From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 08:44:25 2001
From: eschelzig@XXXXXX
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Bike Storage
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:39:53 -0400

Looking for some help from the travelers/movers on the list:  I am moving
abroad for about a year and need to mothball my KLR.  Everyone I've spoken
to has told me to put in high grade gasoline and some fuel stabilizer, do an
oil change, and disconnect the battery.  Sounds fine to me.  But when
talking to a moving company, they have told me that it will be necessary to
drain the bike of all fluids before they will move or store it.  This
doesn't sound like a good plan.  Has anybody had any experience in this
field?  Incidentally, I will be moving from DC to Miami, in case anyone is
wondering.

Thanks and bests,

Erik

01 KLR650

From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 09:23:52 2001
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 09:22:20 -0400
To: eschelzig@XXXXXX
From: Justin Lemrow <firblt@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Bike Storage
Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

why store it?

ride it :)

Justin

>Incidentally, I will be moving from DC to Miami, in case anyone is
>wondering.
>
>Erik
>01 KLR650


From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 09:28:19 2001
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:28:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Trey Herb <trey_22206@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Bike Storage
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

<snip>I will be moving from DC to Miami</snip>

Since when is Miami abroad. I know they don't speak
english but it is still part of the USA (last time I
checked).


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From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 09:29:02 2001
From: eschelzig@XXXXXX
To: firblt@XXXXXX
Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: RE: Bike Storage
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:24:52 -0400

Sorry I wasn't clear -- the route is this :  Washington, DC -- Germany --
Miami in the span of about a year.

Erik

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Lemrow [mailto:firblt@XXXXXX]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 9:22 AM
To: Erik Schelzig
Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Re: Bike Storage


why store it?

ride it :)

Justin

>Incidentally, I will be moving from DC to Miami, in case anyone is
>wondering.
>
>Erik
>01 KLR650

From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 10:06:30 2001
From: bergman@XXXXXX
To: eschelzig@XXXXXX
cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Re: Bike Storage
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 10:05:12 -0400



In your message dated: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:39:53 EDT,
The pithy ruminations from eschelzig@XXXXXX on
<Bike Storage> were:
=> Looking for some help from the travelers/movers on the list:  I am moving
=> abroad for about a year and need to mothball my KLR.  Everyone I've spoken
=> to has told me to put in high grade gasoline and some fuel stabilizer, do an
=> oil change, and disconnect the battery.  Sounds fine to me.  But when
=> talking to a moving company, they have told me that it will be necessary to
=> drain the bike of all fluids before they will move or store it.  This
=> doesn't sound like a good plan.  Has anybody had any experience in this
=> field?  Incidentally, I will be moving from DC to Miami, in case anyone is
=> wondering.

Why not just ship the bike to Germany? There's very good riding there (those
things called the Alps, you know) and KLRs are popular. Lufthansa should be
able to do the shipping for about $650 each way, and it's really, really easy
(I've done it). You don't need to drain any fluids, and they are really careful.

Get in touch with me off the list for more details, including info about
insurance and a good shipping broker.

Mark
=>
=> Thanks and bests,
=>
=> Erik
=>
=> 01 KLR650
=>




From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 10:19:22 2001
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:14:46 -0400
From: <sdave@XXXXXX>
To: eschelzig@XXXXXX
Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Re: Bike Storage

Erik pondered aloud:


> Looking for some help from the travelers/movers on the list:  I am
moving
> abroad for about a year and need to mothball my KLR.  Everyone I've
spoken
> to has told me to put in high grade gasoline and some fuel
stabilizer, do an
> oil change, and disconnect the battery.  Sounds fine to me.

   WEEEEEEELL...  that's O K, but of course, it's better to keep it
running...


  But when
> talking to a moving company, they have told me that it will be
necessary to
> drain the bike of all fluids before they will move or store it.
This
> doesn't sound like a good plan.  Has anybody had any experience in
this
> field?  Incidentally, I will be moving from DC to Miami, in case
anyone is
> wondering.


   well, I'd be hesitant to drain the bike of all fluids.  <sigh>
it's a sacrifice, but, I'll tell you what... I'll ride the bike for
you while you're gone.  Stored in a garage, regular maintenance, and,
for some extra consideration, I'll take it on some dirt roads, keep
the suspension working and all.  After all, you don't want your bike
collecting dust in some storage area, other stuff piling on top of
it, only casually glanced at by some uncaring BDC?

Anything for a LM in need....

Dave Yates


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From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 10:24:34 2001
From: Cedric Bernescut <bernescut@XXXXXX>
To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: FW: [cbr] Warchild's Deerstrike
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:24:33 -0400

With all the recent discussion of deer hunting I thought I'd cross post this
from another list.
Warning: Not for Small Children of Animal Lovers.
Cedric

Subject: [cbr] Warchild's Deerstrike

I guess Warchild was another one driven away. Anyway, here's a good, good
story he wrote on another site.

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/message?forumid=116563&messageid=991190275




From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 12:19:37 2001
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 1973 12:28:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Garcia Oliver <garicao@XXXXXX>
To: eschelzig@XXXXXX
cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Re: Bike Storage

On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 eschelzig@XXXXXX wrote:

> Looking for some help from the travelers/movers on the list:  I am moving
> abroad for about a year and need to mothball my KLR.  Everyone I've spoken
> to has told me to put in high grade gasoline and some fuel stabilizer, do an
> oil change, and disconnect the battery.  Sounds fine to me.  But when

No personal experience with this, but you should be able to get away
with: (1) drain gas tank til dry. Pour in some heavy oil (30 wt?),
slosh it around til it has covered the inside of the tank; drain excess.
(2) drain carb (should be a screw on the float bowl). (3) put a bit
(tablespoon) of oil in sparkplug hole, crank engine a few times,
reinstall plug.  (4) the battery will be a throw-away in a year unless you
can arrange occasional recharging; otherwise might as well sell/give it away
now. (5) wax/grease/oil/wd40/armor-all parts that you think might rust.

--garcia

"Florida: all voters are equal, but some are more equal than others."

From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 13:22:00 2001
From: "Custer, Carl" <Carl.Custer@XXXXXX>
To: "'DCCycles'" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Cc: "'dcanderson_iii@XXXXXX'" <dcanderson_iii@XXXXXX>,
   "'the.horkster@XXXXXX'" <the.horkster@XXXXXX>
Subject: Parking & Horns
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:22:26 -0400

DC Anderson III asked: "Does anyone know of any motorcycle parking down near
the MCI Center?"

On the north side of Indiana next to 6th street.
Also on the north side of G, close to 7th there is a blank "free parking
spot" that may have been designated for motorcycles once.  "The list sez
there's one there.
Dale, can you post "the list" a hard drive crash wiped my copy.

Horns:
John claimed: "One point on horns, what I have learned over the years is
that when I really want a horn I am WAY to busy to use one. I too like loud
horns, but find them useless in a real emergency."

When in town or traffic: Cover your brake lever, cover your horn button.
But remember people (even BDCs) react to sight faster than to sound so use
lane positioning and lights to avoid having to use either brakes or tooters.

See one horn (& lights) mounting suggestion below:

Carl in Bethesda
Commuting into your nation's capital since 1981 through sun, rain, over
snow, and around road ragers.
'85 VF700S (Rocin-ahorito); '83 VF700F (666)
'97 Aerostich Roadcrafter (Fred the Red)

Don't need no loud pipes; I got big honking tooters:
http://members.tripod.com/~v65_magna/sos_99/sat_lunch2.jpg
http://www.crosswinds.net/~denbrook/Motorcycles/Events/mmc-2-17-01/Carls_Sab
re.jpg

From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 13:36:56 2001
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:36:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Weaver <chris_vtr@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Parking & Horns
To: "Custer, Carl" <Carl.Custer@XXXXXX>,
   "'DCCycles'" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Cc: "'dcanderson_iii@XXXXXX'" <dcanderson_iii@XXXXXX>,
   "'the.horkster@XXXXXX'" <the.horkster@XXXXXX>

> Dale, can you post "the list" a hard drive crash
> wiped my copy.

You can find "the list" on www.dccycles.com under
"Area Riding" and "DC Parking."

Here it is for convenience though.

Chris

-----------

Parking Tips:
1. When parked in spaces designed for their exclusive
use, motorcycles must park in designated areas with
rear wheel to the curb.
2. Metered parking is in effect during the hours
posted.
3. No motorized vehicle without pedals shall park on
islands or sidewalks. ($50!! BTDT)
4. Park one motorcycle per stall.
5. Most parking is metered for 4 hours, at 25 cents
per hour.
6. Motorcycles may park in metered zones for
automobiles providing the parking meter is paid. When
parked in spaces designed for automobiles, motorcycles
should park parallel to the curb.

300 block Eye St NW -- 14 spaces
800 block Vermont Ave, NW -- 23 spaces (meters more
expensive)
600 block Indiana Ave. NW -- 6 (In the shade, next to
6th)
600 block E St NW -- 6 (Not marked, no meters)
600 block G St. NW --6 (Not there anymore??)
600 block 2nd St. NW -- 10 spaces

2000 block T St NW -- 10
1300 block New York Ave NW -- 10
1700 block M St. NW -- 31
1400 block G St. NW -- 14

2100 block Eye St. NW -- 10 spaces
1800 block H St NW -- 16 (shaded)
2200 block E St NW -- 9
1100 block Vermont Ave NW -- 10
Unit block G St NW -- 8 (On the south side of G St.
immediately west of North Capitol. No meters, just a
sign that says Motorcycle parking. LB)

1200 block New Hampshire Ave NW -- 20 spaces
1500 block 19th St NW -- 7
1700 block G St NW -- 11
2200 block F St NW -- 6
1400 block M St NW -- 6

900 block 15th St NW -- 12
1800 block Eye St NW -- 9
1300 block K St NW -- 9 (Next to 14th, shaded from
noon sun; where the elite parque)
1800 block Pennsylvania Ave NW -- 9 spaces
2000 block Florida Ave NW -- 10

1800 block M St NW -- 24
1100 block Thomas Jefferson St NW -- 5
3000 block VanNess St NW -- 13 spaces
2500 block 6th St NW -- 10
200 block Independence Ave SE -- 9
300 block Virginia Ave SW -- 10
800 block C St. SW -- 10

Some might find this useful:
There is free motorcycle parking (no meter heads) on
C, SW between 12th & 14 behind USDA.
In the USDA parking lot on Independence close to 12th
On the SW side of the Humphrey building (200
Independence?) the Humphrey building (Independence
Ave, SW) has free MC parking on the sidewalk/patio and
is sort of covered (there's a roof way up high). It's
on the SW side of the building (KR)


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From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 13:56:26 2001
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 13:55:37 -0400
From: Dale Horstman <the.horkster@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Parking & Horns
To: Chris Weaver <chris_vtr@XXXXXX>
Cc: "Custer, Carl" <Carl.Custer@XXXXXX>,
   "'DCCycles'" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>,
   "'dcanderson_iii@XXXXXX'" <dcanderson_iii@XXXXXX>

Chris Weaver wrote:
>
> > Dale, can you post "the list" a hard drive crash
> > wiped my copy.
>
> You can find "the list" on www.dccycles.com under
> "Area Riding" and "DC Parking."

Cool, thanks Chris!  I'm off the hook looking through
my saved messages.  :)

Dale

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Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth

'98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer
'99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi
'82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress

From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 14:08:28 2001
From: "Paul Wilson" <pawilson@XXXXXX>
To: "dc-cycles list" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: DC "free" MC parking, was Re: Parking & Horns
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:11:44 -0400

I was downtown yesterday and parked at 15th and Eye and noticed something
untoward.  It looks like they're installing some kind of parking fee
collection system at the currently "free" spots.  Not sure what's up with
that.  I'll give my DPW contact a call to see what's going on.

Paul in DC
95 VFR750F
----- Original Message -----
From: Custer, Carl <Carl.Custer@XXXXXX>

> DC Anderson III asked: "Does anyone know of any motorcycle parking down
near
> the MCI Center?"
>
> On the north side of Indiana next to 6th street.
> Also on the north side of G, close to 7th there is a blank "free parking
> spot" that may have been designated for motorcycles once.  "The list sez
> there's one there.
> Dale, can you post "the list" a hard drive crash wiped my copy.


From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 18:11:53 2001
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:09:36 -0400
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
From: Sean Jordan <sean.jordan@XXXXXX>
Subject: Dead list.

Doctor, the list is going into defib! Charging paddles! Clear!
*bzzzt* It's no good! Bring it up to 50Kw. Clear! *bzzzz* Damn!
Alright, let's call it. Time of death, 12:28:34, June 1st, 1973. (Hey
Garcia, check your computer's clock!)

Have a good weekend, kids. Bring me some good stories for Monday. And
maybe a bottle or two of Uncle Jemima's Mash Liqour. If you're like
me, you wanna get bit just as fast as possible.


--
"For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the
skillful defiance of it."

-Ernest Becker (1924-1974)

Sean Jordan
Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing
'93 Honda CBR1000F (Street)
'90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race)
WERA #230 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038
http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html


From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 19:38:47 2001
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 1973 19:47:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Garcia Oliver <garicao@XXXXXX>
To: Sean Jordan <sean.jordan@XXXXXX>
cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Re: Dead list.

On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Sean Jordan wrote:

> Doctor, the list is going into defib! Charging paddles! Clear!
> *bzzzt* It's no good! Bring it up to 50Kw. Clear! *bzzzz* Damn!
> Alright, let's call it. Time of death, 12:28:34, June 1st, 1973. (Hey
> Garcia, check your computer's clock!)

Computer's clock is fine. You have met the CapAccess solution to y2k.
Really.

--garcia

"A horse divided against itself cannot stand."

From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 21:01:51 2001
From: "Ricardo Pontes" <ricardopontes@XXXXXX>
To: "Dccycles" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: RE: for the truly energy conscience
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:06:59 -0400



I really think this is a great idea. But i think this sort of thing would be
best suited for scooters. I woudlnt mind owning a fully electric or hybrid
scooter. Only problem is that many scooters get around 100mpg already.
Italjet formula gets around 90 if you thrash it, 105 if you take it easy.
But then again the top speed is kind of low. If they make a scooter version
of this hog, i will probably buy it.

Ricardo Pontes
www.geocities.com/ricardopontes






I followed some of the links and found this really funky looking ride:
http://www.ecycle.com/powersports/hybrid.htm
But seeing the semi-success of this engineering idea in cars I think it will
be the way electric motorcycles get started (no pun intended).
Cedric


The tree huggin, granola eatin, hemp wearin bike.



http://user.icx.net/~jfairstein/electric.html

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From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 22:45:32 2001
From: "Todd Peer" <toddbpeer@XXXXXX>
To: "AA DC Cycles" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: [cbr] Warchild's Deerstrike
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:43:52 -0400

Dale Wilson is on the ST1100, LDRider, IBDone and CBR lists.  He also
occassionally posts to the HSTA list, but more for the mere thrill of
ruffling the old folks feathers.  He's a stalwart ego that could not ever
possibly be driven away from anything.  In fact, the man seems to subsist on
email conflict at times.

Nevertheless, he is an amusing read.

Todd (Springfield, VA)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------
From: Cedric Bernescut <bernescut@XXXXXX>
To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: FW: [cbr] Warchild's Deerstrike
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:24:33 -0400

With all the recent discussion of deer hunting I thought I'd cross post this
from another list.
Warning: Not for Small Children of Animal Lovers.
Cedric

Subject: [cbr] Warchild's Deerstrike

I guess Warchild was another one driven away. Anyway, here's a good, good
story he wrote on another site.

http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/message?forumid=116563&messageid=991190275




From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun  1 23:41:27 2001
From: "mobacc" <mobacc@XXXXXX>
To: "DC-Cycles" <DC-Cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Thanks.  and Back to Your Roots, Gendarme
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:44:38 -0400

    o  Thanks, sympathizers, for the kind thoughts re my recent shoveoff.
Appreciated.

    o  Couldn't help chuckling over a serendipitious photo in the 5/20 Post
magazine, p.6 , contrasting the current list postings about distasteful area
police vehicles and practices:

[A B/W photo showing 5 policemen in full horse-regalia uniforms straddling
period motorcycles (+ a chief) in front of a store].  Caption:

"In 1922, Montgomery County was farm country: . ..   ...posing ... on July 4
[police] Chief ... and his men on their first day of duty.  . . ..  They
didn't have much beyond their badges.  Their only training was on riding
motorcycles, and there was no office . . ..  If they needed to cart someone
to jail, the prisoner often had to ride along on the motorcycle, handcuffed.
Still there were bootleggers and chicken thieves to chase down . . .."

Certainly no brother motorcyclists.

July 4, 2002 will be the 80th anniversary of the forming of this august
group.

Bill S. / DC
[99 VN750] --> I'll bet I could sniff out bootleggers and chicken thieves.
And deal punish enough to handcuffed pillioners.
Join the AMA.  Help protect my riding fun.


From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun  2 00:32:17 2001
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:32:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nomad <nomad98@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re:Bike Storage
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

<<snip>I will be moving from DC to Miami</snip>

<Since when is Miami abroad. I know they don't speak
english but it is still part of the USA (last time I
checked).

I lived in South Miami for four long years; It is indeed a foreign
country. No se hable ingles!

Typically, moving companies are most concerned about gasoline, not
oil. Should you decide to transport the bike to Germany/Miami, empty
the gas tank but don't bother with the carbs or oil. You'll regret
not having your bike in Germany.

Herb
'99 VFR
'94 Magna

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From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun  2 11:11:28 2001
From: "Seth Kaplan" <seth@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Bike Storage
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:12:29 -0400

I have a KLR too.  There are two schools of thought on fluid prep for
storage.  Theory 1 is top everything off, including the gas tank.  This
reduces the area for condensation in the tank (esp. over the winter) so
you'll be able to start it up next spring.  Theory 2 is drain the gas tank
(i.e. run it till it konks out - remember to have the fuel gauge on
reserve).  The logic here is the same as theory 1, albeit to remove the
condensation causing element altogether.  I think either is fine, but if you
are going to leave the fuel in, definitely put in stabilizer - it makes the
fuel more syrupy and less apt to freezing, separating, and condensing.
Always disconnect the battery, ESP. on that bike.  I sometimes disconnect
mine if I'm not gonna rider her for a couple of weeks, let alone an entire
year.  Have a safe trip.

-- Seth

'97 Valk
'00 KLR650


From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun  2 16:19:16 2001
From: "Matthew Patton" <pattonme@XXXXXX>
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 15:19:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Warchild's Deerstrike

Couple of observations:

This is what horns are for. When I'm unsure, I bleep my horn often. You can't hear an MC engine/exhuast when it's coming toward you. And dear definately don't pick up on it. Horns they do notice.

<quote>I checked the tachometer,
looked up at the Sigma, then down to the temp gauge, then looked up to see the 75-lb doe looking right at me, </quote>

Any good pilot knows you scan and look up, scan and look up, scan and look up. reading 3 instruments one after the other is too much time away from looking at the road. Even more so since th author was apparently very aware that critters were highly possible.

As to the 'shit' or the amount of it. I believe we humans have about 12ft worth of intestine in our abdomons. Dear would have a lot, too.
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 they should have voted to convict."


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From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun  2 16:35:59 2001
From: "Matthew Patton" <pattonme@XXXXXX>
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 15:35:55 -0500
Subject: Fairly friendly Suzuki dealer

I was up in Winchester to pick up my Honda parts and stopped by the 'zuk/kawi/yam dealer there on US50 a few miles east of I-81 to get a price quote on some parts. Headlight brackets etc. for a GS500E were way more than I think they're worth (will call a breaker) but just for grins I stopped by Loudoun Motorsports in Leesburg to get a comparison. Loudoun's was almost 2x as expensive. I was appalled. I queried their main parts man as to what's up with that and got a disinterested shrug. I let him know that I currently do all my HOnda parts business with Shenandoah Honda and was thinking about consolidating business a little closer (now that I have suzuki's in the stable) but that there was no way unless his prices were more reasonable.

He gave me one of those, "I don't give a shit, why don't you piss off" sort of looks. 'Piss off' I did. I was even more upset when he said I could buy a VIP card for $40 and thereby get a 10% discount of stuff. I don't think so!!!

That's the last time I even THINK about visiting a DC/VA dealer for anything. Shenandoah Honda's prices are 10 - 20% cheaper than dealers around here AND I get a 15% discount on top of that. No questions asked, no requirement that you buy a bike there, no nothing.

At the previously mentioned zuk/yam/kawi dealer I didn't get the parts counter to come down much except to mention the 10% AMA discount but the person in charge there said to give the owner a ring during the week and was pretty sure we'd be able to come to some kind of understanding.


I'm new to Suzuki land. Anyone have suggestions for a GOOD shop that isn't intent on bilking the customer? I'm familiar with Whitt's and will pay them a visit. But other than that it seems I have to go to Winchester to find a 1/2 way decent outfit.
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From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun  2 17:03:45 2001
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 17:03:33 -0400
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
From: Troutman <mike@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Fairly friendly Suzuki dealer

I have good luck with Cycle Sport in Herndon.

At 04:35 PM 6/2/2001, Matthew Patton wrote:
>I'm new to Suzuki land. Anyone have suggestions for a GOOD shop that isn't
>intent on bilking the customer? I'm familiar with Whitt's and will pay
>them a visit. But other than that it seems I have to go to Winchester to
>find a 1/2 way decent outfit.


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         mike@XXXXXX
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From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun  2 18:45:23 2001
From: "Patrick Caulfield" <Patrick_Caulfield@XXXXXX>
To: "DCCycles" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Advice: Reckless Driving
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:36:17 -0400


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er to reduce the violation.  Roomie's on reckless #2, 3rd ticket, I'm on =
my 1st(and 1st on bike) and second speeding ticket.  Any help would be ap=
preciated!!!

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From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun  2 20:46:11 2001
To: DCBRAG@XXXXXX
Cc: BOL@XXXXXX, TL1000@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 20:40:48 -0400
Subject: FS:NEW Bridgestone BT56ss 180/55zr17 $103
X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-5,7-11
X-Juno-Att: 0
X-Juno-RefParts: 0
From: Thad B Groghan <tgroghan@XXXXXX>

For sale:
Brand new BT-56ss

size: 180/55zr17
Price: $103.00

Reason for selling, was forced to buy another tire in an emergency
situation.
Thad
Location: Maryland
tgroghan@XXXXXX


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From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun  3 09:04:53 2001
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 09:05:02 -0400
From: Paul Wilson <pawilson@XXXXXX>
To: Matthew Patton <pattonme@XXXXXX>
CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Horn use, was Re: Warchild's Deerstrike

Matthew Patton wrote:
>
> Couple of observations:
>
> This is what horns are for. When I'm unsure, I bleep my horn often. You can't hear an MC engine/exhuast when it's coming toward you. And dear definately don't pick up on it. Horns they do notice.
>

I think the rule of thumb with the horn is, "use it, but don't rely on
it."  It certainly doesn't hurt.  Sometimes cagers give me a dirty look
for beeping at them, but it did make them notice me, so mission
accomplished.  The worst offenders are the "lane creepers" how can't
seem to keep themselves from wandering across the lane markers.  A
little toot usually wakes 'em up and keeps them on their side of the
dashed white lines.  I probably use my horn way more than the average
motorcyclist.

Paul in DC
95 VFR750F


From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun  3 09:15:33 2001
From: MJordan666@XXXXXX
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 09:15:29 EDT
Subject: Re: Advice: Reckless Driving
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

>So my roomie and I were cruising Sat enjoying the nice day and came up on a >
speed trap and got nailed for 57 in a 305.  What advice can anyone offer to >
reduce the violation.  Roomie's on reckless #2, 3rd ticket, I'm on my 1st(and
1st >on bike) and second speeding ticket.  Any help would be appreciated!!!

1. Get a good lawyer
2. Get a good radar detector - Valentine 1 is recommended. It will run you
about $500 with the remote audio and video - less than the cost of a lawyer.
3. Did I mention get a lawyer?

Michael J.
'93 GSX 1100G
'86 SRX-6
'99 V1

From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun  3 16:32:42 2001
From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:32:37 EDT
Subject: Re: va trailer inspection
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

In a message dated 5/31/2001 12:55:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
christopher.meier@XXXXXX writes:

> Yep, makes sense.  Ffx Cty ... not concerned about safety laws, but they
>  know the fees you have to pay down pat.
>
While I was out riding this weekend (577mi.) I saw someone pull right out in
front of a cop (not a local) so the cop had to _slam_ of his brakes to keep
from hitting him. Then the cop just kept on going... to a speed trap no
doubt. Morons!


John Walters (Long John)
PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
Up near DC

Honda ST1100X Pan European
    (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.)
BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles
Honda 1976 CR250M  Motowhat racer

From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun  3 16:39:27 2001
From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:39:20 EDT
Subject: Re: for the truly energy conscience
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

In a message dated 5/31/2001 3:03:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
bernescut@XXXXXX writes:

> But seeing the semi-success of this engineering idea in cars I think it will
>  be the way electric motorcycles get started (no pun intended).

By the  way what good is an electric motorcycle or cage if you aint got no
power to charge it? (See California.)

Just wondering.

John Walters (Long John)
PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
Up near DC

Honda ST1100X Pan European
    (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.)
BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles
Honda 1976 CR250M  Motowhat racer

From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun  3 16:42:23 2001
From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:42:14 EDT
Subject: Re: for the truly energy conscience
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

In a message dated 5/31/2001 3:48:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Rigopoulos_Mark@XXXXXX writes:

> I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want 60+lbs of Lead Acid batteries in
>  between MY legs.
>  Mark

Hell no! I want exploding hydrocarbons between my legs!


John Walters (Long John)
PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
Up near DC

Honda ST1100X Pan European
    (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.)
BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles
Honda 1976 CR250M  Motowhat racer

From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun  3 17:06:37 2001
From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:06:30 EDT
Subject: Re: horns
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

In a message dated 6/1/2001 10:09:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
pattonme@XXXXXX writes:

> which is why you use the horn BEFORE it's an emergency. (SIPDE and all
that).

When I (P)redict some moron is about to do something stupid,  I (D)ecide not
to trust them to hear my horn. And (E)xecute  an evasive maneuver.
If it is not an emergency yet you do not need a loud horn. If it is, the
horn, no matter how loud cannot be relied on.


John Walters (Long John)
PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
Up near DC

Honda ST1100X Pan European
    (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.)
BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles
Honda 1976 CR250M  Motowhat racer

From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun  3 22:05:35 2001
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 22:02:29 -0400
Subject: Summit Point Track Day Monday, June 11th
X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,5-9,11,13,15
From: Tom Fitzpatrick <celticracing@XXXXXX>

This is *not* for racers only!

Cycle Sport's Track Day is at Summit Point on Monday, June 11th.  You
must complete a safety seminar if you haven't done this before, so if you
have interest, call Mark in the parts department ASAP.  He can be reached
at (703) 471-6990.

This is how I got started.

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*Fast Lane Cycles - fastlanecycles@XXXXXX  (703)818-8890
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From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun  3 22:34:55 2001
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To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: roach did you sell Harley
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 02:23:26

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From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 08:32:19 2001
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 05:32:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matthew Rosenstock <m_rosenstock@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Fairly friendly Suzuki dealer
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

If you're willing to travel a little, I buy my Suzuki
parts at Cycle Accesory Discounters in Gaithersburg.
You might want to give them a try via phone...
301-977-7188.


--- Matthew Patton <pattonme@XXXXXX> wrote:
> I was up in Winchester to pick up my Honda parts and
> stopped by the 'zuk/kawi/yam dealer there on US50 a
> few miles east of I-81 to get a price quote on some
> parts. Headlight brackets etc. for a GS500E were way
> more than I think they're worth (will call a
> breaker) but just for grins I stopped by Loudoun
> Motorsports in Leesburg to get a comparison.
> Loudoun's was almost 2x as expensive. I was
> appalled. I queried their main parts man as to
> what's up with that and got a disinterested shrug. I
> let him know that I currently do all my HOnda parts
> business with Shenandoah Honda and was thinking
> about consolidating business a little closer (now
> that I have suzuki's in the stable) but that there
> was no way unless his prices were more reasonable.
>
> He gave me one of those, "I don't give a shit, why
> don't you piss off" sort of looks. 'Piss off' I did.
> I was even more upset when he said I could buy a VIP
> card for $40 and thereby get a 10% discount of
> stuff. I don't think so!!!
>
> That's the last time I even THINK about visiting a
> DC/VA dealer for anything. Shenandoah Honda's prices
> are 10 - 20% cheaper than dealers around here AND I
> get a 15% discount on top of that. No questions
> asked, no requirement that you buy a bike there, no
> nothing.
>
> At the previously mentioned zuk/yam/kawi dealer I
> didn't get the parts counter to come down much
> except to mention the 10% AMA discount but the
> person in charge there said to give the owner a ring
> during the week and was pretty sure we'd be able to
> come to some kind of understanding.
>
>
> I'm new to Suzuki land. Anyone have suggestions for
> a GOOD shop that isn't intent on bilking the
> customer? I'm familiar with Whitt's and will pay
> them a visit. But other than that it seems I have to
> go to Winchester to find a 1/2 way decent outfit.
> --
>
>
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>  they should have voted to convict."
>
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From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 08:35:25 2001
Date: Mon,  4 Jun 2001 08:35:18 -0400
From: "Chris Norloff" <cnorloff@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: horns

I agree with Paul (pattonme@XXXXXX) that using the horn is good to alert people and that you should not rely on it.

Yesterday was a perfect example - car pulling out the parking lot on the right, driver acted like he didn't see me.  As I applied the brakes I sounded the horn.  He looked, stopped, and let me by.

The non-horn alternative would be to hope he saw me (yeah, right!) or to stop in the road if he kept moving.

I think most people would agree that use of the horn was the better tactic.

the smaller the vehicle, the louder the horn,
Chris Norloff

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:06:30 EDT

>In a message dated 6/1/2001 10:09:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>pattonme@XXXXXX writes:
>
>> which is why you use the horn BEFORE it's an emergency. (SIPDE and all
>that).
>
>When I (P)redict some moron is about to do something stupid,  I (D)ecide not
>to trust them to hear my horn. And (E)xecute  an evasive maneuver.
>If it is not an emergency yet you do not need a loud horn. If it is, the
>horn, no matter how loud cannot be relied on.
>
>
>John Walters (Long John)
>PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
>Up near DC
>
>Honda ST1100X Pan European
>    (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.)
>BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles
>Honda 1976 CR250M  Motowhat racer
>

From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 09:57:49 2001
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:57:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Trey Herb <trey_22206@XXXXXX>
Subject: other horns
To: DC-Cycles <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>

I was at a marine shop the other day picking up some
electric gear for my Trophy when I saw these big fat
round horns. the were not hooked up but was wondering
if anyone ever tried them on a bike. they look like
any easy install and are not badly priced.

Trey

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From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 10:15:49 2001
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:15:16 -0400
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
From: Sean Jordan <sean.jordan@XXXXXX>
Subject: Funny comic today

http://www2.uclick.com/client/wpc/nq/

--
"For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the
skillful defiance of it."

-Ernest Becker (1924-1974)

Sean Jordan
Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing
'93 Honda CBR1000F (Street)
'90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race)
WERA #230 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038
http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html


From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 10:49:13 2001
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:48:37 -0400
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
From: Sean Jordan <sean.jordan@XXXXXX>
Subject: For Sale (non-moto)

Hey guys, need to make room for some new thing by selling some old
things, so I thought I'd give you all first crack before I put the
stuff up on eBay. (The benefits of being a lister!)

Car stereo stuff:

Clarion Tape Deck & Clarion 6 disc changer. Specs and model #'s
available upon request. (I don't have them in front of me and can't
remember what they are.) This is higher end stuff. 2 1/2 years old,
great condition. $200

Kenwood 4 channel amp. 25 watts per channel RMS. High and low pass
filters. 2ohm stable. $100

Kenwood active powered eq. With fader and adjustable low-pass filter
subwoofer output. $75.


Non-Car Stereo stuff

AGV Rage 1 piece leathers. Red, black, and white. Light scuffing on
seat from a low speed track get off. Will pass tech with all race
organizations, no real damage to suit. I think it's a size 58. (Fits
me well and I'm 5'10" 175lbs.) This is a great suit for racing, track
days, or street riding. Let me know if you want to come by and try it
on. $150.

Garmin GPS 3 Brand new in box! Less than 20 minutes of use! $200

These items will be going on eBay later this week, so if you're
interested in anything, let me know!

--
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skillful defiance of it."

-Ernest Becker (1924-1974)

Sean Jordan
Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing
'93 Honda CBR1000F (Street)
'90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race)
WERA #230 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038
http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html


From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 10:59:54 2001
From: Brian Roach <roach@XXXXXX>
To: DC Cycles <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: NESBA at VIR, a review.
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:59:52 -0400


Well, we spent all weekend at VIR with NESBA on the south course... and I'm
happy to report that I'm impressed with NESBA.

They are well organized, you gets tons of track time, and the squid level is
almost nill. Everyone involved with NESBA is very friendly and helpfull.
Their control riders are NOT racers looking for free track time - they
honestly take time to help out riders improve their cornering and riding
ability in the beginner and intermediate groups. Even the Advanced group is
devoid of squiddy behavior, which really surprised/pleased me. When talking
with people after a track session, the conversation isn't "Did you see me
pass so-and-so", etc ... it's about lap times, and if each person had made
improvements. Most of the advanced guys had onboard lap timers, or someone in
the pits with a watch. If you're not familiar with being around a racetrack,
let me explain that this is a good thing - lap times are the goal, not
stuffing someone into a corner then parking it in front of them :)  I was
riding my Aprilia cup bike, and never had a problem with 600 - 1000cc guys
trying to jam into a corner in front of me... they all understood this could
be the cause of an aprilia enima mid-corner.  I also had a lot of guys who
I'd pass ask for advice in between sessions - everyone seemed honestly
interested in improving their riding - egos were not bruised.

All and all, I'm very impressed, and we'll be hitting more of their days for
practice this year (including this Friday at Summit Point on the main
course). We originally were only going to go on Saturday, and ended up
staying for Sunday as well. I would whole heartedly recommend NESBA to anyone
looking to get on a track with their motorcycle.

- Roach

--


From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 11:04:47 2001
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 08:04:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Trey Herb <trey_22206@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: NESBA at VIR, a review.
To: DC Cycles <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>

I absolutely concur. I went to NESBA at summit for the
free intro course. Absolutely great now all I need is
a race bike and a trailer.

Trey

--- Brian Roach <roach@XXXXXX> wrote:
>
> Well, we spent all weekend at VIR with NESBA on the
> south course... and I'm
> happy to report that I'm impressed with NESBA.
>
> They are well organized, you gets tons of track
> time, and the squid level is
> almost nill. Everyone involved with NESBA is very
> friendly and helpfull.
> Their control riders are NOT racers looking for free
> track time - they
> honestly take time to help out riders improve their
> cornering and riding
> ability in the beginner and intermediate groups.
> Even the Advanced group is
> devoid of squiddy behavior, which really
> surprised/pleased me. When talking
> with people after a track session, the conversation
> isn't "Did you see me
> pass so-and-so", etc ... it's about lap times, and
> if each person had made
> improvements. Most of the advanced guys had onboard
> lap timers, or someone in
> the pits with a watch. If you're not familiar with
> being around a racetrack,
> let me explain that this is a good thing - lap times
> are the goal, not
> stuffing someone into a corner then parking it in
> front of them :)  I was
> riding my Aprilia cup bike, and never had a problem
> with 600 - 1000cc guys
> trying to jam into a corner in front of me... they
> all understood this could
> be the cause of an aprilia enima mid-corner.  I also
> had a lot of guys who
> I'd pass ask for advice in between sessions -
> everyone seemed honestly
> interested in improving their riding - egos were not
> bruised.
>
> All and all, I'm very impressed, and we'll be
> hitting more of their days for
> practice this year (including this Friday at Summit
> Point on the main
> course). We originally were only going to go on
> Saturday, and ended up
> staying for Sunday as well. I would whole heartedly
> recommend NESBA to anyone
> looking to get on a track with their motorcycle.
>
> - Roach
>
> --
>


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From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 11:39:25 2001
From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." <MATTHEW.M.PFLIEGER@XXXXXX>
To: "'roach@XXXXXX'" <roach@XXXXXX>,
   DC Cycles <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: RE: NESBA at VIR, a review.
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:38:44 -0400

Thanks for the info.  I've been trying to plan my track days this year with
Team Pro-Motion and NESBA.  Its good to know either is a good choice.

Is anyone going to the NESBA days at Carolina Motorsports Park on the 16th &
17th (Saturday-Sunday)?  I spoke with a NESBA guy last week that said there
are definitely spots available so I might sign up.



-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Roach [mailto:roach@XXXXXX]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:00 AM
To: DC Cycles
Subject: NESBA at VIR, a review.



Well, we spent all weekend at VIR with NESBA on the south course... and I'm
happy to report that I'm impressed with NESBA.

They are well organized, you gets tons of track time, and the squid level is

almost nill. Everyone involved with NESBA is very friendly and helpfull.
Their control riders are NOT racers looking for free track time - they
honestly take time to help out riders improve their cornering and riding
ability in the beginner and intermediate groups. Even the Advanced group is
devoid of squiddy behavior, which really surprised/pleased me. When talking
with people after a track session, the conversation isn't "Did you see me
pass so-and-so", etc ... it's about lap times, and if each person had made
improvements. Most of the advanced guys had onboard lap timers, or someone
in
the pits with a watch. If you're not familiar with being around a racetrack,

let me explain that this is a good thing - lap times are the goal, not
stuffing someone into a corner then parking it in front of them :)  I was
riding my Aprilia cup bike, and never had a problem with 600 - 1000cc guys
trying to jam into a corner in front of me... they all understood this could

be the cause of an aprilia enima mid-corner.  I also had a lot of guys who
I'd pass ask for advice in between sessions - everyone seemed honestly
interested in improving their riding - egos were not bruised.

All and all, I'm very impressed, and we'll be hitting more of their days for

practice this year (including this Friday at Summit Point on the main
course). We originally were only going to go on Saturday, and ended up
staying for Sunday as well. I would whole heartedly recommend NESBA to
anyone
looking to get on a track with their motorcycle.

- Roach

--


From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 11:45:17 2001
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:44:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: "lisa@XXXXXX" <lgoddard@XXXXXX>
To: dccycles <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: VFR and Givi




I know there is someone out there on the DC Cycles list who has the same
body style VFR as mine and has a Givi mounted tail bag.  Can you give me
a shout off list?

Thanks,

Lisa Goddard
'95 VFR




From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 12:57:55 2001
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:48:24 -0500
From: "George Cole" <George.Cole@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>, <roach@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: NESBA at VIR, a review.

Hey Brian,

Looks like a good outfit, Glad I joined. They seem a little more organized then Team Pro Motion.

I will at Sumitt on Friday, Ill look you up.

Cheers,

George Cole


George M Cole
Technology Consultant
www.boisetech.com
301-523-4161
FAX 1-888-240-3154

>>> Brian Roach <roach@XXXXXX> wrote <SNIP>
Well, we spent all weekend at VIR with NESBA on the south course... and I'm
happy to report that I'm impressed with NESBA.



From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 13:24:44 2001
From: GOINGRIDING@XXXXXX
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:24:35 EDT
Subject: <no moto> Laid off....computer nerd in need of a job!
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

Damn, I guess the lay off bug buzzed by my office the other day.  Just
another lay off fatality (and I thought it wouldnt happen to me).  Anyway,
this computer nerd is in need of a position ASAP!
Im a Certified Netware Administrator 4.x/5.x with lots of help desk and
troubleshooting background (some law office experience as well).  Some WinNT
4/Win2000 experience also.
If your company is need of a Help Desk Specialist or Net Admin or you can
pass my info along to someone who might be able to help a fellow biker, let
me know and Ill send a resume.
Thanks
Dave

From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 14:05:23 2001
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:05:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Weaver <chris_vtr@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: <no moto> Laid off....computer nerd in need of a job!
To: GOINGRIDING@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX

Join the club. I was laid off several weeks ago and
still haven't found a new position. The headhunters
I've talked to seem to think the market is really
stagnant right now. I wish you good luck with your
search. I'm now looking overseas for work now, since
I'm not having much luck around here. By the way - any
list members have European contacts?

I'll keep my eyes open for you, Dave. Good luck.

Cheers,
Chris Weaver (web designer)


--- GOINGRIDING@XXXXXX wrote:
> Damn, I guess the lay off bug buzzed by my office
> the other day

> Thanks
> Dave


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From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 16:07:00 2001
From: "Custer, Carl" <Carl.Custer@XXXXXX>
To: "'DCCycles'" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Cc: "'pattonme@XXXXXX'" <pattonme@XXXXXX>,
   "'PenguinBiker@XXXXXX'" <PenguinBiker@XXXXXX>
Subject: horns
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:07:37 -0400

pattonme@XXXXXX writes:
> which is why you use the horn BEFORE it's an emergency. (SIPDE and all
that).

Long john Opined," When I (P)redict some moron is about to do something
stupid,  I (D)ecide not to trust them to hear my horn. And (E)xecute  an
evasive maneuver. If it is not an emergency yet you do not need a loud horn.
If it is, the horn, no matter how loud cannot be relied on."

You're correct that a horn may not help IN an emergency.
However, I believe Patton's point was: a horn can PREVENT an emergency by
getting the dumbass' attention.
A good toot will rip a BDC from their reverie and have them start looking
for the semi breathing down their neck.
Because a good toot stimulates the BDCs to pay attention, it makes the roads
a safer place for all.
<broken record> Don't rely on the horn to save your sorry butt at the last
second.  Visual conspicuity: lane placement, lights, yadda . . . are
critical factors . . . </broken record>

for the truly energy conscience
Mark claims:
> I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want 60+lbs of Lead Acid batteries
in  between MY legs.
>  Mark
L-J:" Hell no! I want exploding hydrocarbons between my legs!"

Anyone old enough to remember the line from Georgy Girl?
Reporter" "How do you remain so cheerful?"
Scooter star:
"If you had 50 ccs vibrating between your legs all day, you'd be cheerful
too."
RisquM-i stuff for 1966.

Carl in Bethesda
Commuting into your nation's capital since 1981 through sun, rain, over
snow, and around road ragers.
'85 VF700S (Rocin-ahorito); '83 VF700F (666) '97 Aerostich Roadcrafter (Fred
the Red)

Don't need no loud pipes; I got big honking tooters:
http://members.tripod.com/~v65_magna/sos_99/sat_lunch2.jpg
http://www.crosswinds.net/~denbrook/Motorcycles/Events/mmc-2-17-01/Carls_Sab
re.jpg


From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 17:00:14 2001
From: "Laura Granato" <lgranato@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Track day at VIR, NESBA, my view
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:01:49 -0400

Wow is all I can say.  As Brian said, NESBA was awesome.  I started out in
the advanced group and quickly realized that I wanted to bump down to
intermediate.  I had just switched my bike to GP shift, and was learning a
new track, so I thought I'd be more comfortable in the intermediate group.
I went and asked about switching groups and they said "no problem."  After
that, my day was awesome.  the beginner and intermediate groups have control
riders, the advanced group doesn't, and let me tell you, I am glad that I
bumped down to a group with control riders.  I learned so much that day!
The control riders were awesome! They really knew what they were talking
about, and spent a lot of time with me on the track and off.  By the end of
the day, my riding had improved a lot.

I rode two whole days and didn't have one time where another rider did
something stupid.  No squidly moves out on the track, which made the
environment much more comfortable for learning.  I also heard, though, that
they do not put up with behavior like that...if someone is unsafe, they have
no problem telling them to leave.


All in all, awesome two days! NESBA is great, and we will be taking many of
their track days.  If you are new to a track, I'd suggest signing up with
NESBA.  The beginner group had a larger amount of control riders, and the
instruction was awesome. There was even a guy out there on a cruiser!!!
Check out their web site for a list of their track days...they have a ton!
www.nesba.com

Laura


From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 21:30:06 2001
From: "Howard J. Koontz" <HOFOJOKO@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Harley radio?
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:29:32 -0400

Hey,
     I was thinking. I would really like to have a radio on my soundless
FLHT. But the Harley radio kit is about $750 all told and that doesn't
include having to do my own instllation. It would seem to me I could get any
decently priced marine radio (needs to be water-proof/resistant) and
speakers for a better price. Does anyone have anythoughts on this, or know
anyone who would? Feel free to hit me off list at this address or
HOFOJOKO@XXXXXX as I know it affect relatively few on this list.

Howard J. Koontz
2001 Harley Daidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard --> 600 miles a week so far.
Didn't see any of you once.
1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project



From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun  4 21:52:16 2001
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 21:46:19 -0400
From: "William J. Huson" <bhuson@XXXXXX>
To: "Howard J. Koontz" <HOFOJOKO@XXXXXX>
CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Re: Harley radio?

Clue - not all marine radios are water resistant - the one's they usually put in
new boats are $20 cheapos.  True story, I sold boats.  The feature you need is
the auto sound volume, reads the ambient noise and pumps up the volume so you
can hear it, and backs off when you slow down/stop.  But I'm sure *someone*
offers an m/c type radio at less than $750.

Bill

Howard J. Koontz wrote:

> Hey,
>      I was thinking. I would really like to have a radio on my soundless
> FLHT. But the Harley radio kit is about $750 all told and that doesn't
> include having to do my own instllation. It would seem to me I could get any
> decently priced marine radio (needs to be water-proof/resistant) and
> speakers for a better price. Does anyone have anythoughts on this, or know
> anyone who would? Feel free to hit me off list at this address or
> HOFOJOKO@XXXXXX as I know it affect relatively few on this list.
>
> Howard J. Koontz
> 2001 Harley Daidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard --> 600 miles a week so far.
> Didn't see any of you once.
> 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project


From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun  5 08:41:14 2001
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 05:41:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Leon Begeman <mriderleon@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Harley radio?
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

If you're going to put regular speakers on the bike,
don't skimp.  It takes a lot of volume to overpower
the wind and motor noise at 70 mph.

Lately I've been putting speakers in the helmet and
using those instead.  BassMonsters used to be the only
choice, but now J&M, Chatterbox and others have pretty
good headsets for helmets

Putting the speakers in the helmet also allows for a
reasonably priced CB/FRS/intercom to be integrated
into the system.  The microphone is not difficult to
mount when the speakers have to go in there anyway.

Leon.
--- "Howard J. Koontz" <HOFOJOKO@XXXXXX> wrote:
> Hey,
>      I was thinking. I would really like to have a
> radio on my soundless
> FLHT. But the Harley radio kit is about $750 all
> told and that doesn't
> include having to do my own instllation. It would
> seem to me I could get any
> decently priced marine radio (needs to be
> water-proof/resistant) and
> speakers for a better price. Does anyone have
> anythoughts on this, or know
> anyone who would? Feel free to hit me off list at
> this address or
> HOFOJOKO@XXXXXX as I know it affect relatively
> few on this list.
>
> Howard J. Koontz
> 2001 Harley Daidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard -->
> 600 miles a week so far.
> Didn't see any of you once.
> 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project
>
>


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From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun  5 08:51:00 2001
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 05:50:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scratch <iefbr142000@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Harley radio?
To: DCC <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>

Howard wrote:
> I would really like to have a radio on my soundless
> FLHT.

But you have all that classic 'merican motor music
already!

Rich

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From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun  5 09:36:04 2001
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 06:36:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nomad <nomad98@XXXXXX>
Subject: Attn: Chris Weaver
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

Chris:
E-mail me when you get the chance regarding a possible employment
opportunity.
Herb
Nomad98@XXXXXX

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From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun  5 09:48:34 2001
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 09:45:13 -0400
From: Dale Horstman <the.horkster@XXXXXX>
Subject: East Coast BBG
To: DC Cycles List <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>

Just trying to guage the interest in an East Coast BBG
group record attempt in order to shush the self-proclaimed
big dawgs out west.  Mid July, start in Raleigh, NC, down
to Fort Lauderdale, across Alligator Alley, end up in Lower
Alabama, that'd leave a near-1000 mile day to get back home.

We need around 40 riders to break the record.  Anyone
here interested?  I'm doing it.

Horkster

--
Mandatory second line (CM tm)

Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX  AWSHIDT #322 - 27 of 99 done.
Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth

'98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer
'99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi
'82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress

From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun  5 12:19:24 2001
From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX
To: "lisa@XXXXXX" <lgoddard@XXXXXX>
Cc: dccycles <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: red light this morning
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 12:25:44 -0700

You have to watch out behind you too...

I was going down GA ave towards U street...  following a lady friend
riding her 93 gsxr 750.  The light turned yellow while she was in the
intersection, and I slowed down to stop for the soon to be red light..

I checked my mirror as I was braking to stop.. and I saw a car right
on my ass.. I guess the moron behind me thought I was going to rip
through the intersection..   so I modulated my brakes to keep a decent
space between us. So I come to a near stop after the white line so
that moron could come to a  stop first.

No way was I going to let that moron run me through an intersection
so I turned right on the street by howard U hospital.. then I figured,
well my friend is probably still on GA ave, so I hit a U turn, got the
green light, made a right and got back with her at the corner of U.

I'm glad I have mirrors,  good braking technique, and awareness to
check my mirrors.

Be safe out there!

Danny


From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun  5 13:20:43 2001
From: "Laura Granato" <lgranato@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: new member info section
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:22:19 -0400

Due to my HTML-challenged self, I have redone the bios section into a format
that I will be able to update easily.  I have NOT hooked up the web site
links in people's bios yet, so please don't email me telling me they don't
work. :-)  Take a peek.  Hopefully soon I'll be able to link each person's
name to their bio, but for now, this works.

I have a few more I have to add.  If anyone else wants their bio added, now
would be a great time to send me your info!!!!

Thanks!
Laura
www.dccycles.com


From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun  5 13:39:54 2001
From: "Laura Granato" <lgranato@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: featured member stuff needed
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:41:34 -0400

Hi all! I've added a new section in our member info section on the site.
It's called the "featured member" section.  Every few weeks I will feature a
new member on the site, so start sending me your stuff!!!

Here are a few questions to answer, but feel free to send me anything you
want to put up!!!

Name
Age
occupation
Personal Status
How many years riding
Current Bike
Dream Bike
Took MSF course?
best advice anyone ever gave you about riding
Scariest Moment on Your bike
Dumbest Thing you've ever done on your bike
Best advice for those getting into riding
Have you ever crashed? If so, share how and why (so others can learn)
Favorite part about riding
Biggest revelation you've had while riding
favorite motorcycle shop


TIA
Laura
favorite roads




From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun  5 16:51:06 2001
From: "Paul Wilson" <pawilson@XXXXXX>
To: "dc-cycles list" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: red light this morning
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 16:51:15 -0400

----- Original Message -----
From: <daniel_ex250@XXXXXX>

>You have to watch out behind you too...

>I was going down GA ave towards U street...  following a lady friend
>riding her 93 gsxr 750.  The light turned yellow while she was in the
>intersection, and I slowed down to stop for the soon to be red light..

>I checked my mirror as I was braking to stop.. and I saw a car right
>on my ass..

A very sound piece of advice.  MSF thumps on this, and with good reason.
What's the first thing you do when slowing to a stop?  Check your mirrors
for traffic behind you.  (Notice:  I put that tidbit in question form.  My
fellow newbie instructors out there will fully appreciate why I did that!)

Paul in DC
95 VFR750F
MSF certified instructor


From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun  5 19:06:01 2001
From: MJordan666@XXXXXX
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:05:46 EDT
Subject: Horns
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX


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I just put a set of Fiamms on that I got for Christmas a year or so back.

The bike no longer goes "Yoo-hoo, excuse me"

It now goes "GO HOME AND CHANGE YOUR UNDERWARE!"

I'm gonna troll for a BDC not paying attention...

Michael J.


--part1_e3.15c0bb9c.284ebfca_boundary

<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>I just put a set of Fiamms on that I got for Christmas a year or so back.
<BR>
<BR>The bike no longer goes "Yoo-hoo, excuse me"
<BR>
<BR>It now goes "GO HOME AND CHANGE YOUR UNDERWARE!"
<BR>
<BR>I'm gonna troll for a BDC not paying attention...
<BR>
<BR>Michael J.
<BR></FONT></HTML>

--part1_e3.15c0bb9c.284ebfca_boundary--

From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun  5 19:05:51 2001
From: MJordan666@XXXXXX
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:05:40 EDT
Subject: Horns
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX


--part1_a1.1668181d.284ebfc4_boundary

I just put a set of Fiamms on that I got for Christmas a year or so back.

The bike no longer goes "Yoo-hoo, excuse me"

It now goes "GO HOME AND CHANGE YOUR UNDERWARE!"

I'm gonna troll for a BDC not paying attention...

Michael J.


--part1_a1.1668181d.284ebfc4_boundary

<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>I just put a set of Fiamms on that I got for Christmas a year or so back.
<BR>
<BR>The bike no longer goes "Yoo-hoo, excuse me"
<BR>
<BR>It now goes "GO HOME AND CHANGE YOUR UNDERWARE!"
<BR>
<BR>I'm gonna troll for a BDC not paying attention...
<BR>
<BR>Michael J.
<BR></FONT></HTML>

--part1_a1.1668181d.284ebfc4_boundary--

From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun  5 22:19:48 2001
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 22:19:35 -0400
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
From: Andrew Culpepper <biga@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: East Coast BBG

At 09:45 AM 6/5/01 , you wrote:
>Just trying to guage the interest in an East Coast BBG
>group record attempt in order to shush the self-proclaimed
>big dawgs out west.  Mid July, start in Raleigh, NC, down
>to Fort Lauderdale, across Alligator Alley, end up in Lower
>Alabama, that'd leave a near-1000 mile day to get back home.
>
>We need around 40 riders to break the record.  Anyone
>here interested?  I'm doing it.
>
>Horkster

Good luck Dale.  I think it's the wrong time of year.  Maybe in December?

How 'bout we go to Mid-Ohio for the Vintage Races via Raleigh, Chattanooga,
Paducah, and Terra Haute.  We can start from the Woodbridge Commuter
Lot.  Or, if you want to start in Raleigh, we could hit Memphis too.  SA6
says we can do it in 23:07 averaging 70mph on the interstate.
This would be just about double my farthest day. :-)

Seriously though, I think it would be very difficult east of the Mississippi.

Andrew
'90 EX500


From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun  5 22:51:37 2001
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:51:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Suzookus Maximus <suzookusmaximus@XXXXXX>
Subject: Footpeg Riding Style
To: DC Cycles List <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>

Wanted to get some opinions from you all about where
you put your feet on the pegs. :)

Personally, I like to ride with ball of my foot on the
peg and just move it up a little to shift or brake. I
was thinking that it might be better just to ride with
the middle of my foot centered on the peg. However it
always feels kind of weird to me to keep it there for
long.

I don't usually have to shift that much on my bike on
most streets or back roads; I usually stick it in
third or fourth and ride up and down the powerband.
Anything above that tends to get me into 'wreckless'
territory. :0 Recently, I was thinking that the extra
tenths of a second might save me someday with the
right foot that much closer to the brake and it might
be worth 'get-n used to.'

Comments?

-jeff

=====
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->email: suzookusmaximus@XXXXXX
->web: http://profiles.yahoo.com/suzookusmaximus

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From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 07:07:47 2001
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 04:07:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Gimer <t_gimer@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Footpeg Riding Style
To: Suzookus Maximus <suzookusmaximus@XXXXXX>,
   DC Cycles List <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>

--- Suzookus Maximus <suzookusmaximus@XXXXXX> wrote:
> Wanted to get some opinions from you all about where
> you put your feet on the pegs. :)
>
> Personally, I like to ride with ball of my foot on the
> peg and just move it up a little to shift or brake. I
> was thinking that it might be better just to ride with
> the middle of my foot centered on the peg. However it
> always feels kind of weird to me to keep it there for
> long.
>
> I don't usually have to shift that much on my bike on
> most streets or back roads; I usually stick it in
> third or fourth and ride up and down the powerband.
> Anything above that tends to get me into 'wreckless'
> territory. :0

wreckless = good
reckless = bad

in virginia, reckless can be easily found in first or
second gear; third and fourth are for jail time; fifth and
sixth are useless.



> Recently, I was thinking that the extra
> tenths of a second might save me someday with the
> right foot that much closer to the brake and it might
> be worth 'get-n used to.'
>
> Comments?

it really depends on your riding conditions.  and, it is
entirely possible to grind the toes off your boots if you
get your foot stuck under the shifter/lever.  also, in my
opinion, if you "cover" the rear brake, you're more likely
to use too much of it and lock it up...also not good.  so,
in the twisties i put my weight on the balls of my feet and
get maximum clearance.  at many other times, i ride with my
feet under the shifter/lever for comfort.  always keeping
them in the same position is rather tiring....find a
consistent routine.





=====
tg

check out http://www.murphygimer.com

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From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 08:00:02 2001
From: "Todd Peer" <toddbpeer@XXXXXX>
To: "AA DC Cycles" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: East Coast BBG
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:58:17 -0400

Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 09:45:13 -0400
From: Dale Horstman <the.horkster@XXXXXX>
Subject: East Coast BBG
To: DC Cycles List <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>

Just trying to guage the interest in an East Coast BBG
group record attempt in order to shush the self-proclaimed
big dawgs out west.  Mid July, start in Raleigh, NC, down
to Fort Lauderdale, across Alligator Alley, end up in Lower
Alabama, that'd leave a near-1000 mile day to get back home.

We need around 40 riders to break the record.  Anyone
here interested?  I'm doing it.

Horkster
------------------------------------------------------------------

Me!

And for the very reason to shut them up already!

Todd (Springfield, VA)



From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 09:02:31 2001
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001  9:02 -0500
From: "Tuan Diep" <Tuan_Diep@XXXXXX>
To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: SV windshield

Does anyone know where I can get a good small windshield for the SV650?
THanks.    Tuan

From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 09:09:29 2001
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:09:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Scratch <iefbr142000@XXXXXX>
Subject: RE: Horns
To: MJordan666@XXXXXX, DCC <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>

Michael J. wrote...
"I just put a set of Fiamms on that I got for
Christmas a year or so back. "

I really like my Fiamm horn too.  It makes 'em think
there's a '71 Ford Galaxy 500 next to 'em.  I scared
the poop out of a cager on Sterling Blvd the other
day. I watched him drifting back and forth, and when
he finally drifted a little too far into my lane, I
gave him the TOOT (next to his open window). He jumped
so high, I think he banged his head on the roof of the
car. :)

Much more conducive to survival than my original
vintage Lucas horn.

Rich

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From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 10:19:25 2001
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:19:17 -0400
From: Chuck Pena <cvkgpena@XXXXXX>
To: DC Cycles <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
CC: parr@XXXXXX, novamgr@XXXXXX
Subject: Bike Night @ The Rock

Just a reminder to y'all that this Saturday, June 9th is Bike Night @
The Rock in DC from 5pm to 9pm.  We have the parking lot adjacent to The
Rock reserved for motorcycles.  The rooftop will be open.  Motorcycle
videos on the big screen.  Should be loads of fun.  More info at

http://www.geocities.com/bikenight

If you're not going to the beach, you'd better be at The Rock!

Chuck

--
"Wherever you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Banzai
visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas

From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 10:24:20 2001
From: "Rob Keiser" <robkeiser@XXXXXX>
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Re: SV windshield
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:12:45 -0400

You might try Arizona Motorsports.  Looks like they have the Givi, and maybe
could get the National Cycle one I've seen elsewhere.

They're very good to us on the VFR list.

http://store.yahoo.com/azmotorsports/suzukisv650.html
http://www.nationalcycle.com/

Hope it helps.

Rob
'98 VFR800


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From: "Tuan Diep" <Tuan_Diep@XXXXXX>
To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: SV windshield
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001  9:02 -0500

Does anyone know where I can get a good small windshield for the SV650?
THanks.    Tuan

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From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 10:32:00 2001
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:31:48 -0400
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
From: Sean Jordan <sean.jordan@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Horns

--============_-1220284587==_ma============

>It now goes "GO HOME AND CHANGE YOUR UNDERWARE!"


Underware? Is that something that you put under your computer? You've
been in the Eastern Technology Corridor too long......

--
"For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the
skillful defiance of it."

-Ernest Becker (1924-1974)

Sean Jordan
Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing
'93 Honda CBR1000F (Street)
'90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race)
WERA #230 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038
http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html

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<html><head><style type="text/css"><!--
blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li { margin-top: 0 ; margin-bottom: 0 }
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Arial" size="-1">It now goes
&quot;GO HOME AND CHANGE YOUR UNDERWARE!&quot;</font></blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Underware? Is that something that you put under your computer?
You've been in the Eastern Technology Corridor too long......</div>
<div><br></div>

<div>-- <br>
&quot;For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and
the skillful defiance of it.&quot;<br>
<br>
-Ernest Becker (1924-1974)<br>
<br>
Sean Jordan<br>
Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing<br>
'93 Honda CBR1000F (Street)<br>
'90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race)<br>
WERA #230 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038<br>
http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/j<span
></span>ordanracing.html<br>
</div>
</body>
</html>
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From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 10:46:38 2001
From: "Randy Moran" <jmoran@XXXXXX>
To: "Suzookus Maximus" <suzookusmaximus@XXXXXX>,
   "DC Cycles List" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: RE: Footpeg Riding Style
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:41:54 -0400

I always ride with the balls of my feet on the pegs. Don't know if it's
better or not but it just feels better and it's also less likely that I'll
scuff my toes at heavy lean angles. I suppose the "foot closer to the brake
pedal" is a valid point, but in my case I don't use the back brake at all so
it doesn't matter.

Randy

-----Original Message-----
From: Suzookus Maximus [mailto:suzookusmaximus@XXXXXX]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:52 PM
To: DC Cycles List
Subject: Footpeg Riding Style


Wanted to get some opinions from you all about where
you put your feet on the pegs. :)

Personally, I like to ride with ball of my foot on the
peg and just move it up a little to shift or brake. I
was thinking that it might be better just to ride with
the middle of my foot centered on the peg. However it
always feels kind of weird to me to keep it there for
long.

I don't usually have to shift that much on my bike on
most streets or back roads; I usually stick it in
third or fourth and ride up and down the powerband.
Anything above that tends to get me into 'wreckless'
territory. :0 Recently, I was thinking that the extra
tenths of a second might save me someday with the
right foot that much closer to the brake and it might
be worth 'get-n used to.'

Comments?

-jeff

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From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 11:05:13 2001
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:05:00 -0400
From: Chuck Pena <cvkgpena@XXXXXX>
To: Tuan Diep <Tuan_Diep@XXXXXX>
CC: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: SV windshield

Tuan,

The June 2001 issue of "Motorcyclist" had an article about "hopping up"
an SV.  The pic they had showed a Suzuki add-on quarter fairing
color-matched (red, in this case) to the bike.  Seemed kinda pricey at a
suggested retail of $429.99, however.  But along with the Targa solo
seat cowl, gave the naked SV a really nice look.

Chuck, aka Deerhunter

Tuan Diep wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a good small windshield for the SV650?
> THanks.    Tuan

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visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas

From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 11:10:34 2001
From: "Laura Granato" <lgranato@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: new article up...
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:12:12 -0400

article 2 of mine is up on www.roadracers.com

:-)
Laura


From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 11:27:29 2001
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:25:25 -0500
From: "George Cole" <George.Cole@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>, <Tuan_Diep@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: SV windshield

Tuan,

Check out the archives on svrider.com, there is a ton of info on different windscreens/fairings. A lot of people seem to like the Buell flyscreen.

I had a Targa on my SV, It took a lot of wind off of your mid section, but the windblast was directed right into my helmet and created lots of wind noise. The hole for the headlight was smaller than the light and at night the inside of the fairing was all lit up. I added some foam rubber to fix that.

Regards,

George Cole


George M Cole
Technology Consultant
www.boisetech.com
301-523-4161
FAX 1-888-240-3154

>>> "Tuan Diep" <Tuan_Diep@XXXXXX> 06/06 9:20 AM >>>
Does anyone know where I can get a good small windshield for the SV650?
THanks.    Tuan


From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 11:29:46 2001
From: "Laura Granato" <lgranato@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Check out todd's article
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:31:24 -0400

after many, many months of waiting...I wanted to announce that Todd's
article is up on the DC Cycles site in the articles section.  My public
apology goes out to Todd for it taking so long!!!

Laura


From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 11:53:20 2001
From: "Laura Granato" <lgranato@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: for those that don't understand
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:54:58 -0400

when you go to the member bios section, you will get to a main page.  when
you click on the bios link, it will take you to a page that has letters, and
a list of names...the list of names are not links yet.  click on a-c, d-e,
etc. and it will take you to the list members bios.  I figured it was easier
than scrolling through an entire list of names...you could see the members
names, and then click in to see their bios.  the way the page was set up
with tables before, I was unable to make changes or add new ones with my
limited HTML experience...this way I can add bios quickly and easily.

Laura


From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 13:03:20 2001
From: Cedric Bernescut <bernescut@XXXXXX>
To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: RE: Horns
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:02:43 -0400

It's moments like this that make life worth living :)
Cedric

He jumped so high, I think he banged his head on the roof of the car. :)
Rich

From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 13:36:31 2001
From: "Jon Strang" <jmstrang@XXXXXX>
To: "DC Cycles" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: FW: Budds Creek
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:36:34 -0400
X-SLUIDL: 96863673-5A9211D5-8E080060-08C770E5

try again, bounced off of my server.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Strang [mailto:jmstrang@XXXXXX]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:46 PM
To: DC Cycles
Subject: Budds Creek



Anyone going?

--jon (newbie to this list and lurker for about 30 hours)
2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200 (black and nekkid)

From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 14:43:59 2001
From: "Greg Thompson" <johnnyteardrop@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: riding to hoot
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:44:55 -0400

i'm looking for one or more riding buddies for the hoot in two weeks.  my
plan is:

leave dc area on tues (19th) sometime in the late afternoon
ride halfway, stop for dinner/motel
wake up weds and finish the ride

anyone care to join me?
--
        -greg

From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 15:10:25 2001
From: "Matthew Patton" <pattonme@XXXXXX>
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 14:10:17 -0500
Subject: rain tire advice needed

I looked at our archives (which are way out of date - attn. maintainer!) for hints. I have BT56 (I think) on my newly acquired race bike (GS500E) but apparently they don't do too well in the wet. (PO lowsided in drizzle. blamed the tires - no comment on my part)

So, seeing as how track days, various track schools, and what have you run rain or shine I'd like to know what tires I should look at. Are plain ol' street tires (eg. Metzler Z4, Mich Pilot's, BT10/20's) perfect for this duty? Or is there something unique to "rains". Or since I'm a rank newbie should I just ride?


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From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 15:38:37 2001
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:33:07 -0400
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
From: Sean Jordan <sean.jordan@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: rain tire advice needed

Rain tires are super sticky and deeply grooved. They provide amazing
traction in the wet. However, don't use them in the dry; they will
chunk up and fly apart in less time than you would think possible.
DOT tires are ok for wet racing/track use, but you must ride very
easy. If you look at most DOT race tires, the tread stops 1/2" from
the edge of the tire. If you hit that "slick" edge in the wet, you
will experience a marked decrease in available traction. (Don't ask
me how I know this.) The grooves on street DOT's goes out farther.

--
"For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the
skillful defiance of it."

-Ernest Becker (1924-1974)

Sean Jordan
Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing
'93 Honda CBR1000F (Street)
'90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race)
WERA #230 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038
http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html


From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 16:36:42 2001
Content-return: allowed
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 16:36:07 -0400
From: "Ledford, Calvin" <cledford@XXXXXX>
Subject: RE: riding to hoot
To: "'Greg Thompson'" <johnnyteardrop@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX

Greg,

I'd ride with you, but I'm going down early on the 15th to visit family for
a few days prior.  I may be free to head back on the 23rd, but am
considering a quick run up to Indiana before heading home so don't know my
route yet.

If you'd like to hook up for a beer or something while the Hoot is going on,
please email me off-list and I'll give you my cell.  I'll have it with me in
Knoxville and wouldn't mind meeting up with a fellow lister.

-Calvin Ledford
'00VFR800 Interceptor
'84 VF500F Interceptor

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Thompson [mailto:johnnyteardrop@XXXXXX]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:45 PM
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: riding to hoot


i'm looking for one or more riding buddies for the hoot in two weeks.  my
plan is:

leave dc area on tues (19th) sometime in the late afternoon
ride halfway, stop for dinner/motel
wake up weds and finish the ride

anyone care to join me?
--
        -greg

From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 16:54:48 2001
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:54:30 -0400
To: ielliott@XXXXXX, "Palmisano, Chris" <cpalmisa@XXXXXX>,
   Jason Kopp <jkopp@XXXXXX>, Jennifer Addie <Jennifer_Addie@XXXXXX>,
   squeekygal@XXXXXX, renee@XXXXXX, dshaub@XXXXXX, tfowler@XXXXXX,
   dc-cycles@XXXXXX, katieareynolds@XXXXXX, thomasajordan@XXXXXX
From: Sean Jordan <sean.jordan@XXXXXX>
Subject: Team Jordan Racing in the news!

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Local Man Engages in Death-Defying Sport
Roiters
Jun 6 2001 4:12PM
STERLING (Reuters) - During the week, twenty-two-year-old Sean Jordan
can be found behind his desk analyzing computer systems and
diagnosing problems for mega-ISP UUNET Technologies. Plain in
appearance and mild in demeanor, he blends into the background and
appears to be average in all respects.

Not on the weekends, however.

As owner and team captain of Team Jordan Racing, (an affiliate of
DC-Cycles Racing), he participates in the most dangerous and visually
dramatic motorsport in the world: motorcycle roadracing. Brightly
colored machines, leather-clad riders, speeds topping 180 miles per
hour at some tracks, engines howling, knees dragging. On most
weekends in the summer, at racetracks throughout the country,
hundreds of racers gather to race and socialize and, most
importantly, to push themselves and their machines to the limit.

Why does he do this?

"I've always enjoyed motorsports of all kinds." he says, "I had been
riding a motorcycles for years when I met some guys that were into
road-racing. A friend of mine loaned me his old race bike, and I gave
it a try. I was instantly hooked!"

=46ellow teammate Randy Moran, (team-mentor) reflected on his 10 year
career as road-racer.  "I was instantly captivated by the terrible
beauty and grace of the sport.", he says, and most enjoys "the
camaraderie between racers."

But you don't have to race, or even own a motorcycle to enjoy
roadracing. This Saturday and Sunday, Team Jordan Racing will be
competing at Summit Point Raceway, West Virginia. A 60 minute drive
from Northern Virginia, Summit Point is set in the beautiful
foothills of the Appalachian mountains. Entries fees on Sunday are
$15, and there will be plenty of beverages and snacks for all guests
of Team Jordan/DC-Cycles Racing. Please contact Sean for further
information and directions.


Copyright =A9 2001 Roiters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication
or redistribution of Roiters content, including by framing or
similiar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written
consent of Roiters. Roiters shall not be liable for any errors or
delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon.
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<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#000000"><b>Local Man Engages
in Death-Defying Sport</b></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#999999">Roiters</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#999999">Jun 6 2001
4:12PM</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#000000">STERLING (Reuters)
- During the week, twenty-two-year-old Sean Jordan can be found
behind his desk analyzing computer systems and diagnosing problems
for mega-ISP UUNET Technologies. Plain in appearance and mild in
demeanor, he blends into the background and appears to be average in
all respects.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#000000"><br></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#000000">Not on the
weekends, however.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#000000"><br></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#000000">As owner and team
captain of Team Jordan Racing, (an affiliate of DC-Cycles Racing), he
participates in the most dangerous and visually dramatic motorsport
in the world: motorcycle roadracing. Brightly colored machines,
leather-clad riders, speeds topping 180 miles per hour at some
tracks, engines howling, knees dragging. On most weekends in the
summer, at racetracks throughout the country, hundreds of racers
gather to race and socialize and, most importantly, to push
themselves and their machines to the limit.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#000000"><br></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#000000">Why does he do
this?</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#000000"><br></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#000000">&quot;I've always
enjoyed motorsports of all kinds.&quot; he says, &quot;I had been
riding a motorcycles for years when I met some guys that were into
road-racing. A friend of mine loaned me his old race bike, and I gave
it a try. I was instantly hooked!&quot;</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#000000"><br></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1">Fellow teammate Randy Moran,
(team-mentor) reflected on his 10 year career as road-racer.&nbsp;
&quot;I was instantly captivated by the terrible beauty and grace of
the sport.&quot;, he says, and most enjoys &quot;the camaraderie
between racers.&quot;</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1"><br></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1">But you don't have to race, or even
own a motorcycle to enjoy roadracing. This Saturday and Sunday, Team
Jordan Racing will be competing at Summit Point Raceway, West
Virginia. A 60 minute drive from Northern Virginia, Summit Point is
set in the beautiful foothills of the Appalachian mountains. Entries
fees on Sunday are $15, and there will be plenty of beverages and
snacks for all guests of Team Jordan/DC-Cycles Racing. Please contact
Sean for further information and directions.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1"><br></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#000000"><br></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"+1" color=3D"#999999">Copyright =A9 2001
Roiters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution
of Roiters content, including by framing or similiar means, is
expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Roiters.
Roiters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content,
or for any actions taken in reliance thereon.</font></div>
</body>
</html>
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From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 17:05:03 2001
From: "Laura Granato" <lgranato@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Cc: "Cassandra Eckert" <c_eckert@XXXXXX>
Subject: Fw: Biker Bash Cancer Fundraiser
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:06:40 -0400

I am passing this along.  Although I won't be in town this day, if I were
here, I would be.  If anyone can attend, I think it would be great!  Not
only does it sound like a lot of fun, it helps a good cause.

Laura Granato
'99 suzuki GS500E (street bike)
'00 Aprilia rs250 (race bike)
www.dccycles.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cassandra Eckert" <c_eckert@XXXXXX>
To: <lgranato@XXXXXX>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:32 PM
Subject: Biker Bash Cancer Fundraiser


> I was hoping you could take a few minutes and post this cancer
> fundraising event on your website calendar. It would mean so much to so
> many. Please let me know if you are able to do so. If not, please feel
> free to inform your friends of the event. It is sure to be a good time.
>
> Biker Bash : Helping Kids "Kick Cancer"
>
> Join G. Gordon Liddy, Brett Conway, Steven Alexander, Champ Bailey, &
> Corey Raymer of the Washington Redskins, former Super Bowl Champion
> Ricky Ervins, and local sports talents and media personalities. You
> don't have to have a bike to have fun. Come by the Birchmere and watch
> the riders roll in!!! $20 Bash only per person. $25 pre-registration per
>
> person.
>
> Sunday June 24th 2001
> Registration begins at 10 am. Ride begins at 12 noon.
> Route: From 9407 Livingston Road, Fort Washington, MD 20744 to the
> Birchmere 3701 Mt. Vernon Ave. Alexandria VA, 2230 (approx. 29 miles)
>
> Bash: Celebrate at the Birchmere in Alexandria. Meet & greet celebrity
> riders and enjoy an afternoon of fun, food & live music.
>
> What to do:
> 1st Gear: SIGN UP (driver and passenger must register separately)
>
> 2nd Gear: RAISE MONEY (ask friends, relatives, and business associates
> to sponsor you by making a tax deductable donation to the Leukemia &
> Lymphoma Society.
>
> 3rd Gear: MAKE YOUR RIDE COUNT (Turn in your sponsor envelope and
> donations on the day of the ride)
>
> Fundraising Incentives!
>
> $20 Gets you admission to bash only.
>
> $25/35 Bash admission and commemorative event pin.
>
> $100 Event T-shirt, all of the above, PLUS unlimited food & total of 3
> beverage tickets.
>
> $250 Event Polo shirt, autographed photo of Brett Conway of the
> Washington Redskins & all of the above.
>
> $500 Name entered in drawing for 2 Redskins' tickets & all of the above.
>
> $1,000 Named entered in drawing for an official Harley-Davidson jacket
> autographed by Washington Redskins' players & personally autographed to
> the winner by "Wille G" of Harley Davidson. Also your picture with Brett
>
> Conway in front of a Harley, and all of the above.
>
> *Event polo shirts & autographed photos will be mailed after the ride.
>
> For more information and registration forms please call Erin Ward @
> 301-248-1200.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Cassandra Eckert
> Editor in Chief
> DCity Magazine
> http://www.dcitymag.com
>
>
>
>
>


From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 17:32:32 2001
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:32:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Gimer <t_gimer@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Team Jordan Racing in the news!
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

what the hell is roiters?  is this a spoof?  an
autobiography?

death-defying?  whatever.

i wish the yanker would stop yanking.



--- Sean Jordan <sean.jordan@XXXXXX> wrote:
> Local Man Engages in Death-Defying Sport
> Roiters
<snip of self-promoting "article">

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From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 17:45:33 2001
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:45:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hugh Caldwell <twg@XXXXXX>
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Re: Team Jordan Racing in the news!


	So are there a lot of members on the Jordan racing team or
is it an army of one?

----------------------------------------------------------------
Hugh A. Caldwell     BeGeek   Simpleton#9   ZR750-C2    VFR800FI
----------------------------------------------------------------



From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 17:54:52 2001
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:54:33 -0400
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
From: Sean Jordan <sean.jordan@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Team Jordan Racing in the news!

>what the hell is roiters?

A spoof of "reuters".

>  is this a spoof?

Yes. Didn't I just say that?

>   an
>autobiography?

Sort of.

>
>death-defying?

Road-racing = death-defying. Fellow racers, back me up on this.
WSDYMOFO Rides are not death-defying. Bring your 996 out to the track
sometime, pretty boy. Me and my 400 will show you "death-defying".

>  whatever.

     whatever times infinity. Ha! I win. Sucker.

>
>i wish the yanker would stop yanking.

What's got you so convinced that I'm the yanker anyways? I've never
had to hide behind a fabricated persona to voice my opinions. I think
it's Randy Moran. Go read his past posts; he's mister enlightened
verbosity man.

This was just a fun way to tell everyone that it's another
race-weekend at Summit point, and that they should come out to drink
beer and spectate, and NOT spend that money on pizza and a movie with
their loved-one.



--
"For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the
skillful defiance of it."

-Ernest Becker (1924-1974)

Sean Jordan
Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing
'93 Honda CBR1000F (Street)
'90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race)
WERA #230 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038
http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html


From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 18:04:14 2001
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:02:04 -0400
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
From: Sean Jordan <sean.jordan@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Team Jordan Racing in the news!

>	So are there a lot of members on the Jordan racing team or
>is it an army of one?

Team Jordan Racing is comprised of several dedicated, talented individuals.

Team Owner: Sean Jordan
Team Captain: Sean Jordan
Principal Rider: Sean Jordan
Chief Mechanic: Sean Jordan
Endurance Riders: Randy Moran & Randy Nusbaum

And also anyone that has the last name "Jordan". That's why we're
here. To bring awareness towards to issues that Jordans everywhere
face every day.

Or something like that.

--
Sean Jordan
Macintosh Systems Analyst
(703)-886-7661
UUNET Technologies
A WORLDCOM Company

From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 18:13:27 2001
From: "Laura Granato" <lgranato@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>, "Sean Jordan" <sean.jordan@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Team Jordan Racing in the news!
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:14:57 -0400

>
> This was just a fun way to tell everyone that it's another
> race-weekend at Summit point, and that they should come out to drink
> beer and spectate, and NOT spend that money on pizza and a movie with
> their loved-one.
>
I second that! And, you can even get back in time for bike night.

Come watch Jordan and I duel it out on the track.  It's on suck-aaaaaaaaaa.

LAG


From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 18:17:02 2001
X-Apparently-From: <rydin@XXXXXX>
From: "rydin" <rydin@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: RE: Team Jordan Racing in the news!
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:15:16 -0700

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Team Jordan Racing in the news!Eh...so there will be snacks huh ?

Niv
BMW F650ST
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Sean Jordan [mailto:sean.jordan@XXXXXX]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:55 PM
  To: ielliott@XXXXXX; Palmisano, Chris; Jason Kopp; Jennifer Addie;
squeekygal@XXXXXX; renee@XXXXXX; dshaub@XXXXXX; tfowler@XXXXXX;
dc-cycles@XXXXXX; katieareynolds@XXXXXX; thomasajordan@XXXXXX
  Subject: Team Jordan Racing in the news!


  "...and there will be plenty of beverages and snacks for all guests of
Team Jordan/DC-Cycles Racing. "


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1:55=20
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Jennifer=20
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From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 18:49:56 2001
From: "Laura Granato" <lgranato@XXXXXX>
To: "rydin" <rydin@XXXXXX>, <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Team Jordan Racing in the news!
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 18:51:31 -0400

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Team Jordan Racing in the news!according to Jordan, he will have snacks =
for everyone. Can we put in requests? ;-)
Laura

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: rydin=20
  To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20
  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:15 PM
  Subject: RE: Team Jordan Racing in the news!


  Eh...so there will be snacks huh ?

  Niv
  BMW F650ST
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Sean Jordan [mailto:sean.jordan@XXXXXX]
    Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 1:55 PM
    To: ielliott@XXXXXX; Palmisano, Chris; Jason Kopp; Jennifer =
Addie; squeekygal@XXXXXX; renee@XXXXXX; dshaub@XXXXXX; tfowler@XXXXXX; =
dc-cycles@XXXXXX; katieareynolds@XXXXXX; =
thomasajordan@XXXXXX
    Subject: Team Jordan Racing in the news!


    "...and there will be plenty of beverages and snacks for all guests =
of Team Jordan/DC-Cycles Racing. "
    =20

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From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 18:56:27 2001
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 18:56:27 -0400
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
From: Larry Larson <llarson@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Fw: Biker Bash Cancer Fundraiser
Cc: "Laura Granato" <lgranato@XXXXXX>

At 05:06 PM 6/6/01, Laura wrote:
>...  Although I won't be in town this day, if I were
>here, I would be.


Not by any chance a Dubbya speech writer, are you? 8;)

-- Larry





From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 19:11:29 2001
From: "Laura Granato" <lgranato@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>, "Larry Larson" <llarson@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Fw: Biker Bash Cancer Fundraiser
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:12:46 -0400


Although I won't be in town this day, if I were
> >here, I would be.
>
>
> Not by any chance a Dubbya speech writer, are you? 8;)
>
> -- Larry
>
Right now I really wish I were...I, too, am riding the jobless
train...anyone needing any freelance copyediting or writing...feel free to
contact me!! :-)

Laura


From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 19:37:45 2001
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 16:37:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Adam Reinhardt <ajreinhardt@XXXXXX>
Subject: Hawk in Distress
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX


  I saw a Honda Hawk with an electrical problem this
afternoon on Beach Drive.  Any chance it was a list
member?  I would have stayed chatted longer (I was on
the red/white/blue CBR), but that would have entailed
continuing to block all southbound traffic.

  I must admit I was surprised to see the Hawk with
almost the same exact problem I had experienced this
morning; specifically rough idling and a wandering
tach.  Pulling a spider's nest out from under the
rubber covers which house the wires from the battery
to the starter relay switch solved my problem.

  How did you make out?


Adam Reinhardt
89 CBR

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From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 20:07:48 2001
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 17:07:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Gimer <t_gimer@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Team Jordan Racing in the news!
To: Sean Jordan <sean.jordan@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX

--- Sean Jordan <sean.jordan@XXXXXX> wrote:
> >death-defying?
>
> Road-racing = death-defying. Fellow racers, back me up on
> this. WSDYMOFO Rides are not death-defying. Bring your
> 996 out to the track sometime, pretty boy. Me and my 400
> will show you "death-defying".

how many people died last year at summit or other local
tracks?  a closed-course environment with a high level of
body protection just doesn't qualify as death-defying to
me.  and i don't think our rides are either....i wouldn't
want to be a part of a weekly "death-defying" activity.

you want "death-defying"?  take up cliff diving or some
other insane sport.


> >  whatever.
>
>      whatever times infinity. Ha! I win. Sucker.
>
> >
> >i wish the yanker would stop yanking.
>
> What's got you so convinced that I'm the yanker anyways?
> I've never had to hide behind a fabricated persona to
> voice my opinions. I think it's Randy Moran. Go read his
> past posts; he's mister enlightened verbosity man.

YOU are Dick E. Anker.  actually, most people knew that one
before i did, judging by the responses i got after my last
post on this topic.


> This was just a fun way to tell everyone that it's
> another race-weekend at Summit point, and that they
> should come out to drink beer and spectate, and NOT spend

> that money on pizza and a movie with their loved-one.

fine.  i apparently lost that message buried somewhere in
the bullshit.  but, i certainly did not miss your attempt
to display your balls to me and the list.  i have no
interest in getting out on the racetrack with some young
punk with an attitude.  i wonder if anyone here
does....hmmmm





=====
tg

check out http://www.murphygimer.com

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From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 20:17:59 2001
From: RacerGirl435@XXXXXX
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:17:45 EDT
Subject: Re: Team Jordan Racing in the news!
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

In a message dated 6/6/01 7:05:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Laura Granato
writes:

<< Team Jordan Racing in the news!according to Jordan, he will have snacks =
for everyone. Can we put in requests? ;-)
Laura>>

Hey Laura!

You and Roach are then ones with the Aprilia RS250's!  Why don't YOU guys buy
beer and snacks for everybody eh!?  hehe

Non-motorcycle having wanna be racing an Aprilia RS250,
Jess

From dc-cycles-request Wed Jun  6 20:42:07 2001
From: "Dave Yates" <sdave@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: RE: Team Jordan Racing in the news!
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:44:19 -0400

Gimer contributed:
--- Sean Jordan <sean.jordan@XXXXXX> wrote:
> >death-defying?
>
> Road-racing = death-defying. Fellow racers, back me up on
> this. WSDYMOFO Rides are not death-defying. Bring your
> 996 out to the track sometime, pretty boy. Me and my 400
> will show you "death-defying".

how many people died last year at summit or other local
tracks?  a closed-course environment with a high level of
body protection just doesn't qualify as death-defying to
me.  and i don't think our rides are either....i wouldn't
want to be a part of a weekly "death-defying" activity.

		Now  THIS is more like it.  A little flavor for the list.  A good ol'
fashioned flame fest, in the tradition of Squeakers :)


you want "death-defying"?  take up cliff diving or some
other insane sport.

		Yeah.  Like fessing up to the porn number charges on the Amex bill to
the wife...



> >  whatever.
>
>      whatever times infinity. Ha! I win. Sucker.
>
> >
> >i wish the yanker would stop yanking.
>
> What's got you so convinced that I'm the yanker anyways?
> I've never had to hide behind a fabricated persona to
> voice my opinions. I think it's Randy Moran. Go read his
> past posts; he's mister enlightened verbosity man.

YOU are Dick E. Anker.  actually, most people knew that one
before i did, judging by the responses i got after my last
post on this topic.


		Damn.  I'd almost forgotten Yanker...



> This was just a fun way to tell everyone that it's
> another race-weekend at Summit point, and that they
> should come out to drink beer and spectate, and NOT spend

> that money on pizza and a movie with their loved-one.

fine.  i apparently lost that message buried somewhere in
the bullshit.  but, i certainly did not miss your attempt
to display your balls to me and the list.  i have no
interest in getting out on the racetrack with some young
punk with an attitude.  i wonder if anyone here
does....hmmmm



		Tom, use your... uh... well...  experience, yeah, experience & skill.
Go out & watch, help in the pits...  a little clear nail polish on the
plug leads, loosen the kill switch, super glue on the leather zippers,
but whatever you do, DON"T put the fiberglass insulation dust in his
leathers...

<the above is purely for entertainment purposes>



Dave Yates




From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun  7 02:21:15 2001
From: "James Reazor" <JReazor@XXXXXX>
To: "DC Cycles List" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: East Coast BBG
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 01:46:43 -0400

I have 2 questions. What does BBG stand for and, since there is no date
listed, will it be scheduled over a weekend. I'm all for shushing
self-proclaimed big dawgs regardless of where they're from, I just don't
want to burn too much vacation time to do it.

-James
'00 SV650

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Horstman" <the.horkster@XXXXXX>
To: "DC Cycles List" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:45 AM
Subject: East Coast BBG


> Just trying to guage the interest in an East Coast BBG
> group record attempt in order to shush the self-proclaimed
> big dawgs out west.  Mid July, start in Raleigh, NC, down
> to Fort Lauderdale, across Alligator Alley, end up in Lower
> Alabama, that'd leave a near-1000 mile day to get back home.
>
> We need around 40 riders to break the record.  Anyone
> here interested?  I'm doing it.
>
> Horkster
>
> --
> Mandatory second line (CM tm)
>
> Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX  AWSHIDT #322 - 27 of 99 done.
> Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth
>
> '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer
> '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi
> '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress



From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun  7 06:52:49 2001
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 03:52:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Louis F. Caplan" <nighthawk700@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: East Coast BBG
To: James Reazor <JReazor@XXXXXX>, DC Cycles List <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>

--- James Reazor <JReazor@XXXXXX> wrote:
> I have 2 questions. What does BBG stand for and, since there is no date
> listed, will it be scheduled over a weekend. I'm all for shushing
> self-proclaimed big dawgs regardless of where they're from, I just don't
> want to burn too much vacation time to do it.

BBG = Bun Burner Gold = minimum 1,500 miles in 24 hrs.  The folks out west did
1,609 miles in under 24 hrs.

You can find more information on the Iron Butt pages:
(http://www.ironbutt.com)

Dale, keep this one rule in mind though, when recruiting people:  The Bun
Burner GOLD is a member of the Iron Butt Association's Extreme Ride series.
Before you can apply for any ride referenced by these rules, you must be a
successful finisher of either the SaddleSore 1000, SaddleSore 2000, 50cc Quest,
Alberta 2000, Capitol 1000, ... (*snip* or other recognized 24 hr rallies,
deleted long example list)  See: http://www.ironbutt.com/intro/bb/bbg.html



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From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun  7 08:09:18 2001
From: "Todd Peer" <toddbpeer@XXXXXX>
To: "AA DC Cycles" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: re: Check out todd's article
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:07:31 -0400

From: "Laura Granato" <lgranato@XXXXXX>
To: <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Check out todd's article
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:31:24 -0400

after many, many months of waiting...I wanted to announce that Todd's
article is up on the DC Cycles site in the articles section.  My public
apology goes out to Todd for it taking so long!!!

Laura
-----------------------------------------------------------
Accepted and thanks!  I just figured you had so many pots on the fire it
just got overlooked.

Todd (Springfield)




From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun  7 08:14:44 2001
From: "Todd Peer" <toddbpeer@XXXXXX>
To: "AA DC Cycles" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Team Jordan Racing in the news!
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:12:59 -0400

Sean Jordan wrote (Following Tom Gimer):
>
>death-defying?

Road-racing = death-defying. Fellow racers, back me up on this.
WSDYMOFO Rides are not death-defying.

----> They are when you attend Sean! ;-)
>
>i wish the yanker would stop yanking.

What's got you so convinced that I'm the yanker anyways? I've never
had to hide behind a fabricated persona to voice my opinions. I think
it's Randy Moran. Go read his past posts; he's mister enlightened
verbosity man.

----> There has been some speculation that it was you Sean except that the
----> yanker rides a Gixer on the Street.  Does Randy ride a GSXR on the
----> street?

This was just a fun way to tell everyone that it's another
race-weekend at Summit point, and that they should come out to drink
beer and spectate, and NOT spend that money on pizza and a movie with
their loved-one.

----> This will be another weekend out of town for me.  Good luck to
----> ALL racers and hope there is no RAIN!!!

---->     Todd (Springfield, VA)


From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun  7 08:23:32 2001
From: "Matthew Patton" <pattonme@XXXXXX>
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 07:23:27 -0500
Subject: another MAW free shipping day

Since I'm still stuck on digest mode (hello, moderator!!) I can't tell if it's already been posted or not. One interesting difference this time around. Tires incur shipping charges. I guess they got massively burnt by that one last round. Pity, I thought that was the best part. Should have ordered more...
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From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun  7 08:56:49 2001
From: MJordan666@XXXXXX
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:56:31 EDT
Subject: Snacks - was: Team Jordan Racing in the news!
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX


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>Eh...so there will be snacks huh ?

Team Jordan progenitor here, knowing my elder son, I would get him to
precisely define the word "snack" prior to making dinner plans.

Michael J.







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From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun  7 09:01:35 2001
From: MJordan666@XXXXXX
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:01:24 EDT
Subject: Re: East Coast BBG
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX


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Dale, this could be interesting - when?

Michael J.


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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>Dale, this could be interesting - when?
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From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun  7 09:22:39 2001
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 09:16:42 -0400
From: "William J. Huson" <bhuson@XXXXXX>
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: 4-sale

Within a week or so I'll be putting two motorcycles up for sale, part of
my late friend's estate.  One is Kawasaki Eliminator 600, number two a
Yamaha Virago 750 V-Twin.  Year and milage to be determined this coming
week

If anyone is interested in cages, got them too.  A 2001 Prowler for
those with a loose 40+K in their jeans - 2400 miles.  A `90 something
Olds 4-door sedan, lo-milage special - 44K, and a vintage `73 (?)
Cadilac convertable, fresh rebuild on the engine, body is rough.

If interested contact me off list - bhuson@XXXXXX, or call (703)
256-3115 even.  Official details as soon as I examine same and obtain
titles.

Bill


From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun  7 10:16:35 2001
From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:16:21 EDT
Subject: Re: Footpeg Riding Style
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX

In a message dated 6/6/2001 7:10:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
t_gimer@XXXXXX writes:

> --- Suzookus Maximus <suzookusmaximus@XXXXXX> wrote:
>  > Wanted to get some opinions from you all about where
>  > you put your feet on the pegs. :)


When racing cross country (Enduro) we always rode  standing on the balls of
our feet, that way when you hit a stump (Or another rider) it knocked your
foot off the peg instead of folding it under and breaking it.


John Walters (Long John)
PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
Up near DC

Honda ST1100X Pan European
    (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.)
BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles
Honda 1976 CR250M  Motowhat racer

From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun  7 10:34:54 2001
From: "Jon Strang" <jmstrang@XXXXXX>
To: <PenguinBiker@XXXXXX>, <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: RE: Footpeg Riding Style
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:34:57 -0400
X-SLUIDL: 0F9FEF21-5B4311D5-8E080060-08C770E5

I learned that lesson the hard way.

--jon w/ nine toes

-----Original Message-----
From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX [mailto:PenguinBiker@XXXXXX]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:16 AM
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Re: Footpeg Riding Style


In a message dated 6/6/2001 7:10:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
t_gimer@XXXXXX writes:

> --- Suzookus Maximus <suzookusmaximus@XXXXXX> wrote:
>  > Wanted to get some opinions from you all about where
>  > you put your feet on the pegs. :)


When racing cross country (Enduro) we always rode  standing on the balls of
our feet, that way when you hit a stump (Or another rider) it knocked your
foot off the peg instead of folding it under and breaking it.


John Walters (Long John)
PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
Up near DC

Honda ST1100X Pan European
    (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.)
BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles
Honda 1976 CR250M  Motowhat racer


From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun  7 11:07:04 2001
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:59:21 -0400
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
From: Sean Jordan <sean.jordan@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: Team Jordan Racing in the news!

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>how many people died last year at summit or other local
>tracks?

More than a handful. Probably 1.9 metric handfuls.

>  a closed-course environment with a high level of
>body protection just doesn't qualify as death-defying to
>me.

There are varying levels of death-defiance. Cliff diving has a much
higher risk of death, and therefore a higher level of defiance.
(Unless you're suicidal.) I wouldn't say that the sport is "not"
death-defying.

>   and i don't think our rides are either....

That's what I said. Didn't I say they're rides weren't death defying?
Am I missing something here? Are you mocking me? Do you want to
fight!?? Huh? HUNH?! YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING LAWYER BOY.....Oh,
what's that? You're not trying to start something? Oh, ok. You're no
fun.

>i wouldn't
>want to be a part of a weekly "death-defying" activity.

That's ok. Neither would I. That's why I only race once or twice a
month at most.

>
>you want "death-defying"?  take up cliff diving or some
>other insane sport.

See, to participate in an "insane sport", you need to be insane. See,
no sport is inherently insane. The sport is defined by the people who
participate in it.....uh...which would make roadracing an insane
sport. Ok, bad argument. Let me try this again.....

>  > >i wish the yanker would stop yanking.
>>
>>  What's got you so convinced that I'm the yanker anyways?
>>  I've never had to hide behind a fabricated persona to
>>  voice my opinions. I think it's Randy Moran. Go read his
>>  past posts; he's mister enlightened verbosity man.
>
>YOU are Dick E. Anker.  actually, most people knew that one
>before i did, judging by the responses i got after my last
>post on this topic.

First person to conclusively prove that I am Mr. Yanker gets an
autographed picture of Team Jordan Racing. (Or a reasonable facsimile
thereof. Offer void in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada.)

>  > This was just a fun way to tell everyone that it's
>>  another race-weekend at Summit point, and that they
>  > should come out to drink beer and spectate, and NOT spend
>>  that money on pizza and a movie with their loved-one.
>
>fine.  i apparently lost that message buried somewhere in
>the bullshit.

Don't worry, nobody else did. I won't hold your lack of reading
comprehension against you. :P

>but, i certainly did not miss your attempt
>to display your balls to me and the list.

1. If I wanted to "display" my balls to everyone on the list, I would
upload a .jpg file to my web-hosting service and post a URL. However,
I'm very shy when it comes to displaying my balls, so don't nobody
hold there breath.

2. Tom, here's your phrase of the day.

tongue-in-cheek
adj.

a. Meant or expressed ironically or facetiously.
b. Cleverly amusing in tone; "a bantering tone"; "facetious remarks";
"tongue-in-cheek advice" [syn: bantering, facetious] adv 1: in a
bantering fashion; "he spoke to her banteringly" [syn: banteringly]
2: not seriously; "I meant it facetiously" [syn: facetiously,
jokingly]

>i have no
>interest in getting out on the racetrack with some young
>punk with an attitude.

Hey, I am not a punk! I hate the Sex Pistols!

>   i wonder if anyone here
>does....hmmmm

Obivously Laura and Roach do, or they wouldn't haul my
attitude-laden, ball displaying, punk ass around or let me pit with
them. (Thanks again, guys!)....Randy Moran and Danny Thompson don't
seem to mind either. (Hope you feel better soon Danny!) I think
you're jealous that no one wants to ride on the track with YOU, Tom.
But that's ok. Not everyone can be as cool as me. Don't sweat it.

Egads, man, lighten up!  Although if I had to ride a 996 for a
streetbike, I'm sure I'd end up a hardass too.

Tee-hee.



--
"For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the
skillful defiance of it."

-Ernest Becker (1924-1974)

Sean Jordan
Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing
'93 Honda CBR1000F (Street)
'90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race)
WERA #230 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038
http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html

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<blockquote type="cite" cite>how many people died last year at summit
or other local<br>
tracks?</blockquote>
<div><br>
More than a handful. Probably 1.9 metric handfuls.<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>&nbsp;a closed-course environment with a
high level of<br>
body protection just doesn't qualify as death-defying to<br>
me.</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>There are varying levels of death-defiance. Cliff diving has a
much higher risk of death, and therefore a higher level of defiance.
(Unless you're suicidal.) I wouldn't say that the sport is
&quot;not&quot; death-defying.</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>&nbsp; and i don't think our rides are
either....</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>That's what I said. Didn't I say they're rides weren't death
defying? Am I missing something here? Are you mocking me? Do you want
to fight!?? Huh? HUNH?! YOU TRYING TO START SOMETHING LAWYER
BOY.....Oh, what's that? You're not trying to start something? Oh,
ok. You're no fun.</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>i wouldn't</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>want to be a part of a weekly
&quot;death-defying&quot; activity.</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>That's ok. Neither would I. That's why I only race once or twice
a month at most.</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><br>
you want &quot;death-defying&quot;?&nbsp; take up cliff diving or
some<br>
other insane sport.</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>See, to participate in an &quot;insane sport&quot;, you need to
be insane. See, no sport is inherently insane. The sport is defined
by the people who participate in it.....uh...which would make
roadracing an insane sport. Ok, bad argument. Let me try this
again.....</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>&gt; &gt;i wish the yanker would stop
yanking.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; What's got you so convinced that I'm the yanker anyways?<br>
&gt; I've never had to hide behind a fabricated persona to<br>
&gt; voice my opinions. I think it's Randy Moran. Go read his<br>
&gt; past posts; he's mister enlightened verbosity man.<br>
<br>
YOU are Dick E. Anker.&nbsp; actually, most people knew that one<br>
before i did, judging by the responses i got after my last<br>
post on this topic.</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>First person to conclusively prove that I am Mr. Yanker gets an
autographed picture of Team Jordan Racing. (Or a reasonable facsimile
thereof. Offer void in Hawaii, Alaska, and Canada.)</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>&gt; This was just a fun way to tell
everyone that it's<br>
&gt; another race-weekend at Summit point, and that they</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>&gt; should come out to drink beer and
spectate, and NOT spend<br>
&gt; that money on pizza and a movie with their loved-one.<br>
<br>
fine.&nbsp; i apparently lost that message buried somewhere in<br>
the bullshit. </blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>Don't worry, nobody else did. I won't hold your lack of reading
comprehension against you. :P</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>but, i certainly did not miss your
attempt</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>to display your balls to me and the
list. </blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>1. If I wanted to &quot;display&quot; my balls to everyone on
the list, I would upload a .jpg file to my web-hosting service and
post a URL. However, I'm very shy when it comes to displaying my
balls, so don't nobody hold there breath.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>2. Tom, here's your phrase of the day.</div>
<div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000">tongue-in-cheek</font></div>
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<div><font color="#000000">a. Meant or expressed ironically or
facetiously.</font></div>
<div><font color="#000000">b. Cleverly amusing in tone; &quot;a
bantering tone&quot;; &quot;facetious remarks&quot;;
&quot;tongue-in-cheek advice&quot; [syn:</font><font
color="#0033FF"><u> bantering</u></font><font
color="#000000">,</font><font color="#0033FF"><u>
facetious</u></font><font color="#000000">] adv 1: in a bantering
fashion; &quot;he spoke to her banteringly&quot; [syn:</font><font
color="#0033FF"><u> banteringly</u></font><font color="#000000">] 2:
not seriously; &quot;I meant it facetiously&quot; [syn:</font><font
color="#0033FF"><u> facetiously</u></font><font
color="#000000">,</font><font color="#0033FF"><u>
jokingly</u></font><font color="#000000">]</font></div>
<div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>i have no</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>interest in getting out on the racetrack
with some young</blockquote>
<blockquot