From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 00:05:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7145wZ4024792; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:05:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7145vi5024784; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:05:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [216.165.5.103] From: "Pierre C" To: nyc-moto@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX Subject: Stranded in NY: Recommend a mechanic please! Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 05:05:47 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 04:05:47.0936 (UTC) FILETIME=[B76BF200:01C23910] My bike gave up. Obviously it's the charging system. The heat made it extremely lazy, and now it charges below 12 V. I am in NY city right now on a trip, on my own, and i also forgot to bring a spare rectifier with me (for the first time i should add). I would need someone to please advise me on which mechanic to contact. I know that listers don't like mechanics in general, but i do need one. I cleaned all my connections (starter relay and grounds included) on my 98 VFR just before coming, and i just saw the charging voltage dropping till today it went below 12V. I have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE what the hell is wrong with the bike: a mechanic saw it in DC, i tested the bike following the electrexusa.com flowchart and the manual. I can't find a single thing that's wrong. Please, i should need to make it home, anyone knows of a honest mechanic around NY? i am in manhattan, chelsea. Thank you, Pierfrancesco 98 VFR _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 06:37:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71AbDZ4027141; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:37:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71AbCsY027128; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:37:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: "Paul Wilson" , Subject: Re: me again! Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:36:01 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <02ca01c238dd$6ba1f820$bb82fea9@palladio1> In-Reply-To: <02ca01c238dd$6ba1f820$bb82fea9@palladio1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0208010636013H.16220@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wednesday 31 July 2002 17:52, Paul Wilson wrote: > That little "those that have and those that will" maxim has always bugged > me, as if to excuse sub-par performance. > > Sign least likely to be seen in the scrub room at your local hospital: > > "There are two kinds of surgeons, those who have killed a patient and those > that will." > Probably a better comparison would be "There are two kinds of surgeons, those who have been sued and those that will be sued" > Sign least likely to be seen at an airport: > > "There are two kinds of pilots, those who have crashed and those that > will." > "There are two kinds of pilots, those who have had an unruly passenger and those that will." > Paul in DC > "There are two kinds of BDC, those who have crashed and those that will." "There are two kinds of programmer, those who have 'crashed' and those that will." It's more of a warning than proof that if you ride, you _will_ crash. Be aware. If you _never_ crash then you have kept your head in all situations (or been really lucky). Carl -- Carl Schelin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 06:40:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71AemZ4027322; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:40:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71Aelbs027316; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:40:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: "Ricardo Pontes" , "dccycles" Subject: Re: thursday bike night at barnes and noble Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:39:35 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0208010639353I.16220@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wednesday 31 July 2002 23:04, Ricardo Pontes wrote: > I think people start to show up at around 8:00pm. Ive stayed there until > 12am before. But since they do stunts at airpark Rd, i might go up there to > see that after 9:00 or whatever. > 8pm! I'm settling down mentally and getting ready for bed. I have to get up at 4am to be at work. We need a Friday bike night (or Saturday). > Ricardo > Ill be the guy wearing the The Simpsons helmet :) > I'll be the guy sleeping at 10pm. Carl -- Carl Schelin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 06:57:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71AvIZ4027415; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:57:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71AvHd8027410; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 06:57:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020801105710.19171.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 03:57:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: cute? To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <81.1f3977ca.2a79fded@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > and a note: > > Nothing m/c related is cute. It can be hot, cool, > bitchin', > > spec-f#cking-tacular, schweeet, nearly anything else. > Never, EVER cute. > > Not Tom, not Chuck, not your bike, and not even you, > pun-kin. > > > > --jon > > > > now now now.. you know im new to the whole biker thing > but come on... i > believe that i am cute and my m/c is cute.... and maybe > even tom and chuck? > ..... but maybe you're right... 'hot' describes both my > bike and myself way > better! , what ... a ... piece ... of ... ass -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 07:20:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71BK4Z4027873; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:20:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71BK4A6027868; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:20:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <187.badd624.2a7a735b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:19:55 EDT Subject: Re: me again! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 7/31/2002 8:31:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jmstrang@XXXXXX writes: > (1) Yes, cage = car. And BDC is Brain Dead Cager. The worst case, IMHO, is > a BDC in a Volvo. Second worst is a Saab. I don't know why the BD-est of > the BDC migrate to Swedish cars. > Just count the wheels. Anything over 3 is the worst. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 07:27:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71BRvZ4028063; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:27:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71BRuPJ028058; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:27:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D491C88.2B6204A7@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 07:33:29 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: cute? References: <81.1f3977ca.2a79fded@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > now now now.. you know im new to the whole biker thing but come on... i > believe that i am cute and my m/c is cute.... and maybe even tom and chuck? > ..... but maybe you're right... 'hot' describes both my bike and myself way > better! (cute just sounds less conceded you know?!) Weellll, you may be cute, but Tom & Chuck? Nonono, when referring to a guy, cute is BAD! Cute is poofy. Cute is little, like a little kid. Us guys cringe at the implication of "little", much like a girl's reaction to "wide" or that F word that rhymes with cat. Hot doesn't work in biker-land either -- it's Hottie! I dearly love Hotties. And a motorcycle could be hot also. Flashback to the Suzuki advert blitz in the '80s which featured a Hottie in tight leathers - "Put something exciting between your legs" Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 07:29:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71BTsZ4028338; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:29:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71BTr11028332; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:29:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <6f.2b5ffa3c.2a7a75a7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:29:43 EDT Subject: Re: me again! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 7/31/2002 9:49:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, msandler@XXXXXX writes: > Its not the riders who > have crashed that you need to worry about, ITS THE ONES THAT HAVEN'T > Actually its the ones who know they are not going to crash that will get you into trouble. Note: _Always_ know where you are going, and how to get there so you do not have to keep up. _Do not_ let anyone "drag" you into speeds you are not comfortable with. Riding is _always_ a solo sport, it is just you and your bike, ride that way. Go for Smooth not speed, speed will come naturally (If you want it) when you get smooth. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 07:54:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71BsoZ4028753; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:54:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71Bsmqi028738; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:54:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <19b.635c6cc.2a7a7b7c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 07:54:36 EDT Subject: drag-a-way in monrovia, md To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 hi everyone! (again) howard was very nice to tell me about drag-a-way in monrovia tomorrow (friday). i do believe that we are going to meet up and head over there. anyone else interested in meeting us in westminster about 6? or is anyone else interested in meeting us in monrovia? from what howard said, spectators pay $7. if you really want to race, its $15. let me know if you're interested! jenn From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 08:07:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71C7SZ4028974; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:07:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71C7SBu028967; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:07:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.20020801082506.04243080@noid.org> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 08:25:38 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: drag-a-way in monrovia, md Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:54 AM 8/1/02 EDT, you wrote: >howard was very nice to tell me about drag-a-way in monrovia tomorrow >(friday). i do believe that we are going to meet up and head over there. >anyone else interested in meeting us in westminster about 6? or is anyone >else interested in meeting us in monrovia? from what howard said, spectators > >pay $7. if you really want to race, its $15. http://www.7580dragway.com/ I haven't been over there for several months (my car is in pieces :-) but Friday nights are pretty busy. If you can ignore the 16-second-Civic-baggy-pants-crowd, the OPS cars are down in the low-low 5s in the 1/8, which makes for some exciting spectating :-) MIR is having a bike shootout this weekend. A friend of mine with a stroked ZX12 is heading down to compete, using his nitrous setup for the first time - http://www.dontbescaredracing.com/ -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 08:10:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71CATZ4029154; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:10:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71CATHl029150; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:10:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020801121027.25119.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 05:10:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: me again! To: jmstrang@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <008601c2388e$445b49a0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Jon Strang wrote: > (1) Yes, cage = car. And BDC is Brain Dead Cager. The > worst case, IMHO, is > a BDC in a Volvo. Second worst is a Saab. I don't know > why the BD-est of > the BDC migrate to Swedish cars. i'm forwarding this to my wife (who drives a saab convertible).... keep an on your mailbox for a gift from eturd.com -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 08:45:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71CjUZ4029508; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:45:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71CjTEY029501; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:45:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 1 Aug 2002 12:45:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20020801124527.4784.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Times OP ED piece X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) from today's times: http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20020801-647230.htmEDITORIAL )B• August 1, 2002 Common sense and motorcycle licensing The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) recently published some interesting data regarding an alarming uptick in motorcycle accidents and fatalities. According to NHTSA, motorcycle registrations have increased substantially during the past few years, from 3.8 million to 4.2 million between 1997 and 1999, which is also exactly the same time period during which motorcycle accident fatality rates rose significantly as well )B— up to 23.4 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT) in 1999 from 21.0 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT) in 1997. Many of these fatalities involved older riders, those aged 40 and above, many of whom did not previously hold motorcycle licenses. Today, the average age of a motorcycle rider is 38.5 years, whereas it was 26.9 in 1980. It's almost certain that the increase in crashes noted by NHTSA these past several years is the result of rider inexperience )B— putting a relative novice on a huge bike that was probably chosen because it looked cool and the middle-aged guy buying it couldn't see himself putt-putting around on a lighter "starter bike." Most guys who don't get into cycling in their teenage or college years aren't likely to start out on the kinds of bikes that someone 16-22 years old would. That's not because of the inherent sensibility of the under-25 crowd. It's just simple economics: Under-25s don't have the money to buy a big bike, so they get what they can afford, which is almost always something smaller, lighter and less powerful than they'd get if they had the extra money. But a 35-year-old who is looking to buy his first bike is probably indulging himself with a "toy" and has disposable income to burn. He can afford the $8,000-$15,000 or more to buy a big cruiser, so he does. The results are predictable. It would probably be a good thing if either motorcycling license requirements were a bit tougher (they're laughable in most states), or if people simply exercised better judgment and kept within their limits. There's no shame in acquiring valuable motorcycling skills on a "starter bike" before moving up. Your life may depend upon your prudence. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 08:49:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71CnVZ4029728; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:49:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71CnV6W029724; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:49:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYtcxXQLAiw6paHEfKrWWZEWhGquuH5TjKe67QATGWmDaF1ET6SKGDFJSlucIL/vLQ= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Would folks pay for indoor winter bike storage? Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:49:58 -0400 Message-ID: <004001c23959$f189aec0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Winter...isn't that when I plug in my Widder electrics before I go for a ride? --jon 01 Suz Bandit 1200 -----Original Message----- From: Rob Curtis Helene and I are in the midst of doing some work on our home in Springfield that would include a sizable garage. I just went out back and measured out what 24x26 would look like and realized it's a lot of room! So, I'm thinking I've got room to store maybe 8-10 bikes for the winter. Would folks pay $350 for heated storage from December to March, with access and workshop privileges (w/free oil disposal!) on two Sundays/Mondays each month during the storage period? This wouldn't be a community garage, when the snow's gone, so are the bikes... Any Takers? Rob From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 08:54:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71CsfZ4029933; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:54:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71CselB029927; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:54:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.20020801091159.04247798@noid.org> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 09:12:51 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: RE: me again! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:10 AM 8/1/02 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: >--- Jon Strang wrote: >> (1) Yes, cage = car. And BDC is Brain Dead Cager. The >> worst case, IMHO, is >> a BDC in a Volvo. Second worst is a Saab. I don't know >> why the BD-est of >> the BDC migrate to Swedish cars. > >i'm forwarding this to my wife (who drives a saab >convertible).... > >keep an on your mailbox for a gift from eturd.com We sold a '98 Saab 900 Turbo when we bought our S4. My wife is a better driver in the Audi. ;-) ;-) Since we're gauging driving ability based on vehicle type, the worst drivers by far are Minima, er, Maxima drivers. :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 08:55:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71CtQZ4030119; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:55:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71CtP68030108; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:55:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbv6S74TEvXpSGanfUNwpLCa7Aj9aeleXCSeAPhSeKmr/7KllW/JMBKnXHFv15Jg5Q= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: me again! Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:55:52 -0400 Message-ID: <004101c2395a$c4e99f00$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020801121027.25119.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> A Snaab? I can't believe it. I thought you were proletariat from the ground up. I mean, the Duc was borderline...but you ride the wheels off of it and it's never been cleaned (bugs from *last* summer in the intakes!), so that was cool. My view of you, TG, has been shattered. Completely shattered. --jon p.s. Looking forward to the gift! -----Tom Gimer wrote: --- Jon Strang wrote: > (1) Yes, cage = car. And BDC is Brain Dead Cager. The > worst case, IMHO, is > a BDC in a Volvo. Second worst is a Saab. I don't know > why the BD-est of > the BDC migrate to Swedish cars. i'm forwarding this to my wife (who drives a saab convertible).... keep an on your mailbox for a gift from eturd.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 09:36:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71DaRZ4030474; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:36:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71DaRHx030469; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:36:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" To: "'Ricardo Pontes'" , dccycles Subject: RE: Thursday bike night at barnes and noble Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:36:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain Hey, people don't go to airpark anymore there was a terrible accident there about two weeks ago a guy died in front of Iron works cycles and the cops patrol the area heavily. So don't even go near airpark on a Thursday. I'll be the one with the blue Katana. art -----Original Message----- From: Ricardo Pontes [mailto:ricardo@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:04 PM To: dccycles Subject: RE: thursday bike night at barnes and noble I think people start to show up at around 8:00pm. Ive stayed there until 12am before. But since they do stunts at airpark Rd, i might go up there to see that after 9:00 or whatever. Ricardo Ill be the guy wearing the The Simpsons helmet :) I actually have a night free, what time will this bike night start? Scott Russell 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S -----Original Message----- From: Ricardo Pontes [mailto:ricardo@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:18 PM To: dccycles Subject: thursday bike night at barnes and noble Thursday Bike night at Barnes and Noble in Rockville, MD. Anyone coming from the dccycles group? Am i the only one? The b&N is off of route 355(rockville pike) and Randolph Road. Ricardo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 09:43:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71DhRZ4030679; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:43:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71DhRke030674; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:43:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaYtcXna8GVLA+gTbQpYKGhNZqXaIGDS+sxTDGE8mMlBJvuAZXAM2/5xFFqgrkD2xo= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: cute? Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:43:54 -0400 Message-ID: <004901c23961$7adf4a20$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <81.1f3977ca.2a79fded@aol.com> jtb wrote: > now now now.. you know im new to the whole biker thing but > come on... i believe that i am cute and my m/c is cute.... I can just hear the blonde (sorry, Patti) "huh-Huh!" smiley-giggle thing going on after that statement. Complete with head cock, hair flip, eye twinkle, and vacant grin. > and maybe even tom and chuck? No, not even in the slightest. And Tom is fictitious. He's really one of Chuck's pseudonyms. We know Chuck is real, cuz we see him on da TV alla time. Speaking of pseudonyms, are you sure you're not Bill Huson (or someone else) E. Anking our chains? > ..... but maybe you're right... 'hot' describes both my bike and myself way > better! (cute just sounds less conceded you know?!) Conceded? I'm confused. Oh, conceited. As in "I thought I was cute and a real hottie, but someone told me I was just conceited." Got it. >thanks for the biker lingo lesson! all of you really do know lots of stuff! That's b/c we've got lots of experience working on our thing-a-mabobs and using our doohickeys. --jon I need more coffee. I feel grumpy. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 10:08:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71E8EZ4031005; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:08:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71E8DN0030986; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:08:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D49421E.758CA16@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 10:13:50 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jmstrang@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: cute? References: <004901c23961$7adf4a20$070312ac@ddlomni.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jon Strang wrote: > jtb wrote: > > > now now now.. you know im new to the whole biker thing but > > come on... i believe that i am cute and my m/c is cute.... > > No, not even in the slightest. And Tom is fictitious. He's really one of > Chuck's pseudonyms. We know Chuck is real, cuz we see him on da TV alla > time. > > Speaking of pseudonyms, are you sure you're not Bill Huson (or someone else) > E. Anking our chains? ME? Faking a female persona? Nonono. Well, in my youth I did have a nice collection of female silky thangs. Sorta like a tactile journal... oh, nevermind. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 10:11:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71EBDZ4031057; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:11:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71EBDRZ031051; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:11:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Paddle Walkin' Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:11:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I figure they're self-taught, inexperienced, a combo of the two or comedians. MSF courses instruct not to, experienced KNOWLEDGEABLE riders know better. I've ridden forward control HD's, once or twice and never felt the need to. Perhaps it's a balance issue on the rider's part. One thing MSF talks about is... getting over it. If you do "paddle" walk, practice NOT doing it. Get you feet up on the foot rests for quick access to the controls. It is rather humorous looking. >What's up with all these people that paddle-walk their bikes at slow speeds? >I don't mean to pick on the Harley riders here, but I see it a LOT with >people on Harleys, especially baggers. I realize that these are heavy bikes, >>but I thought they carried their weight pretty low, so slow speed stability >should not be an issue. I'm riding a Concours, which is massively top-heavy, >and can pretty much never put a foot down except at a full stop. And if I'm >on the ZX-6, it's even easier to not put a foot down. >At first I thought these were just very inexperienced riders, or maybe just >lazy, but then I got to wonder if it's because so many Harleys (and other >cruisers) have forward mounted pegs. I haven't ridden anything with pegs >that weren't largely underneath my body, so I don't know if that would make >a difference. Of course, most baggers tend to have floorboards, so I don't >know if that makes a difference. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 10:22:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71EM1Z4031405; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:22:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71EM0pY031397; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:22:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <006c01c23966$1794cb70$b5562441@cato.org> Reply-To: "Steve Miller" From: "Steve Miller" To: References: <20020801124527.4784.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Subject: Re: Times OP ED piece Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:16:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 The problem with graduated licensing is that it tends to focus on displacement rather than kill-me potential. Is a 1500cc cruiser really more dangerous for an inexperienced rider than a 600 Supersport? If it's true that "[m]any of these fatalities involved older riders, those aged 40 and above, many of whom did not previously hold motorcycle licenses," then I wonder what are the obvious difference is with that rider groups' demographic. Are they less likely to wear helmets, or less likely to wear good helmets (I see a lot of beanies on weekends)? Are they much less likely to get rider training, i.e. MSF course, track school? -- Steve, just wondering. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:45 AM Subject: Times OP ED piece > from today's times: > http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20020801-647230.htmEDITORIAL > > . August 1, 2002 > > Common sense and motorcycle licensing > > The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) recently published some interesting data regarding an alarming uptick in motorcycle accidents and fatalities. According to NHTSA, motorcycle registrations have increased substantially during the past few years, from 3.8 million to 4.2 million between 1997 and 1999, which is also exactly the same time period during which motorcycle accident fatality rates rose significantly as well - up to 23.4 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT) in 1999 from 21.0 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT) in 1997. Many of these fatalities involved older riders, those aged 40 and above, many of whom did not previously hold motorcycle licenses. Today, the average age of a motorcycle rider is 38.5 years, whereas it was 26.9 in 1980. > It's almost certain that the increase in crashes noted by NHTSA these past several years is the result of rider inexperience - putting a relative novice on a huge bike that was probably chosen because it looked cool and the middle-aged guy buying it couldn't see himself putt-putting around on a lighter "starter bike." Most guys who don't get into cycling in their teenage or college years aren't likely to start out on the kinds of bikes that someone 16-22 years old would. That's not because of the inherent sensibility of the under-25 crowd. It's just simple economics: Under-25s don't have the money to buy a big bike, so they get what they can afford, which is almost always something smaller, lighter and less powerful than they'd get if they had the extra money. But a 35-year-old who is looking to buy his first bike is probably indulging himself with a "toy" and has disposable income to burn. He can afford the $8,000-$15,000 or more to buy a big cruiser, so he does. > The results are predictable. It would probably be a good thing if either motorcycling license requirements were a bit tougher (they're laughable in most states), or if people simply exercised better judgment and kept within their limits. There's no shame in acquiring valuable motorcycling skills on a "starter bike" before moving up. Your life may depend upon your prudence. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Powered by Wild On Web: > Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! > http://www.wildonweb.com > |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| > |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 10:23:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71ENgZ4031578; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:23:42 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71ENf92031572; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:23:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.48.118.251] From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: thursday bike night at barnes and noble Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 10:22:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 14:22:35.0478 (UTC) FILETIME=[E1A2B760:01C23966] I'll probably stop by the B&N tonight, too. What the hell. Pass on the Airpark Rd. show. Not after that fatal last month. Rob '98 VFR800 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "dccycles" Subject: RE: thursday bike night at barnes and noble Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:04:01 -0400 I think people start to show up at around 8:00pm. Ive stayed there until 12am before. But since they do stunts at airpark Rd, i might go up there to see that after 9:00 or whatever. Ricardo Ill be the guy wearing the The Simpsons helmet :) I actually have a night free, what time will this bike night start? Scott Russell 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S -----Original Message----- From: Ricardo Pontes [mailto:ricardo@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:18 PM To: dccycles Subject: thursday bike night at barnes and noble Thursday Bike night at Barnes and Noble in Rockville, MD. Anyone coming from the dccycles group? Am i the only one? The b&N is off of route 355(rockville pike) and Randolph Road. Ricardo _________________________________________________________________ Join the world)B’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 10:46:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71EkMZ4031888; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:46:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71EkMFg031883; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:46:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 1 Aug 2002 14:46:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20020801144620.24549.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: Times OP ED piece X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) A wondering Steve pondered aloud- >The problem with graduated licensing is that it tends to focus on >displacement rather than kill-me potential. Is a 1500cc cruiser really more >dangerous for an inexperienced rider than a 600 Supersport? [Dave] When you put a kid with no previous riding experience or training on a bicycle with no training wheels, what happens ? I think (I'm not opining in this case) the thrust of the article is that in general motorcycle ridership is getting older & including more 'affluent' newbies that *CAN* afford bikes that are more likely to get them in trouble if they're not careful... the last 4 words being operative. If it's true >that "[m]any of these fatalities involved older riders, those aged 40 and >above, many of whom did not previously hold motorcycle licenses," then I >wonder what are the obvious difference is with that rider groups' >demographic. Are they less likely to wear helmets, or less likely to wear >good helmets (I see a lot of beanies on weekends)? Are they much less >likely to get rider training, i.e. MSF course, track school? [Dave] darn good question(s). Driver training in general is pathetic here, rider training is only marginally better. What seems to be indicated by the article is that 16-40 year olds with mega mondo horsepower are ok, but old timers (40 & over) need remedial training... Out of the blue question: Aren't Sikh males required to wear a turban ? Isn't it religious disrimination to compel them to wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle ? Dave >-- Steve, just wondering. >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:45 AM >Subject: Times OP ED piece >> from today's times: >> http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20020801-647230.htmEDITORIAL >> >> . August 1, 2002 >> >> Common sense and motorcycle licensing >> >> The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) recently >published some interesting data regarding an alarming uptick in motorcycle >accidents and fatalities. According to NHTSA, motorcycle registrations have >increased substantially during the past few years, from 3.8 million to 4.2 >million between 1997 and 1999, which is also exactly the same time period >during which motorcycle accident fatality rates rose significantly as well - >up to 23.4 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT) in 1999 from >21.0 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT) in 1997. Many of >these fatalities involved older riders, those aged 40 and above, many of >whom did not previously hold motorcycle licenses. Today, the average age of >a motorcycle rider is 38.5 years, whereas it was 26.9 in 1980. >> It's almost certain that the increase in crashes noted by NHTSA >these past several years is the result of rider inexperience - putting a >relative novice on a huge bike that was probably chosen because it looked >cool and the middle-aged guy buying it couldn't see himself putt-putting >around on a lighter "starter bike." Most guys who don't get into cycling in >their teenage or college years aren't likely to start out on the kinds of >bikes that someone 16-22 years old would. That's not because of the inherent >sensibility of the under-25 crowd. It's just simple economics: Under-25s >don't have the money to buy a big bike, so they get what they can afford, >which is almost always something smaller, lighter and less powerful than >they'd get if they had the extra money. But a 35-year-old who is looking to >buy his first bike is probably indulging himself with a "toy" and has >disposable income to burn. He can afford the $8,000-$15,000 or more to buy a >big cruiser, so he does. >> The results are predictable. It would probably be a good thing if >either motorcycling license requirements were a bit tougher (they're >laughable in most states), or if people simply exercised better judgment and >kept within their limits. There's no shame in acquiring valuable >motorcycling skills on a "starter bike" before moving up. Your life may >depend upon your prudence. >> >> >> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Powered by Wild On Web: >> Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! >> http://www.wildonweb.com >> |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| >> |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 10:59:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71ExhZ4032103; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:59:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71ExhEX032097; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:59:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <017501c2396c$bc316480$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: , References: <20020801124527.4784.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Subject: Re: Times OP ED piece Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:03:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ----- Original Message ----- From: > from today's times: > http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20020801-647230.htmEDITORIAL > > . August 1, 2002 > > Common sense and motorcycle licensing > > The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) recently published some interesting data regarding an alarming uptick in motorcycle accidents and fatalities. According to NHTSA, motorcycle registrations have increased substantially during the past few years, from 3.8 million to 4.2 million between 1997 and 1999, which is also exactly the same time period during which motorcycle accident fatality rates rose significantly as well - up to 23.4 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT) in 1999 from 21.0 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT) in 1997. Many of these fatalities involved older riders, those aged 40 and above, many of whom did not previously hold motorcycle licenses. Today, the average age of a motorcycle rider is 38.5 years, whereas it was 26.9 in 1980. ---- PW: Hey, I'm still below average.... Ronald Reagan used to remark, "the nine scariest words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" In a similar vein, the five scariest words in the English language to an MSF instructor during the Friday night intros are, "I've been riding for years." The skill level among "re-treads" and self-described "experienced" riders is sometimes downright frightening. ---- Times: > It's almost certain that the increase in crashes noted by NHTSA these past several years is the result of rider inexperience - putting a relative novice on a huge bike that was probably chosen because it looked cool and the middle-aged guy buying it couldn't see himself putt-putting around on a lighter "starter bike." ---- PW: I dunno, a Buell Blast can serve as a remarkably effective gene pool removal tool, in the "wrong" hands. ---- Times: Most guys who don't get into cycling in their teenage or college years aren't likely to start out on the kinds of bikes that someone 16-22 years old would. That's not because of the inherent sensibility of the under-25 crowd. It's just simple economics: Under-25s don't have the money to buy a big bike, so they get what they can afford, which is almost always something smaller, lighter and less powerful than they'd get if they had the extra money. ----- PW: One wonders if the Times editorialist has heard of credit unions, banks, and "easy terms" dealer financing. I see plenty of young sub-25-year-olds on brand new liter bikes that aren't exactly cheap. ----- Times: But a 35-year-old who is looking to buy his first bike is probably indulging himself with a "toy" and has disposable income to burn. He can afford the $8,000-$15,000 or more to buy a big cruiser, so he does. > The results are predictable. It would probably be a good thing if either motorcycling license requirements were a bit tougher (they're laughable in most states), or if people simply exercised better judgment and kept within their limits. There's no shame in acquiring valuable motorcycling skills on a "starter bike" before moving up. Your life may depend upon your prudence. ----- PW: Interesting to see a newspaper editorial on bikes that's somewhat nuanced and thoughtful. They don't mention rider impairment, though, which is a big factor in crashes, as well as the riders who don't even bother to comply with the "laughable" state requirements and ride without endorsements. They seem to be hinting at graduated licensing, without coming out and saying it. And, as one would expect from the Times, they place the onus on the individual, where it belongs. Paul in DC From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 11:33:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71FXaZ4032636; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:33:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71FXZLL032620; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:33:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:36:10 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: sdave@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: Times OP ED piece In-Reply-To: <20020801144620.24549.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > [Dave] When you put a kid with no previous riding experience or training > on a bicycle with no training wheels, what happens ? > > I think (I'm not opining in this case) the thrust of the article is that > in general motorcycle ridership is getting older & including more > 'affluent' newbies that *CAN* afford bikes that are more likely to get > them in trouble if they're not careful... the last 4 words being > operative. > I think the Motor Co. should pay up for MSF classes. Its not like they dont make a ton of profit per bike, it would keep their rider/buyer base more in tact. Honda does. My father, who's in his 50's has gotten the hankering for a softail because his buddy is thinking about getting one. Neither thought about any rider training, or even wearing helmets for that matter (they live in IL). I've let him take my bike around the block. I cringe at the thought of him going out on the streets. A friend's dad also got the hankerin for a big bad hog, he had it for two weeks, then spent another four in the hospital. I agree that they should start out on something smaller, but in most cases its just plain denial, they won't be the one that wrecks, thats why the start big and wear no gear. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 11:36:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71FaOZ4000354; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:36:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71FaOAo000345; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:36:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020801113809.0358bd90@mail.ncifcrf.gov> X-Sender: wilsonl@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 11:38:50 -0700 To: "Rob Keiser" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Lori Wilson Subject: RE: thursday bike night at barnes and noble In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Rob/All I'll be either at the Barnes and Noble or the Hooters tonight Yellow VFR/Orange front fender At 10:22 AM 8/1/02 -0400, Rob Keiser wrote: >I'll probably stop by the B&N tonight, too. What the hell. > >Pass on the Airpark Rd. show. Not after that fatal last month. > >Rob >'98 VFR800 > >From: "Ricardo Pontes" >To: "dccycles" >Subject: RE: thursday bike night at barnes and noble >Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:04:01 -0400 > > > >I think people start to show up at around 8:00pm. Ive stayed there until >12am before. But since they do stunts at airpark Rd, i might go up there to >see that after 9:00 or whatever. > >Ricardo >Ill be the guy wearing the The Simpsons helmet :) > > >I actually have a night free, what time will this bike night start? > >Scott Russell >1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ricardo Pontes [mailto:ricardo@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 5:18 PM >To: dccycles >Subject: thursday bike night at barnes and noble > > > > >Thursday Bike night at Barnes and Noble in Rockville, MD. Anyone coming from >the dccycles group? Am i the only one? The b&N is off of route 355(rockville >pike) and Randolph Road. > >Ricardo > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 11:43:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71FhVZ4000608; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:43:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71FhVhV000604; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:43:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 1 Aug 2002 15:43:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20020801154329.875.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: Re: Times OP ED piece X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) A still wondering Steve Asked: >> [Dave] When you put a kid with no previous riding experience or training >on a bicycle with no training wheels, >what happens ? Steve: >They fall over, but they don't DIE. That's what I don't get. [Dave] Ok... Good point... ;-) I can imagine >many of these guys dropping their bikes in parking lots or at stop signs, >but a fatal accident generally happens at speed, when the bike is much more >stable all on its own. Aren't fatal accidents generally the result of >riding over your head, or mis-judging traffic, i.e. not knowing how to avoid >the BDCs? [Dave] PW(Paul) had some good points. I forget the percentage, but a large number of riders go down 'impaired' by chemicals. Failure to negotiate turn(s) is up there too... I'm not sure the displacement or weight of a bike is a factor in >the case of the latter, and I always thought the limitations of most >cruisers tend to prevent the former. [Dave] I think the Times Editorial staff can find more significant things to write about, like common sense license reform for CAR & SUV drivers. The numbers show the carnage plain and simple, more people die from minivans & SUV's than even RIDE motorcycles ! ! ! ! Stop the Horror, For the Children ! Another out of the blue question: Why isn't the conductor of train that wrecked in jail ? He saw an obstruction on the tracks, hit the brakes & couldn't stop. Many injuries resulted. Conductor was obviously going to fast for conditions if he couldn't stop... He could've killed dozens, and he still walks free. If any one of us did that in our commuting, we would be hauled off to jail... I'm just asking... Dave >-- Steve, still wondering. >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:46 AM >Subject: Re: Re: Times OP ED piece >> A wondering Steve pondered aloud- >> >> >The problem with graduated licensing is that it tends to focus on >> >displacement rather than kill-me potential. Is a 1500cc cruiser really >more >> >dangerous for an inexperienced rider than a 600 Supersport? >> >> [Dave] When you put a kid with no previous riding experience or training >on a bicycle with no training wheels, what happens ? >> >> I think (I'm not opining in this case) the thrust of the article is that >in general motorcycle ridership is getting older & including more 'affluent' >newbies that *CAN* afford bikes that are more likely to get them in trouble >if they're not careful... the last 4 words being operative. >> >> If it's true >> >that "[m]any of these fatalities involved older riders, those aged 40 and >> >above, many of whom did not previously hold motorcycle licenses," then I >> >wonder what the obvious difference is with that rider groups' >> >demographic. Are they less likely to wear helmets, or less likely to >wear >> >good helmets (I see a lot of beanies on weekends)? Are they much less >> >likely to get rider training, i.e. MSF course, track school? >> >> [Dave] darn good question(s). Driver training in general is pathetic >here, rider training is only marginally better. What seems to be indicated >by the article is that 16-40 year olds with mega mondo horsepower are ok, >but old timers (40 & over) need remedial training... >> >> Out of the blue question: >> >> Aren't Sikh males required to wear a turban ? Isn't it religious >disrimination to compel them to wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle ? >> >> >> Dave >> >> >-- Steve, just wondering. >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: >> >To: >> >Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:45 AM >> >Subject: Times OP ED piece >> >> from today's times: >> >> http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20020801-647230.htmEDITORIAL >> >> >> >> . August 1, 2002 >> >> >> >> Common sense and motorcycle licensing >> >> >> >> The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) >recently >> >published some interesting data regarding an alarming uptick in >motorcycle >> >accidents and fatalities. According to NHTSA, motorcycle registrations >have >> >increased substantially during the past few years, from 3.8 million to >4.2 >> >million between 1997 and 1999, which is also exactly the same time period >> >during which motorcycle accident fatality rates rose significantly as >well - >> >up to 23.4 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT) in 1999 >from >> >21.0 deaths per 100 million vehicle miles traveled (VMT) in 1997. Many of >> >these fatalities involved older riders, those aged 40 and above, many of >> >whom did not previously hold motorcycle licenses. Today, the average age >of >> >a motorcycle rider is 38.5 years, whereas it was 26.9 in 1980. >> >> It's almost certain that the increase in crashes noted by NHTSA >> >these past several years is the result of rider inexperience - putting a >> >relative novice on a huge bike that was probably chosen because it looked >> >cool and the middle-aged guy buying it couldn't see himself putt-putting >> >around on a lighter "starter bike." Most guys who don't get into cycling >in >> >their teenage or college years aren't likely to start out on the kinds of >> >bikes that someone 16-22 years old would. That's not because of the >inherent >> >sensibility of the under-25 crowd. It's just simple economics: Under-25s >> >don't have the money to buy a big bike, so they get what they can afford, >> >which is almost always something smaller, lighter and less powerful than >> >they'd get if they had the extra money. But a 35-year-old who is looking >to >> >buy his first bike is probably indulging himself with a "toy" and has >> >disposable income to burn. He can afford the $8,000-$15,000 or more to >buy a >> >big cruiser, so he does. >> >> The results are predictable. It would probably be a good thing if >> >either motorcycling license requirements were a bit tougher (they're >> >laughable in most states), or if people simply exercised better judgment >and >> >kept within their limits. There's no shame in acquiring valuable >> >motorcycling skills on a "starter bike" before moving up. Your life may >> >depend upon your prudence. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> Powered by Wild On Web: >> >> Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! >> >> http://www.wildonweb.com >> >> |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| >> >> |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... >> >> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Powered by Wild On Web: >> Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! >> http://www.wildonweb.com >> |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| >> |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 11:44:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71FicZ4000896; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:44:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71Fic8p000891; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:44:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Subject: Re: Times OP ED piece Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:43:27 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <20020801124527.4784.qmail@server445.gisol.com> <017501c2396c$bc316480$bb82fea9@palladio1> In-Reply-To: <017501c2396c$bc316480$bb82fea9@palladio1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0208011143273L.16220@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thursday 01 August 2002 11:03, Paul Wilson wrote: > ---- > > Times: > > It's almost certain that the increase in crashes noted by NHTSA > > these past several years is the result of rider inexperience - putting a > relative novice on a huge bike that was probably chosen because it looked > cool and the middle-aged guy buying it couldn't see himself putt-putting > around on a lighter "starter bike." > > ---- > PW: I dunno, a Buell Blast can serve as a remarkably effective gene pool > removal tool, in the "wrong" hands. > Yea, but it's probably already too late by then, 40+ year old drivers very likely already have propigated their defective genes by then. > ---- > Times: > ----- > PW: One wonders if the Times editorialist has heard of credit unions, > banks, and "easy terms" dealer financing. I see plenty of young > sub-25-year-olds on brand new liter bikes that aren't exactly cheap. > And Harley-Davidson seems to accept just about anyone with the 10% down payment. The interest rate may be illegal but you have a bike :-) > ----- > > Times: But a 35-year-old who is looking to buy his first bike is probably > indulging himself with a "toy" and has disposable income to burn. He can > afford the $8,000-$15,000 or more to buy a big cruiser, so he does. > Yea but lots of them are posers. I've seen several bikes for sale with less than 2k miles on them and are 2 or 3 years old. Buy it, park it, admire themselves, sell it. Besides, "many of the riders are over 40" may not be all that significant a number. How many is "many"? What ratio? What conditions? Long distance? City? Left turn accidents? What other information is available? Plus, that means that "most" of the accidents are happening to the under 40 crowd. Carl -- Carl Schelin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 11:46:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71FkQZ4001093; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:46:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71FkPmR001085; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:46:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaU14uNUATPKlBr00JAw+zsUSsgu1LP7o801RrMeY7EkRZOMOObWhiZKNHNCSuObQY= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: Re: Times OP ED piece Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:46:52 -0400 Message-ID: <005201c23972$a81c30f0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: NO! There is NO SUCH THING AS THE COMPANY PAYING FOR IT!!!! jeebus, why do people say such things? The money doesn't come from "the company". It comes from the price I/you/we PAY for the bike(s). It's not semantics. It's that the price will rise exactly the amount that it costs to fund the MSF classes. You can't tax a for-profit company, you can't levy a judgment (e.g. Philip Morris) on a for-profit company, you can't make THEM pay for something. The CUSTOMER(s) always pays. The tobacco suits basically just enacted a new tax on smokers (mostly poor people) and sent the money to the legal teams assorted government(s) agencies. A hugely regressive tax supported by (mainly) Democrats who are supposed to be against these things. --jon sick and tired of it today. so sorry, nothing personal. finex rant-ex. -----dan wrote: I think the Motor Co. should pay up for MSF classes. Its not like they dont make a ton of profit per bike, it would keep their rider/buyer base more in tact. Honda does. My father, who's in his 50's has gotten the hankering for a softail because his buddy is thinking about getting one. Neither thought about any rider training, or even wearing helmets for that matter (they live in IL). I've let him take my bike around the block. I cringe at the thought of him going out on the streets. A friend's dad also got the hankerin for a big bad hog, he had it for two weeks, then spent another four in the hospital. I agree that they should start out on something smaller, but in most cases its just plain denial, they won't be the one that wrecks, thats why the start big and wear no gear. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 11:47:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71FlsZ4001278; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:47:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71FlraB001272; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:47:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVanj5T8wBbkN9wrSSjdHxlGUSqGIAoqpECripdgjs4e5A2RKlSNtC2yBVxo3X5BeRU= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: , Subject: RE: Re: Re: Times OP ED piece Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:48:20 -0400 Message-ID: <005301c23972$dceed5d0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020801154329.875.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Trains take mile(s) to stop. ------------------------ Another out of the blue question: Why isn't the conductor of train that wrecked in jail ? He saw an obstruction on the tracks, hit the brakes & couldn't stop. Many injuries resulted. Conductor was obviously going to fast for conditions if he couldn't stop... He could've killed dozens, and he still walks free. If any one of us did that in our commuting, we would be hauled off to jail... I'm just asking... Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 12:22:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71GM1Z4001670; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:22:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71GM1AE001665; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:22:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <007b01c23978$3a135740$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: , References: <20020801154329.875.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Subject: OT Trains, was Re: Re: Re: Times OP ED piece Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:25:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 First of all, on a passenger train, the engineer (and sometimes an assistant) is in the cab and can apply the brakes, not the conductor. On freight trains the engineer and conductor ride up front. And, as someone else pointed out, even with "dumping the air" or "big holing" in a emergency stop a train takes a very long distance to stop. You're up against the weight of the train and the low friction of steel wheels on steel rails. The same factors that make trains highly efficient (low rolling resistance of steel on steel) means that can't stop on a dime. Still, crews can be liable if they violate company or federal rules, are impaired, etc. If a motorist fails to stop at a grade crossing, the most common "accident," there's not a lot they can do. If you are speaking of Monday's wreck in Kensington, according to news reports the engineer saw the buckled track and applied the brakes. The train was moving at 60 mph, so it could not stop in time. He complied with the rules, apparently, was not speeding, etc. Still, there will be a "pee in the cup" style investigation to rule out impairment. Event recorders will determine how, where and when the brakes were applied. Preliminary evidence points to shoddy track maintenance as the culprit. If trains had to stop short of any obstruction they could never move more than about 10-15 mph. Paul in DC ----- Original Message ----- From: > > Why isn't the conductor of train that wrecked in jail ? He saw an obstruction on the tracks, hit the brakes & couldn't stop. Many injuries resulted. Conductor was obviously going to fast for conditions if he couldn't stop... He could've killed dozens, and he still walks free. If any one of us did that in our commuting, we would be hauled off to jail... > > I'm just asking... > > Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 12:22:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71GMcZ4001857; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:22:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71GMc8F001850; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:22:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020801162235.52132.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:22:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Withrow Subject: Re: cute? To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <81.1f3977ca.2a79fded@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > ..... but maybe you're right... 'hot' describes both > my bike and myself way > better! (cute just sounds less conceded you know?!) > I am going to need to see photographs before I can chime in on this one. Feel free to send them along. ;) Todd ===== AIM: Inf DS http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow ----------------------------------------------------------- Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 12:29:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71GT3Z4002259; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:29:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71GT2Rx002253; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:29:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00ae01c23978$75b7be30$776c52a4@rclibB2YKR01> From: "Patti Rodgers" To: , References: <004901c23961$7adf4a20$070312ac@ddlomni.com> Subject: Re: cute? Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:28:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 > I can just hear the blonde (sorry, Patti) "huh-Huh!" smiley-giggle thing > going on after that statement. > Complete with head cock, hair flip, eye twinkle, and vacant grin. I'm not a blonde. I am a fashion-enhanced brunette. cheers, Patti From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 12:35:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71GZiZ4002572; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:35:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71GZhNd002563; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:35:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.20020801123616.04a81588@noid.org> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 12:36:48 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Weekend ride (was im new!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:48 AM 7/30/02 -0700, you wrote: >I'm setting up a ride for this Saturday, 8/3. It will be a mix of >sportbikes (Hayabusa, ZX-11, CBR F4i) and cruisers/standards (HD Dyna, HD >Road King, Suzuki Intruder 800, Suzuki GS500E, Honda CB750). 2 of the >riders are pretty new, with only 2-3 months experience (Intruder and >GS500E). We'll probably start from my house on the east side of >Frederick, just off route 70. > >The ride will be pretty relaxed, although I'll include some nice twisties >for those of us that would like to break away for more spirited riding. > >Drop me an e-mail if you'd like me to include you in the private e-mails >regarding the route and directions to my house. > >-- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ I probably should have sent this to Jenn directly. Thanks for all of the private e-mails expressing interest in riding with me, really, I'm flattered :-) However, I was only trying to give Jenn the opportunity to ride with some other newbs in a 'ride your own ride' group. With all of the private e-mails I've received, maybe one of you guys should organize a DC-Cycles ride for this weekend. Seems like there is interest :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 12:41:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71Gf2Z4002818; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:41:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71Gf2fa002810; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:41:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020801164100.44205.qmail@web10508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:41:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Withrow Subject: Re: Re: Times OP ED piece To: sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020801144620.24549.qmail@server445.gisol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > Out of the blue question: > > Aren't Sikh males required to wear a turban ? Isn't > it religious disrimination to compel them to wear a > helmet while riding a motorcycle ? > > > Dave IIRC, a Canadian Sikh male made that arguement and won. I hope his turban has styrofoam padding and reinforced with kevlar. Todd ===== AIM: Inf DS http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow ----------------------------------------------------------- Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 12:46:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71GkBZ4003013; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:46:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71GkAvF003008; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:46:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020801164607.94601.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:46:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Withrow Subject: Re: Re: Re: Times OP ED piece To: sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020801154329.875.qmail@server445.gisol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > Another out of the blue question: > > Why isn't the conductor of train that wrecked in > jail ? He saw an obstruction on the tracks, hit the > brakes & couldn't stop. Many injuries resulted. > Conductor was obviously going to fast for conditions > if he couldn't stop... He could've killed dozens, > and he still walks free. If any one of us did that > in our commuting, we would be hauled off to jail... > > > I'm just asking... > > Dave > When cars fall into the the 5 ft. wide potholes on DC bridges, the driver is not charged. If you crest a hill to find a farm tractor parked in the road and you strike it, you are not charged. Those are unexpected road hazards, not environmental conditions such as rain and sleet where a reasonable person would expect you to exercise more caution. Todd (aka The Answer Man ) or as my mother referred to me for years 'Damn Smart Ass' ===== AIM: Inf DS http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow ----------------------------------------------------------- Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 12:53:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71GrbZ4003217; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:53:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71Grbnk003212; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:53:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYCfGqBsS8mL9hxyG2sZ5+dyTQIhTy6CwvLet0pN93T8D0yW51SHjzDopYivipGeLI= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Weekend ride (was im new!) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:54:04 -0400 Message-ID: <005d01c2397c$0bbeb250$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20020801123616.04a81588@noid.org> It's not you, it's Jenn. All of us lonely loser computer geeks have nothing better to do than fantasize about Jenn (since we'd never actually have the courage to *talk* to a live one... in person) and chat on several lists are hoping that she'll be swept off of her feet by our sleek m/c's and our finely honed riding skills. For me, I'm just hoping that the acne subsides before I go completely bald. --jon, 35yo virgin with a great list of bookmarks and a strong grip -----Wayne Edelen wrote: > Thanks for all of the > private e-mails expressing interest in riding with me, really, I'm > flattered From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 13:23:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71HNXZ4003750; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:23:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71HNXJ3003745; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:23:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 1 Aug 2002 17:23:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20020801172331.25866.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Times OP ED piece X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) Answer man Todd chimed in - >--- sdave@XXXXXX wrote: >> Another out of the blue question: >> >> Why isn't the conductor of train that wrecked in >> jail ? >When cars fall into the the 5 ft. wide potholes on DC >bridges, the driver is not charged. [Dave] Actually, I think here the city is supposed to ante up... I recall my parents getting money from a DC pot hole years ago... If you crest a >hill to find a farm tractor parked in the road and you >strike it, you are not charged. [Dave] Ok... I can buy that... but if it's moving, even really slowly, that would probably be an 'at fault' event.... Those are unexpected >road hazards, not environmental conditions such as >rain and sleet where a reasonable person would expect >you to exercise more caution. [Dave] And actually, I heard that they're reducing the train speed from 70 - 45 mph over 90 degrees now... >Todd (aka The Answer Man ) >or as my mother referred to me for years 'Damn Smart Ass' [Dave] My mom called me "Mr. Smarty Pants" ;-) still does... >===== >AIM: Inf DS >http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow >----------------------------------------------------------- >Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better >http://health.yahoo.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 13:26:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71HQYZ4003932; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:26:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71HQXkj003927; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:26:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-id: Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 13:22:31 -0400 Subject: Re: Stranded in NY: Recommend a mechanic please! To: piffiffi@XXXXXX Cc: nyc-moto@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit piffiffi@XXXXXX writes: >My bike gave up. Obviously it's the charging system. The heat made it >extremely lazy, and now it charges below 12 V. I am in NY city right now >on >a trip, on my own, [snip] I don't know any NY people, so I can't help you there. If you can't find anyone, you CAN get back to dc as follows (general comments---don't know vfr circuits specifically): (1) fully recharge your battery. (2) Pull the headlight fuse(s) (ie, travel during daylight). (3) Do not use the electric starter (push start only), horn, or turn signals (use hand signals---left arm straight out for left turn; left arm out and up for right turn). I would also disconnect the front brake light switch (use the rear brake for brake light if there's someone behind you) and all running and instrument lights. The only electric power you want is the ignition circuit and one brake switch. (Keep the horn available for emergencies.) This should give you several hours of riding time even with a dead charging system. Note: if the charging system works this will overcharge your battery and/or damage the charging system. As backup, you can take an extra (charged) battery (bike or car, and enough wire run to the regular battery connections). Sealed battery is best. May also take a battery charger to plug in at any electric outlet, and/or a solar battery charger (I haven't done the calculations as to whether this is practical). Good luck. --garcia "We're lost, but we're making good time." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 13:40:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71HeEZ4004186; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:40:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71HeC4c004170; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:40:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <132.11b47491.2a7acc76@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:40:06 EDT Subject: Perforated Excrement Batman!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 I was just quoted a price of over $63.00 for a bike inspection here in MD. Is that even close to normal? Holy Shit Batman! I mean if it is I will have to pay it somewhere, but if I am going to be F%#&ed that badly it is going to have to be someone I like, not the horses ass I talked to at Atlantic. Me: $63.00? For an inspection? I do not think I have ever paid more then $8.00 for one. (In retrospect I think I have paid $15.00 or so. Oh well.) Horses: "Where have you paid less?" (Belligerent attitude) Me: Um Tennessee, North Carolina, Virginia... Oh yea Nevada. Horses: "Oh" (I forgot to mention Florida and that I was a licensed inspector in NC. But that was enough to shut him up. I also forgot to mention that I paid $0.00 for my first inspection in VA because the guy did not feel like filling out the paperwork.) Me: What do you do for $63? Horses "We inspect your bike" (Duh!) Me: Uh yea, but what exactly do you do that makes it worth $63? Horses: "Everything on that poster" I went to look, (probably surprised him no end. Unless he plans to check my doors and windshield wipers I do not think they are going to do "everything on the poster." I think he knew he had lost me when I laughed out loud. I left. I hate bullshit. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 13:55:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71HthZ4004530; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:55:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71HthTD004525; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:55:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:58:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" Reply-To: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: OT Trains, was Re: Re: Re: Times OP ED piece In-Reply-To: <007b01c23978$3a135740$bb82fea9@palladio1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Paul Wilson wrote: > Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:25:22 -0400 > From: Paul Wilson > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, sdave@XXXXXX > Subject: OT Trains, was Re: Re: Re: Times OP ED piece > > evidence points to shoddy track maintenance as the culprit. If trains had > to stop short of any obstruction they could never move more than about 10-15 > mph. Or they'd need some technology that allowed them to see or sense farther ahead. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 14:02:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71I2vZ4004741; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:02:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71I2vlO004736; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:02:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020801180254.57754.qmail@web14005.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:02:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: FZR400 for sale (from Ninja 250 discussion list) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don't know anything about this bike other than what was posted. Leon. FZR 400 for sale - real lightweight sportbike Thu Aug 1 14:02:22 2002 I used to have a 250 ninja upgraded to this 400 and now I am upgrading again. Details- 1990 fzr 400 (only imported in US 1988 1989 1990 - very rare bike - especially since it has never been raced) 19k miles aluminum frame and swingarm hindle full exhaust hindle stage one jet kit - also have the stage 3 that i will include new dunlop tires / new brakes 520 chain conversion and new sprokects (will also throw in a bunch of extra/stock parts) as for looks: (the bike looks new) bright yellow paint carbon fiber graphics kit carbon flushmount front signals carbon shortstack signals in the back R1 taillight speed screen superbike grips tank pad and probably some other crap I cannot remember. I want $2,800 for it. I live in the DC metro area - email me for pics, thanks. Ljrod@XXXXXX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 14:14:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71IE7Z4004988; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:14:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71IE7Pe004981; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:14:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.20020801141439.0137a434@noid.org> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 14:15:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: Perforated Excrement Batman!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:40 PM 8/1/02 EDT, you wrote: [...] >Me: What do you do for $63? > >Horses "We inspect your bike" (Duh!) > >Me: Uh yea, but what exactly do you do that makes it worth $63? > >Horses: "Everything on that poster" > >I went to look, (probably surprised him no end. Unless he plans to check my >doors and windshield wipers I do not think they are going to do "everything >on the poster." I think he knew he had lost me when I laughed out loud. > >I left. >I hate bullshit. I think it was $25 at JT in Frederick. They inspected my bike while I waited. I think Frederick Harley is even cheaper/faster. Friend of mine just took his Intruder over there for an inspection. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 14:26:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71IQ6Z4005228; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:26:06 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71IQ6kt005223; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:26:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D497E8A.F6D7E813@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 14:31:38 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dan CC: sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Times OP ED piece References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dan wrote: > > I think the Motor Co. should pay up for MSF classes. Its not like they > dont make a ton of profit per bike, it would keep their rider/buyer base > more in tact. Honda does. And so does The Motor Company, unless policy changed. Thru H.O.G. membership one can get a rebate on an MSF class and methinks that applys to basic and exp courses. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 14:27:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71IRXZ4005402; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:27:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71IRXVA005395; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:27:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 1 Aug 2002 18:27:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20020801182731.8921.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Perforated Excrement Batman!! X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) Coddlin' Cooters, Fudgeman ! Subject: Perforated Excrement Batman!! >I was just quoted a price of over $63.00 for a bike inspection here in MD. >Is that even close to normal? Holy Shit Batman! [Dave] No. they're supposed to be the same price whereever you go in the (no so) free state... I'll bet you went to Atlantic (or what used to be them) in Bendover, MD... right ? >I mean if it is I will have to pay it somewhere, but if I am going to be >F%#&ed that badly it is going to have to be someone I like, not the horses >ass I talked to at Atlantic. [Dave] Yup. I knew it. They flunked my bike because - not enough air in the front tire. HA from Atlantic: It failed. Me: why? HA: not enough air in the front tire. Me: (in best impersonation of my former Drill Sergeant) "WTF are you talking about !? GTF back there and put some G*D D@mn air in the M*ther F... tires" (that was a lot of profanity, in retrospect)... He did. Then I passed, and subsequently, I left. >Me: $63.00? For an inspection? ... : Uh yea, but what exactly do you do that makes it worth $63? >Horses: "Everything on that poster" >I went to look, (probably surprised him no end. Unless he plans to check my >doors and windshield wipers I do not think they are going to do "everything >on the poster." I think he knew he had lost me when I laughed out loud. >I left. >I hate bullshit. [Dave] Unfortunately, in MD, not every inspection station is qualified for motorcycles... There aren't too many down your way. What about Clinton Cycles in Oxon Hill? Right by the Har(d)ley dealer, behind Giant at Livingston Square ... I think the last inspectin I got in MD was $37.00... but it was a while back... It's only once, and shops usually try to soak you for replacement parts or work. Cages typically fail for wiper blades, and headlight aim. In MD, if you fail, they can only legally inspect the failing part in subsequent attempts at reinspection and you can get the work done anywhere, but if you go to another place for inspection, they inspect everything all over again. Good luck. Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 14:34:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71IYOZ4005636; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:34:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71IYKHn005617; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:34:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 14:34:10 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Perforated Excrement Batman!! Message-ID: <7DCB882B.2B6B0639.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ummmmmm......I seriously doubt it. Most I've ever padi at a VA gas/inspection station has been between $10 & $15. Maryland can't be that much different. I've never even paid that much for my car. I think he was just playing you for a sucker. Scooter In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:40:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, PenguinBiker writes: > > > I was just quoted a price of over $63.00 for a bike inspection here in MD. > Is that even close to normal? Holy Shit Batman! > I mean if it is I will have to pay it somewhere, but if I am going to be > F%#&ed that badly it is going to have to be someone I like, not the horses > ass I talked to at Atlantic. > > Me: $63.00? For an inspection? I do not think I have ever paid more then > $8.00 for one. (In retrospect I think I have paid $15.00 or so. Oh well.) > > Horses: "Where have you paid less?" (Belligerent attitude) > > Me: Um Tennessee, North Carolina, Virginia... Oh yea Nevada. > > Horses: "Oh" > > (I forgot to mention Florida and that I was a licensed inspector in NC. But > that was enough to shut him up. I also forgot to mention that I paid $0.00 > for my first inspection in VA because the guy did not feel like filling out > the paperwork.) > > Me: What do you do for $63? > > Horses "We inspect your bike" (Duh!) > > Me: Uh yea, but what exactly do you do that makes it worth $63? > > Horses: "Everything on that poster" > > I went to look, (probably surprised him no end. Unless he plans to check my > doors and windshield wipers I do not think they are going to do "everything > on the poster." I think he knew he had lost me when I > laughed out loud. > > I left. > I hate bullshit. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 14:48:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71ImkZ4005858; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:48:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71ImgsJ005839; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:48:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4983DA.EF7FB0E4@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 14:54:18 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX CC: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Perforated Excrement Batman!! References: <7DCB882B.2B6B0639.0C9D3659@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > Ummmmmm......I seriously doubt it. Most I've ever padi at a VA gas/inspection station has been between $10 & $15. Maryland can't be that much different. I've never even paid that much for my car. I think he was just playing you for a sucker. > > Scooter Wrong answer -- Maryland BLOWS! Car inspections can run hundreds of dollars, but you only have tot do it when you buy or transfer a new to MD vehicle into MD. I reckon over a ten year period, assuming one keeps rides that long, you'd pay more for annual VA inpections. Hmm... come to think of it, my last VA m/c inspection was $5. It was a "Nice Bike" inspection, what the inspector said when he handed me to the sticker to apply wherever in hell I wanted too. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 15:33:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71JXKZ4006257; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:33:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71JXKKj006253; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:33:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Scott, Wellesley E." To: "'ScooterFZR@XXXXXX'" , PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Perforated Excrement Batman!! Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:30:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I paid $5 in VA this year. Damn, I'm glad I don't live in Silver Spring anymore. -----Original Message----- From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX [mailto:ScooterFZR@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:34 PM To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Perforated Excrement Batman!! Ummmmmm......I seriously doubt it. Most I've ever padi at a VA gas/inspection station has been between $10 & $15. Maryland can't be that much different. I've never even paid that much for my car. I think he was just playing you for a sucker. Scooter In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:40:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, PenguinBiker writes: > > > I was just quoted a price of over $63.00 for a bike inspection here in MD. > Is that even close to normal? Holy Shit Batman! > I mean if it is I will have to pay it somewhere, but if I am going to be > F%#&ed that badly it is going to have to be someone I like, not the horses > ass I talked to at Atlantic. > > Me: $63.00? For an inspection? I do not think I have ever paid more then > $8.00 for one. (In retrospect I think I have paid $15.00 or so. Oh well.) > > Horses: "Where have you paid less?" (Belligerent attitude) > > Me: Um Tennessee, North Carolina, Virginia... Oh yea Nevada. > > Horses: "Oh" > > (I forgot to mention Florida and that I was a licensed inspector in NC. But > that was enough to shut him up. I also forgot to mention that I paid $0.00 > for my first inspection in VA because the guy did not feel like filling out > the paperwork.) > > Me: What do you do for $63? > > Horses "We inspect your bike" (Duh!) > > Me: Uh yea, but what exactly do you do that makes it worth $63? > > Horses: "Everything on that poster" > > I went to look, (probably surprised him no end. Unless he plans to check my > doors and windshield wipers I do not think they are going to do "everything > on the poster." I think he knew he had lost me when I > laughed out loud. > > I left. > I hate bullshit. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 15:42:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71Jg5Z4006497; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:42:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71Jg4EL006490; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:42:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [158.114.92.201] From: "Randy Moran" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Re: Times OP ED piece Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 15:40:57 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 19:40:57.0801 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B81E390:01C23993]

Jon Strang wrote:


>NO! There is NO SUCH THING AS THE COMPANY PAYING FOR IT!!!!

>jeebus, why do people say such things? The money doesn't come from "the
>company". It comes from the price I/you/we PAY for the bike(s). It's not
>semantics. It's that the price will rise exactly the amount that it costs
>to fund the MSF classes.
>
>You can't tax a for-profit company, you can't levy a judgment (e.g. Philip
>Morris) on a for-profit company, you can't make THEM pay for something. The
>CUSTOMER(s) always pays.
>
>The tobacco suits basically just enacted a new tax on smokers (mostly poor
>people) and sent the money to the legal teams assorted government(s)
>agencies. A hugely regressive tax supported by (mainly) Democrats who are

>supposed to be against these things.

 

Well, all this sounds about right, however in the case of what Dan was saying I think the "Motor Company paying for it" would be a bit of closed loop for most of us. It would mean more expensive Hardlys, but those of us who ride other makes wouldn't be affected at all.

RPM


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From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 16:07:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71K7BZ4006822; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:07:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71K79nN006803; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:07:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.20020801160738.01378914@noid.org> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 16:08:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: RE: Perforated Excrement Batman!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:30 PM 8/1/02 -0400, you wrote: >I paid $5 in VA this year. Damn, I'm glad I don't live in Silver Spring >anymore. Not saying one is better than the other, but don't you have to get an inspection each year in VA? In MD, it's a one time deal. Once you're inspected, you can let your pile rot away and continue to drive it around. :-\ -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 16:30:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71KURZ4007117; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:30:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71KUQXv007110; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:30:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 1 Aug 2002 20:30:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20020801203025.32572.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Perforated Excrement Batman!! X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) Wayne Wonders: >Not saying one is better than the other, but don't you have to get an >inspection each year in VA? In MD, it's a one time deal. Once you're >inspected, you can let your pile rot away and continue to drive it around. [Dave] It depends. Both systems are breeding grounds for 'unneeded' repairs... I don't like having to inspect every year, but I dreaded MD inspections far more. You can take a new car to a MD inspection station and at least 40% will fail it for - windshield wipers & headlight alignment... The last 4 cars I got inspected in MD, I already did it in anticipation. The 1st one failed, so I promptly produced receipts for said repairs, and got my certificate, the next was wipers only, which I had, and the last 2 went ok... Used cars are notoriously difficult to get clean inspection bills on in MD, because they're so subjective. 1 time, I got a 'kitchen sink' list of stuff to fix. Knowing the guy was being an ass, I went elsewhere, and failed for - wiper blades, yet again... but that was it. Bussler's in St. Mary's was the worst. Many moons ago, I was rehabing a truck in St. Mary's. I failed for 'exhaust hangars'... The factory hangars sat in rubber mounts, the inspector insisted on solid mounts. I tightened them as best as could be done, & produced the factory part receipts and that was insufficient. At that point, he demonstrated by yanking on the exhaust, then hanging on it in order to display how 'bad' it was. When that failed to work, he pulled the pipe between the muffler & manifold off with a mondo pipe wrench. Having just completed that repair myself, a fight ensued. The cops were called. 2 hours of statements, the like, all for nothing - no charges filed. I talked to the owner and said I would be back by C.O.B, and there would be a valid inspection on the car (I did not ask). The owner gave me a pass when I returned. The knock on VA is that you have to take the time out to sit in line, almost like *ACK!* DC :-( It's a PITA if you've got several vehicles... Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 16:32:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71KWaZ4007290; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:32:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71KWaYH007284; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:32:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Scott, Wellesley E." To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Perforated Excrement Batman!! Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:28:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" It really depends on how long you own your bike(s). I've had some for a few months and others for 4 years. I just turned 26 today, so I can only judge on my limited experience living in this area since '98. I didn't have to worry about Inspection in the other countries/states where I lived. Thus far it seems cheaper to inspect in VA than in MD. The inspection may be cheap in VA, but the state does recoup lost revenue by making you purchase those stupid locality decals. W.E.Scott III Cage-Free Since '76 -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Edelen [mailto:wayne@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:08 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Perforated Excrement Batman!! At 03:30 PM 8/1/02 -0400, you wrote: >I paid $5 in VA this year. Damn, I'm glad I don't live in Silver Spring >anymore. Not saying one is better than the other, but don't you have to get an inspection each year in VA? In MD, it's a one time deal. Once you're inspected, you can let your pile rot away and continue to drive it around. :-\ -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 16:56:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71KuPZ4007604; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:56:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71KuPLd007600; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:56:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2.4011 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 16:56:21 -0400 Subject: Dealers for Suzuki Service? From: Rob Curtis To: DC-CYCLES Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Gotta have the first service done on my SV soon... I called a bunch of dealers to get service prices and found a wide range of prices, from $135 in Winchester to $250 in Herndon. I figure I'll pay what it takes to make sure they do the work, so if anyone can recommend a good wrench to do the first service, I'd appreciate it. Free State Cycle in Captiol Heights, Md is middle of the road, $150 and reasonably close, so unless someone has a horror story about them I'll probably take it there... Thanks! Rob 01SV650S -- Rob Curtis Senior Photographer Army Times Publishing Co. Springfield, VA http://www.robcurtis.com __________________ "To be persuasive, we must be believable. To be believable, we must be credible. To be credible, we must be truthful." Edward R. Murrow From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 17:04:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71L4TZ4007867; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:04:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71L4TlC007859; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:04:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "dccycles" Subject: helmets wanted.. Rashed.. Slightly damaged for painting Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:04:22 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 21:03:27.0050 (UTC) FILETIME=[E17D5AA0:01C2399E] Im experimenting painting pics on helmets. But i need more experience and i dont have enough helmets. Anyone have old helmets, rashed helmets, light damaged helmets they do not want? Email me at ricardo@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 17:08:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71L8fZ4008157; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:08:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71L8eTi008149; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:08:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: Re: Dealers for Suzuki Service? Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:06:00 -0500 Message-ID: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A6419623EBD285@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Dealers for Suzuki Service? Thread-Index: AcI5n4sPQrXE+ESQSuCt5QJcmKPQpA== From: To: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g71L8dZ4008137 First Service..on a SV ? Its just a freakin oil change... The shop manual also says to check the torque on critical bolts.(is a dealer is gonna do that?) Buy a filter, oil, a torque wrench...even a shop manual...save $$ George >>> Rob Curtis 08/01/02 04:56PM >>> Gotta have the first service done on my SV soon... I called a bunch of dealers to get service prices and found a wide range of prices, from $135 in Winchester to $250 in Herndon. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 17:15:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71LFZZ4008371; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:15:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71LFZ7f008367; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:15:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020801211532.6735.qmail@web14004.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:15:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: helmets wanted.. Rashed.. Slightly damaged for painting To: Ricardo Pontes , dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ok, I'll let you paint the one I wear everyday. Suggestions from the group as to what the picture should be??? To get the group into the right spirit, here are the guidelines I can think of. Farm animals are ok, but graphic sex isn't. Solid colors are ok, I don't care for pastels. I have no taste, so if it comes out badly, I won't notice. Leon. --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > > Im experimenting painting pics on helmets. But i > need more experience and i > dont have enough helmets. Anyone have old helmets, > rashed helmets, light > damaged helmets they do not want? > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 17:21:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71LL9Z4008586; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:21:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71LL9rD008581; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:21:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Scott R. Russell" To: "Ricardo Pontes" , "dccycles" Subject: RE: helmets wanted.. Rashed.. Slightly damaged for painting Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:20:45 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020801211532.6735.qmail@web14004.mail.yahoo.com> Okay, I have an old one that I would like also, if you can do the patriotic thing that would be great. My bike is blue, so the red, white and blue thing would work. Scott Russell 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S -----Original Message----- From: Leon Begeman [mailto:mriderleon@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:16 PM To: Ricardo Pontes; dccycles Subject: Re: helmets wanted.. Rashed.. Slightly damaged for painting Ok, I'll let you paint the one I wear everyday. Suggestions from the group as to what the picture should be??? To get the group into the right spirit, here are the guidelines I can think of. Farm animals are ok, but graphic sex isn't. Solid colors are ok, I don't care for pastels. I have no taste, so if it comes out badly, I won't notice. Leon. --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > > Im experimenting painting pics on helmets. But i > need more experience and i > dont have enough helmets. Anyone have old helmets, > rashed helmets, light > damaged helmets they do not want? > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 17:22:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71LMZZ4008779; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:22:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71LMYqP008774; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:22:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [151.196.168.237] From: "Jay Block" To: md.abate@XXXXXX, AHauffman@XXXXXX, AIMLawyers@XXXXXX, Gypsylthr@XXXXXX, bettyhdstore@XXXXXX, bikerdan@XXXXXX, bob@XXXXXX, bussep@XXXXXX, cacollin@XXXXXX, cmpurrin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, djake@XXXXXX, Hogadams@XXXXXX, imwolfie69@XXXXXX, jayblockllc@XXXXXX, Jumpstart301@XXXXXX, manck@XXXXXX, MGVLAHOS@XXXXXX, michellecr@XXXXXX, m-riders@XXXXXX, philip.l.kraft@XXXXXX, pjnlinda@XXXXXX, prez95ocmd@XXXXXX, ci37290@XXXXXX, wglass@XXXXXX, rdix@XXXXXX, rebel_rider69@XXXXXX, scootertramp@XXXXXX, squid126@XXXXXX, suljustdad@XXXXXX, wisennock@XXXXXX, wmcrum@XXXXXX Subject: Fwd: Fw: Check out Recall Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 17:21:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2002 21:21:24.0570 (UTC) FILETIME=[63BDDBA0:01C239A1] Subject: Fw: Check out Recall Click here: Recall Any one who has one of the NexL helmets should check the date on the label inside. There is a recall on some of them for 2 safety issues. This link will give you the info needed to check to see if your lid is included. They will send you free UPS shipping labels and you should have the helmet back in 2 to 3 weeks. Ride Safe & Have Fun, _________________________________________________________________ Join the world)B’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 17:40:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71LeoZ4009077; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:40:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71LeoPU009072; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:40:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666B971@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'Jennthebiker@XXXXXX'" Subject: The Dragon and other roads Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:45:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain The Dragon: --- dan wrote: "Half the fun is going up and down moutains for me. It adds a nice level of complexity, especially those down hill decreasing radius turns!" Then get thee to SE Ohio and ride everything with a 55 or 78 in the road number. There're lotsa ridge roads where you crest a hill and then either go right, left, or =8^O. One of the better known is 555 but 550 has some fun parts as does 78. & tom g touted, "the dragon is good. but it is 500+ miles away.... you should take a 3-4+ day weekend to enjoy the area." Ay it's not just the Dragon but the many good roads coming off the BRP. Lots of up, up, ups and down, down, down 'n arounds. Check out 276 from the BRP to Cruso, NC for instance. IIRC it's NC 415 or 215 in that area that is "ahem" thrilling. Or the roads south of "Little Switzerland". Taking the "boulder detour" a couple of years ago, a fellow from Maine remarked, "I think I saw the back of my helmet twice." It's worth a very long week end or better a week. >From Deals gap take Cherohala Skyway to Tellico Plains, then TN 68 to GA 60 to Suches. (Sample Wolf Pen Gap Road.) Grab a tent spot at T.W.O and take a sunset ride down Ga 60 -19 to Dahlonega. California also has some great twisty roads, especially up in the "Gold Country" but Nawth Caro-lina and West By God Virginny are much closer. Local fun cruising roads: Grab a MD map (free) or an ADC or Delorme ($10 at Sams) Closer to Westminster, MD, the roads between Rt 15 and the Monocacy are some fun easy roads. Try to find LeGore Bridge road. Find the three covered bridges. Is the creamery is still on Mumma Ford road? Go up 77 through Catoctin Park Come back down and run past Camp Dxxxd (shhhh) Go past Fort Ritchie and find PenMar overlook. Run south on Rt 17 Stop in Middletown for Ice cream. To Burkittsville (No "California stops" at the stop sign) turn right and climb to Gapland. Then cross over to Antietam, up 67 cross over at Reno Monument, Find Mt. Tabor road Detour to Washington Monument or go on to Myersville and . . . Nice roads to work on "smooth" and "ride your own ride". Find folks who'll wait for you at the next intersection. Carl in Bethesda Commuting into your nation's capital since 1981 through sun, rain, over snow, and around road ragers. '85 VF700S (Rocin-ahorito); '83 VF700F (666); '97 Aerostich Roadcrafter (Fred the Red); '02 JR Phoenix: (Amarillo Joe) Don't need no loud pipes; I got big honking tooters: http://members.tripod.com/~v65_magna/sos_99/sat_lunch2.jpg http://www.crashmancomics.com/sabmag/rogues/carlcuster.jpg From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 17:56:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71LujZ4009486; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:56:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71LujDe009481; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:56:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020801215642.51634.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:56:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Perforated Excrement Batman!! To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <132.11b47491.2a7acc76@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i think it's about a 1/2 hour labor (by the book). unless your shop has a $126.00/hr labor rate, they were trying to do you without a courtesy lube. take it to rick hart, iii at the potomac village amoco. if you do, please tell him i recommended him.... --- PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > I was just quoted a price of over $63.00 for a bike > inspection here in MD. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 18:08:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71M8VZ4009761; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:08:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71M8UEQ009754; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:08:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020801220828.33040.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:08:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Perforated Excrement Batman!! To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <7DCB882B.2B6B0639.0C9D3659@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > Ummmmmm......I seriously doubt it. Most I've ever padi > at a VA gas/inspection station has been between $10 & > $15. Maryland can't be that much different. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WRONG! va. has a YEARLY inspection. md. has a ONE TIME inspection. we'll touch on the other differences between md. and va. over the coming weeks. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 18:24:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71MOkZ4010082; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:24:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71MOjnE010074; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:24:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <1b9.4264382.2a7b0f25@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:24:37 EDT Subject: Re: cute? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 i sense a bit of tension from my good friend jon? > I can just hear the blonde (sorry, Patti) "huh-Huh!" smiley-giggle thing > going on after that statement. > Complete with head cock, hair flip, eye twinkle, and vacant grin. *flips her hairs* im not blonde! :) > > > and maybe even tom and chuck? > > No, not even in the slightest. And Tom is fictitious. He's really one of > Chuck's pseudonyms. We know Chuck is real, cuz we see him on da TV alla > time. what in the world is chuck doing on tv?? > Speaking of pseudonyms, are you sure you're not Bill Huson (or someone else) > E. Anking our chains? im a real person..i promise you.... if you'd ever offer to riding youd find out! :) > > ..... but maybe you're right... 'hot' describes both my bike and myself > way > > better! (cute just sounds less conceded you know?!) > > Conceded? I'm confused. Oh, conceited. As in "I thought I was cute and a > real hottie, but someone told me I was just conceited." Got it. okok.. im originally from western pa.. they forgot to teach us things like spelling (and capitalization and punctuation!) > --jon > I need more coffee. I feel grumpy. > sure hope he got some! jenn :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 18:33:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71MXMZ4010305; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:33:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71MXLQD010299; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:33:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:32:20 -0400 From: STmaven@XXXXXX To: jmstrang@XXXXXX|, jmstrang@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Weekend ride (was im new!) Message-ID: <5FB6C060.77ED92CA.001912B6@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit heh funny stuff... i'm game for a group ride but we have to stop off and get some eats. jenn has to lead the ride tho... :) In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:54:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmstrang@XXXXXX writes: > > > > It's not you, it's Jenn. > > All of us lonely loser computer geeks have nothing better to do than > fantasize about Jenn (since we'd never actually have the courage to > *talk* to a live one... in person) and chat on several > lists are hoping that she'll be swept off of her feet by our sleek m/c's and > our finely honed riding skills. > > For me, I'm just hoping that the acne subsides before I go completely bald. > > --jon, 35yo virgin with a great list of bookmarks and a strong grip > > -----Wayne Edelen wrote: > > Thanks for all of the > > private e-mails expressing interest in riding with me, > really, I'm > > flattered From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 18:35:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71MZ8Z4010501; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:35:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71MZ8CV010496; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:35:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <1a2.639dcae.2a7b1193@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:34:59 EDT Subject: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 now i'm the one who's flattered! since all of you seem to be pretty friendly with one another ... you'll have to fill me in on who is who and where you're from! ill start -- hello. im jenn. and im a biker. :) i know you've all be wondering (maybe even patti -- the brunette!) ... im 25...and i live in owings mills. >It's not you, it's Jenn. >All of us lonely loser computer geeks have nothing better to do than f>antasize about Jenn (since we'd never actually have the courage to >*talk* to a live one... in person) and chat on several >lists are hoping that she'll be swept off of her feet by our sleek m/c's and >our finely honed riding skills. >For me, I'm just hoping that the acne subsides before I go completely bald. >--jon, 35yo virgin with a great list of bookmarks and a strong grip From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 18:59:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71MxcZ4010863; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:59:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71Mxc7Q010859; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:59:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <41.21136f14.2a7b1750@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 18:59:28 EDT Subject: Re: Dealers for Suzuki Service? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/1/2002 5:08:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, George.Cole@XXXXXX writes: > check the > torque > on critical bolts.(is a dealer is gonna do that?) Not just no but HELL NO! > > Buy a filter, oil, a torque wrench...even a shop manual...save $$ Listen to the man! Do as much as you can safely do yourself. Save money, and know it is done right. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 19:07:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71N7rZ4011393; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:07:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71N7rKg011386; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:07:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <19d.6429359.2a7b1942@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:07:46 EDT Subject: Re: Perforated Excrement Batman!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/1/2002 5:57:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, t_gimer@XXXXXX writes: > i think it's about a 1/2 hour labor (by the book). On a bad day! Like I said I was an inspector in NC for a few years. That is why I wanted to know what the hell they did that was worth $63. Answer, NOTHING! Basically the same thing we did in 15min. or so. I think their labor rate was $42hr. or so meaning they wanted 1 1/2 hrs. to see if the brakes work (both #:-) Thanks for all of the responses. Now if I can find one of these places.... (I can) John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 19:11:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71NBRZ4011577; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:11:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71NBQhn011572; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:11:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Dave Yates" To: Subject: RE: cute? Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:06:52 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c239b0$20c4f040$1e82c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <1b9.4264382.2a7b0f25@aol.com> Importance: Normal JTB confessed - ... okok.. im originally from western pa.. they forgot to teach us things like spelling (and capitalization and punctuation!) [Dave] It's a big Commonwealth, where more specifically? > --jon > I need more coffee. I feel grumpy. > sure hope he got some! [Dave] Uhh... You DO mean coffee... Right? This *IS* a family list... Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' LTT customized M96G EII 'Little Friend' http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 19:40:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71NeNZ4011947; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:40:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71NeLqO011935; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:40:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D49C82E.6210CF8B@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 19:45:50 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Scott, Wellesley E." CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Perforated Excrement Batman!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Scott, Wellesley E." wrote: > It really depends on how long you own your bike(s). I've had some for a few > months and others for 4 years. I just turned 26 today, so I can only judge > on my limited experience living in this area since '98. I didn't have to > worry about Inspection in the other countries/states where I lived. > > Thus far it seems cheaper to inspect in VA than in MD. The inspection may > be cheap in VA, but the state does recoup lost revenue by making you > purchase those stupid locality decals. > > W.E.Scott III > Cage-Free Since '76 Nope, the locality decals are a county deal, proof that you've paid your county pp tax. The Commonwealth of VA gets zip on those, and I doubt they get much off inspection either. Mechanics don't work for free, and the actual sticker is $1. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 19:57:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71NvbZ4012190; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:57:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71NvbWh012185; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:57:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 19:58:03 -0400 From: STmaven@XXXXXX To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) Message-ID: <245B5C45.52A62482.001912B6@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit LOL... ok we everyone to participate... A/S/L something like that. A=age S=sex L=location J/K... hehe In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 5:34:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jennthebiker writes: > > > now i'm the one who's flattered! since all of you seem to be pretty > friendly with one another ... you'll have to fill me in on who is who and > where you're from! > > ill start -- hello. im jenn. and im a biker. :) i know you've all be > wondering (maybe even patti -- the brunette!) ... im 25...and i live in > owings mills. > > >It's not you, it's Jenn. > > >All of us lonely loser computer geeks have nothing better to do than > f>antasize about Jenn (since we'd never actually have the courage to > >*talk* to a live one... in person) and chat on several > >lists are hoping that she'll be swept off of her feet by our sleek m/c's and > >our finely honed riding skills. > > >For me, I'm just hoping that the acne subsides before I go completely bald. > > >--jon, 35yo virgin with a great list of bookmarks and a > strong grip From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 20:12:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g720CQZ4012449; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:12:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g720CQTY012442; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:12:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D49CFBA.F6D0C429@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 20:18:02 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: STmaven@XXXXXX CC: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) References: <245B5C45.52A62482.001912B6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit STmaven@XXXXXX wrote: > LOL... ok we everyone to participate... > > A/S/L something like that. Okay, I'll go... > A=age * older than dirt > S=sex * yes > L=location * usually in bed, but I'm not picky "Got it inna kitchen, got it inna hall, got it on mah finger an' I wiped it onna wall! Yeah, hot nuts, hot nuts, get it anywhere ya can!" (Apologies to Doug Clark and the Hot Nuts, circa early 1960s) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 20:38:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g720cKZ4012899; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:38:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g720cJbZ012891; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:38:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.1.20020801203557.00ac44a8@k-kdom.nishanet.com> X-Sender: brownlee_b@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 20:40:48 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bruce Brownlee Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 08/01/02 In-Reply-To: <200208012300.g71N02IQ010899@dirty.meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Leon said: >Farm animals are ok, but graphic sex isn't. leon, shouldnt that be "farm impliments"? how bout a nice shiney 90 series? or a photo of chad little? never could remember what the fascination with the 97 was..... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 21:01:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7211oZ4013291; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:01:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7211nfs013279; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:01:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.54.231.123] From: "Jay Block" To: md.abate@XXXXXX, AIMLawyers@XXXXXX, Gypsylthr@XXXXXX, bettyboopbear@XXXXXX, bettyhdstore@XXXXXX, bikerdan@XXXXXX, bob@XXXXXX, bussep@XXXXXX, cacollin@XXXXXX, cmpurrin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, djake@XXXXXX, Jumpstart301@XXXXXX, LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX, MGVLAHOS@XXXXXX, michellecr@XXXXXX, m-riders@XXXXXX, philip.l.kraft@XXXXXX, pjnlinda@XXXXXX, prez95ocmd@XXXXXX, ci37290@XXXXXX, wglass@XXXXXX, rdix@XXXXXX, rebel_rider69@XXXXXX, scootertramp@XXXXXX, suljustdad@XXXXXX, toni2000r@XXXXXX, wisennock@XXXXXX, wmcrum@XXXXXX Cc: jayblockllc@XXXXXX Subject: The link to a helmet recall site Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 21:01:40 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 01:01:41.0968 (UTC) FILETIME=[29ECBD00:01C239C0] http://64.4.14.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=730cb49c2cf8de9eea9a902ca9de4c33&lat=1028249783&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fnexlsports%2ecom%2frecall%2ehtml Don't ask me how, just copy and paste it. Jay _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 21:22:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g721MwZ4013644; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:22:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g721Mwl8013639; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:22:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Patti Rodgers" To: "'Leon Begeman'" , "Dc-Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: helmets wanted.. Rashed.. Slightly damaged for painting Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:29:06 -0500 Message-ID: <000101c239cc$60f86b80$66bc82ac@ticostat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020801211532.6735.qmail@web14004.mail.yahoo.com> X-Apparently-From: Rodgersmp@XXXXXX >>Ok, I'll let you paint the one I wear everyday. >>Suggestions from the group as to what the picture >>should be??? A retro-style flame paint job is always nice. I have a friend who is a tattooist in Texas City, Texas (isn't there a country song that starts like that?!) that would insist on adding some eyeballs, too. He says eyeballs go with everything. Personally, though, I think flames would be just fine, eyeballs would be overkill. On a slightly similar, slightly different note: I know painting and/or adding stickers to a helmet usually voids the manufacturer's warranty. I pretty much always stick a sticker or two on a helmet, and fortunately I have never had to try and return one---no head-crashes! But has anyone had any experience with this? Just curious. Is there any truth to the manufacturer's statements that paint/adhesive seeps into the impact-absorbing layer and dissolves it? Or is this just the way they make you use their painters? I just spend a pile of money on 2 new helmets, one Bieffe, one Bell, both came with that disclaimer and I would really hate to drop one and not be able to get it fixed if needed. Cheers, Patti '95 Yamaha Virago '69 BSA FireBird <-- just got approved for DC Vanity plates: BEEZR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 21:23:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g721NZZ4013799; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:23:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g721NYTk013793; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:23:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "dccycles" Subject: RE: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:23:19 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <245B5C45.52A62482.001912B6@aol.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 01:22:32.0736 (UTC) FILETIME=[1370CA00:01C239C3] LOL... ok we everyone to participate... A/S/L something like that. A=age S=sex L=location J/K... hehe Ricardo 22 years old Burtonsville, MD 20866 2001 yamaha r1 1998 Kawasaki Klr650 Fav ride.. Day long rides. Ricardo www.pileofgarbage.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 21:29:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g721TFZ4014237; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:29:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g721TEfH014229; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:29:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.48.196.106] From: "Blake Stoddard" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: OT FS: 1978 Yamaha XS650 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 19:28:06 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 01:28:07.0311 (UTC) FILETIME=[DADCE1F0:01C239C3] For Sale: 1978 Yamaha XS650 Simply don)B’t have time for the bike anymore. Bought a few years back as a basket case (literally) and was built back up as a project. Engine runs strong, literally just needs a set of coils and ready to go. New battery this year, carbs cleaned and synched last month, timing set a few weeks ago, new advancer weight springs, new custom hand made wiring harness made for this bike (all soldered, as few connectors as possible-uses automotive coils). Great beginner bike for learning the roads on, taking those first spills, or even for the basis for a chopper project. Also included is an extra engine and various parts incase needed, but these bikes were built to last. Has title (from previous owner - never changed over). Bike Must Go before Aug 15. Asking Price $500 or make me an offer. This thing must go quick. Willing to transport in Northern VA area for $20. Blake Stoddard Dale City, VA (703) 878-2532 _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 21:32:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g721WkZ4014545; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:32:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g721Wj5l014540; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:32:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 21:32:21 -0400 From: scooterfzr@XXXXXX To: bhuson@XXXXXX, STmaven@XXXXXX Cc: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) Message-ID: <2449BECE.1BF92ED7.1056E6D9@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'll pay too. :-) A=age * just turned older than dirt (31) S=sex * nope. still a virgin. :-) L=location * somewhere in my mind. I think. ;-) Additional answers: N=name * Scott H=hair color * currently dark brown with blonde highlights (trying to look younger than I am ;-)) E=eye color * brown H=height * 6'2" - 6'3" W=weight * 205 (thank god for the Bowflex) B=bike * 2000 Yamaha YZF R6 (r/w/b) Y=years riding * 5 years C=crashes * 2 - over four years ago (newbie mistakes) L=actual location * downtown DC I like scifi & comedy movies, country & Irish music, attempting rollerblading, hanging out with friends, etc., etc., etc. hehe Scooter In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 7:18:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > > > STmaven@XXXXXX wrote: > > > LOL... ok we everyone to participate... > > > > A/S/L something like that. > > Okay, I'll go... > > > A=age * older than dirt > > S=sex * yes > > L=location * usually in bed, but I'm not picky > > "Got it inna kitchen, got it inna hall, got it on mah finger an' I wiped it onna wall! > Yeah, hot nuts, hot nuts, get it anywhere ya can!" > (Apologies to Doug Clark and the Hot > Nuts, circa early 1960s) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 21:37:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g721bbZ4014854; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:37:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g721barj014850; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:37:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 21:37:24 -0400 From: scooterfzr@XXXXXX To: scooterfzr@XXXXXX, bhuson@XXXXXX, STmaven@XXXXXX Cc: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) Message-ID: <117C1C50.5ACF57FA.1056E6D9@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit OK...before all you pervs out there comment, just a typo. :-) It should have read, "I'll PLAY too." Scooter In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 8:32:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, scooterfzr writes: > > > I'll pay too. :-) > > A=age * just turned older than dirt (31) > S=sex * nope. still a virgin. :-) > L=location * somewhere in my mind. I think. ;-) > > Additional answers: > > N=name * Scott > H=hair color * currently dark brown with blonde highlights (trying to look younger than I am ;-)) > E=eye color * brown > H=height * 6'2" - 6'3" > W=weight * 205 (thank god for the Bowflex) > B=bike * 2000 Yamaha YZF R6 (r/w/b) > Y=years riding * 5 years > C=crashes * 2 - over four years ago (newbie mistakes) > L=actual location * downtown DC > > I like scifi & comedy movies, country & Irish music, attempting rollerblading, hanging out with friends, etc., etc., etc. hehe > > Scooter > > In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 7:18:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > > > > > > > STmaven@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > > LOL... ok we everyone to participate... > > > > > > A/S/L something like that. > > > > Okay, I'll go... > > > > > A=age * older than dirt > > > S=sex * yes > > > L=location * usually in bed, but I'm not picky > > > > "Got it inna kitchen, got it inna hall, got it on mah > finger an' I wiped it onna wall! > > Yeah, hot nuts, hot nuts, get it anywhere ya can!" > > (Apologies to Doug Clark and the Hot > > Nuts, circa early 1960s) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 21:56:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g721uYZ4015367; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:56:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g721uYlT015359; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:56:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 21:56:21 -0400 Subject: Re: cute? From: Stephen Miller To: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1b9.4264382.2a7b0f25@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 8/1/02 6:24 PM, Jennthebiker@XXXXXX at Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: >> No, not even in the slightest. And Tom is fictitious. He's really one of >> Chuck's pseudonyms. We know Chuck is real, cuz we see him on da TV alla >> time. > > > what in the world is chuck doing on tv?? Chuck is a famous policy analyst at the Cato Institute!!!!!!!! Those wacky libertoids are always on TV! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 22:03:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7223eZ4015695; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:03:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7223dOP015688; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:03:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <02df01c239c7$c130c830$77292c42@D7XFG711> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "DC-CYCLES" References: <20020801220828.33040.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Perforated Excrement Batman!! Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 21:56:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 The fee for Va. inspections is capped by law. Inspection stations in Maryland seem to charge whatever the traffic will bear. In DC cages get it every two years, bike get annual inspections. It's tacked on to your registration fee. Paul in DC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Gimer" > --- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > > Ummmmmm......I seriously doubt it. Most I've ever padi > > at a VA gas/inspection station has been between $10 & > > $15. Maryland can't be that much different. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > WRONG! va. has a YEARLY inspection. md. has a ONE TIME > inspection. > > we'll touch on the other differences between md. and va. > over the coming weeks. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 22:08:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72284Z4016013; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:08:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72284Iu016008; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:08:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Dave Yates" To: "'Paul Wilson'" , "'DC-CYCLES'" Subject: RE: Perforated Excrement Batman!! Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:02:36 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c239c8$d99bbd20$2682c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <02df01c239c7$c130c830$77292c42@D7XFG711> Paul Pointed out - The fee for Va. inspections is capped by law. Inspection stations in Maryland seem to charge whatever the traffic will bear. [Dave] MD inspections are (supposed to be) capped as well. Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' LTT customized M96G EII 'Little Friend' http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 22:25:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g722PaZ4016386; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:25:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g722PZvi016381; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:25:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D49EEF0.E7697E3E@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:31:12 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mprodgers@XXXXXX CC: "'Leon Begeman'" , "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: Re: helmets wanted.. Rashed.. Slightly damaged for painting References: <000101c239cc$60f86b80$66bc82ac@ticostat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Patti Rodgers wrote: > On a slightly similar, slightly different note: I know painting and/or > adding stickers to a helmet usually voids the manufacturer's warranty. I > pretty much always stick a sticker or two on a helmet, and fortunately I > have never had to try and return one---no head-crashes! But has anyone had > any experience with this? Just curious. Is there any truth to the > manufacturer's statements that paint/adhesive seeps into the > impact-absorbing layer and dissolves it? Or is this just the way they make > you use their painters? I just spend a pile of money on 2 new helmets, one > Bieffe, one Bell, both came with that disclaimer and I would really hate to > drop one and not be able to get it fixed if needed. The shell of a polycarb helmet *could* be compromised by the solvents in *some* paints, but stickers? I'd have to the absolute proof on that. And your basic Snell helmet, and most DOT ones also, are FRP or FRE. Fiberglass Reenforced Polyester or Epoxy resin. Many also use Kevlar fibers, and even graphite fibers. The exterior of those shells is gelcoat. *Some* solvents may affect the gelcoat, but the gelcoat is cosmetic, not structural, and is used to provide base color and is a good base for painting. Very few paints will have any effect on the actual epoxy/polyester laminate. IMHO, the no-paint, no-sticker deal is pure BS. The main impact absorbing layer is the crushable foam inside the shell. A few drops of gasolene or practically any other petrolium product will melt that, so don't abuse the interior. Tis the same foam your electronic gear comes packed in, and the same foam many car manufacturers use for impact absorbing bumpers. Works, but is fragile and the one component that doesn't age well, the reason for limiting the lifespan of your lid. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 22:27:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g722RfZ4016685; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:27:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g722Re9H016677; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:27:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.20020801222812.045fa94c@noid.org> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:28:44 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: RE: thursday bike night at barnes and noble Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:38 AM 8/1/02 -0700, Lori Wilson wrote: >Rob/All >I'll be either at the Barnes and Noble or the Hooters tonight >Yellow VFR/Orange front fender It was great hooking up and hanging out with other listers tonight. I hope to be able to ride with you Iron Butts sometime in the future :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 22:28:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g722SCZ4016979; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:28:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g722SCrP016972; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:28:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D49EF8D.A1EDFBE7@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:33:49 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scooterfzr@XXXXXX CC: STmaven@XXXXXX, Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) References: <2449BECE.1BF92ED7.1056E6D9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sheesh, 31 is nowhere near older than dirt. My son is older than you are! scooterfzr@XXXXXX wrote: > I'll pay too. :-) > > A=age * just turned older than dirt (31) > S=sex * nope. still a virgin. :-) > L=location * somewhere in my mind. I think. ;-) > > Additional answers: > > N=name * Scott > H=hair color * currently dark brown with blonde highlights (trying to look younger than I am ;-)) > E=eye color * brown > H=height * 6'2" - 6'3" > W=weight * 205 (thank god for the Bowflex) > B=bike * 2000 Yamaha YZF R6 (r/w/b) > Y=years riding * 5 years > C=crashes * 2 - over four years ago (newbie mistakes) > L=actual location * downtown DC > > I like scifi & comedy movies, country & Irish music, attempting rollerblading, hanging out with friends, etc., etc., etc. hehe > > Scooter > > In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 7:18:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > > > > > > > STmaven@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > > LOL... ok we everyone to participate... > > > > > > A/S/L something like that. > > > > Okay, I'll go... > > > > > A=age * older than dirt > > > S=sex * yes > > > L=location * usually in bed, but I'm not picky > > > > "Got it inna kitchen, got it inna hall, got it on mah finger an' I wiped it onna wall! > > Yeah, hot nuts, hot nuts, get it anywhere ya can!" > > (Apologies to Doug Clark and the Hot > > Nuts, circa early 1960s) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 22:30:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g722U9Z4017287; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:30:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g722U99H017282; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:30:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D49F002.A6D403E2@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:35:46 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Yates CC: "'Paul Wilson'" , "'DC-CYCLES'" Subject: Re: Perforated Excrement Batman!! References: <000201c239c8$d99bbd20$2682c0cf@nih.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Yates wrote: > Paul Pointed out - > The fee for Va. inspections is capped by law. Inspection stations in > Maryland seem to charge whatever the traffic will bear. > > [Dave] MD inspections are (supposed to be) capped as well. [Bill] Yes, but the "cap" is the condom the inspector slips on before doing you. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 22:31:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g722VHZ4017584; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:31:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g722VHVU017578; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:31:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:31:09 EDT Subject: RE: cute? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 >JTB confessed - >... yay... i love it when people call me jtb :) although i must confess its not usually because people are calling me jennthebiker! my last name begins with a b. >okok.. im originally from western pa.. they forgot to teach us things >like >spelling (and capitalization and punctuation!) >[Dave] It's a big Commonwealth, where more specifically? anyone ever hear of a small town called indiana, pa? its about an hour and a half northest of pittsburgh. some people know of it because of the university -- indiana university of pennsylvania. some people know of it because its jimmy stewarts birthplace. other people know of it because its the christmas tree capital of the world. anyone know of it? and why in the world do you?? >> --jon >> I need more coffee. I feel grumpy. >> >sure hope he got some! >[Dave] Uhh... You DO mean coffee... Right? This *IS* a family >list... hey now! .... of course i meant coffee --- what else were you possibly thinking? *innocentlook* jtb :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 22:58:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g722wrZ4018016; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:58:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g722wrm3018009; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:58:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <14f.11cc906a.2a7b4f61@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:58:41 EDT Subject: Re: Dealers for Suzuki Service? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 Rob wrote: Gotta have the first service done on my SV soon... I called a bunch of dealers to get service prices and found a wide range of prices, from $135 in Winchester to $250 in Herndon. I figure I'll pay what it takes to make sure they do the work, so if anyone can recommend a good wrench to do the first service, I'd appreciate it. Free State Cycle in Captiol Heights, Md is middle of the road, $150 and reasonably close, so unless someone has a horror story about them I'll probably take it there... Jenn writes: i just had my first service done on my honda shadow. in the baltimore area, there was a 2-4 week wait and it was going to cost over 200$ plus parts for 2 hours of service. i called the dealer in pa that my stepdad deals with. it was 84$ plus parts for the same 2 hours of service. they took me in on my first available day to return to pa. if you're interested in a road trip to indiana, pa --- call tom's cycle 724-349-2211. they're a honda shop but i do believe they also are cerfified with suzuki. just a thought! jenn From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 23:06:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72363Z4018365; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:06:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72363Tl018357; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:06:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:08:44 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) In-Reply-To: <1a2.639dcae.2a7b1193@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Wow, in one week this list has gone from dc-cycles to the jenn fan list. Jenn, you may have set record for hijacking a list serve. Not that I mind, its entertaining. Dan On Thu, 1 Aug 2002 Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > now i'm the one who's flattered! since all of you seem to be pretty > friendly with one another ... you'll have to fill me in on who is who and > where you're from! > > ill start -- hello. im jenn. and im a biker. :) i know you've all be > wondering (maybe even patti -- the brunette!) ... im 25...and i live in > owings mills. > > >It's not you, it's Jenn. > > >All of us lonely loser computer geeks have nothing better to do than > f>antasize about Jenn (since we'd never actually have the courage to > >*talk* to a live one... in person) and chat on several > >lists are hoping that she'll be swept off of her feet by our sleek m/c's and > >our finely honed riding skills. > > >For me, I'm just hoping that the acne subsides before I go completely bald. > > >--jon, 35yo virgin with a great list of bookmarks and a strong grip > -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 23:06:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7236IZ4018530; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:06:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7236ICu018525; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:06:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Patti Rodgers" To: "Dc-Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: helmets wanted.. Rashed.. Slightly damaged for painting Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:12:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c239da$dfd69130$66bc82ac@ticostat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3D49EEF0.E7697E3E@patriot.net> X-Apparently-From: Rodgersmp@XXXXXX >> IMHO, the no-paint, no-sticker deal is pure BS. That's what I pretty much thought. I know the innards are somewhat similar to those styrofoam peanuts, and you can dissolve those with nail polish remover. Good for one hard thunk and that's it, but that's what it's supposed to do... but the shell? I had a hard time imagining how it is supposed to protect me from pavement but couldn't stand up to a little glue. I know that most manufacturers will inspect your helmet after a collision and deem it fit or unfit; if unfit, a lot of them offer you a discount on a new one. About 5 years ago, my brother, a shock-trauma doctor in Chicago, had a patient who was in a nasty motorcycle accident. Leathers shredded, and the helmet was really gone with the innards basically imploded. But the trauma team was really impressed that this guy didn't have any serious head injuries. (He did have neck injuries and several broken bones) The helmet did just what it was supposed to. The patient called Bell from the hospital and told them his story, in hopes he could just get a discount on a new helmet; not only did they replace the helmet free but they bought the broken helmet back for a tidy sum of money and ran a picture of it along with the guy's x-rays in an ad campaign in one of the biker magazines. cheers, Patti From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 23:29:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g723TIZ4019085; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:29:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g723TH4r019080; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:29:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "dccycles" Subject: RE: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:29:09 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 03:28:15.0923 (UTC) FILETIME=[A387C830:01C239D4] What if Jenn is really a man? Getting his kicks by pretending he is a little girl?? Ricardo Wow, in one week this list has gone from dc-cycles to the jenn fan list. Jenn, you may have set record for hijacking a list serve. Not that I mind, its entertaining. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 23:40:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g723eMZ4019545; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:40:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g723eLv3019536; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:40:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:43:00 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Ricardo Pontes cc: dccycles Subject: RE: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ricardo, you are so right. We need a picture.... of her nude (to make sure she isn't in drag) on the bike. Dan On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > > > What if Jenn is really a man? Getting his kicks by pretending he is a little > girl?? > > Ricardo > > > Wow, in one week this list has gone from dc-cycles to the jenn fan list. > Jenn, you may have set record for hijacking a list serve. Not that I > mind, its entertaining. > > Dan > > > -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 23:46:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g723kLZ4019921; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:46:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g723kKLk019915; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:46:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <174.c4be8f1.2a7b5a83@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:46:11 EDT Subject: im not a man! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 Jenn writes: im not a man! sigh..... if pictures are needed as proof --- email me and ill send you a link to my snapfish.com photos :) jtb Ricardo writes: What if Jenn is really a man? Getting his kicks by pretending he is a little girl?? Ricardo Dan writes: Wow, in one week this list has gone from dc-cycles to the jenn fan list. Jenn, you may have set record for hijacking a list serve. Not that I mind, its entertaining. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 23:52:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g723qQZ4020253; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:52:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g723qQIT020248; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:52:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <168.11800777.2a7b5bf1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:52:17 EDT Subject: Re: im not a man! and dan's response! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 Jenn writes: im not a man! sigh..... if pictures are needed as proof --- email me and ill send you a link to my snapfish.com photos :) jtb dan writes: Ricardo, you are so right. We need a picture.... of her nude (to make sure she isn't in drag) on the bike. jenn's additional response: the snapfish pics are not nude ones --- just thought id clarify! you kids!! :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 1 23:57:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g723vLZ4020583; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:57:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g723vKl3020578; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:57:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "dccycles" , Subject: RE: im not a man! and dan's response! Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:57:12 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <168.11800777.2a7b5bf1@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 03:56:18.0110 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E3125E0:01C239D8] I must have proof. Like Dan said, nude pics are a MUST. How else are we to know. We did the same thing for Tom and Chuck. Ricardo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 00:27:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g724RoZ4021036; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:27:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g724RnNe021029; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:27:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 00:29:11 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: im not a man! and dan's response! To: Ricardo Pontes Cc: dccycles , Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-id: <3D4A0A97.DEAC1AB8@comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > I must have proof. Like Dan said, nude pics are a MUST. How else are we to > know. We did the same thing for Tom and Chuck. What was the consensus on Tom, btw? (Har, har, har...) Horkster -- Mandatory Second Line (Chatty Moron Trademark) Dale Horstman - horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 06:12:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72ACKZ4023292; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:12:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72ACJSE023281; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:12:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020802101216.76933.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 03:12:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) To: dan , Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- dan wrote: > Wow, in one week this list has gone from dc-cycles to the > jenn fan list. > Jenn, you may have set record for hijacking a list serve. > Not that I > mind, its entertaining. not surprising. according to a recent dcc survey, despite their big egos and macho machines, the average motorcyclist last got laid in april, 1999. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 06:14:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72AETZ4023457; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:14:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72AESsM023451; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:14:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Dealers for Suzuki Service? Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:13:13 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" References: <41.21136f14.2a7b1750@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <41.21136f14.2a7b1750@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0208020613133W.16220@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thursday 01 August 2002 18:59, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > In a message dated 8/1/2002 5:08:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > George.Cole@XXXXXX writes: > > check the > > torque > > on critical bolts.(is a dealer is gonna do that?) > > Not just no but HELL NO! > > > Buy a filter, oil, a torque wrench...even a shop manual...save $$ > > Listen to the man! > Do as much as you can safely do yourself. > Save money, and know it is done right. I can see that for the majority of the service checks but the first (warranty check) and the major humps (10,000 miles) I'll be taking mine to the dealer. Verify what they've done. Watch out for the in-lbs torque measurements. It got me on one and almost on the second one. Carl -- Carl Schelin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 06:35:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72AZQZ4023699; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:35:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72AZQAr023694; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:35:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:34:10 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" References: <1a2.639dcae.2a7b1193@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <1a2.639dcae.2a7b1193@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0208020634103Y.16220@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ok, let's see what I can do here. Honorific=Evil Overlord Age=Older than my kids (45) Ride=FXSTI (Softail) Location=NASA Early Bird=Yes (up at 4am) Years riding=31 Day job="Chief" Engineer Average commute=35 minutes Vision=Week right eye, no glasses Inventive=A little Daughters=Christina (23; bday in 9 days), Samantha (19) Step-daughter=Jasmine (24) Own=Yes Name=Carl Evil Overlord Carl -- Carl Schelin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 07:06:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72B6KZ4023984; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:06:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72B6Jfp023977; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:06:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:05:09 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" References: <1a2.639dcae.2a7b1193@aol.com> <0208020634103Y.16220@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> In-Reply-To: <0208020634103Y.16220@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02080207050940.16220@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit And the obligatory typos and errors: weak, not week and Jasmine's birthday is tomorrow so it's (23; bday in 1 day) I didn't say Infallible Overlord Carl :-) Evil Overlord Carl On Friday 02 August 2002 06:34, Carl Schelin wrote: > Ok, let's see what I can do here. > > Honorific=Evil Overlord > Age=Older than my kids (45) > Ride=FXSTI (Softail) > Location=NASA > Early Bird=Yes (up at 4am) > Years riding=31 > Day job="Chief" Engineer > Average commute=35 minutes > Vision=Weak right eye, no glasses > Inventive=A little > Daughters=Christina (23; bday in 9 days), Samantha (19) > Step-daughter=Jasmine (23; bday in 1 day) > Own=Yes > Name=Carl > > Evil Overlord Carl -- Carl Schelin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 07:15:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72BFvZ4024185; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:15:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72BFuHi024175; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:15:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <684e2f04efc2428c8c85f2b365bd833f.kirk@vei.net> X-EM-APIVersion: 2, 0, 0, 8 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: "Kirk Roy" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: cute? Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:15:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g72BFtZ4024163 Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > anyone ever hear of a small town called indiana, pa? its about an hour and a > half northest of pittsburgh. some people know of it because of the > university -- indiana university of pennsylvania. some people know of it > because its jimmy stewarts birthplace. other people know of it because its > the christmas tree capital of the world. anyone know of it? and why in the > world do you?? I've ridden my dirt bike in Indiana. There's a mc shop there with decent service. I flatted and *then* realized I'd left my tubes and tire irons in college park, md. So, I pulled the wheel and another of the guys I was riding with took me to the shop (none of us morons brought tubes or tire irons that day, idiots! Slime doesn't help pinch flats...). The mechanic actually stopped what he was doing and even installed the tube for me, a lazy dirt rider's dream. Unfortunately, I didn't get into local culture too much (ate at the cheapo chain steak house and bought a rain suit at walmart). My family's from south of pittsburgh - uniontown... Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 07:55:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72BtpZ4024519; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:55:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72Btp0M024515; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:55:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:55:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Maddox To: Jay Block cc: md.abate@XXXXXX, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , Subject: Re: The link to a helmet recall site In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Jay Block wrote: >http://64.4.14.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=730cb49c2cf8de9eea9a902ca9de4c33&lat=1028249783&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fnexlsports%2ecom%2frecall%2ehtml >Don't ask me how, just copy and paste it. Try this instead: http://nexlsports.com/recall.html -- SIGFAULT: quote not generated Andrew Maddox, found at: madsox@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 08:06:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72C6GZ4024749; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:06:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72C6G9E024745; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:06:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020802120613.41690.qmail@web9702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 05:06:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: RE: cute? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >JTB confessed - >... >okok.. im originally from western pa.. >anyone ever hear of a small town called indiana, pa? >its about an hour and a half northest of pittsburgh. Sounds almost Erie. You'll find the roads here much better. :) Rich - Erie-ite __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 08:07:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72C7AZ4024912; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:07:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72C79Mn024905; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:07:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:07:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200208020807.AA227279514@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: Re: The link to a helmet recall site X-Mailer: Wow, a beanie helmet that: 1) has weak areas in the shell that don't protect your head 2) has a weak strap that won't keep the helmet on your head in a crash 3) does not meet legal requirements for labeling. Shocked! I am SHOCKED! Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Andrew Maddox Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:55:38 -0400 (EDT) >On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Jay Block wrote: > >>http://64.4.14.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=730cb49c2cf8de9eea9a902ca9de4c33&lat=1028249783&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fnexlsports%2ecom%2frecall%2ehtml >>Don't ask me how, just copy and paste it. > >Try this instead: >http://nexlsports.com/recall.html > > >-- >SIGFAULT: quote not generated >Andrew Maddox, found at: madsox@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 08:14:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72CE5Z4025104; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:14:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72CE5cE025097; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:14:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 08:13:47 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: bhuson@XXXXXX, scooterfzr@XXXXXX Cc: STmaven@XXXXXX, Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) Message-ID: <7D96621D.0B27B17A.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well.....I told everyone I turned "Dirt" last year so, this year I told everyone I was "older than dirt." I "feel" older than dirt. Does that count? ;-) Scooter In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 9:33:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > > > Sheesh, 31 is nowhere near older than dirt. My son is older than you are! > > scooterfzr@XXXXXX wrote: > > > I'll pay too. :-) > > > > A=age * just turned older than dirt (31) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 08:15:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72CFGZ4025276; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:15:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72CFFDn025269; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:15:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Scott R. Russell" To: , Subject: RE: im not a man! Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:11:21 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <174.c4be8f1.2a7b5a83@aol.com> Importance: Normal You have nude photos on your snapfish? That one is too easy to bite. Scott Russell 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S -----Original Message----- From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX [mailto:Jennthebiker@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:46 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: im not a man! Jenn writes: im not a man! sigh..... if pictures are needed as proof --- email me and ill send you a link to my snapfish.com photos :) jtb Ricardo writes: What if Jenn is really a man? Getting his kicks by pretending he is a little girl?? Ricardo Dan writes: Wow, in one week this list has gone from dc-cycles to the jenn fan list. Jenn, you may have set record for hijacking a list serve. Not that I mind, its entertaining. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 08:19:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72CJLZ4025449; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:19:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72CJKEU025440; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:19:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 08:19:09 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: cute? Message-ID: <30934CAA.7B8E3D83.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Why yes....I HAVE heard of Indiana, PA. As a matter of fact, I grew up in southwest PA in a little town called Carmichaels. About 60 miles south of Pittsburgh between Waynesburg and Uniontown. Attended college at California University of PA. Is that sufficient enough explanation as to why I know about Indiana, PA? ;-) Scooter (CUP Class of '94) In a message dated Thu, 1 Aug 2002 9:31:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jennthebiker writes: > > > >JTB confessed - > >... > > yay... i love it when people call me jtb :) although i must confess its not > usually because people are calling me jennthebiker! my last name begins with > a b. > > >okok.. im originally from western pa.. they forgot to teach us things > >like > >spelling (and capitalization and punctuation!) > > >[Dave] It's a big Commonwealth, where more specifically? > > anyone ever hear of a small town called indiana, pa? its about an hour and a > half northest of pittsburgh. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 08:20:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72CKVZ4025618; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:20:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72CKVb1025612; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:20:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802081939.029cf050@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 08:20:10 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) In-Reply-To: <3D49EF8D.A1EDFBE7@patriot.net> References: <2449BECE.1BF92ED7.1056E6D9@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:33 PM 8/1/2002, William J. Huson wrote: >Sheesh, 31 is nowhere near older than dirt. My son is older than you are! Ouch. Big three-oh in a couple more months. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 N38.84810 W77.44614 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 08:31:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72CVrZ4025815; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:31:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72CVr88025811; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:31:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 2 Aug 2002 12:31:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20020802123151.22197.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: who X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) Dan remarked: >Wow, in one week this list has gone from dc-cycles to the jenn fan list. >Jenn, you may have set record for hijacking a list serve. [Dave] Dan, 1 word for you ( & the list ): SQUEAKERS. The archives will tell the tale... Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 08:36:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72CaJZ4025990; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:36:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72CaJCQ025985; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:36:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 08:35:54 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: kirk@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: cute? Message-ID: <4495999F.0A12AC9D.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Howdy neighbor. :-) I'm from Carmichaels. How often do you go up to visit the folks? Scooter In a message dated Fri, 2 Aug 2002 6:15:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, kirk@XXXXXX writes: > > My family's from south of pittsburgh - uniontown... > > Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 08:38:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72CcJZ4026151; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:38:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72CcJew026147; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:38:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 08:38:09 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: MacDa@XXXXXX, Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: im not a man! Message-ID: <0C0C5B5C.19656B4D.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think she meant that she has nude photos OF her snapfish. Scooter In a message dated Fri, 2 Aug 2002 7:11:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, MacDa@XXXXXX writes: > > > You have nude photos on your snapfish? That one is too easy to bite. > > Scott Russell > 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX [mailto:Jennthebiker@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:46 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: im not a man! > > > Jenn writes: > im not a man! sigh..... if pictures are needed as proof --- email me and > ill > send you a link to my snapfish.com photos :) > > jtb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 08:45:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72Cj5Z4026361; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:45:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72Cj5v9026357; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:45:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020802124503.63555.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 05:45:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: Re: who To: sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020802123151.22197.qmail@server445.gisol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I wonder what ever happened to that "queen"? Glenn --- sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > [Dave] Dan, 1 word for you ( & the list ): > SQUEAKERS. > > The archives will tell the tale... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 09:22:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72DMuZ4026699; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:22:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72DMtxf026691; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:22:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020802132252.2660.qmail@web10503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:22:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Isaac Blanck Subject: RE: cute? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know of it. Having lived in Pittsburgh for 9 years, and in PA for 24 years, I knew a bunch of people who went to IUP (the *real* Indiana University, as they'd say ... jib --- Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > >JTB confessed - > >... > > yay... i love it when people call me jtb :) > although i must confess its not > usually because people are calling me jennthebiker! > my last name begins with > a b. > > >okok.. im originally from western pa.. they forgot > to teach us things > >like > >spelling (and capitalization and punctuation!) > > >[Dave] It's a big Commonwealth, where more > specifically? > > anyone ever hear of a small town called indiana, pa? > its about an hour and a > half northest of pittsburgh. some people know of it > because of the > university -- indiana university of pennsylvania. > some people know of it > because its jimmy stewarts birthplace. other people > know of it because its > the christmas tree capital of the world. anyone > know of it? and why in the > world do you?? > > >> --jon > >> I need more coffee. I feel grumpy. > >> > > >sure hope he got some! > > >[Dave] Uhh... You DO mean coffee... Right? This > *IS* a family > >list... > > hey now! .... of course i meant coffee --- what else > were you possibly > thinking? *innocentlook* > > jtb :) > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 09:50:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72Do3Z4026971; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:50:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72Do3ao026964; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:50:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020802135000.61120.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:50:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: im not a man! and dan's response! To: Ricardo Pontes , dccycles , Jennthebiker@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > > I must have proof. Like Dan said, nude pics are a MUST. > How else are we to > know. We did the same thing for Tom and Chuck. the one of me spanking chuck's bare bottom with the sporty tassles as he's bent over the tire changer is friggin hilarious.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 09:59:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72DxOZ4027219; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:59:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72DxOCo027211; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:59:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:59:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Maddox To: dccycles Subject: RE: im not a man! and dan's response! In-Reply-To: <20020802135000.61120.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Tom Gimer wrote: >--- Ricardo Pontes wrote: >> I must have proof. Like Dan said, nude pics are a MUST. > >the one of me spanking chuck's bare bottom with the sporty >tassles as he's bent over the tire changer is friggin >hilarious.... Y'know, the mental images this list is calling up are just getting more and more disturbing... !! -- SIGFAULT: quote not generated Andrew Maddox, found at: madsox@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 09:59:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72DxvZ4027378; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:59:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72DxvoZ027374; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:59:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZLQIq6evPbdEAHLLSUEtonmfZmfrUkGf1ZXDmTgwginxWMctB4nyo2tCSkpwcbO4g= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: , Subject: RE: cute? Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:00:27 -0400 Message-ID: <005a01c23a2c$f4c8fd60$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: > i sense a bit of tension from my good friend jon? All better now. ****aaaahhhhhh****** 64oz of home made iced coffee is a good thing on a hot sticky am. Lots of milk, sugar and cinnamums makes for a happy jon-boy. > *flips her hairs* im not blonde! :) Neither is Patti (not really, anyway...sshhhh, sEEkriT.). You two have so much in common. BTW, do you have any 20yo Doc Martens? That you bought new? (For those that don't know Patti: Her classic line to the snotty young punk at the club who thought she was *so* the sh!t...and the first to discover ink and spikes: "I've got Doc Martens older than you. Shut up and get out of my way." I've prolly misquoted her....). >what in the world is chuck doing on tv?? You'll have to send Comcast (or Cox) the $12.95 to find out. If you don't have a very open mind and strong stomach, spend the $13 on a 12 pack, drink it, and just *say* that you watched it. > im a real person..i promise you.... > if you'd ever offer to riding youd find out! :) > okok.. im originally from western pa.. they forgot to teach us things like > spelling (and capitalization and punctuation!) I guess you proved that point in the prior paragraph. Don't sweat it, kiddo, it's all in fun. > > I need more coffee. I feel grumpy. > sure hope he got some! yeppers. I'm not nearly so hormonal today. --jon ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 10:07:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72E7qZ4027606; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:07:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72E7ps2027599; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:07:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVby3XIuFJmb4CegoJQikS9thpjcb1NQTKZ8mmBxcjvJfeqHvWLxZQfsiRytqT88D24= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: , "'Leon Begeman'" , "'Dc-Cycles \(E-mail\)'" Subject: RE: helmets wanted.. Rashed.. Slightly damaged for painting Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:08:22 -0400 Message-ID: <005b01c23a2e$0f8905e0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000101c239cc$60f86b80$66bc82ac@ticostat.com> Some people have made careers from painting helmets. Jerry Bernardo (ESPN2) started off painting helmets for local pros, then guys like McGrath started wearing his lids. He turned into a "personality" with connections in the SX/MX world... Troy Lee is a real person that was a helmet painter? --jon -----Original Message----- From: Patti Rodgers >Is there any truth to the manufacturer's statements that paint/adhesive seeps into the impact-absorbing layer and dissolves it? ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 10:18:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72EI9Z4027839; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:18:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72EI9gl027834; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:18:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVa/pE/3HZ9btfmX7noqGTpfzO/b929BfH9EyyxRO0Y4hhymgx626w/XRoCeFpcnsD8= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: , Subject: RE: im not a man! Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:18:39 -0400 Message-ID: <005c01c23a2f$8030a220$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <174.c4be8f1.2a7b5a83@aol.com> RU nekkid? > jtb offers: > im not a man! sigh..... if pictures are needed as proof --- email me and ill > send you a link to my snapfish.com photos :) Also, be sure to check out www.fat-bald-with-acne.com for really hot pix. Send me a check for $19.95, and I'll get you access to the VIP section, with live streaming video from my bedroom *and* my shower! --jon, with a pimple on my dimple ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 10:18:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72EIGZ4027876; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:18:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72EIGrN027870; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:18:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 2 Aug 2002 14:18:15 -0000 Message-ID: <20020802141815.21268.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Globe article on MSF class X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) from the Boston Globe, via the FFX Journal: http://www.jrnl.com/cfdocs/new/ffx/story.cfm?paper=ffx§ion=fp&snumber=31Rider safety comes first in motorcycle class By BILL GRIFFITH The Boston Globe It was a typical first day of class. Instructor Bob Lee went around the circle of desks, asking each of the 40 about their motivation for choosing to take this particular course. The replies were interesting. ``I want to surprise my boyfriend.'' ``I have a new Harley in my driveway, but I promised myself I wouldn't ride it until I took this course.'' ``I rode years ago and want to get back into it.'' All reasons Lee has heard before as he began our five consecutive hours of motorcycle instruction with Ironstone Ventures of Acton. Our ``Basic Rider Course'' was designed by the Motorcycle Safety Foundation of Irvine, Calif., and is approved by the Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles. The one answer Lee didn't want to hear, however, was ``Because I want my motorcycle operator's license.'' Indeed, several members of the class have had their licenses for years and just want to refresh their skills. And, yes, the course Lee is about to teach is all about learning to ride a motorcycle safely. But, in truth, his students' motivation for signing up clearly is because successful graduates of this program do get their motorcycle licenses without taking additional RMV tests. As my turn approached, I wondered what to say. The truth? Certainly. But why had I signed up? Because I decided to take the course on a whim, seeing a brochure in the Melrose branch of the RMV while a friend got his license renewed? Because I was frustrated by a knee that wouldn't let me run anymore, that was so unpredictable that I couldn't even ride a stationary bike some days? Because I thought it would be a good idea to learn to ride the correct way so I could ride my daughter and son-in-law's motorscooters the next time we visit them in Italy? All were true. I offered number three to the group, eliciting a snicker or two, but everyone was more concerned about what was coming from Lee - a scheduled five hours of classroom instruction on a rainy Sunday afternoon in May as part of the course. Our five-hour class stretched an extra half-hour before we finished the exam that came at the conclusion of the four separate units of instruction. Lee might be surprised that, two months later, I remember many of the points he hammered home: On being apprehensive about riding: ``Successful riding is 10 percent physical, 90 percent mental.'' (That would be put to the test by we beginners in coming days during the all-day riding portion of the course). ``A careful automobile driver makes for a careful motorcyclist.'' ``The more I teach, the more I reinforce my own good habits, and the better rider I become.'' ``Riding is all about risk management ... and lack of attentiveness is the cardinal sin.'' On the importance of protective clothing (while talking of seeing people riding in T-shirts, cutoffs and sandals): ``You don't know what pain is until you fall without wearing good stuff.'' On dressing for the elements: ``Bikers are Weather Channel groupies.'' ``This is a group class. You have to keep up or be dismissed.'' (Yes, it happens.) On using your head: ``The bike goes where you're looking. Look down, you fall down. If you want to turn the bike, turn your head to watch where you want to go.'' On wearing black: ``Not safe. Visible is good. That's one reason so many new motorcycles are painted bright colors and why so much of the new riding gear is bright. Wear a colored helmet and bright jacket.'' On wearing helmets: ``The anti-helmet lobby will tell you they restrict your hearing. I'll tell you that you can hear better with a helmet on and wearing earplugs than you can without a helmet. As for vision: Try riding at 65 miles per hour without a helmet and visor, and see what you can see with your eyes watering.'' On where to ride on the highway. ``In the middle of the lane? Wrong. That's where all the grease and oil drips from other vehicles. Ride to the left or right side of the lane. And don't be afraid to move back and forth to make sure operators in front and behind you know you're there. Avoid other drivers' blind spots.'' So what about the actual riding, you ask? Our class got to do that during the next two days. One group of 20 rode Monday, the other on Tuesday. Monday, it poured incessantly. As I looked out the window at work, I wondered how my classmates were faring. At 6:30 Tuesday morning, when we were trying on helmets in a parking lot, I knew. They'd had a miserable day. Everything - helmets and motorcycles - were still soaked. But the small - 175 and 250cc - Honda and Suzuki bikes the course uses fired right up. On this day, our riding instructors are John Rossi and Ed O'Neil. But the message is the same. Safety. Understand what you're going to do next. Know how to do it. Then execute the maneuver. First we learn to walk the bikes and familiarize ourselves with the controls. But soon, very soon, we're riding, learning to shift, brake and accelerate through corners. ``Knees against the gas tank. Heads up. Look where you're turning,'' is Rossi's constant reminder. In the afternoon we're practicing figure eights, swerving, panic stops, downshifting and - seemingly endlessly - accelerating properly through curves. Little do we know it's all geared for the dreaded end-of-the-day test. At 4 p.m., when most of us just want to curl up for a nap, Rossi and O'Neil run us through the four-stage driver's test. Pass it, and you get your license; fail, and you can come back for a small fee and get another afternoon's practice and a re-test. ``Our test is tougher than the Registry's'' Rossi said. Course founder Joe Proia said about 85 percent of students pass the test on the first try. Our group falls short of that by a student or two, but those riders are offered a refresher class and re-test later in the week. Afterward, O'Neil asks several of us: ``So, do you think you're ready for the highways now?'' We look at each other and shake our heads in the negative. Even though my license now says I'm qualified to ride on the streets, the thought of heading out into traffic, here or in Italy, still is daunting. Not quite yet. But maybe soon. All of us answer with a version of ``We need to keep practicing.'' O'Neil smiles. It seems we may have absorbed the most important lesson of all. That we've taken one step. A big one, but there's more to learn and experience is vital. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 10:23:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72ENhZ4028193; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:23:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72ENc2t028174; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:23:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: RE: cute? Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:23:27 -0400 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664090D4@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: cute? Thread-Index: AcI6J8b2V6t0ArRQRS+VpF2E27PPvgABL6zA From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g72ENbZ4028162 Allow me to chime in on this and introduce myself in the process. I'm a complete newbie to motorcycling. Since the beginning of the year, I got licensed, took the MSF class, and bought some gear (leather everything, boots, and gloves--I still need a helmet!) but I remain bikeless :( I'm still looking... I used to live in NE PA, in Hazleton. I don't really know anyone who went to IUP, but I have to say that, pound for pound, IUP is an overwhelming winner when it comes to sending me the most college promotional materials :) In the end, I choose GWU, graduated about a year ago, and stayed in this area. Once I buy a bike and get some basic riding skills under my belt, I will surely come out for a ride or two. For now, follwing the discussion on Jenn's gender will have to do... hehehe... Witold www.witold.org -----Original Message----- From: Isaac Blanck [mailto:thelostshark@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:23 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: cute? I know of it. Having lived in Pittsburgh for 9 years, and in PA for 24 years, I knew a bunch of people who went to IUP (the *real* Indiana University, as they'd say ... jib --- Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > >JTB confessed - > >... > > yay... i love it when people call me jtb :) > although i must confess its not > usually because people are calling me jennthebiker! > my last name begins with > a b. > > >okok.. im originally from western pa.. they forgot > to teach us things > >like > >spelling (and capitalization and punctuation!) > > >[Dave] It's a big Commonwealth, where more > specifically? > > anyone ever hear of a small town called indiana, pa? > its about an hour and a > half northest of pittsburgh. some people know of it > because of the > university -- indiana university of pennsylvania. > some people know of it > because its jimmy stewarts birthplace. other people > know of it because its > the christmas tree capital of the world. anyone > know of it? and why in the > world do you?? > > >> --jon > >> I need more coffee. I feel grumpy. > >> > > >sure hope he got some! > > >[Dave] Uhh... You DO mean coffee... Right? This > *IS* a family > >list... > > hey now! .... of course i meant coffee --- what else > were you possibly > thinking? *innocentlook* > > jtb :) > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 10:45:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72EjdZ4028496; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:45:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72Ejc5x028491; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:45:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYgEBgFzXBI2BHHf3ybMtgf36zp8bw/8sS/wCE2/KzCcgVvjN5xP8nI52pyYXe2vQY= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: , Subject: dc-singles chat Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:46:08 -0400 Message-ID: <006501c23a33$56c1a6b0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1a2.639dcae.2a7b1193@aol.com> jtb, here's my info and a pic: A=age: 35 S=sex: twice a day, but solo flights only L=location: Arlington (Mom's basement apartment) H=hair: a full head of brown hair (is now gone). somehow replaced by a few gray hairs, combed over, of course E=eyes: a filmy yellow surrounding an remarkably unremarkable brown H=height: 5' 2" W=weight: 289....kg B=bike: Honda Cub Y=years riding: 3, including 2 years and 11 months on the back of my Mom's bike C=crashes: 2 hard drives, one methamphetamine L=actual location: Ok, she doesn't let me have the whole apartment. I share it with Guano, a rather nice gentleman who pays her rent and keeps the place up. my pic: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/traficant1.html --jon From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 10:55:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72Et3Z4028739; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:55:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72Et13I028733; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:55:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020802105520.00d37b08@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 10:56:14 -0400 To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: RE: cute? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:31 PM 8/1/2002 -0400, Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: >anyone ever hear of a small town called indiana, pa? its about an hour and a >half northest of pittsburgh. some people know of it because of the >university -- indiana university of pennsylvania. some people know of it >because its jimmy stewarts birthplace. other people know of it because its >the christmas tree capital of the world. anyone know of it? and why in the >world do you?? If you drank enough Iron City in your college days, you know *all* the towns north of Pittsburgh. Burp. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 10:56:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72EurZ4028912; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:56:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72EursH028907; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:56:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020802105726.00d13550@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 10:58:12 -0400 To: "dccycles" From: Larry Larson Subject: RE: im not a man! and dan's response! In-Reply-To: References: <168.11800777.2a7b5bf1@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:57 PM 8/1/2002 -0400, Ricardo Pontes wrote: >I must have proof. Like Dan said, nude pics are a MUST. How else are we to >know. We did the same thing for Tom and Chuck. Of course list membership dropped by over 75% as a result... -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 10:56:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72EuwZ4028949; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:56:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72EuvJo028943; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:56:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Scott R. Russell" To: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" , Subject: RE: cute? Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:49:16 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664090D4@rnc1.rnchq.org> No bike, rules? Blake has a bike for sale, inexpensive too. Will put his email below so you can find him. Scott Russell 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S For Sale: 1978 Yamaha XS650 Simply don)B’t have time for the bike anymore. Bought a few years back as a basket case (literally) and was built back up as a project. Engine runs strong, literally just needs a set of coils and ready to go. New battery this year, carbs cleaned and synched last month, timing set a few weeks ago, new advancer weight springs, new custom hand made wiring harness made for this bike (all soldered, as few connectors as possible-uses automotive coils). Great beginner bike for learning the roads on, taking those first spills, or even for the basis for a chopper project. Also included is an extra engine and various parts incase needed, but these bikes were built to last. Has title (from previous owner - never changed over). Bike Must Go before Aug 15. Asking Price $500 or make me an offer. This thing must go quick. Willing to transport in Northern VA area for $20. Blake Stoddard Dale City, VA (703) 878-2532 -----Original Message----- From: Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services [mailto:Witold@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:23 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: cute? Allow me to chime in on this and introduce myself in the process. I'm a complete newbie to motorcycling. Since the beginning of the year, I got licensed, took the MSF class, and bought some gear (leather everything, boots, and gloves--I still need a helmet!) but I remain bikeless :( I'm still looking... I used to live in NE PA, in Hazleton. I don't really know anyone who went to IUP, but I have to say that, pound for pound, IUP is an overwhelming winner when it comes to sending me the most college promotional materials :) In the end, I choose GWU, graduated about a year ago, and stayed in this area. Once I buy a bike and get some basic riding skills under my belt, I will surely come out for a ride or two. For now, follwing the discussion on Jenn's gender will have to do... hehehe... Witold www.witold.org -----Original Message----- From: Isaac Blanck [mailto:thelostshark@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:23 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: cute? I know of it. Having lived in Pittsburgh for 9 years, and in PA for 24 years, I knew a bunch of people who went to IUP (the *real* Indiana University, as they'd say ... jib --- Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > >JTB confessed - > >... > > yay... i love it when people call me jtb :) > although i must confess its not > usually because people are calling me jennthebiker! > my last name begins with > a b. > > >okok.. im originally from western pa.. they forgot > to teach us things > >like > >spelling (and capitalization and punctuation!) > > >[Dave] It's a big Commonwealth, where more > specifically? > > anyone ever hear of a small town called indiana, pa? > its about an hour and a > half northest of pittsburgh. some people know of it > because of the > university -- indiana university of pennsylvania. > some people know of it > because its jimmy stewarts birthplace. other people > know of it because its > the christmas tree capital of the world. anyone > know of it? and why in the > world do you?? > > >> --jon > >> I need more coffee. I feel grumpy. > >> > > >sure hope he got some! > > >[Dave] Uhh... You DO mean coffee... Right? This > *IS* a family > >list... > > hey now! .... of course i meant coffee --- what else > were you possibly > thinking? *innocentlook* > > jtb :) > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 11:09:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72F9BZ4029323; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:09:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72F9Avr029316; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:09:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020802110146.00d75670@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 11:10:26 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) In-Reply-To: <0208020634103Y.16220@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> References: <1a2.639dcae.2a7b1193@aol.com> <1a2.639dcae.2a7b1193@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 06:34 AM 8/2/2002 -0400, Carl Schelin wrote: >Ok, let's see what I can do here. > >Honorific=Evil Overlord >Age=Older than my kids (45) >Ride=FXSTI (Softail) >Location=NASA >Early Bird=Yes (up at 4am) >Years riding=31 >Day job="Chief" Engineer >Average commute=35 minutes >Vision=Week right eye, no glasses >Inventive=A little >Daughters=Christina (23; bday in 9 days), Samantha (19) >Step-daughter=Jasmine (24) >Own=Yes >Name=Carl Carl, you forgot to fill in the other required fields: S=State of residence? U=Underwear under leathers? C=Caliber of primary weapon? K=Kickstand style (claw, foot, snake, other)? S=Synth or dino? 8;) -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 11:59:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72FxCZ4029946; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:59:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72FxB2G029937; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:59:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <74.20ba9cad.2a7c0645@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:59:01 EDT Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/1/2002 10:28:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > Sheesh, 31 is nowhere near older than dirt. My son is older than you are! Werent no dirt when I was young, had to beat rocks together to make me some, just so I could ride my dirt bike. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 12:13:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72GDVZ4030252; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:13:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72GDVSS030247; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:13:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <183.c05c37f.2a7c09a0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:13:20 EDT Subject: Re: Dealers for Suzuki Service? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/2/2002 6:14:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cschelin@XXXXXX writes: > I can see that for the majority of the service checks but the first ( > warranty > check) and the major humps (10,000 miles) I'll be taking mine to the dealer. The manufacturer _cannot_ by law, require you to go to any "official" location to have required service work done. Your owners manual lists what needs to be done, if you can do it, do it, if not you can have it done anywhere. Keep all receipts for oil etc. as proof you did the work. That said there can be advantages to going to a dealer, they like people who spend money there So in a marginal warranty claim they may be more willing to help you out. But for "change the oil and make sure nothing is falling off" services you should be able to do it yourself. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 12:18:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72GIGZ4030447; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:18:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72GIGpi030441; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:18:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00dc01c23a40$e0da0e20$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: , References: <20020802141815.21268.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Subject: Re: Globe article on MSF class Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:17:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Here's one thing I can't agree with. The "careful" drivers are the ones driving 50 in the fast lane. I'd rather have "skillful" drivers on the road. Too many people think they can get away with being low skill drivers (or riders) as long as they compensate by being "careful." Paul in DC ----- Original Message ----- From: > from the Boston Globe, via the FFX Journal: ... > > ``A careful automobile driver makes for a careful motorcyclist.'' > ... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 12:18:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72GIJZ4030485; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:18:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72GIJr3030478; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:18:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00dd01c23a40$e1bbe2a0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" References: <20020802135000.61120.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: im not a man! and dan's response! Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:18:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Clawing out my mind's eye..... Paul in DC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Gimer" > > the one of me spanking chuck's bare bottom with the sporty > tassles as he's bent over the tire changer is friggin > hilarious.... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 12:18:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72GIoZ4030521; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:18:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72GInFP030514; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:18:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:18:37 EDT Subject: Re: cute? CUTE? Hell no they aint cute! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/2/2002 7:16:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kirk@XXXXXX writes: > The mechanic actually stopped what he was doing and even installed the tube > for me, a lazy dirt rider's dream. Indeed! I for one HATE rim locks, I hate em, I hate em, I hate em. Rare on street bikes (more so since tubeless tires) but damn near required on dirt bikes. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Has rim locks!!!!!!! Did I say I HATE THEM! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 12:35:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72GZNZ4031138; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:35:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72GZNMD031133; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:35:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: "Scott R. Russell" , "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" , Subject: Re: cute? Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:33:54 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02080212335446.16220@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Better hurry, I'm stopping by this afternoon :-) Carl On Friday 02 August 2002 10:49, Scott R. Russell wrote: > No bike, rules? Blake has a bike for sale, inexpensive too. Will put his > email below so you can find him. > > Scott Russell > 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S > > For Sale: > -- Carl Schelin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 12:38:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72GcqZ4031327; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:38:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72Gcqqa031320; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:38:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <125.1448e8e5.2a7c0f90@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:38:40 EDT Subject: Re: Globe article on MSF class To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/2/2002 12:18:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pawilson@XXXXXX writes: > Here's one thing I can't agree with. > > The "careful" drivers are the ones driving 50 in the fast lane The article did not say that. Those bozos are NOT safe drivers. > I'd rather > have "skillful" drivers on the road. Damn straight! > Too many people think they can get away with being low skill drivers (or > riders) as long as they compensate by being "careful." Not just yes, but HELL YES. What MSFs new curriculum says is that safe car drivers (as defined by accident free) _tend_ to have fewer mishaps on bikes. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 12:40:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72Ge9Z4031496; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:40:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72Ge8dF031489; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:40:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Dealers for Suzuki Service? Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:38:57 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" References: <183.c05c37f.2a7c09a0@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <183.c05c37f.2a7c09a0@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02080212385747.16220@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Friday 02 August 2002 12:13, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > In a message dated 8/2/2002 6:14:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > cschelin@XXXXXX writes: > > I can see that for the majority of the service checks but the first ( > > warranty > > check) and the major humps (10,000 miles) I'll be taking mine to the > > dealer. > > The manufacturer _cannot_ by law, require you to go to any "official" > location to have required service work done. Sorry, I meant that I took it in so they could make sure everything was ok after the breakin. I had a clamp fail on the heat shield on my last one. Granted, they would have had to replace it anyway, it's just a sanity check. I don't have enough experience to check the bearings on the steering column or do the valves. At least, not yet :-) > Your owners manual lists what > needs to be done, if you can do it, do it, if not you can have it done > anywhere. Keep all receipts for oil etc. as proof you did the work. > That said there can be advantages to going to a dealer, they like people > who spend money there So in a marginal warranty claim they may be more > willing to help you out. But for "change the oil and make sure nothing is > falling off" services you should be able to do it yourself. > I agree with you mainly. And while I can and do the rest of the work, I'd still rather do a dealer check for the first one and the major milestones. Personal preferences based on my level of wrenching experience. YMMV, HAND. Carl -- Carl Schelin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 12:49:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72Gn2Z4031675; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:49:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72Gn2oo031671; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:49:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <939a4e3e5ae945ce85d57f45da9a8481.kirk@vei.net> X-EM-APIVersion: 2, 0, 0, 8 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: "Kirk Roy" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: cute? CUTE? Hell no they aint cute! Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:49:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g72Gn1Z4031659 PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > In a message dated 8/2/2002 7:16:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kirk@XXXXXX > writes: > > The mechanic actually stopped what he was doing and even installed the tube > > for me, a lazy dirt rider's dream. > > Indeed! I for one HATE rim locks, I hate em, I hate em, I hate em. > Rare on street bikes (more so since tubeless tires) but damn near required on > dirt bikes. I spent a ridiculous amount of time getting a new tire on the rear of the bike once (like 30-40 minutes - toughest knobby I've ever put on, so bad my conscious mind has blocked out the model). I stand up, glad the ordeal is finally over and then ask myself, "why is the rimlock sitting there, on the floor?" I don't even know why I took it all the way off, one of those mindless "in the zone" sorts of the things (but the wrong zone). On the plus side the bead was loosened up so it wasn't such a bear to get the rimlock in there (well, no more than normal anyway). Amazing that the high level enduro/cc/hs types can change a tube in under 5 minutes - rimlocks and all. Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 12:52:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72GqAZ4031861; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:52:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72GqAFs031855; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:52:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <015101c23a45$9bdcf9e0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: , References: <125.1448e8e5.2a7c0f90@aol.com> Subject: Re: Globe article on MSF class Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:55:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ----- Original Message ----- From: > In a message dated 8/2/2002 12:18:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > pawilson@XXXXXX writes: > > > Here's one thing I can't agree with. > > > > The "careful" drivers are the ones driving 50 in the fast lane > > The article did not say that. Those bozos are NOT safe drivers. > Point well taken. I should have said the people who *think* they're "careful" are the ones doing 50 in the fast lane. We now to return to DC-Cycles Tom and Chuck's SM club and singles chat room. Paul in DC From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 13:05:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72H5cZ4032105; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:05:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72H5bpE032097; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:05:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbkU1VDewGyxY5nwDc14EizF9eYmwF5PW5bU+SK6lgHx4XoBFLAwy/YKGBUQtTQ4iE= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: knobbies & skinned knuckles Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:06:07 -0400 Message-ID: <007401c23a46$e4fa5d10$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <939a4e3e5ae945ce85d57f45da9a8481.kirk@vei.net> And those ISDE freaks...with Mousse inserts, too. they all suck. f-ers. I used to set a new knobbie in the sun, with my (now ex-) wife's blow dryer w/extension cord stuck inside...blowing hot air round and round. Get that bad boy all het up and pliable. Then I'd proceed to skin knuckles and pinch tubes for hours at a time. What fun! I've still got my mondo 14" tire irons...I pull them out and hammer on my fingers once in awhile to bring back fond old memories. --jon -----Original Message----- From: Kirk Roy [mailto:kirk@XXXXXX] > Amazing that the high level enduro/cc/hs types can change a tube in under 5 minutes - rimlocks and all. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 13:18:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72HIHZ4032307; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:18:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72HIG2m032302; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:18:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: X-EM-APIVersion: 2, 0, 0, 8 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: "Kirk Roy" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: knobbies & skinned knuckles Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:18:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g72HIFZ4032290 Jon Strang wrote: > And those ISDE freaks...with Mousse inserts, too. > they all suck. f-ers. Agreed! And those inserts are scary and, apparently single use (they'll replace them multiple times during a six day). > I used to set a new knobbie in the sun, with my (now ex-) wife's blow dryer > w/extension cord stuck inside...blowing hot air round and round. Get that > bad boy all het up and pliable. Heat gun here... :) > I've still got my mondo 14" tire irons...I pull them out and hammer on my > fingers once in awhile to bring back fond old memories. Makes you stop laughing at the guys who bring their dirt bikes in to have the shop change the tires, don't it? :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 13:46:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72HkAZ4000340; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:46:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72HkAk4000334; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:46:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4AC54D.3000107@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 13:45:49 -0400 From: Chuck and Karen Pena Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) References: <245B5C45.52A62482.001912B6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit STmaven@XXXXXX wrote: > A=age None of your damn business > S=sex Yes. As often as possible. > L=location Wherever the mood strikes me. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 13:46:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72HkGZ4000374; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:46:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72HkGae000369; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:46:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [151.196.168.14] From: "Jay Block" To: Bob@XXXXXX, md.abate@XXXXXX, AIMLawyers@XXXXXX, aimncom@XXXXXX, Gypsylthr@XXXXXX, bbasel@XXXXXX, bettyboopbear@XXXXXX, bettyhdstore@XXXXXX, bikerdan@XXXXXX, bob@XXXXXX, bussep@XXXXXX, cacollin@XXXXXX, cmpurrin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, dick@XXXXXX, djake@XXXXXX, imwolfie69@XXXXXX, Jumpstart301@XXXXXX, LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX, maggireid@XXXXXX, manck@XXXXXX, MGVLAHOS@XXXXXX, michellecr@XXXXXX, m-riders@XXXXXX, cnorth@XXXXXX, NCOMBish@XXXXXX, philip.l.kraft@XXXXXX, pjnlinda@XXXXXX, prez95ocmd@XXXXXX, ci37290@XXXXXX, wglass@XXXXXX, rdix@XXXXXX, rebel_rider69@XXXXXX, squid126@XXXXXX, suljustdad@XXXXXX, toni2000r@XXXXXX, wisennock@XXXXXX, wmcrum@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Okay, got it this time. Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 13:46:07 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 17:46:08.0182 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B633560:01C23A4C] Hey Bob, No flames. You are a friend. Believe me, when I need flames, I can get them just by breathing. Ride safe(ly). Jay From: "Bob Henig" Reply-To: To: "'Jay Block'" ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Subject: RE: Okay, got it this time. Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:38:59 -0400 Sorry folks, but I've got to jump on this band wagon. It should come as no surprise to anyone that some of these "beanie" or "brain bucket" style helmets don't meet FED REGS. IMHO it's a total surprise that any of them meet any requirements for safety at all. I would not be posting this message had I not been wearing a real full face helmet 21 years ago this November 13th (Friday in case you're inquisitive). IMNSHO if you're going to ride you should dress like it as apposed to looking like you're heading to the beach. All types of protective gear prevents serious, or more serious injuries in any kind of accident. Air bags and seat belts saved my wife and I a few years ago in a accident like the one Dick and Lenore just survived, the only difference is that we collided with an entire mountain. :-D No flames please, it's just an opinion. Bob Henig Owner, Rider, Enthusiast Bob's BMW Motorcycles Columbia, Maryland Ride for Kids Task Force Leader 10720 Guilford Rd. Columbia-Jessup MD 20794-9385 301-497-8949 x218 bob@XXXXXX www.bobsbmw.com -----Original Message----- From: Jay Block [mailto:jayblockllc@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 7:54 AM To: md.abate@XXXXXX; AIMLawyers@XXXXXX; aimncom@XXXXXX; Gypsylthr@XXXXXX; bbasel@XXXXXX; bettyboopbear@XXXXXX; bettyhdstore@XXXXXX; bikerdan@XXXXXX; bob@XXXXXX; bussep@XXXXXX; cacollin@XXXXXX; cmpurrin@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX; dick@XXXXXX; djake@XXXXXX; imwolfie69@XXXXXX; Jumpstart301@XXXXXX; LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX; maggireid@XXXXXX; manck@XXXXXX; MGVLAHOS@XXXXXX; michellecr@XXXXXX; m-riders@XXXXXX; cnorth@XXXXXX; NCOMBish@XXXXXX; philip.l.kraft@XXXXXX; pjnlinda@XXXXXX; prez95ocmd@XXXXXX; ci37290@XXXXXX; wglass@XXXXXX; rdix@XXXXXX; rebel_rider69@XXXXXX; squid126@XXXXXX; suljustdad@XXXXXX; toni2000r@XXXXXX; wisennock@XXXXXX; wmcrum@XXXXXX Subject: Okay, got it this time. NexLT Sports Products 121 Aviation Way, Watsonville, Ca. 95076 (888) FOR-NexL . (831) 786-1800 fax -1804 . www.nexlsports.com Dear Customer, March 27 2002 This notice is sent to you in accordance with the requirements of the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act. NexL Sports Products has determined that all sizes of its NXT "Beanie" helmets, NEXL 01, Part Nos., MB021, MB031, and MB041 manufactured prior to February 28, 2002, fail to comply with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) No. 218, "Motorcycle Helmets." REASON FOR THIS RECALL These helmets have areas in the shell which could allow a sharp object to penetrate to the users head, and the plastic loop at the right strap could break under high loading. In the event of a crash, serious head injury or death could occur from penetration of the helmet or excessive force and/or, should the plastic loop of the chinstrap break, the wearer would be unprotected. Also, under FMVSS 218, these helmets are required to have a label with a model number and a warning to the user, "Make No Modifications." WHAT WE WILL DO NexL Sports Products will rework all NXT helmets at our facility in Watsonville, CA. We will disassemble each helmet and add a lamination within the outer shell to prevent penetration and remove the plastic loop and loop the chinstrap around the ear strap and secure it with reinforced stitching. Also, a label will be affixed to your helmet which will contain a model number and a warning to not make modifications to the helmet. This procedure will be performed at no charge and a pre-paid UPS label will be sent to you so you can return your helmet to us. WHAT YOU SHOULD DO Please contact us as soon as possible to arrange for us to rework your helmet. The labor time necessary to perform these corrections is approximately 15 minutes. However, it may take a couple of days to receive, repair, and return your helmet if you have to ship it to us. 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Customer Service NexLT Sports Products. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 13:54:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72HshZ4000680; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:54:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72HshaA000674; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:54:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4AC759.1020003@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 13:54:33 -0400 From: Chuck and Karen Pena Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Gimer CC: Ricardo Pontes , dccycles , Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Subject: Re: im not a man! and dan's response! References: <20020802135000.61120.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That and the one of me using a micrometer and magnifying glass to measure Tom's ... well ... uh ... Tom Gimer wrote: > --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > >> >>I must have proof. Like Dan said, nude pics are a MUST. >>How else are we to >>know. We did the same thing for Tom and Chuck. >> > > the one of me spanking chuck's bare bottom with the sporty > tassles as he's bent over the tire changer is friggin > hilarious.... > > > > -- > tg > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better > http://health.yahoo.com > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 13:57:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72HvRZ4000864; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:57:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72HvRGe000860; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 13:57:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4AC7FF.50102@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 13:57:19 -0400 From: Chuck and Karen Pena Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Gimer CC: dan , Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) References: <20020802101216.76933.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fortunately, some of us (that's you and me, TG) are ABOVE average. Tom Gimer wrote: > --- dan wrote: > >>Wow, in one week this list has gone from dc-cycles to the >>jenn fan list. >>Jenn, you may have set record for hijacking a list serve. >> Not that I >>mind, its entertaining. >> > > not surprising. according to a recent dcc survey, despite > their big egos and macho machines, the average motorcyclist > last got laid in april, 1999. > > > > -- > tg > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better > http://health.yahoo.com > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 14:06:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72I6bZ4001098; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:06:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72I6a5c001090; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:06:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZHlLTKMFwa2JdbqYOBKSoyt2kdMWrBh00Vf0dr6JerCdHR2lhwDydwnhHN8xXTkKk= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:07:03 -0400 Message-ID: <008601c23a4f$6859acd0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3D4AC7FF.50102@ix.netcom.com> Yeah, Chuck, but I think he meant by a *woman*. That's female AND human. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck and Karen Pena [mailto:cvkgpena@XXXXXX] Fortunately, some of us (that's you and me, TG) are ABOVE average. Tom Gimer wrote: > --- dan wrote: > >>Wow, in one week this list has gone from dc-cycles to the >>jenn fan list. >>Jenn, you may have set record for hijacking a list serve. >> Not that I >>mind, its entertaining. >> > > not surprising. according to a recent dcc survey, despite > their big egos and macho machines, the average motorcyclist > last got laid in april, 1999. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 14:09:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72I9OZ4001267; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:09:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72I9O2w001263; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:09:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [66.65.117.15] From: "Pierre C" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX Subject: unbelievable Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 19:08:17 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 18:08:17.0355 (UTC) FILETIME=[93A2E9B0:01C23A4F] I decided to mount hte battery backwords today, and now the bike won't start up. The fuel injection lamp goes on and stays that way without the fuel injection pump being connected. Can yo believe that in Manhattan AMA can't find towing service for me? next time i am going to be stranded in calcutta. pierfrancesco 98vfr _________________________________________________________________ Join the world)B’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 14:15:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72IFNZ4001472; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:15:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72IFMXX001466; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:15:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4ACC28.3020902@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 14:15:04 -0400 From: Chuck and Karen Pena Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre C CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: unbelievable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pierre, I am sort of catching up in the middle of this thread (and your battery/electrical woes). I will bet dollars to doughnuts that your problem is your regulator/rectifier. Somewhat "common" on VFRs. I had one go bad on my FZR. Screws up your charging and whole electrical system. Battery will drain itself dry to the point of being fried and won't re-charge. You're also likely to blow out all sorts of bulbs. Not catastrophic. At least on my FZR, the regulator/rectifier is pretty much a plug-n-play item. I would think it would be similar for your VFR. Seems likely that you need to replace the regulator/rectifier and probably install a new battery. Not too difficult (and shouldn't be too expensive either). Hope this helps. Chuck Pierre C wrote: > I decided to mount hte battery backwords today, and now the bike won't > start up. The fuel injection lamp goes on and stays that way without > the fuel injection pump being connected. > > Can yo believe that in Manhattan AMA can't find towing service for me? > next time i am going to be stranded in calcutta. > pierfrancesco > 98vfr > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 14:16:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72IGLZ4001645; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:16:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72IGKik001634; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:16:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4ACC6F.1050904@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 14:16:15 -0400 From: Chuck and Karen Pena Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jmstrang@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) References: <008601c23a4f$6859acd0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So me and Tom and the tire changer doesn't count then??? No goats either??? Damn. Jon Strang wrote: > Yeah, Chuck, but I think he meant by a *woman*. > > That's female AND human. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 14:21:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72ILQZ4001836; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:21:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72ILP4O001829; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:21:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVb2EXXu4B38zhnWIN0wvaoohPJdjaePPDhts7NEiaJzgAC9nVkpIwvY9uzwgLH7WEU= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "'Pierre C'" , Subject: RE: unbelievable Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:21:55 -0400 Message-ID: <008b01c23a51$7c0d3ec0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Pierre, I'm confused. Did you say that you hooked the positive cable to the negative terminal and the negative cable to the positive terminal of the battery? That would not be a good thing on any vehicle I've owned. --jon -----Original Message----- From: Pierre C [mailto:piffiffi@XXXXXX] I decided to mount hte battery backwords today, and now the bike won't start up. The fuel injection lamp goes on and stays that way without the fuel injection pump being connected. Can yo believe that in Manhattan AMA can't find towing service for me? next time i am going to be stranded in calcutta. pierfrancesco 98vfr _________________________________________________________________ Join the world)B’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 14:22:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72IMRZ4001994; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:22:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72IMR3n001989; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:22:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4ACDDA.7060809@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 14:22:18 -0400 From: Chuck and Karen Pena Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: im not a man! and dan's response! References: <168.11800777.2a7b5bf1@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jenn, You can get your chance to prove to everyone that you're not a man by showing up in person to the next Bike Night (I'm sure all the single guys will be lining up for signed pics). Still working with Mark Kitchell to set it up. It'll be sometime this month (probably later) on a Sunday evening at CarPool in Arlington, VA. As soon as we have everything nailed down, all the info will be on the website http://www.geocities.com/bikenight. Chuck Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > Jenn writes: > im not a man! sigh..... if pictures are needed as proof --- email me and ill > > send you a link to my snapfish.com photos :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 14:23:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72INlZ4002267; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:23:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72INkTc002260; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:23:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020802182344.23760.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:23:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: unbelievable To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX, Pierre C Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3D4ACC28.3020902@ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sounds like to me he has already done that from yesterday's post and now if he has indeed hooked the positive and negative backwards might have caused some serious damage to other parts of the electical system including the fuel injection. Glenn --- Chuck and Karen Pena wrote: > Pierre, > > I am sort of catching up in the middle of this > thread (and your > battery/electrical woes). I will bet dollars to > doughnuts that your > problem is your regulator/rectifier. Somewhat > "common" on VFRs. I had > one go bad on my FZR. Screws up your charging and > whole electrical > system. Battery will drain itself dry to the point > of being fried and > won't re-charge. You're also likely to blow out all > sorts of bulbs. > Not catastrophic. At least on my FZR, the > regulator/rectifier is pretty > much a plug-n-play item. I would think it would be > similar for your > VFR. Seems likely that you need to replace the > regulator/rectifier and > probably install a new battery. Not too difficult > (and shouldn't be too > expensive either). Hope this helps. > > Chuck > > Pierre C wrote: > > > I decided to mount hte battery backwords today, > and now the bike won't > > start up. The fuel injection lamp goes on and > stays that way without > > the fuel injection pump being connected. > > > > Can yo believe that in Manhattan AMA can't find > towing service for me? > > next time i am going to be stranded in calcutta. > > pierfrancesco > > 98vfr > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN > Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 14:33:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72IXbZ4002658; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:33:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72IXb1d002653; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:33:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4AD076.9050505@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 14:33:26 -0400 From: Chuck and Karen Pena Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Dysart CC: Pierre C , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: unbelievable References: <20020802182344.23760.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's what happens when you jump into the middle of a thread. No idea what transpired before. Not sure what Pierre meant by mounting his battery "backwards." Don't know if he just means how it's oriented in the battery compartment or if he wired it "backwards", i.e., negative to positive and positive to negative. That would definitely be bad. But if he's got it wired backwards, none of his electrics (including warning lights) should come on. Need more details. Just sounds too weird. Electrical gremlins are the worst. Glenn Dysart wrote: > Sounds like to me he has already done that from > yesterday's post and now if he has indeed hooked the > positive and negative backwards might have caused some > serious damage to other parts of the electical system > including the fuel injection. > > Glenn From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 14:41:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72IfdZ4002980; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:41:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72IfZoO002968; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:41:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [66.65.117.15] From: "Pierre C" To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX, glenn_dysart@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: unbelievable Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 19:40:28 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 18:40:29.0053 (UTC) FILETIME=[1304A2D0:01C23A54] Sorry for my bad english. I mounted the battery with the negative pole attached to the postivie on my bike and vice versa. I turned up the keys: the lights won't turn on, but the clock and the dashboard lights will go on. As my bike is fuel injected, the light of the fuel injections turns on as well, but it doesn't turn off as it should. Basically the fuel injection is dead, or it won't get started anyway. the bike cranks up otherwise. Anyway, i was just wondering how many hours it takes to find towing in manhattan. Is this wyoming? >From: Chuck and Karen Pena >Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX >To: Glenn Dysart >CC: Pierre C , dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: unbelievable >Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 14:33:26 -0400 > >That's what happens when you jump into the middle of a thread. No idea >what transpired before. Not sure what Pierre meant by mounting his battery >"backwards." Don't know if he just means how it's oriented in the battery >compartment or if he wired it "backwards", i.e., negative to positive and >positive to negative. That would definitely be bad. But if he's got it >wired backwards, none of his electrics (including warning lights) should >come on. Need more details. Just sounds too weird. Electrical gremlins >are the worst. > >Glenn Dysart wrote: > >>Sounds like to me he has already done that from >>yesterday's post and now if he has indeed hooked the >>positive and negative backwards might have caused some >>serious damage to other parts of the electical system >>including the fuel injection. >> >>Glenn _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 14:43:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72IhIZ4003242; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:43:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72IhHMf003236; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:43:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020802184315.15945.qmail@web11502.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:43:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: unbelievable To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Cc: Pierre C , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3D4AD076.9050505@ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yesterday he said that his regulator took a poop so I ass-u-me that he replaced it. And judging from his current e-mail I'm thinking he put the battery in the wrong way i.e. neg-pos & pos-neg, and when nothing lit up, flipped it back around and is now getting the various idiots lights on the panel. Glenn --- Chuck and Karen Pena wrote: > That's what happens when you jump into the middle of > a thread. No idea > what transpired before. Not sure what Pierre meant > by mounting his > battery "backwards." Don't know if he just means > how it's oriented in > the battery compartment or if he wired it > "backwards", i.e., negative to > positive and positive to negative. That would > definitely be bad. But > if he's got it wired backwards, none of his > electrics (including warning > lights) should come on. Need more details. Just > sounds too weird. > Electrical gremlins are the worst. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 14:45:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72IjTZ4003414; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:45:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72IjSll003409; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:45:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <49.21680084.2a7c2d3d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:45:17 EDT Subject: Re: unbelievable To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/2/2002 2:33:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cvkgpena@XXXXXX writes: > But > if he's got it wired backwards, none of his electrics (including warning > lights) should come on. Lights do not give a hoot which way the current flows, unfortunately that is not true of most of the other electrical shituff on a bike. Here is hoping for circuit breakers, and/or fuses blown. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 14:50:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72IopZ4003787; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:50:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72IopFE003782; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:50:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [66.65.117.15] From: "Pierre C" To: glenn_dysart@XXXXXX, cvkgpena@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: unbelievable Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 19:50:43 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 18:50:44.0089 (UTC) FILETIME=[819BAE90:01C23A55] Thanks for the replies. Sorry i was so unclear and confusing. I mounted the positive pole of my battery to the negative on my bike and viceversa. I realized this just because the fuel injection light didn't turn on. I remounted the battery in the correct way, and i see the my headlighs aren't turning on, and that's the only evident thing. The fuel injection light goes on, the bike cranks, but it won't start, because the FI light doesn't switch off. I don't know if this is clear. Basically you guys hopefully will take this as a lesson and never mount your battery thining about beautiful legs, the lack of a job, or other things. Just concentrate on that one easy task, and you won't find yourself waiting for 4 hours in MANHATTAN for tow service. My regulator in fact is fine. I tested the bike's voltage with a brand new regulator and the voltage was exactly the same. I am going to tow my bike to an exhorcist perhaps instead than a mechanic. >From: Glenn Dysart >To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX >CC: Pierre C , dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: unbelievable >Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:43:15 -0700 (PDT) > >Yesterday he said that his regulator took a poop so I >ass-u-me that he replaced it. And judging from his >current e-mail I'm thinking he put the battery in the >wrong way i.e. neg-pos & pos-neg, and when nothing lit >up, flipped it back around and is now getting the >various idiots lights on the panel. > >Glenn > > >--- Chuck and Karen Pena >wrote: > > That's what happens when you jump into the middle of > > a thread. No idea > > what transpired before. Not sure what Pierre meant > > by mounting his > > battery "backwards." Don't know if he just means > > how it's oriented in > > the battery compartment or if he wired it > > "backwards", i.e., negative to > > positive and positive to negative. That would > > definitely be bad. But > > if he's got it wired backwards, none of his > > electrics (including warning > > lights) should come on. Need more details. Just > > sounds too weird. > > Electrical gremlins are the worst. > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better >http://health.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 14:53:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72Ir5Z4004078; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:53:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72Ir5rD004070; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:53:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [66.65.117.15] From: "Pierre C" To: jmstrang@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: unbelievable Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 19:52:58 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 18:52:59.0028 (UTC) FILETIME=[D209BD40:01C23A55] I am so sorry i wasn't clearer from the beginning, yes, negative cable on positive and viceversa. Fuses are fine, bike cranks, clock is on, everything works except headlights and fuel injection. The towing service is  >From: "Jon Strang" >Reply-To: >To: "'Pierre C'" , >Subject: RE: unbelievable >Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:21:55 -0400 > >Pierre, I'm confused. Did you say that you hooked the positive cable to >the >negative terminal and the negative cable to the positive terminal of the >battery? > >That would not be a good thing on any vehicle I've owned. > >--jon > >-----Original Message----- >From: Pierre C [mailto:piffiffi@XXXXXX] > > >I decided to mount hte battery backwords today, and now the bike won't >start >up. The fuel injection lamp goes on and stays that way without the fuel >injection pump being connected. > >Can yo believe that in Manhattan AMA can't find towing service for me? next >time i am going to be stranded in calcutta. >pierfrancesco >98vfr > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world)B’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 14:54:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72IsFZ4004378; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:54:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72IsFWl004372; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:54:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4AD54A.3030409@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 14:54:02 -0400 From: Chuck and Karen Pena Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre C CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: unbelievable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pierre, 6 words ... May the force be with you. Pierre C wrote: > Thanks for the replies. Sorry i was so unclear and confusing. I > mounted the positive pole of my battery to the negative on my bike and > viceversa. I realized this just because the fuel injection light didn't > turn on. I remounted the battery in the correct way, and i see the my > headlighs aren't turning on, and that's the only evident thing. The > fuel injection light goes on, the bike cranks, but it won't start, > because the FI light doesn't switch off. I don't know if this is > clear. Basically you guys hopefully will take this as a lesson and > never mount your battery thining about beautiful legs, the lack of a > job, or other things. Just concentrate on that one easy task, and you > won't find yourself waiting for 4 hours in MANHATTAN for tow service. > > My regulator in fact is fine. I tested the bike's voltage with a brand > new regulator and the voltage was exactly the same. I am going to tow > my bike to an exhorcist perhaps instead than a mechanic. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 15:00:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72J0HZ4005042; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:00:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72J0HQc005037; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:00:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020802145810.00d6d088@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 15:01:40 -0400 To: dccycles From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: im not a man! and dan's response! In-Reply-To: <3D4AC759.1020003@ix.netcom.com> References: <20020802135000.61120.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:54 PM 8/2/2002 -0400, Chuck and Karen Pena wrote: >That and the one of me using a micrometer and magnifying glass to measure >Tom's ... well ... uh ... Given his vocation, "heart"? >Tom Gimer wrote: > >>the one of me spanking chuck's bare bottom with the sporty >>tassles as he's bent over the tire changer is friggin >>hilarious.... Ah, now I'm starting to understand what "pro bono" really means. 8;) -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 15:01:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72J1OZ4005362; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:01:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72J1OxG005355; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:01:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020802150204.00d6d788@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 15:02:47 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: who's who? (was Weekend ride (was im new!)) In-Reply-To: <3D4AC7FF.50102@ix.netcom.com> References: <20020802101216.76933.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:57 PM 8/2/2002 -0400, Chuck and Karen Pena wrote: >Fortunately, some of us (that's you and me, TG) are ABOVE average. That's funny -- you don't *look* Norwegian. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 15:06:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72J6XZ4005892; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:06:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72J6XC6005884; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:06:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: Han Park To: "'DCCycles'" Subject: Summit Point Track Day Monday Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:06:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sorry if this comes up twice, but I've been having trouble posting messages. Is anyone going to the Champion Sports Track Day this coming Monday? I don't have my hitch and trailer set up yet and would like to have someone bring a cooler and gas can for me (the cooler being more important). han From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 15:06:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72J6jZ4006073; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:06:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72J6i6b006064; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:06:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYvXDC0cJw6RqrkkaJcG21DFjpSlz4BiJuia3MUewiMYRwc/Y1zaCSDOWwwYn2XCo8= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "'Pierre C'" , "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: unbelievable Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:07:14 -0400 Message-ID: <009d01c23a57$d0d7bb00$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Pierre, my condolences. Electrically connecting the battery backwards can cause an electrical nightmare. If you are lucky, you will have to replace fuses and/or reset circuit breakers. If you are unlucky, you are replacing electrical components. I'm hoping that there's a ckt breaker to reset on the FI and/or it's controlling cktry, and once reset your bike will run. As for the other gremlins (i.e. won't charge), I'm sure they've been angered. --jon ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 15:21:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72JLFZ4006911; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:21:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72JLFkd006906; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:21:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00f001c23a5a$6dab3680$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Pierre C" , "dc-cycles list" References: Subject: Re: unbelievable Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:25:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 From: "Pierre C" ... > remounted the battery in the correct way, and i see the my headlighs aren't > turning on, and that's the only evident thing. The fuel injection light > goes on, the bike cranks, but it won't start, because the FI light doesn't > switch off. I don't know if this is clear. Basically you guys hopefully > will take this as a lesson and never mount your battery thining about > beautiful legs, the lack of a job, or other things. Just concentrate on > that one easy task, and you won't find yourself waiting for 4 hours in > MANHATTAN for tow service. > No doubt Pierre was distracted after reading this morning's spicy emails on DC-Cycles. Getting back to the matter at hand, it's a bit hard to diagnose via email, but that's never stopped me before. :) I'd take the negative strap off and then reattach it, allowing all the on-board idiot boxes, including the EFI module, to "reboot" and then try it again. I've come close to doing this too. For once I was glad Honda uses very short leads on the battery terminals. Another little tip, always attach the positive first and the negative last. That way you won't short out the battery should your wrench, wrench + wedding ring, etc., make contact with the frame while you're tightening the positive terminal. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 15:31:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72JVaZ4007353; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:31:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72JVa5p007349; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:31:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4ADE15.6080507@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 15:31:33 -0400 From: Chuck and Karen Pena Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Wilson CC: dc-cycles list Subject: Re: unbelievable References: <00f001c23a5a$6dab3680$bb82fea9@palladio1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That would be when sparks fly, right??? Been there, done that. Paul Wilson wrote: > > negative last. That way you won't short out the battery should your wrench, > wrench + wedding ring, etc., make contact with the frame while you're > tightening the positive terminal. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 15:33:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72JXdZ4007672; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:33:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72JXcKm007665; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:33:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802153113.0223c568@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 15:33:30 -0400 To: dc-cycles From: Aki Damme Subject: Hells Fire!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed It is now officially 102F in Herndon...down in Centreville it was reported to be 107F !!!!! Thank gawd I'm a careless, shortie helmet wearing, Harley t-shirt adorned Harley rider! I would spontaneously combust all trussed up like a Ricky Rocket Racer! 8-P -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 15:44:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72Ji8Z4008267; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:44:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72Ji766008262; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:44:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020802194405.21340.qmail@web20109.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:44:05 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: Hells Fire!!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802153113.0223c568@pop.east.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Harley rider! I would spontaneously combust all trussed up like a > Ricky Rocket > Racer! oh ha, ha. Granted I'm wearing my Reactor jacket and Phoenix pants but I'm somehow not combusting in the middle of Herndon... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 15:47:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72Jl0Z4008692; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:47:00 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72Jkx4W008681; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:46:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802154538.02252af8@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 15:46:51 -0400 To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Hells Fire!!! In-Reply-To: <20020802194405.21340.qmail@web20109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802153113.0223c568@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:44 PM 8/2/2002 -0700, matthew patton wrote: > > Harley rider! I would spontaneously combust all trussed up like a > > Ricky Rocket > > Racer! > >oh ha, ha. Granted I'm wearing my Reactor jacket and Phoenix pants but >I'm somehow not combusting in the middle of Herndon... pretty soon we'll see everyone wearing a Camelback just to get to/from work! jeez..heat is one thing..I *love* summer, but this is getting a little carried away IMHO. It's the stop lights that will bake ya. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 15:53:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72JrTZ4009130; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:53:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72JrSbr009125; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:53:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020802154854.00d8d008@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 15:54:46 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Hells Fire!!! In-Reply-To: <20020802194405.21340.qmail@web20109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802153113.0223c568@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:44 PM 8/2/2002 -0700, matthew patton wrote: > > Harley rider! I would spontaneously combust all trussed up like a > > Ricky Rocket Racer! > >oh ha, ha. Granted I'm wearing my Reactor jacket and Phoenix pants but >I'm somehow not combusting in the middle of Herndon... Just keep riding -- Ricky Rocket Racers roast in Reston. Harry Harley hayseeds and happy Honda hasten high heat in Herndon. (Sorry...it's too damn hot in Alexandria, too) -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 15:55:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72JtcZ4009547; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:55:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72Jtbus009542; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:55:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020802195531.46382.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:55:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: im not a man! and dan's response! To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Cc: Ricardo Pontes , dccycles , Jennthebiker@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3D4AC759.1020003@ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii that's certainly the last time i allow anybody to inspect and measure my dingleberries. what the hell did you plan on doing with that information anyway? -- tg --- Chuck and Karen Pena wrote: > That and the one of me using a micrometer and magnifying > glass to > measure Tom's ... well ... uh ... > > Tom Gimer wrote: > > > --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > > >> > >>I must have proof. Like Dan said, nude pics are a MUST. > >>How else are we to > >>know. We did the same thing for Tom and Chuck. > >> > > > > the one of me spanking chuck's bare bottom with the > sporty > > tassles as he's bent over the tire changer is friggin > > hilarious.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 15:56:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72Ju7Z4009838; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:56:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72Ju7la009832; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:56:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802155506.02238448@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 15:55:54 -0400 To: Larry Larson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Hells Fire!!! In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020802154854.00d8d008@mail.9netave.com> References: <20020802194405.21340.qmail@web20109.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020802153113.0223c568@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:54 PM 8/2/2002 -0400, Larry Larson wrote: >At 12:44 PM 8/2/2002 -0700, matthew patton wrote: >> > Harley rider! I would spontaneously combust all trussed up like a >> > Ricky Rocket Racer! >> >>oh ha, ha. Granted I'm wearing my Reactor jacket and Phoenix pants but >>I'm somehow not combusting in the middle of Herndon... > >Just keep riding -- Ricky Rocket Racers roast in Reston. > >Harry Harley hayseeds and happy Honda hasten high heat in Herndon. > >(Sorry...it's too damn hot in Alexandria, too) -- Larry yesh...one hundred and ONE things -dc-cycles isn't home to POETS! ;-) here's some sample temps as reported by the NWS around the area: Centreville HS - 107 Herndon MS: 99 Lees Corner Fairfax: 100 Loudon Campus NOVA: 102 USGS Reston: 103 GWU: 101 Nottingham Elem Sch. Arlington: 102 Nat Cathedral School: 104 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 16:02:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72K2KZ4010400; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:02:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72K2K5h010396; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:02:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" To: "'Aki Damme'" , dc-cycles Subject: RE: Hells Fire!!! Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:02:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain Don't you Hardley Ableson riders just roll up the windows and turn on the A/c in the truck you're towing it with. LOL j/k : ) -----Original Message----- From: Aki Damme [mailto:adamme1@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 3:34 PM To: dc-cycles Subject: Hells Fire!!! It is now officially 102F in Herndon...down in Centreville it was reported to be 107F !!!!! Thank gawd I'm a careless, shortie helmet wearing, Harley t-shirt adorned Harley rider! I would spontaneously combust all trussed up like a Ricky Rocket Racer! 8-P -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 16:07:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72K77Z4010943; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:07:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72K76mp010934; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:07:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802160512.022585b0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 16:06:58 -0400 To: dc-cycles From: Aki Damme Subject: RE: Hells Fire!!! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:02 PM 8/2/2002 -0400, Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS) wrote: >Don't you Hardley Ableson riders just roll up the windows and turn on the >A/c in the truck you're towing it with. LOL j/k : ) well...actually that really isn't too far from the truth ...I went outside to try on my brandy new backrest for my Corbin, yelled "too hot! too hot!" and ran back inside, pulled the shades and grabbed an ice tea. But I got my riding boots on...does that count? ;-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 16:08:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72K8rZ4011341; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:08:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72K8q4i011335; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:08:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYWuddX9TNG2MpCKfjsPkoDS6Cso+9VotE/YDIB8IpeaZz1yhzyfFYa2aG1wfXRezg= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Hells Fire!!! Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:08:43 -0400 Message-ID: <00ae01c23a60$7e497550$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: I think it would be more correct to call him an "alliterate". --jon -----Aki Damme wrote: > >Ricky Rocket Racers roast in Reston. > >Harry Harley hayseeds and happy Honda hasten high heat in Herndon. > yesh...one hundred and ONE things -dc-cycles isn't home to POETS! ;-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 16:15:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72KFMZ4011793; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:15:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72KFLbX011786; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:15:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802161406.0225ee08@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 16:15:13 -0400 To: , "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" From: Aki Damme Subject: RE: Hells Fire!!! In-Reply-To: <00ae01c23a60$7e497550$070312ac@ddlomni.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:08 PM 8/2/2002 -0400, Jon Strang wrote: >I think it would be more correct to call him an "alliterate". > >--jon pretty big words for a biker! Better watch it or people will start to think we actually..uh, think or somethin'..... what were we talking about? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 16:17:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72KHqZ4012210; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:17:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72KHqGJ012202; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:17:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 2 Aug 2002 20:17:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20020802201750.5740.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: im not a man! and dan X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) Gimer shakes his head ruefully while typing: >that's certainly the last time i allow anybody to inspect >and measure my dingleberries. what the hell did you plan >on doing with that information anyway? [Dave] maybe he was getting chafed ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 16:24:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72KOYZ4012669; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:24:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72KOXZo012664; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:24:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4AEBD3.82CB9056@patriot.net> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 16:30:11 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aki Damme CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Hells Fire!!! References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802153113.0223c568@pop.east.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aki Damme wrote: > > It is now officially 102F in Herndon...down in Centreville it was > reported to be 107F !!!!! > > Thank gawd I'm a careless, shortie helmet wearing, Harley t-shirt adorned > Harley rider! I would spontaneously combust all trussed up like a Ricky Rocket > Racer! I was in Fairfax - ventilated black leather jacket, Shoei RF-800, gloves, jeans, boots, and had one of them Hot Harleys betwixt me legs. No combustion here, but then I had years of childhood training in the hot & humid coastal swamps. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 16:29:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72KTBZ4013143; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:29:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72KTBmv013137; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:29:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802162644.02257090@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 16:29:03 -0400 To: dc-cycles From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Hells Fire!!! In-Reply-To: <3D4AEBD3.82CB9056@patriot.net> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802153113.0223c568@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:30 PM 8/2/2002 -0400, William J. Huson wrote: >Aki Damme wrote: > > > > > It is now officially 102F in Herndon...down in Centreville it was > > reported to be 107F !!!!! > > > > Thank gawd I'm a careless, shortie helmet wearing, Harley t-shirt adorned > > Harley rider! I would spontaneously combust all trussed up like a > Ricky Rocket > > Racer! > >I was in Fairfax - ventilated black leather jacket, Shoei RF-800, gloves, >jeans, >boots, and had one of them Hot Harleys betwixt me legs. No combustion >here, but >then I had years of childhood training in the hot & humid coastal swamps. > >Bill ..actually I got one of them ventilated jackets (from Draggin Jeans) and it works great.. *as long as you're moving*...come to a stop light and POOF! Up in flames I am. I also wear gloves, jeans, boots but the full face, (I have an X9 Air), I reserve for super slabbing or winter weather riding. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 16:51:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72KpeZ4013699; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:51:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72KpeYA013694; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:51:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.20020802165217.04a7e1d8@noid.org> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 16:52:49 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: Hells Fire!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:46 PM 8/2/02 -0400, Aki Damme wrote: >At 12:44 PM 8/2/2002 -0700, matthew patton wrote: >> > Harley rider! I would spontaneously combust all trussed up like a >> > Ricky Rocket >> > Racer! >> >>oh ha, ha. Granted I'm wearing my Reactor jacket and Phoenix pants but >>I'm somehow not combusting in the middle of Herndon... > > >pretty soon we'll see everyone wearing a Camelback just to get to/from work! > >jeez..heat is one thing..I *love* summer, but this is getting a little >carried away IMHO. > >It's the stop lights that will bake ya. Just rode home from the 270/495 split. It's DAMN hot out there. I skipped my leather pants today... perf'd leather jacket, gloves, boots, jeans and helmet. I'm still sweating inside my 68 deg house! -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 17:01:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72L1fZ4014171; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:01:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72L1fs3014163; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:01:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Jim McGonigle" To: Subject: RE: Hells Fire!!! Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:01:09 -0400 Organization: BroadSoft Message-ID: <00df01c23a67$bcf12d00$4b01a8c0@jmcgonigle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20020802165217.04a7e1d8@noid.org> I'm about to brave it. If I can only make it through the first 3 busy lights... Boots, Jeans, Perf'd jacket, gloves, full helmet. Think cool... > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Edelen [mailto:wayne@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 4:53 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Hells Fire!!! > > > At 03:46 PM 8/2/02 -0400, Aki Damme wrote: > >At 12:44 PM 8/2/2002 -0700, matthew patton wrote: > >> > Harley rider! I would spontaneously combust all trussed > up like a > >> > Ricky Rocket > >> > Racer! > >> > >>oh ha, ha. Granted I'm wearing my Reactor jacket and > Phoenix pants but > >>I'm somehow not combusting in the middle of Herndon... > > > > > >pretty soon we'll see everyone wearing a Camelback just to > get to/from work! > > > >jeez..heat is one thing..I *love* summer, but this is > getting a little > >carried away IMHO. > > > >It's the stop lights that will bake ya. > > Just rode home from the 270/495 split. It's DAMN hot out > there. I skipped > my leather pants today... perf'd leather jacket, gloves, > boots, jeans and > helmet. I'm still sweating inside my 68 deg house! > > -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 17:11:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72LBAZ4014649; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:11:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72LB97M014640; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:11:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4AF560.9030800@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 17:10:56 -0400 From: Chuck and Karen Pena Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Gimer CC: dccycles , Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Subject: Re: im not a man! and dan's response! References: <20020802195531.46382.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was planning on submitting it to the Guiness Book of World Records. Tom Gimer wrote: > that's certainly the last time i allow anybody to inspect > and measure my dingleberries. what the hell did you plan > on doing with that information anyway? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 17:27:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72LR8Z4015121; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:27:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72LR7VH015116; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:27:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <028c01c23a6b$fcc6e4c0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: References: <00df01c23a67$bcf12d00$4b01a8c0@jmcgonigle> Subject: Re: Hells Fire!!! Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 17:30:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim McGonigle" > > I'm about to brave it. If I can only make it through the first 3 busy > lights... Boots, Jeans, Perf'd jacket, gloves, full helmet. > > Think cool... > The patron saint of motorcyclists must have been watching me on Monday. I rode from my office in Old Town Alex. to my house on Capitol Hill without putting my feet down. That means making every light in Old Town, having no stop'n'go back-ups on the 14th St. bridge and making every light on the Hill. It was one for the record books and very welcome in the 95-degree heat. I'm about to don the cordura and wrap my legs around a hot engine so I'm hoping for a repeat. The worst is getting caught by a coal train on the GW Pkwy. PS: There are no stop signs on my route and I didn't shoulder run or lane split. Honest. :) Paul in DC 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 19:16:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72NG5Z4016352; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:16:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72NG4Cj016343; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:16:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Scott R. Russell" To: Subject: A few things Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:00:10 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3D4ACDDA.7060809@ix.netcom.com> Is the bike night web page not working? Every time I click on it I just get a white page and nothing else. I am computer literate except for programming, and I am not going to mess with that anymore. BTW, out of work EMT and Administrative Asst., general paper pusher here. If you know of any such jobs, feel free to email me. It is fun sitting around the house, but I have bills to pay too. Thanks for any help you all can give me. On a second note, I have a pic of Jenn the biker. Was going to meet up with her tonight but with the rain coming in and my Monster.com needed some typing to get my resume in, I thought it would be wise to stay home. I will be riding out Rt 450 to Crownsville, MD tomorrow to the Renaissance Festival, have to practice for the start of the festival on the 24th. Will probably stay out and ride in the evening, weather permitting. Scott Russell 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 19:18:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72NIbZ4016750; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:18:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72NIaAd016744; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:18:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Sent: 2 Aug 2002 23:18:25 GMT Message-ID: <000a01c23a7c$c3cc5860$f14efea9@dccracing.org> From: "Laura Granato" To: , , References: Subject: Re: DC-Cycles name change. Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:31:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 > By the way, when is the next singles, I mean cycles get together so I can > plan ahead. > > Scott Russell > 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S Be careful. DC Cycles is not for the weak...you will wind up married if you stay on this list! :) LAG From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 19:38:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72NcsZ4017236; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:38:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72NcrfZ017231; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:38:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Scott R. Russell" To: "Laura Granato" , , Subject: RE: DC-Cycles name change. Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:22:35 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000a01c23a7c$c3cc5860$f14efea9@dccracing.org> You say this by experience? Are you married or single? Scott Russell 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S -----Original Message----- From: Laura Granato [mailto:lgranato@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 7:32 PM To: MacDa@XXXXXX; jmstrang@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC-Cycles name change. > By the way, when is the next singles, I mean cycles get together so I can > plan ahead. > > Scott Russell > 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S Be careful. DC Cycles is not for the weak...you will wind up married if you stay on this list! :) LAG From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 19:46:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72NkDZ4017806; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:46:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72NkDfI017800; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:46:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Sent: 2 Aug 2002 23:46:04 GMT Message-ID: <003401c23a80$a06cb960$f14efea9@dccracing.org> From: "Laura Granato" To: , , References: Subject: Re: DC-Cycles name change. Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:59:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 > You say this by experience? Are you married or single? > > Scott Russell > 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S > well, yes, I do say this from experience. I was single until I went to a DC Cycles bike night in July 2000. That is where I met Brian Roach, who is now my fiance. We're getting married May 3, 2003. :) Also, Jeannette and Tom met on DC cycles and are now married. Aren't there some others who this happened to? LAG Aprilia RS250 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 19:49:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72NnSZ4018206; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:49:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72NnSKd018202; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:49:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [216.165.4.206] From: "Pierre C" To: nyc-moto@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX Subject: thanks to all Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 00:49:18 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2002 23:49:19.0129 (UTC) FILETIME=[37CDD890:01C23A7F] I would like to thank everyone who emailed me, offered help, offered come to pick me up from DC, came all the way from Brooklyn so that i could install their Reg/Rec, gave me reference to local mechanics. Thank you very much everyone! It was only a blown fuse, it finally came to light. My undercharging problem stays, but i will live with it. Thank you so very much to everyone. Pierfrancesco 98VFR (was stranded shortly in NY) >From: nyc-moto-digest-owner@XXXXXX (NYC-Moto) >Reply-To: nyc-moto@XXXXXX >To: nyc-moto-digest@XXXXXX >Subject: NYC-Moto V2002 #179 >Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:01:01 -0400 (EDT) > >NYC-Moto Friday, August 2 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 179 > > > > ***** ***** > * * * * * > * * * * * > * * * * * * > * * * * * * > * * * * * * > * * * * ** ** > * * * * **** * * > *** * * * *** ** * * **** > * ****** ** ** > NEW YORK CITY MOTORCYCLES MAILING LIST > http://www.magpie.com/nycmoto > >In this issue: > > once again, mechanics (was stranded in NY) > My bike died in NYC > VFR no volts > Saturday Big Traile III Ride > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: 1 Aug 2002 14:15:07 -0700 >From: Eric Grant >Subject: once again, mechanics (was stranded in NY) > >Every time I've taken my ride to Francisco at Power Cycle, he instantly >knows what's wrong or zeros in on two or three possibilities. Then he >passes it off to an underling who fixes the problem - and inevitable >creates another one. >The last time, it was stripping the bolt when putting on a new cylinder >head (now it needs to be bored out). >On the plus side, he's very good about fixing his errors for free or cheap. > >- - Eric >1978 BMW R100/7 > > > > >- ------------------------------------------------------------- >Sign up for ICQmail at http://www.icq.com/icqmail/signup.html > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 17:28:15 -0400 >From: docgonzo >Subject: My bike died in NYC > >Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 05:05:47 +0100 >From: "Pierre C" >Subject: Stranded in NY: Recommend a mechanic please! > >"My bike gave up. Obviously it's the charging system. The heat made it >extremely lazy, and now it charges below 12 V....snip..." > >Electrical problems are almost always the stupid battery in modern >bikes. Yes, I know you have a volt meter. Yes, I know you know about >rectifiers and regulators and alternators and connections, etc. > >Just go and get yourself a new battery. 9 times out of 10, that's all >you need for a 4 year old bike. > >Bet that solves your problems. >- -- >barry (DocGonzo) >http://home.earthlink.net/~docgonzo44/bikepics/rossireplica.jpg > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:36:37 -0700 (PDT) >From: Armen Amirian >Subject: VFR no volts > >Many complaints about the VFR charging system. Honda >now has the new new new inproved regulator rectifier >they offer. The true faithful carry a sixpack of them >even for a trip to the corner store. >WIth a permanent magnet alternaotr, check the ac >output out of the stator leads (should be dozens of >volts). Then check the rec/reg with a diode check >meter as per the manual. >SHoot a note if I can help. > > >===== >Armen Amirian, Instructor >Knowhow Workshop Motorcycle Maintenance Classes > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better >http://health.yahoo.com > >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:44:51 -0700 (PDT) >From: Walter Barlow >Subject: Saturday Big Traile III Ride > >We'll be doing a ride, which is probably not suitable >for regular street bikes, Saturday 8/3, leaving from >the Dunkin Donuts at 375 STATE ROUTE 10, RANDOLPH NJ, >at 10AM. > >regards, >Walter Barlow > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better >http://health.yahoo.com > >------------------------------ > >End of NYC-Moto V2002 #179 >************************** > >Post messages to : nyc-moto@XXXXXX >For administrative stuff : majordomo@XXXXXX >NYC Motorcyclists URL : http://www.magpie.com/nycmoto >NYC Motorcyclists FAQ : >http://www.magpie.com/nycmoto/NYC-Moto-FAQ.html >MAGPIE mailing list FAQ : http://www.magpie.com/digest.faq.html > >To get help, subscribe or unsubscribe to the digest, send a message to >majordomo@XXXXXX with the following text (as applicable): > > help > info nyc-moto-digest > subscribe nyc-moto-digest > unsubscribe nyc-moto-digest > >To UNSUBSCRIBE from the NYC-Moto digest, send mail to majordomo@XXXXXX >with the following in the message body: > > unsubscribe nyc-moto-digest > > The content of the NYC Motorcycles Digest is copyrighted. It may > not be reproduced or reprinted in any form without the expressed > written consent of Steve Manes. Opinions are those of the author > alone and in no way represent the opinion of management of this > digest. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 19:57:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g72NvNZ4018644; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:57:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g72NvMWg018638; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:57:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Scott R. Russell" To: "Laura Granato" , , Subject: RE: DC-Cycles name change. Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 19:41:00 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003401c23a80$a06cb960$f14efea9@dccracing.org> So many messages, so little time. Congratulations and good luck.. -----Original Message----- From: Laura Granato [mailto:lgranato@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 7:59 PM To: MacDa@XXXXXX; jmstrang@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC-Cycles name change. > You say this by experience? Are you married or single? > > Scott Russell > 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S > well, yes, I do say this from experience. I was single until I went to a DC Cycles bike night in July 2000. That is where I met Brian Roach, who is now my fiance. We're getting married May 3, 2003. :) Also, Jeannette and Tom met on DC cycles and are now married. Aren't there some others who this happened to? LAG Aprilia RS250 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 21:57:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g731vHZ4019615; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:57:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g731vGVG019605; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:57:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.20020802215756.04a806a4@noid.org> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 21:58:28 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: A few things Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:00 PM 8/2/02 -0400, you wrote: [...] >BTW, out of work EMT and Administrative Asst., general paper pusher here. >If you know of any such jobs, feel free to email me. It is fun sitting >around the house, but I have bills to pay too. Thanks for any help you all >can give me. Good luck, Scott. Seems like lots of out work peeps in the DC area right now. >On a second note, I have a pic of Jenn the biker. Was going to meet up with >her tonight but with the rain coming in and my Monster.com needed some >typing to get my resume in, I thought it would be wise to stay home. I will >be riding out Rt 450 to Crownsville, MD tomorrow to the Renaissance >Festival, have to practice for the start of the festival on the 24th. Will >probably stay out and ride in the evening, weather permitting. Logged about 2hrs tonight on the twisties in and around Frederick. Boosa still gets good fuel economy hovering around 7-9k on the tach. 35 mpg commuting and railing on some back roads with only one trip to hyperspace mixed in this tank ;-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 2 22:55:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g732twZ4020323; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:55:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g732tt6S020307; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 22:55:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Aki Damme Cc: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hells Fire!!! Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 23:05:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802153113.0223c568@pop.east.cox.net> <20020802194405.21340.qmail@web20109.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020802154538.02252af8@pop.east.cox.net> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802154538.02252af8@pop.east.cox.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g732tsZ4020290 I was out back working on a bike.. had to push it in the shade.. and I hosed down my clothing to keep cool while i worked. worked out pretty good. On Fri, 02 Aug 2002 15:46:51 -0400, you wrote: >At 12:44 PM 8/2/2002 -0700, matthew patton wrote: >> > Harley rider! I would spontaneously combust all trussed up like a >> > Ricky Rocket >> > Racer! >> >>oh ha, ha. Granted I'm wearing my Reactor jacket and Phoenix pants but >>I'm somehow not combusting in the middle of Herndon... > > >pretty soon we'll see everyone wearing a Camelback just to get to/from work! > >jeez..heat is one thing..I *love* summer, but this is getting a little >carried away IMHO. > >It's the stop lights that will bake ya. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 3 01:03:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7353sZ4021256; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 01:03:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7353rPF021247; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 01:03:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <171.118c68c6.2a7cbe2e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 01:03:42 EDT Subject: indiana, pa To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 larry writes: If you drank enough Iron City in your college days, you know *all* the towns north of Pittsburgh. Burp. jenns response: watch it! my stepdad stocks up with Iron City at every opportunity! :) gotta love western pa! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 3 01:04:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7354sZ4021512; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 01:04:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7354stk021508; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 01:04:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <199.acbe7fe.2a7cbe70@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 01:04:48 EDT Subject: the good old days? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 witold writes: > For now, follwing the discussion on Jenn's gender will have to do... > hehehe... > what did you guys talk about before i joined the list? motorcycles or something? jtb :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 3 01:31:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g735V9Z4022026; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 01:31:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g735V8T0022018; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 01:31:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 01:30:55 EDT Subject: Did I hear someone say Bike Night? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 chuck writes: You can get your chance to prove to everyone that you're not a man by showing up in person to the next Bike Night (I'm sure all the single guys will be lining up for signed pics). Still working with Mark Kitchell to set it up. It'll be sometime this month (probably later) on a Sunday evening at CarPool in Arlington, VA. As soon as we have everything nailed down, all the info will be on the website http://www.geocities.com/bikenight. jenn responds with: incase you need help in picking a date for Bike Night -- I should be free on August 25th! also, Howard from here at good old DC-Singles, met up with me this evening and introduced me to drag racing for the very first time. so in addition to the non-nude pics that can be requested, Howard is living proof that I do exist (im not chuck!) and that I am a girl! and for the record --- Howard says my purple motorcycle is CUTE! :p to jon! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 3 07:16:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g73BGNZ4024282; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 07:16:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g73BGLNb024266; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 07:16:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4BBCD1.24BCA266@patriot.net> Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 07:21:53 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: thanks to all.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...who responded to my inquiry about swapping out diferentials in my cage, the battered Dakota p/u. I think (I hope) that the noisy limited slip problem was caused by water. Yes, water in the diff lube! No real surprise, I've buried the diffs on both my trucks in the water. Hey, nothing like running the surf line to wash off the undercarriage! I suspect this trashed the ability of the LS clutch to work properly. Cleaned out, new lube installed, fingers crossed. Moto content, getting about time to change oil in my scoot too. Lemme see, dino or synthetic? Or how about veggie based oil! Think triple virgin olive oil would work? Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 3 07:49:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g73BnCZ4024641; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 07:49:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g73BnBg3024636; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 07:49:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4BC488.ED7FE3D@patriot.net> Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 07:54:48 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: linked, integrated, anti-lock, & standard brakes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A student in my most recent BRC class was taking the class as part of his job. He works for whatever US gubmint acronym agency that regulates vehicles. This was encouraging. At least said agency wants their regulators to be somewhat familer with the vehicles they write regs for. His interest, motorcycle controls and displays. But then he dropped a heart stopper! It seems the agency (DOT?) is concerned over M/C braking systems. The concern, what if a rider who normally rides a linked/integrated/anti-lock equipped bike borrows a ride with standard brakes. Yes, the braking technique *is* different, and said rider would have to adjust. His point was valid, a switch like that could result in an unsafe situation. But I pointed out that situation was similar to the shaky few months it takes any new rider to become comfy on a particular bike. I also mentioned that if they started dicking around with mandating a particular brake system they'd better hide out in the Bush/Cheney bunker to avoid the flak. He said they weren't thinking about regulating a particular system. Has anyone made the switch, as in borrowed a bike with a strange brake system? Do you think a switch like that is a problem? Bill - likes his basic squeeze & press seperate brake system. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 3 08:06:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g73C6MZ4024971; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 08:06:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g73C6MFt024966; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 08:06:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020803120618.85491.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 05:06:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: DC-Cycles name change. To: Laura Granato , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <003401c23a80$a06cb960$f14efea9@dccracing.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii weaver and wood come to mind.... no marriage resulted, but i believe kitchell and pena sealed the deal here too -- tg --- Laura Granato wrote: > > > > You say this by experience? Are you married or single? > > > > Scott Russell > > 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S > > > well, yes, I do say this from experience. I was single > until I went to a DC > Cycles bike night in July 2000. That is where I met > Brian Roach, who is now > my fiance. We're getting married May 3, 2003. :) > > Also, Jeannette and Tom met on DC cycles and are now > married. Aren't there > some others who this happened to? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 3 08:28:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g73CStZ4025301; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 08:28:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g73CSspn025291; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 08:28:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020803122852.4337.qmail@web14611.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 05:28:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: DC-Cycles name change. To: Laura Granato , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020803120618.85491.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii that was uncalled for; and, worse, it wasn't even funny. according to section 7.1.1 of the by-laws, i am invoking the mandatory self-imposed one week send button ban. --- Tom Gimer wrote: > weaver and wood come to mind.... > > no marriage resulted, but i believe kitchell and pena > sealed the deal here too > > > -- > tg > > --- Laura Granato wrote: > > > > > > > You say this by experience? Are you married or > single? > > > > > > Scott Russell > > > 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S > > > > > well, yes, I do say this from experience. I was single > > until I went to a DC > > Cycles bike night in July 2000. That is where I met > > Brian Roach, who is now > > my fiance. We're getting married May 3, 2003. :) > > > > Also, Jeannette and Tom met on DC cycles and are now > > married. Aren't there > > some others who this happened to? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 3 10:13:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g73EDWZ4025970; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 10:13:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g73EDVH6025962; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 10:13:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4BE4FB.9000504@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 10:13:15 -0400 From: Chuck and Karen Pena Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MacDa@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: A few things References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott, Just went to the Bike Night web page http://www.geocities.com/bikenight and is working just fine. Chuck Scott R. Russell wrote: > Is the bike night web page not working? Every time I click on it I just get > a white page and nothing else. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 3 12:20:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g73GKcZ4026709; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 12:20:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g73GKbkN026700; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 12:20:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: linked, integrated, anti-lock, & standard brakes Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 12:18:39 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3D4BC488.ED7FE3D@patriot.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Well, I own a bike with ABS and two without. So far, I haven't had any problems making the switch, but the techniques are not THAT different. I just get to use more on the ABS bike and have to modulate the brakes on the non-ABS. I've voiced concern over the new BMW version of my bike that has linked, power, ABS brakes. That bike is scary and would require re-learning braking techniques. OR, just use the front brake lever ONLY. A bad thing to get used to, if you ever ride anything else. It makes me crazier when I switch from beemer to jap, that the controls are so different. Give me the jap controls anyday - they are easier. I've finally gotten so I can find the horn on the beemer and it only took 30k miles!! Arrrrrrggggghhhhh My $.02. LindaT. Custom TankBags Now - TankBags for 1800 Wings Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) AMA IBA HSTA BMWBMW 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.customtankbags.com William J. Huson asked: Has anyone made the switch, as in borrowed a bike with a strange brake system? Do you think a switch like that is a problem? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 3 20:49:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g740ndZ4029275; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 20:49:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g740nb1g029264; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 20:49:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <001001c23b50$c6b246f0$3355f4d1@michael> Reply-To: "Michael Jordan" From: "Michael Jordan" To: "DC-CYCLES" References: Subject: Re: linked, integrated, anti-lock, & standard brakes Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 20:49:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > It makes me crazier when I switch from beemer to jap, that the controls are > so different. Give me the jap controls anyday - they are easier. I've > finally gotten so I can find the horn on the beemer and it only took 30k > miles!! Ah yes - sitting on the rental R1150G/S in Milano just knowing that there had to be a starter switch somewhere near the handlebars - but not willing to immediately ask for help. Found it eventually, and I admit that it did make sense, in a germanic sort of way. Now, about the turn signals.... Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 3 20:49:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g740nhZ4029308; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 20:49:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g740nh0T029299; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 20:49:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.49.179.96] From: "Tim Spong" To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: RE: linked, integrated, anti-lock, & standard brakes Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 00:48:32 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Aug 2002 00:48:32.0715 (UTC) FILETIME=[A851C9B0:01C23B50] I must be well behind the times, I didn't even know that bikes had anti-lock brakes. I know Moto-Guzzi had a linked brake system, but I thought they were the only ones.' Oh well, seems like I have been in a time warp - The last time I was on a bike was the year the GPz 900 Ninja came out. Must have been in the late 80's. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 3 22:38:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g742cOZ4030349; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 22:38:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g742cNWj030340; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 22:38:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5ff387379f3c482ca44c95e2e7072823> X-EM-APIVersion: 2, 0, 0, 4 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: "" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: IC Light Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 22:30:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g742cLZ4030323 i think (although i'm not proud of it) i could claim the crown for consumption of IC light in a lifetime. when i was the social chairman for my fraternity in college, our average order was 15-20 kegs of IC light/weekend. when i got elected, i raised the level up to IC golden lager, but we still used IC Light as our 'quantity beer'... i hope i'm not dating myself with these brand names...... BB From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 3 22:50:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g742oqZ4030661; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 22:50:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g742oqti030656; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 22:50:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020803224545.00d36cd8@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 22:52:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: IC Light In-Reply-To: <5ff387379f3c482ca44c95e2e7072823> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:30 PM 8/3/2002 -0400, wrote: >i think (although i'm not proud of it) i could claim the crown for >consumption of IC light in a lifetime. when i was the social chairman >for my fraternity in college, our average order was 15-20 kegs of >IC light/weekend. when i got elected, i raised the level up to >IC golden lager, but we still used IC Light as our 'quantity beer'... >i hope i'm not dating myself with these brand names...... Yeah, you're dating yourself, all right 8;) (thankfully, not in the same sense as Jon has recently been talking about "dating himself"). When some of us were in school, there was no such thing as d^ho^hg^h p^hi^hs^hs light beer. Blessedly. Some benighted states had 3.2 laws, but that was as deprived as it got. -- Larry (Lager Sucks) Larson "Every Man Needs Brains" -- (Brains Brewery, Cardiff, Wales) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Aug 4 07:22:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g74BMCZ4013240; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 07:22:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g74BMB9T013229; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 07:22:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020804071844.00b40518@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 07:21:59 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: IC Light In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020803224545.00d36cd8@mail.9netave.com> References: <5ff387379f3c482ca44c95e2e7072823> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:52 PM 8/3/2002 -0400, Larry Larson wrote: >At 10:30 PM 8/3/2002 -0400, wrote: >>i think (although i'm not proud of it) i could claim the crown for >>consumption of IC light in a lifetime. when i was the social chairman >>for my fraternity in college, our average order was 15-20 kegs of >>IC light/weekend. when i got elected, i raised the level up to >>IC golden lager, but we still used IC Light as our 'quantity beer'... >>i hope i'm not dating myself with these brand names...... > >Yeah, you're dating yourself, all right 8;) (thankfully, not in the same >sense as Jon has recently been talking about "dating himself"). > >When some of us were in school, there was no such thing as d^ho^hg^h >p^hi^hs^hs light beer. Blessedly. > >Some benighted states had 3.2 laws, but that was as deprived as it got. > >-- Larry (Lager Sucks) Larson > >"Every Man Needs Brains" -- (Brains Brewery, Cardiff, Wales) heh heh...we didn't have the money for EXPENSIVE beer like IC...remember generic beer? It was a white can that just said BEER across it. Or, on special occasions, like if someone got laid, we'd got whole hog and buy a case of Pearl beer. Of course when we were feeling romantic with our ladies, we'd go out and buy a bottle of Boonesfarm Strawberry Hill, or TJ Swan Afterhours, or Thunderbird...and for a quick buzz..Maddog 20/20. *sigh*...the good ole days. 8-P From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Aug 4 08:02:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g74C21Z4013665; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:02:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g74C21GS013661; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:02:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <004201c23bad$844e4c20$ce422c42@c9rnf01> From: "Todd Peer" To: References: <200208032300.g73N01CR028664@dirty.meretrix.com> Subject: Re: DC-Cycles name change Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 07:53:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 > Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 05:06:18 -0700 (PDT) > From: Tom Gimer > Subject: Re: DC-Cycles name change. > To: Laura Granato , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > weaver and wood come to mind.... > > no marriage resulted, but i believe kitchell and pena > sealed the deal here too > > -- > tg > I think Chris and Sally, Laura and Brian and Tom and Jeannette are the only pure DC-Cycles get hitched types as they are/were all list members in long/good standing. Mark K, Chuck and Mike Troutman are hitched or getting hitched to off listers. Am I missing anyone? T From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Aug 4 08:07:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g74C7OZ4013940; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:07:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g74C7OxF013935; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:07:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <004701c23bae$435530c0$ce422c42@c9rnf01> From: "Todd Peer" To: Subject: Re: DC-Cycles name change Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 07:58:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 D'oh...And Gimer with his lovely wife, Ece. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Peer" To: Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:53 AM Subject: Re: DC-Cycles name change > > Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 05:06:18 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Tom Gimer > > Subject: Re: DC-Cycles name change. > > To: Laura Granato , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > > weaver and wood come to mind.... > > > > no marriage resulted, but i believe kitchell and pena > > sealed the deal here too > > > > -- > > tg > > > > I think Chris and Sally, Laura and Brian and Tom and Jeannette are the only > pure DC-Cycles get hitched types as they are/were all list members in > long/good standing. > > Mark K, Chuck and Mike Troutman are hitched or getting hitched to off > listers. Am I missing anyone? > > T > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Aug 4 08:43:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g74Ch7Z4014342; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:43:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g74Ch6Bw014333; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:43:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 08:37:44 -0400 From: Kevin Bechtel Subject: VIR weekend To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <001101c23bb3$bc326800$e4a33244@dalect01.va.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal I'm leaving Friday morning for VIR . Probably going down Blue Ridge Parkway. Is anyone else going, or interested in going then and riding with me? Kevin "99 CBR900RR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Aug 4 14:21:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g74ILZZ4016023; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 14:21:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g74ILYfW016015; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 14:21:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020804142005.00d7cc60@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 14:22:55 -0400 To: Aki Damme , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: IC Light In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020804071844.00b40518@pop.east.cox.net> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020803224545.00d36cd8@mail.9netave.com> <5ff387379f3c482ca44c95e2e7072823> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:21 AM 8/4/2002 -0400, Aki Damme wrote: >Of course when we were feeling romantic with our ladies, we'd go out and >buy a bottle of Boonesfarm >Strawberry Hill, or TJ Swan Afterhours, or Thunderbird...and for a quick >buzz..Maddog 20/20. What, no Ripple? Mad Dog is still available in upscale markets near you as "Mogen David 20/20". I actually bought a pint as a joke a few months ago -- absolutely undrinkable. Pfaugggh. Just remembering makes me want to go brush my tongue. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Aug 4 15:05:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g74J5AZ4016442; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 15:05:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g74J5A4l016437; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 15:05:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020804150317.00b40a30@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 15:05:01 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: IC Light In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020804142005.00d7cc60@mail.9netave.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020804071844.00b40518@pop.east.cox.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20020803224545.00d36cd8@XXXXXX> <5ff387379f3c482ca44c95e2e7072823> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:22 PM 8/4/2002 -0400, Larry Larson wrote: >At 07:21 AM 8/4/2002 -0400, Aki Damme wrote: > >>Of course when we were feeling romantic with our ladies, we'd go out and >>buy a bottle of Boonesfarm >>Strawberry Hill, or TJ Swan Afterhours, or Thunderbird...and for a quick >>buzz..Maddog 20/20. > >What, no Ripple? only as a mixer with Thunderbird.....made an excellent cocktail, "Thunderipple" >Mad Dog is still available in upscale markets near you as "Mogen David >20/20". I actually bought a pint as a joke a few months ago -- absolutely >undrinkable. Pfaugggh. Just remembering makes me want to go brush my tongue. > >-- Larry ah yes...and don't forget for that "must slip into a coma RIGHT NOW" drink, which is basically anything mixed with Everclear. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Aug 4 20:09:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7509YZ4018322; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 20:09:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7509VNG018303; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 20:09:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Patti Rodgers" To: "'William J. Huson'" , Subject: RE: linked, integrated, anti-lock, & standard brakes Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 20:18:07 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c23c1d$f4c207b0$6e01a9ac@ticostat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3D4BC488.ED7FE3D@patriot.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal >>Has anyone made the switch, as in borrowed a bike with a strange brake >>system? Do you think a switch like that is a problem? I am about halfway to comfortable with braking and shifting on my "new" British bike. I know this is not exactly what your original post was about, Bill, but it's in the ballpark. (For anyone who does not know, many European bikes have the shifter and the foot-brake reversed from what we are used to, so you shift with the right foot and brake with left foot and right hand... very confusing when you are first trying to figure it out!) The first time I rode that thing in traffic I almost had a heart attack, and I only went about 20 blocks round trip. But I knew it was going to take some getting used to; I hadn't expected to pick it up in a few minutes. I would also probably feel a lot more comfortable on it, if I were not to switch back and forth between it and my Jap bike. I think if the rider *knows* there is something different between their old bike and their new (or borrowed/rented) one, and takes that into account, it should not be an issue. Yes, there will be a getting-used-to phase, but that's true any time you change bikes. It might take a bit longer, though. I'd be more concerned with making sure the rider knew before getting on the bike that the brakes are different than what he/she is used to. I can see how not knowing could set a rider up for some scary surprises. I can't imagine there being legislation actually passed on this topic--- what's next? Making all cars automatic, so new drivers don't get confused if they borrow a friend's manual transmission car? Cheers, Patti '95 Yamaha Virago '69 BSA FireBird From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Aug 4 21:33:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g751XVZ4018883; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:33:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g751XQbw018868; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 21:33:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020804213333.03080eb8@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 21:34:49 -0400 To: Aki Damme , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: IC Light In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020804150317.00b40a30@pop.east.cox.net> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020804142005.00d7cc60@mail.9netave.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020804071844.00b40518@XXXXXX> <5.1.1.6.0.20020803224545.00d36cd8@XXXXXX> <5ff387379f3c482ca44c95e2e7072823> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:05 PM 8/4/2002 -0400, Aki Damme wrote: >ah yes...and don't forget for that "must slip into a coma RIGHT NOW" >drink, which is basically anything >mixed with Everclear. Lousy drink, great group. I *still* play "Santa Monica" on the guitar in my office.... 8;) -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 06:41:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75AfSZ4021965; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 06:41:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75AfRxT021957; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 06:41:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <002a01c23c6c$a14d08b0$eb195aa6@michael> Reply-To: "Michael Jordan" From: "Michael Jordan" To: References: <000601c23c1d$f4c207b0$6e01a9ac@ticostat.com> Subject: Re: linked, integrated, anti-lock, & standard brakes Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 06:40:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > (For anyone who does not know, many European bikes have the shifter and the > foot-brake reversed from what we are used to, so you shift with the right > foot and brake with left foot and right hand... very confusing when you are > first trying to figure it out!) Over the (cough) years that I've been riding, I've owned left and right foot shift bikes. Some up for first, some down for first. And that's not to mention the early japanese rotary shifters (the next gear from top was first, and around we go - exciting, if you lost count)) > I can't imagine there being legislation actually passed on this topic--- Too late - DOT standardized on the "Japanese" shift pattern somewhere around 1974. I had a lovely '75 Ducati desmo single in Italy that I couldn't bring back with me - right side shifter and no neutral indicator light. I had a '66 Lightning back in '67 - always wanted a Firebird - loved the tank. Michael J. '93 GSX 1100G '86 SRX-6 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 08:04:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75C4DZ4022464; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:04:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75C4Cpl022455; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:04:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <17c.c28060c.2a7fc3a1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:03:45 EDT Subject: Re: Hells Fire!!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/2/2002 3:47:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, adamme1@XXXXXX writes: > pretty soon we'll see everyone wearing a Camelback just to get to/from work! Or just riding a camel. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 08:07:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75C7tZ4022508; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:07:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75C7sLp022502; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:07:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <004501c23c78$277227d0$a500a8c0@C4ZJ911> From: "Gary Foreman" To: , References: <17c.c28060c.2a7fc3a1@aol.com> Subject: Sunday's Summit Point Photos Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:03:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sunday's Race Photos http://www.2wheeljunkie.com/photos/photos_index.htm Gary Foreman From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 08:47:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75ClfZ4022995; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:47:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75CldlM022976; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:47:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <89.1bd3cf21.2a7fcddb@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:47:23 EDT Subject: Re: linked, integrated, anti-lock, & standard brakes To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/3/2002 7:49:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > > But then he dropped a heart stopper! It seems the agency (DOT?) is > concerned over M/C braking systems. God help us all. > The concern, what if a rider who > normally rides a linked/integrated/anti-lock equipped bike borrows a > ride with standard brakes. Yes, the braking technique *is* different, > and said rider would have to adjust. DUH! And that is why you never take a different bike out into traffic "cold" > His point was valid, a switch like that could result in an unsafe > situation. I disagree, in most cases the difference is never noticed, many Goldwing riders do not know that they have linked brakes. While they may cause problems in a panic situation, they are just as likely to save your ass as crash you. > But I pointed out that situation was similar to the shaky > few months it takes any new rider to become comfy on a particular bike. Good point. > He said they weren't thinking about regulating a > particular system. How can you tell when a bureaucrat is lying? > > Has anyone made the switch, as in borrowed a bike with a strange brake > system? Do you think a switch like that is a problem? Yes. Many of the systems you mentioned, with not problems at all. In addition I have had to go from right side rear brake left shift to left side rear brake right shift. That was a problem, but you could (and did) get used to it (Try it during a race sometime.) In that case the Gov. stepped in and standardized right side braking (an interesting time for the Brits. and Harly folks.) But that was old and fully developed technology, the change was not going to impact development. Nothing was changing, they simply picked one of the existing sides. In the case of motorcycle braking systems, they are still evolving, changing year to year, getting better and better. ANY interference from bureaucrats will stifle development. The manufacturers need to be allowed to develop braking systems freely so they can evolve. Only when development stops should the Gov. even think about stepping in to bring the stragglers up to speed. > Bill - likes his basic squeeze & press seperate brake system. > Me too. I do not like any of the new braking systems, (I specifically do not like current antilock braking on bikes.) but I do have confidence that they will continue to get better IF THEY ARE LEFT ALONE. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 08:51:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75CpdZ4023143; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:51:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75CpdvN023137; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:51:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <181.c27e6a7.2a7fceca@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:51:22 EDT Subject: Re: linked, integrated, anti-lock, & standard brakes To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/3/2002 12:20:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ljtanner@XXXXXX writes: > It makes me crazier when I switch from beemer to jap, that the controls are > so different. Give me the jap controls anyday - they are easier. I've > finally gotten so I can find the horn on the beemer and it only took 30k > miles!! Been there done that! Actually I like the Beemer controls myself. (Circa. 1983) and I still hit the damn horn on my ST once and a while after 36.000mi. or so. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 08:58:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75CwsZ4023199; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:58:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75CwrwL023194; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:58:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <197.ae3872b.2a7fd07d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:58:37 EDT Subject: Re: linked, integrated, anti-lock, & standard brakes To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/4/2002 8:09:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mprodgers@XXXXXX writes: > I can't imagine there being legislation actually passed on this topic--- > what's next? Making all cars automatic, so new drivers don't get confused > if they borrow a friend's manual transmission car? Never, never, never make a suggestion, even in jest that a bureaucrat could overhear. I remember saying (Many times) "Yea they passed a helmet law, but just let them try to pass a seatbelt law and see what happens!" Not even in jest..... John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 09:11:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75DBTZ4023339; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:11:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75DBSQq023326; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:11:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4DE0C8.68BA4655@patriot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 22:19:52 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mprodgers@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: linked, integrated, anti-lock, & standard brakes References: <000601c23c1d$f4c207b0$6e01a9ac@ticostat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Patti Rodgers wrote: > I can't imagine there being legislation actually passed on this topic--- > what's next? Making all cars automatic, so new drivers don't get confused > if they borrow a friend's manual transmission car? Well, there are regs on trannys. Mopars used to have a push button automatic back in the late `50s, and actual shift patterns on automatics varied. Thus came the command from the Gubmint - Thou shalt use the shift pattern P-R-N-D-L. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 09:30:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75DUFZ4024078; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:30:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75DUFQ4024073; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:30:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 5 Aug 2002 13:30:13 -0000 Message-ID: <20020805133013.7069.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: heads up X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) Wouldn't want to spend valuable tax money on something like, say, fighting terrorism... FYI State police will cruise in Camaros RICHMOND - Speeders may meet their match Saturday when state police begin patrolling Virginia roads with seven high-performance cars. The state has purchased the 2002 Chevrolet Camaros at a cost of $20,739 each to deter speeders and aggressive divers. ``The vehicles' high-performance profile will serve as a deterrent to irresponsible drivers and encourage motorists to follow the rules of the road,'' Col. W. Gerald Massengill, superintendent of Virginia State Police, said in a statement. The Camaros will be assigned to the seven divisions in the state. Each will have the state's distinctive blue and gray paint scheme and markings. HTH Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 09:50:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75DoJZ4024331; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:50:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75DoIGH024326; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:50:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4D062A.8DA68FC2@patriot.net> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 06:47:06 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Larry Larson CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: IC Light References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020803224545.00d36cd8@mail.9netave.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Larry Larson wrote: > Yeah, you're dating yourself, all right 8;) (thankfully, not in the same > sense as Jon has recently been talking about "dating himself"). > > When some of us were in school, there was no such thing as d^ho^hg^h > p^hi^hs^hs light beer. Blessedly. > > Some benighted states had 3.2 laws, but that was as deprived as it got. When I was in college, sucking down any beer required a road trip - dry county. That wasn't deprived, that was DEPRAVED! No kegs either, but bobbing for apples in a washtub fulla Kool-Aid flavored `shine was a fav. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 09:52:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75DqVZ4024498; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:52:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75DqUKg024491; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:52:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805095017.01d916a8@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 09:52:22 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: heads up In-Reply-To: <20020805133013.7069.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:30 PM 8/5/2002 +0000, sdave@XXXXXX wrote: >Wouldn't want to spend valuable tax money on something like, say, fighting >terrorism... > >FYI > >State police will >cruise in Camaros > RICHMOND - Speeders may meet their match Saturday when state police > begin patrolling Virginia roads with seven high-performance cars. > The state has purchased the 2002 Chevrolet Camaros at a cost of > $20,739 each to deter speeders and aggressive divers. > ``The vehicles' high-performance profile will serve as a deterrent to > irresponsible drivers and encourage motorists to follow the rules of the > road,'' Col. W. Gerald Massengill, superintendent of Virginia State > Police, said in a statement. > The Camaros will be assigned to the seven divisions in the state. > Each will have the state's distinctive blue and gray paint scheme and > markings. > > >HTH >Dave odd...doesn't this fly in the face that "you can't outrun radio waves"...and "high speed pursuits are considered dangerous"? I didn't realize that the State Police had such a history of problems being outrun by evil doers. Sounds like another way for the state to spend our depleting tax dollars to me. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 09:56:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75DuiZ4024687; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:56:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75DuhUZ024683; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:56:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Jim McGonigle" To: Subject: RE: heads up Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:56:14 -0400 Organization: BroadSoft Message-ID: <004f01c23c87$e09778f0$4b01a8c0@jmcgonigle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805095017.01d916a8@pop.east.cox.net> ... or worse, poorly trained ego-maniacs in a car that they think they can catch and do anything in on a public highway. Sounds like a recipe of disaster to me. > > > odd...doesn't this fly in the face that "you can't outrun radio > waves"...and "high speed pursuits are considered dangerous"? > > I didn't realize that the State Police had such a history of > problems being > outrun by evil doers. > > Sounds like another way for the state to spend our depleting > tax dollars to me. > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 09:57:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75DvrZ4024844; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:57:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75Dvr8k024840; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:57:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <196.af5fc57.2a7fde5c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:57:48 EDT Subject: Re: heads up To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/5/2002 9:30:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sdave@XXXXXX writes: > ``The vehicles' high-performance profile will serve as a deterrent to > irresponsible drivers and encourage motorists to follow the rules of the road," Yea, every bike with 200cc or less will be terrified. No one is afraid of the engine in the damn cop cars anyhow, try this. "IT IS THE RADIO DUMMY!" Everyone knows it is the radio you cannot outrun. Unless you are drunk or just stupid and then racing a Camaro sounds like fun. Just what we need more innocent people killed in high speed pursuit. Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! Just cops with bigger phalluses. Damn I am beginning to sound hardcore, I need to go for a ride, a nice cool ride... DAMN! By the way I see/hear about a zillion bike on MD 210 every weekend, where are they going? John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 09:58:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75DwWZ4025005; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:58:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75DwVfI024998; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:58:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805095634.024c22f0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 09:58:26 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: heads up In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805095017.01d916a8@pop.east.cox.net> References: <20020805133013.7069.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Prince William County has had a purple Camaro for a couple of years now. Likes to race people on the parkway then pull them over. That one is unmarked - so I can understand the purchase. Why mark them? Maybe VA is feeling envious of the Carolinias - one of the two has had Camaros for years. Black and sneaky. At 09:52 AM 8/5/2002, Aki Damme wrote: >> The Camaros will be assigned to the seven divisions in the state. >> Each will have the state's distinctive blue and gray paint scheme and markings. >> >> >>HTH >>Dave > > >odd...doesn't this fly in the face that "you can't outrun radio >waves"...and "high speed pursuits are considered dangerous"? > >I didn't realize that the State Police had such a history of problems >being outrun by evil doers. > >Sounds like another way for the state to spend our depleting tax dollars >to me. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:05:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75E59Z4025215; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:05:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75E59UP025211; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:05:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805100427.01d99c78@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:05:02 -0400 To: From: Aki Damme Subject: RE: heads up In-Reply-To: <004f01c23c87$e09778f0$4b01a8c0@jmcgonigle> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805095017.01d916a8@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:56 AM 8/5/2002 -0400, Jim McGonigle wrote: >... or worse, poorly trained ego-maniacs in a car that they think they >can catch and do anything in on a public highway. Sounds like a recipe >of disaster to me. not only that but if they consider a stock Camaro "high performance", they're in for a rude awakening. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:06:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75E6cZ4025384; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:06:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75E6cOF025379; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:06:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <37.2b812bd8.2a7fe065@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:06:29 EDT Subject: Re: IC Light To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 > > Yeah, you're dating yourself, all right Isnt that how you get hairy palms? John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:07:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75E7HZ4025551; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:07:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75E7Gem025542; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:07:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805100540.01dafe20@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:07:08 -0400 To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: heads up In-Reply-To: <196.af5fc57.2a7fde5c@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:57 AM 8/5/2002 -0400, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: >In a message dated 8/5/2002 9:30:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sdave@XXXXXX >writes: > > > ``The vehicles' high-performance profile will serve as a deterrent to > > irresponsible drivers and encourage motorists to follow the rules of the >road," > >Yea, every bike with 200cc or less will be terrified. next we'll see them buying 'busa's... >By the way I see/hear about a zillion bike on MD 210 every weekend, where are >they going? ...out racing stock Camaros.... ;-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:10:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75EA6Z4025716; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:10:06 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75EA5dp025710; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:10:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <14b.11efd7db.2a7fe136@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:09:58 EDT Subject: Re: heads up To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/5/2002 10:07:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, adamme1@XXXXXX writes: > ...out racing stock Camaros.... Good one! Now excuse me I need to wipe coffee off my monitor. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:14:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75EEVZ4025899; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:14:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75EEUto025888; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:14:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4E8996.5FB7A034@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:20:06 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aki Damme CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: IC Light References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020804071844.00b40518@pop.east.cox.net> <5.1.1.6.0.20020803224545.00d36cd8@XXXXXX> <5ff387379f3c482ca44c95e2e7072823> <5.1.0.14.2.20020804150317.00b40a30@XXXXXX> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aki Damme wrote: > >What, no Ripple? > > only as a mixer with Thunderbird.....made an excellent > cocktail, "Thunderipple" Is there a drink named "Thighs"? Then we mix and have "Thrunderipplethighs"! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:14:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75EEvZ4026055; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:14:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75EEuAF026048; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:14:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 07:14:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: heads up In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805100427.01d99c78@pop.east.cox.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Aki Damme wrote: > At 09:56 AM 8/5/2002 -0400, Jim McGonigle wrote: > > >... or worse, poorly trained ego-maniacs in a car that they think they > >can catch and do anything in on a public highway. Sounds like a recipe > >of disaster to me. > > not only that but if they consider a stock Camaro "high performance", they're > in for a rude awakening. I had a 2001 Trans AM 6spd (same drivetrain as the Camaro). It ran 12.76@110 at the drag strip with 600 miles on the odometer. :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:22:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75EMXZ4026245; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:22:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75EMWub026241; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:22:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4E8B78.24F81777@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:28:08 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Troutman CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: heads up References: <20020805133013.7069.qmail@server445.gisol.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020805095634.024c22f0@mail.troutman.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Troutman wrote: > Prince William County has had a purple Camaro for a couple of years > now. Likes to race people on the parkway then pull them over. That one is > unmarked - so I can understand the purchase. Why mark them? Maybe VA is > feeling envious of the Carolinias - one of the two has had Camaros for > years. Black and sneaky. > Spotted in Eastern North Carolina - black Mustangs. They seem to hang on the beach-bound roads to collect travel-tax. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:24:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75EObZ4026418; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:24:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75EOa5b026414; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:24:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4E8BF4.2BC571B@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:30:12 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aki Damme CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: heads up References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805095017.01d916a8@pop.east.cox.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20020805100427.01d99c78@pop.east.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aki Damme wrote: > At 09:56 AM 8/5/2002 -0400, Jim McGonigle wrote: > > >... or worse, poorly trained ego-maniacs in a car that they think they > >can catch and do anything in on a public highway. Sounds like a recipe > >of disaster to me. > > not only that but if they consider a stock Camaro "high performance", they're > in for a rude awakening. No shitski! I don't about the new Camoros, but my `83 Z-28 was a perfumed PIG! My kid had a Baracuda silly six automatic that could stomp the Z from a digout. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:26:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75EQQZ4026584; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:26:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75EQOZo026577; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:26:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805102418.01da3160@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:26:17 -0400 To: Wayne Edelen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: RE: heads up In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805100427.01d99c78@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:14 AM 8/5/2002 -0700, Wayne Edelen wrote: >On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Aki Damme wrote: > > > At 09:56 AM 8/5/2002 -0400, Jim McGonigle wrote: > > > > >... or worse, poorly trained ego-maniacs in a car that they think they > > >can catch and do anything in on a public highway. Sounds like a recipe > > >of disaster to me. > > > > not only that but if they consider a stock Camaro "high performance", > they're > > in for a rude awakening. > >I had a 2001 Trans AM 6spd (same drivetrain as the Camaro). It ran >12.76@110 at the drag strip with 600 miles on the odometer. :-) the Firebirds, IMHO, have always been faster than the Camaros. I had a '79 Berlinetta, with the 350 Z28, and it was fast...but not as fast it's sister car the Firebird. And I'm not even going into the horror stories of how often it was in the shop. Even the pin stripe was off by over an inch from center! -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:26:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75EQlZ4026739; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:26:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75EQkHk026732; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:26:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4E8C76.17883BF6@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:32:22 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: IC Light References: <37.2b812bd8.2a7fe065@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > > Yeah, you're dating yourself, all right > > Isnt that how you get hairy palms? You gte Harry Palms if you're gay. I have Rosie Palms. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:29:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75ETeZ4026934; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:29:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75ETejM026928; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:29:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Jim McGonigle" To: "'Aki Damme'" , "'Wayne Edelen'" , Subject: RE: heads up Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:29:18 -0400 Organization: BroadSoft Message-ID: <006a01c23c8c$7edff650$4b01a8c0@jmcgonigle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805102418.01da3160@pop.east.cox.net> Not anymore, the firebirds and camaros are about equal. My '94 ran in the high 13s stock and the later models were much faster. The ones they are getting are high 12 second cars capable of 150mph+ (around 130 they start slowing up) easily. They handle pretty well stock but w/ any live rear axle car you can lose the rear end at high speeds if your not careful. -Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Aki Damme [mailto:adamme1@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 10:26 AM > To: Wayne Edelen; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: heads up > > > At 07:14 AM 8/5/2002 -0700, Wayne Edelen wrote: > >On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Aki Damme wrote: > > > > > At 09:56 AM 8/5/2002 -0400, Jim McGonigle wrote: > > > > > > >... or worse, poorly trained ego-maniacs in a car that > they think they > > > >can catch and do anything in on a public highway. > Sounds like a recipe > > > >of disaster to me. > > > > > > not only that but if they consider a stock Camaro "high > performance", > > they're > > > in for a rude awakening. > > > >I had a 2001 Trans AM 6spd (same drivetrain as the Camaro). It ran > >12.76@110 at the drag strip with 600 miles on the odometer. :-) > > the Firebirds, IMHO, have always been faster than the > Camaros. I had a > '79 Berlinetta, with the 350 Z28, and it was fast...but not > as fast it's sister > car the Firebird. And I'm not even going into the horror > stories of how > often it was in the shop. Even the pin stripe was off by over > an inch from > center! > > -aki > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:30:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75EUEZ4027104; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:30:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75EUEru027097; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:30:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbs0OkuGa4Wvqm2jOHHXdRrWXDjRd8BmVXAN/dJ7WP/ovIE/ksxvZo50Uffl/pnMDc= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: heads up Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:30:51 -0400 Message-ID: <00d101c23c8c$b2ad6030$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal The last generation of Camaro/Firebird were pretty good performers. The low-end 6 cyl had more HP (around 200) than the V-8s from like 1975 to 1992 or so. In this last generation, the V-8s were detuned Corvette motors at 275HP (incrementally bumped up through the years to this year to something like 330). They weren't slow....but you had to have a mullet to drive one. --jon -----Original Message----- From: William J. Huson [mailto:bhuson@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 10:30 AM To: Aki Damme Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: heads up Aki Damme wrote: > At 09:56 AM 8/5/2002 -0400, Jim McGonigle wrote: > > >... or worse, poorly trained ego-maniacs in a car that they think they > >can catch and do anything in on a public highway. Sounds like a recipe > >of disaster to me. > > not only that but if they consider a stock Camaro "high performance", they're > in for a rude awakening. No shitski! I don't about the new Camoros, but my `83 Z-28 was a perfumed PIG! My kid had a Baracuda silly six automatic that could stomp the Z from a digout. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:31:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75EV5Z4027264; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:31:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75EV5UT027260; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:31:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805102932.022b2eb0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:31:02 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: RE: heads up AAAAAAHHHHHHH In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805102418.01da3160@pop.east.cox.net> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805100427.01d99c78@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:26 AM 8/5/2002, Aki Damme wrote: >>I had a 2001 Trans AM 6spd (same drivetrain as the Camaro). It ran >>12.76@110 at the drag strip with 600 miles on the odometer. :-) > >the Firebirds, IMHO, have always been faster than the Camaros. I had a >'79 Berlinetta, with the 350 Z28, and it was fast...but not as fast it's >sister >car the Firebird. And I'm not even going into the horror stories of how >often it was in the shop. Even the pin stripe was off by over an inch from >center! Please - kill this car thread before it begins. In short order everyone will be coming out of the woodwork with a Ford vs. Chevy story or reminiscing their uncle's 9 second 1/4 mile grocery getter. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:32:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75EW9Z4027424; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:32:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75EW8eP027417; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:32:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:32:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: DC-Cycles name change In-Reply-To: <004201c23bad$844e4c20$ce422c42@c9rnf01> Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, Todd Peer wrote: > Mark K, Chuck and Mike Troutman are hitched or getting hitched to off > listers. Am I missing anyone? Yep, me. Getting married in October. Gonna have to get this hair chopped off... Which will make it less irritating in a helmet, *whew* Fish. gs500e, thanks matt From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:33:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75EXKZ4027585; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:33:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75EXJFo027580; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:33:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 07:33:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: heads up In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805102418.01da3160@pop.east.cox.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Aki Damme wrote: > >I had a 2001 Trans AM 6spd (same drivetrain as the Camaro). It ran > >12.76@110 at the drag strip with 600 miles on the odometer. :-) > > the Firebirds, IMHO, have always been faster than the Camaros. I had a For the newer F-bodies (camaro/firebird) that's just not the case, Aki. They have the exact same drivetrain and their weights are nearly identical (all depends on equipment and options). The only difference in power would be production tolerances. Both cars run the 5.7L LS1 motor and T56 6spd or 4L60E 4spd automatic. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:39:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75Ed2Z4027775; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:39:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75Ed2OF027768; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:39:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4E8F56.1295656C@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:44:38 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aki Damme CC: Wayne Edelen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: heads up References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805100427.01d99c78@pop.east.cox.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20020805102418.01da3160@pop.east.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aki Damme wrote: > the Firebirds, IMHO, have always been faster than the Camaros. I had a > '79 Berlinetta, with the 350 Z28, and it was fast...but not as fast it's sister > car the Firebird. And I'm not even going into the horror stories of how > often it was in the shop. Even the pin stripe was off by over an inch from > center! > > -aki I painted a few Camaros and Firebirds of that vintage. Bodies were so sloppy it was immpossible to even out the hood seams and such! One had zero fender shims on the right side, and an inch stack on the left to level that fender with the rest of the car. And this was on a car that had never been dinged! Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:53:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75ErOZ4028009; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:53:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75ErOt5028003; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:53:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <16f.11a52100.2a7feb55@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:53:09 EDT Subject: Re: heads up To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 One of the major motorcycle magazines once stated, "Cars no longer accelerate. They gather speed." I still go by that one. Do not own a car, Do not want one.(Truth in adv. I can use my wifes if I _need_ to.) No way in hell I could afford one that could keep up with my ST, or damn near any bike out there. Cars BLECH! John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:54:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75EsRZ4028177; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:54:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75EsQUv028172; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:54:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 5 Aug 2002 14:54:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20020805145424.26789.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: heads up AAAAAAHHHHHHH X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) Mike Pleads his case : >Please - kill this car thread before it begins. In short order everyone >will be coming out of the woodwork with a Ford vs. Chevy story or >reminiscing their uncle's 9 second 1/4 mile grocery getter. [Dave] I second the motion, the chest pounding has already started... Maybe we could get back to something less controversial... match-making, chain vs. shaft, synth vs. dino, and it's been a while since the last gun thread. This week's out of the blue question: What was the most prolific DCC flame fest ? Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 10:56:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75EuVZ4028342; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:56:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75EuV91028335; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:56:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:59:13 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: "William J. Huson" cc: Troutman , Subject: Re: heads up In-Reply-To: <3D4E8B78.24F81777@patriot.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Spotted in Eastern North Carolina - black Mustangs. They seem to hang on the > beach-bound roads to collect travel-tax. > > Bill > Lately???? I know NC had mustangs through 95ish, the older body style but they never used any >94 models. Both North and South Carolina use marked and unmarked Camaros these days. What's interesting is there will be no more good persuit vehicles from Chevy after this year with the F-body's end of production. I have to laugh at the cops in the new Impalas and Monte carlo's and whatever. I guess they will HAVE to buy Vettes next. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 11:02:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75F2BZ4028539; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:02:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75F2AH2028533; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:02:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'Tom Gimer'" , "'ScooterFZR@XXXXXX'" Subject: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:02:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >WRONG! va. has a YEARLY inspection. md. has a ONE TIME > inspection. Sorry, you're only partially correct...Maryland has a ONE TIME INSPECTION.... but you are inspected by the police EVERYTIME you are pulled or pass thru a roadblock... and you BETTER PASS or they will insert a vacuum into your wallet and you will immediately hear a loud sucking sound.... it some cases they will impound your vehicle immediately. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 11:07:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75F76Z4028721; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:07:06 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75F76fA028716; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:07:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <41200281515121290@earthlink.net> X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #3003520714B31D032830 X-Priority: Reply-To: fgrefe@XXXXXX X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 5.0.6.8 (Windows) From: "Fred Grefe" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: heads up Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:12:1 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Wouldn't want to spend valuable tax money on something like, say, fighting terrorism... > The state has purchased the 2002 Chevrolet Camaros at a cost of $20,739 each to deter speeders and aggressive divers. They're cheaper than the Crown Victoria. So if they are going to buy a car anyway, why not something that will get out of its own way? --- Fred Grefe GTS1000 - for sa From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 11:08:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75F8qZ4028771; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:08:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75F8p7Q028765; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:08:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <412002815151346200@earthlink.net> X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #3003520714B31D032830 X-Priority: Reply-To: fgrefe@XXXXXX X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 5.0.6.8 (Windows) From: "Fred Grefe" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: anyone selling an SV650? Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:13:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII

Time for a new bike.  Anyone selling an SV650 (not the S version)? 
 
--- Fred Grefe
GTS1000 - for sale
 
 

From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 11:18:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75FIlZ4028850; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:18:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75FIkrN028842; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:18:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 5 Aug 2002 15:18:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20020805151844.10546.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: inspections X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) George added : > >>WRONG! va. has a YEARLY inspection. md. has a ONE TIME >> inspection. >Sorry, you're only partially correct...Maryland has a ONE TIME >INSPECTION.... but you are inspected by the police EVERYTIME you are pulled >or pass thru a roadblock... and you BETTER PASS or they will insert a >vacuum into your wallet and you will immediately hear a loud sucking >sound.... it some cases they will impound your vehicle immediately. [Dave] True, MD police of any sort can write you an inspection violation ticket, localities *VERY SELDOM* do because none of the $$$ goes to the local jurisdiction. That's a prime reason you see rust buckets, and cracked windshield cars so often in MD. They only go through the impoundment hassle if they're 'fishing' for a reason to arrest or search you. Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 11:25:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75FPNZ4029041; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:25:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75FPM5I029036; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:25:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D4E9A32.50213744@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 11:30:58 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dan CC: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: heads up References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dan wrote: > Lately???? I know NC had mustangs through 95ish, the older body style but > they never used any >94 models. Both North and South Carolina use marked > and unmarked Camaros these days. What's interesting is there will be no > more good persuit vehicles from Chevy after this year with the F-body's > end of production. I have to laugh at the cops in the new Impalas and > Monte carlo's and whatever. I guess they will HAVE to buy Vettes next. > > Dan Yeah, saw them into the late `90s. A few years ago, while down on the shoulder with a spiked rear tire on the scoot, I had a conversation with a VA state trooper who lamented the lack of rear-wheel drive pursuit vehicles. The commonwealth had threatened to buy fwd cars, not good for the usual WOT weave & speed runs on the interstate. I believe Ford still makes the Interceptor. I assume that's rear wheel drive `cause fwd may be fine for the average citizen but shittin' & gittin' fwd blows. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 11:30:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75FURZ4029213; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:30:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75FURXT029209; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:30:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'Jennthebiker@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Prove it Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:30:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jenn, snapfish.com link requested I'd send you some photos of my ride, but only if you want... if you're running a 56k it could take a while. Let me know. Hey, I'm bold enuff to ask ;^) gb From: Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 23:46:11 EDT Subject: im not a man! To: Jenn writes: im not a man! sigh..... if pictures are needed as proof --- email me and ill send you a link to my snapfish.com photos :) jtb Ricardo writes: What if Jenn is really a man? Getting his kicks by pretending he is a little girl?? Ricardo Dan writes: Wow, in one week this list has gone from dc-cycles to the jenn fan list. Jenn, you may have set record for hijacking a list serve. Not that I mind, its entertaining. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 11:43:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75FhVZ4029439; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:43:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75FhVp6029434; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:43:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYJAc/WLxSGxoRXJf4YCDw8pZU7pJnUZ0uI5of6PBuRdNL9MxsCpaRa2bKbSEfNcgg= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Prove it Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:44:09 -0400 Message-ID: <00d201c23c96$f0ab8a10$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal To hell with prove it...post it. -----Original Message----- From: Bruhl, George LT [mailto:GBruhl@XXXXXX] Jenn, snapfish.com link requested I'd send you some photos of my ride, but only if you want... if you're running a 56k it could take a while. Let me know. Hey, I'm bold enuff to ask ;^) gb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 11:45:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75FjmZ4029611; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:45:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75FjmhN029605; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:45:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'Jennthebiker@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Indiana PA Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:45:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > anyone ever hear of a small town called Indiana, pa? its about an hour and a > half northeast of Pittsburgh. some people know of it because of the > university -- Indiana university of Pennsylvania. some people know of it > because its jimmy Stewarts birthplace. other people know of it because its > the Christmas tree capital of the world. anyone know of it? and why in the > world do you?? I have a nephew who went to the University of California, Pennsylvania. I saw Indiana PA on a map... and pondered the significance of naming towns after states. But not for long. About a block from the campus of the University in California Pennsylvania there was a Mom and Pop Chinese joint that had magnificent General Toa's (sp?), Hot to Go! How's the turnpike? Are there plans to finish construction/reconstruction this millennium? gb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 11:48:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75FmGZ4029782; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:48:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75FmGMU029777; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:48:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 5 Aug 2002 15:48:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20020805154814.15787.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: heads up X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) >> Wouldn't want to spend valuable tax money on something like, say, >fighting terrorism... > >> The state has purchased the 2002 Chevrolet Camaros at a cost of >$20,739 each to deter speeders and aggressive divers. >They're cheaper than the Crown Victoria. So if they are going to buy a car >anyway, why not something that will get out of its own way? [Dave] but they don't use them in the same capacity as the cruisers (like to transport prisoners), they're sole purpose is blend in with traffic and not create a visible police presence so as to target motorists that misbehave. Misbehavior in this context has a subjective definition that varies with the officer piloting the vehicle. So while they may be cheaper than the Crown Vic (which I haven't verified), their use is limited. Since it's on our dime, why not use... Escorts & Cavaliers ? Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 12:08:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75G82Z4030115; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:08:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75G80IN030102; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:08:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <412002815161253950@earthlink.net> X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #3003520714B31D032830 X-Priority: Reply-To: fgrefe@XXXXXX X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 5.0.6.8 (Windows) From: "Fred Grefe" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: heads up Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:12:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > motorists that misbehave. After watching Goldmember yesterday anything with the word behave makes me chuckle. > Since it's on our dime, why not use... Escorts & Cavaliers ? Escorts are no more. Now we have the much recalled Focus. Escorts and Cavaliers? Who would want to see Sheriff Buford Pusser (sp?) in an econo box. It's just not right! --- Fred Grefe GTS1000 - for sale --- fgrefe@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 12:31:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75GVxZ4030438; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:31:59 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75GVw7S030427; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:31:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 5 Aug 2002 16:31:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20020805163156.14681.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: RE: heads up X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) >> motorists that misbehave. >After watching Goldmember yesterday anything with the word behave makes me >chuckle. [Dave] Don't spoil it ! >> Since it's on our dime, why not use... Escorts & Cavaliers ? >Escorts are no more. Now we have the much recalled Focus. [Dave] You're right. It's a rebadged & reskinned Abort err... Escort though... The wife's '98 Ab...err.. Escort hasn't had a single problem in the last 130k miles... She managed to get 90,000 miles on the original tires... I think they were made of Flubber or something. >> Escorts and Cavaliers? Who would want to see Sheriff Buford Pusser (sp?) in an econo box. It's just not right! [Dave] Buford Pusser ?! That was TN... This is DC Metro, we're stuck with Barney Fife & Roscoe P Coltrane ! Besides... Buford was secure enough in his manhood to not have to compensate ! Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 12:35:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75GZcZ4030619; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:35:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75GZbEL030614; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:35:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Sent: 5 Aug 2002 16:35:29 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "LAURA GRANATO" Subject: Re: the good old days? X-Sent-From: lgranato@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 09:35:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: Web Mail 5.0.11-9 Message-Id: <20020805093529.10147.h015.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net> Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > what did you guys talk about before i joined the list? > motorcycles or > something? actually, the list isn't all guys. There are a few of us gals on here too... LAG ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 12:36:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75GaYZ4030782; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:36:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75GaXrC030776; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:36:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <014e01c23c9e$f0af12e0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: , References: <20020805154814.15787.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Subject: Re: RE: heads up Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:41:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:48 AM Subject: Re: RE: heads up > >> Wouldn't want to spend valuable tax money on something like, say, > >fighting terrorism... > > > >> The state has purchased the 2002 Chevrolet Camaros at a cost of > >$20,739 each to deter speeders and aggressive divers. > >They're cheaper than the Crown Victoria. So if they are going to buy a car > >anyway, why not something that will get out of its own way? > > [Dave] but they don't use them in the same capacity as the cruisers (like to transport prisoners), they're sole purpose is blend in with traffic and not create a visible police presence so as to target motorists that misbehave. Misbehavior in this context has a subjective definition that varies with the officer piloting the vehicle. So while they may be cheaper than the Crown Vic (which I haven't verified), their use is limited. > > Since it's on our dime, why not use... Escorts & Cavaliers ? > > Dave Dave is correct. *If* the real reason for police presence on the highways is to deter aggressive driving and other idiocy (rather than to write high-dollar gotcha tickets) prominent marked vehicles deployed in large numbers is the way to go. Unless you live in a Stalinist police state where every third person is either an undercover cop or informant, the average joe is not detered by undercover-style operations that nail a tiny precentage of people who "misbehave." I doubt people are going to slow down or curb their idiotic urges because the VSP deploy, what, 7 unmarked Camaros statewide. The odds of one of them being around is very small. People "manage" the risk of being ticketed everyday and the odds of having marked or unmarked police around is quite low, if the prevailing speeds on local highways is any guide. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 12:37:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75GboZ4030941; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:37:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75Gbo9x030933; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:37:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:38:35 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: GBruhl@XXXXXX, Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Indiana PA Message-ID: <1F91D5C5.3C00E002.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey George, You've got it backwards. It's California University of Pennsylvania or the CUP for short. Graduated from there in '94. Upon my departure, I said goodbye to my favorite profs. One commented to the other, "Look Tony, we've done our jobs. He's going grey." Keep in mind, I was 23/24 at the time. =8-0 Never ate at the Chinese place. I frequented Subway myself. After the first half semester, all I had to do was walk in to the place and, by the time I put my bookbag in a booth, my sandwich was ready without me saying a word. ;-) Filled up 7 Subway cards in one semester. hehe Scooter In a message dated Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:45:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, GBruhl@XXXXXX writes: > > > Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > anyone ever hear of a small town called Indiana, pa? its about an hour > and a > > half northeast of Pittsburgh. some people know of it because of the > > university -- Indiana university of Pennsylvania. some people know of it > > because its jimmy Stewarts birthplace. other people know of it because > its > > the Christmas tree capital of the world. anyone know of it? and why in > the > > world do you?? > > > I have a nephew who went to the University of California, Pennsylvania. I > saw Indiana PA on a map... and pondered the significance of naming towns > after states. But not for long. About a block from the campus of the > University in California Pennsylvania there was a Mom and Pop Chinese joint > that had magnificent General Toa's (sp?), Hot to Go! > > How's the turnpike? Are there plans to finish > construction/reconstruction > this millennium? > > gb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 12:40:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75GeIZ4031105; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:40:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75GeHUp031101; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:40:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Scott, Wellesley E." To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: heads up Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:11:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Why don't they follow in the footsteps of other states and transform seized vehicles into police cruisers? I've seen everything from Camaros to Porsches being used by state and local patrolmen. -----Original Message----- From: sdave@XXXXXX [mailto:sdave@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:48 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: heads up Since it's on our dime, why not use... Escorts & Cavaliers ? Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 12:40:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75GeSZ4031141; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:40:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75GeSkS031137; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:40:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 12:40:23 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: fgrefe@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: heads up Message-ID: <258A70C3.48431228.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:12:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, fgrefe@XXXXXX writes: > > > > > motorists that misbehave. > After watching Goldmember yesterday anything with the word behave makes me > chuckle. > > > > Since it's on our dime, why not use... Escorts & Cavaliers ? > Escorts are no more. Now we have the much recalled Focus. Escorts and > Cavaliers? Who would want to see Sheriff Buford Pusser > (sp?) in an econo > box. It's just not right! > > > --- Fred Grefe > GTS1000 - for sale > --- fgrefe@XXXXXX Oh behaaavveeee!!!! Shagadelic, man. 8-) Scooter From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 12:42:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75GgJZ4031449; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:42:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75GgJ8l031444; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:42:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'ScooterFZR@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'Jennthebiker@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Indiana PA Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:42:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Cool campus in a nice area. Was only up there twice. Somehow I always got roped into picking up and dropping off the nephew. Did you play baseball up there? gb -----Original Message----- From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX [mailto:ScooterFZR@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 12:39 PM To: GBruhl@XXXXXX; Jennthebiker@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Indiana PA Hey George, You've got it backwards. It's California University of Pennsylvania or the CUP for short. Graduated from there in '94. Upon my departure, I said goodbye to my favorite profs. One commented to the other, "Look Tony, we've done our jobs. He's going grey." Keep in mind, I was 23/24 at the time. =8-0 Never ate at the Chinese place. I frequented Subway myself. After the first half semester, all I had to do was walk in to the place and, by the time I put my bookbag in a booth, my sandwich was ready without me saying a word. ;-) Filled up 7 Subway cards in one semester. hehe Scooter In a message dated Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:45:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, GBruhl@XXXXXX writes: > > > Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > anyone ever hear of a small town called Indiana, pa? its about an hour > and a > > half northeast of Pittsburgh. some people know of it because of the > > university -- Indiana university of Pennsylvania. some people know of it > > because its jimmy Stewarts birthplace. other people know of it because > its > > the Christmas tree capital of the world. anyone know of it? and why in > the > > world do you?? > > > I have a nephew who went to the University of California, Pennsylvania. I > saw Indiana PA on a map... and pondered the significance of naming towns > after states. But not for long. About a block from the campus of the > University in California Pennsylvania there was a Mom and Pop Chinese joint > that had magnificent General Toa's (sp?), Hot to Go! > > How's the turnpike? Are there plans to finish > construction/reconstruction > this millennium? > > gb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 12:58:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75Gw9Z4031918; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:58:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75Gw9AO031911; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:58:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 5 Aug 2002 16:58:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20020805165807.20570.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: RE: heads up X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) Scott 'the diet coke of EVIL' W asks - >Why don't they follow in the footsteps of other states and transform seized >vehicles into police cruisers? I've seen everything from Camaros to >Porsches being used by state and local patrolmen. [Dave] Nice Police Officer: "Mr. W. I stopped you for doing 58mph in a 55mph zone. Is this a cracked tail light I see, I'm going to have to impound & seize your vehicle, and it sure is a nice one." Scott W: "but... but... but..." NPO: "Zip it. I give the orders around here, Scott." No need to give the state or localities a financial incentive to seize property, that creates a whole host of other problems... Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 12:59:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75Gx9Z4031958; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:59:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75Gx912031954; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 12:59:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <41200281517355610@earthlink.net> X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #3003520714B31D032830 X-Priority: Reply-To: fgrefe@XXXXXX X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 5.0.6.8 (Windows) From: "Fred Grefe" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: heads up Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:3:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Why don't they follow in the footsteps of other states and transform seized > vehicles into police cruisers? I've seen everything from Camaros to > Porsches being used by state and local patrolmen. If the state has their own garage and mechanics then they are probably familiar with the chevy and ford V8 drive trains. Anything else would likely have to be sent to another shop which significantlycantly increase routine repair & maintenance costs. I saw a Viper done up as a police car once. It may not be practical (it was the roadster), but it sure looked cool. --- Fred Grefe GTS1000-for sale From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 13:06:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75H62Z4032169; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:06:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75H61ol032162; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:06:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Scott R. Russell" To: Subject: RE: heads up Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:05:39 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020805133013.7069.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Importance: Normal Actually saw a police driving Rt. 50 in a Lincoln Town Car, black in color, blue LED's in the back. Windows are tinted deeply, no visual markings on it. I don't know the person is legit or not, he was only wearing a t-shirt with POLICE on the back. Watch your backs. Scott Russell 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S -----Original Message----- From: sdave@XXXXXX [mailto:sdave@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:30 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: heads up Wouldn't want to spend valuable tax money on something like, say, fighting terrorism... FYI State police will cruise in Camaros RICHMOND - Speeders may meet their match Saturday when state police begin patrolling Virginia roads with seven high-performance cars. The state has purchased the 2002 Chevrolet Camaros at a cost of $20,739 each to deter speeders and aggressive divers. ``The vehicles' high-performance profile will serve as a deterrent to irresponsible drivers and encourage motorists to follow the rules of the road,'' Col. W. Gerald Massengill, superintendent of Virginia State Police, said in a statement. The Camaros will be assigned to the seven divisions in the state. Each will have the state's distinctive blue and gray paint scheme and markings. HTH Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 13:06:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75H64Z4032202; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:06:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75H63YI032197; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:06:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Scott R. Russell" To: Subject: RE: heads up Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:05:41 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805095634.024c22f0@mail.troutman.org> Importance: Normal Bring back the Vienna Volvo's!!!!!!! Scott Russell -----Original Message----- From: Troutman [mailto:mike@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:58 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: heads up Prince William County has had a purple Camaro for a couple of years now. Likes to race people on the parkway then pull them over. That one is unmarked - so I can understand the purchase. Why mark them? Maybe VA is feeling envious of the Carolinias - one of the two has had Camaros for years. Black and sneaky. At 09:52 AM 8/5/2002, Aki Damme wrote: >> The Camaros will be assigned to the seven divisions in the state. >> Each will have the state's distinctive blue and gray paint scheme and markings. >> >> >>HTH >>Dave > > >odd...doesn't this fly in the face that "you can't outrun radio >waves"...and "high speed pursuits are considered dangerous"? > >I didn't realize that the State Police had such a history of problems >being outrun by evil doers. > >Sounds like another way for the state to spend our depleting tax dollars >to me. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 13:43:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75HhZZ4032448; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:43:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75HhYZM032440; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:43:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <9e.2a6c2bc1.2a801341@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:43:29 EDT Subject: re: indiana, pa To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: gbruhl@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 gb writes: How's the turnpike? Are there plans to finish construction/reconstruction this millennium? jenn's response: NEVER! they'll just start again and continue to work at it! :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 13:45:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75Hj7Z4032512; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:45:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75Hj6dt032506; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:45:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020805174504.55691.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:45:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: To: "Bruhl, George LT" , "'DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX'" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ***this is an automated response*** mr. gimer is currently in the midst of a one-week ban on posting to this list. if this is an emergency, please contact mr. gimer in his office (301 913-0060), where he can be found naked on the couch, as always. --- "Bruhl, George LT" wrote: > > >WRONG! va. has a YEARLY inspection. md. has a ONE TIME > > inspection. > > > Sorry, you're only partially correct...Maryland has a ONE > TIME > INSPECTION.... but you are inspected by the police > EVERYTIME you are pulled > or pass thru a roadblock... and you BETTER PASS or they > will insert a > vacuum into your wallet and you will immediately hear a > loud sucking > sound.... it some cases they will impound your vehicle > immediately. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 13:47:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75HlEZ4032550; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:47:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75HlDaB032546; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:47:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Scott, Wellesley E." To: "'sdave@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: RE: heads up Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:44:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" For the record the vehicles in question are normally cars involved in drug offences. If they pull you over for speeding and happen to find drugs on your person or in your vehicle then they would have the right (in many states) to seize and sell your property. If a jurisdiction busts into a dealer's/supplier's house in the 'burbs I see no reason why the shiny new Carrera shouldn't be forfeited. W.E.Scott III, JD -----Original Message----- From: sdave@XXXXXX [mailto:sdave@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 12:58 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: RE: heads up Scott 'the diet coke of EVIL' W asks - >Why don't they follow in the footsteps of other states and transform seized >vehicles into police cruisers? I've seen everything from Camaros to >Porsches being used by state and local patrolmen. [Dave] Nice Police Officer: "Mr. W. I stopped you for doing 58mph in a 55mph zone. Is this a cracked tail light I see, I'm going to have to impound & seize your vehicle, and it sure is a nice one." Scott W: "but... but... but..." NPO: "Zip it. I give the orders around here, Scott." No need to give the state or localities a financial incentive to seize property, that creates a whole host of other problems... Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 13:47:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75HlxZ4032589; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:47:59 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75Hlx6x032582; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:47:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <139.125897c7.2a801444@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:47:48 EDT Subject: Re: the good old days? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: lgranato@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > what did you guys talk about before i joined the list? > motorcycles or > something? actually, the list isn't all guys. There are a few of us gals on here too... LAG jenn's response: my statement was not meant for just 'guys'. i said 'you guys' as in 'y'all', 'yous', 'yuenz', 'yous guys', etc. i apologize for being misleading! jenn From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 13:56:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75HupZ4032672; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:56:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75Huo1b032668; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:56:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:56:36 EDT Subject: RE: Did I hear someone say Bike Night? To: jon.strang@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 > jtb offered: :p to jon! Jenn, the last girl that made such a brazen offer....is emotionally scarred for life. Maybe b/c I returned the favor. --jon jenn's response: oh my! i have no idea how to respond to that! it wasnt a proposition nor a request for a returned favor! *shakes head in disbelieve* now about bike night.... ? :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 14:04:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75I4sZ4000570; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:04:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75I4rba000566; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:04:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:04:34 EDT Subject: RE: Prove it To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: jmstrang@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 jon writes: To hell with prove it...post it. jenn's response: since i have my photos on snapfish, i have to add individual email addresses to those who request my pics. i cant just send the email to dc-cycles@XXXXXX. so ifyou wanna see 'em, you have to ask :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 14:15:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75IF4Z4000689; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:15:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75IF4tp000684; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:15:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <48.f78b475.2a801aa4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:15:00 EDT Subject: nags head To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 hi everyone :) im riding to nags head this weekend --- leaving the baltimore area around 4am on saturday --- leaving to return home about 4am on monday morning. (i have to be at work by 12:30pm on monday). im meeting up with my biker parents there. let me know if anyone is headed that way saturday or returning on monday! jtb :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 14:23:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75IN6Z4000783; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:23:06 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75IN68h000778; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:23:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVajVNWuiY/3srF/TlNRrS0X9por7JVzFB4yTh1wy4tMqd92I0LW6myL9C7u0y5mTPY= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Did I hear someone say Bike Night? Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:23:44 -0400 Message-ID: <00e301c23cad$3bf18d10$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal >> > jtb offered: >> > :p to jon! >> jon replied: >> Jenn, the last girl that made such a brazen offer....is emotionally >> scarred for life. >jenn's response: >oh my! i have no idea how to respond to that! it wasnt a proposition nor a >request for a returned favor! *shakes head in disbelieve* I'd recomend a quick getaway on a cute purple bike. And chalk up the experience as a lesson to keep your tongue in your mouth around the corpulent, sweaty, bald guys with carbuncles that post to dc-singles. --jon ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 14:35:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75IZJZ4001013; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:35:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75IZIPV001008; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:35:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Scott R. Russell" To: , Subject: RE: nags head Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:33:42 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <48.f78b475.2a801aa4@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Is that an offer to join you for the weekend? Scott Russell 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S -----Original Message----- From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX [mailto:Jennthebiker@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 2:15 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: nags head hi everyone :) im riding to nags head this weekend --- leaving the baltimore area around 4am on saturday --- leaving to return home about 4am on monday morning. (i have to be at work by 12:30pm on monday). im meeting up with my biker parents there. let me know if anyone is headed that way saturday or returning on monday! jtb :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 15:02:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75J2rZ4001560; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:02:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75J2pDm001543; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:02:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 210 Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 15:12:31 -0400 Message-ID: References: <196.af5fc57.2a7fde5c@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <196.af5fc57.2a7fde5c@aol.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g75J2nZ4001527 >By the way I see/hear about a zillion bike on MD 210 every weekend, where are >they going? They're going to a little sugar shack type of juke joint" rib place, down in masons springs. you follow 210 south down into st charles county, you turn left at the shell with the burger king across from it. You follow that road to the end.. hang a left.. then your next right is a grassy/gravel area filled with all types of bikes and cars.. check it out on a Sunday. Harley's, Goldwings, sportbikes. If they're not going there, they're probably going to budds creek. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 15:58:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75JwrZ4001887; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:58:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75JwrrA001880; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:58:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <122.1500ad45.2a8032f1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:58:41 EDT Subject: Re: heads up To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/5/2002 12:58:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sdave@XXXXXX writes: > No need to give the state or localities a financial incentive to seize > property, that creates a whole host of other problems... Yea, if they really wanted something fast they would just impound, oh I do not know... _YOUR_ bike! Impounding is bullshit, and I cannot believe it has survived court challenges of any kind. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 16:34:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75KYUZ4002145; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 16:34:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75KYT07002135; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 16:34:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 16:31:32 -0400 From: STmaven@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 210 Message-ID: <39AA3058.43CD0F62.001912B6@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Everyone calls that place "The Bottom". -Mark In a message dated Mon, 5 Aug 2002 2:12:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, motorcycle@XXXXXX writes: > > > > >By the way I see/hear about a zillion bike on MD 210 every weekend, where are > >they going? > > They're going to a little sugar shack type of juke joint" rib place, > down in masons springs. > > you follow 210 south down into st charles county, you turn left at > the shell with the burger king across from it. You follow that road > to the end.. hang a left.. then your next right is a grassy/gravel > area filled with all types of bikes and cars.. check it out on a > Sunday. Harley's, Goldwings, sportbikes. > > If they're not going there, they're probably going to budds > creek. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 17:29:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75LT2Z4002391; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:29:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75LT1MC002384; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:29:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805172723.02277260@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 17:28:57 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: At least I have my rain pants Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed ...oops...still drying in the garage at home. Looks like I'll be sitting at work for a little while. Doh! ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 17:37:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75LbRZ4002459; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:37:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75LbQBp002449; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:37:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <009301c23cc7$ee7070e0$0101a8c0@ELNcplvfr> From: "Travis" To: References: <17c.c28060c.2a7fc3a1@aol.com> <004501c23c78$277227d0$a500a8c0@C4ZJ911> Subject: Re: Sunday's Summit Point Photos Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:34:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 http://www.2wheeljunkie.com/photos/racephotos/020804/0804-025.jpg It's me cornerworking turn 1! Travis '01 SV650S '95 RC36 '91 GS500E '85 VF500 http://www.angelfire.com/extreme3/svbadguy ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Foreman To: ; Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 8:03 AM Subject: Sunday's Summit Point Photos > Sunday's Race Photos > > http://www.2wheeljunkie.com/photos/photos_index.htm > > > Gary Foreman > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 17:39:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75LdVZ4002495; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:39:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75LdVDi002489; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:39:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Scott R. Russell" To: "Troutman" , Subject: RE: At least I have my rain pants Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:36:42 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805172723.02277260@mail.wheatintl.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 If you go to Intellicast, the second storm is coming right behind it, except worse. Hope you get home sometime tonight. Severe weather advisory only for Montgomery County, as of now. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Troutman [mailto:mike@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 5:29 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: At least I have my rain pants ...oops...still drying in the garage at home. Looks like I'll be sitting at work for a little while. Doh! ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 18:11:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75MBmZ4002764; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 18:11:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75MBl6B002759; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 18:11:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <7a.2ae8173e.2a80521e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 18:11:42 EDT Subject: Re: nags head To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 umm.... hmm.... well... if anyone has the time and the money. id enjoy the company of everyone if all of you are interested! we can leave by 4am from baltimore on saturday morning (5/530ish from dc/northern va) and we can leave to return by 4am on monday morning. not to be rude, but once we're there... you're on your own! the parents dont have space for everyone in their hotel! who's in? jenn > Is that an offer to join you for the weekend? > > Scott Russell > 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX [mailto:Jennthebiker@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 2:15 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: nags head > > > hi everyone :) > > im riding to nags head this weekend --- leaving the baltimore area around > 4am > on saturday --- leaving to return home about 4am on monday morning. (i > have > to be at work by 12:30pm on monday). im meeting up with my biker parents > there. > > let me know if anyone is headed that way saturday or returning on monday! > > jtb :) > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 19:16:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75NGhZ4003453; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 19:16:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75NGftm003444; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 19:16:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020805231639.78052.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 16:16:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Moyer Subject: Triumph for sale (still) To: DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Fellas, and ladies: I posted a msg about a month or two back regarding a friend of mine in Leesburg who is trying to sell his 2000 Triumph Daytona 955i (yellow). For strictly financial reasons he is looking to sell and was asking ~$8000 if I recall correctly. Well, not having garnered much interest with the first offer, the price has fallen to $7000 or best reasonable offer; he is basically looking to have the loans paid off. I have seen the bike and it's in mint condition; it has maybe 2-3K miles on it if that. The guy is a good friend of mine and I know the machine has been well kept. If anyone is interested, remotely even, or knows of any friends that are looking for a great bike, or if your Mom wants one, whatever..., please contact me off list (I'm a digester, so I won't get posts to the list during the daytime). Props to the Mofos, Scott __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 19:17:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75NH4Z4003492; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 19:17:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75NH4un003487; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 19:17:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "dccycles" Subject: RE: nags head Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 19:16:56 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7a.2ae8173e.2a80521e@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2002 23:16:00.0883 (UTC) FILETIME=[0FFEF430:01C23CD6] Where is nags head? Sounds disgusting! Ricardo From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 19:31:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g75NVrZ4003794; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 19:31:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g75NVrT4003789; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 19:31:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Do Yin" To: Subject: Re: Sunday's Summit Point Photos Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 19:34:49 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200208052300.g75N0262003065@dirty.meretrix.com> looks like the perfect opp to sunbath. any regulations against taking a beach blanket out there and getting some tan while corner working? :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis" To: Subject: Re: Sunday's Summit Point Photos Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:34:49 -0400 http://www.2wheeljunkie.com/photos/racephotos/020804/0804-025.jpg It's me cornerworking turn 1! Travis '01 SV650S '95 RC36 '91 GS500E '85 VF500 http://www.angelfire.com/extreme3/svbadguy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 20:23:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g760NIZ4005489; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 20:23:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g760NHZQ005477; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 20:23:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805202230.029dfec0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 20:22:52 -0400 To: From: Troutman Subject: RE: At least I have my rain pants In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020805172723.02277260@mail.wheatintl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 05:36 PM 8/5/2002, Scott R. Russell wrote: >If you go to Intellicast, the second storm is coming right behind it, except >worse. Hope you get home sometime tonight. Severe weather advisory only >for Montgomery County, as of now. I kept close watch of radar images and skipped between two storms. Got home dry! ______________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org "Your glass is empty O'Flaherty, will you be having another?" "And why would I be wanting two empty glasses?" replied O'Flaherty. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 20:44:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g760iXZ4005593; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 20:44:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g760iXB8005588; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 20:44:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 20:44:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Hartzler X-X-Sender: ph@XXXXXX To: DC Cycles Subject: Minibike chain? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Loop-Detect: 1 Maybe someone on this list has ideas... I have a seventies vintage minibike (Rupp Continental Special) which mainly needs a new chain. Any ideas on where in the NOVA area I can go to pick up a length of the stuff? Specifically, according to http://www.mfgsupply.com/GoMiniChainInfo.html I need about five feet of #35 (3/8 x 3/16) Actually, it also needs some brake cable, the stuff seems a bit heavier than bicycle size. Again, any clues would be helpful. TIA, Pete. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 20:47:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g760lCZ4005651; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 20:47:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g760lBOr005645; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 20:47:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020806004709.66746.qmail@web21411.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 17:47:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Sunday's Summit Point Photos To: Travis , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <009301c23cc7$ee7070e0$0101a8c0@ELNcplvfr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Travis wrote: > It's me cornerworking turn 1! It looks more like you sitting smack in the middle of the runoff area. Living life on the edge... 8;) -- Larry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 21:18:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g761IWZ4005838; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 21:18:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g761IW3r005834; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 21:18:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.20020805211920.0139bf98@noid.org> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 21:19:52 -0400 To: DC Cycles From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: Minibike chain? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:44 PM 8/5/02 -0400, Peter Hartzler wrote: >Maybe someone on this list has ideas... I have a seventies vintage >minibike (Rupp Continental Special) which mainly needs a new chain. Any >ideas on where in the NOVA area I can go to pick up a length of the stuff? > >Specifically, according to http://www.mfgsupply.com/GoMiniChainInfo.html I >need about five feet of #35 (3/8 x 3/16) > >Actually, it also needs some brake cable, the stuff seems a bit heavier >than bicycle size. Again, any clues would be helpful. > >TIA, > >Pete. Not local, but at least online :-) Northern Tool sells minibike parts - http://www.northerntool.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=93&cg menbr=6970&PHOTOS=on -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 21:47:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g761lsZ4006362; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 21:47:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g761lpZ9006347; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 21:47:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 21:47:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Hartzler X-X-Sender: ph@XXXXXX To: Wayne Edelen cc: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Minibike chain? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20020805211920.0139bf98@noid.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Loop-Detect: 1 Hmm.. thanks... while the link you forwarded is interesting/helpful, I am unable to find the #35 there. I did see it at http://www.mfgsupply.com/ but am hoping to find it locally, both because it's more fun to paw over stuff in a store, and because there are sure to be other bits I'll want/need, once I get loose in the store I'm hoping exists... (I'm also hoping to have it this week, fwiw. :-) On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Wayne Edelen wrote: > Not local, but at least online :-) > > Northern Tool sells minibike parts - > http://www.northerntool.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=93&cgmenbr=6970&PHOTOS=on > > -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ > > At 08:44 PM 8/5/02 -0400, Peter Hartzler queried (paraphrased): > > > NOVA area I can go to pick up a length of #35 (3/8 x 3/16) roller > > (drive) chain and some minibike brake cable. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 5 22:49:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g762n5Z4007246; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 22:49:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g762n54A007238; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 22:49:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <74.20e0ec16.2a80930f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 22:48:47 EDT Subject: RE: nags head To: ricardo@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 Ricardo wrote: Where is nags head? Sounds disgusting! jenn's response: nags head is a beach town in north carolina. i guess i should have specified! now that the destination is clear --- who's going to join me on the ride to and/or from? :) jtb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 07:23:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76BN3Z4010280; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 07:23:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76BN2rV010267; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 07:23:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020806112300.13609.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 04:23:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Withrow Subject: Re: Minibike chain? To: Peter Hartzler , Wayne Edelen Cc: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know I have seen chain at Lowes, I don't know if they have #35 or not. It was in the specialty fasteners part of the store. Todd --- Peter Hartzler wrote: > Hmm.. thanks... while the link you forwarded is > interesting/helpful, I am > unable to find the #35 there. I did see it at > http://www.mfgsupply.com/ > but am hoping to find it locally, both because it's > more fun to paw over > stuff in a store, and because there are sure to be > other bits I'll > want/need, once I get loose in the store I'm hoping > exists... (I'm also > hoping to have it this week, fwiw. :-) > > On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Wayne Edelen wrote: > > > Not local, but at least online :-) > > > > Northern Tool sells minibike parts - > > > http://www.northerntool.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=93&cgmenbr=6970&PHOTOS=on > > > > -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ > > > > > At 08:44 PM 8/5/02 -0400, Peter Hartzler queried > (paraphrased): > > > > > NOVA area I can go to pick up a length of #35 > (3/8 x 3/16) roller > > > (drive) chain and some minibike brake cable. > > ===== AIM: Inf DS http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow ----------------------------------------------------------- Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 07:56:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76BuHZ4010555; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 07:56:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76BuHbu010550; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 07:56:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <21.21f99ee9.2a811359@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 07:56:09 EDT Subject: Re: Minibike chain? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/5/2002 8:44:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pete@XXXXXX writes: > Actually, it also needs some brake cable, the stuff seems a bit heavier > than bicycle size. Again, any clues would be helpful. > Shops used to make cables on the spot (I have made lots of them) but the equipment to do so has become hard to come by, as well as mechanics who know how. I would look for an OLD shop that may still have the equipment to do the job. Another option is to look for a small independent shop, they will sometimes make cables to fit. If I had the proper equipment myself I would do it for you, but I do not even know where to buy it anymore. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 08:08:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76C8NZ4010647; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:08:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76C8M9k010642; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:08:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:08:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Hartzler X-X-Sender: ph@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Minibike chain? In-Reply-To: <21.21f99ee9.2a811359@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Loop-Detect: 1 Hmm.. That's interesting. I can certainly melt and cast lead (or lead-free plumber's solder, which is slightly harder), need be. The bike's brake cable connects to the brake with a clamp, so it may not be too hard to find a workable cable. What's involved in making cable besides cutting to length and casting the end plug so it wets the cable? -ph On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > In a message dated 8/5/2002 8:44:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > pete@XXXXXX writes: > > > Actually, it also needs some brake cable, the stuff seems a bit heavier > > than bicycle size. Again, any clues would be helpful. > > > > Shops used to make cables on the spot (I have made lots of them) but the > equipment to do so has become hard to come by, as well as mechanics who know > how. I would look for an OLD shop that may still have the equipment to do the > job. Another option is to look for a small independent shop, they will > sometimes make cables to fit. > If I had the proper equipment myself I would do it for you, but I do not even > know where to buy it anymore. > > > John Walters (Long John) > PenguinBiker@XXXXXX > Up near DC > > Honda ST1100X Pan European > (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European > is now necessary {and I still like it.}) > BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles > Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 08:25:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76CPmZ4011052; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:25:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76CPlrP011042; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:25:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <1aa.64959cc.2a811a3d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:25:33 EDT Subject: Re: Minibike chain? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/6/2002 8:08:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pete@XXXXXX writes: > What's involved in making cable > besides cutting to length and casting the end plug so it wets the cable? Lead by itself does not seem to hold up too well. The "official" way is to use pre-manufactured brass ferrules and ideally a solder pot (a small electric pot filled with melted solder) The cable is fitted into the end of the ferrule and dipped into the pot and held there until the ferrule is as hot as the solder.* When it is removed and cooled it looks identical to a stock cable. If you can find a source for the ferrules they will most likely have bulk cable, both inner and outer, and all of the other gizmos that make up a cable. Last time I knew where to buy all of the stuff it would have cost over $100 to buy all of the stuff to make them. At the time that was a no-go for me. When I am fully into our new house, and have some spare change I will be looking into buying the stuff to make cables, but for now... *It can be done with a propane torch, but I like the pot a _lot_ better, both for look and durability. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 08:39:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76CdhZ4011275; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:39:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76CdhdU011271; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:39:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'Jennthebiker@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Weekender Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:39:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >I'm riding to nags head this weekend --- leaving the Baltimore area around 4am >on saturday --- leaving to return home about 4am on monday morning. (i have >to be at work by 12:30pm on monday). im meeting up with my biker parents >there. >let me know if anyone is headed that way saturday or returning on monday! jtb :) I'm doing the Blue Ridge. Maybe head down to Madison or Orange, maybe. Sunday I'll be up in Round Hill. I need to scoot over to Sharpsburg. Anyone into Civil war Battlefield rides? The weather is so pristine for the next few days... I just might take a day off to enjoy a nice romp gb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 08:44:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76CiwZ4011331; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:44:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76CiwRF011326; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:44:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Budds Creek Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:45:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >If they're not going there, they're probably going to budds creek. A great place to sell a bike too, in case your interested. I've sold 2 there and a friend in the building is selling one down there this weekend. Anyone interested in an 83 Kaw Gpz1100 (I think it's an 83)? Bought in Japan, a little more spirited than the U.S. version. I can get the particulars if you are interested. gb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 09:16:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76DGrZ4011663; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:16:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76DGqcn011658; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:16:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: Stevens John R DLVA To: "DC Cycles Mailing List (E-mail)" Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:16:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" (Catching up on e-mail after vacation, and jumping in late as usual:) Charles County Sheriff's Dept. has (or had - I haven't seen it in a year or so) at least one black Mustang GT... but it's marked. It seems to always be parked in front of Nick's on Rt. 5. (and jumping in VERY late:) I heared o' Indiana, PA... my H.S. girlfriend went to I.U.P. while I wandered around State College for 4+ years. John '02 VFR '77 GS750 (for sale, but not really trying) >-----Original Message----- >From: Troutman [mailto:mike@XXXXXX] >Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:58 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: heads up > > >Prince William County has had a purple Camaro for a couple of years >now. Likes to race people on the parkway then pull them over. That one is >unmarked - so I can understand the purchase. Why mark them? Maybe VA is >feeling envious of the Carolinias - one of the two has had Camaros for >years. Black and sneaky. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 09:18:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76DIWZ4011823; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:18:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76DIWrn011818; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:18:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020806131829.52392.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 06:18:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: nags head - and other weekend destinations. To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, ricardo@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <74.20e0ec16.2a80930f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'd love to, but I've been invited to lunch at Lambert's Restaurant in Sikeston, MO on Saturday. Anyone else want to tag along there? Mostly interstate riding, but I could be convinced to take some small roads on the way home. Leon. --- Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > nags head is a beach town in north carolina. > who's going to join me on > the ride to and/or from? :) > > jtb > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 09:21:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76DLGZ4011879; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:21:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76DLGFk011873; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:21:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020806092246.03bc59b0@mail.ncifcrf.gov> X-Sender: wilsonl@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 09:23:36 -0700 To: Leon Begeman , Jennthebiker@XXXXXX From: Lori Wilson Subject: Re: nags head - and other weekend destinations. Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020806131829.52392.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> References: <74.20e0ec16.2a80930f@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I'm off to VIR Thurs night. Will be riding the south track on Friday and watching the races on Sat and Sun.... Anyone else gonna be at VIR?? At 06:18 AM 8/6/02 -0700, Leon Begeman wrote: >I'd love to, but I've been invited to lunch at >Lambert's Restaurant in Sikeston, MO on Saturday. >Anyone else want to tag along there? Mostly >interstate riding, but I could be convinced to take >some small roads on the way home. > >Leon. >--- Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > nags head is a beach town in north carolina. > > > who's going to join me on > > the ride to and/or from? :) > > > > jtb > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better >http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 09:24:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76DOcZ4011949; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:24:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76DOaUT011930; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:24:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666B9A0@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'kari.vatjalainen@XXXXXX'" Subject: Need a bike in Finland? Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:29:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Contact her/him not me: From: Kari Vatjalainen I'm selling my bike, VF750S 1982 for 3600,- euro's. Bike is in a very good shape, mileage 87000 kilometers. Done some work since i bought it, it was customised and terrible to drive - now it's back to original (+ Highway-fairing and Givi saddle- and tailbags). Hate to sell it but life is live... going for custom, maybe a Magna???!!! There are 22 pics of the bike now at: http://photos.yahoo.com/hondavf750s klick first to "My Photos" and then to "Myytavana Honda.... " Take care, Kari Vatjalainen FINLAND BTW: Here is a link to finnish pages, a dealer who imports bikes from USA to Finland, they seem to have a V65 Sabre for sale, klick Moottoripyorat (eng. motorcycles). http://www.sompac.fi/ and an other one http://personal.inet.fi/yritys/hipower/ , they import bikes from Germany and Belgium to Finland. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 09:33:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76DXRZ4012019; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:33:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76DXQBu012006; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:33:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: Han Park To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Thanks Randy! Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:33:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Just wanted to say thanks to Randy Moran for helping a dc-cycles member at yesterdays Champion Motorsports track day. I don't know what I would have done without the shade and thanks for the advice and moving me up to the B group! han hpark@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 10:07:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76E7TZ4012242; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:07:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76E7Sn7012238; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:07:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "Bruhl, George LT" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Budds Creek Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 10:17:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g76E7RZ4012226 So you just go down there and park inside with a for sale sign? by the way a friend of mine had his trailer and race bike and all his stuff stolen from a track one time.. I dont' recall if it was budds or not. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 10:08:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76E8IZ4012288; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:08:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76E8ILl012281; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:08:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <013901c23d53$666e9be0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Leon Begeman" , , "Lori Wilson" Cc: References: <74.20e0ec16.2a80930f@aol.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020806092246.03bc59b0@mail.ncifcrf.gov> Subject: Re: nags head - and other weekend destinations. Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:01:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Nags Head, lunch in Missouri or VIR. As enticing as all these options are, I have a date to teach 24 folks how to ride motorcycles slowly around a parking lot. I rode to Kentucky for lunch once, but I think Leon has me beat. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori Wilson" To: "Leon Begeman" ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 12:23 PM Subject: Re: nags head - and other weekend destinations. > I'm off to VIR Thurs night. Will be riding the south track on Friday and > watching the races on Sat and Sun.... > Anyone else gonna be at VIR?? > > At 06:18 AM 8/6/02 -0700, Leon Begeman wrote: > >I'd love to, but I've been invited to lunch at > >Lambert's Restaurant in Sikeston, MO on Saturday. > >Anyone else want to tag along there? Mostly > >interstate riding, but I could be convinced to take > >some small roads on the way home. > > > >Leon. > >--- Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > > nags head is a beach town in north carolina. > > > > > who's going to join me on > > > the ride to and/or from? :) > > > > > > jtb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 10:16:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76EGwZ4012491; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:16:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76EGvpj012484; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:16:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [158.114.92.201] From: "Randy Moran" To: hpark@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Thanks Randy! Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 10:15:50 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Aug 2002 14:15:50.0522 (UTC) FILETIME=[C45415A0:01C23D53]

It was my pleasure, Han. All I know is you must have got hammered going home on your bike. I left about 10 minutes after you did and hit a toad-strangler that lasted all the way to Purcellville.

Anyway, I had a great time and I'm glad we all went home with bikes and bodies intact.

Randy Moran

 

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>Subject: Thanks Randy!

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From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 10:52:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76EqtZ4012981; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:52:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76Eqt4W012973; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:52:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 10:52:29 -0400 From: STmaven@XXXXXX To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, ricardo@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: nags head Message-ID: <04F12A42.54BC273B.001912B6@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry, can't make it to North Kikilackey. I'll be in Virgina Beach. :) Maybe next time... -Mark In a message dated Mon, 5 Aug 2002 9:48:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jennthebiker writes: > > > Ricardo wrote: > > Where is nags head? Sounds disgusting! > > jenn's response: > > nags head is a beach town in north carolina. i guess i should have > specified! now that the destination is clear --- who's > going to join me on > the ride to and/or from? :) > > jtb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 11:15:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76FFeZ4013134; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:15:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76FFeX9013130; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:15:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 08:15:29 -0700 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Subject: Next Bike Night @ CarPool Sender: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 65.36.86.136 Just a heads up to everyone that the next Bike Night will be at CarPool on Sunday, September 8th, 6-10pm. We promise to make sure they set aside reserved parking for motorcycles this time! Due to schedules, Kitchell and I (yes, the same duo that Gimer has alluded to!) weren't able to set anything up for this month. Hope we can get a big turnout for this one. On another note, this might possibly be the last Bike Night that Mark and I organize (depends if we do another one at Grevey's). We've decided that we don't have the time to do this after this year. So anyone in the group want to pick up the ball and run with it??? Chuck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 11:22:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76FMPZ4013202; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:22:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76FMPlZ013197; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:22:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 08:22:23 -0700 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Next Bike Night @ CarPool Sender: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 65.36.86.136 BTW, we could use everyone's help in advertising this Bike Night beyond the list. Especially if it's going to be the last one Mark and I do, we'd love to have a big "blowout." Please forward the info on to other lists and individuals. We might even do up fliers and would appreciate any volunteers to post them around. Much thanx! Chuck On Tue, 06 Aug 2002 08:15:29 -0700 cvkgpena@XXXXXX wrote: > Just a heads up to everyone that the next Bike > Night will be at CarPool on > Sunday, September 8th, 6-10pm. We promise to > make sure they set aside > reserved parking for motorcycles this time! > Due to schedules, Kitchell and I > (yes, the same duo that Gimer has alluded to!) > weren't able to set anything up > for this month. Hope we can get a big turnout > for this one. > > On another note, this might possibly be the > last Bike Night that Mark and I > organize (depends if we do another one at > Grevey's). We've decided that we > don't have the time to do this after this year. > So anyone in the group want > to pick up the ball and run with it??? > > Chuck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 11:33:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76FXOZ4013420; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:33:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76FXOnE013416; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:33:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Scott R. Russell" To: Subject: Next Bike Day Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:31:53 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Would like to know if people are interested in a DC Cycles day at the Maryland Renaissance Festival. This is a great day to join the fun, have a few drinks, a couple of turkey legs, shopping, etc...... The weekend is Saturday or Sunday, September 28/29, which is going to be a great weekend there. There are a few things going on at the same time such as: 1. Singles weekend - featured at the festival, should be fun (then you all can meet JTB if she shows up lol) 2. AFR weekend - This is a newsgroup that posts with renaissance people from all over, they schedule an annual invasion of faires. There promises to be many wenches and rogues, homemade wines and liquors abreast. 3. The Mediaeval Baebes - This is a female group from the UK that is coming for a limited time only (sounds like a comercial). Their link is as follows www.mediaevalbaebes.com/ Their is plenty of motorcycle parking up front and a good ride from Rt. 50 to Rt. 3 to Rt. 450, nice back road. I am also an actor there but will not state whom I am nor what I do for the moment. Scott Russell 1984 CB700SC Nighthawk S P.S. This a nice day, better not waste it From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 11:33:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76FXQZ4013455; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:33:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76FXQ6w013451; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:33:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Scott R. Russell" To: , Subject: RE: Next Bike Night @ CarPool Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:31:54 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I can attempt to be there, but it will be late. I cannot leave Crownsville until 7 due to work at the festival. Plus drive time which will make it about 8. Scott -----Original Message----- From: cvkgpena@XXXXXX [mailto:cvkgpena@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 11:15 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Next Bike Night @ CarPool Just a heads up to everyone that the next Bike Night will be at CarPool on Sunday, September 8th, 6-10pm. We promise to make sure they set aside reserved parking for motorcycles this time! Due to schedules, Kitchell and I (yes, the same duo that Gimer has alluded to!) weren't able to set anything up for this month. Hope we can get a big turnout for this one. On another note, this might possibly be the last Bike Night that Mark and I organize (depends if we do another one at Grevey's). We've decided that we don't have the time to do this after this year. So anyone in the group want to pick up the ball and run with it??? Chuck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 11:41:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76FfeZ4013887; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:41:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76Ffew3013882; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:41:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:41:30 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: MacDa@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Next Bike Day Message-ID: <08BAC35F.6E67F35D.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sounds like fun. I don't THINK I have any plans for that weekend. So far. :-) Saturday would probably be best. Scooter In a message dated Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:31:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, MacDa@XXXXXX writes: > > > Would like to know if people are interested in a DC Cycles day at the > Maryland Renaissance Festival. This is a great day to join the fun, have a > few drinks, a couple of turkey legs, shopping, etc...... > > The weekend is Saturday or Sunday, September 28/29, which is going to be a > great weekend there. There are a few things going on at the same time such > as: > > 1. Singles weekend - featured at the festival, should be fun (then you all > can meet JTB if she shows up lol) > 2. AFR weekend - This is a newsgroup that posts with renaissance people > from all over, they schedule an annual invasion of faires. There promises > to be many wenches and rogues, homemade wines and liquors abreast. > 3. The Mediaeval Baebes - This is a female group from the UK that is coming > for a limited time only (sounds like a comercial). > Their link is as follows www.mediaevalbaebes.com/ > > Their is plenty of motorcycle parking up front and a good ride from Rt. 50 > to Rt. 3 to Rt. 450, nice back road. I am also an actor > there but will not > state whom I am nor what I do for the moment. > > Scott Russell > 1984 CB700SC Nighthawk S > > P.S. This a nice day, better not waste it From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 12:19:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76GJtZ4014476; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:19:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76GJs91014466; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:19:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:19:30 -0400 From: "Docs@Shore" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60c) Personal Reply-To: "Docs@Shore" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1176338765.20020806121930@shore.net> To: "Scott R. Russell" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Next Bike Day In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Scott, Tuesday, August 6, 2002, 11:31:53 AM, you wrote: SRR> Would like to know if people are interested in a DC Cycles day at the SRR> Maryland Renaissance Festival. This is a great day to join the fun, have a SRR> few drinks, a couple of turkey legs, shopping, etc...... SRR> The weekend is Saturday or Sunday, September 28/29, which is going to be a SRR> great weekend there. There are a few things going on at the same time such SRR> as: Sounds like a winner to me. I've heard the Mediaeval Baebes CDs, and they are *excellent*. Might even be able to drag a fellow rider or two along, even. Doc <1984 FXR, 1973 XLCH in basket> -- State Officer for Virginia Loudoun County, VA Chapter 156, Southern Cruisers Riding Club #156148 http://www.southerncruisers.net Southern Cruisers, National http://www.geocities.com/scruisers_loudoun/ Chapter 156, VA Website http://www.docsharleypages.com Doc's Harley Pages From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 12:50:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76Go3Z4015360; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:50:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76Go1xj015354; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:50:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Fwd: Injured Employee From Bicycle Mishap at JPL Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:47:36 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0208061247360M.01208@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I wonder just how fast this guy was travelling. Carl ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Injured Employee From Bicycle Mishap at JPL Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:12:06 -0400 From: James Lloyd To: xxx Peter Robles, of the JPL NMO, has reported the following mishap to have occurred at JPL last evening. Information is being sent to the Agency mishap distribution listserver to provide the widest distribution to people that are wanting to be informed of serious mishaps. Incident Summary: At approximately 1733 hours on 5 Aug 02, engine 1 and rescue 1 responded to the North exterior of Bldg. 277 along Explorer road for a reported "man down." JPL fire and rescue crews requested Los Angeles County Fire Department on scene prior to arrival. Upon arrival, fire and rescue crews found patient laying on right lateral side along Explorer Road. JPL fire and rescue crews had JPL security stop and block traffic while crews began to perform primary and secondary assessments. Patient was immediately placed on high flow O2 [oxygen]. Upon assessment, patient was also found to be bleeding from mouth and nose, and had sustained abrasions to upper extremities. Also found was a hematoma on right parietal and a dilated left eye pupil. JPL fire and rescue crews took C-spine precautions and continued the assessment. Patient was able to understand and comply with hand grip motor commands but had no response to foot motor commands or stimulations. Patient was transported code 3 by Los Angeles Fire Department paramedics to Huntington Memorial Hospital for further treatment. Note: Bystanders stated the patient was riding his bicycle east-bound along Explorer Road when a deer reportedly ran out in front of him. The patient turned to avoid deer, lost control of front wheel and fell off the bicycle, landing on his back. He reportedly slid on his back for approximately 25 feet coming to rest on his right side. Jim ------------------------------------------------------- -- Carl Schelin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 14:08:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76I87Z4015938; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:08:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76I864h015930; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:08:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666B9A9@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Subject: Motorcyclist dies on `Dragon' Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:12:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Motorcyclist dies on `Dragon' http://www.thedailytimes.com/sited/story/html/100998 2002-08-05 by Erin Hudson of The Daily Times Staff A Florida man was killed Sunday afternoon on Calderwood Highway when he lost control of his motorcycle and plunged down an embankment. Lendry R. Obanna Jr., 24, of Jacksonville, Fla., was driving his 2000 Yamaha R6 on north Calderwood Highway near Parson Branch Road around 12:30 p.m. Sunday. He apparently lost control while negotiating a curve approximately three miles north of the North Carolina line, Tennessee Highway Patrol State Trooper Phil Little said. The motorcycle left the roadway and went down a 50-foot embankment. Obanna was hurled into a tree, Little said. Obanna was wearing a helmet, but suffered severe internal injuries in the crash. According to Eric Overton with the Blount County Rescue Squad, three paramedics from the squad attempted to revive Obanna, who had been pulled up the embankment to the roadway by other motorcyclists. ``Unfortunately, our guys arrived too late to do anything for him,'' Overton said. Rural/Metro Ambulance Service personnel, Blount County firefighters and Blount County Sheriff's deputies assisted the Tennessee Highway Patrol at the accident scene. Obanna's accident marks the second motorcycle fatality on the Dragon in 2002. The Dragon is the stretch of U.S. 129/Calderwood Highway from Tabcat Bridge to Deal's Gap at the Tennessee/North Carolina line. The stretch is famous to motorcyclists for its 318 curves in 11 miles. Obanna's death is the 12th vehicular fatality in Blount County in 2002. [Smokies Traveler] From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 14:56:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76Iu0Z4016242; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:56:00 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76ItxOn016235; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:55:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:58:52 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: tire mounting around Reston? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mother F$#()*#! crap... I got another flat, second this year. This time its a small nail. I discoverd it while washing the bike after a nice long ride, made some really nice bubbles. Already have the tire on the way, just need someone to mount and balance it. I think the VFR wheel is a little different in that it requires some special adapter for balancing? Anyone know where to get this done for a reasonable charge around Reston? Thanks, Dan -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 15:17:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76JHlZ4016416; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 15:17:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76JHjnD016405; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 15:17:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <412002826192134920@earthlink.net> X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #3003520714B31D032830 X-Priority: Reply-To: fgrefe@XXXXXX X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 5.0.6.8 (Windows) From: "Fred Grefe" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: tire mounting around Reston? Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 15:21:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > just need someone to mount and balance it. I think the VFR wheel is a > little different in that it requires some special adapter for balancing? If this is your rear wheel go to an automotive shop. I take my front wheel (single sided swingarm) to Costco for changes. They charge about $7-8 for mounting, balancing, and disposal of the old one. --- Fred Grefe GTS1000 - for From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 16:25:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g76KPkZ4017320; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 16:25:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g76KPjBH017312; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 16:25:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <412002826202626440@earthlink.net> X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #3003520714B31D032830 X-Priority: Reply-To: fastandwily@XXXXXX X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 5.0.6.8 (Windows) From: "Scott Luttrell " To: "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: tire mounting around Reston? Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 16:26:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Mother F$#()*#! crap... I got another flat, second this year. This time > its a small nail. I discoverd it while washing the bike after a nice long > ride, made some really nice bubbles. Already have the tire on the way, > just need someone to mount and balance it. I think the VFR wheel is a > little different in that it requires some special adapter for balancing? > Anyone know where to get this done for a reasonable charge around Reston? > > Thanks, > > Dan > > -- It's almost always the rear tire that grabs the nail. The front (cheaper) tire runs over the same pavement and yet somehow its the mid section of the rear ($$$) Scott Luttrell Fast & Wily Racing fastandwily@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 20:58:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g770wEZ4019081; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 20:58:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g770wDio019077; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 20:58:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <135.127934ce.2a81ca96@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 20:57:58 EDT Subject: Re: Motorcyclist dies on `Dragon' To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/6/2002 2:08:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Carl.Custer@XXXXXX writes: > ``Unfortunately, our guys arrived too late to do anything for him,'' Overton > said. Lesson here? Learn First Aid and CPR and be ready to use it. I keep a First Aid kit (including CPR mask) in the tail of my bike. Not a brag, just pointing out how small they can be. You just never know when a buddy will need your help. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 21:03:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77135Z4019288; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:03:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77135LY019281; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:03:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 18:03:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Motorcyclist dies on `Dragon' In-Reply-To: <135.127934ce.2a81ca96@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > In a message dated 8/6/2002 2:08:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Carl.Custer@XXXXXX writes: > > > ``Unfortunately, our guys arrived too late to do anything for him,'' Overton > > said. > > Lesson here? > Learn First Aid and CPR and be ready to use it. I keep a First Aid kit > (including CPR mask) in the tail of my bike. Not a brag, just pointing out > how small they can be. You just never know when a buddy will need your help. >From the 'Busa message board, a thread about the deaths... http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=013172 -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 21:03:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7713SZ4019325; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:03:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7713SrI019317; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:03:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <190.b0b8b7f.2a81cbd7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:03:19 EDT Subject: Re: tire mounting around Reston? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/6/2002 4:26:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, fastandwily@XXXXXX writes: > It's almost always the rear tire that grabs the nail. The front (cheaper) > tire runs over the same pavement and yet somehow its the mid section of the > rear ($$$) Nail just lays there on its side, front tire hits it throws it spinning into the rear tire, hisssssssss and lots of cussing. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 22:30:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g772UJZ4019962; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 22:30:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g772UHfS019958; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 22:30:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020807023014.44726.qmail@web20704.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 19:30:14 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Help finding AWOL Ventura bag and rack To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Somewhere on or just south of the 14th street bridge on 395 northbound my ventura rack flew off. Some cars behind me beeped and informed me of that but I didn't see it when I went back to look. So if anybody spots it (should be on left side of road on main 395 (not HOV)) and picks it up, a quantity of your favorite beverage will be provided. Thanks for looking. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 22:59:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g772xVZ4020228; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 22:59:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g772xVor020223; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 22:59:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "LindaT." To: "Lori Wilson" Cc: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: nags head - and other weekend destinations. Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 22:59:20 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020806092246.03bc59b0@mail.ncifcrf.gov> Me! Me! I'll also be riding the south track Friday (afternoon). I'll be wearing my black perfed vanson leathers and riding my black R1100RT. Maybe I'll see you there. LindaT. Custom TankBags Now - TankBags for 1800 Wings Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) AMA IBA HSTA BMWBMW 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.customtankbags.com Lori Wilson said: I'm off to VIR Thurs night. Will be riding the south track on Friday and watching the races on Sat and Sun.... Anyone else gonna be at VIR?? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 23:12:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g773CcZ4020450; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 23:12:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g773CbLm020445; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 23:12:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [207.172.11.147] From: "Marc Washington" To: ljtanner@XXXXXX, wilsonl@XXXXXX Cc: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: RE: nags head - and other weekend destinations. Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 23:11:30 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2002 03:11:30.0983 (UTC) FILETIME=[209ADB70:01C23DC0] >From: "LindaT." >To: "Lori Wilson" >Me! Me! I'll also be riding the south track Friday (afternoon). I'll be I'll be there Thursday through Sunday. Myself and a few friends will be there with a camper all weekend. I'm not bringing my though so I won't be riding :( Anyway, If you sea a bald guy with red beard/Goatee acting like an idiot near a camper stop by folks! How many others are going _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 6 23:55:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g773tqZ4020904; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 23:55:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g773tpMJ020895; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 23:55:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020806235400.0311e8b0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rmeyer9@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 23:55:44 -0400 To: Wayne Edelen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Motorcyclist dies on `Dragon' In-Reply-To: References: <135.127934ce.2a81ca96@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 06:03 PM 8/6/02 -0700, Wayne Edelen wrote: >On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > > In a message dated 8/6/2002 2:08:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > Carl.Custer@XXXXXX writes: > > > > > ``Unfortunately, our guys arrived too late to do anything for him,'' > Overton > > > said. > > > > Lesson here? > > Learn First Aid and CPR and be ready to use it. I keep a First Aid kit > > (including CPR mask) in the tail of my bike. Not a brag, just pointing out > > how small they can be. You just never know when a buddy will need your > help. Lesson! Hell, the guy slammed into a tree at (presumably) high speed. He had severe internal injuries. CPR wasn't going to save this guy. The real lesson ought to be not to ride over your head. Bob From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 00:19:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g774JOZ4021158; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:19:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g774JNOW021153; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:19:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020807041920.8735.qmail@web10508.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:19:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Withrow Subject: RE: nags head - and other weekend destinations. To: Marc Washington , ljtanner@XXXXXX, wilsonl@XXXXXX Cc: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'll be there Fri. - Sun. with the wife and kids. no bike, just my green F150 SuperCrew Todd --- Marc Washington wrote: > > > > >From: "LindaT." > >To: "Lori Wilson" > > >Me! Me! I'll also be riding the south track > Friday (afternoon). I'll be > > I'll be there Thursday through Sunday. Myself and a > few friends will be > there with a camper all weekend. I'm not bringing > my though so I won't be > riding :( > > Anyway, If you sea a bald guy with red beard/Goatee > acting like an idiot > near a camper stop by folks! > > How many others are going > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print > your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > ===== AIM: Inf DS http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow ----------------------------------------------------------- Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 00:26:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g774QNZ4021363; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:26:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g774QMQm021356; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:26:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 00:28:54 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Bob Meyer cc: Wayne Edelen , Subject: Re: Motorcyclist dies on `Dragon' In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020806235400.0311e8b0@pop.east.cox.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >The real > lesson ought to be not to ride over your head. > > Bob > If we are going to get into "lessons", one I don't see metioned often enough is to leave a margin for error. A lot of the recent serious wrecks in the twisties I've read about have been experienced riders, who I'm sure felt confident about the turn they were in, but they misjudged. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 08:10:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77CApZ4023917; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:10:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77CAoNN023908; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:10:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'ricardo@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'dccycles'" Subject: Nags Head Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:10:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Ricardo Pontes" <> To: "> Subject: RE: nags head Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 19:16:56 -0400 Where is nags head? Sounds disgusting! Ricardo =============================== Nags Head (Outer Banks) is in North Carolina 60 or 70 miles south of the Virginia Beach area. History lesson: Back in the old days the pirates used to run a "nag" (Horse) up and down the sand dunes with a lantern tied around the neck of the animal. This was to simulate a ship in a the rough seas around the outer banks (which is the typical sea state). Anyway... ships farther out would think a ship was closer in and head in under the assumption that it was "good" water... when in fact they would go aground and the pirates would row out and ransack the cargo. Hence the name Nags Head.... Kitty Hawk is right there... where the Wright Brothers took their first flights... they picked the area because of the prevailing winds. It USED to be a beautiful place to go.... just 20 years ago if you went south to Cape Hatteras, you had better pack your own groceries or you didn't eat! I used to ride down there and camp a lot, at the time I was living in Elizabeth City NC so it was a 2 hour ride down a deserted beach road... the mosquitoes were absolutely terrible... netting was a must have item in the saddlebags. The developers moved in and built is up considerably, now it's just a traffic jam in the summer and pretty much boarded up after that... The Blue fish used to run there but I hear the Blue fishing has slacked off the last 4 or 5 years. However the Bluefish have disappeared before. Back in the 30's they left for other feeding areas and it wasn't until like 1962 that they returned in force. So for 30+ years they were in that area strong, during their migration cycle. Probably more than you wanted to know. Oh... and sandy chains with rusty chrome was the norm in that area. gb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 08:55:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77CtwZ4024290; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:55:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77Ctvxf024282; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:55:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020807085657.03a31180@mail.ncifcrf.gov> X-Sender: wilsonl@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 08:58:25 -0700 To: "LindaT." From: Lori Wilson Subject: RE: VIR destination South track :) Cc: "DC-CYCLES" In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020806092246.03bc59b0@mail.ncifcrf.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I'll be wearing my grey and black custom suit from Barnicle bill. (with my name on it)...and riding an Aprilia Mille, Falco and Futura.... But my bright yellow VFR will be track side too... At 10:59 PM 8/6/02 -0400, LindaT. wrote: >Me! Me! I'll also be riding the south track Friday (afternoon). I'll be >wearing my black perfed vanson leathers and riding my black R1100RT. > >Maybe I'll see you there. > >LindaT. >Custom TankBags >Now - TankBags for 1800 Wings >Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) >AMA IBA HSTA BMWBMW >99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy >95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) >00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing >http://www.customtankbags.com > >Lori Wilson said: > > >I'm off to VIR Thurs night. Will be riding the south track on Friday and >watching the races on Sat and Sun.... >Anyone else gonna be at VIR?? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 08:58:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77Cw5Z4024453; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:58:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77Cw5U8024445; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:58:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 7 Aug 2002 12:58:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20020807125804.29473.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Nags Head X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) GB instructs us - >Nags Head (Outer Banks) is in North Carolina 60 or 70 miles south of the >Virginia Beach area. >History lesson: Back in the old days the pirates used to run a "nag" >(Horse) up and down the sand dunes with a lantern tied around the neck of >the animal. This was to simulate a ship in a the rough seas around the >outer banks (which is the typical sea state). Anyway... ships farther out >would think a ship was closer in and head in under the assumption that it >was "good" water... when in fact they would go aground and the pirates >would row out and ransack the cargo. Hence the name Nags Head.... Kitty >Hawk is right there... where the Wright Brothers took their first >flights... they picked the area because of the prevailing winds. [Dave] OB encompasses (some consider Duck), Kill Devil Hills, Kitty Hawk, Nags Head, ?????? & Manteo has some sound side property. >It USED to be a beautiful place to go.... just 20 years ago if you went >south to Cape Hatteras, you had better pack your own groceries or you didn't >eat! [Dave] It *STILL IS* a beautiful place to go. One year, I drove from Nags Head, through Ocracoke via the 2 ferrys past Oak Island down to Cape Lookout. Because it looked like an all day affair, I left early. Good thing, it was an all day affair, and the only place to get gas before the Ocracoke ferry thank goodness had credit card 'pay at the pump' islands - $50 reserve be DAMNED ;-) I used to ride down there and camp a lot, at the time I was living in >Elizabeth City NC so it was a 2 hour ride down a deserted beach road... the >mosquitoes were absolutely terrible... netting was a must have item in the >saddlebags. The developers moved in and built is up considerably, now it's >just a traffic jam in the summer and pretty much boarded up after that... [Dave] I must stick up & defend Nags Head (my honeymoon town !). Traffic is NOWHERE NEAR Ocean $hitty levels, you can actually do the 50 mph speed limit on the main strip (12?). Nags Head beaches are Dog Friendly too (for responsible pet owners that don't allow their animals to leave gifts.. ) Kill Devil Hills is not... 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From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 09:11:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77DBjZ4024689; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:11:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77DBi92024680; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:11:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:11:37 -0400 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664090E1@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: VIR destination South track :) Thread-Index: AcI+Eob273HHcrcmQa2esZLc/rDGBgAALAdp From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" Cc: "DC-CYCLES" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g77DBhZ4024668 I would like to tranport a bike from Philly to DC. I found exactly what I wanted, for the price I wanted :) I have no car, so this would have to involve a rented vehicle. I was thinking of renting a small/mid size Uhaul/Ryder truck, as they have lower profile and have ramps? But how do I secure the bike once I get it inside? Does anyone have any suggestions/advice? Witold From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 09:26:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77DQrZ4024922; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:26:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77DQrIt024917; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:26:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <005b01c23e15$f866b0b0$561452a4@D7LVNR01> Reply-To: "Patti Rodgers" From: "Patti Rodgers" To: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" Cc: "DC-CYCLES" References: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664090E1@rnc1.rnchq.org> Subject: Re: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:25:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 >>I have no car, so this would have to involve a rented vehicle. I was thinking of renting a small/mid size >>Uhaul/Ryder truck, as they have lower profile and have ramps? But how do I secure the bike once I >>get it inside? Witold, If you rent a pickup truck from UHaul, you can rent additionally a motorcycle trailer. I believe it is about $15 more. You have to let them know ahead of time but I've never had a problem getting one when I needed it. They will mount the hitch to the truck and attach the trailer for you. All you have to do is drive away. IMHO it's worth $15 simply to not have to push the bike up a ramp! Once the bike is in the trailer you can tie it down using nylon tie-down straps. I've used clothesline (nylon) as well with no problems. Make sure there is no slack in the line once the bike is tied down. I do this by wrapping the line around itself, which pulls everything tighter. Since you are probably going to be on I-95 you'll be going fast and will need to secure the bike accordingly... pass the line through the grab bar at least once (assuming the bike has a grab bar); through the forks, etc. To make sure it is road-ready you can push on the bike a bit and see if it gives. We've brought bikes back from as far as Kansas this way, with no problems. ANother alternative: if you are confident in the bike being mechanically sound, and in your abilities, you can get "transport tags" from any insurance agent in PA. Ask the seller to pick them up for you. It allows you to ride the bike on the street for 48 hours with the registration not yet transferred from the seller. Kind of like standard DMV temporary tags but you have not made it to the DMV yet. Take a bus or train up, ask the seller to meet you somewhere near where you come in, and ride the bike back. Good luck! -patti '95 Yamaha Virago '69 BSA FireBird From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 09:29:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77DTdZ4025124; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:29:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77DTdFg025115; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:29:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.48.118.251] From: "Rob Keiser" To: Witold@XXXXXX Cc: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 09:28:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2002 13:28:33.0187 (UTC) FILETIME=[538EDF30:01C23E16] I'm assuming you have other stuff to bring down, or riding it here would be the best solution. Otherwise, get yourself some good soft ties and tie downs. Most of these trucks (that I've seen) have some kind of rails on the walls. You can use these to wrap the tie downs to and then hook on to the soft ties your wrap around the bike's handlebars or triple clamp and rear peg mounts or other handles, if it has them. Then take it easy on the road, and stop to check it out every so often. Just my two cents. What kind of bike is it? Rob '98 VFR800 From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" CC: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:11:37 -0400 I would like to tranport a bike from Philly to DC. I found exactly what I wanted, for the price I wanted :) I have no car, so this would have to involve a rented vehicle. I was thinking of renting a small/mid size Uhaul/Ryder truck, as they have lower profile and have ramps? But how do I secure the bike once I get it inside? Does anyone have any suggestions/advice? Witold _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 09:42:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77DgOZ4025338; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:42:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77DgOml025334; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:42:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: RE: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:42:17 -0400 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664090E2@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Transporting a bike Thread-Index: AcI+FlVZKie1ZlfoRk2UnhPCIhKK1wAAPWHt From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g77DgMZ4025322 >What kind of bike is it? It's an R6. I've never had to transport a bike before, and tying it down with straps just makes me nervous :) I don't really know where the straps should go, how many I need, and how to determine if my work will *hold* for the 250miles or so :) That's why I was considering getting one of those rear wheel stands, and tying the bike down inside a Uhaul truck.... Witold -----Original Message----- From: Rob Keiser [mailto:robkeiser@XXXXXX] Sent: Wed 8/7/2002 9:28 AM To: Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services Cc: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Transporting a bike I'm assuming you have other stuff to bring down, or riding it here would be the best solution. Otherwise, get yourself some good soft ties and tie downs. Most of these trucks (that I've seen) have some kind of rails on the walls. You can use these to wrap the tie downs to and then hook on to the soft ties your wrap around the bike's handlebars or triple clamp and rear peg mounts or other handles, if it has them. Then take it easy on the road, and stop to check it out every so often. Just my two cents. What kind of bike is it? Rob '98 VFR800 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 09:45:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77DjPZ4025525; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:45:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77DjOFG025521; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:45:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:48:03 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Rob Keiser cc: Witold@XXXXXX, Subject: Re: Transporting a bike In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Otherwise, get yourself some good soft ties and tie downs. Most of these > trucks (that I've seen) have some kind of rails on the walls. You can use > these to wrap the tie downs to and then hook on to the soft ties your wrap Problem is these are on the walls. You really want something on the floor. The guy I sold my V-star to brought up an enclosed trailer from u-haul. We had a tough time securing the bike. I think the motorcycle trailer is going to be the best option. I'm a big fan of tying down the bars and compressing the front wheel against the front wall/rail. You might need to make special considerations based on the actual bike in regards to straping it down. I know my vfr needs a canyon dancer like setup to not damage the body work. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 09:49:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77DnoZ4025699; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:49:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77DnoFm025692; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:49:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tire mounting around Reston? Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 09:59:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <190.b0b8b7f.2a81cbd7@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <190.b0b8b7f.2a81cbd7@aol.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g77DnnZ4025680 So we should install little rubber flaps on our belly pans then? On Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:03:19 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 8/6/2002 4:26:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >fastandwily@XXXXXX writes: > >> It's almost always the rear tire that grabs the nail. The front (cheaper) >> tire runs over the same pavement and yet somehow its the mid section of the >> rear ($$$) > >Nail just lays there on its side, front tire hits it throws it spinning into >the rear tire, hisssssssss and lots of cussing. > > >John. >PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 09:51:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77DpfZ4025866; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:51:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77Dpf5g025860; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:51:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Scott, Wellesley E." To: "'DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:48:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I'd skip U-Haul and look into renting a Ranger or other pick-up from someone like Enterprise. The last time I did it the rental was $19.95 a day for unlimited miles. If you can manage to rent a pick-up I would buy some tie-downs. There are two varieties that are commonly available: the rachet and non-rachet types. I actually prefer the non-ratchet type as that avoids the tendency to over-tighten and break any pieces. With the bike (via a ramp---I'm sure I or someone I know could loan/rent you one for the day) on the truck I usually hook or loop the tie-downs to the bars and anchor the other ends to the front corner of the truck bed. I then compress the shocks completely and shake the bike to see if it's stable. You can add additional tie downs to the rear or other parts of the frame but it is not usually necessary. When you first take off down the block, I suggest rapidly turning the wheel back and forth while keeping an eye on the bike. Either you'll have to look in the mirror or your passenger can watch. If you notice too much wobbling or anything, then stop the truck and re-tighten the straps otherwise you're ready to head home. When unloading the bike be careful when you undo the tie-downs and have someone steady the bike lest the bike decide it would be much happier leaning against the bed of the truck. Feel free to ask if you have any questions. Wellesley Subject: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:11:37 -0400 I would like to tranport a bike from Philly to DC. I found exactly what I wanted, for the price I wanted :) I have no car, so this would have to involve a rented vehicle. I was thinking of renting a small/mid size Uhaul/Ryder truck, as they have lower profile and have ramps? But how do I secure the bike once I get it inside? Does anyone have any suggestions/advice? Witold _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 10:20:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77EKUZ4026212; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:20:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77EKTGo026204; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:20:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" Subject: Re: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:18:12 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Cc: "DC-CYCLES" References: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664090E1@rnc1.rnchq.org> In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664090E1@rnc1.rnchq.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0208071018120Y.01208@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Unfortunately I can't remember the magazine but there was an article in a recent motorcycle magazine (Hot Bikes or one of those) on transporting bikes. Basically use a 4x4 block of wood under the frame. Cinch down the frontend, maybe at the handle bars and head mount (2 sets of straps) If you think it needs it, a second 4x4 block under the back part of the frame. Cinch down the backend, again with two sets of straps. There was a couple of more suggestions but I liked the 4x4 idea. You can cinch the bike down tight without blowing out the shocks. Carl On Wednesday 07 August 2002 09:11, Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services wrote: > I would like to tranport a bike from Philly to DC. I found exactly what I > wanted, for the price I wanted :) > > I have no car, so this would have to involve a rented vehicle. I was > thinking of renting a small/mid size Uhaul/Ryder truck, as they have lower > profile and have ramps? But how do I secure the bike once I get it inside? > > Does anyone have any suggestions/advice? > > Witold > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 10:29:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77ETQZ4026513; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:29:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77ETPTr026508; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:29:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:32:12 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Carl Schelin cc: DC-CYCLES Subject: Re: Transporting a bike In-Reply-To: <0208071018120Y.01208@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > There was a couple of more suggestions but I liked the 4x4 idea. You can > cinch the bike down tight without blowing out the shocks. > > Carl > How can you blow out the shocks when people do stoppies all day long and somehow their shocks still work dandy? I'm thinkin shock blowouts from tieing the bike down is an urban legend. I guess I'll stop when I get my first blow out. Till then.... Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 10:43:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77EhMZ4026651; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:43:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77EhLk5026646; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:43:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <007c01c23e20$a62d56e0$561452a4@D7LVNR01> Reply-To: "Patti Rodgers" From: "Patti Rodgers" To: Cc: References: Subject: Re: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:42:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 http://www.chariot-trailer.com/biketie.htm This site is definitely trying to sell you *their* straps and stuff, but the advice and method is basically the same. Some good pointers here! RE: renting a pickup from Enterprise, etc... that's a good idea, because it is a lot less expensive than paying by the mile from U-Haul. Last time I rented a pickup truck, though, it came with a hard metal cover for the bed. The rental place did not provide keys for it and I did not think to ask for them. I didn't really need to haul anything but if I had, I would have been in major trouble! If this is the route you're gonna go, make sure you can unlock that cover! -patti From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 10:45:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77EjqZ4026698; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:45:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77EjqM3026692; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:45:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD511F20F@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:46:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Why can't the bike be ridden back??? I've ridden to Philly before, sure there's no twisties... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 10:47:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77ElMZ4026743; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:47:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77ElLVJ026737; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:47:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Scott, Wellesley E." To: Cc: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:44:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" RE: the cover on the trucks... It can be removed in 15 minutes with a set of allen keys or a socket set. Some may use torques but I haven't seen those in some time. -----Original Message----- From: Patti Rodgers [mailto:mprodgers@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:42 AM To: Witold@XXXXXX Cc: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Transporting a bike http://www.chariot-trailer.com/biketie.htm This site is definitely trying to sell you *their* straps and stuff, but the advice and method is basically the same. Some good pointers here! RE: renting a pickup from Enterprise, etc... that's a good idea, because it is a lot less expensive than paying by the mile from U-Haul. Last time I rented a pickup truck, though, it came with a hard metal cover for the bed. The rental place did not provide keys for it and I did not think to ask for them. I didn't really need to haul anything but if I had, I would have been in major trouble! If this is the route you're gonna go, make sure you can unlock that cover! -patti From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 10:49:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77EnRZ4026931; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:49:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77EnQcu026926; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:49:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: tire plugs Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 10:59:28 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g77EnPZ4026909 pull patch/plug mushroom plug standard plug oppinions? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 10:50:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77EoOZ4026977; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:50:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77EoNe6026971; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:50:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Scott, Wellesley E." To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:46:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I rode to Philly last month and it was a perfect ride. The ride from Philly to Carlisle thereafter was boring as hell. I'd rather ride 95. -----Original Message----- From: Rich Hall [mailto:RichH@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:47 AM To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Transporting a bike Why can't the bike be ridden back??? I've ridden to Philly before, sure there's no twisties... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 10:52:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77Eq3Z4027156; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:52:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77Eq2aI027149; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:52:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:52:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Transporting a bike In-Reply-To: <007c01c23e20$a62d56e0$561452a4@D7LVNR01> Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Patti Rodgers wrote: > Last time I rented a pickup truck, though, it came with a hard metal > cover for the bed. The rental place did not provide keys for it and I > did not think to ask for them. I didn't really need to haul anything > but if I had, I would have been in major trouble! I hesitate to ask, but why would you rent a pickup if you didn't actually need to haul anything? Sheer badass value? Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 10:54:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77Es8Z4027320; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:54:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77Es8WQ027313; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:54:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: RE: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:53:56 -0400 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664DB021@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Transporting a bike Thread-Index: AcI+ITRy1aQQg7WzQiu4v2YwZEYTuQAAGOTg From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g77Es7Z4027298 >Why can't the bike be ridden back??? I've ridden to Philly before, sure >there's no twisties... Since it's my first bike and I expect to put in some major parking lot hours learning how to ride it. I thought I would skip that part, however, as I'm already set on getting this bike and I'm interested in learning how to transport it, not whether I should get it in the first place :) Witold From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 10:56:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77EukZ4027514; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:56:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77EujBn027508; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:56:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD511F214@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:57:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Being an R6 I assumed it wasn't a first bike. Rich Still '94 Seca II -----Original Message----- From: Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services [mailto:Witold@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:54 AM To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Transporting a bike >Why can't the bike be ridden back??? I've ridden to Philly before, sure >there's no twisties... Since it's my first bike and I expect to put in some major parking lot hours learning how to ride it. I thought I would skip that part, however, as I'm already set on getting this bike and I'm interested in learning how to transport it, not whether I should get it in the first place :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 10:58:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77EwKZ4027556; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:58:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77EwK2V027548; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:58:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dan Subject: Re: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:55:40 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Cc: DC-CYCLES References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02080710554011.01208@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wednesday 07 August 2002 10:32, dan wrote: > > There was a couple of more suggestions but I liked the 4x4 idea. You can > > cinch the bike down tight without blowing out the shocks. > > > > Carl > > How can you blow out the shocks when people do stoppies all day long and > somehow their shocks still work dandy? I'm thinkin shock blowouts from > tieing the bike down is an urban legend. I guess I'll stop when I get my > first blow out. Till then.... > > Dan No idea. Maybe it is an urban legend. I've never transported a bike via trailer or pickup. I have had the front fork seals bail on me way back in the '70's. I don't recall why though; probably through weather. Since it was in a magazine article instead of on usenet, I figured it was reasonably accurate. Carl -- Carl Schelin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 10:59:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77ExFZ4027722; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:59:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77ExE5Z027717; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:59:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00a101c23e22$da683db0$561452a4@D7LVNR01> Reply-To: "Patti Rodgers" From: "Patti Rodgers" To: "Fish Flowers" , "DC-Cycles" References: Subject: Re: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:58:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 >>I hesitate to ask, but why would you rent a pickup if you didn't actually >>need to haul anything? Sheer badass value It was on sale or something, cheaper than renting a car by about $10 a day. I was out of town for 10 days and needed to rent something. It worked out well, I was in Louisiana and got to go drive it around the bayous. No 4WD but had enough clearance that I could go some places a car couldn't. Alas, not like the glory days of sinking my Blazer in 4 feet of water, but fun anyway. -patti From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 10:59:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77ExlZ4027768; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:59:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77ExlbD027760; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:59:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: RE: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:59:38 -0400 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664DB022@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Transporting a bike Thread-Index: AcI+Ig32QspmP52JQeaV4+su5/guCAAAKegQ From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" To: "DC-Cycles" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g77ExkZ4027748 On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Patti Rodgers wrote: >> Last time I rented a pickup truck, though, it came with a hard metal >> cover for the bed. The rental place did not provide keys for it and I >> did not think to ask for them. I didn't really need to haul anything >> but if I had, I would have been in major trouble! >I hesitate to ask, but why would you rent a pickup if you didn't actually >need to haul anything? Sheer badass value? >Fish. I try to rent pickups whenever I can. Generally, they are cheap but much better than the little Geo Metro/Cavaliers that are in the same price range. Also, since some people actually need them to transport something, you have a better chance of being upgraded. Witold From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 11:02:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77F2tZ4028068; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:02:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77F2tHs028063; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:02:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:02:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Pickups In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664DB022@rnc1.rnchq.org> Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII While we're on the topic of pickups, I have an idle question for y'all. Does a pickup bed need to be much longer than the wheelbase to fit a bike? Now that I have a bike and a house, the next big purchase is a trailerable sailboat, but I'll need something to tow the damn thing with. May as well make certain whatever pickup I end up with can haul bikes in the back as well. Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 11:21:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77FLvZ4028258; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:21:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77FLuSr028248; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:21:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" Cc: Subject: Re: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 11:31:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664DB021@rnc1.rnchq.org> In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664DB021@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g77FLtZ4028236 I came in late on this... You're buying your first bike, and R6 from philly and going to rent a truck to bring it home.. right? I guess you don't have a lot of miles under your belt? Is the bike new or used? I guess it's cheap therefor worth the trip to philly? have you taken the Motorcycle Safety class? If you've got some miles under your belt, say 500, on another bike, I'd say you're probably capable of riding the r6 home. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 11:31:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77FVeZ4028479; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:31:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77FVeqb028475; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:31:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:31:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Err, new bike. In-Reply-To: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD511F21A@SERVER1> Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Someone emailed me privately, asking what bike I'd gotten, but I deleted the email by mistake, then forgot who it was. Oops. Anyway, for whoever you were (and anyone else who's curious), I bought a GS500 from Matt Patton, who is an extremely nice and helpful fellow, no matter how much he proselytizes small-cc bikes. :) Fish. http://home.uchicago.edu/~fish/bike/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 11:32:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77FWtZ4028523; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:32:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77FWs8T028519; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:32:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:32:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Transporting a bike In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > I guess you don't have a lot of miles under your belt? > Is the bike new or used? > I guess it's cheap therefor worth the trip to philly? > have you taken the Motorcycle Safety class? > > If you've got some miles under your belt, say 500, on another bike, > I'd say you're probably capable of riding the r6 home. Or maybe you could convince someone you know (or another list member) to drive up with you and they could ride the motorcycle back to the DC area? The weather is nice this week/weekend, it might be a good excuse for one of our unemployed listers to get out of the house ;-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 11:33:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77FXjZ4028569; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:33:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77FXjA1028562; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:33:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: RE: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:33:36 -0400 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A6664DB025@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Transporting a bike Thread-Index: AcI+JiosHnv2Akx/SiKZBS4rTwAiFgAAHlkg From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g77FXhZ4028545 >You're buying your first bike, and R6 from philly and going to rent a truck to bring it home.. >right? That's correct. Is the bike new or used? >The bike is a 2002, but it has 2000 miles on it and some scratches from a tip over on back part of the bike. I guess it's cheap therefor worth the trip to philly? >Bingo! Plus, my sister lives in Cherry Hill (right outside Philly) so I can work in a visit as >well. >have you taken the Motorcycle Safety class? I actually ended up taking the MSF class twice -- and passed with no problems both times. I also took some private instruction from Larry Grodsky, (stayinsafe.com) but as I said above, I don't have 500 miles under my belt. I wouldn't feel comfortable riding any bike, let alone a R6, without frame sliders and before at least running through some basic MSF drills. That's why I don't want to ride it home :) Witold From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 11:34:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77FY1Z4028604; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:34:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77FY02o028600; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:34:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Sandler, Mike" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: tire plugs Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:21:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sport riding - replace tire Cruising / touring - repair ...imo -----Original Message----- From: Motor PsychoL Danny [mailto:motorcycle@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:59 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: tire plugs pull patch/plug mushroom plug standard plug oppinions? *********************************************** Confidentiality Note: This E-mail is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. 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From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 11:34:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77FYEZ4028644; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:34:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77FYDNl028638; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:34:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020807153400.30831.qmail@web14004.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:34:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Pickups To: Fish Flowers , DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Fish Flowers wrote: > Does a pickup bed need to be much longer than the > wheelbase to fit a bike? Initially my answer was going to be "Yes, it does need to be much longer than the wheelbase since the wheelbase is the distance between the axles of the bike." But, the bike doesn't have to be straight in the bed, it can sit diagonally. A 6' bed that's 4 and a half feet wide has a diagonal length of 7 and 1/2 ft. An 8ft bed that's 4 and a half feet wide would have a diagonal length of 9'2" Assuming bike wheels are about 2ft tall, you'd need another 2ft of bed to fit the bike into it (the front half of the front wheel + the back half of the back wheel.) So a quick rule of thumb would be bed length should be a foot longer than the wheelbase of the bike. Leon. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 11:38:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77Fc9Z4028707; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:38:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77Fc9ak028703; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:38:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:38:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Pickups In-Reply-To: <20020807153400.30831.qmail@web14004.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Leon Begeman wrote: > --- Fish Flowers wrote: > > Does a pickup bed need to be much longer than the > > wheelbase to fit a bike? > > Assuming bike wheels are about 2ft tall, you'd need > another 2ft of bed to fit the bike into it (the front > half of the front wheel + the back half of the back > wheel.) So a quick rule of thumb would be bed length > should be a foot longer than the wheelbase of the > bike. > > Leon. Couldn't you also transport it with the tailgate down? -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 11:38:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77FceZ4028751; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:38:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77FceN8028744; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:38:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Sent: 7 Aug 2002 15:38:31 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wilsonl@XXXXXX Cc: ljtanner@XXXXXX, DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX From: "LAURA GRANATO" Subject: VIR AMA this weekend X-Sent-From: lgranato@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 08:38:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: Web Mail 5.0.11-9 Message-Id: <20020807083831.24143.h011.c002.wm@mail.peoplepc.com.criticalpath.net> Roach, Sean Jordan, and I will be there this weekend. We'll be stationed in the roller coaster the whole weekend, so look for us there! Laura ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 11:40:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77Fe6Z4028927; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:40:06 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77Fe6lH028922; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:40:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 11:39:55 -0400 From: STmaven@XXXXXX To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Transporting a bike Message-ID: <54AA5BE5.4572BBA2.001912B6@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit rent a pick-up truck, buy some tie-downs, and buy cannon-dancers for the handle bars. here is ths link: http://www.canyondancer.com/ i throw my bike in the back of pick-up trucks all the time with no problems to my bike. btw i have an R6. so there is nothing to worry about... -Mark From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 11:47:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77FlAZ4029007; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:47:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77FlAih029002; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:47:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020807154707.58531.qmail@web14007.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 08:47:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Transporting a bike To: Motor PsychoL Danny , Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services Cc: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > If you've got some miles under your belt, say 500, > on another bike, > I'd say you're probably capable of riding the r6 > home. I NEVER ride a new bike home. I don't trust it yet. I've done that twice in the last 20 years. The first bike had water in the fuel and it took 20 minutes on the side of the road to get the damned thing running again. The second one had a nail in the tire and the tire went flat on the way home - the last couple of miles weren't much fun. Of course, in my case that's usually a pretty easy rule to keep since I seldom buy a bike that would run anyway. Leon. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 11:49:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77FnjZ4029172; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:49:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77Fniu8029163; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:49:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 11:49:32 -0400 From: STmaven@XXXXXX To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Transporting a bike Message-ID: <0EA409BC.0BAE76F6.001912B6@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit yeah, the r6 makes a bad first bike. give it to me and i'll loan you my huffy until you feel comfy on the huffy. :P j/k... remember to take it easy and have fun. the bike is a joy to ride. let me know when you get the bike, we could do a small group ride w/ other R6ers and/or other non-R6 riders. -mark In a message dated Wed, 7 Aug 2002 9:57:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, RichH@XXXXXX writes: > > > Being an R6 I assumed it wasn't a first bike. > Rich > Still '94 Seca II > > -----Original Message----- > From: Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services > [mailto:Witold@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:54 AM > To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Transporting a bike > > > >Why can't the bike be ridden back??? I've ridden to Philly before, sure > >there's no twisties... > > Since it's my first bike and I expect to put in some major parking lot hours > learning how to ride it. I thought I would skip that part, however, as I'm > already set on getting this bike and I'm interested in learning how to > transport it, not whether I should get it in the first > place :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 11:55:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77Ft8Z4029354; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:55:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77Ft88l029350; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:55:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 11:54:54 -0400 From: STmaven@XXXXXX To: wayne@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Pickups Message-ID: <41A0F449.7C1502FF.001912B6@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I do it all the time... -Mark In a message dated Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:38:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, wayne@XXXXXX writes: > > Couldn't you also transport it with the tailgate down? > > -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 11:59:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77FxvZ4029533; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:59:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77Fxu9u029527; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:59:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD511F232@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:00:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We all know the R6 rides involve lots of crashes, don't take him on one of them! Keep your Huffy, I already offered to trade him the Seca II. -----Original Message----- From: STmaven@XXXXXX [mailto:STmaven@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:50 AM To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Transporting a bike yeah, the r6 makes a bad first bike. give it to me and i'll loan you my huffy until you feel comfy on the huffy. :P j/k... remember to take it easy and have fun. the bike is a joy to ride. let me know when you get the bike, we could do a small group ride w/ other R6ers and/or other non-R6 riders. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 12:06:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77G6CZ4029842; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:06:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77G6C9h029837; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:06:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:08:49 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Fish Flowers cc: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Pickups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Fish Flowers wrote: > While we're on the topic of pickups, I have an idle question for y'all. > Does a pickup bed need to be much longer than the wheelbase to fit a bike? As long as its not one of the new crew cabs with the short bed (<6ft), you should be ok. I've got a Tundra and have put a Harley Road King, a V-star 1100, YZF-600R, and VFR in it without any problems. I do leave the tailgate down for all of them. One thing to keep in mind though bed heigth, mine is 36", I need ramps with a bit of curve to them. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 12:19:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77GJ4Z4030183; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:19:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77GJ4AO030179; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:19:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYLDmogVaqNmku1pvtXaQzpqpeaFsmMxlOzOOjBcqEXLPpy0sY5pHuF0WxfieGCkwc= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: why do the 4x4 when bike hauling Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:19:48 -0400 Message-ID: <007901c23e2e$40b533b0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 In-Reply-To: <02080710554011.01208@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Importance: Normal If you don't use the 4x4, a good pothole will cause the bike to compress the suspension even more than you did with the tie downs, and voila, instant sparks from the bike (after it falls off of the trailer at 45 mph). Anyway, that's why I did it when hauling dirt bikes back in the bumpy tire daze. --jon -----Original Message----- (various thoughts re: 4x4 under suspension) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 12:20:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77GKhZ4030370; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:20:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77GKh7C030361; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:20:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:20:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Pickups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, dan wrote: > I've got a Tundra and have put a Harley Road King, a V-star 1100, > YZF-600R, and VFR in it without any problems. All at once? Wow! Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 12:30:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77GUeZ4030471; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:30:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77GUeYC030463; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:30:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.48.118.251] From: "Rob Keiser" To: Witold@XXXXXX Cc: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 12:30:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2002 16:30:32.0909 (UTC) FILETIME=[C03837D0:01C23E2F] A smart way to think about it, I'd say. Are you in the DC area now? If so, drive me up and I'll ride it home for you. Being unemployed allows a pretty flexible schedule! :) Rob '98 VFR800 From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" CC: Subject: RE: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:33:36 -0400 >You're buying your first bike, and R6 from philly and going to rent a truck to bring it home.. >right? That's correct. Is the bike new or used? >The bike is a 2002, but it has 2000 miles on it and some scratches from a tip over on back part of the bike. I guess it's cheap therefor worth the trip to philly? >Bingo! Plus, my sister lives in Cherry Hill (right outside Philly) so I can work in a visit as >well. >have you taken the Motorcycle Safety class? I actually ended up taking the MSF class twice -- and passed with no problems both times. I also took some private instruction from Larry Grodsky, (stayinsafe.com) but as I said above, I don't have 500 miles under my belt. I wouldn't feel comfortable riding any bike, let alone a R6, without frame sliders and before at least running through some basic MSF drills. That's why I don't want to ride it home :) Witold _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 12:48:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77GmxZ4030715; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:48:59 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77Gmwum030710; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:48:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [67.97.0.82] From: "Tim Spong" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: A ton of bikes in Ashburn VA yesterday? Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 16:47:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2002 16:47:52.0355 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BC71730:01C23E32] I drove past the Ashburn Pub last night and there were a ton of bikes outside - mainly Harleys I think? anyone know what event this was and how to get involved? _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 12:50:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77GoVZ4030764; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:50:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77GoUs5030757; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:50:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: nawt.office.aol.com: cerberus owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:50:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Paper X-X-Sender: cerberus@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: A ton of bikes in Ashburn VA yesterday? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Tim Spong wrote: > I drove past the Ashburn Pub last night and there were a ton of bikes > outside - mainly Harleys I think? anyone know what event this was and how > to get involved? Park, walk in. Say hi. -dave -- Dave Paper AOL Network Operations/DNS Engineering cerberus@XXXXXX "Karate Bagels presents: Easter colored bagels" Irony. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 13:05:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77H5eZ4030896; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:05:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77H5eGa030891; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:05:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <008301c23e34$4bfeb380$175df7a5@ELNcplvfr> From: "Travis" To: References: Subject: Re: A ton of bikes in Ashburn VA yesterday? Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:03:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I saw a sign for that at Loudoun Motorsports. Every Tuesday night from 7-9pm. The sign also mentioned something about free food and door prizes. I would've gone except my VFR threw the chain which destroyed the countershaft cover as well everything else in that area. My other bikes are being shipped from Hawaii. I'm going to check out once my VFR is fixed or I get my other bikes. Travis '01 SV650S '95 RC36 '91 GS500E '85 VF500F http://www.angelfire.com/extreme3/svbadguy ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Spong To: Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: A ton of bikes in Ashburn VA yesterday? > > > I drove past the Ashburn Pub last night and there were a ton of bikes > outside - mainly Harleys I think? anyone know what event this was and how > to get involved? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 13:26:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77HQ5Z4031183; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:26:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77HQ4jZ031175; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:26:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020807172601.3322.qmail@web21411.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:26:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Larson Subject: RE: tire plugs To: "Sandler, Mike" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "Sandler, Mike" wrote: > Sport riding - replace tire > Cruising / touring - repair > ...imo Conservative "old fart who's already hit the deck at speed once from a tire/wheel problem" approach: Sport riding -- replace tire Cruising/touring -- replace tire Bicycle -- replace tire Cage -- plug and rotate to rear, or replace tire Riding lawn mower -- plug If it's only got two wheels, I want two perfect tires on it. -- Larry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 13:29:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77HTZZ4031231; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:29:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77HTY7M031227; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:29:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020807172931.70476.qmail@web14002.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:29:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Pickups To: Wayne Edelen , DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Wayne Edelen wrote: > Couldn't you also transport it with the tailgate > down? Well, I suppose you could, but I figured that he already had a bike (and thus the wheelbase value) and was looking for a pickup. If you're still shopping, then it makes sense to know what size bed you're looking for. Isn't driving a truck with the tailgate down almost as ugly as a man wearing short pants? It may not be illegal, but if I weren't a libertarian, I'd think it should be. Leon. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 14:25:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g77IPXZ4032163; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:25:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g77IPWZc032155; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:25:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-id: Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:14:13 -0400 Subject: Re: RE: tire plugs To: entrpoop@XXXXXX Cc: msandler@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" References: <20020807172601.3322.qmail@web21411.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20020807172601.3322.qmail@web21411.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fwiw, I will patch/plug my rear tire, but not a front: Have never lost a plug and I can ride out a rear-tire air loss, doubtful about front. It's a pita, but I recommend taking the tire off to plug it---I've seen mushroom plug heads tear off while being pushed through the tire, and you can't tell from the outside. ---garcia From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 21:08:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7818sZ4003994; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 21:08:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7818pp7003975; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 21:08:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.0.1.4.2.20020807210344.00a66fc0@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> X-Sender: brown@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.1 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 21:09:16 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Dan Brown Subject: thanks. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I'd just like to say a public thanks to Mr. William J. Huson and his comrades at the MSF -- they do a great job of teaching the fundamentals. The BRC is, in my opinion, a must for any rider, no matter what skill, experience or license level you currently hold. The class was well worth the time it took to be able to find an open slot, and the, in all told, very minimal fee. So... Bill, THANKS!!! Dan. -- Resist or Serve From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 21:15:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g781FiZ4004190; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 21:15:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g781FiL8004184; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 21:15:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Scott R. Russell" To: , Subject: RE: Transporting a bike Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 21:15:38 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <0EA409BC.0BAE76F6.001912B6@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal I am a non R6'er but would love to try one. I want to know the different feeling from a sit up bike to a crotch rocket. But for now I will stick to my training wheels, my Nighthawk S. Scott -----Original Message----- From: STmaven@XXXXXX [mailto:STmaven@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:50 AM To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Transporting a bike yeah, the r6 makes a bad first bike. give it to me and i'll loan you my huffy until you feel comfy on the huffy. :P j/k... remember to take it easy and have fun. the bike is a joy to ride. let me know when you get the bike, we could do a small group ride w/ other R6ers and/or other non-R6 riders. -mark In a message dated Wed, 7 Aug 2002 9:57:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, RichH@XXXXXX writes: > > > Being an R6 I assumed it wasn't a first bike. > Rich > Still '94 Seca II From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 22:12:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g782CTZ4004826; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:12:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g782CRAE004818; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:12:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020807205757.030d46b0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rmeyer9@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 20:58:57 -0400 To: From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Motorcyclist dies on `Dragon' In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020806235400.0311e8b0@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:28 AM 8/7/02 -0400, dan wrote: > >The real > > lesson ought to be not to ride over your head. > > > > Bob > > > >If we are going to get into "lessons", one I don't see metioned often >enough is to leave a margin for error. A lot of the recent serious wrecks >in the twisties I've read about have been experienced riders, who I'm sure >felt confident about the turn they were in, but they misjudged. >Dan Good point. My only road accident in the last 10 or 12 years I attribute to being not very familiar with the bike, and not leaving a margin for error. Bob From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 22:14:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g782EVZ4004994; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:14:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g782EUwY004988; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:14:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:17:26 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tire mounting around Reston? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks to all that responded. Found a fellow lister near by that has quite a shop. Got the new 207 mounted and balanced, all for the measly price of a 12 pack, ready for this weekend in the NC mountains. Hope to hit the Dragon once the tire is nice and broke in. Dan On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, dan wrote: > Mother F$#()*#! crap... I got another flat, second this year. This time > its a small nail. I discoverd it while washing the bike after a nice long > ride, made some really nice bubbles. Already have the tire on the way, > just need someone to mount and balance it. I think the VFR wheel is a > little different in that it requires some special adapter for balancing? > Anyone know where to get this done for a reasonable charge around Reston? > > Thanks, > > Dan > > -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Aug 7 23:31:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g783VLZ4005584; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 23:31:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g783V9Dl005565; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 23:31:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020807233100.030d93a0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rmeyer9@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 23:31:17 -0400 To: dan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: tire mounting around Reston? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:17 PM 8/7/02 -0400, dan wrote: >Thanks to all that responded. Found a fellow lister near by that has >quite a shop. So who's the lister, and where's the shop? Bob From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 02:12:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g786CRZ4006509; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 02:12:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g786CQJO006501; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 02:12:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Rob Curtis" To: "'Fish Flowers'" , "'DC-Cycles'" Subject: RE: Pickups Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 02:12:21 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c23ea2$8f0f3dc0$6401a8c0@cypher> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal My SV650S fit in my 01 Tacoma 4x4(Xtra Cab!)with the tailgate down. Steve and I used a 2x6 with a metal "lip" I bought for $4 at Home Depot's clearance rack ("ramp-endz", maybe). Used 1 ratcheting tie down threaded through the triple tree and over the bars in front, one through the grab bars in back. We hooked the strap ends to the stock pick-up bed tie down points in the corners. It would have been easier with a solid wheel chock in the bed, but for $20 with of HD crap, it works fine. Just make sure you have two, if not three friends to help get your bike up the ramp safely. Robby C. -----Original Message----- From: Fish Flowers [mailto:fish@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:03 To: DC-Cycles Subject: Pickups While we're on the topic of pickups, I have an idle question for y'all. Does a pickup bed need to be much longer than the wheelbase to fit a bike? Now that I have a bike and a house, the next big purchase is a trailerable sailboat, but I'll need something to tow the damn thing with. May as well make certain whatever pickup I end up with can haul bikes in the back as well. Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 02:36:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g786anZ4006901; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 02:36:49 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g786amPS006897; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 02:36:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020807182019.31649.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:20:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: Pickups To: Leon Begeman , Wayne Edelen , DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: <20020807172931.70476.qmail@web14002.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Leon Begeman wrote: > --- Wayne Edelen wrote: > > Couldn't you also transport it with the tailgate > > down? > > Well, I suppose you could, but I figured that he > already had a bike (and thus the wheelbase value) > and > was looking for a pickup. If you're still shopping, > then it makes sense to know what size bed you're > looking for. > And now some manufacturers are making 6.5' beds. A nice option if you don't want that beast of an 8' bed. > Isn't driving a truck with the tailgate down almost > as > ugly as a man wearing short pants? It may not be > illegal, but if I weren't a libertarian, I'd think > it > should be. > Looks better then hauling it sideways IMO. Glenn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 06:40:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78AemZ4008740; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 06:40:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78Aehbb008721; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 06:40:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Bob Meyer , Subject: Re: Motorcyclist dies on `Dragon' Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 06:38:29 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020806235400.0311e8b0@pop.east.cox.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020807205757.030d46b0@pop.east.cox.net> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020807205757.030d46b0@pop.east.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0208080638291A.01208@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wednesday 07 August 2002 20:58, Bob Meyer wrote: > At 12:28 AM 8/7/02 -0400, dan wrote: > > >The real > > > lesson ought to be not to ride over your head. > > > > > > Bob > > > >If we are going to get into "lessons", one I don't see metioned often > >enough is to leave a margin for error. A lot of the recent serious wrecks > >in the twisties I've read about have been experienced riders, who I'm sure > >felt confident about the turn they were in, but they misjudged. > >Dan > > Good point. My only road accident in the last 10 or 12 years I attribute > to being not very familiar with the bike, and not leaving a margin for > error. > Not a twisties accident but my only road accident in the last 10 or 12 years I attribute to t-boning a S-10 sized pickup that pulled out from the DOT site on the right and stopped sideways in the left lane (he was making a left). Rt 1 just a hair south of the M&M auto recycler, northbound, 1:30pm Valentine's Day. 55 to 0 in ~20 feet :-( Lovely scars though. :-/ "Honey, I have good news and bad news. I won't be riding the bike anymore. I'm in the hospital." Boy, she wasn't happy. > Bob Carl -- Carl Schelin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 07:14:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78BE3Z4009027; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:14:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78BE26f009022; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:14:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D5253C2.65CB551E@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 07:19:30 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rmcurtis@XXXXXX CC: "'Fish Flowers'" , "'DC-Cycles'" Subject: Re: Pickups References: <000201c23ea2$8f0f3dc0$6401a8c0@cypher> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob Curtis wrote: > My SV650S fit in my 01 Tacoma 4x4(Xtra Cab!)with the tailgate down. > Steve and I used a 2x6 with a metal "lip" I bought for $4 at Home > Depot's clearance rack ("ramp-endz", maybe). Used 1 ratcheting tie down > threaded through the triple tree and over the bars in front, one through > the grab bars in back. We hooked the strap ends to the stock pick-up bed > tie down points in the corners. > It would have been easier with a solid wheel chock in the bed, but for > $20 with of HD crap, it works fine. Just make sure you have two, if not > three friends to help get your bike up the ramp safely. > > Robby C. Yes, BIG friends. Two old farts shoving a Harley bagger into a pickup bed just doesn't cut it. It was a rude awakening AKA reality check - jeez, man, we're like totally outta shape! Trailer is the way to go. U-Haul has a nifty one with a built in front wheel chock and tie down rings. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 07:16:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78BGHZ4009198; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:16:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78BGHoc009191; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:16:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00d401c23ecc$9b75e300$a500a8c0@C4ZJ911> From: "Gary Foreman" To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020806235400.0311e8b0@pop.east.cox.net> <5.1.0.14.0.20020807205757.030d46b0@pop.east.cox.net> <0208080638291A.01208@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Subject: Rt. 211 on a Wed Evening? Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:12:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 I've always done 211 on the weekend, but we had a guy who had never been there that we decided to take last night. All I can say is if you can get there one weekday evening, do it. Traffic was nonexistent. Even on the downside. We made two runs across and then over 211 to New Market. We did have a little problem. The guy we took is one who hates criticism, even constructive criticism. We tried to help him as he has what I think is target fixation. He's not looking ahead in the turns and in the past two weeks he has busted a few turns and even taken a few trips through some yards. He always manages to come out without dropping it, but when you try to help him, he gets very defensive and makes excuses for every bad move he makes. I keep telling him we are trying to help him, but it doesn't matter. I think he needs a track day, but then I think he would think it's a race. I think it will eventually catch up with him. Anyway, last night was a blast. Pretty damn cold on the ride back though :-) Gary From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 07:28:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78BShZ4009397; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:28:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78BShD2009391; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:28:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020808112841.30694.qmail@web9701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 04:28:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: RE: Rt. 211 on a Wed Evening? To: DCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gary wrote... > he has what I think is target fixation. He's not > looking ahead in the turns and in the past two > weeks he has busted a few turns and even taken a few > trips through some yards. ... > I think he needs a track day... Or maybe an Experienced Rider Course? There's a lot of talk about Looking Through the Turn there. Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 07:49:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78BntZ4009645; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:49:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78BnsDR009635; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:49:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D525C30.1D9D353@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 07:55:28 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Brown CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: thanks. References: <5.0.1.4.2.20020807210344.00a66fc0@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dan Brown wrote: > I'd just like to say a public thanks to Mr. William J. Huson and his > comrades at the MSF -- they do a great job of teaching the fundamentals. > The BRC is, in my opinion, a must for any rider, no matter what skill, > experience or license level you currently hold. The class was well worth > the time it took to be able to find an open slot, and the, in all told, > very minimal fee. > > So... Bill, THANKS!!! > Thank you, Dan, it was a fun class. Now the real fun begins for y`all -- riding on the *real* street AKA *mean streets*. Stay safe... Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 07:52:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78BqZZ4009815; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:52:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78BqY3J009806; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:52:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D525CD1.553B169A@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 07:58:09 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Larry Larson CC: "Sandler, Mike" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tire plugs References: <20020807172601.3322.qmail@web21411.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Larry Larson wrote: > --- "Sandler, Mike" > wrote: > > Sport riding - replace tire > > Cruising / touring - repair > > ...imo > > Conservative "old fart who's already hit the deck at > speed once from a tire/wheel problem" approach: > > Sport riding -- replace tire > Cruising/touring -- replace tire > Bicycle -- replace tire > Cage -- plug and rotate to rear, or replace tire > Riding lawn mower -- plug > > If it's only got two wheels, I want two perfect tires > on it. > > -- Larry Damn skippy - no plugs in my scoot shoes. Save for an emergency fix to get me to the shoeshop for new rubber. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 07:56:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78Bu4Z4009983; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:56:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78Bu37C009978; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:56:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D525DA3.FE722C82@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:01:39 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: nags head References: <48.f78b475.2a801aa4@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > hi everyone :) > > im riding to nags head this weekend --- leaving the baltimore area around 4am > on saturday --- leaving to return home about 4am on monday morning. (i have > to be at work by 12:30pm on monday). im meeting up with my biker parents > there. > > let me know if anyone is headed that way saturday or returning on monday! Have fun! I love that area of NC, go there often, but alas -- not this weekend. Going to Washington NC next weekend, leaving Thurs, back on Mon, camping at Whichards Beach. Tis a party disguised as a boat race. You're welcome, of course. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 08:02:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78C29Z4010182; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:02:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78C29SJ010178; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:02:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.20020808080307.0153ae50@noid.org> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:03:39 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: tire plugs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:58 AM 8/8/02 -0400, you wrote: >> Conservative "old fart who's already hit the deck at >> speed once from a tire/wheel problem" approach: >> >> Sport riding -- replace tire >> Cruising/touring -- replace tire >> Bicycle -- replace tire >> Cage -- plug and rotate to rear, or replace tire >> Riding lawn mower -- plug >> >> If it's only got two wheels, I want two perfect tires >> on it. >> >> -- Larry > >Damn skippy - no plugs in my scoot shoes. Save for an emergency fix to >get me to the shoeshop for new rubber. > >Bill I picked up a nail in the rear tire of my Busa and replaced the tire. I'm with Larry and Bill, I feel much safer with 2 good baloney skins on the bike :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 08:14:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78CEgZ4010411; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:14:42 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78CEfBF010406; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:14:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.20020808081542.01537e14@noid.org> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:16:14 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Riding Gear Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Be sure to wear your riding gear... http://www.stickdeath.com/shorts12.html :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 08:19:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78CJjZ4010584; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:19:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78CJi8A010578; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:19:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D52632E.9B2DEE4B@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:25:18 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: SEE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See - Search, Evaluate, Execute - the new acronym to replace SIPDE. I like it, SEE relates to look, and SEE fits with the philosphy of KISS - Keep It Simple, Stupid. On my way to and from my recent MSF class SEE kept me entertained and out of trouble many times. Drivers were batshit crazy this week. NUTS! But using SEE and being a conservative old guy who knows full well that my reaction time is no longer measured in milliseconds, I avoided *almost* every incident. Going home. I've turned onto the left turn lane from 236 to Braddock. A red sport tourer (K Beemer?) appears outta nowhere, zipping down the left lane. Then a kid in his chip-tuned japmobile starts moving right lane to left lane in front of the ST. YIPES! Peepy horn bleat from ST, binders on. I drift faaaaarrr right to make escape space for the ST, but the ST drags it down and BDC continues to take the left lane. At one point in the action the ST was betwixt me'n the BDC. An ST sandwich. SEE what can happen out there? And it's nowhere close to a full moon! Keep those eyeballs open, keep them moving - tis a jungle out there. Someone left the door to the nuthouse open! Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 08:38:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78CcHZ4010810; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:38:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78CcGgl010805; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:38:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:41:04 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Bob Meyer cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tire mounting around Reston? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020807233100.030d93a0@pop.east.cox.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I know nothing. Nothing at all. On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Bob Meyer wrote: > At 10:17 PM 8/7/02 -0400, dan wrote: > >Thanks to all that responded. Found a fellow lister near by that has > >quite a shop. > > > So who's the lister, and where's the shop? > > Bob > > -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 08:43:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78ChVZ4011007; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:43:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78ChU0t011003; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:43:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D5268C2.B560A166@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:49:06 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wayne Edelen CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tire plugs References: <3.0.32.20020808080307.0153ae50@noid.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wayne Edelen wrote: > I picked up a nail in the rear tire of my Busa and replaced the tire. I'm > with Larry and Bill, I feel much safer with 2 good baloney skins on the > bike :-) Yep, with a caveat. If I had a in townie commuter bike that never saw more'n 45 MPH, I'd patch tubes or plug tires to keep it going, but on a heavy used for those master blaster trips down the super slab, no way - new skins fer me. I'm kinda picky about trailer tires too. If your drag is well under 2K pounds, and your tow vehicle over two tons, plugging is fine. But if your trailer wieght is more than half your tow vehicle wieght and said trailer is single axle, plug to get it home and replace the tire. A heavy trailer that loses a tire at highway speed can be dangerous to your health record. This is from several anal puckering experiances over the years. Oh, yeah, and check the lug nuts too. I lost an entire wheel on I-95 once. The ratio of tow v trailer wieght - brutish Ramcharger v way less than 2k trailer - saved that one, but I had to use the tire iron to pry my shrieking wife's fingernails outta the dashboard. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 08:59:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78CxIZ4011232; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:59:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78CxIQe011224; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:59:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <40.21f31df8.2a83c51b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:59:07 EDT Subject: Some days suck. Some days... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Language: en X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g78CxGZ4011212 Went for a ride at about 4:30am. yesterday, rode about 70mi. up to Baltimore MD. (That is about 1/2 of the motorcycle content, if you want the rest goto the last lines.) Why? To "attend" a "Players party" A hundred or so attractive young women dressed to the nines as hookers, with a few of us males. It was awful #:-} > Downside? I had to dress to the nines as a Pimp. More to the point the "Gateway Computer Pimp" Black pants with silver stripes, black furry shirt, a coat that was white with black spots just like a Gateway box (or a cow.) The rest of the story. Got a call from a casting company Tuesday wanting me to come in to be an extra.... Oops, sorry Background _Actor_ must be politically correct here. For a "Players party." What is a Players Party I ask. Hookers and their pimps. WELL, being the quiet shy retiring and utterly un-pimp like fellow I am I took an immeasurably short time to say "Why not." So at 4:30 in the morning I head up to Baltimore. Our call is actually at 7:00am. but I want to avoid the rush hour and 7:00 would put me square into it, so I leave early. When I get there a bus already at the parking area (We had to park "off site" no parking anywhere near the set) Clearly the womens call is 6:00am. as there are only 1 or 2 of us testosterone enhanced folk in an entire tour bus, not a city bus, a _tour_ bus _full_ of young women, not just young women but young women who have been told to dress as hookers. OH THE PAIN! Oh the humanity! Oh my age... We ride into downtown Baltimore to an old bank building that has been converted into a dance club and get off the bus to wait on the sidewalk for someone to open the door. Imagine if you will, a tour bus full of "hookers and pimps" unloads onto a city sidewalk during the start of rush hour. I would have killed for a camera to photograph the reaction of drivers and pedestrians. After a short wait we go inside where we are "pimped up an ho)B’ed out" The only thing I wound up wearing of my own was my shoes, and that only because they were out of size 13 pimp shoes. For all intent a purpose and despite our best efforts at dressing ourselves we all wound up being re-costumed, the guys were outrageous, the women more so. Then hair and makeup, guys got off easy, I just had hair spray/glue. The women... I never thought a blue wig could work... Then it was time for _breakfast!_ Up the stairs, down the hall, and to the right... Out onto the SIDEWALK! If you think we got a reaction when we first got off the bus, you can imagine the reaction now! Out of a couple of hundred men and women (there was a second busload) only one young women has the sense to bring a robe, soooo. Now I want a _video_ camera to record the traffic going by :-0 :-/ :-( :-} etc. Back downstairs to begin the real life of an extra (Oops sorry background actor.) Long periods of boredom punctuated by periods of _intense_ boredom. But the scenery is nice, in the end it kind of winds up like the Blue Ridge Parkway on a bike. _Gorgeous, but your senses dull to it, after interminable hours these women and men start to look normal, In fact when we head home I find myself wondering why everyone outside is so overdressed and dull, and the women so short, (no 4" spikes.) We do go upstairs a few times to film. Even that is not as exiting as one might assume, doing the same thing over and over, and the heat, oh lordy the heat! The "hookers" are roasting, and they are dressed as _hookers!_ I am in a long sleeve hairy shirt (hot,) a fir cow coat (damn hot) and someone looked and thought "that guy does not cooked yet", So they give me a fir hat (This is your brain, this is your brain at 400deg.) Please do not make me cross (walk) Please do not make me cross, if I move much I will pass out. "OK! YOU ARE AT A PARTY, YOU ARE HAVING _FUN_ DANCE, TALK, ENERGY, ENERGY!! Rolling! Sound! (snap, just like you have seen it in the movies) _Background action! Having fun, dance, talk, energy (oh lord I know I have some somewhere.) Have fun! OK good.... Do it again......... It _was_ fun. Everyone should do it at least once. Twice? Depends on how crazy you are. For those wondering it is a Chris Rock film, he stars and directs as a guy thrust into a run for the presidency. The film is called (at least for now) "Head Of State" and I have no idea when (or if) it will come out. The scene is an "annual party" for pimps and their girls to get together and the Rock character is here to try to get their votes. That is what I know. I do know that when it comes out I will let you know if you can see me and where (look for that little black and white dot in the upper left corner... I am behind it.) There is a possibility, too horrible to think about, that I will be in the foreground for a moment... Me 40ft. high... Dressed as the Gateway Computer Pimp. THE HORROR! Rode about 60mi. back home at about 6:30pm, even the beltway was moving quickly especially for rush hour. (That is it for Motorcycle content.) Why only 60 to go home? Well I failed to miss my exit like I did on the way up. The ride home I was dreading was actually a nice ride, traffic hauled along at a very nice clip even when there was a cop in the group. Altogether a very nice day. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 09:11:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78DB5Z4011458; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:11:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78DB5aQ011450; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:11:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020808131102.9627.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 06:11:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Isaac Blanck Subject: Re: Rt. 211 on a Wed Evening? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <00d401c23ecc$9b75e300$a500a8c0@C4ZJ911> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii what part(s) of 211 are worth doing? what would be the best way to get there, coming from DC (either 395 or 66); i think i will take your advice and get out there one of these weekend evevings .... thx jib --- Gary Foreman wrote: > I've always done 211 on the weekend, but we had a > guy who had never been > there that we decided to take last night. All I can > say is if you can get > there one weekday evening, do it. Traffic was > nonexistent. Even on the > downside. We made two runs across and then over 211 > to New Market. > > > We did have a little problem. The guy we took is > one who hates criticism, > even constructive criticism. We tried to help him > as he has what I think is > target fixation. He's not looking ahead in the > turns and in the past two > weeks he has busted a few turns and even taken a few > trips through some > yards. He always manages to come out without > dropping it, but when you try > to help him, he gets very defensive and makes > excuses for every bad move he > makes. I keep telling him we are trying to help > him, but it doesn't matter. > I think he needs a track day, but then I think he > would think it's a race. > I think it will eventually catch up with him. > > Anyway, last night was a blast. Pretty damn cold on > the ride back though > :-) > > Gary > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 09:26:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78DQ8Z4011716; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:26:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78DQ8qH011711; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:26:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <1b9.47b4511.2a83cb66@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:25:58 EDT Subject: Re: tire mounting around Reston? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/7/2002 9:49:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, motorcycle@XXXXXX writes: > So we should install little rubber flaps on our belly pans then? If you do not mind riding a bike with a flap on its belly it would prolly work. I for one would rather carry a plug kit. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 09:34:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78DYiZ4011923; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:34:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78DYhLE011918; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:34:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Lisa Goddard" To: Subject: Transporting a bike Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:33:59 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 From: Wayne Edelen To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Transporting a bike > If you've got some miles under your belt, say 500, on another bike, > I'd say you're probably capable of riding the r6 home. Or maybe you could convince someone you know (or another list member) to drive up with you and they could ride the motorcycle back to the DC area? The weather is nice this week/weekend, it might be a good excuse for one of our unemployed listers to get out of the house ;-) Hey, I resemble that remark! Both Jay and I are unemployed right now. We get out of the house quite often! In fact, we are both headed to VIR this weekend for some track time. I am out on the south course friday with their Aprilia's. Jay will be out on Saturday on his RC. Lisa '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 09:36:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78DaQZ4012089; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:36:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78DaQNd012084; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:36:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Wayne Edelen Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tire plugs Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:46:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3.0.32.20020808080307.0153ae50@noid.org> In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20020808080307.0153ae50@noid.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g78DaPZ4012072 Any listers on crotch rockets throwing out their new tires cuz of a puncture, let me know, i'll meet you at the bike shop and take it off your hands for you.... plug tires work pretty well for me. On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:03:39 -0400, you wrote: >At 07:58 AM 8/8/02 -0400, you wrote: >>> Conservative "old fart who's already hit the deck at >>> speed once from a tire/wheel problem" approach: >>> >>> Sport riding -- replace tire >>> Cruising/touring -- replace tire >>> Bicycle -- replace tire >>> Cage -- plug and rotate to rear, or replace tire >>> Riding lawn mower -- plug >>> >>> If it's only got two wheels, I want two perfect tires >>> on it. >>> >>> -- Larry >> >>Damn skippy - no plugs in my scoot shoes. Save for an emergency fix to >>get me to the shoeshop for new rubber. >> >>Bill > >I picked up a nail in the rear tire of my Busa and replaced the tire. I'm >with Larry and Bill, I feel much safer with 2 good baloney skins on the >bike :-) > >-- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 09:37:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78Db9Z4012255; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:37:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78Db82s012249; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:37:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <66.25300195.2a83cdfc@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:37:00 EDT Subject: Re: Rt. 211 on a Wed Evening? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/8/2002 7:28:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, iefbr142000@XXXXXX writes: > Or maybe an Experienced Rider Course? There's a lot > of talk about Looking Through the Turn there. > Or a Beginnig Rider Course? Not meant to be insulting, but looking where you want/need to go is a _basic_ skill. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 09:44:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78DiDZ4012469; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:44:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78DiCsJ012464; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:44:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <102.195f289b.2a83cfa1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:44:01 EDT Subject: Re: SEE To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/8/2002 8:20:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > SEE what can happen out there? And it's nowhere close to a full moon! > Keep those eyeballs open, keep them moving - tis a jungle out there. > Someone left the door to the nuthouse open! > Osmosis: The natural process that means something will move from the higher concentration to the lower concentration through a membrane. The question is, "If you leave the door to the nuthouse open would move people move in, or out?" DAMNIFIKNOW. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 09:49:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78DnZZ4012644; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:49:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78DnZm4012640; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:49:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Motor PsychoL Danny Cc: Wayne Edelen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tire plugs Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:59:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3.0.32.20020808080307.0153ae50@noid.org> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g78DnYZ4012628 and back to the original message... I wasn't asking oppinions on wether one should plug or not.. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with the different types and which is better? Plugs work pretty well for me. On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:46:39 -0400, you wrote: >Any listers on crotch rockets throwing out their new tires cuz of a >puncture, let me know, i'll meet you at the bike shop and take it off >your hands for you.... > >plug tires work pretty well for me. > >On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:03:39 -0400, you wrote: > >>At 07:58 AM 8/8/02 -0400, you wrote: >>>> Conservative "old fart who's already hit the deck at >>>> speed once from a tire/wheel problem" approach: >>>> >>>> Sport riding -- replace tire >>>> Cruising/touring -- replace tire >>>> Bicycle -- replace tire >>>> Cage -- plug and rotate to rear, or replace tire >>>> Riding lawn mower -- plug >>>> >>>> If it's only got two wheels, I want two perfect tires >>>> on it. >>>> >>>> -- Larry >>> >>>Damn skippy - no plugs in my scoot shoes. Save for an emergency fix to >>>get me to the shoeshop for new rubber. >>> >>>Bill >> >>I picked up a nail in the rear tire of my Busa and replaced the tire. I'm >>with Larry and Bill, I feel much safer with 2 good baloney skins on the >>bike :-) >> >>-- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 09:52:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78Dq5Z4012839; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:52:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78Dq5pE012833; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:52:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Glenn Dysart Cc: Leon Begeman , Wayne Edelen , DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Pickups Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 10:02:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20020807172931.70476.qmail@web14002.mail.yahoo.com> <20020807182019.31649.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20020807182019.31649.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g78Dq3Z4012821 More room is always better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:00:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78E0wZ4013047; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:00:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78E0vt4013039; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:00:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: Stevens John R DLVA To: "DC Cycles Mailing List (E-mail)" Cc: "'fish@XXXXXX'" , "'Witold@XXXXXX'" Subject: Pickups Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:00:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g78E0uZ4013022 For a point of reference, I hauled my new VFR back from SW Virginny in the back of my Avalanche (almost as red as the VFR), and didn't need the dollar for change. The Av has a 5'3" bed, so I hadda leave the gate down. If you want to trailer something as well, then you need to be able to close the gate. Can't hitch up the trailer with the gate down, can't load the bike with the trailer in the way - voil)Bá, Catch-22! (Although I suppose you could put the bike in the boat?? ;-) (WARNING!!! Potential non-Moto content to follow!!!) Out of curiosity, what kind of boat? (used to race Lightnings in NW Pa.) Just FYI for Witold, the canyon dancer (bar harness) is the way to go, to keep the tie-downs off the bodywork. Worked great with the Viffer. John Stevens Waldorf, MD '02 VFR '77 GS750 (for sale, kinda) .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) >Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:02:53 -0500 (CDT) >From: Fish Flowers >To: DC-Cycles >Subject: Pickups > >While we're on the topic of pickups, I have an idle question for y'all. >Does a pickup bed need to be much longer than the wheelbase to fit a bike? >Now that I have a bike and a house, the next big purchase is a trailerable >sailboat, but I'll need something to tow the damn thing with. May as well >make certain whatever pickup I end up with can haul bikes in the back as >well. > >Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:04:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78E4vZ4013242; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:04:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78E4vBm013234; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:04:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 10:04:29 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: wayne@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Riding Gear Message-ID: <6229B8A2.563B061B.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Uh-huh....You're one of the ones outta work aren't you? ;-) Sick..just sick. I would've at least stopped to see if the helmet was still in good shape. hehe Scooter In a message dated Thu, 8 Aug 2002 7:16:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, wayne@XXXXXX writes: > > > Be sure to wear your riding gear... > > http://www.stickdeath.com/shorts12.html > > :-) > > -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:10:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78EAEZ4013425; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:10:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78EAEFq013420; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:10:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:10:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Pickups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Stevens John R DLVA wrote: > (Although I suppose you could put the bike in the boat?? ;-) It's not the easiest thing to load a bike into a pickup bed. _You_ try figuring out how to get it onto a boat, short of a crane... > Out of curiosity, what kind of boat? Well, probably a Laser to start with (don't need a trailer for those, nor a tow vehicle, and they're relatively cheap to buy and maintain). After that, I've been looking at water-ballast boats in the 24-26' range. Hunter 26 looks pretty schweet, as does the Catalina 250. Probably a couple of years before I get enough saved up, but I can dream, right? Fish. currently dreaming about md moto inspections, nightmaring rather From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:10:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78EAXZ4013584; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:10:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78EAXpE013578; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:10:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:10:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tire plugs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > Any listers on crotch rockets throwing out their new tires cuz of a > puncture, let me know, i'll meet you at the bike shop and take it off > your hands for you.... > > plug tires work pretty well for me. I have a 190 50 17 BT56 in my garage with 2500 miles on it (about to the wear bars) with a hole in it. It's yours if you want it. -- Wayne - http://www.purplecar.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:13:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78EDOZ4013747; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:13:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78EDOij013742; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:13:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <1a6.66c3b91.2a83d679@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:13:13 EDT Subject: Re: Pickups To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/8/2002 10:01:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, StevensJR@XXXXXX writes: > If you want to trailer something as well, then you need to be able to close > the gate. Can't hitch up the trailer with the gate down, Remove the gate, usually easy, no tools, 30sec. job. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:14:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78EEHZ4013914; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:14:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78EEHoD013905; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:14:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:14:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Pickups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g78EEFZ4013893 On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Stevens John R DLVA wrote: > If you want to trailer something as well, then you need to be able to close > the gate. Can't hitch up the trailer with the gate down, can't load the > bike with the trailer in the way - voil)Bá, Catch-22! (Although I suppose you > could put the bike in the boat?? ;-) I have an 18' Brimar car trailer and I wouldn't have any trouble attaching it to my Suburban with the rear gate open. I guess my point being, it depends on what kind of trailer you're using :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:15:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78EF9Z4014080; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:15:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78EF8Qx014074; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:15:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020808101302.00a10b00@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 10:14:11 -0400 To: "Lisa Goddard" , From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Transporting a bike In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:33 AM 8/8/02, Lisa Goddard wrote: >I am out on the south course friday with their >Aprilia's. Whose Aprilias, Lisa? Is this an Aprilia-sponsored event? Inquiring Falco owners want to know...8;) Thanks -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:16:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78EG3Z4014241; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:16:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78EG2I6014234; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:16:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:16:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Riding Gear In-Reply-To: <6229B8A2.563B061B.0C9D3659@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Aug 2002 ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > Uh-huh....You're one of the ones outta work aren't you? ;-) Sick..just sick. I would've at least stopped to see if the helmet was still in good shape. hehe > > Scooter Nope, I manage a data warehouse for a health care company in Bethesda, MD. :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:19:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78EJUZ4014435; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:19:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78EJTeh014423; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:19:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'Fish Flowers'" Cc: "'DC-Cycles'" Subject: Topic of Pickups Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:19:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >While we're on the topic of pickups, I have an idle question for y'all. >Does a pickup bed need to be much longer than the wheelbase to fit a bike? >Now that I have a bike and a house, the next big purchase is a trailerable >sailboat, but I'll need something to tow the damn thing with. May as well >make certain whatever pickup I end up with can haul bikes in the back as> >well. >Fish. I've always had 8 foot beds. Plenty of room for ANY bike, plus what ever. I use a 6 point tie down (3 on a side) it's probably overkill, but it works for me. gb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:19:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78EJUZ4014437; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:19:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78EJTff014429; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:19:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 10:19:24 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: wayne@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Riding Gear Message-ID: <1146842C.241D38A6.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated Thu, 8 Aug 2002 9:16:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, wayne@XXXXXX writes: > > > On Thu, 8 Aug 2002 ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > > > Uh-huh....You're one of the ones outta work aren't you? ;-) Sick..just sick. I would've at least stopped to see if the helmet was still in good shape. hehe > > > > Scooter > > Nope, I manage a data warehouse for a health care company > in Bethesda, > MD. :-) > > -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ Yep. Almost as bad. Management with nothing to do but surf the web for that kinda stuff. ;-) Scooter From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:23:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78ENXZ4014764; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:23:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78ENWKv014760; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:23:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: GPz 1100 for sale Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:23:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" A friend of mine is downsizing the stable here's the info: GPZ 1100. 1984 GPZ-1100 A1 Purchased in Japan - shipped to USA Condition: Runs good / looks fair 5000 original miles / needs a little restoration work 120 rear HP Asking $2,500 Contact: Randy (202) 359-0510 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:34:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78EYNZ4014980; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:34:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78EYNmD014975; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:34:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <01a301c23ee8$47543170$a500a8c0@C4ZJ911> From: "Gary Foreman" To: References: <20020808131102.9627.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Rt. 211 on a Wed Evening? Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:30:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 I thinks you would take 66 west to 17s. to Warrenton. Then take 211 West. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Blanck" To: Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Rt. 211 on a Wed Evening? > what part(s) of 211 are worth doing? what would be > the best way to get there, coming from DC (either 395 > or 66); i think i will take your advice and get out > there one of these weekend evevings .... thx jib From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:46:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78EkgZ4015155; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:46:42 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78EkgO7015150; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:46:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:49:31 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Gary Foreman cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rt. 211 on a Wed Evening? In-Reply-To: <01a301c23ee8$47543170$a500a8c0@C4ZJ911> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Gary Foreman wrote: > I thinks you would take 66 west to 17s. to Warrenton. Then take 211 West. > > Gary > And don't stop at the first mountain. There is another one a little ways behind it! Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:54:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78EsIZ4015370; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:54:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78EsIxT015366; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:54:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <01b701c23eeb$0fc3c4c0$a500a8c0@C4ZJ911> From: "Gary Foreman" To: , References: <66.25300195.2a83cdfc@aol.com> Subject: Re: Rt. 211 on a Wed Evening? Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:50:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Unfortunately he thinks basic skills are: A. Popping wheelies. B. Doing Stoppies. C. Racing everyone else. Yes, I know, an accident waiting to happen. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Rt. 211 on a Wed Evening? > In a message dated 8/8/2002 7:28:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > iefbr142000@XXXXXX writes: > > > Or maybe an Experienced Rider Course? There's a lot > > of talk about Looking Through the Turn there. > > > > Or a Beginnig Rider Course? Not meant to be insulting, but looking where you > want/need to go is a _basic_ skill. > > John. > PenguinBiker@XXXXXX > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 10:58:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78EwOZ4015605; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:58:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78EwNg8015600; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:58:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020808105945.02605700@mail.ncifcrf.gov> X-Sender: wilsonl@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:00:49 -0700 To: Larry Larson , "Lisa Goddard" , From: Lori Wilson Subject: Re: Transporting a bike In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020808101302.00a10b00@mail.9netave.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Aprilia USA and Femmoto are sponsoring a womens demo track day.... for the super low price of $55 you get to ride Aprilia USA's Mille, Falco, and Futura on the south course at VIR I am SO there I can not wait I leave in mere hours At 10:14 AM 8/8/02 -0400, Larry Larson wrote: >At 09:33 AM 8/8/02, Lisa Goddard wrote: >>I am out on the south course friday with their >>Aprilia's. > >Whose Aprilias, Lisa? Is this an Aprilia-sponsored event? Inquiring Falco >owners want to know...8;) > >Thanks -- Larry > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 11:28:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78FSQZ4016033; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:28:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78FSPTD016022; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:28:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:31:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: SEE In-Reply-To: <3D52632E.9B2DEE4B@patriot.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, William J. Huson wrote: > Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:25:18 -0400 > From: "William J. Huson" > To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" > Subject: SEE > > See - Search, Evaluate, Execute - the new acronym to replace SIPDE. I > like it, SEE relates to look, and SEE fits with the philosphy of KISS - > Keep It Simple, Stupid. I have it on good information that the Virginia DMV is still using SIPDE and that it shows up on their test still. Is this going to be changing in the future? Rode to work this morning, beautiful day for it. Biggest moron I saw was on Rt 50, between 7 corners and Annandale rd. A car blipped out from a right side access and across the west bound lanes in an attempt to get to the east bound lanes -- even though there was already someone in the turn through and despite the fact that there was a LARGE black SUV with dc-plates and a pair of light bars on top in one lane and me (small black vfr, no lightbars) in the other. NBD, he was well out of my lane before I was anywhere close, but he did get a short siren blast out of SUV. I saw in far enough back to be well rolled off the throttle and covering the controls. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 12:53:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78GrXZ4016672; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:53:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78GrW33016661; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:53:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbIxF3VZ22+g/72xptxvl34TfsxCruM77fC9S43I6yRtdYT+qCwqR9Jt5GF+JSEdZ0= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: Rt. 211 on a Wed Evening? Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:54:18 -0400 Message-ID: <009901c23efc$3d3c2df0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <01a301c23ee8$47543170$a500a8c0@C4ZJ911> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal blech. Take 66 to exit 27. Turn left at the top of the ramp, turn right onto 647 just after you cross over the interstate. 647 until it T-s, then turn left. Go slow through flint hill. Turn right when that road (522) T-s into 211. Follow speed limit signs until you hit the twisty parts. --jon -----Original Message----- From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:31 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rt. 211 on a Wed Evening? I thinks you would take 66 west to 17s. to Warrenton. Then take 211 West. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Isaac Blanck" To: Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Rt. 211 on a Wed Evening? > what part(s) of 211 are worth doing? what would be > the best way to get there, coming from DC (either 395 > or 66); i think i will take your advice and get out > there one of these weekend evevings .... thx jib From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 12:56:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78GuZZ4016976; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:56:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78GuYJx016970; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:56:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYp9LITrRwmUr0R6iLW0VpbtjuI+aqAmtgDth8EHVBcE3Fa89/4WUHPgJ+knUkcz6g= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: Aprilia/Femmoto demo day Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:57:21 -0400 Message-ID: <009a01c23efc$aa0b6770$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020808105945.02605700@mail.ncifcrf.gov> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal Hot chicks *and* Aprilias. I wouldn't know what to do with myself. Drool or drool? I better keep my fat, bald, acne-laden @ss in the computer lab that day. --jon -----Original Message----- From: Lori Wilson [mailto:wilsonl@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:01 PM To: Larry Larson; Lisa Goddard; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Transporting a bike Aprilia USA and Femmoto are sponsoring a womens demo track day.... for the super low price of $55 you get to ride Aprilia USA's Mille, Falco, and Futura on the south course at VIR I am SO there I can not wait I leave in mere hours At 10:14 AM 8/8/02 -0400, Larry Larson wrote: >At 09:33 AM 8/8/02, Lisa Goddard wrote: >>I am out on the south course friday with their >>Aprilia's. > >Whose Aprilias, Lisa? Is this an Aprilia-sponsored event? Inquiring Falco >owners want to know...8;) > >Thanks -- Larry > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 13:03:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78H31Z4017338; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:03:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78H3045017328; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:03:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020808170258.41823.qmail@web21410.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:02:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Larson Subject: US 50 to Cincinnati? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <01b701c23eeb$0fc3c4c0$a500a8c0@C4ZJ911> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Has anyone ever ridden US 50 all the way to Cincinnati? Is it likely to be a good ride across WV and through the hills of southeastern OH, or is it all strip malls and stop lights like US 1? Thanks -- Larry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 13:13:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78HDMZ4017681; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:13:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78HDMUX017676; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:13:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Brad Faas" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:09:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Question for the MSF instructors... Message-ID: <3D526D98.11621.10AD8300@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Kind of an odd-ball question, but.... Is a street legal motorcycle required to take the Experienced Rider Course? Thanks. Brad From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 13:21:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78HL5Z4018041; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:21:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78HL5Uv018036; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:21:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <049401c23f00$a646c180$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Larry Larson" Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: <20020808170258.41823.qmail@web21410.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: US 50 to Cincinnati? Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:25:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 50 to Cincinnati is a good route for the most part. Strip malls and traffic lights require population and there's not a lot of that along the route. Part of it is divided highway superslab between Clarksburg, WV and Athens, OH. 50 between Winchester, VA and Clarksburg is well worth the price of admission. Paul in DC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Larson" > Has anyone ever ridden US 50 all the way to > Cincinnati? Is it likely to be a good ride across WV > and through the hills of southeastern OH, or is it all > strip malls and stop lights like US 1? > > Thanks -- Larry > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 13:38:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78HcKZ4018445; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:38:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78HcKfS018440; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:38:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020808133225.026091e0@mail.ncifcrf.gov> X-Sender: wilsonl@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 13:40:49 -0700 To: , From: Lori Wilson Subject: Re: Aprilia/Femmoto demo day In-Reply-To: <009a01c23efc$aa0b6770$070312ac@ddlomni.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020808105945.02605700@mail.ncifcrf.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hopefully not TOO hot in the full leathers. Weather is supposed to be nice.... And I second the *drool* for the Aprilias.. At 12:57 PM 8/8/02 -0400, Jon Strang wrote: >Hot chicks *and* Aprilias. > >I wouldn't know what to do with myself. Drool or drool? > >I better keep my fat, bald, acne-laden @ss in the >computer lab that day. > >--jon > >-----Original Message----- >From: Lori Wilson [mailto:wilsonl@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:01 PM >To: Larry Larson; Lisa Goddard; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Transporting a bike > > >Aprilia USA >and Femmoto are sponsoring a womens demo track day.... >for the super low price of $55 you get to ride Aprilia USA's Mille, Falco, >and Futura on the south course at VIR > >I am SO there > >I can >not >wait >I leave >in mere >hours > >At 10:14 AM 8/8/02 -0400, Larry Larson wrote: > >At 09:33 AM 8/8/02, Lisa Goddard wrote: > >>I am out on the south course friday with their > >>Aprilia's. > > > >Whose Aprilias, Lisa? Is this an Aprilia-sponsored event? Inquiring Falco > >owners want to know...8;) > > > >Thanks -- Larry > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 13:38:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78HcsZ4018609; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:38:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78HcsHt018603; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:38:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020808173851.96331.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:38:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Isaac Blanck Subject: Re: Question for the MSF instructors... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3D526D98.11621.10AD8300@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii no; the only time i've heard of someone being required to take the course was after a dui conviction by order of a judge; however, i just took the ERC last Sunday, and it was a worthwhile way to spend the day; practicing skills and meeting other moto lovers ... --- Brad Faas wrote: > Kind of an odd-ball question, but.... > > Is a street legal motorcycle required to take the > Experienced Rider > Course? > > Thanks. > > Brad > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 13:47:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78Hl3Z4019095; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:47:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78Hl3x1019089; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:47:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020808174701.27656.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:47:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Question for the MSF instructors... To: Isaac Blanck , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020808173851.96331.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You misread the question. Yes, one is required to have a street legal bike to take the class. They do not supply bikes. --- Isaac Blanck wrote: > no; the only time i've heard of someone being > required > to take the course was after a dui conviction by > order > of a judge; however, i just took the ERC last > Sunday, > and it was a worthwhile way to spend the day; > practicing skills and meeting other moto lovers ... > --- Brad Faas wrote: > > Kind of an odd-ball question, but.... > > > > Is a street legal motorcycle required to take the > > Experienced Rider > > Course? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Brad > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 13:47:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78HlJZ4019125; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:47:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78HlIwp019120; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:47:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Brad Faas" To: Isaac Blanck , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:43:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Question for the MSF instructors... Message-ID: <3D52758D.16193.10CC9825@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20020808173851.96331.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3D526D98.11621.10AD8300@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sorry, I was asking if I needed to have a street legal motorcycle in order to take the course (I'm interested in taking it, but my bikes are ummm, lacking in a few departments, like headlights, mirrors, brake lights, etc). :-) Wondering if it would be frowned upon to show up and unload a bike from a truck... Brad On 8 Aug 2002 at 10:38, Isaac Blanck wrote: > no; the only time i've heard of someone being required > to take the course was after a dui conviction by order > of a judge; however, i just took the ERC last Sunday, > and it was a worthwhile way to spend the day; > practicing skills and meeting other moto lovers ... > --- Brad Faas wrote: > > Kind of an odd-ball question, but.... > > > > Is a street legal motorcycle required to take the > > Experienced Rider > > Course? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Brad > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 13:57:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78HvjZ4019740; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:57:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78Hvjqo019731; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:57:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tire mounting around Reston? Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 14:08:01 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1b9.47b4511.2a83cb66@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <1b9.47b4511.2a83cb66@aol.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g78HviZ4019719 I will do that.. I don't mind.. especially if it will save me some flats... but is your theory just a theory or is it fact? how was this knowledge gained? On Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:25:58 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 8/7/2002 9:49:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >motorcycle@XXXXXX writes: > >> So we should install little rubber flaps on our belly pans then? > >If you do not mind riding a bike with a flap on its belly it would prolly >work. I for one would rather carry a plug kit. > >John. >PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 14:02:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78I28Z4020077; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:02:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78I2834020071; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:02:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Wayne Edelen Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tire plugs Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 14:12:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g78I26Z4020054 Yep I sure do! I could use that right about now anyway! shoot me an email about when and where to come get it. Thanks! On Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:10:30 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > >> Any listers on crotch rockets throwing out their new tires cuz of a >> puncture, let me know, i'll meet you at the bike shop and take it off >> your hands for you.... >> >> plug tires work pretty well for me. > >I have a 190 50 17 BT56 in my garage with 2500 miles on it (about to the >wear bars) with a hole in it. It's yours if you want it. > >-- Wayne - http://www.purplecar.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 14:46:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78IkUZ4020677; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:46:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78IkTpH020673; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:46:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <003b01c23f0c$91702b00$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Brad Faas" Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: <3D526D98.11621.10AD8300@localhost> <3D52758D.16193.10CC9825@localhost> Subject: Re: Question for the MSF instructors... Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:42:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 It has to be registered and pass a "tech inspection." If you can figure out a way to do that without being "street legal" you're good to go. You, as the operator, need a valid endorsement too. I'd recommend borrowing a street bike for the course. Paul in DC BRC MSF guy, not ERC....yet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Faas" > Sorry, I was asking if I needed to have a street legal motorcycle in > order to take the course (I'm interested in taking it, but my bikes are > ummm, lacking in a few departments, like headlights, mirrors, > brake lights, etc). :-) Wondering if it would be frowned upon to show > up and unload a bike from a truck... > > Brad From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 14:52:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78IqDZ4021007; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:52:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78IqCM0021002; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:52:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'sdave@XXXXXX'" Subject: Nags Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:52:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" [Dave] OB encompasses (some consider Duck), Kill Devil Hills, Kitty Hawk, Nags Head, ?????? & Manteo has some sound side property. [GB] Dave is detail oriented.... I was referring to where Nags Head is not what the Outer Banks in comprised of. [Dave] It *STILL IS* a beautiful place to go. One year, I drove from Nags Head, through Ocracoke via the 2 ferries past Oak Island down to Cape Lookout. Because it looked like an all day affair, I left early. Good thing, it was an all day affair, and the only place to get gas before the Ocracoke ferry thank goodness had credit card 'pay at the pump' islands - $50 reserve be DAMNED ;-) [GB] It's a zoo, not unlike Myrtle, Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge, Daytona... out of those three, there's no hope for a hurricane in Gatlinburg. Back in the old days..... they had dollar pumps in NC where you put in your 1 dollar bills and pumped gas. One always traveled with a wad of $1.00 Federal Reserve Notes... or you didn't get gas between the hours of 6pm and 8am. [Dave] I must stick up & defend Nags Head (my honeymoon town !). Traffic is NOWHERE NEAR Ocean $hitty levels, you can actually do the 50 mph speed limit on the main strip (12?). Nags Head beaches are Dog Friendly too (for responsible pet owners that don't allow their animals to leave gifts.. ) Kill Devil Hills is not... [GB] I go to Florida now..... awesome fishing, calmer sea conditions (for the most part)... the gulf stream is a little farther out. I will give the outer banks credit for a better surf fishing experience. However, after some AWESOME pier fishing events in Florida... that's were I dip the hook. I prefer to ride the Blue Ridge.... the beach is for other interests. Seeya gb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 14:59:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78IxRZ4021341; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:59:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78IxQBX021332; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:59:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:59:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Nags In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Bruhl, George LT wrote: > [Dave] I must stick up & defend Nags Head (my honeymoon town !). Traffic > is NOWHERE NEAR Ocean $hitty levels, you can actually do the 50 mph speed > limit on the main strip (12?). Nags Head beaches are Dog Friendly too (for > responsible pet owners that don't allow their animals to leave gifts.. ) > Kill Devil Hills is not... > > [GB] I go to Florida now..... awesome fishing, calmer sea conditions (for > the most part)... the gulf stream is a little farther out. I will give the > outer banks credit for a better surf fishing experience. However, after > some AWESOME pier fishing events in Florida... that's were I dip the hook. > I prefer to ride the Blue Ridge.... the beach is for other interests. Each year, I rent a house in the Outer Banks with some friends and we drink really epic wine for 7 days straight :-) This year, we're in Duck in a 7500sq ft'er right on the beach. We always go the first week off season, since the prices drop down from $9000-10000/week down to like $3000/week. http://www.purplecar.org/beach/P0001722.JPG is our supply from last year. -- Wayne - http://www.purplecar.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 15:08:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78J8IZ4021701; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:08:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78J8IbI021693; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:08:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:11:01 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Wayne Edelen cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Nags In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Each year, I rent a house in the Outer Banks with some friends and we > drink really epic wine for 7 days straight :-) This year, we're in Duck > in a 7500sq ft'er right on the beach. We always go the first week off > season, since the prices drop down from $9000-10000/week down to like > $3000/week. > > http://www.purplecar.org/beach/P0001722.JPG is our supply from last > year. > http://www.purplecar.org/beach/P0001731.JPG ... what a dump ;-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 15:13:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78JDHZ4022025; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:13:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78JDH1q022020; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:13:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:13:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Nags In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, dan wrote: > http://www.purplecar.org/beach/P0001731.JPG ... what a dump ;-) Inside the 2 story back glasss is the indoor pool... it was a real pit ;-) ;-) -- Wayne - http://www.purplecar.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 16:01:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78K14Z4022633; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 16:01:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78K13oo022625; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 16:01:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020808200100.81393.qmail@web21405.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:01:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Nags To: dan , Wayne Edelen Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > http://www.purplecar.org/beach/P0001722.JPG is our > supply from last year. Those bottles on the extreme right look suspiciously unlike wine... And where's the lever Screwpull? And maybe a few glasses for those more formal occasions? 8;) -- Larry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 16:08:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78K8TZ4022955; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 16:08:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78K8T4l022949; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 16:08:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:08:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Nags In-Reply-To: <20020808200100.81393.qmail@web21405.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Larry Larson wrote: > > http://www.purplecar.org/beach/P0001722.JPG is our > > supply from last year. > > Those bottles on the extreme right look suspiciously > unlike wine... Yeah, the Lapis tequila (mmm, yummy), Madeira and port are necessary evils, too ;-) I think someone brought beer, although I don't know that it was consumed. > And where's the lever Screwpull? And maybe a few > glasses for those more formal occasions? 8;) They're around, just couldn't get them in the pic ;-) -- Wayne From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 16:19:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78KJkZ4023349; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 16:19:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78KJkdF023344; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 16:19:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 16:20:06 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: wayne@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Nags Message-ID: <04EE818D.03B540F3.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Holy SHIT!!! That's a complete wine cellar. My sister would love you. ;-) Scooter > http://www.purplecar.org/beach/P0001722.JPG is our supply > from last > year. > > -- Wayne - http://www.purplecar.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 17:20:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78LKsZ4024168; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:20:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78LKrgU024159; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:20:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Scott R. Russell" To: "Brad Faas" , "Isaac Blanck" , Subject: RE: Question for the MSF instructors... Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:19:14 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3D52758D.16193.10CC9825@localhost> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal I just took the ERC (Experienced Riders Course) in Glen Burnie. They did provide motorcycles for the course even though they say they don't. Oh well. Scott -----Original Message----- From: Brad Faas [mailto:mcracer980@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:44 PM To: Isaac Blanck; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question for the MSF instructors... Sorry, I was asking if I needed to have a street legal motorcycle in order to take the course (I'm interested in taking it, but my bikes are ummm, lacking in a few departments, like headlights, mirrors, brake lights, etc). :-) Wondering if it would be frowned upon to show up and unload a bike from a truck... Brad On 8 Aug 2002 at 10:38, Isaac Blanck wrote: > no; the only time i've heard of someone being required > to take the course was after a dui conviction by order > of a judge; however, i just took the ERC last Sunday, > and it was a worthwhile way to spend the day; > practicing skills and meeting other moto lovers ... > --- Brad Faas wrote: > > Kind of an odd-ball question, but.... > > > > Is a street legal motorcycle required to take the > > Experienced Rider > > Course? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Brad > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 17:51:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78LpWZ4024791; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:51:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78LpWUM024786; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:51:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 17:51:30 -0400 Subject: Textile jackets From: Richard Westbrook To: DC-Cycles Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Aug 2002 21:51:30.0363 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0F840B0:01C23F25] I have been thinking about getting a Textile Jacket (my leather isn't stretching as much as my gut:-) and was wondering of anyone had any recommendations or things to look out for. On my short list is the Teknic Mach One, and First Gear Kilimanjaro, so far. I have also looked at the Aerostich but it's out of my price range. My only requirements are a liner (preferably fleece), pockets, and enough vents to keep me somewhat cool in DC summers. Thanks -Rich From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 17:53:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78LrPZ4025198; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:53:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78LrPl6025193; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:53:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-pair-Authenticated: 209.124.21.254 From: "Wesleyan Hsu" To: Subject: RE: Question for the MSF instructors... Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:53:13 -0400 Message-ID: <001501c23f26$01e1d640$3345080a@R1100S> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal What is it with rider courses in MD? In VA, we have to provide our own bikes for the ERC. And, a friend of mine took the BRC in MD a few months ago. A few weeks after graduation, the instructor invited graduates to ride on the road...and "he" supplied the bikes. And this was all for free. And, you guys get to use radar detectors! grrrrr I gotta move... Wes > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott R. Russell [mailto:MacDa@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 5:19 PM > To: Brad Faas; Isaac Blanck; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Question for the MSF instructors... > > > I just took the ERC (Experienced Riders Course) in Glen > Burnie. They did provide motorcycles for the course even > though they say they don't. > > Oh well. > > Scott > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Faas [mailto:mcracer980@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:44 PM > To: Isaac Blanck; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Question for the MSF instructors... > > > Sorry, I was asking if I needed to have a street legal > motorcycle in order to take the course (I'm interested in > taking it, but my bikes are ummm, lacking in a few > departments, like headlights, mirrors, brake lights, etc). > :-) Wondering if it would be frowned upon to show up and > unload a bike from a truck... > > Brad > > On 8 Aug 2002 at 10:38, Isaac Blanck wrote: > > > no; the only time i've heard of someone being required > > to take the course was after a dui conviction by order > > of a judge; however, i just took the ERC last Sunday, > > and it was a worthwhile way to spend the day; > > practicing skills and meeting other moto lovers ... > > --- Brad Faas wrote: > > > Kind of an odd-ball question, but.... > > > > > > Is a street legal motorcycle required to take the > Experienced Rider > > > Course? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Brad > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > > http://www.hotjobs.com > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 18:36:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78MaTZ4025811; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 18:36:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78MaS65025803; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 18:36:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020808223626.62180.qmail@web20703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 15:36:26 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Fwd: New postings at New Enough To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii someone was asking about MC gear. This just came thru my inbox and has specials on the items the poster was considering... --- Holly at New Enough wrote: > From: "Holly at New Enough" > To: "newenough" > Subject: New postings at New Enough > Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:40:03 -0500 > > We have just added the following items to our pages at New Enough. > Thank > you for shopping with us. > > New Vanson Pants Page: http://www.newenough.com/vansonpants.htm > > Vanson Technical Sport Pants > Vanson catalog numbers: > TEPS (solid black leather) > TEPV (perforated black leather) > Price: $499 (but there's a $50 rebate on these pants through > 12/31/02) > Overall Condition: New > > New Fieldsheer Pants Page: http://www.newenough.com/fspants.htm > > Fieldsheer Sport Air Pants in Short Inseams > Price: $249 > Overall Condition: New > > New Closeout Jackets & Pants Page: > http://www.newenough.com/closeoutjacketsandpants.htm > > "Ballistic 3.0" Textile Touring Jacket (also in tall sizes) > Price: $119 > Overall Condition: New > > Used Vanson Pants Page: http://www.newenough.com/usedvansonpants.htm > > Vanson PTTV Traveler Pants, size Large > Price: $320.00 > STK#: 543 > Overall Condition: Like New > > Used Hein Gericke/FirstGear Jackets Page: > http://www.newenough.com/usedhein.htm > > FirstGear Scout Jacket, size M > Price: $190.00 > STK#: 538 > Overall Condition: Excellent > > Used Jackets Page: http://www.newenough.com/usedsportjackets.htm > > HJC Sport Jacket, size 48 > Price: $230.00 > STK#: 539 > Overall Condition: Like New > > Used Pants Page: http://www.newenough.com/usedpants.htm > > Joe Rocket Hustler Pants, size 38 > Price: $149.00 > STK#: 534 > Overall Condition: Like New > > Used Suits Page: http://www.newenough.com/usedsuits.htm > > Joe Rocket Highside 1pc Suit, size 44 > Price: $400.00 > STK#: 533 > Overall Condition: Like New > > Teknic Chicane 2 pc Suit, size 46 > Price: $195.00 > STK#: 536 > Overall Condition: Good > > Used Boots & Gloves Page: > http://www.newenough.com/usedbootsandgloves.htm > > Teknic Violator Boots, size 10 > Price: $90.00 > STK#: 537 > Overall Condition: Excellent > > Sidi Vertebra II Boots , size 45 > Price: $199.00 > STK#: 535 > Overall Condition: New but no box > > Check out our eBay listings for this week: > http://www.newenough.com/ebayauctions.htm > > Please give Holly or me a call if we can be of service. > > Sincerely, > > Paul Thompson > New Enough Motorcycle Leathers > website: www.newenough.com > email: paul@XXXXXX > 888-530-7351 > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from our list go here: http://two.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/newenough __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 19:17:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78NHwZ4026569; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 19:17:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78NHvgH026562; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 19:17:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D52FD71.73C22DD4@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 19:23:29 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jmstrang@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Aprilia/Femmoto demo day References: <009a01c23efc$aa0b6770$070312ac@ddlomni.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jon Strang wrote: > Hot chicks *and* Aprilias. > > I wouldn't know what to do with myself. Drool or drool? > > I better keep my fat, bald, acne-laden @ss in the > computer lab that day. > > --jon > Larry has an Aprilla - maybe he could go in drag? Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 19:21:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g78NLfZ4026992; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 19:21:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g78NLeWp026986; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 19:21:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D52FE53.609B0574@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 19:27:15 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Faas CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question for the MSF instructors... References: <3D526D98.11621.10AD8300@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brad Faas wrote: > Kind of an odd-ball question, but.... > > Is a street legal motorcycle required to take the Experienced Rider > Course? > > Thanks. > > Brad Yes, tagged, insured, and inspected. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 20:04:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7904tZ4027790; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:04:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7904sJF027782; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:04:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020808144858.009eb950@mail.mac.com> X-Sender: eternity23@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 14:49:57 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: Topic of Pickups In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I've always liked Seymor Duncans. That's what I have in my Thinline Telecaster. The stock Fender Lace Sensors in my Strat are pretty nice too. -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 20:12:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g790CeZ4028218; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:12:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g790Ce79028213; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:12:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <11f.149c35cc.2a8462eb@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:12:27 EDT Subject: Re: tire mounting around Reston? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/8/2002 1:57:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, motorcycle@XXXXXX writes: > but is your theory just a theory or is it fact? how was this > knowledge gained? I do not remember where I first heard this, but I believe it is generally thought to be what happens. It does make sense to me and is the only theory (more accurately a hypothesis) that I have ever heard that does. I have no idea how many rear flats I have had over the miles (400-500,000mi.) but I can tell you how many I have had on the front, Zero, nada, zip. (I did have one on a dirt bike that had been converted to street legality (A TM400 motocrosser) #8-0 > But that was riding in the dirt, although I did ride it home on the street _with_ the flat. I have always carried some way to fix a flat, at least temporarily, so it just does not seem worth the hassle to me. (Although the way my ST has been getting flats I may change my mind. It has _never_ worn out a rear tire without at least one.) John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 22:03:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7923cZ4029232; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 22:03:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7923arE029220; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 22:03:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809020328.22381.qmail@web21402.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 19:03:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Aprilia/Femmoto demo day To: "William J. Huson" , jmstrang@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3D52FD71.73C22DD4@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey, just because I had to wear a kilt to my best friend's wedding last October doesn't mean I make a habit of it... but maybe for the track time it would be worth it. Black watch plaid over black leather -- hot! -- Larry --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > Jon Strang wrote: > > > Hot chicks *and* Aprilias. > > > > I wouldn't know what to do with myself. Drool or > drool? > > > > I better keep my fat, bald, > acne-laden @ss in the > > computer lab that day. > > > > --jon > > > > Larry has an Aprilla - maybe he could go in drag? > > Bill > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 22:27:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g792RuZ4029728; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 22:27:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g792Ru6N029721; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 22:27:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020808222204.00a330a0@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 22:25:23 -0400 To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Topic of Pickups In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020808144858.009eb950@mail.mac.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:49 PM 8/8/02, Sean Jordan wrote: >I've always liked Seymor Duncans. ... > >The stock Fender Lace .... You picked up a guy named Seymour, and you're heavily into lace? Even on a mailing list with Chuck and TG, this sounds strange. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 23:26:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g793QFZ4030367; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 23:26:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g793QE9m030358; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 23:26:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <003401c23f54$fd059740$7e531840@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: Randy Renfrow's really hurt... Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 23:29:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Check out: http://www.amasuperbike.com/newind.htm and look at 08.07.02 Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard 1982 Honda ATC185S Pit Vehicle 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project You know you're addicted to racing when you refer to the end of your driveway as 'Pit Out' From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Aug 8 23:31:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g793V4Z4030784; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 23:31:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g793V3kZ030779; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 23:31:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.48.118.251] From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Randy Renfrow's really hurt... Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 23:29:56 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2002 03:29:57.0109 (UTC) FILETIME=[08BBCA50:01C23F55] Oh, man. How awful. Get well soon, Randy. Rob '98 VFR800 From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: Randy Renfrow's really hurt... Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 23:29:35 -0400 Check out: http://www.amasuperbike.com/newind.htm and look at 08.07.02 Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard 1982 Honda ATC185S Pit Vehicle 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project You know you're addicted to racing when you refer to the end of your driveway as 'Pit Out' _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 07:21:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79BLIZ4001209; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 07:21:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79BLFdG001195; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 07:21:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D53A6FA.B66CE698@patriot.net> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 07:26:50 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Larry Larson CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: US 50 to Cincinnati? References: <20020808170258.41823.qmail@web21410.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Larry Larson wrote: > Has anyone ever ridden US 50 all the way to > Cincinnati? Is it likely to be a good ride across WV > and through the hills of southeastern OH, or is it all > strip malls and stop lights like US 1? > > Thanks -- Larry Unless rt 50 has been modified since my last trip in the late '80s, you'll be able to catch the glow from your tailights while navigating the hairpin turns in WV. From Romney on it's a twistie-blast! Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 08:53:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79Cr0Z4001929; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 08:53:00 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79CqxXD001918; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 08:52:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tire flap was: tire mounting around Reston? Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 09:03:24 -0400 Message-ID: <9ee7lukhpnccjtei91u5qn6jjgcnb93g8u@4ax.com> References: <11f.149c35cc.2a8462eb@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <11f.149c35cc.2a8462eb@aol.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g79CqvZ4001906 John, I appreciate the repsone.. I think I'll go ahead and install that flap... it's interesting... because if you think about it, the flats are always with the nail/screw/etc facing inwards as if stabbed or shot. (proppelled). We know the debri's don't sit upright and get run over.. maybe it *is* shot from the front. I'll test the theory. I'd like to see what happens. If my flat quocient goes down. Worst case scenario, my bike looks a little funny.. it'll be interesting to find a nail proppelled into the flap.. that would prove the theory. Ok people might ask me "what is that" often, but i want that flap.. hell conversation peices aren't too bad. i personally would rather have less flat tires, and sturdier tires since I am a sportbike rider. I always did wonder why the front didn't get flats too often. Hmm now.. what about a flap material... Do I go cut regular mud flaps down to size.. bolt it to the belly pan.. and where do I want to mount it.. towards the front of the belly pan or towards the rear.. sounds like a fun little project to me.. Any ideas? anyone? (hmm I could always mount 2, one in the front and one in the back) it would look even worse but act even better.. "dude what are those things on your bike" " I'm testing this anti flat tire theory" matter of fact... botl nothing... zip ties! Hmm I think i have an old rubber car mat somewhere.. that might work well too.. Hmm the thicker the better me thinks.. any further ideas anyone? oh shoot wait... the wind may blow the flaps up there by negating them... Hmmmmmmmmmmm ? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 08:54:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79CsWZ4002183; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 08:54:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79CsVld002176; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 08:54:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [199.228.142.5] From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: US 50 to Cincinnati? Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 08:53:24 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2002 12:53:24.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[BF907610:01C23FA3] In addition to enjoying the twists and turns in WV, remember to slow down (really!) in the towns, or "speed zones," as the local constabulary would love nothing better than to pull you over and tax you. You can get away with a good bit between the towns, but be very careful in the towns. They do tend to run radar, so a good detector is a nice addition. Perry >From: "Paul Wilson" >To: "Larry Larson" >CC: "dc-cycles list" >Subject: Re: US 50 to Cincinnati? >Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:25:51 -0400 > >50 to Cincinnati is a good route for the most part. Strip malls and >traffic >lights require population and there's not a lot of that along the route. >Part of it is divided highway superslab between Clarksburg, WV and Athens, >OH. 50 between Winchester, VA and Clarksburg is well worth the price of >admission. > >Paul in DC >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Larry Larson" > > > > > Has anyone ever ridden US 50 all the way to > > Cincinnati? Is it likely to be a good ride across WV > > and through the hills of southeastern OH, or is it all > > strip malls and stop lights like US 1? > > > > Thanks -- Larry > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > > http://www.hotjobs.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 09:37:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79Db6Z4002641; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:37:06 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79Db6jV002636; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:37:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: (fwd) Re: accident on harry truman Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 09:47:32 -0400 Message-ID: <5vh7luska7jbmhqh8v71e8jjs4bn1ovrju@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g79Db4Z4002619 On Fri, 09 Aug 2002 09:41:07 -0400, Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: >a friend of mine knows him, and one of his close friends.. >said "he went in too hot" I dont know if that means he used his >brakes, or slid out or what.. I wonder... > >it was mentioned to me, but I forgot what kind of bike he had.. > >For some of you newer riders, take heed, As you can see motorcycling >is extremely dangerous. It's important to know how to prevent these >types of accidents. It's also better to learn from other people's >accidents than your own. > >Slow in, fast out. SLow down ample before the curve, and not *in* the >curve, and if you think you're going to fast in the curve, don't try >to slow down, lean harder, look to the inside of the curve, hold it, >and ride it out. It'll all be over in a few seconds. If the bike >isn't scraping the ground, you can lean over further.. If the bike is >scraping the ground and you haven't slid out, hold it and keep going >through the curve. But above all else, newer riders, slow down >tremendously BEFORE the curve, while the bike is still straight and >upright. It's important to drill this information into your mind, so >that when you're in that situation, you don't panic and do the wrong >thing, you say fuck it, get bold, and do the right thing, even tho >it's scary the first few times. > > >On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 19:53:59 -0000, you wrote: > >>Peace, I know Mike White and I called Clinton Cycle, and I was told >>that he lost both legs from above the knees and crushed both arms. >>He is currently in a drug induced coma. My prayers go out to him and >>his family. >> >>Enricqque >> >>--- In dcsportbikeriders@y..., essence wilkins >>wrote: >>> >>> From what I hear he lived he just lost his legs is that true? >>> katanakitten1 wrote: The guy in the accident >>was Mike White the salesman from Clinton >>> Cycles. >>> >>> >>> --- In dcsportbikeriders@y..., Motor PsychoL Danny >> >>> wrote: >>> > was riding last night and about to go through harry S truman 214 >>> exit >>> > with a friend and passengers but I got a flat.. so I pull over.. >>Up >>> > ahead i see a police car.. I figured he pulled someone over... >>> > >>> > come to find out a rider had crashed and I saw he got medivacted >>> away. >>> > This was about 2 am. >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>> dcsportbikeriders-unsubscribe@y... >>> >>> >>> >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 09:59:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79DxTZ4003028; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:59:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79DxRPM003013; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:59:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809135924.530.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 06:59:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Motorcyclist dies on `Dragon' To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <135.127934ce.2a81ca96@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii there's nothin' like a gauze pad and an alcohol swab to treat a collapsed lung and multiple compound fractures! ;) --- PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > In a message dated 8/6/2002 2:08:25 PM Eastern Daylight > Time, > Carl.Custer@XXXXXX writes: > > > ``Unfortunately, our guys arrived too late to do > anything for him,'' Overton > > said. > > Lesson here? > Learn First Aid and CPR and be ready to use it. I keep a > First Aid kit > (including CPR mask) in the tail of my bike. Not a brag, > just pointing out > how small they can be. You just never know when a buddy > will need your help. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 09:59:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79DxjZ4003059; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:59:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79Dxjqi003054; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:59:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: hey racers: advanced riding techniques - weight in the curve - question Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:10:11 -0400 Message-ID: <80j7lukv3k4ru1qtk6nc1v7rum05s1htia@4ax.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g79DxhZ4003037 A friend of mine says he leans forwards in the turn to put as much weight on the front tire as possible "because the racers do" "so they can feel feedback if their sliping or not". I told him he should be sititng back, putting weight on the rear tire, but the racers lean forward for aerodynamics behind the screen.. I seem to recall twist of the wrist saying the weight dispertion should be 50/50... As to share the weight load between both tires so that neither tire is over loaded. I told my friend I dont really need feedback on the front, I just trust my tires and execute correctly and try to be smooth. Plus what are you going to do, feel your front is slipping, then what? come off the gas? change what? you're either going to slap the ground, or get lucking and your tires catch and continue throught he curve. right? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 10:01:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79E1AZ4003552; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:01:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79E1AYi003546; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:01:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Tom Gimer Cc: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Motorcyclist dies on `Dragon' Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:11:36 -0400 Message-ID: References: <135.127934ce.2a81ca96@aol.com> <20020809135924.530.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20020809135924.530.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g79E18Z4003534 maybe they should try mouth to ass recessitation too! lol On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 06:59:24 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >there's nothin' like a gauze pad and an alcohol swab to >treat a collapsed lung and multiple compound fractures! ;) > > > > >--- PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: >> In a message dated 8/6/2002 2:08:25 PM Eastern Daylight >> Time, >> Carl.Custer@XXXXXX writes: >> >> > ``Unfortunately, our guys arrived too late to do >> anything for him,'' Overton >> > said. >> >> Lesson here? >> Learn First Aid and CPR and be ready to use it. I keep a >> First Aid kit >> (including CPR mask) in the tail of my bike. Not a brag, >> just pointing out >> how small they can be. You just never know when a buddy >> will need your help. > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs >http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 10:06:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79E6SZ4003822; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:06:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79E6SK4003815; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:06:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: advanced riding techniques - seat position Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:16:55 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g79E6QZ4003803 what is the ideal position to sit to on the front seat when curve riding? up close to the tank? or further back towards the rear seat? and why? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 10:08:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79E80Z4004131; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:08:00 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79E80jV004126; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:08:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809140757.58324.qmail@web14611.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 07:07:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: Rt. 211 on a Wed Evening? To: jmstrang@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <009901c23efc$3d3c2df0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Jon Strang wrote: > Follow speed limit signs until you hit the twisty parts. actually, this is pretty good advice to follow on ALL of the roads heading out to 211. from marshall, va (where you pick up 647) to washington, va (641 runs through it) there is now a LOT of police/cycle activity > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:31 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Rt. 211 on a Wed Evening? > > > I thinks you would take 66 west to 17s. to Warrenton. > Then take 211 West. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 10:11:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79EBGZ4004433; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:11:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79EBF2c004423; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:11:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:14:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hey racers: advanced riding techniques - weight in the curve - question In-Reply-To: <80j7lukv3k4ru1qtk6nc1v7rum05s1htia@4ax.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:10:11 -0400 > From: Motor PsychoL Danny > > A friend of mine says he leans forwards in the turn to put as much > weight on the front tire as possible "because the racers do" "so they > can feel feedback if their sliping or not". > > I told him he should be sititng back, putting weight on the rear tire, > but the racers lean forward for aerodynamics behind the screen.. Sounds like who ever is asking the question should head out to a track and find a controlled environment to test their theories. I tend to think that anyone riding that close to the edge of the available traction should consider thinking about things like bunnies, dogs, deer, gravel in the corners, and little girls with tennis balls, rather than trying to decide if they need to load the front or rear suspension. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 10:12:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79ECcZ4004709; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:12:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79ECcXu004701; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:12:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809141236.3563.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 07:12:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Aprilia/Femmoto demo day To: jmstrang@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <009a01c23efc$aa0b6770$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Jon Strang wrote: > Hot chicks *and* Aprilias. > > I wouldn't know what to do with myself. Drool or drool? > > I better keep my fat, bald, > acne-laden @ss in the > computer lab that day. dude.... take it easy on yourself! you're not that fat. and your ass can be quickly and easily treated with a power sander. > -----Original Message----- > From: Lori Wilson [mailto:wilsonl@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:01 PM > To: Larry Larson; Lisa Goddard; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Transporting a bike > > > Aprilia USA > and Femmoto are sponsoring a womens demo track day.... > for the super low price of $55 you get to ride Aprilia > USA's Mille, Falco, > and Futura on the south course at VIR > > I am SO there > > I can > not > wait > I leave > in mere > hours > > At 10:14 AM 8/8/02 -0400, Larry Larson wrote: > >At 09:33 AM 8/8/02, Lisa Goddard wrote: > >>I am out on the south course friday with their > >>Aprilia's. > > > >Whose Aprilias, Lisa? Is this an Aprilia-sponsored > event? Inquiring Falco > >owners want to know...8;) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 10:12:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79ECrZ4004744; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:12:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79ECrU8004737; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:12:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:15:32 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Motor PsychoL Danny cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hey racers: advanced riding techniques - weight in the curve - question In-Reply-To: <80j7lukv3k4ru1qtk6nc1v7rum05s1htia@4ax.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm no racer... far from it but... > I seem to recall twist of the wrist saying the weight dispertion > should be 50/50... As to share the weight load between both tires > so that neither tire is over loaded. > It says 40/60 F/R > Plus what are you going to do, feel your front is slipping, then what? > come off the gas? change what? you're either going to slap the > ground, or get lucking and your tires catch and continue throught he > curve. right? > Well if are leaning forward, leaning back could improve your 40/60 balance, however monkeying around in the middle of a turn like that??? Rolling on some more throttle would do the same with less chance of upsetting the bike. If he's at that point of riding maybe he'd better just practice his theory at the track. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 10:17:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79EHsZ4005266; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:17:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79EHs1J005258; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:17:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Jim McGonigle" To: "'Motor PsychoL Danny'" , Subject: RE: advanced riding techniques - seat position Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:17:07 -0400 Organization: BroadSoft Message-ID: <01d601c23faf$74716390$4b01a8c0@jmcgonigle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: On the street it shouldn't matter - you shouldn't be that close to the edge of traction. Personally, I put my weight over the tank. I can always move weight back by just adding more throttle, besides it keeps the front wheel down. I think the ideal weight distribution depends on the bike, but most have max traction at 40/60 F/R. The throttle is what you should use to control the distribution. -Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Motor PsychoL Danny [mailto:motorcycle@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 10:17 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: advanced riding techniques - seat position > > > what is the ideal position to sit to on the front seat when curve > riding? > > up close to the tank? or further back towards the rear seat? > > and why? > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 10:21:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79EL6Z4005535; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:21:06 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79EL53b005531; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:21:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: dan Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hey racers: advanced riding techniques - weight in the curve - question Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:31:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <80j7lukv3k4ru1qtk6nc1v7rum05s1htia@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g79EL4Z4005514 A racer friend of mine said you should stay behind the windscreen when racing, except to slow down and take lower speed curves. ( speaking in the context of being on the track, racing) I just thought i would propose the question to the other racers here. I'm a firm believer in asking those who know and learning... knowing what to do and not do, before you get on a bike... rather than experiementing. Personally I would like to get my race liscense, and run endurance races for fun, track time, and learn to be a better rider. talking others into it isn't as easy. note to self, go to wera website and look up info. >Well if are leaning forward, leaning back could improve your 40/60 >balance, however monkeying around in the middle of a turn like that??? >Rolling on some more throttle would do the same with less chance of >upsetting the bike. If he's at that point of riding maybe he'd better just >practice his theory at the track. > >Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 10:22:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79EMlZ4005790; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:22:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79EMlOh005785; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:22:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809142244.80078.qmail@web12305.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 07:22:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicholas Thompson Subject: new to the list To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey everyone, I'm new to the list and thought I'd drop in and introduce myself. I ride a 93 GSXR 750, been riding for about 3 years and love it!! 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HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 10:23:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79ENxZ4006050; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:23:59 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79ENw1i006044; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:23:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: advanced riding techniques - seat position Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:34:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: <01d601c23faf$74716390$4b01a8c0@jmcgonigle> In-Reply-To: <01d601c23faf$74716390$4b01a8c0@jmcgonigle> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g79ENvZ4006027 >Personally, I put my weight over the tank. I can always move weight >back by just adding more throttle, besides it keeps the front wheel >down. Interesting. I ride a 600, he rides a 1000 aprilla twin. keeping the front wheel down isnt' an issue for me. I would think it would matter about being smooth on the throttle in the curve for bigger bikes anyway. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 10:26:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79EQbZ4006318; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:26:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79EQbrq006314; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:26:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: advanced riding techniques Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:37:04 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g79EQZZ4006302 I had two different topics.. one was how far forward or rearward should one sit in the seat. What is the proper place to sit? and the second was about weight distrobution front to rear tire. How do you tell if you've got the proper 40/60 distrobution tho? and why is it 40 / 60 ? the rear has a bigger contact patch? I told him that's why he should want his weight more so on the back, becasue of a larger contact patch. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 10:27:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79EROZ4006574; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:27:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79ERO5t006568; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:27:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809142721.64333.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 07:27:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Motorcyclist dies on `Dragon' To: Motor PsychoL Danny Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > maybe they should try mouth to ass recessitation too! > lol i think a rimjob would be absolutely inappropriate under such circumstances.... unless, of course, it is undertaken by a certified EMT. > On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 06:59:24 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > > >there's nothin' like a gauze pad and an alcohol swab to > >treat a collapsed lung and multiple compound fractures! > ;) > > > >--- PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > >> In a message dated 8/6/2002 2:08:25 PM Eastern > Daylight > >> Time, > >> Carl.Custer@XXXXXX writes: > >> > >> > ``Unfortunately, our guys arrived too late to do > >> anything for him,'' Overton > >> > said. > >> > >> Lesson here? > >> Learn First Aid and CPR and be ready to use it. I keep > a > >> First Aid kit > >> (including CPR mask) in the tail of my bike. Not a > brag, > >> just pointing out > >> how small they can be. You just never know when a > buddy > >> will need your help. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 10:41:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79EfBZ4006896; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:41:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79EfBsm006892; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:41:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: (fwd) Motorcycle Club When does it stop? Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:51:37 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g79Ef9Z4006880 On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 20:34:52 -0000, "ssiixx_6" wrote: >Got this from another site wile lookig for the accident above... > > >I hate that i have to share this story. Im still pretty fucked in the >head right now. So heres what happened. > >I took a ride with some guys that work at MFI. Bout 10 of us went >riding today. We went all over. Went onto 211, paid the 5 bucks and >rode skyline drive. It was a good ride we stopped every so often, had >lunch at this mexican restaurant, and even stopped at a creek side >and took a dip. I just put my feet in. It was great. An awsome day >with some kewl guys.. > >Well it ended tragicly. Justin, one of the salesman at MFI and >another guy named Travis were involved in the accident. Around 2:30 >today we were well the hell south of 211, even futher south of >winchester. Icant remember the name of the area, like kingstown or >something. > >Travis and justin were in the lead of the group and were much faster >than Iwas able to go through the turns. I catch up to them, and mark, >(owner of MFI) is topped. All i see is Travis, and his bike in this >sewer run off full of rocks. His bike is torn to hell. Well i get >off, and mark is in the corn field next to the curve/hill that these >guys bit it on. Mark is yelling for justin. I throw all my gear off >and run over to Justin who is laying lifeless in this corn field and >i decided to start CPR. I took off his helmet and I thought i had a >pulse. I started helping him breathe. I helped clear his airway and >notice some blood. After giving him air, he gurgles from stuff in his >lungs. I take his pulse again and no pulse. So i do the whole CPR, >and it took the EMT 8min 32sec to get there.. I know this because i >was counting the minutes. > >The EMT's take justin to the hospital and Travis is on the side >refusing to be taken to the hospital. After i tell mark to convince >travis that he has to be checked out. The finally take travis on a >flat board to the same hospital. After talking to the state trooper >we went to Shannendoa Medical center. After waiting 20 minutes, the >nurse gives us the news. Justin Did not make it and Travis is going >to be released soon. After an hour of waiting, travis walks out >limping b/c of a busted up knee. He said he is ok, but im sure he >will be more sore tomorrow. i wont be surprised if he goes back to >the hospital. Travis is one of those stubborn guys that dont want to >be treated unless they're dying. > >Pretty much what happened was they both womped on the gas for a >strait away, and came to hill/curve that justin couldn't make. His >bike cartwheeled through the cornfield and rested on a wire fence, >Justin landed on his neck and the doctor says died instantly. I swore >i had a pulse on him, but coulda been my own pulse that i was >detecting. Travis almost made the turn after seeing justin get >airborn, but didnt and slid through the grass, LITERALLY STRADDLED A >POST, and then spun him into the sewer collection. The sign just >missed his family jules.. > >My head is all fucked up now, and i cant get justins lifeless face >out of my mind. Every time i close my eyes, i see it now. > >Folks may be pissed at me for writing so much detail. But i want it >to be known about this shit. I ride fast sometimes, i try and "rail" >some curves. But god damn it, why the fuck do we press the envelope >sooo far. What the fuck is the point of going into a curve that you >have no idea where the apex ends, and going blazing fast. We dont >ride on tracks. Those fucking racers know every goddamn inch of the >track. Down to the inch for breaking, cornering and accelerating. >Some of us are trying that shit on normal roads. Roads that we have >never seen before!! > >I am soo full of emotions right now, i am about to puke.. Oh done >that 3 times already..... > >My life has been changed today. Many of you will read this post, and >shrug your shoulders and think..It aient me, i know what im doing. >Fuck that, JUSTIN had been riding over 10 years. I been out with >those guys that do the wheelies and fuck around. Its your life and >you take those chances. Im not your mommie, and i wont tell you how >to live it. Just remember these stories, and justin. When you start >it up, REALLY think what you are getting yourself into when you try >and RAIL those roads. > > > >Alex C. >Woodbridge Va >Kawa ZX-6E >__________________ > > > >------------------------ Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 10:43:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79EhhZ4007162; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:43:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79Ehhws007153; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:43:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaf8zqys9J4+wC6Ox1omMeCu2L/iBOvWqi/7FXyaxMwRhJKe1tNbrPxULInIQ6DOn4= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: hey racers: advanced riding techniques - weight in the curve - question Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:44:32 -0400 Message-ID: <006001c23fb3$468e4520$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <80j7lukv3k4ru1qtk6nc1v7rum05s1htia@4ax.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal I'm not a "racer", so take a grain of salt immediately. I have raced dirt bikes a bit, though. If you're not on the ground immediately (which you almost surely will be on a street bike on the street), turn out of the corner (go wide) to get the front end back. Then try make the corner with too much speed and a bad angle at it (ha!). I don't think that you can do this with conscious thought, it has to be a reflex to where you end up finished with the corner going "how the hell am I not bleeding?" Better answer: enter corners on the street with plenty of margin. FWIW, in the sporty-twisties, I ride with my wt. far up forward, enter the corner rather conservatively (brake too much beforehand on purpose), then hammer it once I can see through the corner. I don't think I've ever lost the front end on a street bike without losing the rear first or at the same time...in which case I'm sliding around the corner anyway, hard on the gas. On a dirt bike, it happened all the time...it seems like my auto-reaction was to straighten the bike up then throw it hard over and slam it sideways into the next available berm-like object with the throttle pinned. Not an option on the street. --jon -----Original Message----- From: Motor PsychoL Danny [mailto:motorcycle@XXXXXX] Plus what are you going to do, feel your front is slipping, then what? come off the gas? change what? you're either going to slap the ground, or get lucking and your tires catch and continue throught he curve. right? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 11:06:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79F6CZ4007534; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:06:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79F6A5Z007515; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:06:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666B9E1@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'bhuson@XXXXXX'" Subject: SEE Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:10:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Bill H, boldly huckstered, "See - Search, Evaluate, Execute - the new acronym to replace SIPDE. I like it, SEE relates to look, and SEE fits with the philosophy of KISS - Keep It Simple, Stupid." Good'un Bill. Just to beat an old worn drum. While driving on public roads, make sure the BDCs SEE you. One common error I notice is motorcyclists driving in a cager's blind spot. 99.44% of the time, if BDCs see you, they'll avoid hitting you (After all, bumper scratches and fender dents lessen a cars's value, and those insurance pee-pole are sooo tiresome) Driving in a cagers's blind spot may be the only situation where loud pipes save lives "SEE what can happen out there? And it's nowhere close to a full moon! Keep those eyeballs open, keep them moving - tis a jungle out there. Someone left the door to the nuthouse open!" It's that hot August wind. Similar to the Sirocco? Carl in Bethesda From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 11:15:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79FFiZ4007834; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:15:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79FFisR007828; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:15:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666B9E2@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'rwestbrook@XXXXXX'" Subject: Textile jackets Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:20:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Richard Westbrook reported, "I have been thinking about getting a Textile Jacket (my leather isn't stretching as much as my gut:-) and was wondering of anyone had any recommendations or things to look out for. My only requirements are a liner (preferably fleece), pockets, and enough vents to keep me somewhat cool in DC summers." I'd remove liner as a requirement. I think it'd be a negative. Most liners appear to be crap. Instead, think Polartec 200 sweater or a similar fleece. Then electrics for the really cold days. Way warmer, much more versatile. Carl in Bethesda Commuting into your nation's capital since 1981 through sun, rain, over snow, and around road ragers. '85 VF700S (Rocin-ahorito); '83 VF700F (666); '97 Aerostich Roadcrafter (Fred the Red); '02 JR Phoenix: (Amarillo Joe) http://www.crashmancomics.com/sabmag/rogues/carlcuster.jpg From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 11:29:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79FTXZ4008139; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:29:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79FTWDG008133; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:29:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 9 Aug 2002 15:29:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20020809152931.5216.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: new to the list X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) NT contributed this message: >Hey everyone, I'm new to the list and thought I'd drop >in and introduce myself. I ride a 93 GSXR 750, been >riding for about 3 years and love it!! [Dave] Finally, a message from NT that isn't cryptic and indicative of lost productivity... Bad puns aside, welcome to the list. Be wary of Chuck & Tom trying to get you to ride to Aintree (see the movie Deliverance)... be prepared for some OT banter (politics, guns, tickets, match making, etc...), strong differences of opinions (synth vs. dino oil, chain vs. shaft drive, chain lube vs. chain wax, rear brake usage etc...) and lamenting of BDC's (brain dead cagers)... feel free to jump right in. Dave Yates ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 11:31:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79FVmZ4008413; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:31:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79FVld9008407; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:31:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <01cb01c23fba$92aa5aa0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "'DCCycles'" References: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666B9E1@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> Subject: Re: SEE Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:36:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Another thing to do is to imagine how you appear on the average BDC's addled retina: small, insignificant, and non threatening. That's if they "see" you at all. People are less likely to mess with big things that can hurt them. Good 'un on blind spots. There's also that little sign on 18-wheelers, "if you can't see my mirrors, I can't see you." Different vehicles have different blind spots. Be aware of them and treat it as the "no" zone. And don't take all day to pass other vehicles. Overtake with gusto, give 'em a friendly toot and a wave so they might "see" you, and limit the amount of time you spend in the vulnerable zone. Bottom line, is in the end, there is no fool proof way you can *force* them to "see" you with headlight modulators, vests, Hi-Viz 'Stitches, loud pipes, big honking tooters, whatever. Yes, increase your visibility, but still treat 'em all like they're blind and should be driving with a cane stuck out the window. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F ----- Original Message ----- From: "Custer, Carl" > Bill H, boldly huckstered, "See - Search, Evaluate, Execute - the new > acronym to replace SIPDE. I like it, SEE relates to look, and SEE fits with > the philosophy of KISS - Keep It Simple, Stupid." > > Good'un Bill. > Just to beat an old worn drum. While driving on public roads, make sure the > BDCs SEE you. > One common error I notice is motorcyclists driving in a cager's blind spot. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 12:23:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79GNJZ4009110; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:23:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79GNINd009099; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:23:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809162316.83192.qmail@web14611.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:23:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: new to the list To: sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020809152931.5216.qmail@server445.gisol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > NT contributed this message: > > >Hey everyone, I'm new to the list and thought I'd drop > >in and introduce myself. I ride a 93 GSXR 750, been > >riding for about 3 years and love it!! > > [Dave] Finally, a message from NT that isn't cryptic and > indicative of lost productivity... > > Bad puns aside, welcome to the list. Be wary of Chuck & > Tom trying to get you to ride to Aintree (see the movie > Deliverance)... i think a trip to carolina and the famous springmaid campground would be a better way to break in our newest member.... -- tg w/ky __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 12:30:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79GUPZ4009393; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:30:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79GUPl6009386; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:30:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809163022.66406.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:30:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicholas Thompson Subject: Re: new to the list To: Tom Gimer , sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020809162316.83192.qmail@web14611.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Okay, I'm afraid to ask what this is in Carolina. Perhaps a guy named "Bubba" dressed up as a girl named "Betty"? Nick --- Tom Gimer wrote: > --- sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > > NT contributed this message: > > > > >Hey everyone, I'm new to the list and thought I'd > drop > > >in and introduce myself. I ride a 93 GSXR 750, > been > > >riding for about 3 years and love it!! > > > > [Dave] Finally, a message from NT that isn't > cryptic and > > indicative of lost productivity... > > > > Bad puns aside, welcome to the list. Be wary of > Chuck & > > Tom trying to get you to ride to Aintree (see the > movie > > Deliverance)... > > i think a trip to carolina and the famous springmaid > campground would be a better way to break in our > newest > member.... > > > > -- > tg w/ky > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 12:45:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79GjuZ4009715; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:45:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79GjtOr009707; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:45:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.48.118.251] From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: SPAM...Car still for sale... Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 12:45:47 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2002 16:45:48.0442 (UTC) FILETIME=[36BEF7A0:01C23FC4] Well, I didn't have much luck these past two weeks, so I'm at it again. Now at a lower price. ACURA '01 3.2 CL Type S,a/t, Silver w/Blk Lthr, Garaged, 6 CD,All Power,spoiler,roof, ABS, VSA, Traction control, Dual front/side airbags, 17" Alloys,Dlr.Srvcd,24k miles, $24,500/obo 301-540-7089 Reasons for selling: 1. Still out of work and the bank misses my money. ;) 2. I want to get something else, or just ride full time! Feel free to email me off-list for more info, or send to anyone who might be interested. Thanks. Rob '98 VFR800 _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 12:54:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79GsRZ4010010; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:54:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79GsRSe010005; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:54:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809165424.5679.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:54:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: NOT SPAM!... m/c hauler for sale... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii for anyone in the market for a truck, my ad began running in the post yesterday... the details: '97 toyota tacoma lx; v6; extra cab; 5spd; black w/tan interior; almost 72k miles; trailer hitch; bedliner; tint; cruise control; power locks, windows, brakes, steering; tilt wheel; alloys; a/c; pretty much the works. while it has some cosmetic issues (paint scratches here and there; dent in the bumper; etc.) it is very sound mechanically. i just replaced the battery as well. i'm looking to get $11k for it (and will probably hold out for that price), which is almost 2 grand less than a dealer would charge for it.... -- tg 301 675-3980 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 13:02:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79H2JZ4010333; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:02:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79H2I0f010328; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:02:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <99.2ac02619.2a854f8f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:02:07 EDT Subject: Re: Motorcyclist dies on `Dragon' To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/9/2002 9:59:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, t_gimer@XXXXXX writes: > there's nothin' like a gauze pad and an alcohol swab to > treat a collapsed lung and multiple compound fractures! ;) Gauze pad over a sucking chest wound, good idea! Gauze pressed into a pressure point to stop bleeding, good idea! Bungee chords to secure a branch to the fractured appendage... There is a lot we can do in the field, _if_ we have training. I know if I fall down I would like someone with training there to help. That was my point, having someone in a group that knows CPR first aid is just a good idea, you just never know. Kinda like riding for the crash, carry your own medic! John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 13:03:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79H3AZ4010599; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:03:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79H39S3010592; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:03:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <4120028591743680@earthlink.net> X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 0 X-EM-Registration: #3003520714B31D032830 X-Priority: Reply-To: fastandwily@XXXXXX X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 5.0.6.8 (Windows) From: "Scott Luttrell " To: "Motor PsychoL Danny" , "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: hey racers: advanced riding techniques - weight in the curve - question Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:4:3 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > A friend of mine says he leans forwards in the turn to put as much > weight on the front tire as possible "because the racers do" "so they > can feel feedback if their sliping or not". > I told him he should be sititng back, putting weight on the rear tire, > but the racers lean forward for aerodynamics behind the screen.. > > I seem to recall twist of the wrist saying the weight dispertion > should be 50/50... As to share the weight load between both tires > so that neither tire is over loaded. Seating postion is a riders preference in my option. I tend to race further towards the front of the seat because it is a more comfortable postion with rear set's. Sitting further back would make for a less comfortable postion on my knees. Also the forward riding postion makes for easier transition for left to right without the need to pull on the clip-ons. I set up my suspension pre-load as most racers do, with full riding gear on and in your most used riding postion. So everyone suspension adjustment will be different according to there style of riding as will their seat postion. I'm 5'-9", taller guys might ride further back. There is really no right or wrong. > I told my friend I don't really need feedback on the front, I just > trust my tires and execute correctly and try to be smooth. > Plus what are you going to do, feel your front is slipping, then what? > come off the gas? change what? you're either going to slap the > ground, or get lucking and your tires catch and continue through he > curve. right? Getting off the gas with the front slipping may not always be the best thing to do. I try getting on the gas a lil when I feel the front end slipping, I've pulled out a few tank slappers doing this also. Slowing your throttle is going to transfer weight to the front where you want it entering a turn but, if the front is already slipping in the middle of the turn more weight on the front doesn't always help matters. More throttle input will transfer weight to the rear tire allowing you to regain some front end control will steering more with the rear, flat track it if you have to. Most of my front tire slips are caused by over cooked tires on the track. If your front is slipping under less extreme situation you may need to check tire pressures/condition or think you entry speed an/or line your using next time. It never hurts to have luck on your side and hopefully it will be on the side of your front tire that happens to be slipping. Scott Luttrell Fast & Wily Racing fastandwily@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 13:03:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79H3DZ4010632; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:03:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79H3CoO010628; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:03:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:03:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Maddox To: dc-cycles list Subject: OT: jobs (yes, IT) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey, I know there are a few outta-work technical types here, so if you're looking for 1: production support (Unix sysadmin-type) or 2: programming (C, C++ for user-interface-to-DB stuff) in the Dulles area, ping me off-list. I may be stuck in a cage, but I can contribute something for this list! ObMotoContent: Sturgis made the front page of the NY Times (online, anyway) today. Sounds like it's gotten completely poser-polluted. 8-( -- Andrew Maddox, found at: madsox.net Today's Bartism: I will not sell land in Florida. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 13:18:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79HIAZ4011285; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:18:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79HIA0a011280; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:18:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <7c.2c33409d.2a85534b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:18:03 EDT Subject: Re: hey racers: advanced riding techniques - weight in the curve - question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/9/2002 10:43:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jmstrang@XXXXXX writes: > Plus what are you going to do, feel your front is slipping, then what? > come off the gas? change what? I would think it depends on whether you want it to slip or not. Most pros deliberately slip _both_ tires all the time. I remember reading a report in one of the magazines telling about one of the riders (a world champ at the time) coming up on a slower rider in a curve. Instead of slowing or straitening up and diving down again the rider just deliberately grabbed the front brake, sliding the front end into a different line, and rode around the slower rider. WAY beyond anything I could do. As for "change what?" Why your underwear of course. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 13:24:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79HOaZ4011570; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:24:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79HOYhg011559; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:24:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <185.c62a768.2a8554cd@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:24:29 EDT Subject: Re: SEE To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/9/2002 11:31:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pawilson@XXXXXX writes: > Good 'un on blind spots. There's also that little sign on 18-wheelers, "if > you can't see my mirrors, I can't see you." And beware of the morons who like to ride in _YOUR_ blind spots, They are out there. One of the disadvantages of fairing mounted mirrors is that they tend to be further away from your eyes resulting in less vision to the rear and bigger blind spots on our bikes. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 13:46:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79HkOZ4012152; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:46:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79HkOUk012147; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:46:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809174612.66853.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:46:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Motorcyclist dies on `Dragon' To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <99.2ac02619.2a854f8f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > In a message dated 8/9/2002 9:59:29 AM Eastern Daylight > Time, > t_gimer@XXXXXX writes: > > > there's nothin' like a gauze pad and an alcohol swab to > > treat a collapsed lung and multiple compound > fractures! ;) > > Gauze pad over a sucking chest wound, good idea! Gauze > pressed into a > pressure point to stop bleeding, good idea! Bungee chords > to secure a branch > to the fractured appendage... > There is a lot we can do in the field, _if_ we have > training. I know if I > fall down I would like someone with training there to > help. > That was my point, having someone in a group that knows > CPR first aid is just > a good idea, you just never know. Kinda like riding for > the crash, carry your > own medic! you have a point. i certainly feel more comfortable when the trusty ddd joins us on our rides.... ddd=dillon d. dickson, emt, mofo -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 13:51:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79HpAZ4012470; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:51:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79Hp9IB012464; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:51:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <007401c23fce$09587480$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: References: <185.c62a768.2a8554cd@aol.com> Subject: Re: SEE Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:55:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Yup. Blind spots and mirrors that only say "no," not "yes." That's also why humans come equipped with a rubber neck. FWIW, a lot of riders complain that their mirrors "give me a great view of my elbows and shoulders." Actually, it may seem odd, but that's the way I like it. The one place I *can't* see with a quick head check is directly behind me, so with the mirrors taking in my elbows, that position works for me. Every where else gets the rubber neck treatment. Paul in DC 95 VFR with those pesky fairing mounted mirrors ----- Original Message ----- From: > In a message dated 8/9/2002 11:31:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > pawilson@XXXXXX writes: > > > Good 'un on blind spots. There's also that little sign on 18-wheelers, "if > > you can't see my mirrors, I can't see you." > > And beware of the morons who like to ride in _YOUR_ blind spots, They are out > there. One of the disadvantages of fairing mounted mirrors is that they tend > to be further away from your eyes resulting in less vision to the rear and > bigger blind spots on our bikes. > > John. > PenguinBiker@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 13:55:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79Ht4Z4012779; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:55:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79Ht4IX012774; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:55:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809175502.12797.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:55:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: SEE To: Paul Wilson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <007401c23fce$09587480$bb82fea9@palladio1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii while we're on the subject.... i HIGHLY recommend the following: http://www.constructorsrg.com/store/page2.html --- Paul Wilson wrote: > Yup. Blind spots and mirrors that only say "no," not > "yes." That's also > why humans come equipped with a rubber neck. > > FWIW, a lot of riders complain that their mirrors "give > me a great view of > my elbows and shoulders." Actually, it may seem odd, but > that's the way I > like it. The one place I *can't* see with a quick head > check is directly > behind me, so with the mirrors taking in my elbows, that > position works for > me. Every where else gets the rubber neck treatment. > > Paul in DC > 95 VFR with those pesky fairing mounted mirrors __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 14:48:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79ImtZ4013396; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:48:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79Imr6d013380; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:48:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809184851.76648.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:48:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: SEE To: Tom Gimer , Paul Wilson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020809175502.12797.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii . . . and at $79.50 each, a pair of those would double the value of my bike. Leon. --- Tom Gimer wrote: > while we're on the subject.... i HIGHLY recommend > the > following: > > http://www.constructorsrg.com/store/page2.html > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 14:53:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79IrcZ4013654; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:53:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79IrcZt013649; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:53:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809185334.31361.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 11:53:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: SEE To: Leon Begeman , Paul Wilson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020809184851.76648.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii wait until they become more popular. they can be removed quite quickly and easily (10 sec.; 4mm key). ;) btw, i'll happily take either bike off your hands for $160. oh, please be sure to leave the fuel cell assembly intact.... i'll swing by this evening with the truck. --- Leon Begeman wrote: > . . . and at $79.50 each, a pair of those would > double the value of my bike. > > Leon. > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > while we're on the subject.... i HIGHLY recommend > > the > > following: > > > > http://www.constructorsrg.com/store/page2.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 15:12:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79JCEZ4014036; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:12:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79JCD7O014028; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:12:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D541558.D3604BA4@patriot.net> Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 15:17:44 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: 4 Sale: 1998 Harley Dyna FXD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit darkish blue (don't know the Official Motor Company color name), 31,311 miles, good rubber, speedo/tach, sissy bar, saddlebags and mounts, tools bags, clip-on windscreen. All service done at the Harley dealer including those pesky oil changes. Stock pipes, stock carb, Charlie just rode the thang, RT to California - twice! Charlie is asking 10,500. I rode it from So MD to Annandale today, runs fine & dandy. Bike will be shown at my house in Annandale VA. Bill Huson ho (703) 256-3115 mobile w/voice mail (703) 624-9648 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 15:30:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79JU4Z4014423; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:30:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79JU4Ht014417; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:30:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <005d01c23fdb$d9f205e0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: References: <20020809184851.76648.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: SEE Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:33:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 You can get the same effect, albeit not quite as trick, for about $20-25 for the pair at your local bicycle shop. No guarantee of accumulating the same farkle points, though :) I think I'll just turn my head. It's free and I need the exercise. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leon Begeman" > . . . and at $79.50 each, a pair of those would > double the value of my bike. > > Leon. > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > while we're on the subject.... i HIGHLY recommend > > the > > following: > > > > http://www.constructorsrg.com/store/page2.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 15:33:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79JXIZ4014741; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:33:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79JXHMa014735; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:33:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <006f01c23fdc$4c65f320$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Tom Gimer" , "Leon Begeman" , References: <20020809185334.31361.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: SEE Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:37:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Um, factor of two error. Make it $320 if it doubles the value. Were you on the Enron account at Arthur Andersen? ;) Paul in DC 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Gimer" > > btw, i'll happily take either bike off your hands for $160. > oh, please be sure to leave the fuel cell assembly > intact.... i'll swing by this evening with the truck. > > > > > --- Leon Begeman wrote: > > . . . and at $79.50 each, a pair of those would > > double the value of my bike. > > > > Leon. > > > > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > > while we're on the subject.... i HIGHLY recommend > > > the > > > following: > > > > > > http://www.constructorsrg.com/store/page2.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 15:33:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79JXLZ4014778; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:33:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79JXKov014771; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:33:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD511F47A@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: SEE Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:34:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Can they take the winds generated at the speeds motorcycles are capable of??? -----Original Message----- From: Paul Wilson [mailto:pawilson@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 3:33 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: SEE You can get the same effect, albeit not quite as trick, for about $20-25 for the pair at your local bicycle shop. No guarantee of accumulating the same farkle points, though :) I think I'll just turn my head. It's free and I need the exercise. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leon Begeman" > . . . and at $79.50 each, a pair of those would > double the value of my bike. > > Leon. > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > while we're on the subject.... i HIGHLY recommend > > the > > following: > > > > http://www.constructorsrg.com/store/page2.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 15:46:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79JkmZ4015310; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:46:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79Jkmrr015306; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:46:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: fastandwily@XXXXXX Cc: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: hey racers: advanced riding techniques - weight in the curve - question Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 15:57:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4120028591743680@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <4120028591743680@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g79JkkZ4015294 We dont' actually slide our tires out there (with a few exceptions) I can't remember ever solely sliding my front tire (maybe i have i dunno) that's not really an issue, that was just him for some reason he leans forward for that reason. So the debate wsa aobut the reason racers lean forward. he says for front end feel, i said for aerodynamics. but anyway, yea I hit the brakes before a curve, and am back off the brakes before the curve.. so I can go into the curve smoothly rolling on the gas.. as well as do my shifting while still upright.. that's assuming i'm speeding up to the curve. I try to do all my riding pretty much textbook. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 15:48:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79Jm3Z4015574; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:48:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79Jm36V015567; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:48:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809194800.33205.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:48:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: SEE To: Paul Wilson , Leon Begeman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <006f01c23fdc$4c65f320$bb82fea9@palladio1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Paul Wilson wrote: > Um, factor of two error. Make it $320 if it doubles the > value. Were you on > the Enron account at Arthur Andersen? ;) but he didn't install the items; and, hence, the value hasn't doubled. regardless, because i'm such a good sport, i'll happily take either bike off leon's hands for $320. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Gimer" > > > > > btw, i'll happily take either bike off your hands for > $160. > > oh, please be sure to leave the fuel cell assembly > > intact.... i'll swing by this evening with the truck. > > > > > > --- Leon Begeman wrote: > > > . . . and at $79.50 each, a pair of those would > > > double the value of my bike. > > > > > > Leon. > > > > > > > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > > > while we're on the subject.... i HIGHLY recommend > > > > the > > > > following: > > > > > > > > http://www.constructorsrg.com/store/page2.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 15:53:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79JrWZ4015909; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:53:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79JrVE7015890; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:53:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "Paul Wilson" Cc: Subject: Re: SEE Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 16:03:57 -0400 Message-ID: References: <185.c62a768.2a8554cd@aol.com> <007401c23fce$09587480$bb82fea9@palladio1> In-Reply-To: <007401c23fce$09587480$bb82fea9@palladio1> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g79JrUZ4015878 And you can always move your elbows to see what's back there.... or use your elbows to block out the blinding high beam of a rookie rider behind you at night. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 15:54:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79JsdZ4016156; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:54:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79Jsd9g016151; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:54:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020809155327.030df550@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rmeyer9@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 15:54:18 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Randy Refrow passed away. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed See the entry for today. >Check out: > >http://www.amasuperbike.com/newind.htm and look at 08.07.02 > > >Howard J. 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 16:52:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g79KqsZ4017048; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 16:52:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g79Kqsc4017041; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 16:52:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020809205253.94714.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:52:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: SEE To: Paul Wilson , Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <006f01c23fdc$4c65f320$bb82fea9@palladio1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think Gimer's math is correct, but I like Paul's offer better. However, I don't sell used bikes, I buy them. How much would you offer for the fuel cell? I no longer use it. Leon. --- Paul Wilson wrote: > Um, factor of two error. Make it $320 if it doubles > the value. Were you on > the Enron account at Arthur Andersen? ;) > > > Paul in DC > 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Gimer" > > > > > > btw, i'll happily take either bike off your hands > for $160. > > oh, please be sure to leave the fuel cell > assembly > > intact.... i'll swing by this evening with the > truck. > > > > > > > > > > --- Leon Begeman wrote: > > > . . . and at $79.50 each, a pair of those would > > > double the value of my bike. > > > > > > Leon. > > > > > > > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > > > while we're on the subject.... i HIGHLY > recommend > > > > the > > > > following: > > > > > > > > http://www.constructorsrg.com/store/page2.html > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 20:14:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7A0E1Z4019237; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 20:14:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7A0E0Bu019228; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 20:14:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <001001c24002$68ca5d00$d63b2c42@c9rnf01> From: "Todd Peer" To: "AA DC Cycles" Subject: Re: New to the List Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 20:11:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 And don't ferget yer weddin' gift (road kill'll do) and sprite bottle full-o-shine! T ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Tom Gimer --- sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > NT contributed this message: > Bad puns aside, welcome to the list. Be wary of Chuck & > Tom trying to get you to ride to Aintree (see the movie > Deliverance)... i think a trip to carolina and the famous springmaid campground would be a better way to break in our newest member.... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Aug 9 20:53:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7A0rwZ4019670; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 20:53:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7A0rvLb019666; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 20:53:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020809204956.00a289d0@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 20:50:38 -0400 To: sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: new to the list In-Reply-To: <20020809152931.5216.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:29 AM 8/9/02, sdave@XXXXXX wrote: >....chain lube vs. chain wax, What kind of bikini wax do you guys use on your bikini fairings? -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 10 07:44:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7ABiaUa004294; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 07:44:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7ABiU9p004278; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 07:44:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.49.179.96] From: "Tim Spong" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Topic of Pickups Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:43:22 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Aug 2002 11:43:22.0704 (UTC) FILETIME=[2174D500:01C24063] I am not sure of the origins of this topic, as I am on digest mode. However I am a bit of an authority on this subject. The most toneful pickups you can get for a fender are: 1. Lindy Frailen pickups http://www.fralinpickups.com/ 2. Bill Lawrence pickups http://www.billlawrence.com/ 3. Fender custom shop pickups 4. There are also some tele pickups called velvet hammers that are supposed to be very nice, however, I haven't heard them myself. The above will blow your socks off. They will make your guitar "sing". Joe bardens are pretty good if you are looking for a more "humbucker" sound to your fender. Seymor Duncans are okay, but the above are far better. Lace sensors are very mediocre _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 10 09:08:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7AD8AUa005029; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:08:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7AD89W8005020; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:08:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: "Tim Spong" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Topic of Pickups Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:05:54 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0208100905541T.01208@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Saturday 10 August 2002 07:43, Tim Spong wrote: > I am not sure of the origins of this topic, as I am on digest mode. > However I am a bit of an authority on this subject. The most toneful > pickups you can get for a fender are: > > 1. Lindy Frailen pickups http://www.fralinpickups.com/ > 2. Bill Lawrence pickups http://www.billlawrence.com/ > 3. Fender custom shop pickups > 4. There are also some tele pickups called velvet hammers that are supposed > to be very nice, however, I haven't heard them myself. > Really? I haven't had to change the pickups in my tele yet but I'm not full time practicing either. The poor thing has been sitting in a corner because of home repairs and riding. OBDCC: My wife has her first bike. 1981 Yamaha 250 Exiter. It needs a bit of a tune up and some tightening here and there but it'll pass inspection and she won't be able to get on the highway. I got to wear my "special occasion" t-shirt today: "If you can read this, she's on her own bike" Carl -- Carl Schelin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 10 09:25:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7ADPrUa005353; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:25:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7ADPqK0005345; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:25:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.65.63.200] From: "Razz Man" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: DMV Skills test Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:25:45 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Aug 2002 13:25:45.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[6EBF7B40:01C24071] I have had to retake all my driving tests because, like an idiot, I let my license expire. Now to the point. I went to DMV in Stafford (1.5 miles from home) yesterday with my softail. The Harley "Dresser" before me failed at the cones all 3 times. The cones are spaced at just a little over the Harleys wheel base which make it next to impossible to do. OK my turn. It wasn't easy on a big ol Harley but I get past the cones as I'm a very good slow speed rider (I get a lot of practice in the 19 years of rush hour traffic). After the cones, you need to do a slow u-turn within the prescribed lines. Touched 3 times there in 3 attempts. FAILED!! How embarrassing. I demonstrated to the lady that it was impossible due to the turning radius of my bike. I walked the bike through it with the handle bars as far as they would go and showed her the impossibility. True to my expectations, she could care less. I went back this morning with my ZX9R. I decided to run the course before entering what appeared to be a 3 hour wait inside. Cones were much easier, but in 10 attempts...no way in hell to get the u-turn! Now before you tell me to practice, remember I always practice and I've passed these tests a few times before on a 78 ZK650 with a full fairing, and am quite good at slow maneuvers. I don't remember even once that the u-turn portion of the test WASN'T a piece of cake. So my question....I need feedback on the other VA DMV locations and the skills test they provide. All opinions are appreciated. Thanks, Razz 02 FXSTI 99 ZX9R For sale $6000 89 LTD454 86 LTD454 Check out the "Conflicted Interest" web site! www.conflictedinterest.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 10 09:52:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7ADqXUa005843; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:52:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7ADqXGP005838; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:52:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D551BF0.E5448F91@patriot.net> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:58:08 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Razz Man CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DMV Skills test References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Far as I know, the DMV test course is standardized, and yes, not designed for an easy pass with large bikes or sportbikes, which have limited lock-to-lock handlebar turn. I say an easy pass because I'd bet a trained moto-cop could wheel his/her Hawg thru it. I'm not sure what the stright-up turning radius of my Hawg is, but I'm thinking counterwieghted and leaned way the hell over it would turn in less radius than the SU would indicate. Just for giggles I try doing a figure eight inside the MSF course 20' wide U-turn box with my FLH bagger. Got the leftie down, working on the rightie. Solution, borrow a bike. I used a Yamaha 750 Virago, easy pass. Bill Razz Man wrote: > I have had to retake all my driving tests because, like an idiot, I let my > license expire. Now to the point. I went to DMV in Stafford (1.5 miles from > home) yesterday with my softail. The Harley "Dresser" before me failed at > the cones all 3 times. The cones are spaced at just a little over the > Harleys wheel base which make it next to impossible to do. > OK my turn. It wasn't easy on a big ol Harley but I get past the cones as > I'm a very good slow speed rider (I get a lot of practice in the 19 years of > rush hour traffic). After the cones, you need to do a slow u-turn within the > prescribed lines. Touched 3 times there in 3 attempts. FAILED!! How > embarrassing. I demonstrated to the lady that it was impossible due to the > turning radius of my bike. I walked the bike through it with the handle bars > as far as they would go and showed her the impossibility. True to my > expectations, she could care less. > I went back this morning with my ZX9R. I decided to run the course before > entering what appeared to be a 3 hour wait inside. Cones were much easier, > but in 10 attempts...no way in hell to get the u-turn! > Now before you tell me to practice, remember I always practice and I've > passed these tests a few times before on a 78 ZK650 with a full fairing, and > am quite good at slow maneuvers. I don't remember even once that the u-turn > portion of the test WASN'T a piece of cake. So my question....I need > feedback on the other VA DMV locations and the skills test they provide. All > opinions are appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Razz > 02 FXSTI > 99 ZX9R For sale $6000 > 89 LTD454 > 86 LTD454 > > Check out the "Conflicted Interest" web site! > www.conflictedinterest.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 10 11:26:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7AFQeb7015468; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:26:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7AFQdjc015459; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:26:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00d401c24082$52023e00$88804e0c@dz7wc01> From: "Mobacc \(now @ATT\)" To: Subject: Re: See Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:26:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 You betcha those blindspotters pervaid. Being surprised got so tiresome I mounted an extra set of mirrors (Trak) to catch those abeam'rs nestled in front of my normal mirror scan (mostly in slab riding, of course). Double use: For awareness of what's around in cruising mode, and at least a last check after a scan, signal, and headcheck. Two times in the past couple of years that final abeam-mirror check has caught killer traffic sliding in from other lanes at the last second. Bill S./DC '99 VN750 > Wipe my mirrors: I sweat after close calls Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX In a message dated 8/9/2002 11:31:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pawilson@XXXXXX writes: > Good 'un on blind spots. There's also that little sign on 18-wheelers, "if > you can't see my mirrors, I can't see you." And beware of the morons who like to ride in _YOUR_ blind spots, They are out there. One of the disadvantages of fairing mounted mirrors is that they tend to be further away from your eyes resulting in less vision to the rear and bigger blind spots on our bikes. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 10 11:57:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7AFvbb7016081; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:57:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7AFvahE016076; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:57:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00da01c24086$a9f694e0$88804e0c@dz7wc01> From: "Mobacc \(now @ATT\)" To: Subject: Re: SEE Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 11:57:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Here's an embellishment on the ensuing blindspot hardware discussions (cruiser configuration). My mirrors* are mounted just underneath the factories on their stems using tiny shiny hose clamps. There is a small safety-wire modification (delicately disguised) on each to keep their ball/socket attached should they be jarred in normal cockpit movement. Top speed wind has never been a problem. Various tries with bicycle-type mirrors were unsuccessful for lots of reasons. * at Trak Auto: Rally Child Full-View Mirror No. 3526. Cost - each around $5 IIRC. Sometimes out-of-stock at local stores (lost a few prior-wire). Happy to help anyone with this offlist. Bill S./DC '99VN750 > Want to be seen, heard, but not felt. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 10 12:50:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7AGo8b7016762; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 12:50:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7AGo8QY016754; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 12:50:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020810165005.80835.qmail@web21403.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 09:50:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: DMV Skills test To: "William J. Huson" , Razz Man Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3D551BF0.E5448F91@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii When I took the VA DMV test last year, the slalom had two different sets of cones: one for 500cc and under, one for over 500cc. In both cases, the cones were offset the wrong way, to make the slalom more difficult than if the cones were in a straight line (crude, hand-drawn explanation of what I mean is at http://www.xhost.org/images/slalom.gif). I could not complete this slalom on a GS-500e, but the examiner passed me anyway (no sweat on the u-turns, stops and swerves, etc.) Afterward, I went back to the course and played around, and even showed the examiner that in order to *walk* the slalom succesfully with the bike, I had to have it at full lock for every cone. Just what does that kind of 1/2 mph crap have to do with the street? Are they aditioning for circus stunts, or testing for safe drivers? -- Larry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 10 14:10:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7AIAHb7017517; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:10:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7AIAG9D017498; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:10:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020810140946.01d8dc00@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:10:06 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: DMV Skills Test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed t 09:50 AM 8/10/2002 -0700, Larry Larson wrote: >When I took the VA DMV test last year, the slalom had >two different sets of cones: one for 500cc and under, >one for over 500cc. In both cases, the cones were >offset the wrong way, to make the slalom more >difficult than if the cones were in a straight line >(crude, hand-drawn explanation of what I mean is at >http://www.xhost.org/images/slalom.gif). I could not >complete this slalom on a GS-500e, but the examiner >passed me anyway (no sweat on the u-turns, stops and >swerves, etc.) Afterward, I went back to the course >and played around, and even showed the examiner that >in order to *walk* the slalom succesfully with the >bike, I had to have it at full lock for every cone. > >Just what does that kind of 1/2 mph crap have to do >with the street? Are they aditioning for circus >stunts, or testing for safe drivers? > >-- Larry from the VA DMV site: (ref: http://www.dmv.state.va.us/webdoc/citizen/drivers/renewing.asp ) "If your license has expired for more than one year, you must re-take all tests (vision screening, two-part knowledge exam, and road skills test)." So, that means, if your license hasn't lapsed for more than one year, you don't need to take the road skills test again. I don't know how long your license had lapsed but if it's less than one year, you have a valid argument not to have to take the road skills test again. cheers, -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 10 17:51:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7ALplb7018851; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 17:51:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7ALpk3K018841; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 17:51:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020810215143.11669.qmail@web21403.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:51:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: DMV Skills Test To: Aki Damme , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020810140946.01d8dc00@pop.east.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > So, that means, if your license hasn't lapsed for > more than one year, you > don't need to take the road > skills test again. I don't know how long your > license had lapsed but if > it's less than one year, you have > a valid argument not to have to take the road skills > test again. Aki, I've had a motorcycle license continuously since 1964. I elected to take the VA tests to get a moto endorsement on that license (forgot to ask for it when I moved to VA in 1989) rather than give up a license from another state. I have no problem with that. My problem is that I don't think the VA riding test, like written wuestions such as how much the fine is for a given violation, contribute *anything* toward producing qualified and safe drivers. Regards, Larry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 10 18:19:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7AMJob7019326; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 18:19:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7AMJo8W019322; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 18:19:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D5592D6.B85119C7@patriot.net> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 18:25:26 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Larry Larson CC: Aki Damme , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DMV Skills Test References: <20020810215143.11669.qmail@web21403.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Larry Larson wrote: > My problem is that I don't think the VA riding test, > like written wuestions such as how much the fine is > for a given violation, contribute *anything* toward > producing qualified and safe drivers. > And the cage driving test does? Haven't taken one of those since before 8-track tapes, but I clearly recall parallel parking and a trip around the block. Before the m/c skills test, which does test one's ability to manuvour the bike, the m/c test was a loop around the block or parking lot with at least one shift and of course - a stop, but not a quick stop. I don't believe the tests are designed to insure qualified safe drivers/riders. What they do is test one for a minimal operational familiarity with the vehicle, nothing more. Even a 3 month long goverment funded Boot Camp in Boston for new drivers wouldn't insure that they'd be safer on the highway, just those that paid attention. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Aug 10 19:26:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7ANQ90r020424; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:26:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7ANQ8YA020415; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:26:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Sent: 10 Aug 2002 23:26:00 GMT Message-ID: <009b01c240c7$31a10160$6401a8c0@dccracing.org> From: "Laura Granato" To: , "Jennifer Wolny" , "dean s smith" , "Chris Parsons" , Subject: Stuff for sale--some moto, some not Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:39:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Hey all...been doing some cleaning this weekend and found some stuff that is going to get sold...thought I would post here first. moto stuff 1. Dowco motorcycle cover. G-50 sport custom. Black and grey. Used for one season. $45.00 obo 2. Brosh XS summer jacket. Grey and black...lightweight w/ kevlar. Used one season. $35.00 non-moto stuff: 1. Cherry Entertainment Center $150; Have had for only three months...brand new! Selling because of Bri and I moving in together and needing room for other stuff. :) http://www.sauder.com/productpage.asp?ProdNumber=2773&From=Entertainment&Sub =Entertainment%5FCenters 2. Two Beautiful bookcases with glass doors. One has glass doors on top with four drawers underneath. Other has glass doors on top with CD/VCR storage and shelves underneath. Will send pictures if interested. Originally $2000 for pair...will sell for $500. 3. Bedroom set. Very manly bedroom set :) Consists of: - One queen sized bed frame, black iron - Single sized dresser (3 drawer) - double sized side-by-side dresser (long, 3 drawers on each side) - one night stand (2 drawer) We still need to take pictures of this, but if interested, let us know. Will negotiate price with those interested. 4. Dining room set, modern, oak with 8' glass table top. Four chairs. Need to take pictures...will get pictures if interested. Will negotiate price with those interested. Laura & Brian From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Aug 11 11:29:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7BFTQHR017483; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 11:29:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7BFTNP2017470; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 11:29:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <002901c2414c$8a5bb0e0$0500a8c0@ELECTRAGLIDE> From: "Kathleen Loerich" To: Subject: Free motorcycle parking in Annapolis Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 11:34:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I am forwarding this message that I received recently regarding FREE motorcycle parking in Annapolis. I thought some of the listers might be interested in this information. Kathleen >Local residents may be aware of the flap that was started a couple weeks >ago by a downtown Annapolis merchant's complaints about motorcyclists >parking in front of his store. I'm aware that at least one other nearby >merchant who appreciated the business from bikers was calling for a >protest run. > >Well, I think we can turn that planned protest run into a run of >appreciation. Yesterday when I went to downtown Annapolis for brunch, I >found that the city had taken about a dozen parking spaces, right in >front of the Harbormaster's Building at the City Dock, and converted them >to FREE (on Saturdays & Sundays at least) parking for MOTORCYCLES ONLY!! > >This is killer real estate, folks -- convenient to all the bars and >restaurants, not on some side street where vandalism or theft is as big a >concern -- right in view of all the tourists and boaters, so bikers can >show off their scoots. And as long as the city doesn't enforce their "2 >bikes max per space" limit (and why should they, if it's free?), we could >easily fit 36 or more bikes there. > >One thing we need to do is to GET THE WORD OUT!! Currently there aren't >any signs around the downtown area directing bikers towards these spaces. >When I got there I saw only one bike parked, but there were about a dozen >other bikes parked elsewhere around the dock area. If we don't use these >spaces, the city might consider its efforts wasted and take 'em back. > >Considering that I don't know of any other town in Maryland that offers >FREE weekend parking for motorcycles, I think it's deserved. If we do >this right, maybe some other towns will follow their example. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Aug 11 13:58:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7BHwkHR018437; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 13:58:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7BHwkVU018429; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 13:58:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 13:58:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Maddox To: dc-cycles list Subject: OT... way OT! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII But this seems like a pretty diverse group, and for various reasons, I'm at that "oh, what the hell" point. So I'll put this out in a much more public forum than I normally would: I'm looking for martial arts training partners. Not a teacher, not students. Just people to train with. And who knows, there might be some here... The problem is, with my schedule and other committments, I can't afford much travel time (or I'd still work with the last club I belonged to). So, I need to talk people into meeting me near my house (Gaithersburg) some evenings, or near work (Bethesda) earlier. Early mornings (yeah, I know) on weekends are possible pretty much anywhere in that corridor. I do mostly Filipino and Indonesian "stuff", but wouldn't mind trading some of that for, oh, any of a number of Chinese styles, etc., etc. More details on request, let's take it off-list if there's any reply. Thanks! afm -- Andrew Maddox, found at: madsox@XXXXXX Today's Bartism: This punishment is not boring and pointless From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Aug 11 14:48:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7BIm1HR018944; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 14:48:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7BIm00g018937; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 14:48:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [24.49.47.130] From: "Randy Moran" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Paging Han Park Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 14:46:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Aug 2002 18:46:54.0045 (UTC) FILETIME=[763580D0:01C24167] Hey Han, give me a call. (703) 327-6348. RPM _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Aug 11 18:27:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7BMRsHR020063; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 18:27:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7BMRrsU020055; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 18:27:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020811183119.009ef1c0@mail.mac.com> X-Sender: eternity23@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 18:36:54 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: hey racers: advanced riding techniques - weight in the curve - question In-Reply-To: <80j7lukv3k4ru1qtk6nc1v7rum05s1htia@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed If you're riding on the street, your body positioning doesn't really make a rats ass; do whatever you find to be the most comfortable. If you're going so fast that you feel you need to learn better body positioning technique to avoid losing traction you need to do one of two things: A. Slow down AND/OR B. Start racing or attending track days. It's that simple. As far as the 40/60 weight distribution ratio, I have no idea where the hell you got that. That's WAY off base. I don't have my setup sheets in front of me, but my FZR400 racebike is closer to 50/50. I'm thinking it was 47/53, or something like that. I can't remember, but I think there was more weight on the front end than on the rear. And if you really must know, when you're "in a curve", your butt should be OFF of the seat. Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Aug 11 21:30:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7C1UHHR021478; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 21:30:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7C1UGCL021465; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 21:30:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <011301c2419f$cc7c5120$88804e0c@dz7wc01> From: "Mobacc \(now @ATT\)" To: Subject: Re: Free motorcycle parking in Annapolis -- Morning's Action Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 21:30:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I've found civic actions to be feast or famine and this morning the table was full. With no advance inkling about events, I pulled into Annapolis about 10a, headed for brunch parking on Dock St., and was confronted with a "Wild One"scene. Bikes all over the lot in front of Ego Alley, etc., ONE TO A SPACE. Probably 50-75 bikes and several police cars around. Surreal. And I hadn't had coffee. Well, 25 yards into the lot a biker-looking fellow points to an empty spot and says "Park in there." Not ready to offer up my bike to the gods I inquired about activities. It turned out to be a (seemingly well-organized) protest against laws restricting parking spaces to max 2 motorcycles (such knowledge making the day -- I'd thought A... was single-bike parking). So I went along with it and parked (without further surprises). Also signed a petition, since I've been anointed with a ticket or two there. There are apparently a lot of ins and outs to the situation which are initially addressed on a small flyer handed out (without mention of a sponsoring group). The action call -- "Contact our local representatives and let them know! Tell them that you support raising the number of bikes per spot! Makes more room for all!" The Mayor and Aldermans (Alderpersons? Aldermen?) were listed, along with what seems to be the A.. city phone no. 410 263 7997 and website http://www.ci.annapolis.md.us/citizens/council/contact.html. The flyer also thanked the Police Dept. (correctly directed gratitude?) for the new motorcycle spaces (below). During the 1-1/2 hours I was there the demo looked sanctioned and peaceful. Police and bikers were chatting and normal summer ambience prevailed. So, timing seems propitious for those so inclined to contact A.. city government and let them know their thoughts about further solutions to A.. MC parking. The new spaces seem an already large welcome step. Bill S./DC '99VN750 > Harleys, Harleys everywhere. Extra layer of sunglasses required. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. -------------- Kathleen KathleenLoerich@XXXXXX wrote: I am forwarding this message that I received recently regarding FREE motorcycle parking in Annapolis. I thought some of the listers might be interested in this information. Kathleen >Local residents may be aware of the flap that was started a couple weeks >ago by a downtown Annapolis merchant's complaints about motorcyclists >parking in front of his store. I'm aware that at least one other nearby >merchant who appreciated the business from bikers was calling for a >protest run. > >Well, I think we can turn that planned protest run into a run of >appreciation. Yesterday when I went to downtown Annapolis for brunch, I >found that the city had taken about a dozen parking spaces, right in >front of the Harbormaster's Building at the City Dock, and converted them >to FREE (on Saturdays & Sundays at least) parking for MOTORCYCLES ONLY!! > >This is killer real estate, folks -- convenient to all the bars and >restaurants, not on some side street where vandalism or theft is as big a >concern -- right in view of all the tourists and boaters, so bikers can >show off their scoots. And as long as the city doesn't enforce their "2 >bikes max per space" limit (and why should they, if it's free?), we could >easily fit 36 or more bikes there. > >One thing we need to do is to GET THE WORD OUT!! Currently there aren't >any signs around the downtown area directing bikers towards these spaces. >When I got there I saw only one bike parked, but there were about a dozen >other bikes parked elsewhere around the dock area. If we don't use these >spaces, the city might consider its efforts wasted and take 'em back. > >Considering that I don't know of any other town in Maryland that offers >FREE weekend parking for motorcycles, I think it's deserved. If we do >this right, maybe some other towns will follow their example. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 08:09:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CC9nHR024992; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:09:49 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CC9hVp024973; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:09:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020812120920.25155.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 05:09:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: SEE To: Leon Begeman , Paul Wilson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020809184851.76648.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i actually only use ONE (mounted left-side). and, i'd pay much more if i had to for improved vision.... --- Leon Begeman wrote: > . . . and at $79.50 each, a pair of those would > double the value of my bike. > > Leon. > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > while we're on the subject.... i HIGHLY recommend > > the > > following: > > > > http://www.constructorsrg.com/store/page2.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 08:16:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CCGYHR025277; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:16:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CCGX4w025271; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:16:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D57A86D.B479BBC3@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:22:05 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: link request... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My dog slow connection makes web surfing painful, so in the hope that y`all have bookmarks on call, I'm apealing to y`all for links to motorcycle boneyards AKA recyclers. Harley parts of course. What I'm looking for is an intact but not neccessarily perfect Road Glide fairing. I can fix fiberglass, so cracks and scuffs are no problem. The RG fairing is the only frame mounted one Harley makes, and it will bolt on my FLHS. Yes, clipon windscreens sucketh royally, too much buffeting when the wind blows. My plan, bolt on the RG fairing and smooth out the ride! If you have links to boneyards, please send them to me. I've found a few but no luck finding fairings. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 08:19:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CCJnHR025545; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:19:49 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CCJnPL025541; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:19:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.20020812082114.0162014c@noid.org> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:21:45 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Bar end mirrors (was SEE) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:09 AM 8/12/02 -0700, you wrote: > > > > http://www.constructorsrg.com/store/page2.html > >i actually only use ONE (mounted left-side). and, i'd pay >much more if i had to for improved vision.... Do they mount to the tip of the bar ends or would those of us with bar end weights have to make a sort of custom mount? -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 08:26:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CCQPHR025850; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:26:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CCQPQV025844; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:26:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.20020812082750.0253e89c@noid.org> X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:28:22 -0400 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: link request... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:22 AM 8/12/02 -0400, William J. Huson wrote: >If you have links to boneyards, please send them to me. I've found a >few but no luck finding fairings. > >Bill I did a quick search on google looking for 'harley used parts salvage' and came up with a few decent hits. http://www.mscycle.com/usedparts/harleyparts.html http://www.jackscyclesalvage.com/ http://www.motosalvagedirectory.com/maryland.html -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 08:48:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CCmLHR026205; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:48:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CCmLYx026201; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:48:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926C3@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: threw my chain Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:48:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" For some reason i have chain issues! I threw it this morning on my way home. I then walked it about 1/2 mile home. Can i put that chain back on? Can it be done w/o undoing the lock? How hard is it to do? Anything to look out for? I'd be using a Haynes manual. If anyone wants to come to McLean tonight to help me, i'd be more than happy to have company. Thanks. Rich '94 Seca II From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 08:49:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CCnlHR026472; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:49:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CCnk5d026467; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:49:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020812124934.45863.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 05:49:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Bar end mirrors (was SEE) To: Wayne Edelen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20020812082114.0162014c@noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii the website shows how they can be mounted. however, my feeling is that, despite the suggestion that they can be directly mounted to the bars, you would need to remove the bar end weights and install the in-bar adapter. perhaps a bar snake would be best used in conjunction with these mirrors in such a situation. jon strang? how is your bike set up now? i thought you had bar end weights before installing these..... --- Wayne Edelen wrote: > At 05:09 AM 8/12/02 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > > http://www.constructorsrg.com/store/page2.html > > > >i actually only use ONE (mounted left-side). and, i'd > pay > >much more if i had to for improved vision.... > > Do they mount to the tip of the bar ends or would those > of us with bar end > weights have to make a sort of custom mount? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 08:51:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CCpIHR026756; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:51:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CCpHKT026749; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:51:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Jim McGonigle" To: Subject: RE: hey racers: advanced riding techniques - weight in the curve - question Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:50:40 -0400 Organization: BroadSoft Message-ID: <000c01c241fe$e0512c70$4b01a8c0@jmcgonigle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020811183119.009ef1c0@mail.mac.com> Not static weight which is around 50/50. It's the weight distribution under load which when accelerating puts weight on the back wheel. Basically it says that the rear wheel has 60% of the traction, the front only 40%. I think everyone was quoting the same source: Keith Code's - Twist of the Wrist II. > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean Jordan [mailto:eternity23@XXXXXX] > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 6:37 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: hey racers: advanced riding techniques - weight > in the curve - question > > > If you're riding on the street, your body positioning doesn't > really make a > rats ass; do whatever you find to be the most comfortable. > > If you're going so fast that you feel you need to learn better body > positioning technique to avoid losing traction you need to do > one of two > things: > > A. Slow down > > AND/OR > > B. Start racing or attending track days. > > It's that simple. > > As far as the 40/60 weight distribution ratio, I have no idea > where the > hell you got that. That's WAY off base. I don't have my setup > sheets in > front of me, but my FZR400 racebike is closer to 50/50. I'm > thinking it was > 47/53, or something like that. I can't remember, but I think > there was more > weight on the front end than on the rear. > > And if you really must know, when you're "in a curve", your > butt should be > OFF of the seat. > > Sean Jordan > Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 09:06:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CD6OHR027110; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:06:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CD6O8I027106; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:06:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <005a01c24201$c5cde200$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Rich Hall" , References: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926C3@SERVER1> Subject: Re: threw my chain Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:11:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Did the master link fail? Rivet or clip type? Paul in DC 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Hall" To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:48 AM Subject: threw my chain > > For some reason i have chain issues! > > I threw it this morning on my way home. I then walked it about 1/2 mile > home. > > Can i put that chain back on? > Can it be done w/o undoing the lock? > How hard is it to do? > Anything to look out for? > > I'd be using a Haynes manual. > > If anyone wants to come to McLean tonight to help me, i'd be more than happy > to have company. > > Thanks. > > Rich > '94 Seca II > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 09:19:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CDJrHR027512; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:19:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CDJqoY027500; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:19:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926C4@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: "''dc-cycles@XXXXXX ' '" Subject: RE: threw my chain Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:20:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry, i'm a lil tired/frustrated from pushing the bike. The chain is still connected. It has about 3k miles on it. -----Original Message----- From: Rich Hall To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX ' Sent: 8/12/02 8:48 AM Subject: threw my chain For some reason i have chain issues! I threw it this morning on my way home. I then walked it about 1/2 mile home. Can i put that chain back on? Can it be done w/o undoing the lock? How hard is it to do? Anything to look out for? I'd be using a Haynes manual. If anyone wants to come to McLean tonight to help me, i'd be more than happy to have company. Thanks. Rich '94 Seca II From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 09:23:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CDNpHR027791; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:23:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CDNogb027786; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:23:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: Stevens John R DLVA To: "DC Cycles Mailing List (E-mail)" Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:23:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hmmm, Bike Night in Annapolis? John Waldorf, MD '02 VFR '77 GS750 (sold!) > .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. > (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) > >From: "Kathleen Loerich" >To: >Subject: Free motorcycle parking in Annapolis >Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 11:34:10 -0400 > >I am forwarding this message that I received recently regarding FREE >motorcycle parking in Annapolis. > >I thought some of the listers might be interested in this information. > >Kathleen > > > > >Local residents may be aware of the flap that was started a couple weeks >ago by a downtown Annapolis merchant's complaints about motorcyclists >parking in front of his store. I'm aware that at least one other nearby >merchant who appreciated the business from bikers was calling for a >protest run. > >Well, I think we can turn that planned protest run into a run of >appreciation. Yesterday when I went to downtown Annapolis for brunch, I >found that the city had taken about a dozen parking spaces, right in >front of the Harbormaster's Building at the City Dock, and converted them >to FREE (on Saturdays & Sundays at least) parking for MOTORCYCLES ONLY!! > >This is killer real estate, folks -- convenient to all the bars and >restaurants, not on some side street where vandalism or theft is as big a >concern -- right in view of all the tourists and boaters, so bikers can >show off their scoots. And as long as the city doesn't enforce their "2 >bikes max per space" limit (and why should they, if it's free?), we could >easily fit 36 or more bikes there. > >One thing we need to do is to GET THE WORD OUT!! Currently there aren't >any signs around the downtown area directing bikers towards these spaces. >When I got there I saw only one bike parked, but there were about a dozen >other bikes parked elsewhere around the dock area. If we don't use these >spaces, the city might consider its efforts wasted and take 'em back. > >Considering that I don't know of any other town in Maryland that offers >FREE weekend parking for motorcycles, I think it's deserved. If we do >this right, maybe some other towns will follow their example. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 09:30:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CDUEHR028099; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:30:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CDUEsd028095; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:30:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.0.1.4.2.20020812092301.00a673e0@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> X-Sender: brown@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.1 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:30:38 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Dan Brown Subject: RE: threw my chain In-Reply-To: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926C4@SERVER1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:20 AM 8/12/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Sorry, i'm a lil tired/frustrated from pushing the bike. The chain is still >connected. It has about 3k miles on it. Threw it, but it is still connected, just not on the sprocket? When was the last time it was tightened? What kind of shape are the sprockets in? They should be a nice U shape, with both sides basically going straight out from the center of the sprocket. If they have one side longer than the other and or your sprocket is starting to look like a saw blade, its probably time for a new chain and a set of sprockets [1]. I've never seen the business end of a Seca up close, but, on most bikes, there's some method for moving the rear axle back and forward to adjust the tension on the chain -- it general involves loosening a nut, sliding the axle, possibly using some sort of adjustment screws, to where you want it and tightening the nut back up. There should be information about this in the manual you mentioned. You might be able to do this, push the axle all the way forward, get the chain back on the sprockets, then adjust it back until you have the proper chain tension. [1] Why is it that every time I hear the word "Sprockets" I think "Now is de time ven ve dance" in a really hokey German accent? >-----Original Message----- >From: Rich Hall >To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX ' >Sent: 8/12/02 8:48 AM >Subject: threw my chain > > >For some reason i have chain issues! > >I threw it this morning on my way home. I then walked it about 1/2 mile >home. > >Can i put that chain back on? >Can it be done w/o undoing the lock? >How hard is it to do? >Anything to look out for? > >I'd be using a Haynes manual. > >If anyone wants to come to McLean tonight to help me, i'd be more than >happy >to have company. > >Thanks. > >Rich >'94 Seca II -- Resist or Serve From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 09:30:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CDUHHR028136; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:30:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CDUGTr028131; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:30:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020812133014.42730.qmail@web14611.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:30:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: threw my chain To: Rich Hall , "''dc-cycles@XXXXXX ' '" In-Reply-To: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926C4@SERVER1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii move rear wheel as forward as possible; align chain on rear sprocket; roll bike forward until mounted; move rear wheel back to proper tension. it concerns me that the chain would be so loose as to fall off the rear sprocket in the first place. have you been properly inspecting and maintaining it? --- Rich Hall wrote: > Sorry, i'm a lil tired/frustrated from pushing the bike. > The chain is still > connected. It has about 3k miles on it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich Hall > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX ' > Sent: 8/12/02 8:48 AM > Subject: threw my chain > > > For some reason i have chain issues! > > I threw it this morning on my way home. I then walked it > about 1/2 mile > home. > > Can i put that chain back on? > Can it be done w/o undoing the lock? > How hard is it to do? > Anything to look out for? > > I'd be using a Haynes manual. > > If anyone wants to come to McLean tonight to help me, i'd > be more than > happy > to have company. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 09:32:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CDW5HR028655; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:32:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CDW5eP028650; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:32:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 12 Aug 2002 13:32:02 -0000 Message-ID: <20020812133202.8649.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: threw my chain X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) >Sorry, i'm a lil tired/frustrated from pushing the bike. The chain is still >connected. It has about 3k miles on it. [Dave] so, you are saying that the chain is still one continuous loop, regardless of whether it's connected by rivet link, clip, etc... you just "threw" the chain off ? Was it loose, or are your sprockets in need of replacement ? You should just be able to reconnect the chain, but my concern is the reason it came off in the 1st place... Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 09:33:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CDX2HR028926; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:33:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CDX1Il028921; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:33:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020812133259.93874.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: threw my chain To: Dan Brown , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.0.1.4.2.20020812092301.00a673e0@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Dan Brown wrote: > At 09:20 AM 8/12/2002 -0400, you wrote: > [1] Why is it that every time I hear the word "Sprockets" > I think "Now is de > time ven ve dance" in a really hokey German accent? would you like to touch my monkey? TOUCH HIM! LOVE HIM!! -- dieter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 09:33:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CDXZHR029192; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:33:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CDXZM3029185; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:33:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020812133332.79998.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:33:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Isaac Blanck Subject: Re: DMV Skills Test To: "William J. Huson" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3D5592D6.B85119C7@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I took the DC road test last year, and altho it may have just been a temporary set up, the entire test consisted of one figure 8 on a public side street that was about 30' wide. Had to make the 8 between 2 telephone poles that were so far apart that length of the 8 was essentially not part of the test. A *car* could've done a figure eight on that street ... jib --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > Larry Larson wrote: > > > My problem is that I don't think the VA riding > test, > > like written wuestions such as how much the fine > is > > for a given violation, contribute *anything* > toward > > producing qualified and safe drivers. > > > > And the cage driving test does? Haven't taken one of > those since before > 8-track tapes, but I clearly recall parallel parking > and a trip around > the block. Before the m/c skills test, which does > test one's ability to > manuvour the bike, the m/c test was a loop around > the block or parking > lot with at least one shift and of course - a stop, > but not a quick > stop. > > I don't believe the tests are designed to insure > qualified safe > drivers/riders. What they do is test one for a > minimal operational > familiarity with the vehicle, nothing more. Even a > 3 month long > goverment funded Boot Camp in Boston for new drivers > wouldn't insure > that they'd be safer on the highway, just those that > paid attention. > > Bill > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 09:35:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CDZSHR029463; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:35:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CDZRFH029457; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:35:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [199.228.142.5] From: "Perry Coleman" To: RichH@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: threw my chain Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:34:20 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2002 13:34:20.0434 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6994F20:01C24204] Rich, I'm not chain expert, preferring shaft drive, but I have some experience with the ugly bastards. Assuming that no obvious damage has been done, and that the chain is intact, I would think that you could perform the standard chain adjustment process, bringing the axle (and sprocket) in towards the center of the bike, repositioning the chain on the sprocket (making sure to get the links properly equalized top and bottom) and then perform a proper adjustment of the chain, bringing the axle towards the rear of the bike until it is adjusted to spec. I'm guessing - barring gross breakage - that your chain was too loose, and your suspension compressed, adding enough slack to cause the chain to jump the sprocket. With any luck, you can just reposition and adjust it and be OK. Of course, you may have damage up at the transmission output that you can't see without removing some covers. Good luck Perry >From: Rich Hall >To: "''dc-cycles@XXXXXX ' '" >Subject: RE: threw my chain >Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:20:29 -0400 > >Sorry, i'm a lil tired/frustrated from pushing the bike. The chain is >still >connected. It has about 3k miles on it. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Rich Hall >To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX ' >Sent: 8/12/02 8:48 AM >Subject: threw my chain > > >For some reason i have chain issues! > >I threw it this morning on my way home. I then walked it about 1/2 mile >home. > >Can i put that chain back on? >Can it be done w/o undoing the lock? >How hard is it to do? >Anything to look out for? > >I'd be using a Haynes manual. > >If anyone wants to come to McLean tonight to help me, i'd be more than >happy >to have company. > >Thanks. > >Rich >'94 Seca II _________________________________________________________________ Join the world)B’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 09:37:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CDbAHR029738; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:37:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CDb9ch029731; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:37:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020812133707.89952.qmail@web12308.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:37:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicholas Thompson Subject: RE: threw my chain To: Dan Brown , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.0.1.4.2.20020812092301.00a673e0@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii About how often should a chain need to be tightened? I inspect mine everytime I ride. I've put over 2700 miles on the new chain/Sprokets and have only had to tighten my chain once, does this sound right, or is this normal? If the chain was so loose as to come off the rear sprocket, wouldn't there been some sort of noise/vibration coming from the chain being so loose?(imagine it slapping the swing arm) Nick --- Dan Brown wrote: > At 09:20 AM 8/12/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >Sorry, i'm a lil tired/frustrated from pushing the > bike. The chain is still > >connected. It has about 3k miles on it. > > > Threw it, but it is still connected, just not on the > sprocket? When was > the last time it was tightened? What kind of shape > are the sprockets in? > They should be a nice U shape, with both sides > basically going straight out > from the center of the sprocket. If they have one > side longer than the > other and or your sprocket is starting to look like > a saw blade, its > probably time for a new chain and a set of sprockets > [1]. > > I've never seen the business end of a Seca up close, > but, on most bikes, > there's some method for moving the rear axle back > and forward to adjust the > tension on the chain -- it general involves > loosening a nut, sliding the > axle, possibly using some sort of adjustment > screws, to where you want it > and tightening the nut back up. There should be > information about this in > the manual you mentioned. You might be able to do > this, push the axle all > the way forward, get the chain back on the > sprockets, then adjust it back > until you have the proper chain tension. > > > [1] Why is it that every time I hear the word > "Sprockets" I think "Now is de > time ven ve dance" in a really hokey German accent? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Rich Hall > >To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX ' > >Sent: 8/12/02 8:48 AM > >Subject: threw my chain > > > > > >For some reason i have chain issues! > > > >I threw it this morning on my way home. I then > walked it about 1/2 mile > >home. > > > >Can i put that chain back on? > >Can it be done w/o undoing the lock? > >How hard is it to do? > >Anything to look out for? > > > >I'd be using a Haynes manual. > > > >If anyone wants to come to McLean tonight to help > me, i'd be more than > >happy > >to have company. > > > >Thanks. > > > >Rich > >'94 Seca II > > -- > Resist or Serve > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 10:07:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CE7iHR030339; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:07:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CE7hJY030334; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:07:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD511F4DA@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: "''dc-cycles@XXXXXX ' '" Subject: RE: threw my chain Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:08:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It happened at a stop light btw, so nothing crazy. It did suck being in the left lane of 3 plus 1 turn lane though, when the light turned green and I realized I wasn't going anywhere. -----Original Message----- From: Rich Hall [mailto:RichH@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:20 AM To: ''dc-cycles@XXXXXX ' ' Subject: RE: threw my chain Sorry, i'm a lil tired/frustrated from pushing the bike. The chain is still connected. It has about 3k miles on it. -----Original Message----- From: Rich Hall To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX ' Sent: 8/12/02 8:48 AM Subject: threw my chain For some reason i have chain issues! I threw it this morning on my way home. I then walked it about 1/2 mile home. Can i put that chain back on? Can it be done w/o undoing the lock? How hard is it to do? Anything to look out for? I'd be using a Haynes manual. If anyone wants to come to McLean tonight to help me, i'd be more than happy to have company. Thanks. Rich '94 Seca II From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 10:10:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CEAOHR030627; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:10:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CEANdR030617; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:10:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [67.249.198.220] From: "Pierre C" To: nyc-moto@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX Subject: 98 VFR for Sale Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 15:10:13 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2002 14:10:13.0998 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA3918E0:01C24209] Hello all, Sorry for the spam. This is my moving sale. I am selling all my VFR and my motorcycle equipment and r real cheap. Taxes and transport to Italy are way too expensive. I will use my brother's Ninja once there. 98 vfr corbin seat D&D can Powercommander Gorilla Alarm Discklock Arai Helmet (XL) and HJC helmet (large) BMW Savannah suit (XL) Toold and all of my oiling and cleaning products (including powercommander cleaning stuff) $4850 _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 10:12:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CECQHR030916; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:12:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CECQlu030911; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:12:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020812101050.02281ea8@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:12:19 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: RE: threw my chain In-Reply-To: <20020812133707.89952.qmail@web12308.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.0.1.4.2.20020812092301.00a673e0@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:37 AM 8/12/2002, Nicholas Thompson wrote: >About how often should a chain need to be tightened? >I inspect mine everytime I ride. I've put over 2700 >miles on the new chain/Sprokets and have only had to >tighten my chain once, does this sound right, or is >this normal? There is no normal. My chain never needs tightening for some reason. Last time it was tightened was when they put the new chain on a little over 10k miles ago. It has perfect slack. Odd. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 10:14:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CEEaHR031185; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:14:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CEEaPC031179; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:14:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'Sean Jordan'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: More pick up info Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:14:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Lace's are nice. I threw an EMG-81 in the bridge position and an EMG-85 at the neck... killer. Increased my LP output by 25%... Although I hammer out some guitar work when needed, I really am a bassist and always have been (Fender Jazz Fretless)... Steinberger 5. gb The Nodes (Classic Rock) The Cutters (22 piece swing band) Jass Stompers (7 piece Dixie-Trad Jazz band) Crossroads (a bunch of Zappa influenced rockers who get together whenever) [Sean wrote]Topic of Pickups I've always liked Seymor Duncans. That's what I have in my Thinline Telecaster. The stock Fender Lace Sensors in my Strat are pretty nice too. -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 10:16:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CEGSHR031464; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:16:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CEGSAS031457; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:16:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020812141625.87028.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 07:16:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: threw my chain To: Nicholas Thompson , Dan Brown , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020812133707.89952.qmail@web12308.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Nicholas Thompson wrote: > About how often should a chain need to be tightened? only when it gets loose, bro.... > I inspect mine everytime I ride. I've put over 2700 > miles on the new chain/Sprokets and have only had to > tighten my chain once, does this sound right, or is > this normal? sounds like a scoot with relatively low hp/torque numbers (or a rider with a less than aggressive riding style)... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 10:36:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CEaFHR031949; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:36:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CEaEsk031941; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:36:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:39:13 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Impressions of the Dragon Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I finally got a chance to head out to Deal's Gap this weekend. A friend of mine was heading down to the BMW gathering in Boone, NC and we figured we'd head out west and check out what all the hype was about. I left Friday afternoon, after work, headed to Boone to camp for the nite. We took some wrong turns and got pretty lost and didn't hit the dragon until 4pm Sat. With 360 miles riding that day, I wasn't going to push it too hard, but I did have a decent run up and down. The road is very nice, fresh pavement, no gravel and pretty twisty. There were a fair amount of cars, but most pulled over and let us by. Also saw 4 police cars, 1 staked out on top of the mountain. Most of the sportbike crowd was at the top of the mountain not doing much of anything. There was one wreck, didn't look too bad. Ealier we passed by a nicely torn up Gixxer scattered on one of the roads leading to 129. I have to say it's a very nice strech of road. Certainly not the most technical, not the most scenic, but a good package. Is it worth riding down to see it?... yeah maybe, but not to ride it regularly, there is plenty in WV that is just as much fun and much closer. Riding back yesterday was hell. The air temp never dropped below 95 degrees from Wilkesboro NC to well past Richmond, and hit a peak of 100 for quite a while. After 37 hours of riding and 1496 miles, I am BEAT. Dan -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 10:57:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CEv9HR032359; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:57:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CEv9C1032354; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:57:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:00:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: threw my chain In-Reply-To: <20020812141625.87028.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Tom Gimer wrote: > Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 07:16:25 -0700 (PDT) > From: Tom Gimer > --- Nicholas Thompson wrote: > > About how often should a chain need to be tightened? > > only when it gets loose, bro.... There probably are specs on the amount of "loose" that is acceptable listed in your owners manual or clymer, or whatever. IIRC, a very general rule of thumb is like 3/4 to 1" of slack. I try to check mine out before each ride. On longer rides, I tend to check at gas stops. My old CB750 seemed to need adjustment about every 300 miles. The VFR seems to be able to go a good bit longer, and is a hell of a lot easier to adjust than the CB750. > > I inspect mine everytime I ride. I've put over 2700 > > miles on the new chain/Sprokets and have only had to > > tighten my chain once, does this sound right, or is > > this normal? > > sounds like a scoot with relatively low hp/torque numbers > (or a rider with a less than aggressive riding style)... And/or, possibly, a properly lubed o-ring chain. BTW, WTF? Is this DC-Cycles? Has been way way way too much content in the last week. What the hell Gimer, you're slacking on the flame department! -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 12:37:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CGbWHR000910; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:37:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CGbRpK000899; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:37:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2.4011 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:37:23 -0400 Subject: Re: threw my chain From: Rob Curtis To: Rich Hall , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD511F4DA@SERVER1> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Rich- Let me know if you need any help (other than over the next two nights!) I've replaced the chain on my old Seca and it's no biggie. The specs are about an inch of play, I have the exact measurement for slack at home. I'll get it to you tonight. I have the factory service manual for your bike. It has all the info you could want about servicing the Seca. Rob From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 13:00:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CH0hHR001333; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:00:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CH0hpb001328; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:00:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:56:37 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: threw my chain Message-ID: <58733E5E.12FFDF27.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Same here. I had a new chain and sprocket put on before my trip to Cali and the originals (2000 R6 bought new) were still in good shape. Close to 11000 miles on'em. Never tightened and only lubed a couple times. I'm not very mechanically inclined. ;-) Scooter In a message dated Mon, 12 Aug 2002 9:12:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: > > > At 09:37 AM 8/12/2002, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > >About how often should a chain need to be tightened? > >I inspect mine everytime I ride. I've put over 2700 > >miles on the new chain/Sprokets and have only had to > >tighten my chain once, does this sound right, or is > >this normal? > > There is no normal. My chain never needs tightening for some reason. Last > time it was tightened was when they put the new chain on a > little over 10k > miles ago. It has perfect slack. Odd. > > > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org/vfr > 1997 Honda VFR 750 > AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ > NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 13:20:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CHKhHR001830; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:20:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CHKhY7001826; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:20:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020812172040.19983.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:20:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Tight Squeeze Racing Subject: Redskins Tickets To: tardzan@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I bought Redskins Season Tickets this year, but can't use them all due to my racing schedule. If there is a game you would like to attend, please let me know. Face value of the tickets are $70, so I'm looking for $150obo for the pair to cover finance charges and shipping fees. Please visit the following website for seating, schedule, and ticket availability. Thanks, Steve Clark TightSqueezeRacing.org P.S. The Washington Redskins are an American Football Team based in Washington, DC. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 13:20:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CHKtHR001872; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:20:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CHKtNw001868; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:20:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 10:20:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: threw my chain In-Reply-To: <58733E5E.12FFDF27.0C9D3659@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > Same here. I had a new chain and sprocket put on before my trip to Cali and the originals (2000 R6 bought new) were still in good shape. Close to 11000 miles on'em. Never tightened and only lubed a couple times. I'm not very mechanically inclined. ;-) > > Scooter I've been through 3 chain adjustments (not counting the tire R&R) and lubing/cleaning every ~400 miles on my '02 Hayabusa. This is after about 3600 miles. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 13:55:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CHtwHR002688; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:55:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CHtvNi002680; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 13:55:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [67.249.198.149] From: "Pierre C" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX Subject: SPAM: VFR moving sale-- some corrections Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 18:55:50 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2002 17:55:50.0357 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E859050:01C24229] Did i say i am always very impulsive? I shoudl have thought this more carefully. I should rewrite my ad as follows: VFR 800 1998 for sale. K&N filter (NOT powercommander darn) dewco cover (perhaps 4 months old) tank bag tank bra D&D can Corbin seat Gorilla alarm one new oil filter Disk lock Battery tender BMW savannah XL suit Arai and HJC helmet Two sets of tools and wrenches All kinds of lubricants and stuff Dunlop 204/207 combo with plenty of thread brakes are good conditions with still a lot of life in them chain has at least another 8k miles but more if you treat it well Everything is good otherwise. Price fot he bike is 5300 if you buy all the stuff. Sorry, i screwed up with the price. This is just too much stuff. If you don't want part of the stuff, then we can revise the price. Cheers, Pierfrancesco WASHINGTON DC DOWNTOWN (202) 22855725 _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 14:05:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CI5NHR003052; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:05:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CI5Ndt003046; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:05:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <45.1b9a5565.2a8952d8@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:05:12 EDT Subject: Re: threw my chain To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/12/2002 1:21:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wayne@XXXXXX writes: > I've been through 3 chain adjustments (not counting the tire R&R) and > lubing/cleaning every ~400 miles on my '02 Hayabusa. This is after about > 3600 miles. Competition riding, dirt, Florida "sugar" sand/mud, Enduro race (Blind Cross country,) about 100mi. Step 1: Put on new chain. Step 2: Lube and adjust at midpoint. Step 3: Remove and throw away at end. I like shaft drive! Another factor is the quality of the chain. (many years ago now) A mechanic at our shop put on a chain from a new vendor, it broke on the test ride, put a new one on, it broke on the test ride, 3 times, sent the shit back. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 14:20:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CIKcHR003509; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:20:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CIKbhv003504; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:20:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020812182035.73051.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:20:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: SPAM: VFR moving sale-- some corrections To: Pierre C , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii questions: 1. where in nyc is the bike currently located? i would prefer a mid-town manhattan exchange. 2. does the bike have any history of electrical problems? 3. what lubricants do you have, and will you be including any toys? --- Pierre C wrote: > Did i say i am always very impulsive? > I shoudl have thought this more carefully. I should > rewrite my ad as > follows: > > VFR 800 1998 for sale. > > K&N filter (NOT powercommander darn) > dewco cover (perhaps 4 months old) > tank bag > tank bra > D&D can > Corbin seat > Gorilla alarm > one new oil filter > > Disk lock > Battery tender > BMW savannah XL suit > Arai and HJC helmet > Two sets of tools and wrenches > All kinds of lubricants and stuff > > Dunlop 204/207 combo with plenty of thread > brakes are good conditions with still a lot of life in > them > chain has at least another 8k miles but more if you treat > it well > Everything is good otherwise. > > Price fot he bike is 5300 if you buy all the stuff. > Sorry, i screwed up > with the price. This is just too much stuff. If you > don't want part of the > stuff, then we can revise the price. > > Cheers, > Pierfrancesco > WASHINGTON DC DOWNTOWN (202) 22855725 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 14:44:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CIivHR003875; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:44:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CIiuvs003870; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:44:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D580370.CCBD050B@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:50:24 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: SEE and be seen... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Excellant input on the prior SEE thread, lot of good suggestions from y`all. I keeping with the MSF mantra, see and be seen, I went hunting for a vest. The MSF site had a sale, $12 & change. Yep, reflective stripes, cool mesh, but ... black? See and be seen in basic black? I'm sure they had other colors but my antique Netscape 4.7 browser wouldn't let me cruise the catalogue. Bummer. Home Depot this noon, and I SEE a vest on display! Cool. Poopy orange but they had them in lime/yallar too - $10. What a deal. I get home and check it out, nice, my eyes hurt, must work. It wieghs all of a half ounce, open mesh, velcro closure (rated to 70 MPH?) Of course the vest had instructions on how to put it on - duh, and a disclaimer. WARNING: Do not use as a floatation device. Injury or death could result. Now I'm holding this vest, so featherwieght it kinda makes me think about those filmy underthangs in Milady's lingerie drawer, and I'm thinking, what damn fool would even think about using it as a flotation vest? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 14:54:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CIsLHR004218; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:54:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CIsLda004214; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:54:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: "William J. Huson" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: SEE and be seen... Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:51:50 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <3D580370.CCBD050B@patriot.net> In-Reply-To: <3D580370.CCBD050B@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02081214515024.01208@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 12 August 2002 14:50, William J. Huson wrote: > Excellant input on the prior SEE thread, lot of good suggestions from > y`all. > > I keeping with the MSF mantra, see and be seen, I went hunting for a > vest. The MSF site had a sale, $12 & change. Yep, reflective stripes, > cool mesh, but ... black? See and be seen in basic black? I'm sure > they had other colors but my antique Netscape 4.7 browser wouldn't let > me cruise the catalogue. Bummer. > > Home Depot this noon, and I SEE a vest on display! Cool. Poopy orange > but they had them in lime/yallar too - $10. What a deal. I get home > and check it out, nice, my eyes hurt, must work. It wieghs all of a > half ounce, open mesh, velcro closure (rated to 70 MPH?) > Yep, I have one like that. Mine's a tie on rather than velcro and no reflective strips. Got ours at K-Mart > Of course the vest had instructions on how to put it on - duh, and a > disclaimer. WARNING: Do not use as a floatation device. Injury or > death could result. > > Now I'm holding this vest, so featherwieght it kinda makes me think > about those filmy underthangs in Milady's lingerie drawer, and I'm > thinking, what damn fool would even think about using it as a flotation > vest? Windows Administrators :-) Carl -- Carl Schelin From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 15:28:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CJSPHR004702; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 15:28:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CJSOIH004694; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 15:28:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 15:31:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Short ride out to White's Ferry Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Rode out to White's Ferry yesterday (Sunday) afternoon, from Arlington. Was fun. Pretty glorious weather, though slightly on the hot side. Gassed up at Ballston, then went up Glebe, Crossed Chain Bridge, then had to navigate in a residential area, because of a "right turn only" at the end of Chain Bridge. Got back on Clara Barton Pkw out to Macarthor and took that up to Falls road. Falls Road ran into MD Rt 190 in Potomac. I took that west until it ran into River road, made a left and followed that back into the sticks. Some where back there, at the corner of, I htink Offutt and Edwards Ferry Road, I found a guy with an airhead B'mer who had a flat tire. His valve stem had broken and then defied his efforts to do field repairs. He'd recently changed his tire and then afterward his shocks, both of which required a deflation/inflation cycle - he was thinking that might have weakened things. He had assistance on the way, but didn't have any water. I shared some of that I had and chatted for a while. He's not a lister, but I told him about DC-Cycles. After getting some direction from a map that he had, I headed out towards Poolesville to get him some more water. I ran into White's ferry Road -- made a left and headed towards the river, as I knew there was a concession stand at the ferry. I probably should have made the right and headed into Poolesville, but didn't realize how close I was. Got the water and a couple powerbars. As I was packing up, there was another Bmer there, light blue -- this one was a K bike, I think. They were heading out at the same time. While we were getting suited up, a guy on an R1 pulled up and announced that he'd just had a close encounter with a tractor. As he started in with "I was going about 80 miles an hour..." I think the guy on the bmer and I both shook our heads at the same time -- most of the roads out there are marked 40 or 45mph, and there are tractor and deer signs all over the place (where there were actually signs, anyhow). On the way back, I missed the turn onto Edwards Ferry Rd, ended up in Poolesville and had to turn around. Finally got myself oriented and returned to the stranded rider with the flat tire. Gave him the supplies. He'd gotten a call from his friends and they were on the way, after having picked up the trailer. They still had a ways to go. I hope he got home ok, but he seemed to be doing ok and had a cell phone. People were stopping by periodically, offering help and such - couple HD riders offered a beer even. Cruised back up to the Ferry and rode across, back to the Commonwealth. As we were going across, watched a couple guys on a jetski doing tight circles and figure 8's. The general physics looked similar to what you'd have on a bike, and they looked like they were sweltering a lot less than I was, perfed leather or no. I was up front on the ferry and the operators let me go first. Was a bit nervous about the smooth metal deck ramp, which had water on it, but kept things upright and made it without any issues. Saw a few other bikers waiting to cross in the other direction. Was an odd feeling on the ferry to be sitting on the bike and moving, without having the engine running. Followed Rt 15 back to 7, followed that in to Old Georgetown pike. The Pike was busy, but traffic seemed to be moving along at a reasonable pace. The guy following me was nice and didn't tailgate, as sometimes happens on that road. Followed the pike back to Chain Bridge, that to Glebe and back to Arlington. 110 or so miles on the clock. Shiny side stayed up, rubber side stayed down. Made a mental note to find a good detailed area map (ADC?) and to carry some stuff like powerbars and bottled water next time, even for a short afternoon ride. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 16:58:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CKwPHR005481; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 16:58:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CKwOpv005469; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 16:58:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 17:00:07 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: bhuson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: SEE and be seen... Message-ID: <0E6E7AB3.1B88ED58.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Some redneck at some point in time must have and either drowned or was injured. They only put stupid, dumbass labels on things after it happens to at least one person and they try to sue over it. Just like the tags on hairdryers that say not to use them in the bath tub. =8-0 Scooter In a message dated Mon, 12 Aug 2002 1:50:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > > > Excellant input on the prior SEE thread, lot of good suggestions from > y`all. > > I keeping with the MSF mantra, see and be seen, I went hunting for a > vest. The MSF site had a sale, $12 & change. Yep, reflective stripes, > cool mesh, but ... black? See and be seen in basic black? I'm sure > they had other colors but my antique Netscape 4.7 browser wouldn't let > me cruise the catalogue. Bummer. > > Home Depot this noon, and I SEE a vest on display! Cool. Poopy orange > but they had them in lime/yallar too - $10. What a deal. I get home > and check it out, nice, my eyes hurt, must work. It wieghs all of a > half ounce, open mesh, velcro closure (rated to 70 MPH?) > > Of course the vest had instructions on how to put it on - duh, and a > disclaimer. WARNING: Do not use as a floatation device. Injury or > death could result. > > Now I'm holding this vest, so featherwieght it kinda makes me think > about those filmy underthangs in Milady's lingerie drawer, and I'm > thinking, what damn fool would even think about using it as > a flotation > vest? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 17:08:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CL8BHR005930; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 17:08:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CL8A76005921; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 17:08:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 17:04:02 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: t_gimer@XXXXXX, piffiffi@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: SPAM: VFR moving sale-- some corrections Message-ID: <602A3DBB.659DB489.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hmmm.....took me a second to figure out the first one Tom. Give the guy a break, canta you see he donta type English too well. Afterall, he isa movin back to Italia. Whatsa couple extra digits in the phone number? ;-) As for the third comment......way too much info there Tommy boy. ;-) Besides, I thought that was Chucks job to gather that type a paraphernalia? Scooter In a message dated Mon, 12 Aug 2002 1:20:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, t_gimer@XXXXXX writes: > > > questions: > 1. where in nyc is the bike currently located? i would > prefer a mid-town manhattan exchange. > > 2. does the bike have any history of electrical problems? > > 3. what lubricants do you have, and will you be including > any toys? > > > > --- Pierre C wrote: > > Did i say i am always very impulsive? > > I shoudl have thought this more carefully. I should > > rewrite my ad as > > follows: > > > > VFR 800 1998 for sale. > > > > K&N filter (NOT powercommander darn) > > dewco cover (perhaps 4 months old) > > tank bag > > tank bra > > D&D can > > Corbin seat > > Gorilla alarm > > one new oil filter > > > > Disk lock > > Battery tender > > BMW savannah XL suit > > Arai and HJC helmet > > Two sets of tools and wrenches > > All kinds of lubricants and stuff > > > > Dunlop 204/207 combo with plenty of thread > > brakes are good conditions with still a lot of life in > > them > > chain has at least another 8k miles but more if you treat > > it well > > Everything is good otherwise. > > > > Price fot he bike is 5300 if you buy all the stuff. > > Sorry, i screwed up > > with the price. This is just too much stuff. If you > > don't want part of the > > stuff, then we can revise the price. > > > > Cheers, > > Pierfrancesco > > WASHINGTON DC DOWNTOWN (202) 22855725 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 17:56:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CLu7HR006529; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 17:56:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7CLu7mI006524; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 17:56:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020812215605.86954.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:56:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: SPAM: VFR moving sale-- some corrections To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <602A3DBB.659DB489.0C9D3659@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > Hmmm.....took me a second to figure out the first one > Tom. Give the guy a break, canta you see he donta type > English too well. Afterall, he isa movin back to Italia. > Whatsa couple extra digits in the phone number? ;-) > > > As for the third comment......way too much info there > Tommy boy. ;-) Besides, I thought that was Chucks job > to gather that type a paraphernalia? > > Scooter goddamn humans are never happy. "flame away!" says one. "stop flaming!" says another. sorry, but i thought it was especially appropriate to give a little shit to our italian friend. after all, he's trying to sell us a bike that has been the subject of multiple, publicly-broadcast break-downs/ problems/ issues! > In a message dated Mon, 12 Aug 2002 1:20:35 PM Eastern > Standard Time, t_gimer@XXXXXX writes: > > > > questions: > > 1. where in nyc is the bike currently located? i would > > prefer a mid-town manhattan exchange. > > > > 2. does the bike have any history of electrical > problems? > > > > 3. what lubricants do you have, and will you be > including > > any toys? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Aug 12 22:31:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7D2VcHR008595; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 22:31:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7D2VWK2008581; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 22:31:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [67.249.198.147] From: "Pierre C" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: my vfr conditions Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 03:31:25 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2002 02:31:25.0656 (UTC) FILETIME=[85659580:01C24271] thanks to the questinable sense of humor of some people on this list, i explain that my bike was "stranded" because i blew up a fuse because i had put the battery on the wrong way: the positive's battery attached to the battery's negative and viceversa. The price to fix the bike was the money to buy a 30 amps fuse. I don't know who this funny guy is, and what is his bike. I doubt it's anything i would ever ride though. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 00:07:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7D47IHR010035; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 00:07:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7D47H8q010027; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 00:07:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "Pierre C" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: my vfr conditions Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 00:18:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g7D47FHR010015 yep that's what usually happens.. the main fuse / master fuse blows.. turn battery around.. replace fuse. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 01:59:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7D5xBHR010873; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 01:59:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7D5xAPB010863; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 01:59:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Rob Curtis" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: SPAM: Selling a Joe Rocket Phoenix [Red-XL] Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 01:59:00 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01c2428e$858dd7d0$6401a8c0@cypher> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1851051042 If you are local- Come get it for $110. Joe Rocket Phoenix Jacket 2002 Model Warm Weather Motorcycle Jacket Worn Twice - Too Big - Like New Condition Size: XL - Color: Red and Black Rob Curtis Senior Photographer Army Times Publishing Co. Springfield, VA http://www.robcurtis.com __________________ "To be persuasive, we must be believable. To be believable, we must be credible. To be credible, we must be truthful." Edward R. Murrow From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 06:29:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DATbHR012648; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 06:29:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DATZ17012639; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 06:29:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020813102931.35601.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 03:29:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: my vfr conditions To: Pierre C , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Pierre C wrote: > thanks to the questinable sense of humor of some people > on this list, i > explain that my bike was "stranded" because i blew up a > fuse because i had > put the battery on the wrong way: the positive's battery > attached to the > battery's negative and viceversa. The price to fix the > bike was the money > to buy a 30 amps fuse. how about explaining the troubleshooting fiasco of earlier this year in which the r/r and other electrical devises were selectively replaced without a diagnosis? what about the "clutch noises" you complained about? do we really know the extent of the damage you recently did to it during those 3 days in nyc? > I don't know who this funny guy is, and what is his bike. > I doubt it's > anything i would ever ride though. you wouldn't want to ride my dirty, neglected 996. keep your attention focused on selling the vfr. while it was in fine (superb even) condition when bruce sold it to you, your public broadcasts of issues arising with it have made it sound (to me anyway) like a typical piece of shit. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 07:04:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DB4BHR012940; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:04:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DB4BwI012933; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:04:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:01:26 -0400 (EDT) From: jdonovan@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 211 this wed evening 8/14/02 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well after hearing wonderful things about 211, and not having been out that way, I'm thinking about going that way tomorrow evening, if anyone is interested drop me a line and I'll coordinate a ride. I'd like to keep the group reasonably sized, or split into several groups if it gets that popular. I'm thinking about meeting about 6-7 pm if that time frame works for people. Jump off point will be from somewhere in warrenton, as of yet undecided exactly where. so who's in? -JD From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 08:31:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DCVGHR013480; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:31:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DCVDiv013461; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:31:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <001701c242c5$c49cdc00$a0511840@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: Buh-Bye... Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:32:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Hey, Alright guys (and gals, OK), I'm outta here. I'll be leaving for Anderson, SC in a little less than 48 hours and it's time to pack up my shiz-nit and head south. That means the computer, too. I'm due to attend Clemson graduate school (classes start the 21st) so I'm moving south for at least a few years. That means no more corner working at Summit (although Road Atlanta, Roebling, VIR and others aren't too terribly far away)! Damn. I'll be unsubscribing here today, too, but possibly will return in a few weeks when I get connected down south. It's been as much an education as a pleasure, and I hope you all stay well. Also, thank you to the powers that be for hosting this "service". I don't think enough has been said about how much you are appreciated. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard 1982 Honda ATC185S Pit Vehicle 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project You know you're addicted to racing when you refer to the end of your driveway as 'Pit Out' From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 08:39:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DCdBHR013654; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:39:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DCdBbJ013649; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:39:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <002401c242c6$e15e32c0$a0511840@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: e-mail address delete Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:42:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Hello - Well, I'm moving. I'll be a South Carolina resident in about 48 hours. That stated, please delete this e-mail address from your records. It will be de-activated as of Aug. 27, 2002. If necessary, I can be reached at IwishIdid@XXXXXX, but not until at least after August 24, 2002. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard 1982 Honda ATC185S Pit Vehicle 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project You know you're addicted to racing when you refer to the end of your driveway as 'Pit Out' From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 08:52:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DCqVHR013982; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:52:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DCqVid013977; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:52:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbhUHU57fkwgZ9n8ircnayPjHGqajsm/cWTJXec/FTEVMr9G7xu2CWlfHmBQIBKoMA= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "'Wayne Edelen'" , "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Bar end mirrors (was SEE) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:52:27 -0400 Message-ID: <01be01c242c8$480980f0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20020812082114.0162014c@noid.org> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal You'll prolly need the adapter kit (another $18 or so)...my bar ends were too big in diameter. Without the adapter kit doo-dad, you're supposed to mount directly to the bars (slide the grips/controls inward). --jon -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Edelen [mailto:wayne@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:22 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Bar end mirrors (was SEE) At 05:09 AM 8/12/02 -0700, you wrote: > > > > http://www.constructorsrg.com/store/page2.html > >i actually only use ONE (mounted left-side). and, i'd pay >much more if i had to for improved vision.... Do they mount to the tip of the bar ends or would those of us with bar end weights have to make a sort of custom mount? -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 08:58:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DCwqHR014160; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:58:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DCwqV8014155; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:58:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVanbB/tVp5jOgMjzS763loUUEILKegjYHPIWqUlaGFWKiOZkBluG/1xrBd1yu3ca3M= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "'Pierre C'" , Subject: RE: my vfr conditions Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:58:50 -0400 Message-ID: <01bf01c242c9$2bf0db60$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal It's a Ducati, my Italian friend. (I spit coffee all over my monitor when I read this email....) --jon -----Original Message----- From: Pierre C [mailto:piffiffi@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 10:31 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: my vfr conditions thanks to the questinable sense of humor of some people on this list, i explain that my bike was "stranded" because i blew up a fuse because i had put the battery on the wrong way: the positive's battery attached to the battery's negative and viceversa. The price to fix the bike was the money to buy a 30 amps fuse. I don't know who this funny guy is, and what is his bike. I doubt it's anything i would ever ride though. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 09:00:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DD0QHR014331; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:00:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DD0Pbi014325; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:00:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZUgoEzhaiUjQbXGKP94vRe6HTZAVxWO34mdtvEiSWTXzzR/BdgTWw+JB4gEzX006Q= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: Crash Alert! Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:00:22 -0400 Message-ID: <01c201c242c9$631d9ce0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal For some reason, I see plastic all over 211.... --jon -----Original Message----- From: jdonovan@XXXXXX [mailto:jdonovan@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:01 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 211 this wed evening 8/14/02 Well after hearing wonderful things about 211, and not having been out that way, I'm thinking about going that way tomorrow evening, if anyone is interested drop me a line and I'll coordinate a ride. I'd like to keep the group reasonably sized, or split into several groups if it gets that popular. I'm thinking about meeting about 6-7 pm if that time frame works for people. Jump off point will be from somewhere in warrenton, as of yet undecided exactly where. so who's in? -JD From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 09:07:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DD7MHR014538; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:07:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DD7LVF014531; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:07:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00c101c242c9$f0159080$a500a8c0@C4ZJ911> From: "Gary Foreman" To: References: <01c201c242c9$631d9ce0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> Subject: Re: Crash Alert! Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:04:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 I see dead people! Okay, I hope not :-) Word of caution, seeing is very hard at dusk on that road, even before after the sun goes behind trees. Have your sunglasses ready when heading west. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Strang" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: Crash Alert! > For some reason, I see plastic all over 211.... > > --jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: jdonovan@XXXXXX [mailto:jdonovan@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 7:01 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: 211 this wed evening 8/14/02 > > > Well after hearing wonderful things about 211, and not having been out > that way, I'm thinking about going that way tomorrow evening, if anyone is > interested drop me a line and I'll coordinate a ride. > > I'd like to keep the group reasonably sized, or split into several groups > if it gets that popular. I'm thinking about meeting about 6-7 pm if that > time frame works for people. Jump off point will be from somewhere in > warrenton, as of yet undecided exactly where. > > so who's in? > > -JD > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 09:07:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DD7VHR014572; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:07:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DD7V3o014567; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:07:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020813130729.75389.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 06:07:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: 211 this wed evening 8/14/02 To: jdonovan@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii for those that venture past 211, i'm happy to report that the virginia side of the amazing set of twisties on u.s. 33 ~20 miles west of harrisonburg has been completely repaved.... and perfectly! i wish the same could be said for 211's thornton gap, which is quickly getting shitty in the pavement department. --- jdonovan@XXXXXX wrote: > Well after hearing wonderful things about 211, and not > having been out > that way, I'm thinking about going that way tomorrow > evening, if anyone is > interested drop me a line and I'll coordinate a ride. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 09:25:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DDPQHR014950; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:25:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DDPPCj014944; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:25:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:28:27 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Jon Strang cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Crash Alert! In-Reply-To: <01c201c242c9$631d9ce0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII And this would be different from any other day because.....? On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Jon Strang wrote: > For some reason, I see plastic all over 211.... > > --jon > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 09:41:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DDfjHR015180; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:41:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DDfiK9015172; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:41:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020813134139.94635.qmail@web9708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 06:41:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: eternity23@XXXXXX, GBruhl@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ah, but P-90's are so phat. Grrrrr baby. Hum be damned. Rich 1968 SG George wrote... >>>> Lace's are nice. I threw an EMG-81 in the bridge position and an EMG-85 at the neck... killer. Increased my LP output by 25%... [Sean wrote]Topic of Pickups I've always liked Seymor Duncans. That's what I have in my Thinline Telecaster. The stock Fender Lace Sensors in my Strat are pretty nice too. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 09:43:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DDh4HR015338; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:43:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DDh4gO015333; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:43:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:46:09 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Tom Gimer cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 211 this wed evening 8/14/02 In-Reply-To: <20020813130729.75389.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Tom Gimer wrote: > for those that venture past 211, i'm happy to report that > the virginia side of the amazing set of twisties on u.s. 33 > ~20 miles west of harrisonburg has been completely > repaved.... and perfectly! Wow. That is good news. It's a very nice stretch of road, always thought that it would be perfect if repaved. Guess it is perfect now. IMO 33 makes 211 look like a little sissy hill. > > i wish the same could be said for 211's thornton gap, which > is quickly getting shitty in the pavement department. > Ahh, its all relative! Some of the stuff in NC this weekend along NC 74 was the pits. The road was literally 1/3 tar snakes that looked like they were done by a blind man. Made for some fun turns with the front and rear sliding a bit. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 10:05:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DE5THR015752; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:05:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DE5TD5015747; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:05:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:03:03 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell X-Sender: hcaldwell@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 211 this wed evening 8/14/02 In-Reply-To: <20020813130729.75389.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just want to mention that the pavement on 33 is in great condition for at least 160 miles and it's an awesome road! Hugh On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Tom Gimer wrote: > for those that venture past 211, i'm happy to report that > the virginia side of the amazing set of twisties on u.s. 33 > ~20 miles west of harrisonburg has been completely > repaved.... and perfectly! > > i wish the same could be said for 211's thornton gap, which > is quickly getting shitty in the pavement department. > > > > --- jdonovan@XXXXXX wrote: > > Well after hearing wonderful things about 211, and not > > having been out > > that way, I'm thinking about going that way tomorrow > > evening, if anyone is > > interested drop me a line and I'll coordinate a ride. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 10:22:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DEM8HR016013; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:22:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DEM8dK016006; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:22:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD511F5D1@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: threw my chain UPDATE Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:22:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" With the help of Paul Wilson (many thanks Paul) the chain is back on. The rear sprocket is all the way back and it's still loose. Paul said the valleys of the rear sprocket are too large as well, probably from wear. I went up 2 teeth on the rear sprocket when I had it done in November of last year, ~3k miles ago. I have a standard chain. He said he'd get an O-ring chain. Said they're easier to maintain. I'm leaning towards having a shop put on the new chain to see if I missed anything. The nuts on the rear sprocket took a lil abuse when the chain came off too. We also found a 1" by 1/2" piece missing from the top of the front sprocket housing where the chain must have hit it. If I were to order a chain & sprockets on line (would like to stay 2 teeth up on rear) where should I get them? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 10:24:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DEOmHR016185; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:24:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DEOmGx016179; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:24:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020813142446.21530.qmail@web14611.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 07:24:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: threw my chain UPDATE To: Rich Hall , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD511F5D1@SERVER1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii sounds like you're running aluminum. i'd stick with steel. http://www.sprocketspecialists.com/ --- Rich Hall wrote: > With the help of Paul Wilson (many thanks Paul) the chain > is back on. The > rear sprocket is all the way back and it's still loose. > Paul said the > valleys of the rear sprocket are too large as well, > probably from wear. I > went up 2 teeth on the rear sprocket when I had it done > in November of last > year, ~3k miles ago. I have a standard chain. He said > he'd get an O-ring > chain. Said they're easier to maintain. I'm leaning > towards having a shop > put on the new chain to see if I missed anything. The > nuts on the rear > sprocket took a lil abuse when the chain came off too. > We also found a 1" > by 1/2" piece missing from the top of the front sprocket > housing where the > chain must have hit it. > > If I were to order a chain & sprockets on line (would > like to stay 2 teeth > up on rear) where should I get them? > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 10:57:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DEvQHR016576; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:57:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DEvPMm016566; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:57:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [67.249.198.74] From: "Pierre C" To: t_gimer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: my vfr conditions Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:57:18 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2002 14:57:18.0358 (UTC) FILETIME=[B815FB60:01C242D9] My bike clutch never had a single problem. Obviously this tom glimer is a SLIMER instead. What do you ride tom? Can you please stop flaming me, and saying things that aren't true? do you want to meet in person? i can give you all explanations. Stop lying about me and my motorcycle. It's in fine shape. I have a voltmeter mounted on the bike. The bike charges slightly low, but I NEVER GOT STRANDED. I went with it on long trips to NY, South VA, NY, without need to charge the battery. I just needed to keep an eye on the charging system. Now I AM LEAVING YOUR COUNTRY THANK GOD and can't afford to pay the taxes THAT YOUR GOVERNMENT is asking me. THANK YOU FOR SCREWING ME UP JERK. again, if you would liek to meet in person there are a couple of things that i would love to tell you. >From: Tom Gimer >To: Pierre C , dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: my vfr conditions >Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 03:29:31 -0700 (PDT) > >--- Pierre C wrote: > > thanks to the questinable sense of humor of some people > > on this list, i > > explain that my bike was "stranded" because i blew up a > > fuse because i had > > put the battery on the wrong way: the positive's battery > > attached to the > > battery's negative and viceversa. The price to fix the > > bike was the money > > to buy a 30 amps fuse. > >how about explaining the troubleshooting fiasco of earlier >this year in which the r/r and other electrical devises >were selectively replaced without a diagnosis? > >what about the "clutch noises" you complained about? > >do we really know the extent of the damage you recently did >to it during those 3 days in nyc? > > > > I don't know who this funny guy is, and what is his bike. > > I doubt it's > > anything i would ever ride though. > >you wouldn't want to ride my dirty, neglected 996. > >keep your attention focused on selling the vfr. while it >was in fine (superb even) condition when bruce sold it to >you, your public broadcasts of issues arising with it have >made it sound (to me anyway) like a typical piece of shit. > > >-- >tg > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs >http://www.hotjobs.com _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 11:11:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DFB1HR016898; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:11:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DFB13d016890; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:11:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020813151057.25896.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:10:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: my vfr conditions To: Pierre C , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i'm willing to stop "flaming" you, pierre, if you agree to stop sending me personal, inflamatory emails expressing your desire to meet me in person. everybody on this fucking list knows that i can be found, in my bethesda office (4905 del ray ave, ste. 504), from 9am-6pm weekdays. do i want any pissed-off, irrational visitors? not particularly. but that's pretty much what i deal with every goddamn day. --- Pierre C wrote: > My bike clutch never had a single problem. Obviously this > tom glimer is a > SLIMER instead. What do you ride tom? Can you please > stop flaming me, and > saying things that aren't true? do you want to meet in > person? i can give > you all explanations. Stop lying about me and my > motorcycle. It's in fine > shape. I have a voltmeter mounted on the bike. The bike > charges slightly > low, but I NEVER GOT STRANDED. I went with it on long > trips to NY, South > VA, NY, without need to charge the battery. I just > needed to keep an eye on > the charging system. Now I AM LEAVING YOUR COUNTRY THANK > GOD and can't > afford to pay the taxes THAT YOUR GOVERNMENT is asking > me. > > THANK YOU FOR SCREWING ME UP JERK. again, if you would > liek to meet in > person there are a couple of things that i would love to > tell you. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 11:12:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DFCSHR017063; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:12:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DFCRGI017059; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:12:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <005e01c242dc$8bd49b80$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Rich Hall" , References: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD511F5D1@SERVER1> Subject: Re: threw my chain UPDATE Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:16:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Hey Rich, Thanks! Wrenching bikes and sweating on the sidewalk is my idea of how to unwind after work. As for where to order, I get most of my non-OEM stuff from Chaparral. www.chaparral-racing.com. They carry most items in stock and can get things to my door in 5-7 biz days, via UPS ground from the Left Coast. Last time on the VFR I went with a DID X-ring chain and steel sprockets. I'm a little concerned that the chain chewed up the studs and nuts that secure the rear sprocket. Those could be a PITA to get the nuts off. Then you'll need to install new studs in the driven flange. Standard chains need constant lubrication, since they have no internal lube. It's not surprising to find one shagged at 3K miles, if it hasn't been bathed constantly in gear oil. I'm surprised a reputable bike shop is installing standard chains on street bikes these days, given that most owners are more accustomed to the maintenance cycle of an O-ring chain. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F P.S. Give that Chain Wax to someone you don't like. ;-) I've tried a lot of products before settling on a ScottOiler. Life is good now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Hall" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:22 AM Subject: threw my chain UPDATE > With the help of Paul Wilson (many thanks Paul) the chain is back on. The > rear sprocket is all the way back and it's still loose. Paul said the > valleys of the rear sprocket are too large as well, probably from wear. I > went up 2 teeth on the rear sprocket when I had it done in November of last > year, ~3k miles ago. I have a standard chain. He said he'd get an O-ring > chain. Said they're easier to maintain. I'm leaning towards having a shop > put on the new chain to see if I missed anything. The nuts on the rear > sprocket took a lil abuse when the chain came off too. We also found a 1" > by 1/2" piece missing from the top of the front sprocket housing where the > chain must have hit it. > > If I were to order a chain & sprockets on line (would like to stay 2 teeth > up on rear) where should I get them? > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 11:13:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DFDlHR017241; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:13:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DFDkxq017234; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:13:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020813111305.00b81560@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:13:38 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: my vfr conditions In-Reply-To: <20020813151057.25896.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:10 AM 8/13/2002 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: >i'm willing to stop "flaming" you, pierre, if you agree to >stop sending me personal, inflamatory emails expressing >your desire to meet me in person. > >everybody on this fucking list knows that i can be found, >in my bethesda office (4905 del ray ave, ste. 504), from >9am-6pm weekdays. do i want any pissed-off, irrational >visitors? not particularly. but that's pretty much what i >deal with every goddamn day. hey Tom! I need a job! Need some local Harley muscle? ;-) -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 11:21:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DFL1HR017504; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:21:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DFL1up017497; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:21:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [67.249.198.74] From: "Pierre C" To: t_gimer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: my vfr conditions Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 16:20:53 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2002 15:20:53.0520 (UTC) FILETIME=[03969100:01C242DD] Your email annoyed the shit out of me. How dare you say that my clutch is in bad conditions? I never emailed this list or anyone aabout my clutch. You probably refer to my electrical problems in ny a couple of weeks ago which were cause ak tST AND ONLY by a MAIN FUSE BLOWN, which had happened becuase i had mounted the battery with inverterted polarities. IT"s true that my bike charges lower than it should according to specs and I OWN THE MANUAL. HOwever i was never stranded ever in long or short trips. Before you say bad things about people who are trying to sell their motorcycles because they are leaving the country (I WOULD KEEP IT OTHERWISE) check what you say, you risk that i will never be able to sell my bike now, just because you couldn't stop from flaming me. I still would like to meet you in person and show to you my motorcycle. I know you own a ducati and YOU ARE PROBABLY having clutch problems with that piece of crap. THANK YOU FOR SCREWING UP WITH MY SALE, it takes only ONE Asshole to ruin everything. ONCE AGAIN, if you would like to meet in person, I can show all you would liek to kknow about my bike and my lubricants that you seem to be interested in lubricants as well. >From: Tom Gimer >To: Pierre C , dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: my vfr conditions >Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:10:56 -0700 (PDT) > >i'm to stop "flaming" you, pierre, if you agree to >stop sending me personal, inflamatory emails expressing >your desire to meet me in person. > >everybody on this fucking list knows that i can be found, >in my bethesda office (4905 del ray ave, ste. 504), from >9am-6pm weekdays. do i want any pissed-off, irrational >visitors? not particularly. but that's pretty much what i >deal with every goddamn day. > > > > >--- Pierre C wrote: > > My bike clutch never had a single problem. Obviously this > > tom glimer is a > > SLIMER instead. What do you ride tom? Can you please > > stop flaming me, and > > saying things that aren't true? do you want to meet in > > person? i can give > > you all explanations. Stop lying about me and my > > motorcycle. It's in fine > > shape. I have a voltmeter mounted on the bike. The bike > > charges slightly > > low, but I NEVER GOT STRANDED. I went with it on long > > trips to NY, South > > VA, NY, without need to charge the battery. I just > > needed to keep an eye on > > the charging system. Now I AM LEAVING YOUR COUNTRY THANK > > GOD and can't > > afford to pay the taxes THAT YOUR GOVERNMENT is asking > > me. > > > > THANK YOU FOR SCREWING ME UP JERK. again, if you would > > liek to meet in > > person there are a couple of things that i would love to > > tell you. > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs >http://www.hotjobs.com _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 11:32:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DFWNHR017763; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:32:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DFWNml017758; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:32:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2.4011 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:32:20 -0400 Subject: Re: my vfr conditions From: Rob Curtis To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit OK PF and Tom. Calm down before the playground monitor calls recess early. You guys are both welcome to come over to my place tonight and face-off on my PS2 with some MotoGP action. The winner gets a brand new can of WD-40. Rob Just for the record-I've seen PF's VFR and I'd be writing a check if I hadn't gotten my SV a couple of weeks ago! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 11:40:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DFe6HR018020; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:40:06 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DFe6J0018014; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:40:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020813154003.82583.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:40:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: my vfr conditions To: Pierre C , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Pierre C wrote: > Your email annoyed the shit out of me. How dare you say > that my clutch is > in bad conditions? I never emailed this list or anyone > aabout my clutch. IIRC, you sent an email to this list complaining of clutch noise/plates rubbing together immediately after you purchased the bike. it apparently turned out to be nothing. but the point is, YOU MADE US AWARE OF IT. > You probably refer to my electrical problems in ny a > couple of weeks ago > which were cause ak tST AND ONLY by a MAIN FUSE BLOWN, > which had happened > becuase i had mounted the battery with inverterted > polarities. > > IT"s true that my bike charges lower than it should > according to specs and I > OWN THE MANUAL. HOwever i was never stranded ever in > long or short trips. fine. forgive me for reading the header "stranded in nyc" and assuming anything. > Before you say bad things about people who are trying to > sell their > motorcycles because they are leaving the country (I WOULD > KEEP IT OTHERWISE) > check what you say, you risk that i will never be able to > sell my bike now, > just because you couldn't stop from flaming me. > > I still would like to meet you in person and show to you > my motorcycle. I > know you own a ducati and YOU ARE PROBABLY having clutch > problems with that > piece of crap. this may hurt a bit: i've ridden your bike. however, despite my earlier comments, i DO believe that it is an excellent machine (what honda isn't?). i also thought it sounded incredible with the staintune system on it. re: the duc.... the clutch/basket will be replaced in the next 5k miles. no problems, YET.... but considering the longevity of ducati's oem shit, it is only a matter of time. i have been brutally honest on this list with my impression of ducati's quality control. > THANK YOU FOR SCREWING UP WITH MY SALE, it takes only ONE > Asshole to ruin > everything. if i screwed up a possible sale, i am indeed sorry, pierre. that was certainly not my intention. have the would-be buyer call me. i probably know more about your bike's history than you do. > ONCE AGAIN, if you would like to meet in person, I can > show all you would > liek to kknow about my bike and my lubricants that you > seem to be interested > in lubricants as well. now you're tempting me. > >From: Tom Gimer > >To: Pierre C , > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >Subject: Re: my vfr conditions > >Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:10:56 -0700 (PDT) > > > >i'm to stop "flaming" you, pierre, if you agree to > >stop sending me personal, inflamatory emails expressing > >your desire to meet me in person. > > > >everybody on this fucking list knows that i can be > found, > >in my bethesda office (4905 del ray ave, ste. 504), from > >9am-6pm weekdays. do i want any pissed-off, irrational > >visitors? not particularly. but that's pretty much > what i > >deal with every goddamn day. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 11:41:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DFf5HR018184; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:41:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DFf4DM018175; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:41:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <014501c242e0$8a4ffa80$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Rob Curtis" , References: Subject: Re: my vfr conditions Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:45:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Yes, I've spent quite a bit of time helping Pierre wrench this bike and can vouch for it off list for anyone who's interested. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Curtis" > Just for the record-I've seen PF's VFR and I'd be writing a check if I > hadn't gotten my SV a couple of weeks ago! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Aug 13 11:41:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7DFf9HR018220; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:41:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g7DFf9Se018216; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:41:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: linux1.gl.umbc.edu: jconli1 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:41:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Conlin To: Subject: Givi trek, DC-MA toll free*, ridin' In-Reply-To: <200208082300.g78N01VY026315@dirty.meretrix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This weekend, I headed from DC to Worcester, MA to pick up a set of lightly used Givi E360s (even though I always thought they were far uglier than the more simple E36s - the price was right). The owner moved from a VFR to an ST. Poor him. :) Using a Euro-Kawi-OEM rack instead of a monster Wingrack, the Givis mount up quickly and easily... they look surprisingly good on the half-naked GPz, and as far as function goes, are lightyears ahead of my old Eclipse soft luggage. Check the fine folks at www.riderhaus.com for alternatives to the Wingrack. They can also get plenty of cool Euro-only bodywork, (fully-faired FZs and SVs... huggers... blah blah blah). The website is being renovated... but they can pretty much any Euro part. Great ride, believe it or not. Last I checked, using I-95 for that trip was roughly $23?. I opted to take the following : B/W Pkwy - I695 - I83 - I81 - I78 - I287 - US202 - Palisades Pkwy - Bear Mountain Pkwy* - US6/202 - I84 - I691 - I91 - I-84 - US20 (* actually, there was a $1 one-way toll to cross the Hudson, but it was a gorgeous view and opened up into the twisty and scenic Bear Mountain Pkwy, so it was worth it). Slabby, but not mind-numbing. Good scenery. Wide open stretches with some variety in the middle. I think it was about 4 hours of interstate, 1 hour of suburbs, 10 minutes of glorious twisties, 1 hour of suburbs, then another 2 hours of interstate. Great route between the Mid Atlantic and New England. I don't think there are any other mods to be made on this GPz now... it's done. Just throw on the ecm, gps, and mp3 and fly. Off to strafe the Appalachians into south Georgia next week. Maybe another trip to New England the week after that. There have been too many damn riders down or dying lately... (I know of 5 - most great riders - just in the last 2 months). Some doing things they shouldn't have been, others victims of poor drivers but didn't leave themselves a good out... either way, it makes ya think a lot. But the more I think about it, the more I realize how much I love it. Had a 5 year old completely disregard the Barney movie playing on the DVD screen in front of him and flash me a thumbs-up and a big smile while passing his mommy's minivan somewhere on I-78. He knows what its all about. Luckily he reminded me. Safe (but fun) rides- -- Jeff Conlin Belt