From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 1 10:42:43 1999 Return-Path: stpeter@XXXXXX Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (root@XXXXXX [206.151.9.249]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15080 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from jaypeter (th-1-33.patriot.net [206.29.51.35]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA15557 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:38:04 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 02:01:47 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE352A.AFF7BE20.stpeter@patriot.net> From: "Jay St. Peter" Reply-To: "stpeter@XXXXXX" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Cold Weather Riding Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 02:01:44 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Encoding: 19 TEXT The coldest I've ever ridden was -12. I rode from my house in Falls Church to Fair Oaks mall just before Christmas (about 6 years ago). There was a serious cold spell. When I left the house it was 0. The bank near Fair Oaks said -12 as I left the mall. My body was fine in my Spartan suit. Hands/feet were another issue. When I got home, I was barely able to get the bike onto the sidestand. When I got off the bike, I fell over because my feet hurt so bad. It took about 3 days until they felt normal again. It was fun for a while, but the last 10 minutes were torture. On another note, I am also willing and able to help out with a tow. I have a truck with ramps/tie-downs. My ramp is a little short, so the lower fairing will rub the top of the ramp unless a suitable curb/hill can be found. I can be reached at 7035324102 (home, falls church) and 7037373001x125 (work, leesburg). Spartan Suit mentioned above for sale, it barely looks used. I just got a Widder vest for X-mas. Jay St. Peter From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 1 18:59:03 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA22301 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:59:01 -0500 (EST) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id DNFMa03212; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:58:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:58:26 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Rick_Royer@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Biker Chic Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 79 My 48 year young wife just completed the PARR polar Bear run as a passenger without electrics and without a wimper. I'm so luckey! Bob McKeithen From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 1 20:34:13 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23712 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:34:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (root@XXXXXX [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA05320 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA12079 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:34:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from glll6 ([12.78.120.155]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990102013336.CQCG15946@glll6> for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:33:36 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990101203334.009f87d0@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> X-Sender: aki.damme@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 20:33:34 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: unsubscribe info please In-Reply-To: <005301be3517$79584320$c621accf@ursulina> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" as my new job requires a goodly chunk of my time, I think it best to temporarily unsubscribe from this list...can someone please send me the instructions to do so as I lost all that info when I left my old job. tks, -aki From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 1 20:52:24 1999 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA24022 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:52:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([208.220.24.17]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 230; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:50:30 -0500 Message-ID: <368D7C45.1FB6A41E@tidalwave.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 20:54:13 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alpha CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Head count... References: <01BE32C9.1C4A76D0.Alpha@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been meaning to respond to this ever since I first saw it. Does my Concours count? :) It's basically a shaftie Ninja ZX-10 with hard bags and tall windshield. It's been known to hang out with other Ninja's (even one that thinks it's a John Deere), and it would probably have it's feelings hurt if it was wasn't allowed to play with all the other Ninjas out there. :) Just curious. I'll have to break the news gently to BugSlayer if it's not allowed to come along. :) Dale (the Horkster) Alpha wrote: > > Hi all! > I was wondering how many of you riders in the DC/VA area ride Ninjas or > EX500's > I think it would be nice to round up all the Ninja people and EX 500's and > do a ride... -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) "You know, the scary thing is, there's horkster@XXXXXX a whole bunch of people around here Dale City, Virginia who think I am normal!" - Me 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" VA License Plate: BGSLYR 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 1 21:05:57 1999 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA24252 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 21:05:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([208.220.24.17]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 44 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 21:04:01 -0500 Message-ID: <368D7F73.64945DD2@tidalwave.net> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 21:07:47 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Polar Bear Ride Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Witnessed a mishap today in our little group on the PARR Polar Bear ride. One of our newer listers, Karl Mueller, took an offroad excursion after an icy corner, resulting in minor damage to his Ninja, and a broken left arm for Karl. I saw most of the action in my mirrors, I thought Karl was gonna save it until his front tire got caught in a shallow ditch in some farmer's field. Down on the left side, mirror and some plastic broken. Leon and I cut short the ride, went back home to get Leon's trailer and drove back down to Southern Maryland to retrieve Karl's bike and brought it home. Saw Karl and his Dad as they were leaving the hospital, he'll be in a cast for about 5 weeks. If anyone wants to send any kind words of encouragement to Karl, his e-mail addy is kamuelle@XXXXXX Memo to me, if I'm ever gonna crash, I'm gonna do it in Charles County, Maryland. Rescue and Police response was outstanding for a frigid New Years Day - Karl was on a backboard and neck brace (both unnecessary, but it was nice to see that the rescue personnel were cautious) and safely tucked into the ambulance within about 25 minutes of going down. I was impressed. -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) "You know, the scary thing is, there's horkster@XXXXXX a whole bunch of people around here Dale City, Virginia who think I am normal!" - Me 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" VA License Plate: BGSLYR 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 01:54:40 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA28270 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.42]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Sat, 02 Jan 1999 01:41:28 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Dale Horstman" , "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: Polar Bear Ride Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:47:05 -0500 Message-ID: <006001be361b$b5c424a0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <368D7F73.64945DD2@tidalwave.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Where in Chas. Co. was the crash? Know lots of people on the various rescue squads, and might need to tell 'em what happened if they are talking about it at work on Monday. BTW, glad there was no 'major' injury. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 06:39:40 1999 Return-Path: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05368 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 06:39:39 -0500 (EST) From: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from STARAI@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id WICVa19764; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 06:38:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3812ed60.368e054d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 06:38:53 EST To: ghowell@XXXXXX, Horkster@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Polar Bear Ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 In a message dated 1/2/99 2:01:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, ghowell@XXXXXX writes: > > Where in Chas. Co. was the crash? Know lots of people on the various > rescue > squads, and might need to tell 'em what happened if they are talking about > it at work on Monday. > > BTW, glad there was no 'major' injury. > How fast was he going when it happened? From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 09:35:27 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07863 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 09:35:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta2.mcit.com (omta2.mcit.com [166.37.204.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA04360; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 08:33:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from toddnt ([166.44.172.185]) by omta2.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990102143351.RNRQ19548@toddnt>; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 08:33:51 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Dale Horstman" , "DC Cycles" Cc: Subject: RE: Polar Bear Ride Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 09:36:06 -0500 Message-ID: <000201be365d$3b060020$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <368D7F73.64945DD2@tidalwave.net> Importance: Normal Dale Horstman reported: > > Witnessed a mishap today in our little group on the PARR > Polar Bear ride. One of our newer listers, Karl Mueller, > took an offroad excursion after an icy corner, resulting > in minor damage to his Ninja, and a broken left arm for Karl. Ouchy! Wow this really sucks. Damn Karl, I'm real sorry to hear this happened. I've never had more than a chipped bone (knock on wood),and that hurt. I won't even pretend to know how you feel now.. > > Leon and I cut short the ride, went back home to get Leon's > trailer and drove back down to Southern Maryland to retrieve > Karl's bike and brought it home. Saw Karl and his Dad as they > were leaving the hospital, he'll be in a cast for about 5 weeks. The buddy system. Best (safest at least) way to ride. > If anyone wants to send any kind words of encouragement to Karl, > his e-mail addy is kamuelle@XXXXXX > > Memo to me, if I'm ever gonna crash, I'm gonna do it in Charles > County, Maryland. Rescue and Police response was outstanding for > a frigid New Years Day - Karl was on a backboard and neck brace > (both unnecessary, but it was nice to see that the rescue personnel > were cautious) and safely tucked into the ambulance within about 25 > minutes of going down. I was impressed. That is impressive. You guys must have been real close to a firestation. Heal well Karl. Todd From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 10:59:07 1999 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA09046 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([208.220.24.190]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 221; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:57:24 -0500 Message-ID: <368E42C5.73B768C3@tidalwave.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 11:01:09 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: STARAI@XXXXXX, DC Cycles Subject: Re: Polar Bear Ride References: <3812ed60.368e054d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Probably only 20-30 mph, we were taking it pretty slow due to the cold temps and small patches of ice. That corner was the first questionable one we had encountered that day. The roads up to that point were pretty clear. Dale STARAI@XXXXXX wrote: > > How fast was he going when it happened? -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) "You know, the scary thing is, there's horkster@XXXXXX a whole bunch of people around here Dale City, Virginia who think I am normal!" - Me 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" VA License Plate: BGSLYR 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 11:53:12 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09826 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:53:11 -0500 (EST) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id LVDYa20555; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:51:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:51:29 EST To: Horkster@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Polar Bear Ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 79 That corner also had a clear patch about 18 inches wide on the right side of the road Bob From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 12:12:16 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10119 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:12:15 -0500 (EST) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id TTICa01428; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:11:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <944c6c6b.368e533f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:11:27 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: , Jploon@XXXXXX, Rick_Royer@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Polar Bear ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 79 Yesterday Nancy and I took our first fairly long ride in the cold. We went on a ride sponsored by a local MC club which they run every New Years Day. I think it has been going on for several years. Riders and passengers get a polar bear pin and a year bar to hang under it. I saw several folks with multiple bars. Our total mileage was a little over 200. Thats from home to starting point, and back home. The ride itself was only about fifty miles and consisted of back roads in Charles County, Md. I must say the scenery was not all that great. Mostly scrub oak flat lands. I guess we get a little spoiled living were we live, but I'm sure the "city folks" enjoyed it. Met some very nice people. Especially an couple a bit older than us. They have been riding for yaers. He started at 17 and she about ten years ago. They were riding double on a very fancy Gold Wing, although she has her Helix scooter. The temps were in the upper twenties for most of the day, but felt much colder in the mid afternoon when the sun disappeared. Nancy was really a trooper. We left home about 8:330 AM and got back around 6:30 Pm. That last hour was just about an hour too long. We both got a little chilled. All in all good fun. Probably no riding today or tomorrow. Just started snowing and it is supposed to change to freezing rain and sleet tonight and Sunday. Bob McKeithen From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 13:00:23 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10818 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:00:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (root@XXXXXX [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA14212 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:59:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21152 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.43]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Sat, 02 Jan 1999 12:56:37 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" , "Dale Horstman" Subject: RE: Polar Bear Ride Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:02:19 -0500 Message-ID: <009101be367a$0a259de0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <368E4218.95734B0A@tidalwave.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 My uncle and grandmother live on that road. And yes, the rescue squad is VERY close to where it happened. Still, it's all volunteer, so that reaction time sounds pretty good. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 13:02:53 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10828 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:02:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.43]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Sat, 02 Jan 1999 12:59:42 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: Polar Bear ride Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:05:25 -0500 Message-ID: <009201be367a$78a2d580$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <944c6c6b.368e533f@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Considering that all of Chas. Co. west of route 301 is swamp (and 50% east of there is also) the fact that there are any curved roads is amazing. I guess that the ride explains all of the bikes my father and I saw on the way to the DC auto show. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 14:12:09 1999 Return-Path: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11836 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:12:08 -0500 (EST) From: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from STARAI@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id RYLZa04794; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:06:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:06:27 EST To: McKeithen@XXXXXX, Horkster@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Polar Bear Ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 In a message dated 1/2/99 12:00:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, McKeithen@XXXXXX writes: > > That corner also had a clear patch about 18 inches wide on the right side > of > the road > Bob > It seems like sometimes there is nothing you can do to avoid a spill. From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 14:17:26 1999 Return-Path: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11914 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:17:24 -0500 (EST) From: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from STARAI@XXXXXX by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id TXORa01433 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:16:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <645f924f.368e709a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:16:42 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: fairings Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 I asked the dealer about fairings for the marauder 800. They said none are available. The windshield is great but I am looking for something lower shielding. It was suggested by the service dept. that I get Baker Airways and get a custom mount. Even though the service and sales dept knew about them, the parts dept didn't have a clue. Any suggestions? From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 14:28:09 1999 Return-Path: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12075 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:28:08 -0500 (EST) From: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from STARAI@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 2ZKQa23181 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:26:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <787513d4.368e72e0@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:26:24 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: chain maintenance Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 Anyone know about a center stand for the marauder 800? How do you clean/wax the chain without a center stand? Recomendation thus far received is to use a car jack and balance on the front wheel and the side stand. I haven't tried it but I can't picture this being done safely. Any advice? I wonder what a RUB does. I suppose I am a poor version of a RUB but am trying to get better. From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 14:33:46 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12168 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:33:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-9.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.50]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA30628 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:33:43 -0500 Message-ID: <000501be3686$76297aa0$3210b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: MC racing in Baltimore Jan 22-24 Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:10:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Spotted in the Post -- "High-flying motorcyclists compete at the PJI National Arena Cross racing event, Jan 22-24 at Baltimore Arena, 201 W. Baltimore St., Baltimore. Call 202 432-7328 (service charges)." Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 Built for low flying Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 14:33:47 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12171 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:33:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-9.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.50]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA30632 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:33:44 -0500 Message-ID: <000601be3686$76da7b20$3210b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Guaranteed Weather Forecasts (not kidding) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:30:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 If this is all it says it is, it's a new way of life. http://www.weatherplanner.com/ includes a MONEY-BACK, SATISFACTION GUARANTEE for $15-$20 forecasts for up to a year in advance. ("We've had a grand total of 10 people (out of 2,000) ask for their money back." -- presumably since the site start in 1997) Website usage so far is said to be centered around weddings, reunions, family vacations and sporting events. (No motorcycle event usage mentioned (yet).) This written up in the New York Times (12/31/98 p.E5) as a highly credible, professionally-based service. "Before [the site] the parent company, Strategic Weather Services, built its reputation by providing weather forecasting for businesses [agriculture, entertainment, etc.]," the article said. Registration is required and hard copy output is possible. Understanding that weather forecasting has mounting reliability as massive number crunching comes to play -- why not this welcome step? Well, who knows what the weather gods have in store for us MCers. But if it comes through as, apparently, for others . . .. To be revisited after several months Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 Let me swerve around poor weather Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 14:33:49 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12174 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-9.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.50]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA30641 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:33:47 -0500 Message-ID: <000801be3686$789e2420$3210b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Having vibration problems? (humor) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:01:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 The chatter decreases at higher roadspeed -- http://www.macnelly.com/archivefolder/macnelly_edtoon112798.jpeg Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 No square, I Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 15:23:35 1999 Return-Path: ph@XXXXXX Received: from oak.eainet.com (root@XXXXXX [206.136.246.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12948 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak (oak [206.136.246.2]) by oak.eainet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA05426; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:23:31 -0500 Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:23:31 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hartzler X-Sender: ph@oak Reply-To: Peter Hartzler To: STARAI@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: chain maintenance In-Reply-To: <787513d4.368e72e0@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm surprised you haven't yet taken my advice and joined the Marauder list. Many of your bike specific questions are disussed there. marauder-request@XXXXXX should work... One lister created a simple center stand with a few 2x4s. He created a big 'L' shaped thing. One piece of 2x4 comes off of a heavier block, to form the L, as in lever. He puts this under his chassis, pulls up on the lever, and up comes his rear wheel. I use a floor jack, which is a bit dicey. The other way to wax the chain is to do a bit, move the bike, do another bit, etc. Pete. On Sat, 2 Jan 1999 STARAI@XXXXXX wrote: > Anyone know about a center stand for the marauder 800? > > How do you clean/wax the chain without a center stand? Recomendation thus far > received is to use a car jack and balance on the front wheel and the side > stand. > > I haven't tried it but I can't picture this being done safely. Any advice? > > I wonder what a RUB does. I suppose I am a poor version of a RUB but am > trying to get better. > From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 17:18:19 1999 Return-Path: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14575 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:18:17 -0500 (EST) From: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from STARAI@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 5DZVa04794; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:17:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9eb21301.368e9adf@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:17:03 EST To: ph@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: chain maintenance Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 In a message dated 1/2/99 3:23:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, ph@XXXXXX writes: > marauder-request@XXXXXX I tried the above address to subscribe right after receiving your email. I have sent another just now. It seems strange that a mechanical kluge is necessary to perform routine maintenance. From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 21:42:45 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA18396 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc2-s40.wizard.net (tc2-s40.wizard.net [206.161.15.116]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA11979 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:42:42 -0500 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Member Roster Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 21:50:35 -0500 Message-ID: <368eda4f.1172174@smtp.wizard.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I've finally had the time to update the member roster... so my apologies to those of you who filled out the survey and were wondering if your info would *ever* show up! :-) Good news as well... figured out a quick way to make all the home page URL's and email addresses "clickable"... it was a simple as putting a space (i.e. hit the spacebar) after the entry. Wierd, but who can argue with Bill Gates, right? :-) Anyhow... updates are done... now on to my next project (top secret!). Anita PS - Where's the big snow storm? Huh? Huh? D*mn weatherpeople!! :-) From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 2 22:31:33 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA19126 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (root@XXXXXX [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA18856 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA27743 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:31:27 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 1YZIa05340; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:30:53 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:30:53 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: balt-cycles@XXXXXX, tl1000s@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Fwd: New Problems for MD Motorcyclists Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part0_915334256_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_915334256_boundary Content-ID: <0_915334256@XXXXXX> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII This is for anyone who wants it. Just forwarding this along, Please dont direct comments or questions to me. Sean... --part0_915334256_boundary Content-ID: <0_915334256@XXXXXX> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: Gawthrop@XXXXXX Return-path: Subject: New Problems for MD Motorcyclists Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:36:43 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Heads up and commo check. Now that the MD Legislature is about to start up, we will be keeping you abreast of issues pertaining to riders. Please pass this information on to other riders The Maryland Legislature is preparing to start business and the first issue out of the chute will be the .08 bac (blood alcohol content). If the .08 bac legislation is passed, expect a tightening of the social safety ratchet. Remember, where there is a bike event, there are "routine" police stops checking for........ A couple of points about the .08 bac. 1. A 120 lb woman will be criminalized after two 6 oz drinks in two hours (NTSHA). 2. The proposed legislation criminalizing this woman will not address repeat offenders in the .10 and above category that the courts continue to release or be lienient on. 3. Instead of focusing on repeat offenders, what this legislation does is broaden the base of the pyramid making criminals of a larger part of the population without addressing the problems higher up the pyramid. . 4. It constitutes a greater adversary relationship with the police because now, after the normal, and non-criminal office party or other non criminal social event, drivers will be more at risk by police check points. Again, instead of going after the drunk driver, the legislation will snare others . 5. Police, under NHTSA guidelines, categorize vehicle accidents, and incidents as alcohol related even when some one other than the driver has alcohol about them. For example, in vehicle -pedestrian, vehicle-bicycle accidents, if the driver is completely free of alcohol and the pedestrian or bicyclist has drinking, the incident is listed at "alcohol involved" These figures are then used to bias stats against drivers. (Makes it look like ALL drivers involved in these incidents are drinking when they are not.) 6. There is no study or set of facts specific to Maryland describing the at fault accident rate for drivers with a bac of .08 to .10. This legislation is not clearly supported by facts but is instead driven by unsupported and emotionally charged assumptions. The bottom line is: Do we want to lower a threshold that will criminalize a 120 lb person for having two glasses of wine in two hours? Please do three things: a. Relay this email to others b. Fire a letter off to your local paper c. Contact your State Delegate (httpt://mlis.state.md.us) Bill Gawthrop, Anne Arundel County Chapter, ABATE of Maryland. --part0_915334256_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Sun Jan 3 00:58:44 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA21156 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 00:58:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.42]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Sun, 03 Jan 1999 00:55:32 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: fairings Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:01:22 -0500 Message-ID: <00d501be36de$7cfabf80$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <645f924f.368e709a@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Baker Airwings. They might have a sight reachable by going to: http://www.inb.net and then selecting corporate clients. AirWings are those air diverters you see on a lot of touring bikes. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Sun Jan 3 01:00:45 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA21236 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:00:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.42]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Sun, 03 Jan 1999 00:57:33 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: chain maintenance Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:03:22 -0500 Message-ID: <00d601be36de$c4a463e0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <787513d4.368e72e0@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Well, RUBs are riding on belt drive bikes... Spray the top length of the chain (or bottom, whichever you can reach) and roll the bike forward or backward enough to get the other part of the chain. No problem. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Sun Jan 3 01:05:54 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA21318 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (root@XXXXXX [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA20791 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:05:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA29103 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:05:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.42]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Sun, 03 Jan 1999 01:02:38 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: New Problems for MD Motorcyclists Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:08:28 -0500 Message-ID: <00d801be36df$7ae53080$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Check out the NMA site. I believe they have some info on the .08 BAC in general. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Sun Jan 3 02:42:01 1999 Return-Path: kamuelle@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA23363 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from kamuelle (207-172-73-50.s50.tnt1.man.erols.com [207.172.73.50]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA23343 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 02:41:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990103024110.008e3d40@mail.vt.edu> X-Sender: kamuelle@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 02:41:10 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Karl Mueller Subject: Re: Polar Bear Ride In-Reply-To: <368D7F73.64945DD2@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" thanks to everyone who wrote get-well letters !! target-fixation + ice + big ditch in other-wise flat field = BAD unfortunately, i broke one of the bones in my left fore-arm, so i won't be riding for a while :(. but thanks to leon, dale, and (geez, i can't even remember your name.. sorry) i was able to get quick attention and my bike got home safely.. like dale said, the ambulance team was there before i finished my "oh damn, i did something stupid" cigarette.. oh well, typing with one hand is kinda tough (even tougher with all the pain-drugs i'm on). thanks again and ride safely everyone ;) --Karl Mueller 1988 (white/mud/grass-colored) EX500 From dc-cycles-request Sun Jan 3 03:41:25 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA24312 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 03:41:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (root@XXXXXX [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA22119 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 03:41:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA00575 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 03:41:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-146-99.s99.tnt3.ann.erols.com [207.172.146.99]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03877; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 03:41:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <368F346C.CC4C0091@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 04:12:13 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: balt-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Fwd: New Problems for MD Motorcyclists References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is yet another reason why ABATE as an organization has very little respect in my eyes and will never get a penny of my money to help their causes..... Honestly, I don't see how the title is applicable... this isn't a new problem for MD motorcyclists...It's a simple thing.. If you drink, don't ride. period. And if you're the type that doesn't live by this rule, fine, but don't ever expect to ride in my company. Collin (rant mode off) -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LT, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ (racing page) From dc-cycles-request Sun Jan 3 08:46:46 1999 Return-Path: louis@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28721 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:46:45 -0500 (EST) From: louis@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 0zwnrK-0006Ap-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:46:22 -0500 Received: from shell.clark.net (clark.net [168.143.0.8]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA21944 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:46:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04273 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:46:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901031346.IAA04273@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: fairings (BakerBuilt webpage) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:46:42 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > Baker Airwings. They might have a sight reachable by going to: > > http://www.inb.net Actually I found them directly at: http://www.bakerbuilt.com/ Louis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Caplan | DoD #1754 AMA #269779 | www.clark.net/~louis/cycle.htm Alexandria, VA | COG #2894 VCOM | 7th Place, Capitol 1000 louis@XXXXXX | '98 Kawasaki Concours | Mean Green Scream Machine From dc-cycles-request Sun Jan 3 12:51:10 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02381 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:51:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (root@XXXXXX [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26652 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:51:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [129.2.128.45]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04283 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from bandwidth.eng.umd.edu ((IDENT knee)@bandwidth.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.136]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id MAA27562; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:50:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert S. Fourney" Received: (from knee@localhost) by bandwidth.eng.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.8.7) id MAA01722; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:50:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:50:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199901031750.MAA01722@bandwidth.eng.umd.edu> To: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: balt-cycles@XXXXXX, tl1000s@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Fwd: New Problems for MD Motorcyclists Folks, please try to distinguish between the writings of Bill, who happens to be a member of ABATE and ABATE itself. I missed the last state meeting, and don't know if this bill was discussed or not. I'm sure that many in ABATE don't approve of this bill, and probably many others do. I'll make a few phone calls and post later if ABATE has taken any official position on this. In the meantime, don't paint us all with the same brush. Remember it was ABATE that first brought you the Baltimore Toy run, the Maryland MSF classes, and many other "good things" (TM). You're not currrently required to carry "extra" catastrophic insurance to ride in Maryland, thanks again to ABATE. You can park two bikes in a metered spot starting last year, etc, etc. I've been a county coordinator for ABATE for the last 2 or 3 years (stepped down this year) and I don't agree with everything WE do or try to do, but it's the only voice you have at the state level. I believe in the AMA and the MRF also, but at the state level these guys don't do a tenth of what ABATE does, at least here in Maryland. I'll also speak to Mr. Gawthrop and ask him to please make a better effort to distinguish his personal views from those of ABATE (again, I don't know if he did this this time, but when I find out I will call it to his attention) Bob Fourney From dc-cycles-request Sun Jan 3 13:10:00 1999 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02633 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 13:09:59 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr26-dialup7.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.73.71]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33506) with SMTP id <0F4Z00EJEX3L18@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:09:26 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 13:10:02 -0500 Subject: Front end wanted To: 400 list , Race List , dc-cycles Message-id: <001a01be3744$4b7c6560$474937a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal I know someone who is looking to buy a complete front end. He wants USD units that will fit a FZR600. Early 90's GSX-R 750/1100, etc. He wants everything, wheels, triple, clip-ons, etc.. Let me know privately, thanks. Jon dawn.jon@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Sun Jan 3 16:21:34 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA05656 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 16:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA21818 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 16:20:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from toddnt ([166.44.172.194]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990103212057.XFUF18494@toddnt> for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:20:57 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: FW: Like if ya ain't already getting enough..... Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 16:23:03 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be375f$3f0c8b00$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 FYI > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hsta@XXXXXX [mailto:owner-hsta@XXXXXX] > On Behalf Of Hawk > Sent: Sunday, January 03, 1999 11:28 AM > To: Honda Sport Touring Association > Subject: Like if ya ain't already getting enough..... > > > Getting enough as in "e-mail", that is. Carl Paukstis has updated his > "mailinglistroundup" of motorcycle oriented "Lists". It's been updated as > of yesterday and contains "all known motorcycle-related mailing lists > available via Internet electronic mail". There's quite a few new groups. > Fyi... > http://www.micapeak.com/mailinglistroundup/ Hawk Hibbs "When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl." IBA, CBA/ABATE of NC (Life), AMA (Extra Mile), HSTA, MRF, BMWMOA. Current rides: 1998 VFR800F1 ("Jailbait") * 1985 XLH1000 ("$$%#&*!") From dc-cycles-request Sun Jan 3 21:31:34 1999 Return-Path: pippinc@XXXXXX Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (uclink4.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.25.39]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10537 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:31:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu (sf-141.sfo.com [207.33.216.141]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15630; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:31:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3692C992.E6E605D7@uclink4.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 18:25:27 -0800 From: pippin Reply-To: pippin@XXXXXX Organization: Cavagnaro Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fzr-400@XXXXXX, dawn.jon@XXXXXX, 400list , RaceList , dc-cycles Subject: Re: FZR-400: Front end wanted References: <001a01be3744$4b7c6560$474937a6@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Need a front end: My friend has a FULL front end off a 1989 or 90 GSXR 750, he wants $500 obo: call Franz at 415-255-6170. Pippin From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 02:41:02 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA15867 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (root@XXXXXX [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA05426 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:40:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA15118 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:40:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.47]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 04 Jan 1999 02:37:46 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: online tires Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 02:42:23 -0500 Message-ID: <008d01be37b5$c4357ac0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Found a tire seller online. Not sure what the prices are like for the sportier tires, but they had damned good prices on some Elite II's for my Wing. http://www.tiresunlimited.com/ ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 07:30:31 1999 Return-Path: got2b_a_xx@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA20318 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:30:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990104123528.19402.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [140.188.64.150] by send204.yahoomail.com; Mon, 04 Jan 1999 04:35:28 PST Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 04:35:28 -0800 (PST) From: c j Subject: Calling "Bike Dealer"....... To: D C MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am looking for the poster that works at a dealership.. Do you all sell Honda's??? More to follow... Craig _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 07:50:09 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA20612 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A8FC4C2056C; Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:50:04 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990104074535.00fc34a0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:47:15 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: military bases In-Reply-To: <02e501be34e6$df81c9e0$2f10b1cd@newmicronpc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'd like to see the Air Force or any of the other services use their motorcycle arguments everytime they destroy a taxpayer's airplane and kill pilot(s). Funny, but they seem to think THAT'S an okay risk. 10 years as a Navy civilian was enough for me, Chris Norloff At 12:56 PM 12/31/98 , mobacc wrote: >FWIW -- The January '99 Cycle World has a full column on MC-bashing by a >retiring Air Force general. p.10. Still on some stands. > >Bill S. / DC >99 VN750 generally attempting safety >Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: STARAI@XXXXXX >To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX ; >gixer@XXXXXX >Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Date: Thursday, December 31, 1998 11:08 AM >Subject: Re: military bases > > >>If a car is legally on the street, you can bring it on base. The same >should >>be true for mtorcycles. Protective wear and an MSF course may be a good >idea, >>but it is not required to ride. >> >>In a message dated 12/31/98 8:18:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, >>christopher.meier@XXXXXX writes: >> >>> >>> Collin, >>> >>> Federal Property is public land. It may get exception due to Nat'l >>> Security or something, but it is NOT a private entity exempt from public >>> laws (i.e. ADA, etc.). >>> >>> That notwithstanding, I agree with your positions about MCing on >post/base. >>> The rules and regs are NOT that tough (nothing that a responsible rider >>> shouldn't do), but they are not enforced in a uniform manner nor equally >>> with other "risky" behaviors. >>> >>> --chris (only in the service for the 22 years he spent as a dependent >;-) >>> >> > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 07:50:09 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA20611 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A8F94C2056C; Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:50:01 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990104073755.00fccf10@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:38:22 -0500 To: "mobacc" , From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: weather In-Reply-To: <01bf01be3462$4b1d3fc0$2f10b1cd@newmicronpc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:07 PM 12/30/98 , mobacc wrote: >Frigid on a bike? Immerse yourself in "To Build A Fire", a short by Jack >London (reread by yours truly last summer) and feel fortunate. Minus 50deg. >and the Yukon miner gets glove and match problems. A real chiller. That story always sends shivers up my spine ... literally and figuratively. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 07:50:12 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA20616 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (root@XXXXXX [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA08481 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:50:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA18630 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:50:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A8FD4C2056C; Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:50:05 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990104075129.00fe35a0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:52:15 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Fwd: New Problems for MD Motorcyclists In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:30 PM 1/2/99 , CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX wrote: >The bottom line is: Do we want to lower a threshold that will criminalize a >120 lb person for having two glasses of wine in two hours? No, unless they try to operate a motor vehicle on public roads. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 07:50:13 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA20617 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A8FB4C2056C; Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:50:03 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990104074359.00fc76d0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:44:37 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: military bases In-Reply-To: <998fcf92.368ba01c@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Be sure to use that argument with the gate guard. Chris Norloff At 11:02 AM 12/31/98 , STARAI@XXXXXX wrote: >If a car is legally on the street, you can bring it on base. The same should >be true for mtorcycles. Protective wear and an MSF course may be a good idea, >but it is not required to ride. > >In a message dated 12/31/98 8:18:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, >christopher.meier@XXXXXX writes: > >> >> Collin, >> >> Federal Property is public land. It may get exception due to Nat'l >> Security or something, but it is NOT a private entity exempt from public >> laws (i.e. ADA, etc.). >> >> That notwithstanding, I agree with your positions about MCing on post/base. >> The rules and regs are NOT that tough (nothing that a responsible rider >> shouldn't do), but they are not enforced in a uniform manner nor equally >> with other "risky" behaviors. >> >> --chris (only in the service for the 22 years he spent as a dependent ;-) >> From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 07:50:23 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA20621 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (root@XXXXXX [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA08487 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA18646 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:50:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A9084C2056C; Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:50:16 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990104075455.00fc5080@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:56:44 -0500 To: "Robert S. Fourney" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Fwd: New Problems for MD Motorcyclists In-Reply-To: <199901031750.MAA01722@bandwidth.eng.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well said. The crazy thing about dealing with politics and groups of people trying to change laws (rights' groups, political action committees, etc.) is that there are few things that ALL agree on, but there's enough common ground to work together. Chris Norloff At 12:50 PM 1/3/99 , Robert S. Fourney wrote: > > Folks, please try to distinguish between the writings of Bill, >who happens to be a member of ABATE and ABATE itself. I missed the >last state meeting, and don't know if this bill was discussed or not. >I'm sure that many in ABATE don't approve of this bill, and probably >many others do. I'll make a few phone calls and post later if ABATE has >taken any official position on this. In the meantime, don't paint us >all with the same brush. Remember it was ABATE that first brought you >the Baltimore Toy run, the Maryland MSF classes, and many other "good >things" (TM). You're not currrently required to carry "extra" catastrophic >insurance to ride in Maryland, thanks again to ABATE. You can park two >bikes in a metered spot starting last year, etc, etc. I've been a >county coordinator for ABATE for the last 2 or 3 years (stepped down this >year) and I don't agree with everything WE do or try to do, but it's the >only voice you have at the state level. I believe in the AMA and the MRF >also, but at the state level these guys don't do a tenth of what ABATE does, >at least here in Maryland. > > I'll also speak to Mr. Gawthrop and ask him to please make >a better effort to distinguish his personal views from those of ABATE >(again, I don't know if he did this this time, but when I find out I >will call it to his attention) > > > Bob Fourney > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 08:36:17 1999 Return-Path: got2b_a_xx@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA21376 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:36:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990104134114.8344.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [140.188.64.150] by send204.yahoomail.com; Mon, 04 Jan 1999 05:41:14 PST Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 05:41:14 -0800 (PST) From: c j Subject: Re: Calling "Bike Dealer"....... To: D C MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Never-mind...question answered...thanks Anita... _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 10:18:05 1999 Return-Path: nomad98@XXXXXX Received: from send101.yahoomail.com (send101.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.87]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23096 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:18:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990104151719.18370.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.108.10.1] by send101.yahoomail.com; Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:17:19 PST Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:17:19 -0800 (PST) From: Nomad Subject: NYC moto show - ride request from Arlington to Bus departure site To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Could anyone attending the January 16th New York City moto show bus trip offer me a ride from Arlington to the bus departure site? (I have a return ride already.) Please reply off-line at Nomad98@XXXXXX Thanks,Herb '94 Magna ---Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > > On 23 Dec 98, at 16:01, Todd Peer wrote: > > > Where are you? > > There is a light dusting of snow sticking to cars and grassy areas > in Herndon. And, there is more coming down! I'm surprised my > coworkers haven't abandoned ship yet! :-) > > White Christmas? Bah Humbug! :-) > > Anita > '96 GPZ1100 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 10:38:58 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23436 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5.mcit.com [166.37.210.27]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA01900 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990104153823.CSJG652@[166.41.242.214]> for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:38:23 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Careful of the Sand... Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:40:42 -0500 Message-ID: <000401be37f8$96192540$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal ...for those still riding. Found a downed rider not even a mile from my house this morning. He was taking a left onto the FFax Co Pkwy and lost the front due to the sand put down for this (pphhppt :p) winter storm we had Saturday evening. A superclean Superhawk that left signal globes and bits of plastic behind. Rider's ok. Not real clear how it happened as everything was broken on the right side and he was going left. Todd From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 10:51:34 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23679 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DX5NJZKP; Mon, 04 Jan 1999 10:50:31 EST To: stpeter@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cold Weather Riding Message-ID: <19990102.170858.5167.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <01BE352A.AFF7BE20.stpeter@patriot.net> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-6,8-10 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 10:50:31 EST On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 02:01:44 -0500 "Jay St. Peter" writes: >The coldest I've ever ridden was -12. I rode from my house in Falls >Church to Fair Oaks mall just before Christmas (about 6 years ago). >Spartan Suit mentioned above for sale, it barely looks used. I just >got a Widder vest for X-mas. What size, color? I'm thinking of selling my car and buying a new motorcycle... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 11:21:16 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24252 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:21:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (root@XXXXXX [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11090 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24887 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:21:11 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id HESLa06037 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:20:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <27d00eed.3690ea34@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:20:04 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Careful of the Sand... -highside Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 Possibly, he took the turn too quickly and his rear end slid out to the right and highsided him to the right. Bike would land on the right side I would think if its a slow speed highside. Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 11:38:38 1999 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24523 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:38:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.112.69]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 259 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:36:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3690EE63.39CF535A@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 11:37:55 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles List Subject: Brr! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Got a wee bit cold on the ride to work this morning. I gotta find something warmer than Dockers for the lower half - the gas tank is especially cold between the thighs at around 25 degrees F. = 8-o Regards, Dale -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" VA Plate: BGSLYR 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 11:51:18 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24808 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:51:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (root@XXXXXX [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA11572 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:51:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26184 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:51:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5.mcit.com [166.37.210.27]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA27569; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:50:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990104165039.EQXS652@[166.41.242.214]>; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:50:39 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: RE: Careful of the Sand... -highside Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:52:58 -0500 Message-ID: <000901be3802$aead8510$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <27d00eed.3690ea34@aol.com> That's possible and probable as the turn is on an off-cambor bit of pavement and the there did'nt appear to be any scraping. Bummer all the same. Todd > > Possibly, he took the turn too quickly and his rear end slid out > to the right > and highsided him to the right. Bike would land on the right side I would > think if its a slow speed highside. > > Jack > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 12:07:53 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA25058 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:07:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id JAA08902 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:07:01 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:07:01 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: DC Cycles List Subject: RE: Brr! Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:07:37 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >I gotta find something warmer than Dockers >for the lower half Dale - I've got a pair of bib ski pants that work for me into the lower 20s - not too fashionable, but what the hell... Get 'em big enough to pull over your regular pants, and away you go. I got mine at Burlington about 3 years ago. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 12:20:46 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25291 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (root@XXXXXX [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA11998 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27268 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:20:40 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id EWKVa01223 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:20:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8fcad59e.3690f846@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:20:06 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Brr! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 I went out this morning and found it was just a tad too cold for me to go riding, but it sure isnt too cold to go spend my gift certificate at cycle world! I think Im gonna get some rain gear, fog city shield, and a new windscreen. its like a second christmas =). Sean... 98 TLR From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 12:21:11 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25300 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:21:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5.mcit.com [166.37.210.27]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA06636; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:19:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990104171937.FMFT652@[166.41.242.214]>; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:19:37 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Dale Horstman" , "DC Cycles List" Subject: RE: Brr! Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:21:55 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01be3806$ba489230$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3690EE63.39CF535A@tidalwave.net> You and me both. I hate wearing the long underwear to work so I just suffer it. Walked in on numb thighs this morning. I think my rain pants will come out of hiding for days like this. At least there is a little wind protection. On a brighter note, the cheapy mylar gloves I bought at Sunny's work great. I used my fall gloves over the mylars this morning and my hands were toasty :) Todd Dale Horstman wrote: > Got a wee bit cold on the ride to work this morning. I gotta > find something warmer than Dockers for the lower half - the > gas tank is especially cold between the thighs at around 25 > degrees F. = 8-o > > Regards, > Dale > > -- > Dale Horstman (the Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia > > 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" VA Plate: BGSLYR > 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 12:53:28 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25794 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:53:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (root@XXXXXX [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA12387 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:53:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28324 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:53:21 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id EDZa000804; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:35:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:35:23 EST To: tl1000s@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: keirnan racing supplies Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Just a heads up to all those who are thinking about dealing with this company. Back in july I sent them a check for $164.95 for a dunlop d207, which never showed. I had to call them to get an answer. They said they were out of stock. so I said I will just leave it as a credit. Then, a few months back, I needed another tire, and they didnt respond to me or send one. ok, maybe they are just out of stock again. well about a month ago I ordered some winter gloves from them and I have had no response, no glove, no nothing from them. Today I just sent an email asking for my money back, no credit, no merchandise, just my $164.95. And I bet I will see no response from this either. Does anyone know of anyway I can get my money back? This business is run by one guy out of his house from what I understand, and the check has already been cashed. Sean 98 TLR From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 12:56:41 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA25816 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:56:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A0D31EDD0098; Mon, 04 Jan 1999 12:56:35 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990104130126.00fe8010@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:03:20 -0500 To: "DC Cycles List" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Brr! Cc: Horkster@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <000a01be3806$ba489230$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> References: <3690EE63.39CF535A@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I bought polar-fleece lined wind pants (overpants) from Campmor (http://www.campmor.com). Very nice. Chris Norloff At 12:21 PM 1/4/99 , Todd Peer wrote: >You and me both. I hate wearing the long underwear to work so I just suffer >it. Walked in on numb thighs this morning. I think my rain pants will come >out of hiding for days like this. At least there is a little wind >protection. > >On a brighter note, the cheapy mylar gloves I bought at Sunny's work great. >I used my fall gloves over the mylars this morning and my hands were toasty >:) > >Todd > >Dale Horstman wrote: >> Got a wee bit cold on the ride to work this morning. I gotta >> find something warmer than Dockers for the lower half - the >> gas tank is especially cold between the thighs at around 25 >> degrees F. = 8-o >> >> Regards, >> Dale >> >> -- >> Dale Horstman (the Horkster) >> horkster@XXXXXX >> Dale City, Virginia >> >> 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" VA Plate: BGSLYR >> 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 >> > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 13:02:11 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26001 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 319; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:01:34 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990104125921.01fc1df0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:01:30 -0500 To: "Todd Peer" , "Dale Horstman" , "DC Cycles List" From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: RE: Brr! In-Reply-To: <000a01be3806$ba489230$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> References: <3690EE63.39CF535A@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Those of us that put our bikes away a few weeks ago wonder why you all subject yourself to these torments. If you dont have a car - I can understand, but if you do.....why freeze? I love to ride, but I dont love being uncomfortable during my commute..... At 12:21 PM 1/4/99 , Todd Peer wrote: >You and me both. I hate wearing the long underwear to work so I just suffer >it. Walked in on numb thighs this morning. I think my rain pants will come >out of hiding for days like this. At least there is a little wind >protection. > >On a brighter note, the cheapy mylar gloves I bought at Sunny's work great. >I used my fall gloves over the mylars this morning and my hands were toasty >:) > >Todd > >Dale Horstman wrote: >> Got a wee bit cold on the ride to work this morning. I gotta >> find something warmer than Dockers for the lower half - the >> gas tank is especially cold between the thighs at around 25 >> degrees F. = 8-o >> >> Regards, >> Dale >> >> -- >> Dale Horstman (the Horkster) >> horkster@XXXXXX >> Dale City, Virginia >> >> 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" VA Plate: BGSLYR >> 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 >> ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 (Cherry Red) From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 13:17:20 1999 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26281 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zxEYm-0000E9-00; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:17:00 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:15:26 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DDBFB78@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: DC Cycles List Subject: Motorcycle in Motion Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:13:23 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE37E4.4B40C640" This message is in MIME format. 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13:41:03 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Troutman , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Brr! References: <3690EE63.39CF535A@tidalwave.net> <4.1.19990104125921.01fc1df0@mail.wheatintl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Troutman wrote: > > Those of us that put our bikes away a few weeks ago wonder why you all > subject yourself to these torments. Because cars suck. > I love to ride, but I dont love being uncomfortable during my > commute..... I've got a car, the wife uses it instead of her bike when the temps drop below 50 or so - I guess my threshold is just lower. Currently it's 18 degrees. I've never gotten to try anything colder than that, so it's 18 degrees. But I'm not a big fan of ice, icy roads will generally force me to take a cage. And sometimes I choose not to ride to work during heavy morning monsoons, but those are rare. I can't say that I was uncomfortable this morning, if I was really cold, I would have stopped and put on my rainpants on the ride in. Todd is right, they block the wind enough to make those 18 degree days tolerable. :) > At 12:21 PM 1/4/99 , Todd Peer wrote: > >You and me both. I hate wearing the long underwear to work so I just suffer > >it. Walked in on numb thighs this morning. I think my rain pants will come > >out of hiding for days like this. At least there is a little wind > >protection. -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" VA Plate: BGSLYR 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 13:44:13 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA26710 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:44:02 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id NAA17378; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:45:18 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma017216; Mon, 4 Jan 99 13:44:46 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F5100M56TEBCS@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:44:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566EF.0066C184 ; Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:42:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:40:14 -0500 Subject: RE: Brr! To: Mike Troutman Cc: DC Cycles List Message-id: <852566EF.006658C6.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Here we go ... geez Mike, why didn't you just say something about handguns or helmet laws? :-) --chris (preparing for the onslaught of e-mails) To: Todd Peer , Dale Horstman , DC Cycles List cc: From: Mike Troutman Date: 01/04/99 06:01:30 PM GMT Subject: RE: Brr! Those of us that put our bikes away a few weeks ago wonder why you all subject yourself to these torments. If you dont have a car - I can understand, but if you do.....why freeze? I love to ride, but I dont love being uncomfortable during my commute..... ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 13:52:49 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26874 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:52:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5-fddi.mcit.com [166.37.204.27]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA03001; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:52:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990104185202.HPBE652@[166.41.242.214]>; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:52:02 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Mike Troutman" , "Dale Horstman" , "DC Cycles List" Subject: RE: Brr! Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:54:20 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01be3813$a33842e0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990104125921.01fc1df0@mail.wheatintl.com> Believe it or not Mike, I absolutely prefer my motorcycle over my car whenever I can. Cold weather is simply a challenge to be overcome. And it can be! I DO have a car, and occasionally drive in to work. Usually it is raining, or I plan to go shopping after work or something. There are days I wonder why I didn't drive. But when the weather's bad for days straight (icy roads, rainy rain, etc.), I go NUTS not riding. Can you say, obsession? It is an absolute thrill and relief to finally get back to the ride. I've often said to myself as I'm tooling along, "Yeah, it's (boiling hot/freezing cold/.etc.), but I'm glad I'm not in a cage." YMMV. ;) Todd Mike Troutman wrote: > Those of us that put our bikes away a few weeks ago wonder why you all > subject yourself to these torments. If you dont have a car - I can > understand, but if you do.....why freeze? I love to ride, but I dont love > being uncomfortable during my commute..... > > At 12:21 PM 1/4/99 , Todd Peer wrote: > >You and me both. I hate wearing the long underwear to work so I > just suffer > >it. Walked in on numb thighs this morning. I think my rain > pants will come > >out of hiding for days like this. At least there is a little wind > >protection. > > > >On a brighter note, the cheapy mylar gloves I bought at Sunny's > work great. > >I used my fall gloves over the mylars this morning and my hands > were toasty > >:) > > > >Todd > > > >Dale Horstman wrote: > >> Got a wee bit cold on the ride to work this morning. I gotta > >> find something warmer than Dockers for the lower half - the > >> gas tank is especially cold between the thighs at around 25 > >> degrees F. = 8-o > >> > >> Regards, > >> Dale > >> > >> -- > >> Dale Horstman (the Horkster) > >> horkster@XXXXXX > >> Dale City, Virginia > >> > >> 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" VA Plate: BGSLYR > >> 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > >> > > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org > > '91 Nighthawk 750 (Cherry Red) > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 13:53:51 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26884 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:53:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (root@XXXXXX [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA13245 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:53:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA00457 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5.mcit.com [166.37.210.27]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA30673; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990104185203.HPBL652@[166.41.242.214]>; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:52:03 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: , , , Subject: RE: keirnan racing supplies Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:54:21 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01be3813$a3ae0f20$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: It's run by Keith Keirnan. I've had one bad experience with him that he fixed promptly and with no hassle. I purchased D205's for the ST1100 and got the wrong sizes. He dropped the shipping I paid (I paid to ship the wrong tires back) and he discounted the cost further on a drop shipment right from his distributor. I always speak to him on the phone, never via email. Though it is a one man operation, Keith has always been very easy to deal with. I'd suggest you get a copy of the cancelled check and request the invoice copy/and delivery information associated with it. Obviously, if the invoice and delivery notes aren't available, you never purchased anything. From this point you may begin to build your case, or get some of that merchandise you want. Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX [mailto:CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, January 04, 1999 12:35 PM > To: tl1000s@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX; > balt-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: keirnan racing supplies > > > Just a heads up to all those who are thinking about dealing with > this company. > Back in july I sent them a check for $164.95 for a dunlop d207, > which never > showed. I had to call them to get an answer. They said they were > out of stock. > so I said I will just leave it as a credit. Then, a few months > back, I needed > another tire, and they didnt respond to me or send one. ok, maybe they are > just out of stock again. well about a month ago I ordered some > winter gloves > from them and I have had no response, no glove, no nothing from them. > Today I just sent an email asking for my money back, no credit, no > merchandise, just my $164.95. And I bet I will see no response from this > either. Does anyone know of anyway I can get my money back? This > business is > run by one guy out of his house from what I understand, and the check has > already been cashed. > > Sean > 98 TLR > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 4 13:57:32 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA26989 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id AF186E70234; Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:57:28 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990104133756.00fec470@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:40:07 -0500 To: "DC Cycles List" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Brr! In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990104125921.01fc1df0@mail.wheatintl.com> References: <000a01be3806$ba489230$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> <3690EE63.39CF535A@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm not uncomfortable. Caging it to work and taking more time and paying more to park one day than I pay to park the bike all month, now THAT'S uncomfortable! Caging it to the Metro, and paying Metro parking fees and passenger fees, now THAT'S uncomfortable. Me, I'm happy. But I could use a bigg