From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 1 00:29:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA18285; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:29:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12368; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA03337; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:28:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA24608; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:24:36 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 00:19:51 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Sender: "Gil M. Nissley" Reply-To: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: other helmet deals To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <01bd4483$1c73d640$ab4b440c@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Sat, 28 Feb 1998, kevin thomas wrote: > Of course, the reason the RF700 is so cheap is 'cause it's discontinued, and > has been for a while. They're just about gone from the dealers. > The Shoei X8 is also discontinued. Cycle Accessory Discounters in > Gaithersburg has them for $195. That's an older helmet design than the > RF700, so I don't know if the X8 is much better, but it used to be the top > of the line, whereas the RF was mid-line. I saw the new models at Battley's the first day they got them in(I was there getting the Buell worked on :-P).About the only differences I could see were slightly different padding and a slight change to the vents. Personally,if I were looking for a new lid,I'd save the money and try to find a leftover RF7 or X8. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 1 01:32:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA18681; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA12608; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA04032; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-7.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.48]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA10786 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:32:20 -0500 Message-ID: <036c01bd44dc$014a91c0$3010b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Virtuality creeps on Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 01:33:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 As the real world fades -- (from the Post's Dr. Gridlock) "In England, a man ran a red light, and a police camera took a picture of his car in the intersection. The police sent the man a citation, along with the picture of his car. The man wrote out a check, took a picture of it and sent the photograph of the check to police. The police, not without humor, sent back a photograph of a pair of handcuffs. The man paid the fine promptly." With a cc number? Bill Swanson / DC EN500 LTD Join the AMA. Join the AMA. Join the AMA. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 1 10:44:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21282; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15053; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08451; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:44:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15595 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:44:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29078 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:44:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803011544.KAA29078@shell.clark.net> Subject: Saturday ride report To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 10:44:15 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, Saturday morning four of us woke up, looked at the overcast skies, listened to the conflicting weather reports, then decided to look mother nature in the face and say "HA!" (Except for about one minute of sprinkles, there was no rain all day) The three hardy riders who put their faith in me to lead them were: Tom Mersch Don Wu Sean (sorry, forgot your last name) We met in Oxon Hill at about 10:30 and left 11:00 sharp. The first set of roads went fine, but then after turning on Bryan's Point Road, I learned that the road I planned on turning onto was a private and dirt road. Oh well, U-turn and figure out another way to get there. After that we stopped for gas, and Sean needed a new bolt for his licence plate. The previous roads were bumpy and he lost one. Good thing he had it replaced then, cuz the next road was VERY bumpy. When we turned on 224, I had the guys spread out, cuz I wanted them to have their space. Don and Sean wound up bunched together, but I managed to hang back and enjoy. We met at the end of the road and swap bench racing stories about the road we just finished. (100 mph? Nah, get outta here!) But we all did agree it was a great road to ride. After that we rode into La Plata for some Bar-b-que. I asked the folks if they wanted to continue on a bit, or head back. They were all in a good mood, so we continued on. We went pass Budd's Creek. I resisted the tempation to turn in and run a couple of laps around the track. I watched as the guys all refueled. I love the 7.5 gal tank on the Concours!! We then ran a loop around and back to La Plata. >From there we decided to take 301 North, through Waldorf (the only traffic we really hit), then split up onto Rt 5, 495, and other parts. The ride was about 150 miles by the end. Hope the other three enjoyed it as much as I did. Louis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Caplan | DoD #1754 AMA #269779 | www.clark.net/pub/louis/cycle.htm Alexandria, VA | COG #2894 | Entrant #19, Capitol 1000 louis@XXXXXX | '98 Kawasaki Concours | Mean Green Scream Machine From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 1 13:10:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA22528; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:10:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA16079; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:09:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10136; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA27096 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 12:09:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv7-17.ix.netcom.com(205.184.22.145) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma027080; Sun Mar 1 12:08:53 1998 Message-ID: <34F9B39C.16C1@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 11:14:36 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Some oipinions on Bikes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If there are any list members who have, or have had, either of the following bikes, I would be interested in hearing about your experiences with them. any problems good/bad points etc. Also in particular, any problems/costs after the unfortunate but usually inevitable tip-overs. The first is a 1996 Honda CBR1000 leftover, the other is a Honda PC800. found both for a good price, and am planning on adding to my stable this summer. (I have a promotion coming, so I figure the pay raise will make up the payments.) I had thought about a Buell S3T or a new Duc ST2 but the money for that much isnt going to be there. On the other hand these two, and a couple others , like the Honda VTR 1000 are in the ballpark. I have talked before about the Buell M2 Cyclone, the other interesting bikes I have looked at were the Honda CBR600 and a Ninja ZX6( not the 6R). But the deals on the others seem a lot better, especially for a bike that will spend a llot of time droning down the Dulles Greenway at 75-80 ;) Had a great day riding Friday, first day off in a while that it didnt pour down all day. Only hit one short shower runnning up to PA, and western MD stopping at the various bike shops. Looks like there are still some deals to be made. I did not realize that some of the manufacturers were still having trouble moving leftovers. I like that ;). means theres hope for me yet. I just sold my spare bike to Dale, and now Im back into the have to get a second bike mode. Thank god theres no rush though. Sporty has been a model of reliability and good gads mileage to boot so far. Well thanx for the indulgence. Ride Safe. -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 1 15:50:48 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA24686; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:50:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA17477; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:50:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12762; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA19555 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 1998 14:49:53 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803012049.OAA19555@dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com> Received: from wbg-va1-14.ix.netcom.com(205.184.195.46) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma019549; Sun Mar 1 14:49:33 1998 Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 15:53:01 -0400 From: 12dwkaiser34@XXXXXX (David & Michele Kaiser) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [Fwd: FS: Yamaha Motocycle - VG Cond/CHEAP!] from dc.forsale.misc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.4.0 Thought this might interest somebody: > Path: ix.netcom.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.intern etmci.com!198.82.160.249!news.vt.edu!solaris.cc.vt.edu!not-for-mail > From: Raj Tirbany > Newsgroups: dc.forsale.misc > Subject: [Fwd: FS: Yamaha Motocycle - VG Cond/CHEAP!] > Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 01:47:50 -0500 > Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia > Lines: 42 > Message-ID: <34F90496.1B7650FD@XXXXXX> > Reply-To: kuma@XXXXXX > NNTP-Posting-Host: as5200-8.sl047.cns.vt.edu > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D7C98AADC019E50194C47370" > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) > Xref: ix.netcom.com dc.forsale.misc:22804 > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------D7C98AADC019E50194C47370 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > --------------D7C98AADC019E50194C47370 > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > Message-ID: <34F900A3.515CDE8@XXXXXX> > Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 01:31:00 -0500 > From: Raj Tirbany > Reply-To: kuma@XXXXXX > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Newsgroups: vatech.forsale > Subject: FS: Yamaha Motocycle - VG Cond/CHEAP! > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I have a 1983 Yamaha Virago I'm thinking about selling. Its garaged in > Richmond right now, but I'll be bringing it back to town once the > weather warms up (some time in march). Its black, has about 10k on > engine, new brakes, everything is in near perfect condition, except it > needs new tires (a pair of decent Dunlops will run about $120 this time > of > year). brand new exhaust system. It has a shaft drive which means no > chain to fuss with, turn signals. Its been well cared for and the > service on it has a lifetime guarantee by a Jim Motorcycle shop (just > outside of BBurg) . A great starter bike w/helmet. I'm asking $1900. > Please call 951-3273 if interested. Serious inquiries only. > Raj > > > > > > --------------D7C98AADC019E50194C47370-- -- -------Remove the numbers from my address to mail me-------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 10:53:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05906; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:53:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04481; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA.COM by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA00108; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Mar 1998 10:44:56 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 10:51:57 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Saturday Ride Report Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline RE: Saturday Ride Report Had a good time on Saturday's ride into southern Maryland. I was glad Louis, Don and Tom packed their rainsuits to keep the rain at bay, because I was just relying on the power of positive thinking. We had barbeque, some sun and scenic roads through the swamps off of the Potomac. Don and I ended up together on 224 after we slowed to pass locals engaged in some interesting roadside activities. We rode through a family picture where dad had the camera on the left side of the road while mom and child posed on the right. "Excuse us, good people!" Thanks for taking us, Louis! Sean Sullivan 95 F3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ride was about 150 miles by the end. Hope the other three enjoyed it as much as I did. Louis <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 13:38:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA08962; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:38:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09855; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:36:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA06418; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.77.68]) by mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA21452 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:36:11 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Perry D Coleman? Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:32:49 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4609$9a2e0880$444d440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Perry-- Please contact me. Thanks Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 16:33:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA11893; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:33:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13260; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:32:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13425; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22418 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:32:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14933 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:32:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803022132.QAA14933@shell.clark.net> Subject: Map of Blue Ridge Parkway To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:32:10 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm toying with the idea of riding the Blue Ridge Parkway from Skyline drive, all the way down to the end for a vacation this summer. I remember that there was some company that offered a map especially geared to motorcyclists for going down. Of course now that I'm looking for it, I can't find mention of it it anywhere. Does anyone know of such a map? Or any map that is good for a trip down the BRP? Thanks, Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 17:34:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA13053; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:34:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA14789; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:34:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA15817; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:34:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id RAA06185 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:33:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA24098 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:33:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980302223331.UBCU27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:33:31 -0600 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 17:30 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: Something Fun to think about.... X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980302223331.UBCU27160@[166.41.242.141]> ....on another dreary Monday. Damn El Nino! Ride to Deals Gap, TN! Let's plan on this ride for Memorial Day weekend. Memorial Day is observed on May 25th, which gives us a 3-day weekend to goof around on some very fine roads! I was thinking we could ride as a group as far south as possible on Thursday afternoon with a destination to Waynesboro, VA or further, where we could camp for the evening. Waynesboro is where the Blue Ridge Parkway (BRP) and the Skyline Drive meet. According to Map-n-Go 3.0, the quickest route to Waynesboro is 133 miles (out of Pentagon City) and 2:42 hours. With stops and setting up camp, expect 4 hours total. This would be a great starting point to get to TN by Friday evening. Some information: The BRP is 470 miles long at 45mph. That's 10.44 hours of riding W/O stopping. And your still not at Deals Gap yet. That's another 55 miles. Some options: Since the lower half of the BRP should NOT be rushed (especially if you've never done it) we should expect some serious delay in the above calculation for time. So, why not just ride as far south as Linville Falls, NC (right at the famous route 181, the namesake of Draggin Jeans). That cuts back to a 7.17 for a total of 323 miles. Again with stops for gas and lunch and scenic overlooks expect Friday to last about 12-15 hours on the road. From Linville Falls, it is a mere 202 miles to deals gap, via the BRP to rt28 west. But hey, since we're at 181, why not ride that sucker down and then up again. Serious willy factor here folks, and it only adds another 50-60 miles to the day. We would be in Deals Gap late afternoon on Saturday. Set up camp and pretty much have all day Sunday to explore some truly intense twisty turny roads. Finally, Ride back home Monday (an all day ride). Let's start some dialogue on this. Any thoughts? Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 17:47:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA13196; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA15003; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA16161; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:46:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id RAA11406 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA03048 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.32.84.59]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980302215251.BCSU31552@XXXXXX> for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:52:53 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:51:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD45FB.714B25A0.linda.tanner@mci.com> From: Linda Tanner To: "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Map of Blue Ridge Parkway Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:51:24 -0500 Organization: MCI Telecommunications X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a one long page map (front and back) of just the BRP that I got from AAA. It's pretty cool. Shows the camp sites and such. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze -----Original Message----- From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, March 02, 1998 4:32 PM To: DC-Cycles List Subject: Map of Blue Ridge Parkway I'm toying with the idea of riding the Blue Ridge Parkway from Skyline drive, all the way down to the end for a vacation this summer. I remember that there was some company that offered a map especially geared to motorcyclists for going down. Of course now that I'm looking for it, I can't find mention of it it anywhere. Does anyone know of such a map? Or any map that is good for a trip down the BRP? Thanks, Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 18:26:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA13662; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:26:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA15359; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA.COM by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA17150; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:18:28 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:25:32 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Something Fun to Think About Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Re: Something Fun to Think About Road trip! A ride to Deals Gap sounds like the perfect way to spend a Memorial Day weekend. I'll bring the marshmallows. You have patched up relations with law enforcement between here and Tennessee, haven't you Todd? Sean 95 F3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start some dialogue on this. Any thoughts? Todd <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 18:52:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA13933; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:52:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA15572; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:51:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA17897; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from my-workstation (client196-127-113.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.113]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id SAA09298; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:50:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980302184816.0098acb0@wingate> X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:48:16 -0500 To: Todd Peer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... In-Reply-To: <19980302223331.UBCU27160@[166.41.242.141]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey Todd and DC folks, I'm not officially joining the ride, but my local riding buddies and I take this trip (BRP, not Deal's) each year, and we're going Fri-Tues over Mem. Day weekend this year. I believe our plans are to head for the Dragon this time. Our usual first day, and we often don't get going real early (doh!) is to head as far south as Roanoke. Usually we meet some friends there who ride up from Atlanta, as a sort-of midpoint. It's very reachable even if you get a late start (heck, we've got an extra 40 miles from here), and you'll save yourself roughly 90 miles getting going the next day. Food and lodging is plentiful in the area, whether you choose to hit civilization or skirt around the fringes. Just some helpful thoughts. There's a pretty good chance we'll all run into each other anyway... MET At 05:30 PM 3/2/98 -0500, you wrote: >....on another dreary Monday. Damn El Nino! > >Ride to Deals Gap, TN! > >Let's plan on this ride for Memorial Day weekend. Memorial Day is >observed on May 25th, which gives us a 3-day weekend to goof around >on some very fine roads! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 19:57:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA14705; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA17175; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:56:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA19431; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:56:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-112-112.s112.tnt4.ann.erols.com [207.172.112.112]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18404 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:56:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FB5569.91CA52D9@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 19:57:13 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Map of Blue Ridge Parkway References: <01BD45FB.714B25A0.linda.tanner@mci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think Dale Coyner's book is the one your thinking of??? I'm going by memory here too, so I may not even have the correct author... The book I recall hearing mention of had several of the various routes through the mountains. Never seen it, but I heard it was a very good book. CT > I remember > that there was some company that offered a map especially geared to > motorcyclists for going down. Of course now that I'm looking for it, > I can't find mention of it it anywhere. Does anyone know of such a map? > Or any map that is good for a trip down the BRP? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 20:12:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA14990; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA18351; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA19888; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:12:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-185.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.185]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA31061 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:16:54 -0500 Message-ID: <34FB58CA.E24C4DA5@illuminet.net> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 20:11:38 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... References: <19980302223331.UBCU27160@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been discussing this with Horkster, and I'd like to do this as a SaddleSore 1000 ride. Is anyone is interested in leaving early Sunday morning, riding the slab to Deals Gap, making one (or three) passes at the Dragon, then coming home on the slab on the other side of the mountains. Since I've already done a few 1000 mile days, I'd go along as the official witness and provide extra forms for anyone who needs it. I'd like to run the Dragon 3 times through, others can run it once and nap during the second round trip. We should plan on doing this in about 20 hours. By doing this on Sunday when the rest of DC cycles is there, it allows us to meet everyone and get a much needed boost at the halfway point. Leon. Todd Peer wrote: > ....on another dreary Monday. Damn El Nino! > > Ride to Deals Gap, TN! > > Let's plan on this ride for Memorial Day weekend. Memorial Day is > observed on May 25th, which gives us a 3-day weekend to goof around > on some very fine roads! > > I was thinking we could ride as a group as far south as possible > on Thursday afternoon with a destination to Waynesboro, VA or further, > where we could camp for the evening. > > Waynesboro is where the Blue Ridge Parkway (BRP) and the Skyline Drive > meet. According to Map-n-Go 3.0, the quickest route to Waynesboro is > 133 miles (out of Pentagon City) and 2:42 hours. With stops and setting > up camp, expect 4 hours total. This would be a great starting point > to get to TN by Friday evening. > > Some information: > > The BRP is 470 miles long at 45mph. That's 10.44 hours of riding > W/O stopping. And your still not at Deals Gap yet. That's another > 55 miles. > > Some options: > > Since the lower half of the BRP should NOT be rushed (especially > if you've never done it) we should expect some serious delay in the > above calculation for time. So, why not just ride as far south as > Linville Falls, NC (right at the famous route 181, the namesake of > Draggin Jeans). That cuts back to a 7.17 for a total of 323 miles. > Again with stops for gas and lunch and scenic overlooks expect Friday > to last about 12-15 hours on the road. > > From Linville Falls, it is a mere 202 miles to deals gap, via the > BRP to rt28 west. But hey, since we're at 181, why not ride that sucker > down and then up again. Serious willy factor here folks, and it only > adds another 50-60 miles to the day. We would be in Deals Gap late > afternoon on Saturday. Set up camp and pretty much have all day Sunday > to explore some truly intense twisty turny roads. > > Finally, Ride back home Monday (an all day ride). > > Let's start some dialogue on this. Any thoughts? > > Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 20:26:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA15129; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA18664; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:26:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA20153; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:26:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA11307; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:26:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv1-02.ix.netcom.com(205.184.22.34) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma011210; Mon Mar 2 19:25:24 1998 Message-ID: <34FB4540.76EC@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 15:48:16 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" Subject: Moto Journeys through the Appalachians was Map of Blue Ridge Parkway References: <01BD45FB.714B25A0.linda.tanner@mci.com> <34FB5569.91CA52D9@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) wrote: > > I think Dale Coyner's book is the one your thinking of??? I'm going by > memory here too, so I may not even have the correct author... > The book I recall hearing mention of had several of the various routes > through the mountains. Never seen it, but I heard it was a very good > book. Hey guys, I have Dale Coyners Book, Its called 'Motorcycle Journeys Through the Appalachians' Its available through WhitehorsePress and probably elsewhere. The ISBN # is 1-884313-02-7. If you dont get the WhiteHorse press catalog, you should anyway, it makes great reading in its own right and you can get a copy or order the book from http://www.WhitehorsePress.com. Anyway the book covers routes and rides from PA through MD,VA,WV,and NC. I have used the PA,WV,VA and MD sections extensively and have enjoyed it very much. Has made for some great reading over this El-Nino winter also. Anyway Ride safe. -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 2 20:28:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA15162; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA18678; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:28:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA20192; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com ([209.49.109.130]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA17481; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:28:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980302202919.0069fb2c@pop.mindspring.com> Received: from [172.16.4.56] by firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com via smtpd (for ftp.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) with SMTP; 3 Mar 1998 01:27:46 UT X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 20:29:19 -0500 To: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: Map of Blue Ridge Parkway Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <34FB5569.91CA52D9@geocities.com> References: <01BD45FB.714B25A0.linda.tanner@mci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:57 PM 3/2/98 -0500, Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) wrote: >I think Dale Coyner's book is the one your thinking of??? Never seen it, but I heard it was a very good >book. >CT > I have a link to Dale's book and website, which cover the Appalachians, as well as a link to the National Park Service's BRP website. AAA has a map of the BRP. There is another one available from Whitehorse Press (http://www.whitehorsepress.com) which is so-so. If you contact the BRP association, they send you a very good packet of stuff. I'll probably be riding the whole thing in a week or so, depending on the weather. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 00:24:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA18036; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22605; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:23:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA25120; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.49] (unverified [207.226.128.49]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 00:23:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something Fun to Think About Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 00:23:53 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Sean Sullivan" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > A ride to Deals Gap sounds like the perfect way to spend a Memorial Day >weekend. I'll >bring the marshmallows. You have patched up relations with law enforcement >between >here and Tennessee, haven't you Todd? Nah, it's the redneck cops in NC that you gotta look out for:) -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 00:24:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA18035; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22609; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:24:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA25128; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 00:24:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.49] (unverified [207.226.128.49]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 00:23:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 00:24:00 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Todd Peer" , "dc-cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Let's start some dialogue on this. Any thoughts? Yeah, what's the traffic like on or around Memorial Day? I think I could do it, but the GF might have a problem with that much time in the saddle:) Depending on when my sister has class this summer, I might take off for High Point Sunday night or Monday morning. How did the cruise control install go this weekend? Thinking about a Throttlemeister myself. ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 07:14:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA21017; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA25725; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA00733; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 07:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA05191 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:14:08 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:14:08 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'Todd Peer'" , "'dc-cycles'" Subject: RE: Something Fun to think about.... Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 04:15:31 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 14 TEXT I picked up Skyline Drive last September when I was going down to Radford to see my son. I was going to go down on backroads, but when I crossed over the ridge on VA211, I decided to take Skyline. Mid week, no cages, ran 10-15 over with no problems (electronic countermeasures active). Only came up on one cage, and that was in a passing zone (miracle of miracles). Nice ride, but allow extra time Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 08:03:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA21399; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA25911; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:03:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA01328; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:03:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA24326 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:05:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:05:11 -0500 (EST) From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 03/02/98 In-Reply-To: <199803030000.TAA15660@tove.cs.umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Re: Deal's gap maps, there are a couple. Someone already mentioned the AAA map, which we used last year (uh, the week after Memorial Day). AAA has lots of great maps. Make sure that you get the VA and NC (and TN) maps also, I'll explain why later. Whitehorse press has a motorcycling the Blue Ridge map which mostly covers western NC, eastern TN. Will help you find Deal's Gap, motorcycle campgrounds, and includes LOTS of great southern NC roads. It is very nice and costs only 4 or 5 dollars. Crossroads of Time, the store/hotel/MC Campground on the NC end of Deal's Gap, has a packet of maps of great motorcycling roads which you can buy. If you have time, check out the Cherohala Skyway. I'll try to get my Memorial Day week to Deal's Gap pictures up with a web page this weekend. I've been lax. I'll warn you, though, it rained and rained and rained. And the fog on the BRP was thicker than peanut butter. Made for interesting pics but not such interesting riding. We ended up on nearby roads more often than on the Parkway and after four days of it headed away from the area on superslab just to get out of the constant rain. And Yes, I the rain goddess, did Deal's Gap in the rain. Have a great time! Julie --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Julie Holm (ENTP)| DoD #1604 AMA#397939 UKMC# 0001 VOC# 4672 holm@XXXXXX | 1985 Virago 700 "Maureen" | I'm home at http://www.ziplink.net/~holm NGG Webmistress | Remember the PINK PAGES are always changing (Just and Armourer | like a Nasty Girlie's mind!) | NGG home page http://www.ziplink.net/~holm/ngg/ngg.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 08:17:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA21593; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA25970; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:17:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA01522; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:17:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A2EC21B022A; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 08:17:35 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980303075259.009e6930@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 07:52:59 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Map of Blue Ridge Parkway In-Reply-To: <199803022132.QAA14933@shell.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:32 PM 3/2/98 -0500, Louis F. Caplan wrote: >I'm toying with the idea of riding the Blue Ridge Parkway from Skyline >drive, all the way down to the end for a vacation this summer. I remember >that there was some company that offered a map especially geared to >motorcyclists for going down. Of course now that I'm looking for it, >I can't find mention of it it anywhere. Does anyone know of such a map? >Or any map that is good for a trip down the BRP? Dale Coyner's book, referred to by others, is probably a good choice. Me, I just use the regular BRPs they give out. It has all the campgrounds, overlooks, etc. In NC you might want to check out the two motorcycle campgrounds - can't think of their names right now. One is about 20 miles off the BRP - but it's still fun. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 09:32:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22778; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:32:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26728; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:32:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03091; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA13487 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA16707 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:31:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980303143150.CCYJ2164@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:31:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 09:31 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: Cruise Control Install/a hectic day X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980303143150.CCYJ2164@[166.41.242.141]> ECC Install....Long, delete now if not interested. I scheduled Saturday to install a new Electronic Cruise Control system on the ST and figured it'd take roughly 5-6 hours of work. Prior to Saturday morning, I cleaned the garage and removed plastic taking some time to finally clean off all that road crud and salt that has adorned the lowers for so long. Part of the plan for Saturday was to help Linda Tanner install some brake pads up front. So I called her and told her to be over by 11am (so I could sleep in :-). "I gotta get the bike inspected, and they close at 12pm!"...Do'h. "Alright then, be here by 10am". Well it turns out, I was up by 9am because this was also the weekend my roomate was moving out. With the noise, who could sleep...sigh. It took about 20 minutes a caliper to replace the pads on Lindas' F3 and then she was gone. She came back later to keep me company and offer a hand. The ECC is comprised of five sub-systems: Cruise Control Switch, Cable interface Unit, Speed Sensor, Computer, and the Vacuum Actuator. It's all tied into a single wiring harness that MCC provides. For my bike, in addition to the plastic removal I needed to remove the fuel cell. That top cover houses the air filter and carbs, not a gas tank. The instructions for installation are just a little better than moderately understandable. I think that they could be improved with better quality pictures of the procedures being described. I found that (having previously read the instructions) reading and re-reading some of the instructions, the intention finally sank in. The hardest part of the install was assembling and tuning the Cable Interface unit. It's a box with two seperate spindles that allow the Vacuum Actuater Cable to take control of the throttle when the ECC is engaged. The VAC uses one spindle and the throttle cable with an extended throttle cable (from the CUI) uses the other spindle. So, you've got three cables running into the CUI. Features: - There is an diagnostic mode to test that the sensor and computer are talking. - Works just like a car ECC. Acquire your desired speed, press SET and the system takes over. Up and Down hills keeps you w/in about 1mph. - Pressing SET while the ECC is engaged bumps your speed up a little. Press and hold and the speed increases steadily. - Hit the brakes, the system dis-engages. Press RESUME and your previously acquired speed is obtained. - While engaged, Pressing RESUME bumps your speed down. Press and hold and the speed decreases steadily. So far, I like. I like alot. This system will come in very handy over this summer, as I plan to put a lot of miles on the ST. Todd +-----------------------------+---------------+ | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | +-----------------------------+---------------+ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 09:36:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22817; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:36:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26786; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:36:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03200; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA15147; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:35:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA30754; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:35:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980303143544.TIIW27632@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:35:44 -0600 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 09:35 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Sean Sullivan CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Something Fun to Think About X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980303143544.TIIW27632@[166.41.242.141]> Sean Sullivan: >Re: Something Fun to Think About > >Road trip! > A ride to Deals Gap sounds like the perfect way to spend a Memorial Day >weekend. I'll >bring the marshmallows. You have patched up relations with law enforcement >between >here and Tennessee, haven't you Todd? > Sean > 95 F3 LEO is happy just to bust you. Patching up my relations with the state is grudgingly accomplished in a monetary way. Touching an exposed nerve here Sean! Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 09:39:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22855; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26838; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:39:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03259; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id PDDNa09366; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:37:55 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <84e11129.34fc15c7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:37:55 EST To: Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/2/98 6:44:21 PM, Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX wrote: <> Is this any kind of trip for newbies whose longest twisty stretch to date has lasted about 10 minutes? :D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 09:43:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22951; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:43:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26964; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:43:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA.COM by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03504; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:43:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 09:36:25 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 09:43:32 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Something Fun Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Re: Something Fun I thought you were okay as long as you weren't caught riding a BMW. :) Sean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nah, it's the redneck cops in NC that you gotta look out for:) -George <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 10:07:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23380; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:07:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27179; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:06:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04062; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:06:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA00397 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:05:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA27364 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980303150548.VLSJ27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:05:48 -0600 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 10:03 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980303150548.VLSJ27160@[166.41.242.141]> For those of you that haven't ridden that many miles on twisty roads, this trip could be a little tiring. The good thing though is that you won't feel tired until the end of the day, because you'll constantly be in awe of the scenary and laughing outloud at all the fun in the corners you're having. Regardless of the headcount we get for this ride, I planned on staying within reasonable speed limits (sometimes 55mph, sometimes 35mph) and just enjoying the ride. Expect close to 1,200 miles total for the weekend...Th, Fr, Sa, Su, Mo We've got until the end of May to get those skills honed. So let's do it. I think Leon was planning on another skill testing day to be combined with the Picnic hosted by Dale and Tracy. Can we have that w/in a couple of weeks of flying south? Todd Marcy wrote: >Is this any kind of trip for newbies whose longest twisty stretch to date has >lasted about 10 minutes? :D > >Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 10:21:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23691; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27323; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04382; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA09031; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:20:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA11330; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980303152054.CTXR2164@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:20:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 10:14 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Chris Norloff CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Subject: Re: Map of Blue Ridge Parkway X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980303152054.CTXR2164@[166.41.242.141]> Try Here: http://www.uscsu.sc.edu/eastoc/brccg.html For the Blue Ridge Cycle CampGround. This URL taken from the EaSToc page for 1997. <<>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 10:24:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23753; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27344; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:24:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04447; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:24:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA09723 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:24:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA06939 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:24:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.32.84.59]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980303152416.CVGE2164@XXXXXX> for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:24:16 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:24:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD468E.82D15860.linda.tanner@mci.com> From: Linda Tanner To: "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Something Fun Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:24:11 -0500 Organization: MCI Telecommunications X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, none of us were riding beemers and we got nailed anyway ;-( LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze -----Original Message----- From: Sean Sullivan [SMTP:SUPERFND@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 9:44 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Something Fun Re: Something Fun I thought you were okay as long as you weren't caught riding a BMW. :) Sean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nah, it's the redneck cops in NC that you gotta look out for:) -George <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 10:54:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24281; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27780; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05429; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:53:34 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.8 3-18-1997)) id 852565BC.005773E0 ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:55:12 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565BC.0056AC29.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:55:08 -0400 Subject: RE: Something Fun Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Well, none of us were riding beemers and we got nailed anyway ;-( LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze Well at least we were able to get out of N.C. and Tenn. without getting any complementary high performance certificates. It wasn't until we got back into the merry old Commonwealth of Virginia that we were given that honor. Thanks to officer Moran . . . or was that officer Moron. Steve Beck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 10:59:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24380; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27903; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:59:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05637; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-112-112.s112.tnt4.ann.erols.com [207.172.112.112]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16089; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:59:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FC28E5.41A67461@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 10:59:33 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re:/a hectic day References: <19980303143150.CCYJ2164@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 20 min per caliper!?!?! What took so long?? Granted the first time I changed mine it took a bit longer, but ever since, I think I've spent a whopping 5 min/caliper on front and slightly longer on the back. Granted, that generally includes only changing the pads, visually inspecting everything, and cleaning the guide pins... Doing a full teardown would take much longer... Collin Todd Peer wrote: > It took about 20 minutes a caliper to replace the pads on Lindas' F3 > and then she was gone. She came back later to keep me company and > offer a hand. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:06:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24483; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:06:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28054; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:06:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA05859; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:06:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA22407; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:05:41 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D480FCA@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:05:59 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I'm FIENDING for a ride since I haven't been on one in a while... Anyone interested if the weather holds up?? - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:07:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24505; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28092; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA05882; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA01427; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:06:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA19377; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:06:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980303160648.TUFT27632@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:06:48 -0600 Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:06 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re:/a hectic day X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980303160648.TUFT27632@[166.41.242.141]> Taking into account getting the bike in the garage (had to circumnavigate my roomates moving truck across a swamp (my neigbors hate me))...... F3 calipers have little plugs covering the pad pins. These plugs were torqued by Magilla Gorilla the last time the pads were changed. Had to drive them out...... Took time to explain what was what to Linda, so next time she can do this on her own....... Weren't going for speed, knowing she had time to get to the station.... ......adds up to about 20 minutes per. Maybe it was more like 15. Yea, Yea, yea. Let's have a pad changing contest! Todd Collin blistered me: >20 min per caliper!?!?! What took so long?? Granted the first time I >changed mine it took a bit longer, but ever since, I think I've spent a >whopping 5 min/caliper on front and slightly longer on the back. >Granted, that generally includes only changing the pads, visually >inspecting everything, and cleaning the guide pins... Doing a full >teardown would take much longer... >Collin > >Todd Peer wrote: > >> It took about 20 minutes a caliper to replace the pads on Lindas' F3 >> and then she was gone. She came back later to keep me company and >> offer a hand. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:19:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24766; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28381; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:19:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo23.mail.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06409; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:19:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id LKBBa05360; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:18:27 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <9484f34a.34fc2d56@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:18:27 EST To: jlobrien@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/3/98 11:14:25 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: <> count me in for Sunday ..... Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:22:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24859; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28428; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:21:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06555; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA10439 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA00045 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980303162111.TWBL27632@XXXXXX> for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:11 -0600 Message-ID: <34FC2DF6.8821E34B@mci.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:21:10 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Skills session/Picnic References: <19980303150548.VLSJ27160@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Peer wrote: > > > We've got until the end of May to get those skills honed. So let's > do it. I think Leon was planning on another skill testing day to be > combined with the Picnic hosted by Dale and Tracy. Can we have that > w/in a couple of weeks of flying south? > > Todd > How does the first Saturday in May sound to everyone? (That's May 2nd for the calendar-impaired :-) The DC Cycles Spring Picnic can be held at our house, and if combined with another great skills session hosted by Leon, it promises to be quite the fun-filled day. Dale (the Horkster) PS: Yes, I'll be making more lasagna! PPS: The Deal's Gap long weekend sounds like lots of fun, but I plan on doing the SaddleSore1000 with Leon, PROVIDED OF COURSE THAT MANASSAS HONDA KAWASAKI GETS MY FREAKIN' PARTS IN FOR MY FREAKIN' BIKE BEFORE THE END OF FREAKIN' MAY!!!!!!! It's been a whole week now. I mean really... PPPS: Ahem, Sorry for the above rant. Can you tell I miss my bike? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:26:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24992; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:26:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28738; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:26:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06911; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:26:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA10747; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:25:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA26370; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:25:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980303162519.TWQE27632@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:25:19 -0600 Message-ID: <34FC2EED.BEDC1F34@mci.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:25:17 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" , dc-cycles Subject: Re: pad wars References: <19980303160648.TUFT27632@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wait a couple of months, you guys can race to change the pads on my LTD. Double disks up front, so it will be fair. :-) Dale (the Horkster) Todd Peer wrote: > > Yea, Yea, yea. Let's have a pad changing contest! > > Todd > > Collin blistered me: > >20 min per caliper!?!?! What took so long?? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:34:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25270; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:34:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29125; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:34:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07587; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4698.1501BA50@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:32:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:32:42 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 40 TEXT He's been missing his bike so much - he has even ventured to riding mine - sorry for the picture that must have created for some you - clown on a tricycle....yep ---------- From: Dale Horstman[SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 11:21 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Skills session/Picnic Todd Peer wrote: > > > We've got until the end of May to get those skills honed. So let's > do it. I think Leon was planning on another skill testing day to be > combined with the Picnic hosted by Dale and Tracy. Can we have that > w/in a couple of weeks of flying south? > > Todd > How does the first Saturday in May sound to everyone? (That's May 2nd for the calendar-impaired :-) The DC Cycles Spring Picnic can be held at our house, and if combined with another great skills session hosted by Leon, it promises to be quite the fun-filled day. Dale (the Horkster) PS: Yes, I'll be making more lasagna! PPS: The Deal's Gap long weekend sounds like lots of fun, but I plan on doing the SaddleSore1000 with Leon, PROVIDED OF COURSE THAT MANASSAS HONDA KAWASAKI GETS MY FREAKIN' PARTS IN FOR MY FREAKIN' BIKE BEFORE THE END OF FREAKIN' MAY!!!!!!! It's been a whole week now. I mean really... PPPS: Ahem, Sorry for the above rant. Can you tell I miss my bike? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:36:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25297; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:36:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29176; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:36:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07654; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA10195; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:35:45 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D480FD5@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:36:05 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sounds good to me!! YUM!! lasagna!! Everyone - the lasagna alone makes it worth the trip!! - Jeannette > > > > How does the first Saturday in May sound to everyone? > (That's May 2nd for the calendar-impaired :-) > The DC Cycles Spring Picnic can be held at our house, > and if combined with another great skills session hosted > by Leon, it promises to be quite the fun-filled day. > > Dale (the Horkster) > > PS: Yes, I'll be making more lasagna! > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:53:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25584; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:53:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29574; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08270; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:53:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA27125; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA20106; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:52:26 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA20098; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:52:23 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4681.A8704F20@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:52:12 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 08:48:25 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 30 TEXT Don't forget that I'm making empandas (spanish meat turnovers) - my specialty! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 8:36 AM >To: 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic > >Sounds good to me!! YUM!! lasagna!! >Everyone - the lasagna alone makes it worth the trip!! > >- Jeannette > >> > >> >> How does the first Saturday in May sound to everyone? >> (That's May 2nd for the calendar-impaired :-) >> The DC Cycles Spring Picnic can be held at our house, >> and if combined with another great skills session hosted >> by Leon, it promises to be quite the fun-filled day. >> >> Dale (the Horkster) >> >> PS: Yes, I'll be making more lasagna! >> >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 11:57:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25659; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:57:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29615; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08385; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:57:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD469A.B1A8F5B0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:51:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:51:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Being the sucker that I am for Italian food.... I'm a go for that one... I'd even be willing to help cook....and yes... I can cook!!! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 11:36 AM >To: 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic > >Sounds good to me!! YUM!! lasagna!! >Everyone - the lasagna alone makes it worth the trip!! > >- Jeannette > >> > >> >> How does the first Saturday in May sound to everyone? >> (That's May 2nd for the calendar-impaired :-) >> The DC Cycles Spring Picnic can be held at our house, >> and if combined with another great skills session hosted >> by Leon, it promises to be quite the fun-filled day. >> >> Dale (the Horkster) >> >> PS: Yes, I'll be making more lasagna! >> >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 12:12:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25956; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:12:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA29816; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:12:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08882; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:12:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD469C.C634E640@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:06:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Viteri, Ursulina'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:06:17 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can see that my "table muscle" is going to be in dire need of a workout when this picnic is over and done with.... time to get ready now!!! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Viteri, Ursulina [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 11:48 AM >To: 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic > >Don't forget that I'm making empandas (spanish meat turnovers) - my >specialty! > >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 8:36 AM >>To: 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >>Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic >> >>Sounds good to me!! YUM!! lasagna!! >>Everyone - the lasagna alone makes it worth the trip!! >> >>- Jeannette >> >>> > >>> >>> How does the first Saturday in May sound to everyone? >>> (That's May 2nd for the calendar-impaired :-) >>> The DC Cycles Spring Picnic can be held at our house, >>> and if combined with another great skills session hosted >>> by Leon, it promises to be quite the fun-filled day. >>> >>> Dale (the Horkster) >>> >>> PS: Yes, I'll be making more lasagna! >>> >>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 12:30:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26381; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00922; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:30:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA09630; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:30:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id JAA07544; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:29:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id JAA29590; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:29:45 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id JAA29570; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:29:41 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4686.DA0C8EE0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:29:23 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Tom Zell'" , "'Viteri, Ursulina'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:25:24 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 53 TEXT Eat, drink and be merry - that's what I say! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 9:06 AM >To: 'Viteri, Ursulina'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic > >I can see that my "table muscle" is going to be in dire need of a >workout when this picnic is over and done with.... time to get ready >now!!! > >-Tom > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Viteri, Ursulina [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 11:48 AM >>To: 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >>Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic >> >>Don't forget that I'm making empandas (spanish meat turnovers) - my >>specialty! >> >>Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >>202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>>Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 8:36 AM >>>To: 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >>>Subject: RE: Skills session/Picnic >>> >>>Sounds good to me!! YUM!! lasagna!! >>>Everyone - the lasagna alone makes it worth the trip!! >>> >>>- Jeannette >>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> How does the first Saturday in May sound to everyone? >>>> (That's May 2nd for the calendar-impaired :-) >>>> The DC Cycles Spring Picnic can be held at our house, >>>> and if combined with another great skills session hosted >>>> by Leon, it promises to be quite the fun-filled day. >>>> >>>> Dale (the Horkster) >>>> >>>> PS: Yes, I'll be making more lasagna! >>>> >>>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 13:20:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA27286; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA01952; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA11563; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD46A6.C85E9880@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:17:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: NVCC - Annadale Campus Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:17:56 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 17 TEXT Have any of you taken any courses at the Annadale Campus and rode your bike to get there? Getting the run around from them as to where I can park my bike and where to put the rear-view mirror hanger permit they gave me or if I even need the damn thing. I've called Parking - they say we don't issue those, call Extended Learning, they say call Parking. When I tell them that Parking told me to call them, they said they will have Parking call me. Found a phone number on the hanger, called it - they say call Parking. I'm wondering why put your phone number on the hanger if I have to call Parking - she said there is parking for Motocycles between buildings CF and CC. Just wanted to know if this is true plus anyone else I should be calling instead of Parking. Tracy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 13:36:02 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA27716; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:36:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02177; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:35:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12386; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:35:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id NAA08214; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:35:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:34:41 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D480FE0@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:34:59 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Looks like we're having a majority voting for Sunday. Ok, any more "experienced" riders want to volunteer to lead? Speaking for myself, I am just not up to that quite yet!! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 11:18 AM > To: jlobrien@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? > > > In a message dated 3/3/98 11:14:25 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: > > < Anyone interested if the weather holds up?? > >> > > count me in for Sunday ..... > > Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 13:42:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA27879; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:42:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02247; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:41:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12671; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:41:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id QRSTa04960; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:40:47 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:40:47 EST To: zell@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: Skills session/Picnic Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/3/98 12:05:27 PM, zell@XXXXXX wrote: <> I missed something here ...... PICNIC? what PICNIC? Marcy who LOVES LOVES LOVES Italian food................ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 15:46:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA00411; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:46:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04637; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA17255; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.75.13]) by mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA3057; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:45:36 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:42:15 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd46e4$d9a37d20$0d4b440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 J- I'm on the way out to pick up the VFR at Cycles USA! Hell YES I want to go for a ride!!! He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 15:48:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA00434; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:48:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04684; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:47:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA17322; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id PAA10319; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:46:46 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D480FF7@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'kevin thomas'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:47:06 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Congrats, Kevin!!! Looks like Curtis is offering to be our leader. Here's details: Ask Marcy if she would like to take the same route that we took a few >> weeks ago, down through Lorton, Clifton, Would take a few hours to >> complete. Marcy went last time so she can tell you how it was.These >> are >> the only roads that I know well. > -----Original Message----- > From: kevin thomas [SMTP:klthomas@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 3:42 PM > To: O'Brien, Jeannette; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? > > J- > > I'm on the way out to pick up the VFR at Cycles USA! Hell YES I want > to go > for a ride!!! > > > He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing > it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 16:04:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01105; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA05048; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:04:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA18146; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:04:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA05127; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:11:16 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'kevin thomas'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:05:21 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ever heard of the blind leading the blind, should be fun. >---------- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 3:47 PM >To: 'kevin thomas'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? > >Congrats, Kevin!!! Looks like Curtis is offering to be our leader. >Here's details: > > Ask Marcy if she would like to take the same route that we took a few >>> weeks ago, down through Lorton, Clifton, Would take a few hours to >>> complete. Marcy went last time so she can tell you how it was.These >>> are >>> the only roads that I know well. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: kevin thomas [SMTP:klthomas@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 3:42 PM >> To: O'Brien, Jeannette; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? >> >> J- >> >> I'm on the way out to pick up the VFR at Cycles USA! Hell YES I want >> to go >> for a ride!!! >> >> >> He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing >> it. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 16:19:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01360; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:19:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA05968; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:19:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA18792; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:19:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id QAA24060; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:18:29 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D480FFF@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:18:48 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Ok, here's the scoop (via Curtis) for this Sunday: (pray for no rain!!) - Jeannette Let's meet at around 10:30-leave at 11:00. We can meet at McDonalds or the CVS we met at last time. Across from Beacon Mall. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 16:28:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01524; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:28:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA06159; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA19193; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA14725 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:27:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FCA0B5.96B@mnsinc.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 16:30:45 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: No Digest for 3-2-98 ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey y'all, I had server problems yesterday - in any event I did not receive my normal digest delivery for yesterday (03.02.98). I'd be grateful if some kind soul would forward that on to me - unless you guys&gals were (strangely) silent yesterday ;) TIA, JK -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" - K. Marx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 16:42:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01781; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:42:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA06497; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:42:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA19788; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:42:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id QAA22101; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma022038; Tue, 3 Mar 98 16:41:46 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:41:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'John C. Kozyn'" , dc-cycles Subject: RE: No Digest for 3-2-98 ? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:41:52 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain I get the blow by blow (each message directly) and got nothing at all yesterday. Maybe everyone just had nothing to say... John Whiteside jwhiteside@XXXXXX > -----Original Message----- > From: John C. Kozyn [SMTP:jckozyn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 7:31 PM > To: dc-cycles > Subject: No Digest for 3-2-98 ? > > Hey y'all, > > I had server problems yesterday - in any event I did not receive my > normal digest delivery for yesterday (03.02.98). I'd be grateful if > some > kind soul would forward that on to me - unless you guys&gals were > (strangely) silent yesterday ;) > > TIA, > > JK > -- > John Kozyn > "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" - K. Marx > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 17:10:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA02315; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:10:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA07170; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:10:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA20985; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:10:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23858 invoked by alias); 3 Mar 1998 22:10:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 23840 invoked from network); 3 Mar 1998 22:10:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jywon.imi?dc) (12.3.130.190) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 1998 22:10:26 -0000 Message-ID: <004a01bd46f1$28b73580$be82030c@jywon.imi_dc> Reply-To: "Justin Won" From: "Justin Won" To: Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:09:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Awesome, dude! Would that be the VFR800, perchance? Justin -----Original Message----- From: kevin thomas To: O'Brien, Jeannette ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 2:57 PM Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? >J- > >I'm on the way out to pick up the VFR at Cycles USA! Hell YES I want to go >for a ride!!! > > >He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 17:22:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA02481; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA07597; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA21336; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id QAA06313 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:21:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA07425 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:21:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.32.84.59]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980303222148.IGLO2164@XXXXXX> for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:21:48 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:21:41 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD46C8.D4E31FA0.linda.tanner@mci.com> From: Linda Tanner To: "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: FW: No Digest for 3-2-98 ? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:21:40 -0500 Organization: MCI Telecommunications X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yesterday WAS very slow (we lost the will to argue?? ;-), but I did get 9 messages dated 3/2. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 17:32:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA02706; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:32:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA07777; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA21613; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id RAA20204; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:39:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:39:38 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: Jinn Sinn cc: jlobrien@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? In-Reply-To: <9484f34a.34fc2d56@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Grumble, grumble....now I have two non-functional bikes! The GPz still is tireless and my new GS650 flows fuel from the carb/airbox vents until I clean the carbs up! -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 18:06:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03270; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:06:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA08087; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:05:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA22589; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:05:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA16358 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:46:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:46:11 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: Salvation? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, I guess having connections is a god thing. I received a call this afternoon from one of them informing me he had someone approcah him with a running, non-titleable VF500 (no clue on the year). The guy's looking to get rid of it (he wanted to part it, but I'm willing to take the whole thing off his hands). So, I'm looking at a complete, non-titled bike for a couple of hundred dollars.. I can actually afford that. Now, if it only has the few parts I've already sold from mine.. ;) Or, I can always just Raid Jeannettes bike.. oh, just kidding.. :) Well, just a hint of good news amongst the receint trend of bad.. News from the RS world - I finally have all but the engine, and that's just waiting for me to have money. The ONLY thig it needs is a new cylinder, $516, and it'll be a totaly rebuilt bike - old parts, and anything that could wear is new. Looking for any kind of sponsors - I just want someone to GIVE ME DA MONEY to ride a motorcycle.. :P Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 18:17:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03546; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:17:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA08174; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA23038; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-185.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.185]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA01488; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:22:01 -0500 Message-ID: <34FC8F4A.676B6EBE@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 18:16:27 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jinn Sinn CC: Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... References: <84e11129.34fc15c7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes. Todd's suggestion for Deal's Gap is ideal for newer riders. If you've gone more than 150 miles in a day, and have ridden your bike with camping gear for a couple of hours, you can do this trip. Doing it my way, (1000 miles in one day) I'd advise having done more than 400 miles in a day. In either case, the important thing to remember is don't ride beyond your limits. Watch yourself, if you see you're doing dumb things, tell somebody. I don't think anyone would complain about taking an extra stop or two rather than see anyone get hurt. Leon. Jinn Sinn wrote: > In a message dated 3/2/98 6:44:21 PM, Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX wrote: > > < > Todd>> > > Is this any kind of trip for newbies whose longest twisty stretch to date has > lasted about 10 minutes? :D > > Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 20:09:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA05169; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA08883; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:09:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA25697; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:09:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id UAA15629; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:16:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:16:15 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: Brian McCoy cc: DC-Cycles list Subject: Re: Salvation? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You might want to run the V.I.N numbers by the police first. --garcia On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Brian McCoy wrote: > Well, > > I guess having connections is a god thing. I received a call this > afternoon from one of them informing me he had someone approcah him with a > running, non-titleable VF500 (no clue on the year). The guy's looking to > get rid of it (he wanted to part it, but I'm willing to take the whole > thing off his hands). So, I'm looking at a complete, non-titled bike for > a couple of hundred dollars.. I can actually afford that. Now, if it only ...snip From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 20:40:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA05508; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA09417; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA26238; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (port27.annex2.radix.net [209.48.226.27]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA26406 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:40:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FCDAB0.5B5D@radix.net> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 20:38:08 -0800 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Salvation? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have many police officer confidants, if you care to check with anonymity. RDW >Garcia Oliver wrote: > > You might want to run the V.I.N numbers by the police first. > > --garcia > > On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Brian McCoy wrote: > . I received a call this afternoon from one of them informing me he had someone approcah him with a running, non-titleable VF500 (no clue on the year). From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 20:50:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA05600; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA09507; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA26373; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from rdt.erols.com (207-172-35-209.s209.tnt9.brd.erols.com [207.172.35.209]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07300; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:50:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803040150.UAA07300@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Roy D. Turner" To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 20:48:51 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Saturday would be good for me. Roy D. Turner, Esq. ---------- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Ride This Weekend?? > Date: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 11:05 AM > > I'm FIENDING for a ride since I haven't been on one in a while... > Anyone interested if the weather holds up?? > > - Jeannette > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 21:24:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA06036; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:24:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA11083; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA27186; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:24:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.75.151]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA10713 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:23:44 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: picking up the VFR Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:20:22 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4714$15ff1ac0$974b440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Y'all-- I caused some confusion, I'm afraid. I was picking up the same VFR I dropped off there for a new voltage regulator last week. It's been not running for 2 months. When I win the lottery, I'll buy a VFR 800. Meanwhile, I'm saving for a house. Getting married, got new priorities. See ya Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 23:40:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA07965; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15563; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00036; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.58] (unverified [207.226.128.58]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:39:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something Fun Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 23:40:11 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Sean Sullivan" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >I thought you were okay as long as you weren't caught riding a BMW. :) > Sean > >>>>> >Nah, it's the redneck cops in NC that you gotta look out for:) Your point? :) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 23:40:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA07964; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15547; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:39:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00028; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:39:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.58] (unverified [207.226.128.58]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:39:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 23:40:02 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Leon Begeman" , "Jinn Sinn" cc: , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >In either case, the important thing to remember is don't ride beyond your >limits. Watch yourself, if you see you're doing dumb things, tell >somebody. I >don't think anyone would complain about taking an extra stop or two rather >than >see anyone get hurt. Not bad advice. While I haven't done a whole lot of long distance riding, if I can find the time to go (I'll try to remember to put in the vacation request now) I might be able to ride in the back and wait for stragglers. If I go, I'll be riding two-up, so riding more conservatively anyway. And, as Todd pointed out, due to LEOs and the scenery, it won't be a super hectic route anyway. ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 3 23:40:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA07969; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15552; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:39:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00032; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:39:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.58] (unverified [207.226.128.58]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:39:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 23:40:06 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >I'm FIENDING for a ride since I haven't been on one in a while... >Anyone interested if the weather holds up?? Always interested, even if the weather doesn't hold (especially since the new tires have about 300 miles on them (finally)) Will I show? I'm batting .500 now.... ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 00:14:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08915; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16825; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00911; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.31] (unverified [207.226.128.31]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Wed, 04 Mar 1998 00:12:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: picking up the VFR Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 00:13:41 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "kevin thomas" , "dc-cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Meanwhile, I'm saving for a house. Getting married, got new priorities. If you had picked the right girl, I'm sure getting the bike WOULD be the new priority. -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 02:50:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA10299; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA19335; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA02983; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:50:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA03956 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 02:50:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FD3291.D3F@mnsinc.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 02:53:05 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: FS: Older Duck Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From: rick@XXXXXX (rick) > Subject: Ducati MC > > '75 860 GT w/full fairing. Electric start. 900 heads, cams, 40mm Delortos. > Original 32mm delortos, 860 heads, misc jets and needles, other stuff too. Needs > battery and to be timed and tuned. Been kept in garage and not run in quite some > time. > Have a Nice Day! > Rick The usual disclaimers apply... -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" - K. Marx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 07:54:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA12303; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA22191; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:53:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA06072; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:53:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id IAA13748; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:01:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:01:22 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: "Cycles, DC -- DC Cycles" Subject: GS650 Help Request Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, I was able to pull off the carb rack last night (after borrowing an impact driver). I have never worked on Mikuni's before (actually, I've done VERY little carb work at all myself). I got the float bowls off, the gaskets appear to be in good shape, do I need to replace them anyway? Should just dab a tiny bit of glue goo on them and reassemble when the time comes? I pulled the floats out and float needle. Should I pull out the float valve seat? I can't figure out how to do it, it doesn't easily pull out after I removed the hold down screw. Can I pull off the top covers w/o damaging the diaphragms or do you think that I'll have to replace those too if I pull the cover? Thank you...maybe by this weekend, she'll be running! -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 08:31:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA12661; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA22393; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:30:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA06626; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:30:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA09138 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:33:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:33:10 -0500 (EST) From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 03/03/98 In-Reply-To: <199803040000.TAA08424@tove.cs.umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Marcy, you can do the Blue Ridge Parkway, no problem. It's not really twisty, just lots of gentle rolling curves. They give you lots of turning practice without coming so fast you feel overwhelmed. Deal's Gap is another thing. Remember a couple of things. Don't push yourself beyond what you can do. It's only 11 miles, so you can handle it, but let the guys and girls that want to push the envelope through first. That's what I did, and I enjoyed it immensely. After going down the BRP, you'll love Deal's Gap. Julie --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Julie Holm (ENTP)| DoD #1604 AMA#397939 UKMC# 0001 VOC# 4672 holm@XXXXXX | 1985 Virago 700 "Maureen" | I'm home at http://www.ziplink.net/~holm NGG Webmistress | Remember the PINK PAGES are always changing (Just and Armourer | like a Nasty Girlie's mind!) | NGG home page http://www.ziplink.net/~holm/ngg/ngg.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 09:07:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13193; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:07:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22650; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:06:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA07436; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:06:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA02913 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:06:21 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:06:21 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 03/03/98 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:07:43 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 9 TEXT >Marcy, you can do the Blue Ridge Parkway, no problem. It's not really twisty, just lots of gentle rolling curves< Remember, Winnebagos do the road all the time...;-) It's a VERY nice road for a relaxed ride Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 09:24:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13372; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22782; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:23:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA07839; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA17180; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:23:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA14750; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980304142316.YSTA27160@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:23:16 -0600 Message-ID: <34FD63D2.C9C5C381@mci.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 09:23:14 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Morris Berman CC: "Cycles, DC -- DC Cycles" Subject: Re: GS650 Help Request References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Morris Berman asked about carbs: > > I got the float bowls off, > the gaskets appear to be in good shape, do I need to replace them > anyway? Should just dab a tiny bit of glue goo on them and reassemble > when the time comes? I've had good luck re-using the gaskets without any leaks. I would think the glue goo would just screw up the gaskets the next time around, and it might not hold up to gasoline anyway. YMMV. > > I pulled the floats out and float needle. Should I pull out the float > valve seat? I can't figure out how to do it, it doesn't easily pull > out after I removed the hold down screw. Hmm. Not sure what you are saying here. My float valve seat was threaded and hex-sided, you just turned it out with a wrench. Different design, maybe? Can I pull off the top covers w/o > damaging the diaphragms or do you think that I'll have to replace those > too if I pull the cover? If you are referring to the gaskets on the top of the carbs, with the covers that you need to remove when performing a carb synch, I've had good luck reusing these also. > > Thank you...maybe by this weekend, she'll be running! > Good Luck! Dale (the Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:01:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA13948; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:01:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23429; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08759; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (port44.annex4.radix.net [209.48.225.172]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA19945 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:00:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FD964B.75A2@radix.net> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 09:58:35 -0800 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: GS650 Help Request References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> No. <> No. <> Not if the carbs didn't overflow. <> Don't touch them unless you have to. Tearing a diaphram could cost you humdreds of dollars. Richard Wood From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:04:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA14073; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:04:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23512; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09103; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA04778; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:02:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA14451; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:02:55 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA14446; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:02:54 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD473B.857E4750@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:02:40 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Leon Begeman'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Deal's Gap was Something Fun to think about.... Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:59:00 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 48 TEXT Camping gear: I hate to sound like such a novice but what kind of stuff should we be packing for a trip like this? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 3:16 PM >To: Jinn Sinn >Cc: Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... > >Yes. Todd's suggestion for Deal's Gap is ideal for newer riders. If you've >gone >more than 150 miles in a day, and have ridden your bike with camping gear for >a >couple of hours, you can do this trip. > >Doing it my way, (1000 miles in one day) I'd advise having done more than >400 >miles in a day. > >In either case, the important thing to remember is don't ride beyond your >limits. Watch yourself, if you see you're doing dumb things, tell somebody. >I >don't think anyone would complain about taking an extra stop or two rather >than >see anyone get hurt. > >Leon. > >Jinn Sinn wrote: > >> In a message dated 3/2/98 6:44:21 PM, Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX wrote: >> >> <> >> Todd>> >> >> Is this any kind of trip for newbies whose longest twisty stretch to date >>has >> lasted about 10 minutes? :D >> >> Marcy > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:14:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA14288; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24292; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09476; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA06907; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:13:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA16121; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:13:38 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA16116; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:13:37 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD473D.04B6ADE0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:13:23 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:09:43 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 21 TEXT Sounds good! Hope the rain stays away. Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 1:19 PM >To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? > >Ok, here's the scoop (via Curtis) for this Sunday: >(pray for no rain!!) > >- Jeannette > >Let's meet at >around 10:30-leave at 11:00. We can meet at McDonalds or the CVS we met >at last time. Across from Beacon Mall. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:26:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA14632; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:26:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25012; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:25:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10062; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:25:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-218-91.pitb.grid.net [207.205.218.91]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25281 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:25:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980304102708.006b44c8@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 10:27:08 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Motorcycle Camping Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" For those interested, the BMW MOA has been building a motorcycle camping page: http://www.bmwmoa.org/camping/index.htm It's still under construction, but already has some useful info and links. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:27:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA14658; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:27:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25056; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:26:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from sundown.northgrum.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10096; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:26:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from puff.northgrum.com (puff.northgrum.com [157.127.103.139]) by sundown.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id HAA29091 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:26:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from xcgca004.northgrum.com ([157.127.103.103]) by puff.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id HAA17563 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:26:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by XCGCA004 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id <1SMZ53YY>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:26:24 -0800 Message-ID: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF50F@xcgva001.grumman.com> From: "Meier, Christopher" To: "'dc-cycles'" Subject: Daytona or Bust? Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:18:14 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Hi All, Just a quick note to say that last night I got back from a accident, mechanical failure and ticket free 1915 mile trip from DC to Daytona and back. I will try to muster a more detailed trip report after I get this mess that developed at work while I was gone back under control. :-( --chris PS ... It should make the trip to Deal's seem downright short. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Christopher A. Meier meierch@XXXXXX Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA 1994 RF900R AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:42:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15146; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:42:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25681; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10928; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:40:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4759.C2651DB0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:39:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: RE: Deal's Gap was Something Fun to think about.... Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:39:06 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 78 TEXT Since Dale is doing a Butt Blister. Bottom Bruiser, Nad Number or whatever with Leon, that leaves me with the kids and we were going camping. We could follow you all out with the car, help with those that don't know how/can't haul their gear by putting some of it in my car. We can camp as well as there as we can anywhere I suppose. We are going to camp in one place the whole weekend use it as a central location to ride from and back, right? Just wanted to know. I'm a Girl Scout - I can pitch a tent in minutes - I cook on a coffee can, etc - Or that's at least what I tell my girls. >From experience with camp grounds on high volume weekends like Memorial Day, Labor Day, shouldn't we look for the camp ground now and make some sort of reservations so that we are left out? Tracy ---------- From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 9:59 AM To: 'Leon Begeman'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: Deal's Gap was Something Fun to think about.... Camping gear: I hate to sound like such a novice but what kind of stuff should we be packing for a trip like this? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 3:16 PM >To: Jinn Sinn >Cc: Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Something Fun to think about.... > >Yes. Todd's suggestion for Deal's Gap is ideal for newer riders. If you've >gone >more than 150 miles in a day, and have ridden your bike with camping gear for >a >couple of hours, you can do this trip. > >Doing it my way, (1000 miles in one day) I'd advise having done more than >400 >miles in a day. > >In either case, the important thing to remember is don't ride beyond your >limits. Watch yourself, if you see you're doing dumb things, tell somebody. >I >don't think anyone would complain about taking an extra stop or two rather >than >see anyone get hurt. > >Leon. > >Jinn Sinn wrote: > >> In a message dated 3/2/98 6:44:21 PM, Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX wrote: >> >> <> >> Todd>> >> >> Is this any kind of trip for newbies whose longest twisty stretch to date >>has >> lasted about 10 minutes? :D >> >> Marcy > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:42:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15151; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:42:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25698; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:41:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10969; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:41:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov ([137.187.221.31]) by dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov (8.8.5/8.7.2) with ESMTP id KAA22379; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:40:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FD76AF.FB14BF53@dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 10:43:43 -0500 From: jay goddard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Meier, Christopher" CC: "'dc-cycles'" Subject: Re: Daytona or Bust? References: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF50F@xcgva001.grumman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You Da Man Meier, Christopher wrote: > Hi All, > > Just a quick note to say that last night I got back from a accident, > mechanical failure and ticket free 1915 mile trip from DC to Daytona and > back. > > I will try to muster a more detailed trip report after I get this mess > that developed at work while I was gone back under control. :-( > > --chris > > PS ... It should make the trip to Deal's seem downright short. :-) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ > Christopher A. Meier > meierch@XXXXXX > Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA > 1994 RF900R AMA #470094 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 10:57:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15408; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26203; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:56:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11542; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:56:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23178; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:56:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00857; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:56:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803041556.KAA00857@shell.clark.net> Subject: DC-Cycles Ride list Web page To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:56:19 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Ok, here's the scoop (via Curtis) for this Sunday: > (pray for no rain!!) > > - Jeannette > > Let's meet at > around 10:30-leave at 11:00. We can meet at McDonalds or the CVS we met > at last time. Across from Beacon Mall. I'm working on a new web page which will have these ride announcements. This way we can (hopefully) avoid messages for reposting of information. (I.e. post it once on DC-cycles, and I'll put it on the page for future reference) Also there are some people who'd like to ride with us, but aren't on DC-cycles. What I was thinking was it could have the date, meeting time, location (with directions), ride leader(s), approximate route (i.e. major towns we may pass), and approximate time of ride. So for this ride, the date is 3/8, meet at 10:30, depart 11:00. Have you decided on a meeting place? (the drug store across from Beacon Mall is a Rite Aid). Curtis is the ride leader. I'll put this page at: www.clark.net/pub/louis/dc-rides.htm So far I have this ride, and the preliminary information for the two rides to Deal's Gap (Leon's and Todd's). If you don't want your info here, let me know, and I'll remove it. Once a ride is done, I'll delete it to save on cluttering. Also, it will be simple, no flashy graphics or frames, so that those stuck on text shells will be able to access the information. Let me know if this is helpful, or a waste of time. Finally, this is something I just pounded together while trying to avoid doing real work this morning. :-) It's still rough, but feel free to comment. Louis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Caplan | DoD #1754 AMA #269779 | www.clark.net/pub/louis/cycle.htm Alexandria, VA | COG #2894 VCOM | Entrant #19, Capitol 1000 louis@XXXXXX | '98 Kawasaki Concours | Mean Green Scream Machine From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 11:34:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA16104; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26893; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:33:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA12850; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA25143 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA23765 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:33:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980304163318.DYKM4928@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:33:20 -0500 Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 11:32 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Subject: Camping to Deal's Gap X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980304163318.DYKM4928@[166.41.242.141]> Since we'll be moving steadily south, setting up a base camp to cover the entire weekend won't work. Once in the Deal's Gap area, a base camp does make sense. For those of you that have never moto-camped, or never been camping at all, it's no big deal. Your basic equipment follows this text. Keep in mind that I ain't no Grizzly Adams and if it's raining out before setting up camp, I'm looking for a cheap motel. If you've never camped, it's a lot of fun to hang out around a fire and bench race while quafing a few cold ones. Very relaxing. Expect to get a little dirty as some campgrounds only offer toilets. Some only offer the woods (we won't be going there). What you'll need: Sleeping Bag Flashlight Matches That's it!!! Remember, your outside and I've already discussed how to handle a rainy evening (motel). But a sleeping bag is a minimum to keep warm. Now, if your like me you might consider bringing some of the following as well: Gear: Tent Sleeping Pad (I use a ThermaRest) Pillow (you can get a blow-up that packs easily) Small first-aid kit (you should always carry one anyway) Rain-Suit Knife xtra Batteries Toilett Paper Bug Deet Clothing: Change(s) of Underwear and Socks T-shirts Jeans Tennis Shoes Light Jacket or Sweater And some saddle bags/panniers/tank bag to carry it all and keep it dry. BTW, I have a set of Chase Harper Saddle bags someone can use. The one with the fastest mail POP gets first dibs. I also have an old Pup-tent and a couple xtra sleeping bags someone can use. Keep in mind, these sleeping bags don't pack down to well (very bulky), but they're comfortable. All you other campers, am I missing anything (necessary items)? Todd +-----------------------------+---------------+ | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | +-----------------------------+---------------+ "I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer." --Homer Simpson From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 12:31:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA17583; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:31:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27442; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:31:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA15660; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:31:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4769.369B5690@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:29:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: FW: Camping to Deal's Gap Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:29:43 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 85 TEXT Well if you all don't mind a cager tagging along for the trip - offer still stands for those that need help in lugging gear - I have a family tent (3 rooms) and a 2 person tent I'll bring regardless - mine gear will be more of the standard. I have list of basic equip that I require the my scouts to bring plus some tips that I found really work when primitive camping that I will forward to the list as well because I know of some that are going that have never camped before. Tracy ---------- From: Todd Peer[SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 11:32 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Camping to Deal's Gap Since we'll be moving steadily south, setting up a base camp to cover the entire weekend won't work. Once in the Deal's Gap area, a base camp does make sense. For those of you that have never moto-camped, or never been camping at all, it's no big deal. Your basic equipment follows this text. Keep in mind that I ain't no Grizzly Adams and if it's raining out before setting up camp, I'm looking for a cheap motel. If you've never camped, it's a lot of fun to hang out around a fire and bench race while quafing a few cold ones. Very relaxing. Expect to get a little dirty as some campgrounds only offer toilets. Some only offer the woods (we won't be going there). What you'll need: Sleeping Bag Flashlight Matches That's it!!! Remember, your outside and I've already discussed how to handle a rainy evening (motel). But a sleeping bag is a minimum to keep warm. Now, if your like me you might consider bringing some of the following as well: Gear: Tent Sleeping Pad (I use a ThermaRest) Pillow (you can get a blow-up that packs easily) Small first-aid kit (you should always carry one anyway) Rain-Suit Knife xtra Batteries Toilett Paper Bug Deet Clothing: Change(s) of Underwear and Socks T-shirts Jeans Tennis Shoes Light Jacket or Sweater And some saddle bags/panniers/tank bag to carry it all and keep it dry. BTW, I have a set of Chase Harper Saddle bags someone can use. The one with the fastest mail POP gets first dibs. I also have an old Pup-tent and a couple xtra sleeping bags someone can use. Keep in mind, these sleeping bags don't pack down to well (very bulky), but they're comfortable. All you other campers, am I missing anything (necessary items)? Todd +-----------------------------+---------------+ | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | +-----------------------------+---------------+ "I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer." --Homer Simpson From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 12:39:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA17713; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:39:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27552; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA15987; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:39:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-60-244.s244.tnt7.brd.erols.com [207.172.60.244]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA26244 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:39:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980304123933.0075fecc@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: cfagan@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 12:39:33 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Arlington Electronic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've actually started emptying my trash folder, and sure enough it bit me.. I need the number for arlington electronic if anyone still has it... _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 12:46:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA17864; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:46:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27674; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:45:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA16371; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:45:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD476A.A0596300@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:39:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Louis F. Caplan'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: DC-Cycles Ride list Web page Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:39:50 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This sounds like a great idea to me!! -Tom '86 VFR700/750F >-----Original Message----- >From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 10:56 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: DC-Cycles Ride list Web page > > >> Ok, here's the scoop (via Curtis) for this Sunday: >> (pray for no rain!!) >> >> - Jeannette >> >> Let's meet at >> around 10:30-leave at 11:00. We can meet at McDonalds or the CVS we met >> at last time. Across from Beacon Mall. > >I'm working on a new web page which will have these ride announcements. >This way we can (hopefully) avoid messages for reposting of information. >(I.e. post it once on DC-cycles, and I'll put it on the page for future >reference) Also there are some people who'd like to ride with us, but >aren't on DC-cycles. What I was thinking was it could have the date, >meeting time, location (with directions), ride leader(s), approximate >route (i.e. major towns we may pass), and approximate time of ride. > >So for this ride, the date is 3/8, meet at 10:30, depart 11:00. Have you >decided on a meeting place? (the drug store across from Beacon Mall >is a Rite Aid). Curtis is the ride leader. > >I'll put this page at: www.clark.net/pub/louis/dc-rides.htm > >So far I have this ride, and the preliminary information for the two >rides to Deal's Gap (Leon's and Todd's). If you don't want your info >here, let me know, and I'll remove it. > >Once a ride is done, I'll delete it to save on cluttering. > >Also, it will be simple, no flashy graphics or frames, so that those stuck >on text shells will be able to access the information. > >Let me know if this is helpful, or a waste of time. > >Finally, this is something I just pounded together while trying to avoid >doing real work this morning. :-) It's still rough, but feel free to >comment. > >Louis > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Louis Caplan | DoD #1754 AMA #269779 | >www.clark.net/pub/louis/cycle.htm >Alexandria, VA | COG #2894 VCOM | Entrant #19, Capitol 1000 >louis@XXXXXX | '98 Kawasaki Concours | Mean Green Scream Machine > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 12:54:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA18051; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27780; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:54:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA16786; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:54:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD476C.66B722C0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:52:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: RE: Camping to Deal's Gap Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:52:32 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 100 TEXT Also, another note - the kids and I won't be tagging along during the day once we reach Deal's Gap. I'd be too jealous. We plan to do "camp" stuff during the day but would like to camp with you all so I can hear the stories first hand. Tracy ---------- From: Horstman, Tracy L @ MAN Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 12:29 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: FW: Camping to Deal's Gap Well if you all don't mind a cager tagging along for the trip - offer still stands for those that need help in lugging gear - I have a family tent (3 rooms) and a 2 person tent I'll bring regardless - mine gear will be more of the standard. I have list of basic equip that I require the my scouts to bring plus some tips that I found really work when primitive camping that I will forward to the list as well because I know of some that are going that have never camped before. Tracy ---------- From: Todd Peer[SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 11:32 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Camping to Deal's Gap Since we'll be moving steadily south, setting up a base camp to cover the entire weekend won't work. Once in the Deal's Gap area, a base camp does make sense. For those of you that have never moto-camped, or never been camping at all, it's no big deal. Your basic equipment follows this text. Keep in mind that I ain't no Grizzly Adams and if it's raining out before setting up camp, I'm looking for a cheap motel. If you've never camped, it's a lot of fun to hang out around a fire and bench race while quafing a few cold ones. Very relaxing. Expect to get a little dirty as some campgrounds only offer toilets. Some only offer the woods (we won't be going there). What you'll need: Sleeping Bag Flashlight Matches That's it!!! Remember, your outside and I've already discussed how to handle a rainy evening (motel). But a sleeping bag is a minimum to keep warm. Now, if your like me you might consider bringing some of the following as well: Gear: Tent Sleeping Pad (I use a ThermaRest) Pillow (you can get a blow-up that packs easily) Small first-aid kit (you should always carry one anyway) Rain-Suit Knife xtra Batteries Toilett Paper Bug Deet Clothing: Change(s) of Underwear and Socks T-shirts Jeans Tennis Shoes Light Jacket or Sweater And some saddle bags/panniers/tank bag to carry it all and keep it dry. BTW, I have a set of Chase Harper Saddle bags someone can use. The one with the fastest mail POP gets first dibs. I also have an old Pup-tent and a couple xtra sleeping bags someone can use. Keep in mind, these sleeping bags don't pack down to well (very bulky), but they're comfortable. All you other campers, am I missing anything (necessary items)? Todd +-----------------------------+---------------+ | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | +-----------------------------+---------------+ "I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer." --Homer Simpson From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 14:03:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA19595; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:03:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA29747; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:02:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA19699; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:02:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id OAA01536; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:01:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA26985; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:01:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980304190146.FWLP4928@[166.41.242.141]>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:01:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 13:49 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: CC: Subject: RE: Camping to Deal's Gap X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980304190146.FWLP4928@[166.41.242.141]> Tracy, I think that's a great idea. Aside from lugging gear, could you, would you mind playing chase vehicle for the 'just in case' situation? Simple enough, you go about your business, we know you're in the area and if needed we could call you on a cell phone. Todd <<> <>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 14:05:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA19762; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA00237; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:05:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA20000; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:05:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id WVLPa04959; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:04:25 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:04:25 EST To: ghowell@XXXXXX, klthomas@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: picking up the VFR Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/4/98 12:18:50 AM, ghowell@XXXXXX wrote: <<>Meanwhile, I'm saving for a house. Getting married, got new priorities. If you had picked the right girl, I'm sure getting the bike WOULD be the new priority. -George>> OUCH! Careful there George! Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 14:33:22 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA20569; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:33:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02902; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:32:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from scdh-99.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA21400; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:32:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mjb (mjb.arl.mil [131.218.32.189]) by scdh-99.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02139 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:32:37 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980304143637.0090b210@hazmat.com> X-Sender: mjb@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 14:36:37 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Matthew J. Bennett" Subject: FS: 400cc Honda Motorcycle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I realize this is a really vague ad, but a co-worker of mine (w/o email access) has a motorcycle that he wants gone. It is his son's, but the son has stopped riding and now wants to sell it. Here's what I know about this motorcycle (and all I know): 400CC Honda 2 cylinder (99% sure) hasn't been ridden in a while before it was parked, the master cylinder and carbs were rebuilt located in Calverton, MD (near I95 and Powder Mill Road) probably early 80's Very likely to go for a *low* price. Like I said, he wants it gone. This could be a great bargain. If you are interested, send me email with your telephone number and an appropriate time for him to call you back. (Remember, it may take me a day or two to get the message to him.) Matt ----------------------------- Matt Bennett | mjb@XXXXXX | http://www.hazmat.com/~mjb/ | From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 15:01:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21023; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:01:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA05805; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:00:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22528; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-60-244.s244.tnt7.brd.erols.com [207.172.60.244]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20564 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:00:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980304150211.0075bb94@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: cfagan@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:02:11 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Voltage Regulator/rectifier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anyone out there got an extra regulator that would match up to an 82 KZ550 which they'd be willing to part with??? The junkyard wants $75! or, could someone with a similar model get me a manufacturer part # off of theres... mines unreadable, and the kawi part # doesn't help when looking up at an electronics shop... Collin _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 15:06:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21137; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:06:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06145; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22768; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:05:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id PAA21737; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:07:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:07:00 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: Richard Wood cc: dc-cycle Subject: Re: Salvation? In-Reply-To: <34FCDAB0.5B5D@radix.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there some reason to care about anonymity if you're the potential buyer? There are lots of perfectly good reasons a vehicle might not have a title, but if it's a bike that's been reported stolen, I'd turn the seller in to the cops in a heartbeat. --garcia On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Richard Wood wrote: > I have many police officer confidants, if you care to check with > anonymity. > RDW > > >Garcia Oliver wrote: > > > > You might want to run the V.I.N numbers by the police first. > > > > --garcia > > > > On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Brian McCoy wrote: > > > . I received a call this afternoon from one of them informing me he had > someone approcah him with a running, non-titleable VF500 (no clue on the > year). > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 15:13:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21269; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:13:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06426; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23088; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:12:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-185.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.185]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA01104; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:17:18 -0500 Message-ID: <34FDB581.528D1EAD@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:11:45 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Matthew J. Bennett" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: FS: 400cc Honda Motorcycle References: <3.0.5.32.19980304143637.0090b210@hazmat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If it's a CB400 or CB400A, I have one that has a blown engine but is otherwise in very good shape. Mine is a 1978 CB400A Hawk Hondamatic. It is missing the electronic ignition unit, I gave that to Garcia. If you'll come get it, you can have mine, too. Leon. Matthew J. Bennett wrote: > I realize this is a really vague ad, but a co-worker of mine (w/o email > access) has a motorcycle that he wants gone. It is his son's, but the son > has stopped riding and now wants to sell it. > > Here's what I know about this motorcycle (and all I know): > 400CC Honda > 2 cylinder (99% sure) > hasn't been ridden in a while > before it was parked, the master cylinder and carbs were rebuilt > located in Calverton, MD (near I95 and Powder Mill Road) > probably early 80's > > Very likely to go for a *low* price. Like I said, he wants it gone. This > could be a great bargain. > > If you are interested, send me email with your telephone number and an > appropriate time for him to call you back. (Remember, it may take me a day > or two to get the message to him.) > > Matt > > ----------------------------- > Matt Bennett | > mjb@XXXXXX | > http://www.hazmat.com/~mjb/ | From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 15:29:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21548; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:29:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06984; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:28:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23737; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA04999; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:35:47 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:29:50 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, Rite Aid will be are meeting spot on Sunday. 10:30 We will leave at 11:00. (as long as Jeannette is their by then). Just Kidding, We will leave you too. HAHA Curtis P.S. No camping supplies needed for this trip. ---------- From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 4:19 PM To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Ok, here's the scoop (via Curtis) for this Sunday: (pray for no rain!!) - Jeannette Let's meet at around 10:30-leave at 11:00. We can meet at McDonalds or the CVS we met at last time. Across from Beacon Mall. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 15:46:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21869; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:46:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07671; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA24432; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:45:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id MAA03883; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id MAA12592; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:45:00 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id MAA12585; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:44:46 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD476B.40982EF0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:44:20 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:40:41 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 34 TEXT Where's the Rite Aid at? In the shopping center? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 12:30 PM >To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? > >OK, Rite Aid will be are meeting spot on Sunday. 10:30 We will leave at >11:00. (as long as Jeannette is their by then). Just Kidding, We will >leave you too. HAHA >Curtis >P.S. No camping supplies needed for this trip. > >---------- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 4:19 PM >To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Ride This Weekend?? > >Ok, here's the scoop (via Curtis) for this Sunday: >(pray for no rain!!) > >- Jeannette > >Let's meet at >around 10:30-leave at 11:00. We can meet at McDonalds or the CVS we met >at last time. Across from Beacon Mall. > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 16:07:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA22260; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08014; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:06:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA25059; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:06:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-217-247.pitb.grid.net [207.205.217.247]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA05939; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:06:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980304160759.006a3bb0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 16:07:59 -0500 To: "Collin T. Fagan" From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: Arlington Electronic and beautiful ride Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980304123933.0075fecc@pop.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Collin, Arlington Electronics 703-524-4337 703-243-6914 Fax By the way, to all you office-bound folks, my apologies, but today was a fantastic riding day. I looped through Clarksville, then did a few runs on Union Chapel, Daisy, and Jennings Chapel roads, then headed north through Sykesville. Although there were a few raindrops here and there, overall it was sunny and beautiful. Again... sorry. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 18:47:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA25546; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA12271; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:46:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA00453; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:46:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA14755; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON ([207.152.142.55]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA11120; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:45:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "Ken Woods" Cc: "Mike Metcalf" , "Dave Hunt" , , "DC Cycles" , "ZX Mailing List" Subject: Re: '95 ZX11D $ALE Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:45:38 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd47c7$a2277200$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 >.............are you asking for the zx11??? >Just curious. 1995 Kawasaki ZX-11D dyno'd at 136 rear wheel horsepower $6800 including the muzzy titanium exhaust, corbin gunfighter seat with lady attachment (removable), two Givi hard luggage cases with brackets (removable), two shoei matching painted helmets, and a brand new cover (although I cover it in the garage this bike has never stayed outside). The muzzy exhaust was $1000 and the Givi bag about the same, the cover is worth $100 and the helmets are X8-Air's with custom matching paint I have about $600 in those. The bike also has a Scoripo alarm system ($300) and it's in mint condition (obviously). That's about $14,000 invested, not including meticulous maintenance using all synthetic fluids every time. New Battlax BT-57 tires, chain, sprockets, K&N filter, smoked screen, etc. Also will include a full Chatterbox system with rider and passenger attachments ($200). $6800 for everything is a steal considering just the bike alone is identical to a '98 model which runs $11,000.00 new. My bike has low mileage and still under factory warranty. Must sell, buying a house (hopefully). Located in Herndon VA if you want to see this incredible deal. -Bergie 703-968-3023 (W) 703-793-3863 (H) until 9pm PS: still have all the original parts including factory exhaust, seat, windscreen, air filter, etc. The Muzzy exhaust is 40lbs lighter than stock! This bike rocks! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 4 19:15:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA26332; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:15:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12739; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:14:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel8.mindspring.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA01522; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomzell (Pool-207-205-218-189.pitb.grid.net [207.205.218.189]) by camel8.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA21782 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:14:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980304191217.006a270c@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: zellto@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 19:12:17 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Thomas W. Zell" Subject: Non-Moto---FS: Computer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey folks! I'm in need of some cash so I'm in the process of liquidating my inventory of things that I do not need of which one of these things is my computer(I have a couple at work to bring home for work and play).......... Custom Built PC 12/97 Excellent... Pentium Pro / Pentium II performance with all the goodies! $2300 or best offer Pass the word please!!! Specs: Tyan Titan Turbo AT motherboard 512k PB cache AMD 233MHz processor 64 MB EDO RAM ATI Rage II 4 MB 3D PCI graphics card Adaptec AHA-2940 SCSI-2 PCI controller 4.3 GB FAST/SCSI-2 hard disk 1.44 MB 3.5" floppy drive 100 MB Iomega zip-drive 8x NEC IDE CD-ROM Sound Blaster 16 Vibra PnP card Labtec LCS-800 speakers US Robotics 28.8 external modem Tatung 15" SVGA monitor w/anti-glare screen Microsoft serial mouse Windows 95 Office 97 Professional Microsoft Plus! Jedi Knight Quake/Quake II Diablo Nascar Racing 2 plus lot's more Please respond to me off list at both addresses... zellto@XXXXXX zell@XXXXXX Thanks! -Tom From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 00:11:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00087; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:11:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15171; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:11:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA07322; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:10:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA18041; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:06:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:00:29 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: FS: 400cc Honda Motorcycle To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980304143637.0090b210@hazmat.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Matthew J. Bennett wrote: > Here's what I know about this motorcycle (and all I know): > 400CC Honda > 2 cylinder (99% sure) > probably early 80's Sounds like a Hawk.Standard/sporty twins.Had the first three valve heads and power chamber exhaust.Avoid the Hondamatic version like the plague;parts are hard to come by and the auto tranny sucks up most of the power. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 00:37:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00359; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15560; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA07748; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:37:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.45] (unverified [207.226.128.45]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 00:36:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: picking up the VFR Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 00:37:16 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Jinn Sinn" , , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >If you had picked the right girl, I'm sure getting the bike WOULD be the >new priority. > >-George>> > >OUCH! Careful there George! Too late. Already got put in my place bright and early this morning:) -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 00:37:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00364; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15564; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA07752; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:37:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.45] (unverified [207.226.128.45]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 00:36:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Camping to Deal's Gap Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 00:37:21 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Todd Peer" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >All you other campers, am I missing anything (necessary items)? I don't know about missing items, but you placed clean underwear WAY too low on the priority list. Hey, if anybody gets lost, just sniff out Todd! ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 00:59:31 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00513; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:59:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15682; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:59:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA07969; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 00:59:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id BAA22724; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:06:45 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:06:44 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: "Gil M. Nissley" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: FS: 400cc Honda Motorcycle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Gil M. Nissley wrote: > > Sounds like a Hawk.Standard/sporty twins.Had the first three valve > heads and power chamber exhaust.Avoid the Hondamatic version like the > plague;parts are hard to come by and the auto tranny sucks up most > of the power. Beg to differ: most non-engine (and some engine) parts of the automatic interchange with other Honda 400 Hawks, I think. And it's an excellent city bike, especially for stop-and-go traffic. I completely agree with you about the lack of power, and would not recommend it for high-speed roads, but it's my favorite bike for so-called "rush" hour in D.C. --garcia From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 01:26:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA00738; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:26:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA15976; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA08214; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA18518; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:22:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:13:01 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: FS: 400cc Honda Motorcycle To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Garcia Oliver wrote: > Beg to differ: most non-engine (and some engine) parts of the automatic > interchange with other Honda 400 Hawks, I think. The engine parts are the important ones.In a pinch,you can use any headlight or modify a seat.That auto tranny goes,you're hating it. > And it's an excellent > city bike, especially for stop-and-go traffic. I completely agree with > you about the lack of power, and would not recommend it for high-speed > roads, but it's my favorite bike for so-called "rush" hour in D.C. I hate automatics.Think they should be outlawed for everyone who's not handicapped.It's been my experience that they encourage bad driving habits among the cager set.No reason not to learn the proper use of a clutch. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 01:27:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA00749; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:27:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA15986; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA08240; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id BAA25171; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:34:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:34:54 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: Morris Berman cc: "Cycles, DC -- DC Cycles" Subject: Re: GS650 Help Request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ah, a fellow capaccess victim! On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Morris Berman wrote: > Well, I was able to pull off the carb rack last night (after borrowing an > impact driver). I have never worked on Mikuni's before (actually, I've > done VERY little carb work at all myself). What would you need an impact driver for? There's no need (most of the time) to separate the 4 carbs from their common rack. Hope you didn't do it. > > I got the float bowls off, > the gaskets appear to be in good shape, do I need to replace them > anyway? No. Should just dab a tiny bit of glue goo on them and reassemble > when the time comes? > No. But if you need to reuse a damaged carb float-bowl gasket, don't even think of using RTV rubber (Silicon seal). Try a very thin layer of Permatex #2 (tube) or (better) Permatex aviation gasket (brushed liquid) or similar, that specifies ok for gasoline. > I pulled the floats out and float needle. Should I pull out the float > valve seat? Not unless you intend to replace it. Can be cleaned wo removal. I can't figure out how to do it, it doesn't easily pull out > after I removed the hold down screw. It's a press-fit with a sealing o-ring. Brute force will do it, but be prepared to replace the o-ring. Better to leave it alone unless it won't seal. Can I pull off the top covers w/o > damaging the diaphragms Sure, if you're careful. or do you think that I'll have to replace those > too if I pull the cover? --garcia From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 01:33:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA00797; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA16069; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA08317; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.45] (unverified [207.226.128.45]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 01:32:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: New WV Dining options... Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 01:33:35 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Jason Howell" , "Mom" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Found this on Motorcycle.online: -George > > Good news for hungry bikers. The West Virginia legislature is > considering a law that would allow the immediate consumption >of road > kill. Current law allows consuming road kill only after first > contacting state authorities. "This can take hours and the >thing's > spoiled by then," said sponsoring Senator Leonard Anderson. >Yum, > fresh-squashed squirrel. That's mighty fine eatin'! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 05:54:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA02748; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:54:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA18126; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:54:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA11058; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:54:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id FAA20042; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:49:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:44:56 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Real Biker. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey all, Remember that discussion we had awhile back about what makes a real biker?Talked to my dad yesterday.He pinched a nerve in his right leg(episial nerve or summat) and now depending on how he bends his leg he feels alot of pain.But guess what?He found out that he can still kickstart all of his bikes,including his XL600,without any probs! This is the same dude who rode his bike to the hospital with a broken ankle,then after getting a cast strapped the crutches to his sissy bar and rode home. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 08:20:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03568; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:20:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19283; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA12276; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A6344990238; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 08:18:44 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980305075138.009c6b60@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 07:51:38 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: FS: 400cc Honda Motorcycle In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:13 AM 3/5/98 +45722824, Gil M. Nissley wrote: >> And it's an excellent >> city bike, especially for stop-and-go traffic. I completely agree with >> you about the lack of power, and would not recommend it for high-speed >> roads, but it's my favorite bike for so-called "rush" hour in D.C. > > I hate automatics.Think they should be outlawed for everyone who's >not handicapped.It's been my experience that they encourage bad driving >habits among the cager set.No reason not to learn the proper use of a >clutch. I'll remember that the next time my left hand or left leg begins to cramp from an hour of continuous clutch use in bumper-to-bumper traffic! Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 08:34:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03691; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:34:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19340; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:34:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from att.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA12438; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by kcgw2.att.com; Thu Mar 5 07:16 CST 1998 Received: from dcn72.dcn.att.com (dcn72.dcn.att.com [135.44.192.2]) by kcig2.att.att.com (AT&T/GW-1.0) with SMTP id HAA07227 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:33:10 -0600 (CST) Received: by dcn72.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4811.83086010@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:34:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Ride on Sunday? Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:34:27 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a bit confused since I just got back from Daytona yesterday and because I am in digest mode. Is everybody meeting on Sunday to ride and then go camping -OR- are some people camping and then meeting up with others on Sunday? Thanks. John Carver '98 VFR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 08:41:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03811; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:41:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19388; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA12650; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id FAA18995; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:41:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id FAA17045; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:41:01 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id FAA17042; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:41:01 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD47F9.3F2AA4B0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:40:46 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Getting hit by stuff while riding Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 05:37:07 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 33 TEXT Hi everybody! I was hit with my first foreign object (other than bugs) last night. A trucker flung a cigarette butt at me and it hit me squarely on the shin. (Didn't think something that little would have such impact.) I'm certain he was aiming for me because we had been riding near each other for about 10 miles and I was never in his blind spot so he must have know I was around. Plus it was late and there were only one or two more cars around. Anyway, all I could muster was a nasty look as I sped away and hurried to my exit. Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" stories to share? Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. [SMTP:hgg@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 7:27 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Motorcycle Camping > > For those interested, the BMW MOA has been building a motorcycle camping >page: > >http://www.bmwmoa.org/camping/index.htm > > It's still under construction, but already has some useful info and links. > >Harry >Bethesda, MD >'97 BMW R1100RT >http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm >"The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 08:53:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03905; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:53:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19521; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA12874; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:53:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA22569; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:55:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:55:18 -0500 (EST) From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: Women in Sport Touring List , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Short Bikers' List" Subject: MSF ERC for electronic Denizens (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is still some room in the MSF ERC that I am organizing for electronic riders in the General area of DC. Information follows. The course is on: Sunday June 14, 1998 They are all day, 8 - 6 I think. They are held at Northern Virginia Community College in Sterling Virginia, but you do not have to be a Virginia Resident to come. You MUST bring your own bike, helmet, jacket, gloves, and wear boots that support the ankles. One of them, I've asked for the 14th, cause that is when I am going, will be taught by our own Tim Morrow. ********* The classes cost $55. To sign up, send me the following information: A check for $55 made out to NVCC (Date it April 1: That's when I'll send them in.) Your Name, address, home and work phone Your social security number* Which date you want! You can mail them to me at Julie Holm 9617 Verdict Drive Vienna, VA 22181. Also send me an e-mail to let me know to look for the check. No hurry except that I'll fill the classes AS I GET CHECKS. First paid, first served. I'll send you an e-mail to let you know you are in. If you have any questions, e-mail me or call (703) 938-0435 See you there! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 08:55:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03931; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19534; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:55:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA12923; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:55:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id HAA20412; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:54:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA32458; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:54:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980305135417.ZQGS27632@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:54:17 -0600 Message-ID: <34FEAE89.AAFFAF48@mci.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 08:54:17 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Howell CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Camping to Deal's Gap References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George Howell wrote: > > >All you other campers, am I missing anything (necessary items)? > > I don't know about missing items, but you placed clean underwear WAY too > low on the priority list. Hey, if anybody gets lost, just sniff out Todd! > Uh, I think I'll pass on that, thanks! :-) Dale (the Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 09:28:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04374; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19815; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13745; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.55] (unverified [207.226.128.55]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:27:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 09:28:27 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Viteri, Ursulina" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? No, but I've considered getting one of those gold wing cup holders to carry an empty soda can to heave when a cager does something stupid. -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 09:28:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04380; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19824; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13752; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com (oak.eainet.com [206.136.246.2]) by oak.eainet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA06339; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:28:12 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hartzler To: "Viteri, Ursulina" cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ursulina -- On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Viteri, Ursulina wrote, in part: > Hi everybody! > > I was hit with my first foreign object (other than bugs) last night. A > trucker flung a cigarette butt at me and it hit me squarely on the shin. Sorry to hear you were the victim of such a circumstance! Glad you made it to your exit OK. > I'm > certain he was aiming for me because we had been riding near each other > for about 10 miles and I was never in his blind spot You may be giving him too much credit. A person dim enough to throw a lit cig at anybody is also probably dim enough to overlook you entirely, or forget all about you when a new song comes on the radio. > Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? Just say NO to road rage. I don't think it's worth it. I suspect you're better off just taking a few deep breaths, and shrugging it off as that there are plenty of people out in public who are in very low places, for whatever reason. No need to join them down there. Be very careful what you do with negative energy, especially when you're in such a vulnerable spot. Cheers! Pete. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 09:31:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04422; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19840; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13822; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA02591 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:30:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA29748 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:30:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980305143051.CICQ27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:30:51 -0600 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:20 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: Helmets will kill you? X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980305143051.CICQ27160@[166.41.242.141]> This is NOT intended to incite a riot. But if you must, flame me privately. I walked into my local Giant Food this morning, carrying my helmet. I was looking over some gift wrap and this dirty looking dude in a long leather jacket comes up to me, pointing at my helmet and says, "Those things will break your neck. If you crash, you'll break your neck." Sound familiar? When I told him that was bullshit he said, "No, that's a fact." From whom? "Some german researcher." Who? Blank stare and quick diversion to how I should position myself when I crash. More bullshit! Does anyone have any serious, relevent data that would support the claim that a full-faced helmet will break your neck? And how likely is it to occur compared to what would surely happen if you were not wearing one (assuming your head comes in contact with the road or whatever during a get-off)? These claims ring in like the ones pot smokers make about the medicinal and textile qualities of hemp. "Make it legal so we can make wind sails, and clothes, and cure cancer [sic]."...."Repeal helmet laws so we can stop breaking our necks!" The guy reminded me of a born-again christian with all the answers, and he damn well was gonna let me know it. I wanted to drill him through the greeting cards. I told him that motorcycling is dangerous and to just get over it and he said to this effect that by not wearing a full-faced helmet (false sense of confidence) people wouldn't take as many risks while riding and probably wouldn't crash as often....sigh. Right through the birthday cards. Todd - an "Angry" pain in the neck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 09:38:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04505; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:38:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19910; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:38:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from drquest.digex.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13941; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.17.2.20 (pix000035.staff.digex.net [206.205.168.47]) by drquest.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA01903; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:37:21 -0500 X-Mailer: InterCon tcpCONNECT4 4.0.2 (Macintosh) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9803050939.AA18353@172.17.2.20> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:39:18 -0500 From: "Matt Elliott - DIGEX" To: "Viteri, Ursulina" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: Inline > "foreign object" stories to share? Ever throw anything back at > the offending vehicle?? just bullets... ;-) Matt From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 09:39:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04535; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:39:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19928; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:39:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13979; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13543; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 06:38:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FEB8AF.B8B224AA@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:37:36 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Viteri, Ursulina" CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > . Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" > stories to share? Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? > Ouchie stories: Be glad the cigarette only hit your shin. I've had one hit me right at the collar liine and go directly into the space between my coat and neck.... very unpleasant. Bees have also made for some interesting riding partners. Probably looked like i was drunk at the time, trying to find a way to get off the road and stopped in a hurry. Never follow in close pursuit of Ducatis!! I've found that for some odd reason, they tend to throw up debris worse than any other bike. Following a friends 750 Sport, he launched a rock, near golfball size, which found its way into my adams apple. It was all either of us could do to keep from crashing..him from the stone, me from the painful impact and nasty cut. Another friends 916 threw a similar sized rock which luckily hit my faceshield and not any part of me directly... destroyed the shield and scared the tar out of me, but no damage other than that. Never threw anything back other than dirty looks. Occasionally, I've given the vile offenders a nice dose of loud exhaust right next to them... specially if they're on a cell phone... I pull up next to em and feather the clutch enough to pull the revs up around 10k.. he he he...not the best thing on the clutch, but it gives a nice sense of revenge knowing that they couldn't hear jack on their car phone... CT From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 09:55:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04774; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:55:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20075; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:55:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA14358; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA27692; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:54:03 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C1507@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: BDCs & Close Calls... Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:54:30 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I was thoroughly enjoying my morning ride this morning (finally getting some speed on Route 50), when this lady decides to switch from the center lane to the left in front of me (I was behind her in the center lane). Fine. I start to pass her on the right & I'm right next to her & she decides - OOPS - I want to go back where I was!! DUH She doesn't even look & luckily sees me at the last second & swerves back in her lane. I had the room to move quickly to my right if I needed to (I noticed her dumbass move & noted my escape routes) but it did scare me. I figured out that I am a non-panic yeller. I yelled into my helmet all the while checking where the hell I could escape to... Beware the evil cagers!! - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 09:57:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04797; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20089; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA14404; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:57:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from MJordan666@XXXXXX by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1AWYa26882 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:57:03 -0500 (EST) From: MJordan666 Message-ID: <7cb74058.34febd41@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:57:03 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 56 In a message dated 98-03-05 09:13:23 EST, ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX writes: >Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" stories to share? Whilst riding into work a few years back, I felt something hit my foot - 'twas dark, and I couldn't see anything and there seemed to be no problems, so I continued on. When I left work that afternoon, I threw a leg over my scoot (SRX-6), reached down to flip out the kickstarter, and guess what... Good thing my office is at the top of a small hill. 85 bucks for a kickstart lever :-( >Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle< I used to carry a 24 oz ball peen hammer when I was stationed in Saigon. Seemed to work, 'cause after a few months cars started to give me room - the absolutely WORST drivers I have ever had to cope with - worse than me, even... Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:03:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04901; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:03:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20198; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA14609; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from MJordan666@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1KXYa28606 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:02:34 -0500 (EST) From: MJordan666 Message-ID: <2134f359.34febe8c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:02:34 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Helmets will kill you? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 56 A helmet CAN kill you - it's a fact. If struck by a helmet going fast enough, you can suffer severe injury and possibly die. ALWAYS look both ways before exiting a doorway for speeding helmets. On another subject, my personal experence in selecting the appropriate body position for a crash is that the crash is uaually over with before I have the time to analyze the probable trajectory. Body position just sorta happens. Michael (feeling somewhat argumentative this morning) Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:07:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04967; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:07:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20276; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:07:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA14763; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1LYGa15727 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:07:08 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE Message-ID: <53b0d26f.34febf9e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:07:08 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 >> . Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" >> stories to share? Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? apple core, a bird, a cassette tape, cigarettes, cardboard... But the best one: When I was still living in the San Francisco area, I got summoned to a family reunion. Since it was near my oldest brother's house in Placerville, about 150 miles away, I decided to ride to his place and tag along with him and his family. When I got there, he said, "it's a really nice day, let's go on your bike." He dragged up some decrepit open-face helmet (you can't lecture big brothers) from when he had a bike 20 years earlier and hopped on the back. I was a bit surprised that he would publicly ride on the back of his kid sister's bike, but off we went. It was more than a nice day - it was scorching hot. I snapped open the collar of my jacket. When we were about five miles away from the reunion spot, a bee or a wasp or some other stinging insect hit me right at the base of my neck, in the little hollow between collarbones, and stung me. I nearly passed out from pain. It was a struggle to keep my eyes open and my hands on the bars. But I kept riding and tried not to flinch, because I didn't want my brother to be on my case for the rest of the day for being a wimp. We got there and I took off my jacket and helmet. I had a huge welt on my neck. I looked at Tom to explain why I had been riding so badly, and saw that he had a giant welt on his face. Turns out a bee or a wasp or some other stinging insect had hit him while we were riding and he didn't say anything because he was afraid I would laugh at him.... Colleen From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:20:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05208; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20509; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:20:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15102; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23678 invoked by alias); 5 Mar 1998 15:19:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 23667 invoked from network); 5 Mar 1998 15:19:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jywon.imi?dc) (12.3.130.190) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 1998 15:19:54 -0000 Message-ID: <001f01bd484a$233caa40$be82030c@jywon.imi_dc> Reply-To: "Justin Won" From: "Justin Won" To: "DC Cycles List" Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:18:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I once got hit in the head by a piece of tire rubber. Damn near took my helmet off. Fortunately, I saw it coming and started to turn and duck my head. It probably would have shattered my faceshield if I hadn't. Another time a huge wet leaf (I think it was maple) landed right on my faceshield and stuck there. It was quite a harrowing experience, riding blind for those few brief moments. The worst offenders in the road debris dept are those damn dumptrucks that drop gravel and rocks in the road behind them as they're tooling along in the left lane. I swear, they must be hired by windshield repair companies to do that! Justin -----Original Message----- From: Viteri, Ursulina To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Date: Thursday, March 05, 1998 8:13 AM Subject: Getting hit by stuff while riding >Hi everybody! > >I was hit with my first foreign object (other than bugs) last night. A >trucker flung a cigarette butt at me and it hit me squarely on the shin. > (Didn't think something that little would have such impact.) I'm >certain he was aiming for me because we had been riding near each other >for about 10 miles and I was never in his blind spot so he must have >know I was around. Plus it was late and there were only one or two more >cars around. Anyway, all I could muster was a nasty look as I sped away >and hurried to my exit. Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" >stories to share? Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? > >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. [SMTP:hgg@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 7:27 AM >>To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >>Subject: Motorcycle Camping >> >> For those interested, the BMW MOA has been building a motorcycle camping >>page: >> >>http://www.bmwmoa.org/camping/index.htm >> >> It's still under construction, but already has some useful info and links. >> >>Harry >>Bethesda, MD >>'97 BMW R1100RT >>http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm >>"The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:22:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05245; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20523; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:22:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15164; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A3131B00682; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:21:55 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980305101742.009cdd20@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:17:42 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:37 AM 3/5/98 -0800, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: >I was hit with my first foreign object (other than bugs) last night. A >trucker flung a cigarette butt at me and it hit me squarely on the shin. > (Didn't think something that little would have such impact.) I'm >certain he was aiming for me because we had been riding near each other >for about 10 miles and I was never in his blind spot so he must have >know I was around. Plus it was late and there were only one or two more >cars around. Anyway, all I could muster was a nasty look as I sped away >and hurried to my exit. Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" >stories to share? Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? It might really not have been deliberate. Many cigarette users are notoriously unconcerned with people around them I've caught cigarette butts on the bike, been burned by cigarettes that users hold while walking (while I was just walking down the street). I yielded one time to a lady, got a smile for my thanks, then caught the cigarette she threw out the window 10 seconds later. Few cigarette users, in my opinion, actually consider that they're throwing trash out the window. Burning trash, in fact. never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:22:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05249; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:22:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20529; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:22:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15168; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:22:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A3141B00682; Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:21:56 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980305102230.009d0c40@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:22:30 -0500 To: dc-cycles From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Helmets will kill you? In-Reply-To: <19980305143051.CICQ27160@[166.41.242.141]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:20 AM 3/5/98 -0500, Todd Peer wrote: >Does anyone have any serious, relevent data that would support the >claim that a full-faced helmet will break your neck? No. In fact, there's quite a lot of data to show that helmet use does not increase the rate or seriousness of neck injuries. NHTSA would have studies like this, and I think the Univ of NC (Chapel Hill?) has done a lot of helmet studies. >And how likely >is it to occur compared to what would surely happen if you were not >wearing one (assuming your head comes in contact with the road or whatever >during a get-off)? Hard to say. The research can't do much more than compare neck injuries to all helmeted riders and neck injuries to all un-helmeted riders (controlled for severity of crash). Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:31:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05401; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20815; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15373; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1QKDa02917 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:30:29 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <67634d81.34fec517@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:30:29 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: BDCs & Close Calls... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/5/98 10:09:21 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: <> I too, rode behind an evil, sudden-lane-changes-are-FUN-cager-demon this morning ... it was very exciting ... especially as it was on the twists and turns of 2 lane Rock Creek Parkway ... nothing like cager-dodging to wake my @$$ up! Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:33:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05447; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:33:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20938; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15423; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:33:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1JGKa15727 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:33:02 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:33:02 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 > Fortunately, I saw it coming and started to turn and duck my >head. It probably would have shattered my faceshield if I hadn't. maybe not. Once the deviant mechanics at a Honda shop where I used to work took some old helmets out in the back and shot at them with a 22. Verdict: Shoei faceshields deflect bullets, at least small ones. Colleen From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:35:02 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05506; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:35:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21049; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:34:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15454; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:34:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1WVCa28612 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:34:22 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:34:22 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/5/98 10:30:10 AM, cnorloff@XXXXXX wrote: <> yes....most people are too stupid to be malicious ;D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:51:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05911; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21541; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16139; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:51:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4824.73737190@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:50:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: Getting hit by stuff while riding Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:50:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 59 TEXT Never threw anything back because it was not their fault that it hit me. I've been hit be lots of things - one thing in particular was when I was following a sod truck - got hit in the head with a loose piece of sod - broke my sheild on my 3-quaters helmet and covered me in dirt. Very exciting to say the least. Dale has sprayed me with gravel when following him on his bike - also have been hit with garbage from an uncovered load near the Prince William County dump on RT. 234. Tracy Tracy Horstman Suzuki Savage 650 "Users can be friends of the system administrator, but they will never be able to be a peer." ---------- From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 8:37 AM To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: Getting hit by stuff while riding Hi everybody! I was hit with my first foreign object (other than bugs) last night. A trucker flung a cigarette butt at me and it hit me squarely on the shin. (Didn't think something that little would have such impact.) I'm certain he was aiming for me because we had been riding near each other for about 10 miles and I was never in his blind spot so he must have know I was around. Plus it was late and there were only one or two more cars around. Anyway, all I could muster was a nasty look as I sped away and hurried to my exit. Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" stories to share? Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. [SMTP:hgg@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 7:27 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Motorcycle Camping > > For those interested, the BMW MOA has been building a motorcycle camping >page: > >http://www.bmwmoa.org/camping/index.htm > > It's still under construction, but already has some useful info and links. > >Harry >Bethesda, MD >'97 BMW R1100RT >http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm >"The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 10:58:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06285; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21928; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:57:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16751; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:57:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA18413; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA09535; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:57:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980305155710.NDNA4928@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:57:10 -0500 Message-ID: <34FECB53.DE74316@mci.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:57:07 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MotorLE CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MotorLE wrote: Once the deviant mechanics at a Honda shop where I used to work > took some old helmets out in the back and shot at them with a 22. Verdict: > Shoei faceshields deflect bullets, at least small ones. > > Colleen Great. My faceshield will deflect bullets, but you can scratch it with a wet marshmallow. Hmm... Wonder what the design specs were for that thing? Dale (the Horkster) Shoei RF-108V From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:05:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06550; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:05:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA22608; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17121; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:04:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1LMGa09367 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:04:23 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <3f74a5ea.34fecd09@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:04:23 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/5/98 10:41:02 AM, MotorLE@XXXXXX wrote: <> hee hee, having a "Shoei-head" I feel MUCH safer now riding through the bad parts of town ;D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:07:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06605; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA22725; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:07:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17232; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id PQYFa03502; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:02:07 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:02:07 EST To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 >Great. My faceshield will deflect bullets, but you can >scratch it with a wet marshmallow. Hmm... Wonder what >the design specs were for that thing? Well, it didn't look great after it got shot. It didn't look great before it got shot. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:14:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06767; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA23098; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17598; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12068; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:13:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FECF0C.6CBAB75D@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 11:13:01 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Helmets will kill you? References: <19980305143051.CICQ27160@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Peer wrote: > Does anyone have any serious, relevent data that would support the > claim that a full-faced helmet will break your neck? And how likely > is it to occur compared to what would surely happen if you were not > wearing one (assuming your head comes in contact with the road or whatever > during a get-off)? Todd,My harley ridin office mate (who happens to wear a full face helmet) had some info that showed that the only time severe neck injuries occurred with full face helmets was when you land directly on your chin in a serious face plant. The info also had impact statistics showing that something like <1% of the documented impacts were on the chin.... So my read on this is that the "that'll break your neck" argument is crap. CT From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:14:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06774; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA23124; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17607; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19145; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON (bergie@[207.152.142.55]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA20277; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "Meier, Christopher" Cc: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: '95 ZX11D $ALE Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:14:29 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4851$c675c640$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 No not true, just for this summer. Still keeping my Dainese leathers, boots, gloves, etc. I have about $1500 in those so I don't plan on getting out just yet. Since my bike is paid off, it's a source of equity that must go unfortunately for now, but I'll be back next summer, probably with a new R1 with overbore kit! -Berg -----Original Message----- From: Meier, Christopher To: 'Bergie Frazier Jr' Date: Thursday, March 05, 1998 7:44 AM Subject: RE: '95 ZX11D $ALE >Bergie, > >It sounds from the "laundry list" as if you are getting out of >motorcycling ... say it ain't so? > >--chris >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >------------ >Christopher A. Meier >meierch@XXXXXX >Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA >1994 RF900R AMA #470094 >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >------------ > > >> ---------- >> From: Bergie Frazier Jr[SMTP:bergie@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 1998 6:45 PM >> To: Ken Woods >> Cc: Mike Metcalf; Dave Hunt; Charles_Swan@XXXXXX; DC Cycles; ZX >> Mailing List >> Subject: Re: '95 ZX11D $ALE >> >> >.............are you asking for the zx11??? >> >Just curious. >> >> 1995 Kawasaki ZX-11D dyno'd at 136 rear wheel horsepower >> $6800 including the muzzy titanium exhaust, corbin gunfighter >> seat with lady attachment (removable), two Givi hard luggage >> cases with brackets (removable), two shoei matching painted >> helmets, and a brand new cover (although I cover it in the garage >> this bike has never stayed outside). The muzzy exhaust was $1000 and >> the Givi bag about the same, the cover is worth $100 and the >> helmets are X8-Air's with custom matching paint I have about >> $600 in those. The bike also has a Scoripo alarm system ($300) >> and it's in mint condition (obviously). That's about $14,000 >> invested, not including meticulous maintenance using all >> synthetic fluids every time. New Battlax BT-57 tires, chain, >> sprockets, >> K&N filter, smoked screen, etc. Also will include a full Chatterbox >> system with rider and passenger attachments ($200). >> >> $6800 for everything is a steal considering just the bike alone >> is identical to a '98 model which runs $11,000.00 new. My bike >> has low mileage and still under factory warranty. >> >> Must sell, buying a house (hopefully). Located in Herndon VA >> if you want to see this incredible deal. >> -Bergie >> 703-968-3023 (W) >> 703-793-3863 (H) until 9pm >> >> PS: still have all the original parts including factory exhaust, >> seat, windscreen, air filter, etc. The Muzzy exhaust is 40lbs >> lighter than stock! This bike rocks! >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:41:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07650; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24372; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:41:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19190; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:41:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1PEUa16812 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:40:39 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <3788f7f4.34fed589@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:40:39 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 "suggest to them that we meet at "krispy kream" donuts! it's just a few doors down. there's plenty of parking spaces and we can get there earlier and fill up on sugar!! what say you? i know you're not crazy about them, but they have great donuts and coffee" from a friend of mine who's going to join us (yes, Jeannette it's the boy ;D ) any takers? and yes, I know I'm playing with fire suggesting an alternate location at this late date :D:D:D:D:D:D but DONUTS just sound SO VERY tempting :D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:52:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07839; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24692; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:52:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19661; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:52:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA22228; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:50:52 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C151F@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:51:20 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain OOH YUM!! What does everyone else think??!! I'm in. Hopefully the sign will declare "Hot Donuts Now" as we arrive... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:41 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place > > "suggest to them that we meet at "krispy kream" donuts! it's just a > few doors > down. there's plenty of parking spaces and we can get there earlier > and fill > up on sugar!! what say you? i know you're not crazy about them, but > they > have great donuts and coffee" > > from a friend of mine who's going to join us (yes, Jeannette it's the > boy ;D > ) > any takers? > > and yes, I know I'm playing with fire suggesting an alternate location > at this > late date :D:D:D:D:D:D but DONUTS just sound SO VERY tempting :D > > Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:56:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07886; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24841; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:56:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19813; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19741; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:56:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON ([207.152.142.55]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01834; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:53:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "Lester Gilley" , "David Yates" , "DC Cycles" Subject: MIR Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:53:29 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4857$39093020$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 If anyone is interested in tagging along or meeting me, I'll be going to Maryland International Raceway this coming Sunday (March 8th) for Test 'n Tune 1/4-mile drag event. So far: Bergie ZX11, Rich CBR900RR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:57:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07905; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24867; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19857; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:57:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA02711; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:33 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:58:34 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What nerve!!! Just kidding. We can meet their and ride past Rite Aid when we start, by chance somebody does not get this message. Need direction, ask Marcy. Curtis ---------- From: Jinn Sinn[SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:41 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place "suggest to them that we meet at "krispy kream" donuts! it's just a few doors down. there's plenty of parking spaces and we can get there earlier and fill up on sugar!! what say you? i know you're not crazy about them, but they have great donuts and coffee" from a friend of mine who's going to join us (yes, Jeannette it's the boy ;D ) any takers? and yes, I know I'm playing with fire suggesting an alternate location at this late date :D:D:D:D:D:D but DONUTS just sound SO VERY tempting :D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 11:59:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07932; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24924; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:59:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19947; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:59:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD482D.667B80A0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:54:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:54:05 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ahhhh..... Donuts.......... (to the tune of Homer Simpson... a bit of a low flutter in the voice....) Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:41 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place > >"suggest to them that we meet at "krispy kream" donuts! it's just a few doors >down. there's plenty of parking spaces and we can get there earlier and fill >up on sugar!! what say you? i know you're not crazy about them, but they >have great donuts and coffee" > >from a friend of mine who's going to join us (yes, Jeannette it's the boy ;D >) >any takers? > >and yes, I know I'm playing with fire suggesting an alternate location at >this >late date :D:D:D:D:D:D but DONUTS just sound SO VERY tempting :D > >Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 12:04:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08018; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25121; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20120; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:03:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA02794; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:11:03 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:05:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeannette, you know everyone is going to meet where you and Marcy are. ---------- From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:51 AM To: 'Jinn Sinn'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place OOH YUM!! What does everyone else think??!! I'm in. Hopefully the sign will declare "Hot Donuts Now" as we arrive... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:41 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place > > "suggest to them that we meet at "krispy kream" donuts! it's just a > few doors > down. there's plenty of parking spaces and we can get there earlier > and fill > up on sugar!! what say you? i know you're not crazy about them, but > they > have great donuts and coffee" > > from a friend of mine who's going to join us (yes, Jeannette it's the > boy ;D > ) > any takers? > > and yes, I know I'm playing with fire suggesting an alternate location > at this > late date :D:D:D:D:D:D but DONUTS just sound SO VERY tempting :D > > Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 12:05:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08077; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:05:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25132; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20205; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id JAA07240; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id JAA21616; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:04:14 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id JAA21608; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:04:11 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4815.A10E8B80@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:03:56 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:00:20 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 41 TEXT Oh geez, well, I guess if you insist that we meet at a donut shop and even consume a few, I guess I'll just have to go along with it. Darn. Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 8:51 AM >To: 'Jinn Sinn'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place > >OOH YUM!! What does everyone else think??!! I'm in. Hopefully the >sign will declare "Hot Donuts Now" as we arrive... > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:41 AM >> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place >> >> "suggest to them that we meet at "krispy kream" donuts! it's just a >> few doors >> down. there's plenty of parking spaces and we can get there earlier >> and fill >> up on sugar!! what say you? i know you're not crazy about them, but >> they >> have great donuts and coffee" >> >> from a friend of mine who's going to join us (yes, Jeannette it's the >> boy ;D >> ) >> any takers? >> >> and yes, I know I'm playing with fire suggesting an alternate location >> at this >> late date :D:D:D:D:D:D but DONUTS just sound SO VERY tempting :D >> >> Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 12:07:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08119; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:07:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25201; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20270; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD482E.8949E9E0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:02:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:02:13 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And let's not forget to have a "ANTI-RAIN PROTEST!" In other words... let's pray for dry weather and lots of mistakes on the forecasters parts! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:51 AM >To: 'Jinn Sinn'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place > >OOH YUM!! What does everyone else think??!! I'm in. Hopefully the >sign will declare "Hot Donuts Now" as we arrive... > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:41 AM >> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place >> >> "suggest to them that we meet at "krispy kream" donuts! it's just a >> few doors >> down. there's plenty of parking spaces and we can get there earlier >> and fill >> up on sugar!! what say you? i know you're not crazy about them, but >> they >> have great donuts and coffee" >> >> from a friend of mine who's going to join us (yes, Jeannette it's the >> boy ;D >> ) >> any takers? >> >> and yes, I know I'm playing with fire suggesting an alternate location >> at this >> late date :D:D:D:D:D:D but DONUTS just sound SO VERY tempting :D >> >> Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 12:11:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08174; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:11:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25288; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20341; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:11:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA19987; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:11:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD482F.090CD2A0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:05:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: MIR Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:05:47 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I wasn't going on a ride Sunday I would drag my Pontiac up there (along with the VFR) to try and get some last 12 sec. passes outta her before I get rid of her... Have fun though! -Tom '86 VFR700/750F >-----Original Message----- >From: Bergie Frazier Jr [SMTP:bergie@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 11:53 AM >To: Lester Gilley; David Yates; DC Cycles >Subject: MIR > >If anyone is interested in tagging along or meeting me, >I'll be going to Maryland International Raceway this >coming Sunday (March 8th) for Test 'n Tune 1/4-mile >drag event. > >So far: Bergie ZX11, Rich CBR900RR > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 12:33:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08762; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25722; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA21438; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:33:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20336; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25870; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:33:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FEE1A1.F2A1A4DA@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:32:17 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bergie Frazier Jr CC: "Meier, Christopher" , DC Cycles Subject: Re: '95 ZX11D $ALE References: <01bd4851$c675c640$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bergie Frazier Jr wrote: > Since my bike is paid off, it's a source of equity > that must go unfortunately for now, but I'll be back > next summer, probably with a new R1 with overbore > kit! GEEZ, as if the R1 doesn't pack enough rear wheel ponies in stock form :) How big is the overbore kit and (I'm scared to ask) what kind of power does the beast put out?? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 12:43:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08948; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26255; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:43:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA21809; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:43:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20482; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:43:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON ([207.152.142.55]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA20065; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:43:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "Collin T. Fagan" Cc: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: '95 ZX11D $ALE Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:43:17 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd485e$2e62e240$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Well I'm not exactly sure on the power output of the R1 overbore, but I know a guy with a '97 YZF1000 who did it and went from 128 rear wheel to 147 rear wheel HP with the overbore kit and slight head work. The figures I've seen is that the R1 actually only puts down 130 rear wheel stock, about the same as the ZX9, so figure at least another 20 honest rear wheel horsepower with the kit on the R1, should make it a "real" 150hp bike, not the hype'd up nonsense the magazines advertise.. -----Original Message----- From: Collin T. Fagan To: Bergie Frazier Jr Cc: Meier, Christopher ; DC Cycles Date: Thursday, March 05, 1998 12:33 PM Subject: Re: '95 ZX11D $ALE > > >Bergie Frazier Jr wrote: > >> Since my bike is paid off, it's a source of equity >> that must go unfortunately for now, but I'll be back >> next summer, probably with a new R1 with overbore >> kit! > >GEEZ, as if the R1 doesn't pack enough rear wheel ponies in stock form :) >How big is the overbore kit and (I'm scared to ask) what kind of power does >the beast put out?? > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 13:26:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09574; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:26:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA28379; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA23066; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03365; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:26:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FEEE28.C0D7D69@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:25:44 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX wrote: > also have been hit with garbage from an uncovered load > near the Prince William County dump on RT. 234. > ick, garbage trucks and the like are definitely vehicles to give as much room as they want. A friend learned this all too well, following a flatbad hauling port-a-potties... Him and his wife got very soaked when one fell off right in front of them narrowly missing them... Better them than me... Collin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 13:44:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09774; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA28984; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA23682; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD483C.0F4FFD60@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:39:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Collin T. Fagan'" , "'Dc-Cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Getting hit by stuff while riding Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:39:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeeewwww... That's really nasty.... was it cleaned out with just water in it or was..... eeeww.... I don't even want to think about it! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Collin T. Fagan [SMTP:gixer@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 1:26 PM >To: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX >Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding > > > >tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX wrote: > >> also have been hit with garbage from an uncovered load >> near the Prince William County dump on RT. 234. >> > >ick, garbage trucks and the like are definitely vehicles to give as much room >as they want. >A friend learned this all too well, following a flatbad hauling >port-a-potties... Him and his wife got very soaked when one fell off right in >front of them narrowly missing them... Better them than me... >Collin > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 13:56:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09927; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29279; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:56:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24064; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:56:42 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.8 3-18-1997)) id 852565BE.0068458A ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:58:55 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: gixer@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565BE.0067C3F3.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:58:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Him and his wife got very soaked when one fell off right in front of them narrowly missing them... Better them than me... Collin Oh gee Collin. I just finished eating lunch. I'm glad I don't nauseate easily. Yuck! 8-) Steve From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 13:58:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09967; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:58:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29298; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:58:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24101; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:58:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id NAA15686; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:57:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA26631; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:57:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980305185734.BELG27632@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:57:34 -0600 Message-ID: <34FEF59B.1080CC73@mci.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 13:57:31 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KZ LTD List , VJMC List , DC Cycles List Subject: got my sprocket parts... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...and (gasp!) they are different from the old ones. Namely, new the front sprocket nut and washer from my 78 KZ 1000 LTD look different than the old ones that failed, so it might be a good thing. (I hope!) Instead of a normal flat washer with a tab that fit into a small hole in the sprocket, and another tab that bent up to hold the nut in place, the new washer fits into the splines on the sprocket shaft to (hopefully) hold it in place. No tab to hold onto the nut, though. And the new nut is wider (i.e. more threads) than the old one. Again hopefully to hold in place better. I'm assuming (hoping beyond hope) that these fit. Not sure yet, I picked them up at lunch and I'm still at work. It *looks* like they will fit, but I won't feel secure until I've got everthing in place. Anyone know for a certainty if Kawasaki did indeed redesign these two parts, or did my trusty shop screw up again ordering parts for "that big guy with the old bikes"? Anyway, Regards all. Hope some of you out there got to ride a real bike today. My wife's Suzuki Savage is killing me! Dale (the Horkster) 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 PS: While I was at the parts shop I got to watch as an older guy on with a nice late model goldwing plunked down $400 for some chrome trim on his saddlebags. Without a second thought. Oh, priorities. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 14:57:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA10982; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA00637; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25957; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id OAA16546 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:56:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA13227 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:56:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980305195613.QDOO4928@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:56:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 14:55 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: Take a break... X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980305195613.QDOO4928@[166.41.242.141]> Check this out! http://www.informanet.com/rainbandit/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 16:06:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA12696; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01771; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA29098; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:05:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD484F.CD650D50@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:00:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Todd Peer'" , "'dc-cycles'" Subject: RE: Take a break... Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:00:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting... Nice stuff.... but $250 for a motorcycle cover?? -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 2:55 PM >To: dc-cycles >Subject: Take a break... > >Check this out! > > http://www.informanet.com/rainbandit/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 16:26:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13161; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02020; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA00031; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:27 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA17313 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199803052126.AA17313@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:54 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:54 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:26:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:23:45 -0500 Subject: RE: Take a break... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p1)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="RE: Take a break..."; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="RE: Take a break..." look closer..it's a motorcycle cover WITH holes for your heads to poke out... I guess its for anyone who REALLY doesn't have the $$ to rent a hotel room when it's raining...I'd pay to see the riders fall off when they fall asleep! ;-) -aki > Interesting... Nice stuff.... but $250 for a motorcycle cover?? > > -Tom > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 2:55 PM > >To: dc-cycles > >Subject: Take a break... > > > >Check this out! > > > > http://www.informanet.com/rainbandit/ > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 16:42:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13662; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02265; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA00896; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id FJYFa10081; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:40:58 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <4c15515c.34ff1bec@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:40:58 EST To: ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/5/98 12:12:35 PM, ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX wrote: <> You better actually show up this time woman!!!!!! Grrrrrr! LOL ;D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 16:45:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13906; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02289; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:45:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01292; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:44:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id NAA20548; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id NAA27855; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:43:55 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id NAA27713; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:43:08 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD483C.881E0BB0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:42:25 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:38:49 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 23 TEXT Just try and keep me away from fresh donuts! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 1:41 PM >To: ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place > > >In a message dated 3/5/98 12:12:35 PM, ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX wrote: > ><even consume a few, I guess I'll just have to go along with it. Darn. >>> > >You better actually show up this time woman!!!!!! Grrrrrr! LOL > >;D > >Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 16:47:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13979; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:47:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02312; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01412; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA10019 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:46:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA16884 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980305214646.EOGB27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:46:46 -0600 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 16:42 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Take a break... X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980305214646.EOGB27160@[166.41.242.141]> I just thought it was funny to look at :-) T < Interesting... Nice stuff.... but $250 for a motorcycle cover?? > > -Tom > >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 16:51:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA14139; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02348; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:51:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01700; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:51:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id FCNHa10081; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:50:23 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <676384e0.34ff1e21@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:50:23 EST To: ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX, JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 DO-NUTS! DO-NUTS! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO slurp! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 16:54:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA14340; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:54:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02381; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:54:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02018; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA13060 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:53:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA01369 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:53:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980305215343.BZFL27632@XXXXXX> for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:53:43 -0600 Message-ID: <34FF1EE3.91FA511C@mci.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 16:53:39 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles List Subject: RE: Take a break... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >look closer..it's a motorcycle cover WITH holes for your heads >to poke out... >> Interesting... Nice stuff.... but $250 for a motorcycle cover?? >> I think it would be more useful if you could wear it while you rode the motorcycle. Why stop for rain otherwise? Imagine the stunned looks from cagers with that getup! LOL Dale (the Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 18:14:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA16020; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:14:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03094; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA04953; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:13:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from rdt.erols.com (207-172-87-111.s111.tnt6.brd.erols.com [207.172.87.111]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25013 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:13:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803052313.SAA25013@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Roy D. Turner" To: Subject: Saturday Ride? Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:12:31 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone interested in a group ride on Saturday? It appears the temp will be about 50 degrees w/ clouds. Sunday's forecast is for rain. Roy D. Turner, Esq. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 18:20:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA16163; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03127; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA05203; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27857 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:20:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34FF5E18.42CA@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 18:23:20 -0800 From: Rave X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: WTB - Touring Bike Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: tnetoff@XXXXXX (Theoden Ivan Netoff) Organization: The George Washington University Newsgroups: dc.forsale.misc, va.forsale, rec.motorcycles > > > I'm interested in buying a touring motorcycle. > > I want something that is reliable and in decent condition for a 2 week > long trip to drive around the U.S.. > > My budget is on the small side so I'm keeping away from the fancy bikes. > So I'm looking for something that has been sitting in someone's garage for > a few years and they are interested in unloading. > > I'm in the D.C. area and would appreciate any leads. > > Thanks, > > Tay > > tnetoff@XXXXXX The usual disclaimers apply... -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" - K. Marx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 18:27:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA16259; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03182; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA05336; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:27:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id VOSEa15729; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:24:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <3e7eef1e.34ff3430@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:24:30 EST To: rdt@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: SUNDAY WEATHER Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/5/98 6:22:19 PM, rdt@XXXXXX wrote: <> Everyone ......... CROSS YOUR FINGERS .... or your eyes, or your legs, or whatever'll keep it from raining! 8-) Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 18:53:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA16603; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03337; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA05888; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:53:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.64.238]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA19390; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:53:04 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "Roy D. Turner" , Subject: Re: Saturday Ride? Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:49:25 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4891$54234fa0$b04d440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 I think I'm kinda flexible. If sunday's gonna rain out, i can go on saturday, but I can't do both. later kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 18:57:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA16633; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:57:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03374; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA05984; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:57:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.64.238]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA23099; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:56:59 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: , Subject: Re: Aki's mail, was Take a break... Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:53:18 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4891$df7841a0$b04d440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Who besides me can't read Aki's mail lately? I get a blank message and an attachment with no file extension. So I just saved the attachment as a .txt file and was able to read it. Damn, I'm a computer genius, ain't I? Later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 19:19:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA16859; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:19:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA03605; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:19:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA06411; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id SAA00861 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:18:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id SAA05832 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:18:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.41.111.88]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980306001829.FBVQ27160@XXXXXX> for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:18:29 -0600 From: "Linda Tanner" To: "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Aki's mail, was Take a break... Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:18:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01bd4891$df7841a0$b04d440c@default> Message-Id: <19980306001829.FBVQ27160@LJTanner.mcit.com> I am also having problems with his mail... LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze -----Original Message----- From: kevin thomas [mailto:klthomas@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 6:53 PM To: aki.damme@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Aki's mail, was Take a break... Who besides me can't read Aki's mail lately? I get a blank message and an attachment with no file extension. So I just saved the attachment as a .txt file and was able to read it. Damn, I'm a computer genius, ain't I? Later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 20:04:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA17332; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA03953; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA07226; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from rdt.erols.com (207-172-121-104.s104.tnt15.brd.erols.com [207.172.121.104]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04523; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:04:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803060104.UAA04523@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Roy D. Turner" To: "kevin thomas" , Subject: Re: Saturday Ride? Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:03:27 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will check my EMail Friday evening to determine if there is consensus. Roy D. Turner, Esq. ---------- > From: kevin thomas > To: Roy D. Turner ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Saturday Ride? > Date: Thursday, March 05, 1998 6:49 PM > > I think I'm kinda flexible. If sunday's gonna rain out, i can go on > saturday, but I can't do both. > > later > kevin > > He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 5 20:32:22 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA17637; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA04468; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA07754; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:31:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from the-dilbernator (pooh-ppp.clark.net [168.143.1.54]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16390; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:31:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980305203205.006969e0@postoffice.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: true911@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 20:35:47 -0500 To: "kevin thomas" , , From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: Aki's mail, was Take a break... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ME! MET At 06:53 PM 3/5/1998 -0500, kevin thomas wrote: >Who besides me can't read Aki's mail lately? I get a blank message and an >attachment with no file extension. So I just saved the attachment as a .txt >file and was able to read it. Damn, I'm a computer genius, ain't I? --------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove Email: true@XXXXXX WWW: http://www.clark.net/pub.pooh ... playing around at work, like I shouldn't be ... --------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 04:06:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA22399; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:06:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA12222; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA15145; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:05:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA26249; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:01:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 03:50:45 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <34FEB8AF.B8B224AA@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > > . Anybody have any interesting "foreign object" > > stories to share? When I was learning to ride I would follow my dad.He liked to wear open face helmets.And he chews tobacco.Needless to say I got the "push right-go right,push left-go left" thing down quick. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 04:09:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA22409; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:09:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA12240; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:08:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA15185; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:08:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA26254; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:04:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 04:02:15 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, George Howell wrote: > >Ever throw anything back at the offending vehicle?? > No, but I've considered getting one of those gold wing cup holders to > carry an empty soda can to heave when a cager does something stupid. I carry odd nuts/bolts/bitsa in my pocket. Hey,Buells have been known to shed parts. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 07:08:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA23495; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA12792; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:06:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA16890; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:06:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26781 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:06:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20352 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:06:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803061206.HAA20352@shell.clark.net> Subject: Boxed in! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:06:37 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This morning as I approached my Concours, I saw to my horror that it was boxed in. On both sides, the cars were over the line and in my space. What was worse was that the car on the bike's left was way over. I leave the bike on the centerstand, and usually put it down on the side stand before getting on. There was no room for me to stand to put it on the sidestand, and with a full 7.5 gal fuel tank, I didn't want to try it from the other side. Besides, I'd probably bump mirrors or worse with the car there. It was about 3 inches away from the bike. Not a comfortable margin for error in my mind. I wound up taking the cage in today. First I tried stopping by the apartment security office, but no one was there. They aren't very strict on ticketing anyway. The car didn't have an apartment parking sticker so it's probably a visitor. I thought about writing a nasty note, but with me being gone all day, who knows what he/she might have done to the bike if he didn't appreciate the note. Anyone else have this kind of experience? What can be done? Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 07:08:48 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA23502; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:08:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA12799; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA16906; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:08:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD48CE.6F3A8190@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:06:50 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: Suggested Personal Equipment List for Camping Overnight Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:06:49 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 96 TEXT According to Girl Scouts: Health & Safety: * Medication - also let someone else know if you are allegeric to anything in case something happens * Whistle - 3 sharp blasts indicate emergency Basics: * Waterproof bag or duffel to carry gear * Waterbottle * Sit-upon * 5-8' rope * Flashlight, spare batteries * Plastic bags for wet/dirty things * Paper, pencil * Work gloves * Small stuffed friend (optional) * Jackknife * Whistle Add for Cold Weather: * Thermal underwear (preferably not cotton) * Warm hat that covers ears * Mittens/gloves For sleeping: * Blanket * Hat * Clean socks Sleeping Systems: * Water proof ground cloth * Insulation layer (closed cell foam pad, newspapers, exercise mat) * Sleeping bag, bedroll, sheet, blanket * Rope, 15' to tie bag/bedroll together * Pajamas (two pieces), sweatsuit * Small pillow or just a pillow case to be stuffed with extra clothes Eating Equipment: * Unbreakable bowl, plate, cup * Knife, spoon, fork (unbreakable) * Drip (net) bag, clothespin Clothing: - Essentials * Wear weather-appropriate clothing * Rain gear * Jacket, sweater, sweatshirt - note for bikers, you may not want the smell of a wood fire on your leathers * Bandanas (2) -Changes of Clothes * Underwear * Jeans, long pants, shorts * Shirts * Socks (knee socks useful for shorts) * Spare Shoes (not sandals) Toliet Kit * Toothbrush, toothpaste/baking soda * Washcloth, small towel, small soap * Brush, comb,nail file, safety pins * Mirror - metal, not glass * Tissues, petroleum jelly, lip balm * Non-aerosol bug repellant * Sun block * Small cup DO NOT BRING TO CAMP * Scented items - draws the bugs big time - especially bees * Gum, Candy - critters come to get it * Aerosol cans - hey we're Girl Scouts * Glass Containers - they alway break * One peice PJs or nightgowns - have to shuck off the one-peice to go potty and nightgowns offer no coverage Helpful Hints: * Those large jumbo storage bags are great. An adult my size can fit her jeans, shirt, panties, bra, socks in one bag - my outfit ready to and I have to bag to put my dirty clothes in - plus keeps things dry. * Dress in layers * Pack with first items on top * Reverse flashlight batteries in transit * When going to bed, put on the clean socks for the next day - keeps the feet warmer and you don't have to warm up you socks There's more from a Troop standpoint, but this is just for an individual - I can fit all of my stuff for 2 nights in a duffel bag. Hope this is helpful for some of you that have never been camping - you know how Girl Scouts are. Most of this is just common sense anyways. Tracy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 07:12:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA23523; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:12:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA12813; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:12:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA16932; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id FAA04956 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:18:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 05:18:04 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This thread went on the VF/VFR list a long time ago - and by far the funniest I read was a person traveling at a highway speed next to a school bus (opposite directions) and felt something akin to a punch in the chest - they looked down and found a cupcake in their lap... Personally, I've had to avoid fragged tires on Montana interstates at elivated speeds.. taught me not to follow closely behind vehicles which I couldn't see around - and the odd stinging bug down the shirt, stuck between the helmet liner and head.. etc.. Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:05:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24634; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15100; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:05:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA18696; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:05:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A27050370; Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:04:32 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980306090525.009dcc20@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:05:25 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Boxed in! In-Reply-To: <199803061206.HAA20352@shell.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:06 AM 3/6/98 -0500, Louis F. Caplan wrote: >This morning as I approached my Concours, I saw to my horror that >it was boxed in. On both sides, the cars were over the line and in >my space. What was worse was that the car on the bike's left was way over. >I leave the bike on the centerstand, and usually put it down on the >side stand before getting on. There was no room for me to stand >to put it on the sidestand, and with a full 7.5 gal fuel tank, I didn't want >to try it from the other side. Besides, I'd probably bump mirrors or >worse with the car there. It was about 3 inches away from the bike. >Not a comfortable margin for error in my mind. ... >Anyone else have this kind of experience? What can be done? I've had cars park so close on the right side (when the bike was on the sidestand) that I couldn't straighten up the bike to ride it out -- fortunately I was able to walk it while leaned over. I left a polite note on the car explaining what happened. Boxed in like you were, if I was facing out, I'd mount the bike on the centerstand, bump it down, then ride off. Parking the bike in a bike-sized spot would help, or maybe angling the bike within its own parking space (so even if the cagers park too close, it's close only on a corner). If the bike's or car's mirror is what's in the way I'd move the mirror. good luck, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:24:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24763; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:24:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15658; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19037; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA09805; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:30:53 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'rdt@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" Subject: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:24:52 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It does not seem like that is going to help. It's going to rain. Good choice of days Jeannette. ---------- From: Jinn Sinn[SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 6:25 PM To: rdt@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: SUNDAY WEATHER In a message dated 3/5/98 6:22:19 PM, rdt@XXXXXX wrote: <> Everyone ......... CROSS YOUR FINGERS .... or your eyes, or your legs, or whatever'll keep it from raining! 8-) Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:27:09 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24845; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:27:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15884; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:26:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19077; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:26:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA28653; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:25:34 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C1549@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Brian McCoy'" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Getting hit by stuff while riding Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:26:43 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I saw those posts on the VF/VFR list, too. I liked that story and the guy who got a bird stuck in his leg - beak first. He ended up getting off the bike (after stopping of course), running in pain while the bird flapped its wings trying to extricate himself. If anyone wants the stories, I've got them saved... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian McCoy [SMTP:bmccoy@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 5:18 AM > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Getting hit by stuff while riding > > This thread went on the VF/VFR list a long time ago - and by far the > funniest I read was a person traveling at a highway speed next to a > school > bus (opposite directions) and felt something akin to a punch in the > chest > - they looked down and found a cupcake in their lap... > > Personally, I've had to avoid fragged tires on Montana interstates at > elivated speeds.. taught me not to follow closely behind vehicles > which I > couldn't see around - and the odd stinging bug down the shirt, stuck > between the helmet liner and head.. etc.. > > Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) > bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) > bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) > 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? > www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:31:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24921; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:31:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16098; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19180; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id IAA26520; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:30:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA18166; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:30:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980306143017.DBDD27632@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:30:17 -0600 Message-ID: <3500087D.40B66AD2@mci.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 09:30:21 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Louis F. Caplan" CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Boxed in! References: <199803061206.HAA20352@shell.clark.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, the joys of having an old bike. I'd a scuffed the hell out of both cars if they were in the way of my bike. Problem is, my bike looks so bad, no one ever wants to park near me. Cagers. Harumph! Another Angry Biker, Horkster PS: Did you have much room in the front of your bike? I might have tried starting it up, rocking it off the center stand in 1st gear, and then trying to back out. Making sure to bump a mirror or two on the way out, of course! Louis F. Caplan wrote: > > This morning as I approached my Concours, I saw to my horror that > it was boxed in. On both sides, the cars were over the line and in > my space. What was worse was that the car on the bike's left was way over. > I leave the bike on the centerstand, and usually put it down on the > side stand before getting on. There was no room for me to stand > to put it on the sidestand, and with a full 7.5 gal fuel tank, I didn't want > to try it from the other side. Besides, I'd probably bump mirrors or > worse with the car there. It was about 3 inches away from the bike. > Not a comfortable margin for error in my mind. > > I wound up taking the cage in today. First I tried stopping by the > apartment security office, but no one was there. They aren't very > strict on ticketing anyway. The car didn't have an apartment parking > sticker so it's probably a visitor. I thought about writing a nasty > note, but with me being gone all day, who knows what he/she might have > done to the bike if he didn't appreciate the note. > > Anyone else have this kind of experience? What can be done? > > Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:40:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25053; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16391; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19374; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA03105; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:39:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:38:35 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C154A@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'rdt@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" Subject: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:39:44 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain You are so mean. Well, look at it this way, the forecasters have gotten it wrong the last TWO weekends. We'll hope for more of the same!! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 9:25 AM > To: 'rdt@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'Jinn Sinn' > Subject: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER > > It does not seem like that is going to help. It's going to rain. Good > choice of days Jeannette. > > ---------- > From: Jinn Sinn[SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 6:25 PM > To: rdt@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: SUNDAY WEATHER > > > In a message dated 3/5/98 6:22:19 PM, rdt@XXXXXX wrote: > > <> > > Everyone ......... CROSS YOUR FINGERS .... or your eyes, or your legs, > > or > whatever'll keep it from raining! 8-) > > Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:40:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25057; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:40:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16398; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:40:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19377; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:39:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD48E3.116BDEA0@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:34:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" Subject: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:34:30 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey... the forecasters have been pretty wrong when it's come to the weekends so far... let's keep our hopes up folks! Tom '86 VFR700/750F >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 9:25 AM >To: 'rdt@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'Jinn Sinn' >Subject: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER > >It does not seem like that is going to help. It's going to rain. Good >choice of days Jeannette. > >---------- >From: Jinn Sinn[SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 6:25 PM >To: rdt@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: SUNDAY WEATHER > > >In a message dated 3/5/98 6:22:19 PM, rdt@XXXXXX wrote: > ><> > >Everyone ......... CROSS YOUR FINGERS .... or your eyes, or your legs, >or >whatever'll keep it from raining! 8-) > >Marcy > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:42:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25120; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16456; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19402; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id GAA07557; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:41:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id GAA18440; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:41:15 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id GAA18434; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:41:14 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD48CA.DBC24EA0@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:41:14 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'rdt@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" Subject: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:37:22 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 32 TEXT Yeah, I heard a call for rain Sat night and all day Sunday. How about catching up with Roy turner and going on Saturday? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 6:25 AM >To: 'rdt@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'Jinn Sinn' >Subject: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER > >It does not seem like that is going to help. It's going to rain. Good >choice of days Jeannette. > >---------- >From: Jinn Sinn[SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 1998 6:25 PM >To: rdt@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: SUNDAY WEATHER > > >In a message dated 3/5/98 6:22:19 PM, rdt@XXXXXX wrote: > ><> > >Everyone ......... CROSS YOUR FINGERS .... or your eyes, or your legs, >or >whatever'll keep it from raining! 8-) > >Marcy > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 09:46:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25233; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16636; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:45:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19503; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:45:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD48E3.E13A43B0@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:40:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: Boxed in! Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:40:19 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With my trashed looking VFR I get the same results.... and I have no problem letting someone get what they deserve for parking inconsiderately.... wow... look at the scratch that bar-end left on there.... heh, heh, heh... Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 9:30 AM >To: Louis F. Caplan >Cc: DC Cycles List >Subject: Re: Boxed in! > >Oh, the joys of having an old bike. > >I'd a scuffed the hell out of both cars if >they were in the way of my bike. Problem is, >my bike looks so bad, no one ever wants to park >near me. > >Cagers. Harumph! > >Another Angry Biker, >Horkster > >PS: Did you have much room in the front of your bike? >I might have tried starting it up, rocking it off the center >stand in 1st gear, and then trying to back out. Making sure >to bump a mirror or two on the way out, of course! > > >Louis F. Caplan wrote: >> >> This morning as I approached my Concours, I saw to my horror that >> it was boxed in. On both sides, the cars were over the line and in >> my space. What was worse was that the car on the bike's left was way over. >> I leave the bike on the centerstand, and usually put it down on the >> side stand before getting on. There was no room for me to stand >> to put it on the sidestand, and with a full 7.5 gal fuel tank, I didn't >>want >> to try it from the other side. Besides, I'd probably bump mirrors or >> worse with the car there. It was about 3 inches away from the bike. >> Not a comfortable margin for error in my mind. >> >> I wound up taking the cage in today. First I tried stopping by the >> apartment security office, but no one was there. They aren't very >> strict on ticketing anyway. The car didn't have an apartment parking >> sticker so it's probably a visitor. I thought about writing a nasty >> note, but with me being gone all day, who knows what he/she might have >> done to the bike if he didn't appreciate the note. >> >> Anyone else have this kind of experience? What can be done? >> >> Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 10:28:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25775; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:28:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17937; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:28:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20808; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:28:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24428 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:28:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09741 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:28:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803061528.KAA09741@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: Boxed in! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:28:15 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > I'd a scuffed the hell out of both cars if > they were in the way of my bike. Problem is, > my bike looks so bad, no one ever wants to park > near me. > > Another Angry Biker, > Horkster > > PS: Did you have much room in the front of your bike? > I might have tried starting it up, rocking it off the center > stand in 1st gear, and then trying to back out. Making sure > to bump a mirror or two on the way out, of course! Some clarifications: 1) My bike is barely 5 months old... I don't want to beat it up yet. :-) 2) The way the car was positioned, the left fairing probably wouldn't make it pass the car without major scraping. 3) I park with my rear wheel against a curb so that I can run a cable from the wheel to a fence post (there was a bike stolen in '95) so I can only go in one direction. I like Chris' idea, and will try to park in a diagnal so I will have some more room to manoever. Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 10:45:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26113; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18185; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:44:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21360; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14984 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:44:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <350019CC.89F74D57@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 10:44:12 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: SUNDAY WEATHER References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We could always just sit around and eat donuts all day !!!!!!!!!! That would leave me all nice and filled up for my flight down to Miami later in the afternoon.... Ahhhhh, Miiiaaammii....(homer) twist my arm.... Collin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 11:45:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27503; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19110; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24299; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:44:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 9LLDa03868; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:43:27 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <3ba1fae8.350027b2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:43:27 EST To: CAClements@XXXXXX, rdt@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, JinnSinn@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/6/98 9:23:47 AM, CAClements@XXXXXX wrote: <> don't blame Jeannette! I said Sunday first! (Cause I'm busy on Saturday and wanted lots of company ......) besides, how do you know it's going to rain FOR SURE anyway? are you the Manager in charge of Rain? The REO (Rain Executive Officer)? Tee hee hee .......... just cross your fingers with the rest of us! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 11:48:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27562; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19274; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24470; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id FJAFa01471; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:47:23 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:47:23 EST To: ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX, CAClements@XXXXXX, rdt@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, JinnSinn@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/6/98 9:41:22 AM, ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX wrote: <> Don't give up on us yet Ursulina! Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 11:54:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27621; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:54:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19808; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:54:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24770; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:54:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA03163; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA17214; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:54:13 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA17211; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:54:12 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD48DD.6F25C340@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:54:12 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:50:22 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 21 TEXT OK, let's keep our fingers and toes crossed. :) Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 8:47 AM >To: ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX; CAClements@XXXXXX; rdt@XXXXXX; >dc-cycles@XXXXXX; JinnSinn@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER > > >In a message dated 3/6/98 9:41:22 AM, ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX wrote: > ><catching up with Roy turner and going on Saturday?>> > >Don't give up on us yet Ursulina! > >Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 12:13:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27874; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20756; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25445; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:12:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA11398; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:19:55 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'rdt@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" Subject: RE: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:13:52 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's nice today, lets all leave work and meat at the do-nut shop in an hour Curtis ---------- From: Jinn Sinn[SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 11:43 AM To: Clements, Curtis A; rdt@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX; JinnSinn@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER In a message dated 3/6/98 9:23:47 AM, CAClements@XXXXXX wrote: <> don't blame Jeannette! I said Sunday first! (Cause I'm busy on Saturday and wanted lots of company ......) besides, how do you know it's going to rain FOR SURE anyway? are you the Manager in charge of Rain? The REO (Rain Executive Officer)? Tee hee hee .......... just cross your fingers with the rest of us! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 12:23:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA28020; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20977; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25770; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:23:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 9BRJa04960; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:22:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:22:30 EST To: CAClements@XXXXXX, rdt@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, JinnSinn@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/6/98 12:12:48 PM, CAClements@XXXXXX wrote: <> yes let's have a general city-wide biker-it's-too-nice-to-be-inside-sitting- on-my-@$$-strike :D Marcy - who gets to ride out to Maryland in about an hour to do something for her job............ yay! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 12:36:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA28292; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:36:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA21576; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26251; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:36:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id MAA07847; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:36:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:34:06 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C1569@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , CAClements@XXXXXX, rdt@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:35:14 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I'm so jealous, Marcy!! I, on the other hand, am heading up to the treadmill to work out!! No riding 'till AFTER work for me! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 06, 1998 12:23 PM > To: CAClements@XXXXXX; rdt@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX; > JinnSinn@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: RE: RE: SUNDAY WEATHER > > > In a message dated 3/6/98 12:12:48 PM, CAClements@XXXXXX wrote: > > < an hour > Curtis>> > > yes let's have a general city-wide > biker-it's-too-nice-to-be-inside-sitting- > on-my-@$$-strike > > :D > Marcy - who gets to ride out to Maryland in about an hour to do > something for > her job............ yay! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 15:49:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA02060; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:49:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27983; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from att.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03283; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by kcgw2.att.com; Fri Mar 6 14:31 CST 1998 Received: from dcn72.dcn.att.com (dcn72.dcn.att.com [135.44.192.2]) by kcig2.att.att.com (AT&T/GW-1.0) with SMTP id OAA14762 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:48:33 -0600 (CST) Received: by dcn72.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4917.943B9490@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:50:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: No MC Content . . .Bed for Sale Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:50:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For sale: 1 Queen Size bed 3 Months old "Majesty Supreme" Box Spring Included Bed Frame Included Reason for selling: Owner is moving out of the USA New $312 Sell for $200 or best offer Contact Richard Godbout at 703 758 8935 If Richard is not there you may direct you inquiries to his roomate. Thanks. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 17:10:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA03545; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:10:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA01526; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06037; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:09:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from rdt.erols.com (207-172-33-95.s95.tnt8.brd.erols.com [207.172.33.95]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24953 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:09:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803062209.RAA24953@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Roy D. Turner" To: Subject: Roy's Sat Ride Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:08:24 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I propose meeting at the Silver Diner parking lot at Springfield Mall (Springfield VA) between 10:00 and 10:30 on Saturday morning. Leave promptly at 10:30 for Colonial Beach. Should take about 1 3/4 to 2 hours to get there. Should be able to eat lunch in Colonial Beach at a good seafood place and be back in the Springfield area no later than 3:30 p.m. First part of the trip is Rt. 95 highway driving until Stafford. Back roads from there. EMail me to confirm or ask for more details. Roy D. Turner, Esq. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 21:44:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA06219; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:44:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA05502; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA10755; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:44:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA20375; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:44:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3500DF63.7C42@mnsinc.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 21:47:15 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles CC: "Roy D. Turner" Subject: Re: Roy's Sat Ride Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From: "Roy D. Turner" > To: > Subject: Roy's Sat Ride > Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:08:24 -0500 > I propose meeting at the Silver Diner parking lot at Springfield Mall > (Springfield VA) between 10:00 and 10:30 on Saturday morning. Leave > promptly at 10:30 for Colonial Beach. Should take about 1 3/4 to 2 hours > to get there. Should be able to eat lunch in Colonial Beach at a good > seafood place and be back in the Springfield area no later than 3:30 p.m. > First part of the trip is Rt. 95 highway driving until Stafford. Back > roads from there. EMail me to confirm or ask for more details. Roy D. > Turner, Esq. Roy, or any other kind soul... it's almost 10:00 pm - anyone got directions to S'field Mall from 395. I have no idea where that is. I'm of the belief that tomorrow will bless us with better riding wx than Sunday ;) I'm on D-mode btw so answer direct. TIA JK From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 23:14:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06819; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06226; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:14:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA11922; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id XAA06237; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:21:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:21:56 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: "Cycles, DC -- DC Cycles" Subject: Clymer's Giveaway for 81-85 XJ550 & FJ600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Since I no longer have my old Maxim (though I DO still have the big white box) and I now have a GS650 and just bought the Clymer's for it, I no longer need the old Clymer's. The giveaway is a Clymer's for 1981-1985 Yamaha XJ550 & FJ600. This includes the 550 Seca and Maxim. If you'd like it, contact me via e-mail and then I can arrange to get it to you. -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 23:17:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06850; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06236; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:16:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA11996; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA24187 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:16:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3500F515.4EFA@mnsinc.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 23:19:49 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Thanks, Merci, Gracias, Danke, Shay-shay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To all who gave me directions for tomorrow (the no-rain day). Hasta mañana... -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" - K. Marx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 6 23:49:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA07059; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:49:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06431; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:49:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA12328; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:49:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.46] (unverified [207.226.128.46]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Fri, 06 Mar 1998 23:48:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Boxed in! Date: Fri, 6 Mar 98 23:49:43 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Louis F. Caplan" , "DC-Cycles List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Anyone else have this kind of experience? What can be done? Potato in the exhaust pipe. -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 7 14:31:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA12489; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14941; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA21243; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:31:12 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565BF.004F1ECF ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:24:12 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565BF.004E08D4.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:16:22 -0500 Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Okay, finally I'm going to be in town for a weekend, so I wanna go on this Sunday's ride...I know you all are meeting at the Krispy Kreme donuts place (which I'm 100% in favor of...mmmmm :-P) but I don't know when, and I don't really know where the donut place it. I was originally supposed to head to Pittsburgh this weekend to wrench on a friend's VW, but thats fallen through and I need some activities! The M/C is getting angry having not been run in days, and I'm scared of what it might do if I don't get it on the road soon! :-O So PLEASE send me the info, somebody! Either to this address, or: dougntess@XXXXXX THANKS and I hope to meet some of you on Sunday! -Doug '81 GS 750L douglas_brashear@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 7 21:04:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA16514; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:04:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA18629; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:03:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA26956; Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.77.99]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA325 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:03:08 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: GSX1100G FS now Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 20:59:30 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4a35$d56aa4a0$634d440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Hey, y'all-- My bro-in-law found a new leftover 94 Wing and he's gonna buy it. His 93 GSX1100G shaft-drive standard with some extras is for sale. Probably around $4000. Under 7000 miles. I'll doublecheck the price. later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 8 02:32:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA19225; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:32:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA21101; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:31:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA00702; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 02:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.44] (unverified [207.226.128.44]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Sun, 08 Mar 1998 02:31:18 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: RE: SUNDAYS RIDE meeting place Date: Sun, 8 Mar 98 02:32:14 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >THANKS and I hope to meet some of you on Sunday! Given the wet weather, how much you wanna bet this ride doesn't materialize? As for me, I'm going to go home and install some extra visibility goodies on my bike, try another replacement horn, and maybe swing another ride on my dad's new bike (picked up an F650ST on Friday). I did get to go on a group ride of sorts today. My brother, father, and I all have bikes now (well, the brother is riding a bike that is titled in my name that my father is paying on.) -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 8 10:11:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20940; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:11:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28068; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA03536; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15200; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:10:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3502DFD5.5295@mnsinc.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 10:13:41 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles CC: VF/VFR List Subject: Bike Week - NYT Article (long) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey gang, Since most of us in the DC area are feeling stuck indoors today, I thought this article from today's New York Times might be of some interest. The URL is : http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/fla-biker-week.html Enjoy. March 8, 1998 DAYTONA BEACH JOURNAL At Rally, Bikers Flash Chrome and Gold Card By MIREYA NAVARRO DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- In the black leather, exhaust pipe extravaganza known as Bike Week, close to half a million motorcycle enthusiasts descended on this city of about 63,000 residents to partake of the engine revving, beer drinking and girlfriend flaunting of biker lore. Bars still post "No Colors" signs that forbid patrons from wearing identifying jackets that could provoke brawls between rival motorcycle clubs. Contests held throughout the city and the rest of Volusia County's coast during the annual 10-day event that ends on Sunday cater to the taste of the rough: "Ladies arm wrestling," "Biggest beer belly," "Great cleavage," "Best tattoo" and "Bikini pull-off." But behind that "Easy Rider" appearance are people like Roger McColaugh, 48, a mortician from Xenia, Ohio, who is attending his first Bike Week with two friends. McColaugh bought a Harley-Davidson Heritage Softail Classic in 1994 after, he said, "I finally talked my wife into letting me buy one." "I just enjoy the freedom of air flowing through my hair," he said. "Except Florida has a helmet law." Today's typical biker, in fact, is more likely an executive than a rebel, more a settled-down baby boomer than a bad boy, says the Motorcycle Industry Council, a national trade association that counts 6 million motorcycles on American roads. Studies show that although riders in the 1990s are still mostly male, they are older (over 33), more likely to be married, better educated and better off financially than they were in 1980. After a slump in the 1980s, motorcycle sales are up 43 percent since 1991, with Hondas and Harley-Davidsons leading in market share, the council said. Beverly St. Clair, a spokeswoman for the trade group, said that more people were looking for ways to relax from the stress of work or "out trying to recapture their youth." The stereotypical image of bikers derived from Hollywood and news coverage of motorcycle gangs like the Hell's Angels is far from the reality of Daytona Beach's Bike Week, the largest motorcycle event in the country, now in its 57th year. An event that includes motorcycle races, swap meets and parties can at times become a fest of camaraderie as bikers show off and admire new paint jobs and chrome pipes. Although the roar of motorcycles often drowns out conversations, Daytona Beach police say that, as a group, the bikers are no more rowdy than students on spring break or the race car crowds that stage their own invasions of the city at other times of the year. In fact, the bikers are greeted with welcome signs everywhere, at gas stations, upscale hotels and shops, some of which draw most of their annual income from the $282 million that the week generates in spending by both bikers and the tourists from all over the world who come to gawk. At the Boot Hill Saloon on Main Street, a thoroughfare closed to all traffic except motorcycles during Bike Week, Gary Gehris says that most of the several thousand people who fill up his bar and parking lot from 9 a.m. to 3 a.m. are older, mellower and friendlier than ever. Gone are the days of fights like the one in the 1970s when a drunken patron hit a police officer with a pool cue, he said. Now, people have a good time and pay with gold credit cards. "People say excuse me even when you bump into them," Gehris noted. Michael Hires, 52, a graphics artist from the area who has attended Bike Week for 33 years, sipped from his beer as he looked over the scene at the Boot Hill. He agreed that "this is a petting zoo compared to what it used to be." "Most of these people are on vacation," Hires said. "They have no agendas, no ax to grind. Before, if you tried to prove yourself, nobody could stop you. There were no D.U.I. laws so it was a continual drunk. Now people can't afford to act like that. They have families and jobs." And, he added, "when you're in your 50s, you don't want to get beat up." Women, the "chicks" in the back of the bike who were often treated more like property than significant others, increasingly ride in front. They now account for about 8 percent of all motorcycle owners, compared with 1 percent in the 1960s, according to the motorcycle council. "I got a divorce, got a motorcycle and came to Daytona," said Sharon Morse, a 50-year-old machine shop owner from Michigan who owns a winter home here with her boyfriend. "You get so stressed out and you start riding and everything kind of oozes away. It's like 'ooooh."' Despite the changing demographics, there is still the need to keep up a certain wild look. This usually requires men to have long hair and to wear leather boots, vests and jackets, dark sunglasses and bandannas. Old-timers, the lifelong riders who stay in campgrounds rather than in hotels, who do their own wrenching, whose jackets bear patches with the names of fallen friendswho are more likely to be war veterans and who take to the road rain or shine, are amused by but tolerant of the wannabes. Some noted that there was a kinship among bikers no matter what their stripe. "They want a taste of the action," said Paul Glint, 51, the Boot Hill Saloon's head of security, who is better known by his handle or biker name, Frenchy. But Glint said he could spot a nerd in a biker's outfit just as easily as he could weed out a potential troublemaker at his bar. "You can tell who they are -- a $500 jacket." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 8 10:56:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21196; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28168; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA03881; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:56:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (port15.annex4.radix.net [209.48.225.143]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA09409 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 10:56:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3502E932.58EC@radix.net> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 10:53:38 -0800 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: F650ST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 13:06:12 -0600 Message-ID: <009101bd4ac3$75b97b10$832f31cc@saturn.onyxgroup.com> Reply-To: "Pete Slatcoff" From: "Pete Slatcoff" To: Subject: Wanted: Yamaha TX-750 - 1972-9175 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 12:53:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008E_01BD4A91.2B020D30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01BD4A91.2B020D30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking for Yamaha TX-750 1972-1975. Books, manuals, literature, = brochures, etc. Need Parts too. Peter. ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01BD4A91.2B020D30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Looking for Yamaha TX-750 = 1972-1975. =20 Books, manuals, literature, brochures, etc.  Need Parts = too.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_008E_01BD4A91.2B020D30-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 8 15:09:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23367; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA00432; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:08:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06476; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:08:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-24.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.65]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA32478 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:08:31 -0500 Message-ID: <03a901bd4ace$2be9c160$3210b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Getting hit by stuff while riding (sort of) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 15:09:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Is 395 a new war zone -- or is it merely manifesting March mental mushiness? Several non-rush runs between DC and Springfield area over the last few days have brought to note: 2 dumped loads at exit ramps (both reargate problems-???), 3 trucks shedding gravel at speed, about 5 false turnsignals (excusable on bikes, but cars . . .), any number of nonsignals (mostly by senior-looking types), 2 pickups with fallout-prone loads, 2 shoulder-to-shoulder brake-jamming lane switchers. And some other little stuff. It was after instance four I started keeping track. 9K MC miles around here and this current listing surprised me. Prly not telling bikemuters anything, but thought I'd check on how, in my motorcyclist way, I might bring authoritative drive-time help to order this quasi-chaos. Not too much, it seems, even with road rage crackdown, but did unearth this new-to-me info -- from a phone conversation with a seemingly knowledgeable VDOT trooper type (comments covering No.Va -- Loudoun, PW, Ffx, Arlington counties. Troopers nearly always ready near Lorton, WilsonBr.) Two telephone routes to VDOT in Ffx City: o Cellphone press #,7,7. Can be used to report an in-progress problem. LICENSE NUMBERS KEY. VDOT works closely with cross-jurisdictional types and zaps word out, if necessary. Drunks, safety problems, etc. Police have to witness transgression to pull over. o Wire -- 703 323 4500. Obviously time lag a problem though they will accept info for record. Like if somebody empties out the camper john (increasingly a probability, methinks) one might as well pull off near a telephone to clean the windshield and clear the ego. Have increasing respect for "clear view ahead", "lead dog" approach to dumps/panels/SUVs/problems, at risk of "WFO MC'er" tag. Any other solutions/insight out there? Bill Swanson Join the AMA. Join the AMA. Join the AMA. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 00:01:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA28438; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA09050; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:01:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15032; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.46] (unverified [207.226.128.46]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Mon, 09 Mar 1998 00:00:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: F650ST Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 00:01:25 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I loved this bike. And if you can find a dealer with a '97, you can get either $1500 off, or 0% financing for up to five years. Morton's had three last week, and were down to one after my dad picked up his. But, they should have five more coming in. (And while on the subject of Morton's, let me say that the staff at every dealer I've been to in the area has a thing or three to learn. The first time I went there, I met the owner (didn't know he was the owner). Steve (sales manager) didn't feed me a line of crap about anything. He's always been straightforward and honest. The parts people were knowledgable about what they sell. The service people were willing to tell me some hints on some service stuff even though I've never had them do any service on my bike.) Anyway, I bet you won't find a lighter feeling 450 lb. bike anywhere. The thing tosses from left to right as quick as anything I've ridden (granted, I've only ridden a small handful of bikes). Nice tight turning radius. In fact, I found myself having to open up mid turn, as the thing was so willing to turn tight. Engine is very smooth. It feels smoother than my R850R at most speeds. Only around 55-60 (who goes that slow?) and above 70 is there some tingle. Most of that, thankfully, is through the pegs, not through the handlebars. It's not super powerful, but it's still in the break-in stage, so I haven't run it up that high yet. It feels confident. It's certainly more potent than most cruisers. Oh, and the sucker wheelies easier and better than any BMW that I've ridden. The same technique that gets me four or five inches on the R850R gives about 15 inches on the F650. For some reason, my father didn't seem pleased to hear that:) My brother has about 1500 street miles on my Eliminator. After 5 miles on the F650st, he was riding some twisty roads close to the house faster than he had before. Maybe not smart, but an indication of how confidence inspring the bike is. Almost forgot the gearbox. Forget everything you've heard about BMW/Getrag gearboxes. First, this is built by neither of them:) It has a wet clutch. It is easy to shift into first from neutral at a light. The shift throws were light and positive. The only problem is that the lever is way too high for my tastes, something I may remedy today or tomorrow (have to house sit for my parents this week, so I might commute on the new bike. Anything to get it run-in quicker:) Hey, it's a blast. Go down to Morton's (or Bob's) and get a test ride on one. My father summed it up like this "That bike is what motorcycling is all about." He's never been that enthusiastic about something in the 25 years I've known him:) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 01:06:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA29668; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA10040; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA15926; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1IEJa01472 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:05:20 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23 Message-ID: <8ceb385e.350386a2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:05:20 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: A request for subscription. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 56 I would greatly appreciate it if you would subscribe me to your mailing list. My e-mail address is Eternity23@XXXXXX. I currently own & ride an '83 Honda VFR 750 Interceptor. Thank you. -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 08:30:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02482; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:30:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19104; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:30:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA21561; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:30:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA11670 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 05:30:15 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 9 Mar 1998 05:30:15 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'Eternity23'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: A request for subscription. Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 05:32:30 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 20 TEXT Sorry Sean (and group), that address should have been: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX 1100GP >-----Original Message----- >From: Eternity23 [SMTP:Eternity23@XXXXXX] >Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 01:05 >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: A request for subscription. > >I would greatly appreciate it if you would subscribe me to your mailing list. >My e-mail address is Eternity23@XXXXXX. I currently own & ride an '83 Honda >VFR 750 Interceptor. Thank you. > >-Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 08:52:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02650; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:52:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19453; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:52:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.emeraldcoast.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA21988; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.49.47.131] by www.destin.net (NTMail 3.03.0014/7.aaik) with ESMTP id ta033637 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:01:44 -0600 Message-ID: <011f01bd4b62$0867cae0$832f31cc@saturn.onyxgroup.com> Reply-To: "Pete Slatcoff" From: "Pete Slatcoff" To: Subject: Wanted: Yamaha TX-750 1972 -1975 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:48:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011C_01BD4B2F.BDB1BC90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01BD4B2F.BDB1BC90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am looking for a Yamaha TX-750 1972-1975. Also shop and owners = manuals, brochures, literature and parts. Help...................... Peter. ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01BD4B2F.BDB1BC90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_011C_01BD4B2F.BDB1BC90-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 11:15:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06005; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA20936; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:15:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28235; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:15:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA20006; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:13:49 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C157E@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Testing... Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:27:15 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I think my outside e-mail is not working... Has this list been completely dead over the weekend or is it this server at work malfunctioning again!!?? - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 12:01:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06849; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:01:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA22644; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:01:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ACA.ORG by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00433; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:01:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from ACA-Message_Server by ACA.ORG with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:04:54 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:04:44 -0500 From: David Wakefield To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: How about that Daytona 200?! Anybody watch the race on Sunday, or was everyone at the donut shop or out riding and miss it? The lead was pretty fun to watch until Miguel Duhamel crashed maybe a third of the way through. How about that Pascal Picotte? In 3rd place at the Daytona 200 with the possibility of an actual podium finish on a VR1000 Harley-Davidson until an inept pit crew and/or faulty American craftsmanship (Probably both!) dropped him completely from the running. (Did he even finish?!) Fun stuff to watch on a rainy Sunday! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 12:19:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA07141; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:19:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23264; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01241; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16849; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:18:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02134; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:18:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803091718.MAA02134@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: How about that Daytona 200?! To: DavidW@XXXXXX (David Wakefield) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:18:29 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: from "David Wakefield" at Mar 9, 98 12:04:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Anybody watch the race on Sunday, or was everyone at the donut shop > or out riding and miss it? > > The lead was pretty fun to watch until Miguel Duhamel crashed maybe a > third of the way through. I went to take my clothes out of the dryer, and when I came back, Duhamel was gone! I must of missed the replays too (if there were any). Too bad, cuz it seems that he was the only competition that Ru$$ell had in the whole race. After the first stretch, he was the only one ahead of Ru$$ell at times. How did he crash? > How about that Pascal Picotte? In 3rd place at the Daytona 200 with the > possibility of an actual podium finish on a VR1000 Harley-Davidson until > an inept pit crew and/or faulty American craftsmanship (Probably both!) > dropped him completely from the running. (Did he even finish?!) Man, you could see how pissed he was. Frantically signing for a water bottle, takes one sip and flings it back (probably aiming at someone!) > Fun stuff to watch on a rainy Sunday! It was the first time I watched a full race (except doing the laundry in between). It was interesting although I expected more. After the first 3 people crossed the finish line, it was like the end of the race, they didn't even show how the others did. For example, Picotte. And for a "Live to tape" showing, they didn't really need so many commercial breaks at the end while Ru$$ell took his extra long victory lap. You can fast forward a tape! Interesting comment about him possibly not coming back next year though. Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 12:22:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA07205; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23311; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01377; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:22:03 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:24:24 -0500 Received: from THOMPSOL.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL [160.151.107.198] by dclink.com with smtp id AMBHCOEE ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:24:06 -0500 Reply-To: "Jay" From: "Jay" To: "EXUP Brotherhood" , "DC Cycles Mailing List" , "Baltimore Cycles List" Subject: Dunlop D 204 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:25:11 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4b80$5110e240$c66b97a0@THOMPSOL.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 I am considering putting a D 204 on my FZR 600. Has anyone had any luck with this tire? I have heard some negative press about it, but want to hear more. Later, Jay http://www.dclink.com/jaynik/index.htm Bodybuilding: The Right Way! http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/2199 Jay's FZR 600 Page From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 12:35:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA07416; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23549; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from digisys.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01901; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:33:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from quantex (X2modem6.digisys.net [208.141.130.15]) by digisys.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA28147; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:33:16 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980309103316.007a15c0@pop.digisys.net> X-Sender: vernay@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 10:33:19 -0700 To: "Jay" From: Don Vernay Subject: Re: EXUP Dunlop D 204 Cc: "EXUP Brotherhood" , "DC Cycles Mailing List" , "Baltimore Cycles List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:25 PM 3/9/1998 -0500, Jay wrote: >I am considering putting a D 204 on my FZR 600. Has anyone had any luck >with this tire? I have heard some negative press about it, but want to hear >more. > >Later, > >Jay >http://www.dclink.com/jaynik/index.htm >Bodybuilding: The Right Way! > >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/2199 >Jay's FZR 600 Page > > > > > >============================================================ >**Don't forget EXUP IRC chat Thursday at 9 PM MST** >============================================================ >**Euro chat is sunday at 19:00 GMT** >============================================================ >---> The New 'Official' Brotherhood web page is up! >---> visit http://superbike.home.mindspring.com/exup.html >============================================================ Don't buy a 204. Traction sucks, especially in cooler weather. If you want a Dunlop, get a 207. Better yet, buy a Metzler MEZ1 or a Pirelli Corsa, or a Michelin. Don Vernay Bigfork, MT YZF 1000 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 13:04:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA08183; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24303; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from DONALD.CDER.FDA.GOV by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03493; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:04:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr.cder.fda.gov by fdaserv.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.1-8 #21467) id <01IUGOKDZRLC8ZEQQB@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:52:48 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:38:29 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta DONALD; Relayed; Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:38:29 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:38:22 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy 301-594-5672 FAX 301-480-8329 Subject: Re: How about that Daytona 200?! To: dc-cycles Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:38:23 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: E1402IGZ2PPBC X400-MTS-identifier: [;92832190308991/2411429@FDACD] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 >The lead was pretty fun to watch until Miguel Duhamel crashed maybe a >third of the way through. Yes, it was a great race until Duhamel crashed. After that, the drama was just gone. The 6.6 sec pit stop was amazing though. No matter how many races I watch I'm always amazed at just how much the top guy's bikes squirm around. It really makes me look like a wuss... Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 15:00:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10448; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:00:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26155; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:00:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08207; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:00:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from JM7572@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id HEPDa26839; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:58:15 -0500 (EST) From: JM7572 Message-ID: <168ad749.350449d9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:58:15 EST To: vernay@XXXXXX, exup-brotherhood@XXXXXX Cc: exup-brotherhood@XXXXXX (EXUP Brotherhood), dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC Cycles Mailing List), balt-cycles@XXXXXX (Baltimore Cycles List) Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: EXUP Dunlop D 204 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 61 D-204. Abosolute junk. Don't bother with it. I would use Metzler or Michilen before I would use a D-204. Now the D-207 in either street or GP compound is a different story. :-) Joey From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 17:44:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA13506; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:44:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00442; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:43:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA14129; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:43:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4B82.36CC43F0@XXXXXX>; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:38:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'jlobrien@XXXXXX'" , "'zellto@XXXXXX'" , "'zellto@XXXXXX'" Subject: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:38:46 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks! I have recently come to a very joyous point in my life and I thought I might share it with all of you because without you all and the list, this might not have happened. Please read on! And Kevin... please bare with me as you've already heard this one... About three and a half months ago I came across a post on the VF/VFR list that Jeannette had sent in regards to finding fellow riders in the D.C. area. She said that she had just purchased her VF500 and was looking for people to ride with. Well, I tried responding back to her through her personal email address and the VF/VFR list. Unfortunately, I did not get a reply back that afternoon so I posted to the VF/VFR list again trying to find her. I finally got a reply back right before Thanksgiving. We got to talking a little by email and had somewhat sorta made plans to meet up for a group ride with her friends on the following Monday. She had also told me about finding local riders through the DC-Cycles list. Well, as luck would have it, I had to work as usual and because of my responsibilities I couldn't take the day off. I was also seeing someone at the time and out of respect for the other person I bowed out. I knew that if I met Jeannette I would end up going out with her. It was just one of those feelings. Now fast-forward about two months.....It was the middle of January and I was finally starting to get over the flu. My interest in my pc and the VFR had started to perk up again so I decided to start checking out the internet for parts and such. Andrew Reveles(from the VFR list)was just finishing his Project Phoenix VFR so I was getting psyched. I needed(and still need) to find an F2 front wheel to complete the suspension conversion on the VFR. It was then that I came across the DC-Cycles list. I had remembered Jeannette giving me information about the list when we talked before so I decided to join and see if I could get some help finding stuff. I saw a few posts from Jeannette and the interest was sparked again. At about the same time Leon was setting up his Lean Angles contest/get together out at the Prince William Cnty Pkwy park&ride lot. My VFR was down at the time(waiting for the wheel) but I decided to show up anyway to come out and meet everyone. Most of all I wanted to meet Jeannette. I was still seeing that same person(things were not working out, however) but there was a feeling that I had that I just had to act upon. I finally got to meet her and basically we hit it off from the start. After talking with her and Collin for a while(I did meet everyone who showed) everyone decided on lunch. We ended up at Bob Evans and I was fortunate enough to sit next to her for the time that we were there. At first we were chatting with everyone at the table making the usual conversations, but then we just started talking with each other. I even shared part of my lunch with her. We then got onto the subject of Titanic. I explained some of my views on it and asked her if she had seen it. When I found that she had not, I told her that I would be glad to see it again if she wanted to go. She told me that she would like to and I left it at that. We also managed to exchange our interests in body piercing's, my nipple, her navel. Things were rolling along quite nicely!! We finished eating and everyone decided to part. Jeannette, Collin, my friend Lenzy, and myself decided to hang out in the parking lot for a while longer. We talked on about a number of subjects. Anything was good for me because I just wasn't ready to say goodbye. Jeannette did manage to talk me into putting the VFR back together so I could come out with it for Lean Angles part 2. We said our good-byes and left. All the way home, the only thing I could do was talk about Jeannette. I must have talked my friend's ear off. I got home and started working on the bike. Three hours later my brother and I (and my Pit Bull, Zeus) were pulling the VFR through the mud in my backyard. I got the bike cleaned off and had it ready for the morning. I got to the park and ride and the only people there were Ursulina, Collin and his wife Penny, and Leon with his daughter. No Jeannette!!! I was bummed but I figured there was a reason. So we shoot ahead to later that night. I was on the phone with Lenzy and I got this strange page. I instantly knew it was Jeannette so I hung up with him and called her right back. I talked to her for a few minutes and finalized plans to see Titanic that Tuesday. I was very, very happy! I picked up Jeannette to see Titanic and we were off. It was so nice seeing the movie with her and by the end of the evening I knew I was falling for her. I took her back to her house and after hours of standing in the rain talking and such I decided it was time to go... but not without a kiss. I caressed her face in my hands and kissed her. I swear you could have heard a pin drop. I felt the earth move and at that moment I knew that fate had finally brought me to my soulmate. I had never felt anything like that before in my life and according to her the feeling was mutual. The following weekend we spent the whole time together. I was in heaven! Now we shoot ahead again to Valentine's weekend. We had a nice long weekend together, and to make things plain and simple, we professed our love to one another. It was really fast in the making, but we both knew it was meant to be! Finally, I had found the love that I had been searching for all my life and she the same. Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are engaged to be married!! We went out Saturday searching for our diamond and we found it. Now we're just waiting on the setting. I asked for her parents permission Saturday evening and they happily said yes. When I finally pick up the ring, I will propose to her( I wanted to have it with me of course)! We are to be married on March 27th, 1999. We can hardly wait!! Jeanette and I would like to extend our thanks to you all on the DC-Cycles list and the VF/VFR list for without them we may never had met one another... and yes... romance and love are still alive in the world today... sometimes you really have to look for it to find it! -Tom Zell '86 VFR700/750F -Jeanette O'brien '85 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 18:03:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA13695; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:03:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA01162; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:03:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA14649; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA22349 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:48:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:48:52 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy Reply-To: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: MARRC Cornerworking Training - Reminder Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Who: Anyone interested in learing how to cornerwork When: Saturday, March 14, 4pm to 8;30pm Where: Four Corners Recreation Center, Silver Spring, Maryland Why:The mid-Atlantic Roadracing Club (MARRC) has been providing top-quality safety crews for our motorcycle races for more than ten years. The Race Emergency School is our annual work session designed to teach volunteers how to be part of the best cornerworking crew in the country. You will be trained on cornerworkers' roles and duties, flags and flagging, hand signals, personal safety, radio procedures, bike pick-up and inspection, oil cleanup and other issues important to a cornerworker. A light dinner will be provided, but itf you need more substantial fare, please feel free to bring your own. The benefits of working with the MARRC Safety Crew include complimentary: Admission to the race track Lunch daily and dinner on Saturday at the track Safety Crew tee shirt MARRC Membership New friends, great times, and more! For more information, feel free to contact any of the following: David Rickman - (703)435-1223 Rodger Bacon - (703)379-8918 - rababacon@XXXXXX Wendy Karppi - (410)451-8382 - halfpint@XXXXXX Myself (Brian McCoy) (301)445-4451 - (e-mails at the bottom) Directions: >From the Washington beltway, go north on either route 29 (colesville Rd) or route 193 (University Blvd). At the junction of 29 and 193, go north on 29 towards Columbia. The second left is Southwood Ave. Follow Southwood to the rec center. hope to see all of you there!!! (ok, so I won't seen anyone there, cause I'm not going! ha, sorry.. For those who do get involved, I'll see ya at the track!) Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com\motorcity\1319 (OLD Homepage - view at your own risk) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 18:06:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA13747; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:06:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA01256; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA14746; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:06:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA21635; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:43:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:43:38 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: David Wakefield cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: How about that Daytona 200?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, David Wakefield wrote: > > How about that Pascal Picotte? In 3rd place at the Daytona 200 with the > possibility of an actual podium finish on a VR1000 Harley-Davidson until > an inept pit crew and/or faulty American craftsmanship (Probably both!) > dropped him completely from the running. (Did he even finish?!) He took 40th - and it was definatly an inept pit crew.. they left the impact nut attached to the rear axle one time.. running after him to stop him, but it fell off (first stop). Agreed about the race being dead borring after Miguell overbraked and waded that expen$ive bike.. Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 19:26:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA14704; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:26:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA02307; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:26:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA16681; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:26:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from dagoe.erols.com (207-172-90-29.s283.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.29]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA15025 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:26:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980309192736.00687a6c@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: dagoe@XXXXXX (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 19:27:36 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Running Cloud Subject: Parts Bike Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A friend has a junky 1975 Honda CB360 that he'll sell cheap. Call him in Annapolis at 410-268-3073. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 19:58:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA15165; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA02500; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from radagast.wizard.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA17375; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:58:02 -0500 (EST) From: thetrick@XXXXXX Received: from nt_thetrick (tc1-s32.wizard.net [206.161.15.62]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA27469 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:58:01 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980309075717.00966940@mail.wizard.net> X-Sender: thetrick@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 07:57:17 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: newsgroup find Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" found the following ad in dc.forsale.misc. don't think it has been reposted here yet. also, i was wondering if anyone got in touch with the seller of a Ducati 860 from an ad which was reposted here last week. if you know something (and don't want to buy the bike yourself :), how about telling me how to get in touch with the seller? thx ============== >Subject: bmw 750 mc fs >Date: Sat, 07 Mar 98 21:23:44 GMT >From: David.Shapiro@XXXXXX (David Shapiro) >Organization: Air 'n Sun >Newsgroups: dc.forsale.misc > >1975 R bike for sale, 750 cc, ridden daily, funky looking but reliable enough >for me (too funky for my sweetie) with Windjammer III and engine guards >301-699-8833. Liek to get $2000, don't necessarily expect to. all possible disclaimers apply ;) tom From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 22:06:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA16819; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:06:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA03269; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:05:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA20388; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:05:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from gte.net (2Cust43.tnt9.atl2.da.uu.net [153.36.59.171]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01179; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:05:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3505FEA5.48CD1E0A@gte.net> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:01:58 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" Organization: MSC Salvage Team X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay CC: EXUP Brotherhood , DC Cycles Mailing List , Baltimore Cycles List Subject: Re: Dunlop D 204 References: <01bd4b80$5110e240$c66b97a0@THOMPSOL.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jay, (quick note from sunny Miami...ahhhh gov't travel) If you ride your bike anything past standard commuting, don't waste your cash on The 204's....They wear out in nothing flat, and they slide out terribly easy. For a very few bucks more (ballpark of MEZ1s) get the Avon Azarros... Incredible fairing and peg dragging grip, and excellent tread life. I was getting 2k per rear and 4k per front on the 204 in street compound... With the Azarros, I got about 500 miles more out of the front, but about 3000 more miles out of the rear. Remind me when I get back to DC Wed evening, and I can tell you all about the Avons.. >From a once long time Dunlop user, i swear by them.. then again, maybe I just got tired of buying 5 or more sets of tires a year for my gixer! Collin Jay wrote: > I am considering putting a D 204 on my FZR 600. Has anyone had any luck > with this tire? I have heard some negative press about it, but want to hear > more. > > Later, > > Jay > http://www.dclink.com/jaynik/index.htm > Bodybuilding: The Right Way! > > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/2199 > Jay's FZR 600 Page From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 22:16:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA16881; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA03336; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:16:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA20652; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from DMoody8850@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id CJHKa08714; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:14:05 -0500 (EST) From: DMoody8850 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:14:05 EST To: homesalv@XXXXXX, jaynik@XXXXXX Cc: exup-brotherhood@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: EXUP Re: Dunlop D 204 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 In a message dated 98-03-09 22:11:06 EST, homesalv@XXXXXX writes: << Jay, (quick note from sunny Miami...ahhhh gov't travel) If you ride your bike anything past standard commuting, don't waste your cash on The 204's....They wear out in nothing flat, and they slide out terribly easy. For a very few bucks more (ballpark of MEZ1s) get the Avon Azarros... Incredible fairing and peg dragging grip, and excellent tread life. I was getting 2k per rear and 4k per front on the 204 in street compound... With the Azarros, I got about 500 miles more out of the front, but about 3000 more miles out of the rear. Remind me when I get back to DC Wed evening, and I can tell you all about the Avons.. From a once long time Dunlop user, i swear by them.. then again, maybe I just got tired of buying 5 or more sets of tires a year for my gixer! Collin >> You must be hard on your tires. I have 3900 miles on my 204's and they still have at least 1000 miles left in them if not more. Hammer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 22:28:46 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA17039; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:28:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA03408; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA20985; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:28:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com ([207.205.129.147]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA14190 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:28:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980309220853.0069fb30@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 22:08:53 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Greetings from Asheville Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Here's the short version: I woke up this morning, loaded up the bike, and wound up in Asheville, NC. Stats from the GPS: Total miles: 477 Travel time: 6:28 Average Speed: 73.7 mph Top speed: 112 Highest elevation: 3,462 feet The longer version is as follows, though a full trip report is in the works: After checking the area radar on cable tv, I planned out the quickest route out of the rain and into the hills: 495 to 66 to Front Royal. With a bolus of caffeine and Motrin, I initalized a series of waypoints on the new GPS and headed out into the rain and rush hour. Although the heaviest of rain had passed through the area, it was still coming down pretty hard most of the way out 66. However, as I approached Front Royal, I was greet by sunshine and a mammoth rainbow. Turning south I had a beautiful trip: warm, sunny, no cops, spectacular scenery. However I did run into a bit of a squall about 200 miles with frighteningly heavy gusts. Thankfully, it was over relatively quickly. I cruised into Johnson City, TN, and headed through the mountains on RT 19, one of the most beautifully situated and maintained roads I have ever seen: curvy divided highway, banked turns, and even little nets to prevent falling rocks from sliding into the road. At the TN/NC border, though, the road abruptly changes. Apparently, NC hasn't gotten around to upgrading their leg of it. Still, though, the ride into Asheville was excellent. Asheville is a very cool city in the hills, well worth the visit. After dropping of my stuff at the Radisson (hey... it's my vacation and I got a good rate through AAA, including breakfast and mountain view), I took a stroll through town. It's filled with all sorts of very unique and funky shops. Not the least of which was the "Center for Massage & Natural Health," where I, being a health care provider, felt obligated to take advantage of their expertise, particularly after nearly 6.5 hours in the saddle. An hour later, I was healed. After a fantastic dinner, I headed back to the hotel, unpacked the laptop, and mapped out my itinerary for tomorrow, which should include a visit to Deal's Gap and the Biltmore Mansion. I'll send another update in tomorrow. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 22:44:22 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA17194; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA03485; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:44:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA21398; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA03181 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:44:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3504E1EA.4D19@mnsinc.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 22:47:06 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Saturday Ride (no rain ;) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey gang, Kind of a slow weekend but loved the race yesterday even if they did have WAY too many commercials. Others already mentioned the highlights which merit reiteration : the 6.6 second pitstop for Scott Ru$$el (good one Louis) as well as the H-D pit crew slackers who might soon be realizing their last paycheck - duh! Anyway, I was surprised (shocked) that only three bikes made it to Roy Turner's ride to Colonial Beach on Saturday. I met Roy (1997 GooF3) at S'field Silver Diner - I hate S'field since there are way too many cars there ! - and we proceeded to hook up with his buddy Kevin Bechtel (1991 VFR750) a little while later. Kevin led the ride for the most part at a decent pace (20-25 over) and it was both spirited and felt safe. I had the little one riding pillion and Roy and Kevin were more then generous in making her feel welcome, although it must be said that she does pretty good for an 8-yr-old (old man's bragging rights ;) Had a good pretty lunch at Wilkerson's in CB although it pales in comparison to Cap'n Billy's way over the water in Maryland. Good ride though. Kevin and Roy know some very neat roads I'd never been on before. So what about the rest of you slackers? OK, Tom and Jeannette had an excuse (Congrats you guys - I love love stories :) Did _anyone_ ride on Sunday? Why don't I think so? :^P Anyways y'all, you missed a nice ride. Hey, for that matter, did anyone do like I did, and play hookey and ride today? -- John Kozyn (D-mode) "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" - K. Marx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 22:48:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA17230; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA03543; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:48:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA21482; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:48:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-153-2.s2.as6.abr.erols.com [207.172.153.2]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA10489; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:47:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <014b01bd4bd6$915fc860$0299accf@default> Reply-To: "Mr. Bill" From: "Mr. Bill" To: "DMoody8850" , , Cc: , , "balt-cycles" Subject: Re: EXUP Re: Dunlop D 204 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:41:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 cf == Collin T. Fagan writes: cf> I was getting 2k per rear and 4k per front on the 204 in street cf> compound... With the Azarros, I got about 500 miles more out cf> of the front, but about 3000 more miles out of the rear. dm == DMoody8850 replies: dm> You must be hard on your tires. I have 3900 miles on my 204's and dm> they still have at least 1000 miles left in them if not more. To merely say Collin rides his Gixer hard is being very generous... stuff of legends on the dc-cycles list... :-) Mr. Bill -- DoD #0224, UB #8, MS #2 Ubi non accusator, ibi non judex denizen@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 9 23:59:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA17961; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA03907; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:58:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23024; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:58:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA13643; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:54:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 23:49:09 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: F650ST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, George Howell wrote: > Oh, and the sucker wheelies easier and better than any BMW that I've > ridden. The same technique that gets me four or five inches on the R850R > gives about 15 inches on the F650. For some reason, my father didn't seem > pleased to hear that:) C'mon George,everyone knows shafties can't wheelie. ;-) > My father summed it up like this "That bike is what motorcycling is > all about." He's never been that enthusiastic about something in the 25 > years I've known him:) Thumpers are cool.Tell your dad now he has to join the National Four Stroke Singles Assoc. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 00:54:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA18993; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04965; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA23990; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.76.107]) by mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA19449 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:53:50 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: How about that Daytona 200?! Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:50:07 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4be8$61920fa0$LocalHost@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 David-- Yup, I saw it. Didn't come in 'til after Miguel crashed out, so mostly watched Russell ride around. The VR1000 was the victim of a massive right-wing conspiracy. Or is that a Gold Wing conspiracy? I can never remember. I sure wish they'dve shown some racing instead of just Russell. I know the winner's sponsors deserve lotsa camera time, but what about all the people who turn off the set 'cause the race is so boring? I dunno, maybe enough people will sit there and watch a bunch of nothing that the network can pay the bills. I did. Did you notice that Devin Battley had his name mentioned more than anyone who wasn't in the top 5, except maybe Oliver? He must have been buying drinks for Ienatch the night before... Later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 02:13:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA19623; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA05350; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:12:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA25411; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA14530; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:08:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 02:01:24 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Daytona 200 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, P. BENSON wrote: > Alas, I watched. As a Harley racefan, it gets tiring after a while. > Seems that with all the cash HD can find for other purposes, they just > can't figure out how to make a rear axle that'll allow a tire change. Heh.Harley is going to be tying up all their spare cash paying for Buell warranty claims now that they own the company(did I mention I just got *another* recall notice in the mail :-P). > Sigh. Pascal deserves better. On a happier note, maybe in the rest of > the season things will get better, since Daytona is the only AMA race > requiring a pit stop. He's shown that he can run with the name riders, > and the VR finally was able to put out enough power that it wasn't > automatic for other bikes to get a pass on the high banking or long > straights. Time will tell. Harley needs to stop screwing around and either dump the VR program (and save face) or really start supporting it the way it should be. A real pit crew would be a good start.Getting DuHamel back in the saddle would be another.I also hate to say it,but they might want to think of putting the VR motor in a Buell frame(just don't let Buell do the building).Two of the VR's biggest probs are weight and hp.The Buell frame would fix both by eliminating the need for the counterbalancer system in the motor.This would free up some extra ponies and save weight with both the lighter frame and fewer engine parts. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 08:03:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA22530; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:03:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA06755; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:03:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA01824; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA04247 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:03:33 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:03:33 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:05:47 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 13 TEXT >I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are engaged to be married!! That's GREAT for you, but what about the rest of us??? ;-) Seriously, though, I wish you both the best and I'm glad that Jeanette had the good taste to select a fellow biker. So now we gotta go and find a stretched white GoldWing... Michael J. '93 GSX 1100GP '86 SRX-6 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 08:07:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA22587; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:07:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA06794; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:07:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA01885; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA04437 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:07:31 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:07:31 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: VF list Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:09:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 10 TEXT Do any of you VF types out there have the subscription address for the VF mailing list? My elder son, Sean, just got his first scooter last Saturday (a VERY clean '83 750 Interceptor w/39K miles) and I know he would appreciate this source of info. Michael J. '93 GSX 1100GP '86 SRX-6 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 08:28:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA22772; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:28:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA07106; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:28:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02311; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id AFE6D9021A; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:28:06 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980310082835.009c1b10@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:28:35 -0500 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: A note of thanks! (very, very long) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are >engaged to be married!! We went out Saturday searching for our diamond >and we found it. Now we're just waiting on the setting. I asked for >her parents permission Saturday evening and they happily said yes. When >I finally pick up the ring, I will propose to her( I wanted to have it >with me of course)! We are to be married on March 27th, 1999. We can >hardly wait!! Congratulations Tom and Jeannette! Say, will you be needing a motorcycle escort for your wedding? or a sidecar rig for bringing in the bride? :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 08:58:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23073; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA07371; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:58:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02911; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id HAA29126; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:54:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA12518; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980310135422.NDXD27160@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:54:22 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:53 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Tom Zell CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'jlobrien@XXXXXX'" , "'zellto@XXXXXX'" , "'zellto@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: A note of thanks! (very, very long) X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980310135422.NDXD27160@[166.41.242.141]> >Hi folks! I have recently come to a very joyous point in my life and I >thought I might share it with all of you because without you all and the >list, this might not have happened. Please read on! And Kevin... >please bare with me as you've already heard this one... >Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are >engaged to be married!! Congratulations you crazy kids! As I played hookie yesterday afternoon, and didn't bring home my pc, I wasn't on list. Linda Tanner called me last night and told me the good news. So was it the nipple ring that tipped the scale? Spring in the air? Ah..who cares, congratulations and good fortune. Todd +-----------------------------+---------------+ | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | +-----------------------------+---------------+ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 09:16:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23218; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA07630; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ngedns.northgrum.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03353; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:16:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from xcgny003.northgrum.com ([132.228.123.161]) by ngedns.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA29365 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 06:13:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by XCGNY003 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:17:03 -0500 Message-ID: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF541@xcgva001.grumman.com> From: "Meier, Christopher" To: "'dc-cycles'" Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:12:44 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Congrats!!! Hmmm. Let's see here ... Bachelor Party = Crow Bar Rehearsal dinner = Payne's Reception = ??? Congrats and Best Wishes to you both. --chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Christopher A. Meier meierch@XXXXXX Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA 1994 RF900R AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ > ---------- > From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 5:38 PM > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Cc: 'jlobrien@XXXXXX'; 'zellto@XXXXXX'; > 'zellto@XXXXXX' > Subject: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > --snip-- > Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are > engaged to be married!! We went out Saturday searching for our > diamond --snip-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 09:40:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23512; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA08602; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:40:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03991; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA00118; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA30695; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:39:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.41.110.172]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980310143905.SFIM4928@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:39:05 -0500 From: "Linda Tanner" To: "'Tom Zell'" , Cc: Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:38:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Message-Id: <19980310143905.SFIM4928@LJTanner.mcit.com> Mazeltov!!! Best wishes to both of youse. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:03:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23958; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:03:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09213; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04786; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA28957; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:02:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA00010; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:02:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980310150257.NLPK27160@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:02:57 -0600 Message-ID: <35055623.1E692B0D@mci.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:02:59 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Zell CC: "Jeannette O'Brien" , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: A note of thanks! (very, very long) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom, Err, uh, hmm, what to say, what to say... How about, "Congratulations on the bike!" :-) Or maybe, "I hope the old ball-and-chain-to-be doesn't make you give up motorcycles!" :-) Ok, ok, I'm kidding! Congrats you guys! I hope we are invited to the wedding. We'll all wear our best leathers! Best wishes, Dale (the Horkster) Tom Zell wrote: > > > Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are > engaged to be married!! ... and yes... romance and love are still live in the world > today... sometimes you really have to look for it to find it! > > -Tom Zell > '86 VFR700/750F > > -Jeanette O'brien > '85 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:04:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23986; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09253; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:04:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04832; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA26512; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:03:15 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C15CE@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , Tom Zell Cc: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , DC Cycles List Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:04:30 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain You are SO BAD!! This ball & chain intends to keep her bike & INSIST on us getting new ones every few years!! (anniversary gifts)? ; ) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:03 AM > To: Tom Zell > Cc: Jeannette O'Brien; DC Cycles List > Subject: Re: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > Tom, > > Err, uh, hmm, what to say, what to say... > > > How about, "Congratulations on the bike!" :-) > > Or maybe, "I hope the old ball-and-chain-to-be doesn't make you > give up motorcycles!" :-) > > Ok, ok, I'm kidding! Congrats you guys! I hope we are > invited to the wedding. We'll all wear our best leathers! > > Best wishes, > > Dale (the Horkster) > > > > > Tom Zell wrote: > > > > > > Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I > are > > engaged to be married!! ... and yes... romance and love are > still live in the world > > today... sometimes you really have to look for it to find it! > > > > -Tom Zell > > '86 VFR700/750F > > > > -Jeanette O'brien > > '85 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:07:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24050; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09430; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04902; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4C0B.9874BAE0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:02:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:02:11 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's my Babe a! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:05 AM >To: Tom Zell; 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX' >Cc: O'Brien, Jeannette; DC Cycles List >Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > >You are SO BAD!! This ball & chain intends to keep her bike & INSIST on >us getting new ones every few years!! >(anniversary gifts)? ; ) > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:03 AM >> To: Tom Zell >> Cc: Jeannette O'Brien; DC Cycles List >> Subject: Re: A note of thanks! (very, very long) >> >> Tom, >> >> Err, uh, hmm, what to say, what to say... >> >> >> How about, "Congratulations on the bike!" :-) >> >> Or maybe, "I hope the old ball-and-chain-to-be doesn't make you >> give up motorcycles!" :-) >> >> Ok, ok, I'm kidding! Congrats you guys! I hope we are >> invited to the wedding. We'll all wear our best leathers! >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Dale (the Horkster) >> >> >> >> >> Tom Zell wrote: >> > >> > >> > Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I >> are >> > engaged to be married!! ... and yes... romance and love are >> still live in the world >> > today... sometimes you really have to look for it to find it! >> > >> > -Tom Zell >> > '86 VFR700/750F >> > >> > -Jeanette O'brien >> > '85 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:22:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24218; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09868; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:22:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05191; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA06703; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:29:38 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'Tom Zell'" Cc: "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:23:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Get A Room! ---------- From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:02 AM To: 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX' Cc: 'DC Cycles List' Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) That's my Babe a! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:05 AM >To: Tom Zell; 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX' >Cc: O'Brien, Jeannette; DC Cycles List >Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > >You are SO BAD!! This ball & chain intends to keep her bike & INSIST on >us getting new ones every few years!! >(anniversary gifts)? ; ) > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:03 AM >> To: Tom Zell >> Cc: Jeannette O'Brien; DC Cycles List >> Subject: Re: A note of thanks! (very, very long) >> >> Tom, >> >> Err, uh, hmm, what to say, what to say... >> >> >> How about, "Congratulations on the bike!" :-) >> >> Or maybe, "I hope the old ball-and-chain-to-be doesn't make you >> give up motorcycles!" :-) >> >> Ok, ok, I'm kidding! Congrats you guys! I hope we are >> invited to the wedding. We'll all wear our best leathers! >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Dale (the Horkster) >> >> >> >> >> Tom Zell wrote: >> > >> > >> > Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I >> are >> > engaged to be married!! ... and yes... romance and love are >> still live in the world >> > today... sometimes you really have to look for it to find it! >> > >> > -Tom Zell >> > '86 VFR700/750F >> > >> > -Jeanette O'brien >> > '85 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:33:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24672; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10262; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.greennet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05854; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from balingwire ([208.192.4.61]) by mail.greennet.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-34567U2500L250S0) with SMTP id AAC127; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:31 -0500 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: ade@XXXXXX (Andrew Evans) To: , , , Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Avon Azaros falling apart Priority: normal In-reply-to: <014b01bd4bd6$915fc860$0299accf@default> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Message-ID: <19980310153327120.AAC127@balingwire> This is the post that people have been referring to when they say that Azaros fly apart. Thought you DC and Baltimore folks might be interested. Reply to me directly if you want -- I'm not on either of these lists. ------------------------- Date sent: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 13:45:11 -0800 From: Patrick Burns Organization: Factory Pro Tuning To: "exup-brotherhood@XXXXXX" Subject: EXUP Avon Azaros (grumble, grumble) Send reply to: Patrick Burns This is the _third_ Avon Azaro that chunked on our dyno. Was running a ZX9, keeping the surface temp under 150 degrees F (monitored with an infrared thermometer), had it inflated to 45psi to reduce carcass flex and head buildup in accordance with an Avon tech's suggestions, and it still blew chunks all over the room on the 11k rpm step test... while the owner watched. Thankfully, the tires were already toast and he was planning on mounting a new set of 207 street tires after we finished up with the jetting, so he got a kick out of it instead of getting upset. They might be neat tires to ride on, but I sure wouldn't mount a set on a big hp bike that was going to be running lots of mph. -- Patrick Burns Factory Pro Tuning patburns@XXXXXX http://www.factorypro.com -- Andrew Evans From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:33:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24681; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10297; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05874; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA05627; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:31:59 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C15D4@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: DC-Cycles list Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:33:15 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last weekend? Curtis? Still wanna lead? - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:41:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24788; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:41:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10648; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:41:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06089; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:41:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA17412; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA20709; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:40:38 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA20705; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:40:37 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4BF7.CFCD5E70@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:40:35 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:35:58 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 13 TEXT, 47 UUENCODE X-MS-Attachment: WINMAIL.DAT 0 00-00-1980 00:00 Hi guys, Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be appreciated. Thanks!! 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M%/!A+'-H%1$?$&XO4$1##PO4&_0O@P'0,BTT,4 V+38U M,S0@("HQ("!&87@SHQLP,RV0.3 Y-31S4$,%\#1P:!S2-QJ@-" R-/@M,3,: MH!H!#E ,,A/B_',T,N89QR\@#$ "T1KT"QOD%;$`.N ````+``(``0```!X` M< `!````&@```$YO;BUM;W1O(')E;&%T960Z(%!I`#T``0````$````` M````"P`I```````+`",```````(!?P`!````3P```#QC/553)6$]051434%) M3"5P/4%45"5L/4A114Y'7TU31S R+3DX,#,Q,#$U,S4U.%HM,S9 :'$M;7-G 7,#$N;G=E; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:41:00 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'DC-Cycles list'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:36:21 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 19 TEXT Count me in! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 7:33 AM >To: DC-Cycles list >Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! >Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last >weekend? >Curtis? Still wanna lead? > >- Jeannette > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:42:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24805; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10665; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:41:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06115; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:41:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA08156; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:40:20 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4C15D9@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "O'Brien, Jeannette" , DC-Cycles list Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:41:35 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Cool! Same place - Krispy Kreme - same time - what was it? 11?? - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:43 AM > To: O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles list > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > If its nice out I lead. > > Glenn Dysart > dysart@XXXXXX > > 84 V30 Magna > > > > I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! > > Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last > > weekend? > > Curtis? Still wanna lead? > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:54:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24953; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:54:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10895; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:54:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06500; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA07015; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:01:36 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'DC-Cycles list'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:55:18 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do-Nut shop? Is it going to be cold? I am a skiny boy you know. And I don't know If I can get my bike started in the cold. Curtis ---------- From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:33 AM To: DC-Cycles list Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last weekend? Curtis? Still wanna lead? - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 10:55:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24999; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:55:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10927; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:55:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06543; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:55:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA12547; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:54:00 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E665A@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'DC-Cycles list'" , "O'Brien, Jeannette" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:55:15 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain We'll stuff you full of donuts, doll!! Glenn said he'd lead, so if ya don't mind following Glenn, it looks like we have a leader! YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW RR!! It will start in the cold, smart alleck!! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM > To: 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > Do-Nut shop? Is it going to be cold? I am a skiny boy you know. And I > don't know If I can get my bike started in the cold. > Curtis > > ---------- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:33 AM > To: DC-Cycles list > Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! > Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last > weekend? > Curtis? Still wanna lead? > > - Jeannette > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:00:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25180; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:00:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11060; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:00:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06807; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:00:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA07073; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:07:57 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'DC-Cycles list'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:01:44 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Glenn, where do you plan to led us to? ---------- From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:42 AM To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles list Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Cool! Same place - Krispy Kreme - same time - what was it? 11?? - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:43 AM > To: O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles list > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > If its nice out I lead. > > Glenn Dysart > dysart@XXXXXX > > 84 V30 Magna > > > > I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! > > Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last > > weekend? > > Curtis? Still wanna lead? > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:03:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25269; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:03:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11133; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06914; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA22017; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:03:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA25469; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:03:06 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA25459; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:03:04 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4BFA.F2871C50@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:03:01 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'DC-Cycles list'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:58:21 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 30 TEXT Is this the same Ninja 500 you wanted to see me??? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 7:55 AM >To: 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >Do-Nut shop? Is it going to be cold? I am a skiny boy you know. And I >don't know If I can get my bike started in the cold. >Curtis > >---------- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:33 AM >To: DC-Cycles list >Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! >Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last >weekend? >Curtis? Still wanna lead? > >- Jeannette > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:04:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25289; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:04:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11143; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:04:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06930; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:04:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA14104; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:03:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA08865; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:03:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980310160347.TJCF4928@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:03:49 -0500 Message-ID: <35056464.A359423F@mci.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:03:48 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Viteri, Ursulina" CC: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Now moto related: Pistols References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Practice shooting with your left hand, this way you can still control the speed of your bike with your throttle hand while you are blasting away at the idiot cagers out there. :-) There. Now it's moto-related! Dale (the Horkster) PS: I don't think it's should be a crime to shoot someone who is using a cell phone in fast heavy traffic. Who's with me? :-) Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > > Hi guys, > > Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found > a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. > Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be > appreciated. > > Thanks!! > > Ursulina Viteri From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:12:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25450; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11364; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:12:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07276; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA17764; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:12:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:11:08 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6663@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "Viteri, Ursulina" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Now moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:12:23 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain How about someone reading the paper??!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:04 AM > To: Viteri, Ursulina > Cc: 'DC Cycles' > Subject: Re: Now moto related: Pistols > > Practice shooting with your left hand, > this way you can still control the speed > of your bike with your throttle hand while > you are blasting away at the idiot cagers > out there. :-) > > There. Now it's moto-related! > > > Dale (the Horkster) > > PS: I don't think it's should be a crime to > shoot someone who is using a cell phone in > fast heavy traffic. Who's with me? :-) > > > > Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > > > Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother > found > > a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target > practice use. > > Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be > > appreciated. > > > > Thanks!! > > > > Ursulina Viteri From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:15:46 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25484; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:15:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11421; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07370; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:15:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA19181; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:14:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA21266; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:13:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980310161400.TMVP4928@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:14:00 -0500 Message-ID: <350566C9.AB56C1F@mci.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:14:01 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles List , KZ LTD List , VJMC List Subject: All is right with the world... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...since Horkster got to take a ride on his recently repaired scoot (the 78 Kawi 1000 LTD). (Actually, I got it running on Saturday, (Re: front sprocket nut) and took a brief shakedown cruise, but the rainy weather Sunday and early Monday morning prevented a real ride until after work on Monday.) It was probably around still 60 degrees when I set out on my ride at 9:00 pm. (Well, I had to put the kids to bed first, bedtime stories and all!) Although the weather was cloudy and breezy and threatening rain, it was a perfect night for a ride, as far as I was concerned. I was in one of those mind sets where I desperately NEEDED to go ride, I had been without my bike for nearly two weeks awaiting parts, I was a junkie who needed my fix. Anyway, got to do about 75 miles down around Stafford, VA via backroads and nice smooth main roads before bedtime. Saw one deer crossing the road, (no danger, the cage in front of me had already stopped for it) and later on, what appeared to be a small black bear shuffling along the road near the woods closer to Stafford. I didn't get a good look, black fur doesn't reflect much from a 20 year old headlight, and I didn't stop to get a closer look. Still rather exciting nonetheless. The best part was as I was heading home, for a brief few minutes, all the clouds parted, the whole way across the sky, and everything was bathed in beautiful moonlight. I had to pull over and stargaze for a few moments (I was several miles from the bear at this point!). All in all, it was a wonderful ride, and a wonderful evening. Take care, Dale (the Horkster) 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 PS: Thanks again for everyone who emailed repair suggestions and answered my questions regarding the LTD. Much appreciated! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:16:08 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25489; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11430; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:16:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07382; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:16:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA25255; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA28610; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:15:26 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA28598; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:15:23 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4BFC.AA668850@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:15:19 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'Viteri, Ursulina'" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Now moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:10:23 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 42 TEXT Sorry, but cell phones are my bread and butter. Use them, but use them wisely. Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 8:04 AM >To: Viteri, Ursulina >Cc: 'DC Cycles' >Subject: Re: Now moto related: Pistols > >Practice shooting with your left hand, >this way you can still control the speed >of your bike with your throttle hand while >you are blasting away at the idiot cagers >out there. :-) > >There. Now it's moto-related! > > >Dale (the Horkster) > >PS: I don't think it's should be a crime to >shoot someone who is using a cell phone in >fast heavy traffic. Who's with me? :-) > > > >Viteri, Ursulina wrote: >> >> Hi guys, >> >> Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found >> a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. >> Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks!! >> >> Ursulina Viteri From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:18:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25525; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11467; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:18:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07468; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA06921; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:17:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA23513; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:17:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980310161759.TOFJ4928@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:17:59 -0500 Message-ID: <350567B8.986F1287@mci.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:18:00 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" CC: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Now moto related: Pistols References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6663@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BLAM! BLAM! BLAM!...and one more for good measure... BLAM! Just doing my civic duty! :-) Dale (the Horkster) O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > > How about someone reading the paper??!! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:04 AM > > To: Viteri, Ursulina > > Cc: 'DC Cycles' > > Subject: Re: Now moto related: Pistols > > > > Practice shooting with your left hand, > > this way you can still control the speed > > of your bike with your throttle hand while > > you are blasting away at the idiot cagers > > out there. :-) > > > > There. Now it's moto-related! > > > > > > Dale (the Horkster) > > > > PS: I don't think it's should be a crime to > > shoot someone who is using a cell phone in > > fast heavy traffic. Who's with me? :-) > > > > > > > > Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother > > found > > > a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target > > practice use. > > > Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be > > > appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks!! > > > > > > Ursulina Viteri From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:31:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25826; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:31:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11872; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08268; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4C17.56532410@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:26:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'DC-Cycles list'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:26:13 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And if you can't start... I definitley can... which means I get to ride it! Where do you live??? I'll be there first light Sunday morning! LOL! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'DC-Cycles list'; O'Brien, Jeannette >Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >We'll stuff you full of donuts, doll!! >Glenn said he'd lead, so if ya don't mind following Glenn, it looks like >we have a leader! >YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW RR!! It will start in the cold, smart alleck!! > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >> To: 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >> >> Do-Nut shop? Is it going to be cold? I am a skiny boy you know. And I >> don't know If I can get my bike started in the cold. >> Curtis >> >> ---------- >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:33 AM >> To: DC-Cycles list >> Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >> >> I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! >> Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last >> weekend? >> Curtis? Still wanna lead? >> >> - Jeannette >> >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:35:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25956; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11916; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:34:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08469; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:34:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id LAA29789; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:34:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma029777; Tue, 10 Mar 98 11:34:49 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Now moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:11 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Wisely = not when your vehicle is moving... whenever I hear one of those industry PSAs I wish they would just come out and say that. --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: Viteri, Ursulina [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:10 AM > To: 'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'; 'Viteri, Ursulina' > Cc: 'DC Cycles' > Subject: RE: Now moto related: Pistols > > Sorry, but cell phones are my bread and butter. Use them, but use > them > wisely. > > Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC > 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 8:04 AM > >To: Viteri, Ursulina > >Cc: 'DC Cycles' > >Subject: Re: Now moto related: Pistols > > > >Practice shooting with your left hand, > >this way you can still control the speed > >of your bike with your throttle hand while > >you are blasting away at the idiot cagers > >out there. :-) > > > >There. Now it's moto-related! > > > > > >Dale (the Horkster) > > > >PS: I don't think it's should be a crime to > >shoot someone who is using a cell phone in > >fast heavy traffic. Who's with me? :-) > > > > > > > >Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > >> > >> Hi guys, > >> > >> Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My > brother found > >> a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target > practice use. > >> Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be > >> appreciated. > >> > >> Thanks!! > >> > >> Ursulina Viteri From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:35:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25961; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11939; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08479; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA07418; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:42:23 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'DC-Cycles list'" , "'Tom Zell'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:35:38 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is LOL? ---------- From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:26 AM To: Clements, Curtis A; 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'DC-Cycles list' Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) And if you can't start... I definitley can... which means I get to ride it! Where do you live??? I'll be there first light Sunday morning! LOL! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'DC-Cycles list'; O'Brien, Jeannette >Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >We'll stuff you full of donuts, doll!! >Glenn said he'd lead, so if ya don't mind following Glenn, it looks like >we have a leader! >YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW RR!! It will start in the cold, smart alleck!! > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >> To: 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >> >> Do-Nut shop? Is it going to be cold? I am a skiny boy you know. And I >> don't know If I can get my bike started in the cold. >> Curtis >> >> ---------- >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:33 AM >> To: DC-Cycles list >> Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >> >> I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! >> Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last >> weekend? >> Curtis? Still wanna lead? >> >> - Jeannette >> >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:37:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26012; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11975; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08626; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4C18.18702250@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:31:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'DC-Cycles list'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:31:39 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laughing Out Loud.... LOL! How do you like that new RR anyway?? -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:36 AM >To: Tom Zell; 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'DC-Cycles list' >Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >What is LOL? > >---------- >From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:26 AM >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'DC-Cycles list' >Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >And if you can't start... I definitley can... which means I get to ride >it! Where do you live??? I'll be there first light Sunday morning! >LOL! > >-Tom > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >>To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'DC-Cycles list'; O'Brien, Jeannette >>Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >> >>We'll stuff you full of donuts, doll!! >>Glenn said he'd lead, so if ya don't mind following Glenn, it looks like >>we have a leader! >>YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW RR!! It will start in the cold, smart alleck!! >> >>- Jeannette >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >>> To: 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >>> Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >>> >>> Do-Nut shop? Is it going to be cold? I am a skiny boy you know. And I >>> don't know If I can get my bike started in the cold. >>> Curtis >>> >>> ---------- >>> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:33 AM >>> To: DC-Cycles list >>> Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >>> >>> I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! >>> Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last >>> weekend? >>> Curtis? Still wanna lead? >>> >>> - Jeannette >>> >>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 11:59:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26389; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:59:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA12251; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA09273; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:59:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA07657; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:06:44 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'DC-Cycles list'" , "'Tom Zell'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:00:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Were are we going Sunday? ---------- From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:32 AM To: Clements, Curtis A; 'DC-Cycles list' Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Laughing Out Loud.... LOL! How do you like that new RR anyway?? -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:36 AM >To: Tom Zell; 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'DC-Cycles list' >Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >What is LOL? > >---------- >From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:26 AM >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'O'Brien, Jeannette'; 'DC-Cycles list' >Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > >And if you can't start... I definitley can... which means I get to ride >it! Where do you live??? I'll be there first light Sunday morning! >LOL! > >-Tom > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >>To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'DC-Cycles list'; O'Brien, Jeannette >>Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >> >>We'll stuff you full of donuts, doll!! >>Glenn said he'd lead, so if ya don't mind following Glenn, it looks like >>we have a leader! >>YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW RR!! It will start in the cold, smart alleck!! >> >>- Jeannette >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:55 AM >>> To: 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >>> Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >>> >>> Do-Nut shop? Is it going to be cold? I am a skiny boy you know. And I >>> don't know If I can get my bike started in the cold. >>> Curtis >>> >>> ---------- >>> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:33 AM >>> To: DC-Cycles list >>> Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) >>> >>> I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! >>> Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last >>> weekend? >>> Curtis? Still wanna lead? >>> >>> - Jeannette >>> >>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 12:10:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26703; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:10:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12388; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:10:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlt5.dlt.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA09799; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:09:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803101709.MAA09799@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: from ANITA by dlt5.dlt.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id F4V74LXF; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:19:01 -0500 X-Sender: anita@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:10:20 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Anita Lauro Subject: Alternate Sunday Ride? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Not trying to take away from the Krispy Kreme ride... but since the last few group rides I've been on seem to have covered the same roads, and since the starting point is about 40 not-very-fun miles from my house, I'm thinking of heading west this Sunday, rather than south-east. Maybe Western Loudoun/Fauquier Counties or West Virginia (or both)... don't know how far yet, depends on the weather. Might try out a route from Dale Coyner's book or a ride sheet off of the web. Anyhow, thought I'd post to the list in case there were some lurking "western suburb" riders who were looking to start out a little closer to home and explore some points west. Otherwise it'll just be me, a full tank of gas, and my cell phone! Thanks! Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 12:10:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26701; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:10:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12384; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:09:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA09774; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:09:54 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565C3.00595350 ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:15:40 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C3.0057719A.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:57:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=pmf5Cjeh5OC7FSL06gXtSHPi4PorSGn9457neuj2VHhHj1I3nu1ZBDWu" --0__=pmf5Cjeh5OC7FSL06gXtSHPi4PorSGn9457neuj2VHhHj1I3nu1ZBDWu Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'd be interested...BTW, that web site worked out well for me...I subscribe to this list from my work account (shhhh! don't tell :-o) but usually miss any last-minute ride changes. The web site came through...had the directions in hand, woke up on time...hmmm, what went wrong? ;-) -Doug douglas_brashear@XXXXXX (Embedded image moved "O'Brien, Jeannette" at to file: AMS-Internet PIC21105.PCX) 03/10/98 10:46 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL cc: Douglas Brashear Subject: Ride Sunday (?) (?) I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last weekend? Curtis? 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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:33:02 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 6 TEXT >and since the starting point is about 40 not-very-fun miles from my house Anite, I know that song - west sounds good to me Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 12:55:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00523; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA13756; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:55:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from out2.ibm.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA15450; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:55:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm.net (slip-32-100-120-49.oh.us.ibm.net [32.100.120.49]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA99112; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:54:34 GMT Message-ID: <35057FA8.AB9AF855@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:00:09 -0500 From: "Robert W. Johnston" Reply-To: rjohns3@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Viteri, Ursulina" CC: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The P89 is a fair pistol. It will do groupings in the 1 to 2 inch range out of the box. I would reccommend a .45 cal. pistol over a 9mm any day of the week. The 9mm was designed for combat usage, and as such was optimized for wounding, rather than killing. The .45 has the largest wound path, and the greatest hydrostatic shock of all of the common and inexpensive lead bullets. This opinion is grounded in the imfamous swedish goat test of the 70s... I would reccommend a .22 lr pistol as your general practice piece. I use a Colt Woodsman for general practice and either my 45. Long Colt single action, or my .32 auto Beretta for concealed carry. Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > Hi guys, > > Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found > a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. > Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be > appreciated. > > Thanks!! > > Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC > 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > > Name: WINMAIL.DAT > WINMAIL.DAT Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) > Encoding: x-uuencode From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 13:59:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA05857; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA14255; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA22814; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id NAA10630; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:57:44 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6686@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "Clements, Curtis A" , "'DC-Cycles list'" , "O'Brien, Jeannette" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:58:59 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I guess whatever anyone wants. Hey, babe, I did a 7-hour ride one day!! You're forgetting, I was scared to do long rides when I first started, not now!! What does everyone think time-wise? I'll get up semi-early for donuts! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 2:01 PM > To: Clements, Curtis A; 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > I don't know, how far can you go? Your the light weight who doesn't > like to > go very far :-). Can we make it any earlier then 11:00? That's late > for me > and I usually party hardy on Saturday nights. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:02 AM > > To: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN; 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, > Jeannette' > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > Glenn, where do you plan to led us to? > > > > ---------- > > From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:42 AM > > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles > list > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > Cool! Same place - Krispy Kreme - same time - what was it? 11?? > > > > - Jeannette > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:43 AM > > > To: O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles list > > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > > > If its nice out I lead. > > > > > > Glenn Dysart > > > dysart@XXXXXX > > > > > > 84 V30 Magna > > > > > > > > > > I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain > again! > > > > Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last > > > > weekend? > > > > Curtis? Still wanna lead? > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 14:49:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06835; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:49:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14689; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.emeraldcoast.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA24504; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.49.47.131] by www.destin.net (NTMail 3.03.0014/7.aaik) with ESMTP id ca035882 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:57:07 -0600 Message-ID: <025101bd4c5c$d6a06520$832f31cc@saturn.onyxgroup.com> Reply-To: "Pete Slatcoff" From: "Pete Slatcoff" To: , "Viteri, Ursulina" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:35:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 If you are serious about your hand gun let me recommend a .50 cal Dessert Eagle. -----Original Message----- From: Robert W. Johnston To: Viteri, Ursulina Cc: 'DC Cycles' Date: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 12:19 PM Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols >The P89 is a fair pistol. It will do groupings in the 1 to 2 inch range out >of the box. I would reccommend a .45 cal. pistol over a 9mm any day of the >week. The 9mm was designed for combat usage, and as such was optimized for >wounding, rather than killing. The .45 has the largest wound path, and the >greatest hydrostatic shock of all of the common and inexpensive lead bullets. >This opinion is grounded in the imfamous swedish goat test of the 70s... > >I would reccommend a .22 lr pistol as your general practice piece. I use a >Colt Woodsman for general practice and either my 45. Long Colt single action, >or my .32 auto Beretta for concealed carry. > >Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found >> a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. >> Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks!! >> >> Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >> 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >> >> Name: WINMAIL.DAT >> WINMAIL.DAT Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) >> Encoding: x-uuencode > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 14:51:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06910; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14717; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:51:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA24714; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A9A41CD055A; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:51:00 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980310134841.009e9c50@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:48:41 -0500 To: "'DC Cycles'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:35 AM 3/10/98 -0800, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: >Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found >a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. > Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be >appreciated. Well, I know that Ruger discriminates against motorcyclists, or used to - the AMA had a number of articles about Ruger discriminatory health insurance for their employees. I can't recall many details now, but part had to do with blaming the motorcyclist/employee for all accidents and denying health insurance, no matter who caused the accident. Helmet use, not required in New Hampshire, was also an issue. The AMA pointed out that it was pretty hypocritical of Ruger to sell firearms, with their accompanying personal responsibility and death toll, and then to discriminate against bikers obeying the law. The AMA pointed out that drunken car drivers hurting themselves in wrecks (and breaking laws in the process) were covered by Ruger health insurance, but law-abiding motorcyclists were not. The AMA tried to enter into dialogue with Ruger, who agreed to meet and then told the AMA to fuck off. Ruger may make good guns, but they don't think much of people. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 14:57:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA07003; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14793; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA24883; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4C34.A254AAB0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:55:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:55:56 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 23 TEXT Man, Jeanette & Tom getting married, Ursulina with guns - what's become of this list? ---------- From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:35 AM To: 'DC Cycles' Subject: Non-moto related: Pistols Hi guys, Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be appreciated. Thanks!! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:05:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07259; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:05:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15175; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:05:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA25239; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:05:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4C35.BA57B610@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:03:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Cc: , , Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:03:46 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 135 TEXT Soon-to-be-another-married-bike-couple, I'm so happy for the both of you! Although Dale and I kid a lot (we dated 6 years before marrying and we've been married 5 years), we still love each other the way you two must feel now. (Tracy now wrestles keyboard from evil, mushy twin.....) I love the idea of the stretch white Gold Wing......Wish you many years of riding and loving.... Tracy ---------- From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, March 09, 1998 5:38 PM To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Cc: 'jlobrien@XXXXXX'; 'zellto@XXXXXX'; 'zellto@XXXXXX' Subject: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Hi folks! I have recently come to a very joyous point in my life and I thought I might share it with all of you because without you all and the list, this might not have happened. Please read on! And Kevin... please bare with me as you've already heard this one... About three and a half months ago I came across a post on the VF/VFR list that Jeannette had sent in regards to finding fellow riders in the D.C. area. She said that she had just purchased her VF500 and was looking for people to ride with. Well, I tried responding back to her through her personal email address and the VF/VFR list. Unfortunately, I did not get a reply back that afternoon so I posted to the VF/VFR list again trying to find her. I finally got a reply back right before Thanksgiving. We got to talking a little by email and had somewhat sorta made plans to meet up for a group ride with her friends on the following Monday. She had also told me about finding local riders through the DC-Cycles list. Well, as luck would have it, I had to work as usual and because of my responsibilities I couldn't take the day off. I was also seeing someone at the time and out of respect for the other person I bowed out. I knew that if I met Jeannette I would end up going out with her. It was just one of those feelings. Now fast-forward about two months.....It was the middle of January and I was finally starting to get over the flu. My interest in my pc and the VFR had started to perk up again so I decided to start checking out the internet for parts and such. Andrew Reveles(from the VFR list)was just finishing his Project Phoenix VFR so I was getting psyched. I needed(and still need) to find an F2 front wheel to complete the suspension conversion on the VFR. It was then that I came across the DC-Cycles list. I had remembered Jeannette giving me information about the list when we talked before so I decided to join and see if I could get some help finding stuff. I saw a few posts from Jeannette and the interest was sparked again. At about the same time Leon was setting up his Lean Angles contest/get together out at the Prince William Cnty Pkwy park&ride lot. My VFR was down at the time(waiting for the wheel) but I decided to show up anyway to come out and meet everyone. Most of all I wanted to meet Jeannette. I was still seeing that same person(things were not working out, however) but there was a feeling that I had that I just had to act upon. I finally got to meet her and basically we hit it off from the start. After talking with her and Collin for a while(I did meet everyone who showed) everyone decided on lunch. We ended up at Bob Evans and I was fortunate enough to sit next to her for the time that we were there. At first we were chatting with everyone at the table making the usual conversations, but then we just started talking with each other. I even shared part of my lunch with her. We then got onto the subject of Titanic. I explained some of my views on it and asked her if she had seen it. When I found that she had not, I told her that I would be glad to see it again if she wanted to go. She told me that she would like to and I left it at that. We also managed to exchange our interests in body piercing's, my nipple, her navel. Things were rolling along quite nicely!! We finished eating and everyone decided to part. Jeannette, Collin, my friend Lenzy, and myself decided to hang out in the parking lot for a while longer. We talked on about a number of subjects. Anything was good for me because I just wasn't ready to say goodbye. Jeannette did manage to talk me into putting the VFR back together so I could come out with it for Lean Angles part 2. We said our good-byes and left. All the way home, the only thing I could do was talk about Jeannette. I must have talked my friend's ear off. I got home and started working on the bike. Three hours later my brother and I (and my Pit Bull, Zeus) were pulling the VFR through the mud in my backyard. I got the bike cleaned off and had it ready for the morning. I got to the park and ride and the only people there were Ursulina, Collin and his wife Penny, and Leon with his daughter. No Jeannette!!! I was bummed but I figured there was a reason. So we shoot ahead to later that night. I was on the phone with Lenzy and I got this strange page. I instantly knew it was Jeannette so I hung up with him and called her right back. I talked to her for a few minutes and finalized plans to see Titanic that Tuesday. I was very, very happy! I picked up Jeannette to see Titanic and we were off. It was so nice seeing the movie with her and by the end of the evening I knew I was falling for her. I took her back to her house and after hours of standing in the rain talking and such I decided it was time to go... but not without a kiss. I caressed her face in my hands and kissed her. I swear you could have heard a pin drop. I felt the earth move and at that moment I knew that fate had finally brought me to my soulmate. I had never felt anything like that before in my life and according to her the feeling was mutual. The following weekend we spent the whole time together. I was in heaven! Now we shoot ahead again to Valentine's weekend. We had a nice long weekend together, and to make things plain and simple, we professed our love to one another. It was really fast in the making, but we both knew it was meant to be! Finally, I had found the love that I had been searching for all my life and she the same. Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are engaged to be married!! We went out Saturday searching for our diamond and we found it. Now we're just waiting on the setting. I asked for her parents permission Saturday evening and they happily said yes. When I finally pick up the ring, I will propose to her( I wanted to have it with me of course)! We are to be married on March 27th, 1999. We can hardly wait!! Jeanette and I would like to extend our thanks to you all on the DC-Cycles list and the VF/VFR list for without them we may never had met one another... and yes... romance and love are still alive in the world today... sometimes you really have to look for it to find it! -Tom Zell '86 VFR700/750F -Jeanette O'brien '85 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:07:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07302; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:07:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15270; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:07:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA25300; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:07:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.34.240.12] (1Cust12.tnt1.tco2.da.uu.net [153.34.240.12]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24985 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:07:21 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:06:25 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) >>I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are engaged to be married!! > >That's GREAT for you, but what about the rest of us??? ;-) > >Seriously, though, I wish you both the best and I'm glad that Jeanette >had the good taste to select a fellow biker. > >So now we gotta go and find a stretched white GoldWing... [Sean Penn/Ridgemont High voice] My dad's got an awesome set of tools dude.... Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:18:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07630; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:18:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15453; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:18:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from drquest.digex.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA25838; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:18:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.17.2.20 (pix000140.staff.digex.net [206.205.168.152]) by drquest.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA11453; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:18:19 -0500 X-Mailer: InterCon tcpCONNECT4 4.0.2 (Macintosh) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9803101520.AA22466@172.17.2.20> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:20:22 -0500 From: "Matt Elliott - DIGEX" To: Chris Norloff , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: Inline > At 07:35 AM 3/10/98 -0800, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > >Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My > >brother found a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it > >for target practice use. > > Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be > >appreciated. For those who discriminate against Ruger, another excellent choice for a 9MM would be a Browning Hi-Power. ($400-$500 in gun shops) Smooth gun, not too expensive to crank out 50 rounds or so. I agree with (I forget who), buy a .22 caliber for practice - you can blow out 500 .22 rounds for the cost of 50 9MM rounds. This is turning into the dc-cycles-shooters mailing list ;-) Riding and shooting, my two favorite pastimes... (I'm from the boonies of Western PA, where we had a lot of woods to shoot around in..) Matt 95 Nighthawk 750 Browning Hi-Power Ruger Mark II .22 Ithaca Model 37 20 ga Winchester 69 .22 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:25:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07770; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15559; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26161; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:25:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id MAA29782; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:24:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id MAA10682; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:24:31 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id MAA10625; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:24:26 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4C1F.746316B0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:24:21 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:18:29 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 34 TEXT I know, I know. Weird, huh? Must be spring time. BTW: My mom keeps wondering why I'm trying to be like a boy. Hardly!!! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX [SMTP:tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:56 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols > >Man, Jeanette & Tom getting married, Ursulina with guns - what's become of >this list? > >---------- >From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:35 AM >To: 'DC Cycles' >Subject: Non-moto related: Pistols > >Hi guys, > >Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found a >good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. Any >comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be appreciated. > >Thanks!! > >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:36:24 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08285; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15978; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:36:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26932; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:36:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA26787 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:36:04 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:36:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:38:19 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 28 TEXT >This is turning into the dc-cycles-shooters mailing list ;-) Riding and >shooting, my two favorite pastimes... I tend to prefer my Walther PPKS for carry - discreet, but effective for those serious social occasions. Michael J. AMA IBA '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX 1100GP NRA Walther PPKS (9mm kurz) Ruger #1V (22-250) CAR-15 (5.56) Anschutz (.22) S&W 422 (.22) Winchester 43 (.22) S&W 66 (.357) Browning Buckmark (.22) Ruger 10-22 (.22) and the list goes on dah - dah - dah - dum - dah dah dah dah dum and the list goes on... (with apologies to Sonny & Cher) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:36:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08301; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15998; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:36:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26952; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4C39.8E241C60@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:31:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'jlobrien@XXXXXX'" Subject: re:A note of thanks!... Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:31:10 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks everyone for the warm wishes and the congrat's and all that nice stuff.... Jeannette and I really appreciate it! We're registering at Coleman Power Sport so have your credit cards ready! And BTW... Anyone know of someone who'd like to donate a pair of 916's for us to ride away on?? We're not really into the whole stretched Gold Wing thing!!! LOL! -Tom From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:37:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08332; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:37:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA16032; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26979; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:37:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id PAA14052; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:36:07 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6692@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Viteri, Ursulina'" , "'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:37:24 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I was asked that when I attempted to BMX- bike it down a hill & cracked my front tooth in half when I was 9. I think I thought I was Speed Racer, without the car. The best gun I've ever shot was the AK 47. It goes fully automatic on you if you fire it for a long enough time!! Perhaps we have a little more testosterone than the average female(?) ; ) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Viteri, Ursulina [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 3:18 PM > To: 'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols > > I know, I know. Weird, huh? Must be spring time. > > BTW: My mom keeps wondering why I'm trying to be like a boy. > Hardly!!! > > Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC > 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX > [SMTP:tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:56 AM > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX > >Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols > > > >Man, Jeanette & Tom getting married, Ursulina with guns - what's > become of > >this list? > > > >---------- > >From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:35 AM > >To: 'DC Cycles' > >Subject: Non-moto related: Pistols > > > >Hi guys, > > > >Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother > found a > >good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice > use. Any > >comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be > appreciated. > > > >Thanks!! > > > >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC > >202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:49:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08728; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA16246; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27398; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA28320 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:48:39 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:48:39 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:50:53 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 6 TEXT >Perhaps we have a little more testosterone than the average female(?) Perhaps, but it doesn't show... ;-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:49:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08733; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:49:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA16242; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27396; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24958 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11682 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803102048.PAA11682@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:48:37 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Jordan, Michael" " at Mar 10, 98 12:38:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I still have a Daisy BB gun in my old bedroom in my folk's house. Would be kind of difficult to pump when riding though. Unless you can ride like Reno Reins. Louis > >This is turning into the dc-cycles-shooters mailing list ;-) Riding and > >shooting, my two favorite pastimes... > > I tend to prefer my Walther PPKS for carry - discreet, but effective for > those serious social occasions. > > Michael J. > AMA > IBA > '86 SRX-6 > '93 GSX 1100GP > NRA > Walther PPKS (9mm kurz) > Ruger #1V (22-250) > CAR-15 (5.56) > Anschutz (.22) > S&W 422 (.22) > Winchester 43 (.22) > S&W 66 (.357) > Browning Buckmark (.22) > Ruger 10-22 (.22) > > and the list goes on > dah - dah - dah - dum - dah dah dah dah dum > and the list goes on... > > (with apologies to Sonny & Cher) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 15:53:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08795; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:53:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA16327; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from DONALD.CDER.FDA.GOV by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27560; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr.cder.fda.gov by fdaserv.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.1-8 #21467) id <01IUI7S0IHHS8ZF1SB@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:17:31 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:08:59 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta DONALD; Relayed; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:08:59 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:08:52 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy 301-594-5672 FAX 301-480-8329 Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols In-reply-to: <025101bd4c5c$d6a06520$832f31cc@saturn.onyxgroup.com> To: DC Cycles Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:08:52 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: E1014IHA39OFO X400-MTS-identifier: [;95805101308991/2416212@FDACD] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 If you are serious about dessert let me recommend the chocolate layer cake at Hamburger Hamlet... Kirk >If you are serious about your hand gun let me recommend a .50 cal >Dessert Eagle. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:02:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09009; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:02:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16461; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:02:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA27810; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:01:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA17144; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:01:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA03909; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:01:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980310210126.PGKK27160@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:01:26 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:54 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Anita Lauro CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Alternate Sunday Ride? X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980310210126.PGKK27160@[166.41.242.141]> I think I'd like to get out of the Springfield/Lorton/Clifton area as well. Anita, pick a good ride from Dales book. I'm gonna try and hook up with you. What time? Where? Todd 703.644.2695 Message-Id: <199803101709.MAA09799@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:10:20 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Anita Lauro Subject: Alternate Sunday Ride? Not trying to take away from the Krispy Kreme ride... but since the last few group rides I've been on seem to have covered the same roads, and since the starting point is about 40 not-very-fun miles from my house, I'm thinking of heading west this Sunday, rather than south-east. Maybe Western Loudoun/Fauquier Counties or West Virginia (or both)... don't know how far yet, depends on the weather. Might try out a route from Dale Coyner's book or a ride sheet off of the web. Anyhow, thought I'd post to the list in case there were some lurking "western suburb" riders who were looking to start out a little closer to home and explore some points west. Otherwise it'll just be me, a full tank of gas, and my cell phone! Thanks! Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:03:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09028; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16474; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA27861; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id QAA01368 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA01624 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:01:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980310210128.PGKN27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:01:28 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:00 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: DC-Cycles list Subject: Re: MARRC Cornerworking Training - Reminder X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980310210128.PGKN27160@[166.41.242.141]> Anyone beside me from the VA side interested in this? I think I'll be making my way up. Gonna try some cornerworking when I have spare weekends this summer. Todd 703.644.2695 ===================================================================== Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:48:52 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy Reply-To: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: MARRC Cornerworking Training - Reminder Message-ID: Who: Anyone interested in learing how to cornerwork When: Saturday, March 14, 4pm to 8;30pm Where: Four Corners Recreation Center, Silver Spring, Maryland Why:The mid-Atlantic Roadracing Club (MARRC) has been providing top-quality safety crews for our motorcycle races for more than ten years. The Race Emergency School is our annual work session designed to teach volunteers how to be part of the best cornerworking crew in the country. You will be trained on cornerworkers' roles and duties, flags and flagging, hand signals, personal safety, radio procedures, bike pick-up and inspection, oil cleanup and other issues important to a cornerworker. A light dinner will be provided, but itf you need more substantial fare, please feel free to bring your own. The benefits of working with the MARRC Safety Crew include complimentary: Admission to the race track Lunch daily and dinner on Saturday at the track Safety Crew tee shirt MARRC Membership New friends, great times, and more! For more information, feel free to contact any of the following: David Rickman - (703)435-1223 Rodger Bacon - (703)379-8918 - rababacon@XXXXXX Wendy Karppi - (410)451-8382 - halfpint@XXXXXX Myself (Brian McCoy) (301)445-4451 - (e-mails at the bottom) Directions: >From the Washington beltway, go north on either route 29 (colesville Rd) or route 193 (University Blvd). At the junction of 29 and 193, go north on 29 towards Columbia. The second left is Southwood Ave. Follow Southwood to the rec center. hope to see all of you there!!! (ok, so I won't seen anyone there, cause I'm not going! ha, sorry.. For those who do get involved, I'll see ya at the track!) Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com\motorcity\1319 (OLD Homepage - view at your own risk) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:04:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09047; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:04:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16497; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:04:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA27891; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:04:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id QAA00401; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:07:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:07:55 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, zell@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX, zellto@XXXXXX, zellto@XXXXXX Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX wrote: ...stuff clipped... > > I love the idea of the stretch white Gold Wing......Wish you many years of > riding and loving.... Exactly what kind of "riding" did you mean here? ...sorry, but the question begged to be asked! :-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:05:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09090; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:05:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16517; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA27932; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4C3D.93FE1420@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:59:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Viteri, Ursulina'" , "'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:59:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The best(most interesting) weapon I've ever fired was a genuine Chinese military issue bolt-action rifle. I don't know what model it was, but I know it was about 60 years old. Man did that thing have some major kick to it! It also had the complete bayonet assembly in the stock along with instructions for use(I believe).... Pretty neat! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 3:37 PM >To: 'Viteri, Ursulina'; 'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols > >I was asked that when I attempted to BMX- bike it down a hill & cracked >my front tooth in half when I was 9. I think I thought I was Speed >Racer, without the car. >The best gun I've ever shot was the AK 47. It goes fully automatic on >you if you fire it for a long enough time!! >Perhaps we have a little more testosterone than the average female(?) >; ) > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Viteri, Ursulina [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 3:18 PM >> To: 'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols >> >> I know, I know. Weird, huh? Must be spring time. >> >> BTW: My mom keeps wondering why I'm trying to be like a boy. >> Hardly!!! >> >> Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >> 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX >> [SMTP:tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:56 AM >> >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX >> >Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols >> > >> >Man, Jeanette & Tom getting married, Ursulina with guns - what's >> become of >> >this list? >> > >> >---------- >> >From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:35 AM >> >To: 'DC Cycles' >> >Subject: Non-moto related: Pistols >> > >> >Hi guys, >> > >> >Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother >> found a >> >good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice >> use. Any >> >comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be >> appreciated. >> > >> >Thanks!! >> > >> >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >> >202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >> > >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:08:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09116; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:08:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16553; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:08:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA28007; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id NAA10036; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id NAA22183; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:07:27 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id NAA22177; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:07:26 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4C25.77AF9AE0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:07:24 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:02:44 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 70 TEXT Damn, a AK47 - COOOOOOOOOL! Heck, big air is great stuff but not on a street bike - IMHO More testosterone? Well, maybe just a little. :) Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 12:37 PM >To: 'Viteri, Ursulina'; 'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols > >I was asked that when I attempted to BMX- bike it down a hill & cracked >my front tooth in half when I was 9. I think I thought I was Speed >Racer, without the car. >The best gun I've ever shot was the AK 47. It goes fully automatic on >you if you fire it for a long enough time!! >Perhaps we have a little more testosterone than the average female(?) >; ) > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Viteri, Ursulina [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 3:18 PM >> To: 'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols >> >> I know, I know. Weird, huh? Must be spring time. >> >> BTW: My mom keeps wondering why I'm trying to be like a boy. >> Hardly!!! >> >> Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >> 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX >> [SMTP:tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:56 AM >> >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX >> >Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols >> > >> >Man, Jeanette & Tom getting married, Ursulina with guns - what's >> become of >> >this list? >> > >> >---------- >> >From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:35 AM >> >To: 'DC Cycles' >> >Subject: Non-moto related: Pistols >> > >> >Hi guys, >> > >> >Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother >> found a >> >good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice >> use. Any >> >comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be >> appreciated. >> > >> >Thanks!! >> > >> >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >> >202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >> > >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:09:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09144; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16573; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:09:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA28031; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:09:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4C3E.17FC83B0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:03:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Jordan, Michael'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:03:40 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey.. I can vouch for that one!! ; ) -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Jordan, Michael [SMTP:mike@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 3:51 PM >To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols > >>Perhaps we have a little more testosterone than the average female(?) > >Perhaps, but it doesn't show... ;-) > >Michael J. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:28:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09504; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA17027; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:27:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from sundown.northgrum.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA28618; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:27:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from puff.northgrum.com (puff.northgrum.com [157.127.103.139]) by sundown.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA11377 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:27:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from xcgca004.northgrum.com ([157.127.103.103]) by puff.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA12512 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by XCGCA004 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:27:42 -0800 Message-ID: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF550@xcgva001.grumman.com> From: "Meier, Christopher" To: DC-Cycles list , "'Todd Peer'" Subject: RE: MARRC Cornerworking Training - Reminder Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:25:17 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Yeah, I'm interested. I'll go up with you. Brian, can you set your own weekends, or do they (MARRC) want to schedule you in advance for a predetermined set of weekends through the season? I am happy to volunteer time, but my work schedule can be unpredictable and I travel out of town on many weekends, and thus need to be flexible. --chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Christopher A. Meier meierch@XXXXXX Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA 1994 RF900R AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ > ---------- > From: Todd Peer[SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 4:00 PM > To: DC-Cycles list > Subject: Re: MARRC Cornerworking Training - Reminder > > > Anyone beside me from the VA side interested in this? I think I'll > be making my way up. Gonna try some cornerworking when I have spare > weekends this summer. > > Todd > 703.644.2695 > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 16:52:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09992; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:52:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA17697; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:52:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA29432; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id QAA25002 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:52:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA15367 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:52:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980310215203.LYKX27632@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:52:03 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:51 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: Chris Norloff...and everyone else X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980310215203.LYKX27632@[166.41.242.141]> Check out the versatile, spacy looking ST Hack http://connexus.apana.org.au/~pholt/flexit.htm From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 17:01:09 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10128; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA17882; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA29746; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.75.159]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA14659; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:00:30 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "Viteri, Ursulina" Cc: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:56:45 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4c6f$6b61e320$9f4b440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Ursulina-- My friend has one and it's quite nice. Possibly a bit large, but that depends on you. Ruger's employee health insurance, however, does not cover motorcycle accidents, though it does cover drunk-driving accidents. I realize that buying a used gun doesn't put money in Bill Ruger's pocket, but it's not something I'd do. How much is it? See ya Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 17:04:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10165; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:04:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA17929; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:03:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA29796; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA26232 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:03:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:03:42 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: Re: Non-moto related: shooting! In-Reply-To: <9803101520.AA22466@172.17.2.20> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > expensive to crank out 50 rounds or so. I agree with (I forget who), buy a > .22 caliber for practice - you can blow out 500 .22 rounds for the cost of 50 > 9MM rounds. Hrm, does that mean I strap on my Anshutz and Finwerkbau rifles for the next trip? ($2,500 22cal, and $1,000 pellet rifle respectivly - world champion quality.. :), Yes, I can shoot too...) Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 17:12:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10363; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA18253; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00119; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:12:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id RAA03849 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:11:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA12261 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:11:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980310221146.YBYD4928@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:11:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:11 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: In Search of....No MC Content... X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980310221146.YBYD4928@[166.41.242.141]> Still in search of. If anyone is interested, details follow. If you know someone who might be interested, I'd appreciate the referral and will pay you $25 if they turn out to be my next roommate. If it's you, then $50 off the first month. This is really a great deal as the rent covers two rooms for your exclusive use! Did I mention I live close to some pretty cool riding roads? Well, I do! You work in DC/Pentagon/Crystal City? Ride to work on the I95 HOV! Only 20 minutes to the Potomac river! If you ride with me, that's 10 minutes!!! Wahooo! Call me and thanks, Todd ps, If you/they would like to move in immediately, call me now and I'll work out a good deal for you. I have a room available right now! ---------------Look!--------Look!---------Look!--------------------- ISO one professional M/F, non-smoker, 24-40 years old, no pets, w/references, to share a very large home with me. The home is in a quiet neighborhood three miles west of Springfield Mall and the new Park and Ride/Metro station. The house is less than a mile off of the Springfield/Franconia Parkway, and w/in a mile of four popular grocers. The home is bi-level with wall-to-wall carpet, central heating and AC and is situated as follows: Upper floor: - Large kitchen with d/w, gas stove, micro-wave - Hardwood floored dining room with walkout to screened porch - Furnished living room, TV. - attic w/scuttle access - Full Bathroom - Bedroom - Master bed/bath Lower floor: - Two Bedrooms - Wash room with w/d, ironing - Furnished Rec-Room, TV, fireplace, darts - Full Bathroom For rent are the two downstairs bedrooms. That's right two rooms for the price of one (in most locations). The larger room is a corner room and is approximately 13x12 ft with a 5x2 closet and two windows. The smaller room is approximately 9x12 with a 4x2 closet and a single window. My roommate uses the smaller room as his office. The bathroom downstairs is your responsibility and on occassion could be used by guests. Rent: $550 + $350 sec. deposit w/lease, includes all utilities (Gas, Electric, Water, Cable, Trash-Pickup, Telephone). Long distance phone calls charged monthly. $590 with less than 1-year lease. Contact: Todd (703) 644-2695, or e-mail todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Water/Sewer $ 25 Trash Pickup 20 Phone 35 Cable 50 Gas 60 Electric 90 Maid Service 50 (approximate / negotiable) ---- $330 / 2 = $165 in amenities, making rent $410 for two rooms!!!!!!! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 17:18:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10518; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA18712; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:18:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00387; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4C48.58DEBAB0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:17:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Cc: Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:17:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 25 TEXT Usually I try to be careful about how I put things (from being married to Dale) - but you got me - choose your own meaning - all riding is fun.... ---------- From: Morris Berman[SMTP:mberman@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 4:07 PM To: Horstman, Tracy L @ MAN Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; zell@XXXXXX; jlobrien@XXXXXX; zellto@XXXXXX; zellto@XXXXXX Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) On Tue, 10 Mar 1998 tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX wrote: ...stuff clipped... > > I love the idea of the stretch white Gold Wing......Wish you many years of > riding and loving.... Exactly what kind of "riding" did you mean here? ...sorry, but the question begged to be asked! :-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 17:36:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10739; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:36:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA19241; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:36:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00801; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:36:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA27191 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:10:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:10:03 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: RE: MARRC Cornerworking Training - Reminder In-Reply-To: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF550@xcgva001.grumman.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Meier, Christopher wrote: > > Brian, can you set your own weekends, or do they (MARRC) want to > schedule you in advance for a predetermined set of weekends through the > season? I am happy to volunteer time, but my work schedule can be > unpredictable and I travel out of town on many weekends, and thus need > to be flexible. > It's a very free thing - to the point that you show up at 7am and they let you know where to go.. if you're not there the next day, someone else covers for you. When I started, I litteraly called on the Thursday before the race (gates open Friday at 6pm), and got directions.. then showed up for one day - I learned on the fly.. Pretty simple, very relaxed stuff (cept when something happens right infront of you!). Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 18:20:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11542; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:20:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19638; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:19:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02082; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:19:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from my-workstation (client196-127-230.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.230]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id SAA24272; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:17:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980310180913.009ba710@wingate> X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:09:13 -0500 To: rjohns3@XXXXXX, "Viteri, Ursulina" From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols Cc: "'DC Cycles'" In-Reply-To: <35057FA8.AB9AF855@ibm.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Having said my piece (not punny!), my next will definitely be a Springfield 1911. :) MET At 01:00 PM 3/10/98 -0500, Robert W. Johnston wrote: >The P89 is a fair pistol. It will do groupings in the 1 to 2 inch range out >of the box. I would reccommend a .45 cal. pistol over a 9mm any day of the >week. The 9mm was designed for combat usage, and as such was optimized for >wounding, rather than killing. The .45 has the largest wound path, and the >greatest hydrostatic shock of all of the common and inexpensive lead bullets. >This opinion is grounded in the imfamous swedish goat test of the 70s... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 18:21:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11563; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:21:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19661; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:21:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02101; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:21:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from my-workstation (client196-127-230.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.230]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id SAA24264; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:16:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980310180205.009b09c0@wingate> X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:02:05 -0500 To: "Viteri, Ursulina" , "'DC Cycles'" From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey Ursulina, I have one that's about a year old. Very well made, smooth action. Can hang up on +P cartridges due to some blowback into the firing pin hole, but I've never had this problem with standard rounds. Dot sights are a bit weak; I really like the ones on the Glock, and am looking for replacements. After comparing it to a couple of other (mostly rental) weapons, I find that it absorbs recoil very smoothly. The "step" (what's the right word?) where the trigger pull gets heavy is very pronounced, and causes me not to be smooth sometimes, but then, you never don't know when it's about to go off. :) This is the one other thing I'm thinking of having a gunsmith look at, just to ease the transition a little. I used to work with a guy whose wife had one, with recoil compensator and integrated laser (okay, a little overkill maybe), and he was a big fan of it. Hmm -- ramblings, not very organized. :) Let me know if there's anything I missed. MET At 07:35 AM 3/10/98 -0800, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: >Anyone know much about the Ruger P89 autoloading pistol? My brother found >a good deal on one and I'm considering getting it for target practice use. > Any comments or suggestions? I'm a novice so any advice will be >appreciated. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 18:24:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11627; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:24:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19690; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:24:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02146; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:24:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA15623; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:24:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv3-13.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.77) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma015556; Tue Mar 10 17:23:21 1998 Message-ID: <35058A48.3A26@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:45:28 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Todd Peer Subject: Re: MARRC Cornerworking Training - Reminder References: <19980310210128.PGKN27160@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Anyone beside me from the VA side interested in this? I think I'll >be making my way up. Gonna try some cornerworking when I have spare >weekends this summer. >Todd Todd, I will be attending from WV, but the way the forecast looks probably wont be riding unless it gets a bit above freezing by 0700 on saturday morning -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 18:38:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11910; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19819; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02544; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:38:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from rdt.erols.com (207-172-121-81.s81.tnt15.brd.erols.com [207.172.121.81]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13013 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:38:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803102338.SAA13013@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Roy D. Turner" To: Subject: Another Sat. Ride? Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:37:31 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone interested in riding this Saturday? Forecast is for 52 degrees. I would like to depart around 12:00 from a central location. I am open to ideas re: destination. By the way, last weeks ride to Colonial Beach was great!!! Had a total of three riders and one passenger. Roy D. Turner, Esq. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 18:39:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11918; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:39:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19830; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:39:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02570; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.33] (unverified [207.226.128.33]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:38:52 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Testing... Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 18:39:56 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Has this list been completely dead over the weekend or is it this server >at work malfunctioning again!!?? Completely dead, or both of our servers are broken:) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 19:04:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12137; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA19998; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:04:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA02995; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:04:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from Vamoto@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1IYJa05359 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:04:00 -0500 (EST) From: Vamoto Message-ID: <1b3f47b.3505d4f2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:04:00 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Digest Mode Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 please return me to normal mode and take me off of digest. thanks From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 19:08:02 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12186; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA20018; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:07:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA03065; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:07:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA20711; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:07:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv3-13.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.77) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma020675; Tue Mar 10 18:06:57 1998 Message-ID: <35059482.7BC0@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:29:06 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Jordan, Michael" Subject: Re: VF list References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jordan, Michael wrote: > > Do any of you VF types out there have the subscription address for the > VF mailing list? > > My elder son, Sean, just got his first scooter last Saturday (a VERY > clean '83 750 Interceptor w/39K miles) and I know he would appreciate > this source of info. > > Michael J. > '93 GSX 1100GP > '86 SRX-6 VF/VFR: DESCRIPTION: Honda VF/VFR Discussion (automated) DIGEST AVAILABLE? Yes ADMIN ADDRESS: majordomo@XXXXXX TO SUBSCRIBE: Message body: "subscribe vfr" or "subscribe vfr-digest" LIST OWNER: john@XXXXXX WWW URL: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~john/vfr-list Heres what I have on the VF mailing list, hope it helps. -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 19:20:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12331; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA20116; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA03274; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:19:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.55] (unverified [207.226.128.55]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:19:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Saturday Ride (no rain ;) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 19:20:16 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "John C. Kozyn" , "dc-cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >So what about the rest of you slackers? OK, Tom and Jeannette had an >excuse (Congrats you guys - I love love stories :) Was heading to my parents house to do some work on my bike. Saw my brother and father riding in opposite direction. Did a u turn, joined 'em for a couple of hours. >Did _anyone_ ride on Sunday? Why don't I think so? :^P Anyways y'all, >you missed a nice ride. Hey, for that matter, did anyone do like I did, >and play hookey and ride today? I did ride Sunday:p Rode to my parents house to do the work on the bike that I skipped on Saturday:) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 19:20:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12336; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA20126; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA03278; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.55] (unverified [207.226.128.55]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:19:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 19:20:30 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Tom Zell" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" cc: "'jlobrien@XXXXXX'" , "'zellto@XXXXXX'" , "'zellto@XXXXXX'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Well, now it's March 9th and I'm happy to say that Jeannette and I are >engaged to be married!! You have broken the hearts of countless members of the list. Congratulations! ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 19:20:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12339; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA20128; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA03282; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.55] (unverified [207.226.128.55]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:19:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: F650ST Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 19:20:27 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Gil M. Nissley" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> Oh, and the sucker wheelies easier and better than any BMW that I've >> ridden. The same technique that gets me four or five inches on the R850R >> gives about 15 inches on the F650. For some reason, my father didn't seem >> pleased to hear that:) > > C'mon George,everyone knows shafties can't wheelie. ;-) Ahh, reading rec.moto again? Anyway, I know it must wheelie, because we all know it's chain drive. I can tell by the trail left in the garage:) Can anyone say "Scottoiler for Father's Day"? >> My father summed it up like this "That bike is what motorcycling is >> all about." He's never been that enthusiastic about something in the 25 >> years I've known him:) > > Thumpers are cool.Tell your dad now he has to join the National >Four Stroke Singles Assoc. I'm still trying to get him to join the AMA! (Err, the one for motorcycles, that is:) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 19:20:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12340; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA20129; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA03280; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.55] (unverified [207.226.128.55]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:19:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Daytona 200 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 19:20:23 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Gil M. Nissley" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Heh.Harley is going to be tying up all their spare cash paying for >Buell warranty claims now that they own the company(did I mention I >just got *another* recall notice in the mail :-P). I got a recall for the BMW. Poorly routed wiring, basically. Runs too close to a sharp piece of metal. Never heard of an incident, but... What's your recall for? ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 19:20:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12346; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA20136; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA03289; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:20:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.55] (unverified [207.226.128.55]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:19:36 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 98 19:20:38 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "DC-Cycles list" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! >Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last >weekend? >Curtis? Still wanna lead? Last I heard, it'll be sunny and freezing. And, since I've ignored my SWMBO for the past three weekends in favor of bikes, the only way I'll see a bike this weekend is with a pillion:) (And this pillion doesn't like the cold, even if she did get a BMW heated jacket for her birthday) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 21:14:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA13880; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA22734; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm07.itmassociates.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA05746; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:14:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm04.itmassociates.com ([207.205.218.59]) by itm07.itmassociates.com (Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) with SMTP id 852565C4.000C47E3; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:14:09 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980311021356.0092920c@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: us004937@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:13:56 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Robert Space Subject: 86 VF500F - New Lister, parts and advice wanted Hey DCers I was referred to the email list by a DC member of the VRF list. In college I had an 86 Rebel 250 (oooohh ahhhh) which was my first bike. Sold it for what I paid for it. I figured when I got my next bike I would shoot for a 600cc sport bike of some kind just for nice days and weekends. I have a Mustang as a daily driver, and living in DC, the traffic patterns seem to be a little too dangerous to drive to work everyday on a motorcycle. My neighbor gave me an 86 VF500F Interceptor for FREE, but it had one major problem...it was completely disassembled and missing 10-15% of the parts. It seemed like the right bike, FREE, sporty, yet comfortable, and under 600cc(insurance) but much better than any Rebel. What kind of approximate HP does a VF500 make stock? So after 4 wheelbarrow loads full of parts, not including frame, body work, and wheels, I had an 86 Baby Ceptor. It came with an entire engine re-ring and gasket set. I had the heads disassembled and checked out by a local shop. I have assembled almost everything, but I am still missing a few critical parts. I am missing most of the exhaust system. All I have in the down pipes off of the motor. So I need to find a used, but good condition exhaust chamber and canisters, if anyone has any to sell email me. Thats about the only thing stopping me from starting the bike up by the end of March right now. I still have to paint most of the body work. It came with some sort of aftermarket Full Fairing. It looks like some sort of composite material, but I'm pretty sure its just FGlass. Is this something I want to try to mount, or is it just a big waste of time? Will the bike look stupid with it on there? I also heard that someone on this list might be parting out a VF500, am I correct? If they could email me if the parts are still available, I need alot of knick-knack parts to finish the one I have. Can't wait for it to stop raining. Thanks for listening and any help or suggestions. Rob Space Most of a 86 VF500F DC Area From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 22:29:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA14668; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:29:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA23072; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:28:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA06992; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:28:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-130-196.ATLN.grid.net [207.205.130.196]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA10408 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:27:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980310222921.00699f94@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:29:21 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Day 2: Deal's Gap Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Short version: Quit your job, leave your SO, and ride to Deal's Gap. You will not regret it. Even if you don't ride it, the roads to and from it are worth it. Longer version: I woke up to temperatures in the 20s and snow flurries. So, undaunted (and bolstered by a breakfast that would make a nutritionist faint) I suited up and headed out into the cold. Following a route from Asheville recommended in Dale Coyner's book, I took Route 74 westward. Despite the light snow, it wasn't as bad as I expected, particularly since the roads are so well-maintained. As usual, it was a spectacular divided highway with long, fast sweeper and mountain passes. After topping off the tank, I turned onto Rt. 28 toward Fontana. This place is notorious among BMW riders, as the place where riders at a recent rally were subjected to unbelievable harassment by the local authorities. However, I quickly understood why they selected Fontana for the rally site. This is a fantastically twisty two-laner, running through the mountains, along rivers and beside the Fontana Dam, the largest on the east coast and from which Harrison Ford lept in "The Fugitive." Approaching Deal's Gap was some of the best riding I've experienced with views of the Smoky Mountains and Fontana Lake. With little traffic, it was easy to concentrate on picking good lines through the turns. Just when I thought it couldn't get any better, I arrived at the intersection of Rt. 28 and 129, the North Carolina entrance to Deal's Gap (which runs across the border into Tennessee). Riders who enter from Tennessee get to warm up on some switchbacks as they move up the mountain side. By contrast, from the NC side, you get right to it, no foreplay. From the first moment it is unrelenting turn after turn after turn. For several miles I don't think there was more than 20 yards of straight pavement. The road turns, goes up, down, banks... it's unbelievable. For the first mile or so, you're in shock. By mile marker 3 you're in the groove, attacking the corners. By mile 5, you're trying to look beyond the current turn into the next, in order to move through the combinations. Still, it is a formidable chunk of pavement. With a reputed 318 turns in 11 miles, it is exhausting. After a few runs, I pulled over and lay down, my stomach churning from the constant vestibular assault. I'm not making this up... the road was so intense I thought I'd hurl (maybe it was breakfast?). I headed back via 129, stopping at the Nantahala Outdoor Center, beside the river of the same name, for lunch. The place is a launching point for kayakers, rafters, and mountain bikers so the body piercing tally was pretty high. Following another gloriously circuitous route back to Asheville, I enjoyed a fine Mexican-Caribbean meal at Salsa's. I'm sorry to report that, given the quality of the riding, I didn't have time to soak in the Biltmore or any other cultural sites. I gotta tell you, this whole area is a motorcyclist's dream. I only wish I had more time to explore the Smokies. Now I have to decide where to go tomorrow. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 22:31:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA14687; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:31:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA23089; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA07063; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:30:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.65.77]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA10931; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 03:30:19 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "George Howell" Cc: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: Buell Recall, was Daytona 200 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:26:35 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4c9d$7ec5a360$LocalHost@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 George asked Gil: What's your recall for? George-- Probably for the engine falling out after the frame splits in two.... ;-) Sorry, Gil. Later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 23:09:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15119; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:09:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23303; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA07622; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:09:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (1Cust113.tnt10.atl2.da.uu.net [153.36.81.113]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07815; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:08:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35075F02.C761E718@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 23:05:22 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" Organization: MSC Salvage Team X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Viteri, Ursulina" CC: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ursulina, A friend of mine has two P89s, and although a bit on the large side (it's a doublestack clip), it's a pretty nice little weapon. My only complaint would be the hard plastic composite grip. It can be a little slippery, but easily fixed with a grip boot. If you want to try a few different caliber guns before deciding on something, you're welcome to come to a range with me and try any of mine. I have: Star Firestar + 9mm (same size as Walther PPK, 13+1 rounds.. my conceal weapon) Star Megastar .45 (very large and heavy, but very stable and mild kick... 12+1 rnds) Colt King Cobra .357 (revolver, my personal favorite...arguably the best one shot stopping power caliber...when i get back home I'll send the url with supporting data on that) Ruger Mk II Competition model .22 ( great fun, extremely accurate... cheap to shoot) For the long guns, I have: MAK 90 (basically an AK-47 with modified stock... and a helfire put on it) Ithaca single shot 20 guage (very very old, kicks like hell) and the beast of beasts in my closet: Ruger Model 77 chambered in .338 WinMag (nice little kick too....but doesn't get shot too often at $3/bullet) The offer to shoot them is open to anyone as long as I'm with you at a range... (don't want legal problems :) Collin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 10 23:13:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15161; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:13:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23317; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:13:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA07650; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA20832; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:09:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:08:54 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Dunlop D 204 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Jay wrote: > I am considering putting a D 204 on my FZR 600. Has anyone had any luck > with this tire? I have heard some negative press about it, but want to hear > more. I've got nothing but good things to say about mine.Course,my bike is lighter than Collin's,it's a V-twin,and I'm not quite the gonzo rider he is. I've got 7.5k on mine and they've got an easy 1-2k left in them.They are also the *best* tires I have ridden in the rain or on bridge gratings. BTW Collin,Don...were you guys using street or GP compound(just curious)? The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:07:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15904; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA23995; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08310; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:07:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.44] (unverified [207.226.128.44]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:06:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Buell Recall, was Daytona 200 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 00:07:38 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "kevin thomas" cc: "dc-cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Probably for the engine falling out after the frame splits in two.... Well as long as it's only minor finish work that's failing for a change... -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:14:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16088; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24360; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08544; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA21332; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:10:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:03:02 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <025101bd4c5c$d6a06520$832f31cc@saturn.onyxgroup.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Pete Slatcoff wrote: > If you are serious about your hand gun let me recommend a .50 cal Dessert > Eagle. Naw,get a Redhawk and have it converted to .500 Linbaugh.600 grain slug at .357-level velocities....oooer! BTW,wot's up with all these autos?I prefer wheelguns myself.No jams, easier cleaning,and you can leave 'em loaded forever without worrying about a magazine spring. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:18:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16205; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24494; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:18:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08684; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:18:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA21353; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:13:53 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:11:53 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > Damn, a AK47 - COOOOOOOOOL! Ewwww....Commie iron. You want a nice M-16,you do. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:27:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16314; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24715; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:27:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08825; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA21394; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:23:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:17:20 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF541@xcgva001.grumman.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Meier, Christopher wrote: > Congrats!!! Ditto. > Hmmm. Let's see here ... > Bachelor Party = Crow Bar > Rehearsal dinner = Payne's > Reception = ??? Crow bar?At least do it proper at a nudie bar.Hey,I know a cool place up in Jersey.We could do a long-distance ride.I know some twisties along the way. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:37:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16434; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:37:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24787; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08939; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.172.52.173] (207-172-52-173.s173.tnt1.brd.erols.com [207.172.52.173]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA04827 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:37:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:37:00 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: r.chapin@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980311021356.0092920c@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Ryan Chapin Subject: Re: 86 VF500F - New Lister, parts and advice wanted >My neighbor gave me an 86 VF500F Interceptor for FREE, but it had one major >problem...it was completely disassembled and missing 10-15% of the parts. >It seemed like the right bike, FREE, sporty, yet comfortable, and under >600cc(insurance) but much better than any Rebel. Gave you? Man lucky guy! Interceptors are cool. I am totally biased as my street bike is a '85 VF500f also. You will definately like it better than the Rebel, much sportier, and much more power. > >What kind of approximate HP does a VF500 make stock? Well, it was touted as making 77hp stock, but that was when they were measuring hp at the crank, I'd say that mine (piped and jetted) prob makes about 55-60 or so. > >I am missing most of the exhaust system. All I have in the down pipes off >of the motor. You've got all the exhaust parts you need to put an aftermarket 4 into 1 system on it which I definately recommend. I put a Hindle header and can on mine and jetted it and it made loads of difference. You don't want to put the stock crap on it as it is very restrictive and heavy as hell. >I still have to paint most of the body work. It came with some sort of >aftermarket Full Fairing. It looks like some sort of composite material, >but I'm pretty sure its just FGlass. Is this something I want to try to >mount, or is it just a big waste of time? Will the bike look stupid with it >on there? It's probably a telefix lower, I was actually given one of them myself, got the mounting kit and decided not to put it on, I can let you have the mounting stuff for a couple of bucks > >I also heard that someone on this list might be parting out a VF500, That is Senior, Brian McCoy (who has prob already read your mail) am I >correct? If they could email me if the parts are still available, I need >alot of knick-knack parts to finish the one I have. If you are going to be working on it, I've got a few tidbit tricks that I have learned fiddling with mine over the past few years that you might want to know about, just e-mail me and let me know. Good luck with the bike, the Baby R's are cool as hell! Ryan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:39:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16470; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24811; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:39:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08971; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (2Cust54.tnt9.atl2.da.uu.net [153.36.59.182]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02640; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:39:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3507743C.5EBE6578@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:35:56 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" Organization: MSC Salvage Team X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gil M. Nissley" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit he he he.. For accuracy, yes, an M16 is pretty damn good.. As a combat weapon, the AK is far superior...It only has 5 moving parts. You can leave it laying in the mud and muck for a week and it'll still shoot well enough for a grunt or jarhead....the M16 on the other hand has waaay too many parts, and although the newer versions are better than those of lore, they still jam very easily and hate any dirtiness... Hey Brian, You still have your Anschutz rifles???? COOL... i haven't shot one of those in a few years. Maybe I'll have to get a few boxes of Tenex for ya :) I used to love air rifle competitions. Small bore I was OK at, but knee problems always made kneeling position really suck... Collin ps: Miami has been downright last night and through this evening... :( Gil M. Nissley wrote: > On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > > Damn, a AK47 - COOOOOOOOOL! > > Ewwww....Commie iron. > > You want a nice M-16,you do. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:44:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16511; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24846; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA09013; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA21465; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:39:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:32:54 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Buell Recall, was Daytona 200 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <01bd4c9d$7ec5a360$LocalHost@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, kevin thomas wrote: > George asked Gil: What's your recall for? > George-- > Probably for the engine falling out after the frame splits in two.... > Sorry, Gil. Har-de-har-har.Just remember that things fall off the next time I'm riding in front of you. :-P This recall is for the turn signal idiot light.It can sometimes flash even when the signal is burned out.I'm still looking into the brake recall.Court from Buell says its something different than my prob,but I've heard from two Buell owners who said it *is* the same prob I'm having.To recap;the floating washers on my front rotor are hitting my brake caliper.Not cool. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:47:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16522; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:47:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24867; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA09039; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-16.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.57]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA22164 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:47:01 -0500 Message-ID: <068501bd4cb1$50fca960$3210b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "DC-Cycles list" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: shooting! & ladies! Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:47:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Can't not share these favorite true and story stories. True story -- An excellent lady friend of mine now lives in Oregon, used to be Herndon until a couple of years ago. About a year before she transferred, and after having reflected for some months on how she did a fair amount of traveling, car and plane, with exposure to the wilds of America, it seemed a good idea to acquaint her with pistols and shooting (myself having briefly in my past handled 45's, 22s, 30-06s, even muzzle loaders). My conscience would never survive should she have been in a position to defend herself and not been able to use an available firearm. We'd chatted about guns briefly and there was a lot of lady-type resistance (no guns in house, etc.). It seemed any progress would need to be fait accompli. No asking, just do it. So -- On a birthday -- dinner planned in the 'burbs -- we started out but it wasn't too long before she questioned why we were heading out of the way to the Rt 50/Rt 28 area. I stalled and dodged until we arrived at the shooting gallery (recall the Blue Ridge Arsenal?). Tactics unveiled, we talked to nice fellow behind the counter (previous appointment made) who set us up and gave pointers. Great range-side manner of his helped a lot. Several other shooters on the range banging away. I think we had 32s. I went first, did passably at the close setting, reviewed and reset the target, and turned it over to her. Well. She became a different woman. Suddenly there was a machine with lipstick holding that pistol with both hands. Slowly, menacingly, she took aim, pulled the trigger, and SHE HIT THE BULLSEYE THE VERY FIRST TIME! And right in the center! It looked so good we verified the target after that first shot and kept it. The rest of the session was good, too. A little scattered at distance, of course, but a real confidence-builder for her and it had me grinning inside from armpit to armpit. There's more. The following Christmas brought her a T-shirt shouting the above accomplishment -- lots of fun. Then, last fall, I got an Oregon call from this very excited woman. "I just shot a deer." Seems co--workers took her hunting. Wow! One up on me, who's not shot a deer. Venison came FedEx. Bread cast . . .. (I told her they needed her new talents back here to save us humans from deer overrun.) And it's so nice to know she now has a proven reputation for handling a firearm out there in indian and chemical weapon country. Don't mess . . .. (Next -- out of the cage onto a pink V-Max!) Story story (Polish could be Irish could be Swedish could be . . .) A Polish fellow goes a-hunting early in the morning. All day he tramps through the forest with no sightings. Towards dusk he comes across a small clearing, in the middle of which stands a lovely woman in the buff, preening herself. He watches, obscured, for a few minutes, becoming increasingly interested and ready for the end of the day, then walks out. She sees him and smiles. She takes a few steps away and motions to him to come closer. He moves toward her, anticipating, and she retreats a bit more and motions again. He gets closer, and warmer. She's saying something softly, he can't quite hear. This continues until she's almost at the edge where he's finally close enough to understand -- "Hi, big fella. I'm game." So he shoots her. Bill Swanson / DC EN500 LTD Join the AMA. Join the AMA. Join the AMA. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 00:55:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16563; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:55:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA24922; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:55:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA09095; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA21511; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:51:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:41:11 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Non-moto related: Pistols To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3507743C.5EBE6578@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Collin T. Fagan wrote: > he he he.. For accuracy, yes, an M16 is pretty damn good.. As a combat > weapon, the AK is far superior...It only has 5 moving parts. You can > leave it laying in the mud and muck for a week and it'll still shoot > well enough for a grunt or jarhead....the M16 on the other hand has > waaay too many parts, and although the newer versions are better than > those of lore, they still jam very easily and hate any dirtiness... The new ones are better than you think.I've seen tests where they've dribbled sand into the receiver while holding the gun sideways and firing it.Went through several hundred rounds before a jam.The -16 is also way lighter,and there are suggestions that the 5.56 round actually does more damage than the 7.62(x39? you know the Combloc rounds are shorter and slower than the NATO equivelent) due to the fact that it tumbles in the target after impact.Nasty wound channels. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 01:11:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA16673; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA25054; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:10:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA09244; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:10:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA21776; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:06:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:55:25 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: 86 VF500F - New Lister, parts and advice wanted To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980311021356.0092920c@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Robert Space wrote: > What kind of approximate HP does a VF500 make stock? Honda claimed 68 for the '84-85 and 66 for the '86.The '86 was tuned slightly different for more midrange.Keep this in mind when doing work on the bike or remind the dealer if you ever take it in.Also,your '86 has a gravity-feed fuel petcock,the other years had fuel pumps.Also keep this in mind when working on the bike.I had a dealer service my old '86 once and they tuned it wrong and wound up trashing the petcock. > I still have to paint most of the body work. It came with some sort of > aftermarket Full Fairing. It looks like some sort of composite material, > but I'm pretty sure its just FGlass. Is this something I want to try to > mount, or is it just a big waste of time? Will the bike look stupid with it > on there? I've seen both cool and ugly lowers for Baby 'ceptors.Lockhart I think had the coolest.I can't see the lowers making that much of a difference at normal road speeds,so I'd say it boils down to a matter a personal taste.Put 'em on and decide if you think it looks cool or not. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 02:01:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA16955; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 02:01:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA25277; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 02:01:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA09810; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 02:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA21945; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:57:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 01:55:20 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: CW Address? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey all, I sent an e-mail to _Cycle World_ once,but now I've lost their address.Anyone know what it is? TIA. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 06:55:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA18865; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA27386; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA13475; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:42:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , DC-Cycles list Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:42:38 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) If its nice out I lead. Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna > I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! > Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last > weekend? > Curtis? Still wanna lead? > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 06:55:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA18872; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA27388; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA13477; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:07:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "Clements, Curtis A" , "'DC-Cycles list'" , "O'Brien, Jeannette" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:07:40 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Wow, your up to 7 hour rides now? Maybe we can get you on one of those US 33 and US 250 rides to WV this summer? Have you all done the Indian Head, southern MD ride via back roads yet? I have taken Curtis on some of these before. Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 1:59 PM > To: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN; Clements, Curtis A; 'DC-Cycles list'; > O'Brien, Jeannette > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > I guess whatever anyone wants. > Hey, babe, I did a 7-hour ride one day!! > You're forgetting, I was scared to do long rides when I first started, > not now!! > What does everyone think time-wise? > I'll get up semi-early for donuts! > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 2:01 PM > > To: Clements, Curtis A; 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > I don't know, how far can you go? Your the light weight who doesn't > > like to > > go very far :-). Can we make it any earlier then 11:00? That's late > > for me > > and I usually party hardy on Saturday nights. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:02 AM > > > To: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN; 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, > > Jeannette' > > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > > > Glenn, where do you plan to led us to? > > > > > > ---------- > > > From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:42 AM > > > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles > > list > > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > > > Cool! Same place - Krispy Kreme - same time - what was it? 11?? > > > > > > - Jeannette > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:43 AM > > > > To: O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles list > > > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > > > > > If its nice out I lead. > > > > > > > > Glenn Dysart > > > > dysart@XXXXXX > > > > > > > > 84 V30 Magna > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain > > again! > > > > > Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last > > > > > weekend? > > > > > Curtis? Still wanna lead? > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 06:55:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA18871; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA27385; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA13472; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:00:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "Clements, Curtis A" , "'DC-Cycles list'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:00:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) I don't know, how far can you go? Your the light weight who doesn't like to go very far :-). Can we make it any earlier then 11:00? That's late for me and I usually party hardy on Saturday nights. > -----Original Message----- > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 11:02 AM > To: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN; 'DC-Cycles list'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > Glenn, where do you plan to led us to? > > ---------- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:42 AM > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles list > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > Cool! Same place - Krispy Kreme - same time - what was it? 11?? > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 10:43 AM > > To: O'Brien, Jeannette; DC-Cycles list > > Subject: RE: Ride Sunday (?) (?) > > > > If its nice out I lead. > > > > Glenn Dysart > > dysart@XXXXXX > > > > 84 V30 Magna > > > > > > > I'm almost afraid to post this, thinking it may bring on rain again! > > > Is anyone interested in attempting what we hoped to attempt last > > > weekend? > > > Curtis? Still wanna lead? > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 08:04:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19237; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:04:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA27677; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA14161; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:04:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA06133 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:03:39 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:03:39 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:05:52 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 23 TEXT >... there are suggestions that the 5.56 round actually >does more damage than the 7.62(x39? you know the Combloc rounds are >shorter and slower than the NATO equivelent) due to the fact that it >tumbles in the target after impact. Not that old bit again - 'taint true (at least, it doesn't tumble any more than any other round). Primary damage is via hydrostatic shock due to the velocity of the round (energy is mass x the square of velocity). If you want to see something spectacular, take a plastic milk jug fill of water (preferably dyed for visibility (red is popular (for a number of reasons))) on a cold, crisp morning (so the plastic is brittle) and hit it with a round from a good varmint rifle (I like my 22-250). It's amazing what a 55 grain bullet travelling at 3,800 fps can do. Michael (man of no little experience (and even less reluctance to share it)) Jordan USAF (Ret.) AMA IBA NRA etc. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 08:19:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19399; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:19:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA27797; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA14380; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:19:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA06967 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:18:55 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:18:55 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'DC-Cycles list'" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: shooting! Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:21:08 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 10 TEXT >Hrm, does that mean I strap on my Anshutz and Finwerkbau rifles for the next trip? Lessee now, if I bring my Anschutz (nowhere as nice as yours) we could do a variation of the biathlon... :-) Wonder how the local gendarmerie would react?? Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 08:54:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19699; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA27965; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:54:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA14868; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:54:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from KZBV (CHERYPT3-P03.NIPR.MIL [33.26.250.40]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA14102 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:59:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3506976B.E04D2D20@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:53:47 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Florida X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings from sunny Florida! It was really neat to see the forecast on the weather channel this morning before I left for work. "Sunny and Cold, high near 60" There are frost warnings for tomorrow. All I can think of is that it's going to be sunny and dry for my ride home tomorrow. I've only done 1500 miles in the last week. That isn't much considering it was nearly 800 just to get down here. I didn't see much of bike week, but there sure were a lot of bikes around. Taking the bike for a business trip is the way to do it. It will be nice to get home though. I don't think I could live down here, I'd probably get used to the warm weather and not want to ride other places. Leon. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 09:18:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19893; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:18:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28201; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:18:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15299; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:18:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA17548; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:18:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:13:30 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E66BA@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Gil M. Nissley'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:14:47 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain 1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick. > -----Original Message----- > From: Gil M. Nissley [SMTP:gnissley@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 7:17 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Meier, Christopher wrote: > > Congrats!!! > > Ditto. > > > Hmmm. Let's see here ... > > Bachelor Party = Crow Bar > > Rehearsal dinner = Payne's > > Reception = ??? > > Crow bar?At least do it proper at a nudie bar.Hey,I know a cool > place up in Jersey.We could do a long-distance ride.I know some > twisties along the way. ;-) > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT > > Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 09:22:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19935; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28240; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15391; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:22:32 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565C4.004EBD32 ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:20:02 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C4.004ED89C.00@ams-central-gate-5.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:23:43 -0500 Subject: RE: Non-moto related: shooting! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=b2lJCnsPBTOH2G1JT1XRlQsn7F5f4QoCAYBy3D12yMauwjLO2fJnzIQE" --0__=b2lJCnsPBTOH2G1JT1XRlQsn7F5f4QoCAYBy3D12yMauwjLO2fJnzIQE Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I fired an Anshutz once...nobody can believe that we had a rifle team at my high school...is our school the only one? I mean, there must've been other schools since we had meets and such. Just my luck my eyesight started to go in 10th grade...the glasses didn't work well with those sights :-( Anyone know of ranges in the area where you can go, rent a pistol and buy some ammo, and just fire off some rounds at targets? I'm not a big gun type but its something I've wanted to try for a while... -Doug (Embedded image moved "Jordan, Michael" at AMS-Internet to file: 03/11/98 08:36 AM PIC07735.PCX) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL cc: Douglas Brashear Subject: RE: Non-moto related: shooting! >Hrm, does that mean I strap on my Anshutz and Finwerkbau rifles for the next trip? Lessee now, if I bring my Anschutz (nowhere as nice as yours) we could do a variation of the biathlon... :-) Wonder how the local gendarmerie would react?? Michael J. 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I got my '85 VF 6 months ago - my first bike - and LOVE it!! Brian McCoy's the one who was parting his out but I'm not sure if he has anything left of it. I bought some of the parts off of it myself. Hope to see you on a ride soon! - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 09:55:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20519; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:55:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28569; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16126; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id VWCYa14703; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:54:33 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:54:33 EST To: rdt@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Another Sat. Ride? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/10/98 6:45:17 PM, rdt@XXXXXX wrote: <> that sounds good to me! (if I have time) Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 09:59:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20570; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28600; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:59:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from tangerine.uucom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16231; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from tangerine.uucom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tangerine.uucom.com (8.8.8/8.8.6/970102ccg) with ESMTP id JAA06881; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:57:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803111457.JAA06881@tangerine.uucom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Gil M. Nissley" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Matthew Whalen Subject: Re: Buell Recall, was Daytona 200 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:32:54." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:57:15 -0500 Sender: mwhalen@XXXXXX I think I heard "Gil M. Nissley" say: > This recall is for the turn signal idiot light.It can sometimes >flash even when the signal is burned out.I'm still looking into >the brake recall.Court from Buell says its something different than >my prob,but I've heard from two Buell owners who said it *is* the >same prob I'm having.To recap;the floating washers on my front rotor >are hitting my brake caliper.Not cool. My brake recall was for a pin that they said could some loose and "prevent wheel rotation." It took all of a couple minutes to have it replaced. I haven't taken it in for the turn signal thing yet...seems pretty petty to me. -matthew From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 10:02:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20614; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:02:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28643; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:01:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16329; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id TMVFa21407; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:01:12 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <43d08ca9.3506a73b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:01:12 EST To: hgg@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Day 2: Deal's Gap Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/10/98 10:54:54 PM, hgg@XXXXXX wrote: << Quit your job, leave your SO, and ride to Deal's Gap. You will not regret it. Even if you don't ride it, the roads to and from it are worth it.>> so when are we all going guys? (and girls ;D ) I'm actually drooling......... Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 10:12:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20752; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:12:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28822; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:12:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16657; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id LPKAa04959; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:11:29 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:11:29 EST To: jlobrien@XXXXXX, gnissley@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> I'd have to agree. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 10:29:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20960; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28982; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17178; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:29:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (port42.annex4.radix.net [209.48.225.170]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA21570; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:26:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3506D69C.7972@radix.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:23:24 -0800 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian McCoy CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Non-moto related: shooting! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<>> Now I don't feel so bad about spending $400 on a Beeman pellet rifle. Do you shoot in competion, Brian? I shot in NRA .22 competion from age 12 to 19. I forget which model .22 target rifle I owned, but boy was it heavy! Richard From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 10:31:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21001; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29002; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:31:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from DONALD.CDER.FDA.GOV by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17246; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:31:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr.cder.fda.gov by fdaserv.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.1-8 #21467) id <01IUJBXG49SW8ZF8M8@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:25:50 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:23:54 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta DONALD; Relayed; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:23:54 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:23:46 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy 301-594-5672 FAX 301-480-8329 Subject: Tazewell/Rte 16 ride plan was Re: Ride Sunday In-reply-to: To: DC Cycles Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:23:47 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: E1176IHB28MEP X400-MTS-identifier: [;45320111308991/2418842@FDACD] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 >Wow, your up to 7 hour rides now? Maybe we can get you on one of >those US 33 and US 250 rides to WV this summer? Ooh, ooh, I'm in! Oh, wait, that wasn't a ride announcement... I wonder when the mountains will be ready for riding. I've put some choice rubber on the Hawk and I need to hit some good roads before I wear them out (it's amazing how much more quickly you can turns with tires that haven't been flattened in the middle by commuting). I know that Todd has planned a Deal's Gap run and I'd like to try to set-up another long one a little later in the year, maybe late June or early July (to avoid too much "competition" with the late May run to Deal's Gap and to give us a little more warmth when 1 mile above sea level). This ride will hit the roads around Rte 16 in southern Virginia (Deal's Gap or this area are considered THE BEST east coast rides. I haven't been to Deal's Gap but Rte 16 and the surrounding area is amazing). I will probably run south through the back roads of WV one day, stay over in Princeton, WV and do a big ride the next day, and finally make another back roads run (or maybe the BRP) for the return on the last day. I like to ride at a comfortably quick pace (like a Glenn or Todd pace) but anyone is welcome to come along so long as you go at your own pace (waiting is not a problem, it's a mini-vacation after all). If you have an interest and a date preference (choices: June 19-21, June 27-28, July 10-12, another date?) let me know. Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 10:47:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21274; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29282; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17925; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA16838 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:46:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA19949 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:46:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980311154643.RELZ27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:46:43 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:46 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Day 2: Deal's Gap X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980311154643.RELZ27160@[166.41.242.141]> Everyone should plan for Memorial Day weekend. Leave afternoon of May 21 (nlt 3pm). Any objections? It's a long weekend and there will probably be more traffic than usual, but nothing to worry about. Todd From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <43d08ca9.3506a73b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:01:12 EST To: hgg@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Day 2: Deal's Gap In a message dated 3/10/98 10:54:54 PM, hgg@XXXXXX wrote: << Quit your job, leave your SO, and ride to Deal's Gap. You will not regret it. Even if you don't ride it, the roads to and from it are worth it.>> so when are we all going guys? (and girls ;D ) I'm actually drooling......... Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 10:52:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21320; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:52:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29308; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18035; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (port42.annex4.radix.net [209.48.225.170]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA24385 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:52:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3506DCAC.4BDE@radix.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:49:16 -0800 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: CW Address? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I looked in a few issues of Cycle World, Gil, but could find no email address. Sorry. Do you know how easy it is to get side-tracked when looking through back issues of motorcycle magazines, realizing you neglected to read certain articles? Now I'm mad at myself for subscribing to 12 motorcycle magazines and not reading every one cover to cover. Now I think I might need therapy. Thanks, Gil. :-| Richard From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 10:59:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21483; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29445; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:59:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18427; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:59:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from my-workstation (client196-127-35.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.35]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id KAA10105; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:55:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980311105345.009d0e70@wingate> X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:53:45 -0500 To: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: shooting! In-Reply-To: <852565C4.004ED89C.00@ams-central-gate-5.amsinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I think you can do this at most ranges. The few I know are up towards Baltimore, so I don't know if I can help with specifics. MET At 09:23 AM 3/11/98 -0500, Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX wrote: >Anyone know of ranges in the area where you can go, rent a pistol and buy >some ammo, and just fire off some rounds at targets? I'm not a big gun >type but its something I've wanted to try for a while... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 11:07:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA21709; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:07:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29772; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:07:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA18828; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:07:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4CDD.AB630A80@XXXXXX>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:05:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: Day 2: Deal's Gap Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:05:57 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 50 TEXT Works for me - where are we meeting so that we can have Louis put it on the Web page - suggestion could be Cracker Barrel in Manassas right off of RT 66 (aren't we going that way?). Nice parking lot with lots of room if we need to load/unload stuff. I will definitely provide the "chase" vehicle and kids. Should be plenty of room for stuff you may want to bring. Would like to have an idea of who may be wanting to load stuff in the car so that I know how I should pack. Looking good so far. Thanks for the Web Page, Lou! Tracy ---------- From: Todd Peer[SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 10:46 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Day 2: Deal's Gap Everyone should plan for Memorial Day weekend. Leave afternoon of May 21 (nlt 3pm). Any objections? It's a long weekend and there will probably be more traffic than usual, but nothing to worry about. Todd From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <43d08ca9.3506a73b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:01:12 EST To: hgg@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Day 2: Deal's Gap In a message dated 3/10/98 10:54:54 PM, hgg@XXXXXX wrote: << Quit your job, leave your SO, and ride to Deal's Gap. You will not regret it. Even if you don't ride it, the roads to and from it are worth it.>> so when are we all going guys? (and girls ;D ) I'm actually drooling......... Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 11:10:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA21735; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29822; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:10:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA18976; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:10:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA23242; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:10:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA07530; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:10:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980311161002.RHXW27160@[166.41.242.141]>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:10:02 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:01 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Kirk Roy 301-594-5672 FAX 301-480-8329 CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Tazewell/Rte 16 ride plan was Re: Ride Sunday X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980311161002.RHXW27160@[166.41.242.141]> Kirk, Bill Sowers is having an event (non-event) out of Princeton very soon (Early May??). I'll find out the date and let you know. The dates your listing won't work for me personally since I will be heading out to the SW for vacation end of june through most of July. Todd <<<< >Wow, your up to 7 hour rides now? Maybe we can get you on one of >those US 33 and US 250 rides to WV this summer? Ooh, ooh, I'm in! Oh, wait, that wasn't a ride announcement... I wonder when the mountains will be ready for riding. I've put some choice rubber on the Hawk and I need to hit some good roads before I wear them out (it's amazing how much more quickly you can turns with tires that haven't been flattened in the middle by commuting). I know that Todd has planned a Deal's Gap run and I'd like to try to set-up another long one a little later in the year, maybe late June or early July (to avoid too much "competition" with the late May run to Deal's Gap and to give us a little more warmth when 1 mile above sea level). This ride will hit the roads around Rte 16 in southern Virginia (Deal's Gap or this area are considered THE BEST east coast rides. I haven't been to Deal's Gap but Rte 16 and the surrounding area is amazing). I will probably run south through the back roads of WV one day, stay over in Princeton, WV and do a big ride the next day, and finally make another back roads run (or maybe the BRP) for the return on the last day. I like to ride at a comfortably quick pace (like a Glenn or Todd pace) but anyone is welcome to come along so long as you go at your own pace (waiting is not a problem, it's a mini-vacation after all). If you have an interest and a date preference (choices: June 19-21, June 27-28, July 10-12, another date?) let me know. Kirk >>>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 11:21:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA21886; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00233; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19368; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:13 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA22199 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199803111621.AA22199@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:41 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:41 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:21:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:19:40 -0500 Subject: RE: Non-moto related: shooting! To: true@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980311105345.009d0e70@wingate> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="RE: Non-moto related: shooting!"; charset=us-ascii Blue Ridge Arsenal in Chantilly has rentals..if I remember correctly it was around $5 per hour plus cost of the brass and paper.. cheers, -aki > > I think you can do this at most ranges. The few I know are up towards > Baltimore, so I don't know if I can help with specifics. > > MET > > At 09:23 AM 3/11/98 -0500, Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX wrote: > >Anyone know of ranges in the area where you can go, rent a pistol and buy > >some ammo, and just fire off some rounds at targets? I'm not a big gun > >type but its something I've wanted to try for a while... > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ > Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ > Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs > ======================================================================= > > > X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 12:09:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23263; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:09:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01348; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:09:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlt5.dlt.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA22436; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:09:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803111709.MAA22436@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: from ANITA by dlt5.dlt.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id F4V74MPY; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:18:13 -0500 X-Sender: 2xracers@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:09:27 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: Westerly Sunday Ride In-Reply-To: <199803102338.SAA13013@smtp1.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Okay, here's the scoop for those wanting to head west on Sunday -- We'll be following Trip #11 "Mosby's Confederacy" from Dale Coyner's book, but starting from Middleburg rather than Front Royal. The plan is to meet at the Exxon in Middleburg, hitting the road at 11 am or so. To quote Dale: "Route passes through upper Piedmont along twisty back roads, makes a brief excursion into West Virginia, returns over a mountain pass, then travels more Piedmont roads running parallel to Blue Ridge. Highlights: The Plains, Middleburg, Summit Point Raceway, Charles Town, Harper's Ferry, Sky Meadows State Park." Distance will be 160 miles round trip, starting and ending in Middleburg. I'm familiar with some of the roads (Snickersville Turnpike, Route 9 from Harpers Ferry to Hillsboro, Route 626 from The Plains to Middleburg), and it should be a lot of fun. Parts of the ride will probably be chilly (WV) but so far the weather forecast is for low 50's. Drop me an email if you think you'd like to join in... Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 12:16:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23388; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01537; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA22725; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:28 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA25131 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199803111716.AA25131@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:58 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:58 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:58 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:04:26 -0500 Subject: OK..think my prob with mail is fixed To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199803111621.AA22199@egate2.citicorp.com> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="OK..think my prob with mail is fixed"; charset=us-ascii well folks...I *hope* the mail readability problem has finally been resolved here..can anyone who *couldn't* read my posts before, please let me know if it looks ok and readable now? tks! -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 12:16:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23391; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01531; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA22720; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id MAA21351; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:23:31 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:23:31 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: "Mark E. Truelove" cc: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Non-moto related: shooting! In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980311105345.009d0e70@wingate> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There's one in Forestville and also off of 175 near the B-W Parkway. On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Mark E. Truelove wrote: > > I think you can do this at most ranges. The few I know are up towards > Baltimore, so I don't know if I can help with specifics. > > MET > > At 09:23 AM 3/11/98 -0500, Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX wrote: > >Anyone know of ranges in the area where you can go, rent a pistol and buy > >some ammo, and just fire off some rounds at targets? I'm not a big gun > >type but its something I've wanted to try for a while... > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ > Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ > Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs > ======================================================================= > -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 12:51:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23854; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02000; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23831; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:51:02 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565C4.00624F07 ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:53:47 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C4.00618508.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:50:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=9MMnaDmR77kR90GhxX8sgofKLMVD72J6uZRDJo3ue9yXks2HPoDv5jjU" --0__=9MMnaDmR77kR90GhxX8sgofKLMVD72J6uZRDJo3ue9yXks2HPoDv5jjU Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just a couple of questions concerning Sunday's ride...where's Middleburg, and how do I get there from Arlington? :-) What road is the Exxon on (or is it a one-gas-station town)? And last but not least, this is *the*ride for Sunday, right (don't want to sound like an ingrate, hehehe, but if there's a more local ride I'd probably opt for that...but beggars can't be choosers, so I'll take what I can get!). Sounds like a nice day trip (providing Middleburg isn't in Georgia)...I'm adopting a puppy this Friday and wanted to be home all weekend so she gets comfortable in the place, but I can spare a few hours :-) -Doug douglas_brashear@XXXXXX (Embedded image moved Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> at AMS-Internet to file: 03/11/98 12:31 PM PIC09403.PCX) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL cc: Douglas Brashear Subject: Westerly Sunday Ride Okay, here's the scoop for those wanting to head west on Sunday -- We'll be following Trip #11 "Mosby's Confederacy" from Dale Coyner's book, but starting from Middleburg rather than Front Royal. The plan is to meet at the Exxon in Middleburg, hitting the road at 11 am or so. To quote Dale: "Route passes through upper Piedmont along twisty back roads, makes a brief excursion into West Virginia, returns over a mountain pass, then travels more Piedmont roads running parallel to Blue Ridge. Highlights: The Plains, Middleburg, Summit Point Raceway, Charles Town, Harper's Ferry, Sky Meadows State Park." Distance will be 160 miles round trip, starting and ending in Middleburg. I'm familiar with some of the roads (Snickersville Turnpike, Route 9 from Harpers Ferry to Hillsboro, Route 626 from The Plains to Middleburg), and it should be a lot of fun. Parts of the ride will probably be chilly (WV) but so far the weather forecast is for low 50's. Drop me an email if you think you'd like to join in... 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I'm going on that one 'cause it's a lot closer for me. - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX > [SMTP:Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 12:51 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride > > Just a couple of questions concerning Sunday's ride...where's > Middleburg, > and how do I get there from Arlington? :-) > What road is the Exxon on (or is it a one-gas-station town)? And last > but > not least, this is *the*ride for Sunday, right (don't want to sound > like an > ingrate, hehehe, but if there's a more local ride I'd probably opt for > that...but beggars can't be choosers, so I'll take what I can get!). > > Sounds like a nice day trip (providing Middleburg isn't in > Georgia)...I'm > adopting a puppy this Friday and wanted to be home all weekend so she > gets > comfortable in the place, but I can spare a few hours :-) > > -Doug > douglas_brashear@XXXXXX > > > > > > (Embedded > image moved Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> at AMS-Internet > to file: 03/11/98 12:31 PM > PIC09403.PCX) > > > > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL > cc: Douglas Brashear > Subject: Westerly Sunday Ride > > > Okay, here's the scoop for those wanting to head west on Sunday -- > > We'll be following Trip #11 "Mosby's Confederacy" from Dale Coyner's > book, > but starting from Middleburg rather than Front Royal. The plan is to > meet > at the Exxon in Middleburg, hitting the road at 11 am or so. > > To quote Dale: > > "Route passes through upper Piedmont along twisty back roads, makes a > brief > excursion into West Virginia, returns over a mountain pass, then > travels > more Piedmont roads running parallel to Blue Ridge. Highlights: The > Plains, > Middleburg, Summit Point Raceway, Charles Town, Harper's Ferry, Sky > Meadows > State Park." > > Distance will be 160 miles round trip, starting and ending in > Middleburg. > > I'm familiar with some of the roads (Snickersville Turnpike, Route 9 > from > Harpers Ferry to Hillsboro, Route 626 from The Plains to Middleburg), > and > it should be a lot of fun. Parts of the ride will probably be chilly > (WV) > but so far the weather forecast is for low 50's. > > Drop me an email if you think you'd like to join in... > > Anita > > > (See attached file: RFC822.TXT) > > > << File: PIC09403.PCX >> << File: Text - character set unknown >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 13:27:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24525; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:26:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02785; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlt5.dlt.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA25213; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:26:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803111826.NAA25213@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: from ANITA by dlt5.dlt.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id F4V74MSR; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:35:45 -0500 X-Sender: 2xracers@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:26:58 -0500 To: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <852565C4.00618508.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:50 PM 3/11/98 -0500, you wrote: >Just a couple of questions concerning Sunday's ride...where's Middleburg, >and how do I get there from Arlington? :-) >What road is the Exxon on (or is it a one-gas-station town)? And last but >not least, this is *the*ride for Sunday, right (don't want to sound like an >ingrate, hehehe, but if there's a more local ride I'd probably opt for >that...but beggars can't be choosers, so I'll take what I can get!). Well, this Sunday you get your choice of two rides! One starting from Rte 1 in Alexandria, and the one starting from Middleburg, VA. Middleburg is on Route 50, quite a ways west of Arlington. You could take 50 all the way (probably not a good idea!), or maybe Rte 66 West to Fair Oaks Mall, where it intersects Route 50. If you can check a map, Middleburg is west of the intersection of Route 50 and Route 15. It is a small town (very popular with the well-to-do horsey set), and Route 50 runs right smack through it. The Exxon is on Route 50 (which side, Todd?). >From Arlington my guess is that Rte 1 is closer to you, but you'll have to judge that for yourself! :) Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 13:30:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24644; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02933; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:30:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA25413; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:30:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4CF1.0510FA70@XXXXXX>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:24:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:24:28 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Middleburg is straight out Rt. 50 into the foot hills.... just stay on 50.... and yes... it's the only Exxon station in town. Can't miss it. -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX >[SMTP:Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 12:51 PM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride > >Just a couple of questions concerning Sunday's ride...where's Middleburg, >and how do I get there from Arlington? :-) >What road is the Exxon on (or is it a one-gas-station town)? And last but >not least, this is *the*ride for Sunday, right (don't want to sound like an >ingrate, hehehe, but if there's a more local ride I'd probably opt for >that...but beggars can't be choosers, so I'll take what I can get!). > >Sounds like a nice day trip (providing Middleburg isn't in Georgia)...I'm >adopting a puppy this Friday and wanted to be home all weekend so she gets >comfortable in the place, but I can spare a few hours :-) > >-Doug >douglas_brashear@XXXXXX > > > > > > (Embedded > image moved Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> at AMS-Internet > to file: 03/11/98 12:31 PM > PIC09403.PCX) > > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL >cc: Douglas Brashear >Subject: Westerly Sunday Ride > > >Okay, here's the scoop for those wanting to head west on Sunday -- > >We'll be following Trip #11 "Mosby's Confederacy" from Dale Coyner's book, >but starting from Middleburg rather than Front Royal. The plan is to meet >at the Exxon in Middleburg, hitting the road at 11 am or so. > >To quote Dale: > >"Route passes through upper Piedmont along twisty back roads, makes a brief >excursion into West Virginia, returns over a mountain pass, then travels >more Piedmont roads running parallel to Blue Ridge. Highlights: The Plains, >Middleburg, Summit Point Raceway, Charles Town, Harper's Ferry, Sky Meadows >State Park." > >Distance will be 160 miles round trip, starting and ending in Middleburg. > >I'm familiar with some of the roads (Snickersville Turnpike, Route 9 from >Harpers Ferry to Hillsboro, Route 626 from The Plains to Middleburg), and >it should be a lot of fun. Parts of the ride will probably be chilly (WV) >but so far the weather forecast is for low 50's. > >Drop me an email if you think you'd like to join in... > >Anita > > >(See attached file: RFC822.TXT) > > > > << File: PIC09403.PCX >> << File: RFC822.TXT >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 13:40:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24801; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:40:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03136; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA25804; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id NAA03041 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:39:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA02766 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:39:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980311183927.SBOR27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:39:27 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:38 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980311183927.SBOR27160@[166.41.242.141]> >It is a small town (very popular >with the well-to-do horsey set), and Route 50 runs right smack through it. >The Exxon is on Route 50 (which side, Todd?). The Exxon is the first gasoline station on the east side of town. Can't miss it on the right, coming from the DC side. T From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 13:43:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24853; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03174; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA25953; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD4CF3.66B9D2E0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:41:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: OK..think my prob with mail is fixed Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:41:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 19 TEXT Some of the letters are missing from thanks but other than that you're coming in loud and clear....only kidding on the tks. tracy ---------- From: aki.damme@XXXXXX[SMTP:aki.damme@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 12:04 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: OK..think my prob with mail is fixed well folks...I *hope* the mail readability problem has finally been resolved here..can anyone who *couldn't* read my posts before, please let me know if it looks ok and readable now? tks! -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 14:00:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25197; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:00:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03792; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA26702; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:00:37 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA29933 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:01:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199803111901.AA29933@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:01:05 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:01:05 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:01:05 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:58:36 -0500 Subject: RE: OK..think my prob with mail is fixed To: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="RE: OK..think my prob with mail is fixed"; charset=us-ascii woo! woo! I'm back in the saddle again! Now..I GOTTA figure out how I can smooze my SO into taking my Magna so I can buy that Softtail Custom or the Valkre or the 1500 Vulcan or the Shadow or the Royal Star or... ..sigh*..so many bikes.. so little money... 8-P cheers, -aki > Some of the letters are missing from thanks but other than that you're coming in > loud and clear....only kidding on the tks. > > tracy > > ---------- > From: aki.damme@XXXXXX[SMTP:aki.damme@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 12:04 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: OK..think my prob with mail is fixed > > > well folks...I *hope* the mail readability problem has > finally been resolved here..can anyone who *couldn't* > read my posts before, please let me know if it looks > ok and readable now? > > tks! > -aki > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 14:17:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25435; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04663; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:17:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA27335; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:17:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA19779 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:17:32 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:17:32 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:19:13 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 5 TEXT I'm in on the western ride for Sunday at this time - plans subject to change (as usual) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 14:49:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25848; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:49:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05322; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:47:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA28246; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:47:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id OAA03438 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:47:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA22293 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:47:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980311194707.FYBS4928@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:47:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:34 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980311194707.FYBS4928@[166.41.242.141]> >I'm in on the western ride for Sunday at this time - plans subject to >change (as usual) > >Michael J. So, just you Anita and me? Oh well, it'll make for a fairly spirited ride w/o congestion. Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 14:57:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25965; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05903; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA28555; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:57:09 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565C4.006C4CA5 ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:42:55 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C4.006BA6E2.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:39:07 -0500 Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=kF5E1yERonDAvotcOahk2KsjoxqSOhRjb2UqF94nP34JAgvDW9Oh4hHU" --0__=kF5E1yERonDAvotcOahk2KsjoxqSOhRjb2UqF94nP34JAgvDW9Oh4hHU Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks for all the info, y'all...looks like I'm going to do the local donut ride from Alexandria for a number of reasons, the not the least of them being the fact that Krispy Kreme donuts are the best out of the box, I can't even fathom what they're like warm! :-P Also, being the first ride in a while for the bike, I want to take it easy and watch that small crack in the case :-O See ya Sunday! -Doug douglas_brashear@XXXXXX P.S. - thanks to everyone who forwarded information about the shooting ranges...I'll let you know which place I try! (Embedded image moved "O'Brien, Jeannette" at to file: AMS-Internet PIC14896.PCX) 03/11/98 01:41 PM To: Douglas Brashear, dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL cc: Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Nope, there's another Sunday ride leaving from Alexandria Krispy Kreme at 10AM. I'm going on that one 'cause it's a lot closer for me. - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX > [SMTP:Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 12:51 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride > > Just a couple of questions concerning Sunday's ride...where's > Middleburg, > and how do I get there from Arlington? :-) > What road is the Exxon on (or is it a one-gas-station town)? And last > but > not least, this is *the*ride for Sunday, right (don't want to sound > like an > ingrate, hehehe, but if there's a more local ride I'd probably opt for > that...but beggars can't be choosers, so I'll take what I can get!). > > Sounds like a nice day trip (providing Middleburg isn't in > Georgia)...I'm > adopting a puppy this Friday and wanted to be home all weekend so she > gets > comfortable in the place, but I can spare a few hours :-) > > -Doug > douglas_brashear@XXXXXX > > > > > > (Embedded > image moved Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> at AMS-Internet > to file: 03/11/98 12:31 PM > PIC09403.PCX) > > > > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL > cc: Douglas Brashear > Subject: Westerly Sunday Ride > > > Okay, here's the scoop for those wanting to head west on Sunday -- > > We'll be following Trip #11 "Mosby's Confederacy" from Dale Coyner's > book, > but starting from Middleburg rather than Front Royal. The plan is to > meet > at the Exxon in Middleburg, hitting the road at 11 am or so. > > To quote Dale: > > "Route passes through upper Piedmont along twisty back roads, makes a > brief > excursion into West Virginia, returns over a mountain pass, then > travels > more Piedmont roads running parallel to Blue Ridge. Highlights: The > Plains, > Middleburg, Summit Point Raceway, Charles Town, Harper's Ferry, Sky > Meadows > State Park." > > Distance will be 160 miles round trip, starting and ending in > Middleburg. > > I'm familiar with some of the roads (Snickersville Turnpike, Route 9 > from > Harpers Ferry to Hillsboro, Route 626 from The Plains to Middleburg), > and > it should be a lot of fun. 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Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29260 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:01:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803112001.PAA29260@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:01:34 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <19980311194707.FYBS4928@[166.41.242.141]> from "Todd Peer " at Mar 11, 98 02:34:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I'm in on the western ride for Sunday at this time - plans subject to > >change (as usual) > > > >Michael J. > > So, just you Anita and me? Oh well, it'll make for a fairly spirited > ride w/o congestion. > > Todd The Concours Owners Group is having a ride starting out near Annapolis, so I'll be in the other direction. Sorry gang, I won't be at either of the rides. I have updated the dc-cycles unofficial ride page (www.clark.net/pub/louis/dc-rides.htm) with the latest info I have. (My e-mail has been really screwy lately, so let me know if I missed anything. Thanks for the kudos Tracy! I think you are awfully brave spending days in a car with kids, following everyone else on motorcycles. Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 15:13:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26209; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:13:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06524; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA29272; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:13:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA27050 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:13:00 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:13:00 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:15:12 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 10 TEXT >Krispy Kreme donuts are the best out of the box Had you considered picking up a dozen or so and bringing them out to Middleburg? See - always thinking of yourself Sniff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 15:21:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26425; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06860; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA29584; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:20:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA18571; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:20:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA17239; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:20:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980311202009.SNNV27160@XXXXXX>; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:20:09 -0600 Message-ID: <3506F1F5.2D4A770F@mci.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:20:05 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Louis F. Caplan" CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride References: <199803112001.PAA29260@shell.clark.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brave isn't the word I used for it, but I guess it's appropriate. :-) (I know how bad my kids can be...) Dale (the Horkster) Louis F. Caplan wrote: > > ..I think you are awfully brave spending days > in a car with kids, following everyone else on motorcycles. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 15:32:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26633; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07215; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:32:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA00027; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:32:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id PAA15915; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:30:51 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6701@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Jordan, Michael'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:31:07 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Oh, but they are only the best served warm!! ...right from their ovens....when the sign triumphantly proclaims in red neon HOT DONUTS NOW Ooh, I can taste them now! : ) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Jordan, Michael [SMTP:mike@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 1998 3:15 PM > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride > > >Krispy Kreme donuts are the best out of the box > > Had you considered picking up a dozen or so and bringing them out to > Middleburg? > > See - always thinking of yourself > > Sniff > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 16:56:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA28447; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:56:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08003; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:55:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlt5.dlt.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA03643; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:55:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803112155.QAA03643@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: from ANITA by dlt5.dlt.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id F4V74M60; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:04:35 -0500 X-Sender: 2xracers@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:55:54 -0500 To: Todd Peer , From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride In-Reply-To: <19980311194707.FYBS4928@[166.41.242.141]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:34 PM 3/11/98 -0500, Todd Peer wrote: >So, just you Anita and me? Oh well, it'll make for a fairly spirited >ride w/o congestion. Well, you and Michael can flip a coin to see who'll lead! I'll be happy to bring up the rear, so as not to get in the way of anyone being "spirited." :) Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 17:00:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA28606; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:00:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08073; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:59:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlt5.dlt.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA03811; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:59:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803112159.QAA03811@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: from ANITA by dlt5.dlt.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id F4V74M7C; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:08:57 -0500 X-Sender: 2xracers@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:00:17 -0500 To: "Jordan, Michael" , From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:15 PM 3/11/98 -0800, Jordan, Michael wrote: >>Krispy Kreme donuts are the best out of the box > >Had you considered picking up a dozen or so and bringing them out to >Middleburg? > >See - always thinking of yourself > >Sniff Well, I'll have to check along my route from Sterling to Middleburg... has to be a Dunkin' Donuts or some such along the way! Nothing like a little sugar to get you going! :) Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 17:16:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA28936; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08341; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA04494; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:16:03 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA09178 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:16:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199803112216.AA09178@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:16:00 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:16:00 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:16:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:14:28 -0500 Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride To: 2xracers@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199803112159.QAA03811@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="RE: Westerly Sunday Ride"; charset=us-ascii there's a Dunkin Donuts in Herndon... -aki > At 12:15 PM 3/11/98 -0800, Jordan, Michael wrote: > >>Krispy Kreme donuts are the best out of the box > > > >Had you considered picking up a dozen or so and bringing them out to > >Middleburg? > > > >See - always thinking of yourself > > > >Sniff > > Well, I'll have to check along my route from Sterling to Middleburg... has > to be a Dunkin' Donuts or some such along the way! Nothing like a little > sugar to get you going! :) > > Anita > > X-Sender: 2xracers@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 17:27:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA29194; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:27:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08535; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:27:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from DONALD.CDER.FDA.GOV by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA05025; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr.cder.fda.gov by fdaserv.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.1-8 #21467) id <01IUJQQ9DFA88ZFC3L@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:29:25 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:26:21 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta DONALD; Relayed; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:26:21 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:19:37 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy Subject: Tracing charging problems To: dc-cycles Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:26:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal UA-content-id: E1182ZXHCOXML9 X400-MTS-identifier: [;12627111308991/2421200@FDACD] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 How does one go about testing the electrical system on a bike? I've had some problems with the Hawk being hard to start and although I'd like to go on ignoring it (particularly since it doesn't occur when it's warm) I'd better take care of it. So, what tools/testers/whatever do I need and what procedures should I follow? I'd also like to figure out what approximate rpm level will allow me to use my electric vest without killing the battery. Any help would be appreciated. Direct, in person help may result in the helper receiving a decent steak dinner (not to exclude vegetarians from helping)... or a hamburger if we don't find the source of the problem. :) Thanks, Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 17:59:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00174; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08801; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemini.smart.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06822; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from richard (max2p210.smart.net [206.97.127.210]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA13026 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:58:55 -0500 Message-ID: <350716AC.7D65@smart.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:56:44 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Gimer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride References: <19980311194707.FYBS4928@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Peer wrote: > > >I'm in on the western ride for Sunday at this time - plans subject to > >change (as usual) > > > >Michael J. > > So, just you Anita and me? Oh well, it'll make for a fairly spirited > ride w/o congestion. > > Todd I'd actually like to join you folks too if that is okay. Middleburg Exxon at what time on Sunday? -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 18:06:09 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA00275; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:06:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA08972; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemini.smart.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA07075; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from richard (max2p210.smart.net [206.97.127.210]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA13300 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:05:43 -0500 Message-ID: <35071842.6A9B@smart.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:03:30 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Gimer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Factory service manual for 93-95 CBR900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I posted this message a couple of weeks ago and got no response.... I have a Honda factory service manual for the bike above but no longer have the bike. If you could use the manual, please drop me an email and I'll send it out to you. -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 20:31:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA01898; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:31:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10198; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:30:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10541; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA28001; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:30:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv7-11.ix.netcom.com(205.184.22.139) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma027930; Wed Mar 11 19:29:27 1998 Message-ID: <3506F499.1528@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:31:21 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride References: <199803111709.MAA22436@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anita Lauro wrote: > > Okay, here's the scoop for those wanting to head west on Sunday -- > > We'll be following Trip #11 "Mosby's Confederacy" from Dale Coyner's book, > but starting from Middleburg rather than Front Royal. The plan is to meet > at the Exxon in Middleburg, hitting the road at 11 am or so. > > Drop me an email if you think you'd like to join in... > > Anita Well, it looks like I may actually get to meet some of you on Sunday, and I know the WV side of the route anyway ;) I hope to see you in Middleburg at 1100 am. Hope to see you then... -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 20:55:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA02137; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:55:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10547; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:55:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm07.itmassociates.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA11037; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm04.itmassociates.com ([207.205.217.70]) by itm07.itmassociates.com (Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) with SMTP id 852565C5.000A9930; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:55:46 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980312015534.0099e740@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: us004937@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:55:34 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Robert Space Subject: Re: 86 VF500F - parts and advice wanted First of all, can I get this list on a message by message basis, and not in digest form? About the exhaust. I am only aware of the Dale Walker exhaust system which is a little pricey (for now). I figured I would throw a used stock exhaust on until I decide the bike is worth pursuing. I assembled the motor using the shop manual, new rings, a seal here, a bearing there, had the heads checked out by a shop, etc. But it hasn't been started yet, so I just want to get it running before I start spending bucks on performance stuff. I will also need new tires once I get it started and it doesn't blow up after the first week. I'll take you up on the offer, I need all of the tips I can get. I just need to see a whole bike, because assembling this thing from scratch, just using the manual is a bitch. I feel like the Fonz putting his bike back together when he was temporarily blind (sorry for the bad 80's reference). Thanks Rob Space 86 VF500F >Subject: Re: 86 VF500F - New Lister, parts and advice wanted > >>My neighbor gave me an 86 VF500F Interceptor for FREE, but it had one major >>problem...it was completely disassembled and missing 10-15% of the parts. >>It seemed like the right bike, FREE, sporty, yet comfortable, and under >>600cc(insurance) but much better than any Rebel. > > Gave you? Man lucky guy! Interceptors are cool. I am totally >biased as my street bike is a '85 VF500f also. You will definately like it >better than the Rebel, much sportier, and much more power. >> >>What kind of approximate HP does a VF500 make stock? > > Well, it was touted as making 77hp stock, but that was when they >were measuring hp at the crank, I'd say that mine (piped and jetted) prob >makes about 55-60 or so. >> > >>I am missing most of the exhaust system. All I have in the down pipes off >>of the motor. > > You've got all the exhaust parts you need to put an aftermarket 4 >into 1 system on it which I definately recommend. I put a Hindle header >and can on mine and jetted it and it made loads of difference. You don't >want to put the stock crap on it as it is very restrictive and heavy as >hell. > > >>I still have to paint most of the body work. It came with some sort of >>aftermarket Full Fairing. It looks like some sort of composite material, >>but I'm pretty sure its just FGlass. Is this something I want to try to >>mount, or is it just a big waste of time? Will the bike look stupid with it >>on there? > > It's probably a telefix lower, I was actually given one of them >myself, got the mounting kit and decided not to put it on, I can let you >have the mounting stuff for a couple of bucks >> >>I also heard that someone on this list might be parting out a VF500, > > That is Senior, Brian McCoy (who has prob already read your mail) am I >>correct? If they could email me if the parts are still available, I need >>alot of knick-knack parts to finish the one I have. > > > If you are going to be working on it, I've got a few tidbit tricks >that I have learned fiddling with mine over the past few years that you >might want to know about, just e-mail me and let me know. Good luck with >the bike, the Baby R's are cool as hell! > >Ryan > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 20:56:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA02142; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:56:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10554; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:56:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm07.itmassociates.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA11045; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:56:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm04.itmassociates.com ([207.205.217.70]) by itm07.itmassociates.com (Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) with SMTP id 852565C5.000A9B6D; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:55:54 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980312015539.009385f8@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: us004937@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:55:39 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Robert Space Subject: Re: 86 VF500F - parts and advice wanted #2 Yeah about the petcock. Where do the vacuum lines go from the petcock? I heard one was to engine vacuum. Is it ported off of the carbs, or straight off of the head? Thanks Rob 86 VF500F >Subject: Re: 86 VF500F - New Lister, parts and advice wanted >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > >On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Robert Space wrote: >> What kind of approximate HP does a VF500 make stock? > > Honda claimed 68 for the '84-85 and 66 for the '86.The '86 was tuned >slightly different for more midrange.Keep this in mind when doing work >on the bike or remind the dealer if you ever take it in.Also,your '86 >has a gravity-feed fuel petcock,the other years had fuel pumps.Also >keep this in mind when working on the bike.I had a dealer service my >old '86 once and they tuned it wrong and wound up trashing the petcock. > >> I still have to paint most of the body work. It came with some sort of >> aftermarket Full Fairing. It looks like some sort of composite material, >> but I'm pretty sure its just FGlass. Is this something I want to try to >> mount, or is it just a big waste of time? Will the bike look stupid with it >> on there? > > I've seen both cool and ugly lowers for Baby 'ceptors.Lockhart I >think had the coolest.I can't see the lowers making that much of a >difference at normal road speeds,so I'd say it boils down to a matter >a personal taste.Put 'em on and decide if you think it looks cool or >not. > > >The official BuellBoy Genes model. > >gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT > >Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 11 21:15:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA02368; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:15:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA10721; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA11332; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:15:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-218-179.pitb.grid.net [207.205.218.179]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA13603 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:15:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980311211659.006a0f48@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:16:59 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Chilly Return on the BRP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, I'm back. After reviewing the chilly forecasts, I decided to spend the morning working the back roads and Blue Ridge Parkway from North Carolina to Virginia, then making a run for home once I ran out of daylight. As it turned out, I started out in 28 degree temps leaving Asheville and enjoyed beautifully sunny weather for most of the trip. Towards the end, though, as I was passing the Peaks of Otter Resort on the BRP, the temperature had dropped into the low twenties. By the time I was forced off the BRP by construction, it was 18 degrees amid snow flurries on 81. Thankfully, between my fairing and my riding gear, I stayed relatively comfortable for the dark ride east. Reviewing the GPS: Total miles: 1269 Average speed: 62.6 Max altitude: 4318 I'm ready to go back... once I warm up. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 00:28:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04485; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:28:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12828; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:27:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15062; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:27:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id ITAKa11851; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:26:42 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <84f7cfba.35077214@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:26:42 EST To: ROYK@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Tracing charging problems Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 I have the same problem as below on my CB-1 (excluding the vest issue) and offer the same deal ....... :D maybe we can double date ;D heh heh Marcy In a message dated 98-03-11 17:35:35 EST, ROYK@XXXXXX writes: << How does one go about testing the electrical system on a bike? I've had some problems with the Hawk being hard to start and although I'd like to go on ignoring it (particularly since it doesn't occur when it's warm) I'd better take care of it. So, what tools/testers/whatever do I need and what procedures should I follow? I'd also like to figure out what approximate rpm level will allow me to use my electric vest without killing the battery. Any help would be appreciated. Direct, in person help may result in the helper receiving a decent steak dinner (not to exclude vegetarians from helping)... or a hamburger if we don't find the source of the problem. >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 00:36:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04576; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:36:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12881; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:35:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15255; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:35:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1UGOa14620 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:35:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <4971633e.3507740f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:35:09 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: CB-1 for sale Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Boys and girls, the following is from my cb-1 list ....thought I'd forward it in case anyone wants to join me in CB-1 heaven :D:D:D Marcy Subj: FS: '89 CB-1 Date: 98-03-11 23:02:11 EST From: mragsdal@XXXXXX (Michael Ragsdale) Sender: cb-1@XXXXXX Reply-to: cb-1@XXXXXX To: cb-1@XXXXXX (Multiple recipients of list) Well, we have mixed emotions about this, but it looks like the CB-1 is for sale. Mel (my wife) is wanting to get into a 600cc bike and I'm wanting to upgrade from the Bandit. I got an offer I can't refuse on a VTR, so she's going to take over the Bandit. You all are familiar with the CB-1; I don't have to go into details like that, but the bike has 14,115 miles, everything on the bike is stock. The rear plastic panels have a few scrapes where bungee cords have scratched it and one small crack on the right side where the little sight window is for the rear brake resevoir. The side engine case covers have a few scrapes where the bike was tipped at zero mph while she was learning to ride. Other than that, the bike is in real good shape. Tires (BT-35) have about 2,000 miles. Asking $2500. Will negotiate. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Ragsdale '88 EX500 (Race) mragsdal@XXXXXX '96 Bandit 600 (Street) DoD #1672 WERA #895 AMA #554907 "If you've studied your Floyd properly, you'd know that pigs could fly." - Les Claypool From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 00:38:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04590; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12892; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:38:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15283; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:38:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA28094; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:34:04 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:28:57 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > I'd have to agree. Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be interested in. (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this place) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 00:51:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04708; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:51:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12983; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15414; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 5QFQa11553; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:49:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <11e62443.35077755@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:49:09 EST To: gnissley@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: nudie bars Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 LOL trust us, you'll like it :D In a message dated 98-03-12 00:43:34 EST, gnissley@XXXXXX writes: << Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be interested in. (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this place) >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 00:52:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04733; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12994; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15430; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:51:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA28152; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:47:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:37:27 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: CW Address? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3506DCAC.4BDE@radix.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Richard Wood wrote: > I looked in a few issues of Cycle World, Gil, but could find no email > address. Sorry. Couldn't find it either.Someone mailed it to me once,but I deleted the message. > Do you know how easy it is to get side-tracked when looking through back > issues of motorcycle magazines, realizing you neglected to read certain > articles? Now I'm mad at myself for subscribing to 12 motorcycle > magazines and not reading every one cover to cover. > Now I think I might need therapy. > Thanks, Gil. :-| Deal with it.I subscribe to 7,buy two others regularly,and pick up about 8 or 9 others on occation.With different crap at work,I've been backed up in my reading and now have a stack of mags a good foot-and-a -half tall.I've got issues of _HRB_ back to July that haven't been touched! The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 00:54:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04748; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:54:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA13019; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:54:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15471; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:54:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from my-workstation (client196-127-46.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.46]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id AAA06201; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:52:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980312004820.00845540@wingate> X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:48:20 -0500 To: Morris Berman From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: RE: Non-moto related: shooting! Cc: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19980311105345.009d0e70@wingate> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The one off 175 is On Target. I've shot there, nice facility, with a classroom for training and stuff on the premises. That's as far south as my informoation goes, though! MET At 12:23 PM 3/11/98 -0500, Morris Berman wrote: >There's one in Forestville and also off of 175 near the B-W Parkway. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 02:27:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA05333; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 02:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA17089; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 02:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA16583; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 02:26:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id CAA21644; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 02:25:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 02:25:03 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: Richard Wood cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Non-moto related: shooting! In-Reply-To: <3506D69C.7972@radix.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yea, I used to be a big-wig in that scene (for my age). Started shooting when I was 8.. I took WY state championship in .22 by 16, held that title in .22 till I was 20, and the air rifle from 17-20. Winter of 90, I was ranked 3rd nationaly as a Jr in Air rifle, and 5th in .22 - Summer of 92 I was invited to CO Springs, CO to train with the U.S. Olympic shooting development team.. blah.. Oh, my .22 weighed in at 26lbs - before attachments *grin* .. now, about my 50cal black-powder bazooka.... On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Richard Wood wrote: > Do you shoot in competion, Brian? I shot in NRA .22 competion from age > 12 to 19. I forget which model .22 target rifle I owned, but boy was it > heavy! > > Richard > Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 07:11:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA07475; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:11:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA01362; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA19540; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:10:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28878; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:10:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01902; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:10:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803121210.HAA01902@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) To: gnissley@XXXXXX (Gil M. Nissley" ) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:10:35 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: from "Gil M. Nissley" " at Mar 12, 98 00:28:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: > > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > I'd have to agree. > > Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two > females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be > interested in. > (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this place) I went there about 7 years ago when I was in DC doing a co-op job. From what I remember, it was a good clean place, not trashy like some places I've seen. Then again, I'm relying on memory, I haven't gone to a strip bar in a few years now. But with two bacholer parties coming up for friends, I'm sure I'll get a crash course... The most memorable thing about the 1720 club is there was this drunk guy with a fat wad of one dollar bills watching one lady in particular, peeling off and throwing one bill at a time. When she threw her top over his shoulder, he let all the bills (looked like about 30 bucks) drop on her stage. But 2 minutes later he was shown to the door when he didn't want to give the top back. The best bar I've ever been to is "Mints" in Niagra Falls (Canadian side). They have men stripping downstairs, and women stripping upstairs, so you can go with your significant other and both have fun. If you are feeling secure in your sexuality, men can escort their ladies downstairs (men can not go downstairs alone, but women can go upstairs alone). I went with my (now ex) girlfriend, and was one of maybe 5 guys who spent most of the time admiring the ceiling and floor. Althought I did learn a move or two. :-) But at least she came upstairs with me later. Ob Moto: Hmmm, doesn't seem to be much about motorcycles at all. Nevermind. Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 07:24:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA07541; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:24:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA01624; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA19655; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA02713 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 04:23:09 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 04:23:09 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 04:25:20 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 7 TEXT >there's a Dunkin Donuts in Herndon... There's a very nice pastry shop in Middleburg (across the street from the Safeway) - home made pastries and stuff Michael (always looking for good places to eat) Jordan > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 07:59:08 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA07718; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:59:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA02203; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA19979; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:58:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id AC06A950530; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:58:46 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980312080004.00ec1c80@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:00:04 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: 3 bikes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" 16 deg. F when I left the house. It had dropped from 17 deg. F just an hour before. When I arrived at my parking spot this morning, there were two other bikes already there. As I walked away, I turned and looked back ... seeing 3 bikes parked there just did my heart a world of good. :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 08:11:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA07840; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:11:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02339; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA20154; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from charlie.mnsinc.com (charlie.mnsinc.com [206.239.52.83]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA15319; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:10:38 -0500 (EST) From: adl64@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: "Jordan, Michael" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:14:55 GMT Message-ID: <3508deef.44332906@relay.mnsinc.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 04:25:20 -0800, Michael Jordan wrote: >There's a very nice pastry shop in Middleburg (across the street from >the Safeway) - home made pastries and stuff Sounds *great*! Looks like we've got the breakfast problem solved... how about lunch? :) Anita '95 Nighthawk PS - From the Post, Sunday is predicted to be Partly Sunny and 50 degrees. Not as good as 70, but I'll take it! :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 09:19:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA08437; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:19:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03929; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:18:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21283; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:18:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA08428 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:18:41 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:18:41 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:20:52 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 22 TEXT >Sounds *great*! Looks like we've got the breakfast problem solved... >how about lunch? :) Lessee, now - Lunch... There's a nice diner in Harper's Ferry (been there with CAMS) and there's always the General Store/BBQ place in Aldie on Route 50 (just west of US15) For those of you who have ridden past and wondered if it tasted as good as it smelled, it doesn't - it's better... Great homemade pies, too :-') If we're heading back on 7, the Horseshoe Curve restaurant is good - it's on a bypassed section of the original Route 7 in Clarke County - I understand that it used to be a biker hangout Michael J. CAMS Motto: Eat to Ride, Ride to Eat > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 09:41:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA08721; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04182; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21752; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id IAA15584; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:39:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA15096; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:39:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980312143935.QNIB27632@[166.41.242.141]>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:39:35 -0600 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:38 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) CC: gnissley@XXXXXX (Gil M. Nissley" ) Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980312143935.QNIB27632@[166.41.242.141]> > On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: > > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > I'd have to agree. > > Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two > females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be > interested in. > (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this place) I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and remember when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front door at lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there was a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk right out..Ha! In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for the $$$. Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some nude sweety shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for the show only. Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple times. Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty well (Steve and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there annual bike show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 09:43:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA08753; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:43:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04218; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:43:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21825; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA12492; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:43:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA20032; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:43:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980312144304.UJCC27160@XXXXXX>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:43:04 -0600 Message-ID: <3507F47A.9CC2CAFF@mci.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:43:06 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Norloff CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 3 bikes References: <3.0.1.32.19980312080004.00ec1c80@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Norloff wrote: > > 16 deg. F when I left the house. It had dropped from 17 deg. F just an > hour before. > > When I arrived at my parking spot this morning, there were two other bikes > already there. > > As I walked away, I turned and looked back ... seeing 3 bikes parked there > just did my heart a world of good. > > :-) > Chris Norloff Ever consider that you might be a positive influence in that? I've gotten a few people seriously interested in riding, and one guy at work who never considered riding his Yammie to work now does it on warm days. It's a start! Dale (the Horkster) PS: Mine was the only bike I saw in my 24 mile commute. I admit, it was a tad bit nippy this morning. :-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 09:48:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA08800; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04416; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:48:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21923; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (port22.annex3.radix.net [209.48.226.150]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA20862 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:48:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35081F41.55CB@radix.net> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:45:37 -0800 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Tracing charging problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> Kirk, sounds to me like a carb problem. Honda often uses butterfly choke systems instead of fuel enrichener systems for cold starts. Since the problem is appears temperature related, I would observe the choke cable operation at the carburetor to see if you are getting full range of motion. If not, you should be able to adjust the cable free-play to get more choke action. If your carbs have accelerator pumps, twist the throttle fully open twice before punching the starter button; that will squirt some fuel into the intake and should help. I forget which Hawk model you have, so can offer no additional advice. Good luck Richard Wood From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 10:03:31 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09013; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05221; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:03:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22255; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1HGZa04959 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:02:29 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:02:29 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 3 bikes Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/12/98 8:03:21 AM, cnorloff@XXXXXX wrote: oh I desperately WANT to be on mine but it won't start and I haven't had a chance to jump it, charge it, or buy it a tender yet..................... ARGH Marcy who is jealous of those with functioning vehicles................. <<16 deg. F when I left the house. It had dropped from 17 deg. F just an hour before. When I arrived at my parking spot this morning, there were two other bikes already there. As I walked away, I turned and looked back ... seeing 3 bikes parked there just did my heart a world of good>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 10:03:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09022; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:03:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05228; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22263; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4D9D.4B2A4EB0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:57:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Todd Peer'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'gnissley@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:57:39 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club and Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at Archibald's so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race car!! 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite thumbs up from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and the drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have the waitrons walking around serving. -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> >> > I'd have to agree. >> >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be >> interested in. >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this place) > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and remember >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front door at >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there was >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk right >out..Ha! > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for the $$$. >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some nude sweety >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for the show >only. > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple times. > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty well (Steve > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there annual bike > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > >Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 10:18:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09236; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:18:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05472; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22675; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA21236; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:17:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:17:05 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6723@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Tom Zell'" , "'Todd Peer'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'gnissley@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:17:22 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District Weekly p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime soon. Join us there Saturday night!! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > long) > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club and > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at Archibald's > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race car!! > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite thumbs up > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and the > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have the > waitrons walking around serving. > > -Tom > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX > wrote: > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > >> > I'd have to agree. > >> > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be > >> interested in. > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this > place) > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and remember > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front door at > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there was > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk right > >out..Ha! > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for the $$$. > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some nude > sweety > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for the > show > >only. > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple times. > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty well > (Steve > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there annual bike > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > > > >Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 10:20:48 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09263; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:20:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05511; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22725; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:20:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4D9F.A91CFCF0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:14:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Todd Peer'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'gnissley@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:14:35 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That would really suck! I have a bachelor party coming up soon! Looks like they're out of the running! Damn.... -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 10:17 AM >To: Tom Zell; 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > >Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District Weekly >p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime soon. > >Join us there Saturday night!! > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM >> To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' >> Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very >> long) >> >> Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club and >> Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at Archibald's >> so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race car!! >> >> 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite thumbs up >> from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and the >> drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have the >> waitrons walking around serving. >> >> -Tom >> >> >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM >> >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX >> >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) >> > >> > >> >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: >> >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX >> wrote: >> >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> >> >> > I'd have to agree. >> >> >> >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two >> >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be >> >> interested in. >> >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this >> place) >> > >> >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and remember >> >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front door at >> >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there was >> >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk right >> >out..Ha! >> > >> >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for the $$$. >> >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some nude >> sweety >> >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for the >> show >> >only. >> > >> >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple times. >> > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty well >> (Steve >> > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there annual bike >> > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. >> > >> >Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 10:45:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09624; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05784; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23343; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:44:53 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA09937 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:45:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199803121545.AA09937@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:45:22 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:45:22 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:45:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:43:44 -0500 Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6723@badge.tuckerflyer.com> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long)"; charset=us-ascii Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? -aki > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District Weekly > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime soon. > > Join us there Saturday night!! > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > > long) > > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club and > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at Archibald's > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race car!! > > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite thumbs up > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and the > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have the > > waitrons walking around serving. > > > > -Tom > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX > > wrote: > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > >> > I'd have to agree. > > >> > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be > > >> interested in. > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this > > place) > > > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and remember > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front door at > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there was > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk right > > >out..Ha! > > > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for the $$$. > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some nude > > sweety > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for the > > show > > >only. > > > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple times. > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty well > > (Steve > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there annual bike > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > > > > > >Todd > > X-Priority: 3 > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 11:00:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA09913; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06885; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:59:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23922; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:59:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18785; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:59:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23404; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:59:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803121559.KAA23404@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) To: aki.damme@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:59:46 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: <199803121545.AA09937@egate2.citicorp.com> from "aki.damme@citicorp.com" at Mar 12, 98 10:43:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just skimmed the article, but it looks like the area that the 1720 club is in is slated for redevelopment, but the 1720 club is not allowed to relocated (because of a new DC law which only seems to affect the 1720 Club itself). See page J03, or http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/12/031l-031298-idx.html for the full article. It's mostly the religious community that is applying the heat. Heavens forbid that the masses actually have some fun in life. Are you serious about a group going this Sat night? I wouldn't mind going with a DC-Cycles group. Is there motorcycle parking availble? :-) Louis > Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? > > -aki > > > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District Weekly > > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime soon. > > > > Join us there Saturday night!! > > > > - Jeannette > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > > > long) > > > > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club and > > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at > Archibald's > > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race car!! > > > > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite thumbs > up > > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and the > > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have the > > > waitrons walking around serving. > > > > > > -Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX > > > wrote: > > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > > >> > I'd have to agree. > > > >> > > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by two > > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would be > > > >> interested in. > > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this > > > place) > > > > > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and > remember > > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front door at > > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there was > > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk right > > > >out..Ha! > > > > > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for the > $$$. > > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some nude > > > sweety > > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for the > > > show > > > >only. > > > > > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple times. > > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty well > > > (Steve > > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there annual > bike > > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > > > > > > > >Todd > > > > X-Priority: 3 > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 11:03:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA09992; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:03:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07254; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:03:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24042; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA03720; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:02:17 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E672D@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'aki.damme@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:02:33 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Supposedly they are on property that is slated for redevelopment, so the owner was trying to get permission to move the club. Of course, all the religious-righters, etc. are saying NO WAY!! NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD!! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: aki.damme@XXXXXX [SMTP:aki.damme@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 10:44 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > long) > > > Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? > > -aki > > > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District > Weekly > > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime > soon. > > > > Join us there Saturday night!! > > > > - Jeannette > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > > > long) > > > > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club and > > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at > Archibald's > > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race > car!! > > > > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite > thumbs > up > > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and the > > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have the > > > waitrons walking around serving. > > > > > > -Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, > jlobrien@XXXXXX > > > wrote: > > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > > >> > I'd have to agree. > > > >> > > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by > two > > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would > be > > > >> interested in. > > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know this > > > place) > > > > > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and > remember > > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front door > at > > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there > was > > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk > right > > > >out..Ha! > > > > > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for the > $$$. > > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some nude > > > sweety > > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for the > > > show > > > >only. > > > > > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple times. > > > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty well > > > (Steve > > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there annual > bike > > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > > > > > > > >Todd > > > > X-Priority: 3 > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 11:22:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10348; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08171; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:22:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24476; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA09147; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:22:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:21:26 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6731@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Louis F. Caplan'" , aki.damme@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:21:42 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Marcy, me, Tom & Marcy's guy with some of our friends are going. You're welcome to join... : ) - jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:00 AM > To: aki.damme@XXXXXX > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > long) > > > I just skimmed the article, but it looks like the area that the 1720 > club > is in is slated for redevelopment, but the 1720 club is not allowed > to relocated (because of a new DC law which only seems to affect the > 1720 > Club itself). See page J03, or > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/12/031l-031298-idx > .html > for the full article. It's mostly the religious community that is > applying the heat. Heavens forbid that the masses actually have some > fun in life. > > Are you serious about a group going this Sat night? I wouldn't mind > going with a DC-Cycles group. Is there motorcycle parking availble? > :-) > > Louis > > > Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? > > > > -aki > > > > > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District > Weekly > > > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime > soon. > > > > > > Join us there Saturday night!! > > > > > > - Jeannette > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > > > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > > > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > very > > > > long) > > > > > > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club > and > > > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at > > Archibald's > > > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race > car!! > > > > > > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite > thumbs > > up > > > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and > the > > > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have > the > > > > waitrons walking around serving. > > > > > > > > -Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > > > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > very long) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, > jlobrien@XXXXXX > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > > > >> > I'd have to agree. > > > > >> > > > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by > two > > > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would > be > > > > >> interested in. > > > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know > this > > > > place) > > > > > > > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and > > remember > > > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front > door at > > > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there > was > > > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk > right > > > > >out..Ha! > > > > > > > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for > the > > $$$. > > > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some > nude > > > > sweety > > > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for > the > > > > show > > > > >only. > > > > > > > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple > times. > > > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty > well > > > > (Steve > > > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there > annual > > bike > > > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > > > > > > > > > >Todd > > > > > > X-Priority: 3 > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 11:46:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10847; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:46:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA09541; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25371; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4DAB.A02EF420@XXXXXX>; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:40:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Louis F. Caplan'" , "'aki.damme@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:40:14 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please come!! A good time will be had by all!!! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:22 AM >To: 'Louis F. Caplan'; aki.damme@XXXXXX >Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > >Marcy, me, Tom & Marcy's guy with some of our friends are going. You're >welcome to join... : ) > >- jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:00 AM >> To: aki.damme@XXXXXX >> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very >> long) >> >> >> I just skimmed the article, but it looks like the area that the 1720 >> club >> is in is slated for redevelopment, but the 1720 club is not allowed >> to relocated (because of a new DC law which only seems to affect the >> 1720 >> Club itself). See page J03, or >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/12/031l-031298-idx >> .html >> for the full article. It's mostly the religious community that is >> applying the heat. Heavens forbid that the masses actually have some >> fun in life. >> >> Are you serious about a group going this Sat night? I wouldn't mind >> going with a DC-Cycles group. Is there motorcycle parking availble? >> :-) >> >> Louis >> >> > Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? >> > >> > -aki >> > >> > > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District >> Weekly >> > > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime >> soon. >> > > >> > > Join us there Saturday night!! >> > > >> > > - Jeannette >> > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM >> > > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> > > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' >> > > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, >> very >> > > > long) >> > > > >> > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club >> and >> > > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at >> > Archibald's >> > > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race >> car!! >> > > > >> > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite >> thumbs >> > up >> > > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and >> the >> > > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have >> the >> > > > waitrons walking around serving. >> > > > >> > > > -Tom >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >-----Original Message----- >> > > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] >> > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM >> > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> > > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX >> > > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, >> very long) >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: >> > > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, >> jlobrien@XXXXXX >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> >> > > > >> > I'd have to agree. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by >> two >> > > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would >> be >> > > > >> interested in. >> > > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know >> this >> > > > place) >> > > > > >> > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and >> > remember >> > > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front >> door at >> > > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there >> was >> > > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk >> right >> > > > >out..Ha! >> > > > > >> > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for >> the >> > $$$. >> > > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some >> nude >> > > > sweety >> > > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for >> the >> > > > show >> > > > >only. >> > > > > >> > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple >> times. >> > > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty >> well >> > > > (Steve >> > > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there >> annual >> > bike >> > > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. >> > > > > >> > > > >Todd >> > > >> > > X-Priority: 3 >> > > >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 12:15:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA11432; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA11278; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:14:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26375; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:14:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18121; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:14:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10496; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:14:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803121714.MAA10496@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) To: zell@XXXXXX (Tom Zell ) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:14:30 -0500 (EST) Cc: jlobrien@XXXXXX (Jeanette O'Brien), dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: from "Tom Zell " at Mar 12, 98 11:40:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sure, I'll go. What time are you all meeting there? And what street is it on? I know the address is 1720 (duh) but it's been years since I was there. I may drag along a friend who has been moaning since his fiancee has been temporarily working in Norfolk for 3 weeks now. (She'll be back next week, he's practially counting down the hours) See ya there (again, what time? I'll get weird looks if I'm there for three hours all by myself, plus I'll be flat broke! :-) ) Louis > Please come!! A good time will be had by all!!! > > -Tom > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:22 AM > >To: 'Louis F. Caplan'; aki.damme@XXXXXX > >Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) > > > >Marcy, me, Tom & Marcy's guy with some of our friends are going. You're > >welcome to join... : ) > > > >- jeannette > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:00 AM > >> To: aki.damme@XXXXXX > >> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >> Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > >> long) > >> > >> > >> I just skimmed the article, but it looks like the area that the 1720 > >> club > >> is in is slated for redevelopment, but the 1720 club is not allowed > >> to relocated (because of a new DC law which only seems to affect the > >> 1720 > >> Club itself). See page J03, or > >> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/12/031l-031298-idx > >> .html > >> for the full article. It's mostly the religious community that is > >> applying the heat. Heavens forbid that the masses actually have some > >> fun in life. > >> > >> Are you serious about a group going this Sat night? I wouldn't mind > >> going with a DC-Cycles group. Is there motorcycle parking availble? > >> :-) > >> > >> Louis > >> > >> > Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? > >> > > >> > -aki > >> > > >> > > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the District > >> Weekly > >> > > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close sometime > >> soon. > >> > > > >> > > Join us there Saturday night!! > >> > > > >> > > - Jeannette > >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > >> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > >> > > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > >> > > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > >> > > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > >> very > >> > > > long) > >> > > > > >> > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 Club > >> and > >> > > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at > >> > Archibald's > >> > > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the race > >> car!! > >> > > > > >> > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a definite > >> thumbs > >> > up > >> > > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) and > >> the > >> > > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they have > >> the > >> > > > waitrons walking around serving. > >> > > > > >> > > > -Tom > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >-----Original Message----- > >> > > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > >> > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > >> > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >> > > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > >> > > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > >> very long) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > >> > > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, > >> jlobrien@XXXXXX > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > >> > > > >> > I'd have to agree. > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been suggested by > >> two > >> > > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk would > >> be > >> > > > >> interested in. > >> > > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' know > >> this > >> > > > place) > >> > > > > > >> > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, and > >> > remember > >> > > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the front > >> door at > >> > > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that there > >> was > >> > > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk in...walk > >> right > >> > > > >out..Ha! > >> > > > > > >> > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch for > >> the > >> > $$$. > >> > > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with some > >> nude > >> > > > sweety > >> > > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go for > >> the > >> > > > show > >> > > > >only. > >> > > > > > >> > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple > >> times. > >> > > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers pretty > >> well > >> > > > (Steve > >> > > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there > >> annual > >> > bike > >> > > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > >> > > > > > >> > > > >Todd > >> > > > >> > > X-Priority: 3 > >> > > > >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 12:17:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA11479; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA11389; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:17:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26452; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id MAA27376; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:16:15 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6736@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Louis F. Caplan'" , zell@XXXXXX Cc: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:16:30 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think we'll be there after 11PM. Let's just call it our engagement party ! ; ) I think it's between H & I on 17th or something...right next to a bank. Moto related: Yes, plenty of parking for bikes, much more so than cars... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 12:15 PM > To: zell@XXXXXX > Cc: jlobrien@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > long) > > > Sure, I'll go. What time are you all meeting there? > > And what street is it on? I know the address is 1720 (duh) but > it's been years since I was there. I may drag along a friend who > has been moaning since his fiancee has been temporarily working in > Norfolk for 3 weeks now. (She'll be back next week, he's practially > counting down the hours) > > See ya there (again, what time? I'll get weird looks if I'm there > for three hours all by myself, plus I'll be flat broke! :-) ) > > Louis > > > > Please come!! A good time will be had by all!!! > > > > -Tom > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:22 AM > > >To: 'Louis F. Caplan'; aki.damme@XXXXXX > > >Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > >Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > long) > > > > > >Marcy, me, Tom & Marcy's guy with some of our friends are going. > You're > > >welcome to join... : ) > > > > > >- jeannette > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:00 AM > > >> To: aki.damme@XXXXXX > > >> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > >> Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > > >> long) > > >> > > >> > > >> I just skimmed the article, but it looks like the area that the > 1720 > > >> club > > >> is in is slated for redevelopment, but the 1720 club is not > allowed > > >> to relocated (because of a new DC law which only seems to affect > the > > >> 1720 > > >> Club itself). See page J03, or > > >> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/12/031l-031298-idx > > > >> .html > > >> for the full article. It's mostly the religious community that > is > > >> applying the heat. Heavens forbid that the masses actually have > some > > >> fun in life. > > >> > > >> Are you serious about a group going this Sat night? I wouldn't > mind > > >> going with a DC-Cycles group. Is there motorcycle parking > availble? > > >> :-) > > >> > > >> Louis > > >> > > >> > Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? > > >> > > > >> > -aki > > >> > > > >> > > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the > District > > >> Weekly > > >> > > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close > sometime > > >> soon. > > >> > > > > >> > > Join us there Saturday night!! > > >> > > > > >> > > - Jeannette > > >> > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > > >> > > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > > >> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > > >> > > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > >> > > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > > >> > > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > > > >> very > > >> > > > long) > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 > Club > > >> and > > >> > > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at > > > >> > Archibald's > > >> > > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the > race > > >> car!! > > >> > > > > > >> > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a > definite > > >> thumbs > > >> > up > > >> > > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) > and > > >> the > > >> > > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they > have > > >> the > > >> > > > waitrons walking around serving. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > -Tom > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >> > > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > > >> > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > > >> > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > >> > > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > > >> > > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > > >> very long) > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > >> > > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, > > >> jlobrien@XXXXXX > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > >> > > > >> > I'd have to agree. > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been > suggested by > > >> two > > >> > > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk > would > > >> be > > >> > > > >> interested in. > > >> > > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' > know > > >> this > > >> > > > place) > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, > and > > >> > remember > > >> > > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the > front > > >> door at > > >> > > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that > there > > >> was > > >> > > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk > in...walk > > >> right > > >> > > > >out..Ha! > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch > for > > >> the > > >> > $$$. > > >> > > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with > some > > >> nude > > >> > > > sweety > > >> > > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go > for > > >> the > > >> > > > show > > >> > > > >only. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple > > > >> times. > > >> > > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers > pretty > > >> well > > >> > > > (Steve > > >> > > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there > > >> annual > > >> > bike > > >> > > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >Todd > > >> > > > > >> > > X-Priority: 3 > > >> > > > > >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 12:46:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12147; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA13670; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:46:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from the.martinagency.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27272; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:46:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by the.martinagency.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA18142 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:38:37 -0800 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:45:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:46:26 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Crow Bar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Hate to interrupt this whole nudie-bar thing but I wonder if someone could float me a clue about the Crow Bar. Cool or lame? If cool, is there a hotel around with secure bike parking? Thanks for the help; don't know DC too well. Joe 85 Ninja 900 Richmond VA From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 12:53:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12450; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA14070; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27720; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:53:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id MAA23282 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA31003 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:52:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980312175240.OERC4928@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:52:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:42 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980312175240.OERC4928@[166.41.242.141]> Save me a place. I'm tooling up to the MARRC intro. and may stop by to say hello to everyone afterward. >I think we'll be there after 11PM. >Let's just call it our engagement party ! ; ) >I think it's between H & I on 17th or something...right next to a bank. > >Moto related: Yes, plenty of parking for bikes, much more so than >cars... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 13:02:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12675; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:02:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA14802; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:01:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA28083; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id NAA11470; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:00:22 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E673F@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'JOE NAGY'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Crow Bar Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:00:38 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Crow Bar can be pretty fun. Thursday night is sport bike night, I know that, & they play videos of racers & such & mostly only sport-bikes are parked out front. There are other nights as well, but I'm not sure what they are. They have a dance floor upstairs & it can get a little too college-y for me on the weekends, but for the most part it's pretty fun and the people are friendly. I don't know about hotel parking for bikes, I always park mine right in front. - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: JOE NAGY [SMTP:NAGYJ@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 12:46 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Crow Bar > > Hate to interrupt this whole nudie-bar thing but I wonder if someone > could float me a clue about the Crow Bar. Cool or lame? If cool, is > there a hotel around with secure bike parking? Thanks for the help; > don't know DC too well. > Joe > 85 Ninja 900 > Richmond VA From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 13:11:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12840; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:11:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA15306; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:11:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA28414; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:11:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1GKGa04959 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:10:59 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23 Message-ID: <4042ca7c.35082535@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:10:59 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 There's a Dunkin' Doughnuts in Leesburg. It's in the shopping center across from K-Mart. Maybe a little before. -Sean Jordan (A.k.a. Mike's Kid) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 13:17:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12952; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA15431; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA28658; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1XJa001472 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:16:07 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:16:07 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 D.C. clubs are all 21, aren't they? I guess nobody goes out to the places on Rt. 9, in WVa? Probably a slightly better ride than any way into D.C.... -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 16:51:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA17474; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:51:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA20042; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:49:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07218; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:49:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.76.78]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA5992; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:49:01 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "dc-cycles" Cc: "eileen swanson" , "jeff swanson" , "luis longoria" Subject: Re: 3 bikes Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:45:21 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4e00$28527120$bf4b440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Hey, y'all-- It was 24 deg at 9:28 a.m., according to the AB&A Sign Co time and temp sign on the Beltway. The only other bike I saw between potomac and College Park was a MD State Trooper with his lap blanket heading to the barracks. No bikes parked near me on campus. I wore full leather to keep warm; I usually just do jacket and jeans to school. Didn't notice any funny looks from my fellow students. I did carry my helmet so I might avoid seamy propositions from S&M enthusiasts.... The leather and Patagonia expedition weight long underwear did a fabulous job keeping me warm. Only my fingers were cold. And then I wasn't overheated in class either. Did get quite hot in a pizza place at lunch, but then I sat outside to read my paper and cool off. Only pucker-inducing occasion was a sheet of thick ice about 15 feet long across my whole lane on Riggs near Adelphi. It was just around a bend, and there was a car right on my ass. Good thing the ice wasn't in the bend. It looks like a problem area, so I'll take a different route on icy days. Later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 17:50:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA18337; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:50:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA23282; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:49:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA.COM by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA09045; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:39:59 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:47:18 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 3 bikes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Re: 3 bikes It was cold this morning. The seat felt like a brick. I wanted to check this out with you guys: Have any of you ever received a ticket for "failure to park parallel?" I got a $20 parking ticket for this offense in D.C., while parked across the street from the Crow Bar in a legal spot with plenty of space between me and the cars. I have never seen a bike parked parallel to the curb. Sean Sullivan 95 F3 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 18:43:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19311; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:43:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA24488; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA10680; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02527; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:42:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from leon-at-home (cust012.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.12]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA22547 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:49:09 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980312184945.006981d4@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:49:45 +0000 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: 3 bikes I agree, it was COLD! Today's stats: Departed Starke, FL at 4:50 AM temp 35 Arrived Dale City, VA at 4:00PM temp - about the same. There's a little snow on the ground in South Carolina and some more in North Carolina (two separate areas) 749 miles in 11:50, average speed 63.3 mph. Avg temp 30 something. I saw two bikes. One going the other way-couldn't tell what it was, and a Harley in a truck. I'm back. It won't be cold tomorrow, It's only 30 miles to work. Leon >Chris Norloff wrote: >> >> 16 deg. F when I left the house. It had dropped from 17 deg. F just an >> hour before. >> >> When I arrived at my parking spot this morning, there were two other bikes >> already there. >> >> As I walked away, I turned and looked back ... seeing 3 bikes parked there >> just did my heart a world of good. Then Dale (the Horkster) responded: > >PS: Mine was the only bike I saw in my 24 mile commute. >I admit, it was a tad bit nippy this morning. :-) > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 18:51:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19384; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:51:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA24959; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:51:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA10870; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:51:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com (oak.eainet.com [206.136.246.2]) by oak.eainet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA18990 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:51:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:51:16 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hartzler Reply-To: Peter Hartzler To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hmm... Another reason to avoid that hell pit they call DC (Sorry to all you stalwart District Denizens!)... I must say they have some creative ticketing options though. How festive!! I think parking parallel is not always even possible, i.e. when the street has a high crown. I'd be concerned about the bike falling over. I try to park so the bike is least likely to fall or get hit, period. That usually means diagonally, pointed out of the space, with my rear tire touching the curb. It also apparently means not in DC, eh? I'll have to check and see if VA has a similar (idiotic) code on the books. Pete. On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Sean Sullivan wrote: > Re: 3 bikes > > It was cold this morning. The seat felt like a brick. > I wanted to check this out with you guys: Have any of you ever received a ticket for > "failure to park parallel?" I got a $20 parking ticket for this offense in D.C., while parked > across the street from the Crow Bar in a legal spot with plenty of space between me and > the cars. I have never seen a bike parked parallel to the curb. > Sean Sullivan > 95 F3 > --- Peter Hartzler Systems Analysis Ellsworth Associates, Inc. ph@XXXXXX (703) 821-3090 x 252 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 18:59:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19445; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:59:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA25155; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:59:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11007; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02650; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-217-184.pitb.grid.net [207.205.217.184]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA16810; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:59:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980312190114.006c295c@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:01:14 -0500 To: Leon Begeman From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: 3 bikes Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980312184945.006981d4@illuminet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:49 PM 3/12/98 +0000, Leon Begeman wrote: >749 miles in 11:50, average speed 63.3 mph. Avg temp 30 something. >I saw two bikes. One going the other way-couldn't tell what it was, and a >Harley in a truck. Leon, I had the same experience on my trip. Despite riding some of the finest motorcycle roads in the country, I only passed two or three other bikes, and that was when the weather was nice. Granted these were weekdays, but, still, I would have expected to see more than a handful. By the way, did you use GPS? I loved my Garmin GPS III with the built in maps. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 20:55:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA20851; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA26911; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:54:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemini.smart.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA13266; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from richard (max2p188.smart.net [206.97.127.188]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA24614 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:54:35 -0500 Message-ID: <35089158.2D37@smart.net> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:52:24 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Gimer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-Cycles Subject: HJC 90 and other system acoustics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To any of you who use the HJC 90 communicators, I'd like to know if anyone has used the audio input to listen to music while riding and what you think of the sound quality. I currently use earphones that fit into my ears whenever I listen to music, but am considering purchasing a communicator/intercom system with decent sound quality. Are JM Audio headsets better? Autocom? Thanks for the info. -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 21:22:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA21179; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA27396; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:22:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA13705; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA03328; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:22:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON ([207.152.142.55]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA12043; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:22:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "Thomas H. Gimer" Cc: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: HJC 90 and other system acoustics Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 21:22:05 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4e26$d0a46380$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 sound quality is okay however it mutes out whever someone talks or a signal is imcoming on the chatterbox, which can get quite annoying if you are riding alone and just trying to listen the radio/tape/cd... -----Original Message----- From: Thomas H. Gimer To: DC-Cycles Date: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:00 PM Subject: HJC 90 and other system acoustics >To any of you who use the HJC 90 communicators, I'd like to know if >anyone has used the audio input to listen to music while riding and what >you think of the sound quality. > >I currently use earphones that fit into my ears whenever I listen to >music, but am considering purchasing a communicator/intercom system with >decent sound quality. > >Are JM Audio headsets better? Autocom? > >Thanks for the info. > >-- >Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 12 23:09:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA22487; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:09:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA28467; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15994; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA04446; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:05:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:59:53 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4E6736@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cool! A dc-cycles event I can go to(bike's not running and I wouldn't ride it anywhere I was going to drink anyway).And I'm actually off both jobs.I'm in for Sat@11. Anyone else wanna drop in early?We can see who can correctly guess the name/size of all the dancer's bras. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > I think we'll be there after 11PM. > Let's just call it our engagement party ! ; ) > I think it's between H & I on 17th or something...right next to a bank. > > Moto related: Yes, plenty of parking for bikes, much more so than > cars... > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 12:15 PM > > To: zell@XXXXXX > > Cc: jlobrien@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > > long) > > > > > > Sure, I'll go. What time are you all meeting there? > > > > And what street is it on? I know the address is 1720 (duh) but > > it's been years since I was there. I may drag along a friend who > > has been moaning since his fiancee has been temporarily working in > > Norfolk for 3 weeks now. (She'll be back next week, he's practially > > counting down the hours) > > > > See ya there (again, what time? I'll get weird looks if I'm there > > for three hours all by myself, plus I'll be flat broke! :-) ) > > > > Louis > > > > > > > Please come!! A good time will be had by all!!! > > > > > > -Tom > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:22 AM > > > >To: 'Louis F. Caplan'; aki.damme@XXXXXX > > > >Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > >Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > > long) > > > > > > > >Marcy, me, Tom & Marcy's guy with some of our friends are going. > > You're > > > >welcome to join... : ) > > > > > > > >- jeannette > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] > > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 11:00 AM > > > >> To: aki.damme@XXXXXX > > > >> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > >> Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very > > > >> long) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I just skimmed the article, but it looks like the area that the > > 1720 > > > >> club > > > >> is in is slated for redevelopment, but the 1720 club is not > > allowed > > > >> to relocated (because of a new DC law which only seems to affect > > the > > > >> 1720 > > > >> Club itself). See page J03, or > > > >> > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/12/031l-031298-idx > > > > > >> .html > > > >> for the full article. It's mostly the religious community that > > is > > > >> applying the heat. Heavens forbid that the masses actually have > > some > > > >> fun in life. > > > >> > > > >> Are you serious about a group going this Sat night? I wouldn't > > mind > > > >> going with a DC-Cycles group. Is there motorcycle parking > > availble? > > > >> :-) > > > >> > > > >> Louis > > > >> > > > >> > Huh? The 1720 is going to close? Why for? > > > >> > > > > >> > -aki > > > >> > > > > >> > > Better go there quick, too! There's an article in the > > District > > > >> Weekly > > > >> > > p. 3 (what a coincidence!!) that they may have to close > > sometime > > > >> soon. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Join us there Saturday night!! > > > >> > > > > > >> > > - Jeannette > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > > > >> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:58 AM > > > >> > > > To: 'Todd Peer'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > > >> > > > Cc: 'gnissley@XXXXXX' > > > >> > > > Subject: RE: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > > > > > >> very > > > >> > > > long) > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Back in my street-racing days I used to frequent the 1720 > > Club > > > >> and > > > >> > > > Archibald's around the corner all the time! I hung out at > > > > > >> > Archibald's > > > >> > > > so much that I even had a reserved space out front for the > > race > > > >> car!! > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > 1720 is one of the more classy places downtown... a > > definite > > > >> thumbs > > > >> > up > > > >> > > > from me! Food is decent(when you have a chance to eat it) > > and > > > >> the > > > >> > > > drinks are ok.... especially the cheap shooters that they > > have > > > >> the > > > >> > > > waitrons walking around serving. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > -Tom > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >> > > > >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > > > >> > > > >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 9:38 AM > > > >> > > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > >> > > > >Cc: gnissley@XXXXXX > > > >> > > > >Subject: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, > > > >> very long) > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > In a message dated 3/11/98 9:27:31 AM, > > > >> jlobrien@XXXXXX > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > <<1720 is the nudie bar I'd pick.>> > > > >> > > > >> > I'd have to agree. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Never heard of it,but seeing as how it's been > > suggested by > > > >> two > > > >> > > > >> females,I don't think it's the kind of place us menfolk > > would > > > >> be > > > >> > > > >> interested in. > > > >> > > > >> (I won't even touch the subject of how the 'ladies' > > know > > > >> this > > > >> > > > place) > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >I used to work in our WHQ right cati-corner to the 1720, > > and > > > >> > remember > > > >> > > > >when it first opened. It was interesting to watch the > > front > > > >> door at > > > >> > > > >lunch time where apparently people (men/women) knew that > > there > > > >> was > > > >> > > > >a new restaraunt and decided to check it out. Walk > > in...walk > > > >> right > > > >> > > > >out..Ha! > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >In fact, it is a good place to get a pretty decent lunch > > for > > > >> the > > > >> > $$$. > > > >> > > > >Problem is that it is a little distracting to eat with > > some > > > >> nude > > > >> > > > sweety > > > >> > > > >shakin' that thang with all the loud music. Better to go > > for > > > >> the > > > >> > > > show > > > >> > > > >only. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >Moto content: Seen some Harleys parked out front a couple > > > > > >> times. > > > >> > > > > Some of the guys over at Crow Bar know the dancers > > pretty > > > >> well > > > >> > > > (Steve > > > >> > > > > and 'Crash'). Speaking of Crow Bar, watch for there > > > >> annual > > > >> > bike > > > >> > > > > show advertisements. It's a lot of fun. > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >Todd > > > >> > > > > > >> > > X-Priority: 3 > > > >> > > > > > >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 00:02:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22970; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:02:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA29469; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16932; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:02:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA08754 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:32:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:32:52 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: RE: 1720 Club. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For shame on you all, I thought this was a nice, clean wholesome list! Me and my virgin eyes/ears are just going to have to not be there I guess.. (Not a lot of choice in the matter, working that night) Have fun.. > > Cool! A dc-cycles event I can go to(bike's not running and I > wouldn't ride it anywhere I was going to drink anyway).And I'm > actually off both jobs.I'm in for Sat@11. > > Anyone else wanna drop in early?We can see who can correctly > guess the name/size of all the dancer's bras. ;-) > > Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 00:02:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22993; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:02:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA29487; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:02:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA16940; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id AAA01764; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:05:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:05:57 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: "Thomas H. Gimer" cc: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: HJC 90 and other system acoustics In-Reply-To: <35089158.2D37@smart.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use a collet 49 Mhz communicator with external audio source. It seems to work pretty well. Mine also has a passenger headset and a single channel to communicate w/another bike. The microphone is on the end of a flexible rubber tube. It takes a little patience to bend the tube just right so that it is out of the way, but close enough to be effective. It seems to work pretty well. One drawback is that the audio source is monaural coming out of the communicator, so you lose the "strereo" effect. On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Thomas H. Gimer wrote: > To any of you who use the HJC 90 communicators, I'd like to know if > anyone has used the audio input to listen to music while riding and what > you think of the sound quality. > > I currently use earphones that fit into my ears whenever I listen to > music, but am considering purchasing a communicator/intercom system with > decent sound quality. > > Are JM Audio headsets better? Autocom? > > Thanks for the info. > > -- > Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX > -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 00:11:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA23418; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:11:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA29971; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:10:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA17073; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id AAA04304; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:18:17 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:18:17 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: "Cycles, DC -- DC Cycles" Subject: AB&A Heating/Cooling Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm glad that I'm not the only one that REALLY appreciates that sign on the north side of the beltway! Although I have often wondered about its accuracy. -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 08:12:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA26791; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:12:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03519; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23155; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA12730 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:10:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:10:58 -0500 (EST) From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 1729 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well I mentioned this to my husband, and he seems to think going to a strip club with a bunch of bikers is a great idea, so I might just show up. On the other hand I need to pick up my bike (with new tires and a spring tune up done) from herndon Cycle Sport this afternoon, and may just freeze on the way home! Well maybe not. Julie holm --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Julie Holm (ENTP)| DoD #1604 AMA#397939 UKMC# 0001 VOC# 4672 holm@XXXXXX | 1985 Virago 700 "Maureen" | I'm home at http://www.ziplink.net/~holm NGG Webmistress | Remember the PINK PAGES are always changing (Just and Armourer | like a Nasty Girlie's mind!) | NGG home page http://www.ziplink.net/~holm/ngg/ngg.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 08:24:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA26911; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:24:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03682; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23272; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:23:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA06153; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A32D5E01F4; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:22:56 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313081957.00f09d30@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:19:57 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: 3 bikes In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980312184945.006981d4@illuminet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:49 PM 3/12/98 +0000, Leon Begeman wrote: >I agree, it was COLD! >Today's stats: Departed Starke, FL at 4:50 AM temp 35 >Arrived Dale City, VA at 4:00PM temp - about the same. >There's a little snow on the ground in South Carolina and some more in North >Carolina (two separate areas) > >749 miles in 11:50, average speed 63.3 mph. Avg temp 30 something. Wow! That's a fur piece, and a quick pace for those temperatures! One of the first things I figured out was how much speed affects my warmth in winter riding. Guess you like that new insulate Aerostich, eh? >I'm back. It won't be cold tomorrow, It's only 30 miles to work. It was warmer at my place ... up to 18. Welcome back. :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 08:24:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA26912; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:24:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03680; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:23:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23269; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:23:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A3305E01F4; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:22:56 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313081711.00edc6d0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:17:11 -0500 To: Sean Sullivan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: 3 bikes In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:47 PM 3/12/98 -0500, Sean Sullivan wrote: > I wanted to check this out with you guys: Have any of you ever received a ticket for >"failure to park parallel?" I got a $20 parking ticket for this offense in D.C., while parked >across the street from the Crow Bar in a legal spot with plenty of space between me and >the cars. I have never seen a bike parked parallel to the curb. That's pretty lousy. I'm not sure exactly what the law says, but the info sheet I got from the DC parking department says: "Motorcycles may park in metered zones designed for automobiles providing the parking meter is paid. When parked in spaces designed for automobiles, motorcycles should park parallel to the curb." Note that it says "should", not "must". Also: "When parked in spaces designed for their exclusive use, motorcycles must park in designated areas with rear wheel to the curb" You're now in the classic DC parking ticket conundrum - do you just pay the $20, or do you fight it. They deliberately keep the cost low so you won't fight it. It's simpler and cheaper just to pay it. Fighting it would be more fun and more hassle, and it might get the parking patrol to lighten up. In fact, you might be able to solicit help from the Crow Bar or their patrons - all of whom have a vested interest in bikers not getting parking tickets like this! good luck Senor Quixote, Chris Norloff P.S. My info sheet came from Charles Whalen in the Bureau of Parking Services, at (202)541-6030, fax (202)541-6113. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 09:18:08 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27376; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:18:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04759; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24089; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:16:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA20606; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA08580; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:13:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980313141318.XONF27160@[166.41.242.141]>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:13:18 -0600 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:03 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Chris Norloff CC: Sean Sullivan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 3 bikes X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980313141318.XONF27160@[166.41.242.141]> Not too long ago I posted that Adjudication by mail was no longer an option for DC parking violations. Someone else (Chris?) corrected me by stating that they had done just that mere months before. If I were you Sean, I'd contact the owner of the Crow Bar, Steve Zarpas (crowbar@XXXXXX), and let him know what happened to see if he can help. Adjudicate by mail as well (if possible) explaining that parallel parking with your bike would result in damage to it (and would DC be willing to pay the cost). Hey, are you going to Taos with Linda and I? Let's get together sometime next week and discuss the plans. Todd I'm not sure exactly what the law says, but the info sheet I got from the DC parking department says: "Motorcycles may park in metered zones designed for automobiles providing the parking meter is paid. When parked in spaces designed for automobiles, motorcycles should park parallel to the curb." Note that it says "should", not "must". Also: "When parked in spaces designed for their exclusive use, motorcycles must park in designated areas with rear wheel to the curb" You're now in the classic DC parking ticket conundrum - do you just pay the $20, or do you fight it. They deliberately keep the cost low so you won't fight it. It's simpler and cheaper just to pay it. Fighting it would be more fun and more hassle, and it might get the parking patrol to lighten up. In fact, you might be able to solicit help from the Crow Bar or their patrons - all of whom have a vested interest in bikers not getting parking tickets like this! good luck Senor Quixote, Chris Norloff P.S. My info sheet came from Charles Whalen in the Bureau of Parking Services, at (202)541-6030, fax (202)541-6113. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 09:20:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27398; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04815; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:20:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24147; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:20:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA06011; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:19:17 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FF9E2@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Peter Hartzler'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:19:36 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I was similarly ticketed for an offense I didn't commit last Friday. I parked at a motorcycle meter, paid my fare & went to work. I came back out to my bike & noticed I had a ticket - FOR THE OTHER METER!! I was so angry! I'm sure DC figures I'll just pay the $15 instead of taking a full day off work to fight the mess that they call traffic adjudication - right!?? - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Hartzler [SMTP:ph@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 6:51 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] > > Hmm... > > Another reason to avoid that hell pit they call DC (Sorry to all you > stalwart District Denizens!)... I must say they have some creative > ticketing options though. How festive!! > > I think parking parallel is not always even possible, i.e. when the > street > has a high crown. I'd be concerned about the bike falling over. I > try to > park so the bike is least likely to fall or get hit, period. That > usually > means diagonally, pointed out of the space, with my rear tire touching > the > curb. It also apparently means not in DC, eh? > > I'll have to check and see if VA has a similar (idiotic) code on the > books. > > Pete. > > On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Sean Sullivan wrote: > > > Re: 3 bikes > > > > It was cold this morning. The seat felt like a brick. > > I wanted to check this out with you guys: Have any of you ever > received a ticket for > > "failure to park parallel?" I got a $20 parking ticket for this > offense in D.C., while parked > > across the street from the Crow Bar in a legal spot with plenty of > space between me and > > the cars. I have never seen a bike parked parallel to the curb. > > Sean Sullivan > > 95 F3 > > > > --- > Peter Hartzler > Systems Analysis > Ellsworth Associates, Inc. > ph@XXXXXX > (703) 821-3090 x 252 > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 09:41:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27715; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA05025; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24719; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id JAA17026; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma016992; Fri, 13 Mar 98 09:40:54 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 3 bikes Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:21 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain In all fairness to DC, this is typical of everywhere. The only time I bothered to fight a ticket in Boston was when it was totally ridiculous, and I was a student & my time was worth a lot less. I always park rear wheel to curb in the District and have never gotten a ticket, but maybe I'm just lucky. And riding in the District is great, you can work on your swerving skills thanks to the potholes. --John Whiteside (former DC resident) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 09:43:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27726; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA05064; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24783; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:43:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA12982; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:42:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:23 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FF9E5@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Ah, to Ride in to Work.... Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:41:42 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Anyone else ride in today? What a gorgeous morning! I feel like I've been detoxing 'cause I haven't ridden my baby 'ceptor in a whole week!! The traffic was rather light today, too, which was nice, so that only added to my enjoyment. It's funny how I come into work in a better mood when I ride in! : ) - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 09:52:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27818; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:52:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA05346; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24922; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id LHRJa04959; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <4a137d1e.350947df@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:09 EST To: jlobrien@XXXXXX, ph@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 It's becoming more and more my opinion that we all need to carry around little polaroid cameras so that we can take pictures of things like below and simply mail the photo along with a denial to the DMV ..... hard to argue with a picture sorry to hear that Jeannette ....that sux In a message dated 3/13/98 9:30:56 AM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: <> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 09:54:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27944; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:54:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA05447; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25144; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1KRYa23135 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:53:48 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <3888f4a1.3509487e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:53:48 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: 3 bikes Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 yes ..... you can also work on controlling the adrenaline flow to various parts of your body during those heart-stopping short stops with nowhere to swerve because cars on left and right are BOTH using your lane to try to pass someone .... I always feel like I'm living in a video game ;D Marcy In a message dated 3/13/98 9:51:04 AM, jwhiteside@XXXXXX wrote: <> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:05:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28182; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:05:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05701; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25633; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:04:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id AADC97027E; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:03:56 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313100510.00ea0de0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:05:10 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FF9E2@badge.tuckerflyer.c om> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:19 AM 3/13/98 -0500, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: >I was similarly ticketed for an offense I didn't commit last Friday. >I parked at a motorcycle meter, paid my fare & went to work. >I came back out to my bike & noticed I had a ticket - FOR THE OTHER >METER!! >I was so angry! >I'm sure DC figures I'll just pay the $15 instead of taking a full day >off work to fight the mess that they call traffic adjudication - >right!?? You got that right. By the way, are you sure it's your ticket? I've heard of people putting their tickets on other vehicles to see if that person will pay it for them. :-) My last ticket was for parking over an hour in a 12-hour zone.(!!) I think it was because they had trainees, and the car parking next to the bike parking is one hour. I put a sign on my bike, in front of the seat, to educate the ticket writers. I checked the "Deny" box and followed the "mail adjudiction" instructions on the back of the ticket. I sent a short letter with the ticket explaining the problem and the likely reason for the error. That was early January, and still no word from them. I called once before, but the ticket wasn't even in the computer by then. We'll see what happens! If my bike gets booted can someone give me a ride home? Chris Norloff P.S. I got a ticket once where I think the ticket writer wrote me for the wrong meter. The way I had parked, then with the bike leaning over on the sidestand, the trunk was actually closer to the car meter in the next slot than to the bike meter is my slot. I hadn't fed the bike meter like I'd intended to so it was out, but based on the time the ticket was written I thought there might have been some meter confusion. I just paid that ticket. But I do take more care in parking ... that my bike is closest to the correct meter. Gotta remember who I'm dealing with! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:05:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28196; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:05:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05709; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:05:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25651; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:05:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-217-241.pitb.grid.net [207.205.217.241]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24680; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:04:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313100559.0069ce90@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:05:59 -0500 To: Morris Berman From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: HJC 90 and other system acoustics Cc: "Thomas H. Gimer" , DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: References: <35089158.2D37@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As I've posted here before, I've got the Autocom and love it. Currently, it's connected to a walkman and a handheld CB. While coming back from North Carolina I was able to listen to tunes (in stereo) and find out from the truckers about upcoming radar traps. The audio was clear even at triple digit speeds and while wearing ear plugs. Autocom rates their units to 120 mph for standard headsets, 160 for pro headsets. Harry At 12:05 AM 3/13/98 -0500, Morris Berman wrote: >I use a collet 49 Mhz communicator with external audio source. It seems >to work pretty well. Mine also has a passenger headset and a single >channel to communicate w/another bike. The microphone is on the end of a >flexible rubber tube. It takes a little patience to bend the tube just >right so that it is out of the way, but close enough to be effective. It >seems to work pretty well. One drawback is that the audio source is >monaural coming out of the communicator, so you lose the "strereo" effect. > >On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Thomas H. Gimer wrote: > >> To any of you who use the HJC 90 communicators, I'd like to know if >> anyone has used the audio input to listen to music while riding and what >> you think of the sound quality. >> >> I currently use earphones that fit into my ears whenever I listen to >> music, but am considering purchasing a communicator/intercom system with >> decent sound quality. >> >> Are JM Audio headsets better? Autocom? >> >> Thanks for the info. >> >> -- >> Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX >> > >-Mb > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX >'96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. > -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- > > Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to > cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:08:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28351; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:08:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05781; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25959; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id ABA8BF0222; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:07:20 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313100839.00ea1860@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:08:39 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Ah, to Ride in to Work.... In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FF9E5@badge.tuckerflyer.c om> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:41 AM 3/13/98 -0500, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: >Anyone else ride in today? But of course! > What a gorgeous morning! I feel like I've >been detoxing 'cause I haven't ridden my baby 'ceptor in a whole week!! >The traffic was rather light today, too, which was nice, so that only >added to my enjoyment. It's funny how I come into work in a better mood >when I ride in! : ) Yes, indeed. Fridays are nice. Except for going home -- too many people dedicated to getting home 30 seconds earlier by driving crazy! :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:25:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28738; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:25:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06314; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26621; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:25:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA24991; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:24:33 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FF9F3@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Chris Norloff'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:24:51 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I did check & it was for my bike, which I couldn't believe!! I, of course, who trust no one, thought immediately that some a*&hole had tried to make me foot the bill, but no such luck!! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 10:05 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] > > At 09:19 AM 3/13/98 -0500, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > >I was similarly ticketed for an offense I didn't commit last Friday. > >I parked at a motorcycle meter, paid my fare & went to work. > >I came back out to my bike & noticed I had a ticket - FOR THE OTHER > >METER!! > >I was so angry! > >I'm sure DC figures I'll just pay the $15 instead of taking a full > day > >off work to fight the mess that they call traffic adjudication - > >right!?? > > You got that right. > > By the way, are you sure it's your ticket? I've heard of people > putting > their tickets on other vehicles to see if that person will pay it for > them. > :-) > > > My last ticket was for parking over an hour in a 12-hour zone.(!!) I > think > it was because they had trainees, and the car parking next to the bike > parking is one hour. I put a sign on my bike, in front of the seat, > to > educate the ticket writers. > > I checked the "Deny" box and followed the "mail adjudiction" > instructions > on the back of the ticket. I sent a short letter with the ticket > explaining the problem and the likely reason for the error. > > That was early January, and still no word from them. I called once > before, > but the ticket wasn't even in the computer by then. We'll see what > happens! > > If my bike gets booted can someone give me a ride home? > > Chris Norloff > > > P.S. I got a ticket once where I think the ticket writer wrote me for > the > wrong meter. The way I had parked, then with the bike leaning over on > the > sidestand, the trunk was actually closer to the car meter in the next > slot > than to the bike meter is my slot. > > I hadn't fed the bike meter like I'd intended to so it was out, but > based > on the time the ticket was written I thought there might have been > some > meter confusion. I just paid that ticket. > > But I do take more care in parking ... that my bike is closest to the > correct meter. Gotta remember who I'm dealing with! > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:27:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28764; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:27:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06350; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from the.martinagency.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26651; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:26:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by the.martinagency.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA24638 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:19:20 -0800 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:26:02 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:27:25 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: 3 bikes -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see not one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more surprised to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the frozen prairie would do it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:40:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29239; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06672; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27336; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:40:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07386; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON ([207.152.142.55]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20448; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:40:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "DC Cycles" Cc: "David Yates" , "ZX Mailing List" Subject: parting out forsale Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:40:23 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4e96$563c5f60$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Selling my ZX11D so I'm parting with the following awesome mods everyone should have: As new (4 months old) CORBIN SEAT! 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Never used outside, only inside to keep dust off the bike in the garage... although it is an all-weather cover! bergie@XXXXXX or 703-793-3863 evenings until 9pm From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:41:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29255; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:41:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06698; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27355; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:41:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA02859 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:40:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA10025 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:40:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980313154044.TWVJ27632@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:40:44 -0600 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:39 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: GSXR-750..Purple! X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980313154044.TWVJ27632@[166.41.242.141]> Got this from the HSTA list, so some of you have already seen. Let the entire page load first, then start at the top....=:0 http://www.ozemail.com.au/~gsmilne/gmgsxr.html#washing T From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:44:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29360; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06756; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27430; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA02078 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA02310 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313154408.XYZD27160@XXXXXX> for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:44:08 -0600 Message-ID: <35095449.86E1584C@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:09 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Ah, to Ride in to Work.... References: <3.0.1.32.19980313100839.00ea1860@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Norloff wrote: > > > Yes, indeed. Fridays are nice. Except for going home -- too many people > dedicated to getting home 30 seconds earlier by driving crazy! > > :-) > Knowing this, I usually take the scenic route home from Chantilly to Woodbridge on Fridays. Yeah, it's 15 miles out of my way, but it's a fun 15 miles, and I figure with the normal Friday traffic I hit, I get home at about the same time. Or so I tell myself. :-) It's not quite so much fun when the temps are hovering in the 30's however...still beats caging it. Dale (the Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:45:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29369; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:45:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06768; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA.COM by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27437; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:37:12 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:44:41 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Thanks! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Thanks! I appreciate all the advice with my parking ticket. I will try mail adjudication and will use the theories presented here on the list. I'll probably also get some tips from Steve Zarpas at Crow Bar. My letter will be a whole lot more constructive than if I had just fired it off after getting the ticket! Sorry about your ticket, Jeannette! Looks like they are fund raising for the Meter Collector's Ball. Chris, if your bike gets booted give me a call! Sean Sullivan 95 F3 h: 202-298-7875 w: 703-816-8637 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If my bike gets booted can someone give me a ride home? Chris Norloff <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:47:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29417; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:47:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06818; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27492; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:47:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-190.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.190]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA21889 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:53:35 -0500 Message-ID: <350954E2.45A9342A@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:46:42 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 3 bikes References: <3888f4a1.3509487e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I love Frogger, it's so much more fun when it's real. It is important to win every time though when playing in real mode. Leon. Jinn Sinn wrote: > .... I always feel like I'm living in a video game ;D > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:54:24 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29540; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06932; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27673; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id KAA24904; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma024842; Fri, 13 Mar 98 10:53:46 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: 3 bikes Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:12 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain All in all, I've found DC drivers to be far easier to deal with than those in northern Virginia... I've yet to find anything in DC as hair-raising as the various multi-lane surface roads in the suburbs.... --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 9:54 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: RE: 3 bikes > > yes ..... you can also work on controlling the adrenaline flow to > various > parts of your body during those heart-stopping short stops with > nowhere to > swerve because cars on left and right are BOTH using your lane to try > to pass > someone .... I always feel like I'm living in a video game ;D > > Marcy > > In a message dated 3/13/98 9:51:04 AM, jwhiteside@XXXXXX wrote: > > < skills thanks to the potholes.>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 10:54:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29546; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06951; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27696; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:54:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.35.88.77] (1Cust77.tnt4.tco2.da.uu.net [153.35.88.77]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21949 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:54:39 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199803121559.KAA23404@shell.clark.net> References: <199803121545.AA09937@egate2.citicorp.com> from "aki.damme@XXXXXX" at Mar 12, 98 10:43:44 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:53:47 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: Re: 1720 Club..Was: RE: A note of thanks! (very, very long) >for the full article. It's mostly the religious community that is >applying the heat. Heavens forbid that the masses actually have some >fun in life. > >Are you serious about a group going this Sat night? I wouldn't mind >going with a DC-Cycles group. Is there motorcycle parking availble? :-) Moral Majority. Harumph. Religeon is the opiate of the masses. Sarte. Sarte never saw TV. Calvin & Hobbes. Anyway, whenever I've ever been there, I always parked my bike on the sidewalk, pointing at the street for a fast getaway in best outlaw biker fashion. Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:05:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29724; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07196; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:05:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27994; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4E6F.15BC72D0@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:59:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Todd Peer'" , "'dc-cycles'" Subject: RE: GSXR-750..Purple! Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:59:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That looked like it hurt pretty BAD!!!! OUCH!!!!! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 10:39 AM >To: dc-cycles >Subject: GSXR-750..Purple! > > >Got this from the HSTA list, so some of you have already seen. > >Let the entire page load first, then start at the top....=:0 > > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~gsmilne/gmgsxr.html#washing > >T From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:11:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29779; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:11:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07381; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28185; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:11:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.35.88.77] (1Cust77.tnt4.tco2.da.uu.net [153.35.88.77]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01121 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:11:12 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:10:20 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: Re: 3 bikes >Re: 3 bikes > > It was cold this morning. The seat felt like a brick. > I wanted to check this out with you guys: Have any of you ever received >a ticket for >"failure to park parallel?" I got a $20 parking ticket for this offense in >D.C., while parked >across the street from the Crow Bar in a legal spot with plenty of space >between me and >the cars. I have never seen a bike parked parallel to the curb. > Sean Sullivan > 95 F3 You can take it to court and fight it on the grounds that it is unsafe to park with the wheels paralell to the curb because if you park *with* the flow of traffic, the sidestand will be on the uphill side, creating a tip-over situation in which a pedestrian could be pinned against the curb by a many-hundred pound motorcycle. If you park *against* the flow of traffic, you'll receive a ticket for that too! AND, it's a costlier ticket. The reason this ticket is issued in this situation is there is no statute specifically prohibiting a motorcycle from parking between cars, and this is the only ticket which is applicable. The official line is that the only legal way to park a bike is in a full space, be it a MC space, or a car space. I successfully fought several of these tickets, using the above logic, and by pointing out that the approved MC spaces weren't paralell to the curb either. I think that was the clincher: proving the conflict in the law. Finally, I realized that taking the time off work actually cost me waaay more money than paying the ticket before it doubled. We should get the AMA involved to change the DC statue!!! That's why we all pay our dues, right? YOU DO BELONG TO THE AMA, RIGHT? Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:13:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29802; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07419; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28240; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA17062; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:12:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA19074; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:12:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313161228.UAUZ27632@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:12:28 -0600 Message-ID: <35095AF1.F78917AF@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:12:33 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JOE NAGY CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think there are far more recreational bikers (no offense to anyone) in the DC area than there are hard-core commute to work and ride all weekend type bikers. With some folks it's the suit and tie requirements of their job, with others, well...? I personally used to hate the hot weather down here, when I moved down from Pennsylvania in 1992. Then my wife got me hooked (yeah, it's her fault) on motorcycles, and I suddenly realized that I had near year-round riding weather right here (at least by my definition). Even 90+ degrees is tolerable when you are moving fast enough! :-) I've ridden to work every day this week except Monday (some morning rain scared me off, then it got beatiful and warm, and I was kicking myself - I did take a nice ride Monday evening), and yes, I don't see too many other bikers this time of year (although I waved at two this morning, go figure). They start to come out of the wood-work when things warm up, but then that's still mainly on weekends. So Joe, I guess I do appreciate the roads and weather down here, but our crowd is still kinda small. Gotta go recruit some more... Anyway! Cheers, and ride safe! Dale (the Horkster) 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 JOE NAGY wrote: > > Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I > moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see not > one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more surprised > to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? > > I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great > roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the frozen > prairie would do it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:17:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29879; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07474; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28375; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:17:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA09002; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:17:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:16:20 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FF9FB@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Whiteside, John'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: 3 bikes Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:16:40 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I agree. It seems like DC drivers are more aware of us motorcyclists, perhaps because they have to deal with the couriers and peds all day long darting through, across, around & in their lanes... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Whiteside, John [SMTP:jwhiteside@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 10:54 AM > To: 'Jinn Sinn'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: RE: 3 bikes > > All in all, I've found DC drivers to be far easier to deal with than > those in northern Virginia... I've yet to find anything in DC as > hair-raising as the various multi-lane surface roads in the > suburbs.... > > --John Whiteside > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 9:54 AM > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: RE: 3 bikes > > > > yes ..... you can also work on controlling the adrenaline flow to > > various > > parts of your body during those heart-stopping short stops with > > nowhere to > > swerve because cars on left and right are BOTH using your lane to > try > > to pass > > someone .... I always feel like I'm living in a video game ;D > > > > Marcy > > > > In a message dated 3/13/98 9:51:04 AM, jwhiteside@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > < > skills thanks to the potholes.>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:19:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29952; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:19:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07504; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28480; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.35.88.77] (1Cust77.tnt4.tco2.da.uu.net [153.35.88.77]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05741 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:19:18 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <35089158.2D37@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:18:26 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: Re: HJC 90 and other system acoustics >To any of you who use the HJC 90 communicators, I'd like to know if >anyone has used the audio input to listen to music while riding and what >you think of the sound quality. I've plugged the old Cassette Walkman into the unit, and the sound was shall we say, uninspired, at best. I'm using the in-helmet speakers provided with the unit. No bass to speak of: pretty thin and trebbly. Kinda like an AM transistor radio. Better speakers would be a good suggestion. Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:25:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00105; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07653; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from the.martinagency.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28749; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:25:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by the.martinagency.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA25150 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:17:58 -0800 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:24:36 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:25:53 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Horkster-- I've been trying to corrupt some of the young'uns around the office, but I swear most of 'em were raised by Joan Claybrook! No suit-n-tie deal around here either. Of course all of them -gasp!- play golf. Whatdya gonna do . . . J. Nagy 85 Kawi ZX900 72 Aermacchi/H-D SX350 Sprint 79 Yam RD400F >>> Dale Horstman - 3/13/98 11:12 AM >>> I think there are far more recreational bikers (no offense to anyone) in the DC area than there are hard-core commute to work and ride all weekend type bikers. With some folks it's the suit and tie requirements of their job, with others, well...? I personally used to hate the hot weather down here, when I moved down from Pennsylvania in 1992. Then my wife got me hooked (yeah, it's her fault) on motorcycles, and I suddenly realized that I had near year-round riding weather right here (at least by my definition). Even 90+ degrees is tolerable when you are moving fast enough! :-) I've ridden to work every day this week except Monday (some morning rain scared me off, then it got beatiful and warm, and I was kicking myself - I did take a nice ride Monday evening), and yes, I don't see too many other bikers this time of year (although I waved at two this morning, go figure). They start to come out of the wood-work when things warm up, but then that's still mainly on weekends. So Joe, I guess I do appreciate the roads and weather down here, but our crowd is still kinda small. Gotta go recruit some more... Anyway! Cheers, and ride safe! Dale (the Horkster) 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 JOE NAGY wrote: > > Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I > moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see not > one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more surprised > to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? > > I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great > roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the frozen > prairie would do it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:34:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00384; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:34:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA07843; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:34:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29215; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:34:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4E73.1C33E310@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:28:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'JOE NAGY'" Cc: "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:28:12 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would ride my VFR to work everyday(so long as it's not raining) but because of the "dress code" we have here at the office I can't. I don't like to carry a suit and tie w/all the trimmings in a bag anyway... kinda defeats the purpose of looking professional when everything is wrinkled beyond use. When I worked for a firm out in Loudon(with a less stringent dress code) I rode my CB750F all the time. Most of us there had bikes and we rode them to work just about everyday. -Tom > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 11:13 AM >To: JOE NAGY >Cc: DC Cycles List >Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply > >I think there are far more recreational bikers (no offense >to anyone) in the DC area than there are hard-core commute >to work and ride all weekend type bikers. With some folks >it's the suit and tie requirements of their job, with others, >well...? > >I personally used to hate the hot weather down here, when I >moved down from Pennsylvania in 1992. Then my wife got me >hooked (yeah, it's her fault) on motorcycles, and I suddenly >realized that I had near year-round riding weather right >here (at least by my definition). Even 90+ degrees is >tolerable when you are moving fast enough! :-) > >I've ridden to work every day this week except Monday (some >morning rain scared me off, then it got beatiful and warm, >and I was kicking myself - I did take a nice ride Monday evening), >and yes, I don't see too many other bikers this time of year >(although I waved at two this morning, go figure). They start to come >out of the wood-work when things warm up, but then that's still >mainly on weekends. > >So Joe, I guess I do appreciate the roads and weather down here, >but our crowd is still kinda small. Gotta go recruit some more... > >Anyway! Cheers, and ride safe! > >Dale (the Horkster) > >1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD >1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > > > >JOE NAGY wrote: >> >> Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I >> moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see not >> one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more surprised >> to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? >> >> I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great >> roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the frozen >> prairie would do it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:42:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00862; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08003; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29717; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA02252; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA12996; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:41:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313164145.WPBE4928@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:41:45 -0500 Message-ID: <350961C9.52A9C448@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:41:45 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JOE NAGY CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Personally, I never could figure out how to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those clubs on the bike either. So I gave up golf (for a while at least - $till in $earch of a championship length cour$e with decent green$ fee$. Dale (the Horkster) PS: And my clubs are probably about 20 years old, too, just like my bike! JOE NAGY wrote: > > Horkster-- > I've been trying to corrupt some of the young'uns around the office, but > I swear most of 'em were raised by Joan Claybrook! No suit-n-tie deal > around here either. Of course all of them -gasp!- play golf. Whatdya > gonna do . . . > J. Nagy > 85 Kawi ZX900 > 72 Aermacchi/H-D SX350 Sprint > 79 Yam RD400F > > >>> Dale Horstman - 3/13/98 11:12 AM >>> > I think there are far more recreational bikers (no offense > to anyone) in the DC area than there are hard-core commute > to work and ride all weekend type bikers. With some folks > it's the suit and tie requirements of their job, with others, > well...? > > I personally used to hate the hot weather down here, when I > moved down from Pennsylvania in 1992. Then my wife got me > hooked (yeah, it's her fault) on motorcycles, and I suddenly > realized that I had near year-round riding weather right > here (at least by my definition). Even 90+ degrees is > tolerable when you are moving fast enough! :-) > > I've ridden to work every day this week except Monday (some > morning rain scared me off, then it got beatiful and warm, > and I was kicking myself - I did take a nice ride Monday evening), > and yes, I don't see too many other bikers this time of year > (although I waved at two this morning, go figure). They start to come > out of the wood-work when things warm up, but then that's still > mainly on weekends. > > So Joe, I guess I do appreciate the roads and weather down here, > but our crowd is still kinda small. Gotta go recruit some more... > > Anyway! Cheers, and ride safe! > > Dale (the Horkster) > > 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD > 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > > JOE NAGY wrote: > > > > Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I > > moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see > not > > one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more > surprised > > to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? > > > > I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great > > roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the > frozen > > prairie would do it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 11:57:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01237; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:57:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08221; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00271; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:57:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.35.88.77] (1Cust77.tnt4.tco2.da.uu.net [153.35.88.77]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25753 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:56:58 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:56:07 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: RE: Non-moto related: Pistols >The best(most interesting) weapon I've ever fired was a genuine Chinese >military issue bolt-action rifle. I don't know what model it was, but I >know it was about 60 years old. Man did that thing have some major kick >to it! It also had the complete bayonet assembly in the stock along >with instructions for use(I believe).... Pretty neat! When I was A Kid (which feels like a long time ago) I used to compete in target shooting. I had a Remington which was a single shot bolt action .22 rifle which was very accurate. Sold it for $200 to buy my first street bike. I'd really love to shoot some real high-dollar target rifles as mine was kinda bargain basement. However, the most interesting and accurate 'big gun' I've ever shot was a WWII German Artilery Issue Mauser long rifle. The barrel was fully 9" longer than the infantry model, and it didn't have bayonnet lugs. Owned by a friend, we used to go to my property in W.Va and hit coke cans @ 100 yards, and explode milk jugs of water @ 300 yards. NATO rounds, (7.something) so it was pretty cheap to shoot. Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:02:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01423; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08298; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:02:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00483; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:02:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD4E76.FE250B70@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:56:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'JOE NAGY'" Cc: "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:55:59 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey... when I was down in VA Beach last summer there was a guy that had a Wing complete with a matching extended trailer.... he was carrying all of his golf stuff in the back of it... and now for a really interesting tid-bit... he was traveling with another guy who was "driving" a rather new Wing that had been turned into a 'trike! It was had a steering wheel and true "underneath" exhaust with get this.... Flowmaster mufflers.... rather loud... actually sounded pretty cool! That's all I have to say about that. -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 11:42 AM >To: JOE NAGY >Cc: DC Cycles List >Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply > >Personally, I never could figure out how >to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, >golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those >clubs on the bike either. So I gave up golf (for >a while at least - $till in $earch of a championship >length cour$e with decent green$ fee$. > >Dale (the Horkster) > >PS: And my clubs are probably about 20 years old, >too, just like my bike! > > > >JOE NAGY wrote: >> >> Horkster-- >> I've been trying to corrupt some of the young'uns around the office, but >> I swear most of 'em were raised by Joan Claybrook! No suit-n-tie deal >> around here either. Of course all of them -gasp!- play golf. Whatdya >> gonna do . . . >> J. Nagy >> 85 Kawi ZX900 >> 72 Aermacchi/H-D SX350 Sprint >> 79 Yam RD400F >> >> >>> Dale Horstman - 3/13/98 11:12 AM >>> >> I think there are far more recreational bikers (no offense >> to anyone) in the DC area than there are hard-core commute >> to work and ride all weekend type bikers. With some folks >> it's the suit and tie requirements of their job, with others, >> well...? >> >> I personally used to hate the hot weather down here, when I >> moved down from Pennsylvania in 1992. Then my wife got me >> hooked (yeah, it's her fault) on motorcycles, and I suddenly >> realized that I had near year-round riding weather right >> here (at least by my definition). Even 90+ degrees is >> tolerable when you are moving fast enough! :-) >> >> I've ridden to work every day this week except Monday (some >> morning rain scared me off, then it got beatiful and warm, >> and I was kicking myself - I did take a nice ride Monday evening), >> and yes, I don't see too many other bikers this time of year >> (although I waved at two this morning, go figure). They start to come >> out of the wood-work when things warm up, but then that's still >> mainly on weekends. >> >> So Joe, I guess I do appreciate the roads and weather down here, >> but our crowd is still kinda small. Gotta go recruit some more... >> >> Anyway! Cheers, and ride safe! >> >> Dale (the Horkster) >> >> 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD >> 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 >> >> JOE NAGY wrote: >> > >> > Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I >> > moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see >> not >> > one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more >> surprised >> > to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? >> > >> > I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great >> > roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the >> frozen >> > prairie would do it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:07:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01580; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:07:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08392; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00829; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:07:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id MAA14609; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:07:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA27397; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:07:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.32.84.59]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980313170706.WXKX4928@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:07:06 -0500 From: "Linda Tanner" To: "Dc-Cycles" Cc: "'JOE NAGY'" Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:07:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <19980313170706.WXKX4928@LJTanner.mcit.com> I ride every day. We went business casual here last year, so I just bring in a pair of slacks that I change into. I keep my cowboys boots (work shoes) under my desk. Before we went business casual, I wore a dress every day that I carried (with shoes, slip etc.) and changed once I got here. It's sure easier this way. I have this huge pile of my riding gear here in my cube. One piece cordura riding suit, electric glove and chaps and vest, neck warmer, tights and sweatshirt (when it's really cold). I need my own closet. Some of are fortunate (and crazy). LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:19:22 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02103; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:19:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08501; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:19:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemini.smart.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01711; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:19:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from richard (max2p210.smart.net [206.97.127.210]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12426; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:19:03 -0500 Message-ID: <35096A00.6087@smart.net> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:16:48 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Gimer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply References: <350961C9.52A9C448@mci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale Horstman wrote: > > Personally, I never could figure out how > to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, > golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those > clubs on the bike either. So I gave up golf (for > a while at least - $till in $earch of a championship > length cour$e with decent green$ fee$. > > Dale (the Horkster) Try Little Bennett Golf Course up in northern Montgomery County. Excellent layout, not too crowded, and reasonable greens fees. If you have friends that will drive your clubs up there for you, it is also an excellent area to ride. -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:30:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02414; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08606; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:30:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02203; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id AD053D0266; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:29:41 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313112030.00f1f1a0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:20:30 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:27 AM 3/13/98 -0500, JOE NAGY wrote: >Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I >moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see not >one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more surprised >to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? > >I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great >roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the frozen >prairie would do it. I think the biggest problem for most riders around here is the ice. With all the freezes & thaws it's easy to get ice. 2 of us reported ice yesterday. The other thing is the traffic. I think this area is second only to Los Angeles in traffic density (and I'm sure we lead in density of drivers :-) Combine that with no legal lane splitting, crazed yuppies zooming around in their Lexi and Expeditions, and a very international set of drivers, including diplomats, and you get quite a mix! Me, I love it. It's a challenge and a lesson. When to push, when to flow. It's the best way for me to get around. anything's okay if it's got less than 4 wheels, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:44:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02785; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08730; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02824; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A04566801C4; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:43:33 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313124452.00f22d10@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:52 -0500 To: DC Cycles List From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply In-Reply-To: <350961C9.52A9C448@mci.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:41 AM 3/13/98 -0500, Dale Horstman wrote: >Personally, I never could figure out how >to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, >golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those >clubs on the bike either. So I gave up golf (for >a while at least - $till in $earch of a championship >length cour$e with decent green$ fee$. Motorized polo? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:44:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02790; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08728; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02823; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A04466801C4; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:43:32 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313124417.00f24c50@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:44:17 -0500 To: "'DC Cycles List'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:28 AM 3/13/98 -0500, Tom Zell wrote: >I would ride my VFR to work everyday(so long as it's not raining) but >because of the "dress code" we have here at the office I can't. I don't >like to carry a suit and tie w/all the trimmings in a bag anyway... >kinda defeats the purpose of looking professional when everything is >wrinkled beyond use. That's why I got my Aerostich. I carry my suit coat loosely folded in my luggage, and keep my dress shoes in the office. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:48:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02935; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:48:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08808; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:48:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlt5.dlt.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03052; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:47:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803131747.MAA03052@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: from ANITA by dlt5.dlt.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id F4V743KV; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:57:08 -0500 X-Sender: 2xracers@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:48:16 -0500 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: RE: Westerly Sunday Ride In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Okay, since the weather appears to be cooperating I can definitely say that I'll be at the Exxon in Middleburg by about 10:45 am or so. If I'm not readily visible at the Exxon, I'll be checking out that pastry shop that Michael mentioned! I'd like to hit the road by 11:15 at the latest... so, if you know for sure you'll be there you can drop me a line (or call 703-406-8046 up until 10:00 am Sunday), and we'll make sure to wait until everyone is accounted for. If you decided to join the ride at the last minute and miss us in Middleburg, our route will be Rte 748 (Sam Fred Road) north to Rte 734 (Snickersville Gap Turnpike) which we'll follow all the way to Bluemont, VA. I hope everyone has a great time riding this weekend! Anita 95 Nighthawk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 12:49:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02961; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA08848; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03142; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:49:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA03265 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:49:34 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:49:34 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:44 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 12 TEXT >Personally, I never could figure out how >to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, >golf, with motorcycling Coming out of New York (state) a couple of years ago, I overtook a pair of wingers with their club bags bungeed across the passenger accomodations. Michael J. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:01:24 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03228; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09340; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:01:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03697; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:01:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id NAA08867; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA14157; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:00:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313180041.YPYD27160@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:00:41 -0600 Message-ID: <3509744A.8C086620@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:00:42 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Lapp CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: AMA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan Lapp asked: > > We should get the AMA involved to change the DC statue!!! That's why we > all pay our dues, right? YOU DO BELONG TO THE AMA, RIGHT? > At the risk of starting another thread war, no, I am consciously not a member of the AMA. I'm sure they've done a lot of good work on the behalf of motorcyclists everywhere, but none of my money is going to fight against the helmet laws. I won't join until they give up that cause. PS: And I could use that parts discount, too! Dale (the Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:04:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03377; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09576; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:04:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03910; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:04:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-190.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.190]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA26079; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:10:27 -0500 Message-ID: <350974F2.73062EDD@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:03:31 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Zell CC: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'JOE NAGY'" , "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's easy to wear a suit with coat and tie and ride to work. Option 1) a pair of Sears coveralls for the summer, and a snowmobile suit for the winter or Option 2) an Aerostich. In the morning it's usually cool enough to get to work without sweating too badly and at night you can change when you get home. You will also need to have at least one piece of decent luggage so you can fold your jacket carefully and carry it to work. I wear cowboy boots with my suit, so that's not a problem. If your heritage or sense of fashion precludes boots with your suit, do what the ladies do and keep a pair of dress shoes at the office. Leon. Tom Zell wrote: > I would ride my VFR to work everyday(so long as it's not raining) but > because of the "dress code" we have here at the office I can't. I don't > like to carry a suit and tie w/all the trimmings in a bag anyway... > kinda defeats the purpose of looking professional when everything is > wrinkled beyond use. > > When I worked for a firm out in Loudon(with a less stringent dress code) > I rode my CB750F all the time. Most of us there had bikes and we rode > them to work just about everyday. > > -Tom > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 11:13 AM > >To: JOE NAGY > >Cc: DC Cycles List > >Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply > > > >I think there are far more recreational bikers (no offense > >to anyone) in the DC area than there are hard-core commute > >to work and ride all weekend type bikers. With some folks > >it's the suit and tie requirements of their job, with others, > >well...? > > > >I personally used to hate the hot weather down here, when I > >moved down from Pennsylvania in 1992. Then my wife got me > >hooked (yeah, it's her fault) on motorcycles, and I suddenly > >realized that I had near year-round riding weather right > >here (at least by my definition). Even 90+ degrees is > >tolerable when you are moving fast enough! :-) > > > >I've ridden to work every day this week except Monday (some > >morning rain scared me off, then it got beatiful and warm, > >and I was kicking myself - I did take a nice ride Monday evening), > >and yes, I don't see too many other bikers this time of year > >(although I waved at two this morning, go figure). They start to come > >out of the wood-work when things warm up, but then that's still > >mainly on weekends. > > > >So Joe, I guess I do appreciate the roads and weather down here, > >but our crowd is still kinda small. Gotta go recruit some more... > > > >Anyway! Cheers, and ride safe! > > > >Dale (the Horkster) > > > >1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD > >1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > > > > > > > >JOE NAGY wrote: > >> > >> Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I > >> moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see not > >> one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more surprised > >> to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? > >> > >> I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great > >> roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the frozen > >> prairie would do it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:11:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03564; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:11:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09887; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from the.martinagency.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04301; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by the.martinagency.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA26008 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:04:15 -0800 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:10:53 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:12:03 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Chris Norloff wrote: I think the biggest problem for most riders around here is the ice. With all the freezes & thaws it's easy to get ice. 2 of us reported ice yesterday. The other thing is the traffic. I think this area is second only to Los Angeles in traffic density (and I'm sure we lead in density of drivers :-) Combine that with no legal lane splitting, crazed yuppies zooming around in their Lexi and Expeditions, and a very international set of drivers, including diplomats, and you get quite a mix! Me, I love it. It's a challenge and a lesson. When to push, when to flow. It's the best way for me to get around. anything's okay if it's got less than 4 wheels, Chris Norloff DCers, I hope too many people didn't take my "fair weather biker" crack to heart, because really, braving the cold and sometimes icy roads ain't for everyone. And you're right, the traffic in the city (and all of Northern VA for that matter) is bad news. What amazes me is that more people aren't out riding in the country during these long and warm spring and fall seasons. And for that matter, why there aren't more bikers in VA, period. Last time I saw a list of registrations by state, states like Minnesota and Michigan had more riders than Virginia. Now that's just plain weird. J.Nagy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:31:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03983; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:31:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10387; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA05148; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22386; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:31:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35097B48.31FDEB0C@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:30:33 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: GSXR-750..Purple! References: <19980313154044.TWVJ27632@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WOW!! He did some serious mods to that bike!!!! Hope I never modify a bike like that! CT From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:43:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04146; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10526; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:43:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA05501; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28153; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:42:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35097E05.763FA870@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:42:13 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX CC: JOE NAGY , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply References: <350961C9.52A9C448@mci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I to have put off golf for the most part lately, but mostly because of the expense and time...Every weekend this past summer, I put no less than 400 miles on the gixer..sometimes a lot more than that... Adding in gas (lots of it), many food stops (very much required) and 3-5 sets of tires per year (that really sucks) I couldn't really afford to play golf any more... As for carrying clubs, back in Jr. High and High school I was on the golf team, and before turning 16 and getting my cage (ugly 425hp Camaro), I used to put my clubs over my shoulder and ride my itty bitty KE100 the 12 miles to the course every day!! The only time it was ever tough was on high wind days...but SW Oklahoma never gets any of those ;-) Add me to the year round rider list...This year I've been bummed lately though..getting rid of the gixer very soon and haven't been riding it, and the KZ still requires a regulator which will soon be rectified (he he.. I made a funny)... Collin (measely 26k miles since I moved here a year and a half ago) Dale Horstman wrote: > Personally, I never could figure out how > to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, > golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those > clubs on the bike either. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:53:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04389; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:53:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10667; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA05902; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A07E5C022C; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:52:46 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313135310.00f2bbb0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:53:10 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: AMA In-Reply-To: <3509744A.8C086620@mci.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:00 PM 3/13/98 -0500, Dale Horstman wrote: >At the risk of starting another thread war, no, I am >consciously not a member of the AMA. I'm sure they've >done a lot of good work on the behalf of motorcyclists >everywhere, but none of my money is going to fight >against the helmet laws. I won't join until they give >up that cause. I can certainly relate. With the AMA, it's a trade-off ... they do some fantastic work for motorcyclists' rights all over the country. Basically it's either ABATE chapters (usually state-level only) and the AMA (national level), or individuals who band together for a local cause (Virginia Coalition of Motorcyclists). I think it's worth it to join the AMA. I'm not currently a member, but that has to do with my dropping most memberships and magazines for financial reasons. I got a good education about this dilemma when I was fighting for the Maryland Motorcycle Safety Program. We lobbied through the winter 'cause that's when the legislative session was on. And it was interesting to see who came. Instructors, a few motorcyclist rights promoters, and ABATE folks. There was no one from the sport bike crowd, no one from the touring bike crowd. But the folks who believe that helmets kill, that helmets have killed more people than all the wars this century, those folks were always there and were always working for motorcyclists' rights. With their help, Maryland still has a motorcycle safety program. So the old saying that politics makes strange bedfellows is still apt (though it might be a bit dated in these '90s!). Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:55:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04421; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:55:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10684; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA06006; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id NAA29716 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA21490 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:52:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313185249.YDPU4928@XXXXXX> for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:52:49 -0500 Message-ID: <35098081.35BDE148@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:52:49 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: moto polo References: <3.0.1.32.19980313124452.00f22d10@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought of that, I could use the throttle lock and even swing with my right hand. Putting might be a bitch, however. All those tire ruts on the greens... :-) Would the caddy have to ride pillion? Hmm. Can you tell it's Friday? I want outta here! Dale (the Horkster) Chris Norloff wrote: > > At 11:41 AM 3/13/98 -0500, Dale Horstman wrote: > >Personally, I never could figure out how > >to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, > >golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those > >clubs on the bike either. So I gave up golf (for > >a while at least - $till in $earch of a championship > >length cour$e with decent green$ fee$. > > Motorized polo? > > Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 13:58:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04738; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10731; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:58:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA06509; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id NAA00248; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:57:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:56:50 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA02@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'JOE NAGY'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:57:09 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got my first bike in August & it hasn't sat for a week except last week, mainly due to riding in with my fianc=E9e in the cage. However, = I ride all the time I can - I LOVE IT!! I got electrics because I knew I wouldn't ride as much without being at least semi-warm & I wanted to become more proficient by the Spring, so they've been a godsend of an investment! I agree with Chris, I look at rain, cold, etc. more as a challenge than anything else. I mean, I'm not going to be stupid & ride around in freezing rain or ice, but I would like to learn to handle the tougher riding situations (rain, etc.) in case I ever simply can not avoid = them, like if I get stuck somewhere on the bike. Unfortunately, my car has now sat for about 2 weeks without being = turned over once. I just hope it does start if I ever need it again!! ; ) On the work clothes problem: I leave my heels & my nice boots at work, stuff a wrinkle-proof dress in my backpack & change when I get to work... Sometimes I'll wear nice pants under my leathers. It works = out ok for me, although I do get a lot of strange looks when I'm on the elevator... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: JOE NAGY [SMTP:NAGYJ@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 1:12 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; cnorloff@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply >=20 > Chris Norloff wrote: >=20 > I think the biggest problem for most riders around here is the ice.=20 > With > all the freezes & thaws it's easy to get ice. 2 of us reported ice > yesterday. >=20 > The other thing is the traffic. I think this area is second only to > Los > Angeles in traffic density (and I'm sure we lead in density of = drivers >=20 > :-) > Combine that with no legal lane splitting, crazed yuppies zooming > around > in their Lexi and Expeditions, and a very international set of > drivers, > including diplomats, and you get quite a mix! >=20 > Me, I love it. It's a challenge and a lesson. When to push, when to > flow. > It's the best way for me to get around. >=20 > anything's okay if it's got less than 4 wheels, > Chris Norloff >=20 > DCers, > I hope too many people didn't take my "fair weather biker" crack to > heart, because really, braving the cold and sometimes icy roads ain't > for everyone. And you're right, the traffic in the city (and all of > Northern VA for that matter) is bad news. What amazes me is that = more > people aren't out riding in the country during these long and warm > spring and fall seasons. And for that matter, why there aren't more > bikers in VA, period. Last time I saw a list of registrations by > state, > states like Minnesota and Michigan had more riders than Virginia. = Now > that's just plain weird. =20 > J.Nagy >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:00:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04835; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:00:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA10786; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:00:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06621; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id NAA02273; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA11162; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313185945.YFHX4928@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:59:45 -0500 Message-ID: <35098221.8E26A15B@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:59:45 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Collin T. Fagan" CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply References: <350961C9.52A9C448@mci.com> <35097E05.763FA870@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Collin, We all know I'm a big KZ fan, but isn't that a bit of a steep dropoff after the Gixer? =:-o Anyway, you'll have much less bodywork to drag in the corners! Glad to hear you'll be back to riding soon! Dale (the Horkster) Collin T. wrote: > > This year I've been bummed lately > though..getting rid of the gixer very soon and haven't been riding it, and the > KZ still requires a regulator which will soon be rectified (he he.. I made a > funny)... > > Collin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:02:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04902; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:02:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA10801; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:02:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06721; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18880; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:01:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01303; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:01:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803131901.OAA01303@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: moto polo To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:01:55 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: <35098081.35BDE148@mci.com> from "Dale Horstman " at Mar 13, 98 01:52:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I thought of that, I could use the > throttle lock and even swing with > my right hand. Us lefties would have a much better shot! :-) > Putting might be a bitch, however. > All those tire ruts on the greens... :-) Well, they came out with street hocky, how about parking lot polo? > Would the caddy have to ride pillion? Hmm. Just ride by and pick up a new club. It's not like we're walking. > Can you tell it's Friday? I want outta here! I have to give a briefing to the director of my agency at 3:30. I'm in a full suit and tie. Can't use the bike because I need to take a heavy laptop with me that doesn't like vibrations. I wanna go home and RIDE!! Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:05:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05003; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA10905; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:05:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06859; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:05:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21530; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:05:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02097; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:05:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803131905.OAA02097@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply To: jlobrien@XXXXXX (O'Brien, Jeannette" ) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:05:12 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA02@badge.tuckerflyer.com> from "O'Brien, Jeannette" " at Mar 13, 98 01:57:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I got my first bike in August & it hasn't sat for a week except last > week, mainly due to riding in with my fiancee in the cage. You mean Tom has been a BAD influence on you?!?! For shame. > Unfortunately, my car has now sat for about 2 weeks without being turned > over once. I just hope it does start if I ever need it again!! ; ) My car serves as a portable garage. Holds my tools, the motorcycle cover and lock when I'm out riding, and other things. And for times like today when I can't use the bike, it comes in handy. :-) Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:10:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05307; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA10997; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:10:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA07237; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:10:20 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.8 3-18-1997)) id 852565C6.00697FB7 ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:12:19 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C6.006967A8.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:12:17 -0400 Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII This year I've been bummed lately though..getting rid of the gixer very soon and haven't been riding it, Well I guess that means you're going to have to get a copy of MANX TT to get your knee dragging fix now. I thought you were going to go race at Summit Point this year. Any plans to replace the Gixer any time soon? Steve Beck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:14:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05400; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11056; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA07417; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:14:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-190.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.190]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA28214; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:20:34 -0500 Message-ID: <35098564.4EB1E4AB@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:13:40 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: moto polo References: <3.0.1.32.19980313124452.00f22d10@mail.toward.com> <35098081.35BDE148@mci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale and Chris discussed moto polo: This ought to be a two people per bike sport. Let the pillion operate the stick and the rider put her in position to use it. (This is of course a co-ed sport) It would also work to have her operate the bike and he would stick. Leon. Dale Horstman wrote: > I thought of that, I could use the > throttle lock and even swing with > my right hand. > > Putting might be a bitch, however. > All those tire ruts on the greens... :-) > > Would the caddy have to ride pillion? Hmm. > > Can you tell it's Friday? I want outta here! > > Dale (the Horkster) > > Chris Norloff wrote: > > > > At 11:41 AM 3/13/98 -0500, Dale Horstman wrote: > > >Personally, I never could figure out how > > >to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, > > >golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those > > >clubs on the bike either. So I gave up golf (for > > >a while at least - $till in $earch of a championship > > >length cour$e with decent green$ fee$. > > > > Motorized polo? > > > > Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:24:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05584; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11188; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:24:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA07789; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:24:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19831 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:24:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350987B4.D13F92F@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:23:32 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FF9F3@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bummer for all you guys (and girls) that have to park outside in DC... Here at the DOT building, we have dedicated motorcycle parking right next to the guard shack, it's out of the weather, and only $6 per month... To make the deal even sweeter, you can still collect transit benefits cause they assume that you don't ride in the cold and bad weather....good thing i have all those things saved up since I've been using them so much lately :( For any of you other federal workers in the area (6&D) check into it with our parking management (366-0064) and they might be able to hook you up with a spot....plenty of em open. Collin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:29:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05796; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:29:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11267; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:29:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA08176; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:29:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22302; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:29:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350988DC.21AC68D6@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:28:28 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sbeck@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: gixer gone for due to racing References: <852565C6.0068ED00.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess I should have clarified...I'm getting rid of the 93 so it can be replaced with a 97 model that will be for the racetrack only... Although I'm not going to be ready for the first race date of April 11, I'm hoping I'll still be able to pit with Brian McCoy (unless I've irked him off by not calling lately) CT sbeck@XXXXXX wrote: > This year I've been bummed lately though..getting rid of the gixer very > soon and haven't been riding it, > > Well I guess that means you're going to have to get a copy of MANX TT to > get your knee dragging fix now. > > I thought you were going to go race at Summit Point this year. Any plans > to replace the Gixer any time soon? > > Steve Beck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:46:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06217; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:46:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11453; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:46:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA09008; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id NAA22561 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:45:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA18459 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:45:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.32.84.59]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980313194537.YSRF4928@XXXXXX> for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:45:37 -0500 From: "Linda Tanner" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: MCs and Laptops Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:45:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199803131901.OAA01303@shell.clark.net> Message-Id: <19980313194537.YSRF4928@LJTanner.mcit.com> >From the day I started riding to/from work (3 years ago), I have been carrying a laptop with me. That includes my 50mph get-off. The laptop was a IBM Thinkpad and it was strapped to my tank. When I finally got home after the ordeal, I plugged it in (with great trepidation) and it came right up. Truly the Timex of laptops. Currently I have a Toshiba Tecra that weighs a pound more than the Thinkpad and rides in one of my saddlebags. Back and forth everyday. I did make a closed cell foam envelope to lessen the effects of the vibrations and have never shown any ill effects. FYI YMMV LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze -----Original Message----- From: Louis F. Caplan [mailto:louis@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 2:02 PM To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Cc: DC-Cycles List Subject: Re: moto polo > I have to give a briefing to the director of my agency at 3:30. I'm in a full suit and tie. Can't use the bike because I need to take a heavy laptop with me that doesn't like vibrations. I wanna go home and RIDE!! Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:52:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06417; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11528; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:51:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA09349; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:51:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.76.136]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA17201 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:51:09 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: Subject: Re: AMA Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:47:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4eb8$daaf1c20$884c440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Dale-- Sometimes you gotta take the good with the bad. I was once a member of both PETA and the NRA. I'm a vegetarian and carry a gun; what else could I do? The AMA is doing a lot of important things for you and needs your support. You can join the AMA and contribute to a pro-helmet-law group. The part of your AMA dues that go to fighting helmet laws will be offset by the efforts of the helmet law group you support, while the AMA can better continue securing your right to ride. Later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 14:53:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06439; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:53:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11763; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA09413; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:53:18 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565C6.006D0E4C ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:51:10 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C6.006C9245.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:47:50 -0500 Subject: Re: moto polo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=AwiOEQqDUkIjAo1V0IFOKlfVZpzZjC3u68gikW5KW1pY6J3RnxN5NWt1" --0__=AwiOEQqDUkIjAo1V0IFOKlfVZpzZjC3u68gikW5KW1pY6J3RnxN5NWt1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Back at school we used to play mountainbike polo all the time...I imaging the motorcycle equivalent of getting the polo mallet caught in your front wheel, ripping out two spokes, and going over the handlebars only to have the MTB land on top of you would cause much more damage than only a skinned knee. :-) -Doug see y'all Sunday! 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We lobbied through the winter 'cause >that's when the legislative session was on. And it was interesting to see >who came. Instructors, a few motorcyclist rights promoters, and ABATE >folks. There was no one from the sport bike crowd, no one from the touring >bike crowd. But the folks who believe that helmets kill, that helmets have >killed more people than all the wars this century, those folks were always >there and were always working for motorcyclists' rights. With their help, >Maryland still has a motorcycle safety program. Just FYI: MD Abate has been set back again in the federal appeals court. Federal appeals ruled that even though MD failed to provide a list of approved helmets (though the law is written that they would), MD recieves federal funding for roadways and is subject to the mandate of our ever watchful big brother. I have mixed feelings on this. First, I think Mike (?lastname) from Abate, should have figured this would happen if they went to a FEDERAL COURT!!! I'm shaking my head. Second, it just pisses me off that MD would allow this to happen as well. Like a couple of children asking Uncle Sam to settle their dispute, and Uncle Sam has no interest in either sides case. Uncle Sam has Uncle Sams interests in mind. BTW, the argument that helmets kill is a smokescreen! It's just a ruse to get more people concerned about the lidless rider agenda. I used to be a contributing member of NORML of DC (National Organization for Reform of Marijauna Laws), until they started this same sort of tactic. They tried to convince everyone that Pot is medicinal, and has desirable textile qualities. A ruse for the potsmoker agenda. I won't be baited into a pissing match either way concerning the use non-use of helmets based on whether helmets are killers or saviours, and whether or not wearing one saves society from stupid acts by stupid people.....Unless you have some substantive, statistically relevent facts to back your case. Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:05:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06667; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12206; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:05:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo30.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA09992; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:05:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo30.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id PQPLa15070; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:04:31 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <22bf5908.35099149@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:04:31 EST To: linda.tanner@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: 3 bikes -Reply Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/13/98 12:15:10 PM, linda.tanner@XXXXXX wrote: <> I have one comment........FIRST GEAR OVERPANTS.......you can wear your regular siut or whatever underneath......they work GREAT Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:08:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06708; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12249; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:08:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10072; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:08:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-219-92.pitb.grid.net [207.205.219.92]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02693; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:08:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980313150948.006a2f20@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:09:48 -0500 To: "Linda Tanner" From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: MCs and Laptops Cc: "Dc-Cycles" In-Reply-To: <19980313194537.YSRF4928@LJTanner.mcit.com> References: <199803131901.OAA01303@shell.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" When I commute to work, I just strap my laptop case to the rack on the bike of the bike. So far my Dell Inspiron (P233 with a 13.3" screen) hasn't complained. On my trip to Asheville, I put the laptop in much smaller case (more like a padded envelope), then put that inside a hard bag on the rack. Again, no troubles. To limit vibration, strapping it to the passenger portion of the seat might be better than the tank or tail. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:13:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06746; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:12:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12342; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10171; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id NAHAa14703; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:09:43 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <6f889f8b.35099289@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:09:43 EST To: mrider@XXXXXX, Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: moto polo Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 despite the afterthought of a disclaimer ..... I MUST ask why it's assumed the pillion is a HER ;D ............. my first pillion after all was a MAN heh heh Marcy In a message dated 3/13/98 2:29:11 PM, mrider@XXXXXX wrote: <> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:15:31 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06770; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:15:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12380; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA.COM by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10236; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:07:50 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:15:31 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, NAGYJ@XXXXXX Subject: Joe, Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Joe, You've heard from Jeannette about the Crow Bar's cool factor. Fun place to hang out, with pool tables and the biker dive bar atmosphere. There are a lot of big expensive hotels in the area with garages. The Crow Bar is on K St. and 21st St. (maybe 22nd), so any hotel with an address around 2100 on M St. or K St. should work, as will the expensive Mayflower on Connecticut Ave. For cheaper places within driving distance, check out Arlington, Va. Sean 95 F3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hate to interrupt this whole nudie-bar thing but I wonder if someone could float me a clue about the Crow Bar. Cool or lame? If cool, is there a hotel around with secure bike parking? Thanks for the help; don't know DC too well. Joe 85 Ninja 900 Richmond VA <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:21:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06834; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:21:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12496; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:21:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10382; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:20:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id OAA07446; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:20:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA15113; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980313202026.ZCZM4928@[166.41.242.141]>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:20:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:16 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: "kevin thomas" CC: Subject: Re: AMA X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980313202026.ZCZM4928@[166.41.242.141]> Kevin Thomas wrote: >Dale-- > >Sometimes you gotta take the good with the bad. I was once a member of both >PETA and the NRA. I'm a vegetarian and carry a gun; what else could I do? LOL! >The AMA is doing a lot of important things for you and needs your support. >You can join the AMA and contribute to a pro-helmet-law group. The part of >your AMA dues that go to fighting helmet laws will be offset by the efforts >of the helmet law group you support, while the AMA can better continue >securing your right to ride. I quit the AMA about two years ago because I thought they were just too pro Harley with no regard to other marquees or rider concerns. I rejoined last year because, like it or not the AMA is the one organization that will go to bat for you if you feel you've been unjusted because you ride. Sort of like the ACLU. Don't like all the cases they take, but they do a good job sticking to what's right (whether I agree or not). Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:33:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06977; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:33:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12571; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10611; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:32:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA10875 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA12674; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:31:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313203145.ZGBZ27160@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:31:45 -0600 Message-ID: <350997B1.6A0E1CE5@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:31:45 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: AMA References: <19980313195934.UZKP27632@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Peer wrote: > > > Just FYI: > > MD Abate has been set back again in the federal appeals court. > Federal appeals ruled that even though MD failed to provide a list of > approved helmets (though the law is written that they would), MD recieves > federal funding for roadways and is subject to the mandate of our ever > watchful big brother. > > For what it's worth, I found an ABATE (I think) webpage somewhere that had a ready to send letter to the MD legislature asking just what their approved list of helmets was. On a lark, I decided to fill it out and send it via email. A few weeks later, I got a form letter response via snail mail. Essentially MD is claiming that any helmet that is DOT and/or Snell approved is suitable. It's still not satisfying the letter of the MD law, and I agree that MD should re-word the law somehow, but at least they responded. I've found it's much easier to be involved with real-world laws and politics now that stuff is accessible via computers. In a lot of ways, it's kind of neat. :-) Dale (the politically responsible citizen Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:34:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06992; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:34:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12634; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:34:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10661; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:34:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA11777; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA07461; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313203329.ZGHN27160@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:33:29 -0600 Message-ID: <3509981A.D82A59EA@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:33:30 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jinn Sinn CC: Leon Begeman , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: moto polo References: <6f889f8b.35099289@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Better hand-eye coordination? Hah! Gotcha there! No chauvinists in this crowd! Dale (the Horkster) Jinn Sinn wrote: > > despite the afterthought of a disclaimer ..... I MUST ask why it's assumed the > pillion is a HER ;D ............. my first pillion after all was a MAN heh heh > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 15:43:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07250; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:43:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12718; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA11031; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:43:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id PAA05880; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:43:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:41:50 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA19@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , mrider@XXXXXX, Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Re: moto polo Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:42:08 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I personally think the guy should always be operating the stick. - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 3:10 PM > To: mrider@XXXXXX; Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Re: moto polo > > despite the afterthought of a disclaimer ..... I MUST ask why it's > assumed the > pillion is a HER ;D ............. my first pillion after all was a MAN > heh heh > > Marcy > > In a message dated 3/13/98 2:29:11 PM, mrider@XXXXXX wrote: > > < operate > the stick and the rider put her in position to use it. (This is of > course a co-ed sport) It would also work to have her operate the bike > and he would stick.>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 16:11:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08762; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13460; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:11:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13531; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id QAA00993; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:11:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma000986; Fri, 13 Mar 98 16:11:19 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:11:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: AMA Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:11:45 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Todd Peer writes: "They tried to convince everyone that Pot is medicinal, and has desirable textile qualities. A ruse for the potsmoker agenda." Hardly. I know of one MD who used pot to deal with the naseau caused by chemotherapy before his death. It probably hasn't been scientifically studied nearly enough, but there's lots of anecdotal evidence that there are medicinal uses for marijuana. If our nation was able to deal with drugs in a vaguely rational way this is something we'd be investigating further and finding a way to take advantage of. --John Whiteside. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 16:47:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09485; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:47:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA13850; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:46:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA15083; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-190.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.190]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA00192 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:52:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3509A919.D46F9DA5@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:46:01 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: moto polo References: <6f889f8b.35099289@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marcy, That's an easy question - - when I play, I want to ride, therefore she'll have to sit on the back. I would guess that were you to play, you would also ride. Dale is the only one who wants to use the stick, works out nice that he's already got someone to ferry him between shots. Leon. Jinn Sinn wrote: > despite the afterthought of a disclaimer ..... I MUST ask why it's assumed the > pillion is a HER ;D ............. my first pillion after all was a MAN heh heh > > Marcy > > In a message dated 3/13/98 2:29:11 PM, mrider@XXXXXX wrote: > > < the stick and the rider put her in position to use it. (This is of > course a co-ed sport) It would also work to have her operate the bike > and he would stick.>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 17:16:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10055; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA14076; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:16:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA16016; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id RAA26719; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA17710; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:15:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980313221524.ZRDQ27160@XXXXXX>; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:15:24 -0600 Message-ID: <3509AFFC.CAEBB6B7@mci.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:15:24 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leon Begeman CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: moto polo References: <6f889f8b.35099289@aol.com> <3509A919.D46F9DA5@illuminet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And I can easily see over her helmet, too! :-) Horkster Leon Begeman wrote: > > Marcy, > That's an easy question - - when I play, I want to ride, therefore she'll have to > sit on the back. I would guess that were you to play, you would also ride. Dale > is the only one who wants to use the stick, works out nice that he's already got > someone to ferry him between shots. > Leon. > > Jinn Sinn wrote: > > > despite the afterthought of a disclaimer ..... I MUST ask why it's assumed the > > pillion is a HER ;D ............. my first pillion after all was a MAN heh heh > > > > Marcy > > > > In a message dated 3/13/98 2:29:11 PM, mrider@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > < > the stick and the rider put her in position to use it. (This is of > > course a co-ed sport) It would also work to have her operate the bike > > and he would stick.>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 18:58:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11775; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:58:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA14946; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA19097; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:57:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from krosenba.erols.com (207-172-75-212.s21.as12.man.erols.com [207.172.75.212]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA16052 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:57:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980313185204.007caa50@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: krosenba@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:52:04 -0500 To: DC-cycles From: Karl Rosenbaum Subject: Daytona and beyond Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi All, Not much of a writer on this list, but I read all the time. But I thought that I would post a little note about my last trip. I headed out on the 28'th of February and decided to try and get one of the Iron Butt 1000 in 1 done it I could. So I took off at 6AM and made it West Memphis Arkansas in about 17 hours, well within the time limit. So the first part of the trip was starting out well. My butt was killing me, but I was so tired it did not really matter. Day two - my riding partner and I awoke to find snow on the bikes, about a 1 1/2 on the ground. So we gingerly took off to get something to eat and to see if the sun would melt some of the snow. After eating it was just wet so we continued on to Hot Springs, Arkansas. I am also participating in the Iron Butt 25/50 National Park stamp contest. This is simply seeing at least 50 national parks in 25 states or more in a year or less. Well I had cleaned out the eastern seaboard in the last 10 months and needed to go way west to get the additional 5 states. So back to the story ... we hit Hot Springs and it was about 70 degrees without a cloud in the sky. We visited the park and rode around the city. Needless to say there were signs all over the place like " see where President Clinton worked as a chid" or "see where President Clinton lived as a child" but the best one (or worst) was "see president Clinton's mother's cemetery". A lot of people capitalizing on the name. We decided to slab it to the next location which was in Jasper TX. The wind in Arkansas and Texas had the 2 bikes close to a 45 degree angle almost all afternoon on the slab. We pulled off the highway and continued on south on RT 59 in Texas. We finally pulled into the motel in Jasper at 8pm. No snow or rain when we got up so we headed to Big Thicket National Preserve. With another stamp in the book we were off to Louisiana. In Lafayette another park was had ... drive into Mississippi. There we stopped at the Gulf Islands National Seashore. We had reservations for the night, but were so impressed with the place we pitched our tents instead. I was just surprised at the cost: $15 a night for tent camping. RV's were only 3 dollars more! The rest of the drive to Daytona was uneventful except for passing all the cars/trucks with Harley's on trailers. I lost count after 100. We stopped in Penescola to see a friend and then we were off to Bulow campground. This is a great campground that is about 20 minutes from downtown Daytona. It is difficult to describe Daytona ... a lot of stuff going on. We went up and down main street twice and saw wall to wall bikes. Never have I seen that many bikes! Went to the track on Friday to see some time trials and the like for the big ride on Sunday. Since the weather forecast looked like crap we left at 4 am on Saturday and managed to stay out of the rain for about 4 hours, but that was about it. We managed to arrive back safe and sound in the area without any problems. 16 hours in the rain and I was completely dry wearing my First Gear Kilimanjaro Jacket and Expedition II pants. The gloves are another matter. Thank God for heated grips. Trip numbers: Total miles: 4124 Ava. per day: 632 cost for fuel: $125 MPG: 44.4 PS --> some you I met at the Polar Bear run. I traded in Granpa ('88 BMW K100LT) and recently got a '94 K1100LT. Great bike. Hopefully I can make it out to Middleburg on Sunday to meet up with you all. Karl Rosenbaum 94 BMW K1100 LT-A Woodbridge, VA http://www.erols.com/krosenba From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 19:44:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA12160; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:44:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA15977; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA19946; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:43:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.76.75]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA18589; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:43:15 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "DC-cycles" , "Karl Rosenbaum" Subject: Re: Daytona and beyond Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:39:32 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4ee1$a848e6c0$4b4c440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Karl wrote: The wind in Arkansas and Texas had the 2 bikes close to a 45 degree angle almost all afternoon on the slab. Karl-- Well, that helps even out the tire wear caused by all that straight-line riding. Just gotta hope the wind holds up for the return trip. ;-) later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 20:09:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA12578; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA16312; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:08:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA20686; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from krosenba.erols.com (207-172-75-212.s21.as12.man.erols.com [207.172.75.212]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA12564; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:08:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980313200303.007d0a00@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: krosenba@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:03:03 -0500 To: "kevin thomas" , "DC-cycles" From: Karl Rosenbaum Subject: Re: Daytona and beyond In-Reply-To: <01bd4ee1$a848e6c0$4b4c440c@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:39 PM 03/13/1998 -0500, kevin thomas wrote: >Well, that helps even out the tire wear caused by all that straight-line >riding. Just gotta hope the wind holds up for the return trip. ;-) No wind coming from the other side on the return. Just rain, lots of it. 2 days of it. Was wondering if it would stop ... well it didn't before I did. Still raining when I got into the house. Surprisingly I did only about half of the trip on the slab. We found some roads that we quite fast and twisty. I had having to replace tires, when the sides still look great! Karl Rosenbaum 94 BMW K1100 LT-A Woodbridge, VA http://www.erols.com/krosenba From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 23:04:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA14585; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:04:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA18031; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:04:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA24102; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:04:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id XAA15698; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:12:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:12:00 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: Tom Zell cc: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'JOE NAGY'" , "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Any reason not to leave a suit at work? Alternatively, find a place that cares more for what you do than what you look like. 8^) --garcia "Damp weather is very hard on the sciences." On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Tom Zell wrote: > I would ride my VFR to work everyday(so long as it's not raining) but > because of the "dress code" we have here at the office I can't. I don't > like to carry a suit and tie w/all the trimmings in a bag anyway... > kinda defeats the purpose of looking professional when everything is > wrinkled beyond use. > > When I worked for a firm out in Loudon(with a less stringent dress code) > I rode my CB750F all the time. Most of us there had bikes and we rode > them to work just about everyday. > > -Tom > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 11:13 AM > >To: JOE NAGY > >Cc: DC Cycles List > >Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply > > > >I think there are far more recreational bikers (no offense > >to anyone) in the DC area than there are hard-core commute > >to work and ride all weekend type bikers. With some folks > >it's the suit and tie requirements of their job, with others, > >well...? > > > >I personally used to hate the hot weather down here, when I > >moved down from Pennsylvania in 1992. Then my wife got me > >hooked (yeah, it's her fault) on motorcycles, and I suddenly > >realized that I had near year-round riding weather right > >here (at least by my definition). Even 90+ degrees is > >tolerable when you are moving fast enough! :-) > > > >I've ridden to work every day this week except Monday (some > >morning rain scared me off, then it got beatiful and warm, > >and I was kicking myself - I did take a nice ride Monday evening), > >and yes, I don't see too many other bikers this time of year > >(although I waved at two this morning, go figure). They start to come > >out of the wood-work when things warm up, but then that's still > >mainly on weekends. > > > >So Joe, I guess I do appreciate the roads and weather down here, > >but our crowd is still kinda small. Gotta go recruit some more... > > > >Anyway! Cheers, and ride safe! > > > >Dale (the Horkster) > > > >1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD > >1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > > > > > > > >JOE NAGY wrote: > >> > >> Nice to hear that not everyone around here is a fair-weather biker. I > >> moved here a few Januarys ago from Minnesota and was stunned to see not > >> one other bike while riding one 60-degree day. Was even more surprised > >> to see not too many bikes on the road come spring. What gives? > >> > >> I'm not sure Virginians appreciate what they have here with the great > >> roads and year-round riding weather. Maybe a few years up on the frozen > >> prairie would do it. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 13 23:58:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA14920; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:58:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA18580; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:58:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA24633; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:58:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA06111; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:45:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:45:45 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: "Collin T. Fagan" cc: DC-Cycles list Subject: Re: gixer gone for due to racing In-Reply-To: <350988DC.21AC68D6@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Collin T. Fagan wrote: > I guess I should have clarified...I'm getting rid of the 93 so it can be > replaced with a 97 model that will be for the racetrack only... Although I'm > not going to be ready for the first race date of April 11, I'm hoping I'll > still be able to pit with Brian McCoy (unless I've irked him off by not > calling lately) > CT Not at all.. heck, because of a tighness in the $$$ belt, I had to drop my start date to back into June... sucks to be poor. Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 01:13:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA16156; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:13:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA20166; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA25362; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:13:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id BAA29185; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:20:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:20:56 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: Tom Zell , "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Garcia Oliver wrote: > Alternatively, find a place that cares more for what you do than what you > look like. 8^) > Sorry; not "you" personally, but you "someone". And I neglected to do major snip of recaps. Mea culpa. --garcia "It takes less time to do something right than it does to explain why you did it wrong." Henry Longfellow. As I've just demonstrated. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 01:21:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA16202; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:21:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA21043; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA25453; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id BAA29831; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:29:17 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:29:17 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: dc-cycle cc: suzuki-l@XXXXXX Subject: clutch plates and springs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A friend would like your recommendations in choosing between Vesrah ($50) and Factory ($110) kits (or alternatives) for a 87 CBR 600. I'll send replies on to him. Thanks. --garcia "She held out her hand. The young man took it and left." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 03:25:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA17151; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:25:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA25276; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:25:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA00958; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:25:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id DAA19016; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:17:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:17:16 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: Garcia Oliver cc: dc-cycle , suzuki-l@XXXXXX Subject: Re: clutch plates and springs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've replaced several clutches in several bikes.. and I feel the ones that hold up best are OEM parts. This is especially true on Hondas. I tried the cheap Vesrah on a CB1100f - they died in under 10k miles. And I had Barnett plates in the VF500 - they were new at 14k and replaced at 26k - the Honda plates still look good now on my 500 (31K). It is more expensive, but IMHO, worth the cost. On Sat, 14 Mar 1998, Garcia Oliver wrote: > A friend would like your recommendations in choosing between Vesrah ($50) > and Factory ($110) kits (or alternatives) for a 87 CBR 600. > > I'll send replies on to him. > > Thanks. > > --garcia > > "She held out her hand. The young man took it and left." > Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 07:15:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA18093; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA27403; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:15:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA06215; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:15:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-37-46.s46.tnt7.ann.erols.com [207.172.37.46]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07222; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:15:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350A7555.2F3789FA@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:17:25 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gil M. Nissley" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Dunlop D 204 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gil M. Nissley wrote: > BTW Collin,Don...were you guys using street or GP compound(just > curious)? Gill, Most of the sets I've run are the street compound. I borrowed a rear GP compound for a test ride once (about 400 miles worth). The GP compound sticks a little (very little) better than the street compound, but its slides are less predictable. The street compounds slide out nice and smooth..fairly easy to control, even when your pushing the front. The GP would lurch a bit.. slip, grip, slip, etc. For street riding that's pretty scary and leaves you thinking of high sides a lot. I did take them out to my top secret semi-tracklike testing facility and they behaved better, but that's because I could get them really hot and was pushing them hard... When I was done, they really showed the heat cycling an noticable wear on the outside edges. They never performed like the Azarros at any point. Supposedly the new D207 in street compound is supposed to last fairly well and ride pretty good, but I haven't tried them nor will I be soon. Jay, Knowing that the fizzer takes a bit skinnier tires, you might want to ask Brian McCoy what sizes the Avon SuperVenoms come in. He's had great luck with them on his (ex) VF500. And they are very popular vintage racer tires, especially in Europe, so they can't be all that bad. Collin -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 07:27:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA18115; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:27:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA27920; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA06347; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:26:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-37-46.s46.tnt7.ann.erols.com [207.172.37.46]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08991; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:26:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350A77D4.AC8EA77B@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 07:28:04 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Evans CC: jaynik@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Avon Azaros falling apart References: <19980310153327120.AAC127@balingwire> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit THat's interesting to hear..Is it possible that the tire was already too worn by the time he put it on the dyno?? I ran a D204 down to nothingness once and tried one last ride on them. As soon as we hit some nice twisties, I began throwing rubber rooster tails. I've had two sets of Azarros. I ran a dyno run on the first set.. My 525 lb GSXR puts out just over 105hp (had a nasty dirty air filter for the dyno run..so it's probably a tad higher than that) with no problems on the tires. When I venture out to the back woods and mountains (US211 and US33) I often run above 10k rpm (only place gixers like to run) and I often top triple digit speeds. I also went out to MIR's dragstrip with a friend one day last summer and another guy was running them on his GSXR1100 drag bike. He had run through 3 sets of them and only had good things to say. Another guy in the office has em on a Triumph Daytona 900, and since he rides much milder than I do, his tires look like brand new after nearly 5k miles!! I'll definitely keep in this info in mind though... I didn't see Pat post anything about this on the race list, so if any updates are posted on the other lists, could you forward them this way? I was actually considering racing on the Azarros this year, but I may switch to their other race tire (although I'll be starting out on D207 GPs) Collin Andrew Evans wrote: > > This is the post that people have been referring to when they say that > Azaros fly apart. Thought you DC and Baltimore folks might be > interested. Reply to me directly if you want -- I'm not on either of > these lists. > > ------------------------- > > Date sent: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 13:45:11 -0800 > From: Patrick Burns > Organization: Factory Pro Tuning > To: "exup-brotherhood@XXXXXX" > > Subject: EXUP Avon Azaros (grumble, grumble) > Send reply to: Patrick Burns > > This is the _third_ Avon Azaro that chunked on our dyno. Was > running a ZX9, keeping the surface temp under 150 degrees F > (monitored with an infrared thermometer), had it inflated to > 45psi to reduce carcass flex and head buildup in accordance > with an Avon tech's suggestions, and it still blew chunks > all over the room on the 11k rpm step test... while the > owner watched. Thankfully, the tires were already toast and > he was planning on mounting a new set of 207 street tires > after we finished up with the jetting, so he got a kick out > of it instead of getting upset. They might be neat tires to > ride on, but I sure wouldn't mount a set on a big hp bike > that was going to be running lots of mph. > > -- > Patrick Burns > Factory Pro Tuning > patburns@XXXXXX > http://www.factorypro.com > > -- > Andrew Evans -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 08:19:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA18251; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 08:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA29324; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 08:19:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA07311; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 08:19:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27969 invoked by alias); 14 Mar 1998 13:16:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 29814 invoked from network); 13 Mar 1998 21:51:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jywon.imi?dc) (12.3.130.190) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 1998 21:51:22 -0000 Message-ID: <004801bd4eca$23926940$be82030c@jywon.imi_dc> Reply-To: "Justin Won" From: "Justin Won" To: Subject: Re: Re: moto polo Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:50:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Couldn't agree with you more! ;-) Justin -----Original Message----- From: O'Brien, Jeannette To: 'Jinn Sinn' ; mrider@XXXXXX ; Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Friday, March 13, 1998 3:06 PM Subject: RE: Re: moto polo >I personally think the guy should always be operating the stick. > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Friday, March 13, 1998 3:10 PM >> To: mrider@XXXXXX; Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX >> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: Re: Re: moto polo >> >> despite the afterthought of a disclaimer ..... I MUST ask why it's >> assumed the >> pillion is a HER ;D ............. my first pillion after all was a MAN >> heh heh >> >> Marcy >> >> In a message dated 3/13/98 2:29:11 PM, mrider@XXXXXX wrote: >> >> <> operate >> the stick and the rider put her in position to use it. (This is of >> course a co-ed sport) It would also work to have her operate the bike >> and he would stick.>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 12:59:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA21088; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02757; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:59:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA13231; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-218-202.pitb.grid.net [207.205.218.202]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA00755 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 12:59:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980314130059.006a4844@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:00:59 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" FYI from the R1100 list - >Subject: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW >Reply-To: bmw-r1100@XXXXXX >Errors-To: owner-bmw-r1100@XXXXXX >To: bmw-r1100@XXXXXX >Sender: bmw-r1100-request@XXXXXX >X-Loop: bmw-r1100@XXXXXX > >I was at Bob's BMW today and learned that BMW has a $1,500 rebate on the >F650's through the end of March. This, I was told, brings the price of the >bike down to $6,000. > >Almost makes me want to buy another bike. > > >Jon Ayscue >Baltimore > > >-- >Please send administrivia to the majordomo@XXXXXX program. >If you need to reach a human, bandy@XXXXXX is the >contact point for bmw-r1100. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 13:09:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21278; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02843; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:09:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA13491; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:09:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1YURa06379 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:08:53 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE Message-ID: <7cd3e0d3.350ac7b7@aol.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:08:53 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: not again Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 Hello all, We need a roommate - again. Two months ago, no one from this list was interested, but maybe this time... We just asked our roommate to leave. Apparently he figured that the "no smoking" rule doesn't apply to pot. We don't have a problem with occasional and discreet use by employed individuals, however this guy starts smoking when he wakes up (at noon) and continues all day. He told us he was employed, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Hm, I wonder where his rent money comes from?? Anyway, we have a room in Silver Spring available for $400/month + a third of the utilities. There is room in our garage for one more bike, but not for two. The basics: downtown Silver Spring, near Metro, near the grocery, near the discount mall (whoopie) etc. It's an older house and has hardwood floors, a fireplace, washer/dryer, basement storage space. The available bedroom is downstairs. The other downstairs bedroom is my office. There is a bathroom downstaris and one upstairs. The downstairs one isn't the main bathroom for anyone except the renter of the room. What you'd have to put up with: me: I am home a lot during the day since I work here, but I'm quiet. Lex: Mr Tolerant (he let the pot smoker move in and gave him a lot more chances than I would have). Lex works at Bob's BMW, listens to jazz most of the time, and has two kids, who are here part of the time. He plays drums, but rarely when people are home. the kids: Two boys ages 9 and 12. They are here about 10 days out of the month. They like motorcycles, airplanes, sports and video games. The little guy plays drums too, but he asks permission to make noise first. The older one is prone to starting complicated art projects and forgetting to clean up afterwards... What we don't want to have to endure: Smoking! If you are on-line at home, or regularly get late night phone calls, we would prefer that you get your own phone number. There is an unused line coming to the house. a minor perk: if you move in, you can buy your motorcycle stuff wholesale. I can order most anything except oem parts. If anyone is interested, e-mail me, or call Lex at work. His number there is 301/924-5155 x 219. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 14:19:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA21970; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:19:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03287; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:19:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14687; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA02893; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:18:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv7-06.ix.netcom.com(205.184.22.134) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma002878; Sat Mar 14 13:18:24 1998 Message-ID: <350A885E.33C5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 05:38:38 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW References: <3.0.1.32.19980314130059.006a4844@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. wrote: > > FYI from the R1100 list - > > >Subject: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW Can someone advise of any and/or all the BMW dealers in the Northern Va,DC metro area. I dont know of any in the Winch Va to Chambersburg PA area, and would not mind taking a look at one at a more reasonable price. -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 14:41:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA22255; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03377; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:41:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14889; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-218-202.pitb.grid.net [207.205.218.202]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA13722; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:41:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980314144303.006a7de8@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:43:03 -0500 To: shephar1@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <350A885E.33C5@ix.netcom.com> References: <3.0.1.32.19980314130059.006a4844@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ken, BMW motorcycles has a retailer locater on their website: http://www.bmwusacycles.com/retailers/retailers.html Of course, many of us in this area are partial to Bob's BMW in Jessup, MD, http://www.bmwbobs.com . Of course, that may be a bit out of the way for you. Harry At 05:38 AM 3/14/98 -0800, Ken S. wrote: > >Can someone advise of any and/or all the BMW dealers in the Northern >Va,DC metro area. I dont know of any in the Winch Va to Chambersburg PA >area, and would not mind taking a look at one at a more reasonable >price. > >-- > Ken S. > 1996 XLH1200 > Inwood, WV > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 14:58:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA22404; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:58:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03454; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA15190; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:58:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA05295; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:57:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv7-14.ix.netcom.com(205.184.22.142) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma005287; Sat Mar 14 13:57:44 1998 Message-ID: <350A91A0.2EC3@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 06:18:08 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW References: <3.0.1.32.19980314130059.006a4844@pop.mindspring.com> <3.0.1.32.19980314144303.006a7de8@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. wrote: > > Ken, > BMW motorcycles has a retailer locater on their website: > http://www.bmwusacycles.com/retailers/retailers.html Thanx for the info, I had tried the BMW cycles site earlier, the dealer locator page is down, all I get is an error message. no rush though, its still early in the spring. Was going to go to the MARRC cornerworkers school today, but the wife and child ar ill so am playing househusband . hehe, At least I hope to get a ride in tomorrow at Middleburg. Take care and thanx... the BMW gets added to my list of $6000.00 or so bikes to supplement the Sportster...;) -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 15:58:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22985; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03637; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA16245; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:57:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from krosenba.erols.com (207-172-73-106.s43.as2.man.erols.com [207.172.73.106]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA26733; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:57:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980314155115.007d1b70@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: krosenba@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:51:15 -0500 To: shephar1@XXXXXX, "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." From: Karl Rosenbaum Subject: Re: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <350A885E.33C5@ix.netcom.com> References: <3.0.1.32.19980314130059.006a4844@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:38 AM 03/14/1998 -0800, Ken S. wrote: >> >Subject: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW > >Can someone advise of any and/or all the BMW dealers in the Northern >Va,DC metro area. I dont know of any in the Winch Va to Chambersburg PA >area, and would not mind taking a look at one at a more reasonable >price. Morton's BMW - Spotsylvania, VA exit 126 off of '95 (540) 891-9844 http://www.mortonsbmw.com/ Bob's BMW - Jessup, MD Not sure of the exact location (just know where it is) (301) 497-8949 http://www.bmwbobs.com/ Battley Cycles - Rockville, MD Shady Grove Exit off of I-270 Hammersly's BMW- Lynchburg, VA Hmmm -been there twice - can't remember 1 800 293-4539 http://www.webparts.com/cycles/cycles.htm I personally like Morton's the best. Great People and fair deals. Would rather drive the distance to their shop. Karl Rosenbaum 94 BMW K1100 LT-A Woodbridge, VA http://www.erols.com/krosenba From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 17:53:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA24154; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:53:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA04442; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:52:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA18121; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:52:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id PZSVa09367; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:51:18 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:51:18 EST To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Cc: mrider@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: moto polo Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 I must graciously concede defeat ;D Marcy In a message dated 98-03-13 15:35:35 EST, Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX writes: << Better hand-eye coordination? Hah! Gotcha there! No chauvinists in this crowd! >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 17:57:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA24211; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA04465; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA18177; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1HOAa01472 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:56:26 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <5d5f8d17.350b0b1c@aol.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:56:26 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Daytona and beyond Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 In a message dated 98-03-13 19:08:13 EST, krosenba@XXXXXX writes: << the best one (or worst) was "see president Clinton's mother's cemetery". A lot of people capitalizing on the name. We decided to slab it to the next location >> NO PUN INTENDED I"M SURE ;D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 18:05:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA24299; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:05:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA04571; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA18273; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:05:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id FVWGa11851; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:03:49 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:03:49 EST To: cb-1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Starting Troubles Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 here's the deal .... I bought the CB-1, the guy I bought it from said it's a little finicky in the cold (fine) ..... however, the battery wouldn't stay charged no matter what so I bought a new one ..... worked great until this recent cold snap at which point my brand new battery dies and had to be resusitated via jump cables and a 45 minute ride to recharge ..... works fine again. engineer friend looked at it, said, "a brand new battery should start fine even in the cold, you should have someone look at it to make sure the alternator is charging the battery, and to make sure the electrical system isn't "leaking" when the bikes turned off" biker friend says," it's a bike. it has trouble in the cold. get a battery tender" any thoughts on who might be correct? Thanks Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 19:44:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA26284; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:44:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA05224; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA19744; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-37-46.s46.tnt7.ann.erols.com [207.172.37.46]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15924; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:43:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350B24BC.65B37F05@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:45:48 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jinn Sinn CC: cb-1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Starting Troubles References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marcy, >From a biker and an engineer :) If it's a new properly charged battery, you shouldn't be having these problems unless the bike has super high compression... and a duc 916 it ain't he he Find someone that has a hanes or clymer for the bike and check the output to the battery and the output from the alternator.. it's a quick easy check and will give you an idea of what's going on. I've got a multimeter if ya need one to check it with. Collin (bummin.. can't go out to dinner and 1720 tonight since all babysitter options crapped out) Jinn Sinn wrote: > engineer friend looked at it, said, "a brand new battery should start fine > even in the cold, you should have someone look at it to make sure the > alternator is charging the battery, and to make sure the electrical system > isn't "leaking" when the bikes turned off" > > biker friend says," it's a bike. it has trouble in the cold. get a battery > tender" -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 20:04:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA26471; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 20:04:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA05340; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 20:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA19977; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 20:04:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hp-customer (207-172-112-75.s75.tnt4.ann.erols.com [207.172.112.75]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA06547 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 20:04:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350B28AE.2CC8@erols.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 20:02:38 -0500 From: "Steven D. Smith" Reply-To: mrcrashhappy@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-DH397 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: AMA References: <3509744A.8C086620@mci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Helmet laws are not only unsupported by the evidence, they are refuted by it. Besides, how is it rational to deny all the good works because of a single wart? Biking is in more danger than you think. Witness the other motoring silliness concerning personal choices made by law abiding citizens. Would I ride without one? Not likely. Do the statistics provide compelling evidence of the "burden to society" argument? Never have. After 34 years in the saddle all over the states and two foreign countries, I can honestly say bikers deserve no less respect for their personal freedoms than anyone else. To argue otherwise is less than honest. Dale Horstman wrote: > > Alan Lapp asked: > > > > We should get the AMA involved to change the DC statue!!! That's why we > > all pay our dues, right? YOU DO BELONG TO THE AMA, RIGHT? > > > > At the risk of starting another thread war, no, I am > consciously not a member of the AMA. I'm sure they've > done a lot of good work on the behalf of motorcyclists > everywhere, but none of my money is going to fight > against the helmet laws. I won't join until they give > up that cause. > > PS: And I could use that parts discount, too! > > Dale (the Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 21:38:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA27655; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 21:38:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA06094; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 21:37:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA21618; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 21:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.77.197]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA495 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 02:37:16 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: re: starting trouble Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 21:33:34 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4fba$c11da9e0$c54d440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Marcy-- Both are probably correct. You've had the new battery for a few months and been riding regularly, right? Well, if there was something very wrong, you'd only have gotten a couple of hours to a couple of days out of it. If there was something a little wrong, it could have been just good enough until it got cold. OTOH, by coincidence, maybe you left the ignition switch in the "park" position, which leaves your taillight on, on the day it got cold, and ran down the battery. I've done it a number of times. But a voltage regulator that is beginning to go bad may cause small problems for a while before it gets bad enough that you notice it. That's my hypothesis on my VFR, which, at 30000 miles, had gotten longer than usual (for old VFRs) out of the regulator before I replaced it a couple of weeks ago. Cycles USA seems to have properly diagnosed mine and not performed any unnecessary repairs, so I'd recommend them to look it over. good luck Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 23:26:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA28748; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:26:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06558; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:26:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23446; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA12717; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:02:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:02:16 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: Jinn Sinn cc: cb-1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Starting Troubles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 14 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > engineer friend looked at it, said, "a brand new battery should start fine > even in the cold, you should have someone look at it to make sure the > alternator is charging the battery, and to make sure the electrical system > isn't "leaking" when the bikes turned off" > > biker friend says," it's a bike. it has trouble in the cold. get a battery > tender" > I agree with the Engineer - there's either a leak in the system.. or the battery is faulty (it was charged to fast when new.. or the shop didn't let the elecrrolite settle before charging). I'd put my money on a system problem though, because the prior owner knew of it. Your cheapest alternitive is the battery tender (a good purchase anyway, and they can be had for around $20). Next option is the start testing wires for 'leaks' - how many miles of wiring are on the standard bike again??... 10, or so.. Kinda a lost cause if you don't know where to start.. Best f luck.. Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 23:32:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA28807; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06596; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23494; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.51] (unverified [207.226.128.51]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:31:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: $1500 F650 Rebate from BMW Date: Sat, 14 Mar 98 23:32:42 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Like I replied on the R1100 list: if you can qualify, you can choose 0% financing for up to five years instead. ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 14 23:53:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA28967; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:53:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06693; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23810; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id AAA15361; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 00:01:13 -0500 Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 00:01:12 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: Jinn Sinn cc: dc-cycle Subject: Re: Starting Troubles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 14 Mar 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > here's the deal .... I bought the CB-1, the guy I bought it from said it's a > little finicky in the cold (fine) ..... however, the battery wouldn't stay > charged no matter what so I bought a new one ..... worked great until this > recent cold snap at which point my brand new battery dies and had to be > resusitated via jump cables and a 45 minute ride to recharge ..... works fine > again. > > engineer friend looked at it, said, "a brand new battery should start fine > even in the cold, you should have someone look at it to make sure the > alternator is charging the battery, and to make sure the electrical system > isn't "leaking" when the bikes turned off" > > biker friend says," it's a bike. it has trouble in the cold. get a battery > tender" > > any thoughts on who might be correct? Short answer: both. Your alternatives are not mutually exclusive. Your bike in good condition, with a good battery, should start without problems well below freezing. If it's not starting, something is wrong. You can fix the problem (engineer friend) or fix the symptom (biker friend). In the short term, the latter is less expensive. In the long term, it depends on what the problem is/are. --garcia "In the Olympic Games, Greeks ran races, jumped, hurled the biscuits and threw the java." ---Student Paper From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 15 01:13:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA29872; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:13:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA07299; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:12:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from radagast.wizard.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA24464; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:12:01 -0500 (EST) From: thetrick@XXXXXX Received: from nt_thetrick (tc3-s37.wizard.net [206.161.15.159]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA19269 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:12:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980314011104.009829c0@mail.wizard.net> X-Sender: thetrick@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 01:11:04 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: cx500 problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hi folks. i've been working on my cx500 and trying to get it to run properly. it starts and idles no problem, but it seems to run really rich - some black smoke at idle, lots when accelerating, and once its warm it produces some healthy flame-throwing backfires upon deceleration! when i try to rev it up, it tends to bog down a lot of the time, even stall. background: the bike had been sitting for a while before i bought it last month (nor am i currently riding it). i put in new plugs last weekend and did a valve adjustment today, both of which helped some, thought the plugs had a nice coat of soot on them almost instantly. there is spark at both plugs (i don't know about strength of the spark or proper timing). i put some carb cleaner in the gas today, and i am using 93 octane gas. i suspect the carbs. should i take them off and have them cleaned (i don't really have the space or equipment to do it myself)? could it be anything else, such as the ignition? could the bike miraculously fix itself after being run for a while? :o) any idea on how much a cleaning or rebuild would cost me? thanks in advance. Tom From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 15 01:31:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA00006; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:31:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA07362; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:30:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA24603; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:30:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.76.134]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA20401; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 06:30:00 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: , Subject: Re: cx500 problems Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:26:18 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd4fdb$443b21c0$864c440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sounds like carbs. If it wasn't so bad, I'd say try riding it for a week and see if something clears out. As it is, you'll wash down the cylinders with gas, removing the oil, and do serious damage. Have the carbs cleaned. If you're up to pulling the bowls, see if there's obvious gunk there you can remove with carb spray. Spray some into the jets. Then work the floats and needles up and down a few times, reassemble and see if you did any good. Good luck Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 15 02:24:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA00283; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 02:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA07520; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 02:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA25372; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 02:24:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id CAA21005 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 02:02:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 02:02:14 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: Re: cx500 problems In-Reply-To: <01bd4fdb$443b21c0$864c440c@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 15 Mar 1998, kevin thomas wrote: > Sounds like carbs. I concure with Kevin.. sounds like the carbs. Cleaning them isn't a problem (no space?) - they fit nicely on a TV-tray. But then again, I get some perverse satasfaction from working on my own vehicles. Some of the other things you're describing (the backfire, etc) - makes it sound as if you're running lean - but it could be directly related to the cleanliness of the carbs. When you do get those cleaned (I'll do it for you for $50) and reinstalled, make sure you clean off the spark plugs before restarting. I suspect that'll take care of most of the running problems though. Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 15 08:37:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA01891; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:37:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA08544; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:36:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA28278; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:36:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-37-46.s46.tnt7.ann.erols.com [207.172.37.46]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22262 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:36:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350BD9F9.457AD3AB@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:39:05 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Ridin Today Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I finally managed to find a way out to ride today...Seems like most of ya are doing the Arlington area ride, but alas, those rodes are nice, but too near the urban areas for my taste... So I'm heading out west with Anita and all the others.... Could any of ya'll others be persuaded to join us?? I know, I know... DONUTS are better than some stinkin Exxon :) he he he Call me if anyone wants to ride out west to the meeting spot -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 15 08:39:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA01898; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:39:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA08553; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA28282; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:39:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA00519; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:38:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv1-24.ix.netcom.com(205.184.22.56) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma000510; Sun Mar 15 07:38:22 1998 Message-ID: <350B8135.1C7B@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 23:20:21 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: Re: Westerly Sunday Ride References: <199803111709.MAA22436@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anita Lauro wrote: > > Okay, here's the scoop for those wanting to head west on Sunday -- > > We'll be following Trip #11 "Mosby's Confederacy" from Dale Coyner's book, > but starting from Middleburg rather than Front Royal. The plan is to meet > at the Exxon in Middleburg, hitting the road at 11 am or so. > Anita Anita, everyone, just a bit from the west, its currently 32 degrrees and there are some light snow showers but radar, and sattelite indicate these should be passing very soon. It will only get into the 40s out this way, so dress warm, but it looks like a great day to ride with the sun peaking out between snow showers. There is none on the ground. Seee you all in a couple hours. -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 15 14:19:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03834; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA13307; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA01911; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.41] (unverified [207.226.128.41]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:18:34 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: CX 500 web page Date: Sun, 15 Mar 98 14:19:52 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" http://www.pangea.ca/~bsmith/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 15 15:31:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04421; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14033; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.emeraldcoast.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03299; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.49.47.131] by www.destin.net (NTMail 3.03.0014/7.aaik) with ESMTP id va043233 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:39:57 -0600 Message-ID: <05bc01bd5050$b20af430$832f31cc@saturn.onyxgroup.com> Reply-To: "Pete Slatcoff" From: "Pete Slatcoff" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Saturday - Sunday Ride................... 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------=_NextPart_000_05B9_01BD501E.673E2990-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 15 18:11:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA06101; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:11:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA16728; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from u1.farm.idt.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA06004; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ajclark.ios.com (ppp-11.ts-3.dc.idt.net [169.132.20.11]) by u1.farm.idt.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA15455 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:11:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:11:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803152311.SAA15455@u1.farm.idt.net> X-Sender: ajclark@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Allan Clark Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 15 19:25:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA06704; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:25:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA17050; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:25:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA06955; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:25:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21400 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:24:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07898 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:24:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803160024.TAA07898@shell.clark.net> Subject: Horses vs. Iron Horses To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:24:57 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Today I went on a ride with the Concours Owners Group, starting in Annapolis and wandering around the Delmarva penninsula with 12 Concours. This is a very agricultural based area, meaning there were a lot of farms. We passed several fields with horses. Most of them just ignored us, but a few got very upset and ran away from the road. But there was one poor horse who was penned in a small encloser. When we went by, he just kept running around in circles, but never seemed to get away from us. (and those of you who have ridden with me know the Concours is not a loud bike) Because it was windy and we were riding through some flat land, there were places where we were riding leaned over for a while. But it wasn't as bad as Saturday. I went to Front Royal to get some information. While on 66, there were some wind gusts so strong that at one point I was blown over into the next lane (I was making sure that I wasn't next to any cars when I was in windy portions, thank goodness). How were the other two rides today? Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 15 20:16:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA07145; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:16:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA17629; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA08299; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:16:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1OMZa28612 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:15:26 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9 Message-ID: <583236a6.350c7d31@aol.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 20:15:26 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: cbr 600 f2 + sitting all winter = starting problems Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Heres the deal, I just bought a 93 600 f2, its a nice bike, but, I havent even got it to run yet. Today we drained the tank, put fresh 94 in it and tried juicing it up with some starter fluid... no luck. It roared a couple times, then gave up.. mostly just alot of backfire. we tried to change the plugs, and well... we got then loose, but we didnt have small enough fingers to pull them out.. so thats tomorrows game plan. so anyway, we tried draining the carbs too, but when we opened the valve, nothing came out.. hmm.. got me. Anyway, anyone wanna help me out? I mean, with info.. let me know... I appreciate it. Sean G. Petr Annapolis, MD From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 15 21:14:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA07661; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA17775; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA09519; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:14:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.46] (unverified [207.226.128.46]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:13:24 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: cbr 600 f2 + sitting all winter = starting problems Date: Sun, 15 Mar 98 21:14:41 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "CloudsAbv9" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > so anyway, we tried draining the carbs too, but when we opened the valve, >nothing came out.. hmm.. got me. Anyway, anyone wanna help me out? I mean, >with info.. let me know... I appreciate it. If it had gas in it, it might have turned to varnish in the carbs. Or the petcock. The only way I know to fix this (without a major hassle) is tons and tons of carb cleaner. Spray through jets and petcock. Of course, some might recommend pulling carbs, dismantling, etc, etc... But my method is easier. Just be careful smoking around the carb cleaner:) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 15 21:25:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA07740; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:25:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA17823; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:24:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA09950; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:24:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.66.65]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA6766 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:24:17 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: cbr 600 f2 + sitting all winter = starting problems Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:20:40 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd5082$1d6571c0$4142440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sean-- Check for flow thru the petcock, filter, and pump (if so equipped). You can start by pulling the fuel line off the carb inlet and turning the key or the starter. If you get fuel, all the above are probably ok. Then pull the bowls off, see if the needles move freely, probably remove and clean them and their holes. Try starting the bike again. Good luck Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 15 21:51:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA08218; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA17922; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA11299; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-37-46.s46.tnt7.ann.erols.com [207.172.37.46]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21204; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:51:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350C9439.9532E6C8@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 21:53:45 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Louis F. Caplan" CC: DC-Cycles List Subject: Re: Horses vs. Iron Horses References: <199803160024.TAA07898@shell.clark.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Louis F. Caplan wrote: > How were the other two rides today? > Fantabulous!!! Then again, I hadn't been on a bike in a while, so any riding would have been so. Group of 11 of us headed west and meandered all over. Someone else can provide all the details.. I'm sleepy and headin to bed :) CT -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 15 23:55:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA09427; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA18708; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA13191; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:55:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA20284; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:51:00 -0500 Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:35:32 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Oi? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well?Sat,14 Mar 98,2330hrs.I was present and accounted for at the 1720 club and waiting for the rest of the unit to be in position for the assault.Noone showed.I was forced to go on with the mission solo. :-P Thhpppbbbtttt. You all missed a good time.It was nice to know that being away from Vicky's for awhile,I was still capable of guessing bra sizes with at least 90% accuracy.And you girls wouldn't have looked out of place either.There were at least 6 couples there. A couple of the women were even giving the dancers tips. So what did you guys do? The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 00:24:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA10242; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:24:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA19343; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:23:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA13643; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA20557; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:19:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:15:35 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: 3 bikes -Reply To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Tom Zell wrote: > I would ride my VFR to work everyday(so long as it's not raining) but > because of the "dress code" we have here at the office I can't. I don't > like to carry a suit and tie w/all the trimmings in a bag anyway... > kinda defeats the purpose of looking professional when everything is > wrinkled beyond use. A few years back,_Motorcyclist_ did a review on a product that was a garment bag/backpack designed for motorcycle use.They thought pretty highly of it.Can't remember the company name,but maybe someone else remembers the article? The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 00:26:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA10253; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:26:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA19366; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA13682; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:26:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id AAA00472 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:17:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:17:49 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Oi? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You da man Gil... wish I coulda joined, but, you know, like work and stuff to pay the bills.. and hopefully another bike soon.. I'm supprised though, with all the hipe, I woulda suspected a good dozen ppl there... (from D.C.-cycles) On Sun, 15 Mar 1998, Gil M. Nissley wrote: > > Well?Sat,14 Mar 98,2330hrs.I was present and accounted for at the > 1720 club and waiting for the rest of the unit to be in position for > the assault.Noone showed.I was forced to go on with the mission solo. > :-P Thhpppbbbtttt. You all missed a good time.It was nice to know > that being away from Vicky's for awhile,I was still capable of > guessing bra sizes with at least 90% accuracy.And you girls wouldn't > have looked out of place either.There were at least 6 couples there. > A couple of the women were even giving the dancers tips. > So what did you guys do? > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT > > Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" > > > Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 00:31:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA10285; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA19425; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA13729; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:30:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA20594; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:26:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:20:04 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Dunlop D 204 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <350A7555.2F3789FA@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 14 Mar 1998, Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) wrote: > Gill, Gil.One 'ell'. > The GP compound sticks a little (very little) better than the street > compound, but its slides are less predictable. Moot point for me since I'm not quite looney enough to slide my tires on the street.I'll leave that to you. ;-) > Supposedly the new D207 in street compound is supposed to last fairly > well and ride pretty good, but I haven't tried them nor will I be soon. The one review I read,the tester said the only bike that he didn't like the 207's on was the Buell testbike.Think I'll stick with the 204's.'Sides,I'm plenty happy with the way they handle wet/grooved surfaces and I'm getting 7.5k+ out of mine. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 00:36:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA10310; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:36:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA19484; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:36:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA13781; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:36:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA20621; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:31:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:28:22 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Oi? To: Brian McCoy cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Brian McCoy wrote: > You da man Gil... wish I coulda joined, but, you know, like work and stuff > to pay the bills.. and hopefully another bike soon.. > I'm supprised though, with all the hipe, I woulda suspected a good dozen > ppl there... (from D.C.-cycles) I was miffed 'cause this was the first Sat night I've had off at both jobs in like 2 months.And with the bike dead,I haven't seen any listers since the Xmas party. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 01:40:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA10943; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA20657; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA14745; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:40:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA23987; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from leon-at-home (cust007.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.7]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA15544 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:40:34 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980316064538.00687760@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:45:38 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Saturday - Sunday Ride................... At 14:26 15-03-98 -0600, Bubba wrote: >Hey people we went on our Saturday and Sunday ride here in Destin, Florida this >week end. I didn't get a chance to ride this weekend, :-( but I heard others did. What's a guy from Florida doing on the DC list? Any chance you'll make it up here to ride with us? >The weather was in the hi 60's and low 70's. That's too bad, ;-) no problems with getting overheated here. Saturday was rather hot at around 60, but Sunday was sunny and high 40's. >The beaches were crowded for spring break and MTV was setting up. Again, no problem with that here. I didn't make it to the beach, but I'd bet that it wasn't crowded at all. >If the weather won't accommodate you in the "DC area" then y'all come down here an ride. We promote the southern hospitality ride here in Destin................. Sorry I couldn't make it to see you when I was in FL, but with the sick motor, I didn't do much riding. Most of the above is humor. . . I like to ride, anywhere. Leon Begeman (703) 590-9073 13391 Packard Dr., Dale City, VA 22193 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 01:52:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA11020; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:52:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA21035; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:52:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA14878; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:52:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA24031; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:52:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from leon-at-home (cust007.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.7]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA15763; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:52:47 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980316015749.00687410@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:57:49 +0000 To: CloudsAbv9 , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: cbr 600 f2 + sitting all winter = starting problems 1. The float won't open the valve and let fuel into the carb - clean it. 2. The drain is plugged with residue (but then the bike would be getting fuel and would probably run) - clean it. Water in the fuel would cause that amount of corrosion. The fuel tank should also be cleaned if this is the case. Leon.0 At 20:15 15-03-98 EST, CloudsAbv9 wrote: >Heres the deal, I just bought a 93 600 f2, its a nice bike, but, I havent even >got it to run yet. Today we drained the tank, put fresh 94 in it and tried >juicing it up with some starter fluid... no luck. It roared a couple times, >then gave up.. mostly just alot of backfire. we tried to change the plugs, >and well... we got then loose, but we didnt have small enough fingers to pull >them out.. so thats tomorrows game plan. > so anyway, we tried draining the carbs too, but when we opened the valve, >nothing came out.. hmm.. got me. Anyway, anyone wanna help me out? I mean, >with info.. let me know... I appreciate it. > >Sean G. Petr >Annapolis, MD > > Leon Begeman (703) 590-9073 13391 Packard Dr., Dale City, VA 22193 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 06:22:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA12966; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:22:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA22760; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA17713; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-37-46.s46.tnt7.ann.erols.com [207.172.37.46]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19074; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:21:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350D0BE1.AB0ED2F8@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:24:17 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gil M. Nissley" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Oi? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, We really really really wanted to go, but our normal weekend babysitter (that we've used all of twice) pissed off her parents and wasn't allowed to babysit. Then we proceeded to call anyone we could think of that might watch the 2 foot terror for us to no avail..... Hopefully next time...... CT Gil M. Nissley wrote: > So what did you guys do? -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 06:56:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA13184; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:56:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA24070; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:56:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA17965; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11979; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:56:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA01216; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:56:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803161156.GAA01216@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: Oi? To: gnissley@XXXXXX (Gil M. Nissley" ) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 06:56:30 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: from "Gil M. Nissley" " at Mar 15, 98 11:35:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Well?Sat,14 Mar 98,2330hrs.I was present and accounted for at the > 1720 club and waiting for the rest of the unit to be in position for > the assault.Noone showed.I was forced to go on with the mission solo. > So what did you guys do? I was there from 10:30 to 11:30. After not seeing anyone, I gave up and went home. Must have just missed you. They certainly seem to be doing better than the last time I was there. I was standing the whole time, being bumped every which way. And when I tried to go upstairs, the guy practically shoved me back down. Take it easy man! Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 07:05:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA13272; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA24415; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:05:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from enterprise.reliacom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA18089; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by enterprise.reliacom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:05:06 -0000 Message-ID: <1FEC5DA89BADD1118007006008A591101BE3@enterprise.reliacom.com> From: Scot Kight To: "'CloudsAbv9 '" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: RE: cbr 600 f2 + sitting all winter = starting problems Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:05:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain If the 600f2 has a carb prime setting, try doing that. Otherwise it could be a number of things, but if there is NO fuel coming out of the carbs I would personally think something is stuck in the fuel filter. But you said it did start a little bit. Sounds to me like a number of problems. A: Weak battery, could be draining the systems including the fuel pump. B: Dirty/varnished carbs. The only real way is to pull the carbs unfortunately, but you dont HAVE to do that. Just pull the gas intake and spray liberally in there. C: Clogged fuel filter. Replace D: Bad fuel pump. Replace. E: Bad spark plugs. replace. F: Some other problem :> I would definitly invest in carb cleaner and spray the hell out of everything. Stay away from starter fluid unless ABSOLUTELY needed. If you can, pull the carbs. even if it isnt completely gummed, its probably somewhat gummed and pulling the carbs wont hurt. I dont know how difficult it is on your bike -----Original Message----- From: CloudsAbv9 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sent: 3/16/98 1:15 AM Subject: cbr 600 f2 + sitting all winter = starting problems Heres the deal, I just bought a 93 600 f2, its a nice bike, but, I havent even got it to run yet. Today we drained the tank, put fresh 94 in it and tried juicing it up with some starter fluid... no luck. It roared a couple times, then gave up.. mostly just alot of backfire. we tried to change the plugs, and well... we got then loose, but we didnt have small enough fingers to pull them out.. so thats tomorrows game plan. so anyway, we tried draining the carbs too, but when we opened the valve, nothing came out.. hmm.. got me. Anyway, anyone wanna help me out? I mean, with info.. let me know... I appreciate it. Sean G. Petr Annapolis, MD From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 08:00:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA13547; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA26032; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:00:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA18611; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:00:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com ([209.49.109.130]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA29986 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:00:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980316080200.0069b610@pop.mindspring.com> Received: from [172.16.4.56] by firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com via smtpd (for ftp.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) with SMTP; 16 Mar 1998 13:00:15 UT X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:02:00 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: FYI: Binary bikers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I came across this today. Although the site is pretty thin, the concept is interesting. Quoted from : http://www.binary-biker.org "In July of 1998, a motorcycle convoy led by two specially-rigged motorcycles and support vehicle will depart from the campuses of Pratt Institute and the School of Visual Arts in New York City, and undertake an event-filled journey to SIGGRAPH '98 in Orlando, where the digitized journey will be a part of this internationally-renowned computer art conference. These "binary bikers" will be accompanied by an entourage of invited artists/motorcyclists from the worlds of art, technology, education and motorcycling. Many of these groups and individuals will join up with the travelling entourage at key stops along the route, some of which will involve specially scheduled events. The lead vehicles and binary bikers will be equipped with live audio and video set up to transmit continuous two-way real-time sound and pictures via satellite or cellular connection to a central web server at Pratt Institute. This web site (binary-biker.org) will be the focal point for the Binary Biker project. Remote participants will be able to log in and "ride along" as "virtual bikers" on this extraordinary journey. They will be able to see and hear what the binary bikers see and hear. They will be able to monitor the progress of the route via a global positioning system readout, and will be able to monitor the speed, mileage and other vital statistics by way of a "virtual instrument panel." In addition, a limited number of web participants will be able to sign up in advance for direct, real-time two-way conversations with the binary bikers, for limited time periods. These virtual bikers will directly participate in the ride, contributing to on-road discussions, and perhaps even suggesting route changes and roadside stops. The virtual bikers may also request the Binary Bikers to move the cameras and the motorcycles in order to scan, select and capture exactly the images they want. The support vehicle will also be equipped with a motorized rig which will be remotely controllable by a virtual biker via the web site. While this journey is underway, still and moving images will be captured by both the binary bikers as well as the virtual bikers via the web site and digitally stored on the web server in an online "image pool" for common access by all participants. Artists will be invited to participate, capture, download and access these images via the website, use them to create their own original imagery, and upload them to an online "submission pool" for subsequent judging. The winning selections will be placed in an online Binary Biker gallery" and a limited number will be selected and uploaded to the SIGGRAPH 98 "Guerrilla Gallery," where they will be output to color imaging devices, framed and exhibited in a "Binary Biker" venue at the conference. While this journey is underway, still and moving images will be captured by both the binary bikers as well as the virtual bikers via the web site and digitally stored on the web server in an online "image pool" for common access by all participants. Artists will be invited to participate, capture, download and access these images via the website, use them to create their own original imagery, and upload them to an online "submission pool" for subsequent judging. The winning selections will be placed in an online Binary Biker gallery" and a limited number will be selected and uploaded to the SIGGRAPH 98 "Guerrilla Gallery," where they will be output to color imaging devices, framed and exhibited in a "Binary Biker" venue at the conference. In addition to the the physical art gallery, the Binary Biker exhibition area will contain several workstations offering access to the Binary Biker web site, as well as computer graphics software and hardware tools to enable artists to create original works on-site and upload them to the SIGGRAPH 98 Guerrilla Gallery. When the Binary Biker convoy arrives at the SIGGRAPH 98 site, a motorcycle rally /SIGGRAPH reception will greet its arrival, and the lead vehicles will be brought into the facility and made a central part of the Binary Biker exhibit. They will be securely fixed and positioned to face a large projection screen where key parts of the journey will be shown from the perspective of the lead riders. Attendees will be invited to sit atop these stationary vehicles and view the recently- completed journey from the perspective of the actual riders. Highlights of this unusual journey will be recorded and an edited version will be created for subsequent presentation and distribution. Thusfar, those offering their support and sponsorship for the Binary Biker project include Pratt Institute, School of Visual Arts, New York City ACM/SIGGRAPH, Hitachi Home Electronics, NetPower Inc., Cyberbulles (France), Intelsat, and the list is rapidly expanding." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 08:33:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA13882; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA26211; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19041; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:33:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA01696 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:32:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:32:29 -0500 (EST) From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: I missed 1729/MC accident Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, I was going to just e-mail Jeanette, but decided to tell you all why Mark and I missed you all on Saturday. Friday afternoon, Mark and I took the afternoon off with a couple of plans. We were going to attend my son's Art Show at Chantilly High School, then go on to Herndon Cycle Sport and pick up my bike. We did this, and I suited up and picked up the bike. I had a lot of work done to it, including new tires and a tune up and having the brake fluid replaced. I turned right onto Elden Street out of HCS, and at the first light, thought the brakes felt funny. Specifically, I thought I was doing a lot of rear wheel braking. So I tested them a little on the second light. Sure enough they were not gripping very well. So at the third light, I pulled into the parking lot of the Marriot Suites hotel. Mark was following me in our car, and pulled off with me. He asked me what was wrong, and I told him. He said (here is the fatal lack of judgement) "Let me see." Now we had planned to pick up my bike, so who is it who is completely outfitted for riding. Right, me. Who is not wearing any protection, except his jacket? Right, Mark. No helmet. Of course he is not going to go more than 10 or 15 MPH. (Actually he was only doing 5 or so. He got on the bike, and sure enough the brakes were not working very well. Then SUDDENLY they were. As he was bearing slightly right into a parking space. The bike high sided, and he hit gravel. Even that slow, he was pretty badly hurt. In addition to a lot of bruising, he broke his collarbone and rib, and had a concussion. The concussion has passed, but he is in a lot of pain. He's not really supposed to go to work this week, but of course he has. Anyway. That's our excuse. Get together again in three or four weeks and we'll meet you, though riding may have to wait. Lost the windshield, and a turn signal stalk, and there is some crookedness in the handlebars. Also, my brother Phil, who rode the bike back to Cycle Sport with me, reports that the bike won't go above 2nd gear. So it's back in the shop, and they better look at the brakes really close. Anyone know what could cause that behavior in the brakes? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 08:41:31 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA14111; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:41:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA26285; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:41:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19401; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:41:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id ABF26840280; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:41:06 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980316082505.00f94480@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:25:05 -0500 To: Todd Peer From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: AMA Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <19980313195934.UZKP27632@[166.41.242.141]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:57 PM 3/13/98 -0500, Todd Peer wrote: > MD Abate has been set back again in the federal appeals court. >Federal appeals ruled that even though MD failed to provide a list of >approved helmets (though the law is written that they would), MD recieves >federal funding for roadways and is subject to the mandate of our ever >watchful big brother. > > I have mixed feelings on this. First, I think Mike (?lastname) >from Abate, should have figured this would happen if they went to a >FEDERAL COURT!!! I'm shaking my head. Second, it just pisses me off >that MD would allow this to happen as well. Like a couple of children >asking Uncle Sam to settle their dispute, and Uncle Sam has no interest >in either sides case. Uncle Sam has Uncle Sams interests in mind. Mike Lewis. A real good guy, you'd like him. We lobbied together to save the Maryland rider education program, and at Mike's invite I gave some presentations to the local ABATE about our rider courses (particularly the experienced course). Mike gave me the best argument I've ever heard to allow people to choose not to wear a helmet-- he drew a parallel between an adult declining medical care, and an adult declining to wear protective gear. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 08:41:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA14116; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:41:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA26291; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19405; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:41:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id ABF36840280; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:41:07 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980316084128.00f96a80@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:41:28 -0500 To: Jinn Sinn , cb-1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Starting Troubles In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As an engineer and a biker, I agree with both of your friends! Seriously, a brand new battery should perform just fine. If it's dying like that then either the charging system isn't, or there's a leak that's draining the battery. Check your charging system first. Chris Norloff ******************************************** At 06:03 PM 3/14/98 EST, Jinn Sinn wrote: >here's the deal .... I bought the CB-1, the guy I bought it from said it's a >little finicky in the cold (fine) ..... however, the battery wouldn't stay >charged no matter what so I bought a new one ..... worked great until this >recent cold snap at which point my brand new battery dies and had to be >resusitated via jump cables and a 45 minute ride to recharge ..... works fine >again. > >engineer friend looked at it, said, "a brand new battery should start fine >even in the cold, you should have someone look at it to make sure the >alternator is charging the battery, and to make sure the electrical system >isn't "leaking" when the bikes turned off" > >biker friend says," it's a bike. it has trouble in the cold. get a battery >tender" > >any thoughts on who might be correct? >Thanks >Marcy > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 09:06:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA14340; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:06:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27355; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20013; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:05:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (port27.annex1.radix.net [209.48.225.27]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA04864; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:05:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350D5B2D.14E8@radix.net> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:02:37 -0800 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Howell CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DRG Cycles References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<>> George>>> Funny how life comes around. In one hour, I will be at GRD cycles as an independant contractor, getting paid beans, just to have something to do before my next endeavor. I will make my own assessment of any motorcycle in his inventory, just ask. Then, of course, you must make your own assessment of my integrity. References provided, on request. ;-) I'll get back to you on the CBR600 this evening. Richard ps, The owner, Glynn Davis, was Coleman PowerSport's senior service manager for about 20 years, and the best analytical technician I (and the rest of the crew) have ever seen. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 09:17:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA14445; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27610; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20290; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from MARKSOMM@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1JPJa14707 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:16:15 -0500 (EST) From: MARKSOMM Message-ID: <153a2a23.350d3432@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:16:15 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: I missed 1729/MC accident Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 In a message dated 98-03-16 08:38:38 EST, you write: << Anyone know what could cause that behavior in the brakes? >> They probably took off the rear brake to change the rear wheel. When it is put back on, fluid needs to be pumped back into the brake caliper to get the pads close enough to the rotor to grip. You do that by pumping the brake pedal. Obviously the shop didn't. When you used the brake repeatedly you did. When the caliper got enough fluid to get the pads onto the rotor it began to work properly. There's probably nothing wrong with your brakes now. If it won't shift you may have bent the shift lever. Get the shop to cover it. That is a very basic mistake that they shouldn't have made. Mark Sommerfield From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 09:22:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA14510; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27694; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:22:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from enterprise.reliacom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20407; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:22:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by enterprise.reliacom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:21:51 -0000 Message-ID: <1FEC5DA89BADD1118007006008A591101BE6@enterprise.reliacom.com> From: Scot Kight To: "'Julie and/or Mark Holm '" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: RE: I missed 1729/MC accident Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:21:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain I dunno about you, but to me that sounds like lawsuit. They better at least test the bike before giving it back to the owners, especially after working on the brakes. and no, I cant think of ANYTHING which could cause that behavior.... unless they didnt put the rear brake on its mount properly.. I am glad you werent on the street when this happened, though it should NEVER have happened :< Heal quickly!!! > Well, I was going to just e-mail Jeanette, but decided to tell you all why Mark and I missed you all on Saturday. Friday afternoon, Mark and I took the afternoon off with a couple of plans. We were going to attend my son's Art Show at Chantilly High School, then go on to Herndon Cycle Sport and pick up my bike. We did this, and I suited up and picked up the bike. I had a lot of work done to it, including new tires and a tune up and having the brake fluid replaced. I turned right onto Elden Street out of HCS, and at the first light, thought the brakes felt funny. Specifically, I thought I was doing a lot of rear wheel braking. So I tested them a little on the second light. Sure enough they were not gripping very well. So at the third light, I pulled into the parking lot of the Marriot Suites hotel. Mark was following me in our car, and pulled off with me. He asked me what was wrong, and I told him. He said (here is the fatal lack of judgement) "Let me see." Now we had planned to pick up my bike, so who is it who is completely outfitted for riding. Right, me. Who is not wearing any protection, except his jacket? Right, Mark. No helmet. Of course he is not going to go more than 10 or 15 MPH. (Actually he was only doing 5 or so. He got on the bike, and sure enough the brakes were not working very well. Then SUDDENLY they were. As he was bearing slightly right into a parking space. The bike high sided, and he hit gravel. Even that slow, he was pretty badly hurt. In addition to a lot of bruising, he broke his collarbone and rib, and had a concussion. The concussion has passed, but he is in a lot of pain. He's not really supposed to go to work this week, but of course he has. Anyway. That's our excuse. Get together again in three or four weeks and we'll meet you, though riding may have to wait. Lost the windshield, and a turn signal stalk, and there is some crookedness in the handlebars. Also, my brother Phil, who rode the bike back to Cycle Sport with me, reports that the bike won't go above 2nd gear. So it's back in the shop, and they better look at the brakes really close. Anyone know what could cause that behavior in the brakes? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 09:26:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA14571; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:26:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27764; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:26:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20464; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:26:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA04561; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:25:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:25:51 -0500 (EST) From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: Scot Kight cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: RE: I missed 1729/MC accident In-Reply-To: <1FEC5DA89BADD1118007006008A591101BE6@enterprise.reliacom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, we're certainly going to wait and see. Herndon Cycle Sport has done all our work for years, and they have been very good. I want to know what went wrong. All I had done was the brake fluid replacement, but I've never had work on the brakes done, so if there is something else going on, unrelated to the brake fluid, we may be able to understand it. We'll see how they respond to this. On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Scot Kight wrote: > I dunno about you, but to me that sounds like lawsuit. They better at > least test the bike before giving it back to the owners, especially > after working on the brakes. and no, I cant think of ANYTHING which > could cause that behavior.... unless they didnt put the rear brake on > its mount properly.. > > I am glad you werent on the street when this happened, though it should > NEVER have happened :< > > Heal quickly!!! > > > > > Well, I was going to just e-mail Jeanette, but decided to tell you all > why > Mark and I missed you all on Saturday. > > Friday afternoon, Mark and I took the afternoon off with a couple of > plans. We were going to attend my son's Art Show at Chantilly High > School, then go on to Herndon Cycle Sport and pick up my bike. > > We did this, and I suited up and picked up the bike. I had a lot of > work > done to it, including new tires and a tune up and having the brake fluid > replaced. > > I turned right onto Elden Street out of HCS, and at the first light, > thought the brakes felt funny. Specifically, I thought I was doing a > lot > of rear wheel braking. So I tested them a little on the second light. > Sure enough they were not gripping very well. So at the third light, I > pulled into the parking lot of the Marriot Suites hotel. > > Mark was following me in our car, and pulled off with me. > > He asked me what was wrong, and I told him. > > He said (here is the fatal lack of judgement) "Let me see." > > Now we had planned to pick up my bike, so who is it who is completely > outfitted for riding. Right, me. Who is not wearing any protection, > except his jacket? Right, Mark. No helmet. > > Of course he is not going to go more than 10 or 15 MPH. (Actually he > was > only doing 5 or so. > > He got on the bike, and sure enough the brakes were not working very > well. > Then SUDDENLY they were. As he was bearing slightly right into a > parking > space. The bike high sided, and he hit gravel. > > Even that slow, he was pretty badly hurt. In addition to a lot of > bruising, he broke his collarbone and rib, and had a concussion. The > concussion has passed, but he is in a lot of pain. He's not really > supposed to go to work this week, but of course he has. > > Anyway. That's our excuse. Get together again in three or four weeks > and > we'll meet you, though riding may have to wait. > > Lost the windshield, and a turn signal stalk, and there is some > crookedness in the handlebars. Also, my brother Phil, who rode the bike > back to Cycle Sport with me, reports that the bike won't go above 2nd > gear. > > So it's back in the shop, and they better look at the brakes really > close. > > Anyone know what could cause that behavior in the brakes? > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 09:29:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA14600; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:29:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27834; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:29:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from lms03.us.ibm.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20576; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:29:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by lms03.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA46716; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:19:40 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms01.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.193]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA45842; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:26:19 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU003 id 5040100016208323; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:32:07 -0500 From: Tom Knapik To: Cc: Subject: Re: I missed 1729/MC accident Message-ID: <5040100016208323000002L032*@MHS> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:32:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry to hear this. Hope Mark heals really fast. It almost sounds like grease on the brakes doesn't it? Makes ya wonder who at Herndon Cycle did the test ride after they worked on it. Regards, Tom Knapik E-mail: knapik@XXXXXX Phone: (301) 803-2417, tie-262-2417 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 09:34:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA14666; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:34:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27928; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:34:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20687; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:33:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA16249; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:33:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:32:59 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA27@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Julie and/or Mark Holm'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: I missed 1720/MC accident Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:33:24 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain God, I'm SO SORRY! I hope he heals quickly and wish him my best. Tom & I didn't make it, either because basically all the people we were heading up there with cancelled out - all 7 of them!! ARG. I was SO TIRED, anyway, & wanted to make the Sunday ride, so it was probably best we didn't go. Next time... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Julie and/or Mark Holm [SMTP:holm@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 8:32 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: I missed 1729/MC accident > > Well, I was going to just e-mail Jeanette, but decided to tell you all > why > Mark and I missed you all on Saturday. > > Friday afternoon, Mark and I took the afternoon off with a couple of > plans. We were going to attend my son's Art Show at Chantilly High > School, then go on to Herndon Cycle Sport and pick up my bike. > > We did this, and I suited up and picked up the bike. I had a lot of > work > done to it, including new tires and a tune up and having the brake > fluid > replaced. > > I turned right onto Elden Street out of HCS, and at the first light, > thought the brakes felt funny. Specifically, I thought I was doing a > lot > of rear wheel braking. So I tested them a little on the second light. > Sure enough they were not gripping very well. So at the third light, > I > pulled into the parking lot of the Marriot Suites hotel. > > Mark was following me in our car, and pulled off with me. > > He asked me what was wrong, and I told him. > > He said (here is the fatal lack of judgement) "Let me see." > > Now we had planned to pick up my bike, so who is it who is completely > outfitted for riding. Right, me. Who is not wearing any protection, > except his jacket? Right, Mark. No helmet. > > Of course he is not going to go more than 10 or 15 MPH. (Actually he > was > only doing 5 or so. > > He got on the bike, and sure enough the brakes were not working very > well. > Then SUDDENLY they were. As he was bearing slightly right into a > parking > space. The bike high sided, and he hit gravel. > > Even that slow, he was pretty badly hurt. In addition to a lot of > bruising, he broke his collarbone and rib, and had a concussion. The > concussion has passed, but he is in a lot of pain. He's not really > supposed to go to work this week, but of course he has. > > Anyway. That's our excuse. Get together again in three or four weeks > and > we'll meet you, though riding may have to wait. > > Lost the windshield, and a turn signal stalk, and there is some > crookedness in the handlebars. Also, my brother Phil, who rode the > bike > back to Cycle Sport with me, reports that the bike won't go above 2nd > gear. > > So it's back in the shop, and they better look at the brakes really > close. > > Anyone know what could cause that behavior in the brakes? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 09:35:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA14675; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27986; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20743; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:35:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id IAA29690; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:34:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA05902; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:34:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980316143440.HJDG4928@[166.41.242.141]>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:34:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:21 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: "Gil M. Nissley" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Oi? X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980316143440.HJDG4928@[166.41.242.141]> My ONLY excuse for not showing is/was that the MARRC training went way over it's scheduled time limit, and I was too tired to deal with anything else. Glad you were able to, um handle the situation(s) by yourself though. Todd Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 23:35:32 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Oi? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: Well?Sat,14 Mar 98,2330hrs.I was present and accounted for at the 1720 club and waiting for the rest of the unit to be in position for the assault.Noone showed.I was forced to go on with the mission solo. :-P Thhpppbbbtttt. You all missed a good time.It was nice to know that being away from Vicky's for awhile,I was still capable of guessing bra sizes with at least 90% accuracy.And you girls wouldn't have looked out of place either.There were at least 6 couples there. A couple of the women were even giving the dancers tips. So what did you guys do? The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 09:46:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA14844; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28532; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:46:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21154; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:46:04 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:48:32 -0500 Received: from WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL [160.151.107.198] by dclink.com with smtp id AJDAALBG ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:48:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Jay" From: "Jay" To: "Baltimore Cycles List" , "EXUP Brotherhood" , "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Charging Question Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:50:31 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd50ea$de4253a0$c66b97a0@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 I was riding my FZR6 yesterday and at traffic lights, the bike would cut out. This, I have solved, the battery cables were loose. The problem is that I don't understand why I need the battery to run the bike while it's running. Should the alternator not have kept the bike running? It really sucked when I was putzing like I was out of gas, going 40 mph. A little help please! Jay From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 09:53:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15165; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:53:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28748; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:53:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from wdcsun1.usdoj.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21350; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by wdcsun1.usdoj.gov (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA01984 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:47:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from intmail.usdoj.gov(10.222.3.6) by wdcsun1.usdoj.gov via smap (V1.3) id sma001952; Mon Mar 16 09:47:23 1998 Received: by wt1 (1.39.111.2/16.2-WT4.1) id AA112899784; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:49:44 -0500 Received: by TELEMAIL; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 9:35:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 9:35:00 -0500 From: "Glenn B.Dysart" Subject: Rice Boy Home Page To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-Id: X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetJunction 4.5)/STREAM To everyone who went on the MD ride yesterday I told you I would send the URL to this hilarious web site. Its worth a visit. http://sdcc10.ucsd.edu/~bmhong/riceboy/ Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 09:57:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15501; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28878; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21519; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-37-46.s46.tnt7.ann.erols.com [207.172.37.46]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20437; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:57:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350D3E64.CD9D506E@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:59:48 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay CC: Baltimore Cycles List , EXUP Brotherhood , DC Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Charging Question References: <01bd50ea$de4253a0$c66b97a0@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jay, The battery has to be in the loop to complete the circuit. You "could" start the bike, then run a short from each battery wire and then pull the battery out, but I can't see why anyone would want to, and it's not the best on the electrical system. CT Jay wrote: > > I was riding my FZR6 yesterday and at traffic lights, the bike would cut > out. This, I have solved, the battery cables were loose. The problem is > that I don't understand why I need the battery to run the bike while it's > running. Should the alternator not have kept the bike running? It really > sucked when I was putzing like I was out of gas, going 40 mph. A little > help please! > > Jay -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 10:19:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16214; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:19:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29473; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:19:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22792; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:19:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23932 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:19:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06081 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:19:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803161519.KAA06081@shell.clark.net> Subject: Mattress on the beltway? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:19:16 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did anyone hear about an accident on the beltway yesterday? >From what I heard, a Jeep had a boxspring on the roof, which blew off. There were a group of people on motorcycles behind, most got out of the way, but one got hit an knocked off the bike. That's all I heard. This was a "Someone told a friend who told me" type story, and I didn't see anything or hear anything on the news about it, so don't know if it's true or not. The one time (during college) that I had mattresses tied to the roof of my Subaru Wagon, I didn't go over 30, to make sure it wouldn't blow off. I can't picture going on the beltway with a mattress! (of course this being DC, that wouldn't stop anyone) Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 10:23:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16278; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29622; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:23:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22836; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:23:11 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565C9.0054FAD8 ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:28:12 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C9.00540DB9.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:24:07 -0500 Subject: Re: I missed 1729/MC accident Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=W75I4sv7M608viwKYHE46v364vOhV2WllGZwvcCJwkZEJZ0PjVCdA0fr" --0__=W75I4sv7M608viwKYHE46v364vOhV2WllGZwvcCJwkZEJZ0PjVCdA0fr Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Also, I know on automobile brake pads sometimes there's a light glazing on them to prevent them from rusting in the package...if you had your pads changed then it might have taken a few stops to break through the glazing...something the shop should have warned you about. If they did take off a hose, they should have bled the brakes...if they didn't, or didn't test them fully after doing any sort of brake work, then the calipers wouldn't have been pumped to the appropriate pressure or position (the pads hover so amazingly close to the rotor...when you replace pads to have to push the old pads far apart to get them out, in some cases...after installation it would take a few pumps to bring them back to the "ready" position), hence causing the "didn't work then worked really well" condition. -Doug (Embedded image moved MARKSOMM at AMS-Internet to file: 03/16/98 09:31 AM PIC09736.PCX) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL cc: Douglas Brashear Subject: Re: I missed 1729/MC accident In a message dated 98-03-16 08:38:38 EST, you write: << Anyone know what could cause that behavior in the brakes? >> They probably took off the rear brake to change the rear wheel. When it is put back on, fluid needs to be pumped back into the brake caliper to get the pads close enough to the rotor to grip. You do that by pumping the brake pedal. Obviously the shop didn't. When you used the brake repeatedly you did. When the caliper got enough fluid to get the pads onto the rotor it began to work properly. There's probably nothing wrong with your brakes now. If it won't shift you may have bent the shift lever. Get the shop to cover it. That is a very basic mistake that they shouldn't have made. 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Later Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 10:30:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16418; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29858; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23159; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:30:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.77.98]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA2124; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:29:53 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "dc-cycles" Cc: "jeff swanson" Subject: R1100RTL & Valkyrie for sale Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:26:06 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd50ef$d6a9cce0$624d440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Y'all-- I've never seen these bikes, tho I have met the Valkyrie owner. Later Kevin Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:44:20 -0500 From: "Donald W. Schoppe" Subject: FS: 96 BMWR1100RTL (long) Hi all, Now that I've added the new VFR to the stable, I've decided to sell my BMW. I'm afraid she just won't be ridden enough, and will get lonely waiting in the garage. Here's a little history on the bike... Those who know me will vouch that I have taken excellent care of my BMW (sometimes to the point of being extreme, right Fred, Marc?) The bike has always been garage kept, pampered, and truly is in "as new" condition. I am a fair weather rider, so it has been ridden mostly at BB's and on an occasional weekend trip. I've changed the oil (BMW, of course) and filter about every 1500 -2000 miles. The 600 and 6K mile services were performed at Matisson Motor Sports. I also recently performed the 12K mile service and the annual service, including brake fluid renewal. The bike now has 11,800 miles on odo. The back tire was replaced (Macadam) at 10K miles. The front was replaced at 6K and is due for replacement now. (The RT is much harder on front tires than on back). I have had absolutely no problems with this bike, except for a front rim that I managed to slightly bubble by running over a pothole in the mountains. I shelled out the $450 required for a new rim, and I still have the original rim which could be kept as a spare. (The RT is known for having soft, lightweight rims so don't consider this bike for enduro riding ;-)) With that background information out of the way, here's a description of the bike: 1996 BMWR1100RTL - 11,800 miles - Sine Blue - garage kept, pampered - am/fm/cassette stereo - heated grips - saddle bags - optional top case ($450 new) and BMW saddle bag liner provided ($160 new) - Corbin seat - Throttlemeister throttle lock - Hyperlites - Factory service manual ($140 new!) - engine protectors (still in box) - saddle bag scuff protectors (still in box) - Warranty (36Kmi) until 7/99 - all original parts provided (stock seat, bar end weights, etc.) asking $12,500 I think the bike is priced to sell, judging from what I have seen in BMWON and at Matissons. For example, Matissons currently has a 96 RT (not an RTL) w/ 14K miles on their showroom floor. For $12,500, they aren't including any options (no trunk, Corbin, liners, etc.) except for the throttle lock and the bike IMAO (in my anal opinion:-)) is not a perfect specimen. If interested, please contact me off list. Thanks, Don Schoppe 96 BMW R1100RTL (not for long) 97 Duc M900 98 VFR800 -------------------------- mary ann davis is selling a honda valkyrie with low milage. contact her <> He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 10:49:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16689; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:49:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA00297; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:49:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23731; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:48:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD50C8.56ED3770@XXXXXX>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:43:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Chris Norloff'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" , "'cb-1@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Starting Troubles Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:43:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe it's just too darn cold outside for the battery to function properly. Remember... you're trying to start a high-compression(11:1) engine that's offering a lot of resistance to turning over. The battery that's on your bike(and most others for that matter) are designing with fair(warm) weather in mind. The battery seemed to have no trouble starting it the other night(after you ran the bike all day). My VFR is the same way. The charging system puts out a little more than 14 volts at 4500 RPM so I know that it's charging. If I leave it sit overnight in the cold there is no way that I'm going to be able to start it the next morning with jumping it. That's just the nature of the beast. And I deal with it. Maybe you should try looking for a battery with a higher cold-cranking amperage rating. I'm not sure what the current crop of batteries for motorcycles offers, but I do know that as a battery gets colder it becomes less powerful. Running the engine in the higher RPM(above 5000) will also help it charge while you're out and about. Most motorcycles(from what I've seen so far) generally don't start putting out decent power from the alternator until about 4000 RPM. That's all I have to say about that. -Tom '86 VFR750F zell@XXXXXX >-----Original Message----- >From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] >Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 8:41 AM >To: Jinn Sinn; cb-1@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Starting Troubles > >As an engineer and a biker, I agree with both of your friends! > >Seriously, a brand new battery should perform just fine. If it's dying >like that then either the charging system isn't, or there's a leak that's >draining the battery. Check your charging system first. > >Chris Norloff > > >******************************************** >At 06:03 PM 3/14/98 EST, Jinn Sinn wrote: >>here's the deal .... I bought the CB-1, the guy I bought it from said it's a >>little finicky in the cold (fine) ..... however, the battery wouldn't stay >>charged no matter what so I bought a new one ..... worked great until this >>recent cold snap at which point my brand new battery dies and had to be >>resusitated via jump cables and a 45 minute ride to recharge ..... works >>fine >>again. >> >>engineer friend looked at it, said, "a brand new battery should start fine >>even in the cold, you should have someone look at it to make sure the >>alternator is charging the battery, and to make sure the electrical system >>isn't "leaking" when the bikes turned off" >> >>biker friend says," it's a bike. it has trouble in the cold. get a battery >>tender" >> >>any thoughts on who might be correct? >>Thanks >>Marcy >> >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 11:00:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17015; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00702; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from wdcsun1.usdoj.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24202; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:00:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by wdcsun1.usdoj.gov (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA12613 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:55:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from intmail.usdoj.gov(10.222.3.6) by wdcsun1.usdoj.gov via smap (V1.3) id sma012588; Mon Mar 16 10:55:03 1998 Received: by wt1 (1.39.111.2/16.2-WT4.1) id AA091073845; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:57:25 -0500 Received: by TELEMAIL; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:32:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:32:00 -0500 From: "Glenn B.Dysart" Subject: RE: Mattress on the beltway? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-Id: X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetJunction 4.5)/STREAM Didn't see a mattress but I did have to avoid a rolled piece of carpet after I split off with the MD group ride. It was at the Telegraph road exit. A mommy van ran over it in the lane next to me and threw it my way. I was able to miss it by about 5 feet but I was struck by something about the size of a golf ball in my shin. Thank god for multiple clothing layers! Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 11:13:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17175; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01235; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from wdcsun1.usdoj.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24675; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:12:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by wdcsun1.usdoj.gov (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA14663 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:07:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from intmail.usdoj.gov(10.222.3.6) by wdcsun1.usdoj.gov via smap (V1.3) id sma014562; Mon Mar 16 11:07:18 1998 Received: by wt1 (1.39.111.2/16.2-WT4.1) id AA148144579; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:09:39 -0500 Received: by TELEMAIL; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:42:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:42:00 -0500 From: "Glenn B.Dysart" Subject: RE: Ridin Today To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-Id: X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetJunction 4.5)/STREAM Arlington Ride? I think you mean the Alexandria ride. Anyhow, I'd be willing to bet we saw less traffic then you guys did on some of the roads I took them on in southern MD! Nothing urban about these areas! Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 11:13:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17181; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:13:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01257; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:13:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from the.martinagency.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24693; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:13:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by the.martinagency.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA3357 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:06:03 -0800 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:12:42 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:13:56 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: cbr 600 f2 + sitting all winter = starting problems -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sean, Lotsa yer Japanese sporty bikes don't let you change the plugs with the tank in place. So take it off. Shine a flashlight in there to make sure there's no crapola floating about. This is a good time to remove and disassemble the fuel petcock to make sure it's not all mucked up. Maybe that's why you're not getting fuel to the carbs. Once you're getting flow to the carbs, try it again. You might've got lucky and had a blocked petcock instead of varnishy carbs. Good luck. Joe 85 ZX900 >>> CloudsAbv9 - 3/15/98 8:15 PM >>> Heres the deal, I just bought a 93 600 f2, its a nice bike, but, I havent even got it to run yet. Today we drained the tank, put fresh 94 in it and tried juicing it up with some starter fluid... no luck. It roared a couple times, then gave up.. mostly just alot of backfire. we tried to change the plugs, and well... we got then loose, but we didnt have small enough fingers to pull them out.. so thats tomorrows game plan. so anyway, we tried draining the carbs too, but when we opened the valve, nothing came out.. hmm.. got me. Anyway, anyone wanna help me out? I mean, with info.. let me know... I appreciate it. Sean G. Petr Annapolis, MD From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 11:21:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17400; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:21:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01647; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25125; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:21:20 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.8 3-18-1997)) id 852565C9.005A09B9 ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:23:27 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: holm@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C9.00571585.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:22:54 -0400 Subject: Re: I missed 1729/MC accident Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Anyone know what could cause that behavior in the brakes? Sounds like an incompetent mechanic did the work to your bike. If the work had been done right, then the problem would not have shown up in his test ride. A test ride which he obviously did not bother to do. Folks this is a great example of why you should do regular maintenance yourselves. No matter how good a shops reputation is, they will not go that extra mile to do the job as thoroughly as you will do it yourself. Their goal is to work on as many bikes as they can. That means they don't have time to sweat the details. I'm curious. Since the bike is now in wrecked condition presumably because of the lousy brake work the shop did to it, do they intend to make things right and repair your bike at no additional charge? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 11:28:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17486; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:28:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01857; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:28:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25370; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA22802; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:28:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:27:10 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA31@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Glenn B.Dysart'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Ridin Today Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:27:34 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Send us the ride report!! : ) > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn B.Dysart [SMTP:Glenn_B.Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 10:42 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Ridin Today > > Arlington Ride? I think you mean the Alexandria ride. Anyhow, I'd be > > willing > to bet we saw less traffic then you guys did on some of the roads I > took > them on > in southern MD! Nothing urban about these areas! > > Glenn Dysart > dysart@XXXXXX > > 84 V30 Magna From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 11:31:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17586; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01923; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:31:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25508; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:31:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA24596; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:31:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA04785; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:30:51 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA04380; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:29:54 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD50B5.A5B04FE0@XXXXXX>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:29:33 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Sunday Rides was RE: Ridin Today Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:24:38 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 21 TEXT Will anyone be doing a summary of the rides? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Glenn B.Dysart [SMTP:Glenn_B.Dysart@XXXXXX] >Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 7:42 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: Ridin Today > >Arlington Ride? I think you mean the Alexandria ride. Anyhow, I'd be >willing >to bet we saw less traffic then you guys did on some of the roads I took >them on >in southern MD! Nothing urban about these areas! > >Glenn Dysart >dysart@XXXXXX > >84 V30 Magna From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 11:54:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA18009; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:54:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA02438; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26223; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-37-46.s46.tnt7.ann.erols.com [207.172.37.46]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13081; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:53:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350D59B5.89D95550@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:56:21 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Louis F. Caplan" CC: DC-Cycles List Subject: Re: Mattress on the beltway? References: <199803161519.KAA06081@shell.clark.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Going out route 7 to meet the western group, John Koh and I passed a minivan with both box springs and mattress on top of it doing in the neighborhood of 60mph!! We didn't stick around it to find out how well it was lashed down... Some people have all the brains.. oh wait, they were in a cage..guess that explains it :) Louis F. Caplan wrote: > I can't picture going on the beltway with a mattress! (of course > this being DC, that wouldn't stop anyone) > > Louis -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 12:41:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20291; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03211; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:41:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA29972; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:40:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id MAA21978 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA31671 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:40:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980316174021.CSHL27160@XXXXXX> for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:40:21 -0600 Message-ID: <350D6405.A7BADA7B@mci.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:40:21 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Tree on the Parkway, was: Mattress on the beltway? References: <199803161519.KAA06081@shell.clark.net> <350D59B5.89D95550@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reminds me of a time on the PW Parkway when I saw up ahead of me a dump truck pulling a trailer full of dirt and dead wood. In the back of the truck sticking way out in the air was the top of a good sized tree. Anyway, the truck, despite it's load, was making pretty good time, until it hit about 50mph or so, when the back of the truck began to oscillate wildly side to side, that stupid tree top was rocking to and fro, the trailer was waggling from left to right, I thought for sure he was gonna lose it, "SLOW DOWN YOU FOOL!" I mentally shouted to him. So what's the driver do? Why, he moves over into the passing lane to pass somebody! = :-o I didn't stick around either, so I don't know if this guy killed anyone or not that day. But it is amazing when people reach new heights in stupidity. Dale (the Horkster) Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) wrote: > > Going out route 7 to meet the western group, John Koh and I passed a > minivan with both box springs and mattress on top of it doing in the > neighborhood of 60mph!! We didn't stick around it to find out how well > it was lashed down... > Some people have all the brains.. oh wait, they were in a cage..guess > that explains it :) > > Louis F. Caplan wrote: > > I can't picture going on the beltway with a mattress! (of course > > this being DC, that wouldn't stop anyone) > > > > Louis > > -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 12:43:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20502; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03222; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00334; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:43:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A4A54710296; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:43:01 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980316121345.00f7c6a0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:13:45 -0500 To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Charging Question In-Reply-To: <01bd50ea$de4253a0$c66b97a0@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:50 AM 3/16/98 -0500, Jay wrote: >I was riding my FZR6 yesterday and at traffic lights, the bike would cut >out. This, I have solved, the battery cables were loose. The problem is >that I don't understand why I need the battery to run the bike while it's >running. Should the alternator not have kept the bike running? It really >sucked when I was putzing like I was out of gas, going 40 mph. A little >help please! The charging system doesn't charge at low rpm, and bike runs off the battery. Bikes I've known need to be spinning 3,000 to 5,000rpm to put a good charge on the battery. If you'd kept the engine revving enough then it wouldn't have died with the battery disconnected. On a related theme, you need some electricity to push start the bike, because the alternator needs a little electricity to generate more electricity. So you can't push start a bike without a battery. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 13:01:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21151; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03423; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:01:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA01420; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:01:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from AKIMOTO@XXXXXX by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id SKHPa09339; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:58:52 -0500 (EST) From: AKIMOTO Message-ID: <7cd82ee9.350d685e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:58:52 EST To: gixer@XXXXXX, jaynik@XXXXXX Cc: balt-cycles@XXXXXX, exup-brotherhood@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: EXUP Re: Charging Question Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 In a message dated 98-03-16 09:58:10 EST, gixer@XXXXXX writes: > > Jay, > The battery has to be in the loop to complete the circuit. You "could" > start the bike, then run a short from each battery wire and then pull > the battery out, but I can't see why anyone would want to, and it's not > the best on the electrical system. > CT > > Jay wrote: > > > > I was riding my FZR6 yesterday and at traffic lights, the bike would cut > > out. This, I have solved, the battery cables were loose. The problem is > > that I don't understand why I need the battery to run the bike while it's > > running. Should the alternator not have kept the bike running? It really > > sucked when I was putzing like I was out of gas, going 40 mph. A little > > help please! > > > > Jay > > -- > ___ Uhhh I wouldn't reccomend shorting out the two leads all you are going to do is make yourself mad for doing so . The FZR400/600's are very power hungry as a far as voltage is concerned . You may be able to get away with replacing the battery with a 1/2 farad or greater cap of the 16 volt variety once the bike is up and running (This way the charging system will see a load and you will have some reserve for when the bike is idling) but being that you are riding on the street with lights , turnsignals , fan etc I wouldn't recommend it . Besides if your bike ever dies you woun't be able to bump start it easily..... But lets look at the problem , it died at the stop light correct ? Well you found loose battery cables and tightened them , did the problem go away ? What kind of shape is the battery in ? How old is it ? Is there white spots appearing inside the case? What is the water level like in the battery , does it change after a long ride? Take a Digital Multi Meter and measure the voltage across the battery, now do the same with the bike idlling . Any increase in voltage at the battery , now rev the bike up to about 5 grand , did the voltage increase to a certain point say around 14.4 and level off ? Are the cables tight and surfaces clean ? If the battery is more than 3 years old , has been impoperly stored in a cold climate , or if white spots have appeared , consider replacing it Note from here on you should have the service manual for the bike and a DMM so you can check various voltages and resistances in order to rule out parts , but then if you have a manual you would be reading along in the trouble shooting section and wouldn't need the following ...... If the battery works fine the water level is fine at the start of a long ride but when done the level is lower , start looking at the regulator (Common Problem) the easyist way is to borrow a regulator off of a FZR 400, 600 , 750 or 1000 (Same piece only part #'s go up one digit each bike model and see if your problem goes away.... If not chances are the problem lies with in the stator coil or the magneto , you will need a DMM to check the resistance and compare it to the specs in the book , be forwarned this two pieces are not cheap , and require time and a removal tool to service though so racers use their rear axel , I suggest you spend the 6-10 bucks to get the tool, or if you own a 400 or 600 buy the Factory Ignition advance kit and the tool comes with it ........ Hope that helps Rich Fish akimoto@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 13:22:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21513; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:22:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03625; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02224; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:22:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA01253; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:30:05 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'DC Cycles List'" , "'Dale Horstman'" Subject: RE: Tree on the Parkway, was: Mattress on the beltway? Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:23:38 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where is the PW Parkway? ---------- From: Dale Horstman[SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 12:40 PM To: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Tree on the Parkway, was: Mattress on the beltway? Reminds me of a time on the PW Parkway when I saw up ahead of me a dump truck pulling a trailer full of dirt and dead wood. In the back of the truck sticking way out in the air was the top of a good sized tree. Anyway, the truck, despite it's load, was making pretty good time, until it hit about 50mph or so, when the back of the truck began to oscillate wildly side to side, that stupid tree top was rocking to and fro, the trailer was waggling from left to right, I thought for sure he was gonna lose it, "SLOW DOWN YOU FOOL!" I mentally shouted to him. So what's the driver do? Why, he moves over into the passing lane to pass somebody! = :-o I didn't stick around either, so I don't know if this guy killed anyone or not that day. But it is amazing when people reach new heights in stupidity. Dale (the Horkster) Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) wrote: > > Going out route 7 to meet the western group, John Koh and I passed a > minivan with both box springs and mattress on top of it doing in the > neighborhood of 60mph!! We didn't stick around it to find out how well > it was lashed down... > Some people have all the brains.. oh wait, they were in a cage..guess > that explains it :) > > Louis F. Caplan wrote: > > I can't picture going on the beltway with a mattress! (of course > > this being DC, that wouldn't stop anyone) > > > > Louis > > -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 13:32:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21688; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:32:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03698; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:32:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02543; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:32:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id MAA03181; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:30:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA02979; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980316183053.YIXH27632@XXXXXX>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:30:53 -0600 Message-ID: <350D6FE2.457F1F22@mci.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:30:58 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Clements, Curtis A" CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Tree on the Parkway, was: Mattress on the beltway? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In PW, of course! :-) Dale (the Horkster) (Always a smart-aleck!) PS: By PW I mean Prince William county, just south of Fairfax County in Virginia. The PW Parkway runs from I95 in Woodbridge out west to Manassas. Parts of it used to be called Davis Ford Road, if you were ever familiar with the area. Nice scenic 4-lane parkway type road. Beats the snot out of anything else around here for commuting. :-) Clements, Curtis A wrote: > > Where is the PW Parkway? > > ---------- > From: Dale Horstman[SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 12:40 PM > To: DC Cycles List > Subject: Re: Tree on the Parkway, was: Mattress on the beltway? > > Reminds me of a time on the PW Parkway when I saw up > ahead of me a dump truck pulling a trailer full of > dirt and dead wood. In the back of the truck sticking > way out in the air was the top of a good sized tree. > Anyway, the truck, despite it's load, was making pretty > good time, until it hit about 50mph or so, when the back > of the truck began to oscillate wildly side to side, that > stupid tree top was rocking to and fro, the trailer was > waggling from left to right, I thought for sure he was gonna > lose it, "SLOW DOWN YOU FOOL!" I mentally shouted to him. > > So what's the driver do? Why, he moves over into the passing > lane to pass somebody! = :-o > > I didn't stick around either, so I don't know if this guy > killed anyone or not that day. But it is amazing when > people reach new heights in stupidity. > > Dale (the Horkster) > > Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) wrote: > > > > Going out route 7 to meet the western group, John Koh and I passed a > > minivan with both box springs and mattress on top of it doing in the > > neighborhood of 60mph!! We didn't stick around it to find out how well > > it was lashed down... > > Some people have all the brains.. oh wait, they were in a cage..guess > > that explains it :) > > > > Louis F. Caplan wrote: > > > I can't picture going on the beltway with a mattress! (of course > > > this being DC, that wouldn't stop anyone) > > > > > > Louis > > > > -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 13:43:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21892; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:43:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04247; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:43:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03007; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:43:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id MAA08737; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:42:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA05677; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:42:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980316184229.YKES27632@[166.41.242.141]>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:42:29 -0600 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:30 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: sbeck@XXXXXX CC: holm@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I missed 1729/MC accident X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980316184229.YKES27632@[166.41.242.141]> Steve Beck wrote: Sounds like an incompetent mechanic did the work to your bike. If the work had been done right, then the problem would not have shown up in his test ride. A test ride which he obviously did not bother to do. Folks this is a great example of why you should do regular maintenance yourselves. No matter how good a shops reputation is, they will not go that extra mile to do the job as thoroughly as you will do it yourself. Their goal is to work on as many bikes as they can. That means they don't have time to sweat the details. I bought my hyprid Rincon mountain bike from Spokes off of quincy st in arlington (longtime ago). Part of the deal was that they'd tune it up once a year for 3 years. After the the first tune up, I decided to test it out front of Ramparts. I started peddling and the back wheel locked up, sending me over the top. I looked to see what was wrong and found that the back quick-release lock had not been tightened down. Needless to say, I was really pissed off when I stormed back into the shop with wheel in one hand, bike in the other. I wanted to, and would have fattened the lip of the guy who did the work, but he was *conveniently* not working that day. Like steve says, do your own maintenance. You might f-something up now and then, but you'll learn about YOUR bike and know what is wrong and right when it counts. Sorry to hear about the damage, and hope everything works out. Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 13:45:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21936; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04318; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from drquest.digex.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03120; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:45:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.17.2.19 (pix001010.staff.digex.net [206.205.169.22]) by drquest.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA26981; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:45:18 -0500 X-Mailer: InterCon tcpCONNECT4 4.0.2 (Macintosh) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9803161347.AA32188@172.17.2.19> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:47:32 -0500 From: "Matt Elliott - DIGEX" To: "Louis F. Caplan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Subject: Re: Mattress on the beltway? Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: Inline Friend of mine (sorry to say sometimes!) was doing about 40, with a box springs/mirror/mattress tied to the top of his Trooper, and a gust came along and blew them clean off. fortunately no one was behind him, esp. bikes. You have to wonder sometimes about the education of folks in the area - supposedly it's one of the highest in completed education, but you never know... Matt > The one time (during college) that I had mattresses tied to the roof of > my Subaru Wagon, I didn't go over 30, to make sure it wouldn't blow > off. I can't picture going on the beltway with a mattress! (of > course this being DC, that wouldn't stop anyone) > > Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 14:01:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA22273; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04646; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:01:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03760; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A6F74BF0296; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:01:11 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980316134934.00f9c210@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:49:34 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Tree on the Parkway, was: Mattress on the beltway? In-Reply-To: <350D6405.A7BADA7B@mci.com> References: <199803161519.KAA06081@shell.clark.net> <350D59B5.89D95550@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:40 PM 3/16/98 -0500, Dale Horstman wrote: >Reminds me of a time on the PW Parkway when I saw up >ahead of me a dump truck pulling a trailer full of >dirt and dead wood. In the back of the truck sticking >way out in the air was the top of a good sized tree. >Anyway, the truck, despite it's load, was making pretty >good time, until it hit about 50mph or so, when the back >of the truck began to oscillate wildly side to side, that >stupid tree top was rocking to and fro, the trailer was >waggling from left to right, I thought for sure he was gonna >lose it, "SLOW DOWN YOU FOOL!" I mentally shouted to him. > >So what's the driver do? Why, he moves over into the passing >lane to pass somebody! = :-o I wonder if that was the truck driver that got all those tickets, continues to drive defective trucks, lost his license, got it back, then ran a red light, overturned and killed that student. Sounds like something he'd do! I was once following an old truck carrying auto hulks. The car being towed had lost its tire, and was dragging along on the rim. At about 45 mph. The rim was gouging the pavement and throwing a 25-foot fountain of sparks. I pulled up along side, tooted my horn, and motioned back to the towed car. The driver smiled knowingly, nodded his head, and waved. And kept on going. It's a jungle out there, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 14:27:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA22729; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:27:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05145; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:26:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from dialup0.bushnell.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04660; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:26:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from bushnell.net.bushnell.net (ttyR2 [207.177.24.142]) by dialup0.bushnell.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03186; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:25:33 -0600 Message-Id: <199803161925.NAA03186@dialup0.bushnell.net> From: "Dave Balfour" To: "AKIMOTO" , , Cc: , , Subject: Re: EXUP Re: Charging Question Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 13:13:54 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit at idle speeds the alternator may well not put out enought current to run your machine. That is one of the purposes of a battery. dave balfour ---------- | From: AKIMOTO | To: gixer@XXXXXX; jaynik@XXXXXX | Cc: balt-cycles@XXXXXX; exup-brotherhood@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX | Subject: Re: EXUP Re: Charging Question | Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 11:58 AM | | In a message dated 98-03-16 09:58:10 EST, gixer@XXXXXX writes: | | > | > Jay, | > The battery has to be in the loop to complete the circuit. You "could" | > start the bike, then run a short from each battery wire and then pull | > the battery out, but I can't see why anyone would want to, and it's not | > the best on the electrical system. | > CT | > | > Jay wrote: | > > | > > I was riding my FZR6 yesterday and at traffic lights, the bike would cut | > > out. This, I have solved, the battery cables were loose. The problem is | > > that I don't understand why I need the battery to run the bike while it's | > > running. Should the alternator not have kept the bike running? It | really | > > sucked when I was putzing like I was out of gas, going 40 mph. A little | > > help please! | > > | > > Jay | > | > -- | > ___ | | | Uhhh I wouldn't reccomend shorting out the two leads all you are going to do | is make yourself mad for doing so . The FZR400/600's are very power hungry as | a far as voltage is concerned . You may be able to get away with replacing the | battery with a 1/2 farad or greater cap of the 16 volt variety once the bike | is up and running (This way the charging system will see a load and you will | have some reserve for when the bike is idling) but being that you are riding | on the street with lights , turnsignals , fan etc I wouldn't recommend it . | Besides if your bike ever dies you woun't be able to bump start it easily..... | | | But lets look at the problem , it died at the stop light correct ? Well you | found loose battery cables and tightened them , did the problem go away ? What | kind of shape is the battery in ? How old is it ? Is there white spots | appearing inside the case? What is the water level like in the battery , does | it change after a long ride? Take a Digital Multi Meter and measure the | voltage across the battery, now do the same with the bike idlling . Any | increase in voltage at the battery , now rev the bike up to about 5 grand , | did the voltage increase to a certain point say around 14.4 and level off ? | | Are the cables tight and surfaces clean ? If the battery is more than 3 years | old , has been impoperly stored in a cold climate , or if white spots have | appeared , consider replacing it | | Note from here on you should have the service manual for the bike and a DMM so | you can check various voltages and resistances in order to rule out parts , | but then if you have a manual you would be reading along in the trouble | shooting section and wouldn't need the following ...... | | | If the battery works fine the water level is fine at the start of a long ride | but when done the level is lower , start looking at the regulator (Common | Problem) | the easyist way is to borrow a regulator off of a FZR 400, 600 , 750 or 1000 | (Same piece only part #'s go up one digit each bike model and see if your | problem goes away.... | | | If not chances are the problem lies with in the stator coil or the magneto , | you will need a DMM to check the resistance and compare it to the specs in the | book , be forwarned this two pieces are not cheap , and require time and a | removal tool to service though so racers use their rear axel , I suggest you | spend the 6-10 bucks to get the tool, or if you own a 400 or 600 buy the | Factory Ignition advance kit and the tool comes with it ........ | | | Hope that helps | | Rich Fish | akimoto@XXXXXX | | | ============================================================ | **Don't forget EXUP IRC chat Thursday at 9 PM MST** | ============================================================ | **Euro chat is sunday at 19:00 GMT** | ============================================================ | ---> The New 'Official' Brotherhood web page is up! | ---> visit http://superbike.home.mindspring.com/exup.html | ============================================================ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 14:43:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA23003; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05383; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05161; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:42:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA26036; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:42:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:42:12 -0500 (EST) From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: sbeck@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I missed 1729/MC accident In-Reply-To: <852565C9.00571585.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 16 Mar 1998 sbeck@XXXXXX wrote: > I'm curious. Since the bike is now in wrecked condition presumably because > of the lousy brake work the shop did to it, do they intend to make things > right and repair your bike at no additional charge? Well, actually, NO! I kind of hoped they would, but they just called me with an estimate for the crash-related repairs to the bike. I usually do my own work, at least the tune up part, but this year has been very difficult personally, and very busy, so I decided to let the shope do it. Plus I always let the shop do brake work, as I don't really trust my low level of expertise in this critical area. Certainly Herndon Cycle Sport will get less of my business, as I do believe there was some sort of problem with the brakes, which caused this crash. Julie :-( From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 14:52:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA23171; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:52:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05698; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:52:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05581; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:52:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id OAA20562; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:52:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma020540; Mon, 16 Mar 98 14:52:03 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:52:39 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'Chris Norloff'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Tree on the Parkway, was: Mattress on the beltway? Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:52:36 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Or the more typical thing -- a truck with dirt and rocks in the back, without a secure cover on top. Gravel flying from one of those on the Dulles Toll Road left a nice gouge in the windshield of my truck last week. (Luckily, small enough to get it fixed for free.) --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 1:50 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Tree on the Parkway, was: Mattress on the beltway? > > At 12:40 PM 3/16/98 -0500, Dale Horstman wrote: > >Reminds me of a time on the PW Parkway when I saw up > >ahead of me a dump truck pulling a trailer full of > >dirt and dead wood. In the back of the truck sticking > >way out in the air was the top of a good sized tree. > >Anyway, the truck, despite it's load, was making pretty > >good time, until it hit about 50mph or so, when the back > >of the truck began to oscillate wildly side to side, that > >stupid tree top was rocking to and fro, the trailer was > >waggling from left to right, I thought for sure he was gonna > >lose it, "SLOW DOWN YOU FOOL!" I mentally shouted to him. > > > >So what's the driver do? Why, he moves over into the passing > >lane to pass somebody! = :-o > > > I wonder if that was the truck driver that got all those tickets, > continues > to drive defective trucks, lost his license, got it back, then ran a > red > light, overturned and killed that student. Sounds like something he'd > do! > > I was once following an old truck carrying auto hulks. The car being > towed > had lost its tire, and was dragging along on the rim. At about 45 > mph. > The rim was gouging the pavement and throwing a 25-foot fountain of > sparks. > I pulled up along side, tooted my horn, and motioned back to the > towed car. > > The driver smiled knowingly, nodded his head, and waved. > > And kept on going. > > It's a jungle out there, > Chris Norloff > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 15:10:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23535; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:10:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA05909; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:09:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06209; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:09:52 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.8 3-18-1997)) id 852565C9.006EFA96 ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:12:11 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565C9.006EA119.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:11:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Tree on the Parkway, was: Mattress on the beltway? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII The driver smiled knowingly, nodded his head, and waved. And kept on going. It's a jungle out there, Chris Norloff Yes, and it's full of rabid animals. 8-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 15:22:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23768; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:22:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06013; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemini.smart.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06501; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:22:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from richard (max2p206.smart.net [206.97.127.206]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05341 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:22:05 -0500 Message-ID: <350D8959.5D0B@smart.net> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:19:37 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Gimer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Sunday Rides was RE: Ridin Today References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > > Will anyone be doing a summary of the rides? > I would be happy to give a recap of the westerly Sunday ride, but am not familiar enough with the roads and would almost certainly attribute the wrong riders to the bikes involved.....my best bets for a coherent ride report would probably be Todd Peer, Michael Jordan (sorry if this is incorrect, but he was riding a GSX1100), or Collin Fagan (on a borrowed TL1000S which had occasional problems keeping its front wheel near the ground). -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX '94 ZX-11D From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 16:01:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA24811; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:01:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07277; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:00:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from wdcsun1.usdoj.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08180; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by wdcsun1.usdoj.gov (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA27271 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from intmail.usdoj.gov(10.222.3.6) by wdcsun1.usdoj.gov via smap (V1.3) id sma027157; Mon Mar 16 15:54:51 1998 Received: by wt1 (1.39.111.2/16.2-WT4.1) id AA125641832; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:57:12 -0500 Received: by TELEMAIL; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:33:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:33:00 -0500 From: "Glenn B.Dysart" Subject: RE: Charging Question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-Id: X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetJunction 4.5)/STREAM Well I don't know about you guys but I don't know of any MC that can run without the battery including mine. Last time my battery died I was on VA 647 and had to putter all the way home. A friend of mine had the same problem on his Hawk. I just think the output of MC alternators just isn't up to supply enough power regardless of RPM, unlike a cage. my .02 Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 16:27:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA25371; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:27:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08140; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:26:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09178; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:26:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id QAA11439; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:26:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:23:14 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA49@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Glenn B.Dysart'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Charging Question Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:23:39 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Two words that have saved my bike: battery tender - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn B.Dysart [SMTP:Glenn_B.Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 3:33 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Charging Question > > Well I don't know about you guys but I don't know of any MC that can > run > without > the battery including mine. Last time my battery died I was on VA 647 > and > had > to putter all the way home. A friend of mine had the same problem on > his > Hawk. > I just think the output of MC alternators just isn't up to supply > enough > power > regardless of RPM, unlike a cage. > > my .02 > > Glenn Dysart > dysart@XXXXXX > > 84 V30 Magna From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 16:39:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA25547; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08605; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09497; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD50F9.33DA8680@XXXXXX>; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:33:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Glenn B.Dysart'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Charging Question Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:33:06 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, they're not up to it.... People find this out when switching to higher wattage lighting and so forth. The job of the alternator is to supply enough power to charge an "in tune" battery and run the ignition and lights. That's it...plain and simple(of course this doesn't apply to 'Wings and the other full-on tourers). -Tom '86 VFR750 >-----Original Message----- >From: Glenn B.Dysart [SMTP:Glenn_B.Dysart@XXXXXX] >Sent: Monday, March 16, 1998 3:33 PM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: Charging Question > >Well I don't know about you guys but I don't know of any MC that can run >without >the battery including mine. Last time my battery died I was on VA 647 and >had >to putter all the way home. A friend of mine had the same problem on his >Hawk. >I just think the output of MC alternators just isn't up to supply enough >power >regardless of RPM, unlike a cage. > >my .02 > >Glenn Dysart >dysart@XXXXXX > >84 V30 Magna From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 16:46:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA25754; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:46:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08743; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:46:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09790; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-70-22.s22.tnt11.brd.erols.com [207.172.70.22]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA25624 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:46:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980316164724.00745d10@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: cfagan@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:47:24 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: non-moto:gaming.. Ok, a little moto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey all, thought I'd drop a note to see if anyone else had checked out Subspace yet (http://subspace.vie.com/download.html) I'll be in the alpha east zone kickin a few peoples butt :) and hey.. It wasn't me... the front tire kept running into these small temporal zones of zero gravity...musta been holes in the space time continuim caused by excessive warp speed and all that.... Or maybe it was because I had skipped warp and gone to plaid! Collin _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 16:50:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA25839; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:50:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08794; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:50:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09843; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1JPCa08634 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:49:37 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9 Message-ID: <169f70d4.350d9e71@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:49:37 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: 93 NightHawk 750 for sale Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 yup.. I bought that 93 cbr that wont start, so, mine as well sell my only bike that does run... right? Here's the deal--> its black, chrome pipes, 5 star mags, it has the silver engine(not the black painted one), the bike is in imaculate condition, but the speedo stopped working sometime last year, and I just replaced it, so it has 0 miles!! just kidding, it has 6,900 miles... not too shabby. The bike has been maintained very well. So, if your interested, or know someone who is... let me know, I'd love to here from you =) Sean G. Petr From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 17:58:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA29295; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:58:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10554; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:58:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA11869; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA05486 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:58:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350DD988.3B85@mnsinc.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:01:44 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: [Fwd: mc fs: bmw 750] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------628C1A7E88" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------628C1A7E88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey gang, Usual disclaimers apply, I know nothing about it, this is as I received it. Please don't ask me for any info. -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" --------------628C1A7E88 Content-Type: message/news Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Path: news1.mnsinc.com!news2.mnsinc.com!news-pen-1.sprintlink.net!news-east.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!feed2.news.erols.com!erols!news.voicenet.com!newsxfer.visi.net!news.clark.net!pcbuddy!airnsun.pcbuddy.com!David.Shapiro From: David.Shapiro@XXXXXX (David Shapiro) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 98 11:24:48 GMT Message-ID: Newsgroups: dc.forsale.misc Subject: mc fs: bmw 750 Organization: Air 'n Sun Xref: news1.mnsinc.com dc.forsale.misc:14124 1975 R-bike for sale, 750 cc /6. ridden dialy by me, but too funky for my sweetheart. windjammer, bar-backs, engine guard. B.O 301-699-8833 --------------628C1A7E88-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 19:21:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA02073; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA11983; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from DONALD.CDER.FDA.GOV by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA16251; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:20:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr.cder.fda.gov by fdaserv.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.1-8 #21467) id <01IUQSME914W8ZGAKQ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:42:44 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:09:18 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta DONALD; Relayed; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:09:18 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:09:04 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy 301-594-5672 FAX 301-480-8329 Subject: Re: Mattress on the beltway? In-reply-to: <9803161347.AA32188@172.17.2.19> To: DC Cycles Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:09:04 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: E1010IHG3H3SO X400-MTS-identifier: [;81906161308991/2433924@FDACD] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 >You have to wonder sometimes about the education of folks in the area >- supposedly it's one of the highest in completed education, but you >never know... Education and common sense don't seem to agree with one another as often as you might expect... Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 21:26:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA04599; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:26:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA13319; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:25:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA19792; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13272; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:25:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350E09F2.1250@mnsinc.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:28:18 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles CC: Tom Zell Subject: RE: Starting Troubles Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Zell > Maybe it's just too darn cold outside for the battery to function > properly. Remember... you're trying to start a high-compression(11:1) > engine that's offering a lot of resistance to turning over. The battery > that's on your bike(and most others for that matter) are designing with > fair(warm) weather in mind. The battery seemed to have no trouble > starting it the other night(after you ran the bike all day). My VFR is > the same way. The charging system puts out a little more than 14 volts > at 4500 RPM so I know that it's charging. If I leave it sit overnight > in the cold there is no way that I'm going to be able to start it the > next morning with jumping it. That's just the nature of the beast. Tom, did you mean to say without "jumping it"? That's what the context leads me to believe. Anyway, if that's so, maybe the problem - apart from a low battery - is a higher viscosity oil. My 1985 VF700F Interceptor has not had any problems starting in the cold ever. Now I gather you did the BS mod (bore & stroke ;) but I'm really surprised your bike won't start in the morning even when the temps get into the teens overnight. -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 21:29:31 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA04632; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:29:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA13375; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:29:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from u1.farm.idt.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA19861; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:29:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from ajclark.ios.com (ppp-23.ts-3.dc.idt.net [169.132.20.23]) by u1.farm.idt.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA09319 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:29:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:29:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803170229.VAA09319@u1.farm.idt.net> X-Sender: ajclark@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Allan Clark Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 22:23:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA06376; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:23:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA13624; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA20893; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:23:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.39] (unverified [207.226.128.39]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:22:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I missed 1729/MC accident Date: Mon, 16 Mar 98 22:23:50 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Todd Peer" , cc: , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Like steve says, do your own maintenance. You might f-something > up now and then, but you'll learn about YOUR bike and know what > is wrong and right when it counts. And lets be honest, if you spend 8 hours doing what takes a mechanic 1 hour, chances are good you did it right. I'd reccomend that the first accessory bought with a new bike is the factory service manual as well as the clymer's and hayne's. Can never have too much info. When in doubt, use a polaroid and a camcorder to document the dismantling. ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 22:23:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA06377; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:23:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA13620; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA20889; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:23:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.39] (unverified [207.226.128.39]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:22:27 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I missed 1729/MC accident Date: Mon, 16 Mar 98 22:23:47 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Julie and/or Mark Holm" , cc: "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Well, actually, NO! I kind of hoped they would, but they just called me >with an estimate for the crash-related repairs to the bike. Tell them to go f**k themselves. They should be very happy if you decide not to sue them. You're a NGG, beating them up shouldn't be too hard;) >I usually do my own work, at least the tune up part, but this year has >been very difficult personally, and very busy, so I decided to let the >shope do it. Plus I always let the shop do brake work, as I don't really >trust my low level of expertise in this critical area. Brakes are one of the easiest areas to work on, actually. Well, discs are. One time I did a drum brake job, I botched it up a little bit:) But, I know what I did wrong, and won't do it again. If in doubt, one of us listers should be changing brake pads soon, so you can watch and learn. BTW, until I have several hundred bucks for an engine analyzer, the FI BMW goes to the shop for scheduled maintenance. But brakes, tires, fork fluid (oops, don't have any:) and the like do get done by me. ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 16 23:18:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06880; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:18:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA14528; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA21815; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com ([209.49.109.130]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA11512 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:18:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980316232016.0069ae90@pop.mindspring.com> Received: from [172.16.4.56] by firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com via smtpd (for welchlink.welch.jhu.edu [128.220.59.78]) with SMTP; 17 Mar 1998 04:18:34 UT X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:20:16 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Deal's Gap Photos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Although I'm still waiting for another roll of film to be developed, I scanned in a few photos from my trip to Asheville and Deal's Gap. Check out my webpage, http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm . While you're at it, feel free to check out my son at http://www.greenspun.com/benjamin and his cookie-making page. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 00:08:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA07800; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15499; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:07:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22713; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:07:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id AAA05994; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:15:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:15:09 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: thetrick@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: cx500 problems In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980314011104.009829c0@mail.wizard.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It sounds like you'll need to remove and clean the carbs. But before you do that, check the ignition (spark) timing, if the bike had points-ignition (I don't remember, and manual is out in the shop). Also check the air filter for debris, mouse nests, rags blocking the intake, etc., any of which can cause the symptoms you describe. You can probably do the carb rebuild yourself. If you prefer not to, you can save some $ by bringing the carbs to the shop. Do NOT, however, bring a partly disassembled set of carbs and a handful of parts; nobody likes basket cases, and will charge accordingly. If you bring them here (Survival Services, aka The Mirage Garage), rebuild will cost around $50, assuming old parts can be cleaned and re-used, which is generally the case. --garcia "The pride and presence of a professional football team is far more important than 30 libraries." Art Modell, owner of the Baltimore Ravens, 1996 On Sat, 14 Mar 1998 thetrick@XXXXXX wrote: > hi folks. i've been working on my cx500 and trying to get it to run > properly. it starts and idles no problem, but it seems to run really rich > - some black smoke at idle, lots when accelerating, and once its warm it > produces some healthy flame-throwing backfires upon deceleration! when i > try to rev it up, it tends to bog down a lot of the time, even stall. > > background: the bike had been sitting for a while before i bought it last > month (nor am i currently riding it). i put in new plugs last weekend and > did a valve adjustment today, both of which helped some, thought the plugs > had a nice coat of soot on them almost instantly. there is spark at both > plugs (i don't know about strength of the spark or proper timing). i put > some carb cleaner in the gas today, and i am using 93 octane gas. > > i suspect the carbs. should i take them off and have them cleaned (i don't > really have the space or equipment to do it myself)? could it be anything > else, such as the ignition? could the bike miraculously fix itself after > being run for a while? :o) any idea on how much a cleaning or rebuild > would cost me? > > thanks in advance. > Tom > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 00:21:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08070; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:21:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15781; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:21:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA23020; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA27465; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:16:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:16:47 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Sender: "Gil M. Nissley" Reply-To: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: I missed 1729/MC accident To: Julie and/or Mark Holm cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Julie and/or Mark Holm wrote: > On Mon, 16 Mar 1998 sbeck@XXXXXX wrote: > > I'm curious. Since the bike is now in wrecked condition presumably because > > of the lousy brake work the shop did to it, do they intend to make things > > right and repair your bike at no additional charge? > Well, actually, NO! I kind of hoped they would, but they just called me > with an estimate for the crash-related repairs to the bike. That's bullshite,plain and simple.They screwed up your bike in a way that resulted in someone getting injured.Talk to the owner/manager and inform them that fixing your bike _and_ paying your medical insurance deductable will be much cheaper than what a lawyer will get out of them. Not to mention that you're on the 'net with a bunch of their current/ future customers and their rep is on the line. If they don't pay for both the repairs and the deductable,pick your bike up and take it to another dealer to get checked out.Then call a lawyer.Are they a state inspection station?You may with to get the feds involved as well and report them.A dealer that leaves fingerprints on your paint is one thing;a dealer that screws up your brakes should not be tolerated. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 01:06:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA08819; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:06:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA16400; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:06:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA24114; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:06:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from achatt.erols.com (207-172-243-122.s59.as4.rkv.erols.com [207.172.243.122]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA10843; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:06:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <018101bd516a$d646f680$7af3accf@achatt.erols.com> From: "Amit Chatterjie" To: "Julie and/or Mark Holm" , Subject: Re: I missed 1729/MC accident Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:06:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I'm terribly sorry to hear about this incident. I'm NOT an attorney but I have had my fair share of accidents (and consequences). I strongly believe that the shop is liable for damages. As Mark was not properly dressed for riding this could present some legal problems, but I would rather pay a fine for not wearing a helmet but collect on their liability. After all, the shop has insurance for these events. Also, it is important for shops to realize that they have to maintain a certain standard of commitment. There are attorneys specialized in motorcycle incidents. If you need info just send a post. Wish him a speedy recovery. Amit CBR1000 PS. I know there are listers more mechanically able than me, but it sounds like air in the brakes or the fluid just didn't reach the pads. They should have taken a test run. I run my bike all year and when I get a service done & pick up the bike I make the mechanic test the bike in front of me. I had them do it even when it was snowing once. They don't mind. They are happier to know that you care. They should take pride in their work. -----Original Message----- From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Monday, March 16, 1998 8:38 AM Subject: I missed 1729/MC accident >We did this, and I suited up and picked up the bike. I had a lot of work >done to it, including new tires and a tune up and having the brake fluid >replaced. > >Now we had planned to pick up my bike, so who is it who is completely >outfitted for riding. Right, me. Who is not wearing any protection, >except his jacket? Right, Mark. No helmet. > >Of course he is not going to go more than 10 or 15 MPH. (Actually he was >only doing 5 or so. > >He got on the bike, and sure enough the brakes were not working very well. >Then SUDDENLY they were. As he was bearing slightly right into a parking >space. The bike high sided, and he hit gravel. > >Even that slow, he was pretty badly hurt. In addition to a lot of >bruising, he broke his collarbone and rib, and had a concussion. The >concussion has passed, but he is in a lot of pain. He's not really >supposed to go to work this week, but of course he has. > >Anyway. That's our excuse. Get together again in three or four weeks and >we'll meet you, though riding may have to wait. > >Lost the windshield, and a turn signal stalk, and there is some >crookedness in the handlebars. Also, my brother Phil, who rode the bike >back to Cycle Sport with me, reports that the bike won't go above 2nd >gear. > >So it's back in the shop, and they better look at the brakes really close. > >Anyone know what could cause that behavior in the brakes? > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 01:39:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA09072; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:39:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA16546; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:38:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA24488; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.172.45.53] (207-172-119-81.s81.tnt2.brd.erols.com [207.172.119.81]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13514 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:38:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:38:04 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: r.chapin@XXXXXX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Ryan Chapin Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 08:25:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA12589; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:25:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA22411; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:23:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02224; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A929AB01AC; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:22:49 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980317074425.00eec7c0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:44:25 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Deal's Gap Photos In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980316232016.0069ae90@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:20 PM 3/16/98 -0500, Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. wrote: > Although I'm still waiting for another roll of film to be developed, I >scanned in a few photos from my trip to Asheville and Deal's Gap. Check >out my webpage, http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm . While you're at >it, feel free to check out my son at http://www.greenspun.com/benjamin and >his cookie-making page. Very nice! I really like the photo with all the ice & snow. I've spent many a mile myself on the Blue Ridge Parkway - sometimes putting along and rolling through every scenic overlook, and other times working hard to round out my tires after too many miles of straight traveling. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 08:25:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA12594; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA22410; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:23:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02225; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A927AB01AC; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:22:47 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980317072931.00ee3df0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:29:31 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Charging Question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:33 PM 3/16/98 -0500, Glenn B.Dysart wrote: >Well I don't know about you guys but I don't know of any MC that can run >without >the battery including mine. Last time my battery died I was on VA 647 and >had >to putter all the way home. A friend of mine had the same problem on his >Hawk. >I just think the output of MC alternators just isn't up to supply enough >power >regardless of RPM, unlike a cage. It has to charge. A battery can't last for years in a continual state of discharge. Typically the charging system does not put out enough power to run the bike or to charge the battery at low rpms. On my bike, the alternator puts out enough to just balance the load at about 2,500-3,000 rpm. At 5,000 rpm or higher it's charging its max. You can see this by putting a voltmeter across the battery terminals with the engine running. Below 13.2 volts the battery is discharging, above 13.2 the battery is charging (a 12 volt battery is actually 13.2 volts, 2.2 volts per each of 6 cells). Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 10:12:08 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15773; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:12:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25880; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:11:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07053; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:10:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA20545 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:10:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:10:16 -0500 (EST) From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: HCS and accident Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, I'm not enthused about the litigous society I live in, so I probably won't sue. But I am planning to write a letter to the manager/owner of Herdon Cycle Sport, telling him that I think a mistake in the repair is to blame, and that I'd like the resulting repairs, including coverage of the broken windshield, covered by his company. We'll see how they respond. Since we have an HMO, the medical stuff is pretty much covered. If I have to go to my MC insurance, then they may choose to sue. Mark, by the way, feels the same way I do. Planning to try to get the police report and see what they say. Julie From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 10:24:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16289; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:24:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26165; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:23:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from att.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07665; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:20:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by cagw2.att.com; Tue Mar 17 10:01 EST 1998 Received: from dcn72.dcn.att.com (dcn72.dcn.att.com [135.44.192.2]) by caig1.att.att.com (AT&T/GW-1.0) with SMTP id JAA26075 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:28:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by dcn72.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD5186.FF813FD0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:28:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:28:08 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I remember a brief discussion about this not too long ago, but I can't remember if anyone had a definitive answer. Does Smart Tag/Fast Toll work on a motorcycle? I thought I could put it in my tankbag since it works by radio transmission. (Although, I'm not sure how powerful it is) Thanks. John Carver jcarver@XXXXXX '98 VFR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 10:39:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16685; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:39:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26442; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08613; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:38:57 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.8 3-18-1997)) id 852565CA.00562653 ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:40:59 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: holm@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565CA.00558AE8.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:40:54 -0400 Subject: Re: HCS and accident Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII But I am planning to write a letter to the manager/owner of Herdon Cycle Sport, telling him that I think a mistake in the repair is to blame, and that I'd like the resulting repairs, including coverage of the broken windshield, covered by his company. Good luck in your attempt to get them to do the right thing. You might want to let them know about our DC-Cycles list and that we will be either praising them because they made it right, or trashing them for their incompetence. Steve Beck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 10:45:02 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16896; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:45:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26512; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08993; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16720; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:40:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350E9940.7D01DE0F@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:39:44 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Carver, John" CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Jordan told me on Sunday that he uses his every day on the bike..... Never tried it myself. Have you already picked up your VFR (or have they even arrived here yet..forgive my ignorance on this :)) If so, what's the verdict? Everything they say it is? Collin Carver, John wrote: > John Carver > jcarver@XXXXXX > '98 VFR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 10:49:02 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16980; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:49:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26601; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:48:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from wdcsun1.usdoj.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09132; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by wdcsun1.usdoj.gov (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA18629 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from intmail.usdoj.gov(10.222.3.6) by wdcsun1.usdoj.gov via smap (V1.3) id sma018584; Tue Mar 17 10:43:28 1998 Received: by wt1 (1.39.111.2/16.2-WT4.1) id AA196919550; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:45:50 -0500 Received: by TELEMAIL; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 9:34:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 9:34:00 -0500 From: "Glenn B.Dysart" Subject: RE: Charging Question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-Id: X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetJunction 4.5)/STREAM I didn't say it doesn't charge, I said it doesn't provide enough power for the MC to run on its own (without the battery). Unlike a car where it only uses the battery to start the car and for reserve power. This of course excludes dirt bikes with magnetos (as someone pointed out). Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna (with strong battery) >It has to charge. A battery can't last for years in a continual state of >discharge. >Typically the charging system does not put out enough power to run the bike >or to charge the battery at low rpms. On my bike, the alternator puts out >enough to just balance the load at about 2,500-3,000 rpm. At 5,000 rpm or >higher it's charging its max. >You can see this by putting a voltmeter across the battery terminals with >the engine running. Below 13.2 volts the battery is discharging, above >13.2 the battery is charging (a 12 volt battery is actually 13.2 volts, 2.2 >volts per each of 6 cells). From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 10:49:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17005; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:49:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26618; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:49:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09156; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:49:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id KAA11349; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:49:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma011271; Tue, 17 Mar 98 10:49:02 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:49:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'Carver, John'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:49:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain People seen to have mixed results. I've used it by waving it in the air as I go thru -- works but is a pain in the neck, and I find using change easier. I tried using the mounting strips to put it on my windscreen -- didn't work. But others have told me this DOES work. My next attempt it going to be putting it in the clear plastic map pocket of my tank bag. Someone from the list (I wish I could remember who) told me they have put it on a cycoactive barpack and it's worked... seems to me the map pocket of the tank bag should have the same effect. I'm assuming there's a battery in the box, I'm wondering if mine is just low and that's what's giving me problems. There was something in AMA's magazine a while back about the EZPass system in NYC, apparently bikes pay a reduced toll on the bridges and tunnels there but they didn't set up EZPass to deal with this -- so you either wait in the line, or pay the car rate. Apparently they're looking into this. Given the time it takes for a biker to fumble with change (compared to an auto) and the low number of bikes, and the fact that Fastoll officially doesn't support motorcycles, I wonder if it's worth someone approaching VDOT with the idea of no toll for bikes... I'd sure love it! --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: Carver, John [SMTP:jcarver@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 9:28 AM > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles > > I remember a brief discussion about this not too long ago, but I can't > remember if anyone had a definitive answer. Does Smart Tag/Fast Toll > work on a motorcycle? I thought I could put it in my tankbag since it > works by radio transmission. (Although, I'm not sure how powerful it > is) Thanks. > > > John Carver > jcarver@XXXXXX > '98 VFR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 10:53:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17109; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:53:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26674; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09264; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:53:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA26001 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:53:34 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:53:34 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 07:55:38 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 18 TEXT >I remember a brief discussion about this not too long ago, but I can't >remember if anyone had a definitive answer. Does Smart Tag/Fast Toll >work on a motorcycle? I thought I could put it in my tankbag since it >works by radio transmission. (Although, I'm not sure how powerful it >is) Thanks. My 2 cents worth... My bike - '93 GSX 1100GP - works, but I have to hold the transponder up in the air when I go through the gate. My son ('83 VF750 Interceptor) stuffs it up front in the fairing and it reads nicely. YMMV Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 11:10:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17370; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26890; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA09731; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:10:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A014192502FA; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:08:55 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980317105530.00ed7d70@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:55:30 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: HCS and accident In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:10 AM 3/17/98 -0500, Julie and/or Mark Holm wrote: >Well, I'm not enthused about the litigous society I live in, so I probably >won't sue. But I am planning to write a letter to the manager/owner of >Herdon Cycle Sport, telling him that I think a mistake in the repair is to >blame, and that I'd like the resulting repairs, including coverage of the >broken windshield, covered by his company. I agree completely with your sentiments. I see you believe that people should be responsible for their actions. If the mechanic(s) caused the problem leading to injuries and property damage, and they don't take responsibility, should they be forced to? I admire your common sense and restraint. But if the mechanic(s) were negligent, and they won't take responsiblity for their actions, then I believe you're morally obligated to force them to take responsibility. If they were negligent, you're probably not the first and you're probably not the last. Remember Ford and the exploding gas tank Pintos? Ford made an executive decision that it was cheaper to kill their customers than it was to fix the problem. Their internal memo saying this was the "smoking gun" that lead the jury to fine Ford the amount of money they should have spent to stop killing their customers. Unfortunately, there are people in this world who will do anything they can get away with. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 11:10:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17376; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:10:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26894; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:10:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA09737; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:10:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A018192502FA; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:08:56 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980317110030.00ef8590@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:00:30 -0500 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:28 AM 3/17/98 -0500, Carver, John wrote: >I remember a brief discussion about this not too long ago, but I can't >remember if anyone had a definitive answer. Does Smart Tag/Fast Toll >work on a motorcycle? I thought I could put it in my tankbag since it >works by radio transmission. (Although, I'm not sure how powerful it >is) Thanks. I haven't used one, but I've heard both positive and negative comments for bike use. I think the Smart Tag itself is good enough for the bike - heck, I've seen cars blow through at a self-reported 40mph and the Smart Tag works okay. Some have reported the Smart Tag not working on a bike. I wonder if there's sensors in the road to activate the "Tag reader". These would probably be to keep cars separate (so two cars running together couldn't go through on one Tag). So maybe the cycle doesn't set off the sensor if the cycle isn't in the right position in the road, or is going too fast (I assume the sensors would probably be like traffic light loops in the road). If the sensors were light beams coming from the side, maybe the relative lack of bodywork on a cycle would keep the sensors from reporting a vehicle there. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 11:14:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17444; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:14:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26946; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:13:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA09853; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA28691 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:13:50 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:13:50 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:15:55 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 27 TEXT Hopping firmly on my soapbox... The system works basically like this; As you approach the toll gate, a sensor buried in the road tells the system that a vehicle is approaching the gate. The transmitter/receiver in the gate (the square thing above the lane) sends a pulse to the transponder in/on your vehicle. The reflected pulse is encoded by the transponder (I believe that it's a totally passive device, but can't confirm that) and is read by the receiver, debiting your account and disabling the exit alarm. I am somewhat confused by Fastoll/Smartag's stance on not setting the sensitivity of the approach sensors high enough to sense a motorcycle as they seem to have no problems in setting the sensitivity of the you-haven't-paid-your-toll sensor high enough to read a motorcycle. (I was told by one of the managers when they first started Fastoll that they set the sensitivity low in order to preclude a false reading from a car in an adjacent lane - sounded spurious at the time and still does) Hmmm, I wonder how many of us are AMA members? Michael J > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 11:23:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17586; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:23:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27118; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:22:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10161; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:22:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA00065 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:22:53 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:22:53 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:24:58 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 14 TEXT >So maybe the cycle doesn't set off the sensor if the >cycle isn't in the right position in the road, or is going too fast I need to run down the middle of the lane and have done it at 30MPH+ on the scooter (don't ask about car speeds) >the relative lack of bodywork Ferrous metal is the key - while it will sense aluminun, it prefers iron/steel. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 11:27:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17643; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27197; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10421; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA00737 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:27:13 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:27:13 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'Thomas'" Subject: matter of utmost criticality - warn your friends!!! Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:29:18 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 5 TEXT FWIW http://media.circus.com/~nodhmo/ >VERY well done.... ;-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 11:38:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17806; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27395; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:36:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10686; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A66DBC704F8; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:35:57 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980317112347.00eaf210@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:23:47 -0500 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:49 AM 3/17/98 -0500, Whiteside, John wrote: >People seen to have mixed results. I've used it by waving it in the air as I >go thru -- works but is a pain in the neck, and I find using change easier. >I tried using the mounting strips to put it on my windscreen -- didn't work. >But others have told me this DOES work. My next attempt it going to be >putting it in the clear plastic map pocket of my tank bag. Someone from the >list (I wish I could remember who) told me they have put it on a cycoactive >barpack and it's worked... seems to me the map pocket of the tank bag should >have the same effect. I'm assuming there's a battery in the box, I'm >wondering if mine is just low and that's what's giving me problems. I wonder if the orientation of the Tag is important. When it was on your windshield, was it more or less oriented like it would be in a car? Was it facing the same way? (not stuck to the front of your windshield, when it would be stuck to the back of a car windshield). I wonder if you got a bad tag ... does it work in your car? I think these things are great (except for monitoring your travels). Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 11:38:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17807; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27393; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10688; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A66EBC704F8; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:35:58 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980317112544.00eafcd0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:25:44 -0500 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >My bike - '93 GSX 1100GP - works, but I have to hold the transponder up >in the air when I go through the gate. > >My son ('83 VF750 Interceptor) stuffs it up front in the fairing and it >reads nicely. What differences are there in the bikes and/or your riding styles? Bodywork, mass (weight), lane position? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 11:38:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17816; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27396; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:36:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10691; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A66BBC704F8; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:35:55 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980317112039.00eaed60@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:20:39 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Charging Question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Actually, you said- ">I just think the output of MC alternators just isn't up to supply enough >power >regardless of RPM, unlike a cage." No offense intended, that was just the part I was focusing on. Yes, MC charging systems are not great (why!?). The systems are adequate if you keep everything up, and don't use any extra accessories. When you start adding accessories, you start adding the need to monitor the condition more closely. It's also important to know that low rpm idling will not charge the battery like it does in a car. Charge! Chris Norloff ********************************************************** At 09:34 AM 3/17/98 -0500, Glenn B.Dysart wrote: >I didn't say it doesn't charge, I said it doesn't provide enough power for >the >MC to run on its own (without the battery). Unlike a car where it only uses >the >battery to start the car and for reserve power. This of course excludes >dirt >bikes with magnetos (as someone pointed out). > >Glenn Dysart >dysart@XXXXXX > >84 V30 Magna (with strong battery) > > >>It has to charge. A battery can't last for years in a continual state of >>discharge. > >>Typically the charging system does not put out enough power to run the bike >>or to charge the battery at low rpms. On my bike, the alternator puts out >>enough to just balance the load at about 2,500-3,000 rpm. At 5,000 rpm or >>higher it's charging its max. > >>You can see this by putting a voltmeter across the battery terminals with >>the engine running. Below 13.2 volts the battery is discharging, above >>13.2 the battery is charging (a 12 volt battery is actually 13.2 volts, 2.2 >>volts per each of 6 cells). > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 11:42:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17864; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27475; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10833; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id LAA16304; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma016267; Tue, 17 Mar 98 11:40:33 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:41:11 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:41:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I wondered about lane position... the sensing area is not that wide I guess? I think I've usually been to the left (so I can fling a toll into the basket easily if it doesn't work), maybe that's my problem. John Whiteside Marketing Specialist EIS International Phone: (703) 326-8386 * Fax (703) 787-6720 jwhiteside@XXXXXX http://www.eisi.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Jordan, Michael [SMTP:mike@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 11:25 AM > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles > > >So maybe the cycle doesn't set off the sensor if the > >cycle isn't in the right position in the road, or is going too > fast > > I need to run down the middle of the lane and have done it at 30MPH+ on > the scooter (don't ask about car speeds) > > >the relative lack of bodywork > > Ferrous metal is the key - while it will sense aluminun, it prefers > iron/steel. > > Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 11:46:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17927; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:46:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27558; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:46:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11112; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA11533; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:45:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA20153; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:45:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980317164520.TFOG4928@XXXXXX>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:45:20 -0500 Message-ID: <350EA89F.39A68C61@mci.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:45:19 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julie and/or Mark Holm CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: HCS and accident References: <852565CA.00558AE8.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Julie, Steve Beck suggested: > Good luck in your attempt to get them to do the right thing. You > might want to let them know about our DC-Cycles list and that we > will be either praising them because they made it right, or trashing > them for their incompetence. > If things don't work out, please let us know. I am willing to go up to Herndon Cycle Sport in person (I've been there a couple of times before) and tell the owner that I heard about this incident via DC-Cycles, and tell him how I feel the matter should be handled to your benenfit. (Julie, I'll only do this if you OK it.) I'll also tell him that he might have just lost out on any of my future business as well. Maybe if we get 10-15 people to come in separately and do the same thing, the owner might realize that his actions will have repercussions with more than one customer. Julie, good luck. I wish your husband a speedy recovery, and I sincerely hope that HCS takes care of you. Dale (the Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 11:58:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA18132; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:58:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28277; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11677; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:57:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA00150 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:56:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA06636 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:56:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980317165623.FYSA27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:56:23 -0600 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:55 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: Westerly Route/Report X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980317165623.FYSA27160@[166.41.242.141]> Well, I'll take a stab at the Westerly ride report. First, thanks go to Anita Lauro for suggesting to DC-Cycles they do a ride other that the typical Lorton/Clifton/Fairfax rides we've been doing. Nothing wrong w/these rides, but it was definitely time for a change of pace. Second, we probably should've invited the CAMS along to help us out of the many little mishaps we were having. The ride was researched and written about by Dale Coyner, published in his book "Motorcycle Journeys Through the Appalachians", and nicely plagerized by Anita via photocopy. She had a lot of the copies which were fairly clear and clean to read. Micheal Jordon was volunteered to lead us. Thanks Mike! Once ready to leave, Mike looked at the map, scratched his helmet, looked up and down route 50, and went the wrong way. Hmmm. About a mile and half later, Anita was able to get his attention and we got turned around. So we got to parade through Middleberg twice earning us a very inquisitive twice-over from the local constabulary. Once out the other (east) side of town, it was quickly realised by the ever vigilant Ms. Lauro that we missed our first turn...do'h! Probably a good thing as just then Collin Fagen and John Koh were just coming up the road. So, borrowing some of the really cool CAMS manuevers for motorcycle extrication, we all got turned around again, and finally got on the correct path. >From Middleberg: Left on Earl and Freds road where we picked up 734, Snickersville road Right on 760 for quick jog over to Rt 7. Left on 7 There were a total of 11 bikes that showed for the ride. About half of them scooted out onto rt 7 and were immediately in serious danger of being creamed by some bastard in a pickup who just didn't want to slow down. I thought I was about to witness some very bad ju-ju! The riders: Micheal Jordon Anita Lauro Me Tom ? (on K1200rs) Linda Tanner John Kozyn Karl Rosenbaum John Koh Collin Fagen Tom Gimer Ken Shepard Right on 769 to the Horshoe Curve Resteraunt. I swear, this is a CAMS run! We got maybe 7 miles and were stopping for food. In all fairness, most of the riders that showed are CAMS so that might've had something to do with it. And we started kind of late, so food was welcome reason to stop as well. On our departure, John Kohs' Aprilla Chesterfield decided it didn't want to start. A nice local with a set of jumpers assisted and 15 minutes later (plenty of time to digest the greasy food we just consumed) we were once again on our way. Karl Rosenbaum says goodbye to do some manly chores at home. At this point, we (Mike) has given up on all of Dale Coyners hard work and decides to ride his own ride. We ride his own ride too. Continue on 769 back to 7 Right on 7 We were tooling along route 7 heading towards Winchester at a pretty good clip. I started getting antsy watching Collin popping the front wheel into the air countless times (give the boy a toy, what do you expect), and decided I needed an adrenal fix. I pulled out and was signalling to him I wanted to roll-on against the TL. Probably looked like something else to him, since he wasn't responding. I thought, f-it, and just took off. Well Micheal, who also seemed a little antsy started to give chase and then I saw in the mirrors what looked like a piece of plastic go flying. Mikes magnetic tank bag got airborn. After retrieving the bag we continued. Right on 340 Left onto Kearnysville-VA Line Road (Passes Summit Point RCWAY) Picked up Summit Point Road into Charlestown. Ken Shepard decides to split off for home at this point. Hope some of our antics didn't scare him off. I don't think so considering how he was handling that HD 1200. Right on Rt 9 Left at Bloomery just before Shenendoah River Followed twisty road out to and accross 340 Followed Mike for VERY twisty, bumpy high grins road into Sharpsburg Amoco. Little rest break here to discuss Anitas Dirt road overshoot and the rest of the path we would take towards home 34 to Mechanics St/road for more twists and grins flowing to the potomac river, along the rr trax and back to 340 on the MD side. Left on 340 to Chestnut Hill road. Chestnut Hill to route 9 Left on route 9 to Leesburg where everyone split up and did there own thing. It was a little chilly out, but the nice roads and quick pace made up for the cold. There were a few dicy moments, once where a LEO popped up over a ridge at the exact moment Collin and I decided to bring triple digits down behind a pickup. Very fortunate timing. Thanks again Anita. Let's do this again when it's warmer. Todd +-----------------------------+---------------+ | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | +-----------------------------+---------------+ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 12:02:08 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA18296; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:02:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA28399; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:01:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12109; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:01:53 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA00039 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:02:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199803171702.AA00039@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:02:22 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:02:22 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:02:22 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:59:40 -0500 Subject: Re: HCS and accident To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, holm@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <350EA89F.39A68C61@mci.com> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="Re: HCS and accident"; charset=us-ascii All, Count me in..I live in Herndon and would be happy to express my opinion to the owner/manager.. cheers, -aki > Julie, > > Steve Beck suggested: > > > Good luck in your attempt to get them to do the right thing. You > might want > to let them know about our DC-Cycles list and that we > > will be either praising them because they made it right, or trashing > > them for their incompetence. > > > > If things don't work out, please let us know. I am willing > to go up to Herndon Cycle Sport in person > (I've been there a couple of times before) and tell the owner > that I heard about this incident via DC-Cycles, and tell him > how I feel the matter should be handled to your benenfit. > (Julie, I'll only do this if you OK it.) I'll also tell him > that he might have just lost out on any of my future business > as well. > > Maybe if we get 10-15 people to come in separately and do the > same thing, the owner might realize that his actions > will have repercussions with more than one customer. > > Julie, good luck. I wish your husband a speedy recovery, > and I sincerely hope that HCS takes care of you. > > Dale (the Horkster) > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 12:08:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA18653; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA28625; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12611; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:08:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA29100; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:08:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:08:15 -0500 (EST) From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: aki.damme@XXXXXX cc: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: HCS and accident In-Reply-To: <199803171702.AA00039@egate2.citicorp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 17 Mar 1998 aki.damme@XXXXXX wrote: > All, > > Count me in..I live in Herndon and would be happy to express my > opinion to the owner/manager.. Let me try writing a letter, first. Frankly, I've been doing business with these folks for a number of years, and they have always done a good job and been a good shop for us. They remember us, bend over backwards for us, etc. I'm disappointed that a mistake may have been made, but I understand that it happens. It is very unfortunate that mark was injured so badly as a result of it. Indeed it makes me angry, but Mark is much more calm and understanding about it. I'm going to write and make sure that I point out my opinion on this matter. If they respond positively, and cover my repair, all is well, and we have no problem with them. If they do not respond positively, you will hear about it. Julie From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 12:09:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA18658; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:09:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA28632; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:09:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12625; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:09:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id MAA18897; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:09:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma018878; Tue, 17 Mar 98 12:08:54 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:09:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'Chris Norloff'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:09:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I put the tag the same way it sits in my truck -- on the windscreen, facing me, so it's just like in the truck. I was pretty surprised when it didn't work. So surprised, in fact, that I wound up blowing thru the toll at 15-20 mph and not paying (oops!). So i'm thinking lane position might be the culprit -- it's been a while since I tried it, so I don't remember where I was. Weather report says high of 60 and dry for Friday, so I'm gonna give the map pocket approach a try then (sorry, not as much of a diehard as some of you -- if it's raining, I'm in my truck!). John Whiteside Marketing Specialist EIS International Phone: (703) 326-8386 * Fax (703) 787-6720 jwhiteside@XXXXXX http://www.eisi.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 11:24 AM > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles > > At 10:49 AM 3/17/98 -0500, Whiteside, John wrote: > >People seen to have mixed results. I've used it by waving it in the air > as I > >go thru -- works but is a pain in the neck, and I find using change > easier. > >I tried using the mounting strips to put it on my windscreen -- didn't > work. > >But others have told me this DOES work. My next attempt it going to be > >putting it in the clear plastic map pocket of my tank bag. Someone from > the > >list (I wish I could remember who) told me they have put it on a > cycoactive > >barpack and it's worked... seems to me the map pocket of the tank bag > should > >have the same effect. I'm assuming there's a battery in the box, I'm > >wondering if mine is just low and that's what's giving me problems. > > I wonder if the orientation of the Tag is important. When it was on your > windshield, was it more or less oriented like it would be in a car? Was > it > facing the same way? (not stuck to the front of your windshield, when it > would be stuck to the back of a car windshield). > > I wonder if you got a bad tag ... does it work in your car? > > I think these things are great (except for monitoring your travels). > > Chris Norloff > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 12:12:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA18703; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:12:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA28699; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:12:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12713; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:12:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id MAA19248; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma019208; Tue, 17 Mar 98 12:11:45 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:12:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: HCS and accident Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:12:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It's funny, my office is about 5-10 minutes from HCS, and I've been there once (for accessories not anything for the bike). I wasn't real impressed by what they had in the shop or by the salespeople there. Maybe I hit 'em on a bad day, but I was amazed at how much people hate Coleman, and don't seem to find HCS twice as bad. YMMV.... John Whiteside Marketing Specialist EIS International Phone: (703) 326-8386 * Fax (703) 787-6720 jwhiteside@XXXXXX http://www.eisi.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 11:45 AM > To: Julie and/or Mark Holm > Cc: DC Cycles List > Subject: Re: HCS and accident > > Julie, > > Steve Beck suggested: > > > Good luck in your attempt to get them to do the right thing. You > > might want to let them know about our DC-Cycles list and that we > > will be either praising them because they made it right, or trashing > > them for their incompetence. > > > > If things don't work out, please let us know. I am willing > to go up to Herndon Cycle Sport in person > (I've been there a couple of times before) and tell the owner > that I heard about this incident via DC-Cycles, and tell him > how I feel the matter should be handled to your benenfit. > (Julie, I'll only do this if you OK it.) I'll also tell him > that he might have just lost out on any of my future business > as well. > > Maybe if we get 10-15 people to come in separately and do the > same thing, the owner might realize that his actions > will have repercussions with more than one customer. > > Julie, good luck. I wish your husband a speedy recovery, > and I sincerely hope that HCS takes care of you. > > Dale (the Horkster) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 12:20:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA18990; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA28859; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA13132; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:19:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28350; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:19:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350EB068.5236A322@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:18:32 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julie and/or Mark Holm CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: HCS and accident References: <852565CA.00558AE8.00@goliath.intelsol.com> <350EA89F.39A68C61@mci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What little maintenance I allow a shop to do, I've taken to Cycle Sport Herndon with no problems. However, I'd be happy to voice my support next time I stop in for parts or tire mounting.... If they do you wrong, they'll lose my business. And considering I'll be racing this year, I'm sure I'll be needing lots of $$ worth of parts/accesories or specialty work... Collin Dale Horstman wrote: > Julie, > > Maybe if we get 10-15 people to come in separately and do the > same thing, the owner might realize that his actions > will have repercussions with more than one customer. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 12:30:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA19741; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:30:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA29056; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA14506; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:30:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-219-180.pitb.grid.net [207.205.219.180]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09455; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:30:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980317123131.006af484@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:31:31 -0500 To: aki.damme@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: HCS and accident Cc: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, holm@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199803171702.AA00039@egate2.citicorp.com> References: <350EA89F.39A68C61@mci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm in, too. Being a physician, I deal daily with the destructive effects of the threat of frivolous lawsuits. However, though I can't stop a frivolous suit, it is incumbent upon me to make sure I don't do anything that would warrant a valid suit, and bear that responsibility to my patients. If someone is injured by my actions, it is up to me to make that right. Julie was wronged and, worse still, Mark was injured. If HCS doesn't make that right out of their own sense of responsibility and good business practice, then they deserve what they get. Provided they act appropriately, there should be no need to sue. If they need to be reminded of that, though, again, count me in. Personal visits and an overheating fax machine should make them see the light. We are a unique group here at DC-Cycles - educated, sophisticated, opinionated (I digress) consumers. If we band together we can do much. Maybe a victory here could pull us together to tackle other issues? Harry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 12:40:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA19984; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA29174; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:40:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA14894; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:40:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA12789 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:39:58 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:39:58 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: HCS and accident Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:42:03 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 18 TEXT >We are a unique group here at DC-Cycles In the finest sense of the word >educated of course >sophisticated naturally >opinionated who, me? Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 12:58:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20519; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:58:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA29655; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA15776; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:58:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA15395 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:58:03 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:58:03 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles'" Subject: RE: Westerly Route/Report Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:00:06 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 29 TEXT >>it was quickly realised by the ever vigilant Ms. Lauro >>that we missed our first turn...do'h! Probably a good thing as just >>then Collin Fagen and John Koh were just coming up the road. > >I knew they were coming, I just wanted to warm my tires up a little... >uh, huh - yup - sounds good > >>I swear, this is a CAMS run! We got maybe 7 miles and were stopping for >>food > >I seem to remember some guy on a black ST1100 mumbling about lunch at the >Middleburg Exxon... > >>At this point, we (Mike) has given up on all of Dale Coyners hard work >>and decides to ride his own ride. We ride his own ride too. > >Not quite - it wasn't until Charles Town that I lost it totally again - we >actually followed Dale's route for a few miles (I apologise - it won't happen >again) > >>Mikes magnetic tank bag got airborn. > >'Twas my new helmet's fault - my old Shoei bobbled so much that I couldn't >get up enough speed to unstick the tankbag. New helmet doesn't bobble... > >Thanks for the recap, Todd > >Michael (follow me) Jordan > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 12:58:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20537; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA29667; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA15794; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:58:46 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:01:14 -0500 Received: from WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL [160.151.107.198] by dclink.com with smtp id ANAADDAL ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:00:54 -0500 Reply-To: "Jay" From: "Jay" To: Cc: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Re: HCS and accident Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:03:22 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd51ce$f9d8f4e0$c66b97a0@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Excellent plan Harry. Julie, let the group know if action is necessary. Being nice is one thing, being taken advantage of by a business is another. Jay -----Original Message----- From: hgg@XXXXXX To: Jaynik Date: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 12:50 PM Subject: Re: HCS and accident > > I'm in, too. > Being a physician, I deal daily with the destructive effects of the >threat of frivolous lawsuits. However, though I can't stop a frivolous >suit, it is incumbent upon me to make sure I don't do anything that would >warrant a valid suit, and bear that responsibility to my patients. If >someone is injured by my actions, it is up to me to make that right. > Julie was wronged and, worse still, Mark was injured. If HCS doesn't >make that right out of their own sense of responsibility and good business >practice, then they deserve what they get. Provided they act >appropriately, there should be no need to sue. > If they need to be reminded of that, though, again, count me in. >Personal visits and an overheating fax machine should make them see the >light. We are a unique group here at DC-Cycles - educated, sophisticated, >opinionated (I digress) consumers. If we band together we can do much. >Maybe a victory here could pull us together to tackle other issues? > >Harry > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 13:28:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21153; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:28:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA00306; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:28:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA16850; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:28:03 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA05057 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:28:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199803171828.AA05057@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:28:31 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:28:31 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:28:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:26:39 -0500 Subject: Re: HCS and accident To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="Re: HCS and accident"; charset=us-ascii I've also been doing business with them for the past 6-7 years and have (until the past couple) been impressed with their service. However last summer I started noticing that their attention to detail has slipped badly. I'm not sure if it's because they have more work than mechanics or what. But I've also noticed the past couple of years that they seem to be *really* picky about passing the safety inspections (they failed me once because I had a "discolored" fork brace! And the following year they tried to fail me because I "didn't remember exactly when I had the brake pads replaced", even through there was probably 75% of the pads left!). I think, like alot of "once small" shops, they've outgrown their capacity to handle all the customers they have and because of this, they've replaced "quality" for "quantity". I'll wait until I hear from you on what to do next! cheers, -aki > > > On Tue, 17 Mar 1998 aki.damme@XXXXXX wrote: > > > All, > > > > Count me in..I live in Herndon and would be happy to express my > > opinion to the owner/manager.. > > Let me try writing a letter, first. Frankly, I've been doing business > with these folks for a number of years, and they have always done a good > job and been a good shop for us. They remember us, bend over backwards > for us, etc. > > I'm disappointed that a mistake may have been made, but I understand that > it happens. It is very unfortunate that mark was injured so badly as a > result of it. Indeed it makes me angry, but Mark is much more calm and > understanding about it. > > I'm going to write and make sure that I point out my opinion on this > matter. If they respond positively, and cover my repair, all is well, and > we have no problem with them. > > If they do not respond positively, you will hear about it. > > Julie > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 13:32:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21255; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:32:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA00392; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA16997; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:32:32 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA05627 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:33:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199803171833.AA05627@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:33:02 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:33:02 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:33:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:30:24 -0500 Subject: Weather..was RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="Weather..was RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles"; charset=us-ascii Incidently, for any of you coming from Wash/Maryland to the Reston area...it's freezing rain/snowing/hailing 'round these here parts. Not coming down hard but it's steady and the freezing rain/hail (albeit small) is coming down pretty steady. PLEASE BE CAREFUL out there! The roads are getting slick and the cagers are going into turbo wierdo mode. Hopefully it'll all blow over before everyone has to go home but it's pretty overcast and cool outside right now. Expect delays on the commute home.. cheers, -aki > I put the tag the same way it sits in my truck -- on the windscreen, facing > me, so it's just like in the truck. I was pretty surprised when it didn't > work. So surprised, in fact, that I wound up blowing thru the toll at 15-20 > mph and not paying (oops!). So i'm thinking lane position might be the > culprit -- it's been a while since I tried it, so I don't remember where I > was. > > Weather report says high of 60 and dry for Friday, so I'm gonna give the map > pocket approach a try then (sorry, not as much of a diehard as some of you > -- if it's raining, I'm in my truck!). > > John Whiteside > Marketing Specialist > EIS International > Phone: (703) 326-8386 * Fax (703) 787-6720 > jwhiteside@XXXXXX > http://www.eisi.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 11:24 AM > > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles > > > > At 10:49 AM 3/17/98 -0500, Whiteside, John wrote: > > >People seen to have mixed results. I've used it by waving it in the air > > as I > > >go thru -- works but is a pain in the neck, and I find using change > > easier. > > >I tried using the mounting strips to put it on my windscreen -- didn't > > work. > > >But others have told me this DOES work. My next attempt it going to be > > >putting it in the clear plastic map pocket of my tank bag. Someone from > > the > > >list (I wish I could remember who) told me they have put it on a > > cycoactive > > >barpack and it's worked... seems to me the map pocket of the tank bag > > should > > >have the same effect. I'm assuming there's a battery in the box, I'm > > >wondering if mine is just low and that's what's giving me problems. > > > > I wonder if the orientation of the Tag is important. When it was on your > > windshield, was it more or less oriented like it would be in a car? Was > > it > > facing the same way? (not stuck to the front of your windshield, when it > > would be stuck to the back of a car windshield). > > > > I wonder if you got a bad tag ... does it work in your car? > > > > I think these things are great (except for monitoring your travels). > > > > Chris Norloff > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 13:46:09 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21536; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:46:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA00691; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA17433; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:45:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id NAA08258; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA09021; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:45:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980317184507.USHS4928@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:45:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:44 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: "Jordan, Michael" CC: "'dc-cycles'" Subject: RE: Westerly Route/Report X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980317184507.USHS4928@[166.41.242.141]> If I failed to mention it, the fact that we didn't quite follow the intended route took nothing away from a really fun day. Mike led us on some pretty challenging and scenic bi-ways that will be even more fun when the wx cheers up a little. fwiw, it's definitely more fun to follow than lead sometimes. Thanks again Mike. Todd Michael Jordon wrote: >>At this point, we (Mike) has given up on all of Dale Coyners hard work >>and decides to ride his own ride. We ride his own ride too. > >Not quite - it wasn't until Charles Town that I lost it totally again - we >actually followed Dale's route for a few miles (I apologise - it won't happen >again) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 13:47:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21558; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA00736; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:47:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA17479; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA23005 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:47:02 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:47:02 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Weather..was RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:49:06 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 7 TEXT >Incidently, for any of you coming from Wash/Maryland to the Reston >area...it's freezing rain/snowing/hailing 'round these here parts. A few random flakes (no, not me) in the Tyson's area, too Michael J. >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 13:51:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21648; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA00933; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:51:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA17618; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A6028BA05E6; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:50:42 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980317130039.00f34990@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:00:39 -0500 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:24 AM 3/17/98 -0800, Jordan, Michael wrote: >>So maybe the cycle doesn't set off the sensor if the > >cycle isn't in the right position in the road, or is going too >fast > >I need to run down the middle of the lane and have done it at 30MPH+ on >the scooter (don't ask about car speeds) > >>the relative lack of bodywork > >Ferrous metal is the key - while it will sense aluminun, it prefers >iron/steel. Hmmm ... then why does it work with your son's 750 and not your 1100? Hope it doesn't sound like I'm beating it to death here, I have never used the system but like the idea. And I find it frustrating that, yet again, motorcyclists seem to be getting the short end of the deal. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 14:12:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA22213; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:12:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA01510; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:11:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA18695; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:11:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12777 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:11:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350ECAAC.A9CEDDA6@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:10:36 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: HCS and accident References: <199803171828.AA05057@egate2.citicorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Their old parts guy (I forget his name..mustache..hippy era age, former air force medic) used to be really good. Very knowledgeable and always willing to help out and just as happy to shoot the breeze. Sometime last summer, I went in and some high school kid was behind the counter who didn't know his head from the other end.... kept trying to insist that the katana spark plugs were the ones for my gixer... It took showing him the old ones and telling him "I don't care what your little sheet of paper says, these are what I want" to get the right ones... manager happened to walk up and said..yep those are the right ones... Now when I go in, I no longer rely on letting them look at a parts fiche, I look up what parts I need using the fische reader at work and I call in my parts list, show up, check the numbers to the parts in the bag, pay and leave. John in the service department is pretty skilled and knowledgeable; however, last time I was in ( a couple of months ago) I noticed a lot of high school age (or just out) guys in there working with him.. I haven't bought any bikes from em, but the once or twice that I've actually looked around, their salesmen were less than impressive. aki.damme@XXXXXX wrote: > I've also been doing business with them for the past 6-7 years and > have (until the past couple) been impressed with their service. > > However last summer I started noticing that their attention to > detail has slipped badly. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 14:24:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA22502; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA01963; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA19203; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:24:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA28757 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:24:13 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:24:13 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:26:15 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 15 TEXT >Hmmm ... then why does it work with your son's 750 and not your 1100? The only thing that I can think of is that when it's in my tankbag, the gas tank masks the transponder - in the fairing of his VF, there isn't that mass of sheet metal immediately behind the transponder. It's a minor thing to pull the transponder out of the tankbag pocket and hold it inna air - LOTS less grief than the stop-take off glove-fish for change-put on glove-go drill I have a coin dispenser that clamps on the handlebars - it eliminated the glove drill, but still had the stop and go bit. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 14:52:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA23479; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02298; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA20790; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id OAA09207 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA28777 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:51:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980317195129.VNKV4928@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:51:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:50 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980317195129.VNKV4928@[166.41.242.141]> Remember now Michael that your tank bag has a small magnetic field around it. Could *that* be what is interferring with the transponder? Todd >Hmmm ... then why does it work with your son's 750 and not your 1100? The only thing that I can think of is that when it's in my tankbag, the gas tank masks the transponder - in the fairing of his VF, there isn't that mass of sheet metal immediately behind the transponder. It's a minor thing to pull the transponder out of the tankbag pocket and hold it inna air - LOTS less grief than the stop-take off glove-fish for change-put on glove-go drill I have a coin dispenser that clamps on the handlebars - it eliminated the glove drill, but still had the stop and go bit. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 15:15:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23940; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:14:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03096; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:14:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21646; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id PAA09025; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:14:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma008929; Tue, 17 Mar 98 15:14:02 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:14:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Weather..was RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:14:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Freezing rain in Reston? Weird, it's not doing that in Herndon.... --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: aki.damme@XXXXXX [SMTP:aki.damme@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 1:30 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Weather..was RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles > > > Incidently, for any of you coming from Wash/Maryland to the Reston > area...it's freezing rain/snowing/hailing 'round these here parts. > > Not coming down hard but it's steady and the freezing rain/hail > (albeit small) is coming down pretty steady. PLEASE BE CAREFUL > out there! The roads are getting slick and the cagers are going > into turbo wierdo mode. > > Hopefully it'll all blow over before everyone has to go home but > it's pretty overcast and cool outside right now. > > Expect delays on the commute home.. > > cheers, > -aki > > > > I put the tag the same way it sits in my truck -- on the windscreen, > facing > > me, so it's just like in the truck. I was pretty surprised when it > didn't > > work. So surprised, in fact, that I wound up blowing thru the toll at > 15-20 > > mph and not paying (oops!). So i'm thinking lane position might be the > > culprit -- it's been a while since I tried it, so I don't remember > where I > > was. > > > > Weather report says high of 60 and dry for Friday, so I'm gonna give > the map > > pocket approach a try then (sorry, not as much of a diehard as some of > you > > -- if it's raining, I'm in my truck!). > > > > John Whiteside > > Marketing Specialist > > EIS International > > Phone: (703) 326-8386 * Fax (703) 787-6720 > > jwhiteside@XXXXXX > > http://www.eisi.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 11:24 AM > > > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > > Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles > > > > > > At 10:49 AM 3/17/98 -0500, Whiteside, John wrote: > > > >People seen to have mixed results. I've used it by waving it in the > air > > > as I > > > >go thru -- works but is a pain in the neck, and I find using change > > > easier. > > > >I tried using the mounting strips to put it on my windscreen -- > didn't > > > work. > > > >But others have told me this DOES work. My next attempt it going to > be > > > >putting it in the clear plastic map pocket of my tank bag. Someone > from > > > the > > > >list (I wish I could remember who) told me they have put it on a > > > cycoactive > > > >barpack and it's worked... seems to me the map pocket of the tank > bag > > > should > > > >have the same effect. I'm assuming there's a battery in the box, I'm > > > >wondering if mine is just low and that's what's giving me problems. > > > > > > I wonder if the orientation of the Tag is important. When it was on > your > > > windshield, was it more or less oriented like it would be in a car? > Was > > > it > > > facing the same way? (not stuck to the front of your windshield, when > it > > > would be stuck to the back of a car windshield). > > > > > > I wonder if you got a bad tag ... does it work in your car? > > > > > > I think these things are great (except for monitoring your travels). > > > > > > Chris Norloff > > > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 15:16:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23965; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:16:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03107; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:16:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21693; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id PAA09155; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:16:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma009136; Tue, 17 Mar 98 15:15:47 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:16:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: HCS and accident Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:16:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain I finally got my bike inspected (6 weeks after moving to Virginia, oops!) this past weekend. When I got to the front of the line the inspection guy said, "I don't know anything about bikes... what am I supposed to check?" Well heck, I don't know what Virginia wants to know. I ran him through the lights & horn & got my sticker. --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: aki.damme@XXXXXX [SMTP:aki.damme@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 1:27 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: HCS and accident > > I've also been doing business with them for the past 6-7 years and > have (until the past couple) been impressed with their service. > > However last summer I started noticing that their attention to > detail has slipped badly. I'm not sure if it's because they have > more work than mechanics or what. But I've also noticed the past > couple of years that they seem to be *really* picky about passing > the safety inspections (they failed me once because I had a "discolored" > fork brace! And the following year they tried to fail me because > I "didn't remember exactly when I had the brake pads replaced", even > through there was probably 75% of the pads left!). > > I think, like alot of "once small" shops, they've outgrown their > capacity to handle all the customers they have and because of this, > they've replaced "quality" for "quantity". > > I'll wait until I hear from you on what to do next! > > cheers, > -aki > > > > > > > On Tue, 17 Mar 1998 aki.damme@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > > All, > > > > > > Count me in..I live in Herndon and would be happy to express my > > > opinion to the owner/manager.. > > > > Let me try writing a letter, first. Frankly, I've been doing business > > with these folks for a number of years, and they have always done a > good > > job and been a good shop for us. They remember us, bend over backwards > > for us, etc. > > > > I'm disappointed that a mistake may have been made, but I understand > that > > it happens. It is very unfortunate that mark was injured so badly as a > > result of it. Indeed it makes me angry, but Mark is much more calm and > > understanding about it. > > > > I'm going to write and make sure that I point out my opinion on this > > matter. If they respond positively, and cover my repair, all is well, > and > > we have no problem with them. > > > > If they do not respond positively, you will hear about it. > > > > Julie > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 15:32:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA24348; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03301; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:32:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22344; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:32:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD51B9.A21FBAF0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:30:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: HCS and accident Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:30:35 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 77 TEXT Quick! Where was this? Just in case I need to get a bike inspected that isn't neccessarily up to par - (like Dale's POS) Tracy ---------- From: Whiteside, John[SMTP:jwhiteside@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 3:16 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: HCS and accident I finally got my bike inspected (6 weeks after moving to Virginia, oops!) this past weekend. When I got to the front of the line the inspection guy said, "I don't know anything about bikes... what am I supposed to check?" Well heck, I don't know what Virginia wants to know. I ran him through the lights & horn & got my sticker. --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: aki.damme@XXXXXX [SMTP:aki.damme@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 1:27 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: HCS and accident > > I've also been doing business with them for the past 6-7 years and > have (until the past couple) been impressed with their service. > > However last summer I started noticing that their attention to > detail has slipped badly. I'm not sure if it's because they have > more work than mechanics or what. But I've also noticed the past > couple of years that they seem to be *really* picky about passing > the safety inspections (they failed me once because I had a "discolored" > fork brace! And the following year they tried to fail me because > I "didn't remember exactly when I had the brake pads replaced", even > through there was probably 75% of the pads left!). > > I think, like alot of "once small" shops, they've outgrown their > capacity to handle all the customers they have and because of this, > they've replaced "quality" for "quantity". > > I'll wait until I hear from you on what to do next! > > cheers, > -aki > > > > > > > On Tue, 17 Mar 1998 aki.damme@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > > All, > > > > > > Count me in..I live in Herndon and would be happy to express my > > > opinion to the owner/manager.. > > > > Let me try writing a letter, first. Frankly, I've been doing business > > with these folks for a number of years, and they have always done a > good > > job and been a good shop for us. They remember us, bend over backwards > > for us, etc. > > > > I'm disappointed that a mistake may have been made, but I understand > that > > it happens. It is very unfortunate that mark was injured so badly as a > > result of it. Indeed it makes me angry, but Mark is much more calm and > > understanding about it. > > > > I'm going to write and make sure that I point out my opinion on this > > matter. If they respond positively, and cover my repair, all is well, > and > > we have no problem with them. > > > > If they do not respond positively, you will hear about it. > > > > Julie > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 15:43:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA24685; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03545; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:43:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22962; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:43:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA08532 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:43:04 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:43:04 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:45:09 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 7 TEXT >Remember now Michael that your tank bag has a small magnetic field >around it. Could *that* be what is interferring with the transponder? Nope - wouldn't read from my Bagster (non-magnetic) tankbag either It may be just a case of technology being perverse. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 15:52:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA24954; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03633; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23341; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:51:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD51BB.B5194BB0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:45:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Whiteside, John'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: HCS and accident Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:45:26 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My bikes(the last four) have gone through inspection without ever really being looked at. If the bike had tread on the tires, all of it's lights, and a horn it passed. -Tom '86 VFR750 >-----Original Message----- >From: Whiteside, John [SMTP:jwhiteside@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 3:16 PM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: HCS and accident > >I finally got my bike inspected (6 weeks after moving to Virginia, oops!) >this past weekend. When I got to the front of the line the inspection guy >said, "I don't know anything about bikes... what am I supposed to check?" >Well heck, I don't know what Virginia wants to know. I ran him through the >lights & horn & got my sticker. > >--John Whiteside > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aki.damme@XXXXXX [SMTP:aki.damme@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 1:27 PM >> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: Re: HCS and accident >> >> I've also been doing business with them for the past 6-7 years and >> have (until the past couple) been impressed with their service. >> >> However last summer I started noticing that their attention to >> detail has slipped badly. I'm not sure if it's because they have >> more work than mechanics or what. But I've also noticed the past >> couple of years that they seem to be *really* picky about passing >> the safety inspections (they failed me once because I had a "discolored" >> fork brace! And the following year they tried to fail me because >> I "didn't remember exactly when I had the brake pads replaced", even >> through there was probably 75% of the pads left!). >> >> I think, like alot of "once small" shops, they've outgrown their >> capacity to handle all the customers they have and because of this, >> they've replaced "quality" for "quantity". >> >> I'll wait until I hear from you on what to do next! >> >> cheers, >> -aki >> >> > >> > >> > On Tue, 17 Mar 1998 aki.damme@XXXXXX wrote: >> > >> > > All, >> > > >> > > Count me in..I live in Herndon and would be happy to express my >> > > opinion to the owner/manager.. >> > >> > Let me try writing a letter, first. Frankly, I've been doing business >> > with these folks for a number of years, and they have always done a >> good >> > job and been a good shop for us. They remember us, bend over backwards >> > for us, etc. >> > >> > I'm disappointed that a mistake may have been made, but I understand >> that >> > it happens. It is very unfortunate that mark was injured so badly as a >> > result of it. Indeed it makes me angry, but Mark is much more calm and >> > understanding about it. >> > >> > I'm going to write and make sure that I point out my opinion on this >> > matter. If they respond positively, and cover my repair, all is well, >> and >> > we have no problem with them. >> > >> > If they do not respond positively, you will hear about it. >> > >> > Julie >> > >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 15:54:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA25000; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:54:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03660; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23380; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:53:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com (oak.eainet.com [206.136.246.2]) by oak.eainet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA18107 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:53:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:53:07 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hartzler To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: VA Inspection [was: HCS and accident] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John -- I also just got my bike inspected. I guess any ol' inspection station can legally inspect a bike in VA... My inspector checked: lights; high/low, brake, signals horn, tire tread (I imagine) brake pads I don't know what else his eye might have gone over, but he didn't seem too hypercritical... I think the detail of inspection varies considerably, just as for cars. In any case, hopefully the rider's frequent inspections will surpass any once a year state inspection, eh? -ph On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Whiteside, John wrote: > I finally got my bike inspected (6 weeks after moving to Virginia, oops!) > this past weekend. When I got to the front of the line the inspection guy > said, "I don't know anything about bikes... what am I supposed to check?" > Well heck, I don't know what Virginia wants to know. I ran him through the > lights & horn & got my sticker. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 16:15:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA29151; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:15:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA03971; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:14:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA29033; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:14:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA01182; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:14:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA18821; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:14:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980317211406.CHSI27632@XXXXXX>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:14:06 -0600 Message-ID: <350EE7A3.9008BA07@mci.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:14:11 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Zell , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Bike Inspections References: <350EE746.51815302@mci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, and they should only charge you $5 in Virginia for the safety inspection. So bikers do get a break. Hork Dale Horstman wrote: > > I actually had a car place flunk Tracy's > Suzuki Savage when we bought it, because > the front brake pads were worn down too > much. I bought and installed new ones > and had it reinspected the same day. BTW, > the new pads were pretty skinny themselves. > > Oh, and I got the pads in stock at HCS. > > Dale (the Horkster) > > "They all look rough, but they passed inspection." > > Tom Zell wrote: > > > > My bikes(the last four) have gone through inspection without ever really > > being looked at. If the bike had tread on the tires, all of it's > > lights, and a horn it passed. > > > > - From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 16:18:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA29314; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:18:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA04006; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:18:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA29415; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:18:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-112-214.s214.tnt4.ann.erols.com [207.172.112.214]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29811; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:18:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350EE8C1.4EE998BA@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:18:58 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Hartzler CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: VA Inspection [was: HCS and accident] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You'll often find that a bike shop will be much more sensitive on the annual inspections. A lot of them will get real nit picky on things in the hopes that you'll have them fix them at the $55/hour shop rate. Personally I agree with Pete, my own inspections are trusted far more than any done by the shops inspectors...granted I have been known to abuse tire tread life a bit past "too worn" before :) Thank goodness I don't have to deal with annual inspections!! mwahahaha...laughing in jest at you VA/MD residents and the nitpicky little laws you have to meet and high taxes you have to pay :) CT -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 16:21:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA29396; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA04056; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:21:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA29513; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:21:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id QAA14872; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma014862; Tue, 17 Mar 98 16:21:19 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:21:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: VA Inspection [was: HCS and accident] Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:21:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Exactly, I wasn't exactly counting on the state of Virginia to guard my safety! --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Hartzler [SMTP:ph@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 3:53 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: VA Inspection [was: HCS and accident] > > John -- > > I also just got my bike inspected. I guess any ol' inspection station can > legally inspect a bike in VA... My inspector checked: > > lights; high/low, brake, signals > horn, > tire tread (I imagine) > brake pads > > I don't know what else his eye might have gone over, but he didn't seem > too hypercritical... > > I think the detail of inspection varies considerably, just as for cars. > In any case, hopefully the rider's frequent inspections will surpass any > once a year state inspection, eh? > > -ph > > On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Whiteside, John wrote: > > > I finally got my bike inspected (6 weeks after moving to Virginia, > oops!) > > this past weekend. When I got to the front of the line the inspection > guy > > said, "I don't know anything about bikes... what am I supposed to > check?" > > Well heck, I don't know what Virginia wants to know. I ran him through > the > > lights & horn & got my sticker. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 16:25:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA29492; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:25:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA04103; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA29617; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-190.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.190]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA10334; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:24:28 -0500 Message-ID: <350EE9D1.FBB53145@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:23:30 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan, Michael" CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If this is indeed the problem, then the solution is to bring it to their attention. Isn't there a sign that indicates the speed at which you are supposed to go through this thing? If so, ride at exactly that speed, with the transponder in plain sight on the bike and follow their instructions exactly. Let the alarm go off a few times. After about the 5th time or so, they'll get to know you and will fix the problem. If you have paid for the device, it's their responsibility to make sure it works. Of course it could backfire and they won't let bikes use them at all. Leon. Jordan, Michael wrote: > Hopping firmly on my soapbox... > > The system works basically like this; > > As you approach the toll gate, a sensor buried in the road tells the > system that a vehicle is approaching the gate. The transmitter/receiver > in the gate (the square thing above the lane) sends a pulse to the > transponder in/on your vehicle. > > The reflected pulse is encoded by the transponder (I believe that it's a > totally passive device, but can't confirm that) and is read by the > receiver, debiting your account and disabling the exit alarm. > > I am somewhat confused by Fastoll/Smartag's stance on not setting the > sensitivity of the approach sensors high enough to sense a motorcycle as > they seem to have no problems in setting the sensitivity of the > you-haven't-paid-your-toll sensor high enough to read a motorcycle. > > (I was told by one of the managers when they first started Fastoll that > they set the sensitivity low in order to preclude a false reading from a > car in an adjacent lane - sounded spurious at the time and still does) > > Hmmm, I wonder how many of us are AMA members? > > Michael J > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 16:49:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA29998; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA04486; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:49:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA00474; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:49:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA17149 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:49:00 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:49:00 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:51:03 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 26 TEXT >If this is indeed the problem, then the solution is to bring it to their >attention. Isn't there a sign that indicates the speed at which you are >supposed to go through this thing? If so, ride at exactly that speed, with >the transponder in plain sight on the bike and follow their instructions >exactly. Let the alarm go off a few times. After about the 5th time or so, >they'll get to know you and will fix the problem. If you have paid for the >device, it's their responsibility to make sure it works. Of course it could >backfire and they won't let bikes use them at all. Leon, The only problem with this strategy is that they (Fastoll) do not certify their system for motorcycles and WILL NOT (I tried) provide a transponder for a motorcycle. The unit that I use for my bike is issued for my minivan. If one follows their instructions exactly, one will not be using the device on one's bike. The only viable course of action I see at this time is a class action discrimination suit. I (personally) have neither the time nor funds to undertake this. Michael J. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 16:54:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA00065; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:54:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA04523; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA00641; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:53:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id QAA17772; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:53:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma017756; Tue, 17 Mar 98 16:53:08 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:53:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:53:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Their lit says that the system works only for passenger cars and trucks with the transponder installed according to their directions. So, I imagine their response would be, "It's not our problem, we told you it doesn't work on motorcycles (or any other nonstandard vehicle)." Another toll road question: anyone heard whether the HOV lanes opening on it later this year will be open to bikes? John Whiteside Marketing Specialist EIS International Phone: (703) 326-8386 * Fax (703) 787-6720 jwhiteside@XXXXXX http://www.eisi.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 4:24 PM > To: Jordan, Michael > Cc: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: Re: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles > > If this is indeed the problem, then the solution is to bring it to their > attention. Isn't there a sign that indicates the speed at which you are > supposed to go through this thing? If so, ride at exactly that speed, > with > the transponder in plain sight on the bike and follow their instructions > exactly. Let the alarm go off a few times. After about the 5th time or > so, > they'll get to know you and will fix the problem. If you have paid for > the > device, it's their responsibility to make sure it works. Of course it > could > backfire and they won't let bikes use them at all. > > Leon. > > Jordan, Michael wrote: > > > Hopping firmly on my soapbox... > > > > The system works basically like this; > > > > As you approach the toll gate, a sensor buried in the road tells the > > system that a vehicle is approaching the gate. The transmitter/receiver > > in the gate (the square thing above the lane) sends a pulse to the > > transponder in/on your vehicle. > > > > The reflected pulse is encoded by the transponder (I believe that it's a > > totally passive device, but can't confirm that) and is read by the > > receiver, debiting your account and disabling the exit alarm. > > > > I am somewhat confused by Fastoll/Smartag's stance on not setting the > > sensitivity of the approach sensors high enough to sense a motorcycle as > > they seem to have no problems in setting the sensitivity of the > > you-haven't-paid-your-toll sensor high enough to read a motorcycle. > > > > (I was told by one of the managers when they first started Fastoll that > > they set the sensitivity low in order to preclude a false reading from a > > car in an adjacent lane - sounded spurious at the time and still does) > > > > Hmmm, I wonder how many of us are AMA members? > > > > Michael J > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 17:13:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00450; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA04797; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:12:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA01271; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id RAA01229; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:11:23 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA79@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Whiteside, John'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:11:49 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I thought HOV always had to be open to motorcycles...at least around here. Is that not true? - Jeannette > Another toll road question: anyone heard whether the HOV lanes opening > on it > later this year will be open to bikes? > > John Whiteside > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 17:25:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00689; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:25:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA05183; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA01615; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:25:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id RAA20323; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:25:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma020276; Tue, 17 Mar 98 17:24:45 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:25:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Smart Tag Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:25:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Hey all -- I just wrote a note to the Smart Tag people asking them what their plans to make the system work with bikes are, pointing out that in NY bikes get discounts, and in a pleasant way suggesting that it's in their best interest to make this work for motorcyclists. It might be more effective if other toll road commuters did the same... the address is fastoll@XXXXXX. I'll share the response, if any.... --John Whiteside From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 17:30:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00781; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA05301; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA01753; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:30:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-190.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.190]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA12249; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:30:36 -0500 Message-ID: <350EF953.2CF21845@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:29:39 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Whiteside, John" CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Section 33.1-46.2 of Virginia Code states in part "(N)o designation of any lane or lanes of any highway as HOV lanes shall apply to the use of any such lanes by: "1. Emergency vehicles such as fire-fighting vehicles, ambulances, and rescue squad vehicles, "2. Law-enforcement vehicles, "3. Motorcycles, "4. Vehicles of public utility companies operating in response to an emergency call, or "5. Until July 1, 1999, vehicles bearing clean special fuel vehicle license plates issued pursuant to §46.2-749.3." If the lanes are subject to Virginia law and are called HOV lanes, motorcycles may use them. Leon. Whiteside, John wrote: > Their lit says that the system works only for passenger cars and trucks with > the transponder installed according to their directions. So, I imagine their > response would be, "It's not our problem, we told you it doesn't work on > motorcycles (or any other nonstandard vehicle)." > > Another toll road question: anyone heard whether the HOV lanes opening on it > later this year will be open to bikes? > > John Whiteside > Marketing Specialist > EIS International > Phone: (703) 326-8386 * Fax (703) 787-6720 > jwhiteside@XXXXXX > http://www.eisi.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 4:24 PM > > To: Jordan, Michael > > Cc: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > Subject: Re: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles > > > > If this is indeed the problem, then the solution is to bring it to their > > attention. Isn't there a sign that indicates the speed at which you are > > supposed to go through this thing? If so, ride at exactly that speed, > > with > > the transponder in plain sight on the bike and follow their instructions > > exactly. Let the alarm go off a few times. After about the 5th time or > > so, > > they'll get to know you and will fix the problem. If you have paid for > > the > > device, it's their responsibility to make sure it works. Of course it > > could > > backfire and they won't let bikes use them at all. > > > > Leon. > > > > Jordan, Michael wrote: > > > > > Hopping firmly on my soapbox... > > > > > > The system works basically like this; > > > > > > As you approach the toll gate, a sensor buried in the road tells the > > > system that a vehicle is approaching the gate. The transmitter/receiver > > > in the gate (the square thing above the lane) sends a pulse to the > > > transponder in/on your vehicle. > > > > > > The reflected pulse is encoded by the transponder (I believe that it's a > > > totally passive device, but can't confirm that) and is read by the > > > receiver, debiting your account and disabling the exit alarm. > > > > > > I am somewhat confused by Fastoll/Smartag's stance on not setting the > > > sensitivity of the approach sensors high enough to sense a motorcycle as > > > they seem to have no problems in setting the sensitivity of the > > > you-haven't-paid-your-toll sensor high enough to read a motorcycle. > > > > > > (I was told by one of the managers when they first started Fastoll that > > > they set the sensitivity low in order to preclude a false reading from a > > > car in an adjacent lane - sounded spurious at the time and still does) > > > > > > Hmmm, I wonder how many of us are AMA members? > > > > > > Michael J > > > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 17:36:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00871; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA05401; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:36:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA01891; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:36:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA29306; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:35:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv3-11.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.75) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma029278; Tue Mar 17 16:35:52 1998 Message-ID: <350E8DC8.3346@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 06:50:48 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Todd Peer Subject: Re: Westerly Route/Report References: <19980317165623.FYSA27160@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Peer wrote: > > Ken Shepard decides to split off for home at this point. Hope some > of our antics didn't scare him off. I don't think so considering how > he was handling that HD 1200. Hehe, nah, you didnt scare me off, but I was getting tired, Its more work keeping that thing going on the twisties ;).... Anyway , had a great time, cant wait to do it again. ( Had to ride home though and reattach a turn signal that was vibratinmg loose, I know here come the HD jokes ;). > -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 17:53:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA01083; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA05708; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA02319; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:53:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-190.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.190]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA12909; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:53:27 -0500 Message-ID: <350EFEAA.23B153AA@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:52:27 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , dc-cycles Subject: HOV lanes & Motorcycles, was FasToll References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA79@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Short answer, no, motorcycles have not always been allowed in Virginia HOV lanes. I rode the slow lanes alongside HOV lanes for more than 4 years. The federal government started all this back when they first started giving extra money to states for HOV lanes. Back then, the rule was that they could allow motorcycles to use them. Most states allowed motorcycles in their HOV lanes, Virginia did not. When George Bush was president, a new version of the act changed the rules so that states had to allow motorcycles unless they went through a long procedure to exclude them. Virginia initially tried to ignore the change. The AMA, ABATE and VCOM (not necessarily in that order) went to work to change Virginia's policy. Under Gov. Wilder, the policy was that only vehicles with the requisite number of people (and emergency/law enforcement vehicles) were allowed to use the lanes. Under duress, they commissioned a study whose charter was to identify the safety hazards that motorcycles posed in these lanes so that the federal requirement for excluding them could be met. Motorcycles were allowed to use the HOV lanes while this study was on going. At the end of the two year study period, the results were that motorcycles were approximately 7 times more likely to be in an accident on any road that paralled HOV lanes than in the HOV lanes themselves. The Wilder administration was very reluctant to publish the results of the study, but did extend the period that motorcycles were allowed in the lanes. The current law that puts motorcycles in the same category as the emergency vehicles was passed shortly (within 2 years) after Gov. Allen took office. Leon O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > I thought HOV always had to be open to motorcycles...at least around > here. Is that not true? > > - Jeannette > > > Another toll road question: anyone heard whether the HOV lanes opening > > on it > > later this year will be open to bikes? > > > > John Whiteside > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 18:17:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA01539; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:17:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA05885; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:17:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA02991; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:17:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA00508 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:17:26 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:17:26 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Westerly Route/Report Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:19:27 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 11 TEXT >( Had to ride home though and >reattach a turn signal that was vibratinmg loose, I know here come the From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 22:26:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA04781; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:26:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA09317; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:25:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA08458; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-16.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.57]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA17357; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:25:44 -0500 Message-ID: <081e01bd521d$bccfb4e0$3410b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: , "Chris Norloff" Subject: Re: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 21:53:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Thousands of new meters are slated for DC install to replace the many ugly beheaded posts now present (and stanch the revenue loss). Perhaps, just perhaps, parking process order and decorum will follow. That space bears watching. Bill Swanson / DC EN500 LTD Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Norloff To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Friday, March 13, 1998 10:17 AM Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] >At 09:19 AM 3/13/98 -0500, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: >>I was similarly ticketed for an offense I didn't commit last Friday. >>I parked at a motorcycle meter, paid my fare & went to work. >>I came back out to my bike & noticed I had a ticket - FOR THE OTHER >>METER!! >>I was so angry! >>I'm sure DC figures I'll just pay the $15 instead of taking a full day >>off work to fight the mess that they call traffic adjudication - >>right!?? > >You got that right. > >By the way, are you sure it's your ticket? I've heard of people putting >their tickets on other vehicles to see if that person will pay it for them. > :-) > > >My last ticket was for parking over an hour in a 12-hour zone.(!!) I think >it was because they had trainees, and the car parking next to the bike >parking is one hour. I put a sign on my bike, in front of the seat, to >educate the ticket writers. > >I checked the "Deny" box and followed the "mail adjudiction" instructions >on the back of the ticket. I sent a short letter with the ticket >explaining the problem and the likely reason for the error. > >That was early January, and still no word from them. I called once before, >but the ticket wasn't even in the computer by then. We'll see what happens! > >If my bike gets booted can someone give me a ride home? > >Chris Norloff > > >P.S. I got a ticket once where I think the ticket writer wrote me for the >wrong meter. The way I had parked, then with the bike leaning over on the >sidestand, the trunk was actually closer to the car meter in the next slot >than to the bike meter is my slot. > >I hadn't fed the bike meter like I'd intended to so it was out, but based >on the time the ticket was written I thought there might have been some >meter confusion. I just paid that ticket. > >But I do take more care in parking ... that my bike is closest to the >correct meter. Gotta remember who I'm dealing with! > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 22:26:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA04780; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:26:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA09321; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:25:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA08462; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-16.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.57]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA17361 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:25:45 -0500 Message-ID: <081f01bd521d$bdcb7a00$3410b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "DC Cycles List" Subject: Re: 3 bikes -Reply -Reply / meshing pastimes Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:27:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 -----Original Message----- From: Dale Horstman snip. . . >Personally, I never could figure out how >to combine my other favorite outdoor pastime, >golf, with motorcycling. No way to carry those >clubs on the bike either. So I gave up golf (for >a while at least - $till in $earch of a championship >length cour$e with decent green$ fee$. > >Dale (the Horkster) snip . . . A main use for my bike is to get me to my river-side windsurfer when >15k breezes and schedule match (last Sat and Sun were m. a. r. v. e. l. o .u .s). And as a coming extension -- to broaden venues -- >From the beginning it's seemed that a light-payload trailer arrangement would be feasible -- for that awkward board and gear weighing less than 50 lbs or so. Pry similar to needs for golfing. The right pieces (hardware, regs, insurance) seem available. Eyes are peeled. Universal joint, low to the ground, lightweight fairing, lights?, other. Maybe someone's done this? Probably, somewhere, though have perused without luck a lot of MC mag ads. Bill Swanson / DC EN500 LTD Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 17 23:36:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA05610; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA10332; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA09951; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.37.3.123] (1Cust65.tnt2.tco2.da.uu.net [153.34.245.65]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20585 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:36:10 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199803161519.KAA06081@shell.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:35:21 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: Re: Mattress on the beltway? >The one time (during college) that I had mattresses tied to the roof >of my Subaru Wagon, I didn't go over 30, to make sure it wouldn't blow >off. I can't picture going on the beltway with a mattress! (of course >this being DC, that wouldn't stop anyone) Quite a few years ago, on the Beltway, I saw a ovloV jacked up on a box spring with all 4 wheels off the ground. I can imagine it was a complete pain in the ass to get back on terra firma... It must have been quite a ride: pleasantly jabbering on the cell phone, then WHAM! and slide to a stop with the engine spinning wildly because the driving wheels are off the ground... Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 00:13:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA06328; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA11307; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA10629; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:13:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.50] (unverified [207.226.128.50]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:12:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: RE: HCS and accident Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 00:13:36 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Tom Zell" , "'Whiteside, John'" , "\"'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'\" " Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >My bikes(the last four) have gone through inspection without ever really >being looked at. If the bike had tread on the tires, all of it's >lights, and a horn it passed. Wouldn't be surprised if that's all that was required:) Seriously though, when I got the BMW inspected, for all of my bitching about ACP, they did a fairly thorough job inspecting it. Could be 'cause I was standing there, or possibly the novelty of a non-Japanese bike in their shop. Still... ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 04:55:24 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA08600; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA17289; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from att.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA13722; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by cagw1.att.com; Tue Mar 17 11:24 EST 1998 Received: from dcn72.dcn.att.com (dcn72.dcn.att.com [135.44.192.2]) by caig1.att.att.com (AT&T/GW-1.0) with SMTP id LAA23001 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by dcn72.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD5198.1EBCCB10@XXXXXX>; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:30:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: NO MC content . . .Just how stupid are some people in America? Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:30:42 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SQUALL LINE: California's coast is being hit hard by storms blamed on the "El Nino" ocean current. Locals can hardly hear a weather report without being told El Nino is at work. The phone rings a lot at Al Nino's house. Nino, who is listed in the telephone directory, says people call at all hours. "It's always something like, 'Why are you doing this?'," Nino says. While the retired Navy man doesn't enjoy being awakened in the middle of the night, "I usually joke around with them a bit," he says, telling callers he controls the weather because "I didn't really have nothing else to do." (AP) ...There are no dumb questions, just dumb people asking questions. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 08:08:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA09804; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19388; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:07:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA15634; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:07:46 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:10:16 -0500 Received: from WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL [160.151.107.198] by dclink.com with smtp id AIAJDEGD ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:09:54 -0500 Reply-To: "Jay" From: "Jay" To: Cc: "Baltimore Cycles List" , "EXUP Brotherhood" , "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Re: EXUP Tires Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:12:33 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd526f$83631c40$c66b97a0@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Rich, I was reading a post on the FZR 600 message board that said that a 150 would "slow down" the bike and that it doesn't have enough horsepower to justify a 150... any comments? Jay -----Original Message----- From: AKIMOTO@XXXXXX To: Jaynik Date: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 4:41 PM Subject: Re: EXUP Tires > >In a message dated 98-03-17 12:40:33 EST, eclemens@XXXXXX writes: > >> >> I am looking for tires to put on my FZR600. I have a Battleax (140) on the >> back and a Michellen (110) on the front. Yammaha puts on Dunlop Sportmax II >> Radials at the factory. Should I put those on? I want to go to a bigger >> rear tire. Do I want any bigger than a 150? The price differences between >> tires seems small, so I want to get a good set. Any recomendations? What >> are some of you guys runnning on your fzr600s? >> >> -Eric Clemens >> '92 FZR 600 (+20) >> CMEGOBYU > > Eric , > > Why do you want to go bigger ? I beleive the 160 is the max for that rim >due to chain and swing arm clearances ......... > >Rich Fish >akimoto@XXXXXX > > >============================================================ >**Don't forget EXUP IRC chat Thursday at 9 PM MST** >============================================================ >**Euro chat is sunday at 19:00 GMT** >============================================================ >---> The New 'Official' Brotherhood web page is up! >---> visit http://superbike.home.mindspring.com/exup.html >============================================================ > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 08:54:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA10286; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:54:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19964; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:54:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA16385; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:54:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id HAA28433; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:53:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id HAA27293; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:53:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980318135359.QTK4928@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:53:59 -0500 Message-ID: <350FD1F1.1C729A26@mci.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:53:53 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Lapp CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Mattress on the beltway? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would have paid money to see that happen. I hate ovloV's. It probably took the driver 5 minutes of redline wheel-spinning to figure out that something was wrong. Horkster Alan Lapp wrote: > > Quite a few years ago, on the Beltway, I saw a ovloV jacked up on a box > spring with all 4 wheels off the ground. I can imagine it was a complete > pain in the ass to get back on terra firma... > > It must have been quite a ride: pleasantly jabbering on the cell phone, > then WHAM! and slide to a stop with the engine spinning wildly because the > driving wheels are off the ground... > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 09:08:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA10464; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:08:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20225; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16612; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA10206; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:08:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:07:04 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA7A@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'mobacc'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:07:32 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Another thing that really bugs me in the morning: cars parking in the motorcycle only spaces. (I park at 17th & M) They NEVER get tickets, either!! What's going to happen in the summer when there are more of us riders trying to park there!!?? - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: mobacc [SMTP:mobacc@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 9:53 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Chris Norloff > Subject: Re: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] > > Thousands of new meters are slated for DC install to replace the many > ugly > beheaded posts now present (and stanch the revenue loss). Perhaps, > just > perhaps, parking process order and decorum will follow. That space > bears > watching. > > > Bill Swanson / DC > EN500 LTD > Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Date: Friday, March 13, 1998 10:17 AM > Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] > > > >At 09:19 AM 3/13/98 -0500, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > >>I was similarly ticketed for an offense I didn't commit last Friday. > >>I parked at a motorcycle meter, paid my fare & went to work. > >>I came back out to my bike & noticed I had a ticket - FOR THE OTHER > >>METER!! > >>I was so angry! > >>I'm sure DC figures I'll just pay the $15 instead of taking a full > day > >>off work to fight the mess that they call traffic adjudication - > >>right!?? > > > >You got that right. > > > >By the way, are you sure it's your ticket? I've heard of people > putting > >their tickets on other vehicles to see if that person will pay it for > them. > > :-) > > > > > >My last ticket was for parking over an hour in a 12-hour zone.(!!) I > think > >it was because they had trainees, and the car parking next to the > bike > >parking is one hour. I put a sign on my bike, in front of the seat, > to > >educate the ticket writers. > > > >I checked the "Deny" box and followed the "mail adjudiction" > instructions > >on the back of the ticket. I sent a short letter with the ticket > >explaining the problem and the likely reason for the error. > > > >That was early January, and still no word from them. I called once > before, > >but the ticket wasn't even in the computer by then. We'll see what > happens! > > > >If my bike gets booted can someone give me a ride home? > > > >Chris Norloff > > > > > >P.S. I got a ticket once where I think the ticket writer wrote me for > the > >wrong meter. The way I had parked, then with the bike leaning over > on the > >sidestand, the trunk was actually closer to the car meter in the next > slot > >than to the bike meter is my slot. > > > >I hadn't fed the bike meter like I'd intended to so it was out, but > based > >on the time the ticket was written I thought there might have been > some > >meter confusion. I just paid that ticket. > > > >But I do take more care in parking ... that my bike is closest to the > >correct meter. Gotta remember who I'm dealing with! > > > > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 09:12:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA10499; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20273; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:12:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16681; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA11736; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:12:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:11:36 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA7E@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Leon Begeman'" , dc-cycles Subject: RE: HOV lanes & Motorcycles, was FasToll Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:12:04 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Wow, I didn't know VA was so motorcycle-unfriendly. : ( - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 5:52 PM > To: O'Brien, Jeannette; dc-cycles > Subject: HOV lanes & Motorcycles, was FasToll > > Short answer, no, motorcycles have not always been allowed in Virginia > HOV > lanes. I rode the slow lanes alongside HOV lanes for more than 4 > years. > > The federal government started all this back when they first started > giving > extra money to states for HOV lanes. Back then, the rule was that > they > could allow motorcycles to use them. Most states allowed motorcycles > in > their HOV lanes, Virginia did not. > > When George Bush was president, a new version of the act changed the > rules > so that states had to allow motorcycles unless they went through a > long > procedure to exclude them. Virginia initially tried to ignore the > change. > The AMA, ABATE and VCOM (not necessarily in that order) went to work > to > change Virginia's policy. Under Gov. Wilder, the policy was that only > vehicles with the requisite number of people (and emergency/law > enforcement > vehicles) were allowed to use the lanes. > > Under duress, they commissioned a study whose charter was to identify > the > safety hazards that motorcycles posed in these lanes so that the > federal > requirement for excluding them could be met. Motorcycles were allowed > to > use the HOV lanes while this study was on going. At the end of the > two year > study period, the results were that motorcycles were approximately 7 > times > more likely to be in an accident on any road that paralled HOV lanes > than in > the HOV lanes themselves. The Wilder administration was very > reluctant to > publish the results of the study, but did extend the period that > motorcycles > were allowed in the lanes. The current law that puts motorcycles in > the > same category as the emergency vehicles was passed shortly (within 2 > years) > after Gov. Allen took office. > > Leon > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 09:16:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA10585; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20324; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:16:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16751; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:16:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id JAA10477; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:16:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma010460; Wed, 18 Mar 98 09:16:01 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:16:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:16:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain now that I've moved out of the District I'm getting to experience somewhat more parking "fun." Last night, on my way to meet a friend at Mama Ayesha on Calvert St., I noticed a row of those spaces that become legal at 6:30 on the eastbound side of Calvert just before Connecticut Ave. However, this was what the sign just in front of my front bumper said: Sign 1: An arrow pointing in both directions, reading "No standing or parking 4:30 PM to 6:30 PM" Sign 2, just above it: An arrow pointing in both directions, reading "No standing or parking anytime." I think what they meant was that in front of the sign up to the corner, no parking ever; behind the sign, no parking between 4:30 and 6:30. But what the signs really said were two contradictory things. No wonder people have trouble figuring out what's legal. --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: mobacc [SMTP:mobacc@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 9:53 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Chris Norloff > Subject: Re: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] > > Thousands of new meters are slated for DC install to replace the many ugly > beheaded posts now present (and stanch the revenue loss). Perhaps, just > perhaps, parking process order and decorum will follow. That space bears > watching. > > > Bill Swanson / DC > EN500 LTD > Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Date: Friday, March 13, 1998 10:17 AM > Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] > > > >At 09:19 AM 3/13/98 -0500, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > >>I was similarly ticketed for an offense I didn't commit last Friday. > >>I parked at a motorcycle meter, paid my fare & went to work. > >>I came back out to my bike & noticed I had a ticket - FOR THE OTHER > >>METER!! > >>I was so angry! > >>I'm sure DC figures I'll just pay the $15 instead of taking a full day > >>off work to fight the mess that they call traffic adjudication - > >>right!?? > > > >You got that right. > > > >By the way, are you sure it's your ticket? I've heard of people putting > >their tickets on other vehicles to see if that person will pay it for > them. > > :-) > > > > > >My last ticket was for parking over an hour in a 12-hour zone.(!!) I > think > >it was because they had trainees, and the car parking next to the bike > >parking is one hour. I put a sign on my bike, in front of the seat, to > >educate the ticket writers. > > > >I checked the "Deny" box and followed the "mail adjudiction" instructions > >on the back of the ticket. I sent a short letter with the ticket > >explaining the problem and the likely reason for the error. > > > >That was early January, and still no word from them. I called once > before, > >but the ticket wasn't even in the computer by then. We'll see what > happens! > > > >If my bike gets booted can someone give me a ride home? > > > >Chris Norloff > > > > > >P.S. I got a ticket once where I think the ticket writer wrote me for the > >wrong meter. The way I had parked, then with the bike leaning over on > the > >sidestand, the trunk was actually closer to the car meter in the next > slot > >than to the bike meter is my slot. > > > >I hadn't fed the bike meter like I'd intended to so it was out, but based > >on the time the ticket was written I thought there might have been some > >meter confusion. I just paid that ticket. > > > >But I do take more care in parking ... that my bike is closest to the > >correct meter. Gotta remember who I'm dealing with! > > > > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 09:17:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA10601; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:17:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20348; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:17:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16766; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id JAA10589; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma010563; Wed, 18 Mar 98 09:17:03 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:17:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'George Howell'" , Tom Zell , "Whiteside, John" , "\"'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'\" " Subject: RE: HCS and accident Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:17:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain That's about all DC required, whereas the auto inspections are pretty thorough. --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: George Howell [SMTP:ghowell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 12:14 AM > To: Tom Zell; 'Whiteside, John'; "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" > Subject: RE: HCS and accident > > >My bikes(the last four) have gone through inspection without ever really > >being looked at. If the bike had tread on the tires, all of it's > >lights, and a horn it passed. > > Wouldn't be surprised if that's all that was required:) > > Seriously though, when I got the BMW inspected, for all of my bitching > about ACP, they did a fairly thorough job inspecting it. Could be 'cause > I was standing there, or possibly the novelty of a non-Japanese bike in > their shop. Still... > > > > ``` > (o o) > *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* > |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| > |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| > *--------------------------oooO------------* > |__||__| > || || > ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 09:21:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA10648; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20461; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ngedns.northgrum.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16843; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from xcgny003.northgrum.com ([132.228.123.161]) by ngedns.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA01913 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:18:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by XCGNY003 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:21:38 -0500 Message-ID: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF563@xcgva001.grumman.com> From: "Meier, Christopher" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "'aki.damme@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: HCS and accident Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:21:23 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain > ---------- > From: aki.damme@XXXXXX[SMTP:aki.damme@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 1:26 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: HCS and accident > --snip-- > more work than mechanics or what. But I've also noticed the past > couple of years that they seem to be *really* picky about passing > the safety inspections (they failed me once because I had a > "discolored" > fork brace! And the following year they tried to fail me because > I "didn't remember exactly when I had the brake pads replaced", even > through there was probably 75% of the pads left!). > Why get your bike inspected at a bike shop? Over the years, all the bike inspections I have had were done by the local gas station. Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I like avoiding bike shops for inspections, since car shops don't sell any bike parts and won't be as inclined to fail you and happen to have the part you need right there to put in so you will pass ... BTW, be careful, car shops do this with cars. i.e., you have a headlight out and they charge you a gob of money to replace it on the spot. Remember that your $10 inspection fee includes TWO inspections. The initial one AND a follow-up to check that you have fixed the problem. If $$$ matters to you, you could run to the local Trak, buy the part for 1/2 the shop price, replace it yourself, and pass the inspection without another fee. YMMV, chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Christopher A. Meier meierch@XXXXXX Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA 1994 RF900R AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 09:25:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA10709; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:25:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20578; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:25:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16909; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:25:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id JAA11539; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:25:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma011517; Wed, 18 Mar 98 09:25:11 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:25:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: dc-cycles Subject: RE: HOV lanes & Motorcycles, was FasToll Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:25:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Virginia, or the former governor? Did anyone catch the thing in AMA's magazine about the law that was proposed in NH recently (but died in committee) -- it's along the lines of the Texas helmet law -- you would be allowed to ride without a helmet, but only if you had a $1 million insurance policy that covers damages to OTHERS caused by an accident -- but does not cover the motorcyclist. Huh, does an unhelmeted motorcyclist cause more damage to other vehicles/people/property in an accident than one in a helmet? Whatever you think of helmets & helmet laws, this one sounded plain old stoooopid. --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:12 AM > To: 'Leon Begeman'; dc-cycles > Subject: RE: HOV lanes & Motorcycles, was FasToll > > Wow, I didn't know VA was so motorcycle-unfriendly. : ( > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 5:52 PM > > To: O'Brien, Jeannette; dc-cycles > > Subject: HOV lanes & Motorcycles, was FasToll > > > > Short answer, no, motorcycles have not always been allowed in Virginia > > HOV > > lanes. I rode the slow lanes alongside HOV lanes for more than 4 > > years. > > > > The federal government started all this back when they first started > > giving > > extra money to states for HOV lanes. Back then, the rule was that > > they > > could allow motorcycles to use them. Most states allowed motorcycles > > in > > their HOV lanes, Virginia did not. > > > > When George Bush was president, a new version of the act changed the > > rules > > so that states had to allow motorcycles unless they went through a > > long > > procedure to exclude them. Virginia initially tried to ignore the > > change. > > The AMA, ABATE and VCOM (not necessarily in that order) went to work > > to > > change Virginia's policy. Under Gov. Wilder, the policy was that only > > vehicles with the requisite number of people (and emergency/law > > enforcement > > vehicles) were allowed to use the lanes. > > > > Under duress, they commissioned a study whose charter was to identify > > the > > safety hazards that motorcycles posed in these lanes so that the > > federal > > requirement for excluding them could be met. Motorcycles were allowed > > to > > use the HOV lanes while this study was on going. At the end of the > > two year > > study period, the results were that motorcycles were approximately 7 > > times > > more likely to be in an accident on any road that paralled HOV lanes > > than in > > the HOV lanes themselves. The Wilder administration was very > > reluctant to > > publish the results of the study, but did extend the period that > > motorcycles > > were allowed in the lanes. The current law that puts motorcycles in > > the > > same category as the emergency vehicles was passed shortly (within 2 > > years) > > after Gov. Allen took office. > > > > Leon > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 09:27:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA10720; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:27:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20611; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:27:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16947; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:27:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id JAA11682; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:27:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma011660; Wed, 18 Mar 98 09:26:53 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:27:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:27:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain I wonder what the rationale is behind letter the motorcycle spots become open to everyone nights/weekends. I always see cars parked in the cycle spots at 19th & Q near Dupont Circle on weekends and it annoys me, though it's legal. Wonder what it would take to get that changed. It would certainly make going to Dupont Circle easier. --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:08 AM > To: 'mobacc'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Chris Norloff > Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] > > Another thing that really bugs me in the morning: cars parking in the > motorcycle only spaces. (I park at 17th & M) They NEVER get tickets, > either!! > What's going to happen in the summer when there are more of us riders > trying to park there!!?? > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mobacc [SMTP:mobacc@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 9:53 PM > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Chris Norloff > > Subject: Re: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] > > > > Thousands of new meters are slated for DC install to replace the many > > ugly > > beheaded posts now present (and stanch the revenue loss). Perhaps, > > just > > perhaps, parking process order and decorum will follow. That space > > bears > > watching. > > > > > > Bill Swanson / DC > > EN500 LTD > > Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Norloff > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Date: Friday, March 13, 1998 10:17 AM > > Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] > > > > > > >At 09:19 AM 3/13/98 -0500, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > > >>I was similarly ticketed for an offense I didn't commit last Friday. > > >>I parked at a motorcycle meter, paid my fare & went to work. > > >>I came back out to my bike & noticed I had a ticket - FOR THE OTHER > > >>METER!! > > >>I was so angry! > > >>I'm sure DC figures I'll just pay the $15 instead of taking a full > > day > > >>off work to fight the mess that they call traffic adjudication - > > >>right!?? > > > > > >You got that right. > > > > > >By the way, are you sure it's your ticket? I've heard of people > > putting > > >their tickets on other vehicles to see if that person will pay it for > > them. > > > :-) > > > > > > > > >My last ticket was for parking over an hour in a 12-hour zone.(!!) I > > think > > >it was because they had trainees, and the car parking next to the > > bike > > >parking is one hour. I put a sign on my bike, in front of the seat, > > to > > >educate the ticket writers. > > > > > >I checked the "Deny" box and followed the "mail adjudiction" > > instructions > > >on the back of the ticket. I sent a short letter with the ticket > > >explaining the problem and the likely reason for the error. > > > > > >That was early January, and still no word from them. I called once > > before, > > >but the ticket wasn't even in the computer by then. We'll see what > > happens! > > > > > >If my bike gets booted can someone give me a ride home? > > > > > >Chris Norloff > > > > > > > > >P.S. I got a ticket once where I think the ticket writer wrote me for > > the > > >wrong meter. The way I had parked, then with the bike leaning over > > on the > > >sidestand, the trunk was actually closer to the car meter in the next > > slot > > >than to the bike meter is my slot. > > > > > >I hadn't fed the bike meter like I'd intended to so it was out, but > > based > > >on the time the ticket was written I thought there might have been > > some > > >meter confusion. I just paid that ticket. > > > > > >But I do take more care in parking ... that my bike is closest to the > > >correct meter. Gotta remember who I'm dealing with! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 09:33:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA10784; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:33:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20701; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17104; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:32:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD524F.F6FD4790@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:26:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Whiteside, John'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:26:42 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That was my understanding, too.... although I have yet to see HOV really work(at least on I-66). -Tom '86 VFR750 >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 5:12 PM >To: 'Whiteside, John'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles > >I thought HOV always had to be open to motorcycles...at least around >here. Is that not true? > >- Jeannette > > >> Another toll road question: anyone heard whether the HOV lanes opening >> on it >> later this year will be open to bikes? >> >> John Whiteside >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 09:38:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA10852; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21052; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from the.martinagency.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17197; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by the.martinagency.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA15774 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:31:10 -0800 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:37:42 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:39:01 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline DC-ers, You guys need to take this up with the AMA's legal people. They have an office with a full-time staff in DC. It's this kind of crap that made me join in the first place. Good Luck. Joe Richmond From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 09:54:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA11012; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:54:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21562; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17470; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:53:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA26269; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:53:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:52:56 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA88@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: FW: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:53:24 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I'm forwarding this for Glenn Dysart, as he can't post to the list for some reason right now... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM > To: O'Brien, Jeannette > Subject: Sunday's other ride report > > J, will you forward this on? > > Glenn > > > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an Arlington, > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to be. > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that I > decided we should tour Southern MD. > > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop on US > 1 > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed across > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We followed > MD > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on MD > 225 > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard to > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road it > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to DC. > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks on > the asphalt from drag racing. > > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. Still > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is nothing > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to show > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD 6. > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a break > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned gas > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La Plata > to > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD 231. > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent > River. > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We stopped > at > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough to > go > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at 11:30 > AM. > > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD 2/4. > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on > Wilson > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate > right > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into > Chesapeake Beach > > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group > through > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed north on > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We > headed > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on and > the > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. > > Let see if I can remember all the riders > > Glenn Dysart VF500C > Curtis Clements CBR900RR > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? > Richard Westbrook VFR750 > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F > Tom Zell VF750F ? > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 09:56:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA11044; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:56:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21681; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:55:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17519; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:55:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA26851; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA89@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:54:57 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM > To: O'Brien, Jeannette > Subject: Sunday's other ride report > > J, will you forward this on? > > Glenn > > > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an Arlington, > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to be. > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that I > decided we should tour Southern MD. > > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop on US > 1 > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed across > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We followed > MD > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on MD > 225 > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard to > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road it > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to DC. > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks on > the asphalt from drag racing. > > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. Still > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is nothing > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to show > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD 6. > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a break > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned gas > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La Plata > to > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD 231. > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent > River. > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We stopped > at > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough to > go > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at 11:30 > AM. > > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD 2/4. > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on > Wilson > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate > right > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into > Chesapeake Beach > > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group > through > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed north on > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We > headed > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on and > the > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. > > Let see if I can remember all the riders > > Glenn Dysart VF500C > Curtis Clements CBR900RR > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? > Richard Westbrook VFR750 > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F > Tom Zell VF750F ? > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 09:56:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA11046; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:56:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21680; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:55:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from suntan.kleks.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17517; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:55:46 -0500 (EST) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.kleks.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) id JAA05266 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:57:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803181457.JAA05266@suntan.kleks.org> Subject: Re: Mattress on the beltway? (fwd) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:57:03 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > > I would have paid money to see that happen. > I hate ovloV's. It probably took the driver Hey ! Bugger off ! My other motorcycle is a volvo... BTW, I am new to this list - so let me do short intro. MC: brand new XX, with 250 miles on it - just breaking in... other hobbies - daughter, wife, photos. I live on west side, in Ashburn. Looking forward to ride together. _zjt From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:01:24 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11135; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22009; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from server.va.chesapeake-systems.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17656; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:01:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by server.va.chesapeake-systems.com with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BD5254.96AC0BB0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:59:49 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Jay St. Peter" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Fastoll Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:59:48 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is my first post to the list. I just started a job in Leesburg a month ago, and got Fastoll. I tried putting the device in a number of places on my ZX-9R. First, I put it in the top of a bag strapped on the back of the bike. That didn't work. Next, I tried putting it in a pocket of my jacket on the arm. When going through, I held my arm up. I tried this a number of times with various amounts of the device hanging out of the pocket (I did have a bunch of free trips using this method). I wedged it down under the windshield in front of the instrument cluster and got another free trip. Finally, I gave up and mounted it to the windshield just like in my truck. It worked at both toll gates on the way home, but I haven't used it since. BTW, you can buy the mounting plastic velcro like stuff at radio shack. The only problem I have now is that I forgot to take it off the bike and drove in 2 days without it. On the 2nd day, I didn't have a $.01 on me, so I took another free trip (oops, lucky the gates were up). I'll probably get a 2nd device, as there is no longer a deposit for the device. Good Luck, Jay St. Peter From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:02:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11146; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:02:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22050; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:01:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17680; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD5254.053594D0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:55:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Leon Begeman'" , "'jlobrien@XXXXXX'" , "'jwhiteside@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:55:43 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have no problem with HOV 2 inside the beltway... my problem is with the cheaters coming into the HOV lanes on the outside and then darting back over at the last second to get to the Beltway exits. It's no wonder why we have the second worse(I think we're numero uno)traffic in the country. IMHO We have the wrong people designing/running the system. But hey... what do I know... I'm only a tax-payer! -Tom '86 VFR750 >-----Original Message----- >From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:56 AM >To: Tom Zell; jlobrien@XXXXXX; jwhiteside@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles > >HOV works fairly well on I-95 (Note: I disagree with the concept, the state >ought to build enough roads for everyone) I think that the following >conditions need to be met for HOV to be practical. 1) Two people isn't HOV >there should be 3 or 4 required. 2) The lanes must be physically separated >from the rest of the traffic, if people can jump in and out at will there >will be lots of cheaters. 3) There must be fewer exits and entrances than on >the regular lanes, otherwise the patrols must be everywhere. On I-95 before >the lanes were separate, about half of the cars in the diamond lanes were >singles. On 66, they made the mistake of calling 2 people HOV, so now the >inside the beltway part is too clogged to be useful. (The number of people >to be HOV can never be increased, people won't stand for it - witness the >short-lived HOV lane on the Dulles toll road) > >Tom Zell wrote: > >> That was my understanding, too.... although I have yet to see HOV really >> work(at least on I-66). >> >> -Tom >> '86 VFR750 >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 5:12 PM >> >To: 'Whiteside, John'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> >Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles >> > >> >I thought HOV always had to be open to motorcycles...at least around >> >here. Is that not true? >> > >> >- Jeannette >> > >> > >> >> Another toll road question: anyone heard whether the HOV lanes opening >> >> on it >> >> later this year will be open to bikes? >> >> >> >> John Whiteside >> >> > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:05:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11228; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22213; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:05:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17885; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:05:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD5254.8166CB50@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:59:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'zbig@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Mattress on the beltway? (fwd) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:59:12 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Welcome to the list!! -Tom Zell '86 VFR750 zell@XXXXXX >-----Original Message----- >From: zbig@XXXXXX [SMTP:zbig@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:57 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Mattress on the beltway? (fwd) > >> >> I would have paid money to see that happen. >> I hate ovloV's. It probably took the driver > > >Hey ! Bugger off ! My other motorcycle is a volvo... > >BTW, I am new to this list - so let me do short intro. > >MC: brand new XX, with 250 miles on it - just breaking in... >other hobbies - daughter, wife, photos. >I live on west side, in Ashburn. > >Looking forward to ride together. > >_zjt From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:11:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11347; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22415; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18107; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:10:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD5255.4707E740@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:04:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:04:44 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey!!!! We don't need to go into that!!!! OUCH!!!!!!!!! I'm still in pain!! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> To: O'Brien, Jeannette >> Subject: Sunday's other ride report >> >> J, will you forward this on? >> >> Glenn >> >> >> Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an Arlington, >> Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to be. >> The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that I >> decided we should tour Southern MD. >> >> Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop on US >> 1 >> in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed across >> the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We followed >> MD >> 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on MD >> 225 >> and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard to >> see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road it >> has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to DC. >> Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks on >> the asphalt from drag racing. >> >> We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. Still >> trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is nothing >> there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to show >> this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to >> Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD 6. >> Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a break >> especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only >> thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned gas >> station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La Plata >> to >> New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD 231. >> This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent >> River. >> We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We stopped >> at >> a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough to >> go >> pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at 11:30 >> AM. >> >> After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD 2/4. >> We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on >> Wilson >> Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate >> right >> (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into >> Chesapeake Beach >> >> In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille >> (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group >> through >> the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed north on >> MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We >> continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We >> headed >> north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on and >> the >> rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. >> >> Let see if I can remember all the riders >> >> Glenn Dysart VF500C >> Curtis Clements CBR900RR >> Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? >> Richard Westbrook VFR750 >> Jeannette O'Brien VF500F >> Tom Zell VF750F ? >> ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 >> ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:12:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11383; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:12:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22445; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:11:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18134; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:11:55 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA16875 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:12:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199803181512.AA16875@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:12:16 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:12:16 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:12:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:09:56 -0500 Subject: RE: HCS and accident To: MEIERCH@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF563@xcgva001.grumman.com> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="RE: HCS and accident"; charset=us-ascii ...I do now (last two years for my wifes and the last year for mine)... however, has anyone noticed that it's fairly common for the gas stations to be out of motorcyle inspection stickers? Last year, I had to go to THREE stations before finding one that even HAD motorcycle stickers..and when I finally did, it was a month old so he gave it to me for free.. -aki > > ---------- > > From: aki.damme@XXXXXX[SMTP:aki.damme@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 1:26 PM > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: HCS and accident > > > --snip-- > > more work than mechanics or what. But I've also noticed the past > > couple of years that they seem to be *really* picky about passing > > the safety inspections (they failed me once because I had a > > "discolored" > > fork brace! And the following year they tried to fail me because > > I "didn't remember exactly when I had the brake pads replaced", even > > through there was probably 75% of the pads left!). > > > Why get your bike inspected at a bike shop? Over the years, all the > bike inspections I have had were done by the local gas station. > > Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I like avoiding bike shops for inspections, > since car shops don't sell any bike parts and won't be as inclined to > fail you and happen to have the part you need right there to put in so > you will pass ... > > BTW, be careful, car shops do this with cars. i.e., you have a > headlight out and they charge you a gob of money to replace it on the > spot. Remember that your $10 inspection fee includes TWO inspections. > The initial one AND a follow-up to check that you have fixed the > problem. If $$$ matters to you, you could run to the local Trak, buy > the part for 1/2 the shop price, replace it yourself, and pass the > inspection without another fee. > > YMMV, > chris > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ > Christopher A. Meier > meierch@XXXXXX > Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA > 1994 RF900R AMA #470094 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ > > > > > X-Priority: 3 > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:13:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11447; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:13:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22479; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18178; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:13:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA11312; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:20:58 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:14:26 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Should I take this one J? Curtis ---------- From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM > To: O'Brien, Jeannette > Subject: Sunday's other ride report > > J, will you forward this on? > > Glenn > > > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an Arlington, > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to be. > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that I > decided we should tour Southern MD. > > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop on US > 1 > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed across > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We followed > MD > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on MD > 225 > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard to > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road it > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to DC. > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks on > the asphalt from drag racing. > > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. Still > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is nothing > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to show > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD 6. > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a break > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned gas > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La Plata > to > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD 231. > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent > River. > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We stopped > at > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough to > go > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at 11:30 > AM. > > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD 2/4. > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on > Wilson > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate > right > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into > Chesapeake Beach > > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group > through > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed north on > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We > headed > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on and > the > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. > > Let see if I can remember all the riders > > Glenn Dysart VF500C > Curtis Clements CBR900RR > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? > Richard Westbrook VFR750 > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F > Tom Zell VF750F ? > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:14:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11472; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22505; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18194; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA03759; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:13:16 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA91@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "O'Brien, Jeannette" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:13:44 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; > 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > Should I take this one J? > Curtis > > ---------- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM > > To: O'Brien, Jeannette > > Subject: Sunday's other ride report > > > > J, will you forward this on? > > > > Glenn > > > > > > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an Arlington, > > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to > be. > > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that I > > decided we should tour Southern MD. > > > > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop on > US > > 1 > > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed > across > > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We > followed > > MD > > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on MD > > 225 > > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard > to > > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road > it > > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to > DC. > > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks > on > > the asphalt from drag racing. > > > > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. > Still > > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is > nothing > > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to > show > > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to > > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD 6. > > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a break > > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only > > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned gas > > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La > Plata > > to > > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD > 231. > > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent > > River. > > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We stopped > > at > > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough > to > > go > > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at > 11:30 > > AM. > > > > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD > 2/4. > > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on > > Wilson > > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate > > right > > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into > > Chesapeake Beach > > > > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille > > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group > > through > > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed north > on > > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We > > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We > > headed > > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on and > > the > > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. > > > > Let see if I can remember all the riders > > > > Glenn Dysart VF500C > > Curtis Clements CBR900RR > > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? > > Richard Westbrook VFR750 > > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F > > Tom Zell VF750F ? > > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 > > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:17:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11546; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22578; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:17:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18274; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:17:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA11349; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:24:40 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:18:07 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well Tom Zell started the trip out with a STUNNING 180 in the middle of US1 pulling out of the dough-nut shop. Jeannette came close to running him over. Time for that life insurance policy Tom. Curtis ---------- From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; > 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > Should I take this one J? > Curtis > > ---------- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM > > To: O'Brien, Jeannette > > Subject: Sunday's other ride report > > > > J, will you forward this on? > > > > Glenn > > > > > > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an Arlington, > > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to > be. > > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that I > > decided we should tour Southern MD. > > > > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop on > US > > 1 > > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed > across > > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We > followed > > MD > > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on MD > > 225 > > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard > to > > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road > it > > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to > DC. > > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks > on > > the asphalt from drag racing. > > > > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. > Still > > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is > nothing > > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to > show > > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to > > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD 6. > > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a break > > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only > > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned gas > > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La > Plata > > to > > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD > 231. > > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent > > River. > > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We stopped > > at > > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough > to > > go > > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at > 11:30 > > AM. > > > > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD > 2/4. > > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on > > Wilson > > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate > > right > > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into > > Chesapeake Beach > > > > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille > > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group > > through > > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed north > on > > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We > > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We > > headed > > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on and > > the > > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. > > > > Let see if I can remember all the riders > > > > Glenn Dysart VF500C > > Curtis Clements CBR900RR > > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? > > Richard Westbrook VFR750 > > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F > > Tom Zell VF750F ? > > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 > > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:18:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11581; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:18:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22645; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:18:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18334; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:18:32 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA17300 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:18:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199803181518.AA17300@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:18:26 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:18:26 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:18:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:15:35 -0500 Subject: Re: Mattress on the beltway? (fwd) To: zbig@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199803181457.JAA05266@suntan.kleks.org> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="Re: Mattress on the beltway? (fwd)"; charset=us-ascii ..huh? You drive a Volvo and your hobbies include your *daughter* and PHOTOS? ?!?!?!??!!... hmmm....and just what is an "XX"? OK..I'M JUST KIDDING!!! 8-P -aki > > > > I would have paid money to see that happen. > > I hate ovloV's. It probably took the driver > > > Hey ! Bugger off ! My other motorcycle is a volvo... > > BTW, I am new to this list - so let me do short intro. > > MC: brand new XX, with 250 miles on it - just breaking in... > other hobbies - daughter, wife, photos. > I live on west side, in Ashburn. > > Looking forward to ride together. > > _zjt > > X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 > X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. > Content-Type: text > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:20:02 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11614; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22700; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:19:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18362; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:19:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA05346; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:19:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:18:45 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA93@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "O'Brien, Jeannette" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:19:14 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There was also a stunning post-filling up drop of the bike by Doug in front of me! I was beginning to think that I was bad luck!! I must say, though, they both picked those bikes up faster than I could've even DREAMED of doing! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:18 AM > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; > 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > Well Tom Zell started the trip out with a STUNNING 180 in the middle > of > US1 pulling out of the dough-nut shop. Jeannette came close to running > > him over. Time for that life insurance policy Tom. > Curtis > > ---------- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM > To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; > 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette > Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. > I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. > Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM > > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; > > 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > > Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > > > Should I take this one J? > > Curtis > > > > ---------- > > From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM > > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > > > Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" > > > > - Jeannette > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM > > > To: O'Brien, Jeannette > > > Subject: Sunday's other ride report > > > > > > J, will you forward this on? > > > > > > Glenn > > > > > > > > > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an > Arlington, > > > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to > > be. > > > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that > I > > > decided we should tour Southern MD. > > > > > > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop > on > > US > > > 1 > > > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed > > across > > > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We > > followed > > > MD > > > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on > MD > > > 225 > > > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard > > to > > > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road > > it > > > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to > > DC. > > > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks > > on > > > the asphalt from drag racing. > > > > > > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. > > Still > > > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is > > nothing > > > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to > > show > > > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to > > > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD > 6. > > > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a > break > > > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only > > > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned > gas > > > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La > > Plata > > > to > > > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD > > 231. > > > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent > > > River. > > > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We > stopped > > > at > > > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough > > to > > > go > > > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at > > 11:30 > > > AM. > > > > > > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD > > 2/4. > > > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on > > > Wilson > > > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate > > > right > > > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into > > > Chesapeake Beach > > > > > > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille > > > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group > > > through > > > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed > north > > on > > > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We > > > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We > > > headed > > > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on > and > > > the > > > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. > > > > > > Let see if I can remember all the riders > > > > > > Glenn Dysart VF500C > > > Curtis Clements CBR900RR > > > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? > > > Richard Westbrook VFR750 > > > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F > > > Tom Zell VF750F ? > > > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 > > > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:21:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11680; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:21:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22753; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18406; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:21:41 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:24:12 -0500 Received: from WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL [160.151.107.198] by dclink.com with smtp id AKBIADFG ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:24:04 -0500 Reply-To: "Jay" From: "Jay" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Re: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:26:31 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd5282$3acecf20$c66b97a0@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Wow, that's some real mileage! What was the total? Jay -----Original Message----- From: jlobrien@XXXXXX To: Jaynik Date: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> To: O'Brien, Jeannette >> Subject: Sunday's other ride report >> >> J, will you forward this on? >> >> Glenn >> >> >> Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an Arlington, >> Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to be. >> The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that I >> decided we should tour Southern MD. >> >> Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop on US >> 1 >> in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed across >> the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We followed >> MD >> 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on MD >> 225 >> and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard to >> see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road it >> has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to DC. >> Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks on >> the asphalt from drag racing. >> >> We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. Still >> trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is nothing >> there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to show >> this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to >> Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD 6. >> Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a break >> especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only >> thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned gas >> station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La Plata >> to >> New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD 231. >> This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent >> River. >> We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We stopped >> at >> a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough to >> go >> pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at 11:30 >> AM. >> >> After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD 2/4. >> We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on >> Wilson >> Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate >> right >> (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into >> Chesapeake Beach >> >> In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille >> (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group >> through >> the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed north on >> MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We >> continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We >> headed >> north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on and >> the >> rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. >> >> Let see if I can remember all the riders >> >> Glenn Dysart VF500C >> Curtis Clements CBR900RR >> Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? >> Richard Westbrook VFR750 >> Jeannette O'Brien VF500F >> Tom Zell VF750F ? >> ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 >> ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:30:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11824; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:30:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22934; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:29:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18581; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA08088; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA08620; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:29:18 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA08613; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:29:16 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD523F.86D894C0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:29:03 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:24:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 134 TEXT This is getting more and more interesting! Please, tell us more. Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 7:14 AM >To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. >I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. >Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >> 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> Should I take this one J? >> Curtis >> >> ---------- >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" >> >> - Jeannette >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> > To: O'Brien, Jeannette >> > Subject: Sunday's other ride report >> > >> > J, will you forward this on? >> > >> > Glenn >> > >> > >> > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an Arlington, >> > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to >> be. >> > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that I >> > decided we should tour Southern MD. >> > >> > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop on >> US >> > 1 >> > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed >> across >> > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We >> followed >> > MD >> > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on MD >> > 225 >> > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard >> to >> > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road >> it >> > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to >> DC. >> > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks >> on >> > the asphalt from drag racing. >> > >> > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. >> Still >> > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is >> nothing >> > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to >> show >> > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to >> > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD 6. >> > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a break >> > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only >> > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned gas >> > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La >> Plata >> > to >> > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD >> 231. >> > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent >> > River. >> > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We stopped >> > at >> > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough >> to >> > go >> > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at >> 11:30 >> > AM. >> > >> > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD >> 2/4. >> > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on >> > Wilson >> > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate >> > right >> > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into >> > Chesapeake Beach >> > >> > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille >> > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group >> > through >> > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed north >> on >> > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We >> > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We >> > headed >> > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on and >> > the >> > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. >> > >> > Let see if I can remember all the riders >> > >> > Glenn Dysart VF500C >> > Curtis Clements CBR900RR >> > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? >> > Richard Westbrook VFR750 >> > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F >> > Tom Zell VF750F ? >> > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 >> > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:34:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11916; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:34:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23333; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:34:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18694; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:34:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD5258.98934570@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:28:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:28:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All I saw was a Metrobus coming... that's all the encouragement I needed to pick that VFR up and get back on and outta there! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:19 AM >To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >There was also a stunning post-filling up drop of the bike by Doug in >front of me! >I was beginning to think that I was bad luck!! >I must say, though, they both picked those bikes up faster than I >could've even DREAMED of doing! > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:18 AM >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >> 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> Well Tom Zell started the trip out with a STUNNING 180 in the middle >> of >> US1 pulling out of the dough-nut shop. Jeannette came close to running >> >> him over. Time for that life insurance policy Tom. >> Curtis >> >> ---------- >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >> To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >> 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. >> I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. >> Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) >> >> - Jeannette >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >> > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >> > 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> > Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> > >> > Should I take this one J? >> > Curtis >> > >> > ---------- >> > From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> > Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> > >> > Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" >> > >> > - Jeannette >> > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> > > To: O'Brien, Jeannette >> > > Subject: Sunday's other ride report >> > > >> > > J, will you forward this on? >> > > >> > > Glenn >> > > >> > > >> > > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an >> Arlington, >> > > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to >> > be. >> > > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that >> I >> > > decided we should tour Southern MD. >> > > >> > > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop >> on >> > US >> > > 1 >> > > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed >> > across >> > > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We >> > followed >> > > MD >> > > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on >> MD >> > > 225 >> > > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard >> > to >> > > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road >> > it >> > > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to >> > DC. >> > > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks >> > on >> > > the asphalt from drag racing. >> > > >> > > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. >> > Still >> > > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is >> > nothing >> > > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to >> > show >> > > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to >> > > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD >> 6. >> > > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a >> break >> > > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only >> > > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned >> gas >> > > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La >> > Plata >> > > to >> > > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD >> > 231. >> > > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent >> > > River. >> > > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We >> stopped >> > > at >> > > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough >> > to >> > > go >> > > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at >> > 11:30 >> > > AM. >> > > >> > > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD >> > 2/4. >> > > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on >> > > Wilson >> > > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate >> > > right >> > > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into >> > > Chesapeake Beach >> > > >> > > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille >> > > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group >> > > through >> > > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed >> north >> > on >> > > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We >> > > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We >> > > headed >> > > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on >> and >> > > the >> > > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. >> > > >> > > Let see if I can remember all the riders >> > > >> > > Glenn Dysart VF500C >> > > Curtis Clements CBR900RR >> > > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? >> > > Richard Westbrook VFR750 >> > > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F >> > > Tom Zell VF750F ? >> > > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 >> > > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:37:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11978; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:37:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23462; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:37:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18819; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:37:41 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:40:10 -0500 Received: from WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL [160.151.107.198] by dclink.com with smtp id AKCHDLBN ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:40:00 -0500 Reply-To: "Jay" From: "Jay" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" , Subject: Re: Mattress on the beltway? (fwd) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:42:37 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd5284$7a82e000$c66b97a0@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 LOL!!! Well, I'm the guy on the Black and Purple FZR 600 in jeans doing the same thing!!!!! Jay -----Original Message----- From: zbig@XXXXXX To: Jaynik Date: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:26 AM Subject: Re: Mattress on the beltway? (fwd) > >> >> Welcome to the list! Maybe we'll see you some time! >> > >Sure. When you will see a black XX with a guy dressed up in black leathers, >pretending to know what he is doing - it's me :-) > >_zjt > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:40:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA12023; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23521; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:39:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from the.martinagency.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18902; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:39:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by the.martinagency.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA16340 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:32:29 -0800 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:39:07 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:40:01 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: aki.damme@XXXXXX, MEIERCH@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: HCS and accident -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Had a buddy who got his Jeep flunked because his fog lights weren't working. He had just bolted them to his bumper and hadn't wired them yet. So he pulled the car out of the bay, took the lights off, and got passed. What a system. Joe Richmond From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:42:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA12038; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23570; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18965; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA13697; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:41:04 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA97@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: DC Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:41:33 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain By the way, the other riders were: Ray on the CBR F3 (friend of Tom's), Doug Brashear (?) on the Suzuki & Fritz Ames on a CB1000, I think he was left out entirely....9 riders total. > >> Glenn Dysart VF500C > >> Curtis Clements CBR900RR > >> Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? > >> Richard Westbrook VFR750 > >> Jeannette O'Brien VF500F > >> Tom Zell VF750F ? > >> ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 > >> ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? > >> > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:43:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA12049; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:43:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23591; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19004; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:43:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD5259.D33429A0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:37:18 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:37:17 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's ok.... I deserved it really.... I had been riding like a squid all the way to Krispy Kreeme. Would have earned more "Squid Points" had I actually been trying to do something more than just plain pulling out onto US-1(damn oil patches).... At least the VFR came out of it unscathed(although you can't tell by looking at it). -Tom '86 VFR750 >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:18 AM >To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, >Jeannette' >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >Well Tom Zell started the trip out with a STUNNING 180 in the middle of >US1 pulling out of the dough-nut shop. Jeannette came close to running >him over. Time for that life insurance policy Tom. >Curtis > >---------- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. >I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. >Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >> 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> Should I take this one J? >> Curtis >> >> ---------- >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" >> >> - Jeannette >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> > To: O'Brien, Jeannette >> > Subject: Sunday's other ride report >> > >> > J, will you forward this on? >> > >> > Glenn >> > >> > >> > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an Arlington, >> > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to >> be. >> > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that I >> > decided we should tour Southern MD. >> > >> > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop on >> US >> > 1 >> > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed >> across >> > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We >> followed >> > MD >> > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on >MD >> > 225 >> > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard >> to >> > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road >> it >> > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to >> DC. >> > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks >> on >> > the asphalt from drag racing. >> > >> > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. >> Still >> > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is >> nothing >> > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to >> show >> > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to >> > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD >6. >> > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a >break >> > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only >> > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned gas >> > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La >> Plata >> > to >> > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD >> 231. >> > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent >> > River. >> > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We >stopped >> > at >> > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough >> to >> > go >> > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at >> 11:30 >> > AM. >> > >> > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD >> 2/4. >> > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on >> > Wilson >> > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate >> > right >> > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into >> > Chesapeake Beach >> > >> > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille >> > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group >> > through >> > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed north >> on >> > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We >> > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We >> > headed >> > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on >and >> > the >> > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. >> > >> > Let see if I can remember all the riders >> > >> > Glenn Dysart VF500C >> > Curtis Clements CBR900RR >> > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? >> > Richard Westbrook VFR750 >> > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F >> > Tom Zell VF750F ? >> > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 >> > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:45:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA12096; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:45:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23642; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:45:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19061; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:45:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD525A.0F80DE80@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:38:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:38:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And another thing... I already have the life insurance policy!!! Hey... maybe it wasn't oil after all.... How close was Jeannette when I went down??? LOL : ) -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:18 AM >To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, >Jeannette' >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >Well Tom Zell started the trip out with a STUNNING 180 in the middle of >US1 pulling out of the dough-nut shop. Jeannette came close to running >him over. Time for that life insurance policy Tom. >Curtis > >---------- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. >I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. >Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >> 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> Should I take this one J? >> Curtis >> >> ---------- >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" >> >> - Jeannette >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> > To: O'Brien, Jeannette >> > Subject: Sunday's other ride report >> > >> > J, will you forward this on? >> > >> > Glenn >> > >> > >> > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an Arlington, >> > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to >> be. >> > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that I >> > decided we should tour Southern MD. >> > >> > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop on >> US >> > 1 >> > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed >> across >> > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We >> followed >> > MD >> > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on >MD >> > 225 >> > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard >> to >> > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road >> it >> > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to >> DC. >> > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks >> on >> > the asphalt from drag racing. >> > >> > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. >> Still >> > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is >> nothing >> > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to >> show >> > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to >> > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD >6. >> > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a >break >> > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only >> > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned gas >> > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La >> Plata >> > to >> > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD >> 231. >> > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent >> > River. >> > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We >stopped >> > at >> > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough >> to >> > go >> > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at >> 11:30 >> > AM. >> > >> > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD >> 2/4. >> > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on >> > Wilson >> > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate >> > right >> > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into >> > Chesapeake Beach >> > >> > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille >> > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group >> > through >> > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed north >> on >> > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We >> > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We >> > headed >> > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on >and >> > the >> > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. >> > >> > Let see if I can remember all the riders >> > >> > Glenn Dysart VF500C >> > Curtis Clements CBR900RR >> > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? >> > Richard Westbrook VFR750 >> > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F >> > Tom Zell VF750F ? >> > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 >> > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:46:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA12108; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:46:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23668; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:45:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19087; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:45:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA15104; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:45:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:44:43 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA98@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Tom Zell'" , "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "O'Brien, Jeannette" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:45:11 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You have to wait 'till we're married before I try to kill you! > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:39 AM > To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; > 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > And another thing... I already have the life insurance policy!!! > Hey... > maybe it wasn't oil after all.... How close was Jeannette when I went > down??? LOL > : ) > > -Tom > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:18 AM > >To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; > 'O'Brien, > >Jeannette' > >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > > >Well Tom Zell started the trip out with a STUNNING 180 in the middle > of > >US1 pulling out of the dough-nut shop. Jeannette came close to > running > >him over. Time for that life insurance policy Tom. > >Curtis > > > >---------- > >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM > >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; > >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette > >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > > >Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. > >I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. > >Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) > > > >- Jeannette > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM > >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; > >> 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >> > >> Should I take this one J? > >> Curtis > >> > >> ---------- > >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM > >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >> > >> Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" > >> > >> - Jeannette > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM > >> > To: O'Brien, Jeannette > >> > Subject: Sunday's other ride report > >> > > >> > J, will you forward this on? > >> > > >> > Glenn > >> > > >> > > >> > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an > Arlington, > >> > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going > to > >> be. > >> > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that > I > >> > decided we should tour Southern MD. > >> > > >> > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop > on > >> US > >> > 1 > >> > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed > >> across > >> > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We > >> followed > >> > MD > >> > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on > > >MD > >> > 225 > >> > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its > hard > >> to > >> > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this > road > >> it > >> > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close > to > >> DC. > >> > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout > marks > >> on > >> > the asphalt from drag racing. > >> > > >> > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. > >> Still > >> > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is > >> nothing > >> > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to > >> show > >> > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to > >> > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD > > >6. > >> > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a > >break > >> > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only > >> > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned > gas > >> > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La > >> Plata > >> > to > >> > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD > >> 231. > >> > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent > >> > River. > >> > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We > >stopped > >> > at > >> > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice > enough > >> to > >> > go > >> > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at > >> 11:30 > >> > AM. > >> > > >> > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD > >> 2/4. > >> > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on > >> > Wilson > >> > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an > immediate > >> > right > >> > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into > >> > Chesapeake Beach > >> > > >> > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille > >> > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group > >> > through > >> > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed > north > >> on > >> > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We > >> > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We > >> > headed > >> > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on > >and > >> > the > >> > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. > >> > > >> > Let see if I can remember all the riders > >> > > >> > Glenn Dysart VF500C > >> > Curtis Clements CBR900RR > >> > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? > >> > Richard Westbrook VFR750 > >> > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F > >> > Tom Zell VF750F ? > >> > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 > >> > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? > >> > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:47:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA12150; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:47:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23702; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19134; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA11750; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:54:52 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Tom Zell'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:48:19 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think I'll tell you about Jeannette's plan to split the money from you insurance with the rest of the list ---------- From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:39 AM To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report And another thing... I already have the life insurance policy!!! Hey... maybe it wasn't oil after all.... How close was Jeannette when I went down??? LOL : ) -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:18 AM >To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, >Jeannette' >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >Well Tom Zell started the trip out with a STUNNING 180 in the middle of >US1 pulling out of the dough-nut shop. Jeannette came close to running >him over. Time for that life insurance policy Tom. >Curtis > >---------- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. >I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. >Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >> 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> Should I take this one J? >> Curtis >> >> ---------- >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" >> >> - Jeannette >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> > To: O'Brien, Jeannette >> > Subject: Sunday's other ride report >> > >> > J, will you forward this on? >> > >> > Glenn >> > >> > >> > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an Arlington, >> > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to >> be. >> > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that I >> > decided we should tour Southern MD. >> > >> > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop on >> US >> > 1 >> > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed >> across >> > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We >> followed >> > MD >> > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on >MD >> > 225 >> > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard >> to >> > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road >> it >> > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to >> DC. >> > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks >> on >> > the asphalt from drag racing. >> > >> > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. >> Still >> > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is >> nothing >> > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to >> show >> > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to >> > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD >6. >> > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a >break >> > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only >> > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned gas >> > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La >> Plata >> > to >> > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD >> 231. >> > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent >> > River. >> > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We >stopped >> > at >> > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough >> to >> > go >> > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at >> 11:30 >> > AM. >> > >> > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD >> 2/4. >> > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on >> > Wilson >> > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate >> > right >> > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into >> > Chesapeake Beach >> > >> > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille >> > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group >> > through >> > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed north >> on >> > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We >> > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We >> > headed >> > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on >and >> > the >> > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. >> > >> > Let see if I can remember all the riders >> > >> > Glenn Dysart VF500C >> > Curtis Clements CBR900RR >> > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? >> > Richard Westbrook VFR750 >> > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F >> > Tom Zell VF750F ? >> > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 >> > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:49:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA12208; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:49:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23822; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19189; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:48:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA11810; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:56:28 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'Tom Zell'" , "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:49:55 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeannette, did you want to move the wedding day up??? ---------- From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:45 AM To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Tom Zell'; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report You have to wait 'till we're married before I try to kill you! > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:39 AM > To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; > 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > And another thing... I already have the life insurance policy!!! > Hey... > maybe it wasn't oil after all.... How close was Jeannette when I went > down??? LOL > : ) > > -Tom > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:18 AM > >To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; > 'O'Brien, > >Jeannette' > >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > > >Well Tom Zell started the trip out with a STUNNING 180 in the middle > of > >US1 pulling out of the dough-nut shop. Jeannette came close to > running > >him over. Time for that life insurance policy Tom. > >Curtis > > > >---------- > >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM > >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; > >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette > >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > > >Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. > >I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. > >Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) > > > >- Jeannette > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM > >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; > >> 'O'Brien, Jeannette' > >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >> > >> Should I take this one J? > >> Curtis > >> > >> ---------- > >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM > >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >> > >> Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" > >> > >> - Jeannette > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM > >> > To: O'Brien, Jeannette > >> > Subject: Sunday's other ride report > >> > > >> > J, will you forward this on? > >> > > >> > Glenn > >> > > >> > > >> > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an > Arlington, > >> > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going > to > >> be. > >> > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that > I > >> > decided we should tour Southern MD. > >> > > >> > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop > on > >> US > >> > 1 > >> > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed > >> across > >> > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We > >> followed > >> > MD > >> > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on > > >MD > >> > 225 > >> > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its > hard > >> to > >> > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this > road > >> it > >> > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close > to > >> DC. > >> > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout > marks > >> on > >> > the asphalt from drag racing. > >> > > >> > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. > >> Still > >> > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is > >> nothing > >> > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to > >> show > >> > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to > >> > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD > > >6. > >> > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a > >break > >> > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only > >> > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned > gas > >> > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La > >> Plata > >> > to > >> > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD > >> 231. > >> > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent > >> > River. > >> > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We > >stopped > >> > at > >> > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice > enough > >> to > >> > go > >> > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at > >> 11:30 > >> > AM. > >> > > >> > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD > >> 2/4. > >> > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on > >> > Wilson > >> > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an > immediate > >> > right > >> > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into > >> > Chesapeake Beach > >> > > >> > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille > >> > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group > >> > through > >> > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed > north > >> on > >> > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We > >> > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We > >> > headed > >> > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on > >and > >> > the > >> > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. > >> > > >> > Let see if I can remember all the riders > >> > > >> > Glenn Dysart VF500C > >> > Curtis Clements CBR900RR > >> > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? > >> > Richard Westbrook VFR750 > >> > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F > >> > Tom Zell VF750F ? > >> > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 > >> > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? > >> > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:53:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA12320; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23966; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:53:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19341; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD525B.2FDB1370@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:47:03 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:47:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ya know... as long as it's going to the list... HEY!!! no one better get any bright ideas now! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:48 AM >To: Tom Zell; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >'O'Brien, Jeannette' >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >I don't think I'll tell you about Jeannette's plan to split the money >from you insurance with the rest of the list > > >---------- >From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:39 AM >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >And another thing... I already have the life insurance policy!!! > Hey... >maybe it wasn't oil after all.... How close was Jeannette when I went >down??? LOL >: ) > >-Tom > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:18 AM >>To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, >>Jeannette' >>Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >>Well Tom Zell started the trip out with a STUNNING 180 in the middle >of >>US1 pulling out of the dough-nut shop. Jeannette came close to running > >>him over. Time for that life insurance policy Tom. >>Curtis >> >>---------- >>From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >>To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >>'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >>Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >>Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. >>I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. >>Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) >> >>- Jeannette >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >>> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >>> 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >>> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >>> >>> Should I take this one J? >>> Curtis >>> >>> ---------- >>> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >>> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >>> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >>> >>> Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" >>> >>> - Jeannette >>> >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] >>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >>> > To: O'Brien, Jeannette >>> > Subject: Sunday's other ride report >>> > >>> > J, will you forward this on? >>> > >>> > Glenn >>> > >>> > >>> > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an >Arlington, >>> > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to >>> be. >>> > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that >I >>> > decided we should tour Southern MD. >>> > >>> > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop >on >>> US >>> > 1 >>> > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed >>> across >>> > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We >>> followed >>> > MD >>> > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on >>MD >>> > 225 >>> > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard >>> to >>> > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road >>> it >>> > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to >>> DC. >>> > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks >>> on >>> > the asphalt from drag racing. >>> > >>> > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. >>> Still >>> > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is >>> nothing >>> > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to >>> show >>> > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to >>> > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD >>6. >>> > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a >>break >>> > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only >>> > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned >gas >>> > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La >>> Plata >>> > to >>> > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD >>> 231. >>> > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent >>> > River. >>> > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We >>stopped >>> > at >>> > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough >>> to >>> > go >>> > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at >>> 11:30 >>> > AM. >>> > >>> > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD >>> 2/4. >>> > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on >>> > Wilson >>> > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate >>> > right >>> > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into >>> > Chesapeake Beach >>> > >>> > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille >>> > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group >>> > through >>> > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed >north >>> on >>> > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We >>> > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We >>> > headed >>> > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on >>and >>> > the >>> > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. >>> > >>> > Let see if I can remember all the riders >>> > >>> > Glenn Dysart VF500C >>> > Curtis Clements CBR900RR >>> > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? >>> > Richard Westbrook VFR750 >>> > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F >>> > Tom Zell VF750F ? >>> > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 >>> > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? >>> > >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:54:46 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA12411; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:54:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23991; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:54:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19378; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:54:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD525B.5611F180@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:48:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:48:06 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gulp!.... this is getting scary!!! Let's make believe now that I don't have that policy... yeah, yeah, that's the ticket..... >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:50 AM >To: Tom Zell; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >'O'Brien, Jeannette' >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >Jeannette, did you want to move the wedding day up??? > >---------- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:45 AM >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Tom Zell'; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >You have to wait 'till we're married before I try to kill you! > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:39 AM >> To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >> 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> And another thing... I already have the life insurance policy!!! >> Hey... >> maybe it wasn't oil after all.... How close was Jeannette when I >went >> down??? LOL >> : ) >> >> -Tom >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:18 AM >> >To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >> 'O'Brien, >> >Jeannette' >> >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> > >> >Well Tom Zell started the trip out with a STUNNING 180 in the middle >> of >> >US1 pulling out of the dough-nut shop. Jeannette came close to >> running >> >him over. Time for that life insurance policy Tom. >> >Curtis >> > >> >---------- >> >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >> >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >> >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >> >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> > >> >Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. >> >I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. >> >Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) >> > >> >- Jeannette >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >> >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >> >> 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> >> >> Should I take this one J? >> >> Curtis >> >> >> >> ---------- >> >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> >> >> Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" >> >> >> >> - Jeannette >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> >> > To: O'Brien, Jeannette >> >> > Subject: Sunday's other ride report >> >> > >> >> > J, will you forward this on? >> >> > >> >> > Glenn >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an >> Arlington, >> >> > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going >> to >> >> be. >> >> > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week >that >> I >> >> > decided we should tour Southern MD. >> >> > >> >> > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop >> on >> >> US >> >> > 1 >> >> > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed >> >> across >> >> > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We >> >> followed >> >> > MD >> >> > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south >on >> >> >MD >> >> > 225 >> >> > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its >> hard >> >> to >> >> > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this >> road >> >> it >> >> > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close >> to >> >> DC. >> >> > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout >> marks >> >> on >> >> > the asphalt from drag racing. >> >> > >> >> > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. >> >> Still >> >> > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is >> >> nothing >> >> > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to >> >> show >> >> > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to >> >> > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into >MD >> >> >6. >> >> > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a >> >break >> >> > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, >only >> >> > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned >> gas >> >> > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La >> >> Plata >> >> > to >> >> > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD >> >> 231. >> >> > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent >> >> > River. >> >> > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We >> >stopped >> >> > at >> >> > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice >> enough >> >> to >> >> > go >> >> > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at >> >> 11:30 >> >> > AM. >> >> > >> >> > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD >> >> 2/4. >> >> > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on >> >> > Wilson >> >> > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an >> immediate >> >> > right >> >> > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this >into >> >> > Chesapeake Beach >> >> > >> >> > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille >> >> > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group >> >> > through >> >> > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed >> north >> >> on >> >> > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. > We >> >> > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. > We >> >> > headed >> >> > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on > >> >and >> >> > the >> >> > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. >> >> > >> >> > Let see if I can remember all the riders >> >> > >> >> > Glenn Dysart VF500C >> >> > Curtis Clements CBR900RR >> >> > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? >> >> > Richard Westbrook VFR750 >> >> > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F >> >> > Tom Zell VF750F ? >> >> > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 >> >> > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? >> >> > >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 10:58:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA12458; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:58:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24272; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19529; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:58:21 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA20409 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:58:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199803181558.AA20409@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:58:47 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:58:47 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:58:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:56:24 -0500 Subject: RE: HCS and accident -Reply To: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, MEIERCH@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="RE: HCS and accident -Reply"; charset=us-ascii yeah..it seems to be at the discretion of the inspector on what they'll pass and what they'll flunk...I had my Explorer fail one year because I have a "University of Margaritaville" sticker in my rear windshield..seems the inspector made some crap up about "obstructing the rear view"..however the car behind me had all kinds of crap on theirs and *they* passed.. guess the inspector doesn't like parrotheads. 8-P -aki > Had a buddy who got his Jeep flunked because his fog lights weren't > working. He had just bolted them to his bumper and hadn't wired them > yet. So he pulled the car out of the bay, took the lights off, and got > passed. What a system. > Joe > Richmond > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 11:01:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA12498; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24419; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19625; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:01:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA19814; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:00:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:58:57 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA9A@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Clements, Curtis A'" , "'Tom Zell'" , "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "O'Brien, Jeannette" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:59:25 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Nah, I love the guy too much to off him! I know - GAG. Sorry, onto more motorcycle topics!! - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 11:09:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA12611; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:09:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24623; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:09:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19869; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:09:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA17011; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:08:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA17266; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:08:30 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA17261; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:08:28 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD5245.01471A60@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:08:16 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:04:00 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 194 TEXT Going to take the slow route: nag till he commits suicide or the quick route: tragic bike accident? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 7:45 AM >To: 'Tom Zell'; 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >You have to wait 'till we're married before I try to kill you! > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:39 AM >> To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >> 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> And another thing... I already have the life insurance policy!!! >> Hey... >> maybe it wasn't oil after all.... How close was Jeannette when I went >> down??? LOL >> : ) >> >> -Tom >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:18 AM >> >To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >> 'O'Brien, >> >Jeannette' >> >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> > >> >Well Tom Zell started the trip out with a STUNNING 180 in the middle >> of >> >US1 pulling out of the dough-nut shop. Jeannette came close to >> running >> >him over. Time for that life insurance policy Tom. >> >Curtis >> > >> >---------- >> >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >> >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >> >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >> >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> > >> >Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. >> >I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. >> >Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) >> > >> >- Jeannette >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >> >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >> >> 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> >> >> Should I take this one J? >> >> Curtis >> >> >> >> ---------- >> >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> >> >> Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" >> >> >> >> - Jeannette >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> >> > To: O'Brien, Jeannette >> >> > Subject: Sunday's other ride report >> >> > >> >> > J, will you forward this on? >> >> > >> >> > Glenn >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an >> Arlington, >> >> > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going >> to >> >> be. >> >> > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that >> I >> >> > decided we should tour Southern MD. >> >> > >> >> > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop >> on >> >> US >> >> > 1 >> >> > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed >> >> across >> >> > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We >> >> followed >> >> > MD >> >> > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on >> >> >MD >> >> > 225 >> >> > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its >> hard >> >> to >> >> > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this >> road >> >> it >> >> > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close >> to >> >> DC. >> >> > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout >> marks >> >> on >> >> > the asphalt from drag racing. >> >> > >> >> > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. >> >> Still >> >> > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is >> >> nothing >> >> > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to >> >> show >> >> > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to >> >> > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD >> >> >6. >> >> > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a >> >break >> >> > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only >> >> > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned >> gas >> >> > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La >> >> Plata >> >> > to >> >> > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD >> >> 231. >> >> > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent >> >> > River. >> >> > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We >> >stopped >> >> > at >> >> > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice >> enough >> >> to >> >> > go >> >> > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at >> >> 11:30 >> >> > AM. >> >> > >> >> > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD >> >> 2/4. >> >> > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on >> >> > Wilson >> >> > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an >> immediate >> >> > right >> >> > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into >> >> > Chesapeake Beach >> >> > >> >> > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille >> >> > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group >> >> > through >> >> > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed >> north >> >> on >> >> > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We >> >> > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We >> >> > headed >> >> > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on >> >and >> >> > the >> >> > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. >> >> > >> >> > Let see if I can remember all the riders >> >> > >> >> > Glenn Dysart VF500C >> >> > Curtis Clements CBR900RR >> >> > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? >> >> > Richard Westbrook VFR750 >> >> > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F >> >> > Tom Zell VF750F ? >> >> > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 >> >> > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? >> >> > >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 11:34:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA12986; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:34:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25817; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:33:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA20741; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:33:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA06601 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:33:47 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:33:47 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: HCS and accident -Reply Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:35:51 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 24 TEXT >had my Explorer >fail one year because I have a "University of Margaritaville" >sticker in my rear windshield..seems the inspector made some >crap up about "obstructing the rear view"..however the car >behind me had all kinds of crap on theirs and *they* passed.. >guess the inspector doesn't like parrotheads. 8-P You can plaster the rear window with anything you want as long as you have TWO outside mirrors. When I came back from Europe last time and moved to VA, I had lots of neat stickers on the rear window of my car - Alpine passes, etc. The inspector told me that I had to either (a) scrape 'em off, or (b) get another external mirror on the passenger side. >> Had a buddy who got his Jeep flunked because his fog lights weren't >> working. He had just bolted them to his bumper and hadn't wired them >> yet. So he pulled the car out of the bay, took the lights off, and got >> passed. What a system. The rule in VA is that auxillary lighting has to work if installed Michael J. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 11:49:48 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA13146; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26206; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:49:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA21479; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:49:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA05102; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:49:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:48:21 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA9F@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:49:00 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain BTW, thanks to Glenn for a great ride & a great restaurant pick!! - Jeannette > >> >> > > >> >> > Glenn > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an > >> Arlington, > >> >> > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was > going > >> to > >> >> be. > >> >> > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week > that > >> I > >> >> > decided we should tour Southern MD. > >> >> > > >> >> > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut > shop > >> on > >> >> US > >> >> > 1 > >> >> > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we > headed > >> >> across > >> >> > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We > >> >> followed > >> >> > MD > >> >> > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south > on > >> > >> >MD > >> >> > 225 > >> >> > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its > >> hard > >> >> to > >> >> > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this > >> road > >> >> it > >> >> > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so > close > >> to > >> >> DC. > >> >> > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout > >> marks > >> >> on > >> >> > the asphalt from drag racing. > >> >> > > >> >> > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, > MD. > >> >> Still > >> >> > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is > >> >> nothing > >> >> > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going > to > >> >> show > >> >> > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east > to > >> >> > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into > MD > >> > >> >6. > >> >> > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a > > >> >break > >> >> > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, > only > >> >> > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an > abandoned > >> gas > >> >> > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through > La > >> >> Plata > >> >> > to > >> >> > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on > MD > >> >> 231. > >> >> > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the > Patuxent > >> >> > River. > >> >> > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We > >> >stopped > >> >> > at > >> >> > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice > >> enough > >> >> to > >> >> > go > >> >> > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped > at > >> >> 11:30 > >> >> > AM. > >> >> > > >> >> > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on > MD > >> >> 2/4. > >> >> > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north > on > >> >> > Wilson > >> >> > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an > >> immediate > >> >> > right > >> >> > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this > into > >> >> > Chesapeake Beach > >> >> > > >> >> > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille > >> >> > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the > group > >> >> > through > >> >> > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed > >> north > >> >> on > >> >> > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. > We > >> >> > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. > We > >> >> > headed > >> >> > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued > on > >> >and > >> >> > the > >> >> > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. > >> >> > > >> >> > Let see if I can remember all the riders > >> >> > > >> >> > Glenn Dysart VF500C > >> >> > Curtis Clements CBR900RR > >> >> > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? > >> >> > Richard Westbrook VFR750 > >> >> > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F > >> >> > Tom Zell VF750F ? > >> >> > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 > >> >> > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? > >> >> > > >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 11:55:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA13258; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:55:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26293; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:55:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA21673; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:55:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20452; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:55:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27915; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:55:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803181655.LAA27915@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: FW: Sunday's other ride report To: jlobrien@XXXXXX (O'Brien, Jeannette" ) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:55:22 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA88@badge.tuckerflyer.com> from "O'Brien, Jeannette" " at Mar 18, 98 09:53:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I'm forwarding this for Glenn Dysart, as he can't post to the list for > some reason right now... Some of those roads (especially 225/224) are the roads I took people on last month. 224 is a blast!! (Just remember that the road DOES END) :-) Louis > - Jeannette > > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on MD > > 225 > > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard to > > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road it > > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to DC. > > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks on > > the asphalt from drag racing. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 12:39:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA13807; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:39:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26875; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:39:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23176; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:39:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD526A.02D9EF90@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:33:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:33:08 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I must second that!!!! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 11:49 AM >To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > BTW, thanks to Glenn for a great ride & a great restaurant >pick!! > > - Jeannette > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Glenn >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an >> >> Arlington, >> >> >> > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was >> going >> >> to >> >> >> be. >> >> >> > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week >> that >> >> I >> >> >> > decided we should tour Southern MD. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut >> shop >> >> on >> >> >> US >> >> >> > 1 >> >> >> > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we >> headed >> >> >> across >> >> >> > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We >> >> >> followed >> >> >> > MD >> >> >> > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south >> on >> >> >> >> >MD >> >> >> > 225 >> >> >> > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its >> >> hard >> >> >> to >> >> >> > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this >> >> road >> >> >> it >> >> >> > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so >> close >> >> to >> >> >> DC. >> >> >> > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout >> >> marks >> >> >> on >> >> >> > the asphalt from drag racing. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, >> MD. >> >> >> Still >> >> >> > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is >> >> >> nothing >> >> >> > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going >> to >> >> >> show >> >> >> > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east >> to >> >> >> > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into >> MD >> >> >> >> >6. >> >> >> > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a >> >> >> >break >> >> >> > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, >> only >> >> >> > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an >> abandoned >> >> gas >> >> >> > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through >> La >> >> >> Plata >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on >> MD >> >> >> 231. >> >> >> > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the >> Patuxent >> >> >> > River. >> >> >> > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We >> >> >stopped >> >> >> > at >> >> >> > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice >> >> enough >> >> >> to >> >> >> > go >> >> >> > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped >> at >> >> >> 11:30 >> >> >> > AM. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on >> MD >> >> >> 2/4. >> >> >> > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north >> on >> >> >> > Wilson >> >> >> > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an >> >> immediate >> >> >> > right >> >> >> > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this >> into >> >> >> > Chesapeake Beach >> >> >> > >> >> >> > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille >> >> >> > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the >> group >> >> >> > through >> >> >> > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed >> >> north >> >> >> on >> >> >> > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. >> We >> >> >> > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. >> We >> >> >> > headed >> >> >> > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued >> on >> >> >and >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Let see if I can remember all the riders >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Glenn Dysart VF500C >> >> >> > Curtis Clements CBR900RR >> >> >> > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? >> >> >> > Richard Westbrook VFR750 >> >> >> > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F >> >> >> > Tom Zell VF750F ? >> >> >> > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 >> >> >> > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? >> >> >> > >> >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 12:58:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA14057; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27178; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:57:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns.rtcdirect.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23799; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from grover.rtcdirect.com ([192.168.16.9] (may be forged)) by ns.rtcdirect.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA02850 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:05:16 -0500 Received: by GROVER with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:59:41 -0500 Message-ID: <71D739DB74A8D111BB1800805FA9C49501D966@GROVER> From: "Westbrook, Richard" To: "'DC-Cycles'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:59:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Yeah, I second that Thank you. It was a great and much needed ride. Thank god Glenn new where he was going (or at least acted like it) because I had no idea where we were. They were some great roads though. Thanks again > ---------- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 4:49 PM > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > BTW, thanks to Glenn for a great ride & a great restaurant > pick!! > > - Jeannette > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 13:13:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA14426; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:13:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA27399; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:12:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24457; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:12:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id MAA29948; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:11:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA30116; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:11:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980318181139.JSGU27160@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:11:39 -0600 Message-ID: <35100E55.A014834C@mci.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:11:33 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Viteri, Ursulina" CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Sunday's other ride report References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, My wife is on this list! Don't give her any ideas! :-) Dale (the Horkster) Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > > Going to take the slow route: nag till he commits suicide or the quick > route: tragic bike accident? > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 14:24:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA16025; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:24:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA29235; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA27173; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:23:26 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565CB.006AEB63 ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:27:50 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565CB.0069A5F5.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:15:06 -0500 Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=51Gy87MCM8WNIV9xOg8qKfNy6Idy1LuJODpmDuTNh4ToQ5qnbUngW05P" --0__=51Gy87MCM8WNIV9xOg8qKfNy6Idy1LuJODpmDuTNh4ToQ5qnbUngW05P Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii okay okay, so I dropped my bike...I was just testing those case gaurds I picked up a few months ago. Yep, just like I thought - they're strong! :-) -Doug (Embedded image moved "Clements, Curtis A" at to file: AMS-Internet PIC02679.PCX) 03/18/98 11:06 AM To: Dysart@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL, dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL, jlobrien@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL, zell@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL cc: (bcc: Douglas Brashear/AMS/AMSINC) Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report I don't think I'll tell you about Jeannette's plan to split the money from you insurance with the rest of the list ---------- From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:39 AM To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report And another thing... I already have the life insurance policy!!! Hey... maybe it wasn't oil after all.... How close was Jeannette when I went down??? LOL : ) -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:18 AM >To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, >Jeannette' >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >Well Tom Zell started the trip out with a STUNNING 180 in the middle of >US1 pulling out of the dough-nut shop. Jeannette came close to running >him over. Time for that life insurance policy Tom. >Curtis > >---------- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. >I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. >Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >> 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> Should I take this one J? >> Curtis >> >> ---------- >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" >> >> - Jeannette >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> > To: O'Brien, Jeannette >> > Subject: Sunday's other ride report >> > >> > J, will you forward this on? >> > >> > Glenn >> > >> > >> > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an Arlington, >> > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to >> be. >> > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that I >> > decided we should tour Southern MD. >> > >> > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop on >> US >> > 1 >> > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed >> across >> > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We >> followed >> > MD >> > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on >MD >> > 225 >> > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard >> to >> > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road >> it >> > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to >> DC. >> > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks >> on >> > the asphalt from drag racing. >> > >> > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. >> Still >> > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is >> nothing >> > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to >> show >> > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to >> > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD >6. >> > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a >break >> > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only >> > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned gas >> > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La >> Plata >> > to >> > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD >> 231. >> > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent >> > River. >> > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We >stopped >> > at >> > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough >> to >> > go >> > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at >> 11:30 >> > AM. >> > >> > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD >> 2/4. >> > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on >> > Wilson >> > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate >> > right >> > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into >> > Chesapeake Beach >> > >> > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille >> > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group >> > through >> > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed north >> on >> > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We >> > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. 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A friend passed this on to me... pretty cool... check it out! -Tom '86 VFR750 >-----Original Message----- >From: Louis Dean [SMTP:ldean@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 1:38 PM >To: Tom Zell; Jon Baker; Mike Dean; Steve Mills; Chris Buthmann; Andrew >Smialek >Subject: ACE CAFE' > >http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcdaily98/day0318.html >CHECK THIS OUT. Interesting. >-- >======================================================= >======================================================= > Louis E. Dean > GIS Analyst > City of Portsmouth Va. > U.S.A. >======================================================= >All responsibility for content is mine and mine alone. >======================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 14:30:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA16235; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:30:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA29389; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:30:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA27488; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:30:41 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565CB.006B432A ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:31:35 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565CB.0069F980.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:18:57 -0500 Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=LKqohlHLxS61JewUM33WYIqWMHfUpqKifhYeDxYx33il7iCrPOEhkRYQ" --0__=LKqohlHLxS61JewUM33WYIqWMHfUpqKifhYeDxYx33il7iCrPOEhkRYQ Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> > Glenn Dysart VF500C >> >> > Curtis Clements CBR900RR >> >> > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? >> >> > Richard Westbrook VFR750 >> >> > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F >> >> > Tom Zell VF750F ? >> >> > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 >> >> > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? So do I have to change my name to ?????...how do I say that? Is that like "...............uh..................Brashear" ? :-) -Doug GS 750L douglas_brashear@XXXXXX (Embedded image moved "Viteri, Ursulina" at to file: AMS-Internet PIC23885.PCX) 03/18/98 11:29 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL cc: (bcc: Douglas Brashear/AMS/AMSINC) Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Going to take the slow route: nag till he commits suicide or the quick route: tragic bike accident? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 7:45 AM >To: 'Tom Zell'; 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >You have to wait 'till we're married before I try to kill you! > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:39 AM >> To: 'Clements, Curtis A'; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >> 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> And another thing... I already have the life insurance policy!!! >> Hey... >> maybe it wasn't oil after all.... How close was Jeannette when I went >> down??? LOL >> : ) >> >> -Tom >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:18 AM >> >To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >> 'O'Brien, >> >Jeannette' >> >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> > >> >Well Tom Zell started the trip out with a STUNNING 180 in the middle >> of >> >US1 pulling out of the dough-nut shop. Jeannette came close to >> running >> >him over. Time for that life insurance policy Tom. >> >Curtis >> > >> >---------- >> >From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >> >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >> >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >> >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> > >> >Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. >> >I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. >> >Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) >> > >> >- Jeannette >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >> >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >> >> 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >> >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> >> >> Should I take this one J? >> >> Curtis >> >> >> >> ---------- >> >> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> >> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> >> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >> >> >> Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" >> >> >> >> - Jeannette >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >> >> > To: O'Brien, Jeannette >> >> > Subject: Sunday's other ride report >> >> > >> >> > J, will you forward this on? >> >> > >> >> > Glenn >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an >> Arlington, >> >> > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going >> to >> >> be. >> >> > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that >> I >> >> > decided we should tour Southern MD. >> >> > >> >> > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop >> on >> >> US >> >> > 1 >> >> > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed >> >> across >> >> > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We >> >> followed >> >> > MD >> >> > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on >> >> >MD >> >> > 225 >> >> > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its >> hard >> >> to >> >> > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this >> road >> >> it >> >> > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close >> to >> >> DC. >> >> > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout >> marks >> >> on >> >> > the asphalt from drag racing. >> >> > >> >> > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. >> >> Still >> >> > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is >> >> nothing >> >> > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to >> >> show >> >> > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to >> >> > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD >> >> >6. >> >> > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a >> >break >> >> > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only >> >> > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned >> gas >> >> > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La >> >> Plata >> >> > to >> >> > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD >> >> 231. >> >> > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent >> >> > River. >> >> > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We >> >stopped >> >> > at >> >> > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice >> enough >> >> to >> >> > go >> >> > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at >> >> 11:30 >> >> > AM. >> >> > >> >> > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD >> >> 2/4. >> >> > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on >> >> > Wilson >> >> > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an >> immediate >> >> > right >> >> > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into >> >> > Chesapeake Beach >> >> > >> >> > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille >> >> > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group >> >> > through >> >> > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed >> north >> >> on >> >> > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We >> >> > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. 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It isn't really slowing down the bike speed wise as much as the wider the tires both front and rear the slower the steering characteristics of the bike with out changing anything else such as ride height , etc . If you get too big of width on there with a narrow rim your contact patch (area which actually makes contact with the road surface) will actually get smaller/ less effective .... On the 600 which weighs more has a little more hp I would stick around to the 150-160 range but wouldn't go wider ..... Rich Fish akimoto@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 14:45:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA16510; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:45:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA29582; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:44:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA27885; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:44:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:47:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:47:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain You all are quite welcome. When it warms up some I'll be glad to lead another all the way to Point Lookout with lunch or dinner in Solomans Island. Glenn > BTW, thanks to Glenn for a great ride & a great restaurant > pick!! > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 15:04:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA17161; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA00401; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA28905; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:04:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD527E.3E1F2F70@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:57:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:57:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah... ok.... We hear you.... -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX >[SMTP:Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 2:15 PM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >okay okay, so I dropped my bike...I was just testing those case gaurds I >picked up a few months ago. Yep, just like I thought - they're strong! >:-) > >-Doug > > > > > > (Embedded > image moved "Clements, Curtis A" at > to file: AMS-Internet > PIC02679.PCX) 03/18/98 11:06 AM > > > > >To: Dysart@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL, dc-cycles@XXXXXX at > AMS-Internet@CCMAIL, jlobrien@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL, > zell@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL >cc: (bcc: Douglas Brashear/AMS/AMSINC) >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > > >I don't think I'll tell you about Jeannette's plan to split the money >from you insurance with the rest of the list > > >---------- >From: Tom Zell[SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:39 AM >To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >And another thing... I already have the life insurance policy!!! >Hey... >maybe it wasn't oil after all.... How close was Jeannette when I went >down??? LOL >: ) > >-Tom > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:18 AM >>To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; 'O'Brien, >>Jeannette' >>Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >>Well Tom Zell started the trip out with a STUNNING 180 in the middle >of >>US1 pulling out of the dough-nut shop. Jeannette came close to running > >>him over. Time for that life insurance policy Tom. >>Curtis >> >>---------- >>From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >>To: Clements, Curtis A; 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; >>'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; O'Brien, Jeannette >>Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >> >>Yeah, fill in with the more "interesting" parts of the trip. >>I also have one that only a few of us saw - at the gas station. >>Wanna do the honors, Doug?? ; ) >> >>- Jeannette >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Clements, Curtis A [SMTP:CAClements@XXXXXX] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 10:14 AM >>> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'; >>> 'O'Brien, Jeannette' >>> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >>> >>> Should I take this one J? >>> Curtis >>> >>> ---------- >>> From: O'Brien, Jeannette[SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >>> To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >>> Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report >>> >>> Hey!! You forgot to mention the little "mishap!!" >>> >>> - Jeannette >>> >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] >>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 9:55 AM >>> > To: O'Brien, Jeannette >>> > Subject: Sunday's other ride report >>> > >>> > J, will you forward this on? >>> > >>> > Glenn >>> > >>> > >>> > Let me first start off by saying Sundays ride was not an >Arlington, >>> > Lorton, Clifton, or Fairfax ride that some thought it was going to >>> be. >>> > The plans for the ride were changed early enough in the week that >I >>> > decided we should tour Southern MD. >>> > >>> > Anyhow, we started the ride off from the Krispy Kreme donut shop >on >>> US >>> > 1 >>> > in Alexandria. After getting our fill of fatty goods we headed >>> across >>> > the WW bridge and went south on MD 210 (Indian Head Hwy). We >>> followed >>> > MD >>> > 210 till it nearly ends in Indian Head, MD and then went south on >>MD >>> > 225 >>> > and then MD 224 staying beside the Potomac River(although its hard >>> to >>> > see through the trees). If any of you have ever been on this road >>> it >>> > has to be the deadest road that I have been on that is so close to >>> DC. >>> > Apparently the locals know this judging from all the burnout marks >>> on >>> > the asphalt from drag racing. >>> > >>> > We followed MD 224 until it ended into MD 6 near Riverside, MD. >>> Still >>> > trying to figure out how Riverside even has a name. There is >>> nothing >>> > there except for the road ending into the river. I was going to >>> show >>> > this to the group but decided not to. We followed MD 6 east to >>> > Ironsides Riverside Rd (MD 425). This road connects back into MD >>6. >>> > Once we got connected with MD 6 again everyone was ready for a >>break >>> > especially Curtis's brother who didn't have any riding gear, only >>> > thermals, jeans, and a sweat shirt. We stopped at an abandoned >gas >>> > station for a few minutes and then continued on MD 6 through La >>> Plata >>> > to >>> > New Market. We then headed north on MD 5 and turned east on MD >>> 231. >>> > This road gave us a nice scenic view coming towards the Patuxent >>> > River. >>> > We also saw a nuclear power plant I didn't know existed. We >>stopped >>> > at >>> > a Mobil to fill up at there *one* 93 pump. Curtis was nice enough >>> to >>> > go >>> > pay the bill and be greeted by the attendant who was slopped at >>> 11:30 >>> > AM. >>> > >>> > After fueling we continued on MD 231 and then headed north on MD >>> 2/4. >>> > We then headed east on Dares Beach Rd (MD 402) and then north on >>> > Wilson >>> > Rd. We turned left on Plum Point Rd (MD 263) and then an immediate >>> > right >>> > (north) onto Breezy/Tobacco Road (MD 261). We followed this into >>> > Chesapeake Beach >>> > >>> > In Chesapeake Beach we ate at Lagoons Island Grille >>> > (http://www.lagoons.com/). After a decent meal I took the group >>> > through >>> > the last leg of the ride along the Chesapeake Bay. We headed >north >>> on >>> > MD 261 and then north on Fairhaven Rd which connects to MD 2. We >>> > continued on MD 2 to Bay Front Rd (MD 258) west towards MD 4. We >>> > headed >>> > north on MD 4 to the beltway where Jeanette and Tom continued on >>and >>> > the >>> > rest of jumped on the beltway and headed home. >>> > >>> > Let see if I can remember all the riders >>> > >>> > Glenn Dysart VF500C >>> > Curtis Clements CBR900RR >>> > Curtis's Brother CBR600 ? >>> > Richard Westbrook VFR750 >>> > Jeannette O'Brien VF500F >>> > Tom Zell VF750F ? >>> > ?????? on a new CBR600 F3 >>> > ?????? on a Suzuki GS750? >>> > >> > >(See attached file: RFC822.TXT) > > > > << File: PIC02679.PCX >> << File: RFC822.TXT >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 15:20:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA17486; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:20:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA00983; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:20:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA29532; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:20:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD5280.8C8CEF60@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:14:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:14:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds good to me! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 2:48 PM >To: O'Brien, Jeannette; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >You all are quite welcome. When it warms up some I'll be glad to lead >another all the way to Point Lookout with lunch or dinner in Solomans >Island. > >Glenn > > >> BTW, thanks to Glenn for a great ride & a great restaurant >> pick!! >> >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 16:17:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA18394; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:17:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02443; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01584; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:16:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1QTTa21801 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:15:04 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE Message-ID: <4f8748a2.3510395b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:15:04 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: dc cycles garage sale? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 Hi all, When I was living in California, I used to have motorcycle garage sales every now and then. It was fun, and I've been wondering if there would be enough interest here to make it worth doing. I had left over things from several motorcycles I no longer owned, and I had bought a wrecked BMW cheap and parted it out. There were milk crates of parts everywhere. (How many of your garages look like that?). I ran an ad in a weekly local paper that said something like "motorcycle garage sale - several years accumulation of japanese and european bike parts, old magazines, leathers etc. Come to shop, or come to sell your stuff - no charge for vendor space to private sellers (no dealers)" It worked really well. About ten people showed up to sell stuff. I had met one or two of them before, but most were total strangers. About 50 people showed up throughout the day to see what there was to buy, and everyone sold enough to go away happy. The camaraderie factor was good too. I did the same thing a couple more times with a little better advertising. I'd like to do it again at my house in Silver Spring, if other enough other people are interested. I don't have a date in mind, and I haven't thought about any other details yet either. If anyone is interested, I'd like to hear about it. Colleen From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 16:26:31 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA18543; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:26:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA03027; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:26:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from sundown.northgrum.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01905; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from puff.northgrum.com (puff.northgrum.com [157.127.103.139]) by sundown.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA27522 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:26:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from xcgca007.northgrum.com ([157.127.103.78]) by puff.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA01152 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:26:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by XCGCA007 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:26:08 -0800 Message-ID: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF567@xcgva001.grumman.com> From: "Meier, Christopher" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "'Chris Norloff'" Subject: RE: Charging Question Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:26:12 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Chris, I think he meant to say (or rather, I interpreted what he said to mean) that a car alternator produces enough output to charge regardless of RPM, but a bike needs a certain level of RPM to produce a charge. --chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Christopher A. Meier meierch@XXXXXX Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA 1994 RF900R AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ > ---------- > From: Chris Norloff[SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 11:20 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Charging Question > > Actually, you said- > > ">I just think the output of MC alternators just isn't up to supply > enough > >power > >regardless of RPM, unlike a cage." > > No offense intended, that was just the part I was focusing on. Yes, > MC > charging systems are not great (why!?). The systems are adequate if > you > keep everything up, and don't use any extra accessories. When you > start > adding accessories, you start adding the need to monitor the condition > more > closely. > > It's also important to know that low rpm idling will not charge the > battery > like it does in a car. > > Charge! > Chris Norloff > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 16:48:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA19138; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA04163; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA03015; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:48:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA01568; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:48:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA12793; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980318214758.FNGV27632@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:47:58 -0600 Message-ID: <3510410E.645F36C1@mci.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:47:58 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MotorLE CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: dc cycles garage sale? References: <4f8748a2.3510395b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Colleen, This sounds like a wonderful idea! With a little bit of advertising, we could probably get quite a turnout! Dale (the Horkster) MotorLE wrote: > > Hi all, > > When I was living in California, I used to have motorcycle garage sales every > now and then. It was fun, and I've been wondering if there would be enough > interest here to make it worth doing. > > I had left over things from several motorcycles I no longer owned, and I had > bought a wrecked BMW cheap and parted it out. There were milk crates of parts > everywhere. (How many of your garages look like that?). I ran an ad in a > weekly local paper that said something like "motorcycle garage sale - several > years accumulation of japanese and european bike parts, old magazines, > leathers etc. Come to shop, or come to sell your stuff - no charge for vendor > space to private sellers (no dealers)" > > It worked really well. About ten people showed up to sell stuff. I had met one > or two of them before, but most were total strangers. About 50 people showed > up throughout the day to see what there was to buy, and everyone sold enough > to go away happy. The camaraderie factor was good too. I did the same thing a > couple more times with a little better advertising. > > I'd like to do it again at my house in Silver Spring, if other enough other > people are interested. I don't have a date in mind, and I haven't thought > about any other details yet either. > > If anyone is interested, I'd like to hear about it. > > Colleen From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 16:57:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA19332; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA04731; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA03323; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD528E.AAC801F0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:55:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: dc cycles garage sale? Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:55:32 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 36 TEXT Yes! even if Dale doesn't think so - don't we have enough junk to put into one of these things? ---------- From: MotorLE[SMTP:MotorLE@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 4:15 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: dc cycles garage sale? Hi all, When I was living in California, I used to have motorcycle garage sales every now and then. It was fun, and I've been wondering if there would be enough interest here to make it worth doing. I had left over things from several motorcycles I no longer owned, and I had bought a wrecked BMW cheap and parted it out. There were milk crates of parts everywhere. (How many of your garages look like that?). I ran an ad in a weekly local paper that said something like "motorcycle garage sale - several years accumulation of japanese and european bike parts, old magazines, leathers etc. Come to shop, or come to sell your stuff - no charge for vendor space to private sellers (no dealers)" It worked really well. About ten people showed up to sell stuff. I had met one or two of them before, but most were total strangers. About 50 people showed up throughout the day to see what there was to buy, and everyone sold enough to go away happy. The camaraderie factor was good too. I did the same thing a couple more times with a little better advertising. I'd like to do it again at my house in Silver Spring, if other enough other people are interested. I don't have a date in mind, and I haven't thought about any other details yet either. If anyone is interested, I'd like to hear about it. Colleen From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 17:25:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA19730; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:25:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA05404; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA04168; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:25:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD5291.F1A6ADD0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:19:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'MotorLE'" Cc: "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: dc cycles garage sale? Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:18:59 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Especially if people have 86-87 VFR parts for sale!!! I need plastic!!! -Tom '86 VFR750 >-----Original Message----- >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 4:48 PM >To: MotorLE >Cc: DC Cycles List >Subject: Re: dc cycles garage sale? > >Colleen, > >This sounds like a wonderful idea! >With a little bit of advertising, >we could probably get quite a turnout! > >Dale (the Horkster) > > >MotorLE wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> When I was living in California, I used to have motorcycle garage sales >>every >> now and then. It was fun, and I've been wondering if there would be enough >> interest here to make it worth doing. >> >> I had left over things from several motorcycles I no longer owned, and I >>had >> bought a wrecked BMW cheap and parted it out. There were milk crates of >>parts >> everywhere. (How many of your garages look like that?). I ran an ad in a >> weekly local paper that said something like "motorcycle garage sale - >>several >> years accumulation of japanese and european bike parts, old magazines, >> leathers etc. Come to shop, or come to sell your stuff - no charge for >>vendor >> space to private sellers (no dealers)" >> >> It worked really well. About ten people showed up to sell stuff. I had met >>one >> or two of them before, but most were total strangers. About 50 people >>showed >> up throughout the day to see what there was to buy, and everyone sold >>enough >> to go away happy. The camaraderie factor was good too. I did the same thing >>a >> couple more times with a little better advertising. >> >> I'd like to do it again at my house in Silver Spring, if other enough other >> people are interested. I don't have a date in mind, and I haven't thought >> about any other details yet either. >> >> If anyone is interested, I'd like to hear about it. >> >> Colleen From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 17:30:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA19896; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:30:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA05483; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA04479; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:30:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id QNEEa11675; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:29:50 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:29:50 EST To: zell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: dc cycles garage sale? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 >Especially if people have 86-87 VFR parts for sale!!! I need plastic!!! I sure don't. I've got a big pile of early 702 bmw parts and a bigger pile of leather. Colleen http://members.aol.com/motorle/index.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 17:58:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA20955; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06208; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:58:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from the.martinagency.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06280; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:58:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by the.martinagency.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA20072 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:51:07 -0800 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:57:41 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:59:04 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, zell@XXXXXX Subject: engine shop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Forgive another newbie question. Suppose a guy wanted to have a shop install a big bore kit into his trusty old 900 Ninja . . . in the interest of safer overtaking, of course. I'm sure there'd be some carb tuning involved and whatnot to achieve the desired powerband (BIG midrange). Anyone in the Commonwealth had a quality experience in this situation? How is Fast Lane Cycles in Chantilly? Thanks in advance. BTW, good more important than cheap. Joe 85 Ninja Richmond From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 18:24:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA21320; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:24:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA06519; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA07087; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:24:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA24112; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:23:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:23:15 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: JOE NAGY cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, zell@XXXXXX Subject: Re: engine shop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Rick Beggs (owner of Fast Lane) is a good guy, but if you're looking to get that work done - you'd best wait till the fall when he has some time to do it - otherwise you'll be without ride for a long time (race season is upon us, and things get hectic). That's pretty much going to be the case whereever you go right now. You might want to look into shipping your jugs off to someone (I don't know who was good with the mid-80s bikes, but find out and have them do the work) - That's all in my humble opinion. On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, JOE NAGY wrote: > Anyone in the Commonwealth had a quality experience in this situation? > How is Fast Lane Cycles in Chantilly? > Thanks in advance. BTW, good more important than cheap. Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 20:42:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA23143; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:42:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA08983; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10457; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:41:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-217-155.pitb.grid.net [207.205.217.155]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA11981; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:41:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980318204311.006a2e20@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:43:11 -0500 To: MotorLE From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: RE: dc cycles garage sale? Cc: zell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Colleen, Bob's BMW is having a "flea market" during their open house (sorry, I don't know the date). Individuals can set up a stand and sell their stuff. It might be a good way to get rid of your BMW parts. Harry At 05:29 PM 3/18/98 EST, MotorLE wrote: > >>Especially if people have 86-87 VFR parts for sale!!! I need plastic!!! > >I sure don't. I've got a big pile of early 702 bmw parts and a bigger pile of >leather. > >Colleen > >http://members.aol.com/motorle/index.html > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 21:57:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA23893; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA09852; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:57:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA11658; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id TCLOa09328; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:54:40 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE Message-ID: <358650a2.351088f3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:54:40 EST To: hgg@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: RE: dc cycles garage sale? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 >Bob's BMW is having a "flea market" during their open house (sorry, I >don't know the date). Individuals can set up a stand and sell their stuff. >It might be a good way to get rid of your BMW parts. Oh, I'll be at that one. It's April 25th. Colleen From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 22:00:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA23960; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:00:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA09872; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:59:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA11690; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:59:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-18.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.59]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA08135 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:59:53 -0500 Message-ID: <016801bd52e3$4ab3e7c0$3b10b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: Subject: AMA (was Re: Smart Tag/Fast Toll . . .) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:01:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 -----Original Message----- From: JOE NAGY >DC-ers, >You guys need to take this up with the AMA's legal people. They have an >office with a full-time staff in DC. It's this kind of crap that made >me join in the first place. Good Luck. >Joe >Richmond > I had the luck (as a relative MC issue neophyte) to be allowed to attend an AMA lobbying seminar in DC a month or so ago, and came away both informed and impressed (my reasons for desiring to attend were lofty and wide-ranging). I'll make this short. o Intelligent Vehicle Highway Systems, a NHTSA program, are under (every 7? year) federal consideration, and AMA is deeply committed to making sure motorcycles don't get short shrift in this cycle. There is an interview of Rob Dingman, AMA's DC man on the spot, in the Spring 1998 *Twistgrip*, explaining this current situation. (MC Fast Tolls may be at issue, though I didn't see them mentioned.) o European "safetycrat" efforts are a-building and are seen as an increasing future threat to our hardware/riding choices as the EC becomes THE major world MC market. Mfrs will give the biggest market build design priority. AMA Pres Ed Youngblood lays it out in the latest American Motorcyclist http://www.ama-cycle.org/magazine/1998/story1ap.html These two back-area processes are potential lurking silent killers of motorcycling freedom, and the AMA is professionally standing up for us. (With other issues also, of course). If they don't do it, who will? Been there in other arenas, and head-in-the-sand won't work on our crowding planet. So, I say, if one is concerned, become involved. Join/participate in the AMA. 1 800 AMA JOIN. The Government Relations office there can guide participation directions. Not professionally connected to the above -- Bill Swanson / DC EN500 LTD Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 22:04:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA24035; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA10003; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA11771; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:03:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA18170 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:03:24 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803190303.VAA18170@dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com> Received: from lbg-va2-01.ix.netcom.com(205.186.72.65) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma017922; Wed Mar 18 21:02:14 1998 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Hank" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:27:03 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 03/18/98 Reply-to: conteh@XXXXXX X-Confirm-Reading-To: conteh@XXXXXX X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Folks, Could I ask a favor? I subscribe to the digest version of this list and it's taking longer and longer to get thlrough it. Do we have to forward the entire message every time we want to comment on it? This last digest must have had at least twenty copies of the Sunday ride in Maryland story. Every time someone wanted to comment, they forwarded the whole thing. Just the subject, or at most a couple of lines would be enough to let people know what you are referring to. I'm about to burn out my scroll down button. Standing by for flames, Hank From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 18 22:10:08 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA24110; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:10:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA10096; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:10:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA11905; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:09:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-35-148.s148.tnt9.brd.erols.com [207.172.35.148]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA27715 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:09:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35108CC2.475550D1@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:10:58 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [Fwd: engine shop] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A8ED4AB5839BBF4F1F3375B3" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A8ED4AB5839BBF4F1F3375B3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hate it when I forget to reply all when I meant to... -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) --------------A8ED4AB5839BBF4F1F3375B3 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <35108C73.47B25FB6@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:09:39 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JOE NAGY Subject: Re: engine shop References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe, As Brian mentioned, Rick is pretty good, but will likely be swamped with race season fast approaching. Also with Rick, he has a tendency to tune things waaaay rich...works great for the racers, but I've run across a couple of people that had problems with the mixture not working to well in real world riding. He can probably get the more horsepower out of your machine than most anyone around here though... they managed to get a friend's older FZR6 into the 90's at the rear wheel... -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) --------------A8ED4AB5839BBF4F1F3375B3-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 01:18:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA26525; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:18:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA13784; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA15248; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:17:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.37] (unverified [207.226.128.37]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:16:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: RE: dc cycles garage sale? Date: Thu, 19 Mar 98 01:17:41 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "MotorLE" , , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Oh, I'll be at that one. It's April 25th. Guess I can delete the email I just wrote:) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 06:36:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA28964; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA19159; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:36:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA18345; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:36:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA27871 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:36:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:36:02 -0500 (EST) From: Julie and/or Mark Holm To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: List and HCS Letter Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII First of all, I sent out the letter to Herndon Cycle Sports yesterday afternoon, so they should get it today. I'll wait and see what happens after they get it and report back to the list. I will post the full letter to the list from work later today. Also, could you folks have some pity on those of us in digest mode? Cut the original quote in your replies. The route sent yesterday was really really neat, but only the first ten or so times. I think it was in there (and I paged through it) 15 times. Please!!!! This is very annoying. I really prefer digest mode, and although I like the list, I often stop reading because it is jus SOOOO LONG. A little editing would do the trick nicely! Julie --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Julie Holm (ENTP)| DoD #1604 AMA#397939 UKMC# 0001 VOC# 4672 holm@XXXXXX | 1985 Virago 700 "Maureen" | I'm home at http://www.ziplink.net/~holm NGG Webmistress | Remember the PINK PAGES are always changing (Just and Armourer | like a Nasty Girlie's mind!) | NGG home page http://www.ziplink.net/~holm/ngg/ngg.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 07:08:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA29261; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:08:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA19531; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA18593; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:08:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id DAA21402 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:22:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:22:49 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: Other Passtimes.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, seing as I don't have the opportunity to go out and ride on my days off, I have to pass the time in other ways. Being a die-hard MCist, I tend to brush up on reading things I should have a long time ago.. like a copy of 'Twist of the Wrist' - and a particularly good book called 'The Perfect Vehicle: What it is about Motorcycles' by Melissa Holbrook Pierson. A very interesting read (I picked it up and didn't want to put it down). I'd recomend it to anyone that was unable to ride (or unwilling if it's to cold for their tastes). Helped me pass time on my 'weekend'.. Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 07:39:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA29482; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA20161; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:38:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.netsus.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA18974; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24924 invoked from network); 19 Mar 1998 13:02:27 -0000 Received: from sun.vais.net (tgallo@XXXXXX) by mail.netsus.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 1998 13:02:27 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:38:38 -0500 (EST) From: DIAL|MB|Tom Gallo To: JOE NAGY cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, zell@XXXXXX Subject: Re: engine shop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try Cycle Performance Engineering in Clinton, MD. They have buitl a lot of fast Kawasakis. Actually, they only work on Kaws and Suzukis! They are a little bit on the expensive side, but if you want good work, I 'd go with them! Tom 95 GSXR7/11 On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, JOE NAGY wrote: > Forgive another newbie question. Suppose a guy wanted to have a shop > install a big bore kit into his trusty old 900 Ninja . . . in the > interest of safer overtaking, of course. > I'm sure there'd be some carb tuning involved and whatnot to achieve > the desired powerband (BIG midrange). > Anyone in the Commonwealth had a quality experience in this situation? > How is Fast Lane Cycles in Chantilly? > Thanks in advance. BTW, good more important than cheap. > > Joe > 85 Ninja > Richmond > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 07:40:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA29493; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:40:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA20179; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:40:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA18986; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21583 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:40:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25895 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:40:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803191240.HAA25895@shell.clark.net> Subject: HOT Lanes To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:40:18 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On the news and in the newspapers today, there was some talk about possibly creating HOT lanes. (HOT - High Occupancy/Toll) This is modeled after a system in use in California. High Occupancy vehicles would use the lanes free as they currently do. Vehicles with one person would pay a toll to use the lane(s). The toll could vary depending on how much traffic exists on the lane. Less traffic = more toll. Of course this is one of many ideas that has been tossed about lately. But if it does come to pass, I think we may need to keep a close eye on it to make sure single rider motorcycles don't suddenly get slapped with a toll (recalling Leon's article about the history of Motorcycles and HOV regulations, it wasn't something automatic from Virginia). As the AMA points out at times: When road regulations are being considered, they usually don't think about motorcycles. (For example, in VA a motorcycle with a side-car is charged a higher toll for a third axle! A bill is currently in the works to correct the oversight, but after the fact) Anyone else hear anything about this? Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 08:09:31 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA29936; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:09:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA20656; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:09:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19683; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:09:20 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:11:50 -0500 Received: from WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL [160.151.107.198] by dclink.com with smtp id AIALCFEP ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:11:38 -0500 Reply-To: "Jay" From: "Jay" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" , Subject: Re: Sunday's other ride report Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:14:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd5338$f1bb4d60$c66b97a0@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Glenn, Let me know. I'd like to go on that one! Jay -----Original Message----- From: Dysart@XXXXXX To: Jaynik Date: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 3:21 PM Subject: RE: Sunday's other ride report > >You all are quite welcome. When it warms up some I'll be glad to lead >another all the way to Point Lookout with lunch or dinner in Solomans >Island. > >Glenn > > >> BTW, thanks to Glenn for a great ride & a great restaurant >> pick!! >> >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 08:34:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA00549; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA21601; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA20426; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:34:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA20902 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:34:16 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:34:16 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: HOT Lanes Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:36:18 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 8 TEXT >For example, in VA a motorcycle with a side-car is charged a higher toll for a third axle! Louis, does this mean that the ELF prototype (bike supported on wheel rims - no axles) would be able to ride toll-free?? Michael J. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 08:40:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA00690; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA21789; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA20623; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:40:07 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565CC.004B7BE2 ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:44:29 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565CC.004AF2EA.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:40:19 -0500 Subject: Re: Sunday's other ride report Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=ToGAQxfglySf9Re35jWS7nKC5dVWzli77iLxPs2xci9REVkxFAFHqmNm" --0__=ToGAQxfglySf9Re35jWS7nKC5dVWzli77iLxPs2xci9REVkxFAFHqmNm Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I didn't want to be the only one that didn't thank Glenn for that great ride on Sunday...fantastic route and great, solid food both for breakfast and lunch! -Doug GS 750L douglas_brashear@XXXXXX (Embedded image moved "Jay" at AMS-Internet to file: 03/19/98 08:23 AM PIC26742.PCX) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL, Dysart@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL cc: (bcc: Douglas Brashear/AMS/AMSINC) Subject: Re: Sunday's other ride report Glenn, Let me know. 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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:46:18 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 13 TEXT >European "safetycrat" efforts are a-building and are seen as an >increasing future threat to our hardware/riding choices as the EC becomes >THE major world MC market. For those wanting to keep a closer eye on Europe - the FEM (Federation of European Motorcyclists) has a mailing list (not much traffic - 3-4messages/month) highlighting what's happening over there. List server: FEM-INFO-Request@XXXXXX Administrative questions to: FEM-INFO@XXXXXX Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 08:45:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA00825; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:45:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA21933; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:45:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA20800; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:45:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:01:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "Meier, Christopher" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "'Chris Norloff'" Subject: RE: Charging Question Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:01:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain No, what I meant to say was that a car can run off its alternator and bikes cannot (well most street ones that I have seen). A bike needs the battery to run when a car only needs the battery to start and reserve power that the alternator cannot handle. Charging was not what I was talking about at all. Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna > I think he meant to say (or rather, I interpreted what he said to > mean) > that a car alternator produces enough output to charge regardless of > RPM, but a bike needs a certain level of RPM to produce a charge. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 09:17:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01619; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:17:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22650; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21994; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA24873; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:15:36 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFAAD@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'MotorLE'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: dc cycles garage sale? Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:16:09 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I'd definitely be interested in checking out the leather... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: MotorLE [SMTP:MotorLE@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 5:30 PM > To: zell@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: RE: dc cycles garage sale? > > > >Especially if people have 86-87 VFR parts for sale!!! I need > plastic!!! > > I sure don't. I've got a big pile of early 702 bmw parts and a bigger > pile of > leather. > > Colleen > > http://members.aol.com/motorle/index.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 09:20:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01663; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22719; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22043; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A989608028A; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:19:53 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980319083057.00f096f0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:30:57 -0500 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <350EF953.2CF21845@illuminet.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's nice! I knew Federally-funded roads were open, but this means roads such as Rte 1 through Alexandria are also open to bikes! (Might want to carry a copy of that portion of the code with you just in case). Chris Norloff ********************************************************** At 05:29 PM 3/17/98 -0500, Leon Begeman wrote: >Section 33.1-46.2 of Virginia Code states in part >"(N)o designation of any lane or lanes of any >highway as HOV lanes shall apply to the use of any such lanes by: > >"1. Emergency vehicles such as fire-fighting vehicles, ambulances, and= rescue >squad vehicles, > >"2. Law-enforcement vehicles, > >"3. Motorcycles, > >"4. Vehicles of public utility companies operating in response to an emergency >call, or > >"5. Until July 1, 1999, vehicles bearing clean special fuel vehicle license >plates issued pursuant to =A746.2-749.3." > >If the lanes are subject to Virginia law and are called HOV lanes, motorcycles >may use them. > >Leon. > >Whiteside, John wrote: > >> Their lit says that the system works only for passenger cars and trucks with >> the transponder installed according to their directions. So, I imagine their >> response would be, "It's not our problem, we told you it doesn't work on >> motorcycles (or any other nonstandard vehicle)." >> >> Another toll road question: anyone heard whether the HOV lanes opening on it >> later this year will be open to bikes? >> >> John Whiteside >> Marketing Specialist >> EIS International >> Phone: (703) 326-8386 * Fax (703) 787-6720 >> jwhiteside@XXXXXX >> http://www.eisi.com >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 4:24 PM >> > To: Jordan, Michael >> > Cc: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >> > Subject: Re: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles >> > >> > If this is indeed the problem, then the solution is to bring it to= their >> > attention. Isn't there a sign that indicates the speed at which you= are >> > supposed to go through this thing? If so, ride at exactly that speed, >> > with >> > the transponder in plain sight on the bike and follow their= instructions >> > exactly. Let the alarm go off a few times. After about the 5th time= or >> > so, >> > they'll get to know you and will fix the problem. If you have paid for >> > the >> > device, it's their responsibility to make sure it works. Of course it >> > could >> > backfire and they won't let bikes use them at all. >> > >> > Leon. >> > >> > Jordan, Michael wrote: >> > >> > > Hopping firmly on my soapbox... >> > > >> > > The system works basically like this; >> > > >> > > As you approach the toll gate, a sensor buried in the road tells the >> > > system that a vehicle is approaching the gate. The= transmitter/receiver >> > > in the gate (the square thing above the lane) sends a pulse to the >> > > transponder in/on your vehicle. >> > > >> > > The reflected pulse is encoded by the transponder (I believe that it's a >> > > totally passive device, but can't confirm that) and is read by the >> > > receiver, debiting your account and disabling the exit alarm. >> > > >> > > I am somewhat confused by Fastoll/Smartag's stance on not setting the >> > > sensitivity of the approach sensors high enough to sense a motorcycle as >> > > they seem to have no problems in setting the sensitivity of the >> > > you-haven't-paid-your-toll sensor high enough to read a motorcycle. >> > > >> > > (I was told by one of the managers when they first started Fastoll= that >> > > they set the sensitivity low in order to preclude a false reading from a >> > > car in an adjacent lane - sounded spurious at the time and still= does) >> > > >> > > Hmmm, I wonder how many of us are AMA members? >> > > >> > > Michael J >> > > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 09:20:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01668; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22725; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22048; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A990608028A; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:00 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980319084512.00f53350@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:45:12 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFA7A@badge.tuckerflyer.c om> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:07 AM 3/18/98 -0500, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: >Another thing that really bugs me in the morning: cars parking in the >motorcycle only spaces. (I park at 17th & M) They NEVER get tickets, >either!! >What's going to happen in the summer when there are more of us riders >trying to park there!!?? Here's what I've done: 1. Left polite notes on the windshield asking them to park in car spaces. 2. Called the DC parking office at 541-6031, and told them the location of the violator. 3. Looked for a parking patrol officer and reported the violator. 4. Repainted the lines to make it more obvious that it's not an extension of the nearby car parking ($2 roll of masking tape, $5 can of traffic paint (it works upside down)). I've also thought about getting some of those concrete "logs" that cars rest their front wheels on when they stop in a parking space. Two of three of those would probably keep any car from parallel parking there, with minimal impact on bikes parking diagonally. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 09:20:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01670; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22726; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22046; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A98C608028A; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:19:56 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980319083809.00f507d0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:38:09 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] In-Reply-To: <081e01bd521d$bccfb4e0$3410b1cd@newmicronpc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:53 PM 3/17/98 -0500, mobacc wrote: >Thousands of new meters are slated for DC install to replace the many ugly >beheaded posts now present (and stanch the revenue loss). Perhaps, just >perhaps, parking process order and decorum will follow. That space bears >watching. I wonder how much "revenue loss" there really is? All the papers have said the same thing (based, I'm sure, on DC parking administration press releases). But right now, people are ticketed for being too long in one spot, even if there is no meter to pay (the signs and the meters tell you how long you can park in one spot, basically it's usually the max. time the meter can be set for). The parking patrol never ticketed cars if the meters were paid, even if the car was parked too long there. So now they ticket people without giving them a chance to pay. Once the new meters go in, people will be allowed to pay again -- I wonder if the parking patrol will ticket cars with paid meters, if the cars park too long! That would really get people's blood boiling! DC corruption & inefficiency -- it's not just a job, it's a way of life. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 09:20:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01678; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22747; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22062; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A995608028A; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:05 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980319085017.00f5cc40@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:50:17 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Sign 1: An arrow pointing in both directions, reading "No standing or >parking 4:30 PM to 6:30 PM" >Sign 2, just above it: An arrow pointing in both directions, reading "No >standing or parking anytime." > >I think what they meant was that in front of the sign up to the corner, no >parking ever; behind the sign, no parking between 4:30 and 6:30. But what >the signs really said were two contradictory things. > >No wonder people have trouble figuring out what's legal. What a pain! You might try writing to Dr. Gridlock, in The Washington Post. Include a picture if you can, 'cause they love printing those kind of pictures. You might call the DC parking administration and report it. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting, but the parking administration appears to be one of the few areas of DC government that "work". Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 09:20:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01683; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22761; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22073; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A99B608028A; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:11 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980319085224.00f538b0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:52:24 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: HCS and accident In-Reply-To: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF563@xcgva001.grumman.co m> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:21 AM 3/18/98 -0500, Meier, Christopher wrote: >Remember that your $10 inspection fee includes TWO inspections. >The initial one AND a follow-up to check that you have fixed the >problem. Are you sure about this? Or is up to the individual station? The last two vehicles I had rejected (a bike and a truck), the station charged a $1 re-inspection fee. It didn't exactly break me :-) but I'm curious if this is legal. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 09:20:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01688; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22767; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22078; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A9A4608028A; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:20 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980319085405.00f5b100@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:54:05 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:27 AM 3/18/98 -0500, Whiteside, John wrote: >I wonder what the rationale is behind letter the motorcycle spots become >open to everyone nights/weekends. I always see cars parked in the cycle >spots at 19th & Q near Dupont Circle on weekends and it annoys me, though >it's legal. Wonder what it would take to get that changed. It would >certainly make going to Dupont Circle easier. I would tend to doubt it's legal, but I expect few parking rules are enforced after the evening rush hour. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 09:20:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01694; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22782; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22082; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A9A8608028A; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:20:24 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980319085819.00f5dcd0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:58:19 -0500 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I commuted from Centreville to downtown DC for about 6 months, using the HOV lanes (Nov 96 - April 97). They're great! Yes there's lots of scofflaws, and you have to watch for them weaving in and out, but overall it was a real boon. It ran fast in the morning, too. 70mph was typical, though it slowed inside Rte 50. Chris Norloff ********************************************* At 09:26 AM 3/18/98 -0500, Tom Zell wrote: >That was my understanding, too.... although I have yet to see HOV really >work(at least on I-66). > >-Tom >'86 VFR750 > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 5:12 PM >>To: 'Whiteside, John'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >>Subject: RE: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles >> >>I thought HOV always had to be open to motorcycles...at least around >>here. Is that not true? >> >>- Jeannette >> >> >>> Another toll road question: anyone heard whether the HOV lanes opening >>> on it >>> later this year will be open to bikes? >>> >>> John Whiteside >>> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 09:45:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01992; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:45:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23547; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:45:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from sundown.northgrum.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22682; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:45:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from puff.northgrum.com (puff.northgrum.com [157.127.103.139]) by sundown.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id GAA17049 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from xcgca007.northgrum.com ([157.127.103.78]) by puff.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id GAA15857 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by XCGCA007 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:45:01 -0800 Message-ID: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF56C@xcgva001.grumman.com> From: "Meier, Christopher" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "'Chris Norloff'" Subject: RE: HCS and accident Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:38:56 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain > ---------- > From: Chris Norloff[SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 8:52 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: HCS and accident > > At 09:21 AM 3/18/98 -0500, Meier, Christopher wrote: > >Remember that your $10 inspection fee includes TWO inspections. > >The initial one AND a follow-up to check that you have fixed the > >problem. > > Are you sure about this? Or is up to the individual station? > > The last two vehicles I had rejected (a bike and a truck), the station > charged a $1 re-inspection fee. It didn't exactly break me :-) but > I'm > curious if this is legal. > Well, I wouldn't bet body parts on it ... and I have only had one vehicle fail an inspection. I took a late 80s BMW 325 to get the emissions inspec and it fail due to the fact that it would not produce a reading on the analyzer. It turned out that the spark plug wires were not giving a reading. I went to the local Trak, replaced the wires, and voila it passed. They told me before I left to bring back the failed test and my receipt. When I did they tested it again for free. Good point, though. I'm not sure if this was policy or just a nice gesture on the part of the shop I went to. --chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Christopher A. Meier meierch@XXXXXX Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA 1994 RF900R AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 09:51:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA02096; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23741; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22888; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:51:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id IAA11419; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:50:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA10681; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:50:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980319145044.LWAD27160@[166.41.242.141]>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 08:50:44 -0600 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:45 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Brian McCoy CC: DC-Cycles list Subject: Re: Other Passtimes.. X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980319145044.LWAD27160@[166.41.242.141]> Brian McCoy wrote: >Well, seing as I don't have the opportunity to go out and ride on my days >off, I have to pass the time in other ways. Being a die-hard MCist, I >tend to brush up on reading things I should have a long time ago.. like a >copy of 'Twist of the Wrist' - and a particularly good book called 'The >Perfect Vehicle: What it is about Motorcycles' by Melissa Holbrook >Pierson. A very interesting read (I picked it up and didn't want to put >it down). I'd recomend it to anyone that was unable to ride (or unwilling >if it's to cold for their tastes). Helped me pass time on my 'weekend'.. Re: The Perfect Vehicle. It is a good read and will keep your attention, though it never really delivers a solid punch. Ms. Holbrook seems to want to say something epiphanous but can't quite get it out. She does a good job describing her experiences in motorcycling (over 10 years and on mostly Moto-Guzzi), but yours will almost certainly vary. One scene I found interesting, and scary was when she describes how her and her boyfriend (the one that got her into motorcycling) get smashed at some restaraunt and ride home. She's a pillion. What interested me about it was that it was neither an advocation of drinking and riding, nor a comment of any kind about the situation. It just simply was. As Brian says, you'll start reading it and want to finish, though once read you may feel a little jipped. Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 10:02:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA02226; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:02:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23968; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:02:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23073; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:02:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id KAA26756; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:02:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma026738; Thu, 19 Mar 98 10:02:20 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:03:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:03:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Actually, I looked at the signs once to see just how justified my annoyance was, and sure enough -- it's legal for cars to park there weekends and (I think) evenings. --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 8:54 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] > > At 09:27 AM 3/18/98 -0500, Whiteside, John wrote: > >I wonder what the rationale is behind letter the motorcycle spots become > >open to everyone nights/weekends. I always see cars parked in the cycle > >spots at 19th & Q near Dupont Circle on weekends and it annoys me, though > >it's legal. Wonder what it would take to get that changed. It would > >certainly make going to Dupont Circle easier. > > I would tend to doubt it's legal, but I expect few parking rules are > enforced after the evening rush hour. > > Chris Norloff > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 10:59:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA03034; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25344; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:58:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24899; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:58:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22440; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:58:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3511407E.DF0A0544@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:57:51 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Norloff CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Smart Tag/Fast Toll & Motorcycles References: <3.0.1.32.19980319085819.00f5dcd0@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I come in every morning on 66 (I get on from rte 7 so all lanes are *supposed* to be HOV). Coming in around 7-7:30 I've found it runs pretty much 70 or so... the only time it really slows down is whenever any kind of moisture on the ground and on really bright sunny mornings... The cops are pretty good about nailing violators on the on-ramps inside the beltway, but personally I wish they'd nail the ones that came in from outside the beltway that just keep on going...Also, IMO, the punishment should be much more severe...as it is, it's just a fine, and most people scoff at it and say the rare time getting caught is worth it (fox news about 2 monhs ago). I think the fine should be $2k or more, and suspension of the license for a month or even more... OK, so I get angry at people that can't deal with HOV... but that's because the violators have driven me to alternate roads on the way home cause 66 is too dangerous and too gridlocked in the afternoon :( Collin Chris Norloff wrote: > 70mph was typical, > though it slowed inside Rte 50. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 11:23:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA03469; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25839; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:23:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26015; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.66.245]) by mtigwc05.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA21417 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:22:43 +0000 Reply-To: "kevin thomas" From: "kevin thomas" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: going away Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:18:59 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd5352$b971ab60$f542440c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Hey, y'all-- I'm gonna be gone for 10 days and will unsubscribe while I'm gone. I'll be back. See ya Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 11:23:46 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA03474; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:23:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25847; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:23:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26024; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:23:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A676D80158; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:23:18 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980319105206.00fbf8b0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:52:06 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Bleah! :-) Chris Norloff ********************************************************** At 10:03 AM 3/19/98 -0500, Whiteside, John wrote: >Actually, I looked at the signs once to see just how justified my annoyance >was, and sure enough -- it's legal for cars to park there weekends and (I >think) evenings. > >--John Whiteside > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 8:54 AM >> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: RE: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes] >> >> At 09:27 AM 3/18/98 -0500, Whiteside, John wrote: >> >I wonder what the rationale is behind letter the motorcycle spots become >> >open to everyone nights/weekends. I always see cars parked in the cycle >> >spots at 19th & Q near Dupont Circle on weekends and it annoys me, though >> >it's legal. Wonder what it would take to get that changed. It would >> >certainly make going to Dupont Circle easier. >> >> I would tend to doubt it's legal, but I expect few parking rules are >> enforced after the evening rush hour. >> >> Chris Norloff >> >> >> > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 11:29:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA03543; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:29:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25964; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:29:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from DONALD.CDER.FDA.GOV by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26194; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:29:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr.cder.fda.gov by fdaserv.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.1-8 #21467) id <01IUUKPJDD748ZH0PV@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:30:46 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:24:55 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta DONALD; Relayed; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:24:55 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:34:18 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy 301-594-5672 FAX 301-480-8329 Subject: FWD: 89 red hawk FS in No. VA To: DC Cycles Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:34:19 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: E1567IHJ2A7O7 X400-MTS-identifier: [;55421191308991/2445423@FDACD] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 This was on the Hawk list. This is a Hawk GT and what you see here is all I know about it. Hawks are one of those bikes that seem to fill the needs of beginners and more experienced riders (not wanting lots of power) equally well. Good for low-mid end racing as well. Kirk *** Hey Hawkers, My 89 Hawk is for sale about 20,000 or so miles on it. A small crack in the rear cowling and a busted turnsignal. Other than that it's a peach. It has never been raced, always treated well: $2,200 If interested please reply to: gomes@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 11:40:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA03672; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26568; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:39:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26586; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:39:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA03957; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:39:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON ([207.152.142.55]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA10225 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:39:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: unsubsribe Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:39:33 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd5355$98f105e0$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 can someone send me the details privately on how to disconnect from the list? Thanks. bergie@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 11:45:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA03749; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:45:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26819; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:45:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26796; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:45:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA25658 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:44:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA20019 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980319164434.MLHI27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:44:34 -0600 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:43 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: Deal's Gap X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980319164434.MLHI27160@[166.41.242.141]> Anyone who knows for sure that they would like to ride to Deal's Gap leaving on the Afternoon of May 21 and returning the 25th, please send to me your name, email account and your bike information (year, make, style). I'm building a webpage for the 'event' and want to get you listed. If you think you WANT to come along, send me the information anyway, and I'll list you, but not confirm you. Here are the confirmations I have: Me, Linda Tanner, Sean Sullivan, Leon Begeman, Dale and Tracy Horstman. tia, Todd +-----------------------------+---------------+ | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | +-----------------------------+---------------+ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 11:58:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA04001; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:57:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27250; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27403; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA13751; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:55:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA06544; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:55:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980319165542.MMTS27160@XXXXXX>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:55:42 -0600 Message-ID: <35114E0E.57E16841@mci.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:55:42 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles List , KZ LTD List , VJMC List Subject: this is priceless Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Want to visit one of the bike rallies? Want to take your >> HD? Don't have a pickup or trailer? It's easy when you know >> the secret! http://www.quiknet.com/~jdenton/day96ct.jpg From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 13:01:09 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA06996; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:01:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01322; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:59:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02003; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:59:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id ACE53C9027A; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:59:01 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980319125427.00fc8b70@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:54:27 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: this is priceless In-Reply-To: <35114E0E.57E16841@mci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:55 AM 3/19/98 -0500, Dale Horstman wrote: >>> Want to visit one of the bike rallies? Want to take your >>> HD? Don't have a pickup or trailer? It's easy when you know >>> the secret! http://www.quiknet.com/~jdenton/day96ct.jpg That's a classic! I just want so see him ride it off! Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 13:09:24 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA07140; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA01704; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:07:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02336; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:07:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.37.3.20] (1Cust189.tnt6.tco2.da.uu.net [153.37.3.189]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20329 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:07:26 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <350FD1F1.1C729A26@mci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:06:44 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: Re: Mattress on the beltway? >Alan -- > >I think you meant to say "slide to rest" ... ;) > >-ph > >Alan Lapp wrote: > >> Quite a few years ago, on the Beltway, I saw a ovloV jacked up on a box >> spring with all 4 wheels off the ground. I can imagine it was a complete >> pain in the ass to get back on terra firma... >> >> It must have been quite a ride: pleasantly jabbering on the cell phone, >> then WHAM! and slide to a stop with the engine spinning wildly because the > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> driving wheels are off the ground... Yeah, I guess he was resting because he was ON A BED! yuck yuck yuck. I crack myself up. Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 13:23:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA07320; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02214; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:22:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02829; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:22:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id NAA16275 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:22:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA06751; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:22:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980319182210.HQPA27632@XXXXXX>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:22:10 -0600 Message-ID: <35116257.C1CAECB7@mci.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:22:15 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Deal's Gap References: <19980319164434.MLHI27160@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, Leon and I are sort of gonna maybe meet you folks down there, since we are planning on doing an IronButt SaddleSore1000. (What that means for the unlearned is: Leave the 24th, ride down, slay the Dragon, and come home, on the 24th.) The 25th will be for sleeping and aspirin popping! But I guess you can include us anyway! :-) Dale Todd Peer wrote: > > Anyone who knows for sure that they would like to ride to Deal's Gap > leaving on the Afternoon of May 21 and returning the 25th, please send > to me your name, email account and your bike information (year, make, > style). > > I'm building a webpage for the 'event' and want to get you listed. > > If you think you WANT to come along, send me the information anyway, > and I'll list you, but not confirm you. > > Here are the confirmations I have: > > Me, Linda Tanner, Sean Sullivan, Leon Begeman, Dale and Tracy Horstman. > > tia, > > Todd > +-----------------------------+---------------+ > | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | > | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | > | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | > +-----------------------------+---------------+ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 13:30:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA07407; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:30:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02407; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:29:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03034; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:29:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD533A.468E6E70@XXXXXX>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:23:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX'" , "'DC Cycles List'" , "'KZ LTD List'" , "'VJMC List'" Subject: RE: this is priceless Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:23:57 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LOL!!!!! Too funny... talk about dedication!!! -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 11:56 AM >To: DC Cycles List; KZ LTD List; VJMC List >Subject: this is priceless > >>> Want to visit one of the bike rallies? Want to take your >>> HD? Don't have a pickup or trailer? It's easy when you know >>> the secret! http://www.quiknet.com/~jdenton/day96ct.jpg From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 13:51:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA07983; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02953; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03989; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:49:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id MAA10981; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:48:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA30218; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980319184857.NBQS4928@XXXXXX>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:48:57 -0500 Message-ID: <35116896.B43429CF@mci.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:48:54 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Zell CC: "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: Re: this is priceless References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's kind of a reverse dedication, though. But then again I would probably perversely enjoy a nice long ride to a rally somewhere, and not worry about "hurting" my bike. Tom Zell wrote: > > LOL!!!!! Too funny... talk about dedication!!! > > -Tom > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Dale Horstman [SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 11:56 AM > >To: DC Cycles List; KZ LTD List; VJMC List > >Subject: this is priceless > > > >>> Want to visit one of the bike rallies? Want to take your > >>> HD? Don't have a pickup or trailer? It's easy when you know > >>> the secret! http://www.quiknet.com/~jdenton/day96ct.jpg From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 14:03:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA08199; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:03:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03316; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:01:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04369; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05877; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:01:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON ([207.152.142.55]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA21642 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:01:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: bye everyone Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:01:37 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd5369$71258e00$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 "Now it's time to say goodbye.." etc etc. Sorry folks I'm selling the ZX11 so I'm dropping from the list until next spring. Hopefully I'll get another bike then, probably an R1 or something.. See/talk to you guys (and gals) next year, until then; ride safe! -Bergie Former '95 zx11/ '89 zx10/and two '86 ninja600's From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 14:45:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA08888; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:45:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04258; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05814; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:43:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id OAA26980; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma026974; Thu, 19 Mar 98 14:43:39 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:44:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: viruses? Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:44:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Is anyone else on the list having virus trouble all of a sudden? For the last 2 days my virus software has detected something and our MIS people have had to come clean it... since this is one of the only places outside of our network that I regularly get stuff from, and my coworkers don't, I'm wondering if someone here has a virus & is unintentionally spreading it. (My virus software (mcafee) couldn't identify the virus.) (You are all running antivirus software, aren't you?) --John Whiteside From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 14:45:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA08893; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:45:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04263; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:44:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from comet.connix.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05821; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:43:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from connix.com (43.ct2.dyn.connix.net [209.66.153.178]) by comet.connix.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA05404; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:42:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351175EE.BB09444E@connix.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:45:51 -0500 From: Beth Braun Organization: Iguana Graphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX CC: DC Cycles List , KZ LTD List , VJMC List Subject: Re: (vjmc) this is priceless References: <35114E0E.57E16841@mci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale Horstman wrote: > >> Want to visit one of the bike rallies? Want to take your > >> HD? Don't have a pickup or trailer? It's easy when you know > >> the secret! http://www.quiknet.com/~jdenton/day96ct.jpg Gives new meaning to the term "Boat Trailer" Beth -- Beth Braun IguanaGraphics beth@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 15:06:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA09291; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:06:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04717; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from DONALD.CDER.FDA.GOV by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06444; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:05:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr.cder.fda.gov by fdaserv.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.1-8 #21467) id <01IUUS8IXY9S8ZGZS2@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:07:06 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:00:11 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta DONALD; Relayed; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:00:11 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:59:54 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy Subject: Re: viruses? In-reply-to: To: DC Cycles , "Whiteside, John" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:59:55 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: E994IHJ38L4H X400-MTS-identifier: [;11005191308991/2446589@FDACD] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 Oh, no John! Don't start a virus scare on the list! Unless your e-mail program is running executables contained in your e-mail you shouldn't be picking up a virus from the list. That is, if you're just reading your e-mail there should be no chance of getting a virus through e-mail. Someone could send you a program (that you'd have to run separately from reading your e-mail) that could give you a virus but I'm positive no one on the list is sending programs around. Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 15:25:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA09649; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04929; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:24:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07104; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:24:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28095; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:24:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35117EC6.4848C4EF@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:23:34 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Whiteside, John" CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: viruses? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well...you really shouldn't be getting viruses because of email....I can't think of anyone sending attachements (other than Doug's silly PCX attachment in his sig file)... An email, even if it had the virus code in it, can't do jack to your system. It needs to be an executable of some sort (com, bat, etc.) and actually be executed to do its ugliness. Pictures won't hurt either.. Even if it's a virus that someone renamed .jpg or such... you would have to change the name back to an executable to cause any damage. I suppose if you're using Wordmail, and someone else here was using Wordmail, you might be able to catch a macro virus, but I'm not sure there.... My bet would be that someone on your network is bringing floppies backa nd forth between an infected machine at home and his/her terminal at the office (we used to have a problem with that here). my $.005 Collin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 15:41:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA09888; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA05209; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07715; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:40:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A2B66040294; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:40:22 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980319153755.00ee9100@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:37:55 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: viruses? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:44 PM 3/19/98 -0500, Whiteside, John wrote: >Is anyone else on the list having virus trouble all of a sudden? For the >last 2 days my virus software has detected something and our MIS people have >had to come clean it... since this is one of the only places outside of our >network that I regularly get stuff from, and my coworkers don't, I'm >wondering if someone here has a virus & is unintentionally spreading it. (My >virus software (mcafee) couldn't identify the virus.) > >(You are all running antivirus software, aren't you?) Nope. I've seen yet another Microsoft Word Virus, the CAP virus, but nothing out of the ordinary. may Microsoft weanies burn in heck, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 15:55:48 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10283; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:55:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA05455; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:55:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08391; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:55:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id PAA03543; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma003530; Thu, 19 Mar 98 15:54:49 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:55:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "Whiteside, John" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: viruses? Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:55:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It seemed highly unlikely but since I'm the only one in the office having the problem, this list came to mind... but sounds like it's not the culprit. back to bike talk. John Whiteside Marketing Specialist EIS International Phone: (703) 326-8386 * Fax (703) 787-6720 jwhiteside@XXXXXX http://www.eisi.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Collin T. Fagan [SMTP:gixer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 3:24 PM > To: Whiteside, John > Cc: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: Re: viruses? > > Well...you really shouldn't be getting viruses because of email....I can't > think > of anyone sending attachements (other than Doug's silly PCX attachment in > his > sig file)... > An email, even if it had the virus code in it, can't do jack to your > system. It > needs to be an executable of some sort (com, bat, etc.) and actually be > executed to do its ugliness. Pictures won't hurt either.. Even if it's a > virus > that someone renamed .jpg or such... you would have to change the name > back to > an executable to cause any damage. > > I suppose if you're using Wordmail, and someone else here was using > Wordmail, > you might be able to catch a macro virus, but I'm not sure there.... > > My bet would be that someone on your network is bringing floppies backa nd > forth > between an infected machine at home and his/her terminal at the office (we > used > to have a problem with that here). > > my $.005 > Collin > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 16:20:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA10876; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:20:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA06092; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:19:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09467; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD5352.A1245B20@XXXXXX>; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:18:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: viruses? Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:18:17 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 29 TEXT Doesn't matter because you can't get viruses through e-mail - only if you run an attached program in a e-mail message could you possibly get a virus. Just the system administrator coming out in me.... Tracy ---------- From: Whiteside, John[SMTP:jwhiteside@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 2:44 PM To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: viruses? Is anyone else on the list having virus trouble all of a sudden? For the last 2 days my virus software has detected something and our MIS people have had to come clean it... since this is one of the only places outside of our network that I regularly get stuff from, and my coworkers don't, I'm wondering if someone here has a virus & is unintentionally spreading it. (My virus software (mcafee) couldn't identify the virus.) (You are all running antivirus software, aren't you?) --John Whiteside From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 16:22:18 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA10907; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA06134; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09495; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id QAA06300; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:21:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma006256; Thu, 19 Mar 98 16:21:07 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:21:49 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: "'tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Whiteside, John" Subject: RE: viruses? Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:21:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain That's what I thought but I wasn't sure... I'm one of those marketing guys! --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX [SMTP:tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 1998 4:18 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; jwhiteside@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: viruses? > > Doesn't matter because you can't get viruses through e-mail - only if you > run an attached program in a e-mail message could you possibly get a > virus. > Just the system administrator coming out in me.... > > Tracy > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 16:27:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA11132; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:27:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA06216; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:26:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09824; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov ([137.187.221.31]) by dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov (8.8.5/8.7.2) with ESMTP id QAA17857; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:25:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35118DF9.88AD4972@dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:28:27 -0500 From: jay goddard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: HawkGT List , "ninja-l@XXXXXX" , vfr list , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , Ducati@XXXXXX, "Griff, David" Subject: Wanted: Arai quantum/s Retro 3 helmet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help! I have this great helmet that has been through it all and it is starting to show it. So I decided to start looking for a new one, there are some ugly helmets out there. I can't find one I really like so I tried finding one like mine, nope no luck. I've tried everywhere, Arai, mail order places, the net, nothing. So now I turn to you. If you could help me find a new Arai Quantum/s Retro 3 helmet in Silver, blue and purple I will pay a small finders fee. Thanks alot, Sorry for the WOB Jay Goddard From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 16:31:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA11252; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:31:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA06389; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:30:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from the.martinagency.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA10070; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by the.martinagency.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA26055 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:23:17 -0800 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:29:50 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:30:48 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: zell@XXXXXX, Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: this is priceless -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline >>> Dale Horstman - 3/19/98 1:48 PM >>> It's kind of a reverse dedication, though. But then again I would probably perversely enjoy a nice long ride to a rally somewhere, and not worry about "hurting" my bike. Is that what they're worried about? "Hurting" their bikes? I just assumed most of them were just candyasses. Joe From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 16:37:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA11346; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA06681; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:36:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA10252; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:36:26 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 852565CC.007714ED ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:40:41 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565CC.00768A80.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:37:21 -0500 Subject: Re: viruses? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=K2Eieo8fgCukcgbFQDTMzq4SQ2iB24C0GDoQdpq651Op95INKPQLRfkm" --0__=K2Eieo8fgCukcgbFQDTMzq4SQ2iB24C0GDoQdpq651Op95INKPQLRfkm Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yeah, sorry about that PCX file... :-/ we use Lotus Notes and I can't figure out how to read in text form only (without the goofy letterheads)...sometimes people only get the PCX file, and not the text of my messages (though that was on a Mac). I'm running MacAfee also and haven't had any problems. Our firewall is supposed to clean out all the viruses, though, so even if there were a virus going around the list it might not make it to my workstation. -Doug douglas_brashear@XXXXXX (Embedded image moved "Collin T. Fagan" at to file: AMS-Internet PIC02094.PCX) 03/19/98 03:49 PM To: jwhiteside@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at AMS-Internet@CCMAIL (bcc: Douglas Brashear/AMS/AMSINC) Subject: Re: viruses? Well...you really shouldn't be getting viruses because of email....I can't think of anyone sending attachements (other than Doug's silly PCX attachment in his sig file)... An email, even if it had the virus code in it, can't do jack to your system. It needs to be an executable of some sort (com, bat, etc.) and actually be executed to do its ugliness. Pictures won't hurt either.. Even if it's a virus that someone renamed .jpg or such... you would have to change the name back to an executable to cause any damage. I suppose if you're using Wordmail, and someone else here was using Wordmail, you might be able to catch a macro virus, but I'm not sure there.... 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"Have I had the 500 mile service done? Well, maybe next summer!" - spoken like a true candyass. Dale (the Horkster) JOE NAGY wrote: > > >>> Dale Horstman - 3/19/98 1:48 PM >>> > It's kind of a reverse dedication, though. > But then again I would probably perversely enjoy > a nice long ride to a rally somewhere, and not > worry about "hurting" my bike. > > Is that what they're worried about? "Hurting" their bikes? I just > assumed most of them were just candyasses. > Joe From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 22:39:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA16196; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:39:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA12719; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:38:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA18877; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:38:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-22.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.63]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01748; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:38:22 -0500 Message-ID: <02df01bd53b1$d5af6380$3b10b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: , "Chris Norloff" Subject: D.C. (was Re: Parallel Parking [was: Re: 3 bikes]) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:39:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 -----Original Message----- From: Chris Norloff >DC corruption & inefficiency -- it's not just a job, it's a way of life. > >Chris Norloff > Endure and hope. This new Control Board/Texas lady City Manager regime holds increasing promise, evidenced by: o her past accomplishments and steady two month growth in office; o support for a congressional proposal to strip M.Barry of his remaining power over the D.C. police. Seems this proposal gained strength recently because "potential top candidates to fill the vacant post of police chief have declined to apply because of [unclear leadership] and because Barry continues to have influence in running the Department." [Post, this am, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-03/19/194l-031998-idx.html] From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 22:42:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA16220; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:42:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA12739; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA18901; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:41:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-22.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.63]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01818; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:41:28 -0500 Message-ID: <02e801bd53b2$44468bc0$3b10b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Jordan, Michael" , Subject: Re: AMA (was Re: Smart Tag/Fast Toll . . .) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 22:42:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Solidly Noted. Bill Swanson / DC EN500 LTD Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. -----Original Message----- From: Jordan, Michael >For those wanting to keep a closer eye on Europe - the FEM (Federation >of European Motorcyclists) has a mailing list (not much traffic - >3-4messages/month) highlighting what's happening over there. > >List server: FEM-INFO-Request@XXXXXX > >Administrative questions to: FEM-INFO@XXXXXX > >Michael J. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 23:33:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA16646; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:33:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA13175; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA19876; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:33:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA12810 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:33:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35121C76.17F2@mnsinc.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:36:22 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: [Fwd: FS: Yamaha 250 XT Enduro] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5C697A826A40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5C697A826A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gang, You know the routine... yadda, yadda... -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" --------------5C697A826A40 Content-Type: message/news Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Path: news1.mnsinc.com!news2.mnsinc.com!news.genuity.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!globalcenter1!news.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed2.news.erols.com!erols!winter.news.erols.com!not-for-mail From: mikegb@XXXXXX Newsgroups: va.forsale Subject: FS: Yamaha 250 XT Enduro Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:35:51 -0800 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <3511D607.1D9B@erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-172-73-74.s11.as2.man.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: winter.news.erols.com 890350762 4435 207.172.73.74 (19 Mar 1998 23:39:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; U) Xref: news1.mnsinc.com va.forsale:2240 Must sell now, the warmer it gets the more I will want to keep it! 1985 Enduro with speedo and turn signals so it can be street driven, also have the title so you can get tags for it. 4 Stroke motor, needs cleaning up, decent street and trail tires. I am asking $600, Reply here or call 703-369-2477 up to as late as 12:00 midnite. Thanks ]\/[ike mikegb@XXXXXX --------------5C697A826A40-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 19 23:39:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA16683; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:39:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA13229; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:39:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from radagast.wizard.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA20016; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:39:00 -0500 (EST) From: thetrick@XXXXXX Received: from nt_thetrick (tc2-s11.wizard.net [206.161.15.87]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA00438 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 23:38:56 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980318233758.00960e30@mail.wizard.net> X-Sender: thetrick@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:37:58 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: thanks for the help with the cx500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" thanks for the help, everyone. i've decided to try cleaning the carbs myself. i took them apart tonight and there is (naturally) a nice layer of yellow varnish on everything. there is also a completely dissolved something-or-other in the right carb that has turned into a nifty black sluge at the bottom of the bowl. this something-or-other (forgive the used of technical terms here :) was orginially a plug that is called the 'slow jet' in my clymer manual. or maybe it covers it. dunno. it is/was right between the main and secondary jets. any idea what this is? i'm going to coleman posersport tomorrow to get look at the gasket kits and see if it includes this thingus. all the other gaskets/rubber parts seemed to be in good shape, as does everything else, except the "piston", the pin of which goes down towards the secondary jet. the pin seems scored around it (vertically, not horizontally - it looks like its been worn thinner) about halfway down, but i don't see how that could happen. this holds for both carbs. any ideas on what that might mean? i'm still hoping a good cleaning will get the machine in good running shape. thanks again for the help. tom From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 01:32:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA17901; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:32:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA15102; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:31:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA21674; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:31:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id BAA01735; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:38:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:38:41 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: thetrick@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycle Subject: Re: thanks for the help with the cx500 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980318233758.00960e30@mail.wizard.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Mar 1998 thetrick@XXXXXX wrote: > thanks for the help, everyone. i've decided to try cleaning the carbs > myself. i took them apart tonight and there is (naturally) a nice layer of > yellow varnish on everything. there is also a completely dissolved > something-or-other in the right carb that has turned into a nifty black > sluge at the bottom of the bowl. this something-or-other (forgive the used > of technical terms here :) was orginially a plug that is called the 'slow > jet' in my clymer manual. or maybe it covers it. dunno. it is/was right Yes, covers it: don't you have one in the other carb? > between the main and secondary jets. any idea what this is? i'm going to > coleman posersport tomorrow to get look at the gasket kits and see if it > includes this thingus. I've never seen them in a rebuild kit..BTW,.why do you need a rebuild kit? Since you have to take the jets out anyway, why not just clean them? > > all the other gaskets/rubber parts seemed to be in good shape, as does > everything else, except the "piston", the pin of which goes down towards > the secondary jet. the pin seems scored around it (vertically, not > horizontally - it looks like its been worn thinner) about halfway down, but > i don't see how that could happen. Normal. It's a tapered needle. > this holds for both carbs. any ideas > on what that might mean? > Might mean nothing, might mean replaceing them. Take them with you to shop. If they say they're ok, they probably are. If they say to replace them, I'd probably reuse them anyway. > i'm still hoping a good cleaning will get the machine in good running shape. > > thanks again for the help. > > tom > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 09:05:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21646; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:05:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23644; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:05:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26758; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:05:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA09996 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:04:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA27164 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:04:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980320140434.SPAG4928@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:04:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:03 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: Good Morning. Let's go to Deal's Gap! X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980320140434.SPAG4928@[166.41.242.141]> Get yer hot cup-o-joe and surf on over the the official DC-Cycles Deal's Gap Adventure page: http://www.monumental.com/jckozyn/brp/default.htm Please note and applaud John Kozyn for hosting these pages with his ISP. Even though I like to use the internet and email, I still haven't even bought my own PC yet, let alone get an ISP! Thank you John, thank you very much. Todd +-----------------------------+---------------+ | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | +-----------------------------+---------------+ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 09:25:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21897; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:25:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23921; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:24:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27243; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:24:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA29240 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 06:23:49 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 06:23:49 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles'" Subject: RE: Good Morning. Let's go to Deal's Gap! Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 06:25:50 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 4 TEXT Looks good, guys! Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 09:31:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA21978; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24123; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:31:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from sundown.northgrum.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27386; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from puff.northgrum.com (puff.northgrum.com [157.127.103.139]) by sundown.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id GAA26456 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 06:31:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from xcgca007.northgrum.com ([157.127.103.78]) by puff.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id GAA22648 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 06:31:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by XCGCA007 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 06:31:05 -0800 Message-ID: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF586@xcgva001.grumman.com> From: "Meier, Christopher" To: dc-cycles , "'Todd Peer'" Subject: RE: Good Morning. Let's go to Deal's Gap! Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 06:31:15 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Todd, John, et.al., Truly an awe inspiring page ... thanks! --chris PS. I think my ? will turn into a check mark here shortly. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Christopher A. Meier meierch@XXXXXX Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA 1994 RF900R AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ > ---------- > From: Todd Peer[SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, March 20, 1998 9:03 AM > To: dc-cycles > Subject: Good Morning. Let's go to Deal's Gap! > > > Get yer hot cup-o-joe and surf on over the the official DC-Cycles > Deal's > Gap Adventure page: > > http://www.monumental.com/jckozyn/brp/default.htm > > Please note and applaud John Kozyn for hosting these pages with his > ISP. Even though I like to use the internet and email, I still > haven't > even bought my own PC yet, let alone get an ISP! Thank you John, > thank > you very much. > > Todd > +-----------------------------+---------------+ > | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | > | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | > | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | > +-----------------------------+---------------+ > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 10:09:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22436; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:09:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24993; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:07:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28307; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:07:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-190.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.190]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA13467; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:08:02 -0500 Message-ID: <35128601.C08A5DE@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:06:41 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Good Morning. Let's go to Deal's Gap! References: <19980320140434.SPAG4928@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice page. Looks like you did a lot of work Todd. Only problem I see is on the 'plan' page the reference to Tapoco, NC has a minor error. Point your browser to http://www.monumental.com/jckozyn/brp/thegap.htm instead of the URL listed. Leon. Todd Peer wrote: > Get yer hot cup-o-joe and surf on over the the official DC-Cycles Deal's > Gap Adventure page: > > http://www.monumental.com/jckozyn/brp/default.htm > > Please note and applaud John Kozyn for hosting these pages with his > ISP. Even though I like to use the internet and email, I still haven't > even bought my own PC yet, let alone get an ISP! Thank you John, thank > you very much. > > Todd > +-----------------------------+---------------+ > | '91 ST1100 - Raven STeel | STOC #487 | > | '92 CB750 - Carbon Beauty | HSTA #7615 | > | '83 VT500 - Dark Shadow | AMA #542907 | > +-----------------------------+---------------+ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 10:14:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22565; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:14:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25311; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:14:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28554; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:14:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id KAA09784; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA08168; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980320151339.PEYR27160@[166.41.242.141]>; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:13:39 -0600 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:12 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Leon Begeman CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Good Morning. Let's go to Deal's Gap! X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980320151339.PEYR27160@[166.41.242.141]> Thanks Leon. It has been noted and will be fixed. Todd >Nice page. Looks like you did a lot of work Todd. > >Only problem I see is on the 'plan' page the reference to Tapoco, NC has a >minor error. Point your browser to >http://www.monumental.com/jckozyn/brp/thegap.htm instead of the URL listed. > >Leon. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 10:30:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22947; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:30:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25990; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:30:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29429; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21483; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:30:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35128B54.A035AF41@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:29:25 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: rdmannin@XXXXXX, bhawkins@XXXXXX Subject: Yippee!! KZ550 runnnin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well folks... Last night I did some wire adapting to the regulator that Leon brought me and put it back in the bike. With a little jump start from my truck, it fired up and started running great all on its own power! So I put the mirrors back on it, popped on the side covers, got suited up, and took off for a little test ride. The first thing I did was put some gas in it since it was on reserve, and the gas that was in it was the same gas I put in it last spring and parked it (bad idea). It was a little boggy at first, but once some of the good gas circulated through it began to come around. After riding a TL1k only hours before, the difference in power was something of a letdown, but hey, it's still a fun bike. Cruising along I find myself thinking: "mirrors: woah, I can see both lanes out of each mirror and they aren't even vibrating...neato. Seat: hmmm, this thing feels like a couch, I'm *gulp* comfortable!?!?!, handlebars; wow, my hands are back around where my knees are..this is interesting..weight is now pulling instead of pushing on my hands. Feet: hey..nice and forward.I can deal with this." After about 30-45 minutes, I found myself not really wanting to go home! And, I found out just how far you have to lean Dunlop Qualifiers over to make em slide ;-) Well, this morning I decided to risk things a bit and ride it into work. I've still got an intermittent ground or something somewhere as I noticed the engine was a bit smoother and idling a lot higher this morning, but at one stoplight, something changed and the engine dropped back down to where it was idling yesterday... So I'll check that out this evening, and apply electrical tape liberally where needed. I already knew that the speedo was reading 10-15 mph higher than it should, but I wasn't concerned. Well, about 6 miles onto 66 I look down and was going 0mph :) When I got into town and slowed down a bit I could definitely here the broken cable turning in the sheathing. That'll come out tonight and may or may not get replaced. I don't think I'll have to worry about speeding on this beast and I could care less about the odometer being accurate. Not too bad of a little bike for less than $350 total invested so far.... There are a few other little things I plan on tinkering with..like a drag bar instead of those silly sweep backs (ok, so I just gotta have some weight on my hands :)), or if I keep the sweepbacks, I'll put some hulk of a windshield on it to make the long distance and commuting more comfortable... so now I ride a couch :) (BUT AT LEAST IT DOESN'T DRIP OIL) Collin ps: So does anyone wanna loan me a sportbike to run down to deals gap on ;-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 10:31:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22963; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26015; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29458; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:30:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA04593 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:30:42 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:30:42 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles'" Subject: RE: Good Morning. Let's go to Deal's Gap! Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 07:32:43 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 24 TEXT Wow! Fixed already You guys are good >-----Original Message----- >From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 20, 1998 10:12 >To: Leon Begeman >Cc: dc-cycles >Subject: Re: Good Morning. Let's go to Deal's Gap! > > >Thanks Leon. It has been noted and will be fixed. > >Todd > >>Nice page. Looks like you did a lot of work Todd. >> >>Only problem I see is on the 'plan' page the reference to Tapoco, NC has a >>minor error. Point your browser to >>http://www.monumental.com/jckozyn/brp/thegap.htm instead of the URL listed. >> >>Leon. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 10:45:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23188; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26302; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:44:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29810; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:44:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA06834; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:44:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:43:09 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFAD7@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Collin T. Fagan'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: rdmannin@XXXXXX, bhawkins@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Yippee!! KZ550 runnnin Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:44:14 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I'm so happy for you! So, are you saying that some of us may actually have a CHANCE at keeping up with you on that thing?? Yeah, right... ; ) - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 10:48:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23235; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:48:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26377; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:48:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29928; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:48:13 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.8 3-18-1997)) id 852565CD.00570C46 ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:50:47 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852565CD.0056BDE7.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:50:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Yippee!! KZ550 runnnin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I plan on tinkering with..like a drag bar instead of those silly sweep backs Oh come on Collin. Go for the gusto. Put some ape hangers on that beast. You'll look really cool with them. Really you will. Trust me. 8-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 11:01:46 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA23653; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26689; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:01:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00678; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA07775 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:00:55 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:00:55 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Yippee!! KZ550 runnnin Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:02:55 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 7 TEXT >I'm so happy for you! >So, are you saying that some of us may actually have a CHANCE at keeping >up with you on that thing?? Especially if we clip a plug wire or two....:-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 11:17:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA23883; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:17:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27219; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:17:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01132; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:17:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11906; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:16:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3512964E.EB976A47@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:16:14 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Yippee!! KZ550 runnnin References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D4FFAD7@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit He he he.. well, right now it is very underpowered compared to what my old KZ650 had... I think if I get the carbs all cleaned out again and fiddle with the tuning a bit I might get some life breathed back into it... Right now it's annoyingly loud though... kerker exhaust and individual K&N filters combined with running a little boggy ==LOUD! If I do put drag bars on it... I may switch to the Avon Supervenoms that Brian likes so well if they come in the right sizes..... Then I might need to look at relocating the pegs and modifying the shifter and break pedals :) he he he.... engineers love to tinker with things :) O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > So, are you saying that some of us may actually have a CHANCE at keeping > up with you on that thing?? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 11:23:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA23996; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:23:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27438; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from suntan.kleks.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01281; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:23:03 -0500 (EST) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.kleks.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA02021 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:24:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803201624.LAA02021@suntan.kleks.org> Subject: GPS II Plus on a CBR XX ? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:24:23 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text I am trying to mount Garmin GPS II on XX, with no luck so far. Has anyone installed GPS on his bike yet ? Any ideas on how to do it best ? there is no space under screen; only one place I can think of fitting it is between handlebars. Any ideas ? (yes, it will be useful on Deal's Gap ride.. ) _zjt From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 14:34:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA29501; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:34:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03886; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:33:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA07781; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from krosenba.erols.com (207-172-73-72.s9.as2.man.erols.com [207.172.73.72]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA29719; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:33:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980320142735.007cdda0@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: krosenba@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:27:35 -0500 To: Todd Peer , dc-cycles From: Karl Rosenbaum Subject: Re: Good Morning. Let's go to Deal's Gap! In-Reply-To: <19980320140434.SPAG4928@[166.41.242.141]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:03 AM 03/20/1998 -0500, Todd Peer wrote: > >Get yer hot cup-o-joe and surf on over the the official DC-Cycles Deal's >Gap Adventure page: > > http://www.monumental.com/jckozyn/brp/default.htm > >Please note and applaud John Kozyn for hosting these pages with his >ISP. Even though I like to use the internet and email, I still haven't >even bought my own PC yet, let alone get an ISP! Thank you John, thank >you very much. Todd, I can't go, but thought that I would comment on the EXCELLENT web page. Nice look and easy to get around. Nice! Karl Rosenbaum 94 BMW K1100 LT-A Woodbridge, VA http://www.erols.com/krosenba From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 14:55:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA29882; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04510; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA08392; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-219-149.pitb.grid.net [207.205.219.149]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA18678; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:35:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980320143636.006a1128@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:36:36 -0500 To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: GPS II Plus on a CBR XX ? Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199803201624.LAA02021@suntan.kleks.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:24 AM 3/20/98 -0500, zbig@XXXXXX wrote: >I am trying to mount Garmin GPS II on XX, with no luck so far. >Has anyone installed GPS on his bike yet ? I mounted my GPS III (same size as II) easily on my RT using an aftermarket accessory shelf which mounts above the gauges. I'll have photos of this scanned this weekend. You might consider mounting the "dashboard" bracket to the top of your brake fluid reservoir. However, under the windshield is really the best, so you can glance down at it without taking your eyes off the road. Another options would be to use on of the Saeng mounts which are normally used for radar detectors. BTW, I loved the GPS III. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 15:33:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA00586; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:33:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04981; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:31:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA09668; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:31:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA16703 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:31:39 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:31:39 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: GPS II Plus on a CBR XX ? Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:33:40 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 10 TEXT >BTW, I loved the GPS III. So, tell me, Doctor... I'm intrigued by your use of the past tense - does this mean that you no longer have the unit? Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 16:20:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01899; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:20:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA05510; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA12340; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:19:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-219-149.pitb.grid.net [207.205.219.149]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA01857; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:18:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980320162040.006b8124@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:20:40 -0500 To: "Jordan, Michael" From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: GPS Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:33 PM 3/20/98 -0800, Jordan, Michael wrote: >I'm intrigued by your use of the past tense - does this mean that you no >longer have the unit? Yes, I returned it (without any trouble) to the Sports Authority. Before my trip, I was hoping to get the Garmin Street Pilot (http://www.garmin.com). I ordered one from Telson (http://www.telson.net), but it won't be released until April. The SP is a larger unit and accepts cartridges for street-level mapping, rather than just standard base map, which has only larger roads. However, determined to have GPS for the trip, I zipped over to SA before I left. I guess this is as good a time as any to tell folks about it. Basically, for distance travel on unfamiliar territory, mapping GPS is fantastic. The GPS III has several different screens, depending on what you want to know. When I was in high-velocity mode, I'd keep it on the screen with the map (North up, with your position in the middle). You can zoom in or out very easily while riding. On that same display are four user-definable info boxes. I kept Speed, Distance to Next Waypoint, Altitude, and Pointer (an arrow which points in the direction you're supposed to be going). When I was cruising, I'd often flip to the trip computer page, which showed Speed, Avg. Speed, Top Speed (see a pattern?), Trip Odometer, Trip Timer, Sunset, and ETA at Destination. I could also look at the Active Route page, which would show me where I as along the route, Distance to and ETA at Next Waypoint, etc. There were lots of other pieces of info you could get from it as well, and most screens were largely user-defined. While sitting at breakfast, I'd create waypoints along the route I wanted to take that day, and create a new route. The whole thing was incredibly easy. The device was amazing. I always knew where I was and never had to pull over to check a map. This was particularly useful on the Blue Ridge Parkway, where frequent detours threw me on side roads. All of them, thankfully, appeared on the basemap (though, oddly, the BRP did not) so I could quickly find my way without stopping. Plus, the little touches, like altitude, ETA, etc., were both entertaining and useful. So now I'm waiting to get my Street Pilot. It may be a little too big and interfere with my windshield. If so, I'll go back to the GPS III. I'd highly recommend either unit. With the Sports Authority's return policy, you really can't go wrong trying one out. I'd certainly suggest having one on one of the leaders' bikes for the trip to Deal's Gap. I just got my pictures developed which show the unit in place on my bike. I'm on call tomorrow, so I'll try to scan and post them while I'm at work. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 16:23:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01931; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA05569; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA12550; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA22428 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:22:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3513090B.18F9@mnsinc.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:25:47 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: FS Yamaha Enduro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Apparently some of you have mail programs incompatible with Netscape. Here is the post I forwarded to the list last night. ===================================================================== Must sell now, the warmer it gets the more I will want to keep it! 1985 Enduro with speedo and turn signals so it can be street driven, also have the title so you can get tags for it. 4 Stroke motor, needs cleaning up, decent street and trail tires. I am asking $600, Reply here or call 703-369-2477 up to as late as 12:00 midnite. Thanks ]\/[ike mikegb@XXXXXX -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 17:20:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA02689; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:20:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06088; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:19:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA14583; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:19:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA24954 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:19:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3513167A.72B5@mnsinc.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:23:06 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Moto-Rag Research Needed Again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greeting comrades, Once again I need the assistance of some kind soul to check out their current advertising-laden moto-rag to find a Competition Accessories or Chaparral ad which features the following tire: Dunlop K591 120/80VB16 Street/Race Front I need the rag name, page number where ad appears and, of course, the price cited. Muchos gracias, JK -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 18:27:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03614; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:27:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA07533; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA16280; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27737 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:26:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35132626.6682@mnsinc.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:29:59 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Thanks for the Research Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gang, Thanks to those who responded to my request. Appreciate it. -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 20 21:04:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA05024; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:04:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA08609; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA18908; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:03:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA03101 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:03:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35134AD0.1FB7@mnsinc.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:06:24 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Good Morning. Let's go to Deal's Gap! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From: Todd Peer > Get yer hot cup-o-joe and surf on over the the official DC-Cycles Deal's > Gap Adventure page: > > http://www.monumental.com/jckozyn/brp/default.htm > > Please note and applaud John Kozyn for hosting these pages with his > ISP. Even though I like to use the internet and email, I still haven't > even bought my own PC yet, let alone get an ISP! Thank you John, thank > you very much. Hey Todd & Gang, You're quite welcome, no problem, I'm glad to help the list out and assist in consolidating our little (virtual) community. I also read down my D-mode messages and wish to disabuse y'all of any idea that I had anything to do with the HTML coding/publishing. Despite the fact that the esteemed Mr. Peer may not have a 'puter of his own, he does quite nicely in Web publishing, ne c'est pas? Kudos to you Todd for a well constructed series of pages! I regret that I cannot participate in this neat ride. I've done the BRP twice to NC in the last two two years, but we plan on moving into a new home in May - I'd have a hard time persuading my Director of Finance ("You need another tire? Didn't you just get some of those...?" - sheeesh) that Deal's Gap is more important than moving. Ciao, JK From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 21 00:58:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA07163; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 00:58:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA11041; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 00:57:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA21888; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 00:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.38] (unverified [207.226.128.38]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 00:56:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Yippee!! KZ550 runnnin Date: Sat, 21 Mar 98 00:58:28 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Oh come on Collin. Go for the gusto. Put some ape hangers on that beast. >You'll look really cool with them. Really you will. Trust me. 8-) You have to make sure they are high enough though. They aren't really comfortable unless your hands are AT LEAST 8 inches above your shoulders. (FWIW, one time last summer, I saw a guy on the PA turnpike with ape hangers that were only about four inches above his shoulders). ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 21 01:16:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA07321; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:16:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA11261; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:15:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA22071; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:15:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com (oak.eainet.com [206.136.246.2]) by oak.eainet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA11500; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:15:17 -0500 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 01:15:16 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hartzler To: George Howell cc: sbeck@XXXXXX, DC Cycles Subject: Re: Yippee!! KZ550 runnnin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII While rummaging around in the on-line version of the VA civil code, I noticed that it's illegal for the handlebars to be more than 15 inches above the seat... So that's what it means to be an "Outlaw Biker"... On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, George Howell wrote: > >Oh come on Collin. Go for the gusto. Put some ape hangers on that beast. > >You'll look really cool with them. Really you will. Trust me. 8-) > > You have to make sure they are high enough though. They aren't really > comfortable unless your hands are AT LEAST 8 inches above your shoulders. > > (FWIW, one time last summer, I saw a guy on the PA turnpike with ape > hangers that were only about four inches above his shoulders). > > > > ``` > (o o) > *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* > |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| > |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| > *--------------------------oooO------------* > |__||__| > || || > ooO Ooo > --- Peter Hartzler Systems Analysis Ellsworth Associates, Inc. ph@XXXXXX (703) 821-3090 x 252 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 21 02:02:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA07609; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 02:02:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA11509; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 02:01:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA22563; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 02:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id CAA15639; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 02:09:00 -0500 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 02:08:59 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Yippee!! KZ550 runnnin In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Peter Hartzler wrote: > While rummaging around in the on-line version of the VA civil code, I > noticed that it's illegal for the handlebars to be more than 15 inches > above the seat... So that's what it means to be an "Outlaw Biker"... No problem! Raise the seat, too. --garcia "If we do not succeed, we run the risk of failure." J. Danforth Quayle (one heartbeat from the presidency) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 21 12:39:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA10690; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA15965; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA28213; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:38:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com ([209.49.109.130]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA21855 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:38:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980321124035.006a6b28@pop.mindspring.com> Received: from [172.16.4.56] by firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com via smtpd (for ftp.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) with SMTP; 21 Mar 1998 17:38:47 UT X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:40:35 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: New Photos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, As promised, I added a few more photos of my Deal's Gap trip, plus some photos and information on some of my new gear, including the GPS and Autocom CB/Walkman arrangement. See: http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm http://www.greenspun.com/asheville.htm and http://www.greenspun.com/harry/gear.htm Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 21 13:43:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA11198; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 13:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA16356; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 13:42:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29167; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 13:42:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com ([209.49.109.130]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA29916 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 13:42:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980321134439.006a711c@pop.mindspring.com> Received: from [172.16.4.56] by firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com via smtpd (for ftp.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) with SMTP; 21 Mar 1998 18:42:51 UT X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 13:44:39 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Deal's Gap photos, correction Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sorry, That's http://www.greenspun.com/harry/asheville.htm Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 21 17:04:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA13609; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA17507; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:03:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA02510; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA06190; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 16:03:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv1-18.ix.netcom.com(205.184.22.50) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma006163; Sat Mar 21 16:02:39 1998 Message-ID: <351463AA.7123@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:04:42 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, harley@XXXXXX, xl-list@XXXXXX Subject: Harley Sportster Fairing/DC metro dealers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On page 45 of the 1998 Harley Parts Catalog, thats the last page of the Screaming eagle chapter, is a photograph on the lower left labeled 'Street Class winner Donnie Huffman gets ready for the next round of eliminations.' The orange and black sportster pictured has a mini fairing and windshield, which I am interested in finding imformation about. I have not located it in the catalogues I have checked and was hoping someone might be able to shed some light on who makes it, whether its just a one off or if its a production item and from who. Thanx.. On another note, any HD riders in the Wash DC metro area know of a dealer selling Sportsters at list price. I have decided to stay with another HD as my next project but am going to customize it into a quasi Cafe-Racer. (Really just wish HD would bring the XLCR back.), If there aren't any local, I may even try Barnetts. My local dealer from whom I purchased my two previous Sportsters is still charging $1800.00 over list price for a basic Sporty. Bloody ridiculous...;(. Thanx again, Ride Safe, Looking forward to riding in the snow tomorrow.... BRRR, Who says its bloody springtime..... -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 21 18:07:09 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA14223; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA17848; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:06:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03500; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:06:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA10989; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:05:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv1-18.ix.netcom.com(205.184.22.50) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma010980; Sat Mar 21 17:05:12 1998 Message-ID: <35147255.2FD@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 18:07:17 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: Harley Sportster Fairing/DC metro dealers References: <3.0.1.32.19980321173557.006a6f28@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tell ya Harry, I was up at Battleys just last Monday, and I wasnt really impressed. I dont trust shops where they dont put tags or prices on anything on the showroom floor. I realize its probably some kind of sales ploy, but I really HATE having to ask the price of every damm thing on the floor. Even when I am just trying to satisfy some curiousity. I couldnt find a Yamaha/Triumph/BMW/HD that actually had a price on it. Im always reminded of the old expression 'If ya have to ask, you cant afford it' Oh btw, they did have a really nice 97 F650ST in Blazing orange up there, but I couldny get financing, so I'' have to wait a while. Unfortunately for 1998 the ST model has been discontinued, and they are only going to sell the Funduro model. thats ashame, I really liked the ST model but the Funduro(standard F650) just leaves me cold. Who knows if I am lucky maybe it will still be sitting there when I try again in the late summer early fall.. -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 21 19:28:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA14725; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:28:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA18467; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:28:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA04175; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from roy-s-toy (207-172-144-247.s56.as3.fdk.erols.com [207.172.144.247]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03472; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:27:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35145BD0.A28EDE2E@erols.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 19:31:13 -0500 From: "Roy W. Berry" Reply-To: berryrw@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shephar1@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, harley@XXXXXX, xl-list@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Sportster Fairing/DC metro dealers X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <351463AA.7123@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken Check out the Drag Specitilies for your fairing, I have one its an Alren Ness which I customized alittle. For A HD Dealer check out Harley of Frederick, MD. Roy Berry Ken S. wrote: > On page 45 of the 1998 Harley Parts Catalog, thats the last page of > the > Screaming eagle chapter, is a photograph on the lower left labeled > 'Street Class winner Donnie Huffman gets ready for the next round of > eliminations.' The orange and black sportster pictured has a mini > fairing and windshield, which I am interested in finding imformation > about. I have not located it in the catalogues I have checked and was > > hoping someone might be able to shed some light on who makes it, > whether > its just a one off or if its a production item and from who. Thanx.. > > On another note, any HD riders in the Wash DC metro area know > of a > dealer selling Sportsters at list price. I have decided to stay with > another HD as my next project but am going to customize it into a > quasi > Cafe-Racer. (Really just wish HD would bring the XLCR back.), If > there > aren't any local, I may even try Barnetts. My local dealer from whom > I > purchased my two previous Sportsters is still charging $1800.00 over > list price for a basic Sporty. Bloody ridiculous...;(. Thanx again, > Ride Safe, Looking forward to riding in the snow tomorrow.... BRRR, > Who > says its bloody springtime..... > -- > Ken S. > 1996 XLH1200 > Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 21 21:10:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA15339; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:10:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA18704; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:09:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from solstice.comnet.unr.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA05242; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 21:09:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from med.unr.edu by solstice.comnet.unr.edu (8.8.4/1.34) id CAA02427; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 02:10:29 GMT Received: from localhost by med.unr.edu (8.8.8/1.34-UNR-sd-ptp-1.01) id BAA10195; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 01:59:48 GMT Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:59:48 -0800 (PST) From: Eric William Lamberts X-Sender: ewl@med To: Dale Horstman cc: DC Cycles List , KZ LTD List , VJMC List Subject: Re: (vjmc) this is priceless In-Reply-To: <35114E0E.57E16841@mci.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Looks normal to me! The sign of a REAL windsurfer is when the value of the stuff on top of the car is much greater than the car itself. It looks to me like the guy has his priorities straight! Eric Lamberts '72 Commando, Suzukis---'78 GS750, '76 RE5, '72 T250, '66 T20 (X6). '69 BSA B44VS, '76 Yamaha RD400. Lots of projects. Coupla mopeds, lots of bicycles, windsurfers, skis, and other stuff. ewl@XXXXXX Reno, NV On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Dale Horstman wrote: > >> Want to visit one of the bike rallies? Want to take your > >> HD? Don't have a pickup or trailer? It's easy when you know > >> the secret! http://www.quiknet.com/~jdenton/day96ct.jpg > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 21 23:39:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA16464; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:39:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA19280; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA06542; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA25136 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by mscex.MSC.USCG.mil with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD5522.8EB3F7D0@XXXXXX>; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:39:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Non-Moto: ARRGGH!!!!! Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:39:12 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So here it is a rainy Saturday night at 10PM (2200 for you military types). I'm just getting ready to go to bed and take care of a few of my husbandly duties when all of a sudden I hear the duty pager beeping at me from my desk :( It turns out to be a request to analyze a vessels strength and stability for a particular voyage while carrying a particularly heavy load. No problem, that's my job. A little annoyed at myself for not arting a laptop home yesterday, so I have to go back into the office. The part that miffes me a bit is the route the request came... Let me explain. One of my collaterals is as a salvage engineer to respond to casualties and cases such as this one. We generally get contacted by the field offices and we provide them with engineering support that they aren't manned to handle. This particular office, for some strange, unkown reason, refuses to contact us unless absolutely forced to. This means that often, they rely on unverified, sketchy information to make some pretty serious decisions (after all, Miami and Port Everglades are only the two biggest cruise ports in the US). But they still refuse to call us. For this case they called our National Strike Force, who primarily deal with rapid response to pollution problems (often associated with vessel casualties). So after trying to get information three way, I finally just said hey, let me call them direct. So upon calling them, first they are completely shocked that I (DC) am even involved, and then go on to say that they think that everything that we've provided them on the vessel is adequate and they think it'll do fine. whah!?!?!?! I haven't given you jack yet!!! Oh well, I didn't want to deal with it, so I let it go.....So I've blown an hour and a half on nothing other than a not so scenic trip into DC. I did take a few minutes to look the wholke scenario over, and I seriously doubt they will have any problems (assuming what info I got was correct), but I wouldn't have rested well tonight if I didn't at least check things out. As for MOTO content, I was bummed, cause with the rain and Saturday night drunks, I didn't even want to try to ride in tonight :( I AM getting out a bit tomorrow to help a lister tune his suspenders a little.. no set time or destination other than west of town and whenever he calls me ready to go:) ... anyone else is welcome to come hang out...just give me a call (but not earlier than 9 :) Collin (703) 356-4279 Collin T. Fagan LTjg, USCG Staff Engineer USCG Marine Safety Center From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 22 02:02:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA17671; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 02:02:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA20556; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 02:01:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA07896; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 02:01:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.49] (unverified [207.226.128.49]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 02:00:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Harley Sportster Fairing/DC metro dealers Date: Sun, 22 Mar 98 02:02:21 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "DC Cycles" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Last time I checked (last May) HD of Fort Washington was selling Sporties at list price. This time last year, they had four or five on the floor. Guy said it was often like that in the winter. Do you have those articles from Hot XL where they created a pseudo-XLCR out of a modern bike? ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 22 02:02:46 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA17676; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 02:02:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA20552; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 02:01:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA07892; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 02:01:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.49] (unverified [207.226.128.49]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 02:00:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Harley Sportster Fairing/DC metro dealers Date: Sun, 22 Mar 98 02:02:19 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Only difference between Strada and Funduro are the windscreens, tires, and maybe an inch of suspension travel. ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 22 06:49:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA19293; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:49:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA21841; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:48:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA09916; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:48:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA05814 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:48:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35152575.6786@mnsinc.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:51:33 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Project Motorcycle Wanted Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey gang, Hope everyone is able to read this post from : > I have more time than money. So, I am looking for a fixer upper that > is cheap. Anybody have an old motorcycle gathering dust in you garage > or driveway? > Nick Ranone > Ft Belvoir, VA > ranone@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 22 07:28:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA19391; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 07:28:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA21936; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 07:27:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA10056; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 07:27:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ziplink.net (dc-ip-1-190.ziplink.net [208.196.102.190]) by ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA25480; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 07:27:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3515035D.305F6FCD@ziplink.net> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 07:26:35 -0500 From: Julie and Mark Holm Reply-To: holm@XXXXXX Organization: Holm household X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mark.holm@XXXXXX Subject: Letter to Herndon Cycle Sports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am copying the list on the letter I sent last Wednesday from Herndon Cycle Sport. They received it on Thursday, but I have heard nothing back from them. I plan to pick up the bike on Monday evening, and I will let you know whether I pay for it or not! When replying, please cut the text of the letter. Digest mode folks only need to read it once (if that!) Julie David Nees Cycle Sport of Herndon 632 Grant Street Herndon, VA 20170 Dear Mr. Nees; - On Friday, March 13, 1 picked up my motorcycle, a 1985 Yamaha XV700 Virago,from your service department. Your shop had replaced my tires, given me a tune up and state inspection, and changed my brake fluid. I picked the bike up around 2:30 or 3:00 in the afternoon. I rode the bike away and my husband, who had driven me to the shop, followed in the car. Upon leaving the shop, and turning right onto Elden Street, I came to a first stop. At that point I noticed that I needed to use a lot more back brake than I thought I should, even though I was pulling the front brake lever in. At the next light I gently pressed the front brake lever several times, noting that the front brake felt very soft and that I was getting very little braking from the front. Before the next light, I turned into the parking lot at the Marriot Residence Hotel, down the road from Cycle Sport. My husband, behind me in our car, followed me in. I told him that I was having problems with the brake, and he got on the bike to see what I was talking about. Unfortunately, he had not planned to ride, so his protective gear was at home. He also observed that the brakes were soft, and not providing much power the first time he pulled on the brake lever. The second time he pulled on the lever, however, it unexpectedly worked very well, and the bike and he went down. He suffered a broken collarbone and rib, and a concussion. The bike also took some damage. I called an ambulance, and my husband and I went to Reston Hospital, where I called the service department later in the afternoon, to let them know that this had occurred. The next day, Saturday, March 14, we returned the bike to your shop and I ordered a new windshield to replace the one that was broken. On Monday, March 16 your shop called me to let me know that the repairs would include straightening, welding and leveling the bent foot peg; aligning the handlebars; resynching the carbs; and replacing the turn signal stalk. In the past couple of days, once my husband's injuries were attended to, I began thinking about the circumstances of the accident. I think that it is clear that a problem existed with the brakes as my motorcycle left your shop, and that the problem was the primary cause of the accident. As I read my copy of the shop manual I note that after a tire is replaced, the brakes need to be adequately pumped up. Indeed, if this step was missed, or insufficiently completed, then the result would be exactly what we experienced on March 13. Friends on the local internet mailing list (dc cycles) have also confirmed that this is the case. It is an easy mistake to make, and I believe it was responsible for this problem. This also explains why the brake problem was not evident when the bike was returned to the shop on Saturday; our repeated use of the brake had pumped it up, and the brakes were now fine. My husband and 1, along with my brother and brother-in-law, have had a great relationship with your shop for many years. I've always felt welcomed, attended to and well-served by your courteous staff. We've never had a problem with a repair before, although we have brought a number of bikes to your shop. We believe that Herndon Cycle Sport runs a quality shop. However, we do feel that a mistake on the repair was responsible for this problem, and that Herndon Cycle Sport should be responsible for the cost of the repairs to the bike that resulted from this accident, and for replacement of the broken windshield. You have estimated the repairs to the bike at $250, and I paid around $50 for the windshield (I can't find the receipt for the windshield, but the exact amount should be on your computer.) It's been pointed out to me that we may have very good grounds for a lawsuit. My husband and I don't feel that is appropriate, both because we dislike the litigious tendencies of the society we live in, and because we have a good relationship with your business. However, we would like you to take responsibility for the damages to the bike. Sincerely, Juliana L. Holm Mark S. Holm From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 22 07:38:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA19433; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 07:38:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA21989; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 07:37:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA10131; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 07:37:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-41-212.s212.tnt10.brd.erols.com [207.172.41.212]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24152 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 07:37:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35150669.A10AE907@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 07:39:05 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Project Motorcycle Wanted References: <35152575.6786@mnsinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, this guy used to be (still is) a list memeber, isn't he??? If I recall didn't he have a ninja 250? Or is the Altzheimer's kicking in already ? he he he Collin John C. Kozyn wrote: > > Nick Ranone > > Ft Belvoir, VA > > ranone@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 22 08:46:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19596; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 08:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA22175; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 08:45:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA10533; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 08:45:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com ([209.49.109.130]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA04752; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 08:45:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980322084652.006a0a00@pop.mindspring.com> Received: from [172.16.4.56] by firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com via smtpd (for ftp.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) with SMTP; 22 Mar 1998 13:45:05 UT X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 08:46:52 -0500 To: holm@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: Letter to Herndon Cycle Sports Cc: mark.holm@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3515035D.305F6FCD@ziplink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Julie, Excellent letter. You come across as intelligent, reasonable, and appropriately assertive. They really are obligated to respond quickly. If they don't, they are not taking you seriously, which would be a big mistake on their part. I truly hope they do the right thing. It would help restore my faith in humanity, or at least in the concept of the "good shop." Most of us want to believe that there are still a few left around, so that when one gets put to the test, we all hope they pass. Keep us posted. You know you have the support of the list. Harry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 22 09:07:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19691; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:07:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22269; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:06:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from ngedns.northgrum.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA10661; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from xcgny003.northgrum.com ([132.228.123.161]) by ngedns.northgrum.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA06713; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 06:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by XCGNY003 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:06:24 -0500 Message-ID: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF58D@xcgva001.grumman.com> From: "Meier, Christopher" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "'holm@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Letter to Herndon Cycle Sports Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:06:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Julie, Please let me/the list know if they make any effort towards resolution. Cycle Sport has an open house scheduled in the near future that I am planning on attending. However, if they have not acknowledged your situation by then, I think I will opt out of going and take my money for spring gear elsewhere. Thanks, chris ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Christopher A. Meier meierch@XXXXXX Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA 1994 RF900R AMA #470094 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > ---------- > From: Julie and Mark Holm[SMTP:holm@XXXXXX] > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 1998 7:26 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; mark.holm@XXXXXX > Subject: Letter to Herndon Cycle Sports > > I am copying the list on the letter I sent last Wednesday from Herndon > Cycle Sport. They received it on Thursday, but I have heard nothing --snip-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 22 11:13:31 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA20249; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:13:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA22554; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:12:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11661; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:12:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from my-workstation (client196-127-34.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.34]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id LAA19081; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:11:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980322111018.00a06400@wingate> X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 11:10:18 -0500 To: "Meier, Christopher" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "'holm@XXXXXX'" From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: RE: Letter to Herndon Cycle Sports In-Reply-To: <11D743514607D011A15500805FEA3464ECF58D@xcgva001.grumman.co m> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Better yet, you should attend, and let them know why you're not buying anything. Maybe by then they'd learn the lesson of the letter (i.e., don't ignore it). MET At 09:06 AM 3/22/98 -0500, Meier, Christopher wrote: >Please let me/the list know if they make any effort towards resolution. >Cycle Sport has an open house scheduled in the near future that I am >planning on attending. However, if they have not acknowledged your >situation by then, I think I will opt out of going and take my money for >spring gear elsewhere. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 22 19:04:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA24097; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:04:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA25857; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:02:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA18236; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id SAA15158 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:02:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id TAA22835 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:02:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from LJTanner.mcit.com ([166.41.110.46]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980323000218.SMSV27160@XXXXXX> for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:02:18 -0600 From: "Linda Tanner" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: On Painting a bike Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:02:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Message-Id: <19980323000218.SMSV27160@LJTanner.mcit.com> I'm looking for recommendations to get my bike painted. I'd like to hear any experiences )good and bad) of any listers who have had it done. I'm looking to paint my bike one color and I'm willing to produces all the parts (all 15 of them) in ready to paint condition. Any names of companies and possible estimates on what it might cost. TIA LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 22 22:43:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA25793; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:43:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA26853; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA20628; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:42:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1ASBa07549 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:41:56 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23 Message-ID: <8dc223ef.3515da06@aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:41:56 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: On Painting a bike Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 56 I am also looking into repainting my bike, and would appreciate information. Thanks. -Sean Jordan (Mike's kid) '83 Honda 750 Interceptor http://members.aol.com/eternity23/23.htm http://members.aol.com/eternity23/stable.htm --->Pics of my bike!! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 00:00:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA26461; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA27187; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:59:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA21697; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:59:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA01656; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:54:06 -0500 Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:52:37 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Sender: "Gil M. Nissley" Reply-To: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: this is priceless To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <35114E0E.57E16841@mci.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Dale Horstman wrote: > >> Want to visit one of the bike rallies? Want to take your > >> HD? Don't have a pickup or trailer? It's easy when you know > >> the secret! http://www.quiknet.com/~jdenton/day96ct.jpg Heh.What you really need is a '72 Pontiac Bonneville like my Grandma's.That thing's big enough to put the Harley in the back seat! The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 07:49:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA00591; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA01434; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.netsus.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA27108; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:48:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 21812 invoked from network); 23 Mar 1998 12:53:57 -0000 Received: from sun.vais.net (tgallo@XXXXXX) by mail.netsus.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 1998 12:53:57 -0000 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:48:01 -0500 (EST) From: DIAL|MB|Tom Gallo To: Linda Tanner cc: Dc-Cycles Subject: Re: On Painting a bike In-Reply-To: <19980323000218.SMSV27160@LJTanner.mcit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try DAP Designs, he is located in So. MD and does teriffic paint work!! You can give him a call @ 301.870.0409 I maintain a web page fro him and it is located at http://www.vais.net/~tgallo/dapdesgns If you have any questions please let me know! Tom GSXR750 On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, Linda Tanner wrote: > I'm looking for recommendations to get my bike painted. I'd like to hear > any experiences )good and bad) of any listers who have had it done. I'm > looking to paint my bike one color and I'm willing to produces all the parts > (all 15 of them) in ready to paint condition. > > Any names of companies and possible estimates on what it might cost. > > TIA > > LindaT. > 95 F3 Purple Haze > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 09:31:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01486; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:31:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA02342; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:29:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28539; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:29:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA14299; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:29:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:28:02 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D52F5A4@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Leathers... Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:29:13 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Well, another happy customer can report that Colleen's used leather store in her house (MotorLE) is amazing. She has so much stuff! So much cool stuff! So much German stuff! Tom & I went by there Sunday & picked up a suit for each of us. Unfortunately I'll have to get the pants on mine taken in since the previous owner seemed to be a bit overly "blessed" in the posterior (?) ; ) Can anyone recommend a place or person who alters leather? I'm not sure where to start looking & since the pants are two-toned leather (red & black), I think it may be a tough job to get the seams lined up & stuff. These pants are just too cool to let sit! Thanks! - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 09:46:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01732; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA02465; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:45:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28903; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:45:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (tobias@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18213 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:45:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (tobias@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA04511 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:45:05 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.clark.net: tobias owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:45:05 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Tobias To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: ISO Good Service Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Back when I was living in Bethesda I would take my bike ('82 Virago 920) to Meyers Cycle. Their work was always done on time, at a fair price, and (most important) correct. Now I'm living in Arlington. Can someone recommend a shop closer to home that will be as reliable? Thanks, in advance! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 09:59:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01903; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA02553; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:58:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA29154; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:58:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1IZZa01924 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:57:31 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <930760d9.3516785d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:57:31 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: The ride in....... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 After sitting here all week, alone, cold and wet, (I was out of town) my bike started RIGHT up ..... no battery tender, no nothing! I couldn't believe it! Especially cause it always had to be jumped after sitting a long time or sitting in the cold too long ....... so I rode in to work today ........ Nice weather huh kids? *grinning from ear to ear* Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 10:21:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA02205; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:21:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05492; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:20:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29799; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id KAA08765; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:20:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma008759; Mon, 23 Mar 98 10:20:37 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:21:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: The ride in....... Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:21:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Today's nice... but have you checked the forecast for the rest of the week? Clear, warm, sunny (after tomorrow)... at last! Looking forward to it after getting blown around in yesterday's wind.... --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, March 23, 1998 9:58 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: The ride in....... > > After sitting here all week, alone, cold and wet, (I was out of town) my > bike > started RIGHT up ..... no battery tender, no nothing! I couldn't believe > it! > Especially cause it always had to be jumped after sitting a long time or > sitting in the cold too long ....... so I rode in to work today ........ > > Nice weather huh kids? *grinning from ear to ear* > > Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 10:29:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA02247; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:29:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07058; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailprime.tidalwave.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29982; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:27:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailprime.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 265; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:26:42 -0500 Message-ID: <35167F71.5FD80942@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:27:45 -0500 From: "horkster" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jinn Sinn , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: The ride in....... References: <930760d9.3516785d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jinn Sinn wrote: > > After sitting here all week, ... started RIGHT up ..... > so I rode in to work today ........ > > Nice weather huh kids? *grinning from ear to ear* > Marcy, This morning's ride in was beautiful! It never fails, whenever I get to work in the morning after a ride, I've got this crazy grin on my face, and it's not because I'm happy to be at work! :-) Two wheeled therapy! Gotta love it! -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 10:53:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA02628; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:53:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11870; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA00881; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:51:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id KAA12291; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:51:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:49:54 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D52F5B9@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Whiteside, John'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: The ride in....... Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:51:03 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You all are making me SO JEALOUS!! I went in the fianc=E9e's cage today... : ( - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Whiteside, John [SMTP:jwhiteside@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, March 23, 1998 10:21 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: The ride in....... >=20 > Today's nice... but have you checked the forecast for the rest of the > week? > Clear, warm, sunny (after tomorrow)... at last! Looking forward to it > after > getting blown around in yesterday's wind.... >=20 > --John Whiteside >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Monday, March 23, 1998 9:58 AM > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: The ride in....... > >=20 > > After sitting here all week, alone, cold and wet, (I was out of > town) my > > bike > > started RIGHT up ..... no battery tender, no nothing! I couldn't > believe > > it! > > Especially cause it always had to be jumped after sitting a long > time or > > sitting in the cold too long ....... so I rode in to work today > ........ > >=20 > > Nice weather huh kids? *grinning from ear to ear* > >=20 > > Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 10:59:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA02688; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA12995; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA01045; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id AKBCa18531; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:56:10 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <75a1e8e8.3516861c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:56:10 EST To: jwhiteside@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: The ride in....... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 In a message dated 3/23/98 10:55:34 AM, jwhiteside@XXXXXX wrote: <> I heard the weekend is supposed to be about 70 degrees!!!!!!!!!!! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 11:09:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA02860; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:09:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA16723; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:08:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01567; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD564B.379353E0@XXXXXX>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:02:49 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Whiteside, John'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: The ride in....... Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:02:48 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey!!! It wasn't that bad was it? : ) -Tom >-----Original Message----- >From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] >Sent: Monday, March 23, 1998 10:51 AM >To: 'Whiteside, John'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: The ride in....... > >You all are making me SO JEALOUS!! I went in the fianc=E9e's cage >today... : ( > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Whiteside, John [SMTP:jwhiteside@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Monday, March 23, 1998 10:21 AM >> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: RE: The ride in....... >>=20 >> Today's nice... but have you checked the forecast for the rest of the >> week? >> Clear, warm, sunny (after tomorrow)... at last! Looking forward to it >> after >> getting blown around in yesterday's wind.... >>=20 >> --John Whiteside >>=20 >>=20 >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] >> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 1998 9:58 AM >> > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> > Subject: The ride in....... >> >=20 >> > After sitting here all week, alone, cold and wet, (I was out of >> town) my >> > bike >> > started RIGHT up ..... no battery tender, no nothing! I couldn't >> believe >> > it! >> > Especially cause it always had to be jumped after sitting a long >> time or >> > sitting in the cold too long ....... so I rode in to work today >> ........ >> >=20 >> > Nice weather huh kids? *grinning from ear to ear* >> >=20 >> > Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 11:13:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA02892; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA18212; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01758; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:11:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id LAA19721; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:10:21 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D52F5BC@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Jinn Sinn'" , jwhiteside@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: The ride in....... Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:11:31 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain YAY!! ...we're going to the Eastern shore with the bikes in tow & riding down to VA Beach. Cross your fingers for the weather to remain beautiful!! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Jinn Sinn [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, March 23, 1998 10:56 AM > To: jwhiteside@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: RE: The ride in....... > > > In a message dated 3/23/98 10:55:34 AM, jwhiteside@XXXXXX wrote: > > < the > week?>> > > I heard the weekend is supposed to be about 70 degrees!!!!!!!!!!! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 11:14:08 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA02902; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:14:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA18550; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01801; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA15571; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:20:33 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'jwhiteside@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" Subject: RE: RE: The ride in....... Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:13:48 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's time to use that sick leave Curtis ---------- From: Jinn Sinn[SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, March 23, 1998 10:56 AM To: jwhiteside@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: The ride in....... In a message dated 3/23/98 10:55:34 AM, jwhiteside@XXXXXX wrote: <> I heard the weekend is supposed to be about 70 degrees!!!!!!!!!!! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 11:47:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA03236; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:47:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA21920; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:45:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA02742; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:45:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id LAA28271; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:52:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:52:42 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: "Cycles, DC -- DC Cycles" Subject: Mikuni Carbs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently picked up an 82 GS650GL that hade been sitting for quie a while. I've pulled the carbs and have them disassembled. I've cleaned the main jet, needle jet, piston, etc. I am having trouble cleaning the pilot jet though. Do they come out? I've tried witha screwdriver and they don't seem to want to turn. When I spary carb cleaner into the pilot iar passing on the front of the carb, it comes out of the hole in the top of the throat, but nothte pilot jet itself. On one carb, I can blow into the pilot jet and the air flows through it. ON the other 3 cabs, it sems as if there is not air passege from the pilot jet out to anywhere else. Question: Any suggestion for how to clean the internal passages in the crbs w/o disassembling the rack? Particuliarliy the pilot air circuit. Thanks! -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 12:18:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03767; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:18:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA22689; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:17:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from italy.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03659; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:17:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from earthlink.net (ip155.herndon21.va.pub-ip.psi.net [38.30.111.155]) by italy.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08269 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:17:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <351699CB.F504B0F9@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:20:11 -0500 From: "R. K. Dow" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 03/20/98 References: <199803210000.TAA07772@tove.cs.umd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI: The National Geographic television show. Featuring Lyle Lovett, Malcolm Smith and Scot Harden riding KTMs through Chile. Sunday, March 29 at 7 p.m. on TBS. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 12:32:09 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03942; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:32:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23060; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:31:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from italy.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03962; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:31:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from earthlink.net (ip155.herndon21.va.pub-ip.psi.net [38.30.111.155]) by italy.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19340 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:30:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35169CEC.6A76C9F9@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:33:32 -0500 From: "R. K. Dow" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Synthetic oil References: <199803210000.TAA07772@tove.cs.umd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Things certainly have died down since Squeakers left the list. Here is a link for a topic near-and-dear to flamers everywhere--Synthetic vs. traditional oil. http://www.ll.net/XS-XJ/stories/mcnoil94.htm From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 12:34:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03967; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:34:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23229; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA04022; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA08308 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:32:33 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:32:33 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Non-Moto: ARRGGH!!!!! Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:34:29 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 6 TEXT >So here it is a rainy Saturday night at 10PM (2200 for you military types). 0300Z for you really hard core types... Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 13:45:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04949; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:45:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24431; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA05834; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id NAA25691; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:51:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:51:23 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: Morris Berman cc: dc-cycle Subject: Re: Mikuni Carbs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The pilot jets should come out; you will need to buy or grind a screwdriver that fits the slot almost perfectly. The jets are soft brass, so it's easy to ruin them. On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Morris Berman wrote: > I recently picked up an 82 GS650GL that hade been sitting for quie a while. > I've pulled the carbs and have them disassembled. I've cleaned the main > jet, needle jet, piston, etc. I am having trouble cleaning the pilot jet > though. Do they come out? I've tried witha screwdriver and they don't > seem to want to turn. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 13:48:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA05009; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:48:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24701; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from gwsmtp.nlm.nih.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA05978; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from NLM-Message_Server by gwsmtp.nlm.nih.gov with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:47:46 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:47:37 -0500 From: Sandy Triolo To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: On Painting a bike When I did this on the Hurricane, I went to a couple of local automotive paint shops to see about painting the parts I had prepped. They seemed willing to do it, but the prices varied. Also if a non-bike shop does the paint, remember it needs to be of the flexible varity used for plastic that gives. I ended up shipping the parts to california because a friend of mine knew the owner of a bike shop there and I got a good price and Manufactures spec paint and decals. If you shop around I think you could get everything painted for less then 500. sandy 87 Hurricane 600F 85 Virago 1000 (going away) 89 VTR 250 >>> Linda Tanner 03/22 7:02 PM >>> I'm looking for recommendations to get my bike painted. I'd like to hear any experiences )good and bad) of any listers who have had it done. I'm looking to paint my bike one color and I'm willing to produces all the parts (all 15 of them) in ready to paint condition. Any names of companies and possible estimates on what it might cost. TIA LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 14:08:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05449; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:08:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25384; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:07:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06488; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:07:41 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA17924 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:08:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199803231908.AA17924@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:08:14 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:08:14 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:08:14 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:07:02 -0500 Subject: OK! I think I'm "fixed" now! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980321134439.006a711c@pop.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Not to beat a dead horse, but anyone who had previous problems with my email either being unreadable or coming in as an undefined file attachment SHOULD be reading this ok now. We had to modify the outgoing configuration file in Openmail, (madmd.cfg for you Openmail propeller heads), to exclude the file transfer body part and only configure it as an IA5 text body part. Anyway..let me know if any of you are still having problems reading my mail. obmoto: My SO gave me the "go ahead" to put down money on a future order of a year 2000 HD FAT BOY!!!!!! I'm gonna have a millenium (sp?) Harley!!!! Woo Woo!! cheers, -aki <-- who's gonna give my Jenny my Magna on Jan 1st of year 2000! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 14:29:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05859; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:29:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25920; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailprime.tidalwave.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06996; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailprime.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 236; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:27:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3516B7DF.AE92C0FF@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:28:31 -0500 From: "horkster" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Love and Marriage References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D52F5B9@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > > You all are making me SO JEALOUS!! I went in the fiancée's cage > today... : ( > -- Jeannette, Hurry up and marry that guy so you can start riding your own bike again! (I'm teasing!) I remember back when Tracy and I were dating, she'd always sit in the middle of the seat in whatever cage I was driving, nice and close. Now that we're married, she's over by the window, as far away as possible (in the cage), or on her own bike (otherwise). Who says marriage makes people closer? :-) All the above in jest! Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 14:47:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06105; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:47:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA26134; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailprime.tidalwave.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA07479; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailprime.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 96; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:45:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3516BBFB.18DC2F55@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:46:03 -0500 From: "horkster" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "R. K. Dow" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 03/20/98 References: <199803210000.TAA07772@tove.cs.umd.edu> <351699CB.F504B0F9@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit R. K. Dow wrote: > > FYI: > > The National Geographic television show. > > Featuring Lyle Lovett, Malcolm Smith and Scot Harden riding KTMs through Chile. > > Sunday, March 29 at 7 p.m. on TBS. R.K., The last thing I'd ever want to see in this lifetime is Lyle Lovett with helmet hair. :-) -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 14:50:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06130; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:50:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA26238; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA07608; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:48:50 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA20087 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:49:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199803231949.AA20087@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:49:10 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:49:10 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:49:10 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:46:04 -0500 Subject: Re: On Painting a bike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME We had my and Jennys bikes repainted (the tanks and side covers) at the auto body shop near Arts shop in Falls Church (Riders Accessory Warehouse) about two years ago..it was recommended by Art. The guy who repainted them charged us $100 a pop for each bike and had both of them ready in about two weeks. We just had to supply the decals (which Art had in stock) and specify the paint scheme. What was nice was that both of the gas tanks were stripped down to bare metal and completely repainted instead of just roughing up the paint and painting over it. The guy is one of the master painters there and did a terrific job on both bikes..much better than factory and he also filled in all the little dings on the gas tanks at no additional charge. I wish I had taken a picture of the Harley Softtail he had repainted..*very* nice with alot of airbrushing...obviously he likes painting bikes... it's been two years now and the paint jobs look as good as new. Give Art a call at Riders for details on how to contact this guy if you're interested. The shop is located just about two buildings further down the street from Art on the same side of the street. cheers, -aki > When I did this on the Hurricane, I went to a couple of local automotive paint s > hops to see about painting the parts I had prepped. They seemed willing to do it > , but the prices varied. Also if a non-bike shop does the paint, remember it nee > ds to be of the flexible varity used for plastic that gives. I ended up shipping > the parts to california because a friend of mine knew the owner of a bike shop > there and I got a good price and Manufactures spec paint and decals. If you shop > around I think you could get everything painted for less then 500. > > sandy > 87 Hurricane 600F > 85 Virago 1000 (going away) > 89 VTR 250 > > >>> Linda Tanner 03/22 7:02 PM >>> > I'm looking for recommendations to get my bike painted. I'd like to hear any ex > periences )good and bad) of any listers who have had it done. I'm looking to pa > int my bike one color and I'm willing to produces all the parts > (all 15 of them) in ready to paint condition. > > Any names of companies and possible estimates on what it might cost. > > TIA > > LindaT. > 95 F3 Purple Haze > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 15:02:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06305; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26695; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:01:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07938; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:01:14 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA20723 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:01:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199803232001.AA20723@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:01:42 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:01:42 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:01:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:59:04 -0500 Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 03/20/98 To: horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, r_k_dow@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3516BBFB.18DC2F55@tidalwave.net> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME GAK!!! Don't *DO* that! I almost choked on my peanut M&M's! ;-) -aki > R. K. Dow wrote: > > > > FYI: > > > > The National Geographic television show. > > > > Featuring Lyle Lovett, Malcolm Smith and Scot Harden riding KTMs through Chile > . > > > > Sunday, March 29 at 7 p.m. on TBS. > > R.K., > > The last thing I'd ever want to see in this lifetime > is Lyle Lovett with helmet hair. :-) > > -- > > Dale Horstman (the Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > > 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD > 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 15:09:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06482; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:09:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26791; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:08:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08127; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:08:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD566C.9E396460@XXXXXX>; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:01:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: FW: touring america Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:01:53 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey folks... something cool(well mostly) to read: -Tom '86 VFR750 >-----Original Message----- >From: Louis Dean [SMTP:ldean@XXXXXX] >Sent: Monday, March 23, 1998 2:25 PM >To: Tom Zell; Jon Baker; Mike Dean; Steve Mills; Chris Buthmann; Andrew >Smialek >Subject: touring america > >http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcworld/samba.html >cool story >-- >======================================================= >======================================================= > Louis E. Dean > GIS Analyst > City of Portsmouth Va. > U.S.A. >======================================================= >All responsibility for content is mine and mine alone. >======================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 15:09:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06487; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26798; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:08:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailprime.tidalwave.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08139; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailprime.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 217 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:07:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3516C12B.18C5748A@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:08:11 -0500 From: "horkster" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycle Subject: Re: Brassy Carbs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Garcia Oliver wrote: > > The pilot jets should come out; you will need to buy or grind a > screwdriver that fits the slot almost perfectly. The jets are soft > brass, so it's easy to ruin them. What's up with the soft brass carb components anyway? Grrr. Why do manufacturers use this wimpy crap? I've mangled a couple pilot jets for my LTD that way, and completely stripped the head of another brass screw that holds the valve needle in place (I hope I never have to adjust those stupid things). I was using decent screwdrivers, too. -- Horkster Brass-bane, wrecker of all things delicate horkster@XXXXXX 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 15:33:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06820; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27070; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:31:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08751; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:31:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com ([209.49.109.130]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20248 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:31:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980323153326.006ae094@pop.mindspring.com> Received: from [172.16.4.56] by firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com via smtpd (for ftp.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) with SMTP; 23 Mar 1998 20:31:40 UT X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:33:26 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Lyle Lovett Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:46 PM 3/23/98 -0500, horkster wrote: >The last thing I'd ever want to see in this lifetime >is Lyle Lovett with helmet hair. :-) Interesting, last year I saw a show about a motorcycle tour through Baja California, with Lyle Lovett as the celebrity. A company out there does desert bike tours. I was indeed frightening seeing his dust-covered face crowned with helmet-head. Although he is an excellent advocate for motorcyclists, that image helped me see why Julia Roberts had second thoughts. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 15:36:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06883; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:36:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27095; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:35:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from the.martinagency.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08824; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by the.martinagency.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA5900 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:27:41 -0800 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:11:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 10:11:36 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: berryrw@XXXXXX, shephar1@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, harley@XXXXXX, xl-list@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Sportster Fairing/DC metro dealers -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline A buddy of mine bought his 1200 from the dealer in Virginia Beach sans gouging. I don't have the number, but he'll be listed in your H.O.G. touring guide (mine's at work). Or go to H-D's website, there's a dealer locator thing there. Joe Nagy >>> "Roy W. Berry" 03/21/98 07:31pm >>> Ken Check out the Drag Specitilies for your fairing, I have one its an Alren Ness which I customized alittle. For A HD Dealer check out Harley of Frederick, MD. Roy Berry Ken S. wrote: > On page 45 of the 1998 Harley Parts Catalog, thats the last page of > the > Screaming eagle chapter, is a photograph on the lower left labeled > 'Street Class winner Donnie Huffman gets ready for the next round of > eliminations.' The orange and black sportster pictured has a mini > fairing and windshield, which I am interested in finding imformation > about. I have not located it in the catalogues I have checked and was > > hoping someone might be able to shed some light on who makes it, > whether > its just a one off or if its a production item and from who. Thanx.. > > On another note, any HD riders in the Wash DC metro area know > of a > dealer selling Sportsters at list price. I have decided to stay with > another HD as my next project but am going to customize it into a > quasi > Cafe-Racer. (Really just wish HD would bring the XLCR back.), If > there > aren't any local, I may even try Barnetts. My local dealer from whom > I > purchased my two previous Sportsters is still charging $1800.00 over > list price for a basic Sporty. Bloody ridiculous...;(. Thanx again, > Ride Safe, Looking forward to riding in the snow tomorrow.... BRRR, > Who > says its bloody springtime..... > -- > Ken S. > 1996 XLH1200 > Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 15:54:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07224; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27229; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA09329; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:53:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA13001 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:52:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3516F6A2.1691@mnsinc.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:56:18 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: FS: HD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gang, This from news: va.forsale Usual disclaimers apply... -- John Kozyn ==================================================== 1990 HARLY LOW RIDER FOR SALE. BLACK, BEAUTIFUL, GARAGE KEPT MACHINE, NEW SS CARBS AND CUSTOM PIPES AND SADDLE BAGS, CHROME EVERYWHERE. 10,500 MILES, CLEAN AS NEW. $13,500 FIRM. E-MAIL MOLIVER5@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 17:52:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08819; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA28631; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:49:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemini.smart.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA12075; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:49:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from richard ([206.97.127.180]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA00559 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:49:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3516DAD6.5548@smart.net> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:45:58 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Gimer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-Cycles Subject: Weekend ride? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Judging by the weather reports, this weekend should be an excellent one for a group ride. Another Westerly route like two weekends ago would be great if someone knows the area good enough (Todd or Michael J???).....otherwise we could try a run starting in Montgomery County through Frederick County and up to the Harpers Ferry area and beyond. Any takers? -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 17:52:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08824; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA28640; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA12095; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:50:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-201.s201.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.201]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03329; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:50:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3516E786.676CE270@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:51:50 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: horkster CC: dc-cycle Subject: Re: Brassy Carbs References: <3516C12B.18C5748A@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My guess (and that's exactly what it is) is that they use the brass components in these regions for corrosion resistance... The highly turbulent flow combined with some of the nastier properties of gas might damage ferrous parts used in these areas... Again, just me guessing Collin horkster wrote: > > What's up with the soft brass carb components anyway? Grrr. > Why do manufacturers use this wimpy crap? _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 18:10:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA09002; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA28875; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA12504; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from my-workstation (client196-127-134.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.134]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id SAA11628; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:00:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980323175719.009d6ce0@wingate> X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:57:19 -0500 To: aki.damme@XXXXXX, horkster@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 03/20/98 Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, r_k_dow@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199803232001.AA20723@egate2.citicorp.com> References: <3516BBFB.18DC2F55@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Actually, I met him on his Duc during my BRP trip last year at one of the gas-stop towns. Didn't notice the hair, just the leather suit. MET At 02:59 PM 3/23/98 -0500, aki.damme@XXXXXX wrote: >> The last thing I'd ever want to see in this lifetime >> is Lyle Lovett with helmet hair. :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 18:36:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA09245; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:36:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA29275; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:34:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA13166; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:34:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (Pool-207-205-202-78.kop.grid.net [207.205.202.78]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA29270 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:34:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980323183512.2227b914@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: nopaco@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:35:12 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Scott Myers Subject: FS '86 VFR 750 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" '86 VFR 750 for sale, 13,000 miles, new K591 on the rearfresh oil and filter. Great shape makes a good economical and comfortable ride. $2,800.00 Respond off list to: Scott Myers (o) 703 299 0774 Email: nopaco@XXXXXX Thanks!! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 19:31:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA09954; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:31:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA29596; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from suntan.kleks.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA14507; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:30:26 -0500 (EST) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.kleks.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) id TAA01833 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:31:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803240031.TAA01833@suntan.kleks.org> Subject: Non-Moto: ARRGGH!!!!! (fwd) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:31:44 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > he calls me ready to go:) ... anyone else is welcome to come hang > out...just give me a call (but not earlier than 9 :) > Collin I did. Thanks, Collin ! (pictures coming in 2 weeks). We started with fun - Collin needed to change bikes. Clearly, KZ was too slow for him, so he decided to ride a TL on this day. He warmed up tires with a few wheelies on off-ramp from tool road leaving into rt 28. Then he lead me thtough some nice coreners between Waxpool, Greenway and Belmon Ridge road. Next we went south of Leesburg, and again via side roads to Purceville Somewhere there third guy on a blue (custom paint, great) TL. We went into MacDonald to warm a little, After it, it was for me to head home - so slab was easiest, Collin and new friend went little further. That was a nice ride - for the first time I tried to ride my mount just a little harder, relearning how far I can lean, and how much pressure to appy to get a nice angle. > (703) 356-4279 > Collin T. Fagan _zjt From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 19:36:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA10000; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA29613; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:35:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA14613; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:35:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA03607 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:34:36 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803240034.SAA03607@dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com> Received: from lbg-va1-04.ix.netcom.com(205.186.72.36) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma003575; Mon Mar 23 18:34:09 1998 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Hank" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:59:42 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 03/23/98 Reply-to: conteh@XXXXXX X-Confirm-Reading-To: conteh@XXXXXX X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Jeannette asked about a place to get leathers altered. There's a place in Great Falls, VA called "Tricks of the Trade." They advertise in the Motorcycle Times They fixed a pair of First Gear Overpants for me at a reasonable price. They do a lot of stuff for the "horsey" set. Hank From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 21:33:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA11379; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA02415; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA16569; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-201.s201.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.201]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07170; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:32:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35171B81.1A31EE9B@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:33:37 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Mark E. Truelove" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 03/20/98 References: <3516BBFB.18DC2F55@tidalwave.net> <3.0.1.32.19980323175719.009d6ce0@wingate> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Which Duc??? He owns at least three at last count I heard :) (It would be nice) Mark E. Truelove wrote: > > Actually, I met him on his Duc during my BRP trip last year ...... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 21:33:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA11381; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA02440; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:32:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from enterprise.reliacom.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA16581; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by enterprise.reliacom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:32:07 -0000 Message-ID: <1FEC5DA89BADD1118007006008A591101C0C@enterprise.reliacom.com> From: Scot Kight To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Lyle Lovett Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:32:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain My strange lyle lovett story.. I was about to buy my ducati 900ss/cr. So I go to the bank. Everything is fine. I go on over to battleys, and the bike I was thinking about is gone, in fact the 4 ducati's on the floor are gone. I say to one of the guys, "Wheres my bike?" "Lyle lovett walked in yesterday, gave us a check, and took em all." He might have bad hair, but at least he has good taste in bikes ;> Scot 95 Ducati 900ss/cr > At 02:46 PM 3/23/98 -0500, horkster wrote: > >The last thing I'd ever want to see in this lifetime > >is Lyle Lovett with helmet hair. :-) > > Interesting, last year I saw a show about a motorcycle tour > through Baja > California, with Lyle Lovett as the celebrity. A company out > there does > desert bike tours. I was indeed frightening seeing his > dust-covered face > crowned with helmet-head. Although he is an excellent advocate for > motorcyclists, that image helped me see why Julia Roberts had > second thoughts. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 23:04:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA12211; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:04:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA03066; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA17817; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:03:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-201.s201.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.201]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24591; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:02:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351730A0.E035D94E@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:03:44 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Zbigniew J. Tyrlik" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, jencraig@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Yesterday's riding.. was ARRGH.. References: <199803240031.TAA01833@suntan.kleks.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, so I blow the motor in the KZ less than a week after getting it running... It wasn't a major core meltdown though so I think repair will be fairly easy (and reasonabley cheap)... As Zbig mentioned, we got a bit of riding in despite the troubles (the wind was fierce too)... After splitting up at McD's, Craig and I headed back down 704 and into ashburn via Evergreen Mill and Ryan roads.... From there we tooka few test laps at the top secret proving ground and called it a day. Craig is pretty darn quick on that TL.... And try as I might, I just can't ride Jack's TL nearly as fast as I can my gixer..... That V-twin power is incredible, but getting it to the pavement is so much different feeling than on the inline four. And the ride position is much different, much more leg room on the TL, but the ride position does annoy the neck muscles a bit (mostly from fighting wind..even in full tuck, the windscreen is less than useless) I gave Craig the subscription info to DC-cycles, so hopefully he'll be joining us soon!! -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 23:09:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA12275; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:09:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA03086; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:08:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA17898; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:08:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1GBHa24659 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:08:18 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9 Message-ID: <38a437f9.351731b4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:08:18 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: WoooHooo! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Hey, just writing to let you all know that my cbr is up and running... thanks for all the advice, I cleaned the carbs, threw in some fresh plugs, and gave her some nice 94octane and she came alive.. I went riding all day today. It sure was a beautiful day... then again, isnt it always when your on your bike? If anyone ever wants to go for a ride sometime let me know. Sean Ride Free! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 23 23:21:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA12571; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA03165; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:20:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA18304; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:20:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1UNEa20453 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:19:48 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9 Message-ID: <66da15fd.35173466@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:19:48 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Heres a question Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 My roomate was describing my bike to one of his coworkers and he said he wanted to race me for money, titles, etc.. But thats not the point, Im not stupid enough to do dumb stuff like that... My question is that he said he had a KZ, and well... I thought that was like a dual purpose 2 stroker.. I guess I was wrong after reading some other mail, but if someone could fill me in I would appreciate it. Sean Ride Free From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 01:32:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA13848; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA04583; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:29:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA19872; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:29:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from my-workstation (client196-127-28.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.28]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id BAA02586; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:28:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980324012422.00850920@wingate> X-Sender: true911#postoffice.bellatlantic.net@wingate X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 01:24:22 -0500 To: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 03/20/98 Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <35171B81.1A31EE9B@geocities.com> References: <3516BBFB.18DC2F55@tidalwave.net> <3.0.1.32.19980323175719.009d6ce0@wingate> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'd have said if I remembered, but I was distracted when I turned around and he said, "Hi, I'm Lyle." Like, no kiddin'! My friend Todd said he thought better of himself, but the first thing on the tip of his tongue was to ask about Julia. :) MET At 09:33 PM 3/23/98 -0500, Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) wrote: >Which Duc??? He owns at least three at last count I heard :) >(It would be nice) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ Polaris Technology Group http://www.angelfire.com/biz/polaristech/ Placement Specialists: SAP PeopleSoft Notes Fiber-Optics NT UNIX DBs ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 03:27:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA14784; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:27:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA05319; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:26:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA21000; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:26:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:28:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "R. K. Dow" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Synthetic oil Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:28:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) I think someone posted this a while back. Anyhow, I have been using Mobil 1 for about 10 years in my vehicles and will continue to use it. BTW, for anyone that is interested... Price Club seems to have about the best price on Mobil 1 in the area. I think its about $21 a sixer. The Newington Price Club is the only one that I know of that also carries the 15W50 weight. Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna > Things certainly have died down since Squeakers left the list. > > Here is a link for a topic near-and-dear to flamers everywhere--Synthetic vs. traditional > oil. > > http://www.ll.net/XS-XJ/stories/mcnoil94.htm > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 06:41:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA15924; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA08255; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:39:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA22629; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:39:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-57-251.s251.tnt2.ann.erols.com [207.172.57.251]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14673; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:39:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35179BCB.56392A90@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:40:59 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CloudsAbv9 CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Heres a question References: <66da15fd.35173466@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sean, You're thinking of the KDX.. that's kawi's 2-smoke DP. The KZ came in a two basic configurations: standard and LTD... The LTD is a little more cruiserish. The KZ line eventually melded into the GPz line which eventually became the ninjas and ZX series..... A bigger model KZ would probably stand a fair chance against your CBR, especially if the carbs aren't 100%. I had an old 82 KZ650 that would absolutely scream in a straight line... but the thing was so heavy, cornering was a different story Collin (the KZ550 I have now is an LTD...err, was...got the valve cover off last night, and all head bolts pulled...tonight I'm pulling the head and seeing what damage was done..rats-a@#) _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 06:50:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA16012; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:50:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA08304; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA22700; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 06:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA02550 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:49:42 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:49:42 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'DC-Cycles'" Subject: RE: Weekend ride? Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:52:19 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 8 TEXT >otherwise we could try a run starting in Montgomery County >through Frederick County and up to the Harpers Ferry area and beyond. That sounds nice - I've been through that are infrequently, but I remember nice roads and scenery. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 07:43:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA16341; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:43:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA08850; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:42:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA23036; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:42:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id AA00D6009E; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:41:36 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980324074349.00eda860@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 07:43:49 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: I-66 *CLOSED* (westbound, inside Beltway) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anybody see I-66, westbound side at Glebe Road this morning? Collin, I guess you did. A water main broke, and a tall retaining wall (maybe 20-25 ft.) displaced laterally about 30 ft.! The grass slope that used to run from the base of the wall down to the shoulder of 66 is now in the left lane. The retaining wall, still mostly vertical, is in the right lane. Incredible. I wonder what it was like for the first driver to come upon that in the night? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 08:05:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA16477; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:05:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA09012; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23285; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id FAA17998; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:03:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id FAA28702; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:03:11 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id FAA28697; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:03:11 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD56E2.2430FDB0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:03:10 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Thomas H. Gimer'" , "'DC-Cycles'" Subject: RE: Weekend ride? Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 04:58:53 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 21 TEXT Sure, count me in if the ride is for Saturday. Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >-----Original Message----- >From: Thomas H. Gimer [SMTP:tgimer@XXXXXX] >Sent: Monday, March 23, 1998 2:46 PM >To: DC-Cycles >Subject: Weekend ride? > >Judging by the weather reports, this weekend should be an excellent one >for a group ride. Another Westerly route like two weekends ago would be >great if someone knows the area good enough (Todd or Michael >J???).....otherwise we could try a run starting in Montgomery County >through Frederick County and up to the Harpers Ferry area and beyond. > >Any takers? > >-- >Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 08:14:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA16579; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:14:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA09090; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23453; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD56FC.70BC2E10@XXXXXX>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: RE: I-66 *CLOSED* (westbound, inside Beltway) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:11:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 26 TEXT I believe I heard on the news that the first driver was hit by some of the retaining wall - damaging his car but not hurting him. ---------- From: Chris Norloff[SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 7:43 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: I-66 *CLOSED* (westbound, inside Beltway) Anybody see I-66, westbound side at Glebe Road this morning? Collin, I guess you did. A water main broke, and a tall retaining wall (maybe 20-25 ft.) displaced laterally about 30 ft.! The grass slope that used to run from the base of the wall down to the shoulder of 66 is now in the left lane. The retaining wall, still mostly vertical, is in the right lane. Incredible. I wonder what it was like for the first driver to come upon that in the night? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 08:19:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA16599; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA09121; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:18:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23509; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:18:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13389; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 05:18:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3517B281.E39BC59F@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:17:54 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Norloff CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I-66 *CLOSED* (westbound, inside Beltway) References: <3.0.1.32.19980324074349.00eda860@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep, I did.. That was pretty impressive, although I'm sure westbound folks didn't share my sentiments.... Eastbound was bad enough with all the rubbernecking. Chris Norloff wrote: > Anybody see I-66, westbound side at Glebe Road this morning? Collin, I > guess you did. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 09:07:22 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16983; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA09431; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24122; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id JAA13175; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma013168; Tue, 24 Mar 98 09:05:38 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:06:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: I-66 *CLOSED* (westbound, inside Beltway) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:06:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain I noticed something was up when I took my usual route westbound on Washington Blvd from Clarendon to East Falls Church (it usually moves faster than 66 west). Whoops! So it took me an hour to get into work today. Oh well. on the plus side when you could finally get on to 66 it moved really nicely! --John Whiteside > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 7:44 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: I-66 *CLOSED* (westbound, inside Beltway) > > Anybody see I-66, westbound side at Glebe Road this morning? Collin, I > guess you did. > > A water main broke, and a tall retaining wall (maybe 20-25 ft.) displaced > laterally about 30 ft.! The grass slope that used to run from the base of > the wall down to the shoulder of 66 is now in the left lane. The > retaining > wall, still mostly vertical, is in the right lane. > > Incredible. > > I wonder what it was like for the first driver to come upon that in the > night? > > Chris Norloff > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 09:22:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17122; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA09559; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24391; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:21:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA09001 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:21:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA11997 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:21:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980324142101.QSCF27632@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:21:01 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:16 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Weekend ride? X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980324142101.QSCF27632@[166.41.242.141]> I might be interested in Saturday in MD if that's how it pans out. Gotta be back in the Springfield area before 4pm though. Todd <<>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 09:23:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17140; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA09564; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:22:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24413; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD5705.91489CF0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:16:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)'" , "'horkster'" Cc: "'dc-cycle'" Subject: RE: Brassy Carbs Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:16:44 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, I had that same guess so..... we must be right! Later, -Tom '86 VFR750F >-----Original Message----- >From: Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) [SMTP:gixer@XXXXXX] >Sent: Monday, March 23, 1998 5:52 PM >To: horkster >Cc: dc-cycle >Subject: Re: Brassy Carbs > >My guess (and that's exactly what it is) is that they use the brass >components in these regions for corrosion resistance... The highly >turbulent flow combined with some of the nastier properties of gas might >damage ferrous parts used in these areas... >Again, just me guessing >Collin > >horkster wrote: >> > >> What's up with the soft brass carb components anyway? Grrr. >> Why do manufacturers use this wimpy crap? > >_________________________________________ >Collin and Penny Fagan >LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard >(202) 366-0067 (work) >(703) 356-4279 (home) >ICQ UIN: 435732 >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ >(us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 09:29:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17203; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:29:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA09620; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24523; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:28:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD5706.69E99D20@XXXXXX>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:22:49 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'CloudsAbv9'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Heres a question Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:22:48 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tell your buddy I'll run him with my VFR... I need the money!!! : ) And if he's really interested...tell him I have a Chevelle that I'll gladly spank him with, too... if he's game. later, -Tom '86 VFR750 >-----Original Message----- >From: CloudsAbv9 [SMTP:CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX] >Sent: Monday, March 23, 1998 11:20 PM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Heres a question > >My roomate was describing my bike to one of his coworkers and he said he >wanted to race me for money, titles, etc.. But thats not the point, Im not >stupid enough to do dumb stuff like that... My question is that he said he >had >a KZ, and well... I thought that was like a dual purpose 2 stroker.. I guess >I >was wrong after reading some other mail, but if someone could fill me in I >would appreciate it. > >Sean >Ride Free From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 09:52:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17437; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA10164; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:51:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from emshqs2.ncr.disa.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24985; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:51:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803241451.JAA24985@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: by emshqs2.ncr.disa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:50:17 -0500 From: "Mersch, Tom" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re:Saturday Ride Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:45:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain saturday, warm weather, monkey, fred, harper, beyond... I'm in. tom mersch From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 10:01:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17647; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:01:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10458; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:00:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25274; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:00:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA26469; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:59:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA01460; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980324145936.WVPX27160@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:59:36 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:55 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: Distribution@XXXXXX Subject: Inflating Tires....Long X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980324145936.WVPX27160@[166.41.242.141]> Got this from the ST1100 (moto) list and found it very amusing if a little long. This has to do with solving the problem of keeping tires inflated and one 'manly mans' answer....read on. _____Document mode.. From: (Robert Coats) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 98 7:59:22 EST Subject: ST1100: Inflated Some recent comments about rear tire removal included ideas on inflating the tire. While the original authors no doubt were thinking of how to help others on the list, it was quite disturbing to me to read of how decidedly un-manly and de-evolved both solutions were prescribed. Mike said: > ...go down to the local auto parts store and buy a portable air tank. Sounds all well and good, but does it meet the manly test? Having to leave the house to purchase a tool is very high up on the list of manly events. There are reams of evidence that our male ancestors in the great jungles often left the main group to search for items crucial for survival. Clearly, keeping the air pressure in the rear tire ranks right up there with food and shelter. However, upon further examination, the author suggest purchasing an air tank. Now down at the hardware store, the dominant males uses such tanks for entertainment, to laugh and quietly mock those men who purchase them, knowing they seek a path of false hopes. Sure, an air tank "does the job," but you have to get it filled over and over again and subject yourself to torment from real men. Yes, a "real man" would melt his Visa and pop for the twin-cylinder, belt-driven, 200 psi, 220 VAC hardwired, vertical tank compressor, Black Bart. The kind that you can relish a trip to the hardware store...let's listen in: You: "You got any concrete anchors?" Clerk: "Sure, what size you need mister?" You: "Well, I'm anchoring down my new vertical air compressor to the garage floor, and..." At this point, the entire store will fall silent, and men stop in their tracks to bow to your manliness. Out of respect, they will give way to you in line and remain quietly in awe at the enormity of your machismo. And in the silence, you might even hear the pilppty-plop of estrogen dripping from any number of female cashiers, all eager to humbly serve the loins of such a manly-man as you. There is a chance one or two other males may still not be impressed. In such a case, you need only loudly proclaim a need for "90-feet of 1/2" copper line...and a dozen air outlet fittings...throw in a spool of acid-core solder too so I can run air lines to all *three* stalls in my garage." At this point, you will totally own the attention of every male and female within earshot. Now another person (Doug) said: >...consider...a bicycle tire pump. I think I should rather have my gonads bitten off by wild dogs than to stoop to such an unmanly act! This goes against everything western civilization has stood for since the Magna Carta. As industrial nations, we didn't endure war, disease and pestilence to raise ourselves to the technology-rich societies we are today so we could use a *manual* pump. Especially one made for a bicycle, a transportation mode preferred by alternate lifestylers and children. Why don't we all carry organically pure veggies and tofu in our tank bags at the same time? Perhaps we could install crystals and listen to John Tesch *music* to exorcise headshake. Nay, I shall never take that path, and you'd be wise to reconsider either choice. No, an air tank and a foot pump just won't cut it, guys. Evolve and embrace the tools provided to you with just a swipe of the pen. Install that compressor and bust a knuckle or two in the process. Purchase big, expensive and dangerous tools for it...run pivoting overhead feeder lines, but most of all, be sure to use one of those massive, 20-inch long truck-tire pressure gauges to fill that rear tire! - --- Robert "I've Got My Nomex On" Coats STOC #99 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 10:13:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17821; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:13:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10598; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from out5.ibm.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25531; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:12:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ibm.net (slip129-37-123-27.mo.us.ibm.net [129.37.123.27]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA141208 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:12:42 GMT Message-ID: <3517CEC5.E54A6246@ibm.net> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:18:30 -0500 From: Robert Johnston Reply-To: rjohns3@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: List Administrator Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is the address for adding and removing one's address from this list? TIA rwj From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 10:14:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA17826; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:14:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10602; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25535; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:12:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id KAA18672; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:12:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma018646; Tue, 24 Mar 98 10:12:33 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:13:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Saturday Ride Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:13:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Jeez, my boxes are unpacked from my move, the weather's warming up -- could it be that I'll actually be able to make a dc-cycles ride? I'm a definite maybe... --John Whiteside From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 11:13:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA18620; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11707; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26665; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:11:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-205.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.205]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA01454; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:12:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3517DAEE.E6401C3@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:10:22 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Yesterday's riding.. was ARRGH.. References: <199803240031.TAA01833@suntan.kleks.org> <351730A0.E035D94E@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Details ? ? ? Since you say it's repairable, it must not be over-revving it. Leon. Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) wrote: > Ok, so I blow the motor in the KZ less than a week after getting it > running... It wasn't a major core meltdown though so I think repair will > be fairly easy (and reasonabley cheap)... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 11:23:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA18772; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11795; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:22:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26933; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-205.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.205]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA01838; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:24:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3517DDAD.2B41922F@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:22:05 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CloudsAbv9 CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Heres a question References: <66da15fd.35173466@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CloudsAbv9 wrote: > My roomate was describing my bike to one of his coworkers and he said he > wanted to race me for money, titles, etc.. Yesterday morning my bike woudn't start (one of the connectors in the wiring harness pulled apart) so I rode the moped to work. (it was that or a car) Dale City to Tyson's Corner in just over an hour. I passed one motorcycle on the way home, a Harley, I passed on the right shoulder as he was stopped for a light in Vienna. When I got almost home, I saw a couple of kids with a moped, so I stopped to talk to them. The first words the one on the bike said is "Wanna race?" I turned around and pointed mine in the opposite direction and asked him where he wanted to race to. We were about 100 feet from a corner, he suggested racing to the corner about 1/4 mile after that. He said go, and I got turned around was in the lead within 200 feet. I then turned around again and headed back, he was smart enough to also give up. Leon. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 11:51:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19333; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11944; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:50:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from meretrix.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27883; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.meretrix.com [127.0.0.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29326; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:50:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803241650.LAA29326@meretrix.com> To: rjohns3@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: List Administrator In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:18:30 EST." <3517CEC5.E54A6246@XXXXXX> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:50:21 -0500 From: Harry Mantakos >What is the address for adding and removing one's address from this >list? All subscribe/unsubscribe/etc requests should be emailed to the human at dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX . In accordance with list policy, a rookie cop has been dispatched to administer your beating (hey, I don't make the rules...) -harry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 11:51:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19335; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11942; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:50:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27880; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A42C201036E; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:49:48 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980324115050.00f4b140@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:50:50 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Mobile Phones Cause Over 2,200 Accidents in Japan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This showed up in the TELECOM digest-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:20:25 -0500 From: Monty Solomon Subject: Mobile Phones Cause Over 2,200 Accidents in Japan TOKYO (Reuters) - As if narrow streets and too many cars weren't enough of a headache for Japanese drivers, a new menace has appeared in the form of the mobile phone. Drivers using mobile phones caused 2,297 traffic accidents in 1997, killing 25 and injuring more than 3,000, the National Police Agency said Thursday in the first survey of its kind. The total number of accidents was 780,399. Nearly half the phone-related accidents took place while drivers were trying to answer the phone, followed by 27.6 percent as they were trying to make a call, and finally 16.4 percent while they were speaking on the phone, a police spokesman said. In most cases, drivers using phones smashed into the car ahead of them. A spokesman at NTT Docomo, one of Japan's largest mobile phone companies, said that people should think carefully about the manners of using mobile phones. "We definitely recommend that people not make calls from their cars and suggest they pull over to answer," he said. A large majority, or 78.5 percent, of the phone-related accidents were caused by male drivers, police said. Japan, with an estimated 36 million mobile phones in use, is the second in the world after the United States. ------------------------------ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 11:53:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19363; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11973; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:52:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27901; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26226 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:52:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3517E49D.471F263D@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:51:41 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Heres a question References: <66da15fd.35173466@aol.com> <3517DDAD.2B41922F@illuminet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leon and his "sleeper" moped... he he he Leon Begeman wrote: > He said go, and I got turned around was in the lead > within 200 feet. I then turned around again and headed back, he was smart enough > to also give up. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 11:55:31 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19399; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11989; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:54:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from drquest.digex.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27930; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:54:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.17.2.31 (pix000138.staff.digex.net [206.205.168.150]) by drquest.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA01176; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:54:15 -0500 X-Mailer: InterCon tcpCONNECT4 4.0.2 (Macintosh) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9803241156.AA14931@172.17.2.31> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:56:14 -0500 From: "Matt Elliott - DIGEX" To: Todd Peer , DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Weekend ride? Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: Inline I'm up for a Westerly route on Saturday, pending any manly house chores my wife might want me to do... Where's the meet point/time for NoVA folks? -> back into lurk mode.... Matt 95 Nighthawk > > I might be interested in Saturday in MD if that's how it pans out. > Gotta be back in the Springfield area before 4pm though. > > Todd > > > << one for a group ride. Another Westerly route like two weekends ago > would be great if someone knows the area good enough (Todd or Michael > J???).....otherwise we could try a run starting in Montgomery > County through Frederick County and up to the Harpers Ferry area > and beyond. > > Any takers?>>> > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 12:12:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA19779; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:12:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12195; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:11:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA28510; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:11:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29940; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:11:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3517E911.32BB815E@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:10:41 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leon Begeman CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re:Blown Motor References: <199803240031.TAA01833@suntan.kleks.org> <351730A0.E035D94E@geocities.com> <3517DAEE.E6401C3@illuminet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I took it out heading west on the toll road Sunday, fighting a very brutal headwind. I was pushing the thing a we bit hard (high load.. but rpm's well below red) when suddenly the power began dropping off. Upon exiting the toll road (noticed some smoke exiting tailpipe), I pulled over to see that I had generously coated the rear half of the bike with oil :( I say repairable, but I'm guessing at this point. It'll still start and run, and there aren't any foul sounds being emmitted. I pulled the valve covers last night and lossened the head bolts. Tonight, I'll make sure I have the engine in the right spot then I'll pull the head and have a look see inside. I'm guessing that an oil ring failed, or a nice little hole in a piston (hopefully the former).. I thought maybe a valve guide was trashe or something along those lines, but the rupture disks in the valve covers didn't pop so I doubt that is the problem.... We'll see tonight. I probably should have torn it down this far before riding it anyhow. The valve cover was leaking on the left side and a few other minor things... I HAVE found the culprit responsible for the intermittent power drop it was having. One coil was missing a nut, and one of its connections was barely touching, so I was intermittently loosing one or two cylinders before. So the KZ saga continues.....I'll keep everyone posted... Collin (hmmm.. I wonder what kind of sleeper I'd have if I squeezed a cbr or older ninja motor down in there :) ) he he he Leon Begeman wrote: > Details ? ? ? Since you say it's repairable, it must not be over-revving > it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 13:08:30 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA20714; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:08:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA13063; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29745; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:07:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:08:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: Harry Mantakos , DC Cycles Subject: RE: List Administrator Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:08:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Hey Harry, on a different topic, are you EVER going to break out your bike and going riding with the rest of the list? Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna > All subscribe/unsubscribe/etc requests should be emailed to the human > at dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX . > > In accordance with list policy, a rookie cop has been dispatched to > administer your beating (hey, I don't make the rules...) > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 13:14:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA20800; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:14:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA13109; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:13:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29882; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:13:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:14:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: Leon Begeman , DC Cycles Subject: RE: Heres a question Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:14:51 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Yesterday morning my bike wouldn't start (one of the connectors in the wiring harness pulled apart) so I rode the moped to work. (it was that or a car) Dale City to Tyson's Corner in just over an hour. I passed one motorcycle on the way home, a Harley, I passed on the right shoulder as he was stopped for a light in Vienna. Pretty funny. I don't think I would ride a moped over a car though. No offense but I usually laugh at people riding mopeds. Especially adults. I usually think of those people as the ones who probably lost their license from a DWI or something. And yea I know its illegal to even ride a moped if your license is suspended. When I got almost home, I saw a couple of kids with a moped, so I stopped to talk to them. The first words the one on the bike said is "Wanna race?" I turned around and pointed mine in the opposite direction and asked him where he wanted to race to. We were about 100 feet from a corner, he suggested racing to the corner about 1/4 mile after that. He said go, and I got turned around was in the lead within 200 feet. I then turned around again and headed back, he was smart enough to also give up. To bad someone didn't have a camcorder near by. This would have been the perfect video for the next DC Cycles party. Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 13:15:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA20813; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:15:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA13119; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:14:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29892; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:14:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id NAA10557; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:12:23 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D52F5FB@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Bike For Sale... Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:13:35 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain The husband of a woman I work with has a Harley he'd like to sell. Details: '81 Sportster 1200 motor fatbob tanks SS supercarbs dark blue/grey color about 36,000 miles $5800 Write me off list if you're interested. Thanks! - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 13:16:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA20838; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:16:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA13146; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:15:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29911; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:15:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id KAA18023; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id KAA03581; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:14:55 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id KAA03556; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:14:50 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD570D.AD671FD0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:14:49 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:10:35 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 14 TEXT, 51 UUENCODE X-MS-Attachment: WINMAIL.DAT 0 00-00-1980 00:00 Just saw this at www.motorcycle.com May 2, 1998. Sportfest '98 in Frederick, Maryland. Manufacturer representatives and demo rides from BMW, Buell, Ducati, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Triumph. A BattleTrax event is scheduled as well. There will also be seminars by Dyno-Jet, HyperPro and the Mid-Atlantic Road Racing Club. For more information call Mike Vantucci or Ralf Berger at 301-694-8177. 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I'd like to get $325 for it. Its a 60 gallon 6.5 hp. > > Glenn Dysart > dysart@XXXXXX > > 84 V30 Magna > > > Some recent comments about rear tire removal included ideas on inflating > > the tire. While the original authors no doubt were thinking of how to help > > others on the list, it was quite disturbing to me to read of how decidedly > > un-manly and de-evolved both solutions were prescribed. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 14:27:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA22145; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:27:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA13821; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02013; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:26:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA12286; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from BERGIE.PARAGON (bergie.erols.com [207.96.57.227]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA01850; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:26:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Bergie Frazier Jr" To: "ZX Mailing List" Cc: "DC Cycles" Subject: Parting Out Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:26:29 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd575a$be837000$378e98cf@BERGIE.PARAGON> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sold my ZX11, but still have these: > Also selling these items seperately: > As new (4 months old) CORBIN SEAT! It's a > black corbin gunfighter with removable lady attachment. > current corbin price is $ 259 + $159 for the attachment > which is what I paid (plus you normally have to wait six > weeks!) but I will sell BOTH FOR $275/obo, still in the original > box!!!! mint condition! Fit's ALL ZX11 '93-'98 blk/blk trim > > GIVI!! brand new (never used) Givi hard luggage bags > with mounting kit for ZX11 ('93-'98). Paid over > $800, selling everything for $500 or best offer. DEAL > OF A LIFETIME. Less than a year old. > > Absolutely the best! See Givi ads in any magazine > or email me and I will fax you the product brochure! > > Lockhart smoked euroscreen! ZX11 windscreeen with > 2" of extra height for better wind coverage. Used but > in decent condition. 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Asking $1100/obo > > Shoei X8-Air size: L custom painted to match factory ZX11 > black purple pearl metallic w/clear shield, great shape. $125 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 14:43:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA22463; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14706; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:42:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02568; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD5732.CF0B2F80@XXXXXX>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:40:36 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:40:35 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 19 TEXT NOoooooooooooo That's the DC Cycles Spring Fling at our house - plus we plan to practice more circles ---------- From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 1:10 PM To: 'DC Cycles' Subject: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com Just saw this at www.motorcycle.com May 2, 1998. Sportfest '98 in Frederick, Maryland. Manufacturer representatives and demo rides from BMW, Buell, Ducati, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Triumph. A BattleTrax event is scheduled as well. There will also be seminars by Dyno-Jet, HyperPro and the Mid-Atlantic Road Racing Club. For more information call Mike Vantucci or Ralf Berger at 301-694-8177. Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 15:03:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22915; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15224; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:02:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm07.itmassociates.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03317; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:02:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm04.itmassociates.com ([207.154.30.134]) by itm07.itmassociates.com (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) with SMTP id 852565D1.006E19E2; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:02:35 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980324200158.0072c23c@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: us004937@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:01:58 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Robert Space Subject: Insurance for VF500 Hey Everyone I bought Brian McCoys ailing VF500 this past weekend. And after 16 hours of open heart surgery, the transplant was not rejected and is came back to life on Sun night. I installed a motor that I built with new rings, trans bearings, and inspected and reassembled heads (Fast Lane Cycle). Anyway it runs and there are no louding clanging or crunching noises so I guess I did okay. So now the actual question, which insurance companies have people had good luck with, price wise, just liability, in this area? With a VF500? I called my agent and they quoted me $385, which I thought was too much. I'm 28 with one ticket coming off my record in May. I was expecting like half of that. I haven't taken a safety course, nor do I belong to the AMA or any other org. Which would get me 10% and 5% off respectively. So if you have any suggestions I would appreciate it. Hope to see some of you soon, its finally starting to warm up. Later Rob Space 86 VF500 (in its second life) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 15:15:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23104; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:15:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15332; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03574; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:17:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: Robert Space , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:17:16 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) I have a VF500C and my insurance for minimum coverage is $145. I use Recreational Products for insurance. I'd give you the URL but can't seem to find it. Someone on the list should have it. Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna > So now the actual question, which insurance companies have people had good > luck with, price wise, just liability, in this area? With a VF500? I > called my agent and they quoted me $385, which I thought was too much. I'm > 28 with one ticket coming off my record in May. I was expecting like half > of that. I haven't taken a safety course, nor do I belong to the AMA or any > other org. Which would get me 10% and 5% off respectively. So if you have > any suggestions I would appreciate it. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 15:27:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23313; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:27:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15417; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03874; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:25:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id PAA22960; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:25:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:24:16 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D52F608@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , Robert Space , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:25:28 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Wow!! How did you manage that, Glenn? I have my cage insured under State Farm, so I used them, can't remember exact amount, but it's somewhere around $250!! (and that was before I got my ticket - no tickets in 10 YEARS!!) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 3:17 PM > To: Robert Space; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 > > I have a VF500C and my insurance for minimum coverage is $145. I use > Recreational Products for insurance. I'd give you the URL but can't > seem to find it. Someone on the list should have it. > > Glenn Dysart > dysart@XXXXXX > > 84 V30 Magna > > > > So now the actual question, which insurance companies have people > had good > > luck with, price wise, just liability, in this area? With a VF500? > I > > called my agent and they quoted me $385, which I thought was too > much. I'm > > 28 with one ticket coming off my record in May. I was expecting > like half > > of that. I haven't taken a safety course, nor do I belong to the > AMA or any > > other org. Which would get me 10% and 5% off respectively. So if > you have > > any suggestions I would appreciate it. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 15:49:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23535; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:49:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15536; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:47:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04317; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:47:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id OAA01542; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:46:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA23180; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:46:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980324204641.SNMB27632@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:46:41 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:32 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: CC: , Subject: RE: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980324204641.SNMB27632@[166.41.242.141]> I was just going to ask if that wasn't the date. Todd I'll be there, w/my lasagna bib on! Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:40:35 -0500 Encoding: 19 TEXT NOoooooooooooo That's the DC Cycles Spring Fling at our house - plus we plan to practice more circles ---------- From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 1:10 PM To: 'DC Cycles' Subject: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com Just saw this at www.motorcycle.com May 2, 1998. Sportfest '98 in Frederick, Maryland. Manufacturer representatives and demo rides from BMW, Buell, Ducati, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Triumph. A BattleTrax event is scheduled as well. There will also be seminars by Dyno-Jet, HyperPro and the Mid-Atlantic Road Racing Club. For more information call Mike Vantucci or Ralf Berger at 301-694-8177. Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 16:04:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA23792; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA15674; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:03:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA04786; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id QAA04400; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:02:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA28195; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:02:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980324210228.SPNG27632@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:02:28 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:00 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" CC: Robert Space , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980324210228.SPNG27632@[166.41.242.141]> I use 'em too. $740/year for the ST1100 and CB750, full coverage, 12months, 100/300, and a real bad record :-) http://www.uuic.com/rpi/ Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: Robert Space , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:17:16 -0500 I have a VF500C and my insurance for minimum coverage is $145. I use Recreational Products for insurance. I'd give you the URL but can't seem to find it. Someone on the list should have it. Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna > So now the actual question, which insurance companies have people had good > luck with, price wise, just liability, in this area? With a VF500? I > called my agent and they quoted me $385, which I thought was too much. I'm > 28 with one ticket coming off my record in May. I was expecting like half > of that. I haven't taken a safety course, nor do I belong to the AMA or any > other org. Which would get me 10% and 5% off respectively. So if you have > any suggestions I would appreciate it. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 16:04:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA23795; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:04:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA15666; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:03:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA04792; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:03:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA09583; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:02:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA26382; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:02:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980324210229.SPNM27632@[166.41.242.141]>; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:02:29 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:01 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" CC: "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , Robert Space , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980324210229.SPNM27632@[166.41.242.141]> Like he said, minimum coverage. You wreck you pay to fix Wow!! How did you manage that, Glenn? I have my cage insured under State Farm, so I used them, can't remember exact amount, but it's somewhere around $250!! (and that was before I got my ticket - no tickets in 10 YEARS!!) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 3:17 PM > To: Robert Space; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 > > I have a VF500C and my insurance for minimum coverage is $145. I use > Recreational Products for insurance. I'd give you the URL but can't > seem to find it. Someone on the list should have it. > > Glenn Dysart > dysart@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 16:09:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA23858; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:09:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA15729; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm07.itmassociates.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA04916; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:08:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from itm04.itmassociates.com ([207.154.30.134]) by itm07.itmassociates.com (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) with SMTP id 852565D1.0074316D; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:09:08 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980324210830.0074d9c0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: us004937@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:08:30 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Robert Space Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 I just called Progressive. I had them in college on my old bike and they had that new TV commercial in which they said they give quotes for other companies. They quoted me $212 for one step above state minimum. I can get %10 off for AMA, and %10 for the safety course. What does it cost for either of these? I guess it would only be worth $20 each to me, right? Although I think I should take the safety course anyway as a refresher. Thanks for the replies. Later Rob At 04:00 PM 3/24/98 -0500, Todd Peer wrote: > >I use 'em too. $740/year for the ST1100 and CB750, full coverage, >12months, 100/300, and a real bad record :-) > >http://www.uuic.com/rpi/ > > >Message-ID: >From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" >To: Robert Space , dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 >Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:17:16 -0500 > >I have a VF500C and my insurance for minimum coverage is $145. I use >Recreational Products for insurance. I'd give you the URL but can't seem >to find it. Someone on the list should have it. > >Glenn Dysart >dysart@XXXXXX > >84 V30 Magna > > >> So now the actual question, which insurance companies have people had good >> luck with, price wise, just liability, in this area? With a VF500? I >> called my agent and they quoted me $385, which I thought was too much. I'm >> 28 with one ticket coming off my record in May. I was expecting like half >> of that. I haven't taken a safety course, nor do I belong to the AMA or any >> other org. Which would get me 10% and 5% off respectively. So if you have >> any suggestions I would appreciate it. >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 16:23:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA24106; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:23:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA15934; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:22:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA05239; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id QAA08779; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:14:48 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D52F60B@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Todd Peer'" , "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" Cc: Robert Space , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:16:00 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain JEEZ!! I don't even have full coverage! > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Peer [SMTP:Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 4:00 PM > To: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN > Cc: Robert Space; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 > > > I use 'em too. $740/year for the ST1100 and CB750, full coverage, > 12months, 100/300, and a real bad record :-) > > http://www.uuic.com/rpi/ > > > Message-ID: > From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" > To: Robert Space , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:17:16 -0500 > > I have a VF500C and my insurance for minimum coverage is $145. I use > Recreational Products for insurance. I'd give you the URL but can't > seem > to find it. Someone on the list should have it. > > Glenn Dysart > dysart@XXXXXX > > 84 V30 Magna > > > > So now the actual question, which insurance companies have people > had good > > luck with, price wise, just liability, in this area? With a VF500? > I > > called my agent and they quoted me $385, which I thought was too > much. I'm > > 28 with one ticket coming off my record in May. I was expecting > like half > > of that. I haven't taken a safety course, nor do I belong to the > AMA or any > > other org. Which would get me 10% and 5% off respectively. So if > you have > > any suggestions I would appreciate it. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 16:52:48 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA25073; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16408; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA06582; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id HAYPa22228; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:50:55 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23 Message-ID: <34a4350f.35182ac1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:50:55 EST To: us004937@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Insurance for VF500 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Well, here's a possibility.....I just bought an '83 VF750, and called Nationwide, who carries my car. I pay roughly $350 a year...that's liability and comprehensive. I'm 19, unmarried, and have two speeding tickets.....this is less than what Progressive wanted, even adding AMA surerider and MSF discount. You might give them a call. I go through Bob Poole in Sterling. Good luck! -Sean Jordan (Mike's kid) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 18:46:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA26796; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA17654; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA09809; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:45:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-57-251.s251.tnt2.ann.erols.com [207.172.57.251]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02669; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:45:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351845EF.DF8FD692@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:46:55 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Space CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Insurance for VF500 References: <1.5.4.32.19980324200158.0072c23c@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use state farm (Mary Hitchcock in Sterling). Full coverage, 2nd step above minimum deductibles are $250 for comp, $500 for collision $14/month = $168/year one ticket, 25, married ( getting married didn't change the rates a penny on my bike or cage.. turning 25 saved $3/month) State Farm bases coverage on displacement rather than bike type (silly of them, but I ain't gonna complain) so my GSXR750 has the same rates as a Nighthawk 750 :) Cage rate is dirt cheap too -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 18:50:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA26827; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:50:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA17679; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:49:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA09886; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id SAA12226; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:56:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:56:45 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: "Cycles, DC -- DC Cycles" Subject: GS650GL In-Reply-To: <3517E911.32BB815E@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I cranked up the new GS650 yesterday after a thorough carb cleaning (spraying cleaniner into the pilot air circuit while holding my finger over the orifice in the throat seemed to clear out the pilot jet, after mangling two of them). It ran really rough for a several minutes and only on full choke. Then it seemed to sputter a bit and I kept it revving up around 3K. Then it finally was able to run on no choke. So I decided to try it. I did a few circuits around the garage and it head enough power to be running in 3rd gear around 20mph. I consider it titleable now! The clutch cable is very tight though, you let go of the leaver and wait about 5 seconds as the clutch engages. I may try to lube the cable, but it looks like the cable may have a low friction insert. I also hope that an oil change may help as well. My light at the end of the project tunnel is visible! Soon I will be able to get my fiance` on it! After riding my GPz for two years, pull-back bars are VERY unsettling, despite that fact that it feels like a moped. -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 19:21:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA27214; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA17926; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:19:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA10485; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:19:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id TAA16385; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:26:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:26:18 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" cc: Robert Space , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Insurance for VF500 In-Reply-To: <351845EF.DF8FD692@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII But does your Oregon registration make a difference? On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) wrote: > I use state farm (Mary Hitchcock in Sterling). > Full coverage, 2nd step above minimum > deductibles are $250 for comp, $500 for collision > $14/month = $168/year > one ticket, 25, married ( getting married didn't change the rates a > penny on my bike or cage.. turning 25 saved $3/month) > > State Farm bases coverage on displacement rather than bike type (silly > of them, but I ain't gonna complain) so my GSXR750 has the same rates as > a Nighthawk 750 :) > > Cage rate is dirt cheap too > -- > _________________________________________ > Collin and Penny Fagan > LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard > (202) 366-0067 (work) > (703) 356-4279 (home) > ICQ UIN: 435732 > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ > (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) > -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 19:23:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA27253; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA17987; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:22:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA10630; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:22:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.54] (unverified [207.226.128.54]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:21:55 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Rat Wing Owner Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 19:23:36 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Today I put a deposit on a 1981 Rat Wing Interstate. This bike only has 65000 miles on it, and will be costing slightly more than a grand. (Taxes, tags, etc. included). Getting it from GRD cycles in White Plains MD. They primarily export bikes to those Europeans who still appreciate older bikes. Thanks to Richard Wood for letting me know about them. The bike is the first (second?) year of the fully faired Honda tourer, previous GL's being fitted with aftermarket Vetter fairings. It's black. Kinda. For now. The paint is in really tatty condition, and the bike has spent quite a bit of time outside or in a damp garage. But it started up and ran well. Rear brake cylinder and battery are new. All lights and the factory radio work. With any luck, it'll be running really nice with a fresh Rustoleum (or Krylon) paint job in time for the long distance ride in May. Only problem... I think my parents might want to go along, and they'll pick the Wing:( Small price to pay for working on it and storing it in their garage, I suppose. ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 20:48:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA28228; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:48:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA18362; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:46:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA12296; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-126.s126.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.126]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21570; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:46:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35186349.B3039246@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:52:09 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Morris Berman CC: Robert Space , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Insurance for VF500 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It shouldn't, because the rates quoted to me were based on residence zip code, i.e. where is the bike getting parked at night... I was really worried when I moved from Loudoun county into Fairfax county that the rates would skyrocket, but the differenc was less than $.50 (the pets are a different story though... half of my zoo is technically illegal in fairfax county... shhhh don't tell :) Collin Morris Berman wrote: > > But does your Oregon registration make a difference? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 22:37:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA29377; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA18847; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:35:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA14412; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:35:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1JCSa00801 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:35:09 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:35:09 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Need honda parts Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 I need a headlight/horn/choke switch.... for a 93 cb750 nighthawk... the highbeam switch stopped working just before winter storage, and now Im trying to tidy it up and take care of things... so.. if anyone knows of any "connections" let me know Thanks! Sean Ride Free! 93 CBR 600 (and 93 cb750) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 22:59:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA00020; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:59:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA19042; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA15473; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA01818; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:30:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:30:20 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: Robert Space cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980324210830.0074d9c0@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Robert Space wrote: > I just called Progressive. I had them in college on my old bike and they > had that new TV commercial in which they said they give quotes for other > companies. They quoted me $212 for one step above state minimum. I can get > %10 off for AMA, and %10 for the safety course. What does it cost for > either of these? I guess it would only be worth $20 each to me, right? > Although I think I should take the safety course anyway as a refresher. $50 for the MSF course - $25 a year for AMA - my AMA has given me about 20 in discounts over the last year - I suspect I might have gotten more if I knew early to ask for AMA discounts.. Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - Next? (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 23:01:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00106; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA19097; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.his.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15577; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:00:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from harris.his.com (harris.his.com [205.252.80.17]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA20755; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:00:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980324225534.008dcea0@mail.his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:55:34 -0500 To: CloudsAbv9 , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: Need honda parts In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:35 PM 3/24/98 EST, CloudsAbv9 wrote: >I need a headlight/horn/choke switch.... for a 93 cb750 nighthawk... the >highbeam switch stopped working just before winter storage, and now Im trying >to tidy it up and take care of things... so.. if anyone knows of any >"connections" let me know Thanks! High beam switch? What are the symptoms? It its just he high beam not working I would check, in senior order of magnitude, the bulb being out, fuse being cooked and lastly switch contact point being oxidized when trouble shooting. Very rarely you will have a open in the wiring harness. Its possible for the switch being bad, but H really slathers up stuff with dielectric compound. Stephen Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 23:01:39 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00111; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA19101; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from meretrix.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15582; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:00:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from kiri.torrentnet.com (kiri.meretrix.com [209.116.254.18]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA28418; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from kiri.torrentnet.com (localhost.meretrix.com [127.0.0.1]) by kiri.torrentnet.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA02551; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:00:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803250400.XAA02551@kiri.torrentnet.com> To: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" cc: DC Cycles Subject: Re: List Administrator In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:08:24 EST." Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:00:30 -0500 From: Harry Mantakos /nfs/dirty/harry >Hey Harry, on a different topic, are you EVER going to break out your >bike and going riding with the rest of the list? I would certainly like to, if only to prove I'm not automated list management software (invoked with the -surly option, presumably). I work on days that end in a 'y', though, and this had made scheduling recreational riding a bit difficult. -harry ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Human: Harry Mantakos USPS: 547 E. Gittings St. Baltimore, MD 21230 Email: harry@XXXXXX Evil Twins: harry@XXXXXX, harry@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 24 23:40:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00755; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:40:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA19365; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:37:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA16527; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.46] (unverified [207.226.128.46]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:36:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Insurance for VF500 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 23:38:06 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" , "Robert Space" cc: "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >one ticket, 25, married ( getting married didn't change the rates a >penny on my bike or cage.. turning 25 saved $3/month) Weird. On the cage, turning 25 saved me $50 a month. Saved about $3 per month on the bike. >State Farm bases coverage on displacement rather than bike type (silly >of them, but I ain't gonna complain) so my GSXR750 has the same rates as >a Nighthawk 750 :) And they want the same for my Rat Wing as they do for a CBR1100XX. Time to go shopping:) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 01:43:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA02326; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:43:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA24923; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA18209; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:42:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1WPOa07817 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:41:53 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9 Message-ID: <4f986f39.3518a733@aol.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:41:53 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Fwd: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part0_890808113_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_890808113_boundary Content-ID: <0_890808113@XXXXXX> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII --part0_890808113_boundary Content-ID: <0_890808113@XXXXXX> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: CloudsAbv9 Return-path: To: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:25:28 EST Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Anyone been to this before? Sounds like something to finally take off of work for! yea! drop me a line and let me know some info on this if you've been, and if anyone from the annapolis area is going, maybe we could ride there together. Sean Ride Free! 93 CBR 600 --part0_890808113_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 07:15:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA04890; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:15:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA00966; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:14:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA21416; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:14:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA18493; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:14:27 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:17:04 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: CKeyser Received: from 24-charlie [207.168.31.20] by dclink.com with smtp id AHBADDFB ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:16:52 -0500 From: "Ckeyser" To: "DC Motorcycle Club" Subject: Weekend ride Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:10:21 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Well you can count me in on a ride this weekend depending on the time sat. morning would be the best time for me especially if the ride starts out near Gaithersburg/Germantown up to Frederick and up to Harper's fairy. Or something along these routes, I was out yesterday riding had the day off and man I have the bug to ride. So whoever gets up a ride fill me in and If I don't hear from anyone I'm still going for a ride closer to home so if anyone is in the area of Gaithersburg/Germantown let me know if your interested. CK Weapon of choice Suzuki RF600R http://www.dclink.com/ckeyser From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 07:15:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA04895; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:15:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA00981; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA21440; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id HAA23753; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:22:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:22:32 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: "Cycles, DC -- DC Cycles" Subject: ISO Easy Inspection Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know of a shop (either MC or gas station) that does easy MD state inspections in the Silver Spring/College Park/Wheaton area? I need to get my 650 inspected and I don't want to take it to somewhere that's a stickler. Thanks, -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650L (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 07:23:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA04980; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:23:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA01357; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:22:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA21578; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:22:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A6B6E1022E; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:21:10 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980324152033.00ed5180@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:20:33 -0500 To: , tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: DC Cycles Spring Fling In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" May 2 ? Is that the date you've set? Chris Norloff *********************************************************** At 02:40 PM 3/24/98 -0500, tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX wrote: >NOoooooooooooo That's the DC Cycles Spring Fling at our house - plus we plan to practice more circles > >---------- >From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 1:10 PM >To: 'DC Cycles' >Subject: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com > >Just saw this at www.motorcycle.com > >May 2, 1998. Sportfest '98 in Frederick, Maryland. Manufacturer representatives and demo rides from BMW, Buell, > Ducati, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Triumph. A BattleTrax event is scheduled as well. There will also be seminars by > Dyno-Jet, HyperPro and the Mid-Atlantic Road Racing Club. For more information call Mike Vantucci or Ralf Berger > at 301-694-8177. > >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 08:34:27 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA05538; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:34:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03061; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA22802; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:31:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA20754 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by mscex.MSC.USCG.mil with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD57C8.827E1A60@XXXXXX>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:32:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:32:11 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm torn... On one hand there's Dale's Lasagna, on the other hand Battletrax!! For those that don't know, Battletrax is a great marketing idea from Buell. They set up a nice cone course in a large parking lot then let contestants (you and I) take solo timed runs through the course. It lets everyday folks try a bit of the racing atmosphere and at the same time gives you a great idea of just how capable a bike the Buell is (I know, Gil hates his, but I don't think he hates the way they handle) So I may just have to find a way to encounter both!!!! I have to defend my small circle title, you know :) Collin T. Fagan LTjg, USCG Staff Engineer USCG Marine Safety Center >---------- >From: CloudsAbv9[SMTP:CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 10:25 PM >To: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com > >Anyone been to this before? Sounds like something to finally take off of >work >for! yea! drop me a line and let me know some info on this if you've been, >and if anyone from the annapolis area is going, maybe we could ride there >together. > >Sean >Ride Free! >93 CBR 600 > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 08:53:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA05783; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:53:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03634; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:52:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from draco.eisi.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23188; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:52:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by draco.eisi.com; id IAA19771; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:52:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(10.3.1.4) by draco.eisi.com via smap (3.2) id xma019748; Wed, 25 Mar 98 08:52:25 -0500 Received: by hrnexch1.eisi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:53:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Whiteside, John" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:53:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" If anything VA registration should help you, since it's a pretty low-cost insurance state. (Not sure about MD.) Believe me, after living in DC, MA, NY, and CT, VA insurance doesn't bother me at all.... --John Whiteside -----Original Message----- From: Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) [SMTP:gixer@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 8:52 PM To: Morris Berman Cc: Robert Space; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Insurance for VF500 It shouldn't, because the rates quoted to me were based on residence zip code, i.e. where is the bike getting parked at night... I was really worried when I moved from Loudoun county into Fairfax county that the rates would skyrocket, but the differenc was less than $.50 (the pets are a different story though... half of my zoo is technically illegal in fairfax county... shhhh don't tell :) Collin Morris Berman wrote: > > But does your Oregon registration make a difference? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 09:04:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA05958; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:04:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03831; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:03:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23457; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from drquest.digex.net by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19267; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:03:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.17.2.31 (pix000136.staff.digex.net [206.205.168.148]) by drquest.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA03246; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:03:28 -0500 X-Mailer: InterCon tcpCONNECT4 4.0.2 (Macintosh) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9803250905.AA28377@172.17.2.31> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:05:28 -0500 From: "Matt Elliott - DIGEX" To: "Ckeyser" , "DC Motorcycle Club" Subject: Re: Weekend ride Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: Inline When you all ride to Harpers Ferry, (and decide to walk around) do you park down in town (technically against the law unless you're a citizen) or do you park in the main visitors parking lot, and take the bus down? I've parked in the MARC parking lot and gotten away with it, has anyone ever been ticketed for parking downtown?? Looking forward to a great ride. Matt > Well you can count me in on a ride this weekend depending on the time > sat. morning would be the best time for me especially if the ride > starts out near Gaithersburg/Germantown up to Frederick and up to > Harper's fairy. Or something along these routes, I was out > yesterday riding had the day off and man I have the bug to ride. > So whoever gets up a ride fill me in and If I don't hear from anyone > I'm still going for a ride closer to home so if anyone is in the area > of Gaithersburg/Germantown let me know if your interested. > > CK > > Weapon of choice > Suzuki RF600R > http://www.dclink.com/ckeyser > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 09:26:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA06222; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:26:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04209; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:25:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23952; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from erols.com (207-172-143-102.s39.as1.hgt.erols.com [207.172.143.102]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14796 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:25:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35191447.FE35C36F@erols.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:27:19 -0500 From: Darren Reply-To: dsecars@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-Cycles Subject: Weekend ride Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How far west to WV or MD will you be traveling? I live near Martinsburg and am tied up most of the weekend but maybe I can meet up for alittle while. I would also go on another weekend also. Darren From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 09:26:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA06227; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:26:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04205; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:25:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23949; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:25:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA17901; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:23:39 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D52F611@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:24:52 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Collin, do you think you can get a better time than you did on my VF 500??!! - Jeannette > They set up a nice cone course in a large parking lot then let > contestants (you and I) take solo timed runs through the course. It > lets everyday folks try a bit of the racing atmosphere and at the same > time gives you a great idea of just how capable a bike the Buell is (I > know, Gil hates his, but I don't think he hates the way they handle) > So I may just have to find a way to encounter both!!!! I have to > defend > my small circle title, you know :) > Collin T. Fagan > LTjg, USCG > Staff Engineer > USCG Marine Safety Center > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 09:45:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA06404; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:45:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04537; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:44:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24327; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from gwsmtp.nlm.nih.gov by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19625; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:44:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from NLM-Message_Server by gwsmtp.nlm.nih.gov with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:44:13 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:43:52 -0500 From: Sandy Triolo To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Weekend ride I have always parked in the parking lot in town by the train and just stuffed the bikes where they would fit, never had any problems.... sandy >>> Matt Elliott - DIGEX 03/25 9:05 AM >>> When you all ride to Harpers Ferry, (and decide to walk around) do you park down in town (technically against the law unless you're a citizen) or do you park in the main visitors parking lot, and take the bus down? I've parked in the MARC parking lot and gotten away with it, has anyone ever been ticketed for parking downtown?? Looking forward to a great ride. Matt > Well you can count me in on a ride this weekend depending on the time > sat. morning would be the best time for me especially if the ride > starts out near Gaithersburg/Germantown up to Frederick and up to > Harper's fairy. Or something along these routes, I was out > yesterday riding had the day off and man I have the bug to ride. > So whoever gets up a ride fill me in and If I don't hear from anyone > I'm still going for a ride closer to home so if anyone is in the area > of Gaithersburg/Germantown let me know if your interested. > > CK > > Weapon of choice > Suzuki RF600R > http://www.dclink.com/ckeyser > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 09:46:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA06425; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04554; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24364; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:45:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id IAA03324 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:44:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA26699 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:44:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980325144419.UAWX27632@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:44:19 -0600 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:33 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: ST1100 in all variations X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980325144419.UAWX27632@[166.41.242.141]> Hey you guys, I ride a service vehicle. Go check it out @ http://www.fremme.no/st1100/pancol.html Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 09:46:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA06426; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:46:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04556; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:45:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24363; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:45:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:39:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , Robert Space , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Insurance for VF500 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:32:19 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) You know the funny part is the price has never really seemed to change with them for the 10 years I've had them except for going down. I started with them when I was 18 (on the same bike) with about 3 or 4 tickets and it was $225. It bottomed out at $125 about 4 or 5 years ago and has slowly increased to $145. Last year no increase. It never mentions anything on the policy about getting tickets either. I wonder if they ever check? As for State Farm they were the cheapest (at least on my cages, I haven't done anymore shopping for the bike). The bad news with State Farm is don't expect to get away with out of state tickets with them. When I switched to SF I had gotten a ticket in FL which never showed up on my VA license. Two weeks after I joined SF I got a letter in the mail telling me they were dropping me. They use Equafax sp? the credit people to check driving records throughout the country and found the ticket I got in FL. Equafax was even nice enough to tell VA about it. So I had to pay another 200 a year and go with Allstate on the cages. And for Progressive, I have never had them for a bike but for cages they were very expensive. They were the reason I went to State Farm. They were TWICE the price of State Farm. Even when I went to Allstate they were still $600 more then Allstate. I doubt I will ever use them again. Glenn Dysart dysart@XXXXXX 84 V30 Magna > Wow!! How did you manage that, Glenn? I have my cage insured under > State Farm, so I used them, can't remember exact amount, but it's > somewhere around $250!! (and that was before I got my ticket - no > tickets in 10 YEARS!!) > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 09:47:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA06454; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04581; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24427; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:46:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-205.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.205]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA05982; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:47:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3519188D.B0B58B82@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:45:34 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" CC: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D52F611@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Collin I recomend you go to BattleTrax, I think your title on the small circles is fairly safe. You really shouldn't miss the lasagna though, so you still need to come to the Spring Fling. Leon. O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > Collin, do you think you can get a better time than you did on my VF > 500??!! > > - Jeannette > > > They set up a nice cone course in a large parking lot then let > > contestants (you and I) take solo timed runs through the course. It > > lets everyday folks try a bit of the racing atmosphere and at the same > > time gives you a great idea of just how capable a bike the Buell is (I > > know, Gil hates his, but I don't think he hates the way they handle) > > So I may just have to find a way to encounter both!!!! I have to > > defend > > my small circle title, you know :) > > Collin T. Fagan > > LTjg, USCG > > Staff Engineer > > USCG Marine Safety Center > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 10:16:22 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06862; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04903; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:15:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25099; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19876; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:15:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA18478 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:14:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA01223 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:14:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980325151430.KTD27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:14:30 -0600 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:59 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: "DC Motorcycle Club" Subject: Re: Weekend ride X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980325151430.KTD27160@[166.41.242.141]> When you all ride to Harpers Ferry, (and decide to walk around) do you park down in town (technically against the law unless you're a citizen) or do you park in the main visitors parking lot, and take the bus down? I've parked in the MARC parking lot and gotten away with it, has anyone ever been ticketed for parking downtown?? Looking forward to a great ride. Matt Never have parked in the Main Visitors lot. Been there a number of times, w/groups and have parked in the MARC lot w/no problems. Heck, I didn't even know it was illegal! That's it then, I'm an outlaw biker ;-) Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 10:22:09 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA06963; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:22:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04938; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:21:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25332; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:21:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19960; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:21:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20920; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:18:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35192016.6EA39E31@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:17:42 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Elliott - DIGEX CC: DC Motorcycle Club Subject: Re: Weekend ride References: <9803250905.AA28377@172.17.2.31> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The twice that I've been up there, we all parked in the MARC lot without any problems Matt Elliott - DIGEX wrote: > I've parked in the MARC parking lot and gotten away with it, has anyone ever > been ticketed for parking downtown?? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 10:35:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07165; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:35:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05059; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:34:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25539; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:33:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23009 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:33:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05699 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:33:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803251533.KAA05699@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:33:04 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Fagan, Collin LTJG" " at Mar 25, 98 08:32:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > I'm torn... On one hand there's Dale's Lasagna, on the other hand > Battletrax!! I'm even more torn. I agreed to stand up in a friend's wedding on the 2nd. But I love lasagna, and the Battletrax sounds great, and I have an exam the next Tuesday. ACK!!! Too many choices... info overload! Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 10:36:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07191; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:36:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05068; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:35:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25656; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:35:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from drquest.digex.net by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20091; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:35:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.17.2.31 (pix000136.staff.digex.net [206.205.168.148]) by drquest.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA03828; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:35:04 -0500 X-Mailer: InterCon tcpCONNECT4 4.0.2 (Macintosh) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9803251037.AA06427@172.17.2.31> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:37:06 -0500 From: "Matt Elliott - DIGEX" To: Todd Peer , "DC Motorcycle Club" Subject: Re: Weekend ride Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: Inline Alrighty then, MARC it is! I just remember signs that say "no parking" unless you live there, but who wants to park the bike and ride a bus down through town, how boooring. Definately looking forward to going there Saturday! It's time to put some good mileage on the bike and get it breathing some fresh air! Matt 95 Nighthawk On a different thread, what's a good rider to passenger intercom system (either wires or wireless) Something that works well, but doesn't cost a grand to get it done. Where's the best place to get one? TIA. > When you all ride to Harpers Ferry, (and decide to walk around) do > you park down in town (technically against the law unless you're a > citizen) or do you park in the main visitors parking lot, and take the > bus down? > > I've parked in the MARC parking lot and gotten away with it, has > anyone ever been ticketed for parking downtown?? > > Looking forward to a great ride. > > Matt > > Never have parked in the Main Visitors lot. Been there a number > of times, w/groups and have parked in the MARC lot w/no problems. > > Heck, I didn't even know it was illegal! That's it then, I'm > an outlaw biker ;-) > > Todd > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 10:49:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07518; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:49:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05211; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:48:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26177; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:48:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA06799 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:47:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA31000 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:47:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980325154756.ZVPC4928@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:47:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:46 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: Saturday Ride...Tom Gimer X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980325154756.ZVPC4928@[166.41.242.141]> Tom, Since you started this thread, maybe you can suggest where everyone should meet. Seems like everyone wants to do Saturday, in MD heading west to HF. I think the only thing left to do is say where and when to meet. Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 11:15:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08213; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:15:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA05427; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:14:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from emshqs2.ncr.disa.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27273; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:14:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803251614.LAA27273@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: by emshqs2.ncr.disa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:14:12 -0500 From: "Mersch, Tom" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Weekend Ride -- Nitty Gritty, Anyone? Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:08:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain I'm assuming the VA folks might meet somewhere before the trek into the frozen north of MD. That notwithstanding, how about if we all meet somewhere like the MARC station at Point of Rocks, say about 10:30-11:00? tom mersch From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 11:35:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08774; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:35:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA05600; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28030; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:34:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD57E1.A93CE3C0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:32:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: DC Cycles Spring Fling Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:32:13 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 42 TEXT Yes. ---------- From: Chris Norloff[SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 3:20 PM To: Horstman, Tracy L @ MAN; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: DC Cycles Spring Fling May 2 ? Is that the date you've set? Chris Norloff *********************************************************** At 02:40 PM 3/24/98 -0500, tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX wrote: >NOoooooooooooo That's the DC Cycles Spring Fling at our house - plus we plan to practice more circles > >---------- >From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 1:10 PM >To: 'DC Cycles' >Subject: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com > >Just saw this at www.motorcycle.com > >May 2, 1998. Sportfest '98 in Frederick, Maryland. Manufacturer representatives and demo rides from BMW, Buell, > Ducati, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Triumph. A BattleTrax event is scheduled as well. There will also be seminars by > Dyno-Jet, HyperPro and the Mid-Atlantic Road Racing Club. For more information call Mike Vantucci or Ralf Berger > at 301-694-8177. > >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 11:58:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA09057; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:58:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA05752; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:57:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28789; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:57:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA08911; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:56:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA21889; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:56:31 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id IAA21875; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:56:27 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD57CB.E4EF7D80@XXXXXX>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:56:26 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: DC Cycles Spring Fling/SpringFest in Frederick Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 08:52:13 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 57 TEXT I called the sponsor of the Springfest '98 and the hours are 9 am to 6 pm. BattleTrax will be in 2 sessions, morning and afternoon, and should conclude by 5pm. Dale, Tracy: have you decided on the time for DC Cycles party? Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC direct 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * Main 202-223-9222 >-----Original Message----- >From: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX [SMTP:tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 8:32 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; cnorloff@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: DC Cycles Spring Fling > >Yes. > >---------- >From: Chris Norloff[SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 3:20 PM >To: Horstman, Tracy L @ MAN; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: DC Cycles Spring Fling > >May 2 ? Is that the date you've set? > >Chris Norloff > >*********************************************************** >At 02:40 PM 3/24/98 -0500, tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX wrote: >>NOoooooooooooo That's the DC Cycles Spring Fling at our house - plus >we plan to practice more circles >> >>---------- >>From: Viteri, Ursulina[SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 1998 1:10 PM >>To: 'DC Cycles' >>Subject: Sportfest '98 c/o motorcycle.com >> >>Just saw this at www.motorcycle.com >> >>May 2, 1998. Sportfest '98 in Frederick, Maryland. Manufacturer >representatives and demo rides from BMW, Buell, >> Ducati, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Triumph. A BattleTrax event is >scheduled as well. There will also be seminars by >> Dyno-Jet, HyperPro and the Mid-Atlantic Road Racing Club. For more >information call Mike Vantucci or Ralf Berger >> at 301-694-8177 - 0 for operator. >> >>Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >>202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * PCS phone 703-624-1303 >> >> >> >> > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 12:28:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA09539; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:28:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06026; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:26:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from DONALD.CDER.FDA.GOV by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA29868; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:26:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr.cder.fda.gov by fdaserv.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.1-8 #21467) id <01IV2TFN40IO8ZI16T@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:53:00 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:45:51 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta DONALD; Relayed; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:45:51 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:36:59 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy 301-594-5672 FAX 301-480-8329 Subject: Battletrax: autocross style motorcycle racing? To: dc-cycles Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:46:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal UA-content-id: E1336ZXHQDZ1DZ X400-MTS-identifier: [;15549052308991/2462664@FDACD] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 >For those that don't know, Battletrax is a great marketing idea >from Buell. They set up a nice cone course in a large parking lot >then let contestants (you and I) take solo timed runs through the >course. It lets everyday folks try a bit of the racing atmosphere >and at the same time gives you a great idea of just how capable a >bike the Buell is (I know, Gil hates his, but I don't think he hates >the way they handle) This sounds like autocross, which is time trial cage racing on large parking lots or airstrips marked with cones. I'm going to be buying my next cage with autocross in mind. From what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong, Jay) most people never get out of 2nd gear (and there are some seriously set-up cars). That sounds cool to me. I realize that in a cage if you screw up in an autocross event the most likely major damage you'll do will be to a cone while in a similar type event on a bike you could really hurt yourself and/or your bike. Still, it would be less dangerous than real road racing with other competitors (and other classes - i.e., experts and novices on the track at the same time). There are more than a thousand autocross events in the US each year and I'd expect a similar motorcycle thing to be pretty popular as well (I know I'd want to do it). Anyone want to volunteer to start something like this? :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 13:35:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10997; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:35:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA06484; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:34:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02643; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:34:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10008; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:33:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35194DCA.A6133456@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:32:42 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kirk Roy 301-594-5672 FAX 301-480-8329 CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Battletrax: autocross style motorcycle racing? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's exactly waht it is... Talking to my H-D type office mate, their are very few crashes in the Battletrax events... My guess is that the most common mistake is that someone hits a corner too hot and in the course of overbraking the front, they stand up and go out the back of the corner... at most taking out a cone and getting a nice butt pucker. Most of the street crashes I've seen were due to this same reason, but the consequences are a little higher when there's a guard rail, tree, etc. at the back of the corner..then they lay the bike down and slide into the stuff... Kirk Roy 301-594-5672 FAX 301-480-8329 wrote: > I realize that in a cage if you screw up in an autocross event the most > likely major damage you'll do will be to a cone while in a similar type > event on a bike you could really hurt yourself and/or your bike. Still, > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 13:41:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA11111; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:41:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA06596; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:40:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02820; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-218-57.pitb.grid.net [207.205.218.57]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA28076; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:39:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980325134145.006aa1f8@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:41:45 -0500 To: Todd Peer From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: ST1100 in all variations Cc: dc-cycles In-Reply-To: <19980325144419.UAWX27632@[166.41.242.141]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:33 AM 3/25/98 -0500, Todd Peer wrote: >Go check it out @ > http://www.fremme.no/st1100/pancol.html Todd, Those are great shots. Having spent a fair amount of time abroad, I was always impressed how other countries make great use of motorcycles. These are great examples. Someday we'll catch up. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 14:20:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA12294; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:20:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA07839; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:18:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04715; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:18:37 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA00143 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:19:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199803251919.AA00143@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:19:07 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:19:07 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:19:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:17:48 -0500 Subject: Herndon Police Poker Run To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <19980325144419.UAWX27632@[166.41.242.141]> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME I'm goin! Anyone else planning on attending? Was lots 'o fun, just be part of the earlier groups since the late groups tend to arrive at the police station too late to get some of food. cheers, -aki Herndon Police Poker Run for '98 Announced The Herndon Police Department is holding their annual poker run on June 6th. Registration will be from 8:30am to 11am. Included in the registration fee of $15 are lunch, beverages, one door prize, and a poker hand. It looks likely that Lone Star Steakhouse will be on hand again for fixing up great burgers, but if they don't come then the Tortilla Factory will provide the meal. The last bike will return by 3pm. Trophies will be awarded to the highest hands in the three catagories of rider, co-rider, and biggest club. Proceeds from the event will be split between the Hospice of Northern Virginia and the Fraternal Order of Police. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 14:26:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA12396; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:26:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA08207; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:24:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04867; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:24:48 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA00449 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:25:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199803251925.AA00449@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:25:19 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:25:19 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:25:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:23:53 -0500 Subject: NOVA MGR Invitation and Update (3/24/98) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_0_MIME_Boundary_17498.35195a1e.wtprod2.cgin.us-md.citicorp.com" ------ =_0_MIME_Boundary_17498.35195a1e.wtprod2.cgin.us-md.citicorp.com For those of you not subscribing to the attached, I strongly recommend subscribing. It's a great way of finding out what's going on in the D.C. area on local rides, poker runs and just about anything else pertaining to motorcycles. enjoy, -aki ------ =_0_MIME_Boundary_17498.35195a1e.wtprod2.cgin.us-md.citicorp.com Content-Type: message/rfc822 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:25:18 -0500 From: Novamgr@XXXXXX Subject: NOVA MGR Invitation and Update (3/24/98) Message-Id: <1d6e5cb4.351866de@aol.com> Dear fellow motorcycle enthusiasts, WHATS IN THIS E-MAIL? Here are the different topics you will find in this Email: Invitation to Roadracing Preparation Seminar on 3/28/98 Bulletin Board (Updated 3/24/98) If you are new to receiving these e-mails About the group rides For more information about the group rides How to stop receiving our announcements INVITATION TO ROADRACING PREPARATION SEMINAR ON 3/28/98 Following on the heels of the big sale and auction, Steve Harrison of Coleman PowerSport and his brother are holding a ROADRACING PREPARATON SEMINAR on Saturday March 28th at 5pm (store closing time). The seminar will be held at the Falls Church Coleman PowerSport store ONLY. For more information, call Steve Harrison at 703-237-3400. BULLETIN BOARD (Updated 3/24/98) Great Smoky Mountains NP and Honda Hoot Trip: I have the details for the next HONDA HOOT event in June. We will be taking the whole week to venture down to the Smoky Mountains via the Blue Ridge Parkway. The plan is to explore the Smokies the first half of the week before the Hoot begins, then take part in the rally and events. Email me if you want more details or if you are interested. If you are going, you should register for your favorite activities soon. Some of the Hoot activities, such as the experienced rider course, fill up quickly. That particular activity is just $30 (once you've paid your registration fee for the Hoot). Other activites at the Hoot include a Cycle World Magazine editors' ride, a tour of Chimney Rock (where part of "Last of the Mohicans" was filmed), an old fashioned train ride (where the train wreck in "The Fugitive" was filmed - the wreck is still there!), a poker run, a sport bike ride, white-water rafting, various parties, and much more. I hope to have many of you along for the ride. It will be fun. Additionally, I am looking into organizing an additional event or two for folks who come on the NOVA MGR ride to the Hoot. How does a hot air baloon ride sound? Send a message to Novamgr@XXXXXX for more information. =================================== Herndon Police Poker Run for '98 Announced The Herndon Police Department is holding their annual poker run on June 6th. Registration will be from 8:30am to 11am. Included in the registration fee of $15 are lunch, beverages, one door prize, and a poker hand. It looks likely that Lone Star Steakhouse will be on hand again for fixing up great burgers, but if they don't come then the Tortilla Factory will provide the meal. The last bike will return by 3pm. Trophies will be awarded to the highest hands in the three catagories of rider, co-rider, and biggest club. Proceeds from the event will be split between the Hospice of Northern Virginia and the Fraternal Order of Police. =================================== Leesburg Volunteer Fire Company's 1998 Harley-Davidson FatBoy raffle: Want to win a pearl blue 1998 FLSTF Harley-Davidson FatBoy? Enter the raffle to win. The cost for tickets are as follows: 1 ticket for $ 5.00 3 tickets for $10.00 5 tickets for $15.00 10 tickets for $20.00 (best buy) The drawing will be held on August 30, 1998, in front of Payne's Biker Cafe at 1:00pm during the MDA Wrap-up bike run. If you are interested in getting raffle tickets then send in the following information: Name Address City/State/Zip Phone Number (including area code) Number of tickets requested. Mail this information and with your check payable to: LEESBURG VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANY Attn: Keith - Harley Raffle 215 Loudoun Street, SW Leesburg, VA 20175 They will mail you back the tickets and place the ticket stubs with your name into the ticket hopper. If you have any questions, please contact the Leesburg Volunteer Fire Company at (703) 777-1343 or send an e-mail to Keith Veler at F1REDUDE@XXXXXX. The 1997 FatBoy winner was Larry Byers of Victor Iowa. Larry found the information on www.harleybar.com while surfing the web. More information at http://members.aol.com/f1redude. =================================== Americade Web Page: By request, from more than a couple of you, here is how to obtain information on the Americade rally. They have a web site at http://tourexpo.com. If anyone wishes to organize a ride to the rally, let me know and I will post information for you. This just in - jockodc@XXXXXX is organizing a ride to Americade for three days. Email jockodc@XXXXXX or call 202-588-1947 if interested. =================================== Harley-Davidson for Sale: 1957 Straight Leg Frame, Wideglide Front Forks, 1960 Pan Engine (Stroked to 88.5 cubic inches), 12 Volt Singlefire Ignition, SU "Eliminator" Carburetor. Asking $10,500. Call Bill at 804-737-6146 or send Email to Cycle503@XXXXXX =================================== Add to the Calendar: When you check out the web site, you will see many events on the calendar for all of '98. There are still many more events to be added as soon as I get exact dates. Please submit any motorcycle-related activities to me so I may add them to the calendar. =================================== Add to the Bulletin Board The postings to the Bulletin Board are increasing. That's welcome news. Do you have any events or information you would like to pass on to other riding enthusiasts? Write your announcement and send it to Novamgr@XXXXXX. Please allow one to two weeks for your message to be sent to the group. The Bulletin Board will soon be posted on the new web site, thus making these Emails much shorter. IF YOU ARE NEW TO RECEIVING THESE E-MAILS Welcome to those of you who recently joined our mailing list of ride notifications. I'm sure you will enjoy the activities we have planned throughout the year. We have approximately four hundred email addresses on the group's invitation list. Recent postings at local motorcycle shops will hopefully bring in more folks who just love to ride. We are not a club and we don't collect dues. We do ride with clubs sometimes and they may have a small fee for their events, but I will always inform you in advance of what your expenses may be on our rides if anything other than fuel. These emails usually contain both an invitation to the next scheduled activity plus general announcements and the like. Please feel free to read the entire email and send comments to me. ABOUT THE GROUP RIDES All rides take place regardless of temperature, but if it is raining at the scheduled start of the ride then it is canceled. A mere forecast for rain doesnt stop the ride, so bring rain gear in case the weather forecaster is actually correct. The pace of the group is usually dictated by who shows up. In other words, if the majority of bikes are cruiser and touring style, we will most likely be riding near the speed limit. If we have wide variety of bikes for the ride, we may break into two or more groups with the faster riders leaving first. On average, we usually have less than ten bikes on any given ride, so maneuvering around as a group is manageable. If the pace of a particular ride is too slow for you, feel free to go on ahead and wait for us at the next stop. If the pace of the group is too fast, we usually stop or slow before any major changes in direction to allow for the rear to catch up. Whatever the case may be, please dont try to keep up with a particularly fast rider if you are not comfortable with that pace. We wont leave you behind to get lost. All riders should feel welcome to attend any of our rides. The point of these group rides is to have stress-free day trips with others who arent committed to anything but enjoying their motorcycles. Hopefully, we will not have any politics or bias on the rides. Just come to ride and have fun, not to criticize. Please feel free to forward this email on to anyone who might want these announcements. Such persons dont even need email if you want to print it out for them. If you have received this email from someone else and you want to be on the direct list yourself, send an email to Novamgr@XXXXXX. FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE GROUP RIDES Check out the web site at http://members.aol.com/AWheat/nova_mgr.html for more information on the group rides. You'll find a calendar of upcoming rides as well as links to other motorcycle sites. HOW TO STOP RECEIVING OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS If you prefer not to receive future announcements and invitations, please send a message to Novamgr@XXXXXX. THATS ALL FOR NOW I hope to see you on one of the upcoming rides. Thanks, Alan R. Wheat Send email to: Novamgr@XXXXXX Group rides web site: http://members.aol.com/AWheat/nova_mgr.html Apparently-To: -- ------ =_0_MIME_Boundary_17498.35195a1e.wtprod2.cgin.us-md.citicorp.com-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 14:35:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA12613; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA08623; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:34:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05329; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id LAA20781; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:33:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id LAA05487; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:33:49 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id LAA05482; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:33:48 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD57E1.DFF2EEA0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:33:47 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'aki.damme@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Herndon Police Poker Run Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:29:37 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 38 TEXT Yeah, I'm interested in going. I've never been on a poker run and it sounds like fun. Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC direct 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * Main 202-223-9222 >-----Original Message----- >From: aki.damme@XXXXXX [SMTP:aki.damme@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 11:18 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Herndon Police Poker Run > > >I'm goin! Anyone else planning on attending? Was lots 'o fun, just be >part of the earlier groups since the late groups tend to arrive at the >police station too late to get some of food. > >cheers, >-aki > > > Herndon Police Poker Run for '98 Announced > The Herndon Police Department is holding their annual poker run on June >6th. > Registration will be from 8:30am to 11am. Included in the registration fee >of > $15 are lunch, beverages, one door prize, and a poker hand. It looks >likely > that Lone Star Steakhouse will be on hand again for fixing up great >burgers, > but if they don't come then the Tortilla Factory will provide the meal. >The > last bike will return by 3pm. Trophies will be awarded to the highest >hands > in the three catagories of rider, co-rider, and biggest club. Proceeds >from > the event will be split between the Hospice of Northern Virginia and the > Fraternal Order of Police. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 15:03:46 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA13055; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA09227; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:01:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06150; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-205.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.205]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA17012; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:03:07 -0500 Message-ID: <35196274.DD17F7CA@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:00:52 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aki.damme@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Herndon Police Poker Run References: <199803251919.AA00143@egate2.citicorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gotta answer like Tracy did yesterday on this one. Noooooo! That's the weekend of the Capitol 1000. I'll be out riding. http://www.cap1000.org - still 5 places open. 'course if you ride the Herndon Police Poker Run, you can still see the finish of the Cap1000 the next day. Leon. I just thought of a cruel joke, what if one of the bonus stops for the Cap1000 is the Herndon Police Poker Run (please don't mention that to Larry Fears) aki.damme@XXXXXX wrote: > I'm goin! Anyone else planning on attending? Was lots 'o fun, just be > part of the earlier groups since the late groups tend to arrive at the > police station too late to get some of food. > > cheers, > -aki > > > Herndon Police Poker Run for '98 Announced > The Herndon Police Department is holding their annual poker run on June 6th. > Registration will be from 8:30am to 11am. Included in the registration fee of > $15 are lunch, beverages, one door prize, and a poker hand. It looks likely > that Lone Star Steakhouse will be on hand again for fixing up great burgers, > but if they don't come then the Tortilla Factory will provide the meal. The > last bike will return by 3pm. Trophies will be awarded to the highest hands > in the three catagories of rider, co-rider, and biggest club. Proceeds from > the event will be split between the Hospice of Northern Virginia and the > Fraternal Order of Police. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 15:51:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14138; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:51:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA09714; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemini.smart.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08040; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:50:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from richard (max2p182.smart.net [206.97.127.182]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28330; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:50:02 -0500 Message-ID: <35196D41.6351@smart.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:46:57 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Gimer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Saturday Ride...Tom Gimer References: <19980325154756.ZVPC4928@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Peer wrote: > > Tom, > > Since you started this thread, maybe you can suggest where everyone > should meet. Seems like everyone wants to do Saturday, in MD heading > west to HF. > > I think the only thing left to do is say where and when to meet. How about 10:30AM at the Safeway parking lot in the Potomac Village? Take River Road toward Potomac from the Beltway....3 miles on the left. This would seem to be an excellent starting point, and not too far away for most of the Virginians....of course I'm open to other suggestions. -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 16:26:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA14939; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:26:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA10139; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:25:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09683; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1EEYa20400 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:25:02 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23 Message-ID: <72016d30.35197630@aol.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:25:02 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Saturday ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 I'm in, provided I can get home before 4:30 (No.Va), and track down the electrical problem that has given me a wonderful sculpture in place of a motorcycle. -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 16:54:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA15412; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA10662; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:52:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from red.uspis.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA10639; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:52:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by red.uspis.gov; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA05978; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:00:33 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Clements, Curtis A" To: "'Todd Peer'" , "'Thomas H. Gimer'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Saturday Ride...Tom Gimer Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:53:36 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- This sound much better than Point of Rocks. I don't mind going there but I don't know if I could find it Curtis How about 10:30AM at the Safeway parking lot in the Potomac Village? Take River Road toward Potomac from the Beltway....3 miles on the left. This would seem to be an excellent starting point, and not too far away for most of the Virginians....of course I'm open to other suggestions. -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 17:16:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA15882; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:16:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10933; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:14:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailprime.tidalwave.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA11423; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:14:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailprime.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 191; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:13:41 -0500 Message-ID: <351981C8.CDB79F0C@tidalwave.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:14:32 -0500 From: "horkster" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles List , Chris Norloff , Jim Furlong , Monguire Subject: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Norloff, asked: > > May 2 ? Is that the date you've set? > -- Yes, Everyone, mark your calendars now! :-) Saturday, May 2nd, we will be having the DC Cycles Spring Fling Party/GetTogether/Cookout at our house. This will be a chance for everyone to get away from their keyboards and get together for some good food and great times! Ride your bikes so we can really frighten my neighbors, too! A good many of us met at Todd's house last fall, and even more of us have met on some of the group rides scheduled, (and none of us has met our great list owner, Harry! Harry, are you gonna make this one? :-), but I'm sure there are still plenty of lurkers out there - come on out! Sunshine is a good thing! Interface with real humans for a change! Cool humans who like bikes! It has been noted that SpringFest '98 (Featuring representatives and demo rides from BMW, Buell, Ducati, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Triumph) is also scheduled for the same day in Frederick, MD. Life's full of hard choices. Don't whine. This one is easy. Do both. That Springfest thing starts at 9:00 am. You have plenty of time to get totally bored there and still make it to our place. :-) What: DC Cycles Spring Fling Date: Saturday, May 2nd When: 5:00 pm till whenever... :-) Where: The Horkster Residence 13618 Kerrydale Road, Dale City, VA 22193 Why: Food, Fun, Fraternization Who: DC Cycles Listers and their SO's. Bring children if you've got 'em, they can keep my whiny brats (Ages 7 and 2) company while we bench race! Food Provided (so far:) Horkster's World Famous Lasagna (I'll even provide a meat-free version too, but it's gonna have cheese out the wazoo!) Tracy's burgers and hot dogs on the grill Ursulina's Empanadas (spanish meat turnovers) A nice chocolate sheet cake for dessert. Beverages Provided: Soft Drinks We can take up a collection for Beer if enough folks want to, otherwise BYOB. If you plan on getting toasted, bring camping gear. We've got a nice backyard, and I don't want anyone riding away drunk! Actually the camping gear invitation extends to anyone who wants to make a night of it. You are all more than welcome to stay over. We'll squeeze you in somehow :-) Please RSVP to me at horkster@XXXXXX, so we can get a headcount of who's coming to the Party. CC the list if you wish, to give everyone an idea of who'll be there. I'll post the RSVP list in a few weeks. In your RSVP include: - Your Name - The name of any Dates/So's you might bring - The names and ages of any children you might bring, we might plan some kid activities if we get enough of the little darlings together - Make/model/year of your bike(s) (Purely optional) - The type of soda you prefer, specify diet if you want - If you drink beer and can make a donation ($5). Please indicate preferred (and hated brands), otherwise, it will be BYOB. - If you can bring a dish/snacks/appetizers and what it is..... If I can get Leon to post the coordinates for my house, those of you with a bike mounted GPS will be able to find us :-) For the rest of us low-tech'ers, I'll provide detailed directions in a few days. (And maybe we can get Louis to post them on his great web-page!) Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 18:44:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA17224; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:44:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA12792; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:43:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlt5.dlt.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA13959; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:43:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803252343.SAA13959@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: from ANITA by dlt5.dlt.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id F4V744JA; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:53:12 -0500 X-Sender: 2xracers@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:43:42 -0500 To: "horkster" From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: Re: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <351981C8.CDB79F0C@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" RSVPing! > - Your Name Anita Lauro > - The name of any Dates/So's you might bring Non-moto (yet) SO: Mark Wolven > - The names and ages of any children you might bring, we > might plan some kid activities if we get enough of > the little darlings together No human kids! Are greyhounds invited? :) > - Make/model/year of your bike(s) (Purely optional) '95 Honda Nighthawk 750 '98 Ford Ranger (rainbike) > - The type of soda you prefer, specify diet if you > want Any kind is find > - If you drink beer and can make a donation ($5). > Please indicate preferred (and hated brands), > otherwise, it will be BYOB. Assuming I ride, I won't be drinking, SO can donate $$ or BYOB. > - If you can bring a dish/snacks/appetizers and what it is..... Since SO will be driving, I volunteer to at least bring my world-famous 7-Layer Dip. It will be great to meet more list members! I'll be leaving the next morning for a week at the beach in NC, so I am doubly looking forward to the party! :) Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 19:07:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA17716; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA13066; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:06:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA14719; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:06:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-205.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.205]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA24617; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:08:07 -0500 Message-ID: <35199BE4.38BE0BFB@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:05:57 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: horkster CC: DC Cycles List , Chris Norloff , Jim Furlong , Monguire Subject: Re: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling References: <351981C8.CDB79F0C@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit According to MapsOnUs, 13618 Kerrydale Road is located at -77.34483 by 38.65675 or 38° 39.405' N, 77° 20.6898' W that ought to get you close enough to see the bikes and smell the lasagna. Detailed directions? I-95 Exit 156 to Dale Blvd/Dale City, go about 4 miles and turn left on Kerrydale. horkster wrote: > Chris Norloff, asked: > > > > May 2 ? Is that the date you've set? > What: DC Cycles Spring Fling > Date: Saturday, May 2nd > > When: 5:00 pm till whenever... :-) > Where: The Horkster Residence > 13618 Kerrydale Road, > Dale City, VA 22193 > Why: Food, Fun, Fraternization > Who: DC Cycles Listers and their SO's. Bring children if > you've got 'em, they can keep my whiny brats (Ages 7 > and 2) company while we bench race! > If I can get Leon to post the coordinates for my house, > those of you with a bike mounted GPS will be able to find us :-) > For the rest of us low-tech'ers, I'll provide detailed > directions in a few days. (And maybe we can get Louis to > post them on his great web-page!) According to MapsOnUs, 13618 Kerrydale Road is located at -77.34483 by 38.65675 or 38° 39.405' N, 77° 20.6898' W that ought to get you close enough to see the bikes and smell the lasagna. Detailed directions? I-95 Exit 156 to Dale Blvd/Dale City, go about 4 miles and turn left on Kerrydale. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 23:32:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA20567; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:32:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA14242; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:31:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemini.smart.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA19445; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:31:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from richard (max2p184.smart.net [206.97.127.184]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA12250 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:31:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3519D96B.2F95@smart.net> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:28:27 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Gimer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-Cycles Subject: Saturday morning/afternoon ride Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Assuming we agree on the Potomac Village Safeway as a starting point for Saturday's ride, I'd be happy to lead for the first part of the trip out River Road and through Seneca, Poolesville, Barnesville, Comus, etc., but it would be great if we could get some input on some _good_ Frederick County roads that would lead us up toward Harper's Ferry.... Remember, I just suggested the ride (and I don't actually have a route mapped out) so I'm kinda hoping someone will step forward with an actual plan. ;-) -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 23:38:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA20645; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA14275; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:37:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA19676; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:37:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.47] (unverified [207.226.128.47]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:36:42 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ST1100 in all variations Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 23:38:29 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Todd Peer" , "dc-cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Hey you guys, I ride a service vehicle. Go check it out @ > > http://www.fremme.no/st1100/pancol.html This is probably the same as the ad that Honda is running in the UK. Two page spread of twenty different ST1100's. Check it out in 'Bike' magazine. ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Mar 25 23:38:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA20644; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA14276; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:37:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA19678; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:37:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.47] (unverified [207.226.128.47]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:36:40 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 23:38:25 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "horkster" , "DC Cycles List" , "Chris Norloff" , "Jim Furlong" , "Monguire" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I'll be there. Possibly with Angie (aorlando@XXXXXX) in tow. Either on: BMW R850R BMW F650ST (If dad lets me;) Kawasaki Eliminator (if brother lets me) 1981 Honda Ratwing Interstate Hey, I know. I can bring the Ratwing, and everybody can help make it even rattier. Bring your old cans of krylon. But I've already got the leather grips:) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 01:19:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA21823; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:19:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA15663; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:17:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA20991; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from RyTek240@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1KPWa09116 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:16:59 -0500 (EST) From: RyTek240 Message-ID: <359c4024.3519f2e9@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 01:16:59 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: subscribe Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 58 Hello, my name is ryan I ride a kawasaki zx6. I am looking for some info and my friend gave me your e-mail address. I was hopeing you could help me out. thank you. Ryan Guenther From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 05:57:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA24104; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA16912; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:56:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA23930; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:56:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD587B.A3A23420@XXXXXX>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:54:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: subscribe Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 05:54:27 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 22 TEXT Welcome, Welcome ! I doubt I can help in anything that requires any mechanical ability but the other members of this list seem knowledgable about such things. I hope you will subscribe and stay with us - these are good folks and we have a lot of fun. Tracy ---------- From: RyTek240[SMTP:RyTek240@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 1:16 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: subscribe Hello, my name is ryan I ride a kawasaki zx6. I am looking for some info and my friend gave me your e-mail address. I was hopeing you could help me out. thank you. Ryan Guenther From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 07:07:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA24731; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:07:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA17197; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:06:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.visa.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA24437; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:06:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal.visa.com id AA01234 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:06:29 -0800 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:06:29 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: subscribe Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:09:06 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 10 TEXT >...but the other members of this list seem knowledgable about such things And if we don't have actual knowledge, we will cheerfully substitute opinions and hearsay Ask away Michael J. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 08:26:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA25335; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:26:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA18325; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA25285; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:25:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay3.server.ibm.com (relay3.server.ibm.com [9.14.2.100]) by smtp3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA07468 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:19:06 -0500 Received: from US.IBM.COM (d04lms01.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.164.193]) by relay3.server.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA58066 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:21:54 -0500 Received: by US.IBM.COM (Soft-Switch LMS 2.0) with snapi via D04AU003 id 5040100016576248; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:27:40 -0500 From: Tom Knapik To: Subject: The Power of Viruses Humor non-MC related Message-ID: <5040100016576248000002L082*@MHS> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:27:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Regards, Tom Knapik E-mail: knapik@XXXXXX Phone: (301) 803-2417, tie-262-2417 More "Goodtimes" Some more info about that mysterious 'Goodtimes' computer virus: The Goodtimes Email Virus (addendum) Goodtimes will re-write your hard drive. 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From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 08:41:02 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA25488; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:41:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19115; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:39:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA25458; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id AA55100342; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:38:29 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980326080842.00edf6e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:08:42 -0500 To: DC Cycles List From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling In-Reply-To: <351981C8.CDB79F0C@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:14 PM 3/25/98 -0500, horkster wrote: >Chris Norloff, asked: >> >> May 2 ? Is that the date you've set? > >Yes, Everyone, mark your calendars now! :-) > >Saturday, May 2nd, we will be having the >DC Cycles Spring Fling Party/GetTogether/Cookout >at our house. This will be a chance for everyone >to get away from their keyboards and get together >for some good food and great times! Will there be computers available so we can chat with each other at the party? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 08:41:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA25491; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:41:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA19117; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:39:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA25461; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:39:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id AA52100342; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:38:29 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980326081456.00f13750@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:14:56 -0500 To: "horkster" , DC Cycles List From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling In-Reply-To: <351981C8.CDB79F0C@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:14 PM 3/25/98 -0500, horkster wrote: >Saturday, May 2nd, we will be having the >DC Cycles Spring Fling Party/GetTogether/Cookout >at our house. Count me in ... that sounds like a lot of fun. I'll ask my wife and kids if they want to come, too. The kids will probably want to come (11 & 12 year old girls). They love "littler" kids, so I'm sure they'll enjoy your kids, Dale. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 09:30:08 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26166; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:30:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19951; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailprime.tidalwave.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26748; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:28:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailprime.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 401; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:27:34 -0500 Message-ID: <351A6616.AA8B4D09@tidalwave.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:28:38 -0500 From: "horkster" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Norloff CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: DC Cycles Spring Fling References: <3.0.1.32.19980326080842.00edf6e0@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Norloff asked: > > > Will there be computers available so we can chat with each other at the party? > > Chris Norloff -- Aughhh! Don't give Tracy any ideas! We've had computers networked together in our house a couple of times before! :-) Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 09:37:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26232; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:37:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20161; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:35:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailprime.tidalwave.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26927; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:35:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailprime.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 198 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:34:21 -0500 Message-ID: <351A67AA.8FC3226D@tidalwave.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:35:22 -0500 From: "horkster" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: ST1100 in all variations References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Peer wrote: > > >Hey you guys, I ride a service vehicle. Go check it out @ > > > > http://www.fremme.no/st1100/pancol.html Imagine getting paid to ride an ST as your 'work vehicle'! I can see the job interview now: Interviewer: "Dale, we want to pay you to ride around all day on an ST1100." Me, after about 2.3 nanoseconds of deliberation: "Uhhh, Okay!" :-) Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 09:59:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26466; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:59:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA20980; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:58:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27452; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:57:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id GAA10499; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:57:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id GAA03589; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:57:24 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id GAA03580; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:57:23 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD5884.6CB301C0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:57:21 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'horkster'" , "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: ST1100 in all variations Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:53:12 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 31 TEXT And don't forget the cute uniform you'd get to wear! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC direct 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * Main 202-223-9222 >-----Original Message----- >From: horkster [SMTP:horkster@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 6:35 AM >To: DC Cycles List >Subject: Re: ST1100 in all variations > >Todd Peer wrote: >> >> >Hey you guys, I ride a service vehicle. Go check it out @ >> > >> > http://www.fremme.no/st1100/pancol.html > >Imagine getting paid to ride an ST as your 'work vehicle'! >I can see the job interview now: > >Interviewer: "Dale, we want to pay you to ride around all > day on an ST1100." >Me, after about 2.3 nanoseconds of deliberation: "Uhhh, Okay!" > >:-) > >Dale Horstman (the Horkster) >horkster@XXXXXX > >1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD >1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 10:17:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26624; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:17:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21488; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:16:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27983; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:16:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA19847; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:15:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA12243; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980326151513.ITEL4928@[166.41.242.141]>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:15:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:02 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: "horkster" CC: DC Cycles List , Jim Furlong Subject: Re: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980326151513.ITEL4928@[166.41.242.141]> Dale and Tracy, I'll be there. Let me think about what to bring for now. - Your Name Todd Peer - The name of any Dates/So's you might bring Hmm, let's wait and see - The names and ages of any children you might bring, we might plan some kid activities if we get enough of the little darlings together None that I'll openly admit to. - Make/model/year of your bike(s) (Purely optional) Honda ST1100 1991 - The type of soda you prefer, specify diet if you want Anything Diet, coke, pepsi, dr pepper, sprite - If you drink beer and can make a donation ($5). Please indicate preferred (and hated brands), otherwise, it will be BYOB. 'drather byob - If you can bring a dish/snacks/appetizers and what it is..... TBD If I can get Leon to post the coordinates for my house, those of you with a bike mounted GPS will be able to find us :-) Coordinates: N38° 39.457', W77° 20.626' For the rest of us low-tech'ers, I'll provide detailed directions in a few days. (And maybe we can get Louis to post them on his great web-page!) I'm working on Map-n-Go to draw them from 95. Right now the application wants to get on route 1 to smoketown road. Is there an exit from 95 to smoketown road? I'll send them over to Louis in HTML format when I'm done. Todd From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 10:18:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26640; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21499; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:17:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28002; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29628; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:17:14 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:19:52 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: CKeyser Received: from 24-charlie [207.168.31.35] by dclink.com with smtp id AKBDCDBA ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:19:34 -0500 From: "Ckeyser" To: "DC Motorcycle Club" Subject: ST1100 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:13:02 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Imagine getting paid to ride an ST as your 'work vehicle'! I can see the job interview now: Interviewer: "Dale, we want to pay you to ride around all day on an ST1100." Me, after about 2.3 nanoseconds of deliberation: "Uhhh, Okay!" <><><><>><><><<><><><><><><><><>< I think I would show up for the interview with leathers on and my helmet and gloves in hand, Or do you think that would be to sudden. I think being paid to ride motorcycle for any job would be a great job. just my interview opinion. Charlie Weapon of choice Suzuki RF600R http://www.dclink.com/ckeyser From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 10:19:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26658; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21541; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:18:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28023; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD58A0.50319400@XXXXXX>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:16:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Cc: Subject: RE: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:16:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 35 TEXT That can be arranged for a nominal fee of course. I can get my hands on some real screamin' 286's - I have the networks cards already - is DOS good for you? :-) ---------- From: Chris Norloff[SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 8:08 AM To: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling At 05:14 PM 3/25/98 -0500, horkster wrote: >Chris Norloff, asked: >> >> May 2 ? Is that the date you've set? > >Yes, Everyone, mark your calendars now! :-) > >Saturday, May 2nd, we will be having the >DC Cycles Spring Fling Party/GetTogether/Cookout >at our house. This will be a chance for everyone >to get away from their keyboards and get together >for some good food and great times! Will there be computers available so we can chat with each other at the party? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 10:22:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26704; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:22:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21599; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:21:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28205; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:21:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29645; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:20:59 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:23:36 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: CKeyser Received: from 24-charlie [207.168.31.35] by dclink.com with smtp id AKBHBBBM ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:23:16 -0500 From: "Ckeyser" To: "DC Motorcycle Club" Subject: Welcome Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:16:44 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Hello, my name is ryan I ride a kawasaki zx6. I am looking for some info and my friend gave me your e-mail address. I was hopeing you could help me out. thank you. Ryan Guenther <><><><><><><>><<><><><><>><><> Well welcome to the list I hope that you find it enjoyable I know I have had in the past and now that I'm back I find it a great place to get good information on what we all like and that's Motorcycles. So ride free and may your days be filled with great riding weather. Charlie Weapon of choice Suzuki RF600R http://www.dclink.com/ckeyser From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 10:32:00 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26844; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:31:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21794; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28452; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA27652; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:30:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA25445; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:30:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980326153015.IYWT4928@[166.41.242.141]>; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:30:15 -0500 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:17 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: George Howell CC: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: ST1100 in all variations X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980326153015.IYWT4928@[166.41.242.141]> It is. Kerry Walsh is the guy who scanned them in. He lives in the UK. T >Hey you guys, I ride a service vehicle. Go check it out @ > > http://www.fremme.no/st1100/pancol.html This is probably the same as the ad that Honda is running in the UK. Two page spread of twenty different ST1100's. Check it out in 'Bike' magazine. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 11:04:46 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27480; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:04:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA22242; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:03:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29476; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:03:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id AC2B4E07A0; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:02:51 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980326110003.00ec1240@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:00:03 -0500 To: "'DC Cycles List'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: ST1100 in all variations In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reminds me of one of my all-time favorite cartoons - a guy is wearing a giant chicken costume - head, 3-toed feet, wings on his arms. He's standing next to a motorcycle with a large trunk labeled "Delivery." The guy in the chicken suit is taking to another fellow. The caption reads "Yeah, I feel kind of silly, but at least I get to ride!" Seeking investors for "Todd's Chicken Delivery", Chris Norloff ************************************************ At 06:53 AM 3/26/98 -0800, Viteri, Ursulina wrote: >And don't forget the cute uniform you'd get to wear! > >Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC >direct 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * Main 202-223-9222 > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: horkster [SMTP:horkster@XXXXXX] >>Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 6:35 AM >>To: DC Cycles List >>Subject: Re: ST1100 in all variations >> >>Todd Peer wrote: >>> >>> >Hey you guys, I ride a service vehicle. Go check it out @ >>> > >>> > http://www.fremme.no/st1100/pancol.html >> >>Imagine getting paid to ride an ST as your 'work vehicle'! >>I can see the job interview now: >> >>Interviewer: "Dale, we want to pay you to ride around all >> day on an ST1100." >>Me, after about 2.3 nanoseconds of deliberation: "Uhhh, Okay!" >> >>:-) >> >>Dale Horstman (the Horkster) >>horkster@XXXXXX >> >>1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD >>1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 11:04:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27485; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA22238; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:03:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29467; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:03:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id AC284E07A0; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:02:51 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980326110131.00f24300@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:01:31 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling Cc: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" N o I t h i n k t h a t w o u l d b e t o o s l o w. :-) Chris At 10:16 AM 3/26/98 -0500, tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX wrote: >That can be arranged for a nominal fee of course. I can get my hands on >some real screamin' 286's - I have the networks cards already - is DOS good >for you? :-) > >---------- >From: Chris Norloff[SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 8:08 AM >To: DC Cycles List >Subject: Re: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling > >At 05:14 PM 3/25/98 -0500, horkster wrote: >>Chris Norloff, asked: >>> >>> May 2 ? Is that the date you've set? >> >>Yes, Everyone, mark your calendars now! :-) >> >>Saturday, May 2nd, we will be having the >>DC Cycles Spring Fling Party/GetTogether/Cookout >>at our house. This will be a chance for everyone >>to get away from their keyboards and get together >>for some good food and great times! > > >Will there be computers available so we can chat with each other at the >party? > >Chris Norloff > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 11:22:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27864; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:22:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA22411; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29953; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-205.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.205]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA15057; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:23:22 -0500 Message-ID: <351A8073.B3AA5A1A@illuminet.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:21:07 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Norloff , dc-cycles Subject: Re: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling References: <3.0.1.32.19980326110131.00f24300@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Netware. Only 40 chars per msg. Bt response time ws gd. DOS=Fast Windows=S L O W Leon. Chris Norloff wrote: > > N o > I > t h i n k > t h a t > w o u l d > b e > t o o > s l o w. > > :-) > Chris > > At 10:16 AM 3/26/98 -0500, tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX wrote: > >That can be arranged for a nominal fee of course. I can get my hands on > >some real screamin' 286's - I have the networks cards already - is DOS good > >for you? :-) > > > >---------- > >From: Chris Norloff[SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 8:08 AM > >To: DC Cycles List > >Subject: Re: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling > > > >At 05:14 PM 3/25/98 -0500, horkster wrote: > >>Chris Norloff, asked: > >>> > >>> May 2 ? Is that the date you've set? > >> > >>Yes, Everyone, mark your calendars now! :-) > >> > >>Saturday, May 2nd, we will be having the > >>DC Cycles Spring Fling Party/GetTogether/Cookout > >>at our house. This will be a chance for everyone > >>to get away from their keyboards and get together > >>for some good food and great times! > > > > > >Will there be computers available so we can chat with each other at the > >party? > > > >Chris Norloff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 12:00:31 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA28419; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:00:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA23272; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01460; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:58:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28517 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:58:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <351A88E6.E845E84B@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:57:10 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: DC Cycles Spring Fling References: <3.0.1.32.19980326080842.00edf6e0@mail.toward.com> <351A6616.AA8B4D09@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey.. then we could load SUBSPACE on a few of them and have a large dc-cycles contingency kicking A#$ against all the other folks logged into the game :) horkster wrote: > Aughhh! Don't give Tracy any ideas! We've had computers > networked together in our house a couple of times before! :-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 12:37:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA28868; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:37:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA23932; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02232; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:36:16 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:38:54 -0500 Received: from WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL [160.151.107.198] by dclink.com with smtp id AMCGCDGC ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:38:38 -0500 Reply-To: "Jay" From: "Jay" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Spring Fling Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:41:14 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd58de$5fc26000$LocalHost@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Can someone resend me the Spring Fling message? I'm interested, but I lost the original. My pinky finger is hell on the delete button! Later, Jay http://www.dclink.com/jaynik/index.htm Bodybuilding: The Right Way! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 13:41:33 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29802; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24916; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:40:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04190; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:40:27 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:43:04 -0500 Received: from WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL [160.151.107.198] by dclink.com with smtp id ANCKDEEK ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:42:56 -0500 Reply-To: "Jay" From: "Jay" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" , Subject: Re: Spring Fling Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:45:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd58e7$582d5ee0$LocalHost@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Dale, Thanks. Hopefully it works out and I'll see you all! Thanks for the open invitation. Jay -----Original Message----- From: horkster@XXXXXX To: Jaynik Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 1:32 PM Subject: Re: Spring Fling > >Jay wrote: >> >> Can someone resend me the Spring Fling message? I'm interested, but I lost >> the original. My pinky finger is hell on the delete button! >> >> >-- > >Jay, > >Here's the original message: > >horkster wrote: >> >> Chris Norloff, asked: >> > >> > May 2 ? Is that the date you've set? >> > >> >> -- >> Yes, Everyone, mark your calendars now! :-) >> >> Saturday, May 2nd, we will be having the >> DC Cycles Spring Fling Party/GetTogether/Cookout >> at our house. This will be a chance for everyone >> to get away from their keyboards and get together >> for some good food and great times! Ride your bikes >> so we can really frighten my neighbors, too! A good many >> of us met at Todd's house last fall, and even more >> of us have met on some of the group rides scheduled, >> (and none of us has met our great list owner, Harry! >> Harry, are you gonna make this one? :-), but I'm sure there >> are still plenty of lurkers out there - come on out! >> Sunshine is a good thing! Interface with real humans >> for a change! Cool humans who like bikes! >> >> It has been noted that SpringFest '98 (Featuring >> representatives and demo rides from BMW, Buell, >> Ducati, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and Triumph) is also >> scheduled for the same day in Frederick, MD. Life's full >> of hard choices. Don't whine. This one is easy. Do both. >> That Springfest thing starts at 9:00 am. You have >> plenty of time to get totally bored there and still make it to >> our place. :-) >> >> What: DC Cycles Spring Fling >> Date: Saturday, May 2nd >> >> When: 5:00 pm till whenever... :-) >> Where: The Horkster Residence >> 13618 Kerrydale Road, >> Dale City, VA 22193 >> Why: Food, Fun, Fraternization >> Who: DC Cycles Listers and their SO's. Bring children if >> you've got 'em, they can keep my whiny brats (Ages 7 >> and 2) company while we bench race! >> Food >> Provided >> (so far:) Horkster's World Famous Lasagna >> (I'll even provide a meat-free version too, but >> it's gonna have cheese out the wazoo!) >> Tracy's burgers and hot dogs on the grill >> Ursulina's Empanadas (spanish meat turnovers) >> A nice chocolate sheet cake for dessert. >> Beverages >> Provided: Soft Drinks >> We can take up a collection for Beer if enough >> folks want to, otherwise BYOB. If you plan on >> getting toasted, bring camping gear. We've got >> a nice backyard, and I don't want anyone riding >> away drunk! >> >> Actually the camping gear invitation extends to anyone who >> wants to make a night of it. You are all more than welcome >> to stay over. We'll squeeze you in somehow :-) >> >> Please RSVP to me at horkster@XXXXXX, so we can get >> a headcount of who's coming to the Party. CC the list if you >> wish, to give everyone an idea of who'll be there. I'll post >> the RSVP list in a few weeks. In your RSVP include: >> - Your Name >> - The name of any Dates/So's you might bring >> - The names and ages of any children you might bring, we >> might plan some kid activities if we get enough of >> the little darlings together >> - Make/model/year of your bike(s) (Purely optional) >> - The type of soda you prefer, specify diet if you >> want >> - If you drink beer and can make a donation ($5). >> Please indicate preferred (and hated brands), >> otherwise, it will be BYOB. >> - If you can bring a dish/snacks/appetizers and what it is..... >> >> If I can get Leon to post the coordinates for my house, >> those of you with a bike mounted GPS will be able to find us :-) >> For the rest of us low-tech'ers, I'll provide detailed >> directions in a few days. (And maybe we can get Louis to >> post them on his great web-page!) >> >> >> Dale Horstman (the Horkster) >> horkster@XXXXXX >> >> 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD >> 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 13:41:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29810; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24914; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:40:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04189; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay4.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id NAA05153; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:40:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:38:34 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D52F64F@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Todd Peer'" , horkster Cc: DC Cycles List Subject: RE: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:38:44 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Tom & I will be there...you all can see the ring! ; ) Names: Jeannette O'Brien & Tom Zell '85 Honda VF 500; '86 Honda VFR 750 I prefer diet sodas, he likes regular No beer Count us in for some sort of dessert or something...unless he wants to cook! BTW, can't wait for your lasagna, Dale!! - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 14:13:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA00381; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:13:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25668; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:12:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05285; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:12:31 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:15:10 -0500 Received: from WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL [160.151.107.198] by dclink.com with smtp id AOAODIEO ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:14:58 -0500 Reply-To: "Jay" From: "Jay" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" , "Baltimore Cycles List" Subject: Mounting Tires Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:17:34 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd58eb$d4e554c0$LocalHost@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 I have a new set of tires that I want to put on the old fizzer. From talking to the shops, I can see that I won't be able to do it any time soon at their rates. If I pull the rims, I can get the tires mounted and balanced for $25 apiece or so. My problem is that I haven't the equipment or know how to even get the rims off. Can anyone either tell me of a shop that could beat that price or is there someone who could help? I talked to Collin before and he said he could help. Collin. Are you available around the 1st of April? Thanks, Jay http://www.dclink.com/jaynik/index.htm Bodybuilding: The Right Way! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 14:37:09 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA00870; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:37:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25881; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:35:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06002; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:35:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09505; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:35:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <351AADCA.348A9580@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:34:34 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay CC: DC Cycles Mailing List , Baltimore Cycles List Subject: Re: Mounting Tires References: <01bd58eb$d4e554c0$LocalHost@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sure thing. I have a pit bull front stand and an LP rear stand. ANyone needing to borrow them, just give me a little notice. Anytime you want help pulling em off Jay, swing on by.. 1 april is fine. Jay wrote: > I talked to Collin before and he said he could help. Collin. Are you > available around the 1st of April? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 14:42:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA01073; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:42:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25972; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:41:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06265; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:41:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id LSISa05227; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:40:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:40:09 EST To: jlobrien@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: Announcement: DC Cycles Spring Fling Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Hey....send me info on this......I missed it somehow :D Marcy In a message dated 3/26/98 1:59:19 PM, jlobrien@XXXXXX wrote: <> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 14:45:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA01141; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:45:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA26040; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:44:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA06367; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1HDDa08407 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:44:10 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <1b680048.351ab00c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:44:10 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: MY LITTLE WHEELED FRIEND IS SICK Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 anyone know any good doctors? I need to have someone check out the electrical system, the alternator etc etc the battery keeps losing its charge thanks! Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 15:02:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA01435; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26250; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:00:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06806; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-205.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.205]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA21581; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:01:45 -0500 Message-ID: <351AB38A.28777A43@illuminet.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:59:06 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay , dc-cycles Subject: Re: Mounting Tires References: <01bd58eb$d4e554c0$LocalHost@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got a set of tires that I'm about to mount. 1st of April is ok. Bring the tires, wheels, axles and some tape on weights, I'll show/help on yours in return for the weights for my wheels. I'll provide a cold beer or two as well. Leon. Jay wrote: > > I have a new set of tires that I want to put on the old fizzer. From > talking to the shops, I can see that I won't be able to do it any time soon > at their rates. If I pull the rims, I can get the tires mounted and > balanced for $25 apiece or so. My problem is that I haven't the equipment > or know how to even get the rims off. Can anyone either tell me of a shop > that could beat that price or is there someone who could help? > > I talked to Collin before and he said he could help. Collin. Are you > available around the 1st of April? > > Thanks, > > Jay > http://www.dclink.com/jaynik/index.htm > Bodybuilding: The Right Way! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 15:10:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA01673; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26314; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07106; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:08:40 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA24904 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:09:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199803262009.AA24904@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:09:10 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:09:10 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:09:10 -0500 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:07:46 -0500 Subject: Re: El Nino To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199711041819.MAA17915@dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME All, I was cleaning out some old dc-cycles email and fell upon this. Considering the weather we've had 'round these here parts, I thought everyone would get a kick outta this. Once again, our wonder weather service missed by a mile! cheers, -aki > > From: RDWOODJR@XXXXXX > > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 18:27:53 -0500 (EST) > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Cc: RDWOODJR@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: Slippity slip. > > > In a message dated 97-11-03 you write: > > > > Not to mention the fact that, due to El Nino, we'll either have a > > very mild winter or a *really* bad one...has anyone heard the > > latest predictions on what this winter is supposed to be like in > > the D.C. area? > > According to the folks at http://www.intellicast.com/drdew/library/ : > > MID-ATLANTIC STATES (Maryland, Delaware, Virginia, West Virginia) > > El Nino West winters tend to be colder than normal and wetter > than normal in this region. This region has had below normal > temperatures in 5, and above normal precipitation in 6 of the 7 > El Nino West winters since 1950. > > Some big snowfalls have occurred here too (January 1964, December > 1969, January and February 1978, February 1983, January 1993). > Washington, Baltimore, Elkins (WV) have all averaged above normal > snowfall in 5 of the 7 El Nino West winters. > > Our forecast for this region thus is a relatively wet winter with > above normal snowfall, maybe a big snowstorm (or two). > Temperatures will probably average near to below normal > > Comments: Authenticated sender is > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 15:19:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA01871; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26408; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:18:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07447; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:18:00 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:20:38 -0500 Received: from WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL [160.151.107.198] by dclink.com with smtp id APBEBFCL ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:20:26 -0500 Reply-To: "Jay" From: "Jay" To: Cc: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Re: Mounting Tires Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:22:58 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd58f4$f7d5f260$LocalHost@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 LOL!!! Good point!!!! Jay -----Original Message----- From: MEIERCH@XXXXXX To: Jaynik Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 3:05 PM Subject: RE: Mounting Tires > >Careful Jay ... That's April fools day! He might not be there. :-) > >--chris >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >-------- >Christopher A. Meier >meierch@XXXXXX >Northrop Grumman Corporation, Washington DC, USA >1994 RF900R AMA #470094 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >-------- > > >> ---------- >> From: Collin T. Fagan[SMTP:gixer@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 2:34 PM >> To: Jay >> Cc: DC Cycles Mailing List; Baltimore Cycles List >> Subject: Re: Mounting Tires >> >> Sure thing. I have a pit bull front stand and an LP rear stand. ANyone >> needing to borrow them, just give me a little notice. >> Anytime you want help pulling em off Jay, swing on by.. 1 april is fine. >> >> Jay wrote: >> >> > I talked to Collin before and he said he could help. Collin. Are you >> > available around the 1st of April? >> >> >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 15:56:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03145; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:56:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26795; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:55:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08481; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:54:58 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:57:36 -0500 Received: from WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL [160.151.107.198] by dclink.com with smtp id APDJBFFP ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:57:22 -0500 Reply-To: "Jay" From: "Jay" To: Cc: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Re: Mounting Tires Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:59:58 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd58fa$22e2d040$LocalHost@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Woo hoo!!! Collin and Leon are theheroes of the day!!!!!!! Jay What kind of beer do you two like? -----Original Message----- From: gixer@XXXXXX To: Jaynik Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Mounting Tires > >Sure.. I can help you pull them, then we can trek down to Leon's to take em >off and mount em... that's better than $25 for a shop to do it :) >headin home...might miss the turn and take the long way > >Jay wrote: > >> Collin, >> >> Thanks a million. I'll give you a call next week some time to set up at >> time, etc. Can you actually help me pull the wheels? >> >> Jay >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gixer@XXXXXX >> To: Jaynik >> Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 2:38 PM >> Subject: Re: Mounting Tires >> >> > >> >Sure thing. I have a pit bull front stand and an LP rear stand. ANyone >> >needing to borrow them, just give me a little notice. >> >Anytime you want help pulling em off Jay, swing on by.. 1 april is fine. >> > >> >Jay wrote: >> > >> >> I talked to Collin before and he said he could help. Collin. Are you >> >> available around the 1st of April? >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 16:45:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA04078; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:45:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA27219; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:44:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from gwsmtp.nlm.nih.gov by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09882; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from NLM-Message_Server by gwsmtp.nlm.nih.gov with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:44:32 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:44:19 -0500 From: Sandy Triolo To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Saturday morning/afternoon ride One of my standard ways to get toward Harpers Ferry from rt 28 is to go though brunswick, there are plenty of good roads around there but a good map would help... also 121 from bethesda church rd to Boyds is fun but thats coming from the damascus area.... If anyone has an extra bike they would like to have exercised on Sat I would be glad to help out. Failing this, I think I will drag the virago out and see if I can get it operational by Sat morning, hope to see you guys. Sandy 87 Hurricane 600F (needs tune up!) 85 Virago 1000 (needs battery charged) 89 VTR 250 (needs lots of stuff) >>> Thomas H. Gimer 03/25 11:28 PM >>> Assuming we agree on the Potomac Village Safeway as a starting point for Saturday's ride, I'd be happy to lead for the first part of the trip out River Road and through Seneca, Poolesville, Barnesville, Comus, etc., but it would be great if we could get some input on some _good_ Frederick County roads that would lead us up toward Harper's Ferry.... Remember, I just suggested the ride (and I don't actually have a route mapped out) so I'm kinda hoping someone will step forward with an actual plan. ;-) -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 16:57:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA04494; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA27284; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:56:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA10542; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:56:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id PAA06454 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:54:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA11573 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:54:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980326215456.FRPX27160@[166.41.242.141]> for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 15:54:56 -0600 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:54 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: dc-cycles Subject: CannonBall Rally X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980326215456.FRPX27160@[166.41.242.141]> Saw this in the HSTA StarReview for March, 98 Washington: "This years Cannonball Rally is starting from Seattle on July 17th and ending in Savannah, Ga. Exactly 100 riders have paid $1,000 to enter. The top five finishers will receive cash awards up to $30,000. The predicted winner will have ridden the 3,000 miles in about 30 hours. You figure the average speed, but they won't be riding Vespas..." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 17:20:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA04814; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA27757; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA11048; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:18:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21734 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:18:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26076 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:18:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803262218.RAA26076@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: CannonBall Rally To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:18:54 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <19980326215456.FRPX27160@[166.41.242.141]> from "Todd Peer " at Mar 26, 98 04:54:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > Saw this in the HSTA StarReview for March, 98 > > Washington: > "This years Cannonball Rally is starting from Seattle on July 17th > and ending in Savannah, Ga. Exactly 100 riders have paid $1,000 to > enter. The top five finishers will receive cash awards up to $30,000. > The predicted winner will have ridden the 3,000 miles in about 30 hours. > You figure the average speed, but they won't be riding Vespas..." There used to be a good web page with info about this, but the guy running it (nice guy unless you don't have a sense of humor) got some pressure from NHSTA and some other official sounding acronyms, and had to turn the web page off after getting the 100 riders. Hopefully we'll be able to hear the results, and not the police reports. (In this case, the less publicity in advance, the better, I guess) Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 17:23:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA04894; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:23:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA27807; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:22:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailprime.tidalwave.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA11166; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:22:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailprime.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 395; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:20:56 -0500 Message-ID: <351AD507.10798160@tidalwave.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:21:59 -0500 From: "horkster" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: CannonBall Rally References: <19980326215456.FRPX27160@[166.41.242.141]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The predicted winner will have ridden the 3,000 miles in about 30 hours. > You figure the average speed, but they won't be riding Vespas..." -- Sheesh, an *average* speed of PLAID! This might be pushing the common sense envelope a little too far. I bet the donut stuffing revenuers nationwide are licking their chops for this one. Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 20:51:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA07734; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA28981; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA15572; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:49:44 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:52:22 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Jaynik Received: from jaynik [207.168.31.18] by dclink.com with smtp id BEDEAHGA ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:52:08 -0500 Reply-To: "Jay Thompson" From: "Jay Thompson" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Mounting tires Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:47:06 -0000 Message-ID: <01bd58f8$574957c0$451fa8cf@jaynik> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sean, Are you going to do yours at the same time? Collin, Would it be better to do it all at Leon's or vice versa? I'm not sure how we'll pull the wheels off my bike, then take the back road home!!!! ;) Later, Jay -----Original Message----- From: SUPERFND@XXXXXX To: Jaynik Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 10:11 PM Subject: Re: Mounting tires > >Re: Mounting tires > >Leon, Collin and Jay, > My tires also need replacing, and I have the new ones. I have always felt held hostage by >the dealership when it comes time to mount tires because of my ignorance, lack of tools >and because the bike is my only vehicle. > If you guys don't mind, I would really appreciate it if I could tag along on this job. Are >you doing this after work on Weds. April 1? > Thanks, > Sean Sullivan > '95 F3 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Woo hoo!!! Collin and Leon are theheroes of the day!!!!!!! > >Jay >What kind of beer do you two like? >-----Original Message----- >From: gixer@XXXXXX >To: Jaynik >Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 3:49 PM >Subject: Re: Mounting Tires > > >> >>Sure.. I can help you pull them, then we can trek down to Leon's to take em >>off and mount em... that's better than $25 for a shop to do it :) >>headin home...might miss the turn and take the long way >> >>Jay wrote: >> >>> Collin, >>> >>> Thanks a million. I'll give you a call next week some time to set up at >>> time, etc. Can you actually help me pull the wheels? >>> >>> Jay >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: gixer@XXXXXX >>> To: Jaynik >>> Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 2:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mounting Tires >>> >>> > >>> >Sure thing. I have a pit bull front stand and an LP rear stand. ANyone >>> >needing to borrow them, just give me a little notice. >>> >Anytime you want help pulling em off Jay, swing on by.. 1 april is fine. >>> > >>> >Jay wrote: >>> > >>> >> I talked to Collin before and he said he could help. Collin. Are you >>> >> available around the 1st of April? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> >> >> >> > > > > ><<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 22:03:02 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA08497; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA29276; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:01:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA16839; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:01:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-46-142.s142.tnt9.ann.erols.com [207.172.46.142]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA01065 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:01:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351B16DC.A8D3879F@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:02:52 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: some pics Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all, I got bored this evening and took a few pics with my video camera and capture card. They are of the sprocket that I really toasted on the GSXR (next to the brand new one for reference) and the other pics are of the guts of the KZ. 10 pics in all, each around 16k. The KZ pics are ugly (the damage that is) looks like a top end rebuild is in order.. oh well.... The cylinder and head each escaped without damage so I guess that's a possitive sign. For some of the more mechanical inclined, what causes a piston to fry on the intake side like this?? too rich??? I wnat to make sure that it doesn't do a repeat next time I put it together... Oh yeah, man do I ever love working on air cooled, older bikes.... so easy... been so long I forgot how simple they are.. no wonder the japanese made such fortunes off of em. OOPS.. almost forgot... url to the pics is: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/sprockets.html Collin -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 22:55:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA08980; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:55:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA00115; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:54:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA17836; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-24.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.65]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA19869 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:54:15 -0500 Message-ID: <091501bd5934$33b4cba0$3b10b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: Subject: FS -- seen parked Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:45:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 FWIW. This pm -- parked in M&NewHampshire NW spaces with sign -- For Sale 95 ZX6E 703 532 8736. Looked clean. Green/blue/white. Bill Swanson / DC EN500 LTD Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 23:10:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA09115; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:10:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00262; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:10:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA18111; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-46-142.s142.tnt9.ann.erols.com [207.172.46.142]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09240 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:10:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351B26ED.D4B02311@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:11:25 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Friday ridin? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, seeing as how tomorrow is probably my last day with the Gixer (really this time) I plan on riding as mcuh as I can between the time I get off at 3:15 and dark. Anyone wanting to tag along is welcome, but I'm probably going to be zipping along pretty good (I can wait at the end of each stretch :) It'll take me till roughly 4 to get to my house in Tyson's Corner, and another 1/2 hour to get past rte 28, then its fun fun fun... I may even make it all the way out to 211... but that's a little ambitious... anywho...anyone interested, drop me a not or leave a voicemail at my work number (I'm in training all day tomorrow, so I'm only checking the phone occasionally) -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 23:26:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA09226; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:26:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00389; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA18404; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:26:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.56] (unverified [207.226.128.56]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:25:01 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: RE: ST1100 in all variations Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 23:26:50 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Chris Norloff" , "'DC Cycles List'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Seeking investors for "Todd's Chicken Delivery", I just pulled a quarter out of my dog's mouth. That should get me, what, a 35% stake? ------------------------------------------------------------ -George Howell AMA#553567 ghowell@XXXXXX BMWMOA#80794 georgehowell@XXXXXX BMWRA#23411 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 23:26:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA09229; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:26:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00393; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:26:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA18411; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.56] (unverified [207.226.128.56]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:25:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: some pics Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 23:26:53 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >For some of the more mechanical inclined, what causes a piston to fry on >the intake side like this?? too rich??? I wnat to make sure that it >doesn't do a repeat next time I put it together... I thought a lean condition is what caused piston fry. >Oh yeah, man do I ever love working on air cooled, older bikes.... so >easy... been so long I forgot how simple they are.. no wonder the >japanese made such fortunes off of em. Hey, you can still buy even simpler technology brand new. You just have to pay a 10% premium over list price, and wait one year:) ------------------------------------------------------------ -George Howell AMA#553567 ghowell@XXXXXX BMWMOA#80794 georgehowell@XXXXXX BMWRA#23411 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Mar 26 23:26:20 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA09236; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00399; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:26:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA18415; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:26:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.56] (unverified [207.226.128.56]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:25:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CannonBall Rally Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 23:26:56 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "horkster" , "Todd Peer" , "DC Cycles List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Sheesh, an *average* speed of PLAID! This might be pushing >the common sense envelope a little too far. > >I bet the donut stuffing revenuers nationwide are licking >their chops for this one. I for one am glad to see that Brock Yates dream is still alive, unlike that watered down 'one lap of america' crap. ------------------------------------------------------------ -George Howell AMA#553567 ghowell@XXXXXX BMWMOA#80794 georgehowell@XXXXXX BMWRA#23411 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 07:34:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA13472; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:34:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA05931; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:33:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA23685; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from dclink.com by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA08867; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:33:10 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:35:48 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: CKeyser Received: from 24-charlie [207.168.31.33] by dclink.com with smtp id AHCDBMCC ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:35:28 -0500 From: "Ckeyser" To: "DC Motorcycle Club" Subject: Leathers Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:28:52 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Well I have a friend who has some leathers if anyone is interested here is what they are I have a Hein Grekie leather motorcycle coat size L48 for sale, it was $450 new will sell for $200, been worn less than six times in mint condition. Also have a Aerostich roadmaster full suit size L48 keeps out rain and wind sold $750 brand new, will sell for $350 been worn less than six times,also in mint condition. If anyone is interested just email me and let me know and I'll get the information to him. Charlie Ckeyser@XXXXXX Suzuki RF600R http://www.dclink.com/ckeyser From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 07:44:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA13571; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA06031; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA23731; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:43:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id EAA19538; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 04:43:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id EAA29774; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 04:43:10 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id EAA29770; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 04:43:10 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD593A.D6B40860@XXXXXX>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 04:43:08 -0800 Message-ID: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Directions to Safeway on River Road Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 04:38:59 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 5 TEXT, 34 UUENCODE X-MS-Attachment: WINMAIL.DAT 0 00-00-1980 00:00 Could I get directions to the Safeway at River Road. I would love to join the ride tomorrow but I don't know the way to the meeting place. And wasn't the start time 10 am? begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(@D,`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` M& ```$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`06 `P`.````S@<#`!L` M! `F`#L`!0!=`0$@@ ,`#@```,X'`P`;``0`*P`'``4`+@$!"8 !`"$````S M-30Q,#@Y,T0Y0CE$,3$Q03%"03 P.# U1D,Q1$-&0@`K!P$-@ 0``@````(` M`@`!!( !`"0```!$:7)E8W1I;VYS('1O(%-A9F5W87D@;VX@4FEV97(@4F]A M9 #2# $#D 8`8 0``!L````#``" "" &``````# ````````1@````!2A0`` MMPT``!X``8 (( 8``````, ```````!&`````%2%```!````! ```#@N, `# M``80,T5A1@,`!Q"%````'@`($ $```!E````0T]53$1)1T541$E214-424]. 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What time? Day or night? Jay -----Original Message----- From: mrider@XXXXXX To: Jaynik Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 7:22 AM Subject: Re: Mounting tires > >Not a problem. It'll probably take a little longer with that many, but I've >got lights. > >Directions: I-95 S. to Exit 156, Follow signs to Dale City (Center exit of >3) Stay on Dale Blvd for approx. 6 miles, turn left on Princedale Dr. >(first left after the soccer fields and water park), first right on Packard >Dr. 13391 Packard is 5th house on right. > >Leon. > >At 21:57 26-03-98 -0500, you wrote: >>Well, If Leon's willing to put up with all of us, the best bet would be >>for me to truck down that direction with the stands in the back of the >>truck...Then we can change tires in waves.. one bike after the next. >> >>Sean Sullivan wrote: >>> >>> Re: Mounting tires >>> >>> Leon, Collin and Jay, >>> My tires also need replacing, and I have the new ones. I have always >felt held hostage by >>> the dealership when it comes time to mount tires because of my ignorance, >lack of tools >>> and because the bike is my only vehicle. >>> If you guys don't mind, I would really appreciate it if I could tag >along on this job. Are >>> you doing this after work on Weds. April 1? >>> Thanks, >>> Sean Sullivan >>> '95 F3 >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Woo hoo!!! Collin and Leon are theheroes of the day!!!!!!! >>> >>> Jay >>> What kind of beer do you two like? >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: gixer@XXXXXX >>> To: Jaynik >>> Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 3:49 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mounting Tires >>> >>> > >>> >Sure.. I can help you pull them, then we can trek down to Leon's to take em >>> >off and mount em... that's better than $25 for a shop to do it :) >>> >headin home...might miss the turn and take the long way >>> > >>> >Jay wrote: >>> > >>> >> Collin, >>> >> >>> >> Thanks a million. I'll give you a call next week some time to set up at >>> >> time, etc. Can you actually help me pull the wheels? >>> >> >>> >> Jay >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: gixer@XXXXXX >>> >> To: Jaynik >>> >> Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 2:38 PM >>> >> Subject: Re: Mounting Tires >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> >Sure thing. I have a pit bull front stand and an LP rear stand. ANyone >>> >> >needing to borrow them, just give me a little notice. >>> >> >Anytime you want help pulling em off Jay, swing on by.. 1 april is fine. >>> >> > >>> >> >Jay wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> I talked to Collin before and he said he could help. Collin. Are you >>> >> >> available around the 1st of April? >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >> >>-- >>_________________________________________ >>Collin and Penny Fagan >>LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard >>(202) 366-0067 (work) >>(703) 356-4279 (home) >>ICQ UIN: 435732 >>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ >>(us, bikes, reptiles, and more) >> >> >Leon Begeman (703) 590-9073 >13391 Packard Dr., Dale City, VA 22193 > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 08:11:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA13892; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA06254; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:10:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from drquest.digex.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA24128; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.17.2.31 (pix000027.staff.digex.net [206.205.168.39]) by drquest.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA08897; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:10:10 -0500 X-Mailer: InterCon tcpCONNECT4 4.0.2 (Macintosh) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9803270812.AA08212@172.17.2.31> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:12:08 -0500 From: "Matt Elliott - DIGEX" To: "Viteri, Ursulina" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Directions to Safeway on River Road Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: Inline Will there be a group of nova riders starting in NoVA somewhere? I'm thinking to taking 50 to 15N, to rt 704 (bypasses Leesburg) rt 9 up to Harpers Ferry. If the MD ride is a much nicer ride, let me know. The above route is pretty nice, esp. once you get up to rt. 704 and beyond. Unless the MD ride is a much more scenic ride (looking for info here) I plan on leaving the Herndon Area around 10:30ish. Thanks, Matt PS: I came a nanometer from playing hookie today, what a georgous day here, finally! > Could I get directions to the Safeway at River Road. I would love to > join the ride tomorrow but I don't know the way to the meeting place. > And wasn't the start time 10 am? > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 08:15:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA13939; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA06296; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:14:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA24189; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.03) id A5FA55A0286; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:13:30 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980327074956.00f3e140@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:49:56 -0500 To: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: some pics In-Reply-To: <351B16DC.A8D3879F@geocities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >The KZ pics are ugly (the damage that is) looks like a top end rebuild >is in order.. oh well.... The cylinder and head each escaped without >damage so I guess that's a possitive sign. >For some of the more mechanical inclined, what causes a piston to fry on >the intake side like this?? too rich??? I'm no expert, but I've always associated too lean with high temperatures and burning. A rich mixture is cooling. How's the timing? Lean and an advanced spark could cause detonation and associated damage. good luck, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 08:20:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA14045; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:20:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA06351; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:19:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA24293; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:19:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id FAA21641; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id FAA03753; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:19:19 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id FAA03748; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:19:19 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD593F.E3445580@XXXXXX>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:19:16 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Matt Elliott - DIGEX'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Fri afternoon/Sat rides was Directions to Safeway on River Road Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 05:15:11 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 42 TEXT Oooooooh, I'm glad you said that! I live very close to Herndon and your starting point is very convenient. I'll be checking back with you later to see how things firm up. Speaking of taking off, I'm heading out at noon! Can I get some suggestions for a short afternoon ride that starts around Vienna/Route 66 West and lasts about 2 hours. Thanks! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC direct 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * Main 202-223-9222 >-----Original Message----- >From: Matt Elliott - DIGEX [SMTP:elliottm@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 27, 1998 5:12 AM >To: Viteri, Ursulina; 'DC Cycles' >Subject: Re: Directions to Safeway on River Road > >Will there be a group of nova riders starting in NoVA somewhere? I'm >thinking >to taking 50 to 15N, to rt 704 (bypasses Leesburg) rt 9 up to Harpers Ferry. >If the MD ride is a much nicer ride, let me know. The above route is pretty >nice, esp. once you get up to rt. 704 and beyond. > >Unless the MD ride is a much more scenic ride (looking for info here) I plan >on leaving the Herndon Area around 10:30ish. > >Thanks, >Matt > >PS: I came a nanometer from playing hookie today, what a georgous day here, >finally! > > >> Could I get directions to the Safeway at River Road. I would love to >> join the ride tomorrow but I don't know the way to the meeting place. >> And wasn't the start time 10 am? >> >> >> >> >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 08:29:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA14125; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:29:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA06468; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA24425; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:28:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD595A.279D9790@XXXXXX>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:27:18 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: Today & Tomorrow Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:27:16 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 27 TEXT We today started out badly but got incredibly better and I hadn't even left the house. First I thought I would have to take the cage because I was to deliver a system to Reston today and I haven't figured out how to strap an HP 9000 Series 700 system to the bike yet. So out of the blue I decided to call today to confirm that I would be delivering this system today only to find that Yipee! it has been postponed until next Wednesday so I got to ride. Tomorrow's a different story - I'm taking GRE prep classes at NVCC in Annadale - so I'll be stuck inside from 9am until 2:30pm (this class is run by the GRE Nazi and we don't get breaks) but I do plan to ride my bike. So if you all are in the area, detour through the Annadale campus and blow your horns --- Tracy Tracy Horstman UNIX System Admin Lockheed Martin Mission Systems 9255 Wellington Road Manassas, VA 20110 Phone: (703) 367-2981 Fax: (703) 367-1392 E-mail: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 08:53:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA14367; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:53:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA06634; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:52:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from emshqs2.ncr.disa.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA24851; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:52:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803271352.IAA24851@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: by emshqs2.ncr.disa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:52:30 -0500 From: "Mersch, Tom" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX " Subject: RE: CannonBall Rally Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:40:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain All those wasted years, crawling along at 80 :( ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: CannonBall Rally Author: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] at DISAHUB Date: 3/26/98 5:18 PM > Saw this in the HSTA StarReview for March, 98 > > Washington: > "This years Cannonball Rally is starting from Seattle on July 17th > and ending in Savannah, Ga. Exactly 100 riders have paid $1,000 to > enter. The top five finishers will receive cash awards up to $30,000. > The predicted winner will have ridden the 3,000 miles in about 30 hours. > You figure the average speed, but they won't be riding Vespas..." There used to be a good web page with info about this, but the guy running it (nice guy unless you don't have a sense of humor) got some pressure from NHSTA and some other official sounding acronyms, and had to turn the web page off after getting the 100 riders. Hopefully we'll be able to hear the results, and not the police reports. (In this case, the less publicity in advance, the better, I guess) Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 09:39:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA14827; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:39:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA07224; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:38:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25560; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id IAA04976; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:37:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid01.mcit.com [166.37.221.13]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA30294; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:37:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid01.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980327143755.KAD13104@[166.41.242.141]>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:37:55 -0600 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:24 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: "Matt Elliott - DIGEX" CC: "Viteri, Ursulina" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Directions to Safeway on River Road X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980327143755.KAD13104@[166.41.242.141]> Ursulina, you live out route 7 way right? Make your way to 495. To avoid the Tysons Corner congestion, and for a better ride out, I would get on 193 (Old Georgetown Pike) and ride it out to 495. 193 is a little east of the FFax Cty Pkwy, and just west of the Reston Pkwy. Taking 193 has the added advantage of cutting out alot of 495 as well. Get on 495 North to MD. Take exit 39 w, River Road. About 3 miles down close to where River Road crosses Bradly Blvd you'll find the Safeway. If I'm wrong about this folks (Tom?), let me know. Tom Gimer suggested we all be there by 10:30am, so I'll see you there. Todd >Will there be a group of nova riders starting in NoVA somewhere? I'm thinking >to taking 50 to 15N, to rt 704 (bypasses Leesburg) rt 9 up to Harpers Ferry. >If the MD ride is a much nicer ride, let me know. The above route is pretty >nice, esp. once you get up to rt. 704 and beyond. > >Unless the MD ride is a much more scenic ride (looking for info here) I plan >on leaving the Herndon Area around 10:30ish. > >Thanks, >Matt > >PS: I came a nanometer from playing hookie today, what a georgous day here, >finally! > > >> Could I get directions to the Safeway at River Road. I would love to >> join the ride tomorrow but I don't know the way to the meeting place. >> And wasn't the start time 10 am? >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 09:46:22 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA14950; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA07330; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:45:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25672; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:45:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16487; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 06:44:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <351BBB00.77D7593A@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:43:12 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Viteri, Ursulina" CC: "'Matt Elliott - DIGEX'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Fri afternoon/Sat rides was Directions to Safeway on River Road References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ursulina, take a look at the rides on my rides sheet page.. most of em are just west of there... or...heading 50 west, take a right onto ??? (look for the brown signs for a state park), then in about 1.5 miles, turn left onto evergreen mill road. this will take you all the way to just south of Leesburgh, turn left on 15, 3 or so miles, right on 704 at gas station, all the way to hamilton... turn right on 7 business, continue straight, this turns into 690 which will take you into Leesburgh the back way. Right at the first stoplight. Next major light (roy rogers on left..gas station accross streeet diagonally) turn right again. continue 2 miles or so, right onramp back to 15 south, 2 blocks, left back onto evergreen mill road reversing what you did on the way out... I'm doing a similar route, but much longer (and probably a lot faster) when I get off this afternoon.. have fun CT Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > Speaking of taking off, I'm heading out at noon! Can I get some > suggestions for a short afternoon ride that starts around Vienna/Route > 66 West and lasts about 2 hours. Thanks! > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 09:55:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15088; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:55:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA07520; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25950; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:54:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from MARKSOMM@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1XYOa21411 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:53:39 -0500 (EST) From: MARKSOMM Message-ID: <951191f9.351bbd75@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:53:39 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: some pics Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 In a message dated 98-03-27 08:29:17 EST, you write: << I'm no expert, but I've always associated too lean with high temperatures and burning. A rich mixture is cooling. How's the timing? Lean and an advanced spark could cause detonation and associated damage.>> I know that with outboards, low octane can burn a hole in a piston. Do motorcycles work the same way? Could there have been some old gas in there that had lost some of the lighter weight volatiles? Mark Sommerfield From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 10:01:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15147; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:01:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07664; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:00:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlalaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26072; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:00:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from DLADC01-Message_Server by dlalaw.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:05:20 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:01:30 -0400 From: Kelli Jareaux To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Paint, Bike wanted, misc Hi, I just joined the list. I am Kelli. I ride a Yamaha 650 Maxim. I am interested in finding some people to ride with. I am out of commission right now because my bike is being repaired but when its finished I want to do a rode trip to New York hang out for the weekend and return in time for work on Monday. Any interest? On another issue. I would like to have my bike painted or at least have the rust removed. Does anyone know of a good local place to get this done? I am also looking to purchase something a little more powerful and give my bike away to my partner. I like a cruiser style bike anyone selling? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 10:15:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15366; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:15:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07972; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:14:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from egate2.citicorp.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26556; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:14:37 -0500 (EST) From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Received: by egate2.citicorp.com id AA27303 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:15:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199803271515.AA27303@egate2.citicorp.com> Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:15:10 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:15:10 -0500 Received: by egate2.citicorp.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:15:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:12:50 -0500 Subject: NOVA MGR Correction (3/27/98) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1.1-p14)/MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_0_MIME_Boundary_6929.351bc27d.wtprod2.cgin.us-md.citicorp.com" ------ =_0_MIME_Boundary_6929.351bc27d.wtprod2.cgin.us-md.citicorp.com just a correction to the Nova mailing list for anyone who's interested. -aki ------ =_0_MIME_Boundary_6929.351bc27d.wtprod2.cgin.us-md.citicorp.com Content-Type: message/rfc822 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:15:09 -0500 From: Novamgr@XXXXXX Subject: NOVA MGR Correction (3/27/98) Message-Id: <5ea9047e.351bab50@aol.com> Hello fellow riders, Just wanted to make a quick correction to the bulletin board from the last Email. Under the Americade group ride, there was an incorrect phone number for more information. That line should read: "Email jockodc@XXXXXX or call 202-588-1943 if interested." Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Thanks, Alan R. Wheat NOVA MGR Novamgr@XXXXXX http://members.aol.com/AWheat/nova_mgr.html Apparently-To: -- ------ =_0_MIME_Boundary_6929.351bc27d.wtprod2.cgin.us-md.citicorp.com-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 10:30:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15510; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:30:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08107; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:29:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26859; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:29:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1YCPa09116 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:28:33 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:28:33 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: FOR all you ARTSY FARTSY BIKERS Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 I'm having a show of my paintings at The Bar (part of Utopia) on 1416 U Street NW, Opening reception is: Wednesday April 8, 9 pm, hors d'oeuvres, cash bar and music by MK Ultra (anyone ever heard of them? I haven't!) If you want to see some digital files of the paintings email me and I'll send one to you as an attachment......... hope to see you! Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 10:37:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15636; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:37:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08207; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:36:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27093; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:36:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from MARKSOMM@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1XGRa01114 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:36:11 -0500 (EST) From: MARKSOMM Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:36:11 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Paint, Bike wanted, misc Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 In a message dated 98-03-27 10:09:46 EST, you write: << I just joined the list. I am Kelli. I ride a Yamaha 650 Maxim. I am interested in finding some people to ride with. I am out of commission right now because my bike is being repaired but when its finished I want to do a rode trip to New York hang out for the weekend and return in time for work on Monday. Any interest? >> Welcome to the list. I am planning to go up to the City to hang out with my cousin from Australia that will be up there the weekend of May 8-10. Riding up together would be a possibility. On this topic, anybody have any experience riding in NY? Is street parking available? Is theft or vandalism of bikes a bigger problem than DC? Anything else I should take into account? Mark Sommerfield From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 10:38:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15642; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08213; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:37:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from lds96.lds96.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27102; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:37:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by lds96.lds96.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BD596B.91992EF0@XXXXXX>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:31:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tom Zell To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: The weekend!!! Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:31:56 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey folks!!! Enjoy the lovely weather this weekend!! Jeannette and I are about to head out to Cape Charles on the Eastern Shore for our mini-vacation. I'm going to pick up the trailer right now(we couldn't leave our bikes behind and we have too much stuff to carry to ride down there)!! Anyway... enjoy! -Tom From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 10:54:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15898; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:54:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08335; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:53:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27571; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:53:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA11790; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA28613; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:52:29 -0800 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA28605; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:52:27 -0800 Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD5955.47AACCB0@XXXXXX>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:52:24 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Tom Zell'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: The weekend!!! Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 07:48:19 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 21 TEXT Have a great time and don't forget the sunblock!! Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC direct 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * Main 202-223-9222 >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zell@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, March 27, 1998 7:32 AM >To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' >Subject: The weekend!!! > >Hey folks!!! > >Enjoy the lovely weather this weekend!! Jeannette and I are about to >head out to Cape Charles on the Eastern Shore for our mini-vacation. >I'm going to pick up the trailer right now(we couldn't leave our bikes >behind and we have too much stuff to carry to ride down there)!! > >Anyway... enjoy! > >-Tom From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 11:01:29 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA16073; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08433; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:00:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27890; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:00:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-189.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.189]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA18253; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:01:27 -0500 Message-ID: <351BCCBB.DDA4F268@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 10:58:51 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay CC: DC Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Mounting tires References: <01bd5982$5c92ff80$c66b97a0@WR-W95LJThompson.WRAMC.ARMY.MIL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ok. On Wednesday April Fool's Day there will be a tire mounting party at my house. I'll be home by 5PM, if you show up earlier, you might not be allowed in, it depends on who is home. Directions to 13391 Packard Dr, Dale City (38°39'50" N, 77°23'39"W): Take I-95 to Exit 156. Follow the signs to Dale City. Follow Dale Blvd for about 6 miles. Take a left onto Princedale Dr., it's about 1/4 mile past the soccer field/water park. Then take the first right onto Packard Dr. my house is the 5th house on the right. There is a horse on the mail box, and my wife Karen has Ford Aerostar Vans. Someone else has volunteered to bring wheel weights, I've got the garage and a couple of tire irons, we'll play the rest by ear when you get here. Leon. Jay wrote: > > So are we agreed on Wednesday, April 1st? What time? Day or night? > > Jay > -----Original Message----- > From: mrider@XXXXXX > To: Jaynik > Date: Friday, March 27, 1998 7:22 AM > Subject: Re: Mounting tires > > > > >Not a problem. It'll probably take a little longer with that many, but > I've > >got lights. > > > >Directions: I-95 S. to Exit 156, Follow signs to Dale City (Center exit of > >3) Stay on Dale Blvd for approx. 6 miles, turn left on Princedale Dr. > >(first left after the soccer fields and water park), first right on Packard > >Dr. 13391 Packard is 5th house on right. > > > >Leon. > > > >At 21:57 26-03-98 -0500, you wrote: > >>Well, If Leon's willing to put up with all of us, the best bet would be > >>for me to truck down that direction with the stands in the back of the > >>truck...Then we can change tires in waves.. one bike after the next. > >> > >>Sean Sullivan wrote: > >>> > >>> Re: Mounting tires > >>> > >>> Leon, Collin and Jay, > >>> My tires also need replacing, and I have the new ones. I have always > >felt held hostage by > >>> the dealership when it comes time to mount tires because of my > ignorance, > >lack of tools > >>> and because the bike is my only vehicle. > >>> If you guys don't mind, I would really appreciate it if I could tag > >along on this job. Are > >>> you doing this after work on Weds. April 1? > >>> Thanks, > >>> Sean Sullivan > >>> '95 F3 > >>> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> Woo hoo!!! Collin and Leon are theheroes of the day!!!!!!! > >>> > >>> Jay > >>> What kind of beer do you two like? > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: gixer@XXXXXX > >>> To: Jaynik > >>> Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 3:49 PM > >>> Subject: Re: Mounting Tires > >>> > >>> > > >>> >Sure.. I can help you pull them, then we can trek down to Leon's to > take em > >>> >off and mount em... that's better than $25 for a shop to do it :) > >>> >headin home...might miss the turn and take the long way > >>> > > >>> >Jay wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> Collin, > >>> >> > >>> >> Thanks a million. I'll give you a call next week some time to set up > at > >>> >> time, etc. Can you actually help me pull the wheels? > >>> >> > >>> >> Jay > >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >>> >> From: gixer@XXXXXX > >>> >> To: Jaynik > >>> >> Date: Thursday, March 26, 1998 2:38 PM > >>> >> Subject: Re: Mounting Tires > >>> >> > >>> >> > > >>> >> >Sure thing. I have a pit bull front stand and an LP rear stand. > ANyone > >>> >> >needing to borrow them, just give me a little notice. > >>> >> >Anytime you want help pulling em off Jay, swing on by.. 1 april is > fine. > >>> >> > > >>> >> >Jay wrote: > >>> >> > > >>> >> >> I talked to Collin before and he said he could help. Collin. Are > you > >>> >> >> available around the 1st of April? > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > >> > >>-- > >>_________________________________________ > >>Collin and Penny Fagan > >>LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard > >>(202) 366-0067 (work) > >>(703) 356-4279 (home) > >>ICQ UIN: 435732 > >>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ > >>(us, bikes, reptiles, and more) > >> > >> > >Leon Begeman (703) 590-9073 > >13391 Packard Dr., Dale City, VA 22193 > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 11:11:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17472; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:11:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08652; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:10:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailprime.tidalwave.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28139; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:10:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailprime.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id 187; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:09:22 -0500 Message-ID: <351BCF6E.D69F3004@tidalwave.net> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:10:22 -0500 From: "horkster" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Clark E. Dorman" CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: DC-Cycles Springfling References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clark E. Dorman RSVP'ed: > > Clark Dorman, I'm a lurker, haven't been on the DC-cycles rides, but > I've been on some of the CAMS ones. It'll be great to finally meet > people. Cool! You are the first lurker to come out from the shadows! I hope others do as well. Everyone is welcome. > > > - The name of any Dates/So's you might bring > > SO, Heather Hughes > > > - The names and ages of any children you might bring, we > > might plan some kid activities if we get enough of > > the little darlings together > > None, the Ex has him that day. Unfortunate, but it means I can ride. > > > - Make/model/year of your bike(s) (Purely optional) > > 78 BMW R75/7 (assuming I can put the speedometer / tachometer back > together before then :-) Alright! Another 1978 Bike! Twenty years old this year! Old bikes are cool. I've got 4 of them at home. The wife won't let me get new ones... :-) > > - The type of soda you prefer, specify diet if you > > want > > Diet Coke for me, Coke for the little woman. > > > - If you drink beer and can make a donation ($5). > > Yecchh, I don't like beer. Maybe tequila shooters, but not beer. Hmm, maybe I should go get me some lemons and salt... > > > - If you can bring a dish/snacks/appetizers and what it is..... > > I'd love to. If you can spare the room in the oven, I make some crab and > cheese thingies that everyone always loves (unless you're on a diet!), but > I need to bring them frozen and cook them for 5 minutes in the oven. It's > probably a better thing to bring them frozen anyway because they're going > to be in the sidebag. Sure. The oven will most likely be warm from the lasagna anyway! Don't worry about serving utensils and whatnot, we've got all that. > > Thanks for the invite. I'm looking forward to meeting you. > > -- > Clark Clark, You are certainly welcome. Likewise, can't wait to meet you, the SO, and the bike! -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD (getting worse) 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 (getting better) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 11:36:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17802; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:36:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08900; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:35:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28849; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:35:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com ([209.49.109.130]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA09104 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:35:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980327113652.006a38f4@pop.mindspring.com> Received: from [172.16.4.56] by firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com via smtpd (for ftp.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 16:35:06 UT X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 11:36:52 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Seneca Rocks Loop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anybody interested in doing the Seneca Rocks Loop Sunday? My plan is to go out 66, pick up 55 down to Seneca Rocks, take 33 back across the mountains, then up 340 to Front Royal. According to Delorme, it's 366 miles round trip from Bethesda. I probably won't be able to leave until 10. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 12:12:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA18433; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:12:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA09974; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:11:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00036; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:11:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway.uscg.mil [152.121.100.100]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03252; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 09:09:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <351BDD1C.CF3F762D@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:08:44 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Seneca Rocks Loop References: <3.0.1.32.19980327113652.006a38f4@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is an awesome loop..John Koh and I did a similar route last summer.. out 50 way into west VA, took a nice long road (can't remember the number) down to 33 then back into VA on 33 and up 81 to some friends house just outside of Front Royal.. total loop was about 425miles... 33 is by far one of the best stretches around here. Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. wrote: > Anybody interested in doing the Seneca Rocks Loop Sunday? My plan is to > go out 66, pick up 55 down to Seneca Rocks, take 33 back across the > mountains, then up 340 to Front Royal. According to Delorme, it's 366 > miles round trip from Bethesda. > I probably won't be able to leave until 10. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 12:29:16 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA18681; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:29:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA10293; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00416; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:28:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com ([209.49.109.130]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA05991; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:27:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980327122931.006b1488@pop.mindspring.com> Received: from [172.16.4.56] by firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com via smtpd (for ftp.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 17:27:42 UT X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:29:31 -0500 To: "Collin T. Fagan" From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: Seneca Rocks Loop Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <351BDD1C.CF3F762D@geocities.com> References: <3.0.1.32.19980327113652.006a38f4@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:08 PM 3/27/98 -0500, Collin T. Fagan wrote: >That is an awesome loop..John Koh and I did a similar route last summer.. out >50 way into west VA, took a nice long road (can't remember the number) down >to 33 then back into VA on 33 and up 81 to some friends house just outside of >Front Royal.. total loop was about 425miles... 33 is by far one of the best >stretches around here. Collin, 50 west of 81 is fantastic. If you take it just beyond Romney, WV, then down 220 (named one of the best motorcycling roads in the country by one of the mags), you can pick up 33. Actually, 50 and 33 are quasi-parallel, so you can ride west as far as you can stand, then take almost any road south and pick up 33 back. I'm planning an overnight loop like that (Day 1 out 50, Day 2 back 33). Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 12:56:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA19066; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:56:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA10843; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01146; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com ([209.49.109.130]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA19638 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:55:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980327125650.006aeef0@pop.mindspring.com> Received: from [172.16.4.56] by firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com via smtpd (for ftp.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 17:55:07 UT X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:56:50 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Senaca Rocks Loop map Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" FYI, I posted a map of the loop on: http://www.greenspun.com/harry/senecarocks.htm Beware, it's a 190k image. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 14:00:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA20038; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:00:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA11514; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from suntan.kleks.org by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02566; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:58:42 -0500 (EST) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.kleks.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) id NAA01282; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:59:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803271859.NAA01282@suntan.kleks.org> Subject: Re: Seneca Rocks Loop To: hgg@XXXXXX (Harry G. Greenspun M.D.) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:59:50 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980327122931.006b1488@pop.mindspring.com> from "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." at Mar 27, 98 12:29:31 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > > Collin, > 50 west of 81 is fantastic. If you take it just beyond Romney, WV, then I rode 50 from Ohio, a year ago. That is one hell of a ride. Beware that cops in Romney are very picky - just stick to legal posted limits, and avoid passing on double yellow. I made a mistake to pass a local sheriff driving with his grandma and kids. His deputies waited for me in Romney... and I talked myself out :-0 ( still do not know how ). _zjt From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 14:11:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA20162; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:11:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11651; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:10:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from att.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02840; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by cagw1.att.com; Fri Mar 27 14:03 EST 1998 Received: from dcn72.dcn.att.com ([135.44.192.2]) by caig1.att.att.com (AT&T/GW-1.0) with SMTP id OAA14569 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:10:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by dcn72.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD598A.0FB17950@XXXXXX>; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:10:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Ride Tomorrow Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:10:12 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Would someone be kind enough to mail me directly detailing any rides for tomorrow? (I am in digest mode) Thanks. John Carver '98 Interceptor jcarver@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 14:47:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA20687; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:47:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA12427; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:46:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03981; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:46:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from erols.com (207-172-74-112.s49.as6.man.erols.com [207.172.74.112]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18071 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:46:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351C0203.21FB6C4D@erols.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:46:12 -0500 From: David Reply-To: dm357@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Hello All Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been "lurking" here for about a week, Good to read all the different topics...... Unfortunately I have to put some hours in on Sat. (28) for work and can't make the trip to HP. Anyone doing a more "local" ride later in the day or something on Sun. (29) ??? Be gentle, I'm just getting back into riding after a 15 year break :) David Meade Woodbridge '98 Shadow From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 16:19:01 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA22842; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:19:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA14709; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:16:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA.COM (known pasha.com [207.32.107.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07530; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:16:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:08:32 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:16:32 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, horkster@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Announcement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Re: Announcement Kelli, welcome to the list. You and your partner will find a lot of fun people to ride with, and the D.C. Cycles Spring Fling at the Horstman's should be a great chance to meet everyone. Dale and Tracy, thanks for offering to host the party. I plan on being there with a date. Sean Name: Sean Sullivan Make/model: '95 Honda CBR F3 Soda: Coke Beer: Amstel Light for $5 Dish: I will bring calzone or cookies From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 16:50:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA23548; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:50:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA15087; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from drquest.digex.net (known drquest.digex.net [204.91.98.8]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08784; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from 172.17.2.31 (pix000027.staff.digex.net [206.205.168.39]) by drquest.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA11077 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:48:50 -0500 X-Mailer: InterCon tcpCONNECT4 4.0.2 (Macintosh) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9803271650.AA41259@172.17.2.31> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:50:41 -0500 From: "Matt Elliott - DIGEX" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Questions from the eletronically challenged Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: Inline Hi all, I'm gearing up to be more of a MC'ist and getting out of the cage, I'd like to look into some helmet to helmet intercom systems, just to use with the passenger. Wire or wireless, I haven't decided yet - I hear wire has better sound, less costly, but then you have wires all over the place. Does anyone out there have some info they could pass along, ie: names/rough cost/places to look? Many thanks, Matt 95 Nighthawk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 17:26:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA24256; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:26:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA15429; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net (known loas.clark.net [168.143.0.13]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10068; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:24:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (sward@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23358 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (sward@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA08891 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:24:55 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.clark.net: sward owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:24:54 -0500 (EST) From: David Sward To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Motorcycle maintenance class Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, another lurker here. If you're as ignorant of motorcycle maintenance as I (*ahem*), the Montgomery County Department of Recreation is again offering a motorcycle maintenance class this year. I tried three times last year, but all were cancelled due to insufficient enrollment. The next class is on April 24 & 25 (Fri & Sat), and I (92 F2, unfortunately for sale) and my brother (78 KZ200) are signed up. Hopefully, some more from this group can help make it happen. The info from the course catalog: [cut] Motorcycle Maintenance Ages 16 & up: Course is geared to both novice and serious maintenance-minded riders. Includes tune-ups and lubrication, adjustment and replacement of key suspension and safety equipment, etc. Motorcycle and tools provided. You will be able to work on your own motorcycle on Sat. $15 materials fee due instructor at first session. Classes taught by David Paull of The Right Track. Registration deadline is one week prior to the start of each class. 13 Hours: 6-10pm Fri., 8am-5pm Sat. $63 MOTORCYC 001 Lincoln Ctr. Rockville Paull 4/24 F,Sa 6:00pm 002 Lincoln Ctr. Rockville Paull 5/29 F,Sa 6:00pm [cut] You can pick up a copy of the catalog from any Montgomery County library. Out of county residents are welcome, but there is an additional fee (sorry, the fee info was on the registration form that was mailed in). -- David Sward sward@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 17:49:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA24604; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:49:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA15927; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemini.smart.net (known gemini.smart.net [206.27.242.109]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA10508; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:48:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from richard (max2p195.smart.net [206.97.127.195]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA09125; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:48:36 -0500 Message-ID: <351C2BB5.3A0C@smart.net> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:45:22 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Gimer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Elliott - DIGEX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Questions from the eletronically challenged References: <9803271650.AA41259@172.17.2.31> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt Elliott - DIGEX wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm gearing up to be more of a MC'ist and getting out of the cage, I'd like to > look into some helmet to helmet intercom systems, just to use with the > passenger. Wire or wireless, I haven't decided yet - I hear wire has better > sound, less costly, but then you have wires all over the place. > > Does anyone out there have some info they could pass along, ie: names/rough > cost/places to look? Battley Cycles in Gaithersburg, MD sells the Autocom systems, which have been recommended by most of the people I have asked.....but they are quite expensive. JM Audio sells some high-line stuff, too, and one HJC's Chatterbox systems is made with just an intercom and is much cheaper. All of the above can be researched over the web. -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 18:30:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA25235; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:30:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA17918; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:29:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (known welchlink.welch.jhu.edu [128.220.59.78]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA11710; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:29:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com ([209.49.109.130]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA02103; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:29:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980327183055.006a1904@pop.mindspring.com> Received: from [172.16.4.56] by firewall_out.adventisthealthcare.com via smtpd (for ftp.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) with SMTP; 27 Mar 1998 23:29:24 UT X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:30:55 -0500 To: "Matt Elliott - DIGEX" From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Motorcycle Intercoms Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <9803271650.AA41259@172.17.2.31> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:50 PM 3/27/98 -0500, Matt Elliott - DIGEX wrote: >I'd like to look into some helmet to helmet intercom >systems, just to use with the passenger. Matt, You missed a recent discussion on this. Basically, with intercoms there is a direct correlation between price and performance. None of the low-end units seem to work even adequately, while the high-priced (Autocom, J&M) ones are excellent, though a system can cost over $400. What you should get depends on what you want the system to do and how much you want to spend. I'd be happy to give you info on my Autocom system (you can get some info from my webpages). Others have had good experiences with lower priced units. However, most people regard the cheap units as money thrown away. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 18:56:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA25544; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:56:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA18398; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:55:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from gemini.smart.net (known gemini.smart.net [206.27.242.109]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA12116; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from richard (max2p182.smart.net [206.97.127.182]) by gemini.smart.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA10957 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:55:30 -0500 Message-ID: <351C3BB0.22EA@smart.net> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 18:52:17 -0500 From: "Thomas H. Gimer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-Cycles Subject: Looking for bike Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a friend who is looking to find a CBR600 for $3000 or less. Obviously this limits his selection to F1s and F2s with higher mileage, but he's got the cash and is ready to purchase if he finds a decent bike. Please keep your eyes and ears open and email me if you know where one is. Thanks. -- Thomas H. Gimer tgimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 20:18:02 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA26090; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA19795; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:16:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from gwsmtp.nlm.nih.gov (known gwsmtp.nlm.nih.gov [130.14.71.63]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA13280; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:16:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from NLM-Message_Server by gwsmtp.nlm.nih.gov with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:16:53 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:16:26 -0500 From: Sandy Triolo To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Sat ride Well I couldn't take the pressure of knowing you guys would be riding and I wouldn't (since both bikes are not ready to roll) SO I went and purchased an 90 virago 1100 today... the old virago is already sold so I am doing a replacement thing. If all goes well I might make to the ride on sat. but if not I'll catch up with the next ride (cause I'll be ready!) Sandy 87 Hurricane CBR600F 85 Virago 1000 (SOLD) 90 Virago 1100!!!! 89 VTR 250 please buy this bike From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 20:38:40 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA26250; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:38:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA20029; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:37:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from suntan.kleks.org (known suntan.kleks.org [192.150.241.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA13658; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:37:24 -0500 (EST) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.kleks.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) id UAA01767; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:35:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803280135.UAA01767@suntan.kleks.org> Subject: Re: Directions to Safeway on River Road To: Todd.B.Peer@XXXXXX (Todd Peer) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:35:40 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <19980327143755.KAD13104@[166.41.242.141]> from "Todd Peer" at Mar 27, 98 09:24:00 am Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > If I'm wrong about this folks (Tom?), let me know. > > Tom Gimer suggested we all be there by 10:30am, so I'll see you there. > > Todd > I will be leaving Ashburn about 09:30, heading East to Safeway. I plan on taking Rt 7 east, then 193 ( Georgetown Pike), I-495 to cross Potomac, and to Safeway. If anyone want to join on the way, we can meet on Rt 7 & 28, 7 & Draneswille, 7 & 193 - or let me know directly where. Are we going to meet with the group which start from Point of Rocks ? Would be nice to get together in Harpers ferry and do a short run through VA. _zjt PS; look for a black bike, tankbag, white helmet, wide grin and fear in the eyes... ; I still have 30 day tags.. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 20:39:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA26259; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:39:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA20074; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org (known m-net.arbornet.org [209.142.209.161]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA13695; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 20:38:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id GAA12495 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:17:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 06:17:32 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: DC Moto meters.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My mailbox got purged.. someone care to be so kind and forward me the motorcycle meters in DC again? Much thanks.. Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - 85 XT250 (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 21:35:46 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA26724; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:35:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA20433; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:34:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org (known guest.m-net.arbornet.org [209.142.209.161]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA14519; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:34:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bmccoy@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.8.5/8.8.6) with SMTP id DAA09635 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 03:12:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 03:12:52 -0500 (EST) From: Brian McCoy To: DC-Cycles list Subject: the return... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You balance your weight on your left leg, right foot resting on a lever, knee bent at a 90degree angle.. with a sudden shift in weigh, you push down with your weight and some kick feeling the lever pulse a little bit along the way. As your foot comes to the bottom of the arc, a thumping roar comes to live and lights begin to glow infront of you on the dash. You let your foot slip off the lever, keeping your leg held out to the side as the kick-starter snaps back into it's normal resting place. Well, I'm back on 2 wheels - though it's not something I'm going to be taking for trips much longer than 10 miles or so. What, with a top speed of 65 or so, I think I'll stick to riding to work and the gym for now. I bought the Yamaha XT250 that was posted on here about a week ago - it's in ok shape, I suspect that because it's spring I had to pay way more than I should have - but it was cheap, and I don't have to DRIVE the cage anymore. Anyone out there have salvaged XT stuff, or know where I might find some localy? Dumb things like a tripmeter reset knob, and the rack for over the rear fender - side cover for the left side.. etc... Brian P. McCoy - 92/94 RS125 (race) - 85 XT250 (street) bmccoy@XXXXXX (work) (301)210-8000 x 2155 (work) bmccoy@XXXXXX (personal) (301)445-4451 (home) 83 CB1100f RIP - 86 VF500f RIP- next? www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Mar 27 22:28:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA27218; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA20665; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:27:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (known dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA15269; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 22:27:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA04154 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 21:26:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv3-46.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.110) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma004143; Fri Mar 27 21:26:28 1998 Message-ID: <351C40E7.1C12@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 16:14:31 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Just in case when you're in the Panhandle area Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, everybody have a good ride this weekend, I am jealous and wish I could make it, but unfortunately my daughter is not yet big enough to ride on the pillion and the wife is working this weekend. Now on to the real point of the message. I know many of you on the list ride out into the Harpers Ferry/Winchester/eastern Panhandle area frequently, for example, tomorrows ride, or out to Summit Point and that can be a bit of a distance from parts of the DC Metro area. Anyway since I actually live out this way, about 10 minutes west of Summit Point, I just want to post my home phone and pager number should any of you need, in the worst case some help, or if your out this way and just want a place to rest for a few, or some directions ;) ( Sometimes there may be beer and/or cigars available) and there is always cold water and hot coffee, ;). I at the least always have a toolbox available anyway. Guess its sort of the DC-Cycles version of the AMA helping Hands program. Since I only have one phone line , I keep the pager by the computer when I am home so if the home phone were busy, or you get the machine, just ring the pager. Its a local call from the Eastern Panhandle. Not only that but since my wife works weekends every other month, that means I am stuck at home every other month, and I would never pass up an opportunity to talk bikes;). Hopefully we will never need to do anything like this in a real emergency but I just wanted to make it available. My worst bike wreck took place in Loudoun county several years ago, when I highsided and fortunately for me, a friend who rides lived nearby and was able to help out in more ways than one. Enjoy the weekend and ride safe. Home 304-229-9170 Pager 304-271-1049 -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 28 02:03:48 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA29253; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 02:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA23281; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 02:02:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA17435; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 02:02:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.50] (unverified [207.226.128.50]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 02:01:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Motorcycle maintenance class Date: Sat, 28 Mar 98 02:03:23 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "David Sward" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >If you're as ignorant of motorcycle maintenance as I (*ahem*), the >Montgomery County Department of Recreation is again offering a motorcycle >maintenance class this year. I tried three times last year, but all were >cancelled due to insufficient enrollment. The next class is on April 24 & >25 (Fri & Sat), and I (92 F2, unfortunately for sale) and my brother (78 >KZ200) are signed up. Hopefully, some more from this group can help make >it happen. If they don't have at least three or four bolts or other pieces left over after each repair, demand your money back. They are OBVIOUSLY not showing you the correct way to put things back together. ------------------------------------------------------------ -George Howell AMA#553567 ghowell@XXXXXX BMWMOA#80794 georgehowell@XXXXXX BMWRA#23411 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 28 02:03:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA29254; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 02:03:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA23277; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 02:02:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA17431; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 02:02:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.50] (unverified [207.226.128.50]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.4) with SMTP id ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 02:01:25 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Questions from the eletronically challenged Date: Sat, 28 Mar 98 02:03:18 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Thomas H. Gimer" , "Matt Elliott - DIGEX" cc: "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Battley Cycles in Gaithersburg, MD sells the Autocom systems, which have >been recommended by most of the people I have asked.....but they are >quite expensive. Not to mention that you'd have to actually part with some hard earned cash and give it to those pricks. Pardon my esperanto. ------------------------------------------------------------ -George Howell AMA#553567 ghowell@XXXXXX BMWMOA#80794 georgehowell@XXXXXX BMWRA#23411 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 28 10:05:03 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA01865; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:05:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25000; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:03:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com (known relay1.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA21010; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:03:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA26643; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:03:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351D3C59.1986@mnsinc.com> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:07:22 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles CC: hgg@XXXXXX Subject: Sunday Ride Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Seneca Rocks Loop > Anybody interested in doing the Seneca Rocks Loop Sunday? My plan is to > go out 66, pick up 55 down to Seneca Rocks, take 33 back across the > mountains, then up 340 to Front Royal. According to Delorme, it's 366 > miles round trip from Bethesda. > I probably won't be able to leave until 10. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT This sounds like fun and since I have commitments today, tomorrow would work for me. Any VA people want to go on this ride and meet somewhere along the way? Any ideas where? Harry? I'm in Arlington. Please e-mail me directly since I'm on D-mode. -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 28 15:26:08 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03969; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26017; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (known welchlink.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA24242; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-219-129.pitb.grid.net [207.205.219.129]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02861; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:24:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980328152639.006a3fa0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:26:39 -0500 To: "John C. Kozyn" From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: Sunday Ride Cc: dc-cycles In-Reply-To: <351D3C59.1986@mnsinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:07 AM 3/28/98 -0800, John C. Kozyn wrote: >> Anybody interested in doing the Seneca Rocks Loop Sunday? My plan is to >> go out 66, pick up 55 down to Seneca Rocks, take 33 back across the >> mountains, then up 340 to Front Royal. >Any VA people want to go on this ride and meet somewhere >along the way? Any ideas where? Harry? I'm in Arlington. > >Please e-mail me directly since I'm on D-mode. A decent place is the Virginia "Welcome Center" on westbound 66, a reststop with tourist info. I can't remember exactly where it is, but it's not very far past 495, shortly after the road narrows down to two lanes in each direction. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 28 17:14:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA05037; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:14:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA26465; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA25635; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:13:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-57-135.s135.tnt2.ann.erols.com [207.172.57.135]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13057; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:13:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351D7676.A51C80AF@geocities.com> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:15:18 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John C. Kozyn" CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Sunday Ride References: <3.0.1.32.19980328152639.006a3fa0@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think you're talking about the one just west of rte 28?? Big stop with tourist info and restrooms and such... about 18-20 miles maybe a bit more from 495/66 intersection. CT Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. wrote: > A decent place is the Virginia "Welcome Center" on westbound 66, a reststop > with tourist info. I can't remember exactly where it is, but it's not very > far past 495, shortly after the road narrows down to two lanes in each > direction. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 28 22:47:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA07432; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:47:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA28151; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:46:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (known imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.39]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA28598; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:46:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id 1HRMa19590 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:46:02 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:46:02 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Saturday Ride Pics! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 56 Hey everyone, I've best pics from Saturady's ride at: http://members.aol.com/eternity23/dc328.htm I went through all the trouble to get the names of everyone there, and their respective rides, but I forgot to bring the palmtop PC in the house and I'm too lazy to get it....(sorry it's late) Thanks for letting me ride along and it was nice meeting everyone! Until next time -Sean Jordan '83 VF750 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 29 01:18:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA08794; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:18:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA29408; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:17:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (known sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.250.46.50]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA00202; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from earthlink.net (ip119.washington11.dc.pub-ip.psi.net [38.30.47.119]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA24017 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:17:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <351DE800.DC278B5D@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:19:44 -0500 From: "R. K. Dow" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Off The Road Again Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is for all the off road enthusiasts on the list: The following web site advertises coast-to-coast travel off road (intentionally). http://transamtrail.com/main.htm From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 29 07:46:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA10758; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA00906; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com (known relay1.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA03624; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA05323 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:45:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351E6D76.60EF@mnsinc.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 07:49:10 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Sunday Ride Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gang, I'm on D-mode so I don't know if y'all saw that Harry bailed for the Secena Rocks loop, but I still want to ride today. I'll be at the VA Welcome Ctr on westbound I-66 between 10:15 and 10:45 if anyone wants to hook up, or I'm amenable to other plans too. It's 0750 hrs right now. Pls e-mail direct. John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 29 08:10:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA10839; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 08:10:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA01012; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 08:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (known ftp.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03809; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 08:09:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-219-220.pitb.grid.net [207.205.219.220]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA16059 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 08:09:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980329081059.0069b600@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 08:10:59 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Can't make it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Guy, Sorry, but duty calls this morning and I won't be able to go riding until around lunchtime. Consequently, I'm going to have to make a shorter ride. If anyone is interested in the Seneca Rocks loop, I'll be doing it soon, or you can check out the map on http://www.greenspun.com/harry/rides.htm . Enjoy the sun. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 29 09:24:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA11099; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01239; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:22:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (known dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04243; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA14607 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 08:22:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv3-61.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.125) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma014539; Sun Mar 29 08:21:52 1998 Message-ID: <351E2840.261@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 02:53:52 -0800 From: "Ken S." Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Winchester Indian/Polaris Victory/Moto Guzzi Open House Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thought this might be of interest, plus its a nice ride from the DC metro area. From their flyer.... Winchester Indian Motorcycle Co. Spring Open House Moto Guzzi/Polaris Victory/Indian/Enfield/Urals "See some of the greatest motorcycles made and show off your own" Saturday April 18th 10 AM to 4 PM Door Prizes! Food and Drinks! Fun for Everyone! Demo Rides! (last year I rode a 1100i Sport Guzzi, and the 97 California plus of all things an Indian made Royal Enfield ;), hope to get a chance at the Centauro and maybe even the Polaris hehe, I doubt that, but it will be nice to see one in person anyway.) Directions: Just North of Winchester Va, at Exit 321 (Clearbrook) off Interstate 81. From the South you can see the place as you get off Exit 321. From the North, WV/Md its two miles S of the WV/VA border, exit and make a left and youll run right by the store. Their number is 540-722-2688 Home Page http://www.nvim.com/cycle/index.htm They just announced that they will be this regions Polaris Victory dealer and already have the signs up. Supposed to have a Victory on display, and they are already taking orders from them. I was down there about two weeks ago, and they had already sold one. Geesh... Must be nice. Anyway if you want any further details , let me know, I like the place myself, although I have never bought a bike from them, Guzzis are just too expensive, I do get a lot of accesories from them, and its generally just a decent riders hangout. Its just a family run operation, reminds me of what all the motorcycle shops were twenty years ago. Always a place you can stop by and get a cup of coffee and shoot the breeze, as opposed to the rather sterile atmosphere of most shops today, especially the HD dealers. If anybody wants, and the weather is as nice as this weekend, I might throw some dogs on the Grill, and anybody that wants can rest at my place before the ride back, although this may be after the Open house ends at 4, as I offered to help road captain the demo rides if needed. -- Ken S. 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 29 20:05:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA16078; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA04464; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:03:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com (known relay1.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10597; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:03:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA25522 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:03:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351F1A7E.23D7@mnsinc.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:07:26 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Sunday Trip Report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gang, Well, no one joined me on Harry's initially-suggested Seneca Rock's Loop ride, which I really wanted to do, so I did it by myself today. BTW, I did wait at the VA Welcome Center until 1042 hrs in case anyone wanted to come with... Here's a brief synopsis of my ride. I slabbed it out I-66 until Rte 55 at Delaplane. I guess I could have picked up 55 at a later exit too, but I wanted off 66 ASAP. I took Rte 55 until Wardensville and had an inexpensive bite to eat at Ka-Ka-Pow (?) Family Restaurant where I joined the local denizens socializing following their religious services, since all were dressed in Sunday-goin'-to meetin' clothes. My lunch cost $5.00 including tip - CAMS take note! ;) I then proceeded along 55/28 until I got to Seneca Rocks. I decided to check out this tourist attraction and I must say, it is pretty spectacular to see this rocky outcropping. A bunch of humanoids could be seen climbing the face and crawling along the top if you used the high-powered scope provided gratis to the public. Happily, Rte 55 was almost barren of traffic and I was not slowed down too much for too long by BDC's. One nice l-o-n-g dip in the road allowed me to _really_ exceed the speed limit too - safely, of course!! My next stop was for gas in Franklin and then it was on to Rte 33! For those who have not been on this road before, it is awesome. You will love it. I was happy to be by myself in one regard, knowing I wouldn't be slowing _anyone_ down, but hey, I did OK for a white guy ;) >From that pit stop, I stayed in the Interceptor's saddle until I got to New Market (Rte 11) and since the sun was _away_ past the yardarm ;) I stopped for a nice, cold malt beverage at the Southern Restaurant - a real nice, clean and inexpensive (!) family restaurant. (I had toyed with the idea of taking Skyline Drive, but figured that hordes of cages would already be populating that roadway and further, reminded myself of the 35 mph limit there!) Then it was off to Rte 211 and I figure just about everyone knows how much fun that road can be until you get out of the mountains. Even then it was still fun too. For the rest, it was the standard 211 --> 29 --> 66 --> home. Oh BTW, here's a statistical breakdown of my trip thanks to my VF cool "Sigma Sport" BC-700 computer, which I got from REI. This one works great you guys! Total Miles: 363.75 Average Speed: 57.01 Total Time Travelled: 6:22:41 Max Mph: 99.8 2x Yellow Passes: ~8 I'd like to do this ride again. Thanks for the suggestion Harry! -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 29 20:31:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA16344; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA04543; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com (known relay1.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10798; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:29:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA26460 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:29:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351F2063.2CB@mnsinc.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:32:35 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: GW FS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: 86 Honda Goldwing for sale, Vetter fairing free > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:21:34 -0500 > From: "Rick H." > Organization: ABSnet Internet Services, Inc. - (410)-685-2000 - info@XXXXXX > Newsgroups: dc.forsale.misc > 86 Honda Goldwing Interstate for sale, needs minor work > Vetter Fairing free to good home -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 29 20:31:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA16347; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA04551; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:30:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com (known relay1.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10844; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA26531 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:30:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351F20B0.3EA@mnsinc.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:33:52 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Another Bike FS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: Honda 1989 CRX SI for sale > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:23:42 -0500 > From: "Rick H." > Organization: ABSnet Internet Services, Inc. - (410)-685-2000 - info@XXXXXX > Newsgroups: dc.forsale.misc > Honda 1989 CRX SI for sale > > Rick > rickh@XXXXXX > 301 379 7690 > 301 572 5434 -- John Kozyn "Nihil humani a me alienum puto" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 29 20:47:11 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA16473; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:47:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA04627; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:46:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (known welchlink.welch.jhu.EDU [128.220.59.78]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10957; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (Pool-207-205-218-21.pitb.grid.net [207.205.218.21]) by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA12184; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:46:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980329204755.006a578c@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:47:55 -0500 To: "John C. Kozyn" From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: Sunday Trip Report Cc: dc-cycles In-Reply-To: <351F1A7E.23D7@mnsinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" John, Sorry I missed what sounds like a great trip. I got freed up around 11:30 and did a quick 250 mile loop from Thurmont down to Harper's Ferry via Sharpsburg. What a day! Unfortunately, I was riding with a guy who just got a new bike, still with its 4k rev limit. Although the other roads were moderately populated, Harper's Ferry Road was clear end to end. My new road discovery was Thurston Road, off 270 near Urbana, exit 26. It links up with Sugarloaf Mountain Road. Now I need to figure out a route that couples this road with those around Ijamsville for a decent nearby escape. Harry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 29 21:12:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA16646; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:12:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA04738; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:11:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA11203; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-170.s170.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.170]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17004; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:11:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351EFF9D.CBF166B0@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:12:45 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." CC: "John C. Kozyn" , dc-cycles Subject: Re: Sunday Trip Report References: <3.0.1.32.19980329204755.006a578c@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harry, check out either one of the HSTA rides on my page both of them incorporate lots of roads in this area, including Thurston rd or one of the many nice ones connecting... The CAMS covered bridege ride also goes along in this area. Collin http:/www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ride.html Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. wrote: > My new road discovery was Thurston Road, off 270 near Urbana, exit 26. > It links up with Sugarloaf Mountain Road. Now I need to figure out a route > that couples this road with those around Ijamsville for a decent nearby > escape. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 29 21:14:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA16672; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA04748; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:13:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA11217; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-170.s170.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.170]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18123; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:13:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351F002D.F029B667@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:15:09 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John C. Kozyn" CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Another Bike FS References: <351F20B0.3EA@mnsinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit errr John... I'm not the biggest Honda expert or anything, but isn't the CRX one of their ugly little hatchbacks that looked like they backed into a brick wall really hard :) CT From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 29 21:20:24 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA16722; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:20:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA04796; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.mnsinc.com (known relay1.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA11287; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:19:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay.mnsinc.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29807; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:19:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351F2C2F.6F45@mnsinc.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:22:55 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thetrick@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Another Bike FS References: <3.0.5.32.19980329204256.00973a90@mail.wizard.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thetrick@XXXXXX wrote: > > i think this is a honda civic crx - the tiny hatchback they used to make - > not a bike. > > of course, its smaller than a goldwing.... ;o) Whoops! Boy is my face red :) I see "Honda" and presume it's some kind of dirt bike or something! JK (still LOL) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 29 22:11:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA17167; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:11:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA04980; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:10:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from radagast.wizard.net (known radagast.wizard.net [206.161.15.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA11829; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:10:17 -0500 (EST) From: thetrick@XXXXXX Received: from nt_thetrick (tc1-s40.wizard.net [206.161.15.70]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA25301 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:10:14 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980329220859.009695b0@mail.wizard.net> X-Sender: thetrick@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:08:59 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: beautiful day, no ride :( Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" greetings all! its days like today that REALLY make me wish i could ride already (sigh). i saw at least a dozen people out riding today on my way to and from work, and i just turned green with envy (sniff :). i think i finally have the cx500 ready to go. everything seems to work, its running fine, but i can't get it inspected b/c i don't have my license yet and thus can't ride it over to a gas station. but april 17 (the date of my msf class) is approaching fast (but not fast enough! ;) has anyone ever had a spark plug go bad? the spark plug on the right side of the cx500 died the other day. when i pulled it out and cranked the engine with the plug laying on the cylinder head, i got a spark from several points on the threads to the block (not a very strong one) but no spark across the gap. its a brand new honda plug. there is the possiblity i whacked the plug lead with the gas tank when i was taking the tank off, but there are no visible cracks on the plug. its not all covered with crud, either. and i know it was working before. another new spark plug fixed everything (made a beautiful blue spark), so its not a big deal. i'm just puzzled as to how it could happen. happy riding everyone! tom From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 30 07:52:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA22011; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:52:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA12729; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:51:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net (known loas.clark.net [168.143.0.13]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA17994; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@shell [168.143.0.8]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16211 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:51:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01082 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:51:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803301251.HAA01082@shell.clark.net> Subject: Directions to the party To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:51:25 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Todd