From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 07:06:09 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 04:10:05 -0700 (PDT) From: s s Subject: Re: MMMMmmmmm Baaaarbeque To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I think Anita said that we took a shortcut or two as well. Thanks Anita, you are the Queen of organization, and a great Hostess! West-Bound, See Ya! Spence..... --- "Collin T. Fagan" wrote: > > Thanks to Anita for hosting a yummy barbeque and a > very nice route > (now if I could only tell my east from my west.....) > Oh yeah, and next time, someone tell the leader that > we're supposed to > stop in Marshall BEFORE we're 35 miles past it ;-) > he he he > > Oh yeah, how many kilometers per hour were we > travelling while that > sherrif followed us all the way down snikersville > turnpike anyhow?? :) > > Collin > (who not so surprisingly anymore manages to always > get the fast group > there AFTER the slow group.. with a few extra miles > of course ;-)) > > === > Collin T. Fagan > DC-Cycles Racing > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > Proudly sponsored by: > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > Avon Racing Tyres > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 07:40:45 1999 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Metal crunching all over Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 04:40:28 -0700 I'm afraid I would have be shaking in my boots and wobbling home... ugh. Fear of being hit from behind plague me constantly now. :( Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX [mailto:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > MY LANE and RUNS the very red light!!!! > I was shaking myhead all the way home. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 08:03:42 1999 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: MMMMmmmmm Baaaarbeque Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 05:03:36 -0700 > -----Original Message----- > From: Collin T. Fagan [mailto:gixer_racer@XXXXXX] > Oh yeah, how many kilometers per hour were we travelling while that > sherrif followed us all the way down snikersville turnpike anyhow?? :) Donno... the speedo just has a few random numbers tossed on there - I couldn't make any sense of it.. I just watched the Tach... :) So, who's up for buying collin a COMPASS so we don't get so freeking turned around so much. Just think of all the good roads we could have hit for the mileage we used backtracking.. :P Or laps at Old Dominion too.. well, the quiet bikes at least.. Thanks much Anita.. was much fun, good food, and I'm tickled pink to have gotten out for a ride and DC-Cycles gathering again for the first time in a LOOOOOONG time. Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 08:20:20 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 08:16:51 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: FW: Shoei Duo-tec for sale To: DC-Cycles X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-MSMail-priority: Normal FYI. Send replies to Don Feyma. For those who'd like the convenience of a flip lid (I have one of these and really like it), but don't want to pay a lot of money. T > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hsta@XXXXXX [mailto:owner-hsta@XXXXXX] > On Behalf Of Don Feyma > Sent: Saturday, May 29, 1999 8:59 AM > To: Honda Sport Touring Association > Subject: Shoei Duo-tec for sale > > > Because it isn't red... > > Black Shoei Duo-Tec, used one season, clean, never down. > Size XL > $150 shipped to you in the cont. USA or Canada, shipping extra elsewhere. > > Best Regards, > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~ Don Feyma donfeyma@XXXXXX ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~ STOC #237, HSTA 7365 on ArreSTme ('96 ST1100) ~~~ > ~~ Keeper of The ST1100 LiST ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~ Ya, Let's Go Ride, you betcha! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 09:25:35 1999 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Am I the only one.. Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 06:17:37 -0700 who looks at the clock in the morning, sees 9:16am... and thinks of a Ducati? From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 09:29:21 1999 From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "McCoy Brian NAB02" cc: "'dc'" Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:19:58 -0400 Subject: RE: MMMMmmmmm Baaaarbeque Content-Disposition: inline Yes, thank you Anita for the great hospitality, yummy food and the cutest dogs! : ) The ride was great, as well....sorry for riding on everyone's tails...the day before I'd ridden with Brian and Tom and if I didn't stay on their tails I would've lost them for sure! LOL - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 09:32:25 1999 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: MMMMmmmmm Baaaarbeque Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 06:32:14 -0700 Suuuuurreee, now it's OUR fault that you were riding up peoples tailpipes! Perhaps you'd like to join the Other group next time to avoid riding so close to the person infront of you.. ;) Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX sorry for riding on everyone's > tails...the day > before I'd ridden with Brian and Tom and if I didn't stay on > their tails I > would've lost them for sure! LOL From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 09:37:24 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:37:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Am I the only one.. On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > who looks at the clock in the morning, sees 9:16am... and thinks of a > Ducati? > I wake up in the morning, and I think... My ride's not a ducati. I ride to work, and I think... My ride's not a ducati. I eat lunch, and I think... My ride's not a ducati. I see a ducati broken down, and I think.. thank god My ride's not a ducati! Alex. P.S. I freaked this morning at 6:10 AM when I woke up to get into work AND THE SUN WAS OUT! Damn this summer weather! I had to check 3 clocks before I convinced myself I wasn't late. Some things were meant to be so, and darkness at 6 AM was one of them, damnit! From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 09:43:21 1999 From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT cc: "'dc'" Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:34:46 -0400 Subject: Calling Tony... Content-Disposition: inline Sorry for the waste of bandwith, but, Tony, if you get this, write me back! - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 10:19:22 1999 Errors-To: Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:19:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Thanks Anita Thanks for setting up the great ride and BBQ. I just wish we could do it again today! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 10:29:06 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 10:23:59 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: jmoran@XXXXXX, horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Shopping for a new scoot -Reply Content-Disposition: inline Sort of like telling the car dealer: "Either you eat the paint sealer/undercoating/fabric coating crap, or I'm taking a hike." Can't believe dealers still try to pull that scam. Joe >>> Randy and Julie Moran - 5/28/99 6:14 PM >>> I am certain that Coleman charges freight, having worked there (for about three months) as a salesman several years ago. The freight charge is pure profit for the dealership, and you should avoid paying it. Your ability to avoid paying it will, of course, depend on how badly the dealer wants to get rid of the particular bike. The best customers, or at least the ones who walked away with the best deals, were the ones who walked in knowing what they were willing to pay and then stuck to their guns until they got what they wanted. A good ballpark figure for a bike that is in reasonable demand is the MSRP plus tax and tags. Pay no processing, set-up, freight, appraisal, nor any other bulls#*t the dealer comes up with. Simply refuse to pay it. Oh, and one other thing...the Coleman salesman will usually quote a base price for the bike that is at least $200 above MSRP. Don't fall for it. Good Luck. Randy Moran Horkster wrote: > Tracy and I feel the strong urge to go deeper into > debt. Tonight we'll start looking for a 1999 Kawi > purple Concours for her! I know of two on dealer > floors in the area, Manassas Honda and Coleman Fairfax. > Anybody spotted new ones anywhere else in the area? > Successful leads will be rewarded with cold beverages > of your choice. :) > > Also, say if I buy one new in Maryland, how painful > is it to get it initially registered in Virginia? > I don't know if out-of-state dealer's do this sort > of thing... > > Any of you newer bike owners know off the top of your > head what dealer's typically charge for freight, and > prep charges? It'll probably vary by bike, but it > doesn't hurt to compare notes. I'll be looking up > the info from my purchase of BugSlayer I last year when > I get home, just curious about anybody else's experiences. > > I'll still have to add in tax and license fees, anything > else? I'm trying to get a better deal on this one.... > Help always appreciated. > > Dale (this new bike fever is pretty cool... :) > > -- > Dale Horstman (The Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, VA, USA, Earth > > "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet > sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." > - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" > -- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 10:44:11 1999 From: "Carver, John M, BGM" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Thanks to Anita Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:43:40 -0400 I wanted to take my turn for a second and thank Anita for letting us all terrorize Daisy(?) for the afternoon while we filled up on grilled animal flesh. It was great! As for the ride, again, thanks Collin. We even had the pleasure or running around the Loudon "test" track. Gotta run . . . AT&T bills are calling . . . John 98 VFR From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 11:15:28 1999 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:16:32 -0400 Subject: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ Recap First off, thanks to everyone for the kind words... it was a lot of work putting the BBQ together (and cleaning my house!), but it was well worth it! :-) I just wish it hadn't been so darn hot yesterday! I think my neighbors just had to be impressed by the 28 or so bikes that showed up for the ride. As the fast group pulled out, I kept waiting for more bikes to follow.. then I realized that, for once, the medium pace group was bigger than the fast group! :-) I think the split was something like 16/12. It was easy to keep track of my group, though, since Snake and his wife were easy to spot as they rode in the sweep position. I didn't do a good job on the pre-ride brief as I forgot to mention the short section of dirt road we'd be riding on, and I neglected to tell Collin about the "planned" stop for gas in Marshall. Overall it was a great ride, even with the heat. I'll type up a route sheet since I didn't have copies for everyone yesterday. There seemed to be quite a few LEO's on the road.. part of the Memorial Day weekend crackdown apparently. We all made it through unscathed, though... I was especially glad when a motorcycle cop in Leesburg didn't seem to mind that I was doing 50 in a 35 (oops!). Maybe he was admiring out bikes! :-) Unfortunately we did have two mishaps, one in the fast group, and for the first time, one in the group I was leading. Both riders were able to ride their bikes home, thankfully. I'll let those guys tell their stories, if they want to. With the delays we didn't get back to my house until almost 3 pm, and the BBQ started immediately. There was lots of food, and everyone was really hungry (from what I could tell!). My dogs seemed to enjoy all the company, and were zonked out pretty early last night. Of course now they'll be expecting a party every weekend! :-) Overall I had a great time... this might even become an annual event! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 11:17:35 1999 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Carver, John M, BGM" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:18:35 -0400 Subject: Re: Thanks to Anita On 1 Jun 99, at 10:43, Carver, John M, BGM wrote: > I wanted to take my turn for a second and thank Anita for letting us all > terrorize Daisy(?) for the afternoon while we filled up on grilled animal > flesh. It was great! Don't worry... Daisy and Vicky got their revenge... apparently one (or both!) of them has learned the art of "counter surfing" and nabbed the remaining chocolate chip cookies! The day before it was a couple bites taken out of a pan of brownies! Guess I won't be leaving any food out at all anymore! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 12:06:54 1999 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: FW: something just for fun.......... (fwd) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:06:41 -0700 heh... this doesn't relate to anyone here... really (now where'd I put that NOS refill kit and the blower belt?) Brian You know you have too much horsepower when: 1. The emissions test guy starts laughing as soon as you pull onto the rollers. 2. Your significant other is afraid to ride on your bike 3. You are afraid to ride your bike 4. You spend more on tires than on food. 5. You spend more on bike insurance than on house payments. 6. You look in a state police car and see a picture of your bike taped to the dash. 7. You throw your underwear in the garbage rather than the hamper. 8. You have to go to the track to buy gas. 9. Your mechanic names the new wing of his shop after you. 10. You can make the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs. 11. You're tempted to wear your leathers just to drive to the office. 12. Red signal lights shift to green as you're approaching then shift back to red as you're receding. 13. You arrive somewhere before you left. 14. You get pulled over for doing 155 in a 35 but the cops will let you go if they can ride your bike 15. You get an anonymous phone call asking if you are interested in being in the Cannonball Run. 16. Your face looks like you are riding a NASA centrifuge even with your helmet on. 17. You need parachute braking. 18. There is no possible way to sneak out of your neighborhood at 6AM. 19. Your pets scramble for their hiding spots as soon as the garage door is opened. 20. Your neighbors scramble for their hiding spots as soon as the garage door is opened. 21. Family photos throughout the house are replace with life-sized posters of your bike 22. Fuel is delivered to your home in 55 gallon drums. 23. You carry earplugs at all times 24. The only spot on the bike which receives any regular cleaning is the windscreen. 35. You find out that side mirrors don't hold up at speeds exceeding 175mph And my personal favorite: You know you have too much horsepower when you can out accelerate a 2 stroke! John Aylor NM From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 12:19:06 1999 From: "Fagan, Collin LT" To: "'dc'" Subject: FW: FS by original owner - garage kept '90 EX500, 17K miles - $ 800 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:18:14 -0400 Here's a good one...=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: J. Andrew Culpepper [SMTP:biga@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 12:17 PM > To: ex500@XXXXXX > Subject: FS by original owner - garage kept '90 EX500, 17K miles - > $800 >=20 > FS by original owner - garage kept '90 EX500, 17K miles - $800 >=20 > Hi, > The bike has been sitting for 8 years. The tank now has stuff > growing in > it and I'm sure the carbs need a thorough cleaning. It has been down = once > in soft ground when I ran off the road in a construction area. = Shortly > after replacing the damaged parts on the right side, it rolled off = the > kickstand and fell on the left side in the back yard). The only part > missing now is the dash panel. =20 >=20 > It had been running fine until all of a sudden, it started riding > like a > single and the left header was beginning to get discolored. I've = only > ridden about 10 miles with the bike in this condition, trying to = figure > out > what was wrong. I feared a sticking or damaged exhaust valve but the > dealer suspects a clogged carburetor jet. I'd like to just get rid = of it > and concentrate on fixing up my '85 GPz 550. =20 >=20 > It has never had any engine work done except valve adjustments. > I've > always used Mobil 15w50 in it. >=20 > I may help with delivery in the D.C. area. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Andrew >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > = =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4= =F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8=F8=A4=BA= =B0`=B0=BA=A4 > J. Andrew Culpepper biga@XXXXXX KD4KLS > King George, VA Phone/Fax (540) 775-3984 > Work Phone (540) 653-8362 > =09 >=20 > To unsubscribe: EX500-request@XXXXXX > with: unsubscribe - in message body From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 12:41:33 1999 From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:40:19 EDT Subject: Re: Am I the only one.. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX What's worse is looking at a clock that says 3:14 and think pi!! Ugh.... Robert "musta hit my head to hard..." VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 12:57:24 1999 From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:54:24 EDT Subject: Re: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ Recap To: 2xracers@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Thanks again Anita! Great food, great drinks, great conversations, and cool dogs! What more could one want? Hey, and I even got to clean my bike and assess the damage when I got home (sarcasm mode ON). What can I say? After that little bit of dirt riding, I figured a dual-sport ride was in order! So, with the added persuasion of a little red car crowding the center of the road, I took my Shadow off-road and down an embankment after a turn. Bummer that the trees stopped me from going into that swamp! On a more serious note, I replaced my helmet today with a new Shoei RF-800. And overall damage to the bike is very minimal. I'll get a new tank after I do some research into converting a larger tank for use on the Shadow. Hopefully Baltimore Cycle Salvage has a shifter, and I'll bend the footpeg bracket back into position at work. No other damage noted! :) I had a great time, and really appreciate all the help I got after I wrecked. Had I been riding alone, my bike would probably still be there! Hopefully I've filled my quota for accidents now (had a small fender bender in my car last month). Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 13:43:49 1999 From: "Coleman, Perry" To: "DC Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: FS: 1986 Kawasaki Concours Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:39:53 -0700 All, I have acquired a "new" 1992 Kawasaki Concours. As a result, I need to sell my 1986 Concours. Some specifics: Asking $2,400.00/obo Color is "Pearl Cosmic Grey" 997cc 16-valve 4 cylinder 42,500 miles New Metzler radials installed in March (at Art Crow's shop) Just had full tune-up, including Valve adjust and Carb Sync (at CAD in G'burg) Rifle Fairing & 15" shield Storz handlebar conversion with Daytona Touring bars Corbin Dual Canyon seat, with backrest, re-upholstered 1.5 years ago with "Saddlegel" pad added to drivers portion Tank half-bra Right side of bike was damaged in a get-off 2.5 years (and about 16,000 miles) ago - all plastic bits replaced. Frame has been checked for true, by Computrak, and is OK. Tank has small dent near where the fairing crosses it. Newer model (pebble finish) bags have replaced the originals. Original left bag (in good condition) and right bag (in bad condition) are available. While the bike may not be in perfect cosmetic condition, it is in very good condition, overall. I am the third owner of the bike. The first owner made most of the customizations, the second owner let the bike sit in a barn and (other than the mishap mentioned above) I have tried to keep the bike up. In the process I have ridden the bike for over 21,000 trouble-free miles the last three years. I asked Chris (the mechanic at CAD) what he thought after he tuned it and he said it's running great. I agree... ;^) Seriously, though, the bike is in excellent mechanical condition. The bike is a wonderful sport-touring motorcycle that is also superb for commuting in this area. I routinely commuted from Gaithersburg to downtown DC on the bike with no problems, except maybe getting hot (me, not the bike) in stop and go summer afternoon traffic. If you've made it this far and are still interested, you can see more about the bike (including some pix) at my website: http://www.coleman-services.net/concours If you want to contact me, you can respond to this e-mail address, which is my work and I check throughout the day, or you can respond to my personal e-mail, perry@XXXXXX, which I check in the evenings. Or, you can do it the old-fashioned way and call my home # 301-840-1345, my mobile phone # 202-262-9696 or my office at 301-947-7180. Regards, Perry From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 14:00:27 1999 X-Sender: brad@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 13:57:55 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Brad Subject: Track days, safety wiring, etc. Hmmmm. I think it was Loudon Motorsports (?) that was holding a track day at Summit Point in June or July. I seem to have lost the info on that...does anyone have the phone number to call / cost / other stuff pertaining to it? On that note, I'll need to safety wire my oil drain plug. Any recommendations on where to order from / what to buy would be appreciated. To anyone that has done this before, what are the chances I can do this without having to drain my oil (ie, drill and wire with the bolt in place...) ? Thanks in advance, Brad From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 14:16:28 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:18:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Track days, safety wiring, etc. To: Brad , dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- Brad wrote: > Hmmmm. I think it was Loudon Motorsports (?) that was holding a track > day > at Summit Point in June or July. I seem to have lost the info on > that...does anyone have the phone number to call / cost / other stuff > pertaining to it? > It's June 17th and the cost is $115 pre-registration I believe and $125 at the gate (+ - $5...don't have info handy). They're in the book (Loudoun Motorsports) > On that note, I'll need to safety wire my oil drain plug. Any > recommendations on where to order from / what to buy would be > appreciated. > Don't buy anything.. see one of your user friendly racers: Brian McCoy, Me, Joe Nagy, Steve Harris, David Cross, etc. etc. It's not worth buying a whole can of safety wire and pliers just to do the drain plug...It's a 5 minute job.... You *might* be able to do it without draining the oil depending on where it's at on the bottom of the bike and access to it, but it's a heck of a lot easier with it off... Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 14:20:06 1999 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Track days, safety wiring, etc. Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:19:15 -0700 Order.. buy?? huh? If you're just doing the min. required for the track day, bring your bike over and I'll have it done in 20 min (AFTER the bike cools enough that I can touch the beast!). Hrm.. standard payment of beer is accepted (cash, why would I accept something like that?) I might substitute for pizza though... ;) If you want to own the bits and pieces, I suspect Robert VanSliyke (SP!! I know.. I'm bad with names) can point you in a good direction as it's directly related to aviation (A small set of pliers, and some medium gauge wire). Then it's just a 1/32 or 1/16th drill bit and hole away from being ready for wire. You CAN drill the drain-plug with it in the bike... but it's a pain in the arse... best bet is to drain the oil into a CLEAN drain pan, then put it back into the engine. Anyway.. same offer goes to anyone who's interested.. Race-bike prep am I - no toll free number, no hidden sur-charges, no shipping fees, no fine print... bring only quality (i.e. NOT a macro-brewed) beer - show up with less, and I'll find something else to do (hrm.. that nail looks tight.. I think I'll pull it out, and re nail it in...) Brian (blessed with a SIMPLE name) McCoy From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 14:31:26 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:33:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Non-Moto: Wheels for sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sorry for yet another non moto spam attempt.. but the moving is almost over ;-) I have a set of four "Superior" (or was that superier??) brand aluminum wheels. They are 15 x 6.5 inch and in pretty good condition. I've been carrying them around for several years now after I un-riceboyed an older VW Rabbit I had a few years back... You can see a crappy pic of them on the car at: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ratchet.jpg They are a 4 bolt pattern, and as mentioned above, they came off an 81 Rabbit....I can measure the distance between bolts this evening if anyone is interested.... I'm entertaining any decent offer...don't see me owning a car again any time soon.... Collin (703) 492-4042 any time this evening... === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 14:39:23 1999 From: Boiade@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:37:32 EDT Subject: Throttle Assembly To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Anybody have a two cable throttle assembly (no switches etc.) just a throttle assembly for a racebike available? Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 14:47:39 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 14:46:50 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: Track days, safety wiring, etc. To: "'dc'" X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Well damn, since you're offering, you can safety wire my bike anytime! Just let me know what malted beverage you prefer....heh heh Jon > Order.. buy?? huh? If you're just doing the min. required for the track > day, bring your bike over and I'll have it done in 20 min (AFTER the bike > cools enough that I can touch the beast!). Hrm.. standard payment of beer > is accepted (cash, why would I accept something like that?) I might > substitute for pizza though... ;) > > If you want to own the bits and pieces, I suspect Robert VanSliyke (SP!! I > know.. I'm bad with names) can point you in a good direction as it's > directly related to aviation (A small set of pliers, and some medium gauge > wire). Then it's just a 1/32 or 1/16th drill bit and hole away from being > ready for wire. > > You CAN drill the drain-plug with it in the bike... but it's a pain in the > arse... best bet is to drain the oil into a CLEAN drain pan, then put it > back into the engine. > > Anyway.. same offer goes to anyone who's interested.. Race-bike prep am I - > no toll free number, no hidden sur-charges, no shipping fees, no fine > print... bring only quality (i.e. NOT a macro-brewed) beer - show up with > less, and I'll find something else to do (hrm.. that nail looks tight.. I > think I'll pull it out, and re nail it in...) > > > Brian (blessed with a SIMPLE name) McCoy > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 14:52:26 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:54:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Paging Danny Thompson To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Danny, your last email to me wouldn't open up...(dang web based email...) but I know what you wanted to discuss... Give me a shout at the office...(I'll be in and out..) at (202) 366-0067 or (800) 986 9678 x60067 Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 14:53:59 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 14:48:14 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Track days, safety wiring, etc. To: Brad , dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >From Matt: Summit Point has *finally* executed the contract agreement with Loudoun Motorsports. So, at long last, track day tickets are now on sale for the track day on Wednesday, June 17th. Ticket prices are now $115 and will be $125 if you choose to buy them at the gate on the 17th. Again, requirements: safety wire oil drain plug, replace coolant with distilled water, tape/remove lights, speedo, any glass, etc., proper riding attire (leathers, 2 pair jeans, kevlar, etc.) Please call Scott at Loudoun Motorsports at 703-777-1652 for any additonal info. > > Hmmmm. I think it was Loudon Motorsports (?) that was holding a track day > at Summit Point in June or July. I seem to have lost the info on > that...does anyone have the phone number to call / cost / other stuff > pertaining to it? > > On that note, I'll need to safety wire my oil drain plug. Any > recommendations on where to order from / what to buy would be appreciated. > > To anyone that has done this before, what are the chances I can do this > without having to drain my oil (ie, drill and wire with the bolt in > place...) ? > > Thanks in advance, > > Brad > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 15:52:04 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 15:47:35 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gixer_racer@XXXXXX Subject: Non-Moto: Wheels for sale -Reply Content-Disposition: inline .don't see me owning a car again any time soon.... Collin You planning on buyin a snowmo when you get to Michigan? ;-) Joe From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 17:48:41 1999 From: djones@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: thunderacelist@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:46:01 -0400 Subject: Uncontrollable Thoughts.... Okay, since returning from Myrtle Beach, how come I'm having thoughts about selling my YZF1000R & buying an R1??? I guess it was inevitable, but I love my TA. What, what am I saying? Gulp.......Oh no Anyone interested? DJ From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 18:03:24 1999 From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Great Ride,Great Food,Great Company Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:06:47 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Thanks to Anita for the hospitality on Monday. I had a great time (except I ate to much!). It was great meeting more riders from the list. See ya all soon. Brian N. 96 Yamaha FZR600 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 18:10:23 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:14:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Uncontrollable Thoughts.... To: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Why??? What with the R1 do for you on the street that your TA can't do as well or better.... the R1 costs a lot more, is less comfortable, is probably more expensive to insure, etc. etc. etc. Or are you planning on racing it?? The only thing you'll gain is pose factor, but at the cost of a whole lot of other more desirable features IMNHO... Collin --- djones@XXXXXX wrote: > Okay, since returning from Myrtle Beach, how come I'm having thoughts > about > selling my YZF1000R & buying an R1??? > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 18:12:45 1999 From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:11:44 EDT Subject: One Lap (short version) To: cb-750@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Gmars@XXXXXX, , nomad98@XXXXXX, zbig@XXXXXX, Lordorange@XXXXXX 1. The idea was to ride completely around the State of WV. Three very diverse machines made the trek. Nancy and I were on our 750 Night Hawk,Keith on an Ultra Classic Electra Glide, and Zbig on his CBR XX. 2. Almost all the roads were fun, well paved and very crooked. Special mention should go the following : 1. Un-numbered on the map but runs from Morefield south to Sugar Grove . Specail because it follows the South Branch of the Potomac. 2. West of Princeton , 161 from Elkorn west to War and then 83 and 80 to Iaeger. You should have seen the smile on Keith's face when he finished horsing that big Harley around. Don't believe the mags, you can have great fun in the twistys on a big cruiser. Up north, the nominee is 7 from New Martinsville to Morgantown. 50 from Aurora across to Romney was surprisingly light traffic and of course is a classic. Lots of bikes headed west returning from Rolling Thunder. 3. Roads that didn't turn out as well include: 152 from near Crum to Huntington because of fairly heavy cager traffic moving at a reduced pace. 2,62,33,68 and 2again between Huntington and Parkersburg were not much as roads, the scenery was nice since they run along the Ohio River. 4. We saw no law enforcement officers until we were running north on the western side of state along the river. Odd, but I guess most of them were on the slabs. 5.We stayed in motels. Only one of which deserves special mention, because it had reserved moto parking up front near the office, the Ramda at exit 176 in Parkersburg. Bob McKeithen (feel free to forward to those who might be interested) From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 19:31:40 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 99 19:25:59 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 06/01/99 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Yeah, thanks Anita for setting things up. My first Dc cycle ride, won't be the last if i stay in the area. Had fun, though didn't meet as many people as I would have liked, but I had to take off and couldn't stick around for the bbq. I was on the 91 VFR in the slow group, VA plate RUASQD. Very restful ride, roads aren't nearly as deceptive as they were in OH where I've been riding-I kept expecting blind turns over the hills, and they weren't there. Not a complaint, just an observation. Also none of the decreasing radius turns that OH road guys love. Definately makes things easier. Did about 200 miles total Monday, and definately need a new jacket-the HG Summit is too damn hot. maybe one of those Honda Perf jackets that look so nice. Or the vanson. keep the right side up, Greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/1/99 HSTA/AMA 7:25:59 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 20:28:01 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:28:41 -0400 From: Larry Meyer X-Accept-Language: en To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Annual BBQ?!? Weekly! Anita, thanks for the great food, company, and ride. I don't think annual is often enough. Looking forward to seeing the completed Lauro casa. If you do as well inside as you did outside, it'll be Taj Mahal Sterling. I talked to Dave (fast group casualty) today - he's feeling better than I expected, but good would be stretching it a bit. Sore shoulder and a few other bumps. Good thing - if he'd really gotten hurt, I'd have had to kick his butt. Later, Larry Meyer Annandale, VA '97 Bandit 1200 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 22:33:55 1999 From: JimJacks@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:32:16 EDT Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 06/01/99 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Hi all Usually silent but wanted to send thanks to a few. Anita, great ride, thanks alot, I enjoyed it all immensly, especially finding Rob to be in working condition. A few people in the afternoon fast group, thanks for not running me over! Collin, (& crew) thanks for the lessons, especially when I first joined the afternoon fast group, I recall thinking, "well, I know it is physically possible to do this cuz they are, so I guess I had just better push harder on the handgrip." I approached my limit a few times that afternoon, but I liked it. Urselandra(sp?) thanks for leaving me that extra inch or two to manuver! heheheh! Hope that my rich running left side didnt give you a buz! And thanks for the starting tips, (Brian? and Urselandra) which reminds me, thanks to ALL for not trying to fix my bikes hard starting problem! We appreciated the space and faith! Sorry for the starter drone. Nice to get better aquainted with some of you, though many of you are much more into bikes than I, I enjoy the runs, the conversation, and the people all the same! Mostly, thanks to all for a good time and for being good folks. Oh yea, good to see you again Snake, was surprised to find you in this group! -Jim zx11 From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 08:21:18 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 08:13:03 -0700 From: jambroga Subject: For Sale : 90 EX 500 Racebike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 1990 EX 500 - Progressive Springs, fork brace, full floating rotor, braided lines, EX250 bars, ZX7 seat, ZX7 rear cowling, Works Peformance shock, rearsets, K&N pods, Muzzy exhaust. Totally ready to race. Comes with spare set of wheels, mounted with fresh K591's, and spare motor. Misc extras stock fairings, speedometer, carbs, calipers ect.) I have been racing it and having a blast. $2200. Jbroga@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 10:48:49 1999 From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:43:02 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Third Annual Leesburg Police Motorcycle Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics Poker Run begins and ends at Leesburg Police Department 65 Plaza Street N.E., Leesburg, Virginia Saturday, June 5, 1999 REGISTRATION AND START.- 9AM - 11AM at Leesburg Police Department 9:30 AM - Police Escort Leaves (Ride with us!) LAST BIKE OUT AT 11:00 A.M. LAST BIKE IN AT 3:00 P.M. COST: $10.00 per hand (additional hands may be purchased for $10.00) Includes poker hand, breakfast, lunch, and 1 door prize ticket. (Additional door prizes may be purchased for $1). Leesburg Restaurant will be providing a complimentary bikers breakfast. Hog Wild Ribs will be providing a complimentary lunch of Barbecue Chicken. Prizes: Best Poker Hand: Deluxe Room for 2 Lansdowne Resort Dinner for 2 Riverside Hearth 2nd Best: 27" Magnavox Stereo T.V. Leesburg Wal-Mart 3rd Best: Sanyo 4 Head VCR Leesburg Wal-Mart Door Prizes: $100.00 Gift Certificate - Winchester Harley-Davidson $70.00 Gift Certificate - Tuscarora Mill at Leesburg $50.00 Gift Certificate - Whitt's Harley-Davidson Sales, Inc. $30.00 Gift Certificate - Del Rio Mexican Restaurant $30.00 Gift Certificate - Southstreet Under $30.00 Gift Certificate - Shooters Cafe' $30.00 Gift Certificate - Shooters Cafe' $25.00 Gift Certificate - Apple Bee's (Leesburg) $25.00 Gift Certificate - Ruby Tuesdays (Leesburg) $25.00 Gift Certificate - Tractor Supply Company (Leesburg) $20.00 Gift Certificate - Don Pablo Mexican Restaurant $20.00 Gift Certificate - Don Pablo Mexican Restaurant Skil Cordless Drill - J.T. Hirst Company Dinner For Two - Bella Luna Restaurant Sunday Brunch for Two - Green Tree Restaurant Free Motorcycle Battery - Battery Warehouse (Leesburg) 2 Art Prints - Dick Kramer Studios Lube, Oil, Filter, Front End Alignment - Catoctin Automotive Lube, Oil, Filter - Merchants Tire (Leesburg) Lube, Oil, Filter - Midas Muffler (Leesburg) Lube, Oil, Filter - Tire Shop 10 Free Passes to Ida Lee Recreation Center Question??? Call OFC. Bill Wolff or OFF. Mark McCartney at Leesburg Police Dept. 703/771-4503 RAIN OR SHINE WE RIDE! COME SHARE THE DAY! From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 11:11:11 1999 From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Bruce Norton" cc: "DC Cycles" Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:01:26 -0400 Subject: Re: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics Content-Disposition: inline Thomas & I are considering going on this...anyone else thinking of going? - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Bruce Norton" on 06/02/99 10:43:02 AM To: "DC Cycles" cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics Third Annual Leesburg Police Motorcycle Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics Poker Run begins and ends at Leesburg Police Department 65 Plaza Street N.E., Leesburg, Virginia Saturday, June 5, 1999 REGISTRATION AND START.- 9AM - 11AM at Leesburg Police Department 9:30 AM - Police Escort Leaves (Ride with us!) LAST BIKE OUT AT 11:00 A.M. LAST BIKE IN AT 3:00 P.M. COST: $10.00 per hand (additional hands may be purchased for $10.00) Includes poker hand, breakfast, lunch, and 1 door prize ticket. (Additional door prizes may be purchased for $1). Leesburg Restaurant will be providing a complimentary bikers breakfast. Hog Wild Ribs will be providing a complimentary lunch of Barbecue Chicken. Question??? Call OFC. Bill Wolff or OFF. Mark McCartney at Leesburg Police Dept. 703/771-4503 RAIN OR SHINE WE RIDE! COME SHARE THE DAY! From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 12:12:59 1999 Errors-To: Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:12:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles ftp server question? Can anyone tell me how to create a directory on the ftp server? I've tried using mkdir and it says it's an unknown command even though it's listed under help. I'm trying to upload the pictures that I took at the Crowbar block party since the DC Area Riders section of Yahoo is now full. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 12:19:51 1999 Errors-To: Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:18:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics I'm considering it. After all I can always use a little more good Karma. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > > > Thomas & I are considering going on this...anyone else thinking of going? > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > > > > "Bruce Norton" on 06/02/99 10:43:02 AM > > > To: "DC Cycles" > cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) > Subject: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics > > > > > > Third Annual Leesburg Police Motorcycle Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics > > Poker Run begins and ends at Leesburg Police Department > 65 Plaza Street N.E., Leesburg, Virginia > Saturday, June 5, 1999 > > REGISTRATION AND START.- > 9AM - 11AM at Leesburg Police Department > 9:30 AM - Police Escort Leaves (Ride with us!) > LAST BIKE OUT AT 11:00 A.M. LAST BIKE IN AT 3:00 P.M. > > COST: $10.00 per hand (additional hands may be purchased for $10.00) > Includes poker hand, breakfast, lunch, and 1 door prize ticket. > (Additional door prizes may be purchased for $1). > > Leesburg Restaurant will be providing a complimentary bikers breakfast. > Hog Wild Ribs will be providing a complimentary lunch of Barbecue Chicken. > > Question??? Call OFC. Bill Wolff or OFF. Mark McCartney at > Leesburg Police Dept. 703/771-4503 > > RAIN OR SHINE WE RIDE! COME SHARE THE DAY! > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 12:19:53 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:21:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics To: DC-Cycles --- Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > Thomas & I are considering going on this...anyone else thinking of going? > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 If I were not teaching this weekend, I'd be there (especially now that the girl I'm dating is getting hooked on riding). I went on this run before, and it was fun. They picked fairly good roads, and there are a lot of happy bikers there. The year I went, they had free hamburgers cooked on site by the folks at Lone Star, with all the toppings and soda too. That alone was worth the price! They also gave out lots of door prizes (I got 2 tickets to DC United). Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 12:28:47 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 12:25:15 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: bnorton@XXXXXX, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics -Reply Content-Disposition: inline Thinking about it. kind of a haul, so I'd prob be starting "later." Joe 85 900 Ninja >>> - 6/2/99 11:01 AM >>> Thomas & I are considering going on this...anyone else thinking of going? - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Bruce Norton" on 06/02/99 10:43:02 AM To: "DC Cycles" cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics Third Annual Leesburg Police Motorcycle Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics Poker Run begins and ends at Leesburg Police Department 65 Plaza Street N.E., Leesburg, Virginia Saturday, June 5, 1999 REGISTRATION AND START.- 9AM - 11AM at Leesburg Police Department 9:30 AM - Police Escort Leaves (Ride with us!) LAST BIKE OUT AT 11:00 A.M. LAST BIKE IN AT 3:00 P.M. COST: $10.00 per hand (additional hands may be purchased for $10.00) Includes poker hand, breakfast, lunch, and 1 door prize ticket. (Additional door prizes may be purchased for $1). Leesburg Restaurant will be providing a complimentary bikers breakfast. Hog Wild Ribs will be providing a complimentary lunch of Barbecue Chicken. Question??? Call OFC. Bill Wolff or OFF. Mark McCartney at Leesburg Police Dept. 703/771-4503 RAIN OR SHINE WE RIDE! COME SHARE THE DAY! From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 12:31:15 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:30:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: More dirt riding, 6/6 Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative This time we'll be just south of Clinton, MD next to Rt 5. It will be another afternoon ride (say, 2:00pm or so). Let me know if you're interested in coming and I'll give more details. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 12:36:29 1999 X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 12:35:25 -0400 To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: dc-cycles ftp server question? As the ftp server operator, I would be happy to help..... ftp://ftp.wheatintl.com/incoming/dc-cycles Just create a directory on your Windoze desktop, name it whatever you want, then drag and drop that folder into the dc-cycles directory. Netscape will do ftp uploads, or you can use command line ftp or a nice GUI like the one in the /pub directory (same ftp server). MT At 12:12 PM 6/2/99 , Hugh A. Caldwell wrote: > > Can anyone tell me how to create a directory on >the ftp server? I've tried using mkdir and it says it's >an unknown command even though it's listed under help. >I'm trying to upload the pictures that I took at the >Crowbar block party since the DC Area Riders section of >Yahoo is now full. > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI >---------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 12:42:33 1999 X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 12:41:54 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics At 12:21 PM 6/2/99 , Louis F. Caplan wrote: >--- Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: >> Thomas & I are considering going on this...anyone else thinking of going? I'll be there. ZMan is trying to fix his bike in time. If he gets it done, we'll both be there + one more (San Diego transplant with a year old Ninja....) ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 12:49:02 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 12:43:32 -0400 From: "Mullins John" Organization: BAH To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics If the weather is nice that day I will probably be there. - John Mullins 95 Ninja EX500 Hugh A. Caldwell wrote: > > I'm considering it. After all I can always use > a little more good Karma. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > > > > Thomas & I are considering going on this...anyone else thinking of going? > > > > - Jeannette > > '86 VFR 700 F2 > > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 12:51:39 1999 From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:50:55 EDT Subject: Re: dc-cycles ftp server question? To: Turnip@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX hey how was the party?? I wanted to go but my parents and grandmother were visiting for the weekend and it wasn't really their cup o' tea ..... oh well next year I guess :D Marcy In a message dated 6/2/99 12:19:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Turnip@XXXXXX writes: << Crowbar block party >> From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 12:59:52 1999 From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Third Annual Leesburg Police Motorcycle Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:55:32 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Third Annual Leesburg Police Motorcycle Poker Run for Virginia Special = Olympics=20 I did it two years ago, it was earlier in the year, and cold, and damp, = but fun nonetheless. Looking forward to doing it again. I expect to be = there to leave at 9:30. Hope to see some of you. Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 13:00:55 1999 X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:01:58 -0400 To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: Re: dc-cycles ftp server question? Make sure you're in the incoming directory... otherwise, you don't have the access permissions to make a directory. I tried it out, and it works fine. Try this... 1)ftp ftp.wheatintl.com 2)cd incoming/dc-cycles 3)mkdir test - the directory should get created - type ls and see if it's there 4)rm test - this will get rid of the test directory 5)mkdir "your directory" 6)cd "your directory" - then use put to place whatever file you want in that dir. If you're using Windows or NT... go to www.shareware.com and search for a program called CuteFTP... it's a graphical FTP program that makes life much easier than using character based ftp. At 12:12 PM 6/2/99 -0400, Hugh A. Caldwell wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to create a directory on >the ftp server? I've tried using mkdir and it says it's >an unknown command even though it's listed under help. >I'm trying to upload the pictures that I took at the >Crowbar block party since the DC Area Riders section of >Yahoo is now full. > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI >---------------------------------------------------------------- ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://ussales/granth From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 13:06:15 1999 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:05:08 -0400 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: RE: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics To: DC Cycles Dale and I can't go - we're attending his brother's wedding. If anyone does go though, please send me a copy of the routes used. I'll be putting together a poker run to benefit Girl Scouts later this summer/early fall. It's going to go from girl scout camp to girl scout camp in Virginia (There's on in Stafford, Oakton & Leesburg) so I'm looking for any routes and/or suggestions you may have. This will benefit my Daisy troop (kindergarten girls). Usually Girl Scouts earn their money through cookie sales but Daisies are allowed to sale cookies. :( So I have to find other ways to raise money. Thanks! From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 13:16:38 1999 Errors-To: Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:16:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles ftp server question? I enjoyed it. Judging by the number of people leaving early my guess is that a lot of people where probably dissappointed. Lots of funky Harleys and funkier Harley chicks. Now if I could only post those darn pictures! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > hey how was the party?? > I wanted to go but my parents and grandmother were visiting for the weekend > and it wasn't really their cup o' tea ..... oh well next year I guess :D > > Marcy > > In a message dated 6/2/99 12:19:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Turnip@XXXXXX > writes: > > << Crowbar block party >> > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 13:21:03 1999 X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:22:06 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: Re: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics It's supposed to be another beautiful day, and if as many people are going as it sounds, then it might be fun, so count me in. Where to meet??? At 12:43 PM 6/2/99 -0400, Mullins John wrote: >If the weather is nice that day I will probably be there. > >- John Mullins >95 Ninja EX500 > > >Hugh A. Caldwell wrote: > > > > I'm considering it. After all I can always use > > a little more good Karma. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Thomas & I are considering going on this...anyone else thinking of going? > > > > > > - Jeannette > > > '86 VFR 700 F2 > > > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://ussales/granth From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 13:31:46 1999 Errors-To: Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:31:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Crowbar bloc party pictures With a little help from my friends I was finally able to upload my pictures from the Crowbar block party. If you're interested you can see them at ftp://ftp.wheatintl.com/incoming/dc-cycles/crowbar/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 13:34:33 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:33:20 -0400 From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: cog@XXXXXX Subject: FWD: LDRider: Spring Sale Just forwarding this along, if anyone is interested. Contact Berti, not me. See ya. Dale (the Horkster) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Levy, Berti" Reply-To: "Levy, Berti" Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:24:01 -0700 > Five years later, my closets are overfilled with bike paraphenalia that I don't use and never really did for very long. Time to clean 'em out. --Airhawk Seat Cushion - $125 --Shoei RF700 Medium/Black (scratched but never dropped or crashed) - $75 --Gerbing Heated Jacket Liner (XSmall) - $125 --Gerbing Heated Socks - $40 --Gerbing Heated Gloves (Medium) - $85 --Ventura Bike Pack 44L Bag (still in plastic) - $75 --Uniden BCT-12 Beartracker/w/weather alert- $125 --Eclipse Rear Seat Pack - $25 --Spartan Magnetic Tank Bag (fairly small/non-expandable) - $30 --Hein Gericke Leather Jacket (don't know model name) has snap out thin liner/front and rear dual zipper vents-$150 --Corbin Backrest Black/w pouch - $75 --Bagster Alpha Tankbag (black) does NOT include tank bra - $85 --BMW K11LT/GS Top Box Liner - $50 --ST1100 HELI-BAR black/some scratches on front of up/down adjuster - $150 That covers it, feel free to pass along the shopping list to anyone who might be interested (lists, etc.) I'll split shipping in the lower 48. Thanks for the bandwidth. Berti Levy From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 13:48:48 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:50:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Erik Schelzig To: "'dc'" Subject: DC Parking . . . again So I've finally gotten on the treadmill of every-day worker life, and am now contemplating my parking situation. I know we've seen various veins of this go through the list but in summary here is the situation: * DC has changed the motorcycle meters from none to 12 hrs to 4 hrs. I'm at work for 9 hours, falling between the 7am-6:30pm range posted on the meters. This would mean I would have to run down three blocks to the World Bank twice during the day to feed the meter. No thanks to that one. * It has been suggested that one walk around to the various parking garages and find out if they will let you park behind a pillar. I tried this. Most said no. Some said yes, but at full car prices. No thank you, again. * Parking on the street, between cars. I have an old bike (CX500) so no big security risk for me. On the other hand, we still have that as of yet unresolved ticketing issue to deal with, i.e. how strict, etc. Ideas? Any suggestions are welcomed! Allbests, Erik ==== Erik J. Schelzig http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~schelzig From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 14:03:47 1999 X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:03:19 -0400 To: "'dc'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: DC Parking . . . again At 01:50 PM 6/2/99 , Erik Schelzig wrote: >* DC has changed the motorcycle meters from none to 12 hrs to 4 hrs. I'm >at work for 9 hours, falling between the 7am-6:30pm range posted on the >meters. This would mean I would have to run down three blocks to the >World Bank twice during the day to feed the meter. No thanks to that one. That's not bad, for DC. >* Parking on the street, between cars. I have an old bike (CX500) so no >big security risk for me. On the other hand, we still have that as of yet >unresolved ticketing issue to deal with, i.e. how strict, etc. Ideas? I met one guy who always parked right at the meter, figuring the cars on each side of him would keep the meters fed - he said he only got about one ticket a month ($15/month for parking is a good deal). Parking at the end of the block where the space is too long for a car is a good place to go, but you have to pay car meter prices. Experimenting, most likely will cost only the $15 ticket - enforcement is highly variable around town. Me, I'd keep looking for a parking garage, and use m/c parking spaces until then. good luck, Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 14:07:30 1999 Errors-To: Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:07:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: How to become a Motorcycle Roadracer Saw this on the KZ/GPz/ZR list and thought I would pass it along. http://www.io.com/~duke/newrrfaq.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 14:14:59 1999 From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:05:29 -0400 Subject: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I thought I'd relate a conversation I had with a Harley "enthusiast" at the Rolling Thunder procession on Sunday. While sitting on a wall along Constitution Ave. waiting for the line of bikes to come by, I started talking to the guy seated next to me. He was a scrawny looking guy in his early twenties. He mentioned that he owned three Harleys and that he would have ridden down to the Mall on his Sporster but the clutch burned out that morning. His other two bikes were apparently in pieces for some reason or another. He only had a couple of bucks and was a bit worried that he wouldn't be able to afford a return Metro ticket and lunch as well. When I mentioned to him that I rode down on the Honda VTR sitting in front of us, he snorted and told me I "should get a REAL bike." He then went on to say that when he decided to buy a bike he was either going to buy a Harley or no bike at all and that only "chumps" ride bikes like mine. I felt like saying that I only own ONE bike, and it not only runs but performs better than his and doesn't send me to the poorhouse. I didn't, mostly because I figured that there was no way I was going to change his mind after his twenty-some years of Harley indoctrination and that starting trouble with this guy wouldn't solve anything. His attitude bugged me not only because he was insulting, but that he felt no comradery with bikers of other makes. His was the typical attitude of those Harley riders that refuse to wave to riders of other bikes. It seems that having that sort of attitude is like shooting oneself in the foot in these days when all bikers need to stick together. I thought going to this event would be fun and I could see some interesting bikes and meet some people. I left the Mall before the bikes rode through, however, feeling very unwelcome. I wouldn't have been suprised if most of the other riders in the crowd felt similarly to this punk. I won't be attending any mostly-Harley events in the future if this is the quality of person found there. Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 14:34:24 1999 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:29:32 -0700 Funny, that mimics, almost exactly, every experience I've had with 'spectators' in the crowds attending itmes that are typically Harledy only (Sturgis being the most notable). What's sad, is that the attitude isn't brand related either.. it's just attitude. Tom and Jeannette Zell and I were headed out 66 on Sunday afternoon.. they on Honda VFRs me on a Duc.. there's an older Honda Goldwing hanging out in the left lane... just putting along (ok, he was doing 60~65). I pull into the next lane, and slowly move up next to him, and turn to look and wave... this guy, and his barely clothed Female passanger, just watched straight ahead. I sped up for a sec, then dropped back, again looking to wave... nothing. Come on people... 2 wheels, what's the difference what kind of engine's in the frame? Well Chris.. perhaps you and I should just go out and enjoy a ride next time something like this is in the area... more worth the time (and you'll go home that evening with a smile instead of frustrated.) Brian From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 14:39:37 1999 X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:39:24 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder At 02:05 PM 6/2/99 , christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > He mentioned that he owned three >Harleys and that he would have ridden down to the Mall on his Sporster but >the clutch burned out that morning. His other two bikes were apparently in >pieces for some reason or another. He only had a couple of bucks and was a >bit worried that he wouldn't be able to afford a return Metro ticket and >lunch as well. When I mentioned to him that I rode down on the Honda VTR >sitting in front of us, he snorted and told me I "should get a REAL bike." >He then went on to say that when he decided to buy a bike he was either >going to buy a Harley or no bike at all and that only "chumps" ride bikes >like mine. So three bikes that don't run are better than one bike that does run. Okay. There's lots of snobs in the world, and you just met one of them. There are a bunch of them in the Harley world (who else regularly puts window stickers and bumperstickers on their cages to advertise what they're NOT riding?). But there's snobs everywhere, on most very bike brand ... at the most I just respond that I wouldn't think any more of telling THEM what to ride than they should tell ME what to ride. Just another dinosaur brain, ignore it. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 14:48:23 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:48:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > I thought I'd relate a conversation I had with a Harley "enthusiast" at the > Rolling Thunder procession on Sunday. I've met two types of Harley enthusiasts in my travels. The first was my friend's cousin who was like the person you described. "If you aren't riding a Harley, you aren't riding a motorcycle" (using more vulger terms too) "If I see your bike, I'll drop a match in your gas tank" type of guy. Basically full of hostility and hot air. Needless to say, I didn't see much of him, and didn't really mind. The other type are like a couple that I have taught the MSF class with several times. They both ride Harleys and have said they are only interested in riding Harleys. However, they have admired other bikes, and say it's not what you ride, it's that you ride. They laughed when I described some of the Harley comments we have had before on DC-Cycles (like the guy who said women would drive up and tell him how wet the motorcycle made them) They even invited me on a HOG poker run. I have to admit I was a bit nervous, but I showed up on my Honda Nighthawk-S. I didn't get one snide comment, and even had one person come up and say he was sorry he sold his Nighthawk-S. The HOG group was a real pleasure to ride with. So yes, there are some snotty Harley folks out there, but there are also some very friendly ones out there too. Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 15:10:15 1999 From: "Coleman, Perry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:06:21 -0700 Chris, This attitude (that it's Harley or nothing) is something I just ran into with a guy I'm working with these days. First off, this guy is professional as hell and I really respect his expertise in the field. Then we start talking about bikes. He tells me that he used to have a late model Low Rider Convertible. We exchanged some road stories and what-not. Then he tells me that he and his wife are at some event and they test ride a Road King. Well, they love the Road King. It's the cats-meow. etc. etc. Personally, I think his wife was a lot more comfortable on the Road King back seat than on that Low Rider seat, but there may be more to it than just that. Anyway, he "trades" in his Low Rider to GET ON A WAITING LIST for the Road King. That's right, he'd rather ride nothing for the next year or three while he's waiting for this "dream" bike. I think the look on my face completely flabbergasted him as the topic shifted away from bikes thereafter... He's never given me any attitude about my choice of ride, which is good because I'd really have to let him have it if he did. As much as I like and respect this guy, I don't see how he could EVER be considered a "biker." He may not be a "poseur" but he's not a true "biker." I may not ride a Harley, but I RIDE - and that makes me a biker. And I don't care what someone else rides, either. If someone really rides, then they're a biker (and I'll wave at them!) If not, they're just a poseur (or maybe a squid...) ;^) Life's too short. Ride, baby, ride! Perry 1986 Kawasaki Concours (For Sale) 1992 Kawasaki Concours > -----Original Message----- > From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX > [SMTP:christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 2:05 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder > > I thought I'd relate a conversation I had with a Harley "enthusiast" at > the > Rolling Thunder procession on Sunday. > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 15:11:42 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:11:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Nomad Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Chris, I rode in my third Rolling Thunder this past Sunday. While I'm not really into the "parade" scene as I prefer to ride instead, I was convinced by my buddy to ride in with him and was glad I did. The crowd was huge, with lots to look at ;~). My experience at RT XII was different than in the past two rides; this was the first time I felt welcome/accepted by the Harley crowd. Not only were they checking out my Magna and glad to talk to me regarding their rides, but they were checking out other Jap cruiser bikes as well. Even the Sports bikes were represented and somewhat accepted. My .02 worth/experience. Herb >I left the Mall before the bikes rode through, > however, feeling very unwelcome. I wouldn't have been suprised if most of > the other riders in the crowd felt similarly to this punk. I won't be > attending any mostly-Harley events in the future if this is the quality of > person found there. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 15:14:41 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:14:55 -0400 From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, nighthawk700@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder Louis wrote: > So yes, there are some snotty Harley folks out there, but there are > also some very friendly ones out there too. Big ditto to this. I've been snubbed by Harley folks, I've been snubbed by squids, I was even snubbed by the guy I sold my old LTD to. The world has more than it's share of a-holes. Ignore them. All bikes are cool. Without fail, I've enjoyed the company of everybody I've met who also felt this way. Life is too short to deal with brand-snobs. Ride on! Horkster -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 15:23:43 1999 X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:22:30 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder At 03:06 PM 6/2/99 , Coleman, Perry wrote: > Anyway, he >"trades" in his Low Rider to GET ON A WAITING LIST for the Road King. That's >right, he'd rather ride nothing for the next year or three while he's >waiting for this "dream" bike. I think the look on my face completely >flabbergasted him as the topic shifted away from bikes thereafter... ... > >As much as I like and respect this guy, I don't see how he could EVER be >considered a "biker." He may not be a "poseur" but he's not a true "biker." At the AMA museum some time ago, I saw this kind of person referred to as a "lifestyle biker" and I thought that was a fairly good term for it. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 15:27:45 1999 From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:19:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Chris, As with all things in life, you meet a jerk in every crowd ... I would say to give it another chance, as I have had positive experiences in all aspects of motorcycling, including Harley's and Rolling Thunder. Unfortunately I have also met people similar to what you describe that rode HD, BMW *and* Honda. I've also met people biased against sportbikes or goldwings. Please try not to let one a** ruin your opinion of thousands of more easy-going dedicated riders. Later, chris From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Date: 06/02/99 06:05:29 PM GMT Subject: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder --snip-- I thought going to this event would be fun and I could see some interesting bikes and meet some people. I left the Mall before the bikes rode through, however, feeling very unwelcome. I wouldn't have been suprised if most of the other riders in the crowd felt similarly to this punk. I won't be attending any mostly-Harley events in the future if this is the quality of person found there. Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 15:46:30 1999 From: "Coleman, Perry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:42:47 -0700 Chris, "Lifestyle biker," huh? Hmmm...I thought I was a lifestyle biker. I mean, if I didn't have to work, I'd spend my entire life riding my bike. Riding bikes, reading about bikes, talking about bikes, looking at bikes, tweaking bikes, sitting on bikes, well - you get the idea - that's my idea of a the "biker lifestyle." Or, am I missing something? Perry > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 3:23 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder > > At 03:06 PM 6/2/99 , Coleman, Perry wrote: > > Anyway, he > >"trades" in his Low Rider to GET ON A WAITING LIST for the Road King. > That's > >right, he'd rather ride nothing for the next year or three while he's > >waiting for this "dream" bike. I think the look on my face completely > >flabbergasted him as the topic shifted away from bikes thereafter... ... > > > >As much as I like and respect this guy, I don't see how he could EVER be > >considered a "biker." He may not be a "poseur" but he's not a true > "biker." > > > At the AMA museum some time ago, I saw this kind of person referred to as > a > "lifestyle biker" and I thought that was a fairly good term for it. > > > Chris Norloff > Falls Church, Virginia > 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 15:46:50 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:47:09 -0400 From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, christopher.meier@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder Chris Meier wrote: > I've also met people biased against sportbikes or > goldwings. I admit that I'm biased against chain-driven bikes, does that make me an evil person? :) Dale (if it ain't a shaftie it ain't sh*t???) :) -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 15:52:12 1999 From: Bluice101@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:51:29 EDT Subject: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I myself have met a Harley Dude and Dudets with major attitudes. And I have only one reply that fits. what did the farmer say when the mule kicked him? consider the source! D. Walker 98 Royal Star Bluice101@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 15:53:09 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:53:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Morris Berman To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder On my Western Adventure, coming out of Yellowstone and into Grand Teton, I had pulled offf the road for a butt and photo break. A guy on a sportster pulls up and stops next to me. He's dressed in Harley biker garb. He looks somewhat unsavory. He pulls out a cigarette and walks over to me and we have a very nice 15-20 minutes converstaion about biking through the nat'l parks. There's all kinds of folks out there on all kinds of bikes. Don't judge them all buy one poor representation. -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > Chris, > > As with all things in life, you meet a jerk in every crowd ... > > I would say to give it another chance, as I have had positive experiences > in all aspects of motorcycling, including Harley's and Rolling Thunder. > Unfortunately I have also met people similar to what you describe that rode > HD, BMW *and* Honda. I've also met people biased against sportbikes or > goldwings. Please try not to let one a** ruin your opinion of thousands of > more easy-going dedicated riders. > > Later, > chris > > > From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX > Date: 06/02/99 06:05:29 PM GMT > Subject: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder > > > > > --snip-- > I thought going to this event would be fun and I could see some interesting > bikes and meet some people. I left the Mall before the bikes rode through, > however, feeling very unwelcome. I wouldn't have been suprised if most of > the other riders in the crowd felt similarly to this punk. I won't be > attending any mostly-Harley events in the future if this is the quality of > person found there. > > Chris Weaver > 98 VTR 1000 > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:01:16 1999 From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:57:18 -0400 Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder To: Horkster Cc: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Yeah, and I'm biased against 1986 technology! :-) Take that! --chris To: Christopher A. Weaver/P I/Arlington VA/C&L/US@C&L US, Christopher Meier/P I/Arlington VA/C&L/US@C&L US cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Horkster Date: 06/02/99 07:47:09 PM GMT Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder Chris Meier wrote: > I've also met people biased against sportbikes or > goldwings. I admit that I'm biased against chain-driven bikes, does that make me an evil person? :) Dale (if it ain't a shaftie it ain't sh*t???) :) -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:05:05 1999 From: "Jordan, Michael" To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:02:41 -0700 >When I mentioned to him that I rode down on the Honda VTR >sitting in front of us, he snorted and told me I "should get a >REAL bike." > >He then went on to say that when he decided to buy a bike he >was either going to buy a Harley or no bike at all and that >only "chumps" ride bikes like mine. I have an ace in the hole at Rolling Thunder - I just mention that I was in 'Nam from '65 - '66 and ask when he/she was there. They tend to quiet right down ;-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:05:57 1999 X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:57:34 -0400 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX At 03:47 PM 6/2/99 , Horkster wrote: >I admit that I'm biased against chain-driven bikes, >does that make me an evil person? :) > >Dale (if it ain't a shaftie it ain't sh*t???) :) So if it IS a shaftie it IS sh*t? ha ha ha! gotcha! owner of one shaftie and two chain-bikes, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:05:59 1999 X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 16:05:38 -0400 To: "Coleman, Perry" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder At 03:42 PM 6/2/99 , Coleman, Perry wrote: >"Lifestyle biker," huh? > >Hmmm...I thought I was a lifestyle biker. I mean, if I didn't have to work, >I'd spend my entire life riding my bike. Riding bikes, reading about bikes, >talking about bikes, looking at bikes, tweaking bikes, sitting on bikes, >well - you get the idea - that's my idea of a the "biker lifestyle." Or, am >I missing something? >Perry Perry, Perry, Perry, A lifestyle biker wears multiple items of clothing with either the bike brand on them, or with some hostile statement. Like on the back of a t-shirt, "If you can read this then the bitch fell off." Preferably the clothes make opposite statements to what can be observed - such as the "I ain't no fair-weather biker" shirt I observed on a fellow getting out of a car one cold day. A lifestyle biker talks incessantly about riding and about bikes, particularly why he didn't ride that day, again. A lifestyle biker is especially critical of people who actually ride. A lifestyle biker shows his independence by dressing just like all the other bikers who are showing their independence. Maybe a "lifestyle biker" is like a tourist, and a real biker is like a traveller. "Lifestyle", in 90's-speak, sounds like something you don and doff as instructed by fashion writers. We need a better term for someone who actually rides. :-) Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:08:36 1999 From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:05:37 EDT Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Chris, Bummer about running into such a jerk. I once wanted a Harley, but couldn't afford one when I got my first bike (a Honda). I got the attitude from a guy just as you did and turned sour as well. It is a waste of time to argue with them. BUT, I have found that if you ride with a group, they tend to leave you alone. Last year I rode in RT with my old Nighthawk and felt very welcome to be there. In fact, I was asked to join a group riding down to the Pentagon by a guy on a Harley. This year, I rode with a group from the Shadowriders list. We didn't hear anything negative at all, and in fact had some very nice conversations while we waited in the Pentagon parking lot. I once thought that most Harley riders had bad attitudes towards other makes, but I've found that to be the exception to the rule. It seems to be the RUBs and non-riders that have the worst attitudes. BTW, I've also encountered similar attitudes from BMW riders, and I'm sure it doesn't stop there. I think if you had joined in the ride you would have found a very very different attitude among the riders. Just my $.01 Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:09:30 1999 From: "George Howell" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: first aid kits Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:04:06 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Angie picked up some first aid kits at http://www.drugstore.com for 1 cent each. Three kits, plus S&H added up to $2.98. Unfortunately, they don't pack a whole lot. A fair size of self adhesive bandages, a little bit of gauze, some Neosporin type ointment, benzylkonium chloride, and alcohol pads. Also some OTC cold medicine, Bayer, and some ibuprofen. About 10 tablets of each. Other than more gauze pads of different sizes, what should I pick up to augment the kit? Finger splints? (or at least some large tongue depressors). BTW, for the price, the case is kinda nice. About 10" x 5" x 2" nylon. Seems waterproof (or at least water resistant). For a penny, that's not too bad. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:19:29 1999 From: "George Howell" To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" , Subject: RE: dc-cycles ftp server question? Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:04:09 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Email the pic to me. I can post it on my website, and put it on DC Cycles-Yahoo as a link as opposed to a picture itself (for that matter, I'm going to remove a few pics and do the same). I've got a 10 meg limit, so that should take at least a few jpeg's. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:19:30 1999 From: "George Howell" To: Cc: "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:04:08 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Angie and I are thinking about it. She's wanted to go on some sort of poker run since last year. And since is supports Special Olympics... ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > > Thomas & I are considering going on this...anyone else thinking of going? > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:19:32 1999 From: "George Howell" To: "Grant Heffernan" , "Hugh A. Caldwell" , Subject: RE: dc-cycles ftp server question? Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:04:11 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 On some systems, step four might be "rmdir test" instead of "rm test". ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > 3)mkdir test > - the directory should get created > - type ls and see if it's there > 4)rm test > - this will get rid of the test directory > 5)mkdir "your directory" > 6)cd "your directory" From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:19:34 1999 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:11:53 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sure, I've met some folks like this, but most HD riders I've run across have been friendly people, and fairly laid back. I must say I've met as many rude people on sportbikes (mostly of the inline four variety). Always in a hurry to get somewhere. There mind always on the future, always looking towards the horizon. Never thinking about where they are; what they are doing. A jedi craves not... Sorry. Watched TESB last night:) But seriously, I've ridden a Wing, and felt out of place in Marysville because it wasn't a sparkling GL1500. What's the point? There are pricks all over the place. There are also lots of decent folks. The same sort of stereotyping that some of us do (i.e., stinking, leaking, rubbie HD riding poseur) is just as damaging to the cruiser/sport/touring relationship as is their opinion (i.e., stupid rice-rocket, made in Japan, Power Ranger outfit, butt above your head riding position, racer-rep wannabe). Just chalk it up to the fact that you met an asshole who happens to claim to own a few Harleys. FWIW, if he didn't have subway fare, I doubt he had three HD's. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:20:04 1999 From: "George Howell" To: "Chris Norloff" , Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:14:44 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > There's lots of snobs in the world, and you just met one of them. There > are a bunch of them in the Harley world (who else regularly puts window > stickers and bumperstickers on their cages to advertise what they're NOT > riding?). I'm sure you've had this happen... My favorite thing is when one of these stickers is on an import car (or an import truck, especially those built by Ford, made by Mazda trucks:). When you get the opportunity to ask one of these folks "Why Harley?" the answer is inevitably "buy American." Yes, many of those cars and trucks are made in America. But so are Kawasaki's and Honda's. (Any Yam's or Suzuki's made in the States?) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:27:46 1999 From: "George Howell" To: , "Horkster" Cc: , Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:22:24 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > Yeah, and I'm biased against 1986 technology! :-) Can't blame you: no ABS, no fuel injection, no seat warmers, no handgrips, no CD players... Definitely like riding in the dark ages. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:32:03 1999 X-Sender: dreamer@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 16:29:26 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Dawn G.T. Gibson" Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder At 02:05 PM 6/2/99 -0400, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: >I won't be attending any mostly-Harley events in the future if this is the quality of >person found there. Christopher, Without any intention of defending the Harley Jerk you met at RT, don't judge the other quarter of a million bikers by this one. I rode in Rolling Thunder for the first time on Sunday and my experience couldn't have been more different from yours. On the way to staging at the Pentagon, one of the ladies I was riding with had a radiator explode on her Japanese cruiser. It half melted and expelled the radiator plug 10 foot. The folks who immediately ran to assist were Harley riders. All around us once we were staged were Harley riders, laughing and joking around and including everyone in their party. At the very end of the Rolling Thunder ride several of us were completely baked and in the beginning stages of heat exhaustion. We pulled over and stumbled over to the shade of a tree where a Harley rider immediately found us some water and even checked back later to see if we were ok. There are always jerks out there, but they're the exception and they ride all sorts of bikes, just like the folks who aren't jerks. Give it a try next year! Dawn Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX '96 Virago 1100 Special, KnowMad From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:37:28 1999 From: "Carver, John M, BGM" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Kirk Roy and/or Sean Sullivan Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:36:07 -0400 If either of you are interested in some FREE *used* D204s, contact me off list for more details. John 98VFR From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:44:38 1999 From: jnewman@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:37:24 -0400 Subject: I 95 Traffic Alert Office of Public Affairs - June 2, 1999 >From the Fairfax County Page at : http://www.co.fairfax.va.us/emergency.htm 3:15 p.m. Traffic Alert Due to an accident at I-95, 395 and the Beltway, parts of the Beltway are closed between South Van Dorn and Braddock Road and parts of I-95 and 395 are closed in the area where they intersect with the Beltway. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:58:57 1999 X-Originating-IP: [166.96.254.3] From: "manish gupta" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Hello Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 16:58:22 EDT Just got back from longest ride (for me), went to Quebeck Canada, riding over 1300 miles. I've a sore wrist and butt, but so what I am more than satisfied with my bike and the trip. One question I have for all of you is (I think somebody might be able to help), in my apartment complex they have assigned motorcycle parking, but some cars always occupy these spots, forcing me to park somewhere else (Occupying space for a car in a lot). I requested management of complex but they showed there helplessness. I am outraged because couple of days ago when I went in the morning to drive I saw my bike down in the lot, when I examined closely somebody hit it from back in night (may be thinking that nothing is parked there or may be drunk) with his/her cage. Any suggestion would be appreciated. Regards Manish Gupta 1998 Suzuki Savage 650. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 16:59:43 1999 From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:58:32 EDT Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 6/2/99 4:33:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ghowell@XXXXXX writes: << Yeah, and I'm biased against 1986 technology! :-) >> Gee, does that mean you like everything before and after 1986? ;p Robert "the instigator" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 17:03:15 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:02:57 -0400 From: Dave Meyer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ Recap > Unfortunately we did have two mishaps, one in the fast group, and > for the first time, one in the group I was leading. Both riders were > able to ride their bikes home, thankfully. I'll let those guys tell their > stories, if they want to. My crash was pretty exciting. I went into a fairly tight curve too fast; braked hard and stood it up; went into front wheel skid; controlled it; ran out of pavement; lowside into ditch by side of road. All things considered, damage is amazingly slight. I have a sprained shoulder and thumb, but that's it (I would've been at the BBQ, but my shoulder was stiffening and I didn't want it to get so bad I couldn't ride home). The bike isn't much worse off: front left fairing plastic is cracked but probably repairable, shift lever is bent, speedo casing is broken, the turn signals are munged a bit but still functional, and there's some miscellaneous scratches and whatnot. I was very lucky. I'd like to thank the folks who stopped and hauled my bike out of the ditch and made sure I was OK. I hate to think where I would have been without you. Dave -- David M. Meyer meyer@XXXXXX 1997 Bandit 1200 From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 17:15:11 1999 From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:14:11 EDT Subject: Re: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ Recap To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I could be wrong but it seems to me that I remember several other dc-cycles rides involving crashes (usually minor) ... what's up with that? Be careful please! Marcy In a message dated 6/2/99 5:09:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dmeyer@XXXXXX writes: << My crash was pretty exciting. >> From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 17:18:17 1999 From: Mark Petty To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Four thoughts from a rookie Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:11:49 -0400 One perfect corner will keep you happy all day. A little counter-steering will go a long way. Keep your boots tucked in, it's better to scrape pegs than to lose shoe leather. Ear plugs make a hell of a difference. -Mark '83 V65 Magna From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 18:23:51 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:23:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder Well, I have an interesting view on the whole thing... I own both a Harley, and an import sportbike. There are now actually 3 major types of Harley riders: 1) Old school "If it ain't HD it ain't worth riding" types. At this point they *must* be blocking the fact that HD uses Japanese parts out of their mind to avoid having a complete mental colapse. These have an excuse for not waving... it's called ignorance. 2) RUBs, wanabes. They bought the Harley because that's a cool thing to own. They might even ride it evey once in a while to go to the local "hangout" where you park it and talk about Harleys. Actually putting miles on the thing is out of the question (Where would I ride to?). Reason for not waving? Terrified to remove one hand from the bars :) Followed by a misguided superiority complex. They THink that being a type1 is cool, and therefore never become a type3. 3) Normal riders who just happen to own a Harley for whatever reason. For me, it's nostolgia... I grew up around and on them, and love 'em. For others, it's just thier choice of bikes. For the most part, I don't run into too many Type1 HD owners anymore... the guys my Dad used to hang out with when I was a kid would definatly fit into that catagory. Type2 folks are avoided by everyone except other type2's... it's kinda sad. When I do run into them I make it a point to invite them on group rides (Which they can never make for some reason) and to mention I also own a sportbike (Which usually causes them to ask "Why do you have *2* bikes??") Type3's are great people. I met a lot of them last sunday, and had a great time. There were definatly a ton of type1s, and quite a few type2s (One of which dropped his brand new, custom pained FatBoy while trying to park. This was before the start of the ride ::shaking head:: Oh.. and BTW... Harley sells actual Levi jeans for $35 at my dealer... they're $50 at the mall. Call me crazy, I picked up a couple pair, Motor Company emblem and all :) - Bri From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 18:55:59 1999 From: Boiade@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:53:13 EDT Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 6/2/99 2:20:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX writes: << I won't be attending any mostly-Harley events in the future if this is the quality of person found there. >> I think when someone asked about that particular ride I cautioned that it wouldn't be like a DC Cycles ride and that one should go with a US flag attached to the back of the bike. While some Harley riders are motorcyclists and friendly to other motorcyclists (one I know also owns a yellow Ducati :-), a great majority are idiots, can't ride a motorcycle and buy the things to be part of a group. On the other hand in the most recent issue of one of the national mags, it was pointed out that Harley's and cruisers are becoming the learner bikes of today (like dirt bikes were years ago) and that once some cruiser/harley riders ride a motorcycle designed for function rather than style, they buy them and learn to ride. So the point of the article was not to be to hard on the younger cruiser rider as he could very well learn to ride (badly unfortunately as a cruiser is setup all wrong for a sporting ride) on a cruiser and then buy a sport/sport tourer/generic bike once he understands the difference between a bike designed to be stylish and a bike designed to perform. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 19:07:38 1999 From: Boiade@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:05:49 EDT Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder To: ghowell@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 6/2/99 4:27:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ghowell@XXXXXX writes: << I must say I've met as many rude people on sportbikes (mostly of the inline four variety). Always in a hurry to get somewhere >> You know, most of the young kids I meet on sportbikes are actually quite the gentlemen. They generally ask questions, are willing to accept advice and are friendly. I guess the fact that I ride a 98-ZX-9R helps break the ice, but they are the same and even more curious when they meet me on my Norton. The last Harley group I crossed paths with removed a spark plug cap from my Norton and thought it was real funny when it only ran on one cylinder. I guess they were offended that it sounded better and was louder than their bikes (not to mention nearly 30 years old and faster) when I parked in Annapolis to go buy an ice-cream cone. And yes they were very drunk. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 19:50:07 1999 From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:48:50 EDT Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX "The last Harley group I crossed paths with.... And yes they were very drunk." There are excpetions to every rule. Pointing fingers and making stereotypes only makes matters worse. We tend to remember the bad things, and forget the good. Just my $.01. Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 20:26:08 1999 X-Originating-IP: [38.30.111.145] From: vfr 800 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Febreze . . .FYI Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 17:25:57 PDT Hey all, I've been so busy at work that I actually, (gasp), haven't had time to post to the list from work very much. Anywho, I just wanted to let anyone who happens to be interested know, that Febreze, (the new-get-rid-o-smells product), does a pretty good job on stinky helmets. Although the ads seem to imply that it "removes" odors vs. covering them up, the max strength that I used leaves a light smell behind. It's not bad to me, but others may not like it. Just my $.02. John 98VFR _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 21:41:21 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 21:47:35 -0700 From: "John C. Kozyn" To: dc-cycles Subject: HDs & RT Hey DC Guys & Gals, Just finished reading today's posts on RT and HD and actually read them all (D-mode here folks). Well, the "recency effect" seems to be operative for me, so I remember Brian Roach's post more than the others (Kids, Don't Smoke! ;). Nice typology Brian, I have to agree with you. (Nice Duc you have too - I saw it shiny side up a few days ago :) But one notion that seemed to be under the surface of many of the posts is that attitude is most important. Sure, you will meet an a**hole from time to time but if you treat people nicely they'll treat you nicely. (This differs of course if you're a woman and your radiator blows and there's guys around who love nothing more than an opportunity to be chivalrous ;) That was a guy-thing Dawn and not an HD-thang :) I noticed that on a ride I did last Sunday throughout VA/WVA I had to stop waving at all these HD riders - who waved first - 'cuz I needed to keep my hands on my bars (!) People are people and everyone likes to be liked. YMMV. JK From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 21:54:15 1999 From: Gawthrop@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:52:08 EDT Subject: Disregard the Jerks... To: roach@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX It's not what you ride... It's .. that .. you ride... Remember, better a brother on a (Honda/BMW/Ducati/Kawasaki/Schwinn) than a Jerk on a Harley. Bill Gawthrop, ABATE of Maryland From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 22:15:13 1999 From: Gawthrop@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:44:42 EDT Subject: Re: Febreze . . .FYI To: vfr800@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Let's see if I have this right.....someone want's to get rid of the smell of helmets???? From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 22:31:26 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:33:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Hello To: manish gupta Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Get nasty with the management... they would if *YOU* were doing something wrong. If there is parking provisions in your lease, have that in hand when you talk to them. Remind them that they can issue warnings to the offenders, then have the offenders towed at their expense (or at least that's what leases usually have in them... As for the bike being damaged in the parking lot, turn it in to your insurance company and make sure they are fully aware of your parking situation... I'm sure they might consider going after the management for repair costs rather than coming out of their pocket.. that would also get the managements attention... You could always try some polite notes on the cages windows, but then you have to worry about idiots backlashing on you... Or better yet, see if the cops will ticket them for improperly parking... Good luck Collin --- manish gupta wrote: > One question I have for all of you is (I think somebody might be able > to > help), in my apartment complex they have assigned motorcycle parking, > but > some cars always occupy these spots, forcing me to park somewhere > else > (Occupying space for a car in a lot). I requested management of > complex but > they showed there helplessness. > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 22:38:37 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:40:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ Recap To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Well, when you have a very large group (175+ on dc-cycles) who are all in pretty constant communication, you hear about the oopses more often. And sometimes.. S*&t happens :( It is unfortunate, but that's the way it is... occasionally the oopses are from a rider getting a little overhis/her head, more often than not, what I've seen happen on DC-Cycles rides is falling over in parking lots, falling over at 180 degree 2mph hairpins, etc. The crashes at speed are much fewer and far between... But you're right... be careful out there... Collin --- JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > I could be wrong but it seems to me that I remember several other > dc-cycles > rides involving crashes (usually minor) ... what's up with that? Be > careful > please! === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 2 23:01:34 1999 From: Gawthrop@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:51:29 EDT Subject: Parking Lot Issues To: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Check with the local zoning and police agency. Some parking lots are actually county (city) jurisdiction (for example, riding without a helmet in a parking lot will get you a ticket...so why not a (parking) ticket?). If it's within their jusridiction, call the cops. If not, (please disregard the following advice...) trot your litt'le self to the auto shop, buy an air valve cap that has one of those little slots in the top to tighten or loosen the valve stem valve on a car tire and...... On the other hand, find out who the owner is, have a biker party and drop in on the owner. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 00:18:16 1999 From: "George Howell" To: "Collin T. Fagan" , "manish gupta" Cc: Subject: RE: Hello Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 00:13:00 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > Get nasty with the management... they would if *YOU* were doing > something wrong. If there is parking provisions in your lease, have > that in hand when you talk to them. Remind them that they can issue > warnings to the offenders, then have the offenders towed at their > expense (or at least that's what leases usually have in them... Better idea: write them a letter citing specific sections and clauses in the lease. Once you have sent 2-3 letters with no response, you should stop paying your rent. Eventually, they will talk to you (probably through a lawyer) and your situation will be resolved... OR, they will try to evict you. At that point, you go before a judge, who will tell them to comply with the lease. Of course, you'll have to pay back rent, so make sure you saved it. > As for the bike being damaged in the parking lot, turn it in to your > insurance company and make sure they are fully aware of your parking > situation... I'm sure they might consider going after the management > for repair costs rather than coming out of their pocket.. that would > also get the management's attention... Might make as much sense to sue the apt. complex. Especially if you photograph the situation, and have those 2-3 letters I mentioned above. > You could always try some polite notes on the cages windows, but then > you have to worry about idiots backlashing on you... Real bad idea. I only started this when I had already sent my letter indicating notice to vacate. 30 days isn't much time to retaliate. And if you are moving, and they are staying, you can always get the last 'word' in;) > Or better yet, see if the cops will ticket them for improperly > parking... I wish... > Good luck Ditto. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 00:38:08 1999 From: Ne14Smack@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 00:37:55 EDT Subject: For Sale: '82 Honda Silverwing To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX '82 Honda GL 500 Silverwing Low milage (around 8k) Good condition Forks just rebuilt at Fast Lane Fresh oil, coolant, and battery 2 tail trunks, and passenger seat Case guards $1250 Reply to Ne14smack@XXXXXX or call 703-450-1892 and ask for Thomas From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 00:46:59 1999 From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 00:46:12 EDT Subject: Re: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ Recap To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX "I could be wrong but it seems to me that I remember several other dc-cycles rides involving crashes (usually minor) ... what's up with that? Be careful please!" It's hard to place blame for my accident. I take some for travelling a bit too fast for the road conditions. BUT, I would have been fine had the car coming the opposite direction not been crowding the center. There's a certain element of danger present no matter how careful we are. Keep the shiny side up! Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 05:22:00 1999 From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC Cycles Mail List" Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 05:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:53:13 EDT, Boiade@XXXXXX wrote: ><< I won't be > attending any mostly-Harley events in the future if this is the quality of > person found there. >> > >I think when someone asked about that particular ride I cautioned that it >wouldn't be like a DC Cycles ride and that one should go with a US flag >attached to the back of the bike. Hey, I went on the last DC Cycles ride with two US Flags attached to the back of my bike. :) But then again, I am active duty army... >While some Harley riders are motorcyclists and friendly to other >motorcyclists (one I know also owns a yellow Ducati :-), a great majority are >idiots, can't ride a motorcycle and buy the things to be part of a group. On >the other hand in the most recent issue of one of the national mags, it was >pointed out that Harley's and cruisers are becoming the learner bikes of >today (like dirt bikes were years ago) and that once some cruiser/harley >riders ride a motorcycle designed for function rather than style, they buy >them and learn to ride. So the point of the article was not to be to hard on >the younger cruiser rider as he could very well learn to ride (badly >unfortunately as a cruiser is setup all wrong for a sporting ride) on a >cruiser and then buy a sport/sport tourer/generic bike once he understands >the difference between a bike designed to be stylish and a bike designed to >perform. I will fully admit that my old Suzuki GS will out handle my cruiser by a mile. But, I would hate to even have a nightmare about riding it 1,000 miles in a weekend. On the other hand, I road my cruiser on the DC Cycles run, and kept up. Even with my passenger. I like Harley's, but the only one I would own would be a Road King. It is a beautiful bike. I like my honda because it runs and is comfortable to ride two-up for long distances. I realize that it is not designed for sport riding, but the sport bikes are not designed for trips. Different Bikes - Different Purposes. And, I wave at everyone I see. Often times I won't wave on the beltway, because my full concentration is on avoiding all the idiots, and not on looking for oncoming bikes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 05:22:01 1999 From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC Cycles Mail List" Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 05:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Subject: Leesberg Police Poker Run On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:04:08 -0400, George Howell wrote: >Angie and I are thinking about it. She's wanted to go on some sort of poker >run since last year. And since is supports Special Olympics... Unfortunately, I will be working at the Maryland Special Olympics that weekend. I think that is more important, and it is a whole lot more fun.... ___________ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 07:52:26 1999 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: , Subject: Crowding the Center Line [was RE: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ Recap] Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:57:35 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 > -----Original Message----- > From: NJitzul@XXXXXX [mailto:NJitzul@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 12:46 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ Recap > > It's hard to place blame for my accident. I take some for > travelling a bit > too fast for the road conditions. BUT, I would have been fine had the car > coming the opposite direction not been crowding the center. What is it lately with cars/trucks being all over the road? The last couple of group rides I've led I've wound up riding closer to the center of the road than I usually would, trying to "force" cars to stay on their own side of the road. Or at least get them to wake up a bit. Maybe they are playing chicken? :-) BTW, this is on straight parts of the roads, not curves... I do move to the outside on curves, at least until I can see the exit! :-) Just about the same time Robert was having his "crowding" problem I was avoiding a rather large truck taking a blind turn too wide. I think it looked like more of a "near miss" than it really was, as I had plenty of room to maneuver... but it did get my adrenaline up a bit! :-) Ride safe! Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 09:14:30 1999 From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> cc: NJitzul@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:00:35 -0400 Subject: Re: Crowding the Center Line [was RE: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ Recap] Content-Disposition: inline I know! In our neighborhood I see this all the time! It's like cagers are becoming even more lazy when driving! First, the red light runners, now the "Uh, which side should I drive on" people! Another of my pet peeves is the people who lane straddle. They can't decide which lane they want to be in (when 2 or more lanes are going in the same direction), so they straddle 2 lanes so no one can pass them. WHATEVER. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> on 06/03/99 07:57:35 AM To: NJitzul@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Crowding the Center Line [was RE: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ Recap] > -----Original Message----- > From: NJitzul@XXXXXX [mailto:NJitzul@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 12:46 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ Recap > > It's hard to place blame for my accident. I take some for > travelling a bit > too fast for the road conditions. BUT, I would have been fine had the car > coming the opposite direction not been crowding the center. What is it lately with cars/trucks being all over the road? The last couple of group rides I've led I've wound up riding closer to the center of the road than I usually would, trying to "force" cars to stay on their own side of the road. Or at least get them to wake up a bit. Maybe they are playing chicken? :-) BTW, this is on straight parts of the roads, not curves... I do move to the outside on curves, at least until I can see the exit! :-) Just about the same time Robert was having his "crowding" problem I was avoiding a rather large truck taking a blind turn too wide. I think it looked like more of a "near miss" than it really was, as I had plenty of room to maneuver... but it did get my adrenaline up a bit! :-) Ride safe! Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 09:29:55 1999 From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 09:25:53 -0400 Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder To: Boiade@XXXXXX Cc: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Although I ride a "sportbike" and enjoy spirited rides, what's wrong with riding in a "cruiser style"? Motorcycling comes in many forms, a small percentage of which is scraping pegs. I ride mostly to sport tour, but occasionally wick it up. Often I commute to work, ride to the store, or ride to visit friends, or play softball ... none of which involve peg scraping. Other times, I get out to the mountains and, well, you know ... My point? Well, I guess it is possible to have a long, safe, enjoyable MC career and never touch a peg, or get rid of your "chicken strips". It's not necessarily for me, but there is nothing wrong with those who choose to ride that way, and it doesn't mean they are not safe riders. It takes all kinds ... --chris To: Christopher A. Weaver/P I/Arlington VA/C&L/US@C&L US cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Boiade@XXXXXX Date: 06/02/99 10:53:13 PM GMT Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder --snip-- So the point of the article was not to be to hard on the younger cruiser rider as he could very well learn to ride (badly unfortunately as a cruiser is setup all wrong for a sporting ride) on a cruiser and then buy a sport/sport tourer/generic bike once he understands the difference between a bike designed to be stylish and a bike designed to perform. Ciao, Fred ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 09:53:12 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 09:49:58 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Hello To: manish gupta , dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-MSMail-priority: Normal > One question I have for all of you is (I think somebody might be able to > help), in my apartment complex they have assigned motorcycle parking, but > some cars always occupy these spots, forcing me to park somewhere else > (Occupying space for a car in a lot). I requested management of > complex but > they showed there helplessness. > > I am outraged because couple of days ago when I went in the > morning to drive > I saw my bike down in the lot, when I examined closely somebody > hit it from > back in night (may be thinking that nothing is parked there or > may be drunk) > with his/her cage. > > Any suggestion would be appreciated. > > Regards > > Manish Gupta > 1998 Suzuki Savage 650. - Move. - Hammer Long nails into plywood strips and leave them around the moto-parking. - Move. Todd From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 10:08:11 1999 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Hello Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:02:35 -0700 I had something similar... got so pissed I wrote (in chain-lube) 'THIS IS NOT A MOTORCYCLE' all over the windows of the car... I did that EVERY TIME I saw the car in the MC parking... about 5 times later (2 weeks or so) it was gone. Never saw the car (or a vehicle parking in the wrong space) again... then I moved. Personally, I like removing valve-stems and taping them to the window as anger/idiot managment.. but only if my vehicle isn't present to be vandalized (meaning I'll do that when I leave a place, not when I arrive). Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 10:41:12 1999 X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 10:38:16 -0400 To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" From: Grant Heffernan Subject: RE: Hello Good idea, but only if yours isn't the only motorcycle around :) At 07:02 AM 6/3/99 -0700, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: >I had something similar... got so pissed I wrote (in chain-lube) 'THIS IS >NOT A MOTORCYCLE' all over the windows of the car... I did that EVERY TIME >I saw the car in the MC parking... about 5 times later (2 weeks or so) it >was gone. Never saw the car (or a vehicle parking in the wrong space) >again... then I moved. > >Personally, I like removing valve-stems and taping them to the window as >anger/idiot managment.. but only if my vehicle isn't present to be >vandalized (meaning I'll do that when I leave a place, not when I arrive). > >Brian ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://ussales/granth From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 11:08:37 1999 X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:08:08 -0400 To: vfr@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: RE: Punk Harley Rider At 08:34 AM 6/3/99 , you wrote: >Must be different in different places.... >I wave to every rider I see, Harley or not. >98 out of 100 Harley riders wave back to me. > >I live just outside Washington DC... > >Doug >98 VFR Doug - hope you are on the dc-cycles (www.dc-cycles.org) email list too. I live outside of DC as well. The whole Harley vs. Plastic Fantastic bikes (such as ours) fighting doesn't seem to be a big deal in our area. 2 wheels = 2 wheels. But if you are interested in seeing an example of it, I will direct you to two local Harley with attitude hangouts. Payne's Diner in Centreville, and the biker bar in Leesburg on main street. I can't remember the name of that one. I cruised by it one Sunday on my naked Nighthawk and I heard at least one person say 'goddamjapbike' as I rode past. Attitude is everywhere. I wave to everyone, screw them if they don't wanna wave back. I ride with Harleys - a neighbor and a co-worker. They are great guys. A little too wrapped up in the image and marketing of their rides, but they love all bikes. As we do. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 11:16:14 1999 X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.23] Reply-To: mrider@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman To: gixer_racer@XXXXXX, ml_gupta@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hello Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 08:12:41 PDT Another option might be to find one of those big concrete curb things. Move one of those to the road-side edge of the motorcycle parking spot instead of at the sidewalk-side edge like the cars have. It would need to be big enough that cars don't want to drive over it, yet small enough for bikes to go around. Leon. >From: "Collin T. Fagan" >To: manish gupta >CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Hello >Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:33:19 -0700 (PDT) > >Get nasty with the management... they would if *YOU* were doing >something wrong. If there is parking provisions in your lease, have >that in hand when you talk to them. Remind them that they can issue >warnings to the offenders, then have the offenders towed at their >expense (or at least that's what leases usually have in them... > >As for the bike being damaged in the parking lot, turn it in to your >insurance company and make sure they are fully aware of your parking >situation... I'm sure they might consider going after the management >for repair costs rather than coming out of their pocket.. that would >also get the managements attention... > >You could always try some polite notes on the cages windows, but then >you have to worry about idiots backlashing on you... >Or better yet, see if the cops will ticket them for improperly >parking... > >Good luck > >Collin > >--- manish gupta wrote: > > > One question I have for all of you is (I think somebody might be able > > to > > help), in my apartment complex they have assigned motorcycle parking, > > but > > some cars always occupy these spots, forcing me to park somewhere > > else > > (Occupying space for a car in a lot). I requested management of > > complex but > > they showed there helplessness. > > >=== >Collin T. Fagan >DC-Cycles Racing >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ >Proudly sponsored by: >Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) >Avon Racing Tyres >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 11:22:51 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:23:04 -0400 From: Gary Foreman Subject: What jacket to get? To: Tl1000 Cc: DC-Cycles Mailing List , "Yamahafj@XXXXXX" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 The old leather jacket has seen better days. No removable lining, and no venting. I feel like I'm going to have a stroke some days. I'm looking at maybe something other than leather. Has to be COOL (not as in looking cool). Pads preferred in crucial places. What are my choices? Has to come in BIG sizes...BBIIGG SIZES (had to repeat that). I tried some leather jackets on the other day with venting, but damn they were heavy! Prefer a shorter jacket with a Velcro waistband. Don't care too much about waterproof. Anyone purchased something recent that they really like? I have had to ride sans jacket of any kind over the last few days with the temps in the 90s (yeah...dangerous, but so is passing out in an intersection!). You can reply to me direct if you like, but I will read the lists for suggestions. Gary W. Foreman Email: fj1100@XXXXXX Web: http://www.fj1100.com `·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ A SUPERIOR Pilot may be defined as one who stays out of trouble by using his SUPERIOR judgement to avoid situations which might require the use of his SUPERIOR skills From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 11:46:31 1999 X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:46:08 -0400 To: Gary Foreman From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: What jacket to get? Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX At 11:23 AM 6/3/99 , Gary Foreman wrote: >Anyone purchased something recent that they really like? I have had to ride >sans jacket of any kind over the last few days with the temps in the 90s >(yeah...dangerous, but so is passing out in an intersection!). I love my First Gear Kenya. Not too expensive, zip out lining, great vents, waterproof, expandable waist, wind collar, etc. The only thing I don;t like right now is the color - BLACK. Really wish I had found a red one....or anything other than black. Surprisingly I stay pretty comfortable, until stopped in traffic. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 12:01:27 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:01:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Brown To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Trailers for sale? Does anyone have a bike trailer forsale? I vaguely remember seeing such posted here previously. A friend in the Boston area is looking for one for a race bike, and would be willing to come down to pick it up. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 12:55:43 1999 From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 12:46:19 -0400 Subject: Re: What jacket to get? To: Gary Foreman Cc: Tl1000 , DC-Cycles Mailing List , "Yamahafj@XXXXXX" Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I have a First Gear "Kenya" jacket that I can recommend. This is a waist-length synthetic jacket. FG also sells the "Kilimanjaro" which is the same jacket, but goes below the waist. These jackets have long vertical vents on the front, as well as vents on the arms and a long horizontal vent in the back. The jacket also features a reflective strip on the back and a reflective patch on the shoulder. Plenty of storage in the cargo pockets on the front. A velcro adjustable waistbelt controls the waist size/tightness. Removable dual-density foam "armor" is in the shoulders, elbows and back. I have size medium, but I think it comes in a variety of sizes. You can find these at Manassas Honda the last time I checked. Though not cool, the jacket has been within comfort range on even the hottest days we've had so far this year (~90 or so). It has a zip-out fleece liner which looks good on its own too. I've ridden in weather down to about 40 degrees and have been comfortable. Colder than that and you'll need to layer more or get an electric vest. I think the jacket also looks pretty good too (I've gotten compliments). It's fairly comfortable, but there are one or two drawbacks. The jacket (I'm told by other riders) balloons up quite a bit at speed if you have all of the vents open. (I don't consider this a problem per se) The velcro collar can be a bit scratchy on your neck, but it can be folded back and out of the way. If you're not wearing much underneath, the fabric under the underarms can bind a little at high speed. None of these are very serious problems really, I just mention them in the absence of any substantial drawbacks. Chris Weaver ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 12:57:17 1999 From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:56:18 EDT Subject: Re: What jacket to get? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX does it have pads? In a message dated 6/3/99 12:04:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: << Not too expensive, zip out lining, great vents, waterproof, expandable waist, wind collar, etc. >> From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 14:46:31 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:18:01 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: Turnip@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: How to become a Motorcycle Roadracer -Reply Content-Disposition: inline This is a great document, to which I'd add: 1. Maybe for the first time in your life, you'll enjoy the sensation of sheer mortal terror in your first race, especially from the start through turn one. 2. You may hear some really ugly noises from your bike as a result of the stresses involved in racing. This is nothing compared to the noises coming from your S.O. 3. This is also the most fun thing you've ever done on two wheels, and nobody but another racer truly understands. Joe (old, slow & in the way) CCS# 606 >>> "Hugh A. Caldwell" - 6/2/99 2:07 PM >>> Saw this on the KZ/GPz/ZR list and thought I would pass it along. http://www.io.com/~duke/newrrfaq.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 15:04:15 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 15:00:16 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, Bruce Norton Cc: DC Cycles X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-MSMail-priority: Normal I'm thinking about it too, if I don't end up working. T > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX > [mailto:Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 11:01 AM > To: Bruce Norton > Cc: DC Cycles > Subject: Re: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics > > > > > Thomas & I are considering going on this...anyone else thinking of going? > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > > > > "Bruce Norton" on 06/02/99 10:43:02 AM > > > To: "DC Cycles" > cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) > Subject: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics > > > > > > Third Annual Leesburg Police Motorcycle Poker Run for Virginia > Special Olympics > > Poker Run begins and ends at Leesburg Police Department > 65 Plaza Street N.E., Leesburg, Virginia > Saturday, June 5, 1999 > > REGISTRATION AND START.- > 9AM - 11AM at Leesburg Police Department > 9:30 AM - Police Escort Leaves (Ride with us!) > LAST BIKE OUT AT 11:00 A.M. LAST BIKE IN AT 3:00 P.M. > > COST: $10.00 per hand (additional hands may be purchased for $10.00) > Includes poker hand, breakfast, lunch, and 1 door prize ticket. > (Additional door prizes may be purchased for $1). > > Leesburg Restaurant will be providing a complimentary bikers breakfast. > Hog Wild Ribs will be providing a complimentary lunch of Barbecue Chicken. > > Question??? Call OFC. Bill Wolff or OFF. Mark McCartney at > Leesburg Police Dept. 703/771-4503 > > RAIN OR SHINE WE RIDE! COME SHARE THE DAY! > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 15:18:27 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 10:28:52 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder -Reply Content-Disposition: inline I'm with Chris on this one. Life's too short to let thimbledicks like this put even the smallest dent in your day. The jerk probably doesn't even have a bike. On a positive note, the following story: Ten years ago on a blue-highway tour of the midwest, somewhere outside of Nowhere, Wisconsin, I stopped at a roadhouse that had "World's Best Ribs" painted on the side of the building. No sooner had I gotten the kickstand down and my helmet off, a guy straight from the pages of Easyriders pulls up--hardass on a hardtail Shovel, tattoos, bandana head protection, the whole nine. Parked right next to me in the middle of the gravel lot where I had strategically stopped to lessen the chance of a drunken cheeser backing his pickup over my shiny, just bought Ninja. Was preparing for the inevitable "Jap Crap" speech when he shut down his straight-piped mill. Instead, he grinned larged and yelled (I'm sure his ears were shot): "Ain't it a great fokkin day fer a ride?" I had to laugh. We ate together, and I told him what I'd expected. Mouth full of burger, he says, "Hell, man. I don't give a rat's ass 'bout what yer ridin'--yer out here. That's what counts." Pretty cool, which is why I try not to judge folks based on what they ride, except for you dorky ___________ riders. Joe '85 Ninja 900, runs great '68 H-D FLH, don't run '79 RD 400F, runs bad '72 Aermacchi/H-D SX 350, runs good when it runs From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 15:40:22 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 15:38 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:RE: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympi Hope that you can make it Todd! Tom ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: RE: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics Author: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX (Todd Peer) Date: 6/3/99 3:00 PM I'm thinking about it too, if I don't end up working. T > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX > [mailto:Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 11:01 AM > To: Bruce Norton > Cc: DC Cycles > Subject: Re: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics > > > > > Thomas & I are considering going on this...anyone else thinking of going? > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > > > > "Bruce Norton" on 06/02/99 10:43:02 AM > > > To: "DC Cycles" > cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) > Subject: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics > > > > > > Third Annual Leesburg Police Motorcycle Poker Run for Virginia > Special Olympics > > Poker Run begins and ends at Leesburg Police Department > 65 Plaza Street N.E., Leesburg, Virginia > Saturday, June 5, 1999 > > REGISTRATION AND START.- > 9AM - 11AM at Leesburg Police Department > 9:30 AM - Police Escort Leaves (Ride with us!) > LAST BIKE OUT AT 11:00 A.M. LAST BIKE IN AT 3:00 P.M. > > COST: $10.00 per hand (additional hands may be purchased for $10.00) > Includes poker hand, breakfast, lunch, and 1 door prize ticket. > (Additional door prizes may be purchased for $1). > > Leesburg Restaurant will be providing a complimentary bikers breakfast. > Hog Wild Ribs will be providing a complimentary lunch of Barbecue Chicken. > > Question??? Call OFC. Bill Wolff or OFF. Mark McCartney at > Leesburg Police Dept. 703/771-4503 > > RAIN OR SHINE WE RIDE! COME SHARE THE DAY! > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 16:02:43 1999 From: "Dave Cross" To: Subject: Re: How to become a Motorcycle Roadracer -Reply Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:07:57 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 >3. This is also the most fun thing you've ever done on two wheels, and >nobody but another racer truly understands. > I agree. I liken it to trying to explain to a cager what its like to ride a motorcycle. No words can describe it. Dave From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 16:10:44 1999 From: "Coleman, Perry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder -Reply Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:06:46 -0700 Joe, That's a pretty good story! I can appreciate what you probably felt as he pulled up beside you. Many years ago, I was riding a KZ440 LTD - this was probably around '80 or '81. Anyway, I had a "catastrophic" electrical failure and pulled over to the side of the road. The road I was on was Kenilworth Avenue, in Riverdale, just north of where East-West highway crosses. Anyway, I pop up the seat and start taking a look when I see that the ground wire has come loose on the battery and is just hanging there. While I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to correct the situation with the minimal tools in the stock tool kit, I look up to see what appears to be a real "1 percenter" pulling onto the shoulder behind me. I have no idea what specific flavor the bike was, other than it was a Harley, looked chopped, had ape-hangers, saddlebags, drag pipes, etc. The guy riding it would've scared some Pagans that I know. He gets off the bike, walks over and asks if I need help. I showed him what was going on and he said no problem. He goes back to his bike, opens a saddlebag, pulls out a couple of tools, comes over, wedges the nut in place while we feed the bolt in to get it started and tightens everything down. I turn the key and shazam! everything's working. I thanked him and he said no problem. I offered to pay him and he said no - he was just helping out another biker. He tossed the tools back in the saddlebag, jumped on the bike, waved and rode off. I just kind of stood there for another minute so, shaking my head. Really changed my perception. It would have been real easy for that guy to just ride on by - I wouldn't even have criticized him if he had. I would have just chalked it up to the "jap crap" attitude and shrugged it off. But not everyone looks at a brand, or style and makes the judgement. Some start with bikes and then focus on the individuals. That's what this guy did with me - and what he made me realize that I should try and do for others. That's what we should all be doing, I think. I mean, there are probably just as many buttheads riding Honda or Kawasaki as Harley, or whatever. And there are butthead Touring riders as well as Sport bike riders. Of course, we all know that everyone who's into Sport Touring is cool! ;^) I think that most of the people on this list tend to be cool, but I'm not sure how representative we are of the vast majority of riders out there. We've had a few "questionable" individuals, but they've tended to disappear after a while. Well, I guess I've rambled on for more than long enough...back to lurk mode... Perry > -----Original Message----- > From: JOE NAGY [SMTP:NAGYJ@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 10:29 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; cnorloff@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder -Reply > > I'm with Chris on this one. Life's too short to let thimbledicks like > this put even the smallest dent in your day. The jerk probably doesn't > even have a bike. > > On a positive note, the following story: Ten years ago on a > blue-highway tour of the midwest, somewhere outside of Nowhere, > Wisconsin, I stopped at a roadhouse that had "World's Best Ribs" painted > on the side of the building. No sooner had I gotten the kickstand down > and my helmet off, a guy straight from the pages of Easyriders pulls > up--hardass on a hardtail Shovel, tattoos, bandana head protection, the > whole nine. Parked right next to me in the middle of the gravel lot > where I had strategically stopped to lessen the chance of a drunken > cheeser backing his pickup over my shiny, just bought Ninja. Was > preparing for the inevitable "Jap Crap" speech when he shut down his > straight-piped mill. Instead, he grinned larged and yelled (I'm sure > his ears were shot): "Ain't it a great fokkin day fer a ride?" I had > to laugh. We ate together, and I told him what I'd expected. Mouth > full of burger, he says, "Hell, man. I don't give a rat's ass 'bout > what yer ridin'--yer out here. That's what counts." > > Pretty cool, which is why I try not to judge folks based on what they > ride, except for you dorky ___________ riders. > > Joe > '85 Ninja 900, runs great > '68 H-D FLH, don't run > '79 RD 400F, runs bad > '72 Aermacchi/H-D SX 350, runs good when it runs > From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 16:43:55 1999 From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Coleman Perry" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:35:19 -0400 Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder -Reply Content-Disposition: inline That reminds me of the year I went to Sturgis with my Dad. Well, my Dad's one of those guys who's in management with United Airlines and owned a Harley at the time. I guess most people would consider him an RUB, but I didn't 'cause he'd been riding more years than I'd been alive, had a real bad spill when he was younger, tore up his whole leg and still rode and he used to ride his Harley every single weekend, on long ass rides... We rode from Denver to Sturgis and he kept telling me stories about the biker gangs we might run into and to be "real careful" and not to look at them, etc. If I was easily scared, I think I would've been shaking in my boots. He knew all the names of the gangs, too, LOL - Sons of Silence, etc. etc. Well, we just happened to run into a guy with a patch and rockers on, damned if I can't remember the name of the gang, but it was something "scary" sounding. After all the bad stuff I'd heard about them, I thought it would be better if I sorta stayed where I was. Well, he walked by me, and nodded, real nice like, and kept walking. I've never been one to judge much on looks, anyway, (you should've seen me in '85 with my Billy Idol haircut!! LOL) but I thought it was pretty cool. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Coleman Perry" on 06/03/99 04:06:46 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder -Reply Joe, That's a pretty good story! I can appreciate what you probably felt as he pulled up beside you. Many years ago, I was riding a KZ440 LTD - this was probably around '80 or '81. Anyway, I had a "catastrophic" electrical failure and pulled over to the side of the road. The road I was on was Kenilworth Avenue, in Riverdale, just north of where East-West highway crosses. Anyway, I pop up the seat and start taking a look when I see that the ground wire has come loose on the battery and is just hanging there. While I'm scratching my head trying to figure out how to correct the situation with the minimal tools in the stock tool kit, I look up to see what appears to be a real "1 percenter" pulling onto the shoulder behind me. I have no idea what specific flavor the bike was, other than it was a Harley, looked chopped, had ape-hangers, saddlebags, drag pipes, etc. The guy riding it would've scared some Pagans that I know. He gets off the bike, walks over and asks if I need help. I showed him what was going on and he said no problem. He goes back to his bike, opens a saddlebag, pulls out a couple of tools, comes over, wedges the nut in place while we feed the bolt in to get it started and tightens everything down. I turn the key and shazam! everything's working. I thanked him and he said no problem. I offered to pay him and he said no - he was just helping out another biker. He tossed the tools back in the saddlebag, jumped on the bike, waved and rode off. I just kind of stood there for another minute so, shaking my head. Really changed my perception. It would have been real easy for that guy to just ride on by - I wouldn't even have criticized him if he had. I would have just chalked it up to the "jap crap" attitude and shrugged it off. But not everyone looks at a brand, or style and makes the judgement. Some start with bikes and then focus on the individuals. That's what this guy did with me - and what he made me realize that I should try and do for others. That's what we should all be doing, I think. I mean, there are probably just as many buttheads riding Honda or Kawasaki as Harley, or whatever. And there are butthead Touring riders as well as Sport bike riders. Of course, we all know that everyone who's into Sport Touring is cool! ;^) I think that most of the people on this list tend to be cool, but I'm not sure how representative we are of the vast majority of riders out there. We've had a few "questionable" individuals, but they've tended to disappear after a while. Well, I guess I've rambled on for more than long enough...back to lurk mode... Perry From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 16:49:35 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 14:46 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Interesting bike seen today... any ideas? Today while walking down Wisconsin Ave. for lunch I saw a Honda sportbike going north bound towards Friendship Heights. It was white with a little bit of red and "kinda" reminded me of an '80's VFR but I know that it wasn't. I could see it from the back, it had dual exhaust, it had twin round tail lights (kinda RC30'ish?), seemed to have a solo tail, and sounded like a VF something or another BUT was not a VFR (VFR's have 180 deg cranks that give the motor its distinctive rumble... 360 deg cranks sound like everything else). Any ideas on who might own this bike or what it may have been? Twas cool I tell you! Tom '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 17:00:06 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:48:53 -0400 From: Art Crow To: dc-cycles Subject: used luggage 4 sale One of my customers has the following for sale: Yamaha Soft Pack Luggage, side bags, rear bag and duffel bag. Set is like new. Orig cost: ~$250 asking $125 RESPOND TO HIM DIRECTLY AT: Mark Evitts email: et boyee@XXXXXX or phone 703-263-7990 -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 17:21:07 1999 From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:12:38 -0400 Subject: Why Content-Disposition: inline does every male that sees me with a helmet ask, "How many cc's is it?" Do guys get this question? LOL - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 17:50:22 1999 From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Tour Master Deluxe Tour Bag Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:45:58 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I am looking for a tail,luggage rack bag, thats less expensive than the = HD that at 23"x13x11 is the right size, but waaaaay overpriced, they = actually want $200.000 for a dammm nylon bag...ugh..... I have an = advert for the Tour Master Deluxe Tail bag, but cant find a local = dealer. Anybody seen any of these around or have any other suggestions. = I just want an old fashioned duffel that I can either drop over the = sissy-bar or with built in bungees. I have a T-Bag, but its more than I = need for work stuff. =20 On another note, Weather looks great for the Leesburg PD Special = Olympics run, hope to see some of you. I'll still be riding = http://pweb.netcom.com/~shephar1/kensharley1.gif =20 Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 18:45:07 1999 From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 18:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Subject: Re: Why On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:12:38 -0400, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: >does every male that sees me with a helmet ask, "How many cc's is it?" >Do guys get this question? >LOL I too will admit that I suffer from a little gender bias. To me I have always thought of a Sportster as a "chick bike" (all I have ever been interested in was cruisers). Not that I look down upon a lady riding a sportster, more that I looked down upon a guy riding one. I have a good friend at work who rides one, and the size of the bike fits him, and he takes a lot of pride in his ride. In fact, he got the trophy for the best custom sportster at our ABATE bike show here a couple weeks ago. More and more women are breaking free of the stereotypes we men place on them. I see ladies riding bikes that a few years ago would have been a man's only bike. Another stereotype that I think is going away is the thought that women on motorcycles are either "easy" or are "dykes." I have observed in the past that women bikers are thought to have different morals. If they do not "put out" they are dykes. This was how women were portrayed in the movies (C.C. & Company and others). Women riding bikes has become mainstream and I am happy to see more and more women riders. Let's face it, I am tired of riding only with the guys. I am trying to get my wife on a bike. She does not have the "aggressive attitude" that I have so I don't know how she will do on the bike, but I would like her to learn. That's the main reason I am hanging on to the old bike. I do need to cut down the seat to make the bike "shorter." She can touch the ground on tippy toes, but not flat footed. I cannot see buying a new bike for her just for her to learn how to ride. What I would like is for her to learn, then give her my ACE, and then buy that new Drifter. I have always loved the Indians...... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 18:45:55 1999 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:43:54 EDT Subject: Re: Why To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 6/3/1999 5:25:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX writes: << does every male that sees me with a helmet ask, "How many cc's is it?" Do guys get this question? LOL >> Actually, yes. I get it quite often. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 18:54:27 1999 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA07136 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl42.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.184]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 3266500 ; Thu, 03 Jun 1999 18:52:30 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 19:00:12 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <85256784.00640A35.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder Message-Id: <199906032252.3266500@zzapp.org> On Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:05:29 -0400, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: >I thought I'd relate a conversation I had with a Harley "enthusiast" at the >Rolling Thunder procession on Sunday. We had the opposite experience. Waiting in the pentagon parking lot, we were parked by a group of riders, all wearing colors. They all rode Harley's, most with ape hangers. You should have seen them all oogle the BMW a friend of mine rode in on. One of the most tattooed said that he would buy one if he had the money and what a fine machine it was. The bike that got the most attention in my general area was an old Suzuki, that had obviously been used for racing. Compared to that, there were the "Rockville Yuppies" that I always see at the Rockville HD events. They always wear HD clothing, they have heavily customized bikes, and are the typical riders that HD went to the LCD odometers (so you can't see how little they ride). They are the ones that I felt turned their noses up at mine and the other bikes because they were not HD's. The real bikers that I have met don't care what you ride. I love riding my old GS400 to the ABATE meetings because I get all these old bikers out looking at my bike and reminiscing about the bikes they used to ride. Real bikers are also real people. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 19:01:08 1999 Return-Path: jmoran@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07316 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from loudoun.com (leesburg-139.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with ESMTP id <0FCR003EZX75O4@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 19:09:38 -0400 From: Randy and Julie Moran Subject: Re: Why To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-to: jmoran@XXXXXX Message-id: <37570B17.852821AF@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <85256785.007572A5.00@172.16.2.37> A lot of people tend to ask that question, more when I'm on the bandit 400 then at other times. I imagine that your suspicion that it has something to do with gender is largely correct though. : ) Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > does every male that sees me with a helmet ask, "How many cc's is it?" > Do guys get this question? > LOL > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 19:36:32 1999 Return-Path: dreamer@XXXXXX Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08043 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:36:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brat.knowhere.net (p13.a7.du.radix.net [207.192.132.13]) by mail1.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA19785 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906032336.TAA19785@mail1.radix.net> X-Sender: dreamer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 19:34:05 -0400 To: DC Cycles From: "Dawn G.T. Gibson" Subject: Sunday? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anyone planning a ride on Sunday? Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX '96 Virago 1100 Special, KnowMad From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 19:43:36 1999 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08135 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (a0184.chantilly.mns.net [206.239.104.216]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA19286 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37573ECF.78B7@mnsinc.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 19:49:52 -0700 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: re: Febreze . . .FYI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John wrote: Anywho, I just wanted to let anyone who happens to be interested know, that Febreze, (the new-get-rid-o-smells product), does a pretty good job on stinky helmets. Although the ads seem to imply that it "removes" odors vs. covering them up, the max strength that I used leaves a light smell behind. It's not bad to me, but others may not like it. My wife suggested this stuff to me two nights ago. I'm glad I didn't - reading what you said John. I used a small squirt of Palmolive dishwashing liquid on a damp (clean) sponge - not the one you just finished washing the frying pan with ;) Helmet smells OK now. And it's clean. JK From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 19:53:57 1999 Return-Path: jbroga@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08307 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (sterling-125.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FCR0041QZPCE4@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 19:45:40 -0700 From: jambroga Subject: Re: Why To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <006c01beae34$55a59540$252fbccc@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 X-Priority: 3 I get that question and all sorts of other stupid ones. "Is that a ducati?" ( my bike is red) "Does it go 190?" "My uncle had a bike once and he crashed and now i won't touch em" (or some variation thereof) . . .. Jonathan ----- Original Message ----- From: Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 2:12 PM Subject: Why > > >does every male that sees me with a helmet ask, "How many cc's is it?" >Do guys get this question? >LOL > >- Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 19:55:40 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08349 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:55:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-199-44.s298.tnt4.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.199.44]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id TAA29548 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:55:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 99 19:43:42 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: daily replies To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Couple things in no real order: 1: Gonna try and make the poker run, I'd head from mclean ->leesburg and aim to be there at 9:00ish. THing that's time enough to get registered before teh 9:30 escort ride? 2: While I'm not the person who's been riding the longest, by any means, I have had the experience of daytona and some other traditionally harley only things, while being on my VFR. General consensus was always positive, with the emphasis on 'Wow, you rode here? from Cleveland? Shit." Yeah, there are a few guys that are trouble(generally NOT the 1%'s, in my experience-they aren't a prob unless you start throwing attitude at them), but usually the RUB's. The 1%'s I've met have been of the 'You Ride, or you don't" mentality. I'm sure I'll meet exceptions eventually, but I'd just remind everyone that there's a Squid for every harley rider that's an asshole-and they irritate me more than the harley buy an image types.(Course, my bike is getting further Squidded-chopped the fender today, and I'm pulling the license plate light too. Goes with the plate. Might pull the baffle fropm the pipe too, but doubt it. Gonna play with baffle #'s.) 3: Tom(i think, asking about unknown honda) Could have been an RC45, they have the 360 degree crank, and are well known for teh dual pipe(stacked, like shotgun). Could have also been an 800 with a CBR900 rear, I'm told this is doable. Hard to say without a better description. Greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/3/99 HSTA/AMA 7:43:42 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 20:53:03 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09324 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:53:01 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (2718) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2CCAa16040 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1bf80a05.24887d30@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:52:00 EDT Subject: Re: Why To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 I frequently get asked "is that a Harley?" and "what year is that?" Usually, they're suprised when I give them the answer. The best was when a gas station attendant said over the intercom "Nice Harley." Aaaaaaagh!!! ;) Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 3 22:00:31 1999 Return-Path: ursulina@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA10473 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 22:00:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursulina (207-172-122-8.s262.tnt14.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.122.8]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id WAA22272 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 22:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007701beae47$61c40560$087aaccf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: Subject: Re: Why Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 22:02:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 I get asked the same thing, "Is it a Harley?" Or sometimes, "That ain't a bike, that's a scooter." W h a t e v e r ! ;-P - - Ursulina 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD -----Original Message----- From: NJitzul@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thursday, June 03, 1999 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Why >I frequently get asked "is that a Harley?" and "what year is that?" Usually, >they're suprised when I give them the answer. The best was when a gas station >attendant said over the intercom "Nice Harley." Aaaaaaagh!!! ;) > >Robert VanSlyke >83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 06:41:26 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA20731 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA24728 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:41:22 -0400 (EDT) From: ewhinger1@XXXXXX Received: from m20.boston.juno.com (m20.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.190]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA01930 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:41:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ewhinger1@XXXXXX) by m20.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EB9WUS9E; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 06:41:01 EDT To: vfr800@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:28:50 EDT Subject: Re: Febreze . . .FYI Message-ID: <19990604.064005.240.0.ewhinger1@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1,3,5,7-13 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Don't know if this info is 100% correct, but it seems to be worth mentioning. A friend of mine used Febreeze on his dog's bedding and a few days later the dog became very ill. When he got the dog to the vet, the vet diagnosed the problem as toxic poisoning and said that some ingredient in Febreeze was toxic to animals. I looked at the ingredients on a bottle and there isn't much of anything listed. Emmett W. Hinger Centreville VA. COG AMA ________________________________________________________________ Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 06:49:39 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA20891 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA24781 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id GAA02037 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:49:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990604104940.5529.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.16.7] by web303.yahoomail.com; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 03:49:40 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 03:49:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Febreze . . .FYI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I thought that was an urban legend. I even remember seeing it on the "Urban Legend" page at Mining Co. It was listed along with things like snakes in the McDonalds ball pit, flashing your high beams means a new gang member has to kill you, people pricking movie goers with the AIDS Virus, etc. I can look it up and give the URL if people want (it's on my other machine...) Louis --- ewhinger1@XXXXXX wrote: > Don't know if this info is 100% correct, but it seems to be worth > mentioning. > A friend of mine used Febreeze on his dog's bedding and a few days later > the dog became very ill. > When he got the dog to the vet, the vet diagnosed the problem as toxic > poisoning and said that some > ingredient in Febreeze was toxic to animals. I looked at the ingredients > on a bottle and there isn't much of > anything listed. > > Emmett W. Hinger > Centreville VA. > COG > AMA > > ________________________________________________________________ > Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use > from Juno, the world's second largest online service. > Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 07:50:24 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA21825 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id EAA25306 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 04:48:23 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 04:48:23 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: jmoran@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Why Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 04:48:21 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > does every male that sees me with a helmet ask, "How many >cc's is it?" > Do guys get this question? > LOL Strangely enough, yes (and this with the numbers "1100" emblazoned on the sides of the scooter) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 08:03:58 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA21997 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA25418 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web302.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.184]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA02968 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990604120551.19456.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.7.100] by web302.yahoomail.com; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 05:05:51 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 05:05:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Febreze . . .FYI To: "Louis F. Caplan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You're right Louis, it is an Urban Legend... however, jsut like there's always a small percentage of humans allergic to certain "non-allergenic" stuff, I'm sure that one or two animals out of millions out there could have a bad reaction.... --- "Louis F. Caplan" wrote: > > I thought that was an urban legend. I even remember seeing it on the > "Urban > Legend" page at Mining Co. > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 08:21:27 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA22372 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA25587 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:21:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.1.236.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA03227 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:21:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Fri Jun 4 05:21:07 1999 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 05:21:07 -0700 From: "C J" <900rrmofo@XXXXXX> Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Poker Run 6-5 X-Sender-Ip: 140.188.64.152 Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those of you that are going to attend the Leesburg Police Poker Run this Saturday, A group of us are going to meet at the Leesburg Amoco (near the Loudoun County Bldg.,on King St.) at or near 8:00 a.m. to gas up, hang out, B.S., coffee, and then ride in as a group to the Police station to register, which starts at 9:00. If you are going to go on this ride, please think about meeting us, we could show up as a group. making more of an effect than rolling in 1 by 1... See ya in the A.M..... --- Craig 99 RR On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 03:49:40 Louis F. Caplan wrote: > >I thought that was an urban legend. I even remember seeing it on the "Urban >Legend" page at Mining Co. It was listed along with things like snakes in the >McDonalds ball pit, flashing your high beams means a new gang member has to >kill you, people pricking movie goers with the AIDS Virus, etc. I can look it >up and give the URL if people want (it's on my other machine...) > >Louis > >--- ewhinger1@XXXXXX wrote: >> Don't know if this info is 100% correct, but it seems to be worth >> mentioning. >> A friend of mine used Febreeze on his dog's bedding and a few days later >> the dog became very ill. >> When he got the dog to the vet, the vet diagnosed the problem as toxic >> poisoning and said that some >> ingredient in Febreeze was toxic to animals. I looked at the ingredients >> on a bottle and there isn't much of >> anything listed. >> >> Emmett W. Hinger >> Centreville VA. >> COG >> AMA >> >> ________________________________________________________________ >> Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use >> from Juno, the world's second largest online service. >> Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. >> > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 09:12:21 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23902 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:11:23 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: www.aprilia.com Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:11:20 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Damn, this is a cool ass site (with the shockwave plugin)... I think you all ought to check it out (yup, even the cruiser folk, and LD folk... and poser-riding other peoples bikes and wishing for their own.. (me)).. Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 09:13:16 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23948 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:13:11 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA12922; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:14:05 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma012719; Fri, 4 Jun 99 09:13:54 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com ([10.9.16.181]) by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FCT00G8P0U4FC@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:15:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256786.004883ED ; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 09:12:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 09:04:59 -0400 Subject: Re: Why To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256786.0048826D.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Yeah, I get this question all the time. Usually only after a short conversation has already occurred, however. When I mention it's 1000cc (996 if you're anal), they usually draw in their breath and grimace. I take it that 600s are seen by the public as pretty large, serious bikes, with 1000s being only for real wack-jobs. :^) I got a lot of this attitude when I started riding and told people I rode a 600cc bike (Seca II). Most people seemed to think that the bike was pretty powerful for a beginner. I never looked at it that way. Chris Weaver 98 VTR Jeannette wrote: does every male that sees me with a helmet ask, "How many cc's is it?" Do guys get this question? LOL ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 09:27:25 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24310 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:27:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA26178 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:27:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.114]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04340 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by wodc7mr0.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgsdp28570; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:27:17 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256786.004A1A35 ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:29:23 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "C J" <900rrmofo@XXXXXX> cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256786.004A193B.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:18:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Poker Run 6-5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Wait a minute, isn't this Craig of the infamous WXYZRQVMZFMOFO group? So, how fast will you be riding this poker run and how will you manage to grab cards flying by while scraping pegs at 100mph+? ; ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "C J" <900rrmofo@XXXXXX> on 06/04/99 08:21:07 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: Poker Run 6-5 For those of you that are going to attend the Leesburg Police Poker Run this Saturday, A group of us are going to meet at the Leesburg Amoco (near the Loudoun County Bldg.,on King St.) at or near 8:00 a.m. to gas up, hang out, B.S., coffee, and then ride in as a group to the Police station to register, which starts at 9:00. If you are going to go on this ride, please think about meeting us, we could show up as a group. making more of an effect than rolling in 1 by 1... See ya in the A.M..... --- Craig 99 RR From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 09:40:35 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24471 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:40:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:44:20 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC95C@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Why Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:36:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain I liked the guy that admired my '86 Concours. After telling me how nice it looked, he asked me if it was a 250. I told him that it was a 1000 and his jaw dropped. I don't think he realized that they made bikes that big. Then there was the gas station attendant who asked me if it was a Norton... Perry > -----Original Message----- > From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX > [SMTP:christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 9:05 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Why > > Yeah, I get this question all the time. Usually only after a short > conversation has already occurred, however. When I mention it's 1000cc > (996 > if you're anal), they usually draw in their breath and grimace. I take it > that 600s are seen by the public as pretty large, serious bikes, with > 1000s > being only for real wack-jobs. :^) I got a lot of this attitude when I > started riding and told people I rode a 600cc bike (Seca II). Most people > seemed to think that the bike was pretty powerful for a beginner. I never > looked at it that way. > > Chris Weaver > 98 VTR > > > Jeannette wrote: > does every male that sees me with a helmet ask, "How many cc's is it?" > Do guys get this question? > LOL > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 09:59:42 1999 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24829 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:59:41 -0400 (EDT) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX (14397) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id jQETa02691; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:57:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6907734c.24893557@aol.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:57:43 EDT Subject: Re: RE: Why To: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 79 >Then there was the gas station attendant who asked me if it was a Norton... I have a friend with a GPz550 that is spray painted black and held together with electrical tape and staples. He put Vincent stickers on the gas tank.... and he has been asked, "what year is your Vincent?" Colleen From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 10:13:16 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25088 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:13:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26627 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay03.mcit.com (omzrelay03.mcit.com [199.249.19.245]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05389 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38418) with ESMTP id <0FCT00DRP3D07F@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:10:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta04.mcit.com (omzmta04.mcit.com [166.37.194.122]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA18214; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:11:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta04.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990604140959.IAXD632@toddnt>; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:09:59 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:07:22 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Poker Run 6-5 In-reply-to: <85256786.004A193B.00@172.16.2.37> To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, C J <900rrmofo@XXXXXX> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000501beae93$91082c10$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal LOL. That's good imagery. Scenery? What scenery? Where? he, he, he..... Just got off the phone with Linda Tanner. We'll be riding up together to meet everyone/anyone at the Leesburg Amoco at 8pm. If anyone wants to ride out with us, drop me a line. We could also meet up with folks at Rt50 and Rt28 there under the bridge (it's on the way). Todd > > > Wait a minute, isn't this Craig of the infamous WXYZRQVMZFMOFO group? > So, how fast will you be riding this poker run and how will you > manage to grab > cards flying by while scraping pegs at 100mph+? ; ) > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > > > > "C J" <900rrmofo@XXXXXX> on 06/04/99 08:21:07 AM > > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) > Subject: Re: Poker Run 6-5 > > > > > > For those of you that are going to attend the Leesburg Police > Poker Run this > Saturday, > A group of us are going to meet at the Leesburg Amoco (near the > Loudoun County > Bldg.,on King St.) at or near 8:00 a.m. to gas up, hang out, > B.S., coffee, and > then ride in as a group to the Police station to register, which > starts at 9:00. > If you are going to go on this ride, please think about meeting > us, we could > show up as a group. > making more of an effect than rolling in 1 by 1... > See ya in the A.M..... > --- > Craig > 99 RR From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 10:19:28 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25185 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:19:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A06B5E50078; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:19:23 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990604100110.013609e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:03:12 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:28 AM 6/3/99 , JOE NAGY wrote: >he grinned larged and yelled (I'm sure >his ears were shot): "Ain't it a great fokkin day fer a ride?" I had >to laugh. We ate together, and I told him what I'd expected. Mouth >full of burger, he says, "Hell, man. I don't give a rat's ass 'bout >what yer ridin'--yer out here. That's what counts." > >Pretty cool, which is why I try not to judge folks based on what they >ride, except for you dorky ___________ riders. On man, now you've done it. I REALLY hate those ___________ riders, they smell bad, they ride stupid, their bikes always break, they always whine about everyone else. ___________ riders think theirs is the only bike in the whole damn world. ___________ riders are the pits. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 10:19:43 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25188 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A06C5E50078; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:19:24 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990604100955.01392d60@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:16:22 -0400 To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Why Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" In-Reply-To: <85256785.007572A5.00@172.16.2.37> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:12 PM 6/3/99 , Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > > >does every male that sees me with a helmet ask, "How many cc's is it?" >Do guys get this question? >LOL >- Jeannette Sure I get it ... it means how large is the displacement of your engine. :-) Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 10:19:48 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25191 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A06A5E50078; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:19:22 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990604095834.0134ddf0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:00:08 -0400 To: Gary Foreman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: What jacket to get? In-Reply-To: <000601beadd4$f9902cc0$d929bccc@loudoun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:23 AM 6/3/99 , you wrote: >The old leather jacket has seen better days. No removable lining, and no >venting. I feel like I'm going to have a stroke some days. I'm looking at >maybe something other than leather. Has to be COOL (not as in looking >cool). Pads preferred in crucial places. What are my choices? Has to come >in BIG sizes...BBIIGG SIZES (had to repeat that). I tried some leather >jackets on the other day with venting, but damn they were heavy! Prefer a >shorter jacket with a Velcro waistband. Don't care too much about >waterproof. I'm selling my CoolTech ventilated leather jacket, is size 48 big enough? CoolTech Ventilated leather jacket $200 size 48, color - grey. Good condition, new jacket zipper, never been down. With snap-in quilted liner (with full sleeves) and outer windbreaker shell. Padding in elbows & shoulders. Jacket material is vented mesh in armpits, sides of chest, and inside of elbows. Vents in shoulder epaulets. Thick, motorcycle-grade leather. One inner slash pocket, two front pockets with snapped flaps and zippers. Waist and shoulder expansion panels for ease of movement. >Anyone purchased something recent that they really like? I have had to ride >sans jacket of any kind over the last few days with the temps in the 90s >(yeah...dangerous, but so is passing out in an intersection!). The Aerostich Darien has a good reputation as a well-ventilated non-leather jacket. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 10:27:05 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25359 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38416) with ESMTP id <0FCT002CS3ZA5G@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:23:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta04.mcit.com (omzmta04.mcit.com [166.37.194.122]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA04081; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:22:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta04.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990604142334.IDXR632@toddnt>; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:23:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:20:57 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: RE: Why In-reply-to: <6907734c.24893557@aol.com> To: MotorLE@XXXXXX, Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000701beae95$76c4c640$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Well ok. I have a friend who removed all the Honda and ST1100 stickers and put the Ferrari emblems on both side fairings and the spelled out Ferrari lettering on the sides of the tank shell (black). He and another friend (on an identical year, different color ST1100) were resting at a gas stop when a true Ferrari enthusiast who had pulled in walked over and excitedly asked where he could get one like my friends. D'oh! Todd > >Then there was the gas station attendant who asked me if it was > a Norton... > > I have a friend with a GPz550 that is spray painted black and > held together > with electrical tape and staples. He put Vincent stickers on the > gas tank.... > and he has been asked, "what year is your Vincent?" > > Colleen > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 10:33:40 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25503 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26872 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06013 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3BA1D0D020A; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:33:30 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990604103005.00a03a30@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:33:17 -0400 To: ewhinger1@XXXXXX, vfr800@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Febreze . . .FYI Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <19990604.064005.240.0.ewhinger1@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:28 AM 6/3/99 , ewhinger1@XXXXXX wrote: >Don't know if this info is 100% correct, but it seems to be worth >mentioning. >A friend of mine used Febreeze on his dog's bedding and a few days later >the dog became very ill. >When he got the dog to the vet, the vet diagnosed the problem as toxic >poisoning and said that some >ingredient in Febreeze was toxic to animals. I looked at the ingredients >on a bottle and there isn't much of >anything listed. >Emmett W. Hinger Was that a friend or a friend of a friend? It sounds just like the current Urban Legend about Febreze. See the Febreze page at http://www.febreze.com/html/pet.html and the ASPCA National Animal Poison Control Center at http://www.napcc.aspca.org/febreze2.htm Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 10:36:24 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25587 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:36:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990604143622.1749.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web303.yahoomail.com; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 07:36:22 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:36:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Or..... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If ya don't feel like going on the poker run, you could always take the 5 hour ride to Garretsville, Ohio to watch some racing (or in my case crashing ;-)) I might have room for ONE more person with light gear if anyone wants to tag along to Nelson Ledges road course with me and Brian Roach this weekend.... We're leaving tonight around 6 pm from Alexandria. Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 10:40:44 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25611 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26959 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:39:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.1.236.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA06213 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Fri Jun 4 07:39:37 1999 To: "C J" <900rrmofo@XXXXXX>, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 07:39:37 -0700 From: "C J" <900rrmofo@XXXXXX> Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Poker Run 6-5 X-Sender-Ip: 140.188.64.152 Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:18:55 Jeannette_Zell wrote: > > >Wait a minute, isn't this Craig of the infamous WXYZRQVMZFMOFO group? Why yes it is , and it's the WSDYMOFOG..... At a casual pace set by the POLICE..... I'll be using a butterfly net. >So, how fast will you be riding this poker run and how will you manage to grab >cards flying by while scraping pegs at 100mph+? ; ) > >- Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > > > >"C J" <900rrmofo@XXXXXX> on 06/04/99 08:21:07 AM > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) >Subject: Re: Poker Run 6-5 > > > > > >For those of you that are going to attend the Leesburg Police Poker Run this >Saturday, >A group of us are going to meet at the Leesburg Amoco (near the Loudoun County >Bldg.,on King St.) at or near 8:00 a.m. to gas up, hang out, B.S., coffee, and >then ride in as a group to the Police station to register, which starts at 9:00. >If you are going to go on this ride, please think about meeting us, we could >show up as a group. >making more of an effect than rolling in 1 by 1... >See ya in the A.M..... >--- >Craig >99 RR > > > > > > > > Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 10:40:46 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25613 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:40:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA12748 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:40:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: Why In-Reply-To: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC95C@md-exchange1.nai.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Yeah, I get this question all the time. Usually only after a short > conversation has already occurred, however. When I mention it's 1000cc > (996 if you're anal), they usually draw in their breath and grimace. I > take it that 600s are seen by the public as pretty large, serious > bikes, with 1000s being only for real wack-jobs. :^) I got a lot of > this attitude when I started riding and told people I rode a 600cc bike > (Seca II). Most people seemed to think that the bike was pretty powerful > for a beginner. I suspect this is from people who've ridden or known people who've ridden two strokes. The type of power delivery you get from even small 2 strokes can be difficult for beginners to handle (or those used to 4 strokes). My 300lb uncle got on my CR80R and disrespectfully whacked the throttle open nearly looping it. Of course, 2 stroke street bikes aren't widely available any more but I'm sure there are lots of folks with scary stories of people crashing or nearly crashing a small bike because of the excessive power and the bike was a 2 stroke. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 10:44:19 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25714 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:48:18 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC95D@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: Why Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:40:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Hmmm...maybe I should get some Ducati stickers for the new '92 Concours... ;^) Perry > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Peer [SMTP:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 10:21 AM > To: MotorLE@XXXXXX; Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: RE: Why > > > Well ok. I have a friend who removed all the Honda and ST1100 stickers > and > put the Ferrari emblems on both side fairings and the spelled out Ferrari > lettering on the sides of the tank shell (black). He and another friend > (on > an identical year, different color ST1100) were resting at a gas stop when > a > true Ferrari enthusiast who had pulled in walked over and excitedly asked > where he could get one like my friends. D'oh! > > Todd > > > >Then there was the gas station attendant who asked me if it was > > a Norton... > > > > I have a friend with a GPz550 that is spray painted black and > > held together > > with electrical tape and staples. He put Vincent stickers on the > > gas tank.... > > and he has been asked, "what year is your Vincent?" > > > > Colleen > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 10:46:11 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25803 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:46:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Anita.dlt.com ([199.4.241.102]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA29247 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:46:14 -0400 Message-Id: <199906041446.KAA29247@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:47:52 -0400 Subject: Harley Davidson Computer Game... Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) I got a chuckle out of this one... now you don't even have to have a motorcycle to get the "Harley Davidson Experience"! :-) ------------------------------------ MINNEAPOLIS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 3, 1999-- WizardWorks, a division of GT Interactive Software Corp. (Nasdaq: {HYPERLINK "http://quote.yahoo.com/q?s=gtis&d=t"}GTIS - {HYPERLINK "/n/g/gtis.html"}news) is partnering with the ``king of the road'', Harley- Davidson® Motor Company, to publish a computer software game that's a virtual, 3-dimensional re-creation of the classic Harley Davidson road trip experience - the only thing missing is the wind in your hair. WizardWorks' Harley-Davidson's® Race Across America for PC puts gamers in the driver's seat of their own ``Hog'', as they race across the country to the motorcycle mecca - the Sturgis, South Dakota rally. ``Releasing a computer software title such as Harley-Davidson's Race Across America underscores WizardWorks' commitment in publishing titles that appeal to a broad spectrum of lifestyles and interests,'' said Paul Rinde, senior vice president of WizardWorks. ``Harley-Davidson is the premier motorcycle manufacturer who produces the finest bikes and has the most loyal customers in the world. We're excited to be partnering with such a leader.'' ``We are excited about this great game from WizardWorks,'' said Tom Parsons, director of Licensing for Harley-Davidson Motor Company. ``We think they have really captured the spirit of riding a Harley- Davidson motorcycle on the open road.'' Slated for release later this year, Harley-Davidson's Race Across America pits gamers in one of three starting locations: the Arizona desert, the New England countryside or the Redwood Forests of California enroute to their final destination - Sturgis, South Dakota. Along the way gamers will encounter obstacles and challenges such as wildlife, falling rocks, tunnels and steep inclines on narrow and slippery roads. The ultimate goal is to get to the Sturgis bike rally as quickly as possibly, while avoiding potential pitfalls. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 10:47:35 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25816 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:51:37 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC95E@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: Why Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:43:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain > Hmmm...maybe I should get some Ducati stickers for the new '92 Concours... ;^) > Perry Or better still - Some Maserati badges for the '86. I bet I could sell it to a collector real fast! From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 10:48:52 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25826 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:48:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com (corp23.kivex.com [208.213.150.23]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.8-KIVEX) with SMTP id KAA13021; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:49:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990604104301.00698af0@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:43:01 -0400 To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: Re: Why In-Reply-To: <85256786.0048826D.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:04 AM 6/4/99 -0400, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: >Yeah, I get this question all the time. Usually only after a short >conversation has already occurred, however. When I mention it's 1000cc (996 >if you're anal), they usually draw in their breath and grimace. two thoughts on all of this talk. Jay, my husband, has a Triumph T-595 and is always being asked if it's a 600. We sold an friend's '85 Honda Interceptor 500 to a co-worker of mine and now everyone assumes that I was the previous owner and that I ride 500's. I just sold my six and am now actively pursuing a VFR 750. Lisa Goddard Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 10:48:58 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25829 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:48:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user201.anent.com [208.195.115.201]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA00225 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:47:02 -0400 Message-ID: <01d901beae99$5e8d4b20$c973c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" References: <85256786.004A193B.00@172.16.2.37> Subject: Re: Poker Run 6-5 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:48:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 With a police escort of course! ;^) > Wait a minute, isn't this Craig of the infamous WXYZRQVMZFMOFO group? > So, how fast will you be riding this poker run and how will you manage to grab > cards flying by while scraping pegs at 100mph+? ; ) > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 11:01:38 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26148 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA06227 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.bellatlantic.net (client-209-158-138-69.libertyhs.com [209.158.138.69]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA00307; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:00:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906041500.LAA00307@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:03:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Wanted VFR 500 X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Danny Thompson" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) If anyone is selling a VFR 500 "miniceptor" I am looking for one. Let me know. I am in the Washington D.C. area. Thanks, Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 11:14:22 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26406 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA11337 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.bellatlantic.net (client-209-158-138-69.libertyhs.com [209.158.138.69]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA22725; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:17:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906041517.LAA22725@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:16:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: MC drag shootout at Summerduck dragstrip X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Danny Thompson" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) This Sunday is the Motorcycle Shootout at the local 1/8 mile drag strip in beautiful Summerduck, VA. The flier I got sounds like it should be pretty fun. I plan on attending. Anyone interested in watching some mc's go fast in a straight line? Summerduck is about halfway between Warrenton and Fredricksburg off Rt. 17. Let me know if anyone wants to go or meet up and we'll work something out. Later, Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 11:18:34 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26510 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA13032 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.bellatlantic.net (client-209-158-138-69.libertyhs.com [209.158.138.69]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA08704; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:17:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906041517.LAA08704@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:20:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Wanted VFR 500 X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Danny Thompson" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Had one? What happened to it?.... > Tood peer has one... er, had one... > > Brian > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 11:31:47 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26791 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:31:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:31:02 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:30:56 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:28:23 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: bnorton@XXXXXX, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Leesburg Police Poker Run for Virginia Special Olympics -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline NOVA'ers, I'm going to try and make the Poker Run, thinking my route would be 95 to 17 to 15. Any better ideas, and what do I do once I get to Leesburg? Thanks. Joe Richmond area From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 11:32:08 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26801 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA18818 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 18:32:55 UT Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:29 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Danny Thompson" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:MC drag shootout at Summerduck dragstrip Message-ID: <19990604113020560-a881234@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hmmm... maybe time to put the VFR on the track... 1/8th mile sucks though... I may be interested. Anyone else? Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: MC drag shootout at Summerduck dragstrip Author: dthompso1@XXXXXX (Danny Thompson) Date: 6/4/99 11:16 AM This Sunday is the Motorcycle Shootout at the local 1/8 mile drag strip in beautiful Summerduck, VA. The flier I got sounds like it should be pretty fun. I plan on attending. Anyone interested in watching some mc's go fast in a straight line? Summerduck is about halfway between Warrenton and Fredricksburg off Rt. 17. Let me know if anyone wants to go or meet up and we'll work something out. Later, Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 11:34:27 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26833 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA19712 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 18:35:13 UT Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:30 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:Wanted VFR 500 Message-ID: <19990604113319778-a8ace46@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That would be a VF500 not a VFR500... no such thing. There is a VFR400 which is sweeter than sweet... can be had for a fair price, too. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Wanted VFR 500 Author: dthompso1@XXXXXX (Danny Thompson) Date: 6/4/99 11:03 AM If anyone is selling a VFR 500 "miniceptor" I am looking for one. Let me know. I am in the Washington D.C. area. Thanks, Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 11:47:46 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA27167 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:47:11 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:47:07 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:44:49 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Amen. This is why I love bringing my Sprint to HOG events. Real bikers dig it, RUBs get all upset and confused. After all, it sez "Harley-Davidson" on the cases, and "Made in Italy" on the front fender! =:-O Joe '72 SX 350 pastaburner >>> "Marvin Heilesen" - 6/3/99 7:00 PM >>> On Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:05:29 -0400, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: >I thought I'd relate a conversation I had with a Harley "enthusiast" at the >Rolling Thunder procession on Sunday. We had the opposite experience. Waiting in the pentagon parking lot, we were parked by a group of riders, all wearing colors. They all rode Harley's, most with ape hangers. You should have seen them all oogle the BMW a friend of mine rode in on. One of the most tattooed said that he would buy one if he had the money and what a fine machine it was. The bike that got the most attention in my general area was an old Suzuki, that had obviously been used for racing. Compared to that, there were the "Rockville Yuppies" that I always see at the Rockville HD events. They always wear HD clothing, they have heavily customized bikes, and are the typical riders that HD went to the LCD odometers (so you can't see how little they ride). They are the ones that I felt turned their noses up at mine and the other bikes because they were not HD's. The real bikers that I have met don't care what you ride. I love riding my old GS400 to the ABATE meetings because I get all these old bikers out looking at my bike and reminiscing about the bikes they used to ride. Real bikers are also real people. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 12:04:15 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27491 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:04:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 19:05:09 UT Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 12:02 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:daily replies Message-ID: <19990604120319906-aa64606@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nah... this was definitely an older motorcycle... and I believe that it had a conventional swing arm (not single sided). Also had exhaust on each side of the bike. This bike LOOKED older... older paint, graphics, etc. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: daily replies Author: ges6@XXXXXX (Greg Sachs) Date: 6/3/99 7:43 PM 3: Tom(i think, asking about unknown honda) Could have been an RC45, they have the 360 degree crank, and are well known for teh dual pipe(stacked, like shotgun). Could have also been an 800 with a CBR900 rear, I'm told this is doable. Hard to say without a better description. Greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/3/99 HSTA/AMA 7:43:42 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 12:23:23 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27897 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:23:21 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (8048) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2RSYa02602 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:22:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6ddd1f2a.24895742@aol.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:22:26 EDT Subject: Re: Why To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 I get the opposite of that... mine's a honda CB-1 400 but most people who ask about cc's start out with "is that a 600?" LOL Marcy In a message dated 6/3/99 10:08:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ursulina@XXXXXX writes: << Or sometimes, "That ain't a bike, that's a scooter." W h a t e v e r ! ;-P >> From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 12:26:20 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27922 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:26:19 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (8048) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2OZQa02604 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:24:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <88a0774f.248957d9@aol.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:24:57 EDT Subject: Re: Why To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 can't judge a book by its cover.... ;D Marcy In a message dated 6/4/99 10:33:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: << He and another friend (on an identical year, different color ST1100) were resting at a gas stop when a true Ferrari enthusiast who had pulled in walked over and excitedly asked where he could get one like my friends. D'oh! >> From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 13:20:33 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc014.hqda.pentagon.mil (dadc014.hqda.pentagon.mil [141.116.33.24]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA29048 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc014.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:18:43 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB02EE@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Wanted VFR 500 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:19:35 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) And to be even more specific its the VF500F cause the VF500C is the Magna. :-) Glenn >That would be a VF500 not a VFR500... no such thing. There is a VFR400 which >is sweeter than sweet... can be had for a fair price, too. >Tom >'86 VFR750 >If anyone is selling a VFR 500 "miniceptor" I am looking for one. Let >me know. I am in the Washington D.C. area. >Thanks, >Danny From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 13:56:09 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29703 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:55:18 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:55:11 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:52:14 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: NJitzul@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Why -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Uh, gee, well, you know, they weren't makin' 'em to look like BMWs . . . just a joke, folks. --Joe >>> - 6/3/99 8:52 PM >>> I frequently get asked "is that a Harley?" and "what year is that?" Usually, they're suprised when I give them the answer. The best was when a gas station attendant said over the intercom "Nice Harley." Aaaaaaagh!!! ;) Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 14:03:32 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from web501.yahoomail.com (web501.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29894 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990604181236.29188.rocketmail@web501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [198.45.19.20] by web501.yahoomail.com; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:12:36 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:12:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: RE: Why To: DC-Cycles Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That would be a refreshing attitude -- some respect for motorcycles' power. The non-riding folks I have run into often asked if my CBR600 was a 900 or 1000cc bike, and they seemed disappointed at its true displacement. I was guilty of the same ignorance (and still have plenty left in other areas) before I was enlightened by racers on FZR400s or smaller. Sean Sullivan --- Kirk Roy wrote: > (Seca II). Most people seemed to think that >>the >>bike was pretty powerful >>for a beginner. > > I suspect this is from people who've ridden or known > people who've ridden > two strokes. The type of power delivery you get from > even small 2 strokes > can be difficult for beginners to handle (or those > used to 4 strokes). My > 300lb uncle got on my CR80R and disrespectfully > whacked the throttle open > nearly looping it. Of course, 2 stroke street bikes > aren't widely > available any more but I'm sure there are lots of > folks with scary stories > of people crashing or nearly crashing a small bike > because of the > excessive power and the bike was a 2 stroke. > > Kirk > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 14:19:44 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00286 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:19:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA29892 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA13636 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:18:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:17:37 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:17:37 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:14:41 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, 900rrmofo@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Poker Run 6-5 -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline -snip- A group of us are going to meet at the Leesburg Amoco (near the Loudoun County Bldg.,on King St.) at or near 8:00 a.m. to gas up, hang out, B.S., coffee, and then ride in as a group to the Police station to register, which starts at 9:00. If you are going to go on this ride, please think about meeting us, we could show up as a group. making more of an effect than rolling in 1 by 1... -snip- Cool. love to. how do I get there? directions from the nearest major highway will do. Thanks. Joe From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 14:25:41 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from defender.fda.gov (defender.fda.gov [198.77.181.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00445 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:25:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gatekeeper.cder.fda.gov by defender.fda.gov via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 4 Jun 1999 18:25:04 UT Received: from royk.cder.fda.gov by gatekeeper.cder.fda.gov; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/19Sep95-0726PM) id AA05096; Tue, 30 May 2000 14:27:10 -0400 From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: (fwd) F.S. FANTIC 247 TRIALS Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 18:27:02 GMT Message-Id: <375a1a4d.170069158@gatekeeper.cder.fda.gov> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I remember someone looking to buy a trials bike. Here's one just 10 hours away... On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 00:09:22 -0700, in rec.motorcycles.dirt Owens David <5014.0021@XXXXXX> wrote: >1992 FANTIC 247 TRIALS bike > ALMOST FREE $650.00 located in INDY > Runs Good, Looks Fair > Front and Rear Discs > air cooled > Braided lines > Fresh chain and Sprockets > Dave 317 788-8471 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 14:30:48 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00638 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:30:07 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:30:03 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:26:49 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: Why -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Or better still - Some Maserati badges for the '86. I bet I could sell it to a collector real fast! NOOOOOO!!! DON'T DO IT! Maserati badges cause engine fires! Joe From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 14:31:50 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00648 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:31:17 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:31:08 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:28:16 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, 2xracers@XXXXXX Subject: Harley Davidson Computer Game... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline What. A. Pantload. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 14:35:09 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00733 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990604183608.10581.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web307.yahoomail.com; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:36:08 PDT Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:36:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: I wanna be like Mike!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Now I see why our elustrius Mr. Jordan likes to ride that GSX1100 of his... it has nothing to do with the 70+ ft-lbs of torque or anything like that....man, I HAVE to go to Daytona one of these years.... "I'll take two of those please..." http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mclaw/99daytona2.html Collin === Collin T. 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 14:49:46 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01044 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:49:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA00283 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:49:42 -0400 (EDT) From: ewhinger1@XXXXXX Received: from m20.boston.juno.com (m20.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.190]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14696 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ewhinger1@XXXXXX) by m20.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ECASS4WT; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:49:25 EDT To: cnorloff@XXXXXX Cc: ewhinger1@XXXXXX, vfr800@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:43:23 EDT Subject: Re: Febreze . . .FYI Message-ID: <19990604.144831.191.0.ewhinger1@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Human being speaking to human being. >Was that a friend or a friend of a friend? It sounds just like the >current >Urban Legend about Febreze. > >See the Febreze page at http://www.febreze.com/html/pet.html >and the ASPCA National Animal Poison Control Center at >http://www.napcc.aspca.org/febreze2.htm > > >Chris Norloff >Falls Church, Virginia >1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter >sidecar Emmett W. Hinger Centreville VA. COG AMA ________________________________________________________________ Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 15:08:59 1999 Return-Path: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bmdo.mcri.com (root@[207.124.52.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01702 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:08:54 -0400 (EDT) From: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from jnewman ([192.168.13.162]) by bmdo.mcri.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA21017 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:11:27 -0400 Message-Id: <199906041811.OAA21017@bmdo.mcri.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:01:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Why Priority: normal In-reply-to: <19990604181236.29188.rocketmail@web501.yahoomail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:12:36 -0700 (PDT) 0000,0000,8000Sean Sullivan wrote: < > ...The non-riding folks I have run into often asked if my >CBR600 >was a 900 or 1000cc bike, and they seemed >disappointed at its true >displacement... >...before I was enlightened by racers on FZR400s or >smaller. I experience stuff like that all the time ... The answer usually is something like "... oh, just a 400 huh? isn't that a little small for you?...." I usually than have to defend the fact that I ride a 400 by saying something to the extent of "...No, it isn't capable of doing 160mph [ 189 with the new hayabusa], but how often do people really get the chance to ride a latest generation sportbike to it's fullest capability outside of a racetrack? Not too often. Especially if you care about keeping your license very long..." I'm not making any judgements about people who ride 1000 or 1300 sportbikes... I firmly believe "to each his own..." I do, however, try and give non riders [ or other riders which can't understand why I ride a 400 ] a little perspective as to why I ride such a "small and underpowered" bike when the public's perception seems to be the latest 600cc bikes are for beginners... Just my .02 worth -John N FZR 400 and proud of it... From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 15:18:00 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01949 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:17:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA00887 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:17:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA15666 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:17:36 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:17:30 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:14:04 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Poker Run 6-5 -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Thanks, Todd. If any lister sees some guy in a black jacket, white helmet , white gloves riding a purty darn shiny red/black 1985 Ninja 900, flag him down. It's me, lookin' fer yous. Thanks. Joe From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 15:24:20 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA02034 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:24:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id MAA23336 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:24:10 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:24:10 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: I wanna be like Mike!! Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:24:07 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Collin, You weren't supposed to tell!!!!! Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 16:49:34 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA03487 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:49:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id QAA12357 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:49:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:49:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: dc-cycles Subject: RE: Why Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Also, you'll notice that there are very few sub 600cc bikes imported into the US anymore. Aside from the 250cc starter/budget bikes, you pretty much start at a 500CC twin or a 600cc four. This is caused by the weird American phenom that "bigger is better". I suspect it has to do with the size (or lack therof) of a certain body part in many male americans, but I can't prove it :) . It's the same thing that has kept a V8 in the mustang even though the euro and japanese cars are producing more power more efficiently with smaller displacement. I'm 5'10 ~150 lbs... I'm racing a FZR400 this year. I'd *LOVE* to be able to buy a modern 400cc Sportbike for the street. I took the MSF course again this spring because my girlfriend was interested and said she'd go if I took it with her. There was another woman there learning to ride... she had never been on a bike before, and was (understandably) having some troubles with learning to ride. While talking, she mentioned she had already purchased her first bike, and was taking the class so she could get her license... her first bike is a '96 ZX6R (!!!!). Also, she was about 5'6" tall... I doubt much more than her toes would reach the pavement. To top it off (it gets better) it rained on Sunday during our class (hard)... she didn't show to finish the class. IMHO this is not a good thing. I understand her wanting a sportbike... I love 'em too. But that bike is not a starter bike (And this has nothing to do with gender.). The fact that your choices are 250cc "budget" bikes, or a 600cc monster making 90+ hp makes it hard to get the bike suited for you. If you buy the 250cc, in a year you'll want to sell it. The 600cc just might get you hurt. A 400cc or even a non-watered down 250cc sportbike would be perfect for many beginners wanting that type of bike. ::sigh:: - Brian Roach From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 17:03:25 1999 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03773 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl51.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.193]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 3579200 ; Fri, 04 Jun 1999 17:01:42 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC Cycles Mail List" , "JimJacks@XXXXXX" Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 17:09:52 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 06/01/99 Message-Id: <199906042101.3579200@zzapp.org> On Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:32:16 EDT, JimJacks@XXXXXX wrote: >Oh yea, good to see you again Snake, was surprised to find you in this group! Trust me, this is not the first DC Cycles ride I have been on. This was my wife's first time, though. I think I scared her a little. I love pushing my cruiser, just to see if I can do it. To me a bike is a bike, but I don't think that I would ever ride a sports bike. I would probably kill myself the first time out. Also, I have become sedate in my old age. It was nice seeing everyone on the ride and at the wonderful BBQ. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 17:33:31 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.13]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04412 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:33:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA18591; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:32:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv12-50.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.178) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma018572; Fri Jun 4 16:32:21 1999 Message-ID: <00bd01beaed1$53284ae0$b25e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "JOE NAGY" Cc: "dc-cycles" References: Subject: Re: Poker Run 6-5 -Reply Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:29:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Joe, FWIW, King St is Rt 15 I believe. from Rt 7 bypass around Leesburg, = just head into town, north. If I recall Amoco is justa short bit on = the right. If you come in on the Greenway, just get off on the left = exit Rt 7 west, and get right off agin at the next exit, that is Rt 15. = C you there.... Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: JOE NAGY To: ; <900rrmofo@XXXXXX> Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Poker Run 6-5 -Reply >=20 > -snip- > A group of us are going to meet at the Leesburg Amoco (near the = Loudoun > County Bldg.,on King St.) at or near 8:00 a.m. to gas up, hang out, > B.S., coffee, and then ride in as a group to the Police station to > register, which starts at 9:00. > If you are going to go on this ride, please think about meeting us, we > could show up as a group. > making more of an effect than rolling in 1 by 1... -snip- >=20 > Cool. love to. how do I get there? directions from the nearest = major > highway will do. Thanks. >=20 > Joe >=20 >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 17:45:39 1999 Return-Path: jmoran@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04696 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from loudoun.com (leesburg-59.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with ESMTP id <0FCT00DD8OFKNK@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 17:55:02 -0400 From: Randy and Julie Moran Subject: Re: Why To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-to: jmoran@XXXXXX Message-id: <37584B36.29844456@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <199906041811.OAA21017@bmdo.mcri.com> 400s rule! ...except in a straight line...then they don't rule so much...otherwise though they pretty much rule. Except on long trips...no ruling going on there. Oh yeah, and they're less than regal with a passenger on the back...but other than that, bow to the king, baby! I'm gonna go do some ruling on the back roads around here... Randy Moran '92 GSF 400 Bandit jnewman@XXXXXX wrote: > On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:12:36 -0700 (PDT) > Sean Sullivan wrote: > > > ...The non-riding folks I have run into often asked if my >CBR600 > >was a 900 or 1000cc bike, and they seemed >disappointed at its true > >displacement... > >...before I was enlightened by racers on FZR400s or >smaller. > > I experience stuff like that all the time ... The answer usually is something like "... oh, just a 400 huh? isn't that a little small for you?...." > > I usually than have to defend the fact that I ride a 400 by saying something to the extent of "...No, it isn't capable of doing 160mph [ 189 with the new hayabusa], but how often do people really get the chance to ride a latest generation sportbike to it's fullest capability outside of a racetrack? Not too often. Especially if you care about keeping your license very long..." > > I'm not making any judgements about people who ride 1000 or 1300 sportbikes... I firmly believe "to each his own..." I do, however, try and give non riders [ or other riders which can't understand why I ride a 400 ] a little perspective as to why I ride such a "small and underpowered" bike when the public's perception seems to be the latest 600cc bikes are for beginners... > > Just my .02 worth > > -John N > FZR 400 and proud of it... From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 18:40:37 1999 Return-Path: OsbornKev@XXXXXX Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05590 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:40:35 -0400 (EDT) From: OsbornKev@XXXXXX Received: from OsbornKev@XXXXXX (14398) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2KPVa14117 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:39:53 EDT Subject: Aftermarket Exhaust Question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 I have a 96 Kawasaki ZX-6E. If you know the bike you'll know it has two mufflers. The exhaust is 4 into 1 back to 2. Why? I don't know. Anyway, I'm looking into get new pipes for it and there is not much available for this model. Vance & Hines SSR-2 will replace the factory with a 4 into 1. Much more desirable given I will be able to use my helmet lock on the left side, let alone the performance difference. I wanted to know a couple of things. 1. Anyone have any opinion of V&H pipes or specifically the SSR-2? 2. Is this something I can install myself or do I have to pay some dealer an outrageous sum of money to install it? 3. Will I need to get the bike jetted if I install the new pipe? Thanks in advance. - KO From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 19:56:35 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06951 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA04599 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:56:31 -0400 (EDT) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (zbig@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA23302 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:56:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id TAA01246; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906042355.TAA01246@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: Poker Run 6-5 To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX (Todd Peer) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Cc: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, 900rrmofo@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <000501beae93$91082c10$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> from "Todd Peer" at Jun 4, 99 10:07:22 am Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > Just got off the phone with Linda Tanner. We'll be riding up together to > meet everyone/anyone at the Leesburg Amoco at 8pm. If anyone wants to ride Todd, you are really running late this time, unless you mean 8pm Friday - and then you will camp in leesburg... > Todd _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 20:40:02 1999 Return-Path: worlemar@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07722 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:40:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA13861 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (207-172-137-207.s16.as4.dam.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.137.207]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id UAA27702 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:39:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:39:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906050039.UAA27702@smtp4.erols.com> X-Sender: worlemar@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: worlemar@XXXXXX (Sandy & Lowell) Subject: Re: Wanted VFR 500 Might have one for sale in the fall if it survives the road racing season at Summit Point, WV. (Previous efforts have resulted in destruction of F1 Hurricane and FZR400, plus various broken bones!) Give me a call. Lowell Martin Poolesville, MD (202) 467-7152 CCS/WERA AM # 629 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 4 21:51:11 1999 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08908 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zellto (adsl-151-200-16-190.bellatlantic.net [151.200.16.190]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA21623; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:50:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001e01beaef6$9003ab60$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> From: "Thomas and Jeannette" To: , References: Subject: Re: Aftermarket Exhaust Question Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:56:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 V&H indeed makes some good pipes and the system that you have picked out is one of their best so I would say go for it. This system is part of their race line of exhaust systems and will more than likely require some jetting work... probably a DynoJet Stage 2. You can try putting the system on yourself BUT since you'll be going with new jetting you might as well have a reputable shop do the work instead; ie. Fast Lanes Cycles in Chantilly or Battley Harley Davidson in Frederick (hope I spelled it right). Both shops are equiped with dynomometers to make the best of their tuning efforts. You will probably have to wait a while for an open spot. Another way is to bolt on the exhaust yourself, leave all of the bodywork off (tank, fairing, etc.) and deliver the bike in "ready to work on" condition along with the jet kit and go from there. A lot of labor is spent on removing parts (which mechanics hate btw... believe me... been there done that). Having parts removed already makes the meat of the work go faster. Tom '86 VFR750 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 6:39 PM Subject: Aftermarket Exhaust Question > I have a 96 Kawasaki ZX-6E. If you know the bike you'll know it has two > mufflers. The exhaust is 4 into 1 back to 2. Why? I don't know. > > Anyway, I'm looking into get new pipes for it and there is not much available > for this model. Vance & Hines SSR-2 will replace the factory with a 4 into > 1. Much more desirable given I will be able to use my helmet lock on the > left side, let alone the performance difference. > > I wanted to know a couple of things. > 1. Anyone have any opinion of V&H pipes or specifically the SSR-2? > 2. Is this something I can install myself or do I have to pay some dealer an > outrageous sum of money to install it? > 3. Will I need to get the bike jetted if I install the new pipe? > > Thanks in advance. > > - KO > From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 5 00:06:06 1999 Return-Path: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA11000 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 00:06:05 -0400 (EDT) From: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from JimJacks@XXXXXX (4420) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIQOa09518 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 00:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5e72e0a.2489fbe0@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 00:04:48 EDT Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 06/04/99 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 so if you ride a harley or a rising sun road racer, no matter, but if you ride a sportbike it had better be small or you must have a small dick, and parking is a bitch , right? People in cars dont see us? Some people are assholes? Some are nice? I must have a very small dick, but I am nice. Ford rules! Chevy sucks! -Jim - a bike From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 5 02:05:11 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA13556 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 02:05:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr50-dialup164.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.196.168]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35317) with SMTP id <0FCU0045LBJK7R@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 06:04:36 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 02:04:44 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: Aftermarket Exhaust Question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <004901beaef7$ca4aafc0$a8c43ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: > I wanted to know a couple of things. > 1. Anyone have any opinion of V&H pipes or specifically the SSR-2? Good pipes Kevin and what's nice about V&H cans is that you can open them up and replace, repair, or remove anything. It's all bolted together, not riveted. The oval can looks good, too. Highly recommended..... > 2. Is this something I can install myself or do I have to pay some dealer an > outrageous sum of money to install it? If you can tighten a nut on a bolt, you can most definitely put on an exhaust system. Besides your basic hand tools, you might need needle nose pliers or dykes(side cutters) for the small springs V&H likes to use. If you buy, order extra springs, they're know to fly off when you're riding.... > 3. Will I need to get the bike jetted if I install the new pipe? Since you're getting a full pipe, I'd recommend it. Stick with a stage 1, makes life a lot easier. Easy to tune, keeps your airbox intact and will make your bike run much smoother with a little added hp. Going stage 3 will dramatically affect the small displacement engine - no low end. It also doesn't like weather changes and makes the power band more specific. Best way to go would be to make a dyno tuning appointment and have them set up your bike with the jet kit and pipe in hand. If you can't wait, you can still run your bike with the pipe and no jet kit, but it's going to run a bit lean. You can get away with just the pipe, but don't drop a K&N in and start cutting holes in the airbox or you'll run way too lean - certain death..... Jon ICQ# 11193913 92 FZR600 Updated! http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Lane/9213/index.html From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 5 08:44:47 1999 Return-Path: blasalle@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA22671 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 08:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-200-119-77.bellatlantic.net [151.200.119.77]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA02066 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 08:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37591AD7.D8BFC918@bellatlantic.net> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 08:40:55 -0400 From: Brian & Christa LaSalle Reply-To: blasalle@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Anyone in Maryland riding Sunday? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody heading out on Sunday? Brian Yellow Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 5 09:04:18 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23058 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:04:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (8040) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id kHEAa15352; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:01:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4f23070b.248a79b3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:01:39 EDT Subject: Re: Anyone in Maryland riding Sunday? To: blasalle@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 6/5/99 8:53:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, blasalle@XXXXXX writes: << Anybody heading out on Sunday? >> I'll probably be at Ego Alley (Annapolis) at 3-4 o'clock. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 5 12:33:08 1999 Return-Path: dankenney@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (f48.hotmail.com [207.82.250.59]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26632 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 12:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 46478 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jun 1999 16:32:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990605163231.46477.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.172.147.104 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 05 Jun 1999 09:32:31 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.172.147.104] From: DAN KENNEY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Ride on Sunday Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 09:32:31 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I wish I could ride on Sunday. But I have have front row tickets for the Nascar race in Dover. Dan Kenney Red 1997 Suzuki TL1000s _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 5 14:32:36 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28549 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14482 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:32:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [216.164.233.87]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04874 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:32:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA00932 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:32:37 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma000930; Sat, 5 Jun 99 14:32:32 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990605142509.009c86e0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 14:32:21 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Poker Run 6/5 Trip Info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Great turnout! I couldn;t find the Aamaco station on King street, 'cause there isn;t one on King street, but I eventually met up with several listers at the police station. There was a HUGE turnout (200?) - mixed bag of bikes. Got several pictures of everyone parked and on the road. I was very dissapointed with the trip layout. We went 7 to 601 (gravel covered and slow running staggered formation) to 50 West to the HD in Winchester. From there I split off with another VFR rider and took lead all the way to the end. Leesburg cops were going too slow =) >From HD we took 522 South to 55 East back to 15 and home to Leesburg. 55 Was fun at higher speeds, but a group of bicyclists taking up the ENTIRE road caught us off-guard on a hill/blind curve. Stupid volvo wouldn't pass the bikes. Screeching halt, etc.... Run was mostly slab, but they had free drinks and snacks at every stop (2 Mobils) and decent BBQ at the end of the ride. I think I ate and split before any other riders had arrived! Perfect weather, no problems, just too many straight roads..... Will post pics when the develop. Damn analog camera..... MT _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 5 17:22:10 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01320 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:22:09 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (3950) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 8PUQa18282; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5a647ddc.248aeeba@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:20:58 EDT Subject: Larger Tank, part II To: Roadhouse@XXXXXX, DC-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Anyone out there have any idea how many gallons an early 80s Honda CX650 or Magna fuel tank holds? I saw a CX650 (nearly complete) at Baltimore Cycle Salvage, and the tank mounts look exactly like my Shadow's. I also remember accidently confusing an early Magna with a Shadow (I was quickly corrected!), and the tank on it looked similar as well. Both tanks look wider than my Shadow's. I'm not sure how it will look on the bike (the sides are straight down, rather than curved inward at the bottom), but that's a secondary concern. Thanks! Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 5 17:44:52 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01657 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA16042 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:44:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv12-43.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.171) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma016029; Sat Jun 5 16:43:48 1999 Message-ID: <006101beaf9c$153b0120$ab5e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Leesburg PD Poker Run Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:40:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I'll second what Mike said, damm, he must have flown to the keyboard = from the PD Station, it was a great chance to link more faces and bikes = with email addresses. As for the section on 55East, If they'd of kept = the Volvo drivers off, it would not have beeen nearly as bad ;) I never = realized that Volvo's were so much wider than your average sedan, and = were unable to pass the bicyclist on the side of the road....At least = one of the listers, Sean, CBR1000?? won a door prize, not sure about = anyone else. As for Weather mountain, at least it was not snowing this = time, but definitely a road you have to pay attention to. =20 Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 5 17:51:06 1999 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01826 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:51:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl46.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.188]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 3806100 ; Sat, 05 Jun 1999 17:49:21 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 17:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <19990605163231.46477.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ride on Sunday Message-Id: <199906052149.3806100@zzapp.org> On Sat, 05 Jun 1999 09:32:31 PDT, DAN KENNEY wrote: >I wish I could ride on Sunday. But I have have front row tickets for the >Nascar race in Dover. Have I mentioned yet that I hate you? Just kidding, but I am real jealous. I got to see my first NASCAR race last year in Charlotte (Mark Martin won, YEAH!). I have been following NASCAR for about 25 years. There just aren't too many races back in Idaho. Meridian Speedway, In Meridian, Ida., did have the NASCAR drivers out to sign autographs. I stood out on the blacktop race track in 115 degree weather to get the autographs and felt that it was not much of a price to pay. And now I hear that you have front row tickets.... :( ___________ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 5 22:34:22 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06138 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-216-238.s238.tnt3.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.216.238]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id WAA14208 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 99 22:22:15 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: Sat thoughts To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >From: Mike T >Subject: Poker Run 6/5 Trip Info > >Great turnout! I couldn;t find the Aamaco station on King street, 'cause >there isn;t one on King street, but I eventually met up with several >listers at the police station. There was a HUGE turnout (200?) - mixed bag >of bikes. Got several pictures of everyone parked and on the road. > >I was very dissapointed with the trip layout. We went 7 to 601 (gravel >covered and slow running staggered formation) to 50 West to the HD in >Winchester. From there I split off with another VFR rider and took lead >all the way to the end. Leesburg cops were going too slow =) I'm guessing this was me, but we never actually introduced each other. 91, RUASQD plate? Nice to meet you, a bit belated. >>From HD we took 522 South to 55 East back to 15 and home to Leesburg. 55 >Was fun at higher speeds, but a group of bicyclists taking up the ENTIRE >road caught us off-guard on a hill/blind curve. Stupid volvo wouldn't pass >the bikes. Screeching halt, etc.... Yeah, not nice. we were doing a somewhat illegal speed(mike said 95, I don't think it was that fast, but wasn't really watching), come around corner, and hit brakes hard-nearly got a VFR up my rear. Couple ugly passes too, largely my fault(I was leading this segment) >From: "Ken" > >I'll second what Mike said, damm, he must have flown to the keyboard = >from the PD Station, it was a great chance to link more faces and bikes Ok, I'm guessing you were the other guy I talked with some-Sportster, and we talked a bunch about overseas bikes like the Veradero? Nice to meet you too. Definately, had fun, could have used less slab, but was cool to have cop pull up next to me with lights siren, then punch it away from him;-). Other than that the escort was boring. 601 was a total waste-great road, but barely moving. Didn't really expect to ride hard, but I never even leaned the bike over. or at least not more than 5 degrees. yawn. Shoulda passed the cops. Greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/5/99 HSTA/AMA 10:22:15 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 6 22:15:07 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29490 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:15:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA01343 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [216.164.224.44]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA27522 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:15:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA01485; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:15:15 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma001483; Sun, 6 Jun 99 22:15:05 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990606221025.009d8c90@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 22:14:44 -0400 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Mike T Subject: Disappointment In-Reply-To: <19990606230355.85224.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, I just watched an hour long program on TLC promoting Harley Davidson motorcycles, cleverly titled 'The Secret History of Bikers'. With a title like that, you might think that they would talk about different brands of bikes, styles, etc. Nope. They best they did was a 10 second shot of an old Honda ad titled 'You meet the nicest people on a Honda'. Thing looked like a moped. Anyway - if anyone else tuned in to TLC, or was thinking of catching it, don't bother. Unless you are interested in Harley and Indian history that is..... _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 6 22:24:38 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29591 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA01422 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:24:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [216.164.224.44]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA27633 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA01498 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:24:45 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma001496; Sun, 6 Jun 99 22:24:42 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990606222321.009dbac0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 22:24:24 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Fwd: Medical/Bike Update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Forwarding this from a former lurker of the list. Apparently he was run down by a blue hair at RT. >From: "wes 8-)#" >Subject: Medical/Bike Update > >Folks -- > >Again, thanks 1,000,000 for all the thoughts, prayers, and positive waves. >If you don't know what positive waves are, go watch "Kelly's Heroes" with >Clint Eastwood & Donald Sutherland (among many others just as famous). > >For those of you who are new to the list or just don't remember (Rolling >Thunder was a *lo-ong* weekend!), I was riding my '96 BRIGHT YELLOW & white >Shadow on 11 May when a 78-year-old woman ran me over. I'm still calling >it an involuntary moving dismount. My left leg was broken in 3 places, >necessitating the placement of a permanent rod inside my tibia (the big >bone below the knee), which is held in place with 4 screws. You can read a >blow-by-blowaccount (complete w/pictures...ewww!) at my website, >http://shadow.newspeak.org > >On the medical front, everything is progressing rather nicely. I had a bad >scare last week because my physical therapist thought I might have a blood >clot, but it was checked out and there is no blood clot. Apparently blood >clots are bad, because if the break loose they can get into your heart, >lungs, or brain and KILL you. I'm awful glad I didn't have one. My next >PT appointment is on Tuesday, and I will start weight-bearing exercises for >the first time since the accident. The puncture on my calf from the >compound fracture has nearly healed over. The large surgical wound on my >shin is healing slowly, but it is healing. The doc took out the stitches >last week. The burns just below my ankle are healing slowly as well. > >I still don't have much feeling in my leg below about mid-shin, but the doc >says it'll either come back or it won't. You never know with nerves, he says. > >As far as my poor Shadow goes, two separate people have now told me there's >no frame damage, so it looks like it's repairable. And I even told one of >the guys (a co-worker at the dealership) to total it if he could. The blue >book value on it is just over $6400, and the damage adds up to about $4300, >so it's well under the "totalled" range for the insurance company. Now >it's down to arguing over little things. State Farm wants it returned to >stock and I want my after-market stuff replaced as-was. Good thing I kept >all the receipts. I want a new helmet added to the claim, State Farm says >the helmet is my responsibility. I reckon we'll see who wins. > >And yes, I'm still planning on suing the old lady's ass. > >I'm pretty bored most of the time, but the Playstation my friends got me >helps pass the time. I mostly play Road Rash (motorcycle racing), Triple >Play '99 (baseball), Descent "Maximum", and Rally Cross (dirt-car racing). >Too much fun! > >Thanks again, everybody, for everything. Phone calls, visits, cards, >e-mails, all of it has helped keep my spirits up. I'm real tired of having >a broken leg, but it's nearing the stage when I'll almost be able to walk >like a human again. Or is that walk like an Egyptian...? I should even be >"allowed" to return to the office a few days a week in 2 or 3 weeks. > >--wes > >PS To my friends whom I Bcc:'d on this, I apologize for the impersonal mass >mailing, but I'm only "allowed" to sit at the computer for a little while >each day. If you guys reply to this e-mail, please make sure my e-mail >addy makes it into the To field, as I sent this to my motorcycle mailing >list and Bcc'd y'all. >Neighbor of The Beast >http://shadow.newspeak.org/ >wes@XXXXXX >Ex-'96 Shadow "Ghetto Sled" >'78 CB750 "Extra Sled" >SOHC/4 #1017 VJMC #1884 >SCRC #11001 VA State Officer _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 6 23:20:28 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01051 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:20:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX (540) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2ELWa14855 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9dca2631.248c9454@aol.com> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:19:48 EDT Subject: Re: Medical/Bike Update & Poker Run &Post-poker-ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Wow! I remember Wes; I think he was at Todd's when we had the last big get-together. Nice guy; bummer about that spill, that sounds like a nasty one. Ken did a good job of summing up the Poker run, (nice to finally put a name to the face!), and initially, I did win a $50 gift certificate to some Harley dealer in Manassas. Just prior to my winning, a very Harley oriented gentleman happened to win a $70 certificate to Tuscarora Mill restaurant in Leesburg, which is my favorite. I tracked down said gentleman and proceeded to enact an exchange. We both walked away happy. After the ride, I put together a little ride with some of the guys I had met. Two were fellow listers, Chris Weaver ('98 Superhawk) and Paresh Karandikar, ("Par", '95 RF900), and the other gentleman I met there, Lor, Jeff and Phil. ('99 Blackbird, '98 YZF600, '95 GPZ1100). >From Leesburg we went: Old Rt. 7 to Rt.9, Rt. 9 to Hillsboro, Hillsboro road to Purcellville, 690 (pville) to Snickersville, Snickersville to Airmont rd. Airmont rd. to 7, 7 to 601 (!), 601 to 50, 50 east to 688. 688 was LONG, BEAUTIFUL, and twisty with EXCELLENT road conditions all the way into Warrenton. At some point we turned onto another road that brought us into town, right past Fauquier High School. AWESOME ride. We did pizza at a hole-in-the wall Italian place on 29 north. (Spitony's: good pizza) All in all, a good group a guys and some nice roads. Failry brisk place too! ;) I ended the day about 26 miles short of 4,000 miles on the bike since I bought it in March. Yummy weekend, I must say. -Sean Jordan '93 CRB1000F From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 7 07:27:27 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA09507 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with ESMTP id HAA02549 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990607072642.00ae61d0@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 07:28:35 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: web page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi folks, I was bored a few days ago and noticed that the existing dc-cycles web page is a little, well, plain. So I took a whopping 10 or so minutes and put something together. It's just a template to give you a feel for what it could look like. Let me know if you're interested. http://www.ocston.org/~granth/dcc ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://ussales/granth From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 7 08:02:51 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10083 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A4E760F0032; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 08:02:47 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990607075925.01319a00@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 08:01:05 -0400 To: Mike T , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Disappointment In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990606221025.009d8c90@mail.troutman.org> References: <19990606230355.85224.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:14 PM 6/6/99 , Mike T wrote: >Well, I just watched an hour long program on TLC promoting Harley Davidson >motorcycles, cleverly titled 'The Secret History of Bikers'. With a title >like that, you might think that they would talk about different brands of >bikes, styles, etc. Nope. They best they did was a 10 second shot of an >old Honda ad titled 'You meet the nicest people on a Honda'. Thing looked >like a moped. > >Anyway - if anyone else tuned in to TLC, or was thinking of catching it, >don't bother. Unless you are interested in Harley and Indian history that >is..... Yeah, I saw some of that. I had no idea that H-D's were the culmination of all things American, that the motorcycling experience was available only on an H-D, that there were few if any other motorcycles in the world ... etc, etc, etc. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 7 08:38:42 1999 Return-Path: SuazoT@XXXXXX Received: from seg-pdc.seg-inc.com (mail.seg-inc.com [207.96.22.190]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10673 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:38:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.seg-inc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:36:38 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Suazo, Tony" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Harley Jerk at Rolling Thunder Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:14:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain My cousin and I went up 211 and had lunch on the other side of the mountain. Two couples sat next to us who were fresh off their Harley bikes. One of the guys was bitchin' and moanin' about the "crotch rockets" going up and down the mountain swerving in and out of traffic, using up two lanes, and yadda yadda yadda. My cousin and I looked at each other sort of laughing to ourselves. Then, I ask the guy, "How's it going? What are you guys up to?" His reply, "Not too bad. How about yourself?". I said, "Not too bad. I'm just going up and down the mountain on my crotch rocket." Everybody started to laugh. We exchanged some stories, and then my cousin and I were on our way back over 211. Tony "I'll wave at any motorcyclist" Suazo CBR600 F3 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 7 08:51:59 1999 Return-Path: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA11074 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:51:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 85256789.00466918 ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:49:04 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: Chris Norloff cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256789.0045D5D8.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:48:58 -0400 Subject: Re: Disappointment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline When I was watching it, I kept thinking how much better the show would be if they would simply change the words "Harley Davidson" to the word "motorcycle". Steve Beck >>Yeah, I saw some of that. I had no idea that H-D's were the culmination of all things American, that the motorcycling experience was available only on an H-D, that there were few if any other motorcycles in the world ... etc, etc, etc.<< From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 7 10:28:04 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA13209 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:28:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with ESMTP id KAA14656; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:17:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990607102229.00ad7680@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 10:24:56 -0400 To: C J <900rrmofo@XXXXXX> From: Grant Heffernan Subject: Re: web page Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yup, mine's the SV. Like I said, it's just a template, I have no idea if there's any real interest, and I don't really want to host another web site, but I'd be happy to complete the development then ship it off to whoever wants to host it so they can publish it. So is anyone riding this weekend??? I finally rolled over 1000 miles last weekend. At 07:12 AM 6/7/99 -0700, C J wrote: >Grant, > >Is this the Grant from Saturday's ride..? >Red Sv650 ?? > >Nice little page.... >What else are your plans for it ?? >--- >Craig >99 RR > > > >On Mon, 07 Jun 1999 07:28:35 Grant Heffernan wrote: > >Hi folks, > >I was bored a few days ago and noticed that the existing dc-cycles web page > >is a little, well, plain. > >So I took a whopping 10 or so minutes and put something together. It's > >just a template to give you a feel for what it could look like. Let me > >know if you're interested. > >http://www.ocston.org/~granth/dcc > > > > > >********************************* > >Grant M. Heffernan > >Field Systems Engineer > >The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. > >Reston, VA 20191 > >ph: (703) 715-8721 > >http://ussales/granth > > > > > > > > >Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com >Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://ussales/granth From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 7 10:52:02 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA13705 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id KAA15638; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:45:54 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id KAA00522; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:51:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:51:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Fwd: Medical/Bike Update In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990606222321.009dbac0@mail.troutman.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Speaking of accidents, my housemate Jaime witnessed a guy smacking into a left turning Taurus at approx. 50mph on Rt 7 on Saturday. She says that his Arai helmet was completely cracked down the back and that his leather jacket was shredded. Jaime stayed and provided assistance and luckily there was a nurse on hand also to help out. From her description of the accident it appears that the rider had been riding a late model Katana. I had signed Jaime up to take the MSF course this summer but after this accident she is having second thoughts. If anyone would like to send her a note of thanks for stopping to help and injured rider and perhaps some encouragement regarding the MSF course she can be reached at Jamie_Koepsell@XXXXXX . Lets be careful out there, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 7 12:00:27 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14974 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:00:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (web305.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.187]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA26186 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:47:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990607154731.9107.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web305.yahoomail.com; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 08:47:31 PDT Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:47:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: web page To: Grant Heffernan Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Grant Heffernan wrote: > Yup, mine's the SV. Like I said, it's just a template, I have no idea if > there's any real interest, and I don't really want to host another web > site, but I'd be happy to complete the development then ship it off to > whoever wants to host it so they can publish it. > So is anyone riding this weekend??? I finally rolled over 1000 miles last > weekend. Join us for the Capitol 1000 (http://www.cap1000.org) this weekend and you'll put on another 1000 miles Saturday - Sunday. 8^) Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 7 12:23:58 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15399 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:23:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA06322 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id MAA17916; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:17:50 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id MAA11336; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:23:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: "Louis F. Caplan" cc: Grant Heffernan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: web page In-Reply-To: <19990607154731.9107.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it still possible to participate? The webpage says you have to register by April 15! Looking to go on a long ride, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Louis F. Caplan wrote: > --- Grant Heffernan wrote: > > Yup, mine's the SV. Like I said, it's just a template, I have no idea if > > there's any real interest, and I don't really want to host another web > > site, but I'd be happy to complete the development then ship it off to > > whoever wants to host it so they can publish it. > > So is anyone riding this weekend??? I finally rolled over 1000 miles last > > weekend. > > Join us for the Capitol 1000 (http://www.cap1000.org) this weekend and you'll > put on another 1000 miles Saturday - Sunday. 8^) > > Louis > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 7 12:32:21 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15638 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id MAA07030; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:32:16 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id MAA05969; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:32:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Thanks for mailing Jaime Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I want to thank all of you who have emailed my housemate. She is quite pleased and has assured me that she will still take the MSF course. However the outpouring of support is flooding her inbox and she's afraid of getting in trouble at work so if you haven't emailed yet please don't. Too much of a good thing, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 7 12:33:46 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15648 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:33:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA09268 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: web page In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.56.19990607102229.00ad7680@fedsco.sco.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Grant Heffernan wrote: > So is anyone riding this weekend??? I finally rolled over 1000 miles > last weekend. You're welcome to join me in the GA/TN/NC mountains this weekend... You're SV would be especially welcome at the Hawk GT rally down there: http://members.nova.org/~kirk/echr/echr.htm Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:15:29 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00666 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:15:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.106]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA24138 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by dfw7sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgssp19466 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:54:02 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8525678A.005207C4 ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:55:59 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525678A.0052068D.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:45:30 -0400 Subject: I Guess I'm Strange... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline but I HATE this hot weather. I do not like riding in it and I think it sucks. Gimmee fall/winter riding! - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:19:58 1999 Return-Path: OsbornKev@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00883 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:19:45 -0400 (EDT) From: OsbornKev@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA28197 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from OsbornKev@XXXXXX (8063) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id xPLNa08283; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:08:36 EDT Subject: Re: web page To: granth@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Good to see someone taking some initiative to make the web site look inviting. Couple of comments. 1. I noticed that not all the content of the original page is there. Like how to sign up for the e-mail list. 2. When using frames and transferring to a new site I find it very annoying when transferring to an external web page yet the transferring site leaves its original frame up and there is much less room for the new page. Ex. Link to Sport Riders off the links page. It is preferred just to send the browser to the new page. We all know where the back button is. 3. Not crazy about the pink letters on black background. - KO In a message dated 6/7/99 7:32:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, granth@XXXXXX writes: << Subj: web page Date: 6/7/99 7:32:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: granth@XXXXXX (Grant Heffernan) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Hi folks, I was bored a few days ago and noticed that the existing dc-cycles web page is a little, well, plain. So I took a whopping 10 or so minutes and put something together. It's just a template to give you a feel for what it could look like. Let me know if you're interested. http://www.ocston.org/~granth/dcc From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:18:15 1999 Return-Path: lmeyer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00816 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:17:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.MGFairfax.rr.com (fe2.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.49]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA05124 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:51:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mgfairfax.rr.com ([24.28.195.247]) by mail2.MGFairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:49:54 -0400 Message-ID: <375D042A.6475E797@mgfairfax.rr.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 07:53:15 -0400 From: Larry Meyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: [Fwd: Suzuki/non bandit] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------191DF936EB646426F89FA5F0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------191DF936EB646426F89FA5F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------191DF936EB646426F89FA5F0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from www.mcf.com ([165.254.158.31]) by mail1.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:06:53 -0400 Received: from liststar.mcf.com (165.254.158.3) by www.mcf.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0a6); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:10:44 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:09:46 -0400 Message-Id: <005901beb19f$6c2a9900$a71b24cf@rgill> From: "R Gillett" Subject: Suzuki/non bandit To: "Bandit list" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-to: bandit-talk@XXXXXX Errors-to: bandit-talk-request@XXXXXX X-No-Archive: Yes Restrict: no-external-archive Return-Path: bandit-talk@XXXXXX X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 My brother has a 99 GSXR750, he received a recall the other day, it said DO NOT RIDE YOUR MOTORCYCLE, bring it in for service. The timing chain tensioner is faulty and can break. I thought maybe some listers might be riding with some 99 gixers, and maybe they have not heard about the recall. Randy in Lakeland --------------191DF936EB646426F89FA5F0-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:21:04 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00967 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id SAA10955 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990607221310.26891.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.7.100] by web301.yahoomail.com; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 15:13:10 PDT Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:13:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Crashing sucks.... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii But at least I wasn't the one crashing this weekend ;-) Actually, all of DC-Cycles Racing that showed up did well. Jeff Ozmen took an official 2nd place (he was really in first, but that's a long story... WERA screwed him). Brian Roach got some experience on his new FZR400 (even some agricultural racing ;-)). And then there's me..... Before the first practice session, I had never even seen a layout of the course on paper...all I had heard was that it is very bumpy... UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE CENTURY!!!! It was worse than MD back roads out in Frederick County!! During the first session, I was thinking that I would never be able to go fast here and was feeling a bit bummed.. then I fell in behind a few guys who obviously been there before....that helped some... second practice session was more of the same with times getting better... By the third session I was down to 1:15 lap times, which I was told was darn good for someone never seeing the course before...and on shagged tires..and on an aging 600... Anywho...Saturdays solo race I was gridded pretty much near the back. Got my trademark great start, but Nelson's is very tight and not a lot of places to pass...moved into 4th fairly quickly then got stuck there by a guy that was just fast enough not to get around easily... by the 6th lap I had passed him and started trying to eat away the big gap between me and the two leaders...finally caught up to them and was plotting how to get around them, when suddenly the bike chugs hard in turn one...almost as if I turned the key off or something... then returns to normal... two turns later it completely dies and I have to pull off the course.... At first I thought I had blown the motor.. but at the end of the day when they allowed us on course to get the bike, I instantly see the problem... the bikes black box was hanging by two wires...the rest had been ripped completely out of the plug!!. Got that fixed and found a new gasket for an oil leak. Sunday was better, although I was seriously concerned about the well over worn tires...C superbike I was gridded at the back of the second wave..great start, worked up to 5th place, but got passed by a couple of guys and finished 7th. Formula 1 was great!!! Decent grid, decent start, quickly worked into thrird which I held most of the race...two guys got around me on the 5th lap, one of which I passed right back.. the other was a friend who pitted next to us.. we had a wheel to wheel battle the rest of the race.. on the last lap I set a new best (for there) of 1:14.72...(experts ran 1:11's, track record at 1:09.??) Dennis held a very tight line through turn 13, but I got a great drive down low too... it looked like I was going to pull it off, but his kawi 750 had just enough grunt to beat me by a wheel.. B superbike was uneventful... I worked up to 5th place and lost sight of the front 4, and was all by my lonesome...no one behind me for a long way.. so I settled into a rut and just worked on consistency and not crashing. Turns out one of the front 4 crashed, so I bumped up to 4th!! cool... All in all a very rewarding weekend....I can't wait to get back there again on my 750 with fresh tires! Speaking of the 750, I dropped it off with GMD Computrak, so tomorrow I'll know what the damage is and a rough cost.... scary thing is that the shop owner knew me by name when I showed up...not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing... :) Collin next race: Summit Point, June 19-20...WERA === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:16:04 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00688 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id KAA10883 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 10:04:50 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 10:04:45 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 10:02:40 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: asilbers@XXXXXX, sclay@XXXXXX, billw@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cindy_bruno@XXXXXX, scott_beck@XXXXXX Subject: New Rider Announcement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Fellow bikers, It is with great pride that I announce that my wife and best friend, Amy L. Nagy, has passed the MSF new rider school and will soon join the ranks of licensed motorcyclists. And since none of my current bikes are appropriate to her size and/or experience level, it seems the Nagys have entered the market for yet another bike, probably 250-ish, DP-ish (Damn, I just hate riding those). You may offer congrats at nagya@XXXXXX. And hey, MSF instructors--what's with this "two fingers on the brake lever causes cancer, blindness, pestilence and floods" stuff? Joe From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:18:47 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00836 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:18:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA21341 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 06:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with ESMTP id GAA05071; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 06:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990608065449.00aeb010@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 06:57:21 -0400 To: OsbornKev@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: Re: web page In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed TIME OUT Folks... What I put up was a template, like I said. Not all the original content is there because, guess what, it's a template. The frames are easily changed, along with colors, so if you've suggestions, let me know. At 07:08 PM 6/7/99 -0400, OsbornKev@XXXXXX wrote: >Good to see someone taking some initiative to make the web site look >inviting. Couple of comments. > >1. I noticed that not all the content of the original page is there. Like >how to sign up for the e-mail list. >2. When using frames and transferring to a new site I find it very annoying >when transferring to an external web page yet the transferring site leaves >its original frame up and there is much less room for the new page. Ex. Link >to Sport Riders off the links page. It is preferred just to send the browser >to the new page. We all know where the back button is. >3. Not crazy about the pink letters on black background. > > - KO > >In a message dated 6/7/99 7:32:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, granth@XXXXXX >writes: > ><< Subj: web page > Date: 6/7/99 7:32:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From: granth@XXXXXX (Grant Heffernan) > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Hi folks, > I was bored a few days ago and noticed that the existing dc-cycles web page > is a little, well, plain. > So I took a whopping 10 or so minutes and put something together. It's > just a template to give you a feel for what it could look like. Let me > know if you're interested. > http://www.ocston.org/~granth/dcc > ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://ussales/granth From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:17:27 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00806 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:16:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA07639 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:54:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id JAA00881; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:51:27 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from voyager.concentric.net (voyager [206.173.119.82]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id JAA02748; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:51:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: test ignore EOM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:10:46 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15648 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:33:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA09268 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: web page In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.56.19990607102229.00ad7680@fedsco.sco.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Grant Heffernan wrote: > So is anyone riding this weekend??? I finally rolled over 1000 miles > last weekend. You're welcome to join me in the GA/TN/NC mountains this weekend... You're SV would be especially welcome at the Hawk GT rally down there: http://members.nova.org/~kirk/echr/echr.htm Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:16:44 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00742; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA12048; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from njb140r1.ems.att.com ([135.65.202.58]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id KAA28356; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from njb140bh2.ems.att.com by njb140r1.ems.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/ATTEMS-1.4.1 sol2) id KAA24192; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by njb140bh2.ems.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:08:54 -0400 Message-ID: <9FE88F6AE3C1D211AE530000C0E871EE3B54E8@vae820po01.nova.att.com> From: "Crishock, Richard M, BGM" To: "'DCC'" Cc: "'dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX'" Subject: 6 June digest? Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:08:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain I didn't get a digest for yesterday. What's up? I know it's warm, but EVERYBODY can't be out riding ;) From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:19:13 1999 Return-Path: dankenney@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00867 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:19:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f155.hotmail.com [207.82.251.34]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id WAA11027 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:29:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27507 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jun 1999 02:28:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990608022856.27506.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.122.196.221 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 19:28:55 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.122.196.221] From: DAN KENNEY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Sunday Ride? Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 19:28:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I'am all freed up now. Anybody planning any rides for Sunday? Dan Kenney Red 1997 Suzuki TL1000s _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:19:38 1999 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00870 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA26325 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:35:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (a0176.chantilly.mns.net [206.239.104.208]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA24138 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <375C9EA2.78BE@mnsinc.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 21:40:02 -0700 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: No digest today? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Dc Guys & Gals, Whoa, no digest mode today? JK From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:19:05 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00848 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA27875 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id XAA20292; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:27:02 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from voyager.concentric.net (voyager [206.173.119.82]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id XAA21501; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:33:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Wolfman luggage Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering if anyone on the list has used Wolfman luggage and if so how did you like it? I'm particularly interested in hearing about the Wolfman Saddle bags. Thanks, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:21:53 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00973 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA29331 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:40:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AFFE8B3007A; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 15:39:42 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990607151229.01294040@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 15:14:06 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Disappointment -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:01 PM 6/7/99 , JOE NAGY wrote: >This is typical, folks. I've noticed that whenever the "straight" press >covers a topic which I know intimately (bikes, martial arts, fishing, >competitve swimming, advertising, whatever), the thoroughness, accuracy >and overall tone of the piece is invariably CRAP. > >Unfortunately, mediocrity rules. True, indeed. There's also the factor of where the production money comes from. It seems pretty clear that that show was largely or completely funded by Harley. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:22:15 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01022 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA18196 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:59:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 14:57:00 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 14:56:57 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 12:01:37 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Disappointment -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline This is typical, folks. I've noticed that whenever the "straight" press covers a topic which I know intimately (bikes, martial arts, fishing, competitve swimming, advertising, whatever), the thoroughness, accuracy and overall tone of the piece is invariably CRAP. Unfortunately, mediocrity rules. Joe From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:22:40 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01028 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA17843 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com (corp23.kivex.com [208.213.150.23]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.8-KIVEX) with SMTP id OAA11231 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990607144854.0068c6c4@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 14:48:54 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: New Bike! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well kids, Jay and I took a little trip up to New Jersey and picked me up a '95 VFR 750. It's real nice looking in arrest-me red. I got insurance on it today and plan on having tags on it in time for the weekend. Does anybody know the ins and outs of transferring tags off of one bike on to another in the state of Maryland. Both bikes are currently insured. Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:40:46 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15638 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id MAA07030; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:32:16 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id MAA05969; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:32:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Thanks for mailing Jaime Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I want to thank all of you who have emailed my housemate. She is quite pleased and has assured me that she will still take the MSF course. However the outpouring of support is flooding her inbox and she's afraid of getting in trouble at work so if you haven't emailed yet please don't. Too much of a good thing, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 12:58:15 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03375 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA01870 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:58:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:58:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: New Rider Announcement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, JOE NAGY wrote: > It is with great pride that I announce that my wife and best friend, > Amy L. Nagy, has passed the MSF new rider school and will soon join the > ranks of licensed motorcyclists. Congrats! My wife's MSF course is in mid-July... > And since none of my current bikes are appropriate to her size and/or > experience level, it seems the Nagys have entered the market for yet > another bike, probably 250-ish, DP-ish (Damn, I just hate riding those). That's a terrible shame! I'm attempting to talk my wife into an XR100 and some dirt riding before we pick her up a street bike. It's too bad the little XR will be completely inappropriate for me to ride... ;) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 13:02:30 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03498 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:02:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA29358 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw2a.lmco.com (mailgw2a.lmco.com [192.91.147.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17030 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:02:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss03g01.ems.lmco.com (emss03g01.orl.lmco.com [141.240.4.144]) by mailgw2a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07046; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38331) id <0FD000101PZHQO@XXXXXX>; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss09m01.ems.lmco.com ([158.183.24.5]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38331) with ESMTP id <0FD0005GJPZ2N3@XXXXXX>; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:01:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by emss09m01.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:03:42 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:01:44 -0400 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: Welcome to the Ranks! To: "'nagya@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Message-id: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655FCC@emss09m05.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Amy, Congrats fellow bike riding wife! As for a 250 - you'll probably out grow it too fast - should get at least of 400 - speaking of which - my dad has a '82 Kawasaki 440 LTD for sale - nice running, belt driven - perfect beginner's bike. If you're even remotely interested, let me know, he'll be happy to let you take it for a test ride. Congrats again - there's nothing like passing the hubby on the highway on your own ride :)o - tongue sticking out Tracy Tracy L. Horstman UNIX System Administrator Lockheed Martin Enterprise Information Systems 9255 Wellington Rd. Manassas, VA 20110 Voice: (703) 367-2981 Fax: (703) 367-1389 Pager: (800) 404-3758 E-mail: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 13:04:10 1999 Return-Path: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03534 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:04:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw2a.lmco.com (mailgw2a.lmco.com [192.91.147.7]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA29802 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:04:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss03g01.ems.lmco.com (emss03g01.orl.lmco.com [141.240.4.144]) by mailgw2a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28454 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38331) id <0FD000101Q2DUV@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:03:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss09m01.ems.lmco.com ([158.183.24.5]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38331) with ESMTP id <0FD000N11Q2AUH@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by emss09m01.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:05:38 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:03:42 -0400 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: RE: I Guess I'm Strange... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655FCD@emss09m05.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT You know those little blue ice paks - put them in the freezer, then insert into the inside pockets of the leather jacket - and poof! air conditioning. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX [SMTP:Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 10:46 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: I Guess I'm Strange... > > > > but I HATE this hot weather. I do not like riding in it and I think it > sucks. > Gimmee fall/winter riding! > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 13:14:10 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03930 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with ESMTP id NAA00257 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990608131341.00a36450@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:14:09 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: 211 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Anyone know if there's an exit for 211 off of 66 west (coming from the reston area)? ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://ussales/granth From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 13:15:42 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04017 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:15:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02313 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:15:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... In-Reply-To: <8525678A.0052068D.00@172.16.2.37> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > but I HATE this hot weather. I do not like riding in it and I think it > sucks. Gimmee fall/winter riding! Some people have a rain bike (e.g., a car) or a winter bike (again, a car) but I have a summer bike (yes, a car). I drove in today and cranked the AC the whole way. I could just about become a 3 season rider (fall, winter, spring) and still be happy. This, of course, will do nothing to help avoid people assuming you're strange. I'm certifiably weird myself... Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 13:16:07 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04027 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA03273 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:16:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AFBC1BD0188; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:15:43 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990608125552.013585a0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:01:08 -0400 To: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: New Rider Announcement In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:02 AM 6/8/99 , JOE NAGY wrote: >And hey, MSF instructors--what's with this "two fingers on the brake >lever causes cancer, blindness, pestilence and floods" stuff? It can be helpful in some cases, but can cause coordination problems and lack of braking in other cases. When teaching students how to hold their hands and how to smoothly coordinate the clutch and throttle, it can be much harder if they won't keep all 4 fingers on the throttle (by keeping 2 fingers on the brake lever). Many bikes can't be smoothly and controllably braked with just 2 fingers. In addition, any softness in the brake systems can allow the lever to come far enough back to pinch the fingers on the throttle and to eliminate any further braking. If you can lock the front wheel using only 2 fingers on the brake lever then you have enough power. If you can smoothly control the front brake from light braking to impending-lockup with just 2 fingers then you have enough control. Me, I prefer to use 4 fingers on the throttle or 4 fingers on the throttle, it's just a matter of control. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 13:16:12 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04037 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:16:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA03337 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:16:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AFBF1BD0188; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:15:43 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990608125421.01339aa0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 12:55:03 -0400 To: "Lisa S. Goddard" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: New Bike! In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990607144854.0068c6c4@kivex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:48 PM 6/7/99 , Lisa S. Goddard wrote: >Does anybody know the ins and outs of transferring tags off of one bike on >to another in the state of Maryland. Both bikes are currently insured. When I tried to switch tags in Maryland they absolutely refused. I think it has something to do with insurance and taxes. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 13:17:46 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04152 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:17:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.3]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA03714 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:17:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA00787; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:16:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv12-57.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.185) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma000727; Tue Jun 8 12:15:37 1999 Message-ID: <001301beb1d2$17efe9c0$b95e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: , References: <8525678A.0052068D.00@172.16.2.37> Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:12:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Nah your not strange at all, at least in this regard anyway ;), My = favorite riding is when its cool enough to bundle up in the winter = Riding Suit, and Go out looking more like am astronaut than a = motorcyclist. =20 Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 10:45 AM Subject: I Guess I'm Strange... >=20 >=20 > but I HATE this hot weather. I do not like riding in it and I think = it sucks. > Gimmee fall/winter riding! >=20 > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 13:23:22 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04372 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A16D36370078; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:22:53 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990608132032.0134e1f0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:22:44 -0400 To: Grant Heffernan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: 211 In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.56.19990608131341.00a36450@fedsco.sco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:14 PM 6/8/99 , Grant Heffernan wrote: >Anyone know if there's an exit for 211 off of 66 west (coming from the >reston area)? Yes, it's the Rte 29 exit. You'll have to go down to Warrenton before you see official signs for Rte 211. It used to be that what's now called 29 was called 29/211. In fact, between Camp Washington and Fairfax Circle it was called 29/211/50 (now it's just 29/50). Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 13:26:20 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04397 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02573 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:26:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: New Bike! In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990607144854.0068c6c4@kivex.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Lisa S. Goddard wrote: > Jay and I took a little trip up to New Jersey and picked me up a '95 > VFR 750. Great, another one of those !@#$ Hondas! > Does anybody know the ins and outs of transferring tags off of one > bike on to another in the state of Maryland. Both bikes are currently > insured. There's a spot for it on the form(s) you fill out. Simple. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 13:48:12 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05367 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:48:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA11966 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:48:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:52:07 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC96A@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: New Bike! Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:44:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Lisa, Having just gone through this, I can tell you the following: You CAN transfer tags from one bike to another, but ONLY if you've disposed of the original bike. It either has to have been junked, destroyed or sold to someone else. If the bike has been sold or transferred to another person, they want the name and address of that person. When you go to the MVA, you need to let them know that you want to transfer the tags fairly early in the process. There is an additional form you have to fill out. You can't just take the tag off of a bike that you own and transfer it. You can cancel the insurance on a bike you own, and turn in the tag, but you can't transfer the tag unless you actually dispose of the bike. Go figure... Perry > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa S. Goddard [SMTP:Lisa@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 2:49 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: New Bike! > > Well kids, > > Jay and I took a little trip up to New Jersey and picked me up a '95 VFR > 750. It's real nice looking in arrest-me red. I got insurance on it > today > and plan on having tags on it in time for the weekend. > > Does anybody know the ins and outs of transferring tags off of one bike on > to another in the state of Maryland. Both bikes are currently insured. > > > Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist > Kivex.com > Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 13:51:53 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05467 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:51:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA12874 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:51:13 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:51:12 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:49:15 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: cnorloff@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New Rider Announcement -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I understand that new riders shouldn't have to deal with the two-fingers thing while learning, but she was told "Never ever should anyone ride like that on the street, never, ever, not your husband, not Jesus or Eddie Lawson or anyone." Well, bull. The issue isn't whether you can physically stop with two fingers--on some bikes you can do it with one--the issue is having your fingers on the lever right now, ready for action when some chucklehead mommyvan pilot busts a move in front of you. With two fingers covering the brake lever, you're braking a fraction of a second and who-knows-how-many precious feet sooner--time and distance that you can never get back. To say this technique is "always wrong" simply defies my comprehension. On the other hand, stopping my '68 ElectraGlide requires two hands, two feet, two buttcheeks, a parachute, a boat anchor and prayers offered to three major deities. =>:-O Joe From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 13:53:53 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05506 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:53:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.114]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA13589 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:53:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by wodc7mr0.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgstb00691; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:52:59 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8525678A.00626B20 ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:54:59 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Lisa S. Goddard" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525678A.00626A32.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:44:29 -0400 Subject: Re: New Bike! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Woo hoo! Congrats, Lisa! Red's my fave color, too! : ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Lisa S. Goddard" on 06/07/99 02:48:54 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: New Bike! Well kids, Jay and I took a little trip up to New Jersey and picked me up a '95 VFR 750. It's real nice looking in arrest-me red. I got insurance on it today and plan on having tags on it in time for the weekend. Does anybody know the ins and outs of transferring tags off of one bike on to another in the state of Maryland. Both bikes are currently insured. Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 13:55:01 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.114]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05523 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:55:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by wodc7mr0.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgstb02159; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:54:46 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8525678A.006291EA ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:56:38 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: Kirk Roy cc: DC-Cycles Mailing List Message-ID: <8525678A.00629177.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:45:56 -0400 Subject: Re: New Rider Announcement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Yay!!! Let's hear it for the wives! Go girls! I started out on a VF500, myself. I loved it! - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Kirk Roy on 06/08/99 12:58:04 PM To: DC-Cycles Mailing List cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: New Rider Announcement On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, JOE NAGY wrote: > It is with great pride that I announce that my wife and best friend, > Amy L. Nagy, has passed the MSF new rider school and will soon join the > ranks of licensed motorcyclists. Congrats! My wife's MSF course is in mid-July... > And since none of my current bikes are appropriate to her size and/or > experience level, it seems the Nagys have entered the market for yet > another bike, probably 250-ish, DP-ish (Damn, I just hate riding those). That's a terrible shame! I'm attempting to talk my wife into an XR100 and some dirt riding before we pick her up a street bike. It's too bad the little XR will be completely inappropriate for me to ride... ;) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 14:01:58 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA05757 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:01:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:00:03 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:59:54 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:57:56 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, kirk@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I actually enjoy coming into work drenched with sweat, panting, and foaming at the mouth--people tend to leave ya alone. :-) From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 14:08:50 1999 Return-Path: harry@XXXXXX Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA05960 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906081808.OAA05960@meretrix.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles outage Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:08:50 -0400 From: Harry Mantakos The past 24 hours of eerie dc-cycles silence was brought to you courtesy of the Baltimore Gas & Electric Company. The dc-cycles global headquarters data center was without power for a while there, but all systems are online again, scapegoats have been identified, etc., and business is back to usual. For those on the digest list, this digest contains today's and yesterday's postings. -harry From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 14:32:45 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06359 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:32:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user177.anent.com [208.195.115.177]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA07743 for ; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:30:42 -0400 Message-ID: <00a701beb1dd$4b2d47a0$b173c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: My bike on Pit-Bull stands link Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:32:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 My VFR800 at the Pit-Bull web site. http://www.pit-bull.com/yourbike.html Woohoo! From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 14:34:21 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06389 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38416) with ESMTP id <0FD000CAYU7RPM@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:33:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta03.mcit.com (omzmta03.mcit.com [166.37.194.121]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id SAA11804; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:31:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta03.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990608183145.WEKI985@toddnt>; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:31:45 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:29:18 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: 211 In-reply-to: <4.1.19990608132032.0134e1f0@mail.toward.com> To: Chris Norloff , Grant Heffernan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000901beb1dc$d225d9d0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Or for an even more boring exit: 66w to 81s, left on 211e over New Market GAp, and Thornton Gap. But who the hell wants boring. Go 66w to exit 27, Marshall, then left over the bridge to the next right onto sr647. Sr647 to us522 in Flint Hill, go left then next right onto sr641 into Washington and continue until you run into 211. Go right, and you are less than 8 miles from the Skyline Pkway. This is the preferred route for those who hate to just drone along. Todd > > At 01:14 PM 6/8/99 , Grant Heffernan wrote: > >Anyone know if there's an exit for 211 off of 66 west (coming from the > >reston area)? > > > Yes, it's the Rte 29 exit. You'll have to go down to Warrenton before you > see official signs for Rte 211. > > It used to be that what's now called 29 was called 29/211. In fact, > between Camp Washington and Fairfax Circle it was called 29/211/50 (now > it's just 29/50). > > > Chris Norloff > Falls Church, Virginia > 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 14:38:10 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06548 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.216.182]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA25720 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA02372 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:38:05 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma002370; Tue, 8 Jun 99 14:37:59 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990608143411.009d2100@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:37:47 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... In-Reply-To: <8525678A.0052068D.00@172.16.2.37> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:45 AM 6/8/99 -0400, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: >but I HATE this hot weather. I do not like riding in it and I think it sucks. >Gimmee fall/winter riding! I have gone into squid mode. Yesterday and today I wore pants and t-shirt - no jacket. Today I am off work, but I plan more squidliness tomorrow. I am not comfortable riding without my jacket, but I am willing to risk road rash in exchange for heat exhaustion at the lights. At least until it drops back down below 90 again. Compared to the heat in my black jacket, I am sure I can take your flames ;-) _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 14:43:00 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06685 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) with ESMTP id <0FD0006VLUM8E2@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:42:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta03.mcit.com (omzmta03.mcit.com [166.37.194.121]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id SAA23010; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:41:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta03.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990608184207.WGOJ985@toddnt>; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:42:07 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:39:41 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: New Bike! In-reply-to: To: Kirk Roy , DC-Cycles Mailing List Message-id: <000a01beb1de$44f697a0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal > -----Original Message----- > From: Kirk Roy [mailto:kirk@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 1:26 PM > To: DC-Cycles Mailing List > Subject: Re: New Bike! > > > On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Lisa S. Goddard wrote: > > Jay and I took a little trip up to New Jersey and picked me up a '95 > > VFR 750. > > Great, another one of those !@#$ Hondas! > I just got a copy, on the suggestion of an HSTA lister, of "Honda's V-Force : The Four-Stroke V4s on Road and Track", by Jim Ryder. So Far So Good. If you're a fan of the V-Fours and it's history, this is a great coffee table book. It has some fantastic colorful pictures ranging from the NR 0x to the mini-magnas. I've been through the first two chapters and am impressed with the writing style and information portrayed. So, for all you HONDA FANS of V-Fours, this is a good one (Amazon has it for $20.97) Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 14:44:51 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06718 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay03.mcit.com (omzrelay03.mcit.com [199.249.19.245]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA20223 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:17:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com ([166.37.172.6]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38418) with ESMTP id <0FD000B6YTGFF6@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:17:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta03.mcit.com (omzmta03.mcit.com [166.37.194.121]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id SAA07292; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:12:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta03.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990608181631.WBPW985@toddnt>; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:16:31 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:14:04 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Crashing sucks.... In-reply-to: <19990607221310.26891.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> To: "Collin T. Fagan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000701beb1da$b135c2f0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Nice write up Collin. Sounds as if DC-Cycles is well represented at NL. Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Collin T. Fagan [mailto:gixer_racer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 6:13 PM > > But at least I wasn't the one crashing this weekend ;-) > Actually, all of DC-Cycles Racing that showed up did well. Jeff Ozmen > took an official 2nd place (he was really in first, but that's a long > story... WERA screwed him). Brian Roach got some experience on his new > FZR400 (even some agricultural racing ;-)). And then there's me..... > Before the first practice session, I had never even seen a layout of > the course on paper...all I had heard was that it is very bumpy... > UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE CENTURY!!!! From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 14:44:54 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06720 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA22633 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:26:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A05A373B0078; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:26:34 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990608141952.01364340@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:25:05 -0400 To: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: New Rider Announcement -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:49 PM 6/8/99 , JOE NAGY wrote: >I understand that new riders shouldn't have to deal with the two-fingers >thing while learning, but she was told "Never ever should anyone ride >like that on the street, never, ever, not your husband, not Jesus or >Eddie Lawson or anyone." That just shows the ignorance and arrogance of the instructor ... too bad. I don't believe it's part of the MSF curriculum to make a blanket statement about never ever using 2 fingers. One of the biggest problems motorcycle training has is getting instructors to reliably teach the curriculum rather than just their own ideas and prejudices. >Well, bull. The issue isn't whether you can physically stop with two >fingers--on some bikes you can do it with one--the issue is having your >fingers on the lever right now, ready for action when some chucklehead >mommyvan pilot busts a move in front of you. With two fingers covering >the brake lever, you're braking a fraction of a second and >who-knows-how-many precious feet sooner--time and distance that you can >never get back. To say this technique is "always wrong" simply defies >my comprehension. With tailgating such a problem and causing such a high percentage of wrecks, I'm reluctant to merely jam on the brakes. I work hard to position myself so someone can't cut over and reduce my options to only braking hard. >On the other hand, stopping my '68 ElectraGlide requires two hands, two >feet, two buttcheeks, a parachute, a boat anchor and prayers offered to >three major deities. =>:-O :-) Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 15:09:37 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07190 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA04345 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:09:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com (corp23.kivex.com [208.213.150.23]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.8-KIVEX) with SMTP id PAA12255; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990608150342.006b0918@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 15:03:42 -0400 To: Mike T , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990608143411.009d2100@mail.troutman.org> References: <8525678A.0052068D.00@172.16.2.37> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Today I am off work, but I plan more squidliness tomorrow. speaking of squids, I saw two great sqids pull in to MVA this morning to work on getting tested. I really dislike going to MVA and I think that is the last place I would venture in to in Squid mode, shorts and all. Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 15:14:58 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07286 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:14:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA00245 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:52:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: I Guess I'm Strange... Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:52:20 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) That's fine and dandy.. but what the hell am I doing right/wrong that I don't have a problem? I drink a bunch of water at night.. (couple liters) - but nothing really from 5am~5pm. I wear an unvented black leather jacket, black helmet.. riding an air-cooled bike right now... and the worst I get is some sweat. I'm sure as hell not comfortable, but I'm not even approaching heat exhaustion... oh, and if it matters, I'm 230lbs... Sheesh.. I'm used to surviving COLD weather.. not heat.. give me -20dF.... Brian > but I am willing > to risk road > rash in exchange for heat exhaustion at the lights. At least until it > drops back down below 90 again. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 15:18:46 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07380 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA06922 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com ([166.37.172.6]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38416) with ESMTP id <0FD000F8DW7C4V@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:16:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta03.mcit.com (omzmta03.mcit.com [166.37.194.121]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id TAA11613; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 19:11:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta03.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990608191527.WNLR985@toddnt>; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 19:15:27 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 15:13:00 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: I Guess I'm Strange... In-reply-to: <4.1.19990608143411.009d2100@mail.troutman.org> To: Mike T , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000c01beb1e2$ec9203b0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal > I have gone into squid mode. Yesterday and today I wore pants and t-shirt > - no jacket. Today I am off work, but I plan more squidliness > tomorrow. I > am not comfortable riding without my jacket, but I am willing to risk road > rash in exchange for heat exhaustion at the lights. At least until it > drops back down below 90 again. > > Compared to the heat in my black jacket, I am sure I can take > your flames ;-) > > _____________________________________ > Mike Troutman None from me. I packed my jacket away for the ride home from a bicycle shop yesterday evening. Just took it a little easy, and still sweat. Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 15:40:49 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07904 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 8 Jun 1999 22:41:32 UT Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:37 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: I Guess I'm Strange... Message-ID: <19990608133933869-ab427e@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well... I was a big sweetheart and let my wife take the air conditioned car to work while I SUFFERED (stuck in 2 hours worth of traffic just to go 8 miles!) on the VFR. When I got in this morning, it was already 90 deg.! Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... Author: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) Date: 6/8/99 1:15 PM On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > but I HATE this hot weather. I do not like riding in it and I think it > sucks. Gimmee fall/winter riding! Some people have a rain bike (e.g., a car) or a winter bike (again, a car) but I have a summer bike (yes, a car). I drove in today and cranked the AC the whole way. I could just about become a 3 season rider (fall, winter, spring) and still be happy. This, of course, will do nothing to help avoid people assuming you're strange. I'm certifiably weird myself... Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 16:22:50 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08688 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:22:48 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA24718 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:22:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (7810) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vSGWa14487 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9dcfafe8.248ed509@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:20:25 EDT Subject: bikes + internet To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 just out of curiosity - how many of us bikers are also heavily involved in computers and or internet in some fashion? Marcy Rye Honda CB-1 400 Partner [Unable to display image] Graphic Design & Consulting for Print & Web In a message dated 6/8/99 12:38:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Lisa@XXXXXX writes: << Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! >> From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 16:23:36 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08698 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:23:35 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (7810) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2QVAa21481 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:23:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <592522fb.248ed5a4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:23:00 EDT Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 In a message dated 6/8/99 1:22:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kirk@XXXXXX writes: << but I have a summer bike (yes, a car). >> I have to admit, I broke down yesterday when my thermometer which sits in the sun outside, read 105, and took off the jacket and gloves, donned the 3/4 helmet and squidded my way about town ;D Marcy From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 16:29:49 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08789 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:29:48 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (7810) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2WMHa02073 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <63b6b37d.248ed70d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:29:01 EDT Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... -Reply To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 In a message dated 6/8/99 2:08:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, NAGYJ@XXXXXX writes: << I actually enjoy coming into work drenched with sweat, panting, and foaming at the mouth--people tend to leave ya alone. :-) >> two words: baby powder :D I'm sure all you big scary biker dudes are into it! ;D marcy From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 16:32:13 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08893 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA06319 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:30:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: bikes + internet In-Reply-To: <9dcfafe8.248ed509@aol.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > just out of curiosity - how many of us bikers are also heavily involved in > computers and or internet in some fashion? Computers suck... :) Kirk Solaris SysAdmin 98 Honda SuperHawk GT 84 Honda XR350R 80 Honda CB125S From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 16:42:41 1999 Return-Path: Gawthrop@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09107 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:42:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Gawthrop@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA00310 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:42:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Gawthrop@XXXXXX (546) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vFBFa08283; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:40:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1fe7a08d.248ed9c2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:40:34 EDT Subject: Re: bikes + internet To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Depends on the nature of the question: for occupations, it's hard telling. For fooling around on the web, checking sites for runs, rights and recreation, I'd say probably half or more. Bill Gawthrop From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 16:48:01 1999 Return-Path: mullins_john@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09217 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mclean-mail.usae.bah.com (mclean-mail.usae.bah.com [156.80.5.109]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA01885 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bah.com ([156.80.170.53]) by mclean-mail.usae.bah.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA1B36; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:45:27 -0400 Message-ID: <375D801F.823D1ABA@bah.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:42:07 -0400 From: "Mullins John" Organization: BAH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: bikes + internet References: <9dcfafe8.248ed509@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Afraid I am. John Mullins Web Developer Ninja EX500 JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > > just out of curiosity - how many of us bikers are also heavily involved in > computers and or internet in some fashion? > > Marcy Rye > Honda CB-1 400 > Partner > > [Unable to display image] > Graphic Design & Consulting for Print & Web > > In a message dated 6/8/99 12:38:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Lisa@XXXXXX > writes: > > << Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist > Kivex.com > Unlock the power of the Internet! >> > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 16:53:13 1999 Return-Path: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09375 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:53:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw2a.lmco.com (mailgw2a.lmco.com [192.91.147.7]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA03370 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:53:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss03g01.ems.lmco.com (emss03g01.orl.lmco.com [141.240.4.144]) by mailgw2a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04854 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38331) id <0FD100L010NVWZ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:52:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss09m01.ems.lmco.com ([158.183.24.5]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38331) with ESMTP id <0FD100N130NQXW@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by emss09m01.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:54:30 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:52:31 -0400 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: RE: bikes + internet To: "'JinnSinn@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655FD1@emss09m05.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Yep - me UNIX Administrator and Y2K Site Lead Extraordinare! (suck at spelling - must be computer geek) > -----Original Message----- > From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX [SMTP:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 4:20 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: bikes + internet > > just out of curiosity - how many of us bikers are also heavily involved in > > computers and or internet in some fashion? > > Marcy Rye > Honda CB-1 400 > Partner > > [Unable to display image] > Graphic Design & Consulting for Print & Web > > In a message dated 6/8/99 12:38:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Lisa@XXXXXX > writes: > > << Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist > Kivex.com > Unlock the power of the Internet! >> > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 17:02:20 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA09578 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id RAA05995 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:02:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) with SMTP; 8 Jun 1999 21:02:14 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA09176 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:02:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:02:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: bikes + internet In-Reply-To: <9dcfafe8.248ed509@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > just out of curiosity - how many of us bikers are also heavily involved in > computers and or internet in some fashion? > Mememe Alex Internet Security '97 Katana 600 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 17:07:36 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f155.hotmail.com [209.185.131.218]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA09701 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:07:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96579 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jun 1999 21:07:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990608210702.96578.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.23 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:07:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.23] Reply-To: mrider@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman To: kirk@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: bikes + internet Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:07:02 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Kirk wrote: >Computers suck... :) I agree, and if my wife weren't so accustomed to living in a house and being able to spend money, I wouldn't spend nearly so much time with computers. Leon LAN Administrator _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 17:23:33 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA10077 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:23:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA11997 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:23:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id RAA02743; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:23:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:23:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: bikes + internet In-Reply-To: <9dcfafe8.248ed509@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > just out of curiosity - how many of us bikers are also heavily involved in > computers and or internet in some fashion? Guilty as charged. (And I actually like them as well.) - Brian Roach - Unix Programmer (ex admin) From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 17:32:28 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA10344 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id RAA02756 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:32:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:32:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: dc-cycles Subject: RE: Crashing sucks.... In-Reply-To: <000701beb1da$b135c2f0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Brian Roach got some experience on his new > FZR400 (even some agricultural racing ;-)). You see, what *actually* happened was that one of my boots had become un-zipped, and I needed to pull over to fix it. That grassy section outside of turn 13 seemed like as good of place as any... (Ok, maybe that's not exactly what happened, but it sounds better than I overcooked the turn, started scraping my pegs, and out of sheer terror decided to stand it up and head for terra firma...) - Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 17:50:59 1999 Return-Path: fwegerich@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11022 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.134]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA19236 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earthlink.net (ip22.leesburg4.va.pub-ip.psi.net [38.30.171.22]) by penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28116; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <375D90B0.E64BF00E@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 17:52:49 -0400 From: Frank Wegerich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: bikes + internet References: <9dcfafe8.248ed509@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yup, I admit spending to much time with those "boxes" .... wish I could spent more time with, sorry I mean ON the BMW 1100RT ... (-: Frank QA Engineer From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 17:52:38 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11056 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:52:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id RAA19607 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) with SMTP; 9 Jun 1999 00:53:19 UT Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 15:49 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:RE: I Guess I'm Strange... Message-ID: <19990608155133147-124192c@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Try two hours worth of stop and go traffic... I think you'll have a nice case of heat exhaustion or sun stroke happening. I don't think that your commute is long enough to actually cause you to get really hot. Try riding to work with me in the morning through DC's rush hour traffic (complete with a 2 hour backup) and I guarantee that you will be loosing that jacket. I went out sans jacket this morning and I still got overheated! Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: RE: I Guess I'm Strange... Author: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX (McCoy; Brian NAB02) Date: 6/8/99 2:52 PM That's fine and dandy.. but what the hell am I doing right/wrong that I don't have a problem? I drink a bunch of water at night.. (couple liters) - but nothing really from 5am~5pm. I wear an unvented black leather jacket, black helmet.. riding an air-cooled bike right now... and the worst I get is some sweat. I'm sure as hell not comfortable, but I'm not even approaching heat exhaustion... oh, and if it matters, I'm 230lbs... Sheesh.. I'm used to surviving COLD weather.. not heat.. give me -20dF.... Brian > but I am willing > to risk road > rash in exchange for heat exhaustion at the lights. At least until it > drops back down below 90 again. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 17:53:48 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11092 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:53:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA03317 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:53:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net (mail.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA26853 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:53:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:54:11 -0400 Message-Id: <199906081754.AA110297138@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Welcome to the Ranks! X-Mailer: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:01:44 -0400 >Congrats again - there's nothing like passing the hubby on the highway on >your own ride :)o - tongue sticking out -------------------------------------------------------------- First of all, there's no shame in being passed by another Concours. Second of all, I let you. :) Yeah, that's it. I dig how chicks^H^H^H^H^H^Hyou look on sporty-type bikes. Yep. And third of all, you stick your tongue out like this: :^b So there. :) Dale -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 18:27:28 1999 Return-Path: ewinslow@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA11971 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA28965 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:27:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (ewinslow@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27263 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:27:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Winslow To: DC Cycles list Subject: Re:RE: I Guess I'm Strange... In-Reply-To: <19990608155133147-124192c@fanniemaefoundation.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Was lane splitting out of the question in this situation? I know it's illegal, but... That's where an air-cooled bike comes in handy: "But, officer, I just had to keep moving." Eric (can't use that excuse anymore) '94 KLR650 On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Tom Zell wrote: > Try two hours worth of stop and go traffic... I think you'll have a nice case of > heat exhaustion or sun stroke happening. I don't think that your commute is > long enough to actually cause you to get really hot. Try riding to work with me > in the morning through DC's rush hour traffic (complete with a 2 hour backup) > and I guarantee that you will be loosing that jacket. I went out sans jacket > this morning and I still got overheated! > > Tom > '86 VFR750 > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 18:44:18 1999 Return-Path: dankenney@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (f20.hotmail.com [207.82.251.200]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA12265 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 15533 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jun 1999 22:43:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990608224345.15532.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.172.147.58 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 08 Jun 1999 15:43:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.172.147.58] From: DAN KENNEY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Lyme disease? Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 15:43:44 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I just found out I have lyme disease, hope it doesn't effect my riding!!!!. Anybody else have it? Dan Kenney Red 1997 Suzuki TL1000s _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 18:49:04 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA12354 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:49:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA03848 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.216.182]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA28326 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:48:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA02401 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:49:10 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma002399; Tue, 8 Jun 99 18:48:43 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990608184437.00a9c900@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:45:33 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Re: bikes + internet In-Reply-To: References: <9dcfafe8.248ed509@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:02 PM 6/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > >> just out of curiosity - how many of us bikers are also heavily involved in >> computers and or internet in some fashion? >> > >Mememe Me too. Posting my work addy. Also just started (incorporated) my own comapny - www.zen-data.com. Site is weak right now..... _______________________________________ Michael Troutman Network Development Manager Wheat International Communications Corporation Reston, VA USA DIR (703) 262-9172 FAX (703) 262-9130 PGR (703) 660-3098 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 19:01:49 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA12645 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:01:48 -0400 (EDT) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX (14446) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2CTYa08561 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <95a40c38.248efaa1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:00:49 EDT Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Same here. The temporary compromise I've reached is to remove the windshield and keep the jacket on but partially unzipped. Thats OK for my commute to work ,but I don't think I could take the wind-blast for more than about an hour. I am looking alternatives smaller than the National Cycle Plexi so that I can get some cooling, but take the majority of blast off me. Suggestions are welcomed for 95 Night Hawk. Bob McKeithen PS: I don't think I have seen any full fairing folks wearing protection lately From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 19:36:43 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13335 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:36:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA04317 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA29328 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:36:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.33]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:32:04 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: Cc: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: RE: bikes + internet Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:36:37 -0400 Message-ID: <000901beb207$c06f7e00$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <9dcfafe8.248ed509@aol.com> Probably a lot. I'm the CIO of a small primary care medical group in southern Maryland. Also just brought home my seventh computer. Of course, only three of them are 100% (Hmmm... Some kinda weird modern West Virginia thing. Percentage-wise, that's still better than I am on bikes right now) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > -----Original Message----- > From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX [mailto:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 4:20 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: bikes + internet > > > just out of curiosity - how many of us bikers are also heavily > involved in > computers and or internet in some fashion? > > Marcy Rye > Honda CB-1 400 > Partner > > [Unable to display image] > Graphic Design & Consulting for Print & Web From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 19:50:29 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13585 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.33]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:35:51 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: I Guess I'm Strange... Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:40:24 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01beb208$477b54a0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <95a40c38.248efaa1@aol.com> > PS: I don't think I have seen any full fairing folks wearing > protection lately Most of the Wing'ers I've seen lately have been in shorts and t's. Kinda surprised there's no sandals and black socks;) BTW, BMW can keep that heated seat on the K12LT; I want AC. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 22:13:58 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA15750 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.216.182]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA28069 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:13:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA02415; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:13:44 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma002413; Tue, 8 Jun 99 22:13:18 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990608221216.00ab5490@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 22:13:00 -0400 To: "Lisa S. Goddard" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Re: New Bike! In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990607144854.0068c6c4@kivex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_48194851==_.ALT" --=====================_48194851==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:48 PM 6/7/99 -0400, Lisa S. Goddard wrote: >Well kids, > >Jay and I took a little trip up to New Jersey and picked me up a '95 VFR >750. It's real nice looking in arrest-me red. I got insurance on it today >and plan on having tags on it in time for the weekend. > >Does anybody know the ins and outs of transferring tags off of one bike on >to another in the state of Maryland. Both bikes are currently insured. After reading this, I got this on the vfr list today: Subject: Sold My VFR in Shock now! To: vfr@XXXXXX I think it is a dream or something this couple drove to Jersey from DC and bought my baby. I had it where I wanted it and running great. I am still in shock. I rode a 95 magna today, I wish the magna had the power of my 95vfr. I miss my bike but might buy the magna at a bargin price of $3500 . Knees have been hurting lately on the VFR so if I must ride it might as well be a V4 honda. Does this mean I need to change my screen name to MRMagna ??? PS: Soon to hop it up ,, does anyone know a sight that talks about Magna's and their performance?? Well. I will go and take a few Valiums and go to bed . Maybe I can dream of the great times I had on my 95VFR and relive the great first and second gear wheelies that she made, couldn't get the wheel off the ground on the Magna Yet! Hey Lisa how do you like It Or did your Husband give you the Triumph!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------ The VF/VFR mailing list--see http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~john/vfr-list/for subscribe/unsubscribe, policy and archive information. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 --=====================_48194851==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 02:48 PM 6/7/99 -0400, Lisa S. Goddard wrote:
>Well kids,
>
>Jay and I took a little trip up to New Jersey and picked me up a '95 VFR
>750.  It's real nice looking in arrest-me red.  I got insurance on it today
>and plan on having tags on it in time for the weekend.
>
>Does anybody know the ins and outs of transferring tags off of one bike on
>to another in the state of Maryland.  Both bikes are currently insured.

After reading this, I got this on the vfr list today:

Subject: Sold My VFR in Shock now! To: vfr@XXXXXX
I think it is a dream or something this couple drove to Jersey from DC and
bought my baby. I had it where I wanted it and running great. I am still in
shock. I rode a 95 magna today, I wish the magna had the power of my 95vfr.
I miss my bike but might buy the magna at a bargin price of $3500 . Knees
have been hurting lately on the VFR so if I must ride it might as well be a
V4 honda. Does this mean I need to change my screen name to MRMagna ???
PS: Soon to hop it up ,, does anyone know a sight that talks about Magna's
and their performance??
Well. I will go and take a few Valiums and go to bed . Maybe I can dream
of the great times I had on my 95VFR and relive the great first and second
gear wheelies that she made, couldn't get the wheel off the ground on the
Magna Yet!
Hey Lisa how do you like It Or did your Husband give you the Triumph!!!
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--=====================_48194851==_.ALT-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 23:03:07 1999 Return-Path: Gawthrop@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA16548 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:03:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Gawthrop@XXXXXX Received: from Gawthrop@XXXXXX (14375) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id kSADa26754; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5330fe06.248f32c2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:00:18 EDT Subject: Re: bikes + internet To: kirk@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 In a message dated 99-06-08 16:40:11 EDT, you write: << > just out of curiosity - how many of us bikers are also heavily involved in > computers and or internet in some fashion? Response: Computers suck... :) >> Not far from the truth. There is a school of thought that says we lost control the day the typewriter went electric. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 23:07:50 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA16647 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA06573 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:07:46 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA03532 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (14391) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id gSQYa08612; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:05:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:05:18 EDT Subject: Re: Welcome to the Ranks! To: horkster@XXXXXX, tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 6/8/1999 5:59:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 horkster@XXXXXX writes: << And third of all, you stick your tongue out like this: :^b =20 So there. :) =20 Dale >> Nope. You stick your tongue out like this. :-=DE And yea...you let her pass you. Uh-huh. Right. :-) Scooter From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 8 23:11:21 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA16689 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:11:20 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (14391) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2NLAa17550; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:07:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:07:54 EDT Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... To: McKeithen@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 6/8/1999 7:07:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, McKeithen@XXXXXX writes: << Same here. The temporary compromise I've reached is to remove the windshield and keep the jacket on but partially unzipped. >> I purchased a white/red/black AGV front full-perf jacket for summer riding. Beats a black jacket anyday and works great on these hot days. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 05:41:35 1999 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA24754 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 05:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl46.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.188]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 5595800 ; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 05:39:48 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 05:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... Message-Id: <199906090939.5595800@zzapp.org> On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:15:37 -0400 (EDT), Kirk Roy wrote: >On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: >> but I HATE this hot weather. I do not like riding in it and I think it >> sucks. Gimmee fall/winter riding! > >Some people have a rain bike (e.g., a car) or a winter bike (again, a car) >but I have a summer bike (yes, a car). I drove in today and cranked the AC >the whole way. I could just about become a 3 season rider (fall, winter, >spring) and still be happy. This, of course, will do nothing to help avoid >people assuming you're strange. I'm certifiably weird myself... I had an even better plan. I left work a little early and headed north. I hit the mountains up in PA and it was sweet. Nice and cool. But, it was still about 90 when I finally got home at almost 2100 hours (9:00pm for the rest of you). The mountains are definitely the place to be in this heat. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE of Maryland MRF / AMA / HRCA "Misplaced Idahoan" From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 06:57:28 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA25929 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 06:57:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 03:57:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: RE: I Guess I'm Strange... Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 03:57:07 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Idonno.. I commuted all last summer from College Park, MD to Ft. Belvoir.. over the Wilson bridge.. 5 days a week... I've spent my fair share of time sitting in traffic (on both a VFR and an XT250). All that'd ever happen is a bit of sweat.. (though I did burn a nice hole in the 'Stich with the XT exhaust at one time). *shrug* Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Zell [mailto:TZell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 3:49 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re:RE: I Guess I'm Strange... > > > Try two hours worth of stop and go traffic... I think you'll > have a nice case of > heat exhaustion or sun stroke happening. I don't think that > your commute is > long enough to actually cause you to get really hot. Try > riding to work with me > in the morning through DC's rush hour traffic (complete with > a 2 hour backup) > and I guarantee that you will be loosing that jacket. I went > out sans jacket > this morning and I still got overheated! > > Tom > '86 VFR750 > > > ____________________Reply Separator____________________ > Subject: RE: I Guess I'm Strange... > Author: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX (McCoy; Brian NAB02) > Date: 6/8/99 2:52 PM > > That's fine and dandy.. but what the hell am I doing > right/wrong that I > don't have a problem? I drink a bunch of water at night.. > (couple liters) - > but nothing really from 5am~5pm. I wear an unvented black > leather jacket, > black helmet.. riding an air-cooled bike right now... and the > worst I get is > some sweat. I'm sure as hell not comfortable, but I'm not > even approaching > heat exhaustion... oh, and if it matters, I'm 230lbs... > > Sheesh.. I'm used to surviving COLD weather.. not heat.. give > me -20dF.... > > Brian > > > > but I am willing > > to risk road > > rash in exchange for heat exhaustion at the lights. At > least until it > > drops back down below 90 again. > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 08:24:51 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27858 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id ACFF7CD019E; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 08:24:31 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990609073248.012b0830@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 07:36:42 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... In-Reply-To: <95a40c38.248efaa1@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:00 PM 6/8/99 , McKeithen@XXXXXX wrote: >Same here. The temporary compromise I've reached is to remove the windshield >and keep the jacket on but partially unzipped. Thats OK for my commute to >work ,but I don't think I could take the wind-blast for more than about an >hour. I am looking alternatives smaller than the National Cycle Plexi so >that I can get some cooling, but take the majority of blast off me. >Suggestions are welcomed for 95 Night Hawk. >Bob McKeithen I switched over to my "summer" windscreen - which is really just big enough to keep the wind/rain off the instruments. I get a lot of wind on my chest, but also up the sleeves, in the armpit vents, on the neck, and in the helmet vents. I have a National Cycle "Deflector Screen" windshield on the sidecar rig - that windshield is quite small, costs about $50 complete, and does a wonderful job of keeping the wind pressure off my chest but letting lots of air get to me. I stayed remarkably comfortable on the ride home yesterday in my Aerostich. All vents open, small windshield (as described above). Also soaked a bandanna and wrapped it around my neck. What a great thing! And 25 minutes and 10 miles later it was DRY. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 08:39:55 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28161 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 05:39:33 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Finding fun roads.. Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 05:39:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Ok.. so some of you out there actually own computers and have them available at home... and some of those people have opted to pay good money for mapping programs - well, for the rest of you (cheap bastards like myself) - feel free to try out http://www.census.gov and use their mapping software (called Tiger or somesuch) - you can set the criteria of what you want displayed :) I'm working (under the table) with the GIS guru's here to see if we can get a grid of secondary roads for the MD/VA/WV/PA region and lay it over a topography map (so you can see elevation changes as well).. just seems like a fun little project to take up some idle time... And it's free - what more can you ask for? Brian From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 09:19:38 1999 Return-Path: berman@XXXXXX Received: from min.net (root@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA28834 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:19:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from min.net (berman@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by min.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07989 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:19:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Morris Berman To: DC Cycles Subject: Off for my 3 day trip Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The GPZ ECR (That's East Coast Rally for the uninitiated) has finally arrived. I will be leaving in just a few hours. Off to Cass, WV for three days of riding fun (and in the mountains, so it should be cool). No prediction of rain thus far! -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 09:20:36 1999 Return-Path: jay.stpeter@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA28921 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10riEt-0005E7-00; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:17:55 -0400 Received: from jay (ravinc.clark.net [168.143.30.5]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA27290; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:20:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jay St. Peter" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Lyme disease? Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:19:38 -0400 Message-ID: <000001beb27a$b983a800$afc809c0@jay> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Dan, I don't think lyme disease will affect your ability to ride. It depends on how long it took to diagnose. If you have it pretty bad, then you will probably be beat. Therefore, I would not recommend doing the Capitol 1000. Also, the drugs you need to take will cause you to sunburn very easily, so no squidly riding. My mom and a good friend both had it at the same time. Mom was very bad, she slept more than she was awake for a while. My friend was usually beat but tried not to let it get to him. Both got sun poisoning from being in the sun for very short periods of time (like 10 minutes with no sunscreen). Both had the worst of it in August and were always walking around wearing long pants, long sleeve shirts, big floppy hats, and even gloves (both had very bad sun rashes on tops of their hands). So be very careful about the sun. Jay St. Peter From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 09:22:15 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA28931 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user203.anent.com [208.195.115.203]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA12605 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 09:20:12 -0400 Message-ID: <008901beb27b$1692e600$cb73c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" References: <000901beb207$c06f7e00$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Subject: Re: bikes + internet Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:16:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 > Probably a lot. I'm the CIO of a small primary care medical group in > southern Maryland. Also just brought home my seventh computer. Of course, > only three of them are 100% (Hmmm... Some kinda weird modern West Virginia > thing. Percentage-wise, that's still better than I am on bikes right now) Broken computers laying around in the front yard up on blocks? From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 10:34:38 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00307 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:34:37 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA11813 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:34:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (363) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vAXVa10019 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8ab9c2ca.248fd530@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:33:20 EDT Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 I've found "but officer that cab/SUV/van back there nearly ran me over (which is often true) - I was trying to escape him!" to work pretty well as long as its accompanied by a look of fear and/or panic ;D ummm - any cops on the list? ;D Marcy In a message dated 6/8/99 6:32:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ewinslow@XXXXXX writes: << That's where an air-cooled bike comes in handy: "But, officer, I just had to keep moving." >> From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 10:39:43 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00386 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13676 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:39:40 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA12974 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (363) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vBEFa08612 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:39:12 EDT Subject: Re: Welcome to the Ranks! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 In a message dated 6/8/99 11:12:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 ScooterFZR@XXXXXX writes: << Nope. You stick your tongue out like this. :-=DE >> how on earth do ya do THAT? :-P From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 10:46:52 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00544 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:46:44 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: I Guess I'm Strange... Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:46:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) That's a good question.. any upkeepers of the law on here lurking or otherwise? Just curious... Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX [mailto:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > > ummm - any cops on the list? ;D > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 11:07:52 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00951 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:07:50 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA28229; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:35:05 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma024679; Wed, 9 Jun 99 10:29:50 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com ([10.9.16.181]) by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FD2001OGDOSQB@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525678B.004F7B12 ; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 10:28:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 10:19:08 -0400 Subject: VTR For Sale in PA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525678B.004F6FFB.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I found this ad on the Superhawk list. If anyone's interested in owning one of these FANTASTIC bikes, check it out. Respond to the guy listed, not me. I can, however, answer most questions about Superhawks in general. Chris Weaver 98 VTR Specs: $6900.00 -3300 miles -Two Bros slip-on high mount CF Cans or D& D low mount slip-ons -Factory Stage 1 Jet Kit -Corbin Seat -Goodridge Kevlar brake & clutch lines (blue) -Zero Gravity Double Bubble -CF Motorsports/Woodcraft clip-ons w/bar end mirrors -Competition Werkes fender eliminator kit powdercoated black & White Brothers Super Motard turn signals -Frog Eyes front turn signals, proper 2 wire installation & mounting -Lockhart Phillips CF front fender I have all stock parts and can sell bike this way and can deliver w/enclosed trailer up to 180 miles, I am located in the western Philadelphia suburbs. Digital photography is available. 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From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 11:20:08 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01211 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:20:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 11:19:15 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 11:19:13 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 11:17:15 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Chris wrote: (snip) Also soaked a bandanna and wrapped it around my neck. What a great thing! And 25 minutes and 10 miles later it was DRY. The water thing is great while it lasts. In the scorching summer of '89, a buddy and I rode from Minneapolis to Sturgis for the rally. The dry 105-degree heat made it feel like riding through a blast furnace, so we got the idea of hosing ourselves down at gas stops (every 70 miles since I was on a Sportster). We soaked our helmet liners, shirts, jackets, everthing. And it felt great for 5 minutes, which is all the time it took for the water to dry. Except unfortunately, for the interface between ass and naugahyde. That area stayed NICE and moist . . . Joe From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 12:20:53 1999 Return-Path: schelzig@XXXXXX Received: from research.circ.gwu.edu (research.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.250]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02359 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by research.circ.gwu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11667; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:22:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Erik Schelzig To: JOE NAGY cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... -Reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My understanding is that the wet bandanna/clothing trick is used best in dry heat - which DC certainly doesn't have. With high levels of humidity, the added water will just sit on your skin, blocking pores and heating up your body even more. The latest issue of Motorcycle Consumer News talks about this phenomenon in great length. One of their tips if you are driving in dry heat is to keep a squezzie water bottle in your tankbag and spray it on your neck band periodically to keep it wet and cool. Allbests, erik On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, JOE NAGY wrote: > Chris wrote: > (snip) > > Also soaked a > bandanna and wrapped it around my neck. What a great thing! And 25 > minutes and 10 miles later it was DRY. > > The water thing is great while it lasts. In the scorching summer of > '89, a buddy and I rode from Minneapolis to Sturgis for the rally. The > dry 105-degree heat made it feel like riding through a blast furnace, so > we got the idea of hosing ourselves down at gas stops (every 70 miles > since I was on a Sportster). We soaked our helmet liners, shirts, > jackets, everthing. And it felt great for 5 minutes, which is all the > time it took for the water to dry. Except unfortunately, for the > interface between ass and naugahyde. That area stayed NICE and moist . > . . > > Joe > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 12:44:59 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02716 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:44:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA17271 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.bellatlantic.net (client-209-158-138-109.libertyhs.com [209.158.138.109]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA19485; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906091648.MAA19485@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:46:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Honda Hawk Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Does anyone have a Hawk they want to sell? Are they pretty easy to get parts for? or to find? I have heard they make good starter bikes for racing. Any comments? Thanks, Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 12:51:50 1999 Return-Path: garicao@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (garicao@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA02886 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id MAA26217; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:54:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:54:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Garcia Oliver To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... -Reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII While evaporative cooling works best at low relative humidity, it will work at anything less than 100% r.h. Try this: on a typical Washington day, wet down one half (l or r, not upper or lower!) of your body, go for a ride and see which side is cooler. --garcia On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Erik Schelzig wrote: > My understanding is that the wet bandanna/clothing trick is used best in > dry heat - which DC certainly doesn't have. With high levels of humidity, > the added water will just sit on your skin, blocking pores and heating up > your body even more. The latest issue of Motorcycle Consumer News talks > about this phenomenon in great length. One of their tips if you are > driving in dry heat is to keep a squezzie water bottle in your tankbag and > spray it on your neck band periodically to keep it wet and cool. > > Allbests, > > erik > > > On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, JOE NAGY wrote: > > > Chris wrote: > > (snip) > > > > Also soaked a > > bandanna and wrapped it around my neck. What a great thing! And 25 > > minutes and 10 miles later it was DRY. > > > > The water thing is great while it lasts. In the scorching summer of > > '89, a buddy and I rode from Minneapolis to Sturgis for the rally. The > > dry 105-degree heat made it feel like riding through a blast furnace, so > > we got the idea of hosing ourselves down at gas stops (every 70 miles > > since I was on a Sportster). We soaked our helmet liners, shirts, > > jackets, everthing. And it felt great for 5 minutes, which is all the > > time it took for the water to dry. Except unfortunately, for the > > interface between ass and naugahyde. That area stayed NICE and moist . > > . . > > > > Joe > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 13:02:00 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03049 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA26741 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:01:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:01:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Honda Hawk In-Reply-To: <199906091648.MAA19485@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Danny Thompson wrote: > Does anyone have a Hawk they want to sell? Are they pretty easy to > get parts for? or to find? I have heard they make good starter bikes > for racing. Any comments? Check out www.hawkgt.com. There are probably few bikes with such a limited production run that are easier to get parts for. Actually, there are few bikes at all that are easier to get parts for. At the the hawkgt.com site there's a FAQ that has a lot of good info and the main author/compiler's insights are great. :) Lister Don Burger has my old Hawk which I just parted with earlier this year (sadly). Had to make room for the dirt bike, after all. If only I had more room. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 13:32:46 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03532 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990609173301.20315.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web303.yahoomail.com; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 10:33:01 PDT Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:33:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Wow, never expected this! To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yesterday while riding back from a meeting, I passed a motocycle policeman. Usually I wave at them and they either give me a strange look or carefully ignore me. But they have never waved back. This time I didn't even get a chance to take my hand off the grip before the guy waved at me! Astonishing!! :-) Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 14:12:36 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04297 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:12:35 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPMLPKT3; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:12:38 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPM7T031; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:12:39 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 8525678B.006406CF ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:12:33 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525678B.00636908.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:09:37 -0400 Subject: IT Occupation HP-UX Guru/Independent Consultant/Entrepreneur HP RULES! well if not, at least we have a LVM that's actually bundled right in ;) Always looking for ways to make lots of money so that I can have the latest & greatest sportbike for lots of riding.... Anyone interested in going in on a joint venture ;) DJ & STORM From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 15:11:13 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05349 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with ESMTP id PAA16630; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:02:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990609151038.00a92ae0@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 15:10:58 -0400 To: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: Re: IT Occupation In-Reply-To: <8525678B.00636908.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed If you need more Unix folks, lemmee know... :) At 02:09 PM 6/9/99 -0400, djones@XXXXXX wrote: >HP-UX Guru/Independent Consultant/Entrepreneur > >HP RULES! well if not, at least we have a LVM that's actually bundled right >in ;) > >Always looking for ways to make lots of money so that I can have the latest >& greatest sportbike for lots of riding.... >Anyone interested in going in on a joint venture ;) > >DJ & STORM ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://ussales/granth From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 16:07:45 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06552 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:07:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A98D464D0078; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:07:41 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990609160501.012cbbc0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:06:35 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: [non-moto] Jr Computer Systems Analyst wanted Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jr Computer Systems Analyst wanted, Crystal City (Arlington, VA) with possible move into DC. Please see www.jil.com, Job Opportunities thanks, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 16:28:22 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from web503.yahoomail.com (web503.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA06908 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990609203358.14792.rocketmail@web503.yahoomail.com> Received: from [198.45.19.20] by web503.yahoomail.com; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 13:33:58 PDT Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:33:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: stolen bike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii For the second time in about four months, thieves stole a bike from me. Last night at my place in Northeast DC, they removed the cover, cut the cable connecting the bike to an iron staircase, and dragged it with its disc lock through the front gate (there was a black streak on the cement this morning). I have to seriously reconsider my location. Please keep your eye out for a red and white '97 YZF750 (distinctive marks are cat-eye headlights and odd stepped tail light) with VA plates: 80976. The bike was insured, but I'd really like it back. If you spot it, I would appreciate a call to the police or me (h: 202-544-2855, w: 202-383-2243). Thanks, and keep an eye on yours. Sean _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 16:32:29 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA07035 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:32:26 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (2618) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2NCOa09518 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39644f03.249028d5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:30:13 EDT Subject: driving while HOT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 In a message dated 6/9/99 12:31:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, schelzig@XXXXXX writes: << tips if you are driving in dry heat >> here's one stolen from bicycling in the summers of DC ... there's a thing called a "camelback" or something like that - basically it's a cooler int he form of a cloth bag that straps on your back and carries (cold) water ... there's a tube that wraps around to your mouth so you can sip out of it on the move ... obviously easy access to water while cycling prevents dehydration but the pack on your back also serves to keep your nody cooled down ... I dunno about getting the tube to your mouth with a fullface helmet on but I imagine it's possible marcy From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 16:44:48 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA07213 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:44:47 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (2618) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rWBAa13875; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:31:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20248a10.24902917@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:31:19 EDT Subject: Re: Wow, never expected this! To: nighthawk700@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 In a message dated 6/9/99 1:40:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nighthawk700@XXXXXX writes: << I passed a motocycle policeman. Usually I wave at them and they either give me a strange look or carefully ignore me. But they have never waved back. >> that's been my experience as well - what's UP with that??? mlr From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 16:49:38 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.114]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA07330 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:49:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by wodc7mr0.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgsxf12098; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:49:29 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8525678B.007299BB ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:51:44 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: Sean Sullivan cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525678B.00729966.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:40:54 -0400 Subject: Re: stolen bike Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline NO WAY!!! That totally SUCKS!!! I am so sorry! I would've thought that was a semi-safe place to store a bike! : ( - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Sean Sullivan on 06/09/99 04:33:58 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: stolen bike For the second time in about four months, thieves stole a bike from me. Last night at my place in Northeast DC, they removed the cover, cut the cable connecting the bike to an iron staircase, and dragged it with its disc lock through the front gate (there was a black streak on the cement this morning). I have to seriously reconsider my location. Please keep your eye out for a red and white '97 YZF750 (distinctive marks are cat-eye headlights and odd stepped tail light) with VA plates: 80976. The bike was insured, but I'd really like it back. If you spot it, I would appreciate a call to the police or me (h: 202-544-2855, w: 202-383-2243). Thanks, and keep an eye on yours. Sean _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 16:58:52 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA07568 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:58:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38416) with ESMTP id <0FD20033YVDHGK@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:53:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta02.mcit.com (omzmta02.mcit.com [166.37.194.120]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id UAA32488; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 20:54:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta02.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990609205340.EASA642@[166.38.156.10]>; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 20:53:40 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:51:15 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: Camel-Bak RE: driving while HOT In-reply-to: <39644f03.249028d5@aol.com> To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000401beb2b9$d0cbe5b0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal > << tips if you are > driving in dry heat >> > > here's one stolen from bicycling in the summers of DC ... there's a thing > called a "camelback" obviously easy access to water while cycling prevents > dehydration but the pack on your back also serves to keep your > nody cooled > down ... I dunno about getting the tube to your mouth with a > fullface helmet > on but I imagine it's possible > > marcy > I just got one of these and have been testing it out. It is a vinyl bladder of varying size with a vinyl tube attached. Fill it with your favorite cool beverage and place it into its cloth (lycra to GorTex) covered neoprene nap-sack like bag. There are many varieties of the basic design, but I just stuck to the original. The covered neoprene is like those huggies you put around a beer bottle, or a wet-suit. It definitely keeps the beverage cool (or hot), but it gets very warm against the body. I will experiment further with it in Tank-bag and worn outside my jacket. Todd From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 16:59:15 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA07591 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:59:08 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPMLPMHM; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:59:16 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPM74DB8; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:59:16 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 8525678B.00734929 ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:59:13 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525678B.0072E91A.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:56:07 -0400 Subject: Yahoo dc-cycles Club Page How do I get to this page? Thanks, DJ From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 18:04:30 1999 Return-Path: jmoran@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08941 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:04:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from loudoun.com (leesburg-113.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with ESMTP id <0FD200CCLYMIDA@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:04:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 18:12:22 -0400 From: Randy and Julie Moran Subject: Re: Wow, never expected this! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-to: jmoran@XXXXXX Message-id: <375EE69A.9907DD53@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <20248a10.24902917@aol.com> I think it's because the cop doesn't want to be seen as showing any favoritism (or solidarity or partiality, whatever) to a motorcyclist. I've noticed this as well and often wondered if it may even be some sort of formal policy. JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > In a message dated 6/9/99 1:40:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > nighthawk700@XXXXXX writes: > > << I passed a motocycle policeman. > Usually I wave at them and they either give me a strange look or carefully > ignore me. But they have never waved back. >> > > that's been my experience as well - what's UP with that??? > > mlr From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 18:26:41 1999 Return-Path: rdt@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA09346 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rdt (216-164-237-170.s170.tnt9.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.237.170]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id SAA10246; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <017701beb2c7$2d930b40$aaeda4d8@rdt> From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: "Sean Sullivan" , References: <19990609203358.14792.rocketmail@web503.yahoomail.com> Subject: Re: stolen bike Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:26:52 -0400 Organization: Attorney at Law X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sean: I would consider getting an alarm. I currently am using a Gorrilla system (about $100.00 mail order). You may want to consider a high dollar/high tech system such as a Scorpio. I hope your bike is recovered, as it appeared to be in mint condition. Roy D. Turner, Esq. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Sullivan To: Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 4:33 PM Subject: stolen bike > For the second time in about four months, thieves > stole a bike from me. Last night at my place in > Northeast DC, they removed the cover, cut the cable > connecting the bike to an iron staircase, and dragged > it with its disc lock through the front gate (there > was a black streak on the cement this morning). I have > to seriously reconsider my location. > Please keep your eye out for a red and white '97 > YZF750 (distinctive marks are cat-eye headlights and > odd stepped tail light) with VA plates: 80976. The > bike was insured, but I'd really like it back. If you > spot it, I would appreciate a call to the police or me > (h: 202-544-2855, w: 202-383-2243). Thanks, and keep > an eye on yours. > Sean > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 20:25:45 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA11351 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:25:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id UAA15052; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:25:41 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from voyager.concentric.net (voyager [206.173.119.82]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id UAA29069; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:25:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:25:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: Randy and Julie Moran cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Wow, never expected this! In-Reply-To: <375EE69A.9907DD53@loudoun.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE =09I always wave to motorcycle cops and I can't remember the last time they didn't wave back. Maybe it's because you guys look like a bunch of hooligans. =09You meet the nicest people on a Honda,^H^H^H^H^H^HKawasaki, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Randy and Julie Moran wrote: > m (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08941 for ; Wed= , 9 Jun 1999 18:04:29 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from loudoun.com (leesburg-113.cybercable.com) > by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.1= 0) > with ESMTP id <0FD200CCLYMIDA@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@dc-cycle= s.org; > Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:04:11 -0400 (EDT) > Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 18:12:22 -0400 > From: Randy and Julie Moran > Subject: Re: Wow, never expected this! > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Reply-to: jmoran@XXXXXX > Message-id: <375EE69A.9907DD53@XXXXXX> > MIM=00ftwar From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 21:16:56 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12239 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA22040 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:16:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.wch.adelphia.net (alpha.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA01269 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:16:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gforeman (surf209.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.209]) by alpha.wch.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id VAA04888 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:16:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary Foreman" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: What Tank Protector? Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:16:23 -0400 Message-ID: <000801beb2de$dae9ecc0$1406030a@gforeman.wch.adelphia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Tank Bra? I have one of those little Mag-Knight tank protectors, but I want something with more coverage. I ordered a Second-Look bra that was supposed to match my bike, but it looks like it's for the '98 model, and the colors don't match, so I'm returning it. Does anyone have the Mag-Knight magnetic tank protector that wraps around the tank from side to side? This looks easy to remove and clean etc. Any feedback is appreciated. Gary W. Foreman EMAIL: gforeman@XXXXXX WEB: http://www.fj1100.com '99-TL1000R | '88-KX250 | '85-FJ1100 From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 23:05:49 1999 Return-Path: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14074 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:05:48 -0400 (EDT) From: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from JimJacks@XXXXXX (535) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vQDBa00666 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6f1ef43d.249084fd@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:03:25 EDT Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 06/09/99 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Hey anyone. Anyone ever interested in spontaneous late night riding, starting from Reston - ish and going wherever, downtown DC to Middleburg to just crusin' the suburbs, I dont care! Let me know via email, I am game. For instance it is now 11 pm and BEAUTIOUS outside, so I am heading out for a few hours? of riding, maybe hit a jazz club. This is a fair illustration of two or three nights a week for me, so let me know if you wanna join in. -jim - a bike From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 23:11:00 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA14100 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990610031211.20286.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.7.100] by web307.yahoomail.com; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 20:12:11 PDT Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:12:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: 211 & road report To: Grant Heffernan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii As Chris mentioned, take the 29 exit.. however, there are a lot more fun ways to get down there..... And in case anyone is interested... The roads on both mountain section of 211 are in excellent condition.. came across them twice in the past two days on my 900 mile venture into WV. 33 is in fair condition, but you'll get held up on the VA side due to construction. Don't even waste your time going all the way down to 250. They are doing lots of patching/repaving, and almost anywhere that is good to ride is covered in loose gravel/asphalt. :( Collin --- Grant Heffernan wrote: > Anyone know if there's an exit for 211 off of 66 west (coming from > the > reston area)? > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 23:18:41 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from gecko.troutman.org (root@XXXXXX [216.164.242.194]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14270 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA02798; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:18:44 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma002796; Wed, 9 Jun 99 23:18:30 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990609231558.00a96d20@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 23:18:11 -0400 To: JimJacks@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 06/09/99 In-Reply-To: <6f1ef43d.249084fd@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:03 PM 6/9/99 -0400, JimJacks@XXXXXX wrote: >Hey anyone. >Anyone ever interested in spontaneous late night riding, starting from Reston >- ish and going wherever, downtown DC to Middleburg to just crusin' the >suburbs, I dont care! Let me know via email, I am game. For instance it is >now 11 pm and BEAUTIOUS outside, so I am heading out for a few hours? of >riding, maybe hit a jazz club. This is a fair illustration of two or three >nights a week for me, so let me know if you wanna join in. >-jim - a bike Night riding kind of freaks me out. I don;t mind it if there are streetlamps, or I can use high beams, but I don't like not being able to see around curves as well....I COULD take my tinted visor off ;D Got my disc-lock and Nady PRC-8 in today. The nady installed pretty easily, but the FM tuner seems to suck so far. Hope to play with it tomorrow - maybe just interference in the house. If it doesn;t improve...back she goes! MT _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 23:21:21 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA14349 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:21:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990610032247.21607.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.7.100] by web307.yahoomail.com; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 20:22:47 PDT Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:22:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Off for my 3 day trip To: Morris Berman , DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Did you make it down there Morris?? I left the campground at 6:15 pm and we still hadn't seen you, and I didn't pass you along the most direct route back from there :( Hope all is well.... Don't expect cool though.... it was hotter than heck down there msot of the day, except for one foray above 4000 ft! CT --- Morris Berman wrote: > The GPZ ECR (That's East Coast Rally for the uninitiated) has finally > arrived. I will be leaving in just a few hours. Off to Cass, WV for > three days of riding fun (and in the mountains, so it should be > cool). No > prediction of rain thus far! > > -Mb > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX > '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA > (M/C) #446884 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. > > Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging > trying to > cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams > > > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 23:30:34 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14532 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:30:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-248.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.248]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA25057; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:30:29 -0400 Message-ID: <033601beb2f1$74bda280$1fa4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Sean Sullivan" , Subject: Re: stolen bike Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:28:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Damn. The Feds were supposed to stop all this restless native foolishness. Sorry you fell prey to the vestiges. Eyes peeled. Bill S. / DC / 513 99 VN750 --> Will keep my mirror stalks peeled, too. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. -----Original Message----- From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 4:35 PM Subject: stolen bike > For the second time in about four months, thieves >stole a bike from me. Last night at my place in >Northeast DC, they removed the cover, cut the cable >connecting the bike to an iron staircase, and dragged >it with its disc lock through the front gate (there >was a black streak on the cement this morning). I have >to seriously reconsider my location. > Please keep your eye out for a red and white '97 >YZF750 (distinctive marks are cat-eye headlights and >odd stepped tail light) with VA plates: 80976. The >bike was insured, but I'd really like it back. If you >spot it, I would appreciate a call to the police or me >(h: 202-544-2855, w: 202-383-2243). Thanks, and keep >an eye on yours. > Sean >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 23:37:03 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA14616 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990610033824.23455.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.7.100] by web307.yahoomail.com; Wed, 09 Jun 1999 20:38:24 PDT Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:38:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 06/09/99 To: JimJacks@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Heading toward town might make for an interesting ride, but you'll want to avoid the country... that is of course, unless you enjoy scraping off a thick layer of bugs from your shield every five miles... On the way to Cass, WV last night, we got caught out after dark for the last 20 miles or so... once it got fully dark, we had to slow to 25-30 mph just to see, then we had to stop every few miles to clean our visors.. although, that just let me see the bunny that I nearly hit, the deer I nearly hit, the owl I nearly hit, and the bird (or bat??) that I did hit.. Almost as bad with the bugs on the way home tonight (made it jsut past Thornton's gap when it started getting darker) but up on 66 the bugs weren't too bad. CT --- Mike T wrote: > At 11:03 PM 6/9/99 -0400, JimJacks@XXXXXX wrote: > >Hey anyone. > >Anyone ever interested in spontaneous late night riding, starting > from Reston > >- ish and going wherever, downtown DC to Middleburg to just crusin' > the > >suburbs, I dont care! === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 9 23:50:18 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.zen-data.com (mail.zen-data.com [207.152.129.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14902 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iguana (216-164-242-194.s448.tnt10.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.242.194]) by www.zen-data.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA07804; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:50:07 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990609234746.00aa2250@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 23:50:04 -0400 To: "Collin T. Fagan" , JimJacks@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 06/09/99 In-Reply-To: <19990610033824.23455.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:38 PM 6/9/99 -0700, Collin T. Fagan wrote: >the deer I nearly hit, the owl I nearly hit, and the bird (or bat??) >that I did hit.. Almost as bad with the bugs on the way home tonight >(made it jsut past Thornton's gap when it started getting darker) but >up on 66 the bugs weren't too bad. Reminds me of a short story. Friend of mine was dating a girl (now married to her) out in Bristow near Manassas. Driving home one night in his '95 Camaro, he saw something swoop down in the moonlight. Heard a big thud and shattering glass. He pulls over to the side of the road to discover a huge dent in his fron 1/4 panel, shattered headlight and turn signal...lots of blood...and a big f**king dead owl on the side of the road. Guess it thought he might be dinner...... _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 00:04:46 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15138 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA23621 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:04:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from floyd.qis.net (floyd.qis.net [209.150.96.22]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA04071 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:04:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from qis.net (pm4-balt-198.qis.net [209.150.97.198]) by floyd.qis.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA16996 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <375F3A64.F2952E3A@qis.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:09:08 -0400 From: Holmes family Reply-To: holmzrus@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Welcome to the Ranks! References: <199906081754.AA110297138@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit An even better tongue sticking out is 8^Þ Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda Magna VF700C Horkster wrote: > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Horstman, Tracy L" > Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:01:44 -0400 > > >Congrats again - there's nothing like passing the hubby on the highway on > >your own ride :)o - tongue sticking out > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > And third of all, you stick your tongue out like this: :^b > > So there. :) > > Dale > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 00:27:37 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15827 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-248.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.248]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA26807 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:27:33 -0400 Message-ID: <033b01beb2f9$6d0caa60$1fa4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:26:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Here are a few of my summer survival measures that seem to work (well, I'm still here): Light colored helmet (may try a foil covering if the temps sizzle) and 'Stitch Shoei 800 has several strategic vents Bead seat cover Leather (imitation)/mesh fabric boating gloves -- very cool yet moderate protection (and they match my red 'Stitch for squid points) Highway pegs for leg-air-injection riding posture Occasional lanesplit where appropriate and unprovoking That Camelback suggestion may get my attention. Bill S. / DC / 513 99 VN750 --> Doesn't lather in the heat Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 01:53:08 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA17113 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id BAA04457 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:53:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 01:53:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: dc-cycles Subject: Buying a trailer Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ok... I'm taking the plunge and am going to buy a trailer to haul the FZR to and from the track. Anyone have any suggestions as to where I should go to aquire one? (New or used). Found a place on the web where I can order a single-rail trailer with full size wheels for about $550, and they ship it to you un-assembled, looks interesting. Other than that, I could see buying a utility trailer with side rails. Is there anywhere local that I could find one? Thanks, - Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 02:18:25 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA18276 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.26]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:13:46 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Brian Roach" , "dc-cycles" Subject: RE: Buying a trailer Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:18:36 -0400 Message-ID: <001801beb309$13156780$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Do you have the url for the site where you found the trailer 'kit'? ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > Found a place on the web where I can order a single-rail trailer with full > size wheels for about $550, and they ship it to you un-assembled, looks > interesting. > > Other than that, I could see buying a utility trailer with side rails. > Is there anywhere local that I could find one? From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 07:25:27 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA23819 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:23:08 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB03F0@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Sean Sullivan'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: stolen bike Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:23:18 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Damn, that sux Sean. I think you did just about everything (short of an alarm) to keep your bike from getting stolen. And I would think with the effort they already went through to steal your bike an alarm would not have helped. Glenn For the second time in about four months, thieves stole a bike from me. Last night at my place in Northeast DC, they removed the cover, cut the cable connecting the bike to an iron staircase, and dragged it with its disc lock through the front gate (there was a black streak on the cement this morning). I have to seriously reconsider my location. Please keep your eye out for a red and white '97 YZF750 (distinctive marks are cat-eye headlights and odd stepped tail light) with VA plates: 80976. The bike was insured, but I'd really like it back. If you spot it, I would appreciate a call to the police or me (h: 202-544-2855, w: 202-383-2243). Thanks, and keep an eye on yours. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 07:36:59 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA24057 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3571167010C; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:36:55 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990610073145.012cf1d0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:35:12 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: stolen bike In-Reply-To: <19990609203358.14792.rocketmail@web503.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:33 PM 6/9/99 , Sean Sullivan wrote: > For the second time in about four months, thieves >stole a bike from me. Last night at my place in >Northeast DC, they removed the cover, cut the cable >connecting the bike to an iron staircase, and dragged >it with its disc lock through the front gate (there >was a black streak on the cement this morning). Really sorry to hear that. Keeping bikes from enterprising thieves becomes harder and harder. The more you have something they want to steal, the harder they'll work. I saw a neat "ground fastener" at Coleman in Falls Church the other day - basically a metal plate that fastens to concrete with three bolts, then the bolt heads are covered with a plate. A large eyebolt sticks up for a cable (preferably one of those "solid-metal cables" to go through. The plate covering the boltheads won't come up without removing the cable first. That'd probably slow 'em down more. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 07:36:59 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA24058 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:36:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3561167010C; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:36:54 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990610073020.012c1b50@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:31:00 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Wow, never expected this! In-Reply-To: References: <375EE69A.9907DD53@loudoun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:25 PM 6/9/99 , Hugh A. Caldwell wrote: > I always wave to motorcycle cops and I can't remember >the last time they didn't wave back. Maybe it's because you >guys look like a bunch of hooligans. Come try that in DC ... I've never heard of ANYBODY getting a DC motor officer to wave back! :-) Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 09:30:55 1999 Return-Path: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX Received: from mailgw2a.lmco.com (mailgw2a.lmco.com [192.91.147.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA26675 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss03g01.ems.lmco.com (emss03g01.orl.lmco.com [141.240.4.144]) by mailgw2a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19626 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38331) id <0FD400O015IX25@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss09m01.ems.lmco.com ([158.183.24.5]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38331) with ESMTP id <0FD400NAT5IJA5@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by emss09m01.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:32:14 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:30:15 -0400 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: RE: driving while HOT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655FD8@emss09m05.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Camelbaks are great - 1.) I have a 50oz, keeps my back cool even with my leather jacket on - 2.) H2O stays cold too which keep me cool 3.) I have a Shoei 700 full face helmet and the "hose" fits up under the helmet through the front - there's a nice clip on the should to hold the hose in place while it's not in my mouth 4.) Having to go pee after drinking so much reminds me to take breaks and cool down in hot weather so I don't over do. Tracy From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 09:52:43 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27063 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:52:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com (corp23.kivex.com [208.213.150.23]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.8-KIVEX) with SMTP id JAA29098 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990610094650.006b639c@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:46:50 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: RE: driving while HOT In-Reply-To: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655FD8@emss09m05.ems.lmc o.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've been commuting by bike this whole week, got to get used to the new VFR! I've been doing OK by putting my helmet and gloves in the company fridge for about 1/2 hour before leaving. It helps that my bike is parked inside to, no hot seat. Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 09:53:29 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA27073 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:52:40 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:52:40 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:50:48 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mobacc@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I wear MX gloves in the heat, at least the palms are real leather, and you get some knuckle protection. Funny story about highway pegs: Out in LA a few years back I was cruising around with a buddy on two of his Harleys, when all of a sudden he let out a holler, pulled to the side of the road, jumped off the bike, and commenced to dancing what looked like the Hokey Pokey. Had the right leg out and was shaking it all about . . . a bee had flown up his pant leg! Joe >>> "mobacc" - 6/10/99 12:26 AM >>> Here are a few of my summer survival measures that seem to work (well, I'm still here): Light colored helmet (may try a foil covering if the temps sizzle) and 'Stitch Shoei 800 has several strategic vents Bead seat cover Leather (imitation)/mesh fabric boating gloves -- very cool yet moderate protection (and they match my red 'Stitch for squid points) Highway pegs for leg-air-injection riding posture Occasional lanesplit where appropriate and unprovoking That Camelback suggestion may get my attention. Bill S. / DC / 513 99 VN750 --> Doesn't lather in the heat Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 10:03:36 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27267 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id JAA20237; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:56:36 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from viking.concentric.net (viking [206.173.119.81]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id KAA02419; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:03:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:03:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Wow, never expected this! In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990610073020.012c1b50@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Come try that in DC ... I've never heard of ANYBODY getting a DC motor > officer to wave back! > You got me there. On the other hand it's pretty rare for me to wave to other bikes when I'm in DC anyways. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 10:05:58 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27346 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:01:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: driving while HOT Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:01:24 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I've been doing OK by putting my helmet and gloves in > the company > fridge for about 1/2 hour before leaving. Brave soul... I'm afraid to even OPEN the fridge here, much less put something I own inside.. Last time I got a peak, there were more green things gorwing in there than a comertial green-house... :P Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 10:07:24 1999 Return-Path: schelzig@XXXXXX Received: from research.circ.gwu.edu (research.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.250]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27356 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by research.circ.gwu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04854; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:09:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Erik Schelzig To: "Horstman, Tracy L" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: driving while HOT In-Reply-To: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655FD8@emss09m05.ems.lmco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I agree with Tracey's assesmnet of the Camel Back. Especially Item 4. I've always felt the Camel Back should come complete with Camel Catheter! Erik. On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Horstman, Tracy L wrote: > Camelbaks are great - > > 1.) I have a 50oz, keeps my back cool even with my leather jacket on - > 2.) H2O stays cold too which keep me cool > 3.) I have a Shoei 700 full face helmet and the "hose" fits up under the > helmet through the front - there's a nice clip on the should to hold the > hose in place while it's not in my mouth > 4.) Having to go pee after drinking so much reminds me to take breaks and > cool down in hot weather so I don't over do. > > > Tracy > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 10:24:43 1999 Return-Path: true911@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27664 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mygamer (client196-126-27.bellatlantic.net [151.196.126.27]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA08984; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:27:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906101427.KAA08984@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: true911@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:11:06 -0400 To: Brian Roach , dc-cycles From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: Buying a trailer In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There's a place up here in Balt. called Jiffy Hitch; they manufacture, sell and rent. Every year before Bike Week, they start building and stockpiling three-rail trailers, rent 'em for the week or so, and sell them "slightly used" throughout the year. I think they were asking about $700 for those. In any case, it sounds like it might be in the ballpark, they will custom-build features for you, and it comes assembled and ready to pull away, presumably with a guarantee. They're also pretty helpful people to talk to, just because they know trailers so well. MET At 01:53 AM 6/10/99 , Brian Roach wrote: > >Ok... I'm taking the plunge and am going to buy a trailer to haul the FZR >to and from the track. > >Anyone have any suggestions as to where I should go to aquire one? >(New or used). > >Found a place on the web where I can order a single-rail trailer with full >size wheels for about $550, and they ship it to you un-assembled, looks >interesting. > >Other than that, I could see buying a utility trailer with side rails. >Is there anywhere local that I could find one? > >Thanks, >- Brian > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX)=A0= http://members.bellatlantic.net/~true911/ 1992 VFR750 (The Crow)=A0=A0=A0 1985 VF500 ('Kitty)=A0=A0=A0 1972 CB350 (In= Hibernation) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 10:27:50 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mail.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27763 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:27:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199906101027.AA4128978@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX, schelzig@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: driving while HOT X-Mailer: Erik Schelzig wrote: >I agree with Tracey's assesmnet of the Camel Back. Especially Item 4. >I've always felt the Camel Back should come complete with Camel >Catheter! Here you go. http://www.choicemall.com/stadiumpal/ Although I don't think female riders would find much use in this link. :) Dale (and NO, I don't have one. :) -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 10:40:57 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27977 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AE73190101D6; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:40:51 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990610103559.012f3b20@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:37:53 -0400 To: "Horstman, Tracy L" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: driving while HOT In-Reply-To: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655FD8@emss09m05.ems.lmc o.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:30 AM 6/10/99 , Horstman, Tracy L wrote: >Camelbaks are great - >4.) Having to go pee after drinking so much reminds me to take breaks and >cool down in hot weather so I don't over do. I thought that's what the second hose on the CamelBak was for? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 10:45:30 1999 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28142 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:45:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.MIL ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08328 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:07:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:44:32 -0400 Message-ID: <6B6E7568D1C6D211A48C00600832A5B10E2F60@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LT" To: "'dc'" Subject: FW: Good motorcycle leather suits Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:44:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Forwarding this from the CAMS group... look like decent suits in the pics... and if you needed knee sliders added, Intuitive Racing (on the web) sells a neat little kit with both the knee pucks and the velcro backing to have sewn on the leathers... I haven't heard of that particular leather brand though...Coleen may be able to shed some light on their quality/durability.... Collin > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Good motorcycle leather suits > > Hey all, > I have been looking for a place that sells a good leather suit > with > body > armor, which these do. I purchased mine on Tuesday and they'll be in Fri > or > Sat. I heard from another guy in my mailling list that they suit was > really > good quality stitching and leather. I will let you know more when they > come > in, if ya want. > I just thought I would share some exciting news for those who > might be > looking to buy some leathers. > > > Here is where the 7 styles can be viewed at: > Price is $250 > about $267 shipped > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=114311035 > > > > Thad From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 10:55:04 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28283 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA16469 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:51:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: driving while HOT In-Reply-To: <199906101027.AA4128978@tidalwave.net> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Horkster wrote: > Here you go. http://www.choicemall.com/stadiumpal/ The truly amusing page here is: http://home.fuse.net/stadiumpalsizer/ Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 10:55:31 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA28292 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:55:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:54:28 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:54:27 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:52:15 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX, schelzig@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: driving while HOT -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Catheter? Check with the Iron Butt folks! >>> Erik Schelzig - 6/10/99 10:09 AM >>> I agree with Tracey's assesmnet of the Camel Back. Especially Item 4. I've always felt the Camel Back should come complete with Camel Catheter! Erik. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 10:58:47 1999 Return-Path: schelzig@XXXXXX Received: from research.circ.gwu.edu (research.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.250]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28371 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:58:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by research.circ.gwu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06873; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:00:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Erik Schelzig To: Horkster cc: "'dc'" , Biggles Egan Subject: RE: driving while HOT In-Reply-To: <199906101027.AA4128978@tidalwave.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is very disturbing stuff - epecially the sizing chart. Yikes! Erik On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Horkster wrote: > >I agree with Tracey's assesmnet of the Camel Back. Especially Item 4. > >I've always felt the Camel Back should come complete with Camel >Catheter! > > Here you go. http://www.choicemall.com/stadiumpal/ > > Although I don't think female riders would find much use > in this link. :) > > Dale (and NO, I don't have one. :) > From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 11:19:14 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA28822 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:19:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id LAA28564; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:19:10 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from viking.concentric.net (viking [206.173.119.81]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id LAA00583; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:19:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: "Fagan, Collin LT" cc: "'dc'" Subject: Re: FW: Good motorcycle leather suits In-Reply-To: <6B6E7568D1C6D211A48C00600832A5B10E2F60@MSCEX> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to get leather suits fitted after you purchase them. Is there any way to know what size suit is likely to fit? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 11:23:46 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net (chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.98]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA28911 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:23:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by chi6sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgtab15863; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:23:41 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8525678C.0054CC44 ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:26:13 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: Erik Schelzig cc: Horkster , "'dc'" , Biggles Egan Message-ID: <8525678C.0054CB2A.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:15:07 -0400 Subject: RE: driving while HOT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline EWWWWW! (although I must say, with the women's lines for bathrooms usually outstripping men's ten-fold, I'm surprised there isn't a women's version!) ; ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Erik Schelzig on 06/10/99 11:00:25 AM To: Horkster cc: "'dc'" , Biggles Egan (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: RE: driving while HOT This is very disturbing stuff - epecially the sizing chart. Yikes! Erik From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 11:43:49 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA29264 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:43:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 10 Jun 1999 18:44:18 UT Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:40 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Erik Schelzig" , "horkster@XXXXXX" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "seamusegan@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:RE: driving while HOT Message-ID: <19990610114241220-a8cf954@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Laughed my ass off when I saw it... was on the phone with Jeannette at the time... Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: RE: driving while HOT Author: schelzig@XXXXXX (Erik Schelzig) Date: 6/10/99 11:00 AM This is very disturbing stuff - epecially the sizing chart. Yikes! Erik On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Horkster wrote: > >I agree with Tracey's assesmnet of the Camel Back. Especially Item 4. > >I've always felt the Camel Back should come complete with Camel >Catheter! > > Here you go. http://www.choicemall.com/stadiumpal/ > > Although I don't think female riders would find much use > in this link. :) > > Dale (and NO, I don't have one. :) > From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 11:51:44 1999 Return-Path: schelzig@XXXXXX Received: from research.circ.gwu.edu (research.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.250]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29491 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by research.circ.gwu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08541; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:53:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:53:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Erik Schelzig To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX cc: Horkster , "'dc'" , Biggles Egan Subject: [Increasingly off MC-topic] RE: driving while HOT In-Reply-To: <8525678C.0054CB2A.00@172.16.2.37> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You could always try this - but I'm not sure how it would work on a motorcycle: http://shop.gorp.com/magellans/product.asp?dept%5Fid=31&product%5Fid=1323&sku=TW442 Erik On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > > > EWWWWW! > (although I must say, with the women's lines for bathrooms usually outstripping > men's ten-fold, I'm surprised there isn't a women's version!) ; ) > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > > > > Erik Schelzig on 06/10/99 11:00:25 AM > > > To: Horkster > cc: "'dc'" , Biggles Egan > (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) > Subject: RE: driving while HOT > > > > > > > This is very disturbing stuff - epecially the sizing chart. Yikes! > Erik > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 12:48:36 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00615 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AC5F3BB0256; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:48:31 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990610112918.012f5aa0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:29:57 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: driving while HOT -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I think Morris Krumpke (sp?) merely uses a funnel and tube. No one tailgates him. Chris Norloff At 10:52 AM 6/10/99 , you wrote: >Catheter? Check with the Iron Butt folks! > >>>> Erik Schelzig - 6/10/99 10:09 AM >>>> >I agree with Tracey's assesmnet of the Camel Back. Especially Item 4. >I've always felt the Camel Back should come complete with Camel >Catheter! >Erik. > From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 12:48:36 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00614 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AC5E3BB0256; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:48:30 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990610112746.012fdd40@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:28:58 -0400 To: DC-Cycles Mailing List From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: driving while HOT In-Reply-To: References: <199906101027.AA4128978@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:51 AM 6/10/99 , Kirk Roy wrote: >On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Horkster wrote: >> Here you go. http://www.choicemall.com/stadiumpal/ > >The truly amusing page here is: >http://home.fuse.net/stadiumpalsizer/ > >Kirk Boy, sure is hard to stand up next to the computer screen to compare sizes. Also, since size is rather variable, is this a measure of how much you like to ride your motorcycle? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 12:50:45 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00702 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:50:40 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (4533) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2ANTa13485 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9dd9032d.249146b8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:50:00 EDT Subject: Re: driving while HOT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 ROTFLMAO wouldn't you feel it warming upt he tube on its way down your leg??????? oh my gods I'm laughing so hard I can hardly see marcy In a message dated 6/10/99 11:05:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kirk@XXXXXX writes: << > Here you go. http://www.choicemall.com/stadiumpal/ The truly amusing page here is: http://home.fuse.net/stadiumpalsizer/ >> From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 13:03:36 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00885 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AFE3734020E; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:03:31 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990610125608.012a84c0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:00:35 -0400 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: driving while HOT In-Reply-To: <8525678C.0054CB2A.00@172.16.2.37> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:15 AM 6/10/99 , Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: >EWWWWW! >(although I must say, with the women's lines for bathrooms usually outstripping >men's ten-fold, I'm surprised there isn't a women's version!) ; ) Just in case that comment was not merely rhetorical ... A Woman's Guide on How to Pee Standing Up http://www.restrooms.org/methoda.html Combining this technique with various devices available would seem to give women more choices than they have now. Unfortunately, my household (me and 5 women) informs me that none of these choices are very desirable. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 13:13:29 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01093 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:13:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id NAA04984; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:13:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:13:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: George Howell cc: dc-cycles Subject: RE: Buying a trailer In-Reply-To: <001801beb309$13156780$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, George Howell wrote: > Do you have the url for the site where you found the trailer 'kit'? www.motorcycletrailer.com And it's actually $625 now that I read it again (including shipping and the large wheels) - Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 13:15:29 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mail.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01179 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:15:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:15:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199906101315.AA8650982@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, schelzig@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, seamusegan@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [Increasingly off MC-topic] RE: driving while HOT X-Mailer: OK, this is my last post on this subject. But I can't resist. If none of the mentioned products seem to work for you, there's always one more option available... :) http://www.bumperdumper.com/ Dale (no, haven't tried this one either...) ;) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Erik Schelzig Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:53:19 -0400 (EDT) > >You could always try this - but I'm not sure how it would work on a >motorcycle: -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 13:17:34 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mail.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01207 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:18:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199906101318.AA131170@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: RE: driving while HOT X-Mailer: Chris Norloff wrote: >>The truly amusing page here is: >>http://home.fuse.net/stadiumpalsizer/ >> >>Kirk >Boy, sure is hard to stand up next to the computer screen to compare >sizes. LOL! This is the best post by far today! Thanks for the laugh. :) Dale -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 13:21:31 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01310 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:21:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id NAA05005; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:21:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:21:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: Chris Norloff cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: stolen bike In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990610073145.012cf1d0@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Chris Norloff wrote: > I saw a neat "ground fastener" at Coleman in Falls Church the other day - > basically a metal plate that fastens to concrete with three bolts, then the > bolt heads are covered with a plate. A large eyebolt sticks up for a cable > (preferably one of those "solid-metal cables" to go through. The plate > covering the boltheads won't come up without removing the cable first. I bought one of those from coleman after my YZF was stolen this spring. So far, it's been working just fine :) I highly recommend an impact drill if you get one... a 3/4" hand-held drill and a 1/2" masonry bit took me about 2 hours to drill the holes. Also recommended - Kryptonite "NY Chain". It comes with a disc lock, and a little form you fill out and send to them. If the lock and chain are defeated by theives, Kryptonite will pay your insurance deductable or up to $2000 if you do not have theft insurance. The combination of these two things have helped me sleep better and stop having a nervous twitch when I go downstairs in the morning to leave. - Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 13:32:55 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA01540 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 10 Jun 1999 17:32:52 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA18377 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:32:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: driving while HOT In-Reply-To: <199906101318.AA131170@tidalwave.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >>The truly amusing page here is: >>http://home.fuse.net/stadiumpalsizer/ >> >>Kirk >Boy, sure is hard to stand up next to the computer screen to compare >sizes. I knew my co-workers thought I was odd before, but when I was sitting there teabagging my monitor, I know I took them to new heights. On the other hand, these computer screen wipes came in handy. Get that film off the screen, yaknow. Alex. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 14:01:04 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from web503.yahoomail.com (unknown.yahoo.com [128.11.68.70] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02137 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990610180640.1642.rocketmail@web503.yahoomail.com> Received: from [198.45.18.20] by web503.yahoomail.com; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:06:40 PDT Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:06:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Re: stolen bike To: Chris Norloff , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks, Chris. My "ground fastener" was a heavy iron staircase, but the weak spot was the Kryptonite Barb Wire cable. Scary how easily the thieves cut through it. An alarm might have helped. I had ordered a Xena disc lock/alarm, but I didn't get it soon enough. Sean --- Chris Norloff wrote: > Really sorry to hear that. Keeping bikes from > enterprising thieves becomes > harder and harder. The more you have something they > want to steal, the > harder they'll work. > > I saw a neat "ground fastener" at Coleman in Falls > Church the other day - > basically a metal plate that fastens to concrete > with three bolts, then the > bolt heads are covered with a plate. A large > eyebolt sticks up for a cable > (preferably one of those "solid-metal cables" to go > through. The plate > covering the boltheads won't come up without > removing the cable first. > > That'd probably slow 'em down more. > > > Chris Norloff > Falls Church, Virginia > 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda > CB750F with Jupiter sidecar > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 14:23:38 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02478 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:23:04 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:22:54 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:20:19 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX, redsullivan@XXXXXX Subject: Re: stolen bike -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline this might lead one to fantasize about the following phone call: "Hello, 911? I found some dead guy lying next to my motorcycle this morning . . ." From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 14:42:22 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mail.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02841 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:42:15 -0400 Message-Id: <199906101442.AA32768234@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: stolen bike -Reply X-Mailer: Joe Nagy wrote: >this might lead one to fantasize about the following phone call: > >"Hello, 911? I found some dead guy lying next to my motorcycle this >morning . . ." Why call it in? After a few weeks, the bastard's stinking, rotting corpse might be a pretty good theft deterrent all by itself. I feel really bad for you, Sean. Dang it, having it happen twice is just terrible. Hope it all works out. Dale -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 18:37:34 1999 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA07700 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:37:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl54.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.196]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 6194900 ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:35:48 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: driving while HOT Message-Id: <199906102235.6194900@zzapp.org> On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:28:58 -0400, Chris Norloff wrote: >>> Here you go. http://www.choicemall.com/stadiumpal/ >>The truly amusing page here is: >>http://home.fuse.net/stadiumpalsizer/ >Boy, sure is hard to stand up next to the computer screen to compare sizes. I think that I impressed myself more with the monitor set at 1060x1024 resolution than with the resolution set at 640x480... :) First resolution was good. The second resolution, I don't think I would even fit a medium.... But seriously, I have looked at the camel backs and a couple other brands. I will be getting one, definitely before my trip to Sturgis. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE of Maryland MRF / AMA / HRCA "Misplaced Idahoan" From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 21:06:08 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10581 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA08144 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:06:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA13686 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:06:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (a0215.chantilly.mns.net [206.239.104.247]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA17504; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37608CA8.638D@mnsinc.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:12:24 -0700 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-Cycles Mailing List CC: Gary Foreman Subject: RE: What Tank Protector? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Gary Foreman" > Tank Bra? I have one of those little Mag-Knight tank protectors, but I want > something with more coverage. I ordered a Second-Look bra that was supposed > to match my bike, but it looks like it's for the '98 model, and the colors > don't match, so I'm returning it. > Does anyone have the Mag-Knight magnetic tank protector that wraps around > the tank from side to side? This looks easy to remove and clean etc. Any > feedback is appreciated. I have one on my 95 VFR. It looks pretty sharp IMO. One little problem is that there are two small puckers in the middle where the side panels begin. Not quite enough to annoy me, but not perfect either. Stays on well at any speed I've ever gone, and doesn't move around at all. So yeah, it was worth the $80 I paid for it. JK From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 21:13:07 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10679 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:12:45 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (4543) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rUJGa14474; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:09:08 EDT Subject: Re: stolen bike To: redsullivan@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 6/9/1999 4:34:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, redsullivan@XXXXXX writes: << For the second time in about four months, thieves stole a bike from me. >> Sean, you are the biggest "Thief Magnet" that I have ever seen. I say that we just park our bikes at your place and go on stake-out. I'm sure we'll be able to catch at least 12+ thieves in a week. :-) Sorry about the bike. I'll keep an eye out. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 21:56:05 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11367 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:56:04 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (14392) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 4OLKa07597; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:54:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:54:48 EDT Subject: Re: Wow, never expected this! To: cnorloff@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 6/10/1999 7:48:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cnorloff@XXXXXX writes: << Come try that in DC ... I've never heard of ANYBODY getting a DC motor officer to wave back! :-) Chris Norloff >> Well then, listen up. I've had it happen to me about 4 times now since I've been riding. Even talked to one on the street one day. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 10 23:27:55 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13124 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-230.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.230]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA14603; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:27:47 -0400 Message-ID: <04c001beb3ba$3e48cd00$1fa4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: , , Subject: Re: Wow, never expected this! Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:26:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Have had three or four very cordial chats with DC MC police officers. A couple mentioned years of biking experience since kids and I'd bet this across the force. Did everyone see the bit about a DC MCPO being hit (I believe fatally) by a red light runner around Memorial Day? Same odds as the rest of us. (Remember seeing on TV -- the Post archives yielded no details.) Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> Would love to be a police bike Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. -----Original Message----- From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: cnorloff@XXXXXX ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 10:00 PM Subject: Re: Wow, never expected this! >In a message dated 6/10/1999 7:48:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >cnorloff@XXXXXX writes: > ><< Come try that in DC ... I've never heard of ANYBODY getting a DC motor > officer to wave back! > > :-) > Chris Norloff >> > >Well then, listen up. I've had it happen to me about 4 times now since I've >been riding. Even talked to one on the street one day. > >Scooter > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 05:54:02 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA20477 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA10907 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:53:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA13013 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from helix.nih.gov (helix.nih.gov [128.231.2.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA04343 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from radix.net (dhcp165112138036.cit.nih.gov [165.112.138.36]) by helix.nih.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA1931567 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:52:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3760DCFD.4FCFD1C@radix.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:55:10 -0400 From: Dave Yates X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-Cycles Subject: Tow truck busted my bike fairing ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To make a long story short, my bike fairing & fork leg were damaged in a towing incident. Owner / operator basically told me too bad. Police wouldn't even bother with it. Don't know his insurance info, only their name, #, etc. Aside from suing them, do I have any other avenues to recover my bike's damages ??? Thanks, -- Dave Yates '97 Cobra #5148 /'90 ZX11 SCOA #1042 / NMA / AMA http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ Systems Analyst Soza & Company, Ltd. IOA / Control-M / R / D Administrator ATG Group Webmaster (301) 496-3760 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 05:59:41 1999 Return-Path: F4Rider@XXXXXX Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (viper.bcbsblue.com [208.146.143.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA20584 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (root@localhost) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id FAA28425 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:59:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com ([199.97.109.162]) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id FAA28421 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:59:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com (root@localhost) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with ESMTP id GAA16476 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 06:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bc41466 ([172.16.4.164]) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with SMTP id GAA16472 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 06:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990611055711.0128a7a0@ns2.pgcc.net> X-Sender: brad@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:57:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Brad Subject: Crashing *really* sucks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That is a sickening sound as your bike slides down the road... While leaving my neighborhood this morning, my bike's rear end decided to swing all the way to one side, then all the way to the other, then part ways with my body. What fun! After managing to right the bike, I took a look around on the road -- appeared to be a lot of oil, and I can only guess that's what caused the crash. Doing a quick examine in the dark (it was 4:45am) showed that the engine cover and left fairing is rashed. Left mirror is broken. Turn signal looks a little bent, easily fixed. I'll do a better check-over when I get home this afternoon. I know racers often sell their stock fairing, so if any of the racers on the list know of someone selling a left side panel for a red CBR 600 F4 and / or the left mirror, please let me know. Thanks, Brad From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 07:57:01 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA22358 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA14007 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA05406 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A9831E97010C; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:56:51 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990611073032.012f4950@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:40:18 -0400 To: DC-Cycles From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Tow truck busted my bike fairing ! In-Reply-To: <3760DCFD.4FCFD1C@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:55 AM 6/11/99 , Dave Yates wrote: >To make a long story short, my bike fairing & fork leg were damaged in a >towing incident. Owner / operator basically told me too bad. Police >wouldn't even bother with it. Don't know his insurance info, only their >name, #, etc. Aside from suing them, do I have any other avenues to >recover my bike's damages ??? First be sure it's worth the hassle - how much the damage is versus what else you could be doing in life instead of continuing to deal with this asshole. If you decide to proceed then write a polite, firm letter with a deadline for them to contact you to resolve their damage. Then continue to escalate as necessary. Complaints to the Better Business Bureau, consumer protection organization, or State Corporation Commission (which licenses business to operate in the state) may have the desired effect. People hate to have governments snooping about, so find out what gov't agencies you can use - most likely licensing agencies - to sic on him. You might find out if he's AAA-rated or anything, and notify them. If he's licensed to operate interstate, the ICC (Interstate Commerce Commision) can be involved. Check the sides of the truck for any permits or licensing numbers so you can notify the issuing agencies. He would need a CDL (Commercial Drivers License) to operate the truck, so you might try the Division of Motor Vehicles and report that he's operating the truck in a negligent manner. You might be able to recover damages from your own insurance company (vehicle or homeowner's) though I always worry about them raising my rates. Court action is worth it only if there's some big bucks involved. Even then, you'll be law which may or may not be justice, and you'll have to pay an attorney. This also raises the stakes, and makes counter action from the tow operator more likely. sometimes life sucks, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 09:29:12 1999 Return-Path: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23842 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:29:10 -0400 (EDT) From: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from TZimm2450@XXXXXX (4242) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2JUSa14117 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35e5e7af.249268f0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:28:16 EDT Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 I can't blame you there. I rode the other day to Best Buy wearing sneakers, shorts, and T-shirt. Squid Attire! But I would rather be a comfortable squid than a miserable biker. Highway running I still wear boots and jeans, No jacket. I don't see how anyone can wear leather gear in 90+ weather. Trevor 98YZF600 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 09:49:27 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24166 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA15226 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.zen-data.com (mail.zen-data.com [207.152.129.106]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA07186 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (vulture [209.249.185.69]) by www.zen-data.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA11317; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:49:05 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990611094340.00abae60@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:49:03 -0400 To: Dave Yates , DC-Cycles From: Troutman Subject: Re: Tow truck busted my bike fairing ! In-Reply-To: <3760DCFD.4FCFD1C@radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:55 AM 6/11/99 , Dave Yates wrote: >To make a long story short, my bike fairing & fork leg were damaged in a >towing incident. Owner / operator basically told me too bad. Police >wouldn't even bother with it. Don't know his insurance info, only their >name, #, etc. Aside from suing them, do I have any other avenues to >recover my bike's damages ??? Was this Willow Springs by chance? Other Avenues =========== 1. A 9mm and his checkbook 2. A lawyer....even a bad one..... 3. Your insurance company should take care of it for you 4. Call AAA if they are approved. Rat on them. 5. Call BBB and rat on them. 6. Call any gas stations they service, pretend to be a regular customer, and rat on them. 7. Thumbscrews 8. Etc....and good luck. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 09:51:28 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24255 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A45D5A80256; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:51:25 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990611094947.013073f0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:51:14 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... In-Reply-To: <35e5e7af.249268f0@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:28 AM 6/11/99 , TZimm2450@XXXXXX wrote: >I can't blame you there. I rode the other day to Best Buy wearing sneakers, >shorts, and T-shirt. Squid Attire! But I would rather be a comfortable >squid than a miserable biker. Highway running I still wear boots and jeans, >No jacket. >I don't see how anyone can wear leather gear in 90+ weather. >Trevor That's one of the reasons a number of people have switched to fabric suits like the Aerostich. And those fast-on, fast-off zippers make it nice when you get where you're going -- it's easy to get down to t-shirt and shorts within seconds of stopping. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 09:56:43 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24288 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:56:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 06:53:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: I Guess I'm Strange... Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 06:53:21 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > No jacket. > I don't see how anyone can wear leather gear in 90+ weather. > Maybe I'm the strange one... I'd rather be hot, miserable and safe than roadrashed for life. Had to watch a friend in Montana have his left arm scrubbed (brillo pad) without any pain-killers - he passed out from the pain. From my understanding, that's standard procedure... Thanks, I'm a wuss - I'll just sweat a little bit. But hey.. you're free to make the choice you want.. :) That's the good news. Brian *still recovering from my accident 4 months ago* McCoy From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 10:13:02 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24647 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15519 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07723 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.27]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:08:20 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Chris Norloff" , "DC-Cycles" Subject: RE: Tow truck busted my bike fairing ! Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:12:38 -0400 Message-ID: <000401beb414$76290d20$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990611073032.012f4950@mail.toward.com> Importance: Normal > Court action is worth it only if there's some big bucks involved. Even > then, you'll be law which may or may not be justice, and you'll > have to pay > an attorney. This also raises the stakes, and makes counter action from > the tow operator more likely. Why does it have to involve paying an attorney if you go to small claims? ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 10:22:12 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com ([206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24837 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id KAA06024 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:21:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:21:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... In-Reply-To: <35e5e7af.249268f0@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 11 Jun 1999 TZimm2450@XXXXXX wrote: > I can't blame you there. I rode the other day to Best Buy wearing sneakers, > shorts, and T-shirt. Squid Attire! But I would rather be a comfortable > squid than a miserable biker. Highway running I still wear boots and jeans, > No jacket. > I don't see how anyone can wear leather gear in 90+ weather. Since most accidents happen on secondary roads (cars pulling out in front of you, pedestrians, etc), your chances of winding up with gravel imbedded inyour arms is far greater around town wearing squidly attire. I have a nifty venalated (sp?) leather jacket from tecnic and a pair of kevlar lined jeans that do just fine at 90+ degrees. - Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 10:23:51 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24847 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:23:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15641 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web502.yahoomail.com (unknown.yahoo.com [128.11.68.69] (may be forged)) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA07916 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990611142440.1842.rocketmail@web502.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web502.yahoomail.com; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:24:40 PDT Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:24:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Re: What Tank Protector? To: Gary Foreman , DC-Cycles Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I had a black Mag-Knight on one sportbike, and a Second Look bra on the next. The Mag-Knight fit very well, did not allow water or dirt between it and the tank (I didn't have to remove it for washing) and protected the area it covered. The biggest advantage the Second Look had was that it provides a little more coverage because it is higher than the Mag-Knight. The Mag Knight also had slight cosmetic shortcomings: faded from the sun after a year and a half and it had a wrinkle like the one John Kozyn described. Sean Sullivan --- Gary Foreman wrote: > Tank Bra? I have one of those little Mag-Knight > tank protectors, but I want > something with more coverage. I ordered a > Second-Look bra that was supposed > to match my bike, but it looks like it's for the '98 > model, and the colors > don't match, so I'm returning it. > > Does anyone have the Mag-Knight magnetic tank > protector that wraps around > the tank from side to side? This looks easy to > remove and clean etc. Any > feedback is appreciated. > > Gary W. Foreman > EMAIL: gforeman@XXXXXX > WEB: http://www.fj1100.com > '99-TL1000R | '88-KX250 | '85-FJ1100 > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 10:29:19 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24959 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15684 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA08000 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:28:59 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:28:56 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:26:42 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Tow truck busted my bike fairing ! -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Chris, What a thoughtful response! Making the asshole's life a bureaucratic nightmare would be far more effective than the caveman tactics that had popped into my mind (ruining tires, zip-stripping bodywork, stuffing roadkill into the truck's nooks and crannies). I think my Granddaddy was right: "Revenge is a plate best served cold." Joe (God forgives, I don't) Nagy From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 10:32:07 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25043 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15712 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA08101 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id ADE199901A6; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:32:01 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990611101606.0130c820@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:17:52 -0400 To: "DC-Cycles" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Tow truck busted my bike fairing ! In-Reply-To: <000401beb414$76290d20$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> References: <4.1.19990611073032.012f4950@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:12 AM 6/11/99 , George Howell wrote: >> Court action is worth it only if there's some big bucks involved. Even >> then, you'll be law which may or may not be justice, and you'll >> have to pay >> an attorney. This also raises the stakes, and makes counter action from >> the tow operator more likely. > >Why does it have to involve paying an attorney if you go to small claims? It doesn't - good point. I was thinking of getting legal advice, plus if the truck operator shows up with a lawyer I bet you'll really want your own legal expert and advocate (lawyer), too. That's sure the way I felt. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 10:37:46 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25160 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10sSOc-0003tq-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:35:02 -0400 Received: from david500 ([209.70.174.26]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA28593 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003c01beb418$b8469200$1aae46d1@david500.bdanet.com> From: "Dave Cross" To: Subject: Re: Shorts & a T Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:43:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 >I can't blame you there. I rode the other day to Best Buy wearing sneakers, >shorts, and T-shirt. Squid Attire! I don’t share the same attitude that many on this list have regarding those who choose to ride in shorts and a T-shirt. Yes, wearing leather with armor and a full face helmet is the best protection one can hope to have while riding, but in most street accidents its the "thump" that kills you not the slide. So if someone is wearing a T-shirt, shorts and a helmet I reason that they are assuming a trade-off: They are acknowledging that yes they will get road-rash and banged up (read: not life-threatening) if they crash, but because they are wearing their helmet they are not putting their life in any more jeopardy than anyone else on a motorcycle (I am assuming they are wearing their helmet for the reasons above, rather than because the law requires them to do so). Yes I have heard of people dying from road-rash, but that is the exception not the rule. My point is that helmets protect against life-threatening injuries while leather/armor protect against generally non-life-threatening injuries. I believe it would be difficult to point to many accidents that one could say, "if only he had been wearing leather than he would be here today." For what its worth I wear jeans, a leather jacket and full-face helmet 99% or the time. However, I don’t kid myself (well sometimes I do) that my jeans offer any protection, and my leather jacket has no armor and after crashing on the race track I know just how important armor is in a crash. I have also watched as my brother had gravel "brushed" out of his skin from a 40mph slide in bicycle shorts and shirt (he races bicycles and crashed coming down a hill, ouch!) and it didn’t look like much fun. So the choice is yours and I wont fault you either way. Dave Cross 90 FZR400 (race) 94 VFR750 (street) From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 10:37:50 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from web507.yahoomail.com (web507.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.74]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25168 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990611143902.18171.rocketmail@web507.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web507.yahoomail.com; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:39:02 PDT Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:39:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Re: stolen bike To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I certainly feel like a thief magnet. If anyone feels up to a stake-out, bring your bikes, your guns and your bad attitudes and feel free to camp out at my place. I've had all kinds of ideas like this in the last couple of days. Besides the stake-out, I have pictured a DC Cycles dragnet sweeping the city, and me volunteering for a program in which the DC Police plant a homing device on a bike. But in reality, who has time to devote to watching a bike 24 hours? Only the bike thief. And since the DC Police didn't even want to dust my gate and cable for finger prints, I can't see them getting excited about planting a homing device, much less having such a thing. Thanks to everybody for keeping an eye out. Sean --- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > Sean, you are the biggest "Thief Magnet" that I have > ever seen. I say > that we just park our bikes at your place and go on > stake-out. I'm sure > we'll be able to catch at least 12+ thieves in a > week. :-) Sorry about the > bike. I'll keep an eye out. > > Scooter > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 11:06:31 1999 Return-Path: ewinslow@XXXXXX Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25709 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:06:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (ewinslow@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24338; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:06:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:06:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Winslow To: Sean Sullivan cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: stolen bike In-Reply-To: <19990611143902.18171.rocketmail@web507.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Sean Sullivan wrote: > the bike thief. And since the DC Police didn't even > want to dust my gate and cable for finger prints, I This is interesting because when I've had attempted thefts of my bike and notified the cops (2 occassions) the police in the 4th District dusted for prints each time. Found a good print one of the times. They weren't exactly hopeful of finding the lowlife, but at least they put some effort out. Eric (in DC and glad that my bikes don't attract professional theifs) '94 KLR 650 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 11:26:18 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.zen-data.com (mail.zen-data.com [207.152.129.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25966 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (vulture [209.249.185.69]) by www.zen-data.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA11642; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:26:08 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990611111800.019f0c20@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:26:04 -0400 To: Eric Winslow From: Troutman Subject: DC Police (was Re: stolen bike) Cc: Sean Sullivan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: References: <19990611143902.18171.rocketmail@web507.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:06 AM 6/11/99 , Eric Winslow wrote: >This is interesting because when I've had attempted thefts of my bike and >notified the cops (2 occassions) the police in the 4th District dusted for >prints each time. Found a good print one of the times. They weren't >exactly hopeful of finding the lowlife, but at least they put some effort >out. My parents own a company and large warehouse in NE DC, right off of Bladensburg Road. Back when I worked for them, I recieved the Wells Fargo alarm call. They notified us, then the police. We drove out there from NoVA and beat the cops to the scene. A 45 - 60 minute drive! At one point, a 15' cube truck was stolen from a driver while delivering to the State Department. They caught the guy when one of our other drivers spotted the truck in an ally 2 months later! He was caught putting groceries into the back end! He had been driving it like a car, parking it in front of his house on a busy street. Mind you, this is a big truck - like a short tractor-trailer, with a huge sign on the side that he had tried to scrape off (unsuccessfully). Remember when the DC Police was getting ANOTHER pay cut because of crack-head Barry? Right about then my roommate at the time had reserve duty with 2 DC cops. Both cops said they had given up on all the little stuff and the really dangerous stuff. No more ticketing people for running stop lights, and no more putting their lives on the line in some of the worse areas. Passive resistance. I don;t know how much of that still exists, but they are still one of the worst paid forces in the country, dealing with one of the highest crime rates in the country. What a mess. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 12:37:08 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27277 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AB1F602B0078; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:36:47 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990611113047.01314f10@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:32:27 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: stolen bike In-Reply-To: <19990611143902.18171.rocketmail@web507.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:39 AM 6/11/99 , Sean Sullivan wrote: > I >can't see them getting excited about planting a homing >device, much less having such a thing. What about a LoJack? (sp?) You plant the homing device, the police have the scanner. I should think you could rent the scanner. Anyway, it's more suited to LA than here, but it might help your peace of mind. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 13:12:13 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27928 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:12:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) id <0FD600601AA8BR@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:08:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) with ESMTP id <0FD6003ZVA853V@XXXXXX>; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:07:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta04.mcit.com (omzmta04.mcit.com [166.37.194.122]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA16674; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:08:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta04.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990611170716.QAYN632@toddnt>; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:07:16 +0000 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:04:41 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Shorts & a T In-reply-to: <003c01beb418$b8469200$1aae46d1@david500.bdanet.com> To: Dave Cross , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <001a01beb42c$7f0446e0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal David Cross wrote: > > >I can't blame you there. I rode the other day to Best Buy wearing > sneakers, > >shorts, and T-shirt. Squid Attire! > > I don’t share the same attitude that many on this list have > regarding those > who choose to ride in shorts and a T-shirt. Yes, wearing leather > with armor > and a full face helmet is the best protection one can hope to have while > riding, but in most street accidents its the "thump" that kills > you not the > slide. At the risk of adding bonfire flames to the coals, I'd like to use the helmet debate (whether to wear one or not, not the laws that impose them) to illustrate a point. First the point: motorcycling is risky, and most riders accept that. Everyone here who rides a motorcycle has accepted the risk of riding a motorcycle, either contiously or not. Not everyone here who rides accepts the same risks. Some of us are willing to ride a motorcycle (even a bicycle) without the attire that would reduce the risks of bodily injury or death, thus raising the level of risk of riding a motorcycle. Others would never consider mounting a bike without full leathers, boots, helmet, etc., and thus (supposedly) reducing the level of risk of riding a motorcycle. Personally, I am generally concerned about being able to walk and talk for the rest of my life and therefore, like David, dress for a crash 99% of the time. Every now and then I don't (doff jacket at most) and when I do, I'm particularly cautious. But I accept the risk. And for an informed and conscious rider, understanding the risks seem to be more important in terms of how we react to them, than stumbling upon the need to address them. True squids are not conscious of the risks they have accepted when they ride. Neither do a large population of cagers. But my point is that most riders understand the risks involved while riding a motorcycle. This is why I empathize with those who would consciously choose not to wear a helmet, leather jacket, boots, whatever. I don't always agree, but I understand. Todd From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 14:40:30 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29324 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA18976 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.zen-data.com (mail.zen-data.com [207.152.129.106]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14582 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (vulture [209.249.185.69]) by www.zen-data.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA11925; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:39:52 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990611143148.00adc9f0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:36:24 -0400 To: Viewer_Relations@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: The Secret History of Bikers Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <8525678D.0063B604.00@smtp2.discovery.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:13 PM 6/11/99 , you wrote: >I'm thinking that you saw the first one, but maybe not the second. I don't >think the second goes into specifics about which type of bike as much as into >the history of the bikers themselves. > >For more information about schedules and programming, check out ?On TV? on; our >website, www.discovery.com. If you have any further inquiries or comments, you >may contact us via e-mail or call us toll free at 1-888-404-5969, Monday >through >Friday, 8 AM to 6 PM (ET). Thanks again for taking the time to write. Just so you know, I did see both. I'm on a couple of e-mail lists for motorcycle groups (dc-cycles and HondaVFR List) and the topic of the 'Secret History of Bikers' was a hot one on Monday. 6 separate people came away with the same conclusion that I did - the show was Harley-centric, covered no other brands of MC (other than the American made Indian and short lived Excelsior), and was limited in scope. I'm not saying you have to answer to me - I am sure there are a lot of happy Harley viewers that watched the program - just something to think about for future releases on the topic. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 14:40:04 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29321 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA18964 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.zen-data.com (mail.zen-data.com [207.152.129.106]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14570 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:39:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (vulture [209.249.185.69]) by www.zen-data.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA11919; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:38:31 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990611143148.00adc9f0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:36:24 -0400 To: Viewer_Relations@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: The Secret History of Bikers Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <8525678D.0063B604.00@smtp2.discovery.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:13 PM 6/11/99 , you wrote: >I'm thinking that you saw the first one, but maybe not the second. I don't >think the second goes into specifics about which type of bike as much as into >the history of the bikers themselves. > >For more information about schedules and programming, check out ?On TV? on; our >website, www.discovery.com. If you have any further inquiries or comments, you >may contact us via e-mail or call us toll free at 1-888-404-5969, Monday >through >Friday, 8 AM to 6 PM (ET). Thanks again for taking the time to write. Just so you know, I did see both. I'm on a couple of e-mail lists for motorcycle groups (dc-cycles and HondaVFR List) and the topic of the 'Secret History of Bikers' was a hot one on Monday. 6 separate people came away with the same conclusion that I did - the show was Harley-centric, covered no other brands of MC (other than the American made Indian and short lived Excelsior), and was limited in scope. I'm not saying you have to answer to me - I am sure there are a lot of happy Harley viewers that watched the program - just something to think about for future releases on the topic. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 15:00:20 1999 Return-Path: ewinslow@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA29765 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:00:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA06067 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (ewinslow@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04411 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:59:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Winslow To: DC Cycles list Subject: Why can't bike servicing be like cage servicing? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey, all. I just gave Free State Cycle a call to ask them about bringing my bike in to have it checked out for a carburation glitch that it has. They told me they would need to be holding on to it for a week and a half. What's up with that? Why can't they handle appointments like car shops do? Who would put up with having to leave their car for a week and a half for their mechanic to check out why 'it ain't running right'? I could see maybe having it for two days because they're not sure how the work is going to flow, but I'm not coughing up my bike for a week and a half just to have it sit in their shop collecting dust. Does anybody know of a shop, Fast Lane Cycles perhaps, that takes bikes in works on them that day or perhaps the next? Also, anybody familiar with the mechanic(s) at The Bike Shop in College Park know if they'd be good for handling a not-so-obvious carburation problem? They've done some small things for me in a very timely fashion, but nothing too involved. Thanks. Eric (I ain't giving up my bike for a week and a half) Winslow '94 KLR650 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 15:08:49 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA29936 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:59:40 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Shorts & a T Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:59:38 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Funny, I actually agree with Todd here.. I think that was well put as well... Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Peer [mailto:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] > This is why I > empathize with those who would consciously choose not to wear > a helmet, > leather jacket, boots, whatever. I don't always agree, but I > understand. > > Todd > > > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 15:59:55 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01062 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:59:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA19945 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:59:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.zen-data.com (mail.zen-data.com [207.152.129.106]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA17294 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:59:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (vulture [209.249.185.69]) by www.zen-data.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA12076 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:59:39 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990611155518.00ae7d10@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:59:38 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Nady PRC-8 Communicator return Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I got my Nady in a couple days ago. Yesterday I tried the FM functions...and I have to say that the auto-tune feature sucks. The concept is that you hit scan and it auto tuns the next station in the spectrum. The downside is that if the station fades a bit, it scans (or trys to scan) up to the next station. I got it to hold 106.7 for about 30 seconds. Most of my ride was static. For some reason it holds the Christian talk station pretty well =0 So, when I installed it (easy) one screw on the headband wouldn't come out. I had to cut the band to install it. Nady said they would take it back, so did Motorcycle Superstore. I'm looking for a refund, then I'll buy the discontinued $75 PRC-8 with manual tuning. Sigh. They also sent my my disc-lock which is nice and compact and hopefully secure. Almost forgot it was on this morning (saw it at the last second) DOH! Beautiful day...need to get out there and ride but I am stuck at work. Bored. Obviously from the volume of posts I have issued today ;-) MT ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 17:59:31 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03102 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA21335 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:59:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA20539 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.38]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:54:49 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Chris Norloff" , "DC-Cycles" Subject: RE: Tow truck busted my bike fairing ! Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:59:11 -0400 Message-ID: <000501beb455$a340b7e0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990611101606.0130c820@mail.toward.com> Importance: Normal Not sure how it works everywhere, but I think that in small claims, you are specifically NOT allowed an attorney. OTOH, as a business manager, if someone brings a small claims suit, I'd probably pay it out of hand. The cost to get legal advice (not even bringing the attorney to court) is likely more than what I'd be sued for. So you can always use the lawsuit as a threat. However, the first thing to do is post the name of the towing co. here. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 18:55:26 1999 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03993 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl54.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.196]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 6613300 ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:53:25 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC Cycles Mail List" , "Todd Peer" Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:01:50 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <001a01beb42c$7f0446e0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Shorts & a T Message-Id: <199906112253.6613300@zzapp.org> On Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:04:41 -0400, Todd Peer wrote: >And for an informed and >conscious rider, understanding the risks seem to be more important in terms >of how we react to them, than stumbling upon the need to address them. True >squids are not conscious of the risks they have accepted when they ride. >Neither do a large population of cagers. But my point is that most riders >understand the risks involved while riding a motorcycle. This is why I >empathize with those who would consciously choose not to wear a helmet, >leather jacket, boots, whatever. I don't always agree, but I understand. I can honestly state that I am more against helmet laws than all of you. I believe that the choice is up to the individual ADULT rider to make their own decision. Most of my life has been spent doing dangerous activities for the thrill. But, I remember back to the old days, when people were not "victims" and capable of taking responsibility for their own actions. I am sickened by the governments actions. Someone walks into a high school, starts popping off rounds, and congress now wants to outlaw guns. Where I come from (Brian, you'll agree), this tragedy would have never happened. Two things: First, kids are educated about guns and have a respect for them. Second, kids are educated about guns and hit what they are aiming at. It may be a sick thought, but had this happened in Blackfoot, Ida., a much smaller school, there would have been hundreds of dead. And, the ones that made it out of the school would have grabbed their guns from their trucks and taken care of the situation, long before the cops got there (to only sit outside and let the dying die like they did in Col.). But, I digress.... An informed rider should be able to judge the situation and decide for themselves what risks they choose to take. I have ridden topless (no helmet), and love the freedom. There is nothing like the feeling of the wind blowing through your hair as you ride. I would never go on a DC Cycles run without wearing one (different style of riding), and my passenger will wear one. I am willing to accept the risk of riding topless, but I will not take on the additional responsibility of a passenger. As for riding gear, I always ride in a tee-shirt when it is warm enough. I know the risk and the benefits, and make my own decision. However, I will not belittle someone for their decision to wear more or less protective gear. It is not my job to make the decisions for others (congress should learn that). I do always wear long pants and boots, but have so since I was about 10 years old, so it is more "me" than is protection. This is the first helmet state that I have lived in. I have observed that about 50% of the riders wear helmets, and I wore one a little more than that percentage of time. Call me a "squid", call me a bad example of bikers. That is your right. And, I will continue to fight for your rights. I guess it is the independent "Westerner" that I am..... Please respect my opinion as I do yours. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE of Maryland MRF / AMA / HRCA "Misplaced Idahoan" From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 20:07:00 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA05238 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:06:59 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (3929) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id mQAWa18640; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:05:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:05:03 EDT Subject: Re: Why can't bike servicing be like cage servicing? To: ewinslow@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 I agree, and thus my bike only gets serviced at a dealer in the spring and winter, and whenever the repairs are beyond my ability. Last time my bike was in the shop (bad stator, and other small probs), they had it for 3 full weeks, and didn't look at it until three days before I got it back. I don't understand why they require one to drop off a bike and leave it for such a length of time before they even look at it. If they know they can't look at it for a week, why not let you bring it in in a week? I have heard that Bob's BMW will look at your bike the same day (often with you still there!), and will even talk you through possible causes/repairs if you call them while broken down on the road! If I could find a shop like that for my Honda, they'd get my business. Rob VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 20:08:52 1999 Return-Path: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA05248 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:08:51 -0400 (EDT) From: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from JimJacks@XXXXXX (14390) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNUSa15352 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8cdaa9d1.2492fecb@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:07:39 EDT Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 06/11/99 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 I knew I liked that Snake guy. (This is not sarchasm) -jim - a bike From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 21:35:14 1999 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA06630 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (a0185.chantilly.mns.net [206.239.104.217]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA14414; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3761E504.65B4@mnsinc.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:41:40 -0700 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles CC: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Trevor wrote: > I can't blame you there. I rode the other day to Best Buy wearing sneakers, > shorts, and T-shirt. Squid Attire! But I would rather be a comfortable > squid than a miserable biker. Highway running I still wear boots and jeans, > No jacket. > I don't see how anyone can wear leather gear in 90+ weather. First, you can't just be "anyone". Only motorcyclists who have experienced hitting pavement will feel strongly that leathers (or a 'Stitch or something similar) are beneficial no matter what the temperature. Anyway, what's wrong with sweating a bit anyway...? Clears the poisons from your system, I understand. It doesn't clear idiocy though ;) JK From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 21:57:44 1999 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07015 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:57:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (a0185.chantilly.mns.net [206.239.104.217]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA14626; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:57:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3761EA4B.24F3@mnsinc.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:04:11 -0700 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles CC: From: Dave Cross Subject: Re: Shorts & a T Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Dave Cross" > I don’t share the same attitude that many on this list have regarding those > who choose to ride in shorts and a T-shirt. Yes, wearing leather with armor > and a full face helmet is the best protection one can hope to have while > riding, but in most street accidents its the "thump" that kills you not the > slide. Yeah Dave, but the thump kills, the slide hurts, ne c'est pas? Big difference in this argument. I don't remember reading that being killed was the normative desired option. > (I am assuming they are > wearing their helmet for the reasons above, rather than because the law > requires them to do so). You assume too much I think... > Yes I have heard of people dying from road-rash, > but that is the exception not the rule. My point is that helmets protect > against life-threatening injuries while leather/armor protect against > generally non-life-threatening injuries. I believe it would be difficult to > point to many accidents that one could say, "if only he had been wearing > leather than he would be here today." Clearly,you have been, so far, a lucky man and have not had to experience serious road rash... > For what its worth I wear jeans, a leather jacket and full-face helmet 99% > or the time. However, I don’t kid myself (well sometimes I do) that my jeans > offer any protection, and my leather jacket has no armor and after crashing > on the race track I know just how important armor is in a crash. I have > also watched as my brother had gravel "brushed" out of his skin from a 40mph > slide in bicycle shorts and shirt (he races bicycles and crashed coming down > a hill, ouch!) and it didn’t look like much fun. So the choice is yours and > I wont fault you either way. I'm less relativistic. Commuting and riding the twisties are way different. Given the latter scenario, I don't even like the idea of people that don't know how to dress for a crash to even ride with me. I find it embarrassing somehow... I just don't like it. To do so connotes a lack of seriousness in purpose. JK From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 22:05:40 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA07181 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (granth@localhost) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id VAA00572; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:58:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Grant Heffernan To: "John C. Kozyn" cc: dc-cycles , TZimm2450@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... In-Reply-To: <3761E504.65B4@mnsinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I agree... I've been on the ground enough to know that I want leather on me if at all possible. I've reached the point where I feel somewhat naked riding in just jeans and my nylon jacket as opposed to wearing both my jacket and my ballistic pants. The choice in my mind is a)sweat a little and forgoe removing gravel from my ass or b)be a little cooler and trust all the cages on the road won't do anything stupid (and trust mylself not to do anything stupid too.)... I'm for "a". But I also think it's your choice, same as it should be with helmets. ********************************* Grant Heffernan SCO Field Systems Engineer 2100 Reston Pkwy, Suite 102 Reston, VA 20191 (703) 715-8721 On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, John C. Kozyn wrote: > Trevor wrote: > > > I can't blame you there. I rode the other day to Best Buy wearing sneakers, > > shorts, and T-shirt. Squid Attire! But I would rather be a comfortable > > squid than a miserable biker. Highway running I still wear boots and jeans, > > No jacket. > > I don't see how anyone can wear leather gear in 90+ weather. > > First, you can't just be "anyone". Only motorcyclists who have > experienced hitting pavement will feel strongly that leathers (or a > 'Stitch or something similar) are beneficial no matter what the > temperature. > > Anyway, what's wrong with sweating a bit anyway...? Clears the poisons > from your system, I understand. > > It doesn't clear idiocy though ;) > > JK > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 22:14:45 1999 Return-Path: F4Rider@XXXXXX Received: from FW2.bluesnet.net (fw2.bluesnet.net [208.146.143.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA07425 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from FW2.bluesnet.net (root@localhost) by FW2.bluesnet.net with ESMTP id WAA24755 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com ([199.97.109.162]) by FW2.bluesnet.net with ESMTP id WAA24751 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com (root@localhost) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with ESMTP id WAA10032; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brad-s-pc ([192.168.90.46]) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with SMTP id WAA10028; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990611215751.007bb4f0@ns2.pgcc.net> X-Sender: brad@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:57:51 -0400 To: NJitzul@XXXXXX, ewinslow@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Brad Subject: Re: Why can't bike servicing be like cage servicing? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:05 PM 6/11/99 EDT, NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: >If I could find a shop like that for my Honda, >they'd get my business. I brought my bike in to Mannassas Honda Thursday evening. They had been upfront before, said they had a 2 week back log, and had scheduled my bike for Friday. They expected to be done the same day. I came to drop the bike off on Thursday, and they took a look at it right there on the spot. Turns out it didn't need servicing, and I was on my way in about 1 - 1.5 hours. Nice folks, even gave me some parts I had, uhhhh, "misplaced" while fidiling around... --Brad '99 (slightly rashed) F4 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 22:35:02 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA07817 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:35:01 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (400) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 8XMKa13485; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:34:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1e950723.24932130@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:34:24 EDT Subject: Re: Why can't bike servicing be like cage servicing? To: F4Rider@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Where is Manassas Honda? I'm not familiar with VA, though I will probably be moving closer to Dulles soon (if I can find a place I can afford). They sound like a decent dealership, and I'll be in the market for another bike before long. :) Rob 83 Shadow 750 (also slightly rashed up, thus the name... ) "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 22:50:42 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08113 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:50:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (216-164-237-225.s225.tnt9.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.237.225]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA18704 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:53:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 99 22:39:54 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: FW: NoVA HSTA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII i recently sent this to area HSTA members, garnered from the membership booklet, but I realized I might have missed some people, and others might be curious, so.... For those interested in learning more about HSTA, look at www.ridehsta.com Open to all, not just honda as the name might suggest. Anyways, who on the list(ignoring the HSTA type thing would be interested in a regular meeting? Say some Saturday or Sunday of everymonth for breakfast and a long ride? Seems like there are a lot of riders in the area, and a lot of groups(CAMS, dc-cycles, PARR, NOVAMGR, but no one except PARR meets regular, and they do it for dinner, which sorta precludes the ride thing. Read it over, think about it, and drop me a line. Any Sat or Sun is fine except 3rd sunday, and my criteria for location are pretty simple: Food not completely toxic. Room we can take over and be loud in, eventually Close access to the major slab(beltway/66, so people can get there easily. Close access to decent roads(cause riding slab really sucks, and twisties are fun) If possible, near McLean, cause that's where I am and I'm lazy. This is the least important criteria. So feel free to suggest time/place, I'm aiming for first gathering 2nd sat in July, thus avoiding the 4th. If, however, everyone is going to vintage days in Ohio, that doesnt make sense. Also, if someone could volunteer to plan and lead a ride for that day it would be great-I can handle doing map sheets, but don't know the roads well enough to do a route. Thanks, Greg --- On Mon, 7 Jun 99 23:24:41 EDT Greg Sachs wrote: >Greetings, none of you know me as yet but I'd like to change that. With >the exception of Keith McCrea, all of you are HSTA members in the >NOVA/maryland near DC area(I believe, but i'm not fully conversant with >the area, so may have included some people that aren't. If so, my >apologies, and drop me a line so I won't include you in the future. > >Now, for some background so you understand why I contacted you: > I just arrived here for the forseable future from Cleveland, >having graduated from college. The North East Ohio HSTA group was very >active, and we would meet officially the first sat of every month for >breakfast and a long organized ride. The restaurant was a fairly greasy >spoon, but it was easy to get to and near good roads. They would also >give us the back room, which was important as we would get 40+ bikes on >the first saturdays. Good people, most older than me but I didn't hold >that against them too much;-). These monthly meetings developed into >weekly meetings-much smaller, with maybe 10-15 regulars, who would meet >at the same place for breakfast and a shorter ride, just done without >guide sheets and such. These meetings helped NEO HSTA recruit lots of >new people, especially once the local Ducati and Triumph clubs began >meeting at the same place, on the second and third Sats of each month. >We'd end up with a diverse bunch of bikes, talk over food, and then go >riding. Very nice. >I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this, and I'll admit it is >somewhat selfish: I don't know decent roads in the area. I'd like to >see what the interest in this sort of thing is, and gradually branch out >to the other area HSTA people I didn't contact-the ones without e-mail. >So, what is interest in these meetings? I'd suggest the first saturday, >but the next one is July 3, which I would expect would not be favorable. >Comments? I'm also not real conversant with area grease pits, especially >ones that might be ameniable to being invaded to a (eventual) horde of >scary biker types, so suggestions here are very helpful. The McLean area >is preferred by me, but I'm flexible. The real requirements would be >ready access to the beltway(yeah, slab stinks, but...) and not more than >5-10 miles of slab from interesting roads. I think VA is likely to be >better than MD or DC for this, but I don't know MD that well, so I could >be wrong. >Thanks for reading all the way here, and you can reply either to this >address, or by phone to 703-848-8137. As I said, if I've e-mailed you >and you aren't interested, let me know, it won't happen again. The flip >side is also true, if you know of other hsta members in the area I >haven't contacted, please feel free to forward this to them. I'd like to >get consensus on a possible meeting place and date this week, before >people get too distracted by STAR(which i unfortunately won't make, but >will warn you OH roads are nice, and the turn markings can often be >accurate-also lots of blind turns and dec radius turns. Ride Safe) >Oh, in case I wasn't clear-the monthly and weekly meetings were always >open to all, not just HSTA. thats how we recruited;-) >I've currently sent this to the following people: >VA: >John Castagna >Rusty Chapman >Dale Coyner >John Fox >James Kent >Al Leathers >Todd Peer >John Rivell >Keith McCrea >MD: >Bull Barre >Chris Gwin > >Someone Else(sorry, lost the name->e-mail translation) >Thanks for your time and comments, >Greg Sachs >------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer > ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX > 6/7/99 HSTA/AMA 11:24:42 PM >------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > -----------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/11/99 HSTA/AMA 10:39:54 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 11 22:52:35 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08135 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:52:33 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (8081) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rWDJa10256; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <58cbdc18.249324ec@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:50:20 EDT Subject: Re: stolen bike To: redsullivan@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 6/11/1999 10:37:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, redsullivan@XXXXXX writes: << Besides the stake-out, I have pictured a DC Cycles dragnet sweeping the city, and me volunteering for a program in which the DC Police plant a homing device on a bike. >> Do they make Lo-Jacks for motorcycles? Scooter From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 12 06:50:28 1999 Return-Path: brown@XXXXXX Received: from tiamat.obscure.org (root@XXXXXX [199.34.35.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA18972 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 06:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fryer (adsl3-249.cais.com [209.8.158.249]) by tiamat.obscure.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA18634 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 06:50:23 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990612064441.00954b20@pop.obscure.org> X-Sender: brown@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 06:48:38 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Dan Brown Subject: RCR VIII? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anyone thinking about this? Its one of the older Rec.motorcycles rides: http://www.apocalypse.org/~catness/cat/rcr-viii.html For up to date info (of which there isn't much at the moment) subscribe to the "east" list: http://vger.rutgers.edu/~ravi/bike/lists/east/ -- "We've met the Enemy and He is Us." Walt Kelly From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 12 07:58:13 1999 Return-Path: Gawthrop@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA19897 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 07:58:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Gawthrop@XXXXXX Received: from Gawthrop@XXXXXX (550) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2FPZa10677 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 07:57:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 07:57:38 EDT Subject: Short, Tee Shirts and Helmets To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Interestingly, this subject has gotten a lot of attention BUT, let me recommend the following. 1. Riding, more than anyother activity, is an experience and an expression of freedom. 2. What a person does should be measured in terms of his assessment of the conditions peculiar to him, his bike, the nature of the ride, and the weather at the time of the ride. Overall assessments that people whould or should not wear thus an such INVARIABLY lead down the slippery slope to mandatory helmets, mandatory protective clothing and a criminalization of discretion. 3. This is a subject fraught with emotion and the comments can deterioriate quickly. Motorcyclists, as a group, are under attack by well meaning, non riders who feel uncomfortable with the freedom that we exercise and the risks, real or imagined, that we take. In a real sense, these well meaning people have lit a fire around us and only fools fight in a burning house. 4. RECOMMENDATION: Agree that your definitions of risk and safety is applicable to you but should not be imposed on someone else. Ride freely but stand together to defend other riders from the imposition of outside safety requirements that are generated by people who are not riders. Freedom ain't free and we have to protect freedom of thought within our own ranks. Bill Gawthrop From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 12 08:03:51 1999 Return-Path: Gawthrop@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA20000 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:03:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Gawthrop@XXXXXX Received: from Gawthrop@XXXXXX (550) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 8LDOa08017; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:03:04 EDT Subject: Re: Why can't bike servicing be like cage servicing? To: F4Rider@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Actually, it can be. Notice the Harley Davidson experience. There are a lot of after market shops catering to Harley Davidson that take in the over flow and cut down on the back log. Japanese and European bikes are creating just about the right density where after market shops might - might - be a profitable venture. Once that threshhold is reached, we might see shops springing up to take care of customer demand. Anyone out there good at motorcycle repair that would like to hang out an "Open for Business" sign? From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 12 08:49:35 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA20682 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:49:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA23773 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 07:48:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv13-45.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.109) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma023768; Sat Jun 12 07:48:34 1999 Message-ID: <000701beb4d1$d3a19860$6d72d9ce@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: New 2000 Kawasaki, Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:48:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEB4B0.4B1EB520" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEB4B0.4B1EB520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Neat new Y2K Kawasaki, what surprises me is that it is supposedly air = cooled. Nice blue color though. Looks like standards really are making = a come-back, thank God.... http://pweb.netcom.com/~shephar1/new2000.htm ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEB4B0.4B1EB520 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="New 2000 Kawasaki,.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="New 2000 Kawasaki,.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://pweb.netcom.com/~shephar1/new2000.htm [InternetShortcut] URL=http://pweb.netcom.com/~shephar1/new2000.htm Modified=C0A2C05ED1B4BE01C4 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEB4B0.4B1EB520-- From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 12 11:22:18 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from gecko.troutman.org (root@XXXXXX [209.122.205.82]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23095 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:22:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA01599; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:22:31 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma001596; Sat, 12 Jun 99 11:22:21 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990612111635.009e8380@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:19:51 -0400 To: "Marvin Heilesen" From: Mike T Subject: RE: Shorts & a T Cc: "DC Cycles Mail List" , "Todd Peer" In-Reply-To: <199906112253.6613300@zzapp.org> References: <001a01beb42c$7f0446e0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:01 PM 6/11/99 , Marvin Heilesen wrote: >Someone walks into a high school, starts popping off rounds, and >congress now wants to outlaw guns. Where I come from (Brian, >you'll agree), this tragedy would have never happened. Two >things: First, kids are educated about guns and have a respect >for them. Second, kids are educated about guns and hit what >they are aiming at. It may be a sick thought, but had this >happened in Blackfoot, Ida., a much smaller school, there would >have been hundreds of dead. And, the ones that made it out of >the school would have grabbed their guns from their trucks and >taken care of the situation, long before the cops got there (to >only sit outside and let the dying die like they did in Col.). >But, I digress.... You are wrong if you think it couldn't happen there, and that somehow local kids training somehow makes a difference. I would say that the situation in Kentucky isn't far removed from what you are describing. Would never have happened? Do you honestly belive that? Anyway - you are right about one thing. Helmet laws. Although I would always wear mine, I am firmly against the government forcing me to wear it. I feel weird wearing my seatbelt now, after getting back into biking. I just imagine the irony. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 12 12:22:09 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24004 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:22:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.41]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:07:27 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Ken" , "dc-cycles" Subject: RE: New 2000 Kawasaki, Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:11:41 -0400 Message-ID: <000301beb4ee$41f146a0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <000701beb4d1$d3a19860$6d72d9ce@oemcomputer> Importance: Normal Ken, Bobbled the html a little bit. Forgot to change the url for the picture. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken [mailto:shephar1@XXXXXX] > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 8:48 AM > To: dc-cycles > Subject: New 2000 Kawasaki, > > > Neat new Y2K Kawasaki, what surprises me is that it is supposedly > air cooled. Nice blue color though. Looks like standards really > are making a come-back, thank God.... > > http://pweb.netcom.com/~shephar1/new2000.htm > From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 12 13:36:57 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.4]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25176 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:36:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA19204; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:36:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv11-37.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.37) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma019187; Sat Jun 12 12:35:58 1999 Message-ID: <000a01beb4f9$f9ef0480$255e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "George Howell" , "dc-cycles" References: <000301beb4ee$41f146a0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Subject: Re: New 2000 Kawasaki,http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mckaw/y2kearly.html Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:35:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mckaw/y2kearly.html Yeah, I screwed up, will fix it, cant get logged on to personal web = server now. What I get for being half asleep. anyway heres the story = from Motorcycle online that went up about it. Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: George Howell To: Ken ; dc-cycles Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 12:11 PM Subject: RE: New 2000 Kawasaki, > Ken, >=20 > Bobbled the html a little bit. Forgot to change the url for the = picture. >=20 > ---------------------------------------- > -George Howell > ghowell@XXXXXX > ghowell@XXXXXX > georgehowell@XXXXXX > "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ken [mailto:shephar1@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 8:48 AM > > To: dc-cycles > > Subject: New 2000 Kawasaki, > >=20 > >=20 > > Neat new Y2K Kawasaki, what surprises me is that it is supposedly=20 > > air cooled. Nice blue color though. Looks like standards really=20 > > are making a come-back, thank God.... > >=20 From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 13 16:16:41 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA20679 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:16:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (216-164-237-198.s198.tnt9.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.237.198]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA22797 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:19:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 99 15:57:23 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 06/12/99 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:41:40 -0700 >From: "John C. Kozyn" >To: dc-cycles >CC: TZimm2450@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... >Trevor wrote: >> I can't blame you there. I rode the other day to Best Buy wearing >>sneakers, shorts, and T-shirt. Squid Attire! But I would rather be a >>comfortable squid than a miserable biker. Highway running I still wear >>boots and jeans, >> No jacket. >> I don't see how anyone can wear leather gear in 90+ weather. > >First, you can't just be "anyone". Only motorcyclists who have >experienced hitting pavement will feel strongly that leathers (or a >'Stitch or something similar) are beneficial no matter what the >temperature. > >Anyway, what's wrong with sweating a bit anyway...? Clears the poisons >from your system, I understand. > >It doesn't clear idiocy though ;) > >JK I'd have to disagree, i totalled a bike a 30 or so wearing the following: Cheap AGV gloves)totalled in accident, any faster hands would have been trash. These were leather palm, mesh back, roughly $15-20. Not acceptable performance. Adidas tennis shoes(lost one, no damage to shoes/feet. didn't even rip sock Adidas Warmup pants: tore through/melted on right leg, minor road rash below. Adidas warmup jacket-tore/melted on stomach, right forearm. Adidas soccer Goalie shirt(see where I was coming home from?) melted/tore on right forearm pad, minor rash below. minor tear below stomach tear in warmup T shirt: undamaged Shorts: undamaged Shoei rf700-no damage, did not touch ground. (I dove to ground, slid on hands/stomach/legs, clearly remeber entire accident.) zr600R-totalled Toyota 4 runner that cut me off: minor cosmetic damage to hitch assembly Me: minor road rash, less than experienced in baseball when sliding in shorts or crashing bicycle at 15-20. Sore for a while Result: Gloves/Helmet worn always, except for one ride where I had no choice-was going across campus from friends to home, and he'd left with my gear locked in his room. Jacket: almost always, except when doing short trips around town. Shorts/pants: short trips around town where I'm already wearing shorts I'll keep them on. Highway, jeans minimum. Spirited riding I use my riding pants, Hein Gericke Cordura ones. Highway and spirited riding I'll have my boots, while around town I will often wear sneakers So I've tasted pavement and still sometimes wear shorts-its an educated choice in my case-I know what I'll get from crashing at town speeds, if I don't hit anything, and I can deal with it. Have, with bicycles, numerous times. That said, I'm looking for a perf leather jacket that will work in this heat for more comfort than my nylon Hein Gericke. The honda ones like nice, but the $470 isn't there yet(competition accessories), you're looking at 600 from coleman. As far a squids go, they're making their own choice, just like the RUBs do when they become bad ass harley dudes. Neither one is terribly good for the image of motorcycling-whether it is the Ohio squids, who recently released the "Star Boyz" video, chronicling their life of excitement on the Akron area roads(100+ wheelies through traffic, 130+ lane splitting with traffic at 65, and so on), the video is available if you're curious, or it is the harley dude making trouble to preserve his image, not to mention the load pipes that nearly all non bikers hate, on sportbikes or hogs. Just remember the important thing-2 wheels or 4. Greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/13/99 HSTA/AMA 3:57:23 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 13 16:59:42 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21368 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990613210354.18443.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.122.254.65] by web308.yahoomail.com; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:03:54 PDT Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 14:03:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: stolen bike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii They might by now..... this discussion came up about a year or so ago (right about spring theft time...) and someone called em up and was checking into it... at the time, they said they did not have a model for motorcycles, but one was under development... If I were to buy a new vehicle of any sort, I would install the lo-jack if it were available in my area... out in Kalifornia, the lo-jack equiped cars have had an extremely high theft recovery rate... Collin --- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > Do they make Lo-Jacks for motorcycles? > > Scooter > > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 13 17:08:09 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21534 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc1-s41.wizard.net [206.161.15.71]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA15088 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:08:16 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Subject: What I learned at the GPZ rally... Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:13:37 -0400 Message-ID: <000301beb5e1$9a36bc20$470fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal After 4-5 days of riding in WV, sleeping in a tent, and hanging out with fellow GPZ owners from as far away as Kansas, Indiana and Canada, I can report the following: 1. Never, ever, ever, ever forget your clear visor in your tent if you usually ride with a tinted one. Makes riding in the rain and fog at night really unpleasant! :-) 2. Always assume it's going to rain. Even if it's gorgeous when you head out for the day. The camping gods smiled on me and my tent and belongings stayed dry, even though I left it with the screens open. Other campers were not so fortunate (i.e. sleeping bag floating in a few gallons of water). And, long-term forecasts are for suckers! :-) 3. The bugs are truly heinous in WV after dark. Any bike that is ridden after sunset can proudly be called "Bugslayer." It was literally raining bugs. Ugh! 4. They roll up the sidewalks at 7 pm in rural areas of WV. No gas, no dinner, no nothing! Plan your meal stops accordingly! And, Domino's doesn't deliver! :-) 5. The Boyer Station Restaurant, Motel & Campground is an excellent place to stay. It's located on Route 28, a few miles south of Route 250 (near Cass, Snowshoe, etc.) We paid $4/head for group camping in a nice grassy area. Campsites were $8/night. Motel rooms were around $30/night. The restaurant is open from 8 am - 8 pm (only exception to #4 I saw), and has great food. A huge breakfast was $5, dinners $6 or $7. Not exactly roughing it, I know.. but a great place for a base camp. 6. There *will* be gravel in every right hand turn in WV. Just a question of how much.. a few pebbles or a dump truck full. Be prepared! On the way home I figured out why... the roads don't have paved shoulders, just gravel. In VA the roads seem to have a 12" or so paved shoulder, so gravel doesn't get dragged up onto the road when drivers cut the corner too sharp. 7. WV is just full of wonderful motorcycling roads. I did a 150 mile ride on Wednesday, 300 miles on Thursday and 180 on Friday with very little overlapping. Boyer is about 200 miles away, so I did about a thousand miles over the 5 days. Not quite "Iron Butt" material, but I enjoyed a lot of beautiful scenery along the way. 8. The downside of riding during the week is CONSTRUCTION! Every single day we hit some.. usually with extra delays as we sat and waited for the "Pilot Car" to lead us through the construction zone. Not much fun when it's 90+ degrees. Overall, I had a fun week... and I'm ready to go again! Anyone up for a camping trip? :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 13 17:24:01 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21799 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:24:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc1-s41.wizard.net [206.161.15.71]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA15917 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:24:12 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Subject: GPZ Rally Gear Report Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:29:33 -0400 Message-ID: <000401beb5e3$d42746a0$470fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal After all the advice I got from the list on camping gear, I thought I'd post how everything performed during my trip: 1. Eureka Tetragon 7 Tent - $100 at Campmor. Packed down small, only about 6 lbs, and stayed dry - amazingly dry. Easy to set up. 2. Kelty Le Tour 45 degree Sleeping Bag - about $50 at Campmor. Packed down quite small, weighs about 3 lbs. Nice and toasty for those cool WV nights. 3. Thermarest Self-Inflating Mattress - nice to have. Good for sleeping on your back or stomach, not very good for sleeping on your side (my hip bone would *hurt*). 4. Ventura bag and rack - worked great. Put my clothes and stuff in the bag, and then strapped the tent, sleeping bag and pad to the rack side with webbing straps (Thanks for the hint, Todd!). Very secure, and did not adversely affect the handling of the bike. Tested at 100 mph just to be sure! :-) 5. Lowrance GM100 GPS - the ultimate electronic toy. It was great! It showed every little road in WV. It was nice to see what town was coming up, and to see your turns a few miles in advance. Only downside - don't use "navigate to waypoint" when riding in WV. It's depressing! :-) The distance is shown "as the crow flies" and 30 miles to the campground was really more like 60! Other than that it was cool! Overall I was quite happy with my setup! Thanks for the great advice from everyone! Anita From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 13 17:31:52 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21950 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:31:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc1-s41.wizard.net [206.161.15.71]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA16283 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:32:03 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Subject: Deer vs. GPZ (not mine) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:37:23 -0400 Message-ID: <000601beb5e4$ec7c69a0$470fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal We did lose one GPZ to a deer during the rally. I didn't see the actual accident as a group of four riders opted to head out on their own, rather than ride with the larger group (10 GPZ's, 1 ZRX and 1 VFR800). I led the second group, and we were all following the same route. We came across the accident scene about 15 minutes after it happened, and the rider had already been taken to the hospital by a passerby. Luckily (and I do mean luckily) he suffered only a dislocated hip, a few broken ribs, and some "road rash" under his full leathers. The GPZ was demolished. As I understand it, he hit the deer broadside travelling at 70 mph or so. The rider following behind said he didn't see the deer until the bike hit it and it looked like the bike exploded. The deer was thrown 15 feet or so into the air and must have been killed instantly. The forks on the GPZ broke off at the triple clamp, and the bike wound up wedged under a guard rail with no remaining plastic. Luckily the rider didn't get caught between the bike and the guardrail, otherwise it would have been a lot uglier. The rider was wearing full leathers and a full face helmet. I was glad he was one of the more thoroughly protected riders in our group.. it was *hot* and we had people riding in jeans and t-shirts. Apparently the rider doesn't remember seeing the deer, or even hitting it. I'm not sure what he could have done.. probably nothing.. it happened at about 11:00 am in the Monogahela National Forest. There was a high embankment on one side of the road, so I think the deer must have jumped down from there. We heard later that a rider in a BMW group that stayed in the campground over Memorial Day also hit a deer. Definitely one of the risks of riding in WV, and something to consider when planning a trip there! Anita From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 13 17:47:10 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA22188 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc1-s41.wizard.net [206.161.15.71]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA17049 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:47:21 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Subject: Stopping for the police... Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:52:41 -0400 Message-ID: <000701beb5e7$0fb44da0$470fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal As I was heading for home by myself on Saturday morning, I was only a few miles from the campground when I saw a Jeep Cherokee heading towards me. At first I thought it was a roof rack on top, but no, it was lights. I was surprised when he turned on his lights because I was "only" going around 65 mph. Kind of funny, since people were riding like hooligans all week long! More than one rider tested out the top speed on a GPZ, that's for sure! Anyhow, I watched in my rear view mirrors as he turned around to follow me so I just pulled over and waited. Came up said I was doing 67 in a 55, and asked me for license and registration. After a few minutes he said "Ma'am, this time I'm just going to give you a verbal warning. I've know what them there motorsickles can do, and I know you didn't have to stop for me." Two thoughts crossed my mind.. (1) I'm pretty sure you DO have to stop for a police car (Jeep?) with flashing lights and (2) I had no desire to be featured on the next episode of "America's Scariest Police Chases." But, I just told him that the thought hadn't crossed my mind (it hadn't), thanked him, and headed on my way. As I rode away I thought about the idea of running from the police... it must happen a lot, as he seemed surprised that I stopped. I guess out there in the middle of nowhere you'd have a pretty good chance of getting away.. no traffic lights, or traffic jams to slow you down. Maybe that's for the braver (crazier?) riders.. me? I'll take my chances with pulling over right away, being polite, and hoping for the best. I did slow down a bit.. at least until I got to the next county! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 13 19:01:52 1999 Return-Path: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (root@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA23362 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:01:50 -0400 (EDT) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id SAA06547; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906132208.SAA06547@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: Stopping for the police... To: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <000701beb5e7$0fb44da0$470fa1ce@anita> from "Anita Lauro" at Jun 13, 99 05:52:41 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Saturday afternoon - bad crash on corner of Chrch St and St 636, about 100 yards east from Rt 28 & Waxpool. Looks like rider was heading east from Rt 28, and a Chevy SUV going west turned left in front of him. Chevy had a big dent on right side, broken front window, side window. Motorcycle ( Honda VFR - red, looks like 92-95 ) ready for scrap. Front smashed, oil leaking, pile of steel. Motorcyclist alive, just packed into ambulance with broken tibia, otherwise OK ( no head/neck injureis, conscious ). Nobody I know. Watch out, folks - in this weather some drivers are totally gaga. _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 13 19:24:22 1999 Return-Path: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA23687 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:24:21 -0400 (EDT) From: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from JimJacks@XXXXXX (7982) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vHURa07597 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:23:32 EDT Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 06/13/99 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 thanks Anita! Well written! Did I say WELL written? I dont even have a better story to tell! -jim - a bike From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 13 20:00:47 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA24353 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990614000110.7832.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [216.70.70.60] by web304.yahoomail.com; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:01:10 PDT Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:01:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Why can't bike servicing be like cage servicing? To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thursday I found out that Coleman's in Woodbridge had my mirror in for a warrentee replacement. The person I spoke to said to bring it in Friday morning and I'll be set. When I got in Friday morning, I was told (by the same guy) they had a 30 day back-log of work and their boss wanted them to catch up so I would have to wait until next week or so. I basically bitched and looked aggitated, and also explained that I was leaving THAT AFTERNOON for a 1,000 mile trip, and I needed to have that mirror. Then I just left the bike there and wandered around the shop for a while. Finally I noticed them take the bike in the back and replace the mirror. 30 day back log... sheesh! When I bring my bike in for scheduled maintance over at Cycle Sports in Springfield, Ed, the guy who does my bike, will tell me if they have too much to do to take the bike immediately. Then he will give me a definite date to bring the bike in, and turn it around the following day or two depending on how much needs to be done. I can live with that, and it doesn't gather dust until then. Too bad they aren't a Kawasaki shop, otherwise I would have used them for warrentee work. Louis --- Eric Winslow wrote: > Hey, all. > > What's up > with that? Why can't they handle appointments like car shops do? Who would > put up with having to leave their car for a week and a half for their > mechanic to check out why 'it ain't running right'? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 13 20:10:17 1999 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA24479 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zellto (adsl-151-200-16-190.bellatlantic.net [151.200.16.190]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA14989 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:13:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001101beb5fb$07785d20$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> From: "Thomas and Jeannette" To: References: <000701beb5e7$0fb44da0$470fa1ce@anita> Subject: Re: Stopping for the police... Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 20:15:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Cue Lenzy... if you're still out there... Tom '86 VFR750 ----- Original Message ----- From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 5:52 PM Subject: Stopping for the police... > As I was heading for home by myself on Saturday morning, I was only a few > miles from the campground when I saw a Jeep Cherokee heading towards me. At > first I thought it was a roof rack on top, but no, it was lights. I was > surprised when he turned on his lights because I was "only" going around 65 > mph. Kind of funny, since people were riding like hooligans all week long! > More than one rider tested out the top speed on a GPZ, that's for sure! > > Anyhow, I watched in my rear view mirrors as he turned around to follow me > so I just pulled over and waited. Came up said I was doing 67 in a 55, and > asked me for license and registration. After a few minutes he said "Ma'am, > this time I'm just going to give you a verbal warning. I've know what them > there motorsickles can do, and I know you didn't have to stop for me." Two > thoughts crossed my mind.. (1) I'm pretty sure you DO have to stop for a > police car (Jeep?) with flashing lights and (2) I had no desire to be > featured on the next episode of "America's Scariest Police Chases." But, I > just told him that the thought hadn't crossed my mind (it hadn't), thanked > him, and headed on my way. > > As I rode away I thought about the idea of running from the police... it > must happen a lot, as he seemed surprised that I stopped. I guess out there > in the middle of nowhere you'd have a pretty good chance of getting away.. > no traffic lights, or traffic jams to slow you down. Maybe that's for the > braver (crazier?) riders.. me? I'll take my chances with pulling over right > away, being polite, and hoping for the best. I did slow down a bit.. at > least until I got to the next county! :-) > > Anita > From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 13 23:33:42 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA27752 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA19478 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.216.42]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA24230 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA00524 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:33:45 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma000522; Sun, 13 Jun 99 23:33:23 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990613233023.009eea60@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:31:00 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Fwd: Theft ring busted! (long) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >From the VFR list. This happened in Florida - but worth cross-listing here. >Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 09:48:55 -0400 >From: "andrew.ward" >Subject: Theft ring busted! (long) >To: vfr@XXXXXX >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 >Sender: owner-vfr@XXXXXX >Reply-To: vfr@XXXXXX > >Some of you might recall a post of mine inquiring about the value of a 1995 >VFR750 motor and carburetors. I’d been offered these items for the paltry >sum of $50 by someone introducing himself as "Joel", whom I’d met at Kody’s, >our local bike watering hole several weeks ago. I’ve said nothing further on >the list regarding this matter for reasons that will shortly become obvious. > >The week following my meeting with Joel, I met him at his residence and >drove with him to an industrial park. Behind a large warehouse were two >locked trailers, one of which contained the VFR motor. Upon inspection, I >realized it was a motor sourced from an earlier model VFR, not a ’95, but >looked to be in good condition. On the floor of the trailer were several >other items from different bikes, including some instrument clusters from >late model GSXR’s. In the adjoining trailer were even more parts, including >frames, motors, forks, rims, brake calipers and clip-ons from various >sportbikes, most of them GSXR’s and CBR’s. I told him that I wasn’t >interested in the VFR motor because it wasn’t a ‘95, but that I might know >someone who would be interested (the police!). By this time it was getting >quite dark, making it difficult to see anything in the windowless trailer, >so we agreed to meet again the following morning. > >Sunday turned out to be even more fruitful. This time, I was taken to a >public storage warehouse across town where he and a friend had been renting >several storage bays. Joel apologized for having forgotten the keys to three >of the bays, but did have the key to one unit, which contained a ’93 >GSXR600. The bike was in pristine condition, with one small exception: the >ignition lock had been ripped out (!). Pretending not to notice, I told him >that I’d be very interested in the rims and forks, if he was willing to part >the bike out. He said he was planning to do that anyway, and already had >some interested parties. I asked him whether he’d received any money from >these "interested parties" yet, to which he replied that he hadn’t. If that >was the case, I said, I’d be willing to pay cash for all of it if he would >wait until my bank opened the following week. He said he’d have to talk to >some people about this, but was definitely interested. At this point there >was an implicit understanding between us that the items were stolen, but I >never made any direct reference to it so as to feign a lack of concern over >it. We agreed to meet at the warehouse again on Tuesday, at which time he >would also show me the contents of the remaining three storage units. >Allegedly these contained as many as six late model GSXR750 and 600 motors, >aftermarket exhaust systems, various sets of OEM plastic, forks, shocks, and >frames. He explained that the fourth unit contained a complete ’99 GSXR750 >belonging to one of his "clients", but he wasn’t sure at that point whether >it would be parted out or shipped to Puerto Rico (evidently this was where a >lot of the stuff was headed). > >I waited at the warehouse the next day at the agreed upon time, but Joel >never showed up. Worried that he might be on to me, I placed a call to >sergeant Dominic Leonard of the city of Longwood police department, and gave >him a full rundown. From my description of Joel, his home phone number, and >where he lived, Leonard was able to identify him as Joel Veragara, a >suspected member of the biggest bike theft ring in central Florida! It also >turned out that there was a very good reason why Joel hadn’t been able to >meet me. Less than half an hour before my call, he had been taken into >custody after a routine traffic stop when it was discovered that the bike he >was riding had recently been reported stolen. That evening, I gave a taped >deposition to detective Anthony Berrios of the Seminole county sheriff’s >office. The information I gave Berrios turned out to be vital to their >investigation, because while they had suspected Joel and several of his >cohorts for quite some time, they apparently knew nothing about where any of >the stolen items were being kept. On Friday afternoon, detective Berrios >told me that they had made a search of the warehouse and two trailers I’d >led them to and recovered the items I described. Apparently Joel had done >quite a bit of talking by then, resulting in the arrest of four more members >of his group. Warrants are being issued for eight others believed to be >directly involved as I write this. > >I’m not at all sure if Joel and his cohorts were responsible for the theft >of my VFR a year and a half ago, but at least I can sleep a bit more soundly >knowing that my current ride is now less likely to suffer the same fate. >Chalk one up for the good guys. > >Andrew Ward > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >The VF/VFR mailing list--see http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~john/vfr-list/ >for subscribe/unsubscribe, policy and archive information. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 07:59:33 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA06573 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AE9EBDF01A6; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:59:29 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990614074825.012d5980@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:49:38 -0400 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: GPZ Rally Gear Report In-Reply-To: <000401beb5e3$d42746a0$470fa1ce@anita> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:29 PM 6/13/99 , Anita Lauro wrote: >3. Thermarest Self-Inflating Mattress - nice to have. Good for sleeping on >your back or stomach, not very good for sleeping on your side (my hip bone >would *hurt*). I find that I can adjust the air pressure in my Thermarest to just keep my hip off the ground. Takes a couple tries to get it right sometimes. (Note: I use the thicker "CampRest" version of Thermarest). Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 07:59:33 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA06572 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AEA1BDF01A6; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:59:29 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990614074645.012d10d0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:47:46 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: stolen bike In-Reply-To: <19990613210354.18443.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:03 PM 6/13/99 , Collin T. Fagan wrote: >They might by now..... this discussion came up about a year or so ago >(right about spring theft time...) and someone called em up and was >checking into it... at the time, they said they did not have a model >for motorcycles, but one was under development. I didn't see any references to motorcycles on their web site (http://www.lojack.com/index.htm). They do have coverage in Virginia, DC, and Maryland. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 07:59:55 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA06577 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA24037 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA29023 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:59:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AEA3BDF01A6; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:59:31 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990614075421.012d2330@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:55:06 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Fwd: Theft ring busted! (long) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990613233023.009eea60@mail.troutman.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>That evening, I gave a taped >>deposition to detective Anthony Berrios of the Seminole county sheriff’s >>office. The information I gave Berrios turned out to be vital to their >>investigation, because while they had suspected Joel and several of his >>cohorts for quite some time, they apparently knew nothing about where any of >>the stolen items were being kept. On Friday afternoon, detective Berrios >>told me that they had made a search of the warehouse and two trailers I’d >>led them to and recovered the items I described. Apparently Joel had done >>quite a bit of talking by then, resulting in the arrest of four more members >>of his group. Warrants are being issued for eight others believed to be >>directly involved as I write this. Wonderful news! Thanks for the cross-post. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 08:09:09 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06791 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flf960r1.ems.att.com ([135.71.244.37]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id IAA24862 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from njb140bh3.ems.att.com by flf960r1.ems.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/ATTEMS-1.4.1 sol2) id IAA19491; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:07:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by njb140bh3.ems.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:08:19 -0400 Message-ID: <9FE88F6AE3C1D211AE530000C0E871EE3B5500@vae820po01.nova.att.com> From: "Crishock, Richard M, BGM" To: "'DCC'" Subject: What this area needs Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:08:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain I have been to the promised land. I wish, oh how I wish, that there was a cool club like this around here. It is called "The White Rose Motorcycle Club" in Spring Grove (15 miles south of York), PA. They are celebrating their 47th year this year. This place is amazing. The club owns a bunch of land (10 acres?), with on-site garages, and a real restaurant (!) that looks like it could seat 100 people or so in complete comfort. Damn. Almost makes me want to move there. I wonder if they have any mainframe computer jobs up there. The real purpose of the club is hill climbing. Ye gawds, these guys are nuts. It is (if I remember right) 250 feet tall at a 75 degree incline. I suppose there are hay bales or something when they have an event, but still... I overheard one guy (with a nitro-burning Triumph) talking to another guy (on crutches) about some meet, saying, "Yeah, that was the time I broke my pelvis." Wow. If anyone is interested, the next hill climb is on August 1st. Just think; a permanent club house, out in the country, with a real restaurant. Mmmmm... hamburgers. Rich '78 Triumph Bonneville '99 Enfield Bullet Sterling From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 09:09:05 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07725 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:09:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AEEB6DF10078; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:08:59 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990614090014.012fb6f0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:01:53 -0400 To: "'DCC'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: What this area needs In-Reply-To: <9FE88F6AE3C1D211AE530000C0E871EE3B5500@vae820po01.nova.att .com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:08 AM 6/14/99 , Crishock, Richard M, BGM wrote: > "The White Rose Motorcycle >Club" in Spring Grove (15 miles south of York), PA. They are celebrating >their 47th year this year. >... >The real purpose of the club is hill climbing. Ye gawds, these guys are >nuts. It is (if I remember right) 250 feet tall at a 75 degree incline. I >suppose there are hay bales or something when they have an event, but >still.. Great stuff to see. My daughter and I went to one of the hillclimbs last year. The record was about 6 seconds from bottom to top. Incredible! Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 09:29:40 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08038 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:29:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by dfw7sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgton27559; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:29:04 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256790.004A67AF ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:32:42 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "John C. Kozyn" cc: dc-cycles , TZimm2450@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256790.004A6718.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:20:19 -0400 Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Well, I've as of yet never hit pavement, *knocking on wood* but as far as I know - I could be wrong - skin is one of the few things absolutely irreplacable about the human body. I've just never heard about a "skin donor" program. I like my skin, it's pretty. I don't want to lose it...and even though I haven't as of yet ridden pavement, I wear my leathers even in 90 degree weather - YUCK. Here's to fall weather! ; ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "John C. Kozyn" on 06/12/99 12:41:40 AM To: dc-cycles cc: TZimm2450@XXXXXX (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... Trevor wrote: First, you can't just be "anyone". Only motorcyclists who have experienced hitting pavement will feel strongly that leathers (or a 'Stitch or something similar) are beneficial no matter what the temperature. Anyway, what's wrong with sweating a bit anyway...? Clears the poisons from your system, I understand. It doesn't clear idiocy though ;) JK From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 09:39:51 1999 Return-Path: lenzy@XXXXXX Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (smtp0.mindspring.com [207.69.200.30]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08219 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:39:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lenzy (user-2ivev85.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.125.5]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05752 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:39:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003c01beb685$64f78040$8e6bfea9@lenzy> Reply-To: "Lenzy Echols" From: "Lenzy Echols" To: Subject: Re: Stopping for the police... Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:46:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Gee Tom, The details seem to be a little fuzzy. I am not quite sure what you are talking about ? Maybe the trip down 95 coming up on springfield -- 6th gear about 13,000rpm ? Sometimes you just have to say F*** It . It can be different when you have alot of time to weigh the options of stopping or runnng.That day, Running was the only choice.......Last I checked anyone caught @ 160mph would be put under the jail in Fairfax Co. Lenzy '94 F2 -----Original Message----- From: Thomas and Jeannette To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sunday, June 13, 1999 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Stopping for the police... >Cue Lenzy... if you're still out there... > >Tom >'86 VFR750 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> >To: >Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 5:52 PM >Subject: Stopping for the police... > > >> As I was heading for home by myself on Saturday morning, I was only a few >> miles from the campground when I saw a Jeep Cherokee heading towards me. >At >> first I thought it was a roof rack on top, but no, it was lights. I was >> surprised when he turned on his lights because I was "only" going around >65 >> mph. Kind of funny, since people were riding like hooligans all week >long! >> More than one rider tested out the top speed on a GPZ, that's for sure! >> >> Anyhow, I watched in my rear view mirrors as he turned around to follow me >> so I just pulled over and waited. Came up said I was doing 67 in a 55, and >> asked me for license and registration. After a few minutes he said >"Ma'am, >> this time I'm just going to give you a verbal warning. I've know what them >> there motorsickles can do, and I know you didn't have to stop for me." >Two >> thoughts crossed my mind.. (1) I'm pretty sure you DO have to stop for a >> police car (Jeep?) with flashing lights and (2) I had no desire to be >> featured on the next episode of "America's Scariest Police Chases." But, >I >> just told him that the thought hadn't crossed my mind (it hadn't), thanked >> him, and headed on my way. >> >> As I rode away I thought about the idea of running from the police... it >> must happen a lot, as he seemed surprised that I stopped. I guess out >there >> in the middle of nowhere you'd have a pretty good chance of getting away.. >> no traffic lights, or traffic jams to slow you down. Maybe that's for the >> braver (crazier?) riders.. me? I'll take my chances with pulling over >right >> away, being polite, and hoping for the best. I did slow down a bit.. at >> least until I got to the next county! :-) >> >> Anita >> > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 09:43:39 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA08299 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:42:46 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:42:42 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:40:37 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Shorts & a T -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Marvin wrote: " I know the risk and the benefits, and make my own decision. However, I will not belittle someone for their decision to wear more or less protective gear. " I've found that I've gotten more crap over the years for wearing leather in the summer, that I'm the dope. This may be bad karma for the heckler. My main antagonist was a room mate who ragdolled down I-35 one evening wearing only sandals, shorts and luckily, a helmet (this in Minnesota with no lid law). Lost so much skin they put him in the burn unit for three days. Then of course, quit riding because "motorcycles are too dangerous." Joe From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 09:50:54 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.zen-data.com (mail.zen-data.com [207.152.129.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08465 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (vulture [209.249.185.69]) by www.zen-data.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA00825; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:50:48 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990614095001.019f8410@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:50:47 -0400 To: "Lenzy Echols" From: Troutman Subject: Re: Stopping for the police... Cc: In-Reply-To: <003c01beb685$64f78040$8e6bfea9@lenzy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:46 PM 6/14/99 , Lenzy Echols wrote: >Sometimes you just have to say F*** It . It can be different when you have >alot of time to weigh the options of stopping or runnng.That day, Running >was the only choice.......Last I checked anyone caught @ 160mph would be put >under the jail in Fairfax Co. 160 in the heavily travelled Springfield I95 corridor? Are you insane? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 10:04:47 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from tea.uk.pw.com (tea.uk.pw.com [193.131.169.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA08663 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:04:44 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by tea.uk.pw.com; id OAA14365; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:59:06 +0100 Received: from olive.uk.pw.com(10.44.240.46) by tea.uk.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma003335; Mon, 14 Jun 99 08:54:15 -0400 Received: from intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com by olive.uk.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FDB00HEDINB7N@XXXXXX>; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:57:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 80256790.004733DA ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:57:43 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:51:13 -0400 Subject: Re: stolen bike To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Cc: redsullivan@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256790.0047406B.00@intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL This topic was discussed recently on the Superhawk list, and the conclusion from someone who contacted LoJack was that they do not make units for motorcycles. Apparently there were a few reasons for this, among them being that the bike market wasn't large enough for them at this time and that there weren't enough places to hide the units on a motorcycle at their current size. They didn't rule out making one in the future, but they don't do so now. Chris Weaver '98 VTR Do they make Lo-Jacks for motorcycles? Scooter ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 10:09:10 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.114]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08742 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:09:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by wodc7mr0.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgtoq19933; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:08:40 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256790.004E09EF ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:12:23 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: Troutman cc: "Lenzy Echols" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256790.004E08C0.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:59:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Stopping for the police... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Yes, I do believe Lenzy is insane. It's an established fact by those who know him. ; ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Troutman on 06/14/99 09:50:47 AM To: "Lenzy Echols" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: Stopping for the police... At 12:46 PM 6/14/99 , Lenzy Echols wrote: >Sometimes you just have to say F*** It . It can be different when you have >alot of time to weigh the options of stopping or runnng.That day, Running >was the only choice.......Last I checked anyone caught @ 160mph would be put >under the jail in Fairfax Co. 160 in the heavily travelled Springfield I95 corridor? Are you insane? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 11:29:39 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09949 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:29:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id LAA24710; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:29:35 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id LAA24148; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:29:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Capitol 1000 recap Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I partook in my first endurance rally this weekend and for the most part I had a great time. Being the simpleton that I am I showed up for the rally with the wear bars showing on my rear tire and this caused me to have some rather tense and not so fun final 5 hours. Since my primary interest was completing a Saddle Sore 1000 I didn't plan a route or mark down any bonus locations (Actually I didn't even have a map at the start). The three mandatory stops where in Charlottesville VA, Charlestown WV, and Weeling WV. I figured that if I was anywhere close to home in the wee hours of the morning I probably would be tempted to wimp out and head straight home so I started the run by heading south. The highlights of the trip where rte 20 from Spotsylvania to Charlottesville, the Blue Ridge Parkway from Charlottesville to Roanoke (I had so much fun on this part of the ride that I didn't care if I finished or not, it was truly incredible), rte 61 from Oak Hill WV to Charleston (This was also an a really great road through some rather scary part of West Virginia that had me quoting Deliverance and singing as much of "Dueling Banjos" as I could remember.), and rte 2 from Parekesburg to Wheeling (This road wasn't particularly great but it was dark by then and those little towns and chemical plants just seemed real cool for some reason.). The real bad part of the trip was taking 70 from Weeling back to Hagerstown. By then my rear tire was really shot and I was stopping every 50 miles to see if the chord was showing yet. 70 was also in horrible shape and I at that point I was the slowest thing on the road. I stopped at a diner in Somerset where some eggs,bacon,homefries and coffee served up by a cure waitress did wonders to improve my mood. The chord did finally show through in the last 50 miles but I made it in one piece so all's well the ends well. My Route: Starting in Hagerstown: 81 to Winchester then 522 to Front Royal,Sperryvile and Culpeper. 3 to Fredericksburg/Spotsylvania. Rte ? to 3 to 20 to Charlottesville. 240 to the Blue Ridge Parkway which I rode to 460 to 381 to 81. At this point I was planning on riding to Bristol VA as that was the suggested route to compleat a SS1000 but the idea of riding 280 miles on the superslab was just to horrible to contemplate. 81 to Christiansburg where I got back on 460 and stopped in Blacksburg for lunch and continued on to 77. 77 to 19 then 19 to 61 to Chrleston. From Charleston back on 77 to Parkersburg to rte 2 to Wheeling. From Wheeling many unpleasant miles on 70 to 81 and finally Hagerstown. My ass hurts and my hands are numb, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 11:32:39 1999 Return-Path: ewinslow@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10053 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:32:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA19686 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (ewinslow@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05707 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:32:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:32:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Winslow To: DC Cycles list Subject: RE: Why can't bike servicing be like cage servicing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > What are you complaining about.. Fast Lane's had my bike for over a month > now... (and they're none to pleased with my daily calls) Perhaps you'll > hear more (unpleasentness) about them when it's all said and done.. so far, > I'd never recomend them for service though. > > Brian (without bike for WAY to long) McCoy Damn. Can't say I'll be checking out Fast Lane. I have been trying to solve this problem of mine on my own. Maybe I'll try a few more easy things and if that don't work I'll let The Dirt Shop take a crack at it. They've been good to me before. Thanks for the input. Hope your bike makes it out of the shop before too long. Eric From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 11:36:37 1999 Return-Path: ewinslow@XXXXXX Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10132 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (ewinslow@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09140; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:36:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:36:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Winslow To: "Crishock, Richard M, BGM" cc: "'DCC'" Subject: Re: What this area needs In-Reply-To: <9FE88F6AE3C1D211AE530000C0E871EE3B5500@vae820po01.nova.att.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Crishock, Richard M, BGM wrote: > Just think; a permanent club house, out in the country, with a real > restaurant. Mmmmm... hamburgers. > Mmmmm... veggieburgers! From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 11:39:13 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10150 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:39:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) id <0FDB00401PF6RF@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:28:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) with ESMTP id <0FDB004G3PGYXS@XXXXXX>; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:24:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA05430; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:25:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990614152424.IIUB5562@toddnt>; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:24:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:21:53 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: What this area needs In-reply-to: <9FE88F6AE3C1D211AE530000C0E871EE3B5500@vae820po01.nova.att.com> To: "Crishock, Richard M, BGM" , "'DCC'" Message-id: <000901beb679$a2016110$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal White Rose sponsors all kinds of moto events including Hill Climbs, Observed Trials, and swap meets. I've been to the trials and hill climbs and was not disappointed with either. Don't know what you mean by hay bales. They have a few lining the intended line up the hill, but the bales rarely stop a charging motorcycle gone astray. If you go, make your way to the top of the hill (there are foot paths through the woods) and watch from above. The hill looks steep from below, but you have NO idea until you get up there and look down. WHOA! Todd Richard Crishock wrote: > > I have been to the promised land. I wish, oh how I wish, that there was a > cool club like this around here. It is called "The White Rose Motorcycle > Club" in Spring Grove (15 miles south of York), PA. They are celebrating > their 47th year this year. > > This place is amazing. The club owns a bunch of land (10 acres?), with > on-site garages, and a real restaurant (!) that looks like it > could seat 100 > people or so in complete comfort. Damn. Almost makes me want to move > there. I wonder if they have any mainframe computer jobs up there. > > The real purpose of the club is hill climbing. Ye gawds, these guys are > nuts. It is (if I remember right) 250 feet tall at a 75 degree > incline. I > suppose there are hay bales or something when they have an event, but > still... I overheard one guy (with a nitro-burning Triumph) talking to > another guy (on crutches) about some meet, saying, "Yeah, that > was the time > I broke my pelvis." Wow. > > If anyone is interested, the next hill climb is on August 1st. > > Just think; a permanent club house, out in the country, with a real > restaurant. Mmmmm... hamburgers. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 11:44:00 1999 Return-Path: lenzy@XXXXXX Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (smtp0.mindspring.com [207.69.200.30]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10238 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:43:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lenzy (user-2ivevb9.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.125.105]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA04206; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00ba01beb696$aad83bc0$8e6bfea9@lenzy> Reply-To: "Lenzy Echols" From: "Lenzy Echols" To: "Troutman" Cc: Subject: Re: Stopping for the police... Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:49:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Actually Mike this day the traffic was not heavy and there was a very large gap in traffic about a mile past woodbridge going north on 95. Traffic was very spread out and the right lane was wide open besides I was keeping with Tom that day -- Until I got tired of it and decided to make him play catch up. Last I saw Tom was @ about 120mph.... I got to indicated 159mph when I let of the gas and started to slow down.When looking for Tom bringing up the rear I saw way in the background a blue light flashing and changing lanes.He was so far back I am not sure where he came from but I was not really interested in finding out. Tom had no clue he was back there at this point until he saw me jump back on the gas and take springfield exit when I knew that we were going to arlington not springfield. He saw me take the exit like it was the last exit I was ever going to take(He said he had no idea how I ever made the exit at that speed) All I knew is that I had to get off 95 if I ever was going to get away. I came off the exit to find traffic (arrgh) So cut through a parking lot and onto backlick rd headed for the backstreets...Growing up in the area made it very helpful in the getaway. Stopping in a near by neighborhood to talk to Tom for moment we then headed down all the known backstreets back to home in arlington. But that was the last trip down 95 at any kind of excessive speed. I have no urge to do that again (well not the police run part) Lenzy '94 F2 From: Troutman To: Lenzy Echols Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 7:01 AM Subject: Re: Stopping for the police... >At 12:46 PM 6/14/99 , Lenzy Echols wrote: >>Sometimes you just have to say F*** It . It can be different when you have >>alot of time to weigh the options of stopping or runnng.That day, Running >>was the only choice.......Last I checked anyone caught @ 160mph would be put >>under the jail in Fairfax Co. > >160 in the heavily travelled Springfield I95 corridor? Are you insane? > >___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org > > '97 Honda VFR 750 > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 13:30:04 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12104 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38416) id <0FDB00901UHD1P@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:15:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38416) with ESMTP id <0FDB00D08UJAMC@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:13:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA03090 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:13:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990614171349.JLER5562@toddnt> for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:13:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:11:18 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: FW: FW: FW: Shoei Duo-tec for sale To: DC-Cycles Message-id: <001c01beb688$eae3aeb0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Chris Norloff bought one used from a gentleman I know on the HSTA list, and he was very pleased. I also know Bill McKenna, and believe this to be a good deal. FYI.... Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill McKenna [mailto:bmckenna@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 12:40 PM > To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: FW: FW: Shoei Duo-tec for sale > > > If you find another buyer I also have one, black, XL, w/ bass > monster speakers.. $200. > > Thanks. > > Bill > > -- > An idle mind... is the best way to rest. > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 13:30:19 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12109 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28312 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from helix.nih.gov (helix.nih.gov [128.231.2.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06980 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from radix.net (dhcp165112138036.cit.nih.gov [165.112.138.36]) by helix.nih.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA2361644 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37653CAA.C8D1BA00@radix.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:32:26 -0400 From: Dave Yates X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Why can't bike servicing be like cage servicing? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are also Brain Dead Bikers. people who wonder why their bike doesn't start after leaving it sit for, say All winter, & then complain loudly to everyone about what a POS it is... That's just for starters. Sometimes you encounter parts waiting, not enough time to tear completely into a motor so that bike has to wait etc... In defense of Fast Lane Cycles, let me say this. They usually have my ZX 11 over the winter ( I'm a power junkie ). It is usually later than I like, but not as bad as it would be any other place I know of... I'm an S.O.B. customer, but I reward good work with my loyalty. They've done good work. One more thing - I'm the guy that had the recent towing damage. For reasons that may be more clear later, keep an open mind, because Fast Lane did help me on this - more to come as the situation permits... -- Dave Yates '97 Cobra #5148 /'90 ZX11 SCOA #1042 / NMA / AMA http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ Systems Analyst Soza & Company, Ltd. IOA / Control-M / R / D Administrator ATG Group Webmaster (301) 496-3760 Eric Winslow wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > > > What are you complaining about.. Fast Lane's had my bike for over a month > > now... (and they're none to pleased with my daily calls) Perhaps you'll > > hear more (unpleasentness) about them when it's all said and done.. so far, > > I'd never recomend them for service though. > > > > Brian (without bike for WAY to long) McCoy > > Damn. Can't say I'll be checking out Fast Lane. I have been trying to > solve this problem of mine on my own. Maybe I'll try a few more easy > things and if that don't work I'll let The Dirt Shop take a crack at it. > They've been good to me before. Thanks for the input. Hope your bike > makes it out of the shop before too long. > > Eric From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 13:36:34 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12206 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA28363 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:36:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA07111 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:36:07 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:36:00 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:33:11 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX Subject: Fwd: Theft ring busted! (long) -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline All right! One for the good guys! From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 14:24:55 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13230 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id OAA08829 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:24:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:24:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Why can't bike servicing be like cage servicing? In-Reply-To: <37653CAA.C8D1BA00@radix.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've always had good luck with CycleSport... had another good experiance with them today. Dropped off my FZR forks to have the seals replaced so I can race next weekend, "Oh, hey, no prob... I can prob fit them in today" - Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 14:44:18 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13716 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:44:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 14 Jun 1999 21:44:46 UT Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:41 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "mike@XXXXXX" , "lenzy@XXXXXX" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: Stopping for the police... Message-ID: <1999061410433188-9dfe58e@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was following him.... Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Stopping for the police... Author: mike@XXXXXX Date: 6/14/99 9:50 AM At 12:46 PM 6/14/99 , Lenzy Echols wrote: >Sometimes you just have to say F*** It . It can be different when you have >alot of time to weigh the options of stopping or runnng.That day, Running >was the only choice.......Last I checked anyone caught @ 160mph would be put >under the jail in Fairfax Co. 160 in the heavily travelled Springfield I95 corridor? Are you insane? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 14:44:20 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13717 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:44:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 14 Jun 1999 21:44:48 UT Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:41 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Lenzy Echols" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: Stopping for the police... Message-ID: <1999061410433158-9dfe570@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That would be it! Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Stopping for the police... Author: lenzy@XXXXXX (Lenzy Echols) Date: 6/14/99 12:46 PM Gee Tom, The details seem to be a little fuzzy. I am not quite sure what you are talking about ? Maybe the trip down 95 coming up on springfield -- 6th gear about 13,000rpm ? Sometimes you just have to say F*** It . It can be different when you have alot of time to weigh the options of stopping or runnng.That day, Running was the only choice.......Last I checked anyone caught @ 160mph would be put under the jail in Fairfax Co. Lenzy '94 F2 -----Original Message----- From: Thomas and Jeannette To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sunday, June 13, 1999 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Stopping for the police... >Cue Lenzy... if you're still out there... > >Tom >'86 VFR750 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> >To: >Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 5:52 PM >Subject: Stopping for the police... > > >> As I was heading for home by myself on Saturday morning, I was only a few >> miles from the campground when I saw a Jeep Cherokee heading towards me. >At >> first I thought it was a roof rack on top, but no, it was lights. I was >> surprised when he turned on his lights because I was "only" going around >65 >> mph. Kind of funny, since people were riding like hooligans all week >long! >> More than one rider tested out the top speed on a GPZ, that's for sure! >> >> Anyhow, I watched in my rear view mirrors as he turned around to follow me >> so I just pulled over and waited. Came up said I was doing 67 in a 55, and >> asked me for license and registration. After a few minutes he said >"Ma'am, >> this time I'm just going to give you a verbal warning. I've know what them >> there motorsickles can do, and I know you didn't have to stop for me." >Two >> thoughts crossed my mind.. (1) I'm pretty sure you DO have to stop for a >> police car (Jeep?) with flashing lights and (2) I had no desire to be >> featured on the next episode of "America's Scariest Police Chases." But, >I >> just told him that the thought hadn't crossed my mind (it hadn't), thanked >> him, and headed on my way. >> >> As I rode away I thought about the idea of running from the police... it >> must happen a lot, as he seemed surprised that I stopped. I guess out >there >> in the middle of nowhere you'd have a pretty good chance of getting away.. >> no traffic lights, or traffic jams to slow you down. Maybe that's for the >> braver (crazier?) riders.. me? I'll take my chances with pulling over >right >> away, being polite, and hoping for the best. I did slow down a bit.. at >> least until I got to the next county! :-) >> >> Anita >> > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 15:41:21 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA15063 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990614194159.12337.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [205.188.197.183] by web303.yahoomail.com; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:41:59 PDT Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:41:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: I Guess I'm Strange... To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, "John C. Kozyn" Cc: dc-cycles , TZimm2450@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You're not alone Jeannette ;-) I wear the full leathers in 90+ even 100+ weaterh... but then again, when I ride, I rarely just cruise along... I've been on the ground a few times (far too many recently) including a 135mph lowside at Summit and walked away with a small scratch on my elbow. There is a "skin donor" program, but it generally comes from somewhere else on your body... I've had a skin graft (bystander at a fireworks accident) and it isn't a pleasant thing. De-breeding (sp??) is probably one of the most unpleasant things that I've ever experienced. --- Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > > > Well, I've as of yet never hit pavement, *knocking on wood* but as > far as I know > - I could be wrong - skin is one of the few things absolutely > irreplacable about > the human body. I've just never heard about a "skin donor" program. > I like my > skin, it's pretty. I don't want to lose it...and even though I > haven't as of > yet ridden pavement, I wear my leathers even in 90 degree weather - > YUCK. === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 16:22:42 1999 Return-Path: sgittelman@XXXXXX Received: from relay.atinc.com (relay.atinc.com [207.2.172.252]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA15973 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from xdata1.atinc.com by relay.atinc.com via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 14 Jun 1999 20:22:39 UT Received: by xdata1.atinc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:21:10 -0400 Message-ID: <20A861493F1FD211A40F00A024D175DC2A8C2B@mlnt1.ml.atinc.com> From: "Gittelman, Stuart" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: FS-CLEAN 1994 Virago 750 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:20:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I know this is not a For Sale/Advertising ListServ, but this bike is really in great shape and I am only selling because an opportunity for a Harley at a great price bit me. I am trying to find a good home for my 1994 Virago 750 with only 3925 adult-ridden miles. I am the second owner and it has always been garaged. It is Dark Green and has a windshield, passenger seat back, sport rack and engine guard (both put on two weeks ago - I really hadn't planned on selling), and a new rear tire. I also have a T-bag for it. The original tire was punctured last Fall on Rte. 50 by Rte 28, but the bike never went down. I am asking $4,500. If you are interested, please reply to this e-mail (sgittelman@XXXXXX) or call me at (703) 749-5819 (w); (703) 383-0812 (h). Thanks, Stuart From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 16:35:35 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay03.mcit.com (omzrelay03.mcit.com [199.249.19.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16213 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:35:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38418) id <0FDC002013U3W7@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:34:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38418) with ESMTP id <0FDC002023U1SQ@XXXXXX>; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:34:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id UAA17141; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:35:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990614203441.LHXO5562@toddnt>; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:34:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:32:08 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA In-reply-to: To: Greg Sachs , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <002201beb6a4$f91f1c50$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal I like this idea Greg. I'm already a member of HSTA and would like to see membership in the NoVA area come up a little more too. Mclean meeting place as a staging area to go ride...hmmmm. I don't think so. There are only two basic routes out of McLean to any decent riding in the area; 1) sr193, Georgetown Pike in VA, and 2) Macarther Blvd, to River road (sr190) in MD. However, being a bit lazy myself, I'd like to volunteer Springfield, VA as a good staging area. Lot's of B-Fast places and very close to nice twisty local roads which lead out west and south (the better parts of riding in VA). And all this w/o slabbing it. Todd Greg Sachs wrote > > Any Sat or Sun is > fine except 3rd sunday, and my criteria for location are pretty simple: > Food not completely toxic. > Room we can take over and be loud in, eventually > Close access to the major slab(beltway/66, so people can get there > easily. > Close access to decent roads(cause riding slab really sucks, and twisties > are fun) > If possible, near McLean, cause that's where I am and I'm lazy. This is > the least important criteria. > So feel free to suggest time/place, I'm aiming for first gathering 2nd > sat in July, thus avoiding the 4th. If, however, everyone is going to > vintage days in Ohio, that doesnt make sense. > Also, if someone could volunteer to plan and lead a ride for that day it > would be great-I can handle doing map sheets, but don't know the roads > well enough to do a route. > Thanks, > Greg From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 17:27:06 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17140 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user32.anent.com [208.195.115.32]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA00591; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:24:44 -0400 Message-ID: <005101beb6ac$a5a5f6e0$2073c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "Todd Peer" , "Greg Sachs" , References: <002201beb6a4$f91f1c50$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Subject: Re: NoVA HSTA Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:22:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I'd probably go for this. Of course I'd have to vote for Leesburg. ;-) Bruce '98 VFR800 > I like this idea Greg. I'm already a member of HSTA and would like to see > membership in the NoVA area come up a little more too. > snip> > However, being a bit lazy myself, I'd like to volunteer Springfield, VA as a > good staging area. Lot's of B-Fast places and very close to nice twisty > local roads which lead out west and south (the better parts of riding in > VA). And all this w/o slabbing it. > > Todd > > Greg Sachs wrote > > > > Any Sat or Sun is > > fine except 3rd sunday, and my criteria for location are pretty simple: > > Food not completely toxic. > > Room we can take over and be loud in, eventually snip> > would be great-I can handle doing map sheets, but don't know the roads > > well enough to do a route. > > Thanks, > > Greg From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 17:34:03 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17282 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com (corp23.kivex.com [208.213.150.23]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.8-KIVEX) with SMTP id RAA05111 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:35:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990614172807.006ba914@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:28:07 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: help? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" OK everybody, I need a little help here.... I have the honor of leading the Women on Wheels, Montgomery County chapter on the July group ride. We usually like to leave the Silver Spring or Rockville area at about 9 AM on Saturday mornings. Any suggestions on a good location to eat at that is biker friendly and has good bathroom facilities??? You all are welcome to join us, the pace may not equal to that of a DC Cycles ride. Honda VFR 750 Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 17:50:22 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17658 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-216-108.s108.tnt3.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.216.108]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA01535; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 99 17:45:32 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: Re: NoVA HSTA To: Todd Peer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Bruce Norton X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=iso-8859-1 What is access to Springfield from slab like? Or, how easy to get to from the beltway is it? Or leesburg-I really don't care where, as long as it is easy to get to and easy to get away from-Springfield has half of that already, and the food too. Leesburg didn't seem as easy to get to(from the trips I've taken that way, only 7 runs to it? Or is there easy beltway access?) Any suggestions for a specific place? I'd like to get something set up for July 3, though I obviously don't expect large turnout on that weekend. thanks for the interest, Greg --- On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:22:31 -0400 Bruce Norton wrote: >I'd probably go for this. Of course I'd have to vote for Leesburg. ;-) > >Bruce >'98 VFR800 > > >> I like this idea Greg. I'm already a member of HSTA and would like to see >> membership in the NoVA area come up a little more too. >> >snip> >> However, being a bit lazy myself, I'd like to volunteer Springfield, VA as a >> good staging area. Lot's of B-Fast places and very close to nice twisty >> local roads which lead out west and south (the better parts of riding in >> VA). And all this w/o slabbing it. >> >> Todd >> >> Greg Sachs wrote >> > >> > Any Sat or Sun is >> > fine except 3rd sunday, and my criteria for location are pretty simple: >> > Food not completely toxic. >> > Room we can take over and be loud in, eventually >snip> > would be great-I can handle doing map sheets, but don't know the roads >> > well enough to do a route. >> > Thanks, >> > Greg > > > -----------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/14/99 HSTA/AMA 5:45:32 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 18:07:45 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17924 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:07:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Anita.dlt.com ([199.4.241.102]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA28767; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:07:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199906142207.SAA28767@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Greg Sachs Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:09:35 -0400 Subject: Re: NoVA HSTA CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Well, if you are looking for easy to get to.. there is always the Old Country Buffet in Manassas. Can handle a crowd, the breakfast is good, and it's pretty straightforward to get to (i.e. Route 66W to Route 234S). I favor the buffet type places for ride starts because you (1) pay at the counter and (2) don't have to wait for service. Just my opinion, of course! :-) Anita On 14 Jun 99, at 17:45, Greg Sachs wrote: > What is access to Springfield from slab like? Or, how easy to get to > from the beltway is it? Or leesburg-I really don't care where, as long > as it is easy to get to and easy to get away from-Springfield has half of > that already, and the food too. Leesburg didn't seem as easy to get > to(from the trips I've taken that way, only 7 runs to it? Or is there > easy beltway access?) Any suggestions for a specific place? I'd like to > get something set up for July 3, though I obviously don't expect large > turnout on that weekend. > thanks for the interest, > Greg From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 18:46:10 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA18596 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:46:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (4534) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2BMWa17124 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:45:34 EDT Subject: Track Day & Test/Tune Day To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Anyone going up for track day or test and tune day 17 and 18 June respectively? I am trying to take the day off Thursday 17 June to try to set-up the racebike. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 18:53:22 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA18683 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990614225739.6188.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [216.164.225.193] by web308.yahoomail.com; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:57:39 PDT Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:57:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: NoVA HSTA To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, Greg Sachs Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The OCB is a pretty good place to start rides from and relatively close to the rest of NOVA... Leesburgh, as mentioned, is also fairly easy to get to since you have route 7, the toll road, and 15 all going directly into town there... Of course, it really doesn't matter to me, as any rides that I may be coming to after this weekend will be starting from Ann Arbor, MI!! ;-) --- Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > Well, if you are looking for easy to get to.. there is always the Old > > Country Buffet in Manassas. Can handle a crowd, the breakfast is > good, and it's pretty straightforward to get to (i.e. Route 66W to > Route 234S). === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 14 19:04:17 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (web305.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.187]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA18893 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:04:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990614230609.14410.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [216.164.225.193] by web305.yahoomail.com; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:06:09 PDT Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:06:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: WERA @ Summit Point this weekend To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii As the subject says, there be racing this weekend at Slippery Point. My 750 is ready to go again thanks to GMD Computrak (Don't ask how much!!! lol). I'll definitely be in the hunt for a few podium finishes. Actually, I'm confident that I can make a clean sweep and take four 1sts so long as I don't do anything stupid....(no comments from the cheap seats, Brain...:)) Anywho, come out to the track and enjoy some great racing. Stop by our pit and help yourself to a cool beverage of choice, stow your gear in the pit, etc... If anyone out there is a really good photographer that plans to be out there, please let me know what kind of film, etc. you like and I'll bring some along, as well as a 6 or 12 of your favorite beverage. I'd offer to pay entry into the track, but the pocketbook is seriously hurting after the computrak experience ;-) Maybe next time for sure though.... I'll have real race bodywork on the bike by then (gasp!!), and maybe even some paint on it!! lol Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 07:18:36 1999 Return-Path: berman@XXXXXX Received: from min.net (root@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA02081 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from min.net (berman@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by min.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05026; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:18:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:18:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Morris Berman To: "Lisa S. Goddard" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: help? In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990614172807.006ba914@kivex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How about the Olney Ale House? -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Lisa S. Goddard wrote: > OK everybody, I need a little help here.... > > I have the honor of leading the Women on Wheels, Montgomery County chapter > on the July group ride. We usually like to leave the Silver Spring or > Rockville area at about 9 AM on Saturday mornings. > > Any suggestions on a good location to eat at that is biker friendly and has > good bathroom facilities??? > > You all are welcome to join us, the pace may not equal to that of a DC > Cycles ride. > > Honda VFR 750 > Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist > Kivex.com > Unlock the power of the Internet! > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 08:39:08 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03972 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:39:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) id <0FDD00D01CFSYQ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:38:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) with ESMTP id <0FDD00BEVCFMJJ@XXXXXX>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:38:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA27160; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:37:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990615123752.VNXJ20950@toddnt>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:37:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:35:35 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA In-reply-to: <199906142207.SAA28767@radagast.wizard.net> To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, Greg Sachs Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000201beb72b$90c726c0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Concur with Anita. The Old Country Buffet actually fits the 'large crowd/don't care if your loud' criteria. And Manassass is not very far from any of the other mentioned starting places. Greg, are you going to STAR99? A couple of us are planning to leave this Saturday to get out there early and catch some dirt track racing that evening. You're welcome to ride with us. Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Anita Lauro [mailto:2xracers@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 6:10 PM > To: Greg Sachs > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: NoVA HSTA > > > Well, if you are looking for easy to get to.. there is always the Old > Country Buffet in Manassas. Can handle a crowd, the breakfast is > good, and it's pretty straightforward to get to (i.e. Route 66W to > Route 234S). I favor the buffet type places for ride starts because > you (1) pay at the counter and (2) don't have to wait for service. > Just my opinion, of course! :-) > > Anita > > On 14 Jun 99, at 17:45, Greg Sachs wrote: > > > What is access to Springfield from slab like? Or, how easy to get to > > from the beltway is it? Or leesburg-I really don't care where, as long > > as it is easy to get to and easy to get away from-Springfield > has half of > > that already, and the food too. Leesburg didn't seem as easy to get > > to(from the trips I've taken that way, only 7 runs to it? Or is there > > easy beltway access?) Any suggestions for a specific place? > I'd like to > > get something set up for July 3, though I obviously don't expect large > > turnout on that weekend. > > thanks for the interest, > > Greg > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 12:15:51 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07903 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (216-164-225-38.s292.tnt6.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.225.38]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA03924; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 99 12:05:44 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, Todd Peer Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=iso-8859-1 it would seem that we've got a place now, the OCB in Manassas, and I'm going to set 8:30 as breakfast time, with stands up at 9:30. Anyone want to volunteer to lead a ride? If I'm given the route, I can make map sheets for all, and I can ride it with someone to check the route out. Hoping for ~150 miles, but more or less isn't a big deal. Oh, this is for July 3, and hopefully each following 1st Saturday of the month. If people are thinking of being there, please drop me a line so I can get a rough estimate. Thanks, Greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/15/99 HSTA/AMA 12:05:44 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 12:44:22 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08404 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:44:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Anita.dlt.com ([199.4.241.102]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA12704; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:44:27 -0400 Message-Id: <199906151644.MAA12704@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Greg Sachs , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:44:46 -0400 Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) To be honest, I'm kind of burned out on leading rides.. the GPZ rally was a killer! Hopefully someone else will step up to the plate, and I'll get to follow for a change! :-) Anita On 15 Jun 99, at 12:05, Greg Sachs wrote: > it would seem that we've got a place now, the OCB in Manassas, and I'm > going to set 8:30 as breakfast time, with stands up at 9:30. Anyone want > to volunteer to lead a ride? From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 12:56:13 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08605 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:56:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:54:04 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:54:02 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I'd offer 'cept for 2 things.. past HSTA rides (and the org. itself) has left me less than impressed... and I hope to be doing a 3-day long range ride somewhere.. maybe alone, maybe not. Brian > -----Original Message----- Hopefully someone else will step up to the plate, > and I'll get to > follow for a change! :-) > > Anita > > On 15 Jun 99, at 12:05, Greg Sachs wrote: > > > it would seem that we've got a place now, the OCB in > Manassas, and I'm > > going to set 8:30 as breakfast time, with stands up at > 9:30. Anyone want > > to volunteer to lead a ride? > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 13:24:23 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09213 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:24:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AC4187A01FC; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:24:17 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990615131222.01329780@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:13:38 -0400 To: "'dc'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:54 PM 6/15/99 , McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > past HSTA rides (and the org. itself) has >left me less than impressed... Why? I ask because I can agree with some of that statement, too. I was a member for several years, but let it lapse when money got tight. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 14:12:15 1999 Return-Path: dhallis@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f171.hotmail.com [209.185.131.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA10332 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28468 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jun 1999 18:11:41 -0000 Message-ID: <19990615181141.28467.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.193.255.42 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:11:41 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.193.255.42] From: Doug Allis To: roach@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Why can't bike servicing be like cage servicing? Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:11:41 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I agree. I like the CycleSport store in Springfield. They do good work on my PC-800 even though they are not a Honda dealer. >From: Brian Roach >To: dc-cycles >Subject: Re: Why can't bike servicing be like cage servicing? >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:24:43 -0400 (EDT) > > >I've always had good luck with CycleSport... had another good experiance >with them today. Dropped off my FZR forks to have the seals replaced so I >can race next weekend, "Oh, hey, no prob... I can prob fit them in today" > >- Brian > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 14:33:13 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10735 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AC63B4680110; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:33:07 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990615142837.0132e690@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:30:02 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Cycle Sport Herndon's new owners? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On the TV recently, I saw a local-cable-channel-guy interviewing someone who said he had just bought Cycle Sport Herndon (this was at a Herndon city picnic or something). Anybody know anything about this? Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 14:37:56 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10864 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38416) id <0FDD00C01STO6N@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:33:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38416) with ESMTP id <0FDD00CSESOLEK@XXXXXX>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:29:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id SAA25077; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:28:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990615182850.YVES20950@toddnt>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:28:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:26:31 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA In-reply-to: <4.1.19990615131222.01329780@mail.toward.com> To: Chris Norloff , "'dc'" Message-id: <000b01beb75c$9759c6b0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal I'm interested to hear both of your stories. > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff [mailto:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 1:14 PM > To: 'dc' > Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA > > > At 12:54 PM 6/15/99 , McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > > past HSTA rides (and the org. itself) has > >left me less than impressed... > > > Why? I ask because I can agree with some of that statement, too. I was a > member for several years, but let it lapse when money got tight. > > > Chris Norloff > Falls Church, Virginia > 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 14:42:26 1999 Return-Path: dhallis@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f169.hotmail.com [209.185.131.232]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA10944 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:42:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1523 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jun 1999 18:41:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990615184152.1522.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.193.255.42 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:41:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.193.255.42] From: Doug Allis To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: trip planners Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:41:52 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I'm new to this list and wanted to get feedback on the usefulness of these things from motorcyclists. I have a Honda PC-800 and do a bit of short trip touring on the thing. I just tried this site to reproduce a business trip I took yesterday to near Cumberland Maryland from Springfield. I selected my route using three state sponsored printed maps from Maryland, Virginia and West Virginia. It took me 15 minutes of planning and the route I choose turned out to be 141 miles (one way). I went out 66 from Fairfax Co Pkwy to Rt 55, up 17 to 522 N and went through Paw Paw into Md on 127, 9 and 29. Then I took Md rt 51 and a local road to Rocky Gap St Pk. Trip time was 2 1/2 hours, 142 miles each way. I just tried to select this same trip using this Internet planner. I selected a trip that would avoid interstates and use senic roads. I knew that the system failed me as soon as it told me to get on I-95 in Springfield VA. While it didn't put me across Maryland on I-95, 270, 70 and 68 (a really boooring motorcycle ride), it did put me on I-66 and I-68!!! Even I could tell from the maps that there were decent non-interstates running right next to each (Rt 55 in VA; Rts 40 and 140 in Maryland)! Plus it selected a route that was over 180 miles (by its own stupid calculation). I've tried these so called routers a lot lately. I can ALWAYS do better with printed maps. Has anyone found anything better than maps and AAA's information on highway construction? The automated routers still seem to be a waste of time. http://www.freetrip.com/index.html Doug Allis DHAllis@XXXXXX _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 14:48:35 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11032 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AFFF7D8019C; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:48:31 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990615144211.01308370@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:44:38 -0400 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA In-Reply-To: <000b01beb75c$9759c6b0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> References: <4.1.19990615131222.01329780@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Brian responded to me privately, so I'll let him make his comments public if he wants. My comments are: I never experienced a non-chalant attitude about crashing with the local group, but with other groups and with the national event it was quite disturbing. Lots of people treating public roads like a closed race course, and wrecking. I don't think there was one large event that didn't have one or more wrecks with serious injury (in the three or four years I was a member). I didn't notice any snotty or aloof behavior, even with riding my old '81 & '82 CB750F bikes. They were quite condescending of bikes that get trailered more than they're ridden, but then so am I :-) Chris Norloff At 02:26 PM 6/15/99 , Todd Peer wrote: >I'm interested to hear both of your stories. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Chris Norloff [mailto:cnorloff@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 1:14 PM >> To: 'dc' >> Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA >> >> >> At 12:54 PM 6/15/99 , McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: >> > past HSTA rides (and the org. itself) has >> >left me less than impressed... >> >> >> Why? I ask because I can agree with some of that statement, too. I was a >> member for several years, but let it lapse when money got tight. >> >> >> Chris Norloff >> Falls Church, Virginia >> 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar >> > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 14:53:11 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11123 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A10980B30078; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:52:57 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990615145151.01308e60@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:53:07 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: trip planners In-Reply-To: <19990615184152.1522.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:41 PM 6/15/99 , Doug Allis wrote: >I've tried these so called routers a lot lately. I can ALWAYS do better >with printed maps. Has anyone found anything better than maps and AAA's >information on highway construction? The automated routers still seem to be >a waste of time. I'm with you on this one. It seems like you to use the computer-based mapping you have to confirm it with a paper map anyway. Their time will come, but I'm not sure it's here yet. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 15:07:17 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11393 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20720 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:06:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA In-Reply-To: <000b01beb75c$9759c6b0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Todd Peer wrote: > I'm interested to hear both of your stories. I don't have a story of my own but do have one I can relay. A friend was riding near his home in N. Ga and came across a group of HSTA riders at a lunch break. They took off before him. When he got on the road he ended up on the same route that the HSTA guys had taken. One of them was laid out in the road after crashing. His brother waited with the crasher while he took off after the others but they could not be found. They'd just abandonded someone from their group. I don't think any of the HSTA guys I've gotten to know would be this way but here was a whole group (about 20) who weren't particularly concerned. Personally, I try to keep track of everyone in my group even when I'm not leading and think everyone else ought to do the same... I found the story a bit alarming. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 15:21:06 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11726 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21042 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:21:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: trip planners In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990615145151.01308e60@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Chris Norloff wrote: > > The automated routers still seem to be a waste of time. > > I'm with you on this one. It seems like you to use the computer-based > mapping you have to confirm it with a paper map anyway. Their time will > come, but I'm not sure it's here yet. You've got to use the "automated routers" sort of like you'd use a paper map. For instance, using Street Atlas 6.0 you go through and find the roads you know you'd like to hit and tell the software you'd like to use those roads. Then, you can use the automated features and get all the trip statistics and such. The big negative of Street Atlas and other Delorme products is that they don't distinguish paved roads from unpaved roads. Recently I planned a squiggly back roads day trip and ended up with some 15 miles or so of double track trails. These were not dirt roads! I actually enjoyed going on them. Particularly, I found it amusing to watch Todd P. and John K. making creek crossings on their fully faired bikes (ST1100 and VFR750). :) In spite of my enjoyment of the trails I now that some of the people I ride with would not be happy about or willing to get on dirt roads. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 15:25:29 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.114]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11751 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:25:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by wodc7mr0.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgttd21533; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:25:25 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256791.006B10DD ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:29:26 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: Kirk Roy cc: "'dc'" Message-ID: <85256791.006B0F84.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:16:28 -0400 Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I may have missed this in previous posts, sorry if it's a stupid question, but what does HSTA stand for? Thanks. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Kirk Roy on 06/15/99 03:06:22 PM To: "'dc'" cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Todd Peer wrote: > I'm interested to hear both of your stories. I don't have a story of my own but do have one I can relay. A friend was riding near his home in N. Ga and came across a group of HSTA riders at a lunch break. They took off before him. When he got on the road he ended up on the same route that the HSTA guys had taken. One of them was laid out in the road after crashing. His brother waited with the crasher while he took off after the others but they could not be found. They'd just abandonded someone from their group. I don't think any of the HSTA guys I've gotten to know would be this way but here was a whole group (about 20) who weren't particularly concerned. Personally, I try to keep track of everyone in my group even when I'm not leading and think everyone else ought to do the same... I found the story a bit alarming. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 15:30:38 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11935 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) id <0FDD00C01V0L3T@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:19:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) with ESMTP id <0FDD007CDV08E7@XXXXXX>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:19:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id TAA09510; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:20:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990615191902.ZHTJ20950@toddnt>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:19:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:16:42 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: trip planners In-reply-to: <19990615184152.1522.qmail@hotmail.com> To: Doug Allis , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000c01beb763$9a0bea30$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal You're in luck Go here and start digging around: http://www.delorme.com/ Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Allis [mailto:dhallis@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 2:42 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: trip planners > > > I'm new to this list and wanted to get feedback on the usefulness of these > things from motorcyclists. I have a Honda PC-800 and do a bit of > short trip > touring on the thing. > > I just tried this site to reproduce a business trip I took > yesterday to near > Cumberland Maryland from Springfield. I selected my route using > three state > sponsored printed maps from Maryland, Virginia and West Virginia. > It took me > 15 minutes of planning and the route I choose turned out to be 141 miles > (one way). I went out 66 from Fairfax Co Pkwy to Rt 55, up 17 to > 522 N and > went through Paw Paw into Md on 127, 9 and 29. Then I took Md rt 51 and a > local road to Rocky Gap St Pk. Trip time was 2 1/2 hours, 142 miles each > way. > > I just tried to select this same trip using this Internet planner. I > selected a trip that would avoid interstates and use senic roads. I knew > that the system failed me as soon as it told me to get on I-95 in > Springfield VA. While it didn't put me across Maryland on I-95, > 270, 70 and > 68 (a really boooring motorcycle ride), it did put me on I-66 and I-68!!! > Even I could tell from the maps that there were decent non-interstates > running right next to each (Rt 55 in VA; Rts 40 and 140 in Maryland)! Plus > it selected a route that was over 180 miles (by its own stupid > calculation). > > I've tried these so called routers a lot lately. I can ALWAYS do better > with printed maps. Has anyone found anything better than maps and AAA's > information on highway construction? The automated routers still > seem to be > a waste of time. > > > http://www.freetrip.com/index.html Doug Allis DHAllis@XXXXXX _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 15:37:38 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12046 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21483 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:37:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Moto air bag? Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII http://www.eggparka.com/eng/index.shtml From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 15:38:57 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12068 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:38:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id ABBF92001FC; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:38:39 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990615153547.013167f0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:38:46 -0400 To: "'dc'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA In-Reply-To: <85256791.006B0F84.00@172.16.2.37> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Honda Sport Touring Assoc., but they welcome anyone (they passed my test when I learned they voted a Kawasaki Concours rider President). Overall, they are a really good group of people. http://www.ridehsta.com Chris Norloff At 03:16 PM 6/15/99 , Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > > >I may have missed this in previous posts, sorry if it's a stupid question, but >what does HSTA stand for? >Thanks. > >- Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > > > >Kirk Roy on 06/15/99 03:06:22 PM > > >To: "'dc'" >cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) >Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA > > > > > >On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Todd Peer wrote: >> I'm interested to hear both of your stories. > >I don't have a story of my own but do have one I can relay. A friend was >riding near his home in N. Ga and came across a group of HSTA riders at a >lunch break. They took off before him. When he got on the road he ended up >on the same route that the HSTA guys had taken. One of them was laid out >in the road after crashing. His brother waited with the crasher while he >took off after the others but they could not be found. They'd just >abandonded someone from their group. > >I don't think any of the HSTA guys I've gotten to know would be this way >but here was a whole group (about 20) who weren't particularly concerned. >Personally, I try to keep track of everyone in my group even when I'm not >leading and think everyone else ought to do the same... I found the story >a bit alarming. > >Kirk > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 15:39:40 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12079 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:39:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id PAA10035; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:39:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:39:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: Chris Norloff cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cycle Sport Herndon's new owners? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990615142837.0132e690@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Chris Norloff wrote: > On the TV recently, I saw a local-cable-channel-guy interviewing someone > who said he had just bought Cycle Sport Herndon (this was at a Herndon city > picnic or something). Evidentally on May 1 both CycleSports (Herndon and Springfield) were sold to a new owner. I talked to the guys at springfield about this yesterday, and they said that they haven't seen any changes in terms of how the store is supposed to be run, etc from the new owner. Hopefully this will stay the case as I've been very satisfied dealing with them over the last couple years. - Brian Roach From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 15:40:12 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12096 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:40:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38416) id <0FDD00901VIZT9@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:30:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38416) with ESMTP id <0FDD00EPFVH105@XXXXXX>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:29:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id TAA20849; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:28:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990615192905.ZJXH20950@toddnt>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:29:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:26:46 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA In-reply-to: <4.1.19990615144211.01308370@mail.toward.com> To: Chris Norloff , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000d01beb765$01e88c70$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal I'm just a member, but I think I can address this. The HSTA has taken giant leaps toward risk management. It now has a risk management officer. At the last STAR ('98 in Taos, NM), there were two MSF courses offered, both ERC.There were zero rolling accidents and no injuries among the registered riders. I can't say the same for some of the un-registered locals that "attended". At the closing ceremonies, the president and risk management officer made a huge deal about the fact that they were accident free for the 4-day national event. It was very obvious to me that they were very concerned for our safety. I've only been a member for a couple of years, and I do recall reading of the debacle that occurred at the STAR97, but I never got the feeling that people were cavalier or unconcerned. Quite the contrary in fact. The officials interviewed in the article I read came accross as seeming disappointed and very concerned that the accidents occurred. You must have handed your membership over right at the end of 1997. Todd > Brian responded to me privately, so I'll let him make his comments public > if he wants. My comments are: > > > I never experienced a non-chalant attitude about crashing with the local > group, but with other groups and with the national event it was quite > disturbing. Lots of people treating public roads like a closed race > course, and wrecking. I don't think there was one large event that didn't > have one or more wrecks with serious injury (in the three or four years I > was a member). > > I didn't notice any snotty or aloof behavior, even with riding my > old '81 & > '82 CB750F bikes. They were quite condescending of bikes that get > trailered more than they're ridden, but then so am I :-) > > Chris Norloff > > > > At 02:26 PM 6/15/99 , Todd Peer wrote: > >I'm interested to hear both of your stories. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Chris Norloff [mailto:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 1:14 PM > >> To: 'dc' > >> Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA > >> > >> > >> At 12:54 PM 6/15/99 , McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > >> > past HSTA rides (and the org. itself) has > >> >left me less than impressed... > >> > >> > >> Why? I ask because I can agree with some of that statement, > too. I was a > >> member for several years, but let it lapse when money got tight. > >> > >> > >> Chris Norloff > >> Falls Church, Virginia > >> 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with > Jupiter sidecar > >> > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 15:41:09 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12112 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18147 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:41:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10143 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA29770 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX (3867) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dFMSa08612 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:38:11 EDT Subject: Cycle Sport Herndon's new owners? -Met one of them. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 This is actually kind of a cool story. I met one of the new owners when he was having dinner with his wife and uncle at my restaraunt. I saw some bikes parked in front of our patio, and I went to take a look. A gorgeous aquamarine BMW R100R and a Vulcan(?) with a Champion side car. The Kawi/hack had a VERY nice matching paint job. The people at the table right in front of the bikes asked me if what I thought about them, and I told them I had always liked the R100R's, and pointed out my CBR at the end of the lot. I started talking to them and it turns out the younger gentleman, (BMW rider) was one of the new owners of Cycle Sport. Front what I've heard, there are several. (3?) Genuinely nice folks. Big fans of Dairyland insurance too. He was making mention of establishing contacts with the various local riding groups, and having group rides start off from C-sport in Herndon. His first name was Dave, can't remember the last. At any rate, they were pretty cool. -Sean Jordan '93 CBR1000F From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 15:46:38 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12294 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AD9A134101A6; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:46:34 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990615154332.01314020@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:46:41 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA In-Reply-To: <000d01beb765$01e88c70$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> References: <4.1.19990615144211.01308370@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:26 PM 6/15/99 , Todd Peer wrote: >At the closing ceremonies, the president and risk management officer made a >huge deal about the fact that they were accident free for the 4-day national >event. It was very obvious to me that they were very concerned for our >safety. I've only been a member for a couple of years, and I do recall >reading of the debacle that occurred at the STAR97, but I never got the >feeling that people were cavalier or unconcerned. Quite the contrary in >fact. The officials interviewed in the article I read came accross as >seeming disappointed and very concerned that the accidents occurred. VERY glad to hear this. >You must have handed your membership over right at the end of 1997. The end of 1996, actually. You mean it got worse? :-) thanks, Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 15:53:25 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12421 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id PAA10073 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:53:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:53:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: trip planners In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using the Delorme product as well, and have been very happy with it. To go the extra GeekMile I also purchased the GPS unit and their PalmPilot software, which lets me set routes on the PC, zap them to my pilot, and have a real-time GPS mapping system on the bike! (Both items fit nicely in my tank bag's map window). Haven't run into the dirt-road problem yet that was posted, but other than that it seems to be a great product. - Brian Roach From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 15:56:31 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12462 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:56:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user160.anent.com [208.195.115.160]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA04466 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:54:08 -0400 Message-ID: <00a801beb769$2a640680$a073c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: Moto air bag? Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:56:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I'd just love to have that thing go off while I was riding down the road!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Kirk Roy To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 3:37 PM Subject: Moto air bag? > http://www.eggparka.com/eng/index.shtml > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 16:07:15 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12725 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38416) id <0FDD00B01W67UU@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:45:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38416) with ESMTP id <0FDD00H7HVWYF0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:38:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id TAA25073; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:38:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990615193840.ZMIK20950@toddnt>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:38:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:36:20 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA In-reply-to: To: Kirk Roy , "'dc'" Message-id: <000e01beb766$582353d0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Kirk Roy wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Todd Peer wrote: > > I'm interested to hear both of your stories. > > I don't have a story of my own but do have one I can relay. A friend was > riding near his home in N. Ga and came across a group of HSTA riders at a > lunch break. They took off before him. When he got on the road he ended up > on the same route that the HSTA guys had taken. One of them was laid out > in the road after crashing. His brother waited with the crasher while he > took off after the others but they could not be found. They'd just > abandonded someone from their group. > > I don't think any of the HSTA guys I've gotten to know would be this way > but here was a whole group (about 20) who weren't particularly concerned. > Personally, I try to keep track of everyone in my group even when I'm not > leading and think everyone else ought to do the same... I found the story > a bit alarming. > > Kirk Hmmmmm...a friend of friend told me..... Assuming this is an accurate story, your friend came across this scene and remembered that the group was HSTA. Let me remind everyone that this could easily have been the DC-Cycles. Let me explain. The HSTA is fairly loosely knit overall. It is organized, mostly by state. When you join, you're membership is counted by the state level HSTA too. Typically state directors host rides in their states. All are welcome. In this context, groups that form are subject to the unfamiliarities of each others styles, and expectations. Sound familiar? I've been on and heard of many DC-Cycles rides that have the same elements. Fortunately, we haven't had any serious injuries in any of the group rides. Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 16:20:43 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net (chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.98]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12997 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:20:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by chi6sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgtth15636; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:20:29 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256791.00701CD1 ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:24:34 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Bruce Norton" cc: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Message-ID: <85256791.00701B54.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:11:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Moto air bag? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline With my luck, I'd forget I had it on every time I stepped off my bike and it would explode me into the Michelen Woman! LOL - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Bruce Norton" on 06/15/99 03:56:28 PM To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: Moto air bag? I'd just love to have that thing go off while I was riding down the road!! > http://www.eggparka.com/eng/index.shtml > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 16:21:03 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13008 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) id <0FDD00C01XSWB0@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:19:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) with ESMTP id <0FDD00AL4XSV1F@XXXXXX>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:19:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id UAA06545; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:19:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990615201924.ZWQU20950@toddnt>; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:19:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:17:04 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Moto air bag? In-reply-to: To: Kirk Roy , DC-Cycles Mailing List Message-id: <001201beb76c$08bc1f10$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal I could see it now. You stop in the parking lot where all your friends are hanging around kicking tires. You're cool, as the kick-stand goes down you smoothly whip your leg over the seat as you dismount and in the same motion you begin to strut over to your friends and...'POOF'! You're the Michelin Man! LOL! Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Kirk Roy [mailto:kirk@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 3:37 PM > To: DC-Cycles Mailing List > Subject: Moto air bag? > > > http://www.eggparka.com/eng/index.shtml > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 16:28:29 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13120 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Anita.dlt.com ([199.4.241.102]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA06994; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:28:38 -0400 Message-Id: <199906152028.QAA06994@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Doug Allis Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:28:55 -0400 Subject: Re: trip planners CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: <19990615184152.1522.qmail@hotmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) I'll throw my two cents in.. since I did quite a bit of route planning for the GPZ rally. I used Street Atlas 6.0 and Microsoft's Streets & Trips 2000 for my route planning. In my opinion, SA 6.0 is the better product because it gives much clearer directions.. it knows that when Route 50 goes through a small town, it's still Route 50... Streets & Trips wants to tell you to "Proceed west on Main Street for .5 miles"... talk about confusing! I like the maps better from Streets & Trips, but it's easier to get SA6 to use particular roads without having to add additional stops along the way. My major pet peeve with SA6 (and previous versions) was always that the printed route maps were essentially unreadable (big black lines, circles for the stops). Well, I finally figured out a solution. First you turn the route into a "draw object," and then you uncheck "show route on map." What you wind up with is a nice highlighted line showing your route, without any of the annoying circles for the stops/vias. I was able to print out a very readable map of a 300 mile route in WV that way. As far as color maps go, Streets & Trips will print out some beautiful ones. In most cases I already know the roads I want to travel on (including in WV where I got recommendations beforehand)... my first try at just letting the software tell me how to go will be when I ride up to NY to visit my parents...rather than suffer the NJ Turnpike I'm going to try for a "scenic route" through PA. We'll see how that goes! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 16:58:51 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13759 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:58:45 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id PAA07764; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:21:11 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa06107; Tue, 15 Jun 99 15:19:16 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com ([10.9.16.181]) by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FDD007P0V2XC1@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:21:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256791.0069F092 ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:17:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:01:12 -0400 Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256791.0069EC08.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Yes, but HSTA? It was my impression from looking at the website that they would be more in the opposite direction, i.e. slow-riding old fuddy-duddies with PC800s and ST1100s. I guess you can ride like a squid on any bike... ;^) Chris Weaver Chris Norloff wrote: I never experienced a non-chalant attitude about crashing with the local group, but with other groups and with the national event it was quite disturbing. Lots of people treating public roads like a closed race course, and wrecking. I don't think there was one large event that didn't have one or more wrecks with serious injury (in the three or four years I was a member). ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 17:12:25 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14073 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23822; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:12:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:12:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA In-Reply-To: <85256791.0069EC08.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > Yes, but HSTA? It was my impression from looking at the website that they > would be more in the opposite direction, i.e. slow-riding old fuddy-duddies > with PC800s and ST1100s. I guess you can ride like a squid on any bike... > ;^) Todd Peer is indeed a slow riding old fuddy duddy on his ST1100. I can confirm this from first hand experience... :) He's even got electronic cruise control. Slow-riding opera-listening folks, that's the HSTA alright. ;) The truth is, you can by no means judge how fast or safe (not all fast riders are squids or dangerous, most aren't dangerous or they wouldn't still be around) a rider is based on bike choice (e.g., the maniacally fast GoldWing rider who videotapes sport bikers in the twisties), clothing (multicolored leathers do not make one fast), chicken stripes, etc. It's not until you're on the road that you can tell. I've actually started to assume that the guys with sportbikes will be the slow ones as they rarely have the experience and skills of the older crowd on their sport tourers... Fred, this is not your cue to start the discussion on absolute abilities of one bike over another. :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 15 19:56:43 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA16848 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-253-158.s158.tnt8.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.253.158]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07806 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:56:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 99 19:21:57 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: HSTA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Wow, I stirred up lots of controversy with the HSTA stuff. Hadn't realized others had had such bad experiences. Here's my perspective, for whatever it is worth(some, probably already covered by others) First, it is very loosely organized, and groups will vary depending on who has joined in an area. I can only speak for my experience, which was in the Cleveland area. We had a very active group there, and as I've said we met monthly/weekly for rides. On these rides(I joined them for year and a half) I can remember 1 crash and one time I felt uncomfortable. First, the crash I was ~500ft from it when happened, on a straight. Didn't really see, saw the #2 bike swerve. We were ~120 miles in, nearing our lunch stop, and going through a town. The ride leader, on an ST1100, remembered a sharp turn coming up, glanced at his tankbag to check location, and then realized he was about to hit it-a genuine 10 mph right hander, while doing about 30. He leaned it over, was hanging off(only time I saw someone do that on a ride), and the outrigger touched down. This levered the wheels off the ground, and the bike took a straight line to the outside of the turn. An explorer was entering the turn, saw, and skidded to a stop, and Dave's helmet and top bag contacted the grille. He was groggy, and was taken away in ambulance and another HSTAr went to the hospital with him. We parked his bike at the fire station just up the street, and the other 12 of us continued on to lunch-he clearly wasn't badly hurt, and there was nothing else we could do. He was released that day, with a mild concussion, and nothing else(full Bates Perf leather suit). Sunday another HSTA'r and he retrieved his bike. Either sat night or sunday(I can't remember which) he called everyone that had been on the ride to let them know he was ok, and to apologize for the incident-he explained it much as I did above. Simple concentration error, could happen to anyone and hit him as he was worrying about making sure that everything was perfect. Luckily, no real damage was done other than new grille, helmet, and windshield(for bike) The time I felt uncomfortable was on another ride, when a non-HSTA rider had joined us, on his duc 900SS FE. I felt uncomfortable due to his riding style-he passed me on the inside of a turn, then went around another guy on the outside of the same turn, and was laying strips through many turns. Many others expressed their displeasure at this as well. >From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" >Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA > >I'd offer 'cept for 2 things.. past HSTA rides (and the org. itself) has >left me less than impressed... and I hope to be doing a 3-day long range >ride somewhere.. maybe alone, maybe not. > >Brian I guess I'm curious about the story too, and just ask to be given a chance-just think of it as my trying to organize a monthly breakfast and ride. >X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX >Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:44:38 -0400 >To: >From: Chris Norloff >Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA > >Brian responded to me privately, so I'll let him make his comments public >if he wants. My comments are: > > >I never experienced a non-chalant attitude about crashing with the local >group, but with other groups and with the national event it was quite >disturbing. Lots of people treating public roads like a closed race >course, and wrecking. I don't think there was one large event that didn't have one or more wrecks with serious injury (in the three or four >years I was a member). This definately was a problem, i think it is largely resolved(big articles every issue of the newsletter about safety, a copy of Nick ???(cycle world guy)'s article on riding "the Pace" given to all members, etc. Safety is a big deal, as it should be. >From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX >Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:01:12 -0400 >Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Content-disposition: inline >X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL > >Yes, but HSTA? It was my impression from looking at the website that they >would be more in the opposite direction, i.e. slow-riding old fuddy-duddies >with PC800s and ST1100s. I guess you can ride like a squid on any bike... >;^) > >Chris Weaver In my experience(ie the cleveland group), the HSTA guys tended to be older guys committed to riding, with a mixture of ST's, Superhawks, Blackbirds, VFR's, Sabre's, BMW's, Yamaha GTS1000's, etc. Very few pure sport bikes, largely more middle of the road. Anything was welcome though. They tended to be very experienced, smooth riders, and as such deceptively fast. However, there was never any competition-rides were strictly at your own pace, and the group pace tended to be moderate. Not slow, but not knee down either. 70-80 % I'd estimate. Read "the Pace" for more details, it is on teh HSTA website, www.ridehsta.com > (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) > >Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:12:16 -0400 (EDT) >From: Kirk Roy >X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX >To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX >cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: NoVA HSTA >Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative > >The truth is, you can by no means judge how fast or safe (not all fast >riders are squids or dangerous, most aren't dangerous or they wouldn't >still be around) a rider is based on bike choice (e.g., the maniacally >fast GoldWing rider who videotapes sport bikers in the twisties), clothing >(multicolored leathers do not make one fast), chicken stripes, etc. It's >not until you're on the road that you can tell. I've actually started to >assume that the guys with sportbikes will be the slow ones as they rarely >have the experience and skills of the older crowd on their sport >tourers... Fred, this is not your cue to start the discussion on absolute >abilities of one bike over another. :) > >Kirk I certainly would consider myself slow compared to many of the guys I rode with in OH-but I've got 2 years experience, some of them had 20 or more. It didn't matter, cause no one cared. I got teased once about the size of my chicken stripes, and it was because I'd just ripped on the guy's CB-1, and very lighthearted in nature. Sorry about the longwindedness, disadvantage of list mode I suppose. Just give me a chance, and don't worry about the HSTA designation. I guarantee that I have no interest in riding unsafely, I really can't afford new plastic right now;-). Greg Oh, anyone else thinking of summit this weekend? I could definately make the trip. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/15/99 HSTA/AMA 7:21:57 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 08:01:15 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00431 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A207DCA01AA; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:01:11 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990616075529.0130d380@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:01:07 -0400 To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Moto air bag? In-Reply-To: <00a801beb769$2a640680$a073c3d0@bruce> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Subject: Moto air bag? >> http://www.eggparka.com/eng/index.shtml I'm not impressed with their activation system - a cheap-looking coiled wire like you might hang a set of keys on. Nor am I impressed with their inflation method - merely using compressed gas (a CO2 cylinder) would take a while to inflate. That's why automotive airbags and other rapid-inflation devices use gas generators (generally using pyrotechnics). Still, there are some interesting side issues-- 1. Other people grabbing the inflation cord ("yanking your chain", as it were) - such as a disgruntled passenger, kids walking by the bike stopped at a traffic light, a competitor pulling up next to you. I think other riders would have a blast pulling your cord at rally's, etc. 2. Accidently pulling the inflation cord - judging by the number of times I've dismounted without unplugging my electric vest, and having it pull loose as I walk away, I think I'd have a number of unintended inflations. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 09:13:00 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA01660 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) id <0FDF00F018NYEA@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:12:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com ([166.37.172.6]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) with ESMTP id <0FDF00K1W8NYIW@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:11:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta04.mcit.com (omzmta04.mcit.com [166.37.194.122]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA17371 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:08:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta04.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990616131144.IEVC632@toddnt> for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:11:44 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:09:11 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: FW: Blue Ridge Parkway Closed - Asheville To: DC-Cycles Message-id: <000801beb7f9$6cea80c0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal FYI > Subject: Blue Ridge Parkway Closed - Asheville > > > No joke. 6-8 mile section of the Parkway north of Asheville, NC. > > On the news this morning... > > "A major rockslide along one part of the Blue Ridge Parkway > is so large, it'll take help from Federal > engineers to clear it. The slide happened around > 10:30 Tuesday morning between Little Switzerland > and Crabtree Meadows. Crews on the scene say one > rock is the size of a large house. Crews aren't sure > when that part of the Parkway will be clear for > traffic." > > This is from WLOS-TV in Asheville, NC. Make your plans accordingly. > The park service rep said that it could take several weeks to blast, > clear, and repave. > > Just in time for the Hoot :(. > > Ride safe. > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 09:22:13 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA01834 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:19:41 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB045C@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Todd Peer '" , "'DC-Cycles '" Subject: RE: Blue Ridge Parkway Closed - Asheville Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:21:31 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Damn, I'm glad that slide happended yesterday instead of Friday afternoon when I was going through there. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Todd Peer To: DC-Cycles Sent: 6/16/99 9:09 AM Subject: FW: Blue Ridge Parkway Closed - Asheville FYI > Subject: Blue Ridge Parkway Closed - Asheville > > > No joke. 6-8 mile section of the Parkway north of Asheville, NC. > > On the news this morning... > > "A major rockslide along one part of the Blue Ridge Parkway > is so large, it'll take help from Federal > engineers to clear it. The slide happened around > 10:30 Tuesday morning between Little Switzerland > and Crabtree Meadows. Crews on the scene say one > rock is the size of a large house. Crews aren't sure > when that part of the Parkway will be clear for > traffic." > > This is from WLOS-TV in Asheville, NC. Make your plans accordingly. > The park service rep said that it could take several weeks to blast, > clear, and repave. > > Just in time for the Hoot :(. > > Ride safe. > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 09:25:44 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA01857 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:25:43 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA03378; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:26:34 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma002977; Wed, 16 Jun 99 09:25:09 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FDF00DS69D04A@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256792.004987E6 ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:23:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:16:09 -0400 Subject: Summit Point This Weekend (was Re: HSTA) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256792.004B256B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I think I'll be going up to Summit on Sunday. (This time on my bike for a change!) I'll be rooting on the dc-cycles racing team. What are the numberplates for the dc-cycles bikes and what classes will they be racing in? It'll help me to know this if I'm to shout insults at other racers. "Your momma drives a cage!" "Nice leathers! You get those at K-Mart?!" etcetera.... Chris Weaver '98 VTR 1000 (I'll be on the VTR with no "chin fairing") Greg Sachs wrote: Oh, anyone else thinking of summit this weekend? I could definately make the trip. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 10:43:57 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f251.hotmail.com [209.185.130.216]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03976 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27009 invoked by uid 0); 16 Jun 1999 14:43:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990616144323.27008.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:43:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.22] Reply-To: mrider@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman To: kirk@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Capitol 1000, was NoVA HSTA Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:43:22 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: Kirk Roy >Todd Peer is indeed a slow riding old fuddy duddy on his ST1100. I can >confirm this from first hand experience... :) He's even got electronic >cruise control. Yep, that's Todd alright. He rode 1280 miles on that ST1100 on Saturday, he was only able to average about 52 mph, and he had to bypass about 60 miles of Route 60 twisties in WV to average that much. On the other hand, I was able to get to 900 miles on my sport bike^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H lawn tractor, I managed to average a phenomenal 37 mph. The Capitol 1000 was a fun event, Dale and Tracy Horstmann helped us plan the route. For Todd and I it wasn't as successful as we wanted. Mark Elledge had another fantastic ride and finished 4th (he was 3rd last year), Louis Caplan got 11th, Bob Broeking got 25th, Harry Greenspun got 29th, I got 44th, Hugh Caldwell got 46th with cords showing on the rear tire for the last 50 miles. Todd's DNF was due to a misunderstanding on the documentation. Leon Begeman _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 10:52:22 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04170 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-239-237.s491.tnt2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.239.237]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA29809 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 99 10:44:37 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: Ducati memorabilia To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just if anyone is interested, you can now attempt to purchase genuine Ducati race memorabilia. For example, want one of the pistons and rods from fogerty's bike? item #500018, currently selling for $300. Want the front fairing from corser's ride at Phillip Island? Signed by him and a winning piece. Yours for $800. How about a genuine 1990 era used 851 frame used by Giancarlo Falappa during the World SBK Championships at the Zeltweg track? Yours for 1800. All items are auctioned, many are signed. Look at: http://memorabilia.ducati.com/ for more info. Enjoy, don't spend too much $$$;-) greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/16/99 HSTA/AMA 10:44:37 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 11:13:12 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA04530 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:12:09 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:12:02 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:10:04 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Subject: Summit Point This Weekend (was Re: HSTA) -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Unfortunately, Real Life has intruded upon race prep for this weekend and so old, stinky #606 won't be making an appearance. Hoping to be able to sneak up for Sunday(?) afternoon, though. On the upside, just got back from Duke's MRI tube, and the brain is still booger-free. Joe '85 Ninja 900 (red/black) From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 11:17:46 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04621 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:17:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id LAA11010; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:17:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:17:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Summit Point This Weekend (was Re: HSTA) In-Reply-To: <85256792.004B256B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > I think I'll be going up to Summit on Sunday. (This time on my bike for a > change!) I'll be rooting on the dc-cycles racing team. What are the > numberplates for the dc-cycles bikes and what classes will they be racing > in? It'll help me to know this if I'm to shout insults at other racers. > "Your momma drives a cage!" "Nice leathers! You get those at K-Mart?!" > etcetera.... Collin Fagan: 305 (Hopefully on his GSXR!) Joe Nagy: 606 Yama RD400 Jeff*: 268 Duc 748 Brian Roach: 117* Yama FZR400 * = My number may change, I don't have my permanent one from WERA yet as I'm a provisional Novice till after this weekend. Also, my brain refuses to remember Jeff's last name this morning. - Brian Roach From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 12:33:13 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05991 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:32:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: once again.. Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:29:20 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sheesh.. I'm getting good at this begging thing. Ok, so I have a ride to Baltimore tomorrow (for my wrist surgery), but still don't have a ride home. I know I have the option of public transportation - but I'd really rather avoid that if at all possible. I should be free to go as of 5pm or so... and have might even have a place to hang out and wait for a couple hours if someone could make it up here later in the evening... So, anyone free, able, and willing to drive into Baltimore at about 5pm, pick me up, and drop me off at my home in College Park? I can offer monitary compensation if that's needed. Thanks for.. well, reading this I suppose.. giving thought to your schedule? umm.. ok.. I'm going now.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 13:32:40 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06978 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:32:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id NAA26736; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:32:00 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from viking.concentric.net (viking [206.173.119.81]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id NAA18065; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:32:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:32:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Cap1000 pictures Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The pictures that I took during that Capitol 1000 can be viewed at: ftp://ftp.wheatintl.com/incoming/dc-cycles/cap1000/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 13:48:09 1999 Return-Path: sgittelman@XXXXXX Received: from relay.atinc.com (relay.atinc.com [207.2.172.252]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA07286 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:48:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from xdata1.atinc.com by relay.atinc.com via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 16 Jun 1999 17:48:08 UT Received: by xdata1.atinc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:46:47 -0400 Message-ID: <20A861493F1FD211A40F00A024D175DC2A8C53@mlnt1.ml.atinc.com> From: "Gittelman, Stuart" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Sold - CLEAN 1994 Virago 750 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:48:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks for the interest to those who replied. I sold the motorcycle yesterday. Look forward to seeing you on the road. Ride safely, - Stuart --------------------- I know this is not a For Sale/Advertising ListServ, but this bike is really in great shape and I am only selling because an opportunity for a Harley at a great price bit me. I am trying to find a good home for my 1994 Virago 750 with only 3925 adult-ridden miles. I am the second owner and it has always been garaged. It is Dark Green and has a windshield, passenger seat back, sport rack and engine guard (both put on two weeks ago - I really hadn't planned on selling), and a new rear tire. I also have a T-bag for it. The original tire was punctured last Fall on Rte. 50 by Rte 28, but the bike never went down. I am asking $4,500. If you are interested, please reply to this e-mail (sgittelman@XXXXXX) or call me at (703) 749-5819 (w); (703) 383-0812 (h). Thanks, Stuart From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 14:57:48 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08846 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:57:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id OAA19288; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:57:43 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id OAA03020; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:57:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Summit Point This Weekend (was Re: HSTA) In-Reply-To: <85256792.004B256B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I plan on heading up to the track late Saturday morning and camping out. I will be spectating Saturday and corner working on Sunday. Drop me a not if you want to join me for the ride on Saturday. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > I think I'll be going up to Summit on Sunday. (This time on my bike for a > change!) I'll be rooting on the dc-cycles racing team. What are the > numberplates for the dc-cycles bikes and what classes will they be racing > in? It'll help me to know this if I'm to shout insults at other racers. > "Your momma drives a cage!" "Nice leathers! You get those at K-Mart?!" > etcetera.... > > Chris Weaver > '98 VTR 1000 > (I'll be on the VTR with no "chin fairing") > > > Greg Sachs wrote: > Oh, anyone else thinking of summit this weekend? I could definately make > the trip. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 17:45:25 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA12179 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-228-151.s24.as7.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.228.151]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA12516; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:45:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <015601beb841$b295cf60$97e4accf@95> From: "Danny Thompson" To: , Subject: Changing the front sprocket Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:46:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I just got the 16 tooth sprocket for my '99 VFR to do the 1 tooth front reduction. Since this is the first time I have done this change, does anyone have any hints, tricks, tips, warnings, suggestions to help me out? Please.... TIA Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 19:28:01 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13947 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-220-11.s265.tnt5.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.220.11]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA25332 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:27:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 99 19:20:20 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: summit this weekend To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'll probably only head out for one day or the other, anyone want to meet in Leesburg Saturday or sunday? I was thinking at the (american?) diner on 7 in leesburg-this is just at the entry of the commercial strip at the edge of town, on the left as you enter. Say 8:30 on Sat? Drop me a line with your thoughts. greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/16/99 HSTA/AMA 7:20:20 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 19:29:31 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13957 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-220-11.s265.tnt5.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.220.11]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA26116 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:29:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 99 19:27:03 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: summit point(again) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Looking at the WERA schedule, Sunday looks better in terms of the racing. So let me know about 8:30 at the diner on leesburg. greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/16/99 HSTA/AMA 7:27:03 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 21:21:53 1999 Return-Path: dhallis@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f159.hotmail.com [209.185.131.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA15808 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 38295 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jun 1999 01:21:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990617012119.38294.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 166.62.206.225 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:21:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [166.62.206.225] From: Doug Allis To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, pc800@XXXXXX Subject: Fwd: Moto air bag? Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:21:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed This has GOT to be A JOKE: >http://www.eggparka.com/eng/index.shtml _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 21:29:27 1999 Return-Path: dhallis@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f112.hotmail.com [209.185.131.175]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA15897 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:29:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 94689 invoked by uid 0); 17 Jun 1999 01:28:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19990617012852.94688.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 166.62.206.225 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:28:51 PDT X-Originating-IP: [166.62.206.225] From: Doug Allis To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: trip planners Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:28:51 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Thanks. I'm not willing to pay for GPS as some others have. I just tried the free on line Deloran (sp?) product. It gave me the same route I chooze on paper, but not until I selected the starting point as Manassas (I live in Springfield). The freebee they threw on the net seems to work much better than yahoo and the like. I'm not willing (yet) to actualy pay though. I'll try others too. >From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> >To: Doug Allis >CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: trip planners >Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:28:55 -0400 > >I'll throw my two cents in.. since I did quite a bit of route planning >for the GPZ rally. I used Street Atlas 6.0 and Microsoft's Streets & >Trips 2000 for my route planning. In my opinion, SA 6.0 is the >better product because it gives much clearer directions.. it knows >that when Route 50 goes through a small town, it's still Route 50... >Streets & Trips wants to tell you to "Proceed west on Main Street >for .5 miles"... talk about confusing! I like the maps better from >Streets & Trips, but it's easier to get SA6 to use particular roads >without having to add additional stops along the way. > >My major pet peeve with SA6 (and previous versions) was always >that the printed route maps were essentially unreadable (big black >lines, circles for the stops). Well, I finally figured out a solution. >First you turn the route into a "draw object," and then you uncheck >"show route on map." What you wind up with is a nice highlighted >line showing your route, without any of the annoying circles for the >stops/vias. I was able to print out a very readable map of a 300 >mile route in WV that way. As far as color maps go, Streets & >Trips will print out some beautiful ones. > >In most cases I already know the roads I want to travel on >(including in WV where I got recommendations beforehand)... my >first try at just letting the software tell me how to go will be when I >ride up to NY to visit my parents...rather than suffer the NJ >Turnpike I'm going to try for a "scenic route" through PA. We'll see >how that goes! :-) > >Anita > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 16 22:23:13 1999 Return-Path: fwegerich@XXXXXX Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA16766 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earthlink.net (ip131.leesburg4.va.pub-ip.psi.net [38.30.171.131]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04910; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37685C93.B086A43@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:25:23 -0400 From: Frank Wegerich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Norloff CC: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Moto air bag? References: <4.1.19990616075529.0130d380@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "EggParka rules"? (-:... Looks like it will really do well if you fall in a lake or river.... prevents you from drowning ... (-: I would like to see a real live(!) demo. Maybe we can check if they have a demonstration video? Their little graphic seems to indicate that it works well when the driver falls of the rear of the bike .... how often does something like this happen? 0.9 seconds to inflate and another second for pulling the "coil wire", seems to be a long time when you slide in a curb or got hit by a car/deer/etc. I guess you need to make sure that you "fly" for a while before you hit the ground so that there is enought time left for this thing to inflate? (-: Frank Wegerich BMW R1100RT Chris Norloff wrote: > >Subject: Moto air bag? > >> http://www.eggparka.com/eng/index.shtml > > I'm not impressed with their activation system - a cheap-looking coiled > wire like you might hang a set of keys on. Nor am I impressed with their > inflation method - merely using compressed gas (a CO2 cylinder) would take > a while to inflate. That's why automotive airbags and other > rapid-inflation devices use gas generators (generally using pyrotechnics). > > Still, there are some interesting side issues-- > 1. Other people grabbing the inflation cord ("yanking your chain", as it > were) - such as a disgruntled passenger, kids walking by the bike stopped > at a traffic light, a competitor pulling up next to you. I think other > riders would have a blast pulling your cord at rally's, etc. > > 2. Accidently pulling the inflation cord - judging by the number of times > I've dismounted without unplugging my electric vest, and having it pull > loose as I walk away, I think I'd have a number of unintended inflations. > > Chris Norloff > Falls Church, Virginia > 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 08:30:59 1999 Return-Path: mjay@XXXXXX Received: from resolver.treev.com ([38.183.229.13]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28303 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tralfaz.herndon.treev.com (treev.com [10.1.1.24]) by resolver.treev.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20322 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tralfaz.treev.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:33:47 -0400 Message-ID: <22F6F36CA6A3D111B95A006097177427D4F2F5@tralfaz.treev.com> From: Michael Jay To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: newbie with fuel system question Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:33:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Hi everybody, I am a dc-cycle list newbie. I just got back into the bike scene this year with a fixer-upper Yamaha Seca 1982 (XJ750RJ) but I have lately been doing more fixing and less riding. Looked over the ride yesterday and noticed a couple things, and I hope you can help. First, the air filter has a faint hint of gas smell, but is dry to the touch. Second, the bike has been limping around on anywhere from 2-4 cylinders. Draining the carbs seems to help, but I still get the feeling while riding of "bucking" between when it seems that all the cylinders fire or back down to the 2-3 limping along. Likewise, it accelerates better with a gradual increase of the throttle as opposed to wide open with a fast throttle twist--my old KZ750H3 would have thrown me off I tried that. I must confess I pulled the no-brainer move of dumping an entire bottle of Chevron/Techron injector cleaner into my tank before filling the tank one day, and since I let it get low one day I have had problems ever since. It sounded like a good idea when I read the post. Also, when draining the carbs, sometimes no gas even comes out of the drain opening, but later after riding and feeling like all 4 are firing again, I can drain all 4 carbs just fine. Does anyone have a vacuum gauge that I could borrow when the time comes--as I have never rebuilt carbs before so synchronizing them will come sometime after I manage to rebuild them. Also, the 82XJ750RJ has the YICS so if anyone of you XS/XJ riders would be so kind as to let me borrow your YICS tool when I do the synchronizing effort, I would appreciate the loaner. Anyway, I am speculating (with help--hi Hugh) that the carbs need rebuilding because every time I fiddle with the carb drain or ride the crud out, the bike seems to run on all 4 again. Do I sound on the beam, oh yeah, the compression checks ok. Also, the tank has some "rust dust" inside it--some of which may be suspended in the gas that I drain, but I can't see for sure. Hope to do some riding with you folks soon, but I have been in "field test" mode with this bike so I need to stay in town until I feel the bike is reliable. Thanks for any help, Mike Jay 82XJ750RJ From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 08:45:52 1999 Return-Path: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28849 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:45:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 85256793.0045D391 ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:42:41 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: Michael Jay cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256793.00454595.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:42:40 -0400 Subject: Re: newbie with fuel system question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline My guess is the carbs need to be torn all the way down so that all gunk, varnish, etc. etc. can be completely cleaned out. The gunk builds up fairly fast on bikes that sit for extended periods of time. Steve From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 09:14:06 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29855 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A497CFD80110; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:13:59 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990617085658.012ea6d0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:13:19 -0400 To: Michael Jay , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: newbie with fuel system question In-Reply-To: <22F6F36CA6A3D111B95A006097177427D4F2F5@tralfaz.treev.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sounds like your major problem is a dirty fuel system. Clean the tank, clean/replace the fuel lines, replace the fuel filter (or if no filter, check the inlet screens at the fuel petcock(s)). Then you might need to clean the carbs, too. A bike of that age has probably been allowed to sit with gas in the fuel system until the gas went bad. The fact that it occasionally runs well might mean the carbs are okay until tank muck gets into them again. If you do rebuild the carbs, you're just putting them back to the condition they were when the factory sync'd them, so no re-sync may be needed. I had a Yamaha 650 Special that kept losing the inlet screens ("fuel filters") off the fuel petcocks. When the gas would get low, the sloshing would knock the screens loose, let dirt into the carbs, then hold the needle valves open and dump raw gas out. Lotsa fun. I doubt the Techron hurt anything, I like it as a cleaner myself. A whole bottle in a 5 gal. fuel tank must have made the engine run pretty rough though! Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar At 08:33 AM 6/17/99 , Michael Jay wrote: >Hi everybody, > >I am a dc-cycle list newbie. > >I just got back into the bike scene this year with a fixer-upper Yamaha Seca >1982 (XJ750RJ) but I have lately been doing more fixing and less riding. > >Looked over the ride yesterday and noticed a couple things, and I hope you >can help. > >First, the air filter has a faint hint of gas smell, but is dry to the >touch. > >Second, the bike has been limping around on anywhere from 2-4 cylinders. > >Draining the carbs seems to help, but I still get the feeling while riding >of "bucking" between when it seems that all the cylinders fire or back down >to the 2-3 limping along. Likewise, it accelerates better with a gradual >increase of the throttle as opposed to wide open with a fast throttle >twist--my old KZ750H3 would have thrown me off I tried that. > >I must confess I pulled the no-brainer move of dumping an entire bottle of >Chevron/Techron injector cleaner into my tank before filling the tank one >day, and since I let it get low one day I have had problems ever since. It >sounded like a good idea when I read the post. > >Also, when draining the carbs, sometimes no gas even comes out of the drain >opening, but later after riding and feeling like all 4 are firing again, I >can drain all 4 carbs just fine. > >Does anyone have a vacuum gauge that I could borrow when the time comes--as >I have never rebuilt carbs before so synchronizing them will come sometime >after I manage to rebuild them. > >Also, the 82XJ750RJ has the YICS so if anyone of you XS/XJ riders would be >so kind as to let me borrow your YICS tool when I do the synchronizing >effort, I would appreciate the loaner. > >Anyway, I am speculating (with help--hi Hugh) that the carbs need rebuilding >because every time I fiddle with the carb drain or ride the crud out, the >bike seems to run on all 4 again. > >Do I sound on the beam, oh yeah, the compression checks ok. Also, the tank >has some "rust dust" inside it--some of which may be suspended in the gas >that I drain, but I can't see for sure. > >Hope to do some riding with you folks soon, but I have been in "field test" >mode with this bike so I need to stay in town until I feel the bike is >reliable. > >Thanks for any help, >Mike Jay >82XJ750RJ From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 09:14:10 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29857 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:14:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 17 Jun 1999 16:14:32 UT Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 9:10 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: newbie with fuel system question Message-ID: <19990617091343272-1900c364@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I would do this but also I would be concerned about the rust that you're in the tank that you're talking about. Lenzy had a CB750F ('75) that would clog the petcock and make the bike run like total crap or not at all. Rust is a big enemy. You'll need to make sure that there is nothing floating around inside the carbs while you're at it which you could take care of during the rebuild. Good luck! Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: newbie with fuel system question Author: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Date: 6/17/99 8:42 AM My guess is the carbs need to be torn all the way down so that all gunk, varnish, etc. etc. can be completely cleaned out. The gunk builds up fairly fast on bikes that sit for extended periods of time. Steve From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 10:01:04 1999 Return-Path: stpeter@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00822 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10ucgA-0006YB-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:58:06 -0400 Received: from jay (ravinc.clark.net [168.143.30.5]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA20889 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:00:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jay St. Peter" To: Subject: Re: Summit Point This Weekend (was Re: HSTA) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:59:51 -0400 Message-ID: <000001beb8c9$ab589880$afc809c0@jay> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199906162300.TAA13505@meretrix.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Brian Roach Wrote: > > Collin Fagan: 305 (Hopefully on his GSXR!) > Joe Nagy: 606 Yama RD400 > Jeff*: 268 Duc 748 > Brian Roach: 117* Yama FZR400 > > Sheesh, miss one weekend and I'm off the team :) I'll be there BOTH days this weekend Jay St. Peter WERA #583 I finally managed to sell my house (woohoo), so I'm going to burn some of the down payment on my new place this weekend. I should be able to race until the end of July or so, then $ will be tight so we'll see. The only bad part is that the buyers of my house want to settle on July 29 (which is just before the WERA endurance race). I badly want to race the 4 hr., but we'll have to see if that would mean a divorce. "umm, yeah honey, I know all our stuff is still on the truck. I'll be back right after the 4 hr." From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 10:26:58 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01181 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id KAA12053; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:26:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:26:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: "Jay St. Peter" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Summit Point This Weekend (was Re: HSTA) In-Reply-To: <000001beb8c9$ab589880$afc809c0@jay> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Jay St. Peter wrote: > Sheesh, miss one weekend and I'm off the team :) > I'll be there BOTH days this weekend > Jay St. Peter WERA #583 Now see... the ONE time I don't ask Collin if you're going, you suddenly appear and make me look silly (Alright, so that's not really that tough...) > I finally managed to sell my house (woohoo), so I'm going to burn some of > the down payment on my new place this weekend. I should be able to race > until the end of July or so, then $ will be tight so we'll see. The only > bad part is that the buyers of my house want to settle on July 29 (which is > just before the WERA endurance race). I badly want to race the 4 hr., but > we'll have to see if that would mean a divorce. "umm, yeah honey, I know > all our stuff is still on the truck. I'll be back right after the 4 hr." Sounds like me in Sept... my new (first) home is currently under construction, due to be completed the first week of sept! - Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 10:48:23 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01586 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com (corp23.kivex.com [208.213.150.23]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.8-KIVEX) with SMTP id KAA05538 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:49:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990617104215.00696eb0@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:42:15 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: Steve Zarpas, Crow Bar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Steve Zarpas, the person who ran the Crow Bar is up to something in Herndon. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/longterm/tech/techthursday/dow nload/download.htm Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 11:09:22 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.114]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01937 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:09:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by wodc7mr0.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgtzw25827; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:09:12 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256793.0053A947 ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:13:48 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Lisa S. Goddard" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256793.0053A80B.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:00:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Steve Zarpas, Crow Bar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/feed/a40433-1999jun17.htm This is where I found the article. Good for Steve! He's a cool guy, I hope this works out for him. : ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Lisa S. Goddard" on 06/17/99 10:42:15 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Steve Zarpas, Crow Bar Steve Zarpas, the person who ran the Crow Bar is up to something in Herndon. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/longterm/tech/techthursday/dow nload/download.htm Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 12:53:15 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA03759 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:53:13 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id MAA19318; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:22:49 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma018550; Thu, 17 Jun 99 12:22:08 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com ([10.9.16.181]) by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FDH00DVHC5J24@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256793.00599921 ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:18:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:14:02 -0400 Subject: Detailed Map Available To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256793.005A1FA3.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hi all. I recently spent a while with Mapquest.com and Photoshop and created a large map of the Virginia back roads and West Virginia panhandle west of route 28. I tiled a large number of Mapquest maps into one large map (approximately 20"x30" at 72 dpi or about 10"x14" at 200dpi). I have saved it in GIF format at about 500k. If others are interested in having this map, I could send it to someone to be included on a website. Also, if there is enough room, I could send it to the FTP-uploadable website. I could also print out 11x17 color copies and hand them out at a dc-cycles ride in the future. I have access to a great color printer at work. The detail of back roads is quite high and should be helpful in planning twisty-road rides. Anyone interested in having this map? Chris Weaver '98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 13:15:40 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04179 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:15:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Anita.dlt.com ([199.4.241.102]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA28822 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:15:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199906171715.NAA28822@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:16:08 -0400 Subject: Anyone riding on Sunday? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) I'm hanging out at Summit Point on Saturday, but would kind of like to get a ride in this weekend as well... anyone doing anything fun? :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 15:47:29 1999 Return-Path: mullins_john@XXXXXX Received: from mclean-mail.usae.bah.com (mclean-mail.usae.bah.com [156.80.5.109]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06916 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:47:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bah.com ([156.80.170.53]) by mclean-mail.usae.bah.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA1C41; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:44:56 -0400 Message-ID: <37694F41.C4E45E9E@bah.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:40:49 -0400 From: "Mullins John" Organization: BAH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Anyone riding on Sunday? References: <199906171715.NAA28822@radagast.wizard.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd be interested in doing some riding on Sunday at anytime to any place. John Mullins 95 Ninja EX500 Anita Lauro wrote: > > I'm hanging out at Summit Point on Saturday, but would kind of like > to get a ride in this weekend as well... anyone doing anything fun? > :-) > > Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 16:15:35 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA07420 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with ESMTP id QAA17102; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990617161412.00a9d660@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:14:29 -0400 To: Mullins John , Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> From: Grant Heffernan Subject: Re: Anyone riding on Sunday? Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <37694F41.C4E45E9E@bah.com> References: <199906171715.NAA28822@radagast.wizard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I'm up for it too... is the rain supposed to stop??? At 03:40 PM 6/17/99 -0400, Mullins John wrote: >I'd be interested in doing some riding on Sunday at anytime to any >place. > >John Mullins >95 Ninja EX500 > >Anita Lauro wrote: > > > > I'm hanging out at Summit Point on Saturday, but would kind of like > > to get a ride in this weekend as well... anyone doing anything fun? > > :-) > > > > Anita ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://ussales/granth From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 16:55:15 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08057 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:55:13 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id QAA21181; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:56:06 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma020272; Thu, 17 Jun 99 16:54:28 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com ([10.9.16.181]) by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FDH00JWWOU4CM@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256793.0072AE04 ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:52:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:45:36 -0400 Subject: Maps Now Online at FTP Server To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256793.0072B295.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Thanks to Mike Troutman's help, there are two maps on the DC-Cycles server that should help some people out. Go to ftp://ftp.wheatintl.com/incoming/dc-cycles/regionmap.gif for a high-level regional view of the western twisties. Go to ftp://ftp.wheatintl.com/incoming/dc-cycles/detailmap.gif for a larger, more detailed view of the same area. I have 30 or so color copies of the detailed map that I will bring to the next dc-cycles ride (and to Summit Point on Sunday) for those who are interested. Chris Weaver '98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 19:05:45 1999 Return-Path: lmeyer@XXXXXX Received: from mail4.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe4.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA10446 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mgfairfax.rr.com ([24.28.195.247]) by mail4.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:03:50 -0400 Message-ID: <37697FCA.26C0336C@mgfairfax.rr.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:07:54 -0400 From: Larry Meyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Summit Point Schedule References: <199906171715.NAA28822@radagast.wizard.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What's the schedule for DC Cycles Racing at Summit this weekend? I'm trying to pick which day to head on out. Larry Meyer Annandale, VA '97 Bandit 1200 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 19:30:42 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA10878 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:30:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer (207-172-120-167.s167.tnt14.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.120.167]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA01213; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:34:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "LindaT" To: "DC-CYCLES" , "CBR" Subject: Another almost statistic Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:29:29 -0400 Message-ID: <00d101beb919$3f4107e0$0b2daccf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal I made a fairly substantial booboo 10 miles into my 40 mile evening commute. Inner Loop, PG County, it was a dark and stormy night. Ok, it was still light and just raining and I grabbed too much front brake. So, now I know what it feels like to go down, on the beltway, during rush hour traffic and frankly, it hurts. I don't think anything is broken (you win Brian), but I'm pretty well bruised up. The front fairings on the left side are trashed, I scraped yellow paint off the road onto the engine cover (which is still intact but badly scuffed), lost the left mirror, broke the windshield and I'm not sure what else on the bike. My brand new left saddlebag is scuffed as well, though my work laptop is still operational (Thank the gods). The 'Stich is slightly scuffed, my helmet has a bad scuff on the visor and front left side. My left Held glove has one of the metal palm sliders torn loose and is scuffed on the knuckles. The seat and the saddlebags separated from the bike, so everything I had under the seat went flying. The stock tool kit is still there, but my tire repair kit is awol. The car in front and behind me stopped and helped me right the bike (both women). The cops showed up immediately - even before the bike was up. More cops showed up (lots more) and a very large, honking fire truck. It was something to behold. I was not charged with anything (it wasn't even written up) and I refused medical treatment. The bike started ( after some coaxing) and I started home. It started running really rough after a short while, and when I hit more stop-go traffic, it stalled multiple times. I thought sure I was going to get stuck on the Wilson Bridge (one of my nightmares). Obviously, I made it home and now I'm tending to my wounds (a coupla small abrasions on my left arm) and considering how lucky I really am. Very, very lucky. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (57K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 19:51:07 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA11322 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (216-164-243-212.s212.tnt11.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.243.212]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA28156 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:51:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 99 19:47:07 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: weekend ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm game for sat. Also, is anyone intending to meet me in leesburg on sunday morning to head to summit? Just a question of how rigidly I keep the 8:30 I said. Drop me a line if you'll be at the (american?) diner on 7 as you enter leesburg from the east. Greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/17/99 HSTA/AMA 7:47:07 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 19:58:31 1999 Return-Path: khafre@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA11422 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:58:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from erols.com (207-172-40-80.s80.tnt11.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.40.80]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29825; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37698AD7.2828020B@erols.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:55:03 -0400 From: "John A. Wilson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Anyone riding on Sunday? References: <199906171715.NAA28822@radagast.wizard.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can count me in too for Sunday. John 93 Katana 750 Anita Lauro wrote: > I'm hanging out at Summit Point on Saturday, but would kind of like > to get a ride in this weekend as well... anyone doing anything fun? > :-) > > Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 17 20:41:28 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from gecko.troutman.org (root@XXXXXX [216.164.237.184]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12209 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:41:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA03997; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:41:36 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma003995; Thu, 17 Jun 99 20:41:31 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990617204023.00934f00@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:41:14 -0400 To: "LindaT" From: Mike T Subject: Re: Another almost statistic Cc: "DC-CYCLES" In-Reply-To: <00d101beb919$3f4107e0$0b2daccf@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The only thing that matters is that you weren't seriously hurt. Hope repairs won't be too expensive! _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 00:01:31 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15539 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id AAA12742; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:01:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:01:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: Larry Meyer cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Summit Point Schedule In-Reply-To: <37697FCA.26C0336C@mgfairfax.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Larry Meyer wrote: > What's the schedule for DC Cycles Racing at Summit this weekend? I'm > trying to pick which day to head on out. Check out http://www.wera.com/pages/regsched.htm for a "generic" WERA weekend schedule. Saturday has the 20 lap races, and I believe that this weekend every race will contain at least one DC Cycles rider. This weekend has no rider school (pretty sure anyway) Sunday is harder to call... they often re-arrange things depending on time and race sizes... but again, we're all on different size bikes and so most races will have someone in it. - Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 07:07:35 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA24220 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:05:37 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB050C@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'LindaT'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Another almost statistic Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:06:08 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sorry to hear that Linda, sounds like it could have been much worse. Glenn I made a fairly substantial booboo 10 miles into my 40 mile evening commute. Inner Loop, PG County, it was a dark and stormy night. Ok, it was still light and just raining and I grabbed too much front brake. So, now I know From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 07:30:19 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA24577 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from njb140r1.ems.att.com ([135.65.202.58]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id HAA06902 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from njb140bh2.ems.att.com by njb140r1.ems.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/ATTEMS-1.4.1 sol2) id HAA01060; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:29:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by njb140bh2.ems.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:29:33 -0400 Message-ID: <9FE88F6AE3C1D211AE530000C0E871EE3B5518@vae820po01.nova.att.com> From: "Crishock, Richard M, BGM" To: "'DCC'" Subject: Re: Maps Now Online at FTP Server Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:29:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Thanks Chris! Very nice mappage! Now the question for the natives... Is 704 the same as Harmony Church Rd.? It runs between Hamilton and Rt. 15. We stopped there in the fall on the only DCC ride I have been on. I really like that road, but I don't see it named on the map. Thanks, Rich '78 Triumph Bonneville '99 Enfield Bullet Sterling Chris Weaver wrote... >Thanks to Mike Troutman's help, there are two maps on the DC-Cycles server >that should help some people out. > >Go to >ftp://ftp.wheatintl.com/incoming/dc-cycles/regionmap.gif >for a high-level regional view of the western twisties. > >Go to >ftp://ftp.wheatintl.com/incoming/dc-cycles/detailmap.gif >for a larger, more detailed view of the same area. > >I have 30 or so color copies of the detailed map that I will bring to the >next dc-cycles ride (and to Summit Point on Sunday) for those who are >interested. > >Chris Weaver >'98 VTR 1000 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 07:47:07 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA24815 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 18 Jun 1999 14:47:26 UT Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 7:44 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:Another almost statistic Message-ID: <19990618074647539-1dd7896f@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Glad that you weren't seriously hurt. Here's to a speedy recovery for both rider and bike! :-) Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Another almost statistic Author: ljtanner@XXXXXX (LindaT) Date: 6/17/99 7:29 PM Obviously, I made it home and now I'm tending to my wounds (a coupla small abrasions on my left arm) and considering how lucky I really am. Very, very lucky. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (57K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 08:42:02 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA25729 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AE8DCF601FE; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:41:49 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990618082804.012e2c00@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:29:00 -0400 To: "LindaT" , "DC-CYCLES" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Another almost statistic In-Reply-To: <00d101beb919$3f4107e0$0b2daccf@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:29 PM 6/17/99 , LindaT wrote: >I made a fairly substantial booboo 10 miles into my 40 mile evening commute. >Inner Loop, PG County, it was a dark and stormy night. ... >Obviously, I made it home and now I'm tending to my wounds (a coupla small >abrasions on my left arm) and considering how lucky I really am. Very glad to hear you're basically okay. Thank goodness you were wearing protective gear. best wishes, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 08:49:50 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA26063 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:49:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flf960r1.ems.att.com ([135.71.244.37]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id IAA18090 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:49:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from njb140bh2.ems.att.com by flf960r1.ems.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/ATTEMS-1.4.1 sol2) id IAA22122; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by njb140bh2.ems.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:49:00 -0400 Message-ID: <9FE88F6AE3C1D211AE530000C0E871EE3B551D@vae820po01.nova.att.com> From: "Crishock, Richard M, BGM" To: "'DCC'" Subject: travel advice sought (no moto content) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:48:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain A friend here at work is going up to Philly tonight. He is leaving from Arlington early this afternoon. He wants to know how he can miss the weekend beach traffic. Any advice? Thanks very much in advance, Rich (Please respond directly to me. I am on the digest) From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 09:11:46 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA26709 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:11:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:09:36 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB052D@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Crishock, Richard M, BGM '" , "''DCC' '" Subject: RE: travel advice sought (no moto content) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:10:05 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) As long as he gets out of the DC area before 3:00 I'd say he's OK. The real problems begin at the WW bridge and the US 50 outside the Beltway. If he's in Arlington, have him get on I-395 to South Capitol to I-295 to the BW parkway. Once he gets to the parkway he should only run into normal rush hour traffic since beach traffic will be flowing the oppisite direction. Glenn A friend here at work is going up to Philly tonight. He is leaving from Arlington early this afternoon. He wants to know how he can miss the weekend beach traffic. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 09:21:03 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net (chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.98]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA26974 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:21:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by chi6sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgudh22094; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:20:52 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256794.0049C4B8 ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:25:44 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "LindaT" cc: "DC-CYCLES" , "CBR" Message-ID: <85256794.0049C336.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:11:59 -0400 Subject: Re: Another almost statistic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I'm very very glad you're ok. How are you doing today? - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "LindaT" on 06/17/99 07:29:29 PM To: "DC-CYCLES" , "CBR" cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Another almost statistic I made a fairly substantial booboo 10 miles into my 40 mile evening commute. Inner Loop, PG County, it was a dark and stormy night. Ok, it was still light and just raining and I grabbed too much front brake. So, now I know what it feels like to go down, on the beltway, during rush hour traffic and frankly, it hurts. I don't think anything is broken (you win Brian), but I'm pretty well bruised up. The front fairings on the left side are trashed, I scraped yellow paint off the road onto the engine cover (which is still intact but badly scuffed), lost the left mirror, broke the windshield and I'm not sure what else on the bike. My brand new left saddlebag is scuffed as well, though my work laptop is still operational (Thank the gods). The 'Stich is slightly scuffed, my helmet has a bad scuff on the visor and front left side. My left Held glove has one of the metal palm sliders torn loose and is scuffed on the knuckles. The seat and the saddlebags separated from the bike, so everything I had under the seat went flying. The stock tool kit is still there, but my tire repair kit is awol. The car in front and behind me stopped and helped me right the bike (both women). The cops showed up immediately - even before the bike was up. More cops showed up (lots more) and a very large, honking fire truck. It was something to behold. I was not charged with anything (it wasn't even written up) and I refused medical treatment. The bike started ( after some coaxing) and I started home. It started running really rough after a short while, and when I hit more stop-go traffic, it stalled multiple times. I thought sure I was going to get stuck on the Wilson Bridge (one of my nightmares). Obviously, I made it home and now I'm tending to my wounds (a coupla small abrasions on my left arm) and considering how lucky I really am. Very, very lucky. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (57K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 09:37:46 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27226 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA22610 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:37:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: travel advice sought (no moto content) In-Reply-To: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB052D@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM wrote: > If he's in Arlington, have him get on I-395 to South Capitol to I-295 > to the BW parkway. Of course, you can't just go from 395 to 295. You've got to use either Howard Rd or the Suitland Pkwy exit to get turned around. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 09:43:05 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27314 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:43:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com (corp23.kivex.com [208.213.150.23]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.8-KIVEX) with SMTP id JAA06386 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990618093659.00696104@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:36:59 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: Y2K sewage problem in Van Nuys, CA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" something like this could make beltway commuting on a bike really fun! A Y2K test on Van Nuys, CA has caused 4,000,000 gallons of raw sewage to spill into the streets and a public park. I consider it a taste of things to come. http://www.cbs2.com/news/stories/news-990617-081237.html Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 10:07:58 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27699 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:07:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990618140958.4056.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.161.15.131] by web307.yahoomail.com; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:09:58 PDT Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:09:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Summit Point Schedule To: Larry Meyer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'll be racing the heavyweight classes this weekend.. one 20 lap race on Saturday, and three 8 lap sprints on Sunday...Practice sessions are from 0800 through about 1100, with racing starting after lunchtime... in the past, I've been the 2nd or 3rd race on Saturday...and generally been the later races on Sunday...But as Brian said, between the four of us racing this weekend, we have all the classes covered. Brian is on a lightweight bike (FZR400 and a damn fast one at that!!), Jay St. Peter is on a middleweight bike (F2), Jeff Ozmen (list lurker) is on a 748 Ducati which easily goes either middleweight or heavyweight (he took out the big bore kit as well as picked up sponsorship from Moto Europa!!), and me on the GSXR750 in the heavyweight classes.... See ya'll out there... we'll be adjacent to the restrooms across from the registration building... Collin --- Larry Meyer wrote: > What's the schedule for DC Cycles Racing at Summit this weekend? I'm > trying to pick which day to head on out. > > Larry Meyer > Annandale, VA > '97 Bandit 1200 > > > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 10:19:09 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f39.hotmail.com [209.185.131.102]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27871 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 37647 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jun 1999 14:18:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990618141820.37646.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.23 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:18:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.23] Reply-To: mrider@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Another almost statistic Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:18:20 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hope you heal quickly Linda. Bikes with that many miles ought to have a couple of marks on them, it adds character. Don't fix all the marks, leave something to remind you of the incident. Leon. At 07:29 PM 6/17/99 , LindaT wrote: >I made a fairly substantial booboo 10 miles into my 40 mile evening >commute. >Inner Loop, PG County, it was a dark and stormy night. ... >Obviously, I made it home and now I'm tending to my wounds (a coupla small >abrasions on my left arm) and considering how lucky I really am. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 10:21:10 1999 Return-Path: DGlassJr@XXXXXX Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27950 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:21:09 -0400 (EDT) From: DGlassJr@XXXXXX Received: from DGlassJr@XXXXXX (3932) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2GJTa17124 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3dfc72a6.249baf91@aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:20:01 EDT Subject: Anyone going to Budds Creek this weekend? To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Just wondering if any listers are planning to go to Budds Creek MX Nationals this weekend. I'll probably have to drive there because the family wants to take me for Father's day. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 10:41:03 1999 Return-Path: psi_hobbes@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (f103.hotmail.com [207.82.250.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA28222 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49898 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jun 1999 14:40:36 -0000 Message-ID: <19990618144036.49897.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.172.7.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:40:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.172.7.13] From: Kirt Senser To: gixer_racer@XXXXXX, lmeyer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Summit Point Schedule Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:40:35 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I heard that you can pick up used DOT Racing tires up at summit point for cheap as dirt. These tires have only been used for one race, and then are sold at a fraction of the cost. I'm defintely looking for some new tires, and would like to get some nice sticky race tires that are still legal for street use. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? By the way, I have a 96 CBR 600F3... 120s on the front 160s on the back I believe... Hobbes ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Collin T. Fagan" To: Larry Meyer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Summit Point Schedule Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:09:58 -0700 (PDT) I'll be racing the heavyweight classes this weekend.. one 20 lap race on Saturday, and three 8 lap sprints on Sunday...Practice sessions are from 0800 through about 1100, with racing starting after lunchtime... in the past, I've been the 2nd or 3rd race on Saturday...and generally been the later races on Sunday...But as Brian said, between the four of us racing this weekend, we have all the classes covered. Brian is on a lightweight bike (FZR400 and a damn fast one at that!!), Jay St. Peter is on a middleweight bike (F2), Jeff Ozmen (list lurker) is on a 748 Ducati which easily goes either middleweight or heavyweight (he took out the big bore kit as well as picked up sponsorship from Moto Europa!!), and me on the GSXR750 in the heavyweight classes.... See ya'll out there... we'll be adjacent to the restrooms across from the registration building... Collin --- Larry Meyer wrote: > What's the schedule for DC Cycles Racing at Summit this weekend? I'm > trying to pick which day to head on out. > > Larry Meyer > Annandale, VA > '97 Bandit 1200 > > > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 10:41:23 1999 Return-Path: bernescut@XXXXXX Received: from raphael.catholic.org (root@XXXXXX [207.95.245.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28232 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:41:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ACRE1.ncea.org ([12.4.21.69]) by raphael.catholic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA12290 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:41:09 -0700 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:36:50 -0400 Message-ID: <01BEB976.79280D20.bernescut@ncea.org> From: Cedric Bernescut Reply-To: "bernescut@XXXXXX" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Y2K sewage problem in Van Nuys, CA Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:36:49 -0400 Organization: NCEA X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Couldn't resist popping out of lurk mode-this is a great story! I grew up there and know the plant's location quite well. I love computers. The best part is that the plant is surrounded by a flood basin; the government leases the land to a grower who plants corn on it. I'll make a mental note the next time I go home to see the folks not to eat any corn on the cob for dinner :) Cedric AMA 663626 CBR600F Annandale, VA "On the other hand, you have different fingers." -----Original Message----- From: Lisa S. Goddard [SMTP:Lisa@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 9:37 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Y2K sewage problem in Van Nuys, CA something like this could make beltway commuting on a bike really fun! From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 13:38:25 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01591 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A40AC740256; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:38:18 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990618132508.013154e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:25:29 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Y2K sewage problem in Van Nuys, CA In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990618093659.00696104@kivex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:36 AM 6/18/99 , Lisa S. Goddard wrote: >something like this could make beltway commuting on a bike really fun! > >A Y2K test on Van Nuys, CA has caused 4,000,000 gallons of raw sewage >to spill into the streets and a public park. > >I consider it a taste of things to come. > >http://www.cbs2.com/news/stories/news-990617-081237.html Is that what Linda hit? :-) Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 14:13:39 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02272 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:13:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer (207-172-64-123.s123.tnt17.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.64.123]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA28021; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:13:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "LindaT" To: , "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: [cbr] Another almost statistic Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:13:32 -0400 Message-ID: <000101beb9b6$45f7b280$7b40accf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <85256794.0053882A.00@notes4.nmss.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Thanks for all the good wishes. The soreness is just starting to kick in, so I'll be marinating in the jacuzzi for the next few days. I took the bike up to Cyclesport Springfield for a look over. I got there before they opened, so I was loitering outside. When the guy showed up, he asked with some concern, if I was ok? Jeez, I must look like shit. Ed there confirms that it looks like cosmetic damage only. I got a left mirror from them, so I'll get that back on when I think I can move better. D - get those pants, think that it's only costing you that extra interest and do it. Jeanette - Thanks for asking, but I feel like shit. Lifting my left arm more than 45 degrees is difficult. hello jacuzzi! I sure hope this gets manageable by next Tuesday as I'm scheduled to work the Raleigh/Washington AIDS ride. See comment about old bones. Derek - thanks for the offer, but I've got two other windshields here (stock and stock size purple), so I'll just put one of those on. Lisa - I really think I'm just bruised. Old bones don't like that sort of activity. Mike - the stich did a top notch job. The small abrasions must be from the inside of the suit. They are both on my lower left arm and have bruises underneath. I didn't even notice them myself. Todd pointed them out. The right gear made an enormous difference I think I'm not going to involve the insurance company in this. I'm going to hone my plastic repair skills to a fever pitch. Some slight additional damage: my rear left turnsignal is not working and the Throttlemeister dummy bar end weight (left) is moving around entirely too much. These will both take some investigation. As to what actually happened, I don't have any clearer idea. Shoulda used the rear brake instead, I guess. I do have a clear vision of hitting hard on by butt (and can I feel it!) and then flopping over onto my left side. I don't know how my helmet hit, but some things are meant to be a mystery. The car that I passed just before the incident, I passed because they had such a large space between them and the next vehicle. I thought - that's who I want behind me. Things that make you go hmmmmmm. I bought a new Arai helmet, a Quantum E. It was time. Still feeling lucky. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (57K miles and counting...slowly) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 14:55:50 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA03091 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990618185626.11593.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.122.252.38] by web304.yahoomail.com; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:56:26 PDT Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:56:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Summit Point Schedule To: Kirt Senser , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, I doubt you'll find any for sale that have only seen one race, but you will find some that have only one weekend or so on them... You'll pay in accordance with how much wear is on the tires... for a set of 207s or Pilots with only one or two weekends on them, I'd say your looking between $100 and $150 per set... Some days youll find better deals, other days there isn't anything available.. I generally sell my Avon take offs From $50-$125 per set depending on how long I use them. I'll have a set coming off AFTER this weekend, that I'll probably be looking at getting $75 for the set. We'll see what they look like when the weekend is over since it's supposed to be a scorcher, and I like to steer with my rear tire... usually meas a lot of rear tire wear... Unfortunately, the sizes I run are too big for your F2... I run 120 front, 180 rear.... For your F2, I think you can go as high as a 170 rear without it affecting handling or clearance problems. Well, I'm heading out there in less than an hour or so, so feel free to stop by the pit area near the rest rooms... Penny made up a great big pot of beef stew so stop in and help us eat it since I don't want to have to find a way to stuff the leftovers into an ice chest tonight... :) Collin --- Kirt Senser wrote: > I heard that you can pick up used DOT Racing tires up at summit point > for > cheap as dirt. These tires have only been used for one race, and > then are > sold at a fraction of the cost. I'm defintely looking for some new > tires, > and would like to get some nice sticky race tires that are still > legal for > street use. === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 16:26:05 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA04747 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 18 Jun 1999 23:25:51 UT Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:16 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "psi_hobbes@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: Summit Point Schedule Message-ID: <19990618161756285-f84c04@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii FYI: The F2 rim can only handle properly a 160/60ZR17.... the 170 is too wide for the 4.5" wheel and will adversely effect handling. To run the 170 I would recommend at least an F3 wheel (5.0" width). I know this because I have run the 170 on my '86 VFR (with F2 wheels and suspension) and found nothing but ill-fated handling until I went with the 160... much better AND predictable handling. I'm sure that you'll be able to find some 160/60-17 take-offs at the track without a problem. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Summit Point Schedule Author: gixer_racer@XXXXXX (Collin T. Fagan) Date: 6/18/99 2:56 PM Unfortunately, the sizes I run are too big for your F2... I run 120 front, 180 rear.... For your F2, I think you can go as high as a 170 rear without it affecting handling or clearance problems. Collin --- Kirt Senser wrote: > I heard that you can pick up used DOT Racing tires up at summit point > for > cheap as dirt. These tires have only been used for one race, and > then are > sold at a fraction of the cost. I'm defintely looking for some new > tires, > and would like to get some nice sticky race tires that are still > legal for > street use. === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 16:41:04 1999 Return-Path: psi_hobbes@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (f262.hotmail.com [207.82.251.153]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05044 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32835 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jun 1999 20:40:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19990618204054.32834.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.172.7.13 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:40:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.172.7.13] From: Kirt Senser To: TZell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re[2]: Summit Point Schedule Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:40:54 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I do have a 1996 600F3, but I don't know why I would want to bother going up to a 170 rear tire. What exactly would that do for me (aside from look cool cuz the tire is wide). I was hoping to keep the stock tire sizes, and just get stickier tires. My current tires (the stock tires that came with the bike) have tons of tread left, but looks kinda like they have a tiny bit of cracking inside the tread lines. Is this really bad??? I'm planning on replacing the tires anyways, but should I make this my top priority??? Hobbes ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Tom Zell" To: "psi_hobbes@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: Summit Point Schedule Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:16 -0400 FYI: The F2 rim can only handle properly a 160/60ZR17.... the 170 is too wide for the 4.5" wheel and will adversely effect handling. To run the 170 I would recommend at least an F3 wheel (5.0" width). I know this because I have run the 170 on my '86 VFR (with F2 wheels and suspension) and found nothing but ill-fated handling until I went with the 160... much better AND predictable handling. I'm sure that you'll be able to find some 160/60-17 take-offs at the track without a problem. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Summit Point Schedule Author: gixer_racer@XXXXXX (Collin T. Fagan) Date: 6/18/99 2:56 PM Unfortunately, the sizes I run are too big for your F2... I run 120 front, 180 rear.... For your F2, I think you can go as high as a 170 rear without it affecting handling or clearance problems. Collin --- Kirt Senser wrote: > I heard that you can pick up used DOT Racing tires up at summit point > for > cheap as dirt. These tires have only been used for one race, and > then are > sold at a fraction of the cost. I'm defintely looking for some new > tires, > and would like to get some nice sticky race tires that are still > legal for > street use. === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 16:46:14 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05213 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:45:29 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:45:28 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:42:48 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, TZell@XXXXXX, psi_hobbes@XXXXXX Subject: Re[2]: Summit Point Schedule -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Yeah, dude, but the 180 looks baaaaad, who cares 'bout handling? ;-) --Joe D'Squid >>> "Tom Zell" - 6/18/99 4:16 PM >>> FYI: The F2 rim can only handle properly a 160/60ZR17.... the 170 is too wide for the 4.5" wheel and will adversely effect handling. To run the 170 I would recommend at least an F3 wheel (5.0" width). I know this because I have run the 170 on my '86 VFR (with F2 wheels and suspension) and found nothing but ill-fated handling until I went with the 160... much better AND predictable handling. I'm sure that you'll be able to find some 160/60-17 take-offs at the track without a problem. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Summit Point Schedule Author: gixer_racer@XXXXXX (Collin T. Fagan) Date: 6/18/99 2:56 PM Unfortunately, the sizes I run are too big for your F2... I run 120 front, 180 rear.... For your F2, I think you can go as high as a 170 rear without it affecting handling or clearance problems. Collin --- Kirt Senser wrote: > I heard that you can pick up used DOT Racing tires up at summit point > for > cheap as dirt. These tires have only been used for one race, and > then are > sold at a fraction of the cost. I'm defintely looking for some new > tires, > and would like to get some nice sticky race tires that are still > legal for > street use. === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 18:15:57 1999 Return-Path: lmeyer@XXXXXX Received: from mail3.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe3.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.50]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06888 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mgfairfax.rr.com ([24.28.195.247]) by mail3.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:12:14 -0400 Message-ID: <376AC5A4.9694E53C@mgfairfax.rr.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:18:12 -0400 From: Larry Meyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kirk Roy CC: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: travel advice sought (no moto content) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Or you can go to Pennsylvania Avenue, make the right at the top of the ramp, cross the bridge, and make your next left onto the road that becomes 295/BW Parkway. I add now that it's 6:20 pm and way too late to do any good. Larry Kirk Roy wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM wrote: > > If he's in Arlington, have him get on I-395 to South Capitol to I-295 > > to the BW parkway. > > Of course, you can't just go from 395 to 295. You've got to use either > Howard Rd or the Suitland Pkwy exit to get turned around. > > Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 18:59:27 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA07576 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:59:26 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (3960) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2PFJa11719 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:58:43 EDT Subject: Re: Another almost statistic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Glad to hear you weren't hurt!! You were lucky not to get hit by a cage! Rob VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" (still recovering from my little spill) From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 19:41:57 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08285 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-238-160.s160.tnt2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.238.160]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07065 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 99 19:36:55 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 06/18/99 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Linda, glad to hear you're alright, I might warn you that you'll be sore longer than you'll believe. Took me 2 monthes after going down at 30. Also, to the guy with the tire question: i would avoid going to the 170, as it will slow down your turn in. Do it if you want the squid points, but if you're riding the 170/60 rear will turn slower. Same reason I have a 170/60 instead of 180/55 on my bike. Also, the dunlop 207 rears at least seem to be very wide for their size codes, the 160 is close to 170's and so on. Greg Hope to see a few people sunday @ summit, I'm gonna explore for ride routes tomorrow. Don't really have a plan, other than starting at manassas and doing 150 or so, if any one is interested call me at 703-848-8137. Thanks, Greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/18/99 HSTA/AMA 7:36:55 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 19:44:31 1999 Return-Path: lmeyer@XXXXXX Received: from mail1.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe1.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.48]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08361 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mgfairfax.rr.com ([24.28.195.247]) by mail1.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:39:17 -0400 Message-ID: <376ADA61.BD979818@mgfairfax.rr.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 19:46:42 -0400 From: Larry Meyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Y2K sewage problem in Van Nuys, CA References: <3.0.3.32.19990618093659.00696104@kivex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Begging the question, "Which is more dangerous - Y2K or Y2K testing?!?" Larry "Lisa S. Goddard" wrote: > something like this could make beltway commuting on a bike really fun! > > A Y2K test on Van Nuys, CA has caused 4,000,000 gallons of raw sewage > to spill into the streets and a public park. > > I consider it a taste of things to come. > > http://www.cbs2.com/news/stories/news-990617-081237.html > > Lisa Goddard, MIS Specialist > Kivex.com > Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 21:50:46 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10392 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:50:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-78-94.s31.as6.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.78.94]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA20587; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:50:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001701beb9f6$bf540300$5e4eaccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "Greg Sachs" , Subject: Re: Summit Point-Sunday Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:55:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Hey Greg, I plan on going to the Point on Sunday also. Are you still meeting in Leesburg at 8:30? If not I will see you all there. Thanks, Brian N 96 Yamaha FZR600 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 21:57:47 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10489 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-78-94.s31.as6.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.78.94]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA22783 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 21:57:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002201beb9f7$bd6005c0$5e4eaccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Pocono Cycle Festival Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:02:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Has anyone every got to Pocono Raceway? I just requested a brochure on the Pocono Cycle Festival, Aug 27-29. Its run by the FormulaUSA. The ad in SportRider shows a number of races, a riding school and the Gary Rothwell stunt show. I also heard they are also running the Aprilia 250 challenge that weekend. I plan on going and as soon as I get more info, I will post it. Thanks Brian N, 96 Yamaha FZR600 PS, Glad neither you or the bike were hurt to bad. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 18 22:31:24 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11022 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:31:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer (207-172-53-205.s205.tnt4.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.53.205]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA03061 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:31:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "LindaT" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Pocono Cycle Festival Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:31:21 -0400 Message-ID: <000f01beb9fb$d142d320$7b40accf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <002201beb9f7$bd6005c0$5e4eaccf@brn626> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal I went up last year for the FormulaUSA races and saw Rothwell a coupla times. It was interesting. The track is (was) a disaster. The facilities really sucked, but the racing was good. I think I was offended by the umbrella girl contest. There were folks drag racing in the infield all night Saturday. Next time I go, I find a hotel room. FYI LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (57K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ Brian N asked: Has anyone every got to Pocono Raceway? I just requested a brochure on the Pocono Cycle Festival, Aug 27-29. Its run by the FormulaUSA. The ad in SportRider shows a number of races, a riding school and the Gary Rothwell stunt show. I also heard they are also running the Aprilia 250 challenge that weekend. I plan on going and as soon as I get more info, I will post it. From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 19 00:21:40 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm05sm.pmm.cw.net (pm05sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.154]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA12684 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr50-dialup306.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.197.58]) by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35323) with SMTP id <0FDK007FP42XXC@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 04:21:06 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:20:47 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: Pocono Cycle Festival To: dc-cycles Message-id: <002301beb9e9$98d27340$3ac53ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <002201beb9f7$bd6005c0$5e4eaccf@brn626> I've gone the last 2 years but didn't get to experience much of the festivities last time out. Let's just say I left with 2 crashed bikes and riders in my pickup and my bike was at home. 8^O >From the year before and what I got to see last year, it's a blast. So many bikes, good racing, great stunts from Rothwell, lots of vendors, but also plenty of super squids. If you plan to camp, don't expect to sleep. Wah wah wah all night long. Highly recommended..... Jon ICQ# 11193913 92 FZR600 *new web address* http://www.come.to/fzrmofo http://www.angelfire.com/md/fzrmofo/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian N To: dc-cycles Sent: Saturday, June 19, 1999 2:02 AM Subject: Pocono Cycle Festival > Has anyone every got to Pocono Raceway? I just requested a brochure on the > Pocono Cycle Festival, Aug 27-29. Its run by the FormulaUSA. The ad in > SportRider shows a number of races, a riding school and the Gary Rothwell > stunt show. I also heard they are also running the Aprilia 250 challenge > that weekend. I plan on going and as soon as I get more info, I will post > it. > > Thanks Brian N, 96 Yamaha FZR600 > > PS, Glad neither you or the bike were hurt to bad. > > From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 19 07:59:25 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA23034 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 07:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA05774 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 07:59:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA18743 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 07:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursulina (207-172-53-167.s167.tnt4.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.53.167]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id HAA23839 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 07:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01f401beba64$7dcc75c0$3375accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: Summit Point-Sunday Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:00:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hi Brian, I'm going to try to make it to Summit Point on Sunday. Just depends on how much I get done today. If so, I hope to see you and other friendly DC Cycles faces around. :-) - - Ursulina -----Original Message----- From: Brian N To: Greg Sachs ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Summit Point-Sunday >Hey Greg, I plan on going to the Point on Sunday also. Are you still meeting >in Leesburg at 8:30? >If not I will see you all there. >Thanks, Brian N 96 Yamaha FZR600 > > From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 19 10:08:17 1999 Return-Path: OsbornKev@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA26510 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:08:15 -0400 (EDT) From: OsbornKev@XXXXXX Received: from OsbornKev@XXXXXX (8070) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 3NUMa07597; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:07:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:07:09 EDT Subject: Re: weekend ride To: ges6@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 24 I definitely would like to meet up with some others to ride to Summit Point this Sunday. Is the official meeting place this diner in Leesburg on Rt. 7? If so please e-mail specific directions as I will be coming from MD (specifically Bowie). Also in regard to that, a departure time that is a little later than 8:30 would be better given the 1 hour commute or more. Also, an MD riders going to meet there please let me know and we can meet up someone in MD to ride to Leesburg. - Kevin KO ZX6 In a message dated 6/17/99 7:54:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ges6@XXXXXX writes: << Subj: weekend ride Date: 6/17/99 7:54:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: ges6@XXXXXX (Greg Sachs) Sender: gsachs@- (Greg Sachs) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I'm game for sat. Also, is anyone intending to meet me in leesburg on sunday morning to head to summit? Just a question of how rigidly I keep the 8:30 I said. Drop me a line if you'll be at the (american?) diner on 7 as you enter leesburg from the east. Greg >> From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 19 11:06:37 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA27497 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-80-38.s38.as5.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.80.38]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA19418; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:06:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002901beba65$6f78bf00$2650accf@95> From: "D. Thompson" To: , "Brian N" References: <001701beb9f6$bf540300$5e4eaccf@brn626> Subject: Re: Summit Point-Sunday Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:07:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Brian, (and anyone who wants to join us) Chris Weaver is going to meet me here in Warrenton at Blalock's Cycle on Sunday a.m. at 8:30 and then we are taking the FUN ROUTE to Summit. You, and anyone else, are welcome to join us. Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 From: Brian N To: Greg Sachs ; Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 9:55 PM Subject: Re: Summit Point-Sunday > Hey Greg, I plan on going to the Point on Sunday also. Are you still meeting > in Leesburg at 8:30? > If not I will see you all there. > Thanks, Brian N 96 Yamaha FZR600 > > From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 19 11:44:13 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA28055 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:44:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-80-38.s38.as5.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.80.38]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA26823; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:44:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <02fd01beba6a$b0288da0$2650accf@95> From: "D. Thompson" To: , References: <4346eda5.249d1136@aol.com> Subject: Re: Summit Point-Sunday Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:44:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Kevin, (and listers heading for Summit on Sunday) Warrenton is about 30 min. West and 15 minutes south of D.C. (66 West, to rt 29 South into Warrenton Blalock's in on the left) You are welcome to meet us, but it is a lot closer for you to go to the diner on Rt. 7 in Leesburg. We could try to get the two groups to meet up, but where we would meet is only about 5 or 6 miles form Summit Pt. Our route will go west first and then mostly north/northwest until we get to Rt. 7. The group from Leesburg will be going mostly west on or about Rt. 7 until the turn for Summit off of Rt. 7. If anyone wants to meet at the new Quick Stop(?) on Rt. 7 just before the turn to Summit, we will probably be getting there about 9:30 a.m. Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 ----- Original Message ----- > Were is Warrenton? Virginia? Can you give me directions from MD (Bowie) or > from the Beltway. I was going to meet at the diner on Rt 7 in Leesburg but > if this is closer I may meet you guys. Any chance the diner group and the > Blalock group may meet up? > > Thanks. > > - Kevin > From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 19 13:06:38 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA29413 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 13:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.42]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 12:51:45 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: Anyone going to Budds Creek this weekend? Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 12:56:05 -0400 Message-ID: <000001beba74$9ee47ea0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <3dfc72a6.249baf91@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Might attend. It's about four miles from my dad's house, so it's not really out of the way. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 19 17:37:03 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03578 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 17:37:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-239-20.s274.tnt2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.239.20]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id RAA11289; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 17:36:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 99 17:23:24 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: Re: weekend ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, OsbornKev@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Sorry about the delayed response, I just got back from riding all day. Very nice, scouting the July 3rd ride. At this point a little more straight than I'd like, but I'll work on that. Took one road that would have been great(poes Road, between 211 and 522) if it had been paved. Was marked as paved, but wasn't. 8 miles of dirt wasn't called for, oh well. Everything else looked pretty good. Kevin: Directions to the diner are a little hard for me, due to my unfamiliarity with the area Using Mapquest, I get: :Go South on SR-3 to US-50. 2.5 miles 2:Go West on US-50 to I-95 NORTH. 8.3 miles 3:Go North on I-95 NORTH to I-495 EAST (Exit 27). 8.4 miles 4:Go East on I-495 EAST to Virginia. 15.9 miles 5:Go South on I-495 SOUTH to DULLES ACCESS RD (Exit 12B). 2.7 miles 6:Go West on DULLES ACCESS RD to LEESBURG PIKE. 2.0 miles 7:Go Northwest on LEESBURG PIKE to SR-7. 13.5 miles 8:Go Northwest on SR-7. 8.8 miles Stay on 7 into town, don't take the bypass. You'll cross the bypass, and enter a commercial strip. Second or third light on the left there is a large diner called ( I think) the American Diner. Can't miss it, I think. As to time, I don't really care, but I think others are already planning on the 8:30 meeting. I wouldn't expect us to leave until 8:45 or so, maybe a bit later. I just used it as a convenient parking lot to meet at. Should you miss us, continue on 7 through leesburg, past Berryville, Va Shortly after Berryville, right turn on Route 632 632->the T intersection, then Right onto Route 761 Right turn at T, then go 300 yards and entrance on right. greg --- On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:07:09 EDT OsbornKev@XXXXXX wrote: >I definitely would like to meet up with some others to ride to Summit Point >this Sunday. Is the official meeting place this diner in Leesburg on Rt. 7? >If so please e-mail specific directions as I will be coming from MD >(specifically Bowie). Also in regard to that, a departure time that is a >little later than 8:30 would be better given the 1 hour commute or more. > >Also, an MD riders going to meet there please let me know and we can meet up >someone in MD to ride to Leesburg. > > - Kevin > >KO ZX6 > >In a message dated 6/17/99 7:54:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ges6@XXXXXX >writes: > ><< Subj: weekend ride > Date: 6/17/99 7:54:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time > From: ges6@XXXXXX (Greg Sachs) > Sender: gsachs@- (Greg Sachs) > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > I'm game for sat. > Also, is anyone intending to meet me in leesburg on sunday morning to > head to summit? Just a question of how rigidly I keep the 8:30 I said. > Drop me a line if you'll be at the (american?) diner on 7 as you enter > leesburg from the east. > Greg > > >> > -----------------End of Original Message----------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/19/99 HSTA/AMA 5:23:24 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 19 23:16:41 1999 Return-Path: fwegerich@XXXXXX Received: from falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA08849 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 23:16:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earthlink.net (ip137.leesburg4.va.pub-ip.psi.net [38.30.171.137]) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03288; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 20:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <376C5D9C.FE37C847@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 23:18:52 -0400 From: Frank Wegerich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Sachs CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, OsbornKev@XXXXXX Subject: Re: weekend ride References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am up to a nice ride as well. I'll be at the Dinner and ride up to the summit, however I don't wont to stay there for to long and ride a little more before heading back. I want to be back at Leesburg at around 12.30 (-: See you at the Dinner ..... Frank. BMW1100RT Greg Sachs wrote: > Sorry about the delayed response, I just got back from riding all day. > Very nice, scouting the July 3rd ride. At this point a little more > straight than I'd like, but I'll work on that. Took one road that would > have been great(poes Road, between 211 and 522) if it had been paved. > Was marked as paved, but wasn't. 8 miles of dirt wasn't called for, oh > well. Everything else looked pretty good. > Kevin: Directions to the diner are a little hard for me, due to my > unfamiliarity with the area Using Mapquest, I get: > :Go South on SR-3 to US-50. 2.5 miles > 2:Go West on US-50 to I-95 NORTH. 8.3 miles > 3:Go North on I-95 NORTH to I-495 EAST (Exit 27). 8.4 miles > 4:Go East on I-495 EAST to Virginia. 15.9 miles > 5:Go South on I-495 SOUTH to DULLES ACCESS RD (Exit 12B). 2.7 miles > 6:Go West on DULLES ACCESS RD to LEESBURG PIKE. 2.0 miles > 7:Go Northwest on LEESBURG PIKE to SR-7. 13.5 miles > 8:Go Northwest on SR-7. 8.8 miles > Stay on 7 into town, don't take the bypass. You'll cross the bypass, and > enter a commercial strip. Second or third light on the left there is a > large diner called ( I think) the American Diner. Can't miss it, I > think. As to time, I don't really care, but I think others are already > planning on the 8:30 meeting. I wouldn't expect us to leave until 8:45 > or so, maybe a bit later. I just used it as a convenient parking lot to > meet at. Should you miss us, continue on 7 through leesburg, past > Berryville, Va > Shortly after Berryville, right turn on Route 632 > 632->the T intersection, then Right onto Route 761 > Right turn at T, then go 300 yards and entrance on right. > greg > --- On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:07:09 EDT OsbornKev@XXXXXX wrote: > > >I definitely would like to meet up with some others to ride to Summit > Point > >this Sunday. Is the official meeting place this diner in Leesburg on > Rt. 7? > >If so please e-mail specific directions as I will be coming from MD > >(specifically Bowie). Also in regard to that, a departure time that is > a > >little later than 8:30 would be better given the 1 hour commute or more. > > > >Also, an MD riders going to meet there please let me know and we can > meet up > >someone in MD to ride to Leesburg. > > > > - Kevin > > > >KO ZX6 > > > >In a message dated 6/17/99 7:54:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > ges6@XXXXXX > >writes: > > > ><< Subj: weekend ride > > Date: 6/17/99 7:54:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time > > From: ges6@XXXXXX (Greg Sachs) > > Sender: gsachs@- (Greg Sachs) > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > > I'm game for sat. > > Also, is anyone intending to meet me in leesburg on sunday morning to > > head to summit? Just a question of how rigidly I keep the 8:30 I said. > > > Drop me a line if you'll be at the (american?) diner on 7 as you enter > > leesburg from the east. > > Greg > > > > >> > > > > -----------------End of Original Message----------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer > ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX > 6/19/99 HSTA/AMA 5:23:24 PM > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 20 07:03:13 1999 Return-Path: coolshane@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16741 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hopkinsbr.navsea.navy.mil ([12.68.65.44]) by mtiwmhc07.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990620110230.QJNY2409@XXXXXX> for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:02:30 +0000 Reply-To: From: "Bret Hopkins" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Summer Riding and Summit Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 06:57:19 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bebb0b$ab8e0bc0$2c41440c@hopkinsbr.navsea.navy.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I rode to Summit Saturday AM and watched the great racing until 6:15. It was good to meet a few of the people on the list. My thanks to Jay for talking me through some of the racing details; I had never been to an MC race before. There were two things that got my attention; 1) the speed at which those guys can carry down the front stretch into turn one and approaching the Carousel into turn five and 2) how many 'get-offs' there were. Before I left the house my wife wished me a good ride, fun day, and hoped that I would not see anyone crash. I agreed and told her that I thought crashing was pretty rare, but I was wrong. Those guys go for it on powerful bikes and some times they pay a price. Great competitive racing. I would go again. A warning: Watch for summer road repair using tar and gravel. The stuff looks like light gray and is very slick. My worst fear when riding is gravel, and for good reason. The back roads from Fairfax, VA to Summit were in decent shape until I got on Blueridge Mountain Road that connects Rte 50 and Rte 7. The summer road repair crews had done their best to hide the 'tar with gravel over top' traps without warning. Man, I nearly lost it twice before I realized what the light gray patches were. The first time the bike got a little loose in a left hander. The second time in that nice downhill right hander, I was all over the place and ended up standing the bike up and overshooting about a foot into the on-coming lane; no car approaching. There were no signs of loose gravel or unmarked pavement in the direction of 50 to 7. But on the way home, 7 to 50, there were signs at the beginning of Mountain Road. Good to me some of you folks. And for those of you who race, thanks for the action. Bret From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 20 07:57:54 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17545 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:57:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-77-103.s40.as2.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.77.103]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA15013 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 07:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701bebb14$bed199a0$674daccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Rain, Rain go away Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 08:01:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Woke up this morning with leg cramps and rain. I can deal with cramp but the rain sucks(need it but not on the weekend!) I guess I'll skip Summit today. I should have gone yesterday. Why can't meteorologists predict weather at least one day in advance? I guess if it stops raining, I'll dry the bike off and cover it.(should have last night but no one prdicted rain!) See ya all soon, Brian N Ashburn, VA 96 Yamaha FZR600 From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 20 11:32:48 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20644 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:32:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA10242 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:32:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.wch.adelphia.net (alpha.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA04851 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:32:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gforeman (surf182.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.182]) by alpha.wch.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA13397 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:32:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary Foreman" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Summit Point Pictures from Saturday Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 11:32:03 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bebb32$0c134160$1406030a@gforeman.wch.adelphia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 I have posted some pictures in the DC Riders Photo Gallery at http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/dcareariders if anyone is interested. Gary W. Foreman EMAIL: gforeman@XXXXXX WEB: http://www.fj1100.com '99-TL1000R | '88-KX250 | '85-FJ1100 From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 20 13:54:26 1999 Return-Path: rdrdr@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23459 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:54:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2j6q4 (216-164-224-72.s72.tnt6.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.224.72]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA25929 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <011e01bebb5f$10da9400$acee7ad1@m2j6q4> From: "rdrdr" To: Subject: I'm back and already leaving.... Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 13:54:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011B_01BEBB24.6356C400" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01BEBB24.6356C400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So I'm back from my trip. Got the rear axle for my DR650, it is = functional and in great shape (thanks again for all those who sent their = advice). NOW - I'm heading out to escort The Big Ride (fund raiser for the fight = against lung cancer) and need to be in Sandusky, OH wednesday morning. =20 I want to leave monday evening to put some miles on and make the trip = easier thereafter - and hopefully have enough time to ride some = backroads instead of just highways all the time. Anybody familiar with that area can recommend alternate roots ? The maps show that the best cage roads would be taking 76 to 80 to = OH250. Is 250 worth taking from its start point just across the W. Va. border ? Thanks to all. =20 Niv DR650 DC ------=_NextPart_000_011B_01BEBB24.6356C400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So I'm back from my trip. Got the rear axle for my = DR650, it=20 is functional and in great shape (thanks again for all those who sent = their=20 advice).
 
NOW - I'm heading out to escort The Big Ride (fund = raiser for=20 the fight against lung cancer) and need to be in Sandusky, OH wednesday=20 morning. 
I want to leave monday evening to put some miles on = and make=20 the trip easier thereafter - and hopefully have enough time to ride some = backroads instead of just highways all the time.
 
Anybody familiar with that area can recommend = alternate roots=20 ?
 
The maps show that the best cage = roads would be=20 taking 76 to 80 to OH250.
Is 250 worth = taking from its=20 start point just across the W. Va. border ?
 
Thanks to all. 
 
Niv
DR650
DC
 
------=_NextPart_000_011B_01BEBB24.6356C400-- From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 20 17:10:49 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA26418 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-204-171.s552.tnt4.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.204.171]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id RAA21874 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 99 17:07:47 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: Re: weekend ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Dunno about everyone else, but I decided discretion was the better part of valor today-I got about 5 miles down the road and ran into heavy rain, and decided that wasn't a good way to start the day at summit point. Still raining here. greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/20/99 HSTA/AMA 5:07:47 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 20 17:44:51 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.14]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA26955 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:44:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA28976 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:44:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv13-63.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.127) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma028930; Sun Jun 20 16:43:39 1999 Message-ID: <001201bebb65$d8e48ae0$7f72d9ce@w98sysrec> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Rain, What rain!!! ;) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:26:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Hate to say it guys but the rain never came over the western side of = the ridge, and summit point has been high and dry all day long.... Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 20 19:23:05 1999 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA28650 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:23:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net [208.220.25.211] by tidalwave.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A80D4B5501E8; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:23:57 -0400 Message-ID: <376D77DC.DD4D0319@tidalwave.net> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:23:08 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Back from Laconia....pffft! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all, Tracy and I rolled back into the driveway just after midnight last night. Took the "scenic" route down I-95 from Boston through NYC, never ran that part of the interstate before. With any luck, we never will again. :) Laconia was a big bust as far as we were concerned. Too many straight-pipe-v-twins deafened us, and after strolling along checking out vendor after vendor selling the same tired old t-shirt-and-bandana crap, we were really disappointed with the whole scene. I thought there would be much more. Oh well. I guess next year we check out Americade. And as for New Hampshire, well, the scenery was nice. The roads? Well, they could have used a little, ok, a LOT of work. Even the vaunted Kancamagus (scank-a-mongoose?) highway was in pretty sad shape. I was so surprised that NH had such wonderful interstate highways and such crappy backroads. Only Pennsylvania and Michigan rank worse in my experience. Blech. So anyway, what did I miss while I was gone? :) -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth 1998 Concours - His - BugSlayer II - VA Plate: BGSLYR 1999 Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi (Knee-High) "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 20 21:51:30 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00935 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:51:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-210.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.210]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA28432 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:51:26 -0400 Message-ID: <04ed01bebb88$6f482ce0$38a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: Back from Laconia....pffft! Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:50:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Dale and Tracy -- If not seen already, the New York Times today had a not-too-complimentary piece on the Laconia Bike Rally. "The Taming of a Rally Rankles the Bikers" http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/bikers-breast-ban.html (may require simple registration). The taming is probably downgrading the entire flavor of the event. Sorry your trip a bummer. Summit races today apparently a dry respite from this area's moistness. Will be looking forward to DC-Cycles efforts, as I'm sure you are. Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> "Taming" - ? What means this? Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. -----Original Message----- From: Dale Horstman To: DC Cycles Date: Sunday, June 20, 1999 7:29 PM Subject: Back from Laconia....pffft! >Hey all, > >Tracy and I rolled back into the driveway just after midnight >last night. Took the "scenic" route down I-95 from Boston >through NYC, never ran that part of the interstate before. >With any luck, we never will again. :) > >Laconia was a big bust as far as we were concerned. Too many >straight-pipe-v-twins deafened us, and after strolling along >checking out vendor after vendor selling the same tired old >t-shirt-and-bandana crap, we were really disappointed with the >whole scene. I thought there would be much more. Oh well. >I guess next year we check out Americade. > >And as for New Hampshire, well, the scenery was nice. The >roads? Well, they could have used a little, ok, a LOT of work. >Even the vaunted Kancamagus (scank-a-mongoose?) highway was in >pretty sad shape. I was so surprised that NH had such wonderful >interstate highways and such crappy backroads. Only Pennsylvania >and Michigan rank worse in my experience. Blech. > >So anyway, what did I miss while I was gone? :) > >-- >Dale Horstman (The Horkster) >horkster@XXXXXX >Dale City, VA, USA, Earth > >1998 Concours - His - BugSlayer II - VA Plate: BGSLYR >1999 Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi (Knee-High) > >"I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet >sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." > - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" > From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 20 23:11:03 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02117 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:11:01 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (3937) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id nYMWa10677; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:09:56 EDT Subject: Re: Pocono Cycle Festival To: brn626@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 6/18/1999 10:02:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, brn626@XXXXXX writes: << Has anyone every got to Pocono Raceway? I just requested a brochure on the Pocono Cycle Festival, Aug 27-29. Its run by the FormulaUSA. The ad in SportRider shows a number of races, a riding school and the Gary Rothwell stunt show. I also heard they are also running the Aprilia 250 challenge that weekend. I plan on going and as soon as I get more info, I will post it. Thanks Brian N, 96 Yamaha FZR600 PS, Glad neither you or the bike were hurt to bad. >> Been there. Done That. Totaled bike. Never going back. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 20 23:16:41 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02260 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:16:40 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (3937) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7JLCa21866; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:14:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <931157df.249f0831@aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:14:57 EDT Subject: Re: Pocono Cycle Festival To: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 6/19/1999 12:26:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, fzr_mofo@XXXXXX writes: << Let's just say I left with 2 crashed bikes and riders in my pickup and my bike was at home. 8^O >> Rider number one and bike checking in. Not planning on going this year. Unless of course Jon wants to follow in the truck again. I'd just feel a little freaked riding past the scene of the crime. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 00:33:31 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03631 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:33:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX (14393) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2NZZa01253; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3a9ebb23.249f1a42@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:32:02 EDT Subject: Brake Pads To: cbr@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Arlight gang(s); here's the $20,000 question. What brand/type of brake pads should I buy when it comes time? I'm about to do my first full maint. on the CBR soon, ('93 1000F), and would like a little feedback. I tend to ride a very brisk pace and use just about all of my tire. I do have the linked braking system as well. What kinds of experiences have you all had with the different pads that are out there. I realize that this is a highly subjective matter, but all opinions are welcome. Thanks! -Sean Jordan '93 CBR1000F From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 08:03:44 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA11831 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 21 Jun 1999 15:03:54 UT Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 8:02 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Eternity23@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:Brake Pads Message-ID: <19990621080307616-ea65ca6@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Go with OEM Honda pads if you can get them around here. They last the longest, they work the best without tearing up rotors, and they don't make a huge mess from brake dust like some of the others. You will pay more for them but "you get what you pay for" comes to mind with this subject. Order them mail-order to save some bucks. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Brake Pads Author: Eternity23@XXXXXX Date: 6/21/99 12:32 AM Arlight gang(s); here's the $20,000 question. What brand/type of brake pads should I buy when it comes time? I'm about to do my first full maint. on the CBR soon, ('93 1000F), and would like a little feedback. I tend to ride a very brisk pace and use just about all of my tire. I do have the linked braking system as well. What kinds of experiences have you all had with the different pads that are out there. I realize that this is a highly subjective matter, but all opinions are welcome. Thanks! -Sean Jordan '93 CBR1000F From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 08:20:43 1999 Return-Path: matte@XXXXXX Received: from mail.savvis.net (mail.savvis.net [209.83.194.44]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA12786 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:20:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Nova2.sales.savvis.net ([216.88.32.104]) by mail.savvis.net (8.8.8/Savvis_V0.4) with SMTP id HAA05187 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:20:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:18:11 -0400 Message-ID: <01BEBBBE.9A1B18C0.matte@savvis.net> From: "Matthew R. Elliott" Reply-To: "matte@XXXXXX" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: FS: 1995 Nighthawk 750 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:18:10 -0400 Organization: Savvis Communications X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unfortunately it's come time to sell the Nighthawk, too many toys at this time! I'll get another bike later, probably a VMAX when the time is right, and definitely another Nighthawk as the everyday bike! But for now, it's just sitting in the garage not being used much. Here are the details: 1995 Black Nighthawk 750 Miles: 5400 Condition: Like Brand New; covered inside garage, all maintenance records, never dropped, never seen rain (fair weather biker), etc. Bought brand new in Feb 1997, this bike is seriously like brand new, still. I've babied it so much it's sick! Price: $4200 OBO. Here's the thing, I'll have some replies scoffing at the price, but I don't really *need* to sell it right now (thankfully) If anyone knows of anyone else who is interested in a great bike, like new but wanting to save a couple of grand on a new one, point them my way. They'll get a great bike at a good price. If I have no takers, then I'll have to 'make' time to ride it, get my priorities straight, etc. :-) I'm in Herndon, email me (matte@XXXXXX) or call 713-9518 if you're interested. Thanks, Matt From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 08:47:58 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA13226 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA14134 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:47:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gateway.lcsa.org (root@XXXXXX [204.188.41.222] (may be forged)) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA17412 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lcsa3 ([192.168.0.23]) by gateway.lcsa.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA11979 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:50:29 -0400 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Summit Point Photos Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:48:00 -0400 Message-ID: <000101bebbe4$4ba69ae0$1700a8c0@loudoun.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Okay, I have placed pictures or links to pictures from this weekend at Summit Point. You can look via the Yahoo DC Riders Club page or go to the link below: http://home.adelphia.net/~gforeman/summit_point/summit_point.htm These images are without royalty. Feel free to use as you wish. Gary W. Foreman Email: fj1100@XXXXXX Web: http://www.fj1100.com '99 TL1000R | '88 KX250 | '85 FJ1100 He who dies with the most toys...dies Happy! From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 09:24:23 1999 Return-Path: jay.stpeter@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13841 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10w40w-0004Je-00; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:21:30 -0400 Received: from jay (ravinc.clark.net [168.143.30.5]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA07607; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:24:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jay St. Peter" To: , , Subject: Re[2]: Summit Point Schedule Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:23:14 -0400 Message-ID: <000201bebbe9$37922010$afc809c0@jay> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In the 207GP race tires, Dunlop only makes a 170 and 180 rear tire. I run the 170 on my F2 with no averse effects. It fits fine, and sticks like a champ. The 207s have a very triangular profile, so the turn in is excellent. I was offered two set of 207 take-offs this weekend for $50 a tire. They were in pretty good condition, but would probably only last me a race weekend. Typically, the race tires are very worn on the edges but the tread down the center is almost new. The GP compound is very sticky, but I suspect that it probably lasts about 1/2 as long as the street compound 207s (which are available in a 160). Still, if you go to the track, you should be able to get some race take-offs that weren't tortured too bad for a cheap price. They should last quite a while on the street. Jay St. Peter Tom Zell Wrote: FYI: The F2 rim can only handle properly a 160/60ZR17.... the 170 is too wide for the 4.5" wheel and will adversely effect handling. To run the 170 I would recommend at least an F3 wheel (5.0" width). I know this because I have run the 170 on my '86 VFR (with F2 wheels and suspension) and found nothing but ill-fated handling until I went with the 160... much better AND predictable handling. I'm sure that you'll be able to find some 160/60-17 take-offs at the track without a problem. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 09:28:22 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA13928 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:28:20 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA29547; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:29:06 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa28022; Mon, 21 Jun 99 09:27:58 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com ([10.9.16.181]) by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FDO00NTQITY1I@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256797.0049C7BC ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:25:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:25:41 -0400 Subject: Congrats to all the DC-Cycles racers! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256797.0049CD9F.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Congratulations to all the dc-cycles racers for a great weekend at Summit Point! Special mention goes to Collin, who won all three of the races he entered on Sunday. Nice work, especially after some fierce battles for the lead. His efforts yielded several 1:21 lap times during the day also. Danny and I met up in the morning at Battley Cycles in Warrenton, but thanks to the rain we didn't get a very early start. Eventually we just decided to grin and bear it. It rained all the way up to Front Royal, but then tailed off. Disappointing ride due to the weather, but the racing action at the Point was great. Thanks to everyone for putting up with me hanging around the pits for most of the day. I learned a lot and had a great time. Chris Weaver '98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 09:32:53 1999 Return-Path: MJordan666@XXXXXX Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA14024 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:32:52 -0400 (EDT) From: MJordan666@XXXXXX Received: from MJordan666@XXXXXX (14397) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2DCDa21389 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:30:37 EDT Subject: Re: Back from Laconia....pffft! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Hi guys - we should have coordinated a bit. I went up to Lake George for the last bit of Americade and did a quick pass through Laconia the next week - my sentiments follow yours pretty closely. I am a bit bummed that I missed the classic race on the old course on Sunday, though (found out about it when reading the pamphlet on the following Tuesday) Took a side trip up Mt. Washington and cruised the Maine coast (boyhood home, and all that) a bit before coming back. The main roads are BAD - a large pothole ate another front wheel and my scooter is waiting for parts as I write this (it's rideable, but at a reduced pace). I hit a lot of very nice roads though, Vermont Route 9 (Brattleboro to Bennington) was just about worth the trip. Was gone about a week and put another 2K miles on the scooter - a very relaxed ride. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 09:36:37 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA14103 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 21 Jun 1999 16:36:49 UT Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 9:35 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[3]: Summit Point Schedule Message-ID: <1999062109360880-efb8356@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yeah... I've heard from someone in the know that those 207 GP will wheelie a hi-horsepower bike in the rain. Now that's sticky! Tom '86 VFR750 <--- that's happy with 207 streets ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re[2]: Summit Point Schedule Author: jay.stpeter@XXXXXX (Jay St. Peter) Date: 6/21/99 9:23 AM In the 207GP race tires, it fits fine, and sticks like a champ. Jay St. Peter From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 09:37:25 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA14113 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:37:23 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA13175; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:37:56 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma011791; Mon, 21 Jun 99 09:37:00 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com ([10.9.16.181]) by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FDO002AEJ8YJU@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256797.004A9EAF ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:35:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:33:50 -0400 Subject: RE: travel advice sought (no moto content) To: Kirk Roy Cc: DC-Cycles Mailing List Message-id: <85256797.004AA15F.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Just run the southwest freeway (past the 395 exit) until it ends into Penn Ave. Stay in the left lane and as soon as you merge onto Penn Ave, get in the left lane and turn onto 295 N. Simple ... unless there is traffic. --chris To: DC-Cycles Mailing List cc: From: Kirk Roy Date: 06/18/99 01:37:36 PM GMT Subject: RE: travel advice sought (no moto content) On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM wrote: > If he's in Arlington, have him get on I-395 to South Capitol to I-295 > to the BW parkway. Of course, you can't just go from 395 to 295. You've got to use either Howard Rd or the Suitland Pkwy exit to get turned around. Kirk ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 09:45:50 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA14261 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A206EFE0188; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:45:42 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990621091511.012ec5a0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:25:17 -0400 To: DC Cycles From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Back from Laconia....pffft! In-Reply-To: <376D77DC.DD4D0319@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:23 PM 6/20/99 , Dale Horstman wrote: >Laconia was a big bust as far as we were concerned. Too many >straight-pipe-v-twins deafened us, and after strolling along >checking out vendor after vendor selling the same tired old >t-shirt-and-bandana crap, we were really disappointed with the >whole scene. I thought there would be much more. Oh well. >I guess next year we check out Americade. The year I went, I enjoyed Laconia for seeing those highly-individualistic biker types who dress like all the other highly-individualistic biker types. Just crowd watching was enjoyable - the police kept everyone on the sidewalks so the crowding would slow people down. I didn't enjoy the drunk on the Harley who almost ran into me. The "Wall of Death" was very impressive. They get your attention with the typical loud Harley, but then ride old clapped-out dirt bikes around the vertical wall of an upright cylinder. Most impressive was holding out a dollar bill that the rider would snatch out of your hand as he went by, as the wall (which you're standing at the top of) moves back and forth 6 inches. >And as for New Hampshire, well, the scenery was nice. The >roads? Well, they could have used a little, ok, a LOT of work. >Even the vaunted Kancamagus (scank-a-mongoose?) highway was in >pretty sad shape. I never saw what was so great about that highway - when I was there it was all torn up, and the view was no better than anywhere else. I did enjoy the scenery, and cruising the "notches" (gaps) in the mountains. I went up to the notch were Nathaniel Hawthorne set a story - a family ran out of their house during a rockslide, were killed by the slide, and the house survived because the rockslide went around it. I also went by to see the "Old Man in the Mountain" (rock formation), subject of another Hawthorne story. Two bikers couldn't understand me when I said "Where y'all from?" ... then I noticed their Quebec license plates - culture shock! Next time, be sure to go to Loudon - site of the races. For me, the best was watching the historic races, on the bleachers, listening to the oldtimers near me give a running commentary. Most impressive was a guy racing an old Indian - he braked hard enough to lift the rear tire off the ground, while he had his left hand off the handlebar and on the shifter to downshift for the corner. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 09:46:33 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.114]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA14271 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:46:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by wodc7mr0.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQguol11444; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:46:26 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256797.004C310C ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:52:12 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256797.004C2F7A.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:37:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Congrats to all the DC-Cycles racers! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline WAY TO GO, COLLIN! Woo hoo!!! Victory party (?) ; ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX on 06/21/99 09:25:41 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Congrats to all the DC-Cycles racers! Congratulations to all the dc-cycles racers for a great weekend at Summit Point! Special mention goes to Collin, who won all three of the races he entered on Sunday. Nice work, especially after some fierce battles for the lead. His efforts yielded several 1:21 lap times during the day also. Danny and I met up in the morning at Battley Cycles in Warrenton, but thanks to the rain we didn't get a very early start. Eventually we just decided to grin and bear it. It rained all the way up to Front Royal, but then tailed off. Disappointing ride due to the weather, but the racing action at the Point was great. Thanks to everyone for putting up with me hanging around the pits for most of the day. I learned a lot and had a great time. Chris Weaver '98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 10:02:53 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14524 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:02:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 06:56:53 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Congrats to all the DC-Cycles racers! Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 06:52:46 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Aww.. sheesh, those guys can't ride worth sh%t... :P The REAL star went through Surgery on Thursday and has been sitting the races out due to injury.. *grin* Ok, so Collin can kick my ass while riding backwards on a decade old bike.. Jeff might actually have to be facing forwards.. and Jay needs a current modle bike. And for Brian - he needs more time on the track, and Joe.. well.. Joe, you're a Racing god like me... (god being defined as one who's been warming the bench for the most part due to unforseen issues - mostly medical related). Anyway.. I guess the people who were on the track do deserve a tiny bit of recognition.. and Collin.. it's ABOUT DAMN TIME! sheesh... Anyway.. I'm on meds, so this message may not flow well.. and I'm going cause it hurts to type..:P Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 10:06:18 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14625 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:06:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (2616) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2RVPa13277 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:04:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4c079b21.249fa059@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:04:09 EDT Subject: Re: Congrats to all the DC-Cycles racers! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Good going Collin. By the way, did anybody pick-up my orange race-stand, I was so distraught after my piston melt-down that that I forgot it. Damage report is not as bad as it could have been. Right piston, cylinder and rod are fine and there is no case damage. Need to have the crank rebuilt, need a new left rod and new left cylinder, should be ready to race in 2-3 weeks. I will use much bigger main jets though.LOL Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 10:09:41 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14640 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 21 Jun 1999 17:09:52 UT Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:07 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Excuse the non-moto content but... Message-ID: <19990621100908157-f19ba03@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What the hell is wrong with the world?? Read on... The Robots Are Coming! This week's Time Magazine reports on a brand new innovation in the world of robotics. AIBO, Sony's latest gadget, is a robotic dog. It is described as "utterly useless and utterly cute." Over two thousand were made and swiped up via online sales within a half-hour, despite the $2,000 price tag. For dedicated technophiles, however, it is reportedly worth it. He has detachable limbs with chips in each of them, a camera in his nose, and a pause button on his chest for when you're on vacation. He chases after hot pink balls, walks on all fours, wags his tail, waves his paw, and can get up from a lying position. He even expresses emotion - when his hot pink ball is just out of his reach, he freaks out and if you take it from him, he will give you an indignant gruff. Forget about the Joneses, with AIBO, you can keep up with the Jetsons. Tom <--- happy with a REAL dogs '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 10:31:10 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15113 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:31:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10689 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:31:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:31:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: Excuse the non-moto content but... In-Reply-To: <19990621100908157-f19ba03@fanniemaefoundation.org> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Tom Zell wrote: > AIBO, Sony's latest gadget, is a robotic dog. Woo hoo, it's about time! :) I hope this'll work out as well as my mechanical horses have! Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 10:31:25 1999 Return-Path: bernescut@XXXXXX Received: from raphael.catholic.org (root@XXXXXX [207.95.245.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15116 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:31:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ACRE1.ncea.org ([12.4.21.69]) by raphael.catholic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA12905 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:31:19 -0700 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:26:35 -0400 Message-ID: <01BEBBD0.89B22DE0.bernescut@ncea.org> From: Cedric Bernescut Reply-To: "bernescut@XXXXXX" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Brake Pads Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:26:33 -0400 Organization: NCEA X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Diitto for me. I stuck Galfer pads on my CBR simply to try something different and found them satisfactory at best. I'm going back to the stock pads next time. Cedric AMA 663626 CBR600F Annandale, VA "On the other hand, you have different fingers." -----Original Message----- From: Tom Zell [SMTP:TZell@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 8:02 AM To: Eternity23@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re:Brake Pads Go with OEM Honda pads if you can get them around here. They last the longest, they work the best without tearing up rotors, and they don't make a huge mess from brake dust like some of the others. You will pay more for them but "you get what you pay for" comes to mind with this subject. Order them mail-order to save some bucks. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Brake Pads Author: Eternity23@XXXXXX Date: 6/21/99 12:32 AM Arlight gang(s); here's the $20,000 question. What brand/type of brake pads should I buy when it comes time? I'm about to do my first full maint. on the CBR soon, ('93 1000F), and would like a little feedback. I tend to ride a very brisk pace and use just about all of my tire. I do have the linked braking system as well. What kinds of experiences have you all had with the different pads that are out there. I realize that this is a highly subjective matter, but all opinions are welcome. Thanks! -Sean Jordan '93 CBR1000F From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 10:33:58 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15133 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:33:20 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:33:14 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:31:39 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, brn626@XXXXXX Subject: Pocono Cycle Festival -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Folks, Caught the Rothwell show at Brainerd last year. IMO, worth the price of admission alone. Simply full-goose loony. You'll wonder how many days he spent in the hospital before he perfected many of the stunts. And his wife is the bravest person you'll ever see--he does 100-yd stoppies with her laying on the tank, her head over the front fender. Far as getting sleep, what I've done at Brainerd in the middle of a camp full of addled wackos is simple--foam earplugs. Joe From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 10:37:05 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15213 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:37:03 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA10227; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:37:28 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma008456; Mon, 21 Jun 99 10:35:41 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FDO00CG7LYP1Y@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:37:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256797.004FFD93 ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:33:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:33:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Rain, Rain go away To: dc-cycles Message-id: <85256797.005003F9.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Yeah, yesterday's rain was kinda of a bummer. I rode back from Atlanta and about 80% of it was rain. Just don the rain gear and keep going. Actually the worst part was that the whole trip was NEVER above 63 deg. Rain and cold is faaar worse than rain :-) BTW, incase anyone is wondering, Deals's Gap is still there ... I personally tested out all 318 turns a few times on Friday. Overall impression? Great road, but over hyped. Although, the pavement was in excellent condition and the NASCAR type banking in the hairpins make for some fun times. :-) Other than that a fairly uneventful trip with too much slab. 15hrs down on Fri (including play time at DG and in the Smokeys) and 11 hrs of 80mph+ slab back on Sunday. Saturday was helping my little bro move into his new house. I think I am just slightly less sore than Linda! :-) (Sorry to hear about the mishap) --chris (been there, done that, got the shirt from the Crossroads of Time) To: dc-cycles cc: From: Brian N Date: 06/20/99 12:01:08 PM GMT Subject: Rain, Rain go away Woke up this morning with leg cramps and rain. I can deal with cramp but the rain sucks(need it but not on the weekend!) I guess I'll skip Summit today. I should have gone yesterday. Why can't meteorologists predict weather at least one day in advance? I guess if it stops raining, I'll dry the bike off and cover it.(should have last night but no one prdicted rain!) See ya all soon, Brian N Ashburn, VA 96 Yamaha FZR600 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 11:26:57 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA16332 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:26:19 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:26:17 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:24:09 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cbr@XXXXXX Subject: Brake Pads -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Have had good experience with both sbs and Ferodo. No difference as far as I'm concerned. And most likely, half the price of what your Honda dealer quotes you out of "The Bendover Book." What really made a difference was the steel lines--wouldn't have a sport bike without 'em. But I would imagine a "linker" has some rather bizarre plumbing goin' on . . . Joe '85 900 Ninja From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 11:37:49 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA16549 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:36:48 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:36:41 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:34:45 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Congrats to all the DC-Cycles racers! -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Brian writes: well.. Joe, you're a Racing god like me... (god being defined as one who's been warming the bench for the most part due to unforseen issues - mostly medical related). I thought you were referencing my status as Volcano god, har har, from all the smoke. Heal quick. Joe & Smokey ('79 RD) CCS#606 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 12:15:23 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17290 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:15:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990621161955.26391.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web308.yahoomail.com; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:19:55 PDT Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:19:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Rain and gloves To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My problem when it rains is if I take my gloves off for some reason, it's darn near impossible to put them back on. Between my wet hands and the liner, the thing won't go. Usually I wind up carrying a few pairs of rain gloves just so I can have another set to put on when the first refuses to go back on. Same happens if my hands sweat a lot in lined gloves. Anyone find a way to combat this problem? Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours 11th place, Capitol 1000 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton http://members.xoom.com/Nighthawk700/cycle.htm _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 13:28:52 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18569 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:28:50 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id NAA03491; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:29:38 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma002997; Mon, 21 Jun 99 13:28:34 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com ([10.9.16.181]) by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FDO001G1TZ04Z@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:30:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256797.005FD881 ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:26:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:26:31 -0400 Subject: Re: Rain and gloves To: "Louis F. Caplan" Cc: DC-Cycles Message-id: <85256797.005FD7C0.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I used a pair of rain glove covers on the way back from Atlanta yesterday. They are really big mitten type things and kept my hands nice and dry. You loose some dexterity with them, but your probably not riding that aggressively in a downpour anyhow. I picked them up at the Cycle world show and unfortunatrly can't remember who makes them. They worked well. --chris To: DC-Cycles cc: From: "Louis F. Caplan" Date: 06/21/99 04:19:55 PM GMT Subject: Rain and gloves My problem when it rains is if I take my gloves off for some reason, it's darn near impossible to put them back on. Between my wet hands and the liner, the thing won't go. Usually I wind up carrying a few pairs of rain gloves just so I can have another set to put on when the first refuses to go back on. Same happens if my hands sweat a lot in lined gloves. Anyone find a way to combat this problem? Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours 11th place, Capitol 1000 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton http://members.xoom.com/Nighthawk700/cycle.htm _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 13:48:38 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18958 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:48:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990621174850.24095.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [216.164.231.100] by web304.yahoomail.com; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:48:50 PDT Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:48:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Brake Pads -Reply To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I too will highly recommend SBS (Scandinavian Braking System). The bite hard, don't fade, and lasted as long as stockers. I tried EBC Green pads and they sucked. Wore out in nothing flat, and didn't slow the bike down very well either! Also with EBCgreen/blue/black pads, you have to watch out for their quality control...A couple of years ago, some of their poor selling "endurance" pads (blue) were mysteriously repainted green (sprint pads) and sold to some racers and others....they claimed honest mistake, and I'd give them a benefit of doubt, but the pads suck anyhow so I went to SBS ;-) Now the EBC HH Sintered pads, on the other hand, are top shelf stuff. I highly recommend them. HOWEVER, only use them if you have stock stainless steel rotors. Otherwise they will eat your rotors up. Lots of folks on the EX500 list found that out the hard way... Actually, for any of the sintered pads, it's best to use them with OEM stainless rotors. Collin (Still high from three race wins.. report to come sometime relatively soon.... gotta move to MI tonight though...) --- JOE NAGY wrote: > Have had good experience with both sbs and Ferodo. No difference as > far > as I'm concerned. === Collin T. 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 14:02:03 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA19228 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:01:12 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:01:09 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:58:54 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mobacc@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Back from Laconia....pffft! -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline -snip- (may require simple registration). AND relocating to the Times website, then clicking "Archives," then searching for "Laconia", then "Click here to purchase article." Don't think so. Joe (becoming more of a Web Curmudgeon every day) From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 14:06:19 1999 Return-Path: berman@XXXXXX Received: from min.net (root@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19339 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from min.net (berman@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by min.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28958; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:05:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Morris Berman To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX cc: "Louis F. Caplan" , DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Rain and gloves In-Reply-To: <85256797.005FD7C0.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use a pair of extra-extra-large (for men) latex dish washing gloves over my leather gloves. They work pretty well and store very small under my seast. -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams On Mon, 21 Jun 1999 christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > I used a pair of rain glove covers on the way back from Atlanta yesterday. > They are really big mitten type things and kept my hands nice and dry. You > loose some dexterity with them, but your probably not riding that > aggressively in a downpour anyhow. I picked them up at the Cycle world > show and unfortunatrly can't remember who makes them. They worked well. > > --chris > > To: DC-Cycles > cc: > From: "Louis F. Caplan" > Date: 06/21/99 04:19:55 PM GMT > Subject: Rain and gloves > > > > > > My problem when it rains is if I take my gloves off for some reason, it's > darn > near impossible to put them back on. Between my wet hands and the liner, > the > thing won't go. Usually I wind up carrying a few pairs of rain gloves just > so > I can have another set to put on when the first refuses to go back on. > Same > happens if my hands sweat a lot in lined gloves. Anyone find a way to > combat > this problem? > > Louis > > === > Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA > 1998 Kawasaki Concours 11th place, Capitol 1000 > "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton > http://members.xoom.com/Nighthawk700/cycle.htm > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 14:28:10 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19708 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:27:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: *profanity**explative**cursing* Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:27:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) and yet ANOTER month of my life is to be sacrificed to a cast. I can't deal with 'borrowing' from people anymore.. might someone here have a cheap piece of crap car they'd be willing to rent for a month? Or, how about sell.. I can afford a little bit... By little bit, I mean I have like $1000 available (unless there are offers to co-sign a loan so I can buy a real car.. or, even offer me a loan). As it is.. I'm scanning the ads looking for the cheapest running thing out there. this is tiring bullshit.. all because some asshole couldn't STOP and let me get his tag # or insurance info (the person that ran me down from behind and ran these long months ago)... argh... I'm not happy now. Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 16:55:14 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA22368 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-80-38.s38.as5.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.80.38]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA11072; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:54:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <05c301bebc28$7bb18da0$2650accf@95> From: "D. Thompson" To: , References: <85256797.0049CD9F.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Subject: Re: Congrats to all the DC-Cycles racers! Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:56:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Chris, it was good to meet you. Sorry the weather up and back(?) sucked, hopefully the next ride will be better. Breakfast was enjoyable. I apologize for kind of abandoning you, but when they asked me to help work the cornerwork, I thought it would be OK and new they could use the help. (plus I got my $20.00 entry fee back :) ) By the way is was Blalock Cycles (not Blattley) in Warrenton.;)they did give me a good deal on my VFR.... The racing was very enjoyable and the DC-Cycles guys seemed to do well, of course between bike pick-ups it was hard to keep up with the positions of everyone except Collin who was in front or close throughout the 3 races he was in (and in front at the END which is what really matters). I look forward to the races in July and the next group ride. Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 9:25 AM Subject: Congrats to all the DC-Cycles racers! > Congratulations to all the dc-cycles racers for a great weekend at Summit > Point! Special mention goes to Collin, who won all three of the races he > entered on Sunday. Nice work, especially after some fierce battles for the > lead. His efforts yielded several 1:21 lap times during the day also. > > Danny and I met up in the morning at Battley Cycles in Warrenton, but > thanks to the rain we didn't get a very early start. Eventually we just > decided to grin and bear it. It rained all the way up to Front Royal, but > then tailed off. Disappointing ride due to the weather, but the racing > action at the Point was great. Thanks to everyone for putting up with me > hanging around the pits for most of the day. I learned a lot and had a > great time. > > Chris Weaver > '98 VTR 1000 > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 19:06:35 1999 Return-Path: jmoran@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24783 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:06:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from loudoun.com (sterling-12.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with ESMTP id <0FDP0012U9IF3Q@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:06:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:14:26 -0400 From: Randy and Julie Moran Subject: Race Tires for Sale (Cheap) To: DC cycles list Reply-to: jmoran@XXXXXX Message-id: <376EC751.5512FDB2@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en I have one set of D207GPs and one set of D207 street compound. Front Size: 120/70 ZR17 Rear Size: 170/60 ZR17 Each have two race weekends on them, and have plenty of tread left, especially down the center. Still plenty of grip at reasonable speeds. $75 per pair or $100 takes both sets. Randy Moran WERA Novice #696 CCS AM #567 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 20:33:07 1999 Return-Path: jbroga@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA26216 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:33:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (sterling-41.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FDP001OADIN3Q@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:24:24 -0700 From: jambroga Subject: Looking for Roy Turner To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <005301bebc5e$bac9fd20$292fbccc@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 Sorry to send this to the whole list but I don't have Roy Turners address. I heard he knew someone looking for a VTR and I have a nice one for sale, so Roy if you are out there and still know someone looking, drop me a line. Thanks! Jonathan PS if anyone knows someone looking for a good starter racebike I am selling my EX500 for cheap. Its got a solid street motor and well sorted suspension. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 22:10:40 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web302.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.184]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA27919 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990622021252.6949.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.7.101] by web302.yahoomail.com; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:12:52 PDT Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:12:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Looking for Roy Turner To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Roy, He's looking for your buddy Kevin... I told Jonathan that he was in Coleman's the other day taking a look at a VTR, etc. Also, tell kevin thanks for the offer on the synchronizers (sp??) but I ran out of time getting things ready to race to stop by... Collin --- jambroga wrote: > Sorry to send this to the whole list but I don't have Roy Turners > address. I > heard he knew someone looking for a VTR and I have a nice one for > sale, === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Dixie Cycles Bell Helmets, and EBC Brakes _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 22:19:58 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28122 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:19:56 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (3703) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uHKMa23907; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:19:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8e7ee730.24a04ca3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:19:15 EDT Subject: Re: Excuse the non-moto content but... To: TZell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 6/21/1999 10:15:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, TZell@XXXXXX writes: << The Robots Are Coming! This week's Time Magazine reports on a brand new innovation in the world of robotics. AIBO, Sony's latest gadget, is a robotic dog. It is described as "utterly useless and utterly cute. >> I saw a story about it on the Sci-fi channel a few weeks ago. They just need to put fur on it and it might be cute. NOT!!!!! Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 22:23:36 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web302.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.184]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA28206 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:23:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990622022542.8813.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.7.101] by web302.yahoomail.com; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:25:42 PDT Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:25:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: headin out... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey all.... Penny, Connor, and I are heading out to Ann Arbor, Michigan in a bit. I'll be unsubscribing for a while until I get settled in up that direction, then I'll go on D-Mode.... It's been great riding with everyone and I'll msis spending half my work day on the puter talking helmet laws, snake oil, gguns, reptiles, and even motorcycles on occasion ;-) I'll still be coming to Summit Point for all the WERA events, and CCS too if I can swing it... I'll also be in the area for some of the longer school breaks, and you can sure bet I'll have a bike with me and want ot ride it!!! (beats staying with the inlaws the whole time ;-)) If anyone's in the SE corner of MI and needs a place to hang the helmet and rack out for the night, feel free to give us a shout.. this email addy will still be good, and our address *should* be 2489 Stone Rd, Ann Arbor, MI 48105....no phone number yet... Take care all.... Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Dixie Cycles Bell Helmets, and EBC Brakes _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 22:38:31 1999 Return-Path: lmeyer@XXXXXX Received: from mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28456 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mgfairfax.rr.com ([24.28.195.247]) by mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:32:56 -0400 Message-ID: <376EF7B1.11C53430@mgfairfax.rr.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:40:49 -0400 From: Larry Meyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles , Bandit List Subject: Corbin Humor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From a thread on keeping the passenger from sliding around on a new Corbin seat. >>>Vini, vidi, Velcro (I came, I saw, I stuck around). From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 22:43:26 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28536 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:43:25 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (3703) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rUPGa18877; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:38:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:38:41 EDT Subject: Re: headin out... To: gixer_racer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 6/21/1999 10:27:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gixer_racer@XXXXXX writes: << Hey all.... Penny, Connor, and I are heading out to Ann Arbor, Michigan in a bit. I'll be unsubscribing for a while until I get settled in up that direction, then I'll go on D-Mode.... >> Good luck with the move and keep in touch. I expect to hears lots of stories about Pepe kicking some unsuspecting posers butt. :-) Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 21 22:47:46 1999 Return-Path: smaclean@XXXXXX Received: from mail.rdc1.on.home.com (imail@XXXXXX [24.2.9.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28644 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:47:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cr879328-a ([24.112.75.245]) by mail.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19990622024725.FCQT12887.mail.rdc1.on.home.com@cr879328-a>; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:47:25 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Stephen W.A. MacLean" To: , "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: Corbin Humour Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:49:05 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01bebc59$cb1031e0$f54b7018@cr879328-a.wlfdle1.on.wave.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <376EF7B1.11C53430@mgfairfax.rr.com> Importance: Normal Larry : Very cute!. Just for the record, though, its Veni, not Vini. Best regards, Stephen. '98 Bandit GSF 1200S * Holeshot Vortex pipe, Stage II kit, timing advancer * Revalved GSXR-750 rear shock * Custom-built rear sets * Aftermarket cast-aluminum engine cases * Zero-Gravity windscreen, flush front turn signals and GSXR-750 mirrors * Progressive fork springs * Intellitronix oil temp gauge & digital clock Mississauga, Ontario, CANADA. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Meyer t Subject: Corbin Humor >>>Vini, vidi, Velcro (I came, I saw, I stuck around). From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 06:56:53 1999 Return-Path: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA07945 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:56:52 -0400 (EDT) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX (3959) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2ECGa07597 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <165e8f7a.24a0c5ba@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:55:54 EDT Subject: INSURANCE PROVIDER To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 I got a request from one of the BTMC (Blue Thunder MC) riders regarding insurance. Can you help her? Thanks, Lee RESPOND TO RUTHLEZZ@XXXXXX Date: 6/21/99 10:54:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: RUTHLEZZ To: LilBkrBabe hey babe ,, i'm looking for some insurance comp that would cover my 87 hurrican 1000 (libilaty) can you help me out From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 07:07:04 1999 Return-Path: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08175 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:07:03 -0400 (EDT) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX (3959) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2RQUa23907 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5d26cef8.24a0c834@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:06:28 EDT Subject: **INSURANCE PROVIDER** To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 RUTHLEZZ is a man... don't know why I changed his gender! Thanks, Lee From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 09:02:05 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10721 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA19794 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA12284 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:01:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flf960r1.ems.att.com ([135.71.244.37]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id IAA13654; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from njb140bh2.ems.att.com by flf960r1.ems.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/ATTEMS-1.4.1 sol2) id IAA20057; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by njb140bh2.ems.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:59:41 -0400 Message-ID: <9FE88F6AE3C1D211AE530000C0E871EEAA95DD@vae820po01.nova.att.com> From: "Carver, John M, BGM" To: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Brake Pads Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:59:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain I would see if Performance Friction makes brake pads for your model. IMO, they make the *best* brake pads for cages I have ever tried. I noticed on my car that they cause no rotor wear and have lasted now over 40k miles and have quite a bit of life left. Unfortunately, they don't have any pads available for my VFR800 since it's so new, but they may for yours. Their number is 800 521 8874. John From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 10:15:21 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12318 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:15:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:13:36 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:13:34 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:11:45 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Looking for Roy Turner -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Collin, I believe you spelled "synchronizers" correctly. Next question: anyone have experience with the Garmin GPSIII Plus? I'm looking at one in a catalog for 80 bucks. Been wanting a GPS but don't know a dang thing about 'em. Thanks, Joe (frequently lost) From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 10:21:14 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12399 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:20:26 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:20:22 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:18:35 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gixer_racer@XXXXXX Subject: headin out... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Collin, Via con Dios, bud. Don't forget to pick up a few cans of Deep Woods Off (green can, not orange) or Cutters Sportsman formula on your way up. I hear the skeeters and sand flies are fierce already. And don't believe any of that crap about Skin So Soft as a repellent--it don't work on northern vermin, don't ask how I know. Joe (ex-pat Minnesotan) From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 10:35:10 1999 Return-Path: bernescut@XXXXXX Received: from raphael.catholic.org (root@XXXXXX [207.95.245.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12648 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ACRE1.ncea.org ([12.4.21.69]) by raphael.catholic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA28524 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:35:00 -0700 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:30:06 -0400 Message-ID: <01BEBC9A.325884C0.bernescut@ncea.org> From: Cedric Bernescut Reply-To: "bernescut@XXXXXX" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: seat cover question Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:30:05 -0400 Organization: NCEA X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering if anyone can recommend a place to get a stock Honda seat recovered. My CBR's seat is starting to show signs of being parked outdoors and has multiple tears in it. The foam appears to be OK and I was going to see if its possible to replace just the vinyl cover. I would like to keep the stock appearance as much as possible. Has anyone tried Sargeants or similar type seat reconstruction? Thanks in advance for any info. Cedric AMA 663626 CBR600F Annandale, VA "On the other hand, you have different fingers." From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 12:20:15 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14420 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:20:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:19:34 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:19:30 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:17:09 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: nomad98@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Looking for Roy Turner -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Uh, never mind. Photo and description were of the actual unit, part # and price were for the CD. 'Twas a screw-up in their production department. Damn! Now I want a GPS! Recommedations for cycle-mountable units welcome. Think I'd stick it to my now-unused radar detector mount. Joe >>> Nomad - 6/22/99 12:05 PM >>> Joe, That's quite a $ bargain. Which catalog? Herb --- JOE NAGY wrote: > Collin, > > I believe you spelled "synchronizers" correctly. > > Next question: anyone have experience with the > Garmin GPSIII Plus? I'm looking at one in a catalog for 80 bucks. Been > wanting a GPS but don't know a dang thing about 'em. > > Thanks, > > Joe (frequently lost) > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 12:58:00 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15182 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10wTpI-0003wT-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:55:12 -0400 Received: from david500 ([209.70.174.26]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA25890 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:58:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001001bebcd1$2da18760$1aae46d1@david500.bdanet.com> From: "Dave Cross" To: Subject: SPAM: Horsepower Shootout Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:03:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Forgive the sponsor plug but just a reminder: Fast Lane Cycles is having its 5th annual Horsepower Shootout this Sunday. For 20 bucks you can find out just how many ponies your motorcycle is making on their Dyno. Plus you get a t-shirt and there are cash prizes for class winners. Please go to their web site for more details. David Cross WERA & CCS #416 Sponsored by Fast Lane Cycles http://www.fastlanecycles.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 13:11:58 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15471 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3D91C7A01C6; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:11:53 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990622125617.012d66e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:02:04 -0400 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: seat cover question In-Reply-To: <01BEBC9A.325884C0.bernescut@ncea.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:30 AM 6/22/99 , Cedric Bernescut wrote: >I was wondering if anyone can recommend a place to get a stock Honda seat >recovered. My CBR's seat is starting to show signs of being parked >outdoors and has multiple tears in it. The foam appears to be OK and I was >going to see if its possible to replace just the vinyl cover. I would like >to keep the stock appearance as much as possible. Has anyone tried >Sargeants or similar type seat reconstruction? I haven't had a seat re-done by Sargents, but have heard nothing but good things about them. Dennis Kirk sells Travelcade seat covers - look like original, and fasten over the existing cover (about $50). You may want to try a local automotive upholstery shop - from what I've heard, cycle seats are very easy to do (by their standards), and they charge a whole lot less. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 14:02:52 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f215.hotmail.com [209.185.130.125]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16423 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 594 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 1999 18:02:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990622180218.593.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:02:17 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.22] Reply-To: mrider@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman To: NAGYJ@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: GPS Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:02:17 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Joe, If it's a III+ $80 is a great deal. I don't use Garmin, but in the $80 range all you get is a water-resistant hand held unit that usually doesn't have any maps in the background. For about twice that, you get the kind that takes a map cartridge or two and can show the roads in detail for a limited area. In the $300 and up range you get the kind that can get their maps uploaded from a CD or other scanned map source. I have an Eagle MapGuide Pro. It's one of the CD kind. It's great for daytime use, at night and in strange areas, the map is a little small to try to use while moving. If you're going to use it in a car, a better option would be a laptop (or palmtop) and the $80 GPS since the little GPS can send the info to the computer and the computer can display a large moving map. Programs like Street Atlas will even read the directions to your destination as you go. There are several others on this list who use GPS. Anita and I have the Lowrance, Linda Tanner, Louis Caplan, Bob Broeking and Harry Greenspun all have Garmins (at least I think they do.) Leon. >From: JOE NAGY >Next question: anyone have experience with the >Garmin GPSIII Plus? I'm looking at one in a catalog for 80 bucks. Been >wanting a GPS but don't know a dang thing about 'em. > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 14:14:23 1999 Return-Path: dhallis@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f95.hotmail.com [209.185.131.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16612 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:14:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 99464 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 1999 18:13:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990622181345.99462.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 204.193.255.42 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:13:44 PDT X-Originating-IP: [204.193.255.42] From: Doug Allis To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Back from Laconia....pffft! Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:13:44 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I hate the NYT web site. to look at this article now I have to purchase it. How many people actually give these guys their actual age and income? Needless to say I was not able to look at it. >From: "mobacc" >To: "DC Cycles" >Subject: Re: Back from Laconia....pffft! >Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 21:50:25 -0400 > >Dale and Tracy -- > > If not seen already, the New York Times today had a >not-too-complimentary piece on the Laconia Bike Rally. "The Taming of a >Rally Rankles the Bikers" >http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/bikers-breast-ban.html >(may require simple registration). > > The taming is probably downgrading the entire flavor of the event. >Sorry your trip a bummer. > > Summit races today apparently a dry respite from this area's >moistness. >Will be looking forward to DC-Cycles efforts, as I'm sure you are. > >Bill S. / DC >99 VN750 --> "Taming" - ? What means this? >Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dale Horstman >To: DC Cycles >Date: Sunday, June 20, 1999 7:29 PM >Subject: Back from Laconia....pffft! > > > >Hey all, > > > >Tracy and I rolled back into the driveway just after midnight > >last night. Took the "scenic" route down I-95 from Boston > >through NYC, never ran that part of the interstate before. > >With any luck, we never will again. :) > > > >Laconia was a big bust as far as we were concerned. Too many > >straight-pipe-v-twins deafened us, and after strolling along > >checking out vendor after vendor selling the same tired old > >t-shirt-and-bandana crap, we were really disappointed with the > >whole scene. I thought there would be much more. Oh well. > >I guess next year we check out Americade. > > > >And as for New Hampshire, well, the scenery was nice. The > >roads? Well, they could have used a little, ok, a LOT of work. > >Even the vaunted Kancamagus (scank-a-mongoose?) highway was in > >pretty sad shape. I was so surprised that NH had such wonderful > >interstate highways and such crappy backroads. Only Pennsylvania > >and Michigan rank worse in my experience. Blech. > > > >So anyway, what did I miss while I was gone? :) > > > >-- > >Dale Horstman (The Horkster) > >horkster@XXXXXX > >Dale City, VA, USA, Earth > > > >1998 Concours - His - BugSlayer II - VA Plate: BGSLYR > >1999 Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi (Knee-High) > > > >"I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet > >sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." > > - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 14:21:56 1999 Return-Path: deejack@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f123.hotmail.com [216.32.181.123]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16871 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27055 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 1999 18:21:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990622182112.27054.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.209.231.104 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:21:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.209.231.104] From: "Deitra L.Jackson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Hello! Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:21:12 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I come in peace! New to (this) list Live in Greenbelt, MD Rider since last year Prospect for Lady Hawks M/C Single parent 3-kids (daughter #1 - senior at ODU; daughter #2 - Navy Sea(wo)man in Little Creek, VA; son - newly HS grad on his way to DSU) Life's Motto: "Get over it!" Deitra L. Jackson aka ProudMom 1989 Suzuki GS500E aka DreamWeaver AMA #681266 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 15:04:15 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17608 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:04:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199906221504.AA735445176@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, deejack@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hello! X-Mailer: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Deitra L.Jackson" Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:21:12 EDT >I come in peace! >New to (this) list >3-kids (daughter #1 - senior at ODU; daughter #2 - Navy Sea(wo)man in >Little Creek, VA; son - newly HS grad on his way to DSU) Hi Deitra! I am so envious! You have three kids, all grown up. Now you can RIDE! I've got two, one is still too small to reach the pegs, the other one falls asleep after 10 minutes as pillion. I'm able to squeeze a few miles in here and there, though. :) Welcome! Dale (the Horkster) -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth 1998 Concours - His - BugSlayer II - VA Plate: BGSLYR 1999 Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi (Knee-High) "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 16:38:50 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19365 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:38:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 22 Jun 1999 23:38:47 UT Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:36 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Deitra L.Jackson" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:Hello! Message-ID: <19990622143706842-4fd1d0d@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Welcome to the list! Cool bike, too... Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Hello! Author: deejack@XXXXXX (Deitra L.Jackson) Date: 6/22/99 2:21 PM I come in peace! New to (this) list Live in Greenbelt, MD Rider since last year Prospect for Lady Hawks M/C Single parent 3-kids (daughter #1 - senior at ODU; daughter #2 - Navy Sea(wo)man in Little Creek, VA; son - newly HS grad on his way to DSU) Life's Motto: "Get over it!" Deitra L. Jackson aka ProudMom 1989 Suzuki GS500E aka DreamWeaver AMA #681266 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 17:44:56 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA20441 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:44:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-78-74.s11.as6.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.78.74]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id RAA23181 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004101bebcf9$16f9c9a0$4a4eaccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: MidOhio tickets Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:49:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Finally received my MidOhio tickets today at the post office. Just over 3 weeks til the race. I sure need acouple of days off. Did anyone else get their tickets yet. I plan on caging up early on 7/15 and try to caught as much practice as possible. Talk to ya all soon, Brian N 96 Yamaha FZR600 PS Go the Pocono Cycle Festival brochure today. I'm giving some seriuos thought about going up. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 18:04:46 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA20919 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id SAA16679; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:04:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:04:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: Brian N cc: dc-cycles Subject: Re: MidOhio tickets In-Reply-To: <004101bebcf9$16f9c9a0$4a4eaccf@brn626> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Brian N wrote: > Finally received my MidOhio tickets today at the post office. Just over 3 > weeks til the race. I sure need acouple of days off. Did anyone else get > their tickets yet. I plan on caging up early on 7/15 and try to caught as > much practice as possible. We got ours as well! And they ended up charging me less than the advertised price for some reason (paid $37 for the "Super ticket" which includes a paddock pass). Brian - if you're going to cage it, is there any way I could impose on you to carry a couple things for me? I might think about riding the Ducati if I don't need to load it with tons of junk. :) - Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 20:46:38 1999 Return-Path: fwegerich@XXXXXX Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23749 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earthlink.net (ip140.leesburg4.va.pub-ip.psi.net [38.30.171.140]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00517; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37702EE0.C91BABDF@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:48:33 -0400 From: Frank Wegerich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mrider@XXXXXX CC: NAGYJ@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: GPS References: <19990622180218.593.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got a Garmin III+ 4 weeks ago. It does not totally replace a map (especially during trip preparation) but it s great in pinpointing your location on the map display. I hate to get lost. The GPS lets me know when the next exit or turn comes up without me having to check a map while driving. Check out this web site if you need any additional information: http://www.bridge.de/~tom/gps3.htm If you want to buy check www.tvnav.com, they offer the GPSIII+ for $345. Frank Leon Begeman wrote: > Joe, If it's a III+ $80 is a great deal. I don't use Garmin, but in the $80 > range all you get is a water-resistant hand held unit that usually doesn't > have any maps in the background. For about twice that, you get the kind > that takes a map cartridge or two and can show the roads in detail for a > limited area. In the $300 and up range you get the kind that can get their > maps uploaded from a CD or other scanned map source. > > I have an Eagle MapGuide Pro. It's one of the CD kind. It's great for > daytime use, at night and in strange areas, the map is a little small to try > to use while moving. > > If you're going to use it in a car, a better option would be a laptop (or > palmtop) and the $80 GPS since the little GPS can send the info to the > computer and the computer can display a large moving map. Programs like > Street Atlas will even read the directions to your destination as you go. > > There are several others on this list who use GPS. Anita and I have the > Lowrance, Linda Tanner, Louis Caplan, Bob Broeking and Harry Greenspun all > have Garmins (at least I think they do.) > > Leon. > > >From: JOE NAGY > >Next question: anyone have experience with the > >Garmin GPSIII Plus? I'm looking at one in a catalog for 80 bucks. Been > >wanting a GPS but don't know a dang thing about 'em. > > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 20:53:38 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23841 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc2-s6.wizard.net [206.161.15.82]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA16688 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:53:33 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Subject: Ride this weekend? Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:53:42 -0400 Message-ID: <000501bebd12$d6eefc80$970fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Okay, after getting rained out this past weekend, I'm ready for a 'real' ride.. 250-300 miles at least! For lack of anything more original, I'm prepared to do Alan Wheat's NOVAMGR Skyline Ride... start from Old Country Buffett in Manassas by 9:00 am... head down to the *end* of Skyline Drive, then north on Skyline to 211, eventually winding up at Rte 66 near Warrenton. The first part of the ride is a little boring, but then there are some fun back roads before we get to Skyline. The lower portion of Skyline tends to be a lot less crowded, so it will be pretty cool. We can have a late lunch at Big Meadow. The ride is pretty long.. about 260 miles to/from Manassas. Don't particularly care if it's Saturday or Sunday.. but judging from the weatherperson's accuracy (NOT!) last weekend, if the weather is good Saturday I'll probably go Saturday. If anyone is interested, please drop me a line.. and if anyone has a better idea, fire away! :-) Anita '96 GPZ1100 (hasn't been ridden in 1.5 weeks due to a combination of rain, and "dress up" days at work... AUGH!!!) From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 22 22:45:24 1999 Return-Path: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (root@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA25773 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:45:21 -0400 (EDT) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA05122; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:40:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906230240.WAA05122@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: GPS To: fwegerich@XXXXXX (Frank Wegerich) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:40:33 -0400 (EDT) Cc: mrider@XXXXXX, NAGYJ@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <37702EE0.C91BABDF@earthlink.net> from "Frank Wegerich" at Jun 22, 99 08:48:33 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > I got a Garmin III+ 4 weeks ago. It does not totally replace a map (especially > during trip preparation) but it s great in pinpointing your location on the map > display. I hate to get lost. The GPS lets me know when the next exit or turn > comes up without me having to check a map while driving. > > Check out this web site if you need any additional information: > http://www.bridge.de/~tom/gps3.htm > > If you want to buy check www.tvnav.com, they offer the GPSIII+ for $345. > wall-mart was selling them for 327 immediately after they hit market. I used Garmin II+. No maps, but great for backpacking, and for finding locations. Skipped Garmin III - only base maps, no possibility to load maps. Got myself III+ few months ago. Couple times on WYDYMF rides was a life saver, once got us into quite weird gravel roads. I use Street Atlas 6 for road planning, and just browsing; then GArmin Roads and tracks to upload detailed maps into Garmin. Waypoint to save tracks. Look at joe.mehaffey.com - best site fro GPS. From there you will find anything about GPS. > > Leon Begeman wrote: > > > Joe, If it's a III+ $80 is a great deal. I don't use Garmin, but in the $80 I am afraid it might be II+. Then it does not have maps at all, nor can one upload maps. Only waypoints and routes from Street Atlas. GPS II - old single channel receiver. Do not buy it. GPS II+ - 12 channels, much faster in acquisition, better holding of lock. if cheap, great for keeping track where you are. NO MAPS. GPS III - base maps, non-uploadable, can be upgraded ( swapped ) at garmin. Check upgrade price against new III+, and do it. GPS III+ - uploadable maps, same form factor like others. Expensive CD for uploadable maps (it is tis same Tiger street database like in Street Atlas 5.0 ). Otherwise fun. Street Pilot from Garmin: detailed maps on cartridges, expensive - 150-200 for metro area. Great screen ( newer model with colors..). Much larger than II/III familiy. There is fellow rider on DC-cycles, I think on Highthawk or Magna, with Street Pilot mounted on handlebars. That is impressive. _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 00:54:27 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA28133 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:54:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id AAA17013; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:54:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:54:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Ride this weekend? In-Reply-To: <000501bebd12$d6eefc80$970fa1ce@anita> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'd go if you do it on Sunday. Is it supposed to rain that day or something? - Bri On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Anita Lauro wrote: > Okay, after getting rained out this past weekend, I'm ready for a 'real' > ride.. 250-300 miles at least! > > For lack of anything more original, I'm prepared to do Alan Wheat's NOVAMGR > Skyline Ride... start from Old Country Buffett in Manassas by 9:00 am... > head down to the *end* of Skyline Drive, then north on Skyline to 211, > eventually winding up at Rte 66 near Warrenton. The first part of the ride > is a little boring, but then there are some fun back roads before we get to > Skyline. The lower portion of Skyline tends to be a lot less crowded, so it > will be pretty cool. We can have a late lunch at Big Meadow. The ride is > pretty long.. about 260 miles to/from Manassas. > > Don't particularly care if it's Saturday or Sunday.. but judging from the > weatherperson's accuracy (NOT!) last weekend, if the weather is good > Saturday I'll probably go Saturday. > > If anyone is interested, please drop me a line.. and if anyone has a better > idea, fire away! :-) > > Anita > '96 GPZ1100 (hasn't been ridden in 1.5 weeks due to a combination of rain, > and "dress up" days at work... AUGH!!!) > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 07:22:04 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA05711 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:21:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: SPAM: Horsepower Shootout Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:21:28 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Forgive the sponsor burn.. but: Or you can leave it with them for 5+ (still counting) weeks and over $500 and you might get the same info.. someday - if they ever decide to actually START work on the bike.. Brian McCoy (as you can see, HIGHLY unsatasfied with my one experience with them) > -----Original Message----- > Forgive the sponsor plug but just a reminder: > > Fast Lane Cycles is having its 5th annual Horsepower Shootout > this Sunday. > For 20 bucks you can find out just how many ponies your > motorcycle is making > on their Dyno. Plus you get a t-shirt and there are cash > prizes for class > winners. > > Please go to their web site for more details. > > David Cross > WERA & CCS #416 > Sponsored by Fast Lane Cycles > http://www.fastlanecycles.com > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 08:04:19 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06362 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc1-s42.wizard.net [206.161.15.72]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA17620; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:04:22 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "BrianRoach" Cc: Subject: RE: Ride this weekend? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:04:25 -0400 Message-ID: <000301bebd70$89d86680$480fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <001701bebd6f$eae75040$480fa1ce@anita> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal > ----- Original Message ----- So far (not that I believe long term forecasts), it's "Chance of Thunderstorms" on Saturday, and partly sunny for Sunday. I'll see how the forecast looks on Friday morning, and post the day for the ride then. I just don't want to get rained out again! :-) Anita > From: Brian Roach > To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 12:54 AM > Subject: Re: Ride this weekend? > > > > > > I'd go if you do it on Sunday. Is it supposed to rain that day or > > something? > > > > - Bri > > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 09:05:43 1999 Return-Path: mullins_john@XXXXXX Received: from mclean-mail.usae.bah.com (mclean-mail.usae.bah.com [156.80.5.109]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07975 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bah.com ([156.80.170.53]) by mclean-mail.usae.bah.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA24FC; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:03:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3770DA0D.43C1992F@bah.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:58:53 -0400 From: "Mullins John" Organization: BAH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Ride this weekend? References: <000501bebd12$d6eefc80$970fa1ce@anita> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd be up for trying this again ether day. By the way here is what the weathermen are saying for this weekend: - Weather Channel (www.weather.com) Sat - Partly Cloudy 69-90 Sun - Sunny 72-95 - Intellicast (intellicast.com) Sat - Partly Cloudy 69-90 Sun - isolated showers during the day 70-92 - wunderground.com Sat - Partly sunny 70-90 Sun - Partly sunny 70-90 It looks like your plan of waiting until the day to check the weather is probably a good one (just look outside your window and decide then). John Mullins 95 Ninja EX500 From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 10:50:45 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10117 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:50:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Anita.dlt.com ([199.4.241.102]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA03531; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:50:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199906231450.KAA03531@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Mullins John" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:51:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Ride this weekend? Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3770DA0D.43C1992F@bah.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) On 23 Jun 99, at 8:58, Mullins John wrote: > It looks like your plan of waiting until the day to check the weather is > probably a good one (just look outside your window and decide then). Well... I'll pick a day by Friday so everyone can plan accordingly. Last minute is fine when you are riding by yourself, but not so good for group rides! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 11:09:04 1999 Return-Path: psi_hobbes@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (f270.hotmail.com [207.82.251.161]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA10452 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56487 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jun 1999 15:08:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990623150830.56486.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.172.7.13 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:08:30 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.172.7.13] From: Kirt Senser To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Ride this weekend? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:08:30 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed sorry, i missed what's going on with this ride... Where exactly are you riding/meeting up? I'm interested in finding some riders in our area. I am 22, not (really) a squid, and would like to find some riding buddies, male or female and any age, to ride with. All of my slacker friends either ride Vespas (which are cool for being a scooter, but slow and handle like a drunk elephant...no way they can keep up with me), or haven't purchased/fixed their motorcycles yet. Either way...let me know ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Mullins John" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Ride this weekend? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:51:10 -0400 On 23 Jun 99, at 8:58, Mullins John wrote: > It looks like your plan of waiting until the day to check the weather is > probably a good one (just look outside your window and decide then). Well... I'll pick a day by Friday so everyone can plan accordingly. Last minute is fine when you are riding by yourself, but not so good for group rides! :-) Anita _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 11:17:43 1999 Return-Path: mullins_john@XXXXXX Received: from mclean-mail.usae.bah.com (mclean-mail.usae.bah.com [156.80.5.109]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10624 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:17:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bah.com ([156.80.170.53]) by mclean-mail.usae.bah.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA283D; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:15:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3770F8F4.819DC31A@bah.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:10:44 -0400 From: "Mullins John" Organization: BAH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Ride this weekend? References: <199906231450.KAA03531@radagast.wizard.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know... I know... I was trying to be sarcastic about our weathermen friends. =;-> - John Anita Lauro wrote: > > On 23 Jun 99, at 8:58, Mullins John wrote: > > > It looks like your plan of waiting until the day to check the weather is > > probably a good one (just look outside your window and decide then). > > Well... I'll pick a day by Friday so everyone can plan accordingly. > Last minute is fine when you are riding by yourself, but not so good > for group rides! :-) > > Anita From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 14:14:12 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13809 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 14:14:36 -0400 Message-Id: <201906231414.AA16121942@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: , Subject: Re: Egg Parka X-Mailer: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Bill Buchanan >For lack of a better term (and the manufacturer discourages it) this >company sells an "airbag jacket" that deploys when you separate from >the bike. For now it's only available in Japan. Check it out. >http://www.eggparka.com --------------------------------------------------------------- This actually looks like it might be effective. Although I'd hate to forget to unplug it as I walk away from the bike in the parking lot. :) D'oh! Dale -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth 1998 Concours - His - BugSlayer II - VA Plate: BGSLYR 1999 Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi (Knee-High) "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 14:35:56 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14239 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Anita.dlt.com ([199.4.241.102]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA31476; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:36:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199906231836.OAA31476@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Kirt Senser , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:36:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Ride this weekend? Priority: normal In-reply-to: <19990623150830.56486.qmail@hotmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) On 23 Jun 99, at 11:08, Kirt Senser wrote: > sorry, i missed what's going on with this ride... Where exactly are you > riding/meeting up? Kirt (and other interested parties)... The plan is to meet at the Old Country Buffett on Rte 234 in Manassas. For breakfast, arrive around 8 am.. otherwise we'll be heading out at 9 am. From there we'll go southwest to the *end* of Skyline Drive, then take Skyline Drive north as far as Rte 211. >From there it's towards Warrenton and Rte 66. Lunch will be at Big Meadow sometime between 2-3 pm. The mileage to/from Manassas is about 250 miles, and it will be a long day.. when I do this ride I usually don't get back to Sterling until after 7 pm. I haven't decided if it will be Saturday or Sunday yet.. I'll post that Friday morning after I look at the weather forecasts and flip a coin! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 15:19:37 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15057 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with ESMTP id PAA06908 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:11:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990623151726.00a88980@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:20:00 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: reston town center Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I happened to be tooling around last evening and went through good 'ol reston towne center, only to discover about 3 groups of bikes, maybe 10 total. Any of you folks there, or do we have a rival gang? :) ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://ussales/granth From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 15:49:32 1999 Return-Path: twg@XXXXXX Received: from mongoose.slip.net (mongoose.slip.net [207.171.193.14]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15645 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slip-3 ([207.171.193.17] helo=slip-3.slip.net) by mongoose.slip.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 10wt1T-0002tk-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:49:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:49:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: reston town center In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.56.19990623151726.00a88980@fedsco.sco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Speaking of rival gangs. Those of you who visit the club site on Yahoo may remember the "DC Sportbike Riders Club" http://165.117.240.153/. Anyways about 20-30 of them showed up at Summit Point on Saturday and where sitting behind me in the bleachers. To my surprise they where all wearing leathers and seemed like a pretty congenial group of guys. There wher at about half a dozen R1s in the group and a lot of GSXRs. A few of the guys did burn outs on there way out of the track which I found reassuringly squidly. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 16:12:33 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailprime.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16109 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2019 16:13:31 -0400 Message-Id: <201906231613.AA390332514@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: , Subject: Re: reston town center X-Mailer: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Hugh Caldwell Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:49:24 -0700 (PDT) > Speaking of rival gangs. Those of you who visit the club site on Yahoo may remember the "DC Sportbike Riders Club" http://165.117.240.153/. Anyways about 20-30 of them showed up at Summit Point on Saturday and where sitting behind me in the bleachers. To my surprise they where all wearing leathers and seemed like a pretty congenial group of guys. --------------------------------------------------------------- So did you tell 'em about us? I've surfed their website, they kinda did leave that squidly impression. But then again, so do we, at times... :) Dale -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth 1998 Concours - His - BugSlayer II - VA Plate: BGSLYR 1999 Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi (Knee-High) "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 17:04:59 1999 Return-Path: twg@XXXXXX Received: from mongoose.slip.net (mongoose.slip.net [207.171.193.14]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17188 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slip-3 ([207.171.193.17] helo=slip-3.slip.net) by mongoose.slip.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 10wuCU-0003aM-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:04:54 -0700 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:04:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: reston town center In-Reply-To: <201906231613.AA390332514@tidalwave.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 23 Jun 2019, Horkster wrote: > So did you tell 'em about us? I've surfed their > website, they kinda did leave that squidly impression. > But then again, so do we, at times... :) > So now we know why the cops don't wave back, and no I didn't tell them about DC-Cycles. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 17:33:22 1999 Return-Path: ltweed@XXXXXX Received: from m6.boston.juno.com (m6.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.197]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17749 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ltweed@XXXXXX) by m6.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EDTZPLCM; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:32:37 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:30:46 -0400 Subject: dirt bike wanted Message-ID: <19990623.173108.-746071.1.ltweed@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-4 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Louis E Tweed I have a friend looking for a dirt bike to ride on trails and occasionally on a motocross track. I am thinking a KDX or similar machine. Anyone have one for sale? No older than 1990, doesn't matter between 4 or 2 stroke. Thanks, Louis Tweed ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 18:53:08 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19220 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-80-78.s15.as6.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.80.78]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA10582 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00f401bebdcb$4f8b69e0$4e50accf@95> From: "D. Thompson" To: References: <000501bebd12$d6eefc80$970fa1ce@anita> <3770DA0D.43C1992F@bah.com> Subject: Re: Ride this weekend? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:54:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In case anyone is interested, there is a Poker run "in memory of Stan Baker, all proceeds will go to Stan's widow and children" on Sunday the 27th. It starts at Blalock Cycles in Warrenton and ends at M&P Pizza (good food) in Morrisville, which on rt. 17 between Warrenton and Fredrickburg. I am probably going to do it since this is the family of at least one student where I teach and more that will come later. Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 19:39:13 1999 Return-Path: jbroga@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20143 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (sterling-10.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FDT00LIT0CSAF@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:30:42 -0700 From: jambroga Subject: In search of GSXR Brake Pedal To: SV650@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <002501bebde9$8ec5a620$0a2fbccc@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 Oh God of GSXR . . . Anyone have a spare SV/GSXR brake pedal they would be willing to sell me? I live in South Riding VA and need one by next Wednesday (7/1). Cycle Sport has one back ordered for me, and Fast Lane is out of stock. Anyhelp would be appreciated. (Collin are you out there?) Jonathan From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 23 23:03:22 1999 Return-Path: tansey@XXXXXX Received: from links.magenta.com (tansey@XXXXXX [151.199.66.150]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA23712 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by links.magenta.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA16551 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:00:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Tansey To: DC Cycles Subject: Alternate ride this weekend? In-Reply-To: <199906231836.OAA31476@radagast.wizard.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone interested in a shorter, slower ride on Sunday with a beginner? I did about 150 miles today on the bike (longest ride I've done so far). Locked the breaks, almost bounced but managed to keep it upright. *whew* Given that, I'm thinking I'd rather start out with "mini" group rides. Any takers? I'm in Reston, but I'm pretty flexible as to where the ride goes. Shannon 1990 Virago 535 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 08:23:40 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04262 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A3482202A2; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:23:36 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990624081053.012d1030@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:11:46 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Upholsterers in Falls Church? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, all. Any recommendations for upholsterers in Falls Church? I want to get a motorcycle seat recovered, and thought I'd try local first. thanks, Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 08:55:02 1999 Return-Path: mjay@XXXXXX Received: from resolver.treev.com ([38.183.229.13]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05084 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:54:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tralfaz.herndon.treev.com (treev.com [10.1.1.24]) by resolver.treev.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02327 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tralfaz.treev.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:58:37 -0400 Message-ID: <22F6F36CA6A3D111B95A006097177427D4F30F@tralfaz.treev.com> From: Michael Jay To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Ride this weekend? Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:58:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Danny, What's the buzz? Where is Blalock Cycles relative to Tysons Corner? Any details regarding the route? My fixer-upper '82 Seca has limited range due to age and design, but I may be able to participate since Warrenton and Morrisville are about 20 miles apart via Route 17. Does the planned route have gas stations available? What's the schedule? Is early afternoon an OK start time? Mike Jay XJ750RJ -----Original Message----- From: D. Thompson [mailto:dthompso1@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 6:54 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Ride this weekend? In case anyone is interested, there is a Poker run "in memory of Stan Baker, all proceeds will go to Stan's widow and children" on Sunday the 27th. It starts at Blalock Cycles in Warrenton and ends at M&P Pizza (good food) in Morrisville, which on rt. 17 between Warrenton and Fredrickburg. I am probably going to do it since this is the family of at least one student where I teach and more that will come later. Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 09:48:27 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA06423 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:48:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA21533 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:48:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Saturday dirt ride Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'll be riding in the dirt in the Beltsville/Laurel area saturday afternoon. Let me know if you're interested in joining me. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 10:55:48 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailprime.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA07513 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:55:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:56:13 -0400 Message-Id: <199906241056.AA3220308034@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: , Subject: Re: Upholsterers in Falls Church? X-Mailer: I know of one in Manassas that did good work for me on the Savage. He charged $70 to recover a solo seat, I imagine it would probably be a little more for a dual seat. Browning's Custom Upholstery 8451 Maplewood Dr. Manassas (just off Rte. 28) (703) 369-7360 Dale ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Chris Norloff Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:11:46 -0400 >Hi, all. Any recommendations for upholsterers in Falls Church? I want to get a motorcycle seat recovered, and thought I'd try local first. thanks, Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth 1998 Concours - His - BugSlayer II - VA Plate: BGSLYR 1999 Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi (Knee-High) "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 11:15:30 1999 Return-Path: bernescut@XXXXXX Received: from raphael.catholic.org (raphael.catholic.org [207.95.245.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07966 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ACRE1.ncea.org ([12.4.21.69]) by raphael.catholic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA26303 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:15:19 -0700 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:10:09 -0400 Message-ID: <01BEBE32.1F01B380.bernescut@ncea.org> From: Cedric Bernescut Reply-To: "bernescut@XXXXXX" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: RE: Upholsterers in Falls Church? Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:10:07 -0400 Organization: NCEA X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I checked and found one in Falls Church called Seatco. Over the telephone they quoted $150 and up to recover motorcycle seats. I think I'll check out Brownings instead. Cedric -----Original Message----- From: Horkster [SMTP:horkster@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 10:56 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Upholsterers in Falls Church? I know of one in Manassas that did good work for me on the Savage. He charged $70 to recover a solo seat, I imagine it would probably be a little more for a dual seat. Browning's Custom Upholstery 8451 Maplewood Dr. Manassas (just off Rte. 28) (703) 369-7360 Dale ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Chris Norloff Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:11:46 -0400 >Hi, all. Any recommendations for upholsterers in Falls Church? I want to get a motorcycle seat recovered, and thought I'd try local first. thanks, Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth 1998 Concours - His - BugSlayer II - VA Plate: BGSLYR 1999 Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi (Knee-High) "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 11:27:11 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08119 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id IAA17251 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:24:51 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:24:51 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: smaclean@XXXXXX, bandit-talk@XXXXXX, DC Cycles Subject: RE: Corbin Humour Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:24:45 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Very cute!. Just for the record, though, its Veni, not Vini. Could be "vini" Maybe a nice Pinot Grigio or Tocai... ;-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 12:00:00 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08710 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-229-188.s569.tnt6.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.229.188]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA24893; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:59:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 99 11:55:27 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 06/23/99 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, 2xracers@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> >To: >Subject: Ride this weekend? >Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:53:42 -0400 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 > >Okay, after getting rained out this past weekend, I'm ready for a 'real' >ride.. 250-300 miles at least! > >For lack of anything more original, I'm prepared to do Alan Wheat's NOVAMGR >Skyline Ride... start from Old Country Buffett in Manassas by 9:00 am... >head down to the *end* of Skyline Drive, then north on Skyline to 211, >eventually winding up at Rte 66 near Warrenton. The first part of the ride >is a little boring, but then there are some fun back roads before we get to >Skyline. The lower portion of Skyline tends to be a lot less crowded, so it >will be pretty cool. We can have a late lunch at Big Meadow. The ride is >pretty long.. about 260 miles to/from Manassas. > >Don't particularly care if it's Saturday or Sunday.. but judging from the >weatherperson's accuracy (NOT!) last weekend, if the weather is good >Saturday I'll probably go Saturday. > >If anyone is interested, please drop me a line.. and if anyone has a better >idea, fire away! :-) > >Anita >'96 GPZ1100 (hasn't been ridden in 1.5 weeks due to a combination of rain, >and "dress up" days at work... AUGH!!!) If I'm in town, I'm game, but I don't know whether or not I'll have to do a last minute trip to cleveland or not. Either day is fine with me. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/24/99 HSTA/AMA 11:55:27 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 12:06:55 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08877 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03958 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:06:52 -0400 (EDT) From: ddiefend@XXXXXX Received: from ibmmail.COM (ibmmail.com [204.146.168.193]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA02909 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ibmmail.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via spool with SMTP id 0773 ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:06:44 EDT Received: from mail1.dominionsc.com [32.72.67.7] by imxgate.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:06:34 EDT Received: by mail1.dominionsc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (778.2 1-4-1999)) id 8525679A.0058C704 ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:09:41 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: DSC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525679A.0058C647.00@mail1.dominionsc.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:06:41 -0400 Subject: window tinting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I have seen discussion here about using automotive window tinting film on the upper edge of helmet visors. I am wondering if it could be used on a motorcycle windshield? And then to go one step further...... if it could be used on the front of the shield it could be a sacrificial layer to protect the shield form scratches. Just replace it periodically? Any knowledge? My concern is the adhesive attacking the shield and then how do you remove it without damaging the shield? This all comes up because i am installing a WindVest on my Sportster. They offer a tinted shield but it is a brown tint. I have a black and chrome bike, the brown looks like crap. A grey or charcoal tint would look sharp. Any thoughts? Dave From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 12:27:25 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09299 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user39.anent.com [208.195.115.39]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00475 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:24:46 -0400 Message-ID: <038001bebe5e$6df79d20$2773c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Attn: DC-Cycles Racers Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:27:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Doesn't one of you guys race a CBR F2? If so, please contact me off list. Thanks! Bruce '98 VFR800 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 12:37:13 1999 Return-Path: Glenn.Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil ([134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09502 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:34:04 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB068C@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM" To: "'bernescut@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Upholsterers in Falls Church? Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:34:21 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) You know for all that money why not just have Sargent (http://www.sargentcycle.com/) redo the seat? Glenn I checked and found one in Falls Church called Seatco. Over the telephone they quoted $150 and up to recover motorcycle seats. I think I'll check out Brownings instead. Cedric From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 15:26:26 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12449 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA11303 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.bellatlantic.net (client-209-158-138-15.libertyhs.com [209.158.138.15]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA07671; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906241925.PAA07671@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Michael Jay Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:27:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Poker Run was: Ride this weekend? Priority: normal In-reply-to: <22F6F36CA6A3D111B95A006097177427D4F30F@tralfaz.treev.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Michael, > What's the buzz? > > Where is Blalock Cycles relative to Tysons Corner? Blalocks in right in Warrenton on the Old bypass of Rt. 29 across from K-Mart, Appleby's, etc. You can't miss it if you stay on 29 business (211 west) it is on the left. > Any details regarding the route? > My fixer-upper '82 Seca has limited range due to age and design, but I may > be able to participate since Warrenton and Morrisville are about 20 miles > apart via Route 17. > > Does the planned route have gas stations available? I don't know anything about the route, but I am sure they will make sure everyone can get gas. > What's the schedule? Is early afternoon an OK start time? They are saying the first bikes leave at 9:30 so I would assume they will have some kind of cut off time, but I really only know what they put on the flier. > > Mike Jay > XJ750RJ From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 17:41:04 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14996 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:41:03 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id mZIa005986 (4322); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <53683ace.24a3ff8c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:39:24 EDT Subject: Re: Alternate ride this weekend? To: tansey@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Saturday afternoon/evening I'm availible, and will probably be itching to ride. I don't know VA roads that well though. I know my way to and from work @ Dulles airport, and how to get to a few other places, but otherwise I do a fair amount of wandering. I can always get back to where I started though!! :) Rob VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 20:09:26 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA17665 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (216-164-243-78.s78.tnt11.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.243.78]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id UAA19822; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 99 20:02:59 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 06/24/99 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Tansey , 2xracers@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:00:16 -0400 (EDT) >From: Tansey >To: DC Cycles >Subject: Alternate ride this weekend? > > >Anyone interested in a shorter, slower ride on Sunday with a beginner? > >I did about 150 miles today on the bike (longest ride I've done so far). >Locked the breaks, almost bounced but managed to keep it upright. *whew* > >Given that, I'm thinking I'd rather start out with "mini" group rides. Any >takers? I'm in Reston, but I'm pretty flexible as to where the ride goes. > >Shannon >1990 Virago 535 I'd be game, looks like i won't be heading to Cleveland this weekend, I'm in Mclean, very flexible as to direction. > >Date: Thu, 24 Jun 99 11:55:27 EDT >From: Greg Sachs >Sender: Greg Sachs >Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 06/23/99 >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, 2xracers@XXXXXX > >>From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> >>To: >>Subject: Ride this weekend? >>Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:53:42 -0400 >>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 >> >>Okay, after getting rained out this past weekend, I'm ready for a 'real' >>ride.. 250-300 miles at least! >> >>For lack of anything more original, I'm prepared to do Alan Wheat's >NOVAMGR >>Skyline Ride... start from Old Country Buffett in Manassas by 9:00 am... >>head down to the *end* of Skyline Drive, then north on Skyline to 211, >>eventually winding up at Rte 66 near Warrenton. The first part of the >ride >>is a little boring, but then there are some fun back roads before we get >to >>Skyline. The lower portion of Skyline tends to be a lot less crowded, so >it >>will be pretty cool. We can have a late lunch at Big Meadow. The ride is >>pretty long.. about 260 miles to/from Manassas. >> >>Don't particularly care if it's Saturday or Sunday.. but judging from >the >>weatherperson's accuracy (NOT!) last weekend, if the weather is good >>Saturday I'll probably go Saturday. >> >>If anyone is interested, please drop me a line.. and if anyone has a >better >>idea, fire away! :-) >> >>Anita >>'96 GPZ1100 (hasn't been ridden in 1.5 weeks due to a combination of >rain, >>and "dress up" days at work... AUGH!!!) >If I'm in town, I'm game, but I don't know whether or not I'll have to do >a last minute trip to cleveland or not. Either day is fine with me. > See above, I don't think I'll be heading to Cleveland now, so I'm game, long ride Sat? Slower ride sun? Please copy replies to me directly, I'm on digest -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/24/99 HSTA/AMA 8:02:59 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 20:50:09 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA18518 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:50:00 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id 3BCRa27373 (4322); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <67401d6c.24a42ba8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:47:36 EDT Subject: Sunday slow ride... was Re: dc-cycles digest for 06/24/99 To: ges6@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 For those interested in a shorter, slower ride, I'll gladly lead a group. I'm not sure of where to ride, but I'll figure something out. We can meet at the Exxon station on Route 28, just north of Old Ox Road (it's on the right at and intersection, heading Northbound on 28). How's 10AM? Rob VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 24 23:25:00 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA21034 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc3-s28.wizard.net [206.161.15.150]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA00339 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:24:45 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Subject: Camping Trip, 7/9-7/12 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:24:59 -0400 Message-ID: <000601bebeba$4dbd5200$960fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Hey all... I'm thinking of heading back down to Boyer, WV for a long weekend (7/9-7/12). Return to the site of the GPZ rally, and maybe have a little fun this time around (the rally was a ton of work). I figure I've already got several great routes worked out, so I really just have to pack up my bike and go. So, I thought I'd throw out the idea in case anyone else would be interested in a weekend of riding. The campground is located on Route 28, a few miles south of Route 250. The surrounding area is filled with great roads. The campground cost $8/night and there is a great restaurant there as well. It's near Snowshow, Cass Scenic Railroad, Highland Scenic Highway, and more. There is also a hotel onsite, and it's pretty inexpensive (i.e. $30/night). I didn't see the rooms, but judging from the overall condition of the place, I'd say they are probably clean and serviceable. It's about 200 miles from Northern VA and for the ride down and back you'd have the option of seeking out twisties like 33 and 250, sweepers on 55, or a nice scenic ride through GW National Forest. I'll probably leave around 9 am on Friday, ride a full day down there on Saturday and Sunday, and then return Monday morning. There is CCS racing at Summit Point that weekend, in case that causes a conflict for anyone. That's about it.. let me know if you are interested, and I'll keep you posted. :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 06:11:50 1999 Return-Path: MARKSOMM@XXXXXX Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA28466 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 06:11:49 -0400 (EDT) From: MARKSOMM@XXXXXX Received: from MARKSOMM@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id 2XAYa29808 (3867) for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 06:11:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 06:11:05 EDT Subject: Upholsterers in Falls Church? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Chris Norloff wrote, "Hi, all. Any recommendations for upholsterers in Falls Church? I want toget a motorcycle seat recovered, and thought I'd try local first." Have you tried doing it yourself? I bought some marine vinyl at a fabrics store for $5 and recovered mine in a couple of hours. It was much easier than I thought it would be and came out just fine. It really was a piece of cake and that was on a rusted out '81 seat that needed some rivets and sheet metal to get the fabric to stay. Mark Sommerfield From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 07:43:32 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA29869 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 07:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AB5E1EA02A0; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 07:43:26 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990625073842.00b82720@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 07:39:26 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Compliance Testing, Motorcycle Helmets FMVSS 218 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Compliance Testing, Motorcycle Helmets FMVSS 218 http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/testing/comply/fmvss218/ Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 08:23:09 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00682 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:23:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A4A23260172; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:22:58 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990625082117.00b6a3b0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:23:04 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Upholsterers in Falls Church? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:11 AM 6/25/99 , MARKSOMM@XXXXXX wrote: >Chris Norloff wrote, "Hi, all. Any recommendations for upholsterers in Falls >Church? I want toget a motorcycle seat recovered, and thought I'd try local >first." > >Have you tried doing it yourself? I bought some marine vinyl at a fabrics >store for $5 and recovered mine in a couple of hours. It was much easier >than I thought it would be and came out just fine. It really was a piece of >cake and that was on a rusted out '81 seat that needed some rivets and sheet >metal to get the fabric to stay. >Mark Sommerfield No, I haven't given it much serious thought. This seat is a 2-person one, sort of a "double-bucket" -- it looks like there's more fitting and shaping than I'd like to get into. Also, I'd like to move the driver's position back about an inch, so that would require a new (different shape) cover. But thanks anyway. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 08:46:32 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA01528 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA08717 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:46:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA18817 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flf960r1.ems.att.com ([135.71.244.37]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id IAA26530; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:46:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from njb140bh2.ems.att.com by flf960r1.ems.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/ATTEMS-1.4.1 sol2) id IAA13117; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by njb140bh2.ems.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:46:18 -0400 Message-ID: <9FE88F6AE3C1D211AE530000C0E871EEC3E329@vae820po01.nova.att.com> From: "Carver, John M, BGM" To: ddiefend@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Window Tinting on Face Shield Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:46:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain >From what I know about window tinting, all that it takes to remove it, is soap and water. However, it can be a bit stubborn and use of a razor blade (bad for plastic face shields) was necessary when the NJ DMV said I was not allowed to have it on my pickup truck's front windows. Since a MC face shield could be soaked in soapy water, maybe that would do the trick. However, I would be prepared for the worst and test it on an old face shield or piece of plastic if you have one. Let us know what you find out . . . John 98VFR From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 09:39:24 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02610 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:39:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flf960r1.ems.att.com ([135.71.244.37]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id JAA16950 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from njb140bh3.ems.att.com by flf960r1.ems.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/ATTEMS-1.4.1 sol2) id JAA02739; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by njb140bh3.ems.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:38:49 -0400 Message-ID: <9FE88F6AE3C1D211AE530000C0E871EE3B553F@vae820po01.nova.att.com> From: "Crishock, Richard M, BGM" To: "'DCC'" Subject: watch those mirrors Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:38:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Well, it *almost* happened to me. I was pointed west, sitting at a red light on 7 last night. It was about 5:30pm. I was all alone, as far as I knew. I don't remember what I was contemplating (could have been the guy with the "SAMPLE" license plate), but I was jolted back to reality by the sound of tires HOWLING behind me. I turned just in time to see a blue El Camino sliding past at probably 50mph in the right turn lane, and continuing on through the very red light, and on down the road. I'm guessing that he didn't see me, the diminutive Enfield, or the red light until he was upon us, and swerved at the last moment. How do you not see all of that? Could it be... oh, I don't know... BEER?! I think I will budget a little more time, and take the back roads to the next Purcellville Bike Night. Once I got to Purcellville, I had a great time. There was a good crowd. I met a couple of new people. There were 2 bikes that had "Made in England" decals on them, 2 from Italy, 1 from India, 4 from Germany, and 2 from the Land of the Brave. Oh yeah, there was this funny little two-stroke 250 twin from the Land of the Rising Sun. Two weeks ago, the only Japanese Bike was a Hayabusa. What a monster. When asked what it feels like to be going 150mph on it, the owner replied in a matter-of-fact tone, "It's just getting ready to run." I guess I've rambled on enough. Anyone who wants to hang out with a bunch of old bikey types is welcome to join us at the White Palace Restaurant every other Thursday. Good times. And not just for Brit iron. See ya, Rich '78 Triumph Bonneville '99 Enfield Bullet Sterling From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 09:39:35 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02620 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:39:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA08992 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA19875 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:39:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:39:13 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:39:09 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:37:46 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: jcarver@XXXXXX, ddiefend@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Window Tinting on Face Shield -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I've found that I can get out of the sun with a strip of tape on the upper edge of the shield. I use 3M vinyl tape, available at most big hardware stores. It even comes in colors so you can match your helmet or bike. Joe From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 12:39:24 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05875 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:39:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Anita.dlt.com ([199.4.241.102]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA18207 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:39:30 -0400 Message-Id: <199906251639.MAA18207@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:39:51 -0400 Subject: Sunday (6/27/99) Ride to Skyline Drive Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Okay, here are the "official" details: Date: Sunday, June 27th Where: Old Country Buffet on Rte 234 in Manassas Time: 8:00-8:15 am for Breakfast, 9:00 am ride departure time Cost: Buffet is around $7.00, Skyline Drive $5.00. Distance: From Manassas to Warrenton, 215 miles. Roads: First 58 miles, not very exciting. Next 40 miles, 'sporty' back roads, then 70 miles on Skyline Drive, then down 211 (everyone's favorite) towards Warrenton. Pace: If I'm leading, moderate.. 10-15 over max. Depending on turnout, we may have a 'fast' group, at least for the Route 810 portion. On Skyline Drive you are usually constrained by traffic, park rangers and Bambi. This is more of a 'sightseeing and socializing' ride anyhow! :-) If you have any questions feel free to email me. I do check email from home. My cell phone is 703-203-9514 if you need to contact me Sunday morning. I guess that's it.. see you all on Sunday! Anita From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 13:20:06 1999 Return-Path: tansey@XXXXXX Received: from links.magenta.com (tansey@XXXXXX [151.199.66.150]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06658 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:20:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by links.magenta.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA24324; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:16:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Tansey To: NJitzul@XXXXXX cc: ges6@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Sunday slow ride... was Re: dc-cycles digest for 06/24/99 In-Reply-To: <67401d6c.24a42ba8@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: > For those interested in a shorter, slower ride, I'll gladly lead a group. I'm > not sure of where to ride, but I'll figure something out. We can meet at the > Exxon station on Route 28, just north of Old Ox Road (it's on the right at > and intersection, heading Northbound on 28). How's 10AM? I'll be there! Shannon From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 15:06:56 1999 Return-Path: Glenn.Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08713 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:06:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:01:04 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB06D1@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM" To: "'Anita Lauro'" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Sunday (6/27/99) Ride to Skyline Drive Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:01:01 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Hey Anita, I think Skyline Drive is now $10 for the one week pass (the cheapest pass available). If anyone plans to ride the thing more then once in a fiscal year I would suggest getting the yearly pass for $20. Glenn >Cost: Buffet is around $7.00, Skyline Drive $5.00. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 17:05:46 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA10755 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Anita.dlt.com ([199.4.241.102]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA16186; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:05:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199906252105.RAA16186@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM" Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:06:12 -0400 Subject: RE: Sunday (6/27/99) Ride to Skyline Drive CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB06D1@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Thanks for the heads up.. their recording says $10 per "non commercial vehicle" but doesn't differentiate between motorcyclists and cars. Bicycles are $5, so maybe motorcycles count the same? I don't know! :-) I'll probably just go with the annual pass. Anita On 25 Jun 99, at 15:01, Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM wrote: > Hey Anita, I think Skyline Drive is now $10 for the one week pass (the > cheapest pass available). If anyone plans to ride the thing more then once > in a fiscal year I would suggest getting the yearly pass for $20. > > Glenn > > > >Cost: Buffet is around $7.00, Skyline Drive $5.00. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 18:20:58 1999 Return-Path: bigredsled@XXXXXX Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (web801.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.61]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA12028 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:20:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990625222432.29289.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.8.22.24] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:24:32 PDT Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:24:32 -0700 (PDT) From: s s Subject: RE: Sunday (6/27/99) Ride to Skyline Drive To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Unless you're a pedestrian, or on a motorcycle, then 5 smacks gets you a week pass :-) Spence.. --- "Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM" wrote: > Hey Anita, I think Skyline Drive is now $10 for the > one week pass (the > cheapest pass available). If anyone plans to ride > the thing more then once > in a fiscal year I would suggest getting the yearly > pass for $20. > > Glenn > > > >Cost: Buffet is around $7.00, Skyline Drive $5.00. > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 19:55:21 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13450 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:55:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-199-113.s367.tnt4.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.199.113]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA21931; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 99 19:52:05 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: Re: Sunday slow ride... was Re: dc-cycles digest for 06/24/99 To: NJitzul@XXXXXX, Tansey Cc: ges6@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII --- On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:16:11 -0400 (EDT) Tansey wrote: >On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: > >> For those interested in a shorter, slower ride, I'll gladly lead a group. I'm >> not sure of where to ride, but I'll figure something out. We can meet at the >> Exxon station on Route 28, just north of Old Ox Road (it's on the right at >> and intersection, heading Northbound on 28). How's 10AM? > >I'll be there! > >Shannon > > -----------------End of Original Message----------------- Just wanted to apologize, I'm going to have to bail on this, as I'm going to do anita's long ride on sunday. was hoping for anita's to be on sat, and your's on sunday, but looks like it won't work that way. sorry, greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/25/99 HSTA/AMA 7:52:05 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 21:17:39 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14815 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:17:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA12532 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:17:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.wch.adelphia.net (alpha.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA09516 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:17:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gforeman (surf141.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.141]) by alpha.wch.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id VAA02004; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:17:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary Foreman" To: "Dc-Cycles" , "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> Subject: RE: Sunday (6/27/99) Ride to Skyline Drive Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:16:45 -0400 Message-ID: <002301bebf71$8e4a5b80$1406030a@gforeman.wch.adelphia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <199906252105.RAA16186@radagast.wizard.net> Anita, I was at the Front Royal entrance Wednesday Night, and the machine would only take $10 for a vehicle, not $5, so I would check further if peoples money is tight. There was no attendant, so I just turned around, since I just wanted to go to the first outlook and take a few pictures. Gary. > -----Original Message----- > From: Anita Lauro [mailto:2xracers@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 5:06 PM > To: Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Sunday (6/27/99) Ride to Skyline Drive > > > Thanks for the heads up.. their recording says $10 per "non > commercial vehicle" but doesn't differentiate between motorcyclists > and cars. Bicycles are $5, so maybe motorcycles count the > same? I don't know! :-) I'll probably just go with the annual pass. > > Anita > > > On 25 Jun 99, at 15:01, Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM wrote: > > > Hey Anita, I think Skyline Drive is now $10 for the one week pass (the > > cheapest pass available). If anyone plans to ride the thing > more then once > > in a fiscal year I would suggest getting the yearly pass for $20. > > > > Glenn > > > > > > >Cost: Buffet is around $7.00, Skyline Drive $5.00. > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 22:07:32 1999 Return-Path: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA15679 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 22:07:31 -0400 (EDT) From: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from JimJacks@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id vIJOa23474 (226) for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 22:06:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3f9bb1e7.24a58fa7@aol.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 22:06:31 EDT Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 06/25/99 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Hi all Usually quiet, but occaisionally.....! First...depending on how much someone earns (or steals) in an hour, one may theoreticly (-cally, whatever) exceed the cost of covering a seat at almost any establishment in the process of finding the best deal. (no animosity intended) Second, I always see posts about where to get bikes fixed, etc. All I hear (almost) is how long we have to wait to get shoddy work done. I am particular, and I trust this guy (even to RIDE my bike) hes a top notch M/C mech. and also BMW and Mercedes cars...(filler material) Basicly he will return your bike to you fixed, serviced, UN-SCRATCHED, UN-DENTED, UN-GREASY FINGERPRINTED, and with all of your rear tire tread intact. He has a polite country attitude and a sharp tech mind, nice, honest, real, decent, fair, and reasonable. "And"... he had my bike done in one day, with no appointment. Anyway, I am only getting 20% commision, so thats all.... Randys Vintage Japenese 703-508-5786 (lv mess.) -jim - a bike (that flooded constantly, some of you may recall) From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 25 23:36:28 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA17106 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:36:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id 2ZAYa21076 (3891) for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:34:33 EDT Subject: If you thought Leon's Kawi's were crazy.......look here. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 This just rolled across the CBR list..... http://www.dealsgap.com/ Click on the button that says pic of the month. Some people..... -Sean Jordan '93 CBR1000F From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 26 00:18:35 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm06sm.pmm.cw.net (pm06sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA17725 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 00:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr51-dialup231.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.198.109]) by PM06SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35324) with SMTP id <0FDX006ID2LYFZ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 04:17:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 00:17:35 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: If you thought Leon's Kawi's were crazy.......look here. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <003b01bebf69$4b446f40$6dc63ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: > http://www.dealsgap.com/ > -Sean Jordan LOL, that's a first for me. I've never seen a crotch-chopper before. How does that person not burn their leg on the exhaust when they set their feet down? Too bad he's missing the ape hangers..... Jon ICQ# 11193913 92 FZR600 *revised 6-21-99* http://www.come.to/fzrmofo http://www.angelfire.com/md/fzrmofo/index.html From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 26 01:10:14 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA18496 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 01:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA13228 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 01:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from radagast.wizard.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA13296 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 01:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc1-s23.wizard.net [206.161.15.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA14474; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 01:10:07 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Gary Foreman" , "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: Sunday (6/27/99) Ride to Skyline Drive Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 01:10:21 -0400 Message-ID: <000101bebf92$3092a580$350fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <002301bebf71$8e4a5b80$1406030a@gforeman.wch.adelphia.net> > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 9:17 PM > To: Dc-Cycles; Anita Lauro > Subject: RE: Sunday (6/27/99) Ride to Skyline Drive > > Anita, I was at the Front Royal entrance Wednesday Night, and the machine > would only take $10 for a vehicle, not $5, so I would check further if > peoples money is tight. There was no attendant, so I just turned around, > since I just wanted to go to the first outlook and take a few pictures. Last year it was $10 for cars and $5 for bicycles and motorcycles. They may have changed that, but we won't find out until Sunday. I did try to call today, but just got a recording with the same info as the website. Anita From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 26 09:28:00 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29489 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA14590 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:27:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA17483 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:27:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lcsa3 (mail.lcsa.org) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FDX0016LS1K4W@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:27:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:27:59 -0400 From: Gary Foreman Subject: RE: Sunday (6/27/99) Ride to Skyline Drive In-reply-to: <000101bebf92$3092a580$350fa1ce@anita> To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, Dc-Cycles Message-id: <000001bebfd7$b59ea720$1700a8c0@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Anita, please post your findings for me. Also confirm the $20 yearly pass. Since I live 15 miles from the FR Entrance, it would be worth it for me. > -----Original Message----- > From: Anita Lauro [mailto:2xracers@XXXXXX] > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 1:10 AM > To: Gary Foreman; Dc-Cycles > Subject: RE: Sunday (6/27/99) Ride to Skyline Drive > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 9:17 PM > > To: Dc-Cycles; Anita Lauro > > Subject: RE: Sunday (6/27/99) Ride to Skyline Drive > > > > Anita, I was at the Front Royal entrance Wednesday Night, and > the machine > > would only take $10 for a vehicle, not $5, so I would check further if > > peoples money is tight. There was no attendant, so I just > turned around, > > since I just wanted to go to the first outlook and take a few pictures. > > Last year it was $10 for cars and $5 for bicycles and > motorcycles. They may > have changed that, but we won't find out until Sunday. I did try to call > today, but just got a recording with the same info as the website. > > Anita > From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 26 10:41:05 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00692 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:40:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA14758 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:40:22 -0400 (EDT) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (zbig@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA18133 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:39:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id KAA07746; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:39:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906261439.KAA07746@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: Sunday (6/27/99) Ride to Skyline Drive To: fj1100@XXXXXX (Gary Foreman) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:39:29 -0400 (EDT) Cc: 2xracers@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <000001bebfd7$b59ea720$1700a8c0@loudoun.com> from "Gary Foreman" at Jun 26, 99 09:27:59 am Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > Anita, please post your findings for me. Also confirm the $20 yearly pass. > Since I live 15 miles from the FR Entrance, it would be worth it for me. > Yearly pass confirmed. I have it for last 3 years - if I visit Skyline 3 times a year, it is worthy it. _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 26 15:19:02 1999 Return-Path: dreamer@XXXXXX Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05020 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brat.knowhere.net (p43.a7.du.radix.net [207.192.132.43]) by mail1.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA28494 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906261918.PAA28494@mail1.radix.net> X-Sender: dreamer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:17:15 -0400 To: DC Cycles From: "Dawn G.T. Gibson" Subject: Skyline Drive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Having just returned from riding Skyline Drive from Front Royal to 211 I wanted to let those of you who are riding it tomorrow with Anita know that the motorcycle fee IS $5.00 It was really pretty up there today, breezy and cool. Nothing like this heat wave down here Beware to anyone riding down 211 from the drive, however. There is gravel on the road everywhere! Didn't do much for my pleasure in the turns I'll tell you! Hope all of you enjoy the ride. If anyone would d like to save $5.00 tomorrow, you're more than welcome to pick up my week pass. I'm in Alexandria. Dawn _____________________________ Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX '96 Virago 1100 Special, KnowMad From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 26 20:59:24 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10184 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:59:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA16191 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.wch.adelphia.net (alpha.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA25140 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gforeman ([24.48.14.116]) by alpha.wch.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id UAA02916 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:58:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary Foreman" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Did everyone have a good ride today? Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:57:23 -0400 Message-ID: <001201bec038$0418fa80$1406030a@gforeman.wch.adelphia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal I did about 170 miles today. Wish I could have met up with someone, but had to work a couple of hours this morning and didn't know what time it would be completed. After stopping at Fast Lane, took 50 to 15, 15 to Warrenton, 211 to whatever road that is that goes from 211 to 55 through Hume and Markham (if you want some twisties and a great ride...try this road!). Them 55 to Front Royal, went up the drive a ways and returned home in Winchester. Got a few pictures from Skyline Drive at: http://home.adelphia.net/~gforeman/ Click on RIDE PICS Kind of a real hazy day. Heat was a killer in town. Hope everyone else had a great ride today. Gary W. Foreman EMAIL: gforeman@XXXXXX WEB: http://www.fj1100.com '99-TL1000R | '88-KX250 | '85-FJ1100 From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 26 21:25:57 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10569 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 21:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc2-s14.wizard.net [206.161.15.90]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA28200 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 21:25:53 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Subject: Adding oil... Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 21:26:12 -0400 Message-ID: <000801bec03c$0aa04940$5b0fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Okay, I've determined that my bike is a little low on oil (slightly below the lower line in the view window). I want to add some oil before the ride tomorrow, so here's my question... the manual says that you should check the oil level after the engine is completely warmed up, then wait 10 minutes. Tomorrow morning my bike will be cold... am I correct in assuming that the oil level with read "higher" in a cold engine? So, maybe I should add some oil before I leave for Manassas, then check the level 10 minutes after I get there? And maybe add more oil at that time? Yeah, I know.. probably stupid questions! Anita PS - I don't know what kind of oil Cycle Sport has put in my bike.. (not synthetic, that much I'm sure of).. I've gotten suggestions of 10w40 and 10w50.. any reason to choose one over the other? Thanks! From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 26 21:52:35 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11050 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 21:52:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (granth@localhost) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id VAA01458; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 21:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 21:45:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Grant Heffernan To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Adding oil... In-Reply-To: <000801bec03c$0aa04940$5b0fa1ce@anita> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ah, nope... you can check it cold. As long as all the oil is drained into the pan, the indicated level will be correct (which is why the manual says to wait 10 minutes after it's been run to check.) ********************************* Grant Heffernan SCO Field Systems Engineer 2100 Reston Pkwy, Suite 102 Reston, VA 20191 (703) 715-8721 On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Anita Lauro wrote: > Okay, I've determined that my bike is a little low on oil (slightly below > the lower line in the view window). I want to add some oil before the ride > tomorrow, so here's my question... the manual says that you should check the > oil level after the engine is completely warmed up, then wait 10 minutes. > Tomorrow morning my bike will be cold... am I correct in assuming that the > oil level with read "higher" in a cold engine? So, maybe I should add some > oil before I leave for Manassas, then check the level 10 minutes after I get > there? And maybe add more oil at that time? Yeah, I know.. probably stupid > questions! > > Anita > > PS - I don't know what kind of oil Cycle Sport has put in my bike.. (not > synthetic, that much I'm sure of).. I've gotten suggestions of 10w40 and > 10w50.. any reason to choose one over the other? Thanks! > > From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 27 00:22:26 1999 Return-Path: lmeyer@XXXXXX Received: from mail4.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe4.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13386 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mgfairfax.rr.com ([24.28.195.247]) by mail4.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:20:37 -0400 Message-ID: <3775A783.9E658E0D@mgfairfax.rr.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 00:24:35 -0400 From: Larry Meyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Adding oil... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anita/Grant, I beg to respectfully and partially disagree. I don't think it matters how warm the engine is, but you have to run it for a bit to get the parts covered with oil. Generally, if the engine is warm, you can check it in a minute or two after shutting it off. If it's still cold, I'd imagine you have to wait longer for the oil to drain. If you don't run it first, all the oil will be in the pan and it should be well above the full level. I can't think of why you'd choose one oil over the other, considering how little you'll be adding. See you tomorrow, Larry Grant Heffernan wrote: > Ah, nope... you can check it cold. As long as all the oil is drained into > the pan, the indicated level will be correct (which is why the manual says > to wait 10 minutes after it's been run to check.) > > ********************************* > Grant Heffernan > SCO Field Systems Engineer > 2100 Reston Pkwy, Suite 102 > Reston, VA 20191 > (703) 715-8721 > > On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Anita Lauro wrote: > > > Okay, I've determined that my bike is a little low on oil (slightly below > > the lower line in the view window). I want to add some oil before the ride > > tomorrow, so here's my question... the manual says that you should check the > > oil level after the engine is completely warmed up, then wait 10 minutes. > > Tomorrow morning my bike will be cold... am I correct in assuming that the > > oil level with read "higher" in a cold engine? So, maybe I should add some > > oil before I leave for Manassas, then check the level 10 minutes after I get > > there? And maybe add more oil at that time? Yeah, I know.. probably stupid > > questions! > > > > Anita > > > > PS - I don't know what kind of oil Cycle Sport has put in my bike.. (not > > synthetic, that much I'm sure of).. I've gotten suggestions of 10w40 and > > 10w50.. any reason to choose one over the other? Thanks! > > > > From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 27 07:15:01 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA20520 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 07:14:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (granth@localhost) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id HAA12913; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 07:07:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 07:07:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Grant Heffernan To: Larry Meyer cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Adding oil... In-Reply-To: <3775A783.9E658E0D@mgfairfax.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, you're of course welcome to disagree, but I'll stick by my original post... I don' think the oil level should ever be well above the full mark. After changing my oil and letting the bike run to fill the filter with oil, then checking the level, I add oil to just under the full mark. Letting the bike sit overnight, checking again indicates no difference in oil level. I've seen the results of overfilled crankcases and prefer not to go that route. ********************************* Grant Heffernan SCO Field Systems Engineer 2100 Reston Pkwy, Suite 102 Reston, VA 20191 (703) 715-8721 On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Larry Meyer wrote: > Anita/Grant, > > I beg to respectfully and partially disagree. I don't think it matters how warm > the engine is, but you have to run it for a bit to get the parts covered with > oil. Generally, if the engine is warm, you can check it in a minute or two after > shutting it off. If it's still cold, I'd imagine you have to wait longer for the > oil to drain. > > If you don't run it first, all the oil will be in the pan and it should be well > above the full level. > > I can't think of why you'd choose one oil over the other, considering how little > you'll be adding. > > See you tomorrow, > Larry > > Grant Heffernan wrote: > > > Ah, nope... you can check it cold. As long as all the oil is drained into > > the pan, the indicated level will be correct (which is why the manual says > > to wait 10 minutes after it's been run to check.) > > > > ********************************* > > Grant Heffernan > > SCO Field Systems Engineer > > 2100 Reston Pkwy, Suite 102 > > Reston, VA 20191 > > (703) 715-8721 > > > > On Sat, 26 Jun 1999, Anita Lauro wrote: > > > > > Okay, I've determined that my bike is a little low on oil (slightly below > > > the lower line in the view window). I want to add some oil before the ride > > > tomorrow, so here's my question... the manual says that you should check the > > > oil level after the engine is completely warmed up, then wait 10 minutes. > > > Tomorrow morning my bike will be cold... am I correct in assuming that the > > > oil level with read "higher" in a cold engine? So, maybe I should add some > > > oil before I leave for Manassas, then check the level 10 minutes after I get > > > there? And maybe add more oil at that time? Yeah, I know.. probably stupid > > > questions! > > > > > > Anita > > > > > > PS - I don't know what kind of oil Cycle Sport has put in my bike.. (not > > > synthetic, that much I'm sure of).. I've gotten suggestions of 10w40 and > > > 10w50.. any reason to choose one over the other? Thanks! > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 27 13:47:08 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm06sm.pmm.cw.net (pm06sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26944 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr51-dialup146.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.198.22]) by PM06SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35324) with SMTP id <0FDZ00JVHYPL9S@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:46:34 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 13:46:11 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: Adding oil... To: DC Cycles Message-id: <002f01bec0a3$6b583e20$16c63ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: > Well, you're of course welcome to disagree, but I'll stick by my original > post... I don' think the oil level should ever be well above the full > mark. After changing my oil and letting the bike run to fill the filter > with oil, then checking the level, I add oil to just under the full mark. > Letting the bike sit overnight, checking again indicates no difference in > oil level. I've seen the results of overfilled crankcases and prefer not > to go that route. > Grant Heffernan Checking the oil hot or cold really doesn't matter. The difference you can see is minimal. Grant is correct, the last thing you want to do is overfill the oil. Better to leave it a little low than too much. Overfilling is a good way to blow a main seal, cause foaming and loose power from the drag on the crank. No benefits for overfilling, only bad things happen...... Jon From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 27 16:29:49 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA29393 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:29:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id 2YWNa24185 (14429) for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:28:28 EDT Subject: Misano WSB To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 I was at my house in Italy this weekend (have business here next week) and I noticed the Misano WSB was on this weekend. Misano is about 300 Kms. away so i went today (Sunday) and got to see the second Super Sport race and the second WSB race. The racing was great, these guys are pretty fast. I got a paddock pass from a friend (who edits a weekly bike mag here) and got to see the pit area, very clean. But I had the best time driving towards Milan (I have a meeting tomorrow). There must have been 20,000 bikes at the race and they all left before the side car races with me in my little Opel Corsa rent-a-car. The traffic was intense on the autostrada with people going back home from the Adriatic beaches. I had forgotten how we rode in Italy on the autostrada and it was fun watching bikes doing 130+ in the breakdown lane and between cars (lane splitting). Plenty of ZX-9Rs but many more 916s, Monsters, ST-2/4s and every other bike was a Monster of some sort (600,750 and 900). Felt myself wishing I had my ZX-9R here. There quite a few R-1s and R-6s too as well as GSXRs with the bumble bee tails (like Collins) all flying down the autostrada. There were two Hayabusas with British plates but they got passed by wild Italians on lesser bikes. As I said there were at least 20,000 bikes at the event and I got passed by a few hundred on the autostrada, great fun. Oh, between us guys, I met a very nice girl from Rome whose boyfriend was wrenching for one of the national teams. She had just started going out with the fellow and wanted to learn about motorcycle racing. We watched the WSB race together and she got concerned when Haga passed Corser (she is a Ducati fan). I told her not to worry because he (Haga) would crash trying to stay with Fogarty. Guess what, Haga crashed. She thinks I'm a genius, hahahaha. Anyway, after the race I wanted to get away fast to avoid the heaviest traffic so I said bye and she actually stopped me to get my name. I gave her my business card, thank God it doesn't have my home number on it. LOL Ciao from Modena (didn't make it to Milan this evening, too much traffic). Fred From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 27 20:15:35 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA03067 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:15:34 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id 2AWa023474 (4197); Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:14:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <82b36e17.24a81876@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:14:46 EDT Subject: Re: If you thought Leon's Kawi's were crazy.......look here. To: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 6/25/1999 11:41:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Eternity23@XXXXXX writes: << This just rolled across the CBR list..... http://www.dealsgap.com/ Click on the button that says pic of the month. Some people..... -Sean Jordan >> What the HELL was that? Scary. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 27 20:28:22 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA03223 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:28:21 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id 2LAUa09302 (4322) for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:27:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <235d699b.24a81b75@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:27:33 EDT Subject: Shannon? To: DC-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sorry for the bandwidth, but I'm look for Shannon Tansey(?). We were supposed to meet today, but she never showed. I just want to make sure everything's ok. Rob VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 27 20:46:59 1999 Return-Path: tansey@XXXXXX Received: from links.magenta.com (tansey@XXXXXX [151.199.66.150]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA03543 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by links.magenta.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA09522; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:43:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Tansey To: NJitzul@XXXXXX cc: DC-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Shannon? In-Reply-To: <235d699b.24a81b75@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: > Sorry for the bandwidth, but I'm look for Shannon Tansey(?). We were supposed > to meet today, but she never showed. I just want to make sure everything's > ok. A LOT of wine with friends on a Saturday night does NOT make for a good mood on Sunday. :) Sorry folks - just didn't wake up in time. A night ride this week maybe? Who's game? Shannon From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 27 21:15:59 1999 Return-Path: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (zbig@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA04046 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:15:57 -0400 (EDT) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id VAA08980; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906280115.VAA08980@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: Shannon? To: tansey@XXXXXX (Tansey) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Cc: DC-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: from "Tansey" at Jun 27, 99 08:43:50 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > > On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: > > > Sorry for the bandwidth, but I'm look for Shannon Tansey(?). We were supposed > > to meet today, but she never showed. I just want to make sure everything's > > ok. > > A LOT of wine with friends on a Saturday night does NOT make for a good > mood on Sunday. :) Sorry folks - just didn't wake up in time. > > A night ride this week maybe? Who's game? > > Shannon > Sure, why not ? >From where to where ? _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 27 23:34:36 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA06112 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:34:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA20429 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.wch.adelphia.net (alpha.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA11985 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gforeman (surf189.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.189]) by alpha.wch.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id XAA19651; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:32:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary Foreman" To: "Yamahafj@XXXXXX" , "DC-Cycles Mailing List" , "Tl1000" Subject: Want some COOL Motorcycle Video files? Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:32:12 -0400 Message-ID: <000101bec116$cf4fb020$1406030a@gforeman.wch.adelphia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal FTP to ftp.motorcycle.com and go to /pub/videos area. Lots to choose from. Look at team2.mpg and tell me that last fellow didn't have a streak in his shorts when he stopped! WARNING These are big files, not for slow connections for sure. Gary W. Foreman EMAIL: fj1100@XXXXXX WEB: http://www.fj1100.com '99-TL1000R | '88-KX250 | '85-FJ1100 From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 27 23:56:59 1999 Return-Path: kamuelle@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA06462 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:56:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kamuelle (207-172-75-13.s13.tnt3.man.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.75.13]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA12212 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990628000804.00989990@128.173.16.30> X-Sender: kamuelle@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:08:04 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Karl Mueller Subject: problems with fuel (ex500) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As some of you may have noticed if you went on today's ride to skyline drive, i had a few problems (my thanks to the green kawi 900 and the other guy who stopped with me). apparently my ex500 thought it was out of gas when it had a full tank. Eventually, I did manage to ride it home on one cylander (thanks to leon). Now to my question...why did this happen? Well, i just installed a jet kit (Factory stage 1) and a K&N stock airbox filter. I also installed an inline fuel filter, which flows plenty of gas thru it. Now, it could be any of these, but what is it most likely to be? (installing the fuel filter invloved adding a bunch of fuel hose, the route from the petcock to the carbs is quite cramped, so it invloves snaking the fuel hose around). I'm gonna call Factory tomorrow to see if they can help, and I noticed that in the uber-helpful blue paper that came with the kit, SRAxis contributed settings (I think i remember someone from SRAxis on this listserv..). Oh, and one other thing.. (non-moto) many of you are IT people, and I was wondering if you knew of any summer openings for a 2nd year CS major with 1 1/2 years actual experience in tech support. THANKS! --Karl Mueller 89 EX500 (naked) From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 00:44:56 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07268 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.157]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:29:46 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Karl Mueller" , Subject: RE: problems with fuel (ex500) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:34:45 -0400 Message-ID: <000901bec11f$8c8313a0$9d80e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990628000804.00989990@128.173.16.30> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > I also installed an inline fuel filter, which flows plenty of gas thru it. > Now, it could be any of these, but what is it most likely to be? > (installing the fuel filter invloved adding a bunch of fuel hose, > the route > from the petcock to the carbs is quite cramped, so it invloves snaking the > fuel hose around). The first thing I'd ask is: what did you do to get it running again? That might give a clue. My eliminator has/had that problem. A vent line from the tank was clogged. Not sure exactly why, but it made the vacuum petcock not work correctly. Unclog ventline, problem went away. Or open the gas tank and release the pressure. Have a similar problem on the Wing. But I'm 99% sure that from a knackered fuel pickup tube not getting the bit of gas at the bottom. My guess for likely culprit: very fine mesh in the filter causes it to get gummed up quickly. It's a 10 year old bike: who knows what kind of funk is swilling around the tank. If all of your lines are uncrimped, that could be worth a shot. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 01:21:02 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA07946 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id BAA21043 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:20:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:20:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Adding oil... In-Reply-To: <002f01bec0a3$6b583e20$16c63ea6@0302104396168270> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The thing to do is.... do what the owners manual says. When a bike sits overnight (is cold) all the oil is in the pan (or at least 99% of it). When you start the bike and run the motor, that oil gets sent through the motor, thus leaving less in the pan until it fully drains back down. Depending on the bike, you're supposed to check the oil one way or the other... the wrong way is generally a bad thing and most likely you'll end up putting too much oil in. - Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 08:12:42 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA15275 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A6B311CC00A8; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:12:38 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990628081106.00bf2650@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:12:34 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: problems with fuel (ex500) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990628000804.00989990@128.173.16.30> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:08 AM 6/28/99 , Karl Mueller wrote: >As some of you may have noticed if you went on today's ride to skyline >drive, i had a few problems (my thanks to the green kawi 900 and the other >guy who stopped with me). apparently my ex500 thought it was out of gas >when it had a full tank. Eventually, I did manage to ride it home on one >cylander (thanks to leon). Now to my question...why did this happen? Well, >i just installed a jet kit (Factory stage 1) and a K&N stock airbox filter. >I also installed an inline fuel filter, which flows plenty of gas thru it. >Now, it could be any of these, but what is it most likely to be? First thing I'd check is that there isn't a kink in the fuel hose - adding hose can be a problem, especially if it replaces fancy molded rubber hose from the factory. Then check for fuel in each carb, then check if you did something to the empty carb. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 08:12:42 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA15274 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A6B611CC00A8; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:12:38 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990628080714.00b91d80@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:09:29 -0400 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Adding oil... In-Reply-To: <002f01bec0a3$6b583e20$16c63ea6@0302104396168270> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Well, you're of course welcome to disagree, but I'll stick by my original > > post... I don' think the oil level should ever be well above the full > > mark. After changing my oil and letting the bike run to fill the filter > > with oil, then checking the level, I add oil to just under the full mark. > > Letting the bike sit overnight, checking again indicates no difference in > > oil level. I've seen the results of overfilled crankcases and prefer not > > to go that route. > > Grant Heffernan Check your owner's manual for the correct way to check the oil in your bike. My Honda's require that the engine be run for a few minutes, then stopped, then wait a few minutes to check the oil. The BMW has a sight glass and you just check it when it's on the centerstand and not running. But even at 85,000 miles it never needs any oil anyway. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 08:23:25 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA15451 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc2-s2.wizard.net [206.161.15.78]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA10361; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:23:29 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Tansey" , Cc: Subject: RE: Shannon? Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:23:41 -0400 Message-ID: <000601bec161$0e7e4fa0$4e0fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Weren't you the one who wanted a slower/shorter ride on Sunday? Robert was going to go on the Skyline Ride but volunteered to lead a different ride at your request! I hope some other people showed up to ride with Robert, otherwise he kind of wasted his time, didn't he? People who volunteer to lead rides are few and far between... best not to piss them off! :-) Anita > -----Original Message----- > From: Tansey [mailto:tansey@XXXXXX] > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 1999 8:44 PM > To: NJitzul@XXXXXX > Cc: DC-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Shannon? > >> A LOT of wine with friends on a Saturday night does NOT make for a good > mood on Sunday. :) Sorry folks - just didn't wake up in time. > > A night ride this week maybe? Who's game? > > Shannon > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 09:09:35 1999 Return-Path: wowbager@XXXXXX Received: from stmpy.cais.net (stmpy.cais.net [199.0.216.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA16130 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wowbager (dynamic93.cais.com [207.226.56.93]) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12082 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990628090517.006bdb5c@mail.dc.net> X-Sender: wowbager@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:05:17 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike Subject: Thanx Anita Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just a quick Thanx to Anita for a very nice ride yesterday. I hope our friend with feul trouble gets it sorted out. Mike B. 98 ZX900R From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 09:23:28 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailprime.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA16616 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:23:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net [208.220.24.145] by tidalwave.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A7614C8010E; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:23:45 -0400 Message-ID: <37777733.2A7745D7@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:22:59 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Mueller CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: problems with fuel (ex500) References: <3.0.6.32.19990628000804.00989990@128.173.16.30> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Karl Mueller wrote: > apparently my ex500 thought it was out of gas > when it had a full tank. Eventually, I did manage to ride it home on one > cylander (thanks to leon). Now to my question...why did this happen? Hi Karl! The extra fuel line might be your problem. If the hose bends too much, it will pinch off, shutting off the fuel supply. Same thing goes for the vacuum line (the EX500 has a vacuum petcock, right?). Does the bike run ok when you switch to PRIME? Hork -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth 1998 Concours - His - BugSlayer II - VA Plate: BGSLYR 1999 Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi (Knee-High) "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 10:23:00 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA17905 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Anita.dlt.com ([199.4.241.102]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA22573 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:23:05 -0400 Message-Id: <199906281423.KAA22573@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:23:22 -0400 Subject: Re: Thanx Anita Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.1.32.19990628090517.006bdb5c@mail.dc.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) On 28 Jun 99, at 9:05, Mike wrote: > Just a quick Thanx to Anita for a very nice ride yesterday. > I hope our friend with feul trouble gets it sorted out. Thanks, Mike... I had a good time myself! :-) The highlight of the day was definitely seeing "Papa Bear" standing by the road up on Skyline Drive. Last year I saw a baby black bear off in the woods while on a ride.. it was maybe the size of a black lab. Very cute! :-) Yesterday, I saw Papa Bear.. it was standing maybe 10 feet from the road, pretty much right out in the open. It was *huge*... I got a nice long look at it as I went by.. all I can say is that I'm glad he/she wasn't *in* the road. Can you imagine coming around a corner and seeing a big black bear standing in the road? Yikes! At least they don't jump around like deer! All in all, a great ride! Anita From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 10:28:52 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18024 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:28:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with ESMTP id KAA04195; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990628102926.00a73b10@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:30:18 -0400 To: SV650@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: suspension Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Does anyone know any suspension shops in the Reston, VA area??? I'm having a hard time dealing with the mushy front end on the SV, so I'd like to get her set up properly. TIA ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://ussales/granth From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 10:32:59 1999 Return-Path: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bmdo.mcri.com (root@[207.124.52.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18120 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:32:56 -0400 (EDT) From: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from jnewman ([192.168.13.162]) by bmdo.mcri.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA00833 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:35:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199906281335.JAA00833@bmdo.mcri.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:30:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: problems with fuel (ex500) Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4.2.0.58.19990628081106.00bf2650@mail.toward.com> References: <3.0.6.32.19990628000804.00989990@128.173.16.30> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Subject: Re: problems with fuel (ex500) > At 12:08 AM 6/28/99 , Karl Mueller wrote: > >As some of you may have noticed if you went on today's ride to skyline > >drive, i had a few problems (my thanks to the green kawi 900 and the other > >guy who stopped with me). apparently my ex500 thought it was out of gas > >when it had a full tank. Eventually, I did manage to ride it home on one > >cylander (thanks to leon). Now to my question...why did this happen? Well, > >i just installed a jet kit (Factory stage 1) and a K&N stock airbox filter. > >I also installed an inline fuel filter, which flows plenty of gas thru it. > >Now, it could be any of these, but what is it most likely to be? > You might want to look at that new inline fuel filter... Sometimes they seem like they allow fuel to flow freely, but in reality, it restricts the flow of fuel just enough to cause the bike to "pretend" it is running out of gas. Remove it, splice the fuel line back together, and run the bike around for a while to see if this might be your problem... Learned this one first hand... Hope it helps, -John Newman 88 FZR 400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 10:46:30 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18389 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Anita.dlt.com ([199.4.241.102]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA25592 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:46:36 -0400 Message-Id: <199906281446.KAA25592@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:46:48 -0400 Subject: Repost: Camping Trip 7/9-7/12 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) A couple people on the ride yesterday said they were interesting in the camping trip to Boyer, WV... so I thought I'd repost the info in case anyone else is interested in going! When: Friday, July 9th through Monday, July 12th. You don't have to come down for all four days. It's only 200 miles from the DC area to Boyer, so you could easily knock a day off either end. It's also close enough to come home if the weather turns rainy. Cost: $8/night for camping The campground was very nice.. not a lot of shade, but the camping area is level and grassy. The bathrooms were very clean.. surprisingly nice for a campground. There is a restaurant on-site with *great* food, and it's open from 8 am to 8 pm. Here's a picture of the campground from the GPZ rally: http://www.wizard.net/~2xracers/rally/campground_2.jpg Nearby attractions include the Cass Scenic Railroad, Snowshoe Mountain resort, and the Highland Scenic Highway. From Boyer it's about 300 miles round trip to the New River Gorge Bridge. We rode down to the old bridge, and got some great view of the new bridge: http://www.wizard.net/~2xracers/rally/under_bridge_1.jpg http://www.wizard.net/~2xracers/rally/under_bridge_2.jpg And, of course.. great roads! From Boyer it's easy to put together a 150-300 mile ride that includes some great twisties, sweepers, mountain roads, and valley roads. Pavement was great for the most part, just need to watch out for the dreaded right hand turn gravel. Anyhow, if you have any questions please feel free to email me! Anita From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 11:02:17 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA18678 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user134.anent.com [208.195.115.134]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA03899; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:59:27 -0400 Message-ID: <008401bec177$33b19e60$8673c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" , "Grant Heffernan" References: <4.2.0.58.19990628102926.00a73b10@fedsco.sco.com> Subject: Re: suspension Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:52:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I'd say Fast Lane in Chantilly would be your best bet. www.fastlanecycles.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Heffernan To: ; Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 10:30 AM Subject: suspension > Does anyone know any suspension shops in the Reston, VA area??? I'm having > a hard time dealing with the mushy front end on the SV, so I'd like to get > her set up properly. > TIA > > > ********************************* > Grant M. Heffernan > Field Systems Engineer > The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. > Reston, VA 20191 > ph: (703) 715-8721 > http://ussales/granth From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 12:58:37 1999 Return-Path: mjay@XXXXXX Received: from resolver.treev.com ([38.183.229.13]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20842 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:58:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tralfaz.herndon.treev.com (treev.com [10.1.1.24]) by resolver.treev.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21685; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tralfaz.treev.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:02:18 -0400 Message-ID: <22F6F36CA6A3D111B95A006097177427D4F313@tralfaz.treev.com> From: Michael Jay To: "'Karl Mueller'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: problems with fuel (ex500) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:02:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Hi Karl, What happens when you drain the carbs? Does each carb have gas when you drain it? What does the gas look like, is there any crud from the filter's initial use? Does the filter have a flow direction, and is it installed in the direction required? Are any of the lines crimped, that is, is there a kink in any of the lines? Also, are there any air leaks between the airbox and any of the carbs? What do the plugs look like on each piston? Any look kind of "oily or sooty" which may mean carbonized from too rich mix, any look kind of "white powder" which may mean too lean, or kind of a "dry tan" which is likely just right. NOTE: plug verbiage is from a BP7ES perspective on a nearly 20-year old bike, that is, my Seca. Just a from the hip response, from one of the "barn stormers" on the list. I have had to drain the carbs several times in hopes of avoiding the rebuild of my XJ's carbs. Can you say varnish removal--thank you petroleum distillate. Good luck, and good hunting, Mike Jay 82 XJ750RJ From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 13:31:12 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA21532 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:31:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:29:18 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'MARRC'" , "'VFR'" , "'thane scott stielow'" , "'Jeff Ozman'" , "'Chris Ford'" , "'dc'" Subject: Get this.. the 'story' from Fast Lane Cycles.. Be Warned. (long) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:29:12 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I've recently had an unsavory experience with FastLane, and I see it as my obligation to inform as many people as I can so you can make your own decisions. Hopefully if enough people take notice and ask the shop about it, or mention it.. something will be done and noone will have to go through what I have been through. Ok, the bike was dropped off 5 weeks ago by Collin Fagin- he was told it'd be a week before it was looked at. I called 8 days later and was told 'We're waiting on parts, but let me check on the bike anyway'.. then 'oh, we haven't looked at it yet, it'll probably be another week'. I call ANOTHER week later 'We're waiting on parts, but let me go check anyway'... 'the carbs need rebuild'. "That's funny.. they were freshly rebuilt when I bought them - well, just do the work, and get the bike tuned" - These carbs were purchased from the service manager at another shop - someone I fully trust, if only because in the 3 years I've known him, everything he's told me has been spot on, and everything he's sold me has been as he told me. Ok.. So, anyway.. I wait ANOTHER week, all the while getting a little antsy, and call back 'they're looking at the bike right now.. it should be ready in a day or two' "ok, I'll call back tomorrow"... I call the next day 'It's still not ready, try next Monday or Tuesday'. Ok, so by this time they've supposedly 'rebuilt the carbs' - which would indicate that they were fully disassembled and cleaned. Any parts that weren't up to par would be replaced, and they should be 100% operational, correct? yea right.. I lay off for a couple days, and then call again - this time getting someone competent on the phone 'I'm not sure what's going on with the bike, hold on.. let me talk with the person who's working on it.' - a few minutes 'Apparently, there diaphragms on the front 2 carbs are old, and look like they're leaking air. Those are $50 apiece, and we're waiting on them now' .. ok, fine.. I let this person know that the motorcycle is my ONLY means of transportation, and they've now had it for very near a month with no solid date of when it should be complete. He says it should be ready this week... So, 6/24/99 when I shot off my Spam in reply to their horsepower shoot-out, Dave Cross gets to talking with me about them.. he forwarded the letter to Rick Beggs.. and that spawned a return e-mail to me e-mail to me. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Beggs [mailto:fastlanecycles@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 7:40 PM Subject: brian we are still waiting for you to bring us your other carbs with the good parts, i have told you we need them, you said you had them we need the carb slides Rick Beggs Fast Lane Cycles 4215-B Walney Road Chantilly, VA 20151 rick@XXXXXX fastlanecycles@XXXXXX http://www.fastlanecycles.com Tel: 703-818-8890 Funny.. he's asking for a set of stock carbs in this message.. this is the FIRST mention of it, yet he uses a condescending attitude saying that the hold up has been waiting on me. He says he needs the use of the slides on my replaced carbs.. well, those slides happen to be 34mm in size while the current carbs are using 38mm slides - I don't think the 2 are compatible (you'd think he'd know this.. I told him in a letter when the bike was dropped off!) At times in-between.. Both Collin and Brian Roach dropped in on the shop to do business and check on my bike - the information they gave me didn't necessarily reflect what I was being told on the phone either (and I CERTAINLY trust those 2 more than I do a shop) I went to pick up the VFR on Sat, 6/26/99 with Tom Zell.. Get to talking with Rick Beggs and I learn (for the first time - to the shops credit) that they typically do NOT work on bikes older than 1990, if they do work on those bikes, they require a $500 downpayment.. and there's only one mechanic in the shop that works on older bikes.. and he's apparently booked 2~3 months ahead (that lead-time contradicts what Collin told me when he was talking with the mechanic). My bike was returned to me, no charge was applied.. I feel that was the right thing to do - and give credit to Rick for handling the situation correctly. Unfortunately, he HAD to do that because the people he has working for him seem incompetent (not all of them - one of the desk guys though.. whew, he needs to go back to flipping burgers at McD's). My bike was NOT in the assembled condition that it arrived at the shop. Ok, fine, I told them to just stop touching it on the Thursday before. Damage assessment when I returned home and got to work on fixing it was that the radiator was missing 4 mounting bolts, 1 coil was missing 1 mounting bolt, the carb-boots (leading to the engine) were damaged (these being brand-new items when they went to the shop). 2 springs that are essential to the adjustment/tuning of the carbs were MIA. My air-box had a mounting tab broken off with the screw cross-threaded into the nut. The bike had Obviously sat outside, and in rain by the appearance of all the rust. So, basically.. I gave my bike to FastLane Cycles for some dyno-tuning. They held it for 5 weeks, lost a hand-full of bolts, damaged other new parts on the bike, jerked me around on the phone (but only if *I* called them.. because they don't make courtesy calls to their customers), and left my bike out to the elements. Now, I don't expect anyone to care for my bike like I do - but this constitutes outright abuse in my book. I feel that this is a piss-poor way to run a shop. About the only way they'll change is if suddenly people stop coming to the shop.. or past customers voice their concern. Basically, informing people who might have a care for their bikes and how they're treated. Cross-post this everywhere you can imagine that might reflect the shop. Maybe with this kind of 'stimulation', something will get done. Feel free to let people talk with me too.. to many times stories like this are 'a friend of a friend' type thing and I'd be more than happy to act as a direct source... b_mccoy@XXXXXX Brian McCoy Note: This only really applies to their Service dept. Rick Beggs has been nothing but a pleasure to talk with at the track, in the shop and he really tries to do the right thing. He often helps new racers out, and seems to try and do the right thing with aftermarket accessories. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 14:11:10 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA22364 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:11:08 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id OAA29393; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:12:09 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma019139; Mon, 28 Jun 99 14:05:02 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FE1009M6UBQJP@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525679E.00632513 ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:02:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:02:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Get this.. the 'story' from Fast Lane Cycles.. Be Warned. (long) To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525679E.00632F3B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL As another data point, I was at the shop one afternoon and witnessed the mechanics drop a customer's bike while they were moving it. I also had an unpleasant experience trying to order some Hein Gericke boots through them. I eventually gave up and got a refund of the deposit I had given them. Rick eventually did the right thing, but only after a lot of nagging on my part and a couple of blatant lies on his part. So much for giving local shops the business over mail order. Rick knows his stuff, but the business isn't run very well in my opinion. 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From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 14:16:18 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA22529 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr51-dialup304.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.198.184]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35317) with SMTP id <0FE100DPXUQ143@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:15:39 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:15:13 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: Adding oil... To: Louis E Tweed Cc: DC Cycles Message-id: <005c01bec170$a4b3d760$b8c63ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <19990628.102624.-971683.0.ltweed@juno.com> > Welllll, kinda. If you fill to the point that the crankshaft is churning > the oil in the sump area then you have a problem. I always have more oil > than what is set as "maximum" by the site glass. I fill my engine until > the oil shows a bubble of air at the top of the site glass, when the > engine is idling. I do this because I know that the oil isn't getting > churned, and my GTS has an oil level light not an oil pressure light. True, but you can't tell when the crank is churning in the oil by the level in the site glass. You'll have to explain to me how you know exactly. The site glass isn't as accurate as a dip stick IMO. If you had an oil pressure light and it went on, you'd be S.O.L. > The GTS engine burns oil slightly (as do most other Genesis motors), and > the oil can be pumped into the head faster than it can drain back to the > drain pan (only over 5k RPM, and only to a point) and consequently can > trip the oil light. I have a Genesis motor and it burns a little oil under hard use, but the oil level light won't come on unless it's about 1 quart down. Maybe the GTS has a sensitive oil level sensor. > So yes if you overfill to the point that the oil is churned by the > crankshaft you will have definite problems, but if you don't over - over > fill you should be ok. > Louis The point was to not overfill, better to leave it a little low than over. Especially if you don't know where exactly "full" is. Jon From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 14:36:40 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA22935 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 28 Jun 1999 18:36:39 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA00729 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:36:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Get this.. the 'story' from Fast Lane Cycles.. Be Warned. (long) In-Reply-To: <8525679E.00632F3B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Rick knows his stuff, but the business isn't run very well in my opinion. > > Chris Weaver Ditto here. If Rick's shop had employee's of Rick's caliber, it'd be great. Rick apparently isn't afraid to yell (I've seen him get mad when customers get crappy service) but on the other hand, I see the same people stick around. I think Rick may not be comfortable firing people, or he has no alternative prospects for employees. If you can somehow get Rick to work on a bike, it will be timely, done right, and everything will be great. If not, and it's anything other than a chain adjustment, pray to the gods of crappy service. They will answer. My buddy ordered an ignition switch for a '89 FZR 600. Took them 5 weeks, and it turns out that they had it for 4 weeks, just the guy he kept getting on the phone was too lazy to check the shelf. Fear that. Alex. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 15:01:37 1999 Return-Path: deejack@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f88.hotmail.com [216.32.181.88]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23475 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 52119 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jun 1999 19:01:02 -0000 Message-ID: <19990628190102.52118.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.209.231.152 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:01:02 PDT X-Originating-IP: [208.209.231.152] From: "Deitra L.Jackson" To: 2xracers@XXXXXX, tansey@XXXXXX, NJitzul@XXXXXX Cc: DC-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Shannon? Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:01:02 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >People who volunteer to lead rides are few and far between... best not to >piss them off! :-) > >Anita Ooops! I had wanted to participate but I had to go out of town to pick up the college-kid on Sunday (she'd changed her mind from Saturday to Sunday at the last moment). I apologize if my absence caused a problem. ----- D Deitra L. Jackson aka ProudMom 1989 Suzuki GS500E aka DreamWeaver AMA #681266 _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 15:11:26 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA23646 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10yglU-0005nH-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:08:24 -0400 Received: from david500 ([209.70.174.26]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA02824 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:11:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002d01bec19a$d0a437a0$1aae46d1@david500.bdanet.com> From: "Dave Cross" To: "'dc'" Subject: 187hp Suzuki Bandit Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:17:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 That's what won the Horsepower Shootout at Fast Lane Cycles. Did I mention that it was turbo charged? Lowest horsepower went to an 8.7hp Vespa. Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 15:39:30 1999 Return-Path: matte@XXXXXX Received: from mail.savvis.net (mail.savvis.net [209.83.194.44]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA24225 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:39:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Nova2.sales.savvis.net (h230-89-217-199.sales.savvis.net [199.217.89.230]) by mail.savvis.net (8.8.8/Savvis_V0.4) with SMTP id OAA09970; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:38:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:36:09 -0400 Message-ID: <01BEC17B.F1ADF400.matte@savvis.net> From: "Matthew R. Elliott" Reply-To: "matte@XXXXXX" To: "'Dave Cross'" , "'dc'" Subject: RE: 187hp Suzuki Bandit Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:36:07 -0400 Organization: Savvis Communications X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Isn't a bandit a 600? How the hell do you hang on to something like that? Speaking of speed, what are the thoughts on the list of a VMAX? I've read all the 'mad max' articles, etc. How is it, *really* and how much maintenance is the bike? Thanks, looking to go from the Nighthawk to one, they feel extremely comfortable to sit on! Thanks, Matt -----Original Message----- From: Dave Cross [SMTP:dave@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 3:17 PM To: 'dc' Subject: 187hp Suzuki Bandit That's what won the Horsepower Shootout at Fast Lane Cycles. Did I mention that it was turbo charged? Lowest horsepower went to an 8.7hp Vespa. Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 16:00:53 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA24695 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:00:51 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id QAA16909; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:01:42 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma016025; Mon, 28 Jun 99 16:00:48 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FE1007PWZMROX@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:02:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525679E.006DA30A ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:57:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:56:18 -0400 Subject: RE: 187hp Suzuki Bandit To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525679E.006DA277.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Suzuki sells a 1200cc version of the Bandit also. I think this is probably the one Dave was talking about. They are commonly tweaked for enormous horsepower. Chris Weaver '98 VTR 1000 From: "Matthew R. Elliott" Isn't a bandit a 600? How the hell do you hang on to something like that? ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 17:07:11 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25815 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:07:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-196-251.s251.tnt5.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.196.251]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08415; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 99 16:54:37 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: yesterday's ride/this sat To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: ges6@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Was real nice, even if I ended by slabbing from Marshall to Mclean on 66. Still saw some nice roads, managed to avoid the rain on skyline for the most part. Hope I didn't slow anyone up too bad. Also, just as a reminder, this saturday I'm doing a ride, nominally HSTA(cause that's what I'm calling it) but all more than welcome. Meet at the Old country Buffet off of 243 Business South(aka sudley rd) in Manassas at 8:30 for breakfast, 9:30 kickstands up. This is in the shopping center on the left as you come from 66, a Giant and a Barnes and noble are also there. I'll have a decent number of route sheets so everyone isn't tied into one pace. Hope to see everyone there. Rough route is as follows: (ie lots of detours from the main roads for ones that are nicer) west from Manassas to 211, 211 over the ridge, 340 south to 64, back across the ridge and work back up. There are a bunch of side roads I'm not mentioning. SHould be a nice change from skyline though, all the roads are in good shape or were a week ago. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/28/99 HSTA/AMA 4:54:37 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 18:51:50 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27584 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:51:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Anita.dlt.com ([199.4.241.102]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA02774 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:52:02 -0400 Message-Id: <199906282252.SAA02774@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:52:20 -0400 Subject: Rides from Boyer (Camping Trip) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Okay, so I've been playing and not working (again).. here are two possible ride routes out of Boyer... notice the nice twisty roads? :-) http://www.wizard.net/~2xracers/rally/Boyer_Route_1.jpg http://www.wizard.net/~2xracers/rally/Boyer_Route_2.jpg Anita From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 19:36:11 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailprime.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA28338 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:36:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net [208.220.25.117] by tidalwave.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A6FE548043E; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:36:30 -0400 Message-ID: <377806D0.D8D58C03@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:35:44 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Concours Owners Group Subject: Re: 99' For Sale References: <000101bec1a5$210cbc80$056cafce@745023705> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tracy tells me there's a pristine '99 Concours sitting at Coleman Powersport Woodbridge, VA with 100 miles on the clock. She didn't have the heart to ask how much they wanted for the Barney bike. I suppose I could always offer to ride it to your doorstep anywhere on this continent if you negotiate a deal, just pay for gas and a trip home for me! :) Please? :) Horkster -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth 1998 Concours - His - BugSlayer II - VA Plate: BGSLYR 1999 Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi (Knee-High) "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 22:36:53 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01413 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:36:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user107.anent.com [208.195.115.107]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA02284 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:34:01 -0400 Message-ID: <004701bec1d8$3c04d940$6b73c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: VFR800 with K&N Dyno Results Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:36:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Okay, here it is. As far as I can tell, on the dyno, there is no difference between the stock air filter and a K&N filter in my '98 VFR800. Dyno charts can be viewed at: ftp.wheatintl.com/incoming/vfr-list/Dyno%20Results courtesy of the generosity of Mike T. This bike has 11,000 miles on it and is equipped with a Staintune high right all stainless exhaust slip-on, spud free. The snorkel has been removed. The factory exhaust header has been coated with Jet-Hot coating www.jet-hot.com which is supposed to work kind of like header wrap. It keeps the heat in the pipe and increases scavenging. It also supposedly reduces turbulence inside the pipe. This same bike last year made 100.2hp before the header coating. I haven't ridden it much since sunday but I couldn't tell any difference in the 25 miles home from the dyno. YMMV Bruce '98 VFR800 'Tronix' From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 28 23:25:54 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02245 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.117]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:20:47 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: 187hp Suzuki Bandit Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:25:59 -0400 Message-ID: <000f01bec1df$1b90e120$9d80e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <8525679E.006DA277.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > Suzuki sells a 1200cc version of the Bandit also. I think this is probably > the one Dave was talking about. They are commonly tweaked for enormous > horsepower. Not surprising that there should be tons of speed parts for the big Bandit, being based on the GSXR-1100. Still... I'd imagine that 187 HP is a check that that frame and suspension might not be able to cash... ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 01:36:03 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA04515 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 01:36:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id 2DIKa29801 (321) for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 01:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 01:34:46 EDT Subject: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Well, sorta. It's a virtual shopping spree. I saw a H-D Fatboy with "$2k invested in chrome" which made me sick. My question to all of you is: What would you buy if you had $2000 to spend on your personal machines? You can buy parts, labour, accesories. (You couldn't use the money for a new bike, or a trailer.) Clothing, ('stiches, helmets, Widder/Gerbing stuff), things like that. Or paint and body work. Thought this would be an interesting/fun thread to start. Mine list should be up in a bit.....oh, another thought. If you have multiple bikes to buy stuff for, you can either spend $2000 per bike, or share the 2k between your bikes. -Sean Jordan '93 CBR1000F From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 07:33:04 1999 Return-Path: twg@XXXXXX Received: from mongoose.slip.net (mongoose.slip.net [207.171.193.14]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA10879 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:33:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slip-3 ([207.171.193.17] helo=slip-3.slip.net) by mongoose.slip.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 10yw8J-0000rz-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:32:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:32:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 Eternity23@XXXXXX wrote: > Well, sorta. It's a virtual shopping spree. I saw a H-D Fatboy with "$2k > invested in chrome" which made me sick. My question to all of you is: What > would you buy if you had $2000 to spend on your personal machines? You can > buy parts, labour, accesories. (You couldn't use the money for a new bike, or > a trailer.) Clothing, ('stiches, helmets, Widder/Gerbing stuff), things like > that. Or paint and body work. Thought this would be an interesting/fun thread > to start. Mine list should be up in a bit.....oh, another thought. If you > have multiple bikes to buy stuff for, you can either spend $2000 per bike, or > share the 2k between your bikes. > 1. Wolf racing underseat exhaust for the VFR800 ~$1000. 2. Polished or painted wheels on the VFR800 ~$500. 3. A new gas tank for the ZR750 as well as tires, chain and sprockets. ~$500 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 07:59:02 1999 Return-Path: nomad98@XXXXXX Received: from web113.yahoomail.com (web113.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.84]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA11270 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990629120005.20567.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.108.10.1] by web113.yahoomail.com; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 05:00:05 PDT Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 05:00:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Nomad Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! To: Hugh Caldwell , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii '94 Honda Magna: Corbin seat: $400 XL Gas tank: $600 Downpayment on a '99 VFR800: $1000 Herb --- Hugh Caldwell wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 Eternity23@XXXXXX wrote: > > > Well, sorta. It's a virtual shopping spree. I saw a H-D Fatboy with "$2k > > invested in chrome" which made me sick. My question to all of you is: What > > would you buy if you had $2000 to spend on your personal machines? You can > > buy parts, labour, accesories. (You couldn't use the money for a new bike, > or > > a trailer.) Clothing, ('stiches, helmets, Widder/Gerbing stuff), things > like > > that. Or paint and body work. Thought this would be an interesting/fun > thread > > to start. Mine list should be up in a bit.....oh, another thought. If you > > have multiple bikes to buy stuff for, you can either spend $2000 per bike, > or > > share the 2k between your bikes. > > > 1. Wolf racing underseat exhaust for the VFR800 ~$1000. > 2. Polished or painted wheels on the VFR800 ~$500. > 3. A new gas tank for the ZR750 as well as tires, chain and > sprockets. ~$500 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 08:43:53 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11967 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AF85C22016A; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:43:49 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990629083654.00baf480@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:39:40 -0400 To: "DC Cycles" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: VFR800 with K&N Dyno Results In-Reply-To: <004701bec1d8$3c04d940$6b73c3d0@bruce> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The BMW community got the same results running a K&N filter on a BMW K bike (I've seen the dyno charts). There was no difference with the K&N installed, or with the stock air filter installed, or with the air filter removed completely, or with the stock airbox removed. In addition, there's some concern that the oiled gauze of the K&N does not filter dirt out of the air as well as paper (stock filter) does. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar At 10:36 PM 6/28/99 , Bruce Norton wrote: >Okay, here it is. As far as I can tell, on the dyno, there is no difference >between the stock air filter and a K&N filter in my '98 VFR800. Dyno >charts can >be viewed at: > >ftp.wheatintl.com/incoming/vfr-list/Dyno%20Results > >courtesy of the generosity of Mike T. > >This bike has 11,000 miles on it and is equipped with a Staintune high >right all >stainless exhaust slip-on, spud free. The snorkel has been removed. The >factory >exhaust header has been coated with Jet-Hot coating www.jet-hot.com which is >supposed to work kind of like header wrap. It keeps the heat in the pipe and >increases scavenging. It also supposedly reduces turbulence inside the pipe. >This same bike last year made 100.2hp before the header coating. > >I haven't ridden it much since sunday but I couldn't tell any difference >in the >25 miles home from the dyno. > >YMMV >Bruce >'98 VFR800 'Tronix' > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 08:43:54 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11970 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AF83C22016A; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:43:50 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990629084247.00ba21e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:43:50 -0400 To: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:34 AM 6/29/99 , Eternity23@XXXXXX wrote: >Well, sorta. It's a virtual shopping spree. I saw a H-D Fatboy with "$2k >invested in chrome" which made me sick. My question to all of you is: What >would you buy if you had $2000 to spend on your personal machines? I'd put the kids in summer camp and take off on the bike with my wife. We'd ride until we used up half the money, then turn around and come back! :-) Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 08:45:49 1999 Return-Path: Glenn.Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA12056 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:45:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:43:23 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB072E@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM" To: "'Anita Lauro'" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Rides from Boyer (Camping Trip) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:44:38 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Anita, just an FYI. We rode WV 66 from Cass to Snowshoe a few weeks ago and its in real bad shape. Broken pavement, gravel, etc. This could be a great road if it had some new blacktop but as of a few weeks ago I would avoid it. Glenn Okay, so I've been playing and not working (again).. here are two possible ride routes out of Boyer... notice the nice twisty roads? :-) http://www.wizard.net/~2xracers/rally/Boyer_Route_1.jpg http://www.wizard.net/~2xracers/rally/Boyer_Route_2.jpg From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 09:00:59 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA12437 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 29 Jun 1999 16:00:51 UT Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 8:59 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Eternity23@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:$2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! Message-ID: <1999062909005851-27d5e0b3@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On my '86 VFR750 I would change the front bodywork into an RC30 and invest the rest into a big bore kit to turn it into an 840(837 to be exact). Maybe a 900RR rear wheel while I was at it to handle the 130hp that motor would make. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! Author: Eternity23@XXXXXX Date: 6/29/99 1:34 AM Well, sorta. It's a virtual shopping spree. I saw a H-D Fatboy with "$2k invested in chrome" which made me sick. My question to all of you is: What would you buy if you had $2000 to spend on your personal machines? You can buy parts, labour, accesories. (You couldn't use the money for a new bike, or a trailer.) Clothing, ('stiches, helmets, Widder/Gerbing stuff), things like that. Or paint and body work. Thought this would be an interesting/fun thread to start. Mine list should be up in a bit.....oh, another thought. If you have multiple bikes to buy stuff for, you can either spend $2000 per bike, or share the 2k between your bikes. -Sean Jordan '93 CBR1000F From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 09:03:58 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12488 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc1-s27.wizard.net [206.161.15.57]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA18475; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:04:01 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM" , Subject: RE: Rides from Boyer (Camping Trip) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:04:15 -0400 Message-ID: <000101bec22f$e430afc0$390fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB072E@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I rode Rte 66 a few times during the GPZ rally (6/9-6/11)... including at night, in the pouring rain!... it does have quite a few rough spots, but I kind of got used to it! :-) As I was making the maps to upload I noticed some alternate roads that look interesting.. I may check them out when I'm down there, but with my luck they'd turn out to be completely gravel! Any "must ride" roads in the area that I missed? I got a lot of input from Bill Sowers (HSTA guy I rode with on the Princeton trip last year)... he was great. Anita > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM [mailto:Glenn.Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 8:45 AM > To: 'Anita Lauro'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Rides from Boyer (Camping Trip) > > > Anita, just an FYI. We rode WV 66 from Cass to Snowshoe a few > weeks ago and its in real bad shape. Broken pavement, gravel, etc. > This could be a great road if it had some new blacktop but as of a > few weeks ago I would avoid it. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 09:10:25 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net (chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.98]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12726 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:10:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by chi6sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgvrw00025; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:09:58 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 8525679F.0048AA98 ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:13:42 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: Chris Norloff cc: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525679F.0048AA09.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:00:39 -0400 Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Dainese leathers. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Chris Norloff on 06/29/99 08:43:50 AM To: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! At 01:34 AM 6/29/99 , Eternity23@XXXXXX wrote: >Well, sorta. It's a virtual shopping spree. I saw a H-D Fatboy with "$2k >invested in chrome" which made me sick. My question to all of you is: What >would you buy if you had $2000 to spend on your personal machines? From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 09:35:08 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.zen-data.com (mail.zen-data.com [207.152.129.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13580 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (vulture [209.249.185.69]) by www.zen-data.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA01530 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:34:56 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990629092930.01c7b750@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:34:54 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:34 AM 6/29/99 , Eternity23@XXXXXX wrote: >Thought this would be an interesting/fun thread >to start. Mine list should be up in a bit.....oh, another thought. If you >have multiple bikes to buy stuff for, you can either spend $2000 per bike, or >share the 2k between your bikes. Funny, I was just listing these mods out last night....my wish list for the VFR. I didn't limit it to $2k. TBR High Right Exhaust System & Jet Kit K&N Filter Corbin Seat Tank Bra Tail locker Barely legal way too bright headlight replacement OEM Yellow plastics and tank painting =) Someone to chop my way too long rear mud guard Heli bars In no particual order, mind you. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 09:38:45 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA13663 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:38:43 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA06277; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:39:34 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa05705; Tue, 29 Jun 99 09:39:11 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com ([10.9.16.181]) by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FE3004D1CNTF1@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525679F.004AC1AD ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:36:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:35:43 -0400 Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525679F.004AC5A1.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hmm... I'd buy a set of leathers for about $800, boots for $200, and spend the rest on Keith Code or some other riding school. I wouldn't spend any of it on engine or pipe mods to the bike yet, since my priorities for better riding are 1) safer riding gear, 2) rider training, and *then* 3) bike modifications. The bike's much faster and more accomplished than I am right now. Chris Weaver '98 VTR 1000 Okay, so maybe I'd spend $30 or $40 on tools to take the baffle out of my OEM "stealth" pipe ;^) ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 10:33:14 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14579 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990629143409.1672.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web304.yahoomail.com; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:34:09 PDT Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:34:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > My question to all of you is: What would you buy if you had $2000 to spend > on your personal machines? Hmmm, I already bought most of the stuff I wanted, the GPS, Givi bag, Aerostich, and Russell Day-long Saddle. If I had $2,000 for more stuff, I'd probably look into getting an Auxillary fuel tank so I could be more competitive in the long distance events. If things get more serious with my girlfriend, I'd probably get her a Gerbing riding suit (they are more flexible on custom fitting outfits). If there was anything left over, I might upgrade the GPS to a Street Pilot. Either that, or take Chris' idea and blow the money on a nice long trip. No destination in mind, just spin the spinner and go "thataway" until money or vacation time runs out. Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours 11th place, Capitol 1000 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton http://members.xoom.com/Nighthawk700/cycle.htm _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 11:08:08 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA15160 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:08:06 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA09558; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:08:40 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa09492; Tue, 29 Jun 99 11:08:26 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com ([10.9.16.181]) by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FE300LETGTJP3@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525679F.0052FB36 ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:06:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:06:15 -0400 Subject: Good Roads to Richmond? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525679F.0053B8FC.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I'm heading to Richmond to visit some friends over the July 4th holiday, and I was hoping the WOTL had some road recommendations on how to get down there. I'll be riding (of course), so the twistier the better. I'm not concerned with getting down there quicker than about a half day or so, either. I'll be looking at mapquest.com for some ideas, but I'm sure some of you have suggestions. Thanks, Chris Weaver '98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 11:09:59 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15171 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:09:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.116]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:59:50 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:04:10 -0400 Message-ID: <000301bec240$a4322dc0$7480e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: I'd spend the 2k as follows: 1. Finish up the Wing hack. 2. Finish up the Wing cruiser. 3. Finish up the Wing tow vehicle ('81 Olds Wagon:). Heck, as frugal as I've been on these three projects, I might have enough left over from the $2k to get another project:) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 11:10:31 1999 Return-Path: psi_hobbes@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (f166.hotmail.com [207.82.251.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA15183 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 58292 invoked by uid 0); 29 Jun 1999 15:09:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990629150948.58291.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.172.7.13 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:09:48 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.172.7.13] From: Kirt Senser To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:09:48 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Everybody is coming up with some pretty good ideas, so don't expect anything original from me... I'd probably get a decent pair of leathers (~$600) and boots (~$150), V&H full exhaust and jetting(~$700), new D207 tires (~400), and the last $150 on a track day up at summit point or something. That would be a good start... Kirt 1996 CBR 600F3 SJR Annandale, Va _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________ ----Original Message Follows---- From: Chris Norloff To: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:43:50 -0400 At 01:34 AM 6/29/99 , Eternity23@XXXXXX wrote: >Well, sorta. It's a virtual shopping spree. I saw a H-D Fatboy with "$2k >invested in chrome" which made me sick. My question to all of you is: What >would you buy if you had $2000 to spend on your personal machines? I'd put the kids in summer camp and take off on the bike with my wife. We'd ride until we used up half the money, then turn around and come back! :-) Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 11:51:03 1999 Return-Path: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bmdo.mcri.com (root@[207.124.52.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16005 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:51:00 -0400 (EDT) From: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from jnewman ([192.168.13.162]) by bmdo.mcri.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA02751 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:53:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199906291453.KAA02751@bmdo.mcri.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:48:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! Priority: normal In-reply-to: <19990629150948.58291.qmail@hotmail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) For me it would be one of those Enduro motorcycle tours of Mexico, the Brazilian coast, Thailand, Vietnam or some other exotic locale... The ones where they give you a bike, have a support team follow you with all your stuff, and set up camp & have dinner ready at your destination for that evening.... I would settle for something like that.... John Newman 88 FZR 400 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 12:16:44 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA16413 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:16:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user73.anent.com [208.195.115.73]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00472 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:13:55 -0400 Message-ID: <03eb01bec24a$c64daba0$4973c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: References: Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:16:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Freddie Spencer's High Performance Riding School 3-Day Sport Rider class. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 13:34:00 1999 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17757 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [152.119.40.21] by usdotmh.dot.gov with ESMTP for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:29:47 -0400 Received: by rspa-exchange.rspa.dot.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:29:16 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Burger, Donald" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:29:11 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) For my Hawk I would spend my imaginary $2,000 as follows: Racetech Gold Valve Cartridge Emulators for the front forks. Megacycle 153 Cams. A Watanabee Carbon Fiber gas tank to bring the tank capacity up to 5 gallons. And an Aerostich suit. Don B From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 13:40:49 1999 Return-Path: schelzig@XXXXXX Received: from cpiserv2.dn.net (mail.publicintegrity.org [207.153.192.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17976 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pc37 (host54.cpi.dn.net [207.153.192.54]) by cpiserv2.dn.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id MBHX61YD; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:34:22 -0400 Message-ID: <008f01bec256$befbedb0$36c099cf@pc37.dn.net> From: "Erik Schelzig" To: , Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:42:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 I did Vietnam on my own -- well, with my girlfriend at the time -- for $1,500 all told, including crappy Russian "motorcycle." I recommend foreign travel as much as the next guy, though I shy away from organized tours. See recent article in MCN on scams, etc. If you're interested in my ride, check out my website at http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~schelzig where the text section has become fairly mangled, but the pictures speak a lot for themselves. I'm writing a chapter for the upcoming edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorbiking Handbook about my experiences over there. I still can't say which is worse, thogh - braving the Hai Van Pass between Hue and Danang or riding Memorial Circle during rush-hour! Allbests, Erik '80 CX500D - "Das Beast" -----Original Message----- From: jnewman@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 12:17 PM Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! For me it would be one of those Enduro motorcycle tours of Mexico, the Brazilian coast, Thailand, Vietnam or some other exotic locale... The ones where they give you a bike, have a support team follow you with all your stuff, and set up camp & have dinner ready at your destination for that evening.... I would settle for something like that.... John Newman 88 FZR 400 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 13:46:19 1999 Return-Path: MOTO748@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18120 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:46:17 -0400 (EDT) From: MOTO748@XXXXXX Received: from MOTO748@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id 2YKIa03722 (15547) for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4baae588.24aa5fca@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:43:38 EDT Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 I'm usually just lurking but this was too good to pass up. 1.G.P. style exhuast for TZR250 2.lightened fly wheel for Duc 748 3.Corbin seat for 900sp 4.Sharkskinz lower for YZF600 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 14:24:47 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18754 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:23:35 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:23:28 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:21:04 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Subject: Good Roads to Richmond? -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I can vouch for 522 between Winchester down to Rt. 250 (Broad St. Rd at Gum Spring or Oilville, I forget which). 522 is the classic country road--hilly, sweepy, not real tight, not usually cop-infested. Discover that yes, there really is a Cuckoo, Virginia. 250's ok for the short time you'll be on it, but you might as well jump on 64 at Oilville cuz 250/Broad Street morphs into Strip Mall Hell from Short Pump heading east. Joe (SE of Cuckoo) From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 14:27:48 1999 Return-Path: SuazoT@XXXXXX Received: from seg-pdc.seg-inc.com (mail.seg-inc.com [207.96.22.190]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA18849 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:27:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.seg-inc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:26:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Suazo, Tony" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Hello Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:26:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Hi all, Back from the honeymoon. Sad to leave the Island of Barbados, but it was good to get back on the bike. I rode on Sunday with my cousin. Left at 8:00 am and got back around 7:30 pm. I know that at some point we where in George Washington Park around Goshen, VA. That was my longest ride to date. Got a chance to ride my cousin's 900 RR for about an hour. Sweet ride. Very different from the F3. Well, I just wanted to say hello. Lori and I will be in DC this weekend. Anybody riding? Tony CBR600 F3 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 14:45:16 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19207 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:45:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id 2YNOa29538 (4456) for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:44:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <23634d62.24aa6dfa@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:44:10 EDT Subject: My 200,000 cents worth....(shopping spree) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 For my CBR1000F and myself, I would have to get.... Vance & Hines SS2R 4-1 carbon fibre exhaust $579 Dynojet jetkit $116.40 Goodridge Steel brakelines front and back $155 Full Givi Setup $600 (?) Aerostich roadcrafter $670 Ok....I went over by roughly $120.....I'll pay that out of pocket.....another variation would have me go with a V&H supersport exhaust at $380, and going up a a few teeth on the rear sprocket.....I don't really need/use the top end the CBR provides.....it'd be a bit handier/more fun a little bit sooner. :) -Sean Jordan '93 CBR1000F From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 17:29:52 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA22107 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:29:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer (207-172-45-106.s106.tnt5.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.45.106]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA16954; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:34:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "LindaT" To: "CBR" , "DC-CYCLES" Subject: Laughing Gods (longish) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:29:44 -0400 Message-ID: <003501bec276$81796a60$6f23accf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal The gods must be bored these days as I have had a most interesting two weeks. First, there was my little getoff and the 30 mile ride home with a bike running for shit and no left mirror. Then, the AIDS ride with the POWER of directing traffic and the wonder of being involved in such a noble venture. Today, I decided that the pain in my neck and shoulders was not getting any better, so I made an appointment with my chiropractor. Except of course, my chiro was on vacation and he had someone else filling in, but hey, I didn't care, I just want some relief. I get an appointment for 2pm in Arlington (just off Washington Blvd). I worked in Beltsville today (first time since the booboo), so I left at 1pm and planned on riding through town (Kenilworth/NYAve/blahblah/tunnel/395/WashingtonBlvd). Just after I turned left into the tunnel and shifted into second, my clutch cable broke. ACKKKKK!!!! Gods are chuckling. This was absolutely the best place for this to happen as there was really only one traffic light and the left turn into his street between me and the chiro office. I forged ahead, desperately trying to figure out the route and the stops and (OH GOD) how was I going to get this done??? With my panic, I got off at the wrong exit and ended up riding through the Pentagon parking lot (and running a stop sign) trying to get back onto 395 which was past the exit that I wanted. I went down to Shirlington, choked it stalled at the light and figured I'd start it in second because it was so hard to shift from first. It was then I found out the starter does not work in second, only in first. The folks behind me were pissed, but... Got back on 395 northbound, got off at Washington Blvd, the light was green and there was no cross traffic to the office. Got there at 1:55pm. Here's where the gods started laughing again. The replacement doc had an emergency and was running late. Ok, I think, no problem. As long as I get on the road by 3:30pm, I'll miss the backups of rush hour. The 1pm appointment (who was still waiting) only spoke spanish and the doc only spoke broken spanish and good english. Uh oh, I think, this bodes not well. At 3Pm they get started on me, except the spanish lady is still there and requires some more attention. 3:15, then 3:30, then 3:45 the doc comes back. I have to leave or I'm screwed. I explain, we make arrangements for tomorrow, she does a quick adjustment, and I head out at 4:10. I turned the bike around so it was heading in the right direction, put it in first, wait for traffic to clear and hit the starter. We're off!! The only traffic light turns green before I get there and I get onto 395 southbound. Uh oh, traffic is stopped. The gods a really laughing now. I ride down the shoulder to Shirlington again, do the U-loop and get back onto 395 northbound with the intention of getting on the commuter lanes. I know the Pentagon lot will have stop signs, but I am resigned to my fate. The first stop sign has a bus and 5-6 cars already there. I stall the bike and walk it up to the front of the line. Into first and hit the starter when there is a gap. The next stop I just run and I'm onto 395 HOV lanes. Now, additional planning. I'll get off at FFX county pkwy as per normal and hope the light at the top of the ramp is not backed up. It's not, in fact there is NO ONE there (gods are grinning). Stall the bike, hit the starter and we're off again. If I go my normal route, I'll have only one more traffic light (ok), but I'll also have to turn left across busy traffic (not ok). I opt for an alternate route that has more lights, but the left turn is from busy traffic instead of across. The light at the top of the ramp is green (Hallelujah!). The second light turns green before I get there (gasp, the gods are smiling), the third light is green and there is (TA DA!!) no cross traffic for my left. I am home. I even have a clutch cable here (somewhere). So, now I know how to upshift and downshift without a clutch. It's really surprisingly easy. Not that I want to do this all the time mind you. So, how much damage did I do to the: 1) tranny 2) starter 3) clutch And how hard is it to replace the cable anyway? I hope the gods are done with me for a while. This excitement is tiring!! LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (58K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 20:55:26 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA25851 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-228-177.s50.as7.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.228.177]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA03807; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:53:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00d601bec293$3ac93b00$b1e4accf@95> From: "D. Thompson" To: "Ron DeGoosh" , "Joanie DeGoosh" , , Subject: Fw: Harley Joke Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:55:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 6:44 PM Subject: Harley Joke > Harley Vasectomy. Bubba and Lorene, a Harley biker couple, after having > their 10th child, decided that that was enough. They went to their doctor > and told him that he and his wife didn't want to have any more children. > The doctor, a VFR rider, told him that there was a procedure called a > vasectomy that could fix the problem. The doctor told the man that he was > to go home, get a cherry bomb, light it and put it in a can, then hold the > can up to his ear and count to 10. > > Bubba says to the doctor, "I may not be the smartest man on two wheels, but > I don't see how putting a cherry bomb in a can next to my ear is going to > help me." > > So the couple drove to another doctor's office to get a second opinion. The > doctor was just about to tell them about the procedure for a vasectomy > when he looked out the window and noticed they were riding Milwaukee iron. > CBR drivin' doctor also told Bubba and Lorene to go home, get a cherry > bomb, place it in a tin can, hold it next to his ear and count to 10. > > Figuring that both doctors couldn't be wrong, the couple went home. Bubba > lit a cherry bomb and put it in a can. He held the can up to his ear and > began to count. "1, 2, 3, 4, 5...", at which point he paused, placed the > can between his legs and resumed counting on his other hand. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > The VF/VFR mailing list--see http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~john/vfr-list/ > for subscribe/unsubscribe, policy and archive information. > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 21:02:37 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA26036 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-216-95.s95.tnt3.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.216.95]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA11528 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 21:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 99 20:57:13 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: re: 2k to spend To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hmm. $500 for a Shark dual pipe Polished Alloy exhaust(think rc-45 style, only available in UK) $800 for Ohlins Rear Shock $200-300 for reworking the front forks(springs, valve work) $400 for jet kit and dyno turning of pipe. The shark pipe is really sweet. All polished alloy and very nice looking, even if it is a right side pipe. greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/29/99 HSTA/AMA 8:57:13 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 29 23:10:51 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA29075 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [207.172.54.28] (207-172-54-28.s28.tnt16.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.54.28]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA07032 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906300310.XAA07032@smtp3.erols.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:27:14 -0400 Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! From: "David Cross" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I'd buy all the starving childern all over the world motorcycles and we'd all hold hands and sing songs . . . Forgive me dave From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 00:51:01 1999 Return-Path: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01483 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 00:51:00 -0400 (EDT) From: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from JimJacks@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.21) id vZKWa03723 (4312) for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 00:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <50023590.24aafbd8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 00:49:28 EDT Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 06/29/99 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 y2g? id buy a months supply of condoms. am i missing something? buy some food for homeless people, I know its un-American, but the world has enough chrome. (the vacation with wife reply made sense to me............) a guy, a bike, a mazed From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 07:30:27 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08392 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:30:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA06094 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA17731 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:30:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursulina (207-172-119-251.s251.tnt2.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.119.251]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA18597 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003801bec305$3cb68540$fb77accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: ?? about $$ for carb work Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:31:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hi ya, I've been given an estimate for carb work on my bike, a 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD. It's developed a fuel leak and back fires mercilessly, as anyone that's ridden behind me knows. An independent mechanic has offered the following quote: $210 to remove carbs, clean, reseal, adjust, and replace. He says he'll have to keep the bike for a few days. How does that price and time frame sound? Also, would this be called a "carb cleaning" or "carb rebuilding"? What's the difference? The mechanic also noticed the rear muffler heat shields are missing and that could be adding to the backfiring. To replace those would be an additional cost. - - Ursulina 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD (old and cranky as she is, she can still go the distance! NO, not me, the BIKE! :-) From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 08:56:09 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10604 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:56:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A3E32CD01B6; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:56:03 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990630085118.00b9aa60@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:53:31 -0400 To: "LindaT" , "DC-CYCLES" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Laughing Gods (longish) In-Reply-To: <003501bec276$81796a60$6f23accf@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >So, how much damage did I do to the: >1) tranny >2) starter >3) clutch Not much. Worth it to get home. >And how hard is it to replace the cable anyway? Easier than riding in rush hour traffic with a broken clutch cable! :-) >I hope the gods are done with me for a while. This excitement is tiring!! We plan, God laughs. :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 08:56:18 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10607 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A3E52CD01B6; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:56:05 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990630085411.00b7bcb0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:56:21 -0400 To: "David Cross" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! In-Reply-To: <199906300310.XAA07032@smtp3.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:27 PM 6/29/99 , David Cross wrote: >I'd buy all the starving childern all over the world motorcycles and we'd >all hold hands and sing songs . . . > >Forgive me > >dave I'd like to buy the world some bikes, And ride in com-pa-ny, And all could be as one we ride, In per-fect har-mon-y ... Chris Norloff Disclaimer- These are not my opinions, they are the opinions of the little voices in my head. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 09:10:31 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10855 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:10:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 06:09:59 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Thanx Anita Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 06:09:58 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Well, actually.. Yea, I can imagine - it happened to me (Glenn Dysart was with me that day).. it was a weird animal day.. we had a skunk (maybe a racoon.. I forget) running down the road, I didn't know where to aim as I went by.. lots of deer, and that bear sitting in the middle of the road.. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Anita Lauro [mailto:2xracers@XXXXXX] > Can you imagine coming around a > corner and seeing a big black bear standing in the road? Yikes! From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 09:22:45 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.14]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11103 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA23349 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:22:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv11-34.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.34) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma023303; Wed Jun 30 08:21:45 1999 Message-ID: <004a01bec2fb$5851faa0$225e23c7@w98sysrec> From: "Ken" To: References: Subject: Re: 2k to spend Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:20:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I'd spend the two grand for a used bike to ride when mine is in the shop = ...AAAAArgh..... ;..((( Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 09:40:44 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11370 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:40:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AE582310160; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:40:40 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990630093329.00b78740@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:41:05 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Tactic for dealing with SUV driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Interesting event last night. I was merging from the right in bumper-to-bumper traffic getting out of DC. It was going pretty well with traffic merging one from one lane, one from the other lane (what a concept!). So this SUV driver is badly tailgating the car in front of him/her/it, and taking the space I should be merging into. I could drop back, no big deal, but I tapped my horn twice and the SUV passenger looked over at me -- I pointed to the space I wanted to merge into, and the SUV passenger directed the driver to slow down and let me in! Maybe that's what SUV (and other!) drivers need ... a HANDLER! it's a jungle out there, Chris Norloff P.S. Reminds me of the joke that the cockpit of the future airplane will have a pilot and a dog. The pilot's job is to feed the dog. The dog's job is to bite the pilot if he tries to touch the controls. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 10:32:36 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12286 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:32:24 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: 2k to spend Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:32:18 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I think that $2k would go well towards having GMD computrack optomize my 87 VFR frame with F2 front end so it handled more like a 99 bike and less like a wallowing pig (sheesh, and I thought it rode well till I got used to riding a Ducati 900ss). Though, other purchases might be for new bodywork, custom fabrication work, a 'built' engine, 'Stich for me, new helmet, stockpile of oil, filters, spark-plugs, tires... a vehicle to TOW the bike.. ;) I can come up with to many things... someone wanna loan me more pretend money? Mine's run out..... Brian From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 10:36:35 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12384 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:35:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id HAA23340 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:31:52 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:31:52 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: LindaT , CBR , DC-CYCLES Subject: RE: Laughing Gods (longish) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:31:50 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm not EVEN gonna try to top this (my personal worst was a broken clutch cable on a Fiat 128 in Wiesbaden during rush hour - lucked out and hit all lights green) >So, how much damage did I do to the: >1) tranny Probably none, unless you had some heavy grinding sounds coming out of it as you shifted. First gear is usually designed to be pretty strong to take the torque multiplying effects it sees in daily use. >2) starter It will die sooner than it would have - but in all probability not before you move on to another scooter. >3) clutch No problem - you didn't use it at all - it stayed engaged and saw no action. >And how hard is it to replace the cable anyway? Usually not too bad - depends on how deeply buried the clutch end is. - Oh yeah - you've got full bodywork - plan on removing all of it, the tank and seat - the routing is usually pretty well buried with the wiring harness and throttle cables. (if you've got a lot of miles on the scooter, this would be a good time to lube or replace the throttle cable(s) while you have the beast apart) Michael (been there, done that (just not all in one afternoon)) J. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 10:48:40 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12561 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id AE36AB40270; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:48:22 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990630102715.00a2b4a0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:27:37 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Fwd: ST1100: brain dead cager gets his Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > From the ST1100 list ... a little good news -- > >Riding home last night on a 3 lane freeway, in the middle lane, >an SUV in the lane left of me decides to move into my lane. >The drivers attention was focused on the passengers and the >conversation going on. Didn't bother to even look. I saw him >coming and slowed down, honked the horn to no avail. Well >about 30 seconds later a sheriff pulls in between me and the >SUV and turns on the red blinkers. Must have seen the whole >thing. Score 1 for the bikers. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 11:05:12 1999 Return-Path: Glenn.Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12854 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:05:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:02:37 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB0779@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Thanx Anita Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:04:13 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Don't forget the dear that went between our bikes as I was rounding a turn and the comacozie(sp?) bird that bounced off of Bill's tire. Glenn Well, actually.. Yea, I can imagine - it happened to me (Glenn Dysart was with me that day).. it was a weird animal day.. we had a skunk (maybe a racoon.. I forget) running down the road, I didn't know where to aim as I went by.. lots of deer, and that bear sitting in the middle of the road.. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Anita Lauro [mailto:2xracers@XXXXXX] > Can you imagine coming around a > corner and seeing a big black bear standing in the road? Yikes! From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 11:22:03 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13116 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:22:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by dfw7sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgvvx22766; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:21:50 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 852567A0.0054C953 ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:26:05 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: Chris Norloff cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852567A0.0054C764.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:12:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Fwd: ST1100: brain dead cager gets his Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline LOL!! Here's another story: Same basic thing, I was riding in the right lane of 495 'cause my exit was coming up...a blonde in some muscle car, without even turning her head an inch, decides to come into my lane from the right. I yelled, "AHHHH". She had her window open and heard me....finally turned her head!!!...and stopped coming into my lane. Sometimes the mouth works wonders. I think it's a lot louder than my horn. ; ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Chris Norloff on 06/30/99 10:27:37 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Fwd: ST1100: brain dead cager gets his > From the ST1100 list ... a little good news -- > >Riding home last night on a 3 lane freeway, in the middle lane, >an SUV in the lane left of me decides to move into my lane. >The drivers attention was focused on the passengers and the >conversation going on. Didn't bother to even look. I saw him >coming and slowed down, honked the horn to no avail. Well >about 30 seconds later a sheriff pulls in between me and the >SUV and turns on the red blinkers. Must have seen the whole >thing. Score 1 for the bikers. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 11:36:03 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13401 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:36:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with ESMTP id LAA00616 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:28:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990630113706.00a9a340@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:37:34 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: sat ride Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I heard something earlier about a ride this weekend... is that still happening? ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://ussales/granth From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 11:45:14 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13590 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:45:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA00409; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:44:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv10-22.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.150) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma000252; Wed Jun 30 10:43:16 1999 Message-ID: <001301bec30f$1a8fa5a0$9672d9ce@w98sysrec> From: "Ken" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" , References: <852567A0.004EBA50.00@d54mta02.raleigh.ibm.com> Subject: Re: 2k to spend Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:42:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Actually it is a completely reliable bike, It was just bad timing that I = had a prob with it on my week off. I have 16k on mine, and have done = nothing but fluid changes, plugs and replaced the battery this spring. = About a week or two ago, the Speedo broke and jammed at 90 mph, ;)) and = its getting replaced under the extended warranty. In addition she just = started weeping oil on the right side top of the engine sidecover and I = am having that checked. so in reality its been a good bike, I am just = po'd at the lousy timing. I am also having the 15 k service done, just = a bit late ;). Been too nice a year. I double the oil changes and do = them at 2500, and have the dealer do them at the reccomended 5k = intervals. Other than being a bit cold blooded, (lots of choke when = shes cold is required) after the DynoJet , Air Cleaner, SE pipes their = isn't anything I can really complain about. =20 Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 10:19 AM >=20 > Ken, I'm interested in your comment. I thought the XLH was a pretty = reliable > bike and have been considering it as a possible "next bike". Is it = really in > the shop that much? Should I reconsider? What kind of problems have = you had > with it? >=20 > Regards, > Tom Knapik > E-mail: knapik@XXXXXX >=20 From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 12:11:47 1999 Return-Path: bernescut@XXXXXX Received: from raphael.catholic.org (root@XXXXXX [207.95.245.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14031 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ACRE1.ncea.org ([12.4.21.69]) by raphael.catholic.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA25490 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:11:25 -0700 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:05:24 -0400 Message-ID: <01BEC2F0.D55C7B20.bernescut@ncea.org> From: Cedric Bernescut Reply-To: "bernescut@XXXXXX" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Fwd: ST1100: brain dead cager gets his Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:05:23 -0400 Organization: NCEA X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds great! I remember a story from one of the mags about the journalist who was getting a lane changer from his right and lifted his leg off the peg and planted a perfect imprint of the sole of his shoe on the guy's window. That woke him up. Cedric AMA 663626 CBR600F Annandale, VA "On the other hand, you have different fingers." -----Original Message----- From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX [SMTP:Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 11:12 AM To: Chris Norloff Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Fwd: ST1100: brain dead cager gets his LOL!! Here's another story: Same basic thing, I was riding in the right lane of 495 'cause my exit was coming up...a blonde in some muscle car, without even turning her head an inch, decides to come into my lane from the right. I yelled, "AHHHH". She had her window open and heard me....finally turned her head!!!...and stopped coming into my lane. Sometimes the mouth works wonders. I think it's a lot louder than my horn. ; ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Chris Norloff on 06/30/99 10:27:37 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Fwd: ST1100: brain dead cager gets his > From the ST1100 list ... a little good news -- > >Riding home last night on a 3 lane freeway, in the middle lane, >an SUV in the lane left of me decides to move into my lane. >The drivers attention was focused on the passengers and the >conversation going on. Didn't bother to even look. I saw him >coming and slowed down, honked the horn to no avail. Well >about 30 seconds later a sheriff pulls in between me and the >SUV and turns on the red blinkers. Must have seen the whole >thing. Score 1 for the bikers. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 12:12:28 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14107 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA08232 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24049 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (209-122-252-94.s348.tnt1.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.252.94]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id MAA28017 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <377A3F13.215@erols.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:00:19 -0400 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: last of the tires Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is a listing of the last of the tires I have in stock and the prices for them. All prices are cash and carry, the tire machine and balancer have been sold. Please reply to me on the net if you see something you want. Best include a daytime phone number if you want me to call you. Thanks for all your support in the past. qty size/maker price 1 110/90v16 me33metz 68 2 130/90v16 me99metz 82 1 100/90v16 me33metz 63 1 110/80v17 me33metz 69 1 130/90v16 me55metz 85 1 130/70hb18 ml2fmetz 86 1 150/70zr17 mez2metz 95 3 110/80zr17 mez1metz 82 1 160/80hb16 ml2+metz 112 1 120/80zr16 mez2metz 72 1 110/80zr17 mez3metz 73 1 120/60zr17 mez2metz 79 1 150/70zr17 mez4metz 95 1 150/80zr16 d205dnlp 90 1 160/70zr17 d205dnlp 92 2 100/90v16 k591dnlp 57 1 150/90v15 k591dnlp 64 1 130/90hb16d401dnlp 75 1 120/90h16tkh24conti 53 1 140/90h16tkh24conti 68 1 110/90h19tkh23conti 49 1 400/18tt dirt tire 25 1 300/21tt dirt tire 19 1 120/90h16rs310r irc 43 1 100/90h16rw010f irc 43 1 150/70zr17draggt pir 85 -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 13:04:20 1999 Return-Path: knapik@XXXXXX Received: from e3.ny.us.ibm.com (e3.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.103]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14992 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:04:18 -0400 (EDT) From: knapik@XXXXXX Received: from southrelay02.raleigh.ibm.com (southrelay02.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.3.209]) by e3.ny.us.ibm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA100668 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:04:06 -0400 Received: from d54mta01.raleigh.ibm.com (d54mta01.raleigh.ibm.com [9.67.228.33]) by southrelay02.raleigh.ibm.com (8.8.8m2/NCO v2.03) with SMTP id NAA73302 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:04:14 -0400 Received: by d54mta01.raleigh.ibm.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 852567A0.005DC3D8 ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:04:09 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: " Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:04:01 -0400 Subject: Re: 2k to spend Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for the clarification Ken. p.s. I just got back from a trip to Colorado and New Mexico. Those roads are really made for bikes!!! >Actually it is a completely reliable bike, It was just bad timing that I had a >prob with it on my week off. I have 16k on mine, and have done nothing but >fluid changes, plugs and replaced the battery this spring. About a week or >two ago, the Speedo broke and jammed at 90 mph, ;)) and its getting replaced >under the extended warranty. In addition she just started weeping oil on the >right side top of the engine sidecover and I am having that checked. so in >reality its been a good bike, I am just po'd at the lousy timing. I am also >having the 15 k service done, just a bit late ;). Been too nice a year. I >double the oil changes and do them at 2500, and have the dealer do them at >the reccomended 5k intervals. Other than being a bit cold blooded, (lots of >choke when shes cold is required) after the DynoJet , Air Cleaner, SE pipes >their isn't anything I can really complain about. >Ken S. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 14:46:01 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17073 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA09123 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA28665 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:45:22 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:45:18 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:43:45 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, ursulina@XXXXXX Subject: ?? about $$ for carb work -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Heat shields? You mean the things that strap/bolt to the outside of the mufflers? Lack of which causes backfiring? If so, he's suffering from rectal-cranial inversion. Sounds like he's proposing rebuild--disassembly, new parts, reassembly. But at a hundred bucks per carb? Ahh, no thank you. I'd be talking to someone else, especially if this guy is serious 'bout the heat shield thing. Joe From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 14:47:31 1999 Return-Path: mjay@XXXXXX Received: from resolver.treev.com ([38.183.229.13]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17083 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tralfaz.herndon.treev.com (treev.com [10.1.1.24]) by resolver.treev.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07229 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:47:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tralfaz.treev.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:51:17 -0400 Message-ID: <22F6F36CA6A3D111B95A006097177427D4F31B@tralfaz.treev.com> From: Michael Jay To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: ?? about $$ for carb work Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:51:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain >Ursulina asks: >$210 to remove carbs, clean, reseal, adjust, and replace. He says he'll >have to keep the bike for a few days. How does that price and time frame >sound? Depends on whether this price includes jets and needles that may need replacement, and if adjust means synchronize with mercury gauges or the like. Likewise, before synchronizing the carbs, the float level would also need checking. >Also, would this be called a "carb cleaning" or "carb rebuilding"? What's >the difference? Cleaning may be accomplished with lots of petroleum distillate dumped into the tank--works for me, but the removal, dismantling, overhaul (replace worn parts), and ressembly to include float level checking and synchronization would mean rebuild to me. Sounds like the mechanic's intent is to provide you with re-built carbs. Please note that I am a "green horn" self-helper that has a fixer-upper bike, but no experience as a mechanic except for begging my '82 bike to keep running. My comments reflect the procedures that I have read from the Haynes manual for my Seca. If you have the Clymer, Haynes, or KAW factory manual for you bike, you and the mechanic could speak from the procedures within one of those manuals so as to prevent ambiguity of terms. Also, you may want to check the gas tank and fuel lines to the carbs because rust from the tank may put crud right back into the carbs again. So far I have been very lucky with carb cleaner in the tank, but I know the valve adjustment looms in the near future for my dear ol' Seca. Heaven's just a shim away, Mike Jay 82 XJ750RJ From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 20:41:23 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA24000 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from - (209-122-229-73.s581.tnt5.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.229.73]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA20019 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 99 20:33:27 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: ride this weekend To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX >Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:37:34 -0400 >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >From: Grant Heffernan >Subject: sat ride > >I heard something earlier about a ride this weekend... is that still happening? Barring a traffic accident involving me, or other natural disaster, there will be a ride this weekend. Meet at the Old COuntry Buffet in Manassas(on 234 business south off of 66), in shopping center on left with giant and barnes and noble. 8:30 for food, 9:30 kickstands up. First gas stop at roughly 75 miles. I'll be riding at a moderate pace(roughly the same as what Anita has ridden on the rides I've done with her), and I'll have extra cue sheets for anyone that wants to go faster or slower than me. But, if you don't let me know you're coming, I don't guarantee a cue sheet;-). This is nominally an HSTA event(www.ridehsta.com), but all are welcome. It isn't even a sanctioned, official HSTA event, so don't worry about that at all. Oh, the ride is on saturday. greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 6/30/99 HSTA/AMA 8:33:27 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 23:26:07 1999 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA26591 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust033.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.33]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA15131; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:26:00 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990630232053.006aa9e0@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:20:53 -0400 To: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: $2,000 Bike part shopping spree for DC-Cycles! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Easy question. . . On long trips my daily expenses average somewhat higher than $0.10/mile. For two grand I could get a Southern California Motorcycle Association 4-corners pin, and probably see Alaska, too. Leon. At 01:34 AM 6/29/99 EDT, Eternity23@XXXXXX wrote: >Well, sorta. It's a virtual shopping spree. I saw a H-D Fatboy with "$2k >invested in chrome" which made me sick. My question to all of you is: What >would you buy if you had $2000 to spend on your personal machines? You can >buy parts, labour, accesories. (You couldn't use the money for a new bike, or >a trailer.) Clothing, ('stiches, helmets, Widder/Gerbing stuff), things like >that. Or paint and body work. Thought this would be an interesting/fun thread >to start. Mine list should be up in a bit.....oh, another thought. If you >have multiple bikes to buy stuff for, you can either spend $2000 per bike, or >share the 2k between your bikes. > >-Sean Jordan >'93 CBR1000F > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 30 23:41:57 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA26854 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:41:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA12079 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA10038 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA23523 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust033.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.33]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA15470 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:41:34 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990630233627.006bd028@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:36:27 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Laughing Gods (longish) In-Reply-To: <003501bec276$81796a60$6f23accf@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:29 PM 6/29/99 -0400, you wrote: >The gods . . . > >So, how much damage did I do to the: >1) tranny >2) starter >3) clutch My guess is none. Tranny - probably no full throttle clutchless shifts - small probability of damage. Starter - if the motor started right away - small probability of damage. Clutch - it wasn't slipping at all for the entire trip, if you do this all the time, you'd never need to replace it. Less wear and tear than normal for a trip of this distance. Leon - never ridden further than 500 miles before replacing a broken clutch cable. (Nor more than 100K miles on any bike after having had one broken)