From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 1 03:30:31 2005 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=PkP4vzttVU8kK6cphHGJpbyUeb8ap64R9h35Mr+I3UyDPaUUElSfD0aajSZiBDBbv+VVy1YPI86ymhU8ye1os5Rrdm4RNHoJ8I1MWtBuR22TYi0rfFTrZ3uuPjXNQL04CliFP6zSa5iQjZgeCZ/eL4e6A84jUHUXkderAnad4Jo= ; Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 00:30:23 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Subject: Happy New Year To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Just got back from a %^** bar shift but great relatively warm ride home. Happy New Year to everyone and may '05 be better than any other year thus far. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Jan 1 18:33:46 2005 From: "David Lowenstein" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Ramp Recommendation Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 18:12:25 -0500 Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm definitely planning on using the ramp regularly (at least for the dirtbikes), so I'm going to go with a good quality ramp. These are the ones I'm currently looking at are: http://www.motorcycleramps.com/folding_bike_ramp.htm (Model MF-10014) http://www.discountramps.com/single_runner_ramps.htm (Model #65SP or #69) http://www.motorcycleramps.com/folding_ramp.htm http://www.joehauler.com/readyramp/readyramp.shtml (#33-0020) http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=542&R=542 The last one was recommended by a list member. Any feedback on any of the others would be welcomed as well. Thanks, Dave > If you're going to be loading on a regular basis, spend the money for a > decent aluminum arced or curved ladder ramp. The ease of use will pay > off in the long run. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 3 10:14:29 2005 From: "Jay Goddard" To: Subject: Motorcycle friendly trailer and/or Honda XR-250R Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 10:14:05 -0500 My buddy David needs to make some room, so he has a few things for sale. motorcycle friendly trailer and/or Honda XR-250R 1986 Honda XR-250R. It needs nothing, except to be ridden more. Mechanically strong and runs great (8 out of 10) Cosmetically it is a little rough, but you will not be afraid of hurting it. (6 out of 10) Since I got it I have: Fully rebuilt the front caliper Put on new pads/shoes front and rear Done a recent valve adjustment Installed a replacement shock Rebuilt both front fork legs (new oil and seals). Greased all bearings (head and suspension, etc) Completed a full carb rebuild. It comes with: Super trap exhaust Original tired shock (that may have more robust spring) Factory service manual Decent tires, chain and sprockets Aftermarket small back seat bag Pictures available by email Asking $1250 ********************** Heavy-Duty Utility Trailer For Sale (Motorcycle Friendly) 6'x8' deck with new 2"x10" pressure treated boards. All new stainless steel deck hardware. 6 large eyebolt tie-down points. 3 unmounted steel wheel chocks (you can decide what layout suits you best) Frame was recently cleaned and repainted. All new lights, wire and standard 4 wire harness/connector. Trailer tires on 12" rims (like new, still have nubbies on them). Sturdy suspension, (you'll never overload it). Could easily be setup for 2 street bikes or 3 dirt bikes. Clear Title, ready to transfer. Located in Friendship Heights, Washington DC, local delivery available. pictures at www.motorcycleleatherexchange.com/trailer.html Asking $650 I will deliver (50 miles from DC) the trailer with the XR on it for $1700 Contact David: 202.244.0376 bgsbnyzx11@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 3 12:37:34 2005 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BrcW8Ix2cG5l94ucJfCINVPo/HImafRqmwUcF9hUWD62sM9uO6YUf84qwFtK6xC0tMAWrJDjoZaO8RWGfQVMSvrQVsaZpQipccoXOBr6ooFsQg/goKT7SV1F3IL1Mc2wdRtYuszJazM3ziHNewRXTl/NOnoRYCNrvA9R16JdXUk= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:37:24 -0500 From: Aaron Maurer To: DC-Cycles Subject: Vento throttle cable A friend in DC with a Vento scooter needs some help to replace a throttle cable, and he's willing to pay for the help. Does anyone have any recommendations? Are you interested Garcia? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 3 20:41:05 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 20:40:50 EST Subject: Re: Vento throttle cable To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 1/3/2005 12:37:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, amaurer@XXXXXX writes: > A friend in DC with a Vento scooter needs some help to replace a > throttle cable, Cables can be made in a shop (used to make em all the time. wish I had the gear to make one for him.) Try an old shop, or at least a mom and pop, non dealer repair shop and see if they can make cables. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Jan 3 21:22:00 2005 Subject: RE: Vento throttle cable Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 21:21:55 -0500 From: "Jonathan W. Kalmes" To: A bicycle shop can probably fab the cable as well if he can take the old one in to them (reasonably cheaply if I recall correctly). I've had numerous custom cables created for my mountain bikes (and one for a Seca II). --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 4 09:45:53 2005 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:45:07 -0500 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Troutman Subject: DC Bike Show 1-14 - 16 http://wdc.motorcycleshows.com/imswdc/V41/index.cvn?id=10366&p_navID=129 The Cycle World bike show is back in town. Anyone interested in meeting downtown on the 15th for lunch and the show? We had a small assembly last year at the Hooters across the street from the convention center. Lines were LONG for tickets last year. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 4 10:29:05 2005 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:29:02 -0500 To: "dc Cycles" From: Troutman Subject: someone is using a spam filter Whoever is using the 0spam service, don't subscribe to mailing lists with these services. They send a message to the sender asking us to verify the message. If everyone used it, I would have to verify a couple of hundred times. Same with vacation messages - unsub or filter. DC Cycles messages arrive with the From line as the sender instead of the list. Moto content : the CW show is pretty good, but I enjoyed the Chantilly show much more. Mainly because we could do vendor rides there, but they don't do it in DC. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org Death is certain. Life is not. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 4 17:22:59 2005 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:22:41 EST Subject: On the subject of ramps...... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Has anyone ever tried or heard of people using this before? _http://www.motorcycleramps.com/motorcycle_caddy.htm_ (http://www.motorcycleramps.com/motorcycle_caddy.htm) Just curious as my traveling home to PA on the bike is now limited due to new dog ownership and I don't think a sidecar would look good on the R6. Scooter From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 4 18:19:27 2005 Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... From: lister lynch To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:20:07 -0500 I had never heard of it, but had the idea that I needed something like that. Made one myself. That was spring 1999. http://mplynch.com/xcountry/Intro_files/The_Magic_Bus.jpg That thing followed me 13,000 miles around the country. All you have to do is get good at popping the master link, and you are off and running in 5 minutes. Think I made it for about 15 bucks out of scrap from bins at Potomac Steel. Still have it in the back of the garage. Mike On Tue, 2005-01-04 at 17:22, ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > Has anyone ever tried or heard of people using this before? > > _http://www.motorcycleramps.com/motorcycle_caddy.htm_ > (http://www.motorcycleramps.com/motorcycle_caddy.htm) > > Just curious as my traveling home to PA on the bike is now limited due to > new dog ownership and I don't think a sidecar would look good on the R6. > > Scooter > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 4 20:54:28 2005 X-SpaceNet-Authentification: SMTP AUTH verified Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:54:18 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Chubb Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... Cc: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX X-Spam-Level: At 07:00 PM 1/4/2005, you wrote: >From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX > >Has anyone ever tried or heard of people using this before? > >_http://www.motorcycleramps.com/motorcycle_caddy.htm_ I have something that is 75% the same as that, just no crank to lift the front wheel. So, you have to have two people to lift the front wheel. You can have it for free if you want to come to my house in Falls Church and pick it up. I got it free with another bike and it has been gathering dust for about 5 years. It weighs about 30 lbs, it is one solid unit. I was keeping it in case I needed the bolts or steel for a project, but never got around to needing it. Anybody want it? Chris From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 4 21:32:08 2005 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 21:31:59 EST Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... To: cchubb@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Thanks for the offer but, you'd need to throw in a second person with it to help lift. :-) Scooter In a message dated 1/4/2005 8:54:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, cchubb@XXXXXX writes: At 07:00 PM 1/4/2005, you wrote: >From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX > >Has anyone ever tried or heard of people using this before? > >_http://www.motorcycleramps.com/motorcycle_caddy.htm_ I have something that is 75% the same as that, just no crank to lift the front wheel. So, you have to have two people to lift the front wheel. You can have it for free if you want to come to my house in Falls Church and pick it up. I got it free with another bike and it has been gathering dust for about 5 years. It weighs about 30 lbs, it is one solid unit. I was keeping it in case I needed the bolts or steel for a project, but never got around to needing it. Anybody want it? Chris From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 4 21:43:04 2005 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=nNwbzb0OMST77QDbdXeLLBwXTlN5mD2hd9zr3V+eR2f4REmriXgN4BxXyOQLe5sRpcNFfbz5Hj59g+e8yvf8ROqJEeoTpx+CKZ/bf8QT+7kuFIAbnYa9E7dE4pxfOp2HP6jbHCfYFfgALlIKnQluvqd3c5oszA+o26AFeNogOYQ= ; Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:42:46 -0800 (PST) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX, cchubb@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Scooter, Perhaps you didn't read your own subject line. It should be rather easy to build a small ramp for something like that. Just because this sounds like a fun challenge, if you get the free carrier, you're welcome to come to my place and I'll provide the material and tools and help you build a ramp so you can ride that R6 right up into the carrier. Then all you'd need to do is throw the little ramp in the trunk (or even better, fold up the little ramp before throwing it in the trunk) and go on your trip. Leon --- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > Thanks for the offer but, you'd need to throw in a > second person with it to > help lift. :-) > > Scooter > > In a message dated 1/4/2005 8:54:46 PM Eastern > Standard Time, > cchubb@XXXXXX writes: > At 07:00 PM 1/4/2005, you wrote: > > >From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX > > > >Has anyone ever tried or heard of people using > this before? > > > >_http://www.motorcycleramps.com/motorcycle_caddy.htm_ > > I have something that is 75% the same as that, just > no crank to lift the > front wheel. So, you have to have two people to > lift the front wheel. You > can have it for free if you want to come to my > house in Falls Church and > pick it up. I got it free with another bike and it > has been gathering dust > for about 5 years. It weighs about 30 lbs, it is > one solid unit. I was > keeping it in case I needed the bolts or steel for > a project, but never got > around to needing it. > > Anybody want it? > > Chris > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Jan 4 23:29:59 2005 X-Superb-Authentication: SMTP AUTH verified Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:29:49 -0500 To: Leon Begeman , ScooterFZR@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Chubb Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... X-Spam-Level: Yeah, I had thought of doing the same thing to make it easier to get the front wheel up into the holder. I don't have a second strong back either. 3 or 4 feet of wood or metal with a suitable bracket would do the trick. I thought about doing it with some C channel I had laying around, but then I used it to make an engine stand and never got around to fitting it to the front wheel holder. One note: I hear that it is best to have this thing as close to the ground as feasible. So, if you have a big Ram truck with the hitch receiver 2 feet from the ground it wont work as well as something lower. The offer still stands. Chris At 09:42 PM 1/4/2005, Leon Begeman wrote: >Scooter, >Perhaps you didn't read your own subject line. It >should be rather easy to build a small ramp for >something like that. Just because this sounds like a >fun challenge, if you get the free carrier, you're >welcome to come to my place and I'll provide the >material and tools and help you build a ramp so you >can ride that R6 right up into the carrier. Then all >you'd need to do is throw the little ramp in the trunk >(or even better, fold up the little ramp before >throwing it in the trunk) and go on your trip. > >Leon >--- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > > > Thanks for the offer but, you'd need to throw in a > > second person with it to > > help lift. :-) > > > > Scooter > > > > In a message dated 1/4/2005 8:54:46 PM Eastern > > Standard Time, > > cchubb@XXXXXX writes: > > At 07:00 PM 1/4/2005, you wrote: > > > > >From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX > > > > > >Has anyone ever tried or heard of people using > > this before? > > > > > > >_http://www.motorcycleramps.com/motorcycle_caddy.htm_ > > > > I have something that is 75% the same as that, just > > no crank to lift the > > front wheel. So, you have to have two people to > > lift the front wheel. You > > can have it for free if you want to come to my > > house in Falls Church and > > pick it up. I got it free with another bike and it > > has been gathering dust > > for about 5 years. It weighs about 30 lbs, it is > > one solid unit. I was > > keeping it in case I needed the bolts or steel for > > a project, but never got > > around to needing it. > > > > Anybody want it? > > > > Chris > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 07:35:44 2005 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=JR0//aiO9Y5WWqhdjItmlJ2ffvw3PVIlHMyBUXI79GATD2/MxqXabUtQiKtmGY2S217o6dvamxF3X0sesf3ugmO+sb+gwzfn0xXYvd2UMDYEhg3Co/LRkDJQ4Tn9x6Zk6joeb4KjJeA9EIaqyx9AeHJYQrkilapF+ZShKml+Xzg= ; Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 04:35:40 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Scooter, personally I wouldn't use one of these. With the rear wheel on the ground you will get flat-spotted rear tire and wear and tear on your drive train (chain and sprockets). Why not spring for a small folding trailer or just rent when you need it? Glenn --- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > Has anyone ever tried or heard of people using this > before? > > _http://www.motorcycleramps.com/motorcycle_caddy.htm_ > > (http://www.motorcycleramps.com/motorcycle_caddy.htm) > > > Just curious as my traveling home to PA on the bike > is now limited due to > new dog ownership and I don't think a sidecar would > look good on the R6. > > Scooter > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 10:21:32 2005 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:21:12 EST Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX So then, the next question would be how stable is something like this for towing the bike? I might take both of you up on the offer if I don't come up with something else. Don't give it away just yet Chris. Weekend project Leon? I was thinking about getting one of these but, need to check my hitch type and tongue weight to make sure it will hold. _http://www.motorcycleramps.com/hitch_motorcycle_carrier.htm_ (http://www.motorcycleramps.com/hitch_motorcycle_carrier.htm) Scooter In a message dated 1/4/2005 9:43:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, mriderleon@XXXXXX writes: Scooter, Perhaps you didn't read your own subject line. It should be rather easy to build a small ramp for something like that. Just because this sounds like a fun challenge, if you get the free carrier, you're welcome to come to my place and I'll provide the material and tools and help you build a ramp so you can ride that R6 right up into the carrier. Then all you'd need to do is throw the little ramp in the trunk (or even better, fold up the little ramp before throwing it in the trunk) and go on your trip. Leon --- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > Thanks for the offer but, you'd need to throw in a > second person with it to > help lift. :-) > > Scooter > > In a message dated 1/4/2005 8:54:46 PM Eastern > Standard Time, > cchubb@XXXXXX writes: > At 07:00 PM 1/4/2005, you wrote: > > >From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX > > > >Has anyone ever tried or heard of people using > this before? > > > >_http://www.motorcycleramps.com/motorcycle_caddy.htm_ > > I have something that is 75% the same as that, just > no crank to lift the > front wheel. So, you have to have two people to > lift the front wheel. You > can have it for free if you want to come to my > house in Falls Church and > pick it up. I got it free with another bike and it > has been gathering dust > for about 5 years. It weighs about 30 lbs, it is > one solid unit. I was > keeping it in case I needed the bolts or steel for > a project, but never got > around to needing it. > > Anybody want it? > > Chris From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 10:29:50 2005 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:49:26 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen To: Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > _http://www.motorcycleramps.com/hitch_motorcycle_carrier.htm_ > (http://www.motorcycleramps.com/hitch_motorcycle_carrier.htm) I posted something like that on the 'Busa board. www.mototote.com was the URL of the one I found online. A handful of guy with 'Busas had hauled using that type of carrier, without any trouble. One of them back and forth across the country. -- Wayne From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 10:34:22 2005 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:34:09 EST Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX No place really to store even a small folding trailer. Apartment living and an underground parking garage can do that to you. :-) Even though we have assigned parking spaces, with the Blazer I don't have much room to put anything at the front of the space without the ass end hanging out. The bike is in a bike spot so, no space there either. I figured if I got one of these I could just throw it in the back of the Blazer when not in use. ;-) Renting would be ok but, I'm pretty sure I'm not wired for all the little extras required for a trailer. Plus, I've heard that a different places have stopped renting bike trailers. I was thinking about one of these but, need to check my hitch type and tongue weight before getting one. _http://www.motorcycleramps.com/hitch_motorcycle_carrier.htm_ (http://www.motorcycleramps.com/hitch_motorcycle_carrier.htm) Scooter In a message dated 1/5/2005 7:35:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, glenn_dysart@XXXXXX writes: Scooter, personally I wouldn't use one of these. With the rear wheel on the ground you will get flat-spotted rear tire and wear and tear on your drive train (chain and sprockets). Why not spring for a small folding trailer or just rent when you need it? Glenn From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 10:34:30 2005 Subject: Interesting clip Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:34:28 -0500 From: "Julian Halton" To: http://www.linesthemovie.com/video/LINES_EP2_Trailer.wmv From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 10:38:41 2005 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:38:17 EST Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX The Moto Tote one is also listed on this site for $100 cheaper. Definitely have to do some investigating since a Busa is heavier than my R6. Scooter In a message dated 1/5/2005 10:30:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, wayne@XXXXXX writes: > _http://www.motorcycleramps.com/hitch_motorcycle_carrier.htm_ > (http://www.motorcycleramps.com/hitch_motorcycle_carrier.htm) I posted something like that on the 'Busa board. www.mototote.com was the URL of the one I found online. A handful of guy with 'Busas had hauled using that type of carrier, without any trouble. One of them back and forth across the country. -- Wayne From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 10:42:10 2005 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=W9XokPl9WxcJA31zir+1qAj96RkZ9yA5lmEKjffmx18ML9zx18IFkYABAeNOwd7wD9mN0z0+wiIOdFHj+9Lrr6taC2+Uxx5X9YNdiOQdwzz+GC1LNs6hDIbRQupnAOajP754lR1QY9XHVQXTAYTC9qO+B5UmPcxZIuGqKdVKk7Y= ; Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 07:41:52 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX If you've got a class 3 hitch you can go up to 500 lbs. How big is the opening for your hitch insert? You'll need the 2" opening. The smaller 1" openings are class 1 and 2 and have a smaller tongue weight. Glenn --- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > > I was thinking about one of these but, need to check > my hitch type and > tongue weight before getting one. > _http://www.motorcycleramps.com/hitch_motorcycle_carrier.htm_ > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 10:47:52 2005 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:07:28 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen To: Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > The Moto Tote one is also listed on this site for $100 cheaper. Definitely > have to do some investigating since a Busa is heavier than my R6. Depending on aftermarket goodies, 525-550lbs. http://www.hayabusa.org/iB_html/uploads/post-6-20010-4_20_001.JPG http://www.hayabusa.org/iB_html/uploads/post-6-20349-4_20_002.JPG http://www.hayabusa.org/iB_html/uploads/post-6-20626-4_20_003.JPG http://www.hayabusa.org/iB_html/uploads/post-6-49275-4_20_005.jpg And another, similar product... http://www.joehauler.com/graphics/products/camloc/rightbigpict.jpg And finally, if all else fails, get a beater convertible... http://www.hodgetransport.com/images/strappedbike.jpg :-) -- Wayne From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 11:07:03 2005 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=e9SR/7Iqaw028rF9F6YU9cagsBUpOCvPQM/f0bSUpn2c+I3DkSr64JcetVe/FAX+oe1E530d/h47A/H4LOsfQNjx1EColK/bmiMcpJqoxH28Xl4ouO4T2MyqCJbPPsTLcSSUeELqKij+EQmyuFjnMtw+D9T4nVrucMAHBMPkJM0= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:06:56 -0500 From: Robert To: Julian Halton Subject: Re: Interesting clip Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Excellent road, brings back memories of coming around some of those curves to find cars on my side of the yellow lines... ;-) Gorgeous scenery, too, we pulled off several times just to look around and take pictures. Robert Verde On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:34:28 -0500, Julian Halton wrote: > > > http://www.linesthemovie.com/video/LINES_EP2_Trailer.wmv > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 11:11:36 2005 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:07:32 -0500 To: Glenn Dysart , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... At 04:35 AM 1/5/05 -0800, Glenn Dysart wrote: >Scooter, personally I wouldn't use one of these. With >the rear wheel on the ground you will get flat-spotted >rear tire and wear and tear on your drive train (chain >and sprockets). Why not spring for a small folding >trailer or just rent when you need it? I'd also be concerned about wear and tear on the steering head. The bearings there are designed to support and control the forks, not tow the bike. For a light bike and short trips it might be ok, but I don't think I'd want to tow my bike that way. If your bike is big enough, the "hitch weight" may be an issue too...though I doubt an R6 would be a problem except for a Class 1 hitch. The "Trailer in a bag" would be preferable IMO: http://www.trailerinabag.com/ -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 12:49:24 2005 From: To: "Mike B." , Glenn Dysart , Subject: Re: Re: On the subject of ramps...... Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 12:49:16 -0500 I thought the trailer in a bag was a cool idea until I found out how much they cost. -aki > > From: "Mike B." > Date: 2005/01/05 Wed AM 11:07:32 EST > To: Glenn Dysart , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... > > At 04:35 AM 1/5/05 -0800, Glenn Dysart wrote: > >Scooter, personally I wouldn't use one of these. With > >the rear wheel on the ground you will get flat-spotted > >rear tire and wear and tear on your drive train (chain > >and sprockets). Why not spring for a small folding > >trailer or just rent when you need it? > > I'd also be concerned about wear and tear on the steering head. The > bearings there are designed to support and control the forks, not tow the > bike. For a light bike and short trips it might be ok, but I don't think > I'd want to tow my bike that way. If your bike is big enough, the "hitch > weight" may be an issue too...though I doubt an R6 would be a problem > except for a Class 1 hitch. > > The "Trailer in a bag" would be preferable IMO: > > http://www.trailerinabag.com/ > > > > -- > -- Mike B. > > '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) > > Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes > is better. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 13:06:17 2005 From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: On the subject of ramps...... Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 13:05:30 -0500 How much are they, Aki? I couldn't find a price on the website. (http://www.trailerinabag.com/main.html) Perry >From: >To: "Mike B." , Glenn Dysart , > >Subject: Re: Re: On the subject of ramps...... >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 12:49:16 -0500 > >I thought the trailer in a bag was a cool idea until >I found out how much they cost. > >-aki > > > > > From: "Mike B." > > Date: 2005/01/05 Wed AM 11:07:32 EST > > To: Glenn Dysart , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... > > > > At 04:35 AM 1/5/05 -0800, Glenn Dysart wrote: > > >Scooter, personally I wouldn't use one of these. With > > >the rear wheel on the ground you will get flat-spotted > > >rear tire and wear and tear on your drive train (chain > > >and sprockets). Why not spring for a small folding > > >trailer or just rent when you need it? > > > > I'd also be concerned about wear and tear on the steering head. The > > bearings there are designed to support and control the forks, not tow >the > > bike. For a light bike and short trips it might be ok, but I don't >think > > I'd want to tow my bike that way. If your bike is big enough, the >"hitch > > weight" may be an issue too...though I doubt an R6 would be a problem > > except for a Class 1 hitch. > > > > The "Trailer in a bag" would be preferable IMO: > > > > http://www.trailerinabag.com/ > > > > > > > > -- > > -- Mike B. > > > > '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley >folks) > > > > Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's >mistakes > > is better. > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 13:10:18 2005 From: To: Subject: Re: Re: On the subject of ramps...... Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:10:03 -0500 A cool grand. I found out when I searched other sites and finally found some places that actually had the price listed. I'll see if I can dig up a site that has the price and post the link. -aki > > From: "Perry Coleman" > Date: 2005/01/05 Wed PM 01:05:30 EST > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Re: On the subject of ramps...... > > How much are they, Aki? I couldn't find a price on the website. > (http://www.trailerinabag.com/main.html) > > Perry > > >From: > >To: "Mike B." , Glenn Dysart , > > > >Subject: Re: Re: On the subject of ramps...... > >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 12:49:16 -0500 > > > >I thought the trailer in a bag was a cool idea until > >I found out how much they cost. > > > >-aki > > > > > > > > From: "Mike B." > > > Date: 2005/01/05 Wed AM 11:07:32 EST > > > To: Glenn Dysart , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... > > > > > > At 04:35 AM 1/5/05 -0800, Glenn Dysart wrote: > > > >Scooter, personally I wouldn't use one of these. With > > > >the rear wheel on the ground you will get flat-spotted > > > >rear tire and wear and tear on your drive train (chain > > > >and sprockets). Why not spring for a small folding > > > >trailer or just rent when you need it? > > > > > > I'd also be concerned about wear and tear on the steering head. The > > > bearings there are designed to support and control the forks, not tow > >the > > > bike. For a light bike and short trips it might be ok, but I don't > >think > > > I'd want to tow my bike that way. If your bike is big enough, the > >"hitch > > > weight" may be an issue too...though I doubt an R6 would be a problem > > > except for a Class 1 hitch. > > > > > > The "Trailer in a bag" would be preferable IMO: > > > > > > http://www.trailerinabag.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -- Mike B. > > > > > > '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley > >folks) > > > > > > Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's > >mistakes > > > is better. > > > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 13:13:28 2005 From: To: Subject: Re: Re: On the subject of ramps...... Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:13:20 -0500 here's a link with pricing: http://www.towandstow.com/order.html -aki > > From: "Perry Coleman" > Date: 2005/01/05 Wed PM 01:05:30 EST > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Re: On the subject of ramps...... > > How much are they, Aki? I couldn't find a price on the website. > (http://www.trailerinabag.com/main.html) > > Perry > > >From: > >To: "Mike B." , Glenn Dysart , > > > >Subject: Re: Re: On the subject of ramps...... > >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 12:49:16 -0500 > > > >I thought the trailer in a bag was a cool idea until > >I found out how much they cost. > > > >-aki > > > > > > > > From: "Mike B." > > > Date: 2005/01/05 Wed AM 11:07:32 EST > > > To: Glenn Dysart , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > Subject: Re: On the subject of ramps...... > > > > > > At 04:35 AM 1/5/05 -0800, Glenn Dysart wrote: > > > >Scooter, personally I wouldn't use one of these. With > > > >the rear wheel on the ground you will get flat-spotted > > > >rear tire and wear and tear on your drive train (chain > > > >and sprockets). Why not spring for a small folding > > > >trailer or just rent when you need it? > > > > > > I'd also be concerned about wear and tear on the steering head. The > > > bearings there are designed to support and control the forks, not tow > >the > > > bike. For a light bike and short trips it might be ok, but I don't > >think > > > I'd want to tow my bike that way. If your bike is big enough, the > >"hitch > > > weight" may be an issue too...though I doubt an R6 would be a problem > > > except for a Class 1 hitch. > > > > > > The "Trailer in a bag" would be preferable IMO: > > > > > > http://www.trailerinabag.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -- Mike B. > > > > > > '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley > >folks) > > > > > > Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's > >mistakes > > > is better. > > > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 13:37:19 2005 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 13:36:39 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: Re: On the subject of ramps...... At 12:49 PM 1/5/05 -0500, adamme1@XXXXXX wrote: >I thought the trailer in a bag was a cool idea until >I found out how much they cost. Yeah, about half what a new Kendon trailer costs... ;-) Of course, given the relatively small amount of material involved, and what appears to be fairly simple construction, one does wonder why they are so pricey. I'm guessing it's the lack of competition in that particular market. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 13:43:34 2005 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:43:31 -0500 From: stephen@XXXXXX To: adamme1@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Trailer in a bag (Was ramps) X-Sent-Via: Mitel Networks SME Server That thing doesn't have any suspension! I'd be really surprised if it survived a day of driving around DC with a Harley on it. I imagine NYC would pose the same problems. Stephen Quoting adamme1@XXXXXX: > here's a link with pricing: > > http://www.towandstow.com/order.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 15:09:54 2005 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=TNjVfZRsNieOXqZhOqA4bCEyt1RbXr+0hheP9WsBlxr3G1CG2J7dp6TFUN6PmUTekbyysIbVOttL31x1SORIWuLjItZbS58vD4uxrwjG0eD2VKZvv8SfSdMXIZmdtiRO0hTie+iSCeGiDKLjEEsl4OaDPJeldPEvCo7xSJwMsmI= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 15:09:43 -0500 From: Robert To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Yamaha FZR400 parts? I'm looking for a fuel petcock assembly for a 1988 Yamaha FZR400. The shop it had been ordered from says that it is back-ordered from Yamaha, and they have no date for expected delivery. Anyone have any suggestions for this sort of part? I have a part number (1WG-24500-00-00) although I'm not exactly sure it's the correct one, and before I make the rounds of the online sites I've bookmarked, I thought I'd see if anyone had any suggestions for a good retailer or alternate source. Thanks for all replies! Robert Verde From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 15:50:11 2005 From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Motorcycle calendar swap anyone? Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:49:58 -0500 I was given a Harley wall calendar as a gift and would like to swap it for a sport bike one if anybody wants to trade, or would like to buy it. Otherwise I'll try to pawn it off at the bike show next weekend. (Yes, it's officially licensed, 16 month, 2005, still in the plastic, David Blattel, $14.99 one) DISCLAIMER: This is not intended as the start of a Harley bashing thread. I just don't care to look at pictures of them for the rest of the year. ;) Thanks. Rob '98 VFR800 (Not a Harley) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 17:02:47 2005 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: RE: Trailer in a bag (Was ramps) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:03:21 -0500 I have one. It's quite sturdy. Haul my GSX-R1000 on it just fine. Yes, pricey. But in you have an HOA that won't let you have a trailer outside...it's nice to disassemble and toss in the building. Not to mention if I ever broke down, the wife could have someone toss it in the trunk of the accord, and I could get home. You can even use a class I for this one. I looked at the other options...the hitch carriers, and they looked a little weak. One guy I talked to said he bent his the first time he was out. Gary -----Original Message----- From: stephen@XXXXXX [mailto:stephen@XXXXXX] To: adamme1@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Trailer in a bag (Was ramps) That thing doesn't have any suspension! I'd be really surprised if it survived a day of driving around DC with a Harley on it. I imagine NYC would pose the same problems. Stephen Quoting adamme1@XXXXXX: > here's a link with pricing: > > http://www.towandstow.com/order.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 18:50:50 2005 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:10:23 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen To: Subject: DMTA I hope nobody here has a pending order! http://www.discountmotorcycletire.com/ -- Wayne From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 19:26:21 2005 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=WyJf0URa+aMyxDsBuoE3uUfDX525l2C2JseWMxLB69Q+uk+bQDEfQXgOd2arbF6f1R2yeHomK+uXDlHX/wKO6fhFAUlpbCu5TqblU4oXPD187kZr6VFQOwT0gZDvSFE5oPBC9HUw0Kh8glZxnWZW0G1ZW+gfU1oPf0Xl4t1zD40= ; Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:26:13 -0800 (PST) From: Isaac Blanck Subject: face shield for half face helmet To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I have a half-face Shoei helmet that I'd like to buy a face shield for. However, I'd like it to be a half-face face shield, ie, one that comes down roughly to my nose, but doesn't extend beyond that (still need to get my protein on country rides). I used to own a half-face Harley helmet, and they had just such a face shield. However, the holes on the Harley face shield don't align with the snaps on my Shoei helmet. Coleman Power Sports in Falls Church doesn't have any, and had never seen anything as small as the Harley face shield. Does anyone know where I can get, or even order, one of these? jib __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 20:27:28 2005 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 20:28:53 -0500 From: Laura Roach To: Robert CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Yamaha FZR400 parts? Robert wrote: >I'm looking for a fuel petcock assembly for a 1988 Yamaha FZR400. The >shop it had been ordered from says that it is back-ordered from >Yamaha, and they have no date for expected delivery. > >Anyone have any suggestions for this sort of part? I have a part >number (1WG-24500-00-00) although I'm not exactly sure it's the >correct one, and before I make the rounds of the online sites I've >bookmarked, I thought I'd see if anyone had any suggestions for a good >retailer or alternate source. > >Thanks for all replies! > >Robert Verde > > > > Robert, we have crates and crates and crates of FZR400 parts in our shop, considering we specialize in them. :) Brian can check for one for you tomorrow. Why are you looking for a new one (is it leaking???), which if that's the case, you just need the gasket. Here's our site www.speedwerks.com. Email or give Roach a call tomorrow and he'll check to see if we have one. :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 21:07:14 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: DMTA Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 21:06:37 -0500 I got my new helmet from them this past spring. Best price I could find, came quickly. Sorry to hear that. >From: Wayne Edelen >To: >Subject: DMTA >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:10:23 -0500 (EST) > >I hope nobody here has a pending order! > >http://www.discountmotorcycletire.com/ > >-- Wayne > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 21:45:38 2005 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:45:22 EST Subject: Hauling a bike - Part two :-) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX OK all you mechanically inclined people, can someone help clear this up for me. I'm now looking at getting one of those Moto Tote carriers and it says you need a Class III or higher hitch with a tongue weight high enough to carry the weight of the bike and the carrier. Checking the Blazer, this is what I come up with. The actual hitch has a label on it that doesn't give what class it is. It simply says that if it's a weight carrying hitch, you can tow a 2000 pound trailer and the tongue weight is 200 pounds. If it is a weight distribution hitch, you can tow a 6000 pound trailer and the tongue weight is 750 pounds. Then it says that these figures may not be the actual figures for your vehicle and to check the owners manual. The manual doesn't say which type of hitch it is but, it has a chart with trailer weight limits on it for my make, model and year. However, they are based on the width of the trailer axle. For the narrowest axle width it lists a max of 4000 pounds for the trailer. For the widest width, it lists 5500 pounds for the trailer. By these figures, I am assuming that I have a Class III weight carrying hitch and that the maximum tongue weight (10 percent of the trailer weight) would be 550 pounds. If this is the case then my R6 (415 pounds with all fluids) plus the carrier (90 pounds) should be safe at 505 pounds plus the weight of the straps. Does this make sense to anyone? Am I figuring this out right? Wayne, can you ask someone on the Busa list with one of these what class hitch they have? Vehicle? Tongue weight? etc. for me. Scooter From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jan 5 23:41:03 2005 From: "Stephen" To: , Subject: RE: Hauling a bike - Part two :-) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 23:39:53 -0500 http://www.motorcycledaily.com/26may04_mototote.htm "After using the Mototote nearly every weekend for 2 months, I was not happy with its performance. The bolts holding the carrier together allow too much play, which causes the carrier to be unstable ... Overall, the Mototote M3 was a big disappointment." > -----Original Message----- > From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX [mailto:ScooterFZR@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:45 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Hauling a bike - Part two :-) > > > OK all you mechanically inclined people, can someone help clear > this up for > me. I'm now looking at getting one of those Moto Tote carriers From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 6 01:39:06 2005 From: Daniel To: stephen@XXXXXX Cc: adamme1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Trailer in a bag (Was ramps) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 01:38:50 -0500 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- and i'm sure the small wheels would love the potholes too... On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:43:31 -0500, stephen@XXXXXX wrote: >That thing doesn't have any suspension! I'd be really surprised if it survived >a day of driving around DC with a Harley on it. I imagine NYC would pose the >same problems. > >Stephen > > >Quoting adamme1@XXXXXX: > >> here's a link with pricing: >> >> http://www.towandstow.com/order.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 6 01:53:51 2005 From: Daniel To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: trailers - share? Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 01:53:37 -0500 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Anyone on the list thought about doing a shared trailer ownership thing, like the tire changer? Seems like it might be a good idea if all share owners used it rarely or occasionally. Scooter how often would you use the trailer and what general area range is convenient for you? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 6 08:22:47 2005 From: "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Moto accident on Monday Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 08:22:37 -0500 A good friend and fellow rider Brian Yun (sp?)was on a fellow rider was involved in a accident on Monday. He was sent to shock trauma with broken wrists and a broken pelvis. It happened at 650 and 108 in Ashton a driver made a turn right in front of him. I saw him on Monday night and he was in a lot of pain but otherwise in good spirits. Good thing was that the accident was captured on film by the security cameras and the cops gave the driver of the car a ticket and took a copy of the video. -----Original Message----- From: rich hall [mailto:richallmc@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: DMTA I got my new helmet from them this past spring. Best price I could find, came quickly. Sorry to hear that. >From: Wayne Edelen >To: >Subject: DMTA >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:10:23 -0500 (EST) > >I hope nobody here has a pending order! > >http://www.discountmotorcycletire.com/ > >-- Wayne > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 6 09:13:14 2005 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 09:13:01 EST Subject: Re: trailers - share? To: daniel.dc@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX I was mainly looking at something to go home to PA every once in a while during the summer with the bike. I just got a dog in October and have no way of getting him and the bike up there. I was planning on taking two weeks off in August to go home but would love to have the bike up there with me. Living in an apartment doesn't allow me any room to store a trailer but, I figured a Moto Tote would be small enough to store in front of my car in the garage. For those that don't know, I live in downtown DC. Driving to pick up a trailer isn't a problem for me. Scooter In a message dated 1/6/2005 1:53:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, daniel.dc@XXXXXX writes: Anyone on the list thought about doing a shared trailer ownership thing, like the tire changer? Seems like it might be a good idea if all share owners used it rarely or occasionally. Scooter how often would you use the trailer and what general area range is convenient for you? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 6 10:12:30 2005 From: Daniel To: "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Moto accident on Monday Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 10:12:09 -0500 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Ouch that sucks. On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 08:22:37 -0500 , "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" wrote: >A good friend and fellow rider Brian Yun (sp?)was on a fellow rider was >involved in a accident on Monday. He was sent to shock trauma with broken >wrists and a broken pelvis. It happened at 650 and 108 in Ashton a driver >made a turn right in front of him. I saw him on Monday night and he was in a >lot of pain but otherwise in good spirits. Good thing was that the accident >was captured on film by the security cameras and the cops gave the driver of >the car a ticket and took a copy of the video. > >-----Original Message----- >From: rich hall [mailto:richallmc@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:07 PM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: DMTA > >I got my new helmet from them this past spring. Best price I could find, >came quickly. Sorry to hear that. > >>From: Wayne Edelen >>To: >>Subject: DMTA >>Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:10:23 -0500 (EST) >> >>I hope nobody here has a pending order! >> >>http://www.discountmotorcycletire.com/ >> >>-- Wayne >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 6 10:21:05 2005 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=ca8LAkGC1diImSqltwIl3kKbdKpxO6LAOxKJvuxDrqQ1c/SndnZ8+hQtNeOtBNqLk5qf0TVna5+Rh4tguYirUYXWvJuFZqvTHko+3Yt0DESHaaLqiptMsGSvWHOT4PByEwTRCQgCjisCLs09OjXEGVRwoRk+Geda6Nq0vDWageU= ; Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 07:21:02 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: trailers - share? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX You could always try something like this: http://home.earthlink.net/~dixon4403/lavroc_grp_03.jpg --- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > I was mainly looking at something to go home to PA > every once in a while > during the summer with the bike. I just got a dog > in October and have no way of > getting him and the bike up there. I was planning > on taking two weeks off > in August to go home but would love to have the bike > up there with me. Living > in an apartment doesn't allow me any room to store a > trailer but, I figured > a Moto Tote would be small enough to store in front > of my car in the garage. > For those that don't know, I live in downtown DC. > Driving to pick up a > trailer isn't a problem for me. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 6 14:52:39 2005 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:52:26 EST Subject: Re: trailers - share? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Hmmmmmm........R6, dog, saddle bags and tailbag. Somehow I don't think it'll work. Thanks anyway though. lol Scooter In a message dated 1/6/2005 10:21:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, glenn_dysart@XXXXXX writes: You could always try something like this: http://home.earthlink.net/~dixon4403/lavroc_grp_03.jpg --- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > I was mainly looking at something to go home to PA > every once in a while > during the summer with the bike. I just got a dog > in October and have no way of > getting him and the bike up there. I was planning > on taking two weeks off > in August to go home but would love to have the bike > up there with me. Living > in an apartment doesn't allow me any room to store a > trailer but, I figured > a Moto Tote would be small enough to store in front > of my car in the garage. > For those that don't know, I live in downtown DC. > Driving to pick up a > trailer isn't a problem for me. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 6 17:42:05 2005 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mgrN9BYG7PTiEY15Ppydj4F+pYvAU1By/iewv2l96U43DlnWGU0NDPt0fGJKyykxFMQ8v2UrGaJFnKEiqTNfuAuY6myg4XAJs7GVSbyLfZ10Y0TpCHPQhBRbGSoK5GP4k/H4wsNrD923LichEH0RLoOY9GoLN8b07wJuwWyd714= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 17:42:02 -0500 From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, please!) :) Over 95% of Harleys made are still on the road.... ....the other 5% actually made it home. now here are some other jokes about the jokes. Q. What do you call a group of Harley Owners with a collective IQ of 120? A. Sturgis ! Q. Why do Harley owners have tassels on their handlebars and clothing? A. To be able to tell if they're moving or not ! Q. How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog? A. They both like to ride in the back of utes. Q. What is the difference between a Harley Davidson and an old dog? A. The dog can get in the back of the ute by itself. Q. How is a Harley Davidson like a Porcupine? A. Both have pricks on their back. Q. How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog? A. If you leave them alone long enough, they'll both mark their territory Q. What do you get when you have 32 Harley owners in the same room? A. A full set of teeth. Q. What do you have when you put 10,000 Harley Davidsons on the bottom of the ocean? A. A good start. Q. Did you hear that Harley and the makers of Viagra are teaming up for a new officially licensed and endorsed version of the wonder pill to be available over the counter without a prescription at dealerships across the country? A. It's called Buyagra and the more you spend, the harder you get. Q. Why do harley riders never ride faster than 80mp/h? A. Any faster and they can't see where the parts fell off. Q. Why do harley riders chrome all their parts? A. It makes them easier to spot on the side of the road. Q. How do you know that the toothbrush was invented in Milwaukee? A. If it had been invented anywhere else, it would have been called the 'teeth brush' Q. What is the easiest and least expensive method of making your Harley go faster? A. Unhitch the plough! Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 6 19:32:18 2005 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:32:27 -0500 To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) At 05:42 PM 1/6/05 -0500, Sean Jordan wrote: >now here are some other jokes about the jokes. Not a bad set, but jealousy is so last week, isn't it? There's nothing really wrong with Sport bikes but I suspect they might sell better if they came in adult sizes and didn't whine almost as much as their wanna-be racer owners. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Jan 6 22:03:13 2005 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:02:42 -0500 Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) From: Randy Moran To: DC Cycles > At 05:42 PM 1/6/05 -0500, Sean Jordan wrote: > >> now here are some other jokes about the jokes. To which Mike B. replied: > Not a bad set, but jealousy is so last week, isn't it? > > There's nothing really wrong with Sport bikes but I suspect they might > sell > better if they came in adult sizes and didn't whine almost as much as > their > wanna-be racer owners. Mine doesn't whine, actually. It's a big V-twin that sounds something like your Harley would if it ran correctly. Oh. You mean it's supposed to sound like that? Wow... RPM From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 00:19:54 2005 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 00:20:07 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) At 10:02 PM 1/6/05 -0500, Randy Moran wrote: >Mine doesn't whine, actually. It's a big V-twin that sounds something >like your Harley would if it ran correctly. Runs just fine. Starts up every time, and carries me and a friend with no complaints or signs of strain. Even gets over 40 mpg unless I spend a lot of time in slow traffic. How does the average sport bike cope with, say, 450 or so lbs loaded on it? >You mean it's supposed to sound like that? Yep! Apparently it's a really popular sound too, given the sales figures and number of imitators. >Wow... Yeah, a lot of people have that reaction... -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 00:35:45 2005 From: Daniel To: Glenn Dysart Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: trailers - share? Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 00:35:28 -0500 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- That's pretty awsome. There's a guy in DC who used to always ride his dog on the seat/tank. The dog loved it as you would imagine. The dog would run and jump up on the bike and always want to go along. A cop siad the dog needed to wear a helmet or something to him once LOL. (maybe it was a ticket i can't remember) where can you buy a dog helmet? also he got into an accident. the dog got hurt but survived and still loves to ride! The guy got a broken leg. Both are long healed now though.. so it's still a happy story :) On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 07:21:02 -0800 (PST), Glenn Dysart wrote: >You could always try something like this: > >http://home.earthlink.net/~dixon4403/lavroc_grp_03.jpg > > >--- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > >> I was mainly looking at something to go home to PA >> every once in a while >> during the summer with the bike. I just got a dog >> in October and have no way of >> getting him and the bike up there. I was planning >> on taking two weeks off >> in August to go home but would love to have the bike >> up there with me. Living >> in an apartment doesn't allow me any room to store a >> trailer but, I figured >> a Moto Tote would be small enough to store in front >> of my car in the garage. >> For those that don't know, I live in downtown DC. >> Driving to pick up a >> trailer isn't a problem for me. >> > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. >http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 07:23:07 2005 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=yH3TZKWT/7Bf24TWIxpe2H9so9+obk1EeM7Aal2zWTcYG+i1fll9tA2s7Qu+VcvN6JYCX/1StH0sOJG+pyj5sameRkYNczkgpLR1CrroxBDoCJzMDDC5E+U4hwztjiOjqSvN2nz2hmHOgeAjnS7ueAoPMyhdYL+L4uXff4TnZvQ= ; Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 04:22:46 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, please!) :) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX This might be the best post you've ever made... Glenn --- Sean Jordan wrote: > Over 95% of Harleys made are still on the road.... > ....the other 5% actually made it home. > > now here are some other jokes about the jokes. > > Q. What do you call a group of Harley Owners with a > collective IQ of 120? > A. Sturgis ! > > Q. Why do Harley owners have tassels on their > handlebars and clothing? > A. To be able to tell if they're moving or not ! > > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog? > A. They both like to ride in the back of utes. > > Q. What is the difference between a Harley Davidson > and an old dog? > A. The dog can get in the back of the ute by itself. > > > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like a Porcupine? > A. Both have pricks on their back. > > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog? > A. If you leave them alone long enough, they'll both > mark their territory > > Q. What do you get when you have 32 Harley owners in > the same room? > A. A full set of teeth. > > Q. What do you have when you put 10,000 Harley > Davidsons on the bottom > of the ocean? > A. A good start. > > Q. Did you hear that Harley and the makers of Viagra > are teaming up > for a new officially licensed and endorsed version > of the wonder pill > to be available over the counter without a > prescription at dealerships > across the country? > A. It's called Buyagra and the more you spend, the > harder you get. > > Q. Why do harley riders never ride faster than > 80mp/h? > A. Any faster and they can't see where the parts > fell off. > > Q. Why do harley riders chrome all their parts? > A. It makes them easier to spot on the side of the > road. > > Q. How do you know that the toothbrush was invented > in Milwaukee? > A. If it had been invented anywhere else, it would > have been called > the 'teeth brush' > > Q. What is the easiest and least expensive method of > making your > Harley go faster? > A. Unhitch the plough! > > Sean Jordan > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 07:40:36 2005 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=zlC/h20mW5ubuH5Mjv5wA6y7WQq/hZ5BFaFEQx4Wtrjf+38Tho30OlPX353Cep/yhWD66chwftfbM0vQNVG8LMxuseWZcBIHDIEW0wexoFrAk2sFOjRPMRhI+BGci4Rs9p6k+lUyk8oCKmFTrKxo44zH1bB6b12URD/yDg0Iw7M= ; Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 04:40:29 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: DMTA To: rich hall , dc-cycles@XXXXXX best price = no profit = partners scrambling for assets (incl. customer funds) just a guess --- rich hall wrote: > I got my new helmet from them this past spring. Best > price I could find, > came quickly. Sorry to hear that. > > >From: Wayne Edelen > >To: > >Subject: DMTA > >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:10:23 -0500 (EST) > > > >I hope nobody here has a pending order! > > > >http://www.discountmotorcycletire.com/ > > > >-- Wayne > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 07:43:53 2005 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=hm/j1LxdDCP9GxJAOfM1U2wnEYy4/6vYaC99kIyGPn5pXqL+AY4M6KsrF30wJg0Mrl4KX1LG9xTOFOhTFwlDX1o280NLYNNCKVxqk8N5AXLx56hOE5oxRZHBc2GY5u3O9GDK5PCAEAN8UHV35ezbzh+7Xq+Pk7eaRjAOHqAjPWw= ; Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 04:43:45 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, please!) :) To: Glenn Dysart , dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- Glenn Dysart wrote: > This might be the best post you've ever made... > > Glenn i'm kinda partial to this one: -------------- I swear to God, this is the largest assembly of whiny pissants I have ever seen! First of all, to all of the stupid, subterannean Morlock wanna be lurkers who bitch about list content, SHUT THE HELL UP! You're in no position to tell people what to talk about when you fail to participate in any way, shape, or form! Piss off, deviant ass-gremlins! Do listers post for your personal enjoyment!?! 'OH! SORRY MASTER LURKER! I APOLOGIZE IF MY CONTENT IS NOT TO YOUR LIKING! MAYBE IF YOU HAD REAL DIALOG TO ENGAGE IN, YOU MIGHT NOT BE SUCH A LITTLE DICKHEAD WHEN IT CAME TO EMAIL LISTS!' And then all of the smarmy little peons with Cheese Whiz for brains who write in to bitch about it one way or the other!?? Let the lurkers exercise their stunted little brains to eke out one email and ignore them! Let them crawl back to their moron colony under the rock! I'd rather watch the whiny-ass Democrats try and piss and moan their way into a Presidential election on CNN! Let's just go grab a little Rent-A-Riot ala Jesse Jackson. Wankers. And all of you who stomp off to your rooms like petulant little children, go take your diaper off and put it on your face where it belongs....I'm tired of hearing your shit. If you any dildo-brained little shit balls have anything to say, get it out of your system. I wish the world wasn't filled with scab eating cock biters. -- Dick E. Anker, Esq. '00 Harris-framed GSXR-955 Streetfighter > --- Sean Jordan wrote: > > > Over 95% of Harleys made are still on the road.... > > ....the other 5% actually made it home. > > > > now here are some other jokes about the jokes. > > > > Q. What do you call a group of Harley Owners with a > > collective IQ of 120? > > A. Sturgis ! > > > > Q. Why do Harley owners have tassels on their > > handlebars and clothing? > > A. To be able to tell if they're moving or not ! > > > > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog? > > A. They both like to ride in the back of utes. > > > > Q. What is the difference between a Harley Davidson > > and an old dog? > > A. The dog can get in the back of the ute by itself. > > > > > > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like a Porcupine? > > A. Both have pricks on their back. > > > > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog? > > A. If you leave them alone long enough, they'll both > > mark their territory > > > > Q. What do you get when you have 32 Harley owners in > > the same room? > > A. A full set of teeth. > > > > Q. What do you have when you put 10,000 Harley > > Davidsons on the bottom > > of the ocean? > > A. A good start. > > > > Q. Did you hear that Harley and the makers of Viagra > > are teaming up > > for a new officially licensed and endorsed version > > of the wonder pill > > to be available over the counter without a > > prescription at dealerships > > across the country? > > A. It's called Buyagra and the more you spend, the > > harder you get. > > > > Q. Why do harley riders never ride faster than > > 80mp/h? > > A. Any faster and they can't see where the parts > > fell off. > > > > Q. Why do harley riders chrome all their parts? > > A. It makes them easier to spot on the side of the > > road. > > > > Q. How do you know that the toothbrush was invented > > in Milwaukee? > > A. If it had been invented anywhere else, it would > > have been called > > the 'teeth brush' > > > > Q. What is the easiest and least expensive method of > > making your > > Harley go faster? > > A. Unhitch the plough! > > > > Sean Jordan > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? > http://my.yahoo.com > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 07:47:59 2005 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=qjk/PCeRqjwoUWprwsiR7UJdTitMcUjTwZdjTnvlg0EjVvDJaaxEq5TicW1FKgqutyvmeOQZQHCiu+KPUXRbHnjPqJwUU8OfPfdY8fAtKOdlG1ynzv1AYBbOYWhTBvdTuOlaQawTASi0E5+1TR+DpCcXRwubUvVB0IYxbnojqCA= ; Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 04:47:46 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) To: "Mike B." , dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- "Mike B." wrote: > At 10:02 PM 1/6/05 -0500, Randy Moran wrote: > > >Mine doesn't whine, actually. It's a big V-twin that > sounds something > >like your Harley would if it ran correctly. > > Runs just fine. Starts up every time, and carries me and > a friend with no > complaints or signs of strain. Even gets over 40 mpg > unless I spend a lot > of time in slow traffic. How does the average sport bike > cope with, say, > 450 or so lbs loaded on it? i don't know, my wife and i together weigh 315# and get 40mpg. can i borrow your big-boned friend and some saddlebags, chrome and tassles to experiment? > >You mean it's supposed to sound like that? > > Yep! Apparently it's a really popular sound too, given > the sales figures > and number of imitators. > > >Wow... > > Yeah, a lot of people have that reaction... > > > -- > -- Mike B. > > '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for > the non-Harley folks) > > Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from > someone else's mistakes > is better. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 08:08:43 2005 From: Daniel To: Tom Gimer Cc: Glenn Dysart , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, please!) :) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 08:08:29 -0500 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Rotfl hilarious! On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 04:43:45 -0800 (PST), Tom Gimer wrote: >--- Glenn Dysart wrote: > >> This might be the best post you've ever made... >> >> Glenn > >i'm kinda partial to this one: > >-------------- >I swear to God, this is the largest assembly of whiny >pissants I have >ever seen! First of all, to all of the stupid, subterannean From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 08:21:21 2005 From: Daniel To: Tom Gimer Cc: "Mike B." , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 08:20:53 -0500 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- 40 mpg That's all fine and dandy in a vacuum tube, but let's talk real world figures here... tripple the price on the harley minimum and double your food allowance on the big boned friend... dooooooooooessn't seem too financially effecient to me. on the other hand, the look of envy you would get when people see you riding that big boned chick.. makes it all worth it.. priceless! Danny hell, handbasket, gasoline underpants On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 04:47:46 -0800 (PST), Tom Gimer wrote: >--- "Mike B." wrote: > >> At 10:02 PM 1/6/05 -0500, Randy Moran wrote: >> >> >Mine doesn't whine, actually. It's a big V-twin that >> sounds something >> >like your Harley would if it ran correctly. >> >> Runs just fine. Starts up every time, and carries me and >> a friend with no >> complaints or signs of strain. Even gets over 40 mpg >> unless I spend a lot >> of time in slow traffic. How does the average sport bike >> cope with, say, >> 450 or so lbs loaded on it? > >i don't know, my wife and i together weigh 315# and get >40mpg. > >can i borrow your big-boned friend and some saddlebags, >chrome and tassles to experiment? > > > > > >> >You mean it's supposed to sound like that? >> >> Yep! Apparently it's a really popular sound too, given >> the sales figures >> and number of imitators. >> >> >Wow... >> >> Yeah, a lot of people have that reaction... >> >> >> -- >> -- Mike B. >> >> '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for >> the non-Harley folks) >> >> Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from >> someone else's mistakes >> is better. >> >> > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. >http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 08:23:44 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:23:39 -0500 From: Dave Yates Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, please!) :) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Gimer, Thanks for bringing one helluva ray of sunshine into an otherwise bleak day in cyberspace... and the office. Dave ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 04:43:45 -0800 (PST) >From: Tom Gimer >Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, please!) :) >To: Glenn Dysart , dc-cycles@dc- cycles.org > >--- Glenn Dysart wrote: > >> This might be the best post you've ever made... >> >> Glenn > >i'm kinda partial to this one: > >-------------- >I swear to God, this is the largest assembly of whiny >pissants I have >ever seen! First of all, to all of the stupid, subterannean > >Morlock >wanna be lurkers who bitch about list content, SHUT THE >HELL UP! >You're in no position to tell people what to talk about >when you fail >to participate in any way, shape, or form! Piss off, >deviant >ass-gremlins! Do listers post for your personal >enjoyment!?! 'OH! >SORRY MASTER LURKER! I APOLOGIZE IF MY CONTENT IS NOT TO >YOUR LIKING! >MAYBE IF YOU HAD REAL DIALOG TO ENGAGE IN, YOU MIGHT NOT BE > >SUCH A >LITTLE DICKHEAD WHEN IT CAME TO EMAIL LISTS!' And then all >of the >smarmy little peons with Cheese Whiz for brains who write >in to bitch >about it one way or the other!?? Let the lurkers exercise >their >stunted little brains to eke out one email and ignore them! > >Let them >crawl back to their moron colony under the rock! I'd rather > >watch the >whiny-ass Democrats try and piss and moan their way into a >Presidential election on CNN! Let's just go grab a little >Rent-A-Riot >ala Jesse Jackson. Wankers. And all of you who stomp off to > >your >rooms like petulant little children, go take your diaper >off and put >it on your face where it belongs....I'm tired of hearing >your shit. >If you any dildo-brained little shit balls have anything to > >say, get >it out of your system. I wish the world wasn't filled with >scab >eating cock biters. > >-- >Dick E. Anker, Esq. > >'00 Harris-framed GSXR-955 Streetfighter > > > >> --- Sean Jordan wrote: >> >> > Over 95% of Harleys made are still on the road.... >> > ....the other 5% actually made it home. >> > >> > now here are some other jokes about the jokes. >> > >> > Q. What do you call a group of Harley Owners with a >> > collective IQ of 120? >> > A. Sturgis ! >> > >> > Q. Why do Harley owners have tassels on their >> > handlebars and clothing? >> > A. To be able to tell if they're moving or not ! >> > >> > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog? >> > A. They both like to ride in the back of utes. >> > >> > Q. What is the difference between a Harley Davidson >> > and an old dog? >> > A. The dog can get in the back of the ute by itself. >> > >> > >> > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like a Porcupine? >> > A. Both have pricks on their back. >> > >> > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog? >> > A. If you leave them alone long enough, they'll both >> > mark their territory >> > >> > Q. What do you get when you have 32 Harley owners in >> > the same room? >> > A. A full set of teeth. >> > >> > Q. What do you have when you put 10,000 Harley >> > Davidsons on the bottom >> > of the ocean? >> > A. A good start. >> > >> > Q. Did you hear that Harley and the makers of Viagra >> > are teaming up >> > for a new officially licensed and endorsed version >> > of the wonder pill >> > to be available over the counter without a >> > prescription at dealerships >> > across the country? >> > A. It's called Buyagra and the more you spend, the >> > harder you get. >> > >> > Q. Why do harley riders never ride faster than >> > 80mp/h? >> > A. Any faster and they can't see where the parts >> > fell off. >> > >> > Q. Why do harley riders chrome all their parts? >> > A. It makes them easier to spot on the side of the >> > road. >> > >> > Q. How do you know that the toothbrush was invented >> > in Milwaukee? >> > A. If it had been invented anywhere else, it would >> > have been called >> > the 'teeth brush' >> > >> > Q. What is the easiest and least expensive method of >> > making your >> > Harley go faster? >> > A. Unhitch the plough! >> > >> > Sean Jordan >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? >> http://my.yahoo.com >> >> > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. >http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 08:26:05 2005 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=ZI60Gx0GPXnZLFWfwMycLDAuPg9lifzEtJov4rIdkxBEb5ZElgzb8GjTjP1QzEsZ6lnO57g9CCPMShXGHLF9sZchO+ViWLQ+Hwod2RKogVgINHVO4d0yCsNSQ1tAf1aML5HHwu+kN1ObrvJ2IB/IVj+m9dx/iAmtWT2/1VLl9ss= ; Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 05:26:02 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX LMAO... --- Tom Gimer wrote: > can i borrow your big-boned friend and some > saddlebags, > chrome and tassles to experiment? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 08:27:11 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:27:05 -0500 From: Dave Yates Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >on the other hand, the look of envy you would get when people >see you riding that big boned chick.. makes it all worth it.. >priceless! [Dave] I don't believe anyone on the list has yet identified that (I think it was Gimer who 1st brought it up) it was indeed a 'chick'... It may well BE a chick, but in the interest of accuracy, should we not verify ? Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 08:45:21 2005 From: Daniel To: Dave Yates Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, please!) :) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 08:45:04 -0500 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- I know, I'd thank everyone who posted, the original posts and ever retort are pretty hilarious.. brightened my whole day.. On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:23:39 -0500, Dave Yates wrote: >Gimer, > > Thanks for bringing one helluva ray of sunshine into an >otherwise bleak day in cyberspace... and the office. > >Dave > >---- Original message ---- >>Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 04:43:45 -0800 (PST) >>From: Tom Gimer >>Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from >Harley riders, please!) :) >>To: Glenn Dysart , dc-cycles@dc- >cycles.org >> >>--- Glenn Dysart wrote: >> >>> This might be the best post you've ever made... >>> >>> Glenn >> >>i'm kinda partial to this one: >> >>-------------- >>I swear to God, this is the largest assembly of whiny >>pissants I have >>ever seen! First of all, to all of the stupid, subterannean >> >>Morlock >>wanna be lurkers who bitch about list content, SHUT THE >>HELL UP! >>You're in no position to tell people what to talk about >>when you fail >>to participate in any way, shape, or form! Piss off, >>deviant >>ass-gremlins! Do listers post for your personal >>enjoyment!?! 'OH! >>SORRY MASTER LURKER! I APOLOGIZE IF MY CONTENT IS NOT TO >>YOUR LIKING! >>MAYBE IF YOU HAD REAL DIALOG TO ENGAGE IN, YOU MIGHT NOT BE >> >>SUCH A >>LITTLE DICKHEAD WHEN IT CAME TO EMAIL LISTS!' And then all >>of the >>smarmy little peons with Cheese Whiz for brains who write >>in to bitch >>about it one way or the other!?? Let the lurkers exercise >>their >>stunted little brains to eke out one email and ignore them! >> >>Let them >>crawl back to their moron colony under the rock! I'd rather >> >>watch the >>whiny-ass Democrats try and piss and moan their way into a >>Presidential election on CNN! Let's just go grab a little >>Rent-A-Riot >>ala Jesse Jackson. Wankers. And all of you who stomp off to >> >>your >>rooms like petulant little children, go take your diaper >>off and put >>it on your face where it belongs....I'm tired of hearing >>your shit. >>If you any dildo-brained little shit balls have anything to >> >>say, get >>it out of your system. I wish the world wasn't filled with >>scab >>eating cock biters. >> >>-- >>Dick E. Anker, Esq. >> >>'00 Harris-framed GSXR-955 Streetfighter >> >> >> >>> --- Sean Jordan wrote: >>> >>> > Over 95% of Harleys made are still on the road.... >>> > ....the other 5% actually made it home. >>> > >>> > now here are some other jokes about the jokes. >>> > >>> > Q. What do you call a group of Harley Owners with a >>> > collective IQ of 120? >>> > A. Sturgis ! >>> > >>> > Q. Why do Harley owners have tassels on their >>> > handlebars and clothing? >>> > A. To be able to tell if they're moving or not ! >>> > >>> > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog? >>> > A. They both like to ride in the back of utes. >>> > >>> > Q. What is the difference between a Harley Davidson >>> > and an old dog? >>> > A. The dog can get in the back of the ute by itself. >>> > >>> > >>> > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like a Porcupine? >>> > A. Both have pricks on their back. >>> > >>> > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog? >>> > A. If you leave them alone long enough, they'll both >>> > mark their territory >>> > >>> > Q. What do you get when you have 32 Harley owners in >>> > the same room? >>> > A. A full set of teeth. >>> > >>> > Q. What do you have when you put 10,000 Harley >>> > Davidsons on the bottom >>> > of the ocean? >>> > A. A good start. >>> > >>> > Q. Did you hear that Harley and the makers of Viagra >>> > are teaming up >>> > for a new officially licensed and endorsed version >>> > of the wonder pill >>> > to be available over the counter without a >>> > prescription at dealerships >>> > across the country? >>> > A. It's called Buyagra and the more you spend, the >>> > harder you get. >>> > >>> > Q. Why do harley riders never ride faster than >>> > 80mp/h? >>> > A. Any faster and they can't see where the parts >>> > fell off. >>> > >>> > Q. Why do harley riders chrome all their parts? >>> > A. It makes them easier to spot on the side of the >>> > road. >>> > >>> > Q. How do you know that the toothbrush was invented >>> > in Milwaukee? >>> > A. If it had been invented anywhere else, it would >>> > have been called >>> > the 'teeth brush' >>> > >>> > Q. What is the easiest and least expensive method of >>> > making your >>> > Harley go faster? >>> > A. Unhitch the plough! >>> > >>> > Sean Jordan >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> __________________________________ >>> Do you Yahoo!? >>> The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? >>> http://my.yahoo.com >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>__________________________________ >>Do you Yahoo!? >>Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. >>http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 08:52:43 2005 From: Daniel To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 08:52:31 -0500 X-HotPOP: ----------------------------------------------- Sent By HotPOP.com FREE Email Get your FREE POP email at www.HotPOP.com ----------------------------------------------- Good point. kind of.. I'd rather be inacurate than actually inspect the gender status of the big boned friend. You do it! also what if it's both? would make the ride all that much sweeter! You could double the envy of potential sex partners for your passenger. Hey if your sexual preference is the same sex that defines you as homosexual, and preference for the opposite sex makes you heterosexual, but if you're a harley rider with the sexual preference for a hermaphrodite, what does that make you? On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:27:05 -0500, Dave Yates wrote: >>on the other hand, the look of envy you would get when people >>see you riding that big boned chick.. makes it all worth it.. >>priceless! > >[Dave] I don't believe anyone on the list has yet identified >that (I think it was Gimer who 1st brought it up) it was >indeed a 'chick'... It may well BE a chick, but in the >interest of accuracy, should we not verify ? > > >Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 08:57:08 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:57:05 -0500 From: Dave Yates Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX if you're a harley rider with the sexual preference for a hermaphrodite, what does that make you? [Dave] Weird ? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 09:00:33 2005 From: "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, ple ase!) :) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:00:19 -0500 Just tell us how you really feel! -----Original Message----- From: Tom Gimer [mailto:t_gimer@XXXXXX] To: Glenn Dysart; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, please!) :) --- Glenn Dysart wrote: > This might be the best post you've ever made... > > Glenn i'm kinda partial to this one: -------------- I swear to God, this is the largest assembly of whiny pissants I have ever seen! First of all, to all of the stupid, subterannean Morlock wanna be lurkers who bitch about list content, SHUT THE HELL UP! You're in no position to tell people what to talk about when you fail to participate in any way, shape, or form! Piss off, deviant ass-gremlins! Do listers post for your personal enjoyment!?! 'OH! SORRY MASTER LURKER! I APOLOGIZE IF MY CONTENT IS NOT TO YOUR LIKING! MAYBE IF YOU HAD REAL DIALOG TO ENGAGE IN, YOU MIGHT NOT BE SUCH A LITTLE DICKHEAD WHEN IT CAME TO EMAIL LISTS!' And then all of the smarmy little peons with Cheese Whiz for brains who write in to bitch about it one way or the other!?? Let the lurkers exercise their stunted little brains to eke out one email and ignore them! Let them crawl back to their moron colony under the rock! I'd rather watch the whiny-ass Democrats try and piss and moan their way into a Presidential election on CNN! Let's just go grab a little Rent-A-Riot ala Jesse Jackson. Wankers. And all of you who stomp off to your rooms like petulant little children, go take your diaper off and put it on your face where it belongs....I'm tired of hearing your shit. If you any dildo-brained little shit balls have anything to say, get it out of your system. I wish the world wasn't filled with scab eating cock biters. -- Dick E. Anker, Esq. '00 Harris-framed GSXR-955 Streetfighter > --- Sean Jordan wrote: > > > Over 95% of Harleys made are still on the road.... > > ....the other 5% actually made it home. > > > > now here are some other jokes about the jokes. > > > > Q. What do you call a group of Harley Owners with a > > collective IQ of 120? > > A. Sturgis ! > > > > Q. Why do Harley owners have tassels on their > > handlebars and clothing? > > A. To be able to tell if they're moving or not ! > > > > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog? > > A. They both like to ride in the back of utes. > > > > Q. What is the difference between a Harley Davidson > > and an old dog? > > A. The dog can get in the back of the ute by itself. > > > > > > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like a Porcupine? > > A. Both have pricks on their back. > > > > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog? > > A. If you leave them alone long enough, they'll both > > mark their territory > > > > Q. What do you get when you have 32 Harley owners in > > the same room? > > A. A full set of teeth. > > > > Q. What do you have when you put 10,000 Harley > > Davidsons on the bottom > > of the ocean? > > A. A good start. > > > > Q. Did you hear that Harley and the makers of Viagra > > are teaming up > > for a new officially licensed and endorsed version > > of the wonder pill > > to be available over the counter without a > > prescription at dealerships > > across the country? > > A. It's called Buyagra and the more you spend, the > > harder you get. > > > > Q. Why do harley riders never ride faster than > > 80mp/h? > > A. Any faster and they can't see where the parts > > fell off. > > > > Q. Why do harley riders chrome all their parts? > > A. It makes them easier to spot on the side of the > > road. > > > > Q. How do you know that the toothbrush was invented > > in Milwaukee? > > A. If it had been invented anywhere else, it would > > have been called > > the 'teeth brush' > > > > Q. What is the easiest and least expensive method of > > making your > > Harley go faster? > > A. Unhitch the plough! > > > > Sean Jordan > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? > http://my.yahoo.com > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 09:11:03 2005 From: To: Subject: Re: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 9:10:48 -0500 > > From: Daniel > Date: 2005/01/07 Fri AM 08:52:31 EST > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) > > Hey if your sexual preference is the same sex that defines > you as homosexual, and preference for the opposite sex makes you > heterosexual, but if you're a harley rider with the sexual preference > for a hermaphrodite, what does that make you? > ..a closet sport bike rider. -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 10:18:24 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 07:18:16 -0800 (PST) From: "James O'Connor" Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 01/06/05 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Well, after emailing the dc-cycles admin by mistake (thanks Harry), let me try this again...... Ok, after trying to email the list the entire day's posts......let me try this again, again ;) --------- This is my first attempt at posting here, so someone let me know if I'm doing it wrong. I will lurk no more ;). Regarding transport of a bike....I do believe UHaul still rents moto-trailers. Regardless, you can get a regular UHaul box-trailer for about $25 a day, which if you're only planning on hauling a bike a few times year - may make sense financially and for convenience sake. You can tie up the bike in a box trailer, but you'll want to check out the particular trailer you rent before pulling away, as the rails may be loose, or at the wrong height to securly strap down the bike. Regarding tongue weight - I've looked at the MotoTote type products. IMO, that is a lot of weight for anything short of a full-size truck and/or a truck with a heavy duty suspension. Putting 400-500-600lbs of tongue weight is a lot. Many large travel trailers hardly do this - and look at the vehicles that are towing them. The hitch can likely handle it (if it is a Class III or better, which if it has a 2" receiver, it likely is), but consideration for the tow vehicle's frame and suspension must be made. Seems risky to me for most vehicles. A full-size Blazer, maybe. A mid-size Blaze, I dunno if I'd do. I have not researched these to a great extent, but I do know a bit about trailers and towing (or at least think I do), so I may be off the mark. Anyway, I'll keep this one short. Hope this post works.......... - Jimmy, '03 Rex __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 10:30:57 2005 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:25:16 -0500 To: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) At 04:47 AM 1/7/05 -0800, Tom Gimer wrote: >--- "Mike B." wrote: >> of time in slow traffic. How does the average sport bike >> cope with, say, >> 450 or so lbs loaded on it? > >i don't know, my wife and i together weigh 315# and get >40mpg. In full winter leathers I weigh close to 300 lbs all by myself. Height adds weight for a given diameter...though I could stand to loose a few pounds I'm not exactly spherical. >can i borrow your big-boned friend and some saddlebags, >chrome and tassles to experiment? I wasn't including the chrome, saddlebags or tassels in the 450 lbs load...that's part of the bike's weight (though the only tassels are on the conchos...don't have any of the stringy kind). I was just adding up riders and the gear they are wearing. As to "big boned friend", well, she is 5'10", so I guess her bones are longer than average, but I get the impression that you are assuming more chubby than is the case. I once owned a bike pretty much exactly like Carl's Honda...and it was so cramped to ride, particularly with a passenger, that I only took it for short afternoon trips. My current bike is big enough, with the control extensions I added, to carry me in fair comfort, even with an appropriately sized SO, with some room left over for some luggage. Very few other major brands can manage that (BMW is one that probably could, but I haven't seen a Jap bike that can yet...and certainly nothing that would qualify as a "sport bike"). -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 10:31:01 2005 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:31:11 -0500 To: Dave Yates , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) At 08:27 AM 1/7/05 -0500, Dave Yates wrote: >>on the other hand, the look of envy you would get when people >>see you riding that big boned chick.. makes it all worth it.. >>priceless! > >[Dave] I don't believe anyone on the list has yet identified >that (I think it was Gimer who 1st brought it up) it was >indeed a 'chick'... It may well BE a chick, but in the >interest of accuracy, should we not verify ? Since you are so strangely curious, yes, my passengers have all been female so far, and I plan to keep it that way...so you wouldn't be interested in them. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 10:33:11 2005 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:33:02 -0500 To: Daniel , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) At 08:52 AM 1/7/05 -0500, Daniel wrote: >heterosexual, but if you're a harley rider with the sexual preference >for a hermaphrodite, what does that make you? Your dream date? -- Mike B. -- A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting. Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 10:44:26 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:44:19 -0500 From: Dave Yates Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 01/06/05 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Thanks for delurking! ---- Original message ---- >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 07:18:16 -0800 (PST) >From: "James O'Connor" >Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 01/06/05 >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >Well, after emailing the dc-cycles admin by mistake (thanks Harry), >let me try this again...... > >Ok, after trying to email the list the entire day's posts......let me Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 11:21:25 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:21:16 -0500 From: Dave Yates Subject: Bartman: Shut the hell up To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I am not curious in the least, nor did in any way assert you were a homosexual, heterosexual, hermaphrodite fetishist, or anything else. My comments were addressed directly to Danny pointing out that there had not been a positive id, and he shouldn't jump to conclusions. Further, since you do not know me, of me, my habits, interests, disinterests, concerns, or, for that matter, anything about me, you have zero understanding or knowledge with which to back up your totally unverified assertion that I would, or would not prefer whether or not your passengers are male female or some yet undetermined freak of nature. While I have generally left you alone in your verbose posts to the list, no matter how irrelevantly argued they were. I have done so primarily in the interest of not being bothered in your postings. However, if you intend upon launching into a childish little name calling game, I suggest that you do some deep soul searching and self evaluation before you yet again make some rampantly uneducated, ignorant assertion about which you have no knowledge. Should you feel the urgent need to defend your assertion, do everyone subscribed a favor and keep if off the DCC list. Many here have made it abundantly clear that they have no desire to be collaterally involved in one of your flame fests, or picking apart of someone's postings here line by line. >>[Dave] I don't believe anyone on the list has yet identified >>that (I think it was Gimer who 1st brought it up) it was >>indeed a 'chick'... It may well BE a chick, but in the >>interest of accuracy, should we not verify ? > >Since you are so strangely curious, yes, my passengers have >all been female so far, and I plan to keep it that way...so >you wouldn't be interested in them. >-- >-- Mike B. Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 11:39:23 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, please!) :) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:44:58 -0500 4 words. You a fucking troll. On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 17:42:02 -0500, Sean Jordan wrote > Over 95% of Harleys made are still on the road.... > ....the other 5% actually made it home. > > now here are some other jokes about the jokes. > > Q. What do you call a group of Harley Owners with a collective IQ of > 120? > A. Sturgis ! > > Q. Why do Harley owners have tassels on their handlebars and > clothing? > A. To be able to tell if they're moving or not ! > > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog? > A. They both like to ride in the back of utes. > > Q. What is the difference between a Harley Davidson and an old dog? > A. The dog can get in the back of the ute by itself. > > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like a Porcupine? > A. Both have pricks on their back. > > Q. How is a Harley Davidson like an old dog? > > A. If you leave them alone long enough, they'll both mark their > territory > > Q. What do you get when you have 32 Harley owners in the same room? > A. A full set of teeth. > > Q. What do you have when you put 10,000 Harley Davidsons on the > bottom of the ocean? > A. A good start. > > Q. Did you hear that Harley and the makers of Viagra are teaming up > for a new officially licensed and endorsed version of the wonder pill > to be available over the counter without a prescription at > dealerships across the country? > A. It's called Buyagra and the more you spend, the harder you get. > > Q. Why do harley riders never ride faster than 80mp/h? > A. Any faster and they can't see where the parts fell off. > > Q. Why do harley riders chrome all their parts? > A. It makes them easier to spot on the side of the road. > > Q. How do you know that the toothbrush was invented in Milwaukee? > A. If it had been invented anywhere else, it would have been called > the 'teeth brush' > > Q. What is the easiest and least expensive method of making your > Harley go faster? > A. Unhitch the plough! > > Sean Jordan -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 11:45:28 2005 Subject: Just curious about black sportbikes Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:45:24 -0500 From: "Julian Halton" To: If any of you have owned a black sportbike: Would you care to comment on how the paint scheme holds up as opposed to a more neutral color like silver? Are scratches and dents more apparent because of the contrast? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 11:45:35 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:45:29 -0500 From: Paul Wilson To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, please!) :) Golly, does the list need a collective time-out? Go to the corner, pout and suck its collective thumb? There's been no measurable snow this winter, and precious little PMS. How about everyone take a deep breath, and plan go for a ride? It's supposed to be nice Sunday. On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:44:58 -0500, Rob Sharp wrote: > 4 words. > > You a troll. > -- Paul in DC - www.wilsonline.org 95 VFR - 90 KLR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 11:50:44 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:50:35 -0500 From: Robert To: Julian Halton Subject: Re: Just curious about black sportbikes Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I would think it all depends... Black as a color may hide some types of scratches, but if the scratches are deep enough and the underlying substrate is a lighter color, will certainly showcase even minor blemishes. As a personal note, though, I like the look of dark-colored bikes, especially the black/grey Hayabusa and the black Vstrom. If the coating of road-grime and dirt is thick enough, who can tell what color the bike is anyway? ;-) Robert Verde On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:45:24 -0500, Julian Halton wrote: > If any of you have owned a black sportbike: Would you care to comment on > how the paint scheme holds up as opposed to a more neutral color like > silver? > Are scratches and dents more apparent because of the contrast? > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 11:53:15 2005 From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Just curious about black sportbikes Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:52:14 -0500 Julian, I have owned a silverdammit Concours ('86) and now own a black Concours ('92). I have also owned several black cars and now own a silver car. I can say that when I had the silver Concours, I usually didn't notice how dirty, etc. it was until I washed it. With the black, every little imperfection shows up immediately after it has been washed. So, yes, I would say that black shows dirt, dust, etc. much more intensely than silver. Depending on the severity of the scratches, however, silver probably isn't a lot better, but some. One of the reasons I went to a silver car this time was because I was tired of having to look at a black car that was beautiful for about 10 minutes after I washed it, and then went downhill fast. My next bike will probably be silver, or a "neutral" color, for much the same reason. I still love a clean, waxed, black vehicle, though... Perry >From: "Julian Halton" >To: >Subject: Just curious about black sportbikes >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:45:24 -0500 > >If any of you have owned a black sportbike: Would you care to comment on >how the paint scheme holds up as opposed to a more neutral color like >silver? >Are scratches and dents more apparent because of the contrast? > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 11:54:10 2005 From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, please!) :) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:53:31 -0500 Seriously! If things are this bad now, imagine what February is going to be like... Perry >From: Paul Wilson >Reply-To: Paul Wilson >To: DC-Cycles >Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, >please!) :) >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:45:29 -0500 > >Golly, does the list need a collective time-out? Go to the corner, >pout and suck its collective thumb? There's been no measurable snow >this winter, and precious little PMS. > >How about everyone take a deep breath, and plan go for a ride? It's >supposed to be nice Sunday. > > >On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:44:58 -0500, Rob Sharp wrote: > > 4 words. > > > > You a troll. > > > > >-- >Paul in DC - www.wilsonline.org >95 VFR - 90 KLR > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 11:56:25 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:56:19 -0500 From: Dave Yates Subject: Re: Just curious about black sportbikes To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >If any of you have owned a black sportbike: Would you care >to comment on how the paint scheme holds up as opposed to a >more neutral color like silver? [Dave] First off, is this a white thing? ;-) I've had a black zx11 since '94, and (when I bother to clean it) it still looks very good, excepting the tank scratch it's had since I bought it. It's no harder, or easier to wash than say, a red bike, or magenta, or whatever. >Are scratches and dents more apparent because of the >contrast? [Dave] maybe a little, but if you keep the shine good, and take care not to scuff it, it will hold up for a good long time. I figure it this way, most of the nicks, scratches, etc. are 'character' marks... For example, the nick out of the front wheel fender? That's where the upper fairing hit it from a high speed stop. Mirrors? Hell, if I started caring about them, I couldn't make those occaisional 'tight squeeze' moves ;-) A bike of any color, is vastly superior to any 4 wheeler. Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 12:32:34 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:32:20 EST Subject: Re: Just curious about black sportbikes To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 1/7/2005 11:46:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, julian@XXXXXX writes: > If any of you have owned a black sportbike: Would you care to comment on > how the paint scheme holds up If I ever clean mine I will let you know.... John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 12:43:54 2005 Subject: RE: Just curious about black sportbikes Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:43:45 -0500 From: "Jonathan W. Kalmes" To: >If any of you have owned a black sportbike: Would you care to >comment on how the paint scheme holds up as opposed to a more >neutral color like silver? >Are scratches and dents more apparent because of the contrast? I had a black & red cruiser and it definitely showed dirt and scratches very easily and quickly (add chrome to that mix and it was a major PIA). I also had a bike that was flat black (think Ducati Monster, but this was a home-grown paint job). The flat black was great... Probably showed less dirt and scratches than anything else I've had. If I had to repaint a bike again, I'd probably go with the flat black if the bike had enough guts to back it up. Just my two cents. --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 13:27:23 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: "Perry Coleman" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, please!) :) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:33:22 -0500 Hopefully I will have my Cobalt SS S/C then I can harass Wayne in his Corvette. Rob On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:53:31 -0500, Perry Coleman wrote > Seriously! If things are this bad now, imagine what February is > going to be like... > > Perry > > >From: Paul Wilson > >Reply-To: Paul Wilson > >To: DC-Cycles > >Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, > >please!) :) > >Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:45:29 -0500 > > > >Golly, does the list need a collective time-out? Go to the corner, > >pout and suck its collective thumb? There's been no measurable snow > >this winter, and precious little PMS. > > > >How about everyone take a deep breath, and plan go for a ride? It's > >supposed to be nice Sunday. > > > > > >On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:44:58 -0500, Rob Sharp wrote: > > > 4 words. > > > > > > You a troll. > > > > > > > > >-- > >Paul in DC - www.wilsonline.org > >95 VFR - 90 KLR > > -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 13:36:51 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:36:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) From: Randy Moran To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX On Friday, January 7, 2005, at 12:20 AM, Mike B. wrote: > At 10:02 PM 1/6/05 -0500, Randy Moran wrote: > >> Mine doesn't whine, actually. It's a big V-twin that sounds something >> like your Harley would if it ran correctly. > > Runs just fine. Starts up every time, and carries me and a friend > with no > complaints or signs of strain. Even gets over 40 mpg unless I spend a > lot > of time in slow traffic. How does the average sport bike cope with, > say, > 450 or so lbs loaded on it? It would still waste your H-D in any competition of speed or high-speed handling. It wouldn't be as comfortable for the passenger. Most chicks I know (including my wife) know how to ride and have their own bikes, so this scenario would be unlikely to occur, thankfully. >> You mean it's supposed to sound like that? > > Yep! Apparently it's a really popular sound too, given the sales > figures > and number of imitators. Popularity is not necessarily a measure of goodness. Michael Jackson's is a popular sound as well. He's sold millions and millions of records, and given rise to a legion of imitators. But maybe you're a fan of "the King of Pop," eh, Mike? >> Wow... > > Yeah, a lot of people have that reaction... Sure, a lot of people say "wow," when they look at a Harley. I do sometimes. I said it last summer when I pulled over to check on a guy outside of Middleburg, whose bike looked to be broken down. It was. An H-D, less than 10 days new with a bad charging system. I said "wow," and left him some water while he waited for his buddy's pickup truck. I said it a few summers before, when my buddy had to pull his brand new Sportster over on 66 just in time to prevent his clutch lever assembly from coming apart as the bolts vibrated out. As an H-D rider, you probably hear "wow" quite a bit. I'm guessing it probably doesn't mean what you think it means. RPM From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 13:47:31 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:47:23 -0800 (PST) From: Carl Custer Subject: Tall Carl To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Evil Carl is away and I've been out of the country. Read this from Tall Carl on SabMag and though you'd enjoy Old Weird Carl in Bethesda Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 04:14:00 +0800 From: Carl Parker Subject: Happy Holidaze from China... Fellas and Fellettes... Been a while since I posted and seeing as how it's already X-Mas in China I figgured I'd say happy holidays. I often think about ya'll, the open highways and engines bigger than 150cc. Minus the personal and financial stress of this season I do appreciate the idea of taking thetime to remember the people you care about. I don't want to get mushy so I'll just give ya'll a good swift punch in the arm. Christmas is certainly celebrated differently in Chengdu. I've just been to a city wide celebration where easily over 100,000 people commandeer the streets and beat the living hell out of each other with various inflatable weapons, the most popular of which is a huge American baseball bat. This event is unique to Chengdu and full of...um...different meaning. I've seen some pretty bewildering things in my life but this has to be somewhere in the top three. I'm talking about sheer drinking and chaos; I equate it to New Years Eve at Times Square times 100 in the violence and fun factor. Anyway, to make a long story short: Fresh off the CF card... http://www.imagevent.com/comradecarl/xmasinthedu As a side note, some photos of my trip to Tibet are also on this site although for various reasons the pictures have no comments. The book(just for fun) is in the works and needs to be finished, critiqued and edited. In the meantime, I hope pictures will say something. http://www.imagevent.com/comradecarl/tibet I'll be heading back to the US to visit on the 19th of Jan. I should bein town for about 4 weeks. I may be sniffin' around some of yourall'z'z garages so maybe we can go for a nice loooong ride. Until then, I've got a toast with your names on it. Don't hog that nog'! Merry X-Mas ya'll! Much Love, HighC __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 13:57:05 2005 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:57:21 -0500 To: Randy Moran , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) At 01:36 PM 1/7/05 -0500, Randy Moran wrote: >On Friday, January 7, 2005, at 12:20 AM, Mike B. wrote: >> of time in slow traffic. How does the average sport bike cope with, >> say, 450 or so lbs loaded on it? > >It would still waste your H-D in any competition of speed or high-speed >handling. Maybe, maybe not, but in any case, so what? My bike wasn't built for speed or high-speed handling. I have zero interest in racing, so why would I care whether my bike is good at that? My bike is designed pretty well to do what I want it to do...unlike any sportbike I've seen or heard of, which would all suck for what I want a bike for. >It wouldn't be as comfortable for the passenger. Fault number one...there are many others. What is a fault for one may be a feature for another though. >Most chicks >I know (including my wife) know how to ride and have their own bikes, >so this scenario would be unlikely to occur, thankfully. Some of the women I know have bikes and ride (and none like being referred to as "chicks" BTW). Some know how to ride, but don't have bikes. One has a bike but is still learning to ride. Some just like being passengers better some or all of the time. I'm happy to ride with them either way...and to have the option to do it either way. >>> You mean it's supposed to sound like that? >> >> Yep! Apparently it's a really popular sound too, given the sales >> figures and number of imitators. > >Popularity is not necessarily a measure of goodness. Depends what you are looking at. As a general theory though I agree with you...take Windoze for example... >from coming apart as the bolts vibrated out. As an H-D rider, you >probably hear "wow" quite a bit. Actually, I hear, "Nice bike!" a lot more often. BTW, mine hasn't had any mechanical problems so far (almost 7000 miles since I got it last year). The 57 bikes that were on our (very warm) Polar Bear Ride on the 1st finished the ride without a single breakdown. Ditto for the 80 or so that rode down to Va. Beach last June for a camping trip (though one guy did run out of gas...and has been getting kidded about it ever since). In fact, on all the group rides I've been on so far (at least one a month, more when it's nice out) there hasn't been a single mechanical breakdown by a H-D bike, and the only part that's fallen off was one guy who dropped his keys. One rider on a ride last spring did manage to shear off all the pulley bolts from his rear wheel, but that was a home-built chopper with a 124 cubic inch engine, not a H-D, and he's since been educated about Grade 8 hardware in critical high stress locations like that. Those jokes weren't bad...but they'd have been funnier back when Harleys really were like that. I think it was about the time Mr. Honda was seeing his first self-propelled vehicle... -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 13:57:30 2005 Subject: Just curious about black sportbikes Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:57:28 -0500 From: "Julian Halton" To: "Perry Coleman" , Specifically I was wondering about: http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/unitinfo/2/mcy/5/8/0/yamaha_yzf-r6. aspx This is one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen. While I ride my bike in every kind of weather except for ice and excessive cold\salt..I do like to keep it well maintained. I am wondering if $100.00 extra for the black color is worth it. If it is going to look like shite after every ride, maybe I am better off with another color. The reason I am posting this on the board is because of everyone's experience. Thanks for the replies thus far....and oh what a beautiful day it is. Just took a two hour lunch by mistake..forgot to bring watch and have yet to eat :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 14:01:13 2005 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 14:00:25 -0500 To: Carl Custer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: Tall Carl At 10:47 AM 1/7/05 -0800, Carl Custer wrote: >Evil Carl is away and I've been out of the country. Actually, Evil Carl is gone. He un-sub'd a couple of months ago. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 14:03:25 2005 Subject: RE: Just curious about black sportbikes Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:03:20 -0500 From: "Jonathan W. Kalmes" To: >This is one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen. >While I ride my bike in every kind of weather except for ice >and excessive cold\salt..I do like to keep it well maintained. Link no good here... Is that the R6 with the black paint and the red flame job on it? That is a sweet setup. :) --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 14:05:57 2005 Subject: RE: Just curious about black sportbikes Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:05:54 -0500 From: "Julian Halton" To: "Jonathan W. Kalmes" , No, no this is all black. The link is no good for you because you wisely have activeX controls disabled. I now use Firefox as my internet browser of choice and am much happier and bug free. -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan W. Kalmes [mailto:jkalmes@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Just curious about black sportbikes >This is one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen. >While I ride my bike in every kind of weather except for ice and >excessive cold\salt..I do like to keep it well maintained. Link no good here... Is that the R6 with the black paint and the red flame job on it? That is a sweet setup. :) --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 14:11:24 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:11:12 -0800 (PST) From: Carl Custer Subject: Re: Tall Carl To: "Mike B." , dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- "Mike B." wrote: > Actually, Evil Carl is gone. He un-sub'd a couple > of months ago. Then Bwahahaha, I -- am -- The - - - Carl. Ah well hell, Happy week end. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 14:33:30 2005 Subject: RE: Just curious about black sportbikes Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:33:25 -0500 From: "Jonathan W. Kalmes" To: >No, no this is all black. The link is no good for you >because you wisely have activeX controls disabled. I now use >Firefox as my internet browser of choice and am much happier >and bug free. Oh... You must be referring to the Raven scheme they came out with for the 2005s. This one, right?: http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/mcy/media/wallpaper/wallpaper_mcy_0 5_R1_5_1024.jpg Schweetness! Half flat, half gloss. I'd be all over that if I could get another bike past the wife. I'd recommend jumping on that if you can and don't worry about the paint. The parts that normally get wear and tear are flat, with a couple of minor exceptions. I'd put a tank cover or some tank slapper stickers on the tank to stop "knee scuffs", and maybe some clear tape on the bottom belly pan if you're really trying to keep it nice. BTW... I'm Firefox'd as well. Outlook just dropped the "aspx" portion of your link due to word-wrap. My bad. --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 14:43:23 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:03:10 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen To: Subject: Re: Just curious about black sportbikes On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Julian Halton wrote: > If any of you have owned a black sportbike: Would you care to comment on > how the paint scheme holds up as opposed to a more neutral color like > silver? > Are scratches and dents more apparent because of the contrast? Just like a dark colored car, it will show imperfections more than a lighter color. My 'Busa is dark in color, a few years old and still looks nearly showroom. http://www.blueblackbusa.org/092304//DSC02869.JPG http://www.blueblackbusa.org/092304//DSC02870.JPG http://www.blueblackbusa.org/092304//DSC02873.JPG I don't wash the bike much, but it stays inside and when I do wash it, I dry it with compressed air. I think that helps keep the finish in good shape. I don't rack up miles like a lot of people on here. I log 5-7k each year. -- Wayne From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 14:45:32 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:05:18 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen To: Subject: Re: Harley Jokes (Funny jokes! No whining from Harley riders, please!) :) On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Rob Sharp wrote: > Hopefully I will have my Cobalt SS S/C then I can harass Wayne in his Corvette. > > Rob You've been watching too much TV, Rob. :-) -- Wayne From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 14:59:47 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:59:36 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) To: "Mike B." , Daniel , DC Cycles mike: that wasn't my response..... wipe the shit out of yer eyes! --- "Mike B." wrote: > At 08:20 AM 1/7/05 -0500, Daniel wrote: > >40 mpg > >That's all fine and dandy in a vacuum tube, > >but let's talk real world figures here... > > > >tripple the price on the harley minimum > >and double your food allowance on the big boned > friend... > >dooooooooooessn't seem too financially effecient to me. > > Is that the sort of "new math" you use when calculating > "billable hours"? > > You don't know much about tall women, do you? Despite > the Napoleon Complex > that probably makes you go after them anyway? > > > -- > -- Mike B. > > '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for > the non-Harley folks) > > Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from > someone else's mistakes > is better. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page )B– Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 15:06:10 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:06:00 -0500 From: Michael Jordan To: "Mike B." Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) Cc: Randy Moran , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Those jokes weren't bad...but they'd have been funnier back when Harleys > really were like that. I think it was about the time Mr. Honda was seeing > his first self-propelled vehicle... You don't have to go back that far - three letters: AMF I do believe that my '34 Harley was more reliable than almost any of the later AMF bikes. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 15:59:55 2005 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:00:03 -0500 To: Michael Jordan From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: Comment about "Harley Jokes" (No whining from Sport Bike riders, please!) :) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX At 03:06 PM 1/7/05 -0500, Michael Jordan wrote: >> Those jokes weren't bad...but they'd have been funnier back when Harleys >> really were like that. I think it was about the time Mr. Honda was seeing >> his first self-propelled vehicle... > >You don't have to go back that far - three letters: AMF > >I do believe that my '34 Harley was more reliable than almost any of >the later AMF bikes. Good point. Unhappy workers will do in your quality for sure. I've heard stories about bikes being delivered to dealers with really obvious "issues", such as missing pistons, during that unhappy period in Harley's history. I've also heard about "cutbacks" on things like o-rings that made them leak like sieves. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 16:06:32 2005 From: "David Cross" To: Subject: HOV in jeopardy for motorcycles? Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:06:21 -0500 Not trying to raise any alarms, but as the HOV backlash against Hybrid cars grows I am concerned that they will lump the motorcycles in with them in the next round of HOV changes. How can we make sure this does not occur? "And while we're at it, lets get rid of the damn motorcycles from HOV as well!" As Hybrid Cars Multiply, So Do Carpooling Gripes http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54561-2005Jan6.html Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 16:24:58 2005 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:25:12 -0500 To: "David Cross" , From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: HOV in jeopardy for motorcycles? At 04:06 PM 1/7/05 -0500, David Cross wrote: >Not trying to raise any alarms, but as the HOV backlash against Hybrid cars >grows I am concerned that they will lump the motorcycles in with them in the >next round of HOV changes. How can we make sure this does not occur? Make sure? Get elected Governor is about all I can think of. Short of that, joining motorcycle lobbying organizations, like the AMA, is a good move in that direction I think. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 16:36:17 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:35:59 -0500 Subject: Fwd: Just curious about black sportbikes From: Randy Moran To: DC Cycles > Don't sleep on the RC51, boys! It's back and it's black for 2005! > > http://powersports.honda.com/motorcycles/sport/ > model.asp?ModelName=RC51&ModelYear=2005&ModelId=RVT1000R5 > > RPM > > On Friday, January 7, 2005, at 01:57 PM, Julian Halton wrote: > >> Specifically I was wondering about: >> http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/unitinfo/2/mcy/5/8/0/yamaha_yzf- >> r6. >> aspx > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 16:37:39 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:37:37 -0800 (PST) From: "James O'Connor" Subject: Re: HOV in jeopardy for motorcycles? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I wonder how the number of motos compares to the number of hybrids in the HOV lanes? I generally see several hybrids for every bike on my commute. I would probably have to attend one of those fancy public meetings if it looked like they were trying to slice bikes out of HOV too. Maybe the renewal of the Hybrids in HOV law would be a good time to suggest legalizing lane splitting for motos in the metro area......... - Jimmy --- "Mike B." wrote: > At 04:06 PM 1/7/05 -0500, David Cross wrote: > >Not trying to raise any alarms, but as the HOV backlash against > Hybrid cars > >grows I am concerned that they will lump the motorcycles in with > them in the > >next round of HOV changes. How can we make sure this does not > occur? > > Make sure? Get elected Governor is about all I can think of. > > Short of that, joining motorcycle lobbying organizations, like the > AMA, is > a good move in that direction I think. > > > -- > -- Mike B. > > '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the > non-Harley folks) > > Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's > mistakes > is better. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Jan 7 17:02:28 2005 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:00:48 -0500 From: Paul Wilson To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: HOV in jeopardy for motorcycles? On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:37:37 -0800 (PST), James O'Connor wrote: > I wonder how the number of motos compares to t