From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 1 23:01:29 2000 Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 22:58:37 -0500 From: JEM Broga Subject: AGV Leathers for Sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, sv650@XXXXXX X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_8UvPGaAKrM7gu9xCOjpJyw) Any new racers - Have you bought leathers yet? I have only raced one season in mine and I = am selling them cheap. They are size 46 AGV Rage in white red and black. = Let me know if you or anyone you know is looking for leathers. I only = went down once in them, a graceful lowside in T6 at Summit, no = structural damage to suit, but some cosmetic damage on the ass from the = slide. Doesn't effect protection at all. Selling for $150 plus shipping = if not local. (DC Area) Jonathan Broga JEM Racing '99 SV650X - WERA Expert #502 Sponsored by: http://www.speed-werks.com http://www.centurypool.com --Boundary_(ID_8UvPGaAKrM7gu9xCOjpJyw)

Any new racers -

Have you bought leathers yet? I have = only raced one=20 season in mine and I am selling them cheap. They are size 46 AGV Rage in = white=20 red and black. Let me know if you or anyone you know is looking for = leathers. I=20 only went down once in them, a graceful lowside in T6 at Summit, no = structural=20 damage to suit, but some cosmetic damage on the ass from the slide. = Doesn't=20 effect protection at all. Selling for $150 plus shipping if not local. = (DC=20 Area)

Jonathan Broga
JEM Racing
'99 = SV650X - WERA=20 Expert #502

Sponsored by:
http://www.speed-werks.com
http://www.centurypool.com

--Boundary_(ID_8UvPGaAKrM7gu9xCOjpJyw)-- From dc-cycles-request Sun Jan 2 12:13:03 2000 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:10:27 -0500 From: JEM Broga Subject: Tires for sale - Cheap, DC Area To: sv650@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_JpPI51CHwDzhOdzL3l+e9A) I am doing spring cleaning of the garage, and have some take-offs to = sell.=20 1) 207 GP's Plenty of tread, 8 heat cycles per set on an SV650 at Summit = - 2 sets 170/60 120/70 $50 per set/OBO 2)MEZ4 - only 400 gentle miles. Used for break in - 1 set 160/60 120/60 $50/OBO Jonathan Broga JEM Racing '99 SV650X - CCS#500 Sponsored by: http://www.speed-werks.com http://www.centurypool.com --Boundary_(ID_JpPI51CHwDzhOdzL3l+e9A)

I am doing spring cleaning of the = garage, and have=20 some take-offs to sell.

1) 207 GP's Plenty of tread, 8 heat = cycles per set=20 on an SV650 at Summit - 2 sets

170/60

120/70

$50 per = set/OBO

2)MEZ4 - only 400 gentle miles. Used = for break in -=20 1 set

160/60

120/60

$50/OBO

Jonathan Broga
JEM Racing
'99 = SV650X -=20 CCS#500

Sponsored by:
http://www.speed-werks.com
http://www.centurypool.com

--Boundary_(ID_JpPI51CHwDzhOdzL3l+e9A)-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 08:14:47 2000 X-Sender: nsuesse@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 08:15:19 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Ned Suesse Subject: Scary... http://www.marineturbine.com/y2kinnov.htm Several Bad ideas rolled into one... Ned Suesse From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 08:27:26 2000 From: Jason Picton To: "'Ned Suesse'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Scary... Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 08:23:30 -0500 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF55ED.B9D441AE Yeah, but how well does it corner. Jason -----Original Message----- From: Ned Suesse [mailto:nsuesse@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 8:15 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Scary... http://www.marineturbine.com/y2kinnov.htm Several Bad ideas rolled into one... Ned Suesse ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF55ED.B9D441AE Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Jason Picton.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Picton;Jason FN:Jason Picton ORG:;IT EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:jip98@XXXXXX REV:19990611T195532Z END:VCARD ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF55ED.B9D441AE-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 09:14:41 2000 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 09:12:56 -0500 From: Nelson Fernandez Organization: Production Technology, Inc. X-Accept-Language: en To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Lots of presents for the bike Hello friends and fellow listers Hope everyone had a happy holiday and new year. It would seem that my bike made out well this christmas. Finally got those sink sticks in and spent Sunday rejetting and sinking the carbs (best it has run since I bought it). Had to use a little teflon tape to make up for the fact that the FZR has 6mm holes and the sink sticks and every other bike know to man uses 5mm, didn't want to wait any longer for the 6mm adapters to arrive. Also got a new set of mirrors so that I can see more than my forearms when riding. Its really nice not having to lift your arm up to look under it to know who is at your back door. As well as the stuff for the bike itself I also received copies of the Sportbike Performance Handbook and Sportbiking: The Real World (The Advanced Riders Handbook). Will let you all know what I think of them when I am finished reading but so far I like what I've read. Needless to say if anyone wants to use the sticks just drop me a line and let me know. I also have a nice set of Snap-On tools but after loosing over $500 worth to someone who decided to move away right after borrowing some, they have become "use with owner around" tools (sorry). Well, enjoy the temperatures while they last everyone because you know it want last and we'll be back to runny noses and frozen fingers before you know it. Take care all Nelson -- Nelson Fernandez Network Administrator Production Technology, Inc. 2231 Crystal Drive Suite 815 Arlington, VA 22202 Phone 703.271.9055 Fax 703.271.9059 www. http://www.pti.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 09:19:39 2000 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 06:19:35 -0800 (PST) From: Leon Begeman Reply-To: mrider@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Scary... To: Ned Suesse , dc-cycles@XXXXXX I saw this bike at Daytona last year. It's pretty. I did not see it run. Which of the features of the bike do you think are bad ideas? I thought it showed some interesting uses of technology. Leon. --- Ned Suesse wrote: > http://www.marineturbine.com/y2kinnov.htm > > Several Bad ideas rolled into one... > > Ned Suesse > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 10:38:55 2000 From: "Horkster" Reply-To: "Horkster" Date: Mon, 3 Jan 100 10:36:35 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mrider@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Scary... ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Leon Begeman Reply-To: mrider@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 06:19:35 -0800 (PST) >Which of the features of the bike do you think are bad >ideas? The worst feature was chain drive. :) Horkster -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth 1998 Concours - His - BugSlayer II - VA Plate: BGSLYR 1999 Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi - VA Plate: GPNEHI "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 13:18:03 2000 Reply-To: From: "Jim Maier" To: Subject: Info on NYC/ Motorcycle Show Trip Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:18:33 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-SLUIDL: BF8E0142-C06E11D3-ACCF0010-4B138231 Can someone forward the information on how to sign up for the NYC Motorcycle Show bus trip to me? Also, are there any cruiser types on this e-mail list, or is it primarily for sportbike/racing types? Thanx for the info! JM Jim Maier maier@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 14:14:25 2000 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 14:12:35 -0500 From: Nelson Fernandez Organization: Production Technology, Inc. X-Accept-Language: en To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: SV Question Danny (Thompson) and I are talking about getting together this weekend to rejet his SV and was wondering if anyone out there knows what size jets they are putting in the stage one kits for the 99 SV? Sure would save us a lot of trial and error if we had a starting point. Thanks Nelson -- Nelson Fernandez Network Administrator Production Technology, Inc. 2231 Crystal Drive Suite 815 Arlington, VA 22202 Phone 703.271.9055 Fax 703.271.9059 www. http://www.pti.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 14:52:09 2000 From: "Danny Thompson" To: Subject: NYC Motorcycle Show Trip Update Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 14:51:58 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Just got a note from Anita, we need more people to got to NY. Come on guys, last years trip was great and I know this year will be good also. A thought... my wife and I and some friends that are going are planning on attending an afternoon Broadway play (James Joyce's "The Dead"). They start at 2:00 and you can usually get good seats for ~$25.00 if you plan ahead a bit. Let's fill the bus up. People always bring good videos and Anita does a bang up job of planning. (See below for more information) Danny '99 VFR '99 SV >From Anita Lauro: NYC Motorcycle Show Trip!! Okay, the deposit has been put down on the bus, and all systems are go. I'm ready to start collecting money! Here are the details:? ? WHAT: International Motorcycle Show, Jacob Javitts Convention Center, NY, NY.? WHEN: Saturday, February 5th, 2000.? TIME: Depart Washington DC at 7:30 AM, return approximately 12 midnight.? HOW: Travel in style in a luxury "motorcoach" complete with restroom and VCR/TV's.? COST: $45.00 per person. This includes round-trip bus transportation, gratuity for the driver and admission to the show. Donuts, sodas and snacks will also be provided.? EXTRAS: The planned departure time has been moved up 30 minutes so we can make a 12:30 pm departure of the Circle Line Tour. This is a really fun sightseeing tour around Manhattan Island. It is a great way to see the sights (including the Statue of Liberty), and is $22 for a 3-hour trip. This will be completely optional, and you will buy your own ticket at the departure pier (which is only a few blocks from the convention center).? PAYMENT: Send your payment (personal check, please) to: Anita Lauro, 227 Greenfield Court, Sterling, VA 20164. I will not deposit the checks until I have at least 30 people going. Please put your email address on your check so I can keep you apprised of our progress.? DEADLINE: I must receive payment by Friday, January 7th, 2000. I will be ordering the show tickets then, and if your payment is received after that date you will need to wait in line at the convention center to buy your own ticket. Take it from me, those lines are very long! Also, so far I have gotten a lot of responses, so it is very possible we will fill up the bus this year! Get your payments in early to reserve your spot!? For more info on the Circle Line you can check out:? {HYPERLINK "http://www.circleline.com"}http://www.circleline.com? For more info on the motorcycle show:? {HYPERLINK "http://www.motorcycleshows.com"}http://www.motorcycleshows.com? And the bus line:? {HYPERLINK "http://www.nationalcoachinc.com"}http://www.nationalcoachinc.com? ? Any questions, please feel free to email me at alauro@XXXXXX.? ? Thanks, and hope to see you all in February!? Anita ? From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 15:08:50 2000 From: "Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM" To: "'Danny Thompson'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: NYC Motorcycle Show Trip Update Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 15:08:17 -0500 Anita probably could have gotten more people to go if she had planned Phila instead of NYC. NYC is quite a hike for a day trip even if it is on a bus. Just a thought Glenn -----Original Message----- >Just got a note from Anita, we need more people to got to NY. Come on guys, >last years trip was great and I know this year will be good also. A >thought... my wife and I and some friends that are going are planning on >attending an afternoon Broadway play (James Joyce's "The Dead"). They start >at 2:00 and you can usually get good seats for ~$25.00 if you plan ahead a >bit. Let's fill the bus up. People always bring good videos and Anita does a >bang up job of planning. (See below for more information) From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 15:33:55 2000 From: "Danny Thompson" To: Subject: Re: NYC Motorcycle Show Trip Update Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 15:33:51 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Glenn, et al. The thing about the NY tirp is that it offers other things more than just the show. The Javits Center in right on the island in the middle of everything with lots of tourist type things to do. I don't know about the Philly show as far as other options. Plus since it went so well last year (I didn't think it was that bad even for just the day) I think it made sense to plan it again. Danny '99 VFR '99 SV ----- Original Message ----- From: Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM To: 'Danny Thompson' ; Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 3:08 PM Subject: RE: NYC Motorcycle Show Trip Update > Anita probably could have gotten more people to go if she had planned Phila > instead of NYC. NYC is quite a hike for a day trip even if it is on a bus. > > Just a thought > > Glenn > > -----Original Message----- > > > >Just got a note from Anita, we need more people to got to NY. Come on guys, > >last years trip was great and I know this year will be good also. A > >thought... my wife and I and some friends that are going are planning on > >attending an afternoon Broadway play (James Joyce's "The Dead"). They start > >at 2:00 and you can usually get good seats for ~$25.00 if you plan ahead a > >bit. Let's fill the bus up. People always bring good videos and Anita does > a > >bang up job of planning. (See below for more information) > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 16:56:26 2000 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:56:22 -0800 (PST) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Cruiser types? To: maier@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- Jim Maier wrote: > Also, are there any cruiser types on this e-mail > list, or is it primarily > for sportbike/racing types? Once in a while there are, but they just can't seem to stay lurking, when they start talking about riding with guns or without helmets, we run them off. :-) Leon. Ninja 250, member NRA and AMA. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 17:27:01 2000 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:22:14 -0500 (EST) From: Tansey To: Leon Begeman cc: maier@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cruiser types? On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Leon Begeman wrote: > --- Jim Maier wrote: > > Also, are there any cruiser types on this e-mail > > list, or is it primarily > > for sportbike/racing types? > > Once in a while there are, but they just can't seem to > stay lurking, when they start talking about riding > with guns or without helmets, we run them off. :-) > > Leon. > Ninja 250, member NRA and AMA. Feh! I'm still here. Shannon Virago 535, member of neither (yet) From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 18:31:52 2000 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 15:31:39 -0800 (PST) From: Le Park Subject: Leathers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I'm looking to get some leathers. I do mostly street riding, but would like to do 1 or 2 track days a year. From what I know most tracks require a full suit or if it's a 2 piece the top and bottom must zip together all the way around the waist. I think the best bet would be a 2 piece leather suit which zips together all the way around the waist and has ventilation. The cheapest suit I have found which has all the features I want is the AGV Sport II 2 piece suit. I can wear the top for casual street riding along with kevlar jeans, while using the bottom for more aggressive street riding or track days. What are people's opinions? Is there a better suit/jacket for all around riding and an occasional track day? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 18:47:41 2000 From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 18:47:07 EST Subject: Re: Cruiser types? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I'm one of the few cruiser types lurking on the list. Haven't been reading all the posts lately, so I missed any references to cruisers in the past few weeks. I'm not the gun-toting, helmet-hating type of cruiser rider though! =8^O Rob VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 19:15:25 2000 Reply-To: From: "Jim Maier" To: Subject: RE: cruiser types Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:18:24 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-SLUIDL: BF8E0590-C06E11D3-ACCF0010-4B138231 Hey there! Thanx for all the replies to my inquiry about the motorcycle show. And for a little background on me: I am in the process of relocating from Austin, TX to Arlington, VA - so I suppose I ride in Texas right now, but that will change just as soon as my belongings (including my motorcycle) get shipped up this way. (I am commuting between Austin and Arlington at present). I ride a 1997 Suzuki Intruder 1400 as much as time, weather, and career permit (approx 14K miles since I bought it in Dec 1997 - not nearly enough!). Am an AMA member. Not an NRA member - disagree with extremists on both side of the whole gun control argument, but am very open minded (amazing, I know, for a recent Texan). Subscribe to the philosophy that government is necessary, although its implementation could use some serious adjustments - the alternatives to government are wholly unappealing. I hate helmet laws, but acknowledge the wisdom of wearing a helmet, even if I don't much of the time. (What are the VA, MD, DC laws about helmets? Any flak jacket laws in DC? ;-} ) Have taken both MSF courses, and will be looking to take the beginning course again just for a refresher. Stats: 6'3" Tall 195 pounds Strawberry blond hair, blue eyes. Undergraduate degree from Washington University in St. Louis MBA from the University of Texas at Austin Work for an internet startup in Arlington. Have Harley envy for some reason. So now you know about as much about me as I do. Am planning on making the motorcycle show trip to NYC if I can get my check in before Jan 7th. Look forward to meeting, greeting, and riding. Take care! JM Jim Maier maier@XXXXXX > -----Original Message----- > From: taw [mailto:t-a-w@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 5:40 PM > To: maier@XXXXXX > Subject: cruiser types > > > HI Jim, > I ride a cruiser. Mostly the forum is for sport riders but I > occasionally learn something useful. What do you ride and where? > Tom > > --- Jim Maier wrote: > > Also, are there any cruiser types on this e-mail > > list, or is it primarily > > for sportbike/racing types? > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com > > dc-cycles@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 19:26:00 2000 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 19:16:33 -0500 From: Bill Huson To: NJitzul@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cruiser types? I reckon I'm a sort of a cruiser type. Definition being the relitively upright seated position and feetsies forward of *nuetral*, whereas a sportbike has feetsies rearward of nuetral and a fuel tank kissing rider position. Always wear a Snell 95 helmet, never owned a gun, but I do have a big-ass K-Bar knife I use for a camp axe. Bill NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: > > > I'm one of the few cruiser types lurking on the list. Haven't been reading > all the posts lately, so I missed any references to cruisers in the past few > weeks. I'm not the gun-toting, helmet-hating type of cruiser rider though! > =8^O > > Rob VanSlyke > 83 Shadow 750 "Swamp Thing" From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 19:30:30 2000 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:29:50 EST Subject: Re: Info on NYC/ Motorcycle Show Trip To: maier@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 1/3/2000 1:22:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, maier@XXXXXX writes: << Can someone forward the information on how to sign up for the NYC Motorcycle Show bus trip to me? Also, are there any cruiser types on this e-mail list, or is it primarily for sportbike/racing types? Thanx for the info! JM >> Here you go. Anita's getting worried. She only has twelve signed up so far. Okay, the deposit has been put down on the bus, and all systems are go. I'm ready to start collecting money! Here are the details: WHAT: International Motorcycle Show, Jacob Javitts Convention Center, NY, NY. WHEN: Saturday, February 5th, 2000. TIME: Depart Washington DC at 7:30 AM, return approximately 12 midnight. HOW: Travel in style in a luxury "motorcoach" complete with restroom and VCR/TV's. COST: $45.00 per person. This includes round-trip bus transportation, gratuity for the driver and admission to the show. Donuts, sodas and snacks will also be provided. EXTRAS: The planned departure time has been moved up 30 minutes so we can make a 12:30 pm departure of the Circle Line Tour. This is a really fun sightseeing tour around Manhattan Island. It is a great way to see the sights (including the Statue of Liberty), and is $22 for a 3-hour trip. This will be completely optional, and you will buy your own ticket at the departure pier (which is only a few blocks from the convention center). PAYMENT: Send your payment (personal check, please) to: Anita Lauro, 227 Greenfield Court, Sterling, VA 20164. I will not deposit the checks until I have at least 30 people going. Please put your email address on your check so I can keep you apprised of the latest developments. DEADLINE: I must receive payment by Friday, January 7th, 2000. I will be ordering the show tickets then, and if your payment is received after that date you will need to wait in line at the convention center to buy your own ticket. Take it from me, those lines are very long! Also, so far I have gotten a lot of responses, so it is very possible we will fill up the bus this year! Get your payments in early to reserve your spot! For more info on the Circle Line you can check out: http://www.circleline.com For more info on the motorcycle show: http://www.motorcycleshows.com And the bus line: http://www.nationalcoachinc.com Any questions, please feel free to email me! Thanks, and hope to see you all in February! Anita PS - Please feel free to pass this along to anyone you think might be interested! Coworkers, spouses, significant others, relatives, any and all are welcome! Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 19:35:53 2000 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:35:14 EST Subject: Re: Leathers To: l_park@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Check out Colleen's site at www.leatherexchange.com. She's a "fellow" lister who buys and sells new and used leathers. And, she's close enough, and nice enough, to allow you to go to her house to try on/see something in person. Scooter In a message dated 1/3/2000 6:39:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, l_park@XXXXXX writes: << I'm looking to get some leathers. I do mostly street riding, but would like to do 1 or 2 track days a year. >> From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 19:39:12 2000 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:38:32 EST Subject: Re: cruiser types To: maier@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Welcome to the list and the area. And yes, helmets are required equipment here although flak jackets are not. Unless you plan on riding in a certain couple blocks in SE. ;-) Scooter In a message dated 1/3/2000 7:19:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, maier@XXXXXX writes: << I hate helmet laws, but acknowledge the wisdom of wearing a helmet, even if I don't much of the time. (What are the VA, MD, DC laws about helmets? Any flak jacket laws in DC? ;-} ) >> From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 20:08:47 2000 From: BryanRoach@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:08:04 EST Subject: Re: Cruiser types? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 1/3/00 5:00:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, mriderleon@XXXXXX writes: > > Also, are there any cruiser types on this e-mail > > list, or is it primarily > > for sportbike/racing types? I'm defiantly the cruiser type... rode my FXDL to work today in this wonderful weather, couldn't think of a better way to get there... Ok, so maybe riding the Ducati would be just as good.... but the Harley won the coin toss this morning :) There are all types on the list including some people who will ride just about anything on two wheels, as is defiantly the case when it comes to myself. - Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 20:13:31 2000 From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:12:16 EST Subject: Philadelphia MC show To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I plan on going to the Philly show because it is a bit closer and I have place to stay just across the river in Wilmington. Any who wish to join me for the ride up are welcome. And since there is plenty of floor space you are welcome to throw a sleeping bag on the floor of my wife's one bedroom apartment . Iwould head up Saturday Am, spend the day a the show, spend the night, and head home Sun. All this is dependent on semi-decent weather. I don't do snow or freezing rain. Bob From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 20:16:15 2000 From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:15:34 EST Subject: Re: cruiser types To: maier@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Welcome to the list and the area! A flak vest isn't required in DC as long as you're quick on the throttle. ;) Helmets are required in DC, MD, and VA though. Rob From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 21:01:44 2000 From: JThorne21@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:01:08 EST Subject: ATTN Jonathon Broga To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, sv650@XXXXXX --part1_0.72964290.25a2ae64_boundary Hey, I will take those leathers. Drop me a line at JThorne21@XXXXXX please..... --part1_0.72964290.25a2ae64_boundary Content-Disposition: inline From: JThorne21@XXXXXX Full-name: JThorne21 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:37:21 EST Subject: Used leathers. To: SABMAG@XXXXXX In a message dated 1/3/00 1:31:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, Carl.Custer@XXXXXX writes: << FWIW, $150 looks like a bargain for scuffed leathers. Subject: AGV Leathers for Sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, sv650@XXXXXX Any new racers - Have you bought leathers yet? I have only raced one season in mine and I am selling them cheap. They are size 46 AGV Rage in white red and black. Let me know if you or anyone you know is looking for leathers. I only went down once in them, a graceful lowside in T6 at Summit, no structural damage to suit, but some cosmetic damage on the ass from the slide. Doesn't effect protection at all. Selling for $150 plus shipping if not local. (DC Area) Jonathan Broga JEM Racing '99 SV650X - WERA Expert #502 Sponsored by: http://www.speed-werks.com http://www.centurypool.com >> OHOHOH OH OH OH !!!!!!! I need em!!!! How do I get in touch with the guy????????? --part1_0.72964290.25a2ae64_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 3 22:02:50 2000 From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:02:11 EST Subject: Re: Re: Leathers To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX As usual, thanks Scooter. Something is sporadically wrong with my dot com address, so any leather lookers should use the old address, which is: http://members.aol.com/motorle Colleen >Check out Colleen's site at www.leatherexchange.com. She's a "fellow" lister >who buys and sells new and used leathers. And, she's close enough, and nice >enough, to allow you to go to her house to try on/see something in person. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 4 02:12:20 2000 From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Re: Cruiser types? Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 02:11:27 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01BF5659.020F52E0 >From the digest******** Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:22:14 -0500 (EST) From: Tansey Subject: Re: Cruiser types? On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Leon Begeman wrote: > --- Jim Maier wrote: > > Also, are there any cruiser types on this e-mail > > list, or is it primarily > > for sportbike/racing types? > > Once in a while there are, but they just can't seem to > stay lurking, when they start talking about riding > with guns or without helmets, we run them off. :-) > > Leon. > Ninja 250, member NRA and AMA. Feh! I'm still here. Shannon Virago 535, member of neither (yet) ******** Sans onboard gun, never without helmet, I dance not run -- and with thoughts on the last month of cruiser riding: Life resources saved shopping on a bike vice cage -- Parking in little spaces close to destination -- 3 hrs Traffic avoidance through appropriate lane creation (some might = call it filtering) -- 3 hrs Various fees avoided (parking) -- probably $25=20 Salesperson attention to biker (carrying helmet) -- 1 hr Bad weather inconvenience -- rescheduled a couple of events All told -- MC travel paid for Millenium celebration (admittedly not = Trump caliber). =20 Bill S. / DC=20 99 VN750 "Cruiser"? Better "Stealth Shopper". =20 Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01BF5659.020F52E0

From the digest********

Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:22:14 -0500 = (EST)
From:=20 Tansey <tansey@XXXXXX>=
Subject:=20 Re: Cruiser types?

On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Leon Begeman = wrote:

>=20 --- Jim Maier <maier@XXXXXX>=20 wrote:
> > Also, are there any cruiser types on this = e-mail
>=20 > list, or is it primarily
> > for sportbike/racing=20 types?
>
> Once in a while there are, but they just can't = seem=20 to
> stay lurking, when they start talking about riding
> = with guns=20 or without helmets, we run them off. :-)
>
> = Leon.
>=20 Ninja 250, member NRA and AMA.

Feh! I'm still=20 here.

Shannon
Virago 535, member of neither (yet)

********

Sans onboard gun, never without helmet, = I dance not=20 run --

and with thoughts on the last month of = cruiser=20 riding:

Life resources saved = shopping on=20 a bike vice cage --

Parking=20 in little spaces close to destination -- 3 hrs

Traffic=20 avoidance through appropriate lane creation (some might call it = filtering) -- 3=20 hrs

= Various fees=20 avoided (parking) -- probably $25

Salesperson = attention to=20 biker (carrying helmet) -- 1 hr

Bad = weather=20 inconvenience -- rescheduled a couple of events

All told -- MC = travel paid for=20 Millenium celebration (admittedly not Trump caliber). =

Bill S. / DC

99 VN750 "Cruiser"? Better = "Stealth=20 Shopper".
Join the AMA. Help protect my riding=20 fun.

------=_NextPart_000_002A_01BF5659.020F52E0-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 4 06:28:15 2000 From: "Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM" To: maier@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Cruiser types? Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:27:45 -0500 I ride a cruiser, well every once and a while. Glenn 84 V30 Magna -----Original Message----- > Also, are there any cruiser types on this e-mail > list, or is it primarily > for sportbike/racing types? From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 4 06:56:33 2000 From: rcrishoc@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 06:56:17 -0500 Subject: cruisin'... on a Sunday afternoon Content-Disposition: inline Jim wrote... >are there any cruiser types on this e-mail list, or is it primarily >for sportbike/racing types? Some of us ride retro-naked-quasi-commuter-sub-sport-non-tourers, sometimes referred to as "standards." ;) Rich '78 Triumph Bonneville '99 Enfield Bullet http://users.starpower.net/eboc/ Sterling, VA From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 4 07:35:09 2000 From: knapik@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:34:44 -0500 Subject: Re.: Curiser types Content-Disposition: inline Suspend lurk mode: Yeah, no guns and lots of helmets........ '83 Honda CX650C Re-engage lurk mode: Regards, Tom Knapik E-mail: knapik@XXXXXX Phone: (301) 803-2417, tie-262-2417 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 4 08:13:44 2000 From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" Cc: "'l_park@XXXXXX'" Subject: Leathers Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 08:12:57 -0500 Le Park said, "I'm looking to get some leathers. I do mostly street riding, but would like to do 1 or 2 track days a year." Several folks on the SabMag list have been happy with: http://www.linkamerica.com/mc.html After the first few individuals raved about the deals, a bunch did a group purchase. Me? I'm still happy with my 'Stitch. Carl in Bethesda Here's one review: - Leather Racing Suit As promised in a previous post, here's a review of my new leather racing suit. I bought the suit on eBay (Dutch Auction, $250) but it's also available on the LinkAmerica site posted by RW ($185 - $229 depending on volume): http://www.linkamerica.com/3_racing_leather.html (for a bigger picture, visit http://http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=tale xx and click the item # w/ the title "Motorcycle Racing Leathers suit 7~stylesDUTCH" For those too lazy to check it out, I quote the following description: "top quality very thick 1.3 mm drum dyed pre-curved racing leather construction, fortified stitching, knee/shoulder/elbow armor (all removable and replaceable) ... racing style collar and side ventilation perforations". I chose the White/Blue/Black 2-pc suit. The predominantly white color is cooler and improves visibility. And, IMHO, it looks bitchin' and is figure flattering to boot! A female friend opined "It gives you massive shoulders and a tiny butt" - worth $250 just for that :-). After only a few hundred miles, I can't speak for it's long term durability, but I haven't discovered any production flaws so far (it *was* made in Pakistan, but whether by myopic females as DR speculated, I can't say). The jacket and pants are fully lined with a polyester mesh. No quilted material or zip out linings, etc.; it's not made for cold weather, however, its been comfortable down to 60 F. with just a t-shirt and short-sleeved dress shirt on under it. I haven't noticed much benefit from the perforations under the arms - in normal riding position, the only time I feel a noticeable breeze there is when I wave at an oncoming biker. For the pants, the back of the waist and the legs above the knees have stretch panels. There's only one small pocket inside the jacket and none in the pants (it ain't no 'stitch! - I guess racers don't need to carry much). The jacket fits snugly - no room for multiple layers under it, 'tho I'd guess there's room for an electric vest over a thin turtleneck or summat - when it gets colder, I intend to transfer the armor to my Bad-Ass black leather jacket which should look OK w/ the leather pants. Of course, you could order the next size larger suit, but bear in mind that, although 2-pc., the pants and jacket are sold as a unit (something about the lengths of the zippers connecting the 2 pieces), so you'd get bigger pants, too. The sizing does not favor slimmer than average people (my pants are rather large in the waist; fortunately, zipping them to the jacket will prevent me from ever becoming a bare-assed biker dude ), nor, I suspect, does it favor significantly larger than average body builds. All in all, I'm quite pleased and feel much better protected ('tho I hope never to put it to the crash test). BEADED SEAT PAD The stock seat on Pegasus is pretty comfortable for an hour or so; after that, numb butt starts to set in big time. Cheap bar steward that I am, I decided to try one of those wooden beaded seat pads - after all; half-a-million NYC cabbies can't be all wrong. The pads are made by Cycle Crafts (800) 770-2689 in IN (they also make sheepskin covers). They used to have a web site, but they're no longer handling mail order directly. They are being distributed by Morton's BMW in Spotsylvania, VA (540) 891-9844. $14.95 + $6 S&H. I've tried my pad both with the leathers and just jeans and been impressed so far, although I haven't tried it for Iron Butt distance yet (100 miles is the farthest). It allows some air circulation so could prove cooler in summer; in the rain, it might even help eliminate the "damp crotch" syndrome which has been discussed recently. Pad doesn't come in black; I bought a "natural" one but plan to spray paint it. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 4 10:01:59 2000 From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 09:25:20 -0500 Subject: RE: Scary... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMERICAS-US@INTL Pretty badly, judging from the wheelbase. Chris From: Jason Picton Yeah, but how well does it corner. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 4 10:53:51 2000 From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: cruisin'... on a Sunday afternoon Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:53:43 -0800 >Some of us ride retro-naked-quasi-commuter-sub-sport-non-tourers, sometimes >referred to as "standards." I have one of those (almost. But you gotta remove the "non" before tourer. Michael J. '93 GSX 1100G '86 SRX-6 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 4 11:03:30 2000 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:03:20 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: cruisin'... on a Sunday afternoon Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 rcrishoc@XXXXXX wrote: > Some of us ride retro-naked-quasi-commuter-sub-sport-non-tourers, > sometimes referred to as "standards." Long live the standard! If they don't make one you like, make your own... Honda didn't make quite what I wanted and a crashed bike showed up for cheap so I made a naked VTR. Someday I'll actually finish making it look good. For now, I'll just ride it... Kirk 2000 Kawasaki KLX300 (http://dirtrider.net/planetklx/) 1998 Honda VTR1000 (http://members.nova.org/~kirk/Kirk1.jpg) From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 4 11:07:40 2000 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 08:07:25 -0800 (PST) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: North West Passage Rally (fwd) Just in case someone wants to go on a long ride to go on a long ride. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 16:47:59 PST From: david donnelly To: hsta@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX Subject: North West Passage Rally For those interested in endurance riding as well, this is the URL to the NW Passage Rally, a 3 day event, being held for the first time this year. http://www.oz.net/~zldrider/northwestpassage/NEWMain.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ The VF/VFR mailing list--see http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~john/vfr-list/ for subscribe/unsubscribe, policy and archive information. From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 4 13:42:44 2000 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:42:40 -0800 (PST) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Philadelphia MC show To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I also plan to attend the Philly show. I'll be going up on Saturday, unless something changes, I'll be coming back on Saturday evening. Leon. --- McKeithen@XXXXXX wrote: > I plan on going to the Philly show because it is a > bit closer and I have > place to stay just across the river in Wilmington. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 4 19:45:35 2000 X-Apparently-From: From: "Brian McCoy" To: Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 01/04/00 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:48:34 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Must be something with the name... I'll ride whatever I can manage to get a leg over (er.. umm.. motorcycle wise. heh, Collin?) - Been on cruisers (Brians HD down there), standards, sport tourers, and full-on racebikes.. As long as it goes, has 2 wheels, and I'm in control.. it's for me. Brian McCoy - MMI Phoenix (what the hell am I STILL doing on DC-Cyles.. heh.. :) > Ok, so maybe riding the Ducati would be just as good.... but the > Harley won > the coin toss this morning :) > > There are all types on the list including some people who will ride just > about anything on two wheels, as is defiantly the case when it comes to > myself. > > - Brian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 5 09:35:15 2000 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:35:09 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 01/04/00 Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Brian McCoy wrote: > As long as it goes, has 2 wheels, and I'm in control.. it's for me. I'm having trouble buying your last requirement ("in control")... :) Kirk 2000 Kawasaki KLX300 (http://dirtrider.net/planetklx/) 1998 Honda VTR1000 (http://members.nova.org/~kirk/Kirk1.jpg) From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 5 10:40:15 2000 From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" Cc: "'maier@XXXXXX'" Subject: cruiser types Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:39:27 -0500 Jim Maier posted, "I am in the process of relocating from Austin, TX to Arlington, VA . . ." Mucho sympathy; prepare yourself for cultural shock. "Undergraduate degree from Washington University in St. Louis" Oh, you've lived outside of Texas so are familiar with foreign cultures. ;^) Excellent school. "Have Harley envy for some reason." Musta been the TU degree :^> Cheap advice from another Texan: BBQ: folks here think it's supposed to be made with pig; some is good tho. But, when you need a fix: The Rib Pit (14th & Randolph NW) has excellent smoked brisket (take out only) as does O'Brien's in Gaithersburg. Most of the others bake meat in an oven (RW&B) or stew it in a sauce (Dixie) and claim it's BBQ. 8^p Traffic: Pretend you're visiting Houston; then it's a piece of cake. Also, no one has thrown bottles or cinder blocks from their pick up (but I don't ride a lot in rural VA) "1997 Suzuki Intruder 1400" Others can advise you on Coleman PS service. "gun control" Shotguns are required for squirrel hunting ; haven't fired a rifle since arriving in 1972 . The deer are bigger . . . and close to the local roads. "approx 14K miles since I bought it in Dec 1997" Probably more to see close by up here: The BRP & Skyway are cruiser friendly (~100 mi.); NC portions (~300 mi.) are great. Deal's Gap, (~500 mi.) everybody should go at least once. Warm up on the BRP, chill on I 81 or Rt. 29 back. West Virginia (~100 mi.), thanks to geology and Senator Byrd, has great roads. SE Ohio, Hocking Hills, (~300 mi.) is amazing. I-68 or Rt. 50 twixt here and there are nice cruising roads. NY finger lakes (~300 mi.) Myrtle Beach, SC (~450 mi.) has a cruiser fest in the spring. " . . .wearing a helmet . . ." Merryland was the last hold out around here. Ohio, IIRC, is the closest non-helmet state. Pennsy? Make the best of it: Get a quite helmet, install earphones, tune in Eddy Stubbs (Classic Honky Tonk) and Jerry Gray (Classic Western) on Sattidy afternoons noon to 6:00; WAMU 88.5. Carl S. Custer (TAMC '62) Bethesda, MD Commuting into your nation's capital since 1981 through rain, sun, and snow, but no ice! '85 VF700S "Rocin-ahorito" '80 GS450E "Caballoante"; 1997 AeroStich Roadcrafter "Fred the Red"; FOM #3, AMA 676120; FOO/FOP; OGM #008; FMOENMC #0002 From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 5 11:44:25 2000 X-Originating-IP: [208.197.3.43] From: "Donnie Biser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: First gear products Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 08:43:52 PST Hello all, I've decided that the jean/thermal combo won't be adequate for winter riding, and I'm considering buying something a little warmer. Anyone have experience with first gears products? My local shop has a one piece riding suit (Sort of like a snowmobile suit) for around $160. Any thoughts? TIA Donnie rf600 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 5 11:54:08 2000 From: Jeannette.Zell@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Donnie Biser" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:46:13 -0500 Subject: Re: First gear products Content-Disposition: inline I love First Gear and would recommend it highly. I've worn their jackets and leather pants and they are very warm and very durable. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Donnie Biser" on 01/05/2000 11:43:52 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: Subject: First gear products Hello all, I've decided that the jean/thermal combo won't be adequate for winter riding, and I'm considering buying something a little warmer. Anyone have experience with first gears products? My local shop has a one piece riding suit (Sort of like a snowmobile suit) for around $160. Any thoughts? TIA Donnie rf600 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 5 12:10:27 2000 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 12:09:20 -0500 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: RE: First gear products To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I'm using the Kilomanjaro First Gear jacket (fleece liner not zipped in) with a Gerbing liner plus First Gear rain pants over my jeans - no thermals. Let's just say I'm still waiting for it to get cold enough to turn on my jacket. I think I've had it on twice so far and that was mostly because fog is cold. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 5 12:18:53 2000 X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 12:18:15 -0500 To: "Donnie Biser" From: Troutman Subject: Re: First gear products Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX At 11:43 AM 1/5/00 , Donnie Biser wrote: > >Hello all, >I've decided that the jean/thermal combo won't be adequate for winter >riding, and I'm considering buying something a little warmer. >Anyone have experience with first gears products? >My local shop has a one piece riding suit (Sort of like a snowmobile suit) >for around $160. >Any thoughts? I have the Kenya FG Jacket $240 (short one - like Kilimanjaro) and recently picked up the bib style FG pants ($100) and I love them both. Jacket is cool in the summer (up to the high 90s) and I am warm well into the high teens. Can't wear the pants in the summer though...they are insulated. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 Eat right. Stay fit. Die anyway. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 5 12:21:34 2000 From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 12:20:59 EST Subject: Phila MC show info To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX WWW.motorcycleshows.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 5 13:38:49 2000 X-Originating-IP: [208.197.3.43] From: "Donnie Biser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Thanks! Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 10:38:16 PST Looks like I'll be doing some shopping tonight, and be a heck of a lot warmer tomorrow! Thanks again, Donnie rf600 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 5 14:50:54 2000 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 14:49:48 -0500 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: RE: First gear products To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX My only complaint on the jacket is that it steals. I have $10 in a pocket and I can't find it. And I once lost my checkbook in one of the pockets - took a week to find it. Soooo many pockets. :) From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 5 15:24:55 2000 From: FGrefe@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:24:16 EST Subject: Re: First gear products To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 1/5/00 11:48:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, dbiserjr@XXXXXX writes: > Anyone have experience with first gears products? > My local shop has a one piece riding suit (Sort of like a snowmobile suit) > for around $160. > Any thoughts? The new Rider magazine has a comparison between about 15 riding suits. Stop by your local magazine library (Barnes & Noble) and take a look. Fred Grefe From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 5 16:16:04 2000 X-Originating-IP: [204.193.255.42] From: "Doug Allis" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: First gear products Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 13:15:31 PST I have a Firstgear 2 piece Kilmanjaro jacket and Firstgear pants. I ride very day. Pants: Elastic in pants weakened prety quickly. Its either the heat or my wide 36 inch waist. I had the elastic replaced by a seamstress. Works ok now. Jacket: Lots of pockets, nice and warm. Perhaps too warm for summer. Good reflective stuff on back. Overall its about as functional and well made as you can get at a reasonable price, but I don't think its the best looking and its sort of stiff.... I still prefer leathers for most any day that its not too cold or not raining. >From: "Donnie Biser" >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: First gear products >Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 08:43:52 PST > > >Hello all, >I've decided that the jean/thermal combo won't be adequate for winter >riding, and I'm considering buying something a little warmer. >Anyone have experience with first gears products? >My local shop has a one piece riding suit (Sort of like a snowmobile suit) >for around $160. >Any thoughts? > >TIA >Donnie >rf600 > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 5 17:19:26 2000 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 17:16:39 -0500 From: JEM Broga Subject: My AGV leathers To: sv650@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_PeKx7s42pNPqm6dfqflutQ) To all who wrote me about the leathers - Sorry I could not respond to all of you - we have a new email server = at work, and I can get mail but for the life me cannot figure out how to = send it (the configurations are goofy) So anyway, I couldn't reply if I = was checking my personal email from work. I have notified the first few = guys who responded, and I assume one of them will be buying it. Thank = you for all the responses. Jonathan Broga JEM Racing '99 SV650X - CCS#500 Sponsored by: http://www.speed-werks.com http://www.centurypool.com --Boundary_(ID_PeKx7s42pNPqm6dfqflutQ)

To all who wrote me about the leathers=20 -

Sorry I could not = respond to all=20 of you - we have a new email server at work, and I can get mail but for = the life=20 me cannot figure out how to send it (the configurations are goofy) So = anyway, I=20 couldn't reply if I was checking my personal email from work. I have = notified=20 the first few guys who responded, and I assume one of them will be = buying it.=20 Thank you for all the responses.

Jonathan Broga
JEM Racing
'99 = SV650X -=20 CCS#500

Sponsored by:
http://www.speed-werks.com
http://www.centurypool.com

--Boundary_(ID_PeKx7s42pNPqm6dfqflutQ)-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 5 17:35:48 2000 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:35:44 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Re: Leathers To: Le Park , dc-cycles@XXXXXX I've been happy with my First Gear Stealth jacket and pants as all-around gear, and they zip together if you do the occasional track day (I haven't yet). The jacket has thick leather, soft armor, vents for summer and a great liner with "Thermoneck" collar for winter. The pants have armor but no vents. Make it waterproof with a rain suit. Sean Sullivan --- Le Park wrote: > I'm looking to get some leathers. I do mostly > street riding, but would like to do 1 or 2 track > days > a year. From what I know most tracks require a full > suit or if it's a 2 piece the top and bottom must > zip > together all the way around the waist. I think the > best bet would be a 2 piece leather suit which zips > together all the way around the waist and has > ventilation. The cheapest suit I have found which > has > all the features I want is the AGV Sport II 2 piece > suit. I can wear the top for casual street riding > along with kevlar jeans, while using the bottom for > more aggressive street riding or track days. What > are > people's opinions? Is there a better suit/jacket > for > all around riding and an occasional track day? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 5 17:39:05 2000 From: Cedric Bernescut Reply-To: "bernescut@XXXXXX" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: RE: First gear products Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:34:46 -0500 Organization: NCEA I have the First Gear Scout. I've had it for over four years and I wear it year round. Right now I have the liner inside it and I am rarely cold, although I do bundle up with a sweater, too. I wear Motoport pants over my dress pants and only wear the top half of my two piece First gear rainsuit over the Scout as the Motoport pants are as waterproof as I need around here with my short commute. I am very satisfied with the Scout, I once brought home a complete tune up kit in the pockets (oil, filter, plugs, etc.) because I forgot to bring the tank bag :O Cedric 1996 CBR600F3 AMA 663626 Annandale, VA "Brain cells come and brain cells go, but fat cells live forever." Hello all, I've decided that the jean/thermal combo won't be adequate for winter riding, and I'm considering buying something a little warmer. Anyone have experience with first gears products? My local shop has a one piece riding suit (Sort of like a snowmobile suit) for around $160. Any thoughts? TIA Donnie rf600 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Jan 6 00:10:02 2000 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:09:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ryan McClune Subject: Re: Leathers To: Le Park , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Hi, I'm new to the area, nice to meet you all. I didn't hear anyone mention anything about Dainese leathers. I have had a one peice Dainese suit for just over a year now and love it, just don't expect to do much other then riding in it. It is rather uncomfortable to walk around in. For that reason I was thinking of getting a nice two peice Dainese suit, any comments? Would like something others can see (i.e. not black) and would provide that, oh so much needed, protection when two objects try and occupy the same space at the same time. My experience with First Gear is that it is rather nice stuff but when you hold it up against a Dainese suit you do see a difference in quality and protection. comments? oh. . and btw I ride a '99 YZF R6, was blue and is now red. Anyone interested in some scuffed and cracked blue R6 fairings? --- Le Park wrote: > I'm looking to get some leathers. I do mostly > street riding, but would like to do 1 or 2 track > days > a year. From what I know most tracks require a full > suit or if it's a 2 piece the top and bottom must > zip > together all the way around the waist. I think the > best bet would be a 2 piece leather suit which zips > together all the way around the waist and has > ventilation. The cheapest suit I have found which > has > all the features I want is the AGV Sport II 2 piece > suit. I can wear the top for casual street riding > along with kevlar jeans, while using the bottom for > more aggressive street riding or track days. What > are > people's opinions? Is there a better suit/jacket > for > all around riding and an occasional track day? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Jan 6 09:10:50 2000 From: "Jordan, Michael" To: DC-Cycles Subject: Winter rider Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 06:10:38 -0800 You know you're a winter rider when a patch of sand on the road means traction. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jan 6 09:37:57 2000 From: Jeannette.Zell@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: Ryan McClune cc: Le Park , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:30:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Leathers Content-Disposition: inline My comment is, I WANT ONE! ...but I need the $$$$. I love Dainese. : ) - Jeannette http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Ryan McClune on 01/06/2000 12:09:27 AM To: Le Park , dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: Subject: Re: Leathers Hi, I'm new to the area, nice to meet you all. I didn't hear anyone mention anything about Dainese leathers. I have had a one peice Dainese suit for just over a year now and love it, just don't expect to do much other then riding in it. It is rather uncomfortable to walk around in. For that reason I was thinking of getting a nice two peice Dainese suit, any comments? Would like something others can see (i.e. not black) and would provide that, oh so much needed, protection when two objects try and occupy the same space at the same time. My experience with First Gear is that it is rather nice stuff but when you hold it up against a Dainese suit you do see a difference in quality and protection. comments? oh. . and btw I ride a '99 YZF R6, was blue and is now red. Anyone interested in some scuffed and cracked blue R6 fairings? --- Le Park wrote: > I'm looking to get some leathers. I do mostly > street riding, but would like to do 1 or 2 track > days > a year. From what I know most tracks require a full > suit or if it's a 2 piece the top and bottom must > zip > together all the way around the waist. I think the > best bet would be a 2 piece leather suit which zips > together all the way around the waist and has > ventilation. The cheapest suit I have found which > has > all the features I want is the AGV Sport II 2 piece > suit. I can wear the top for casual street riding > along with kevlar jeans, while using the bottom for > more aggressive street riding or track days. What > are > people's opinions? Is there a better suit/jacket > for > all around riding and an occasional track day? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Jan 6 10:12:53 2000 X-Sender: nsuesse@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:13:07 -0500 To: Ryan McClune From: Ned Suesse Subject: Re: Leathers Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Hi, I'm new to the area, nice to meet you all. > >I didn't hear anyone mention anything about >Dainese leathers. I have had a one peice >Dainese suit for just over a year now and >love it, just don't expect to do much other >then riding in it. It is rather uncomfortable >to walk around in. > >For that reason I was thinking of getting a >nice two peice Dainese suit, any comments? >Would like something others can see (i.e. not >black) and would provide that, oh so much needed, >protection when two objects try and occupy >the same space at the same time. > >My experience with First Gear is that it is >rather nice stuff but when you hold it up >against a Dainese suit you do see a difference >in quality and protection. > >comments? > > >oh. . and btw I ride a '99 YZF R6, was blue >and is now red. Anyone interested in some >scuffed and cracked blue R6 fairings? Hello Ryan- good to meet you. Not to say aerostich again, but my experience with them has been awesome. I think owning a stich for all-weather protection and leathers for nice days makes a great deal of sense- more than owning two pairs of leathers. I have a one piece roadcrafter that I love more with each passing day- because I can wear it over anything, put it on or off in 10 seconds (literally), and it is comfy and dry come rain or shine. The quality is second to none, and they are available in whatever color you want. That said, I want a set of Dainese Leathers to complement it. Ned Suesse 96 CBR 600 F3 94 XR 600 (just got!) From dc-cycles-request Thu Jan 6 10:44:56 2000 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 10:43 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Keiser Subject: Helmetless and First gear products To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX " . . .wearing a helmet . . ." Merryland was the last hold out around here. Ohio, IIRC, is the closest non-helmet state. Pennsy? Don't forget DE. Had the VFR in Dewey last summer and brought an extra bucket...doh! RE: First Gear I've used the First Gear Stealth Jacket and Polartec lined jeans combo for a number of years and have been pretty happy with them; but splurged this year for a 2 pc. Roadcrafter for some water protection and more warmth. YMMV. Rob 1998 VFR800 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jan 6 14:27:43 2000 From: "Haring, Seth" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Cap Hillites Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:27:07 -0500 Is there anybody on dc-cycles a professional on Cap Hill other than me? I am curious if there's anyone else out there... Seth From dc-cycles-request Thu Jan 6 15:58:15 2000 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:58:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Fwd: Leathers for Sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Thought maybe someone would be interested... contact them not me.. --- Ryan Chapin wrote: > Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:57:20 -0500 > To: marrcmembers@XXXXXX > From: Ryan Chapin > Subject: Leathers for Sale > > Hi Everybody, > > A friend of mine out in Colorado has been trying to sell her leathers > with little luck, so she asked me if I might be able to help her . . > . > > For Sale, Great for getting into racing! > > Fieldsheer Tora Two-Piece, Zip-Together, Leathers: > Practically Brand New, only worn a couple of times, never been down. > Men's size 42/52 > But can be worn by a woman, of course. Just as a guide, I'm 5'6", > 130 pounds and there's some room in there. > The main thing with size is I wouldn't go too much taller than my > height - maybe 1 or 2 inches. > White with Magenta accents. > Armor kit > > Asking $450 and will ship anywhere in the continental U.S. > > To contact me: (Note: It's 2 hours earlier here. And please no > calls after 9:30 p.m. my time.) > Home/eve. phone (970) 385-1886, work/day phone (970) 259-2680 > e-mail: mel_dallas@XXXXXX > Ask for Melissa. > > Ryan Chapin > President > Nuts & Bolts Interactive, Inc. > http://www.nbinteractive.com > 8720 Georgia Avenue Suite #804 > Silver Spring, MD 20910 > ph: 301.589.0296 > fx: 301.589.5782 > ===== Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Dixie Cycles Bell Helmets, and EBC Brakes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Jan 6 16:17:03 2000 X-Sender: RMEYER@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 16:03:44 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Radar Detector Question Has anyone ever used the Bel 945iM Cordless Motorcycle Radar Detector? Have any comments about it? I think Cycle mag did a test of this last year, but I haven't been able to find the issue. So if anyone has it, and would care to related Cycle's conclusion, I'd appreciate that, too. Thanks. ITW, Bob Meyer '92 ST1100 (Red STag), STOC #1157 ===================================================== People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to pick on rich women than biker gangs. From dc-cycles-request Thu Jan 6 17:25:42 2000 From: Jeannette.Zell@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: DC-Cycles Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:33:20 -0500 Subject: 2nd Annual DC Cycles Superbowl Party!!! Content-Disposition: inline It's official. We'll be holding the 2nd annual DC Cycles Superbowl party at our house in Arlington. We'd like to make this potluck, as I don't cook and Tom doesn't want to - ha ha. We'll have some munchies and drinks, but feel free to bring anything you'd like! Please RSVP to me to let me know you're coming and what you're bringing, if anything! : ) Where: 1220 S. Columbus St. (intersection of S. George Mason Drive & S. Columbus Street in Arlington) When: January 30, 2000 Time: 4:00PM - whenever (game starts at 6, be there early for "kitchen talk!") Directions to follow... We have 2 cats and 2 dogs, so if you're allergic, bring your medication! ; ) Our animals love people! : ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Thu Jan 6 19:17:13 2000 X-Apparently-From: From: "Brian McCoy" To: Subject: RE: 2nd Annual DC Cycles Superbowl Party!!! Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:19:30 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Ok, someone take a tape-recorder for me.. :( Oh, and make some rather insinuative comments towards that hot red-head who'll be standing right in the middle of the kitchen.. ;) And Todd... don't barge into the house screaming this year.. ;) Zeus might have better aim and a hell of a lot better grip. Instant pit-bull vascectomy.. Brian McCoy > From: Jeannette.Zell@XXXXXX > Time: 4:00PM - whenever (game starts at 6, be there early for "kitchen > talk!") > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Jan 6 19:25:50 2000 From: "Thomas and Jeannette" To: , "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: 2nd Annual DC Cycles Superbowl Party!!! Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:30:44 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 I'll be making chili once again as well... a time honored, Zell household, tradition that goes back a few years. I think everyone enjoyed it last year. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "DC-Cycles" Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 2:33 PM Subject: 2nd Annual DC Cycles Superbowl Party!!! > > > It's official. We'll be holding the 2nd annual DC Cycles Superbowl party at our > house in Arlington. > We'd like to make this potluck, as I don't cook and Tom doesn't want to - ha ha. > We'll have some munchies and drinks, but feel free to bring anything you'd like! > > Please RSVP to me to let me know you're coming and what you're bringing, if > anything! : ) > > Where: 1220 S. Columbus St. (intersection of S. George Mason Drive & S. > Columbus Street in Arlington) > When: January 30, 2000 > Time: 4:00PM - whenever (game starts at 6, be there early for "kitchen > talk!") > Directions to follow... > > We have 2 cats and 2 dogs, so if you're allergic, bring your medication! ; ) > Our animals love people! : ) > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Jan 6 20:22:10 2000 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:22:07 -0800 (PST) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Leathers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Tonights digest was the first I've read in a little over a week, so if I say something someone else already mentioned, forgive me....(also , I missed the original post, so I may be off topic a tad..) Dainese are nice, but I think they are over priced for the level of protection... As a racer, I've seen lots of different brands and several of them stand out as being some of the best ones.... Dainise, Vanson, Syed, Z-custom, and Barnacle Bills seem to be the most common of the "best" ones (I am skipping stuff like Kushitani, which usually are double price from these). Fieldsheer makes some decent models too. If you go with something like AGV, only go with their top of the line.. hteir lower models are pretty much disposable suits.. they will protect you once, but that's about it... I wear a Vanson set but mostly because I got an incredible deal on the set I wear. If I was buying new, it would be Barnacle Bills most likely. He builds custom suits to fit you for about the same as the other companies off the rack prices... (About $800 for one of his suits). and they are top shelf from what I have seen. I've been very happy with my Vansons... Some pretty nasty spills out on the track this past season and they held up great... some scuffs here and there and that is it! Collin ===== Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Dixie Cycles Bell Helmets, and EBC Brakes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Jan 6 21:52:39 2000 From: "George Howell" To: "Bob Meyer" , Subject: RE: Radar Detector Question Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:47:48 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 One of the car mags compared one or two of the cordless optional radar detectors, and said you had better plug it in. It should be too hard to wire a small socket to the battery on a bike. As far as the 945iM specifically... Don't know. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 7 08:34:38 2000 X-Sender: nsuesse@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 08:35:12 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Ned Suesse Subject: Dual Sport Conversions Hello All, Well, I have done the deed and bought a 1994 XR 600, with the intention of riding it offroad but also eventually setting it up in supermotard style. To do this, of course, I need to get together quite a bit of wiring and so forth. My list of parts is below- I am wondering if anyone has any of this stuff that they want to sell. I am hoping to raid an old bike for much of the electronic components- voltage regulator, flasher relays (and housing), horn, and switchgear. If anyone has a beater that they want to sell some parts off, let me know. Baja Designs makes a kit for $400 that does all this very nicely, but I think I may be able to put it together for quite a bit less on my own. Also, I bought the bike so that I would have a project, so the thought of buying all the parts in one easy transaction isn't too appealing. Parts- looking for all these pieces in some form or another. If anyone has any of this for sale, or has a brilliant way to source it, I would love to know: Switchgear (turn/highbeams/horn) (planning to go to a salvage yard) Horn ditto Front Turn Signals (short stalk type) Rear Turn Signals (either flushmount or short stalks) Brake Light Switch (rear) looking for suggestions Brake Light Switch (front) looking for suggestions (I hear KTM makes a relevant product) Brake Light/License plate light looking for suggestions Mirrors High Beam indicator Rear wheel for street tire Mirrors (acerbis plastic, left and right) Chain guard need it for inspection- plan to take it off immediately thereafter I am also wondering (and this may be a ridiculous question) whether CBR 600 F2 wheels could be persuaded to fit (I have the use of a lathe and a good machinist). I have found some of these wheels cheap, and I am planning to use the bike as a supermotard when I get around to it, so if I could find a way to put these in, it would be great. I already have good rubber in this size, and the wheels are much cheaper than anything off road (I guess they aren't the weak point on the road so there are plenty of wrecked bikes with good wheels about) I can think of many reasons why they would not work, but I thought I would run it up the proverbial flagpole. Thanks in advance, Ned Suesse 94 xr 600r 96 cbr 600 f3 (love those honda 600's...) From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 7 09:35:31 2000 From: Jeannette.Zell@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Brian McCoy" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:28:11 -0500 Subject: RE: 2nd Annual DC Cycles Superbowl Party!!! Content-Disposition: inline LOL, Brian, Tom and I still talk about that!!! ...Todd walking in the house yelling "SUPERBOWL" at the top of his lungs. I think Zeus was so startled that someone would "dare" do that in his house that he didn't know what to do! LOL - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Brian McCoy" on 01/06/2000 07:19:30 PM To: cc: Subject: RE: 2nd Annual DC Cycles Superbowl Party!!! Ok, someone take a tape-recorder for me.. :( Oh, and make some rather insinuative comments towards that hot red-head who'll be standing right in the middle of the kitchen.. ;) And Todd... don't barge into the house screaming this year.. ;) Zeus might have better aim and a hell of a lot better grip. Instant pit-bull vascectomy.. Brian McCoy > From: Jeannette.Zell@XXXXXX > Time: 4:00PM - whenever (game starts at 6, be there early for "kitchen > talk!") > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 7 10:33:09 2000 From: "Danny Thompson" To: , , Subject: Cal Superbike School at VIR Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 10:33:27 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Who is going to Va. International Raceway for the Cal. Superbike School on May 18th & 19th? Danny '99 VFR '99 SV From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 7 11:22:20 2000 From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 11:14:42 -0500 Subject: Unsubscribe Temporarily To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMERICAS-US@INTL If the keeper of the list will please unsubscribe me, I would appreciate it. Today is my last day at my current employer, and the email address will soon be defunct. I will resubscribe next week with the new email address. I think it will be cweaver@XXXXXX, but I won't be sure until next week. Chris Weaver '98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 7 11:44:16 2000 From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:44:04 EST Subject: Yamaha YZ 250 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX :D I went to San Felipe, Mexico with 6 other people for the week of New Year's, we camped on the beach under the stars and brought my friends YZ 250 with us to play with. MAN are those things fun. There's nothin like fishtailing all over the soft sand :D There were some great dirt roads with lots of little bumps or hills in them too ... or you could go into the desert and slalom the bushes out there ... I highly recommend Baja for off-roading. Marcy From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 7 13:04:40 2000 From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 13:00:26 -0500 Subject: RE: Unsubscribe Temporarily To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMERICAS-US@INTL Sorry for the bother of the unsub email. It was my assumption that this list was run by a human, and I could kill two birds with one stone - let my friends know my email was changing and unsub from the list at the same time. I'm sorry if I annoyed anyone. Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 7 14:39:49 2000 Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:39:08 -0800 (PST) From: Ryan McClune Subject: Re: Cal Superbike School at VIR To: Danny Thompson , sv650@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX I was at Leguna Seca for a two day camp last year. Was thinking of flying out to willow springs this year but don't think I will have the money. . so will probably end up at the below. Guess I should figure this out. . classes are probably filling up. Will see if anyone else responds. --- Danny Thompson wrote: > Who is going to Va. International Raceway for the > Cal. Superbike School on > May 18th & 19th? > > Danny > '99 VFR > '99 SV > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 7 15:08:22 2000 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 15:07 -0500 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Non-Moto... Great Article! Tribute to the United States... This comes from a Canadian newspaper. America: The Good Neighbor. Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator, gave widespread butonly partial news coverage recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as themost generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were liftedout of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollarsand forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americanswho propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just oneof those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world havea plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas 10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or womanon the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times- and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at . Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unlessthey are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma andpa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose.Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else racedto the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, andI'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. Theywill come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, theyare entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those." Stand proud, Americans. The above was posted on the F-Body Message Forum (Camaro and Firebird/Trans Am) Tom '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 7 16:01:59 2000 From: "Danny Thompson" To: Subject: Fw: NYC Moto Show - The Bus is Full!! Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:01:33 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Anita asked that I forward this... Danny '99 VFR '99 SV ----- Original Message ----- From: Anita Lauro To: Danny Thompson Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 3:39 PM Subject: NYC Moto Show - The Bus is Full!! > Danny, > > If you could forward this to dc-cycles, I would really appreciate it! > > Thanks, > Anita > > --------------------- > Due to the outstanding response (a little last minute, but that's > okay!!), the bus trip to NYC is essentially full. If you haven't already > contacted me to tell me that you are going (and mailed your check) > the best I can do is to take down names in case of any > cancellations. > > Thanks for all the interest!! > Anita > From dc-cycles-request Fri Jan 7 16:46:01 2000 From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:45:47 EST Subject: new starter To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX anybody have suggestions for a good place to order a starter for my 89 Honda CB-1 (cb400F)? From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 8 13:05:28 2000 From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:04:50 EST Subject: BC 1100 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Anybody notice problems with your BC 1100 during the cold weather? Mine won't register speed correctly until the temp get above ,say 35 or so. Bob From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 8 18:17:40 2000 Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:17:35 -0800 (PST) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: superbowl party To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX LOL....What Brian said... someone video the kitchen talk, since my redheaded half won't be around to add fuel to the fire.. or whatever other good euphamism fits the talk in there ;-) Anyone else on the list going to the MARRC awards banquet next Saturday??? Brian R, Jeff??? I'll be in town late Friday, attending the banquet, then heading out sometime Sunday morning... Hope I'll see some of ya'll there... Collin ===== Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Dixie Cycles Bell Helmets, and EBC Brakes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 8 19:14:35 2000 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 19:12:48 -0500 From: "Charles V. Pena" X-Accept-Language: en To: DC Cycles Subject: Dyno tuning Was wondering what a reasonable cost for dyno tuning a bike is? Just the actual tuning, all the stuff (e.g., exhaust, jet kit, etc.) is already installed. I was told $300 by the guys at Fast Lane in Chantilly, VA and wanted to know if that was about right. Thanx! Chuck -- "Wherever you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lagoon/5098 From dc-cycles-request Sat Jan 8 19:45:07 2000 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 19:42:20 -0500 From: JEM Broga Subject: Re: Dyno tuning/prices To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Try calling Steve at SpeedWerks to get another price and see if Fast Lane is reasonable (302)697-7043. Not sure what they charge, but they are good guys. Jonathan Broga JEM Racing '99 SV650X - CCS#500 Sponsored by: http://www.speed-werks.com http://www.centurypool.com > Was wondering what a reasonable cost for dyno tuning a bike is? Just > the actual tuning, all the stuff (e.g., exhaust, jet kit, etc.) is > already installed. I was told $300 by the guys at Fast Lane in > Chantilly, VA and wanted to know if that was about right. Thanx! > > Chuck > > -- > "Wherever you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Banzai > visit us at http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lagoon/5098 From dc-cycles-request Sun Jan 9 19:47:35 2000 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 16:47:28 -0800 (PST) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: dyno tuning To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Who did you talk to at Fast Lane?? Rick has one bonehead working the counter that always gets things wrong. Maybe he thought you needed a jet kit of some sort too.... In the past, I think their rate was $50/hour on the dyno....not sure if that includes the mechanic doing changes.. obviously some bikes are easier than others...A GSXR is designed for rapid carb/jetting changes, so you can do numberous changes in an hour, whereas a CBR is much mroe difficult. The best thing to do is to go down to their shop and talk with one of the mechanics, or Rick himself. Also, whoever you go to, be sure to take all the spare jets and such that came with your jet kit, otherwise you will end up paying for any jet changes.....(about $5-$8 per jet I believe) Collin ===== Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Dixie Cycles Bell Helmets, and EBC Brakes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Jan 9 20:34:09 2000 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 20:32:18 -0500 From: "Charles V. Pena" X-Accept-Language: en To: "Collin T. Fagan" , DC Cycles Subject: Re: dyno tuning Collin et al... Thanks for all your replies and help. I will talk to Rick directly at Fast Lanes to get a good estimate of what it might cost to adjust/tune my m/c ('93 GSXR 750). I have all the spare needles, springs, etc. that came with my jet kit. I am hoping that getting it tuned "right" will be relatively easy and not overly expensive. Chuck "Collin T. Fagan" wrote: > > Who did you talk to at Fast Lane?? Rick has one bonehead working the > counter that always gets things wrong. Maybe he thought you needed a > jet kit of some sort too.... > > In the past, I think their rate was $50/hour on the dyno....not sure if > that includes the mechanic doing changes.. obviously some bikes are > easier than others...A GSXR is designed for rapid carb/jetting changes, > so you can do numberous changes in an hour, whereas a CBR is much mroe > difficult. The best thing to do is to go down to their shop and talk > with one of the mechanics, or Rick himself. > > Also, whoever you go to, be sure to take all the spare jets and such > that came with your jet kit, otherwise you will end up paying for any > jet changes.....(about $5-$8 per jet I believe) > > Collin > > ===== > Collin T. Fagan > DC-Cycles Racing > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > Proudly sponsored by: > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > Dixie Cycles > Bell Helmets, and EBC Brakes > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com -- "Wherever you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lagoon/5098 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 10 00:23:04 2000 From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:22:27 EST Subject: Several bikes for sale. (CHERRY GSXR!) GET YOURS NOW! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Here's what I have up for grabs! Be the lucky buyer today! 1978 Honda Hawk II. 400cc air-cooled parallel twin. Blue. Great overall condition. Tires, chain and sprockets replaced recently. No rust, chrome is in good condition. Small Shoei fairing to acompany. Carbs will need cleaned/rebuilt, but nothing major. Excellent beginner bike for that loved one, or something cheap and fun. Front disc, rear drum. Comstar wheels.$450 obo. 1983 Honda Interceptor VF750F 700cc ('84 tariff-beater motor) V4. Silver/grey custom paint. After market lower fairing. Rear tire near new, brand new front tire. New battery and chain. Dual Super-Trapps. Own a legendary sportbike! $1,000 obo. And my friend is selling.... 1996 Suzuki GSXR 3800 miles. New-ish tires. Properly broken in. Damn near mint condition...I have trouble believing the guy ever rode it at all!!! Two AGV helmets and a tank bag acompany. $7,000 negotiable. I believe it was the copper/brown colour-scheme. Any questions or comments, please e-mail me! If you know of anyone looking for a bike, pass this on. I'm trying to finance a race-bike (and my father wants his garage back). -Sean Jordan (703)-609-6147 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 10 09:52:25 2000 Reply-To: "Mark Kitchell" From: "Mark Kitchell" To: "Danny Thompson" , Subject: Re: Cal Superbike School at VIR Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:51:52 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Danny et. al: I have been wanting to do this for a long time...finally somewhat (5 hours) near DC. I am registering today for the 19th if possible. We should def. get a DC Cycles group. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Danny Thompson To: sv650@XXXXXX ; vfr@XXXXXX ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 6:00 PM Subject: Cal Superbike School at VIR >Who is going to Va. International Raceway for the Cal. Superbike School on >May 18th & 19th? > >Danny >'99 VFR >'99 SV From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 10 11:38:29 2000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:44:46 -0400 From: Randy Moran Reply-To: Randy Moran Organization: TRW X-Accept-Language: en To: DC Cycles Subject: FS - '99 SV650X Race Bike - $5500 '99 Suzuki SV650X, red, race-prepped. * Complete, unpainted Sharkskinz fairing (tail section damaged but repairable, upper and lower brand new) * All stock parts included. * Race Tech emulators, springs. * Daytona steering damper * Safety wired * Rearsets * Clip-ons Raced one weekend, less than 900 miles on the bike. Crashed once at Summit, turn one. The tank is scuffed and slightly dented. The bike won one race for me in September (after the crash) and will win many more for the right rider. An excellent bike on which to begin an illustrious racing career. Here's a picture of the bike, #567. Damage to the tail section is visible on the inside number plate http://marrc.nova.org/seapup/990918_CCS/567-1_990918_CCS.jpg Bike is located in Northern Virginia. Impending arrival of first child forces sale. $5500 or best offer. Please email me directly. -- Randy Moran From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 10 11:50:43 2000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:50:39 -0800 (PST) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: BC 1100 To: McKeithen@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mine worked perfectly on Saturday. It was cold enough early in the morning that I got some ice in my drinking water, but the speedo stayed accurate. (BC1200, not 1100 but they're probably similar) Leon --- McKeithen@XXXXXX wrote: > Anybody notice problems with your BC 1100 during the > cold weather? Mine won't > register speed correctly until the temp get above > ,say 35 or so. > Bob > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 10 13:10:17 2000 From: "Horkster" Reply-To: "Horkster" Date: Mon, 10 Jan 100 13:09:30 -0500 To: Eternity23@XXXXXX, "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: Several bikes for sale. (CHERRY GSXR!) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:22:27 EST >If you know of anyone looking for a bike, pass this on. I'm trying >to finance a race-bike (and my father wants his garage back). Oh really? Why? Is he getting a new bike? Cool! :) Horkster -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) Horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - His - BugSlayer 1999 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi -- From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 10 14:39:39 2000 Reply-To: "Mark Kitchell" From: "Mark Kitchell" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: CSS IS open still Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:39:12 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 I just signed for the California Superbike School on May 19th. Both days remain open if you drive their Kawasaki 600. Since I wanted to ride their bike anyway, that was perfect for me. Danny, when are you heading down? Mark From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 10 15:06:16 2000 From: BryanRoach@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:05:37 EST Subject: Re: Cal Superbike School at VIR To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 1/7/00 10:37:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, dthompso1@XXXXXX writes: << Who is going to Va. International Raceway for the Cal. Superbike School on May 18th & 19th? >> I'm signed up for both days. - Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 10 21:44:47 2000 From: "rdrdr" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Calf. racing school Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:43:03 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Can anyone pass along their phone number or web site address ? PPPLEASE? Niv BMW F650ST Suz DR650 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 10 22:21:06 2000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:19:19 -0500 From: "Charles V. Pena" X-Accept-Language: en To: rdrdr CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Calf. racing school http://www.superbikeschool.com rdrdr wrote: > > Can anyone pass along their phone number or web site address ? PPPLEASE? > > Niv > BMW F650ST > Suz DR650 -- "Wherever you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lagoon/5098 From dc-cycles-request Mon Jan 10 22:45:47 2000 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:42:45 -0500 From: JEM Broga Subject: Photos of some DC locals To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, sv650@XXXXXX X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_CvRpUIJwJJqwxtW2g39iBw) Here are some photos of my SV, and a few other listers, and some misc. = taken at Summit Point, WV this past September. http://members2.clubphoto.com/jem217423/First_Album/ Jonathan Broga JEM Racing '99 SV650X - CCS#500 Sponsored by: http://www.speed-werks.com http://www.centurypool.com --Boundary_(ID_CvRpUIJwJJqwxtW2g39iBw)

Here are some photos of my SV, and a = few other=20 listers, and some misc. taken at Summit Point, WV this past=20 September.

http://memb= ers2.clubphoto.com/jem217423/First_Album/

Jonathan Broga
JEM Racing
'99 = SV650X -=20 CCS#500

Sponsored by:
http://www.speed-werks.com
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--Boundary_(ID_CvRpUIJwJJqwxtW2g39iBw)-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 11 11:43:57 2000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:46:13 -0800 From: Chuck Pena X-Accept-Language: en To: DC Cycles CC: Mitch Nakonechny Subject: WTB: Slip-on for 93 GSXR 750 I'm posting this for an internt friend (in Canada -- his email address is cc'ed) who is looking for a slip-on for his Canadian '92 GSXR 750 which is the same thing as a US 93 GSXR 750. Anyone on the list swapping cans or upgrading to a full exhaust or just happen to have one lying around? If so, please contact Mitch directly at mnakonechny@XXXXXX. Thanx! Chuck From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 11 12:34:45 2000 From: "Swifty" To: "Chuck Pena" , "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: Seca Turbo Parts bike Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:36:46 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I have a 1982 Seca Turbo parts bike ( in baskets) for sale. All parts except the seat. The turbo is in good shape (it worked before the bike was disassembled for storage). Make offer John Swift cbxturbo@XXXXXX day phone - work 703-790-5800 From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 11 17:35:24 2000 Reply-To: "Mark Kitchell" From: "Mark Kitchell" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Advanced Rider Class Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:34:27 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 If anyone is interested, I signed up for the Advanced Rider Training on April 16th at the Loudon NOVA Campus. Its $55. Any idea what to expect from this class? Mark From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 11 19:00:18 2000 Reply-To: "Mark Kitchell" From: "Mark Kitchell" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Captial 1000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:59:55 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Does anyone have info on this year's Capital 1000? Their web site isn't working. Thanks, Mark From dc-cycles-request Tue Jan 11 20:08:08 2000 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:08:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Captial 1000 To: DC Cycles The management of the Capitol 1000 is changing hands this year. Earlier a few of us who have run the Cap before volunteered to help out with setting it up this year. However, I still have heard nothing from the people who are ultimately running it. If I hear any news I'll post them to DC-Cycles. Louis --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > Does anyone have info on this year's Capital 1000? Their web site isn't > working. > > Thanks, > > Mark > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 00:01:12 2000 From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:00:59 EST Subject: M-Class License To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I just noticed today, that my DC drivers license, which USED to have a little "M" class on it, now mysteriously only has a "D" (which is the normal car license). I suspect an error was made the last time I renewed it but it was a LOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG time ago. Anybody have any thoughts as to how I can fix this without having to take the damn driving and written tests? argh! Marcy From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 07:15:28 2000 From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: M-Class License Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 04:15:20 -0800 >I just noticed today, that my DC drivers license, which USED to have a little >"M" class on it, now mysteriously only has a "D" (which is the normal car >license). I suspect an error was made the last time I renewed it but it was a >LOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG time ago. This happened to me in VA a few years ago. Luckily I noticed it on the way back to my bike from the counter. Even with that, it was a bit of a hassle to get the "M" endorsement back on. I wish you luck, but fear the worst. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 07:36:26 2000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:33:30 -0500 From: Gary Foreman Subject: RE: M-Class License To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Cc: DC-Cycles Mailing List X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 They "F"'d me over the same way a few years ago. I went 5 years without the right class. When to renew, and they said I didn't have it, but I explained to the pencil heads that I have had a motorcycle longer than a car. It fell on deaf ear, and they handed me the test which without looking at a book in 15 years I failed (how many feet back do you follow?...FAR ENOUGH NOT TO HIT THE BASTARD!...alas it wasn't one of the choices). Now here's the pisser, I was on my bike! The dick head said I could take the test again in a few days and handed me the book. I picked up my helmet and started to the door. He stopped me and told me I couldn't ride the bike without the "M" class on the license. I said "Hell, I've been doing it for 5 years, what difference does it make" and rode off. I took the book, looked it over that night, then drove 20 miles to another town and passed the test and got the license the next day. I even had to take the stupid driving part. You should have seen me slapping that XS1100 with low clip-ons and headers around the course. The guy giving the test said "You've done this before heh?" Needless to say, I check it EVERY time now. YOU WILL pay for their mistake. > -----Original Message----- > From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX [mailto:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 12:01 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: M-Class License > > > I just noticed today, that my DC drivers license, which USED to > have a little > "M" class on it, now mysteriously only has a "D" (which is the normal car > license). I suspect an error was made the last time I renewed it > but it was a > LOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG time ago. > > Anybody have any thoughts as to how I can fix this without having > to take the > damn driving and written tests? argh! > > Marcy > From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 08:26:04 2000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:15:58 -0500 From: Bill Huson To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: M-Class License You left the DC department of wefugitupbigtime without double checking everything? And now you think they'll correct the error? Har har har har har ... If your insurance comapany hasn't busted you, chances are good that the official record has you down for an M (assuming you have a real live ins co instead of webecheap). If so, *maybe* DC will fix it. But I'd be ready to take the tests. Bill JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > I just noticed today, that my DC drivers license, which USED to have a little > "M" class on it, now mysteriously only has a "D" (which is the normal car > license). I suspect an error was made the last time I renewed it but it was a > LOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG time ago. > > Anybody have any thoughts as to how I can fix this without having to take the > damn driving and written tests? argh! > > Marcy From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 09:22:41 2000 From: "Jay St. Peter" To: Subject: Re: M-Class License Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:23:41 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I recently changed my license from VA to MD (can you say thousands of pieces of paper necessary in MD, took me two months just to get the paperwork together and I was supposed to get it done within a month). I rode my bike in on the day that I had successfully collected all the paperwork. In MD you go to about 100 stations before getting your license. I told each of the people I needed CM class license. I was once told I was going to have to pay for two licenses. In the end, after mentioning the M at each of 100 stations, they said "check over the info and sign" and of course it was a class C license. At that point my VA license was in a pile somewhere at another station and one of the managers had to come over and deal with it. I guess they just wanted to make sure I didn't get out of there in LESS than 4 hours. The whole process needs to be revamped. I talked to my mom before I went and she said MD had just revamped its whole process and computer system. It is supposed to be real easy now. Yeah right! I don't remember it being that hard back in the 80s when I lived in MD. I think they made it twice as hard. Used to be you waited in a big line for a couple of hours. Now you wait for your number to be called just to get a new number about 100 times and try to juggle numbers for getting your license and numbers for doing your vehicles just to have them pop up at the same time and have to go get yet another number. I went up and said "my drivers license number came up so I missed my number at this station" and the woman said "that's what you get for trying to do both at the same time". ahhhhhhh sorry, just thinking about it gets me going..... Jay St. Peter still smarting from over 6 hours at the MD MVA (it only takes 2 hrs to find out you don't have all the thousands of pieces of paper necessary, 4 hrs to get it done when you do) From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 09:25:53 2000 From: Jeannette.Zell@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:18:51 -0500 Subject: Re: M-Class License Content-Disposition: inline Yikes, that sucks. Good luck. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 JinnSinn@XXXXXX on 01/12/2000 12:00:59 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: Subject: M-Class License I just noticed today, that my DC drivers license, which USED to have a little "M" class on it, now mysteriously only has a "D" (which is the normal car license). I suspect an error was made the last time I renewed it but it was a LOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG time ago. Anybody have any thoughts as to how I can fix this without having to take the damn driving and written tests? argh! Marcy ____________________________________________________________ This electronic message transmission contains information from the law firm Shaw Pittman that may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended solely for the recipient and use by any other party is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify us immediately by telephone (1.202.663.8000) or by electronic mail (postmaster@XXXXXX). Thank you. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 09:39:53 2000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:39:38 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: M-Class License Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Jay St. Peter wrote: > The whole process needs to be revamped. I talked to my mom before I > went and she said MD had just revamped its whole process and computer > system. It is supposed to be real easy now. Yeah right! When the system was revamped (it's been 3-5 years now) you really could zip right through. I walked in with an out of state title and walked out with new tags in about 20 minutes once. I still remember that day with tears in my eyes... :) Kirk 2000 Kawasaki KLX300 (http://dirtrider.net/planetklx/) 1998 Honda VTR1000 (http://members.nova.org/~kirk/Kirk1.jpg) From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 10:00:06 2000 From: "Paul A. Wilson" To: Cc: Subject: Re: M-Class License Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:56:51 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal You're OK. Look at the back of the license. Class "D" means vehicles for non-commercial and personal use. Also includes Class "N" which are mopeds. Class "D" includes motorcycles and all other vehicles not for hire. Basically you have privileges for all vehicles except those that require a CDL. Don't you feel special and empowered. :) If they gave you a Class "M" you cold not legally drive a car, only a motorcycle. You should also have "M" under endorsements so Officer Friendly in another state can figure out that you have a MC endorsement. I got my DC endorsement last month and that's what the lady behind the counter explained to me at the testing station. BTW, the DC motorcycle skills test is a joke and I had to wait eight weeks for an appointment. Basically if you don't drop your bike during the test they give you an endorsement. DC does like accept the MSF RiderCourse. Also the DC DMV is much, much better than when I first moved here. Would you believe that the MC written test is now on the computer? Paul Wilson Washington DC ---------- > From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: M-Class License > Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 12:00 AM > > I just noticed today, that my DC drivers license, which USED to have a little > "M" class on it, now mysteriously only has a "D" (which is the normal car > license). I suspect an error was made the last time I renewed it but it was a > LOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG time ago. > > Anybody have any thoughts as to how I can fix this without having to take the > damn driving and written tests? argh! > > Marcy From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 10:09:11 2000 X-Originating-IP: [204.193.255.42] From: "Doug Allis" To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: M-Class License Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:09:01 PST Vote with your feet. Move out of the district. >I just noticed today, that my DC drivers license, which USED to have a >little >"M" class on it, now mysteriously only has a "D" (which is the normal car >license). I suspect an error was made the last time I renewed it but it was >a >LOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG time ago. > >Anybody have any thoughts as to how I can fix this without having to take >the >damn driving and written tests? argh! > >Marcy ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 10:18:48 2000 X-Originating-IP: [204.193.255.42] From: "Doug Allis" To: jay.stpeter@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: M-Class License Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:18:09 PST Took me less than an hour in the Springfield Mall "store" about a year ago when I renewed mine. It took me less than two hours when I decided to go legal 6 years ago. I called them and made an appointment!!!! That time included the written and the riding test. Added bonus: VA didn't even notice/care that the bike somehow "rode itself" to the DMV ;-) You can write a letter to your legislator/mayor/governor or vote with your feet. Move to VA. >I guess they just wanted to make sure I didn't get out of there in LESS >than >4 hours. > >The whole process needs to be revamped. I talked to my mom before I went >and she said MD had just revamped its whole process and computer system. >It >is supposed to be real easy now. Yeah right ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 10:45:17 2000 From: "Jay St. Peter" To: "Doug Allis" , Subject: RE: M-Class License Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:46:21 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Yeah, I had my VA license stolen about a week before moving. Took me 20 minutes at the Tysons Corner DMV on a saturday to walk out w/a new one. I don't know what it would take if I was to attempt to move all my vehicles there though, maybe the same hassle. I know it is easier to register vehicles in VA, don't need all the notarized crap you do in MD. Just a signed title. MD does have some MVA express locations (one 3 miles from my house) to ease the license renewal process. That actually works OK according to some people I've talked to. Overall it is not enough to make me want to move again (although grocery stores not selling beer kinda sucks). Jay -----Original Message----- From: Doug Allis [mailto:dhallis@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 7:18 AM To: jay.stpeter@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: M-Class License Took me less than an hour in the Springfield Mall "store" about a year ago when I renewed mine. It took me less than two hours when I decided to go legal 6 years ago. I called them and made an appointment!!!! That time included the written and the riding test. Added bonus: VA didn't even notice/care that the bike somehow "rode itself" to the DMV ;-) You can write a letter to your legislator/mayor/governor or vote with your feet. Move to VA. >I guess they just wanted to make sure I didn't get out of there in LESS >than >4 hours. > >The whole process needs to be revamped. I talked to my mom before I went >and she said MD had just revamped its whole process and computer system. >It >is supposed to be real easy now. Yeah right ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 11:13:36 2000 From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:12:02 EST Subject: Re: M-Class License To: pawilson@XXXXXX, JinnSinn@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX oooo I feel so special! ;D but is the difference between having a Class M (where I could not drive a car) and having "M" under endorsements? shouldn't there be a little "M" on the license in either case? And how can I be sure that the "D" includes motorcycles? obviously the bike is non-commercial and personal use but do you know for certain that the law includes motorcycles under Class D? thanks! Marcy In a message dated 1/12/00 9:59:41 AM, pawilson@XXXXXX writes: << Class "D" means vehicles for non-commercial and personal use. Also includes Class "N" which are mopeds. Class "D" includes motorcycles and all other vehicles not for hire. Basically you have privileges for all vehicles except those that require a CDL. Don't you feel special and empowered. :) If they gave you a Class "M" you cold not legally drive a car, only a motorcycle. You should also have "M" under endorsements so Officer Friendly in another state can figure out that you have a MC endorsement. >> From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 11:13:30 2000 From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:12:47 EST Subject: Re: M-Class License To: dhallis@XXXXXX, JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX no way man. I like being downtown. If I move out it'll be to LA or NYC. :D Marcy In a message dated 1/12/00 10:09:06 AM, dhallis@XXXXXX writes: << Move out of the district. >> From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 11:15:44 2000 From: "Paul A. Wilson" To: "Paul A. Wilson" Cc: Subject: Re: M-Class License Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:14:55 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Oops, typo. DC does _not_ accept MSF RiderCourse. They should since the riding test is so lame. They also didn't ask how I miraculously appeared for my test. The whole "supervision" thing is ridiculous. Whoever wrote the regs doesn't have a clue. Paul Wilson Washington DC ---------- > > Basically if you don't drop your bike during the test they give you an > endorsement. DC does like accept the MSF RiderCourse. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 11:57:25 2000 From: jnewman@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:57:17 -0500 Subject: Re: M-Class License I just got transferred my license from VA to DC about 5 months ago ( after living in DC for about two years) and only have a class "M" endorsement on my license. When I was at the counter, I noticed the lady only gave me the endorsement for a car, and I pointed out that on my VA license I had both the car and motorcycle endorsement. She looked at it and said " oh yea, the "M" means motorcycle...." Uh, yes. She then assigned me just the class "M" endorsement and reviewed my paperwork for both my car and motorcycle. I don't have a "C" ( which one can conclude also covers motorcycles), just the "M" ( which one can conclude excludes cars! ). I don't see any problem with this, and if I am ever questioned, my defense would be "why was I issued plates, a new title, assessed taxes, and a parking sticker for my car, when the new license clearly had an "M" on it? In my point of view, you are in a better situation than I, because you have a "D" which also covers an "N"...which is good for a "motor driven cycle" which is also referred to as a "motorcycle" See how that works? neat huh? Do what most people in DC do.... ignore it, and go on with business until someone actually confronts you. -John "creativity is a spice of life" Newman 88 FZR 400 From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Date sent: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:00:59 EST Subject: M-Class License To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I just noticed today, that my DC drivers license, which USED to have a little "M" class on it, now mysteriously only has a "D" (which is the normal car license). I suspect an error was made the last time I renewed it but it was a LOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG time ago. Anybody have any thoughts as to how I can fix this without having to take the damn driving and written tests? argh! Marcy From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 12:18:31 2000 From: Michael Jay To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: M-Class License Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:23:40 -0500 Perhaps, but who gets the money as the regs stand now? Mike '82 XJ750RJ -----Original Message----- From: Paul A. Wilson [mailto:pawilson@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 11:15 AM To: Paul A. Wilson Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: M-Class License Oops, typo. DC does _not_ accept MSF RiderCourse. They should since the riding test is so lame. They also didn't ask how I miraculously appeared for my test. The whole "supervision" thing is ridiculous. Whoever wrote the regs doesn't have a clue. Paul Wilson Washington DC ---------- > > Basically if you don't drop your bike during the test they give you an > endorsement. DC does like accept the MSF RiderCourse. From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 12:37:40 2000 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:41:13 -0500 (EST) From: cambion To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: M-Class License While we're on the subject maybe someone with a VA license can clear something up for me. About 4-5 months ago I went to the DMV to get a class M endorsment added to my normal (car) driver's license. After the standard paperwork and waiting ritual I recieved a new license .. Class M. I immediately questioned the person at the counter, explaining that I needed a license for both a car AND a motorcycle. She assured me that the Class M license covered both. This definately did not sound right to me, so I asked that she double check this. She asked the person working the station next to hers and they agreed that the Class M covered both. At that point I said "Okay" and off I went and I really haven't bothered to think much about it since then. However, this thread has renewed my concerns about my own situation. Can anyone tell me with certainty wether or not what the folks at the DMV told me was correct or not? Thanks! Mike On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 jnewman@XXXXXX wrote: > > I just got transferred my license from VA to DC about 5 months > ago ( after living in DC for about two years) and only have a class > "M" endorsement on my license. When I was at the counter, I > noticed the lady only gave me the endorsement for a car, and I > pointed out that on my VA license I had both the car and > motorcycle endorsement. She looked at it and said " oh yea, the > "M" means motorcycle...." Uh, yes. She then assigned me just > the class "M" endorsement and reviewed my paperwork for both > my car and motorcycle. I don't have a "C" ( which one can > conclude also covers motorcycles), just the "M" ( which one can > conclude excludes cars! ). I don't see any problem with this, and > if I am ever questioned, my defense would be "why was I issued > plates, a new title, assessed taxes, and a parking sticker for my > car, when the new license clearly had an "M" on it? > > In my point of view, you are in a better situation than I, because > you have a "D" which also covers an "N"...which is good for a > "motor driven cycle" which is also referred to as a "motorcycle" > See how that works? neat huh? > > Do what most people in DC do.... ignore it, and go on with > business until someone actually confronts you. > > -John "creativity is a spice of life" Newman > > 88 FZR 400 > > > > > From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX > Date sent: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:00:59 EST > Subject: M-Class License > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > I just noticed today, that my DC drivers license, which USED to have a little > "M" class on it, now mysteriously only has a "D" (which is the normal car > license). I suspect an error was made the last time I renewed it but it was a > LOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG time ago. > > Anybody have any thoughts as to how I can fix this without having to take the > damn driving and written tests? argh! > > Marcy > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cambion --- Cambion@XXXXXX --- ICQ: 212086 --- http://www.blood-dance.net/hls/cambion --- Internet Systems Engineer - UUNET, an MCI Worldcom Company - Remember you don't really own anything you can't carry at a dead run. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Jan 12 12:57:12 2000 From: "Dysart, Glenn B Mr SAM" To: "'cambion'" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: M-Class License Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:56:31 -0500 The license should say "Driver's License" underneath where it says Virginia and "M" under class. That covers both. Glenn -----Original Message----- While we're on the subject maybe someone with a VA license can clear something up for me. About 4-5 months ago I went to the DMV to get a class M endorsment added to my normal (car) driver's license. After the standard paperwork and waiting ritual I recieved a new license .. Class M. I immediately questioned the person at the counter, explaining that I needed a license for both a car AND a motorcycle. She assured me that the Class M licens