From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 01:09:09 2000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 01:12:38 -0400 Subject: Re: A Question for the racers... From: David Cross To: > Along the same lines, some say it's not necessary to trail > the brake and should only be used by more experienced riders after some > practice. Any thoughts? Note: alot of Guzzi models have linked brakes, so > that complicates the situation some I think. TIA. Well I am definetly not the fastest racer but here is what I do: On my FZR400 I do some trail breaking with the front in corners with a lot of hard breaking like turns 1 and 5 at Summit because I do a lot of passing under hard breaking there and I find I am still holding the break a little as I start to turn in. This may take a small toll on the amount of speed I carry through those turns but it usually lets me pass riders before those turns and carry enough speed to make the pass stick. I dont use my rear break at all at the track but a more talented racer like Collin will use the rear brake before a turn to settle the suspension and then "back it into the turn". Im gonna give that a try one of these days, but I have so many other skills to master. I cant think of any reason to be trail breaking on the street. Too much to lose and nothing to gain. At least on the track you can get one of those cool $5.00 trophies that we spend so much money trying to collect. Dave Cross CCS & WERA #416 FZR400 (saving for an SV650) From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 09:22:45 2000 X-Sender: tech3047@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 09:20:28 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "wes 8-)#" Subject: Re: speeding cops (was RE: digest) That's what it takes though, to get a cop for speeding or any other traffic infraction. It seems like somebody has to die before "they" do anything about "it" (insert appropriate id's for "they" and "it" based on your personal experience). --wes At 01:22 31-05-00, BryanRoach@XXXXXX wrote: >Of course, the cop killed one innocent motorist and injured two others... but >they did get him for reckless driving... From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 10:00:49 2000 From: Mark Kitchell To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Road Atlanta Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:54:51 -0400 Is anyone going to the AMA Superbike Races this weekend? I am flying out tonight, so let me know and we can maybe meet. This is my first big race. Any advice on where to watch, what to do, etc? mark From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 10:24:25 2000 X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:29:18 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Lisa Goddard Subject: Mem. Day weekend Well Folks, Sorry to hear I missed an activity filled weekend here in DC. Although I must admit I am not sorry I missed the Memorial Day ride. I did, however, head up to Pocono Raceway for a fun filled track day with Reduc Sportbike association. There were a total of about 30 women in the group and a wide variety of riding skills. The range of bikes was just as impressive. Everything from women who rode out for the day on Hawks from NYC to Ducatis, lots of Ducatis. There were a few women who were kicking my butt all over the track on SV 650's with luggage racks. Other bikes worthy of mention were the little Aprilla's (sp?) and an VFR 400. There was also one woman there who was some racing rookie of the year who was passing everyone on a dirt bike. The Reduc group was a nice friendly crowd, it didn't hurt that they supplied breakfast, lunch and dinner for anyone present. We had some class time and track time while split in to three skill groups. There were plenty of instructors available. One came right over to me in the afternoon when I managed to lock up both wheels and skid for what felt like about 10 feet. (for all I know I really skidded for 10 inches, it felt like alot to me.) He showed me another turn on the track that I had been taking wrong and then had me go in front of him to watch for other mistakes. I gotta lay off that rear brake. I saw huge improvement in my riding. I am no longer dragging my pegs but am now focusing on getting my butt off the seat and getting a knee down. Some of the turns felt like my knee was so close to the pavement but I bet I have got at least a foot to go! I have lots of pics but I will refrain from sending them in to the list. Pocono Raceway is really nice but I think I like the proximity of Summit. '95 VFR Lisa From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 10:36:58 2000 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:37:11 -0400 Subject: Re: tickets From: "Marcy" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX well, what did the COP say you were doing wrong? he must have said something ... "you all know how fast you were going?" (uhhh cause _I_ don't) heh heh or "single file!!!" anything? anything at all? I just find hard it hard to believe that he ticketed 9 (10?) people without a word as to the reason other than "reckless driving" (while STOPPED at a light?) ... my apologies if the answer to this was already posted ... digest mode forces you to skim through sometimes ... >>>>>>>> Marcy >>>>>>>> CB-1 400F >>>>>>>> The people in your life are there because you brought them there. What you do with them is up to you. [Remove the "spamblocker" to reply] ---------- >From: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: dc-cycles digest for 05/31/00 >Date: Wed, May 31, 2000, 7:00 PM > > I hope by the time this is all said and done you guys get off scott free with an > apology from this pin-headed jerk of a cop. I just can't wait to hear what the > justification is for this if he had no radar or paced reading. This is clown is > a detriment to the image of the many reasonable LEOs out there. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 10:58:28 2000 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 10:58:12 -0700 From: Dale Horstman X-Accept-Language: en To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: advice needed christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > > Yep that was me that hosted the downtown ride. It came about as a > result of your "comments" that the district was the devil ... :-) And was I wrong? :) > Hopefully that ride changed your mind a bit. It might have, had I actually done it. I blew that one off - big mistake. > Would be happy to do it again, I think I still have the original > ride sheets in my MC drawer at home. That would be cool, if you hold another one, I promise to show up, shut up, and be properly amazed this time. :) Dale -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - His - BugSlayer 1999 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 11:40:27 2000 X-Originating-IP: [204.193.255.42] From: "Doug Allis" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: advice needed Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 08:40:17 PDT >Actually, wasn't it you, Chris, who hosted ride in the >heart of DC itself a couple of years ago? I seem to recall >we got in a bit of a flame war as to "why?", but I'd be >willing to go on that ride now, as some of my big-city shyness >is wearing off... :) > I rode Rock Creek Park's Beach Dr to E/W Highway yesterday during lunch. I forgot what a nice ride that is. I'd be interested in trying other DC inside the beltway adventures.... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 11:45:27 2000 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 08:45:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Draven D'Arc" Subject: DC Ride To: DC Cycles DC RIDE! DC RIDE! DC RIDE! and, oh yeah...DC RIDE! -Corbett '99 BEE-M-dubbaU K12RS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 12:02:08 2000 From: Mark Kitchell To: "'Doug Allis'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: advice needed Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:55:49 -0400 I will be happy to organize an evening ride in July sometime. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug Allis [SMTP:dhallis@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 11:40 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: advice needed > > > >Actually, wasn't it you, Chris, who hosted ride in the > >heart of DC itself a couple of years ago? I seem to recall > >we got in a bit of a flame war as to "why?", but I'd be > >willing to go on that ride now, as some of my big-city shyness > >is wearing off... :) > > > > I rode Rock Creek Park's Beach Dr to E/W Highway yesterday during lunch. I > > forgot what a nice ride that is. I'd be interested in trying other DC > inside the beltway adventures.... > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 12:11:09 2000 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 12:10:50 -0700 From: Dale Horstman X-Accept-Language: en To: Mark Kitchell CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: advice needed Mark Kitchell wrote: > > I will be happy to organize an evening ride in July sometime. > > Mark Any time except the July 19th-23rd timeframe is good for me (I don't want to miss the COG National Rally that weekend! :) Dale - Advance Planners R Us -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - His - BugSlayer 1999 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 12:13:57 2000 From: MJordan666@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:13:44 EDT Subject: Re: tickets To: alarix_nospam_@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX >well, what did the COP say you were doing wrong? he >must have said something When it was my turn in the hot seat, I asked him point-blank. All he said was "you know what you did" and handed me the ticket Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 12:24:57 2000 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 12:24:40 -0700 From: Dale Horstman X-Accept-Language: en To: MJordan666@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tickets MJordan666@XXXXXX wrote: > > >well, what did the COP say you were doing wrong? he >must have said something > > When it was my turn in the hot seat, I asked him point-blank. All he said was "you know what you did" and handed me the ticket > > Michael J. I sincerely wish you all the best of luck in beating this bastard in court. Talk about unprofessional conduct. Horkster -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - His - BugSlayer 1999 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 12:42:28 2000 From: "Greg" To: Subject: Clutch cable Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:30:32 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 To all: My clutch cable popped last night and I was wondering first, is it difficult to replace? And second, how would I go about doing it? BTW the bike is an 87 EX 500. Any help would be greatly appreciated. John From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 12:55:52 2000 X-Originating-IP: [204.193.255.42] From: "Doug Allis" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tickets Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 09:55:41 PDT Well at least you know that you're dealing with a real bad ... You're going to have to see the cop's notes to see what he thought you did. Before you go to trial you get the opportunity to review them. Make sure your lawyer asks for this stuff.... Its called "discovery" and your entitled to see it all. Mine had the weather, the volume of traffic, wheither I was weaving around traffic, my general attitude, and what I said (not much!). Sometimes it takes a letter from a lawyer to shake it all loose. My trial was actually delayed because the cop didn't get the stuff to my lawyer within some time limit before the trial. When he got them my lawyer said that the notes killed any hopes of a reckless conviction. The cop didn't even argue about it. I got "improper driving" and a small fine. I was doing 77 mph in a 55 on I-395. Light traffic all going about the same speed. He was in an umarked car and had his choice of me or the cars around me. He got me. He told me exactly what I was doing and that he got me on radar and paced us all for over a mile. Looking back at it, I don't think he ever thought I'd get convicted of reckless. >When it was my turn in the hot seat, I asked him point-blank. All he said >was "you know what you did" and handed me the ticket > >Michael J. > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 14:56:51 2000 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 14:56:54 -0400 From: Larry Meyer X-Accept-Language: en,pdf To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tickets The cop asked me if the address on my license was right and asked me to confirm my eye color. Nothing more. Larry From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 15:07:51 2000 From: "Weaver, Chris_(MD)" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Cop Motivation? Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 14:59:25 -0400 I don't know if this applies in this area or to the cop in question, but here's a possible reason the cop stopped everyone and gave out tickets for no apparent reason: Quotas. If the cop does have a ticket quota to fill, you all were highly desirable subjects. You were already stopped, it was the end of the month and he could get multiple (9 or 10!) tickets written all at once. The fact that he didn't tell you WHY you were being cited for reckless tells me he might not care if you get off or not - he was just interested in filling his quota. I don't know for sure, obviously, but it seems plausible. I'm always a little more cautious near the end (and the beginning in case of anal-retentive cops) of each month for this reason. Chris Weaver '98 VTR From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 15:12:38 2000 X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 15:12:14 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Cop Motivation? At 02:59 PM 6/1/00 , Weaver, Chris_(MD) wrote: >I don't know for sure, obviously, but it seems plausible. I'm always a >little more cautious near the end (and the beginning in case of >anal-retentive cops) of each month for this reason. Don't forget - this was Memorial Day. A lot of cops on the road looking for fodder. Getting a ticket w/o explanation - isn't that like taxation w/o representation? Need some help dumping tea? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 15:17:21 2000 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:17:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Clutch cable To: Greg , dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- Greg wrote: > To all: My clutch cable popped last night and I was > wondering first, is it > difficult to replace? And second, how would I go > about doing it? BTW the > bike is an 87 EX 500. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. I'm not a real motorcycle mechanic, I just play the part whenever the lack of money indicates I should. It isn't that hard to do. The toughest part is getting the new cable snaked through the front of the bike. I try to duct tape the new cable to the old one before I pull it out so it follows the old one through. It usually gets caught on something and I have to pull the whole bike apart anyway, but once in a while it works. Connecting the cable is relatively easy. The large adjustment is done down at the clutch end, fine/final adjustment is done at the clutch lever. The adjustment nuts will have a slot that you line up to remove or replace the cable. Adjust it so the end of the lever has about 3/4" of play before it pulls hard on the cable. If it slips at high RPM there isn't enough play, if you can't get the bike into gear there's too much play, the right amount is somewhere in between those two extremes (it's also in the maintenance book) Leon. What's the right way Brian? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 15:25:08 2000 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:24:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Reply-To: dysart@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cop Motivation? To: "Weaver, Chris_\(MD\)" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" And this is the exact reason that when I ride in groups I let people know that if the cop is behind me pulling me over TO NOT STOP and vice versa!!! Why should everyone get tickets? If everyone goes a differnet direction at most he can grab two or three and since he's already pulled someone else over and not pursuing you I don't think they can convict you of evading if they catch you... Obviously you can do what you want but if I am in front of any of you guys and a cop pulls you over don't expect me to stop. I'll catch you down the road somewhere. Glenn --- "Weaver, Chris_(MD)" wrote: > I don't know if this applies in this area or to the > cop in question, but > here's a possible reason the cop stopped everyone > and gave out tickets for > no apparent reason: Quotas. If the cop does have a > ticket quota to fill, you > all were highly desirable subjects. You were already > stopped, it was the end > of the month and he could get multiple (9 or 10!) > tickets written all at > once. The fact that he didn't tell you WHY you were > being cited for reckless > tells me he might not care if you get off or not - > he was just interested in > filling his quota. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 15:34:45 2000 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:34:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Reply-To: dysart@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cop Motivation? To: "Weaver, Chris_\(MD\)" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Oh and I should have mentioned I've done this three times and the people that I have left behind never got tickets, the cop was more interested in "who's your buddy" and trying to come find me. Needless to say I was long gone. Of course the one time it happened to me I got a ticket, my buddy got away. Glenn --- Glenn Dysart wrote: > And this is the exact reason that when I ride in > groups I let people know that if the cop is behind > me > pulling me over TO NOT STOP and vice versa!!! Why > should everyone get tickets? If everyone goes a > differnet direction at most he can grab two or three > and since he's already pulled someone else over and > not pursuing you I don't think they can convict you > of > evading if they catch you... Obviously you can do > what you want but if I am in front of any of you > guys > and a cop pulls you over don't expect me to stop. > I'll catch you down the road somewhere. > > Glenn > > > --- "Weaver, Chris_(MD)" > wrote: > > I don't know if this applies in this area or to > the > > cop in question, but > > here's a possible reason the cop stopped everyone > > and gave out tickets for > > no apparent reason: Quotas. If the cop does have a > > ticket quota to fill, you > > all were highly desirable subjects. You were > already > > stopped, it was the end > > of the month and he could get multiple (9 or 10!) > > tickets written all at > > once. The fact that he didn't tell you WHY you > were > > being cited for reckless > > tells me he might not care if you get off or not - > > he was just interested in > > filling his quota. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! > Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 15:40:20 2000 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 15:40:03 -0700 From: Dale Horstman X-Accept-Language: en To: dysart@XXXXXX CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Cop Motivation? Glenn Dysart wrote: > > And this is the exact reason that when I ride in > groups I let people know that if the cop is behind me > pulling me over TO NOT STOP and vice versa!!! Why > should everyone get tickets? I heard that this happened on a Concours group ride one time (I wasn't there). One guy (forever after known as Tony "The Ticket") was at the tail end of a group of Connies when Mr. Police guy whips up behind them all, lights-a-flashing. Tony pulls over, everyone else keeps going. The rest of the gang stops out of sight a ways up the road, and when Tony arrives, looking glum after getting a ticket to the policeman's ball, he was amazed at how all the other Connie riders whipped out their wallets and started handing him money. After all, he took one for the group. Now I don't know if he turned a profit (doubtful, considering his insurance may have jumped) but I'm sure it took the sting out of the encounter for ol Tony the Ticket. :) Sounds like a good new procedure to adopt on our DC cycles rides. Horkster -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - His - BugSlayer 1999 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 16:37:36 2000 From: "Wood, Sally" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Thanks Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 16:36:43 -0400 Hi Laura, I have a '98 GS500E, and have been riding for only a little over a year. I'm always looking for other girls to ride with. Not that I wouldn't like to ride with you guys, it's just that for now I'm pretty conservative and think you may get bored waiting for me to catch up. Anyway Laura, if you're interested in going out some time, e-mail me. I live in Fairfax. Take care! Sally X-Sent: 30 May 2000 23:21:00 GMT From: "Laura Granato" To: Subject: Thanks Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 19:26:59 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01BFCA6D.062383A0 Thanks to everyone who gave me great advice regarding whether I should = make the Memorial Day Ride or not. As you know, I didn't make it. As a = beginner rider, I decided the weather wasn't primo for my debut! But = just wanted to say thanks to everyone who introduced themselves and gave = me great advice. I can't wait to meet you all. Good luck with the = whole ticket fiasco! I hate to see b.s. stuff like that happen. =20 Laura Granato '99 Suzuki GS500 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 18:35:13 2000 From: "David Weaver" To: "Wood, Sally" Cc: Subject: Re: Thanks Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 18:25:43 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Hey Sally! It's Dave, your neighbor on the EX-500. Good to know you found the DC Cycles list... these folks are great to ride with and almost always have something to participate in during the week/weekend. One thing that I've always liked is that most rides I've been on have been split into two groups, one paced a little slower than the other. It also seems that the slower group tends to attract more riders too. Another site to check out is http://members.aol.com/AWheat/nova_mgr.html . This group usually has fun rides through the area, as well as participating in poker runs (no knowledge of poker required, good thing for me!). Anyway, welcome to the list! Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wood, Sally" To: Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 4:36 PM Subject: Thanks > Hi Laura, > > I have a '98 GS500E, and have been riding for only a little over a year. > I'm always looking for other girls to ride with. Not that I wouldn't like > to ride with you guys, it's just that for now I'm pretty conservative and > think you may get bored waiting for me to catch up. Anyway Laura, if you're > interested in going out some time, e-mail me. I live in Fairfax. Take > care! > > Sally > > > > > X-Sent: 30 May 2000 23:21:00 GMT > From: "Laura Granato" > To: > Subject: Thanks > Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 19:26:59 -0400 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01BFCA6D.062383A0 > > Thanks to everyone who gave me great advice regarding whether I should = > make the Memorial Day Ride or not. As you know, I didn't make it. As a = > beginner rider, I decided the weather wasn't primo for my debut! But = > just wanted to say thanks to everyone who introduced themselves and gave = > me great advice. I can't wait to meet you all. Good luck with the = > whole ticket fiasco! I hate to see b.s. stuff like that happen. =20 > > Laura Granato > '99 Suzuki GS500 > From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 18:47:49 2000 X-Sent: 1 Jun 2000 22:47:33 GMT Reply-To: From: "Jim Maier" To: Subject: Any cruiser riders up for a take-it-easy ride on Saturday? Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 18:47:36 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I am "leading" a ride with 1 or 2 other cruiser buddies on Saturday. We will be heading out early Saturday, to the west of the DC area for a good part of the day (hope to be back late-afternoon). Thinking about hitting part of skyline drive, perhaps lunching in Culpepper, and tooling around on some of the scenic byways. Any cruiser riders or others interested in a *LEISURELY* ride (not planning on pushing the limits of the law, physics, our bikes OR our bodies), please send me an e-mail at jmaier@XXXXXX . Will figure out the details sometime in next 24 hours. -Jim Maier 1997 Suzuki Intruder 1400, Tag: HDENVY jmaier@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 19:17:05 2000 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 19:21:36 -0700 From: Chuck Pena X-Accept-Language: en To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Thanks And thanks to Collin and Brian's now infamous Memorial Day ride (wish I had been in town to ride with everyone), we are now dividing rides into two groups: (1) those that get tickets and (2) those that don't! %^) Sorry, guys -- couldn't resist. Skittles David Weaver wrote : > > have something to participate in during the week/weekend. One thing that > I've always liked is that most rides I've been on have been split into two > groups, one paced a little slower than the other. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 19:22:21 2000 From: MJordan666@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 19:22:08 EDT Subject: Re: Thanks To: swood@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 6/1/00 16:39:57 Eastern Daylight Time, swood@XXXXXX writes: > it's just that for now I'm pretty conservative and > think you may get bored waiting for me to catch up Hi Sally - we'd MUCH rather be bored waiting for you to catch up than not to have you catch up at all or go over your head trying to keep up. We've never left a rider behind on purpose ( there have been miscommunications from time to time...) and the idea is for everyone to have a good experience. And you CAN'T be any slower or more conservative than Jeanette was when she was starting out ;-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 19:49:06 2000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 19:52:44 -0400 Subject: Re: A Question for the racers... From: David Cross To: Wow, I really do know the difference between "breaking" and "braking". It was 1:00 AM so I hope you all understand. dave cross > Well I am definetly not the fastest racer but here is what I do: > > On my FZR400 I do some trail breaking with the front in corners with a lot > of hard breaking like turns 1 and 5 at Summit because I do a lot of passing > under hard breaking there and I find I am still holding the break a little > as I start to turn in. This may take a small toll on the amount of speed I > carry through those turns but it usually lets me pass riders before those > turns and carry enough speed to make the pass stick. > > I dont use my rear break at all at the track but a more talented racer like > Collin will use the rear brake before a turn to settle the suspension and > then "back it into the turn". Im gonna give that a try one of these days, > but I have so many other skills to master. > > I cant think of any reason to be trail breaking on the street. Too much to > lose and nothing to gain. At least on the track you can get one of those > cool $5.00 trophies that we spend so much money trying to collect. > > Dave Cross > CCS & WERA #416 > FZR400 (saving for an SV650) > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 20:58:09 2000 X-Really-To: X-Sender: biga@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 20:24:47 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Andrew Culpepper Subject: Re: tickets He had his routine down by the time he got to me. "I'm citing you for General Reckless." ok "You're to appear......" ok and then At 02:56 PM 6/1/00 -0400, you wrote: >The cop asked me if the address on my license was right and asked me to confirm my >eye color. Nothing more. > Wonder what his thing was about the eye color? ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸ J. Andrew Culpepper King George, VA (540) 775-3984 '90 EX500 S-TRA# 100 AMA #304533 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jun 1 21:33:13 2000 X-Really-To: X-Sender: biga@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 21:30:09 -0400 To: From: Andrew Culpepper Subject: Re: Any cruiser riders up for a take-it-easy ride on Saturday? Cc: jmaier@XXXXXX Hi Jim, I can pretend to be a leisure cruiser. I'll be "riding like a nun" for at least two months. My sister and her family will be camping at Big Meadows on Skyline drive Saturday and Sunday so it would be fun for me to visit if we get down that far. The weather's looking perfect. Count me in. Andrew At 06:47 PM 6/1/00 -0400, you wrote: >I am "leading" a ride with 1 or 2 other cruiser buddies on Saturday. We will >be heading out early Saturday, to the west of the DC area for a good part of >the day (hope to be back late-afternoon). Thinking about hitting part of >skyline drive, perhaps lunching in Culpepper, and tooling around on some of >the scenic byways. Any cruiser riders or others interested in a *LEISURELY* >ride (not planning on pushing the limits of the law, physics, our bikes OR >our bodies), please send me an e-mail at jmaier@XXXXXX . Will figure >out the details sometime in next 24 hours. > >-Jim Maier >1997 Suzuki Intruder 1400, Tag: HDENVY >jmaier@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 01:50:13 2000 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 22:50:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Clutch Cable To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX John, Clutch cable on EX 500 is super easy to replace. Buy the new one (get two and keep one under the tail section as an emergency spare) then just start at one end and follow where the old one leads... 5 minute job. Collin From: "Greg" To all: My clutch cable popped last night and I was wondering first, is it difficult to replace? And second, how would I go about doing it? BTW the bike is an 87 EX 500. Any help would be greatly appreciated. John ===== Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Dixie Cycles Bell Helmets, and EBC Brakes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 01:59:52 2000 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 22:59:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I wholeheartedly agree with you on this one Glenn. Unfortunately, we were sitting at the stop sign more or less in neutral. The trooper made it very apparent that he wanted all of us to not move at all. He made a very solid eye contact with me as he came within seein range, and his face said "don't even think about movin". With some of the recent happenings to DC sportbiker types, I figured I wouldn't push my luck (granted they were in PG county in MD) figuring the guy was gonna give us a stiff a$$ chewin since he hadn't actually seen anything...he had other plans.. CT From: Glenn Dysart And this is the exact reason that when I ride in groups I let people know that if the cop is behind me pulling me over TO NOT STOP and vice versa!!! ===== Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Dixie Cycles Bell Helmets, and EBC Brakes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 08:41:41 2000 Reply-To: "The Flowers" From: "The Flowers" To: , , , Subject: Re: [cb-750] hit deer-fell down/ ins follow-up Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:43:07 -0400 Organization: Sunny Flowers Recreation Center and Asylum X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; ; Sent: May 14, 2000 7:06 AM Subject: [cb-750] hit deer-fell down/ ins follow-up > They covered the riding gear under a provion in the policy governing > "personel effects" and by some creative accounting using my home owners > policy. That is probably one advantage of having all my insurance with one > company--cars, bike, and home owners. Or disadvantage. Personally, I don't think your homeowners insurance should have to pay replacing personal items for a vehicle accident. In fact, how would they have handled the claim if you had only the motorcycle insurance with them. If it was a car accident and you had personal items destroyed in an accident, would that be covered under your homeowner's insurance? Just curious, I really don't know. -- Willemina (Honda CB450SC) SWMBO of -- Bill "Bench Dawg" Flowers Clearwater FL '00 Sapphire Blue Triumph Sprint ST "Jewel" From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 08:43:12 2000 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 05:43:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Reply-To: dysart@XXXXXX Subject: Re: To: "Collin T. Fagan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX I understand that your situation was different, that you were not moving. I was just stating that in other instances its a good idea to split up when the man gets on the scene. Glenn --- "Collin T. Fagan" wrote: > I wholeheartedly agree with you on this one Glenn. > Unfortunately, we were sitting at the stop sign more > or less in > neutral. The trooper made it very apparent that he > wanted all of us to > not move at all. He made a very solid eye contact > with me as he came > within seein range, and his face said "don't even > think about movin". > With some of the recent happenings to DC sportbiker > types, I figured I > wouldn't push my luck (granted they were in PG > county in MD) figuring > the guy was gonna give us a stiff a$$ chewin since > he hadn't actually > seen anything...he had other plans.. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 08:58:04 2000 From: "Wood, Sally" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Thanks Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:57:16 -0400 Thanks for all the messages and the reassurance! It's nice to know I wouldn't be totally out of my league on the group rides. I will definitely try to make the next one. Sally -----Original Message----- From: MJordan666@XXXXXX [mailto:MJordan666@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 7:22 PM To: swood@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Thanks In a message dated 6/1/00 16:39:57 Eastern Daylight Time, swood@XXXXXX writes: > it's just that for now I'm pretty conservative and > think you may get bored waiting for me to catch up Hi Sally - we'd MUCH rather be bored waiting for you to catch up than not to have you catch up at all or go over your head trying to keep up. We've never left a rider behind on purpose ( there have been miscommunications from time to time...) and the idea is for everyone to have a good experience. And you CAN'T be any slower or more conservative than Jeanette was when she was starting out ;-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 09:15:21 2000 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:18:26 -0400 From: Zachariah Mully Organization: SmartBrief.com X-Accept-Language: en To: DC Cycles Subject: Recommended backroads in PA Listers- I am finally rid of my bikeless state! I found a KLR for sale up in Waymart, PA (just north of Scraton) and purchased it last weekend. Unfortunately, I went up by myself so I had no choice but to leave it there until I could pick it up. I was expecting my girlfriend to assist me next weekend, and give me a lift up there, but unfortunately, she already had plans (I am sure you all can understand ;). So what I am wondering is since I will have to bus it up there (unless anyone happens to be headed that way, I would be more than happy to help with gas, tolls and company), what would be a fun trip back down to DC? I superslabbed it going up there in the cage, 95N to 476N, but 476N is as straight and boring of a road as I have ever been on. And I certainely don't want to waste a prime opportunity to test out a bike that is supposed to be supreme in the twisties. So anyone on the list that knows that part of PA well enough to recommend some roads? I am not planning on blitzing the trip, in fact I am thinking of making it a two day meander, camping out somewhere. Of course, if that camping out happens to be up the side of a mountain along some fireroads/logging roads, well I suppose I won't be able to resist testing out "the poor man 's GS". I appreciate any recommendations, even partial, for good roads in PA, if you recommend them, I am sure I can find a way to ride them! Thanks! Zack P.S. I will be looking forward to meeting/riding with you all in the coming months! Hooray for two wheeled transport! From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 09:24:46 2000 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:27:52 -0400 From: Zachariah Mully Organization: SmartBrief.com X-Accept-Language: en To: DC Cycles Subject: Insurance.... Listers- Because of my recent purchase, I now have to insure the bike in DC. I was wondering what insurance you DC listers are using. I called Progressive and they said they don't insure in DC and Geico quoted me $719 for a year of full everything (collision, comprehensive, towing, medical). It seems a bit high considering the bike is a 1991 and only 650cc's, and I haven't had a ticket in well over 3 years. Then again I do live in SE DC, but the bike will be garaged. What gives? On another note, when I asked what is covered by the insurance (accesories, etc.) they told me that they won't insure my riding/protective gear... Well, I think that is f***** stupid, being that I am trying to be as safe as possible but the insurance companies won't give me any credit for it. So (and I know that this has come up on the list) I am left with homeowners insurance to cover any destroyed riding gear, correct? And is the AMA (which I am not yet a member, but in my mind they're like the NRA, which I can't support whole heartedly either, because I feel they're picking the wrong battles) doing anything about this... I feel it is a total dis-incentive to all us riders who just want to ride and be protected. I looked at their site, but nogo on the insurance/gear issue. Kinda sucks.. Thanks, Zack From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 09:38:11 2000 From: "Coleman, Perry" To: "DC Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: Sighting: NRA Range yesterday evening Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 06:37:09 -0700 Is the person with the red PC-800 and silver/grey flip-front helmet that I saw at the NRA range yesterday around 6:30pm on the list? If so, send me a note - maybe we can hookup sometime. Perry D. Coleman McAfee Business Unit 301-947-7180 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 09:39:50 2000 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 06:39:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Reply-To: dysart@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Recommended backroads in PA To: Zachariah Mully , DC Cycles Zach, there are a ton of good roads up in that area but since I don't have a map here at work anymore I can't give you any specifics. What I do want to mention though is that if you do find someone to take you back up there to AVOID I-95. IMO the best way to slab it to the Scranton area is to take I-270 to US 15 to PA 581 to I-81 right into Scranton. Not only do you miss ALL the tolls (and traffic) but its quicker and more scenic. Glenn --- Zachariah Mully wrote: > Listers- > I am finally rid of my bikeless state! I found a > KLR for sale up in > Waymart, PA (just north of Scraton) and purchased it > last weekend. > Unfortunately, I went up by myself so I had no > choice but to leave it > there until I could pick it up. I was expecting my > girlfriend to assist > me next weekend, and give me a lift up there, but > unfortunately, she > already had plans (I am sure you all can understand > ;). So what I am > wondering is since I will have to bus it up there > (unless anyone happens > to be headed that way, I would be more than happy to > help with gas, > tolls and company), what would be a fun trip back > down to DC? > I superslabbed it going up there in the cage, 95N > to 476N, but 476N is > as straight and boring of a road as I have ever been > on. And I __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 09:47:33 2000 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 09:51:25 -0400 From: "Paul F. Johnston" To: , Subject: Re: Insurance.... Content-Disposition: inline X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id e52Dlfk11326 HI ZACK: I use Geico Direct and got a GREAT price from them for insuring my bike, but then we insure our cars through Geico's main office and live in Montgomery County. Other mitigating factors may apply as well. Be sure you contact their motorcycle insurance group rather than their main office; the phone is 800-44-CYCLE. When setting premiums, location is extremely important, as is your age and bike model. Apologies if you're already finding that out the hard way...Rider magazine has an insurance plan (through Progressive?), and the AMA may as well. PAUL >>> Zachariah Mully - 06/02/00 9:27 AM >>> Listers- Because of my recent purchase, I now have to insure the bike in DC. I was wondering what insurance you DC listers are using. I called Progressive and they said they don't insure in DC and Geico quoted me $719 for a year of full everything (collision, comprehensive, towing, medical). It seems a bit high considering the bike is a 1991 and only 650cc's, and I haven't had a ticket in well over 3 years. Then again I do live in SE DC, but the bike will be garaged. What gives? On another note, when I asked what is covered by the insurance (accesories, etc.) they told me that they won't insure my riding/protective gear... Well, I think that is f***** stupid, being that I am trying to be as safe as possible but the insurance companies won't give me any credit for it. So (and I know that this has come up on the list) I am left with homeowners insurance to cover any destroyed riding gear, correct? And is the AMA (which I am not yet a member, but in my mind they're like the NRA, which I can't support whole heartedly either, because I feel they're picking the wrong battles) doing anything about this... I feel it is a total dis-incentive to all us riders who just want to ride and be protected. I looked at their site, but nogo on the insurance/gear issue. Kinda sucks.. Thanks, Zack From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 10:24:40 2000 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 07:24:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Reply-To: dysart@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Insurance.... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sorry but I got to throw in my anti-Geico words here. Some of you can appreciate it as you've just gotten tickets. Not only is Geico cheap when it comes to claims by wanting to put NON-OEM parts back on almost new vehicles but they also give LIDAR guns to MD for speed enforcement. Not to mention their stupid forms they send out each year questioning you 1000 things like "Do you use a radar detector" among the many other stupid questions. And they threaten you that if you don't return the form they might cancel you. Again these are just a few of their many short comings. IMO stay away from Geico and get a real insurance company, and contrary to popular belief they are not always the cheapest for insurance. Glenn --- "Paul F. Johnston" wrote: > HI ZACK: > > I use Geico Direct and got a GREAT price from them > for insuring my bike, but then we insure our cars > through Geico's main office and live in Montgomery > County. Other mitigating factors may apply as well. > Be sure you contact their motorcycle insurance group > rather than their main office; the phone is > 800-44-CYCLE. When setting premiums, location is > extremely important, as is your age and bike model. > Apologies if you're already finding that out the > hard way...Rider magazine has an insurance plan > (through Progressive?), and the AMA may as well. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 10:41:36 2000 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 10:41:30 -0400 Subject: Re: tickets From: "Marcy" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX sounds to me like he had a quota! aren't they supposed to tell you why you're being busted? >>>>>>>> Marcy >>>>>>>> CB-1 400F >>>>>>>> The people in your life are there because you brought them there. What you do with them is up to you. [Remove the "_NOSPAM_" to reply] ---------- >From: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: dc-cycles digest for 06/01/00 >Date: Thu, Jun 1, 2000, 7:00 PM > >>well, what did the COP say you were doing wrong? he >must have said something > > When it was my turn in the hot seat, I asked him point-blank. All he said > was "you know what you did" and handed me the ticket > > Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 10:43:25 2000 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 10:43 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dysart@XXXXXX" , "Dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: Insurance.... Also, they go back five years on their investigations versus three years like the majority of insurance companies and they make everything stick. They wanted to charge us nearly $3000 a year for insurance on our Pontiac Formula! This was an increase of almost 400% over the original quote. We decided to go with my original insurance company of which cut the cost well in half. Geico sucks! Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Insurance.... Author: dysart@XXXXXX Date: 06/02/2000 10:24 AM Sorry but I got to throw in my anti-Geico words here. Some of you can appreciate it as you've just gotten tickets. Not only is Geico cheap when it comes to claims by wanting to put NON-OEM parts back on almost new vehicles but they also give LIDAR guns to MD for speed enforcement. Not to mention their stupid forms they send out each year questioning you 1000 things like "Do you use a radar detector" among the many other stupid questions. And they threaten you that if you don't return the form they might cancel you. Again these are just a few of their many short comings. IMO stay away from Geico and get a real insurance company, and contrary to popular belief they are not always the cheapest for insurance. Glenn --- "Paul F. Johnston" wrote: > HI ZACK: > > I use Geico Direct and got a GREAT price from them > for insuring my bike, but then we insure our cars > through Geico's main office and live in Montgomery > County. Other mitigating factors may apply as well. > Be sure you contact their motorcycle insurance group > rather than their main office; the phone is > 800-44-CYCLE. When setting premiums, location is > extremely important, as is your age and bike model. > Apologies if you're already finding that out the > hard way...Rider magazine has an insurance plan > (through Progressive?), and the AMA may as well. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 11:04:32 2000 X-Sender: wes@XXXXXX (Unverified) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 11:01:05 -0400 To: Dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: wes Subject: Re[2]: Insurance.... I don't know about their background checks, but I pay a pretty good rate through State Farm, about $350/year for full coverage w/a $250 deductible for my '99 Bandit 1200. My policy (at least) covers helmets and up to $2000 in aftermarket accessories as long as their installation was documented (receipts & pictures). There's no discount for having auto through the same office, because the m/c is on a separate policy. My agent has been a lot of help in the last year dealing with settling my claim (m/c accident May '99) -- the lady who ran me over also has State Farm and *her* claims office has been a pain in the a$$. Leads me to believe that there are good agents & bad ones. Duh, I guess, that's life, right? Anyway, my too sense. --wes From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 11:15:49 2000 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:15:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Re: Insurance.... To: Zachariah Mully , DC Cycles Insurance companies are terrified of covering a bike in D.C. because of rampant theft. I had two bikes stolen last year when I lived on Capitol Hill. I moved to Virginia. My advice would be to move to Virginia or Maryland, or stay in the district and insure it through a relative or friend's place outside of the city (establish residence) and keep it hidden when it's in the city. Sean --- Zachariah Mully wrote: > Listers- > Because of my recent purchase, I now have to insure > the bike in DC. I > was wondering what insurance you DC listers are > using. I called > Progressive and they said they don't insure in DC > and Geico quoted me > $719 for a year of full everything (collision, > comprehensive, towing, > medical). It seems a bit high considering the bike > is a 1991 and only > 650cc's, and I haven't had a ticket in well over 3 > years. Then again I > do live in SE DC, but the bike will be garaged. What > gives? > On another note, when I asked what is covered by > the insurance > (accesories, etc.) they told me that they won't > insure my > riding/protective gear... Well, I think that is > f***** stupid, being > that I am trying to be as safe as possible but the > insurance companies > won't give me any credit for it. So (and I know that > this has come up on > the list) I am left with homeowners insurance to > cover any destroyed > riding gear, correct? And is the AMA (which I am not > yet a member, but > in my mind they're like the NRA, which I can't > support whole heartedly > either, because I feel they're picking the wrong > battles) doing anything > about this... I feel it is a total dis-incentive to > all us riders who > just want to ride and be protected. I looked at > their site, but nogo on > the insurance/gear issue. Kinda sucks.. > > Thanks, > Zack __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 15:32:10 2000 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 15:31:59 -0700 From: Dale Horstman X-Accept-Language: en To: DC Cycles List Subject: MD 2020 Rally info Forwarded message about the Rally. I hope to see some folks from DC-Cycles try to run in this event! Horkster ============================== Collective, Although Rally Pre-registration closes today (postmarks are the key), you still have the opportunity to enter the Mason Dixon 20-20, Group Saddlesore challenge June 10-11, in State Line, PA. This is an official Iron Butt Association event and an "easy" way to earn your IBA certificate- just show up and ride- no special paperwork or extra effort. This is not a COG sponsored ride. The 1057 mile Route, laid out almost entirely by co-route masters COG SS Admiral Louis Caplan and Todd Peer (an ST pilot), includes 388 miles of double yellow highway top grade Applachian twisties; your read that right- that's 388 miles, all in the first 1/2 of The Route. There will be: Food; a planned late afternoon/ early evening Dinner Stop along I-90; Food; two harder to get "I've Been Everwhere" stops (possible a very hard to get third, if it works out); Food; and, a Banquet on Sunday. Just make sure you sign up by 05:15am June 10 with the Rally Staff. For more Details, please see the website: http://MD-20-20.tripod.com Hope to see you there! Rick, MD-20-20webbastard From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 17:30:41 2000 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:29:21 -0400 From: Greg Hargett Subject: Clutch Cable for 87 EX 500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-to: jhargett@XXXXXX Hi all, does anyone have a spare / extra clutch cable they could sell me? It is for an 87 EX 500, and would be greatly appreciated. John From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 18:55:45 2000 From: MJordan666@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 18:55:30 EDT Subject: Looking For Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Pardon the bandwidth, but are you out there, Hugh? Please reply regarding the Memorial Day's event Thanks Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 19:10:43 2000 X-Real-To: Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 19:04:40 -0400 From: Bill Huson To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Is my bike fixed??? Chapter seventy `leven in the broken Harley tale, which began months ago while I was on my way to the dc-cycles circle event. My bike is *fixed* last Friday, but alas, 40 miles down the road it be dead again. Seems the nut on the end of the crank came loose (never torqued?) allowing the cam drive gear to come loose, which killed valve action and ignition - a double whammy. So last night it's *fixed* again! Okay, so I chug on home, feeling strange vibes I've never felt before, and notice that my turn signals aren't working - an early warning sign of a dead battery. So this AM I decide to check the alternator plug as it can get dirty. ???WHATDAFUG!!! Yeppers, sports fans, seems the plug was never reattached during assembly. Now about that curious vibe ? Could it be, based on a loose nut, forgotten plug track record, that the upper motor stabilzer was never properly tightened? Stay tuned, I'll be checking on that soon... Bill `93 FLHS in need of TLC From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 21:33:56 2000 Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:33:33 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Accept-Language: en To: Bill Huson CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Is my bike fixed??? Bill Huson wrote about getting his Harley out of the shop: > Seems the nut on the end of the crank came loose (never torqued?) > my turn signals aren't working > dead battery. > seems the plug was never reattached during assembly. > upper motor stabilzer was never properly tightened? Damn Bill, it sounds like that Harley dealer is sending his mechanics to Jap Bike school! I thought only us rice-riders had to deal with inept wrench spinners. Dealers suck! Period! Wishing you Loctite dreams and Goodwrench level service. Horkster -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) Dale City, VA, USA, Earth Feeling blue because the Cap 1000 is history? Then go here! The Mason Dixon 20-20 website: http://MD-20-20.tripod.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 21:38:21 2000 From: RMccre5861@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:38:04 EDT Subject: Re: Is my bike fixed??? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Bill do you pay them to screw your bike up? I do not think i would like to go very far after they have been working on it. I think you need a new shop???? RMC From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 22:24:29 2000 X-Real-To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 22:18:34 -0400 From: Bill Huson To: Dale Horstman CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Is my bike fixed??? Well, not a dealer - independant shop. The attitude is far superior and that kinda goes a long way with me. I don't consider the wrench inept, just overwhelmed by a job to big for me to take on. It's like a new bike - bound to have a few gremlins :-) Bill Dale Horstman wrote: > Bill Huson wrote about getting his Harley out of the shop: > > > Seems the nut on the end of the crank came loose (never torqued?) > > > my turn signals aren't working > > > dead battery. > > > seems the plug was never reattached during assembly. > > > upper motor stabilzer was never properly tightened? > > Damn Bill, it sounds like that Harley dealer is sending > his mechanics to Jap Bike school! I thought only us > rice-riders had to deal with inept wrench spinners. > > Dealers suck! Period! > > Wishing you Loctite dreams and Goodwrench level service. > > Horkster > > -- > Dale Horstman (the Horkster) > Dale City, VA, USA, Earth > > Feeling blue because the Cap 1000 is history? Then go here! > The Mason Dixon 20-20 website: http://MD-20-20.tripod.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri Jun 2 22:27:03 2000 X-Real-To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 22:21:10 -0400 From: Bill Huson To: RMccre5861@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Is my bike fixed??? Hey, that's what shake-down cruise are for! Or in the case of a Harley, shake-loose cruises. Considering the magnitude of this fix, they did okay. Bill RMccre5861@XXXXXX wrote: > Bill do you pay them to screw your bike up? I do not think i would like to go > very far after they have been working on it. I think you need a new shop???? > > RMC From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 3 12:10:43 2000 Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 12:14:25 -0400 From: Nelson Fernandez Organization: Production Technology, Inc. X-Accept-Language: en To: Bill Huson CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Is my bike fixed??? Bill I'd say it might be time to find a new shop to work on the Hawg. Sorry to hear about the bike. Hopefully it will be "fixed right" this time. Good luck my friend Nelson Bill Huson wrote: > Chapter seventy `leven in the broken Harley tale, which began months ago > while I was on my way to the dc-cycles circle event. > > My bike is *fixed* last Friday, but alas, 40 miles down the road it be From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 3 14:38:36 2000 From: MJordan666@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 14:38:25 EDT Subject: Re: Is my bike fixed??? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 6/2/00 21:36:34 Eastern Daylight Time, horkster@XXXXXX writes: > Damn Bill, it sounds like that Harley dealer is sending > his mechanics to Jap Bike school! I thought only us > rice-riders had to deal with inept wrench spinners. > > Dealers suck! Period! I was chatting with the GM of Cycle Sport (Herndon) this morning after dropping off my brake rotors (to be attached to my new wheel). He was lamenting the availability of service techs - seems like the traditional workforce pool is wrenching PCs, making more money and going home with clean fingernails. He said that traditionally they lose money on a mechanic the first year, break even the second and start making money on him the third (practice, practice). The problem is, by this time the young mech gets married, needs more ca$h and leaves the cycle business for cars or some such. Coupled with a seasonal business (not much action in the winter) he's VERY concerned about the future of service in the business. How's that for a warm fuzzy?? Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 3 15:12:57 2000 X-Real-To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 15:07:03 -0400 From: Bill Huson To: MJordan666@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Is my bike fixed??? In a previous life I wuz a GM at a marina and the same deal there. Boat riggers were usually HS kids so I had to sort out the natural talent from the klutzs real quick. Boat mechs did have schools available but most started without training and if they stuck around they got sent to factory schools, and then.... 50/50 chance they'd boogie. One can make a decent living turning wrenchs on boats or bike if they live in East BugSplat, but here??? Our local cost of living puts a wrench on the low-low side. One reason I turn my bike over to a shop - I can make more money doing *my* job than it will cost me to pay a mech to do his job. Bill always warm and fuzzy :-) MJordan666@XXXXXX wrote: > I was chatting with the GM of Cycle Sport (Herndon) this morning after > dropping off my brake rotors (to be attached to my new wheel). > > He was lamenting the availability of service techs - seems like the > traditional workforce pool is wrenching PCs, making more money and going home > with clean fingernails. He said that traditionally they lose money on a > mechanic the first year, break even the second and start making money on him > the third (practice, practice). > > The problem is, by this time the young mech gets married, needs more ca$h and > leaves the cycle business for cars or some such. Coupled with a seasonal > business (not much action in the winter) he's VERY concerned about the future > of service in the business. > > How's that for a warm fuzzy?? > > Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 3 15:16:32 2000 X-Real-To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 15:10:17 -0400 From: Bill Huson To: Nelson Fernandez CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Is my bike fixed??? Well, it runs! Loose sidecover bolts were the latest surprise - lost one, Patriot H-D had one in stock All better. Picked up a couple oil line seals too - one leaks a tad. A Harley with an oil leak? Ohmigod, can't have that! Bill Nelson Fernandez wrote: > Bill > > I'd say it might be time to find a new shop to work on the Hawg. Sorry to > hear about the bike. Hopefully it will be "fixed right" this time. > > Good luck my friend > Nelson > > Bill Huson wrote: > > > Chapter seventy `leven in the broken Harley tale, which began months ago > > while I was on my way to the dc-cycles circle event. > > > > My bike is *fixed* last Friday, but alas, 40 miles down the road it be From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 3 23:00:36 2000 From: "Brian McCoy" To: Subject: Techs.. Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:00:51 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Well, for all the hardship and people wanting more money, and wrenching on bikes because that's all they can get (which is true for the most part).. there ARE people like me out here too... The guy's who could be working on the netowrking systems for some multi-billion dollar company and pulling in a small bank for salary (like most of you reading this e-mail) - but choose to do what they LOVE (and happen to be somewhat accomplished doing). Granted, I'm single - don't mind living off pasta (ooohhhHHhhh.. Sam's Club has HUGE bags of pasta for like $3 - 2~3 should tide me over for a month.. *grin*). Actually, just like anything in life, if you're good at what you do, money can be made. Hrmm.. what's the saying 'Do what you love and you shall be wealthy'.. ?? Sorry you STILL don't have the bike as it was before the initial incident. Hopefully it's just little things now, and you can ride it anytime you choose..... Brian McCoy - still with a 98.6% cumlitive GPA here at MMI, and not 1 minute missed. From dc-cycles-request Sat Jun 3 23:33:51 2000 X-Real-To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 23:27:58 -0400 From: Bill Huson To: Brian McCoy CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Techs.. Yes, I can go with doing what you like for a living. Sometimes the general situation forces one away from doing what they like - me for example. I loved teaching, even loved teaching those hormonal jr hi kids, bless thier frisky, confused souls, but then there were *administrators* (See Spineless Twits in your dictionary) and *Guidance counselors* (See Clueless Dorks in same doictionary). Four years of watching those A-holes screw over *my* kids and I was whipped. Oh yeah, I looked into MMI, but alas, married, tihe usual bills, kids still sucking off the daddy money tree, so I had to pass. Sad part is my need$ are low enough that I could actully live on a tech-mech paycheck, and oh yeah, have fun doing it. Bill Brian McCoy wrote: > Well, for all the hardship and people wanting more money, and wrenching on > bikes because that's all they can get (which is true for the most part).. > there ARE people like me out here too... The guy's who could be working on > the netowrking systems for some multi-billion dollar company and pulling in > a small bank for salary (like most of you reading this e-mail) - but choose > to do what they LOVE (and happen to be somewhat accomplished doing). > > Granted, I'm single - don't mind living off pasta (ooohhhHHhhh.. Sam's Club > has HUGE bags of pasta for like $3 - 2~3 should tide me over for a month.. > *grin*). Actually, just like anything in life, if you're good at what you > do, money can be made. Hrmm.. what's the saying 'Do what you love and you > shall be wealthy'.. ?? > > Sorry you STILL don't have the bike as it was before the initial incident. > Hopefully it's just little things now, and you can ride it anytime you > choose..... > > Brian McCoy - still with a 98.6% cumlitive GPA here at MMI, and not 1 minute > missed. From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 4 07:37:38 2000 Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 07:37:35 -0400 From: Randy and Julie Moran Subject: Bike Show - Today - Hooter's - Manassas To: DC Cycles Reply-to: jmoran@XXXXXX X-Accept-Language: en,pdf Mostly Harleys, but a few sport bikes and my SV650 racer as well. My sponsors, Whitt's Suzuki, will have a display. In the parking lot of Hooter's in Manassas, VA. Come on down and see some cool bikes! Randy Moran WERA #696 http://www.geocities.com/rajmoran/ Sponsored by: Whitt's Suzuki of Manassas, VA http://www.speed-werks.com http://www.cortidesign.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 4 11:45:42 2000 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 08:45:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Is my bike fixed yet?? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Bill, Hope all your worries are fixed and you can start to trust your bike again. although you are a more patient understanding man than I. I understand that it was a big job, but hey, if i am paying them the big bucks for them to do it, I would expect it to be right the first time. *I* am perfectly capable of bungling a job on my own, and I'm a heck of a lot cheaper :) With what you have posted so far, I would seriously be concerned at this point wondering what else they may not have torqued down properly... all in all, sounds like a very frustrating situation. *Most* folks that I know who use the said shop have had nothing but praise to speak of them. however, over the past two years I have started hearing a few complaints along the lines of your bike... stuff not done quite right.. but usually not serious failiures like yours. My only direct experience with them was mounting and balancing a set of tires. Unfortunatley, front came back about as out of balance as it could possibly be, to the point of unsafe to ride. Ended up static balancing it myself... Collin ===== Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Dixie Cycles Bell Helmets, and EBC Brakes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 4 12:15:49 2000 X-Real-To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 12:09:50 -0400 From: Bill Huson To: "Collin T. Fagan" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Is my bike fixed yet?? Well the way I figure, there's comedies and tragedies. A tragedy is when someone gets maimed or killed, all else in life is a comedy. Sometime this summer or fall, I'll be sitting around campfire with a sweating beer in hand, and laughing over the Saga of the Harley. Bill Collin T. Fagan wrote: > Bill, > > Hope all your worries are fixed and you can start to trust your bike > again. although you are a more patient understanding man than I. I > understand that it was a big job, but hey, if i am paying them the big > bucks for them to do it, I would expect it to be right the first time. > *I* am perfectly capable of bungling a job on my own, and I'm a heck of > a lot cheaper :) > With what you have posted so far, I would seriously be concerned at > this point wondering what else they may not have torqued down > properly... all in all, sounds like a very frustrating situation. > > *Most* folks that I know who use the said shop have had nothing but > praise to speak of them. however, over the past two years I have > started hearing a few complaints along the lines of your bike... stuff > not done quite right.. but usually not serious failiures like yours. > > My only direct experience with them was mounting and balancing a set of > tires. Unfortunatley, front came back about as out of balance as it > could possibly be, to the point of unsafe to ride. Ended up static > balancing it myself... > > Collin > > ===== > Collin T. Fagan > DC-Cycles Racing > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > Proudly sponsored by: > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > Dixie Cycles > Bell Helmets, and EBC Brakes > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 4 14:39:10 2000 From: "Greg" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: 87 EX 500 Clutch Cable Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:37:54 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Hi all, does anyone on this list have an extra clutch cable to sale? It is needed for an 87 EX 500. Thanks ..... Greg From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 4 14:39:17 2000 From: "Greg" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: 87 EX 500 Clutch Cable Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:30:05 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Hi all, does anyone on this list have an extra clutch cable to sale? It is needed for an 87 EX 500. Thanks ..... Greg From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 4 22:58:22 2000 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 22:57:59 -0400 From: zbig@XXXXXX To: Chuck Pena Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Ride for Bike Night 2 * Chuck Pena (cvkgpena@XXXXXX) [000524 13:50]: > Zbig, > > Thanks for doing this. Once you have a plan put together, please just > post to the list and announce it as an "official" Bike Night 2 event. > > Chuck OK, kiddos - here it goes. Bike Night 2 Ride. Meeting: Burger King, on Rt 7, between Cascades and Countryside. Total ride: 250 miles, approx 7 hours. We will go directly to Carpool. pace: slow, sedating, easy. If you want to hurry - go ahead, road is open. protective gear - recommended, as usually. Cheaper than skin grafts. Detailed directions to Burger Kind, ride route description, maps (PDF), maps (Street Atlas 6.0 format) - available at: http://www.apk.net/zbig/bn2 I will have a limited supply of ride sheets and maps with me; if you can, download/print the ones posted on the web. bring with you your digital camera, GPS, geek toys... and enjoy the ride. _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 00' Blade C43 AMG - Silver Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Sun Jun 4 22:59:24 2000 X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 22:59:00 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: FOX5 Indian report Anyone watch the FOX5 report on the rebirth of the Indian motorcycle company? Nice looking bikes. Not a single shot in the 5 minute spot showed a rider with a helmet on. Cruising around the street - even the reporter was lidless. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 08:52:10 2000 Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 08:51:59 -0400 From: Dave Yates X-Accept-Language: en To: DC-Cycles Subject: Plug for Atlantic Friday, on the way home I got caught in hideous traffic. about 15 minutes from home, I started to feel the (handle)bars shake. I stopped & noticed what I thought was a missing weight, so I pressed on. I called Atlantic Cycle in White Plains, explained my plight & they agreed to lend me a hand Saturday AM. Years ago, I wasn't exactly satisfied at some work they did for me, but for the purposes of this message, I think they deserve a good write up, they stuck with me until they found the problem - steering head bearings. They were as busy as a shop would be at this time of year, but got me in anyway (the bike is my only ride for a few more days ). None of the people there were present years ago when I had problems, so they at least deserve a fair shake. Ride safe. -- 'Nitrous. It's not just for dentists anymore' Dave Yates '97 Cobra #5148 /'90 ZX11'Acceleratus Maximus' SCOA #1042 / SCMC #265 / NMA / AMA http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ Systems Programmer (301) 496-3760 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 09:30:15 2000 X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 09:21:25 -0400 To: From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: Techs.. At 08:00 PM 6/3/00 -0700, Brian McCoy wrote: >Well, for all the hardship and people wanting more money, and wrenching on >bikes because that's all they can get (which is true for the most part).. >there ARE people like me out here too... -snip- Well, Brian, let me give you another perspective. I had the "dream job" working in the service dept at a honda dealer when I was in college. It was great. I spent all day working on customer's bikes, then went home & worked on my own stuff. About 12hrs a day nothing but spinning wrenches. One day, when we were all planning to go to the motorcycle show in NYC, somebody asked the owner of the shop if he wanted to go. He said "What the hell would I want to do that for, I spent 6 days a week around motorcycles..." (He started out as a tech & used to race in the sixties & finally bought opened a dealership in the 70's, this all happened in the late '80's) Anyway, I was sort of surprised, the thought never crossed my mind that someone wouldn't want to go. I worked there for four years, and towards the end of that time I could see that if I made a career out of it, bikes would loose there appeal to me due to saturation. I realized I just never got away from the things. Sure I would have been happy for 5-10 years, but eventually it would become "a job." I didn't want bikes to become this to me. I want them to stay a hobby that I do for enjoyment. I enjoy racing, and that gets out of my system all of my desire to work on bikes. I decided then to look for "professional" work that kept me from actually spinning the wrenches, but still involved in technical things, which is directly how I ended up where I am today. I guess the moral of the story, be careful what you ask for, it might just happen... S Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 09:59:38 2000 From: "Weaver, Chris_(MD)" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: FW: 98 SuperHawk For Sale Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:51:06 -0400 No, I'm not selling my bike. This is an ad I found on the Superhawk mailing list. This sounds like a great value. Respond to the guy selling the bike, not me. (Obviously) Chris Weaver '98 VTR From: "Dennis Woods" Subject: 98 SuperHawk For Sale Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 17:42:41 -0400 Hi everyone. After 2 months of owning both the VTR and 929, I've decided that there's just too much overlap to keep them both. So I'm putting the VTR up on the auction block :-(. The bike is located in Reston, VA which is near Washington DC. Red 98 VTR1000F with 9k miles RaceTech .90 kg/mm springs Fox Twin Clicker Rear shock with ride height adjuster Yoshimura Carbon Fiber slip on exhausts (once owned by the infamous Scott Winders I might add) Givi monorack luggage rack and E460 locking hard bag Helibars tinted windscreen (Lockhart I think) Carbon Fiber rear Hugger Tail Locker rear trunk and fender eliminator Sigma BC800 cycle computer New Michelin Macadam 80x/90x tires Snazzy Euro "Firestorm" stickers instead of the more pedestrian "Superhawk" All stock parts also included Oldtimers might recognize this as former lister Jim Plutnicki's former bike which it is. It has lead a garaged and generally pampered existence although I did scratch the front fender and left side of the tailsection in an unfortunate mishap involving a front end stand. Remember people, drinking and wrenching can be dangerous! Other than that it is in very good condition. I would consider breaking out the Fox shock ($350), Helibars ($125), pipes ($350) and Givi rack ($150) depending on circumstance. I would really rather not uninstall the shock but a few hundred bucks will motivate even my lazy self. $6500 for the whole shooting match. $5900 with all the goodies removed. Reply off list Thanks, Dennis From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 11:25:09 2000 From: ursulina viteri X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:24:15 -0400 Subject: Motorcyclist chase through downtown Fredericksburg TO: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --openmail-part-169369ae-00000001 Content-Disposition: inline Hello everyone, I saw an article in the Friday, June 2 Fredericksburg, Va. Free-Lance Star that detailed a motorcycle chase through parts of Stafford County and Fredericksburg around 2:30 pm on Thursday. Cops on the Blue & Gray parkway knew the rider was coming, but were unable to stop him. The rider was bold enough as to turn around in the median on Route 3 West and began popping repeated wheelies, according to police. The best line in the article was "He was getting everything out of that bike and more" as it detailed the biker was radared at 90 mph but lead a chase that went over 100 mph near the Interstate 95 exit and 60 mph in as he weaved through traffic and ran red lights. Wild! The rider was not caught as the cops lost sight of him after 30 minute of chase. Anyone see this happen? - - Ursulina 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD (not even close to 100 mph) --openmail-part-169369ae-00000001-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 11:48:05 2000 Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 11:46:55 -0400 From: "Robert Beatty" To: Subject: Re: Motorcyclist chase through downtown Fredericksburg Content-Disposition: inline X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id e55Fm7k20272 Nothing here but, it sound like someone has total control of their riding abilities. >>> ursulina viteri 06/05/00 11:24AM >>> Hello everyone, I saw an article in the Friday, June 2 Fredericksburg, Va. Free-Lance Star that detailed a motorcycle chase through parts of Stafford County and Fredericksburg around 2:30 pm on Thursday. Cops on the Blue & Gray parkway knew the rider was coming, but were unable to stop him. The rider was bold enough as to turn around in the median on Route 3 West and began popping repeated wheelies, according to police. The best line in the article was "He was getting everything out of that bike and more" as it detailed the biker was radared at 90 mph but lead a chase that went over 100 mph near the Interstate 95 exit and 60 mph in as he weaved through traffic and ran red lights. Wild! The rider was not caught as the cops lost sight of him after 30 minute of chase. Anyone see this happen? - - Ursulina 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD (not even close to 100 mph) From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 11:49:04 2000 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 08:48:53 -0700 (PDT) From: martin lee Subject: Need good roads To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I live in Alexandria, VA. I am looking for good roads in the VA/DC/MD area (short 3-4 hour trips). Also, how do I get to Skyline Dr. and the Blue Ridge Pwy? Thanks for your recommendations. Marty __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 12:02:27 2000 Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 12:02:10 -0700 From: Dale Horstman X-Accept-Language: en To: ursulina viteri CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Motorcyclist chase through downtown Fredericksburg ursulina viteri wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I saw an article in the Friday, June 2 Fredericksburg, Va. > Free-Lance Star that detailed a motorcycle chase through parts of > Stafford County and Fredericksburg around 2:30 pm on Thursday. Cool! I made the papers! :) > Cops on the Blue & Gray parkway knew the rider was coming, but were > unable to stop him. Heh, heh, take that! I ain't stopping for no fuzz! The expressions on those doughnut-boys' faces was priceless. > The rider was bold enough as to turn around in the median on > Route 3 West and began popping repeated wheelies, according to police. I was trying to just hold one wheelie, but the front end dropped momentarily when I upshifted to 4th. Gotta work on my technique, I guess... I'm kind of bummed, they paper left out the part where I flipped up the face of my Nolan helmet and gave the cops chasing me a "bronx cheer". > The best line in the article was "He was getting everything out of > that bike and more" as it detailed the biker was radared at 90 mph but > lead a chase that went over 100 mph near the Interstate 95 exit and 60 > mph in Nah, the Connie will do 130, easy. Never got close to top speed yesterday. > as he weaved through traffic and ran red lights. Wild! Gotta try to rub out the one scuff in the saddlebag. I clipped the mirror on a dam**d ovloV that didn't move out of my way fast enough. > The rider was not caught as the cops lost sight of him after 30 > minute of chase. Heh, heh. 6th gear is so cool! > Anyone see this happen? Well, the images in the mirrors were kind of fuzzy, since the bike does buzz a bit at *ahem* highway speeds. :) I guess you could say I saw parts of it. ;) :) :) Horkster PS: Note the smileys, folks. -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth Join the Mason Dixon 2020, an Group Saddlesore 1000 Challenge! - June 9-11. http://MD-20-20.tripod.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 12:56:34 2000 From: "Weaver, Chris_(MD)" To: "'ursulina viteri'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Motorcyclist chase through downtown Fredericksburg Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 12:48:03 -0400 You don't do your bike justice. It'll go 100 (only just barely). Don't ask me how I know. Chris Weaver '98 VTR 1000 '86 LTD 454 (sold) > -----Original Message----- > From: ursulina viteri [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] > - - Ursulina > 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD (not even close to 100 mph) > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 12:58:16 2000 X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 12:58:03 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Motorcyclist chase through downtown Fredericksburg At 11:24 AM 6/5/00 , ursulina viteri wrote: > Anyone see this happen? See it? I was in a hurry - they tried to slow me down. ;-) Zbig - where were you Friday? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 13:07:17 2000 Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 13:11:17 -0400 From: "Paul F. Johnston" To: Subject: Good DC Honda Dealer? Content-Disposition: inline X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id e55H7Jk21676 HI ALL: I'm looking for the best local Honda dealer for service; I live in Bethesda. Any suggestions? TIA, PAUL From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 13:27:48 2000 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 10:27:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Reply-To: dysart@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Motorcyclist chase through downtown Fredericksburg To: ursulina viteri , dc-cycles@XXXXXX This is quite amusing, I thought for sure I would see at the end of this article of "how they caught the bad guy". Like those America's Scarcest Police Chases where the host claims that "you can never get away from the police". Glenn --- ursulina viteri wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I saw an article in the Friday, June 2 > Fredericksburg, Va. > Free-Lance Star that detailed a motorcycle chase > through parts of > Stafford County and Fredericksburg around 2:30 pm on > Thursday. Cops on > the Blue & Gray parkway knew the rider was coming, > but were unable to > stop him. The rider was bold enough as to turn > around in the median on > Route 3 West and began popping repeated wheelies, > according to police. > > The best line in the article was "He was > getting everything out of > that bike and more" as it detailed the biker was > radared at 90 mph but > lead a chase that went over 100 mph near the > Interstate 95 exit and 60 > mph in as he weaved through traffic and ran red > lights. Wild! > > The rider was not caught as the cops lost > sight of him after 30 > minute of chase. > > Anyone see this happen? > > - - Ursulina > 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD (not even close to 100 mph) > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 13:58:58 2000 X-Originating-IP: [199.217.89.183] From: "Razz Man" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Motorcyclist chase through downtown Fredericksburg Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 13:58:34 EDT And you told me when I bought it was only driven to church on sundays. ;-) Razz 99 ZX9r 86 LTD454 that Chris speed tested for me 83 LTD 440 slightly bent up >You don't do your bike justice. It'll go 100 (only just barely). Don't ask >me how I know. > >Chris Weaver >'98 VTR 1000 >'86 LTD 454 (sold) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ursulina viteri [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] > > - - Ursulina > > 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD (not even close to 100 mph) > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 14:06:56 2000 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:06:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Motorbikin da song is da bomb I've just ripped one of my favorite motorcycle songs to mp3. Motorbikin by Martha and the Muffins. If you would like a copy send me an email or better yet if someone has some web space to post it that would be easier. Maratha and the Muffins kick ass and a few of their songs reference bikes so go out and buy their stuff if you can find it. Any know if there's a repository of motorbike songs on the net? "Movind down the Queen's highway looking like a streak of lightning" ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 14:09:37 2000 From: "Weaver, Chris_(MD)" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Kmart Sells Motorcycles!? Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:01:07 -0400 http://store.bluelight.com/sports-motorcycles---scooters.html Chris Weaver '98 VTR From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 15:11:33 2000 Reply-To: "Dave Cross" From: "Dave Cross" To: Subject: Re: Kmart Sells Motorcycles!? Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:12:28 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 >From the looks of that exhaust pipe it would seem that your leg would get mighty toasty. dave cross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Weaver, Chris_(MD)" To: Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:01 PM Subject: Kmart Sells Motorcycles!? > http://store.bluelight.com/sports-motorcycles---scooters.html > > Chris Weaver > '98 VTR > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 16:19:40 2000 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 16:19:25 EDT Subject: Re: Kmart Sells Motorcycles!? To: cweaver@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX ROTFLMAO. Attention K-Mart shopper's. Blue Light Special in aisle three. That is SOOOO hilarious. Scooter In a message dated Mon, 5 Jun 2000 2:10:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Weaver, Chris_(MD)" writes: << http://store.bluelight.com/sports-motorcycles---scooters.html Chris Weaver '98 VTR >> From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 17:56:47 2000 From: BryanRoach@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 17:56:13 EDT Subject: Re: A Question for the racers... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX What?? No flame war on trail braking?? The answer is: Freddy Spencer says yes. Keith Code says no. Your milage may vary :) My personal opinion is that physics also say no, and it's a real bad idea. If you hit the brake, weight goes forward and the bike wants to stand up (and run wide). It also loads the front tire. That tire is already having lateral forces applied to it so you can turn. You're now asking that contact patch to do more work... it may not be able to. If you are an experienced racer, and know the limits of the front tire and how much you're currently pushing it, trail braking does have it's uses, and many racers do it with good results. The last time I tried a trail braking maneuver, I lost the front and hit the pavement at around 70mph. Lesson learned: Brake while upright, gas while leaned over :) - Roach From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 20:44:08 2000 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 17:44:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: RE: Motorcyclist chase through downtown Fredericksburg To: Razz Man , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sounds like Chris was in a hurry to get to church. :-) --- Razz Man wrote: > And you told me when I bought it was only driven to > church on sundays. ;-) > > Razz > 99 ZX9r > 86 LTD454 that Chris speed tested for me > 83 LTD 440 slightly bent up > > > > >You don't do your bike justice. It'll go 100 (only > just barely). Don't ask > >me how I know. > > > >Chris Weaver > >'98 VTR 1000 > >'86 LTD 454 (sold) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ursulina viteri > [SMTP:ursulina.viteri@XXXXXX] > > > - - Ursulina > > > 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD (not even close to 100 > mph) > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 21:16:49 2000 From: MJordan666@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 21:16:05 EDT Subject: Re: Need good roads To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > I live in Alexandria, VA. I am looking for good roads > in the VA/DC/MD area (short 3-4 hour trips). Well Marty, you're in luck! You're just minutes away from some of the best riding in the country (how many minutes varies with traffic and your personal estimation of what constitutes "Reasonable and Proper") I can't speak for the eastern Maryland side (haven't been there) but the Virginia/West Virginia/western Maryland roads are great. Generally speaking, you have to leave civilization before you hit the largely untravelled roads that abound in this area - draw a north-south line through Leesburg, and just about everything west of the line is good. > Also, how do I get to Skyline Dr. and the Blue Ridge Pwy? Skyline starts at Front Royal, with the BRP starting about 320 road miles south of Front Royal - it's a long day at 35mph. An option is to take Skyline from Front Royal to Rt 211 at Thornton's Gap (about 110 miles of 35mph) or vice versa. 211 is worth the trip by itself, if you like fast sweepers. Alan Wheat leads a number of group rides, unfortunately, I don't remember his web page URL. As Horace Greely said, "Go west, young man" Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 22:08:15 2000 X-Sender: tech3047@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 22:05:54 -0400 To: martin lee , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "wes 8-)#" Subject: Re: Need good roads Marty -- Here's one of my favorite day-trip type rides: Back roads from my house in Springfield down to the Prince William Parkway, then go towards Woodbridge. Right on Hoadly Road, then on to Rt. 234, where I turn left. There's a 7-11 with a gas station at that intersection. Right onto Rt. 619 and blast! Left onto Rt. 28 for about 50-60 yards, then right onto Rt. 255 (I think -- it is definitely the first right turn). Blast! but watch out for several hairpin turns and blind decreasing-radius turns that go both up- and downhill. Right on US29. Left onto Rt. 55 and cruise slowly through Haymarket. Once out of Haymarket Blast! until you get to The Plains. Turn right at the BP station. Enjoy this road at a fast yet sane pace until you get to Middleburg. At US50, go West towards Winchester. Once in Winchester, get gas and food. (on the outskirts of Winchester there's a Harley dealer; you can also get on I81 and go North to exit 321 and visit the Winchester Indian Motorcycle Co., where they sell Triumphs, Ducatis, and Moto Guzzis). Follow US50 through Winchester until you see signs for Rt. 7 East. Take Rt. 7 East out of Winchester, go for a while. Turn right onto the Snickersville Turnpike and once you get past the 5 mph (that's five) hairpin turn (they're not kidding) have fun in cow & horse country. Snickersville dead-ends into US50, so when you get there turn left (East) and go home however you would go home. Sometimes I'll turn right on US15 at Gilbert's Corner and take that back to US29, other times I'll just stay on US50. Whew. And take a good map, just in case. --wes At 11:48 05-06-00, martin lee wrote: >I live in Alexandria, VA. I am looking for good roads >in the VA/DC/MD area (short 3-4 hour trips). From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 22:27:42 2000 From: "Kirt S." To: Subject: Re: Need good roads Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:27:33 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 I don't think I'd call 211 "sweepers". There are some downright sharp ass turns on that road. I love it, and wish I lived closer to it. Ah well...it's an occasional "treat" now... Kirt ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 9:16 PM Subject: Re: Need good roads > > I live in Alexandria, VA. I am looking for good roads > > in the VA/DC/MD area (short 3-4 hour trips). > > Well Marty, you're in luck! You're just minutes away from some of the best > riding in the country (how many minutes varies with traffic and your personal > estimation of what constitutes "Reasonable and Proper") > > I can't speak for the eastern Maryland side (haven't been there) but the > Virginia/West Virginia/western Maryland roads are great. Generally speaking, > you have to leave civilization before you hit the largely untravelled roads > that abound in this area - draw a north-south line through Leesburg, and just > about everything west of the line is good. > > > > Also, how do I get to Skyline Dr. and the Blue Ridge Pwy? > > > Skyline starts at Front Royal, with the BRP starting about 320 road miles > south of Front Royal - it's a long day at 35mph. > > An option is to take Skyline from Front Royal to Rt 211 at Thornton's Gap > (about 110 miles of 35mph) or vice versa. 211 is worth the trip by itself, if > you like fast sweepers. > > Alan Wheat leads a number of group rides, unfortunately, I don't remember his > web page URL. > > As Horace Greely said, "Go west, young man" > > Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 22:42:22 2000 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:42:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Need good roads Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Kirt S. wrote: > I don't think I'd call 211 "sweepers". There are some downright sharp > ass turns on that road. I love it, and wish I lived closer to it. Where are the tight turns on 211? I don't recall seeing any. 33 has tighter ones and 250 has tighter still (but the pavement usually isn't that great). WV17 (if my memory serves me on the route #) has ignorantly tight turns. VA42? Tight. 56? Tight. Etc. These are all day trippable roads. Sure, if you want to only do a short run (under 200 miles) you might think 211 is tight. For a good day trip (400+ miles) you can hit some much better stuff. If you want a longer trip with tight turns take the BRP south and try out the intersecting roads. Just about any of them will dispel the notion that 211 has anything tight on it (I'm partial to NC myself (215, 276, etc)). Kirk 2000 Kawasaki KLX300 (http://planetklx.dirtrider.net) 1998 Honda VTR1000 (http://members.nova.org/~kirk/Kirk1.jpg) DCOffroad - the Wash, DC area offroad e-mail list: http://www.egroups.com/community/dcoffroad From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 22:50:09 2000 From: "Kirt S." To: Subject: Re: Need good roads Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:50:03 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 I stand corrected than... I will have to go investigate them thar roads. :-) 211 has some turns that I was leaned over mighty far on though. Kirt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Roy" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:42 PM Subject: Re: Need good roads > On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Kirt S. wrote: > > I don't think I'd call 211 "sweepers". There are some downright sharp > > ass turns on that road. I love it, and wish I lived closer to it. > > Where are the tight turns on 211? I don't recall seeing any. 33 has > tighter ones and 250 has tighter still (but the pavement usually isn't > that great). WV17 (if my memory serves me on the route #) has ignorantly > tight turns. VA42? Tight. 56? Tight. Etc. These are all day trippable > roads. Sure, if you want to only do a short run (under 200 miles) you > might think 211 is tight. For a good day trip (400+ miles) you can hit > some much better stuff. If you want a longer trip with tight turns take > the BRP south and try out the intersecting roads. Just about any of > them will dispel the notion that 211 has anything tight on it (I'm partial > to NC myself (215, 276, etc)). > > Kirk > 2000 Kawasaki KLX300 (http://planetklx.dirtrider.net) > 1998 Honda VTR1000 (http://members.nova.org/~kirk/Kirk1.jpg) > DCOffroad - the Wash, DC area offroad e-mail list: > http://www.egroups.com/community/dcoffroad > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 23:01:15 2000 From: "Kirt S." To: Subject: Re: Need good roads Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:01:09 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Kirk, are you just grinding your footpeg feelers off in the "kirkcircles.jpg" pics on your site? How fast are you going in those pics? Like 5 mph? Kirt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Roy" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:42 PM Subject: Re: Need good roads > On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Kirt S. wrote: > > I don't think I'd call 211 "sweepers". There are some downright sharp > > ass turns on that road. I love it, and wish I lived closer to it. > > Where are the tight turns on 211? I don't recall seeing any. 33 has > tighter ones and 250 has tighter still (but the pavement usually isn't > that great). WV17 (if my memory serves me on the route #) has ignorantly > tight turns. VA42? Tight. 56? Tight. Etc. These are all day trippable > roads. Sure, if you want to only do a short run (under 200 miles) you > might think 211 is tight. For a good day trip (400+ miles) you can hit > some much better stuff. If you want a longer trip with tight turns take > the BRP south and try out the intersecting roads. Just about any of > them will dispel the notion that 211 has anything tight on it (I'm partial > to NC myself (215, 276, etc)). > > Kirk > 2000 Kawasaki KLX300 (http://planetklx.dirtrider.net) > 1998 Honda VTR1000 (http://members.nova.org/~kirk/Kirk1.jpg) > DCOffroad - the Wash, DC area offroad e-mail list: > http://www.egroups.com/community/dcoffroad > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 23:10:41 2000 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:10:20 -0400 From: zbig@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Need good roads > From: "Kirk Roy" > To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:42 PM > Subject: Re: Need good roads > > > > Where are the tight turns on 211? I don't recall seeing any. 33 has > > tighter ones and 250 has tighter still (but the pavement usually isn't > > that great). WV17 (if my memory serves me on the route #) has ignorantly 33 has a nice even pavement, occassionally coverd with gravel - but we need something for an adrenaline rush. At least surface was great all the way to the top - last 3 turns on second ridge has some gravel. Downhill from second ridge is marvellous. bewarned, after last few weeks locals are getting antsy seeing bikes on 33. > > them will dispel the notion that 211 has anything tight on it (I'm partial > > to NC myself (215, 276, etc)). Kirk, you forgot to add that you learned this roads on a bicycle. After such experience, 211 is really wide open :-). > > > > Kirk _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 00' Blade C43 AMG - Silver Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 23:17:52 2000 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:17:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Need good roads Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Kirt S. wrote: > Kirk, are you just grinding your footpeg feelers off in the > "kirkcircles.jpg" pics on your site? Er, I didn't expect someone to be going through my files... :) Footpeg feelers? Nothing's touching down in those pics (well, maybe my toe). Note Collin's jealous look in the background. You can almost hear him mumbling, "I will destroy that bike!" :) > How fast are you going in those pics? Like 5 mph? I have no idea how fast. Surely more than 5 mph. Those are Leon's circles from a couple years ago (before Todd's party - I've got a pic of Todd going through the circles somewhere around here too). Any speed guesses Leon? I can only say that it wasn't fast enough... Kirk 2000 Kawasaki KLX300 (http://planetklx.dirtrider.net) 1998 Honda VTR1000 (http://members.nova.org/~kirk/Kirk1.jpg) DCOffroad - the Wash, DC area offroad e-mail list: http://www.egroups.com/community/dcoffroad From dc-cycles-request Mon Jun 5 23:21:54 2000 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 23:21:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Need good roads Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 zbig@XXXXXX wrote: > Kirk, you forgot to add that you learned this roads on a bicycle. > After such experience, 211 is really wide open :-). Now I need an engine just to get to the top. :) I do miss the thrill of blitzing the downhills passing cars... Shoot, I might be able to accelerate downhill faster now that I've got the windcheating aerogut(tm). :) Kirk 2000 Kawasaki KLX300 (http://planetklx.dirtrider.net) 1998 Honda VTR1000 (http://members.nova.org/~kirk/Kirk1.jpg) DCOffroad - the Wash, DC area offroad e-mail list: http://www.egroups.com/community/dcoffroad From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 07:32:15 2000 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 04:32:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Reply-To: dysart@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Need good roads To: MJordan666@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Uhh, Skyline Drive is only a little over 100 miles long where it ends at Rockfish Gap in Afton, VA. From there the BRP picks up and goes another 350 miles or so. And Thorntons Gap is only about 40 miles south of Front Royal. You might want to get the odometer check out! ;-) Glenn --- MJordan666@XXXXXX wrote: > > > Skyline starts at Front Royal, with the BRP starting > about 320 road miles > south of Front Royal - it's a long day at 35mph. > > An option is to take Skyline from Front Royal to Rt > 211 at Thornton's Gap > (about 110 miles of 35mph) or vice versa. 211 is > worth the trip by itself, if > you like fast sweepers. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 07:38:59 2000 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 04:38:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Reply-To: dysart@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Need good roads To: Kirk Roy , DC-Cycles Mailing List Kirk, don't forget VA 16, VA 311, NC 28 and of course US 129. Glenn --- Kirk Roy wrote: > On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Kirt S. wrote: > > I don't think I'd call 211 "sweepers". There are > some downright sharp > > ass turns on that road. I love it, and wish I > lived closer to it. > > Where are the tight turns on 211? I don't recall > seeing any. 33 has > tighter ones and 250 has tighter still (but the > pavement usually isn't > that great). WV17 (if my memory serves me on the > route #) has ignorantly > tight turns. VA42? Tight. 56? Tight. Etc. These are > all day trippable > roads. Sure, if you want to only do a short run > (under 200 miles) you > might think 211 is tight. For a good day trip (400+ > miles) you can hit > some much better stuff. If you want a longer trip > with tight turns take > the BRP south and try out the intersecting roads. > Just about any of > them will dispel the notion that 211 has anything > tight on it (I'm partial > to NC myself (215, 276, etc)). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 07:46:37 2000 From: "Bob Meyer" To: Subject: RE: Kmart Sells Motorcycles!? Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 07:47:26 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Gawd, it looks like something right out of 1969! I especially like that 4 speed transmission. In the wind, Bob Meyer 1992 ST1100 (Red STag), STOC #1157 ============================================= People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to pick on rich women than biker gangs. > -----Original Message----- > From: Weaver, Chris_(MD) [mailto:CWeaver@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 2:01 PM > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: Kmart Sells Motorcycles!? > > > http://store.bluelight.com/sports-motorcycles---scooters.html > > Chris Weaver > '98 VTR > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 09:38:26 2000 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 06:38:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: More motorcylce songs Perry Coleman has been kind enough to put up the mp3s that I have on his website. You should download them to your computer then play them. They're about 3megs each. Motorbikin by Martha and the Muffins (New Wave) http://www.coleman-services.net/concours/motorbikin.mp3 War of the Superbikes by the Meatmen (DC Hardcore/Punk) http://www.coleman-services.net/concours/war.mp3 New Sensations by Lou Reed (Lou Reed) http://www.coleman-services.net/concours/new%20sensations.mp3 Does anyone have a copy of "Eye of the Hurricane" by David Wilcox they could add to this? "Tank is full, switch is on Night is warm, cops are gone Rocket bike is all her own It's called a hurricane"... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 10:10:02 2000 From: Mark Kitchell To: "'Hugh Caldwell'" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: More motorcylce songs Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:03:34 -0400 Cool! Meatmen Rock! The 'ultimate' motorcycle song is 1952 Vincent Black Lightning by Richard Thompson. Here are the lyrics: Said Red Molly to James that's a fine motorbike, A girl could feel special on any such like Said James to Red Molly, well my hat's off to you It's a Vincent Black Lightning, 1952 And I've seen you at the corners and cafes it seems Red hair and black leather, my favourite colour scheme And he pulled her on behind and down to Boxhill they did ride Said James to Red Molly, here's a ring for your right hand But I'll tell you in earnest I'm a dangerous man I've fought with the law since I was seventeen I robbed many a man to get my Vincent machine Now I'm 21 years, I might make 22 And I don't mind dying, but for the love of you And If fate should break my stride I'll give you my Vincent to ride Come down, come down, Red Molly, called Sergeant McRae For they've taken young James adie for armed robbery Shotgun blast hit his chest, left nothing inside Come down, Red Molly to his dying bedside When she came to the hospital, there wasn't much left He was running out of road, he was running out of breath But he smiled to see her cry Said I'll give you my Vincent to ride Said young James. in my opinion, there's nothing in this world Beats a 52 Vincent and a red headed girl Now Nortons and Indians and Greeves won't do They don't have a soul like a Vincent 52 He reached for her hand and he gave her the keys He said I don't have any further use for these I see angels and ariels in leather and chrome Swooping down from heaven to carry me home He gave her one last kiss and died And he gave her his Vincent to ride. > -----Original Message----- > From: Hugh Caldwell [SMTP:twg@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 9:38 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: More motorcylce songs > > Perry Coleman has been kind enough to put up the mp3s that > I have on his website. You should download them to your > computer then play them. They're about 3megs each. > Motorbikin by Martha and the Muffins (New Wave) > http://www.coleman-services.net/concours/motorbikin.mp3 > War of the Superbikes by the Meatmen (DC Hardcore/Punk) > http://www.coleman-services.net/concours/war.mp3 > New Sensations by Lou Reed (Lou Reed) > http://www.coleman-services.net/concours/new%20sensations.mp3 > > Does anyone have a copy of "Eye of the Hurricane" by > David Wilcox they could add to this? > "Tank is full, switch is on > Night is warm, cops are gone > Rocket bike is all her own > It's called a hurricane"... > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 10:18:04 2000 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 07:17:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Low speed circles, was: Need good roads To: "Kirt S." , dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- "Kirt S." wrote: > Kirk, are you just grinding your footpeg feelers off > in the > "kirkcircles.jpg" pics on your site? > > How fast are you going in those pics? Like 5 mph? > I guess about 11-12 mph. The circles have a 22 ft diameter (18 inside 26 outside), but there are a few extra feet getting to the next circle, 6 laps is the standard for time. Collin holds the current record at 26+ secs. That works out to a little under 12 mph. Leon. --- "Kirt S." wrote: > Kirk, are you just grinding your footpeg feelers off > in the > "kirkcircles.jpg" pics on your site? > > How fast are you going in those pics? Like 5 mph? > > Kirt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kirk Roy" > To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" > > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:42 PM > Subject: Re: Need good roads > > > > On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Kirt S. wrote: > > > I don't think I'd call 211 "sweepers". There > are some downright sharp > > > ass turns on that road. I love it, and wish I > lived closer to it. > > > > Where are the tight turns on 211? I don't recall > seeing any. 33 has > > tighter ones and 250 has tighter still (but the > pavement usually isn't > > that great). WV17 (if my memory serves me on the > route #) has ignorantly > > tight turns. VA42? Tight. 56? Tight. Etc. These > are all day trippable > > roads. Sure, if you want to only do a short run > (under 200 miles) you > > might think 211 is tight. For a good day trip > (400+ miles) you can hit > > some much better stuff. If you want a longer trip > with tight turns take > > the BRP south and try out the intersecting roads. > Just about any of > > them will dispel the notion that 211 has anything > tight on it (I'm partial > > to NC myself (215, 276, etc)). > > > > Kirk > > 2000 Kawasaki KLX300 > (http://planetklx.dirtrider.net) > > 1998 Honda VTR1000 > (http://members.nova.org/~kirk/Kirk1.jpg) > > DCOffroad - the Wash, DC area offroad e-mail list: > > http://www.egroups.com/community/dcoffroad > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 10:29:13 2000 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 10:29:31 -0400 From: Randy Moran X-Accept-Language: en To: Mark Kitchell CC: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: More motorcycle songs I second that vote. That is the coolest bike song ever. And the guitar playing is phenomenal. Randy Moran WERA Novice #696 http://www.geocities.com/rajmoran/ Sponsored by: Whitt's Suzuki of Manassas, VA http://www.speed-werks.com http://www.cortidesign.com Mark Kitchell wrote > > The 'ultimate' motorcycle song is 1952 Vincent Black Lightning by Richard > Thompson. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 10:44:18 2000 From: MJordan666@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:43:56 EDT Subject: Re: Need good roads To: dysart@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX I stand corrected on Skyline - somehow I got Street Atlas sidetracked last night. Paying attention to what I'm doing, Skyline drive comes out at 105 miles top to bottom Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 10:52:35 2000 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 10:52:50 -0400 From: Randy Moran X-Accept-Language: en To: DC Cycles Subject: WERA Races - Summit Point - June 10,11 Just a reminder to everyone that many of your fellow listers will compete this coming weekend in the WERA events at Summit Point. Brian Roach, Danny Thompson, Randy Moran, Sean Jordan (?), Fred (?), and several others will all be on hand to hone their skills in the quest for road racing glory. Racing takes place on both Saturday and Sunday. If you come up, look for bikes 699 and 696 in the pit. I'll have a cold beer waiting for you. There is plenty of free camping space available. As always, it promises to be a great time. Randy Moran WERA Novice #696 http://www.geocities.com/rajmoran/ Sponsored by: Whitt's Suzuki of Manassas, VA http://www.speed-werks.com http://www.cortidesign.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 11:13:18 2000 From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:12:55 EDT Subject: Re: WERA Races - Summit Point - June 10,11 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I'll be there this weekend. I plan on doing the Heavyweight Novice Solo 18 on Saturday, Vintage 6, B Production Novice and B Superbike Novice on Sunday. Anyone know if Jonathon Broga will be out there? -Sean Jordan Sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 11:41:21 2000 Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 11:45:58 -0700 From: Chuck Pena X-Accept-Language: en To: DC Cycles , Suzuki Bikes , parr@XXXXXX Subject: Bike Night 2 reminder Just a reminder to y'all that this Sunday, June 11th is Bike Night 2 at CarPool in Arlington, VA. Everyone is invited. Hope you'll be there. All the info is on the website at http://www.geocities.com/bikenight And Zbig Tyrlik is organizing a pre-event ride (contact him directly at zbig@XXXXXX). Please feel free to cross-post this to other motorcycle lists. Thanx! Chuck Pena, aka Skittles '93 GSXR 750 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 11:50:27 2000 From: eschelzig@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: More motorcycle songs Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:48:18 -0400 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id e56Fock13406 I went looking for an MP3 version of Alro Guthrie's The Motorcycle Song (The Significance of The Pickle), but couldn't find it. Anyone got it? Instead I found this list, which may or may not be from Finland, at http://www.intellitel.com/~jsavola/lista.mp.html. Bests, Erik Allman Brothers: Midnight Rider Alwari Tuohitorvi: Kromikaunotar Arlo Guthrie: The Motorcycle Song (The Significance of a pickle) Backsliders: 50% kaikista kappaleista... Beach Boys: Little Honda ? Blue Öyster Cult: Transmaniacon MC Bob Seger: Against the Wind Bob Seger: The Distance Brigitte Bardot: Harley Davidson CCR: Sweet Hitchiker Cake: Going the distance Canned Heat: Harley Davidson Blues Canned Heat: On the Road Again Charlie Daniels Band: Uneasy Rider Chris Rea: Road To Hell Chris Rea: You Can Go Your Own Way Chris Spedding: Motorbikin´ Chrissie Hynde & Pretenders: Biker Crazy Cavan & Rhythm Rockers: My little sister's gotta motorbike Daddy Longlegs: Motorcycle Dave Lindholm: Ooh Bultaco David Allan Coe: Panheads Forever David Stewart: Motorcycle Mystics Deep Purple: Highwaystar Deep Purple: Speed King Doc Holliday: Last Ride Eppu Normaali: Mopolla tahtiin Freeman: Mopetilla maailmalle Freud Marx Engels & Jung: Mun vanha pannupää Gary Glitter: I´m the Leader of the Gang Hector: Laura ja Ilmari Hurriganes: Ridin´ Ridin´ Iggy Pop: Motorcycle Hanoi Rocks: M.C Baby Iron Maiden: From here to eternity J.J.Cale: Ridin´ Home Jimi Hendrix: Ezy Ryder Jouni Tuokkola: Pyörällä päästään Judas Priest: Turbo Lover Juice Leskinen: Napoleonin mopo Karma: Viimeinen Mutka Klamydia: Mopolla suohon Kris Kristofferson: Rainbow Road Leevi and the Leavings: Tulikuumat pakoputket Liisa Akimof: Miten kauas mopolla pääsee? Lou Reed: Good Sensations Manowar: Wheels Of Fire Meat Loaf: Bat Out of Hell Megadeth: 502 Megadeth: High Speed Dirt Merle Haggard: White Line Fever Metallica: Fuel Michael Parks: Long and Lonesome Highway Mika Sundqvist: Moottoripyörä on moottoripyörä Mitch Ryder: Jenny Take a Ride Moby Grape: Motorcycle Irene Montrose: Bad Motor Scooter Moottorilinnut: Moottorilinnut Motorhead: Iron Horse Muska: Kulman Kingi Ne Luumäet: Texasin moottoripyöräkerho Neil Young: Motorcycle Mama Paul McCartney: Biker Like an Icon Phantom's Opera: Motorcycle Rock Popeda: Pitkä kuuma kesä Queen: Ride the Wild Wind Rehupiikles: Iisiraideri Ricky Valance: Tell Laura I Love Her Roger McQuinn: Ballad of Easy Rider Saxon: Motorcycle Man Saxon: Wheels of Steel Seminaarinmäen Mieslaulajat: Mopedimies Shangri-La´s: Leader of the pack Sleepy Sleepers: Kesämopo Sleepy Sleepers: IC:llä karjalaan Sleepy Sleepers: Saaran Jaava Sleepy Sleepers: Surmanajaja Erkki Vasili Helminen Steppenwolf: Born to be Wild Steppenwolf: Ride With Me Steve Gibbons Band: Riding on a BSA The Beach Boys: My Little Honda The Run Runs: Hey Hey I Love That Sauna Todd Rundgren: Last Ride Twisted Sister: Ride to Live, Live to Ride V2: Mean Machine V2: Ride On Veltto Virtanen: Harley Davidson From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 12:09:48 2000 From: "mobacc" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Major Beltway Crash Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:07:38 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 >From noon news Tuesday -- For those thinking of travelling this pm. 11a Beltway accident -- 3 tractor trailers, 5 vehicles. The inner loop is closed, outer loop restricted at 210/beltway east of Wilson Bridge. Backups said to be in miles both directions, cleanup going to take quite a while. Hope this saves a headache or five. . Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 13:40:41 2000 From: BryanRoach@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:40:24 EDT Subject: Re: WERA Races - Summit Point - June 10,11 To: Randy.Moran@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX 1200 miles of driving the race hauler: $200 (fuel) New slicks: $300 Entry fees: $145 8 gallons of race fuel: $80 Getting run off the track during the first lap in turn 3 at 115mph, rejoining the field in dead last, then racing back up to finish third: Priceless Indy was a long weekend, and damn near involved high-siding a bike at 100mph. Other than that... it was a blast. Two third place finishes running expert times against the locals. Looking forward to Summit - anyone who can make it should go, the weather is supposed to be great. - Roach From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 13:55:08 2000 From: Mark Kitchell To: "'Hugh Caldwell'" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: More motorcylce songs Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:48:12 -0400 Does anyone have the lyrics for War of the Superbikes. Can't turn it up at work... > -----Original Message----- > From: Hugh Caldwell [SMTP:twg@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 9:38 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: More motorcylce songs > > Perry Coleman has been kind enough to put up the mp3s that > I have on his website. You should download them to your > computer then play them. They're about 3megs each. > Motorbikin by Martha and the Muffins (New Wave) > http://www.coleman-services.net/concours/motorbikin.mp3 > War of the Superbikes by the Meatmen (DC Hardcore/Punk) > http://www.coleman-services.net/concours/war.mp3 > New Sensations by Lou Reed (Lou Reed) > http://www.coleman-services.net/concours/new%20sensations.mp3 > > Does anyone have a copy of "Eye of the Hurricane" by > David Wilcox they could add to this? > "Tank is full, switch is on > Night is warm, cops are gone > Rocket bike is all her own > It's called a hurricane"... > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 14:14:44 2000 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 11:14:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: Mark Kitchell cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: More motorcylce songs On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Mark Kitchell wrote: > Does anyone have the lyrics for War of the Superbikes. Can't turn it up at > work... > http://themeatmen.com/lyrics.html ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 15:41:41 2000 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:41:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Need good roads To: "Kirt S." , dc-cycles@XXXXXX 211 is ALL high-speed sweepers with 2 decreasing-radius turns in the mix just to keep you on guard --- "Kirt S." wrote: > I don't think I'd call 211 "sweepers". There are > some downright sharp ass > turns on that road. I love it, and wish I lived > closer to it. > > Ah well...it's an occasional "treat" now... > > Kirt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > > An option is to take Skyline from Front Royal to > Rt 211 at Thornton's Gap > > (about 110 miles of 35mph) or vice versa. 211 is > worth the trip by itself, > if > > you like fast sweepers. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 15:44:44 2000 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:44:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Need good roads To: Kirk Roy , DC-Cycles Mailing List Take it easy on the boy, Kirk....he obviously needs to get out more and see what the area has to offer. Speaking of which....where the F have your been of late? Damn DIRTY Bastard deserted his pavement friends --- Kirk Roy wrote: > On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Kirt S. wrote: > > I don't think I'd call 211 "sweepers". There are > some downright sharp > > ass turns on that road. I love it, and wish I > lived closer to it. > > Where are the tight turns on 211? I don't recall > seeing any. 33 has > tighter ones and 250 has tighter still (but the > pavement usually isn't > that great). WV17 (if my memory serves me on the > route #) has ignorantly > tight turns. VA42? Tight. 56? Tight. Etc. These are > all day trippable > roads. Sure, if you want to only do a short run > (under 200 miles) you > might think 211 is tight. For a good day trip (400+ > miles) you can hit > some much better stuff. If you want a longer trip > with tight turns take > the BRP south and try out the intersecting roads. > Just about any of > them will dispel the notion that 211 has anything > tight on it (I'm partial > to NC myself (215, 276, etc)). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 15:54:02 2000 X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 15:47:31 -0400 To: DC Cycles From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: WERA Races - Summit Point - June 10,11 I should be there on sunday only. Look for 911 in the pits, grey & white TL-R. S At 10:52 AM 6/6/00 -0400, Randy Moran wrote: >Just a reminder to everyone that many of your fellow listers will >compete this coming weekend in the WERA events at Summit Point. Brian >Roach, Danny Thompson, Randy Moran, Sean Jordan (?), Fred (?), and >several others will all be on hand to hone their skills in the quest for >road racing glory. > >Racing takes place on both Saturday and Sunday. If you come up, look for >bikes 699 and 696 in the pit. I'll have a cold beer waiting for you. >There is plenty of free camping space available. As always, it promises >to be a great time. > >Randy Moran >WERA Novice #696 >http://www.geocities.com/rajmoran/ > >Sponsored by: >Whitt's Suzuki of Manassas, VA >http://www.speed-werks.com >http://www.cortidesign.com > > > > Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 6 16:48:15 2000 Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 16:48:07 -0400 From: zbig@XXXXXX To: Chuck Pena Cc: DC Cycles , Suzuki Bikes , parr@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike Night 2 reminder * Chuck Pena (cvkgpena@XXXXXX) [000606 11:55]: > Just a reminder to y'all that this Sunday, June 11th is Bike Night 2 at > CarPool in Arlington, VA. Everyone is invited. Hope you'll be there. > All the info is on the website at > > http://www.geocities.com/bikenight > > And Zbig Tyrlik is organizing a pre-event ride (contact him directly at > zbig@XXXXXX). I will be travelling for the rest of the week. Meeting is at Burger King on Rt 7 between Countryside and Cascades, close to Rt 28 & 7, Sunday 11th, at 9:30. Ride departs at 10:00 sharp. You