From: Carl Schelin To: Bruce Brownlee , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Rain and Gravel (was: Re: USAA Insurance getting off topic) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:26:28 -0400 On Friday 28 June 2002 19:29, Bruce Brownlee wrote: > hmmmm, manditory moto content.... lets see.... > well, new bike got rained on today for the first time, got that > unpleasantry out of the way. > "get used to it, there will be many more". and, picked up the first paint > chip. "thanks all > you dump trucks with the fantastic 'covers''" Yep, it rained on my new bike for the first time as well. No paint damage so far but I have picked up my fair share of gravel in the face. The carpenter bee at 70 on Saturday was an experience though ;-) The mark is just fading away. Many years ago ('81 or so) I was coming home from Alexandria and took the GW parkway. I walked into the 7/11 at the end and saw the face full of black flys except around the glasses :-) Nothing has beat the June bug though. I had to stop on the side of the road and clean it off with spit and grass. I always try to carry a rag now :-) Carl -- Carl Schelin _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Reply-To: "Matt Pasquali" From: "Matt Pasquali" To: Subject: howdy Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:14:07 -0400 Hey everyone. Im new to the list and the DC area. Im currently stationed at MCB Quantico and live down by Stafford. I moved up here from Austin, Texas, so I think Im slightly spoiled when it comes to riding roads. I dont know what the riding scene is like here, but I look forward to meeting more of the locals and finding the good roads. What are track days like up here? (I would LOVE to ride VIR). Btw- I ride an 02 GSX-R600 (the cooler blue/silver canadian one :) ) Just saying hey. Matt Pasquali _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: Carl Schelin To: "Matt Pasquali" , "Matt Pasquali" , Subject: Re: howdy Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:53:49 -0400 On Monday 01 July 2002 07:14, Matt Pasquali wrote: > Hey everyone. > Im new to the list and the DC area. As a fairly new member of the list, let me extend my welcome. > Im currently stationed at MCB Quantico > and live down by Stafford. Cool. I'm down in Dale City (Woodbridge). > I moved up here from Austin, Texas, so I think > Im slightly spoiled when it comes to riding roads. Meaning? I've been in Texas one time when I was heading for Ft. McClellon Alabama and missed my exit. Since I was flying at the time, I hung around in Tx for a few hours before heading back. Lots of twisties? Lots of flat straight roads? > I dont know what the > riding scene is like here, but I look forward to meeting more of the locals > and finding the good roads. What are track days like up here? (I would > LOVE to ride VIR). I'm sure others will chime in on this. I'd like to head to the track once but no racing. Too old for that ;-) > Btw- I ride an 02 GSX-R600 (the cooler blue/silver > canadian one :) ) > Hey, they're all cooler (well, cooler than a cage (well, most cages :-)). > Just saying hey. > Back atcha. > Matt Pasquali Carl '02 FXST -- Carl Schelin _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 08:19:50 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: howdy At 07:14 AM 7/1/02 -0400, you wrote: >Hey everyone. >Im new to the list and the DC area. Im currently stationed at MCB Quantico >and live down by Stafford. I moved up here from Austin, Texas, so I think Glad you made it over here, Matt :-) >Im slightly spoiled when it comes to riding roads. I dont know what the >riding scene is like here, but I look forward to meeting more of the locals >and finding the good roads. What are track days like up here? (I would LOVE >to ride VIR). Btw- I ride an 02 GSX-R600 (the cooler blue/silver canadian >one :) ) You should drop Jim Evans an e-mail and ask him about SP. He runs his CBR600 there on track days. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:35:15 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: Marsupials anti Suzuki ??? Wayne Reminisced - Before I left for a private track event in Memphis a few weeks ago, I ended up with a nail in my rear BT56 on my Eye-Abuser, er, Hayabusa ;-) ... [Dave] Even Kangaroos call them that, mate ! courtesey of the Ninja- list: From: ZXRider@XXXXXX To: zx@XXXXXX Subject: Re: ZX List: Sportec m1's Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 00:56:18 -0700 Content: text/plain A kangaroo mashed a eyeabuser........ Bwhahahahahaahaha !!! ____________________________ Logan D. Clark SF Bay Area, CA & Dallas, TX '97 Kawasaki ZX-11-D5 "Rocket" 214-676-9570 "If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space" ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 8:42 PM Subject: Re: ZX List: Sportec m1's This is a multipart message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >well... i imagine he has full coverage. yep, and due to the fact he's 40 + his insurance is relativly cheap.... >wonder what his deductible is? now, about 20 % max, his last bike, an eyeabuser was totaled by a kangaroo. >BTW... think he's interested in letting it go for a few centavos >on the peso? we need more binned bikes for our business. :-) i dare say the insurance company will own it now, i'd say its a writeoff Phil [Dave] all this brought about after some guy wadded his gsxr1k... Anyway, back to DC-MOTO... Got out today for about 4 hrs of riding and encountered several friendly cages. [Dave] Which is like saying, while on a safari to Africa..."while in the bush, we encountered several friendly Lions".... ;-) Twice while cruising down backroads, cages gave way when I came up on them fast (but not crowding or tailgating them). They'd find a place to slide over to the shoulder and wave me on. I'd give 'em a wave back after I was safely in front :-) Anyway, it was a nice change to be able to make it around on my favorite back roads without having some doofus in a car wanting to do the speed limit ;-) [Dave] I'll bet... That's rare indeed around here... It happens, but it's rare... Hell, the guys in the retirement home near my house have a network of seniors that are waiting to pull out in front of me. They're well equipped - walkie talkies, cell phones, '74 Buick station wagons with CB's - they're ready... You've got to get up pretty early to beat them too... they even have a mini bus on the weekends that follows the wife to various stores... While the wife is busy finding a spot to park, they parade into the store to buy one item, paid for with an out of state check... ;-) Since I race my car and need a new SA helmet I was considering buying a black one so that it could share duty between my car and motorcycle. Does anyone else use an SA helmet for street riding? Is there any reason not to do this? The only difference I know of is that the SA helmets I'm looking at have Nomex liners. [Dave] I've never been turned from a track day using my M/C (shoei rf800) Helmet, so have always used that. Seems to me you could just get a pullover nomex liner... Dave Yates -- Sponsored by: Want to play blackjack online? How about a good game of poker? Want to place a bet on the big game? Or just play some Roulette? Come to SearchGambling.com where you can search for it all! http://www.searchgambling.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:53:57 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: She hung up! One small step for man ... As I sat in a left-turn lane this morning, a lady in an ovloV came up on my right asking to move over. And she was holding her cell phone to her ear. So I let her in, and took advantage of her window being down to say "Hang up and drive!" Then I yelled "Hang Up!" twice more as she moved into the left turn lane. A few hundred feet later she hung up. Maybe she was finished with her conversation. Maybe a small amount of common sense got through. Chris Norloff _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 09:14:07 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: ZX-11 problems (was Re: Marsupials anti Suzuki ???) At 08:35 AM 7/1/02 -0400, you wrote: >[Dave] all this brought about after some guy wadded his gsxr1k... > >Anyway, back to DC-MOTO... > >Got out today for about 4 hrs of riding and encountered several >friendly cages. > >[Dave] Which is like saying, while on a safari to Africa..."while in >the bush, we encountered several friendly Lions".... ;-) HA! So true :-) Speaking of Ninjas, how do you sub to the Ninja list? A buddy of mine that recently bought a '90 ZX-11 is having troubles. I haven't talked to him in depth, but the gist of it was he left his house and the oil light came on and the bike died. Checked oil level, fine. Pushed it home and had to attend to other of life's matters. I figured I could point him in the direction of some online Ninja resources for help. Does the Ninja have an oil pressure sensor switch that kills the ignition with no oil pressure? I'm wondering if the bike has a faulty sensor that's causing the problem. It has really low miles on it, so unless there was some catastrophic failure (pickup fell off pump or ??), I can't see him truly having oil pressure problems. Thanks! -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:05:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: howdy To: Matt Pasquali , dc-cycles@XXXXXX you're spoiled because you lived and rode in austin, or because you moved here? have you looked at a map of the area yet? --- Matt Pasquali wrote: > Hey everyone. > Im new to the list and the DC area. Im currently > stationed at MCB Quantico > and live down by Stafford. I moved up here from Austin, > Texas, so I think > Im slightly spoiled when it comes to riding roads. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 08:54:06 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: Re: howdy Matt broke the list silnce introducing himself... On Monday 01 July 2002 07:14, Matt Pasquali wrote: > Hey everyone. > Im new to the list and the DC area. As a fairly new member of the list, let me extend my welcome. [Dave] As a fairly senior member of the list, ditto ! > Im currently stationed at MCB Quantico > and live down by Stafford. [Dave] You sure you don't want PW-cycles ? ;-) > I moved up here from Austin, Texas, so I think > Im slightly spoiled when it comes to riding roads. > I dont know what the > riding scene is like here, but I look forward to meeting more of the locals > and finding the good roads. What are track days like up here? (I would > LOVE to ride VIR). [Dave] A trip to & around Skyline Drive, 211, Harpers Ferry West By- God- VA, or pretty much most of WBGVA, will fill your twisty needs... so to speak. Wow... How many new guys since the beginning of '02 ??? Dave Yates -- Sponsored by: Want to play blackjack online? How about a good game of poker? Want to place a bet on the big game? Or just play some Roulette? Come to SearchGambling.com where you can search for it all! http://www.searchgambling.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:16:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Maddox To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: howdy On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 sdave@XXXXXX wrote: >Matt broke the list silnce introducing himself... > >On Monday 01 July 2002 07:14, Matt Pasquali wrote: >> Hey everyone. >> Im new to the list and the DC area. > >As a fairly new member of the list, let me extend my welcome. > >[Dave] As a fairly senior member of the list, ditto ! Stationed at Quantico, eh? Cammie green or Fed blue? I'm another newbie, so I'll be quiet now. 8-) SF! -- SIGFAULT: quote not generated Andrew Maddox, found at: madsox@XXXXXX _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:21:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Isaac Blanck Subject: What were all the bikes doing last night at To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX at the gas station on the south side of PA Ave. in DC just east of the Anacostia river; drove by last night in my cage (ah, the shame ....) and saw at leat 50 bikes, and really wanted to stop, but didn't since i was in my cage ... is that a frequent gathering? --- Andrew Maddox wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > > >Matt broke the list silnce introducing himself... > > > >On Monday 01 July 2002 07:14, Matt Pasquali wrote: > >> Hey everyone. > >> Im new to the list and the DC area. > > > >As a fairly new member of the list, let me extend > my welcome. > > > >[Dave] As a fairly senior member of the list, > ditto ! > > Stationed at Quantico, eh? Cammie green or Fed blue? > I'm another newbie, > so I'll be quiet now. 8-) > > SF! > > -- > SIGFAULT: quote not generated > Andrew Maddox, found at: madsox@XXXXXX > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Movie sniffers Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:25:08 -0400 Movies? Who's got time for movies? Hey did anyone catch the Isle of Mann on Speed. gb >"5 Times. That is the number of times more likely that a man who rides a >motorcycle will cry when watching a romantic movie as opposed to a man who >does not, as found by a survey of 1,100 men by Progressive Insurance." _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: Carl Schelin To: "Bruhl, George LT" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Movie sniffers Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:28:41 -0400 On Monday 01 July 2002 09:25, Bruhl, George LT wrote: > Movies? Who's got time for movies? Hey did anyone catch the Isle of Mann > on Speed. > A couple of times. What's "TT"? I was able to figure out the rest including the engine sizes (250, 400 and 600) based on the talking but not TT. Carl -- Carl Schelin _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 09:45:05 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: "Bruhl, George LT" CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Movie sniffers "Bruhl, George LT" wrote: > Movies? Who's got time for movies? Hey did anyone catch the Isle of Mann > on Speed. > > gb Erm, no. Have basic CoxSucker cable - no Speed channel. But alas, little time to watch the tube anyway. Bill _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 09:42:19 -0400 To: Carl Schelin , "Bruhl, George LT" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Movie sniffers Time Trials, as in Mille Miglia. -- Larry At 09:28 AM 7/1/02, Carl Schelin wrote: >On Monday 01 July 2002 09:25, Bruhl, George LT wrote: > > Movies? Who's got time for movies? Hey did anyone catch the Isle of Mann > > on Speed. > > > >A couple of times. What's "TT"? I was able to figure out the rest including >the engine sizes (250, 400 and 600) based on the talking but not TT. > >Carl >-- > Carl Schelin _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Perry Coleman" To: cschelin@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Movie sniffers Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 09:42:31 -0400 Carl, That's the "Tourist Trophy." It is perhaps the most famous motorcycle road race going. Perry >From: Carl Schelin >To: "Bruhl, George LT" , >"'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" >Subject: Re: Movie sniffers >Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:28:41 -0400 > >On Monday 01 July 2002 09:25, Bruhl, George LT wrote: > > Movies? Who's got time for movies? Hey did anyone catch the Isle of >Mann > > on Speed. > > > >A couple of times. What's "TT"? I was able to figure out the rest including >the engine sizes (250, 400 and 600) based on the talking but not TT. > >Carl >-- > Carl Schelin > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:46:27 -0400 From: Doc PC Reply-To: Doc PC To: Carl Schelin CC: "Bruhl, George LT" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re[2]: Movie sniffers >A couple of times. What's "TT"? I was able to figure out the rest including >the engine sizes (250, 400 and 600) based on the talking but not TT. If memory hasn't totally failed me by now, that should be "Tourist Trophy." Doc <1984 FXR, 1973 XLCH in basket> -- State Officer for Virginia Loudoun County, VA Chapter 156, Southern Cruisers Riding Club #156148 http://www.southerncruisers.net Southern Cruisers, National http://www.geocities.com/scruisers_loudoun/ Chapter 156, VA Website http://www.docsharleypages.com Doc's Harley Pages _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: Danny MotorPsychoL To: Isaac Blanck Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: What were all the bikes doing last night at Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 10:11:16 -0400 Yep. That and howard university mcdonalds on GA ave in NW dc. Also Barnes and nobles bookstore in rockville thursday nights. beware of bike jackers in DC especially at that same gas station or in the vicinity.. if you see a cop in the lot you should be OK though. On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 06:21:01 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: |>at the gas station on the south side of PA Ave. in DC |>just east of the Anacostia river; drove by last night |>in my cage (ah, the shame ....) and saw at leat 50 |>bikes, and really wanted to stop, but didn't since i |>was in my cage ... is that a frequent gathering? |>--- Andrew Maddox wrote: |>> |>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 sdave@XXXXXX wrote: |>> |>> >Matt broke the list silnce introducing himself... |>> > |>> >On Monday 01 July 2002 07:14, Matt Pasquali wrote: |>> >> Hey everyone. |>> >> Im new to the list and the DC area. |>> > |>> >As a fairly new member of the list, let me extend |>> my welcome. |>> > |>> >[Dave] As a fairly senior member of the list, |>> ditto ! |>> |>> Stationed at Quantico, eh? Cammie green or Fed blue? |>> I'm another newbie, |>> so I'll be quiet now. 8-) |>> |>> SF! |>> |>> -- |>> SIGFAULT: quote not generated |>> Andrew Maddox, found at: madsox@XXXXXX |>> |> |> |>__________________________________________________ |>Do You Yahoo!? |>Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup |>http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 07:42:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Tight Squeeze Racing Subject: Rent/Borrow a Versa-Haul To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, MARRC List , List SV650 , MicaPeak Race List Does anyone have a Versa-Haul(or similar contraption), that I can rent/borrow this weekend. A versa-haul is a motorcycle carrier that connects into a regular towing hitch. http://www.versahaul.com/ I'm in the DC area, but would head to Knoxville on Thursday to pick up a bike. (I'm going there to Atlanta to get a trailer, so a trailer isn't an option.) Thanks, Steve Clark TightSqueezeRacing.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 10:32:56 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: Re: Marsupials anti Suzuki ??? Wayne wondered - Speaking of Ninjas, how do you sub to the Ninja list? A buddy of mine that recently bought a '90 ZX-11 is having troubles. I haven't talked to him in depth, but the gist of it was he left his house and the oil light came on and the bike died. Checked oil level, fine. [Dave] odd... sub info can be had here: I'd be willing to converse with him if need be... Pushed it home and had to attend to other of life's matters. I figured I could point him in the direction of some online Ninja resources for help. Does the Ninja have an oil pressure sensor switch that kills the ignition with no oil pressure? I'm wondering if the bike has a faulty sensor that's causing the problem. It has really low miles on it, so unless there was some catastrophic failure (pickup fell off pump or ??), I can't see him truly having oil pressure problems. [Dave] Not that I'm aware, but, the whole family of '84 - '02 zx900A&B, 1kR, zx10, 11 & zzr12 + the ZRX 11 & 12 are prone to lunching the number 3 & 4 rod bearings / journals. They're both fed oil off the same oil source internally. It typically happens on drag bikes or oft wheelied bikes. Several companies; Muzzys, Westech, Mr. Turbo, SuperbikeMike; make bypass kits that route additional oil from the other side of the motor to the 3&4 journal area to help alleviate the problem. I have one on my bike. They help, but don't eliminate the problem. You would not necessarily hear 'death knock' or 'rod knock' pre failure, and this is exacerbated by the 11 being a noisy motor to begin with. Have him check the oil for excessive bearing material... anyway, HTH Dave -- Sponsored by: Want to play blackjack online? How about a good game of poker? Want to place a bet on the big game? Or just play some Roulette? Come to SearchGambling.com where you can search for it all! http://www.searchgambling.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Dave Cross" To: Subject: Re: Movie sniffers Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:06:51 -0400 > >"5 Times. That is the number of times more likely that a man who rides a > >motorcycle will cry when watching a romantic movie as opposed to a man who > >does not, as found by a survey of 1,100 men by Progressive Insurance." I think I figured out why the above is the case. My guess is that the motorcyclists is watching the romantic movie then realizes that instead of "watching this crap" he could be out riding with his buddies, and then starts to cry. dave _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Copeland, James" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: For Sale Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 12:43:17 -0400 Sorry for the spam, but I have a few things people may want to purchase. 1) Aria Quantum helmet- Used, front air vent on top is broken ( dropped in kitchen), red color, size (small). Price $125 Good for second lid! 2) Entire rear seat/fairing for 748/916/966- Red color, good condition, few minor marks- Price $100 3) Lower front fairing (Front brake side) 748/916/966- Red color, has marks from tip over in drive way- Price $45 Sorry, no pictures of the stuff, but if you know what these things are, then you have good idea of what it looks like. E-mail me for additional questions. Thanks, Jim _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:12:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Maddox To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New Guys (and Gals, probably) Dave asked >Wow... How many new guys since the beginning of '02 ??? So, here's one more saying 'hi'. Newbie, just getting back into riding after starting once, a few years ago, and quitting within a year due to a severe lack of money [2] which made it impossible to fix a total electrical breakdown [1] of the ride at the time (80-something Honda CB650) [3]. Now I'm older, married, gainfully employed[4] and working on convincing SWMBO that it's time for me to have a mid-life crisis consisting mainly of buying a motorcycle again. So, that's me - shall I ask for bike-choosing/buying advice, or look through the archives more thoroughly first? That seems like a FAQ subject... -- SIGFAULT: quote not generated Andrew Maddox, found at: madsox@XXXXXX [1] I think it needed a new alternator, maybe some wiring work, but [2] I mean, I was *totally* broke at the time. It was "get the bike fixed" or "pay the rent for another month." See [4] [3] Nice bike, just about right for me, when it was running %-) [4] I'm a computer geek (systems/network type), like some others on this list whose names I've already seen. Doing quite nicely now after bailing out of my last employer 3 weeks before they got sold off by Corporate as a moneypit - ha-ha-ha-HAH! _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Content-Identifier: RE: New Guys Autoforwarded: FALSE Precedence: first-class Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 14:38:44 -0400 From: "Pelletier, Nina" Subject: RE: New Guys To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" (Receipt Notification Requested) Yeah, probable gal here -- I'm new since '02 as well, though I've been actively lurking since April. I haven't been riding for very long -- just started this spring after two years riding pillion (I loved the thread on significant others and riding) -- or very often lately, with the exception of a great weekend trip to Harper's Ferry a few weeks ago, where I learned that stopping on a hill at a stop sign at a 'T' intersection preparatory to making a right hand turn is a skill I definitely need to practice! I have learned a lot from folks on the list in the short time I've been here. Nina 1981 Moto Guzzi V50 Monza 2001 Kawasaki W650 (a great beginner bike!) -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Maddox [mailto:madsox@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 2:13 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New Guys (and Gals, probably) Dave asked >Wow... How many new guys since the beginning of '02 ??? So, here's one more saying 'hi'. Newbie, just getting back into riding after starting once, a few years ago, and quitting within a year due to a severe lack of money [2] which made it impossible to fix a total electrical breakdown [1] of the ride at the time (80-something Honda CB650) [3]. Now I'm older, married, gainfully employed[4] and working on convincing SWMBO that it's time for me to have a mid-life crisis consisting mainly of buying a motorcycle again. So, that's me - shall I ask for bike-choosing/buying advice, or look through the archives more thoroughly first? That seems like a FAQ subject... -- SIGFAULT: quote not generated Andrew Maddox, found at: madsox@XXXXXX [1] I think it needed a new alternator, maybe some wiring work, but [2] I mean, I was *totally* broke at the time. It was "get the bike fixed" or "pay the rent for another month." See [4] [3] Nice bike, just about right for me, when it was running %-) [4] I'm a computer geek (systems/network type), like some others on this list whose names I've already seen. Doing quite nicely now after bailing out of my last employer 3 weeks before they got sold off by Corporate as a moneypit - ha-ha-ha-HAH! _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 11:45:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Subject: Speed's Cycle To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX All, I'm considering trading my Speed Triple in on a Ducati S4. So far I'm looking at Speed's Cycle or Clinton Cycles (my current dealer) as the dealer. I'd appreciate any comments pro/con, or suggestions for another dealer (though I'd hate to travel farther than Speed's -I live in Arlington if it makes any difference). [shameless plug] Or, if anyone wants a good deal on a '98 Speed Triple (10K miles, fuel-injected 885 engine, only 500 miles on BT012s, spotless bodywork and stock except for quick release seat, fork protectors - I'm thinking around $6000) let me know. I'm "digested," so responses cc:ed to my address are appreciated. Thanks, Aaron __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 16:24:28 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: DC Cycles Search Down The backend for the dc-cycles.com search is HT Dig, which has a vulnerability and no patch. I have temporarily disabled the search function. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:27:58 -0400 (EDT) From: dan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short I probably should have taken it as a sign to stay in bed when I overslept Sat morning. I had to get out the door in 10 minutes in order to meet Steve, Kevin and the other Dan in time. We met up at Sheetz where we left to hit 211. Somewhere on 211 I managed to lose my brand new digital camera. I had forgotten to zip up my pocket in the rush that I was in. We spent about 30 minutes looking for it on the roadside, no luck. Luckily my credit card covers theft/loss for the first 90 days. Then kevin loses his owners manual, we end up turning around to get that. Somwhere I hit a patch of gravel and do a nifty fishtail through a turn. Other than that the ride was great until we got lost somewhere in West VA on CR-13. CR-13 (it might have been CR-13-1 by then, is a one lane road covered in gravel. We were going nice and slow taking our time. I went over a slight hill, at the end of a turn, hit a rather large stick that I didn't notice because I was paying attention to the gravel (now paranoid of the stuff) further ahead. The stick managed to get the bike quite unsettled and pointed in the wrong direction, heading right for a ditch. Looking back I may have been able to REALLY lean the bike over and make it through the turn, but I was pointed right into the ditch and intincts were to scrub off ALL speed. I hit the brakes hard, locked them up and went into the ditch. Damage to the bike was minimal, some scrapes and wind screen had popped out. A few zip ties later (and some blood, I cut myself with the knife) and all was well. We were back on the road, still lost, but everything was ok. We decided it was a good time to stop for the night. Well it turns out there is a blues festival in Summerville, so there were no rooms, even at the dumpiest motel. So we ended up heading for Sutton after getting a reservation there. The next morning, it was little chilly but it looked like a good day to ride. I was a little gun shy after yesterday's incident. So I take it nice and easy. We hit some really great roads. Then I get stung on the neck by a bee just riding down the road. Then Kevin almost runs out of gas and we stop to fuel up. After fueling up we start climbing into another mountain. I start feeling really good again, start pushing it a little more into the turns, everything is going great. My confidence is back up, I'm having a blast. So I go into a pretty tight corner, slightly tighter than I expected, so I end up using every last bit of the road. Well almost into the end of the turn, the road got narrower. It used to be there at one time, but apparetly is just worn/washed away. I hit dirt. Bike low sides, we both fly through some gravel, then fall off a 50 or so foot drop of the side of the hill. The bike makes it down quite a ways, I end up sliding half way down. I try to walk up the hill to let everyone know I'm fine. This isn't quite so easy though, the hill is so steep and muddy, getting up is a PITA. After convincing everyone I was fine(it wasn't easy this time), we try to get someone to pull the bike up (its apparent I won't be riding it home). My cell phone is dead b/c its been in analog mode, Steve's has no service and Kevin's can barely get a signal. Kevin finally gets through. About 1/2 an hour later a State trooper makes his way up. We wait another 30 for the tow trucks. The trooper writes up the report, bike gets pulled out. Its a total mess. I get the info from the wrecking place and we're back on the road, minus one YZF-600R. I'm just fine, have a few scrapes, can't even see them from more than a foot away. My arms are pretty sore from hanging on to the back of Steve's VFR for a couple of hundred miles. I'm thankfull and lucky that I walked away with nothing more that a few scratches and a bruised ego. The JR Phoenix pants, gloves and jacket held up fine. Next long road trip I take, you guy's will see me a mile away with rabbit's feet, horseshoes, four leaf clovers and what ever other lucky charms glued to my bike. Oh, and I'll be leaving a way bigger margin for error/mishaps. Now the real headache starts... the insurance game. Dan _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:31:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, dan wrote: > I'm thankful and lucky that I walked away with nothing more that a > few scratches and a bruised ego. The JR Phoenix pants, gloves and > jacket held up fine. Bletch. Sorry to hear about it. Glad you came out okay. Enquiring minds want to know: What kind of helmet were you wearing, and how did it hold up? Fish. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: Rich Hall To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:35:31 -0400 How is the bike? I saw a '00 black YZF w/ two bros in the Post this am for 5.5k. From: dan [mailto:dan@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:28 PM I probably should have taken it as a sign to stay in bed when I overslept Sat morning. I had to get out the door in 10 minutes in order to meet Steve, Kevin and the other Dan in time. We met up at Sheetz where we left to hit 211. Somewhere on 211 I managed to lose my brand new digital camera. I had forgotten to zip up my pocket in the rush that I was in. We spent about 30 minutes looking for it on the roadside, no luck. Luckily my credit card covers theft/loss for the first 90 days. Then kevin loses his owners manual, we end up turning around to get that. Somwhere I hit a patch of gravel and do a nifty fishtail through a turn. Other than that the ride was great until we got lost somewhere in West VA on CR-13. CR-13 (it might have been CR-13-1 by then, is a one lane road covered in gravel. We were going nice and slow taking our time. I went over a slight hill, at the end of a turn, hit a rather large stick that I didn't notice because I was paying attention to the gravel (now paranoid of the stuff) further ahead. The stick managed to get the bike quite unsettled and pointed in the wrong direction, heading right for a ditch. Looking back I may have been able to REALLY lean the bike over and make it through the turn, but I was pointed right into the ditch and intincts were to scrub off ALL speed. I hit the brakes hard, locked them up and went into the ditch. Damage to the bike was minimal, some scrapes and wind screen had popped out. A few zip ties later (and some blood, I cut myself with the knife) and all was well. We were back on the road, still lost, but everything was ok. We decided it was a good time to stop for the night. Well it turns out there is a blues festival in Summerville, so there were no rooms, even at the dumpiest motel. So we ended up heading for Sutton after getting a reservation there. The next morning, it was little chilly but it looked like a good day to ride. I was a little gun shy after yesterday's incident. So I take it nice and easy. We hit some really great roads. Then I get stung on the neck by a bee just riding down the road. Then Kevin almost runs out of gas and we stop to fuel up. After fueling up we start climbing into another mountain. I start feeling really good again, start pushing it a little more into the turns, everything is going great. My confidence is back up, I'm having a blast. So I go into a pretty tight corner, slightly tighter than I expected, so I end up using every last bit of the road. Well almost into the end of the turn, the road got narrower. It used to be there at one time, but apparetly is just worn/washed away. I hit dirt. Bike low sides, we both fly through some gravel, then fall off a 50 or so foot drop of the side of the hill. The bike makes it down quite a ways, I end up sliding half way down. I try to walk up the hill to let everyone know I'm fine. This isn't quite so easy though, the hill is so steep and muddy, getting up is a PITA. After convincing everyone I was fine(it wasn't easy this time), we try to get someone to pull the bike up (its apparent I won't be riding it home). My cell phone is dead b/c its been in analog mode, Steve's has no service and Kevin's can barely get a signal. Kevin finally gets through. About 1/2 an hour later a State trooper makes his way up. We wait another 30 for the tow trucks. The trooper writes up the report, bike gets pulled out. Its a total mess. I get the info from the wrecking place and we're back on the road, minus one YZF-600R. I'm just fine, have a few scrapes, can't even see them from more than a foot away. My arms are pretty sore from hanging on to the back of Steve's VFR for a couple of hundred miles. I'm thankfull and lucky that I walked away with nothing more that a few scratches and a bruised ego. The JR Phoenix pants, gloves and jacket held up fine. Next long road trip I take, you guy's will see me a mile away with rabbit's feet, horseshoes, four leaf clovers and what ever other lucky charms glued to my bike. Oh, and I'll be leaving a way bigger margin for error/mishaps. Now the real headache starts... the insurance game. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:40:06 -0400 (EDT) From: dan To: Fish Flowers cc: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short HJC CL-12, but it didn't touch the ground. > > Enquiring minds want to know: What kind of helmet were you wearing, and > how did it hold up? > > Fish. > > -- _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 13:39:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short To: dan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX dude.... for dc-cycles rides it is ONE CRASH PER RIDER PER RIDE. get it straight. ;) glad to hear you're ok. reading the story i wasn't sure how it would turn out.... sounded pretty darn lucky to me (despite the title of this thread) --- dan wrote: > I probably should have taken it as a sign to stay in bed > when I overslept > Sat morning'. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:44:43 -0400 (EDT) From: dan To: Rich Hall cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Rich Hall wrote: > How is the bike? I saw a '00 black YZF w/ two bros in the Post this am for > 5.5k. > I have this gut feeling that it will be within $5 of being totaled. If it is totaled, I'm thinkin something along the lines of a four wheeler, I hear they do better with gravel and dirt. And according to the trooper they are legal on the streets of WV. Dan _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: bernescut@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:48:02 -0400 Dan: Glad you're here to write this up. Sorry about the crash, I hope the insurance issue works out. Cedric _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:51:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, dan wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Rich Hall wrote: > > > How is the bike? I saw a '00 black YZF w/ two bros in the Post this am for > > 5.5k. > > > > I have this gut feeling that it will be within $5 of being totaled. If it > is totaled, I'm thinkin something along the lines of a four wheeler, I > hear they do better with gravel and dirt. And according to the trooper > they are legal on the streets of WV. Forgive me for asking this, but, how long have/had you had this bike? -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 16:58:10 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short At 04:27 PM 7/1/2002 -0400, dan wrote: Dan, GOD DAMN!! I would made a u-turn right after I lost the digital camera. (Just got a new one myself, a Canon S30 woo! woo!). Really sorry to hear about the mishaps. But the best part is that you're alive and well. No matter how painful losing the bike is, *that* can always be replaced. Good to hear everyone made it back in one piece. Maybe someone up there was trying to stop you from something even *worse* down the road. Like maybe a Gold Wing convention or something? ;-) cheers, -aki _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:03:09 -0400 (EDT) From: dan To: "Daniel H. Brown" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short > Forgive me for asking this, but, how long have/had you had this bike? > > > -- > Dan Brown > brown@XXXXXX > 3 months, 2406 miles. -- _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Scott, Wellesley E." To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Yamaha RD350 Parts Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 16:59:12 -0400 I know it's a bit of an odd request, but I seized by 1973 RD350 on the beltway Saturday night. Now I need to track down some RD spares and was just wondering if someone had any floating around. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel H. Brown [mailto:brown@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:51 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, dan wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Rich Hall wrote: > > > How is the bike? I saw a '00 black YZF w/ two bros in the Post this am for > > 5.5k. > > > > I have this gut feeling that it will be within $5 of being totaled. If it > is totaled, I'm thinkin something along the lines of a four wheeler, I > hear they do better with gravel and dirt. And according to the trooper > they are legal on the streets of WV. Forgive me for asking this, but, how long have/had you had this bike? -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "DAN KENNEY" To: dan@XXXXXX, brown@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 21:33:04 +0000

I rode on and around 211 with Collin and the old DC-Cycles crew quite a bit. This is no place to learn!!.  Dan you need to take it easy and get to the point you do not need to think about how to react in a bad situation, instincts and experience are a big part. Always wear full leathers and be ready to ride hard when you go to 211. As my wife says if you get two guys together with 2 pogo sticks they will end up racing!.  Get yourself a dirt bike and ride , wheelie, and wreck until it is second nature. It might save your life. Oh yeah it was quite a site watching Collin get on a clapped out Yamaha Maxim and dusting everyone. It was also cool to watch him wheelie up and down 211 on my TL1000s.

Ride safe and God bless.

Dan Kenney

Blue 2001 Honda Goldwing GL1800a (ABS)

 

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_ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 17:54:31 -0400 (EDT) From: dan To: DAN KENNEY cc: brown@XXXXXX, Subject: RE: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, DAN KENNEY wrote: > > I rode on and around 211 with Collin and the old DC-Cycles crew quite > a bit. This is no place to learn!!.M- Dan you need to take it easy and > get to the point you do not need to think about how to react in a bad > situation, instincts and experience are a big part. Always wear full > leathers and be ready to ride hard when you go to 211. As my wife > says if you get two guys together with 2 pogo sticks they will end up > racing!.M- Get yourself a dirt bike and ride , wheelie, and wreck > until it is second nature. It might save your life. Oh yeah it was > quite a site watching Collin get on a clapped out Yamaha Maxim and > dusting everyone. It was also cool to watch him wheelie up and down > 211 on my TL1000s. > While I'm sure inexperience played a part in both mishaps, I'm not exactly green to riding. The dirt bike thing, great idea, had one, Spent 4 years trying to kill it. Flew off many a time. All I said was THIS bike had 2406 miles, I have a bit more riding experience. Its my third street bike that I have owned. Granted the other two were cruisers. I've burned up 211 a few times. This weekend included. 211 has very few surprises, its quite well maintained. The two mishaps were NOT on 211. I WISH I stayed on 211. I'd still have my bike. Dan _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "dccycles" , "dan" Subject: RE: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:13:45 -0400 Sorry to hear about your crashes man. I was in Wva that day too, i didnt go with you guys :). But i ended up doing 750 miles on my r1 in one day. Maybe next time you guys can come with me, im blessed with good karma. I usually post my rides up in www.sportbikes.net and www.advrider.com and www.sport-touring.net . You ever thought of getting a dual sport bike? They are great to learn on, and provide tons of fun. If you get tired of the power of the bike on the street. They are much more forgivable than sportbikes. Ricardo _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:24:57 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short To: Ricardo Pontes Cc: dccycles , dan Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > Sorry to hear about your crashes man. I was in Wva that day too, i didnt go > with you guys :). But i ended up doing 750 miles on my r1 in one day. That's quite a haul, 750 miles of squiggly roads on an R1. Not a bad day's work... :) Horkster -- Mandatory Second Line (Chatty Moron Trademark) Dale Horstman - horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:45:45 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: Rent/Borrow a Versa-Haul At 07:42 AM 7/1/02 -0700, you wrote: >Does anyone have a Versa-Haul(or similar contraption), that I can >rent/borrow this weekend. > >A versa-haul is a motorcycle carrier that connects into a regular >towing hitch. http://www.versahaul.com/ > >I'm in the DC area, but would head to Knoxville on Thursday to pick up >a bike. (I'm going there to Atlanta to get a trailer, so a trailer >isn't an option.) > >Thanks, > >Steve Clark >TightSqueezeRacing.org I have a flat deck/basket that mounts in the receiver of my Suburban. It holds 500lbs. It's about as wide as the bumper on my Suburban and probably 1/2 as long as it is wide. It's yours to borrow (free) if you want to try it out. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:51:46 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Jeff Steele Subject: Route to Harper's Ferry Could someone please post the route you took to Harper's Ferry on your recent trip? I'm planning a trip there now. Thanks much, Jeff _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 19:26:18 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: Marsupials anti Suzuki ??? At 10:32 AM 7/1/02 -0400, you wrote: >[Dave] odd... >sub info can be had here: > >I'd be willing to converse with him if need be... Thanks, Dave. I'm going to forward him this e-mail and your addy. I appreciate it. >[Dave] Not that I'm aware, but, the whole family of '84 - '02 >zx900A&B, 1kR, zx10, 11 & zzr12 + the ZRX 11 & 12 are prone to >lunching the number 3 & 4 rod bearings / journals. They're both fed >oil off the same oil source internally. It typically happens on drag >bikes or oft wheelied bikes. Several companies; Muzzys, Westech, Mr. >Turbo, SuperbikeMike; make bypass kits that route additional oil >from the other side of the motor to the 3&4 journal area to help >alleviate the problem. I have one on my bike. They help, but don't >eliminate the problem. You would not necessarily hear 'death knock' >or 'rod knock' pre failure, and this is exacerbated by the 11 being a >noisy motor to begin with. Have him check the oil for excessive >bearing material... > >anyway, HTH > >Dave Will do. I'm heading over there in about an hour to check his progress on the oil change. This bike has only about 3500 miles on it (even though it's a '90), so I'm hoping it isn't serious engine trouble. -- Wayne _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 18:36:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Subject: Speed's Cycle (2nd try) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX 1) Sorry about the weekend ride Dan. Glad you're okay. 2) [The problem with digest mode is you're never really sure if your post is interrupting a fascinating discussion about insurance, or right before a bad-luck story, causing said post to get buried. Oy.] Let me try one more time, anyone have experience with Speed's Cycle as a Duc dealer? Care to compare/contrast tell me about Speed's and or Clinton Cycles as a dealer? Thanks, Aaron __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:18:57 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short Sounds like your ready for an Iron Butt ride. On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > Sorry to hear about your crashes man. I was in Wva that day too, i didnt go > with you guys :). But i ended up doing 750 miles on my r1 in one day. Maybe > next time you guys can come with me, im blessed with good karma. I usually > post my rides up in www.sportbikes.net and www.advrider.com and > www.sport-touring.net . _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:28:37 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Guns for sale Since I've been out of work for a while and plan on ging on a long motorcycle trip I'm planning on selling my firearms to fund the trip. If you're interested send me an email off list for a descriptions and prices. Hugh _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 23:59:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Maddox To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: ISO: new wheels That pesky new guy again, just putting out the word. If anybody knows of or has something in the 500-650cc range, a standard or cruiser bike, that's in need of a new home, let me know... I might be interested. Or if you'd like to give advice on what to (re)start with, let me know that and I'll follow up off-list. Thanks! andy -- SIGFAULT: quote not generated Andrew Maddox, found at: madsox@XXXXXX _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: Carl Schelin To: Andrew Maddox , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New Guys Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:25:14 -0400 On Monday 01 July 2002 14:12, Andrew Maddox wrote: > [4] I'm a computer geek (systems/network type), like some others on this > list whose names I've already seen. Doing quite nicely now after bailing > out of my last employer 3 weeks before they got sold off by Corporate as a > moneypit - ha-ha-ha-HAH! You know, I thought your name looked familiar. I had to check the archives though. Are there any other dc-sage list members here? Carl _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Subject: RE: Guns for sale From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:08:26 -0400 To: "hcaldwell@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Hugh, You should be shot (with your own guns) for doing this. %^) Chuck Original Message: ----------------- From: hcaldwell hcaldwell@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 22:28:37 -0400 (EDT) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Guns for sale Since I've been out of work for a while and plan on ging on a long motorcycle trip I'm planning on selling my firearms to fund the trip. If you're interested send me an email off list for a descriptions and prices. Hugh -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:04:17 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: RE: Guns for sale Chuck spewed forth his olfactorily offending comments - Hugh, You should be shot (with your own guns) for doing this. %^) Chuck [Dave] Wouldn't the CATO institute say 'his property, he can do as he wishes...'... Since this is DC-CYCLES, and he's doing it for MOTO purposes, the sale is permitted, under the list charter. You HAVE read the list charter, haven't you, Chuck ???? Besides which, Hugh is has realized that he wants to sell me at least one of his 'death sticks'... and go home & reevaluate his life ;-) or something like that... Dave -- Sponsored by: Want to play blackjack online? How about a good game of poker? Want to place a bet on the big game? Or just play some Roulette? Come to SearchGambling.com where you can search for it all! http://www.searchgambling.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 09:47:03 -0200 From: dan carr Subject: Re: Yamaha RD350 Parts To: DC-Cycles , "Scott, Wellesley E." I don't have any but these sites should have what you need. Good Luck. Dan http://www.2strokes.com/index.htm http://www.rz350parts.com/ http://www.ifrance.com/rd-rz350lc/pagerzunlimited.htm http://2strokefans.www2.50megs.com/cycles/2strokelinks.htm The last one is a links page to just about every two-stoke site imaginable. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott, Wellesley E." To: Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 6:59 PM Subject: Yamaha RD350 Parts > I know it's a bit of an odd request, but I seized by 1973 RD350 on the > beltway Saturday night. Now I need to track down some RD spares and was > just wondering if someone had any floating around. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel H. Brown [mailto:brown@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 4:51 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short > > > > > On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, dan wrote: > > > On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Rich Hall wrote: > > > > > How is the bike? I saw a '00 black YZF w/ two bros in the Post this am > for > > > 5.5k. > > > > > > > I have this gut feeling that it will be within $5 of being totaled. If it > > > is totaled, I'm thinkin something along the lines of a four wheeler, I > > hear they do better with gravel and dirt. And according to the trooper > > they are legal on the streets of WV. > > Forgive me for asking this, but, how long have/had you had this bike? > > > -- > Dan Brown > brown@XXXXXX > > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:54:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Speed's Cycle (2nd try) To: Aaron , dc-cycles@XXXXXX if there is a decent duc dealer in the area, i'd also like to know. i was unaware that speed's cycle was a duc dealership. as of now, my next service will be handled by motoeuropa (http://www.motoeuropa.com) in richmond. monster s4, eh? kickass ride.... --- Aaron wrote: > 1) Sorry about the weekend ride Dan. Glad you're > okay. > > 2) [The problem with digest mode is you're never > really sure if your post is interrupting a fascinating > discussion about insurance, or right before a bad-luck > story, causing said post to get buried. Oy.] > > Let me try one more time, anyone have experience with > Speed's Cycle as a Duc dealer? Care to > compare/contrast tell me about Speed's and or Clinton > Cycles as a dealer? > > Thanks, > > Aaron __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 06:59:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short To: dan , DAN KENNEY Cc: brown@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- dan wrote: > 211 has very few surprises, its quite well maintained. have a close look at the pavement heading east on the east side of the gap. shit. pure shit. someone recently told me that va. has no state cash for road projects.... is this true? -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Speed's Cycle (2nd try) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:53:59 -0400 Yes, Speed's is a duc and moto-guzzi dealer. They had a nice display at the Balto bike show. They also work on BMWs and support the community. Nice guy, Speed. Check out http://www.speedscycle.com/ LindaT. Custom TankBags Now - TankBags for 1800 Wings Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) AMA IBA HSTA BMWBMW 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.customtankbags.com Tom Gimer asked: if there is a decent duc dealer in the area, i'd also like to know. i was unaware that speed's cycle was a duc dealership. as of now, my next service will be handled by motoeuropa (http://www.motoeuropa.com) in richmond. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Scott, Wellesley E." To: "'dan carr'" , DC-Cycles Subject: RE: Yamaha RD350 Parts Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:59:44 -0400 Thanks for the links Dan. Ahhh, I love the smell of two-stroke in the morning. -----Original Message----- From: dan carr [mailto:djcarr1@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 7:47 AM To: DC-Cycles; Scott, Wellesley E. Subject: Re: Yamaha RD350 Parts I don't have any but these sites should have what you need. Good Luck. Dan http://www.2strokes.com/index.htm http://www.rz350parts.com/ http://www.ifrance.com/rd-rz350lc/pagerzunlimited.htm http://2strokefans.www2.50megs.com/cycles/2strokelinks.htm The last one is a links page to just about every two-stoke site imaginable. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:04:01 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: road maintenance $$$ TG asks > 211 has very few surprises, its quite well maintained. someone recently told me that va. has no state cash for road projects.... is this true? [Dave] Pretty much. They were reimbursing 50% of the county car taxes, then 70, and the GA just kept spending money like they were printing the damn stuff themselves... Not that MD is any better at road maintenance, but VDOT needs some more funds. They don't need it from a tax increse, but they need more funding. Roads in VA areprobably going to deteriorate for 2 or 3 more years before we climb out of this money pit... Dave -- Sponsored by: Want to play blackjack online? How about a good game of poker? Want to place a bet on the big game? Or just play some Roulette? Come to SearchGambling.com where you can search for it all! http://www.searchgambling.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 10:28:23 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Tom Gimer CC: dan , DAN KENNEY , brown@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short Tom Gimer wrote: > someone recently told me that va. has no state cash for > road projects.... is this true? True. Former Gov Jimbo Bubba Gilmore's ill-planned car tax rebate coupled with a decline in the economy and financial hi-jinks perpetrated by the VDOT has pushed the Commonwealth of Virginia into near bankruptcy. Of course the taxpayers liked the reduction in car tax, but the state then cut back on money sent to the counties for education and fire/police services and road improvements as well, pushing the counties into the red. Next up for revenue, house tax. In the last two years my 6 month house tax bill has rocketed up from $1100 and change to near $1500, roughly what I *saved* on car tax. And we still have no money for roads. Bill _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Subject: RE: RE: Guns for sale From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:34:23 -0400 To: "sdave@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Dave, You should be shot for aiding and abetting. Chuck Original Message: Besides which, Hugh is has realized that he wants to sell me at least one of his 'death sticks'... and go home & reevaluate his life ;-) -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 10:38:01 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short At 10:28 AM 7/2/2002, William J. Huson wrote: >True. Former Gov Jimbo Bubba Gilmore's ill-planned car tax rebate >coupled with a decline in the economy and financial hi-jinks perpetrated >by the VDOT has pushed the Commonwealth of Virginia into near >bankruptcy. If he could see into the future, then it would be ill planned. No one wanted that car tax. Everything was in surplus at the time, then the bottom fell out of the economy. If they had just repealed the tax, it wouldn't have been so bad. But no - the state is also making up the money lost to the counties. Gilmore got elected partly because he promised to repeal that car tax. I'm glad he had the balls to stick it out. Its a lot harder to get taxes repealed than it is to levy them. Yeah - we have to tighten the buckle quite a bit, but after seeing the day to day waste in VA government, I'm pretty sure they can trim the fat in a lot of other ways.... ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA ~=~ NMA ~=~ NRA _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 10:46:32 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: sdave@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: road maintenance $$$ sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > [Dave] Pretty much. They were reimbursing 50% of the county car > taxes, then 70, and the GA just kept spending money like they were > printing the damn stuff themselves... Not that MD is any better at > road maintenance, but VDOT needs some more funds. They don't need it > from a tax increse, but they need more funding. Hmm, so where does VDOT get funding if not from tax revenue? That would be state, federal, or county/city taxes. WAIT! Yes, slipping into conserv repub mode, how about cutting off all social sevices! Yeah, let the little rug-rats who didn't choose to be born into poverty starve to death. Probably improve the breed anyway, sorta like eugenics. My suggestion would be to scrap the expensive SOL testing program, nicknamed Shit Outta Luck tests by the students. As a former educator I don't like SOLs and the teaching to the test required. Studetns memorize and spew factiods, which has little to do with the educational goal of learning how to *think* in a logical manner. Besides, the teen-critters allready take dozens of tests. Soon they'll be spending half the educational year with a #2 pencil in hand. Also, we could carve down the size of the VA government which has ballooned 70% under the "less government" administrations of Gov Allen and Gilmore. I think your 2 to 3 year estimate is optimistic, Dave. VA has been screwed to the max, and unless the economy takes a hard upswing it's gonna stay screwed. A tax increase would do it, but nooo, we want all those upscale services for FREE! Bill _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:30:18 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: RE: RE: RE: Guns for sale Chuck, I'll be sure to shoot a target with your likeness on it, next range day. ;-0 Dave Dave, You should be shot for aiding and abetting. Chuck Original Message: -- Sponsored by: Want to play blackjack online? How about a good game of poker? Want to place a bet on the big game? Or just play some Roulette? Come to SearchGambling.com where you can search for it all! http://www.searchgambling.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 10:44:14 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short At 10:38 AM 7/2/2002 -0400, Troutman wrote: >At 10:28 AM 7/2/2002, William J. Huson wrote: >>True. Former Gov Jimbo Bubba Gilmore's ill-planned car tax rebate >>coupled with a decline in the economy and financial hi-jinks perpetrated >>by the VDOT has pushed the Commonwealth of Virginia into near >>bankruptcy. > >If he could see into the future, then it would be ill planned. No one >wanted that car tax. Everything was in surplus at the time, then the >bottom fell out of the economy. If they had just repealed the tax, it >wouldn't have been so bad. But no - the state is also making up the money >lost to the counties. Gilmore got elected partly because he promised to >repeal that car tax. I'm glad he had the balls to stick it out. Its a >lot harder to get taxes repealed than it is to levy them. Yeah - we have >to tighten the buckle quite a bit, but after seeing the day to day waste >in VA government, I'm pretty sure they can trim the fat in a lot of other >ways.... not only that but it's been reported that VDOT has for years wasted money on dead end projects, cost overruns and poor management. If the other 49 states can do without a car tax and still get their roads fixed, Virginia certainly can too. Huge annual outlays of cash to pay the car tax is tough for most folks to swallow...I know it was for me. Compound that with their brilliant idea that the money needs to be paid during the holiday season when money is already tight made it even worse. I think most people would favor small amounts of money going out on a monthly basis, (e.g. sales taxes etc.), than that big wad at the end of the year. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Meredith, Steve (Contr)" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:47:46 -0700 >>Somewhere on 211 I managed to lose my brand new digital camera. Needless to say, it wasn't a good start on the weekend for Dan. >>Somewhere I hit a patch of gravel and did a nifty fishtail through a turn. Dan wasn't the only one getting the back end loose on gravel. Talk about instant pucker factor! >>We were going nice and slow taking our time. I went over a slight hill, at the end of a turn, hit a rather large stick that I didn't notice because I was paying attention to the gravel (now paranoid of the stuff) further ahead. The stick managed to get the bike quite unsettled and pointed in the wrong direction, heading right for a ditch. This was a nasty downhill turn sprayed with gravel and sand. We were all going slowly and cautiously at this point. The gravel was bad enough, but throw in the harder braking needed on a downhill turn, and it's easy to understand why his brakes locked up. >>After fueling up we start climbing into another mountain. I start feeling really good again, start pushing it a little more into the turns, everything is going great. My confidence is back up, I'm having a blast. This was Rt20 from Summersville going north towards Buckhannon. Constant turns and elevation changes. Very technical riding. After an hour of this stuff, my wrist was aching from the death grip work the throttle. >>So I go into a pretty tight corner, slightly tighter than I expected, so I end up using every last bit of the road. Well almost into the end of the turn, the road got narrower. This was a classic decreasing radius turn compounded by the fact that it was at the peak of this mountain. Entry into the curve was uphill, the curve apexed, then it fell away downhill while tightening up at the same time. I remember having to scrub off a LOT of speed in mid-turn on this one. Once through the turn, I was watching in my mirror for the others to come through. Got that instant sickening feeling as I watched Dan go down and disappear into the brush. >>About 1/2 an hour later a State trooper makes his way up. Told us he just got finished working another MC wreck at the bottom of the mountain. Another rider that didn't make a curve, except this guy had to be ambulanced out. >>My arms are pretty sore from hanging on to the back of Steve's VFR for a couple of hundred miles. Dan, are you saying you had a death grip on the passenger handles for that last 200 mile speed blast home? I just can't imagine why! >>I'm thankfull and lucky that I walked away with nothing more that a few scratches and a bruised ego. Most of us have been there; done that! And thankful to ride another day! Steve 97 VFR Warrenton, VA _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 10:59:45 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Troutman CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short Troutman wrote: > If he could see into the future, then it would be ill planned. No one > wanted that car tax. Everything was in surplus at the time, then the > bottom fell out of the economy. If they had just repealed the tax, it > wouldn't have been so bad. But no - the state is also making up the money > lost to the counties. Gilmore got elected partly because he promised to > repeal that car tax. I'm glad he had the balls to stick it out. Its a lot > harder to get taxes repealed than it is to levy them. Yeah - we have to > tighten the buckle quite a bit, but after seeing the day to day waste in VA > government, I'm pretty sure they can trim the fat in a lot of other ways.... You're right, there was no repeal because the Governer doesn't have the constitutional power to repeal a county tax. Gilmore ran on a lie, and the masses of ignorants who had no clue what the VA constitution said voted for him. And you're right about fat. As I stated in another post, Allen and Gilmore fluffed the VA government up about 70%, contrary to thier position of less government. Seeing into the future had little to do with it. Gilmore proved his lack of basic arithmetic skills when his estimate of the cost to the state was less than half the projected cost. And let's not forget his despeirate attempt to go for the 70% rebate. One of his plans to artificially inflted the buget was to rape federal medicaid funds. Not a new idea, about a dozen states take advantage of that loophole. And he instructed the tax department to withold refunds to inflate the cash on hand, ignoring the accounts payable deficit in the reporting of revenue available. Bill _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:42:36 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: Re: road maintenance $$$ Bill jumped up on the stump & proclaimed : Hmm, so where does VDOT get funding if not from tax revenue? That would be state, federal, or county/city taxes. [Dave] Hack them damn wasteful programs !!! ALL of 'em ! How 'bout a referendum on a 50% pay cut for all legislative, judicial & executive employees of the Commonwealth that make more than $60k / year ??? WAIT! Yes, slipping into conserv repub mode, how about cutting off all social sevices! Yeah, let the little rug-rats who didn't choose to be born into poverty starve to death. Probably improve the breed anyway, sorta like eugenics. [Dave] Can't afford 'em, don't knock 'em out ! My suggestion would be to scrap the expensive SOL testing program, nicknamed Shit Outta Luck tests by the students. As a former educator I don't like SOLs and the teaching to the test required. Studetns memorize and spew factiods, which has little to do with the educational goal of learning how to *think* in a logical manner. Besides, the teen-critters allready take dozens of tests. Soon they'll be spending half the educational year with a #2 pencil in hand. [Dave] That's a good idea. SOL's are feel good requirements. In the People's republic of Nueva York, my Mom In Law gets a tax refund for all the money devoted to schools, because, she has no kids in school - there's a concept - don't use it, don't pay for it. Also, we could carve down the size of the VA government which has ballooned 70% under the "less government" administrations of Gov Allen and Gilmore. [Dave] Amen, Brother Bill ! I think your 2 to 3 year estimate is optimistic, Dave. VA has been screwed to the max, and unless the economy takes a hard upswing it's gonna stay screwed. A tax increase would do it, but nooo, we want all those upscale services for FREE! [Dave] Actually, I've used less than 1% of government services that my taxes support, so from my perspective, 99 cents of every dollar I pay to VA is flushed down the financial toilet. I'd venture to say that most citizens will never use all the currently offered Gubmint services... Dave -- Sponsored by: Want to play blackjack online? How about a good game of poker? Want to place a bet on the big game? Or just play some Roulette? Come to SearchGambling.com where you can search for it all! http://www.searchgambling.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 11:08:20 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Aki Damme CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short Aki Damme wrote: > not only that but it's been reported that VDOT has for years wasted money > on dead end projects, cost overruns and > poor management. True. > If the other 49 states can do without a car tax and still > get their roads fixed, Virginia certainly > can too. FALSE! Many other states have car tax. NC does, and while my boat was in Camden County I paid property tax on it. And you overlook *other* taxes. VA's state income tax s very low. Ciggie tax is the lowest in the nation, at 2.5 cents a pack. In MD one pays state tax and then like a 60% (depending on county) surtax for local government, and they STILL pay house taxes! > Huge annual outlays of cash to pay the car tax is tough for most > folks to swallow...I know it was for me. > Compound that with their brilliant idea that the money needs to be paid > during the holiday season when money is > already tight made it even worse. I think most people would favor small > amounts of money going out on a monthly > basis, (e.g. sales taxes etc.), than that big wad at the end of the year. This is true. It wasn't the actual tax but the one lump outlay that made folks grimace. Most folks have house tax added into the mortgage, a relitively painless fee. I don't, no first trust to handle those ugly details. Evry six months, bend ovah and drop da pants! On July 28th I'll be sending FrFx county close to $1500, and again on Dec 28th, just after the traditional cash out for presents for the grandkiddies and such. Bill. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "dccycles" Subject: Tuesday Night Leesburg Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:03:37 -0400 Tuesday Night bike night in Leesburg At the local yuppie starbucks hangout _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 11:07:44 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short At 10:59 AM 7/2/2002, William J. Huson wrote: > there was no repeal because the Governer doesn't have the >constitutional power to repeal a county tax. The legislature can repeal the county's ability to levy such a tax though ... since the state enacted the enabling legislation. >Allen and >Gilmore fluffed the VA government up about 70%, contrary to thier position of >less government. In my experience with VA gov't, that is an incorrect statement. Any stats to back it? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA ~=~ NMA ~=~ NRA _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: Rich Hall To: dccycles Subject: RE: Tuesday Night Leesburg Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:09:38 -0400 Where is this Starbucks? What time are people gathering? From: Ricardo Pontes [mailto:ricardo@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 11:04 AM Tuesday Night bike night in Leesburg At the local yuppie starbucks hangout _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 11:09:33 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short At 11:08 AM 7/2/2002, William J. Huson wrote: >Most folks have house tax added into the mortgage, a relitively >painless fee. Might be painless for you, but it isn't for the rest of us. My 'house tax' is almost $200 a month. I sure as Hell have a lot better ways to spend $200 each month. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA ~=~ NMA ~=~ NRA _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:24:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short To: "William J. Huson" , Troutman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- "William J. Huson" wrote: . . . and wrote and wrote . . . but not about motorcycles. Perhaps this lack of funds is a good thing, it'll make the roads more interesting. Unpaved roads, broken pavement, mud . . . cool. . . . oh and I'll volunteer to take one of those starving rugrats. All I ask is that the state allow my wife and I to raise the child to be conservative. Leon I like riding almost anywhere . . . and proud parent of two conservative Republican adults. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 11:29:20 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: sdave@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: road maintenance $$$ sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > [Dave] Can't afford 'em, don't knock 'em out ! A nice idea, but unworkable. > [Dave] That's a good idea. SOL's are feel good requirements. > In the People's republic of Nueva York, my Mom In Law gets a tax > refund for all the money devoted to schools, because, she has no kids > in school - there's a concept - don't use it, don't pay for it. New York has State Regeants exams, talk about shit outta luck. You flunk the exam, you take the course over. Back in the 50s when I was trembling in fear with a death grip on the #2 pencil, there was one test for all. Now Dr Feel Good rules, and NY has three test levels, college bound, burger flipper, and mouth breather. Moto content! Years ago, after EMT reports of road rash, NY actually considered legislating complete coverage riding gear AKA leathers. NY has a tendancy to be a nanny state. HINT: want good contact cement? Buy a bottle that says it's banned in NYC by the fire department! Grabs like all get-out! The fumes will make you giggle too, not neccessarily a downside :-) Bill _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 11:32:01 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Troutman CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short Troutman wrote: > At 11:08 AM 7/2/2002, William J. Huson wrote: > >Most folks have house tax added into the mortgage, a relitively > >painless fee. > > Might be painless for you, but it isn't for the rest of us. My 'house tax' > is almost $200 a month. I sure as Hell have a lot better ways to spend > $200 each month. > $200/mo = $2400/yr. Gotcha beat, $1495 every 6 months = close to 3K/yr. You should have the rest of my post. Bill _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:31:48 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Tuesday Night Leesburg Will they be showing the races there? Hugh On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > > Tuesday Night bike night in Leesburg > > At the local yuppie starbucks hangout > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "ROBERSON, Brian" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: OT: FS: 1999 VFR800 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:34:10 -0400 Sorry for OT: 1999 VFR800 15800 miles Helibars, Sargent Seat, Micron Slip-on, Marsee tank bag, Givi Wingrack2 with E460 topcase, Zero Gravity Sport-Tour screen I have the original seat, exhaust and wind screen. Bike has a new BT-020 rear, and BT-010 front. Email me for more details -- $6500 for everything, otherwise I can part it out. Brian brianr@XXXXXX _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:52:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short To: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Fairfax County can start by stop getting "special" $800 custom paint jobs on the cop cars... Glenn --- Troutman wrote: , but after seeing the > day to day waste in VA > government, I'm pretty sure they can trim the fat in > a lot of other ways.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 11:44:10 -0200 From: dan carr Subject: Re: road maintenance $$$ To: "William J. Huson" Cc: DC-Cycles ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J. Huson" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 12:46 PM Subject: Re: road maintenance $$$ > > Studetns memorize and spew factiods, which has little to do with the educational goal of > learning how to *think* in a logical manner. Besides, the teen-critters > allready take dozens of tests. Soon they'll be spending half the > educational year with a #2 pencil in hand. > SNIP > Bill > > They tried to do that years ago with Goals 2000 in VA which my father was involved in trying to get passed. It was supposed to change the way schools taught to be based on critical thinking and problem solving. It almost made it, but the far right religious groups deemed it Anti-God, Anti-Family, Anti-American. Seems that you are not supposed to think for yourself, but only do God's bidding. Wilder being on the way out and wishing to make points withdrew support at the last minute and GA ran on a platform of killing it. Politics won out, the kids lost as usual. Dan _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: OT: FS: 1999 VFR800 Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 11:49:50 -0400 You bitch! ;) Rob '98 VFR800 From: "ROBERSON, Brian" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: OT: FS: 1999 VFR800 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:34:10 -0400 Sorry for OT: 1999 VFR800 15800 miles Helibars, Sargent Seat, Micron Slip-on, Marsee tank bag, Givi Wingrack2 with E460 topcase, Zero Gravity Sport-Tour screen I have the original seat, exhaust and wind screen. Bike has a new BT-020 rear, and BT-010 front. Email me for more details -- $6500 for everything, otherwise I can part it out. Brian brianr@XXXXXX _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:08:12 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: Re: West VA Ride Glenn pointed out - Fairfax County can start by stop getting "special" $800 custom paint jobs on the cop cars... [Dave] Yeah! What's wrong with Ealr Sheib (sp?) ? Besides, they're just going to wad those cruisers trying in futility to chase down bikers to write them speeding tickets ! Dave -- Sponsored by: Want to play blackjack online? How about a good game of poker? Want to place a bet on the big game? Or just play some Roulette? Come to SearchGambling.com where you can search for it all! http://www.searchgambling.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:58:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Glove Opinions? To: dccycles Hi all. I'm looking to replace my current Teknic gloves with something that has more protection and is more comfortable. I'm aware that these two requirements are sometimes mutually exclusive. My main requirements are that it 1) have no stitching (or as little as possible) on the palm and palm-side of fingers, 2) has a good, secure fastening system, 3) is well-assembled and 4) has a decent-sized cuff to fit over sleeves. Venting is not a high priority. I'm looking to spend between $100 and $200. I've looked at the inventory at Fast Lane Cycles (Held, Joe Rocket, Fieldsheer) and seen motorcyclegearreview.com on the subject. I was hoping for some first-had reports from you listers. TIA, Chris Weaver __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:19:17 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: Re: Glove Opinions? Chris asked: I'm looking to replace my current Teknic gloves with something that has more protection and is more comfortable. I'm aware that these two requirements are sometimes mutually exclusive. My main requirements are that it 1) have no stitching (or as little as possible) on the palm and palm-side of fingers, 2) has a good, secure fastening system, 3) is well-assembled and 4) has a decent-sized cuff to fit over sleeves. Venting is not a high priority. I'm looking to spend between $100 and $200. [Dave] I have Z Custom Deer traks (or whatever they call it). Admittedly, I bought them because MCN did their 'glove test' and the Z customs got a favorable review (#2 overall), and they were only 80 smackers. I can't personally vouch for their abrasion resistance, wear on asphalt, impact resistance / absorption, and quite frankly, I hope I never can. They are comfortable, allegedly tough, durable (as far as that can be taken, given I haven't "tested" them), and I'll buy another pair, should I need. They have more frills available now, like carbon etc... I just got basic black like the ones in the test... So I lose 5 Poseur points... HTH Dave -- Sponsored by: Want to play blackjack online? How about a good game of poker? Want to place a bet on the big game? Or just play some Roulette? Come to SearchGambling.com where you can search for it all! http://www.searchgambling.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:44:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Glove Opinions? To: Chris Weaver , dccycles the held glove is the way to go. i've tried a friend's pair and they felt quite substantial in the protection department while at the same time providing excellent feel. i will be replacing my fieldsheer gloves with the held model that has carbon/kevlar knuckle protection and palms made of kangaroo buttocks. --- Chris Weaver wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm looking to replace my current Teknic gloves with > something that has more protection and is more > comfortable. I'm aware that these two requirements are > sometimes mutually exclusive. > > My main requirements are that it 1) have no stitching > (or as little as possible) on the palm and palm-side > of fingers, 2) has a good, secure fastening system, > 3) is well-assembled and 4) has a decent-sized cuff to > fit over sleeves. Venting is not a high priority. I'm > looking to spend between $100 and $200. > > I've looked at the inventory at Fast Lane Cycles > (Held, Joe Rocket, Fieldsheer) and seen > motorcyclegearreview.com on the subject. I was hoping > for some first-had reports from you listers. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Subject: RE: Glove Opinions? From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:56:55 -0400 To: "chris_vtr@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Chris, I have a pair of Fieldsheer TechPro gloves that I'm very happy with and didn't cost big bucks (can't remember exactly what I paid for them, but I know it was less than $100 up at the Philly m/c show). Carbon fiber on the fingers and knuckles Substantial padding on the cuff. Very adjustable to fit over your wrist and cuff. At the time, they were Fieldsheer's top of the line glove, but have since been superseded by their Sonic Race gloves and Titanium Race gloves. They've been very comfortable for me, but of course YMMV. One thing I really like about the Fieldsheer gloves was how far over the cuff they extend. If money were no object, I'd look at Held and Kushitani gloves. Chuck Original Message: I'm looking to replace my current Teknic gloves with something that has more protection and is more comfortable. I'm aware that these two requirements are sometimes mutually exclusive. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: Carl Schelin To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Quarters Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:57:34 -0400 I just wanted to say thanks to whomever put the buck in the meter for me yesterday. Assuming they're on the list. A 30 minute meeting dragged on to 2 hours, about an hour past meter expiring. I was panicing and headed over to the bike expecting to see a ticket and found 3 hours and 30 minutes left on the meter. *whew* And then, when I tried to leave, I got pulled into the staff meeting and spent another hour expecting that my luck couldn't last. Fortunately the meter lady didn't come by. Today I was able to put a couple of quarters in for another biker in the same lot. Anyways, if you're listening; thanks. I outta here. "See" you all tomorrow. Carl -- Carl Schelin _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 14:08:04 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Found on usenet : '93 VFR for sale Don't email me - email vfrman@XXXXXX. Re-posting 'cause I like VFRs, and this one is close. FOR SALE: 1993 Honda VFR-750 F -one owner -38K miles (90% touring) -completely stock -new tires last year -chain/sprockets replaced @ 28K -looks great, runs great; need nothing Honda VFR-750s have won numerous "Bike of the Year" awards from many motorcycle mags. From 1993-1997, the VFR-750F was basically unchanged. 1993s are unique, as that year's model was white; all others have been red. The VFR defined the term "SPORT TOURING". It is a sportbike, but has ergonomics that make for comfortable all day riding, even with a passenger. Kelly Blue Book (http://www.kbb.com) Retail value $4490; Trade In value $3090. Selling for $3400 (firm). If interested, contact Bryan at work from 7:30a - 4:20p EST at 202-927-0985. I live in Stafford, Virginia, about 45 min S of DC on I-95. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA ~=~ NMA ~=~ NRA _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:26:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: OT: Fireworks To: Moto Crew , DC Cycles If anyone knows of a good place to buy real fireworks (not sparklers and that stuff) in DC, VA or MD, please email me off line. Thanks Mark ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:34:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Conlin To: Moto Crew cc: DC Cycles Subject: Re: [DCAR6MotoCrew] OT: Fireworks Don't think you can find real ones anywhere in DC or MD. VA has some (as a kid, we'd always stop somewhere over the border on US-301 near King George and load up), but they aren't "real" in the sense of challenging the mall display in grandeur. They do sell ones that bang, fly, and create big showers of sparks and noise. There is a place in Breezewood, PA that's reputed to be the Wal-Mart of fireworks. Name escapes me, but it's not like it would be hard to find there. Kaboom- -- Jeff Conlin Beltsville, MD http://jeff.desi-9.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:39:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: [DCAR6MotoCrew] OT: Fireworks To: Jeff Conlin , Moto Crew Cc: DC Cycles This is purely theoretical of course...... I do not think VA has anything that shoots into the air. I think the law changed. Anyway, rivaling the Mall show is not my (theoretical) plan. --- Jeff Conlin wrote: > Don't think you can find real ones anywhere in DC or > MD. VA has some (as a > kid, we'd always stop somewhere over the border on > US-301 near King George > and load up), but they aren't "real" in the sense of > challenging the mall > display in grandeur. They do sell ones that bang, > fly, and create big > showers of sparks and noise. > > There is a place in Breezewood, PA that's reputed to > be the Wal-Mart of > fireworks. Name escapes me, but it's not like it > would be hard to find > there. > > Kaboom- > -- > Jeff Conlin > Beltsville, MD > http://jeff.desi-9.com > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 14:40:15 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: [DCAR6MotoCrew] OT: Fireworks PHANTOM. 3-4 Hour wait on Sunday. We left. None in WVA or VA that we could find. Friend is going back tonight. At 02:34 PM 7/2/2002, Jeff Conlin wrote: >There is a place in Breezewood, PA that's reputed to be the Wal-Mart of >fireworks. Name escapes me, but it's not like it would be hard to find >there. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:51:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom De Subject: Re: Glove Opinions? To: Chris Weaver , dccycles Hi, 4-5 years ago I had to go through the same thing. After many suggestions (most for the Helds) I got a pair of the Helds from Fast Lanes. They've been great, but I'm thinking the next pair maybe something else. Gloves in the last few years seemed to have improved a great deal. All in all the Helds are a good choice. Tom --- Chris Weaver wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm looking to replace my current Teknic gloves with > something that has more protection and is more > comfortable. I'm aware that these two requirements > are > sometimes mutually exclusive. > > My main requirements are that it 1) have no > stitching > (or as little as possible) on the palm and palm-side > of fingers, 2) has a good, secure fastening system, > 3) is well-assembled and 4) has a decent-sized cuff > to > fit over sleeves. Venting is not a high priority. > I'm > looking to spend between $100 and $200. > > I've looked at the inventory at Fast Lane Cycles > (Held, Joe Rocket, Fieldsheer) and seen > motorcyclegearreview.com on the subject. I was > hoping > for some first-had reports from you listers. > > TIA, > Chris Weaver > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free > http://sbc.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 08:49:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: OT: FS: 1999 VFR800 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" while one might assume that making an "on topic" (OT) post requires permission here, this is actually not the case --- "ROBERSON, Brian" wrote: > Sorry for OT: > > 1999 VFR800 15800 miles > > Helibars, Sargent Seat, Micron Slip-on, Marsee tank bag, > Givi Wingrack2 with > E460 topcase, Zero Gravity Sport-Tour screen > I have the original seat, exhaust and wind screen. Bike > has a new BT-020 > rear, and BT-010 front. > > Email me for more details -- $6500 for everything, > otherwise I can part it > out. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:17:03 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: OT: Fireworks If anyone knows of a good place to buy real fireworks (not sparklers and that stuff) in DC, VA or MD... [Dave] Not specifically... Aren't they illegal in jurisdictions surrounding DC except VA ? I think the VA skinny is Loudon & UnFairTax counties are more restrictive in what you can buy, PW OTOH, I think has more liberal firework purchase laws... You *could* mail order some tannerite (a binary explosive) targets from www.tannerite.com... They look pretty ...entertaining. Just a thought... Anybody actually ride to a local fireworks display ? In Indian Head, bikers could park on the sidewalks, or in adjacent parking lots, meaning you didn't have to walk as far as the BDC's... Dave -- Sponsored by: Want to play blackjack online? How about a good game of poker? Want to place a bet on the big game? Or just play some Roulette? Come to SearchGambling.com where you can search for it all! http://www.searchgambling.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:31:12 EDT Subject: Re: Yamaha RD350 Parts...2 smoke To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 7/2/2002 10:02:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wscott@XXXXXX writes: > Ahhh, I love the smell of two-stroke in the morning. Yea... But it has got to be bean oil. god I love the smell of a two cycle burning bean oil. One good wiff of bean oil smoke and I am ready to race. I just gotta get my CR running! John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 12:36:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [DCAR6MotoCrew] OT: Fireworks To: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX And Phatom are crooks. I think charge upwards of $15 for a brick of firecrackers. A&W Sales in Muncy, PA is your best bet as they sell that same brick from around $5 but its a good little hike up there. Glenn --- Troutman wrote: > PHANTOM. > > 3-4 Hour wait on Sunday. We left. None in WVA or > VA that we could > find. Friend is going back tonight. > > At 02:34 PM 7/2/2002, Jeff Conlin wrote: > > >There is a place in Breezewood, PA that's reputed > to be the Wal-Mart of > >fireworks. Name escapes me, but it's not like it > would be hard to find > >there. > > ___________________________________________ > > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:36:49 EDT Subject: Re: road maintenance $$$ To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 7/2/2002 10:41:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > which has little to do with the educational goal of > learning how to *think* in a logical manner. Think?? You think any politician wants an electorate that can think? How would they bullshit their way into office? John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:39:58 EDT Subject: Re: West VA Ride - Dan's luck runs short To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 7/2/2002 11:03:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > Many other states have car tax. NC does Not the 6 years I lived there. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Glove Opinions? Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 15:42:20 -0400 I was right next to Chuck and bought a pair of the Fieldsheers up there, as well. I think we paid about $90 for them, but Dave at CAD Cycles has them for $79.99/pr. They have held up quite well; not being road tested! Just my two cents. Rob '98 VFR800 From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX To: "chris_vtr@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: RE: Glove Opinions? Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:56:55 -0400 Chris, I have a pair of Fieldsheer TechPro gloves that I'm very happy with and didn't cost big bucks (can't remember exactly what I paid for them, but I know it was less than $100 up at the Philly m/c show). Carbon fiber on the fingers and knuckles Substantial padding on the cuff. Very adjustable to fit over your wrist and cuff. At the time, they were Fieldsheer's top of the line glove, but have since been superseded by their Sonic Race gloves and Titanium Race gloves. They've been very comfortable for me, but of course YMMV. One thing I really like about the Fieldsheer gloves was how far over the cuff they extend. If money were no object, I'd look at Held and Kushitani gloves. Chuck Original Message: I'm looking to replace my current Teknic gloves with something that has more protection and is more comfortable. I'm aware that these two requirements are sometimes mutually exclusive. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Return-Path: Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) id g62JjDr27795; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:45:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.48.118.251] From: "Rob Keiser" To: markkitchell@XXXXXX, dcar6motocrew@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: OT: Fireworks Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 15:45:05 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jul 2002 19:45:05.0812 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6F0DD40:01C22200] Mark, I don't know much about them, but the last time I was at the Costco in Frederick, they had a bunch of 'impressive looking' packages of various incendiary treats, priced as a $300 value for only $100 I believe. Could be worth a trip if they have any more. Just an fyi. Rob '98 VFR800 From: Mark Kitchell To: Moto Crew , DC Cycles Subject: OT: Fireworks Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 11:26:58 -0700 (PDT) If anyone knows of a good place to buy real fireworks (not sparklers and that stuff) in DC, VA or MD, please email me off line. Thanks Mark ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Return-Path: Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) id g62Jnkr27910; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 15:49:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 15:50:50 -0200 From: dan carr Subject: Re: Yamaha RD350 Parts To: "Scott, Wellesley E." , DC-Cycles Message-id: <005001c221f1$00fcaef0$0200a8c0@theunit> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Your welcome. I had an 1985 RZ350K tricked out. Bar none the most fun of any of the bikes I've ever owned. PITA rebuilding it every year or so but an absolute blast. Cheers, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott, Wellesley E." To: "'dan carr'" ; "DC-Cycles" Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 11:59 AM Subject: RE: Yamaha RD350 Parts > Thanks for the links Dan. > > Ahhh, I love the smell of two-stroke in the morning. > > -----Original Message----- > From: dan carr [mailto:djcarr1@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 7:47 AM > To: DC-Cycles; Scott, Wellesley E. > Subject: Re: Yamaha RD350 Parts > > > I don't have any but these sites should have what you need. Good Luck. Dan > http://www.2strokes.com/index.htm > http://www.rz350parts.com/ > http://www.ifrance.com/rd-rz350lc/pagerzunlimited.htm > > http://2strokefans.www2.50megs.com/cycles/2strokelinks.htm > The last one is a links page to just about every two-stoke site imaginable. > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Return-Path: Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) id g62KXl428750; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:33:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: linux1.gl.umbc.edu: jconli1 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:33:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Conlin To: Mark Kitchell cc: Moto Crew , DC Cycles Subject: Re: [DCAR6MotoCrew] OT: Fireworks In-Reply-To: <20020702183911.46377.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ahh, here's the link for the place in Breezewood. http://www.fireworks.com/default_noflash.asp -- Jeff Conlin Beltsville, MD '95 GPz1100 http://jeff.desi-9.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Return-Path: Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) id g62KgTa29027; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:42:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020702204219.8520.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:42:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: OT: Fireworks To: Jeff Conlin , Mark Kitchell Cc: Moto Crew , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jesus, they are higher then I thought they were. $20 for 80 packs of 16 firecrackers! What a ripoff. Glenn --- Jeff Conlin wrote: > Ahh, here's the link for the place in Breezewood. > > http://www.fireworks.com/default_noflash.asp > -- > Jeff Conlin > Beltsville, MD > '95 GPz1100 > http://jeff.desi-9.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! 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