From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 1 08:59:44 2005 From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Whats the difference? Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 08:59:30 -0400 That's what I really loved about my old KZ1100. It would smoke 'em from the line or on the top end. Nothing with more than 2 wheels could beat it off the line and only a few "special" cars could take it at the top end, assuming they were crazy enough to try. I had some kids in an early '80's Pontiac Firebird with the 3.1 turbo chase me from Winchester towards Berkeley Springs on 522. I blew by them leaving town and was cruising about 85 when I saw them coming up on me about 10 miles later. As they got closer, I kept easing the speed up until they came beside me. At that point we were doing a little over 100. I just looked over at them, twisted my right wrist and pulled away from them like they were standing still. I was ready to downshift, but that toy turbo was a dog. He was probably maxed out by 110. We were also going uphill, so that may have hurt them. It didn't affect that mad kaw! Perry >From: "Cedric Bernescut" >To: >Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Whats the difference? >Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:33:30 -0400 > >there really is something cathartic about dispatching a cage with >extreme prejudice and very little effort. > >--skip > >A mantra to live by.... > >Cedric Bernescut >2000 CBR600F4 >Annandale, VA > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jul 3 09:41:23 2005 Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 09:41:15 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: David Blumgart Subject: [dc-cycles] Lubing the ignition cylinder At 06:35 PM 6/29/2005 -0400, smthng else wrote: >.... DON'T FORGET >TO LUBE YOUR IGNITION CYLINDER!!!! It seemed to take about a pint of 10-40, but now my bike won't start. Seriously, what should you use to lube an lock/switch? WD-40 DB From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jul 3 10:00:10 2005 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 06:59:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Lubing the ignition cylinder To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Graphite spray. Available at most hardware stores. --- David BlBlumgartmomojohandninameom> wrote: > At 06:35 PM 6/29/2005 -0400, smsmthnglse wrote: > >.... DON'T FORGET > >TO LUBE YOUR IGNITION CYLINDER!!!! > > > It seemed to take about a pint of 10-40, but now my > bike won't start. > > Seriously, what should you use to lube an > lock/switch? WDWD0 > > DB > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jul 3 10:22:23 2005 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:22:18 -0400 From: Michael Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Lubing the ignition cylinder > > Seriously, what should you use to lube an > > lock/switch? WDWD0 > Graphite spray. Available at most hardware stores. Bottom line is do not use anything with an oil base, as it will thoroughly gum up the cylinders and pins. Powdered graphite is the best - available at your abovementioned hardware stores, locksmiths and even WalMart (where they cut keys) -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 USAF (Ret) NRA etc. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jul 3 23:41:32 2005 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:41:22 -0400 From: smthng else To: David Blumgart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Lubing the ignition cylinder Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX On 7/3/05, David Blumgart wrote: > At 06:35 PM 6/29/2005 -0400, smthng else wrote: > >.... DON'T FORGET > >TO LUBE YOUR IGNITION CYLINDER!!!! > Seriously, what should you use to lube an lock/switch? WD-40 I'm a Yamaha freak, so my recommendations are somewhat one sided... Best for locks and electrical bits... Yamaha Silicone Protectant and Lubricant. $6.95 Best for just about everything else, but also satisfactory for locks (IMO)... Yamaha Lube-Zall. $5.95 --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 5 13:09:05 2005 From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:08:55 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] Saw two bike incidents this weekend :( Not sure if anyone involved is on the list, or if anyone knows them. Just wanted to share what I saw and hope that everyone is ok. Saturday, 7/2. Riding down Bowie Mill Road to turn left onto Muncaster Mill Road about 9:00 PM. Looks like a Pick up rear ended a Red CBR600 F(something). Bike was upright. Drivers were exchanging info. Stopped to see if they were ok and needed a cell. Driver said it's ok and no thanks. Didn't look like it was at much of a speed, so hopefully damage is minimal. Last night, 7/4. Riding down North/West Bound Middlebrook Road to take 270 South, about 9:30 PM. Area was light up like a dance club with Fire, Police, and Ambulance attending to someone on the shoulder/sidewalk on the other side of the road. I saw a sport bike laying on its side in the road and they had all traffic blocked. I don't know any particulars. Hope you're ok. Be careful out there, everyone. Rob '98 VFR800 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 5 13:16:01 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Saw two bike incidents this weekend :( Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:15:53 -0400 I saw a Medivac on Skyline at 211 on Sunday 7/3. Not sure if a bike(s) was involved, but there were a lot out that day. A lot of Harleys, I think most of the sport crowd was at Summit Point for the races. >From: "Rob Keiser" >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: [dc-cycles] Saw two bike incidents this weekend :( >Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:08:55 -0400 > >Not sure if anyone involved is on the list, or if anyone knows them. Just >wanted to share what I saw and hope that everyone is ok. > >Saturday, 7/2. Riding down Bowie Mill Road to turn left onto Muncaster >Mill Road about 9:00 PM. Looks like a Pick up rear ended a Red CBR600 >F(something). Bike was upright. Drivers were exchanging info. Stopped to >see if they were ok and needed a cell. Driver said it's ok and no thanks. >Didn't look like it was at much of a speed, so hopefully damage is minimal. > >Last night, 7/4. Riding down North/West Bound Middlebrook Road to take 270 >South, about 9:30 PM. Area was light up like a dance club with Fire, >Police, and Ambulance attending to someone on the shoulder/sidewalk on the >other side of the road. I saw a sport bike laying on its side in the road >and they had all traffic blocked. I don't know any particulars. Hope >you're ok. > >Be careful out there, everyone. > >Rob >'98 VFR800 > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 5 13:20:41 2005 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:20:11 -0400 From: skip CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Saw two bike incidents this weekend :( I had an interesting experience on 211 yesterday... 3 people (cages) pulled over and waved me by. made for a nice ride down. --skip rich hall wrote: > > I saw a Medivac on Skyline at 211 on Sunday 7/3. Not sure if a bike(s) was > involved, but there were a lot out that day. A lot of Harleys, I think most > of the sport crowd was at Summit Point for the races. > > >From: "Rob Keiser" > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >Subject: [dc-cycles] Saw two bike incidents this weekend :( > >Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 13:08:55 -0400 > > > >Not sure if anyone involved is on the list, or if anyone knows them. Just > >wanted to share what I saw and hope that everyone is ok. > > > >Saturday, 7/2. Riding down Bowie Mill Road to turn left onto Muncaster > >Mill Road about 9:00 PM. Looks like a Pick up rear ended a Red CBR600 > >F(something). Bike was upright. Drivers were exchanging info. Stopped to > >see if they were ok and needed a cell. Driver said it's ok and no thanks. > >Didn't look like it was at much of a speed, so hopefully damage is minimal. > > > >Last night, 7/4. Riding down North/West Bound Middlebrook Road to take 270 > >South, about 9:30 PM. Area was light up like a dance club with Fire, > >Police, and Ambulance attending to someone on the shoulder/sidewalk on the > >other side of the road. I saw a sport bike laying on its side in the road > >and they had all traffic blocked. I don't know any particulars. Hope > >you're ok. > > > >Be careful out there, everyone. > > > >Rob > >'98 VFR800 > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 5 19:08:07 2005 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:07:55 -0400 From: Aaron Maurer To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Draggin' jeans or similar I'm looking for a pair of pants that offer some better resistance to injury than plain old denim. "Draggin' Jeans" brand have been mentioned quite a bit in another forum that I frequent. Does anyone have a pair? Care to comment? Also, I'm looking for a pair of riding pants for my girlfriend - who is a size 2-4. Riding gear for women is very difficult to find. Any suggestions from those in the know? Jay? Lisa? Thanks, Aaron From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 5 19:21:48 2005 Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:21:29 -0400 To: DC-Cycles From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Draggin' jeans or similar At 07:07 PM 7/5/2005, Aaron Maurer wrote: >I'm looking for a pair of pants that offer some better resistance to >injury than plain old denim. "Draggin' Jeans" brand have been >mentioned quite a bit in another forum that I frequent. Does anyone >have a pair? Care to comment? > >Also, I'm looking for a pair of riding pants for my girlfriend - who >is a size 2-4. Riding gear for women is very difficult to find. Any >suggestions from those in the know? Jay? Lisa? > >Thanks, > >Aaron I've got a pair as well as their kevlar shirt. Couple of comments: 1. The jeans need to be *tight* in order for it to be even remotely effective. If they're loose, the kevlar knee pad will slide to the side and expose your kneecap to an unprotected part of the jean. 2. The jeans, especially the kevlar areas, do *not* breathe. On a hot day, you'll notice the added heat retention. 3. They do *nothing* to protect you from hard surfaces. 4. Are they worth it? They better than just plain ole jeans but not by a huge factor. If you want to wear jeans, then they're better than nothing. -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 5 20:25:57 2005 Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1970 20:42:51 -0500 From: Bob McKeithen To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: [dc-cycles] note to: C. Custer et al (longish) I've not been hiding out-- just returned from riding the circumference of Ireland. My wife and I flew to London the night of the 19th of June (Saturday) and arrived at our pub/hotel mid morning on Sunday. Lollygagged around London on Sunday-couldn't pick up the rental bile 'til Monday. The rental place was just up the street from the pub and was supposed to open at 8:30AM, but the guy didn't post until 10. However the bike was ready as promised. He had kindly added racks for my three Givi bags, so all we had to do was pop them on the bike. The bike: We rented a Honda CBF 500. I wanted something smallish so we could do any back road we wanted. It is a water-cooled verticle twin. The power was adequate, but the riders seat was brutally uncomfortable. My wife didn't complain about hers at all. Although we didn't spend very much time on the motorway when we did the poor thing was churning it's little twin cylinder heart out. 70 mph=6000 rpm in sixth gear. With the two biggish bags on the sides I was still able to split lanes and filter in Monday AM London traffic on the way out of town. In any case, I should have listened to the rental guy. He wanted to rent me a Honda Deauville-- a nice partially faired smallish tourer--water cooled V-twin. It would have been small enough for the small roads, but much better on the motorway. Note to self--listen to the experts. Roads: Larger roads were well paved and smooth. Smaller roads tended to be patch upon patch which made them bumpy. And they were narrow, very narrow. Many times when meeting another vehicle my shoulders would be touching the roadside hedges. Sight lines were often limited by either high stone walls and/or hedges. Drivers: I wish folks around here could go over there and take a few lessons. Lane discipline on the motorways is wonderful. In dense city traffic people will let you in line. The bottom line is that in two weeks of operating a motorcycle and almost 1800s miles I never had to take an emergency action. Scenery: Spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!! Food: You don't go to Ireland for the food. Bob From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 5 20:31:57 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Draggin' jeans or similar Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 20:31:49 -0400 I'm on my 2nd pair, 1st pair was too tight, for my liking, dad has them now. The "Utility" are wide legged and they wrap the knee in kevlar, so it can't slide to the side. Draggin Jeans seems to know what they are doing. I hope to never test them though. >From: Aki Damme >To: DC-Cycles >Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Draggin' jeans or similar >Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 19:21:29 -0400 > >1. The jeans need to be *tight* in order for it to be even remotely >effective. If they're loose, the kevlar knee pad >will slide to the side and expose your kneecap to an unprotected part of >the jean. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 5 22:31:46 2005 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:31:39 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Draggin' jeans or similar To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >is a size 2-4. Riding gear for women is very difficult to find. Joe Rocket has a woman's line. they should have ballistic/phoenix pants in the right sizes. > 1. The jeans need to be *tight* in order for it to be even remotely > effective. If they're loose, the kevlar knee pad > will slide to the side and expose your kneecap to an unprotected > part of the jean. they must have changed the design. I had one of the early editions and the kevlar patch was sewn into the garment. It was going nowhere. > 2. The jeans, especially the kevlar areas, do *not* breathe. On a > hot day, you'll notice the added heat retention. Didn't notice it that much really. Jeans are just junk to wear for anything though. Weather Survival 101 teaches you that cotton has got to be the worst thing to wear. If I'm stupid enough to wear jeans, I make sure I'm wearing biking shorts underneath. > 3. They do *nothing* to protect you from hard surfaces. no kidding. > 4. Are they worth it? They better than just plain ole jeans but not > by a huge factor. If you want to wear jeans, then > they're better than nothing. I wear armored overpants over EVERYTHING including draggin' jeans. The jeans reduced the amount of knee trauma during my accident a few years ago but the concrete ripped right thru my ballistic overpants, grabbed the CE armor out of it's pocket and slashed it's way thru the Kevlar and into the flesh. I concluded that Draggin' Jeans were definately not worth the $70/pair. Save your money, buy some Phoenix/Ballistic pants and some CE armor and just wear it all the time. If you gotta lose the overpants in order to pose and have that all elusive "bad-ass cool" street cred, just bring along a backpack to stuff the overpants into it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jul 7 20:14:37 2005 From: To: Subject: Re: Re: [dc-cycles] Draggin' jeans or similar Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 7:55:57 -0400 > > From: matthew patton > Date: 2005/07/05 Tue PM 10:31:39 EDT > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Draggin' jeans or similar > > > >is a size 2-4. Riding gear for women is very difficult to find. > > Joe Rocket has a woman's line. they should have ballistic/phoenix pants > in the right sizes. > > > 1. The jeans need to be *tight* in order for it to be even remotely > > effective. If they're loose, the kevlar knee pad > > will slide to the side and expose your kneecap to an unprotected > > part of the jean. > > they must have changed the design. I had one of the early editions and > the kevlar patch was sewn into the garment. It was going nowhere. ..as do my pair. However, the patch doesn't go all the way around behind the knee. Consequently, if the jeans are too loose around the knee, the jeans can twist enough to expose the kneecap to an area that isn't kevlar covered. Also, since the jeans are made basically the same as any other pair of jeans except for the kevlar pads, if you hit the pavement at any point other than your knee or your butt, you can literally tear the jeans off you, making the kevlar enforced points a moot point. Now, if they had lined the entire jean with *breathable* kevlar with removable pucks at the knees, THAT would of been cool. That would enable me to keep my stunning, yet intimidating Harley Personna while still keeping safety in mind. ;-) -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jul 7 20:15:35 2005 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:16:25 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: roadrunnaz@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] under padding continued so here's what i decided to go with: 1 Large:EVS 2005 Ultimate Riding Short PP05-L $45.00 $45.00 http://www.motoworldracing.com/EVS-2005-Ultimate-Riding-Short.html 1 Black XLarge:EVS 2005 Ballistic Jerseys BJ22 BJ22-BLK-XL $134.10 $134.10 http://www.mtbz.com/mountainboard_accessories/evs_bj2.htm Subtotal $179.10 Shipping: UPS Ground (Lower 48 States) $0.00 Tax Total: No Tax (0.00%) $0.00 Total $179.10 After watching my almost 2 year old terror of a son summersault over the top of the couch on to a full diaper without a scratch, I decided, hey that could be useful in an ugly get-off. The lightbulb went off.. gel packed depends! just kidding that's a total fictional story i made up. but it sounded entertaining Here's my thought process: So far all of my 5 or 6 dismounts have been rather minor where I could painlessly or slightly sorely ride off. I'd like to keep it that way! (ok one small highside where the broken chain caught in the sprocket/swingarm, but if not for that, i'd ride off) First off, my goal is to lessen the amount of injury I could incur. I don't believe enough gear will make you invulnerable, I think it would be foolish to think that. I'm not expecting padding to help in a major accident, but I want to be less sore after the minor get offs. Change a hard bruising/slight fracture, into just a thump. Scots poet Robert Burns (1759-1796): "The best-laid plans of mice and men Gang aft agley (=often go wrong). And leave us naught but grief and pain For promised joy." so of course now i'm probably jinxed for promised doom. now back to the regularly scheduled post; So I said, what do the dirtbikers/motocrossers wear for impact..and began my quest. originally my quest was for knee protection.. padding vs brace (and padding) to prevent hyperextension .. google newsgrouped the discussion.. read testimonials how braces saved people.. was pretty much sold.. then read how it's actually better to have knee damage than transfer it to femur damage (snap) where your bone could severe an artery, causing you to bleed to death, or oxegen starve the brain for permenant damage... so i'm back to the knee padding side of the fence, or maybe a weak brace with padding. (best of both worlds?). I know I want the padding to extend up the thigh somewhat to prevent the handle bars from pounding my legs in some kind of get-offs.. should something like that occur. So no purchase on that just yet. I've had a small highside, and a low side, where i've landed on my hip.. with the leather jacket the only thing to cushion the blow. It helped a little.. but I still was sore a few days. I want to prevent that again, wether i'm in jeans or leathers.. so my quest begain for some pants/shorts. I was hoping shorts existed that covereed the front of the thighs as well as the sides, but didn't see anything.. so I settled to just be complacent on padding my hips for now. I didn't like the way the bohn shorts tail bone padding seemed triangular, but the EVS shorts tail bone padding looked vertically rectangular, so it seemed like it defintely couldn't get out of place Ever slip on some steps and bruise your tail bone? OUCH. So anyway i wanted that protection too in the shorts. Plus they were cheaper. I figure i'll give them a shot. If I don't like them I'll get the bohns shorts next..probably.. or some pants setup. So I settled for no thigh protection in the hopes i can find some shin/knee gaurds that will extend upwards. at least halfway up my thigh. (maybe I should have gotten bohns or dianese fishnet type of pants). So anyway enough on the shorts. I occassionaly switch between perforated and non perforated jackets depending on the weather and temperature. Two different jackets, and the elbow padding seems not as well made in one, so that's in the back of my mind.. And neither jacket has any chest protection. Having had a friend recently break ribs and puncture lung, and I know that I never want a tube down my throat or in me anywhere for that matter (jinx again), so I want to add some type of protection for the chest and back (hmm what do dirtbikers wear). so anyway I came across the EVS BJ22 upper body armour, while I was searching for knee braces. Seemed like it would do the job that I wanted.. lessen my chance of injury in certain currently unprotected areas. So it will be wore under my leather 99% of the time. I might wear it solo on a 100 degree holiday when i'm going to be doing 10 mph in city traffic. I'm waiting for the day they design a totally encompasing perforated hard outter shell, with joints and such, perferated inner padding and a/c . :) So that's why I decided to buy those things. I figure the evs vest is better than joe rocket mesh crap too. probably better sliding on plastic than ripped off mesh. Feel free to enlighten me if you know better than I do, on any of this stuff.. - Danny "why no.. this isnt' a daiper i'm wearing but thanks for asking" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jul 7 20:24:35 2005 Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Draggin' jeans or similar Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 09:56:37 -0400 From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "DC-Cycles" Aaron: I haven't had the chance to test the Draggin Jeans myself but I would also put in a vote for overpants. I find they have better armor and skin protection as well as being easily applied over work clothes. I recommend the FirstGear HyperTex pants as they have decent padding and I accidentally discovered last night that they're pretty waterproof; alas, my Phoenix jacket was not as resistant to precipitation :( I also have a really nice set of Fieldsheer mesh pants with CE armor that doesn't move at all. However, due to a serious design flaw, they are incompatible with cheeseburgers and beer, thus the waist no longer fits. Though my wife has no interest in riding, I bookmarked this site in case it could be of use. It has a number of reviews of women's riding gear as well as a number of sources for it. http://www.webbikeworld.com/women-motorcycle-clothing/ Cedric Bernescut 2000 CBR600F4 Annandale, VA "Draggin' Jeans" brand have been mentioned quite a bit in another forum that I frequent. Does anyone have a pair? Care to comment? Riding gear for women is very difficult to find. Any suggestions from those in the know? Jay? Lisa? Thanks, Aaron From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jul 7 20:26:20 2005 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:26:34 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: roadrunnaz@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] underpadding pt 3 http://www.motoworldracing.com/EVS-2005-Ultimate-Riding-Short.html oh yea, that 179 price was for both items at motoracingworld.com I figure it'll be easily worth it, especially if it's the deciding factor (in a minor getofff) between going home, or going to the hospital with pain. I'm going to keep my reciepts as well.. so insurance can reimburse me for anything if it gets even a minor scrape or tear, and i'll be really glad I bought the stuff. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jul 7 20:28:16 2005 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:00:04 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: roadrunnaz@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] slow today? Leg padding? thinking about things to wear under jeans... http://www.mtbz.com/mountainboard_accessories/evs_pp05.htm and kneepads... or the long pants version with knee padding built in... anyone have any of this? or know a better price or product? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jul 7 21:35:12 2005 From: "W.S." To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 19:00:10 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] Key Blank filled Re my difficult keyblank: AA Locksmith at 2401 Columbia Pike did the job in a helpful, courteous way. A few minutes of skillful attention was required to modify an on-hand blank, getting the job done. At a standard fee, which I supplemented. Thanks to Cedric Bernescut who says they did well by him also. Bill S. / DC (on digest) '99 VN750 > I'm now less fearful of using the cable lock, said Tom securely. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jul 7 22:07:29 2005 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 06:17:16 -0400 From: smthng else To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Draggin' jeans or similar On 7/5/05, Aaron Maurer wrote: > Also, I'm looking for a pair of riding pants for my girlfriend - who > is a size 2-4. Riding gear for women is very difficult to find. Any > suggestions from those in the know? Jay? Lisa? I have no suggestions on the jeans, but for the ladies gear, check out New Enough. They tend to carry the full size range of ladies gear and I snagged both the JR Ballistic and Pheonix pants for my wife (also quite small). They were too long, but JR doesn't make anything in short leg sizes for the ladies that I'm aware of. But, with a good pair of boots, it doesn't really matter. Sorry if I'm squishing toes... I'm not affiliated, just a happy customer. --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jul 7 22:25:21 2005 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:22:00 -0400 From: Bob McKeithen To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: [dc-cycles] Fwd: note to: C. Custer et al (longish) > Subject: note to: C. Custer et al (longish) > > I've not been hiding out-- just returned from riding the circumference > of Ireland. > My wife and I flew to London the night of the 19th of June (Saturday) > and arrived at our pub/hotel mid morning on Sunday. Lollygagged around > London on Sunday-couldn't pick up the rental bile 'til Monday. > The rental place was just up the street from the pub and was supposed > to open at 8:30AM, but the guy didn't post until 10. However the bike > was ready as promised. He had kindly added racks for my three Givi > bags, so all we had to do was pop them on the bike. > The bike: We rented a Honda CBF 500. I wanted something smallish so we > could do any back road we wanted. It is a water-cooled verticle twin. > The power was adequate, but the riders seat was brutally > uncomfortable. My wife didn't complain about hers at all. Although we > didn't spend very much time on the motorway when we did the poor thing > was churning it's little twin cylinder heart out. 70 mph=6000 rpm in > sixth gear. With the two biggish bags on the sides I was still able to > split lanes and filter in Monday AM London traffic on the way out of > town. In any case, I should have listened to the rental guy. He wanted > to rent me a Honda Deauville-- a nice partially faired smallish > tourer--water cooled V-twin. It would have been small enough for the > small roads, but much better on the motorway. Note to self--listen to > the experts. > Roads: Larger roads were well paved and smooth. Smaller roads tended > to be patch upon patch which made them bumpy. And they were narrow, > very narrow. Many times when meeting another vehicle my shoulders > would be touching the roadside hedges. Sight lines were often limited > by either high stone walls and/or hedges. > Drivers: I wish folks around here could go over there and take a few > lessons. Lane discipline on the motorways is wonderful. In dense city > traffic people will let you in line. The bottom line is that in two > weeks of operating a motorcycle and almost 1800s miles I never had to > take an emergency action. > Scenery: Spectacular!!!!!!!!!!!! > Food: You don't go to Ireland for the food. > > Bob > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 8 13:43:25 2005 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 13:44:25 -0400 From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org \(E-mail\)" Subject: [dc-cycles] Gotta love the Italians Photo taken at the Ducati press conference from the races at Laguna Seca: http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2005mgp/lagunaseca/3/wined.htm Cedric Bernescut 2000 CBR600F4 Annandale, VA From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 8 15:33:22 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:33:15 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] My day in court I went to court today for my "reckless driving". 70 in a 35 at the main Dulles Toll Plaza heading towards DC. (Channel 4 ran something about this on Monday night, look out there) The trooper said I wasn't driving "recklessly", yet looked dumbfounded, when I asked wasn't it up to him & couldn't he simply give me speeding. Noob. I'm not of fan of lawyers, my folks made me get one for my first ticket, all he got was the fine waved, which was less than his fee. Since then, I've gotten every charge reduced or dropped. I went to the DMV, got a copy of my record (+5). Went to traffic school at NVCC, heard judges didn't like the online schools. Was told by a cop (not sure of jurisdiction) to talk to the DA, if I didn't like his deal, come back w/ a lawyer. Seemed like a good way to test the waters. I get there early today. I'm the second to enter the court room. I listen to a lawyer tell the bailiff of Fairfax County Courtroom 1B a sexist joke, then a racist joke. Classy, good ol' boys. Why didn't I get a lawyer? So I figure out who's the DA. I try to figure out how the racist, er lawyers do their thing. I approach, ask to talk about my case. DA asks if I'm a lawyer, I say no, he says he can't talk to me. Wait, I was told by a cop that I could. Says to talk to the judge. The judge I get isn't one of the two (O'flarity & White) I'm told to avoid. He says you can plead guilty, no contest, come up then, he'll decide your penatly. Or you can plead not guilty and wait until the end to plead your case. I decide I'm saying not guilty. Let's review, I'm charged w/ "reckless", trooper said I wasn't "reckless". I watch the guitly get their fines, Judge Minor basically gives them out based on your previous record, if you've been good, might be waved. No real complaint's w/ him. Seemed like most reckless charges were getting $250, which isn't TOO bad. My turn, I go up there, make my case. Judge says he'll reduce the charge to speeding, no reduction in speed, because of my +5 record & having gone to traffic school (he didn't even ask to see the form) he'll reduce my fine from $200 to $100. I've gone from reckless, which would be on my record for 11 YEARS to speeding over 20 over, which is only 5 years, 6 points. I talked to a girl while waiting to pay my fine & court cost ($57), she went after me for the same thing, cept 62mph and had a +3 record. She got her's reduced to speeding, but a $200 fine. Then an older lady came in, she was clocked, same place, same twerp, doing 64mph on her way to the police officer in G'town that was shot's funeral. She had a lawyer. He got it down to 19mph over, which is still on her record for 5 years, but is only 4 points, not 6 point. So for ~$1500 I could've saved 2 points. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 8 19:21:13 2005 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 19:37:18 -0400 From: Bob McKeithen To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: [dc-cycles] Re: Draggin' Jeans They are better than nothing. I crashed a pair and am convinced that they decreased the severity of my injuries. That said, the big draw-back for me is cost. Since I am a daily rider and had to wash them a couple of times a week the denim wears out pretty quickly. I eventually realized that I would go through four pairs a year. A decent pair of real riding pants would wind up costing less, offer more protection, and last way longer. As always YMMV Bob From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jul 9 18:55:50 2005 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 18:55:41 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: roadrunnaz@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] airbag vest. discuss http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6750&item=7984538855&rd=1 who wants to be the ginea pig? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jul 9 21:26:43 2005 Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 21:26:29 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: roadrunnaz@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Bikejacking - 01 gsxr 1000 black/silver NEON PINK WHEELS Bikejacking - 01 gsxr 1000 black/silver NEON PINK WHEELS and some stickers are neon pink also, being ridden by a male. ( a female owns the bike) A second bike was jacked at the same time, a blue/white 03 gsxr 1000. bikes were said to have been seen at minnesota avenue and benning road areas. If you see this bike or both call the police immediately. Danny 240-353-9175 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jul 10 06:01:04 2005 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 06:00:53 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Re: *beep beep* Bikejacking - 01 gsxr 1000 black/silver NEON PINK WHEELS Well one of the bikes was recovered. The black with hot pink wheels. The idiot that robbed her for the bike decided to ride it around down U street in DC, and the previous owner (a bouncer) apprehended the robber. The suspect was about 20 years old, 140 pounds or so. That's all I heard. The second robber got away on the 04 blue/white gsxr 1000. It has a "GPS" brand steering damper over the tripple tree and micron pipe. They were stolen from laurel MD, rt1 and maine street. I heard word of like 2 or 3 other sport bike jackings recently. Mainly in DC. On 7/9/05, Danny Motorcycle wrote: > Bikejacking - 01 gsxr 1000 black/silver NEON PINK WHEELS > and some stickers are neon pink also, being ridden by a male. > ( a female owns the bike) > > A second bike was jacked at the same time, a blue/white 03 gsxr 1000. > > bikes were said to have been seen at minnesota avenue and benning road > areas. > > If you see this bike or both call the police immediately. > > Danny > 240-353-9175 > > > To get outta this group send a message to: > roadrunnaz-unsubscribe@XXXXXX > > BUT WHY? WE ARE THE BEST! > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Beep beep Fun Dvd region free > Region free dvd player > ________________________________ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "roadrunnaz" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > roadrunnaz-unsubscribe@XXXXXX > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > roadrunnaz-unsubscribe@XXXXXX > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > ________________________________ > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 11 07:19:38 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:19:20 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Spam-Flag: NO Subject: [dc-cycles] MD to AK to MD Well we are back. Just a quick summary for now, there will be _much_ more later. 11,506 mi. on odometer. + about 30 mi. with a broken speedometer cable. + About 500 mi. on 3 ferries. For a total of about 12,035 mi. in 40 days. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 11 08:53:33 2005 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:53:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] MD to AK to MD To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX 300 miles a day, decent. Glenn --- PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > Well we are back. Just a quick summary for now, > there will be _much_ more > later. > > 11,506 mi. on odometer. > + about 30 mi. with a broken speedometer cable. > + About 500 mi. on 3 ferries. > > For a total of about 12,035 mi. in 40 days. > > John. > PenguinBiker@XXXXXX > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 11 08:55:00 2005 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 05:54:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] airbag vest. discuss To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX That's pathetic. --- Danny Motorcycle wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6750&item=7984538855&rd=1 > > who wants to be the ginea pig? > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 11 10:01:12 2005 From: To: Subject: Re: Re: [dc-cycles] airbag vest. discuss Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:00:52 -0400 I could just picture myself forgetting about the releases and jumping off my bike and ballooning up like the Michellan Man infront of all my "bad ass" Harley dudes. I'd go through 50 co2 cartridges in the first week. *sigh* -aki > > From: Glenn Dysart > Date: 2005/07/11 Mon AM 08:54:48 EDT > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] airbag vest. discuss > > That's pathetic. > > --- Danny Motorcycle wrote: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6750&item=7984538855&rd=1 > > > > who wants to be the ginea pig? > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: > http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 11 10:09:12 2005 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:08:50 -0400 From: skip To: adamme1@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] airbag vest. discuss that's exactly what I thought of. but it's not a bad idea... adamme1@XXXXXX wrote: > > I could just picture myself forgetting about the releases > and jumping off my bike and ballooning up like the Michellan Man infront of all my "bad ass" Harley dudes. > > I'd go through 50 co2 cartridges in the first week. *sigh* > > -aki > > > > > From: Glenn Dysart > > Date: 2005/07/11 Mon AM 08:54:48 EDT > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] airbag vest. discuss > > > > That's pathetic. > > > > --- Danny Motorcycle wrote: > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6750&item=7984538855&rd=1 > > > > > > who wants to be the ginea pig? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Yahoo! Mail > > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: > > http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 11 11:10:24 2005 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:09:38 -0400 From: Aaron Maurer To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Speedometer calibration A friend of mine recently got popped for 90 mph in a 55 mph zone on his bike, near Winchester, VA. According to everyone he's talked to (including the judge, bailliff, and clerk of court at the arraignment) he's looking at a real possibility of jail time, notwithstanding this is his first moving violation. Obviously, he's getting a lawyer and has several recommendations already. He'd also like to: 1) get his speedo calibrated; and 2) take an ERC course. He'll look to the MSF website for the ERC, but the speedo issue is more difficult to track down. I know that I had a difficult enough time of it with my car. Can anyone recommend a location that will calibrate the speedometer of a bike? Thanks, Aaron From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 11 12:02:38 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Speedometer calibration Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:02:26 -0400 I'd take Traffic School too and not an on-line version. I wanted to take an ERC before my court date, but couldn't find one. As for the speedo, everything I've heard says they normally read faster than you're actually going, which wouldn't help. I wouldn't waste the money. >From: Aaron Maurer >Reply-To: Aaron Maurer >To: DC-Cycles >Subject: [dc-cycles] Speedometer calibration >Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:09:38 -0400 > >A friend of mine recently got popped for 90 mph in a 55 mph zone on >his bike, near Winchester, VA. According to everyone he's talked to >(including the judge, bailliff, and clerk of court at the arraignment) >he's looking at a real possibility of jail time, notwithstanding this >is his first moving violation. > >Obviously, he's getting a lawyer and has several recommendations already. > >He'd also like to: 1) get his speedo calibrated; and 2) take an ERC >course. He'll look to the MSF website for the ERC, but the speedo >issue is more difficult to track down. I know that I had a difficult >enough time of it with my car. > >Can anyone recommend a location that will calibrate the speedometer of a >bike? > >Thanks, > >Aaron > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 11 12:19:48 2005 From: "Dave Yates" To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:19:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Speedometer calibration Aaron M relayed his tale of woe... A friend of mine recently got popped for 90 mph in a 55 mph zone ... He'd also like to: 1) get his speedo calibrated; and 2) take an ERC course. [Dave] Probably wasted money on the speedo. That might help if you were close to 80, the 'hard' reckless threshold, or 75 the '20 over' mark. Alas, your friend is not. If the lawyer recommends driver training as a way to mitigate the charge, then have your friend ask if moto specific class is what he wants, OR the DMV "driver reeducation propaganda course". Your friend is probably better served to ante up extra funds to the lawyer to actually challenge and fight your friend's criminal charge - motions for discovery, challenging the sufficiency of the evidence, commonwealth's chief (probably only) witness, etc. Not to mention that generally speaking moto speedometers are more often than not WAY optimistic - meaning it probably read close to 100 for that 90 mph performance award... Most importantly, I don't think anybody is going to fib on a calibration and it probably wouldn't go in your friend's favor. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 11 14:11:04 2005 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:10:29 -0400 From: Aaron Maurer To: Dave Yates Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Speedometer calibration Cc: DC-Cycles Rich and Dave are right on for this one... speedo is optimistic (reads higher than his actual speed), not pessimistic (which would be helpful in court). Oh well. On 7/11/05, Dave Yates wrote: > Aaron M relayed his tale of woe... > > A friend of mine recently got popped for 90 mph in a 55 mph zone ... > > He'd also like to: 1) get his speedo calibrated; and 2) take an ERC > course. > > [Dave] Probably wasted money on the speedo. That might help if you were close to 80, the 'hard' reckless threshold, or 75 the '20 over' mark. Alas, your friend is not. If the lawyer recommends driver training as a way to mitigate the charge, then have your friend ask if moto specific class is what he wants, OR the DMV "driver reeducation propaganda course". Your friend is probably better served to ante up extra funds to the lawyer to actually challenge and fight your friend's criminal charge - motions for discovery, challenging the sufficiency of the evidence, commonwealth's chief (probably only) witness, etc. > > Not to mention that generally speaking moto speedometers are more often than not WAY optimistic - meaning it probably read close to 100 for that 90 mph performance award... Most importantly, I don't think anybody is going to fib on a calibration and it probably wouldn't go in your friend's favor. > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 11 23:43:23 2005 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:43:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Speedometer calibration To: Aaron Maurer , DC-Cycles fast lane did this a few years back --tg --- Aaron Maurer wrote: > A friend of mine recently got popped for 90 mph in a 55 > mph zone on > his bike, near Winchester, VA. According to everyone > he's talked to > (including the judge, bailliff, and clerk of court at the > arraignment) > he's looking at a real possibility of jail time, > notwithstanding this > is his first moving violation. > > Obviously, he's getting a lawyer and has several > recommendations already. > > He'd also like to: 1) get his speedo calibrated; and 2) > take an ERC > course. He'll look to the MSF website for the ERC, but > the speedo > issue is more difficult to track down. I know that I had > a difficult > enough time of it with my car. > > Can anyone recommend a location that will calibrate the > speedometer of a bike? > > Thanks, > > Aaron > > Tom Gimer - 301 675-3980 (cell) - http://www.murphygimer.com - http://www.mgtitlellc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 11 23:44:24 2005 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:44:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Speedometer calibration To: rich hall , dc-cycles@XXXXXX ah, but i've heard of bikes reading ~17 mph under. --- rich hall wrote: > I'd take Traffic School too and not an on-line version. > I wanted to take an > ERC before my court date, but couldn't find one. > > As for the speedo, everything I've heard says they > normally read faster than > you're actually going, which wouldn't help. I wouldn't > waste the money. > > >From: Aaron Maurer > >Reply-To: Aaron Maurer > >To: DC-Cycles > >Subject: [dc-cycles] Speedometer calibration > >Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:09:38 -0400 > > > >A friend of mine recently got popped for 90 mph in a 55 > mph zone on > >his bike, near Winchester, VA. According to everyone > he's talked to > >(including the judge, bailliff, and clerk of court at > the arraignment) > >he's looking at a real possibility of jail time, > notwithstanding this > >is his first moving violation. > > > >Obviously, he's getting a lawyer and has several > recommendations already. > > > >He'd also like to: 1) get his speedo calibrated; and > 2) take an ERC > >course. He'll look to the MSF website for the ERC, but > the speedo > >issue is more difficult to track down. I know that I > had a difficult > >enough time of it with my car. > > > >Can anyone recommend a location that will calibrate the > speedometer of a > >bike? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Aaron > > > > > Tom Gimer - 301 675-3980 (cell) - http://www.murphygimer.com - http://www.mgtitlellc.com ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions )B– no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 12 08:42:08 2005 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:41:55 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Speedometer calibration Cc: rich hall , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Or even if it does read wildly optimistic because of a loose wire..."i knew i wasn't doing 200 mph as it said, and since i was goingaround the flow of traffic, i figured i was probably doing 10 over" doens't sound too unreasonable..to convict him of something lesser.. give school.. etc.. big diffeence between thumbing your nose at the law and making a mistake.. On 7/11/05, Tom Gimer wrote:> ah, but i've heard of bikes reading ~17 mph under. > > > --- rich hall wrote:> > > I'd take Traffic School too and not an on-line version.> > I wanted to take an> > ERC before my court date, but couldn't find one.> >> > As for the speedo, everything I've heard says they> > normally read faster than> > you're actually going, which wouldn't help. I wouldn't> > waste the money.> >> > >From: Aaron Maurer > > >Reply-To: Aaron Maurer > > >To: DC-Cycles > > >Subject: [dc-cycles] Speedometer calibration> > >Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:09:38 -0400> > >> > >A friend of mine recently got popped for 90 mph in a 55> > mph zone on> > >his bike, near Winchester, VA. According to everyone> > he's talked to> > >(including the judge, bailliff, and clerk of court at> > the arraignment)> > >he's looking at a real possibility of jail time,> > notwithstanding this> > >is his first movi g violation.> > >> > >Obviously, he's getting a lawyer and has several> > recommendations already.> > >> > >He'd also like to: 1) get his speedo calibrated; and> > 2) take an ERC> > >course. He'll look to the MSF website for the ERC, but> > the speedo> > >issue is more difficult to track down. I know that I> > had a difficult> > >enough time of it with my car.> > >> > >Can anyone recommend a location that will calibrate the> > speedometer of a> > >bike?> > >> > >Thanks,> > >> > >Aaron> > >> >> >> >> > > Tom Gimer - 301 675-3980 (cell)> - http://www.murphygimer.com> - http://www.mgtitlellc.com> > > > ____________________________________________________> Sell on Yahoo! Auctions )B– no fees. Bid on great items.> http://auctions.yahoo.com/> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 12 09:24:52 2005 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 09:24:45 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: roadrunnaz@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Thor knee pads group buy? I like these becuase they go above the knee as well. ( have this fear that in a get off my knee/lower thigh might hit the handle bars, or i'd tumble on my knee/s or do a light scrape on the pavement (ouch) and i'd rather it be a light bruise or no injury vs a broken leg or painful bruise or rash), these are no gaurantee but at least it's a try to prevent that. http://www.ridegear.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/store/product/F-10152_Force_Knee_Guards.html?L+scstore+wwfr5789ff214e21+1121198463 $35.99 small / medium $42.00 large/xl If the order is over $149 we'd each save $8.99 shipping by not ordering individually. Unless anyone knows of a better deal ? I can collect funds at wednesday nights cranberries gathering.. or if someone else is going to order something from ridegear.com let me know and i'll give you my $36 to order the knee gaurds. - Danny From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 12 10:30:29 2005 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:30:23 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Thor knee pads group buy? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > I like these becuase they go above the knee as well. ( have this fear > that in a > get off my knee/lower thigh might hit the handle bars, or i'd tumble > on my knee/s or do a light scrape on the pavement (ouch) and i'd > rather it be a light bruise or no injury vs a broken leg or painful > bruise or rash), these are no gaurantee but at least it's a try to > prevent that. maybe I misunderstand your 'values' from what I've gleaned from your posts over the years but while the armor in question will no doubt render you into some sort of Judge Dredd you'll be hard pressed to find overpants to fit over them. They are intended to protect over the thinnest of pants as worn in offroad situations. Just like the upper body ones are worn what amounts to a T-shirt as far as protection is concerned. I've crash tested Ballistic pants at north of 85mph (and icy 65mph) and while I did suffer some lacerations in the former and almost nothing at all in the latter, the GP armor prevented bone breakage and more serious trauma. No matter what you do, if you crash then you'll get bruised. I had SIDI's Vertebrea race boots on and I couldn't walk for 2 days from the absolute pounding my feet suffered cartwheeling down the 8 lane highway. These knee/shin units won't do anything worthwhile with regard to scrapes. If you get scraped up it's because you're not wearing proper outerwear - ie. jeans don't provide a single lick of protection. I've watched people crash at <20mph in jeans and suffer mightily. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 12 14:26:28 2005 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:26:18 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: matthew patton Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Thor knee pads group buy? Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Most of us aren't going to deck out in full race leathers.. especially in this heat.. a lot of us will wear jeans with no knee protection. I want something. You never know, a car might pull out and knock you into a MPH sign. I'd rather have something under my jeans. I'm not expecting these to make me invinsible, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out some padding is better than no padding, and some accidents it will prevent injuries and some accidents it won't. I at least want it for the ones where it will help. I'm confident they'll fit under my jeans, but if they won't, i may wear them outside of my jeans. I'd rather have protected knees then worry about what other people think. On 7/12/05, matthew patton wrote: > > I like these becuase they go above the knee as well. ( have this fear > > that in a > > get off my knee/lower thigh might hit the handle bars, or i'd tumble > > on my knee/s or do a light scrape on the pavement (ouch) and i'd > > rather it be a light bruise or no injury vs a broken leg or painful > > bruise or rash), these are no gaurantee but at least it's a try to > > prevent that. > > maybe I misunderstand your 'values' from what I've gleaned from your > posts over the years but while the armor in question will no doubt > render you into some sort of Judge Dredd you'll be hard pressed to find > overpants to fit over them. They are intended to protect over the > thinnest of pants as worn in offroad situations. Just like the upper > body ones are worn what amounts to a T-shirt as far as protection is > concerned. > > I've crash tested Ballistic pants at north of 85mph (and icy 65mph) and > while I did suffer some lacerations in the former and almost nothing at > all in the latter, the GP armor prevented bone breakage and more > serious trauma. No matter what you do, if you crash then you'll get > bruised. I had SIDI's Vertebrea race boots on and I couldn't walk for 2 > days from the absolute pounding my feet suffered cartwheeling down the > 8 lane highway. These knee/shin units won't do anything worthwhile with > regard to scrapes. If you get scraped up it's because you're not > wearing proper outerwear - ie. jeans don't provide a single lick of > protection. I've watched people crash at <20mph in jeans and suffer mightily. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 12 14:43:49 2005 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:44:27 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: Cc: "Julian Halton" Subject: [dc-cycles] A little older; a little smarter So my little R6 was not taking this weather too well today. Even at highway speeds, the engine temp was around 190 fahrenheit. I was riding to the Franconia area. On my way back, I got on the ramp from 644 (Keene Mill) road. It is a nice sweeping curving ramp and I got leaned over and could feel the pull of wanting to lean harder and add throttle. The banks of the ramp are high enough to cut off visibility. So I am straightened and slowed. The end portion of the curve led to traffic at a dead stop waiting for the mixing bowl merge dance. Thanks MSF! I was able to stop in time and select a run off route had it been needed. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 12 15:46:57 2005 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:46:32 -0400 From: Tealkat6@XXXXXX (Steven C. Di Pietro) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-AOL-Language: english Subject: [dc-cycles] Got a MC for sale? Hi al, Within 2 weeks I'll be getting the funds to buy another used motorcycle. Right now, I'm looking for something to used as a tour bike. I'd really like to get a new BMW K1200LT, but that's WAY, WAY out of MY budget, so I'm looking at 1980 Honda CB 900C. It's not quite what I wan't as it dosen't have a fairing or saddlebags. So, what do you have for sale? Steven C. Di Pietro Pasadena, Maryland __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 12 19:16:29 2005 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:16:20 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: roadrunnaz@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] best place to buy stands? I want a stand that uses spools in the rear and the front tripple tree tube in the front. Where's the best place to get these? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jul 12 20:20:41 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] best place to buy stands? Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:20:33 -0400 I just bought these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4558867509 This auction is for a front & rear set of Thruster motorcycle stands, made in the U.S.A., manufactured by Speed Unlimited, makers of the famous Thruster line of BMX racing frames. The Thruster stands are made of large 1 1/2" steel tubing which not only makes these stands strong and sturdy but also light. With the turn of a bolt this stand is fully adjustable to fit most street, motorcross and touring bikes that have a double sided swing arm. The Thruster stand is universal and will accept bikes with or without spools by simply turning over the mounting bracket. The mounting bracket comes with a protective nylon sleeve to protect the swing arm from scratches. Other companies charge extra for a universal bracket to accept spooled and non spooled bikes, not us! We also welded a 4 inch skid plate on the bottom of the frame so when the frame is being tossed around the shop or scraped on the ground the main frame will not wear away. Our stands come with large, 4 inch wheels which have precision sealed bearings and high quality bolts with nylon lock nuts, not like some of the other stands on the market with cheap plastic wheels and poor quality hardware. Also, the handle comes with a comfortable rubber grip. This stand is solid and sturdy and you have a choice of a beautiful black finish with green wheels or a beautiful red finish with red wheels. Other stands of less quality sell for $150.00 or more for just a single stand! Check for yourself the quality of materials and standard features compared to other manufacturers. The Thruster stand is one of the highest quality stands on the market. No negative feedback bidders. Paypal and money orders only. Payment within 5 days of auction end. Winner pays shipping and handling charges. A low discounted shipping charge for a set of stands is $20.00 within most of the U.S. (Because we ship from the East some West Coast areas, Zones 6, 7 & 8 will be more). NY residents add 8% sales tax. International shipping will need to be determined. Winning bidder please specify choice of color at end of auction; if no color choice is given whatever is in stock at that time will be shipped. >From: Danny Motorcycle >Reply-To: Danny Motorcycle >To: roadrunnaz@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles >Subject: [dc-cycles] best place to buy stands? >Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:16:20 -0400 > >I want a stand that uses spools in the rear >and the front tripple tree tube in the front. > >Where's the best place to get these? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jul 13 14:00:18 2005 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:00:05 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] stolen tag alert from another list, http://www.dcsportbikes.com/forums/329021/ShowPost.aspx Maryland tag : 553M61 being used (getting photo tickets) on a yellow honda sportbike, the guy's helmet has a checkered flag centerstripe, and he otherwise wears shorts and T shirt. Can we say moron? other info: "cool, so we know it's a Honda F4i and the guy "may" be in the military...the first ticket was at the same exact location, 5400 block 16th street N W going south bound. Is there a military base in that area? The first ticket, he was wearing a yellow parka and had a WSC (washington sports club?) backpack on." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jul 13 15:13:52 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:13:42 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] Red Light Cameras I thought VA was taking them down/not using them. I just got a letter in the mail, with a fine for running one, by .56 seconds. Anyone know what's going on with them? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jul 13 15:27:51 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Red Light Cameras Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:27:44 -0400 I think mine was after that, unfortunately I already mailed it in. It was from the City of Falls Church btw. >From: skip >To: rich hall >Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Red Light Cameras >Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:19:10 -0400 > >as of july 1 they are no longer legal > >rich hall wrote: > > > > I thought VA was taking them down/not using them. I just got a letter >in > > the mail, with a fine for running one, by .56 seconds. Anyone know >what's > > going on with them? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jul 13 15:28:55 2005 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:28:05 -0400 From: Paul Wilson To: rich hall Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Red Light Cameras Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Virginia's red light automated enforcement program expired on July 1st. The General Assembly chose not to extend it and the program "sunsetted." That doesn't stop them from dunning you for violations prior to July 1. Many jurisdictions claimed to have *lost* money on the program. Whether that's creative accounting or not, it stands in marked contrast to DC. According to a story in the Examiner, some jurisdictions (I think Falls Church was one) intend to keep the cameras in place for "research" purposes. Perhaps they can "research" how deploying flesh and blood LEOs at intersections affects red-light running. Or how many cell phone yakkers blow through red lights. Yes, I'm baaaack....... :) On 7/13/05, rich hall wrote: > I thought VA was taking them down/not using them. I just got a letter in > the mail, with a fine for running one, by .56 seconds. Anyone know what's > going on with them? > > > -- Paul in DC - www.wilsonline.org 95 VFR - 90 KLR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jul 13 15:34:31 2005 From: "Dave Yates" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:27:37 +0000 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Red Light Cameras Rich: I thought VA was taking them down/not using them. I just got a letter in the mail, with a fine for running one, by .56 seconds. Anyone know what's going on with them? [Dave] Any citation issued after 1 July '05 FROM A CAMERA ONLY for running a red light is without the force of law. However, anything issued prior to 1 July is a legitimate infraction which you will need to defend yourself against. And no, they are not coming down. Every single jurisdiction has refused to remove them. I'm not aware if they're still snapping flashes and taking pictures but I did read more than one news quote from more than one camera jurisdiction that they intended to keep taking pictures to use as evidence of the need to re-implement camera enabling legislation again next year...and probably every year thereafter. One of the news shows did a story on Falls Church, who apparently use the cameras to delay an opposing green light while a car is about to run a red. That is pretty cool. If it was *really* all about the privacy concerns, all the groups who pushed for the General Assembly to not renew the legislation would not be suing the localities for not disabling the cameras... And If it was *really* all about safety, police officers who were running stationary radar would now be retasked to patrol these dangerous intersections... Where are the court cases and where is all the carnage? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jul 13 15:37:19 2005 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:36:58 -0400 From: skip CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Red Light Cameras Dave Yates wrote: One of the news shows did a story on Falls Church, who apparently use the cameras to delay an opposing green light while a car is about to run a red. That is pretty cool. you know what? that -is- cool. *that* is using it for 'safety' --skip From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jul 13 16:17:07 2005 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:17:02 -0400 From: Robert To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Red Light Cameras My favorite speed sensing device is on a pole on the side of Wilson Blvd, in Falls Church going towards Ballston. Turns a light red at the bottom of the hill, if it detects a speed infraction. Of course, I turn to the right just before the traffic signal, so I suspect I may abuse this particular piece of technology just a wee bit.. ;-) Robert On 7/13/05, skip wrote: > > > Dave Yates wrote: > One of the news shows did a story on Falls Church, who apparently use > the cameras to delay an opposing green light while a car is about to run > a red. That is pretty cool. > > > you know what? that -is- cool. *that* is using it for 'safety' > > > --skip > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jul 13 17:31:24 2005 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:31:16 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] anyone have cortech luggage? I need to see if it'll fit on my SV. debating between going back to soft luggage vs going with Ventura Luggage again. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jul 13 19:02:15 2005 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:02:06 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: roadrunnaz@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Ebay Coupons eBay/PayPal coupon codes *YMMV* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- eBay has a few coupons good for purchases made with paypal. $10 off $50 - CATLSP051050 $5 off $50 - CATLSP050550 $15 off $100 - CATLSP051500 10% off (Max. $25 discount) - CATLSP051025 Limit one use per coupon, per PayPal account. They all expire July 15th 2005. Buyer must pay for eBay item using PayPal - when in the PayPal payment screen just enter the coupon code. Highly Recommend you use your credit card with paypal for buyer protection, because paypal is crap as far as any kind of fraud protection with your purchase. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jul 13 19:33:25 2005 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:33:14 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] wheels powder coated in nova? a friend wants his wheels powder coated white (doh).. anyone know of a spot in NOVA? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jul 13 21:24:31 2005 From: "Bruce N" To: "Danny Motorcycle" , "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] wheels powder coated in nova? Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:23:48 -0400 X-EN-UserInfo: 491cc520d85f37050654855667ce7bc9:eef17f84dc61b2cfa83f34354b81b18b X-EN-AuthUser: bcn@XXXXXX http://www.ascoweb.com/ American Stripping in Manassas. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny Motorcycle" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] wheels powder coated in nova? >a friend wants his wheels powder coated white (doh).. > anyone know of a spot in NOVA? > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jul 13 22:33:38 2005 Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] wheels powder coated in nova? Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:25:30 -0400 From: "Hugh Caldwell" To: X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host=smtp.vzavenue.net These are the folks that powder coated my VFR wheels in 2000 and they've held up very well. Hugh -----Original Message----- From: Bruce N [mailto:bcn@XXXXXX] To: Danny Motorcycle; DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] wheels powder coated in nova? http://www.ascoweb.com/ American Stripping in Manassas. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny Motorcycle" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] wheels powder coated in nova? >a friend wants his wheels powder coated white (doh).. > anyone know of a spot in NOVA? > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jul 14 10:16:42 2005 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:16:32 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: Hugh Caldwell Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] wheels powder coated in nova? Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX thanks for all the responses. I'm assuming i have to bring them bear rims, no bearings? what did they charge you? On 7/13/05, Hugh Caldwell wrote: > These are the folks that powder coated my VFR wheels in 2000 and they've > held up very well. > > Hugh > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce N [mailto:bcn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 9:31 PM > To: Danny Motorcycle; DC-Cycles > Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] wheels powder coated in nova? > > http://www.ascoweb.com/ > > American Stripping in Manassas. > > Bruce > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Danny Motorcycle" > To: "DC-Cycles" > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:33 PM > Subject: [dc-cycles] wheels powder coated in nova? > > > >a friend wants his wheels powder coated white (doh).. > > anyone know of a spot in NOVA? > > > > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jul 14 12:36:18 2005 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXNeYUto3esq3o4sX7x7rNLQdzlam7mw39A== From: "celticracing@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:34:55 GMT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-ContentStamp: 2:3:1382867511 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.131.27.167|webmail27.lax.untd.com|webmail27.lax.untd.com|celticracing@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] SPAM - 89 FORD E350 ONE TON VAN - $1,500/OBO - Woodbridge Please pardon the spam. I have two vans and need to get rid of one. A couple of years ago I purchased Randy Dalmas'89 Ford E350 one ton van for hauling stuff from the Home Depot and then to the Dump after I screwed up a project. I've already got my 97 E250, and just bought a Pace American open bed trailer from the Home Depot for Hauling heavy stuff, so the 89 van is surplus. I'm asking 1,500, which I think is fair, and less than the cost of the trailer. I will eventually sell it for best offer, so let me know what it is worth to you. I'll be around this weekend. I live near Potomac Mills in Woodbridge. (703) 244-6739 Thanks, Tom From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jul 14 14:52:32 2005 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:52:16 -0400 From: skip To: DC Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] This weekend I just found out about this. It looks like ot could be fun. I will be attending. http://www.hyper-fest.com/ an example of the fun to be had... ROLLOVER CONTEST | 6:00PM - 6:25PM (Main Track) Will you be the one to beat the defending champion? $500 Total Purse: Winner Take All!!!! Driver: Helmet and neck collar are required. Neck collars can be borrowed from the track. Eye protection is required with face shield or goggles. Driver must wear long pants, long sleeve t-shirt and gloves of some kind. Drivers must be 18 years old. Exhaust must be removed from the catalytic converter back. Cat MUST be removed! Coolant must be replaced with pure water. Stock fuel tanks must be used. Maximum of three gallons in tank. External modifications to the car are NOT permitted. Contest Rules: Points will be awarded based on total number of rotations. If the car stops on the roof, a )B½ point will be awarded. Each participant will get two attempts and their scores will be combined for a total score. If a car stalls during a run, the driver has sixty seconds to restart. If the driver is unable to restart, he loses his turn. From the starting point, cars will proceed towards a small ramp placing either their right or left tire on the ramp. As the car elevated, the driver should turn the wheel causing the car to roll over. Failure to roll the car still counts as one attempt. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jul 14 16:08:31 2005 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:08:24 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] looking for that 3M heavy duty plastic sheeting I've been out of DC for a few years. I guess it's very much akin to the headlight protective film you can get for cars and such. My intention is to protect bodywork. Just lookup my local pepboys/autozone then? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jul 14 22:06:23 2005 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:06:09 -0400 From: Thomas Jordan To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] This weekend We've got two rollover cars for the competition. One is in its third (or is it fourth?) year, and the other is in its second year. Amazingly, we have been able to re-use them with minor fixes. I'm sitting this one out and letting a friend use my rollover car. I'm going to work on making a car for the drift competition tomorrow (instead of actually working...) The Hyperfest is a good time if you like poorly organized very large events full of stupidity and not to big on safety.But hey, that's NASA in a nutshell. On 7/14/05, skip wrote: > I just found out about this. It looks like ot could be fun. I will be > attending. > > http://www.hyper-fest.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 07:19:11 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:19:01 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-Language: en Subject: [dc-cycles] Shituff we used on the trip to AK Some notes on the gear I used on our AK trip. Much of it was purchased just for this trip. I may think of other stuff later. The bike itself: The ST was of course not purchased for this trip, I purchased the 1983 R80RT, back in 83, for this trip. The bike itself was wonderful and while not the perfect bike for the AK highway (Any adventure tour (think BMWs GS series) would be better) The ST did itself proud. The one thing I would/should have done it to upgrade the rear suspension, between having over 60k miles on the old one and the fact that the stock one was never up to our riding two up much less with a full load of gear I just should have done it. (The over $400 cost was one reason I did not) Tires: I average somewhere between 9 and 10k on a rear tire riding solo. I knew that this trip was going to be well over 10k and two up with gear. The math was not hard to do, I was going to need a tire somewhere along the way. I had planned to run the old tire as far as it would go and replace it somewhere up in the northwest hopefully at the last big city and decided early on to replace it in Calgary about 3k into the trip. Unfortunately 90mi. from Calgary I had a tread separation flat, a real nasty flat that my repair kit stood no chance of repairing, you could slip three fingers through the slit between the tread and the carcass. When all was said and done this was by far the most expensive tire/installation I have ever purchased. The part that bugs me is that I truly think I could have prevented the problem, not by following the "rules," I did that, but by using what I know about tires, and I did not do that. I knew that I was running heavy, technically overloaded. and I just set the rear pressure to Hondas recommended pressure and left it at that. What I _should_ have done was keep track of the tire _temperature._ When I did that (on the new tire) I found out that at the recommended pressure the tire was running HOT, very hot. When I added 6 to 8psi. of pressure the tire ran _much_ cooler. Had I checked tire temperature and adjusted the pressure early on I really believe the tire would not have failed. Live and learn. The test is that even after 8,900mi. on the new tire I still have useable tread on the new tire even with the load I was carrying. Nandy alarm _with_ pager: Not installed for this trip but for work in downtown DC, it was never the less _very_ nice to have when in a motel room out of sight of the bike. The one or two times the pager woke me up with a false (assumed false) alarm was more them made up for by the rest I got by not worrying about the bike/trailer. I love the pager. (Fun fact, The alarm makes a "chirp" when activated or deactivated. At least twice someone looked around in the trees to see what kind of bird it was and once someone whistled back at the "bird," strange but true.) Intercom: Autocom Easi-7-advance. We knew we would need a good intercom for this trip and spent some time selecting what we wanted. I could not be happier with the unit I wound up with then I am. We chose the free standing unit with its own battery (9v) I liked the fact that it was not mounted to the bike and subject to wear and tear even when not in use. As of now it is sitting in the garage "resting" until I need it again. It is small and often I just put it in the pocket of my jacket, but mostly kept it in a "fanny pack" that I called the communications center. The unit allows for hooking up a radio or mp3 player (we had both) _and_ allows hooking up a cell phone to the "master" headset. I do not really want a cell phone in my ear so Angela was the "master" Normally we would never want to "be in touch" on a vacation like this one but being gone for 6 or 7 weeks and with my mother in somewhat frail health I did not want to be out of touch. (which brings up) My cell phone: SUCKS!! My cell phone has _no_ service in Canada, I expected that and nearly bought another phone to work there but decided not to. I would have purchased another phone/provider if I had realized that I would have no coverage in Alaska! I expected to have coverage there, at least in the major cities, but hell no. (I could have checked, all I had to do was type in the zip code to see if I would have coverage. All I had to do was type in the HUNDREDS of zip codes I would be traveling through...) Tall windshield: Actually Angela was the one getting buffeted with the stock windshield so I installed a 4" taller one. It did a great job of keeping the wind off of her and the bugs off of me. (I do not even want to think about what it is going to take to clean all of the bugs off of it.) Heli Bars: While I cannot put a finger on it these made a big difference for me. The pain that has always developed in my right elbow during rides of any length on the ST never reared its ugly head. Adjusting them was a pain but only in the sense that infinite adjustability requires infinite decisions. (odd note: My 1976 Triumph Bonneville (750) had, of course, Triumph Bonneville handlebars and I loved them. My next bike a Suzuki GS850G had bars that were close, but no prize so I put Bonneville bars on it. BMW R80RT? I was not as easy but I put Bonneville bars on it also. I had the BMW so long that I had forgotten about the bars and never thought about trying to find a set for the ST. The point is that after all of the adjusting I think I have turned the Heli Bars into Triumph Bars. Whoda thunk it? Camelbak: We got a 1 1/2 Liter Camelbak. With an official Camelbak extension tube we were able to mount it to the top of the trunk and still drink while riding. It was quite nice to be able to drink while riding. The real reason was that having lived in a desert makes me want to have water along just in case we broke down in the middle of nowhere. The "proof of the pudding" was when we stopped to see if we could help a biker broken down on the side of the road (flat tire, unfortunately he had tubes so I could not help.) The first thing he asked was "do you have anything to drink," he had been out there quite a while without water. We were able to give him a drink and filling a ziplock bag with our remaining water were able to leave him with some. A good thing to have along. Trailer hitch: This was the trailer component I was worried about, it looked a little lightweight for the job but it performed flawlessly. Wiring adapter: to go from separate turn signals to shared brake/turn lights on the trailer. No problems at all. (I would have thought that a trailer made for bike would have separate turn and brake bulb systems, but what do I know...) And that brings up... The damn trailer: In fairness I purchase the cheapest trailer I could find and I "got what I paid for" The trailer in function was wonderful! We quickly arranged things so that it just contained all of our camping gear so that when staying in motels we never had to open it. (OK there was always one damn thing..) It was great and I loved having the space without having all of our gear on the bike itself. And chaining the trailer to a tree gave me a place to lock stuff up in a campsite when out doing touristy things. But it broke. On the Alaska Highway, admittedly a rough road, the frame broke. The whole body of the trailer drooped down until the tires were rubbing the wheel wells. I had it welded and reinforced. (when I saw that it was broken I was not 50)B’ from a welding shop) It broke again before Fairbanks. I called the manufacturer and they sent me a _new frame_ even adding gussets to reinforce it. (I volunteered to pay for shipping since I wanted it overnight, $260 for shipping red label to AK...OW!!!) About 5,000mi. later it broke again. On one of the flattest, smoothest, straightest, boringest roads in the US of A. I-90 through SD, WY, MN. Another extra night in a motel, another welding job. (by some folks who _really_ know their shituff) The frame is just _badly_ engineered (keep in mind that I have 11 years as a steel worker and 8 as a mechanic.) The member that broke (the same member every time, never in the same place) carries every bit of the stress on the trailer and is flimsy thin material installed in the weakest possible way, a mistake an amateur should not have made. They need to go back to the drawing board with the frame. If they offer me a new one I will refuse. Flashlights: Ever hear the one about "useless as (how do I say this) um... mammarys on a bull"? Well flashlights are even more useless in Alaska in the summertime. I had, if you include my propane lantern, no less then 4 of them. Useless... Freeze dried food: We did not use a lot of this but what we used was really quite good (we especially like the beef stroganoff.) When you consider the cost of even fast food it is not very expensive and with the "cook in the bag" type we used there was virtually no clean up. This stuff is a bit bulky what with being the same size before cooking as after, but weighs darn near nothing. (Those bags are tough, our food bag/soft cooler was located on the trailer tongue and the freeze dried food bags were unprotected under straps on the front of the bag _directly_ behind the rear wheel. There were times when you could not have known what was under the straps without removing layers of mud.) Ziplock bags: I love Ziplock bags BUT contrary to popular belief they are _not_ waterproof. I only lost some dry food this trip because I already knew better then to trust them with anything valuable from pas experiences, but take the warning. Do not depend on Ziplocks to protect electronics or valuables that can be damaged by water. They will afford some splash resistance but will leak if exposed to water for any length of time. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC 1999, Honda ST1100X Pan European 1983, BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles 1976, Honda CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 07:26:55 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:26:48 -0400 From: Michael Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Shituff we used on the trip to AK > (Fun fact, The alarm makes a "chirp" > when activated or deactivated. At least twice someone looked around in the > trees to see what kind of bird it was and once someone whistled back at the > "bird," strange but true.) Ah, Grasshopper - you missed a sterling opportunity to see just how long you could have the person whistling at your motorcycle :-) -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 USAF (Ret) NRA etc. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 07:35:31 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:35:20 EDT Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Shituff we used on the trip to AK To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 7/15/2005 7:27:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mjordan812@XXXXXX writes: > Ah, Grasshopper - you missed a sterling opportunity to see just how > long you could have the person whistling at your motorcycle :-) What makes you think that? #:-) John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 10:16:50 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:16:40 -0400 From: Mike Troutman To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls I wanted to put this out there, although the published details are still sketchy. A long time friend of mine - Scott Hirons - is fighting a battle to keep HOV lanes from becoming HOT (toll) lanes. His website for the effort is http://www.savehov.org. He has just made me aware that HOT lanes will not allow motorcycles to travel for free, they will have to pay tolls, losing their High Occupancy status. I know the plan on 495 is to build new lanes for HOT, but I assume they will be stealing or converting taxpayer funder HOV lanes on 395 and inside 66. I am uneducated on the issue, but I do have concerns about the new HOT lanes allowing multiple passenger vehicles to ride for free while ignoring motorcycles; losing ground on an issue we so recently won. You can email Scott directly for more information on the issue : scott@XXXXXX - he welcomes any input. -- ___________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/ Home 703.392.1066 Cell 703.565.4801 Fax 703.392.4665 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 10:36:19 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:36:10 -0400 Sounds like we need to go to AMA and get them working on it. >From: Mike Troutman >Reply-To: mike@XXXXXX >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls >Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:16:40 -0400 > >I wanted to put this out there, although the published details are still >sketchy. A long time friend of mine - Scott Hirons - is fighting a battle >to keep HOV lanes from becoming HOT (toll) lanes. His website for the >effort is http://www.savehov.org. He has just made me aware that HOT lanes >will not allow motorcycles to travel for free, they will have to pay tolls, >losing their High Occupancy status. I know the plan on 495 is to build new >lanes for HOT, but I assume they will be stealing or converting taxpayer >funder HOV lanes on 395 and inside 66. > >I am uneducated on the issue, but I do have concerns about the new HOT >lanes allowing multiple passenger vehicles to ride for free while ignoring >motorcycles; losing ground on an issue we so recently won. > >You can email Scott directly for more information on the issue : >scott@XXXXXX - he welcomes any input. > >-- >___________________________________ >Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org/ > Home 703.392.1066 > Cell 703.565.4801 > Fax 703.392.4665 > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 10:50:46 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:50:21 -0400 From: skip To: mail@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] HOV/HOT lanes Dear Delegate Black, I am writing you today to share my concerns regarding the move to create HOT lanes. It has come to my attention that the current plan is to remove motorcycle's high occupancy status with regards to HOT lanes. Presently, motorcycles are considered "high occupancy" and are permitted to use HOV lanes. Motorcycles, in wide use in the rest of the world, are a very economical mode of transportation. They are extremely fuel efficient, with many models getting 45-50 miles per gallon. They cause significantly less were and tear to the roads they travel, mostly because instead of weighing in at two or three thousand pounds, they generally weigh less than 600 pounds, and their small size makes motorcycle parking very space efficient; you can easily park four motorcycles in one car parking spot. When people see a motorcycle in the HOT lane, rolling along at the speed limit and paying no toll while they are sitting in traffic, they will consider commuting on one, and with every motorcycle on the road saving 20-40 miles per gallon and reducing wear on the highways, we all win. I urge you to not allow the high occupancy status of motorcycles to be removed regarding HOV/HOT lanes. Respectfully, Arthur C Smith, IV 733 Sugarland Run Dr Sterling, VA 20164 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 12:37:59 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:37:54 -0400 From: Michael Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls My understanding of all of this mess is that: 1. HOV remains in force - no changes 2. HOT only pertains to drivers that do not qualify for HOV 3. Motorcycles in HOV are a Federal mandate -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 USAF (Ret) NRA etc. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 12:50:03 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:49:52 -0400 Does anyone know someone that rides in a state w/ HOT lanes, we could just ask how it is there? I think Cali already has them. >From: Michael Jordan >Reply-To: Michael Jordan >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls >Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:37:54 -0400 > >My understanding of all of this mess is that: > >1. HOV remains in force - no changes >2. HOT only pertains to drivers that do not qualify for HOV >3. Motorcycles in HOV are a Federal mandate > >-- >Michael J. >'86 SRX-6 >'93 GSX1100G >'03 DL1000 >AMA >IBA #3901 >USAF (Ret) >NRA >etc. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 12:57:48 2005 From: "Dave Yates" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:57:36 +0000 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls Rich asked: Does anyone know someone that rides in a state w/ HOT lanes, we could just ask how it is there? I think Cali already has them. [Dave] No, but we need look no further than Baltimore to see what can happen when you put a toll booth on an already congested interstate; Gridlock. Wherever they decide to put the booths will be yet another choke point on the capital beltway. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 13:00:43 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:00:35 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls At 12:57 PM 7/15/2005, Dave Yates wrote: >Rich asked: > >Does anyone know someone that rides in a state w/ HOT lanes, we could just >ask how it is there? I think Cali already has them. > >[Dave] No, but we need look no further than Baltimore to see what can happen >when you put a toll booth on an already congested interstate; Gridlock. > >Wherever they decide to put the booths will be yet another choke point on the >capital beltway. ..I'm still trying to figure how they put tolls on an federally funded interstate highway and got away with it. -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 13:07:40 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:07:30 -0400 From: Mike Troutman To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls From Scott : At a public hearing last night they had a .PPT that said directly Motorcycles pay tolls. I was hoping they'd post that presentation, but I have doubts they ever will. They also stated the fact - just in case the audience couldn't read it. Anway here are links to information about the HOT Lane proposals: http://www.virginiadot.org/projects/ppta-I-95_I-395HOTLanesAP.asp - from there you can get to each of the proposals. Virginia currently allow motorcycles to use HOV free of charge anytime of the day. There is no legislation that would expire that exemption at anytime. However the legislation that allows for public-private partnerships (i.e. what gives the state power to push through HOT Lanes) allows the corporations to set the rules on the HOV. Both Flour and Clark proposals eliminate motorcycle exemptions - or rather allows them to be charged the standard toll. Michael Jordan wrote: >My understanding of all of this mess is that: > >1. HOV remains in force - no changes >2. HOT only pertains to drivers that do not qualify for HOV >3. Motorcycles in HOV are a Federal mandate > > > -- ___________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/ Home 703.392.1066 Cell 703.565.4801 Fax 703.392.4665 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 13:14:34 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:14:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I think I can answer that question. Roads such as the PA turnpike were toll roads before the Interstate system went into effect. Same with the Richmond tolls that used to exist. --- Aki Damme wrote: > ..I'm still trying to figure how they put tolls on > an federally funded > interstate highway and got away with it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 13:19:19 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:19:04 -0400 From: "De Boeser, Tom" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls rich hall wrote: > Does anyone know someone that rides in a state w/ HOT lanes, we could > just ask how it is there? I think Cali already has them. > Don't know anyone, but I read an article in the Post. The HOT lanes there are always in gridlock, but not as bad as the main lanes. HOT here is the worst idea. Go to trafficland.com and check out the cameras on 95. On most Fridays the HOV's are in gridlock for 1-2 miles, due in part to people who know there isn't (really) any enforcement on Fridays. And at about 8:30am people clog up the HOV's, knowing there won't be any enforcement at that time. Those damn "hybrids" need to be booted off too. This is just another way for a government to make money. I'm going to do what I can to stop the HOT lanes, at least on 95. This is one battle I'll join, tom de 03 ST1300 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 13:23:40 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:23:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] EZ-Pass in MD Anyone seen this yet? http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=30&sid=543145 ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 13:27:49 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:27:38 -0400 From: Mike Troutman To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls De Boeser, Tom wrote: > Those damn "hybrids" need to be booted off too. > This is just another way for a government to make money. I'm going > to do what I can to stop the HOT lanes, at least on 95. Hybrids are supposed to be much more fuel efficient. If you argue against hybrids being on HOV, you are efffectively arguing against motorcycles as well. Our saving grace is that we also take up less room parking and cause less wear to the roads. But I believe the MPG argument got us on HOV in the first place. Of course real world figures show the hybrids are vaporware in terms of MPG. -- ___________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/ Home 703.392.1066 Cell 703.565.4801 Fax 703.392.4665 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 13:39:05 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:38:55 -0400 From: "De Boeser, Tom" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls Mike Troutman wrote: > De Boeser, Tom wrote: > >> Those damn "hybrids" need to be booted off too. >> This is just another way for a government to make money. I'm going >> to do what I can to stop the HOT lanes, at least on 95. > > > Hybrids are supposed to be much more fuel efficient. If you argue > against hybrids being on HOV, you are efffectively arguing against > motorcycles as well. Our saving grace is that we also take up less > room parking and cause less wear to the roads. But I believe the MPG > argument got us on HOV in the first place. Of course real world > figures show the hybrids are vaporware in terms of MPG. If I weren't so lazy I'd find all the articles on how inefficient hybrids are. Their advertised MPG is not their actual. My VW TDI does as well if not better than the "hybrids" in real life. I wouldn't have an issue with hybrids if they didn't use gasoline. The plate they get in VA is "Clean Special Fuel". Tom de 03 ST1300 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 13:42:40 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:42:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX What's funny is the hybrids such as the Toyota Prius (or cars that use Toyota's technology) do best in the congested stop and go traffic of the regular lanes as their brakes regenerate electricity for the electric motor. When they are moving 55+ they are no better or maybe not as good as a regular compact car. Glenn --- Mike Troutman wrote: > Hybrids are supposed to be much more fuel efficient. > If you argue against hybrids being on HOV, you are > efffectively arguing against motorcycles as well. > Our saving grace is that we also take up less room > parking and cause less wear to the roads. But I > believe the MPG argument got us on HOV in the first > place. Of course real world figures show the > hybrids are vaporware in terms of MPG. > -- __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail for Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 14:02:30 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:02:16 -0400 Only let EZPass in the lanes then. And set the friggin speed limit higher than 35mph for entry, urg. >From: "Dave Yates" >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls >Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:57:36 +0000 > >Wherever they decide to put the booths will be yet another choke point on >the capital beltway. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 14:03:57 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:03:46 -0400 I don't exactly get the greatest milage on the bike. >From: Mike Troutman >Reply-To: mike@XXXXXX >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls >Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:27:38 -0400 > >De Boeser, Tom wrote: > >>Those damn "hybrids" need to be booted off too. >> This is just another way for a government to make money. I'm going to >>do what I can to stop the HOT lanes, at least on 95. > >Hybrids are supposed to be much more fuel efficient. If you argue against >hybrids being on HOV, you are efffectively arguing against motorcycles as >well. Our saving grace is that we also take up less room parking and cause >less wear to the roads. But I believe the MPG argument got us on HOV in >the first place. Of course real world figures show the hybrids are >vaporware in terms of MPG. >-- >___________________________________ >Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org/ > Home 703.392.1066 > Cell 703.565.4801 > Fax 703.392.4665 > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 14:04:56 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:04:48 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] Ride To Work Day July 20, 2005 ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Ride To Work Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:28:24 UT Ride To Work Day July 20, 2005

Press Release: For Immediate Release
Date: 7/15/2005
Subject: Ride To Work Day 2005

Motorcycle and Scooter Ride to Work Day is this Wednesday

Motorcycle and scooter riders)B’ 14th annual commuting day is Wednesday, July 20th. Participation in the yearly demonstration is estimated to triple the number of riders on the road. Motorcycle and scooter groups and organizations actively encourage riders to commute by cycle on this day. On Ride to Work Day, motorcycle and scooter commuters seek improved employer recognition and support for this form of transportation and increased public and government awareness of the positive value of riding.

Adding more motorcycles and scooters to everyone)B’s daily commute makes urban parking easier and traffic flow better, according to Ride to Work, a non-profit advocacy organization. Studies have also shown that across the same distances motorcyclists reach their destinations faster than those using automobiles. Many motorcycles and scooters also consume less resources per mile than automobiles. “Riding to work on this day is fun and shows the positive value of motorcycling. For many people, riding is a socially responsible form of mobility that saves energy, helps the environment and provides a broad range of other public benefits,” stated Andy Goldfine, this year’s event organizer.

Ride to Work Day, a 501 c4 nonprofit organization, can be reached at:
POB 1072, Proctor, Minnesota, 55810 USA
http://www.ridetowork.org
218 722 9806
Ride to Work Day Mission Statement:
To advocate and support the use of motorcycles for transportation, and to provide information about transportation riding to the public.
Participating Ride to Work Day Countries:
Germany, Philippines, England, Germany, Israel, Turkey, Ecuador, United States, and many others.
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Sample issues of 'The Daily Rider':
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A brief history of Ride to Work Day:
http://www.ridetowork.org/docs/2004history.html
A transportation motorcycling and scootering fact sheet:
http://www.ridetowork.org/docs/2005trans_facts.html
Motorcycle and scooter commuting ads, illustrations, and RTW Day artwork:
http://www.ridetowork.org/pages.php?pageid=8
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From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 14:04:57 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] EZ-Pass in MD Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:04:43 -0400 "We've had cars go through as fast as 80 mph and that simply isn't safe," says Kittleman. Wonder what's the fastest they've had a bike go through at? >From: Glenn Dysart >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: [dc-cycles] EZ-Pass in MD >Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:23:27 -0700 (PDT) > >Anyone seen this yet? > >http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=30&sid=543145 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 16:19:44 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls From: dan@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > What's funny is the hybrids such as the Toyota Prius > (or cars that use Toyota's technology) do best in the > congested stop and go traffic of the regular lanes as > their brakes regenerate electricity for the electric > motor. When they are moving 55+ they are no better or > maybe not as good as a regular compact car. > > Glenn We recently got a Prius for the wife, its been averaging 47mpg on the commute from Leesburg to National and local driving. The interior volume of the car is in the same class as the Accord, Passat, and Camry according to the EPA. They don't get their best mileage in congested traffic. They do make the biggest impact in fuel usage and pollution though. You guys should relax though, they loose their HOV privelages July 1, 2006. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 18:08:48 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:08:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Broga To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Anyone seen Sean Jordan? Looking to see if Sean Jordan is back in the area or lurking on the list . . . if you have his contact info you could e-mail me off line - Thanks! Jonathan Broga __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jul 15 20:10:25 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:17:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Shituff we used on the trip to AK To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" Thanks! Interesting post and good information. I had a front tube-tire blowout at high speed a couple of years ago. I kept the bike up (it was a straight section of road) and when i pulled over the tire was too hot to touch. This was at 34 psi, riding solo on a 750, but it was a scorching hot day. Higher pressure would have helped, i think. Stopping to check tire temp would have been a good idea, too. --garcia "Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." ~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jul 16 10:38:34 2005 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:38:23 -0400 From: "Dr. Corona" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I have a Prius and it gets about 15 MPG better than my motorcycle. I currently commute from Leesburg to Martinsburg WV and get about 53 MPG. There is a little learning curve, when I first got the car I was getting about 40-45 MPG. I do not think the MPG numbers are more inflated for hybrids than any other vehicle. I get tired of hearing how crappy my mileage really is, how bad the performance is, and what a poor buying decsion I made from people that have never owned/driven a hybrid. On another note, I was under the impression HOV lanes were implemented to help with pollution, not congestion. If that is the case then PZEV's(partial zero emissions vehicles), hybrid or not should have a place on HOV lanes. -Norris On 7/15/05, dan@XXXXXX wrote: > > What's funny is the hybrids such as the Toyota Prius > > (or cars that use Toyota's technology) do best in the > > congested stop and go traffic of the regular lanes as > > their brakes regenerate electricity for the electric > > motor. When they are moving 55+ they are no better or > > maybe not as good as a regular compact car. > > > > Glenn > > We recently got a Prius for the wife, its been averaging 47mpg on the > commute from Leesburg to National and local driving. The interior volume > of the car is in the same class as the Accord, Passat, and Camry according > to the EPA. > > They don't get their best mileage in congested traffic. They do make the > biggest impact in fuel usage and pollution though. You guys should relax > though, they loose their HOV privelages July 1, 2006. > > Dan > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jul 16 10:47:29 2005 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:47:23 -0400 From: Michael Jordan To: DC-Cycles , VStrom List Subject: [dc-cycles] Crossposted from the LDRider list - New Buell Buell is supposedly unveiling an adventure bike of some sort at the show next week. I think they worded it "adventure sport bike"..... See the teaser ad here http://www.buell.com/en_us/index_teaser.asp -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 USAF (Ret) NRA etc. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jul 16 12:38:27 2005 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:38:23 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "list-mc-trials" , "list-dcoffroad" CC: "list-potomacvintageriders@XXXXXX" , "list-nvtr" , "list-Yamaha_TY_Trials" , "Annable, Roger" , "List-dc cycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] Mick Andrews Vintage Trials Schools We have two vintage Trials Schools coming up, July 23 & 24, in Monrovia, Maryland, near Frederick (about an hour NW of Washington, DC). Mick Andrews, former World Champion, will be teaching a novice/intermediate course Saturday, and an intermediate/advanced course Sunday. The cost is $80 for each day. Mick was champion on the Ossa bike, which if I recall correctly became the Ossa MAR (Mick Andrews Replica). Mick was instrumental in designing the Yamaha TY250 of the early 1970's. Riders with these bikes may enjoy the school even more. Mick is a very good teacher, and tells a good story, too. I guarantee you'll have a good time, and you'll learn a lot about riding vintage Trials, too. We have a couple openings on Saturday, and several openings on Sunday. For more information, call 703-533-0743 (talk to Buz) or 703-217-1679 (talk to Chris), or email buzbrinig[at]his[dot]com or chris01[at]toward[dot]com Be sure to put "Trials" in the subject line. thanks, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jul 16 13:46:59 2005 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:45:20 -0400 From: smthng else To: DC Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] FS: New Yamaha oil filters Due to a slight screw up on someone's part, I recieved two new Yamaha oil filters that do not fit my FJR. They are new and in the box, ready for pickup by anyone who needs them and doesn't mind paying what I was charged for them. They are part number 5GH-13440-00 and according to the box, they fit: MC: 2000+ R1, R6, FZS1000, FZ6S, FZ6-N, "etc." ATV: YFM400A, SMB: RX10, RM10M, etc WV: FX1000, etc. outboard engine: F9.9/15/20/25/30/40/50/80/100/115 FL115 FT9.9/25/50 etc. If I'm reading that right, all you R1, R6, FZ1 or FZ6 owners should be good with this. If anyone wants them, I'm asking $16 for the pair. I'm in Springfield, but don't mind meeting somewhere as long as the distance is reasonable. Feel free to respond off-list if you're interested. --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jul 16 17:16:43 2005 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:16:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom De Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Crossposted from the LDRider list - New Buell To: DC-Cycles --- Michael Jordan wrote: > Buell is supposedly unveiling an adventure bike of > some sort at the show > next week. I think they worded it "adventure sport > bike"..... > I like Buell, its good to see them doing the things they have been over the last few years. Lots of different thinking - puts the other makers on guard. Tom de - home on a good ride day with a bad back :( 03 ST1300 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jul 16 17:19:00 2005 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:18:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom De Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] HOT lanes = Bike Tolls To: dan@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX > They don't get their best mileage in congested > traffic. They do make the > biggest impact in fuel usage and pollution though. > You guys should relax > though, they loose their HOV privelages July 1, > 2006. > > Dan > > I remember hearing something about them loosing HOV privelages, but I thought I must be a bad joke... Tom de 03 ST1300 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jul 17 22:43:07 2005 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:43:04 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: David Blumgart Subject: [dc-cycles] Experienced and ready to ride From a Sunday listing on the DC Craigslist MC sales page: "Brand new Black Ninja 250R. I bought the bike a month ago. I bought the bike to learn on and get my license. I am selling it because I am getting a CBR. The bike has only 450 miles on it and nicely broken in...." Let's get a pool going. How long 'til this squidlette crunches his CBR. I've got August 1st... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 18 06:31:29 2005 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:31:21 -0400 From: Michael Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Experienced and ready to ride >> "Brand new Black Ninja 250R. I bought the bike a month ago. I bought the >> bike to learn on and get my license. I am selling it because I am getting a >> CBR. The bike has only 450 miles on it and nicely broken in...." > > Let's get a pool going. How long 'til this squidlette crunches his > CBR. I've got August 1st... Maybe s/he's a fast learner. -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 USAF (Ret) NRA etc. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 18 07:53:50 2005 To: DC Cycles From: Randy Moran Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:53:37 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] Psycho Driver Alert: VA JMT-4248 (Almost) ran into a doozy on Halfway Road yesterday evening. Five friends and I had started down halfway when we came up on a small pickup truck. I figured he was trouble even before we knew for sure. A blue Ford Ranger with a cap on the bed. On the back window, in large homemade block letters it said, "What's the Rush?" Two more stickers (also appearing to be homemade) on the window said, "If you're in a hurry don't follow me," and some other "Slow Down"-themed message. True to form, the guy's doing about ten mph below the limit. Anyway, our lead rider passed in the passing zone near Hill school to which our hero responded by swerving into the the other lane. I had to wait and reassess, which meant the I was into the double yellow by the time I had a clear spot. The truck guy attempted to have me rear end him by jamming on his breaks, them moved into the middle of the road to block any passing. I went around him anyway and he moved over a little more, which caused a little consternation on my part. The rest of our guys thought better of trying to pass an obviously enraged psychopath, so the two of us waited at the BP in The Plains for the rest of them to arrive. Truck guy arrived a few minutes later, pointing at us and screaming obscenities. We invited him to get out of his truck which he did. I "explained" to him the what he was doing is one day going to kill someone, but he seemed oblivious. He told us that we need to slow down and that, "you crotchrocket cocksuckers think you're God." He was wearing an SCCA flaggers uniform, so I'm guessing he was on his way home from a weekend car race at Summit. Anyway, this one is dangerous, so look for the truck described above, bearing VA tags JMT-4248. Avoid. He obviously has some issues with bikes. RPM From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 18 08:15:49 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Psycho Driver Alert: VA JMT-4248 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:15:37 -0400 Are you telling the local authorities as well as us? >From: Randy Moran >To: DC Cycles >Subject: [dc-cycles] Psycho Driver Alert: VA JMT-4248 >Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:53:37 -0400 > >(Almost) ran into a doozy on Halfway Road yesterday evening. Five friends >and I had started down halfway when we came up on a small pickup truck. I >figured he was trouble even before we knew for sure. A blue Ford Ranger >with a cap on the bed. On the back window, in large homemade block letters >it said, "What's the Rush?" Two more stickers (also appearing to be >homemade) on the window said, "If you're in a hurry don't follow me," and >some other "Slow Down"-themed message. True to form, the guy's doing about >ten mph below the limit. Anyway, our lead rider passed in the passing zone >near Hill school to which our hero responded by swerving into the the >other lane. I had to wait and reassess, which meant the I was into the >double yellow by the time I had a clear spot. The truck guy attempted to >have me rear end him by jamming on his breaks, them moved into the middle >of the road to block any passing. I went around him anyway and he moved >over a little more, which caused a little consternation on my part. The >rest of our guys thought better of trying to pass an obviously enraged >psychopath, so the two of us waited at the BP in The Plains for the rest >of them to arrive. Truck guy arrived a few minutes later, pointing at us >and screaming obscenities. We invited him to get out of his truck which he >did. I "explained" to him the what he was doing is one day going to kill >someone, but he seemed oblivious. He told us that we need to slow down and >that, "you crotchrocket cocksuckers think you're God." He was wearing an >SCCA flaggers uniform, so I'm guessing he was on his way home from a >weekend car race at Summit. Anyway, this one is dangerous, so look for the >truck described above, bearing VA tags JMT-4248. Avoid. He obviously has >some issues with bikes. > >RPM > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 18 09:33:31 2005 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:33:24 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] almost bent my rim be aware of VDot's failure to put ANY markings up at mile 141.2 on I-95 northbound a little south of Quantico. The middle lane is not paved and the edge where pavement begins agains is super harsh. The forks bottomed hard! The rims seem to have escaped unscathed for which I'm grateful. It was 11pm last night and I tried to get as much sight distance as I could on the car ahead (about 4sec) but was boxed in on all sides by traffic going rather faster than me, so had no chance to see it in time to soften the approach. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 18 09:56:03 2005 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:55:52 -0400 From: Aaron Maurer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Experienced and ready to ride How about giving the rider some credit for knowing to start off with a smaller, less powerful bike? On 7/18/05, Michael Jordan wrote: > >> "Brand new Black Ninja 250R. I bought the bike a month ago. I bought the > >> bike to learn on and get my license. I am selling it because I am getting a > >> CBR. The bike has only 450 miles on it and nicely broken in...." > > > > Let's get a pool going. How long 'til this squidlette crunches his > > CBR. I've got August 1st... > > Maybe s/he's a fast learner. > > -- > Michael J. > '86 SRX-6 > '93 GSX1100G > '03 DL1000 > AMA > IBA #3901 > USAF (Ret) > NRA > etc. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 18 09:58:59 2005 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:58:51 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Experienced and ready to ride At 09:55 AM 7/18/2005, Aaron Maurer wrote: >How about giving the rider some credit for knowing to start off with a >smaller, less powerful bike? 450 miles? For someone who had the sense to start off with a less powerful bike, they sure didn't seem to display enough sense to stay on it long enough to learn anything. -aki >On 7/18/05, Michael Jordan wrote: > > >> "Brand new Black Ninja 250R. I bought the bike a month ago. I bought the > > >> bike to learn on and get my license. I am selling it because I am > getting a > > >> CBR. The bike has only 450 miles on it and nicely broken in...." > > > > > > Let's get a pool going. How long 'til this squidlette crunches his > > > CBR. I've got August 1st... > > > > Maybe s/he's a fast learner. > > > > -- > > Michael J. > > '86 SRX-6 > > '93 GSX1100G > > '03 DL1000 > > AMA > > IBA #3901 > > USAF (Ret) > > NRA > > etc. > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 18 10:11:59 2005 X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.81) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 18 Jul 2005 14:11:52 -0000 From: "David Blumgart" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:11:52 -0500 Subject: [dc-cycles] Experienced and ready to ride Aaron Maurer wrote: >> How about giving the rider some credit for knowing >> to start off with a smaller, less powerful bike? OK, I'll call him half-smart. And then he spent, well, almost a whole entire month and gee, almost 500 miles mastering motorcycle riding. Sure, he's ready for a 100 HP sport bike. Can I take back my reservation for Aug. 1 and, if someone's not already taken it, give him til next Saturday to prang? -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 18 10:16:50 2005 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:16:12 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: Aki Damme Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Experienced and ready to ride Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Maybe he's a huge fellow and can't take all of the social snickers. Maybe he realises as long as he respects (and doens't twist excessively) the throttle it doesn't matter what size bike he rides. Maybe he realises he can die on a 250 just as easily as on a cbr. Stupidity will get you killed, doesn't matter what you ride. could be an 80 cc dirt bike. Maybe he knows all that. Maybe he's ridden a cbr more than he's ridden the 250.. I would imagine, most who have would probably prefer the accelleration of the cbr. but who knows. I did see hte thread on CL, and it was kind of entertaining. :) On 7/18/05, Aki Damme wrote: > At 09:55 AM 7/18/2005, Aaron Maurer wrote: > > >How about giving the rider some credit for knowing to start off with a > >smaller, less powerful bike? > > > 450 miles? For someone who had the sense to start off with a less powerful > bike, > they sure didn't seem to display enough sense to stay on it long enough to > learn anything. > > -aki > > > > > >On 7/18/05, Michael Jordan wrote: > > > >> "Brand new Black Ninja 250R. I bought the bike a month ago. I bought the > > > >> bike to learn on and get my license. I am selling it because I am > > getting a > > > >> CBR. The bike has only 450 miles on it and nicely broken in...." > > > > > > > > Let's get a pool going. How long 'til this squidlette crunches his > > > > CBR. I've got August 1st... > > > > > > Maybe s/he's a fast learner. > > > > > > -- > > > Michael J. > > > '86 SRX-6 > > > '93 GSX1100G > > > '03 DL1000 > > > AMA > > > IBA #3901 > > > USAF (Ret) > > > NRA > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jul 18 10:22:56 2005 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:22:19 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: rich hall Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Psycho Driver Alert: VA JMT-4248 Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX You should have called the cops. You got six witnesses..vs 1. The cop probably could have charged him with road rage, and if he didn't want to, request his supervisor come to the scene... and tell them how if this man isnt' charged, you're going to let the local news channels now how the police ignored road rage crime. What can he be charged with, let us count the ways! On 7/18/05, rich hall wrote: > Are you telling the local authorities as well as us? > > >From: Randy Moran > >To: DC Cycles > >Subject: [dc-cycles] Psycho Driver Alert: VA JMT-4248 > >Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:53:37 -0400 > > > >(Almost) ran into a doozy on Halfway Road yesterday evening. Five friends > >and I had started down halfway when we came up on a small pickup truck. I > >figured he was trouble even before we knew for sure. A blue Ford Ranger > >with a cap on the bed. On the back window, in large homemade block letters > >it said, "What's the Rush?" Two more stickers (also appearing to be > >homemade) on the window said, "If you're in a hurry don't follow me," and > >some other "Slow Down"-themed message. True to form, the guy's doing about > >ten mph below the limit. Anyway, our lead rider passed in the passing zone > >near Hill school to which our hero responded by swerving into the the > >other lane. I had to wait and reassess, which meant the I was into the > >double yellow by the time I had a clear spot. The truck guy attempted to > >have me rear end him by jamming on his breaks, them moved into the middle > >of the road to block any passing. I went around him anyway and he moved > >over a little more, which caused a little consternation on my part. The > >rest of our guys thought better of trying to pass an obviously enraged > >psychopath, so the two of us waited at the BP in The Plains for the rest > >of them to arrive. Truck guy arrived a few minutes later, pointing at us > >and screaming obscenities. We invited him to get out of his truc