From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 1 12:25:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h21HP6Xo019429; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:25:06 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h21HP3t2019419; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:25:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030301172445.51572.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 09:24:45 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: two things.... To: Tom Gimer Cc: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20030301004440.7555.qmail@web41113.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Say that to my face pussy. I mean it. And leave you lawyer badge at home --- Tom Gimer wrote: > just checking in. been a while since i last posted, > but i > have been keeping loose track of some of the > threads. i > have two observations to make as a result of the > recent > list activity: > 1. i couldn't possibly care less who rode today, > yesterday, or the day before. there appear to be 3 > people > that actually give a shit. > 2. fuck kitchell. > > > > -- > tg > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 1 14:08:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h21J87Xo021150; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:08:07 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h21J8272021134; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:08:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <000d01c2e025$d1194060$6501a8c0@lap1> From: "Bruce" Cc: "DC Cycles" References: <20030301172445.51572.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: two things.... Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:07:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Ooooooooo. Everyone meet behind the school after class! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kitchell" > Say that to my face pussy. > > I mean it. And leave you lawyer badge at home > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > just checking in. been a while since i last posted, > > but i > > have been keeping loose track of some of the > > threads. i > > have two observations to make as a result of the > > recent > > list activity: > > 1. i couldn't possibly care less who rode today, > > yesterday, or the day before. there appear to be 3 > > people > > that actually give a shit. > > 2. fuck kitchell. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 1 14:56:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h21JuLXo022626; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:56:21 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h21JuLPw022616; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:56:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <002501c2e02e$82b23630$0500a8c0@ELECTRAGLIDE> From: "Kathleen Loerich" Cc: "DC Cycles" References: <20030301172445.51572.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> <000d01c2e025$d1194060$6501a8c0@lap1> Subject: Cabin Fever Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 15:09:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 And cabin fever sets in for the long haul... =8^) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce" Cc: "DC Cycles" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 2:07 PM Subject: Re: two things.... > Ooooooooo. Everyone meet behind the school after class! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Kitchell" > > > > Say that to my face pussy. > > > > I mean it. And leave you lawyer badge at home > > > > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > > just checking in. been a while since i last posted, > > > but i > > > have been keeping loose track of some of the > > > threads. i > > > have two observations to make as a result of the > > > recent > > > list activity: > > > 1. i couldn't possibly care less who rode today, > > > yesterday, or the day before. there appear to be 3 > > > people > > > that actually give a shit. > > > 2. fuck kitchell. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 1 15:07:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h21K77Xo025165; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 15:07:07 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h21K7730025153; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 15:07:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030301140521.033508f8@mail.mac.com> X-Sender: eternity23@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 14:07:11 -0600 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: two things.... In-Reply-To: <20030301172445.51572.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030301004440.7555.qmail@web41113.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Ok, I want a clean fight! Nothing below the belt.... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 1 15:56:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h21KuMXo026562; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 15:56:22 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h21KuLAr026552; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 15:56:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030301141205.00b77f00@mail.mac.com> X-Sender: eternity23@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 14:56:25 -0600 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, erin Harper From: Sean Jordan Subject: How my Saturday ride turned into a Safari In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030301140521.033508f8@mail.mac.com> References: <20030301172445.51572.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> <20030301004440.7555.qmail@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed So after not riding for the last 6 weeks, there finally came a convergence of right time, money, and weather to fix my bike (electrical gremlins) and go out for a ride. Since moving out to wonderful, wide, Murfreesboro Tennessee, (ok, it's neither wide nor wonderful), I haven't had the opportunity to go exploring. We've had nothing but solid rain and cold out here for the past two weeks, and today dawned with an overcast sky, with NO precipitation and temperatures in the mid to high 50's. I had heard of a road that leads out of town into a scenic, pastoral area, and decided I'd take a look. First major observation: There are no curved roads in this part of Tennessee. I don't think I've seen a obtusely angled turn or corner since I moved here. This road had some nice elevation changes, and some occasional deviations from its arrow-straight path, but nothing I would consider a corner. However, I was getting to ride, and it was a rather nice day, so it wasn't too disappointing. The CBR surged up and over a small ridge, and I was greeted by a short stretch of farms with a few small, brick ranch-style homes. Reaching the end of the row, I saw some sort of lawn-ornament animal off the right shoulder, about 25 yards ahead. Slowing down for a closer look, (in retrospect, very glad that I did!), the lawn-creature began to move, then suddenly sprung into my path. Long, tawny pen-feathers spread out into a wingspan of four feet or better...this was a large bird! The wings were followed by a long train of brightly colored tail feathers greater than the length of the rest of the bird. The strange animal continued its frenzied flight to the other side of the road while I continued to haul the Honda to a stop. Craning my neck around to my left, a now calm, fully grown Peacock pecked at the grass at the side of the road. I continued to stare in total amazement. The bird appeared to be quite healthy, and was probably the most stunning specimen of peacockdom I had ever seen. Assuming that this was someone's escaped pet or breeding animal, I went back to the nearest house where a farmer was walking his grounds with one of his dogs. "How's it going? Would you or any of your neighbors happen to raise peacocks? There's one walking around in the road right now." The farmer shrugged and said "Nope. It's just wild." "Wild?!" While my knowledge of American flora and fauna is not the greatest, I had never heard of the Wild Tennessee Peacock. "Did they get loose? Did someone abandon them out here?" "I don't rightly know", returned the farmer, "they've been here longer than I have." "How do they survive?" "They're a bird. They survive the same way other birds do." "Ah....ok." I told the farmer to take it easy, and put my gloves and helmet back on. Rolling to the end of his driveway, I looked to the left, then the right, and began to pull out back onto the road when I stopped dead in my tracks. Glaring at me from across the street was a pair or Bison. Actually, there was a small head of Buffalo, but only two were glaring at me. These must have been the two most influential of the Buffalo, because shortly after, the Zebras came over to take a look at me too. Thankfully, these beasts were confined behind a rather sturdy fence, and seemed to have no desire to run about in traffic like the flighty peacock. At this point, I decided I had better go back home while my luck held out. Who knows what I was going to see next. At that point I fully expected The Crocodile Hunter to come charging out of the brush before pausing, swaying on his crouched legs, and sweating slightly while pointing at my bike and exclaiming "CRIKEY! That's the most poisonous Honda in the Northern Hemisphere! Look at the size of her! Boy, ain't she a beaut!" I'm staying closer to town next time. Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 1 16:46:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h21Lk3Xo029507; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:46:03 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h21Lk2Zg029493; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:46:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030301214600.18636.qmail@web13901.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:46:00 -0800 (PST) From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "Adam Wah" wrote: To: MLynch@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles@XXXXXX >You didn't even have to hit a CVS, ABC or local ol' >likker locker would have been just fine... maybe >better! (For the single malt drinkers in the crowd:) Finally -- a good use for that bottle of Loch Dhu you've been "saving"! -- Larry __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 1 16:49:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h21LnKXo029572; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:49:20 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h21LnJwA029557; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:49:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030301214917.26770.qmail@web13902.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:49:17 -0800 (PST) From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Who rode? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wayne Edelen wrote: >Screw that. I fired up my snowblower and did my >driveway and walk in about 10 minutes. Hmmm -- I never thought of using a Hayabusa as a snowblower, but it kinda makes sense if you think about it... All those years of listening to Blackbird owners saying "Busas blow" and I never understood what they meant. -- Larry __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 1 16:51:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h21LpOXo030774; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:51:24 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h21LpN7s030759; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:51:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <004201c2e03e$953e7dd0$0500a8c0@ELECTRAGLIDE> From: "Kathleen Loerich" To: Subject: Fw: ABATE: Right-of-Way Violation Penalties Bill (HB 1114/SB 719) Filed Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 17:04:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 FYI: ----- Original Message ----- From: "ABATE of Maryland, Inc." To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 4:57 PM Subject: ABATE: Right-of-Way Violation Penalties Bill (HB 1114/SB 719) Filed > Right-of-Way Violation Penalties Bill (HB 1114/SB 719) > > > > This bill provides for increased penalties for right-of-way violations when > the violation contributes to an accident that results in bodily injury or > death of an another person. > > > > Under current law, the penalty for violating the right-of-way of another > vehicle is $60 and one point against the offenders' license. Even when a > right-of-way violation is combined with another charge like negligent > driving, the maximum fines and penalties for both charges would be $630 and > seven points. > > > > In many accidents of this nature, law enforcement and the courts cannot > justify a higher charge that would include more severe penalties and the > violators are given only minimal fines and penalties. This bill seeks to > give the courts the tools they need to penalize violators appropriately when > serious injury or death occurs. > > > > The bill was filed, but a hearing date has not yet been scheduled. > > > > Additional information about the bill can be located at > > http://mlis.state.md.us/2003rs/billfile/sb0719.htm > > http://mlis.state.md.us/2003rs/billfile/hb1114.htm > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 1 19:30:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h220U9Xo009759; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 19:30:09 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h220U88N009749; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 19:30:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030302003002.67598.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:30:02 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: two things.... To: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles list In-Reply-To: <20030301004440.7555.qmail@web41113.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What is it with all the flame bait lately? Is this the best you guys can come up with? Sheesh. Chris Weaver --- Tom Gimer wrote: > just checking in. been a while since i last posted, > but i > have been keeping loose track of some of the > threads. i > have two observations to make as a result of the > recent > list activity: > 1. i couldn't possibly care less who rode today, > yesterday, or the day before. there appear to be 3 > people > that actually give a shit. > 2. fuck kitchell. > > > > -- > tg > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 1 20:11:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h221BnXo012321; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:11:49 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h221BmFq012306; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:11:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Rob Curtis" To: "'DCCycles'" Subject: Gulf War II: Hitting the Road. Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:11:52 -0500 Message-ID: <001401c2e058$b576c980$6401a8c0@cypher> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030108094158.0205d428@mail.troutman.org> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out001.verizon.net from [141.156.189.53] at Sat, 1 Mar 2003 19:11:38 -0600 Okay- Signing off for a while. I am heading to the Gulf for an extended stay with the 173rd Airborne Brigade... Have a great riding season everyone! Robby C. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Mar 1 20:56:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h221u3Xo017323; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:56:03 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h221u2s2017313; Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:56:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.48.118.251] From: "Rob Keiser" To: rmcurtis@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Gulf War II: Hitting the Road. Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 20:55:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2003 01:55:54.0404 (UTC) FILETIME=[DC1A1640:01C2E05E] Same words......Thank you and God speed! Rob From: "Rob Curtis" To: "'DCCycles'" Subject: Gulf War II: Hitting the Road. Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:11:52 -0500 Okay- Signing off for a while. I am heading to the Gulf for an extended stay with the 173rd Airborne Brigade... Have a great riding season everyone! Robby C. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 08:07:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h22D7iXo002866; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 08:07:44 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h22D7hAk002853; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 08:07:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <003b01c2e0bc$b402efc0$6600a8c0@michael> Reply-To: "Michael Jordan" From: "Michael Jordan" To: , "erin Harper" References: <20030301172445.51572.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> <20030301004440.7555.qmail@web41113.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030301141205.00b77f00@mail.mac.com> Subject: Re: How my Saturday ride turned into a Safari Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 08:07:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-ELNK-Trace: 599158c4802a0bc829d2c221526d1bab239a348a220c2609c0606bed5352be0edcceaba09c74322b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c > We've had nothing but solid rain and cold out here for the past two weeks At least you don't have to shovel rain > There are no curved roads in this part of Tennessee. We'll take care of that in June > This road had some nice elevation changes... We'll have those, too :-) And I'm glad to see that you're expanding your horizons beyone plebian deer - anyone can hit one of those... Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 08:45:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h22Dj9Xo005368; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 08:45:09 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h22Dj8Fh005357; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 08:45:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 08:44:49 -0500 From: Dan Brown Subject: Re: Gulf War II: Hitting the Road. In-reply-to: <001401c2e058$b576c980$6401a8c0@cypher> X-Sender: brown@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030302084407.040bf700@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030108094158.0205d428@mail.troutman.org> At 08:11 PM 3/1/2003 -0500, Rob Curtis wrote: >Okay- Signing off for a while. I am heading to the Gulf for an extended stay >with the 173rd Airborne Brigade... Have a great riding season everyone! Keep your wits about you and come home safe. -- Resist or Serve From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 10:26:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h22FQoXo008663; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:26:50 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h22FQnA7008653; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:26:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:44:22 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Who rode? In-Reply-To: <20030301214917.26770.qmail@web13902.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Larry Larson wrote: > Hmmm -- I never thought of using a Hayabusa as a > snowblower, but it kinda makes sense if you think > about it... All those years of listening to Blackbird > owners saying "Busas blow" and I never understood what they > meant. > > -- Larry Is this what's become of dc-cycles? Mark hurling insults at all MD/VA residents, Tom hurling insults at Mark, Mark using his best Internet muscles to challenge Tom? And now we insult each other's rides? :-\ -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 10:49:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h22FnTXo011146; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:49:29 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h22FnSl9011136; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:49:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00ab01c2e0d3$3a53ffe0$20fea8c0@BIGHAMMER1> From: "Dave Yates" To: References: Subject: Re: Who rode? Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:48:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-ELNK-Trace: 956056117932dab21aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79c885ef508c86586a3c4bba64c567b7aa350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Wayne wondered: > > Is this what's become of dc-cycles? Mark hurling insults at all MD/VA > residents, Tom hurling insults at Mark, Mark using his best Internet > muscles to challenge Tom? And now we insult each other's rides? :-\ [Dave] c'mon Wayne. How many times have you heard the term "eyeabuser" ? ;-) Brings to mind, what with all the Parked Motorcycle Syndrome going on... Who's had the most entertaining flame fest ? One has to at least honorably mention Squeakers when researching DCC lore. OTOH, the famous Gimer / Anker exchange was fairly entertaining... Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 10:57:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h22Fv4Xo013564; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:57:04 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h22Fv4nR013549; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:57:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030302155641.36693.qmail@web41108.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 07:56:41 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: two things.... To: Mark Kitchell Cc: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20030301172445.51572.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii that would be pretty damn satisfying -- for me and for the kitchell fan club members flooding my inbox with encouragement. oh, the peer pressure mounts. while i consider pissing away my career over such an honorable cause, please continue your practice of alternating posts between (i) ultrahypersensitive and (ii) thoughtless, offensive drivel. without your social guidance and insight -- the kitchell teachings -- we are really no more than suburban scum. --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > Say that to my face pussy. > > I mean it. And leave you lawyer badge at home > > > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > just checking in. been a while since i last posted, > > but i > > have been keeping loose track of some of the > > threads. i > > have two observations to make as a result of the > > recent > > list activity: > > 1. i couldn't possibly care less who rode today, > > yesterday, or the day before. there appear to be 3 > > people > > that actually give a shit. > > 2. fuck kitchell. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 11:00:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h22G0sXo015963; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:00:54 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h22G0sq1015952; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:00:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:18:26 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Who rode? In-Reply-To: <00ab01c2e0d3$3a53ffe0$20fea8c0@BIGHAMMER1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Dave Yates wrote: > > Is this what's become of dc-cycles? Mark hurling insults at all MD/VA > > residents, Tom hurling insults at Mark, Mark using his best Internet > > muscles to challenge Tom? And now we insult each other's rides? :-\ > > [Dave] c'mon Wayne. How many times have you heard the term "eyeabuser" ? > ;-) Sure, but it's generally good natured ribbing or something along those lines. I truly could not care less what Larry thinks of my choices in vehicles, but the tone of the list is what prompted my response. > Brings to mind, what with all the Parked Motorcycle Syndrome going on... I suppose that may be the cause of all the anger on the list lately. I've been using this down time to make mods on my race car and my motorcycle. I should be ready to race/ride both when the warm/dry weather comes :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 13:38:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h22IcOXo020331; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:38:24 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h22IcHFf020316; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:38:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030302183816.83998.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:38:15 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: two things.... To: Tom Gimer Cc: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20030302155641.36693.qmail@web41108.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii any week day 1646 wisconsin ave you won't though. --- Tom Gimer wrote: > that would be pretty damn satisfying -- for me and > for the > kitchell fan club members flooding my inbox with > encouragement. oh, the peer pressure mounts. > > while i consider pissing away my career over such an > honorable cause, please continue your practice of > alternating posts between (i) ultrahypersensitive > and (ii) > thoughtless, offensive drivel. without your social > guidance and insight -- the kitchell teachings -- we > are > really no more than suburban scum. > > > > > --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > > Say that to my face pussy. > > > > I mean it. And leave you lawyer badge at home > > > > > > > > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > > just checking in. been a while since i last > posted, > > > but i > > > have been keeping loose track of some of the > > > threads. i > > > have two observations to make as a result of the > > > recent > > > list activity: > > > 1. i couldn't possibly care less who rode > today, > > > yesterday, or the day before. there appear to > be 3 > > > people > > > that actually give a shit. > > > 2. fuck kitchell. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 14:44:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h22Ji8Xo023030; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:44:08 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h22Ji5iW023015; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:44:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 14:43:50 -0500 From: Dan Brown Subject: mmm... X-Sender: brown@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030302144242.03cd4c28@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT New battery charged and installed, engine started, cobwebs knocked out of the pipes. :-) -- Resist or Serve From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 14:53:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h22JroXo027897; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:53:50 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h22Jrn10027882; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:53:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20030302144216.028f6910@mail.hq.nasa.gov> X-Sender: cschelin@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 14:43:51 -0500 To: Dan Brown , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Carl Schelin Subject: Re: mmm... In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030302144242.03cd4c28@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Man, I don't even want to fscking hear it. Some problem here at work requires my presence for some length of time. I'm not pleased and since I'm exempt, I don't even get overtime :-/ Someone hit the road for me. Carl At 02:43 PM 3/2/03 -0500, Dan Brown wrote: >New battery charged and installed, engine started, cobwebs knocked >out of the pipes. > >:-) > > >-- >Resist or Serve > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 17:02:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h22M2PXo031998; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 17:02:25 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h22M2Mak031983; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 17:02:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030302220220.11244.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:02:20 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: Gulf War II: Hitting the Road. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Those who don't know Rob may not know what he does for a living - he's a civilian photographer for the Army Times (IIRC). I think it's especially admirable that he's going into harm's way when he has a choice in the matter. Get some good photos, Rob, and don't forget to sit on your helmet when you're in the Huey! Chris Weaver --- Rob Keiser wrote: > Same words......Thank you and God speed! > > Rob (Keiser) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 18:28:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h22NSAXo003775; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:28:10 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h22NS9h2003765; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:28:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030302232806.5665.qmail@web13905.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:28:06 -0800 (PST) From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Gulf War II: Hitting the Road. To: Rob Curtis , "'DCCycles'" In-Reply-To: <001401c2e058$b576c980$6401a8c0@cypher> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Rob Curtis wrote: > Okay- Signing off for a while. I am heading to the Gulf > for an extended stay > with the 173rd Airborne Brigade... Have a great riding > season everyone! Sky Soldiers -- one of my old units from 'Nam. Stay safe. Regards, Larry __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 18:30:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h22NURXo007329; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:30:27 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h22NUQBO007314; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:30:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030302233022.6032.qmail@web13905.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:30:22 -0800 (PST) From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Who rode? To: Wayne Edelen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ummm, joke alert, Wayne. I have neither a Blackbird nor a Busa, and have no amicus either way. -- Larry --- Wayne Edelen wrote: > On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Larry Larson wrote: > > > Hmmm -- I never thought of using a Hayabusa as a > > snowblower, but it kinda makes sense if you think > > about it... All those years of listening to Blackbird > > owners saying "Busas blow" and I never understood what > they > > meant. > > > > -- Larry > > Is this what's become of dc-cycles? Mark hurling insults > at all MD/VA > residents, Tom hurling insults at Mark, Mark using his > best Internet > muscles to challenge Tom? And now we insult each other's > rides? :-\ > > -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 18:34:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h22NYvXo010887; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:34:57 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h22NYuB0010872; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:34:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030302233454.46572.qmail@web13907.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:34:54 -0800 (PST) From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Who rode? To: Wayne Edelen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wayne Edelen wrote: >.... I truly could not care less what Larry thinks of > my choices in > vehicles,... Ummm, Wayne, I from the vehicle counts in the insurance thread, I wasn't aware that you *made* any vehicle choices -- I assumed you just bought one of everything. -- Larry v v v v v (smiley alert for the dc-cycles attempted-humor impaired) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 18:38:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h22NcPXo014469; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:38:25 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h22NcOfX014454; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:38:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030302233822.4839.qmail@web13902.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:38:22 -0800 (PST) From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: two things.... To: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20030302183816.83998.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow, a guy who wants to fight anybody who says "Fuck Kitchell"! How did you ever live to the ripe old age of 18 (assuming you're there yet)? Maybe Rob could wheedle you a press pass to accompany him with the 173d so you could get a taste of what really matters... -- Larry --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > any week day > > 1646 wisconsin ave > > you won't though. > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > that would be pretty damn satisfying -- for me and > > for the > > kitchell fan club members flooding my inbox with > > encouragement. oh, the peer pressure mounts. > > > > while i consider pissing away my career over such an > > honorable cause, please continue your practice of > > alternating posts between (i) ultrahypersensitive > > and (ii) > > thoughtless, offensive drivel. without your social > > guidance and insight -- the kitchell teachings -- we > > are > > really no more than suburban scum. > > > > > > > > > > --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > > > Say that to my face pussy. > > > > > > I mean it. And leave you lawyer badge at home > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > > > just checking in. been a while since i last > > posted, > > > > but i > > > > have been keeping loose track of some of the > > > > threads. i > > > > have two observations to make as a result of the > > > > recent > > > > list activity: > > > > 1. i couldn't possibly care less who rode > > today, > > > > yesterday, or the day before. there appear to > > be 3 > > > > people > > > > that actually give a shit. > > > > 2. fuck kitchell. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Mar 2 19:25:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h230PZXo024488; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:25:35 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h230PYmh024476; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:25:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20030302191819.056bc030@fbody.com> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 19:39:59 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: Who rode? In-Reply-To: <20030302233454.46572.qmail@web13907.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:34 PM 3/2/03 -0800, Larry Larson wrote: >Wayne Edelen wrote: > >.... I truly could not care less what Larry thinks of > > my choices in > > vehicles,... > >Ummm, Wayne, I from the vehicle counts in the insurance >thread, I wasn't aware that you *made* any vehicle choices >-- I assumed you just bought one of everything. > >-- Larry > >v > >(smiley alert for the dc-cycles attempted-humor impaired) http://www.blueblackbusa.org/wayne.wav It's disappointing to see so many people turn into keyboard warriors on the list, though. :-\ -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 07:46:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23CkLXo031755; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:46:21 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23CkHo3031740; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:46:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" To: "'Mark Kitchell'" , Tom Gimer Cc: DC Cycles Subject: RE: two things.... Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:46:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Leave the drama off the list. Just my .02 -----Original Message----- From: Mark Kitchell [mailto:markkitchell@XXXXXX] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:25 PM To: Tom Gimer Cc: DC Cycles Subject: Re: two things.... Say that to my face pussy. I mean it. And leave you lawyer badge at home --- Tom Gimer wrote: > just checking in. been a while since i last posted, > but i > have been keeping loose track of some of the > threads. i > have two observations to make as a result of the > recent > list activity: > 1. i couldn't possibly care less who rode today, > yesterday, or the day before. there appear to be 3 > people > that actually give a shit. > 2. fuck kitchell. > > > > -- > tg > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 07:47:15 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23ClFXo031811; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:47:15 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23ClF2S031796; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:47:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" To: "'Bruce'" Cc: DC Cycles Subject: RE: two things.... Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:47:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain That's about the size of it. People tend to talk big stuff over e-mail. -----Original Message----- From: Bruce [mailto:bcn@XXXXXX] Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 2:08 PM Cc: DC Cycles Subject: Re: two things.... Ooooooooo. Everyone meet behind the school after class! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kitchell" > Say that to my face pussy. > > I mean it. And leave you lawyer badge at home > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > just checking in. been a while since i last posted, > > but i > > have been keeping loose track of some of the > > threads. i > > have two observations to make as a result of the > > recent > > list activity: > > 1. i couldn't possibly care less who rode today, > > yesterday, or the day before. there appear to be 3 > > people > > that actually give a shit. > > 2. fuck kitchell. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 10:09:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23F9PXo007262; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:09:25 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23F9OS1007247; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:09:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:08:28 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Who rode? To: Wayne Edelen Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3E636FEC.72D6FA94@comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: Wayne Edelen wrote: > Is this what's become of dc-cycles? Mark hurling insults at all MD/VA > residents, Tom hurling insults at Mark, Mark using his best Internet > muscles to challenge Tom? And now we insult each other's rides? :-\ Sounds healthy and normal to me. Oh yeah, and chain drive bikes suck. :) Horkster -- Mandatory Second Line (Chatty Moron Trademark) Dale Horstman - horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - neat old bike From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 10:21:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23FLGXo010882; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:21:16 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23FLF0A010867; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:21:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E637254.F922831F@tasam.com> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:18:44 -0500 From: Skip X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Horstman CC: Wayne Edelen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Who rode? References: <3E636FEC.72D6FA94@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale Horstman wrote: > > Wayne Edelen wrote: > > > Is this what's become of dc-cycles? Mark hurling insults at all MD/VA > > residents, Tom hurling insults at Mark, Mark using his best Internet > > muscles to challenge Tom? And now we insult each other's rides? :-\ > > Sounds healthy and normal to me. > > Oh yeah, and chain drive bikes suck. :) > > Horkster and you CAN'T wheelie *or countersteer* a shaftie. :~) Skip From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 10:23:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23FNgXo014478; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:23:42 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23FNgTW014463; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:23:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030303152340.80293.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:23:40 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Who rode? To: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <3E637254.F922831F@tasam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I like Hyabusas! Any one fall on the black ice?? --- Skip wrote: > Dale Horstman wrote: > > > > Wayne Edelen wrote: > > > > > Is this what's become of dc-cycles? Mark > hurling insults at all MD/VA > > > residents, Tom hurling insults at Mark, Mark > using his best Internet > > > muscles to challenge Tom? And now we insult > each other's rides? :-\ > > > > Sounds healthy and normal to me. > > > > Oh yeah, and chain drive bikes suck. :) > > > > Horkster > > and you CAN'T wheelie *or countersteer* a shaftie. > > :~) > > Skip > ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 10:42:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23FgTXo018148; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:42:29 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23FgTZg018138; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:42:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E6377AF.2CC3F3D3@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:41:35 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Kitchell CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Who rode? References: <20030303152340.80293.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Kitchell wrote: > I like Hyabusas! > > Any one fall on the black ice?? Not me. You have to go outside to fall on black ice. I'm hibernating until the hopefully warmer climes tommorrow. Laugh, but wait a few decades when y`all realize arthritus has reared it's ugly head and your old joints lose lubrication and an hour in the cold has you walking like The Mummy (Re: 50s vintage B&W Creature Feature that also featured an overly endowed starlet attempting to escape the Creature while wearing a see-thru nightie - *snort - drool*) Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 11:09:06 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23G96Xo021971; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:09:06 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23G95Yr021961; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:09:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:08:54 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Who rode? To: Skip Cc: Wayne Edelen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3E637E16.F6EC3D93@comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: <3E636FEC.72D6FA94@XXXXXX> <3E637254.F922831F@XXXXXX> Skip wrote: > and you CAN'T wheelie *or countersteer* a shaftie. > > :~) just keep on thinking that... :) Hork -- Mandatory Second Line (Chatty Moron Trademark) Dale Horstman - horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - neat old bike From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 11:20:49 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23GKnXo024453; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:20:49 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23GKkSA024438; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:20:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: RE: Who rode? Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:20:38 -0500 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640930F@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Who rode? Thread-Index: AcLhmjkbFcyA5sLoThW6TVoOTvcQ5AABUpOg From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" To: "DC Cycles" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id h23GKjXo024426 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Kitchell [mailto:markkitchell@XXXXXX] > Any one fall on the black ice?? Almost. I was going through a turn at about 40 when I noticed lots of water (and probably ice) in my lane. I had cars just behind me in both left and right lanes (3 lane road), so I decided to go through the water/ice. (It was too late to stop) For some reason I decided to pull in the clutch trying to coast through it, but I lost traction in the back tire anyway. The back tire did a little "S" slide and - amazingly - corrected itself. This was my first slide ever, and it wasn't as scary as I thought it would be. And yes, I do feel very lucky today. Witold www.witold.org/bike/bike.php3 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 11:26:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23GQjXo028093; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:26:45 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23GQjDZ028066; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:26:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030303162642.63789.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:26:42 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: RE: Who rode? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640930F@rnc1.rnchq.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii More the reason its just not worth it to ride when the temps are (way) under freezing... Glenn --- Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services > Almost. I was going through a turn at about 40 when > I noticed lots of water (and probably ice) in my > lane. I had cars just behind me in both left and > right lanes (3 lane road), so I decided to go > through the water/ice. (It was too late to stop) > For some reason I decided to pull in the clutch > trying to coast through it, but I lost traction in > the back tire anyway. The back tire did a little > "S" slide and - amazingly - corrected itself. This > was my first slide ever, and it wasn't as scary as I > thought it would be. > > And yes, I do feel very lucky today. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 11:27:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23GR3Xo028143; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:27:03 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23GR2Dj028132; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:27:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030303162655.941.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:26:55 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: two things.... To: Mark Kitchell Cc: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20030302183816.83998.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii having considered the risks/rewards, i must respectlessly decline the invitation. you're obviously a bad-ass. and, accordingly, you have my permission to tell the rest of the sixth grade class that you beat my ass unmercifully. --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > any week day > > 1646 wisconsin ave > > you won't though. > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > that would be pretty damn satisfying -- for me and > > for the > > kitchell fan club members flooding my inbox with > > encouragement. oh, the peer pressure mounts. > > > > while i consider pissing away my career over such an > > honorable cause, please continue your practice of > > alternating posts between (i) ultrahypersensitive > > and (ii) > > thoughtless, offensive drivel. without your social > > guidance and insight -- the kitchell teachings -- we > > are > > really no more than suburban scum. > > > > > > --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > > > Say that to my face pussy. > > > > > > I mean it. And leave you lawyer badge at home > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > > > 2. fuck kitchell. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 11:29:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23GTaXo031768; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:29:36 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23GTZ9a031753; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:29:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030303162933.66627.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:29:33 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: two things.... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20030303162655.941.qmail@web41115.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii More like a Jackass. Glenn --- Tom Gimer wrote: > you're obviously a bad-ass. and, accordingly, you > have my > permission to tell the rest of the sixth grade class > that > you beat my ass unmercifully. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 11:34:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23GYFXo006603; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:34:15 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23GYFqE006588; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:34:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Who rode? Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:34:26 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <20030303152340.80293.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030303152340.80293.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0303031134262R.01066@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 03 March 2003 10:23, Mark Kitchell wrote: > I like Hyabusas! > > Any one fall on the black ice?? > Didn't someone slide a few weeks back in an intersection and lay it down? Maybe it was just an e-mail of a previous event. The roads looked pretty clear this morning. There were a couple of wet spots up near the Pentagon. Down by Springfield I hit a bike eater pothole square on. Fortunately I was sitting up straight rather than slouched but I'm still feeling the jar in my back. The bike looks ok. No dented rim or anything. Carl -- There is no patch for stupidity. Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 11:36:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23GacXo010259; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:36:38 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23Gacc1010244; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:36:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030303163635.66785.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:36:35 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: RE: Who rode? To: Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640930F@rnc1.rnchq.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You were lucky lucky lucky. Same thing happened to me two weeks ago, but the correction never happened. My old VFR is no worse for the wear, would not want to see your new R6 do the same.... --- Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Kitchell > [mailto:markkitchell@XXXXXX] > > Any one fall on the black ice?? > > Almost. I was going through a turn at about 40 when > I noticed lots of water (and probably ice) in my > lane. I had cars just behind me in both left and > right lanes (3 lane road), so I decided to go > through the water/ice. (It was too late to stop) > For some reason I decided to pull in the clutch > trying to coast through it, but I lost traction in > the back tire anyway. The back tire did a little > "S" slide and - amazingly - corrected itself. This > was my first slide ever, and it wasn't as scary as I > thought it would be. > > And yes, I do feel very lucky today. > > Witold > www.witold.org/bike/bike.php3 > ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 11:36:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23GakXo010288; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:36:46 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23Gaks4010276; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:36:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Who rode? Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:36:58 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <20030303162642.63789.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030303162642.63789.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0303031136582S.01066@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 03 March 2003 11:26, Glenn Dysart wrote: > More the reason its just not worth it to ride when the > temps are (way) under freezing... > Jeeze, it was only 29 this morning. It's not _that_ far under freezing. You know what they say... A bad day on a bike is better than a good day in a cage. :-) :-) :-) > Glenn > Carl -- There is no patch for stupidity. Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 11:38:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23GcsXo014004; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:38:54 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23GcrZI013989; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:38:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030303163846.51569.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:38:46 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Who rode? To: Carl Schelin , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <0303031136582S.01066@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes but is a bad crash in a car better than a good spill on a bike? --- Carl Schelin wrote: > On Monday 03 March 2003 11:26, Glenn Dysart wrote: > > More the reason its just not worth it to ride when > the > > temps are (way) under freezing... > > > > Jeeze, it was only 29 this morning. It's not _that_ > far under freezing. > > You know what they say... > > A bad day on a bike is better than a good day in a > cage. > > :-) :-) :-) > > > Glenn > > > > Carl > -- > There is no patch for > stupidity. > Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, > Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) > finger cschelin@XXXXXX for > phone and address > ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 11:47:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23GlaXo022529; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:47:36 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23GlZ5d022519; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:47:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: RE: Who rode? Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:47:29 -0500 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A666409310@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Who rode? Thread-Index: AcLhoxBv/J1+BO/BQtSO+CISXsIruAAAEWrA From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" To: "Mark Kitchell" , "DC Cycles" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id h23GlYXo022507 When I got up this morning, it *seemed* like a great day to ride. (like yesterday!) The sun was beaming down and my apartment was getting unusually hot. Things looked pretty nice when I looked outside. Then I checked the weather and saw that the temps are in low teens in No VA, but by that point, I really wanted to ride. I figured that the roads would be clear, and that my biggest obstacles would be in the form of newly created gigantic potholes - you know, the ones that even cars slow down for. What happed to you 2 weeks ago? I missed it. Witold www.witold.org/bike/bike.php3 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Kitchell [mailto:markkitchell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:37 AM > To: Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services; DC Cycles > Subject: RE: Who rode? > > > You were lucky lucky lucky. > > Same thing happened to me two weeks ago, but the > correction never happened. My old VFR is no worse for > the wear, would not want to see your new R6 do the > same.... > > > --- Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services > wrote: > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mark Kitchell > > [mailto:markkitchell@XXXXXX] > > > Any one fall on the black ice?? > > > > Almost. I was going through a turn at about 40 when > > I noticed lots of water (and probably ice) in my > > lane. I had cars just behind me in both left and > > right lanes (3 lane road), so I decided to go > > through the water/ice. (It was too late to stop) > > For some reason I decided to pull in the clutch > > trying to coast through it, but I lost traction in > > the back tire anyway. The back tire did a little > > "S" slide and - amazingly - corrected itself. This > > was my first slide ever, and it wasn't as scary as I > > thought it would be. > > > > And yes, I do feel very lucky today. > > > > Witold > > www.witold.org/bike/bike.php3 > > > > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 11:49:50 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23GnoXo023855; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:49:50 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23GnoQH023839; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:49:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030303164948.69348.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:49:48 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: RE: Who rode? To: Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A666409310@rnc1.rnchq.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just hit some black ice on Fla ave. Rear slipped out and I fell down. Scared the cars behind me more than me, to be honest. I guess I have one more scratch on the fairing thats all. --- Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services wrote: > > When I got up this morning, it *seemed* like a great > day to ride. (like yesterday!) The sun was beaming > down and my apartment was getting unusually hot. > Things looked pretty nice when I looked outside. > Then I checked the weather and saw that the temps > are in low teens in No VA, but by that point, I > really wanted to ride. I figured that the roads > would be clear, and that my biggest obstacles would > be in the form of newly created gigantic potholes - > you know, the ones that even cars slow down for. > > What happed to you 2 weeks ago? I missed it. > > Witold > www.witold.org/bike/bike.php3 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Kitchell > [mailto:markkitchell@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:37 AM > > To: Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services; > DC Cycles > > Subject: RE: Who rode? > > > > > > You were lucky lucky lucky. > > > > Same thing happened to me two weeks ago, but the > > correction never happened. My old VFR is no worse > for > > the wear, would not want to see your new R6 do the > > same.... > > > > > > --- Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services > > wrote: > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mark Kitchell > > > [mailto:markkitchell@XXXXXX] > > > > Any one fall on the black ice?? > > > > > > Almost. I was going through a turn at about 40 > when > > > I noticed lots of water (and probably ice) in my > > > lane. I had cars just behind me in both left > and > > > right lanes (3 lane road), so I decided to go > > > through the water/ice. (It was too late to > stop) > > > For some reason I decided to pull in the clutch > > > trying to coast through it, but I lost traction > in > > > the back tire anyway. The back tire did a > little > > > "S" slide and - amazingly - corrected itself. > This > > > was my first slide ever, and it wasn't as scary > as I > > > thought it would be. > > > > > > And yes, I do feel very lucky today. > > > > > > Witold > > > www.witold.org/bike/bike.php3 > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 12:08:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23H8lXo030120; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:08:47 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23H8lNk030110; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:08:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:07:25 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Who rode? To: Mark Kitchell Cc: Carl Schelin , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3E638BCD.5479F537@comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: <20030303163846.51569.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> Mark Kitchell wrote: > > Yes but is a bad crash in a car better than a good > spill on a bike? If it means one less car on the road, then hell yes. :) Hork -- Mandatory Second Line (Chatty Moron Trademark) Dale Horstman - horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - neat old bike From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 12:09:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23H9rXo031401; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:09:53 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23H9rRJ031386; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:09:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030303170951.63947.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:09:51 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: Who rode? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <0303031136582S.01066@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Carl Schelin wrote: > Jeeze, it was only 29 this morning. It's not _that_ > far under freezing. > I don't where you were but the weather bug on my computer still shows it at 22 in Annandale and Fox News right now shows it at 25. > You know what they say... > > A bad day on a bike is better than a good day in a > cage. > True but I would rather hit a patch of ice in a cage then on a bike! Glenn __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 12:12:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23HCHXo032707; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:12:17 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23HCGs9032692; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:12:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <750BC2024318D2118BD200A0C9DAFA76E49205@SERVER2> From: Michael Lynch To: "'Mark Kitchell'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Who rode? Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:21:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain NO. BTDT in both cases. Good spill on a bike and you dust yourself off and put another layer of duct tape on the turn signal stalk. Bad crash in a car and you land on the hood and the paramedics take pictures of the scene and when your male friends see you they cry. You must have meant some other scenario. Mike 96 VFR 88 Hawk 76 CB400F > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Kitchell [SMTP:markkitchell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:39 AM > To: Carl Schelin; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Who rode? > > Yes but is a bad crash in a car better than a good > spill on a bike? > > > --- Carl Schelin wrote: > > > > You know what they say... > > > > A bad day on a bike is better than a good day in a > > cage. > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 12:28:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23HSNXo008946; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:28:23 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23HSMBE008936; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:28:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [208.174.116.106] From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: pot holes Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:16:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2003 17:16:36.0984 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5A89780:01C2E1A8] I lost a cage tire to a pot hole last night. Anyone know if shopping centers can be held resposible for damage caused by a pothole on their property? >From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" >To: "Mark Kitchell" , "DC Cycles" > >Subject: RE: Who rode? >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 11:47:29 -0500 > figured that the roads would be clear, and that my biggest obstacles would be in the form of newly created gigantic potholes - you know, the ones that even cars slow down for. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 12:40:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23HeLXo014138; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:40:21 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23HeLkA014130; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:40:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Who rode? Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:40:26 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <20030303170951.63947.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030303170951.63947.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0303031240262V.01066@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 03 March 2003 12:09, Glenn Dysart wrote: > --- Carl Schelin wrote: > > Jeeze, it was only 29 this morning. It's not _that_ > > far under freezing. > > I don't where you were but the weather bug on my > computer still shows it at 22 in Annandale and Fox > News right now shows it at 25. > I'm in DC right now but this morning at around 4:30am it was 29 degrees. It sure felt colder with that wind blowing me sideways. I can agree with it being colder now though. > > You know what they say... > > > > A bad day on a bike is better than a good day in a > > cage. > > True but I would rather hit a patch of ice in a cage > then on a bike! > Depends on who's around and other circumstances. Most of the time I can pick up the bike and, after checking for fenders rubbing the tires, continue on. A car would likely be ok but an SUV will probably turtle :-) > Glenn > Carl -- There is no patch for stupidity. Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 12:57:21 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23HvLXo018002; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:57:21 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23HvLvW017992; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:57:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F9F6D56@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: bernescut@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: carbs Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:57:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I hate to interrupt with a motorcycle question, but I was curious about my carbs. I parked my CBR600F4 at the beginning of December and haven't touched it since. It's been kept in an unheated garage under cover and I pulled the battery which I left hooked up to my Battery Tender. The tank is half full but I neglected to add any fuel stabilizer. What are the chances that the carbs will be gummed up with varnish a this point? Are commercial carb cleaners safe, or useful? Should I just ride go ahead and ride it? Cedric 2000 CBR600F4 Washington, DC From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 13:02:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23I28Xo020696; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:02:08 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23I27Fg020689; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:02:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030303180158.96222.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:01:58 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: carbs To: bernescut@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F9F6D56@NCEAEXCHANGE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If its been since the beginning of Dec, there is a good chance you are ok. Buy some stabil and use it (do it today). Also, ride the bike around before you add the stabil. To see if you need to clean the carbs. I do not think there is anything you can pour into the tank to safely clean moto-carbs? And I thought you meant the Atkins diet.... --- bernescut@XXXXXX wrote: > I hate to interrupt with a motorcycle question, but > I was curious about my > carbs. I parked my CBR600F4 at the beginning of > December and haven't > touched it since. It's been kept in an unheated > garage under cover and I > pulled the battery which I left hooked up to my > Battery Tender. The tank is > half full but I neglected to add any fuel > stabilizer. What are the chances > that the carbs will be gummed up with varnish a this > point? Are commercial > carb cleaners safe, or useful? Should I just ride > go ahead and ride it? > > Cedric > 2000 CBR600F4 > Washington, DC > > > > > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 13:18:27 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23IIRXo024527; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:18:27 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23IIRJG024517; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:18:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E639C3E.48CB8218@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:17:34 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rich hall CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: pot holes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rich hall wrote: > I lost a cage tire to a pot hole last night. > Anyone know if shopping centers can be held resposible for damage caused by > a pothole on their property? Hardy har har! As a former tenent (15 years) in a shopping center, I firmly believe all shopping centers are owned and managed by mega-pricks who's fav expression is "Not our problem". This included roofs that functioned like window screens under a rainfall, parking lot lighting failures, and customers who suffered muggings, rapes, and accidents. Hey, those greedy bastards aren't about to give up their bottom line $$$. Shopping centers take at least 5% off the tenents gross sales income, more than those financial criminals known as credit card companys take off a sale. Yes, in addition to charging the card holder interest, the CC companys exact a fee from the merchent, percentage based on gross monthly CC sales. I am so happy to be a semi-retired self-employed bum. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 13:25:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23IP4Xo027066; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:25:04 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23IP4Mi027051; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:25:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F9F6D58@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: bernescut@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: pot holes Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:24:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hey, those greedy bastards aren't about to give up their bottom line $$$. Shopping centers take at least 5% off the tenents gross sales income, more than those financial criminals known as credit card companys take off a sale. Yes, in addition to charging the card holder interest, the CC companys exact a fee from the merchent, percentage based on gross monthly CC sales. I am so happy to be a semi-retired self-employed bum. Bill Sounds like you had Combined Properties as a landlord. It was pretty funny watching the Haft family implode after years of crap from their company. Cedric From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 13:30:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23IUjXo028353; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:30:45 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23IUd7a028338; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:30:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E639F1A.EE89D88E@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:29:46 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bernescut@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: carbs References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F9F6D56@NCEAEXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You could do the gas sniff test. If it smells really funny you're in deep defecant. But I'd just start the bugger up and hope it's okay. It'll probably run fine. I have used gas additive cleaners but some of the older japanese bikes and outboards didn't like them, something to do with the synthetic needle seats going bonkers and disintegrating or swelling shut. Bill bernescut@XXXXXX wrote: > I hate to interrupt with a motorcycle question, but I was curious about my > carbs. I parked my CBR600F4 at the beginning of December and haven't > touched it since. It's been kept in an unheated garage under cover and I > pulled the battery which I left hooked up to my Battery Tender. The tank is > half full but I neglected to add any fuel stabilizer. What are the chances > that the carbs will be gummed up with varnish a this point? Are commercial > carb cleaners safe, or useful? Should I just ride go ahead and ride it? > > Cedric > 2000 CBR600F4 > Washington, DC From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 13:33:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23IXwXo032114; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:33:58 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23IXwBR032102; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:33:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E639FE1.7E3EEC74@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:33:05 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bernescut@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: pot holes References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F9F6D58@NCEAEXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bernescut@XXXXXX wrote: > Hey, those greedy bastards aren't about to give up their bottom line $$$. > Shopping centers take at least 5% off the tenents gross sales income, more > than > those financial criminals known as credit card companys take off a sale. > Yes, > in addition to charging the card holder interest, the CC companys exact a > fee > from the merchent, percentage based on gross monthly CC sales. > > I am so happy to be a semi-retired self-employed bum. > > Bill > > Sounds like you had Combined Properties as a landlord. It was pretty funny > watching the Haft family implode after years of crap from their company. > Cedric Bingo! You da man! Yeppers, Haft and company. I had the thrill of contributing to the derailment of their attempt to buy out another drug chain. And lemme tell you, every time another disastor kneecapped that cadre of dickheads I'd crack open the jugga scotch and toast their demise. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 13:59:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23IxOXo002436; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:59:24 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23IxKUA002421; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:59:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [65.216.176.5] From: "Jim Sharifi" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: carbs Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:47:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2003 18:47:19.0107 (UTC) FILETIME=[516AA930:01C2E1B5] Mine had been parked outside since the end of december as well. I didn't put in any stabilizer, and I was worried about my carbs as well (normally I ride through the winter, but this one was a little cold and snowy for me). Anyway, after charging the battery, it started up fine yesterday. I'm pretty sure you'll be okay, considering mine was stuck in a snow drift for two months. >From: bernescut@XXXXXX >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: carbs >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:57:11 -0500 > >I hate to interrupt with a motorcycle question, but I was curious about my >carbs. I parked my CBR600F4 at the beginning of December and haven't >touched it since. It's been kept in an unheated garage under cover and I >pulled the battery which I left hooked up to my Battery Tender. The tank >is >half full but I neglected to add any fuel stabilizer. What are the chances >that the carbs will be gummed up with varnish a this point? Are commercial >carb cleaners safe, or useful? Should I just ride go ahead and ride it? > >Cedric >2000 CBR600F4 >Washington, DC _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 14:04:00 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23J3xXo003819; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:03:59 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23J3xH5003813; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:03:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E63A6EA.EAF67D25@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:03:06 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bernescut@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: pot holes References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F9F6D58@NCEAEXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bernescut@XXXXXX wrote: > Sounds like you had Combined Properties as a landlord. It was pretty funny > watching the Haft family implode after years of crap from their company. > Cedric And sort of on topic - At one point CP hired a security firm to prevent illegal offloads in our dumpsters and keep the kids from riding bicycles on the sidewalks. A) I made my dumpster available to my nieghbors. B) I ran a hobby shop, and minutes after school let out the sidewalk in front of my store looked like mating season for Red Line & Mongoose BMX bikes. Fisrt shot, the rent-a-cop bitched about me parking my scoot on the sidewalk. It was a 90cc Kawi, one step above a moped. We had words. I was a bit testy `cause this rent-a-cop idiot had bandelaros (X of bullet loaded belts across his chest) and carried a genuine Clint Eastwood Magnum .44! Like whada ya gonna do, I ask, shoot the kids for pedeling down the sidewalk? Did I mention the pistol grip 12 gauge pump shotgun he also carried? He called the cops and my scoot was evicted from the sidewalk, but the kids bikes stayed. He tried to move them but lemme tell ya, that bunch of 12 year old boys made the Hells Angels look like wussys. Future bikers fer sure! Of course I was victorious. Took me a couple weeks but I had noticed the two security guards were driving vehicles with Ohio and West Virginny tags. I called a cop who was the father of one of those bad-ass BMX riders and he busted them for failing to properly register their vehicles. Yes! A week later they were gone - history. I moved nmy scoot back on the sidewalk and we had a party. The BMXers got soda and a free model kit, I had a shot of Glenlivit. A couple of those lads became employees when they became old enough for work permits. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 16:47:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23LlAXo008500; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:47:10 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23Ll96P008488; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:47:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <005001c2e1ce$6e316a40$6600a8c0@michael> Reply-To: "Michael Jordan" From: "Michael Jordan" To: References: <3E636FEC.72D6FA94@comcast.net> <3E637254.F922831F@tasam.com> Subject: Re: Who rode? Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:46:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-ELNK-Trace: 599158c4802a0bc829d2c221526d1bab239a348a220c2609af07902fc6370552a777207c5f80da9a666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c > and you CAN'T wheelie *or countersteer* a shaftie. > > :~) > > Skip > Perhaps YOU can't... To REALLY have fun - wheelie a BMW twin or Guzzi. It's interesting what the torque reaction does to the bike when the front wheel is waving in the air :-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 17:16:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23MGCXo011227; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 17:16:12 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23MGCba011217; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 17:16:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030303161538.00b641b8@mail.mac.com> X-Sender: eternity23@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:16:16 -0600 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: Who rode? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >Wayne wrote: >>It's disappointing to see so many people turn into keyboard warriors on >>the list, though. :-\ > >You haven't been on the list for very long, have you? This is NOTHING. >It's barely enough to make me nostalgic about the good 'ol days when flame >wars were FLAME WARS, and people on DC-Cyclers rode their motorcycles more >than they talked about them. > >Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 18:27:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23NRvXo014171; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:27:57 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23NRv5v014161; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:27:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:45:13 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Who rode? In-Reply-To: <20030303170951.63947.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Glenn Dysart wrote: > I don't where you were but the weather bug on my > computer still shows it at 22 in Annandale and Fox > News right now shows it at 25. It was a brisk 14 this AM when I left the house. > True but I would rather hit a patch of ice in a cage > then on a bike! No kidding. Not to mention the horrendous potholes. I haven't been driving anything but my truck for the past several weeks. I don't want to bend wheels/suspensions on my cars while MDOT figures out how to fix all the craters out there. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 18:29:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23NTVXo014224; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:29:31 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23NTV5U014217; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:29:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:46:43 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: pot holes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, rich hall wrote: > I lost a cage tire to a pot hole last night. > Anyone know if shopping centers can be held resposible for damage caused by > a pothole on their property? Yes. Same thing happened to me about 10yrs ago. I was in a Hechinger parking lot and a crater ate my tire. The store paid the local tire shop to replace my tire/check my alignment. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 18:38:37 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23NcbXo018027; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:38:37 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23Ncb4U018016; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:38:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20030303185131.04bf1ec0@fbody.com> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 18:53:04 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: Who rode? In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030303161538.00b641b8@mail.mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:16 PM 3/3/03 -0600, Sean Jordan wrote: >>Wayne wrote: >>>It's disappointing to see so many people turn into keyboard warriors on >>>the list, though. :-\ >> >>You haven't been on the list for very long, have you? This is NOTHING. >>It's barely enough to make me nostalgic about the good 'ol days when >>flame wars were FLAME WARS, and people on DC-Cyclers rode their >>motorcycles more than they talked about them. >> >>Sean Jordan I'm proficient enough with procmail to make the idiots disappear, it's just that this list seems to have more of the 'message board'-type idiots than the other mailing lists I read. I've only been on this list for about 13months. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 18:46:25 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23NkPXo021783; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:46:25 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23NkO85021770; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:46:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <015601c2e1de$fcf2b8f0$20fea8c0@BIGHAMMER1> From: "Dave Yates" To: References: Subject: Re: pot holes Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:45:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-ELNK-Trace: 956056117932dab21aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79dbac05da665f89345ad39474224c9b8e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Wayne added: > > Anyone know if shopping centers can be held resposible for damage caused by > > a pothole on their property? > > Yes. Same thing happened to me about 10yrs ago. I was in a Hechinger > parking lot and a crater ate my tire. The store paid the local tire shop > to replace my tire/check my alignment. [Dave] Good on you! Was it that you vocally asserted yourself, an act of store management good faith or what have you? I thought there was always some sort of "policy not covered" '... covered by other insurance...' riders... Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 18:52:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h23NqiXo021882; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:52:44 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h23NqiKj021872; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:52:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <015e01c2e1df$df5dac90$20fea8c0@BIGHAMMER1> From: "Dave Yates" To: References: <5.1.1.6.2.20030303185131.04bf1ec0@fbody.com> Subject: Re: Who rode? Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 18:51:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-ELNK-Trace: 956056117932dab21aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79a118e6776ee7ec27dca0b590a543ff62350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Sean J reminded us: > > >This is NOTHING. > >>It's barely enough to make me nostalgic about the good 'ol days when > >>flame wars were FLAME WARS Wayne confessed: > I'm proficient enough with procmail to make the idiots disappear, it's just > that this list seems to have more of the 'message board'-type idiots than > the other mailing lists I read. > > I've only been on this list for about 13months. [Dave] The early days seem to me to have been a little more... combative. I think of late we've taken to more OT political bashing than before... Whatever happened to the "other" list, DCC2 ? Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 19:11:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h240BuXo032589; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:11:56 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h240BuTM032579; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:11:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <000e01c2e1e2$a6bf7960$6600a8c0@michael> Reply-To: "Michael Jordan" From: "Michael Jordan" To: References: <20030301172445.51572.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> <20030301004440.7555.qmail@web41113.mail.yahoo.com> <5.2.0.9.0.20030301141205.00b77f00@mail.mac.com> Subject: Bike for sale (moto-spam) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:11:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-ELNK-Trace: 599158c4802a0bc829d2c221526d1bab239a348a220c2609483cecab34728e2ed30fd5e1b1807ca8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Just in time for Spring A '93 Yamaha Seca II in dark green. Problems: A bit of corrosion on the headers, a broken right mirror mount (JB Weld?) It wants a new clutch, too. It has reasonably fresh rubber and the engine runs well. I'd like to get $2k out of it (Kelly has it at $2,300 retail and $1,500 trade in). Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 19:16:20 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h240GKXo002894; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:16:20 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h240GKXP002886; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:16:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20030303192907.05a89220@fbody.com> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 19:30:42 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: pot holes In-Reply-To: <015601c2e1de$fcf2b8f0$20fea8c0@BIGHAMMER1> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 06:45 PM 3/3/03 -0500, you wrote: >Wayne added: > > > Anyone know if shopping centers can be held resposible for damage caused >by > > > a pothole on their property? > > > > Yes. Same thing happened to me about 10yrs ago. I was in a Hechinger > > parking lot and a crater ate my tire. The store paid the local tire shop > > to replace my tire/check my alignment. > >[Dave] Good on you! Was it that you vocally asserted yourself, an act of >store management good faith or what have you? I thought there was always >some sort of "policy not covered" '... covered by other insurance...' >riders... > >Dave I spoke to the manager about it and demanded a replacement. The manager handled it right on the spot. They offered to put my spare on and follow me to the tire store to purchase a replacement to be mounted. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 19:50:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h240oYXo007517; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:50:34 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h240oXJd007507; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:50:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030304005031.30417.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:50:31 -0800 (PST) From: John Kozyn Subject: Miscellaniae To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey DC Guys 'n Gals, That salutation includes you rednecks in MD and VA ;) I still can't believe some of y'all wasted an entire Saturday last week to spat the way you did - about 75K worth. Mr Gimer (our prophet from the MD wilderness) is right perhaps... Coupla things from tonight's digest, which, mercifully actually had some moto-content! but first a little spam: 1) I have a lower tapered steering head bearing for sale suitable for VFRs and (I believe) CBRs too. Price: $20 (no dust seal) and you pick up in Arlington. Ping me off list if interested. 2) Someone whined: "I lost a cage tire to a pot hole last night. Anyone know if shopping centers can be held resposible for damage caused by a pothole on their property? [JK] Dude, take some responsibility for your actions and watch where you're driving. It honestly amazes me to to see "motorcyclists" act like typical cagers simply because they are in one. No wonder this is the most litigious society on the planet.. jeez. 3) Someone else actually posited a moto-question: "Are commercial carb cleaners safe, or useful? Should I just ride go ahead and ride it?" [JK] What I have tried upon recommendation from others more knowledgeable than me is to use that Chevron Techron Fuel System Cleaner. It can't hurt and can only help, even in carburetted machines. If bike is apart w/ carbs exposed, you can always spray carb-cleaner in there to clean things out a bit too. And yes, I did ride yesterday (so there Gimer! hehehe ;) JK 1999 900SS 1995 VFR750F __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 20:33:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h241X2Xo011630; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:33:02 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h241X2dr011620; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:33:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20030303202912.04ce8d30@fbody.com> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:47:31 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: Miscellaniae In-Reply-To: <20030304005031.30417.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:50 PM 3/3/03 -0800, you wrote: >2) Someone whined: "I lost a cage tire to a pot hole last night. >Anyone know if shopping centers can be held resposible for damage >caused by a pothole on their property? > >[JK] Dude, take some responsibility for your actions and watch where >you're driving. It honestly amazes me to to see "motorcyclists" act >like typical cagers simply because they are in one. No wonder this is >the most litigious society on the planet.. jeez. In my case, the crater was at the end of a row of parked cars, such that my tire dropped into it was soon as you were turning right. Easy to spot while on 2 wheels, impossible on 4 wheels. It's reasonable to expect a certain level of maintenance in private parking lots. Don't confuse frivalous suits with sticking up for yourself. Nobody mentioned litigation, except you :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 22:00:26 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2430QXo014573; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:00:26 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h2430PqS014563; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:00:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.83.223.127] From: "rich hall" To: mr_vfr@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Miscellaniae Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 22:00:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2003 03:00:18.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[302B1A80:01C2E1FA] It was full of water and it was dark, should I continue whinning? >From: John Kozyn >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Miscellaniae >Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:50:31 -0800 (PST) >2) Someone whined: "I lost a cage tire to a pot hole last night. >Anyone know if shopping centers can be held resposible for damage >caused by a pothole on their property? > >[JK] Dude, take some responsibility for your actions and watch where >you're driving. It honestly amazes me to to see "motorcyclists" act >like typical cagers simply because they are in one. No wonder this is >the most litigious society on the planet.. jeez. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Mar 3 22:09:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2439sXo017100; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:09:54 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h2439rMb017091; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:09:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E6418CC.6530B929@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 22:09:00 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rich hall CC: mr_vfr@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Miscellaniae References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rich hall wrote: > It was full of water and it was dark, should I continue whinning? > Go ahead and whine. I was cussing. On the way back from Delaware yesterday I must have hit 2000 potholes on our not-so-well maintained interstates. I figure the ol' van shocks were frothing the oil. After a bridge deck that looked like the US Army used it for an artillery target and forgot to clean up the mess, I saw two cars off on the shoulder with suspensions that didn't look normal. Solution: Half track or a military version HumVee, not the consumer wimp version. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 4 06:09:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h24B9ZXo022074; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:09:35 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h24B9Yj1022063; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:09:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Miscellaniae Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:09:50 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <3E6418CC.6530B929@patriot.net> In-Reply-To: <3E6418CC.6530B929@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <03030406095035.01066@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 03 March 2003 22:09, William J. Huson wrote: > rich hall wrote: > > It was full of water and it was dark, should I continue whinning? > > Go ahead and whine. I was cussing. On the way back from Delaware > yesterday I must have hit 2000 potholes on our not-so-well maintained > interstates. I figure the ol' van shocks were frothing the oil. After a > bridge deck that looked like the US Army used it for an artillery target > and forgot to clean up the mess, I saw two cars off on the shoulder with > suspensions that didn't look normal. > > Solution: Half track or a military version HumVee, not the consumer wimp > version. > > Bill It looks like they've filled the potholes on 395 either yesterday (I don't remember seeing them on the way home) or last night. On the way home in the slaw lanes there was car with its radiator spewing a large white ball of steam. Of course everyone had to slow down to look. Carl -- There is no patch for stupidity. Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 4 06:16:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h24BG7Xo024651; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:16:07 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h24BG7NF024635; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:16:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <125.1f108e0e.2b95e4e7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:15:51 EST Subject: Re: Who rode? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 3/3/2003 11:21:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, Witold@XXXXXX writes: > For some reason I decided to pull in the clutch trying to coast through it, Proper technique. > but I lost traction in the back tire anyway. The back tire did a little "S" > slide and - amazingly - corrected itself. See above, with any extra load on traction (push or drag of the engine) if may well not have corrected itself. > This was my first slide ever, and > it wasn't as scary as I thought it would be. Not panicking is half the battle. (Once had to ride over a bridge that 2 cages (one 4 wheel drive) had just slid off of.) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 4 07:02:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h24C2YXo028599; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 07:02:34 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h24C2YHY028589; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 07:02:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E64959F.D1F5483A@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 07:01:35 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carl Schelin CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Miscellaniae References: <3E6418CC.6530B929@patriot.net> <03030406095035.01066@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carl Schelin wrote: > It looks like they've filled the potholes on 395 either yesterday (I don't > remember seeing them on the way home) or last night. I hope. There was a few nasty holes on the bridge betwixt Seminary and Duke, right lane which is where you'd find me putting along seeing as how I dive off the slab at Duke. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 4 10:07:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h24F7kXo032262; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:07:46 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h24F7jNI032252; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:07:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E64C0AF.2F3F3069@tasam.com> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 10:05:19 -0500 From: Skip X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carl Schelin CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Miscellaniae References: <3E6418CC.6530B929@patriot.net> <03030406095035.01066@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carl Schelin wrote: [snip] > On the way home in the slaw lanes there was car with its radiator spewing a > large white ball of steam. Of course everyone had to slow down to look. hey... it *could've* been on fire, which would make it worth watching... :~) Skip From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 4 10:24:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h24FO7Xo001187; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:24:07 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h24FO6Ij001174; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:24:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Miscellaniae Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:24:14 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <03030406095035.01066@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> <3E64C0AF.2F3F3069@tasam.com> In-Reply-To: <3E64C0AF.2F3F3069@tasam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0303041024143K.01066@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tuesday 04 March 2003 10:05, Skip wrote: > Carl Schelin wrote: > [snip] > > > On the way home in the slaw lanes there was car with its radiator spewing > > a large white ball of steam. Of course everyone had to slow down to look. > > hey... it *could've* been on fire, which would make it worth > watching... > Yea, but that doesn't explain the 2 mile backup when the nearsighted drivers have to read the electronic signs. Buncha idiots. Carl -- So, Microsoft says that it would be a National Security risk if Windows Source Code is made public. So why are they releasing it to the Chinese Government? Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 4 10:35:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h24FZTXo005042; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:35:29 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h24FZT8i005030; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:35:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYRYJlu6GHrDLpUoyUJC9gARZjZbB2bAJ6yUqwuPSCm7xBz0Vb1nBwBLaX7el6AiAo= From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: Who rode? Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:35:24 -0500 Message-ID: <98746331CB7A8845BDB93F3574AD2B830E21CC@CORPMAIL1.ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <98746331CB7A8845BDB93F3574AD2B830C1559@CORPMAIL1.ddlomni.com> Ahhh, so that's why I can no longer see my own reflection in the mirror... ----- Wayne Edelen wrote: > I'm proficient enough with procmail to make the idiots disappear From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Mar 4 12:45:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h24Hjlie012786; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:45:47 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit)