From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 1 15:33:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA02354; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:33:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04876; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22915; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.121] (unverified [207.226.128.121]) by olg.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Thu, 01 Jan 1998 15:36:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: BMW Funduro Date: Thu, 1 Jan 98 15:32:31 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Karl Rosenbaum" , "Slawson, Kurt" , "dc-cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >The ST (strada) is >not going to be imported to the states in 98 (maybe they are not going to >make it anymore). Of course, anyone can make their own strada. Get the Funduro, put on the lowering kit, get the smaller screen, and change the tires. -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 1 15:33:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA02351; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:33:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04872; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22910; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.121] (unverified [207.226.128.121]) by olg.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Thu, 01 Jan 1998 15:36:50 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: RE: argh.. Date: Thu, 1 Jan 98 15:32:29 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Scares me that I'm going to be like these drivers around here. You keep >seeing people get away with being rude and crazy so you naturally want to >get away with it too. Wouldn't it be nice if it were the good drivers that >actually got ahead? I think I'm more than a bit different than the other drivers around here, yet on first observation to an outsider, I wouldn't be. I drive fast (not as fast as I used to) and think nothing of changing lanes to get around... I don't know... minivans stuck doing 55 in the left lane? Riding the roads is little short of war. I look out for the safety of myself and my vehicle first (hence the fact that I might do 50 in a loaded down truck on the same stretch of highway I'd do 75+ on the bike). Second is getting to my destination as quick as possible. All other considerations are secondary. I cruise as far to the right as I can (letting truly insane people zip along in the left lane, IOW, the way it is supposed to work) I think you are confusing good drivers with courteous drivers, two things that don't *always* go hand in hand. ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 1 15:33:23 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA02355; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:33:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04881; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:32:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22919; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:32:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.121] (unverified [207.226.128.121]) by olg.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Thu, 01 Jan 1998 15:36:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: RE: Polar Bear Run Date: Thu, 1 Jan 98 15:32:33 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Just wanted to wish all who are going on the PARR Polar Bear Run well and >I'll be thinking of all of you and wishing I could be freezing my butt off >with you. Ditto here. Plus I slept in late for a change. Soon, it's off to the parents house to start fettling the suspension on the Kawasaki in a nice heated garage (because we know there's not **it on TV today unless you worship on the holy alter of college sports) -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 1 15:33:24 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA02353; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:33:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04883; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22922; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:32:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.121] (unverified [207.226.128.121]) by olg.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Thu, 01 Jan 1998 15:36:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: BMW Funduro Date: Thu, 1 Jan 98 15:32:35 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Slawson, Kurt" , "dc-cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Has anyone out there had any experience with the BMW F650 (aka the >Funduro)? I'm not in the market to buy one---just curious. I looked them over before buying the R850R in October. I might switch from four cylinders to two, but not to one:) Seriously though, I've wanted to test ride one, but I was intent on a boxer twin, so I didn't get around to it. Since buying the R, every time I've been to the BMW shop, it's either been with not enough time to test ride anything, or with the girlfriend not wanting to stay around long enough:) It's a really neat bike, but I'd also have to ride the aprilia Pegaso (same bike, different marque) if I were in the market. ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 1 20:18:45 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA04321; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 20:18:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA07178; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 20:18:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from skippy.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA25382; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 20:18:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA23267; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 20:18:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mbegeman (cust046.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.46]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA24503 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 20:19:06 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19980101201738.0067cab4@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 20:17:38 +0000 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: PARR Polar Bear Route The 1998 PARR Polar Bear ride was great fun. I rode with Horkster, Chris Norloff and Jim Furlong. I met many people on the ride, Karl with his brown K-LT, and Tim Morrow on his VX800 are the only two I can recall from the list. I'm certain that I've left several of you out. Here is the route for the 1998 PARR Polar Bear ride. (Colin, are you out there somewhere?) Start at Loehmann's Plaza, Rt 50 just inside the Beltway. Miles Action Route Int. Miles 0. 0 South at Stop Graham Rd 0.7 0.7 Right at Light Annandale Rd 1.1 1.8 Straight at Light Hummer Rd. 1.1 2.9 Right at Light 236 West 1.5 4.4 Left at Light Wakefield Chapel Rd 1.9 6.3 Right at Light Braddock Rd 0.9 7.2 Left at Light Burke Lake Rd 3.7 10.9 Straight at Light Burke Lake Rd 1.2 12.1 Straight at Light Clifton Rd 1.6 13.7 Straight at Stop Clifton Rd 1.9 15.6 Bear Left Clifton Rd 1.3 16.9 Right at Stop 645 (Main St.) 0.3 17.2 Left Clifton Rd 0.7 17.9 Left Compton Rd (no sign) 1.9 19.8 Right at Stop Compton Rd 1.9 21.7 Straight at Light Compton Rd 0.1 21.8 Then Right Compton Rd 2.8 24.6 Sharp Right Bull Run Post Office Rd 1.1 25.7 Left at Stop Lee hwy 7.3 33.0 Right into Wendy's Parking Lot Reset Odometer 0.0 Right 29 West (South) 2.1 2.1 Right 703 (Old Carolina Rd) 2.0 4.1 Left at Stop Washington St. (55W) 0.5 9.7 Left 674 Georgetown Rd* 0.5 10.2 Straight 628 6.0 16.2 Left 605 Arlie Rd 3.4 19.6 Right at Stop 15/29 South 0.3 19.9 Left at Light 605 (Dumfries Rd) 3.9 23.8 Left 602 North 3.7 27.5 Right at Stop 215 6.5 34.0 Left at Light 28 North 2.1 36.1 Left at Light Godwin Dr 2.0 38.1 Right at Light 234 South 0.7 38.8 Left at Light Digges Rd 0.1 Then Left into Kenny Rogers Roasters' Lot To return to Falls Church, you can go either direction on Sudley Road and return to I-66 East. If you continue south, go straight on Sudley Road to 28 North, if northbound, 234 connects with I-66 *At 9.1 miles you can turn left onto 628 and enjoy a short stretch of unpaved road. (you could turn Right at that same intersection and enjoy several miles of Bust Head Road, one of my favorite unpaved roads in the area.) Leon. Leon Begeman (703) 590-9073 13391 Packard Dr., Dale City, VA 22193 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 1 21:29:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA04828; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:29:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA07781; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:29:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA25948; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:29:33 -0500 (EST) From: WantA ZX6 Message-ID: <9e930f0d.34ac4fda@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:24:24 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Saturday ride maybe? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) I was wondering if anyone was interested in going for an impromtu ride on Saturday? The weather is supposed to be gorgeous. And FYI, by saying this I am not necessarily volunteering to lead. Never done it before and not even sure where to go. Just throwing the idea out. If anyone is interested let me know! Jack TL1000 (green lizard) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 1 23:49:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA05948; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 23:49:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA08549; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 23:49:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA27432; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 23:49:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.141] (unverified [207.226.128.141]) by olg.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Thu, 01 Jan 1998 23:53:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: RE: argh.. Date: Thu, 1 Jan 98 23:49:17 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Alan Lapp" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >I'm not one to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I can say that >since I have rather large feet, and prefer sports cars, that it is possible >to inadvertently depress the brake pedal just enough to activate the brake >lights.... No points there. I'm 6'1", size 13 shoes, and drive a Miata. Haven't missed the clutch or inadvertantly hit the brakes in 10,000 miles. ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 02:27:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA07429; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 02:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA12859; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 02:27:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA01449; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 02:27:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.107] (unverified [207.226.128.107]) by olg.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Fri, 02 Jan 1998 02:32:12 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Saturday ride maybe? Date: Fri, 2 Jan 98 02:27:44 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "WantA ZX6" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I'm up for a ride. Plus, my girlfriend's been bugging for a ride since we looked at the Xmas lights in DC. (And she's not sick this time.) So, unless I head down to Morton's to pick up accessory socket number 2 (an auxilliary one, not a replacement. I want electrics also:) ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 02:27:57 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA07434; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 02:27:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA12863; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 02:27:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from skippy.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA01453; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 02:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from olg.com by skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA24846; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 02:27:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.107] (unverified [207.226.128.107]) by olg.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Fri, 02 Jan 1998 02:32:13 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PARR Polar Bear Route Date: Fri, 2 Jan 98 02:27:45 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Leon Begeman" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Tim Morrow on his VX800 VX800=Marauder, right? -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 05:19:53 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA08639; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 05:19:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA13639; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 05:19:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from skippy.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA02833; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 05:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA26854; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 05:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from krosenba.erols.com (man-as1s53.erols.com [207.172.73.53]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA23510; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 05:23:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980102051742.007c4100@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: krosenba@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 05:17:42 -0500 To: Leon Begeman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Karl Rosenbaum Subject: Re: PARR Polar Bear Route In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980101201738.0067cab4@illuminet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:17 PM 01/01/1998 +0000, Leon Begeman wrote: >The 1998 PARR Polar Bear ride was great fun. I rode with Horkster, Chris >Norloff and Jim Furlong. I met many people on the ride, Karl with his brown >K-LT, and Tim Morrow on his VX800 are the only two I can recall from the >list. I'm certain that I've left several of you out. Yep I enjoyed it also. Was real glad that the cold of mine that has been kicking my butt was a little better! Glad that I picked up my new overpants also. The ride was great - despite one thing. I left my wallet at the Sign of the Whale. Did not notice that I was missing it until the half-way point. Called my wife and found out that one of the riders would return it to me at the stop point in Manassas. BJ Frank, was rolling up as I did and she had it. Now if this had happened during any other event (other than a MC ride) I doubt that I would have gotten it back (or at least as quickly as I did). Don't know if BJ is on the list, but I would like to thank her once again. I was talking to one of the PARR organizers after the run and found out that there were about 160 people that signed up; but there was no where near that many at the end. Karl Rosenbaum 88 BMW K100LT "grandpa" Woodbridge, VA http://www.erols.com/krosenba From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 08:40:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA09603; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 08:40:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA14883; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 08:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from skippy.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03874; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 08:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA27232; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 08:40:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-192.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.192]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA06026; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 08:40:59 -0500 Message-ID: <34ACEE11.208188C7@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 08:39:29 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karl Rosenbaum CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: PARR Polar Bear Route References: <3.0.5.32.19980102051742.007c4100@pop.erols.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great story on the wallet! I think bikers are more likely (IMHO) to treat you right than almost any other identifiable group of people. On my ride yesterday, I lost the cord between my helmet and radio (it wasn't being used at the time) and somebody picked it up and asked who lost it at the first stop at Wendy's. I got it back almost as soon as I realized I had lost it. To be fair to the people who didn't finish the ride -- it was very cold yesterday. As Polar Bear Rides go, that was one of the colder ones, there have been a lot of them that were warmer than yesterday. The roads were good, except for one patch of ice that covered the entire lane on 29 near the Manassas Battlefield. Leon. Karl Rosenbaum wrote: > At 08:17 PM 01/01/1998 +0000, Leon Begeman wrote: > >The 1998 PARR Polar Bear ride was great fun. I rode with Horkster, Chris > >Norloff and Jim Furlong. I met many people on the ride, Karl with his brown > >K-LT, and Tim Morrow on his VX800 are the only two I can recall from the > >list. I'm certain that I've left several of you out. > > Yep I enjoyed it also. Was real glad that the cold of mine that has been > kicking my butt was a little better! Glad that I picked up my new > overpants also. > > The ride was great - despite one thing. I left my wallet at the Sign of > the Whale. Did not notice that I was missing it until the half-way point. > Called my wife and found out that one of the riders would return it to me > at the stop point in Manassas. BJ Frank, was rolling up as I did and she > had it. Now if this had happened during any other event (other than a MC > ride) I doubt that I would have gotten it back (or at least as quickly as I > did). Don't know if BJ is on the list, but I would like to thank her once > again. > > I was talking to one of the PARR organizers after the run and found out > that there were about 160 people that signed up; but there was no where > near that many at the end. > > Karl Rosenbaum > 88 BMW K100LT "grandpa" > Woodbridge, VA > http://www.erols.com/krosenba From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 09:27:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA09924; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15202; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from skippy.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04206; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:27:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.mcit.com by skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26021; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA29787 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:26:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA11456 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:26:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mci.com ([166.32.114.127]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with ESMTP id <19980102142647.GBIG28757@XXXXXX> for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 08:26:47 -0600 Message-ID: <34ACF927.F2BD3331@mci.com> Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 09:26:47 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: PARR Polar Bear Route References: <3.0.5.32.19980102051742.007c4100@pop.erols.com> <34ACEE11.208188C7@illuminet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leon Begeman wrote: > <> > The roads were good, except for one patch of ice that covered the entire > lane on 29 near the Manassas Battlefield. You aren't kidding. Good thing there was no traffic coming the other way, as I was able to follow Chris Norloff's lead and just swing over into the other lane to avoid it. Nasty stuff! I also had a great time on the Run. I was pretty well wiped out after I got home (something about a silly new year celebration the night before inexplicably kept me up late :-) This was the first time that temps in the mid 30's actually felt nice! Compared to the 18 degrees or so when I left the house that morning. > > > Leon. > > Karl Rosenbaum wrote: > > > <> Dale (the Horkster) 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 09:33:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA09993; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:33:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15247; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:33:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04264; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:33:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA29678 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:33:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:33:47 -0500 (EST) From: Julie Holm To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Testing and Hello Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've just subscribed, and I am testing out if my message makes it. Hello all! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Julie Holm (ENTP)| DoD #1604 AMA#397939 UKMC# 0001 VOC# 4672 holm@XXXXXX | 1985 Virago 700 "Maureen" | I'm home at http://www.ziplink.net/~holm NGG Webmistress | Remember the PINK PAGES are always changing (Just and Armourer | like a Nasty Girlie's mind!) | NGG home page http://www.ziplink.net/~holm/ngg/ngg.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 09:58:55 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA10580; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:58:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA15339; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:58:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04981; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:58:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.76.210]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAA25300; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:58:05 +0000 Reply-To: From: "kevin thomas" To: "George Howell" , "WantA ZX6" , "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: Saturday ride maybe? Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:55:12 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19980102145803.AAA25300@default> I could maybe go for a ride! Kevin He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 10:22:56 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA10867; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:22:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15532; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.clark.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05317; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:22:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from clark.net (louis@XXXXXX [168.143.0.7]) by mail.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01990; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:22:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Received: (from louis@localhost) by clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25304; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:22:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801021522.KAA25304@clark.net> Subject: Re: Testing and Hello To: holm@XXXXXX (Julie Holm) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:22:45 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) In-Reply-To: from "Julie Holm" at Jan 2, 98 09:33:47 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Oh No!!! The NGG is invading DC-Cycles!! Run for cover!!! Errr, sorry, what I meant to say was Hey, welcome!! Nice to have you with us. Louis > I've just subscribed, and I am testing out if my message makes it. > > Hello all! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 10:32:59 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA11055; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:32:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA15575; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:32:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from zip1.ziplink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA05516; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (holm@localhost) by zip1.ziplink.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA01973; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:33:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:33:27 -0500 (EST) From: Julie Holm To: "Louis F. Caplan" cc: DC-Cycles List Subject: Re: Testing and Hello In-Reply-To: <199801021522.KAA25304@clark.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Would you like some nice almond scones? Glad to be here. I did subscribe for a while, but stopped when life got really busy. Since I insured my bike this winter, it seemed appropriate to resubscribe. On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Louis F. Caplan wrote: > > Oh No!!! The NGG is invading DC-Cycles!! Run for cover!!! > > Errr, sorry, what I meant to say was Hey, welcome!! Nice to have you > with us. > > Louis > > > > I've just subscribed, and I am testing out if my message makes it. > > > > Hello all! > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Julie Holm (ENTP)| DoD #1604 AMA#397939 UKMC# 0001 VOC# 4672 holm@XXXXXX | 1985 Virago 700 "Maureen" | I'm home at http://www.ziplink.net/~holm NGG Webmistress | Remember the PINK PAGES are always changing (Just and Armourer | like a Nasty Girlie's mind!) | NGG home page http://www.ziplink.net/~holm/ngg/ngg.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 11:27:47 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA12130; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 11:27:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA15998; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 11:27:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06353; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 11:27:28 -0500 (EST) From: WantA ZX6 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 11:24:32 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Saturday ride maybe? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Well, thats 2 people interested. Anybody else? After all it IS supposed to be a very nice day tomorrow. Jack PS-or does anyone at least have any route suggestions? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 11:53:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA12479; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 11:53:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA16491; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 11:53:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from skippy.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06685; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 11:53:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com by skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26255; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 11:53:00 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 11:43:54 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Newbie technical question Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) ok....I was wrong. I was bad. I know. I let my poor little CB-1 sit out in the cold for 2-3 weeks without starting it up. This is probably just my punishment. BUT, I jump started it (cause it needed it) and the ignition caught just fine, but then the engine wouldn't turn over. I tried this for about an hour. Then I figured I had probably flooded the thing so I waited an hour and tried it again, at which point the battery was already low on juice again. HELP! It has gas. It has oil. I had the ignition switch on ;D and the run switch on and the on/off switch on the tank on. I had the choke all the way open. I tried starting it and giving it no gas. I tried starting it and giving it LOTS of gas and I tried everything in between. Can anyone suggest what I'm missing here? Or is it just too damn cold? If you all can get me going I'll be riding on Saturday. HHHEEELLLPPP!!! Thank you! Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 13:20:26 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA13614; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:20:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA18517; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA08114; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:19:58 -0500 (EST) From: WantA ZX6 Message-ID: <4d218806.34ad2f37@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:17:25 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Newbie technical question Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Its possible that your carbs are clogged. After sitting for awhile the left over gas in the carbs start to gelatinize.....almost like napalm. Id suggest a good carb cleaning. Jack From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 13:28:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA13687; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:28:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA18621; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:28:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from skippy.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA08229; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com by skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA27429; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:28:49 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.06 (346.8 3-18-1997)) id 85256580.0065FF9E ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:34:05 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256580.0065342A.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:34:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Newbie technical question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone suggest what I'm missing here? Or is it just too damn cold? If you all can get me going I'll be riding on Saturday. HHHEEELLLPPP!!! Thank you! Your're right. It's just too damn cold. You should be able to get it started with a jump start from another vehicle. Also since it's getting a good deal warmer the next couple of days, it might just start on its own. Another alternative would be a can of starting fluid. A little squirt into the carbs can do wonders to get a reluctant engine started. And finally you have probably seen the discussion about keeping batteries charged with the help of a battery tender. Consider getting one of these to keep your battery up to snuff under any weather conditions. Steve Beck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 13:35:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA13791; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:35:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA18673; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:35:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from skippy.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA08315; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com by skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29474; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by hub02.tds-gn.lmco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD1782.EE73DD80@XXXXXX>; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:32:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: PARR Polar Bear Route Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:32:53 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 44 TEXT Dale - where were you the night before (New Year's Eve)? I thought that was you sitting on the couch watching The 5th Element with me? The only thing silly was the movie we were watching. Dale and I really know how to have fun! ---------- From: Dale Horstman[SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, January 02, 1998 9:26 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: PARR Polar Bear Route Leon Begeman wrote: > <> > The roads were good, except for one patch of ice that covered the entire > lane on 29 near the Manassas Battlefield. You aren't kidding. Good thing there was no traffic coming the other way, as I was able to follow Chris Norloff's lead and just swing over into the other lane to avoid it. Nasty stuff! I also had a great time on the Run. I was pretty well wiped out after I got home (something about a silly new year celebration the night before inexplicably kept me up late :-) This was the first time that temps in the mid 30's actually felt nice! Compared to the 18 degrees or so when I left the house that morning. > > > Leon. > > Karl Rosenbaum wrote: > > > <> Dale (the Horkster) 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 13:39:44 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA13873; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:39:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA18734; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:39:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from server4.illuminet.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA08369; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from illuminet.net (aln-63-192.jmb.bah.com [156.80.63.192]) by server4.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA13392; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:40:26 -0500 Message-ID: <34AD343F.D71F2789@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 13:38:56 -0500 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WantA ZX6 CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Newbie technical question References: <4d218806.34ad2f37@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WantA ZX6 wrote: > Its possible that your carbs are clogged. After sitting for awhile the left > over gas in the carbs start to gelatinize.....almost like napalm. Id suggest > a good carb cleaning. That's possible, but not likely in only 3 weeks. Any easy check for that would be to drain the float bowls. There is a screw on the bottom of each of the carbs, sometimes the carbs have drain hoses that go down through the frame. Open each of them in turn and see if fuel flows out of the bowl to the ground. If it flows, and it smells like gasoline should, the fuel is probably ok. Old gasoline does not smell like fresh gasoline. I'd try cleaning or replacing the spark plugs first, sometimes when they get wet, they don't want to work. Leon. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 13:59:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA14415; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:59:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA19324; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:59:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA08779; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:59:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id MAA18332; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 12:55:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (imeid02.mcit.com [166.37.221.14]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA13272; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:55:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by imeid02.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980102185508.GQEM28757@[166.41.242.141]>; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 12:55:08 -0600 Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 13:42 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: WantA ZX6 CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Saturday ride maybe? X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980102185508.GQEM28757@[166.41.242.141]> When and where to meet. If it is really going to be nice as predicted, I'd like to get out and ride my CB750 a little bit. >Well, thats 2 people interested. Anybody else? After all it IS supposed to >be a very nice day tomorrow. > >Jack > >PS-or does anyone at least have any route suggestions? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 14:19:43 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14691; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA19445; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:19:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from skippy.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA09051; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:19:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from enterprise.reliacom.com by skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA27644; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by enterprise.reliacom.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:18:40 -0500 Message-ID: <61390AC07B6BD111AC6F006008A591100665@enterprise.reliacom.com> From: Scot Kight To: "'sbeck@XXXXXX '" , "'JinnSinn@XXXXXX '" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: RE: Newbie technical question Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:18:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Word of warning about the starter fluid. a SQUIRT, not a spray, or a blast. a small, little squirt. Unless of course, you like your pistons, and want to hang one on the wall, and dont want to bother with actually taking the heads off to get to them :> Oh, and yeah, jump start the bike. Its probably much to cold at the moment :< (though I guess its like 55 now) Scot 95 900SS/CR -----Original Message----- From: sbeck@XXXXXX To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sent: 1/2/98 12:34 PM Subject: Re: Newbie technical question Can anyone suggest what I'm missing here? Or is it just too damn cold? If you all can get me going I'll be riding on Saturday. HHHEEELLLPPP!!! Thank you! Your're right. It's just too damn cold. You should be able to get it started with a jump start from another vehicle. Also since it's getting a good deal warmer the next couple of days, it might just start on its own. Another alternative would be a can of starting fluid. A little squirt into the carbs can do wonders to get a reluctant engine started. And finally you have probably seen the discussion about keeping batteries charged with the help of a battery tender. Consider getting one of these to keep your battery up to snuff under any weather conditions. Steve Beck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 15:25:24 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15872; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 15:25:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA20285; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 15:25:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from skippy.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA01592; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 15:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA30359; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 15:25:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id OAA06494; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 14:23:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA15422; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 15:23:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980102202352.RJNI6587@[166.41.242.141]>; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 15:23:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 15:16 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: CC: , Subject: RE: PARR Polar Bear Route X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980102202352.RJNI6587@[166.41.242.141]> Busted! Message-ID: From: To: , Subject: RE: PARR Polar Bear Route Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:32:53 -0500 Encoding: 44 TEXT Dale - where were you the night before (New Year's Eve)? I thought that was you sitting on the couch watching The 5th Element with me? The only thing silly was the movie we were watching. Dale and I really know how to have fun! ---------- From: Dale Horstman[SMTP:Dale.Horstman@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, January 02, 1998 9:26 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: PARR Polar Bear Route Leon Begeman wrote: > <> > The roads were good, except for one patch of ice that covered the entire > lane on 29 near the Manassas Battlefield. You aren't kidding. Good thing there was no traffic coming the other way, as I was able to follow Chris Norloff's lead and just swing over into the other lane to avoid it. Nasty stuff! I also had a great time on the Run. I was pretty well wiped out after I got home (something about a silly new year celebration the night before inexplicably kept me up late :-) This was the first time that temps in the mid 30's actually felt nice! Compared to the 18 degrees or so when I left the house that morning. > > > Leon. > > Karl Rosenbaum wrote: > > > <> Dale (the Horkster) 1978 Kawasaki KZ1000 LTD 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 20:07:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA19032; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:07:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA22426; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:07:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from skippy.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA01240; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:07:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com by skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA30288; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 20:07:05 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <3cf24594.34ad8d20@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 19:58:05 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Newbie technical question Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Thank you all very much. I have good news! It started! Todd Peer was kind enough to come by and take a look at it (thanks to you too Kevin for the offer). He accidentally closed of the tail end of the tail pipe by covering it with his hand to see what the fumes smelled like and all of a sudden it started right up. (Jumped it too). I did have to leave it out in the rain for two days so perhaps water froze in the bike somewhere and by this afternoon it had all thawed and drained???? Who knows! We don't. At any rate, I immediately took it out for a spin for about an hour through downtown DC and a little bit on Rock Creek Parkway. Everything is working grrrreat. But don't worry - I have no doubt that I will experience many more technical crises that will require the combined knowledge and experience of you all to fix.... Thanks again Todd I really appreciate the help! One happy biker chick, Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 2 23:36:46 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA20451; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 23:36:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23669; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 23:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA03347; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 23:36:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-29.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.70]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA27020 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 23:36:27 -0500 Message-ID: <00b401bd1801$64125980$3110b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: Subject: Polar Brrr Run Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 23:37:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B1_01BD17D7.6F62DF00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B1_01BD17D7.6F62DF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great experience! Though rushed, couldn't miss the chance to try the = PARR run and view other and test my tundra-type togs (Motoport Husky can = be a steamer, but very comfortable yesterday) -- some minor tweaking = needed, yet here today with all bumps functioning. Left SoW early for = first half, then beelined back in from Wendy's to keep schedule. = Refreshing and fun. Need some time perfecting "Friendly or Foe -- = shades of roadblack" (just moist, or "snotties", or ice). Tried to = avoid them all. =20 Kept honor intact by not buying (unearned) prior yearbars, though = tempted. Surprised to see a couple of gendarmes tending Rt. 29 on the way back = (New Year midday?) and wondered if this is normal for that route. =20 Bill Swanson 96 Vulcan 500 LTD Downtown DC AMA, + =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B1_01BD17D7.6F62DF00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great experience!  Though rushed, couldn't miss = the=20 chance to try the PARR run and view other and test my tundra-type togs = (Motoport=20 Husky can be a steamer, but very comfortable yesterday) -- some minor = tweaking=20 needed, yet here today with all bumps functioning.  Left SoW early = for=20 first half, then beelined back in from Wendy's to keep schedule. =20 Refreshing and fun.  Need some time perfecting "Friendly or = Foe --=20 shades of roadblack" (just moist, or "snotties", or = ice). =20 Tried to avoid them all. 
 
Kept honor intact by not buying = (unearned) prior=20 yearbars, though tempted.
 
Surprised to see a couple of gendarmes tending Rt. = 29 on the=20 way back (New Year midday?) and wondered if this is normal for that = route. =20
 
Bill Swanson
96 Vulcan 500 LTD
Downtown DC
AMA, +
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00B1_01BD17D7.6F62DF00-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 01:34:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA21830; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 01:34:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA25158; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 01:33:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA04360; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 01:33:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA28127; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 01:28:59 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 01:26:40 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Testing and Hello To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Julie Holm wrote: > I've just subscribed, and I am testing out if my message makes it. Uh-oh,Squeakers.The Nasty Girlies are infiltrating dc-cycles.Looks like you're going to have some competition! ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 02:02:28 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA22071; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 02:02:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA25299; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 02:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA04676; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 02:02:18 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 02:01:10 EST To: gnissley@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Testing and Hello Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) IF by chance you're referring to Jeannette and I......all I have to say is that ALL the girlies will unite....MUAH HA HA HA HA HA HA ;D In a message dated 98-01-03 01:45:17 EST, gnissley@XXXXXX writes: << Uh-oh,Squeakers.The Nasty Girlies are infiltrating dc-cycles.Looks like you're going to have some competition! ;-) >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 02:15:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA22172; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 02:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA25385; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 02:15:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA04748; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 02:15:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <509f7405.34ade55e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 02:14:36 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Marcy's VERY STUBBORN CB-1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) I'm baaaaaaaaack. HELP ME PLEASE! This is making me nuts! I rode the bike for about an hour, let it sit for just under two hours then went to start it again and the ONLY thing that happened is that the lights came on. The ignition did not catch. The engine was silent. Everything was silent. No clicking, no rumbling no nothing. Just my headlight beaming away like an idiot. Battery? (but the lights were on) Starter fuse? Bad karma? Bermuda Triangle riding El Nino into my backyard? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 02:24:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA22230; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 02:24:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA25416; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 02:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA04775; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 02:24:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA28289; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 02:19:49 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 02:15:34 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Testing and Hello To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > IF by chance you're referring to Jeannette and I...... Nah.The NGG is a wreck.moto thing(kinda like dc-cycles,only a worse signal-to-noise ratio). >all I have to say is > that ALL the girlies will unite....MUAH HA HA HA HA HA HA ;D I think we'd rather see you all _untie_. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 03:54:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA22893; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 03:54:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA26136; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 03:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA05403; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 03:53:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA28602; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 03:49:05 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 03:46:30 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: 1997 Final Mileage To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <34AA6810.BF36C084@mci.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, Dale Horstman wrote: > With the calculated mileage on my trip home tonight, my 1978 > Kawasaki KZ 1000 LTD will close out the year with 30,215 miles, > which nicely eclipses my 30k goal. I bought this bike in November > of 96 from a guy in Baltimore, it had just under 23k on the odometer. I've only put 4k miles on the Buell since May.Blame it on two jobs and the breakdown. :-P The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 04:03:54 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA23019; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 04:03:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA26381; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 04:03:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA05523; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 04:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA28634; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 03:59:33 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 03:50:29 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: argh.. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <9712318835.AA883576641@smtplink.micros.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, Brian McCoy wrote: > And people with 4X4 trucks > sitting on the side of the road as I putt by in my 4x2 with no weight > in the back.... 3rd gear, feathering the clutch. It just amazes me.. > that's all. thankfully my management understands.... OBtopic;my uncle owns some property out in the sticks that he likes to go off roading in.There's this one spot where he's gotten his 4X Jeep stuck on several occations.One night,he heard some noise and went to check it out(w/shotgun,natch).It turned out to be a bunch of kids, in a 2X Blaser,running around through the same spot where my uncle usually gets stuck.I don't know what pissed him off more;the kids tresspassing on his land,or the fact that they didn't get stuck! BTW,something I've noticed about drivers in the Northeast.When there's a long line at a light,it moves when the light is red,and stops when it's green.Weird. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 09:17:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24409; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 09:17:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27450; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 09:16:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA07220; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 09:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.137] (unverified [207.226.128.137]) by olg.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Sat, 03 Jan 1998 09:21:30 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Testing and Hello Date: Sat, 3 Jan 98 09:16:56 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Louis F. Caplan" , "Julie Holm" cc: "DC-Cycles List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Oh No!!! The NGG is invading DC-Cycles!! Run for cover!!! Oh, darn, I thought I had escaped wreck.moto..... -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 09:17:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24408; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 09:17:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27448; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 09:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from skippy.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA07217; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 09:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from olg.com by skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01379; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 09:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.137] (unverified [207.226.128.137]) by olg.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Sat, 03 Jan 1998 09:21:28 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Newbie technical question Date: Sat, 3 Jan 98 09:16:54 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Jinn Sinn" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >I did have to leave it out in the rain for >two days so perhaps water froze in the bike somewhere and by this >afternoon it >had all thawed and drained???? If that's the case, go out and buy a cover for it. NOW! :) -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 10:27:04 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24711; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:27:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27765; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:26:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07661; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:26:54 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <25ff0135.34ae5898@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:26:14 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Marcy and The Recalcitrant CB-1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) ok.....should I run a lottery for who had the right answer? :D:D:D Here's what the problem was: me! well, me and the kickstand being down plus the bike being in gear....... thanks again Todd! see you all out there Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 10:28:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24727; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27779; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:28:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07669; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:28:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <9cf3a660.34ae58e4@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:27:30 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Ursulina Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Ursulina, Hi. Jeanette asked me to post and ask for your phone number so the three of us can go riding today around noon. Email me the number if you get this. I'm looking forward to meeting you! Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 10:54:42 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24928; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:54:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27895; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07847; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:54:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from squeakers.erols.com (frd-as1s18.erols.com [207.172.110.18]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA19352; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:54:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801031554.KAA19352@smtp2.erols.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Squeakers" Organization: Squeakers Madhouse Inc. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Gil M. Nissley" Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:53:43 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Testing and Hello Reply-to: squeakers@XXXXXX Priority: normal References: In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) > On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Julie Holm wrote: > > I've just subscribed, and I am testing out if my message makes it. > > Uh-oh,Squeakers.The Nasty Girlies are infiltrating dc-cycles.Looks > like you're going to have some competition! ;-) > > Nasty Girlies? What are the nasty girlies? And hey! Why would they be competition? Id consider them allies for stomping uppity boys gettin too big for their britches and puttin 'em back down on their knees where all boys belong!!!! United we rule!!!!!!! The men will never be the same again!!!!! YEEHAW!!!! Welcome, Julie. Why is he calling you a nasty girlies person? I wanna be a nasty girlie too. I like the way that sounds. :) Gil... I went out trying out my eight wheelers. (roller blades). I had on elbow pads, knee pads, gloves and wrist protectors (all in spiffy psychedelic colors!!!!) ( still no helmet, though) so.. when I fall...do I fall on my knees, elbows, hands or wrists? HELL no. I fall on my ass, and now have a bruised left cheek. Anyone know how to stop or slow down wearing those damn things?!?!/ Wheres the clutch to pull in! Where's the brake!!!! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 11:00:06 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24959; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:00:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA27938; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:59:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from home.13x.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07899; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 10:59:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from 13x.com (ppp-156.m2-2.ham.ican.net [142.154.80.156]) by home.13x.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25497; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:03:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34AE62A4.FF81C1EA@13x.com> Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 11:09:08 -0500 From: Stephen Organization: SDC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jinn Sinn CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Marcy's VERY STUBBORN CB-1 References: <509f7405.34ade55e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you've got a loose connection to the battery, yes, your lights will glow, but as soon as you try to get any real current through the starter, you'll kill all the power. I've had this on my hawk. Tighten up the battery connections. A big phillips ought to do the trick. I don't use a wrench as the terminals are soft, and will strip easily. I haven't ever stipped 'em personally though. Stephen Jinn Sinn wrote: > I'm baaaaaaaaack. > > HELP ME PLEASE! This is making me nuts! > > I rode the bike for about an hour, let it sit for just under two hours then > went to start it again and the ONLY thing that happened is that the lights > came on. The ignition did not catch. The engine was silent. Everything was > silent. No clicking, no rumbling no nothing. Just my headlight beaming away > like an idiot. > > Battery? (but the lights were on) > Starter fuse? > Bad karma? > Bermuda Triangle riding El Nino into my backyard? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 11:20:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25045; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:20:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28099; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:20:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08066; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:20:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from squeakers.erols.com (frd-as1s18.erols.com [207.172.110.18]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA24257; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:20:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801031620.LAA24257@smtp2.erols.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Squeakers" Organization: Squeakers Madhouse Inc. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Gil M. Nissley" Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:19:45 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Testing and Hello Reply-to: squeakers@XXXXXX Priority: normal References: In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) > Nah.The NGG is a wreck.moto thing(kinda like dc-cycles,only a > worse signal-to-noise ratio). > Ok. I just went and looked at the web page for the nasty girlies. Looks like they have the same ideals that I do. i.e. that the pesky testosterone laden beasts (that we all love) need a womans gentle, caring, guiding hand to teach them how to be presentable human beings. And crush those naughty boys that try to flex their rebellious natures until they...too.... learn to be submissive to their betters. (us) kewl. I repeat.. welcome Julie! Squeakers From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 11:55:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25283; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28199; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08298; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:54:51 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <9e95eba0.34ae6cdf@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:52:45 EST To: squeakers@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gnissley@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Testing and Hello Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Squeakers, me and Jeanette are right there with ya! DOWN WITH UPPITY BOYS MUAH HA HA HA HA HA HA Add two more to the Nasty Girlies Gang........ (boys, y'all are in some trouble now ;D ) In a message dated 98-01-03 11:00:11 EST, squeakers@XXXXXX writes: << Nasty Girlies? What are the nasty girlies? And hey! Why would they be competition? Id consider them allies for stomping uppity boys gettin too big for their britches and puttin 'em back down on their knees where all boys belong!!!! United we rule!!!!!!! The men will never be the same again!!!!! YEEHAW!!!! Welcome, Julie. Why is he calling you a nasty girlies person? I wanna be a nasty girlie too. I like the way that sounds. :) >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 11:55:36 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25294; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:55:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28209; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08302; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:55:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <569adb21.34ae6d47@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 11:54:29 EST To: squeakers@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gnissley@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Testing and Hello Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) Ahh yes it is always a pleasure to meet another woman who understands the way of things......heh heh In a message dated 98-01-03 11:27:05 EST, squeakers@XXXXXX writes: << Ok. I just went and looked at the web page for the nasty girlies. Looks like they have the same ideals that I do. i.e. that the pesky testosterone laden beasts (that we all love) need a womans gentle, caring, guiding hand to teach them how to be presentable human beings. And crush those naughty boys that try to flex their rebellious natures until they...too.... learn to be submissive to their betters. (us) >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 23:26:21 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00512; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:26:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA05895; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA14846; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA01915; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:20:59 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:10:08 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Testing and Hello To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199801031554.KAA19352@smtp2.erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Squeakers wrote: > Welcome, Julie. Why is he calling you a nasty girlies > person? I wanna be a nasty girlie too. I like the way that > sounds. :) Now Squeaks,let's not let wreck.moto make inroads here.We get enough flame wars as it is. > Gil... I went out trying out my eight wheelers. (roller > blades). I had on elbow pads, knee pads, gloves and wrist > protectors (all in spiffy psychedelic colors!!!!) ( still > no helmet, though) so.. when I fall...do I fall on my > knees, elbows, hands or wrists? HELL no. I fall on my ass, > and now have a bruised left cheek. Anyone know how to stop > or slow down wearing those damn things?!?!/ Wheres the > clutch to pull in! Where's the brake!!!! We have some guys here that blade.They said you should have a 'bumper' at the heel of the skate.You stop by rocking back on the heel of one of your skates(don't try both at the same time). What's with the goofy colors?All your stuff should be black.And don't forget to get chrome wheels for the blades. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 3 23:42:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00612; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:42:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA05977; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA15087; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA01972; Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:37:48 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:25:54 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Testing and Hello To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <569adb21.34ae6d47@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > Ahh yes it is always a pleasure to meet another woman who understands the way > of things......heh heh Ha-ha-ha.Vewy funny. :-P We'll keep this in mind the next time one of you 'nasty girls' needs our help. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jan 4 04:00:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA03201; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 04:00:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA08296; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 04:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA02003; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 04:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.34.245.164] (1Cust164.tnt2.tco2.da.uu.net [153.34.245.164]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03574 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 01:00:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 01:00:37 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199801031554.KAA19352@smtp2.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: Rollerblading >> Gil... I went out trying out my eight wheelers. (roller >> blades). I had on elbow pads, knee pads, gloves and wrist >> protectors (all in spiffy psychedelic colors!!!!) ( still >> no helmet, though) so.. when I fall...do I fall on my >> knees, elbows, hands or wrists? HELL no. I fall on my ass, >> and now have a bruised left cheek. Anyone know how to stop >> or slow down wearing those damn things?!?!/ Wheres the >> clutch to pull in! Where's the brake!!!! > > We have some guys here that blade.They said you should have a >'bumper' at the heel of the skate.You stop by rocking back on >the heel of one of your skates(don't try both at the same time). > What's with the goofy colors?All your stuff should be black.And >don't forget to get chrome wheels for the blades. ;-) Try hockey pants for your ass. In spite of the fact that I wind up lookin' pear-shaped, I wear'm snowboarding, and they really help. As for stopping: learn how to do a hockey stop. Get all your weight on your rear skate, crouch down, put your front skate out with all the wheels touching the ground (i.e. perpendicular to your line of travel) and *slowly* put weight on the front skate. I'd suggest getting the hockey pants first cuz the first dozen or 2 times you try this, you'll spin out because your front skate isn't pointed in exactly the right direction. Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jan 4 11:52:37 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA05471; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA09621; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:52:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA04997; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:52:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from michael-a.-cruz (spg-as99s03.erols.com [207.172.35.130]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA24637; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:56:43 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Michael Cruz" From: "Michael Cruz" To: "Kevin Andrew D'sylva" , "DC Cycles" , "Mary Ann Cruz" , "Brian (California)" Subject: Cross Country Trip, USA Baby!!! Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:02:24 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd1932$86fe16a0$8223accf@michael-a.-cruz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Hi All! In two years, spring-summer of 99', I am a planning to take a cross-country trip from Washington DC to San Francisco with my CBR and some friends. I was wondering if any of you had any experience doing this either by car or motorcycle. What is the fastest, safest, least expensive, and most beautiful route to take? How should I prepare? Points of interest, etc... If any of you can recommend a book that does an excellent job detailing a route, please let me know. Of course, if any of you are interested making the trip with us, let me know and I will keep you informed as plans evolve. Please advise... Thanks in advance, Mike Cruz 96' CBR 600/ red-white / neon yellow rim strips cruzman@XXXXXX www.erols.com/cruzman From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jan 4 12:41:34 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA05812; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA09790; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:41:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA05508; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:41:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (spg-tnt6s135.erols.com [207.172.36.135]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10962; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:45:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34AFD572.7D3F845F@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 13:31:15 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Cruz CC: "Kevin Andrew D'sylva" , DC Cycles , Mary Ann Cruz , "Brian (California)" Subject: Re: Cross Country Trip, USA Baby!!! References: <01bd1932$86fe16a0$8223accf@michael-a.-cruz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael, Unfortuneately all those adjectives don't really fit together... My bet for the fastest route would be to swing down I-64 to I-40 then put it on auto pilot till ya hit California. It's a boring route but it does have some decent scenery. It's dead straight though. I've gone long stretches in the cage without touching the wheel...A well aligned vehicle will just follow the grooves left by the 18 wheelers... Good luck on your trip...Wish I could go (at least half way anyhow....I'm not too fond of CA other than very short visits.) Collin Michael Cruz wrote: > Hi All! > > In two years, spring-summer of 99', I am a planning to take a cross-country trip > from Washington DC to San Francisco with my CBR and some friends. I was > wondering if any of you had any experience doing this either by car or > motorcycle. What is the fastest, safest, least expensive, and most beautiful > route to take? > How should I prepare? Points of interest, etc... > > If any of you can recommend a book that does an excellent job detailing a route, > please let me know. > > Of course, if any of you are interested making the trip with us, let me know and > I will keep you informed as plans evolve. > > Please advise... > > Thanks in advance, > > Mike Cruz > 96' CBR 600/ red-white / neon yellow rim strips > cruzman@XXXXXX > www.erols.com/cruzman -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jan 4 12:57:38 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA05933; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA09852; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:57:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from sidewinder.s3i.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA05623; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from sidewinder.s3i.com (root@localhost) by sidewinder.s3i.com with ESMTP id MAA00941; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:57:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmo.s3i.com (elmo.s3i.com [10.1.0.2]) by sidewinder.s3i.com with SMTP id MAA00937; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:57:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by elmo.s3i.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA07699; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:57:27 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:57:26 -0500 (EST) From: "Clark E. Dorman" X-Sender: dorman@elmo To: Alan Lapp cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rollerblading In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How we got on rollerblading, I can't imagine, but here goes. I haven't been riding the motorcycle because I broke my leg (again). I was hoping that the weather would be terrible so I wouldn't feel bad about not riding, but of course, this is the nicest winter I've ever seen. My brother has very graciously borrowed my old BMW to make sure that it gets ridden every once in a while. On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, Alan Lapp wrote: > >> Gil... I went out trying out my eight wheelers. (roller > >> blades). I had on elbow pads, knee pads, gloves and wrist > >> protectors (all in spiffy psychedelic colors!!!!) ( still > >> no helmet, though) so.. when I fall...do I fall on my > >> knees, elbows, hands or wrists? HELL no. I fall on my ass, > >> and now have a bruised left cheek. Anyone know how to stop > >> or slow down wearing those damn things?!?!/ Wheres the > >> clutch to pull in! Where's the brake!!!! > > > > We have some guys here that blade.They said you should have a > >'bumper' at the heel of the skate.You stop by rocking back on > >the heel of one of your skates(don't try both at the same time). Yes, the brake is in the back. You slide one of the blades in the front and lift the toe. Learn to do this second. The first thing you should learn is to stand up :-). The alternative to using the brake is to do a t-stop. Put your weight on one foot and put the other foot behind you, perpendicular to the line of travel. > > What's with the goofy colors?All your stuff should be black.And > >don't forget to get chrome wheels for the blades. ;-) > Try hockey pants for your ass. In spite of the fact that I wind up lookin' > pear-shaped, I wear'm snowboarding, and they really help. Excellent idea. > As for stopping: learn how to do a hockey stop. Get all your weight on > your rear skate, crouch down, put your front skate out with all the wheels > touching the ground (i.e. perpendicular to your line of travel) and > *slowly* put weight on the front skate. I'd suggest getting the hockey > pants first cuz the first dozen or 2 times you try this, you'll spin out > because your front skate isn't pointed in exactly the right direction. Um...have you tried this on rollerblades? It doesn't work. On ice it works because the skate scrapes on the ice. On cement/asphalt, the blade either catches or it doesn't and it will get ugly. If you watch rollerblade hockey on tv, they can do a hockey stop because of the surface that they are playing on. Asphalt is way too rough. -- Clark From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jan 4 16:42:07 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07735; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA10753; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:41:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from micros-bh.micros.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07832; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:41:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by micros-bh.micros.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id QAA05144 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:41:27 -0500 Received: from micros.micros.com by micros-bh.micros.com via smap (3.2) id xma005140; Sun, 4 Jan 98 16:41:16 -0500 Received: from smtplink.micros.com (smtplink.micros.com [206.241.52.10]) by micros.micros.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/micros-2.1) with SMTP id QAA20227 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:41:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccMail by smtplink.micros.com (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.00.00) id AA883949898; Sun, 04 Jan 98 16:38:20 -0500 Message-Id: <9801048839.AA883949898@smtplink.micros.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.00.00 Date: Sun, 04 Jan 98 16:36:23 -0500 From: "Brian McCoy" To: Subject: Re[2]: Testing and Hello MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hrm, will this pass like all the other junk that occasionally filters into the list, or am I actually going to have to resort to personal e-mail lists and phone numbers? I guess time will tell.... Brian ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Squeakers, me and Jeanette are right there with ya! DOWN WITH UPPITY BOYS MUAH HA HA HA HA HA HA Add two more to the Nasty Girlies Gang........ (boys, y'all are in some trouble now ;D ) In a message dated 98-01-03 11:00:11 EST, squeakers@XXXXXX writes: << Nasty Girlies? What are the nasty girlies? And hey! Why would they be competition? Id consider them allies for stomping uppity boys gettin too big for their britches and puttin 'em back down on their knees where all boys belong!!!! United we rule!!!!!!! The men will never be the same again!!!!! YEEHAW!!!! Welcome, Julie. Why is he calling you a nasty girlies person? I wanna be a nasty girlie too. I like the way that sounds. :) >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jan 4 16:43:32 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07749; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:43:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA10777; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:43:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from micros-bh.micros.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07861; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by micros-bh.micros.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id QAA05204 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:43:26 -0500 Received: from micros.micros.com by micros-bh.micros.com via smap (3.2) id xma005202; Sun, 4 Jan 98 16:43:18 -0500 Received: from smtplink.micros.com (smtplink.micros.com [206.241.52.10]) by micros.micros.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/micros-2.1) with SMTP id QAA20231 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccMail by smtplink.micros.com (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.00.00) id AA883950022; Sun, 04 Jan 98 16:40:22 -0500 Message-Id: <9801048839.AA883950022@smtplink.micros.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.00.00 Date: Sun, 04 Jan 98 16:40:15 -0500 From: "Brian McCoy" To: Subject: Re: Rollerblading MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ As for stopping: learn how to do a hockey stop. Get all your weight on your rear skate, crouch down, put your front skate out with all the wheels touching the ground (i.e. perpendicular to your line of travel) and *slowly* put weight on the front skate. I'd suggest getting the hockey pants first cuz the first dozen or 2 times you try this, you'll spin out because your front skate isn't pointed in exactly the right direction. Or, do this with the perpendicular skate _behind_ you. It seems to be easier to control spins that way, even if it does taker a tad more effort to slow. I'm not sure how good the wheels are on rollerblades nowadays, but they couldn't handle the shear forces exhibited in the above describe stopping method when I first started (the wheels crumbled). I suspect that tech. has helped out since then though.. Best of luck.. Brian From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jan 4 16:55:49 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07831; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA10831; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:55:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from micros-bh.micros.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08057; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:55:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by micros-bh.micros.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id QAA05577 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:55:26 -0500 Received: from micros.micros.com by micros-bh.micros.com via smap (3.2) id xma005575; Sun, 4 Jan 98 16:55:25 -0500 Received: from smtplink.micros.com (smtplink.micros.com [206.241.52.10]) by micros.micros.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/micros-2.1) with SMTP id QAA20293 for ; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccMail by smtplink.micros.com (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.00.00) id AA883950747; Sun, 04 Jan 98 16:52:30 -0500 Message-Id: <9801048839.AA883950747@smtplink.micros.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.00.00 Date: Sun, 04 Jan 98 16:49:34 -0500 From: "Brian McCoy" To: Subject: what a lame problem... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit geesh.. here I am complaining about my bike running terribly. thinking it was because of bad gas, and water leaks.. Hrm, it's running like it only has 2 of the 4 cylinders... well, I finally looked into the electrical side of this problem.. first thing being the coils.. I pull the tank and right on top, there is no nut holding on the ground to my top coil.. I hold it on with a screwdriver and start the bike.. it runs fine, I wiggle it a llittle. hrrmm, it dies. Go fifigure. so, a new nut installed, a little locktite on the threads.. and it'll never come off again. and I pissed and moaned all day today about not being able to ride in this awesome weather.. what a loser... :P Yup, that's me... Brian From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jan 4 17:57:52 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08743; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 17:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA11093; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 17:55:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08968; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 17:55:46 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 17:55:05 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Success! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) well...I rode today with Jeannette, Sean and Art out to and around Potomac (don't ask me for details I was only paying attention to my bike :D ) It was a great trip though. My bike seems to have stopped torturing me with it's (ok ok it's me!) little idiosyncracies and i think I *finally* got it into my head that it simply won't start in gear with the kickstand down :D Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jan 4 20:59:51 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10754; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:59:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA14081; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA12104; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com (oak.eainet.com [206.136.246.2]) by oak.eainet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA07619; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:04:09 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:04:09 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hartzler Reply-To: Peter Hartzler To: Jinn Sinn cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Starting idiosyncracies [was: Success!] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Marcy -- <$.02> Don't know if you've taken the MSF coure, but in it they teach a starting "checklist" sequence -- FINE-C -- That stands for Fuel (petcock), Ignition (key), Neutral (gear), Engine (switch), Choke. It works for me as a very good little mantra both when starting *and parking* a bike. When starting, this ditty will remind me to clear error conditions such as having been forced to park in first gear due to the grade, and when stopping it reminds me to clear error conditions such as when you stop at the fuel pump on reserve. If you haven't taken a MSF course, I *strongly* recommend it. Heck, I think everybody, even dedicated cagers and old-time self-taught bikers ought to take it. Cheers! Pete. On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > well...I rode today with Jeannette, Sean and Art out to and around Potomac > (don't ask me for details I was only paying attention to my bike :D ) It was > a great trip though. My bike seems to have stopped torturing me with it's (ok > ok it's me!) little idiosyncracies and i think I *finally* got it into my head > that it simply won't start in gear with the kickstand down :D > > Marcy > --- Peter Hartzler Systems Analysis Ellsworth Associates, Inc. ph@XXXXXX (703) 821-3090 x 252 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Jan 4 23:07:13 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA11940; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 23:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA14964; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 23:06:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA13727; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 23:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA06494; Sun, 4 Jan 1998 23:02:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 22:58:00 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: what a lame problem... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <9801048839.AA883950747@smtplink.micros.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Don't feel bad Brian.I was wondering how to cure the problem of my rear head breather bolt leaking oil.Then one day I decided to try and see if tightening it might help.Guess what?It was only finger tight.Problem solved. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38DT Buell S1 Lightning "The Pretty Hate Machine" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 5 01:26:46 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA13616; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 01:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA16900; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 01:26:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from olg.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA15499; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 01:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.226.128.141] (unverified [207.226.128.141]) by olg.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Mon, 05 Jan 1998 01:31:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Starting idiosyncracies [was: Success!] Date: Mon, 5 Jan 98 01:26:37 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: George Howell To: "Peter Hartzler" , "DC Cycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" ><$.02> >Don't know if you've taken the MSF coure, but in it they teach a starting >"checklist" sequence -- FINE-C -- That stands for Fuel (petcock), Ignition >(key), Neutral (gear), Engine (switch), Choke. It works for me as a very >good little mantra both when starting *and parking* a bike. Two bikes, no petcock on either one (not one that can totally be switched off, that is:) And neutral on the BMW? No way:) But, fwiw, I was thinking the same thing. > >If you haven't taken a MSF course, I *strongly* recommend it. Heck, I >think everybody, even dedicated cagers and old-time self-taught bikers >ought to take it. > I was also thinking this. Anybody know when the Beginner course will start in the spring? (For my brother) And ditto with the ERC (for me)? ``` (o o) *------------oooO----(_)-------------------* |..George Howell..ghowell@XXXXXX..........| |.................georgehowell@XXXXXX..| *--------------------------oooO------------* |__||__| || || ooO Ooo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 5 01:40:19 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA13707; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 01:40:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA16978; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 01:40:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA15634; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 01:40:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([12.68.76.214]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAA14316; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 06:39:40 +0000 Reply-To: From: "kevin thomas" To: "George Howell" , "Peter Hartzler" , "DC Cycles" Subject: MSF (was Starting idiosyncracies [was: Success!]) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 01:36:50 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19980105063939.AAA14316@default> George-- You can call the MSF at 1-800-428-RIDE. At least you could last time I tried it....... Later Kevin PS--register asap, or you'll be stuck taking the class on a hot, hot day a long time from now. He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt him who is doing it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 5 08:09:14 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA16910; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:09:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA20291; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:08:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from DONALD.CDER.FDA.GOV by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03127; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr.cder.fda.gov by fdaserv.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.1-8 #21467) id <01IS0E8SNR748ZG99Q@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:07:38 EST Received: with PMDF-MR; Mon, 05 Jan 1998 08:06:06 -0500 (EST) MR-Received: by mta DONALD; Relayed; Mon, 05 Jan 1998 08:06:06 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 08:06:24 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy Subject: Re: what a lame problem... To: DC Cycles Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 08:06:25 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal Sensitivity: Company-Confidential UA-content-id: E1501IEO1RA9H X400-MTS-identifier: [;60608050108991/2224302@FDACD] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 >Don't feel bad Brian. Here's another lamo thing. The rear end of my bike has been wallowing about like crazy. So, I've been calling around looking for a shock but haven't had too much luck finding one at the price I want to pay... The bike has about 40k miles on it so I'm sure the shock is at the end of its life cycle. Anyway, after having a seriously bad time getting through a bumpy corner last week I decided to actually look at the bike. There was hardly any air in the back tire... Turns out I've had a slow leak. I plugged it up yesterday and the bike rode surprisingly well on the trip to work this morning. I've still got to replace that shock but it's nowhere near as bad as I thought it was... Kirk uomo senza cervello From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 5 08:11:50 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA16934; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA20320; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03165; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:11:44 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <28eb043d.34b0dbe6@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:10:59 EST To: ph@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Starting idiosyncracies [was: Success!] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) FINE-C yes I know! I know! I know! My brain was short-circuiting is all...... ;D In a message dated 98-01-04 21:03:15 EST, ph@XXXXXX writes: << <$.02> Don't know if you've taken the MSF coure, but in it they teach a starting "checklist" sequence -- FINE-C -- That stands for Fuel (petcock), Ignition (key), Neutral (gear), Engine (switch), Choke. It works for me as a very good little mantra both when starting *and parking* a bike. When starting, this ditty will remind me to clear error conditions such as having been forced to park in first gear due to the grade, and when stopping it reminds me to clear error conditions such as when you stop at the fuel pump on reserve. I've taken the course and I strongly recommend it as well. It was great. The teachers were excellent. I even drive a car better now............. If you haven't taken a MSF course, I *strongly* recommend it. Heck, I think everybody, even dedicated cagers and old-time self-taught bikers ought to take it. >> Marcy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 5 08:15:35 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA16983; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:15:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA20363; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:15:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03202; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:15:28 -0500 (EST) From: Jinn Sinn Message-ID: <18f35aaf.34b0dcc5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:14:42 EST To: ghowell@XXXXXX, ph@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: MSF Course Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) I don't know exactly when it starts but the email for the Program Director, "Lisa" (don't know her last name) is: NVSASSE@XXXXXX In a message dated 98-01-05 01:32:45 EST, ghowell@XXXXXX writes: << Anybody know when the Beginner course will start in the spring? (For my brother) And ditto with the ERC (for me)? >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 5 08:24:05 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA17070; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:24:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA20477; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:23:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03285; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com (oak.eainet.com [206.136.246.2]) by oak.eainet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA10171; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:28:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:28:30 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hartzler Reply-To: Peter Hartzler To: NVSASSE@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 1998 RiderCourse? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings! I have learned through the DC-Cycles email list discussion that you are the program director for the Virginia MSF RiderCourse. (If this ain't so, then please accept my apologies!) Anyhow, I am very interested in taking the Experienced RiderCourse this year. I also know that other list members are interested, both in the Experienced and in the beginner level course. What is the best way to register for these courses? Best Regards, Pete. --- Peter Hartzler Systems Analysis Ellsworth Associates, Inc. ph@XXXXXX (703) 821-3090 x 252 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 5 08:55:15 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA17417; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:55:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA22378; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:54:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from skippy.umiacs.umd.edu by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA03758; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:54:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com by skippy.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA07411; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:54:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from jil-c_norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.02c) id A6181A501B0; Mon, 05 Jan 1998 08:54:41 EST5EDT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980105083006.009f8220@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 08:30:06 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: PARR Polar Bear Route In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980101201738.0067cab4@illuminet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:17 PM 1/1/98 +0000, Leon Begeman wrote: >The 1998 PARR Polar Bear ride was great fun. I rode with Horkster, Chris >Norloff and Jim Furlong. I met many people on the ride, Karl with his brown >K-LT, and Tim Morrow on his VX800 are the only two I can recall from the >list. I'm certain that I've left several of you out. Excellent ride! I remember meeting Chris Meier, John Carver, and Nancy Weiss from this list. Started at 18 deg., finished at 35 deg. -- which felt quite warm, actually! I lead our first leg, through a lot of slow-speed twisty roads (I mean, posted 10mph corners!). To make matters interesting, there was lots of salt on the roads, and many wet-looking spots. Of course, at 18 deg., the only thing that could be "wet" would be some very salty water, or ice with salty water on top of it! So I poked along at MY maximum sane speed, and that seemed to suit the other riders, too. Leon took the lead after Gainesville and picked up the pace. The roads were much faster and cleaner. Along there I had one of those glorious experiences that make winter riding so enjoyable. Fields and woods full of snow, a red barn, a yellow house, the sun behind some high clouds providing brilliant but not glaring light ... that was really nice. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 5 09:12:58 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17675; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25109; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04111; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:12:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from subspace.tuckerflyer.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.4-PSI) id JAA11259; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:11:36 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D34F3A1@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Julie Holm'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Testing and Hello Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:10:28 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Hi Julie! I've talked to you before (via e-mail) when I linked up to your Nasty Girlie page! LOVED IT. Everyone needs to check this page out! I'm still waiting to be put on the page myself!! ; ) Any nominations?? - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Julie Holm [SMTP:holm@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, January 02, 1998 9:34 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Testing and Hello > > I've just subscribed, and I am testing out if my message makes it. > > Hello all! > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > Julie Holm (ENTP)| DoD #1604 AMA#397939 UKMC# 0001 VOC# 4672 > holm@XXXXXX | 1985 Virago 700 "Maureen" > | I'm home at http://www.ziplink.net/~holm > NGG Webmistress | Remember the PINK PAGES are always changing (Just > and Armourer | like a Nasty Girlie's mind!) > | NGG home page > http://www.ziplink.net/~holm/ngg/ngg.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 5 09:16:12 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17721; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:16:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25689; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:15:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04212; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by mailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/McCaw V8 version 1) id GAA28339; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 06:15:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id GAA02857; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 06:15:21 -0800 Received: from hq_msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id GAA02852; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 06:15:20 -0800 Received: by hq_msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BD19A1.4B5DF600@XXXXXX>; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 06:15:18 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'Peter Hartzler'" , "'Jinn Sinn'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Starting idiosyncracies [was: Success!] Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 06:12:00 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Encoding: 64 TEXT Here, here to touting the MSF course. Well worth a weekend of your time and about $85. If you need details about the course held at Northern VA college, let me know. Ursulina Viteri 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC HAPPY HOLIDAYS! >-----Original Message----- >From: Peter Hartzler [SMTP:ph@XXXXXX] >Sent: Sunday, January 04, 1998 6:04 PM >To: Jinn Sinn >Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Starting idiosyncracies [was: Success!] > >Marcy -- > ><$.02> >Don't know if you've taken the MSF coure, but in it they teach a starting >"checklist" sequence -- FINE-C -- That stands for Fuel (petcock), Ignition >(key), Neutral (gear), Engine (switch), Choke. It works for me as a very >good little mantra both when starting *and parking* a bike. > >When starting, this ditty will remind me to clear error conditions such as >having been forced to park in first gear due to the grade, and when >stopping it reminds me to clear error conditions such as when you stop at >the fuel pump on reserve. > > > >If you haven't taken a MSF course, I *strongly* recommend it. Heck, I >think everybody, even dedicated cagers and old-time self-taught bikers >ought to take it. > > >Cheers! > >Pete. > >On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, Jinn Sinn wrote: > >> well...I rode today with Jeannette, Sean and Art out to and around Potomac >> (don't ask me for details I was only paying attention to my bike :D ) It >>was >> a great trip though. My bike seems to have stopped torturing me with it's >>(ok >> ok it's me!) little idiosyncracies and i think I *finally* got it into my >>head >> that it simply won't start in gear with the kickstand down :D >> >> Marcy >> > >--- >Peter Hartzler >Systems Analysis >Ellsworth Associates, Inc. >ph@XXXXXX >(703) 821-3090 x 252 > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 5 09:23:17 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17890; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:23:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA26562; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:23:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04333; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:23:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.34.247.199] (1Cust199.tnt3.tco2.da.uu.net [153.34.247.199]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26910 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 06:23:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 06:23:04 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01bd1932$86fe16a0$8223accf@michael-a.-cruz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: Re: Cross Country Trip, USA Baby!!! (long) >Hi All! > >In two years, spring-summer of 99', I am a planning to take a >cross-country trip >from Washington DC to San Francisco with my CBR and some friends. I was >wondering if any of you had any experience doing this either by car or >motorcycle. What is the fastest, safest, least expensive, and most beautiful >route to take? >How should I prepare? Points of interest, etc... > >If any of you can recommend a book that does an excellent job detailing a >route, >please let me know. > >Of course, if any of you are interested making the trip with us, let me >know and >I will keep you informed as plans evolve. > >Please advise... Mike: This fall, I did almost exactly the trip you describe on my '94 FZR1000. I went south to Atlanta GA, Pensacola FLA, New Orleans LA, Austin TX, Phoenix AZ, Los Angeles CA, San Fransisco CA, Yosemite National Park CA, Albequerque NM, and a couple of small towns on the way back. I was planning on coming back across the Rockies, but late October was too late in the season: there was already snow on many of the high passes. That's why I went south directly after Yosemite NP! Froze my ass off in the mountains!!! I was bummed at missing the mountains. So, timing is very important! Go north in the summer, and return south in the fall... if you have the time. It took me 3 weeks, I visited family and friends along the way - I only spent about 7 or 8 nights in a motel. I'd say that the southern route, which is Interstate 10, is a very beautiful trip if you like 'western' scenery (i.e. lots of open spaces). However, I'd suggest that you avoid I-10 between New Orleans and Texas: it's *terribly* bumpy. Austin is a beautiful city, in fact, I do believe that I'm going to move there someday. Highly recommended: university town, good culture, awesome music scene, great food, georgeous scenery, and some of the finest riding I've ever experienced in the Hill Country. Try to get there for 2-3 days over a weekend. It was the best stop in my trip! As far as expense, everything on I-10 is high, altho being from the DC area, I didn't find prices terribly objectionable in most areas, but did pay $1.96/gal for a tankfull of premium in AZ. Camping is really the cheapest way, but you should investigate availability beforehand, perhaps a membership in KOA. Many campgrounds and motels in tourist areas close in late October. BTW: there is such a thing as being too frugal with a motel: for example, never ever stay in a place advertising weekly and monthly rates, locted on the same street as a check cashing service or place that buys aluminum cans for cash. Trust me on this! Best recomendation: join AAA for their map service. They won't tow a MC, but will provide gasoline and a jump start if stranded. They have the best maps available, certainly for the price (which is free to members). Safety: I went solo, but a friend would have been really nice, and provided some peace of mind. Don't try to put in too many miles in one day. I went as high as 900 miles, but that was pretty harsh, and somewhat dangerous. I stuck to interstates the whole way, and found them to be extremely safe, with little risk of running out of gas, dangerous pavement conditions, or Persons of Questionable Ethics (i.e. thieves and bandits). I was warned repeatedly about such persons in New Orleans, and have personal experience with their sort in coastal Florida between Orlando and Daytona. Also, try to leave early in the AM, and don't travel at night, mostly because navigational errors are much easier when it's dark. This also facilitates camping! Nothing sucks quite as bad as trying to set up camp when it's dark, and you're beat. Gear: tankbag, soft saddlebags, and a large duffel across the back. Keep packing simple. My gear was held on by two bungies, and could be put on and taken off in under 5 minutes. REI sells wonderful dry sacks (a heavy plastic sack with a roll-down top) for sleeping bags and other moisture sensative stuff like yer undies. They come in a variety of sizes. A CamelBack proved indespensable, not just for hydration: I used the water to keep cool, and wash my faceshield. I took a pretty comprehensive first aid kit oriented towards the kind of injuries most likely to be suffered in a MC accident: specifically, lots of gauze to stop bleeding, and some splinting material for broken bones. BTW: I wore leathers for the entire trip, with only a little short sleeve riding when temps exceeded 90 in the desert. Also, don't pack your gear full: it expands on the road. Tools: know your bike, and know how to fix it. Take anything (which may mean spare parts) you'd need to repair common ailments on your bike. The most common problem is broken levers and flat tires. I didn't take any special tools or parts, but would recommend taking a can of fix-a-flat. It's not like you're going to be able to fix a broken trans on the road, so keep that in mind when packing: tools weigh a lot! And, my favorite suggestion: don't be shy about buying souviners: you can always ship them home by mail! My best friend and I are planning on riding to Alaska in the summer of 99... keep me posted as to your plans. Perhaps some portion of our ride can overlap! Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 5 09:36:09 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA18045; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:36:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27554; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:36:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.mcit.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04552; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:35:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id IAA16118; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 08:35:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (nmta2.mcit.com [166.37.172.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA07860; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by nmta2.mcit.com.mci.com (Intermail v3.1 117 234) with SMTP id <19980105143526.WECI6587@[166.41.242.141]>; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:35:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 09:15 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Peer To: George Howell CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Saturday ride maybe? X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980105143526.WECI6587@[166.41.242.141]> We rode Out to Middleburg, Snickersville Tpk, rt 601, rt638 and stopped in Front Royal to yak for about 40 minutes then turned up 55 to home. Brian took off for more riding at Plains. Me Brian Collin The roads suck out west (VA) folks. There is sand and gravel mixed with salt, in heavy doses on some of the finer roads. As Collin put it, "it's hard to find your line with just 24 inches of road to work with." It also seemed to get a little colder the further west we went, which explains the two slush fields we traversed. I think the winter riding season will need to be toned down to local roads (heavily travelled), or we should hope for a couple of really heavy rainstorms in the mountains. Todd Message-ID: Subject: Re: Saturday ride maybe? Date: Sat, 3 Jan 98 17:32:56 -0500 From: George Howell To: "Todd Peer" >Hey, if your listening >call me at 703.644.2695 > >Brian M and I are leaving in about half an hour. > >Cell Phone 703.909.0978 Bummer. I was cleaning up the mess(es) that my girlfriend's dog left in my room last night. I did make it down to Morton's BMW today. Along with most of BMWBMW (to my surprise). Good day for riding. Where did you wind up going? -George From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 5 09:36:10 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA18050; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:36:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27557; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:36:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA04556; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [153.34.247.199] (1Cust199.tnt3.tco2.da.uu.net [153.34.247.199]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15361 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 06:35:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 06:35:59 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: level_5_ltd@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Alan Lapp Subject: Re: Rollerblading >How we got on rollerblading, I can't imagine, but here goes. Blame Squeakers... she started it. Imagine that. :) I haven't >been riding the motorcycle because I broke my leg (again). I was hoping >that the weather would be terrible so I wouldn't feel bad about not >riding, but of course, this is the nicest winter I've ever seen. My >brother has very graciously borrowed my old BMW to make sure that it gets >ridden every once in a while. Bummer about your leg! I spent my time in a cast last year: broke my ankle on my racebike, then the week after I got out of that, got rear-ended on my VFR. Arrrgh. [Bill Clinton voice] I feel your pain! >Um...have you tried this on rollerblades? It doesn't work. On ice it >works because the skate scrapes on the ice. On cement/asphalt, the blade >either catches or it doesn't and it will get ugly. If you watch >rollerblade hockey on tv, they can do a hockey stop because of the surface >that they are playing on. Asphalt is way too rough. Heh. I have to admit, I'm not too adept on rollerblades. I can't do this, nor skate backwards. I haven't tried very hard, though. One of my best friends stops this way quite a bit. It's rough on the wheels: he goes through 2 sets per summer, even with rotating them. We also aren't street skaters, we primarily play hockey, and as such, don't have the brakes: it makes crossovers hard. Al level_5_ltd@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 5 13:00:41 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21671; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02361; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:00:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10234; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:00:13 -0500 (EST) From: WantA ZX6 Message-ID: <3ef2c20c.34b11cf8@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:48:37 EST To: suzuki-l@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Synthetic Oil....how???? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) I just passed 5000 miles on my TL and want to switch to synthetic oil. Can anyone give me a step by step "guide" on how to properly do it? I have heard that it is bad for synthetics to mix with leftover petroleum oil. Fact or fiction? Also, what weight should I use? Suggestions on brands? Thanks Jack From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 5 13:23:25 1998 Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu by pita.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA22049; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:23:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03050; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:23:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA10843; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:23:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:25:27 -0500 Message-ID: