From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 4 02:38:35 1997 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 02:37:20 -0500 (EST) From: James Williams To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 84 honda nighthawk 4 sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII And this is for a friend as well... 1984 Honda Nighthawk 700S Corbin seat (& stock) Supertrapp Exhaust Shop manual, Parts fiche 17k miles Good condition, well maintained $2200.00 Leave message at 202-518-0772 For jpeg e-mail jim@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 4 02:38:38 1997 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 02:35:50 -0500 (EST) From: James Williams To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: help wanted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm posting this for a friend. Washington D.C.'s only international motorcycle dealership offers full-time employment opportunity for experienced and career oriented motorcycle technicians. Six technicians currently employed at dynamic and growing business. Full service dealership sells and services seven different brands of motorcycles and is actively involved in road racing. Year round employment with attractive salary, health and retirement benefits. Contact YT: yt@XXXXXX 301-926-3384 (leave message) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 9 11:31:29 1997 From: "Mantei, Debra, SSg, OSD/C3I +" To: "'dc-cycles-info'" , "'ltdlist'" Subject: FW: Bike for Sale Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:30:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 36 TEXT ---------- From: Mantei, Debra, SSg, OSD/C3I + To: 'dc-cycles-info'; 'ltdlist' Subject: Bike for Sale Date: Monday, October 28, 1996 11:21AM Hi, this is Debbie. I'd still like to sell my 82 KZ 550 LTD. It's not in the prettiest bike I've seen, but mechanically it runs very well. Here's a little about it: When I bought it last Jan 96, it had just had new carbs and a new black paint job. When I got it, I immediately put new tires and new battery into it. Over the summer my fiancer and I have put about 100 or 150 miles on the bike and it has had a recent oil change and tune-up. There's a little scattered surface rust on the wheel covers and a lttle on the exhaust, but a little TLC and you could probably fit it up. All totalled there are approx 8,200 miles on the bike. There was one other owner beside myself and it was covered during bad weather. It's a good bike, but because it's an 82, it's not a "brand new" bike, nor does it look like one. It is currently under a current VA inspection and it WILL pass the 97 inspection with NO problem. Everything works, and it's a comfortable bike. It has a stepped seat and the handle grips are still in good condition. Only reason for selling is that I live in a condo, no place to store it and I choose not to take up riding any further. With winter coming on, neither myself nor my mate will be riding it and I don't want to pay insurance and inspection if it's not being used. I am flexible and negotiable as to price. I paid $800 in Jan and have put approx. $300 into it, but don't mind negotiating whatever price you can afford. Any and all inquiries can be made to: debra.mantei@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 9 14:34:45 1997 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 15:17:28 -0800 From: Philip Honsinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Washington DC motorcycle trip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I could use some advice on a motorcycle trip I plan on taking this June to the Washington DC area. Do's and don'ts would be very helpful.. Thanks for the time, Phil From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 9 17:14:39 1997 From: To: , Subject: RE: Washington DC motorcycle trip Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 17:13:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Encoding: 31 TEXT Ok, don't. Unless you like 3 hour traffic backups, driveby shootings, potholes up to your armpits, above-the-law-diplomats who drive like nuts, rude drivers in general, etc. etc. etc. I wouldn't wish DC driving on anybody. I did it once and lived. Won't tempt the fates a second time. Stick to western parts of Maryland, Virgina. Beautiful roads, nice hills and twisties, enough straitaways to have fun on. Avoid cities dumb enough to elect (and keep re-electing) folks for mayor like Marion Barry. He's screwing that city up more ways than I thought possible. Rubber side down. Horkster ---------- From: Philip Honsinger To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Washington DC motorcycle trip Date: Thursday, January 09, 1997 6:17PM I could use some advice on a motorcycle trip I plan on taking this June to the Washington DC area. Do's and don'ts would be very helpful.. Thanks for the time, Phil From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 13 09:58:43 1997 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:53:26 -0500 From: "Christopher A. Meier" Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: [Fwd: terminology] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit All, Kinda funny, thought I would pass it on. Enjoy. chris MJ Fransen wrote: > > Hi guys & girls, > > This is something a friend of mine picked up from the > PanEuropean-list (PanEuropean's are some kind of > motorcycles build by that other company, Honda), > > Hope you enjoy it: > > Motorcycling Definitions for the Computer User. > (original author unknown) > > ACCESS TIME- The time between buying a new bike and getting it home, at > which time either the warranty has expired, or something breaks that isn't > covered by the aformentioned warranty. > > ASSEMBLER- The guy that puts your bike's engine together after you tear it > down and discover you haven't the slightest idea how to put it back > together. > > BIT- The increment by which riders slowly go mad after discovering how much > the Assembler has charged them (see ASSEMBLER). > > BREAKPOINT- The point at which you have absolutely no money or other form > of transportation and your cycle commits suicide. > > CHAINING- A curious pastime conducted on rarely used backroads and > abandoned trails that consists of repeatedly yelling profanities and > striking a bikes seat, rear fender/tail section and tires with small > interconnected lengths of metal that, save for a missing item known as a > masterlink, would normally be used to propel said bike. > > CHECKPOINT- A location chosen at random by helpful law enforcement > officials to assist motorcyclists in discovering that they have left their > licenses, registrations, and proof of insurance at home. > > COUNTER- An area at your local dealers, over which will pass several > thousands of dollars, all of it yours, and for which you will recieve a > small, insignificant part that probably cost .0045 cents to produce. Yet, > when missing from your motorcycle, causes absolutely nothing to happen, > including internal combustion. > > CRASH- The point during a turn immediately after the bike's tires decide to > inform you that they are somewhat low on tread. > > DEFAULT- Term used by friendy law enforcement personnel and insurance > adjusters to direct blame after an accident. > > DISKETTES- New type of brake similar to disc brakes, but created and named > by trendy yuppie designers. > > DOCUMENTATION- A manual that comes with the bike, consisting of incorrect, > misleading, and useless information, all of which you must follow to the > letter to conform to the sales agreement, and therefore the warranty. > > ERROR- Clerical function as common as addition, subtraction, and > multiplication. Used primarily in financing agreements (see I/O DEVICE). > > EXTERNAL STORAGE- The 2 by 2 inch space on a bike, 1 inch of which is > occupied by a lock, that you are expected to carry a full complement of > tools in. > > FIXED WORD LENGTH- Denotes the primary length for profanitys, four. > > FLOATING CONTROL- Characteristic exhibited by riders that have to go to the > bathroom, but are on a particularly visible section of expressway. > > FLOATING POINT- The absolute limit before Floating Control is lost. > > HARDWARE- Type of store frequented by riders wishing to purchase a .05 cent > bolt that would normally cost $9.00 at the local Bike dealers. > > I/O DEVICE- Contract signed with a major finacial institutuion in order to > get a loan for a new/old bike. > > LOAD- What is released after reaching the Floating Point. > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher A. Meier Computer Sciences Corporation Washington, DC "Nature is a language, can’t you read?" 1994 Suzuki RF900R -Smiths AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 13 11:28:50 1997 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:25:11 -0500 From: "Christopher A. Meier" Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: HORSTMD@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, philip@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Washington DC motorcycle trip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Interesting comments... I love riding in the district, and do so about 3 times a week. Something about driving in the city, that heghtens your senses and keeps you sharp. Rock Creek is nice, monument tours are great by bike, the parkways, both GW and Balt-Wash are fun rides (not in rush hour mind you), and hello....parking is incredibly easy. Tons of space left by idiots who leave huge gaps between cars, that are perfect for the bike, but too small for another car. Only real gotcha is that you will get ticketed if you share a meter. As far as our illustirous mayor is concerned: Ah, yes he has honked up this city pretty badly, but I don't recal Phil wanting to move here, only take a trip and a tour. Washington is one of the best cities in the world for that. To each his own, but I would highly recommend a bike trip to the District. Same rules, safety and common sense, apply as would for any other major metropolitan area. chris PS. Phil if you need recommendations on hotels/campgrounds/restaurants/tours or whatever, feel free to let me know HORSTMD@XXXXXX wrote: > > Ok, don't. > > Unless you like 3 hour traffic backups, driveby shootings, > potholes up to your armpits, above-the-law-diplomats who drive > like nuts, rude drivers in general, etc. etc. etc. > > I wouldn't wish DC driving on anybody. I did it once and lived. > Won't tempt the fates a second time. > > Stick to western parts of Maryland, Virgina. Beautiful roads, nice > hills and twisties, enough straitaways to have fun on. > > Avoid cities dumb enough to elect (and keep re-electing) folks > for mayor like Marion Barry. He's screwing that city up more > ways than I thought possible. > > Rubber side down. > Horkster > > ---------- > From: Philip Honsinger > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Washington DC motorcycle trip > Date: Thursday, January 09, 1997 6:17PM > > I could use some advice on a motorcycle trip I plan on taking this June > to the Washington DC area. Do's and don'ts would be very helpful.. > > Thanks for the time, > > Phil -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher A. Meier Computer Sciences Corporation Washington, DC "Nature is a language, can’t you read?" 1994 Suzuki RF900R -Smiths AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 13 12:56:32 1997 From: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:55:32 -0500 (EST) To: cmeier1@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Washington DC motorcycle trip In a message dated 97-01-13 12:50:19 EST, cmeier1@XXXXXX (Christopher A. Meier) writes: << As far as our illustirous mayor is concerned: Ah, yes he has honked up this city pretty badly, but I don't recal Phil wanting to move here, only take a trip and a tour. Washington is one of the best cities in the world for that. To each his own, but I would highly recommend a bike trip to the District. Same rules, safety and common sense, apply as would for any other major metropolitan area. >> I agree completely; it is a great city. And as far as a mismanaging local government goes, the city was much, much more of a financial and moral mess in the 19th century than it is today. Steve From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 13 13:01:27 1997 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "cmeier1@XXXXXX" , "HORSTMD@XXXXXX" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "philip@XXXXXX" Date: Mon, 13 Jan 97 13:05:23 +0600 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's Registered PMMail 1.52 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Washington DC motorcycle trip >I love riding in the district, and do so about 3 times a week. >Something about driving in the city, that heghtens your senses and keeps >you sharp. Rock Creek is nice, monument tours are great by bike, the >parkways, both GW and Balt-Wash are fun rides (not in rush hour mind >you), and hello....parking is incredibly easy. Tons of space left by >idiots who leave huge gaps between cars, that are perfect for the bike, >but too small for another car. Only real gotcha is that you will get >ticketed if you share a meter. I haven't had any problem with that, myself. I asked two parking meter patrol officers, and one didn't like the idea (of parking a bike and a car in the same "parking spot") but wouldn't give any details, and the other officer said it didn't matter, but if the meter expires and you're in the slot you get a ticket. (I find the best parking slots at the beginning and ending of each block, where the last parking slot may be extra long because the block length is not a multiple of parking-slot-lengths.) Love those hard-and-fast rules ticket writers use! Chris Norloff P.S. I met a biker who always parks his bike right at the meter, perpendicular to the curb. That way he figures, if even one car has paid, then he won't get a ticket. He said it works well for him, and the occasional $15 ticket is cheaper than always paying for parking! P.P.S. Another rule I learned about is parking at a dead or missing parking meter. The ticket-writers note when they saw you park there, and ticket you if you stay longer than the maximum time allowed to park or the maximum time you can pay for on the meter (I assume those two times are supposed to be the same). I, and other bikers, regularly park in a slot missing its meter, and we've never had any trouble (for about a year now, with 4 ticket-writing patrols per day). P.P.P.S :-) For me, a cycle is the only way to get around in the city. Sure, it can be urban warfare when riding, but mostly it's not. And with the bike it's easy to get away from some Neanderthal in a car. The two prime advantages of cycles -- being able to get through automobile gridlock, and always being able to park -- greatly outweigh the disadvantages. Still, city riding is really for experienced riders only -- manhole covers, metal plates on the road, potholes, disappearing lanes, red-light runners ... it's a real busy time to be riding. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 13 13:27:59 1997 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:26:34 -0500 From: Dave_Choat@XXXXXX (Dave Choat) Subject: Re[2]: Washington DC motorcycle trip To: cmeier1@XXXXXX, HORSTMD@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, philip@XXXXXX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Well... >Something about driving in the city, that heghtens your senses and keeps >you sharp. Like getting shot at. I would seriously recommend staying out of some of the more seamy areas after hours, also make damn sure you lock your bike up securely. I have chased people off of my bike, my friend has had his lock punched (despite a krypto visible) and vehiucle car jacking is well known here. On weekends it is fine, stay out in public though. Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 13 13:57:33 1997 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:53:14 -0500 From: "Christopher A. Meier" Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: [Fwd: Re: Washington DC motorcycle trip] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7E614F2D5C71" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7E614F2D5C71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit whoops, forgot to cc: the list. :-) chris Christopher A. Meier wrote: > > Dave, > > Well put and I agree, _especially_ if you are not familiar with the > areas. There are a lot of places I will go, that others don't, but I > know the lay of the land. > > However, I would like to point out that your comments, although valid, > are not specific to DC. That advice holds true in any major > metropolitan area. > > Don't mean to start a huge thread here, but as someone who has lived in > the District for years and now lives in Arlington, VA, I am tired of > hearing the District get such a bad rap. On a side note, I believe that > DC is actually safer than most large cities in the country. Why? > Because there is still alot of separation between the bad and good parts > of town. People don't get shot or mugged on the mall or in the business > district. > > Ever been to LA? That city is very different. When I lived there I was > amazed at the amount of totally random violence. You never knew where > it was going to happen. In DC you can predict it pretty well and if you > avoid those areas (which have very little if any tourist attractions in > them, outside the Frederick Douglas home and Arboretum) you are really > very safe. Once again, common sense rules that apply to all cities need > to be followed. > > chris > > On a side note, if I had to get out of a bad situation, I would much > rather do it on a bike!! :-) > > Dave Choat wrote: > > > > Well... > > >Something about driving in the city, that heghtens your senses and keeps > > >you sharp. > > Like getting shot at. I would seriously recommend staying out of some of the > > more seamy areas after hours, also make damn sure you lock your > > bike up securely. I have chased people off of my bike, my friend > > has had his lock punched (despite a krypto visible) and > > vehiucle car jacking is well known here. > > > > On weekends it is fine, stay out in public though. > > > > Dave > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Christopher A. Meier > Computer Sciences Corporation > Washington, DC "Nature is a language, can’t you read?" > 1994 Suzuki RF900R -Smiths > AMA #470094 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher A. Meier Computer Sciences Corporation Washington, DC "Nature is a language, can’t you read?" 1994 Suzuki RF900R -Smiths AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------7E614F2D5C71 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:51:01 -0500 From: "Christopher A. Meier" Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Choat Subject: Re: Washington DC motorcycle trip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dave, Well put and I agree, _especially_ if you are not familiar with the areas. There are a lot of places I will go, that others don't, but I know the lay of the land. However, I would like to point out that your comments, although valid, are not specific to DC. That advice holds true in any major metropolitan area. Don't mean to start a huge thread here, but as someone who has lived in the District for years and now lives in Arlington, VA, I am tired of hearing the District get such a bad rap. On a side note, I believe that DC is actually safer than most large cities in the country. Why? Because there is still alot of separation between the bad and good parts of town. People don't get shot or mugged on the mall or in the business district. Ever been to LA? That city is very different. When I lived there I was amazed at the amount of totally random violence. You never knew where it was going to happen. In DC you can predict it pretty well and if you avoid those areas (which have very little if any tourist attractions in them, outside the Frederick Douglas home and Arboretum) you are really very safe. Once again, common sense rules that apply to all cities need to be followed. chris On a side note, if I had to get out of a bad situation, I would much rather do it on a bike!! :-) Dave Choat wrote: > > Well... > >Something about driving in the city, that heghtens your senses and keeps > >you sharp. > Like getting shot at. I would seriously recommend staying out of some of the > more seamy areas after hours, also make damn sure you lock your > bike up securely. I have chased people off of my bike, my friend > has had his lock punched (despite a krypto visible) and > vehiucle car jacking is well known here. > > On weekends it is fine, stay out in public though. > > Dave -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher A. Meier Computer Sciences Corporation Washington, DC "Nature is a language, can’t you read?" 1994 Suzuki RF900R -Smiths AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------7E614F2D5C71-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 13 14:04:49 1997 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "DC Cycles" Date: Mon, 13 Jan 97 14:10:32 +0600 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's Registered PMMail 1.52 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Re[2]: Washington DC motorcycle trip On Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:26:34 -0500, Dave Choat wrote: ... > and > vehiucle car jacking is well known here. Yow! Has anybody actually had a bike jacked? I mean, having the bike taken by force while you're riding? I've heard of people (kids) pushing motorcyclists over at traffic lights ...( must be the urban version of cow-tipping), but that's about all. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 13 15:33:05 1997 From: mehran.firouzbakht@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 13 Jan 97 15:30:56 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Chris Norloff" Subject: Re[4]: Washington DC motorcycle trip I had a guy jump on the back of my bike at a red light in Downtown Baltimore once. He demanded that I run the light and take him somewhere. Luckily, I had some friends riding with me and they pulled up beside me and pulled a gun on the guy and told him to get off or he was gonna get his head shot off. Talk about some strange F*CKS. I think he was trying to run away from somebody and didn't know enough about bikes to knock me off and drive off himself. Anyway, the guy got off and ran away faster than I could thank my friend for packing. FZR Yow! Has anybody actually had a bike jacked? I mean, having the bike taken by force while you're riding? I've heard of people (kids) pushing motorcyclists over at traffic lights ...( must be the urban version of cow-tipping), but that's about all. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 13 17:17:18 1997 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 13 Jan 97 17:10:35 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re[5]: Washington DC motorcycle trip I'm not even going to ask about the gun but, an alternative solution would be a quick wheelie. Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." RZ350, CB-1 ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re[4]: Washington DC motorcycle trip Author: mehran.firouzbakht@XXXXXX at MNGNET Date: 1/13/97 3:30 PM I had a guy jump on the back of my bike at a red light in Downtown Baltimore once. He demanded that I run the light and take him somewhere. Luckily, I had some friends riding with me and they pulled up beside me and pulled a gun on the guy and told him to get off or he was gonna get his head shot off. Talk about some strange F*CKS. I think he was trying to run away from somebody and didn't know enough about bikes to knock me off and drive off himself. Anyway, the guy got off and ran away faster than I could thank my friend for packing. FZR Yow! Has anybody actually had a bike jacked? I mean, having the bike taken by force while you're riding? I've heard of people (kids) pushing motorcyclists over at traffic lights ...( must be the urban version of cow-tipping), but that's about all. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 13 18:42:32 1997 From: mehran.firouzbakht@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 13 Jan 97 18:41:19 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, BWEINER@XXXXXX Subject: Re[6]: Washington DC motorcycle trip Yeah, and get my neck cut off, or even run into other cars at a red light. I don't think so. Homey don't play that. I'm not even going to ask about the gun but, an alternative solution would be a quick wheelie. Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." RZ350, CB-1 I had a guy jump on the back of my bike at a red light in Downtown Baltimore once. He demanded that I run the light and take him somewhere. Luckily, I had some friends riding with me and they pulled up beside me and pulled a gun on the guy and told him to get off or he was gonna get his head shot off. Talk about some strange F*CKS. I think he was trying to run away from somebody and didn't know enough about bikes to knock me off and drive off himself. Anyway, the guy got off and ran away faster than I could thank my friend for packing. FZR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 14 10:31:06 1997 From: "Bruce B. Dimon, VRC, Bayview, Idaho" Organization: CDNSWC Acoustic Research Detachment To: "Chris Norloff" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "philip@XXXXXX" , cmeier1@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 07:27:03 PST Subject: District Motorcycle Parking Meters Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) I'm surprised nobody mentioned the motorcycle-only parking meters in the District. That's the nicest thing the city government does for bikers and I wish other big cities would copy them. The meters still cost a quarter but you get four times as long as the cars (1 hour versus 15 minutes). Also the maximum time is four times longer, you can park a bike at these meters for up to 8 hours instead of the car's two hour limit. The locations of the bike parking areas tend to be in the business districts but there was one across from the Pavilion at the Old Post Office. That would be Pennsylvania Ave and, what, 10th Street? It's one block from the FBI Headquarters and two blocks (right?) from the Mall. Plus the Old Post Office is a neat place to eat lunch and has the best view of D.C. from its tower. Yeah, I like it better than the the view from the Washington Monument. Some years ago I called up the D.C. Parking Division and asked for a list of motorcycle parking areas. An hour later, they faxed me the locations of all the bike parking meters in the city. Quick, courteous service! North Idaho, the land of lakes and lattes! Vector Research Company, Inc. 208-683-2080 Computer Lab: 208-683-2321 X4410 Fax: 208-683-2036 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 14 10:48:19 1997 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 10:44:39 -0500 From: "Christopher A. Meier" Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bruce B. Dimon, VRC, Bayview, Idaho" CC: Chris Norloff , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "philip@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: District Motorcycle Parking Meters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bruce B. Dimon, VRC, Bayview, Idaho wrote: > > I'm surprised nobody mentioned the motorcycle-only parking meters in > the District. That's the nicest thing the city government does for > bikers and I wish other big cities would copy them. Yes they are a great resource. On a side note, I have also had a lot of luck with parking garage managers as well. Go see one of them in the business district, look for a nice nook or cranny in the garage that can't be used for a car, make them an offer for monthly space and 9/10 times they will take it. I had a great set up a few years ago. I was allowed to park my bike back behind a pillar where it couldn't get backed into and the parking guy got $25.00/month for otherwise wasted space. I would guess that this would work in most any city? > The meters still cost a quarter but you get four times as long as the > cars (1 hour versus 15 minutes). Also the maximum time is four times > longer, you can park a bike at these meters for up to 8 hours instead > of the car's two hour limit. Another benefit! > The locations of the bike parking areas tend to be in the business > districts but there was one across from the Pavilion at the Old Post > Office. That would be Pennsylvania Ave and, what, 10th Street? It's > one block from the FBI Headquarters and two blocks (right?) from the > Mall. Yes. There are also motorcycle meters at 14th & K st NW and ~9th and D st SW > Plus the Old Post Office is a neat place to eat lunch and has > the best view of D.C. from its tower. Yeah, I like it better than the > the view from the Washington Monument. The old post office also throws a GREAT New Year's Eve bash! > Some years ago I called up the D.C. Parking Division and asked for a > list of motorcycle parking areas. An hour later, they faxed me the > locations of all the bike parking meters in the city. Quick, courteous > service! If you still have this list, could you let me know? I would like a copy. If it's not too much trouble. > North Idaho, the land of lakes and lattes! > Vector Research Company, Inc. 208-683-2080 > Computer Lab: 208-683-2321 X4410 > Fax: 208-683-2036 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher A. Meier Computer Sciences Corporation Washington, DC "Nature is a language, can’t you read?" 1994 Suzuki RF900R -Smiths AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 14 13:12:08 1997 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "DC Cycles" Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 13:14:17 +0600 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's Registered PMMail 1.52 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: District Motorcycle Parking Meters >> Some years ago I called up the D.C. Parking Division and asked for a >> list of motorcycle parking areas. An hour later, they faxed me the >> locations of all the bike parking meters in the city. Quick, courteous >> service! > >If you still have this list, could you let me know? I would like a >copy. If it's not too much trouble. I just contacted the DC Department of Public Works, and will try to get the current list. I'll post the results to the list. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 14 15:29:49 1997 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "DC Cycles" Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 15:33:16 +0600 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's Registered PMMail 1.52 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: MC Parking Meters in DC I got this faxed to me from the DC Dept. of Public Works, Transportation Systems Administration, 14 January 1997. Parking Tips: 1. When parked in spaces designed for their exclusive use, motorcycles must park in designated areas with rear wheel to the curb. 2. Metered parking is in effect during the hours posted. 3. No motorized vehicle without pedals shall park on islands or sidewalks. 4. Park one motorcycle per stall. 5. Most parking is metered for 12 hours, at 25 cents per hour. 6. Motorcycles may park in metered zones for automobiles providing the parking meter is paid. When parked in spaces designed for automobiles, motorcycles should park parallel to the curb. 800 block Vermont Ave, NW -- 23 spaces 800 block C St. SW -- 10 600 block Indiana Ave. NW -- 6 600 block G St. NW --6 200 block Independence Ave SE -- 9 600 block 2nd St. NW -- 10 spaces 2000 block T St NW -- 10 1300 block New York Ave NW -- 10 1700 block M St. NW -- 31 1400 block G St. NW -- 14 2100 block Eye St. NW -- 10 spaces 1800 block H St NW -- 16 2200 block E St NW -- 9 Unit block G St NW -- 8 1100 block Vermont Ave NW -- 10 1200 block New Hampshire Ave NW -- 20 spaces 1500 block 19th St NW -- 7 1700 block G St NW -- 11 2200 block F St NW -- 6 1400 block M St NW -- 6 300 block Eye St NW -- 14 spaces 600 block E St NW -- 6 900 block 15th St NW -- 12 1800 block Eye St NW -- 9 1300 block K St NW -- 9 1800 block Pennsylvania Ave NW -- 9 spaces 2000 block Florida Ave NW -- 10 300 block Virginia Ave SW -- 10 1800 block M St NW -- 24 1100 block Thomas Jefferson St NW -- 5 3000 block VanNess St NW -- 13 spaces 2500 block 6th St NW -- 10 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 14 15:59:23 1997 From: "Bruce B. Dimon, VRC, Bayview, Idaho" Organization: CDNSWC Acoustic Research Detachment To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 12:55:20 PST Subject: Re: MC Parking Meters in DC Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) > I got this faxed to me from the DC Dept. of Public Works, > Transportation Systems Administration, 14 January 1997. WOW! that was fast service! Thanks for posting it to the list. Of course, I will not need it until 1998. (When my wife wants to move back east, WAH!) North Idaho, the land of lakes and lattes! Vector Research Company, Inc. 208-683-2080 Computer Lab: 208-683-2321 X4410 Fax: 208-683-2036 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 14 16:14:56 1997 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:11:03 -0500 From: "Christopher A. Meier" Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Norloff CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: MC Parking Meters in DC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris Norloff wrote: -snip- > 800 block Vermont Ave, NW -- 23 spaces > 800 block C St. SW -- 10 > 600 block Indiana Ave. NW -- 6 > 600 block G St. NW --6 > 200 block Independence Ave SE -- 9 > > 600 block 2nd St. NW -- 10 spaces > 2000 block T St NW -- 10 > 1300 block New York Ave NW -- 10 > 1700 block M St. NW -- 31 > 1400 block G St. NW -- 14 > > 2100 block Eye St. NW -- 10 spaces > 1800 block H St NW -- 16 > 2200 block E St NW -- 9 > Unit block G St NW -- 8 > 1100 block Vermont Ave NW -- 10 > > 1200 block New Hampshire Ave NW -- 20 spaces > 1500 block 19th St NW -- 7 > 1700 block G St NW -- 11 > 2200 block F St NW -- 6 > 1400 block M St NW -- 6 > > 300 block Eye St NW -- 14 spaces > 600 block E St NW -- 6 > 900 block 15th St NW -- 12 > 1800 block Eye St NW -- 9 > 1300 block K St NW -- 9 > > 1800 block Pennsylvania Ave NW -- 9 spaces > 2000 block Florida Ave NW -- 10 > 300 block Virginia Ave SW -- 10 > 1800 block M St NW -- 24 > 1100 block Thomas Jefferson St NW -- 5 > > 3000 block VanNess St NW -- 13 spaces > 2500 block 6th St NW -- 10 ----------------------------------------------- TOTAL 363 Not bad, not bad at all. Thanks for the info, it will be kept in the clear map pocket on the tank bag!!! chris -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher A. Meier Computer Sciences Corporation Washington, DC "Nature is a language, can’t you read?" 1994 Suzuki RF900R -Smiths AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 14 17:02:40 1997 Date: Tue Jan 14 17:01:20 1997 X-Mailer: Panda-2.0e From: Brian McCoy To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: vfr@XXXXXX Subject: road salt As I walked to my bike this morning, I noticed that my tires are completely covered with the wonderful salt they coat the roads with. I know it plays havic with metal.. but does it have any effect on tire performance? Like, will it eat the rubber or something? I suspest not, otherwise they wouldn't use it... but I'm curious... anyone know? --- Brian McCoy http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 '86 Honda VF500F - Scrappy bmccoy2@XXXXXX Working hard Today for those Dreams of Tomorrow.. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 14 22:15:15 1997 From: snap@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:10:36 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [Fwd: Re: MC Parking Meters in DC] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------752B73656445" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------752B73656445 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found "Motorcycle only parking" in DC at the corner of North Capitol and G St, NW. Here there are no meters so you can park for free. One drawback is that you can't park there on Friday between 12:00-2:30 for street cleaning. Oh yeah, another drawback is that some filthy animals stole my F2 from that spot. Glenn "bike-less" --------------752B73656445 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:11:03 -0500 From: "Christopher A. Meier" Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Norloff CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: MC Parking Meters in DC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris Norloff wrote: -snip- > 800 block Vermont Ave, NW -- 23 spaces > 800 block C St. SW -- 10 > 600 block Indiana Ave. NW -- 6 > 600 block G St. NW --6 > 200 block Independence Ave SE -- 9 > > 600 block 2nd St. NW -- 10 spaces > 2000 block T St NW -- 10 > 1300 block New York Ave NW -- 10 > 1700 block M St. NW -- 31 > 1400 block G St. NW -- 14 > > 2100 block Eye St. NW -- 10 spaces > 1800 block H St NW -- 16 > 2200 block E St NW -- 9 > Unit block G St NW -- 8 > 1100 block Vermont Ave NW -- 10 > > 1200 block New Hampshire Ave NW -- 20 spaces > 1500 block 19th St NW -- 7 > 1700 block G St NW -- 11 > 2200 block F St NW -- 6 > 1400 block M St NW -- 6 > > 300 block Eye St NW -- 14 spaces > 600 block E St NW -- 6 > 900 block 15th St NW -- 12 > 1800 block Eye St NW -- 9 > 1300 block K St NW -- 9 > > 1800 block Pennsylvania Ave NW -- 9 spaces > 2000 block Florida Ave NW -- 10 > 300 block Virginia Ave SW -- 10 > 1800 block M St NW -- 24 > 1100 block Thomas Jefferson St NW -- 5 > > 3000 block VanNess St NW -- 13 spaces > 2500 block 6th St NW -- 10 ----------------------------------------------- TOTAL 363 Not bad, not bad at all. Thanks for the info, it will be kept in the clear map pocket on the tank bag!!! chris -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher A. Meier Computer Sciences Corporation Washington, DC "Nature is a language, can’t you read?" 1994 Suzuki RF900R -Smiths AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------752B73656445-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 15 06:57:26 1997 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 06:57:21 -0500 () From: Morris Berman To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: road salt In-Reply-To: <199701142201.RAA24606@envirolink.org> X-X-Sender: morris@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Speaking of road salt, what's the best to get it off the bike and all the nooks and crannies? -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, morris@XXXXXX, http://www.glue.umd.edu/~morris/ MSB, PFD, WTD, ARL <-- Obviously a Government Employee '96 Kawasaki GPz1100 (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 15 08:39:52 1997 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 08:37:38 -0500 From: Dave_Choat@XXXXXX (Dave Choat) To: snap@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: MC Parking Meters in DC] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.853335246" This is a Mime message, which your current mail reader may not understand. Parts of the message will appear as text. To process the rest, you will have to use a Mime compatible mail reader. Contact your vendor for details. --IMA.Boundary.853335246 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part >Oh yeah, another drawback is that some filthy animals stole my F2 from >that spot. >Glenn "bike-less" My sincere condolences, I have had my bike stolen and wrecked, and my riding buddy never recovered his new RF900R. It simply sucks. Dave --IMA.Boundary.853335246 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part snet.net (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA24012 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:03:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:11:03 -0500 From: "Christopher A. Meier" Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Norloff CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: MC Parking Meters in DC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by tove.cs.umd.edu id WAA0144 7 Chris Norloff wrote: -snip- > 800 block Vermont Ave, NW -- 23 spaces > 800 block C St. SW -- 10 > 600 block Indiana Ave. NW -- 6 > 600 block G St. NW --6 > 200 block Independence Ave SE -- 9 >=20 > 600 block 2nd St. NW -- 10 spaces > 2000 block T St NW -- 10 > 1300 block New York Ave NW -- 10 > 1700 block M St. NW -- 31 > 1400 block G St. NW -- 14 >=20 > 2100 block Eye St. NW -- 10 spaces > 1800 block H St NW -- 16 > 2200 block E St NW -- 9 > Unit block G St NW -- 8 > 1100 block Vermont Ave NW -- 10 >=20 > 1200 block New Hampshire Ave NW -- 20 spaces > 1500 block 19th St NW -- 7 > 1700 block G St NW -- 11 > 2200 block F St NW -- 6 > 1400 block M St NW -- 6 >=20 > 300 block Eye St NW -- 14 spaces > 600 block E St NW -- 6 > 900 block 15th St NW -- 12 > 1800 block Eye St NW -- 9 > 1300 block K St NW -- 9 >=20 > 1800 block Pennsylvania Ave NW -- 9 spaces > 2000 block Florida Ave NW -- 10 > 300 block Virginia Ave SW -- 10 > 1800 block M St NW -- 24 > 1100 block Thomas Jefferson St NW -- 5 >=20 > 3000 block VanNess St NW -- 13 spaces > 2500 block 6th St NW -- 10 ----------------------------------------------- TOTAL 363 Not bad, not bad at all. =20 Thanks for the info, it will be kept in the clear map pocket on the tank bag!!! chris --=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------ Christopher A. Meier Computer Sciences Corporation Washington, DC "Nature is a language, can=92t you read?" 1994 Suzuki RF900R -Smiths AMA #470094=09 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------ --IMA.Boundary.853335246-- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 15 09:12:44 1997 In-Reply-To: <80F6DC3201BD1110@usia.gov> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 9:10:21 -0500 From: "Adams, Bill" Sender: "Adams, Bill" Organization: USIA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX ("DC Cycles") Subject: Re: MC Parking Meters in DC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.20B.6 MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway Some meters have yet to be upgraded (?) to the .25 per hour rate. The ones behind Agriculture are still 3 hours for a quarter. There may be others out there as well. In addition, there is a broken meter at the 600 Indiana Ave. NW location which lets one park for free. (Get there early) Bill Adams 3D Artist/Animator '66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon: "Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 15 10:02:26 1997 From: To: , Cc: Subject: Re: Washington DC motorcycle trip Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:01:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Encoding: 20 TEXT > >I agree completely; it is a great city. And as far as a mismanaging >local government goes, the city was much, much more of a financial >and moral mess in the 19th century than it is today. > >Steve Admittedly, I have not been much of an D.C. urban history buff, but I have trouble believing the city could have been in MORE of a MORAL mess in the past than it is currently. It's a sad state of affairs when the capital of the greatest nation on the planet is in such a pitiful state of moral and urban decay. Sorry for the bleak thoughts, but I just find it sort of ironic. Ride carefully. Horkster From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 15 10:51:00 1997 In-Reply-To: <9AFADC3201BD1110@usia.gov> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:48:03 -0500 From: "Adams, Bill" Sender: "Adams, Bill" Organization: USIA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Washington DC motorcycle trip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.20B.6 MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway Urban decay? you bet. Moral decay? Hardly. Moral shift. Definitely! Bill Adams 3D Artist/Animator '66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon: "Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 15 11:02:56 1997 From: To: , Cc: Subject: RE: road salt Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:01:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Encoding: 40 TEXT In my experience with crappy roads in Pennsylvania, lots of salt. Salt + Metal = Bad, wash it off, or buy a new bike every couple of years Salt + Tires = No problem. The salt doesn't actually do much for traction, but it mixes with the ice/ snow/water mixture and LOWERS it's freezing point (by some amount). The goal is not to have sheets of ice on the roads. A nasty, salty slush is somehow deemed more preferable (don't ask me why). So to answer your question, if your bike grips better on pavement than ice, tire performance is increased. No treadlife/premature aging concerns have ever been noticed by anyone I know. Sand is used in places where abundant (East Coast), but is more for traction, since it is ineffective changing freezing point. Burned wood ash is also used in lots of places in place of sand. Lots of sand on the roads in Woodbridge, VA. I rode the snow bike (92 Nissan Stanza) today. Probably will keep doing so until a good rain comes along and washes some of this stuff away. Horkster ---------- From: Brian McCoy snip .. but does it have any effect on tire performance? Like, will it eat the rubber or something? I suspest not, otherwise they wouldn't use it... but I'm curious... anyone know? --- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 15 11:10:01 1997 From: To: , Subject: Advice for tourists in DC Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:10:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Encoding: 77 TEXT I didn't wake up intending to bash the District this morning, but I seem to be doing a pretty good job of it. Time to keep up the pace. Humor is a great thing. Humor based in reality is even funnier. I got a real kick out of some of these. Enjoy. Horkster ___________________________________________________ Every year ga-zillions of visitors flock to the District of Columbia to soak up the majesty of the nation's capitol. As an ambassador of the District, you should be helpful and freely give: ************Advice for tourists in DC, such as:******************* *Find and use the dining car on the Metro *Play a game of handball at the unique v-shaped black marble court on the mall by the Lincoln Memorial *Single women should not miss Dupont Circle, where you will find many good-looking unmarried men *Help keep the nation's capital clean: after entering the Metro through the turnstile, deposit your used fare card in the trash can *Don't miss the weekly weenie roasts at the Eternal Flame *The best way to get to D.C. is to take the Capitol Beltway until you hit the Capitol *When taking a taxi, ask to see as many "zones" as possible. This is a delightful way to see the city *There's free parking for Ryder rental trucks next to the FBI Building *If you get thirsty while walking around town, stop in the Mayor's office or residence and ask for some Coke *In all Metro stations, be sure to stop immediately at the top or bottom of each escalator and take a roll call of everyone in your party before proceeding. *If the cab doesn't have a meter, you ride for free *Make sure to visit the 19th century French Impressionist "Scratch & Sniff" room at the National Gallery of Art *Give your dear, departed Fido or Tabby a suitable resting place at the Arlington National Cemetery--bring your own shovel *If you miss your exit on the Beltway, don't worry. Remember, it's a circle, so just keep on going around, and before you know it, you'll be back at your desired exit! *Trinkets are awarded to anyone who can get the Secret Service agents guarding the President to laugh *Flashing floor lights in the Metro signal an oncoming earthquake. Run for your life! *Cheering is encouraged during oral arguments at the Supreme Court *For best results, crinkle up your dollar bills real good to "soften" them up before using the Metro card machines *To avoid blocking pedestrian traffic, press up real close to the person in front of you who is using the ATM *Going to the zoo? Don't forget to bring your swim trunks/suit for a refreshing dip in any of the zoo's conveniently located moats *Bring your clubs! Wednesday is ladies' day at Burning Tree From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 15 13:48:21 1997 From: To: , Subject: Re: Advice for tourists in DC Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:45:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Encoding: 25 TEXT Chris, you are very welcome. I actually got a nasty response from some anal-retent about it. He said it appeared in some local newspaper, and was the result of a humor contest. He was torqued because I "posted such things without full attribution." I had to virtually slap him around a little bit. There's only so much you can do when you get these things second hand. I guess I'm just glad that someone liked it. "Some folks are just looking for something to get their jockeys in a wad" - quoted from someone I don't remember right now Cheers, Horkster ---------- From: Christopher A. Meier To: Horstman, Dale R @ MAN Subject: Re: Advice for tourists in DC Date: Wednesday, January 15, 1997 12:39PM Hilarious! Thanks for the humor. chris From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 17 18:35:50 1997 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 3 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:23:36 -0500 To: DC-Cycles List From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Washington's moral mess Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:01 AM 1/15/97 -0500, you wrote: >Admittedly, I have not been much of an D.C. urban history buff, but I >have trouble believing the city could have been in MORE of a MORAL >mess in the past than it is currently. A brief survey of history will show that morals (sleeping around, criminal gov't, drugs, etc) have gone though peaks and hollows in many cultures. Seems to be on a cycle of several hundred years. (try 'a world lit only by fire' for some insight into the middle ages) rich From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 18 11:21:05 1997 From: AntietamMC@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 11:18:58 -0500 (EST) To: balt-cycles@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: FS: 1992 Honda CR500 motocrosser [Please excuse the X-posting...] A friend of mine is selling his racebike in case any of you might be interested. He has maintained his machine very well and is nearly 30yo. Take a look: For Sale 1992 Honda CR500 Factory Connection Suspension FMF pipe & silencer New Chain & Sprocket New Tires Pro-taper handlebars $2000 or best offer Must sell by 1/26/97 301.824.3145 Chris Thanks, Jeff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 20 21:52:26 1997 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 3 (32) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:39:37 -0500 To: DC-Cycles List From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: not really related Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Phil, your mail bounced so I'm posting the answer here. Sorry everybody. At 02:43 AM 1/18/97 -0500, Phil Kester wrote: >On Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:23:36 -0500 Rich and Leslie Sturges wrote: > >> Seems to be on a cycle of several hundred years. (try 'a world >> lit only by fire' for some insight into the middle ages) > >Interesting title. Who's the author? William Manchester. A little dry but pretty interesting. rich From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 22 14:58:27 1997 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:42:26 -0500 From: "Christopher A. Meier" Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Saturday Event Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit All, Remember the driving in DC thread? Well the saga contiunes..... I received an e-mail from one of our list regulars (Brian McCoy) and we discussed taking a riding tour of some of the cities finer points. I will be taking Brian for a ride through downtown including some of the monuments and parts of upper northwest on Saturday January 25th at 9am. Should be a good time for a run, slightly before the traffic picks up. If anyone else would like to join us, please e-mail me. Since this is a _CITY_ trip, I will not let the group get to more than four bikes. I personally would not feel safe in a group larger than that in the city. I don't expect that we will get a large following, but if we do get past four bikes, I will be happy to ask someone (with city driving experience) to lead a second group. (any volunteers?) I can develop an itinerary and directions that will allow us to travel in smaller safe groups, but stop at a few parks along the way where we can all catch up and chat. I believe Sat should have pretty warm weather, and due to a personal committment, I need to finish the ride at noon. So don't plan on an all day affair that will require lots of gear and planning. Come one, Come all....but realize that this _IS NOT_ a twisty riding, tire ripping tour. It will be a few bikes out to see the sites and experience what I believe to be the "better and more positive" aspects of city driving. Hope to see at least a few others, chris -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher A. Meier Computer Sciences Corporation Washington, DC "Nature is a language, can’t you read?" 1994 Suzuki RF900R -Smiths AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 22 16:25:23 1997 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:14:59 -0500 From: "Adams, Bill" Sender: "Adams, Bill" Organization: USIA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC Cycles) Subject: Re: Saturday Event MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 4.20B.6 MHS/SMF to SMTP Gateway Another interesting city tour is the all-alley challenge from Dupont circle to Friendship Heights. No streets allowed! Bill Adams 3D Artist/Animator '66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon: "Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 22 16:52:39 1997 From: "McLoone, William J." To: DC-Cycles List Subject: RE: Saturday Event Date: Wed, 22 Jan 97 16:46:00 EST Encoding: 26 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 >I received an e-mail from one of our list regulars (Brian McCoy) and we >discussed taking a riding tour of some of the cities finer points. I >will be taking Brian for a ride through downtown including some of the >monuments and parts of upper northwest on Saturday January 25th at 9am.=20 >If anyone else would like to join us, please e-mail me. >I will be happy to ask someone (with city driving >experience) to lead a second group. (any volunteers?) >Christopher A. Meier Well I guess I know how I'm going to exercise the KZ this weekend. I need to get its juices flowing and a half day ride sounds like just the ticket. Count me in, just tell me when and were to meet. I also have a bit of city driving and riding experience and would be willing to help lead if the group size becomes too big Bill (Moses) McLoone '82 Suzuki GS-450TXz (SOLD) '81 Yamaha XS-11H (SOLD) Silver Spring, MD USA '82 Kawasaki KZ-750E (Blizzard) 1-800-AMA-JOIN BK-MD I "Ride with Pride" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 22 16:58:02 1997 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:51:35 -0500 From: "Christopher A. Meier" Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Adams, Bill" CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Saturday Event Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sounds like you are the experienced person we need to lead the second group! :-) Currently we are at four bikes, and will probably gain a few in the next couple days. chris Adams, Bill wrote: > > Another interesting city tour is the all-alley challenge from Dupont > circle to Friendship Heights. > No streets allowed! > > Bill Adams > 3D Artist/Animator > '66 Land Rover S2A 109 Diesel Station Wagon: > "Practicing the ancient oriental art of ren-ching" -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher A. Meier Computer Sciences Corporation Washington, DC "Nature is a language, can’t you read?" 1994 Suzuki RF900R -Smiths AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 22 17:34:23 1997 From: "Gilley, Lester" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Saturday Event Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:26:08 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just wanted to say that a ride like this is a great example of why ChatterBox motorcycle to motorcycle's are great. There is no need to stop for instructions. You can easily check on group members to see if they made a light or other such nonsense. I'm not sure if this is a good idea but you can give historical perspecitves regarding roads, building, and sites as you pass them. Anyway, couldn't resist a good comment for bike to bike communicators. - Lester '94 CBR1000 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 23 10:16:44 1997 Date: Thu Jan 23 10:12:17 1997 X-Mailer: Panda-2.0e From: Brian McCoy To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: real quick like... Ok, Beautiful day.. as all you must know by now. I'm free.. and headding off to Annapolis.. anyone else free for a little exploration? Or how about just some ideas on places to hit? (roads?) Don't really want to take 50 out and back... so I'll probably get lost going.... so... anyone.. anyone... anyone.. Bueler? P.S. it's 10am, I'll check back in like 30 min... --- Brian McCoy http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/1319 '86 Honda VF500F - Scrappy bmccoy2@XXXXXX Working hard Today for those Dreams of Tomorrow.. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 23 11:10:04 1997 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:03:05 -0500 From: "Christopher A. Meier" Organization: Computer Sciences Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles CC: bmccoy2@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX, mehran.firouzbakht@XXXXXX, wjm1@XXXXXX, bergie@XXXXXX Subject: Saturday ride details... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit All, Details of the event.... Time: 9:00am Meet, 9:15am-9:30am depart, end approx at Noon. Date: Saturday January 25, 1997 Meeting Location: On the WEST side of the US Capitol by the reflecting pool. In the angled congressional parking spots on the North edge of the pool. (What better place to meet than in the shadow of the Capitol?) I will be the one on the Red RF900r looking for others on bikes :-) Attendees: All are welcome, regardless of style (cruiser, standard or sport) or brand. The cc: list of this e-mail are the people that are confirmed attendees at this point. Literature: I will photocopy a map for all and highlight the route. Route: This is a general route, I will entertain any feedback people have on it through Friday afternoon, when I will make the map copies. Also any recommendations on stopping points are welcome. i.e. what interests you all, monuments, restaurants, embassys, etc. Leave Capitol head across the mall and down Independence Ave. Cross 14th street and left on 15th, bear right towards 395, left onto Hain's Point. Take the full loop past the awakenings sculpture and back to Jefferson Memorial. Pass Jeff Mem and through West Potomac park, past FDR Memorial, past Lincoln Mem left onto Independence and up rock Creek Parkway, past Kennedy Center to Connecticut Ave. Up Conn past Zoo, left on McCabe or a major residential street near the National Cathedral to Wisconsin Ave. Left on Wisc, south toward Georgetown, left onto Mass Ave. Mass Ave down embassy row and into the Downtown area. Right on "M" street, through Georgetown and out canal road to Macarthur Blvd. Up MacArthur, make our way to Wyoming and up to American U and the NBC studios. At this point if people want we can zip up to Great Falls (Maryland side) or head back into the city and back down past the State Dept and straight down Constitution Ave, past the Vietnam Veteran's Memorial, past the mall and Musuems and back to the Capitol. Miscellaneous: When we first meet we'll discuss a few tips and try to gain some perspective on everyone's riding/city experience. I plan on riding at the lowest common denominator of experience. If the group has several levels, we can match up the two groups accordingly. In addition, we will have atleast one two-up group (Chris Norloff and SO), and I may bring my SO as well. As of now we have six bikes...Bill (since you volunteered) I would like you to lead a second group if that offer still stands (please let me know). I know that Chris Norloff has DC riding experience and would make a good sweeper for one of the groups, any one want to do the other? And last but not least...weather. I see the forcast calls for possible sleet tomorrow (Fri.), but it should be gone and clear by Sat. High temps in the upper 40s to low 50s, probably about 40 degrees at 9am. I plan on going if there is a "light rain", but not in bad weather. If the forecast changes and Sat am looks like it will be bad weather, I will send an e-mail late Friday afternoon, to confirm or cancel the trip. If you won't be e-mail accessible then, let me know your phone # and I can give you a call. This should be a nice comfortable ride... Hope to see you all there, chris -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christopher A. Meier Computer Sciences Corporation Washington, DC "Nature is a language, can’t you read?" 1994 Suzuki RF900R -Smiths AMA #470094 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 28 08:19:31 1997 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 8:17:05 EST X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: (John Kitzmiller) Subject: manuals for sale Harley Big Twins parts catalog 1961-71 (OEM) $10 Harley Panhead service manual 1948-57 (OEM) $10 Harley Twins 1965-74 (Chilton) $5 Honda CB500/750 1969-72 (Chilton) $5 Norton 750/850 1966-72 (Chilton) $5 TriumphTrident 1969-75 (Haynes) $5 If you're interested in any of these, I can be contacted at the above e-mail address or at 202-2305-3387 (work) or 703-750-3831 (home) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 30 01:16:05 1997 From: JD6201md@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:14:31 -0500 (EST) To: balt-cycles@XXXXXX, MFERRELL@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: F/S: CR250R Please excuse the cross-post. Well, the last one I posted for a friend, it sold pretty quick, so here goes another one! FOR SALE 1992 Honda CR250R Motocrosser FMF Pipe Bumpsticks Suspension O-ring Chain Renthal Sprockets Fast & very clean! Also includes extra pipe and tires $2200 Jim Minteer 717-597-0857 Greencastle, PA Thanks, - Jeff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 30 11:01:16 1997 X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 10:58:06 -0500 From: "David O'Neill" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, dc-cycles.cs@XXXXXX Cc: Alane_O'Neill@XXXXXX, jeffr@XXXXXX, mray@XXXXXX Subject: FS:'80 GS450E Black 12.5 K miles mag wheels cracked side cover pretty good paint good tires (some weather checking, but they're fairly new bridgestone BT-35 battlaxs) needs carb rebuild (I cleaned the carbs w/o replacing the gaskets, and the gas mileage went down) new battery (last year) good brakes good headlight (I replaced the incandescent w/H4 and aftermarket reflector pod) Has gear indicator lights (making it good for beginners) Been sitting in my garage w/o use for 11 months. Inspection in '96 (I think, maybe '95). Garaged in Alexandria, VA. $350.00/BO From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 30 23:14:43 1997 From: JD6201md@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:13:13 -0500 (EST) To: sllsinc@XXXXXX, 104756.351@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, FYGHTnFIRE@XXXXXX, rbosch@XXXXXX cc: MxHoop@XXXXXX, HOLLIE@XXXXXX, jstone@XXXXXX, RCampers2@XXXXXX, MFERRELL@XXXXXX Subject: Antietam MC Home Page.... In case you missed it last time or you got to see only the early version, here's our new Home Page on the Internet: http://members.aol.com/antietammc/index.html Check out Antietam's 1997 race schedule and other miscellaneous info. Who knows, I may even get fancy and post race results on it! -- Jeff