From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 4 13:55:11 1996 Priority: urgent Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:05:00 -0700 From: "Jordan, Michael" Subject: SRX-6 Parts Needed To: "'DC-Cycles'" X-Mailer: Worldtalk(NetConnex V3.50c)/stream Looking for SRX-6 parts I need the following: Upper fork tubes, front wheel, left sub-frame My younger son was momentarily distracted and wound up stuffing Thumpa into a rock. The kid's O.K., but the bike is somewhat the worse for wear - seems that the front wheel and forks ate most of the deceleration forces. If anyone knows any racers who have stock SRX parts I'd appreciate any leads - the cost of new parts is a bit steep. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 4 23:06:58 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 23:04:32 -0400 To: race-l@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Practice Day at Summit Point, WV Since you asked... MARRC will run its annual practice day at Summit Point Friday, June 14th, preceding the CCS race weekend. Here's the info: NO PRE-REGISTRATION! JUST SHOW UP!! $50 per rider, plus $20 if your MARRC membership is not current. (you can join MARRC on the spot) $15 gate fee per person licensed racers only bring all the bikes you want, but they must pass tech. safety crew and ambulance provided, but you won't crash, right? Track opens at 7am, practice begins at 9. We start with 4 groups and evaluate the need for more or less division as the day progresses. see you there! rich From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 6 17:08:05 1996 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:07:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Maddox To: Cycling List Subject: Newbie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey, all! It's the classic "hi, I'm new here" post - just starting riding this year, finished the MSF course at PGCC, got the license, now I'm shopping! I'd love advice and/or leads anyone may have (especially leads). I'm planning on mostly short touring and around town riding, some commuting and errand-running, but mostly for fun. Me and sometimes a passenger. So I need a basic, reliable, mid-power street bike. Nothing crazy, nothing new - I'll probably put some wear on the clutch at first, and I don't want something too powerful/big to be comfortable at first. What my non-electronic friends tell me, and what I've seen, is that I should be looking for something like an early 80s bike, maybe a CB650/750, or a Kz of similar size. Checked out a Silverwing 500 and a CB750 this week, liked the fit of the CB a lot. Yes, I *have* been checking the NADA book for pricing. And I have two detailed inspection checklists people have given me. Am now looking for more ideas, but mainly leads to anyone who knows anyone who has such a bike they want to sell. I'm in Bethesda, working in DC, but anywhere in the DC-Baltimore area is fine with me! Thanks in advance, and all that stuff!! Andy Maddox, madsox@XXXXXX etc. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 6 20:00:11 1996 From: AntietamMC@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:59:35 -0400 To: balt-cycles@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Looking for new roads to ride?? AMA District 7 Road Riding Events Schedule In case you missed it earlier, here's a list of upcoming AMA-sanctioned Road Riding events for 1996. All events are open to AMA and non-AMA riders and their passengers. Come enjoy what Maryland & Delaware has to offer! 9-Jun Blue Ridge Road Riders Loc: JT Motorsports 5708 Urbana Pike (RT 355) Frederick, MD Info: Russ Fleming (410) 374-9687 Charity Ride 10:00 AM 14-Jul Diamond M/C Loc: Diamond Motor Sports Camden, DE Rt-13 & Camden Info: (302) 697-3222 Scavenger Hunt 9:00 AM 20-Jul Baltimore Ramblers Loc: Club Grounds 5513 Deer Park Road Reisterstown, MD Info: Clubhouse (410) 833-5795 Poker Run 4:00 PM 21-Jul Maryland Comp. Riders Loc: Cycle Connection 5220 Washington Blvd. Elkridge, MD Info: Paul Anderson (410) 788-5173 Poker Run 11:00 AM 4-Aug Chapter 451 Vietnam Vets Loc: Ft. Holabird 6401 Beckley St. Baltimore, MD Info: Vince Lombardo (410) 486-4666 Poker Run 9:00 AM 25-Aug Blue Ridge Road Riders Loc: JT Motorsports 5708 Urbana Pike (RT 355) Frederick, MD Info: Russell Fleming (410) 374-9687 Poker Run 10:00 AM 8-Sep Western MD MC Assn. Loc: Community Park @ Route 806 Thurmont, MD Info: Jack Pearre (410) 775-7209 Nostalgia Run 11:00 AM 15-Sep Baltimore Ramblers Loc: Club Grounds 5513 Deer Park Road Reisterstown, MD Info: Clubhouse (410) 833-5795 Poker Run 10:00 AM 22-Sep Blue Ridge Road Riders Loc: JT Motorsports 5708 Urbana Pike (RT 355) Frederick, MD Info: Russell Fleming (410) 374-9687 Quiz Run 10:00 AM 29-Sep 4-Seasons Road Riders Loc: Pizza Hut Rt 32 & 108 Clarksville, MD Info: (301) 831-7189 OR (410) 655-1420 Post Office Run 11:00 AM 13-Oct Maryland Comp. Riders Loc: Roy Rogers Ridgeville Blvd. & RT-27 Mt. Airy, MD Info: Ed Phelps (410)781-7521 Poker Run 11:00 AM 20-Oct Baltimore Ramblers Loc: Club Grounds 5513 Deer Park Road Reisterstown, MD Info: Clubhouse (410) 833-5795 Poker Run 10:00 AM Please contact the info number to confirm the event if weather is questionable. For more information, contact Russell Fleming (410) 374-9687 Road Riding Chairman AMA District #7. Tell him Jeff sent you! Jeff DeLauder '84 Yamaha XVZ12TDL From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 6 23:04:07 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 23:02:44 -0400 To: ajpags@XXXXXX, race-l@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: Summit info... >The practice starts at 9...how many sessions can I expect to get??? Is >there a noise regulation at summit??? What time does the practice end??? Several folks had questions... I think you could expect four or five 20 minute sessions (rain or shine). We'll start with 4 sets (big/little/expert/novice) and evaluate bike density as the day progresses. We will run til 6pm I think. Also, the $15 gate fee is good for the whole weekend. rich From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 6 23:22:41 1996 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 23:21:48 -0400 X-Sender: ajpags@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Rich and Leslie Sturges , race-l@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX From: Anthony Pagliaroli Subject: Re: Summit info... At 11:02 PM 6/6/96 -0400, Rich and Leslie Sturges wrote: > Several folks had questions... I think you could expect four or five 20 Hey Rich..you skipped one....the noise regulation question.... You guys don't have a production class, only SS and SB, so a noise regulation might be tough for someone who has never run there before. Also, can you run down the class structure, schedule, and combinations for this coming weekend if it's handy??? Thanks again for the info.... Tony Pagliaroli Bare Bone$ Racing CCS NE Am#989 StreetBike Magazine Senior Editor 88 FZR400 88 Hurricane 600 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 7 10:36:20 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 07 Jun 96 09:59:42 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Newbie Congrats on your completion of the course. I don't have much bike advice for you but I was curious who your instructor was for you MSF course. I have a friend who teaches the course at PGCC every weekend, Steve Sklarow. How'd it go? Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX <---new address "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." <---old sig. RZ-350, CB-1, RD400F <---older bikes ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Newbie Author: Andrew Maddox at MNGNET Date: 6/6/96 6:42 PM Hey, all! It's the classic "hi, I'm new here" post - just starting riding this year, finished the MSF course at PGCC, got the license, now I'm shopping! [clip] Andy Maddox, madsox@XXXXXX etc. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 7 10:58:11 1996 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:57:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Maddox To: tjoseph@XXXXXX cc: Cycling List Subject: Re: Newbie In-Reply-To: <199606071255.FAA00543@dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 7 Jun 1996 tjoseph@XXXXXX wrote: > Andrew: Give us more information, like your size, for instance. And how > much do you like working on mechanical devices. Oh, yeah. Those little details! 8-) I'm 5'10", 170lbs. GF is another 135lbs. And I like tinkering. I do all my bicycle repairs, and most of my car maintenance. I plan on becoming very familiar with whatevr bike I get, so I can fix it when it breaks down in the middle of nowhere. And my price range, I'm looking to spend about a grand. Thanks for the welcome! Good bunch on this list! Andy ----- "We're neither pure, nor wise, nor good; we'll do the best we know" "Once you have found her, never let her go!" Missives from madsox, Marlea's Guy From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 10 19:07:46 1996 From: "McLoone, William J." To: KZ List , Balt-Cycles List , DC-Cycles List , "'Motolist'" , NJ-Cycles List Subject: KZ Seat Date: Mon, 10 Jun 96 16:42:00 EST Encoding: 30 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 NOTE: This has been cross posted to several lists, please delete this message if you have seen it already. I am gearing up to do a few long trips and need to address some sore points with my saddle (sorry, I couldn't resist being punny). I have a 1982 Kawasaki KZ-750E with a stock seat. After about 100 miles or so it gets pretty uncomfortable. I'd like to get a replacement or modify it so it will be more comfortable for extended saddle times. If anyone can provide me with useful suggestions or preferable someone who can manufacture a seat for me, I'd appreciate it. If you want to minimize list traffic send to me at On an older bike I used one of the beaded style seat covers but found it marked up the seat and wasn't totally effective so I want to try something else. So far I have called Corbin and Mustang and neither place was able to help me. No surprise there. I think my plan is going to be finding an old seat pan from a boneyard and try to find someone who can remanufacture me a more comfy ride. If you found something that worked well for you I'd like to hear about it. TIA Bill McLoone '82 Susuki GS-450TXz (SOLD) '81 Yamaha XS-11H (50% mine) Burtonsville, MD USA '82 Kawasaki KZ-750E (all mine) 1-800-AMA-JOIN BK-MD I "Ride with Pride" From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 11 12:09:58 1996 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 09:08:04 -0700 X-Sender: nranone2@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: nranone2@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) Subject: FS 82 Yamaha 400 parts bike A friend bought a 400 Maxim that wasn't running. He brought it to my house and asked me to help him get it running. Three hours into it I had it idling, but it died when I rolled the throttle. I used the choke to run it and rode it around my block to "blow it out." Turns out the front wheel wasn't on well, and it came loose. I bounced off a dumpster doing 25. Front fork and handle bar are bent, headlamp gone, brake pedal broken. It would be cheaper to sell it and start over. So I am now selling a parts bike for $200. The title is available, but it would cost $45 because he would have to title it in his name first. Does anyone know someone looking for a 82 Yamaha 400 Maxim. Nick Ranone 360 4584 From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 12 13:29:45 1996 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "Motolist" , "DC Cycles" , "LD Rider" , "HSTA" Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 13:38:28 +0600 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: More Stupid Human Tricks I had two experiences with Incredibly Stupid People (ISP), in cars of course, that I thought I'd pass on to some motorcycle lists. We all have these stories, I know, but it's just another reminder that it's a jungle out there. #1: Light rain during evening rush hour traffic. ISP to the left of me delays braking for a traffic light, then locks the right front wheel and keeps it locked while sliding toward the light. He decides it's better to take me out than to hit a car, so starts steering into my lane. I/m braking as much as I dare (wish I had ABS!) and am holding the air horns on constantly. He steers back into his lane. #2: Narrow, unmarked two-lane country road with no shoulders, and trees and shrubs right up to the pavement edge. Pickup truck at right-angles across the road, with one front wheel over the edge, bumper up against a tree. No evidence of body damage on the truck -- he did this deliberately! Why he chose the worst possible place to turn around, and then assumed that he could drive off the pavement to turn around ... well, who knows why ISP do things! ride smart, Chris Norloff cnorloff@XXXXXX http://www.os2bbs.com Norloff's OS/2 Shareware BBS From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 12 14:04:09 1996 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:03:56 -0400 From: Jeremy Wallace Organization: The Education Trust X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Falling Water Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm going to Frank Lloyd Wright's Falling Water house in western PA this weekend June 15-16. Does anyone know any great roads out there? Will anyone be out there? How long will it take from Washington DC, assuming I'm looking for good, two-laned twisties? Does anyone know any cheap motels out there? Jeremy From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 12 15:17:48 1996 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.0) From: John Nelson Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 15:19:10 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Cleaning my chain Question about cleaning the chain on my bike. I notice a number of products in the store like "Gunk" and others which are for cleaning auto engine parts. Can these be used to clean a chain? Is mineral spirits an ok alternative? Gotta watch out that I don't damage those O-rings. - John --- John T. Nelson MCI Metro John.Nelson@XXXXXX (NeXT mail preferred) SRMS 1.0 Development Team CAMS Home Page: http://www.computation.com/pub/hacker/CAMS/ "Life is like a motorcycle - it's sometimes unpredictable, you don't always know where you're going and you can't go backwards." -- John T. Nelson From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 12 15:54:22 1996 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 16:02:01 +0600 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cleaning my chain >Question about cleaning the chain on my bike. I notice a number of products >in the store like "Gunk" and others which are for cleaning auto engine parts. >Can these be used to clean a chain? Is mineral spirits an ok alternative? > >Gotta watch out that I don't damage those O-rings. That's the hard part: cleaning well enough to get the grime off, but don't let any cleaner get past the o-rings. I use WD-40 -- spray on liberally, wipe off. I think kerosene is also recommended by chain manufacturers. Chris Norloff cnorloff@XXXXXX http://www.os2bbs.com Norloff's OS/2 Shareware BBS From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 12 18:03:45 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 16:46:46 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cleaning my chain That Gunk Engine Brite stuff is pretty caustic so I wouldn't use it on an o-ring chain. I simply dip the chain through a pan of mineral spirits or kerosene with it on the bike (but off the rear sprocket). It is not necessary to soak it or scrub it, just rub the crap off with your fingers. Then dry it and lube it. Oh and don't smoke while doing this. :) Personally I think the high-priced, "O-Ring-Friendly" chain cleaners are just a bunch of money-sucking marketing schemes. But hey, I buy generic brand cookies also. Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." RZ350, CB-1, RD400F ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Cleaning my chain Author: John.Nelson@XXXXXX at MNGNET Date: 6/12/96 3:19 PM Question about cleaning the chain on my bike. I notice a number of products in the store like "Gunk" and others which are for cleaning auto engine parts. Can these be used to clean a chain? Is mineral spirits an ok alternative? Gotta watch out that I don't damage those O-rings. - John --- John T. Nelson MCI Metro John.Nelson@XXXXXX (NeXT mail preferred) SRMS 1.0 Development Team CAMS Home Page: http://www.computation.com/pub/hacker/CAMS/ "Life is like a motorcycle - it's sometimes unpredictable, you don't always know where you're going and you can't go backwards." -- John T. Nelson From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 13 00:53:35 1996 From: Dark Hacker Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 00:53:21 -0400 (EDT) To: cnorloff@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, hsta@XXXXXX, ldrider@XXXXXX, motolist@XXXXXX Subject: Re: More Stupid Human Tricks Where's Darwin when you need him? - Hacker From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 13 10:33:46 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 13 Jun 96 10:21:24 To: 2strokes <2strokes@XXXXXX>, DC-Cycles Subject: Going to Summit Point this weekend? I am. Anybody want to ride up together from the Silver Spring area on Saturday? Or meet there? Any racers here we should drop in on? Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." RZ350, CB-1, RD400F From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 13 15:20:46 1996 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:20:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Captain Caffeine To: Cycling List cc: Spacenet Subject: MD Inspections MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HELP! Okay, the newbie has decided on and found the bike for him. That would be me, and an 81 CB650. Gonna pick it up this weekend. But there's a problem. I CAN"T FIND ANYPLACE TO GET IT INSPECTED!!!! No place in all of Montgomery County has a damned motorcycle-qualified inspection mechanic anymore, and I'm getting short on options! I've called every freakin' service station I can find, and none of them do bikes. I do *NOT* want to go to a canniba-er I mean dealer for an inspection, 'cuz we all know what they do. So, is there in fact anywhere in lower montgomery Co (I live in Bethesda) where I can go? How about up-county? Close by in P.G.? Anybody who can help me get this taken care of, so I can, oh, maybe register the dam' thing, will be my bestest friend immediately!! Ideas, suggestions, phone numbers, anything!! THANKS!! -ND --------- Andrew F. Maddox, SysAdmin with Attitude, Staff Sergeant USMCR It's just MY opinion, dammit! Union YES! Bikes - Booze - Bullets madsox@[radix.net vetsclub.umd.edu] From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 13 16:02:42 1996 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 16:00:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kevin S. Kalmbach" To: Captain Caffeine cc: Cycling List , Spacenet Subject: Re: MD Inspections In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII call the DIRT SHOP From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 13 19:16:10 1996 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 13 Jun 96 19:11:40 -0400 From: "Norwicke, Glenn" Sender: "Norwicke, Glenn" Organization: APA To: madsox@XXXXXX (Captain Caffeine), dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: MD Inspections X-mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.00 MHS to SMTP Gateway This an old response (1 month) to the very same question: "Green Meadow Exxon on Riggs Road where it crosses 410 (Hyattsville I think). These guys are _very_ good. I've had four bikes inspected by them with no hassle. I was rejected once for a bad tire (but It was _bad_)." I didn't post it but I saved it. Glenn 90'CB-1 (replaces my stolen 93'CBR600F2) *********Original Message Follows******************************************** HELP! Okay, the newbie has decided on and found the bike for him. That would be me, and an 81 CB650. Gonna pick it up this weekend. But there's a problem. I CAN"T FIND ANYPLACE TO GET IT INSPECTED!!!! No place in all of Montgomery County has a damned motorcycle-qualified inspection mechanic anymore, and I'm getting short on options! I've called every freakin' service station I can find, and none of them do bikes. I do *NOT* want to go to a canniba-er I mean dealer for an inspection, 'cuz we all know what they do. So, is there in fact anywhere in lower montgomery Co (I live in Bethesda) where I can go? How about up-county? Close by in P.G.? Anybody who can help me get this taken care of, so I can, oh, maybe register the dam' thing, will be my bestest friend immediately!! Ideas, suggestions, phone numbers, anything!! THANKS!! -ND --------- Andrew F. Maddox, SysAdmin with Attitude, Staff Sergeant USMCR It's just MY opinion, dammit! Union YES! Bikes - Booze - Bullets madsox@[radix.net vetsclub.umd.edu] ------------------------[ SMTP header ]---------------------- | Return-Path: | Received: from tove.cs.UMD.EDU by email.apa.org | via Connect2-SMTP 4.00 (0000207); Thu, 13 Jun 96 15:30:32 -0400 | Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU | by tove.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) | id PAA25755; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:20:45 -0400 (EDT) | Received: from news1.radix.net | by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) | id PAA29564; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:20:44 -0400 (EDT) | Received: from saltmine.radix.net (madsox@XXXXXX [204.157.34.40]) by news1.radix.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA27910; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:21:46 -0400 | Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:20:09 -0400 (EDT) | From: Captain Caffeine | To: Cycling List | cc: Spacenet | Subject: MD Inspections | Message-ID: | MIME-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ------------------------------------------------------------- *********End of Original Message******************************************** From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 13 23:43:37 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 23:41:53 -0400 To: BWEINER@XXXXXX, 2strokes <2strokes@XXXXXX>, DC-Cycles From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: Going to Summit Point this weekend? At 10:21 AM 6/13/96, BWEINER@XXXXXX wrote: >I am. Anybody want to ride up together from the Silver Spring area on >Saturday? Or meet there? Any racers here we should drop in on? Be sure to visit Team Charm, at pit out. rich From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 14 09:24:14 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 14 Jun 96 08:50:20 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Captain Caffeine Subject: Re: MD Inspections Try D&R in Kensington. 301-949-5928 Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." RZ350, CB-1, RD400F ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: MD Inspections Author: Captain Caffeine at MNGNET Date: 6/13/96 5:15 PM HELP! Okay, the newbie has decided on and found the bike for him. That would be me, and an 81 CB650. Gonna pick it up this weekend. But there's a problem. I CAN"T FIND ANYPLACE TO GET IT INSPECTED!!!! No place in all of Montgomery County has a damned motorcycle-qualified inspection mechanic anymore, and I'm getting short on options! I've called every freakin' service station I can find, and none of them do bikes. I do *NOT* want to go to a canniba-er I mean dealer for an inspection, 'cuz we all know what they do. So, is there in fact anywhere in lower montgomery Co (I live in Bethesda) where I can go? How about up-county? Close by in P.G.? Anybody who can help me get this taken care of, so I can, oh, maybe register the dam' thing, will be my bestest friend immediately!! Ideas, suggestions, phone numbers, anything!! THANKS!! -ND --------- Andrew F. Maddox, SysAdmin with Attitude, Staff Sergeant USMCR It's just MY opinion, dammit! Union YES! Bikes - Booze - Bullets madsox@[radix.net vetsclub.umd.edu] From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 14 09:26:38 1996 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:26:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Cannibal Monkey Enterprises Subject: ERC at NOVA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-VMS-To: IN%"dc-cycles@XXXXXX" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The Northern Virginia Community College, Alexandria Campus, is offering the Experience Rider Course next Saturday, 22 June, 8am-5pm. Course fee is $55, call 703-845-6085 or 703-842-6240. I just signed up for the course and they asked if I knew anyone else who would be interested because they want more than just three people there. Ted. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 14 11:04:54 1996 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 10:57:51 -0400 (EDT) From: John Blaine Godfrey To: Captain Caffeine cc: Cycling List , Spacenet Subject: Re: MD Inspections In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Captain Caffeine wrote: > I CAN"T FIND ANYPLACE TO GET IT INSPECTED!!!! > > No place in all of Montgomery County has a damned motorcycle-qualified > inspection mechanic anymore, and I'm getting short on options! I've > called every freakin' service station I can find, and none of them do > bikes. I do *NOT* want to go to a canniba-er I mean dealer for an > inspection, 'cuz we all know what they do. well, actually, there are a number of places you can get inspected. Battley Cycles in gathersburg being a fine example. If you are worrying about being scalped let the inspector know that you intend to do any repair work yourself. (attitude helps though. It's easier to catch flies with honey than vinegar.) best of luck john From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 14 11:19:03 1996 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "phil_r_akers@XXXXXX" , "Motolist" , "DC Cycles" , "HSTA" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 96 11:27:40 +0600 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Need MC Escorts for bicycles I'm posting this to the HSTA, DC-cycles, and motolist lists as a favor for a local rider. Please repost as appropriate. REPLY to Phil Akers at phil_r_akers@XXXXXX (note the two underscores in the user name) =============================================== "I am soliciting riders to volunteer as motorcycle escorts in the AIDS ride from Philadelphia to Washington, DC. There will be some 3,000 bicyclists riding the 150 miles in 3 days starting Friday, June 21. Food and tents will be provided. We only have 13 riders on the motorcycle safety team, and they ideally need about 30. So, if you're interested, please call me as soon as possible so that we can take care of the registration. I understand this is short notice, but the ride promises to be a great one." Phil Akers phil_r_akers@XXXXXX (202)488-9740 ext. 149 fax (202)488-0206 ================================================ From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 14 11:29:52 1996 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:29:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Kashif Shahzad Tajammul X-Sender: kashif@XXXXXX To: Captain Caffeine cc: Cycling List , Spacenet Subject: Re: MD Inspections In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Captain Caffeine wrote: > I CAN"T FIND ANYPLACE TO GET IT INSPECTED!!!! i was a newbie only about a month ago almost exactly in your situation....after calling hundreds of places finally found ONE and luckiliy that one is VERY close to where you live....try Amoco service station near the intersection of Falls Rd and River Rd.....that's where i got mine done recently.... Kash From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 14 11:36:02 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:36:07 -0400 To: "Chris Norloff" , "DC Cycles" From: sash@XXXXXX (Michael A. Dow) Subject: Re: Need MC Escorts for bicycles At 1:27 6/14/96, Chris Norloff wrote: *SNIP* >"I am soliciting riders to volunteer as motorcycle escorts in >the AIDS ride from Philadelphia to Washington, DC. There will *SNIP* Damn! All the good and noble rides happen when I can't attend! Cruelty, thy name is Buick!!!! -Sash From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 14 11:37:48 1996 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:37:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Captain Caffeine To: Kashif Shahzad Tajammul cc: Cycling List Subject: Re: MD Inspections In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII All right, this is better! Thanks, y'all! I've got the Potomac Amoco and Green Meadows Exxon, both with a "just come on in and we'll check it out for ya" policy, although Green Meadows is $8 cheaper. D&R in Kensington just lost their bike-qual'd tech recently, and haven't got a new one yet. I'll probably head over to the Exxon. Gotta go do some work, but thanks for the pointers! This weekend - I'm psyched! ND ---------- Andrew F. Maddox -- SysAdmin with Attitude -- Staff Sergeant USMCR It's just MY opinion, dammit! Union YES! Bikes, Booze, and Bullets madsox@[radix.net vetsclub.umd.edu] From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 14 13:39:29 1996 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:36:04 -0400 From: "Aki.Damme" Subject: Need MC Escorts for bicycles To: cnorloff@XXXXXX Cc: "DC Cycles" , phil_r_akers@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <9606141518.AA4500@quimby.os2bbs.com> X400-Mts-Identifier: [ /P=CITICORP/A=MCI/C=US/ ; MTASO90002US 0YhIff00002hQ ] X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.0.2-p8)/MIME sorry can't make it this weekend..too short notice but it sounds like it would have been alot of fun.. I was just thinking..imagine how much fun it would be if you had *bicycle* escorts for a motorcyle rally! Whoowee! Watch them peddlers try and keep up with 60mph motorcycles! Man, I'd PAY to see that! ;-) cheers, -aki From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 17 13:48:34 1996 From: "Mantei, Debra, SSg, OSD/C3I" To: "'dc-cycles-info'" Subject: FW: Lost Email Date: Mon, 17 Jun 96 13:38:00 PDT Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 ---------- From: Mantei, Debra, SSg, OSD/C3I To: dc-cycles-request Subject: Lost Email Date: Monday, June 17, 1996 12:11PM If anyone out there knows Andrew Mitchell who lives in College Park, MD; pls contact me (debra.mantei@XXXXXX or (703) 614-0596). He sent me an email wanting to look at my KZ550, but I accidentally trashed his msg and now I have no way to contact him! Can someone out there help? From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 17 14:26:33 1996 From: "Mantei, Debra, SSg, OSD/C3I" To: "'dc-cycles-info'" Subject: FW: Lost Email Date: Mon, 17 Jun 96 14:18:00 PDT Encoding: 20 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Andrew Mitchell has been found and we have spoken on the phone. Thx anyway out there. ---------- From: Mantei, Debra, SSg, OSD/C3I To: 'dc-cycles-info' Subject: FW: Lost Email Date: Monday, June 17, 1996 1:40PM ---------- From: Mantei, Debra, SSg, OSD/C3I To: dc-cycles-request Subject: Lost Email Date: Monday, June 17, 1996 12:11PM If anyone out there knows Andrew Mitchell who lives in College Park, MD; pls contact me (debra.mantei@XXXXXX or (703) 614-0596). He sent me an email wanting to look at my KZ550, but I accidentally trashed his msg and now I have no way to contact him! Can someone out there help? From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 17 16:39:56 1996 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:37:30 -0400 From: Warren Weiss Subject: Kawasaki Spectre To: DC Cycles Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Here's a longshot: Does anyone have a gif/jpg of a Kawasaki Spectre (made in 82 and 83 as both a 750 and an 1100). It's been so long since I have seen one that I forget the layout. Someone in the area is selling one and I wanted to have a look-see first. -- ************************************************************************* Warren W. Weiss VMI '87 wweiss@XXXXXX AMA # 409056 weiss@XXXXXX Hughes Information Technology Company Landover, MD Famous Last Words: "I will conquer Russia!" - Napoleon Bonaparte "I will conquer Russia!" - Adolph Hitler "Say, what's an alligator doing way up here in a cloud bank?" - Captain of ValuJet Flight 592 ************************************************************************* From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 17 17:41:38 1996 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 96 17:25:34 EDT X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: , From: "Frank George" Subject: re:Kawasaki Spectre ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Warren Weiss <> Does anyone have a gif/jpg of a Kawasaki Spectre (made in 82 and 83 as both a 750 and an 1100). <> ===================================================================== I don't have a GIF, but if memory serves it was an LTD knock-off with shaft drive. They were black with gold trim (maybe even gold shocks). If you know what a Kawasaki LTD looks like (stepped seat, pullback bars), then you'll recognize the Spectre. Hope this helps. Frank George fegeorge@XXXXXX fgeorge@XXXXXX Reynolds Metals Company / Corporate Engineering "opinions are mine, ... mailbox is the company's" From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 17 18:53:44 1996 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 96 18:52:58 EDT From: acoope00@XXXXXX (Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington ) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Spectre I owned a 1982 Spectre 750 for 45K miles/7years. I certainly have photos (but, alas, no gifs/jpgs). The bike is/was a KZ750 outfitted with a shaft drive and air shocks. Although some were black and gold, mine (like many) was maroon and black. Unfortunately, 50,000 miles was about all that the bike had in it before some major work would have become necessary. It is a fairly easy bike to work on, though -- see-through air-cooled engine without much in the way of fancy doodads (that's a technical term). The bike is a bit on the heavy side; the seat is quite comfortable; the riding position is neutral. Gee, come to think of it, I wonder whether you are actually looking to buy the bike that was once mine?! If I can be of assistance, contact me: Cooper@XXXXXX D.C., Washington From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 18 17:43:01 1996 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:42:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Duncan D. Sterling" To: Captain Caffeine cc: Cycling List , Spacenet Subject: Re: MD Inspections In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Captain Caffeine wrote: > HELP! > > I CAN"T FIND ANYPLACE TO GET IT INSPECTED!!!! > No place in all of Montgomery County has a damned motorcycle-qualified Screw monkey county. Call Green Springs Exxon at the corner of Powdermill Rd. and Rt. 410 in Hyattsville. The proprietors own and ride bikes (last I heard), and are highly unlikely to screw you on an inspection. Last time I brought in a bike with minor defects, I got a certificate along with a "naturally you're fixing this (whatever minor defect) immediately when you get home, right?" comment as I drove away... Call them for an appointment. --Duncan From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 19 10:31:51 1996 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.0) From: John Nelson Date: Wed, 19 Jun 96 10:32:19 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Looking for Suzuki GSX1100-G A co-worker wants to buy a Suzuki GSX1100-G from between 1981-1983. At that time the GSX was a standard and was apparently quite a bike. If anyone has any leads on a clean bike, please drop me a line. - John --- John T. Nelson MCI Metro John.Nelson@XXXXXX (NeXT mail preferred) SRMS 1.0 Development Team CAMS Home Page: http://www.computation.com/pub/hacker/CAMS/ "Life is like a motorcycle - it's sometimes unpredictable, you don't always know where you're going and you can't go backwards." -- John T. Nelson From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 19 10:58:39 1996 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.0) From: John Nelson Date: Wed, 19 Jun 96 10:59:21 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Question about saddlebags and sleeping bags Ok, I rode to Philadelphia this past weekend and packed only minimal gear (tank bag, small travel bag and sleeping bag) bungie corded to the saddle. While this is economical and works... its also cumbersome since it restricts my seating position on Goliath (Nighthawk standard). I have to sit fairly far forward and I don't feel that junk bungie-corded to a bike is secure or particularly attractive... and Goliath *is* an attractive bike. So now I'm wondering what I can do to maximize the amount of stuff I can carry. I'd really like a nice pair of hard saddlebags that I can mount onto the sides of the bike. Any recommendations on reasonably priced hard or leather saddlebags? Lockable of course. The other issue is the sleeping bag. Damn if I could stuff that thing into a hard case that didn't suck down space on the saddle I'd be a happy puppy. What do you folks think would be a good way to go? Don't say "buy a Sport/Tourer"... I'm just liable to do it. :-) - John .--- John T. Nelson MCI Metro John.Nelson@XXXXXX (NeXT mail preferred) SRMS 1.0 Development Team CAMS Home Page: http://www.computation.com/pub/hacker/CAMS/ "Life is like a motorcycle - it's sometimes unpredictable, you don't always know where you're going and you can't go backwards." -- John T. Nelson From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 19 11:59:35 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:59:40 -0400 To: John.Nelson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sash@XXXXXX (Michael A. Dow) Subject: Re: Question about saddlebags and sleeping bags At 10:59 6/19/96, John Nelson wrote: >the sides of the bike. Any recommendations on reasonably priced hard or >leather saddlebags? Lockable of course. The other issue is the sleeping >bag. > Damn if I could stuff that thing into a hard case that didn't suck down >space on the saddle I'd be a happy puppy. What do you folks think would be a >good way to go? Buy a sport-tourer. JK. I have a pair of OSI quasi-hard bags (they have lexan-lined bottoms to help retain shape) that do me quite well. They are only locking, however, in the sense that you can buy a small lock and lock the two zippers on each bag to themselves -- probably not what you're looking for in terms of lockability. The only thing I have personally seen in the way of hard bags for the N-hawk is on the 250s the police use (I had one a couple years ago). They use those white fiberglass boxes. That reminds me! Check with Morris! He's selling his hard luggage from the Maxim!!! -Sash _________________________________________________________________________ Michael A. "Sash" Dow AMA# 403971 | HRCA Member | DoD# 1808 | Ask me about the CAMS! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Present: '94 Honda VF750C Magna (Sick but recovering) Past: '92 Honda CB250M Nighthawk '87 Honda Elite 150 Scooter _________________________________________________________________________ "Love is a matter of chemistry; sex is a matter of physics." /-/ College is a fountain of knowledge... and the students are there to drink. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 19 13:01:26 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:59:34 -0400 To: John.Nelson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: Looking for Suzuki GSX1100-G At 10:32 AM 6/19/96 -0400, John Nelson wrote: >A co-worker wants to buy a Suzuki GSX1100-G from between 1981-1983. At that >time the GSX was a standard and was apparently quite a bike. I believe that there was no 'x' in the GS1100 series in that time frame. I had an '81 and loved it. Now I enjoy bike that weight 200# less. >If anyone has any leads on a clean bike, please drop me a line. Sorry. rich From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 19 13:22:28 1996 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 19 Jun 96 13:31:49 +0600 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Question about saddlebags and sleeping bags >So now I'm wondering what I can do to maximize the amount of stuff I can >carry. I'd really like a nice pair of hard saddlebags that I can mount onto >the sides of the bike. Any recommendations on reasonably priced hard or >leather saddlebags? Today's hard saddlebags are so expensive (to me) that I don't really entertain thoughts of buying them. I'd try motorcycle salvage yards for saddlebags, such as P&F in Dover, Delaware. I'd also try non-motorcycle containers: photographers cases, military ammo cans and other cases, and good ol' Rubbermaid housewares products. You can buy after-market locks from a good "Lock and Key" store. Sounds odd, I know, but I've met people who spend as much on luggage as I spent on my first bike -- that's an easy choice for me to make. And, if someone is going to break into your luggage, all they need is an ordinary hammer -- the expensive plastic breaks as easily as the cheap plastic. Or ... spend $100 on a basic set of cloth saddlebags to use just for travelling. When you stop, throw a lightweight travel cover over the bike so people won't know what you have there. > The other issue is the sleeping bag. > Damn if I could stuff that thing into a hard case that didn't suck down >space on the saddle I'd be a happy puppy. What do you folks think would be a >good way to go? I'd buy a "river-bag", like kayakers and canoeists use. The bags are heavy-duty and waterproof -- just the thing for your all-important sleeping gear. Many of the bags have compression straps so you can really crush down what's in the bag (just don't store your sleeping bag stuffed in the sack, 'cause the sleeping bag will compress permanently and you'll lose your insulation). Chris Norloff cnorloff@XXXXXX http://www.os2bbs.com Norloff's OS/2 Shareware BBS From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 19 13:33:29 1996 In-Reply-To: <7531786501D9C1AA> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 96 13:32:01 -0400 From: "Norwicke, Glenn" Sender: "Norwicke, Glenn" Organization: APA To: sturges@XXXXXX (Rich and Leslie Sturges) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Looking for Suzuki GSX1100- X-mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.00 MHS to SMTP Gateway Actually there is such a bike (GSX1100-G). I believe it used a detuned GSX-R1100 engine. It was a standard and had shaft drive. I have seen a couple and they look really nice. Glenn '90 CB-1 *********Original Message Follows******************************************** At 10:32 AM 6/19/96 -0400, John Nelson wrote: >A co-worker wants to buy a Suzuki GSX1100-G from between 1981-1983. At that >time the GSX was a standard and was apparently quite a bike. I believe that there was no 'x' in the GS1100 series in that time frame. I had an '81 and loved it. Now I enjoy bike that weight 200# less. >If anyone has any leads on a clean bike, please drop me a line. Sorry. rich ------------------------[ SMTP header ]---------------------- | Return-Path: | Received: from tove.cs.UMD.EDU by email.apa.org | via Connect2-SMTP 4.00 (0000207); Wed, 19 Jun 96 13:11:07 -0400 | Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU | by tove.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) | id NAA27446; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:01:26 -0400 (EDT) | Received: from skippy.umiacs.UMD.EDU | by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) | id NAA21520; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:01:25 -0400 (EDT) | Received: from smtp2.erols.com | by skippy.umiacs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) | id NAA02498; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:01:24 -0400 | Received: from erols.com.erols.com (ppp84.erols.com [205.252.17.84]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA11342; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:01:19 -0400 (EDT) | Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960619165934.00684b40@XXXXXX> | X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX | X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) | Mime-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" | Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:59:34 -0400 | To: John.Nelson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX | From: Rich and Leslie Sturges | Subject: Re: Looking for Suzuki GSX1100-G ------------------------------------------------------------- *********End of Original Message******************************************** From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 19 13:56:11 1996 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:55:47 -0400 From: Jeremy Wallace Organization: The Education Trust X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Looking for Suzuki GSX1100- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Norwicke, Glenn wrote: > > Actually there is such a bike (GSX1100-G). I believe it used a detuned > GSX-R1100 engine. It was a standard and had shaft drive. I have seen a > couple and they look really nice. > > Glenn '90 CB-1 What does detuned mean? It sounds like something you would NOT want to do to an engine. Are there actual advantages? Or is it just like the calcuator that I had in seventh grade: I took off the outside case and it had three extra function keys that weren't available in my cheap model. (one of my friends in High School had a GS1100E (or ES). It was a bad m.f. that nearly got us both killed a couple of times. And it did weigh a ton.) Jeremy From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 19 14:20:00 1996 In-Reply-To: <7A31786501D9C1AA> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 96 14:16:33 -0400 From: "Norwicke, Glenn" Sender: "Norwicke, Glenn" Organization: APA To: jwallace@XXXXXX (Jeremy Wallace) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Looking for Suzuki GSX1100- X-mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.00 MHS to SMTP Gateway When a manufacturer "de-tunes" an engine they usually place greater emphasis on having less overall torque/horsepower but more of it available at a lower rpm. This usually provides a broader powerband (meaning not all the power lies in one area of the rpm range) and is generally considered to be better suited for street riding. Glenn 90' CB-1 *********Original Message Follows******************************************** Norwicke, Glenn wrote: > > Actually there is such a bike (GSX1100-G). I believe it used a detuned > GSX-R1100 engine. It was a standard and had shaft drive. I have seen a > couple and they look really nice. > > Glenn '90 CB-1 What does detuned mean? It sounds like something you would NOT want to do to an engine. Are there actual advantages? Or is it just like the calcuator that I had in seventh grade: I took off the outside case and it had three extra function keys that weren't available in my cheap model. (one of my friends in High School had a GS1100E (or ES). It was a bad m.f. that nearly got us both killed a couple of times. And it did weigh a ton.) Jeremy ------------------------[ SMTP header ]---------------------- | Return-Path: | Received: from tove.cs.UMD.EDU by email.apa.org | via Connect2-SMTP 4.00 (0000207); Wed, 19 Jun 96 14:03:49 -0400 | Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU | by tove.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) | id NAA28146; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:56:10 -0400 (EDT) | Received: from skippy.umiacs.UMD.EDU | by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) | id NAA24080; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:56:08 -0400 (EDT) | Received: from mail.Clark.Net | by skippy.umiacs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) | id NAA03980; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:56:05 -0400 | Received: from jwallace-ppp.clark.net (jwallace.clark.net [168.143.23.152]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA22949 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:56:02 -0400 (EDT) | Message-ID: <31C83F23.75FB@XXXXXX> | Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:55:47 -0400 | From: Jeremy Wallace | Organization: The Education Trust | X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) | MIME-Version: 1.0 | To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX | Subject: Re: Looking for Suzuki GSX1100- | References: <7631786501D9C1AA@XXXXXX> | Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------------------------------------------------------------- *********End of Original Message******************************************** From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 19 14:25:05 1996 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:24:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Captain Caffeine To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Lookin' for leather in all the wrong places... In-Reply-To: <9606191720.AA2961@quimby.os2bbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII At least, not the right places to find stuff I like. This would be cycle dealers. Selection's okay, but tends toward the color-coordinated street-racer-on-a-crotch-rocket look, or the whips-n-chains fetish style. As a crotchety old newbie, I kinda want to find something more middle-of-the-road for a good riding jacket. So, does anybody have any other place they've found a decent jacket (pants next), whether a cycling store or someplace else, on the MD-DC side of things? Or any favorite mailorder sources? I'd love some more options. Thanks, Andy ---------- Andrew F. Maddox -- SysAdmin with Attitude -- Staff Sergeant USMCR It's just MY opinion, dammit! Union YES! Bikes, Booze, and Bullets madsox@[radix.net vetsclub.umd.edu] From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 19 14:47:48 1996 X-Ms-Tnef-Correlator: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'DC-Cycles'" Subject: GSX 1100G Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:41:27 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Encoding: 22 TEXT, 42 UUENCODE X-Ms-Attachment: WINMAIL.DAT 0 00-00-1980 00:00 >> Actually there is such a bike (GSX1100-G). I believe it used a detuned >> GSX-R1100 engine. It was a standard and had shaft drive. >What does detuned mean? It sounds like something you would NOT want to >do to an engine. Are there actual advantages? Detuned means that the edge was taken off for better midrange performance (the puppy pulls 5th gear smoothly from just over 2000 RPM) The advantages are somewhat longer engine life and less futzing with the shift lever - this ain't a cutting edge racer replica, after all - it's a UJM. >(one of my friends in High School had a GS1100E (or ES). It was a bad >m.f. that nearly got us both killed a couple of times. And it did weigh a ton.) The latter day GSX 1100 still weighs a ton But it has SUCH a lovely motor I won't discuss what mine eyes have seen the speedo register in a public forum, suffice it to say that I have seen 60 mph appear in the 3 second bracket almost immediately after shifting up from 1st... begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(BT2`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` M& ```$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0F `0`A````-34R.$(R M0T(Y14,Y0T8Q,4(U-S P,# P1C8S0D-"1#8`0 #NRQ MR[(H5\F>$<^U< ``]CO+U@```P`&$/>_2, #``<0]P(``!X`"! !````90`` M`$%#5%5!3$Q95$A%4D5)4U-50TA!0DE+12A'4U@Q,3 P+41( 4@ M!X ` '* +@&<@>0A@BR)0"&!L'\!.3U0B M4?L",!R0;R3W)= IL@.1(;8_!Q 0/R2<1"8Y MWP0@'* EH1RA(:!D+0`B4]X ) !) FD&DD,!HQ M'.!N< 20,,$#@6,=T2]2<'AU<' <@#,0'& $(#6M'* @+0`*P7,$8&\ M`!XR1;,=X 6Q15,>DB)&8B.A\2!V;2YF'J O`R! "L ]''%G-) ?@1V0-)$@ M:_\#$#FP'\(%H#,@.;!!(CSP;P>!*V$C81]A9#& (E!EQT)2'8 IP&XN*0J/ M"Y'_%%$;HDJU-H(+8#$C(P`<@/T>`2 A8Q/ 1Z%)U"*"2F$]2K5".A ?4A& M!D%50WY('7$6T!\P''$$8"G `````````-RG0,C 0A : MM+D(`"LOX8(!`````````"X````>`/@_`0```!4```!3>7-T96T@061M:6YI M To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Looking for a Karman Ghia Volkswagan 16: 00:55 Opening file C:\SMTPLINK\TEMP\SM179908 16: 00:55 Handle open = 10 Sorry folks, but if anyone knows of a Ghia for sale, I'd like to hear about it. Thanks in advance! Daren 16:00:55 Handle closed = 10 16:00:55 Deleting file C:\SMTPLINK\TEMP\SM179908 16:00:55 Handle closed = 6 From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 19 18:09:03 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 19 Jun 96 17:15:54 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re[2]: Lookin' for leather in all the wrong places... Bill wrote: If you want a leather jacket because you want to look good in the saddle, I say buy the Hein-Gericke stuff from the mail-order folks. Germans may not have the best record as far as sociology goes, but they excel at making intimidating-looking leather garments. I say: Regarding Hein-Gericke: German name, Pakistani manufacturing. I have a Hein-Gericke Stealth Pilot and it is of superior quality. Expensive but covers the range of 45F to 90F comfortably. You will have a difficult time getting a leather jacket for all occasions. If I had it to do all over again, I might get a less expensive, hot-weather sporty leather jacket and a riding suit for the winter instead of trying to buy one for all seasons. BTW, Brockton has an add in this month's Sport Rider with some great prices on various sporty jackets by Hein-Gericke, Vetter, and Fieldsheer. Check it out. Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." RZ350, CB-1, RD400F From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 19 20:49:13 1996 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:49:12 GMT From: leavitt@XXXXXX (Mr. Bill) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Looking for Suzuki GSX1100- JN == John Nelson wrote: JN> A co-worker wants to buy a Suzuki GSX1100-G from between 1981-1983. JN> At that time the GSX was a standard and was apparently quite a bike. RS == Rich Sturges replies: RS> I believe that there was no 'x' in the GS1100 series in that time frame. RS> I had an '81 and loved it. Now I enjoy bike that weight 200# less. GN == "Norwicke, Glenn" then writes: > Actually there is such a bike (GSX1100-G). I believe it used a detuned > GSX-R1100 engine. It was a standard and had shaft drive. I have seen a > couple and they look really nice. Sorry to disagree Glenn, but as a serious Suzuki junkie (check the .sig :-) Rich's statement is correct. The key is his notation about "timeframe". John is giving us info that could point to two very different motorcycles. The 1100cc Suzuki shafties built between 1981-1983 were known simply as the GS1100G, without the 'X'. They came in two styles, the GS1100G which is a (sport)-touring standard and the GS1100GL which is more of a cruiser. Following the retro fad that started around 1990, Suzuki brought out the GSX1100G in 1991. This is the standard bred bike with the GSX-R based motor and shaft drive that you're thinking about. It certainly wasn't around in 1981-1983; the first GSX-R wasn't to be introduced for another couple years. Sorry John, I don't know of any GS1100G or GSX1100G cycles for sale. :-( Mr. Bill -- Bill Leavitt leavitt@XXXXXX | "Blow it out your ass, motorcycle man! AMA, ICOA, Lemans, KTC, DoD #0224 | I am THE DEVIL, do you UNDERSTAND?" HON: 82 CBX, 79 CX500C KAW: 72 H2 |________--Frank Zappa, "Titties & Beer" SUZ: 82 GS850G, 76 RE5, 75 RE5, 75 RE5, 73 GT380 "More bikes than brains!" From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 21 11:21:34 1996 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:19:14 -0400 (EDT) From: ldiaz@XXXXXX (Larry Diaz) X-Sender: ldiaz@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Looking for a good Honda dealer in the Rockville area. Also looking for Pacific Coast owners' comments on their bikes. I'm thinking of getting one. Any advice and recommendations will be appreciated. Thanks. LD From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 24 13:53:50 1996 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.0) From: John Nelson Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 13:53:26 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Boots I happened upon some good looking 13 inch engineer boots over the weekend. They're made by a company I've never heard of though: Walker Boots. Anyone have an opinion on these boots? There's an called Biker's Edge that advertizes their boots on the web. Their engineer boots look pretty decent too. Anyone had any experience with them? - John --- John T. Nelson MCI Metro John.Nelson@XXXXXX (NeXT mail preferred) SRMS 1.0 Development Team CAMS Home Page: http://www.computation.com/pub/hacker/CAMS/ "Life is like a motorcycle - it's sometimes unpredictable, you don't always know where you're going and you can't go backwards." -- John T. Nelson From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 24 14:32:33 1996 In-Reply-To: <2FCACE3101BD1190> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 14:28:49 -0400 From: "Adams, Bill" Sender: "Adams, Bill" Organization: USIA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Hondas in Rockville X-mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.00 MHS to SMTP Gateway T'aint none. There is a dealer in Aspen Hill at the intersection of Georgia and Connecticut Avenues called Cycles USA. I won't offer any opinion regarding my experiences with them, as I feel that everyone has a different perception of what they consider to be good service. Twinbrook Parkway to Viers Mill Rd. right on Viers Mill to Aspen Hill Rd. left on Aspen Hill Rd to Connecticut Ave. left on Connecticut to Georgia Ave. left on Georgia and immediately on your right will be the shop. Bill Adams 3Dmentia Computer Graphics and Animation 4016 Spruell Drive Kensington, MD 20895 301-949-9475 1966 Land Rover 109" S2A Diesel Station Wagon...all there 1987 Yamaha Virago 1993 Honda Nighthawk 1986 VW Golf From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 24 20:41:48 1996 From: AntietamMC@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:42:05 -0400 To: balt-cycles@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Looking for new places to ride?? For those of you new to this list, here's a list of upcoming AMA-sanctioned Road Riding events for 1996. All events are open to AMA and non-AMA riders and their passengers. Never been to one before? Try it, you'll like it! Come enjoy what Maryland & Delaware has to offer: 9-Jun Blue Ridge Road Riders Loc: JT Motorsports 5708 Urbana Pike (RT 355) Frederick, MD Info: Russ Fleming (410) 374-9687 Charity Ride 10:00 AM 14-Jul Diamond M/C Loc: Diamond Motor Sports Camden, DERt-13 & Camden Info: (302) 697-3222 Scavenger Hunt 9:00 AM 20-Jul Baltimore Ramblers Loc: Club Grounds 5513 Deer Park Road Reisterstown, MD Info: Clubhouse (410) 833-5795 Poker Run 4:00 PM 21-Jul Maryland Comp. Riders Loc: Cycle Connection 5220 Washington Blvd. Elkridge, MD Info: Paul Anderson (410) 788-5173 Poker Run 11:00 AM 4-Aug Chapter 451 Vietnam Vets Loc: Ft. Holabird 6401 Beckley St. Baltimore, MD Info: Vince Lombardo (410) 486-4666 Poker Run 9:00 AM 25-Aug Blue Ridge Road Riders Loc: JT Motorsports 5708 Urbana Pike (RT 355) Frederick, MD Info: Russell Fleming (410) 374-9687 Poker Run 10:00 AM 8-Sep Western MD MC Assn. Loc: Community Park @ Route 806 Thurmont, MD Info: Jack Pearre (410) 775-7209 Nostalgia Run 11:00 AM 15-Sep Baltimore Ramblers Loc: Club Grounds 5513 Deer Park Road Reisterstown, MD Info: Clubhouse (410) 833-5795 Poker Run 10:00 AM 22-Sep Blue Ridge Road Riders Loc: JT Motorsports 5708 Urbana Pike (RT 355) Frederick, MD Info: Russell Fleming (410) 374-9687 Quiz Run 10:00 AM 29-Sep 4-Seasons Road Riders Loc: Pizza Hut Rt 32 & 108 Clarksville, MD Info: (301) 831-7189 OR (410) 655-1420 Post Office Run 11:00 AM 13-Oct Maryland Comp. Riders Loc: Roy Rogers Ridgeville Blvd. & RT-27 Mt. Airy, MD Info: Ed Phelps (410)781-7521 Poker Run 11:00 AM 20-Oct Baltimore Ramblers Loc: Club Grounds 5513 Deer Park Road Reisterstown, MD Info: Clubhouse (410) 833-5795 Poker Run 10:00 AM Please contact the info number to confirm the event if weather is questionable. For more information, contact Russell Fleming (410) 374-9687 Road Riding Chairman AMA District #7. Tell him Jeff sent you! --Jeff DeLauder '84 Yamaha XVZ12TDL From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 24 21:14:08 1996 From: "McLoone, William J." To: KZ List , Balt-Cycles List , DC-Cycles List , East List , "'Motolist'" , NJ-Cycles List Cc: "Hackney, Ed" , "Stairs, Karen" , "Barnicle, Kitch" , "Matyi, Debbie" , "'Munno, Michael'" , "'Montgomery, Ed'" , "Zollinger, John" , "'Van Lenten, Debby'" Cc: "'Weinstein, John'" Subject: RCR Trip Report Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 20:56:00 EST Encoding: 273 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 NOTE: I am posting this to a few places to people with varying degrees of RCR Knowledge so please bare with me. This ended up being long but I think a good read if you want to know about the RCRV Covered Bridge Casual Group Ride and my weekend in general. A special thanks to all that kept me company on the road. Also, for all those in attendance who wanted my (Bill McLoone) email address it's in my sig. block at the end. ***** Bill McLoone's RCRV Trip Report ***** I attended the Fifth Right Coast Ride (RCRV) this weekend and had such a great time I had to share it with you. The RCR is the premiere Denizens of Doom ride on the east coast and was held at Camp WestMar in Thrumont, MD. Lucky for me it was in my own backyard...hmm, wonder where I'll have to run of to next year. I'm a lucky stiff and get to work a full day on Friday and when I finish at the office, only working a half hour overtime which with my salary job equals double what I make on weekends (goose egg), I saddle up and navigate my pre-loaded Yamaha XS-1100 H north to the camp. Leaving the city was a fun ride and reminded me why I only commute into the nations capital on the best days or when special events pop up. I arrive after my draining (can you just feel the sarcasm) trip of about 65 or so miles and immediately see some old friends from the Pine Creek Gorge Run and the HoHoHo both sponsored by that terrific host and NJ Denizen, Howard Carson. Out of close to a hundred folks I find I am welcomed and introduced around and already starting to make new friends. I'm feeling good but can't find my friend Mike Katz who I was supposed to meet no less than 30 minutes earlier. Turns out he saw me after I returned from the men's room and with the amount of sun he got riding the HOG that day, I wonder how I didn't spot him first. People are milling about and when one person decided it was time to eat their was a mad rush of about 40 of us to the local restaurant where I enjoyed the spread at the buffet seeing how my lunch break earlier in the day never happened. After Dinner the group hangs around having a few beers and the comradery begins. I meet folks from all over the east coast and even some from my own backyard. After hanging out a while most people head off to bed and some of us chatted longer as we talked about our plan for the next day. I figured I would get up late and ride to the western pan handle of Maryland and enjoy the day. Well since my bladder has it's limits, I woke up earlier than planned at about 9. Having showered before I went to bed I felt ready to face the day and went to the mess hall, after a brief pit stop, to have a bagel and donut. After eating and getting dressed I meet up with some of the folks I was talking to the previous night as we continue to ponder the plan of the day. We listen to the ride briefs and decide the ride for was the covered bridge tour. Irish Paul, who is so far with out a bike in the states, was looking for a ride and asked if he could join me. Having enjoyed meeting him and owning the closest thing to a goldwing in attendance (I won't insult the Harley riders buy comparing their road sofa's to that of a Japanese make), I offer him the pillion post. So we all suit up start the bikes and get rolling to see some covered bridges in PA. Well the first few minutes started a downward trend as I pass someone who has pulled to the side and later find that Pops also had trouble early on. The rule of thumb is you don't make a turn until you see the headlight of the person behind you. Apparently there where some riders without a thumb or a clue because turns where missed as riders left their post. I must admit that I broke the rule but after 10 minutes of not seeing anyone behind me and knowing that the guys behind me, who ended up disappearing, didn't wait for whoever was behind them, I figured their may not be anyone behind me anymore. Irish Paul and I chat for a while pondering what happened and then, not wanting to have the person in front of us not wait, we ask the nice lady on the lawn tractor to point other motorcycles in the right direction. Irish Paul and I ride off and I think that I should find a copy of the run sheet I printed out and see where we need to go in case the rider in front of us is no longer around. Paul starts to navigate and we continue on. The rider waited and as we discuss what has happened we see the gang approaching and ride off. During this leg we find that a new rider in a black and white jacket has missed a turn and can't be found, did we see her? No but know we understand what had taken so long. We continue on and find our Harley brothers chatting with a couple near a corner and they take the lead. With a slower group behind I follow along doing my best to keep the cruisers and followers all in sight. We pull through a little town and Irish Paul tells me to turn Right at the Light. We'll the cruisers went through the light but I see brake lights as the rest of the group pulls up behind, we had gotten separated crossing a highway, so I make the right. The group follows and we find the lunch spot. Well discussion ensues as we find that people didn't wait, including those in front of the cruisers who never waited at the light and not everybody was accounted for. It seems like two guys got turned around but they couldn't catch the Harleys to let them know. Pops is ticked off that the group was so disorganized so I suggest two smaller groups and I would be willing to lead a slower group after lunch. I get the rundown from the ride leader and Irish Paul is now charged to navigate a group through US country which he has never seen since arrive to the states only 3 weeks earlier. I figure he can read as well as me so I have no problem giving him the job. Besides I only volunteered to lead because the need was there and I had someone who could navigate. Well the quicker group heads out the Harley trio shows up and grabs a quick bite. I make sure everyone is comfortable with the route and I fill them all in on the type of ride I would lead. Since we had some folks who rode conservatively I was going to go the speed limit, I would stop frequently for gas (something about 80 miles a tank and no reserve?) and breaks. I would not make a turn until I could account for everyone, and I wouldn't push the group too much. Well 10 other riders decided they could live with that and stayed with me. The Harley trio had already been where we were headed so they gave me a few pointers and we saddle up and hit the road with Kate riding sweep. Down the road we pick up the riders refueling and in a group of 11, we ride west. Not really having read a map or knowing exactly where we where the road details will be shaky. We end up going through some nice back country where Debby waves at the cows and Mike hears them mooing back. Then through some twistie roads of a state park, down the mountain and head toward the bridge. Irish Paul points it out as I didn't even see it and I turn so people can go back and see it. Over a small grate bridge, I wasn't thrilled, we all gather and say the view was good enough and let's move on. You see this bridge was closed to the public and off the road a ways. Okay, we'll head on 850 north just like the sheet says. Hmm, the sign says east or west. As we dig out a map and see it won't help Sandy says go west. We'll see was right because just then the sport group who has now been through a few bridges comes by and confirms the direction. It's looking cloudy and I have everyone put on their rain gear so we wouldn't have to stop later. We find the next bridge and ride through it, ye-ha. The problem is the Y immediately on the other side and the wrong direction I picked. I went left and now need to find a place to turn around. Well we are on a small back road with fresh rain falling and I'm looking through two windscreens splattered with water. I'm not happy and turn left again to find a place to U-turn. Well I cross the stream and think that maybe this will get us back to the main road. Sure enough it does and we pull over and wait for everyone to catch up. A few minutes and I start wondering what happened. Then Debby (Bandit 600) and Dave crest the hill with Kate behind in sweep. It seems like they stopped to put on their rain gear but I'm not really sure. Anyway we are a group again and start to head back. Well back through the terrific state park it gets sunny again and I pullover in the ranger station to give folks a chance to un-don their rain gear and take a break. Irish Paul and I take turns at the corner pointing people in so they won't miss us. 1...2..3......9 bikes accounted for. Debby (virago) says they where right behind at the crest of the hill. We wait a few minutes and I get nervous and ask if anyone is an EMT. Mike looks at me and says "you are", and while he is correct I didn't want to leave the group. After all I can't lead my people if I leave (not that I was on a power trip). Debby (virago says she is but hasn't been riding long. Okay group, I'll go but stay so I can lead you more when I return. So quickly donning helmet and gloves, I race up the road to see what happened. This part was fun because I had the ability and the reason to open it up a little 8-). Not wanting to run over an accident I took blind turns a little easy and saw Kate and Dave on the side of the road. Everyone's okay, whew, no one's getting hurt on my watch, not that I'm on a power trip. I stop, turn on my flashers, dismount, and start CPR. Okay not really but it would make a great Rescue 911. Talking to Kate I find out that she got a little dizzy and felt she should stop. Since she knows she tends to suffer heat exhaustion I think it was a fine idea. Dave noticed she wasn't behind him anymore and went back to check on her. Well' she can ride with me but we need someone to ride her bike down the mountain. I suggest that Dave fetch a rider and he happily rides at a quick pace to get help although that was just an excuse to clean his tires and do his homework from CLASS. In minutes Dave shows up with Irish Paul, at this point I would suggest to groups that it's a good idea to pack an extra licensed driver for these moments. Paul is happy to ride Kate's bike, but only because he has yet to learn that it has no rear shocks, and we all transit down the hill safely. There is a few moments of warm wishes when the group gets back together and Kate thinks it will take a little while to get herself together. I announce it to the group and let them know that I will be waiting with Kate but if they want to journey on they are welcome to do so. They all stay which brings a tear to my eye as I am now a born leader, my people love me and will follow me to the death. Okay maybe not to the death but at least back to camp, not that I'm on a power trip. I slip Kate a cereal bar, we all hang out enjoying the sun which came out, except for Kate who is in the air conditioned ranger office. Kate's feeling better and it's time to hit the road. Since Dave looked out for Kate he gets a field promotion to sweep, Kate gets to be navigator, and Irish Paul gets demoted to a staff level rider. Not realizing how sore his butt would be later, everyone is happy. We journey on-ward and Kate is feeling better. Now she is feeling like all the water she drank has done it's job and needs to be set free. Obviously I thought she just needed to stretch her bum knee and I stop in a real pretty spot by a dam. Of course stopping there wasn't brilliant since it was on the wrong side of the road with limited parking that drops of quickly into the water, but my people love me and the group follows me to a halt. I learn Kate needs to go and she is off into the woods to go.. she must have been a girl scout. She returns and we all pose for a group picture. BTW if I can ever get a copy I would like one (of course the odds that anyone is still reading this far is slim) We hit the road again and I make a brilliant right turn. Following Kate's comment on how familiar this looked Dave again gets to play with his left hand as he blows by the group leads us to a u-turn spot and tells me I took a wrong turn. We turn around and find a little gas station to refill the I need gas every 80 motorcycle, which was getting close to it's limit. Sandy gets directions from cop and I decide to continue along the same route since we only have 20 miles to go. By this point Debby (virago) is getting very tired since at about 170 miles she has gone much further than her previous high millage day of 20 clicks. I want to keep my eye on Debby and am not confidant I can get back easily since I nor my navigator even knew we made a wrong turn. Since Dave had proven his navigation and riding skills I promote Dave again and let him take the lead. After all if we don't get back my people will not love me and he has a big tank bag with a map case and seems to know how to read it. This is fun because I can follow the group and chat mindlessly with Kate who was enjoying keeping an eye on Paul and her bike. After a little ways, Dave makes a wrong turn and puts us right where the cop told Sandy we should go so She tells him to go straight. I say let's do it and again we are on the road. Almost back to camp we decide to fill up so we'll be ready for the ride home in the morning. Debby (virago) is tired and can't ride any more. Loving my people as I do, Paul will take Debby's bike, Kate will take her bike again, and I will give Debby a ride back. After a brief set of instructions to Debby and lining up I have no been promoted to Passenger Pilot, David finds his home at sweep and I think Sandy or the Harley Trio led us down Rt. 15 to Thurmont. Feeling badly for Dave who is behind me and I am going very slow with Debby riding pillion who is loving it. Taking turns slow and smooth puts a smile on her face and she starts to cheer and clap after each curve. I enjoyed the apperception but was glad to be back and learn that there was still food left. At the end of a long day it turns into a long night with many beer consumed followed by Irish Paul's Peachtree (and I thought the Irish knew how to drink) and some gin. Paul gets a back rub for riding the CM400, I whine and get one of my own 8-). We talk about the days events and Irish Paul gets a lesson on the Birds and the Bees while Muffy rides Mr. Bills bike. The night draws on as friends old and new were getting re-acquainted after a wonderful day on the road. The next day I was waken early and got to sit in the sun as my friends started to head out. I thanked Mr. Bill who did an outstanding job as Grand Omm-Pah and did my share to clean out the cabin. Being so close I felt no need to leave early and waited till almost everyone else left before doing the same. As I traveled some back roads home in the sunshine I thought about how perfect my first RCR was. I was saddened at the thought the weekend was over and smiled at the memories and the sun in my face. I look forward to next year when I will see all my friends again and I can lead another casual ride, after all my people love me and I love them, not that I'm on a power trip. Bill McLoone '82 Susuki GS-450TXz (SOLD) '81 Yamaha XS-11H (50% mine) Burtonsville, MD USA '82 Kawasaki KZ-750E (all mine) 1-800-AMA-JOIN BK-MD I "Ride with Pride" From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 08:06:04 1996 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 08:05:53 EST From: "Daren Magness" To: balt-cycles@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Sorry, this is unrelated to motorcycling.... I am in the market for a Volkswagen Karmann Ghia. Looking for 1968 to 1974. Apologies for stepping out of the m/c forum. Thanks in advance! Daren Magness 202/646-2306 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 09:22:41 1996 In-Reply-To: <21D7CF3101BD1190> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 9:18:33 -0400 From: "Adams, Bill" Sender: "Adams, Bill" Organization: USIA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Boots X-mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.00 MHS to SMTP Gateway 13" Boots? Sounds as though you'd spend the better part of the morning just getting them laced up. You'll need some 14" socks to go with those! Bill Adams 3Dmentia Computer Graphics and Animation 4016 Spruell Drive Kensington, MD 20895 301-949-9475 1966 Land Rover 109" S2A Diesel Station Wagon...all there 1987 Yamaha Virago 1993 Honda Nighthawk 1986 VW Golf From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 09:38:21 1996 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:33:20 -0400 From: "Christopher A. Meier" Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Last Nights Storm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Came home during the storm last night to find that my RF900R had been blown over onto its right side. Must have been a heck of wind to blow over a 500lb bike. Just curious about two things: 1) Anybody else have the misfortune of having this happen to them? 2) What should I be concerned about damage wise? There is no visible damage except that the right handlebar is slightly bent. It took the full weight of the fall. Good news is that it prevented the plastic from being scratch and/or cracked, bad news is that the bar has a slight bend to it. After the rain ended, the bike started right up, and it ran fine on the way to work today (both mechanically and handling), but I was unsure whether I should be concerned about any thing else needing to be checked out. I know that motorcycles don't relly like being on their sides :-) Thanks, chris From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 09:51:29 1996 In-Reply-To: <25D7CF3101BD1190> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 9:41:59 -0400 From: "Adams, Bill" Sender: "Adams, Bill" Organization: USIA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RCR Trip Report...eeeech! X-mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.00 MHS to SMTP Gateway Does it seem odd that someone would claim a ride to be good and proceed to describe a torrent of gaffes and miscues or is it just me? This failure to coordinate properly is the primary reason for many motorcyclists to avoid group riding in the first place. BTW, I usually am not so picky about Email, as it it often hastily written and frequently formatted in stream-of-conscience. I found this writing to be so full of errors and bad grammar that I had to quit after a few paragraphs. Bill Adams 3Dmentia Computer Graphics and Animation 4016 Spruell Drive Kensington, MD 20895 301-949-9475 1966 Land Rover 109" S2A Diesel Station Wagon...all there 1987 Yamaha Virago 1993 Honda Nighthawk 1986 VW Golf From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 10:19:36 1996 From: "McLoone, William J." To: DC-Cycles List Subject: RE: Last Nights Storm Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 10:13:00 EST Encoding: 21 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 >Came home during the storm last night to find that my RF900R had been >blown over onto its right side. >1) Anybody else have the misfortune of having this happen to them? Yeah once, never park on a hill so it leans up the hill if there is wind forecasted. >2) What should I be concerned about damage wise? Check your battery to make sure it didn't crack in the jolt. Mine did and it's not real good for the bike. If this did happen make a thick mix of baking powder and water and brush it on to eliminate the acid and rinse it well. Other than that just check the bike over Bill McLoone '82 Susuki GS-450TXz (SOLD) '81 Yamaha XS-11H (50% mine) Burtonsville, MD USA '82 Kawasaki KZ-750E (all mine) 1-800-AMA-JOIN BK-MD I "Ride with Pride" From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 10:40:14 1996 From: "McLoone, William J." To: DC-Cycles List Subject: Re: RCR Trip Report...eeeech! Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 10:36:00 EST Encoding: 33 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Bill Adams cries out: >Does it seem odd that someone would claim a ride to be good and >proceed to describe a torrent of gaffes and miscues or is it just me? > This failure to coordinate properly is the primary reason for many >motorcyclists to avoid group riding in the first place. >BTW, I usually am not so picky about Email, as it it often hastily >written and frequently formatted in stream-of-conscience. I found this >writing to be so full of errors and bad grammar that I had to quit after >a few paragraphs. Sorry you didn't enjoy it, guess you had to be there. As for the "torrent of gaffes and miscues" we worked together and things got better which is what made the ride so great. Everyone on the ride ended up having a good time and would do it over again. Guess you should have read the whole report. As for the grammar, I didn't realize email was graded. Besides yours is not without errors, guess it was hastily written? As for your reply, If you didn't like my report fine, but let's not fill the list with Flame Bait. Enough said. Bill McLoone '82 Susuki GS-450TXz (SOLD) '81 Yamaha XS-11H (50% mine) Burtonsville, MD USA '82 Kawasaki KZ-750E (all mine) 1-800-AMA-JOIN BK-MD I "Ride with Pride" From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 11:26:06 1996 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:25:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: squeaks@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Adams, Bill" From: cheryl Subject: Re: RCR Trip Report...eeeech! Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Does it seem odd that someone would claim a ride to be good and proceed >to describe a torrent of gaffes and miscues or is it just me? > Its called "having an adventure!" Thats one of the things that adds spice to life. If everything was always neatly planned and organized, life would get SOOOO boring. Some of the best times Ive ever had, and therefore the best MEMORIES I have, are of the "crazy, disorganized, lets see what happens if we go this way" trips. PLUS, you get to know the people you're with better during those times, too. You stop and try and figure out what the hell you're doing, you laugh, you joke, and you work it out together. I read his entire post, and I think it ended up being a wonderful time!! I wish I could have been there..... __________________________________________________________ Cheryl-squeakers-ME! I am NOT too short...You're just too tall! ( did I mention that I like to bite? ) squeaks@XXXXXX http://www.bgcc.com/~cherylg/pat3.html Diplomacy - the art of letting someone have your way. '96 red HD Hugger "lil grape" '87 rebel cmx250c (no, it's NOT a toy!... vroom vroom!) If things get any worse, I'll have to ask you to stop helping me. The opinions expressed here are MINE and ONLY mine, but since Im NEVER wrong, they MUST be right!! From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 11:54:13 1996 From: Dalmas Randy To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Last Nights Storm Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:51:29 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Encoding: 61 TEXT Chris, You should have little to worry about, especially since this is a new bike and is undoubtedly in great shape. However, if you would like to check the bike over, look at these items in light of the fact that the bike landed on the right clip-on: - all clip-on bolts tight and straight (sometimes they get bent) - throttle movement is unhampered and all cables undamaged and unpinched - brake lever unbent and with proper movement - no damage or stress damage to the master cylinder or the brake lever mount (look for any seeping brake fluid) - steering head bearings (make sure there is no extra free play and no 'clicks' when the steering is moved lock to lock) - steering alignment - turn signals Otherwise, an overall check on the bike to make sure that items such as the battery, fairing, windscreen, ect. have no cracks or dents is a good idea. Chances are that any damage will be cosmetic and will not affect the bike. You've already passed the first test -- the bike rode and handled normally. As for the bent clip-on, you can try to bend it back into position, either attached o the bike or by using a vice. If it doesn't bother you being a little bent and everything still works, you don't have to bother. - Randy >---------- >From: Christopher A. Meier[SMTP:cmeier1@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 1996 9:33 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Last Nights Storm > >Came home during the storm last night to find that my RF900R had been >blown over onto its right side. Must >have been a heck of wind to blow over a 500lb bike. > >Just curious about two things: > >1) Anybody else have the misfortune of having this happen to them? > >2) What should I be concerned about damage wise? > >There is no visible damage except that the right handlebar is slightly >bent. It took the full weight of the >fall. Good news is that it prevented the plastic from being scratch >and/or cracked, bad news is that the bar >has a slight bend to it. > >After the rain ended, the bike started right up, and it ran fine on the >way to work today (both mechanically >and handling), but I was unsure whether I should be concerned about any >thing else needing to be checked out. >I know that motorcycles don't relly like being on their sides :-) > > >Thanks, >chris > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 12:22:58 1996 From: Dark Hacker Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:21:22 -0400 (EDT) To: cmeier1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Last Nights Storm My bike was on the center stand and stayed up the whole time. - Hacker From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 12:47:07 1996 From: "Bruce B. Dimon, VRC, Bayview, Idaho" Organization: CDNSWC Acoustic Research Detachment To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 09:49:12 PST Subject: Re: Honda Dealer in Rockville Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) > Looking for a good Honda dealer in the Rockville area. Also looking for > Pacific Coast owners' comments on their bikes. I'm thinking of getting one. > Any advice and recommendations will be appreciated. Although not a dealer, I liked Myer's Cycle in Kensington. They sell OEM Honda parts and their head mechanic is very knowledgable. North Idaho, the land of lakes and lattes! Vector Research Company, Inc. 208-683-2080 Computer Lab: 208-683-2321 X4410 Fax: 208-683-2036 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 13:10:33 1996 From: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:10:42 -0400 To: hacker@XXXXXX, cmeier1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Last Nights Storm In a message dated 96-06-25 12:34:58 EDT, hacker@XXXXXX (Dark Hacker) writes: << My bike was on the center stand and stayed up the whole time. >> My bike was in the garage and did not even get wet. Steve From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 13:16:20 1996 Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 13:08:20 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:59:04 -0400 From: B.Elwell@XXXXXX (Bill Elwell) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Last Nights Storm Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.923127538" --IMA.Boundary.923127538 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Regarding bikes falling on their sides, you seem to have covered most of the obvious bases (the bike runs, nothing is bent, no cosmetic damage). Since it bent the right handlebar, check to make sure that it didn't deform the bar under the throttle twist grip. This will cause the throttle action to be sticky. It happened to me and I had a real tough time figuring it out. Bill Elwell b.elwell@XXXXXX ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Last Nights Storm Author: "Christopher A. Meier" at INTERNET Date: 6/25/96 9:33 AM Came home during the storm last night to find that my RF900R had been blown over onto its right side. Must have been a heck of wind to blow over a 500lb bike. Just curious about two things: 1) Anybody else have the misfortune of having this happen to them? 2) What should I be concerned about damage wise? There is no visible damage except that the right handlebar is slightly bent. It took the full weight of the fall. Good news is that it prevented the plastic from being scratch and/or crack ed, bad news is that the bar has a slight bend to it. After the rain ended, the bike started right up, and it ran fine on the way to wo rk today (both mechanically and handling), but I was unsure whether I should be concerned about any thing els e needing to be checked out. I know that motorcycles don't relly like being on their sides :-) Thanks, chris --IMA.Boundary.923127538-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 16:50:26 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 16:18:11 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re[2]: Last Nights Storm Oh yeah! Well, one of mine braved the storm unscathed in the front yard and the other brought me home through the carnage. Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." RZ350, CB-1, RD400F ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Last Nights Storm Author: SRFox@XXXXXX at MNGNET Date: 6/25/96 3:21 PM In a message dated 96-06-25 12:34:58 EDT, hacker@XXXXXX (Dark Hacker) writes: << My bike was on the center stand and stayed up the whole time. >> My bike was in the garage and did not even get wet. Steve From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 20:48:50 1996 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 20:48:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Bass To: "Adams, Bill" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hondas in Rockville In-Reply-To: <60D0CE3101BD1190@usia.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Adams, Bill wrote: > T'aint none. There is a dealer in Aspen Hill at the intersection of > Georgia and Connecticut Avenues called Cycles USA. I won't offer any > opinion regarding my experiences with them, as I feel that everyone has a > different perception of what they consider to be good service. I bought my 1996 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic from them. Boy do they suck. I will never go there ever again. The wired the turn signals backwards. They scratched the fender during setup. My front brake was providing perhaps 20% stopping power. The front disk brake hanger was bent. They are rude as hell. Way to busy to perform any job with pride--constantly rushing. I took my bike back in for 500 mile service. While they did find the bent disk hanger, they left the gear oil filler cap loose as hell and gear oil dripped all over my garage floor. They should have caught the bent disk hanger during setup/installation. I had to pay for overnight shipping on the warrenty part, they would not. The guy who replaced my scratched fender put electrical tape on the thing to keep from stratching it again and his 'tape' job looked like shit. I had to bring it home and redo everything he had done to take the tape off. Stay away! From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 25 23:13:00 1996 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:58:54 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Last Nights Storm To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <31CFEAA0.5978@csc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, Christopher A. Meier wrote: > Came home during the storm last night to find that my RF900R had been blown over onto its right side. Must > have been a heck of wind to blow over a 500lb bike. > 1) Anybody else have the misfortune of having this happen to them? Yep,several times.One of the things about being in the military is that on most bases you have to park in an open parking lot.I've had two bikes blown over when they had less than 1k miles on them. You have to try and park with the right side facing into the wind.That way the wind will be blowing against the kickstand and it should be ok. BTW,this only counts if your bike has a cover.If it's uncovered,the wind won't bother it(unless it's a tornado/hurricane).And don't lock the cover to the bike if it's windy.I did that with my CBR.The wind blew up under the cover,but instead of blowing it off,the lock kept it on the bike, and it acted like a parachute and took the bike up over the kickstand. $780 worth of damage,not cool. -- Jesus built my hot-rod,Cthulhu designed my Buell. gnissley@XXXXXX Buell S1 Ltng GATB#1121 HSB#38DT From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 09:30:50 1996 From: Dark Hacker Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:30:33 -0400 (EDT) To: SRFox@XXXXXX, cmeier1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Last Nights Storm From: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 13:10:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Last Nights Storm In a message dated 96-06-25 12:34:58 EDT, hacker@XXXXXX (Dark Hacker) writes: << My bike was on the center stand and stayed up the whole time. My bike was in the garage and did not even get wet. A man with a garage... I hate you. - Hacker From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 09:34:19 1996 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:31:51 -0400 From: Warren Weiss Subject: VX 800 Info To: Bad Ass Bikers Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I have an opportunity to purchase a cherry '92 Suzuki VX 800. Are they any owners or previous owners who have any comments? I always liked the lines of the VX, but an 800cc twin just didn't seem like a powerhouse to me. This one does have a stage 1 jet kit, however. Another concern is vibration. Does anyone know if the "bar snake" is still manufactured? TIA -- ************************************************************************* Warren W. Weiss VMI '87 wweiss@XXXXXX AMA # 409056 weiss@XXXXXX Hughes Information Technology Company Landover, MD Famous Last Words: "I will conquer Russia!" - Napoleon Bonaparte "I will conquer Russia!" - Adolph Hitler "Say, what's an alligator doing way up here in a cloud bank?" - Captain of ValuJet Flight 592 ************************************************************************* From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 09:35:01 1996 From: Dark Hacker Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:34:49 -0400 (EDT) To: BWEINER@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re[2]: Last Nights Storm From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jun 25 17:03 EDT 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 16:18:11 Subject: Re[2]: Last Nights Storm Oh yeah! Well, one of mine braved the storm unscathed in the front yard and the other brought me home through the carnage. God that must have been exciting! I've ridden threw a couple really bad thunderstorms with wind and lightnening and all, but nothing of the magnitude like we had Monday! - Hacker From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 09:39:16 1996 From: Dark Hacker Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:39:01 -0400 (EDT) To: badams@XXXXXX, kbass@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hondas in Rockville Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX This doesn't sound like the same Honda dealer on Aspen Hill Rd that I know and love. In general they are quite good for service and sales. I can't explain your bad experience. Make sure the service manager knows about your problems and give them another chance. They're worth it. - Hacker From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 09:53:13 1996 From: "skip farmer" Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:54:49 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.1 10apr95 MediaMail) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: New Triumph bikes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am looking for a new bike and liked the new Triumph Thunderbird. I was wondering if anyone has one and how they like it. Part availablity is a concern (although hopefully I won't need any). It is also a three stroke instead of two or four and I am not sure how this will affect the ride and performance. I am going to test drive one this weekend and will let you know how it goes. Skip '87 Suzuki GS450 From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 09:58:11 1996 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 09:55:50 -0400 From: Warren Weiss Subject: Cycles USA Was: Hondas in Rockville In-Reply-To: Ken Bass "Re: Hondas in Rockville" (Jun 25, 8:48pm) To: Ken Bass , "Adams, Bill" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >> There is a dealer...called Cycles USA. > I bought my 1996 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic from them. Boy do they > suck. I will never go there ever again. I have heard that their service department has a less-than-stellar reputation, at least in the past, but I am extremely pleased with the accessories sales department. In particular is a gentleman by the name of Joe Bass. If you need any gear, give them a shot. Tell Joe I sent you. -- ************************************************************************* Warren W. Weiss VMI '87 wweiss@XXXXXX AMA # 409056 weiss@XXXXXX Hughes Information Technology Company Landover, MD Famous Last Words: "I will conquer Russia!" - Napoleon Bonaparte "I will conquer Russia!" - Adolph Hitler "Say, what's an alligator doing way up here in a cloud bank?" - Captain of ValuJet Flight 592 ************************************************************************* From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 10:06:33 1996 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 10:06:32 EDT X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Frank George" Subject: re:New Triumph bikes ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- <> It is also a three stroke instead of two or four ... <> ===================================================================== Three cylinder maybe? Frank George fegeorge@XXXXXX fgeorge@XXXXXX Reynolds Metals Company / Corporate Engineering "opinions are mine, ... mailbox is the company's" From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 10:07:35 1996 From: "skip farmer" Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:09:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: Morris Berman "Re: New Triumph bikes" (Jun 26, 10:03am) X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.1 10apr95 MediaMail) To: Morris Berman Subject: Re: New Triumph bikes Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks, I did mean three cylinder. On Jun 26, 9:54am, skip farmer wrote: > Subject: New Triumph bikes > I am looking for a new bike and liked the new Triumph Thunderbird. I was > wondering if anyone has one and how they like it. > > Part availablity is a concern (although hopefully I won't need any). It is also > a three stroke instead of two or four and I am not sure how this will affect > the ride and performance. > > I am going to test drive one this weekend and will let you know how it goes. > > Skip > > '87 Suzuki GS450 >-- End of excerpt from skip farmer -- ------------------------ Skip Farmer Silicon Graphics Chesapeake Region 12200-G Plum Orchard Dr. Silver Spring, MD 20904 (301) 572-3292 Email: skip@XXXXXX (301) 572-3280 Fax Email Pager: skip_p@XXXXXX WWW Address: http://reality.sgi.com/skip_clubfed ------------------------ From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 10:42:35 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:42:38 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sash@XXXXXX (Michael A. Dow) Subject: Re: Cycles USA Was: Hondas in Rockville At 9:55 6/26/96, Warren Weiss wrote: > >> There is a dealer...called Cycles USA. > > > I bought my 1996 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic from them. Boy do they > > suck. I will never go there ever again. > >I have heard that their service department has a less-than-stellar reputation, >at least in the past, but I am extremely pleased with the accessories sales >department. In particular is a gentleman by the name of Joe Bass. If you need >any gear, give them a shot. Tell Joe I sent you. I have been going to Cycles for 4 years now, have bought 2 new bikes there, and I have all of my service (that I can't do myself) done there. I have had nothing but good experiences there, with one exception. After my last month's encounter with a renegade cage, I had my bike delivered to Cycles for a damage estimate and evaluation. When I was able to head up there to sign over the check from my insurance company (which shall remain nameless) I got the first opportunity to survey the damage in some detail. Lisa handed me the written estimate listing all the parts they bought and how much time it would take to fix the bike, and I headed for the service bay. I had a good look over the bike. Bent front wheel, front & rear brake levers, worn cables, smashed headlight assbly and tach, cracked radiator, bent handle bars, scuffed upper pipe, and lo, a coaster-sized dent in my gas tank! I looked at the parts sheet and didn't see a tank listed on it at all. How could this be? It's right there in plain view, but somehow, the inspector missed it. I must admit that this rattled my confidence quite a bit. If he missed something as obvious as a smashed gas tank, how can I be sure that the frame's not bent? What if I had just signed the check and left? But, luckily, I did see it, told Lisa about it, and they added it to the list. I will continue to go to Cycles for service and accessories, but I will also tell them about my displeasure in their overlooking what in my mind constitutes major damage. There's nothing wrong with that. It's better to let them know when they make a mistake than just to go off in a huff and say, "I'm never going THERE again." -Sash From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 10:59:17 1996 From: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:59:42 -0400 To: skip@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New Triumph bikes In a message dated 96-06-26 10:04:07 EDT, skip@XXXXXX (skip farmer) writes: << Part availablity is a concern (although hopefully I won't need any). It is also a three stroke instead of two or four and I am not sure how this will affect the ride and performance. >> A three stroke would be something. I think you mean 3 cylinders. I rode a Speed Triple a few weeks ago. I can't remember when I have enjoyed a bike so much. Steve From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 10:59:59 1996 From: THOMASONCO@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:00:24 -0400 To: SRFox@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Garage Parking... In a message dated 96-06-25 13:22:20 EDT, you write: >My bike was in the garage and did not even get wet. I am a townhouse dweller without proper bike storage. Would anyone consider renting a portion of their garage space, a secure environment? Aspen Hill area perfered. Any other ideas would be help full. Building an adiquate shed was shot down by my ARC of the townhouse community association. Tx Dallas Thomason From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 11:05:24 1996 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:07:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Timothy Grall To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Selling my Nighthawk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Money is tight, so I have to part with my 92 Nighthawk 750. It was bought new in 94, has 5k miles, and was never dropped. Color is black, and comes with Shoei RF700 (L) and AGV (M) helmets. Price: $3,500. Must sell by 7/10. email me at tgrall@XXXXXX if interested. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 11:46:11 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 11:43:26 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re[4]: Last Nights Storm Maybe I mislead you. I wasn't temporarily insane enough to actually ride DURING the storm. It was exciting none the less riding through Rock Creek Park with all the tree branches and stream wash-over strewn across the roads. Broad Branch was a virtual sand bar. I knew I should have put the nobbies on Monday morning. Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." RZ350, CB-1, RD400F My next garage will have a house attached. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: Last Nights Storm Author: Dark Hacker at MNGNET Date: 6/26/96 11:22 AM From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jun 25 17:03 EDT 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 16:18:11 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re[2]: Last Nights Storm Oh yeah! Well, one of mine braved the storm unscathed in the front yard and the other brought me home through the carnage. God that must have been exciting! I've ridden threw a couple really bad thunderstorms with wind and lightnening and all, but nothing of the magnitude like we had Monday! - Hacker From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 11:46:41 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 11:26:56 To: fzr-400@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles Subject: Deals Gap Funny you mention Deals Gap. Last night on PBS was a show about a guy following John Muir's route in the 1800's. He's travelling on a BMW with a sidecar for his dog. They went through Deals Gap amidst all the sportbikers. When they stopped for gas and a snack they met up with someone thay had passed who had dumped his ZX-7. Apparently they call that stretch the dragon and the riders go "to slay the dragon." Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." RZ350, CB-1, RD400F ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: FZR-400: Touring Appalachia Author: fzr-400@XXXXXX at MNGNET Date: 6/25/96 11:32 PM Have you heard of Deals Gap on the Tennessee/North Carolina border? That's where we go every year. It's a stretch of highway 129 whose claim to fame is 318 curves in 11 miles. It's a relentless package of lefts and rights that will wear you out physically and mentally. If you blink or relax, off the side of the mountain you go! It's where squids hang out and try to break records, and usually end up breaking bones and bikes. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 12:31:00 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 11:52:34 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re[2]: Last Nights Storm Gil M. Nissley wrote: Yep,several times. One of the things about being in the military is that on most bases you have to park in an open parking lot. I've had two bikes blown over when they had less than 1k miles on them. Well there's your problem. More mature bikes have better balance. Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." RZ350, CB-1, RD400F Don't look outside folks, the weather will make you cry. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 14:01:41 1996 From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Cycles USA Was: Hondas in Rockville To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:01:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >> There is a dealer...called Cycles USA. > > > I bought my 1996 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic from them. Boy do they > > suck. I will never go there ever again. > >I have heard that their service department has a less-than-stellar reputation, >at least in the past, but I am extremely pleased with the accessories sales >department. In particular is a gentleman by the name of Joe Bass. If you need >any gear, give them a shot. Tell Joe I sent you. One thing I noticed was their prices seemed a little better. When I was in the area I asked about the price of a wire to the spark plug. I didn't get it then becuase I like in Alexandria, and the part would have to be ordered. So I figured I'd order it through Coleman's, it wasn't worth going back for. The price was almost $10 higher!! Plus Coleman's doesn't give a 10% AMA discount when you order things from the parts department. I belive Cycle's USA did. (could be wrong here). In the future I intend to phone orders to Cycles USA and make the trip for the part. It is worth it. Louis From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 14:23:17 1996 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:19:48 -0400 (EDT) From: John Blaine Godfrey To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re[4]: Last Nights Storm In-Reply-To: <9605268358.AA835814606@uu2455.marasconewton.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 26 Jun 1996 BWEINER@XXXXXX wrote: > > Maybe I mislead you. I wasn't temporarily insane enough to actually ride > DURING the storm. Wait. I don't understand. what was insane about driving in the storm. On my drive home before the rain began, two cars almost lane changed into my side. Once the rain began -- okay "when the skies opened" is a more accurate description -- and with a good foot of water running through some of the streets everyone calmed down and started driving more sanely. I got a little wet (rainsuit resting safely in my garage got nary a drop of water), but what's life without a little adventure. john From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 15:19:51 1996 From: Dalmas Randy To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Cycles USA Was: Hondas in Rockville Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 15:17:07 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Encoding: 43 TEXT Coleman is supposed to give a 10% discount to AMA and MARRC members, although they have gone out of their way in the past to avoid doing it. Don't start me on the subject of Coleman. They once tried to sell me a main jet for an RZ350 for $11 (or $22 for a pair). Needless to say I passed on the deal. I have never been to Cycles USA but may now give them a try... - Randy >> >> There is a dealer...called Cycles USA. >> >> > I bought my 1996 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 Classic from them. Boy do they >> > suck. I will never go there ever again. >> >>I have heard that their service department has a less-than-stellar >>reputation, >>at least in the past, but I am extremely pleased with the accessories sales >>department. In particular is a gentleman by the name of Joe Bass. If >>you need >>any gear, give them a shot. Tell Joe I sent you. > >One thing I noticed was their prices seemed a little better. When I >was in the >area I asked about the price of a wire to the spark plug. I didn't get >it then >becuase I like in Alexandria, and the part would have to be ordered. >So I >figured I'd order it through Coleman's, it wasn't worth going back for. > The >price was almost $10 higher!! Plus Coleman's doesn't give a 10% AMA >discount >when you order things from the parts department. I belive Cycle's USA >did. >(could be wrong here). > >In the future I intend to phone orders to Cycles USA and make the trip >for the >part. It is worth it. > >Louis > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 16:30:24 1996 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:26:28 -0400 From: "Aki.Damme" Subject: RE: Cycles USA Was: Hondas in Rockville To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: X400-Mts-Identifier: [ /P=CITICORP/A=MCI/C=US/ ; MTASO90002US 0YmkCd00000HT ] X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.0.2-p8)/MIME > Coleman is supposed to give a 10% discount to AMA and MARRC members, > although they have gone out of their way in the past to avoid doing it. > Don't start me on the subject of Coleman. They once tried to sell me a > main jet for an RZ350 for $11 (or $22 for a pair). Needless to say I > passed on the deal. > > I have never been to Cycles USA but may now give them a try... > > - Randy > ..Coleman by far is the biggest ripoff in the metro area..I won't even go into the crap they gave me...damn near went to court before Honda USA finally stepped in. Now I hear they have opened up a "Megamall" somewhere (Manassas?)...I've never seen such sleazy salesmen or outrageous prices on parts..how about $44 for two rubber spacers for a pair of rear turn signals? Went down the street to see Art at Cycles Accessory Warehouse and bought BOTH spacers for $7.50... cheers, -aki From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun 26 16:51:46 1996 From: Michael Majzel To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: email address change Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:50:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Can you please change my email address. I have a new ISP. old address: mmajzel@XXXXXX or pp002658@XXXXXX new address mmajzel@XXXXXX Mike From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 27 07:50:22 1996 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 08:00:10 +0600 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Last Nights Storm >Came home during the storm last night to find that my RF900R had been blown over onto its right side. Must >have been a heck of wind to blow over a 500lb bike. > >Just curious about two things: > >1) Anybody else have the misfortune of having this happen to them? > >2) What should I be concerned about damage wise? 1. Yes. Especially with a cover on. 2. I'd wash the area around the battery and battery drain to wash off any acid that may have leaked out. Wash around the gas tank filler cap if the cap is vented (and thus can let gas out). Also check all fluid levels. Chris Norloff cnorloff@XXXXXX http://www.os2bbs.com Norloff's OS/2 Shareware BBS From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 27 08:10:43 1996 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 08:20:32 +0600 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Re[2]: Last Nights Storm >Oh yeah! Well, one of mine braved the storm unscathed in the front yard >and the other brought me home through the carnage. One of mine survived the storm unscathed, inside the garage :-), and the other one died on my ... in the rain ... on Route 66 ... in traffic. Grrrrrrrrr. I backed it under the bridge, with some cagers, but after an hour the bike still hadn't dried enough to start so I left it. I returned later with a car and jumper cables, and it started right up by itself. It still didn't run right, so I must have still had some water somewhere. Maybe now I can find the problem! Chris Norloff cnorloff@XXXXXX http://www.os2bbs.com Norloff's OS/2 Shareware BBS From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 27 18:11:11 1996 Received-Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 18:03:10 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:08:36 -0400 From: B.Elwell@XXXXXX (Bill Elwell) Subject: Bike for sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part 1971 Honda 750 K1 - running since last parked 14 years ago. Poweroll big bore kit (950cc), Crane cam, Hooker headers. Just a few hundred dollars for the new loving owner. Bill Elwell b.elwell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 27 18:30:53 1996 From: Hal@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:30:18 -0400 To: Tucker2@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Hal@XXXXXX Subject: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? Howdy: My housemate has a Yamaha Virago with what I think might be valve clatter, and really needs a new tire. Anyone havge suggestions on where to take it in the Northern VA area for a valve job and tire that is also reasonable cost wise? Oh, and we have ruled out Coleman and Cycles USA already. Thanks! Hal Burke VA 1995 BMW R1100GSA From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 28 07:58:23 1996 From: ChrisHMann@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 07:58:37 -0400 To: Hal@XXXXXX, Tucker2@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? take it to cycle sport in herndon....they've always done a good job for me recommended by many people... they fixed the front end of my yamaha seca....gave me an estimate...then found out it needed some more work...but stuck to the estimate.... which suited me just fine... chris From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 28 08:25:28 1996 From: Snider@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 28 Jun 96 08:24:07 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? I work at Bailey's Crossroads and discovered a small shop that happened to be walking distance (or bike pushing distance . . .) from my office. They are a small shop and didn't seem to have a flat hourly rate like Cycles or Coleman. They said they kind of charge by the job. They were very cool to me when I was first sorting out the kinks of my recently purchased 16 year old bike. I had it in there a few times because I couldn't get it started. They were able to start it right up and did not charge me a cent. I have not had any major work done there, so the verdict is probably still out. They also tend to take a while to get to things (especially in early spring when they are swamped) because there are basically only 2 guys working on the bikes. They are located just off Leesburg pike just west of Carlin Springs Road. The phone number is (703) 820 - 3711. A friend currently has his bike in there now, so he might be able to give a better idea on their service. If anyone else knows these guys, I would be interested to see what their reputation is. They seem like pretty honest fellows who love to work on bikes and are not in it solely for the money. Good Luck! _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? Author: Hal@XXXXXX Date: 6/27/96 6:55 PM Howdy: My housemate has a Yamaha Virago with what I think might be valve clatter, and really needs a new tire. Anyone havge suggestions on where to take it in the Northern VA area for a valve job and tire that is also reasonable cost wise? Oh, and we have ruled out Coleman and Cycles USA already. Thanks! Hal Burke VA 1995 BMW R1100GSA From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 28 09:53:58 1996 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:53:23 -0400 From: Jeremy Wallace Organization: The Education Trust X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: two blue hondas for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 82 Nighthawk 750 runs strong. looks good. great cruiser $1,000 88 Hawk 650 great condition. New rear tire and brakes. supertrap. $2,600 Jeremy From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 28 10:20:00 1996 From: Dalmas Randy To: "'Snider@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:17:11 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Encoding: 72 TEXT I have taken my bikes to Crossroads Cycle for the past 4 years, and have received nothing but excellent service. They are up front and honest, and tell you what they did to your bike. I have also pestered him enough times for information and advice. Dennis also has helped me set up my race bike and has done a very thorough job, and he even taught me a thing or two. Highly recommended. Easily one of the best shops in Northern VA. - Randy >---------- >From: Snider@XXXXXX[SMTP:Snider@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, June 28, 1996 4:24 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? > > >I work at Bailey's Crossroads and discovered a small shop that happened >to be >walking distance (or bike pushing distance . . .) from my office. They >are a >small shop and didn't seem to have a flat hourly rate like Cycles or >Coleman. >They said they kind of charge by the job. They were very cool to me >when I was >first sorting out the kinks of my recently purchased 16 year old bike. >I had >it in there a few times because I couldn't get it started. They were >able to >start it right up and did not charge me a cent. I have not had any >major work >done there, so the verdict is probably still out. They also tend to >take a >while to get to things (especially in early spring when they are >swamped) >because there are basically only 2 guys working on the bikes. They are >located >just off Leesburg pike just west of Carlin Springs Road. The phone >number is >(703) 820 - 3711. A friend currently has his bike in there now, so he >might be >able to give a better idea on their service. If anyone else knows >these guys, >I would be interested to see what their reputation is. They seem like >pretty >honest fellows who love to work on bikes and are not in it solely for >the money. > >Good Luck! >________________________________________________________________________ >_______ >Subject: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? >Author: Hal@XXXXXX >Date: 6/27/96 6:55 PM > >Howdy: > >My housemate has a Yamaha Virago with what I think might be valve >clatter, >and really needs a new tire. Anyone havge suggestions on where to take >it in >the Northern VA area for a valve job and tire that is also reasonable >cost >wise? Oh, and we have ruled out Coleman and Cycles USA already. > >Thanks! > >Hal >Burke VA >1995 BMW R1100GSA > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 28 10:28:35 1996 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:25:28 -0400 From: "Aki.Damme" Subject: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <960627183017_423161166@emout07.mail.aol.com> X400-Mts-Identifier: [ /P=CITICORP/A=MCI/C=US/ ; MTASO90002US 0Yn0fA00000TD ] X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.0.2-p8)/MIME Herndon Cycle Sport has a pretty good reputation as well as reasonable prices (as far as "reasonable" can be associated with ANY motorcyle repair). Cheers, -aki > Howdy: > > My housemate has a Yamaha Virago with what I think might be valve clatter, > and really needs a new tire. Anyone havge suggestions on where to take it in > the Northern VA area for a valve job and tire that is also reasonable cost > wise? Oh, and we have ruled out Coleman and Cycles USA already. > > Thanks! > > Hal > Burke VA > 1995 BMW R1100GSA > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 28 10:43:02 1996 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:37:00 -0400 (EDT) From: John Blaine Godfrey To: Hal@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? In-Reply-To: <960627183017_423161166@emout07.mail.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 27 June 1996 Hal@XXXXXX wrote: > My housemate has a Yamaha Virago with what I think might be valve clatter, > and really needs a new tire. Anyone havge suggestions on where to take it in > the Northern VA area for a valve job and tire that is also reasonable cost > wise? Oh, and we have ruled out Coleman and Cycles USA already. If in Nova, check out Crossroads cycle. The last time I went to a shop to get a bike fixed -- several years ago -- they were only marginally cheaper, but I liked the feel of the place. They are in the telephone book. Bailey's crossroads if memory serves. Of course, I'd first suggest adjusting the valves yourself. Give a rider a valve job and their bike will run today, teach them how to do a valve job and they are a mechanic for life (apologies for the horrible abuse of the saying). You can also get the tire put on at a number of places in Nova that don't otherwise do repairs. Art at Rider's Accessories in Falls Church, for example. He'll mount and balance the tire if you give him the wheel. (ask him to take the wheel off the bike and he'll give you a creative description of an anatomically impossible act.) ttfn john From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 28 13:00:53 1996 From: Dark Hacker Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:00:44 -0400 (EDT) To: Dalmas_Randy@XXXXXX, Snider@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? Do you have an address/phone number for Crossroads Cycle? Can they do Hondas? Kawai's? - Hacker From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 28 13:41:32 1996 From: Dalmas Randy To: "'Dark Hacker'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:38:46 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Encoding: 23 TEXT Crossroads Cycle 703-820-3711 5715 Leesburg Pike Baileys Crossroads, VA 22041 You will be talking Dennis or Bill. They can do any make or model, but generally specialize in those of Japanese origin. - Randy >---------- >From: Dark Hacker[SMTP:hacker@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, June 28, 1996 1:00 PM >To: Dalmas Randy; Snider@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? > > >Do you have an address/phone number for Crossroads Cycle? > >Can they do Hondas? Kawai's? > >- Hacker > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 28 13:43:41 1996 From: naa@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:43:32 -0400 X-Sender: naa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? Crossroad Cycles: (703) 820-3711. I haven't got an address for them. They specialize in Kawasaki, but they do work on almost anything. They're working on my VT500c at the moment. (Would that I had access to a machine shop ...) >Do you have an address/phone number for Crossroads Cycle? > >Can they do Hondas? Kawai's? > >- Hacker > > /// ---------------------------------------oo0(. .)-0oo-------------- Matt Farina (_) National Aeronautic Association naa@XXXXXX - There is always one more idiot than you counted on. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 28 15:38:58 1996 X-Ms-Tnef-Correlator: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'DC-Cycles'" Subject: Re: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:32:38 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 Encoding: 9 TEXT, 32 UUENCODE X-Ms-Attachment: WINMAIL.DAT 0 00-00-1980 00:00 >Art at Rider's Accessories in Falls Church, for example. He'll mount >and balance the tire if you give him the wheel. (ask him to take the >wheel off the bike and he'll give you a creative description of an >anatomically impossible act.) Art is no longer mounting tires that he doesn't sell (or so he told me yesterday) begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(BH3`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` M& ```$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0F `0`A````-#0W.#-% M1#%&.40P0T8Q,4(U-S P,# P1C8S0D-"1#8`, 6-L97,Z(%=H97)E('1O(&=E="!A(%9IZ!K@`W!I6F,0$] +(&$N>2J&*I4680`RX ````,`-@```````P`F M```````"`?D_`0```!X`````````W*= R,!"$!JTN0@`*R_A@@$````````` M+@```!X`^#\!````%0```%-Y To: Dalmas Randy cc: "'Dark Hacker'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When your there ask Dennis how is race team is going! ;) James Williams (jim@XXXXXX) Director Williams Consulting, Inc. vox 202-588-9880 fax 202-588-9881 On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Dalmas Randy wrote: > Crossroads Cycle > 703-820-3711 > 5715 Leesburg Pike > Baileys Crossroads, VA 22041 > > You will be talking Dennis or Bill. They can do any make or model, but > generally specialize in those of Japanese origin. > > - Randy > > >---------- > >From: Dark Hacker[SMTP:hacker@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Friday, June 28, 1996 1:00 PM > >To: Dalmas Randy; Snider@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >Subject: RE: DC Cycles: Where to get a Virago fixed? > > > > > >Do you have an address/phone number for Crossroads Cycle? > > > >Can they do Hondas? Kawai's? > > > >- Hacker > > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 28 20:46:00 1996 From: denise.pawlowski@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 28 Jun 96 20:41:01 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: looking for a mechanic... I'm looking for a new mechanic. I'm in the Gaithersburg/Germantown area, drive an 86 Yamaha YX600. I was one of the last few lucky ones last summer to get my bike out of Shady Grove Cycle before the owner flew the coop and took everything with him. I'm not a mechanical idiot, but there are those who look for an easy mark! I want the usual - trustworthy, reasonable turnaround time, and of course - reasonable price. Everything's running fine now, but it's good to have the contingency plan. Suggestions, anyone? From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 29 08:44:12 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 08:43:25 -0400 To: denise.pawlowski@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: looking for a mechanic... At 08:41 PM 6/28/96 EST, denise.pawlowski@XXXXXX wrote: > I'm looking for a new mechanic. I'm in the Gaithersburg/Germantown > area, drive an 86 Yamaha YX600. I was one of the last few lucky ones > last summer to get my bike out of Shady Grove Cycle before the owner > flew the coop and took everything with him. I'm not a mechanical > idiot, but there are those who look for an easy mark! I want the > usual - trustworthy, reasonable turnaround time, and of course - > reasonable price. Everything's running fine now, but it's good to > have the contingency plan. Suggestions, anyone? That's really weird; I drove by Shady Grove last week and wondered why they look closed. There are two good shops in Gaithersburg. Forrest Kerns, right across the street from Shady Grove, and Cycle Accessories Discounters, at 301-977-7188. rich