From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 1 00:29:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA18285; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:29:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12368; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA03337; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:28:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA24608; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:24:36 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:19:51 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Sender: "Gil M. Nissley" Reply-To: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: other helmet deals To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <01bd4483$1c73d640$ab4b440c@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Sat, 28 Feb 1998, kevin thomas wrote: > Of course, the reason the RF700 is so cheap is 'cause it's discontinued, and > has been for a while. They're just about gone from the dealers. > The Shoei X8 is also discontinued. Cycle Accessory Discounters in > Gaithersburg has them for $195. That's an older helmet design than the > RF700, so I don't know if the X8 is much better, but it used to be the top > of the line, whereas the RF was mid-line. I saw the new models at Battley's the first day they got them in(I was there getting the Buell worked on :-P).About the only differences I could see were slightly different padding and a slight change to the vents. Personally,if I were looking for a new lid,I'd save the money and try to find a leftover RF7 or X8. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 1 01:32:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA18681; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA12608; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA04032; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-7.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.48]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA10786 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:32:20 -0500 Message-ID: <036c01bd44dc$014a91c0$3010b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Virtuality creeps on Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:33:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 As the real world fades -- (from the Post's Dr. Gridlock) "In England, a man ran a red light, and a police camera took a picture of his car in the intersection. The police sent the man a citation, along with the picture of his car. The man wrote out a check, took a picture of it and sent the photograph of the check to police. The police, not without humor, sent back a photograph of a pair of handcuffs. The man paid the fine promptly." With a cc number? Bill Swanson / DC EN500 LTD Join the AMA. Join the AMA. Join the AMA. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 1 10:44:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21282; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15053; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08451; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:44:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15595 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:44:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29078 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:44:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803011544.KAA29078@shell.clark.net> Subject: Saturday ride report To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:44:15 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, Saturday morning four of us woke up, looked at the overcast skies, listened to the conflicting weather reports, then decided to look mother nature in the face and say "HA!" (Except for about one minute of sprinkles, there was no rain all day) The three hardy riders who put their faith in me to lead them were: Tom Mersch Don Wu Sean (sorry, forgot your last name) We met in Oxon Hill at about 10:30 and left 11:00 sharp. The first set of roads went fine, but then after turning on Bryan's Point Road, I learned that the road I planned on turning onto was a private and dirt road. Oh well, U-turn and figure out another way to get there. After that we stopped for gas, and Sean needed a new bolt for his licence plate. The previous roads were bumpy and he lost one. Good thing he had it replaced then, cuz the next road was VERY bumpy. When we turned on 224, I had the guys spread out, cuz I wanted them to have their space. Don and Sean wound up bunched together, but I managed to hang back and enjoy. We met at the end of the road and swap bench racing stories about the road we just finished. (100 mph? Nah, get outta here!) But we all did agree it was a great road to ride. After that we rode into La Plata for some Bar-b-que. I asked the folks if they wanted to continue on a bit, or head back. They were all in a good mood, so we continued on. We went pass Budd's Creek. I resisted the tempation to turn in and run a couple of laps around the track. I watched as the guys all refueled. I love the 7.5 gal tank on the Concours!! We then ran a loop around and back to La Plata. >From there we decided to take 301 North, through Waldorf (the only traffic we really hit), then split up onto Rt 5, 495, and other parts. The ride was about 150 miles by the end. Hope the other three enjoyed it as much as I did. Louis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Caplan | DoD #1754 AMA #269779 | www.clark.net/pub/louis/cycle.htm Alexandria, VA | COG #2894 | Entrant #19, Capitol 1000 louis@XXXXXX | '98 Kawasaki Concours | Mean Green Scream Machine From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 1 13:10:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA22528; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:10:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA16079; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:09:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10136; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA27096 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:09:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv7-17.ix.netcom.com(205.184.22.145) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma027080; Sun Mar 1 12:08:53 1998 Message-ID: <34F9B39C.16C1@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 11:14:36 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Some oipinions on Bikes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If there are any list members who have, or have had, either of the following bikes, I would be interested in hearing about your experiences with them. any problems good/bad points etc. Also in particular, any problems/costs after the unfortunate but usually inevitable tip-overs. The first is a 1996 Honda CBR1000 leftover, the other is a Honda PC800. found both for a good price, and am planning on adding to my stable this summer. (I have a promotion coming, so I figure the pay raise will make up the payments.) I had thought about a Buell S3T or a new Duc ST2 but the money for that much isnt going to be there. On the other hand these two, and a couple others , like the Honda VTR 1000 are in the ballpark. I have talked before about the Buell M2 Cyclone, the other interesting bikes I have looked at were the Honda CBR600 and a Ninja ZX6( not the 6R). But the deals on the others seem a lot better, especially for a bike that will spend a llot of time droning down the Dulles Greenway at 75-80 ;) Had a great day riding Friday, first day off in a while that it didnt pour down all day. Only hit one short shower runnning up to PA, and western MD stopping at the various bike shops. Looks like there are still some deals to be made. I did not realize that some of the manufacturers were still having trouble moving leftovers. I like that ;). means theres hope for me yet. I just sold my spare bike to Dale, and now Im back into the have to get a second bike mode. Thank god theres no rush though. Sporty has been a model of reliability and good gads mileage to boot so far. Well thanx for the indulgence. Ride Safe. -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 1 15:50:48 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA24686; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:50:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA17477; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:50:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12762; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA19555 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:49:53 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803012049.OAA19555@dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com> Received: from wbg-va1-14.ix.netcom.com(205.184.195.46) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma019549; Sun Mar 1 14:49:33 1998 Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 15:53:01 -0400 From: 12dwkaiser34@XXXXXX (David & Michele Kaiser) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [Fwd: FS: Yamaha Motocycle - VG Cond/CHEAP!] from dc.forsale.misc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 Thought this might interest somebody: > Path: ix.netcom.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.intern etmci.com!198.82.160.249!news.vt.edu!solaris.cc.vt.edu!not-for-mail > From: Raj Tirbany > Newsgroups: dc.forsale.misc > Subject: [Fwd: FS: Yamaha Motocycle - VG Cond/CHEAP!] > Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 01:47:50 -0500 > Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia > Lines: 42 > Message-ID: <34F90496.1B7650FD@XXXXXX> > Reply-To: kuma@XXXXXX > NNTP-Posting-Host: as5200-8.sl047.cns.vt.edu > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D7C98AADC019E50194C47370" > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) > Xref: ix.netcom.com dc.forsale.misc:22804 > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------D7C98AADC019E50194C47370 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > --------------D7C98AADC019E50194C47370 > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > Message-ID: <34F900A3.515CDE8@XXXXXX> > Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 01:31:00 -0500 > From: Raj Tirbany > Reply-To: kuma@XXXXXX > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Newsgroups: vatech.forsale > Subject: FS: Yamaha Motocycle - VG Cond/CHEAP! > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I have a 1983 Yamaha Virago I'm thinking about selling. Its garaged in > Richmond right now, but I'll be bringing it back to town once the > weather warms up (some time in march). Its black, has about 10k on > engine, new brakes, everything is in near perfect condition, except it > needs new tires (a pair of decent Dunlops will run about $120 this time > of > year). brand new exhaust system. It has a shaft drive which means no > chain to fuss with, turn signals. Its been well cared for and the > service on it has a lifetime guarantee by a Jim Motorcycle shop (just > outside of BBurg) . A great starter bike w/helmet. I'm asking $1900. > Please call 951-3273 if interested. Serious inquiries only. > Raj > > > > > > --------------D7C98AADC019E50194C47370-- -- -------Remove the numbers from my address to mail me-------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 10:53:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05906; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:53:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04481; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA.COM by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA00108; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Mar 1998 10:44:56 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 10:51:57 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Saturday Ride Report Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline RE: Saturday Ride Report Had a good time on Saturday's ride into southern Maryland. I was glad Louis, Don and Tom packed their rainsuits to keep the rain at bay, because I was just relying on the power of positive thinking. We had barbeque, some sun and scenic roads through the swamps off of the Potomac. Don and I ended up together on 224 after we slowed to pass locals engaged in some interesting roadside activities. We rode through a family picture where dad had the camera on the left side of the road while mom and child posed on the right. "Excuse us, good people!" Thanks for taking us, Louis! Sean Sullivan 95 F3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ride was about 150 miles by the end. Hope the other three enjoyed it as much as I did. Louis <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 13:38:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA08962; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:38:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09855; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:36:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA06418; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.77.68]) by mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA21452 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:36:11 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Perry D Coleman? Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:32:49 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4609$9a2e0880$444d440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Perry-- Please contact me. Thanks Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 16:33:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA11893; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:33:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13260; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:32:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13425; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22418 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:32:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14933 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:32:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803022132.QAA14933@shell.clark.net> Subject: Map of Blue Ridge Parkway To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:32:10 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm toying with the idea of riding the Blue Ridge Parkway from Skyline drive, all the way down to the end for a vacation this summer. I remember that there was some company that offered a map especially geared to motorcyclists for going down. Of course now that I'm looking for it, I can't find mention of it it anywhere. Does anyone know of such a map? Or any map that is good for a trip down the BRP? Thanks, Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 17:34:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA13053; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:34:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA14789; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:34:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA15817; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:34:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id RAA06185 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:33:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA24098 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:33:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980302223331.UBCU27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:33:31 -0600 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 17:30 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: Something Fun to think about.... X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980302223331.UBCU27160@[166.41.242.141]> ....on another dreary Monday. Damn El Nino! Ride to Deals Gap, TN! Let's plan on this ride for Memorial Day weekend. Memorial Day is observed on May 25th, which gives us a 3-day weekend to goof around on some very fine roads! I was thinking we could ride as a group as far south as possible on Thursday afternoon with a destination to Waynesboro, VA or further, where we could camp for the evening. Waynesboro is where the Blue Ridge Parkway (BRP) and the Skyline Drive meet. According to Map-n-Go 3.0, the quickest route to Waynesboro is 133 miles (out of Pentagon City) and 2:42 hours. With stops and setting up camp, expect 4 hours total. This would be a great starting point to get to TN by Friday evening. Some information: The BRP is 470 miles long at 45mph. That's 10.44 hours of riding W/O stopping. And your still not at Deals Gap yet. That's another 55 miles. Some options: Since the lower half of the BRP should NOT be rushed (especially if you've never done it) we should expect some serious delay in the above calculation for time. So, why not just ride as far south as Linville Falls, NC (right at the famous route 181, the namesake of Draggin Jeans). That cuts back to a 7.17 for a total of 323 miles. Again with stops for gas and lunch and scenic overlooks expect Friday to last about 12-15 hours on the road. From Linville Falls, it is a mere 202 miles to deals gap, via the BRP to rt28 west. But hey, since we're at 181, why not ride that sucker down and then up again. Serious willy factor here folks, and it only adds another 50-60 miles to the day. We would be in Deals Gap late afternoon on Saturday. Set up camp and pretty much have all day Sunday to explore some truly intense twisty turny roads. Finally, Ride back home Monday (an all day ride). Let's start some dialogue on this. Any thoughts? Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 17:47:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA13196; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA15003; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA16161; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:46:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id RAA11406 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA03048 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.32.84.59]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980302215251.BCSU31552@XXXXXX> for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:52:53 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:51:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD45FB.714B25A0.linda.tanner@mci.com> From: Linda Tanner To: "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Map of Blue Ridge Parkway Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:51:24 -0500 Organization: MCI Telecommunications X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a one long page map (front and back) of just the BRP that I got from AAA. It's pretty cool. Shows the camp sites and such. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze -----Original Message----- From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, March 02, 1998 4:32 PM To: DC-Cycles List Subject: Map of Blue Ridge Parkway I'm toying with the idea of riding the Blue Ridge Parkway from Skyline drive, all the way down to the end for a vacation this summer. I remember that there was some company that offered a map especially geared to motorcyclists for going down. Of course now that I'm looking for it, I can't find mention of it it anywhere. Does anyone know of such a map? Or any map that is good for a trip down the BRP? Thanks, Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 18:26:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA13662; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:26:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA15359; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA.COM by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA17150; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:18:28 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:25:32 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Something Fun to Think About Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Re: Something Fun to Think About Road trip! A ride to Deals Gap sounds like the perfect way to spend a Memorial Day weekend. I'll bring the marshmallows. You have patched up relations with law enforcement between here and Tennessee, haven't you Todd? Sean 95 F3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start some dialogue on this. Any thoughts? Todd <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 18:52:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA13933; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:52:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA15572; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:51:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA17897; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from my-workstation (client196-127-113.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.113]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id SAA09298; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:50:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980302184816.0098acb0@wingate> X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:48:16 -0500 To: Todd Peer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... In-Reply-To: <19980302223331.UBCU27160@[166.41.242.141]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey Todd and DC folks, I'm not officially joining the ride, but my local riding buddies and I take this trip (BRP, not Deal's) each year, and we're going Fri-Tues over Mem. Day weekend this year. I believe our plans are to head for the Dragon this time. Our usual first day, and we often don't get going real early (doh!) is to head as far south as Roanoke. Usually we meet some friends there who ride up from Atlanta, as a sort-of midpoint. It's very reachable even if you get a late start (heck, we've got an extra 40 miles from here), and you'll save yourself roughly 90 miles getting going the next day. Food and lodging is plentiful in the area, whether you choose to hit civilization or skirt around the fringes. Just some helpful thoughts. There's a pretty good chance we'll all run into each other anyway... MET At 05:30 PM 3/2/98 -0500, you wrote: >....on another dreary Monday. Damn El Nino! > >Ride to Deals Gap, TN! > >Let's plan on this ride for Memorial Day weekend. Memorial Day is >observed on May 25th, which gives us a 3-day weekend to goof around >on some very fine roads! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 19:57:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA14705; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA17175; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:56:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA19431; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:56:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-112-112.s112.tnt4.ann.erols.com [207.172.112.112]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18404 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:56:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FB5569.91CA52D9@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 19:57:13 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Map of Blue Ridge Parkway References: <01BD45FB.714B25A0.linda.tanner@mci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think Dale Coyner's book is the one your thinking of??? I'm going by memory here too, so I may not even have the correct author... The book I recall hearing mention of had several of the various routes through the mountains. Never seen it, but I heard it was a very good book. CT > I remember > that there was some company that offered a map especially geared to > motorcyclists for going down. Of course now that I'm looking for it, > I can't find mention of it it anywhere. Does anyone know of such a map? > Or any map that is good for a trip down the BRP? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 20:12:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA14990; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA18351; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA19888; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:12:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-185.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.185]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA31061 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:16:54 -0500 Message-ID: <34FB58CA.E24C4DA5@illuminet.net> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 20:11:38 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... References: <19980302223331.UBCU27160@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been discussing this with Horkster, and I'd like to do this as a SaddleSore 1000 ride. Is anyone is interested in leaving early Sunday morning, riding the slab to Deals Gap, making one (or three) passes at the Dragon, then coming home on the slab on the other side of the mountains. Since I've already done a few 1000 mile days, I'd go along as the official witness and provide extra forms for anyone who needs it. I'd like to run the Dragon 3 times through, others can run it once and nap during the second round trip. We should plan on doing this in about 20 hours. By doing this on Sunday when the rest of DC cycles is there, it allows us to meet everyone and get a much needed boost at the halfway point. Leon. Todd Peer wrote: > ....on another dreary Monday. Damn El Nino! > > Ride to Deals Gap, TN! > > Let's plan on this ride for Memorial Day weekend. Memorial Day is > observed on May 25th, which gives us a 3-day weekend to goof around > on some very fine roads! > > I was thinking we could ride as a group as far south as possible > on Thursday afternoon with a destination to Waynesboro, VA or further, > where we could camp for the evening. > > Waynesboro is where the Blue Ridge Parkway (BRP) and the Skyline Drive > meet. According to Map-n-Go 3.0, the quickest route to Waynesboro is > 133 miles (out of Pentagon City) and 2:42 hours. With stops and setting > up camp, expect 4 hours total. This would be a great starting point > to get to TN by Friday evening. > > Some information: > > The BRP is 470 miles long at 45mph. That's 10.44 hours of riding > W/O stopping. And your still not at Deals Gap yet. That's another > 55 miles. > > Some options: > > Since the lower half of the BRP should NOT be rushed (especially > if you've never done it) we should expect some serious delay in the > above calculation for time. So, why not just ride as far south as > Linville Falls, NC (right at the famous route 181, the namesake of > Draggin Jeans). That cuts back to a 7.17 for a total of 323 miles. > Again with stops for gas and lunch and scenic overlooks expect Friday > to last about 12-15 hours on the road. > > From Linville Falls, it is a mere 202 miles to deals gap, via the > BRP to rt28 west. But hey, since we're at 181, why not ride that sucker > down and then up again. Serious willy factor here folks, and it only > adds another 50-60 miles to the day. We would be in Deals Gap late > afternoon on Saturday. Set up camp and pretty much have all day Sunday > to explore some truly intense twisty turny roads. > > Finally, Ride back home Monday (an all day ride). > > Let's start some dialogue on this. Any thoughts? > > Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 20:26:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA15129; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA18664; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:26:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA20153; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:26:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA11307; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:26:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv1-02.ix.netcom.com(205.184.22.34) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma011210; Mon Mar 2 19:25:24 1998 Message-ID: <34FB4540.76EC@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 15:48:16 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" Subject: Moto Journeys through the Appalachians was Map of Blue Ridge Parkway References: <01BD45FB.714B25A0.linda.tanner@mci.com> <34FB5569.91CA52D9@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) wrote: > > I think Dale Coyner's book is the one your thinking of??? I'm going by > memory here too, so I may not even have the correct author... > The book I recall hearing mention of had several of the various routes > through the mountains. Never seen it, but I heard it was a very good > book. Hey guys, I have Dale Coyners Book, Its called 'Motorcycle Journeys Through the Appalachians' Its available through WhitehorsePress and probably elsewhere. The ISBN # is 1-884313-02-7. If you dont get the WhiteHorse press catalog, you should anyway, it makes great reading in its own right and you can get a copy or order the book from http://www.WhitehorsePress.com. Anyway the book covers routes and rides from PA through MD,VA,WV,and NC. I have used the PA,WV,VA and MD sections extensively and have enjoyed it very much. Has made for some great reading over this El-Nino winter also. Anyway Ride safe. -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 20:28:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA15162; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA18678; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:28:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA20192; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com ([209.49.109.130]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA17481; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:28:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980302202919.0069fb2c@pop.mindspring.com> Received: from [172.16.4.56] by firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com via smtpd (for ftp.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) with SMTP; 3 Mar 1998 01:27:46 UT X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 20:29:19 -0500 To: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: Map of Blue Ridge Parkway Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <34FB5569.91CA52D9@geocities.com> References: <01BD45FB.714B25A0.linda.tanner@mci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:57 PM 3/2/98 -0500, Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) wrote: >I think Dale Coyner's book is the one your thinking of??? Never seen it, but I heard it was a very good >book. >CT > I have a link to Dale's book and website, which cover the Appalachians, as well as a link to the National Park Service's BRP website. AAA has a map of the BRP. There is another one available from Whitehorse Press (http://www.whitehorsepress.com) which is so-so. If you contact the BRP association, they send you a very good packet of stuff. I'll probably be riding the whole thing in a week or so, depending on the weather. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 00:24:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA18036; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22605; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:23:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA25120; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.49] (unverified [207.226.128.49]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 00:23:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something Fun to Think About Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 00:23:53 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Sean Sullivan" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > A ride to Deals Gap sounds like the perfect way to spend a Memorial Day >weekend. I'll >bring the marshmallows. You have patched up relations with law enforcement >between >here and Tennessee, haven't you Todd? Nah, it's the redneck cops in NC that you gotta look out for:) -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 00:24:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA18035; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22609; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:24:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA25128; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:24:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.49] (unverified [207.226.128.49]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 00:23:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 00:24:00 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Todd Peer" , "dc-cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Let's start some dialogue on this. Any thoughts? Yeah, what's the traffic like on or around Memorial Day? I think I could do it, but the GF might have a problem with that much time in the saddle:) Depending on when my sister has class this summer, I might take off for High Point Sunday night or Monday morning. How did the cruise control install go this weekend? Thinking about a Throttlemeister myself. ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 07:14:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA21017; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA25725; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA00733; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA05191 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:14:08 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:14:08 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'Todd Peer'" , "'dc-cycles'" Subject: RE: Something Fun to think about.... Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:15:31 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 14 TEXT I picked up Skyline Drive last September when I was going down to Radford to see my son. I was going to go down on backroads, but when I crossed over the ridge on VA211, I decided to take Skyline. Mid week, no cages, ran 10-15 over with no problems (electronic countermeasures active). Only came up on one cage, and that was in a passing zone (miracle of miracles). Nice ride, but allow extra time Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 08:03:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA21399; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA25911; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:03:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA01328; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:03:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA24326 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:05:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:05:11 -0500 (EST) From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 03/02/98 In-Reply-To: <199803030000.TAA15660@tove.cs.umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Re: Deal's gap maps, there are a couple. Someone already mentioned the AAA map, which we used last year (uh, the week after Memorial Day). AAA has lots of great maps. Make sure that you get the VA and NC (and TN) maps also, I'll explain why later. Whitehorse press has a motorcycling the Blue Ridge map which mostly covers western NC, eastern TN. Will help you find Deal's Gap, motorcycle campgrounds, and includes LOTS of great southern NC roads. It is very nice and costs only 4 or 5 dollars. Crossroads of Time, the store/hotel/MC Campground on the NC end of Deal's Gap, has a packet of maps of great motorcycling roads which you can buy. If you have time, check out the Cherohala Skyway. I'll try to get my Memorial Day week to Deal's Gap pictures up with a web page this weekend. I've been lax. I'll warn you, though, it rained and rained and rained. And the fog on the BRP was thicker than peanut butter. Made for interesting pics but not such interesting riding. We ended up on nearby roads more often than on the Parkway and after four days of it headed away from the area on superslab just to get out of the constant rain. And Yes, I the rain goddess, did Deal's Gap in the rain. Have a great time! Julie --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Julie Holm (ENTP)| DoD #1604 AMA#397939 UKMC# 0001 VOC# 4672 holm@XXXXXX | 1985 Virago 700 "Maureen" | I'm home at http://www.ziplink.net/~holm NGG Webmistress | Remember the PINK PAGES are always changing (Just and Armourer | like a Nasty Girlie's mind!) | NGG home page http://www.ziplink.net/~holm/ngg/ngg.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 08:17:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA21593; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA25970; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:17:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA01522; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:17:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A2EC21B022A; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 08:17:35 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980303075259.009e6930@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 07:52:59 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Map of Blue Ridge Parkway In-Reply-To: <199803022132.QAA14933@shell.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:32 PM 3/2/98 -0500, Louis F. Caplan wrote: >I'm toying with the idea of riding the Blue Ridge Parkway from Skyline >drive, all the way down to the end for a vacation this summer. I remember >that there was some company that offered a map especially geared to >motorcyclists for going down. Of course now that I'm looking for it, >I can't find mention of it it anywhere. Does anyone know of such a map? >Or any map that is good for a trip down the BRP? Dale Coyner's book, referred to by others, is probably a good choice. Me, I just use the regular BRPs they give out. It has all the campgrounds, overlooks, etc. In NC you might want to check out the two motorcycle campgrounds - can't think of their names right now. One is about 20 miles off the BRP - but it's still fun. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 09:32:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22778; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:32:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26728; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:32:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03091; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA13487 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA16707 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:31:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980303143150.CCYJ2164@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:31:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 09:31 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: Cruise Control Install/a hectic day X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980303143150.CCYJ2164@[166.41.242.141]> ECC Install....Long, delete now if not interested. I scheduled Saturday to install a new Electronic Cruise Control system on the ST and figured it'd take roughly 5-6 hours of work. Prior to Saturday morning, I cleaned the garage and removed plastic taking some time to finally clean off all that road crud and salt that has adorned the lowers for so long. Part of the plan for Saturday was to help Linda Tanner install some brake pads up front. So I called her and told her to be over by 11am (so I could sleep in :-). "I gotta get the bike inspected, and they close at 12pm!"...Do'h. "Alright then, be here by 10am". Well it turns out, I was up by 9am because this was also the weekend my roomate was moving out. With the noise, who could sleep...sigh. It took about 20 minutes a caliper to replace the pads on Lindas' F3 and then she was gone. She came back later to keep me company and offer a hand. The ECC is comprised of five sub-systems: Cruise Control Switch, Cable interface Unit, Speed Sensor, Computer, and the Vacuum Actuator. It's all tied into a single wiring harness that MCC provides. For my bike, in addition to the plastic removal I needed to remove the fuel cell. That top cover houses the air filter and carbs, not a gas tank. The instructions for installation are just a little better than moderately understandable. I think that they could be improved with better quality pictures of the procedures being described. I found that (having previously read the instructions) reading and re-reading some of the instructions, the intention finally sank in. The hardest part of the install was assembling and tuning the Cable Interface unit. It's a box with two seperate spindles that allow the Vacuum Actuater Cable to take control of the throttle when the ECC is engaged. The VAC uses one spindle and the throttle cable with an extended throttle cable (from the CUI) uses the other spindle. So, you've got three cables running into the CUI. Features: - There is an diagnostic mode to test that the sensor and computer are talking. - Works just like a car ECC. Acquire your desired speed, press SET and the system takes over. Up and Down hills keeps you w/in about 1mph. - Pressing SET while the ECC is engaged bumps your speed up a little. Press and hold and the speed increases steadily. - Hit the brakes, the system dis-engages. Press RESUME and your previously acquired speed is obtained. - While engaged, Pressing RESUME bumps your speed down. Press and hold and the speed decreases steadily. So far, I like. I like alot. This system will come in very handy over this summer, as I plan to put a lot of miles on the ST. Todd +-----------------------------+---------------+ | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | +-----------------------------+---------------+ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 09:36:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22817; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:36:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26786; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:36:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03200; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA15147; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:35:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA30754; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:35:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980303143544.TIIW27632@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:35:44 -0600 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 09:35 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Sean Sullivan CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Something Fun to Think About X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980303143544.TIIW27632@[166.41.242.141]> Sean Sullivan: >Re: Something Fun to Think About > >Road trip! > A ride to Deals Gap sounds like the perfect way to spend a Memorial Day >weekend. I'll >bring the marshmallows. You have patched up relations with law enforcement >between >here and Tennessee, haven't you Todd? > Sean > 95 F3 LEO is happy just to bust you. Patching up my relations with the state is grudgingly accomplished in a monetary way. Touching an exposed nerve here Sean! Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 09:39:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22855; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26838; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:39:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03259; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id PDDNa09366; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:37:55 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <84e11129.34fc15c7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:37:55 EST To: Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/2/98 6:44:21 PM, Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX wrote: <> Is this any kind of trip for newbies whose longest twisty stretch to date has lasted about 10 minutes? :D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 09:43:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22951; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:43:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26964; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:43:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA.COM by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03504; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:43:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 09:36:25 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 09:43:32 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Something Fun Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Re: Something Fun I thought you were okay as long as you weren't caught riding a BMW. :) Sean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nah, it's the redneck cops in NC that you gotta look out for:) -George <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 10:07:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23380; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:07:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27179; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:06:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04062; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:06:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA00397 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:05:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA27364 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980303150548.VLSJ27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:05:48 -0600 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 10:03 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980303150548.VLSJ27160@[166.41.242.141]> For those of you that haven't ridden that many miles on twisty roads, this trip could be a little tiring. The good thing though is that you won't feel tired until the end of the day, because you'll constantly be in awe of the scenary and laughing outloud at all the fun in the corners you're having. Regardless of the headcount we get for this ride, I planned on staying within reasonable speed limits (sometimes 55mph, sometimes 35mph) and just enjoying the ride. Expect close to 1,200 miles total for the weekend...Th, Fr, Sa, Su, Mo We've got until the end of May to get those skills honed. So let's do it. I think Leon was planning on another skill testing day to be combined with the Picnic hosted by Dale and Tracy. Can we have that w/in a couple of weeks of flying south? Todd Marcy wrote: >Is this any kind of trip for newbies whose longest twisty stretch to date has >lasted about 10 minutes? :D > >Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 10:21:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23691; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27323; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04382; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA09031; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:20:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA11330; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980303152054.CTXR2164@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:20:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 10:14 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Chris Norloff CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Subject: Re: Map of Blue Ridge Parkway X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980303152054.CTXR2164@[166.41.242.141]> Try Here: http://www.uscsu.sc.edu/eastoc/brccg.html For the Blue Ridge Cycle CampGround. This URL taken from the EaSToc page for 1997. <<>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 10:24:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23753; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27344; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:24:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04447; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:24:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA09723 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:24:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA06939 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:24:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.32.84.59]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980303152416.CVGE2164@XXXXXX> for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:24:16 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:24:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD468E.82D15860.linda.tanner@mci.com> From: Linda Tanner To: "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Something Fun Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:24:11 -0500 Organization: MCI Telecommunications X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, none of us were riding beemers and we got nailed anyway ;-( LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze -----Original Message----- From: Sean Sullivan [SMTP:SUPERFND@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 9:44 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Something Fun Re: Something Fun I thought you were okay as long as you weren't caught riding a BMW. :) Sean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nah, it's the redneck cops in NC that you gotta look out for:) -George <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 10:54:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24281; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27780; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05429; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:53:34 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.8 3-18-1997)) id 852565BC.005773E0 ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:55:12 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565BC.0056AC29.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:55:08 -0400 Subject: RE: Something Fun Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Well, none of us were riding beemers and we got nailed anyway ;-( LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze Well at least we were able to get out of N.C. and Tenn. without getting any complementary high performance certificates. It wasn't until we got back into the merry old Commonwealth of Virginia that we were given that honor. Thanks to officer Moran . . . or was that officer Moron. Steve Beck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 10:59:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24380; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27903; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:59:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05637; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-112-112.s112.tnt4.ann.erols.com [207.172.112.112]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16089; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:59:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FC28E5.41A67461@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 10:59:33 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re:/a hectic day References: <19980303143150.CCYJ2164@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 20 min per caliper!?!?! What took so long?? Granted the first time I changed mine it took a bit longer, but ever since, I think I've spent a whopping 5 min/caliper on front and slightly longer on the back. Granted, that generally includes only changing the pads, visually inspecting everything, and cleaning the guide pins... Doing a full teardown would take much longer... Collin Todd Peer wrote: > It took about 20 minutes a caliper to replace the pads on Lindas' F3 > and then she was gone. She came back later to keep me company and > offer a hand. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:06:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24483; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:06:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28054; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:06:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA05859; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:06:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA22407; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:05:41 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D480FCA@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:05:59 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I'm FIENDING for a ride since I haven't been on one in a while... Anyone interested if the weather holds up?? - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:07:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24505; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28092; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA05882; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA01427; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:06:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA19377; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:06:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980303160648.TUFT27632@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:06:48 -0600 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:06 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re:/a hectic day X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980303160648.TUFT27632@[166.41.242.141]> Taking into account getting the bike in the garage (had to circumnavigate my roomates moving truck across a swamp (my neigbors hate me))...... F3 calipers have little plugs covering the pad pins. These plugs were torqued by Magilla Gorilla the last time the pads were changed. Had to drive them out...... Took time to explain what was what to Linda, so next time she can do this on her own....... Weren't going for speed, knowing she had time to get to the station.... ......adds up to about 20 minutes per. Maybe it was more like 15. Yea, Yea, yea. Let's have a pad changing contest! Todd Collin blistered me: >20 min per caliper!?!?! What took so long?? Granted the first time I >changed mine it took a bit longer, but ever since, I think I've spent a >whopping 5 min/caliper on front and slightly longer on the back. >Granted, that generally includes only changing the pads, visually >inspecting everything, and cleaning the guide pins... Doing a full >teardown would take much longer... >Collin > >Todd Peer wrote: > >> It took about 20 minutes a caliper to replace the pads on Lindas' F3 >> and then she was gone. She came back later to keep me company and >> offer a hand. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:19:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24766; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28381; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:19:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo23.mail.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06409; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:19:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id LKBBa05360; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:18:27 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <9484f34a.34fc2d56@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:18:27 EST To: jlobrien@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/3/98 11:14:25 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: <> count me in for Sunday ..... Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:22:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24859; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28428; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:21:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06555; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA10439 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA00045 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980303162111.TWBL27632@XXXXXX> for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:11 -0600 Message-ID: <34FC2DF6.8821E34B@mci.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:21:10 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Skills session/Picnic References: <19980303150548.VLSJ27160@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Peer wrote: > > > We've got until the end of May to get those skills honed. So let's > do it. I think Leon was planning on another skill testing day to be > combined with the Picnic hosted by Dale and Tracy. Can we have that > w/in a couple of weeks of flying south? > > Todd > How does the first Saturday in May sound to everyone? (That's May 2nd for the calendar-impaired :-) The DC Cycles Spring Picnic can be held at our house, and if combined with another great skills session hosted by Leon, it promises to be quite the fun-filled day. Dale (the Horkster) PS: Yes, I'll be making more lasagna! PPS: The Deal's Gap long weekend sounds like lots of fun, but I plan on doing the SaddleSore1000 with Leon, PROVIDED OF COURSE THAT MANASSAS HONDA KAWASAKI GETS MY FREAKIN' PARTS IN FOR MY FREAKIN' BIKE BEFORE THE END OF FREAKIN' MAY!!!!!!! It's been a whole week now. I mean really... PPPS: Ahem, Sorry for the above rant. Can you tell I miss my bike? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:26:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24992; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:26:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28738; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:26:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06911; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:26:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA10747; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:25:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA26370; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:25:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980303162519.TWQE27632@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:25:19 -0600 Message-ID: <34FC2EED.BEDC1F34@mci.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:25:17 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" , dc-cycles Subject: Re: pad wars References: <19980303160648.TUFT27632@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wait a couple of months, you guys can race to change the pads on my LTD. Double disks up front, so it will be fair. :-) Dale (the Horkster) Todd Peer wrote: > > Yea, Yea, yea. Let's have a pad changing contest! > > Todd > > Collin blistered me: > >20 min per caliper!?!?! What took so long?? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:34:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25270; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:34:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29125; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:34:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07587; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4698.1501BA50@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:32:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:32:42 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 40 TEXT He's been missing his bike so much - he has even ventured to riding mine - sorry for the picture that must have created for some you - clown on a tricycle....yep ---------- From: Dale Horstman[SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 11:21 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Skills session/Picnic Todd Peer wrote: > > > We've got until the end of May to get those skills honed. So let's > do it. I think Leon was planning on another skill testing day to be > combined with the Picnic hosted by Dale and Tracy. Can we have that > w/in a couple of weeks of flying south? > > Todd > How does the first Saturday in May sound to everyone? (That's May 2nd for the calendar-impaired :-) The DC Cycles Spring Picnic can be held at our house, and if combined with another great skills session hosted by Leon, it promises to be quite the fun-filled day. Dale (the Horkster) PS: Yes, I'll be making more lasagna! PPS: The Deal's Gap long weekend sounds like lots of fun, but I plan on doing the SaddleSore1000 with Leon, PROVIDED OF COURSE THAT MANASSAS HONDA KAWASAKI GETS MY FREAKIN' PARTS IN FOR MY FREAKIN' BIKE BEFORE THE END OF FREAKIN' MAY!!!!!!! It's been a whole week now. I mean really... PPPS: Ahem, Sorry for the above rant. Can you tell I miss my bike? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:36:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25297; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:36:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29176; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:36:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07654; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA10195; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:35:45 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D480FD5@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:36:05 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sounds good to me!! YUM!! lasagna!! Everyone - the lasagna alone makes it worth the trip!! - Jeannette > > > > How does the first Saturday in May sound to everyone? > (That's May 2nd for the calendar-impaired :-) > The DC Cycles Spring Picnic can be held at our house, > and if combined with another great skills session hosted > by Leon, it promises to be quite the fun-filled day. > > Dale (the Horkster) > > PS: Yes, I'll be making more lasagna! > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:53:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25584; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:53:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29574; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08270; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:53:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA27125; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA20106; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:52:26 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA20098; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:52:23 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4681.A8704F20@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:52:12 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:48:25 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 30 TEXT Don't forget that I'm making empandas (spanish meat turnovers) - my specialty! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 8:36 AM >To: 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic > >Sounds good to me!! YUM!! lasagna!! >Everyone - the lasagna alone makes it worth the trip!! > >- Jeannette > >> > >> >> How does the first Saturday in May sound to everyone? >> (That's May 2nd for the calendar-impaired :-) >> The DC Cycles Spring Picnic can be held at our house, >> and if combined with another great skills session hosted >> by Leon, it promises to be quite the fun-filled day. >> >> Dale (the Horkster) >> >> PS: Yes, I'll be making more lasagna! >> >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:57:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25659; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:57:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29615; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08385; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:57:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD469A.B1A8F5B0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:51:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:51:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Being the sucker that I am for Italian food.... I'm a go for that one... I'd even be willing to help cook....and yes... I can cook!!! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 11:36 AM >To: 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic > >Sounds good to me!! YUM!! lasagna!! >Everyone - the lasagna alone makes it worth the trip!! > >- Jeannette > >> > >> >> How does the first Saturday in May sound to everyone? >> (That's May 2nd for the calendar-impaired :-) >> The DC Cycles Spring Picnic can be held at our house, >> and if combined with another great skills session hosted >> by Leon, it promises to be quite the fun-filled day. >> >> Dale (the Horkster) >> >> PS: Yes, I'll be making more lasagna! >> >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 12:12:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25956; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:12:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA29816; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:12:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08882; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:12:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD469C.C634E640@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:06:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Viteri, Ursulina'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:06:17 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can see that my "table muscle" is going to be in dire need of a workout when this picnic is over and done with.... time to get ready now!!! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Viteri, Ursulina [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 11:48 AM >To: 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic > >Don't forget that I'm making empandas (spanish meat turnovers) - my >specialty! > >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 8:36 AM >>To: 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >>Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic >> >>Sounds good to me!! YUM!! lasagna!! >>Everyone - the lasagna alone makes it worth the trip!! >> >>- Jeannette >> >>> > >>> >>> How does the first Saturday in May sound to everyone? >>> (That's May 2nd for the calendar-impaired :-) >>> The DC Cycles Spring Picnic can be held at our house, >>> and if combined with another great skills session hosted >>> by Leon, it promises to be quite the fun-filled day. >>> >>> Dale (the Horkster) >>> >>> PS: Yes, I'll be making more lasagna! >>> >>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 12:30:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26381; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00922; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:30:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA09630; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:30:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id JAA07544; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:29:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id JAA29590; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:29:45 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id JAA29570; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:29:41 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4686.DA0C8EE0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:29:23 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Tom Zell'" , "'Viteri, Ursulina'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:25:24 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 53 TEXT Eat, drink and be merry - that's what I say! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 9:06 AM >To: 'Viteri, Ursulina'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic > >I can see that my "table muscle" is going to be in dire need of a >workout when this picnic is over and done with.... time to get ready >now!!! > >-Tom > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Viteri, Ursulina [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 11:48 AM >>To: 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >>Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic >> >>Don't forget that I'm making empandas (spanish meat turnovers) - my >>specialty! >> >>Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >>202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>>Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 8:36 AM >>>To: 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >>>Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic >>> >>>Sounds good to me!! YUM!! lasagna!! >>>Everyone - the lasagna alone makes it worth the trip!! >>> >>>- Jeannette >>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> How does the first Saturday in May sound to everyone? >>>> (That's May 2nd for the calendar-impaired :-) >>>> The DC Cycles Spring Picnic can be held at our house, >>>> and if combined with another great skills session hosted >>>> by Leon, it promises to be quite the fun-filled day. >>>> >>>> Dale (the Horkster) >>>> >>>> PS: Yes, I'll be making more lasagna! >>>> >>>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 13:20:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA27286; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA01952; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA11563; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD46A6.C85E9880@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:17:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: NVCC - Annadale Campus Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:17:56 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 17 TEXT Have any of you taken any courses at the Annadale Campus and rode your bike to get there? Getting the run around from them as to where I can park my bike and where to put the rear-view mirror hanger permit they gave me or if I even need the damn thing. I've called Parking - they say we don't issue those, call Extended Learning, they say call Parking. When I tell them that Parking told me to call them, they said they will have Parking call me. Found a phone number on the hanger, called it - they say call Parking. I'm wondering why put your phone number on the hanger if I have to call Parking - she said there is parking for Motocycles between buildings CF and CC. Just wanted to know if this is true plus anyone else I should be calling instead of Parking. Tracy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 13:36:02 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA27716; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:36:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02177; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:35:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12386; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:35:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id NAA08214; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:35:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:34:41 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D480FE0@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:34:59 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Looks like we're having a majority voting for Sunday. Ok, any more "experienced" riders want to volunteer to lead? Speaking for myself, I am just not up to that quite yet!! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 11:18 AM > To: jlobrien@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? > > > In a message dated 3/3/98 11:14:25 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: > > < Anyone interested if the weather holds up?? > >> > > count me in for Sunday ..... > > Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 13:42:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA27879; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:42:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02247; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:41:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12671; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:41:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id QRSTa04960; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:40:47 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:40:47 EST To: zell@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: Skills session/Picnic Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/3/98 12:05:27 PM, zell@XXXXXX wrote: <> I missed something here ...... PICNIC? what PICNIC? Marcy who LOVES LOVES LOVES Italian food................ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 15:46:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA00411; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:46:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04637; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA17255; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.75.13]) by mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA3057; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:45:36 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:42:15 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd46e4$d9a37d20$0d4b440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 J- I'm on the way out to pick up the VFR at Cycles USA! Hell YES I want to go for a ride!!! He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 15:48:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA00434; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:48:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04684; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:47:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA17322; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id PAA10319; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:46:46 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D480FF7@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'kevin thomas'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:47:06 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Congrats, Kevin!!! Looks like Curtis is offering to be our leader. Here's details: Ask Marcy if she would like to take the same route that we took a few >> weeks ago, down through Lorton, Clifton, Would take a few hours to >> complete. Marcy went last time so she can tell you how it was.These >> are >> the only roads that I know well. > -----Original Message----- > From: kevin thomas [SMTP:klthomas@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 3:42 PM > To: O'Brien, Jeannette; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? > > J- > > I'm on the way out to pick up the VFR at Cycles USA! Hell YES I want > to go > for a ride!!! > > > He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing > it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 16:04:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01105; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA05048; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:04:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA18146; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:04:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA05127; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:11:16 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'kevin thomas'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:05:21 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ever heard of the blind leading the blind, should be fun. >---------- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 3:47 PM >To: 'kevin thomas'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? > >Congrats, Kevin!!! Looks like Curtis is offering to be our leader. >Here's details: > > Ask Marcy if she would like to take the same route that we took a few >>> weeks ago, down through Lorton, Clifton, Would take a few hours to >>> complete. Marcy went last time so she can tell you how it was.These >>> are >>> the only roads that I know well. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: kevin thomas [SMTP:klthomas@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 3:42 PM >> To: O'Brien, Jeannette; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? >> >> J- >> >> I'm on the way out to pick up the VFR at Cycles USA! Hell YES I want >> to go >> for a ride!!! >> >> >> He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing >> it. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 16:19:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01360; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:19:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA05968; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:19:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA18792; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:19:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id QAA24060; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:18:29 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D480FFF@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:18:48 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Ok, here's the scoop (via Curtis) for this Sunday: (pray for no rain!!) - Jeannette Let's meet at around 10:30-leave at 11:00. We can meet at McDonalds or the CVS we met at last time. Across from Beacon Mall. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 16:28:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01524; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:28:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA06159; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA19193; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA14725 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:27:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FCA0B5.96B@mnsinc.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 16:30:45 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: No Digest for 3-2-98 ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey y'all, I had server problems yesterday - in any event I did not receive my normal digest delivery for yesterday (03.02.98). I'd be grateful if some kind soul would forward that on to me - unless you guys&gals were (strangely) silent yesterday ;) TIA, JK -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" - K. Marx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 16:42:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01781; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:42:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA06497; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA19788; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:42:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id QAA22101; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma022038; Tue, 3 Mar 98 16:41:46 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:41:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'John C. Kozyn'" , dc-cycles Subject: RE: No Digest for 3-2-98 ? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:41:52 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain I get the blow by blow (each message directly) and got nothing at all yesterday. Maybe everyone just had nothing to say... John Whiteside jwhiteside@XXXXXX > -----Original Message----- > From: John C. Kozyn [SMTP:jckozyn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 7:31 PM > To: dc-cycles > Subject: No Digest for 3-2-98 ? > > Hey y'all, > > I had server problems yesterday - in any event I did not receive my > normal digest delivery for yesterday (03.02.98). I'd be grateful if > some > kind soul would forward that on to me - unless you guys&gals were > (strangely) silent yesterday ;) > > TIA, > > JK > -- > John Kozyn > "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" - K. Marx > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 17:10:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA02315; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:10:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA07170; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:10:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA20985; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:10:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23858 invoked by alias); 3 Mar 1998 22:10:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 23840 invoked from network); 3 Mar 1998 22:10:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jywon.imi?dc) (12.3.130.190) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 1998 22:10:26 -0000 Message-ID: <004a01bd46f1$28b73580$be82030c@jywon.imi_dc> Reply-To: "Justin Won" From: "Justin Won" To: Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:09:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Awesome, dude! Would that be the VFR800, perchance? Justin -----Original Message----- From: kevin thomas To: O'Brien, Jeannette ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 2:57 PM Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? >J- > >I'm on the way out to pick up the VFR at Cycles USA! Hell YES I want to go >for a ride!!! > > >He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 17:22:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA02481; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA07597; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA21336; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id QAA06313 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:21:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA07425 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:21:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.32.84.59]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980303222148.IGLO2164@XXXXXX> for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:21:48 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:21:41 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD46C8.D4E31FA0.linda.tanner@mci.com> From: Linda Tanner To: "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: FW: No Digest for 3-2-98 ? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:21:40 -0500 Organization: MCI Telecommunications X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yesterday WAS very slow (we lost the will to argue?? ;-), but I did get 9 messages dated 3/2. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 17:32:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA02706; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:32:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA07777; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA21613; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id RAA20204; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:39:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:39:38 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: Jinn Sinn cc: jlobrien@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? In-Reply-To: <9484f34a.34fc2d56@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Grumble, grumble....now I have two non-functional bikes! The GPz still is tireless and my new GS650 flows fuel from the carb/airbox vents until I clean the carbs up! -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 18:06:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03270; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:06:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA08087; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:05:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA22589; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:05:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA16358 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:46:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:46:11 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: Salvation? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, I guess having connections is a god thing. I received a call this afternoon from one of them informing me he had someone approcah him with a running, non-titleable VF500 (no clue on the year). The guy's looking to get rid of it (he wanted to part it, but I'm willing to take the whole thing off his hands). So, I'm looking at a complete, non-titled bike for a couple of hundred dollars.. I can actually afford that. Now, if it only has the few parts I've already sold from mine.. ;) Or, I can always just Raid Jeannettes bike.. oh, just kidding.. :) Well, just a hint of good news amongst the receint trend of bad.. News from the RS world - I finally have all but the engine, and that's just waiting for me to have money. The ONLY thig it needs is a new cylinder, $516, and it'll be a totaly rebuilt bike - old parts, and anything that could wear is new. Looking for any kind of sponsors - I just want someone to GIVE ME DA MONEY to ride a motorcycle.. :P Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 18:17:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03546; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:17:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA08174; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA23038; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-185.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.185]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA01488; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:22:01 -0500 Message-ID: <34FC8F4A.676B6EBE@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 18:16:27 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jinn Sinn CC: Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... References: <84e11129.34fc15c7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes. Todd's suggestion for Deal's Gap is ideal for newer riders. If you've gone more than 150 miles in a day, and have ridden your bike with camping gear for a couple of hours, you can do this trip. Doing it my way, (1000 miles in one day) I'd advise having done more than 400 miles in a day. In either case, the important thing to remember is don't ride beyond your limits. Watch yourself, if you see you're doing dumb things, tell somebody. I don't think anyone would complain about taking an extra stop or two rather than see anyone get hurt. Leon. Jinn Sinn wrote: > In a message dated 3/2/98 6:44:21 PM, Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX wrote: > > < > Todd>> > > Is this any kind of trip for newbies whose longest twisty stretch to date has > lasted about 10 minutes? :D > > Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 20:09:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA05169; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA08883; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:09:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA25697; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:09:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id UAA15629; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:16:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:16:15 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: Brian McCoy cc: DC-Cycles list Subject: Re: Salvation? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You might want to run the V.I.N numbers by the police first. --garcia On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Brian McCoy wrote: > Well, > > I guess having connections is a god thing. I received a call this > afternoon from one of them informing me he had someone approcah him with a > running, non-titleable VF500 (no clue on the year). The guy's looking to > get rid of it (he wanted to part it, but I'm willing to take the whole > thing off his hands). So, I'm looking at a complete, non-titled bike for > a couple of hundred dollars.. I can actually afford that. Now, if it only ...snip From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 20:40:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA05508; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA09417; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA26238; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (port27.annex2.radix.net [209.48.226.27]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA26406 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:40:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FCDAB0.5B5D@radix.net> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 20:38:08 -0800 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Salvation? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have many police officer confidants, if you care to check with anonymity. RDW >Garcia Oliver wrote: > > You might want to run the V.I.N numbers by the police first. > > --garcia > > On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Brian McCoy wrote: > . I received a call this afternoon from one of them informing me he had someone approcah him with a running, non-titleable VF500 (no clue on the year). From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 20:50:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA05600; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA09507; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA26373; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from rdt.erols.com (207-172-35-209.s209.tnt9.brd.erols.com [207.172.35.209]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07300; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:50:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803040150.UAA07300@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Roy D. Turner" To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:48:51 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Saturday would be good for me. Roy D. Turner, Esq. ---------- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Ride This Weekend?? > Date: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 11:05 AM > > I'm FIENDING for a ride since I haven't been on one in a while... > Anyone interested if the weather holds up?? > > - Jeannette > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 21:24:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA06036; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:24:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA11083; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA27186; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:24:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.75.151]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA10713 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:23:44 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: picking up the VFR Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:20:22 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4714$15ff1ac0$974b440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Y'all-- I caused some confusion, I'm afraid. I was picking up the same VFR I dropped off there for a new voltage regulator last week. It's been not running for 2 months. When I win the lottery, I'll buy a VFR 800. Meanwhile, I'm saving for a house. Getting married, got new priorities. See ya Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 23:40:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA07965; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15563; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00036; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.58] (unverified [207.226.128.58]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:39:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something Fun Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 23:40:11 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Sean Sullivan" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >I thought you were okay as long as you weren't caught riding a BMW. :) > Sean > >>>>> >Nah, it's the redneck cops in NC that you gotta look out for:) Your point? :) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 23:40:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA07964; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15547; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:39:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00028; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:39:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.58] (unverified [207.226.128.58]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:39:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 23:40:02 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Leon Begeman" , "Jinn Sinn" cc: , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >In either case, the important thing to remember is don't ride beyond your >limits. Watch yourself, if you see you're doing dumb things, tell >somebody. I >don't think anyone would complain about taking an extra stop or two rather >than >see anyone get hurt. Not bad advice. While I haven't done a whole lot of long distance riding, if I can find the time to go (I'll try to remember to put in the vacation request now) I might be able to ride in the back and wait for stragglers. If I go, I'll be riding two-up, so riding more conservatively anyway. And, as Todd pointed out, due to LEOs and the scenery, it won't be a super hectic route anyway. ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 23:40:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA07969; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15552; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:39:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00032; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:39:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.58] (unverified [207.226.128.58]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:39:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 23:40:06 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >I'm FIENDING for a ride since I haven't been on one in a while... >Anyone interested if the weather holds up?? Always interested, even if the weather doesn't hold (especially since the new tires have about 300 miles on them (finally)) Will I show? I'm batting .500 now.... ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 00:14:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08915; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16825; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00911; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.31] (unverified [207.226.128.31]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Wed, 04 Mar 1998 00:12:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: picking up the VFR Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 00:13:41 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "kevin thomas" , "dc-cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Meanwhile, I'm saving for a house. Getting married, got new priorities. If you had picked the right girl, I'm sure getting the bike WOULD be the new priority. -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 02:50:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA10299; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA19335; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA02983; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:50:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA03956 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:50:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FD3291.D3F@mnsinc.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 02:53:05 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: FS: Older Duck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From: rick@XXXXXX (rick) > Subject: Ducati MC > > '75 860 GT w/full fairing. Electric start. 900 heads, cams, 40mm Delortos. > Original 32mm delortos, 860 heads, misc jets and needles, other stuff too. Needs > battery and to be timed and tuned. Been kept in garage and not run in quite some > time. > Have a Nice Day! > Rick The usual disclaimers apply... -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" - K. Marx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 07:54:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA12303; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA22191; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:53:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA06072; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:53:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id IAA13748; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:01:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:01:22 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: "Cycles, DC -- DC Cycles" Subject: GS650 Help Request Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, I was able to pull off the carb rack last night (after borrowing an impact driver). I have never worked on Mikuni's before (actually, I've done VERY little carb work at all myself). I got the float bowls off, the gaskets appear to be in good shape, do I need to replace them anyway? Should just dab a tiny bit of glue goo on them and reassemble when the time comes? I pulled the floats out and float needle. Should I pull out the float valve seat? I can't figure out how to do it, it doesn't easily pull out after I removed the hold down screw. Can I pull off the top covers w/o damaging the diaphragms or do you think that I'll have to replace those too if I pull the cover? Thank you...maybe by this weekend, she'll be running! -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 08:31:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA12661; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA22393; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:30:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA06626; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:30:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA09138 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:33:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:33:10 -0500 (EST) From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 03/03/98 In-Reply-To: <199803040000.TAA08424@tove.cs.umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Marcy, you can do the Blue Ridge Parkway, no problem. It's not really twisty, just lots of gentle rolling curves. They give you lots of turning practice without coming so fast you feel overwhelmed. Deal's Gap is another thing. Remember a couple of things. Don't push yourself beyond what you can do. It's only 11 miles, so you can handle it, but let the guys and girls that want to push the envelope through first. That's what I did, and I enjoyed it immensely. After going down the BRP, you'll love Deal's Gap. Julie --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Julie Holm (ENTP)| DoD #1604 AMA#397939 UKMC# 0001 VOC# 4672 holm@XXXXXX | 1985 Virago 700 "Maureen" | I'm home at http://www.ziplink.net/~holm NGG Webmistress | Remember the PINK PAGES are always changing (Just and Armourer | like a Nasty Girlie's mind!) | NGG home page http://www.ziplink.net/~holm/ngg/ngg.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 09:07:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13193; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:07:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22650; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:06:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA07436; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:06:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA02913 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:06:21 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:06:21 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 03/03/98 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:07:43 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 9 TEXT >Marcy, you can do the Blue Ridge Parkway, no problem. It's not really twisty, just lots of gentle rolling curves< Remember, Winnebagos do the road all the time...;-) It's a VERY nice road for a relaxed ride Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 09:24:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13372; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22782; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:23:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA07839; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA17180; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:23:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA14750; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980304142316.YSTA27160@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:23:16 -0600 Message-ID: <34FD63D2.C9C5C381@mci.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 09:23:14 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Morris Berman CC: "Cycles, DC -- DC Cycles" Subject: Re: GS650 Help Request References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Morris Berman asked about carbs: > > I got the float bowls off, > the gaskets appear to be in good shape, do I need to replace them > anyway? Should just dab a tiny bit of glue goo on them and reassemble > when the time comes? I've had good luck re-using the gaskets without any leaks. I would think the glue goo would just screw up the gaskets the next time around, and it might not hold up to gasoline anyway. YMMV. > > I pulled the floats out and float needle. Should I pull out the float > valve seat? I can't figure out how to do it, it doesn't easily pull > out after I removed the hold down screw. Hmm. Not sure what you are saying here. My float valve seat was threaded and hex-sided, you just turned it out with a wrench. Different design, maybe? Can I pull off the top covers w/o > damaging the diaphragms or do you think that I'll have to replace those > too if I pull the cover? If you are referring to the gaskets on the top of the carbs, with the covers that you need to remove when performing a carb synch, I've had good luck reusing these also. > > Thank you...maybe by this weekend, she'll be running! > Good Luck! Dale (the Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:01:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA13948; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:01:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23429; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08759; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (port44.annex4.radix.net [209.48.225.172]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA19945 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:00:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FD964B.75A2@radix.net> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 09:58:35 -0800 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: GS650 Help Request References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> No. <> No. <> Not if the carbs didn't overflow. <> Don't touch them unless you have to. Tearing a diaphram could cost you humdreds of dollars. Richard Wood From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:04:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA14073; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:04:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23512; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09103; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA04778; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:02:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA14451; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:02:55 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA14446; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:02:54 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD473B.857E4750@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:02:40 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Leon Begeman'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Deal's Gap was Something Fun to think about.... Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:59:00 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 48 TEXT Camping gear: I hate to sound like such a novice but what kind of stuff should we be packing for a trip like this? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 3:16 PM >To: Jinn Sinn >Cc: Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... > >Yes. Todd's suggestion for Deal's Gap is ideal for newer riders. If you've >gone >more than 150 miles in a day, and have ridden your bike with camping gear for >a >couple of hours, you can do this trip. > >Doing it my way, (1000 miles in one day) I'd advise having done more than >400 >miles in a day. > >In either case, the important thing to remember is don't ride beyond your >limits. Watch yourself, if you see you're doing dumb things, tell somebody. >I >don't think anyone would complain about taking an extra stop or two rather >than >see anyone get hurt. > >Leon. > >Jinn Sinn wrote: > >> In a message dated 3/2/98 6:44:21 PM, Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX wrote: >> >> <> >> Todd>> >> >> Is this any kind of trip for newbies whose longest twisty stretch to date >>has >> lasted about 10 minutes? :D >> >> Marcy > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:14:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA14288; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24292; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09476; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA06907; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:13:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA16121; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:13:38 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA16116; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:13:37 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD473D.04B6ADE0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:13:23 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:09:43 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 21 TEXT Sounds good! Hope the rain stays away. Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 1:19 PM >To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? > >Ok, here's the scoop (via Curtis) for this Sunday: >(pray for no rain!!) > >- Jeannette > >Let's meet at >around 10:30-leave at 11:00. We can meet at McDonalds or the CVS we met >at last time. Across from Beacon Mall. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:26:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA14632; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:26:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25012; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:25:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10062; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:25:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-218-91.pitb.grid.net [207.205.218.91]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25281 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:25:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980304102708.006b44c8@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 10:27:08 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Motorcycle Camping Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" For those interested, the BMW MOA has been building a motorcycle camping page: http://www.bmwmoa.org/camping/index.htm It's still under construction, but already has some useful info and links. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:27:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA14658; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:27:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25056; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:26:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from sundown.northgrum.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10096; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:26:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from puff.northgrum.com (puff.northgrum.com [157.127.103.139]) by sundown.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id HAA29091 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from xcgca004.northgrum.com ([157.127.103.103]) by puff.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id HAA17563 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:26:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by XCGCA004 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id <1SMZ53YY>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:26:24 -0800 Message-ID: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF50F@xcgva001.grumman.com> From: "Meier, Christopher" To: "'dc-cycles'" Subject: Daytona or Bust? Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:18:14 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Hi All, Just a quick note to say that last night I got back from a accident, mechanical failure and ticket free 1915 mile trip from DC to Daytona and back. I will try to muster a more detailed trip report after I get this mess that developed at work while I was gone back under control. :-( --chris PS ... It should make the trip to Deal's seem downright short. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Christopher A. Meier meierch@XXXXXX Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA 1994 RF900R AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:42:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15146; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:42:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25681; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10928; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:40:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4759.C2651DB0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:39:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: RE: Deal's Gap was Something Fun to think about.... Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:39:06 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 78 TEXT Since Dale is doing a Butt Blister. Bottom Bruiser, Nad Number or whatever with Leon, that leaves me with the kids and we were going camping. We could follow you all out with the car, help with those that don't know how/can't haul their gear by putting some of it in my car. We can camp as well as there as we can anywhere I suppose. We are going to camp in one place the whole weekend use it as a central location to ride from and back, right? Just wanted to know. I'm a Girl Scout - I can pitch a tent in minutes - I cook on a coffee can, etc - Or that's at least what I tell my girls. >From experience with camp grounds on high volume weekends like Memorial Day, Labor Day, shouldn't we look for the camp ground now and make some sort of reservations so that we are left out? Tracy ---------- From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 9:59 AM To: 'Leon Begeman'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: Deal's Gap was Something Fun to think about.... Camping gear: I hate to sound like such a novice but what kind of stuff should we be packing for a trip like this? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 3:16 PM >To: Jinn Sinn >Cc: Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... > >Yes. Todd's suggestion for Deal's Gap is ideal for newer riders. If you've >gone >more than 150 miles in a day, and have ridden your bike with camping gear for >a >couple of hours, you can do this trip. > >Doing it my way, (1000 miles in one day) I'd advise having done more than >400 >miles in a day. > >In either case, the important thing to remember is don't ride beyond your >limits. Watch yourself, if you see you're doing dumb things, tell somebody. >I >don't think anyone would complain about taking an extra stop or two rather >than >see anyone get hurt. > >Leon. > >Jinn Sinn wrote: > >> In a message dated 3/2/98 6:44:21 PM, Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX wrote: >> >> <> >> Todd>> >> >> Is this any kind of trip for newbies whose longest twisty stretch to date >>has >> lasted about 10 minutes? :D >> >> Marcy > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:42:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15151; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:42:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25698; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:41:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10969; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:41:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov ([137.187.221.31]) by dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov (8.8.5/8.7.2) with ESMTP id KAA22379; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:40:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FD76AF.FB14BF53@dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 10:43:43 -0500 From: jay goddard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Meier, Christopher" CC: "'dc-cycles'" Subject: Re: Daytona or Bust? References: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF50F@xcgva001.grumman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You Da Man Meier, Christopher wrote: > Hi All, > > Just a quick note to say that last night I got back from a accident, > mechanical failure and ticket free 1915 mile trip from DC to Daytona and > back. > > I will try to muster a more detailed trip report after I get this mess > that developed at work while I was gone back under control. :-( > > --chris > > PS ... It should make the trip to Deal's seem downright short. :-) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ > Christopher A. Meier > meierch@XXXXXX > Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA > 1994 RF900R AMA #470094 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:57:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15408; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26203; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:56:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11542; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:56:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23178; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:56:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00857; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:56:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803041556.KAA00857@shell.clark.net> Subject: DC-Cycles Ride list Web page To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:56:19 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Ok, here's the scoop (via Curtis) for this Sunday: > (pray for no rain!!) > > - Jeannette > > Let's meet at > around 10:30-leave at 11:00. We can meet at McDonalds or the CVS we met > at last time. Across from Beacon Mall. I'm working on a new web page which will have these ride announcements. This way we can (hopefully) avoid messages for reposting of information. (I.e. post it once on DC-cycles, and I'll put it on the page for future reference) Also there are some people who'd like to ride with us, but aren't on DC-cycles. What I was thinking was it could have the date, meeting time, location (with directions), ride leader(s), approximate route (i.e. major towns we may pass), and approximate time of ride. So for this ride, the date is 3/8, meet at 10:30, depart 11:00. Have you decided on a meeting place? (the drug store across from Beacon Mall is a Rite Aid). Curtis is the ride leader. I'll put this page at: www.clark.net/pub/louis/dc-rides.htm So far I have this ride, and the preliminary information for the two rides to Deal's Gap (Leon's and Todd's). If you don't want your info here, let me know, and I'll remove it. Once a ride is done, I'll delete it to save on cluttering. Also, it will be simple, no flashy graphics or frames, so that those stuck on text shells will be able to access the information. Let me know if this is helpful, or a waste of time. Finally, this is something I just pounded together while trying to avoid doing real work this morning. :-) It's still rough, but feel free to comment. Louis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Caplan | DoD #1754 AMA #269779 | www.clark.net/pub/louis/cycle.htm Alexandria, VA | COG #2894 VCOM | Entrant #19, Capitol 1000 louis@XXXXXX | '98 Kawasaki Concours | Mean Green Scream Machine From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 11:34:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA16104; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26893; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:33:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA12850; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA25143 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA23765 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:33:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980304163318.DYKM4928@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:33:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 11:32 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Subject: Camping to Deal's Gap X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980304163318.DYKM4928@[166.41.242.141]> Since we'll be moving steadily south, setting up a base camp to cover the entire weekend won't work. Once in the Deal's Gap area, a base camp does make sense. For those of you that have never moto-camped, or never been camping at all, it's no big deal. Your basic equipment follows this text. Keep in mind that I ain't no Grizzly Adams and if it's raining out before setting up camp, I'm looking for a cheap motel. If you've never camped, it's a lot of fun to hang out around a fire and bench race while quafing a few cold ones. Very relaxing. Expect to get a little dirty as some campgrounds only offer toilets. Some only offer the woods (we won't be going there). What you'll need: Sleeping Bag Flashlight Matches That's it!!! Remember, your outside and I've already discussed how to handle a rainy evening (motel). But a sleeping bag is a minimum to keep warm. Now, if your like me you might consider bringing some of the following as well: Gear: Tent Sleeping Pad (I use a ThermaRest) Pillow (you can get a blow-up that packs easily) Small first-aid kit (you should always carry one anyway) Rain-Suit Knife xtra Batteries Toilett Paper Bug Deet Clothing: Change(s) of Underwear and Socks T-shirts Jeans Tennis Shoes Light Jacket or Sweater And some saddle bags/panniers/tank bag to carry it all and keep it dry. BTW, I have a set of Chase Harper Saddle bags someone can use. The one with the fastest mail POP gets first dibs. I also have an old Pup-tent and a couple xtra sleeping bags someone can use. Keep in mind, these sleeping bags don't pack down to well (very bulky), but they're comfortable. All you other campers, am I missing anything (necessary items)? Todd +-----------------------------+---------------+ | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | +-----------------------------+---------------+ "I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer." --Homer Simpson From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 12:31:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA17583; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:31:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27442; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:31:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA15660; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:31:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4769.369B5690@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:29:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: FW: Camping to Deal's Gap Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:29:43 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 85 TEXT Well if you all don't mind a cager tagging along for the trip - offer still stands for those that need help in lugging gear - I have a family tent (3 rooms) and a 2 person tent I'll bring regardless - mine gear will be more of the standard. I have list of basic equip that I require the my scouts to bring plus some tips that I found really work when primitive camping that I will forward to the list as well because I know of some that are going that have never camped before. Tracy ---------- From: Todd Peer[SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 11:32 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Camping to Deal's Gap Since we'll be moving steadily south, setting up a base camp to cover the entire weekend won't work. Once in the Deal's Gap area, a base camp does make sense. For those of you that have never moto-camped, or never been camping at all, it's no big deal. Your basic equipment follows this text. Keep in mind that I ain't no Grizzly Adams and if it's raining out before setting up camp, I'm looking for a cheap motel. If you've never camped, it's a lot of fun to hang out around a fire and bench race while quafing a few cold ones. Very relaxing. Expect to get a little dirty as some campgrounds only offer toilets. Some only offer the woods (we won't be going there). What you'll need: Sleeping Bag Flashlight Matches That's it!!! Remember, your outside and I've already discussed how to handle a rainy evening (motel). But a sleeping bag is a minimum to keep warm. Now, if your like me you might consider bringing some of the following as well: Gear: Tent Sleeping Pad (I use a ThermaRest) Pillow (you can get a blow-up that packs easily) Small first-aid kit (you should always carry one anyway) Rain-Suit Knife xtra Batteries Toilett Paper Bug Deet Clothing: Change(s) of Underwear and Socks T-shirts Jeans Tennis Shoes Light Jacket or Sweater And some saddle bags/panniers/tank bag to carry it all and keep it dry. BTW, I have a set of Chase Harper Saddle bags someone can use. The one with the fastest mail POP gets first dibs. I also have an old Pup-tent and a couple xtra sleeping bags someone can use. Keep in mind, these sleeping bags don't pack down to well (very bulky), but they're comfortable. All you other campers, am I missing anything (necessary items)? Todd +-----------------------------+---------------+ | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | +-----------------------------+---------------+ "I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer." --Homer Simpson From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 12:39:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA17713; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:39:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27552; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA15987; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:39:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-60-244.s244.tnt7.brd.erols.com [207.172.60.244]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA26244 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:39:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980304123933.0075fecc@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: cfagan@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 12:39:33 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Arlington Electronic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've actually started emptying my trash folder, and sure enough it bit me.. I need the number for arlington electronic if anyone still has it... _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 12:46:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA17864; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:46:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27674; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:45:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA16371; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:45:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD476A.A0596300@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:39:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Louis F. Caplan'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: DC-Cycles Ride list Web page Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:39:50 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This sounds like a great idea to me!! -Tom '86 VFR700/750F >-----Original Message----- >From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 10:56 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: DC-Cycles Ride list Web page > > >> Ok, here's the scoop (via Curtis) for this Sunday: >> (pray for no rain!!) >> >> - Jeannette >> >> Let's meet at >> around 10:30-leave at 11:00. We can meet at McDonalds or the CVS we met >> at last time. Across from Beacon Mall. > >I'm working on a new web page which will have these ride announcements. >This way we can (hopefully) avoid messages for reposting of information. >(I.e. post it once on DC-cycles, and I'll put it on the page for future >reference) Also there are some people who'd like to ride with us, but >aren't on DC-cycles. What I was thinking was it could have the date, >meeting time, location (with directions), ride leader(s), approximate >route (i.e. major towns we may pass), and approximate time of ride. > >So for this ride, the date is 3/8, meet at 10:30, depart 11:00. Have you >decided on a meeting place? (the drug store across from Beacon Mall >is a Rite Aid). Curtis is the ride leader. > >I'll put this page at: www.clark.net/pub/louis/dc-rides.htm > >So far I have this ride, and the preliminary information for the two >rides to Deal's Gap (Leon's and Todd's). If you don't want your info >here, let me know, and I'll remove it. > >Once a ride is done, I'll delete it to save on cluttering. > >Also, it will be simple, no flashy graphics or frames, so that those stuck >on text shells will be able to access the information. > >Let me know if this is helpful, or a waste of time. > >Finally, this is something I just pounded together while trying to avoid >doing real work this morning. :-) It's still rough, but feel free to >comment. > >Louis > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Louis Caplan | DoD #1754 AMA #269779 | >www.clark.net/pub/louis/cycle.htm >Alexandria, VA | COG #2894 VCOM | Entrant #19, Capitol 1000 >louis@XXXXXX | '98 Kawasaki Concours | Mean Green Scream Machine > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 12:54:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA18051; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27780; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:54:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA16786; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:54:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD476C.66B722C0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:52:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: RE: Camping to Deal's Gap Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:52:32 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 100 TEXT Also, another note - the kids and I won't be tagging along during the day once we reach Deal's Gap. I'd be too jealous. We plan to do "camp" stuff during the day but would like to camp with you all so I can hear the stories first hand. Tracy ---------- From: Horstman, Tracy L @ MAN Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 12:29 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: FW: Camping to Deal's Gap Well if you all don't mind a cager tagging along for the trip - offer still stands for those that need help in lugging gear - I have a family tent (3 rooms) and a 2 person tent I'll bring regardless - mine gear will be more of the standard. I have list of basic equip that I require the my scouts to bring plus some tips that I found really work when primitive camping that I will forward to the list as well because I know of some that are going that have never camped before. Tracy ---------- From: Todd Peer[SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 11:32 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Camping to Deal's Gap Since we'll be moving steadily south, setting up a base camp to cover the entire weekend won't work. Once in the Deal's Gap area, a base camp does make sense. For those of you that have never moto-camped, or never been camping at all, it's no big deal. Your basic equipment follows this text. Keep in mind that I ain't no Grizzly Adams and if it's raining out before setting up camp, I'm looking for a cheap motel. If you've never camped, it's a lot of fun to hang out around a fire and bench race while quafing a few cold ones. Very relaxing. Expect to get a little dirty as some campgrounds only offer toilets. Some only offer the woods (we won't be going there). What you'll need: Sleeping Bag Flashlight Matches That's it!!! Remember, your outside and I've already discussed how to handle a rainy evening (motel). But a sleeping bag is a minimum to keep warm. Now, if your like me you might consider bringing some of the following as well: Gear: Tent Sleeping Pad (I use a ThermaRest) Pillow (you can get a blow-up that packs easily) Small first-aid kit (you should always carry one anyway) Rain-Suit Knife xtra Batteries Toilett Paper Bug Deet Clothing: Change(s) of Underwear and Socks T-shirts Jeans Tennis Shoes Light Jacket or Sweater And some saddle bags/panniers/tank bag to carry it all and keep it dry. BTW, I have a set of Chase Harper Saddle bags someone can use. The one with the fastest mail POP gets first dibs. I also have an old Pup-tent and a couple xtra sleeping bags someone can use. Keep in mind, these sleeping bags don't pack down to well (very bulky), but they're comfortable. All you other campers, am I missing anything (necessary items)? Todd +-----------------------------+---------------+ | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | +-----------------------------+---------------+ "I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer." --Homer Simpson From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 14:03:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA19595; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:03:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA29747; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:02:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA19699; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:02:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id OAA01536; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:01:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA26985; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:01:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980304190146.FWLP4928@[166.41.242.141]>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:01:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 13:49 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: CC: Subject: RE: Camping to Deal's Gap X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980304190146.FWLP4928@[166.41.242.141]> Tracy, I think that's a great idea. Aside from lugging gear, could you, would you mind playing chase vehicle for the 'just in case' situation? Simple enough, you go about your business, we know you're in the area and if needed we could call you on a cell phone. Todd <<> <>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 14:05:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA19762; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA00237; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:05:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA20000; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:05:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id WVLPa04959; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:04:25 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:04:25 EST To: ghowell@XXXXXX, klthomas@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: picking up the VFR Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/4/98 12:18:50 AM, ghowell@XXXXXX wrote: <<>Meanwhile, I'm saving for a house. Getting married, got new priorities. If you had picked the right girl, I'm sure getting the bike WOULD be the new priority. -George>> OUCH! Careful there George! Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 14:33:22 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA20569; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:33:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02902; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:32:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from scdh-99.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA21400; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:32:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mjb (mjb.arl.mil [131.218.32.189]) by scdh-99.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02139 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:32:37 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980304143637.0090b210@hazmat.com> X-Sender: mjb@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 14:36:37 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Matthew J. Bennett" Subject: FS: 400cc Honda Motorcycle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I realize this is a really vague ad, but a co-worker of mine (w/o email access) has a motorcycle that he wants gone. It is his son's, but the son has stopped riding and now wants to sell it. Here's what I know about this motorcycle (and all I know): 400CC Honda 2 cylinder (99% sure) hasn't been ridden in a while before it was parked, the master cylinder and carbs were rebuilt located in Calverton, MD (near I95 and Powder Mill Road) probably early 80's Very likely to go for a *low* price. Like I said, he wants it gone. This could be a great bargain. If you are interested, send me email with your telephone number and an appropriate time for him to call you back. (Remember, it may take me a day or two to get the message to him.) Matt ----------------------------- Matt Bennett | mjb@XXXXXX | http://www.hazmat.com/~mjb/ | From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 15:01:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21023; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:01:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA05805; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:00:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22528; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-60-244.s244.tnt7.brd.erols.com [207.172.60.244]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20564 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:00:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980304150211.0075bb94@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: cfagan@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:02:11 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Voltage Regulator/rectifier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anyone out there got an extra regulator that would match up to an 82 KZ550 which they'd be willing to part with??? The junkyard wants $75! or, could someone with a similar model get me a manufacturer part # off of theres... mines unreadable, and the kawi part # doesn't help when looking up at an electronics shop... Collin _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 15:06:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21137; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:06:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06145; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22768; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:05:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id PAA21737; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:07:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:07:00 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: Richard Wood cc: dc-cycle Subject: Re: Salvation? In-Reply-To: <34FCDAB0.5B5D@radix.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there some reason to care about anonymity if you're the potential buyer? There are lots of perfectly good reasons a vehicle might not have a title, but if it's a bike that's been reported stolen, I'd turn the seller in to the cops in a heartbeat. --garcia On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Richard Wood wrote: > I have many police officer confidants, if you care to check with > anonymity. > RDW > > >Garcia Oliver wrote: > > > > You might want to run the V.I.N numbers by the police first. > > > > --garcia > > > > On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Brian McCoy wrote: > > > . I received a call this afternoon from one of them informing me he had > someone approcah him with a running, non-titleable VF500 (no clue on the > year). > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 15:13:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21269; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:13:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06426; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23088; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:12:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-185.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.185]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA01104; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:17:18 -0500 Message-ID: <34FDB581.528D1EAD@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:11:45 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Matthew J. Bennett" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: FS: 400cc Honda Motorcycle References: <3.0.5.32.19980304143637.0090b210@hazmat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If it's a CB400 or CB400A, I have one that has a blown engine but is otherwise in very good shape. Mine is a 1978 CB400A Hawk Hondamatic. It is missing the electronic ignition unit, I gave that to Garcia. If you'll come get it, you can have mine, too. Leon. Matthew J. Bennett wrote: > I realize this is a really vague ad, but a co-worker of mine (w/o email > access) has a motorcycle that he wants gone. It is his son's, but the son > has stopped riding and now wants to sell it. > > Here's what I know about this motorcycle (and all I know): > 400CC Honda > 2 cylinder (99% sure) > hasn't been ridden in a while > before it was parked, the master cylinder and carbs were rebuilt > located in Calverton, MD (near I95 and Powder Mill Road) > probably early 80's > > Very likely to go for a *low* price. Like I said, he wants it gone. This > could be a great bargain. > > If you are interested, send me email with your telephone number and an > appropriate time for him to call you back. (Remember, it may take me a day > or two to get the message to him.) > > Matt > > ----------------------------- > Matt Bennett | > mjb@XXXXXX | > http://www.hazmat.com/~mjb/ | From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 15:29:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21548; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:29:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06984; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:28:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23737; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA04999; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:35:47 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:29:50 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, Rite Aid will be are meeting spot on Sunday. 10:30 We will leave at 11:00. (as long as Jeannette is their by then). Just Kidding, We will leave you too. HAHA Curtis P.S. No camping supplies needed for this trip. ---------- From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 4:19 PM To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Ok, here's the scoop (via Curtis) for this Sunday: (pray for no rain!!) - Jeannette Let's meet at around 10:30-leave at 11:00. We can meet at McDonalds or the CVS we met at last time. Across from Beacon Mall. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 15:46:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21869; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:46:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07671; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA24432; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:45:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id MAA03883; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id MAA12592; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:45:00 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id MAA12585; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:44:46 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD476B.40982EF0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:44:20 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:40:41 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 34 TEXT Where's the Rite Aid at? In the shopping center? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 12:30 PM >To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? > >OK, Rite Aid will be are meeting spot on Sunday. 10:30 We will leave at >11:00. (as long as Jeannette is their by then). Just Kidding, We will >leave you too. HAHA >Curtis >P.S. No camping supplies needed for this trip. > >---------- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 4:19 PM >To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? > >Ok, here's the scoop (via Curtis) for this Sunday: >(pray for no rain!!) > >- Jeannette > >Let's meet at >around 10:30-leave at 11:00. We can meet at McDonalds or the CVS we met >at last time. Across from Beacon Mall. > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 16:07:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA22260; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08014; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:06:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA25059; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:06:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-217-247.pitb.grid.net [207.205.217.247]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA05939; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:06:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980304160759.006a3bb0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 16:07:59 -0500 To: "Collin T. Fagan" From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: Arlington Electronic and beautiful ride Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980304123933.0075fecc@pop.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Collin, Arlington Electronics 703-524-4337 703-243-6914 Fax By the way, to all you office-bound folks, my apologies, but today was a fantastic riding day. I looped through Clarksville, then did a few runs on Union Chapel, Daisy, and Jennings Chapel roads, then headed north through Sykesville. Although there were a few raindrops here and there, overall it was sunny and beautiful. Again... sorry. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 18:47:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA25546; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA12271; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:46:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA00453; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:46:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA14755; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON ([207.152.142.55]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA11120; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:45:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "Ken Woods" Cc: "Mike Metcalf" , "Dave Hunt" , , "DC Cycles" , "ZX Mailing List" Subject: Re: '95 ZX11D $ALE Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:45:38 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd47c7$a2277200$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 >.............are you asking for the zx11??? >Just curious. 1995 Kawasaki ZX-11D dyno'd at 136 rear wheel horsepower $6800 including the muzzy titanium exhaust, corbin gunfighter seat with lady attachment (removable), two Givi hard luggage cases with brackets (removable), two shoei matching painted helmets, and a brand new cover (although I cover it in the garage this bike has never stayed outside). The muzzy exhaust was $1000 and the Givi bag about the same, the cover is worth $100 and the helmets are X8-Air's with custom matching paint I have about $600 in those. The bike also has a Scoripo alarm system ($300) and it's in mint condition (obviously). That's about $14,000 invested, not including meticulous maintenance using all synthetic fluids every time. New Battlax BT-57 tires, chain, sprockets, K&N filter, smoked screen, etc. Also will include a full Chatterbox system with rider and passenger attachments ($200). $6800 for everything is a steal considering just the bike alone is identical to a '98 model which runs $11,000.00 new. My bike has low mileage and still under factory warranty. Must sell, buying a house (hopefully). Located in Herndon VA if you want to see this incredible deal. -Bergie 703-968-3023 (W) 703-793-3863 (H) until 9pm PS: still have all the original parts including factory exhaust, seat, windscreen, air filter, etc. The Muzzy exhaust is 40lbs lighter than stock! This bike rocks! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 19:15:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA26332; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12739; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:14:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA01522; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomzell (Pool-207-205-218-189.pitb.grid.net [207.205.218.189]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA21782 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:14:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980304191217.006a270c@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: zellto@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 19:12:17 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Thomas W. Zell" Subject: Non-Moto---FS: Computer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey folks! I'm in need of some cash so I'm in the process of liquidating my inventory of things that I do not need of which one of these things is my computer(I have a couple at work to bring home for work and play).......... Custom Built PC 12/97 Excellent... Pentium Pro / Pentium II performance with all the goodies! $2300 or best offer Pass the word please!!! Specs: Tyan Titan Turbo AT motherboard 512k PB cache AMD 233MHz processor 64 MB EDO RAM ATI Rage II 4 MB 3D PCI graphics card Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI-2 PCI controller 4.3 GB FAST/SCSI-2 hard disk 1.44 MB 3.5" floppy drive 100 MB Iomega zip-drive 8x NEC IDE CD-ROM Sound Blaster 16 Vibra PnP card Labtec LCS-800 speakers US Robotics 28.8 external modem Tatung 15" SVGA monitor w/anti-glare screen Microsoft serial mouse Windows 95 Office 97 Professional Microsoft Plus! Jedi Knight Quake/Quake II Diablo Nascar Racing 2 plus lot's more Please respond to me off list at both addresses... zellto@XXXXXX zell@XXXXXX Thanks! -Tom From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 00:11:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00087; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:11:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15171; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:11:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA07322; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:10:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA18041; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:06:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:00:29 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: FS: 400cc Honda Motorcycle To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980304143637.0090b210@hazmat.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Matthew J. Bennett wrote: > Here's what I know about this motorcycle (and all I know): > 400CC Honda > 2 cylinder (99% sure) > probably early 80's Sounds like a Hawk.Standard/sporty twins.Had the first three valve heads and power chamber exhaust.Avoid the Hondamatic version like the plague;parts are hard to come by and the auto tranny sucks up most of the power. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 00:37:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00359; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15560; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA07748; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:37:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.45] (unverified [207.226.128.45]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 00:36:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: picking up the VFR Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 00:37:16 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Jinn Sinn" , , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >If you had picked the right girl, I'm sure getting the bike WOULD be the >new priority. > >-George>> > >OUCH! Careful there George! Too late. Already got put in my place bright and early this morning:) -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 00:37:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00364; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15564; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA07752; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:37:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.45] (unverified [207.226.128.45]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 00:36:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Camping to Deal's Gap Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 00:37:21 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Todd Peer" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >All you other campers, am I missing anything (necessary items)? I don't know about missing items, but you placed clean underwear WAY too low on the priority list. Hey, if anybody gets lost, just sniff out Todd! ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 00:59:31 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00513; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15682; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:59:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA07969; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:59:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id BAA22724; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:06:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:06:44 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: "Gil M. Nissley" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: FS: 400cc Honda Motorcycle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Gil M. Nissley wrote: > > Sounds like a Hawk.Standard/sporty twins.Had the first three valve > heads and power chamber exhaust.Avoid the Hondamatic version like the > plague;parts are hard to come by and the auto tranny sucks up most > of the power. Beg to differ: most non-engine (and some engine) parts of the automatic interchange with other Honda 400 Hawks, I think. And it's an excellent city bike, especially for stop-and-go traffic. I completely agree with you about the lack of power, and would not recommend it for high-speed roads, but it's my favorite bike for so-called "rush" hour in D.C. --garcia From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 01:26:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA00738; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:26:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA15976; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA08214; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA18518; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:22:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:13:01 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: FS: 400cc Honda Motorcycle To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Garcia Oliver wrote: > Beg to differ: most non-engine (and some engine) parts of the automatic > interchange with other Honda 400 Hawks, I think. The engine parts are the important ones.In a pinch,you can use any headlight or modify a seat.That auto tranny goes,you're hating it. > And it's an excellent > city bike, especially for stop-and-go traffic. I completely agree with > you about the lack of power, and would not recommend it for high-speed > roads, but it's my favorite bike for so-called "rush" hour in D.C. I hate automatics.Think they should be outlawed for everyone who's not handicapped.It's been my experience that they encourage bad driving habits among the cager set.No reason not to learn the proper use of a clutch. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 01:27:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA00749; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:27:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA15986; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA08240; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id BAA25171; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:34:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:34:54 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: Morris Berman cc: "Cycles, DC -- DC Cycles" Subject: Re: GS650 Help Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ah, a fellow capaccess victim! On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Morris Berman wrote: > Well, I was able to pull off the carb rack last night (after borrowing an > impact driver). I have never worked on Mikuni's before (actually, I've > done VERY little carb work at all myself). What would you need an impact driver for? There's no need (most of the time) to separate the 4 carbs from their common rack. Hope you didn't do it. > > I got the float bowls off, > the gaskets appear to be in good shape, do I need to replace them > anyway? No. Should just dab a tiny bit of glue goo on them and reassemble > when the time comes? > No. But if you need to reuse a damaged carb float-bowl gasket, don't even think of using RTV rubber (Silicon seal). Try a very thin layer of Permatex #2 (tube) or (better) Permatex aviation gasket (brushed liquid) or similar, that specifies ok for gasoline. > I pulled the floats out and float needle. Should I pull out the float > valve seat? Not unless you intend to replace it. Can be cleaned wo removal. I can't figure out how to do it, it doesn't easily pull out > after I removed the hold down screw. It's a press-fit with a sealing o-ring. Brute force will do it, but be prepared to replace the o-ring. Better to leave it alone unless it won't seal. Can I pull off the top covers w/o > damaging the diaphragms Sure, if you're careful. or do you think that I'll have to replace those > too if I pull the cover? --garcia From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 01:33:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA00797; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA16069; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA08317; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.45] (unverified [207.226.128.45]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 01:32:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: New WV Dining options... Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 01:33:35 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Jason Howell" , "Mom" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Found this on Motorcycle.online: -George > > Good news for hungry bikers. The West Virginia legislature is > considering a law that would allow the immediate consumption >of road > kill. Current law allows consuming road kill only after first > contacting state authorities. "This can take hours and the >thing's > spoiled by then," said sponsoring Senator Leonard Anderson. >Yum, > fresh-squashed squirrel. That's mighty fine eatin'! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 05:54:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA02748; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:54:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA18126; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:54:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA11058; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:54:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id FAA20042; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:49:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:44:56 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Real Biker. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey all, Remember that discussion we had awhile back about what makes a real biker?Talked to my dad yesterday.He pinched a nerve in his right leg(episial nerve or summat) and now depending on how he bends his leg he feels alot of pain.But guess what?He found out that he can still kickstart all of his bikes,including his XL600,without any probs! This is the same dude who rode his bike to the hospital with a broken ankle,then after getting a cast strapped the crutches to his sissy bar and rode home. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 08:20:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03568; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:20:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19283; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA12276; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A6344990238; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 08:18:44 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980305075138.009c6b60@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 07:51:38 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: FS: 400cc Honda Motorcycle In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:13 AM 3/5/98 +45722824, Gil M. Nissley wrote: >> And it's an excellent >> city bike, especially for stop-and-go traffic. I completely agree with >> you about the lack of power, and would not recommend it for high-speed >> roads, but it's my favorite bike for so-called "rush" hour in D.C. > > I hate automatics.Think they should be outlawed for everyone who's >not handicapped.It's been my experience that they encourage bad driving >habits among the cager set.No reason not to learn the proper use of a >clutch. I'll remember that the next time my left hand or left leg begins to cramp from an hour of continuous clutch use in bumper-to-bumper traffic! Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 08:34:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03691; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:34:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19340; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:34:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from att.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA12438; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by kcgw2.att.com; Thu Mar 5 07:16 CST 1998 Received: from dcn72.dcn.att.com (dcn72.dcn.att.com [135.44.192.2]) by kcig2.att.att.com (AT&T/GW-1.0) with SMTP id HAA07227 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:33:10 -0600 (CST) Received: by dcn72.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4811.83086010@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:34:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Ride on Sunday? Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:34:27 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a bit confused since I just got back from Daytona yesterday and because I am in digest mode. Is everybody meeting on Sunday to ride and then go camping -OR- are some people camping and then meeting up with others on Sunday? Thanks. John Carver '98 VFR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 08:41:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03811; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:41:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19388; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA12650; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id FAA18995; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:41:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id FAA17045; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:41:01 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id FAA17042; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:41:01 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD47F9.3F2AA4B0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:40:46 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Getting hit by stuff while riding Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:37:07 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 33 TEXT Hi everybody! I was hit with my first foreign object (other than bugs) last night. A trucker flung a cigarette butt at me and it hit me squarely on the shin. (Didn't think something that little would have such impact.) I'm certain he was aiming for me because we had been riding near each other for about 10 miles and I was never in his blind spot so he must have know I was around. Plus it was late and there were only one or two more cars around. Anyway, all I could muster was a nasty look as I sped away and hurried to my exit. Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" stories to share? Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. [SMTP:hgg@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 7:27 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Motorcycle Camping > > For those interested, the BMW MOA has been building a motorcycle camping >page: > >http://www.bmwmoa.org/camping/index.htm > > It's still under construction, but already has some useful info and links. > >Harry >Bethesda, MD >'97 BMW R1100RT >http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm >"The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 08:53:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03905; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:53:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19521; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA12874; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:53:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA22569; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:55:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:55:18 -0500 (EST) From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: Women in Sport Touring List , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Short Bikers' List" Subject: MSF ERC for electronic Denizens (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is still some room in the MSF ERC that I am organizing for electronic riders in the General area of DC. Information follows. The course is on: Sunday June 14, 1998 They are all day, 8 - 6 I think. They are held at Northern Virginia Community College in Sterling Virginia, but you do not have to be a Virginia Resident to come. You MUST bring your own bike, helmet, jacket, gloves, and wear boots that support the ankles. One of them, I've asked for the 14th, cause that is when I am going, will be taught by our own Tim Morrow. ********* The classes cost $55. To sign up, send me the following information: A check for $55 made out to NVCC (Date it April 1: That's when I'll send them in.) Your Name, address, home and work phone Your social security number* Which date you want! You can mail them to me at Julie Holm 9617 Verdict Drive Vienna, VA 22181. Also send me an e-mail to let me know to look for the check. No hurry except that I'll fill the classes AS I GET CHECKS. First paid, first served. I'll send you an e-mail to let you know you are in. If you have any questions, e-mail me or call (703) 938-0435 See you there! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 08:55:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03931; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19534; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:55:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA12923; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:55:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id HAA20412; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:54:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA32458; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:54:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980305135417.ZQGS27632@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:54:17 -0600 Message-ID: <34FEAE89.AAFFAF48@mci.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 08:54:17 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Howell CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Camping to Deal's Gap References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George Howell wrote: > > >All you other campers, am I missing anything (necessary items)? > > I don't know about missing items, but you placed clean underwear WAY too > low on the priority list. Hey, if anybody gets lost, just sniff out Todd! > Uh, I think I'll pass on that, thanks! :-) Dale (the Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 09:28:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04374; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19815; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13745; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.55] (unverified [207.226.128.55]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:27:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 09:28:27 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Viteri, Ursulina" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? No, but I've considered getting one of those gold wing cup holders to carry an empty soda can to heave when a cager does something stupid. -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 09:28:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04380; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19824; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13752; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com (oak.eainet.com [206.136.246.2]) by oak.eainet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA06339; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:12 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hartzler To: "Viteri, Ursulina" cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ursulina -- On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Viteri, Ursulina wrote, in part: > Hi everybody! > > I was hit with my first foreign object (other than bugs) last night. A > trucker flung a cigarette butt at me and it hit me squarely on the shin. Sorry to hear you were the victim of such a circumstance! Glad you made it to your exit OK. > I'm > certain he was aiming for me because we had been riding near each other > for about 10 miles and I was never in his blind spot You may be giving him too much credit. A person dim enough to throw a lit cig at anybody is also probably dim enough to overlook you entirely, or forget all about you when a new song comes on the radio. > Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? Just say NO to road rage. I don't think it's worth it. I suspect you're better off just taking a few deep breaths, and shrugging it off as that there are plenty of people out in public who are in very low places, for whatever reason. No need to join them down there. Be very careful what you do with negative energy, especially when you're in such a vulnerable spot. Cheers! Pete. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 09:31:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04422; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19840; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13822; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA02591 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:30:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA29748 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:30:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980305143051.CICQ27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:30:51 -0600 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:20 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: Helmets will kill you? X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980305143051.CICQ27160@[166.41.242.141]> This is NOT intended to incite a riot. But if you must, flame me privately. I walked into my local Giant Food this morning, carrying my helmet. I was looking over some gift wrap and this dirty looking dude in a long leather jacket comes up to me, pointing at my helmet and says, "Those things will break your neck. If you crash, you'll break your neck." Sound familiar? When I told him that was bullshit he said, "No, that's a fact." From whom? "Some german researcher." Who? Blank stare and quick diversion to how I should position myself when I crash. More bullshit! Does anyone have any serious, relevent data that would support the claim that a full-faced helmet will break your neck? And how likely is it to occur compared to what would surely happen if you were not wearing one (assuming your head comes in contact with the road or whatever during a get-off)? These claims ring in like the ones pot smokers make about the medicinal and textile qualities of hemp. "Make it legal so we can make wind sails, and clothes, and cure cancer [sic]."...."Repeal helmet laws so we can stop breaking our necks!" The guy reminded me of a born-again christian with all the answers, and he damn well was gonna let me know it. I wanted to drill him through the greeting cards. I told him that motorcycling is dangerous and to just get over it and he said to this effect that by not wearing a full-faced helmet (false sense of confidence) people wouldn't take as many risks while riding and probably wouldn't crash as often....sigh. Right through the birthday cards. Todd - an "Angry" pain in the neck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 09:38:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04505; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:38:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19910; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:38:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from drquest.digex.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13941; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.17.2.20 (pix000035.staff.digex.net [206.205.168.47]) by drquest.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA01903; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:37:21 -0500 X-Mailer: InterCon tcpCONNECT4 4.0.2 (Macintosh) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9803050939.AA18353@172.17.2.20> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:39:18 -0500 From: "Matt Elliott - DIGEX" To: "Viteri, Ursulina" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: Inline > "foreign object" stories to share? Ever throw anything back at > the offending vehicle?? just bullets... ;-) Matt From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 09:39:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04535; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:39:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19928; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:39:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13979; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13543; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:38:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FEB8AF.B8B224AA@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:37:36 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Viteri, Ursulina" CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > . Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" > stories to share? Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? > Ouchie stories: Be glad the cigarette only hit your shin. I've had one hit me right at the collar liine and go directly into the space between my coat and neck.... very unpleasant. Bees have also made for some interesting riding partners. Probably looked like i was drunk at the time, trying to find a way to get off the road and stopped in a hurry. Never follow in close pursuit of Ducatis!! I've found that for some odd reason, they tend to throw up debris worse than any other bike. Following a friends 750 Sport, he launched a rock, near golfball size, which found its way into my adams apple. It was all either of us could do to keep from crashing..him from the stone, me from the painful impact and nasty cut. Another friends 916 threw a similar sized rock which luckily hit my faceshield and not any part of me directly... destroyed the shield and scared the tar out of me, but no damage other than that. Never threw anything back other than dirty looks. Occasionally, I've given the vile offenders a nice dose of loud exhaust right next to them... specially if they're on a cell phone... I pull up next to em and feather the clutch enough to pull the revs up around 10k.. he he he...not the best thing on the clutch, but it gives a nice sense of revenge knowing that they couldn't hear jack on their car phone... CT From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 09:55:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04774; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:55:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20075; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:55:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA14358; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA27692; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:54:03 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C1507@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: BDCs & Close Calls... Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:54:30 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I was thoroughly enjoying my morning ride this morning (finally getting some speed on Route 50), when this lady decides to switch from the center lane to the left in front of me (I was behind her in the center lane). Fine. I start to pass her on the right & I'm right next to her & she decides - OOPS - I want to go back where I was!! DUH She doesn't even look & luckily sees me at the last second & swerves back in her lane. I had the room to move quickly to my right if I needed to (I noticed her dumbass move & noted my escape routes) but it did scare me. I figured out that I am a non-panic yeller. I yelled into my helmet all the while checking where the hell I could escape to... Beware the evil cagers!! - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 09:57:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04797; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20089; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA14404; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:57:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from MJordan666@XXXXXX by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1AWYa26882 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:57:03 -0500 (EST) From: MJordan666 Message-ID: <7cb74058.34febd41@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:57:03 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 56 In a message dated 98-03-05 09:13:23 EST, ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX writes: >Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" stories to share? Whilst riding into work a few years back, I felt something hit my foot - 'twas dark, and I couldn't see anything and there seemed to be no problems, so I continued on. When I left work that afternoon, I threw a leg over my scoot (SRX-6), reached down to flip out the kickstarter, and guess what... Good thing my office is at the top of a small hill. 85 bucks for a kickstart lever :-( >Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle< I used to carry a 24 oz ball peen hammer when I was stationed in Saigon. Seemed to work, 'cause after a few months cars started to give me room - the absolutely WORST drivers I have ever had to cope with - worse than me, even... Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:03:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04901; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:03:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20198; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA14609; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from MJordan666@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1KXYa28606 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:02:34 -0500 (EST) From: MJordan666 Message-ID: <2134f359.34febe8c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:02:34 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Helmets will kill you? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 56 A helmet CAN kill you - it's a fact. If struck by a helmet going fast enough, you can suffer severe injury and possibly die. ALWAYS look both ways before exiting a doorway for speeding helmets. On another subject, my personal experence in selecting the appropriate body position for a crash is that the crash is uaually over with before I have the time to analyze the probable trajectory. Body position just sorta happens. Michael (feeling somewhat argumentative this morning) Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:07:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04967; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:07:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20276; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:07:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA14763; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1LYGa15727 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:07:08 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE Message-ID: <53b0d26f.34febf9e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:07:08 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 >> . Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" >> stories to share? Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? apple core, a bird, a cassette tape, cigarettes, cardboard... But the best one: When I was still living in the San Francisco area, I got summoned to a family reunion. Since it was near my oldest brother's house in Placerville, about 150 miles away, I decided to ride to his place and tag along with him and his family. When I got there, he said, "it's a really nice day, let's go on your bike." He dragged up some decrepit open-face helmet (you can't lecture big brothers) from when he had a bike 20 years earlier and hopped on the back. I was a bit surprised that he would publicly ride on the back of his kid sister's bike, but off we went. It was more than a nice day - it was scorching hot. I snapped open the collar of my jacket. When we were about five miles away from the reunion spot, a bee or a wasp or some other stinging insect hit me right at the base of my neck, in the little hollow between collarbones, and stung me. I nearly passed out from pain. It was a struggle to keep my eyes open and my hands on the bars. But I kept riding and tried not to flinch, because I didn't want my brother to be on my case for the rest of the day for being a wimp. We got there and I took off my jacket and helmet. I had a huge welt on my neck. I looked at Tom to explain why I had been riding so badly, and saw that he had a giant welt on his face. Turns out a bee or a wasp or some other stinging insect had hit him while we were riding and he didn't say anything because he was afraid I would laugh at him.... Colleen From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:20:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05208; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20509; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:20:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15102; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23678 invoked by alias); 5 Mar 1998 15:19:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 23667 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 15:19:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jywon.imi?dc) (12.3.130.190) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 15:19:54 -0000 Message-ID: <001f01bd484a$233caa40$be82030c@jywon.imi_dc> Reply-To: "Justin Won" From: "Justin Won" To: "DC Cycles List" Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:18:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I once got hit in the head by a piece of tire rubber. Damn near took my helmet off. Fortunately, I saw it coming and started to turn and duck my head. It probably would have shattered my faceshield if I hadn't. Another time a huge wet leaf (I think it was maple) landed right on my faceshield and stuck there. It was quite a harrowing experience, riding blind for those few brief moments. The worst offenders in the road debris dept are those damn dumptrucks that drop gravel and rocks in the road behind them as they're tooling along in the left lane. I swear, they must be hired by windshield repair companies to do that! Justin -----Original Message----- From: Viteri, Ursulina To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Date: Thursday, March 05, 1998 8:13 AM Subject: Getting hit by stuff while riding >Hi everybody! > >I was hit with my first foreign object (other than bugs) last night. A >trucker flung a cigarette butt at me and it hit me squarely on the shin. > (Didn't think something that little would have such impact.) I'm >certain he was aiming for me because we had been riding near each other >for about 10 miles and I was never in his blind spot so he must have >know I was around. Plus it was late and there were only one or two more >cars around. Anyway, all I could muster was a nasty look as I sped away >and hurried to my exit. Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" >stories to share? Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? > >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. [SMTP:hgg@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 7:27 AM >>To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >>Subject: Motorcycle Camping >> >> For those interested, the BMW MOA has been building a motorcycle camping >>page: >> >>http://www.bmwmoa.org/camping/index.htm >> >> It's still under construction, but already has some useful info and links. >> >>Harry >>Bethesda, MD >>'97 BMW R1100RT >>http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm >>"The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:22:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05245; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20523; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:22:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15164; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A3131B00682; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:21:55 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980305101742.009cdd20@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:17:42 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:37 AM 3/5/98 -0800, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: >I was hit with my first foreign object (other than bugs) last night. A >trucker flung a cigarette butt at me and it hit me squarely on the shin. > (Didn't think something that little would have such impact.) I'm >certain he was aiming for me because we had been riding near each other >for about 10 miles and I was never in his blind spot so he must have >know I was around. Plus it was late and there were only one or two more >cars around. Anyway, all I could muster was a nasty look as I sped away >and hurried to my exit. Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" >stories to share? Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? It might really not have been deliberate. Many cigarette users are notoriously unconcerned with people around them I've caught cigarette butts on the bike, been burned by cigarettes that users hold while walking (while I was just walking down the street). I yielded one time to a lady, got a smile for my thanks, then caught the cigarette she threw out the window 10 seconds later. Few cigarette users, in my opinion, actually consider that they're throwing trash out the window. Burning trash, in fact. never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:22:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05249; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:22:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20529; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:22:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15168; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:22:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A3141B00682; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:21:56 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980305102230.009d0c40@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:22:30 -0500 To: dc-cycles From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Helmets will kill you? In-Reply-To: <19980305143051.CICQ27160@[166.41.242.141]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:20 AM 3/5/98 -0500, Todd Peer wrote: >Does anyone have any serious, relevent data that would support the >claim that a full-faced helmet will break your neck? No. In fact, there's quite a lot of data to show that helmet use does not increase the rate or seriousness of neck injuries. NHTSA would have studies like this, and I think the Univ of NC (Chapel Hill?) has done a lot of helmet studies. >And how likely >is it to occur compared to what would surely happen if you were not >wearing one (assuming your head comes in contact with the road or whatever >during a get-off)? Hard to say. The research can't do much more than compare neck injuries to all helmeted riders and neck injuries to all un-helmeted riders (controlled for severity of crash). Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:31:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05401; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20815; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15373; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1QKDa02917 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:30:29 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <67634d81.34fec517@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:30:29 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: BDCs & Close Calls... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/5/98 10:09:21 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: <> I too, rode behind an evil, sudden-lane-changes-are-FUN-cager-demon this morning ... it was very exciting ... especially as it was on the twists and turns of 2 lane Rock Creek Parkway ... nothing like cager-dodging to wake my @$$ up! Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:33:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05447; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:33:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20938; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15423; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:33:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1JGKa15727 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:33:02 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:33:02 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 > Fortunately, I saw it coming and started to turn and duck my >head. It probably would have shattered my faceshield if I hadn't. maybe not. Once the deviant mechanics at a Honda shop where I used to work took some old helmets out in the back and shot at them with a 22. Verdict: Shoei faceshields deflect bullets, at least small ones. Colleen From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:35:02 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05506; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:35:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21049; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:34:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15454; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:34:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1WVCa28612 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:34:22 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:34:22 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/5/98 10:30:10 AM, cnorloff@XXXXXX wrote: <> yes....most people are too stupid to be malicious ;D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:51:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05911; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21541; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16139; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:51:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4824.73737190@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:50:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: Getting hit by stuff while riding Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:50:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 59 TEXT Never threw anything back because it was not their fault that it hit me. I've been hit be lots of things - one thing in particular was when I was following a sod truck - got hit in the head with a loose piece of sod - broke my sheild on my 3-quaters helmet and covered me in dirt. Very exciting to say the least. Dale has sprayed me with gravel when following him on his bike - also have been hit with garbage from an uncovered load near the Prince William County dump on RT. 234. Tracy Tracy Horstman Suzuki Savage 650 "Users can be friends of the system administrator, but they will never be able to be a peer." ---------- From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 8:37 AM To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: Getting hit by stuff while riding Hi everybody! I was hit with my first foreign object (other than bugs) last night. A trucker flung a cigarette butt at me and it hit me squarely on the shin. (Didn't think something that little would have such impact.) I'm certain he was aiming for me because we had been riding near each other for about 10 miles and I was never in his blind spot so he must have know I was around. Plus it was late and there were only one or two more cars around. Anyway, all I could muster was a nasty look as I sped away and hurried to my exit. Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" stories to share? Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. [SMTP:hgg@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 7:27 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Motorcycle Camping > > For those interested, the BMW MOA has been building a motorcycle camping >page: > >http://www.bmwmoa.org/camping/index.htm > > It's still under construction, but already has some useful info and links. > >Harry >Bethesda, MD >'97 BMW R1100RT >http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm >"The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:58:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06285; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21928; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:57:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16751; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:57:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA18413; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA09535; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:57:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980305155710.NDNA4928@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:57:10 -0500 Message-ID: <34FECB53.DE74316@mci.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:57:07 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MotorLE CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MotorLE wrote: Once the deviant mechanics at a Honda shop where I used to work > took some old helmets out in the back and shot at them with a 22. Verdict: > Shoei faceshields deflect bullets, at least small ones. > > Colleen Great. My faceshield will deflect bullets, but you can scratch it with a wet marshmallow. Hmm... Wonder what the design specs were for that thing? Dale (the Horkster) Shoei RF-108V From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:05:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06550; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:05:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA22608; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17121; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:04:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1LMGa09367 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:04:23 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <3f74a5ea.34fecd09@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:04:23 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/5/98 10:41:02 AM, MotorLE@XXXXXX wrote: <> hee hee, having a "Shoei-head" I feel MUCH safer now riding through the bad parts of town ;D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:07:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06605; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA22725; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:07:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17232; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id PQYFa03502; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:02:07 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:02:07 EST To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 >Great. My faceshield will deflect bullets, but you can >scratch it with a wet marshmallow. Hmm... Wonder what >the design specs were for that thing? Well, it didn't look great after it got shot. It didn't look great before it got shot. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:14:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06767; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA23098; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17598; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12068; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:13:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FECF0C.6CBAB75D@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:13:01 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Helmets will kill you? References: <19980305143051.CICQ27160@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Peer wrote: > Does anyone have any serious, relevent data that would support the > claim that a full-faced helmet will break your neck? And how likely > is it to occur compared to what would surely happen if you were not > wearing one (assuming your head comes in contact with the road or whatever > during a get-off)? Todd,My harley ridin office mate (who happens to wear a full face helmet) had some info that showed that the only time severe neck injuries occurred with full face helmets was when you land directly on your chin in a serious face plant. The info also had impact statistics showing that something like <1% of the documented impacts were on the chin.... So my read on this is that the "that'll break your neck" argument is crap. CT From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:14:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06774; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA23124; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17607; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19145; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON (bergie@[207.152.142.55]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA20277; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "Meier, Christopher" Cc: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: '95 ZX11D $ALE Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:29 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4851$c675c640$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 No not true, just for this summer. Still keeping my Dainese leathers, boots, gloves, etc. I have about $1500 in those so I don't plan on getting out just yet. Since my bike is paid off, it's a source of equity that must go unfortunately for now, but I'll be back next summer, probably with a new R1 with overbore kit! -Berg -----Original Message----- From: Meier, Christopher To: 'Bergie Frazier Jr' Date: Thursday, March 05, 1998 7:44 AM Subject: RE: '95 ZX11D $ALE >Bergie, > >It sounds from the "laundry list" as if you are getting out of >motorcycling ... say it ain't so? > >--chris >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >------------ >Christopher A. Meier >meierch@XXXXXX >Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA >1994 RF900R AMA #470094 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >------------ > > >> ---------- >> From: Bergie Frazier Jr[SMTP:bergie@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 6:45 PM >> To: Ken Woods >> Cc: Mike Metcalf; Dave Hunt; Charles_Swan@XXXXXX; DC Cycles; ZX >> Mailing List >> Subject: Re: '95 ZX11D $ALE >> >> >.............are you asking for the zx11??? >> >Just curious. >> >> 1995 Kawasaki ZX-11D dyno'd at 136 rear wheel horsepower >> $6800 including the muzzy titanium exhaust, corbin gunfighter >> seat with lady attachment (removable), two Givi hard luggage >> cases with brackets (removable), two shoei matching painted >> helmets, and a brand new cover (although I cover it in the garage >> this bike has never stayed outside). The muzzy exhaust was $1000 and >> the Givi bag about the same, the cover is worth $100 and the >> helmets are X8-Air's with custom matching paint I have about >> $600 in those. The bike also has a Scoripo alarm system ($300) >> and it's in mint condition (obviously). That's about $14,000 >> invested, not including meticulous maintenance using all >> synthetic fluids every time. New Battlax BT-57 tires, chain, >> sprockets, >> K&N filter, smoked screen, etc. Also will include a full Chatterbox >> system with rider and passenger attachments ($200). >> >> $6800 for everything is a steal considering just the bike alone >> is identical to a '98 model which runs $11,000.00 new. My bike >> has low mileage and still under factory warranty. >> >> Must sell, buying a house (hopefully). Located in Herndon VA >> if you want to see this incredible deal. >> -Bergie >> 703-968-3023 (W) >> 703-793-3863 (H) until 9pm >> >> PS: still have all the original parts including factory exhaust, >> seat, windscreen, air filter, etc. The Muzzy exhaust is 40lbs >> lighter than stock! This bike rocks! >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:41:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07650; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24372; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:41:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19190; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:41:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1PEUa16812 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:40:39 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <3788f7f4.34fed589@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:40:39 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 "suggest to them that we meet at "krispy kream" donuts! it's just a few doors down. there's plenty of parking spaces and we can get there earlier and fill up on sugar!! what say you? i know you're not crazy about them, but they have great donuts and coffee" from a friend of mine who's going to join us (yes, Jeannette it's the boy ;D ) any takers? and yes, I know I'm playing with fire suggesting an alternate location at this late date :D:D:D:D:D:D but DONUTS just sound SO VERY tempting :D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:52:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07839; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24692; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:52:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19661; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:52:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA22228; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:50:52 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C151F@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:51:20 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain OOH YUM!! What does everyone else think??!! I'm in. Hopefully the sign will declare "Hot Donuts Now" as we arrive... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:41 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place > > "suggest to them that we meet at "krispy kream" donuts! it's just a > few doors > down. there's plenty of parking spaces and we can get there earlier > and fill > up on sugar!! what say you? i know you're not crazy about them, but > they > have great donuts and coffee" > > from a friend of mine who's going to join us (yes, Jeannette it's the > boy ;D > ) > any takers? > > and yes, I know I'm playing with fire suggesting an alternate location > at this > late date :D:D:D:D:D:D but DONUTS just sound SO VERY tempting :D > > Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:56:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07886; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24841; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:56:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19813; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19741; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:56:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON ([207.152.142.55]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01834; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:53:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "Lester Gilley" , "David Yates" , "DC Cycles" Subject: MIR Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:53:29 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4857$39093020$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 If anyone is interested in tagging along or meeting me, I'll be going to Maryland International Raceway this coming Sunday (March 8th) for Test 'n Tune 1/4-mile drag event. So far: Bergie ZX11, Rich CBR900RR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:57:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07905; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24867; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19857; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:57:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA02711; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:33 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:58:34 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What nerve!!! Just kidding. We can meet their and ride past Rite Aid when we start, by chance somebody does not get this message. Need direction, ask Marcy. Curtis ---------- From: Jinn Sinn[SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:41 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place "suggest to them that we meet at "krispy kream" donuts! it's just a few doors down. there's plenty of parking spaces and we can get there earlier and fill up on sugar!! what say you? i know you're not crazy about them, but they have great donuts and coffee" from a friend of mine who's going to join us (yes, Jeannette it's the boy ;D ) any takers? and yes, I know I'm playing with fire suggesting an alternate location at this late date :D:D:D:D:D:D but DONUTS just sound SO VERY tempting :D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:59:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07932; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24924; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:59:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19947; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:59:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD482D.667B80A0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:54:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:54:05 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ahhhh..... Donuts.......... (to the tune of Homer Simpson... a bit of a low flutter in the voice....) Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:41 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place > >"suggest to them that we meet at "krispy kream" donuts! it's just a few doors >down. there's plenty of parking spaces and we can get there earlier and fill >up on sugar!! what say you? i know you're not crazy about them, but they >have great donuts and coffee" > >from a friend of mine who's going to join us (yes, Jeannette it's the boy ;D >) >any takers? > >and yes, I know I'm playing with fire suggesting an alternate location at >this >late date :D:D:D:D:D:D but DONUTS just sound SO VERY tempting :D > >Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 12:04:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08018; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25121; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20120; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:03:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA02794; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:11:03 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:05:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeannette, you know everyone is going to meet where you and Marcy are. ---------- From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:51 AM To: 'Jinn Sinn'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place OOH YUM!! What does everyone else think??!! I'm in. Hopefully the sign will declare "Hot Donuts Now" as we arrive... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:41 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place > > "suggest to them that we meet at "krispy kream" donuts! it's just a > few doors > down. there's plenty of parking spaces and we can get there earlier > and fill > up on sugar!! what say you? i know you're not crazy about them, but > they > have great donuts and coffee" > > from a friend of mine who's going to join us (yes, Jeannette it's the > boy ;D > ) > any takers? > > and yes, I know I'm playing with fire suggesting an alternate location > at this > late date :D:D:D:D:D:D but DONUTS just sound SO VERY tempting :D > > Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 12:05:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08077; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:05:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25132; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20205; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id JAA07240; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id JAA21616; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:04:14 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id JAA21608; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:04:11 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4815.A10E8B80@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:03:56 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:00:20 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 41 TEXT Oh geez, well, I guess if you insist that we meet at a donut shop and even consume a few, I guess I'll just have to go along with it. Darn. Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 8:51 AM >To: 'Jinn Sinn'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place > >OOH YUM!! What does everyone else think??!! I'm in. Hopefully the >sign will declare "Hot Donuts Now" as we arrive... > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:41 AM >> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place >> >> "suggest to them that we meet at "krispy kream" donuts! it's just a >> few doors >> down. there's plenty of parking spaces and we can get there earlier >> and fill >> up on sugar!! what say you? i know you're not crazy about them, but >> they >> have great donuts and coffee" >> >> from a friend of mine who's going to join us (yes, Jeannette it's the >> boy ;D >> ) >> any takers? >> >> and yes, I know I'm playing with fire suggesting an alternate location >> at this >> late date :D:D:D:D:D:D but DONUTS just sound SO VERY tempting :D >> >> Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 12:07:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08119; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:07:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25201; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20270; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD482E.8949E9E0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:02:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:02:13 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And let's not forget to have a "ANTI-RAIN PROTEST!" In other words... let's pray for dry weather and lots of mistakes on the forecasters parts! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:51 AM >To: 'Jinn Sinn'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place > >OOH YUM!! What does everyone else think??!! I'm in. Hopefully the >sign will declare "Hot Donuts Now" as we arrive... > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:41 AM >> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place >> >> "suggest to them that we meet at "krispy kream" donuts! it's just a >> few doors >> down. there's plenty of parking spaces and we can get there earlier >> and fill >> up on sugar!! what say you? i know you're not crazy about them, but >> they >> have great donuts and coffee" >> >> from a friend of mine who's going to join us (yes, Jeannette it's the >> boy ;D >> ) >> any takers? >> >> and yes, I know I'm playing with fire suggesting an alternate location >> at this >> late date :D:D:D:D:D:D but DONUTS just sound SO VERY tempting :D >> >> Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 12:11:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08174; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:11:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25288; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20341; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:11:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA19987; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:11:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD482F.090CD2A0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:05:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: MIR Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:05:47 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I wasn't going on a ride Sunday I would drag my Pontiac up there (along with the VFR) to try and get some last 12 sec. passes outta her before I get rid of her... Have fun though! -Tom '86 VFR700/750F >-----Original Message----- >From: Bergie Frazier Jr [SMTP:bergie@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:53 AM >To: Lester Gilley; David Yates; DC Cycles >Subject: MIR > >If anyone is interested in tagging along or meeting me, >I'll be going to Maryland International Raceway this >coming Sunday (March 8th) for Test 'n Tune 1/4-mile >drag event. > >So far: Bergie ZX11, Rich CBR900RR > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 12:33:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08762; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25722; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA21438; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:33:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20336; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25870; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:33:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FEE1A1.F2A1A4DA@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:32:17 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bergie Frazier Jr CC: "Meier, Christopher" , DC Cycles Subject: Re: '95 ZX11D $ALE References: <01bd4851$c675c640$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bergie Frazier Jr wrote: > Since my bike is paid off, it's a source of equity > that must go unfortunately for now, but I'll be back > next summer, probably with a new R1 with overbore > kit! GEEZ, as if the R1 doesn't pack enough rear wheel ponies in stock form :) How big is the overbore kit and (I'm scared to ask) what kind of power does the beast put out?? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 12:43:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08948; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26255; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:43:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA21809; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:43:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20482; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:43:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON ([207.152.142.55]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA20065; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:43:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "Collin T. Fagan" Cc: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: '95 ZX11D $ALE Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:43:17 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd485e$2e62e240$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Well I'm not exactly sure on the power output of the R1 overbore, but I know a guy with a '97 YZF1000 who did it and went from 128 rear wheel to 147 rear wheel HP with the overbore kit and slight head work. The figures I've seen is that the R1 actually only puts down 130 rear wheel stock, about the same as the ZX9, so figure at least another 20 honest rear wheel horsepower with the kit on the R1, should make it a "real" 150hp bike, not the hype'd up nonsense the magazines advertise.. -----Original Message----- From: Collin T. Fagan To: Bergie Frazier Jr Cc: Meier, Christopher ; DC Cycles Date: Thursday, March 05, 1998 12:33 PM Subject: Re: '95 ZX11D $ALE > > >Bergie Frazier Jr wrote: > >> Since my bike is paid off, it's a source of equity >> that must go unfortunately for now, but I'll be back >> next summer, probably with a new R1 with overbore >> kit! > >GEEZ, as if the R1 doesn't pack enough rear wheel ponies in stock form :) >How big is the overbore kit and (I'm scared to ask) what kind of power does >the beast put out?? > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 13:26:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09574; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:26:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA28379; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA23066; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03365; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:26:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FEEE28.C0D7D69@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:25:44 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX wrote: > also have been hit with garbage from an uncovered load > near the Prince William County dump on RT. 234. > ick, garbage trucks and the like are definitely vehicles to give as much room as they want. A friend learned this all too well, following a flatbad hauling port-a-potties... Him and his wife got very soaked when one fell off right in front of them narrowly missing them... Better them than me... Collin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 13:44:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09774; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA28984; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA23682; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD483C.0F4FFD60@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:39:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Collin T. Fagan'" , "'Dc-Cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Getting hit by stuff while riding Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:39:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeeewwww... That's really nasty.... was it cleaned out with just water in it or was..... eeeww.... I don't even want to think about it! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Collin T. Fagan [SMTP:gixer@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 1:26 PM >To: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX >Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding > > > >tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX wrote: > >> also have been hit with garbage from an uncovered load >> near the Prince William County dump on RT. 234. >> > >ick, garbage trucks and the like are definitely vehicles to give as much room >as they want. >A friend learned this all too well, following a flatbad hauling >port-a-potties... Him and his wife got very soaked when one fell off right in >front of them narrowly missing them... Better them than me... >Collin > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 13:56:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09927; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29279; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:56:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24064; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:56:42 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.8 3-18-1997)) id 852565BE.0068458A ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:58:55 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: gixer@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565BE.0067C3F3.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:58:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Him and his wife got very soaked when one fell off right in front of them narrowly missing them... Better them than me... Collin Oh gee Collin. I just finished eating lunch. I'm glad I don't nauseate easily. Yuck! 8-) Steve From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 13:58:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09967; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:58:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29298; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:58:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24101; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:58:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id NAA15686; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:57:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA26631; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:57:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980305185734.BELG27632@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:57:34 -0600 Message-ID: <34FEF59B.1080CC73@mci.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:57:31 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KZ LTD List , VJMC List , DC Cycles List Subject: got my sprocket parts... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...and (gasp!) they are different from the old ones. Namely, new the front sprocket nut and washer from my 78 KZ 1000 LTD look different than the old ones that failed, so it might be a good thing. (I hope!) Instead of a normal flat washer with a tab that fit into a small hole in the sprocket, and another tab that bent up to hold the nut in place, the new washer fits into the splines on the sprocket shaft to (hopefully) hold it in place. No tab to hold onto the nut, though. And the new nut is wider (i.e. more threads) than the old one. Again hopefully to hold in place better. I'm assuming (hoping beyond hope) that these fit. Not sure yet, I picked them up at lunch and I'm still at work. It *looks* like they will fit, but I won't feel secure until I've got everthing in place. Anyone know for a certainty if Kawasaki did indeed redesign these two parts, or did my trusty shop screw up again ordering parts for "that big guy with the old bikes"? Anyway, Regards all. Hope some of you out there got to ride a real bike today. My wife's Suzuki Savage is killing me! Dale (the Horkster) 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 PS: While I was at the parts shop I got to watch as an older guy on with a nice late model goldwing plunked down $400 for some chrome trim on his saddlebags. Without a second thought. Oh, priorities. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 14:57:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA10982; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA00637; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25957; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id OAA16546 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:56:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA13227 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:56:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980305195613.QDOO4928@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:56:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 14:55 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: Take a break... X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980305195613.QDOO4928@[166.41.242.141]> Check this out! http://www.informanet.com/rainbandit/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 16:06:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA12696; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01771; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA29098; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:05:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD484F.CD650D50@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:00:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Todd Peer'" , "'dc-cycles'" Subject: RE: Take a break... Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:00:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting... Nice stuff.... but $250 for a motorcycle cover?? -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 2:55 PM >To: dc-cycles >Subject: Take a break... > >Check this out! > > http://www.informanet.com/rainbandit/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 16:26:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13161; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02020; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA00031; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:27 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA17313 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199803052126.AA17313@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:54 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:54 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:23:45 -0500 Subject: RE: Take a break... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p1)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="RE: Take a break..."; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="RE: Take a break..." look closer..it's a motorcycle cover WITH holes for your heads to poke out... I guess its for anyone who REALLY doesn't have the $$ to rent a hotel room when it's raining...I'd pay to see the riders fall off when they fall asleep! ;-) -aki > Interesting... Nice stuff.... but $250 for a motorcycle cover?? > > -Tom > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 2:55 PM > >To: dc-cycles > >Subject: Take a break... > > > >Check this out! > > > > http://www.informanet.com/rainbandit/ > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 16:42:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13662; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02265; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA00896; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id FJYFa10081; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:40:58 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <4c15515c.34ff1bec@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:40:58 EST To: ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/5/98 12:12:35 PM, ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX wrote: <> You better actually show up this time woman!!!!!! Grrrrrr! LOL ;D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 16:45:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13906; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02289; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:45:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01292; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:44:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id NAA20548; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id NAA27855; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:43:55 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id NAA27713; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:43:08 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD483C.881E0BB0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:42:25 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:38:49 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 23 TEXT Just try and keep me away from fresh donuts! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 1:41 PM >To: ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place > > >In a message dated 3/5/98 12:12:35 PM, ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX wrote: > ><even consume a few, I guess I'll just have to go along with it. Darn. >>> > >You better actually show up this time woman!!!!!! Grrrrrr! LOL > >;D > >Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 16:47:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13979; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:47:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02312; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01412; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA10019 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:46:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA16884 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980305214646.EOGB27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:46:46 -0600 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 16:42 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Take a break... X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980305214646.EOGB27160@[166.41.242.141]> I just thought it was funny to look at :-) T < Interesting... Nice stuff.... but $250 for a motorcycle cover?? > > -Tom > >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 16:51:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA14139; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02348; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:51:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01700; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:51:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id FCNHa10081; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:50:23 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <676384e0.34ff1e21@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:50:23 EST To: ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX, JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 DO-NUTS! DO-NUTS! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO slurp! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 16:54:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA14340; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:54:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02381; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:54:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02018; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA13060 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:53:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA01369 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:53:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980305215343.BZFL27632@XXXXXX> for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:53:43 -0600 Message-ID: <34FF1EE3.91FA511C@mci.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 16:53:39 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles List Subject: RE: Take a break... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >look closer..it's a motorcycle cover WITH holes for your heads >to poke out... >> Interesting... Nice stuff.... but $250 for a motorcycle cover?? >> I think it would be more useful if you could wear it while you rode the motorcycle. Why stop for rain otherwise? Imagine the stunned looks from cagers with that getup! LOL Dale (the Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 18:14:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA16020; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:14:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03094; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA04953; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:13:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from rdt.erols.com (207-172-87-111.s111.tnt6.brd.erols.com [207.172.87.111]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25013 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:13:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803052313.SAA25013@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Roy D. Turner" To: Subject: Saturday Ride? Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:12:31 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone interested in a group ride on Saturday? It appears the temp will be about 50 degrees w/ clouds. Sunday's forecast is for rain. Roy D. Turner, Esq. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 18:20:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA16163; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03127; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA05203; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27857 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:20:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FF5E18.42CA@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 18:23:20 -0800 From: Rave X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: WTB - Touring Bike Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: tnetoff@XXXXXX (Theoden Ivan Netoff) Organization: The George Washington University Newsgroups: dc.forsale.misc, va.forsale, rec.motorcycles > > > I'm interested in buying a touring motorcycle. > > I want something that is reliable and in decent condition for a 2 week > long trip to drive around the U.S.. > > My budget is on the small side so I'm keeping away from the fancy bikes. > So I'm looking for something that has been sitting in someone's garage for > a few years and they are interested in unloading. > > I'm in the D.C. area and would appreciate any leads. > > Thanks, > > Tay > > tnetoff@XXXXXX The usual disclaimers apply... -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" - K. Marx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 18:27:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA16259; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03182; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA05336; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:27:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id VOSEa15729; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:24:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <3e7eef1e.34ff3430@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:24:30 EST To: rdt@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: SUNDAY WEATHER Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/5/98 6:22:19 PM, rdt@XXXXXX wrote: <> Everyone ......... CROSS YOUR FINGERS .... or your eyes, or your legs, or whatever'll keep it from raining! 8-) Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 18:53:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA16603; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03337; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA05888; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:53:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.64.238]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA19390; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:53:04 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "Roy D. Turner" , Subject: Re: Saturday Ride? Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:49:25 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4891$54234fa0$b04d440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 I think I'm kinda flexible. If sunday's gonna rain out, i can go on saturday, but I can't do both. later kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 18:57:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA16633; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03374; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA05984; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:57:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.64.238]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA23099; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:56:59 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: , Subject: Re: Aki's mail, was Take a break... Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:53:18 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4891$df7841a0$b04d440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Who besides me can't read Aki's mail lately? I get a blank message and an attachment with no file extension. So I just saved the attachment as a .txt file and was able to read it. Damn, I'm a computer genius, ain't I? Later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 19:19:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA16859; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:19:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA03605; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:19:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA06411; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id SAA00861 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:18:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id SAA05832 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:18:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.41.111.88]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980306001829.FBVQ27160@XXXXXX> for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:18:29 -0600 From: "Linda Tanner" To: "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Aki's mail, was Take a break... Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:18:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01bd4891$df7841a0$b04d440c@default> Message-Id: <19980306001829.FBVQ27160@LJTanner.mcit.com> I am also having problems with his mail... LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze -----Original Message----- From: kevin thomas [mailto:klthomas@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 6:53 PM To: aki.damme@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Aki's mail, was Take a break... Who besides me can't read Aki's mail lately? I get a blank message and an attachment with no file extension. So I just saved the attachment as a .txt file and was able to read it. Damn, I'm a computer genius, ain't I? Later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 20:04:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA17332; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA03953; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA07226; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from rdt.erols.com (207-172-121-104.s104.tnt15.brd.erols.com [207.172.121.104]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04523; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:04:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803060104.UAA04523@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Roy D. Turner" To: "kevin thomas" , Subject: Re: Saturday Ride? Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:03:27 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will check my EMail Friday evening to determine if there is consensus. Roy D. Turner, Esq. ---------- > From: kevin thomas > To: Roy D. Turner ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Saturday Ride? > Date: Thursday, March 05, 1998 6:49 PM > > I think I'm kinda flexible. If sunday's gonna rain out, i can go on > saturday, but I can't do both. > > later > kevin > > He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 20:32:22 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA17637; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA04468; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA07754; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:31:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from the-dilbernator (pooh-ppp.clark.net [168.143.1.54]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16390; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:31:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980305203205.006969e0@postoffice.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: true911@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 20:35:47 -0500 To: "kevin thomas" , , From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: Aki's mail, was Take a break... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ME! MET At 06:53 PM 3/5/1998 -0500, kevin thomas wrote: >Who besides me can't read Aki's mail lately? I get a blank message and an >attachment with no file extension. So I just saved the attachment as a .txt >file and was able to read it. Damn, I'm a computer genius, ain't I? --------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove Email: true@XXXXXX WWW: http://www.clark.net/pub.pooh ... playing around at work, like I shouldn't be ... --------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 04:06:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA22399; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:06:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA12222; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA15145; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA26249; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:01:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:50:45 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <34FEB8AF.B8B224AA@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > > . Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" > > stories to share? When I was learning to ride I would follow my dad.He liked to wear open face helmets.And he chews tobacco.Needless to say I got the "push right-go right,push left-go left" thing down quick. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 04:09:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA22409; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:09:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA12240; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:08:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA15185; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:08:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA26254; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:04:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:02:15 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, George Howell wrote: > >Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? > No, but I've considered getting one of those gold wing cup holders to > carry an empty soda can to heave when a cager does something stupid. I carry odd nuts/bolts/bitsa in my pocket. Hey,Buells have been known to shed parts. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 07:08:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA23495; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA12792; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:06:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA16890; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:06:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26781 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:06:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20352 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:06:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803061206.HAA20352@shell.clark.net> Subject: Boxed in! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:06:37 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This morning as I approached my Concours, I saw to my horror that it was boxed in. On both sides, the cars were over the line and in my space. What was worse was that the car on the bike's left was way over. I leave the bike on the centerstand, and usually put it down on the side stand before getting on. There was no room for me to stand to put it on the sidestand, and with a full 7.5 gal fuel tank, I didn't want to try it from the other side. Besides, I'd probably bump mirrors or worse with the car there. It was about 3 inches away from the bike. Not a comfortable margin for error in my mind. I wound up taking the cage in today. First I tried stopping by the apartment security office, but no one was there. They aren't very strict on ticketing anyway. The car didn't have an apartment parking sticker so it's probably a visitor. I thought about writing a nasty note, but with me being gone all day, who knows what he/she might have done to the bike if he didn't appreciate the note. Anyone else have this kind of experience? What can be done? Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 07:08:48 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA23502; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:08:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA12799; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA16906; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:08:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD48CE.6F3A8190@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:06:50 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: Suggested Personal Equipment List for Camping Overnight Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:06:49 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 96 TEXT According to Girl Scouts: Health & Safety: * Medication - also let someone else know if you are allegeric to anything in case something happens * Whistle - 3 sharp blasts indicate emergency Basics: * Waterproof bag or duffel to carry gear * Waterbottle * Sit-upon * 5-8' rope * Flashlight, spare batteries * Plastic bags for wet/dirty things * Paper, pencil * Work gloves * Small stuffed friend (optional) * Jackknife * Whistle Add for Cold Weather: * Thermal underwear (preferably not cotton) * Warm hat that covers ears * Mittens/gloves For sleeping: * Blanket * Hat * Clean socks Sleeping Systems: * Water proof ground cloth * Insulation layer (closed cell foam pad, newspapers, exercise mat) * Sleeping bag, bedroll, sheet, blanket * Rope, 15' to tie bag/bedroll together * Pajamas (two pieces), sweatsuit * Small pillow or just a pillow case to be stuffed with extra clothes Eating Equipment: * Unbreakable bowl, plate, cup * Knife, spoon, fork (unbreakable) * Drip (net) bag, clothespin Clothing: - Essentials * Wear weather-appropriate clothing * Rain gear * Jacket, sweater, sweatshirt - note for bikers, you may not want the smell of a wood fire on your leathers * Bandanas (2) -Changes of Clothes * Underwear * Jeans, long pants, shorts * Shirts * Socks (knee socks useful for shorts) * Spare Shoes (not sandals) Toliet Kit * Toothbrush, toothpaste/baking soda * Washcloth, small towel, small soap * Brush, comb,nail file, safety pins * Mirror - metal, not glass * Tissues, petroleum jelly, lip balm * Non-aerosol bug repellant * Sun block * Small cup DO NOT BRING TO CAMP * Scented items - draws the bugs big time - especially bees * Gum, Candy - critters come to get it * Aerosol cans - hey we're Girl Scouts * Glass Containers - they alway break * One peice PJs or nightgowns - have to shuck off the one-peice to go potty and nightgowns offer no coverage Helpful Hints: * Those large jumbo storage bags are great. An adult my size can fit her jeans, shirt, panties, bra, socks in one bag - my outfit ready to and I have to bag to put my dirty clothes in - plus keeps things dry. * Dress in layers * Pack with first items on top * Reverse flashlight batteries in transit * When going to bed, put on the clean socks for the next day - keeps the feet warmer and you don't have to warm up you socks There's more from a Troop standpoint, but this is just for an individual - I can fit all of my stuff for 2 nights in a duffel bag. Hope this is helpful for some of you that have never been camping - you know how Girl Scouts are. Most of this is just common sense anyways. Tracy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 07:12:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA23523; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:12:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA12813; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:12:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA16932; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id FAA04956 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:18:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:18:04 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This thread went on the VF/VFR list a long time ago - and by far the funniest I read was a person traveling at a highway speed next to a school bus (opposite directions) and felt something akin to a punch in the chest - they looked down and found a cupcake in their lap... Personally, I've had to avoid fragged tires on Montana interstates at elivated speeds.. taught me not to follow closely behind vehicles which I couldn't see around - and the odd stinging bug down the shirt, stuck between the helmet liner and head.. etc.. Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:05:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24634; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15100; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:05:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA18696; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:05:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A27050370; Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:04:32 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980306090525.009dcc20@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:05:25 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Boxed in! In-Reply-To: <199803061206.HAA20352@shell.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:06 AM 3/6/98 -0500, Louis F. Caplan wrote: >This morning as I approached my Concours, I saw to my horror that >it was boxed in. On both sides, the cars were over the line and in >my space. What was worse was that the car on the bike's left was way over. >I leave the bike on the centerstand, and usually put it down on the >side stand before getting on. There was no room for me to stand >to put it on the sidestand, and with a full 7.5 gal fuel tank, I didn't want >to try it from the other side. Besides, I'd probably bump mirrors or >worse with the car there. It was about 3 inches away from the bike. >Not a comfortable margin for error in my mind. ... >Anyone else have this kind of experience? What can be done? I've had cars park so close on the right side (when the bike was on the sidestand) that I couldn't straighten up the bike to ride it out -- fortunately I was able to walk it while leaned over. I left a polite note on the car explaining what happened. Boxed in like you were, if I was facing out, I'd mount the bike on the centerstand, bump it down, then ride off. Parking the bike in a bike-sized spot would help, or maybe angling the bike within its own parking space (so even if the cagers park too close, it's close only on a corner). If the bike's or car's mirror is what's in the way I'd move the mirror. good luck, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:24:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24763; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:24:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15658; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19037; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA09805; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:30:53 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'rdt@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" Subject: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:24:52 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It does not seem like that is going to help. It's going to rain. Good choice of days Jeannette. ---------- From: Jinn Sinn[SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 6:25 PM To: rdt@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: SUNDAY WEATHER In a message dated 3/5/98 6:22:19 PM, rdt@XXXXXX wrote: <> Everyone ......... CROSS YOUR FINGERS .... or your eyes, or your legs, or whatever'll keep it from raining! 8-) Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:27:09 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24845; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:27:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15884; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:26:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19077; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:26:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA28653; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:25:34 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C1549@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Brian McCoy'" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Getting hit by stuff while riding Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:26:43 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I saw those posts on the VF/VFR list, too. I liked that story and the guy who got a bird stuck in his leg - beak first. He ended up getting off the bike (after stopping of course), running in pain while the bird flapped its wings trying to extricate himself. If anyone wants the stories, I've got them saved... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian McCoy [SMTP:bmccoy@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 5:18 AM > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding > > This thread went on the VF/VFR list a long time ago - and by far the > funniest I read was a person traveling at a highway speed next to a > school > bus (opposite directions) and felt something akin to a punch in the > chest > - they looked down and found a cupcake in their lap... > > Personally, I've had to avoid fragged tires on Montana interstates at > elivated speeds.. taught me not to follow closely behind vehicles > which I > couldn't see around - and the odd stinging bug down the shirt, stuck > between the helmet liner and head.. etc.. > > Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) > bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) > bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) > 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? > www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:31:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24921; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:31:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16098; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19180; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id IAA26520; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:30:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA18166; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:30:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980306143017.DBDD27632@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:30:17 -0600 Message-ID: <3500087D.40B66AD2@mci.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:30:21 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Louis F. Caplan" CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Boxed in! References: <199803061206.HAA20352@shell.clark.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, the joys of having an old bike. I'd a scuffed the hell out of both cars if they were in the way of my bike. Problem is, my bike looks so bad, no one ever wants to park near me. Cagers. Harumph! Another Angry Biker, Horkster PS: Did you have much room in the front of your bike? I might have tried starting it up, rocking it off the center stand in 1st gear, and then trying to back out. Making sure to bump a mirror or two on the way out, of course! Louis F. Caplan wrote: > > This morning as I approached my Concours, I saw to my horror that > it was boxed in. On both sides, the cars were over the line and in > my space. What was worse was that the car on the bike's left was way over. > I leave the bike on the centerstand, and usually put it down on the > side stand before getting on. There was no room for me to stand > to put it on the sidestand, and with a full 7.5 gal fuel tank, I didn't want > to try it from the other side. Besides, I'd probably bump mirrors or > worse with the car there. It was about 3 inches away from the bike. > Not a comfortable margin for error in my mind. > > I wound up taking the cage in today. First I tried stopping by the > apartment security office, but no one was there. They aren't very > strict on ticketing anyway. The car didn't have an apartment parking > sticker so it's probably a visitor. I thought about writing a nasty > note, but with me being gone all day, who knows what he/she might have > done to the bike if he didn't appreciate the note. > > Anyone else have this kind of experience? What can be done? > > Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:40:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25053; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16391; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19374; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA03105; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:39:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:38:35 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C154A@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'rdt@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" Subject: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:39:44 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain You are so mean. Well, look at it this way, the forecasters have gotten it wrong the last TWO weekends. We'll hope for more of the same!! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 9:25 AM > To: 'rdt@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'Jinn Sinn' > Subject: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER > > It does not seem like that is going to help. It's going to rain. Good > choice of days Jeannette. > > ---------- > From: Jinn Sinn[SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 6:25 PM > To: rdt@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: SUNDAY WEATHER > > > In a message dated 3/5/98 6:22:19 PM, rdt@XXXXXX wrote: > > <> > > Everyone ......... CROSS YOUR FINGERS .... or your eyes, or your legs, > > or > whatever'll keep it from raining! 8-) > > Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:40:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25057; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:40:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16398; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:40:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19377; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:39:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD48E3.116BDEA0@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:34:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" Subject: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:34:30 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey... the forecasters have been pretty wrong when it's come to the weekends so far... let's keep our hopes up folks! Tom '86 VFR700/750F >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 9:25 AM >To: 'rdt@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'Jinn Sinn' >Subject: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER > >It does not seem like that is going to help. It's going to rain. Good >choice of days Jeannette. > >---------- >From: Jinn Sinn[SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 6:25 PM >To: rdt@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: SUNDAY WEATHER > > >In a message dated 3/5/98 6:22:19 PM, rdt@XXXXXX wrote: > ><> > >Everyone ......... CROSS YOUR FINGERS .... or your eyes, or your legs, >or >whatever'll keep it from raining! 8-) > >Marcy > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:42:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25120; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16456; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19402; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id GAA07557; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:41:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id GAA18440; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:41:15 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id GAA18434; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:41:14 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD48CA.DBC24EA0@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:41:14 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'rdt@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" Subject: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:37:22 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 32 TEXT Yeah, I heard a call for rain Sat night and all day Sunday. How about catching up with Roy turner and going on Saturday? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 6:25 AM >To: 'rdt@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'Jinn Sinn' >Subject: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER > >It does not seem like that is going to help. It's going to rain. Good >choice of days Jeannette. > >---------- >From: Jinn Sinn[SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 6:25 PM >To: rdt@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: SUNDAY WEATHER > > >In a message dated 3/5/98 6:22:19 PM, rdt@XXXXXX wrote: > ><> > >Everyone ......... CROSS YOUR FINGERS .... or your eyes, or your legs, >or >whatever'll keep it from raining! 8-) > >Marcy > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:46:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25233; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16636; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:45:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19503; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:45:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD48E3.E13A43B0@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:40:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: Boxed in! Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:40:19 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With my trashed looking VFR I get the same results.... and I have no problem letting someone get what they deserve for parking inconsiderately.... wow... look at the scratch that bar-end left on there.... heh, heh, heh... Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 9:30 AM >To: Louis F. Caplan >Cc: DC Cycles List >Subject: Re: Boxed in! > >Oh, the joys of having an old bike. > >I'd a scuffed the hell out of both cars if >they were in the way of my bike. Problem is, >my bike looks so bad, no one ever wants to park >near me. > >Cagers. Harumph! > >Another Angry Biker, >Horkster > >PS: Did you have much room in the front of your bike? >I might have tried starting it up, rocking it off the center >stand in 1st gear, and then trying to back out. Making sure >to bump a mirror or two on the way out, of course! > > >Louis F. Caplan wrote: >> >> This morning as I approached my Concours, I saw to my horror that >> it was boxed in. On both sides, the cars were over the line and in >> my space. What was worse was that the car on the bike's left was way over. >> I leave the bike on the centerstand, and usually put it down on the >> side stand before getting on. There was no room for me to stand >> to put it on the sidestand, and with a full 7.5 gal fuel tank, I didn't >>want >> to try it from the other side. Besides, I'd probably bump mirrors or >> worse with the car there. It was about 3 inches away from the bike. >> Not a comfortable margin for error in my mind. >> >> I wound up taking the cage in today. First I tried stopping by the >> apartment security office, but no one was there. They aren't very >> strict on ticketing anyway. The car didn't have an apartment parking >> sticker so it's probably a visitor. I thought about writing a nasty >> note, but with me being gone all day, who knows what he/she might have >> done to the bike if he didn't appreciate the note. >> >> Anyone else have this kind of experience? What can be done? >> >> Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 10:28:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25775; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:28:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17937; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:28:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20808; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:28:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24428 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:28:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09741 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:28:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803061528.KAA09741@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: Boxed in! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:28:15 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > I'd a scuffed the hell out of both cars if > they were in the way of my bike. Problem is, > my bike looks so bad, no one ever wants to park > near me. > > Another Angry Biker, > Horkster > > PS: Did you have much room in the front of your bike? > I might have tried starting it up, rocking it off the center > stand in 1st gear, and then trying to back out. Making sure > to bump a mirror or two on the way out, of course! Some clarifications: 1) My bike is barely 5 months old... I don't want to beat it up yet. :-) 2) The way the car was positioned, the left fairing probably wouldn't make it pass the car without major scraping. 3) I park with my rear wheel against a curb so that I can run a cable from the wheel to a fence post (there was a bike stolen in '95) so I can only go in one direction. I like Chris' idea, and will try to park in a diagnal so I will have some more room to manoever. Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 10:45:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26113; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18185; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:44:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21360; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14984 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:44:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <350019CC.89F74D57@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 10:44:12 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: SUNDAY WEATHER References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We could always just sit around and eat donuts all day !!!!!!!!!! That would leave me all nice and filled up for my flight down to Miami later in the afternoon.... Ahhhhh, Miiiaaammii....(homer) twist my arm.... Collin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 11:45:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27503; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19110; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24299; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:44:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 9LLDa03868; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:43:27 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <3ba1fae8.350027b2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:43:27 EST To: CAClements@XXXXXX, rdt@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, JinnSinn@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/6/98 9:23:47 AM, CAClements@XXXXXX wrote: <> don't blame Jeannette! I said Sunday first! (Cause I'm busy on Saturday and wanted lots of company ......) besides, how do you know it's going to rain FOR SURE anyway? are you the Manager in charge of Rain? The REO (Rain Executive Officer)? Tee hee hee .......... just cross your fingers with the rest of us! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 11:48:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27562; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19274; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24470; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id FJAFa01471; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:47:23 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:47:23 EST To: ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX, CAClements@XXXXXX, rdt@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, JinnSinn@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/6/98 9:41:22 AM, ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX wrote: <> Don't give up on us yet Ursulina! Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 11:54:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27621; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:54:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19808; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:54:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24770; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:54:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA03163; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA17214; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:54:13 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA17211; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:54:12 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD48DD.6F25C340@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:54:12 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:50:22 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 21 TEXT OK, let's keep our fingers and toes crossed. :) Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 8:47 AM >To: ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX; CAClements@XXXXXX; rdt@XXXXXX; >dc-cycles@XXXXXX; JinnSinn@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER > > >In a message dated 3/6/98 9:41:22 AM, ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX wrote: > ><catching up with Roy turner and going on Saturday?>> > >Don't give up on us yet Ursulina! > >Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 12:13:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27874; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20756; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25445; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:12:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA11398; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:19:55 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'rdt@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" Subject: RE: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:13:52 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's nice today, lets all leave work and meat at the do-nut shop in an hour Curtis ---------- From: Jinn Sinn[SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 11:43 AM To: Clements, Curtis A; rdt@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX; JinnSinn@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER In a message dated 3/6/98 9:23:47 AM, CAClements@XXXXXX wrote: <> don't blame Jeannette! I said Sunday first! (Cause I'm busy on Saturday and wanted lots of company ......) besides, how do you know it's going to rain FOR SURE anyway? are you the Manager in charge of Rain? The REO (Rain Executive Officer)? Tee hee hee .......... just cross your fingers with the rest of us! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 12:23:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA28020; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20977; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25770; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:23:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 9BRJa04960; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:22:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:22:30 EST To: CAClements@XXXXXX, rdt@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, JinnSinn@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/6/98 12:12:48 PM, CAClements@XXXXXX wrote: <> yes let's have a general city-wide biker-it's-too-nice-to-be-inside-sitting- on-my-@$$-strike :D Marcy - who gets to ride out to Maryland in about an hour to do something for her job............ yay! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 12:36:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA28292; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:36:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA21576; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26251; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:36:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id MAA07847; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:36:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:34:06 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C1569@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , CAClements@XXXXXX, rdt@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:35:14 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I'm so jealous, Marcy!! I, on the other hand, am heading up to the treadmill to work out!! No riding 'till AFTER work for me! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 12:23 PM > To: CAClements@XXXXXX; rdt@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX; > JinnSinn@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: RE: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER > > > In a message dated 3/6/98 12:12:48 PM, CAClements@XXXXXX wrote: > > < an hour > Curtis>> > > yes let's have a general city-wide > biker-it's-too-nice-to-be-inside-sitting- > on-my-@$$-strike > > :D > Marcy - who gets to ride out to Maryland in about an hour to do > something for > her job............ yay! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 15:49:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA02060; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:49:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27983; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from att.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03283; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by kcgw2.att.com; Fri Mar 6 14:31 CST 1998 Received: from dcn72.dcn.att.com (dcn72.dcn.att.com [135.44.192.2]) by kcig2.att.att.com (AT&T/GW-1.0) with SMTP id OAA14762 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:48:33 -0600 (CST) Received: by dcn72.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4917.943B9490@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:50:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: No MC Content . . .Bed for Sale Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:50:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For sale: 1 Queen Size bed 3 Months old "Majesty Supreme" Box Spring Included Bed Frame Included Reason for selling: Owner is moving out of the USA New $312 Sell for $200 or best offer Contact Richard Godbout at 703 758 8935 If Richard is not there you may direct you inquiries to his roomate. Thanks. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 17:10:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA03545; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:10:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA01526; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06037; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:09:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from rdt.erols.com (207-172-33-95.s95.tnt8.brd.erols.com [207.172.33.95]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24953 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:09:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803062209.RAA24953@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Roy D. Turner" To: Subject: Roy's Sat Ride Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:08:24 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I propose meeting at the Silver Diner parking lot at Springfield Mall (Springfield VA) between 10:00 and 10:30 on Saturday morning. Leave promptly at 10:30 for Colonial Beach. Should take about 1 3/4 to 2 hours to get there. Should be able to eat lunch in Colonial Beach at a good seafood place and be back in the Springfield area no later than 3:30 p.m. First part of the trip is Rt. 95 highway driving until Stafford. Back roads from there. EMail me to confirm or ask for more details. Roy D. Turner, Esq. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 21:44:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA06219; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:44:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA05502; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA10755; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:44:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA20375; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:44:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3500DF63.7C42@mnsinc.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 21:47:15 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles CC: "Roy D. Turner" Subject: Re: Roy's Sat Ride Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From: "Roy D. Turner" > To: > Subject: Roy's Sat Ride > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:08:24 -0500 > I propose meeting at the Silver Diner parking lot at Springfield Mall > (Springfield VA) between 10:00 and 10:30 on Saturday morning. Leave > promptly at 10:30 for Colonial Beach. Should take about 1 3/4 to 2 hours > to get there. Should be able to eat lunch in Colonial Beach at a good > seafood place and be back in the Springfield area no later than 3:30 p.m. > First part of the trip is Rt. 95 highway driving until Stafford. Back > roads from there. EMail me to confirm or ask for more details. Roy D. > Turner, Esq. Roy, or any other kind soul... it's almost 10:00 pm - anyone got directions to S'field Mall from 395. I have no idea where that is. I'm of the belief that tomorrow will bless us with better riding wx than Sunday ;) I'm on D-mode btw so answer direct. TIA JK From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 23:14:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06819; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06226; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:14:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA11922; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id XAA06237; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:21:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:21:56 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: "Cycles, DC -- DC Cycles" Subject: Clymer's Giveaway for 81-85 XJ550 & FJ600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Since I no longer have my old Maxim (though I DO still have the big white box) and I now have a GS650 and just bought the Clymer's for it, I no longer need the old Clymer's. The giveaway is a Clymer's for 1981-1985 Yamaha XJ550 & FJ600. This includes the 550 Seca and Maxim. If you'd like it, contact me via e-mail and then I can arrange to get it to you. -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 23:17:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06850; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06236; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:16:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA11996; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA24187 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:16:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3500F515.4EFA@mnsinc.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 23:19:49 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Thanks, Merci, Gracias, Danke, Shay-shay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To all who gave me directions for tomorrow (the no-rain day). Hasta mañana... -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" - K. Marx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 23:49:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA07059; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:49:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06431; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:49:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA12328; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:49:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.46] (unverified [207.226.128.46]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Fri, 06 Mar 1998 23:48:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boxed in! Date: Fri, 6 Mar 98 23:49:43 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Louis F. Caplan" , "DC-Cycles List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Anyone else have this kind of experience? What can be done? Potato in the exhaust pipe. -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 7 14:31:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA12489; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14941; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA21243; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:31:12 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565BF.004F1ECF ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:24:12 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565BF.004E08D4.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:16:22 -0500 Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Okay, finally I'm going to be in town for a weekend, so I wanna go on this Sunday's ride...I know you all are meeting at the Krispy Kreme donuts place (which I'm 100% in favor of...mmmmm :-P) but I don't know when, and I don't really know where the donut place it. I was originally supposed to head to Pittsburgh this weekend to wrench on a friend's VW, but thats fallen through and I need some activities! The M/C is getting angry having not been run in days, and I'm scared of what it might do if I don't get it on the road soon! :-O So PLEASE send me the info, somebody! Either to this address, or: dougntess@XXXXXX THANKS and I hope to meet some of you on Sunday! -Doug '81 GS 750L douglas_brashear@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 7 21:04:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA16514; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA18629; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:03:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA26956; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.77.99]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA325 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:03:08 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: GSX1100G FS now Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:59:30 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4a35$d56aa4a0$634d440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Hey, y'all-- My bro-in-law found a new leftover 94 Wing and he's gonna buy it. His 93 GSX1100G shaft-drive standard with some extras is for sale. Probably around $4000. Under 7000 miles. I'll doublecheck the price. later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 8 02:32:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA19225; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:32:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA21101; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:31:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA00702; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.44] (unverified [207.226.128.44]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Sun, 08 Mar 1998 02:31:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Sun, 8 Mar 98 02:32:14 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >THANKS and I hope to meet some of you on Sunday! Given the wet weather, how much you wanna bet this ride doesn't materialize? As for me, I'm going to go home and install some extra visibility goodies on my bike, try another replacement horn, and maybe swing another ride on my dad's new bike (picked up an F650ST on Friday). I did get to go on a group ride of sorts today. My brother, father, and I all have bikes now (well, the brother is riding a bike that is titled in my name that my father is paying on.) -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 8 10:11:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20940; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:11:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28068; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA03536; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15200; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:10:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3502DFD5.5295@mnsinc.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 10:13:41 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles CC: VF/VFR List Subject: Bike Week - NYT Article (long) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey gang, Since most of us in the DC area are feeling stuck indoors today, I thought this article from today's New York Times might be of some interest. The URL is : http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/fla-biker-week.html Enjoy. March 8, 1998 DAYTONA BEACH JOURNAL At Rally, Bikers Flash Chrome and Gold Card By MIREYA NAVARRO DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- In the black leather, exhaust pipe extravaganza known as Bike Week, close to half a million motorcycle enthusiasts descended on this city of about 63,000 residents to partake of the engine revving, beer drinking and girlfriend flaunting of biker lore. Bars still post "No Colors" signs that forbid patrons from wearing identifying jackets that could provoke brawls between rival motorcycle clubs. Contests held throughout the city and the rest of Volusia County's coast during the annual 10-day event that ends on Sunday cater to the taste of the rough: "Ladies arm wrestling," "Biggest beer belly," "Great cleavage," "Best tattoo" and "Bikini pull-off." But behind that "Easy Rider" appearance are people like Roger McColaugh, 48, a mortician from Xenia, Ohio, who is attending his first Bike Week with two friends. McColaugh bought a Harley-Davidson Heritage Softail Classic in 1994 after, he said, "I finally talked my wife into letting me buy one." "I just enjoy the freedom of air flowing through my hair," he said. "Except Florida has a helmet law." Today's typical biker, in fact, is more likely an executive than a rebel, more a settled-down baby boomer than a bad boy, says the Motorcycle Industry Council, a national trade association that counts 6 million motorcycles on American roads. Studies show that although riders in the 1990s are still mostly male, they are older (over 33), more likely to be married, better educated and better off financially than they were in 1980. After a slump in the 1980s, motorcycle sales are up 43 percent since 1991, with Hondas and Harley-Davidsons leading in market share, the council said. Beverly St. Clair, a spokeswoman for the trade group, said that more people were looking for ways to relax from the stress of work or "out trying to recapture their youth." The stereotypical image of bikers derived from Hollywood and news coverage of motorcycle gangs like the Hell's Angels is far from the reality of Daytona Beach's Bike Week, the largest motorcycle event in the country, now in its 57th year. An event that includes motorcycle races, swap meets and parties can at times become a fest of camaraderie as bikers show off and admire new paint jobs and chrome pipes. Although the roar of motorcycles often drowns out conversations, Daytona Beach police say that, as a group, the bikers are no more rowdy than students on spring break or the race car crowds that stage their own invasions of the city at other times of the year. In fact, the bikers are greeted with welcome signs everywhere, at gas stations, upscale hotels and shops, some of which draw most of their annual income from the $282 million that the week generates in spending by both bikers and the tourists from all over the world who come to gawk. At the Boot Hill Saloon on Main Street, a thoroughfare closed to all traffic except motorcycles during Bike Week, Gary Gehris says that most of the several thousand people who fill up his bar and parking lot from 9 a.m. to 3 a.m. are older, mellower and friendlier than ever. Gone are the days of fights like the one in the 1970s when a drunken patron hit a police officer with a pool cue, he said. Now, people have a good time and pay with gold credit cards. "People say excuse me even when you bump into them," Gehris noted. Michael Hires, 52, a graphics artist from the area who has attended Bike Week for 33 years, sipped from his beer as he looked over the scene at the Boot Hill. He agreed that "this is a petting zoo compared to what it used to be." "Most of these people are on vacation," Hires said. "They have no agendas, no ax to grind. Before, if you tried to prove yourself, nobody could stop you. There were no D.U.I. laws so it was a continual drunk. Now people can't afford to act like that. They have families and jobs." And, he added, "when you're in your 50s, you don't want to get beat up." Women, the "chicks" in the back of the bike who were often treated more like property than significant others, increasingly ride in front. They now account for about 8 percent of all motorcycle owners, compared with 1 percent in the 1960s, according to the motorcycle council. "I got a divorce, got a motorcycle and came to Daytona," said Sharon Morse, a 50-year-old machine shop owner from Michigan who owns a winter home here with her boyfriend. "You get so stressed out and you start riding and everything kind of oozes away. It's like 'ooooh."' Despite the changing demographics, there is still the need to keep up a certain wild look. This usually requires men to have long hair and to wear leather boots, vests and jackets, dark sunglasses and bandannas. Old-timers, the lifelong riders who stay in campgrounds rather than in hotels, who do their own wrenching, whose jackets bear patches with the names of fallen friendswho are more likely to be war veterans and who take to the road rain or shine, are amused by but tolerant of the wannabes. Some noted that there was a kinship among bikers no matter what their stripe. "They want a taste of the action," said Paul Glint, 51, the Boot Hill Saloon's head of security, who is better known by his handle or biker name, Frenchy. But Glint said he could spot a nerd in a biker's outfit just as easily as he could weed out a potential troublemaker at his bar. "You can tell who they are -- a $500 jacket." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 8 10:56:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21196; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28168; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA03881; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:56:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (port15.annex4.radix.net [209.48.225.143]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA09409 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:56:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3502E932.58EC@radix.net> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 10:53:38 -0800 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: F650ST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 13:06:12 -0600 Message-ID: <009101bd4ac3$75b97b10$832f31cc@saturn.onyxgroup.com> Reply-To: "Pete Slatcoff" From: "Pete Slatcoff" To: Subject: Wanted: Yamaha TX-750 - 1972-9175 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 12:53:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008E_01BD4A91.2B020D30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01BD4A91.2B020D30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking for Yamaha TX-750 1972-1975. Books, manuals, literature, = brochures, etc. Need Parts too. Peter. ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01BD4A91.2B020D30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looking for Yamaha TX-750 = 1972-1975. =20 Books, manuals, literature, brochures, etc.  Need Parts = too.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_008E_01BD4A91.2B020D30-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 8 15:09:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23367; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA00432; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:08:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06476; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:08:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-24.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.65]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA32478 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:08:31 -0500 Message-ID: <03a901bd4ace$2be9c160$3210b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Getting hit by stuff while riding (sort of) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:09:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Is 395 a new war zone -- or is it merely manifesting March mental mushiness? Several non-rush runs between DC and Springfield area over the last few days have brought to note: 2 dumped loads at exit ramps (both reargate problems-???), 3 trucks shedding gravel at speed, about 5 false turnsignals (excusable on bikes, but cars . . .), any number of nonsignals (mostly by senior-looking types), 2 pickups with fallout-prone loads, 2 shoulder-to-shoulder brake-jamming lane switchers. And some other little stuff. It was after instance four I started keeping track. 9K MC miles around here and this current listing surprised me. Prly not telling bikemuters anything, but thought I'd check on how, in my motorcyclist way, I might bring authoritative drive-time help to order this quasi-chaos. Not too much, it seems, even with road rage crackdown, but did unearth this new-to-me info -- from a phone conversation with a seemingly knowledgeable VDOT trooper type (comments covering No.Va -- Loudoun, PW, Ffx, Arlington counties. Troopers nearly always ready near Lorton, WilsonBr.) Two telephone routes to VDOT in Ffx City: o Cellphone press #,7,7. Can be used to report an in-progress problem. LICENSE NUMBERS KEY. VDOT works closely with cross-jurisdictional types and zaps word out, if necessary. Drunks, safety problems, etc. Police have to witness transgression to pull over. o Wire -- 703 323 4500. Obviously time lag a problem though they will accept info for record. Like if somebody empties out the camper john (increasingly a probability, methinks) one might as well pull off near a telephone to clean the windshield and clear the ego. Have increasing respect for "clear view ahead", "lead dog" approach to dumps/panels/SUVs/problems, at risk of "WFO MC'er" tag. Any other solutions/insight out there? Bill Swanson Join the AMA. Join the AMA. Join the AMA. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 00:01:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA28438; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA09050; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15032; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.46] (unverified [207.226.128.46]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Mon, 09 Mar 1998 00:00:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: F650ST Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 00:01:25 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I loved this bike. And if you can find a dealer with a '97, you can get either $1500 off, or 0% financing for up to five years. Morton's had three last week, and were down to one after my dad picked up his. But, they should have five more coming in. (And while on the subject of Morton's, let me say that the staff at every dealer I've been to in the area has a thing or three to learn. The first time I went there, I met the owner (didn't know he was the owner). Steve (sales manager) didn't feed me a line of crap about anything. He's always been straightforward and honest. The parts people were knowledgable about what they sell. The service people were willing to tell me some hints on some service stuff even though I've never had them do any service on my bike.) Anyway, I bet you won't find a lighter feeling 450 lb. bike anywhere. The thing tosses from left to right as quick as anything I've ridden (granted, I've only ridden a small handful of bikes). Nice tight turning radius. In fact, I found myself having to open up mid turn, as the thing was so willing to turn tight. Engine is very smooth. It feels smoother than my R850R at most speeds. Only around 55-60 (who goes that slow?) and above 70 is there some tingle. Most of that, thankfully, is through the pegs, not through the handlebars. It's not super powerful, but it's still in the break-in stage, so I haven't run it up that high yet. It feels confident. It's certainly more potent than most cruisers. Oh, and the sucker wheelies easier and better than any BMW that I've ridden. The same technique that gets me four or five inches on the R850R gives about 15 inches on the F650. For some reason, my father didn't seem pleased to hear that:) My brother has about 1500 street miles on my Eliminator. After 5 miles on the F650st, he was riding some twisty roads close to the house faster than he had before. Maybe not smart, but an indication of how confidence inspring the bike is. Almost forgot the gearbox. Forget everything you've heard about BMW/Getrag gearboxes. First, this is built by neither of them:) It has a wet clutch. It is easy to shift into first from neutral at a light. The shift throws were light and positive. The only problem is that the lever is way too high for my tastes, something I may remedy today or tomorrow (have to house sit for my parents this week, so I might commute on the new bike. Anything to get it run-in quicker:) Hey, it's a blast. Go down to Morton's (or Bob's) and get a test ride on one. My father summed it up like this "That bike is what motorcycling is all about." He's never been that enthusiastic about something in the 25 years I've known him:) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 01:06:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA29668; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA10040; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA15926; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1IEJa01472 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:05:20 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23 Message-ID: <8ceb385e.350386a2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:05:20 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: A request for subscription. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 56 I would greatly appreciate it if you would subscribe me to your mailing list. My e-mail address is Eternity23@XXXXXX. I currently own & ride an '83 Honda VFR 750 Interceptor. Thank you. -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 08:30:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02482; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:30:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19104; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:30:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA21561; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:30:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA11670 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 05:30:15 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 05:30:15 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'Eternity23'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: A request for subscription. Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 05:32:30 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 20 TEXT Sorry Sean (and group), that address should have been: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX 1100GP >-----Original Message----- >From: Eternity23 [SMTP:Eternity23@XXXXXX] >Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 01:05 >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: A request for subscription. > >I would greatly appreciate it if you would subscribe me to your mailing list. >My e-mail address is Eternity23@XXXXXX. I currently own & ride an '83 Honda >VFR 750 Interceptor. Thank you. > >-Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 08:52:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02650; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:52:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19453; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:52:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.emeraldcoast.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA21988; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.49.47.131] by www.destin.net (NTMail 3.03.0014/7.aaik) with ESMTP id ta033637 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:01:44 -0600 Message-ID: <011f01bd4b62$0867cae0$832f31cc@saturn.onyxgroup.com> Reply-To: "Pete Slatcoff" From: "Pete Slatcoff" To: Subject: Wanted: Yamaha TX-750 1972 -1975 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:48:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011C_01BD4B2F.BDB1BC90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01BD4B2F.BDB1BC90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am looking for a Yamaha TX-750 1972-1975. Also shop and owners = manuals, brochures, literature and parts. Help...................... Peter. ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01BD4B2F.BDB1BC90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_011C_01BD4B2F.BDB1BC90-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 11:15:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06005; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA20936; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:15:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28235; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:15:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA20006; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:13:49 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C157E@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Testing... Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:27:15 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I think my outside e-mail is not working... Has this list been completely dead over the weekend or is it this server at work malfunctioning again!!?? - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 12:01:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06849; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:01:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA22644; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ACA.ORG by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00433; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:01:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from ACA-Message_Server by ACA.ORG with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:04:54 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:04:44 -0500 From: David Wakefield To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: How about that Daytona 200?! Anybody watch the race on Sunday, or was everyone at the donut shop or out riding and miss it? The lead was pretty fun to watch until Miguel Duhamel crashed maybe a third of the way through. How about that Pascal Picotte? In 3rd place at the Daytona 200 with the possibility of an actual podium finish on a VR1000 Harley-Davidson until an inept pit crew and/or faulty American craftsmanship (Probably both!) dropped him completely from the running. (Did he even finish?!) Fun stuff to watch on a rainy Sunday! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 12:19:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA07141; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:19:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23264; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01241; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16849; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:18:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02134; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:18:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803091718.MAA02134@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: How about that Daytona 200?! To: DavidW@XXXXXX (David Wakefield) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:18:29 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: from "David Wakefield" at Mar 9, 98 12:04:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Anybody watch the race on Sunday, or was everyone at the donut shop > or out riding and miss it? > > The lead was pretty fun to watch until Miguel Duhamel crashed maybe a > third of the way through. I went to take my clothes out of the dryer, and when I came back, Duhamel was gone! I must of missed the replays too (if there were any). Too bad, cuz it seems that he was the only competition that Ru$$ell had in the whole race. After the first stretch, he was the only one ahead of Ru$$ell at times. How did he crash? > How about that Pascal Picotte? In 3rd place at the Daytona 200 with the > possibility of an actual podium finish on a VR1000 Harley-Davidson until > an inept pit crew and/or faulty American craftsmanship (Probably both!) > dropped him completely from the running. (Did he even finish?!) Man, you could see how pissed he was. Frantically signing for a water bottle, takes one sip and flings it back (probably aiming at someone!) > Fun stuff to watch on a rainy Sunday! It was the first time I watched a full race (except doing the laundry in between). It was interesting although I expected more. After the first 3 people crossed the finish line, it was like the end of the race, they didn't even show how the others did. For example, Picotte. And for a "Live to tape" showing, they didn't really need so many commercial breaks at the end while Ru$$ell took his extra long victory lap. You can fast forward a tape! Interesting comment about him possibly not coming back next year though. Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 12:22:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA07205; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23311; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01377; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:22:03 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:24:24 -0500 Received: from THOMPSOL.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL [160.151.107.198] by dclink.com with smtp id AMBHCOEE ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:24:06 -0500 Reply-To: "Jay" From: "Jay" To: "EXUP Brotherhood" , "DC Cycles Mailing List" , "Baltimore Cycles List" Subject: Dunlop D 204 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:25:11 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4b80$5110e240$c66b97a0@THOMPSOL.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 I am considering putting a D 204 on my FZR 600. Has anyone had any luck with this tire? I have heard some negative press about it, but want to hear more. Later, Jay http://www.dclink.com/jaynik/index.htm Bodybuilding: The Right Way! http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/2199 Jay's FZR 600 Page From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 12:35:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA07416; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23549; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from digisys.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01901; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:33:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from quantex (X2modem6.digisys.net [208.141.130.15]) by digisys.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA28147; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:33:16 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980309103316.007a15c0@pop.digisys.net> X-Sender: vernay@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 10:33:19 -0700 To: "Jay" From: Don Vernay Subject: Re: EXUP Dunlop D 204 Cc: "EXUP Brotherhood" , "DC Cycles Mailing List" , "Baltimore Cycles List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:25 PM 3/9/1998 -0500, Jay wrote: >I am considering putting a D 204 on my FZR 600. Has anyone had any luck >with this tire? I have heard some negative press about it, but want to hear >more. > >Later, > >Jay >http://www.dclink.com/jaynik/index.htm >Bodybuilding: The Right Way! > >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/2199 >Jay's FZR 600 Page > > > > > >============================================================ >**Don't forget EXUP IRC chat Thursday at 9 PM MST** >============================================================ >**Euro chat is sunday at 19:00 GMT** >============================================================ >---> The New 'Official' Brotherhood web page is up! >---> visit http://superbike.home.mindspring.com/exup.html >============================================================ Don't buy a 204. Traction sucks, especially in cooler weather. If you want a Dunlop, get a 207. Better yet, buy a Metzler MEZ1 or a Pirelli Corsa, or a Michelin. Don Vernay Bigfork, MT YZF 1000 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 13:04:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA08183; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24303; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from DONALD.CDER.FDA.GOV by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03493; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:04:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr.cder.fda.gov by fdaserv.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.1-8 #21467) id <01IUGOKDZRLC8ZEQQB@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:52:48 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:38:29 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta DONALD; Relayed; Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:38:29 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:38:22 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy 301-594-5672 FAX 301-480-8329 Subject: Re: How about that Daytona 200?! To: dc-cycles Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:38:23 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: E1402IGZ2PPBC X400-MTS-identifier: [;92832190308991/2411429@FDACD] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 >The lead was pretty fun to watch until Miguel Duhamel crashed maybe a >third of the way through. Yes, it was a great race until Duhamel crashed. After that, the drama was just gone. The 6.6 sec pit stop was amazing though. No matter how many races I watch I'm always amazed at just how much the top guy's bikes squirm around. It really makes me look like a wuss... Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 15:00:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10448; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:00:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26155; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:00:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08207; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:00:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from JM7572@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id HEPDa26839; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:58:15 -0500 (EST) From: JM7572 Message-ID: <168ad749.350449d9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:58:15 EST To: vernay@XXXXXX, exup-brotherhood@XXXXXX Cc: exup-brotherhood@XXXXXX (EXUP Brotherhood), dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC Cycles Mailing List), balt-cycles@XXXXXX (Baltimore Cycles List) Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: EXUP Dunlop D 204 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 61 D-204. Abosolute junk. Don't bother with it. I would use Metzler or Michilen before I would use a D-204. Now the D-207 in either street or GP compound is a different story. :-) Joey From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 17:44:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA13506; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:44:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00442; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:43:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA14129; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:43:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4B82.36CC43F0@XXXXXX>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:38:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'jlobrien@XXXXXX'" , "'zellto@XXXXXX'" , "'zellto@XXXXXX'" Subject: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:38:46 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks! I have recently come to a very joyous point in my life and I thought I might share it with all of you because without you all and the list, this might not have happened. Please read on! And Kevin... please bare with me as you've already heard this one... About three and a half months ago I came across a post on the VF/VFR list that Jeannette had sent in regards to finding fellow riders in the D.C. area. She said that she had just purchased her VF500 and was looking for people to ride with. Well, I tried responding back to her through her personal email address and the VF/VFR list. Unfortunately, I did not get a reply back that afternoon so I posted to the VF/VFR list again trying to find her. I finally got a reply back right before Thanksgiving. We got to talking a little by email and had somewhat sorta made plans to meet up for a group ride with her friends on the following Monday. She had also told me about finding local riders through the DC-Cycles list. Well, as luck would have it, I had to work as usual and because of my responsibilities I couldn't take the day off. I was also seeing someone at the time and out of respect for the other person I bowed out. I knew that if I met Jeannette I would end up going out with her. It was just one of those feelings. Now fast-forward about two months.....It was the middle of January and I was finally starting to get over the flu. My interest in my pc and the VFR had started to perk up again so I decided to start checking out the internet for parts and such. Andrew Reveles(from the VFR list)was just finishing his Project Phoenix VFR so I was getting psyched. I needed(and still need) to find an F2 front wheel to complete the suspension conversion on the VFR. It was then that I came across the DC-Cycles list. I had remembered Jeannette giving me information about the list when we talked before so I decided to join and see if I could get some help finding stuff. I saw a few posts from Jeannette and the interest was sparked again. At about the same time Leon was setting up his Lean Angles contest/get together out at the Prince William Cnty Pkwy park&ride lot. My VFR was down at the time(waiting for the wheel) but I decided to show up anyway to come out and meet everyone. Most of all I wanted to meet Jeannette. I was still seeing that same person(things were not working out, however) but there was a feeling that I had that I just had to act upon. I finally got to meet her and basically we hit it off from the start. After talking with her and Collin for a while(I did meet everyone who showed) everyone decided on lunch. We ended up at Bob Evans and I was fortunate enough to sit next to her for the time that we were there. At first we were chatting with everyone at the table making the usual conversations, but then we just started talking with each other. I even shared part of my lunch with her. We then got onto the subject of Titanic. I explained some of my views on it and asked her if she had seen it. When I found that she had not, I told her that I would be glad to see it again if she wanted to go. She told me that she would like to and I left it at that. We also managed to exchange our interests in body piercing's, my nipple, her navel. Things were rolling along quite nicely!! We finished eating and everyone decided to part. Jeannette, Collin, my friend Lenzy, and myself decided to hang out in the parking lot for a while longer. We talked on about a number of subjects. Anything was good for me because I just wasn't ready to say goodbye. Jeannette did manage to talk me into putting the VFR back together so I could come out with it for Lean Angles part 2. We said our good-byes and left. All the way home, the only thing I could do was talk about Jeannette. I must have talked my friend's ear off. I got home and started working on the bike. Three hours later my brother and I (and my Pit Bull, Zeus) were pulling the VFR through the mud in my backyard. I got the bike cleaned off and had it ready for the morning. I got to the park and ride and the only people there were Ursulina, Collin and his wife Penny, and Leon with his daughter. No Jeannette!!! I was bummed but I figured there was a reason. So we shoot ahead to later that night. I was on the phone with Lenzy and I got this strange page. I instantly knew it was Jeannette so I hung up with him and called her right back. I talked to her for a few minutes and finalized plans to see Titanic that Tuesday. I was very, very happy! I picked up Jeannette to see Titanic and we were off. It was so nice seeing the movie with her and by the end of the evening I knew I was falling for her. I took her back to her house and after hours of standing in the rain talking and such I decided it was time to go... but not without a kiss. I caressed her face in my hands and kissed her. I swear you could have heard a pin drop. I felt the earth move and at that moment I knew that fate had finally brought me to my soulmate. I had never felt anything like that before in my life and according to her the feeling was mutual. The following weekend we spent the whole time together. I was in heaven! Now we shoot ahead again to Valentine's weekend. We had a nice long weekend together, and to make things plain and simple, we professed our love to one another. It was really fast in the making, but we both knew it was meant to be! Finally, I had found the love that I had been searching for all my life and she the same. Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are engaged to be married!! We went out Saturday searching for our diamond and we found it. Now we're just waiting on the setting. I asked for her parents permission Saturday evening and they happily said yes. When I finally pick up the ring, I will propose to her( I wanted to have it with me of course)! We are to be married on March 27th, 1999. We can hardly wait!! Jeanette and I would like to extend our thanks to you all on the DC-Cycles list and the VF/VFR list for without them we may never had met one another... and yes... romance and love are still alive in the world today... sometimes you really have to look for it to find it! -Tom Zell '86 VFR700/750F -Jeanette O'brien '85 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 18:03:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA13695; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:03:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA01162; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:03:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA14649; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA22349 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:48:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:48:52 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy Reply-To: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: MARRC Cornerworking Training - Reminder Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Who: Anyone interested in learing how to cornerwork When: Saturday, March 14, 4pm to 8;30pm Where: Four Corners Recreation Center, Silver Spring, Maryland Why:The mid-Atlantic Roadracing Club (MARRC) has been providing top-quality safety crews for our motorcycle races for more than ten years. The Race Emergency School is our annual work session designed to teach volunteers how to be part of the best cornerworking crew in the country. You will be trained on cornerworkers' roles and duties, flags and flagging, hand signals, personal safety, radio procedures, bike pick-up and inspection, oil cleanup and other issues important to a cornerworker. A light dinner will be provided, but itf you need more substantial fare, please feel free to bring your own. The benefits of working with the MARRC Safety Crew include complimentary: Admission to the race track Lunch daily and dinner on Saturday at the track Safety Crew tee shirt MARRC Membership New friends, great times, and more! For more information, feel free to contact any of the following: David Rickman - (703)435-1223 Rodger Bacon - (703)379-8918 - rababacon@XXXXXX Wendy Karppi - (410)451-8382 - halfpint@XXXXXX Myself (Brian McCoy) (301)445-4451 - (e-mails at the bottom) Directions: >From the Washington beltway, go north on either route 29 (colesville Rd) or route 193 (University Blvd). At the junction of 29 and 193, go north on 29 towards Columbia. The second left is Southwood Ave. Follow Southwood to the rec center. hope to see all of you there!!! (ok, so I won't seen anyone there, cause I'm not going! ha, sorry.. For those who do get involved, I'll see ya at the track!) Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com\motorcity\1319 (OLD Homepage - view at your own risk) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 18:06:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA13747; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:06:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA01256; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA14746; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:06:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA21635; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:43:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:43:38 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: David Wakefield cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: How about that Daytona 200?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, David Wakefield wrote: > > How about that Pascal Picotte? In 3rd place at the Daytona 200 with the > possibility of an actual podium finish on a VR1000 Harley-Davidson until > an inept pit crew and/or faulty American craftsmanship (Probably both!) > dropped him completely from the running. (Did he even finish?!) He took 40th - and it was definatly an inept pit crew.. they left the impact nut attached to the rear axle one time.. running after him to stop him, but it fell off (first stop). Agreed about the race being dead borring after Miguell overbraked and waded that expen$ive bike.. Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 19:26:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA14704; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:26:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA02307; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:26:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA16681; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:26:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from dagoe.erols.com (207-172-90-29.s283.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.29]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA15025 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:26:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980309192736.00687a6c@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: dagoe@XXXXXX (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 19:27:36 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Running Cloud Subject: Parts Bike Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A friend has a junky 1975 Honda CB360 that he'll sell cheap. Call him in Annapolis at 410-268-3073. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 19:58:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA15165; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA02500; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from radagast.wizard.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA17375; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:58:02 -0500 (EST) From: thetrick@XXXXXX Received: from nt_thetrick (tc1-s32.wizard.net [206.161.15.62]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA27469 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:58:01 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980309075717.00966940@mail.wizard.net> X-Sender: thetrick@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 07:57:17 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: newsgroup find Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" found the following ad in dc.forsale.misc. don't think it has been reposted here yet. also, i was wondering if anyone got in touch with the seller of a Ducati 860 from an ad which was reposted here last week. if you know something (and don't want to buy the bike yourself :), how about telling me how to get in touch with the seller? thx ============== >Subject: bmw 750 mc fs >Date: Sat, 07 Mar 98 21:23:44 GMT >From: David.Shapiro@XXXXXX (David Shapiro) >Organization: Air 'n Sun >Newsgroups: dc.forsale.misc > >1975 R bike for sale, 750 cc, ridden daily, funky looking but reliable enough >for me (too funky for my sweetie) with Windjammer III and engine guards >301-699-8833. Liek to get $2000, don't necessarily expect to. all possible disclaimers apply ;) tom From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 22:06:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA16819; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:06:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA03269; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:05:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA20388; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:05:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from gte.net (2Cust43.tnt9.atl2.da.uu.net [153.36.59.171]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01179; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:05:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3505FEA5.48CD1E0A@gte.net> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:01:58 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" Organization: MSC Salvage Team X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay CC: EXUP Brotherhood , DC Cycles Mailing List , Baltimore Cycles List Subject: Re: Dunlop D 204 References: <01bd4b80$5110e240$c66b97a0@THOMPSOL.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jay, (quick note from sunny Miami...ahhhh gov't travel) If you ride your bike anything past standard commuting, don't waste your cash on The 204's....They wear out in nothing flat, and they slide out terribly easy. For a very few bucks more (ballpark of MEZ1s) get the Avon Azarros... Incredible fairing and peg dragging grip, and excellent tread life. I was getting 2k per rear and 4k per front on the 204 in street compound... With the Azarros, I got about 500 miles more out of the front, but about 3000 more miles out of the rear. Remind me when I get back to DC Wed evening, and I can tell you all about the Avons.. >From a once long time Dunlop user, i swear by them.. then again, maybe I just got tired of buying 5 or more sets of tires a year for my gixer! Collin Jay wrote: > I am considering putting a D 204 on my FZR 600. Has anyone had any luck > with this tire? I have heard some negative press about it, but want to hear > more. > > Later, > > Jay > http://www.dclink.com/jaynik/index.htm > Bodybuilding: The Right Way! > > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/2199 > Jay's FZR 600 Page From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 22:16:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA16881; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA03336; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:16:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA20652; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from DMoody8850@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id CJHKa08714; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:14:05 -0500 (EST) From: DMoody8850 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:14:05 EST To: homesalv@XXXXXX, jaynik@XXXXXX Cc: exup-brotherhood@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: EXUP Re: Dunlop D 204 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 In a message dated 98-03-09 22:11:06 EST, homesalv@XXXXXX writes: << Jay, (quick note from sunny Miami...ahhhh gov't travel) If you ride your bike anything past standard commuting, don't waste your cash on The 204's....They wear out in nothing flat, and they slide out terribly easy. For a very few bucks more (ballpark of MEZ1s) get the Avon Azarros... Incredible fairing and peg dragging grip, and excellent tread life. I was getting 2k per rear and 4k per front on the 204 in street compound... With the Azarros, I got about 500 miles more out of the front, but about 3000 more miles out of the rear. Remind me when I get back to DC Wed evening, and I can tell you all about the Avons.. From a once long time Dunlop user, i swear by them.. then again, maybe I just got tired of buying 5 or more sets of tires a year for my gixer! Collin >> You must be hard on your tires. I have 3900 miles on my 204's and they still have at least 1000 miles left in them if not more. Hammer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 22:28:46 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA17039; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:28:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA03408; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA20985; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:28:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com ([207.205.129.147]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA14190 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:28:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980309220853.0069fb30@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 22:08:53 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Greetings from Asheville Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Here's the short version: I woke up this morning, loaded up the bike, and wound up in Asheville, NC. Stats from the GPS: Total miles: 477 Travel time: 6:28 Average Speed: 73.7 mph Top speed: 112 Highest elevation: 3,462 feet The longer version is as follows, though a full trip report is in the works: After checking the area radar on cable tv, I planned out the quickest route out of the rain and into the hills: 495 to 66 to Front Royal. With a bolus of caffeine and Motrin, I initalized a series of waypoints on the new GPS and headed out into the rain and rush hour. Although the heaviest of rain had passed through the area, it was still coming down pretty hard most of the way out 66. However, as I approached Front Royal, I was greet by sunshine and a mammoth rainbow. Turning south I had a beautiful trip: warm, sunny, no cops, spectacular scenery. However I did run into a bit of a squall about 200 miles with frighteningly heavy gusts. Thankfully, it was over relatively quickly. I cruised into Johnson City, TN, and headed through the mountains on RT 19, one of the most beautifully situated and maintained roads I have ever seen: curvy divided highway, banked turns, and even little nets to prevent falling rocks from sliding into the road. At the TN/NC border, though, the road abruptly changes. Apparently, NC hasn't gotten around to upgrading their leg of it. Still, though, the ride into Asheville was excellent. Asheville is a very cool city in the hills, well worth the visit. After dropping of my stuff at the Radisson (hey... it's my vacation and I got a good rate through AAA, including breakfast and mountain view), I took a stroll through town. It's filled with all sorts of very unique and funky shops. Not the least of which was the "Center for Massage & Natural Health," where I, being a health care provider, felt obligated to take advantage of their expertise, particularly after nearly 6.5 hours in the saddle. An hour later, I was healed. After a fantastic dinner, I headed back to the hotel, unpacked the laptop, and mapped out my itinerary for tomorrow, which should include a visit to Deal's Gap and the Biltmore Mansion. I'll send another update in tomorrow. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 22:44:22 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA17194; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA03485; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:44:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA21398; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA03181 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:44:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3504E1EA.4D19@mnsinc.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 22:47:06 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Saturday Ride (no rain ;) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey gang, Kind of a slow weekend but loved the race yesterday even if they did have WAY too many commercials. Others already mentioned the highlights which merit reiteration : the 6.6 second pitstop for Scott Ru$$el (good one Louis) as well as the H-D pit crew slackers who might soon be realizing their last paycheck - duh! Anyway, I was surprised (shocked) that only three bikes made it to Roy Turner's ride to Colonial Beach on Saturday. I met Roy (1997 GooF3) at S'field Silver Diner - I hate S'field since there are way too many cars there ! - and we proceeded to hook up with his buddy Kevin Bechtel (1991 VFR750) a little while later. Kevin led the ride for the most part at a decent pace (20-25 over) and it was both spirited and felt safe. I had the little one riding pillion and Roy and Kevin were more then generous in making her feel welcome, although it must be said that she does pretty good for an 8-yr-old (old man's bragging rights ;) Had a good pretty lunch at Wilkerson's in CB although it pales in comparison to Cap'n Billy's way over the water in Maryland. Good ride though. Kevin and Roy know some very neat roads I'd never been on before. So what about the rest of you slackers? OK, Tom and Jeannette had an excuse (Congrats you guys - I love love stories :) Did _anyone_ ride on Sunday? Why don't I think so? :^P Anyways y'all, you missed a nice ride. Hey, for that matter, did anyone do like I did, and play hookey and ride today? -- John Kozyn (D-mode) "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" - K. Marx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 22:48:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA17230; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA03543; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:48:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA21482; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:48:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-153-2.s2.as6.abr.erols.com [207.172.153.2]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA10489; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:47:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <014b01bd4bd6$915fc860$0299accf@default> Reply-To: "Mr. Bill" From: "Mr. Bill" To: "DMoody8850" , , Cc: , , "balt-cycles" Subject: Re: EXUP Re: Dunlop D 204 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:41:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 cf == Collin T. Fagan writes: cf> I was getting 2k per rear and 4k per front on the 204 in street cf> compound... With the Azarros, I got about 500 miles more out cf> of the front, but about 3000 more miles out of the rear. dm == DMoody8850 replies: dm> You must be hard on your tires. I have 3900 miles on my 204's and dm> they still have at least 1000 miles left in them if not more. To merely say Collin rides his Gixer hard is being very generous... stuff of legends on the dc-cycles list... :-) Mr. Bill -- DoD #0224, UB #8, MS #2 Ubi non accusator, ibi non judex denizen@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 23:59:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA17961; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA03907; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:58:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23024; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:58:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA13643; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:54:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:49:09 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: F650ST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, George Howell wrote: > Oh, and the sucker wheelies easier and better than any BMW that I've > ridden. The same technique that gets me four or five inches on the R850R > gives about 15 inches on the F650. For some reason, my father didn't seem > pleased to hear that:) C'mon George,everyone knows shafties can't wheelie. ;-) > My father summed it up like this "That bike is what motorcycling is > all about." He's never been that enthusiastic about something in the 25 > years I've known him:) Thumpers are cool.Tell your dad now he has to join the National Four Stroke Singles Assoc. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 00:54:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA18993; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04965; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA23990; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.76.107]) by mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA19449 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:53:50 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: How about that Daytona 200?! Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:50:07 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4be8$61920fa0$LocalHost@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 David-- Yup, I saw it. Didn't come in 'til after Miguel crashed out, so mostly watched Russell ride around. The VR1000 was the victim of a massive right-wing conspiracy. Or is that a Gold Wing conspiracy? I can never remember. I sure wish they'dve shown some racing instead of just Russell. I know the winner's sponsors deserve lotsa camera time, but what about all the people who turn off the set 'cause the race is so boring? I dunno, maybe enough people will sit there and watch a bunch of nothing that the network can pay the bills. I did. Did you notice that Devin Battley had his name mentioned more than anyone who wasn't in the top 5, except maybe Oliver? He must have been buying drinks for Ienatch the night before... Later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 02:13:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA19623; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA05350; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:12:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA25411; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA14530; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:08:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:01:24 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Daytona 200 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, P. BENSON wrote: > Alas, I watched. As a Harley racefan, it gets tiring after a while. > Seems that with all the cash HD can find for other purposes, they just > can't figure out how to make a rear axle that'll allow a tire change. Heh.Harley is going to be tying up all their spare cash paying for Buell warranty claims now that they own the company(did I mention I just got *another* recall notice in the mail :-P). > Sigh. Pascal deserves better. On a happier note, maybe in the rest of > the season things will get better, since Daytona is the only AMA race > requiring a pit stop. He's shown that he can run with the name riders, > and the VR finally was able to put out enough power that it wasn't > automatic for other bikes to get a pass on the high banking or long > straights. Time will tell. Harley needs to stop screwing around and either dump the VR program (and save face) or really start supporting it the way it should be. A real pit crew would be a good start.Getting DuHamel back in the saddle would be another.I also hate to say it,but they might want to think of putting the VR motor in a Buell frame(just don't let Buell do the building).Two of the VR's biggest probs are weight and hp.The Buell frame would fix both by eliminating the need for the counterbalancer system in the motor.This would free up some extra ponies and save weight with both the lighter frame and fewer engine parts. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 08:03:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA22530; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:03:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA06755; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:03:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA01824; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA04247 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:03:33 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:03:33 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:05:47 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 13 TEXT >I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are engaged to be married!! That's GREAT for you, but what about the rest of us??? ;-) Seriously, though, I wish you both the best and I'm glad that Jeanette had the good taste to select a fellow biker. So now we gotta go and find a stretched white GoldWing... Michael J. '93 GSX 1100GP '86 SRX-6 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 08:07:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA22587; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:07:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA06794; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:07:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA01885; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA04437 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:07:31 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:07:31 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: VF list Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:09:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 10 TEXT Do any of you VF types out there have the subscription address for the VF mailing list? My elder son, Sean, just got his first scooter last Saturday (a VERY clean '83 750 Interceptor w/39K miles) and I know he would appreciate this source of info. Michael J. '93 GSX 1100GP '86 SRX-6 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 08:28:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA22772; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:28:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA07106; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:28:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02311; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id AFE6D9021A; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:28:06 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980310082835.009c1b10@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:28:35 -0500 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: A note of thanks! (very, very long) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are >engaged to be married!! We went out Saturday searching for our diamond >and we found it. Now we're just waiting on the setting. I asked for >her parents permission Saturday evening and they happily said yes. When >I finally pick up the ring, I will propose to her( I wanted to have it >with me of course)! We are to be married on March 27th, 1999. We can >hardly wait!! Congratulations Tom and Jeannette! Say, will you be needing a motorcycle escort for your wedding? or a sidecar rig for bringing in the bride? :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 08:58:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23073; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA07371; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:58:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02911; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id HAA29126; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:54:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA12518; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980310135422.NDXD27160@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:54:22 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:53 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Tom Zell CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'jlobrien@XXXXXX'" , "'zellto@XXXXXX'" , "'zellto@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: A note of thanks! (very, very long) X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980310135422.NDXD27160@[166.41.242.141]> >Hi folks! I have recently come to a very joyous point in my life and I >thought I might share it with all of you because without you all and the >list, this might not have happened. Please read on! And Kevin... >please bare with me as you've already heard this one... >Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are >engaged to be married!! Congratulations you crazy kids! As I played hookie yesterday afternoon, and didn't bring home my pc, I wasn't on list. Linda Tanner called me last night and told me the good news. So was it the nipple ring that tipped the scale? Spring in the air? Ah..who cares, congratulations and good fortune. Todd +-----------------------------+---------------+ | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | +-----------------------------+---------------+ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 09:16:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23218; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA07630; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ngedns.northgrum.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03353; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:16:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from xcgny003.northgrum.com ([132.228.123.161]) by ngedns.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA29365 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 06:13:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by XCGNY003 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:17:03 -0500 Message-ID: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF541@xcgva001.grumman.com> From: "Meier, Christopher" To: "'dc-cycles'" Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:12:44 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Congrats!!! Hmmm. Let's see here ... Bachelor Party = Crow Bar Rehearsal dinner = Payne's Reception = ??? Congrats and Best Wishes to you both. --chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Christopher A. Meier meierch@XXXXXX Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA 1994 RF900R AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ > ---------- > From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 5:38 PM > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Cc: 'jlobrien@XXXXXX'; 'zellto@XXXXXX'; > 'zellto@XXXXXX' > Subject: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > --snip-- > Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are > engaged to be married!! We went out Saturday searching for our > diamond --snip-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 09:40:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23512; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA08602; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:40:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03991; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA00118; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA30695; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:39:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.41.110.172]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980310143905.SFIM4928@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:39:05 -0500 From: "Linda Tanner" To: "'Tom Zell'" , Cc: Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:38:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Message-Id: <19980310143905.SFIM4928@LJTanner.mcit.com> Mazeltov!!! Best wishes to both of youse. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:03:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23958; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:03:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09213; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04786; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA28957; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:02:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA00010; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:02:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980310150257.NLPK27160@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:02:57 -0600 Message-ID: <35055623.1E692B0D@mci.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:02:59 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Zell CC: "Jeannette O'Brien" , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: A note of thanks! (very, very long) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom, Err, uh, hmm, what to say, what to say... How about, "Congratulations on the bike!" :-) Or maybe, "I hope the old ball-and-chain-to-be doesn't make you give up motorcycles!" :-) Ok, ok, I'm kidding! Congrats you guys! I hope we are invited to the wedding. We'll all wear our best leathers! Best wishes, Dale (the Horkster) Tom Zell wrote: > > > Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are > engaged to be married!! ... and yes... romance and love are still live in the world > today... sometimes you really have to look for it to find it! > > -Tom Zell > '86 VFR700/750F > > -Jeanette O'brien > '85 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:04:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23986; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09253; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:04:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04832; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA26512; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:03:15 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C15CE@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , Tom Zell Cc: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , DC Cycles List Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:04:30 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain You are SO BAD!! This ball & chain intends to keep her bike & INSIST on us getting new ones every few years!! (anniversary gifts)? ; ) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:03 AM > To: Tom Zell > Cc: Jeannette O'Brien; DC Cycles List > Subject: Re: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > Tom, > > Err, uh, hmm, what to say, what to say... > > > How about, "Congratulations on the bike!" :-) > > Or maybe, "I hope the old ball-and-chain-to-be doesn't make you > give up motorcycles!" :-) > > Ok, ok, I'm kidding! Congrats you guys! I hope we are > invited to the wedding. We'll all wear our best leathers! > > Best wishes, > > Dale (the Horkster) > > > > > Tom Zell wrote: > > > > > > Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I > are > > engaged to be married!! ... and yes... romance and love are > still live in the world > > today... sometimes you really have to look for it to find it! > > > > -Tom Zell > > '86 VFR700/750F > > > > -Jeanette O'brien > > '85 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:07:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24050; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09430; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04902; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4C0B.9874BAE0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:02:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:02:11 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's my Babe a! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:05 AM >To: Tom Zell; 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX' >Cc: O'Brien, Jeannette; DC Cycles List >Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > >You are SO BAD!! This ball & chain intends to keep her bike & INSIST on >us getting new ones every few years!! >(anniversary gifts)? ; ) > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:03 AM >> To: Tom Zell >> Cc: Jeannette O'Brien; DC Cycles List >> Subject: Re: A note of thanks! (very, very long) >> >> Tom, >> >> Err, uh, hmm, what to say, what to say... >> >> >> How about, "Congratulations on the bike!" :-) >> >> Or maybe, "I hope the old ball-and-chain-to-be doesn't make you >> give up motorcycles!" :-) >> >> Ok, ok, I'm kidding! Congrats you guys! I hope we are >> invited to the wedding. We'll all wear our best leathers! >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Dale (the Horkster) >> >> >> >> >> Tom Zell wrote: >> > >> > >> > Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I >> are >> > engaged to be married!! ... and yes... romance and love are >> still live in the world >> > today... sometimes you really have to look for it to find it! >> > >> > -Tom Zell >> > '86 VFR700/750F >> > >> > -Jeanette O'brien >> > '85 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:22:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24218; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09868; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:22:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05191; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA06703; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:29:38 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'Tom Zell'" Cc: "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:23:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Get A Room! ---------- From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:02 AM To: 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX' Cc: 'DC Cycles List' Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) That's my Babe a! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:05 AM >To: Tom Zell; 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX' >Cc: O'Brien, Jeannette; DC Cycles List >Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > >You are SO BAD!! This ball & chain intends to keep her bike & INSIST on >us getting new ones every few years!! >(anniversary gifts)? ; ) > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:03 AM >> To: Tom Zell >> Cc: Jeannette O'Brien; DC Cycles List >> Subject: Re: A note of thanks! (very, very long) >> >> Tom, >> >> Err, uh, hmm, what to say, what to say... >> >> >> How about, "Congratulations on the bike!" :-) >> >> Or maybe, "I hope the old ball-and-chain-to-be doesn't make you >> give up motorcycles!" :-) >> >> Ok, ok, I'm kidding! Congrats you guys! I hope we are >> invited to the wedding. We'll all wear our best leathers! >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Dale (the Horkster) >> >> >> >> >> Tom Zell wrote: >> > >> > >> > Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I >> are >> > engaged to be married!! ... and yes... romance and love are >> still live in the world >> > today... sometimes you really have to look for it to find it! >> > >> > -Tom Zell >> > '86 VFR700/750F >> > >> > -Jeanette O'brien >> > '85 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:33:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24672; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10262; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.greennet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05854; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from balingwire ([208.192.4.61]) by mail.greennet.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-34567U2500L250S0) with SMTP id AAC127; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:31 -0500 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: ade@XXXXXX (Andrew Evans) To: , , , Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Avon Azaros falling apart Priority: normal In-reply-to: <014b01bd4bd6$915fc860$0299accf@default> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Message-ID: <19980310153327120.AAC127@balingwire> This is the post that people have been referring to when they say that Azaros fly apart. Thought you DC and Baltimore folks might be interested. Reply to me directly if you want -- I'm not on either of these lists. ------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 13:45:11 -0800 From: Patrick Burns Organization: Factory Pro Tuning To: "exup-brotherhood@XXXXXX" Subject: EXUP Avon Azaros (grumble, grumble) Send reply to: Patrick Burns This is the _third_ Avon Azaro that chunked on our dyno. Was running a ZX9, keeping the surface temp under 150 degrees F (monitored with an infrared thermometer), had it inflated to 45psi to reduce carcass flex and head buildup in accordance with an Avon tech's suggestions, and it still blew chunks all over the room on the 11k rpm step test... while the owner watched. Thankfully, the tires were already toast and he was planning on mounting a new set of 207 street tires after we finished up with the jetting, so he got a kick out of it instead of getting upset. They might be neat tires to ride on, but I sure wouldn't mount a set on a big hp bike that was going to be running lots of mph. -- Patrick Burns Factory Pro Tuning patburns@XXXXXX http://www.factorypro.com -- Andrew Evans From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:33:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24681; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10297; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05874; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA05627; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:31:59 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C15D4@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: DC-Cycles list Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:15 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last weekend? Curtis? Still wanna lead? - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:41:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24788; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:41:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10648; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:41:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06089; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:41:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA17412; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA20709; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:40:38 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA20705; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:40:37 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4BF7.CFCD5E70@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:40:35 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:35:58 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 13 TEXT, 47 UUENCODE X-MS-Attachment: WINMAIL.DAT 0 00-00-1980 00:00 Hi guys, Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be appreciated. Thanks!! 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M%/!A+'-H%1$?$&XO4$1##PO4&_0O@P'0,BTT,4 V+38U M,S0@("HQ("!&87@SHQLP,RV0.3 Y-31S4$,%\#1P:!S2-QJ@-" R-/@M,3,: MH!H!#E ,,A/B_',T,N89QR\@#$ "T1KT"QOD%;$`.N ````+``(``0```!X` M< `!````&@```$YO;BUM;W1O(')E;&%T960Z(%!I`#T``0````$````` M````"P`I```````+`",```````(!?P`!````3P```#QC/553)6$]051434%) M3"5P/4%45"5L/4A114Y'7TU31S R+3DX,#,Q,#$U,S4U.%HM,S9 :'$M;7-G 7,#$N;G=E; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:41:00 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'DC-Cycles list'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:36:21 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 19 TEXT Count me in! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 7:33 AM >To: DC-Cycles list >Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! >Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last >weekend? >Curtis? Still wanna lead? > >- Jeannette > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:42:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24805; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10665; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:41:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06115; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:41:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA08156; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:40:20 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C15D9@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "O'Brien, Jeannette" , DC-Cycles list Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:41:35 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Cool! Same place - Krispy Kreme - same time - what was it? 11?? - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:43 AM > To: O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles list > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > If its nice out I lead. > > Glenn Dysart > dysart@XXXXXX > > 84 V30 Magna > > > > I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! > > Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last > > weekend? > > Curtis? Still wanna lead? > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:54:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24953; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:54:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10895; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:54:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06500; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA07015; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:01:36 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'DC-Cycles list'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:55:18 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do-Nut shop? Is it going to be cold? I am a skiny boy you know. And I don't know If I can get my bike started in the cold. Curtis ---------- From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:33 AM To: DC-Cycles list Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last weekend? Curtis? Still wanna lead? - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:55:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24999; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:55:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10927; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:55:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06543; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:55:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA12547; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:54:00 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E665A@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'DC-Cycles list'" , "O'Brien, Jeannette" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:55:15 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain We'll stuff you full of donuts, doll!! Glenn said he'd lead, so if ya don't mind following Glenn, it looks like we have a leader! YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW RR!! It will start in the cold, smart alleck!! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM > To: 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > Do-Nut shop? Is it going to be cold? I am a skiny boy you know. And I > don't know If I can get my bike started in the cold. > Curtis > > ---------- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:33 AM > To: DC-Cycles list > Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! > Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last > weekend? > Curtis? Still wanna lead? > > - Jeannette > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:00:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25180; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:00:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11060; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:00:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06807; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:00:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA07073; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:07:57 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'DC-Cycles list'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:01:44 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Glenn, where do you plan to led us to? ---------- From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:42 AM To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles list Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Cool! Same place - Krispy Kreme - same time - what was it? 11?? - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:43 AM > To: O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles list > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > If its nice out I lead. > > Glenn Dysart > dysart@XXXXXX > > 84 V30 Magna > > > > I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! > > Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last > > weekend? > > Curtis? Still wanna lead? > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:03:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25269; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:03:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11133; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06914; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA22017; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:03:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA25469; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:03:06 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA25459; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:03:04 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4BFA.F2871C50@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:03:01 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'DC-Cycles list'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:58:21 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 30 TEXT Is this the same Ninja 500 you wanted to see me??? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 7:55 AM >To: 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >Do-Nut shop? Is it going to be cold? I am a skiny boy you know. And I >don't know If I can get my bike started in the cold. >Curtis > >---------- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:33 AM >To: DC-Cycles list >Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! >Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last >weekend? >Curtis? Still wanna lead? > >- Jeannette > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:04:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25289; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:04:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11143; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06930; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:04:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA14104; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:03:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA08865; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:03:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980310160347.TJCF4928@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:03:49 -0500 Message-ID: <35056464.A359423F@mci.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:03:48 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Viteri, Ursulina" CC: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Now moto related: Pistols References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Practice shooting with your left hand, this way you can still control the speed of your bike with your throttle hand while you are blasting away at the idiot cagers out there. :-) There. Now it's moto-related! Dale (the Horkster) PS: I don't think it's should be a crime to shoot someone who is using a cell phone in fast heavy traffic. Who's with me? :-) Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > > Hi guys, > > Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found > a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. > Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be > appreciated. > > Thanks!! > > Ursulina Viteri From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:12:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25450; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11364; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:12:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07276; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA17764; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:12:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:11:08 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6663@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "Viteri, Ursulina" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Now moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:12:23 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain How about someone reading the paper??!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:04 AM > To: Viteri, Ursulina > Cc: 'DC Cycles' > Subject: Re: Now moto related: Pistols > > Practice shooting with your left hand, > this way you can still control the speed > of your bike with your throttle hand while > you are blasting away at the idiot cagers > out there. :-) > > There. Now it's moto-related! > > > Dale (the Horkster) > > PS: I don't think it's should be a crime to > shoot someone who is using a cell phone in > fast heavy traffic. Who's with me? :-) > > > > Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother > found > > a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target > practice use. > > Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be > > appreciated. > > > > Thanks!! > > > > Ursulina Viteri From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:15:46 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25484; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:15:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11421; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07370; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:15:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA19181; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:14:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA21266; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:13:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980310161400.TMVP4928@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:14:00 -0500 Message-ID: <350566C9.AB56C1F@mci.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:14:01 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles List , KZ LTD List , VJMC List Subject: All is right with the world... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...since Horkster got to take a ride on his recently repaired scoot (the 78 Kawi 1000 LTD). (Actually, I got it running on Saturday, (Re: front sprocket nut) and took a brief shakedown cruise, but the rainy weather Sunday and early Monday morning prevented a real ride until after work on Monday.) It was probably around still 60 degrees when I set out on my ride at 9:00 pm. (Well, I had to put the kids to bed first, bedtime stories and all!) Although the weather was cloudy and breezy and threatening rain, it was a perfect night for a ride, as far as I was concerned. I was in one of those mind sets where I desperately NEEDED to go ride, I had been without my bike for nearly two weeks awaiting parts, I was a junkie who needed my fix. Anyway, got to do about 75 miles down around Stafford, VA via backroads and nice smooth main roads before bedtime. Saw one deer crossing the road, (no danger, the cage in front of me had already stopped for it) and later on, what appeared to be a small black bear shuffling along the road near the woods closer to Stafford. I didn't get a good look, black fur doesn't reflect much from a 20 year old headlight, and I didn't stop to get a closer look. Still rather exciting nonetheless. The best part was as I was heading home, for a brief few minutes, all the clouds parted, the whole way across the sky, and everything was bathed in beautiful moonlight. I had to pull over and stargaze for a few moments (I was several miles from the bear at this point!). All in all, it was a wonderful ride, and a wonderful evening. Take care, Dale (the Horkster) 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 PS: Thanks again for everyone who emailed repair suggestions and answered my questions regarding the LTD. Much appreciated! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:16:08 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25489; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11430; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:16:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07382; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:16:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA25255; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA28610; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:15:26 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA28598; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:15:23 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4BFC.AA668850@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:15:19 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'Viteri, Ursulina'" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Now moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:10:23 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 42 TEXT Sorry, but cell phones are my bread and butter. Use them, but use them wisely. Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 8:04 AM >To: Viteri, Ursulina >Cc: 'DC Cycles' >Subject: Re: Now moto related: Pistols > >Practice shooting with your left hand, >this way you can still control the speed >of your bike with your throttle hand while >you are blasting away at the idiot cagers >out there. :-) > >There. Now it's moto-related! > > >Dale (the Horkster) > >PS: I don't think it's should be a crime to >shoot someone who is using a cell phone in >fast heavy traffic. Who's with me? :-) > > > >Viteri, Ursulina wrote: >> >> Hi guys, >> >> Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found >> a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. >> Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks!! >> >> Ursulina Viteri From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:18:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25525; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11467; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:18:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07468; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA06921; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:17:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA23513; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:17:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980310161759.TOFJ4928@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:17:59 -0500 Message-ID: <350567B8.986F1287@mci.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:18:00 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" CC: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Now moto related: Pistols References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6663@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!...and one more for good measure... BLAM! Just doing my civic duty! :-) Dale (the Horkster) O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > > How about someone reading the paper??!! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:04 AM > > To: Viteri, Ursulina > > Cc: 'DC Cycles' > > Subject: Re: Now moto related: Pistols > > > > Practice shooting with your left hand, > > this way you can still control the speed > > of your bike with your throttle hand while > > you are blasting away at the idiot cagers > > out there. :-) > > > > There. Now it's moto-related! > > > > > > Dale (the Horkster) > > > > PS: I don't think it's should be a crime to > > shoot someone who is using a cell phone in > > fast heavy traffic. Who's with me? :-) > > > > > > > > Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother > > found > > > a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target > > practice use. > > > Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be > > > appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks!! > > > > > > Ursulina Viteri From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:31:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25826; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:31:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11872; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08268; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4C17.56532410@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:26:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'DC-Cycles list'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:26:13 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And if you can't start... I definitley can... which means I get to ride it! Where do you live??? I'll be there first light Sunday morning! LOL! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'DC-Cycles list'; O'Brien, Jeannette >Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >We'll stuff you full of donuts, doll!! >Glenn said he'd lead, so if ya don't mind following Glenn, it looks like >we have a leader! >YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW RR!! It will start in the cold, smart alleck!! > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >> To: 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >> >> Do-Nut shop? Is it going to be cold? I am a skiny boy you know. And I >> don't know If I can get my bike started in the cold. >> Curtis >> >> ---------- >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:33 AM >> To: DC-Cycles list >> Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >> >> I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! >> Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last >> weekend? >> Curtis? Still wanna lead? >> >> - Jeannette >> >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:35:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25956; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11916; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:34:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08469; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:34:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id LAA29789; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:34:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma029777; Tue, 10 Mar 98 11:34:49 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Now moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:11 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Wisely = not when your vehicle is moving... whenever I hear one of those industry PSAs I wish they would just come out and say that. --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: Viteri, Ursulina [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:10 AM > To: 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'; 'Viteri, Ursulina' > Cc: 'DC Cycles' > Subject: RE: Now moto related: Pistols > > Sorry, but cell phones are my bread and butter. Use them, but use > them > wisely. > > Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC > 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 8:04 AM > >To: Viteri, Ursulina > >Cc: 'DC Cycles' > >Subject: Re: Now moto related: Pistols > > > >Practice shooting with your left hand, > >this way you can still control the speed > >of your bike with your throttle hand while > >you are blasting away at the idiot cagers > >out there. :-) > > > >There. Now it's moto-related! > > > > > >Dale (the Horkster) > > > >PS: I don't think it's should be a crime to > >shoot someone who is using a cell phone in > >fast heavy traffic. Who's with me? :-) > > > > > > > >Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > >> > >> Hi guys, > >> > >> Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My > brother found > >> a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target > practice use. > >> Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be > >> appreciated. > >> > >> Thanks!! > >> > >> Ursulina Viteri From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:35:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25961; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11939; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08479; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA07418; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:42:23 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'DC-Cycles list'" , "'Tom Zell'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:38 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is LOL? ---------- From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:26 AM To: Clements, Curtis A; 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'DC-Cycles list' Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) And if you can't start... I definitley can... which means I get to ride it! Where do you live??? I'll be there first light Sunday morning! LOL! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'DC-Cycles list'; O'Brien, Jeannette >Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >We'll stuff you full of donuts, doll!! >Glenn said he'd lead, so if ya don't mind following Glenn, it looks like >we have a leader! >YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW RR!! It will start in the cold, smart alleck!! > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >> To: 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >> >> Do-Nut shop? Is it going to be cold? I am a skiny boy you know. And I >> don't know If I can get my bike started in the cold. >> Curtis >> >> ---------- >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:33 AM >> To: DC-Cycles list >> Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >> >> I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! >> Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last >> weekend? >> Curtis? Still wanna lead? >> >> - Jeannette >> >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:37:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26012; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11975; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08626; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4C18.18702250@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:31:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'DC-Cycles list'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:31:39 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laughing Out Loud.... LOL! How do you like that new RR anyway?? -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:36 AM >To: Tom Zell; 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'DC-Cycles list' >Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >What is LOL? > >---------- >From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:26 AM >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'DC-Cycles list' >Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >And if you can't start... I definitley can... which means I get to ride >it! Where do you live??? I'll be there first light Sunday morning! >LOL! > >-Tom > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >>To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'DC-Cycles list'; O'Brien, Jeannette >>Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >> >>We'll stuff you full of donuts, doll!! >>Glenn said he'd lead, so if ya don't mind following Glenn, it looks like >>we have a leader! >>YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW RR!! It will start in the cold, smart alleck!! >> >>- Jeannette >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >>> To: 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >>> Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >>> >>> Do-Nut shop? Is it going to be cold? I am a skiny boy you know. And I >>> don't know If I can get my bike started in the cold. >>> Curtis >>> >>> ---------- >>> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:33 AM >>> To: DC-Cycles list >>> Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >>> >>> I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! >>> Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last >>> weekend? >>> Curtis? Still wanna lead? >>> >>> - Jeannette >>> >>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:59:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26389; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:59:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA12251; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA09273; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:59:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA07657; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:06:44 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'DC-Cycles list'" , "'Tom Zell'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:00:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Were are we going Sunday? ---------- From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:32 AM To: Clements, Curtis A; 'DC-Cycles list' Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Laughing Out Loud.... LOL! How do you like that new RR anyway?? -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:36 AM >To: Tom Zell; 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'DC-Cycles list' >Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >What is LOL? > >---------- >From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:26 AM >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'DC-Cycles list' >Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >And if you can't start... I definitley can... which means I get to ride >it! Where do you live??? I'll be there first light Sunday morning! >LOL! > >-Tom > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >>To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'DC-Cycles list'; O'Brien, Jeannette >>Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >> >>We'll stuff you full of donuts, doll!! >>Glenn said he'd lead, so if ya don't mind following Glenn, it looks like >>we have a leader! >>YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW RR!! It will start in the cold, smart alleck!! >> >>- Jeannette >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >>> To: 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >>> Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >>> >>> Do-Nut shop? Is it going to be cold? I am a skiny boy you know. And I >>> don't know If I can get my bike started in the cold. >>> Curtis >>> >>> ---------- >>> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:33 AM >>> To: DC-Cycles list >>> Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >>> >>> I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! >>> Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last >>> weekend? >>> Curtis? Still wanna lead? >>> >>> - Jeannette >>> >>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 12:10:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26703; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:10:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12388; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:10:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlt5.dlt.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA09799; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:09:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803101709.MAA09799@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: from ANITA by dlt5.dlt.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id F4V74LXF; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:19:01 -0500 X-Sender: anita@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:10:20 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Anita Lauro Subject: Alternate Sunday Ride? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Not trying to take away from the Krispy Kreme ride... but since the last few group rides I've been on seem to have covered the same roads, and since the starting point is about 40 not-very-fun miles from my house, I'm thinking of heading west this Sunday, rather than south-east. Maybe Western Loudoun/Fauquier Counties or West Virginia (or both)... don't know how far yet, depends on the weather. Might try out a route from Dale Coyner's book or a ride sheet off of the web. Anyhow, thought I'd post to the list in case there were some lurking "western suburb" riders who were looking to start out a little closer to home and explore some points west. Otherwise it'll just be me, a full tank of gas, and my cell phone! Thanks! Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 12:10:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26701; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:10:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12384; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:09:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA09774; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:09:54 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565C3.00595350 ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:15:40 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C3.0057719A.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:57:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=pmf5Cjeh5OC7FSL06gXtSHPi4PorSGn9457neuj2VHhHj1I3nu1ZBDWu" --0__=pmf5Cjeh5OC7FSL06gXtSHPi4PorSGn9457neuj2VHhHj1I3nu1ZBDWu Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'd be interested...BTW, that web site worked out well for me...I subscribe to this list from my work account (shhhh! don't tell :-o) but usually miss any last-minute ride changes. The web site came through...had the directions in hand, woke up on time...hmmm, what went wrong? ;-) -Doug douglas_brashear@XXXXXX (Embedded image moved "O'Brien, Jeannette" at to file: AMS-Internet PIC21105.PCX) 03/10/98 10:46 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL cc: Douglas Brashear Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last weekend? Curtis? 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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:33:02 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 6 TEXT >and since the starting point is about 40 not-very-fun miles from my house Anite, I know that song - west sounds good to me Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 12:55:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00523; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA13756; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:55:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from out2.ibm.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA15450; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:55:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-100-120-49.oh.us.ibm.net [32.100.120.49]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA99112; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:54:34 GMT Message-ID: <35057FA8.AB9AF855@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:00:09 -0500 From: "Robert W. Johnston" Reply-To: rjohns3@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Viteri, Ursulina" CC: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The P89 is a fair pistol. It will do groupings in the 1 to 2 inch range out of the box. I would reccommend a .45 cal. pistol over a 9mm any day of the week. The 9mm was designed for combat usage, and as such was optimized for wounding, rather than killing. The .45 has the largest wound path, and the greatest hydrostatic shock of all of the common and inexpensive lead bullets. This opinion is grounded in the imfamous swedish goat test of the 70s... I would reccommend a .22 lr pistol as your general practice piece. I use a Colt Woodsman for general practice and either my 45. Long Colt single action, or my .32 auto Beretta for concealed carry. Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > Hi guys, > > Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found > a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. > Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be > appreciated. > > Thanks!! > > Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC > 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > > Name: WINMAIL.DAT > WINMAIL.DAT Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) > Encoding: x-uuencode From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 13:59:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA05857; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA14255; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA22814; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id NAA10630; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:57:44 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6686@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "Clements, Curtis A" , "'DC-Cycles list'" , "O'Brien, Jeannette" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:58:59 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I guess whatever anyone wants. Hey, babe, I did a 7-hour ride one day!! You're forgetting, I was scared to do long rides when I first started, not now!! What does everyone think time-wise? I'll get up semi-early for donuts! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 2:01 PM > To: Clements, Curtis A; 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > I don't know, how far can you go? Your the light weight who doesn't > like to > go very far :-). Can we make it any earlier then 11:00? That's late > for me > and I usually party hardy on Saturday nights. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:02 AM > > To: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN; 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, > Jeannette' > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > Glenn, where do you plan to led us to? > > > > ---------- > > From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:42 AM > > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles > list > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > Cool! Same place - Krispy Kreme - same time - what was it? 11?? > > > > - Jeannette > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:43 AM > > > To: O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles list > > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > > > If its nice out I lead. > > > > > > Glenn Dysart > > > dysart@XXXXXX > > > > > > 84 V30 Magna > > > > > > > > > > I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain > again! > > > > Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last > > > > weekend? > > > > Curtis? Still wanna lead? > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 14:49:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06835; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:49:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14689; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.emeraldcoast.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA24504; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.49.47.131] by www.destin.net (NTMail 3.03.0014/7.aaik) with ESMTP id ca035882 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:57:07 -0600 Message-ID: <025101bd4c5c$d6a06520$832f31cc@saturn.onyxgroup.com> Reply-To: "Pete Slatcoff" From: "Pete Slatcoff" To: , "Viteri, Ursulina" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:35:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 If you are serious about your hand gun let me recommend a .50 cal Dessert Eagle. -----Original Message----- From: Robert W. Johnston To: Viteri, Ursulina Cc: 'DC Cycles' Date: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 12:19 PM Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols >The P89 is a fair pistol. It will do groupings in the 1 to 2 inch range out >of the box. I would reccommend a .45 cal. pistol over a 9mm any day of the >week. The 9mm was designed for combat usage, and as such was optimized for >wounding, rather than killing. The .45 has the largest wound path, and the >greatest hydrostatic shock of all of the common and inexpensive lead bullets. >This opinion is grounded in the imfamous swedish goat test of the 70s... > >I would reccommend a .22 lr pistol as your general practice piece. I use a >Colt Woodsman for general practice and either my 45. Long Colt single action, >or my .32 auto Beretta for concealed carry. > >Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found >> a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. >> Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks!! >> >> Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >> 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >> >> Name: WINMAIL.DAT >> WINMAIL.DAT Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) >> Encoding: x-uuencode > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 14:51:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06910; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14717; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:51:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA24714; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A9A41CD055A; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:51:00 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980310134841.009e9c50@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:48:41 -0500 To: "'DC Cycles'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:35 AM 3/10/98 -0800, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: >Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found >a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. > Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be >appreciated. Well, I know that Ruger discriminates against motorcyclists, or used to - the AMA had a number of articles about Ruger discriminatory health insurance for their employees. I can't recall many details now, but part had to do with blaming the motorcyclist/employee for all accidents and denying health insurance, no matter who caused the accident. Helmet use, not required in New Hampshire, was also an issue. The AMA pointed out that it was pretty hypocritical of Ruger to sell firearms, with their accompanying personal responsibility and death toll, and then to discriminate against bikers obeying the law. The AMA pointed out that drunken car drivers hurting themselves in wrecks (and breaking laws in the process) were covered by Ruger health insurance, but law-abiding motorcyclists were not. The AMA tried to enter into dialogue with Ruger, who agreed to meet and then told the AMA to fuck off. Ruger may make good guns, but they don't think much of people. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 14:57:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA07003; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14793; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA24883; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4C34.A254AAB0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:55:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:55:56 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 23 TEXT Man, Jeanette & Tom getting married, Ursulina with guns - what's become of this list? ---------- From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:35 AM To: 'DC Cycles' Subject: Non-moto related: Pistols Hi guys, Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be appreciated. Thanks!! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:05:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07259; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:05:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15175; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:05:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA25239; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:05:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4C35.BA57B610@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:03:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Cc: , , Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:03:46 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 135 TEXT Soon-to-be-another-married-bike-couple, I'm so happy for the both of you! Although Dale and I kid a lot (we dated 6 years before marrying and we've been married 5 years), we still love each other the way you two must feel now. (Tracy now wrestles keyboard from evil, mushy twin.....) I love the idea of the stretch white Gold Wing......Wish you many years of riding and loving.... Tracy ---------- From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 5:38 PM To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Cc: 'jlobrien@XXXXXX'; 'zellto@XXXXXX'; 'zellto@XXXXXX' Subject: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Hi folks! I have recently come to a very joyous point in my life and I thought I might share it with all of you because without you all and the list, this might not have happened. Please read on! And Kevin... please bare with me as you've already heard this one... About three and a half months ago I came across a post on the VF/VFR list that Jeannette had sent in regards to finding fellow riders in the D.C. area. She said that she had just purchased her VF500 and was looking for people to ride with. Well, I tried responding back to her through her personal email address and the VF/VFR list. Unfortunately, I did not get a reply back that afternoon so I posted to the VF/VFR list again trying to find her. I finally got a reply back right before Thanksgiving. We got to talking a little by email and had somewhat sorta made plans to meet up for a group ride with her friends on the following Monday. She had also told me about finding local riders through the DC-Cycles list. Well, as luck would have it, I had to work as usual and because of my responsibilities I couldn't take the day off. I was also seeing someone at the time and out of respect for the other person I bowed out. I knew that if I met Jeannette I would end up going out with her. It was just one of those feelings. Now fast-forward about two months.....It was the middle of January and I was finally starting to get over the flu. My interest in my pc and the VFR had started to perk up again so I decided to start checking out the internet for parts and such. Andrew Reveles(from the VFR list)was just finishing his Project Phoenix VFR so I was getting psyched. I needed(and still need) to find an F2 front wheel to complete the suspension conversion on the VFR. It was then that I came across the DC-Cycles list. I had remembered Jeannette giving me information about the list when we talked before so I decided to join and see if I could get some help finding stuff. I saw a few posts from Jeannette and the interest was sparked again. At about the same time Leon was setting up his Lean Angles contest/get together out at the Prince William Cnty Pkwy park&ride lot. My VFR was down at the time(waiting for the wheel) but I decided to show up anyway to come out and meet everyone. Most of all I wanted to meet Jeannette. I was still seeing that same person(things were not working out, however) but there was a feeling that I had that I just had to act upon. I finally got to meet her and basically we hit it off from the start. After talking with her and Collin for a while(I did meet everyone who showed) everyone decided on lunch. We ended up at Bob Evans and I was fortunate enough to sit next to her for the time that we were there. At first we were chatting with everyone at the table making the usual conversations, but then we just started talking with each other. I even shared part of my lunch with her. We then got onto the subject of Titanic. I explained some of my views on it and asked her if she had seen it. When I found that she had not, I told her that I would be glad to see it again if she wanted to go. She told me that she would like to and I left it at that. We also managed to exchange our interests in body piercing's, my nipple, her navel. Things were rolling along quite nicely!! We finished eating and everyone decided to part. Jeannette, Collin, my friend Lenzy, and myself decided to hang out in the parking lot for a while longer. We talked on about a number of subjects. Anything was good for me because I just wasn't ready to say goodbye. Jeannette did manage to talk me into putting the VFR back together so I could come out with it for Lean Angles part 2. We said our good-byes and left. All the way home, the only thing I could do was talk about Jeannette. I must have talked my friend's ear off. I got home and started working on the bike. Three hours later my brother and I (and my Pit Bull, Zeus) were pulling the VFR through the mud in my backyard. I got the bike cleaned off and had it ready for the morning. I got to the park and ride and the only people there were Ursulina, Collin and his wife Penny, and Leon with his daughter. No Jeannette!!! I was bummed but I figured there was a reason. So we shoot ahead to later that night. I was on the phone with Lenzy and I got this strange page. I instantly knew it was Jeannette so I hung up with him and called her right back. I talked to her for a few minutes and finalized plans to see Titanic that Tuesday. I was very, very happy! I picked up Jeannette to see Titanic and we were off. It was so nice seeing the movie with her and by the end of the evening I knew I was falling for her. I took her back to her house and after hours of standing in the rain talking and such I decided it was time to go... but not without a kiss. I caressed her face in my hands and kissed her. I swear you could have heard a pin drop. I felt the earth move and at that moment I knew that fate had finally brought me to my soulmate. I had never felt anything like that before in my life and according to her the feeling was mutual. The following weekend we spent the whole time together. I was in heaven! Now we shoot ahead again to Valentine's weekend. We had a nice long weekend together, and to make things plain and simple, we professed our love to one another. It was really fast in the making, but we both knew it was meant to be! Finally, I had found the love that I had been searching for all my life and she the same. Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are engaged to be married!! We went out Saturday searching for our diamond and we found it. Now we're just waiting on the setting. I asked for her parents permission Saturday evening and they happily said yes. When I finally pick up the ring, I will propose to her( I wanted to have it with me of course)! We are to be married on March 27th, 1999. We can hardly wait!! Jeanette and I would like to extend our thanks to you all on the DC-Cycles list and the VF/VFR list for without them we may never had met one another... and yes... romance and love are still alive in the world today... sometimes you really have to look for it to find it! -Tom Zell '86 VFR700/750F -Jeanette O'brien '85 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:07:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07302; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:07:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15270; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:07:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA25300; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:07:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.34.240.12] (1Cust12.tnt1.tco2.da.uu.net [153.34.240.12]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24985 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:07:21 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:06:25 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) >>I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are engaged to be married!! > >That's GREAT for you, but what about the rest of us??? ;-) > >Seriously, though, I wish you both the best and I'm glad that Jeanette >had the good taste to select a fellow biker. > >So now we gotta go and find a stretched white GoldWing... [Sean Penn/Ridgemont High voice] My dad's got an awesome set of tools dude.... Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:18:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07630; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:18:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15453; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:18:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from drquest.digex.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA25838; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:18:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.17.2.20 (pix000140.staff.digex.net [206.205.168.152]) by drquest.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA11453; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:18:19 -0500 X-Mailer: InterCon tcpCONNECT4 4.0.2 (Macintosh) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9803101520.AA22466@172.17.2.20> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:20:22 -0500 From: "Matt Elliott - DIGEX" To: Chris Norloff , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: Inline > At 07:35 AM 3/10/98 -0800, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > >Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My > >brother found a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it > >for target practice use. > > Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be > >appreciated. For those who discriminate against Ruger, another excellent choice for a 9MM would be a Browning Hi-Power. ($400-$500 in gun shops) Smooth gun, not too expensive to crank out 50 rounds or so. I agree with (I forget who), buy a .22 caliber for practice - you can blow out 500 .22 rounds for the cost of 50 9MM rounds. This is turning into the dc-cycles-shooters mailing list ;-) Riding and shooting, my two favorite pastimes... (I'm from the boonies of Western PA, where we had a lot of woods to shoot around in..) Matt 95 Nighthawk 750 Browning Hi-Power Ruger Mark II .22 Ithaca Model 37 20 ga Winchester 69 .22 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:25:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07770; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15559; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26161; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:25:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id MAA29782; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:24:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id MAA10682; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:24:31 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id MAA10625; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:24:26 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4C1F.746316B0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:24:21 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:18:29 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 34 TEXT I know, I know. Weird, huh? Must be spring time. BTW: My mom keeps wondering why I'm trying to be like a boy. Hardly!!! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX [SMTP:tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:56 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols > >Man, Jeanette & Tom getting married, Ursulina with guns - what's become of >this list? > >---------- >From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:35 AM >To: 'DC Cycles' >Subject: Non-moto related: Pistols > >Hi guys, > >Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found a >good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. Any >comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be appreciated. > >Thanks!! > >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:36:24 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08285; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15978; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:36:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26932; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:36:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA26787 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:36:04 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:36:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:38:19 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 28 TEXT >This is turning into the dc-cycles-shooters mailing list ;-) Riding and >shooting, my two favorite pastimes... I tend to prefer my Walther PPKS for carry - discreet, but effective for those serious social occasions. Michael J. AMA IBA '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX 1100GP NRA Walther PPKS (9mm kurz) Ruger #1V (22-250) CAR-15 (5.56) Anschutz (.22) S&W 422 (.22) Winchester 43 (.22) S&W 66 (.357) Browning Buckmark (.22) Ruger 10-22 (.22) and the list goes on dah - dah - dah - dum - dah dah dah dah dum and the list goes on... (with apologies to Sonny & Cher) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:36:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08301; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15998; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:36:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26952; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4C39.8E241C60@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:31:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'jlobrien@XXXXXX'" Subject: re:A note of thanks!... Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:31:10 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks everyone for the warm wishes and the congrat's and all that nice stuff.... Jeannette and I really appreciate it! We're registering at Coleman Power Sport so have your credit cards ready! And BTW... Anyone know of someone who'd like to donate a pair of 916's for us to ride away on?? We're not really into the whole stretched Gold Wing thing!!! LOL! -Tom From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:37:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08332; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:37:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA16032; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26979; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:37:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id PAA14052; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:36:07 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6692@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Viteri, Ursulina'" , "'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:37:24 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I was asked that when I attempted to BMX- bike it down a hill & cracked my front tooth in half when I was 9. I think I thought I was Speed Racer, without the car. The best gun I've ever shot was the AK 47. It goes fully automatic on you if you fire it for a long enough time!! Perhaps we have a little more testosterone than the average female(?) ; ) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Viteri, Ursulina [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 3:18 PM > To: 'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols > > I know, I know. Weird, huh? Must be spring time. > > BTW: My mom keeps wondering why I'm trying to be like a boy. > Hardly!!! > > Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC > 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX > [SMTP:tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:56 AM > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX > >Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols > > > >Man, Jeanette & Tom getting married, Ursulina with guns - what's > become of > >this list? > > > >---------- > >From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:35 AM > >To: 'DC Cycles' > >Subject: Non-moto related: Pistols > > > >Hi guys, > > > >Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother > found a > >good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice > use. Any > >comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be > appreciated. > > > >Thanks!! > > > >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC > >202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:49:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08728; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA16246; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27398; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA28320 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:48:39 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:48:39 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:50:53 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 6 TEXT >Perhaps we have a little more testosterone than the average female(?) Perhaps, but it doesn't show... ;-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:49:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08733; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:49:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA16242; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27396; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24958 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11682 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803102048.PAA11682@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:37 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Jordan, Michael" " at Mar 10, 98 12:38:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I still have a Daisy BB gun in my old bedroom in my folk's house. Would be kind of difficult to pump when riding though. Unless you can ride like Reno Reins. Louis > >This is turning into the dc-cycles-shooters mailing list ;-) Riding and > >shooting, my two favorite pastimes... > > I tend to prefer my Walther PPKS for carry - discreet, but effective for > those serious social occasions. > > Michael J. > AMA > IBA > '86 SRX-6 > '93 GSX 1100GP > NRA > Walther PPKS (9mm kurz) > Ruger #1V (22-250) > CAR-15 (5.56) > Anschutz (.22) > S&W 422 (.22) > Winchester 43 (.22) > S&W 66 (.357) > Browning Buckmark (.22) > Ruger 10-22 (.22) > > and the list goes on > dah - dah - dah - dum - dah dah dah dah dum > and the list goes on... > > (with apologies to Sonny & Cher) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:53:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08795; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:53:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA16327; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from DONALD.CDER.FDA.GOV by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27560; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr.cder.fda.gov by fdaserv.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.1-8 #21467) id <01IUI7S0IHHS8ZF1SB@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:17:31 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:08:59 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta DONALD; Relayed; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:08:59 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:08:52 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy 301-594-5672 FAX 301-480-8329 Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols In-reply-to: <025101bd4c5c$d6a06520$832f31cc@saturn.onyxgroup.com> To: DC Cycles Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:08:52 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: E1014IHA39OFO X400-MTS-identifier: [;95805101308991/2416212@FDACD] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 If you are serious about dessert let me recommend the chocolate layer cake at Hamburger Hamlet... Kirk >If you are serious about your hand gun let me recommend a .50 cal >Dessert Eagle. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:02:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09009; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:02:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16461; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:02:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA27810; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:01:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA17144; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:01:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA03909; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:01:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980310210126.PGKK27160@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:01:26 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:54 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Anita Lauro CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Alternate Sunday Ride? X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980310210126.PGKK27160@[166.41.242.141]> I think I'd like to get out of the Springfield/Lorton/Clifton area as well. Anita, pick a good ride from Dales book. I'm gonna try and hook up with you. What time? Where? Todd 703.644.2695 Message-Id: <199803101709.MAA09799@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:10:20 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Anita Lauro Subject: Alternate Sunday Ride? Not trying to take away from the Krispy Kreme ride... but since the last few group rides I've been on seem to have covered the same roads, and since the starting point is about 40 not-very-fun miles from my house, I'm thinking of heading west this Sunday, rather than south-east. Maybe Western Loudoun/Fauquier Counties or West Virginia (or both)... don't know how far yet, depends on the weather. Might try out a route from Dale Coyner's book or a ride sheet off of the web. Anyhow, thought I'd post to the list in case there were some lurking "western suburb" riders who were looking to start out a little closer to home and explore some points west. Otherwise it'll just be me, a full tank of gas, and my cell phone! Thanks! Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:03:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09028; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16474; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA27861; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id QAA01368 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA01624 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:01:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980310210128.PGKN27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:01:28 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:00 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: DC-Cycles list Subject: Re: MARRC Cornerworking Training - Reminder X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980310210128.PGKN27160@[166.41.242.141]> Anyone beside me from the VA side interested in this? I think I'll be making my way up. Gonna try some cornerworking when I have spare weekends this summer. Todd 703.644.2695 ===================================================================== Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:48:52 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy Reply-To: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: MARRC Cornerworking Training - Reminder Message-ID: Who: Anyone interested in learing how to cornerwork When: Saturday, March 14, 4pm to 8;30pm Where: Four Corners Recreation Center, Silver Spring, Maryland Why:The mid-Atlantic Roadracing Club (MARRC) has been providing top-quality safety crews for our motorcycle races for more than ten years. The Race Emergency School is our annual work session designed to teach volunteers how to be part of the best cornerworking crew in the country. You will be trained on cornerworkers' roles and duties, flags and flagging, hand signals, personal safety, radio procedures, bike pick-up and inspection, oil cleanup and other issues important to a cornerworker. A light dinner will be provided, but itf you need more substantial fare, please feel free to bring your own. The benefits of working with the MARRC Safety Crew include complimentary: Admission to the race track Lunch daily and dinner on Saturday at the track Safety Crew tee shirt MARRC Membership New friends, great times, and more! For more information, feel free to contact any of the following: David Rickman - (703)435-1223 Rodger Bacon - (703)379-8918 - rababacon@XXXXXX Wendy Karppi - (410)451-8382 - halfpint@XXXXXX Myself (Brian McCoy) (301)445-4451 - (e-mails at the bottom) Directions: >From the Washington beltway, go north on either route 29 (colesville Rd) or route 193 (University Blvd). At the junction of 29 and 193, go north on 29 towards Columbia. The second left is Southwood Ave. Follow Southwood to the rec center. hope to see all of you there!!! (ok, so I won't seen anyone there, cause I'm not going! ha, sorry.. For those who do get involved, I'll see ya at the track!) Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com\motorcity\1319 (OLD Homepage - view at your own risk) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:04:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09047; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:04:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16497; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:04:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA27891; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:04:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id QAA00401; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:07:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:07:55 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, zell@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX, zellto@XXXXXX, zellto@XXXXXX Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX wrote: ...stuff clipped... > > I love the idea of the stretch white Gold Wing......Wish you many years of > riding and loving.... Exactly what kind of "riding" did you mean here? ...sorry, but the question begged to be asked! :-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:05:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09090; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:05:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16517; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA27932; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4C3D.93FE1420@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:59:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Viteri, Ursulina'" , "'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:59:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The best(most interesting) weapon I've ever fired was a genuine Chinese military issue bolt-action rifle. I don't know what model it was, but I know it was about 60 years old. Man did that thing have some major kick to it! It also had the complete bayonet assembly in the stock along with instructions for use(I believe).... Pretty neat! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 3:37 PM >To: 'Viteri, Ursulina'; 'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols > >I was asked that when I attempted to BMX- bike it down a hill & cracked >my front tooth in half when I was 9. I think I thought I was Speed >Racer, without the car. >The best gun I've ever shot was the AK 47. It goes fully automatic on >you if you fire it for a long enough time!! >Perhaps we have a little more testosterone than the average female(?) >; ) > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Viteri, Ursulina [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 3:18 PM >> To: 'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols >> >> I know, I know. Weird, huh? Must be spring time. >> >> BTW: My mom keeps wondering why I'm trying to be like a boy. >> Hardly!!! >> >> Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >> 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX >> [SMTP:tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:56 AM >> >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX >> >Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols >> > >> >Man, Jeanette & Tom getting married, Ursulina with guns - what's >> become of >> >this list? >> > >> >---------- >> >From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:35 AM >> >To: 'DC Cycles' >> >Subject: Non-moto related: Pistols >> > >> >Hi guys, >> > >> >Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother >> found a >> >good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice >> use. Any >> >comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be >> appreciated. >> > >> >Thanks!! >> > >> >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >> >202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >> > >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:08:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09116; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:08:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16553; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:08:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA28007; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id NAA10036; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id NAA22183; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:07:27 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id NAA22177; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:07:26 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4C25.77AF9AE0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:07:24 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:02:44 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 70 TEXT Damn, a AK47 - COOOOOOOOOL! Heck, big air is great stuff but not on a street bike - IMHO More testosterone? Well, maybe just a little. :) Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 12:37 PM >To: 'Viteri, Ursulina'; 'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols > >I was asked that when I attempted to BMX- bike it down a hill & cracked >my front tooth in half when I was 9. I think I thought I was Speed >Racer, without the car. >The best gun I've ever shot was the AK 47. It goes fully automatic on >you if you fire it for a long enough time!! >Perhaps we have a little more testosterone than the average female(?) >; ) > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Viteri, Ursulina [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 3:18 PM >> To: 'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols >> >> I know, I know. Weird, huh? Must be spring time. >> >> BTW: My mom keeps wondering why I'm trying to be like a boy. >> Hardly!!! >> >> Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >> 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX >> [SMTP:tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:56 AM >> >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX >> >Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols >> > >> >Man, Jeanette & Tom getting married, Ursulina with guns - what's >> become of >> >this list? >> > >> >---------- >> >From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:35 AM >> >To: 'DC Cycles' >> >Subject: Non-moto related: Pistols >> > >> >Hi guys, >> > >> >Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother >> found a >> >good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice >> use. Any >> >comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be >> appreciated. >> > >> >Thanks!! >> > >> >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >> >202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >> > >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:09:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09144; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16573; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:09:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA28031; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:09:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4C3E.17FC83B0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:03:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Jordan, Michael'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:03:40 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey.. I can vouch for that one!! ; ) -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Jordan, Michael [SMTP:mike@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 3:51 PM >To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols > >>Perhaps we have a little more testosterone than the average female(?) > >Perhaps, but it doesn't show... ;-) > >Michael J. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:28:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09504; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA17027; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:27:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from sundown.northgrum.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA28618; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:27:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from puff.northgrum.com (puff.northgrum.com [157.127.103.139]) by sundown.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA11377 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:27:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from xcgca004.northgrum.com ([157.127.103.103]) by puff.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA12512 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by XCGCA004 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:27:42 -0800 Message-ID: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF550@xcgva001.grumman.com> From: "Meier, Christopher" To: DC-Cycles list , "'Todd Peer'" Subject: RE: MARRC Cornerworking Training - Reminder Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:25:17 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Yeah, I'm interested. I'll go up with you. Brian, can you set your own weekends, or do they (MARRC) want to schedule you in advance for a predetermined set of weekends through the season? I am happy to volunteer time, but my work schedule can be unpredictable and I travel out of town on many weekends, and thus need to be flexible. --chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Christopher A. Meier meierch@XXXXXX Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA 1994 RF900R AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ > ---------- > From: Todd Peer[SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 4:00 PM > To: DC-Cycles list > Subject: Re: MARRC Cornerworking Training - Reminder > > > Anyone beside me from the VA side interested in this? I think I'll > be making my way up. Gonna try some cornerworking when I have spare > weekends this summer. > > Todd > 703.644.2695 > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:52:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09992; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:52:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA17697; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:52:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA29432; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id QAA25002 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:52:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA15367 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:52:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980310215203.LYKX27632@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:52:03 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:51 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: Chris Norloff...and everyone else X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980310215203.LYKX27632@[166.41.242.141]> Check out the versatile, spacy looking ST Hack http://connexus.apana.org.au/~pholt/flexit.htm From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 17:01:09 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10128; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA17882; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA29746; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.75.159]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA14659; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:00:30 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "Viteri, Ursulina" Cc: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:56:45 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4c6f$6b61e320$9f4b440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Ursulina-- My friend has one and it's quite nice. Possibly a bit large, but that depends on you. Ruger's employee health insurance, however, does not cover motorcycle accidents, though it does cover drunk-driving accidents. I realize that buying a used gun doesn't put money in Bill Ruger's pocket, but it's not something I'd do. How much is it? See ya Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 17:04:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10165; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:04:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA17929; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA29796; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA26232 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:03:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:03:42 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: Re: Non-moto related: shooting! In-Reply-To: <9803101520.AA22466@172.17.2.20> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > expensive to crank out 50 rounds or so. I agree with (I forget who), buy a > .22 caliber for practice - you can blow out 500 .22 rounds for the cost of 50 > 9MM rounds. Hrm, does that mean I strap on my Anshutz and Finwerkbau rifles for the next trip? ($2,500 22cal, and $1,000 pellet rifle respectivly - world champion quality.. :), Yes, I can shoot too...) Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 17:12:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10363; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA18253; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00119; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:12:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id RAA03849 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:11:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA12261 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:11:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980310221146.YBYD4928@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:11:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:11 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: In Search of....No MC Content... X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980310221146.YBYD4928@[166.41.242.141]> Still in search of. If anyone is interested, details follow. If you know someone who might be interested, I'd appreciate the referral and will pay you $25 if they turn out to be my next roommate. If it's you, then $50 off the first month. This is really a great deal as the rent covers two rooms for your exclusive use! Did I mention I live close to some pretty cool riding roads? Well, I do! You work in DC/Pentagon/Crystal City? Ride to work on the I95 HOV! Only 20 minutes to the Potomac river! If you ride with me, that's 10 minutes!!! Wahooo! Call me and thanks, Todd ps, If you/they would like to move in immediately, call me now and I'll work out a good deal for you. I have a room available right now! ---------------Look!--------Look!---------Look!--------------------- ISO one professional M/F, non-smoker, 24-40 years old, no pets, w/references, to share a very large home with me. The home is in a quiet neighborhood three miles west of Springfield Mall and the new Park and Ride/Metro station. The house is less than a mile off of the Springfield/Franconia Parkway, and w/in a mile of four popular grocers. The home is bi-level with wall-to-wall carpet, central heating and AC and is situated as follows: Upper floor: - Large kitchen with d/w, gas stove, micro-wave - Hardwood floored dining room with walkout to screened porch - Furnished living room, TV. - attic w/scuttle access - Full Bathroom - Bedroom - Master bed/bath Lower floor: - Two Bedrooms - Wash room with w/d, ironing - Furnished Rec-Room, TV, fireplace, darts - Full Bathroom For rent are the two downstairs bedrooms. That's right two rooms for the price of one (in most locations). The larger room is a corner room and is approximately 13x12 ft with a 5x2 closet and two windows. The smaller room is approximately 9x12 with a 4x2 closet and a single window. My roommate uses the smaller room as his office. The bathroom downstairs is your responsibility and on occassion could be used by guests. Rent: $550 + $350 sec. deposit w/lease, includes all utilities (Gas, Electric, Water, Cable, Trash-Pickup, Telephone). Long distance phone calls charged monthly. $590 with less than 1-year lease. Contact: Todd (703) 644-2695, or e-mail todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Water/Sewer $ 25 Trash Pickup 20 Phone 35 Cable 50 Gas 60 Electric 90 Maid Service 50 (approximate / negotiable) ---- $330 / 2 = $165 in amenities, making rent $410 for two rooms!!!!!!! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 17:18:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10518; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA18712; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:18:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00387; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4C48.58DEBAB0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:17:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Cc: Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:17:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 25 TEXT Usually I try to be careful about how I put things (from being married to Dale) - but you got me - choose your own meaning - all riding is fun.... ---------- From: Morris Berman[SMTP:mberman@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 4:07 PM To: Horstman, Tracy L @ MAN Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; zell@XXXXXX; jlobrien@XXXXXX; zellto@XXXXXX; zellto@XXXXXX Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX wrote: ...stuff clipped... > > I love the idea of the stretch white Gold Wing......Wish you many years of > riding and loving.... Exactly what kind of "riding" did you mean here? ...sorry, but the question begged to be asked! :-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 17:36:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10739; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:36:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA19241; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:36:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00801; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:36:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA27191 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:10:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:10:03 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: RE: MARRC Cornerworking Training - Reminder In-Reply-To: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF550@xcgva001.grumman.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Meier, Christopher wrote: > > Brian, can you set your own weekends, or do they (MARRC) want to > schedule you in advance for a predetermined set of weekends through the > season? I am happy to volunteer time, but my work schedule can be > unpredictable and I travel out of town on many weekends, and thus need > to be flexible. > It's a very free thing - to the point that you show up at 7am and they let you know where to go.. if you're not there the next day, someone else covers for you. When I started, I litteraly called on the Thursday before the race (gates open Friday at 6pm), and got directions.. then showed up for one day - I learned on the fly.. Pretty simple, very relaxed stuff (cept when something happens right infront of you!). Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 18:20:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11542; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:20:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19638; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:19:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02082; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:19:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from my-workstation (client196-127-230.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.230]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id SAA24272; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:17:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980310180913.009ba710@wingate> X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:09:13 -0500 To: rjohns3@XXXXXX, "Viteri, Ursulina" From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols Cc: "'DC Cycles'" In-Reply-To: <35057FA8.AB9AF855@ibm.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Having said my piece (not punny!), my next will definitely be a Springfield 1911. :) MET At 01:00 PM 3/10/98 -0500, Robert W. Johnston wrote: >The P89 is a fair pistol. It will do groupings in the 1 to 2 inch range out >of the box. I would reccommend a .45 cal. pistol over a 9mm any day of the >week. The 9mm was designed for combat usage, and as such was optimized for >wounding, rather than killing. The .45 has the largest wound path, and the >greatest hydrostatic shock of all of the common and inexpensive lead bullets. >This opinion is grounded in the imfamous swedish goat test of the 70s... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 18:21:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11563; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:21:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19661; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:21:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02101; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:21:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from my-workstation (client196-127-230.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.230]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id SAA24264; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:16:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980310180205.009b09c0@wingate> X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:02:05 -0500 To: "Viteri, Ursulina" , "'DC Cycles'" From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey Ursulina, I have one that's about a year old. Very well made, smooth action. Can hang up on +P cartridges due to some blowback into the firing pin hole, but I've never had this problem with standard rounds. Dot sights are a bit weak; I really like the ones on the Glock, and am looking for replacements. After comparing it to a couple of other (mostly rental) weapons, I find that it absorbs recoil very smoothly. The "step" (what's the right word?) where the trigger pull gets heavy is very pronounced, and causes me not to be smooth sometimes, but then, you never don't know when it's about to go off. :) This is the one other thing I'm thinking of having a gunsmith look at, just to ease the transition a little. I used to work with a guy whose wife had one, with recoil compensator and integrated laser (okay, a little overkill maybe), and he was a big fan of it. Hmm -- ramblings, not very organized. :) Let me know if there's anything I missed. MET At 07:35 AM 3/10/98 -0800, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: >Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found >a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. > Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be >appreciated. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 18:24:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11627; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:24:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19690; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:24:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02146; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:24:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA15623; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:24:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv3-13.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.77) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma015556; Tue Mar 10 17:23:21 1998 Message-ID: <35058A48.3A26@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:45:28 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Todd Peer Subject: Re: MARRC Cornerworking Training - Reminder References: <19980310210128.PGKN27160@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Anyone beside me from the VA side interested in this? I think I'll >be making my way up. Gonna try some cornerworking when I have spare >weekends this summer. >Todd Todd, I will be attending from WV, but the way the forecast looks probably wont be riding unless it gets a bit above freezing by 0700 on saturday morning -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 18:38:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11910; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19819; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02544; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:38:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from rdt.erols.com (207-172-121-81.s81.tnt15.brd.erols.com [207.172.121.81]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13013 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:38:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803102338.SAA13013@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Roy D. Turner" To: Subject: Another Sat. Ride? Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:37:31 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone interested in riding this Saturday? Forecast is for 52 degrees. I would like to depart around 12:00 from a central location. I am open to ideas re: destination. By the way, last weeks ride to Colonial Beach was great!!! Had a total of three riders and one passenger. Roy D. Turner, Esq. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 18:39:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11918; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:39:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19830; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:39:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02570; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.33] (unverified [207.226.128.33]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:38:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Testing... Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 18:39:56 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Has this list been completely dead over the weekend or is it this server >at work malfunctioning again!!?? Completely dead, or both of our servers are broken:) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 19:04:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12137; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA19998; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:04:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA02995; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:04:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from Vamoto@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1IYJa05359 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:04:00 -0500 (EST) From: Vamoto Message-ID: <1b3f47b.3505d4f2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:04:00 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Digest Mode Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 please return me to normal mode and take me off of digest. thanks From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 19:08:02 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12186; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA20018; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:07:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA03065; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:07:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA20711; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:07:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv3-13.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.77) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma020675; Tue Mar 10 18:06:57 1998 Message-ID: <35059482.7BC0@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:29:06 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Jordan, Michael" Subject: Re: VF list References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jordan, Michael wrote: > > Do any of you VF types out there have the subscription address for the > VF mailing list? > > My elder son, Sean, just got his first scooter last Saturday (a VERY > clean '83 750 Interceptor w/39K miles) and I know he would appreciate > this source of info. > > Michael J. > '93 GSX 1100GP > '86 SRX-6 VF/VFR: DESCRIPTION: Honda VF/VFR Discussion (automated) DIGEST AVAILABLE? Yes ADMIN ADDRESS: majordomo@XXXXXX TO SUBSCRIBE: Message body: "subscribe vfr" or "subscribe vfr-digest" LIST OWNER: john@XXXXXX WWW URL: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~john/vfr-list Heres what I have on the VF mailing list, hope it helps. -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 19:20:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12331; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA20116; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA03274; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:19:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.55] (unverified [207.226.128.55]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:19:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Saturday Ride (no rain ;) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 19:20:16 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "John C. Kozyn" , "dc-cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >So what about the rest of you slackers? OK, Tom and Jeannette had an >excuse (Congrats you guys - I love love stories :) Was heading to my parents house to do some work on my bike. Saw my brother and father riding in opposite direction. Did a u turn, joined 'em for a couple of hours. >Did _anyone_ ride on Sunday? Why don't I think so? :^P Anyways y'all, >you missed a nice ride. Hey, for that matter, did anyone do like I did, >and play hookey and ride today? I did ride Sunday:p Rode to my parents house to do the work on the bike that I skipped on Saturday:) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 19:20:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12336; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA20126; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA03278; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.55] (unverified [207.226.128.55]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:19:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 19:20:30 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Tom Zell" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" cc: "'jlobrien@XXXXXX'" , "'zellto@XXXXXX'" , "'zellto@XXXXXX'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are >engaged to be married!! You have broken the hearts of countless members of the list. Congratulations! ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 19:20:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12339; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA20128; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA03282; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.55] (unverified [207.226.128.55]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:19:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: F650ST Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 19:20:27 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Gil M. Nissley" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> Oh, and the sucker wheelies easier and better than any BMW that I've >> ridden. The same technique that gets me four or five inches on the R850R >> gives about 15 inches on the F650. For some reason, my father didn't seem >> pleased to hear that:) > > C'mon George,everyone knows shafties can't wheelie. ;-) Ahh, reading rec.moto again? Anyway, I know it must wheelie, because we all know it's chain drive. I can tell by the trail left in the garage:) Can anyone say "Scottoiler for Father's Day"? >> My father summed it up like this "That bike is what motorcycling is >> all about." He's never been that enthusiastic about something in the 25 >> years I've known him:) > > Thumpers are cool.Tell your dad now he has to join the National >Four Stroke Singles Assoc. I'm still trying to get him to join the AMA! (Err, the one for motorcycles, that is:) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 19:20:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12340; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA20129; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA03280; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.55] (unverified [207.226.128.55]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:19:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Daytona 200 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 19:20:23 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Gil M. Nissley" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Heh.Harley is going to be tying up all their spare cash paying for >Buell warranty claims now that they own the company(did I mention I >just got *another* recall notice in the mail :-P). I got a recall for the BMW. Poorly routed wiring, basically. Runs too close to a sharp piece of metal. Never heard of an incident, but... What's your recall for? ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 19:20:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12346; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA20136; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA03289; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.55] (unverified [207.226.128.55]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:19:36 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 19:20:38 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "DC-Cycles list" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! >Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last >weekend? >Curtis? Still wanna lead? Last I heard, it'll be sunny and freezing. And, since I've ignored my SWMBO for the past three weekends in favor of bikes, the only way I'll see a bike this weekend is with a pillion:) (And this pillion doesn't like the cold, even if she did get a BMW heated jacket for her birthday) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 21:14:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA13880; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA22734; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm07.itmassociates.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA05746; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:14:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm04.itmassociates.com ([207.205.218.59]) by itm07.itmassociates.com (Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) with SMTP id 852565C4.000C47E3; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:14:09 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980311021356.0092920c@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: us004937@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:13:56 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Robert Space Subject: 86 VF500F - New Lister, parts and advice wanted Hey DCers I was referred to the email list by a DC member of the VRF list. In college I had an 86 Rebel 250 (oooohh ahhhh) which was my first bike. Sold it for what I paid for it. I figured when I got my next bike I would shoot for a 600cc sport bike of some kind just for nice days and weekends. I have a Mustang as a daily driver, and living in DC, the traffic patterns seem to be a little too dangerous to drive to work everyday on a motorcycle. My neighbor gave me an 86 VF500F Interceptor for FREE, but it had one major problem...it was completely disassembled and missing 10-15% of the parts. It seemed like the right bike, FREE, sporty, yet comfortable, and under 600cc(insurance) but much better than any Rebel. What kind of approximate HP does a VF500 make stock? So after 4 wheelbarrow loads full of parts, not including frame, body work, and wheels, I had an 86 Baby Ceptor. It came with an entire engine re-ring and gasket set. I had the heads disassembled and checked out by a local shop. I have assembled almost everything, but I am still missing a few critical parts. I am missing most of the exhaust system. All I have in the down pipes off of the motor. So I need to find a used, but good condition exhaust chamber and canisters, if anyone has any to sell email me. Thats about the only thing stopping me from starting the bike up by the end of March right now. I still have to paint most of the body work. It came with some sort of aftermarket Full Fairing. It looks like some sort of composite material, but I'm pretty sure its just FGlass. Is this something I want to try to mount, or is it just a big waste of time? Will the bike look stupid with it on there? I also heard that someone on this list might be parting out a VF500, am I correct? If they could email me if the parts are still available, I need alot of knick-knack parts to finish the one I have. Can't wait for it to stop raining. Thanks for listening and any help or suggestions. Rob Space Most of a 86 VF500F DC Area From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 22:29:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA14668; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:29:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA23072; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:28:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA06992; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:28:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-130-196.ATLN.grid.net [207.205.130.196]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA10408 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:27:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980310222921.00699f94@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:29:21 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Day 2: Deal's Gap Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Short version: Quit your job, leave your SO, and ride to Deal's Gap. You will not regret it. Even if you don't ride it, the roads to and from it are worth it. Longer version: I woke up to temperatures in the 20s and snow flurries. So, undaunted (and bolstered by a breakfast that would make a nutritionist faint) I suited up and headed out into the cold. Following a route from Asheville recommended in Dale Coyner's book, I took Route 74 westward. Despite the light snow, it wasn't as bad as I expected, particularly since the roads are so well-maintained. As usual, it was a spectacular divided highway with long, fast sweeper and mountain passes. After topping off the tank, I turned onto Rt. 28 toward Fontana. This place is notorious among BMW riders, as the place where riders at a recent rally were subjected to unbelievable harassment by the local authorities. However, I quickly understood why they selected Fontana for the rally site. This is a fantastically twisty two-laner, running through the mountains, along rivers and beside the Fontana Dam, the largest on the east coast and from which Harrison Ford lept in "The Fugitive." Approaching Deal's Gap was some of the best riding I've experienced with views of the Smoky Mountains and Fontana Lake. With little traffic, it was easy to concentrate on picking good lines through the turns. Just when I thought it couldn't get any better, I arrived at the intersection of Rt. 28 and 129, the North Carolina entrance to Deal's Gap (which runs across the border into Tennessee). Riders who enter from Tennessee get to warm up on some switchbacks as they move up the mountain side. By contrast, from the NC side, you get right to it, no foreplay. From the first moment it is unrelenting turn after turn after turn. For several miles I don't think there was more than 20 yards of straight pavement. The road turns, goes up, down, banks... it's unbelievable. For the first mile or so, you're in shock. By mile marker 3 you're in the groove, attacking the corners. By mile 5, you're trying to look beyond the current turn into the next, in order to move through the combinations. Still, it is a formidable chunk of pavement. With a reputed 318 turns in 11 miles, it is exhausting. After a few runs, I pulled over and lay down, my stomach churning from the constant vestibular assault. I'm not making this up... the road was so intense I thought I'd hurl (maybe it was breakfast?). I headed back via 129, stopping at the Nantahala Outdoor Center, beside the river of the same name, for lunch. The place is a launching point for kayakers, rafters, and mountain bikers so the body piercing tally was pretty high. Following another gloriously circuitous route back to Asheville, I enjoyed a fine Mexican-Caribbean meal at Salsa's. I'm sorry to report that, given the quality of the riding, I didn't have time to soak in the Biltmore or any other cultural sites. I gotta tell you, this whole area is a motorcyclist's dream. I only wish I had more time to explore the Smokies. Now I have to decide where to go tomorrow. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 22:31:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA14687; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:31:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA23089; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA07063; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:30:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.65.77]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA10931; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 03:30:19 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "George Howell" Cc: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: Buell Recall, was Daytona 200 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:26:35 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4c9d$7ec5a360$LocalHost@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 George asked Gil: What's your recall for? George-- Probably for the engine falling out after the frame splits in two.... ;-) Sorry, Gil. Later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 23:09:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15119; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:09:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23303; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA07622; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:09:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (1Cust113.tnt10.atl2.da.uu.net [153.36.81.113]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07815; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:08:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35075F02.C761E718@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:05:22 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" Organization: MSC Salvage Team X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Viteri, Ursulina" CC: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ursulina, A friend of mine has two P89s, and although a bit on the large side (it's a doublestack clip), it's a pretty nice little weapon. My only complaint would be the hard plastic composite grip. It can be a little slippery, but easily fixed with a grip boot. If you want to try a few different caliber guns before deciding on something, you're welcome to come to a range with me and try any of mine. I have: Star Firestar + 9mm (same size as Walther PPK, 13+1 rounds.. my conceal weapon) Star Megastar .45 (very large and heavy, but very stable and mild kick... 12+1 rnds) Colt King Cobra .357 (revolver, my personal favorite...arguably the best one shot stopping power caliber...when i get back home I'll send the url with supporting data on that) Ruger Mk II Competition model .22 ( great fun, extremely accurate... cheap to shoot) For the long guns, I have: MAK 90 (basically an AK-47 with modified stock... and a helfire put on it) Ithaca single shot 20 guage (very very old, kicks like hell) and the beast of beasts in my closet: Ruger Model 77 chambered in .338 WinMag (nice little kick too....but doesn't get shot too often at $3/bullet) The offer to shoot them is open to anyone as long as I'm with you at a range... (don't want legal problems :) Collin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 23:13:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15161; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:13:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23317; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:13:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA07650; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA20832; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:09:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:08:54 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Dunlop D 204 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Jay wrote: > I am considering putting a D 204 on my FZR 600. Has anyone had any luck > with this tire? I have heard some negative press about it, but want to hear > more. I've got nothing but good things to say about mine.Course,my bike is lighter than Collin's,it's a V-twin,and I'm not quite the gonzo rider he is. I've got 7.5k on mine and they've got an easy 1-2k left in them.They are also the *best* tires I have ridden in the rain or on bridge gratings. BTW Collin,Don...were you guys using street or GP compound(just curious)? The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:07:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15904; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA23995; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08310; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:07:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.44] (unverified [207.226.128.44]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:06:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Buell Recall, was Daytona 200 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 00:07:38 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "kevin thomas" cc: "dc-cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Probably for the engine falling out after the frame splits in two.... Well as long as it's only minor finish work that's failing for a change... -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:14:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16088; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24360; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08544; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA21332; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:10:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:03:02 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <025101bd4c5c$d6a06520$832f31cc@saturn.onyxgroup.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Pete Slatcoff wrote: > If you are serious about your hand gun let me recommend a .50 cal Dessert > Eagle. Naw,get a Redhawk and have it converted to .500 Linbaugh.600 grain slug at .357-level velocities....oooer! BTW,wot's up with all these autos?I prefer wheelguns myself.No jams, easier cleaning,and you can leave 'em loaded forever without worrying about a magazine spring. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:18:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16205; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24494; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:18:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08684; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:18:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA21353; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:13:53 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:11:53 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > Damn, a AK47 - COOOOOOOOOL! Ewwww....Commie iron. You want a nice M-16,you do. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:27:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16314; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24715; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:27:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08825; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA21394; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:23:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:17:20 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF541@xcgva001.grumman.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Meier, Christopher wrote: > Congrats!!! Ditto. > Hmmm. Let's see here ... > Bachelor Party = Crow Bar > Rehearsal dinner = Payne's > Reception = ??? Crow bar?At least do it proper at a nudie bar.Hey,I know a cool place up in Jersey.We could do a long-distance ride.I know some twisties along the way. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:37:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16434; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:37:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24787; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08939; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.172.52.173] (207-172-52-173.s173.tnt1.brd.erols.com [207.172.52.173]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA04827 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:37:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:37:00 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: r.chapin@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980311021356.0092920c@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Ryan Chapin Subject: Re: 86 VF500F - New Lister, parts and advice wanted >My neighbor gave me an 86 VF500F Interceptor for FREE, but it had one major >problem...it was completely disassembled and missing 10-15% of the parts. >It seemed like the right bike, FREE, sporty, yet comfortable, and under >600cc(insurance) but much better than any Rebel. Gave you? Man lucky guy! Interceptors are cool. I am totally biased as my street bike is a '85 VF500f also. You will definately like it better than the Rebel, much sportier, and much more power. > >What kind of approximate HP does a VF500 make stock? Well, it was touted as making 77hp stock, but that was when they were measuring hp at the crank, I'd say that mine (piped and jetted) prob makes about 55-60 or so. > >I am missing most of the exhaust system. All I have in the down pipes off >of the motor. You've got all the exhaust parts you need to put an aftermarket 4 into 1 system on it which I definately recommend. I put a Hindle header and can on mine and jetted it and it made loads of difference. You don't want to put the stock crap on it as it is very restrictive and heavy as hell. >I still have to paint most of the body work. It came with some sort of >aftermarket Full Fairing. It looks like some sort of composite material, >but I'm pretty sure its just FGlass. Is this something I want to try to >mount, or is it just a big waste of time? Will the bike look stupid with it >on there? It's probably a telefix lower, I was actually given one of them myself, got the mounting kit and decided not to put it on, I can let you have the mounting stuff for a couple of bucks > >I also heard that someone on this list might be parting out a VF500, That is Senior, Brian McCoy (who has prob already read your mail) am I >correct? If they could email me if the parts are still available, I need >alot of knick-knack parts to finish the one I have. If you are going to be working on it, I've got a few tidbit tricks that I have learned fiddling with mine over the past few years that you might want to know about, just e-mail me and let me know. Good luck with the bike, the Baby R's are cool as hell! Ryan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:39:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16470; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24811; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:39:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08971; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (2Cust54.tnt9.atl2.da.uu.net [153.36.59.182]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02640; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:39:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3507743C.5EBE6578@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:35:56 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" Organization: MSC Salvage Team X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gil M. Nissley" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit he he he.. For accuracy, yes, an M16 is pretty damn good.. As a combat weapon, the AK is far superior...It only has 5 moving parts. You can leave it laying in the mud and muck for a week and it'll still shoot well enough for a grunt or jarhead....the M16 on the other hand has waaay too many parts, and although the newer versions are better than those of lore, they still jam very easily and hate any dirtiness... Hey Brian, You still have your Anschutz rifles???? COOL... i haven't shot one of those in a few years. Maybe I'll have to get a few boxes of Tenex for ya :) I used to love air rifle competitions. Small bore I was OK at, but knee problems always made kneeling position really suck... Collin ps: Miami has been downright last night and through this evening... :( Gil M. Nissley wrote: > On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > > Damn, a AK47 - COOOOOOOOOL! > > Ewwww....Commie iron. > > You want a nice M-16,you do. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:44:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16511; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24846; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA09013; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA21465; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:39:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:32:54 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Buell Recall, was Daytona 200 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <01bd4c9d$7ec5a360$LocalHost@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, kevin thomas wrote: > George asked Gil: What's your recall for? > George-- > Probably for the engine falling out after the frame splits in two.... > Sorry, Gil. Har-de-har-har.Just remember that things fall off the next time I'm riding in front of you. :-P This recall is for the turn signal idiot light.It can sometimes flash even when the signal is burned out.I'm still looking into the brake recall.Court from Buell says its something different than my prob,but I've heard from two Buell owners who said it *is* the same prob I'm having.To recap;the floating washers on my front rotor are hitting my brake caliper.Not cool. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:47:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16522; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:47:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24867; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA09039; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-16.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.57]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA22164 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:47:01 -0500 Message-ID: <068501bd4cb1$50fca960$3210b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "DC-Cycles list" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: shooting! & ladies! Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:47:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Can't not share these favorite true and story stories. True story -- An excellent lady friend of mine now lives in Oregon, used to be Herndon until a couple of years ago. About a year before she transferred, and after having reflected for some months on how she did a fair amount of traveling, car and plane, with exposure to the wilds of America, it seemed a good idea to acquaint her with pistols and shooting (myself having briefly in my past handled 45's, 22s, 30-06s, even muzzle loaders). My conscience would never survive should she have been in a position to defend herself and not been able to use an available firearm. We'd chatted about guns briefly and there was a lot of lady-type resistance (no guns in house, etc.). It seemed any progress would need to be fait accompli. No asking, just do it. So -- On a birthday -- dinner planned in the 'burbs -- we started out but it wasn't too long before she questioned why we were heading out of the way to the Rt 50/Rt 28 area. I stalled and dodged until we arrived at the shooting gallery (recall the Blue Ridge Arsenal?). Tactics unveiled, we talked to nice fellow behind the counter (previous appointment made) who set us up and gave pointers. Great range-side manner of his helped a lot. Several other shooters on the range banging away. I think we had 32s. I went first, did passably at the close setting, reviewed and reset the target, and turned it over to her. Well. She became a different woman. Suddenly there was a machine with lipstick holding that pistol with both hands. Slowly, menacingly, she took aim, pulled the trigger, and SHE HIT THE BULLSEYE THE VERY FIRST TIME! And right in the center! It looked so good we verified the target after that first shot and kept it. The rest of the session was good, too. A little scattered at distance, of course, but a real confidence-builder for her and it had me grinning inside from armpit to armpit. There's more. The following Christmas brought her a T-shirt shouting the above accomplishment -- lots of fun. Then, last fall, I got an Oregon call from this very excited woman. "I just shot a deer." Seems co--workers took her hunting. Wow! One up on me, who's not shot a deer. Venison came FedEx. Bread cast . . .. (I told her they needed her new talents back here to save us humans from deer overrun.) And it's so nice to know she now has a proven reputation for handling a firearm out there in indian and chemical weapon country. Don't mess . . .. (Next -- out of the cage onto a pink V-Max!) Story story (Polish could be Irish could be Swedish could be . . .) A Polish fellow goes a-hunting early in the morning. All day he tramps through the forest with no sightings. Towards dusk he comes across a small clearing, in the middle of which stands a lovely woman in the buff, preening herself. He watches, obscured, for a few minutes, becoming increasingly interested and ready for the end of the day, then walks out. She sees him and smiles. She takes a few steps away and motions to him to come closer. He moves toward her, anticipating, and she retreats a bit more and motions again. He gets closer, and warmer. She's saying something softly, he can't quite hear. This continues until she's almost at the edge where he's finally close enough to understand -- "Hi, big fella. I'm game." So he shoots her. Bill Swanson / DC EN500 LTD Join the AMA. Join the AMA. Join the AMA. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:55:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16563; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:55:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24922; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:55:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA09095; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA21511; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:51:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:41:11 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3507743C.5EBE6578@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Collin T. Fagan wrote: > he he he.. For accuracy, yes, an M16 is pretty damn good.. As a combat > weapon, the AK is far superior...It only has 5 moving parts. You can > leave it laying in the mud and muck for a week and it'll still shoot > well enough for a grunt or jarhead....the M16 on the other hand has > waaay too many parts, and although the newer versions are better than > those of lore, they still jam very easily and hate any dirtiness... The new ones are better than you think.I've seen tests where they've dribbled sand into the receiver while holding the gun sideways and firing it.Went through several hundred rounds before a jam.The -16 is also way lighter,and there are suggestions that the 5.56 round actually does more damage than the 7.62(x39? you know the Combloc rounds are shorter and slower than the NATO equivelent) due to the fact that it tumbles in the target after impact.Nasty wound channels. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 01:11:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA16673; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA25054; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:10:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA09244; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:10:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA21776; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:06:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:55:25 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: 86 VF500F - New Lister, parts and advice wanted To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980311021356.0092920c@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Robert Space wrote: > What kind of approximate HP does a VF500 make stock? Honda claimed 68 for the '84-85 and 66 for the '86.The '86 was tuned slightly different for more midrange.Keep this in mind when doing work on the bike or remind the dealer if you ever take it in.Also,your '86 has a gravity-feed fuel petcock,the other years had fuel pumps.Also keep this in mind when working on the bike.I had a dealer service my old '86 once and they tuned it wrong and wound up trashing the petcock. > I still have to paint most of the body work. It came with some sort of > aftermarket Full Fairing. It looks like some sort of composite material, > but I'm pretty sure its just FGlass. Is this something I want to try to > mount, or is it just a big waste of time? Will the bike look stupid with it > on there? I've seen both cool and ugly lowers for Baby 'ceptors.Lockhart I think had the coolest.I can't see the lowers making that much of a difference at normal road speeds,so I'd say it boils down to a matter a personal taste.Put 'em on and decide if you think it looks cool or not. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 02:01:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA16955; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 02:01:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA25277; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 02:01:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA09810; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 02:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA21945; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:57:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:55:20 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: CW Address? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey all, I sent an e-mail to _Cycle World_ once,but now I've lost their address.Anyone know what it is? TIA. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 06:55:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA18865; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA27386; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA13475; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:42:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , DC-Cycles list Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:42:38 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) If its nice out I lead. Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna > I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! > Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last > weekend? > Curtis? Still wanna lead? > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 06:55:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA18872; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA27388; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA13477; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:07:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "Clements, Curtis A" , "'DC-Cycles list'" , "O'Brien, Jeannette" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:07:40 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Wow, your up to 7 hour rides now? Maybe we can get you on one of those US 33 and US 250 rides to WV this summer? Have you all done the Indian Head, southern MD ride via back roads yet? I have taken Curtis on some of these before. Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 1:59 PM > To: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN; Clements, Curtis A; 'DC-Cycles list'; > O'Brien, Jeannette > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > I guess whatever anyone wants. > Hey, babe, I did a 7-hour ride one day!! > You're forgetting, I was scared to do long rides when I first started, > not now!! > What does everyone think time-wise? > I'll get up semi-early for donuts! > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 2:01 PM > > To: Clements, Curtis A; 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > I don't know, how far can you go? Your the light weight who doesn't > > like to > > go very far :-). Can we make it any earlier then 11:00? That's late > > for me > > and I usually party hardy on Saturday nights. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:02 AM > > > To: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN; 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, > > Jeannette' > > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > > > Glenn, where do you plan to led us to? > > > > > > ---------- > > > From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:42 AM > > > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles > > list > > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > > > Cool! Same place - Krispy Kreme - same time - what was it? 11?? > > > > > > - Jeannette > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:43 AM > > > > To: O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles list > > > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > > > > > If its nice out I lead. > > > > > > > > Glenn Dysart > > > > dysart@XXXXXX > > > > > > > > 84 V30 Magna > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain > > again! > > > > > Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last > > > > > weekend? > > > > > Curtis? Still wanna lead? > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 06:55:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA18871; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA27385; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA13472; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:00:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "Clements, Curtis A" , "'DC-Cycles list'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:00:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) I don't know, how far can you go? Your the light weight who doesn't like to go very far :-). Can we make it any earlier then 11:00? That's late for me and I usually party hardy on Saturday nights. > -----Original Message----- > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:02 AM > To: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN; 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > Glenn, where do you plan to led us to? > > ---------- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:42 AM > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles list > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > Cool! Same place - Krispy Kreme - same time - what was it? 11?? > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:43 AM > > To: O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles list > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > If its nice out I lead. > > > > Glenn Dysart > > dysart@XXXXXX > > > > 84 V30 Magna > > > > > > > I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! > > > Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last > > > weekend? > > > Curtis? Still wanna lead? > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 08:04:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19237; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:04:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA27677; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA14161; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:04:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA06133 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:03:39 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:03:39 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:05:52 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 23 TEXT >... there are suggestions that the 5.56 round actually >does more damage than the 7.62(x39? you know the Combloc rounds are >shorter and slower than the NATO equivelent) due to the fact that it >tumbles in the target after impact. Not that old bit again - 'taint true (at least, it doesn't tumble any more than any other round). Primary damage is via hydrostatic shock due to the velocity of the round (energy is mass x the square of velocity). If you want to see something spectacular, take a plastic milk jug fill of water (preferably dyed for visibility (red is popular (for a number of reasons))) on a cold, crisp morning (so the plastic is brittle) and hit it with a round from a good varmint rifle (I like my 22-250). It's amazing what a 55 grain bullet travelling at 3,800 fps can do. Michael (man of no little experience (and even less reluctance to share it)) Jordan USAF (Ret.) AMA IBA NRA etc. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 08:19:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19399; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:19:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA27797; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA14380; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:19:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA06967 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:18:55 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:18:55 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'DC-Cycles list'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: shooting! Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:21:08 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 10 TEXT >Hrm, does that mean I strap on my Anshutz and Finwerkbau rifles for the next trip? Lessee now, if I bring my Anschutz (nowhere as nice as yours) we could do a variation of the biathlon... :-) Wonder how the local gendarmerie would react?? Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 08:54:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19699; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA27965; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:54:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA14868; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:54:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from KZBV (CHERYPT3-P03.NIPR.MIL [33.26.250.40]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA14102 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:59:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3506976B.E04D2D20@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:53:47 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Florida X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings from sunny Florida! It was really neat to see the forecast on the weather channel this morning before I left for work. "Sunny and Cold, high near 60" There are frost warnings for tomorrow. All I can think of is that it's going to be sunny and dry for my ride home tomorrow. I've only done 1500 miles in the last week. That isn't much considering it was nearly 800 just to get down here. I didn't see much of bike week, but there sure were a lot of bikes around. Taking the bike for a business trip is the way to do it. It will be nice to get home though. I don't think I could live down here, I'd probably get used to the warm weather and not want to ride other places. Leon. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 09:18:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19893; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:18:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28201; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:18:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15299; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:18:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA17548; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:18:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:13:30 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E66BA@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Gil M. Nissley'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:14:47 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain 1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick. > -----Original Message----- > From: Gil M. Nissley [SMTP:gnissley@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 7:17 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Meier, Christopher wrote: > > Congrats!!! > > Ditto. > > > Hmmm. Let's see here ... > > Bachelor Party = Crow Bar > > Rehearsal dinner = Payne's > > Reception = ??? > > Crow bar?At least do it proper at a nudie bar.Hey,I know a cool > place up in Jersey.We could do a long-distance ride.I know some > twisties along the way. ;-) > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT > > Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 09:22:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19935; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28240; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15391; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:22:32 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565C4.004EBD32 ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:20:02 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C4.004ED89C.00@ams-central-gate-5.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:23:43 -0500 Subject: RE: Non-moto related: shooting! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=b2lJCnsPBTOH2G1JT1XRlQsn7F5f4QoCAYBy3D12yMauwjLO2fJnzIQE" --0__=b2lJCnsPBTOH2G1JT1XRlQsn7F5f4QoCAYBy3D12yMauwjLO2fJnzIQE Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I fired an Anshutz once...nobody can believe that we had a rifle team at my high school...is our school the only one? I mean, there must've been other schools since we had meets and such. Just my luck my eyesight started to go in 10th grade...the glasses didn't work well with those sights :-( Anyone know of ranges in the area where you can go, rent a pistol and buy some ammo, and just fire off some rounds at targets? I'm not a big gun type but its something I've wanted to try for a while... -Doug (Embedded image moved "Jordan, Michael" at AMS-Internet to file: 03/11/98 08:36 AM PIC07735.PCX) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL cc: Douglas Brashear Subject: RE: Non-moto related: shooting! >Hrm, does that mean I strap on my Anshutz and Finwerkbau rifles for the next trip? Lessee now, if I bring my Anschutz (nowhere as nice as yours) we could do a variation of the biathlon... :-) Wonder how the local gendarmerie would react?? Michael J. 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I got my '85 VF 6 months ago - my first bike - and LOVE it!! Brian McCoy's the one who was parting his out but I'm not sure if he has anything left of it. I bought some of the parts off of it myself. Hope to see you on a ride soon! - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 09:55:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20519; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:55:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28569; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16126; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id VWCYa14703; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:54:33 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:54:33 EST To: rdt@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Another Sat. Ride? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/10/98 6:45:17 PM, rdt@XXXXXX wrote: <> that sounds good to me! (if I have time) Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 09:59:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20570; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28600; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:59:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from tangerine.uucom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16231; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from tangerine.uucom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tangerine.uucom.com (8.8.8/8.8.6/970102ccg) with ESMTP id JAA06881; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:57:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803111457.JAA06881@tangerine.uucom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Gil M. Nissley" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Matthew Whalen Subject: Re: Buell Recall, was Daytona 200 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:32:54." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:57:15 -0500 Sender: mwhalen@XXXXXX I think I heard "Gil M. Nissley" say: > This recall is for the turn signal idiot light.It can sometimes >flash even when the signal is burned out.I'm still looking into >the brake recall.Court from Buell says its something different than >my prob,but I've heard from two Buell owners who said it *is* the >same prob I'm having.To recap;the floating washers on my front rotor >are hitting my brake caliper.Not cool. My brake recall was for a pin that they said could some loose and "prevent wheel rotation." It took all of a couple minutes to have it replaced. I haven't taken it in for the turn signal thing yet...seems pretty petty to me. -matthew From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 10:02:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20614; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:02:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28643; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:01:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16329; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id TMVFa21407; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:01:12 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <43d08ca9.3506a73b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:01:12 EST To: hgg@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Day 2: Deal's Gap Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/10/98 10:54:54 PM, hgg@XXXXXX wrote: << Quit your job, leave your SO, and ride to Deal's Gap. You will not regret it. Even if you don't ride it, the roads to and from it are worth it.>> so when are we all going guys? (and girls ;D ) I'm actually drooling......... Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 10:12:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20752; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:12:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28822; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:12:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16657; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id LPKAa04959; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:11:29 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:11:29 EST To: jlobrien@XXXXXX, gnissley@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> I'd have to agree. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 10:29:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20960; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28982; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17178; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:29:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (port42.annex4.radix.net [209.48.225.170]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA21570; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:26:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3506D69C.7972@radix.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:23:24 -0800 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian McCoy CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Non-moto related: shooting! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<>> Now I don't feel so bad about spending $400 on a Beeman pellet rifle. Do you shoot in competion, Brian? I shot in NRA .22 competion from age 12 to 19. I forget which model .22 target rifle I owned, but boy was it heavy! Richard From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 10:31:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21001; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29002; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:31:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from DONALD.CDER.FDA.GOV by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17246; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:31:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr.cder.fda.gov by fdaserv.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.1-8 #21467) id <01IUJBXG49SW8ZF8M8@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:25:50 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:23:54 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta DONALD; Relayed; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:23:54 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:23:46 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy 301-594-5672 FAX 301-480-8329 Subject: Tazewell/Rte 16 ride plan was Re: Ride Sunday In-reply-to: To: DC Cycles Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:23:47 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: E1176IHB28MEP X400-MTS-identifier: [;45320111308991/2418842@FDACD] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 >Wow, your up to 7 hour rides now? Maybe we can get you on one of >those US 33 and US 250 rides to WV this summer? Ooh, ooh, I'm in! Oh, wait, that wasn't a ride announcement... I wonder when the mountains will be ready for riding. I've put some choice rubber on the Hawk and I need to hit some good roads before I wear them out (it's amazing how much more quickly you can turns with tires that haven't been flattened in the middle by commuting). I know that Todd has planned a Deal's Gap run and I'd like to try to set-up another long one a little later in the year, maybe late June or early July (to avoid too much "competition" with the late May run to Deal's Gap and to give us a little more warmth when 1 mile above sea level). This ride will hit the roads around Rte 16 in southern Virginia (Deal's Gap or this area are considered THE BEST east coast rides. I haven't been to Deal's Gap but Rte 16 and the surrounding area is amazing). I will probably run south through the back roads of WV one day, stay over in Princeton, WV and do a big ride the next day, and finally make another back roads run (or maybe the BRP) for the return on the last day. I like to ride at a comfortably quick pace (like a Glenn or Todd pace) but anyone is welcome to come along so long as you go at your own pace (waiting is not a problem, it's a mini-vacation after all). If you have an interest and a date preference (choices: June 19-21, June 27-28, July 10-12, another date?) let me know. Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 10:47:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21274; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29282; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17925; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA16838 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:46:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA19949 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:46:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980311154643.RELZ27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:46:43 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:46 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Day 2: Deal's Gap X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980311154643.RELZ27160@[166.41.242.141]> Everyone should plan for Memorial Day weekend. Leave afternoon of May 21 (nlt 3pm). Any objections? It's a long weekend and there will probably be more traffic than usual, but nothing to worry about. Todd From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <43d08ca9.3506a73b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:01:12 EST To: hgg@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Day 2: Deal's Gap In a message dated 3/10/98 10:54:54 PM, hgg@XXXXXX wrote: << Quit your job, leave your SO, and ride to Deal's Gap. You will not regret it. Even if you don't ride it, the roads to and from it are worth it.>> so when are we all going guys? (and girls ;D ) I'm actually drooling......... Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 10:52:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21320; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:52:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29308; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18035; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (port42.annex4.radix.net [209.48.225.170]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA24385 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:52:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3506DCAC.4BDE@radix.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:49:16 -0800 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: CW Address? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I looked in a few issues of Cycle World, Gil, but could find no email address. Sorry. Do you know how easy it is to get side-tracked when looking through back issues of motorcycle magazines, realizing you neglected to read certain articles? Now I'm mad at myself for subscribing to 12 motorcycle magazines and not reading every one cover to cover. Now I think I might need therapy. Thanks, Gil. :-| Richard From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 10:59:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21483; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29445; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:59:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18427; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:59:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from my-workstation (client196-127-35.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.35]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id KAA10105; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:55:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980311105345.009d0e70@wingate> X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:53:45 -0500 To: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: shooting! In-Reply-To: <852565C4.004ED89C.00@ams-central-gate-5.amsinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I think you can do this at most ranges. The few I know are up towards Baltimore, so I don't know if I can help with specifics. MET At 09:23 AM 3/11/98 -0500, Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX wrote: >Anyone know of ranges in the area where you can go, rent a pistol and buy >some ammo, and just fire off some rounds at targets? I'm not a big gun >type but its something I've wanted to try for a while... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 11:07:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA21709; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:07:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29772; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA18828; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:07:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4CDD.AB630A80@XXXXXX>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:05:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: Day 2: Deal's Gap Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:05:57 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 50 TEXT Works for me - where are we meeting so that we can have Louis put it on the Web page - suggestion could be Cracker Barrel in Manassas right off of RT 66 (aren't we going that way?). Nice parking lot with lots of room if we need to load/unload stuff. I will definitely provide the "chase" vehicle and kids. Should be plenty of room for stuff you may want to bring. Would like to have an idea of who may be wanting to load stuff in the car so that I know how I should pack. Looking good so far. Thanks for the Web Page, Lou! Tracy ---------- From: Todd Peer[SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 10:46 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Day 2: Deal's Gap Everyone should plan for Memorial Day weekend. Leave afternoon of May 21 (nlt 3pm). Any objections? It's a long weekend and there will probably be more traffic than usual, but nothing to worry about. Todd From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <43d08ca9.3506a73b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:01:12 EST To: hgg@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Day 2: Deal's Gap In a message dated 3/10/98 10:54:54 PM, hgg@XXXXXX wrote: << Quit your job, leave your SO, and ride to Deal's Gap. You will not regret it. Even if you don't ride it, the roads to and from it are worth it.>> so when are we all going guys? (and girls ;D ) I'm actually drooling......... Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 11:10:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA21735; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29822; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:10:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA18976; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:10:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA23242; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:10:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA07530; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:10:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980311161002.RHXW27160@[166.41.242.141]>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:10:02 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:01 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Kirk Roy 301-594-5672 FAX 301-480-8329 CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Tazewell/Rte 16 ride plan was Re: Ride Sunday X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980311161002.RHXW27160@[166.41.242.141]> Kirk, Bill Sowers is having an event (non-event) out of Princeton very soon (Early May??). I'll find out the date and let you know. The dates your listing won't work for me personally since I will be heading out to the SW for vacation end of june through most of July. Todd <<<< >Wow, your up to 7 hour rides now? Maybe we can get you on one of >those US 33 and US 250 rides to WV this summer? Ooh, ooh, I'm in! Oh, wait, that wasn't a ride announcement... I wonder when the mountains will be ready for riding. I've put some choice rubber on the Hawk and I need to hit some good roads before I wear them out (it's amazing how much more quickly you can turns with tires that haven't been flattened in the middle by commuting). I know that Todd has planned a Deal's Gap run and I'd like to try to set-up another long one a little later in the year, maybe late June or early July (to avoid too much "competition" with the late May run to Deal's Gap and to give us a little more warmth when 1 mile above sea level). This ride will hit the roads around Rte 16 in southern Virginia (Deal's Gap or this area are considered THE BEST east coast rides. I haven't been to Deal's Gap but Rte 16 and the surrounding area is amazing). I will probably run south through the back roads of WV one day, stay over in Princeton, WV and do a big ride the next day, and finally make another back roads run (or maybe the BRP) for the return on the last day. I like to ride at a comfortably quick pace (like a Glenn or Todd pace) but anyone is welcome to come along so long as you go at your own pace (waiting is not a problem, it's a mini-vacation after all). If you have an interest and a date preference (choices: June 19-21, June 27-28, July 10-12, another date?) let me know. Kirk >>>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 11:21:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA21886; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00233; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19368; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:13 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA22199 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199803111621.AA22199@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:41 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:41 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:19:40 -0500 Subject: RE: Non-moto related: shooting! To: true@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980311105345.009d0e70@wingate> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="RE: Non-moto related: shooting!"; charset=us-ascii Blue Ridge Arsenal in Chantilly has rentals..if I remember correctly it was around $5 per hour plus cost of the brass and paper.. cheers, -aki > > I think you can do this at most ranges. The few I know are up towards > Baltimore, so I don't know if I can help with specifics. > > MET > > At 09:23 AM 3/11/98 -0500, Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX wrote: > >Anyone know of ranges in the area where you can go, rent a pistol and buy > >some ammo, and just fire off some rounds at targets? I'm not a big gun > >type but its something I've wanted to try for a while... > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ > Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ > Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs > ======================================================================= > > > X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 12:09:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23263; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:09:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01348; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:09:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlt5.dlt.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA22436; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:09:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803111709.MAA22436@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: from ANITA by dlt5.dlt.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id F4V74MPY; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:18:13 -0500 X-Sender: 2xracers@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:09:27 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: Westerly Sunday Ride In-Reply-To: <199803102338.SAA13013@smtp1.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Okay, here's the scoop for those wanting to head west on Sunday -- We'll be following Trip #11 "Mosby's Confederacy" from Dale Coyner's book, but starting from Middleburg rather than Front Royal. The plan is to meet at the Exxon in Middleburg, hitting the road at 11 am or so. To quote Dale: "Route passes through upper Piedmont along twisty back roads, makes a brief excursion into West Virginia, returns over a mountain pass, then travels more Piedmont roads running parallel to Blue Ridge. Highlights: The Plains, Middleburg, Summit Point Raceway, Charles Town, Harper's Ferry, Sky Meadows State Park." Distance will be 160 miles round trip, starting and ending in Middleburg. I'm familiar with some of the roads (Snickersville Turnpike, Route 9 from Harpers Ferry to Hillsboro, Route 626 from The Plains to Middleburg), and it should be a lot of fun. Parts of the ride will probably be chilly (WV) but so far the weather forecast is for low 50's. Drop me an email if you think you'd like to join in... Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 12:16:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23388; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01537; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA22725; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:28 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA25131 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199803111716.AA25131@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:58 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:58 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:04:26 -0500 Subject: OK..think my prob with mail is fixed To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199803111621.AA22199@egate2.citicorp.com> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="OK..think my prob with mail is fixed"; charset=us-ascii well folks...I *hope* the mail readability problem has finally been resolved here..can anyone who *couldn't* read my posts before, please let me know if it looks ok and readable now? tks! -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 12:16:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23391; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01531; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA22720; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id MAA21351; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:23:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:23:31 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: "Mark E. Truelove" cc: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Non-moto related: shooting! In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980311105345.009d0e70@wingate> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There's one in Forestville and also off of 175 near the B-W Parkway. On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Mark E. Truelove wrote: > > I think you can do this at most ranges. The few I know are up towards > Baltimore, so I don't know if I can help with specifics. > > MET > > At 09:23 AM 3/11/98 -0500, Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX wrote: > >Anyone know of ranges in the area where you can go, rent a pistol and buy > >some ammo, and just fire off some rounds at targets? I'm not a big gun > >type but its something I've wanted to try for a while... > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ > Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ > Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs > ======================================================================= > -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 12:51:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23854; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02000; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23831; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:51:02 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565C4.00624F07 ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:53:47 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C4.00618508.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:50:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=9MMnaDmR77kR90GhxX8sgofKLMVD72J6uZRDJo3ue9yXks2HPoDv5jjU" --0__=9MMnaDmR77kR90GhxX8sgofKLMVD72J6uZRDJo3ue9yXks2HPoDv5jjU Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just a couple of questions concerning Sunday's ride...where's Middleburg, and how do I get there from Arlington? :-) What road is the Exxon on (or is it a one-gas-station town)? And last but not least, this is *the*ride for Sunday, right (don't want to sound like an ingrate, hehehe, but if there's a more local ride I'd probably opt for that...but beggars can't be choosers, so I'll take what I can get!). Sounds like a nice day trip (providing Middleburg isn't in Georgia)...I'm adopting a puppy this Friday and wanted to be home all weekend so she gets comfortable in the place, but I can spare a few hours :-) -Doug douglas_brashear@XXXXXX (Embedded image moved Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> at AMS-Internet to file: 03/11/98 12:31 PM PIC09403.PCX) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL cc: Douglas Brashear Subject: Westerly Sunday Ride Okay, here's the scoop for those wanting to head west on Sunday -- We'll be following Trip #11 "Mosby's Confederacy" from Dale Coyner's book, but starting from Middleburg rather than Front Royal. The plan is to meet at the Exxon in Middleburg, hitting the road at 11 am or so. To quote Dale: "Route passes through upper Piedmont along twisty back roads, makes a brief excursion into West Virginia, returns over a mountain pass, then travels more Piedmont roads running parallel to Blue Ridge. Highlights: The Plains, Middleburg, Summit Point Raceway, Charles Town, Harper's Ferry, Sky Meadows State Park." Distance will be 160 miles round trip, starting and ending in Middleburg. I'm familiar with some of the roads (Snickersville Turnpike, Route 9 from Harpers Ferry to Hillsboro, Route 626 from The Plains to Middleburg), and it should be a lot of fun. Parts of the ride will probably be chilly (WV) but so far the weather forecast is for low 50's. Drop me an email if you think you'd like to join in... 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I'm going on that one 'cause it's a lot closer for me. - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX > [SMTP:Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 12:51 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride > > Just a couple of questions concerning Sunday's ride...where's > Middleburg, > and how do I get there from Arlington? :-) > What road is the Exxon on (or is it a one-gas-station town)? And last > but > not least, this is *the*ride for Sunday, right (don't want to sound > like an > ingrate, hehehe, but if there's a more local ride I'd probably opt for > that...but beggars can't be choosers, so I'll take what I can get!). > > Sounds like a nice day trip (providing Middleburg isn't in > Georgia)...I'm > adopting a puppy this Friday and wanted to be home all weekend so she > gets > comfortable in the place, but I can spare a few hours :-) > > -Doug > douglas_brashear@XXXXXX > > > > > > (Embedded > image moved Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> at AMS-Internet > to file: 03/11/98 12:31 PM > PIC09403.PCX) > > > > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL > cc: Douglas Brashear > Subject: Westerly Sunday Ride > > > Okay, here's the scoop for those wanting to head west on Sunday -- > > We'll be following Trip #11 "Mosby's Confederacy" from Dale Coyner's > book, > but starting from Middleburg rather than Front Royal. The plan is to > meet > at the Exxon in Middleburg, hitting the road at 11 am or so. > > To quote Dale: > > "Route passes through upper Piedmont along twisty back roads, makes a > brief > excursion into West Virginia, returns over a mountain pass, then > travels > more Piedmont roads running parallel to Blue Ridge. Highlights: The > Plains, > Middleburg, Summit Point Raceway, Charles Town, Harper's Ferry, Sky > Meadows > State Park." > > Distance will be 160 miles round trip, starting and ending in > Middleburg. > > I'm familiar with some of the roads (Snickersville Turnpike, Route 9 > from > Harpers Ferry to Hillsboro, Route 626 from The Plains to Middleburg), > and > it should be a lot of fun. Parts of the ride will probably be chilly > (WV) > but so far the weather forecast is for low 50's. > > Drop me an email if you think you'd like to join in... > > Anita > > > (See attached file: RFC822.TXT) > > > << File: PIC09403.PCX >> << File: Text - character set unknown >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 13:27:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24525; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:26:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02785; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlt5.dlt.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA25213; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:26:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803111826.NAA25213@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: from ANITA by dlt5.dlt.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id F4V74MSR; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:35:45 -0500 X-Sender: 2xracers@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:26:58 -0500 To: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <852565C4.00618508.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:50 PM 3/11/98 -0500, you wrote: >Just a couple of questions concerning Sunday's ride...where's Middleburg, >and how do I get there from Arlington? :-) >What road is the Exxon on (or is it a one-gas-station town)? And last but >not least, this is *the*ride for Sunday, right (don't want to sound like an >ingrate, hehehe, but if there's a more local ride I'd probably opt for >that...but beggars can't be choosers, so I'll take what I can get!). Well, this Sunday you get your choice of two rides! One starting from Rte 1 in Alexandria, and the one starting from Middleburg, VA. Middleburg is on Route 50, quite a ways west of Arlington. You could take 50 all the way (probably not a good idea!), or maybe Rte 66 West to Fair Oaks Mall, where it intersects Route 50. If you can check a map, Middleburg is west of the intersection of Route 50 and Route 15. It is a small town (very popular with the well-to-do horsey set), and Route 50 runs right smack through it. The Exxon is on Route 50 (which side, Todd?). >From Arlington my guess is that Rte 1 is closer to you, but you'll have to judge that for yourself! :) Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 13:30:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24644; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02933; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:30:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA25413; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:30:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4CF1.0510FA70@XXXXXX>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:24:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:24:28 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Middleburg is straight out Rt. 50 into the foot hills.... just stay on 50.... and yes... it's the only Exxon station in town. Can't miss it. -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX >[SMTP:Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 12:51 PM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride > >Just a couple of questions concerning Sunday's ride...where's Middleburg, >and how do I get there from Arlington? :-) >What road is the Exxon on (or is it a one-gas-station town)? And last but >not least, this is *the*ride for Sunday, right (don't want to sound like an >ingrate, hehehe, but if there's a more local ride I'd probably opt for >that...but beggars can't be choosers, so I'll take what I can get!). > >Sounds like a nice day trip (providing Middleburg isn't in Georgia)...I'm >adopting a puppy this Friday and wanted to be home all weekend so she gets >comfortable in the place, but I can spare a few hours :-) > >-Doug >douglas_brashear@XXXXXX > > > > > > (Embedded > image moved Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> at AMS-Internet > to file: 03/11/98 12:31 PM > PIC09403.PCX) > > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL >cc: Douglas Brashear >Subject: Westerly Sunday Ride > > >Okay, here's the scoop for those wanting to head west on Sunday -- > >We'll be following Trip #11 "Mosby's Confederacy" from Dale Coyner's book, >but starting from Middleburg rather than Front Royal. The plan is to meet >at the Exxon in Middleburg, hitting the road at 11 am or so. > >To quote Dale: > >"Route passes through upper Piedmont along twisty back roads, makes a brief >excursion into West Virginia, returns over a mountain pass, then travels >more Piedmont roads running parallel to Blue Ridge. Highlights: The Plains, >Middleburg, Summit Point Raceway, Charles Town, Harper's Ferry, Sky Meadows >State Park." > >Distance will be 160 miles round trip, starting and ending in Middleburg. > >I'm familiar with some of the roads (Snickersville Turnpike, Route 9 from >Harpers Ferry to Hillsboro, Route 626 from The Plains to Middleburg), and >it should be a lot of fun. Parts of the ride will probably be chilly (WV) >but so far the weather forecast is for low 50's. > >Drop me an email if you think you'd like to join in... > >Anita > > >(See attached file: RFC822.TXT) > > > > << File: PIC09403.PCX >> << File: RFC822.TXT >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 13:40:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24801; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:40:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03136; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA25804; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id NAA03041 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:39:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA02766 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:39:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980311183927.SBOR27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:39:27 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:38 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980311183927.SBOR27160@[166.41.242.141]> >It is a small town (very popular >with the well-to-do horsey set), and Route 50 runs right smack through it. >The Exxon is on Route 50 (which side, Todd?). The Exxon is the first gasoline station on the east side of town. Can't miss it on the right, coming from the DC side. T From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 13:43:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24853; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03174; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA25953; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4CF3.66B9D2E0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:41:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: OK..think my prob with mail is fixed Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:41:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 19 TEXT Some of the letters are missing from thanks but other than that you're coming in loud and clear....only kidding on the tks. tracy ---------- From: aki.damme@XXXXXX[SMTP:aki.damme@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 12:04 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: OK..think my prob with mail is fixed well folks...I *hope* the mail readability problem has finally been resolved here..can anyone who *couldn't* read my posts before, please let me know if it looks ok and readable now? tks! -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 14:00:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25197; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:00:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03792; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA26702; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:00:37 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA29933 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:01:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199803111901.AA29933@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:01:05 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:01:05 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:01:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:58:36 -0500 Subject: RE: OK..think my prob with mail is fixed To: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="RE: OK..think my prob with mail is fixed"; charset=us-ascii woo! woo! I'm back in the saddle again! Now..I GOTTA figure out how I can smooze my SO into taking my Magna so I can buy that Softtail Custom or the Valkre or the 1500 Vulcan or the Shadow or the Royal Star or... ..sigh*..so many bikes.. so little money... 8-P cheers, -aki > Some of the letters are missing from thanks but other than that you're coming in > loud and clear....only kidding on the tks. > > tracy > > ---------- > From: aki.damme@XXXXXX[SMTP:aki.damme@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 12:04 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: OK..think my prob with mail is fixed > > > well folks...I *hope* the mail readability problem has > finally been resolved here..can anyone who *couldn't* > read my posts before, please let me know if it looks > ok and readable now? > > tks! > -aki > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 14:17:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25435; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04663; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:17:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA27335; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:17:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA19779 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:17:32 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:17:32 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:19:13 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 5 TEXT I'm in on the western ride for Sunday at this time - plans subject to change (as usual) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 14:49:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25848; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:49:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05322; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:47:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA28246; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:47:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id OAA03438 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:47:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA22293 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:47:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980311194707.FYBS4928@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:47:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:34 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980311194707.FYBS4928@[166.41.242.141]> >I'm in on the western ride for Sunday at this time - plans subject to >change (as usual) > >Michael J. So, just you Anita and me? Oh well, it'll make for a fairly spirited ride w/o congestion. Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 14:57:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25965; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05903; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA28555; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:57:09 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565C4.006C4CA5 ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:42:55 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C4.006BA6E2.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:39:07 -0500 Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=kF5E1yERonDAvotcOahk2KsjoxqSOhRjb2UqF94nP34JAgvDW9Oh4hHU" --0__=kF5E1yERonDAvotcOahk2KsjoxqSOhRjb2UqF94nP34JAgvDW9Oh4hHU Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks for all the info, y'all...looks like I'm going to do the local donut ride from Alexandria for a number of reasons, the not the least of them being the fact that Krispy Kreme donuts are the best out of the box, I can't even fathom what they're like warm! :-P Also, being the first ride in a while for the bike, I want to take it easy and watch that small crack in the case :-O See ya Sunday! -Doug douglas_brashear@XXXXXX P.S. - thanks to everyone who forwarded information about the shooting ranges...I'll let you know which place I try! (Embedded image moved "O'Brien, Jeannette" at to file: AMS-Internet PIC14896.PCX) 03/11/98 01:41 PM To: Douglas Brashear, dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL cc: Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Nope, there's another Sunday ride leaving from Alexandria Krispy Kreme at 10AM. I'm going on that one 'cause it's a lot closer for me. - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX > [SMTP:Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 12:51 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride > > Just a couple of questions concerning Sunday's ride...where's > Middleburg, > and how do I get there from Arlington? :-) > What road is the Exxon on (or is it a one-gas-station town)? And last > but > not least, this is *the*ride for Sunday, right (don't want to sound > like an > ingrate, hehehe, but if there's a more local ride I'd probably opt for > that...but beggars can't be choosers, so I'll take what I can get!). > > Sounds like a nice day trip (providing Middleburg isn't in > Georgia)...I'm > adopting a puppy this Friday and wanted to be home all weekend so she > gets > comfortable in the place, but I can spare a few hours :-) > > -Doug > douglas_brashear@XXXXXX > > > > > > (Embedded > image moved Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> at AMS-Internet > to file: 03/11/98 12:31 PM > PIC09403.PCX) > > > > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL > cc: Douglas Brashear > Subject: Westerly Sunday Ride > > > Okay, here's the scoop for those wanting to head west on Sunday -- > > We'll be following Trip #11 "Mosby's Confederacy" from Dale Coyner's > book, > but starting from Middleburg rather than Front Royal. The plan is to > meet > at the Exxon in Middleburg, hitting the road at 11 am or so. > > To quote Dale: > > "Route passes through upper Piedmont along twisty back roads, makes a > brief > excursion into West Virginia, returns over a mountain pass, then > travels > more Piedmont roads running parallel to Blue Ridge. Highlights: The > Plains, > Middleburg, Summit Point Raceway, Charles Town, Harper's Ferry, Sky > Meadows > State Park." > > Distance will be 160 miles round trip, starting and ending in > Middleburg. > > I'm familiar with some of the roads (Snickersville Turnpike, Route 9 > from > Harpers Ferry to Hillsboro, Route 626 from The Plains to Middleburg), > and > it should be a lot of fun. 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Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29260 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:01:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803112001.PAA29260@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:01:34 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <19980311194707.FYBS4928@[166.41.242.141]> from "Todd Peer " at Mar 11, 98 02:34:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I'm in on the western ride for Sunday at this time - plans subject to > >change (as usual) > > > >Michael J. > > So, just you Anita and me? Oh well, it'll make for a fairly spirited > ride w/o congestion. > > Todd The Concours Owners Group is having a ride starting out near Annapolis, so I'll be in the other direction. Sorry gang, I won't be at either of the rides. I have updated the dc-cycles unofficial ride page (www.clark.net/pub/louis/dc-rides.htm) with the latest info I have. (My e-mail has been really screwy lately, so let me know if I missed anything. Thanks for the kudos Tracy! I think you are awfully brave spending days in a car with kids, following everyone else on motorcycles. Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 15:13:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26209; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:13:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06524; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA29272; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:13:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA27050 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:13:00 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:13:00 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:15:12 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 10 TEXT >Krispy Kreme donuts are the best out of the box Had you considered picking up a dozen or so and bringing them out to Middleburg? See - always thinking of yourself Sniff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 15:21:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26425; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06860; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA29584; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:20:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA18571; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:20:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA17239; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:20:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980311202009.SNNV27160@XXXXXX>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:20:09 -0600 Message-ID: <3506F1F5.2D4A770F@mci.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:20:05 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Louis F. Caplan" CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride References: <199803112001.PAA29260@shell.clark.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brave isn't the word I used for it, but I guess it's appropriate. :-) (I know how bad my kids can be...) Dale (the Horkster) Louis F. Caplan wrote: > > ..I think you are awfully brave spending days > in a car with kids, following everyone else on motorcycles. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 15:32:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26633; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07215; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:32:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA00027; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:32:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id PAA15915; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:30:51 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6701@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Jordan, Michael'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:31:07 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Oh, but they are only the best served warm!! ...right from their ovens....when the sign triumphantly proclaims in red neon HOT DONUTS NOW Ooh, I can taste them now! : ) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Jordan, Michael [SMTP:mike@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 3:15 PM > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride > > >Krispy Kreme donuts are the best out of the box > > Had you considered picking up a dozen or so and bringing them out to > Middleburg? > > See - always thinking of yourself > > Sniff > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 16:56:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA28447; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:56:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08003; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:55:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlt5.dlt.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA03643; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:55:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803112155.QAA03643@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: from ANITA by dlt5.dlt.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id F4V74M60; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:04:35 -0500 X-Sender: 2xracers@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:55:54 -0500 To: Todd Peer , From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride In-Reply-To: <19980311194707.FYBS4928@[166.41.242.141]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:34 PM 3/11/98 -0500, Todd Peer wrote: >So, just you Anita and me? Oh well, it'll make for a fairly spirited >ride w/o congestion. Well, you and Michael can flip a coin to see who'll lead! I'll be happy to bring up the rear, so as not to get in the way of anyone being "spirited." :) Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 17:00:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA28606; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:00:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08073; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:59:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlt5.dlt.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA03811; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:59:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803112159.QAA03811@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: from ANITA by dlt5.dlt.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id F4V74M7C; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:08:57 -0500 X-Sender: 2xracers@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:00:17 -0500 To: "Jordan, Michael" , From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:15 PM 3/11/98 -0800, Jordan, Michael wrote: >>Krispy Kreme donuts are the best out of the box > >Had you considered picking up a dozen or so and bringing them out to >Middleburg? > >See - always thinking of yourself > >Sniff Well, I'll have to check along my route from Sterling to Middleburg... has to be a Dunkin' Donuts or some such along the way! Nothing like a little sugar to get you going! :) Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 17:16:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA28936; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08341; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA04494; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:16:03 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA09178 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:16:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199803112216.AA09178@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:16:00 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:16:00 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:16:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:14:28 -0500 Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride To: 2xracers@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199803112159.QAA03811@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="RE: Westerly Sunday Ride"; charset=us-ascii there's a Dunkin Donuts in Herndon... -aki > At 12:15 PM 3/11/98 -0800, Jordan, Michael wrote: > >>Krispy Kreme donuts are the best out of the box > > > >Had you considered picking up a dozen or so and bringing them out to > >Middleburg? > > > >See - always thinking of yourself > > > >Sniff > > Well, I'll have to check along my route from Sterling to Middleburg... has > to be a Dunkin' Donuts or some such along the way! Nothing like a little > sugar to get you going! :) > > Anita > > X-Sender: 2xracers@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 17:27:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA29194; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:27:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08535; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:27:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from DONALD.CDER.FDA.GOV by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA05025; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr.cder.fda.gov by fdaserv.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.1-8 #21467) id <01IUJQQ9DFA88ZFC3L@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:29:25 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:26:21 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta DONALD; Relayed; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:26:21 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:19:37 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy Subject: Tracing charging problems To: dc-cycles Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:26:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal UA-content-id: E1182ZXHCOXML9 X400-MTS-identifier: [;12627111308991/2421200@FDACD] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 How does one go about testing the electrical system on a bike? I've had some problems with the Hawk being hard to start and although I'd like to go on ignoring it (particularly since it doesn't occur when it's warm) I'd better take care of it. So, what tools/testers/whatever do I need and what procedures should I follow? I'd also like to figure out what approximate rpm level will allow me to use my electric vest without killing the battery. Any help would be appreciated. Direct, in person help may result in the helper receiving a decent steak dinner (not to exclude vegetarians from helping)... or a hamburger if we don't find the source of the problem. :) Thanks, Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 17:59:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00174; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08801; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemini.smart.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06822; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from richard (max2p210.smart.net [206.97.127.210]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA13026 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:58:55 -0500 Message-ID: <350716AC.7D65@smart.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:56:44 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Gimer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride References: <19980311194707.FYBS4928@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Peer wrote: > > >I'm in on the western ride for Sunday at this time - plans subject to > >change (as usual) > > > >Michael J. > > So, just you Anita and me? Oh well, it'll make for a fairly spirited > ride w/o congestion. > > Todd I'd actually like to join you folks too if that is okay. Middleburg Exxon at what time on Sunday? -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 18:06:09 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA00275; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:06:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA08972; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemini.smart.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA07075; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from richard (max2p210.smart.net [206.97.127.210]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA13300 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:05:43 -0500 Message-ID: <35071842.6A9B@smart.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:03:30 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Gimer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Factory service manual for 93-95 CBR900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I posted this message a couple of weeks ago and got no response.... I have a Honda factory service manual for the bike above but no longer have the bike. If you could use the manual, please drop me an email and I'll send it out to you. -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 20:31:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA01898; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:31:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10198; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:30:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10541; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA28001; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:30:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv7-11.ix.netcom.com(205.184.22.139) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma027930; Wed Mar 11 19:29:27 1998 Message-ID: <3506F499.1528@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:31:21 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride References: <199803111709.MAA22436@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anita Lauro wrote: > > Okay, here's the scoop for those wanting to head west on Sunday -- > > We'll be following Trip #11 "Mosby's Confederacy" from Dale Coyner's book, > but starting from Middleburg rather than Front Royal. The plan is to meet > at the Exxon in Middleburg, hitting the road at 11 am or so. > > Drop me an email if you think you'd like to join in... > > Anita Well, it looks like I may actually get to meet some of you on Sunday, and I know the WV side of the route anyway ;) I hope to see you in Middleburg at 1100 am. Hope to see you then... -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 20:55:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA02137; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:55:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10547; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:55:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm07.itmassociates.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA11037; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm04.itmassociates.com ([207.205.217.70]) by itm07.itmassociates.com (Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) with SMTP id 852565C5.000A9930; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:55:46 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980312015534.0099e740@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: us004937@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:55:34 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Robert Space Subject: Re: 86 VF500F - parts and advice wanted First of all, can I get this list on a message by message basis, and not in digest form? About the exhaust. I am only aware of the Dale Walker exhaust system which is a little pricey (for now). I figured I would throw a used stock exhaust on until I decide the bike is worth pursuing. I assembled the motor using the shop manual, new rings, a seal here, a bearing there, had the heads checked out by a shop, etc. But it hasn't been started yet, so I just want to get it running before I start spending bucks on performance stuff. I will also need new tires once I get it started and it doesn't blow up after the first week. I'll take you up on the offer, I need all of the tips I can get. I just need to see a whole bike, because assembling this thing from scratch, just using the manual is a bitch. I feel like the Fonz putting his bike back together when he was temporarily blind (sorry for the bad 80's reference). Thanks Rob Space 86 VF500F >Subject: Re: 86 VF500F - New Lister, parts and advice wanted > >>My neighbor gave me an 86 VF500F Interceptor for FREE, but it had one major >>problem...it was completely disassembled and missing 10-15% of the parts. >>It seemed like the right bike, FREE, sporty, yet comfortable, and under >>600cc(insurance) but much better than any Rebel. > > Gave you? Man lucky guy! Interceptors are cool. I am totally >biased as my street bike is a '85 VF500f also. You will definately like it >better than the Rebel, much sportier, and much more power. >> >>What kind of approximate HP does a VF500 make stock? > > Well, it was touted as making 77hp stock, but that was when they >were measuring hp at the crank, I'd say that mine (piped and jetted) prob >makes about 55-60 or so. >> > >>I am missing most of the exhaust system. All I have in the down pipes off >>of the motor. > > You've got all the exhaust parts you need to put an aftermarket 4 >into 1 system on it which I definately recommend. I put a Hindle header >and can on mine and jetted it and it made loads of difference. You don't >want to put the stock crap on it as it is very restrictive and heavy as >hell. > > >>I still have to paint most of the body work. It came with some sort of >>aftermarket Full Fairing. It looks like some sort of composite material, >>but I'm pretty sure its just FGlass. Is this something I want to try to >>mount, or is it just a big waste of time? Will the bike look stupid with it >>on there? > > It's probably a telefix lower, I was actually given one of them >myself, got the mounting kit and decided not to put it on, I can let you >have the mounting stuff for a couple of bucks >> >>I also heard that someone on this list might be parting out a VF500, > > That is Senior, Brian McCoy (who has prob already read your mail) am I >>correct? If they could email me if the parts are still available, I need >>alot of knick-knack parts to finish the one I have. > > > If you are going to be working on it, I've got a few tidbit tricks >that I have learned fiddling with mine over the past few years that you >might want to know about, just e-mail me and let me know. Good luck with >the bike, the Baby R's are cool as hell! > >Ryan > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 20:56:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA02142; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:56:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10554; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:56:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm07.itmassociates.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA11045; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:56:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm04.itmassociates.com ([207.205.217.70]) by itm07.itmassociates.com (Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) with SMTP id 852565C5.000A9B6D; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:55:54 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980312015539.009385f8@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: us004937@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:55:39 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Robert Space Subject: Re: 86 VF500F - parts and advice wanted #2 Yeah about the petcock. Where do the vacuum lines go from the petcock? I heard one was to engine vacuum. Is it ported off of the carbs, or straight off of the head? Thanks Rob 86 VF500F >Subject: Re: 86 VF500F - New Lister, parts and advice wanted >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > >On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Robert Space wrote: >> What kind of approximate HP does a VF500 make stock? > > Honda claimed 68 for the '84-85 and 66 for the '86.The '86 was tuned >slightly different for more midrange.Keep this in mind when doing work >on the bike or remind the dealer if you ever take it in.Also,your '86 >has a gravity-feed fuel petcock,the other years had fuel pumps.Also >keep this in mind when working on the bike.I had a dealer service my >old '86 once and they tuned it wrong and wound up trashing the petcock. > >> I still have to paint most of the body work. It came with some sort of >> aftermarket Full Fairing. It looks like some sort of composite material, >> but I'm pretty sure its just FGlass. Is this something I want to try to >> mount, or is it just a big waste of time? Will the bike look stupid with it >> on there? > > I've seen both cool and ugly lowers for Baby 'ceptors.Lockhart I >think had the coolest.I can't see the lowers making that much of a >difference at normal road speeds,so I'd say it boils down to a matter >a personal taste.Put 'em on and decide if you think it looks cool or >not. > > >The official BuellBoy Genes model. > >gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT > >Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 21:15:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA02368; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:15:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA10721; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA11332; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:15:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-218-179.pitb.grid.net [207.205.218.179]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA13603 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:15:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980311211659.006a0f48@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:16:59 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Chilly Return on the BRP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, I'm back. After reviewing the chilly forecasts, I decided to spend the morning working the back roads and Blue Ridge Parkway from North Carolina to Virginia, then making a run for home once I ran out of daylight. As it turned out, I started out in 28 degree temps leaving Asheville and enjoyed beautifully sunny weather for most of the trip. Towards the end, though, as I was passing the Peaks of Otter Resort on the BRP, the temperature had dropped into the low twenties. By the time I was forced off the BRP by construction, it was 18 degrees amid snow flurries on 81. Thankfully, between my fairing and my riding gear, I stayed relatively comfortable for the dark ride east. Reviewing the GPS: Total miles: 1269 Average speed: 62.6 Max altitude: 4318 I'm ready to go back... once I warm up. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 00:28:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04485; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:28:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12828; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:27:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15062; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:27:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id ITAKa11851; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:26:42 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <84f7cfba.35077214@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:26:42 EST To: ROYK@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Tracing charging problems Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 I have the same problem as below on my CB-1 (excluding the vest issue) and offer the same deal ....... :D maybe we can double date ;D heh heh Marcy In a message dated 98-03-11 17:35:35 EST, ROYK@XXXXXX writes: << How does one go about testing the electrical system on a bike? I've had some problems with the Hawk being hard to start and although I'd like to go on ignoring it (particularly since it doesn't occur when it's warm) I'd better take care of it. So, what tools/testers/whatever do I need and what procedures should I follow? I'd also like to figure out what approximate rpm level will allow me to use my electric vest without killing the battery. Any help would be appreciated. Direct, in person help may result in the helper receiving a decent steak dinner (not to exclude vegetarians from helping)... or a hamburger if we don't find the source of the problem. >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 00:36:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04576; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:36:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12881; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:35:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15255; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:35:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1UGOa14620 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:35:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <4971633e.3507740f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:35:09 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: CB-1 for sale Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Boys and girls, the following is from my cb-1 list ....thought I'd forward it in case anyone wants to join me in CB-1 heaven :D:D:D Marcy Subj: FS: '89 CB-1 Date: 98-03-11 23:02:11 EST From: mragsdal@XXXXXX (Michael Ragsdale) Sender: cb-1@XXXXXX Reply-to: cb-1@XXXXXX To: cb-1@XXXXXX (Multiple recipients of list) Well, we have mixed emotions about this, but it looks like the CB-1 is for sale. Mel (my wife) is wanting to get into a 600cc bike and I'm wanting to upgrade from the Bandit. I got an offer I can't refuse on a VTR, so she's going to take over the Bandit. You all are familiar with the CB-1; I don't have to go into details like that, but the bike has 14,115 miles, everything on the bike is stock. The rear plastic panels have a few scrapes where bungee cords have scratched it and one small crack on the right side where the little sight window is for the rear brake resevoir. The side engine case covers have a few scrapes where the bike was tipped at zero mph while she was learning to ride. Other than that, the bike is in real good shape. Tires (BT-35) have about 2,000 miles. Asking $2500. Will negotiate. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Ragsdale '88 EX500 (Race) mragsdal@XXXXXX '96 Bandit 600 (Street) DoD #1672 WERA #895 AMA #554907 "If you've studied your Floyd properly, you'd know that pigs could fly." - Les Claypool From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 00:38:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04590; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12892; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:38:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15283; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA28094; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:34:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:28:57 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > I'd have to agree. Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be interested in. (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this place) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 00:51:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04708; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:51:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12983; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15414; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 5QFQa11553; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:49:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <11e62443.35077755@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:49:09 EST To: gnissley@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: nudie bars Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 LOL trust us, you'll like it :D In a message dated 98-03-12 00:43:34 EST, gnissley@XXXXXX writes: << Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be interested in. (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this place) >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 00:52:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04733; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12994; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15430; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:51:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA28152; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:47:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:37:27 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: CW Address? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3506DCAC.4BDE@radix.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Richard Wood wrote: > I looked in a few issues of Cycle World, Gil, but could find no email > address. Sorry. Couldn't find it either.Someone mailed it to me once,but I deleted the message. > Do you know how easy it is to get side-tracked when looking through back > issues of motorcycle magazines, realizing you neglected to read certain > articles? Now I'm mad at myself for subscribing to 12 motorcycle > magazines and not reading every one cover to cover. > Now I think I might need therapy. > Thanks, Gil. :-| Deal with it.I subscribe to 7,buy two others regularly,and pick up about 8 or 9 others on occation.With different crap at work,I've been backed up in my reading and now have a stack of mags a good foot-and-a -half tall.I've got issues of _HRB_ back to July that haven't been touched! The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 00:54:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04748; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:54:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA13019; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:54:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15471; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:54:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from my-workstation (client196-127-46.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.46]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id AAA06201; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:52:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980312004820.00845540@wingate> X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:48:20 -0500 To: Morris Berman From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: shooting! Cc: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19980311105345.009d0e70@wingate> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The one off 175 is On Target. I've shot there, nice facility, with a classroom for training and stuff on the premises. That's as far south as my informoation goes, though! MET At 12:23 PM 3/11/98 -0500, Morris Berman wrote: >There's one in Forestville and also off of 175 near the B-W Parkway. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 02:27:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA05333; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 02:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA17089; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 02:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA16583; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 02:26:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id CAA21644; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 02:25:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 02:25:03 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: Richard Wood cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Non-moto related: shooting! In-Reply-To: <3506D69C.7972@radix.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yea, I used to be a big-wig in that scene (for my age). Started shooting when I was 8.. I took WY state championship in .22 by 16, held that title in .22 till I was 20, and the air rifle from 17-20. Winter of 90, I was ranked 3rd nationaly as a Jr in Air rifle, and 5th in .22 - Summer of 92 I was invited to CO Springs, CO to train with the U.S. Olympic shooting development team.. blah.. Oh, my .22 weighed in at 26lbs - before attachments *grin* .. now, about my 50cal black-powder bazooka.... On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Richard Wood wrote: > Do you shoot in competion, Brian? I shot in NRA .22 competion from age > 12 to 19. I forget which model .22 target rifle I owned, but boy was it > heavy! > > Richard > Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 07:11:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA07475; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:11:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA01362; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA19540; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:10:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28878; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:10:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01902; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:10:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803121210.HAA01902@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) To: gnissley@XXXXXX (Gil M. Nissley" ) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:10:35 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: from "Gil M. Nissley" " at Mar 12, 98 00:28:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: > > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > I'd have to agree. > > Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two > females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be > interested in. > (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this place) I went there about 7 years ago when I was in DC doing a co-op job. From what I remember, it was a good clean place, not trashy like some places I've seen. Then again, I'm relying on memory, I haven't gone to a strip bar in a few years now. But with two bacholer parties coming up for friends, I'm sure I'll get a crash course... The most memorable thing about the 1720 club is there was this drunk guy with a fat wad of one dollar bills watching one lady in particular, peeling off and throwing one bill at a time. When she threw her top over his shoulder, he let all the bills (looked like about 30 bucks) drop on her stage. But 2 minutes later he was shown to the door when he didn't want to give the top back. The best bar I've ever been to is "Mints" in Niagra Falls (Canadian side). They have men stripping downstairs, and women stripping upstairs, so you can go with your significant other and both have fun. If you are feeling secure in your sexuality, men can escort their ladies downstairs (men can not go downstairs alone, but women can go upstairs alone). I went with my (now ex) girlfriend, and was one of maybe 5 guys who spent most of the time admiring the ceiling and floor. Althought I did learn a move or two. :-) But at least she came upstairs with me later. Ob Moto: Hmmm, doesn't seem to be much about motorcycles at all. Nevermind. Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 07:24:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA07541; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:24:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA01624; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA19655; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA02713 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 04:23:09 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 04:23:09 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 04:25:20 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 7 TEXT >there's a Dunkin Donuts in Herndon... There's a very nice pastry shop in Middleburg (across the street from the Safeway) - home made pastries and stuff Michael (always looking for good places to eat) Jordan > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 07:59:08 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA07718; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:59:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA02203; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA19979; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:58:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id AC06A950530; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:58:46 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980312080004.00ec1c80@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:00:04 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: 3 bikes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" 16 deg. F when I left the house. It had dropped from 17 deg. F just an hour before. When I arrived at my parking spot this morning, there were two other bikes already there. As I walked away, I turned and looked back ... seeing 3 bikes parked there just did my heart a world of good. :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 08:11:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA07840; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:11:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02339; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA20154; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from charlie.mnsinc.com (charlie.mnsinc.com [206.239.52.83]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA15319; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:10:38 -0500 (EST) From: adl64@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: "Jordan, Michael" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:14:55 GMT Message-ID: <3508deef.44332906@relay.mnsinc.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 04:25:20 -0800, Michael Jordan wrote: >There's a very nice pastry shop in Middleburg (across the street from >the Safeway) - home made pastries and stuff Sounds *great*! Looks like we've got the breakfast problem solved... how about lunch? :) Anita '95 Nighthawk PS - From the Post, Sunday is predicted to be Partly Sunny and 50 degrees. Not as good as 70, but I'll take it! :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 09:19:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA08437; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:19:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03929; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:18:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21283; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:18:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA08428 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:18:41 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:18:41 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:20:52 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 22 TEXT >Sounds *great*! Looks like we've got the breakfast problem solved... >how about lunch? :) Lessee, now - Lunch... There's a nice diner in Harper's Ferry (been there with CAMS) and there's always the General Store/BBQ place in Aldie on Route 50 (just west of US15) For those of you who have ridden past and wondered if it tasted as good as it smelled, it doesn't - it's better... Great homemade pies, too :-') If we're heading back on 7, the Horseshoe Curve restaurant is good - it's on a bypassed section of the original Route 7 in Clarke County - I understand that it used to be a biker hangout Michael J. CAMS Motto: Eat to Ride, Ride to Eat > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 09:41:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA08721; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04182; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21752; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id IAA15584; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:39:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA15096; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:39:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980312143935.QNIB27632@[166.41.242.141]>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:39:35 -0600 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:38 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) CC: gnissley@XXXXXX (Gil M. Nissley" ) Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980312143935.QNIB27632@[166.41.242.141]> > On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: > > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > I'd have to agree. > > Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two > females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be > interested in. > (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this place) I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and remember when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front door at lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there was a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk right out..Ha! In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for the $$$. Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some nude sweety shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for the show only. Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple times. Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty well (Steve and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there annual bike show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 09:43:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA08753; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:43:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04218; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:43:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21825; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA12492; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:43:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA20032; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:43:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980312144304.UJCC27160@XXXXXX>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:43:04 -0600 Message-ID: <3507F47A.9CC2CAFF@mci.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:43:06 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Norloff CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 3 bikes References: <3.0.1.32.19980312080004.00ec1c80@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Norloff wrote: > > 16 deg. F when I left the house. It had dropped from 17 deg. F just an > hour before. > > When I arrived at my parking spot this morning, there were two other bikes > already there. > > As I walked away, I turned and looked back ... seeing 3 bikes parked there > just did my heart a world of good. > > :-) > Chris Norloff Ever consider that you might be a positive influence in that? I've gotten a few people seriously interested in riding, and one guy at work who never considered riding his Yammie to work now does it on warm days. It's a start! Dale (the Horkster) PS: Mine was the only bike I saw in my 24 mile commute. I admit, it was a tad bit nippy this morning. :-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 09:48:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA08800; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04416; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:48:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21923; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (port22.annex3.radix.net [209.48.226.150]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA20862 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:48:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35081F41.55CB@radix.net> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:45:37 -0800 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Tracing charging problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> Kirk, sounds to me like a carb problem. Honda often uses butterfly choke systems instead of fuel enrichener systems for cold starts. Since the problem is appears temperature related, I would observe the choke cable operation at the carburetor to see if you are getting full range of motion. If not, you should be able to adjust the cable free-play to get more choke action. If your carbs have accelerator pumps, twist the throttle fully open twice before punching the starter button; that will squirt some fuel into the intake and should help. I forget which Hawk model you have, so can offer no additional advice. Good luck Richard Wood From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 10:03:31 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09013; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05221; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:03:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22255; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1HGZa04959 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:02:29 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:02:29 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 3 bikes Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/12/98 8:03:21 AM, cnorloff@XXXXXX wrote: oh I desperately WANT to be on mine but it won't start and I haven't had a chance to jump it, charge it, or buy it a tender yet..................... ARGH Marcy who is jealous of those with functioning vehicles................. <<16 deg. F when I left the house. It had dropped from 17 deg. F just an hour before. When I arrived at my parking spot this morning, there were two other bikes already there. As I walked away, I turned and looked back ... seeing 3 bikes parked there just did my heart a world of good>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 10:03:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09022; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:03:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05228; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22263; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4D9D.4B2A4EB0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:57:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Todd Peer'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'gnissley@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:57:39 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club and Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at Archibald's so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race car!! 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite thumbs up from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and the drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have the waitrons walking around serving. -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> >> > I'd have to agree. >> >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be >> interested in. >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this place) > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and remember >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front door at >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there was >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk right >out..Ha! > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for the $$$. >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some nude sweety >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for the show >only. > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple times. > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty well (Steve > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there annual bike > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > >Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 10:18:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09236; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:18:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05472; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22675; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA21236; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:17:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:17:05 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6723@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Tom Zell'" , "'Todd Peer'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'gnissley@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:17:22 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District Weekly p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime soon. Join us there Saturday night!! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > long) > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club and > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at Archibald's > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race car!! > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite thumbs up > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and the > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have the > waitrons walking around serving. > > -Tom > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX > wrote: > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > >> > I'd have to agree. > >> > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be > >> interested in. > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this > place) > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and remember > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front door at > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there was > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk right > >out..Ha! > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for the $$$. > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some nude > sweety > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for the > show > >only. > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple times. > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty well > (Steve > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there annual bike > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > > > >Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 10:20:48 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09263; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:20:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05511; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22725; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:20:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4D9F.A91CFCF0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:14:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Todd Peer'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'gnissley@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:14:35 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That would really suck! I have a bachelor party coming up soon! Looks like they're out of the running! Damn.... -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 10:17 AM >To: Tom Zell; 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > >Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District Weekly >p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime soon. > >Join us there Saturday night!! > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM >> To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' >> Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very >> long) >> >> Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club and >> Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at Archibald's >> so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race car!! >> >> 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite thumbs up >> from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and the >> drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have the >> waitrons walking around serving. >> >> -Tom >> >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM >> >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX >> >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) >> > >> > >> >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: >> >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX >> wrote: >> >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> >> >> > I'd have to agree. >> >> >> >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two >> >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be >> >> interested in. >> >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this >> place) >> > >> >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and remember >> >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front door at >> >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there was >> >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk right >> >out..Ha! >> > >> >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for the $$$. >> >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some nude >> sweety >> >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for the >> show >> >only. >> > >> >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple times. >> > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty well >> (Steve >> > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there annual bike >> > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. >> > >> >Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 10:45:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09624; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05784; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23343; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:44:53 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA09937 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:45:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199803121545.AA09937@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:45:22 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:45:22 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:45:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:43:44 -0500 Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6723@badge.tuckerflyer.com> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long)"; charset=us-ascii Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? -aki > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District Weekly > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime soon. > > Join us there Saturday night!! > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > > long) > > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club and > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at Archibald's > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race car!! > > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite thumbs up > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and the > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have the > > waitrons walking around serving. > > > > -Tom > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX > > wrote: > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > >> > I'd have to agree. > > >> > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be > > >> interested in. > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this > > place) > > > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and remember > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front door at > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there was > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk right > > >out..Ha! > > > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for the $$$. > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some nude > > sweety > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for the > > show > > >only. > > > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple times. > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty well > > (Steve > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there annual bike > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > > > > > >Todd > > X-Priority: 3 > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 11:00:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA09913; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06885; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:59:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23922; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:59:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18785; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:59:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23404; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:59:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803121559.KAA23404@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) To: aki.damme@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:59:46 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: <199803121545.AA09937@egate2.citicorp.com> from "aki.damme@citicorp.com" at Mar 12, 98 10:43:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just skimmed the article, but it looks like the area that the 1720 club is in is slated for redevelopment, but the 1720 club is not allowed to relocated (because of a new DC law which only seems to affect the 1720 Club itself). See page J03, or http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/12/031l-031298-idx.html for the full article. It's mostly the religious community that is applying the heat. Heavens forbid that the masses actually have some fun in life. Are you serious about a group going this Sat night? I wouldn't mind going with a DC-Cycles group. Is there motorcycle parking availble? :-) Louis > Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? > > -aki > > > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District Weekly > > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime soon. > > > > Join us there Saturday night!! > > > > - Jeannette > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > > > long) > > > > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club and > > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at > Archibald's > > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race car!! > > > > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite thumbs > up > > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and the > > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have the > > > waitrons walking around serving. > > > > > > -Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX > > > wrote: > > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > > >> > I'd have to agree. > > > >> > > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two > > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be > > > >> interested in. > > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this > > > place) > > > > > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and > remember > > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front door at > > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there was > > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk right > > > >out..Ha! > > > > > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for the > $$$. > > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some nude > > > sweety > > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for the > > > show > > > >only. > > > > > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple times. > > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty well > > > (Steve > > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there annual > bike > > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > > > > > > > >Todd > > > > X-Priority: 3 > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 11:03:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA09992; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:03:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07254; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:03:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24042; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA03720; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:02:17 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E672D@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'aki.damme@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:02:33 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Supposedly they are on property that is slated for redevelopment, so the owner was trying to get permission to move the club. Of course, all the religious-righters, etc. are saying NO WAY!! NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD!! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: aki.damme@XXXXXX [SMTP:aki.damme@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 10:44 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > long) > > > Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? > > -aki > > > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District > Weekly > > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime > soon. > > > > Join us there Saturday night!! > > > > - Jeannette > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > > > long) > > > > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club and > > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at > Archibald's > > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race > car!! > > > > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite > thumbs > up > > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and the > > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have the > > > waitrons walking around serving. > > > > > > -Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, > jlobrien@XXXXXX > > > wrote: > > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > > >> > I'd have to agree. > > > >> > > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by > two > > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would > be > > > >> interested in. > > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this > > > place) > > > > > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and > remember > > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front door > at > > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there > was > > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk > right > > > >out..Ha! > > > > > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for the > $$$. > > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some nude > > > sweety > > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for the > > > show > > > >only. > > > > > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple times. > > > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty well > > > (Steve > > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there annual > bike > > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > > > > > > > >Todd > > > > X-Priority: 3 > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 11:22:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10348; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08171; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:22:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24476; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA09147; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:22:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:21:26 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6731@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Louis F. Caplan'" , aki.damme@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:21:42 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Marcy, me, Tom & Marcy's guy with some of our friends are going. You're welcome to join... : ) - jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:00 AM > To: aki.damme@XXXXXX > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > long) > > > I just skimmed the article, but it looks like the area that the 1720 > club > is in is slated for redevelopment, but the 1720 club is not allowed > to relocated (because of a new DC law which only seems to affect the > 1720 > Club itself). See page J03, or > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/12/031l-031298-idx > .html > for the full article. It's mostly the religious community that is > applying the heat. Heavens forbid that the masses actually have some > fun in life. > > Are you serious about a group going this Sat night? I wouldn't mind > going with a DC-Cycles group. Is there motorcycle parking availble? > :-) > > Louis > > > Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? > > > > -aki > > > > > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District > Weekly > > > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime > soon. > > > > > > Join us there Saturday night!! > > > > > > - Jeannette > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > > > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > > > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > very > > > > long) > > > > > > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club > and > > > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at > > Archibald's > > > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race > car!! > > > > > > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite > thumbs > > up > > > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and > the > > > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have > the > > > > waitrons walking around serving. > > > > > > > > -Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > > > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > very long) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, > jlobrien@XXXXXX > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > > > >> > I'd have to agree. > > > > >> > > > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by > two > > > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would > be > > > > >> interested in. > > > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know > this > > > > place) > > > > > > > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and > > remember > > > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front > door at > > > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there > was > > > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk > right > > > > >out..Ha! > > > > > > > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for > the > > $$$. > > > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some > nude > > > > sweety > > > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for > the > > > > show > > > > >only. > > > > > > > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple > times. > > > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty > well > > > > (Steve > > > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there > annual > > bike > > > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > > > > > > > > > >Todd > > > > > > X-Priority: 3 > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 11:46:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10847; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:46:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA09541; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25371; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4DAB.A02EF420@XXXXXX>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:40:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Louis F. Caplan'" , "'aki.damme@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:40:14 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please come!! A good time will be had by all!!! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:22 AM >To: 'Louis F. Caplan'; aki.damme@XXXXXX >Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > >Marcy, me, Tom & Marcy's guy with some of our friends are going. You're >welcome to join... : ) > >- jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:00 AM >> To: aki.damme@XXXXXX >> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very >> long) >> >> >> I just skimmed the article, but it looks like the area that the 1720 >> club >> is in is slated for redevelopment, but the 1720 club is not allowed >> to relocated (because of a new DC law which only seems to affect the >> 1720 >> Club itself). See page J03, or >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/12/031l-031298-idx >> .html >> for the full article. It's mostly the religious community that is >> applying the heat. Heavens forbid that the masses actually have some >> fun in life. >> >> Are you serious about a group going this Sat night? I wouldn't mind >> going with a DC-Cycles group. Is there motorcycle parking availble? >> :-) >> >> Louis >> >> > Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? >> > >> > -aki >> > >> > > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District >> Weekly >> > > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime >> soon. >> > > >> > > Join us there Saturday night!! >> > > >> > > - Jeannette >> > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM >> > > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> > > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' >> > > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, >> very >> > > > long) >> > > > >> > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club >> and >> > > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at >> > Archibald's >> > > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race >> car!! >> > > > >> > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite >> thumbs >> > up >> > > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and >> the >> > > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have >> the >> > > > waitrons walking around serving. >> > > > >> > > > -Tom >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >-----Original Message----- >> > > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] >> > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM >> > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> > > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX >> > > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, >> very long) >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: >> > > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, >> jlobrien@XXXXXX >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> >> > > > >> > I'd have to agree. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by >> two >> > > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would >> be >> > > > >> interested in. >> > > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know >> this >> > > > place) >> > > > > >> > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and >> > remember >> > > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front >> door at >> > > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there >> was >> > > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk >> right >> > > > >out..Ha! >> > > > > >> > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for >> the >> > $$$. >> > > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some >> nude >> > > > sweety >> > > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for >> the >> > > > show >> > > > >only. >> > > > > >> > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple >> times. >> > > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty >> well >> > > > (Steve >> > > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there >> annual >> > bike >> > > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. >> > > > > >> > > > >Todd >> > > >> > > X-Priority: 3 >> > > >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 12:15:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA11432; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA11278; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:14:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26375; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:14:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18121; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:14:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10496; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:14:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803121714.MAA10496@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) To: zell@XXXXXX (Tom Zell ) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:14:30 -0500 (EST) Cc: jlobrien@XXXXXX (Jeanette O'Brien), dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: from "Tom Zell " at Mar 12, 98 11:40:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sure, I'll go. What time are you all meeting there? And what street is it on? I know the address is 1720 (duh) but it's been years since I was there. I may drag along a friend who has been moaning since his fiancee has been temporarily working in Norfolk for 3 weeks now. (She'll be back next week, he's practially counting down the hours) See ya there (again, what time? I'll get weird looks if I'm there for three hours all by myself, plus I'll be flat broke! :-) ) Louis > Please come!! A good time will be had by all!!! > > -Tom > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:22 AM > >To: 'Louis F. Caplan'; aki.damme@XXXXXX > >Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > > >Marcy, me, Tom & Marcy's guy with some of our friends are going. You're > >welcome to join... : ) > > > >- jeannette > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:00 AM > >> To: aki.damme@XXXXXX > >> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >> Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > >> long) > >> > >> > >> I just skimmed the article, but it looks like the area that the 1720 > >> club > >> is in is slated for redevelopment, but the 1720 club is not allowed > >> to relocated (because of a new DC law which only seems to affect the > >> 1720 > >> Club itself). See page J03, or > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/12/031l-031298-idx > >> .html > >> for the full article. It's mostly the religious community that is > >> applying the heat. Heavens forbid that the masses actually have some > >> fun in life. > >> > >> Are you serious about a group going this Sat night? I wouldn't mind > >> going with a DC-Cycles group. Is there motorcycle parking availble? > >> :-) > >> > >> Louis > >> > >> > Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? > >> > > >> > -aki > >> > > >> > > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District > >> Weekly > >> > > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime > >> soon. > >> > > > >> > > Join us there Saturday night!! > >> > > > >> > > - Jeannette > >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > >> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > >> > > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > >> > > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > >> > > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > >> very > >> > > > long) > >> > > > > >> > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club > >> and > >> > > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at > >> > Archibald's > >> > > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race > >> car!! > >> > > > > >> > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite > >> thumbs > >> > up > >> > > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and > >> the > >> > > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have > >> the > >> > > > waitrons walking around serving. > >> > > > > >> > > > -Tom > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >-----Original Message----- > >> > > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > >> > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > >> > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >> > > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > >> > > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > >> very long) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > >> > > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, > >> jlobrien@XXXXXX > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > >> > > > >> > I'd have to agree. > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by > >> two > >> > > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would > >> be > >> > > > >> interested in. > >> > > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know > >> this > >> > > > place) > >> > > > > > >> > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and > >> > remember > >> > > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front > >> door at > >> > > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there > >> was > >> > > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk > >> right > >> > > > >out..Ha! > >> > > > > > >> > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for > >> the > >> > $$$. > >> > > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some > >> nude > >> > > > sweety > >> > > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for > >> the > >> > > > show > >> > > > >only. > >> > > > > > >> > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple > >> times. > >> > > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty > >> well > >> > > > (Steve > >> > > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there > >> annual > >> > bike > >> > > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > >> > > > > > >> > > > >Todd > >> > > > >> > > X-Priority: 3 > >> > > > >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 12:17:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA11479; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA11389; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26452; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id MAA27376; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:16:15 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6736@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Louis F. Caplan'" , zell@XXXXXX Cc: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:16:30 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think we'll be there after 11PM. Let's just call it our engagement party ! ; ) I think it's between H & I on 17th or something...right next to a bank. Moto related: Yes, plenty of parking for bikes, much more so than cars... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 12:15 PM > To: zell@XXXXXX > Cc: jlobrien@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > long) > > > Sure, I'll go. What time are you all meeting there? > > And what street is it on? I know the address is 1720 (duh) but > it's been years since I was there. I may drag along a friend who > has been moaning since his fiancee has been temporarily working in > Norfolk for 3 weeks now. (She'll be back next week, he's practially > counting down the hours) > > See ya there (again, what time? I'll get weird looks if I'm there > for three hours all by myself, plus I'll be flat broke! :-) ) > > Louis > > > > Please come!! A good time will be had by all!!! > > > > -Tom > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:22 AM > > >To: 'Louis F. Caplan'; aki.damme@XXXXXX > > >Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > >Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > long) > > > > > >Marcy, me, Tom & Marcy's guy with some of our friends are going. > You're > > >welcome to join... : ) > > > > > >- jeannette > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:00 AM > > >> To: aki.damme@XXXXXX > > >> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > >> Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > > >> long) > > >> > > >> > > >> I just skimmed the article, but it looks like the area that the > 1720 > > >> club > > >> is in is slated for redevelopment, but the 1720 club is not > allowed > > >> to relocated (because of a new DC law which only seems to affect > the > > >> 1720 > > >> Club itself). See page J03, or > > >> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/12/031l-031298-idx > > > >> .html > > >> for the full article. It's mostly the religious community that > is > > >> applying the heat. Heavens forbid that the masses actually have > some > > >> fun in life. > > >> > > >> Are you serious about a group going this Sat night? I wouldn't > mind > > >> going with a DC-Cycles group. Is there motorcycle parking > availble? > > >> :-) > > >> > > >> Louis > > >> > > >> > Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? > > >> > > > >> > -aki > > >> > > > >> > > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the > District > > >> Weekly > > >> > > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close > sometime > > >> soon. > > >> > > > > >> > > Join us there Saturday night!! > > >> > > > > >> > > - Jeannette > > >> > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > > >> > > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > > >> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > > >> > > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > >> > > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > > >> > > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > > > >> very > > >> > > > long) > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 > Club > > >> and > > >> > > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at > > > >> > Archibald's > > >> > > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the > race > > >> car!! > > >> > > > > > >> > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a > definite > > >> thumbs > > >> > up > > >> > > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) > and > > >> the > > >> > > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they > have > > >> the > > >> > > > waitrons walking around serving. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > -Tom > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >> > > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > > >> > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > > >> > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > >> > > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > > >> > > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > > >> very long) > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > >> > > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, > > >> jlobrien@XXXXXX > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > >> > > > >> > I'd have to agree. > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been > suggested by > > >> two > > >> > > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk > would > > >> be > > >> > > > >> interested in. > > >> > > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' > know > > >> this > > >> > > > place) > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, > and > > >> > remember > > >> > > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the > front > > >> door at > > >> > > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that > there > > >> was > > >> > > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk > in...walk > > >> right > > >> > > > >out..Ha! > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch > for > > >> the > > >> > $$$. > > >> > > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with > some > > >> nude > > >> > > > sweety > > >> > > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go > for > > >> the > > >> > > > show > > >> > > > >only. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple > > > >> times. > > >> > > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers > pretty > > >> well > > >> > > > (Steve > > >> > > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there > > >> annual > > >> > bike > > >> > > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >Todd > > >> > > > > >> > > X-Priority: 3 > > >> > > > > >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 12:46:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12147; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA13670; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:46:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from the.martinagency.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27272; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:46:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by the.martinagency.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA18142 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:38:37 -0800 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:45:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:46:26 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Crow Bar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Hate to interrupt this whole nudie-bar thing but I wonder if someone could float me a clue about the Crow Bar. Cool or lame? If cool, is there a hotel around with secure bike parking? Thanks for the help; don't know DC too well. Joe 85 Ninja 900 Richmond VA From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 12:53:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12450; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA14070; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27720; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:53:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id MAA23282 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA31003 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:52:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980312175240.OERC4928@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:52:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:42 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980312175240.OERC4928@[166.41.242.141]> Save me a place. I'm tooling up to the MARRC intro. and may stop by to say hello to everyone afterward. >I think we'll be there after 11PM. >Let's just call it our engagement party ! ; ) >I think it's between H & I on 17th or something...right next to a bank. > >Moto related: Yes, plenty of parking for bikes, much more so than >cars... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 13:02:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12675; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:02:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA14802; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:01:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA28083; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id NAA11470; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:00:22 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E673F@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'JOE NAGY'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Crow Bar Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:00:38 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Crow Bar can be pretty fun. Thursday night is sport bike night, I know that, & they play videos of racers & such & mostly only sport-bikes are parked out front. There are other nights as well, but I'm not sure what they are. They have a dance floor upstairs & it can get a little too college-y for me on the weekends, but for the most part it's pretty fun and the people are friendly. I don't know about hotel parking for bikes, I always park mine right in front. - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: JOE NAGY [SMTP:NAGYJ@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 12:46 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Crow Bar > > Hate to interrupt this whole nudie-bar thing but I wonder if someone > could float me a clue about the Crow Bar. Cool or lame? If cool, is > there a hotel around with secure bike parking? Thanks for the help; > don't know DC too well. > Joe > 85 Ninja 900 > Richmond VA From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 13:11:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12840; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:11:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA15306; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:11:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA28414; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:11:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1GKGa04959 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:10:59 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23 Message-ID: <4042ca7c.35082535@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:10:59 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 There's a Dunkin' Doughnuts in Leesburg. It's in the shopping center across from K-Mart. Maybe a little before. -Sean Jordan (A.k.a. Mike's Kid) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 13:17:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12952; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA15431; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA28658; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1XJa001472 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:16:07 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:16:07 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 D.C. clubs are all 21, aren't they? I guess nobody goes out to the places on Rt. 9, in WVa? Probably a slightly better ride than any way into D.C.... -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 16:51:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA17474; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:51:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA20042; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:49:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07218; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:49:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.76.78]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA5992; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:49:01 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "dc-cycles" Cc: "eileen swanson" , "jeff swanson" , "luis longoria" Subject: Re: 3 bikes Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:45:21 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4e00$28527120$bf4b440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Hey, y'all-- It was 24 deg at 9:28 a.m., according to the AB&A Sign Co time and temp sign on the Beltway. The only other bike I saw between potomac and College Park was a MD State Trooper with his lap blanket heading to the barracks. No bikes parked near me on campus. I wore full leather to keep warm; I usually just do jacket and jeans to school. Didn't notice any funny looks from my fellow students. I did carry my helmet so I might avoid seamy propositions from S&M enthusiasts.... The leather and Patagonia expedition weight long underwear did a fabulous job keeping me warm. Only my fingers were cold. And then I wasn't overheated in class either. Did get quite hot in a pizza place at lunch, but then I sat outside to read my paper and cool off. Only pucker-inducing occasion was a sheet of thick ice about 15 feet long across my whole lane on Riggs near Adelphi. It was just around a bend, and there was a car right on my ass. Good thing the ice wasn't in the bend. It looks like a problem area, so I'll take a different route on icy days. Later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 17:50:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA18337; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:50:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA23282; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:49:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA.COM by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA09045; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:39:59 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:47:18 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 3 bikes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Re: 3 bikes It was cold this morning. The seat felt like a brick. I wanted to check this out with you guys: Have any of you ever received a ticket for "failure to park parallel?" I got a $20 parking ticket for this offense in D.C., while parked across the street from the Crow Bar in a legal spot with plenty of space between me and the cars. I have never seen a bike parked parallel to the curb. Sean Sullivan 95 F3 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 18:43:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19311; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:43:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA24488; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA10680; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02527; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:42:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from leon-at-home (cust012.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.12]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA22547 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:49:09 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980312184945.006981d4@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:49:45 +0000 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: 3 bikes I agree, it was COLD! Today's stats: Departed Starke, FL at 4:50 AM temp 35 Arrived Dale City, VA at 4:00PM temp - about the same. There's a little snow on the ground in South Carolina and some more in North Carolina (two separate areas) 749 miles in 11:50, average speed 63.3 mph. Avg temp 30 something. I saw two bikes. One going the other way-couldn't tell what it was, and a Harley in a truck. I'm back. It won't be cold tomorrow, It's only 30 miles to work. Leon >Chris Norloff wrote: >> >> 16 deg. F when I left the house. It had dropped from 17 deg. F just an >> hour before. >> >> When I arrived at my parking spot this morning, there were two other bikes >> already there. >> >> As I walked away, I turned and looked back ... seeing 3 bikes parked there >> just did my heart a world of good. Then Dale (the Horkster) responded: > >PS: Mine was the only bike I saw in my 24 mile commute. >I admit, it was a tad bit nippy this morning. :-) > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 18:51:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19384; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:51:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA24959; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:51:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA10870; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:51:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com (oak.eainet.com [206.136.246.2]) by oak.eainet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA18990 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:51:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:51:16 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hartzler Reply-To: Peter Hartzler To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hmm... Another reason to avoid that hell pit they call DC (Sorry to all you stalwart District Denizens!)... I must say they have some creative ticketing options though. How festive!! I think parking parallel is not always even possible, i.e. when the street has a high crown. I'd be concerned about the bike falling over. I try to park so the bike is least likely to fall or get hit, period. That usually means diagonally, pointed out of the space, with my rear tire touching the curb. It also apparently means not in DC, eh? I'll have to check and see if VA has a similar (idiotic) code on the books. Pete. On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Sean Sullivan wrote: > Re: 3 bikes > > It was cold this morning. The seat felt like a brick. > I wanted to check this out with you guys: Have any of you ever received a ticket for > "failure to park parallel?" I got a $20 parking ticket for this offense in D.C., while parked > across the street from the Crow Bar in a legal spot with plenty of space between me and > the cars. I have never seen a bike parked parallel to the curb. > Sean Sullivan > 95 F3 > --- Peter Hartzler Systems Analysis Ellsworth Associates, Inc. ph@XXXXXX (703) 821-3090 x 252 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 18:59:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19445; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:59:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA25155; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:59:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11007; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02650; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-217-184.pitb.grid.net [207.205.217.184]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA16810; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:59:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980312190114.006c295c@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:01:14 -0500 To: Leon Begeman From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: 3 bikes Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980312184945.006981d4@illuminet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:49 PM 3/12/98 +0000, Leon Begeman wrote: >749 miles in 11:50, average speed 63.3 mph. Avg temp 30 something. >I saw two bikes. One going the other way-couldn't tell what it was, and a >Harley in a truck. Leon, I had the same experience on my trip. Despite riding some of the finest motorcycle roads in the country, I only passed two or three other bikes, and that was when the weather was nice. Granted these were weekdays, but, still, I would have expected to see more than a handful. By the way, did you use GPS? I loved my Garmin GPS III with the built in maps. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 20:55:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA20851; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA26911; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:54:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemini.smart.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA13266; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from richard (max2p188.smart.net [206.97.127.188]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA24614 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:54:35 -0500 Message-ID: <35089158.2D37@smart.net> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:52:24 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Gimer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-Cycles Subject: HJC 90 and other system acoustics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To any of you who use the HJC 90 communicators, I'd like to know if anyone has used the audio input to listen to music while riding and what you think of the sound quality. I currently use earphones that fit into my ears whenever I listen to music, but am considering purchasing a communicator/intercom system with decent sound quality. Are JM Audio headsets better? Autocom? Thanks for the info. -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 21:22:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA21179; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA27396; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:22:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA13705; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA03328; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:22:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON ([207.152.142.55]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA12043; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:22:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "Thomas H. Gimer" Cc: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: HJC 90 and other system acoustics Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:22:05 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4e26$d0a46380$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 sound quality is okay however it mutes out whever someone talks or a signal is imcoming on the chatterbox, which can get quite annoying if you are riding alone and just trying to listen the radio/tape/cd... -----Original Message----- From: Thomas H. Gimer To: DC-Cycles Date: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:00 PM Subject: HJC 90 and other system acoustics >To any of you who use the HJC 90 communicators, I'd like to know if >anyone has used the audio input to listen to music while riding and what >you think of the sound quality. > >I currently use earphones that fit into my ears whenever I listen to >music, but am considering purchasing a communicator/intercom system with >decent sound quality. > >Are JM Audio headsets better? Autocom? > >Thanks for the info. > >-- >Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 23:09:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA22487; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:09:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA28467; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15994; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA04446; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:05:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:59:53 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6736@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cool! A dc-cycles event I can go to(bike's not running and I wouldn't ride it anywhere I was going to drink anyway).And I'm actually off both jobs.I'm in for Sat@11. Anyone else wanna drop in early?We can see who can correctly guess the name/size of all the dancer's bras. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > I think we'll be there after 11PM. > Let's just call it our engagement party ! ; ) > I think it's between H & I on 17th or something...right next to a bank. > > Moto related: Yes, plenty of parking for bikes, much more so than > cars... > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 12:15 PM > > To: zell@XXXXXX > > Cc: jlobrien@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > > long) > > > > > > Sure, I'll go. What time are you all meeting there? > > > > And what street is it on? I know the address is 1720 (duh) but > > it's been years since I was there. I may drag along a friend who > > has been moaning since his fiancee has been temporarily working in > > Norfolk for 3 weeks now. (She'll be back next week, he's practially > > counting down the hours) > > > > See ya there (again, what time? I'll get weird looks if I'm there > > for three hours all by myself, plus I'll be flat broke! :-) ) > > > > Louis > > > > > > > Please come!! A good time will be had by all!!! > > > > > > -Tom > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:22 AM > > > >To: 'Louis F. Caplan'; aki.damme@XXXXXX > > > >Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > >Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > > long) > > > > > > > >Marcy, me, Tom & Marcy's guy with some of our friends are going. > > You're > > > >welcome to join... : ) > > > > > > > >- jeannette > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] > > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:00 AM > > > >> To: aki.damme@XXXXXX > > > >> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > >> Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > > > >> long) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I just skimmed the article, but it looks like the area that the > > 1720 > > > >> club > > > >> is in is slated for redevelopment, but the 1720 club is not > > allowed > > > >> to relocated (because of a new DC law which only seems to affect > > the > > > >> 1720 > > > >> Club itself). See page J03, or > > > >> > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/12/031l-031298-idx > > > > > >> .html > > > >> for the full article. It's mostly the religious community that > > is > > > >> applying the heat. Heavens forbid that the masses actually have > > some > > > >> fun in life. > > > >> > > > >> Are you serious about a group going this Sat night? I wouldn't > > mind > > > >> going with a DC-Cycles group. Is there motorcycle parking > > availble? > > > >> :-) > > > >> > > > >> Louis > > > >> > > > >> > Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? > > > >> > > > > >> > -aki > > > >> > > > > >> > > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the > > District > > > >> Weekly > > > >> > > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close > > sometime > > > >> soon. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Join us there Saturday night!! > > > >> > > > > > >> > > - Jeannette > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > > > >> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > > > >> > > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > > >> > > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > > > >> > > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > > > > > >> very > > > >> > > > long) > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 > > Club > > > >> and > > > >> > > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at > > > > > >> > Archibald's > > > >> > > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the > > race > > > >> car!! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a > > definite > > > >> thumbs > > > >> > up > > > >> > > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) > > and > > > >> the > > > >> > > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they > > have > > > >> the > > > >> > > > waitrons walking around serving. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > -Tom > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >> > > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > > > >> > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > > > >> > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > >> > > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > > > >> > > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > > > >> very long) > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, > > > >> jlobrien@XXXXXX > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > > >> > > > >> > I'd have to agree. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been > > suggested by > > > >> two > > > >> > > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk > > would > > > >> be > > > >> > > > >> interested in. > > > >> > > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' > > know > > > >> this > > > >> > > > place) > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, > > and > > > >> > remember > > > >> > > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the > > front > > > >> door at > > > >> > > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that > > there > > > >> was > > > >> > > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk > > in...walk > > > >> right > > > >> > > > >out..Ha! > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch > > for > > > >> the > > > >> > $$$. > > > >> > > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with > > some > > > >> nude > > > >> > > > sweety > > > >> > > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go > > for > > > >> the > > > >> > > > show > > > >> > > > >only. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple > > > > > >> times. > > > >> > > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers > > pretty > > > >> well > > > >> > > > (Steve > > > >> > > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there > > > >> annual > > > >> > bike > > > >> > > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >Todd > > > >> > > > > > >> > > X-Priority: 3 > > > >> > > > > > >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 00:02:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22970; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:02:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA29469; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16932; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:02:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA08754 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:32:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:32:52 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: RE: 1720 Club. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For shame on you all, I thought this was a nice, clean wholesome list! Me and my virgin eyes/ears are just going to have to not be there I guess.. (Not a lot of choice in the matter, working that night) Have fun.. > > Cool! A dc-cycles event I can go to(bike's not running and I > wouldn't ride it anywhere I was going to drink anyway).And I'm > actually off both jobs.I'm in for Sat@11. > > Anyone else wanna drop in early?We can see who can correctly > guess the name/size of all the dancer's bras. ;-) > > Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 00:02:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22993; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:02:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA29487; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:02:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16940; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id AAA01764; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:05:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:05:57 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: "Thomas H. Gimer" cc: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: HJC 90 and other system acoustics In-Reply-To: <35089158.2D37@smart.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use a collet 49 Mhz communicator with external audio source. It seems to work pretty well. Mine also has a passenger headset and a single channel to communicate w/another bike. The microphone is on the end of a flexible rubber tube. It takes a little patience to bend the tube just right so that it is out of the way, but close enough to be effective. It seems to work pretty well. One drawback is that the audio source is monaural coming out of the communicator, so you lose the "strereo" effect. On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Thomas H. Gimer wrote: > To any of you who use the HJC 90 communicators, I'd like to know if > anyone has used the audio input to listen to music while riding and what > you think of the sound quality. > > I currently use earphones that fit into my ears whenever I listen to > music, but am considering purchasing a communicator/intercom system with > decent sound quality. > > Are JM Audio headsets better? Autocom? > > Thanks for the info. > > -- > Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX > -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 00:11:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA23418; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:11:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA29971; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:10:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA17073; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id AAA04304; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:18:17 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:18:17 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: "Cycles, DC -- DC Cycles" Subject: AB&A Heating/Cooling Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm glad that I'm not the only one that REALLY appreciates that sign on the north side of the beltway! Although I have often wondered about its accuracy. -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 08:12:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA26791; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:12:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03519; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23155; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA12730 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:10:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:10:58 -0500 (EST) From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 1729 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well I mentioned this to my husband, and he seems to think going to a strip club with a bunch of bikers is a great idea, so I might just show up. On the other hand I need to pick up my bike (with new tires and a spring tune up done) from herndon Cycle Sport this afternoon, and may just freeze on the way home! Well maybe not. Julie holm --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Julie Holm (ENTP)| DoD #1604 AMA#397939 UKMC# 0001 VOC# 4672 holm@XXXXXX | 1985 Virago 700 "Maureen" | I'm home at http://www.ziplink.net/~holm NGG Webmistress | Remember the PINK PAGES are always changing (Just and Armourer | like a Nasty Girlie's mind!) | NGG home page http://www.ziplink.net/~holm/ngg/ngg.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 08:24:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA26911; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:24:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03682; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23272; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:23:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA06153; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A32D5E01F4; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:22:56 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313081957.00f09d30@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:19:57 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: 3 bikes In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980312184945.006981d4@illuminet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:49 PM 3/12/98 +0000, Leon Begeman wrote: >I agree, it was COLD! >Today's stats: Departed Starke, FL at 4:50 AM temp 35 >Arrived Dale City, VA at 4:00PM temp - about the same. >There's a little snow on the ground in South Carolina and some more in North >Carolina (two separate areas) > >749 miles in 11:50, average speed 63.3 mph. Avg temp 30 something. Wow! That's a fur piece, and a quick pace for those temperatures! One of the first things I figured out was how much speed affects my warmth in winter riding. Guess you like that new insulate Aerostich, eh? >I'm back. It won't be cold tomorrow, It's only 30 miles to work. It was warmer at my place ... up to 18. Welcome back. :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 08:24:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA26912; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:24:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03680; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:23:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23269; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:23:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A3305E01F4; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:22:56 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313081711.00edc6d0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:17:11 -0500 To: Sean Sullivan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: 3 bikes In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:47 PM 3/12/98 -0500, Sean Sullivan wrote: > I wanted to check this out with you guys: Have any of you ever received a ticket for >"failure to park parallel?" I got a $20 parking ticket for this offense in D.C., while parked >across the street from the Crow Bar in a legal spot with plenty of space between me and >the cars. I have never seen a bike parked parallel to the curb. That's pretty lousy. I'm not sure exactly what the law says, but the info sheet I got from the DC parking department says: "Motorcycles may park in metered zones designed for automobiles providing the parking meter is paid. When parked in spaces designed for automobiles, motorcycles should park parallel to the curb." Note that it says "should", not "must". Also: "When parked in spaces designed for their exclusive use, motorcycles must park in designated areas with rear wheel to the curb" You're now in the classic DC parking ticket conundrum - do you just pay the $20, or do you fight it. They deliberately keep the cost low so you won't fight it. It's simpler and cheaper just to pay it. Fighting it would be more fun and more hassle, and it might get the parking patrol to lighten up. In fact, you might be able to solicit help from the Crow Bar or their patrons - all of whom have a vested interest in bikers not getting parking tickets like this! good luck Senor Quixote, Chris Norloff P.S. My info sheet came from Charles Whalen in the Bureau of Parking Services, at (202)541-6030, fax (202)541-6113. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 09:18:08 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27376; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:18:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04759; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24089; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:16:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA20606; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA08580; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:13:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980313141318.XONF27160@[166.41.242.141]>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:13:18 -0600 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:03 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Chris Norloff CC: Sean Sullivan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 3 bikes X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980313141318.XONF27160@[166.41.242.141]> Not too long ago I posted that Adjudication by mail was no longer an option for DC parking violations. Someone else (Chris?) corrected me by stating that they had done just that mere months before. If I were you Sean, I'd contact the owner of the Crow Bar, Steve Zarpas (crowbar@XXXXXX), and let him know what happened to see if he can help. Adjudicate by mail as well (if possible) explaining that parallel parking with your bike would result in damage to it (and would DC be willing to pay the cost). Hey, are you going to Taos with Linda and I? Let's get together sometime next week and discuss the plans. Todd I'm not sure exactly what the law says, but the info sheet I got from the DC parking department says: "Motorcycles may park in metered zones designed for automobiles providing the parking meter is paid. When parked in spaces designed for automobiles, motorcycles should park parallel to the curb." Note that it says "should", not "must". Also: "When parked in spaces designed for their exclusive use, motorcycles must park in designated areas with rear wheel to the curb" You're now in the classic DC parking ticket conundrum - do you just pay the $20, or do you fight it. They deliberately keep the cost low so you won't fight it. It's simpler and cheaper just to pay it. Fighting it would be more fun and more hassle, and it might get the parking patrol to lighten up. In fact, you might be able to solicit help from the Crow Bar or their patrons - all of whom have a vested interest in bikers not getting parking tickets like this! good luck Senor Quixote, Chris Norloff P.S. My info sheet came from Charles Whalen in the Bureau of Parking Services, at (202)541-6030, fax (202)541-6113. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 09:20:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27398; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04815; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:20:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24147; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:20:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA06011; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:19:17 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FF9E2@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Peter Hartzler'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:19:36 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I was similarly ticketed for an offense I didn't commit last Friday. I parked at a motorcycle meter, paid my fare & went to work. I came back out to my bike & noticed I had a ticket - FOR THE OTHER METER!! I was so angry! I'm sure DC figures I'll just pay the $15 instead of taking a full day off work to fight the mess that they call traffic adjudication - right!?? - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Hartzler [SMTP:ph@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 6:51 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] > > Hmm... > > Another reason to avoid that hell pit they call DC (Sorry to all you > stalwart District Denizens!)... I must say they have some creative > ticketing options though. How festive!! > > I think parking parallel is not always even possible, i.e. when the > street > has a high crown. I'd be concerned about the bike falling over. I > try to > park so the bike is least likely to fall or get hit, period. That > usually > means diagonally, pointed out of the space, with my rear tire touching > the > curb. It also apparently means not in DC, eh? > > I'll have to check and see if VA has a similar (idiotic) code on the > books. > > Pete. > > On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Sean Sullivan wrote: > > > Re: 3 bikes > > > > It was cold this morning. The seat felt like a brick. > > I wanted to check this out with you guys: Have any of you ever > received a ticket for > > "failure to park parallel?" I got a $20 parking ticket for this > offense in D.C., while parked > > across the street from the Crow Bar in a legal spot with plenty of > space between me and > > the cars. I have never seen a bike parked parallel to the curb. > > Sean Sullivan > > 95 F3 > > > > --- > Peter Hartzler > Systems Analysis > Ellsworth Associates, Inc. > ph@XXXXXX > (703) 821-3090 x 252 > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 09:41:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27715; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA05025; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24719; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id JAA17026; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma016992; Fri, 13 Mar 98 09:40:54 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 3 bikes Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:21 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain In all fairness to DC, this is typical of everywhere. The only time I bothered to fight a ticket in Boston was when it was totally ridiculous, and I was a student & my time was worth a lot less. I always park rear wheel to curb in the District and have never gotten a ticket, but maybe I'm just lucky. And riding in the District is great, you can work on your swerving skills thanks to the potholes. --John Whiteside (former DC resident) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 09:43:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27726; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA05064; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24783; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:43:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA12982; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:42:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:23 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FF9E5@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Ah, to Ride in to Work.... Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:42 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Anyone else ride in today? What a gorgeous morning! I feel like I've been detoxing 'cause I haven't ridden my baby 'ceptor in a whole week!! The traffic was rather light today, too, which was nice, so that only added to my enjoyment. It's funny how I come into work in a better mood when I ride in! : ) - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 09:52:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27818; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:52:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA05346; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24922; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id LHRJa04959; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <4a137d1e.350947df@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:09 EST To: jlobrien@XXXXXX, ph@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 It's becoming more and more my opinion that we all need to carry around little polaroid cameras so that we can take pictures of things like below and simply mail the photo along with a denial to the DMV ..... hard to argue with a picture sorry to hear that Jeannette ....that sux In a message dated 3/13/98 9:30:56 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: <> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 09:54:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27944; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:54:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA05447; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25144; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1KRYa23135 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:53:48 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <3888f4a1.3509487e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:53:48 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: 3 bikes Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 yes ..... you can also work on controlling the adrenaline flow to various parts of your body during those heart-stopping short stops with nowhere to swerve because cars on left and right are BOTH using your lane to try to pass someone .... I always feel like I'm living in a video game ;D Marcy In a message dated 3/13/98 9:51:04 AM, jwhiteside@XXXXXX wrote: <> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:05:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28182; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:05:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05701; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25633; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:04:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id AADC97027E; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:03:56 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313100510.00ea0de0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:05:10 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FF9E2@badge.tuckerflyer.c om> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:19 AM 3/13/98 -0500, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: >I was similarly ticketed for an offense I didn't commit last Friday. >I parked at a motorcycle meter, paid my fare & went to work. >I came back out to my bike & noticed I had a ticket - FOR THE OTHER >METER!! >I was so angry! >I'm sure DC figures I'll just pay the $15 instead of taking a full day >off work to fight the mess that they call traffic adjudication - >right!?? You got that right. By the way, are you sure it's your ticket? I've heard of people putting their tickets on other vehicles to see if that person will pay it for them. :-) My last ticket was for parking over an hour in a 12-hour zone.(!!) I think it was because they had trainees, and the car parking next to the bike parking is one hour. I put a sign on my bike, in front of the seat, to educate the ticket writers. I checked the "Deny" box and followed the "mail adjudiction" instructions on the back of the ticket. I sent a short letter with the ticket explaining the problem and the likely reason for the error. That was early January, and still no word from them. I called once before, but the ticket wasn't even in the computer by then. We'll see what happens! If my bike gets booted can someone give me a ride home? Chris Norloff P.S. I got a ticket once where I think the ticket writer wrote me for the wrong meter. The way I had parked, then with the bike leaning over on the sidestand, the trunk was actually closer to the car meter in the next slot than to the bike meter is my slot. I hadn't fed the bike meter like I'd intended to so it was out, but based on the time the ticket was written I thought there might have been some meter confusion. I just paid that ticket. But I do take more care in parking ... that my bike is closest to the correct meter. Gotta remember who I'm dealing with! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:05:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28196; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:05:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05709; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:05:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25651; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:05:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-217-241.pitb.grid.net [207.205.217.241]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24680; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:04:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313100559.0069ce90@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:05:59 -0500 To: Morris Berman From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: HJC 90 and other system acoustics Cc: "Thomas H. Gimer" , DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: References: <35089158.2D37@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As I've posted here before, I've got the Autocom and love it. Currently, it's connected to a walkman and a handheld CB. While coming back from North Carolina I was able to listen to tunes (in stereo) and find out from the truckers about upcoming radar traps. The audio was clear even at triple digit speeds and while wearing ear plugs. Autocom rates their units to 120 mph for standard headsets, 160 for pro headsets. Harry At 12:05 AM 3/13/98 -0500, Morris Berman wrote: >I use a collet 49 Mhz communicator with external audio source. It seems >to work pretty well. Mine also has a passenger headset and a single >channel to communicate w/another bike. The microphone is on the end of a >flexible rubber tube. It takes a little patience to bend the tube just >right so that it is out of the way, but close enough to be effective. It >seems to work pretty well. One drawback is that the audio source is >monaural coming out of the communicator, so you lose the "strereo" effect. > >On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Thomas H. Gimer wrote: > >> To any of you who use the HJC 90 communicators, I'd like to know if >> anyone has used the audio input to listen to music while riding and what >> you think of the sound quality. >> >> I currently use earphones that fit into my ears whenever I listen to >> music, but am considering purchasing a communicator/intercom system with >> decent sound quality. >> >> Are JM Audio headsets better? Autocom? >> >> Thanks for the info. >> >> -- >> Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX >> > >-Mb > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX >'96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. > -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- > > Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to > cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:08:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28351; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:08:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05781; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25959; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id ABA8BF0222; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:07:20 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313100839.00ea1860@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:08:39 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Ah, to Ride in to Work.... In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FF9E5@badge.tuckerflyer.c om> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:41 AM 3/13/98 -0500, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: >Anyone else ride in today? But of course! > What a gorgeous morning! I feel like I've >been detoxing 'cause I haven't ridden my baby 'ceptor in a whole week!! >The traffic was rather light today, too, which was nice, so that only >added to my enjoyment. It's funny how I come into work in a better mood >when I ride in! : ) Yes, indeed. Fridays are nice. Except for going home -- too many people dedicated to getting home 30 seconds earlier by driving crazy! :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:25:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28738; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:25:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06314; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26621; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:25:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA24991; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:24:33 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FF9F3@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Chris Norloff'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:24:51 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I did check & it was for my bike, which I couldn't believe!! I, of course, who trust no one, thought immediately that some a*&hole had tried to make me foot the bill, but no such luck!! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 10:05 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] > > At 09:19 AM 3/13/98 -0500, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > >I was similarly ticketed for an offense I didn't commit last Friday. > >I parked at a motorcycle meter, paid my fare & went to work. > >I came back out to my bike & noticed I had a ticket - FOR THE OTHER > >METER!! > >I was so angry! > >I'm sure DC figures I'll just pay the $15 instead of taking a full > day > >off work to fight the mess that they call traffic adjudication - > >right!?? > > You got that right. > > By the way, are you sure it's your ticket? I've heard of people > putting > their tickets on other vehicles to see if that person will pay it for > them. > :-) > > > My last ticket was for parking over an hour in a 12-hour zone.(!!) I > think > it was because they had trainees, and the car parking next to the bike > parking is one hour. I put a sign on my bike, in front of the seat, > to > educate the ticket writers. > > I checked the "Deny" box and followed the "mail adjudiction" > instructions > on the back of the ticket. I sent a short letter with the ticket > explaining the problem and the likely reason for the error. > > That was early January, and still no word from them. I called once > before, > but the ticket wasn't even in the computer by then. We'll see what > happens! > > If my bike gets booted can someone give me a ride home? > > Chris Norloff > > > P.S. I got a ticket once where I think the ticket writer wrote me for > the > wrong meter. The way I had parked, then with the bike leaning over on > the > sidestand, the trunk was actually closer to the car meter in the next > slot > than to the bike meter is my slot. > > I hadn't fed the bike meter like I'd intended to so it was out, but > based > on the time the ticket was written I thought there might have been > some > meter confusion. I just paid that ticket. > > But I do take more care in parking ... that my bike is closest to the > correct meter. Gotta remember who I'm dealing with! > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:27:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28764; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:27:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06350; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from the.martinagency.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26651; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:26:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by the.martinagency.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA24638 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:19:20 -0800 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:26:02 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:27:25 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: 3 bikes -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see not one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more surprised to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the frozen prairie would do it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:40:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29239; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06672; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27336; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:40:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07386; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON ([207.152.142.55]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20448; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:40:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "DC Cycles" Cc: "David Yates" , "ZX Mailing List" Subject: parting out forsale Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:40:23 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4e96$563c5f60$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Selling my ZX11D so I'm parting with the following awesome mods everyone should have: As new (4 months old) CORBIN SEAT! 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Never used outside, only inside to keep dust off the bike in the garage... although it is an all-weather cover! bergie@XXXXXX or 703-793-3863 evenings until 9pm From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:41:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29255; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:41:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06698; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27355; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:41:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA02859 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:40:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA10025 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:40:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980313154044.TWVJ27632@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:40:44 -0600 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:39 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: GSXR-750..Purple! X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980313154044.TWVJ27632@[166.41.242.141]> Got this from the HSTA list, so some of you have already seen. Let the entire page load first, then start at the top....=:0 http://www.ozemail.com.au/~gsmilne/gmgsxr.html#washing T From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:44:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29360; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06756; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27430; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA02078 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA02310 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313154408.XYZD27160@XXXXXX> for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:44:08 -0600 Message-ID: <35095449.86E1584C@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:09 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Ah, to Ride in to Work.... References: <3.0.1.32.19980313100839.00ea1860@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Norloff wrote: > > > Yes, indeed. Fridays are nice. Except for going home -- too many people > dedicated to getting home 30 seconds earlier by driving crazy! > > :-) > Knowing this, I usually take the scenic route home from Chantilly to Woodbridge on Fridays. Yeah, it's 15 miles out of my way, but it's a fun 15 miles, and I figure with the normal Friday traffic I hit, I get home at about the same time. Or so I tell myself. :-) It's not quite so much fun when the temps are hovering in the 30's however...still beats caging it. Dale (the Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:45:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29369; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:45:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06768; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA.COM by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27437; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:37:12 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:41 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Thanks! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Thanks! I appreciate all the advice with my parking ticket. I will try mail adjudication and will use the theories presented here on the list. I'll probably also get some tips from Steve Zarpas at Crow Bar. My letter will be a whole lot more constructive than if I had just fired it off after getting the ticket! Sorry about your ticket, Jeannette! Looks like they are fund raising for the Meter Collector's Ball. Chris, if your bike gets booted give me a call! Sean Sullivan 95 F3 h: 202-298-7875 w: 703-816-8637 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If my bike gets booted can someone give me a ride home? Chris Norloff <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:47:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29417; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:47:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06818; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27492; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:47:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-190.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.190]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA21889 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:53:35 -0500 Message-ID: <350954E2.45A9342A@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:46:42 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 3 bikes References: <3888f4a1.3509487e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I love Frogger, it's so much more fun when it's real. It is important to win every time though when playing in real mode. Leon. Jinn Sinn wrote: > .... I always feel like I'm living in a video game ;D > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:54:24 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29540; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06932; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27673; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id KAA24904; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma024842; Fri, 13 Mar 98 10:53:46 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: 3 bikes Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:12 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain All in all, I've found DC drivers to be far easier to deal with than those in northern Virginia... I've yet to find anything in DC as hair-raising as the various multi-lane surface roads in the suburbs.... --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 9:54 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: RE: 3 bikes > > yes ..... you can also work on controlling the adrenaline flow to > various > parts of your body during those heart-stopping short stops with > nowhere to > swerve because cars on left and right are BOTH using your lane to try > to pass > someone .... I always feel like I'm living in a video game ;D > > Marcy > > In a message dated 3/13/98 9:51:04 AM, jwhiteside@XXXXXX wrote: > > < skills thanks to the potholes.>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:54:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29546; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06951; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27696; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.35.88.77] (1Cust77.tnt4.tco2.da.uu.net [153.35.88.77]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21949 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:54:39 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199803121559.KAA23404@shell.clark.net> References: <199803121545.AA09937@egate2.citicorp.com> from "aki.damme@XXXXXX" at Mar 12, 98 10:43:44 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:53:47 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) >for the full article. It's mostly the religious community that is >applying the heat. Heavens forbid that the masses actually have some >fun in life. > >Are you serious about a group going this Sat night? I wouldn't mind >going with a DC-Cycles group. Is there motorcycle parking availble? :-) Moral Majority. Harumph. Religeon is the opiate of the masses. Sarte. Sarte never saw TV. Calvin & Hobbes. Anyway, whenever I've ever been there, I always parked my bike on the sidewalk, pointing at the street for a fast getaway in best outlaw biker fashion. Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:05:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29724; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07196; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:05:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27994; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4E6F.15BC72D0@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:59:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Todd Peer'" , "'dc-cycles'" Subject: RE: GSXR-750..Purple! Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:59:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That looked like it hurt pretty BAD!!!! OUCH!!!!! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 10:39 AM >To: dc-cycles >Subject: GSXR-750..Purple! > > >Got this from the HSTA list, so some of you have already seen. > >Let the entire page load first, then start at the top....=:0 > > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~gsmilne/gmgsxr.html#washing > >T From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:11:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29779; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:11:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07381; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28185; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:11:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.35.88.77] (1Cust77.tnt4.tco2.da.uu.net [153.35.88.77]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01121 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:11:12 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:10:20 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: Re: 3 bikes >Re: 3 bikes > > It was cold this morning. The seat felt like a brick. > I wanted to check this out with you guys: Have any of you ever received >a ticket for >"failure to park parallel?" I got a $20 parking ticket for this offense in >D.C., while parked >across the street from the Crow Bar in a legal spot with plenty of space >between me and >the cars. I have never seen a bike parked parallel to the curb. > Sean Sullivan > 95 F3 You can take it to court and fight it on the grounds that it is unsafe to park with the wheels paralell to the curb because if you park *with* the flow of traffic, the sidestand will be on the uphill side, creating a tip-over situation in which a pedestrian could be pinned against the curb by a many-hundred pound motorcycle. If you park *against* the flow of traffic, you'll receive a ticket for that too! AND, it's a costlier ticket. The reason this ticket is issued in this situation is there is no statute specifically prohibiting a motorcycle from parking between cars, and this is the only ticket which is applicable. The official line is that the only legal way to park a bike is in a full space, be it a MC space, or a car space. I successfully fought several of these tickets, using the above logic, and by pointing out that the approved MC spaces weren't paralell to the curb either. I think that was the clincher: proving the conflict in the law. Finally, I realized that taking the time off work actually cost me waaay more money than paying the ticket before it doubled. We should get the AMA involved to change the DC statue!!! That's why we all pay our dues, right? YOU DO BELONG TO THE AMA, RIGHT? Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:13:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29802; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07419; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28240; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA17062; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:12:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA19074; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:12:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313161228.UAUZ27632@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:12:28 -0600 Message-ID: <35095AF1.F78917AF@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:12:33 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JOE NAGY CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think there are far more recreational bikers (no offense to anyone) in the DC area than there are hard-core commute to work and ride all weekend type bikers. With some folks it's the suit and tie requirements of their job, with others, well...? I personally used to hate the hot weather down here, when I moved down from Pennsylvania in 1992. Then my wife got me hooked (yeah, it's her fault) on motorcycles, and I suddenly realized that I had near year-round riding weather right here (at least by my definition). Even 90+ degrees is tolerable when you are moving fast enough! :-) I've ridden to work every day this week except Monday (some morning rain scared me off, then it got beatiful and warm, and I was kicking myself - I did take a nice ride Monday evening), and yes, I don't see too many other bikers this time of year (although I waved at two this morning, go figure). They start to come out of the wood-work when things warm up, but then that's still mainly on weekends. So Joe, I guess I do appreciate the roads and weather down here, but our crowd is still kinda small. Gotta go recruit some more... Anyway! Cheers, and ride safe! Dale (the Horkster) 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 JOE NAGY wrote: > > Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I > moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see not > one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more surprised > to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? > > I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great > roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the frozen > prairie would do it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:17:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29879; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07474; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28375; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:17:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA09002; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:17:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:16:20 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FF9FB@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Whiteside, John'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: 3 bikes Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:16:40 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I agree. It seems like DC drivers are more aware of us motorcyclists, perhaps because they have to deal with the couriers and peds all day long darting through, across, around & in their lanes... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Whiteside, John [SMTP:jwhiteside@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 10:54 AM > To: 'Jinn Sinn'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: RE: 3 bikes > > All in all, I've found DC drivers to be far easier to deal with than > those in northern Virginia... I've yet to find anything in DC as > hair-raising as the various multi-lane surface roads in the > suburbs.... > > --John Whiteside > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 9:54 AM > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: RE: 3 bikes > > > > yes ..... you can also work on controlling the adrenaline flow to > > various > > parts of your body during those heart-stopping short stops with > > nowhere to > > swerve because cars on left and right are BOTH using your lane to > try > > to pass > > someone .... I always feel like I'm living in a video game ;D > > > > Marcy > > > > In a message dated 3/13/98 9:51:04 AM, jwhiteside@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > < > skills thanks to the potholes.>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:19:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29952; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:19:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07504; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28480; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.35.88.77] (1Cust77.tnt4.tco2.da.uu.net [153.35.88.77]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05741 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:19:18 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <35089158.2D37@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:18:26 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: Re: HJC 90 and other system acoustics >To any of you who use the HJC 90 communicators, I'd like to know if >anyone has used the audio input to listen to music while riding and what >you think of the sound quality. I've plugged the old Cassette Walkman into the unit, and the sound was shall we say, uninspired, at best. I'm using the in-helmet speakers provided with the unit. No bass to speak of: pretty thin and trebbly. Kinda like an AM transistor radio. Better speakers would be a good suggestion. Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:25:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00105; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07653; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from the.martinagency.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28749; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:25:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by the.martinagency.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA25150 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:17:58 -0800 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:24:36 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:25:53 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Horkster-- I've been trying to corrupt some of the young'uns around the office, but I swear most of 'em were raised by Joan Claybrook! No suit-n-tie deal around here either. Of course all of them -gasp!- play golf. Whatdya gonna do . . . J. Nagy 85 Kawi ZX900 72 Aermacchi/H-D SX350 Sprint 79 Yam RD400F >>> Dale Horstman - 3/13/98 11:12 AM >>> I think there are far more recreational bikers (no offense to anyone) in the DC area than there are hard-core commute to work and ride all weekend type bikers. With some folks it's the suit and tie requirements of their job, with others, well...? I personally used to hate the hot weather down here, when I moved down from Pennsylvania in 1992. Then my wife got me hooked (yeah, it's her fault) on motorcycles, and I suddenly realized that I had near year-round riding weather right here (at least by my definition). Even 90+ degrees is tolerable when you are moving fast enough! :-) I've ridden to work every day this week except Monday (some morning rain scared me off, then it got beatiful and warm, and I was kicking myself - I did take a nice ride Monday evening), and yes, I don't see too many other bikers this time of year (although I waved at two this morning, go figure). They start to come out of the wood-work when things warm up, but then that's still mainly on weekends. So Joe, I guess I do appreciate the roads and weather down here, but our crowd is still kinda small. Gotta go recruit some more... Anyway! Cheers, and ride safe! Dale (the Horkster) 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 JOE NAGY wrote: > > Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I > moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see not > one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more surprised > to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? > > I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great > roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the frozen > prairie would do it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:34:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00384; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:34:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07843; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:34:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29215; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:34:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4E73.1C33E310@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:28:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'JOE NAGY'" Cc: "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:28:12 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would ride my VFR to work everyday(so long as it's not raining) but because of the "dress code" we have here at the office I can't. I don't like to carry a suit and tie w/all the trimmings in a bag anyway... kinda defeats the purpose of looking professional when everything is wrinkled beyond use. When I worked for a firm out in Loudon(with a less stringent dress code) I rode my CB750F all the time. Most of us there had bikes and we rode them to work just about everyday. -Tom > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 11:13 AM >To: JOE NAGY >Cc: DC Cycles List >Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply > >I think there are far more recreational bikers (no offense >to anyone) in the DC area than there are hard-core commute >to work and ride all weekend type bikers. With some folks >it's the suit and tie requirements of their job, with others, >well...? > >I personally used to hate the hot weather down here, when I >moved down from Pennsylvania in 1992. Then my wife got me >hooked (yeah, it's her fault) on motorcycles, and I suddenly >realized that I had near year-round riding weather right >here (at least by my definition). Even 90+ degrees is >tolerable when you are moving fast enough! :-) > >I've ridden to work every day this week except Monday (some >morning rain scared me off, then it got beatiful and warm, >and I was kicking myself - I did take a nice ride Monday evening), >and yes, I don't see too many other bikers this time of year >(although I waved at two this morning, go figure). They start to come >out of the wood-work when things warm up, but then that's still >mainly on weekends. > >So Joe, I guess I do appreciate the roads and weather down here, >but our crowd is still kinda small. Gotta go recruit some more... > >Anyway! Cheers, and ride safe! > >Dale (the Horkster) > >1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD >1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > > > >JOE NAGY wrote: >> >> Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I >> moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see not >> one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more surprised >> to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? >> >> I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great >> roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the frozen >> prairie would do it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:42:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00862; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08003; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29717; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA02252; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA12996; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:41:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313164145.WPBE4928@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:41:45 -0500 Message-ID: <350961C9.52A9C448@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:41:45 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JOE NAGY CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Personally, I never could figure out how to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those clubs on the bike either. So I gave up golf (for a while at least - $till in $earch of a championship length cour$e with decent green$ fee$. Dale (the Horkster) PS: And my clubs are probably about 20 years old, too, just like my bike! JOE NAGY wrote: > > Horkster-- > I've been trying to corrupt some of the young'uns around the office, but > I swear most of 'em were raised by Joan Claybrook! No suit-n-tie deal > around here either. Of course all of them -gasp!- play golf. Whatdya > gonna do . . . > J. Nagy > 85 Kawi ZX900 > 72 Aermacchi/H-D SX350 Sprint > 79 Yam RD400F > > >>> Dale Horstman - 3/13/98 11:12 AM >>> > I think there are far more recreational bikers (no offense > to anyone) in the DC area than there are hard-core commute > to work and ride all weekend type bikers. With some folks > it's the suit and tie requirements of their job, with others, > well...? > > I personally used to hate the hot weather down here, when I > moved down from Pennsylvania in 1992. Then my wife got me > hooked (yeah, it's her fault) on motorcycles, and I suddenly > realized that I had near year-round riding weather right > here (at least by my definition). Even 90+ degrees is > tolerable when you are moving fast enough! :-) > > I've ridden to work every day this week except Monday (some > morning rain scared me off, then it got beatiful and warm, > and I was kicking myself - I did take a nice ride Monday evening), > and yes, I don't see too many other bikers this time of year > (although I waved at two this morning, go figure). They start to come > out of the wood-work when things warm up, but then that's still > mainly on weekends. > > So Joe, I guess I do appreciate the roads and weather down here, > but our crowd is still kinda small. Gotta go recruit some more... > > Anyway! Cheers, and ride safe! > > Dale (the Horkster) > > 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD > 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > > JOE NAGY wrote: > > > > Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I > > moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see > not > > one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more > surprised > > to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? > > > > I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great > > roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the > frozen > > prairie would do it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:57:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01237; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:57:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08221; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00271; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:57:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.35.88.77] (1Cust77.tnt4.tco2.da.uu.net [153.35.88.77]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25753 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:56:58 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:56:07 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols >The best(most interesting) weapon I've ever fired was a genuine Chinese >military issue bolt-action rifle. I don't know what model it was, but I >know it was about 60 years old. Man did that thing have some major kick >to it! It also had the complete bayonet assembly in the stock along >with instructions for use(I believe).... Pretty neat! When I was A Kid (which feels like a long time ago) I used to compete in target shooting. I had a Remington which was a single shot bolt action .22 rifle which was very accurate. Sold it for $200 to buy my first street bike. I'd really love to shoot some real high-dollar target rifles as mine was kinda bargain basement. However, the most interesting and accurate 'big gun' I've ever shot was a WWII German Artilery Issue Mauser long rifle. The barrel was fully 9" longer than the infantry model, and it didn't have bayonnet lugs. Owned by a friend, we used to go to my property in W.Va and hit coke cans @ 100 yards, and explode milk jugs of water @ 300 yards. NATO rounds, (7.something) so it was pretty cheap to shoot. Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:02:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01423; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08298; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:02:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00483; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:02:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4E76.FE250B70@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:56:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'JOE NAGY'" Cc: "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:55:59 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey... when I was down in VA Beach last summer there was a guy that had a Wing complete with a matching extended trailer.... he was carrying all of his golf stuff in the back of it... and now for a really interesting tid-bit... he was traveling with another guy who was "driving" a rather new Wing that had been turned into a 'trike! It was had a steering wheel and true "underneath" exhaust with get this.... Flowmaster mufflers.... rather loud... actually sounded pretty cool! That's all I have to say about that. -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 11:42 AM >To: JOE NAGY >Cc: DC Cycles List >Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply > >Personally, I never could figure out how >to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, >golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those >clubs on the bike either. So I gave up golf (for >a while at least - $till in $earch of a championship >length cour$e with decent green$ fee$. > >Dale (the Horkster) > >PS: And my clubs are probably about 20 years old, >too, just like my bike! > > > >JOE NAGY wrote: >> >> Horkster-- >> I've been trying to corrupt some of the young'uns around the office, but >> I swear most of 'em were raised by Joan Claybrook! No suit-n-tie deal >> around here either. Of course all of them -gasp!- play golf. Whatdya >> gonna do . . . >> J. Nagy >> 85 Kawi ZX900 >> 72 Aermacchi/H-D SX350 Sprint >> 79 Yam RD400F >> >> >>> Dale Horstman - 3/13/98 11:12 AM >>> >> I think there are far more recreational bikers (no offense >> to anyone) in the DC area than there are hard-core commute >> to work and ride all weekend type bikers. With some folks >> it's the suit and tie requirements of their job, with others, >> well...? >> >> I personally used to hate the hot weather down here, when I >> moved down from Pennsylvania in 1992. Then my wife got me >> hooked (yeah, it's her fault) on motorcycles, and I suddenly >> realized that I had near year-round riding weather right >> here (at least by my definition). Even 90+ degrees is >> tolerable when you are moving fast enough! :-) >> >> I've ridden to work every day this week except Monday (some >> morning rain scared me off, then it got beatiful and warm, >> and I was kicking myself - I did take a nice ride Monday evening), >> and yes, I don't see too many other bikers this time of year >> (although I waved at two this morning, go figure). They start to come >> out of the wood-work when things warm up, but then that's still >> mainly on weekends. >> >> So Joe, I guess I do appreciate the roads and weather down here, >> but our crowd is still kinda small. Gotta go recruit some more... >> >> Anyway! Cheers, and ride safe! >> >> Dale (the Horkster) >> >> 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD >> 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 >> >> JOE NAGY wrote: >> > >> > Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I >> > moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see >> not >> > one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more >> surprised >> > to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? >> > >> > I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great >> > roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the >> frozen >> > prairie would do it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:07:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01580; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:07:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08392; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00829; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:07:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id MAA14609; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:07:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA27397; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:07:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.32.84.59]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980313170706.WXKX4928@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:07:06 -0500 From: "Linda Tanner" To: "Dc-Cycles" Cc: "'JOE NAGY'" Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:07:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <19980313170706.WXKX4928@LJTanner.mcit.com> I ride every day. We went business casual here last year, so I just bring in a pair of slacks that I change into. I keep my cowboys boots (work shoes) under my desk. Before we went business casual, I wore a dress every day that I carried (with shoes, slip etc.) and changed once I got here. It's sure easier this way. I have this huge pile of my riding gear here in my cube. One piece cordura riding suit, electric glove and chaps and vest, neck warmer, tights and sweatshirt (when it's really cold). I need my own closet. Some of are fortunate (and crazy). LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:19:22 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02103; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:19:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08501; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:19:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemini.smart.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01711; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:19:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from richard (max2p210.smart.net [206.97.127.210]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12426; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:19:03 -0500 Message-ID: <35096A00.6087@smart.net> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:16:48 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Gimer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply References: <350961C9.52A9C448@mci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale Horstman wrote: > > Personally, I never could figure out how > to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, > golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those > clubs on the bike either. So I gave up golf (for > a while at least - $till in $earch of a championship > length cour$e with decent green$ fee$. > > Dale (the Horkster) Try Little Bennett Golf Course up in northern Montgomery County. Excellent layout, not too crowded, and reasonable greens fees. If you have friends that will drive your clubs up there for you, it is also an excellent area to ride. -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:30:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02414; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08606; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:30:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02203; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id AD053D0266; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:29:41 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313112030.00f1f1a0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:20:30 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:27 AM 3/13/98 -0500, JOE NAGY wrote: >Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I >moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see not >one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more surprised >to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? > >I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great >roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the frozen >prairie would do it. I think the biggest problem for most riders around here is the ice. With all the freezes & thaws it's easy to get ice. 2 of us reported ice yesterday. The other thing is the traffic. I think this area is second only to Los Angeles in traffic density (and I'm sure we lead in density of drivers :-) Combine that with no legal lane splitting, crazed yuppies zooming around in their Lexi and Expeditions, and a very international set of drivers, including diplomats, and you get quite a mix! Me, I love it. It's a challenge and a lesson. When to push, when to flow. It's the best way for me to get around. anything's okay if it's got less than 4 wheels, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:44:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02785; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08730; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02824; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A04566801C4; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:43:33 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313124452.00f22d10@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:52 -0500 To: DC Cycles List From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply In-Reply-To: <350961C9.52A9C448@mci.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:41 AM 3/13/98 -0500, Dale Horstman wrote: >Personally, I never could figure out how >to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, >golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those >clubs on the bike either. So I gave up golf (for >a while at least - $till in $earch of a championship >length cour$e with decent green$ fee$. Motorized polo? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:44:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02790; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08728; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02823; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A04466801C4; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:43:32 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313124417.00f24c50@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:17 -0500 To: "'DC Cycles List'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:28 AM 3/13/98 -0500, Tom Zell wrote: >I would ride my VFR to work everyday(so long as it's not raining) but >because of the "dress code" we have here at the office I can't. I don't >like to carry a suit and tie w/all the trimmings in a bag anyway... >kinda defeats the purpose of looking professional when everything is >wrinkled beyond use. That's why I got my Aerostich. I carry my suit coat loosely folded in my luggage, and keep my dress shoes in the office. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:48:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02935; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:48:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08808; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:48:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlt5.dlt.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03052; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:47:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803131747.MAA03052@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: from ANITA by dlt5.dlt.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id F4V743KV; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:57:08 -0500 X-Sender: 2xracers@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:48:16 -0500 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Okay, since the weather appears to be cooperating I can definitely say that I'll be at the Exxon in Middleburg by about 10:45 am or so. If I'm not readily visible at the Exxon, I'll be checking out that pastry shop that Michael mentioned! I'd like to hit the road by 11:15 at the latest... so, if you know for sure you'll be there you can drop me a line (or call 703-406-8046 up until 10:00 am Sunday), and we'll make sure to wait until everyone is accounted for. If you decided to join the ride at the last minute and miss us in Middleburg, our route will be Rte 748 (Sam Fred Road) north to Rte 734 (Snickersville Gap Turnpike) which we'll follow all the way to Bluemont, VA. I hope everyone has a great time riding this weekend! Anita 95 Nighthawk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:49:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02961; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08848; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03142; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:49:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA03265 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:49:34 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:49:34 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:44 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 12 TEXT >Personally, I never could figure out how >to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, >golf, with motorcycling Coming out of New York (state) a couple of years ago, I overtook a pair of wingers with their club bags bungeed across the passenger accomodations. Michael J. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:01:24 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03228; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09340; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:01:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03697; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:01:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id NAA08867; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA14157; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:00:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313180041.YPYD27160@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:00:41 -0600 Message-ID: <3509744A.8C086620@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:00:42 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Lapp CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: AMA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan Lapp asked: > > We should get the AMA involved to change the DC statue!!! That's why we > all pay our dues, right? YOU DO BELONG TO THE AMA, RIGHT? > At the risk of starting another thread war, no, I am consciously not a member of the AMA. I'm sure they've done a lot of good work on the behalf of motorcyclists everywhere, but none of my money is going to fight against the helmet laws. I won't join until they give up that cause. PS: And I could use that parts discount, too! Dale (the Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:04:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03377; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09576; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:04:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03910; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:04:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-190.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.190]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA26079; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:10:27 -0500 Message-ID: <350974F2.73062EDD@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:03:31 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Zell CC: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'JOE NAGY'" , "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's easy to wear a suit with coat and tie and ride to work. Option 1) a pair of Sears coveralls for the summer, and a snowmobile suit for the winter or Option 2) an Aerostich. In the morning it's usually cool enough to get to work without sweating too badly and at night you can change when you get home. You will also need to have at least one piece of decent luggage so you can fold your jacket carefully and carry it to work. I wear cowboy boots with my suit, so that's not a problem. If your heritage or sense of fashion precludes boots with your suit, do what the ladies do and keep a pair of dress shoes at the office. Leon. Tom Zell wrote: > I would ride my VFR to work everyday(so long as it's not raining) but > because of the "dress code" we have here at the office I can't. I don't > like to carry a suit and tie w/all the trimmings in a bag anyway... > kinda defeats the purpose of looking professional when everything is > wrinkled beyond use. > > When I worked for a firm out in Loudon(with a less stringent dress code) > I rode my CB750F all the time. Most of us there had bikes and we rode > them to work just about everyday. > > -Tom > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 11:13 AM > >To: JOE NAGY > >Cc: DC Cycles List > >Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply > > > >I think there are far more recreational bikers (no offense > >to anyone) in the DC area than there are hard-core commute > >to work and ride all weekend type bikers. With some folks > >it's the suit and tie requirements of their job, with others, > >well...? > > > >I personally used to hate the hot weather down here, when I > >moved down from Pennsylvania in 1992. Then my wife got me > >hooked (yeah, it's her fault) on motorcycles, and I suddenly > >realized that I had near year-round riding weather right > >here (at least by my definition). Even 90+ degrees is > >tolerable when you are moving fast enough! :-) > > > >I've ridden to work every day this week except Monday (some > >morning rain scared me off, then it got beatiful and warm, > >and I was kicking myself - I did take a nice ride Monday evening), > >and yes, I don't see too many other bikers this time of year > >(although I waved at two this morning, go figure). They start to come > >out of the wood-work when things warm up, but then that's still > >mainly on weekends. > > > >So Joe, I guess I do appreciate the roads and weather down here, > >but our crowd is still kinda small. Gotta go recruit some more... > > > >Anyway! Cheers, and ride safe! > > > >Dale (the Horkster) > > > >1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD > >1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > > > > > > > >JOE NAGY wrote: > >> > >> Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I > >> moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see not > >> one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more surprised > >> to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? > >> > >> I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great > >> roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the frozen > >> prairie would do it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:11:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03564; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:11:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09887; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from the.martinagency.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04301; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by the.martinagency.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA26008 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:04:15 -0800 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:10:53 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:12:03 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Chris Norloff wrote: I think the biggest problem for most riders around here is the ice. With all the freezes & thaws it's easy to get ice. 2 of us reported ice yesterday. The other thing is the traffic. I think this area is second only to Los Angeles in traffic density (and I'm sure we lead in density of drivers :-) Combine that with no legal lane splitting, crazed yuppies zooming around in their Lexi and Expeditions, and a very international set of drivers, including diplomats, and you get quite a mix! Me, I love it. It's a challenge and a lesson. When to push, when to flow. It's the best way for me to get around. anything's okay if it's got less than 4 wheels, Chris Norloff DCers, I hope too many people didn't take my "fair weather biker" crack to heart, because really, braving the cold and sometimes icy roads ain't for everyone. And you're right, the traffic in the city (and all of Northern VA for that matter) is bad news. What amazes me is that more people aren't out riding in the country during these long and warm spring and fall seasons. And for that matter, why there aren't more bikers in VA, period. Last time I saw a list of registrations by state, states like Minnesota and Michigan had more riders than Virginia. Now that's just plain weird. J.Nagy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:31:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03983; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:31:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10387; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA05148; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22386; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:31:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35097B48.31FDEB0C@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:30:33 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: GSXR-750..Purple! References: <19980313154044.TWVJ27632@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WOW!! He did some serious mods to that bike!!!! Hope I never modify a bike like that! CT From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:43:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04146; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10526; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:43:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA05501; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28153; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:42:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35097E05.763FA870@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:42:13 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX CC: JOE NAGY , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply References: <350961C9.52A9C448@mci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I to have put off golf for the most part lately, but mostly because of the expense and time...Every weekend this past summer, I put no less than 400 miles on the gixer..sometimes a lot more than that... Adding in gas (lots of it), many food stops (very much required) and 3-5 sets of tires per year (that really sucks) I couldn't really afford to play golf any more... As for carrying clubs, back in Jr. High and High school I was on the golf team, and before turning 16 and getting my cage (ugly 425hp Camaro), I used to put my clubs over my shoulder and ride my itty bitty KE100 the 12 miles to the course every day!! The only time it was ever tough was on high wind days...but SW Oklahoma never gets any of those ;-) Add me to the year round rider list...This year I've been bummed lately though..getting rid of the gixer very soon and haven't been riding it, and the KZ still requires a regulator which will soon be rectified (he he.. I made a funny)... Collin (measely 26k miles since I moved here a year and a half ago) Dale Horstman wrote: > Personally, I never could figure out how > to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, > golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those > clubs on the bike either. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:53:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04389; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:53:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10667; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA05902; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A07E5C022C; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:52:46 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313135310.00f2bbb0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:53:10 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: AMA In-Reply-To: <3509744A.8C086620@mci.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:00 PM 3/13/98 -0500, Dale Horstman wrote: >At the risk of starting another thread war, no, I am >consciously not a member of the AMA. I'm sure they've >done a lot of good work on the behalf of motorcyclists >everywhere, but none of my money is going to fight >against the helmet laws. I won't join until they give >up that cause. I can certainly relate. With the AMA, it's a trade-off ... they do some fantastic work for motorcyclists' rights all over the country. Basically it's either ABATE chapters (usually state-level only) and the AMA (national level), or individuals who band together for a local cause (Virginia Coalition of Motorcyclists). I think it's worth it to join the AMA. I'm not currently a member, but that has to do with my dropping most memberships and magazines for financial reasons. I got a good education about this dilemma when I was fighting for the Maryland Motorcycle Safety Program. We lobbied through the winter 'cause that's when the legislative session was on. And it was interesting to see who came. Instructors, a few motorcyclist rights promoters, and ABATE folks. There was no one from the sport bike crowd, no one from the touring bike crowd. But the folks who believe that helmets kill, that helmets have killed more people than all the wars this century, those folks were always there and were always working for motorcyclists' rights. With their help, Maryland still has a motorcycle safety program. So the old saying that politics makes strange bedfellows is still apt (though it might be a bit dated in these '90s!). Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:55:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04421; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:55:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10684; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA06006; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id NAA29716 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA21490 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:52:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313185249.YDPU4928@XXXXXX> for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:52:49 -0500 Message-ID: <35098081.35BDE148@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:52:49 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: moto polo References: <3.0.1.32.19980313124452.00f22d10@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought of that, I could use the throttle lock and even swing with my right hand. Putting might be a bitch, however. All those tire ruts on the greens... :-) Would the caddy have to ride pillion? Hmm. Can you tell it's Friday? I want outta here! Dale (the Horkster) Chris Norloff wrote: > > At 11:41 AM 3/13/98 -0500, Dale Horstman wrote: > >Personally, I never could figure out how > >to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, > >golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those > >clubs on the bike either. So I gave up golf (for > >a while at least - $till in $earch of a championship > >length cour$e with decent green$ fee$. > > Motorized polo? > > Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:58:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04738; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10731; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:58:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA06509; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id NAA00248; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:57:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:56:50 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA02@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'JOE NAGY'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:57:09 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got my first bike in August & it hasn't sat for a week except last week, mainly due to riding in with my fianc=E9e in the cage. However, = I ride all the time I can - I LOVE IT!! I got electrics because I knew I wouldn't ride as much without being at least semi-warm & I wanted to become more proficient by the Spring, so they've been a godsend of an investment! I agree with Chris, I look at rain, cold, etc. more as a challenge than anything else. I mean, I'm not going to be stupid & ride around in freezing rain or ice, but I would like to learn to handle the tougher riding situations (rain, etc.) in case I ever simply can not avoid = them, like if I get stuck somewhere on the bike. Unfortunately, my car has now sat for about 2 weeks without being = turned over once. I just hope it does start if I ever need it again!! ; ) On the work clothes problem: I leave my heels & my nice boots at work, stuff a wrinkle-proof dress in my backpack & change when I get to work... Sometimes I'll wear nice pants under my leathers. It works = out ok for me, although I do get a lot of strange looks when I'm on the elevator... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: JOE NAGY [SMTP:NAGYJ@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 1:12 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; cnorloff@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply >=20 > Chris Norloff wrote: >=20 > I think the biggest problem for most riders around here is the ice.=20 > With > all the freezes & thaws it's easy to get ice. 2 of us reported ice > yesterday. >=20 > The other thing is the traffic. I think this area is second only to > Los > Angeles in traffic density (and I'm sure we lead in density of = drivers >=20 > :-) > Combine that with no legal lane splitting, crazed yuppies zooming > around > in their Lexi and Expeditions, and a very international set of > drivers, > including diplomats, and you get quite a mix! >=20 > Me, I love it. It's a challenge and a lesson. When to push, when to > flow. > It's the best way for me to get around. >=20 > anything's okay if it's got less than 4 wheels, > Chris Norloff >=20 > DCers, > I hope too many people didn't take my "fair weather biker" crack to > heart, because really, braving the cold and sometimes icy roads ain't > for everyone. And you're right, the traffic in the city (and all of > Northern VA for that matter) is bad news. What amazes me is that = more > people aren't out riding in the country during these long and warm > spring and fall seasons. And for that matter, why there aren't more > bikers in VA, period. Last time I saw a list of registrations by > state, > states like Minnesota and Michigan had more riders than Virginia. = Now > that's just plain weird. =20 > J.Nagy >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:00:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04835; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:00:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA10786; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:00:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06621; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id NAA02273; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA11162; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313185945.YFHX4928@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:59:45 -0500 Message-ID: <35098221.8E26A15B@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:59:45 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Collin T. Fagan" CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply References: <350961C9.52A9C448@mci.com> <35097E05.763FA870@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Collin, We all know I'm a big KZ fan, but isn't that a bit of a steep dropoff after the Gixer? =:-o Anyway, you'll have much less bodywork to drag in the corners! Glad to hear you'll be back to riding soon! Dale (the Horkster) Collin T. wrote: > > This year I've been bummed lately > though..getting rid of the gixer very soon and haven't been riding it, and the > KZ still requires a regulator which will soon be rectified (he he.. I made a > funny)... > > Collin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:02:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04902; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:02:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA10801; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:02:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06721; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18880; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:01:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01303; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:01:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803131901.OAA01303@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: moto polo To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:01:55 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: <35098081.35BDE148@mci.com> from "Dale Horstman " at Mar 13, 98 01:52:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I thought of that, I could use the > throttle lock and even swing with > my right hand. Us lefties would have a much better shot! :-) > Putting might be a bitch, however. > All those tire ruts on the greens... :-) Well, they came out with street hocky, how about parking lot polo? > Would the caddy have to ride pillion? Hmm. Just ride by and pick up a new club. It's not like we're walking. > Can you tell it's Friday? I want outta here! I have to give a briefing to the director of my agency at 3:30. I'm in a full suit and tie. Can't use the bike because I need to take a heavy laptop with me that doesn't like vibrations. I wanna go home and RIDE!! Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:05:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05003; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA10905; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:05:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06859; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:05:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21530; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:05:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02097; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:05:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803131905.OAA02097@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply To: jlobrien@XXXXXX (O'Brien, Jeannette" ) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:05:12 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA02@badge.tuckerflyer.com> from "O'Brien, Jeannette" " at Mar 13, 98 01:57:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I got my first bike in August & it hasn't sat for a week except last > week, mainly due to riding in with my fiancee in the cage. You mean Tom has been a BAD influence on you?!?! For shame. > Unfortunately, my car has now sat for about 2 weeks without being turned > over once. I just hope it does start if I ever need it again!! ; ) My car serves as a portable garage. Holds my tools, the motorcycle cover and lock when I'm out riding, and other things. And for times like today when I can't use the bike, it comes in handy. :-) Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:10:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05307; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA10997; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:10:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA07237; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:10:20 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.8 3-18-1997)) id 852565C6.00697FB7 ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:12:19 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C6.006967A8.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:12:17 -0400 Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII This year I've been bummed lately though..getting rid of the gixer very soon and haven't been riding it, Well I guess that means you're going to have to get a copy of MANX TT to get your knee dragging fix now. I thought you were going to go race at Summit Point this year. Any plans to replace the Gixer any time soon? Steve Beck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:14:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05400; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11056; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA07417; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:14:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-190.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.190]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA28214; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:20:34 -0500 Message-ID: <35098564.4EB1E4AB@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:13:40 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: moto polo References: <3.0.1.32.19980313124452.00f22d10@mail.toward.com> <35098081.35BDE148@mci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale and Chris discussed moto polo: This ought to be a two people per bike sport. Let the pillion operate the stick and the rider put her in position to use it. (This is of course a co-ed sport) It would also work to have her operate the bike and he would stick. Leon. Dale Horstman wrote: > I thought of that, I could use the > throttle lock and even swing with > my right hand. > > Putting might be a bitch, however. > All those tire ruts on the greens... :-) > > Would the caddy have to ride pillion? Hmm. > > Can you tell it's Friday? I want outta here! > > Dale (the Horkster) > > Chris Norloff wrote: > > > > At 11:41 AM 3/13/98 -0500, Dale Horstman wrote: > > >Personally, I never could figure out how > > >to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, > > >golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those > > >clubs on the bike either. So I gave up golf (for > > >a while at least - $till in $earch of a championship > > >length cour$e with decent green$ fee$. > > > > Motorized polo? > > > > Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:24:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05584; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11188; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:24:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA07789; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:24:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19831 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:24:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350987B4.D13F92F@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:23:32 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FF9F3@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bummer for all you guys (and girls) that have to park outside in DC... Here at the DOT building, we have dedicated motorcycle parking right next to the guard shack, it's out of the weather, and only $6 per month... To make the deal even sweeter, you can still collect transit benefits cause they assume that you don't ride in the cold and bad weather....good thing i have all those things saved up since I've been using them so much lately :( For any of you other federal workers in the area (6&D) check into it with our parking management (366-0064) and they might be able to hook you up with a spot....plenty of em open. Collin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:29:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05796; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:29:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11267; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:29:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA08176; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:29:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22302; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:29:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350988DC.21AC68D6@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:28:28 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sbeck@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: gixer gone for due to racing References: <852565C6.0068ED00.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess I should have clarified...I'm getting rid of the 93 so it can be replaced with a 97 model that will be for the racetrack only... Although I'm not going to be ready for the first race date of April 11, I'm hoping I'll still be able to pit with Brian McCoy (unless I've irked him off by not calling lately) CT sbeck@XXXXXX wrote: > This year I've been bummed lately though..getting rid of the gixer very > soon and haven't been riding it, > > Well I guess that means you're going to have to get a copy of MANX TT to > get your knee dragging fix now. > > I thought you were going to go race at Summit Point this year. Any plans > to replace the Gixer any time soon? > > Steve Beck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:46:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06217; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:46:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11453; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:46:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA09008; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id NAA22561 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:45:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA18459 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:45:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.32.84.59]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980313194537.YSRF4928@XXXXXX> for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:45:37 -0500 From: "Linda Tanner" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: MCs and Laptops Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:45:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199803131901.OAA01303@shell.clark.net> Message-Id: <19980313194537.YSRF4928@LJTanner.mcit.com> >From the day I started riding to/from work (3 years ago), I have been carrying a laptop with me. That includes my 50mph get-off. The laptop was a IBM Thinkpad and it was strapped to my tank. When I finally got home after the ordeal, I plugged it in (with great trepidation) and it came right up. Truly the Timex of laptops. Currently I have a Toshiba Tecra that weighs a pound more than the Thinkpad and rides in one of my saddlebags. Back and forth everyday. I did make a closed cell foam envelope to lessen the effects of the vibrations and have never shown any ill effects. FYI YMMV LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze -----Original Message----- From: Louis F. Caplan [mailto:louis@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 2:02 PM To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Cc: DC-Cycles List Subject: Re: moto polo > I have to give a briefing to the director of my agency at 3:30. I'm in a full suit and tie. Can't use the bike because I need to take a heavy laptop with me that doesn't like vibrations. I wanna go home and RIDE!! Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:52:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06417; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11528; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA09349; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:51:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.76.136]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA17201 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:51:09 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: Subject: Re: AMA Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:47:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4eb8$daaf1c20$884c440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Dale-- Sometimes you gotta take the good with the bad. I was once a member of both PETA and the NRA. I'm a vegetarian and carry a gun; what else could I do? The AMA is doing a lot of important things for you and needs your support. You can join the AMA and contribute to a pro-helmet-law group. The part of your AMA dues that go to fighting helmet laws will be offset by the efforts of the helmet law group you support, while the AMA can better continue securing your right to ride. Later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:53:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06439; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:53:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11763; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA09413; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:53:18 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565C6.006D0E4C ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:51:10 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C6.006C9245.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:47:50 -0500 Subject: Re: moto polo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=AwiOEQqDUkIjAo1V0IFOKlfVZpzZjC3u68gikW5KW1pY6J3RnxN5NWt1" --0__=AwiOEQqDUkIjAo1V0IFOKlfVZpzZjC3u68gikW5KW1pY6J3RnxN5NWt1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Back at school we used to play mountainbike polo all the time...I imaging the motorcycle equivalent of getting the polo mallet caught in your front wheel, ripping out two spokes, and going over the handlebars only to have the MTB land on top of you would cause much more damage than only a skinned knee. :-) -Doug see y'all Sunday! 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We lobbied through the winter 'cause >that's when the legislative session was on. And it was interesting to see >who came. Instructors, a few motorcyclist rights promoters, and ABATE >folks. There was no one from the sport bike crowd, no one from the touring >bike crowd. But the folks who believe that helmets kill, that helmets have >killed more people than all the wars this century, those folks were always >there and were always working for motorcyclists' rights. With their help, >Maryland still has a motorcycle safety program. Just FYI: MD Abate has been set back again in the federal appeals court. Federal appeals ruled that even though MD failed to provide a list of approved helmets (though the law is written that they would), MD recieves federal funding for roadways and is subject to the mandate of our ever watchful big brother. I have mixed feelings on this. First, I think Mike (?lastname) from Abate, should have figured this would happen if they went to a FEDERAL COURT!!! I'm shaking my head. Second, it just pisses me off that MD would allow this to happen as well. Like a couple of children asking Uncle Sam to settle their dispute, and Uncle Sam has no interest in either sides case. Uncle Sam has Uncle Sams interests in mind. BTW, the argument that helmets kill is a smokescreen! It's just a ruse to get more people concerned about the lidless rider agenda. I used to be a contributing member of NORML of DC (National Organization for Reform of Marijauna Laws), until they started this same sort of tactic. They tried to convince everyone that Pot is medicinal, and has desirable textile qualities. A ruse for the potsmoker agenda. I won't be baited into a pissing match either way concerning the use non-use of helmets based on whether helmets are killers or saviours, and whether or not wearing one saves society from stupid acts by stupid people.....Unless you have some substantive, statistically relevent facts to back your case. Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:05:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06667; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12206; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:05:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo30.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA09992; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:05:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo30.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id PQPLa15070; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:04:31 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <22bf5908.35099149@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:04:31 EST To: linda.tanner@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: 3 bikes -Reply Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/13/98 12:15:10 PM, linda.tanner@XXXXXX wrote: <> I have one comment........FIRST GEAR OVERPANTS.......you can wear your regular siut or whatever underneath......they work GREAT Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:08:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06708; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12249; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:08:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10072; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:08:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-219-92.pitb.grid.net [207.205.219.92]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02693; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:08:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313150948.006a2f20@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:09:48 -0500 To: "Linda Tanner" From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: MCs and Laptops Cc: "Dc-Cycles" In-Reply-To: <19980313194537.YSRF4928@LJTanner.mcit.com> References: <199803131901.OAA01303@shell.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" When I commute to work, I just strap my laptop case to the rack on the bike of the bike. So far my Dell Inspiron (P233 with a 13.3" screen) hasn't complained. On my trip to Asheville, I put the laptop in much smaller case (more like a padded envelope), then put that inside a hard bag on the rack. Again, no troubles. To limit vibration, strapping it to the passenger portion of the seat might be better than the tank or tail. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:13:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06746; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:12:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12342; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10171; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id NAHAa14703; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:09:43 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <6f889f8b.35099289@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:09:43 EST To: mrider@XXXXXX, Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: moto polo Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 despite the afterthought of a disclaimer ..... I MUST ask why it's assumed the pillion is a HER ;D ............. my first pillion after all was a MAN heh heh Marcy In a message dated 3/13/98 2:29:11 PM, mrider@XXXXXX wrote: <> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:15:31 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06770; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:15:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12380; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA.COM by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10236; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:07:50 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:15:31 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, NAGYJ@XXXXXX Subject: Joe, Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Joe, You've heard from Jeannette about the Crow Bar's cool factor. Fun place to hang out, with pool tables and the biker dive bar atmosphere. There are a lot of big expensive hotels in the area with garages. The Crow Bar is on K St. and 21st St. (maybe 22nd), so any hotel with an address around 2100 on M St. or K St. should work, as will the expensive Mayflower on Connecticut Ave. For cheaper places within driving distance, check out Arlington, Va. Sean 95 F3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hate to interrupt this whole nudie-bar thing but I wonder if someone could float me a clue about the Crow Bar. Cool or lame? If cool, is there a hotel around with secure bike parking? Thanks for the help; don't know DC too well. Joe 85 Ninja 900 Richmond VA <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:21:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06834; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:21:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12496; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:21:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10382; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:20:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id OAA07446; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:20:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA15113; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980313202026.ZCZM4928@[166.41.242.141]>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:20:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:16 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: "kevin thomas" CC: Subject: Re: AMA X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980313202026.ZCZM4928@[166.41.242.141]> Kevin Thomas wrote: >Dale-- > >Sometimes you gotta take the good with the bad. I was once a member of both >PETA and the NRA. I'm a vegetarian and carry a gun; what else could I do? LOL! >The AMA is doing a lot of important things for you and needs your support. >You can join the AMA and contribute to a pro-helmet-law group. The part of >your AMA dues that go to fighting helmet laws will be offset by the efforts >of the helmet law group you support, while the AMA can better continue >securing your right to ride. I quit the AMA about two years ago because I thought they were just too pro Harley with no regard to other marquees or rider concerns. I rejoined last year because, like it or not the AMA is the one organization that will go to bat for you if you feel you've been unjusted because you ride. Sort of like the ACLU. Don't like all the cases they take, but they do a good job sticking to what's right (whether I agree or not). Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:33:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06977; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:33:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12571; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10611; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:32:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA10875 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA12674; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:31:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313203145.ZGBZ27160@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:31:45 -0600 Message-ID: <350997B1.6A0E1CE5@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:31:45 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: AMA References: <19980313195934.UZKP27632@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Peer wrote: > > > Just FYI: > > MD Abate has been set back again in the federal appeals court. > Federal appeals ruled that even though MD failed to provide a list of > approved helmets (though the law is written that they would), MD recieves > federal funding for roadways and is subject to the mandate of our ever > watchful big brother. > > For what it's worth, I found an ABATE (I think) webpage somewhere that had a ready to send letter to the MD legislature asking just what their approved list of helmets was. On a lark, I decided to fill it out and send it via email. A few weeks later, I got a form letter response via snail mail. Essentially MD is claiming that any helmet that is DOT and/or Snell approved is suitable. It's still not satisfying the letter of the MD law, and I agree that MD should re-word the law somehow, but at least they responded. I've found it's much easier to be involved with real-world laws and politics now that stuff is accessible via computers. In a lot of ways, it's kind of neat. :-) Dale (the politically responsible citizen Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:34:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06992; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:34:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12634; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:34:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10661; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:34:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA11777; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA07461; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313203329.ZGHN27160@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:33:29 -0600 Message-ID: <3509981A.D82A59EA@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:33:30 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jinn Sinn CC: Leon Begeman , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: moto polo References: <6f889f8b.35099289@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Better hand-eye coordination? Hah! Gotcha there! No chauvinists in this crowd! Dale (the Horkster) Jinn Sinn wrote: > > despite the afterthought of a disclaimer ..... I MUST ask why it's assumed the > pillion is a HER ;D ............. my first pillion after all was a MAN heh heh > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:43:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07250; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:43:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12718; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA11031; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:43:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id PAA05880; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:43:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:41:50 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA19@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , mrider@XXXXXX, Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Re: moto polo Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:42:08 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I personally think the guy should always be operating the stick. - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 3:10 PM > To: mrider@XXXXXX; Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Re: moto polo > > despite the afterthought of a disclaimer ..... I MUST ask why it's > assumed the > pillion is a HER ;D ............. my first pillion after all was a MAN > heh heh > > Marcy > > In a message dated 3/13/98 2:29:11 PM, mrider@XXXXXX wrote: > > < operate > the stick and the rider put her in position to use it. (This is of > course a co-ed sport) It would also work to have her operate the bike > and he would stick.>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 16:11:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08762; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13460; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:11:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13531; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id QAA00993; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:11:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma000986; Fri, 13 Mar 98 16:11:19 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:11:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: AMA Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:11:45 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Todd Peer writes: "They tried to convince everyone that Pot is medicinal, and has desirable textile qualities. A ruse for the potsmoker agenda." Hardly. I know of one MD who used pot to deal with the naseau caused by chemotherapy before his death. It probably hasn't been scientifically studied nearly enough, but there's lots of anecdotal evidence that there are medicinal uses for marijuana. If our nation was able to deal with drugs in a vaguely rational way this is something we'd be investigating further and finding a way to take advantage of. --John Whiteside. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 16:47:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09485; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:47:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13850; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:46:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA15083; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-190.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.190]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA00192 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:52:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3509A919.D46F9DA5@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:46:01 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: moto polo References: <6f889f8b.35099289@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marcy, That's an easy question - - when I play, I want to ride, therefore she'll have to sit on the back. I would guess that were you to play, you would also ride. Dale is the only one who wants to use the stick, works out nice that he's already got someone to ferry him between shots. Leon. Jinn Sinn wrote: > despite the afterthought of a disclaimer ..... I MUST ask why it's assumed the > pillion is a HER ;D ............. my first pillion after all was a MAN heh heh > > Marcy > > In a message dated 3/13/98 2:29:11 PM, mrider@XXXXXX wrote: > > < the stick and the rider put her in position to use it. (This is of > course a co-ed sport) It would also work to have her operate the bike > and he would stick.>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 17:16:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10055; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA14076; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:16:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA16016; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id RAA26719; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA17710; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:15:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313221524.ZRDQ27160@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:15:24 -0600 Message-ID: <3509AFFC.CAEBB6B7@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:15:24 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leon Begeman CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: moto polo References: <6f889f8b.35099289@aol.com> <3509A919.D46F9DA5@illuminet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And I can easily see over her helmet, too! :-) Horkster Leon Begeman wrote: > > Marcy, > That's an easy question - - when I play, I want to ride, therefore she'll have to > sit on the back. I would guess that were you to play, you would also ride. Dale > is the only one who wants to use the stick, works out nice that he's already got > someone to ferry him between shots. > Leon. > > Jinn Sinn wrote: > > > despite the afterthought of a disclaimer ..... I MUST ask why it's assumed the > > pillion is a HER ;D ............. my first pillion after all was a MAN heh heh > > > > Marcy > > > > In a message dated 3/13/98 2:29:11 PM, mrider@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > < > the stick and the rider put her in position to use it. (This is of > > course a co-ed sport) It would also work to have her operate the bike > > and he would stick.>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 18:58:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11775; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:58:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA14946; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19097; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:57:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from krosenba.erols.com (207-172-75-212.s21.as12.man.erols.com [207.172.75.212]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA16052 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:57:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980313185204.007caa50@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: krosenba@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:52:04 -0500 To: DC-cycles From: Karl Rosenbaum Subject: Daytona and beyond Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi All, Not much of a writer on this list, but I read all the time. But I thought that I would post a little note about my last trip. I headed out on the 28'th of February and decided to try and get one of the Iron Butt 1000 in 1 done it I could. So I took off at 6AM and made it West Memphis Arkansas in about 17 hours, well within the time limit. So the first part of the trip was starting out well. My butt was killing me, but I was so tired it did not really matter. Day two - my riding partner and I awoke to find snow on the bikes, about a 1 1/2 on the ground. So we gingerly took off to get something to eat and to see if the sun would melt some of the snow. After eating it was just wet so we continued on to Hot Springs, Arkansas. I am also participating in the Iron Butt 25/50 National Park stamp contest. This is simply seeing at least 50 national parks in 25 states or more in a year or less. Well I had cleaned out the eastern seaboard in the last 10 months and needed to go way west to get the additional 5 states. So back to the story ... we hit Hot Springs and it was about 70 degrees without a cloud in the sky. We visited the park and rode around the city. Needless to say there were signs all over the place like " see where President Clinton worked as a chid" or "see where President Clinton lived as a child" but the best one (or worst) was "see president Clinton's mother's cemetery". A lot of people capitalizing on the name. We decided to slab it to the next location which was in Jasper TX. The wind in Arkansas and Texas had the 2 bikes close to a 45 degree angle almost all afternoon on the slab. We pulled off the highway and continued on south on RT 59 in Texas. We finally pulled into the motel in Jasper at 8pm. No snow or rain when we got up so we headed to Big Thicket National Preserve. With another stamp in the book we were off to Louisiana. In Lafayette another park was had ... drive into Mississippi. There we stopped at the Gulf Islands National Seashore. We had reservations for the night, but were so impressed with the place we pitched our tents instead. I was just surprised at the cost: $15 a night for tent camping. RV's were only 3 dollars more! The rest of the drive to Daytona was uneventful except for passing all the cars/trucks with Harley's on trailers. I lost count after 100. We stopped in Penescola to see a friend and then we were off to Bulow campground. This is a great campground that is about 20 minutes from downtown Daytona. It is difficult to describe Daytona ... a lot of stuff going on. We went up and down main street twice and saw wall to wall bikes. Never have I seen that many bikes! Went to the track on Friday to see some time trials and the like for the big ride on Sunday. Since the weather forecast looked like crap we left at 4 am on Saturday and managed to stay out of the rain for about 4 hours, but that was about it. We managed to arrive back safe and sound in the area without any problems. 16 hours in the rain and I was completely dry wearing my First Gear Kilimanjaro Jacket and Expedition II pants. The gloves are another matter. Thank God for heated grips. Trip numbers: Total miles: 4124 Ava. per day: 632 cost for fuel: $125 MPG: 44.4 PS --> some you I met at the Polar Bear run. I traded in Granpa ('88 BMW K100LT) and recently got a '94 K1100LT. Great bike. Hopefully I can make it out to Middleburg on Sunday to meet up with you all. Karl Rosenbaum 94 BMW K1100 LT-A Woodbridge, VA http://www.erols.com/krosenba From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 19:44:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12160; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:44:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA15977; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA19946; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:43:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.76.75]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA18589; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:43:15 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "DC-cycles" , "Karl Rosenbaum" Subject: Re: Daytona and beyond Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:39:32 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4ee1$a848e6c0$4b4c440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Karl wrote: The wind in Arkansas and Texas had the 2 bikes close to a 45 degree angle almost all afternoon on the slab. Karl-- Well, that helps even out the tire wear caused by all that straight-line riding. Just gotta hope the wind holds up for the return trip. ;-) later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 20:09:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA12578; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA16312; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:08:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA20686; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from krosenba.erols.com (207-172-75-212.s21.as12.man.erols.com [207.172.75.212]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA12564; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:08:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980313200303.007d0a00@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: krosenba@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:03:03 -0500 To: "kevin thomas" , "DC-cycles" From: Karl Rosenbaum Subject: Re: Daytona and beyond In-Reply-To: <01bd4ee1$a848e6c0$4b4c440c@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:39 PM 03/13/1998 -0500, kevin thomas wrote: >Well, that helps even out the tire wear caused by all that straight-line >riding. Just gotta hope the wind holds up for the return trip. ;-) No wind coming from the other side on the return. Just rain, lots of it. 2 days of it. Was wondering if it would stop ... well it didn't before I did. Still raining when I got into the house. Surprisingly I did only about half of the trip on the slab. We found some roads that we quite fast and twisty. I had having to replace tires, when the sides still look great! Karl Rosenbaum 94 BMW K1100 LT-A Woodbridge, VA http://www.erols.com/krosenba From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 23:04:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA14585; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:04:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA18031; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:04:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA24102; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:04:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id XAA15698; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:12:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:12:00 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: Tom Zell cc: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'JOE NAGY'" , "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Any reason not to leave a suit at work? Alternatively, find a place that cares more for what you do than what you look like. 8^) --garcia "Damp weather is very hard on the sciences." On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Tom Zell wrote: > I would ride my VFR to work everyday(so long as it's not raining) but > because of the "dress code" we have here at the office I can't. I don't > like to carry a suit and tie w/all the trimmings in a bag anyway... > kinda defeats the purpose of looking professional when everything is > wrinkled beyond use. > > When I worked for a firm out in Loudon(with a less stringent dress code) > I rode my CB750F all the time. Most of us there had bikes and we rode > them to work just about everyday. > > -Tom > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 11:13 AM > >To: JOE NAGY > >Cc: DC Cycles List > >Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply > > > >I think there are far more recreational bikers (no offense > >to anyone) in the DC area than there are hard-core commute > >to work and ride all weekend type bikers. With some folks > >it's the suit and tie requirements of their job, with others, > >well...? > > > >I personally used to hate the hot weather down here, when I > >moved down from Pennsylvania in 1992. Then my wife got me > >hooked (yeah, it's her fault) on motorcycles, and I suddenly > >realized that I had near year-round riding weather right > >here (at least by my definition). Even 90+ degrees is > >tolerable when you are moving fast enough! :-) > > > >I've ridden to work every day this week except Monday (some > >morning rain scared me off, then it got beatiful and warm, > >and I was kicking myself - I did take a nice ride Monday evening), > >and yes, I don't see too many other bikers this time of year > >(although I waved at two this morning, go figure). They start to come > >out of the wood-work when things warm up, but then that's still > >mainly on weekends. > > > >So Joe, I guess I do appreciate the roads and weather down here, > >but our crowd is still kinda small. Gotta go recruit some more... > > > >Anyway! Cheers, and ride safe! > > > >Dale (the Horkster) > > > >1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD > >1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > > > > > > > >JOE NAGY wrote: > >> > >> Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I > >> moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see not > >> one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more surprised > >> to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? > >> > >> I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great > >> roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the frozen > >> prairie would do it. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 23:58:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA14920; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:58:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA18580; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:58:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA24633; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:58:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA06111; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:45:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:45:45 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: "Collin T. Fagan" cc: DC-Cycles list Subject: Re: gixer gone for due to racing In-Reply-To: <350988DC.21AC68D6@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Collin T. Fagan wrote: > I guess I should have clarified...I'm getting rid of the 93 so it can be > replaced with a 97 model that will be for the racetrack only... Although I'm > not going to be ready for the first race date of April 11, I'm hoping I'll > still be able to pit with Brian McCoy (unless I've irked him off by not > calling lately) > CT Not at all.. heck, because of a tighness in the $$$ belt, I had to drop my start date to back into June... sucks to be poor. Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 01:13:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA16156; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:13:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA20166; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA25362; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:13:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id BAA29185; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:20:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:20:56 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: Tom Zell , "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Garcia Oliver wrote: > Alternatively, find a place that cares more for what you do than what you > look like. 8^) > Sorry; not "you" personally, but you "someone". And I neglected to do major snip of recaps. Mea culpa. --garcia "It takes less time to do something right than it does to explain why you did it wrong." Henry Longfellow. As I've just demonstrated. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 01:21:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA16202; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:21:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA21043; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA25453; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id BAA29831; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:29:17 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:29:17 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: dc-cycle cc: suzuki-l@XXXXXX Subject: clutch plates and springs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A friend would like your recommendations in choosing between Vesrah ($50) and Factory ($110) kits (or alternatives) for a 87 CBR 600. I'll send replies on to him. Thanks. --garcia "She held out her hand. The young man took it and left." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 03:25:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA17151; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:25:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA25276; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:25:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA00958; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:25:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id DAA19016; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:17:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:17:16 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: Garcia Oliver cc: dc-cycle , suzuki-l@XXXXXX Subject: Re: clutch plates and springs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've replaced several clutches in several bikes.. and I feel the ones that hold up best are OEM parts. This is especially true on Hondas. I tried the cheap Vesrah on a CB1100f - they died in under 10k miles. And I had Barnett plates in the VF500 - they were new at 14k and replaced at 26k - the Honda plates still look good now on my 500 (31K). It is more expensive, but IMHO, worth the cost. On Sat, 14 Mar 1998, Garcia Oliver wrote: > A friend would like your recommendations in choosing between Vesrah ($50) > and Factory ($110) kits (or alternatives) for a 87 CBR 600. > > I'll send replies on to him. > > Thanks. > > --garcia > > "She held out her hand. The young man took it and left." > Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 07:15:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA18093; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA27403; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:15:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA06215; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:15:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-37-46.s46.tnt7.ann.erols.com [207.172.37.46]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07222; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:15:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350A7555.2F3789FA@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:17:25 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gil M. Nissley" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Dunlop D 204 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gil M. Nissley wrote: > BTW Collin,Don...were you guys using street or GP compound(just > curious)? Gill, Most of the sets I've run are the street compound. I borrowed a rear GP compound for a test ride once (about 400 miles worth). The GP compound sticks a little (very little) better than the street compound, but its slides are less predictable. The street compounds slide out nice and smooth..fairly easy to control, even when your pushing the front. The GP would lurch a bit.. slip, grip, slip, etc. For street riding that's pretty scary and leaves you thinking of high sides a lot. I did take them out to my top secret semi-tracklike testing facility and they behaved better, but that's because I could get them really hot and was pushing them hard... When I was done, they really showed the heat cycling an noticable wear on the outside edges. They never performed like the Azarros at any point. Supposedly the new D207 in street compound is supposed to last fairly well and ride pretty good, but I haven't tried them nor will I be soon. Jay, Knowing that the fizzer takes a bit skinnier tires, you might want to ask Brian McCoy what sizes the Avon SuperVenoms come in. He's had great luck with them on his (ex) VF500. And they are very popular vintage racer tires, especially in Europe, so they can't be all that bad. Collin -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 07:27:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA18115; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:27:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA27920; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA06347; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:26:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-37-46.s46.tnt7.ann.erols.com [207.172.37.46]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08991; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:26:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350A77D4.AC8EA77B@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:28:04 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Evans CC: jaynik@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Avon Azaros falling apart References: <19980310153327120.AAC127@balingwire> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit THat's interesting to hear..Is it possible that the tire was already too worn by the time he put it on the dyno?? I ran a D204 down to nothingness once and tried one last ride on them. As soon as we hit some nice twisties, I began throwing rubber rooster tails. I've had two sets of Azarros. I ran a dyno run on the first set.. My 525 lb GSXR puts out just over 105hp (had a nasty dirty air filter for the dyno run..so it's probably a tad higher than that) with no problems on the tires. When I venture out to the back woods and mountains (US211 and US33) I often run above 10k rpm (only place gixers like to run) and I often top triple digit speeds. I also went out to MIR's dragstrip with a friend one day last summer and another guy was running them on his GSXR1100 drag bike. He had run through 3 sets of them and only had good things to say. Another guy in the office has em on a Triumph Daytona 900, and since he rides much milder than I do, his tires look like brand new after nearly 5k miles!! I'll definitely keep in this info in mind though... I didn't see Pat post anything about this on the race list, so if any updates are posted on the other lists, could you forward them this way? I was actually considering racing on the Azarros this year, but I may switch to their other race tire (although I'll be starting out on D207 GPs) Collin Andrew Evans wrote: > > This is the post that people have been referring to when they say that > Azaros fly apart. Thought you DC and Baltimore folks might be > interested. Reply to me directly if you want -- I'm not on either of > these lists. > > ------------------------- > > Date sent: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 13:45:11 -0800 > From: Patrick Burns > Organization: Factory Pro Tuning > To: "exup-brotherhood@XXXXXX" > > Subject: EXUP Avon Azaros (grumble, grumble) > Send reply to: Patrick Burns > > This is the _third_ Avon Azaro that chunked on our dyno. Was > running a ZX9, keeping the surface temp under 150 degrees F > (monitored with an infrared thermometer), had it inflated to > 45psi to reduce carcass flex and head buildup in accordance > with an Avon tech's suggestions, and it still blew chunks > all over the room on the 11k rpm step test... while the > owner watched. Thankfully, the tires were already toast and > he was planning on mounting a new set of 207 street tires > after we finished up with the jetting, so he got a kick out > of it instead of getting upset. They might be neat tires to > ride on, but I sure wouldn't mount a set on a big hp bike > that was going to be running lots of mph. > > -- > Patrick Burns > Factory Pro Tuning > patburns@XXXXXX > http://www.factorypro.com > > -- > Andrew Evans -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 08:19:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA18251; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 08:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA29324; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 08:19:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA07311; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 08:19:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27969 invoked by alias); 14 Mar 1998 13:16:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 29814 invoked from network); 13 Mar 1998 21:51:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jywon.imi?dc) (12.3.130.190) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 1998 21:51:22 -0000 Message-ID: <004801bd4eca$23926940$be82030c@jywon.imi_dc> Reply-To: "Justin Won" From: "Justin Won" To: Subject: Re: Re: moto polo Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:50:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Couldn't agree with you more! ;-) Justin -----Original Message----- From: O'Brien, Jeannette To: 'Jinn Sinn' ; mrider@XXXXXX ; Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Friday, March 13, 1998 3:06 PM Subject: RE: Re: moto polo >I personally think the guy should always be operating the stick. > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 3:10 PM >> To: mrider@XXXXXX; Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX >> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: Re: Re: moto polo >> >> despite the afterthought of a disclaimer ..... I MUST ask why it's >> assumed the >> pillion is a HER ;D ............. my first pillion after all was a MAN >> heh heh >> >> Marcy >> >> In a message dated 3/13/98 2:29:11 PM, mrider@XXXXXX wrote: >> >> <> operate >> the stick and the rider put her in position to use it. (This is of >> course a co-ed sport) It would also work to have her operate the bike >> and he would stick.>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 12:59:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA21088; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02757; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:59:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA13231; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-218-202.pitb.grid.net [207.205.218.202]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA00755 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:59:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980314130059.006a4844@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:00:59 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" FYI from the R1100 list - >Subject: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW >Reply-To: bmw-r1100@XXXXXX >Errors-To: owner-bmw-r1100@XXXXXX >To: bmw-r1100@XXXXXX >Sender: bmw-r1100-request@XXXXXX >X-Loop: bmw-r1100@XXXXXX > >I was at Bob's BMW today and learned that BMW has a $1,500 rebate on the >F650's through the end of March. This, I was told, brings the price of the >bike down to $6,000. > >Almost makes me want to buy another bike. > > >Jon Ayscue >Baltimore > > >-- >Please send administrivia to the majordomo@XXXXXX program. >If you need to reach a human, bandy@XXXXXX is the >contact point for bmw-r1100. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 13:09:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21278; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02843; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:09:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA13491; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:09:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1YURa06379 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:08:53 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE Message-ID: <7cd3e0d3.350ac7b7@aol.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:08:53 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: not again Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 Hello all, We need a roommate - again. Two months ago, no one from this list was interested, but maybe this time... We just asked our roommate to leave. Apparently he figured that the "no smoking" rule doesn't apply to pot. We don't have a problem with occasional and discreet use by employed individuals, however this guy starts smoking when he wakes up (at noon) and continues all day. He told us he was employed, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Hm, I wonder where his rent money comes from?? Anyway, we have a room in Silver Spring available for $400/month + a third of the utilities. There is room in our garage for one more bike, but not for two. The basics: downtown Silver Spring, near Metro, near the grocery, near the discount mall (whoopie) etc. It's an older house and has hardwood floors, a fireplace, washer/dryer, basement storage space. The available bedroom is downstairs. The other downstairs bedroom is my office. There is a bathroom downstaris and one upstairs. The downstairs one isn't the main bathroom for anyone except the renter of the room. What you'd have to put up with: me: I am home a lot during the day since I work here, but I'm quiet. Lex: Mr Tolerant (he let the pot smoker move in and gave him a lot more chances than I would have). Lex works at Bob's BMW, listens to jazz most of the time, and has two kids, who are here part of the time. He plays drums, but rarely when people are home. the kids: Two boys ages 9 and 12. They are here about 10 days out of the month. They like motorcycles, airplanes, sports and video games. The little guy plays drums too, but he asks permission to make noise first. The older one is prone to starting complicated art projects and forgetting to clean up afterwards... What we don't want to have to endure: Smoking! If you are on-line at home, or regularly get late night phone calls, we would prefer that you get your own phone number. There is an unused line coming to the house. a minor perk: if you move in, you can buy your motorcycle stuff wholesale. I can order most anything except oem parts. If anyone is interested, e-mail me, or call Lex at work. His number there is 301/924-5155 x 219. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 14:19:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA21970; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:19:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03287; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:19:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14687; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA02893; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:18:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv7-06.ix.netcom.com(205.184.22.134) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma002878; Sat Mar 14 13:18:24 1998 Message-ID: <350A885E.33C5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 05:38:38 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW References: <3.0.1.32.19980314130059.006a4844@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. wrote: > > FYI from the R1100 list - > > >Subject: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW Can someone advise of any and/or all the BMW dealers in the Northern Va,DC metro area. I dont know of any in the Winch Va to Chambersburg PA area, and would not mind taking a look at one at a more reasonable price. -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 14:41:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA22255; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03377; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:41:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14889; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-218-202.pitb.grid.net [207.205.218.202]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA13722; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:41:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980314144303.006a7de8@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:43:03 -0500 To: shephar1@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <350A885E.33C5@ix.netcom.com> References: <3.0.1.32.19980314130059.006a4844@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ken, BMW motorcycles has a retailer locater on their website: http://www.bmwusacycles.com/retailers/retailers.html Of course, many of us in this area are partial to Bob's BMW in Jessup, MD, http://www.bmwbobs.com . Of course, that may be a bit out of the way for you. Harry At 05:38 AM 3/14/98 -0800, Ken S. wrote: > >Can someone advise of any and/or all the BMW dealers in the Northern >Va,DC metro area. I dont know of any in the Winch Va to Chambersburg PA >area, and would not mind taking a look at one at a more reasonable >price. > >-- > Ken S. > 1996 XLH1200 > Inwood, WV > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 14:58:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA22404; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:58:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03454; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA15190; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:58:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA05295; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:57:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv7-14.ix.netcom.com(205.184.22.142) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma005287; Sat Mar 14 13:57:44 1998 Message-ID: <350A91A0.2EC3@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 06:18:08 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW References: <3.0.1.32.19980314130059.006a4844@pop.mindspring.com> <3.0.1.32.19980314144303.006a7de8@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. wrote: > > Ken, > BMW motorcycles has a retailer locater on their website: > http://www.bmwusacycles.com/retailers/retailers.html Thanx for the info, I had tried the BMW cycles site earlier, the dealer locator page is down, all I get is an error message. no rush though, its still early in the spring. Was going to go to the MARRC cornerworkers school today, but the wife and child ar ill so am playing househusband . hehe, At least I hope to get a ride in tomorrow at Middleburg. Take care and thanx... the BMW gets added to my list of $6000.00 or so bikes to supplement the Sportster...;) -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 15:58:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22985; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03637; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA16245; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:57:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from krosenba.erols.com (207-172-73-106.s43.as2.man.erols.com [207.172.73.106]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA26733; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:57:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980314155115.007d1b70@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: krosenba@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:51:15 -0500 To: shephar1@XXXXXX, "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." From: Karl Rosenbaum Subject: Re: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <350A885E.33C5@ix.netcom.com> References: <3.0.1.32.19980314130059.006a4844@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:38 AM 03/14/1998 -0800, Ken S. wrote: >> >Subject: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW > >Can someone advise of any and/or all the BMW dealers in the Northern >Va,DC metro area. I dont know of any in the Winch Va to Chambersburg PA >area, and would not mind taking a look at one at a more reasonable >price. Morton's BMW - Spotsylvania, VA exit 126 off of '95 (540) 891-9844 http://www.mortonsbmw.com/ Bob's BMW - Jessup, MD Not sure of the exact location (just know where it is) (301) 497-8949 http://www.bmwbobs.com/ Battley Cycles - Rockville, MD Shady Grove Exit off of I-270 Hammersly's BMW- Lynchburg, VA Hmmm -been there twice - can't remember 1 800 293-4539 http://www.webparts.com/cycles/cycles.htm I personally like Morton's the best. Great People and fair deals. Would rather drive the distance to their shop. Karl Rosenbaum 94 BMW K1100 LT-A Woodbridge, VA http://www.erols.com/krosenba From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 17:53:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA24154; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:53:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA04442; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:52:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA18121; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:52:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id PZSVa09367; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:51:18 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:51:18 EST To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Cc: mrider@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: moto polo Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 I must graciously concede defeat ;D Marcy In a message dated 98-03-13 15:35:35 EST, Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX writes: << Better hand-eye coordination? Hah! Gotcha there! No chauvinists in this crowd! >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 17:57:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA24211; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA04465; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA18177; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1HOAa01472 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:56:26 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <5d5f8d17.350b0b1c@aol.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:56:26 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Daytona and beyond Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 In a message dated 98-03-13 19:08:13 EST, krosenba@XXXXXX writes: << the best one (or worst) was "see president Clinton's mother's cemetery". A lot of people capitalizing on the name. We decided to slab it to the next location >> NO PUN INTENDED I"M SURE ;D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 18:05:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA24299; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:05:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA04571; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA18273; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:05:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id FVWGa11851; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:03:49 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:03:49 EST To: cb-1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Starting Troubles Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 here's the deal .... I bought the CB-1, the guy I bought it from said it's a little finicky in the cold (fine) ..... however, the battery wouldn't stay charged no matter what so I bought a new one ..... worked great until this recent cold snap at which point my brand new battery dies and had to be resusitated via jump cables and a 45 minute ride to recharge ..... works fine again. engineer friend looked at it, said, "a brand new battery should start fine even in the cold, you should have someone look at it to make sure the alternator is charging the battery, and to make sure the electrical system isn't "leaking" when the bikes turned off" biker friend says," it's a bike. it has trouble in the cold. get a battery tender" any thoughts on who might be correct? Thanks Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 19:44:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA26284; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:44:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA05224; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA19744; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-37-46.s46.tnt7.ann.erols.com [207.172.37.46]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15924; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:43:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350B24BC.65B37F05@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:45:48 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jinn Sinn CC: cb-1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Starting Troubles References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marcy, >From a biker and an engineer :) If it's a new properly charged battery, you shouldn't be having these problems unless the bike has super high compression... and a duc 916 it ain't he he Find someone that has a hanes or clymer for the bike and check the output to the battery and the output from the alternator.. it's a quick easy check and will give you an idea of what's going on. I've got a multimeter if ya need one to check it with. Collin (bummin.. can't go out to dinner and 1720 tonight since all babysitter options crapped out) Jinn Sinn wrote: > engineer friend looked at it, said, "a brand new battery should start fine > even in the cold, you should have someone look at it to make sure the > alternator is charging the battery, and to make sure the electrical system > isn't "leaking" when the bikes turned off" > > biker friend says," it's a bike. it has trouble in the cold. get a battery > tender" -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 20:04:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA26471; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 20:04:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA05340; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 20:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA19977; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 20:04:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hp-customer (207-172-112-75.s75.tnt4.ann.erols.com [207.172.112.75