From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Feb 1 00:28:14 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h115SEO7016737; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 00:28:14 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h115SD0a016727; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 00:28:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 00:42:45 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Spidi Leathers? In-Reply-To: <000f01c2c9aa$264059d0$6401a8c0@cypher> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Rob Curtis wrote: > Has anyone got a set of Spidi leathers (one piece 52 or 54) that I might be > able to try on for size? Shot in the dark... Thanks! > > Robby C. If you can't find any, Kneedraggers.com rents Spidi leathers. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Feb 1 10:56:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h11Fu2O7020734; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:56:02 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h11FtxJO020717; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:55:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [4.65.188.177] From: "Adam Wah" To: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 15:32:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2003 15:32:37.0583 (UTC) FILETIME=[264B0DF0:01C2CA07] >Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:26:13 -0600 >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >From: Sean Jordan >Subject: Some BS Anti-Motorcyclist Legislation in New Mexico >http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/scripts/NewsInsert.asp?insert=5149 Organ Donors... they ripped that off from the Biker Boyz movie... no I didn't see it but the line is used on the Television promo's. Sounds like a T-shirt... In addition to toys for tots etc... the bikers of America ought to swamp DMV's everywhere (on the same day) to have their DL's reflect "Organ Donor"... Then to really mess with things pick another day to recind the DLOD designation and back again... and so on.... I must be bored... or an organ donor aw Never meddle in the affairs of Organ Donors, for you are crunchy and go well with Catsup. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Feb 1 11:07:05 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h11G75O7022521; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:07:05 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h11G74ni022510; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:07:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <004e01c2ca0c$1c544be0$6601a8c0@laptop> From: "bruce" To: Subject: A Dark Day in History Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:08:03 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Space Shuttle Columbia broke up in the skies over Texas this morning as it was approaching for a landing. The seven astronauts including the first Israeli astronaut are not believed to have survived, My thoughts are with their families and with all the members of NASA. Bruce From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Feb 1 11:10:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h11GAGO7023419; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:10:16 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h11GAFJE023404; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:10:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.2.20030201110905.02b18090@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:10:02 -0500 To: From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: A Dark Day in History In-Reply-To: <004e01c2ca0c$1c544be0$6601a8c0@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:08 AM 2/1/2003, bruce wrote: >Space Shuttle Columbia broke up in the skies over Texas this morning >as it >was approaching for a landing. The seven astronauts including the >first >Israeli astronaut are not believed to have survived, My thoughts are >with >their families and with all the members of NASA. > >Bruce yes ditto here. They're already reporting body parts and debris in Texas. Gawd..this is awful. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Feb 1 15:45:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h11Kj4O7026257; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:45:04 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h11Kj3HR026247; Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:45:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E3C322D.FDF08E5B@tasam.com> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 15:46:37 -0500 From: Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aki Damme , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: A Dark Day in History References: <5.2.0.9.2.20030201110905.02b18090@pop.east.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aki Damme wrote: > > At 11:08 AM 2/1/2003, bruce wrote: > >Space Shuttle Columbia broke up in the skies over Texas this morning > >as it > >was approaching for a landing. The seven astronauts including the > >first > >Israeli astronaut are not believed to have survived, My thoughts are > >with > >their families and with all the members of NASA. > > > >Bruce > > yes ditto here. They're already reporting body parts and debris in > Texas. > > Gawd..this is awful. the only comforting thing is that it was fast. at 12,000 mph, and 200.000 feet, you'd die nearly instantaneously. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Feb 3 12:59:11 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h13HxB7Q029697; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:59:11 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h13HwuMR029685; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:58:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030203175849.35662.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:58:49 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Grrr battery nut flew out To: DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What a *&#@ mess. Charged the battery, took it outside to reinstall, and of course I forgot to secure the square bolts at the bottom. One flew out. So, are these little square fellows something specific to moto batteries, or can I find in either a hardware store or auto parts store? Before telling me this is a stuuupid question, remember I have no other transport, so a 1 mile trip to the autoparts store is a big hassle. Thanks PS: If I was unclear: I lost the bolt which goes inside the battery's pos and neg terminals. This bolt secures the screw which holds down the wires to the battery. ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Feb 3 13:09:41 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h13I9f7Q031471; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:09:41 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h13I9erG031460; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:09:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Grrr battery nut flew out Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:06:18 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <20030203175849.35662.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030203175849.35662.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <03020313061898.02506@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 03 February 2003 12:58, Mark Kitchell wrote: > What a *&#@ mess. Charged the battery, took it > outside to reinstall, and of course I forgot to secure > the square bolts at the bottom. One flew out. > > So, are these little square fellows something specific > to moto batteries, or can I find in either a hardware > store or auto parts store? > > Before telling me this is a stuuupid question, > remember I have no other transport, so a 1 mile trip > to the autoparts store is a big hassle. > It's a standard nut. Take the other one with you. > Thanks > > PS: If I was unclear: I lost the bolt which goes > inside the battery's pos and neg terminals. This bolt > secures the screw which holds down the wires to the > battery. > Now why would we think you were unclear? Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Feb 3 13:14:44 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h13IEi7Q032381; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:14:44 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h13IEhJa032371; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:14:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <200302031814.QCW20860@vmms2.verisignmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:14:51 -0500 From: Dave Yates Subject: Re: Grrr battery nut flew out To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 2.9.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kitchell Komplained: >What a *&#@ mess. Charged the battery, took it >outside to reinstall, and of course I forgot to secure >the square bolts at the bottom. One flew out. > >So, are these little square fellows something specific >to moto batteries, or can I find in either a hardware >store or auto parts store? > >Before telling me this is a stuuupid question, >remember I have no other transport, so a 1 mile trip >to the autoparts store is a big hassle. [Dave] It's not necessarily moto specific, if it fits the thread pattern of the screw that secures the terminal connector to the battery AND fits in the battery slow, it will work. a "quarter twenty" nut worked for my ZX11... That is a very common size. Chances are, if you have a loose nut collection (as opposed to the collection of loose nuts subscribed to DCC), you probably have one that fits. Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Feb 3 13:56:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h13IuS7Q001034; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:56:28 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h13IuSXi001024; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:56:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:56:20 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: sigh. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII http://www.bmwbobs.com/showroom/R1150RT.html 0.9% financing. Sigh. I sorta hate to say this, but I think I want one. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Feb 3 16:11:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h13LBN7Q003703; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:11:23 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h13LBMsf003693; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:11:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:11:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 'nother URL. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Not any big surprise, but nice to see a bit of ok news for a change: http://enquirer.com/editions/2003/02/03/loc_ohmotorcycle03.html -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Feb 3 16:58:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h13Lwa7Q005626; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:58:36 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h13LwaMf005620; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:58:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Rob Sharp" To: "Daniel H. Brown" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 'nother URL. Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 17:58:20 -0400 Message-Id: <20030203215820.M94972@sharpie.org> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Open WebMail 1.71 20020827 X-OriginatingIP: 205.226.130.6 (rob) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I took my MSF (motorcycle safety foundation) course in NY. Except it's 300 bux and it's about 8 hours of classroom and 16 hours of hands on riding. Plus at the end if you pass your tests (written and riding) you get your motorcycle endorsement on your licesnse. I must say it's easier for a rider to get thier license there than and unforgiving DMV tester. Some people passed without being able to do figure 8's ect. However it's better than have a lot of poeople with licenses riding around. Rob On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:11:14 -0500 (EST), Daniel H. Brown wrote > Not any big surprise, but nice to see a bit of ok news for a change: > > http://enquirer.com/editions/2003/02/03/loc_ohmotorcycle03.html > > -- > Dan Brown > brown@XXXXXX -- Rob Sharp CCNA 2.0/CCSA CP2000 Network Security Engineer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Feb 3 19:39:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h140dk7Q010918; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:39:46 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h140dioR010908; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:39:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "LindaT." To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: sigh. Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:39:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Why would you hate to say it. It's a marvelous bike. Of course, I'm not swayed by ownership ;-) LindaT. Custom TankBags Now - TankBags for 1800 Wings Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) AMA IBA HSTA BMWBMW 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.customtankbags.com Daniel H. Brown http://www.bmwbobs.com/showroom/R1150RT.html 0.9% financing. Sigh. I sorta hate to say this, but I think I want one. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Feb 3 21:05:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1425l7Q012203; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:05:47 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h1425kEP012193; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:05:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <008d01c2cbdd$0abd8a40$337d5b0c@micron> From: "Mobacc \(now @ATT\)" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: Grrr battery nut flew out Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:36:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 If I understand the nuts at issue -- those accompanying my batteries have on occasion been imbedded with jumping beans. While a flashlight has eventually solved my problems, the solution occurring has been to secure cable to terminal with coathanger wire tightly twisted (maybe two applications). To last no more than travel to nutseller and back. Bill S. / DC '99 VN750 > Just dont leave a clamp in my innards Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:58:49 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Grrr battery nut flew out To: DC Cycles What a *&#@ mess. Charged the battery, took it outside to reinstall, and of course I forgot to secure the square bolts at the bottom. One flew out. So, are these little square fellows something specific to moto batteries, or can I find in either a hardware store or auto parts store? Before telling me this is a stuuupid question, remember I have no other transport, so a 1 mile trip to the autoparts store is a big hassle. Thanks PS: If I was unclear: I lost the bolt which goes inside the battery's pos and neg terminals. This bolt secures the screw which holds down the wires to the battery. ===== From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 01:24:30 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h146OU7Q014233; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 01:24:30 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h146OTed014223; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 01:24:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-id: Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 01:25:18 -0500 Subject: stuff wanted To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi...I'm looking to buy a couple of used items: (1) motorcycle jacket (probably leather) up to about $50. (2) windscreen (like a plexi-3) for a 1978 Suzuki 750---one incompetent parker too many. Lexan would be better than plexiglass. --garcia )B“When the rich take from the poor, it’s called ‘an economic plan’. When the poor take from the rich, it)B’s called ‘class warfare’.” Guess who does the calling. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 05:54:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h14Asc7Q017416; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 05:54:38 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h14Asbv4017406; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 05:54:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: stuff wanted Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 05:51:22 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0302040551229F.02506@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tuesday 04 February 2003 01:25, garcia oliver wrote: > Hi...I'm looking to buy a couple of used items: > > (1) motorcycle jacket (probably leather) up to about $50. > Check the local pawn shops. That's where I got mine. It was 80 bucks even at pawn but it's a nice jacket. Check ebay too. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 09:08:12 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h14E8B7Q019401; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:08:11 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h14E8BrI019391; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:08:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:08:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: Dc-Cycles Subject: RE: sigh. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, LindaT. wrote: > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:39:24 -0500 > From: "LindaT." > To: Dc-Cycles > Subject: RE: sigh. > > Why would you hate to say it. It's a marvelous bike. Ok... "hate" may be a bit strong, but, even thinking about it, I start feeling like I've been brainwashed by the Cult of the Rondelle. The VFR still has miles left in it, but isn't very comfortable for pillions. And, that 0.9% financing is tempting. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 11:37:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h14Gb17Q021136; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:37:01 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h14GatCM021124; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:36:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030204163642.80023.qmail@web40802.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:36:42 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Withrow Subject: Re: stuff wanted To: garcia oliver , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What size jacket? I have a brown Hein Gericke Concorde jacket that I no longer wear. It is a size 40, but I would want $100 for it. I don't think you are going to get a jacket that offers any protection for under $50. Todd W. --- garcia oliver wrote: > Hi...I'm looking to buy a couple of used items: > > (1) motorcycle jacket (probably leather) up to about > $50. > > (2) windscreen (like a plexi-3) for a 1978 Suzuki > 750---one incompetent > parker too many. Lexan would be better than > plexiglass. > > --garcia > > )B“When the rich take from the poor, it’s called ‘an > economic plan)B’. When > the poor take from the rich, it)B’s called ‘class > warfare)B’.” Guess who does > the calling. > ===== AIM: Inf DS http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow ----------------------------------------------------------- Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 12:02:36 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h14H2a7Q022152; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:02:36 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h14H2ao7022141; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:02:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Danny Thompson" To: Subject: RE: stuff wanted Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:02:22 -0500 Message-ID: <003101c2cc6f$3000cc30$862ea8c0@DTLaptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20030204163642.80023.qmail@web40802.mail.yahoo.com> I have a size 48 Fieldsheer leather jacket in good condition (no falls, etc.) with armour that I would sell for $75. Danny -----Original Message----- From: Todd Withrow [mailto:mtwithrow@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:37 AM To: garcia oliver; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: stuff wanted What size jacket? I have a brown Hein Gericke Concorde jacket that I no longer wear. It is a size 40, but I would want $100 for it. I don't think you are going to get a jacket that offers any protection for under $50. Todd W. --- garcia oliver wrote: > Hi...I'm looking to buy a couple of used items: > > (1) motorcycle jacket (probably leather) up to about > $50. > > (2) windscreen (like a plexi-3) for a 1978 Suzuki > 750---one incompetent > parker too many. Lexan would be better than > plexiglass. > > --garcia > > When the rich take from the poor, its called an > economic plan. When > the poor take from the rich, its called class > warfare. Guess who does > the calling. > ===== AIM: Inf DS http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow ----------------------------------------------------------- Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 1/21/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 1/21/2003 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 14:00:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h14J0k7Q023632; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:00:46 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h14J0h0i023619; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:00:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-id: Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 14:01:31 -0500 Subject: Re: stuff wanted To: mtwithrow@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" References: <20030204163642.80023.qmail@web40802.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030204163642.80023.qmail@web40802.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks. Late night post---forgot that size matters. Around a 44, I'm guessing. 5'11" 160 pounds. There seem to be some reasonably good jackets on ebay for $40-50, but there's benefit in try-before-you-buy. --garcia mtwithrow@XXXXXX writes: >What size jacket? I have a brown Hein Gericke Concorde >jacket that I no longer wear. It is a size 40, but I >would want $100 for it. I don't think you are going to >get a jacket that offers any protection for under $50. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 14:59:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h14JxH7Q025609; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:59:17 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h14JxGie025594; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:59:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E401A2A.468AEA6D@carlparker.com> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 14:53:15 -0500 From: Carl Parker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DCCycles , Paul Wilson , Wallace Schultz Subject: 1157 LED taillights impressions.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gang, I tried 3 different bulbs: one regular stock, one white 12 LED, and one red 19 LED. The latter two can be found at . I wanted to borrow a photometer from a friend whooz a photo buff but he said that it didn't work well or something. I thought about snapping digital camera shots but the camera adjusts for light levels and may not be to useful. I'll prolly just take the shots anyway and see how they turn out. Anywho, until I can find something more scientific to satisfy the numbers and measurements heads amungst us - including myself -I figured I'd offer my individual impression of the results. This is on a single rear stop/brake light on a 1998 Bandit 1200S. - 12 LED white - This one is a big ol' thumbs down. Running - So dim that I'd barely be able to tell it's on in sunlight. Brake - Brighter but still not what I would consider acceptable. -19 LED red - This one is installed and prolly' gonnna to stay there. Running - Considerably brighter than the 12 and I would say acceptable compared to stock as far as intensity. Brake - Nice and intense and I would say it 's a bit less intense than stock. General discussion: 1) It seems like the trick to LED's is to just have more units (LED's) outputting light. In this case 7 more LED's definitely made a noticable difference. 2) The most glaring deficiency between the 19 LED and stock was the intensity of the fill INSIDE the reflector/light unit. The back of the Bandit housing is a red plastic (as the 19 LED unit was red this didn't matter much) but also has a reflector inside of that. The stock bulb has more exposed lighting surface area due to its "bulbous" shape and will reach more of the reflector, therby giving it what appeared to me to be a better "fill" inside the housing. The LED unit and the shape of the rear light housing on the Bandit created a distinctive "eyeball" like effect (sorta reminds me of Tron or Battlestar Galactica) due to the more unidirectional projection of the lights coming from the LED's. This, however, does not mean that there was no light hitting the internal reflector, on the contrary there was quite a bit. The LED's do project some light out to the side but just not as much as the the stock bulb. On the Bandit, the bulb sits nicely inside the regions of the reflector dish and does catch a fair amount of light around its sides but not behind the bulb (if that makes any sense). If I could move the LED bulb back into the reflector about .5" then I would probably have no hesitation in saying that it's as close to sstock as I'd want it. I'll try to post some pics. Your application and results will vary according to the design of your particular bike. Overall: I'm quite pleased with the look and brightness of the red 19 LED unit on my Bandit and will keep it there. I think that in conjunction with some other outboard lights (like Hyperlights which I would do anyway) I wouldn't feel that I'm lacking in rear attention getting power and still be drawing less juice from my battery than a single incan. stock bulb. Bikes or cages (esp. old ones with worn alternators) with dual bulb 1157 tail lamps would probably have no problems at all and enjoy the savings twice as much. My .02 Carl Parker ------------------------------- YA'LL ARE PUNKS! ;^P ------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 15:34:58 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h14KYv7Q027516; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:34:57 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h14KYvIZ027506; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:34:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:34:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: DC Motorcycle Legislation From: Jeff Steele To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1DD1432A-3880-11D7-B07D-00306541B6AC@steele.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) Adrian Fenty, my Council Member, sent out a list of activities in today's Council session and I noticed among new bill introduced was the following: Safe Motorcycle Operator Reciprocity Amendment Act of 2003, Orange To require greater restrictions on motorcycle permits in the District of Columbia I'm trying to get more details about this from him, but does anyone else know anything about this? I'm not sure I like how it sounds. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 15:42:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h14Kg27Q030102; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:42:02 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h14Kg2wT030089; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:42:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030204204159.1720.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:41:59 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: DC Motorcycle Legislation To: Jeff Steele , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <1DD1432A-3880-11D7-B07D-00306541B6AC@steele.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don't know but I just called his office. His chief of staff is supposed to call me back Mark --- Jeff Steele wrote: > Adrian Fenty, my Council Member, sent out a list of > activities in > today's Council session and I noticed among new bill > introduced was the > following: > > Safe Motorcycle Operator Reciprocity Amendment Act > of 2003, Orange > > To require greater restrictions on motorcycle > permits in the District > of Columbia > > I'm trying to get more details about this from him, > but does anyone > else know anything about this? I'm not sure I like > how it sounds. > ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 15:48:32 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h14KmW7Q031834; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:48:32 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h14KmWvF031823; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:48:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <002b01c2cc8e$c4439160$6600a8c0@michael> Reply-To: "Michael Jordan" From: "Michael Jordan" To: "Dc-Cycles" References: Subject: Re: sigh. Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:48:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-ELNK-Trace: 599158c4802a0bc829d2c221526d1bab239a348a220c2609260971fa6995cfc3a4432d6650f75517a2d4e88014a4647c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c > Ok... "hate" may be a bit strong, but, even thinking about it, I start > feeling like I've been brainwashed by the Cult of the Rondelle. I can appreciate that - ever since I spent two weeks on an R1150GS last summer I've been wanting one. So far the desire NOT to part with 13 large has outweighed the desire TO part with it. Time will tell - it's been nine (count 'em) years since I've bought a new scooter and the itch is getting bad. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 15:59:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h14Kxq7Q002014; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:59:52 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h14KxpdV002004; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:59:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:59:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: Dc-Cycles Subject: Re: sigh. In-Reply-To: <002b01c2cc8e$c4439160$6600a8c0@michael> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Michael Jordan wrote: > Time will tell - it's been nine (count 'em) years since I've bought a new > scooter and the itch is getting bad. > I've never owned a new scoot. New to me, but not actually New. My current VFR is the first one I've had, actually, where I wasn't the 3rd+ owner. - 0.9% financing and BMW has an online application form. - My insurance agent says the yearly rates are about the same between my old smaller VFR and the newer, larger BMW. - The vanity plate I want is available. Itchy is an understatement. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 17:33:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h14MXo7Q004177; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:33:50 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h14MXoCG004167; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:33:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00f901c2cc9f$397e2570$0500a8c0@ELECTRAGLIDE> From: "Kathleen Loerich" To: Subject: Food for thought Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:46:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 If you had an opportunity to talk to representatives from the Maryland State Highway Administration (SHA), the Maryland Motor Vehicle Administration (MVA), Maryland State Police (MSP), and NHTSA (Region 3) representatives about motorcycle safety and motorcycling in general, what questions or comments would you have for them? k.loerich From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 18:37:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h14NbV7Q007105; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:37:31 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h14NbUV4007098; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:37:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030204233722.49568.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:37:22 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: DC Motorcycle Legislation To: DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here is my first exchange with Mr. Fenty. Stay tuned. ___________________ It's a little extensive. I will have Joseph, in my office, email you the text of the legislation. You may be glad to know that the emergency version of this bill was withdrawn. Accordingly, there will be a hearing on the bill in the Committee on the Public Works. What is your street address for our records? Adrian Fenty Councilmember, Ward 4 Council of the District of Columbia 1350 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Suite 506 Washington, D.C. 20004 (202)724-8828 F.(202)724-8120 www.dccouncil.washington.dc.us -----Original Message----- From: Mark Kitchell [mailto:mkitchell@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:32 PM To: afenty@XXXXXX Subject: Motorcycle Legislation Safe Motorcycle Operator Reciprocity Amendment Act of 2003 This is being discussed today, Feb 4, 2003. Can you please tell me what it is? Thanks ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 19:26:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h150Q97Q014103; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:26:09 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h150Q8xj014088; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:26:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <026d01c2ccad$46016420$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Cc: "Mark Kitchell" Subject: MC reciprocity law - DC Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:26:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 According to Fenty's email (Mark, he will start blowing you off once he finds out you live in--I think-- Ward 1) it will be assigned to Cmte. on Public Works. We need to find out when it's on the calendar. Remember history is written by those that show up. It's good that they're not invoking "emergency" status. That means at least three "readings" in front of the full council, as well as Cmte. hearings. That will give "us" time to figure out what's going on. Here's the link to the bill reporting system. Not quite http://thomas.loc.gov, but it will have to do. It doesn't appear to be in the database yet. http://www.dccouncil.washington.dc.us/lims/SearchForm.asp Paul in DC Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h152ZR7Q017334; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:35:27 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h152ZLtM017319; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:35:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:49:10 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: To: Subject: No feet racing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A good friend of mine in my car club races his '94 B4C Camaro. He ran in ITE(?) last year and is moving to the new American Iron Series run by NASA. In a car with nearly stock HP and saddled with an automatic tranny (hand controls) he runs at the front of the pack on a regular basis. http://www.sour-milk.org/nofeet.jpg He is a parapalegic, injured in a motorcycle accident in his youth. While I was taking my Keith Code school at VIR, there was a guy there racing an RC51. He was a parapalegic, but had 'landing gear' on the bike. I told my friend about it and he started doign research. He found a picture of the guy on an RC51 website... http://www.sour-milk.org/51.jpg ... and also found a company in CA that makes the kits. He's decided to fab a kit himself with the help of his rollcage fabricator and he already purchased a Suzuki TL1000S as his test bike :-) He should have the kit on the bike within the next month or so. Should be interesting! He's very excited about the thought of riding again. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Feb 4 22:21:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h153Le7Q019393; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:21:40 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h153LeY4019383; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:21:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030205032137.77140.qmail@web14809.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:21:37 -0800 (PST) From: patti rodgers Subject: Re: DC Motorcycle Legislation To: Jeff Steele , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <1DD1432A-3880-11D7-B07D-00306541B6AC@steele.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I'm trying to get more details about this from him, > but does anyone > else know anything about this? I'm not sure I like > how it sounds. Jeff, I think you're in the same ANC as I am. If not, then you're close! I'll email my ANC guy. If you think he's yours, too, contact him at leraris@XXXXXX. This goes for anyone else technically in 16th Street Heights. I think it is ANC 401-3C but not sure. Cheers, patti __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Feb 5 08:16:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h15DGs7Q023277; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:16:54 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h15DGqxT023267; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:16:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E410D3E.6000308@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 08:10:22 -0500 From: Tom de User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20021126 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: No feet racing References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is very cool... Wayne Edelen wrote: >A good friend of mine in my car club races his '94 B4C Camaro. He ran in >ITE(?) last year and is moving to the new American Iron Series run by >NASA. In a car with nearly stock HP and saddled with an automatic >tranny (hand controls) he runs at the front of the pack on a regular >basis. > >http://www.sour-milk.org/nofeet.jpg > >He is a parapalegic, injured in a motorcycle accident in his youth. > >While I was taking my Keith Code school at VIR, there was a guy there >racing an RC51. He was a parapalegic, but had 'landing gear' on the bike. >I told my friend about it and he started doign research. He found a >picture of the guy on an RC51 website... > >http://www.sour-milk.org/51.jpg > >... and also found a company in CA that makes the kits. He's decided to >fab a kit himself with the help of his rollcage fabricator and he already >purchased a Suzuki TL1000S as his test bike :-) > >He should have the kit on the bike within the next month or so. Should be >interesting! He's very excited about the thought of riding again. > >-- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Feb 5 09:54:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h15EsY7Q024745; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:54:34 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h15EsWMh024735; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:54:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030205145429.62641.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 06:54:29 -0800 (PST) From: Isaac Blanck Subject: Re: MC reciprocity law - DC To: Paul Wilson , dc-cycles list Cc: Mark Kitchell In-Reply-To: <026d01c2ccad$46016420$bb82fea9@palladio1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks to whoever found out about this. If info about this bill shows up on the internet somewhere, let us know, as I'd like to check it out, and maybe even attend the hearing. jib --- Paul Wilson wrote: > According to Fenty's email (Mark, he will start > blowing you off once he > finds out you live in--I think-- Ward 1) it will be > assigned to Cmte. on > Public Works. We need to find out when it's on the > calendar. Remember > history is written by those that show up. > > It's good that they're not invoking "emergency" > status. That means at least > three "readings" in front of the full council, as > well as Cmte. hearings. > That will give "us" time to figure out what's going > on. > > Here's the link to the bill reporting system. Not > quite > http://thomas.loc.gov, but it will have to do. It > doesn't appear to be in > the database yet. > > http://www.dccouncil.washington.dc.us/lims/SearchForm.asp > > Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Feb 5 10:45:04 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h15Fj47Q025900; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:45:04 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h15Fj3Ir025895; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:45:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: RE: No feet racing Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:44:55 -0500 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A666013E8F26@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: No feet racing Thread-Index: AcLNGPoXAYcL5u+1TvG9a6/jfsydpgAFDwSg From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id h15Fj17Q025883 I have a video clip of the "landing gear". The clip is put together by the shop that makes them, and they describe its workings and setup in detail. They also show some test runs. It's a ~50 meg clip, iirc. If anyone is interested, I can either email it to you, or put it on my server for d/l. Witold > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom de [mailto:tdeboeser@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:10 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: No feet racing > > > That is very cool... > > Wayne Edelen wrote: > > >A good friend of mine in my car club races his '94 B4C > Camaro. He ran in > >ITE(?) last year and is moving to the new American Iron Series run by > >NASA. In a car with nearly stock HP and saddled with an automatic > >tranny (hand controls) he runs at the front of the pack on a regular > >basis. > > > >http://www.sour-milk.org/nofeet.jpg > > > >He is a parapalegic, injured in a motorcycle accident in his youth. > > > >While I was taking my Keith Code school at VIR, there was a guy there > >racing an RC51. He was a parapalegic, but had 'landing > gear' on the bike. > >I told my friend about it and he started doign research. He found a > >picture of the guy on an RC51 website... > > > >http://www.sour-milk.org/51.jpg > > > >... and also found a company in CA that makes the kits. > He's decided to > >fab a kit himself with the help of his rollcage fabricator > and he already > >purchased a Suzuki TL1000S as his test bike :-) > > > >He should have the kit on the bike within the next month or > so. Should be > >interesting! He's very excited about the thought of riding again. > > > >-- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Feb 5 11:06:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h15G6M7Q026930; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:06:22 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h15G6JpL026915; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:06:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F145154C2@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" , "'KathleenLoerich@XXXXXX'" Subject: Food for thought Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:07:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Kathleen Loerich proposed, "If you had an opportunity to talk to representatives from the Maryland State Highway Administration (SHA), the Maryland Motor Vehicle Administration (MVA), Maryland State Police (MSP), and NHTSA (Region 3) representatives about motorcycle safety and motorcycling in general, what questions or comments would you have for them?" As a start, yesterday, I sent a message (at the bottom) to my District representatives. Some of you may recall last year's exchanges we had with Philip Sause, Program Coordinator of the Maryland Motorcycle Safety Program; Andrew Krajewski, Program Director Driver Education & Licensing, Maryland Motor Vehicle Administration ,Motorcycle Safety Program; plus a couple of comments from Grodsky. My version of the gist of the exchanges is: MD doesn't have enough instructors to offer more courses. They were considering recruiting more instructors, maybe wishing for more too. sigh. So, first question would be: What steps has the MD MVA taken to provide more MSF courses? What steps has the MD MVA taken to provide general driver education? Question two: What was the justification to spend resources on the "Rocket Rider" program? Specifically, because mishandling of a motorcycle is a public safety threat primarily only to the operator and not to others, why were valuable resources spent on them? Shouldn't those resources have been spent on SUV, trucks, and other heavy vehicles where mishandling those vehicles is a public safety threat to others than the operator? Question three: Generally, State Troopers appear to primarily scan the left lanes for speeders, rarely the right lanes or feeder lanes. However, the difference in speed and public safety threat is greater from speeders in the right lane and feeder lanes. What is the MSP comment? Question four: Over much of the civilized world (and some of the uncivilized portions) the left lane is reserved for passing. But, not in Maryland. Indeed, in Maryland, the common signal of flashing headlights as a courteous request to pass is illegal. I've heard, that the MVA and MSP support the status quo and have objected to freeing the left lane for passing as it would encourage aggressive driving. Is that objection true? If true, what is the basis for that opinion? Have the representatives driven in other portions of the world where the left lane is primarily for passing? Carl in Bethesda (Cynical) -----Original Message----- From: Custer, Carl Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:29 PM To: 'MD-Lee'; 'MD-Frosh' Cc: 'Gawthrop, Bill' Subject: Public Safety Compare Ohio to Maryland's effort. http://enquirer.com/editions/2003/02/03/loc_ohmotorcycle03.html Maryland doesn't offer enough courses to meet the demand. Carl S. Custer 8605 Hartsdale Ave Bethesda From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Feb 5 13:41:13 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h15IfC7Q030662; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:41:12 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h15IfAed030652; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:41:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:55:02 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: To: Subject: RE: No feet racing In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A666013E8F26@rnc1.rnchq.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services wrote: > I have a video clip of the "landing gear". The clip is put together by the shop that makes them, and they describe its workings and setup in detail. They also show some test runs. It's a ~50 meg clip, iirc. > > If anyone is interested, I can either email it to you, or put it on my server for d/l. > > Witold Does it have credits for dontbescaredracing.com in the video? -- Wayne From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Feb 5 14:22:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h15JMr7Q031827; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:22:53 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h15JMpw8031820; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:22:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <1dc.1baa042.2b72be7c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:22:36 EST Subject: Re: No feet racing To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 2/5/2003 1:41:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, wayne@XXXXXX writes: > I have a video clip of the "landing gear" Had one of these show up for an Experienced Rider Course (ERC) on a Goldwing once. While there are a few, a _VERY_ few who could benefit from this sort of rig I would never recommend it. Think about it, when going from a stop, riding, coming to a stop you must go from _steering_ like a car or trike, to _countersteering_ like a motorcycle when the wheels come up, and back to _steering_ again when they come down. The fellow in this case dropped his bike _3_ times in the first exercise! In an emergency stop the wheels would not be able to come down on time to hold the bike up for you, and falling after a panic stop is a damn good way to get run over. For a paraplegic I would recommend a hack or trike as a better solution, it is what I would do. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Feb 5 14:43:59 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h15Jhw7Q000392; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:43:58 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h15JhuVY000382; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:43:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: email.featureprice.com: apache set sender to herb@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <1044475207.3e416d4735043@email.featureprice.com> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:00:07 -0500 From: herb@XXXXXX To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:R1150RT References: <200302050000.h15001FV009813@dirty.meretrix.com> In-Reply-To: <200302050000.h15001FV009813@dirty.meretrix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 X-Originating-IP: 192.35.35.35 Daniel H. Brown wrote: > http://www.bmwbobs.com/showroom/R1150RT.html > 0.9% financing. Sigh. I sorta hate to say this, but I think I want one. Dan, Another bike you should consider IMHO is the '03 ST1300 Std and ABS versions. The ST13 has the same upright tour bike riding position, HP and torque but at a significant savings over the $16K BMW (not to mention the BMW reoccuring maintenance costs.) The Standard ST1300 retails @ $12,999 but can be had for ~ $11,500 at WVa Honda dealerships. The ABS model (with ABS, an electronic adjustable windshield and 4 way flashers) retails for $14,500. They are rare and in great demand so dealers are getting that or "a market di$$erential" at this time. Both versions are significantly cheaper than the BMW, however no cheap financing deals are available from Honda for the ST13 at this time. http://www.hondamotorcycles.com/motorcycles/touring_sport_touring/ Happy hunting. Herb '99 VFR '94 Magna ? '03 ST (possibly) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Feb 5 14:54:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h15Jst7Q001434; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:54:55 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h15JstlX001423; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:54:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:54:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:R1150RT In-Reply-To: <1044475207.3e416d4735043@email.featureprice.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 herb@XXXXXX wrote: > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:00:07 -0500 > From: herb@XXXXXX > To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" > Subject: Re:R1150RT > > Daniel H. Brown wrote: > > http://www.bmwbobs.com/showroom/R1150RT.html > > 0.9% financing. Sigh. I sorta hate to say this, but I think I want one. > > Dan, > > Another bike you should consider IMHO is the '03 ST1300 Std and ABS versions. > The ST13 has the same upright tour bike riding position, HP and torque but at a > significant savings over the $16K BMW (not to mention the BMW reoccuring I'd forgotten to mention that BMW is also making your first 5 payments. So, that 16K bike is more like a $14.5k bike. This is their 80th year anniversary. The deal last until the end of Feb. Still, deal or no deal, I think I'm going to opt for keeping the VFR going for a bit longer. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Feb 5 20:06:39 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1616d7Q007651; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:06:39 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h1616bYs007643; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:06:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 20:01:13 -0500 Subject: New Boots From: Bob McKeithen To: MGCL , DC Cycles Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Because of a painful condition in my left foot, wearing the pointy toed Italian type MC boots is becoming increasingly uncomfortable. I have been wearing a pair of Cruiserworks boots which are delightfully waterproof ,but the toes are too pointed. All the replacements I have looked at appear to be too "pointy" in the toe area. At least in the pictures the Combat Touring boots from Riders Warehouse look like they might work. Can any one offer specific info on how waterproof they are? The blurb in the catalog is a little vague. So can any one say, for instance, I followed the waterproofing directions and my feet stayed dry for xxxxxx length of time in a deluge. Thanks for the input Bob From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 02:01:52 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1671p7Q011822; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:01:51 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h1671gLQ011812; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:01:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: RE: No feet racing Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:01:31 -0500 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664092C2@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: No feet racing Thread-Index: AcLNRkfCuGbvxQWZR8SCfn7k5FA20QAZyFaQ From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" To: "Wayne Edelen" , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id h1671f7Q011795 Yes, that's the clip. Since their website seems to be down, you can d/l the clip from my website: http://www.witold.org/bike/leeslandinggear.wmv Witold Does it have credits for dontbescaredracing.com in the video? -- Wayne From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 06:27:08 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16BR67Q014214; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:27:06 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16BR4Fk014206; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:27:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "rich hall" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Biker Boyz Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 06:33:00 -0500 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id h16BR27Q014194 Crap. total crap. On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:34:11 -0500, "rich hall" wrote: >Guys that went to the screening, how was the movie? > >_________________________________________________________________ >STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 06:31:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16BVt7Q015158; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:31:55 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16BVsHX015149; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:31:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: BBoyz(with much give away) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 06:38:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id h16BVr7Q015137 I guess all that practicing in the rain with the fastest busa on the west coast really paid off so that fishburn could race that same bike on that curvey hilly 4 foot wide dirt road !!!! wow!!!! I particularly also disliked the racing sportbikes in the dirt circle track, and back alley when the movie first came on. I have one question, how come the stunt riders didnt' say to the director "look dude, this is total unbelievably stupid bullshit, would you like to know the real scenarios?" On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:28:34 -0500, "Jeff Wisecarver" wrote: >Heheheh >Unbelievably................unbelievable >A bunch of dork 18 yr old and and younger kids form a gang with yellow >bandanas around their faces and ski masks. I don't know what was more >funny, the fact that somebody was riding 180 with a motocross helmet and not >getting his head torn off or a guy riding 180 with no helmet, nontearing >eyes, and perfectly sculpted hair(and drunk). The ending was retarded too. > >I did laugh unexpectedly a couple of times though (maybe not at the >proper/correct time), and it was _sadly_ entertaining. > > > >----------- >Jeffrey C. Wisecarver >jeff_wisecarver@XXXXXX >Home (703)780-5421 >Cell (703)786-4723 >Work (703)550-9740 ext. 239 >'89 RED > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 07:47:24 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16ClO7Q016389; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:47:24 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16ClMcu016379; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:47:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:01:11 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: To: Subject: RE: No feet racing In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664092C2@rnc1.rnchq.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services wrote: > Yes, that's the clip. Since their website seems to be down, you can d/l the clip from my website: > > http://www.witold.org/bike/leeslandinggear.wmv > > Witold My friend, Bergie, who owns/races a ZX12 made that clip for our friend Dave. They got the promo video and he put it on the web. He lost his webhost so dontbescaredracing.com is down temporarily. Thanks for putting the video online, Witold. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 09:03:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16E3Z7Q017689; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:03:35 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16E3RAL017679; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:03:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030206140324.50551.qmail@web9707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:03:24 -0800 (PST) From: Scratch Subject: survey To: DCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=34118166801. Georgetown Univ motorcycle survey.... __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 09:53:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16Ert7Q019703; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:53:55 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16ErqeW019696; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:53:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E427672.FA893251@tasam.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 09:51:30 -0500 From: Skip Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Motor PsychoL Danny , DC Cycles Subject: Re: BBoyz(with much give away) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > > I guess all that practicing in the rain with the fastest busa on the > west coast really paid off so that fishburn could race that same bike > on that curvey hilly 4 foot wide dirt road !!!! wow!!!! > > I particularly also disliked the racing sportbikes in the dirt circle > track, and back alley when the movie first came on. > > I have one question, how come the stunt riders didnt' say to the > director "look dude, this is total unbelievably stupid bullshit, > would you like to know the real scenarios?" because they were paid to ride, not to direct. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 09:57:28 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16EvS7Q020654; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:57:28 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16EvQm4020647; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:57:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Jim McGonigle" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: BBoyz(with much give away) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:56:05 -0500 Organization: BroadSoft Message-ID: <002801c2cdef$e30ca610$8101a8c0@jmcgonigle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3E427672.FA893251@tasam.com> Maybe its because it's a movie... I can't think of a recent realistic one about motorsports Days of Thunder, Fast and the Furious... Suspension of reality, it's not always a good thing! :) -Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Skip Smith [mailto:skip@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:52 AM > To: Motor PsychoL Danny; DC Cycles > Subject: Re: BBoyz(with much give away) > > > > Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > > > > I guess all that practicing in the rain with the fastest busa on the > > west coast really paid off so that fishburn could race that > same bike > > on that curvey hilly 4 foot wide dirt road !!!! wow!!!! > > > > I particularly also disliked the racing sportbikes in the > dirt circle > > track, and back alley when the movie first came on. > > > > I have one question, how come the stunt riders didnt' say to the > > director "look dude, this is total unbelievably stupid bullshit, > > would you like to know the real scenarios?" > > because they were paid to ride, not to direct. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 10:05:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16F5m7Q021628; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:05:48 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16F5gn7021617; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:05:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <005301c2cdf1$32c15a60$280310ac@ddlomni.com> From: "Jon Strang" To: "Scratch" , "DCC" References: <20030206140324.50551.qmail@web9707.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: survey Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:05:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2003 15:05:34.0233 (UTC) FILETIME=[32C44090:01C2CDF1] f- them. they didn't include Suzuki as a brand of current m/c. I guess I should buy that Tuono after all. --jon 01 Soozuekee Bandit 1200 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scratch" To: "DCC" Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:03 AM Subject: survey > http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=34118166801. > Georgetown Univ motorcycle survey.... > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 10:56:31 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16FuV7Q022901; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:56:31 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16FuThO022891; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:56:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: DCC Subject: Re: survey Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:53:01 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <20030206140324.50551.qmail@web9707.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20030206140324.50551.qmail@web9707.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <030206105301A7.02506@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thursday 06 February 2003 09:03, Scratch wrote: > http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=34118166801. > Georgetown Univ motorcycle survey.... > I love some of the answers. At least one person has been seduced by the insurance folks. They put "Geico" under pets when they probably meant "gecko". Someone has "wife" as a pet. There are lots of birds and fish that probably should have been in the original list. Carl -- There is no patch for stupidity. Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 11:04:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16G4I7Q023878; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:04:18 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16G4H1J023863; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:04:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E4288BF.E9872FDF@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:09:36 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scratch CC: DCC Subject: Re: survey References: <20030206140324.50551.qmail@web9707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heavy Beemer response considering BMW only has a coiuple percent share of the market. I guess the organized Luv my Beemer reponse came from those who haven't had their trannys croak or suffered whiplash from the surge problems that BMW refuses to acknowledge. :-) Bill No yuppie scoot fer me... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 11:30:45 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16GUh7Q024988; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:30:43 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16GUO6J024978; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:30:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:30:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: DCC Subject: Re: survey In-Reply-To: <3E4288BF.E9872FDF@patriot.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, William J. Huson wrote: > Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:09:36 -0500 > From: "William J. Huson" > > Bill > No yuppie scoot fer me... > What? You sold the Harley? -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 11:48:18 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16GmI7Q025996; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:48:18 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16GmFSH025981; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:48:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E429312.70856215@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:53:38 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel H. Brown" CC: DCC Subject: Re: survey References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Daniel H. Brown" wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, William J. Huson wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:09:36 -0500 > > From: "William J. Huson" > > > > Bill > > No yuppie scoot fer me... > > > > What? You sold the Harley? > Nope, still have the bagger, but it's not an RUB Yuppie special. Too much dirt, not enough chrome, and way too many miles on the OD. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 12:00:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16H017Q027002; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:00:01 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16GxvAN026980; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:59:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <200302061653.QDA48197@vmms2.verisignmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:54:06 -0500 From: Dave Yates Subject: Re: survey To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 2.9.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Bill said: >> No yuppie scoot fer me... >> > Dan sarcastically chided: >What? You sold the Harley? > [Dave] SHYEAH. 2 things that NOBODY will think upon seeing Bill, and or his HD are : 1) yuppie 2) RUB . Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 13:32:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16IWe7Q028548; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:32:40 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16IWYgx028533; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:32:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030206183228.13833.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:32:28 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Bandit 400 For Sale on web To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There was some talk about these bikes not long ago on dccycles. Here's one for sale if anyone's interested. It's not mine nor does it belong to anyone I know. http://www.dcsportbikes.com/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=9&TopicID=300&PagePosition=1 Chris Weaver __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 15:01:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16K127Q030803; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:01:02 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16K0sww030781; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:00:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20030206140221.00a18610@mail.mac.com> X-Sender: eternity23@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:03:16 -0600 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: Bandit 400 For Sale on web In-Reply-To: <20030206183228.13833.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed These are great bikes. Rev-happy little motor, great performance, and VERY quick steering. My only complaint was the single disc front brake setup; not enough stopping power for my tastes. Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 15:27:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h16KRY7Q031854; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:27:34 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h16KRRf8031843; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:27:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [166.94.9.205] From: "Jeff Wisecarver" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Biker Boyz 2 coming soon! Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 15:27:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2003 20:27:03.0607 (UTC) FILETIME=[1C212470:01C2CE1E] The next installment....(window's media file video)~30 megs http://www.curbmonkey.com/scootermania_II_part1.wmv ----------- Jeffrey C. Wisecarver jeff_wisecarver@XXXXXX Home (703)780-5421 Cell (703)786-4723 Work (703)550-9740 ext. 239 '89 RED ----Original Message Follows---- From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bandit 400 For Sale on web Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:03:16 -0600 These are great bikes. Rev-happy little motor, great performance, and VERY quick steering. My only complaint was the single disc front brake setup; not enough stopping power for my tastes. Sean Jordan _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 19:45:35 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h170jZ7Q006908; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:45:35 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h170jXp6006901; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:45:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E4301D4.7E63A781@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 19:46:12 -0500 From: "Steven C. Di Pietro" Organization: The Suzuki Owners Club - U.S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Motor PsychoL Danny CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: BBoyz(with much give away) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out004.verizon.net from [141.157.125.54] at Thu, 6 Feb 2003 18:45:21 -0600 Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > I guess all that practicing in the rain with the fastest busa on the > west coast really paid off so that fishburn could race that same bike > on that curvey hilly 4 foot wide dirt road !!!! wow!!!! > > I particularly also disliked the racing sportbikes in the dirt circle > track, and back alley when the movie first came on. > > I have one question, how come the stunt riders didnt' say to the > director "look dude, this is total unbelievably stupid bullshit, > would you like to know the real scenarios?" > Exactly..... What got me, was how they could strap up a helmet with full race style gloves on. NOT! But, I still liked the movie for some reason. I'll be buying the DVD when it comes out. Steven C. Di Pietro Interim National Director Assistant National Director National Marketing Coordinator Suzuki Owners Club USA 142 Circle Road Pasadena Md. 21122-6036 http://www.soc-usa.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 21:11:55 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h172Bt7Q008297; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 21:11:55 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h172BrOo008281; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 21:11:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [4.65.179.218] From: "Adam Wah" To: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 01:53:01 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2003 01:53:01.0250 (UTC) FILETIME=[A564A220:01C2CE4B] Bill wrote> Heavy Beemer response considering BMW only has a couple percent share of the market. I guess the organized Luv my Beemer reponse came from those who haven't had their trannys croak or suffered whiplash from the surge problems that BMW refuses to acknowledge. :-) ================================================================= The old Airheads were nice since you could perform most maintainence chores yourself... the K's and now the oilheads require a shop. Hope you live close to one as the dealerships are few and far between. Just look at the DC area... Bob's in Jessup and Morton's in Spotsylvania... wide dispertion... buy a BMW and you end up with a trailer or a pickup to haul it back and forth to shops for maintainence. What's the mileage between the two? Close to 75 miles I'll bet. There are other mechs around who can do the work like Phams in Alexandria... get out west a bit and the mileage between shops increases. There might be 2 in Tennessee alltogether. Honda offers many more franchises to choose from. Again... routine maintainence is still relegated to the trained technicians and not the shade tree's and a routine trip to a Honda dealer runs high. That's the problem I have with most new bikes... so I'm sticking with the older technology... at least I can still tune mine up in the driveway. Of course I may just be gun shy by all the chipsets etc... HD? Never trusted the engineering. I remember the terrible record and maintainence intervals they experienced with the shovels, pans and knuckles... my dad rode HD's so I learned from observation that they were no picnic to keep adequately maintained. I'd get a Goldwing but the $400 maintainence bills scare me. So I'm sticking with the BMW airhead... my significant other doesn't like the 2-up ergonomics... what's a cheap bastard like myself to do? Any comments? _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Feb 6 23:04:34 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h1744X7Q010720; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:04:33 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h1744Wxr010710; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:04:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 23:04:30 -0500 Subject: Re: survey From: Stephen Miller To: DCC Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit ROTFL on 2/6/03 11:30 AM, Daniel H. Brown at brown@XXXXXX wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, William J. Huson wrote: > >> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:09:36 -0500 >> From: "William J. Huson" >> >> Bill >> No yuppie scoot fer me... >> > > What? You sold the Harley? > > > > -- > Dan Brown > brown@XXXXXX > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 07:21:03 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17CL27Q014714; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 07:21:02 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17CKxiO014702; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 07:20:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <003801c2cea3$5a7392f0$6600a8c0@michael> Reply-To: "Michael Jordan" From: "Michael Jordan" To: References: <5.1.1.6.0.20030206140221.00a18610@mail.mac.com> Subject: Re: Bandit 400 For Sale on web Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 07:20:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-ELNK-Trace: 599158c4802a0bc829d2c221526d1bab239a348a220c2609ae7c09cbfc1bfc6af55cdf807e90296f93caf27dac41a8fd350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c > My only complaint was the single disc front brake setup; > not enough stopping power for my tastes. > > Sean Jordan Two possibilities: (a) install a second disk or (b) lose weight Michael J. ;-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 08:57:56 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17Dvs7Q016170; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:57:54 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17DvpZc016160; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:57:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 08:57:59 -0500 Subject: Re: Bandit 400 For Sale on web From: Stephen Miller To: Sean Jordan , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20030206140221.00a18610@mail.mac.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I've got a few hundred Bandit 400 miles under my belt, and never thought the brakes were a problem. It feels like it'll stop just as quickly as my SV 650 with dual discs. I wish more-modern 400cc sportbikes were available here in the states, like the insanely high-revving CBR400RR. on 2/6/03 3:03 PM, Sean Jordan at eternity23@XXXXXX wrote: > These are great bikes. Rev-happy little motor, great performance, and VERY > quick steering. My only complaint was the single disc front brake setup; > not enough stopping power for my tastes. > > Sean Jordan > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 09:01:57 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17E1v7Q017145; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:01:57 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17E1tLZ017138; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:01:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:15:26 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Bandit 400 For Sale on web In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Stephen Miller wrote: > I've got a few hundred Bandit 400 miles under my belt, and never thought the > brakes were a problem. It feels like it'll stop just as quickly as my SV > 650 with dual discs. > > I wish more-modern 400cc sportbikes were available here in the states, like > the insanely high-revving CBR400RR. If there were more choices like that, it might encourage beginners to start on smaller bikes, instead of 120hp 600s :-\ They could still have a sportbike, but one that was a bit more forgiving. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 09:03:16 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17E3G7Q017683; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:03:16 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17E3Co4017677; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:03:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <003101c2ceb1$a16aa7d0$280310ac@ddlomni.com> From: "Jon Strang" To: "Stephen Miller" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Bandit 400 For Sale on web Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:03:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2003 14:03:04.0150 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1F4BF60:01C2CEB1] Go to the Bandit Tech forum on www.maximum-suzuki.com . I'm sure there will be something on improving the brakes on the little Bandit. Lots of guys there race 'em. My guess is s/s lines and HH pads give you easy one or two-fingered stoppies. --jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Miller" To: "Sean Jordan" ; Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:57 AM Subject: Re: Bandit 400 For Sale on web > I've got a few hundred Bandit 400 miles under my belt, and never thought the > brakes were a problem. It feels like it'll stop just as quickly as my SV > 650 with dual discs. > > I wish more-modern 400cc sportbikes were available here in the states, like > the insanely high-revving CBR400RR. > > on 2/6/03 3:03 PM, Sean Jordan at eternity23@XXXXXX wrote: > > > These are great bikes. Rev-happy little motor, great performance, and VERY > > quick steering. My only complaint was the single disc front brake setup; > > not enough stopping power for my tastes. > > > > Sean Jordan > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 09:12:53 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17ECq7Q019064; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:12:52 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17ECqSG019054; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:12:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Jim McGonigle" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Bandit 400 For Sale on web Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:11:38 -0500 Organization: BroadSoft Message-ID: <003101c2ceb2$d826b0b0$8101a8c0@jmcgonigle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: Not to mention insurance would be cheaper. > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Edelen [mailto:wayne@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:15 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Bandit 400 For Sale on web > > > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Stephen Miller wrote: > > > I've got a few hundred Bandit 400 miles under my belt, and > never thought the > > brakes were a problem. It feels like it'll stop just as > quickly as my SV > > 650 with dual discs. > > > > I wish more-modern 400cc sportbikes were available here in > the states, like > > the insanely high-revving CBR400RR. > > If there were more choices like that, it might encourage beginners to > start on smaller bikes, instead of 120hp 600s :-\ They > could still have > a sportbike, but one that was a bit more forgiving. > > -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 09:15:42 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17EFg7Q020011; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:15:42 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17EFfst020006; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:15:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:29:17 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Bandit 400 For Sale on web In-Reply-To: <003101c2ceb2$d826b0b0$8101a8c0@jmcgonigle> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Jim McGonigle wrote: > Not to mention insurance would be cheaper. NFW, insurance companies would still find some reason to charge a couple $k/year. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 09:18:10 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17EIA7Q020069; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:18:10 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17EI9co020064; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:18:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Jim McGonigle" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Bandit 400 For Sale on web Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:16:54 -0500 Organization: BroadSoft Message-ID: <003201c2ceb3$94981d60$8101a8c0@jmcgonigle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: Not to mention insurance would be cheaper since no "real man" would drive a sissy 400! ;) ;) They will all be out wreaking their bigger bikes. > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Edelen [mailto:wayne@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:15 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Bandit 400 For Sale on web > > > On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Stephen Miller wrote: > > > I've got a few hundred Bandit 400 miles under my belt, and > never thought the > > brakes were a problem. It feels like it'll stop just as > quickly as my SV > > 650 with dual discs. > > > > I wish more-modern 400cc sportbikes were available here in > the states, like > > the insanely high-revving CBR400RR. > > If there were more choices like that, it might encourage beginners to > start on smaller bikes, instead of 120hp 600s :-\ They > could still have > a sportbike, but one that was a bit more forgiving. > > -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 10:08:09 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17F897Q023031; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:08:09 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17F88aI023020; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:08:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 15:04:04 +0000 From: "Wood, Sally" Subject: Re: Biker Boyz To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >From "Motor PsychoL Danny": Guys that went to the screening, how was the movie? "rich hall" wrote: Crap. total crap. You are being too kind, Rich! ;^) This was the absolute worst 25 minutes of film I've seen (we couldn't take any more). A ridiculous charade in which the bikes were scarcely featured. Larry Fishburn must have owed somebody a big favor. Sally Weaver '01 YZF600R From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 10:08:54 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17F8r7Q023080; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:08:53 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17F8nLS023073; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:08:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Dave Yates Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: survey Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:15:06 -0500 Message-ID: References: <200302061653.QDA48197@vmms2.verisignmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200302061653.QDA48197@vmms2.verisignmail.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id h17F8j7Q023061 ok they ask if you own more than one, and then they ask you what type. what if you own more than one and they are different brands, yet you can only click other i guess.. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 10:22:02 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17FLx7Q024967; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:21:59 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17FLsBK024952; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:21:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [134.113.4.168] From: "Paul Hutchins" To: Cc: "Adam Wah" References: Subject: Re: Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:10:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Feb 2003 15:10:38.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[126FD3C0:01C2CEBB] Adam, Seriously look at the 00'-01 VFR. Valve clearance check every 16,000 miles (with gear driven cams). The valve check can be done by a shade tree mechanic with decent tools and a torque wrench. Starter valve sync requires a set of gauges (~ $100 for a good set). There are VFR listers in the area who alreaady have the gauges and are happy to assist. Everything else is basically changing the fluids. A "tune-up" on my VFR is twisting a few valve sync screws with a gauge hooked up. Swapping plugs takes 15 minutes. Changing the air filter takes 5 minutes. Changing oil takes 30 minutes (you have to remove the left fairing to get to the oil filter). You get the idea. I put 30,000 on my first '00 with no valve adjust required. I replaced the chain/sprockets and synced the starter valves. The only other 'routine' maintenance was oil, brake, and coolant changes. Too bad I crashed it... Guess what I bought to replace it? I'm not exaggerating... Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Wah" To: Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:53 PM -snip- > > That's the problem I have with most new bikes... so I'm sticking with the > older technology... at least I can still tune mine up in the driveway. Of > course I may just be gun shy by all the chipsets etc... > -snip- > I'd get a Goldwing but the $400 maintainence bills scare me. So I'm > sticking with the BMW airhead... my significant other doesn't like the 2-up > ergonomics... what's a cheap bastard like myself to do? > > Any comments? > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 10:33:23 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17FXM7Q025063; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:33:22 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17FXFKV025053; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:33:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030207153250.9199.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 07:32:50 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Who Rode In Today? (n/m) To: DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 10:49:51 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17Fnp7Q027850; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:49:51 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17FnocY027840; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:49:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E43D431.2F419D0A@carlparker.com> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:43:45 -0500 From: Carl Parker Reply-To: carl@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DCCycles Subject: RE: BBoyz(with much give away) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sweet! I've been wondering when we'd get a BBoyz trashing session going! To be sure, it was going to be crap movie from the previews. Even more so, it was bound to make a bad rap for the other 99.9% of the riders out there who aren't total squidly dumb-asses (although I have to admit I'd kinda like to be able to do stoppies at will) and aren't computer animated. Fookin' Hollywood duz' it again! Jim Sed... >Suspension of reality, it's not always a good thing! :) More like stuck it into a Titan rocket and hurled it into infinite stupidity . Cheers! There's snow outside! ;^P Carl Parker From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 11:02:29 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17G2T7Q028867; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:02:29 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17G2QdM028858; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:02:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" To: "'Wood, Sally'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Biker Boyz Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:02:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain I saw the movie and thought it was ok. I went in not expecting a academy award winner. I also think having consumed a large amount of alcohol helped also. -----Original Message----- From: Wood, Sally [mailto:sally.wood@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:04 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Biker Boyz >From "Motor PsychoL Danny": Guys that went to the screening, how was the movie? "rich hall" wrote: Crap. total crap. You are being too kind, Rich! ;^) This was the absolute worst 25 minutes of film I've seen (we couldn't take any more). A ridiculous charade in which the bikes were scarcely featured. Larry Fishburn must have owed somebody a big favor. Sally Weaver '01 YZF600R From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 12:01:48 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17H1m7Q030167; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:01:48 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17H1kvq030157; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:01:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3E43E7BD.3E764FDC@patriot.net> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 12:07:09 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Kitchell CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Who Rode In Today? (n/m) References: <20030207153250.9199.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Kitchell wrote: Who Rode In Today? HAR! I haven't even stuck my face outside today. Bill - hibernating From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 12:30:38 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17HUc7Q031253; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:30:38 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17HUc6K031243; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:30:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030207173029.35090.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:30:29 -0800 (PST) From: Isaac Blanck Subject: Re: Who Rode In Today? (n/m) To: "William J. Huson" , Mark Kitchell Cc: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <3E43E7BD.3E764FDC@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not today, but hopefully tomorrow. jib --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > Mark Kitchell wrote: > > Who Rode In Today? > > HAR! I haven't even stuck my face outside today. > > Bill - hibernating > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 12:41:40 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17Hfd7Q032255; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:41:39 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17HfdGc032246; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:41:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:41:34 -0500 Message-Id: <200302071241.AA14090828@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Who Rode In Today? (n/m) X-Mailer: Nope, not here either. [Hanging head in shame] Took until 10am to get the car and truck dug out. Set the kids to dig a path down to the garage where the bikes are. Sidecar tomorrow! Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Isaac Blanck Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:30:29 -0800 (PST) >Not today, but hopefully tomorrow. jib >--- "William J. Huson" wrote: >> Mark Kitchell wrote: >> >> Who Rode In Today? >> >> HAR! I haven't even stuck my face outside today. >> >> Bill - hibernating >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. >http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 13:16:46 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17IGk7Q000906; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:16:46 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17IGTpr000896; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:16:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 13:16:12 -0500 From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Riding? Today? MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <7A7CFD2C.6D04BDA6.0BE1AB0E@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Although I didn't ride my bike in, I'm proud of my effort to get out of the house! I inhereited 3 kids from my moving in with my SO and have found how life with 3 children is highly motivating... 1. jumping out of bed at 5:30 each morning to rush out the door before the whining begins is considered aerobic exercise 2. getting ready for bed at 7:30 PM is referred to as strategic planning going to bed at 8:30 are now deemed brainstorming sessions 3. shoveling 6" of snow off 2 cars, the porch/steps, a 6-car driveway, putting the Tracker into 4-wheel drive and waving goodbye to the father of 3 precious children who will be trapped inside a 1000 sq. ft. home for 24 hours is called... highly intelligent Taking a bow. Paula, aka LilBkrBabe I slay myself From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 13:34:17 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17IYH7Q002894; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:34:17 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17IYFfl002883; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:34:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030207183410.41359.qmail@web14008.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:34:09 -0800 (PST) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Who Rode In Today? (n/m) To: Mark Kitchell , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20030207153250.9199.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I did Leon. --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > > > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 13:58:07 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17Iw77Q003915; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:58:07 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17IvwhF003905; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:57:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "Kathleen Loerich" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Food for thought Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 14:04:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: <00f901c2cc9f$397e2570$0500a8c0@ELECTRAGLIDE> In-Reply-To: <00f901c2cc9f$397e2570$0500a8c0@ELECTRAGLIDE> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id h17Ivv7Q003893 1. HOV lanes are wonderful. (not as much as people get privledges, but because it allows a passing lane for the flow of traffic not to get backed up. It's better for a kid to illegally ride in the HOV lane and eventually get caught, than for him to always weave in and out of traffic congestion and cause an accident.) Giving motorcycles access to HOV is wonderful. 2. stop light filtering eases congestion, allows cars to be in spaces bikes would take up. 3. motorcycle law breakers is a self fixing problem. Spending money on catching them is a waste. It's much better to go after weaving swerving young punk drivers, than motorcycles or any other speeders. 4. Encourage slow lane tickets so that cars stay out of the slow lane so that traffic may exit and enter the high way easier, thus aiding congestion. Why idiots want to speed in the slow lane with merging traffic is beyond me. 5. Go after failure to signal and discourteous drivers. signalling makes people check where theyre going. 6. go after more peole who hold up the flow of traffic and cause congestion. people who take up two lanes.. people who try to exit from the 2nd lane over. illegal lane changes. 7. people speeding in the left lane aren' tcuasing accidents, people who swerving and disobeying the other rules of the road are causing the accidents. go after them when going on a ticketting campaign, not speeders. On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:46:14 -0500, "Kathleen Loerich" wrote: >If you had an opportunity to talk to representatives from the Maryland State >Highway Administration (SHA), the Maryland Motor Vehicle Administration >(MVA), Maryland State Police (MSP), and NHTSA (Region 3) representatives >about motorcycle safety and motorcycling in general, what questions or >comments would you have for them? > >k.loerich > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 14:07:47 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17J7l7Q004913; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:07:47 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17J7krK004905; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:07:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20030207190739.11259.qmail@web40904.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:07:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Who Rode In Today? (n/m) To: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20030207183410.41359.qmail@web14008.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Leon Begeman wrote: > I did > Leon. > --- Mark Kitchell wrote: One of my co-workers saw News 8 show someone riding in on a motorcycle. He thought it was me. Nope, my bike is still at the shop. He couldn't give a good description, so I don't know if it was Leon or someone else. Louis __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 14:26:01 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17JQ07Q005932; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:26:00 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17JPqPi005922; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:25:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Jim McGonigle" To: Subject: RE: Food for thought Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:24:31 -0500 Organization: BroadSoft Message-ID: <007b01c2cede$8fd5cbd0$8101a8c0@jmcgonigle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: Well, I wouldn't need to if the slow drivers aren't always in the left lanes. The right lane is usually the empty lane which is usually fastest. Amen to the rest... > 4. Encourage slow lane tickets so that cars stay out of the slow > lane so that traffic may exit and enter the high way easier, thus > aiding congestion. Why idiots want to speed in the slow lane with > merging traffic is beyond me. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Feb 7 14:31:22 2003 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h17JVM7Q006899; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:31:22 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id h17JVKmR006890; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:31:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:44:40 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: To: Subject: RE: Food for thought In-Reply-To: <007b01c2cede$8fd5cbd0$8101a8c0@jmcgonigle> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, Jim McGonigle wrote: > Well, I wouldn't need to if the slow drivers aren't always in the left > lanes. The right lane is usually the empty lane which is usually > fastest. For some reason everyone drives in the left lane on 270 in MD. I can only think that the HOV lanes have something to do with it, as it seems worse since they came into use. Driving along during