From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 1 12:46:31 1996 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Brian Downey" Organization: PSA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:43:30 +0000 Subject: Ducati sighting (sorta) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.20) Someone posted seeing a yellow Monster (NRL maybe?) a few days ago. Coincidentally, I noticed the following ad in the WPost today (Fri): '93 900 Super light, yellow, Pro Italia rearsets, SS brake lines. Lots of carbon fiber, Fast by Ferraci exh. Low mls, MINT. $10,500. I have no knowledge of this bike or owner, but it sure is fun to think about ... BD __________________ ===(')(') __________________bfd_____ Brian Downey "" brdowney@XXXXXX Falls Church, VA brdowney@XXXXXX '84 750 Interceptor AMA DoD#4657 exUSN 2 cool boys From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 1 16:54:37 1996 Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 16:52:43 -0500 From: Warren Weiss Subject: Daytona Bound!! To: DC Cycles Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Well, OK, I am not Daytona-bound, but I love this time of year anyway 'cuz you see the thousands of bikes and trailers with bikes headed to Motorcycling's Mecca. Definitely next year... -- ************************************************************************ Warren W. Weiss VMI '87 wweiss@XXXXXX AMA # 409056 weiss@XXXXXX Hughes Information Technology Company Ride: '85 VF700F Interceptor Upper Marlboro, MD Deus Ex Machina Think For Yourself and Question Authority Anonymous ************************************************************************ From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 1 18:23:54 1996 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 18:24:53 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: kim@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: DC Cycles From: kim@XXXXXX (Kim Bieler) Subject: Re: Daytona Bound!! >Well, OK, I am not Daytona-bound, but I love this time of year anyway 'cuz you >see the thousands of bikes and trailers with bikes headed to Motorcycling's >Mecca. > Yeah, I saw a couple of Winebagos pulling Harleys last night on I-95. Like my roommate commented: "Houses pulling couches". God forbid they should actually RIDE them down. Wouldn't want to get dirt on the investment, I guess. I don't want to start a "flame war" or anything... Actually I love seeing bikes on the road, even if they're being pulled. But you gotta admit, you don't see too many Harley riders in the rain, for example. ------------------------ Kim Bieler American Writing Corp. Washington, DC kim@XXXXXX '80 CB650 '90 FZR600 ------------------------ From dc-cycles-request Sun Mar 3 13:39:59 1996 Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 10:39:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Justin V. Laubach" Subject: boot advice To: DC Cycles MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey DC, I'm going to need to get some boots in the next 2 weeks or so for a co-op I'm doing with the police dept. (Spokane) and I'd like to get some info/advice if possible. The boots need to be all black and comfortable enough to do a good amount of walking/hiking/car-driving in, since I'll wear them all day on patrol (in a police car). Since the PD is paying for the boots(up to $70), I'd like to get some that would also be good for motorcycling. I don't know if it is possible to have a boot that is good for both riding and walking, but I'd appreciate any recs. I'd like to spend less than $75, but I could go up to $100 if I need to. I've seen some Hi-Tec that were $65 and had mostly leather, but part of the sides were a mesh-cloth type material (not gore-tex) that was "water resistant" but no "water proof". There was another pair of Hi-Tecs that were all-leather for $80-85. The boots with thinsulate and gore-tex were all around $130-150 and up. Advice? from, Justin V. Laubach (JLaubach@XXXXXX) From dc-cycles-request Sun Mar 3 17:33:56 1996 Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 14:31:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Justin V. Laubach" Subject: interesting sighting To: DC Cycles MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I just saw a little sidenote in the latest Car and Driver that talked about a recent safety development for motorcycles. Since the majority of injuries are to motorcyclists' heads, some European safety agency was working on developing airbags for motorcycles. They even showed a picture from the testing process with a moto hitting a car broadside. The airbags would go near the gas tank. I don't think they've developed anything anywhere near ready for production, but it is a bit of a humorous idea. BTW, does anyone use a radar detector on his/her motorcycle? It seems like you could put a battery powered one in the top compartment of a tank bag fairly easily and either just watch for the lights on it or attach an earplug. I don't know if the proximity to the electrical system would cause problems or if a magnetic tank bag would cause problems either. Any veteran speeders out there with advice? Justin V. Laubach (JLaubach@XXXXXX) 92 Yamaha Seca II 600 From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 4 10:21:52 1996 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:14:00 -0500 From: "Goddard, Jay" Subject: Re: Daytona Bound!! To: DC Cycles X-Mailer: Worldtalk(NetConnex V3.50c)/stream test sorry ---------- From: Kim Bieler To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Daytona Bound!! Date: Friday, March 01, 1996 6:57PM >Well, OK, I am not Daytona-bound, but I love this time of year anyway 'cuz you >see the thousands of bikes and trailers with bikes headed to Motorcycling's >Mecca. > Yeah, I saw a couple of Winebagos pulling Harleys last night on I-95. Like my roommate commented: "Houses pulling couches". God forbid they should actually RIDE them down. Wouldn't want to get dirt on the investment, I guess. I don't want to start a "flame war" or anything... Actually I love seeing bikes on the road, even if they're being pulled. But you gotta admit, you don't see too many Harley riders in the rain, for example. ------------------------ Kim Bieler American Writing Corp. Washington, DC kim@XXXXXX '80 CB650 '90 FZR600 ------------------------ From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 4 10:46:37 1996 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:46:20 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman X-Sender: morris@geni34 To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Daytona Bound!! In-Reply-To: <199603041521.KAA28855@mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > From: Kim Bieler > To: DC Cycles > Subject: Re: Daytona Bound!! > Date: Friday, March 01, 1996 6:57PM ..stuff deleted... > I don't want to start a "flame war" or anything... Actually I love seeing > bikes on the road, even > if they're being pulled. But you gotta admit, you don't see too many Harley > riders in the rain, for > example. > Not to continue a flame war, but... Last year after RCR, I was at the gas station in Thurmont along with a whole slew of Harley's and we were all gassing up to go ridin' in the rain. I then proceded to pass several groups of Harley's ridin' in the rain. -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, morris@XXXXXX, http://lamp0.arl.mil:8080/~morris MSB, PFD, WTD, ARL <-- Obviously a Government Employee Yamaha XJ550M [Yorick] (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 4 11:16:54 1996 From: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 11:16:22 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Daytona Bound!! In a message dated 96-03-04 11:09:15 EST, morris@XXXXXX (Morris Berman) writes: >> I don't want to start a "flame war" or anything... Actually I love seeing >> bikes on the road, even >> if they're being pulled. But you gotta admit, you don't see too many Harley >> riders in the rain, for >> example. >> I was in a torrential downpour last summer riding up 15 to northern PA. I pulled in for gas and a few minutes later a late model HD pulled in. Rider was a 65 year old woman; only other bike I saw all day on a six hour trip. She said: "I guess we are the only 2 nuts in the world". Steve R65 From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 4 11:46:18 1996 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:45:44 -0800 X-Sender: nranone2@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: nranone2@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) Subject: Bike trailer rental? I need to rent a two bike trailer for 10 days in April. Does anyone know a good place to rent one? Would it be cheaper to just buy one? Nick From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 4 12:31:52 1996 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 12:31:48 -0500 X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Bike trailer rental? >I need to rent a two bike trailer for 10 days in April. Does anyone know a >good place to rent one? Would it be cheaper to just buy one? I have a trailer. It will carry two bikes. How far are you going with it? Would you like to rent mine? If you're only going to use it for this one trip, it will be much cheaper to rent one. If you have a place to store a trailer (without having to pay or be otherwise inconvenienced), and you will use it twice or more per year, for a few years it will make sense to buy one. Leon. mrider@XXXXXX begeman@XXXXXX 1983 Honda CX650C 124Kmiles 1983 Honda GL650I 69Kmiles 1978 Honda CB400A 16Kmiles From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 4 13:30:09 1996 From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Date: 4 Mar 96 13:27:31 -0500 To: mrider@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike trailer rental? In-Reply-To: <199603041731.MAA10611@server1.illuminet.net> > X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > >I need to rent a two bike trailer for 10 days in April. Does anyone know a > >good place to rent one? Would it be cheaper to just buy one? > > I have a trailer. It will carry two bikes. How far are you going with it? > Would you like to rent mine? > > If you're only going to use it for this one trip, it will be much cheaper to > rent one. If you have a place to store a trailer (without having to pay or > be otherwise inconvenienced), and you will use it twice or more per year, > for a few years it will make sense to buy one. > > Leon. mrider@XXXXXX begeman@XXXXXX > 1983 Honda CX650C 124Kmiles 1983 Honda GL650I 69Kmiles > 1978 Honda CB400A 16Kmiles > > ..I've also rented a small U-Haul trailer (enclosed like the kind you move small furniture with) and just tied the bike down inside...it had the added benefit of no one being able to see what's inside and kept the bike out fo the weather. Also when I was at my destination, I just turned it in. cheers, -aki From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 08:13:14 1996 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 96 08:11:16 EST From: "Mike DiTullio Loral FSC (609-272-2088)" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: moto shops in dc area I'm down in rockville for the week, as opposed to my usual AC hangout. I think I'd like to stop in at coleman power sports and the other cycle shop, the one that has the sign saying don't mention coleman in my store. Can someone send me the name of the second store as well as direction to the 2 of them. Thx. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Mike DiTullio |All opinions are my own, and I have | |ditullio@XXXXXX |thousands of them to donate...ask me. | |spazman@XXXXXX |Atlantic City, NJ | |1-800-AMA-JOIN |87 VW-GTI, 89 Hawk-GT, 95 ST1100 STOC# 105 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 09:13:37 1996 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 96 09:14:37 EST From: acoope00@XXXXXX (Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington ) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Not Coleman Comment: I would recommend that you check in at Myers Cycle in Kensington, MD. They are at 10529 Summit Avenue, which is near Connecticut Avenue. Call them at 301/897-0050 for directions. Good luck and enjoy! =Drew Cooper ---------------------- FORWARDED MESSAGE ---------------------- >From: Mike DiTullio L Internet I'm down in rockville for the week, as opposed to my usual AC hangout. I think I'd like to stop in at coleman power sports and the other cycle shop, the one that has the sign saying don't mention coleman in my store. Can someone send me the name of the second store as well as direction to the 2 of them. Thx. ------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------- |Mike DiTullio |All opinions are my own, and I have | |ditullio@XXXXXX |thousands of them to donate...ask me. | |spazman@XXXXXX |Atlantic City, NJ | |1-800-AMA-JOIN |87 VW-GTI, 89 Hawk-GT, 95 ST1100 STOC# 105 | ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------- ************************************************************ Senders Internet Address dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX ************************************************************ *=========== END ==========* From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 09:26:13 1996 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 07:26:58 -0700 From: Barry Kaplan Organization: The Dalmatian Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please unsubscribe me from this list. Thanks. -- Barry Kaplan The Dalmatian Group bkaplan@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 09:49:25 1996 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:49:10 -0500 (EST) From: Marasco Newton Group To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Not Coleman In-Reply-To: <9603051414.AA01321@ad0.reach.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I like the guys at Myers Cycle also (Steve-head mechanic & John-sales) but if you are going for the purpose of browsing through racks of apparel and accessories I would say that Myers is not the place to go. They can order anything you want but don't have a very large onsite selection. Cycles USA (Aspen Hill @ intersection of Georgia and Connecticut) has quite a bit more stuff and I've found them real nice and willing to strike deals. Rockville Harley (Battley Cycle) has tons of stuff but their customer relations are not tops. BTW, they sell Ducati, Bimota, Yamaha, BMW, and Triumph also so don't be deceived by their name. If you just want to shoot the bull or need service, by all means go to Myers. Bryndyn email: mng@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." CB-1, RZ350 On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington wrote: > Comment: I would recommend that you check in at Myers Cycle > in Kensington, MD. They are at 10529 Summit Avenue, which is > near Connecticut Avenue. Call them at 301/897-0050 for directions. > Good luck and enjoy! > =Drew Cooper > > ---------------------- FORWARDED MESSAGE ---------------------- > > >From: Mike DiTullio L Internet > > > I'm down in rockville for the week, as opposed to my usual AC > hangout. I think I'd like to stop in at coleman power sports and > the other cycle shop, the one that has the sign saying don't > mention coleman in my store. Can someone send me the name of the > second store as well as direction to the 2 of them. > From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 09:51:16 1996 X-Sender: mackinto@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 09:51:06 -0400 To: ditullio@XXXXXX From: David Mackintosh Subject: Re: moto shops in dc area, Horns Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX At 08:11 AM 3/5/96 EST, you wrote: >I'm down in rockville for the week, as opposed to my usual AC hangout. I think >I'd like to stop in at coleman power sports and the other cycle shop, the one >that has the sign saying don't mention coleman in my store. Can someone send >me the name of the second store as well as direction to the 2 of them. Do you have your Hawk with you? I'm nearby and commute past Rockville. Going to Fairfax for Coleman is only worthwhile if you haven't seen all the new Japanese bikes. You should try to get out to Battley Cycles (Rockville Harley-Davidson, 7830 Airpark Rd., (301) 948-4581) in the Gaithersburg Airpark if you want to see Ducati, Bimota (2 Tesis!), BMW, and Triumph bikes (also Yamaha). Tell Tom Buzas I sent you. The "other" shop is Riders Accessory Warehouse, 132 W. Jefferson St., (703) 241-0733. Call for directions, and tell Art I sent you. He is closing the shop for Bike Week, so I don't know when it'll be open. His shop mostly is a small warehouse, so you may or may not want to make the trip unless there's something specific you're looking for. I just bought a "Stebel" horn kit from Art to put on my Hawk, and it's awesome! They look like Fiamms, but are supposedly louder. The two horns, wired in parallel, draw about 100W and pointed forward will have BDCs spilling coffee all over themselves. I mounted them underneath and to either side of the headlamp, with 12ga wires running to the battery and switched by a 30A fuse (included). The cost was about $38, plus miscellaneous wires, fuse, connectors, etc. An easy, and rewarding project. David Mackintosh O- Germantown, MD, USA '82 245 Turbo WVC #M141 mackinto@XXXXXX '89 Honda Hawk GT RC31 DoD #1360 From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 10:04:19 1996 X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 10:04:11 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: moto shops in dc area, Horns At 09:51 AM 3/5/96 -0400, David Mackintosh wrote: >You should try to get out to Battley Cycles (Rockville >Harley-Davidson, 7830 Airpark Rd., (301) 948-4581) in the Gaithersburg >Airpark if you want to see Ducati, Bimota (2 Tesis!), BMW, and Triumph bikes >(also Yamaha). Tell Tom Buzas I sent you. Also get out to cycle accessories discounters on east diamond ave. Phone number 301 977 7188. Stephen Stephen Taylor Harris http://www.his.com/~harris/index.htm From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 10:34:40 1996 Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 07:35:44 -0800 From: dimon X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Myers Cycle Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington wrote: > > Comment: I would recommend that you check in at Myers Cycle > in Kensington, MD. They are at 10529 Summit Avenue, which is > near Connecticut Avenue. Call them at 301/897-0050 for directions. > Good luck and enjoy! I'll second Drew's reccomendation. I gave Myer's all my business when I lived in Wheaton. Next time somebody goes by there tell them the guy who moved to Idaho said "Hi". By the way, Myer's sells genuine Honda and other OEM parts. They have to order most of them but their prices were a little cheaper and I liked supporting a good shop. Bruce Dimon 1989 GL1500 Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, The Land of Lakes and Lattes It's "Core duh lane, Eye duh hoe" From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 14:16:19 1996 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:17:11 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: kim@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: kim@XXXXXX (Kim Bieler) Subject: DC bike repair shop When I left work last night at 8:30 (waaah!) there was a postcard on my bike from a new bike shop called "City Cycles" at 14th and Church NW. And -- eat your hearts out Coleman, Cycles Useless, Crossroads, et al. -- they're open on Sundays! What a concept. I forgot the card at home, but if anyone wants more info, I'll post it tomorrow. ------------------------ Kim Bieler American Writing Corp. Washington, DC kim@XXXXXX '80 CB650 '90 FZR600 ------------------------ From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 15:48:25 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:48:39 -0500 To: kim@XXXXXX (Kim Bieler), dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sash@XXXXXX (Michael A. Dow) Subject: Re: DC bike repair shop At 14:17 3/5/96, Kim Bieler wrote: >they're open on Sundays! What a concept. I forgot the card at home, but if >anyone wants more info, I'll post it tomorrow. Please do! Finally, a shop open Sundays, the day after stuff usually breaks. I'm glad the shops are open again on Mondays (now that it's March). Cheers, -Sash ___________________________________________________________________ Michael A. "Sash" Dow AMA# 403971 | HRCA Member | DoD# 1808 | Ask me about the CAMS! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Present: '94 Honda VF750C Magna Past: '92 Honda CB250M Nighthawk '87 Honda Elite 150 Scooter ___________________________________________________________________ "Love is a matter of chemistry; sex is a matter of physics." From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 15:50:25 1996 Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 15:54:48 EST From: cnorloff@XXXXXX (Chris Norloff) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Need Visual Basic programmer Greetings, all. My company is looking for an experienced Visual Basic programmer. 0-2 years experience, BS or MS degree would be good, LAN experience would also be a positive. The specific immediate task is to integrate a Management Information System, composed of Windows and DOS applications (mostly Microsoft applications for Windows) in a desktop environment for inexperienced users. Motorcycle ownership and riding capability is not required, but of course, it means they're a nicer, better person. :-) Any ideas out there? thanks, Chris Norloff cnorloff@XXXXXX days(202)863-2680 From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 17:23:54 1996 Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 14:23:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Justin V. Laubach" Subject: Survey/Roster To: DC Cycles MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Any compiled results on the survey by SRFox? I'm curious to see the results. I hope it also includes everyone's e-mail address. BTW, Wouldn't it be cool to have a big DC-Cycles picnic/ride or something this summer? It would be neat to see all the bikes (and owners too). I think this would be a fun event, since the members of this list seem to be interesting and knowledgeable. from, Justin V. Laubach (JLaubach@XXXXXX) From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 18:17:23 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 18:17:46 -0500 To: ex500@XXXXXX, race@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: EX500 for sale in No. Virginia I have one EX500 for sale, and know of two others: mine: Street or Race: older EX (like 88?) mostly stock except pipe. Black frame in perfect condition, all black bodywork with no stipes, small dent in tank, some fixed cracks in fairing... but tank and fairing have leather-ette black covers, and there is a smoked screen for the headlight. Bitchin' I bought the bike w/blown engine and installed (ok, will install) a perfectly good stock engine that I have. Good, stock bike for street or race. I will prep for either in the next two weeks. I'll take $1600 if it goes soon, once I assemble and put it in the paper I'll ask for $2000. I know of two others that are race only (salvage titles or something). One is near stock but for a pipe and jet kit and has AN UNDERCUT TRANNY!! I assembled and have ridden this bike and it runs great. He also has a trailer available; about $1800. I will sell this bike for the owner, as he owes me money. I live in Falls Church, VA., and will be in Daytona until next week. I'll answer email when I return. thank you for your support. rich ps- really cool 65hp EX with F2 wheels also available, $3500 or $4000 with a truckload of spares. From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 21:01:31 1996 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 21:00:43 -0500 (EST) From: my own worst nightmare To: Kim Bieler cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC bike repair shop In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Kim Bieler wrote: > When I left work last night at 8:30 (waaah!) there was a postcard on my > bike from a new bike shop called "City Cycles" at 14th and Church NW. And > -- eat your hearts out Coleman, Cycles Useless, Crossroads, et al. -- > they're open on Sundays! What a concept. I forgot the card at home, but if > anyone wants more info, I'll post it tomorrow. not so unusual... i work for honda east yamaha in northern DE, and we've been open 7/week for the last 10 years... not so far away from balt/dc... just a thought. :) no advertising here, but if anyone needs anything, email me. i'm a parts-type guy. seth From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 21:30:33 1996 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 21:30:22 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Teitel To: "Justin V. Laubach" cc: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Survey/Roster In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Justin V. Laubach wrote: > BTW, Wouldn't it be cool to have a big DC-Cycles picnic/ride or something > this summer? It would be neat to see all the bikes (and owners too). I The planning for Right Coast Ride (RCR) V is taking place on the East List. Jeff T. ============================================================================ Keep the Rubber Side Down jteitel@XXXXXX '92 Seca II DoD#1365 From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 21:42:49 1996 From: alauro@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: nranone2@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike trailer rental? Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 02:43:54 GMT In-Reply-To: <199603041645.IAA22769@ix12.ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 On Mon, 4 Mar 1996 08:45:44 -0800, Nick Ranone wrote: >I need to rent a two bike trailer for 10 days in April. Does anyone know a good >place to rent one? Would it be cheaper to just buy one? >Nick Along a similar line... does anyone have any recommendation for trailers to buy, or places to buy one? I'm looking for a trailer that will handle NJ Turnpike style highway speeds (i.e. drive more than 55 mph or get killed! ). Anita From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 23:32:24 1996 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 23:23:59 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: interesting sighting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Justin, I don't think most people in the DC area use radar detectors because they're illegal in VA.If you do use one,be real carefull. The official BuellBoy genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX Buell S2 Thunder(un)bolt GATB#1121 "Most problems in life can be fixed with a chainsaw." Bill D. Cat "But pessimism IS realism!" D.L.Bahr "Auto-Darwin the ignorant." D. Sorenson On Sun, 3 Mar 1996, Justin V. Laubach wrote: > BTW, > does anyone use a radar detector on his/her motorcycle? It seems like > you could put a battery powered one in the top compartment of a tank bag > fairly easily and either just watch for the lights on it or attach an > earplug. I don't know if the proximity to the electrical system would > cause problems or if a magnetic tank bag would cause problems either. > Any veteran speeders out there with advice? > > Justin V. Laubach > (JLaubach@XXXXXX) > 92 Yamaha Seca II 600 From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 5 23:38:38 1996 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 23:29:56 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Not Coleman To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I bought my Buell from Rockville/Battley.I don't think very much of their service dept,but the salesman I delt with(Alan Shoup) seemed ok. He gave me a Beemer demo for a loaner when my bike was in for it's initial service and then lent me their Buell demo when mine was in for the recall. How many dealers do you know of that will give you a loaner? The official BuellBoy genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX Buell S2 Thunder(un)bolt GATB#1121 "Most problems in life can be fixed with a chainsaw." Bill D. Cat "But pessimism IS realism!" D.L.Bahr "Auto-Darwin the ignorant." D. Sorenson On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Marasco Newton Group wrote: > I like the guys at Myers Cycle also (Steve-head mechanic & John-sales) but > if you are going for the purpose of browsing through racks of apparel and > accessories I would say that Myers is not the place to go. They can order > anything you want but don't have a very large onsite selection. Cycles > USA (Aspen Hill @ intersection of Georgia and Connecticut) has quite a bit > more stuff and I've found them real nice and willing to strike deals. > Rockville Harley (Battley Cycle) has tons of stuff but their customer > relations are not tops. BTW, they sell Ducati, Bimota, Yamaha, BMW, and > Triumph also so don't be deceived by their name. If you just want to shoot > the bull or need service, by all means go to Myers. > > Bryndyn email: mng@XXXXXX > "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." > CB-1, RZ350 > > On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington wrote: > > > Comment: I would recommend that you check in at Myers Cycle > > in Kensington, MD. They are at 10529 Summit Avenue, which is > > near Connecticut Avenue. Call them at 301/897-0050 for directions. > > Good luck and enjoy! > > =Drew Cooper > > > > ---------------------- FORWARDED MESSAGE ---------------------- > > > > >From: Mike DiTullio L Internet > > > > > > I'm down in rockville for the week, as opposed to my usual AC > > hangout. I think I'd like to stop in at coleman power sports and > > the other cycle shop, the one that has the sign saying don't > > mention coleman in my store. Can someone send me the name of the > > second store as well as direction to the 2 of them. > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 07:19:52 1996 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 07:14:27 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Rolling Thunder To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, Is anybody planning on going to Rolling Thunder this year?What is the date? The official BuellBoy genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX Buell S2 Thunder(un)bolt GATB#1121 "Most problems in life can be fixed with a chainsaw." Bill D. Cat "But pessimism IS realism!" D.L.Bahr "Auto-Darwin the ignorant." D. Sorenson From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 07:57:44 1996 From: "Osidach, Vera Z." To: "'dc cycles - all'" Subject: RE: Rolling Thunder Date: Wed, 06 Mar 96 07:52:00 EST Encoding: 21 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Rolling Thunder is always on the Sunday of Memorial Day Weekend, which would make it May 26 this year. There are a lot of local dealerships and clubs that have organized rides in the early AM out to the Pentagon, with HD of Washington being the only one w/police escort -- they leave at 9am. The Pentagon parking lot usually starts emptying around (jeez, I can't remember) maybe 10am, BUT it takes several hours for the entire lot to empty, so if you get there anytime between 10am - 1pm you'll still get to ride in the 'parade'. (However, if it rains, then the parking lot empties much quicker, since there will be only about 200 Hondas or Kaws there. You won't really see too many Harleys in the rain. %-)) Oh, yeah - I'm riding; I ride every year. -Vo '93 XLH 1200 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Hi all, Is anybody planning on going to Rolling Thunder this year?What is the date? The official BuellBoy genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX Buell S2 Thunder(un)bolt GATB#1121 From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 09:17:53 1996 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:18:55 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: kim@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: kim@XXXXXX (Kim Bieler) Subject: Info on City Cycles As promised, here's the info on City Cycles: 1455 Church Street, NW (Between P&Q) 202.234.5200 fax: 234.6089 Hours: M-F 10-6 Sat 10-5 Sun 12-5 You don't have to tell anyone I sent you cause I've never been there yet. ------------------------ Kim Bieler American Writing Corp. Washington, DC kim@XXXXXX '80 CB650 '90 FZR600 ------------------------ From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 09:43:16 1996 From: "skip farmer" Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:44:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Gil M. Nissley" "Re: interesting sighting" (Mar 5, 11:23pm) X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.1 10apr95 MediaMail) To: "Gil M. Nissley" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: interesting sighting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii P.S. Radar detectors are also illegal in DC. Skip '87 Suzuki GS450 From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 09:47:43 1996 From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Date: 6 Mar 96 09:45:18 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Rolling Thunder In-Reply-To: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Hi all, > Is anybody planning on going to Rolling Thunder this year?What is > the date? > > > The official BuellBoy genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX Buell S2 Thunder(un)bolt GATB#1121 > > "Most problems in life can be fixed with a chainsaw." Bill D. Cat > > "But pessimism IS realism!" D.L.Bahr > > "Auto-Darwin the ignorant." D. Sorenson > > > ..I always thought that RT was more geared towards the Harley crowd. Haven't ridden it myself..isn't that the same ride around the Viet Nam Veterans Memorial? All I ever really see in that are harleys..harleys... harleys...hmmm...maybe riding a Magna is hazardous to ones health on those rides! Time to put more money in my savings pot for that '98 Softtail Custom! :-) Comments? cheers, -aki From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 09:54:42 1996 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 96 09:52:17 -0500 From: Richard Clark To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Adjusting Valves on Honda 750 Figured I'd share a bit of information I've figured out over the last year... On adjusting valves for an 83 Honda 750 Magna: (750, 4 cyl, 4 valves per cyl, 4 cams, water-cooled)) I've been having some trouble with a set of noisy valves on my bike since I got it (OK, just since last year)... But for me, if it isn't *perfect*, it's not not good enough! If I left them noisy (adjusted to 5 thou without using the valve tool to pull up on the cam), then the bike ran fine, but I could just *feel* the wear and tear and it was really irritating to be seen *and* heard... (clackety clackety clackety). If I made them quiet, by adjusting to 5 thou while using the valve tool to pull up on the cam, then it idled funny cuz the rockers never quite let the valves close all the way... So I putzed, and putzed, and putzed, and finally figured out... Standard procedure is to use *two* feeler gauges at the same time while adjusting each rocker. In theory, this makes sure that each valve is opened the same as its partner. In practice, it seems to ensure that the valves are adjusted with the rocker twisted on its shaft. So it actually results in one valve being tighter than the other while the bike is running. Proper procedure *should* be to adjust each side of the rocker independently, and *then* use both feelers to see what the result is: can you get two 5's in? Or 2 4s? and then maybe up the individual sides to get the desired pair clearance. This insures that the final result is consistent with the rocker being centered (not twisted) on its shaft. Result is that both valves will have the same clearance while the bike is running. Also not mentioned anywhere, is what to do about valve sets that get held open when the valve tool is released. (The valve tool pulls up on the camshaft to hold it up against the cam holder, at its maximum possible distance from the rocker). In theory, the cam is being pulled down too far onto the rockers when the bike is not running (by the cam chain). Using the valve tool, the idea is to pull the cam up to where it would float while running. In practice however, pulling the cam to the top of its holder seems to pull it *too* far. This can result in valves that never get completely closed. This is bad! The procedure to get around this problem, is to adjust the valves *while* using the valve tool, then let the cam free and measure the clearance. If you've got at least 2 thou, you're done. If you've got less than 2 thou, leave the adjustment tool off and adjust the buggers to 2 thou. Keep in mind though, that too much of a difference in measurements between with and without the valve tool probably means that the cam is too loose in the cam holder, and either the holder or cam or both should be replaced... I'd venture a guess that if you adjust to 2 thou without the tool, then use the tool and measure more than 10 thou, you've got a problem... I managed to tighten up my noisiest set by removing the cam holder and finding (and subsequently removing) a bit of crud on the mating surface that was preventing the holder from seating completely flat. Now, in theory, I won't be having to do the dang things again for a looong time! :) I'm not a mechanic by trade... I just like to putz! Richard H. Clark richard@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 11:05:16 1996 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:05:10 -0500 (EST) From: Marasco Newton Group To: DC CYCLIST Subject: Crow Bar makes Motorcyclist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Check out April's Motorcyclist for a one-pager on DC's own "Crow Bar", which claims to be Washington's only motorcycle friendly bar. Anybody been there? Sounds interesting. Still, the thought of going to a bar on my motorcycle and having a beer, even if only one, doesn't sit well with me. Of course, I could always get a soda I guess. Bryndyn email: mng@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." CB-1, RZ350 From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 11:29:29 1996 From: "Osidach, Vera Z." To: "'dc cycles - all'" Cc: "'aki'" Subject: RE: Rolling Thunder Date: Wed, 06 Mar 96 11:23:00 EST Encoding: 6 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 All bikes are welcome on Rolling Thunder. It's a ride to honor and remember our Vets. 'Nuff said. Hope to see you there, aki. -Vo '93 XLH 1200 (Oh, yeah -- Sportsters are MUCH better than Softails, anyday!! ;)) From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 11:42:31 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:42:49 -0500 To: aki.damme@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sash@XXXXXX (Michael A. Dow) Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder At 9:45 3/6/96, aki.damme@XXXXXX wrote: >..I always thought that RT was more geared towards the Harley crowd. >Haven't ridden it myself..isn't that the same ride around the Viet Nam >Veterans Memorial? All I ever really see in that are >harleys..harleys... >harleys...hmmm...maybe riding a Magna is hazardous to ones health >on those rides! Time to put more money in my savings pot for >that '98 Softtail Custom! :-) > >Comments? RT is perhaps the ONLY event where people (ie Harley riders) don't give a damn what you ride. I rode my '94 Magna last year, and while we were forming up (took about 4 hours) I got a lot of compliments on my "Harley", as well as compliments and questions about it from Harley riders themselves. Additionally, there are all manner of strange machines, besides Harleys, including 'wing trikes, those Ford V8 trikes, and other things beyond description. RT is a pretty intense ride, or at least it was for me. Especially close to the Wall, where people lined up on Constitution Ave, one line of folks on the double yellow, and the other on the broken white of the same lane! Very cool. -Sash ___________________________________________________________________ Michael A. "Sash" Dow AMA# 403971 | HRCA Member | DoD# 1808 | Ask me about the CAMS! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Present: '94 Honda VF750C Magna Past: '92 Honda CB250M Nighthawk '87 Honda Elite 150 Scooter ___________________________________________________________________ "Love is a matter of chemistry; sex is a matter of physics." From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 11:45:37 1996 From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Date: 6 Mar 96 11:42:57 -0500 To: vzo1@XXXXXX Cc: aki.damme@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Rolling Thunder In-Reply-To: <313D3F54@SmtpOut.em.cdc.gov> > Encoding: 6 TEXT > X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 > Content-Length: 219 > > > All bikes are welcome on Rolling Thunder. It's a ride to honor and remember > our Vets. 'Nuff said. > > Hope to see you there, aki. -Vo '93 XLH 1200 > (Oh, yeah -- Sportsters are MUCH better than Softails, anyday!! ;)) > ...hope to be there also!...being a vet myself (as well as my dad), it's always an event that I've wanted to attend. cheers, -aki From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 11:49:11 1996 From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Date: 6 Mar 96 11:45:56 -0500 To: mng@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Crow Bar makes Motorcyclist In-Reply-To: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > Check out April's Motorcyclist for a one-pager on DC's own "Crow Bar", > which claims to be Washington's only motorcycle friendly bar. Anybody > been there? Sounds interesting. Still, the thought of going to a bar on > my motorcycle and having a beer, even if only one, doesn't sit well > with me. Of course, I could always get a soda I guess. > > Bryndyn email: mng@XXXXXX > "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." > CB-1, RZ350 > if it's the same Crow Bar off of K st in NW, been there..nothing special but a friendly atmosphere...one problem is parking though...not much around..(then again, that's fairly typical for that area of DC). cheers, -aki From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 11:49:51 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:50:07 -0500 To: Marasco Newton Group , DC CYCLIST From: sash@XXXXXX (Michael A. Dow) Subject: Re: Crow Bar makes Motorcyclist At 11:05 3/6/96, Marasco Newton Group wrote: >Check out April's Motorcyclist for a one-pager on DC's own "Crow Bar", >which claims to be Washington's only motorcycle friendly bar. Anybody >been there? Sounds interesting. Still, the thought of going to a bar on >my motorcycle and having a beer, even if only one, doesn't sit well >with me. Of course, I could always get a soda I guess. I used to go there when I was at GW. There were always bikes parked out front, but the bikers inside weren't readily apparent. All I can (hazily) remember is college kids playing pool and drinking "Crow Beer," which I can highly recommend. $3/pint. Good stuff. Of course I never rode to the bar (I lived within stumbling distance). -Sash ___________________________________________________________________ Michael A. "Sash" Dow AMA# 403971 | HRCA Member | DoD# 1808 | Ask me about the CAMS! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Present: '94 Honda VF750C Magna Past: '92 Honda CB250M Nighthawk '87 Honda Elite 150 Scooter ___________________________________________________________________ "Love is a matter of chemistry; sex is a matter of physics." From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 11:50:03 1996 From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Date: 6 Mar 96 11:47:56 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder In-Reply-To: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > At 9:45 3/6/96, aki.damme@XXXXXX wrote: > >..I always thought that RT was more geared towards the Harley crowd. > >Haven't ridden it myself..isn't that the same ride around the Viet Nam > >Veterans Memorial? All I ever really see in that are > >harleys..harleys... > >harleys...hmmm...maybe riding a Magna is hazardous to ones health > >on those rides! Time to put more money in my savings pot for > >that '98 Softtail Custom! :-) > > > >Comments? > > RT is perhaps the ONLY event where people (ie Harley riders) don't give a > damn what you ride. I rode my '94 Magna last year, and while we were > forming up (took about 4 hours) I got a lot of compliments on my "Harley", > as well as compliments and questions about it from Harley riders > themselves. > > Additionally, there are all manner of strange machines, besides Harleys, > including 'wing trikes, those Ford V8 trikes, and other things beyond > description. > > RT is a pretty intense ride, or at least it was for me. Especially close to > the Wall, where people lined up on Constitution Ave, one line of folks on > the double yellow, and the other on the broken white of the same lane! Very > cool. > > -Sash > ..well that clinches it...I'm riding this year...providing I'm not out of town on business (have been for the past 3 friggin years...)... cheers, -aki From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 12:10:49 1996 From: THOMASONCO@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:10:17 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Radar Detectors In a message dated 96-03-05 23:49:30 EST, you write: > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > FYI - Radar detectors are not legal in VA or DC. However, in Loudoun County the law is equiped with radar detector detectors. Just having your unit powered on will shout your ownership to them. It's a $58 fine (two years ago) just having it powered on. The only thing you can do is to own a no detectable unit. Older model don't have a chance. PS. Living in Sugarland Run for 15 years I can attest that Sterling Blvd (Rt 7 to Rt 28) and Rt 7, from the college to Leesburg are heavy with speed traps and radar guns. Especially during weekends and off hours during the week. From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 12:21:43 1996 From: dpcook@XXXXXX (Dan Cook) Subject: Daytona Race Watch update To: thumper@XXXXXX (thumper), dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles), motolist@XXXXXX (Motolist) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:11:59 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text So I got in touch with the guy who owns the Out of Bounds, a sports bar here in Richmond. He is amenable to playing the Daytona races this coming Sunday for those of us who are unable to see them in person. He wants to know how many people might show up, so I'm asking "Who on the list(s) is likely to make it to the Richmond area this Sunday (3/10) for an afternoon of race watching and beer drinking with other like minded moto-heads?" thanks, uncle dan -- *********************************************************************** Dr. Daniel P. Cook Phone: (804)-788-7512 Reynolds Metals Company Fax: (804)-788-7557 Corporate Research and Development email: dpcook@XXXXXX 4th and Canal St. Richmond, VA 23219 *********************************************************************** From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 12:42:45 1996 From: dpcook@XXXXXX (Dan Cook) Subject: Re: Radar Detectors To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:33:09 -0500 (EST) Cc: motolist@XXXXXX (Motolist) In-Reply-To: <960306121016_239015958@mail04.mail.aol.com> from "THOMASONCO@aol.com" at Mar 6, 96 12:10:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > > In a message dated 96-03-05 23:49:30 EST, you write: > > > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > > > > FYI - Radar detectors are not legal in VA or DC. However, in Loudoun County > the law is equiped with radar detector detectors. Just having your unit > powered on will shout your ownership to them. It's a $58 fine (two years > ago) just having it powered on. The only thing you can do is to own a no > detectable unit. Older model don't have a chance. > Alright, so does anyone have experience mounting a radar detector on a sport bike, i.e. one with lots of plastic? It would seem that there would be lots of places where one could hide one of the newer detectors, which can't be detected. I'm completely unfamiliar with how radar detectors work, i.e. necessary placement, power requirements, etc. Are there any criminals out there who are willing to fess up? thanks, uncle dan -- *********************************************************************** Dr. Daniel P. Cook Phone: (804)-788-7512 Reynolds Metals Company Fax: (804)-788-7557 Corporate Research and Development email: dpcook@XXXXXX 4th and Canal St. Richmond, VA 23219 *********************************************************************** From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 12:43:13 1996 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <960306121016_239015958@mail04.mail.aol.com> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.0) From: Thomas Piergallini Date: Wed, 6 Mar 96 12:48:54 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Radar Detectors (loudon) I had this problem once in my truck in loudon (same location you mentioned). I wanted to test my new hidey-hole for my radar detector. The officer, never did find it, even after searching my car for an hour. I am sure my smug look really made his day. pierre THOMASONCO wrote: > In a message dated 96-03-05 23:49:30 EST, you write: > > >dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > > > > FYI - Radar detectors are not legal in VA or DC. However, in > Loudoun County the law is equiped with radar detector detectors. > Just having your unit powered on will shout your ownership to them. > It's a $58 fine (two years ago) just having it powered on. The only > thing you can do is to own a no detectable unit. Older model don't > have a chance. > > PS. Living in Sugarland Run for 15 years I can attest that Sterling > Blvd (Rt 7 to Rt 28) and Rt 7, from the college to Leesburg are > heavy with speed traps and radar guns. Especially during weekends > and off hours during the week. > --- Thomas Piergallini 3Com Primary Access Network Engineer EMail: pierre@XXXXXX, pierre@XXXXXX Send me NeXTmail and MIME From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 12:44:37 1996 From: "McLoone, William J." To: DC-Cycles List Subject: RE: Crow Bar makes Motorcyclist Date: Wed, 06 Mar 96 12:36:00 EST Encoding: 13 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Bryndyn says: >Check out April's Motorcyclist for a one-pager on DC's own "Crow Bar", >which claims to be Washington's only motorcycle friendly bar. Maybe we could do a DC List get together there some night when it gets warmer and check it out for ourselves. Bill McLoone '82 Susuki GS-450TXz (for Sale) '81 Yamaha XS-11H (50% mine) Burtonsville, MD USA '82 Kawasaki KZ-750E (all mine) 1-800-AMA-JOIN BK-MD I "Ride with Pride" From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 12:45:51 1996 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 12:45:37 -0500 (EST) From: TED ROBERTS Subject: Re: Crow Bar makes Motorcyclist To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-VMS-To: IN%"dc-cycles@XXXXXX" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I've been to the Crow Bar once, for an "impromptu" bachelor's party last August. Played fooooooozball til 1:00am. It's a nice place. Too bad I'm not into the bar scene. Ted. From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 12:57:06 1996 From: "skip farmer" Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:57:21 -0500 In-Reply-To: Marasco Newton Group "Crow Bar makes Motorcyclist" (Mar 6, 11:05am) X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.1 10apr95 MediaMail) To: Marasco Newton Group , DC CYCLIST Subject: Re: Crow Bar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The Crow Bar is not to bad. Parking is sometimes ok b/c bikes line up on the street and generally get a bunch of spaces right in front. I haven't had a problem with tickets (at least not there) either. Skip '87 Suzuki GS450 On Mar 6, 11:05am, Marasco Newton Group wrote: > Subject: Crow Bar makes Motorcyclist > > Check out April's Motorcyclist for a one-pager on DC's own "Crow Bar", > which claims to be Washington's only motorcycle friendly bar. Anybody > been there? Sounds interesting. Still, the thought of going to a bar on > my motorcycle and having a beer, even if only one, doesn't sit well > with me. Of course, I could always get a soda I guess. > > Bryndyn email: mng@XXXXXX > "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." > CB-1, RZ350 >-- End of excerpt from Marasco Newton Group From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 13:01:17 1996 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 13:01:18 -0500 X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Adjusting Valves on Honda 750 >But for me, if it isn't *perfect*, it's not not good enough! snip . . . >Now, in theory, I won't be having to do the dang things again for >a looong time! :) I wouldn't let 'em go too long - I've been adjusting the valves on my 650's (water cooled, pushrod, 4 valves per cyl) every 10K miles. That's about the distance they'll go before they need it. I also re-torque the heads each time. At 10Kmiles, usually one or more valves need some adjustment. It's a bother to do it, but it's easier than replacing other stuff. Leon. mrider@XXXXXX begeman@XXXXXX 1983 Honda CX650C 124Kmiles 1983 Honda GL650I 69Kmiles 1978 Honda CB400A 16Kmiles From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 13:16:59 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 13:16:59 -0500 To: "skip farmer" , Marasco Newton Group , DC CYCLIST From: sash@XXXXXX (Michael A. Dow) Subject: Re: Crow Bar At 12:57 3/6/96, skip farmer wrote: >The Crow Bar is not to bad. Parking is sometimes ok b/c bikes line up on the >street and generally get a bunch of spaces right in front. I haven't had a >problem with tickets (at least not there) either. I didn't have a problem parking in front of the Crow Bar, but I did get a BS parking ticket on my old Nhawk once when I parked in front of the Lansburough Theater downtown. They cited me for "not parking parallel" to the curb. Yeah, like I'm going to park my teeny 250 alongside the curb! Apparently, then, it is technically illegal to line your bikes up like that, but for some reason, a single rice-burner is an easier ticketing target than a line of Hogs! -Sash ___________________________________________________________________ Michael A. "Sash" Dow AMA# 403971 | HRCA Member | DoD# 1808 | Ask me about the CAMS! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Present: '94 Honda VF750C Magna Past: '92 Honda CB250M Nighthawk '87 Honda Elite 150 Scooter ___________________________________________________________________ "Love is a matter of chemistry; sex is a matter of physics." From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 13:55:24 1996 From: THOMASONCO@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 13:54:51 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Bike Week I have just returned, early, from Daytona Bike Week. This was my first time and I must tell all of you that it was pleasure. Main street, at the beach, was a mass of bikers from all over the country. Mostly HD but everything else too. The most surprising thing, with thousands of rides and folks, no where, did I see any one misbehaving. Not even any one looking for trouble. It was a chruch social. Really. Everyone was just enjoying the chrome, roar and costumes. Thousands of bikes and only one that smoked from the left side piston. Every body was in new clothes (leather and denim) and all chrome was shinny. I didn't know you could mount a 454 V8 on two wheels but there were a dozen of them, too. The sprint races at the track was also special. Watching and hearing two wheels at 165+ was fantastic. I highly recommend Bike Week. "A church social with a roar" Dallas From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 14:03:22 1996 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 96 14:01:09 -0500 From: Richard Clark To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Adjusting Valves on Honda 750 >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >From: Leon Begeman >Subject: Re: Adjusting Valves on Honda 750 >>But for me, if it isn't *perfect*, it's not not good enough! > snip . . . > >>Now, in theory, I won't be having to do the dang things again for >>a looong time! :) > >I wouldn't let 'em go too long - I've been adjusting the valves on my 650's >(water cooled, pushrod, 4 valves per cyl) every 10K miles. That's about the >distance they'll go before they need it. I also re-torque the heads each >time. At 10Kmiles, usually one or more valves need some adjustment. It's a >bother to do it, but it's easier than replacing other stuff. > Leon, Well, um, yeah... But see, whereas *you* might go 10K miles before the summers even over, it may take me a few *years*! Basically, I think we're agreeing... :) I was just so pleased with myself at finally figuring out how to adjust the buggers correctly (despite the damned manual and the mechanics) that I thought others might gain from the same knowledge... Richard From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 15:19:35 1996 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 12:13:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Justin V. Laubach" Subject: Re: Survey/Roster In-reply-to: To: Jeff Teitel Cc: DC Cycles MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Jeff Teitel wrote: > > The planning for Right Coast Ride (RCR) V is taking place on the East List. > > Jeff T. Neat. Could someone maybe post details about the RCR as they become available? I don't belong to "East" and I'd imagine there might be others interested, too. P.S.- Nice motorcycle, Jeff.... Thanks Justin 92 Yamaha Seca II 600 jlaubach@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 15:23:46 1996 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:23:12 -0800 X-Sender: nranone2@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: nranone2@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) Subject: Harley 2stroke oil question I have a 1975 HD SS250 2 stroke. The manual says to use HD 2 stroke oil. I haven't found a Harley dealer that likes to admit my 250cc is a HD, let alone carry anything for it. It has an oil tank and mixes internally. What kind of oil should I use? I hope to have it running by the time Rolling Thunder rolls around. I can't wait to see the look on the HD riders faces when I wing ding up on my little piglet. Nick From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 16:00:36 1996 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:00:17 -0500 (EST) From: Marasco Newton Group To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley 2stroke oil question In-Reply-To: <199603062023.MAA25348@ix5.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Nick Ranone wrote: > I have a 1975 HD SS250 2 stroke. The manual says to use HD 2 stroke oil. I > haven't found a Harley dealer that likes to admit my 250cc is a HD, let > alone carry anything for it. It has an oil tank and mixes internally. What > kind of oil should I use? I hope to have it running by the time Rolling > Thunder rolls around. I can't wait to see the look on the HD riders faces > when I wing ding up on my little piglet. > Nick Being a stroker myself, I would love to see your bike. And I was thinking HD didn't have a single bike that I would want to sit on. What sytle of bike is it? I use Golden Spectro. It is a semi-synthetic oil that can be used either pre-mix or through a pump system. Yamalube is also good and it is pure dino sludge. I've heard good things about Silkolene which is purely synthetic. I've heard complaints and ravings about Redline oils. There are lots of others that I could neither recommend nor warn you about. Whatever you decide on, be sure it will mix well with whatever remains in the oil tank. Take some of the HD stuff from the oil tank and mix it with the new stuff in a jar and let it sit for awhile to see if it separates. If it does, it's best to purge the oil delivery system of the old oil and then refill it with the new stuff. When you refill the purged system, make sure the lines are properly bled and will delivery oil upon startup. If it can't deliver the oil right away, you might sieze the engine. If you buy an oil that can also be used pre-mix you can be safe by putting some in the gas tank after you purge the system to insure oil delivery to the engine. Check your manual for the appropriate ratio and only do it for a 1/2 gallon, not a full tank. You only need enough to make sure the oil is being delivered through the system. BTW, what work needs to be done to it to get it running? Bryndyn email: mng@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." CB-1, RZ350 From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 16:03:24 1996 From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Date: 6 Mar 96 16:01:08 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Harley 2stroke oil question In-Reply-To: <199603062023.MAA25348@ix5.ix.netcom.com> > X-Sender: nranone2@XXXXXX > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have a 1975 HD SS250 2 stroke. The manual says to use HD 2 stroke oil. I > haven't found a Harley dealer that likes to admit my 250cc is a HD, let > alone carry anything for it. It has an oil tank and mixes internally. What > kind of oil should I use? I hope to have it running by the time Rolling > Thunder rolls around. I can't wait to see the look on the HD riders faces > when I wing ding up on my little piglet. > Nick > > probably the best bet is to call HD directly and ask them if the two stroke oil sold at most MC shops will suffice. I doubt there's any difference in quality (albiet *price* may be cheaper for the non-HD oil though). Gawd..that brings back memories of my old Honda 250 Elsinore many *MANY* moons ago...loved the bike..hated mixing the gas and oil... and was as cold natured as a bike could get. But once she was all warmed up..watch out! good luck.. -aki From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 16:21:15 1996 From: Michael Majzel To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Radar Detectors Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:05:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit P.S. Radar detectors are also illegal in DC. snip,snip Yea, so are drugs and guns....... I have been riding with a radar detector for years. I used to live in Michigan where they were legal and got spoiled. I had a Yamaha Venture and mounted one in the fairing. I made an electronic interface to turn on the instrument cluster warning light and a small beeper. I had a switch to turn off the beeper and light. I now have a newer model of the Yamaha Venture. The fairing is so full of other stuff, no room for the detector. I have a small Cincinnati Microwave Passport model. I now just Velcro it on top of the break cylinder reservoir on the handle bar. A small rubber band is used to add additional support. It is easy to remove if in a hurry. One drawback, you can not allow the detector to get wet. I had to send it back for repair once when I did. The internal light and sound indicator is enough if you are alert. This is not the best mount, but it does work. This has saved me more times then I can count. Especially on the way back and forth to the beach over the summer. Mike 88 Yamaha Venture - 63K mi. From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 16:37:27 1996 From: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:36:53 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Bike Survey Results Ok here is the first cut at the list. If I have not included your pride and joy, or have mis-represented it in any way, just send me a note and I will fix it quickly. Thanks for your responses. (if you were all on AOL I would send it as a spreadsheet). Unofficial CAMS Scooter Roster 1981 Kawasaki KZ550C2 (LTD) 1983 Honda CX650C 124Kmiles 1983 Honda GL650I 69Kmiles 1978 Honda CB400A 16Kmiles 1982 Yamaha Maxim 1984 Honda 750 Interceptor (VF750F) 1989 Honda Hawk GT 1988 Honda Hawk GT 1978 Suzuki GT380 1995 Honda CBR 900 RR 1992 Ducati900 SS 1989 Yamaha YSR 050 1971 Honda CB 750 1994 BMW K1100 LT 1989 Honda CB-1 (CB400F) 1984 Yamaha RZ350 1992 Suzuki GSX1100G 1995 Honda CB750 Nighthawk 1995 Ducati 900CR 1993 BMW K75S 1985 Honda VF700C Magna 1984 Honda Nighthawk-S 700SC 1990 Kawasaki ZX11 1982 Kawasaki KZ1100-D1 1983 Honda CB650-SC Nighthawk 1994 Yamaha XT350 1985 Kawasaki Ninja 900 1985 Honda XL350R 1982 Honda CB750F 1993 Honda CBR600F2. 1982 Yamaha XJ550 Maxim 1991 Honda ST-1100 1981 honda CB 750K 1984 honda vf 1100s 1985 Honda 700cc Magna 1980 Honda CB650C 1976 Honda CB750K - 19?? Honda CB750 1980 Kawasaki KZ440Ltd 1979 Suzuki GS425EN 1982 Suzuki GS-450TXz 1981 Yamaha XS-1100H 1982 Kawasaki KZ-750E 1994 Honda VF750C Magna 1992 Kawasaki Concours, 1985 Yamaha V-Max 1985 Yamaha V-Max 1975 Kawasaki H-2 750 1992 Yamaha Seca 750 1982 Honda CBX 1982 Suzuki GS850G 1979 Honda CX500 Custom 1976 Suzuki RE5 1975 Suzuki RE5 1975 Suzuki RE5 1972 Kawasaki H2 1992 Yamaha Seca 750 1992 Yamaha Seca II (XJ600SD). 1991 Kawasaki Ninja 500 19?? Suzuki DR650 1982 Yamaha XS400RJ Seca 1994 Yamaha Seca II 600. 1995 Buell S2 Thunderbolt 1994 Suzuki RF900RR 1974 Honda CB125 1973 Yamaha RD60 1986 Yamaha SRX-6 1993 Suzuki GSX 1100GP 1990 Kawasaki ZX-10 1988 Yamaha Venture Royal 1995 Kawasaki ZX-9R 1986 Kawasaki Concours 1995 Yamaha VMax 1995 Ducati 900SS/CR 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1984 Honda Magna From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 18:44:02 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 18:44:54 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: Crow Bar and Daytona 200 At 11:05 AM 3/6/96 -0500, Marasco Newton Group wrote: >Check out April's Motorcyclist for a one-pager on DC's own "Crow Bar", >which claims to be Washington's only motorcycle friendly bar. Anybody >been there? Sounds interesting. Still, the thought of going to a bar on >my motorcycle and having a beer, even if only one, doesn't sit well >with me. Of course, I could always get a soda I guess. The bar's owner Steve Zarpas is a race fan, hence the bike twist to the joint. They are hosting a Daytona 200 party, and will be showing the race live (I think it starts around 2pm) They will also have prizes and stuff, potentially including a tutition to my MARRC roadracing school. rich From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 18:54:37 1996 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 96 18:55:20 EST From: acoope00@XXXXXX (Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington ) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Picky picky Hey Mr. Fox -- Thanks for adding my 1990 Kawasaki ZX-10 to your list. I was very surprised to see a 1990 ZX-11 on the list, though. Perhaps a date correction is in order?? But I'm sure that I speak for many on the list in thanking you for your compilation efforts! =Drew Cooper From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 22:47:57 1996 From: "James L. Williams" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: RE: Not Coleman Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:45:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I bought my Buell from Rockville/Battley.I don't think very much=20 > of their service dept,but the salesman I delt with(Alan Shoup) seemed = ok. I haven't been following this whole thread but Rockville/Battley has a = new service manager (YT Lectner) who is also a road racer. He has a = good head for service and seems to be doing a _much_ better job then the = previous guy (who is now gone). I bring my Ducati there and have had = good results. My 2 cents Jim Williams From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 22:59:35 1996 From: "James L. Williams" To: DC CYCLIST Subject: RE: Crow Bar makes Motorcyclist Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:57:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sunday night at Back Alley (Mr Days in the alley between 18th, 19th, L = and M) is great in the summer. The front of the bar is _all_ bikes = after 10:30pm. All kinds of bikes and all kinds of riders show up. = Usually the Crow bar crowd ends up at BA after 11pm. I highly recommend = it. =20 Jim Williams AOD=20 http://monarch.butterfly.net/aod From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 23:03:51 1996 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:58:10 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Bike Survey Results To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <960306163652_161878131@mail06.mail.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Oi!Where's the Buell? It's in one piece so it should count! :-P The official BuellBoy genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX Buell S2 Thunder(un)bolt GATB#1121 "Most problems in life can be fixed with a chainsaw." Bill D. Cat "But pessimism IS realism!" D.L.Bahr "Auto-Darwin the ignorant." D. Sorenson From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 6 23:30:08 1996 X-Sender: tarjan@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 23:30:51 -0500 To: "James L. Williams" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" From: Tarjan Subject: RE: Not Coleman At 10:45 PM 3/6/96 -0500, James L. Williams wrote: >> I bought my Buell from Rockville/Battley.I don't think very much >> of their service dept,but the salesman I delt with(Alan Shoup) seemed ok. > >I haven't been following this whole thread but Rockville/Battley has a new service manager (YT Lectner) who is also a road racer. He has a good head for service and seems to be doing a _much_ better job then the previous guy (who is now gone). I bring my Ducati there and have had good results. > >My 2 cents > >Jim Williams > > I would have to agree with Jim.. YT is a great guy.. they have CallerID I guess and when I call I get "Hey Scot, Whats up?" Pretty cool.. Oh well.. Personaly I think their sales staff need a swift kick in the behind.. but for service.. YT is a good guy From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 7 08:48:01 1996 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 96 08:45:54 -0500 From: Richard Clark To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Please Add to List Hey! You missed *me*! :( Well, OK, so I never sent my bike to the list.... Please add: 1983 Honda 750 Magna Thanks! Richard H. Clark richard@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 7 12:16:54 1996 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 96 12:16:07 EST From: "Mike DiTullio Loral FSC (609-272-2088)" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: cycle shops Well, I made it out to Battley's cycles to see the bimotos. Love how they did that center hub steering. Also went out to Coleman Power Sports. I know the general opinion of that place from this group, but I HAD to see it. It's huge. I even bought some stuff. Replacement parts for my eclipse tank bag. Price was less than I could get it from eclipse and I have never seen the parts in any other store. The also have one hell of a used bike selection. Saw a Honda Turbo. Neat. I leave town today so that's if for my moto visits. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Mike DiTullio |All opinions are my own, and I have | |ditullio@XXXXXX |thousands of them to donate...ask me. | |spazman@XXXXXX |Atlantic City, NJ | |1-800-AMA-JOIN |87 VW-GTI, 89 Hawk-GT, 95 ST1100 STOC# 105 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 7 14:56:51 1996 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:56:43 -0500 (EST) From: Marasco Newton Group To: DC CYCLIST Subject: Darts at Crow Bar? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know if they have dart boards at the Crow Bar? If they do, I'll probably go there with a friend on Friday evening to check it out. Bryndyn email: mng@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." CB-1, RZ350 From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 7 15:14:46 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:14:56 -0500 To: Marasco Newton Group , DC CYCLIST From: sash@XXXXXX (Michael A. Dow) Subject: Re: Darts at Crow Bar? At 14:56 3/7/96, Marasco Newton Group wrote: >Does anyone know if they have dart boards at the Crow Bar? If they do, >I'll probably go there with a friend on Friday evening to check it out. They don't have darts, but they have pool and foosball (sp?). I'd still go for the Crowbeer, though! -Sash ___________________________________________________________________ Michael A. "Sash" Dow AMA# 403971 | HRCA Member | DoD# 1808 | Ask me about the CAMS! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Present: '94 Honda VF750C Magna Past: '92 Honda CB250M Nighthawk '87 Honda Elite 150 Scooter ___________________________________________________________________ "Love is a matter of chemistry; sex is a matter of physics." From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 7 16:57:53 1996 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:57:46 -0500 X-Sender: dale@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, st1100@XXXXXX, hsta@XXXXXX From: Dale Coyner Subject: Re: what a treat! Cc: anderson_s@XXXXXX Fellow Denizens: Thought I would pass this along to those folks on the list who might be interested in staking a little claim on immortality (by seeing their name in print ). I'm currently involved in a web-related project in which we're looking to establish a network of freelancer writers/photographers who have an interest/experience in motorcycling. We're looking for short, filler type stuff as well as longer feature articles. Our primary audience will be interested in reading articles about tours, events, profiles of interesting or famous motorcyclists, as well as timely coverage of government issues, thought pieces on our motorcycling heritage, motorcycling safety, etc. If you have an interest, please contact the editor in chief, Stephen Anderson, via e-mail at anderson_s@XXXXXX. Steve will be in Daytona until next week, so if you don't hear anything immediately, don't sweat it. Thanks and good luck! Dale From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 7 17:29:45 1996 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:29:42 -0500 X-Sender: dale@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, st1100@XXXXXX, hsta@XXXXXX From: Dale Coyner Subject: Writers Wanted Cc: anderson_s@XXXXXX Arrgh! Sorry for the double-post. I forgot to change the subject line before I sent -- am resending w/correct title so those who skim the lists might be more likely to catch it. Blame an itchy trigger finger for the foul-up. Here's the message for those who might've passed it up the first time: Fellow Denizens: Thought I would pass this along to those folks on the list who might be interested in staking a little claim on immortality (by seeing their name in print ). I'm currently involved in a web-related project in which we're looking to establish a network of freelancer writers/photographers who have an interest/experience in motorcycling. We're looking for short, filler type stuff as well as longer feature articles. Our primary audience will be interested in reading articles about tours, events, profiles of interesting or famous motorcyclists, as well as timely coverage of government issues, thought pieces on our motorcycling heritage, motorcycling safety, etc. If you have an interest, please contact the editor in chief, Stephen Anderson, via e-mail at anderson_s@XXXXXX. Steve will be in Daytona until next week, so if you don't hear anything immediately, don't sweat it. Thanks and good luck! Dale From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 8 12:16:26 1996 From: sanjay@XXXXXX Subject: looking for good mechanic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:16:17 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn3.1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit greetings, can someone please reccomend a decent mechanic close to n.w. dc.... a friend recently bought a yamaha maxim that was not winterized properly. plan to work on it this weekend, but if the carbs are really gummed up, we need to take it to a shop. ( i know my level of incompetence) thanks sanjay From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 8 15:28:59 1996 From: THOMASONCO@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:28:20 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Looking for a touring bike I'm looking for my first ride in many years. It's going to be a touring bike. At the moment I only know about the Honda ST1100, Pacific Coast and the BMW K57,K1100. These bikes, because of their show room price, are a "dream machine" at the moment. What I need to know are alternative. (New or Used) What are the names of other touring bikes? It doesn't matter the year or mfg. I can do the homework once I know what to look for. Thanks in advance, Dallas From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 8 15:52:48 1996 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:52:37 -0500 X-Sender: dale@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Dale Coyner Subject: Re: Looking for a touring bike >I'm looking for my first ride in many years. It's going to be a touring >bike. At the moment I only know about the Honda ST1100, Pacific Coast and >the BMW K57,K1100. These bikes, because of their show room price, are a >"dream machine" at the moment. What I need to know are alternative. (New or >Used) The Kawasaki Concours is another popular two-up sport-touring mount. It's comparable to the ST-1100 in terms of power/features/styling, but typically sells for a couple thou less than the ST in both new and used markets. I wanted an ST myself but choked on new prices, so I bought one in excellent condition w/30K on the odometer for about $6k. Considering the bike's just broken in good at that stage, there's a lot of riding left for the money. d. From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 8 15:53:55 1996 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 96 15:53:28 EST X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Cc: From: "Frank George" Subject: re:Looking for a touring bike ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:THOMASONCO@XXXXXX What are the names of other touring bikes? ===================================================================== Look at the Kawasaki Concours. Its a sport tourer, like the ST1100, but is geared towards the sporting end. Check out the sport touring comparison at MOTORCYCLE ONLINE (http://motorcycle.com/motorcycle.html) Or get more info. from the Concours Owners Group (http://getnet.com/~rickh/) or (http://intele.net/~bowserd/cog.html) If you can find a new one, Kawasaki is offering a $1K rebate. Used prices tend to range from $3K to $5K, depending on year and condition. As you may have already guessed, I own one ('91). Frank George fegeorge@XXXXXX fgeorge@XXXXXX Reynolds Metals Company / Corporate Engineering "opinions are mine, ... mailbox is the company's" From dc-cycles-request Sat Mar 9 19:38:10 1996 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:38:07 -0500 X-Sender: usadams@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Penny Subject: Any suggestions? Hi, My name is Penny and I am brand new to this list. My husband, Bernie, and I just got into cycling last year. Bernie ownes a KZ650 and just loves it. We have been through a motorcycle safety class and this is the only time I've actually driven a motorcycle. We have been looking for one for me, but haven't had much luck. I'd like a used cycle to start with, one in pretty good shape, but not too expensive. I'm only 5'2" and I've had a tough time finding bikes I could sit on and have my feet touch the ground. I absolutely LOVE the new Honda Shadow 600, but I'm really leery about buying a new bike right off the bat. Any suggestions about a type of bike, or source of used bikes would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Penny Penny Adams usadams@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Sat Mar 9 22:15:57 1996 X-Sender: tarjan@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 22:16:46 -0500 To: Penny , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Tarjan Subject: Re: Any suggestions? At 07:38 PM 3/9/96 -0500, Penny wrote: >Hi, > >My name is Penny and I am brand new to this list. My husband, Bernie, and I >just got into cycling last year. Bernie ownes a KZ650 and just loves it. We >have been through a motorcycle safety class and this is the only time I've >actually driven a motorcycle. We have been looking for one for me, but >haven't had much luck. I'd like a used cycle to start with, one in pretty >good shape, but not too expensive. I'm only 5'2" and I've had a tough time >finding bikes I could sit on and have my feet touch the ground. I absolutely >LOVE the new Honda Shadow 600, but I'm really leery about buying a new bike >right off the bat. > >Any suggestions about a type of bike, or source of used bikes would be >appreciated. > Well.. my 2 favorite beginner bikes are the Suzuki GS500 and the ex-500/ninja-500 (same name.. different model years.. sorta.. ) Both are easy to ride, and indestructable.. but the suzuki is more so.. no plastic bits to really worry about.. and its nice and manuverable.. I have alot of experience with it.. mainly cause I own one.. If you are interested I am selling it.. no problems with it, I just developed ducati lust.. and have a 900ss/cr.. Scot From dc-cycles-request Sat Mar 9 22:26:26 1996 To: Penny , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: Any suggestions? Date: Sat, 09 Mar 96 22:11:08 -0500 From: Mark Holm and Julie X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 -- [ From: Mark Holm and Julie * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Penny, also look at the Yamaha Virago 535, and the Kawasaki Vulcan 500 (Similar Bikes to the Shadow). I just got my bike last year, paid $1700 for a 1987 535 Virago (which I love) I looked in a number of papers, the truck trader, the Post, and the Valley Trader which I would pick up out in Herndon. I had a short list of 3 or 4 bikes that I was interested in, and I just spent some weekends looking at bikes! -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- Date: Saturday, 09-Mar-96 07:38 PM From: Penny \ Internet: (usadams@XXXXXX) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX \ Internet: (dc-cycles@XXXXXX) Subject: Any suggestions? Hi, My name is Penny and I am brand new to this list. My husband, Bernie, and I just got into cycling last year. Bernie ownes a KZ650 and just loves it. We have been through a motorcycle safety class and this is the only time I've actually driven a motorcycle. We have been looking for one for me, but haven't had much luck. I'd like a used cycle to start with, one in pretty good shape, but not too expensive. I'm only 5'2" and I've had a tough time finding bikes I could sit on and have my feet touch the ground. I absolutely LOVE the new Honda Shadow 600, but I'm really leery about buying a new bike right off the bat. Any suggestions about a type of bike, or source of used bikes would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Penny Penny Adams usadams@XXXXXX -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- From dc-cycles-request Sat Mar 9 22:28:28 1996 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 22:21:31 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Any suggestions? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199603100038.TAA17638@head.globalcom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Penny, If you have web access go to Yahoo's recreation/motorcycles.They list a web page for short bikers.It has lots of info on models and lowering. The official BuellBoy genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX Buell S2 Thunder(un)bolt GATB#1121 "Most problems in life can be fixed with a chainsaw." Bill D. Cat "But pessimism IS realism!" D.L.Bahr "Auto-Darwin the ignorant." D. Sorenson From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 11 10:07:27 1996 From: "McLoone, William J." To: DC-Cycles List Subject: RE: Any suggestions? Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 10:05:00 EST Encoding: 37 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 >My name is Penny and I am brand new to this list. My husband, Bernie, and I >just got into cycling last year. Bernie ownes a KZ650 and just loves it. >Any suggestions about a type of bike, or source of used bikes would be >appreciated. Penny: Welcome to DC-Cycles. If you have a web browser try to find the short bikers FAQ on the web. It's an FAQ put together by the Short bikers list server participants and it is very good. I'm not sure where it is but they address a lot of issues that shorter riders may want to consider. They also have a lot of basic newbie info. What you may be most interested in is a list of recommended bikes for short riders, especially beginners. I think their number one recommendation was an early 80's Suzuki GS-550. It's a basic standard, low seat height, easy to learn on and powerful enough to keep you going for a while. My first bike was a GS-450 and I think it was terrific to learn on, I just wish the seat cushion could handle my 220 lbs. I would also recommend that you stay away from anything too expensive, like a new bike, until you are comfortable with your skills and the exact kind of motorcycle you want. The reality is that most used bikes of the early 80's go for around the same price regardless of size and make. The price difference is mostly due on condition so pick a bike you like and try it out for a while. If you don't like it you can always buy a different one at a later time. Bill McLoone '82 Susuki GS-450TXz (for Sale) '81 Yamaha XS-11H (50% mine) Burtonsville, MD USA '82 Kawasaki KZ-750E (all mine) 1-800-AMA-JOIN BK-MD I "Ride with Pride" From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 11 10:46:17 1996 From: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 10:46:43 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Survey: latest iteration. The last bike on this list is a ZX-6. Let me know if your mailer truncates the list. Steve 1981 Kawasaki KZ550C2 (LTD) 1983 Honda CX650C 1983 Honda GL650I 1978 Honda CB400A 1982 Yamaha Maxim 1984 Honda 750 Interceptor (VF750F) 1989 Honda Hawk GT 1988 Honda Hawk GT 1978 Suzuki GT380 1995 Honda CBR 900 RR 1992 Ducati 900 SS 1989 Yamaha YSR 050 1971 Honda CB 750 1994 BMW K1100 LT 1989 Honda CB-1 (CB400F) 1984 Yamaha RZ350 1992 Suzuki GSX1100G 1995 Honda CB750 Nighthawk 1995 Ducati 900CR 1993 BMW K75S 1985 Honda VF700C Magna 1984 Honda Nighthawk-S 700SC 1990 Kawasaki ZX11 1982 Kawasaki KZ1100-D1 1983 Honda CB650-SC Nighthawk 1994 Yamaha XT350 1985 Kawasaki Ninja 900 1985 Honda XL350R 1982 Honda CB750F 1993 Honda CBR600F2 1982 Yamaha XJ550 Maxim 1991 Honda ST-1100 1981 honda CB 750K 1984 honda vf 1100s 1985 Honda 700cc Magna 1980 Honda CB650C 1976 Honda CB750K 19?? Honda CB750 1980 Kawasaki KZ440Ltd 1979 Suzuki GS425EN 1982 Suzuki GS-450TXz 1981 Yamaha XS-1100H 1982 Kawasaki KZ-750E 1994 Honda VF750C Magna 1992 Kawasaki Concours 1985 Yamaha V-Max 1985 Yamaha V-Max 1975 Kawasaki H-2 750 1992 Yamaha Seca 750 1982 Honda CBX 1982 Suzuki GS850G 1979 Honda CX500 Custom 1976 Suzuki RE5 1975 Suzuki RE5 1975 Suzuki RE5 1972 Kawasaki H2 1992 Yamaha Seca 750 1992 Yamaha Seca II (XJ600SD). 1991 Kawasaki Ninja 500 1995 Suzuki DR650 1982 Yamaha XS400RJ Seca 1994 Yamaha Seca II 600 1995 Buell S2 Thunderbolt 1994 Suzuki RF900RR 1974 Honda CB125 1973 Yamaha RD60 1986 Yamaha SRX-6 1993 Suzuki GSX 1100GP 1990 Kawasaki ZX-10 1988 Yamaha Venture Royal 1995 Kawasaki ZX-9R 1986 Kawasaki Concours 1995 Yamaha VMax 1995 Ducati 900SS/CR 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1984 Honda Magna 1981 BMW R100RS 1972 Yamaha R5C 1979 Yamaha RD400F Daytona Special 1984 Honda XL350 1986 BMW R65 1995 Honda CBR600f3 1986 Yamaha SRX-6 1983 Honda 750 Magna 1985 Honda Interceptor 700 1974 Kawasaki S3 1994 Kawasaki ZX-6. From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 11 14:42:57 1996 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 14:43:01 -0500 X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: 1964 BMW R-27 for sale This weekend at the Northern Virgina MSF update, Jim Cain mentioned that he has his 1964 BMW R-27 for sale. I've never seen it, but he said he got it to take to antique meets/shows but never has gotten around to doing that so rather than have it just sit in his garage he'd like to see it go to someone who will do something with it. Leon. mrider@XXXXXX begeman@XXXXXX 1983 Honda CX650C 124Kmiles 1983 Honda GL650I 70Kmiles 1978 Honda CB400A 16Kmiles From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 11 21:55:19 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 21:56:53 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: richwest@XXXXXX (Rich Westbrook) Subject: Suzuki Bandit I have been looking for a new/used bike for a while, and the other day I looked at the new Suzuki Bandit. Brand new it is right around my price range. It is very new and the articles I have read have given it good reviews but I would also like to hear from regular people. Does anyone know anything about this bike? Rich From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 11 21:57:57 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 21:59:31 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: richwest@XXXXXX (Rich Westbrook) Subject: Ear Phones I have asked a few people this question and have had very different answers. Is it good or bad to wear earphone when on a motorcycle? And is it illegal? Rich From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 12 00:29:12 1996 From: "James L. Williams" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: RE: Ear Phones Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 00:26:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I have asked a few people this question and have had very different > answers. Is it good or bad to wear earphone when on a motorcycle? > = And is > it illegal? Rich: If your definition of 'Ear Phones' is Ear Protection, I swear by it. I = use the regular foam inserts under my helmet. I started doing it when I = was racing but I found it really helps on the street. The wind noise at = highway speeds gives me a headache and causes fatigue during long rides. = The wind noise also makes it hard to concentrate. Around town you can = debate the good/bad points of wearing ear protection or even a full face = helmet for that matter but I don't ride around town. If your talking = about using your Walkman or a CB even if you could hear it over the wind = I think it would be a bad idea. I don't trust myself enough to listen = to the latest tune on HFS and navigate the beltway at 3:30 pm on a = Friday afternoon... As far as legality I can't say. I do know that the last time I got = pulled over (Holloween night, I believe, for sliding the rear thru a = corner in the rain, but that's a different thread) I pulled off my = helmet in front of the officer, and then pulled out my ear plugs. He = didn't say anything about them, even after he stopped yelling at me = (maybe I should have left them in) =3D:) Jim AOD=20 Vice President of Public Relations=20 From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 12 07:48:12 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 07:52:58 EST From: cnorloff@XXXXXX (Chris Norloff) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Ear Phones >I have asked a few people this question and have had very different >answers. Is it good or bad to wear earphone when on a motorcycle? And is >it illegal? It's good if you keep the volume down so you can hear traffic around you (the penalty here is death or dismemberment). It's bad if you crank the volume too loud (bad for your ears and your life). They're illegal in Maryland (anything blocking both ears, such as ear plugs, ear phones, or headphones is illegal). I think this is also true in Virginia. In practice, you'd have to be doing something else to be stopped and found out. I've never heard of a biker getting hassled over ear plugs or earphones, even with exposed wires leading away from the helmet. Note: it's illegal to have ear plugs or ear phones due to possible reduction in hearing, but it's not illegal to drive a car with so much soundproofing that you can't hear emergency vehicles' sirens, nor is it illegal to turn up music volume in a car so loud you can't hear anything. This argument may not work for a judge, but it works for me. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 12 09:32:23 1996 From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Date: 12 Mar 96 09:35:00 -0500 To: "'DC Cycles'" Original-From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Original-To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Bike Week Original-Date: Tue Mar 12 09:35 EST 1996 Encoding: 21 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Content-Type: text >>Subject: Bike Week >>I have just returned, early, from Daytona Bike Week. This was my first time >>and I must tell all of you that it was pleasure. Main street, at the beach, >>was a mass of bikers from all over the country. Mostly HD but everything >>else too. The most surprising thing, with thousands of rides and folks, no >>where, did I see any one misbehaving. Not even any one looking for trouble. >>It was a church social. Really. Welllllllllllllll.........no. I'd like to go to your church though!! There was more thongs and string bikinis than I've seen in a LONG time. Your right though, the people were extremely well behaved and a great time was had by all!!! Kevin From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 12 10:50:17 1996 From: dpcook@XXXXXX (Dan Cook) Subject: Daytona Race Results To: motolist@XXXXXX (Motolist), thumper@XXXXXX (thumper), dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:18:48 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text So does anyone know exactly what happened with the Daytona Races on Sunday? About 10 of us showed up at the Out of Bounds here in Richmond and got to watch last years race. The sound was turned down initially so we didn't know why the races were cancelled. We were looking around for someone to bet with because we knew that Scott Russell was going to win. later, uncle dan -- *********************************************************************** Dr. Daniel P. Cook Phone: (804)-788-7512 Reynolds Metals Company Fax: (804)-788-7557 Corporate Research and Development email: dpcook@XXXXXX 4th and Canal St. Richmond, VA 23219 *********************************************************************** From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 12 12:09:40 1996 In-Reply-To: <824B756501D9C1AA> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 12:09:45 -0500 From: "Norwicke, Glenn" Sender: "Norwicke, Glenn" Organization: APA To: dpcook@XXXXXX (Dan Cook), dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Daytona Race Results X-mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.00 MHS to SMTP Gateway Cancelled because of rain, it will be run on Sat. and TNN said they will tape the Daytona 200 and air it the following Saturday, March 23 at 1 p.m. Eastern. Glenn 93'CBR600 *********Original Message Follows******************************************** So does anyone know exactly what happened with the Daytona Races on Sunday? About 10 of us showed up at the Out of Bounds here in Richmond and got to watch last years race. The sound was turned down initially so we didn't know why the races were cancelled. We were looking around for someone to bet with because we knew that Scott Russell was going to win. later, uncle dan -- *********************************************************************** Dr. Daniel P. Cook Phone: (804)-788-7512 Reynolds Metals Company Fax: (804)-788-7557 Corporate Research and Development email: dpcook@XXXXXX 4th and Canal St. Richmond, VA 23219 *********************************************************************** ------------------------[ SMTP header ]---------------------- | Return-Path: | Received: from krishna.cs.UMD.EDU by email.apa.org | via Connect2-SMTP 4.00 (0000207); Tue, 12 Mar 96 11:15:48 -0500 | Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU | by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.3/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) | id KAA10096; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:50:16 -0500 (EST) | Received: from ns.rmc.com | by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.6.11/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) | id KAA16914; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:50:09 -0500 | Received: by ns.rmc.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) | id AA10278; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:39:34 -0500 | Received: from internet.rmc.com(137.25.3.24) by ns.rmc.com via smap (V1.3) | id sma020488; Tue Mar 12 10:39:24 1996 | Received: from factotum.rmc.com by internet.rmc.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) | id AA02116; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:24:42 -0500 | Received: by factotum.rmc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) | id AA06330; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:18:48 -0500 | From: dpcook@XXXXXX (Dan Cook) | Message-Id: <9603121518.AA06330@XXXXXX> | Subject: Daytona Race Results | To: motolist@XXXXXX (Motolist), thumper@XXXXXX (thumper), | dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles) | Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:18:48 -0500 (EST) | X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] | Content-Type: text ------------------------------------------------------------- *********End of Original Message******************************************** From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 12 12:19:10 1996 X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:18:43 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: Daytona Race Results At 10:18 AM 3/12/96 -0500, Dan Cook wrote: >So does anyone know exactly what happened with the Daytona Races >on Sunday? About 10 of us showed up at the Out of Bounds here in Well I stood on turn three for about two hours in the rain until they decided to cancell the event. Aparently it is going to be run this saturday. Stephen Stephen Taylor Harris http://www.his.com/~harris/index.htm From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 12 12:19:19 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:19:17 -0500 From: bones@XXXXXX (Bones) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Daytona Race Results X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII rained out but how bout that nascar race !!! it was suppose to run yseterday and be broadcast on the 23 but??? it was still raining down there yesterday K. P. `Bones' Mahoney "All complaints about any opinions expressed bones@XXXXXX should be directed to me not my employer!" SOHC/4 #132 "Legalize Freedom Vote Libertarian" From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 12 19:05:58 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:48:02 -0500 From: Warren Weiss Subject: Re: Suzuki Bandit In-Reply-To: richwest@cais.cais.com (Rich Westbrook) "Suzuki Bandit" (Mar 11, 9:56pm) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > ...I looked at the new Suzuki Bandit... > ...the articles I have read have given it good reviews... I am interested in this bike as well. How does it compare to Suzuki's own RF600? Is the RF still available, anyway? It never seemed to get much press attention. Neither does the Bandit, but I suppose it's because it's more subdued than the other bikes in the 600 class - not a race-oriented bike, so it doesn't get a whole lot of attention. -- ************************************************************************ Warren W. Weiss VMI '87 wweiss@XXXXXX AMA # 409056 weiss@XXXXXX Hughes Information Technology Company Ride: '85 VF700F Interceptor Upper Marlboro, MD Deus Ex Machina Think For Yourself and Question Authority Anonymous ************************************************************************ From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 13 09:49:27 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 09:49:22 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: richwest@XXXXXX (Rich Westbrook) Subject: Re: Suzuki Bandit > > ...I looked at the new Suzuki Bandit... > > ...the articles I have read have given it good reviews... > >I am interested in this bike as well. How does it compare to Suzuki's own >RF600? Is the RF still available, anyway? It never seemed to get much press >attention. Neither does the Bandit, but I suppose it's because it's more >subdued than the other bikes in the 600 class - not a race-oriented bike, so it >doesn't get a whole lot of attention. There is a good article on the Suzuki Bandit and other cheap bikes in that class on Motocycle online. If you have web access it is located at (http://www.motorcycle.com/motorcycle.html). They seem to say in a strange round-about way that the Suzuki is the best bike but that the Honda Nighthawk 750 is a couple hundred dollars cheaper, therefore it won in their test. (I don't get it) Its a very good article and worth checking out for anyone who is interested in buying a cheap new bike. Rich From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 13 10:37:33 1996 From: jimi@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:37:26 -0500 (EST) To: DC Cycles Subject: Wanted: 1996 Summit Point Race Schedule MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Haven't seen one of these this year, anyone have feel like posting it? I've heard the first race is the first weekend in April, can anyone confirm? Thanks! -jimi From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 13 10:57:40 1996 From: "Mr. Kosmas Pentakalos" Subject: Re: Suzuki Bandit & 400s Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:55:54 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: from "Rich Westbrook" at Mar 13, 96 09:49:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich Westbrook > > There is a good article on the Suzuki Bandit and other cheap bikes in that > class on Motocycle online. If you have web access it is located at > (http://www.motorcycle.com/motorcycle.html). I recently visited Europe and was exposed to the most popular class there which is sport 400s. Among them the Bandit was a minority if they were any. It is considered a retro bike and not a sport bike. The sport bikes were GSXR400 (radical), the ZZR400 (peaky at 17000rpm :), the Yamaha was either FZR400 or YZF400, the Hondas were the CBR400rr and VFR400 and are considered the best. The CBR as an overall sport bike, the VFR is considered a jewel of engineering. Of course we don't get them here and we have to settle for Bandits. Kosmas > > Rich > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 13 11:33:15 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:30:00 -0500 From: "Goddard, Jay" Subject: Summit Point To: DC Cycles X-Mailer: Worldtalk(NetConnex V3.50c)/stream The first WERA race is the second week of April (13&14). I just got my Point info yesterday. MARRS is hosting a flagging class this weekend in Silver Spring MD. That's just an FYI for anyone that cares about racing. If you want more info E-mail me. Jay Goddard goddardj@XXXXXX 94 ZX9R 91 EX500 (for sale) From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 13 13:00:14 1996 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.0) From: John Nelson Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 13:03:43 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Generalized Motorcycle Maintenance Are there any books that cover step-by-step maintenance and upkeep of bikes? Yes, I know there are repair manuals but these are more like references for specific bikes. I'm more interested in a "Shadetree Mechanic's" manual of tips and "how tos" for those of us who aren't that experienced. Anything out there that might interest me? - John --- John Nelson MCI Metro John.Nelson@XXXXXX SRMS 1.0 Development Team From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 13 13:27:17 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 13:23:25 EST From: W.Michael.DiTullio@XXXXXX To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Generalized Motorcycle Maintenance Organization: Loral FSC News-Software: UReply 3.1 In a previous message, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 13:03:43 -0500 >From: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Generalized Motorcycle Maintenance >Reply-To: John.Nelson@XXXXXX > > >Are there any books that cover step-by-step maintenance and upkeep of bikes? >Yes, I know there are repair manuals but these are more like references for >specific bikes. I'm more interested in a "Shadetree Mechanic's" manual of >tips and "how tos" for those of us who aren't that experienced. Anything out >there that might interest me? > >- John > >--- > >John Nelson MCI Metro >John.Nelson@XXXXXX SRMS 1.0 Development Team Stop by a Honda Dealer and check out the Honda Common Service Manual. Gives a nice overview of all motorcycle funtions as well as trouble-shooting/service tips. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Mike DiTullio |All opinions are my own, and I have | |ditullio@XXXXXX |thousands of them to donate...ask me. | |spazman@XXXXXX |Atlantic City, NJ | |1-800-AMA-JOIN |87 VW-GTI, 89 Hawk-GT, 95 ST1100 STOC# 105 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 13 16:24:34 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 16:24:30 -0500 (EST) From: David C Lawrence To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: St. Patrick's Day Motorcycle Poker Run for MDA This is a resend of a message I sent a couple of weeks ago. The ride is this weekend. The weather is currently forecast to be in partly cloudy with temperatures in the 60s. The "simple" route is a mere 85 miles and a little under two hours of saddle time on the obvious roads to get you through to the stops. The "interesting" route should come out to about 140 miles (I'm getting the actual odometer on it tomorrow morning) on mostly back roads. Don't worry, if you ride a Sportster or some other bike that measures its tank capacity in milliliters instead of gallons, there will be petrol stops on the way. Please come all gassed up and ready to go. My group will be the first to leave at about 10:30am. ================ On St Patty's Day there will be a charity poker run starting from the Sign of the Whale at Loehmann's Plaza (Rt 50 about a mile inside the VA side of the Beltway). It will go to stops in Great Falls, Leesburg, Middleburg, and Fair Lakes before returning to Loehmann's. I'm responsible for the route plan and I'm making the most fun one I can considering the significantly suburban and exurban setting. For those of you unfamiliar with what a poker run is, it's basically just an excuse for a bunch of guys to get together and ride. It's not a parade type thing, though, such that it is expected all riders will stay together at all time. There's a planned route with stops at which each rider gets to pick one card to add to his (or her) hand (two cards if you have two hands). You get a total of six cards, discard the worst one to make the best hand you can. The best hands win prizes. The prizes are decent, probably worth at least the entry fee, but nothing spectacular. Bruce is projecting to raise at least 500$ for MDA from this event. Drinks and snacks will be available throughout the ride. The flyer is reproduced below. Well, it's not exactly like the real flyer, but it works. St. Patrick's Day Motorcycle Poker Run to benefit Jerry's Kids, the Muscular Dystrophy Association Sunday, March 17, 1996 (No Rain-Outs, but you may choose to use a vehicle other than a motorcycle if you want.) $20 Entry Fee for One Poker Hand (2nd Hand $10) includes commemorative T-Shirt & chance at door prizes Prizes for top three hands: Dinner for 2 at Ruth Chris Steak House, Arlington, VA Dinner for 2 at That's Amore, Vienna, VA Dinner for 2 at Lightfoot Cafe, Leesburg, VA 50-50 & dozens of door prizes & surprises special prize for most Irish outfit and oldest motorcycle Sign-up opens at 10am, bikes all leave by 11am, return cut off 4:30pm 100 to 140 miles of fun For Details Call Bruce, 703 573 1616 Steering Committee: David Lawrence -- UUNET Michal Mutter - Birch, Stewart, Kolasch & Birch Dress Warm * Ride Sober * Ride Smart Sign of the Whale Restaurant 7279 Arlington Blvd, Loehmann's Plaza, Falls Church VA 22042 From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 13 19:39:50 1996 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 00:39:49 GMT From: leavitt@XXXXXX (Mr. Bill) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley 2stroke oil question NR == Nick Ranone wrote: NR> I have a 1975 HD SS250 2 stroke. The manual says to use HD 2 stroke oil. NR> I haven't found a Harley dealer that likes to admit my 250cc is a HD, let NR> alone carry anything for it. It has an oil tank and mixes internally. NR> What kind of oil should I use? Any good 2-stroke oil (Bel-Ray, etc) should suffice. NR> I hope to have it running by the time Rolling NR> Thunder rolls around. I can't wait to see the look on the HD riders faces NR> when I wing ding up on my little piglet. Heh-heh... :-) Bryndyn replies: > Being a stroker myself, I would love to see your bike. And I was thinking > HD didn't have a single bike that I would want to sit on. What sytle of > bike is it? It'd probably be a street-scrambler Aermacchi, made in Italy for HD. Mr. Bill -- Bill Leavitt, leavitt@XXXXXX | "Blow it out your ass, motorcycle man! AMA, ICOA, Lemans, KTC, DoD #224 | I am THE DEVIL, do you UNDERSTAND?" HON: 82 CBX, 79 CX500 KAW: 72 H2 |________--Frank Zappa, "Titties & Beer" SUZ: 82 GS850G, 76 RE5, 2-75 RE5 My garage is full and I can't get out! From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 13 19:59:26 1996 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 00:59:25 GMT From: leavitt@XXXXXX (Mr. Bill) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, kim@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Daytona Bound!! kim@XXXXXX (Kim Bieler) writes: >> Well, OK, I am not Daytona-bound, but I love this time of year anyway 'cuz >> you see the thousands of bikes and trailers with bikes headed to Motor- >> cycling's Mecca. > I don't want to start a "flame war" or anything... Actually I love seeing > bikes on the road, even if they're being pulled. I didn't see too many bikes of *any* kind actually being ridden to Daytona. Everything was on trailers or in trucks. Japanese bikes, et al, were as well represented in the trailer set as were Harleys. The simple truth is, almost *nobody* rides their bikes to Daytona anymore. Cripes, I saw plenty of bikes with *FLORIDA* plates that were trailered into town! I talked with one guy who trailered in from *ORLANDO*!! What a joke!! I got a t-shirt from the Swine Pit on Main Street that I just *had* to get: "I RODE MY BIKE TO TRAILER WEEK" > But you gotta admit, you > don't see too many Harley riders in the rain, for example. I saw plenty on Sunday in Daytona during/after the rain-out of the 200. Mr. Bill -- Bill Leavitt, leavitt@XXXXXX | "Blow it out your ass, motorcycle man! AMA, ICOA, Lemans, KTC, DoD #224 | I am THE DEVIL, do you UNDERSTAND?" HON: 82 CBX, 79 CX500 KAW: 72 H2 |________--Frank Zappa, "Titties & Beer" SUZ: 82 GS850G, 76 RE5, 2-75 RE5 My garage is full and I can't get out! From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 13 21:25:31 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 21:26:16 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Summit Point Races March 17 Safety crew Race Emergency School (Four Corner's Rec Center, MD, email for directions. This is a school to teach the basics of cornerworking, and is a great place to start if you want to try cornerworking.) April 13-14 WERA Sprints May 11 MARRC Roadracing School May 11-12 CCS Sprints May 24-26 WERA National June 14 MARRC Track Day (racers only) June 15 MARRC Roadracing School June 15-16 CCS Sprints June 17 Cycle Sport Bike Day (for street riders) July 20 MARRC Roadracing School July 20-21 CCS Sprints August 3-4 WERA Sprints September 14 MARRC Roadracing School September 14-15 CCS Sprints September 16 Cycle Sport Bike Day (for street riders) September 27-29 Sportscar Vintage Racing Assc. October 5-6 WERA Sprints rich From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 13 22:06:23 1996 X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:05:50 -0500 To: DC Cycles From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: Summit Point At 11:30 AM 3/13/96 -0500, Goddard, Jay wrote: > >The first WERA race is the second week of April (13&14). I just got my >Point info yesterday. MARRS is hosting a flagging class this weekend in >Silver Spring MD. That's just an FYI for anyone that cares about racing. If >you want more info E-mail me. You can also find more info about MARRC (not MARRS) at http://alpha.nova.org/~marrc/race.htm or can find info about the MARRC school at http://alpha.nova.org/~marrc/rrs.htm. If you need any infomation you can also contact me personally. Stephen Harris Stephen Taylor Harris http://www.his.com/~harris/index.htm From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 13 22:58:05 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 21:26:10 -0500 To: race@XXXXXX, ex500@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, hawkgt@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Info on Daytona; racers beware Since inclemate weather forced the Daytona 200 to be postponed for the second time in its 55 year history, a number of compromises are necessary to allow the race happen at all. I believe the following notes to be accurate, although possibly tainted with my bias. The 600cc, Harley, and the Superbike races will be held Saturday. TNN is having a local video company cover the race, which TNN will broadcast one week later. There was no incentive or compensation offered to the cornerworkers to encourage them to return on Saturday. While the AMI students and other local floridians helped with the cornerworking chores, the majority of the experienced cornerworkers are from the Mid-Atlantic region and few are willing to make the long drive south for the second week in a row. I hope that the race organizers are able to field a reasonable cornerworking team. rich From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 14 08:03:42 1996 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 08:08:33 EST From: cnorloff@XXXXXX (Chris Norloff) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Generalized Motorcycle Maintenance >Are there any books that cover step-by-step maintenance and upkeep of bikes? >Yes, I know there are repair manuals but these are more like references for >specific bikes. I'm more interested in a "Shadetree Mechanic's" manual of >tips and "how tos" for those of us who aren't that experienced. Anything out >there that might interest me? I think the best is to get the (factory) service manual for your bike and study it. It's more than just a reference, it's step-by-step directions of how to do things on YOUR bike. General manuals are nice, if you understand enough about the systems to transfer that general knowledge to the specific systems on your bike. For example, knowing there's three wires off the alternator windings is nice, but you won't find them on your bike unless you trace the wires. With the service manual, you can go right to where you can test the wires. Chilton's manuals I really dislike because they're so general. I was working on my mother's car,and trying to follow a Chiltons. The instructions were something like "disconnect the blue wire and the green wire from the distributor. Caution: your distributor may have more or less wires and they may be of different colors." Such instructions are absolutely worthless. Also, I've seen notices about motorcycle maintenance courses (see _Winding Road Motorcycle Times_ at your dealer). These might help dispel some of the mystery of basic maintenance. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 14 21:16:00 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 21:16:18 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: Generalized Motorcycle Maintenance At 08:08 AM 3/14/96 EST, Chris Norloff wrote: >>Are there any books that cover step-by-step maintenance and upkeep of bikes? >I think the best is to get the (factory) service manual for your bike >and study it. It's more than just a reference, it's step-by-step >directions of how to do things on YOUR bike. > >General manuals are nice, if you understand enough about the systems >to transfer that general knowledge to the specific systems on your >bike. For example, knowing there's three wires off the alternator >windings is nice, but you won't find them on your bike unless you >trace the wires. With the service manual, you can go right to where >you can test the wires. While I agree that the factory manuals are best for each bike, these manuals assume a certain level of mechanical training. If you are a new wrench, you might want a book that covers some of the basics. >Chilton's manuals I really dislike because they're so general. I was >working on my mother's car,and trying to follow a Chiltons. The >instructions were something like "disconnect the blue wire and the >green wire from the distributor. Caution: your distributor may have >more or less wires and they may be of different colors." Such >instructions are absolutely worthless. I've had other 3rd party books with blatant, dangerous errors in procedure. (eg: the haynes (sp?) for my old truck instructed me to set the valve lash with the valves fully open) I've been thinking about writing an instructional book on bikes, along the lines of 'sportbike maintanance for dummies'. Do you think there is a need? rich From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 14 23:00:04 1996 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:52:52 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Suzuki Bandit To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The official BuellBoy genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX Buell S2 Thunder(un)bolt GATB#1121 "Most problems in life can be fixed with a chainsaw." Bill D. Cat "But pessimism IS realism!" D.L.Bahr "Auto-Darwin the ignorant." D. Sorenson On Wed, 13 Mar 1996, Rich Westbrook wrote: (snip) > their test. (I don't get it) Its a very good article and worth checking out > for anyone who is interested in buying a cheap new bike. 'Cheap new bike' is like 'military intelligence'.I can remember $1400 Rebels and $3995 Magnas. :-P From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 14 23:09:11 1996 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:59:47 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Harley 2stroke oil question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199603140039.AAA11673@nemo.cs.UMD.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The official BuellBoy genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX Buell S2 Thunder(un)bolt GATB#1121 "Most problems in life can be fixed with a chainsaw." Bill D. Cat "But pessimism IS realism!" D.L.Bahr "Auto-Darwin the ignorant." D. Sorenson On Thu, 14 Mar 1996, Mr. Bill wrote: > NR == Nick Ranone wrote: > NR> I have a 1975 HD SS250 2 stroke. The manual says to use HD 2 stroke oil. > NR> I haven't found a Harley dealer that likes to admit my 250cc is a HD, let > NR> alone carry anything for it. It has an oil tank and mixes internally. > NR> What kind of oil should I use? > NR> I hope to have it running by the time Rolling > NR> Thunder rolls around. I can't wait to see the look on the HD riders faces > NR> when I wing ding up on my little piglet. > Bryndyn replies: > > Being a stroker myself, I would love to see your bike. And I was thinking > > HD didn't have a single bike that I would want to sit on. What sytle of > > bike is it? > It'd probably be a street-scrambler Aermacchi, made in Italy for HD. Yep,it is.I haven't seen the actual bike,but I've seen the ad pamphlet that came with it(Nick works in the section next to me). On the subject;are there any plans for the dc-cycles crew to meet for Rolling Thunder?I was thinking that maybe instead of meeting in the parking lot,we could all get together somewhere for breakfast and then go to the Pentagon. From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 14 23:13:16 1996 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 23:06:46 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Generalized Motorcycle Maintenance To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <9603131803.AA18787@metro.mci.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Mar 1996, John Nelson wrote: > Are there any books that cover step-by-step maintenance and upkeep of bikes? > Yes, I know there are repair manuals but these are more like references for > specific bikes. I'm more interested in a "Shadetree Mechanic's" manual of > tips and "how tos" for those of us who aren't that experienced. Anything out > there that might interest me? Try a Clymer manual.They are model specific,but in the front they give tips on things like reading sparkplugs and how to remove stuck/broken off bolts. From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 15 09:25:26 1996 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 09:30:19 EST From: cnorloff@XXXXXX (Chris Norloff) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Looking for a touring bike >I'm looking for my first ride in many years. It's going to be a touring >bike. At the moment I only know about the Honda ST1100, Pacific Coast and >the BMW K57,K1100. These bikes, because of their show room price, are a >"dream machine" at the moment. What I need to know are alternative. (New or >Used) > >What are the names of other touring bikes? Actually everybody makes touring bikes, because you can tour on any bike you want. What you want to do is more important than whether it is 'touring' or not. If you want large carrying capacity, room for a passenger, or Interstate-style comfort, well, that's something else. I like the Honda ST1100, but it's more at home on big roads than little ones. It's pretty heavy, though its handling is surprisingly light for its weight. I sure was happy to get back on my bike with its light handling and light weight (1982 'sport' bike, now called a 'standard'; 550 lbs). I've never ridden a Pacific Coast, but it has done one of the best jobs at making a maintenance-free bike. No valve adjustment needed, no driveshaft spline lubing required. For me, the light payload capability rules out camping with two people, and the alternator output rules out much additional electrical accessories (like LOTS of heated clothing). The mirrors are close enough to the center that things you strap on the rear seat can easily block your rear view. For me, the PC would be a perfect commuter, but not a touring machine. The BMW K100RS I've ridden has very stiff handling. It loves rolling at 80, but it's not fast in getting leaned over, and requires a lot of force to keep it in a turn. Excellent carrying capacity and electrical output. The BMW K75 was my favorite of all of these. Nice light bike, nice light handling. Putting a thousand miles on it was a real pleasure. It still needs valve adjustment checked every 5,000 miles, and that 'great' German engineering still needs driveshaft lubing too often. And those engineers still haven't figured out how to make a helmet lock that's usable, or how to integrate the ignition lock with the fork lock. happy hunting, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 15 10:43:16 1996 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "brian downey" Organization: PSA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:32:10 +0000 Subject: Re: Looking for a touring bike Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.20) in response to: > >I'm looking for my first ride in many years. It's going to be a touring > >bike. At the moment I only know about the Honda ST1100, Pacific Coast and > >the BMW K57,K1100. These bikes, because of their show room price, are a > >"dream machine" at the moment. What I need to know are alternative. (New or > >Used) > > > >What are the names of other touring bikes? cnorloff@XXXXXX (Chris Norloff) commented: > Actually everybody makes touring bikes, because you can tour on any > bike you want. What you want to do is more important than whether it > is 'touring' or not. If you want large carrying capacity, room for a > passenger, or Interstate-style comfort, well, that's something else. > I agree with the above. There are at least a couple of other bikes that have good carrying capacity and are reasonably comfortable for long hauls (my criteria for touring). You might look into the Kaw Concours. The "Connie" has a dedicated following and a good reputation for reliability. Also a little heavy - but if you want to "flick it", get a "sportbike". I kind of equate the Connie with the ST. Both are plentiful and there are bargains to be had. Another approach, and my personal bias, is toward the Honda VFR. These bikes are a little expensive even used, but are extremely capable both as tourers (with add-on bags/luggage) and as 8/10ths sport bikes. I used to run an old Honda CB900C (cruiser style), which was quite good on long highway trips also. With bags and a windshield it would have been better :) I guess the deal here is that almost any bike (short of a full race-repli-sportbike) can be a good tourer with the right equipment. Good luck, __________________ ===(')(') ___________________bfd_____ Brian Downey "" brdowney@XXXXXX Falls Church, VA brdowney@XXXXXX '84 750 Interceptor DoD#4657 AMA exUSN 2 cool boys From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 15 14:01:33 1996 X-Sender: mark@sport X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 14:04:31 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mark Vicuna Subject: Cornerworking Class Question... I know its this Sunday, but where and what time and any other info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, MarkV. From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 15 16:32:30 1996 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 21:32:29 GMT From: leavitt@XXXXXX (Mr. Bill) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Looking for a touring bike In addition to the other bikes mentioned, there is the Triumph Trophy. It comes as both a 900cc triple and an awesome 1200cc four. I demo'd both bikes several times at Daytona and was very impressed. The only problem was that the front end has a lot of dive; a call to Progressive and/or White Bros. is a must. They're awfully expensive, but if you're looking at Beemers then they're probably in your price range. Mr. Bill -- Bill Leavitt, leavitt@XXXXXX | "Blow it out your ass, motorcycle man! AMA, ICOA, Lemans, KTC, DoD #224 | I am THE DEVIL, do you UNDERSTAND?" HON: 82 CBX, 79 CX500 KAW: 72 H2 |________--Frank Zappa, "Titties & Beer" SUZ: 82 GS850G, 76 RE5, 2-75 RE5 My garage is full and I can't get out! From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 15 18:41:49 1996 From: "James L. Williams" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Insurance Question Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 18:39:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want to switch insurance companies (from Allstate) and I'm interested in finding a company who will insure a bike, a car and a house. I would rather be dead then use Geico. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. If I have to go with separate companies then I would like to hear anyone's recommendation for a bike only company. Thanks in advance. Jim Williams AOD Henchman From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 15 20:30:47 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <01BB129E.BEAC0D60@pool034.Max3.Washington.DC.DYNIP.ALTER.NET> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.0) From: Thomas Piergallini Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 20:37:34 -0500 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: Insurance Question Consider Nationwide. I do not use them as I use separate companies for bike/house/car But A few years ago, I had a sportbike and a car by them and the rate = was more than reasonable. pierre= From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 15 22:58:01 1996 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 22:51:37 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Insurance Question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <01BB129E.BEAC0D60@pool034.Max3.Washington.DC.DYNIP.ALTER.NET> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try State Farm.I've had most of my bikes as well as my renter's insurance through them.The rates have always seemed fair and their service is good. The official BuellBoy genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX Buell S2 Thunder(un)bolt GATB#1121 "Most problems in life can be fixed with a chainsaw." Bill D. Cat "But pessimism IS realism!" D.L.Bahr "Auto-Darwin the ignorant." D. Sorenson From dc-cycles-request Sat Mar 16 08:09:02 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 08:09:29 -0500 To: Mark Vicuna , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: Cornerworking Class Question... At 02:04 PM 3/15/96 -0500, Mark Vicuna wrote: >> I know its this Sunday, but where and what time and any other info would be >greatly appreciated. The MARRC Race Emergency School (intro to cornerworking) is this Sunday at 10am. We'll have coffee and donuts but you might want to bring a sandwich as it runs til 2pm. Directions follow: From the beltway, go north on either Rt 29 (Colesville Rd) or Rt 193 (University Blvd). At the junction of Rt 29 and 193, go north on Rt 29 toward Columbia. Take the second left on Southwood Ave. Follow this to the Four Corners Recreation Center. rich From dc-cycles-request Sat Mar 16 10:39:48 1996 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 07:39:14 -0800 X-Sender: nranone2@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: nranone2@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) Subject: Bike Trade Questions I have an 88 Ford Bronco II XLT that I want to sell. I wand to buy a Harley with the money I get from the sale of the truck. For simplicity, I thought I would try to trade. I posted this on rec.moto in Jan and someone said to try a shop in Glen Burnie, on Crain Highway, called Cycles I, he thought. I didn't find a listing for it. Does anyone have an address phone number for the place? Does anyone have another suggestion? Thanks in advance...Nick Gil, you can tell me at work so don't bother flaming me here ;^) From dc-cycles-request Sat Mar 16 17:17:18 1996 From: RIdeY@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 17:18:03 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: DP Jackets Iv'e been looking around for a Dual-Purpose (dual-sport/enduro etc) jacket and still havent found exactly what Im looking for. I want a waterproof, windproof Cordura shell with good zippered ventilation, and a zipt out liner for colder weather. It should also have some protection pads (back, shoulders, elbows). BUT, I won't pay over $250 for it (as of now). The only thing I've found so far is the Motosport "Canyon" which is pretty good, except its a bit cheesy and not too pretty. I've been to Coleman's and to Cycles USA, and neither had a good selection of such jackets. Any suggestions? Thanks Niv From dc-cycles-request Sun Mar 17 10:56:46 1996 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 10:56:48 -0500 X-Sender: usadams@XXXXXX (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Penny Subject: Thanks for the wonderful responses! I received a great deal of responses about my post asking for suggestions for bikes for me. I am really sorry I could not personally respond to all of them. I am going to school at night and face midterms next week - yuck! Anyway, I heard from a a lot of people selling bikes. I think I mentioned in my original post, I really like the Honda Shadow 600 and would be able to get a new one for about $5000. Most people that responded to me are selling bikes from $2500 and up. I think I'm leaning towards getting a new Shadow. Most people say you shouldn't start with a new bike, and I think that generally makes sense. But when I look at the prices, it seems like it might not be a bad idea to go with the Shadow. Thanks again for the mail. This group is great! Penny Penny Adams usadams@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Sun Mar 17 23:20:34 1996 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:20:25 -0500 (EST) From: Jeff Teitel To: RIdeY@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DP Jackets In-Reply-To: <960316171803_170134441@emout10.mail.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 16 Mar 1996 RIdeY@XXXXXX wrote: > I've been looking around for a Dual-Purpose (dual-sport/enduro etc) jacket > and still havent found exactly what Im looking for. The current issue of one of the moto mags (Motorcyclist?) has a comparison of a bunch of riding jackets. I only skimmed it so I don't have any suggestions other than to stop by your local newsstand. ============================================================================ Keep the Rubber Side Down jteitel@XXXXXX '92 Seca II DoD#1365 From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 18 07:42:14 1996 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 07:47:19 EST From: cnorloff@XXXXXX (Chris Norloff) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Insurance Question >If I have to go with separate companies then I would like to hear anyone's recommendation for a bike only company. I've used National General (a subsidiary of Xerox) for 10 years and have been happy (though I've never made a claim ... which is fine by me!). This is the company that advertises, or used to, through _Rider_ magazine - subscribing to the magazine made you a 'member' so you could get the insurance. I don't think keeping the subscription is a requirement! I currently pay $100 a year for liability on my 1985 Honda CB750F. 1-800-325-1190 Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 18 11:44:35 1996 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:43:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Justin V. Laubach" Subject: Bike week comments and such To: DC Cycles MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I just spent my spring break heading down to Florida for some camping, boating, and touring (in our van). We went down on Sunday, just as Bike week was ending and saw a TON of bikes coming up on I-95 north. Most were on trailers (esp. in the north) but there were a good number being ridden as we got further south, though mostly full-dress touring rigs. We drove through Daytona Beach on monday, day after bike week ended, but still saw a lot of bikes around. The paper said it attracted 300,000 even with the mediocre weather. When we were there it was raining like crazy and there were severe winds. I did see some cool sights on my way down, such as: A Harley cruiser being towed by a Buick! (shhhh, we'll just park it a long way off) A harley cruiser in the back of a little Japanese pickup- (I ride 'MERICAN BIKE, but my truck's a rugged 1982 mazda shortbed) The Daytona newspaper covered up their name with a bold "Biker Edition" headline. Pretty cool. They did a profile of a different biker every day, saying what he (she?) rode and where he came from, etc. The number 1 coolest thing I saw, however, was a Harley being towed up I-95, by, of all things, a big ol' Hummer (Hum Vee {Twin}) It was a pretty cool time! from, Justin V. Laubach (JLaubach@XXXXXX) From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 18 20:37:55 1996 From: RIdeY@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 20:37:23 -0500 To: jteitel@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DP Jackets In a message dated 96-03-17 23:20:51 EST, jteitel@XXXXXX (Jeff Teitel) writes: > >The current issue of one of the moto mags (Motorcyclist?) has a comparison >of a bunch of riding jackets. I only skimmed it so I don't have any >suggestions other than to stop by your local newsstand. > > thanks, seen it. Not much there - too small a variety for such a comparison. There are probably 10 or 20 more in the market which aren't represented. Isn't about time these magazines did a more thorough job on such things? From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 19 09:53:51 1996 From: dpcook@XXXXXX (Dan Cook) Subject: Re: DP Jackets To: RIdeY@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:43:18 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles) In-Reply-To: <960318203722_449610353@emout07.mail.aol.com> from "RIdeY@aol.com" at Mar 18, 96 08:37:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > > In a message dated 96-03-17 23:20:51 EST, jteitel@XXXXXX (Jeff Teitel) > writes: > > > > >The current issue of one of the moto mags (Motorcyclist?) has a comparison > >of a bunch of riding jackets. I only skimmed it so I don't have any > >suggestions other than to stop by your local newsstand. > > > > > > thanks, seen it. Not much there - too small a variety for such a comparison. > There are probably 10 or 20 more in the market which aren't represented. > Isn't about time these magazines did a more thorough job on such things? > I agree with you there. It was a pretty poor representation of what is out there. Basically it comes down to the fact that the moto mags in the states SUCK! uncle dan -- *********************************************************************** Dr. Daniel P. Cook Phone: (804)-788-7512 Reynolds Metals Company Fax: (804)-788-7557 Corporate Research and Development email: dpcook@XXXXXX 4th and Canal St. Richmond, VA 23219 *********************************************************************** From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 19 11:02:02 1996 From: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:01:29 -0500 To: dpcook@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Bike Mags In a message dated 96-03-19 10:57:35 EST, you write: > Basically it comes down to the fact that the moto mags >in the states SUCK! I could not agree more. Go to your local newsstand or upscale bookstore and try to get from the UK. Funny and interesting, and fortunately contains material that could offend some people, unlike CW etc. Also sometimes has some interesting stuff also. Steve From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 19 11:12:11 1996 From: dpcook@XXXXXX (Dan Cook) Subject: Re: Bike Mags To: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:05:51 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles) In-Reply-To: <960319110126_450008137@mail06> from "SRFox@aol.com" at Mar 19, 96 11:01:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text > > In a message dated 96-03-19 10:57:35 EST, you write: > > > Basically it comes down to the fact that the moto mags > >in the states SUCK! > > I could not agree more. Go to your local newsstand or upscale > bookstore and try to get from the UK. Funny > and interesting, and fortunately contains material that could offend > some people, unlike CW etc. Also sometimes > has some interesting stuff also. > > Steve > God, I love Performance Bike! Awesome mag! It's obvious that they are not trying to appeal to everyone, which I feel that CW does. I'm just hoping that the writing, etc doesn't go down in quality because they recently had a change in Editor. The old one went to some car mag and they promoted Mark Forsythe. He is an excellent writer, having written interesting articles about riding the Britten and Doolin's GP bike, but it remains to be seen if he is a good editor. later, uncle dan -- *********************************************************************** Dr. Daniel P. Cook Phone: (804)-788-7512 Reynolds Metals Company Fax: (804)-788-7557 Corporate Research and Development email: dpcook@XXXXXX 4th and Canal St. Richmond, VA 23219 *********************************************************************** From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 19 11:18:30 1996 From: "Tracy Minter" Organization: College of BA, Univ. of S. Carolina To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:10:18 EST Subject: Re: Generalized Motorcycle Maintenance Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Rich writes: > I've been thinking about writing an instructional book on bikes, along > the lines of 'sportbike maintanance for dummies'. Do you think there is a need? Yes, there is a need. I do have a general maintenance/new bike owner book for beginners that was printed in England, and it covers all the basics and trouble-shooting, but I haven't used it since the first time I bought the bike and worked on it as a beginner. I also have a more comprehensive one, but it is too general for my specific needs. btw, there is a "Sex for Dummies" manual out there, so you can probably get in with the Dummies publishers for your manual, if you write it!!! Tracy Tracy Minter minterm6@XXXXXX '82 YAM 400XSRJ From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 19 12:19:29 1996 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:17:30 EST From: W.Michael.DiTullio@XXXXXX To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Generalized Motorcycle Maintenance Organization: Loral FSC News-Software: UReply 3.1 I just got the new Dennis Kirk catalog and along with all the model specific moto manuals they had one that was "general maintenance." $20 if I remember correctly. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Mike DiTullio |All opinions are my own, and I have | |ditullio@XXXXXX |thousands of them to donate...ask me. | |spazman@XXXXXX |Atlantic City, NJ | |1-800-AMA-JOIN |87 VW-GTI, 89 Hawk-GT, 95 ST1100 STOC# 105 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 19 12:53:35 1996 From: "Osidach, Vera Z." To: "'dc cycles - all'" Subject: Bike rental? Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:47:00 EST Encoding: 7 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Hi, all. A friend of mine will be in the DC area in the middle of April, and he's looking for a bike to rent while he's here. His first preference is Harley Davidson, but that's not a necessity. The only place I know of is HOG, but he's not a member. Does anyone know of any place around here that rents motorcycles on a daily basis? TIA. -Vo (Vera Osidach, vzo1@XXXXXX) From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 19 13:57:43 1996 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:58:51 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: kim@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: kim@XXXXXX (Kim Bieler) Subject: Re: Bike mags Ya gotta love "PB". When was the last time you saw a North American bike magazine write an in-depth article on how to do wheelies? Or stoppies? Or getting your knee down? Or on survivors of gruesome accidents with full-color grisly photos of their wounds? Try also "Road Racing World". Can be super technical, but then, that's not a bad thing. "Cycle Canada" is solid and reliable, too. ------------------------ Kim Bieler American Writing Corp. Washington, DC kim@XXXXXX '80 CB650 '90 FZR600 ------------------------ From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 19 16:17:36 1996 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:15:20 -0500 From: Warren Weiss Subject: Kawasaki Concours To: DC Cycles Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT OK, Let's pretend I haven't been paying attention to all the mail traffic concerning sport/touring bikes like the Concours... I never really considered purchasing a Concours until lately, because it always struck me as a somewhat large and heavy machine - more oriented towards touring than sport. How do you owners out there rate the bike? What are some of your likes and dislikes? What are the general dimensions and weight. What about maintenance? How would you rate its ease of maintenance? TIA -- ************************************************************************ Warren W. Weiss VMI '87 wweiss@XXXXXX AMA # 409056 weiss@XXXXXX Hughes Information Technology Company Ride: '85 VF700F Interceptor Upper Marlboro, MD Deus Ex Machina Think For Yourself and Question Authority Anonymous ************************************************************************ From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 20 13:51:14 1996 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 10:49:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Justin V. Laubach" Subject: BMW Price estimate In-reply-to: <960311104642_165724171@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: DC Cycles MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT My brother is looking at a 1986 BMW K100, full fairing, hard luggage, Sport-touring bike (I'm not sure the letters, probably RS or RT). It has about 30,000 and is in very good shape. Any idea of what an average price for this bike would be? I think the guy is asking $4000. for it. Anybody have a K bike of that series? TIA from, Justin V. Laubach (JLaubach@XXXXXX) 92 Yamaha Seca II From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 20 23:18:12 1996 From: RIdeY@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 23:17:39 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike Mags In a message dated 96-03-19 11:22:04 EST, you write: >I could not agree more. Go to your local newsstand or upscale >bookstore and try to get from the UK. Funny >and interesting, and fortunately contains material that could offend >some people, unlike CW etc. Also sometimes >has some interesting stuff also. > > Hey Steve, Do they contain stuff about DP bikes too (I like reading of sport bikes etc but that is not my main "thing"). Niv From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 21 00:35:35 1996 From: RIdeY@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 00:35:07 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike mags In a message dated 96-03-19 19:59:02 EST, kim@XXXXXX (Kim Bieler) writes: >Ya gotta love "PB". When was the last time you saw a North American bike >magazine write an in-depth article on how to do wheelies? Or stoppies? Or >getting your knee down? Or on survivors of gruesome accidents with >full-color grisly photos of their wounds? > >Try also "Road Racing World". Can be super technical, but then, that's not >a bad thing. "Cycle Canada" is solid and reliable, too. > >-- Hey Kim, Where do you get these in D.C.? Niv DR650 From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 21 09:39:49 1996 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 09:39:35 -0500 (EST) From: Marasco Newton Group To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Where to get good bike mags In-Reply-To: <960320231750_357412149@emout09.mail.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've found Performance Bikes, Street Fighter, Classic Motorcycle Mechanic, and Motorcycle International (my vote getter for the best) from the following places: Borders Super Crown Books Myers Cycle I've found Cycle News and American Roadracing only at bike shops like Myers Cycle, Cycles USA, Battley (Rockville Harley). BTW, be prepared to pay $5.95 for the Brit mags. Shame isn't it. Bryndyn email: mng@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." CB-1, RZ350 From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 21 10:27:35 1996 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 10:23:44 EST From: W.Michael.DiTullio@XXXXXX To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Where to get good bike mags Organization: Loral FSC News-Software: UReply 3.1 In a previous message, you wrote: >I've found Performance Bikes, Street Fighter, Classic Motorcycle Mechanic, >and Motorcycle International (my vote getter for the best) from the >following places: > >Borders >Super Crown Books >Myers Cycle > >I've found Cycle News and American Roadracing only at bike shops like >Myers Cycle, Cycles USA, Battley (Rockville Harley). > >BTW, be prepared to pay $5.95 for the Brit mags. Shame isn't it. > >Bryndyn email: mng@XXXXXX Or, you could do what I do. Go to the coffee shop area of the large bookstores and buy one of those bottomless cups of coffee and sit down for a couple of hours and read all those expensive imported bike mags while you enjoy your java. The perfect way to spend an afternoon during the winter months. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Mike DiTullio |All opinions are my own, and I have | |ditullio@XXXXXX |thousands of them to donate...ask me. | |spazman@XXXXXX |Atlantic City, NJ | |1-800-AMA-JOIN |87 VW-GTI, 89 Hawk-GT, 95 ST1100 STOC# 105 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 21 10:32:52 1996 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:32:47 -0500 (EST) From: Marasco Newton Group To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Where to get good bike mags In-Reply-To: <9603211527.AA41198@inetgw.fsc.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Mar 1996 W.Michael.DiTullio@XXXXXX wrote: > In a previous message, you wrote: > >I've found Performance Bikes, Street Fighter, Classic Motorcycle Mechanic, > >and Motorcycle International (my vote getter for the best) from the > >following places: > > > >Borders > >Super Crown Books > >Myers Cycle > > > >I've found Cycle News and American Roadracing only at bike shops like > >Myers Cycle, Cycles USA, Battley (Rockville Harley). > > > >BTW, be prepared to pay $5.95 for the Brit mags. Shame isn't it. > > > >Bryndyn email: mng@XXXXXX > Reply-To: ditullio@XXXXXX > > Or, you could do what I do. Go to the coffee shop area of the large bookstores > and buy one of those bottomless cups of coffee and sit down for a couple of > hours and read all those expensive imported bike mags while you enjoy your > java. > > The perfect way to spend an afternoon during the winter months. But then what would I have to read in the bathroom? Bryndyn email: mng@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." CB-1, RZ350 From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 21 17:00:19 1996 From: THOMASONCO@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:59:47 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Bike Auction Is this good new or bad news? Coleman, in Falls Church, is having a bike auction this Saturday at 10:00 am. I saw an ad in this weeks issue of the "Want Ads". I called Coleman to confirm. Every purchase is "as is". Does anyone have any experience making a purchase with Coleman involved? TIA (Thanks in advance) Dallas From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 21 22:05:07 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:05:21 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: Bike mags At 12:35 AM 3/21/96 -0500, RIdeY@XXXXXX wrote: >>Try also "Road Racing World". Can be super technical, but then, that's not >>a bad thing. "Cycle Canada" is solid and reliable, too. And of course the cheapest way to get Roadracing World (dedicated to racing and sport bikes) is to join MARRC (the local cornerworking club) and get Roadracing world for FREE. MARRC dues are $20 per year and you get my very own awesome cool MARRC newsletter as a member. rich From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 22 09:48:27 1996 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 09:50:08 -0500 From: "Norwicke, Glenn" Sender: "Norwicke, Glenn" Organization: APA To: seriders@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Daytona X-mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.00 MHS to SMTP Gateway Anyone know what time TNN is showing the race on Saturday? Glenn 93'CBR600 From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 22 10:40:06 1996 From: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:39:42 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: British Bike Day/Olney Anybody know the date of British Bike Day in Olney this year? For those of you unfamiliar with this event, you may want to check it out. It is basically a show of restored, unrestored, and modified English bikes, plus a good flea market. I would say that about 4000 people go, so the bike parking area is one heckuva good show too, containing anything from Lambrettas to Bimotas and everything in between; japanese, german, american, english, italian, you name it, there is one in the parking lot If you love bikes and like to be around fellow motorcyclists of every possible stripe, you will enjoy this. I consider it the premier motorcycle event in the DC area. Costs about $7.00 to get in and you can buy food there. Usually held in mid-May. Steve From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 22 11:37:15 1996 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 11:10:48 EST X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Frank George" Subject: re:British Bike Day/Olney ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:SRFox@XXXXXX Anybody know the date of British Bike Day in Olney this year? ===================================================================== Just as importantly, WHERE will British Bike Day be held? My understanding is that it will no longer be held at the old location. To anyone who hasn't been, you're missing a blast! Its motorhead heaven. You'll see just as many interesting bikes in the parking lot as in the show. Its also great to see people who actually ride their old bikes on a daily basis (met a guy who rode his Vincent in from Pennsylvania). If anyone in the Richmond (VA) is interested in hooking up, we usually leave town around 8:00AM (depending on how much fun we had the night before), and head back late afternoon. The unofficial departure point is a friend's house near Broad & Boulevard. Drop a line if interested. Frank George fegeorge@XXXXXX fgeorge@XXXXXX Reynolds Metals Company / Corporate Engineering "opinions are mine, ... mailbox is the company's" From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 22 14:49:22 1996 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:49:21 GMT From: leavitt@XXXXXX (Mr. Bill) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, SRFox@XXXXXX Subject: Re: British Bike Day/Olney SRFox@XXXXXX (Steve) writes: > ... so the bike parking area is one heckuva good show too, containing > anything from Lambrettas to Bimotas and everything in between; japanese, > german, american, english, italian, you name it, there is one in the > parking lot There'll be Amazonas motorcycles there? Okay, how 'bout Boss Hoss? :-) It's definitely a good event. I used to go every year or two, but it now conflicts with another event so I've missed the last three. Just wear old boots you won't mind getting covered in oil-soaked mud. ;-) Mr. Bill -- Bill Leavitt leavitt@XXXXXX | "Blow it out your ass, motorcycle man! AMA, ICOA, Lemans, KTC, DoD #0224 | I am THE DEVIL, do you UNDERSTAND?" HON: 82 CBX, 79 CX500C KAW: 72 H2 |________--Frank Zappa, "Titties & Beer" SUZ: 82 GS850G, 76 RE5, 75 RE5, 75 RE5, 73 GT380 "More bikes than brains!" From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 22 23:03:27 1996 X-Sender: poppo@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 23:13:34 +0800 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Ralph Young Subject: re:British Bike Day/Olney British bike Day, formerly in Olney, Md., will be held this year at Butler's Orchard in Germantown, Md. on May 19 from 10a.m. until 6p.m. rain or shine. One way of getting there is 355N to Route27. R on 27 to Brink Rd.(1/2 mi.). R on Brink Rd. to Wildcat Rd. ((1/2 mi.). L on Wildcat Rd. to Davis Mill Rd. (1 mi.). L on Davis Mill Rd. to Butler's Orchard (1/4 mi.). Ralph "Poppo" Young Alexandria From dc-cycles-request Sat Mar 23 07:22:41 1996 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 07:18:27 -0700 From: lucas.m@XXXXXX (Mark Lucas) Organization: National Multimedia Association of America X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SRFox@XXXXXX CC: DC Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: British Bike Day/Olney Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit British Bike Day is May 19. $10.00 general admission. Call 301/253-0475 for information. There is a full page ad in the March/April issue of Motorcycle Times which is available at most bike shops. -- ====================================================================== \ Peace, + lucas.m@XXXXXX / / Mark J. Lucas + http://www.nmaa.org/member/lucas/index.htm \ ===================================================================== From dc-cycles-request Sat Mar 23 08:26:23 1996 From: Dark Hacker Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 08:26:15 -0500 (EST) To: dc-cycles-owner@XXXXXX Subject: am I still on the list? Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Hi there. I haven't gotten any dc-cycles stuff for a long time. Am I still on the list? Could the maintainer drop me a line and tell me what the scoop is? I'd like to get a digext of the past two weeks too. I think I've missed a lot of stuff. Thanks. - Hacker From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 26 10:15:41 1996 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:15:18 -0500 (EST) From: TED ROBERTS Subject: another Coleman story To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-VMS-To: IN%"dc-cycles@XXXXXX" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I got a birthday card and coupon for a surprise gift from Coleman Power Sports. Yay. Of course, it didn't arrive in my mailbox until this weekend and I didn't see it until I came back into town yesterday, which was when the coupon expired. Boo. Ted. From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 26 12:24:50 1996 From: hacker@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:21:05 -0500 (EST) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: need a reply from this list's admin Would the maintqainer of this list PLEASE send me some mail. I'm not receiving any dc-cycles stuff and I'm afraid that I've been inadvertently been dropped from the list. I haven't received anything in three weeks. - Hacker From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 26 14:26:11 1996 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:26:09 -0500 (EST) From: tale@XXXXXX (David C Lawrence) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Motorcycle Poker Run for MDA Ok, I'm sorry about this. This is the last time you hear about this poker run from me, I promise. This is a resend of a resend of a message I sent a couple of weeks ago. The ride is now Sunday, this weekend. Registration time is 9:30am to 11am, with everyone leavingby 11:30am and everyone back by 5pm. The real ride got rescheduled on St. Patrick's Day because the friendly weatherman forecasted rain and _sleet_. I had nearly a dozen people tell me they were coming, but only two really showed up because of the crummy weather. As it turned out, a grand total of five of us showed for the ride, and ride it we did. We took the "interesting" route of back roads and it was unanimously agreed that it was a pretty good route (except for one crappy road which has been mapped out in a revised route). None of the prizes were awarded, so everything is still available. Incidentally, we also didn't get rained or sleeted on. The long range forecast, for what it is worth, is supposedly dry and in the 50s. The "simple" route is a mere 85 miles and a little under two hours of saddle time on the obvious roads to get you through to the stops. The "interesting" route comes out to about 135 miles on mostly back roads. Don't worry, if you ride a Sportster or some other bike that measures its tank capacity in milliliters instead of gallons, there will be petrol stops on the way. Please come all gassed up and ready to go. My group will be the first to leave at about 11am. PS: some people seem to associate "Poker Run" with "Harley-Davidson Ride", and maybe they usually are. All bikes are welcome. ================ There will be a charity poker run starting from the Sign of the Whale at Loehmann's Plaza (Rt 50 about a mile inside the VA side of the Beltway). It will go to stops in Great Falls, Leesburg, Middleburg, and Fair Lakes before returning to Loehmann's. I'm responsible for the route plan and I'm making the most fun one I can considering the significantly suburban and exurban setting. For those of you unfamiliar with what a poker run is, it's basically just an excuse for a bunch of guys to get together and ride. It's not a parade type thing, though, such that it is expected all riders will stay together at all time. There's a planned route with stops at which each rider gets to pick one card to add to his or her hand (two cards if you have two hands). You get a total of six cards, discard the worst one to make the best hand you can. The best hands win prizes. The prizes are decent, probably worth at least the entry fee, but nothing spectacular. Bruce is projecting to raise at least 500$ for MDA from this event. Drinks and snacks will be available throughout the ride. The flyer is reproduced below. Well, it's not exactly like the real flyer, but it works. Motorcycle Poker Run to benefit Jerry's Kids, the Muscular Dystrophy Association Sunday, March 31, 1996 9:30 to 11am registration everyone out by 11:30 everyone in by 5pm (No Rain-Outs, but you may choose to use a vehicle other than a motorcycle if you want.) $20 Entry Fee for One Poker Hand (2nd Hand $10) includes commemorative T-Shirt & chance at door prizes Prizes for top three hands: Dinner for 2 at Ruth Chris Steak House, Arlington, VA Dinner for 2 at That's Amore, Vienna, VA Dinner for 2 at Lightfoot Cafe, Leesburg, VA 50-50 & dozens of door prizes & surprises special prize for most Irish outfit and oldest motorcycle 85 to 135 miles of fun For Details Call Bruce, 703 573 1616 Steering Committee: David Lawrence -- UUNET Michal Mutter - Birch, Stewart, Kolasch & Birch Dress Warm * Ride Sober * Ride Smart Sign of the Whale Restaurant 7279 Arlington Blvd, Loehmann's Plaza, Falls Church VA 22042 From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 26 16:23:35 1996 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:23:27 -0500 (EST) From: Donald DiPaula To: Balt/DC Motorcyclists , dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: John Cooper Subject: old bike stolen, new one comin' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII as most of you probably know, my 1994 suzuki rf900r was stolen from my apartment complex parking lot last month (fountain club apartments in new carrollton, md). the insurance company royally reamed me on the value (original out-the-door cost was about $8100; they're valueing it at about $6400). the good news is i found a replacement: a new 1995 honda cbr600f3. not as much bike as the suzuki was, but it'll force me to develop my skills a little more and rely on the engine a little less. also, i expect to switch to state farm insurance this year; the smaller engine should be a bonus there, as well. (necessary also since i'll lose my claim-free renewal discount from universal). the bad news is i don't know what to do to keep this one from being stolen like the last one was. our lot is separated from the street by buildings, i had the bike covered w/ disc locks on the front and rear discs, and the lot was covered in snow when someone took it in the middle of the night. every sunny day since has had me gnashing my teeth in frustration. would an alarm have made any difference? has anyone actually had their bike saved from a theft attempt by an alarm? counting down the days 'til i get the ins. check... -D- From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 27 10:16:28 1996 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 10:21:50 EST From: cnorloff@XXXXXX (Chris Norloff) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: old bike stolen, new one comin' Whew! Sounds like you're doing all the right things to keep your bike. But when you have something that people want to steal ... Anyway, a few ideas, in no great order (and some are less feasible than others!): 1. Lock the bike to an 'immovable object' -- use a strong chain, that does not lie on the ground (thieves put one handle of boltcutters on the ground and jump on the other one to make it easier to cut a chain). 2. Alarm- you'll make A LOT of enemies with an alarm, and the thieves may not care (picking up a bike and carrying it takes half a minute). Maybe get an alarm with a remote pager that notifies you. 3. Park the bike in a better area -- maybe at a friends place. Maybe ask maintenance about storing it with their yard tools. Maybe put it in a laundry room, or a storage area. Perhaps park it in front of the office. 4. Park the bike inside something -- a van, a shed, a portable shelter. Anything so it's harder to tell if the bike is there or not. 5. Rent a storage area (by yourself of with others) and keep the bike there. good luck! Chris Norloff >the bad news is i don't know what to do to keep this one from being stolen >like the last one was. our lot is separated from the street by buildings, i >had the bike covered w/ disc locks on the front and rear discs, and the lot >was covered in snow when someone took it in the middle of the night. every >sunny day since has had me gnashing my teeth in frustration. would an alarm >have made any difference? has anyone actually had their bike saved from a >theft attempt by an alarm? From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 27 11:46:07 1996 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 11:46:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: richwest@XXXXXX (Rich Westbrook) Subject: Re: old bike stolen, new one comin' >the bad news is i don't know what to do to keep this one from being stolen >like the last one was. our lot is separated from the street by buildings, i >had the bike covered w/ disc locks on the front and rear discs, and the lot >was covered in snow when someone took it in the middle of the night. every >sunny day since has had me gnashing my teeth in frustration. would an alarm >have made any difference? has anyone actually had their bike saved from a >theft attempt by an alarm? I wonder if the Lojack sytem would work? I have only heard about it on commercials but it sounds like a good idea. There is some kind of homing device on your bike or car that the police can turn on and track if you report it stolen. I have no idea about price, size, availablity, but if it is good as it sounds then it could be woth looking into. Rich From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 27 12:19:40 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 12:20:00 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sash@XXXXXX (Michael A. Dow) Subject: Re: Lojack (Was Re: old bike stolen, new one comin') Right now, I think LoJack is only available for autos, and the cost is a whopping $595 (but you do get a regular alarm with it). I am considering getting this system for my Jeep, but the cost is slightly prohibitive. The one advantage that it has is that it DOESN'T attempt to disable the ignition. I have heard horror stories of cars getting trashed out of spite, when the thief couldn't get it started. The disadvantage is that you have to KNOW that your car has been stolen -- this may be hours after the fact, if it happened in the middle of the night. A good chopping organization can have a car in bits in a couple of hours. And who knows how long it would take the police to actually activate the homing device? If it becomes available for bikes, it might definitely be worth investigating. One would hope that the cost would be a lot less for a bike, but that would not necessarily be the case. My 2 bits. -Sash >I wonder if the Lojack sytem would work? I have only heard about it on >commercials but it sounds like a good idea. There is some kind of homing >device on your bike or car that the police can turn on and track if you >report it stolen. I have no idea about price, size, availablity, but if it >is good as it sounds then it could be woth looking into. > >Rich Michael "Sash" Dow NIMH/DIRP/LN Building 49 Room 1B80 49 Convent Dr MSC 4115 Bethesda, MD 20892-4115 Phone: (301) 496-5625 x259 Fax: (301) 402-0046 _________________________________________ Email: sash@XXXXXX sash@XXXXXX sash@XXXXXX sashd@XXXXXX _________________________________________ Opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the United States Government or its agencies. From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 27 14:26:11 1996 From: sanjay@XXXXXX Subject: maryland msf office To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:26:08 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn3.1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit greetings, this may be a little bit off-topic, so please bear with me. i need to get a replacement copy of my msf beginners course certificate, which i obtained in may 93 in MD. (for insurance discount) is there a way to get in touch directly with the office, or a person who works there? beats calling the 800 number and getting shuttled around. TIA sanjay ----- Sanjay Sinha Resident of Washington D.C. DoD #1224 Statistically speaking, i'm safer in Beirut. CB 650 'The Cow' standard disclaimers apply. From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 27 16:27:50 1996 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:27:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Justin V. Laubach" Subject: Re: maryland msf office In-reply-to: <9603271926.AA48192@ssc> To: DC Cycles MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I don't know the answer to this question, but it made me wonder how long an MSF class entitles one to a discount. Is it only for a year after the class? or is it good forever? Anybody know? I guess MMMV TIA, Justin > > this may be a little bit off-topic, so please bear with me. > > i need to get a replacement copy of my msf beginners course > certificate, which i obtained in may 93 in MD. (for insurance > discount) > > is there a way to get in touch directly with the office, or a person > who works there? beats calling the 800 number and getting shuttled > around. From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 27 17:14:45 1996 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 17:14:51 -0500 X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: maryland msf office I'll take a shot at these two questions. >> is there a way to get in touch directly with the office, or a person >> who works there? beats calling the 800 number and getting shuttled >> around. The Maryland MSF office really isn't all that big. By the time you get shuttled around twice, they'll probably run out of people to send you to. I'd just call the 800 number. >I don't know the answer to this question, but it made me wonder how long >an MSF class entitles one to a discount. Is it only for a year after the >class? or is it good forever? I would guess forever. As long as you ride every year, you SHOULD continue to improve, therefore the discount ought to remain valid. OTOH if you stop riding for 10 years, your insurance company might ask you to take it again. Leon. mrider@XXXXXX begeman@XXXXXX 1983 Honda CX650C 124Kmiles 1983 Honda GL650I 71Kmiles 1978 Honda CB400A 16Kmiles From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 27 17:28:35 1996 From: "Osidach, Vera Z." To: "'dc cycles - all'" Subject: looking for an old(er) mc Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 17:22:00 EST Encoding: 16 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 I just found out that a friend, who's not on this list, is interested in buying an "old beater bike" or some variation thereof. %-) Unfortunately, I haven't been paying attention to the 'for sale' posts recently, so sorry about repetition. At any rate, does anyone have any information on acquiring any of the following bikes at a price around $300 - $1000? There's not a problem if they need a little mechanical work and/or have a few scratches. TIA. -Vo -------------------------------- In order of preference: - SOHC CB750 Super Sport (SS), '75 (?) thru '78 - Kaw 900 or 1000, any year from '76 to '82 - Just about anything 650 or larger; price and condition are the most important criteria. From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 27 19:04:40 1996 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:05:17 -0800 X-Sender: dbyker@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: dbyker Subject: Motorcycle Cable Locks I don't know about bike alarms, but I've been checking out cable locks (like Kryptonite) recently. I like the idea of cable locks because, unlike alarm systems, they're non-invasive to my bike's electrical system. I finally went to Harley-Davidson of Washington, in Oxon Hills MD, figuring a Harley dealer would have some good bike locks. The best cable lock I found there is called a 'Cobralinks'. They have other brands as well. The Cobralinks is a steel braided cable, with a stainless steel (or chrome, not sure which) outer layer, and a substantial looking key lock. It's hard to describe, but I've never seen anything that looked more theftproof. The H-D dealer recommended it. IMO, only a very determined and knowledgeable thief would even try to break that cable. Of course, you should chain your bike to something solid for maximum security. The Cobralinks comes in 6', 8', 10' and 12' lengths, 3/4" or 1" outside diameter, weighs 10-15 pounds, and rolls up into an 11" coil so you can take it with you on your bike. You can call the manufacturer (708-640-1700) and order it directly for yourself cheaper than the H-D dealer will sell it to you. I called and priced an 8', 3/4" diameter cable direct from the manufacturer for around $179. If you ride an expensive bike, this might be cheap insurance, as well as providing peace of mind. No, I don't sell Cobralinks. I just wanted to pass this info along in case it helps. I hate to see anyone have their bike stolen. >as most of you probably know, my 1994 suzuki rf900r was stolen from my apartment >complex parking lot last month (fountain club apartments in new carrollton, md). >the bad news is i don't know what to do to keep this one from being stolen >like the last one was. our lot is separated from the street by buildings, i >had the bike covered w/ disc locks on the front and rear discs, and the lot >was covered in snow when someone took it in the middle of the night. every >sunny day since has had me gnashing my teeth in frustration. would an alarm >have made any difference? has anyone actually had their bike saved from a >theft attempt by an alarm? From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 27 21:54:19 1996 X-Sender: tarjan@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:54:44 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Tarjan Subject: Forsale Suzuki gs500ep I really need to sell my bike in the next 2 weeks... Its a Suzuki GS500e, purchased new from Cycles USA in august of 93. It is black, and runs great. I dont have a license plate on it, so I can ride you around the block a couple of times if you want, but I cannot take you on the road. PLEASE give me a call 301/996-2476 cell/work or 703/810-1878 (real work, but not there very often) or email me here.. Thanks, Scot Kight Scot '95 Ducati 900ss/cr - Yoshimura Pipes/Stage II Jetkit/KN Airfilter - And soon a powerbronze dual light system! ----Trying to decide on a vanity license plate------------------------ ilvmyduc dctirls ducati Hmm maybe they can copy the same ones as a car.. I know someone with a plate that says What cop That takes balls... and alot of stupidity :> From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 28 09:10:12 1996 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 09:08:34 EST From: "Daren Magness" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Gettysburg Ride I deleted the original message concerning the upcoming ride to Gettysburg. I think the start point was Point of Rocks, MD but when and where (like I would miss more than three motorcycles). Please advise! Daren From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 28 14:22:17 1996 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 13:56:45 EST From: "Daren Magness" To: 75460.2502@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, jcuevas@XXXXXX, lac013@XXXXXX, macy@XXXXXX, Mrobts@XXXXXX, peted@XXXXXX, prime@XXXXXX, resinc@XXXXXX, Rivera_Robbie@XXXXXX, roapuno@XXXXXX, rrivera@XXXXXX, David_E_Brown@XXXXXX, Amy_Eastburn@XXXXXX Subject: Internet virus warning FYI This is a copy of a memo circulating around the Internet. A new Trojan horse virus has emerged on the internet with the name >PKZIP300.ZIP, so named as to give the impression that this file is a new >version of the PKZIP software used to ZIP (compress) files. Do not download >this file under any circumstances! If you install or expand this file, >the virus will wipe your hard disk and affect modems at 14.4 and higher. > This is an extremely destructive virus and there is not yet a way of >cleaning up this one. > Repeat: Do not download any file with the name PKZIP300 -- regardless of >the extension. > > The current information that we have regarding the PK Virus is the >following: The PKWare BBS has the following message in their logon banner: > > Do not trust or use ANY version of PKZIP other than 1.10, 1.93, 2.04c, > 2.04e, or 2.04g. All other versions currently circulating on BBSs are > hacks or fakes. Daren From dc-cycles-request Thu Mar 28 21:31:20 1996 Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 21:27:16 -0700 From: lucas.m@XXXXXX (Mark Lucas) Organization: National Multimedia Association of America X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Motorcycle Cable Locks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Checking out the motorcycle lock review in Motorcycle Consumer News (April '94) they rated Cobralinks 7' a 4 out of 5. Very solid lock, but at the time the list price was $142.95 and it weighs 8 lbs. 145 oz. Although that would be a small price to pay for a secure bike! Good Luck! dbyker said: to Harley-Davidson of Washington, in Oxon Hills MD, figuring a Harley dealer would have some good bike locks. The best cable lock I found there is called a 'Cobralinks'. They have other brands as well. The Cobralinks is a steel braided cable, with a stainless steel (or chrome, not sure which) outer layer, and a substantial looking key lock. It's hard to describe, but I've never seen anything that looked more theftproof. -- ====================================================================== \ Peace, + lucas.m@XXXXXX / / Mark J. Lucas + http://www.nmaa.org/member/lucas/index.htm \ ===================================================================== From dc-cycles-request Fri Mar 29 09:10:16 1996 From: "McLoone, William J." To: DC-Cycles List Subject: RE: Gettysburg Ride Date: Fri, 29 Mar 96 09:06:00 EST Encoding: 32 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 > I deleted the original message concerning the upcoming ride to > Gettysburg. I think the start point was Point of Rocks, MD but when > and where (like I would miss more than three motorcycles). > Daren Here is the info on the CAM ride this Saturday as copied from John's message: [begin copied text] speaking of riding, here's the deal for our 30 mar ride to gettysburg: o meet at the silver diner at 0730 for breakfast o leave diner at 0830 o arrive point of rocks, md (at the marc station) to meet the md'ers at 0930 o leave point of rocks via rt 15 at 0945 o arrive gettysburg at about 1100 according to the brochure i have, we should plan on about 3-4 hours to do the battlefield tour. i hope to see you on saturday. we'll ride as long as the temp is above 35 and it's not raining. if the temp is colder, we may do a shorter ride. [end copied text] Bill McLoone '82 Susuki GS-450TXz (SOLD) '81 Yamaha XS-11H (50% mine) Burtonsville, MD USA '82 Kawasaki KZ-750E (all mine) 1-800-AMA-JOIN BK-MD I "Ride with Pride" From dc-cycles-request Sun Mar 31 18:01:09 1996 MR-Received: by mta WBHQB1; Relayed; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:58:57 +0000 MR-Received: by mta GATEWY; Relayed; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:57:35 +0000 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:56:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Perry Coleman Subject: Olney British Bike days To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Posting-date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:58:00 +0000 (GMT) Importance: normal Priority: normal UA-content-id: B1412ZWFUPOT7J X400-MTS-identifier: [;75852213306991/8224612@WBHQB] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 2 All, I know that someone just posted the pertinent facts about where, when and how much for the British Bike Days in Olney, but I've lost it. Would someone take pity on me and send me the date and location again. I have a friend (off the net) who wants to go up there with his tricked-out, "restored" Norton/Atlas and I told him I would try and get the specifics. TIA! Perry