From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Dec 1 08:26:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB1DQdO7003910; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:26:39 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB1DQcJk003900; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:26:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <15.3743126.2b1b6804@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 08:26:28 EST Subject: Re: Warning! DMV registration defaults charge the anniversary fee To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 11/30/2002 2:58:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, pawilson@XXXXXX writes: > A more important aspect of the budget crunch might be the raiding of the > licensure fee fund that supports motorcycle rider training. Exit polls showed that sort of raid to be one of the primary reason the $.0005 "dedicated" sales tax increase failed to pass in the last election. People have become aware of just how easy those dedicated funds are to raid and simply did not believe that the funds would be used for highways as advertised. State after state has raided "motorcycle education only" funds for other uses. Bas&$#ds did it to themselves and wander around wondering why.... John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Dec 1 12:16:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB1HGvO7005419; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:16:57 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB1HGu21005412; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:16:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <093b01c2995d$62a4c910$8e2e2c42@D7XFG711> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Dave Yates" , References: <033f01c298df$1a4406f0$20fea8c0@david> Subject: Re: Virginny DMV Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:16:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > > [Dave] Yes, but the point of it all was to ENCOURAGE online use by granting > us, in a magnanimous gesture, a pittance for not troubling the DMV commisars > with our petty needs. I agree, it's nice not to have to sit in line for an > hour and be able to conduct business online, my point was there were other > cuts to other agencies that should've come 1st. > Then, Adam goes on to stir the pot more: > I don't know much about the current conditions in VA, but there are creative ways of encouraging less walk-in load on the DC DMV offices and paring it down to those who really need face time with a clerk, for new titles and whatnot. One way it to offer a discount for those renewing registrations for two years and discounts for use of drop boxes at public libraries, mail-in and on-line registrations. Right now I costs me the same, but it cuts in half the opportunities for DMV to screw something up, so it's worth it, I guess, to renew on-line for two years, rather than one. Paul in DC 95 VFR - 86 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Dec 1 12:37:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB1HbIO7006115; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:37:18 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB1HbIYa006108; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:37:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <09b601c29960$3b4d0a50$8e2e2c42@D7XFG711> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: Black ice Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 12:36:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 It's time for Uncle Paulie's annual black ice reminder. The intersection of Mass Ave. and New Jersey Ave. was covered in ice this morning, thanks to a busted water main. Be careful out there. DC WASA fixes the geysers but the "little leakers" keep piddling all winter. Paul in DC 95 VFR - 86 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Dec 1 20:16:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB21GOO7011507; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 20:16:24 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB21GOOF011500; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 20:16:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <015b01c29994$12a1d340$a3765c0c@micron> From: "Mobacc \(now @ATT\)" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Deer doings Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:47:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Just saw something a few days ago about a deer on Rock Creek Pkwy at Virginia Ave. -- near Watergate -- it's radar readjustment time. From what I hear, urban bears are next. And the following popped up. It's a longer recount of general deer concerns, but the meatier last paras copied below. Check that surprise no. in neighbor NJ. "4 Wheels, 4 Legs and No Winners" .http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/29/travel/escapes/29DEER.html (may have to register) . .. If I had been thinking, I might even have benefited in one small way from the accident. According to Peter Constantakes, a spokesman for the New York Department of Environmental Conservation, once a motorist has hit a deer and the proper tag has been issued, the motorist is allowed to take the deer home and eat it. That would be a very gratifying meal, if you ask me. Safety Tips HERE are some tips on how to prevent or deal with a deer-car collision, gleaned from the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation and the Insurance Information Institute. )B• Be particularly cautious during the mating season, which peaks in mid-November. )B• Slow down if you see deer by the side of the road. )B• If one deer crosses the highway, a second and third may be right behind. )B• Do not swerve to try to avoid a deer; keep your car headed straight even if it means hitting the deer. )B• Report the accident to the highway patrol or local sheriff's department. )B• Don't try to move the deer carcass off the road; leave that job to the professionals. )B• Eat the deer. Is anywhere safe? Hawaii may be the only state that is truly secure from deer-car accidents, but if you're planning a drive in deer mating season, it's worth knowing that some states have a worse problem than others. Not all states collect statistics on deer-car collisions, but here are figures from some that do; all are annual numbers and all are for 2001 except where otherwise indicated. Connecticut 3,098 (2000) New York 8,570 New Jersey 20,100 Illinois 22,933 Ohio 31,586 Wisconsin 45,278 (for year ended June 2002) Georgia 51,000 Michigan 66,993 Bill S. / DC '99 VN750 > Want a "leapjet" to jump over the cuties. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Dec 1 20:30:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB21UZO7012249; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 20:30:35 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB21UYYB012241; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 20:30:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021202013032.52451.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:30:32 -0800 (PST) From: Isaac Blanck Subject: Really Warm Gloves/Mittens To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This past Thur I rode up to Lancaster County, PA, and it was freakin' cooooooooold! It hit my fingers the worst, and I had winter moto gloves on. But they weren't warm enough. Anyone have recommendations for superwarm gloves? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Dec 1 21:48:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB22mcO7013204; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:48:38 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB22mZkV013194; Sun, 1 Dec 2002 21:48:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.48.118.251] From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Really Warm Gloves/Mittens Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 21:36:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Dec 2002 02:36:29.0085 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E1B6CD0:01C299AB] Yeah........Gerbings! http://www.gerbing.com/ Rob '98 VFR800 From: Isaac Blanck To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Really Warm Gloves/Mittens Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 17:30:32 -0800 (PST) This past Thur I rode up to Lancaster County, PA, and it was freakin' cooooooooold! It hit my fingers the worst, and I had winter moto gloves on. But they weren't warm enough. Anyone have recommendations for superwarm gloves? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 06:10:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2BAjO7016175; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 06:10:45 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2BAiV1016165; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 06:10:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Vacation Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 06:10:36 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02120206103670.09051@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ok, I'm going to stop posting my vacation plans to the list. That's two bike vacations that have been cancelled due to outside reasons after I posted my plans to the list. My bike is _still_ at East Coast and I'm at work today. Ah well, I guess missing "The Storm of The Century" in Ohio was probably for the best. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 08:26:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2DQiO7017174; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:26:44 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2DQh1l017164; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:26:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVb4nh7GezCPJSkiAOGfLO9w6qjS3gM1cml9Cz1hEZ3rHt3XaMncXSqOUB6n5LKg6yE= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Really Warm Gloves/Mittens Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:26:40 -0500 Message-ID: <010501c29a06$7328cc10$0d0312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20021202013032.52451.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> www.widder.com You'll never go back once you try electrics. -----Original Message----- From: Isaac Blanck [mailto:thelostshark@XXXXXX] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:31 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Really Warm Gloves/Mittens This past Thur I rode up to Lancaster County, PA, and it was freakin' cooooooooold! It hit my fingers the worst, and I had winter moto gloves on. But they weren't warm enough. Anyone have recommendations for superwarm gloves? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 08:36:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2Da9O7017534; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:36:09 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2Da9M0017524; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:36:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DEB6307.2CC9C9C@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 08:41:27 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Isaac Blanck CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Really Warm Gloves/Mittens References: <20021202013032.52451.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Isaac Blanck wrote: > This past Thur I rode up to Lancaster County, PA, and > it was freakin' cooooooooold! It hit my fingers the > worst, and I had winter moto gloves on. But they > weren't warm enough. Anyone have recommendations for > superwarm gloves? Snowmobile gloves. Toasty below freezing at highway speeds. I also have a snowmobile jump-suit. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 08:44:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2DipO7017887; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:44:51 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2Dipar017879; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:44:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:44:43 EST Subject: Re: Deer doings To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id gB2DioO7017867 In a message dated 12/1/2002 8:16:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, mobacc@XXXXXX writes: > )B· Don't try to move the deer carcass off the road; leave that job to the > professionals. > )B· Eat the deer. ????????? Now that just aint right! Are we allowed to start a fire on the side of the road to cook the thing? Or do we have to eat it raw? It seems to me that a family eating a deer on the side of the road would tend to slow traffic down considerably. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 08:48:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2DmUO7018226; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:48:30 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2DmUEq018217; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:48:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 08:48:12 EST Subject: Re: Really Warm Gloves/Mittens To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 Thanks for the link. I was planning to got there as soon as I finished reading my E. I will be working at night through January and just _may_ need some electrics. John (just starting to feel his fingers again after last night.) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 10:22:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2FMMO7019100; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:22:22 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2FMLM0019090; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:22:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021202152218.6356.qmail@web14005.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 07:22:18 -0800 (PST) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Black ice To: Paul Wilson , DC-CYCLES In-Reply-To: <09b601c29960$3b4d0a50$8e2e2c42@D7XFG711> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There's also a small spot on the HOV lanes of I95/395. One of the new overpasses leaks water onto the roadway. It should be pretty easy to roll straight over that one, but the bike still wiggled this morning when it did. Leon. --- Paul Wilson wrote: > It's time for Uncle Paulie's annual black ice > reminder. The intersection of > Mass Ave. and New Jersey Ave. was covered in ice > this morning, thanks to a > busted water main. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 12:07:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2H7vO7020161; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:07:57 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2H7unI020151; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:07:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021202170754.9982.qmail@web13903.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 09:07:54 -0800 (PST) From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Deer doings To: "Mobacc \(now @ATT\)" , DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: <015b01c29994$12a1d340$a3765c0c@micron> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "Mobacc (now @ATT)" wrote: >...Check that surprise no. in neighbor NJ. > New Jersey 20,100 No surprise at all, really. NJ has been overrun with deer for over 25 years. Downtown Princeton has tried programs of providing sterilizing/contraceptive feed, special hunting seasons, etc. to no avail. -- Larry __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 13:25:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2IP2O7020935; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 13:25:02 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2IOuqR020914; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 13:24:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021202182454.982.qmail@web13906.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:24:54 -0800 (PST) From: Keith Lamond Subject: non-moto: My band is playing at Zigs Thursday night! To: dccyles , Steve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey all, I know it is non-motorcycle content, but you guys are the largest community of people I know in the area and we need to get a lot of people out to the show. Here is your chance to support a fellow DC biker in their artistic endevours and have a good time. The band I'm in, ChaotiKa, is playing a show at Zigs on Thursday the 5th of December. We go on at 8PM and will play for about 2 hours. We've got a bunch of new originals, plus covers from the 70s-90s. The cover should be about $8. They have good eats and drinks too. Zigs is located at 4531 Duke Street in Alexandria VA, about 1 1/2 miles east of Landmark Mall. Directions and more information about the club can be found on there website: www.zigsbar.com Hope to see you there, Keith __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 14:13:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2JDvO7021702; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:13:57 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2JDvmk021695; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:13:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbELqnfZrv9wFzCHsLCdORmrBqW3vXYcQhQ6FD18PLP1ZgU7Xh2v4Hsm7cbR8oVc0U= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: Renthal streetbike bars in the USA? Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:13:53 -0500 Message-ID: <010d01c29a36$f5115320$0d0312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I hope everyone had a good T-day vacation. I would like to replace my OEM bars with Renthal Road bars, bar ends, and a cross brace. Anyone know a USA distributor of said items? As best as I've been able to find out, Renthal only sells these goodies to our friends across the Atlantic. We get a full catalog of MX/Off road/ATV bars, of course, but not the streetbike stuff. --jon 2001 Suzuki Bandit From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 14:34:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2JYGO7022197; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:34:16 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2JYGSm022187; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:34:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00f301c29a3a$041bb2e0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Subject: Non-moto Biking and male infertility Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:34:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 While mostly non-moto, YMMV depending on the configuration of your seat. ------------- Mountain Biking Linked to Infertility By Lindsey Tanner AP Medical Writer Monday, December 2, 2002; 12:45 PM CHICAGO -- Frequent mountain-biking may reduce fertility in men, according to a small Austrian study that adds fodder to a debate over cycling and male sexual function. The research suggests frequent jolts and vibration caused by biking over rough terrain may cause abnormalities, including small scars within the scrotum and impaired sperm production. The abnormalities were found in professional mountain bikers and other "extreme" bikers who logged at least 3,000 miles yearly - or an average of more than two hours a day, six days a week. Dr. Ferdinand Frauscher, a urology-radiology specialist at University Hospital in Innsbruck, Austria, said he studied about 55 avid mountain bikers and found nearly 90 percent had low sperm counts and scrotal abnormalities. Only 26 percent of the 35 non-bikers he studied had similar damage, according to research presented at this week's annual meeting of the Radiological Society of North America. Whether the abnormalities were severe enough to make fathering a child difficult is uncertain, though some of the bikers studied had already experienced difficulty conceiving, Frauscher said. Participants were aged 17 to 44. His study looked at fertility rather than impotence, which was linked to recreational cycling in research heavily publicized in 1997. The earlier findings, by Boston University impotence specialist Dr. Irwin Goldstein, were construed by many cycling aficionados to suggest that men should avoid any cycling sports. Some doctors thought Goldstein's findings were overstated, but the issue has prompted a mini-industry of bicycle seats designed to avoid the compression of penile arteries that Goldstein said occurs during cycling. Such problems may occur on narrow, racing-type seats, Frauscher said. Some newer, wider designs feature holes or gaps to avoid pressure, but these likely would have no effect on the scrotal damage found in the Austrian study, which may be caused by jolting over rough terrain rather than artery compression, Frauscher said. Frauscher said men shouldn't avoid mountain biking because of the study, but should perhaps consider investing in bikes with shock absorbers or suspension systems designed to reduce the jolting. Stanford University urologist Dr. Robert Kessler said he was skeptical of Frauscher's findings. Scrotal varicose veins, which were among the abnormalities Frauscher linked to mountain biking, are usually congenital and not linked to trauma, Kessler said. "It doesn't make sense," Kessler said. Dr. Eduardo Randrup, a urologist at Ochsner Clinic in New Orleans, said the link is plausible but not necessarily cause for alarm. The damage Frauscher found "may well be reversible" and likely would not occur from recreational cycling, Randrup said. Dr. Sangili Chandran, a sports medicine specialist at Christ Hospital and Medical Center in the Chicago suburb of Oak Lawn, said other studies have found similar results but, like Frauscher's, have been too small to be conclusive. "The theory is there, the proof I'm still looking for," Chandran said. Even if the results are corroborated in future studies, very few mountain biking enthusiasts are logging enough miles to worry about any fertility impairment, Chandran said. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 14:36:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2JatO7022527; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:36:55 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2JatZl022520; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:36:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 14:36:44 -0500 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Anyone wanna buy a Harley? MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2278249C.13A32856.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Friend of mine is looking to sell his bike and has had no luck on e-bay so far. Here's the link to what he listed earlier. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1872097240 He'll be putting it back up later but, would like to sell it sooner. I'm not sure what his reserve was but, if anyone's interested, I can put you in touch with him. The bike has been taken really good care of and has been kept in a garage whenever not in use. Scooter From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 16:36:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2LalO7023519; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:36:47 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2LakL1023509; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:36:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DEBD127.10BDF32@carlparker.com> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 16:31:20 -0500 From: Carl Parker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DCCycles Subject: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -Just rode over to Gallows to register my new bike. LINES AND LINES! -Rode over to Centerville...50 people outside and moved 6 feet in one hour! -Looked inside the DMV....had 5 tellers working and they certainly weren't breaking a sweat to speed things up. I think this is a plan to get all of the honest hard working people to move somewhere else. Any suggestions? I'm thinking Leesburg... Carl Parker P.S. I'm moving to Canada! ;) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 16:43:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2LhiO7023889; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:43:44 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2LhhN8023880; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:43:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <001301c29a4a$9e7bb500$6500a8c0@MASA.masainc.com> From: "Shigeru Honda" To: "DCCycles" References: <3DEBD127.10BDF32@carlparker.com> Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:34:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 I once saw a guy yelling at a DMV worker for her incompetence, then the bitch yelled "SECURITY !!!!!!!!!!" Security dude with a big gun escorted the guy outside... DMV workers are wasting tax payer's money! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Parker" To: "DCCycles" Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:31 PM Subject: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! > -Just rode over to Gallows to register my new bike. LINES AND LINES! > -Rode over to Centerville...50 people outside and moved 6 feet in one > hour! > -Looked inside the DMV....had 5 tellers working and they certainly > weren't breaking a sweat to speed things up. I think this is a plan > to get all of the honest hard working people to move somewhere else. > > Any suggestions? I'm thinking Leesburg... > > Carl Parker > > P.S. > I'm moving to Canada! ;) > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 16:46:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2LkiO7024220; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:46:44 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2Lki8c024210; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:46:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021202214642.39333.qmail@web13907.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 13:46:42 -0800 (PST) From: Keith Lamond Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! To: DCCycles In-Reply-To: <3DEBD127.10BDF32@carlparker.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Leesburg is quickly becoming as bad as northern VA. Move out to Warrenton or even by god West Virginia. You'll be closer to all those fun roads to ride on. Keith --- Carl Parker wrote: > -Just rode over to Gallows to register my new bike. > LINES AND LINES! > -Rode over to Centerville...50 people outside and > moved 6 feet in one > hour! > -Looked inside the DMV....had 5 tellers working and > they certainly > weren't breaking a sweat to speed things up. I > think this is a plan > to get all of the honest hard working people to move > somewhere else. > > Any suggestions? I'm thinking Leesburg... > > Carl Parker > > P.S. > I'm moving to Canada! ;) > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 16:47:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2LlUO7024253; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:47:30 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2LlUS1024249; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:47:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <009801c29a4c$a2a66100$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" References: <3DEBD127.10BDF32@carlparker.com> <001301c29a4a$9e7bb500$6500a8c0@MASA.masainc.com> Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:49:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Actual sign at the DC DMV, "patrons using profanity will be served another day." :) Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shigeru Honda" > > I once saw a guy yelling at a DMV worker for her incompetence, then the > bitch yelled "SECURITY !!!!!!!!!!" > Security dude with a big gun escorted the guy outside... > DMV workers are wasting tax payer's money! > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 16:56:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2LuvO7024929; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:56:57 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2LuuLS024919; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:56:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <8DEE4C18B7FDB04D9D09458266EA1B6B09DD03@www.email.gmabrands.com> From: "Scott, Wellesley E." To: DCCycles Subject: RE: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:52:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" When I purchased my motorcycle in Warrenton I was able to buy the bike, insure and title it in less than 30 minutes. My waits in Alexandria were easily 2-3x that. -----Original Message----- From: Carl Parker [mailto:carl@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:31 PM To: DCCycles Subject: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! -Just rode over to Gallows to register my new bike. LINES AND LINES! -Rode over to Centerville...50 people outside and moved 6 feet in one hour! -Looked inside the DMV....had 5 tellers working and they certainly weren't breaking a sweat to speed things up. I think this is a plan to get all of the honest hard working people to move somewhere else. Any suggestions? I'm thinking Leesburg... Carl Parker P.S. I'm moving to Canada! ;) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 16:57:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2LvOO7024964; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:57:24 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2LvOi1024960; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:57:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20021202165704.02067280@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 16:57:20 -0500 To: DCCycles From: Troutman Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! In-Reply-To: <20021202214642.39333.qmail@web13907.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3DEBD127.10BDF32@carlparker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Leesburg _is_ northern Virginia.... At 04:46 PM 12/2/2002, Keith Lamond wrote: >Leesburg is quickly becoming as bad as northern VA. >Move out to Warrenton or even by god West Virginia. >You'll be closer to all those fun roads to ride on. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 16:58:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2LwgO7025004; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:58:42 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2Lwgla025000; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:58:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:01:25 -0500 (EST) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Carl Parker cc: DCCycles Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! In-Reply-To: <3DEBD127.10BDF32@carlparker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >I'm thinking Leesburg... They've always been quick and friendly the three times I've gone in and actually cut me slack a couple of times. Dunno about the others but at least you get to sit down to wait if you have to. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 16:59:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2Lx3O7025043; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:59:03 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2Lx3lt025039; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:59:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <8DEE4C18B7FDB04D9D09458266EA1B6B09DD04@www.email.gmabrands.com> From: "Scott, Wellesley E." To: "'Troutman'" , DCCycles Subject: RE: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 16:55:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Leesburg may be in Norhtern Virginia, but it sure is _COUNTRY_. -----Original Message----- From: Troutman [mailto:mike@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:57 PM To: DCCycles Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! Leesburg _is_ northern Virginia.... At 04:46 PM 12/2/2002, Keith Lamond wrote: >Leesburg is quickly becoming as bad as northern VA. >Move out to Warrenton or even by god West Virginia. >You'll be closer to all those fun roads to ride on. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 17:10:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2MAwO7026320; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:10:58 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2MAvvO026314; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:10:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <008b01c29a4f$a0d36e60$4f5af7a5@de3bw> Reply-To: "cplvfr" From: "cplvfr" To: References: <3DEBD127.10BDF32@carlparker.com> Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:10:29 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I just got back from titling and registering my VF500 so I have a beater bike for the winter. I planned on going to the Winchester to do so, but I cruised by the Leesburg location just in case the lines were short. From Rt 15 I could see the line just coming out the front door. So I went all the way to Winchester. There were about 20 people in front of me at the info line. I waited longer in the info line than I did for a teller. It seemed like there were the same number of employees in Winchester as in Leesburg, but there were half as many customers. By the time I left there were only a few people in the info line. I was able to get out of there in a little over an hour. I much prefer riding to waiting so it was no big deal spending an extra 1.5 hours on the road. . Travis '01 SV650S '95 RC36 '91 GS500E '85 VF500F > -Just rode over to Gallows to register my new bike. LINES AND LINES! > -Rode over to Centerville...50 people outside and moved 6 feet in one > hour! > -Looked inside the DMV....had 5 tellers working and they certainly > weren't breaking a sweat to speed things up. I think this is a plan > to get all of the honest hard working people to move somewhere else. > > Any suggestions? I'm thinking Leesburg... > > Carl Parker > > P.S. > I'm moving to Canada! ;) > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 17:13:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2MDcO7026659; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:13:38 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2MDc7S026653; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:13:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <008c01c29a50$e85f0e00$4150bc3f@k1100rs> From: "Jeff Hughes" To: "DCCycles" References: <8DEE4C18B7FDB04D9D09458266EA1B6B09DD03@www.email.gmabrands.com> Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:19:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Unfortunately, the Warrenton DMV was one of those that was closed... Jeff > When I purchased my motorcycle in Warrenton I was able to buy the bike, > insure and title it in less than 30 minutes. My waits in Alexandria were > easily 2-3x that. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Parker [mailto:carl@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:31 PM > To: DCCycles > Subject: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! > > > -Just rode over to Gallows to register my new bike. LINES AND LINES! > -Rode over to Centerville...50 people outside and moved 6 feet in one > hour! > -Looked inside the DMV....had 5 tellers working and they certainly > weren't breaking a sweat to speed things up. I think this is a plan > to get all of the honest hard working people to move somewhere else. > > Any suggestions? I'm thinking Leesburg... > > Carl Parker > > P.S. > I'm moving to Canada! ;) > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 17:19:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2MJvO7027012; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:19:57 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2MJvnN027002; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:19:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021202221954.68553.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:19:54 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! To: dan , Carl Parker Cc: DCCycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Forget Leesburg. It's now as bad as all the others since the closures. Went in there a couple of weeks ago (mid-month) and walked right back out again. It was SWARMING with people and they weren't calling numbers very quickly. The desk to just get a number had a line about fifty feet long. I'll register my new motorcycle in the spring when I pull it out of the basement, thank you very much. Chris Weaver --- dan wrote: > >I'm thinking Leesburg... > > They've always been quick and friendly the three > times I've gone in and > actually cut me slack a couple of times. Dunno > about the others but at > least you get to sit down to wait if you have to. > > Dan > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 17:26:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2MQcO7027382; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:26:38 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2MQcxD027374; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:26:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DEBDCD7.C2B1419E@carlparker.com> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 17:21:11 -0500 From: Carl Parker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Weaver CC: dan , DCCycles Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! References: <20021202221954.68553.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Front Royal it is! Now if I can find time between my last semester from 8 years of undergrad, work, and above freezing temps...I'd be happy to wheel myself out there. I'd really rather not drive. ;) Thanks Ya'll, Carl Chris Weaver wrote: > Forget Leesburg. It's now as bad as all the others > since the closures. Went in there a couple of weeks > ago (mid-month) and walked right back out again. It > was SWARMING with people and they weren't calling > numbers very quickly. The desk to just get a number > had a line about fifty feet long. > > I'll register my new motorcycle in the spring when I > pull it out of the basement, thank you very much. > > Chris Weaver > > --- dan wrote: > > >I'm thinking Leesburg... > > > > They've always been quick and friendly the three > > times I've gone in and > > actually cut me slack a couple of times. Dunno > > about the others but at > > least you get to sit down to wait if you have to. > > > > Dan > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 17:26:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2MQgO7027410; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:26:42 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2MQfM4027406; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:26:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DEBDCDB.14811A0F@carlparker.com> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 17:21:15 -0500 From: Carl Parker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Weaver CC: dan , DCCycles Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! References: <20021202221954.68553.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Front Royal it is! Now if I can find time between my last semester from 8 years of undergrad, work, and above freezing temps...I'd be happy to wheel myself out there. I'd really rather not drive. ;) Thanks Ya'll, Carl Chris Weaver wrote: > Forget Leesburg. It's now as bad as all the others > since the closures. Went in there a couple of weeks > ago (mid-month) and walked right back out again. It > was SWARMING with people and they weren't calling > numbers very quickly. The desk to just get a number > had a line about fifty feet long. > > I'll register my new motorcycle in the spring when I > pull it out of the basement, thank you very much. > > Chris Weaver > > --- dan wrote: > > >I'm thinking Leesburg... > > > > They've always been quick and friendly the three > > times I've gone in and > > actually cut me slack a couple of times. Dunno > > about the others but at > > least you get to sit down to wait if you have to. > > > > Dan > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 17:47:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2Ml7O7028167; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:47:07 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2Ml6s9028157; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:47:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <016601c29a54$f6199fc0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "DCCycles" References: <20021202221954.68553.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:48:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 For all the bellyaching you hear about DC DMV, I've never had a severe wait. Am I lucky, or strategic in my thinking? I allow sufficient time before expiration dates so I can simply come back if the wait is too long. Both recent bike registrations have been relatively painless, with only 15-20 minute waits for face time with the clerks during evening hours. You are assigned a number and a clipboard from completing your paperwork. When I registered the VFR I didn't have enough time to fill out the forms before my number was called. DC now staggers registration expiration dates throughout the month, another feature of the infamous all-in-one stickers, so the end of the month crunch is no longer a big issue. DMVs cover all their costs, with lots left over to fill government coffers, from the revenues they generate. There is really no excuse for lousy service, other than the fact they have you over a barrel. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Weaver" > Forget Leesburg. It's now as bad as all the others > since the closures. > > I'll register my new motorcycle in the spring when I > pull it out of the basement, thank you very much. > > Chris Weaver > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 18:48:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB2NmLO7028881; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:48:21 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB2NmLkp028871; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:48:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <002801c29a65$2eaf9af0$51f39bac@ticostat.com> From: "Patti Rodgers" To: "Paul Wilson" , "DCCycles" References: <20021202221954.68553.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> <016601c29a54$f6199fc0$bb82fea9@palladio1> Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:33:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Apparently-From: Rodgersmp@XXXXXX >>For all the bellyaching you hear about DC DMV, I've never had a severe wait. Am I lucky, or strategic in my thinking? I'll be the first one to regale the list with DC DMV horror stories but I also have to give praise when warranted. Last time I had to go to DC DMV, which was about two weeks ago I went to the Georgetown Park location. Since I was correcting a problem (dealer messed up a new vehicle registration for me) I figured I'd be there all day, but I was actually in and out in about 15 minutes. Pretty impressive. FYI the Georgetown Park location does not do all transactions; check the web site at dmv.dc.gov for a list of what you can take care of there. Sure beats C Street, and the parking garage does not jack you too bad; definitely better than trying to park at C Street. Be advised, though, the Georgetown Park branch does not take cash payments, only credit cards and checks. Cheers, Patti From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 19:23:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB30NqO7031494; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:23:52 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB30NqK1031489; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:23:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Subject: Re: Really Warm Gloves/Mittens content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 12:04:00 -0600 Message-ID: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A64196230AB48479@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Really Warm Gloves/Mittens Thread-Index: AcKaLd9N0KPHAeJMTOG8/nyylj1xZg== From: To: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id gB30NpO7031477 Electric ones from Gerbing.. >>> Isaac Blanck 12/01/02 08:30PM >>> This past Thur I rode up to Lancaster County, PA, and it was freakin' cooooooooold! It hit my fingers the worst, and I had winter moto gloves on. But they weren't warm enough. Anyone have recommendations for superwarm gloves? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 19:44:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB30iNO7031916; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:44:23 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB30iMkY031906; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:44:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:44:20 -0600 (CST) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Mobil Speedpass Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone have experience using this? Seems like a convenient way to get petrol without needing to haul the wallet out of inconvenient pockets... Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 19:58:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB30woO7032315; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:58:50 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB30wnjw032305; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:58:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DEC0171.5070307@erols.com> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 19:57:21 -0500 From: Steve Price User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Been using one for a long time now. Have one on my key ring. Makes it alot easier and faster to gas up.Steve Fish Flowers wrote: >Anyone have experience using this? Seems like a convenient way to get >petrol without needing to haul the wallet out of inconvenient pockets... > >Fish. > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 20:12:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB31CeO7032700; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:12:40 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB31CeR2032692; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:12:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [209.70.39.112] From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 20:11:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2002 01:11:33.0648 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB673100:01C29A68] Yes. As long as you like Exxon or Mobil gasoline... >From: Fish Flowers >To: DC-Cycles >Subject: Mobil Speedpass >Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 18:44:20 -0600 (CST) > >Anyone have experience using this? Seems like a convenient way to get >petrol without needing to haul the wallet out of inconvenient pockets... > >Fish. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 20:14:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB31EoO7000571; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:14:50 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB31EoZV000560; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:14:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021203011442.83544.qmail@web40808.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 17:14:42 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Withrow Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass To: Fish Flowers , DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Fish Flowers wrote: > Anyone have experience using this? Seems like a > convenient way to get > petrol without needing to haul the wallet out of > inconvenient pockets... > > Fish. > I had one in my jacket. It had a small pocket near the left cuff. It was great for filling up while on the bike. Just wave my arm at the pump and go. ===== AIM: Inf DS http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow ----------------------------------------------------------- Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 20:21:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB31LmO7000919; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:21:48 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB31LlkM000909; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 20:21:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:21:45 -0600 (CST) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Perry Coleman wrote: > Yes. As long as you like Exxon or Mobil gasoline... *shrug* I use what's convenient. Until I moved to Bowie that was always Shell gasoline, so we've been doing the Shell credit card thing. We appear to have moved into Mobil-land now, though, so... Fish. plus they have that bizarre upromise thing, research research From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 21:09:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3296O7001475; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:09:06 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB32958B001464; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:09:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DEC1382.F1B21844@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 21:14:26 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fish Flowers CC: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fish Flowers wrote: > Anyone have experience using this? Seems like a convenient way to get > petrol without needing to haul the wallet out of inconvenient pockets... > > Fish. I use green paper with pictures of dead presidents. No wallet, keep the dead guy pics in a wad in a convenient pocket. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 21:23:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB32N0O7001873; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:23:00 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB32Mxb3001865; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:22:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00e901c29a72$d703e0a0$0e2d2c42@D7XFG711> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "William J. Huson" , "Fish Flowers" Cc: "DC-Cycles" References: <3DEC1382.F1B21844@patriot.net> Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:22:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I use the Speedpass. Great stuff. You can use it inside to buy snacks and whatnot too. Of course Milady gets to track my movements that way. I've wondered why they call them "dead Presidents." Two out seven of the Federal Reserve notes in circulation do not depict Presidents, including the highest denomination. Paul in DC 95 VFR - 86 VF500F ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J. Huson" > Fish Flowers wrote: > > > Anyone have experience using this? Seems like a convenient way to get > > petrol without needing to haul the wallet out of inconvenient pockets... > > > > Fish. > > I use green paper with pictures of dead presidents. No wallet, keep the > dead guy pics in a wad in a convenient pocket. > > Bill > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 21:55:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB32tVO7002369; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:55:31 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB32tTQH002359; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:55:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 22:05:13 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Perry Coleman wrote: > Yes. As long as you like Exxon or Mobil gasoline... It all burns the same :-) Pick the most convenient fueling station, then the appropriate octane rating. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 22:00:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB330KO7002416; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 22:00:20 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB330JDG002408; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 22:00:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DEC1F88.A6A5BC0C@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 22:05:44 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Wilson CC: Fish Flowers , DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass References: <3DEC1382.F1B21844@patriot.net> <00e901c29a72$d703e0a0$0e2d2c42@D7XFG711> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Wilson wrote: > I use the Speedpass. Great stuff. You can use it inside to buy snacks and > whatnot too. Of course Milady gets to track my movements that > way. And the tracking is a good thang? > I've wondered why they call them "dead Presidents." Two out seven of the > Federal Reserve notes in circulation do not depict Presidents, including the > highest denomination. Well, I'll bet they were all presidents of something. My sillyness has caused me to be awarded many unofficial titles, and I've served as presidents for a number of actual organizations, including a corporation. But I ain't dead (yet - see fear of "tracking" noted above), so I don't qualify. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Dec 2 23:49:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB34nVO7003597; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 23:49:31 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB34nVA6003587; Mon, 2 Dec 2002 23:49:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 23:45:20 -0500 From: Cliff Zigmond Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <007a01c29a86$c9270cf0$6501a8c0@cliffzig> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <3DEC1382.F1B21844@XXXXXX> > I use green paper with pictures of dead presidents. No wallet, keep the > dead guy pics in a wad in a convenient pocket. > > Bill > So you actually get off the bike?! I never have to dismount anymore. I love Speedpass! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 06:16:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3BGaO7006035; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 06:16:36 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3BGZku006025; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 06:16:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 06:16:30 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02120306163079.09051@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 02 December 2002 22:05, Wayne Edelen wrote: > On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Perry Coleman wrote: > > Yes. As long as you like Exxon or Mobil gasoline... > > It all burns the same :-) Pick the most convenient fueling station, then > the appropriate octane rating. > It may all burn the same but I can tell if I'm riding behind someone who got gas at an Exxon. It's almost as if I'm exposed to tear gas again. It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does, it's an Exxon tank. > -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 07:00:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3C0SO7006531; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:00:28 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3C0Sxx006523; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:00:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DEC9E1C.99B7E073@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 07:05:48 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cliff Zigmond CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass References: <3DEC1382.F1B21844@XXXXXX> <007a01c29a86$c9270cf0$6501a8c0@cliffzig> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cliff Zigmond wrote: > So you actually get off the bike?! I never have to dismount anymore. I > love Speedpass! Pouring fuel while sitting on a hot bike? No thanks. In 3 decades I've seen two riders try for crispy-critter awards doing that. Rare, but not worth the poser points. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 07:33:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3CX9O7007000; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:33:09 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3CX83J006990; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:33:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021203123306.56659.qmail@web11506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 04:33:06 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <02120306163079.09051@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I thought for sure you were going to say that you have seen bits of Alaskan feathers coming from the exhaust! Glenn --- Carl Schelin wrote: > It may all burn the same but I can tell if I'm > riding behind someone who got > gas at an Exxon. It's almost as if I'm exposed to > tear gas again. It doesn't > happen all the time, but when it does, it's an Exxon > tank. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 07:54:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3CsZO7007413; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:54:35 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3CsZs9007403; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:54:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 07:54:28 -0500 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: fish@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <73BE1408.63152152.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Been using one for about a year now. I've got one on the bike keys and one for the cage. Works great when you can find a Mobil or Exxon that accepts it. During my trip out west in July, both were few and far between and most didn't take the SpeedPass. Hell, a couple were even the old analog/dial pumps where you had to go inside to pay. =8-0 Pretty much all the ones around this area take it making it extremely convenient to get gas without taking off gloves, etc. You can apply online at www.speedpass.com and use any card you want. Scooter In a message dated 12/2/2002 7:44:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, fish@XXXXXX writes: > > > Anyone have experience using this? Seems like a convenient way to get > petrol without needing to haul the wallet out of > inconvenient pockets... > > Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 07:58:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3CwhO7007745; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:58:43 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3CwhRs007738; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:58:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DECABC4.4A988A55@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 08:04:04 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carl Schelin CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass References: <02120306163079.09051@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carl Schelin wrote: > On Monday 02 December 2002 22:05, Wayne Edelen wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Perry Coleman wrote: > > > Yes. As long as you like Exxon or Mobil gasoline... > > > > It all burns the same :-) Pick the most convenient fueling station, then > > the appropriate octane rating. > > > > It may all burn the same but I can tell if I'm riding behind someone who got > gas at an Exxon. It's almost as if I'm exposed to tear gas again. It doesn't > happen all the time, but when it does, it's an Exxon tank. Wayne could have a valid point. Back in the `60s I noticed that Shell and Texaco would leave a tan residue on the inside of my Mopar's dual exhaust pipes, but Esso(Exxon) and American (Amoco) would burn the pipes clean white. This caused a bit of a Daddy fright one time. A time change caught me scrambling back to college, and I had to pick up a babe south of Richmond. Babe's Daddy, concerned because I didn't show on time, called my house and my Mother said I'd left "about an hour ago" - more like an hour and a half, and I was honking down the highway. Daddy walks outside and there's my iridescent blue Mopar backing in to a space, duals rumbling, and pipes stone white. Had to do some fast talking before he let his Princess in my car :-) Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 08:18:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3DImO7008164; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:18:48 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3DImhf008158; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:18:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:18:46 -0600 (CST) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: High Idle Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What's the proper way to adjust for a very high idle? Mine has been quite high for the last couple of rides -- I'm probably violating all kinds of noise codes. Plus... if I'm in gear and let the clutch out, the bike jerks forward much more rapidly than I'm used to. Dropped the bike from a stop last night -- missed the shift into neutral without realizing it, let the clutch out, rear wheel zips sideways and over it goes. Feh. (Normally I'd catch it in time, but with such a jumpy clutch and idle... double feh.) Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 08:27:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3DROO7008533; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:27:24 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3DRNwE008524; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:27:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "LindaT." To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: Mobil Speedpass Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:27:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <3DEC9E1C.99B7E073@patriot.net> Importance: Normal I do this all the time and I've never had a problem. Getting on and off a fully laden bike is just too much trouble when I'm traveling, so I only do it when I have to take a break. The only problem I've ever had was once I parked too far from the pump and had to lean the bike over to reach the handles. I leaned over past the point of no return and couldn't straighten the bike up as I was trapped between the bike and the pump. I asked a startled lady commuter to help me and all as well. LindaT. Custom TankBags Now - TankBags for 1800 Wings Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) AMA IBA HSTA BMWBMW 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.customtankbags.com -----Original Message----- From: William J. Huson [mailto:bhuson@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 7:06 AM To: Cliff Zigmond Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass Cliff Zigmond wrote: > So you actually get off the bike?! I never have to dismount anymore. I > love Speedpass! Pouring fuel while sitting on a hot bike? No thanks. In 3 decades I've seen two riders try for crispy-critter awards doing that. Rare, but not worth the poser points. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 08:29:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3DTfO7008869; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:29:41 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3DTedI008861; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:29:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:29:26 EST Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 12/2/2002 5:47:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, pawilson@XXXXXX writes: > There is really no excuse for lousy > service, other than the fact they have you over a barrel. Gotta agree with you on that one. Just be glad you are not going from VA to MD ( I expect the reverse would be worse right now ) it took me over 2 _days_ to get all the bullshit done and even then I had to hover on the edge of going postal to get it done. They want, no demand, a _birth certificate_ just to go from a drivers license in VA to one in MD! OH and not just the one I have used for *^(# years, OH NO..... The one that got me into school, my first work permit (juvenile), drivers license, marriage certificate and everything else. Not good enough. DMV must stop terrorism. (If I am a terrorist and I have a valid VA license issued not 20 miles away why in heavens name would I bother to switch to MD?) Just another overreaction to 9/11. Just be glad. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 08:35:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3DZeO7009229; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:35:40 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3DZdM7009219; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:35:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <169.17f123bb.2b1e0d12@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:35:14 EST Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 12/2/2002 8:17:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, mtwithrow@XXXXXX writes: > I had one in my jacket. It had a small pocket near the > left cuff. It was great for filling up while on the > bike. Just wave my arm at the pump and go. > If the pump can read it remotely what is to stop a thief from reading/copying it as they walk past you? I mean once they have it they would not need a password or anything else. would they? Paranoid minds want to know. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 08:39:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3DdLO7009556; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:39:21 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3DdLJO009550; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:39:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <200212031339.IAA11510@boo-mda02.boo.net> To: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX From: lisagoddard@XXXXXX Subject: tips to avoid deer Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 13:39:20 GMT X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.0.20 From: "Mobacc \(now @ATT\)" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Deer doings HERE are some tips )B• If one deer crosses the highway, a second and third may be right behind. yes, they are like nuns, they don't travel alone. )B• Eat the deer. AMEN, we are particularily enjoying the one we got off of River Road a few weeks ago. Lisa --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 08:41:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3DfXO7009603; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:41:33 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3DfX3H009593; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:41:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <122.1b4e1a6b.2b1e0e87@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:41:27 EST Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 12/3/2002 6:16:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, cschelin@XXXXXX writes: > It's almost as if I'm exposed to tear gas again. It doesn't > happen all the time, but when it does, it's an Exxon tank. Find some Aviation fuel or race gas and sniff it. THAT is what gas used to smell like out of the pump. We used to throw away gas that smelled like the shit that comes "fresh" out of the pump these days. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 08:52:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3DqLO7010264; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:52:21 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3DqK5j010254; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:52:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: A couple of sites Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:51:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" http://sepnet.com/cycle/racing.htm http://www.pashnit.com/motoroads.htm The above sites might be worth taking a look at the Pashnit.com is a nice site detailing quite a few rides around California and a few other places. I'm going to have to get back out there. The sepnet is a link list. L8tr From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 09:17:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3EH1O7010686; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:17:01 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3EH1LA010678; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:17:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Subject: Re: tips to avoid deer Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:17:00 -0600 Message-ID: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A64196230AB486DB@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: tips to avoid deer Thread-Index: AcKa1pl+gKpLeU7MTwKPYNnaLsHL2w== From: To: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id gB3EH0O7010664 Ewww. Eating a corpse from the side of the road....Barbarians you are... George >>> lisagoddard@XXXXXX 12/03/02 08:39AM >>> Eat the deer. AMEN, we are particularily enjoying the one we got off of River Road a few weeks ago. Lisa From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 09:47:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3ElJO7011156; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:47:19 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3ElIii011146; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:47:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021203144716.50004.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 06:47:16 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: High Idle To: Fish Flowers , DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On the bikes that I've owned, there's always been a small knob that you turn to change the idle speed. Check your owner's manual and see if there is one. Usually the correct idle speed is somewhere between 1000-1500 rpm. Again, look at that manual. Also, you might find that your throttle cables are too tight. Right where the cables come away from the bar, there should be a pair of nuts that you can back out and snug against each other. Fiddle with this until you have a few millimeters of play between fully-closed and tension on the cables. Yet again, RTFM*. If this is all normal, I'd say you have a carb issue (assuming your bike is carbed) and for that you'll want to talk to others on the list. Chris Weaver *Old acronym: "Read The F-ing Manual." --- Fish Flowers wrote: > What's the proper way to adjust for a very high > idle? > > Mine has been quite high for the last couple of > rides -- I'm probably > violating all kinds of noise codes. Plus... if I'm > in gear and let the > clutch out, the bike jerks forward much more rapidly > than I'm used to. > Dropped the bike from a stop last night -- missed > the shift into neutral > without realizing it, let the clutch out, rear wheel > zips sideways and > over it goes. Feh. (Normally I'd catch it in time, > but with such a jumpy > clutch and idle... double feh.) > > Fish. > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 09:58:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3EwjO7011625; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:58:45 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3EwjeE011617; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:58:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <200212031458.PZA55059@vmms2.verisignmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:58:47 -0500 From: Dave Yates Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 2.9.3.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Gotta agree with you on that one. >Just be glad you are not going from VA to MD ...it took me over 2 _days_ to get all the bullshit done and >even then I had to hover on the edge of going postal to get it done. [Dave] I could regale you with MD MVA horror stories; not just happening to me... The worst has to be a guy in front of me in line as a 'compulsory insurance violator'. MVA witheld his registration and license renewal. The fine was $7800.00, the car was a Dodge Dart... . MD MVA's have a history of infamy. That's why you see police in the MVA, not just rent a cops - several instances of angry customers retaliating... Whatever you do, don't EVER fill out info on a title in MD. Take it to MVA and compel them to instruct you on what to fill out. If so much as one field is incorrect, you get to either wait 6-8 weeks for new title or go to Glen Burnie MVA to wait 3 - 4 hours for new title... I've seen lots of customers suffer this fate in my MVA dealings... Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 10:32:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3FWYO7012156; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:32:34 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3FWX9V012148; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:32:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DECB2ED.52261A28@tasam.com> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 08:34:38 -0500 From: Skip Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: DCCycles Subject: Re: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! References: <8DEE4C18B7FDB04D9D09458266EA1B6B09DD03@www.email.gmabrands.com> <008c01c29a50$e85f0e00$4150bc3f@k1100rs> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I went to the winchester DMV and was in and out in about 20 minutes. Jeff Hughes wrote: > > Unfortunately, the Warrenton DMV was one of those that was closed... > > Jeff > > > When I purchased my motorcycle in Warrenton I was able to buy the bike, > > insure and title it in less than 30 minutes. My waits in Alexandria were > > easily 2-3x that. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Carl Parker [mailto:carl@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 4:31 PM > > To: DCCycles > > Subject: VA-DMV GAAAAHHH!!! > > > > > > -Just rode over to Gallows to register my new bike. LINES AND LINES! > > -Rode over to Centerville...50 people outside and moved 6 feet in one > > hour! > > -Looked inside the DMV....had 5 tellers working and they certainly > > weren't breaking a sweat to speed things up. I think this is a plan > > to get all of the honest hard working people to move somewhere else. > > > > Any suggestions? I'm thinking Leesburg... > > > > Carl Parker > > > > P.S. > > I'm moving to Canada! ;) > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 10:37:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3FboO7012525; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:37:50 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3FbnBS012518; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:37:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [158.59.27.31] From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:36:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2002 15:36:43.0392 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8058800:01C29AE1] Anybody believe in the theory that you should use one brand of gas and if possible from the same station? >From: Wayne Edelen >It all burns the same :-) Pick the most convenient fueling station, _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 10:49:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3FnXO7012729; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:49:33 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3FnVC6012713; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:49:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F9F6A59@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: bernescut@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: tips to avoid deer Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:49:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hysterical rant on deer. It goes on a bit too much about Cuba and enviromentalists, but an amusing tale nonetheless. http://www.lewrockwell.com/fontova/fontova26.html Cedric 2000 CBR600F4 Annandale, VA "If your named Will and you are in the army do you get worried when people say fire at will?" * Eat the deer. AMEN, we are particularily enjoying the one we got off of River Road a few weeks ago. Lisa From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 10:53:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3FrWO7013363; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:53:32 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3FrV4E013356; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:53:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:56:22 -0500 (EST) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Anybody believe in the theory that you should use one brand of gas and if > possible from the same station? > Yep, I try to stick with Exxon, but Texaco, Amoco and Chevron will do. I try to avoid the cheapo places. Back in the 80's I think BMW did their own tests on gasoline and most of the less know places did rather poorly. I believe CR had an article as well. I'm sure things have improved since but I'd rather pay $.01 a gallon for the good stuff. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 11:00:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3G0DO7013735; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:00:13 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3G0DBM013727; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:00:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:00:10 -0500 Message-Id: <200212031100.AA103023214@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass X-Mailer: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Cliff Zigmond > >So you actually get off the bike?! I never have to dismount anymore. I >love Speedpass! I'd be afraid of gassing my crotch. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 11:13:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3GD5O7014146; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:13:05 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3GD57Y014140; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:13:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021203161258.30016.qmail@web40712.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:12:58 -0800 (PST) From: Tight Squeeze Racing Subject: Suz Bandit 1200 Aftermarket Exhaust To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've got a friend with a Bandit 1200 asking me about an aftermarket exhaust. Any recommendations on a canister that works well with this bike? Thanks, Steve "Dulles Toll Road Crusader" Clark '01 Suz DRZ400s __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 11:20:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3GKwO7014513; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:20:58 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3GKwNR014506; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:20:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00e301c29ae8$2f3cd040$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Chris Weaver" , "Fish Flowers" , "DC-Cycles" References: <20021203144716.50004.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: High Idle Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:17:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Here's another thing to check along with the idle settings. Your choke cable might be sticking, especially in cold weather. A cable lubing is a good thing to perform as part of a winterization plan. The choke operation on my Nighthawk got a little funky and lubing the cable cleared up the problem. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Weaver" > On the bikes that I've owned, there's always been a > small knob that you turn to change the idle speed. > Check your owner's manual and see if there is one. > Usually the correct idle speed is somewhere between > 1000-1500 rpm. Again, look at that manual. > > Also, you might find that your throttle cables are too > tight. ... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 11:29:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3GTuO7014873; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:29:56 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3GTu32014863; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:29:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:29:50 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <200212031100.AA103023214@mail.toward.com> In-Reply-To: <200212031100.AA103023214@mail.toward.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0212031129507D.09051@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tuesday 03 December 2002 11:00, Chris Norloff wrote: > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Cliff Zigmond > > >So you actually get off the bike?! I never have to dismount anymore. I > >love Speedpass! > > I'd be afraid of gassing my crotch. > One time when I put the nozzle into the tank, it didn't go past the guard. I hit the handle and it sprayed gasoline all the way to the back of the bike and on me, standing next to it. I'm _much_ more careful now. > Chris Norloff Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 11:42:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3GgkO7015283; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:42:46 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3GgjBg015273; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:42:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021203164243.8340.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:42:43 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: DC Insurance To: DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Grrr...Progressive will not insure anyone in DC. Any bike insurer recommendations? THanks ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 11:51:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3GpwO7015651; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:51:58 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3GpvdL015641; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:51:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:51:53 -0600 (CST) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: DC Insurance In-Reply-To: <20021203164243.8340.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Mark Kitchell wrote: > Grrr...Progressive will not insure anyone in DC. Any bike insurer > recommendations? I recently switched my bike (and cage) insurance over to State Farm. Rates dropped drastically, and coverage increased. Hard to go wrong there. Of course, there was also the small matter of getting married, buying a house, and the long-awaited one-year anniversary of my insurance violation... which changed me from effectively uninsurable to eminently so. Still -- I've been very happy with our State Farm agent. Dunno if they insure bikes in DC, but I suspect they do. My only criticism is that while they offer (cheap!) roadside assistance on their cage policies, they don't offer it at all on bikes. Very sad. Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 11:55:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3GtbO7015994; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:55:37 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3GtbSJ015987; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:55:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021203165529.32966.qmail@web40804.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:55:29 -0800 (PST) From: Nicholas Thompson Subject: Re: DC Insurance To: Mark Kitchell , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20021203164243.8340.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You've got to be joking!!! Have you tried State Farm? I would stay away from Gieco. I had a Car stolen and went through all kinds of hell trying to get paid for damages once the car was recovered!! my $0.02 Nick --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > Grrr...Progressive will not insure anyone in DC. > Any > bike insurer recommendations? THanks > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 11:57:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3GveO7016037; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:57:40 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3GveV3016029; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:57:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:57:37 -0600 (CST) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Widder controller cable Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Biking is rapidly becoming one of those things I do because I'm stubborn and like to triumph over adversity, rather than something I do simply because it's fun. I futzed around with the bike this morning for a while (I seem to have resolved my high-idle issue by adjusting the throttle cable), then got on to ride to work... only to notice that one of the cables for my Widder vest controller appears to have frayed (and separated) near the plug. So... no heat. Suck. Is this something I can resolve by just stripping a bit more of the wire and somehow working it into the plug, or do I need a new controller entirely? I'm still playing the motorcycling-on-the-cheap game, so anything I can do myself is a plus. Them controllers is expensive. Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 12:21:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3HL2O7016822; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:21:02 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3HL1Ec016814; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:21:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVa7WzaTZESGjxbYc8kQtKXeCvKat2NeX+n4qu6nURb5cd+BxUwOC3FSJJwsRVGnvlU= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "'Tight Squeeze Racing'" , Subject: RE: Suz Bandit 1200 Aftermarket Exhaust Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:20:58 -0500 Message-ID: <002201c29af0$59193d10$0d0312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20021203161258.30016.qmail@web40712.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal I've got the complete Holeshot system (www.holeshot.com), with the regular size (not the short nor the longer touring version). I've got the "quiet" core. I'd imagine the "race" core is very loud. Mine is ok at very small throttle openings, it is *loud* at WFO. Advantages: Reasonable cost, high-temp coating (Hyper or some other 3rd party vendor), great performance, same vendor makes matched jet kits (stage I is needles and jets, stage II is pod filters, needles, and jets), great vendor support (call them up, the owner will talk to you). The "canister" includes a new elbow pipe (the stock one is v. restrictive). Disadvantages: High temp coating not as durable as chrome, loud. Many have been *very* happy with Akrapovic. Tell your friend to go to www.maximum-suzuki.com. There's a great Bandit board (also a DR board for yourself), with a good search engine. --jon 01 Suz00k Bandito Grande -----Original Message----- From: Tight Squeeze Racing [mailto:tightsqueezeracing@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:13 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Suz Bandit 1200 Aftermarket Exhaust I've got a friend with a Bandit 1200 asking me about an aftermarket exhaust. Any recommendations on a canister that works well with this bike? Thanks, Steve "Dulles Toll Road Crusader" Clark '01 Suz DRZ400s __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 12:25:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3HP4O7017161; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:25:04 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3HP4Ef017157; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:25:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Subject: Re: Suz Bandit 1200 Aftermarket Exhaust Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:29:00 -0600 Message-ID: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A64196230AB1858C@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Suz Bandit 1200 Aftermarket Exhaust Thread-Index: AcKa8OKJzCuUlQm6SO2ig60fL+c9JA== From: To: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id gB3HP2O7017145 I think Dale walker? and Holeshot are the Bandit pros. Look in the back of a recent Motorcyclist. George >>> Tight Squeeze Racing 12/03/02 11:12AM >>> I've got a friend with a Bandit 1200 asking me about an aftermarket exhaust. Any recommendations on a canister that works well with this bike? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 12:54:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3HsxO7017624; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:54:59 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3HswtB017614; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:54:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 12:52:57 -0500 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <0D2807B0.24714311.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It actually doesn't transmit very far. You have to be almost right on top of the Place SpeedPass Here spot for it to work. Plus, I think it also needs the receiver to actually activate it. A thief trying to steal your SpeedPass transponder info would have to get REAL close to you to do it.. Scooter (just my .02) In a message dated 12/3/2002 8:35:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, PenguinBiker writes: > > > In a message dated 12/2/2002 8:17:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, > mtwithrow@XXXXXX writes: > > > I had one in my jacket. It had a small pocket near the > > left cuff. It was great for filling up while on the > > bike. Just wave my arm at the pump and go. > > > > If the pump can read it remotely what is to stop a thief from reading/copying > it as they walk past you? I mean once they have it they > would not need a > password or anything else. would they? > Paranoid minds want to know. > > > John. > PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 14:15:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3JF0O7018377; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:15:00 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3JExs8018367; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:14:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaOeENDnTcbfrxnm8PAABsxkQSVKhjEe1bHVHGEj2BnmLCLXBLNTiY25MTk/fGdr18= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "'Dc-Cycles'" Subject: RE: Mobil Speedpass Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:14:55 -0500 Message-ID: <002701c29b00$445bfe20$0d0312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal I've had gasoline all over my crotch before. I won't risk getting that sensation again. --jon -----Original Message----- (various posters gas their bikes up while on them) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 15:17:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3KH0O7019047; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 15:17:00 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3KGxff019037; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 15:16:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021203201657.46564.qmail@web20705.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:16:57 -0800 (PST) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- rich hall wrote: > Anybody believe in the theory that you should use one brand of gas > and if possible from the same station? if you're trying to run some sort of experiment and you want to control for the fuel and remove it as a variable, sure. Other than that, hell no. I buy 2nd tier gas whenever I can. Normally Crown brand. When I'm in Spotsylvania I'll buy from a particular set of Amoco gas stations or the WaWa depending on where I am because I know they undercut everybody else nearby on price from 4 to 10 cents. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 15:24:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3KOMO7019410; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 15:24:22 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3KOMCq019404; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 15:24:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 15:24:20 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Paper To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass In-Reply-To: <20021203201657.46564.qmail@web20705.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, matthew patton wrote: > > --- rich hall wrote: > > Anybody believe in the theory that you should use one brand of gas > > and if possible from the same station? > > if you're trying to run some sort of experiment and you want to control > for the fuel and remove it as a variable, sure. Other than that, hell > no. I buy 2nd tier gas whenever I can. Normally Crown brand. When I'm > in Spotsylvania I'll buy from a particular set of Amoco gas stations or > the WaWa depending on where I am because I know they undercut everybody > else nearby on price from 4 to 10 cents. Besides price, I have heard from a couple of gear heads that the "freshness" of gas is also somewhat important, and that if you find a busy gas station that is constantly getting new tankfuls, that's going to be better gas. YMMV. The Sterling costco has like 12 or 6 pumps and often lines. I see a truck filling the inground tanks at least once a day. I don't know what tier gas they use. I suspect they buy wholesale whatever bits of gas they can find at the cheapest price. -dave -- cerberus@XXXXXX Little bunny Cthulhu hopping through the forest, www.ginch.org picking up fieldmice and ripping out their souls. Your screams, my music. Fight the break of dawn. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 15:30:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3KUeO7019774; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 15:30:40 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3KUeXb019768; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 15:30:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021203203037.95905.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:30:37 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass To: Dave Paper , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That fresh thing is true. They all buy the same gas. Its a commodity. There additives are whats different. --- Dave Paper wrote: > On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, matthew patton wrote: > > > > > --- rich hall wrote: > > > Anybody believe in the theory that you should > use one brand of gas > > > and if possible from the same station? > > > > if you're trying to run some sort of experiment > and you want to control > > for the fuel and remove it as a variable, sure. > Other than that, hell > > no. I buy 2nd tier gas whenever I can. Normally > Crown brand. When I'm > > in Spotsylvania I'll buy from a particular set of > Amoco gas stations or > > the WaWa depending on where I am because I know > they undercut everybody > > else nearby on price from 4 to 10 cents. > > Besides price, I have heard from a couple of gear > heads that the > "freshness" of gas is also somewhat important, and > that if you find a busy > gas station that is constantly getting new tankfuls, > that's going to be > better gas. YMMV. The Sterling costco has like 12 > or 6 pumps and often > lines. I see a truck filling the inground tanks at > least once a day. > > I don't know what tier gas they use. I suspect they > buy wholesale whatever > bits of gas they can find at the cheapest price. > > -dave > > -- > cerberus@XXXXXX > Little bunny Cthulhu hopping through the forest, > www.ginch.org > picking up fieldmice and ripping out their souls. > Your screams, my music. > Fight the break of dawn. > ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 16:52:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3Lq4O7020643; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 16:52:04 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3Lq3KT020633; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 16:52:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass From: Brian Roach To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <169.17f123bb.2b1e0d12@aol.com> References: <169.17f123bb.2b1e0d12@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk Date: 03 Dec 2002 16:51:56 -0500 Message-Id: <1038952316.10183.28.camel@www.dcc-racing.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 08:35, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > If the pump can read it remotely what is to stop a thief from reading/copying > it as they walk past you? I mean once they have it they would not need a > password or anything else. would they? > Paranoid minds want to know. It's actually a two-way communication using an encrypted symmetric key method of security. Speedpass fobs are active, not passive - they contain a battery and chip and actually "talk" to the pump. You have to replace the speedpass every 2-3 years due to battery life. Intercepting/Recording a single transmission from the pump and/or speedpass wouldn't do you any good (the key changes for each transaction) - you'd need to break the encryption scheme, then build a device that was able to answer the pump's interrogation with the proper encrypted response (containing someone else's account info). - Roach From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 17:32:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3MWsO7021228; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:32:54 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3MWsqu021222; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:32:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Sent: 3 Dec 2002 22:32:50 GMT Message-ID: <001601c29b1b$983c34e0$a09bd73f@oemcomputer> From: "Alex & Kris Morse" To: Subject: alternatives to bungee nets? Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:30:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Hi All, Do any of you have ideas for an alternative to bungee nets? I'm getting a little tired of replacing them after they stretch out and I've never been entirely confident about their stability when strapping down bulky stuff or riding at higher speeds. Thanks for any help, Alex Mt. Pleasant 01 Bandito Nekkido From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Dec 3 18:01:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gB3N1YO7021739; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 18:01:34 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gB3N1YEg021729; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 18:01:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.2.20021203175956.0614b530@fbody.com> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 18:10:12 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: Mobil Speedpass In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:56 AM 12/3/02 -0500, dan wrote: > > Anybody believe in the theory that you should use one brand of gas and if > > possible from the same s