From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 06:34:08 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA28636 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 06:34:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA00103 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 06:34:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 06:34:02 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Honda XRs - any Honda salesmen out there? Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm looking into 4 stroke Honda dirt bikes, with a preference towards Honda XRs. I was planning on turning whatever I get into a street legal bike. Well, I've come across a reasonably priced 91 XR250L, the dualsport model. Does anyone happen to know the differences between this bike and the dirt only XR250R? Obviously the L has street gear on it. I'm more concerned with differences in suspension (e.g., does the L have cartridge forks like the R), motor/intake/exhaust, and weight. The Rs seem to hold their value better than the Ls, judging by the classified ads nationally... Because of this I'm assuming better components on the R... Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 06:40:51 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA28718 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 06:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA00187 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 06:40:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 06:40:45 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Tire Choices In-Reply-To: <19990401051015.26202.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Collin T. Fagan wrote: > The two twins riders that tried them (Craig and Kirk) both had longevity > issues. Can't speak for Kirk, but Craig was running too low of air > pressure in his. Low air pressure will cause a tire to shred in a > hurry. Talking with the Avon rep, their tires require 2-4 psi more than > dunlop/metzler, etc. due to the very soft carcass. This is something I hadn't heard before. Perhaps I should become a track rat... I run 34f/32r for normal riding (commuting) and 32f/30r for weekend rides when I think to change it. I don't recall just which pressure I used in the Azaro I had (I had it during the height of the season and used up half of its life in one weekend trip). I would guess that I used the lower pressure since most of the miles were fun miles. So, would I run them at even higher pressures for commuting longevity? Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 07:37:49 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA29628 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 07:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id HAA07970 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 07:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE7C12.6D5C3E90@XXXXXX>; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 07:36:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: feet down, feet up Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 07:36:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had a bad experience with flashing the brake light while stopped. I had read in some moto mag that this was a good thing to do so that cagers would be more likely to notice you. I also would stay to one side of the lane or the other, mostly to avoid those oil slicks you usually find in the center of the lane. So there I am, in the left half of the lane (not the left turn lane), flashing my brake light, and this guy in a cage pulls up in my lane (!), just about brushing my right knee. I could not believe it. Apparently he thought my flashing brake light was a turn signal. I'm not advising anyone to stop flashing their brake lights. To thine own self be true. My point is to expect cagers to be idiots, even malicious, and you may occasionally be surprised if they are not. I have recently started leaving it in first gear at lights, since you folks were kind enough to explain the reasoning to me. Thanks. People do get rammed from behind. The guy who sits next to me at work just had his Jeep Grand Cherokee totaled by a Jag that plowed into him from behind. Rich (13 years riding experience. Taking the MSF beginners course in May.) '78 Triumph Bonneville '99 Enfield Bullet Sterling > -----Original Message----- > > do you sit at lights, staring in your mirrors, guaging the > approach speeds > of oncoming vehicles? sounds kind of difficult/impossible to me. > Brian wrote... a'yup.. I do, untill there are a couple of cars as buffers behind me. I typically flash my brake light to boot, even if the car looks to be slowing normally. Though there's no excitment in the world like hearing the screaching of tires behind you.. I really don't desire to be hit from behind (again)... From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 07:39:30 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA29638 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 07:39:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A8FD3703BA; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 07:39:25 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990401073355.012a0cd0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 07:36:39 -0500 To: Dc-Cycles From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: feet down, feet up In-Reply-To: <85256745.00758A46.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:25 PM 3/31/99 , christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: >Henry Winokur wrote: >There is no RSS. It is called the BRC (Beginning Rider Course). The ERC >is not recommended unless you've had your bike for at least a couple of >months.. >-- >Is this correct? Just last year, the beginner course was called RSS. Did >they change the course title this year? >Chris Weaver Maryland has called the courses BRC (Beginners Rider Course) and ERC (Experienced Riders Course). The official MSF title of the first course is MRC:RSS -- Motorcycle Rider Course: Riding and Street Skills. I think Virginia uses the MSF title. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 08:26:40 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00454 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A40A5530248; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 08:26:34 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990401082255.0128a310@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 08:26:56 -0500 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: feet down, feet up In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:36 AM 4/1/99 , Crishock, Richard wrote: >So there I am, in the left half of the lane (not the left turn lane), >flashing my brake light, and this guy in a cage pulls up in my lane (!), >just about brushing my right knee. I could not believe it. Apparently >he thought my flashing brake light was a turn signal. Either that or he thought you were disabled and displaying flashing lights, like 4-way flashers indicate a disabled vehicle. Everyone knows that brake lights don't flash, so I think people send mixed messages by using flashing brake lights. Better, I'd say, is to add auxiliary lights to attract attention, but still have steady-on brake lights. I, too, have had the problem of being too far to one side and letting a car driver pull up next to me, even on the highway. I think the solution is part -- 1) protecting your lane space with good positioning 2) protect your lane space by moving around a lot 3) just get the hell out of the way of crazy cagers Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 09:26:05 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web309.yahoomail.com (web310.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA01425 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:26:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990401142839.10957.rocketmail@web309.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.16.7] by web310.yahoomail.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 06:28:39 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 06:28:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: RE: feet down, feet up To: Dc-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have the information/application for the course in Alexandria, where I teach. It is called the Riding and Street Skills (RSS) course. I have never heared it referred to it as a BRC while teaching there. It's been three years since my Instructor Prep course, but I believe they said something along the lines of they didn't want people to think the course was only for beginners, (since even an old dog can learn new tricks, as my parents dog showed me) and people with some experience were as welcome as beginners. But that doesn't change the fact that the course is geared towards beginners, and we start everyone off as if they were beginners. And of course since we are currently booked up to the Fourth of July (when I checked last week), people with experience may be better off time-wise looking into the ERC. (No ERC's at Alexandria though, they are supposed to be tearing up that parking lot soon) Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 09:39:34 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA01666 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:39:33 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA05594; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:36:34 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma005337; Thu, 1 Apr 99 09:35:52 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9I00EBBLXD17@XXXXXX>; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:36:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256746.00500D95 ; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:34:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:28:31 -0500 Subject: RE: msf training.. To: Leon Begeman Cc: Dc-Cycles Message-id: <85256746.004F2F88.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Leon wrote: I do allow experienced students to scrape pegs during the course. ...Which is impossible because the @#$!% in front of you is riding too slow and you can't get past 3 mph, and no matter how tight the circles are, you can't scrape pegs at 3 mph. ;^) Chris Weaver p.s. I was always frustrated with the slowness of my classmates during the class I took... Can you tell? From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 10:06:51 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (web305.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.187]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA02179 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:06:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990401151325.15948.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.39.153] by web305.yahoomail.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 07:13:25 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 07:13:25 -0800 (PST) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Tire Choices To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii WOW.. those are really low pressures for street riding and street comp tires... What you're looking for with pretty much any tire is a 10% increase in presure from cold measurement to hot measurement. I ran my Azzaros between 34 and 36 psi on the gixer (usually 36R 35F on dunlop 204's and reverse of that on Avons). Craig (the US Avon distributor) said that he recommends no less than 38 psi!! His comments were that if you ran them with too low of a psi, they would not break in properly and would feel very greasy and wear out fast, which sounds a lot like what you posted about your set. Collin --- Kirk Roy wrote: > This is something I hadn't heard before. Perhaps I should become a > track > rat... I run 34f/32r for normal riding (commuting) and 32f/30r for > weekend > rides when I think to change it. I don't recall just which pressure I > used > in the Azaro I had (I had it during the height of the season and used > up > half of its life in one weekend trip). I would guess that I used the > lower > pressure since most of the miles were fun miles. So, would I run them > at > even higher pressures for commuting longevity? > > Kirk > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 10:18:52 1999 Return-Path: riders@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02361 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:18:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (209-122-199-37.s291.tnt4.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.199.37]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA20605; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:25:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36E92E78.7C16@erols.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:10:48 -0500 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Henry S. Winokur" CC: Dc-Cycles Subject: Re: flashing brake lights References: <002301be7bc0$5a6eca20$406088d1@henrywin> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We still have them in stock. I have them on my R1100rs and you can't believe the reactions of those following until you've seen it. Those trailing you stop waaaayy back and I LIKE THAT!! Henry S. Winokur wrote: > > > > typically flash my brake light to boot, even if the car looks > > there is a device called a Safety Braker which will do it for you. It is a > black box that goes into the brake light circuit. It flashes the brake > light 3 times quickly, then holds the light on for 6 seconds, then repeats. > Only works when the brake light is on. Art Crow at Rider's Accessory Whse > in Falls Church used to carry there. > > There is another device which I have installed on my GTS called Hyper Lites. > It is a pair of LED modules hooked up to a solid state flasher connected to > the brake light circuit. The LED modules have 8 red LEDs in them in a 2x4 > pattern (2 rows of 4 each). From directly behind the bike they are VERY > noticeable. You can mail order them from a company called M&G Accessories > > (http://www.mgaccess.com/index.html) > > If they can't see 'em, then they have their eyes closed...so what else is > new?? > > Henry S. Winokur > '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 > AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor > West Bethesda, MD -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 10:25:43 1999 Return-Path: wowbager@XXXXXX Received: from stmpy.cais.net (stmpy.cais.net [199.0.216.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02460 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from wowbager (dynamic219.cl8.cais.net [205.177.20.219]) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA08812 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:23:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990401102149.006a7640@mail.dc.net> X-Sender: wowbager@XXXXXX (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:21:49 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike Subject: Re: feet down, feet up In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:28 PM 3/30/99 -0500, you wrote: >A friend of mine who took the safety course at Nova said that they teach >you to leave the bike in first gear when at a stop with your hand on the >clutch so you can take off if a car is going to hit you. > >Is this true? Is this realistic? Or is this just a good habit that I >probably won't pick up any time soon. > Absolutely!! I use this tactic along with aligning myself on an escape path while waiting for the approaching vehicle to stop behind me. once they have stopped I relax a bit. This has saved my bacon more than once, when I would have been sandwiched between cars otherwise. Mike B. 98 ZX900R From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 11:35:53 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03860 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:35:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA03319 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:35:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw2a.lmco.com (mailgw2a.lmco.com [192.91.147.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27466 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:35:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from emss03g01.ems.lmco.com (emss03g01.orl.lmco.com [141.240.4.144]) by mailgw2a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31433 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:35:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) id <0F9I00701MVDXC@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from emss09m03.ems.lmco.com ([129.218.66.41]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) with ESMTP id <0F9I0079OQZEC2@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 11:26:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by emss09m03.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:26:03 -0600 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 10:26:00 -0600 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: NON-MOTO - I'm back To: "'DC Cycles'" Message-id: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A011B771E@emss09m05.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT It's been hell the past 3 days - no internet e-mail coming in or going out from Lockheed Martin - the entire corporation. I actually had to work :(. But now things are back and I hope my e-mail didn't bounce too much on the DC Cycles server. Did I miss anything? Tracy Tracy L. Horstman UNIX System Administrator Lockheed Martin Enterprise Information Systems 9255 Wellington Rd. Manassas, VA 20110 Voice: (703) 367-2981 Fax: (703) 367-1389 E-mail: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 11:58:07 1999 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04215 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:58:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net [208.220.24.75] by tidalwave.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id A36C280050; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 11:48:44 EST Message-ID: <36FFB134.96BF46F0@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:58:28 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: msf training.. References: <3.0.3.32.19990331221833.006b309c@illuminet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leon Begeman wrote: > > I agree with the one warning part, but as to reasons for tossing Brian out > of the BRC. Cool! Brian, you hooligan you, you've been tossed from the class without even signing up. That must be some kind of record! :) Dale - I coulnd't get myself kicked out the first time around... -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours - Hers. Mine. Ours. :) 1987 Suzuki Savage - Back into Service for a little while longer. 1998 Kawasaki Concours - RIP From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 12:19:58 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04595 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:19:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from 95 (207-172-106-2.s65.as1.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.106.2]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19800 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:26:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199904011726.MAA19800@smtp2.erols.com> From: "D. Thompson" To: Subject: Fw: feet down, feet up Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:24:16 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In addition to Chris' suggestions, One little trick I use that my pop taught me is to position yourself at a little bit of an angle pointing at an escape route but with the majority of the bike still towards the center of the lane. This gives the cages more of you and your bike to see and still provides for quick exit if needed. Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." > 1 Samuel 2:30 > Chris wrote: > > I, too, have had the problem of being too far to one side and letting a > car > > driver pull up next to me, even on the highway. I think the solution is > > part -- > > 1) protecting your lane space with good positioning > > 2) protect your lane space by moving around a lot > > 3) just get the hell out of the way of crazy cagers > > > > Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 14:48:25 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07167 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:48:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA26132 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:48:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D654KVHX; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:45:33 EST To: ghowell@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: state lines Message-ID: <19990401.000544.5263.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <00f801be7b34$1a04f180$6e0000c0@demon.clinitec> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-6,8-19 From: Bikes R Us Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:45:33 EST This is true. All three jurisdictions have reciprocity with one another. Any lawman who sees you commit your heinous crime can and probably will pursue you across the bridge and pop you, regardless of which direction you happen to be going when you do the deed. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 00:05:31 -0500 "George Howell" writes: >I think DC, VA, and MD have some agreements to allow overlap of >jurisdiction. If you're gonna let loose, do it when the man ain't in >sight. > >---------------------------------------- >-George Howell >ghowell@XXXXXX >ghowell@XXXXXX >georgehowell@XXXXXX >"I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 15:04:05 1999 Return-Path: garicao@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (garicao@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07505 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:04:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id PAA29328; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:05:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:05:35 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: British bikes and Swedish visitor Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A visitor from Sweden who rides an old (ca. 1960) BSA would like some help in finding local Brit bike people, parts, swap meets, and/or shows. If you are, have, or know about any of these, please let me know and I'll pass it on to him. Thanks. --garcia From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 15:17:45 1999 Return-Path: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07793 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:17:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from gibberish.radix.net (port10.annex2.radix.net [209.48.226.10]) by mail1.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA13796 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:17:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3703D490.20A0@radix.net> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:18:24 -0500 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 03/31/99 References: <199904010000.TAA16207@meretrix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > A friend of mine who took the safety course at Nova said that they teach > you to leave the bike in first gear when at a stop with your hand on the > clutch so you can take off if a car is going to hit you. > > Is this true? Is this realistic? Or is this just a good habit that I > probably won't pick up any time soon. Don't know what MSF says about this, but I sit at a light in gear until there are 2 cages behind me, with either the front brake lever pulled in, or the rear brake pedal pressed to initiate my 55w halogen brake light bulb. Richard Wood p.s. i was hit from behind 23 years ago at a stop light by a car going 50mph. and limped away. before this technique. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 16:04:56 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08785 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:04:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990401210727.27522.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.39.153] by web304.yahoomail.com; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:07:27 PST Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:07:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Tune and test day at Summit Point To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey all... When I posted "tomorrow" I wasn't paying attention to the fact that it was after midnight.... Tune and Test was today (4/1). Due to the rain and general wet conditions, i wussed out :( I went as far as a few miles past Leesburgh this AM, and the rain kept getting harder the farther west I went, so I bailed and came back home... Oh well.. guess I'll have to get a lot out of the two practice sessions before the first race on April 10th....See ya'll out there... Collin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 17:15:59 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA10279 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:15:57 -0500 (EST) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id rIASa07227; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:04:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8b7da720.3703ed7a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:04:42 EST To: gixer_racer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Tune and test day at Summit Point Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 No wonder I couldn't find you. I went over after I got back from a dental appointment in Sterling. Got to the track about 1:30 just as the rain was stopping. By little after 2:00 the line was dry and by 2:30 the track was dry except for the puddle between 7 and 8 and the one at the beginning of 10. The quickest rider I timed did a 1:34 and high change. Didn't time every one only the fastest few. I'm going to try to get over for your race. Bob From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 19:11:25 1999 Return-Path: schelzig@XXXXXX Received: from research.circ.gwu.edu (research.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.250]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA12315 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:11:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by research.circ.gwu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA11928; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:13:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:13:28 -0500 (EST) From: Erik Schelzig X-Sender: schelzig@research To: "Collin T. Fagan" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Tune and test day at Summit Point In-Reply-To: <19990401210727.27522.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII you don't ride a Yamaha 1100 do you? I was on Leesburg Pike and chatted briefly with a semi-soaked rider heading out that way. I was heading to Crossroads Cycle at the time on my t(c)rusty CX. allbests, erik ==== Erik J. Schelzig http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~schelzig On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Collin T. Fagan wrote: > Hey all... When I posted "tomorrow" I wasn't paying attention to the > fact that it was after midnight.... Tune and Test was today (4/1). > > Due to the rain and general wet conditions, i wussed out :( > I went as far as a few miles past Leesburgh this AM, and the rain kept > getting harder the farther west I went, so I bailed and came back > home... > > Oh well.. guess I'll have to get a lot out of the two practice sessions > before the first race on April 10th....See ya'll out there... > Collin > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 19:13:01 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA12391 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:13:00 -0500 (EST) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id fWGDa27661; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:08:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9dd601f3.2435648f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:08:47 EST Subject: Re: British bikes and Swedish visitor To: garicao@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/1/99 3:11:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, garicao@XXXXXX writes: << If you are, have, or know about any of these, please let me know and I'll pass it on to him. Thanks. >> have him call Frank Diehl at home 410-776-6932 or at Heyser Cycle at 410-721-7299. He is the area's BSA expert, raced at the top levels in AMA and now is the General Manager of Heyser Cycle in Laurel and does restoration of British bikes at home. Great guy. Rebuilt my Norton engine. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 19:21:41 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA12575 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:21:39 -0500 (EST) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id rYMLa21916; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:10:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:10:00 EST Subject: Re: Tune and test day at Summit Point To: gixer_racer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/1/99 4:14:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, gixer_racer@XXXXXX writes: << fact that it was after midnight.... Tune and Test was today (4/1). >> Damn, I was all set to go. LOL Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 21:08:11 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14312 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:08:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from henrywin (east-dialup87.idsonline.com [209.136.96.87]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA18806 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:07:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: feet down, feet up Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:09:45 -0500 Message-ID: <000601be7cad$e0906b20$576088d1@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Rich (13 years riding experience. Taking the MSF beginners course in > May.) Rich, please report on what you thought of the course and whether you learned anything, and most importantly, was it time/money well spent? Where are you taking it? Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 21:08:10 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14309 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:08:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from henrywin (east-dialup87.idsonline.com [209.136.96.87]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA18802 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:07:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: msf training.. Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:09:43 -0500 Message-ID: <000501be7cad$dfae96a0$576088d1@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199903312352.SAA01114@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have never seen situation where instructor was forced to give > someone a warning, not to mention let someone go. > Well, it was in Ohio, boring midwestern state. During the course of the last 9 years I've probably taught upwards of 100 beginner classes. We ask people to leave in this order: they are a danger to themselves, the class, or the instructor, or under the following circumstances: 1. they can't ride a bicycle (this is simply too complicated to learn to do, if you can't balance the thing. 2. they clearly are in over their heads. 3. people who can't follow directions. I remember once we had a fellow who didn't speak American well, and ended up going counter to everyone else's direction. He was asked to leave--danger to other students. 4. Hot dogs who can't/won't follow directions--they are a danger to everyone, including themselves, they just don't know it. As an instructor, it's my responsibility to take care of the class. Mind you, in MD we all work with other instructors on the range, and never is the decision to eject a student made without conferring with one's compatriot instructor. Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 21:08:08 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14306 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from henrywin (east-dialup87.idsonline.com [209.136.96.87]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA18799 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:07:05 -0500 (EST) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: feet down, feet up Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:09:42 -0500 Message-ID: <000401be7cad$defd9620$576088d1@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199903312219.RAA11820@radagast.wizard.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > When is this change going to become effective? The instructor > materials I received 3 weeks ago still refer to it as MRC:RSS! Don't worry about it, Anita. Whatever it is called it is still the beginner's riding course. My old notebooks also say MRC:RSS. I don't know where I got the idea that the name has changed to BRC (it's so much shorter, :) ), maybe just here in MD. And perhaps I'm wrong. Won't be the first time!! Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 21:08:05 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14301 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from henrywin (east-dialup87.idsonline.com [209.136.96.87]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA18787 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:07:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: msf training.. Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:09:38 -0500 Message-ID: <000101be7cad$dc7823c0$576088d1@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8ff5103f.3702ba30@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > In a message dated 3/31/99 4:28:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, > henwin@XXXXXX > writes: > > << We don't cotton to that kind of behavior...sort of goes > against what we are > trying to teach. > >> > Ok, that does it, I have to respond. I ride a motorcycle for > thrills, not for > transportation. Transportation is much more capably handled by > an automobile > which among other things keeps one dry. > > If MSF doesn't "cotton" to "that kind of behaviour" it isn't for > me. I like > to pull wheelies, try to do stoppies and take my bike as close to > the limit as > my abilities allow me to. If this were not an option I would > have no desire > to ride a motorcycle. Anyway, as they say "those who can do and those who > can't teach". Fred, you missed the point. The question was concerning what if a STUDENT in a BEGINNERS class had pulled such stunts. If the instructor feels (at least in MD) that the student's behavior is endangering the student, class or instructor (in that order) then the student will be removed from the class. I can guarantee that if a student pulled such things in a class that I was teaching, they'd get one (and only one) warning. Next time....out they'd go. If you want to do those types of stunts on the road, that's fine with me (I won't ride with you, but that's OK too). Your behavior on the road is YOUR responsibility. However, don't be too surprised when DA MAN pulls you over and gives you a ticket for reckless driving. I also must disagree with your last statement. Lots of people can do, but the fact is few can teach WELL. I'm reasonably sure I could do the things you mention, but for various reasons I choose not to. But until you are a certified instructor, who has successfully taught then your last statement is bullshit as far as I am concerned. Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 21:08:06 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14302 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from henrywin (east-dialup87.idsonline.com [209.136.96.87]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA18790 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:07:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: flashing brake lights Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:09:40 -0500 Message-ID: <000201be7cad$dd84b1c0$576088d1@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00f701be7c0a$65c9e540$c121accf@l4rite> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Only works when the brake light is on. Art Crow at Rider's > Accessory Whse > in Falls Church used to carry there. Its 132 West Jefferson Street, Falls Church, VA 22046. Best thing to do is call and ask for directions. (703) 241-0733. I'd give them to you myself, but I don't know all of the street names, I simply know where it is and how to get there. Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 21:22:22 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14611 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:22:20 -0500 (EST) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id 9LGIa08674; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:19:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1ceb5480.24358342@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:19:46 EST Subject: Re: msf training.. To: henwin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/1/99 9:16:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, henwin@XXXXXX writes: << The question was concerning what if a STUDENT in a BEGINNERS class had pulled such stunts. >> Well I happen to have ridden with Brian and he deserves the opportunity to do a wheelie or two in the class. Ciao. Fred From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 1 23:44:48 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA16862 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:44:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA12184 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.216.152]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA13701 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA05064 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:44:36 -0500 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma005062; Thu, 1 Apr 99 23:44:17 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990401234035.00a019d0@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 23:44:16 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Remotely MC Related - Yahoo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I can claim this as MC related since dc-cycles has a group area on Yahoo. Have you all taken a look at what My Yahoo can provide? Their customized content is incredible. As someone that is online for 14 hours a day (network administrator) I try to find really valuable information deposits - and My Yahoo is by far the best. From local movie theater listings, TV listings, new headlines, Outlook syncable calendar and contact lists - this once page replaces a dozen sites I use for current information. If you haven't been to the dc-cycles Yahoo group page - check it out. Although I did notice that this weekend's rides are not posted on the group calendar ;-) See most of you Saturday in Middleburg..... _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 00:49:07 1999 Return-Path: schelzig@XXXXXX Received: from research.circ.gwu.edu (research.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.250]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA17835 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:49:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by research.circ.gwu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA01322; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:51:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:51:16 -0500 (EST) From: Erik Schelzig X-Sender: schelzig@research To: "Henry S. Winokur" cc: Dc-Cycles Subject: RE: msf training.. In-Reply-To: <000501be7cad$dfae96a0$576088d1@henrywin> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Henry S. Winokur wrote: > During the course of the last 9 years I've probably taught upwards of 100 > beginner classes. We ask people to leave in this order: they are a danger > to themselves, the class, or the instructor, or under the following > circumstances: [snip] > 3. people who can't follow directions. I remember once we had a fellow who > didn't speak American well, and ended up going counter to everyone else's > direction. He was asked to leave--danger to other students. why, was he English or something? [grin] allbests, erik (who would speak pidgen if it were up to him) From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 06:20:34 1999 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA24415 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust045.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.45]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA19808; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:21:42 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990401234437.006a1e34@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 23:44:37 -0500 To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: RE: msf training.. Cc: Dc-Cycles In-Reply-To: <85256746.004F2F88.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:28 AM 4/1/99 -0500, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: >Leon wrote: >I do allow experienced students to scrape pegs during the course. > >...Which is impossible because the @#$!% in front of you is riding too slow >and you can't get past 3 mph, and no matter how tight the circles are, you >can't scrape pegs at 3 mph. ;^) Perhaps not, considering the tight circles event that DC Cyclers have sometimes done: diameter of center of circle 11 ft, circumference 35 ft, time for six circles 30 sec, time for one circle 5 sec therefore 7 ft/sec. or about 5 mph. Chris Norloff was dragging his feet on the 750 last year, I don't recall if anyone actually scraped pegs. The WSDYMFG has the right idea; go slow on the straights so you can pick up speed around the corners. It works in the MSF course, too. Leon. > >Chris Weaver > >p.s. I was always frustrated with the slowness of my classmates during the >class I took... Can you tell? > > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 07:39:43 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA25528 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:39:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2DH1RBW9>; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 04:39:20 -0800 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: msf training.. Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 04:39:26 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > << The question was concerning what if a STUDENT > in a BEGINNERS class had pulled such stunts. >> > Well I happen to have ridden with Brian and he deserves the > opportunity to do > a wheelie or two in the class. LOL - thanks for the endorcment.. sheesh, this was all in jest and looky the flame-war that's spawned. Heck, everyone knows that racers tend to be the biggest hooligans out there, and the tracks know this.. it's not allowed.. strictly. Though, they don't seem to mind if you're on the race-track, or you just won a race.. a little show-boating for the crowd and all. I might put the thing down and scratch some pegs.. of course, the instructor might have a clue as I show up in full leathers with scuffed knee-pucks and WERA tech. inspection stickers on my helmet.. :P *grin* First.. first I need to heal though. Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 07:57:48 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA25822 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AEC63200274; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 07:57:42 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990402074741.01295130@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 07:49:39 -0500 To: Dc-Cycles From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: msf training.. In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990401234437.006a1e34@illuminet.net> References: <85256746.004F2F88.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >At 09:28 AM 4/1/99 -0500, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: >>...Which is impossible because the @#$!% in front of you is riding too slow >>and you can't get past 3 mph, and no matter how tight the circles are, you >>can't scrape pegs at 3 mph. ;^) > >>>Leon wrote: >Perhaps not, considering the tight circles event that DC Cyclers have >sometimes done: >diameter of center of circle 11 ft, circumference 35 ft, time for six >circles 30 sec, time for one circle 5 sec therefore 7 ft/sec. or about 5 >mph. Chris Norloff was dragging his feet on the 750 last year, I don't >recall if anyone actually scraped pegs. When I could get my feet out of the way, I got far enough over with both the 750 and later the BMW K100 to touch down the engine guards. I was able to set a few low times, until Collin got warmed up. :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 07:57:48 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA25823 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:57:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AEC93200274; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 07:57:45 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990402075055.0129c890@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 07:55:37 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: msf training.. In-Reply-To: <000101be7cad$dc7823c0$576088d1@henrywin> References: <8ff5103f.3702ba30@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Ok, that does it, I have to respond. I ride a motorcycle for >> thrills, not for transportation. Transportation is much more capably handled >>by an automobile which among other things keeps one dry. For my daily transportation (commuting), my bike is faster, cheaper and more fun than a car. My Aerostich suit keeps me dry. >> If MSF doesn't "cotton" to "that kind of behaviour" it isn't for >> me. I like to pull wheelies, try to do stoppies and take my bike as close to >> the limit as my abilities allow me to. If this were not an option I would >> have no desire to ride a motorcycle. That instructors concerned with safety and teaching new riders would not want a stunt rider in their class should not be an amazing revelation to anyone. >>Anyway, as they say "those who can do and those who can't teach". Cool! So you're a professional motorcycle rider or stunt rider? Tell us all about it. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 08:39:22 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA26434 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:39:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A8878030270; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 08:39:19 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990402083901.012dd010@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 08:39:35 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: SIG line -- fur vs. leather Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Interesting SIG line I came across -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Are people more violently opposed to fur rather than leather because it's much easier to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs? ------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 08:48:12 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA26597 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA17939 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:48:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA18511 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:48:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id IAA19041 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:47:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE7CE5.7BA1F840@XXXXXX>; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:47:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Prevention of being hit from behind . . . Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:47:45 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, I've read the horror stories and will admit it makes me nervous. However, for those out there that have avoided the hit-from-behind scenario, can you without a doubt tell when someone is coming up too fast? I mean, whenever I see a cager coming up behind me, especially in NOVA, it makes me nervous. They don't seem to realize that they don't have to 100mph between each light and that casually going from light to light will save their brakes AND sanity. ;-) (How many NOVA cagers are actually sane, though??) Opinions please . . . . TIA. John 98 VFR From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 08:54:48 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA26686 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:54:47 -0500 (EST) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id 4FHZa02568; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:54:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <897ef4c4.24362603@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:54:11 EST Subject: Re: msf training.. To: cnorloff@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/2/99 8:02:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, cnorloff@XXXXXX writes: << Cool! So you're a professional motorcycle rider or stunt rider? Tell us all about it. >> Well you got me there. I think professional implies positive cash flow so my racing career was certainly amateurish. As far as stunts, well mostly involuntary as a result of racing an H-1 (alternately known as the flexible flyer or flying coffin) for a while . I don't know if I have ridden with you but I can only assume that you are a capable rider, no offense intended in my "those that do..." quote, but it is an often used expression. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 09:11:36 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (web306.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.188]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA26949 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:11:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990402141151.11912.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web306.yahoomail.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 06:11:51 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:11:51 -0800 (PST) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: msf training.. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It may be a flame war Brian, but at least it's a new one... In fact, I think this is the first flame war over the various names of the msf created riders courses and then gravitating into hooliganism at said course that I've ever seen on any of the lists I watch..... We *could* just be rehashing the same ole helmet, oil, HD vs. the world, etc. kind of flame wars :) Collin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 09:28:51 1999 Return-Path: redbelly@XXXXXX Received: from helix.nih.gov (helix.nih.gov [128.231.2.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27286 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:28:49 -0500 (EST) From: redbelly@XXXXXX Received: from lejnarj ([156.40.49.10]) by helix.nih.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA1700160 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:28:47 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: To: Subject: Help with revenge Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:28:11 -0500 Message-ID: <002801be7d15$0aead560$0a31289c@lejnarj.drg.nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Hey, I need some help. I need some good venison, about 4 pounds. I don't care what it costs. The reason I need this is last May 10th I crashed my Hawk hard because of a deer. I still can't ride for at least 3 more weeks. But come hell or high water I will ride that day and I will eat venison and curse that F#%*ing deer. Any help that can be provided will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!! Jay Goddard 89 Hawk (better than new) 98 Triumph 595 (burning a hole in my garage) 85 Interceptor 500 (for sale in 1 week) From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 09:37:56 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27466 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:37:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 433 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:37:50 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990402093247.01a5e3c0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 09:37:49 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Flame Wars In-Reply-To: <19990402141151.11912.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" So - has anyone gathered a list of the hostile flame war topics that tend to erupt here? Let me begin with Collin's list.... Not in order of occurance / frequency 1) The Little Wave 2) I'd rather ride my Honda than haul my Harley 3) Synthetic Oil vs. Dino 4) Helmet Laws 5) Winter riders vs. garage queens 6) Non-MC List Content Any others I am missing? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 09:47:30 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27626 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:47:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2C6P1NPY>; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:43:46 -0500 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F5383F7@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'redbelly@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Help with revenge Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:43:54 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Try this place... http://www.exoticmeats.com/ I've never ordered there before but it looks like they have everything. Glenn Hey, I need some help. I need some good venison, about 4 pounds. I don't care what it costs. The reason I need this is last May 10th I crashed my Hawk hard because of a deer. I still can't ride for at least 3 more weeks. But come hell or high water I will ride that day and I will eat venison and curse that F#%*ing deer. Any help that can be provided will be greatly appreciated. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 09:57:32 1999 Return-Path: david@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27784 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10T5L7-0000Mm-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:54:33 -0500 Received: from manitou.bdanet.com (bdanet.com [209.70.174.3]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01335 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:55:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdanet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:01:20 -0500 Message-ID: <21C53F566655D111845600A0C90D6A260ED861@bdanet.com> From: David Cross To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Tune and test day at Summit Point Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:01:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain > Due to the rain and general wet conditions, I wussed out :( > I went as far as a few miles past Leesburgh this AM, and the rain kept > getting harder the farther west I went, so I bailed and came back > home... Well the day wasn't a total loss. I think I went out in about 7 sessions and about 4 of those were in rain. One was on a completely wet track after the rain stopped and for my last two sessions the track was about 90% dry and I was approaching real race speeds. Everyone seemed to ride with their heads on in the wet as there was only a couple low speed accidents that I witnessed, both in the river that was between turns 7 and 8. The ambulance never came out. There were only about seven riders per session and sometimes fewer so traffic wasn't an issue most of the time. Riding on Summit in the rain is not fun. It is MUCH slicker than riding on the street in the rain. I was crawling around the turns and my tires, front and back, were constantly sliding at very slight lean angles. Rain tires may have helped a little but I cant imagine much more than a little. Back in January I raced at Roebling Road in the rain and the difference was night and day. At Roebling I could ride at about 80% on a wet track and come close to getting a puck down in the high speed sweeper (turn 9). At summit we were riding at about 50% just hoping to stay out of trouble. Overall I was glad I went. I got in a couple of reasonably dry and fast sessions and if I ever have to race in the rain (for points) at least I will know what to expect. Dave Cross WERA & CCS #416am --------------------------- Sponsored by Fast Lane Cycles (703) 818 8890 http://www.fastlanecycles.com --------------------------- 90 FZR400 (race) 94 VFR750 (street) From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 10:03:20 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27885 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:03:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AC2891028E; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:03:04 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990402100029.012a59f0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:02:04 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Flame Wars In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990402093247.01a5e3c0@mail.wheatintl.com> References: <19990402141151.11912.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:37 AM 4/2/99 , Mike Troutman wrote: >So - has anyone gathered a list of the hostile flame war topics >1) The Little Wave >2) I'd rather ride my Honda than haul my Harley >3) Synthetic Oil vs. Dino >4) Helmet Laws >5) Winter riders vs. garage queens >6) Non-MC List Content > >Any others I am missing? 7) Right-angle tire valve stems vs. straight ones. I can't believe the number of times hostile flame wars have broken out over wusses who use right-angle valve stems versus manly men who use straight ones. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 10:04:49 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27917 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:04:48 -0500 (EST) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id oSKLa00642; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:58:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:58:16 EST Subject: Re: Flame Wars To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/2/99 9:48:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: << Any others I am missing? >> 1. Rear brake usage-Very violent flames on this one. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 10:14:43 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28085 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:14:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2CZ3RB9D>; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:14:32 -0800 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Flame Wars Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:14:28 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > > 7) Right-angle tire valve stems vs. straight ones. > > I can't believe the number of times hostile flame wars have > broken out over > wusses who use right-angle valve stems versus manly men who > use straight ones. Funny.. I've never seen either this flame-war topic OR bent valve-stems.. that sounds like a great idea! I'll have to look into them next time I change tires. Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 10:20:28 1999 Return-Path: brown@XXXXXX Received: from tiamat.obscure.org (brown@XXXXXX [199.34.35.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28254 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:20:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from brown@localhost) by tiamat.obscure.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA30096 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:20:24 -0500 From: Dan Brown Message-Id: <199904021520.KAA30096@tiamat.obscure.org> Subject: Re: Flame Wars To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:20:24 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990402100029.012a59f0@mail.toward.com> from "Chris Norloff" at Apr 2, 99 10:02:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >Any others I am missing? > Shooting your handgun with your right hand or your left as you ride... From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 10:20:51 1999 Return-Path: knapik@XXXXXX Received: from smtp7.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp7.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28275 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:20:50 -0500 (EST) From: knapik@XXXXXX Received: from southrelay02.raleigh.ibm.com (southrelay02.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.3.209]) by smtp7.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA63620; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:19:53 -0500 Received: from d54mta02.raleigh.ibm.com (d54mta02.raleigh.ibm.com [9.67.228.34]) by southrelay02.raleigh.ibm.com (8.8.8m2/NCO v1.8) with SMTP id KAA84842; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:19:45 -0500 Received: by d54mta02.raleigh.ibm.com(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 85256747.005431F9 ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:19:38 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: redbelly@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256747.00543095.00@d54mta02.raleigh.ibm.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:19:34 -0500 Subject: Help with revenge Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I know both the Anglers Inn and Serbian Crown both serve venison, you might try them to see if they'll sell you some or where they get it from. Had you been quicker, you could have tried the Montgomery County police when they were cleaning out Brookside Gardens last week. >> Jay Goddard wrote in part >>Hey, >>I need some help. I need some good venison, about 4 pounds. I don't >>care >>what it costs. Regards, Tom Knapik E-mail: knapik@XXXXXX Phone: (301) 803-2417, tie-262-2417 Jay Goddard 89 Hawk (better than new) 98 Triumph 595 (burning a hole in my garage) 85 Interceptor 500 (for sale in 1 week) From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 10:42:23 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28598 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA19203 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:42:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20607 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5-fddi.mcit.com [166.37.204.27]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA10520; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:42:29 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990402154213.GQEL24719@[166.41.242.214]>; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:42:13 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Carver, John" , Subject: RE: Prevention of being hit from behind . . . Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:40:17 -0500 Message-ID: <000301be7d1f$1beede10$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal >(How many NOVA cagers are > actually sane, though??) > > Opinions please . . . . > I'm not. But that's just my opinion ;) T From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 10:42:51 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28608 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:42:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA19209 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:42:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20617 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5.mcit.com [166.37.210.27]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA09459; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:41:42 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990402154212.GQDX24719@[166.41.242.214]>; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:42:12 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Mike T" , Subject: RE: Remotely MC Related - Yahoo Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:40:16 -0500 Message-ID: <000201be7d1f$1b1d8450$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <4.1.19990401234035.00a019d0@www.troutman.org> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal I'm with Mike on this one. I use My Yahoo! as my home page. I've got it set up to track daily stock prices of those I'm interested in, to list news headlines about the telecom industry and any stock IPO's, to list the nightly TV programs, and some sports scoreboards. The thing is, is that you can customize it to your needs. Very cool. Todd > > I can claim this as MC related since dc-cycles has a group area on Yahoo. > Have you all taken a look at what My Yahoo can provide? Their customized > content is incredible. As someone that is online for 14 hours a day > (network administrator) I try to find really valuable information deposits > - and My Yahoo is by far the best. From local movie theater listings, TV > listings, new headlines, Outlook syncable calendar and contact > lists - this > once page replaces a dozen sites I use for current information. > > If you haven't been to the dc-cycles Yahoo group page - check it out. > Although I did notice that this weekend's rides are not posted on > the group > calendar ;-) > > See most of you Saturday in Middleburg..... > > _____________________________________ > Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org > > '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 10:47:06 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28687 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:47:05 -0500 (EST) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id sWXTa14001; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:41:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:41:42 EST Subject: Re: Help with revenge To: knapik@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: redbelly@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/2/99 10:39:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, knapik@XXXXXX writes: << Serbian Crown >> An unfortunate name for a restaurant at this time.:-) Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 10:52:28 1999 Return-Path: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bmdo.mcri.com (root@[207.124.52.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28774 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:52:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from My ([192.168.13.117]) by bmdo.mcri.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA01482 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:54:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199904021554.KAA01482@bmdo.mcri.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John Newman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:53:44 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Flame Wars Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4.1.19990402100029.012a59f0@mail.toward.com> References: <4.1.19990402093247.01a5e3c0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Shaft drive vs. Chain drive Mommyvans & Volvos -John Newman Fzr 400 > At 09:37 AM 4/2/99 , Mike Troutman wrote: > >So - has anyone gathered a list of the hostile flame war topics > >1) The Little Wave > >2) I'd rather ride my Honda than haul my Harley > >3) Synthetic Oil vs. Dino > >4) Helmet Laws > >5) Winter riders vs. garage queens > >6) Non-MC List Content > > > >Any others I am missing? > > > 7) Right-angle tire valve stems vs. straight ones. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 11:11:18 1999 Return-Path: mark.petty@XXXXXX Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29076 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:11:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:05:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Flame Wars Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:05:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain How can anyone forget _appropriate gear for a group ride_ ("and he was wearing tennies!!")? -Mark '83 V65 Magna > Shaft drive vs. Chain drive > Mommyvans & Volvos > > -John Newman > Fzr 400 > > > > At 09:37 AM 4/2/99 , Mike Troutman wrote: > > >So - has anyone gathered a list of the hostile flame war topics > > >1) The Little Wave > > >2) I'd rather ride my Honda than haul my Harley > > >3) Synthetic Oil vs. Dino > > >4) Helmet Laws > > >5) Winter riders vs. garage queens > > >6) Non-MC List Content > > > > > >Any others I am missing? > > > > > > 7) Right-angle tire valve stems vs. straight ones. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 11:19:42 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29253 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:19:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id LAA02957 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE7CFA.8A46DA40@XXXXXX>; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:18:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Richmond Bike show Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:18:27 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just uploaded some pics from the Richmond Bike show. A couple of them turned out a little dark. I will be fixing them, probably next week. In the mean time, check out the award-winning Virginia British Motorcycle Club stand. Nice job, Syke and Patty! pics are here: http://www.erie.net/~mrpink/vbmc/ Rich '78 Triumph Bonneville '99 Enfield Bullet Sterling From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 11:21:31 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29347 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:21:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA20041 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:21:24 -0500 (EST) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21747 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id rZVHa09036; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:15:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:15:52 EST Subject: Re: Prevention of being hit from behind . . . To: jcarver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX no - but I can tell when they're coming too fast to make nervous ... and if they hit you - well, then ya know! ;D I try to put my bike so I can accerlerate forward between cars if needed and if I think they're coming too fast, flash the brake lights and cross my fingers .... (it happened to me once already) Marcy In a message dated 4/2/99 8:52:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, jcarver@XXXXXX writes: > can you without a doubt tell when someone is coming up too > fast? From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 11:28:04 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29463 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:28:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA20153 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:28:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21855 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:27:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10T6m6-0002zQ-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:26:30 -0500 Received: from manitou.bdanet.com (bdanet.com [209.70.174.3]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18427 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:27:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdanet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:33:17 -0500 Message-ID: <21C53F566655D111845600A0C90D6A260ED864@bdanet.com> From: David Cross To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Remotely MC Related - Yahoo Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:33:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain > I'm with Mike on this one. I use My Yahoo! as my home page. > I've got it > set up to track daily stock prices of those I'm interested > in, to list news > headlines about the telecom industry and any stock IPO's, to list the > nightly TV programs, and some sports scoreboards. The thing > is, is that you > can customize it to your needs. Very cool. I was using MY-Yahoo but switched to MY-Excite (www.excite.com). It has been a while since I made the switch and I havent used MY-yahoo since then, but at the time I switched I found my-exite to be more "customizable" and more to my liking. It had been a while like I said so I dont remember too many specifics and perhaps MY-Yahoo has gotten better since I used it, I just thought I would throw that bit of info into the mix. For what its worth, one of the internet trade mags I get rated a bunch of those types of services (just about all the major search engines have them, also netscape and AOL I believe) and they rated my-exite to be the best. Again, that article was several months ago and on the internet lots changes in several months so keep that in mind. I'd be curious to hear if anyone on the list started with my-exite and switched to my-yahoo, and what they thought. Reply to me off list if you think this is too far off topic. Dave Cross WERA & CCS #416am --------------------------- Sponsored by Fast Lane Cycles (703) 818 8890 http://www.fastlanecycles.com --------------------------- 90 FZR400 (race) 94 VFR750 (street) From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 12:57:45 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01252 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:57:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02311 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:57:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:57:36 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: Dc-Cycles Subject: RE: msf training.. In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990402074741.01295130@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Chris Norloff wrote: > When I could get my feet out of the way, I got far enough over with both > the 750 and later the BMW K100 to touch down the engine guards. I was able > to set a few low times, until Collin got warmed up. :-) The bastard! I'll have to bring the CB125 out for the next one... I suspect I'll just be able to peg that thing wide open... :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 13:09:04 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01460 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:09:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2CZ3RD23>; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:09:00 -0800 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: msf training.. Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:08:56 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > The bastard! I'll have to bring the CB125 out for the next one... I > suspect I'll just be able to peg that thing wide open... :) Hey.. if we're allowing non-street legal machinery.. I have a 125 I could bring out.. you DEFINATALLY won't be able to just pin that one.. ;) From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 13:12:38 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web309.yahoomail.com (web310.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA01547 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:12:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990402181516.29163.rocketmail@web309.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web310.yahoomail.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:15:16 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:15:16 -0800 (PST) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: RE: msf training.. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hmmmmm... Hey Brian! Think if I keep the R's up nice and high on that RS125 of yours that it'll be able to handle them small circles OK?? If not, it'd be damn fun on the big circles.... he he he CT --- Kirk Roy wrote: > The bastard! I'll have to bring the CB125 out for the next one... I > suspect I'll just be able to peg that thing wide open... :) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 13:17:05 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01638 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:17:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02693 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:17:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:17:01 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: msf training.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > > The bastard! I'll have to bring the CB125 out for the next one... I > > suspect I'll just be able to peg that thing wide open... :) > > Hey.. if we're allowing non-street legal machinery.. I have a 125 I could > bring out.. you DEFINATALLY won't be able to just pin that one.. ;) Who said the CB isn't street legal? While I have no intention of putting it on the road (at least right now) the bike has all the street gear on it and was a street bike from the start. It'll only pull 45mph or so, in current trim. As for the RS - I guess that punk must've backed out on the RGV trade... Too bad. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 13:21:31 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01758 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:20:50 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" , "'garicao@XXXXXX'" Subject: British bikes and Swedish visitor Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:20:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Garcia Oliver sez, "A visitor from Sweden who rides an old (ca. 1960) BSA would like some help in finding local Brit bike people, parts, swap meets, and/or shows. If you are, have, or know about any of these, please let me know and I'll pass it on to him. Thanks." British Bike Days is an annual event in Maryland (Between Germantown & Damascus) on the Sunday before Memorial Day. Nifty event, even for rice-pasta-kraut rocket riders. Myer's Cycle Engineering (301-897-0050) has parts, advice, good B.S., and sympathy for Brit Bike aficionados. They're in Kensington, MD on Summit (Just north of Knowles, twixt Connecticut & Rockville Pike) Carl in Bethesda From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 13:31:10 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01961 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:31:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA21957 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:31:03 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24857 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id vVUEa02951 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:30:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:30:31 EST Subject: Re: Flame Wars To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: NJitzul@XXXXXX One word... Squids!! Sheesh... I made the mistake of mentioning that word one time! =8^O Robert "Squidly cruiser rider?" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 13:47:28 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02274 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id NAA28834; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:47:24 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id NAA04691; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:47:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:47:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Flame Wars In-Reply-To: <199904021520.KAA30096@tiamat.obscure.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well obviously you would use your left hand so as to maintain a given speed and improve your aim. However if your at a light and in gear than you would have to use your right hand. How could this topic possibly be controversial? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Dan Brown wrote: > > > > > > >Any others I am missing? > > > > > Shooting your handgun with your right hand or your left as you ride... > > > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 14:00:19 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02541 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:00:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA22242 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:00:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA25664 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:00:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id NAA22795; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:59:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:59:43 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: "Carver, John" cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Prevention of being hit from behind . . . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Your first clue is that usually they aren't looking straight ahead (This, of course, doesn't fly at night when you can't see the person). Cager looking for dropped item in passanger seat is rather terrifying as you will see a car with no driver approaching you at a high rate of speed :) In the two experiances I've had with this, one I just knew (evidentally brain was running math calculations as a background task and advised hands to drop clutch and twist throttle). The other one was a conscious decision made very easy once she locked up the breaks (I was already thinking it was bad, that confirmed it and I was gone). Your brain is VERY good at visual processing, and the little voice will start screaming the first instant something doesn't look right. Listen to the little voice :) - Brian On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Carver, John wrote: > Okay, I've read the horror stories and will admit it makes me nervous. > However, for those out there that have avoided the hit-from-behind > scenario, can you without a doubt tell when someone is coming up too > fast? I mean, whenever I see a cager coming up behind me, especially in > NOVA, it makes me nervous. They don't seem to realize that they don't > have to 100mph between each light and that casually going from light to > light will save their brakes AND sanity. ;-) (How many NOVA cagers are > actually sane, though??) > > Opinions please . . . . > > TIA. > > John > 98 VFR > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 14:06:11 1999 Return-Path: mark.petty@XXXXXX Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02644 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:00:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Flame Wars Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:00:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain What, you've never heard of a throttle control? And what of the issue of flying casings getting caught in the wind? -Mark Wednesday I had not one but two cig butts bounce off of my legs on the ride home. Friggin assholes. > -----Original Message----- > From: Hugh A. Caldwell [SMTP:Turnip@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 1:47 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Flame Wars > > > Well obviously you would use your left hand > so as to maintain a given speed and improve your aim. > However if your at a light and in gear than you would > have to use your right hand. How could this topic > possibly be controversial? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Dan Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Any others I am missing? > > > > > > > > > Shooting your handgun with your right hand or your left as you > ride... > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 14:26:00 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02949 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:25:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2CZ3RDZW>; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:25:55 -0800 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Leathers FS.. Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:25:48 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) this is a sweet deal...:) Contact Tony Bell.. not me. From: Vjbracing@XXXXXX Reply-To: 125gp@XXXXXX To: 125gp@XXXXXX Subject: 125gp: Suit for sale Hey guys I hope you wilfor give me, but I have jsu remebered I have leather suit that I have never used. As you know, Kushitani are the best leathers on the plant.This suit was made to measure, but has never been worn, not once. They will fit 5-8'160-170lbs.( passibly150even ) They are same colour and design as the suit Vicky Jackson-Bell wore in 1998. Cost $1,800 a steal at $895. Tony vjbracing From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 15:33:41 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04286 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from anita (tc2-s37.wizard.net [206.161.15.113]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA26147 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:33:51 -0500 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Subject: Tomorrow's Group Ride (VA) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:36:49 -0500 Message-ID: <000101be7d48$886832c0$710fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Looks like weather will be okay.. mostly cloudy, chance of a sprinkle... at least it will be warm! So, the ride is 100% a go... remember, 8:00 AM at Cycle Sport in Springfield, or 10:00 AM at the Exxon in Middleburg. Email me if you have any questions.. I do check email from home. See you tomorrow! Anita From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 16:27:20 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA05315 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A63293D0248; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 16:27:14 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990402162443.012887e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 16:27:31 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: [non-moto] Coast Guard and payment for rescues Cc: cfagan@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Collin - Your Commandant wrote a really good opinion piece in the Washington Post. It seems like it relates somehow to motorcycling, but I'm not sure how! Chris Norloff http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-04/02/044l-040299-idx.ht= ml Condition? Position? Credit Card? Why the Coast Guard won't accept payment for its work. By James M. Loy Friday, April 2, 1999; Page A29=20 When Richard Branson ditched his hot-air balloon off the coast of Hawaii last winter, media coverage focused on the money the Coast Guard spent to pluck the balloonists from the ocean, Branson's great wealth and the Coast Guard's policy of not seeking reimbursement from the people it rescues. Why did the Coast Guard spend so much money to rescue a millionaire thrill-seeker without asking to be paid back? About the same time, the Coast Guard rescued -- as we do every winter -- a number of ice fishermen who found themselves stranded on drifting ice floes. The same questions arose. Shouldn't people who deliberately put themselves at risk reimburse the Coast Guard for the cost of their rescues? Shouldn't people who can afford rescues be asked to pay for them? I oppose seeking reimbursement for any search-and-rescue case. Two very bad things would happen if we opened this Pandora's Box. First, financial considerations would keep people from reporting their conditions and seeking help in the early stages of distress. In the business world, time is money. In the search-and-rescue business, time is life. Just as the fire department wants you to call 911 as soon as you smell smoke in your house, the Coast Guard wants to hear from you as soon as you begin to get concerned about your ability to handle the conditions you're facing on the water. If the specter of financial reimbursement hung over the decision to report maritime distress, we could get fewer calls, we would get calls during later stages of emergencies, and more people would die at sea. This factor alone outweighs any consideration of how much money we might recoup. There is another compelling factor. If we charged for rescues, the Coast Guard would forever battle the possibility of having financial considerations affect our search-planning decisions. We would be endlessly second-guessed. Why did we send that helicopter after the guy who could pay us back but only a small boat after the deckhand on the fishing boat? Are we absolutely sure that reimbursement wasn't a factor? Similarly, it would be impossible to construct an objective test for deciding when people are so wealthy that they ought to bear the cost of their rescues. You'd be surprised what a properly motivated boater really can afford. Presented with the choice of paying for his rescue or drowning, a man treading water in the middle of the ocean would gladly mortgage his house if that's what it takes to be hoisted into the helicopter hovering overhead. However, it is manifestly immoral to associate our humanitarian obligation with the cost of fulfilling it. The Coast Guard values the life of the most destitute immigrant the same as that of the wealthiest adventure seeker. We would devote the same resources to rescue either one, and we have absolutely no interest in distinguishing between them. We assign cutters and aircraft to particular cases based on the nature and location of the distress, not on the status of the person who is in distress. I do not welcome legislative or policy initiatives that might distract my operational commanders from the business of saving lives. The Coast Guard is recognized as a good steward of public funds. That's why the Coast Guard will continue its work to prevent distress situations through public education, requirements for carrying safety equipment and other measures. That's why the Coast Guard will continue to reduce the taxpayer's burden by referring nonemergency cases to commercial towing services when it is appropriate to do so. However, the cost of a few high-profile cases pales before the moral and humanitarian effects of changing the way we respond to the "routine" cases we handle every year with the attendant saving of 4,000 lives. As long as I'm commandant, you won't hear any of my Coast Guard radio operators say, "Roger, sir. I understand you're taking on water and preparing to abandon ship. Can you tell me your position and give me the number of a major credit card?" Adm. Loy is commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard.=20 =A9 Copyright 1999 The Washington Post Company From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 16:30:38 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from ww182.netaddress.usa.net (ww182.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.82]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05431 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:30:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 23798 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Apr 1999 21:30:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402213030.23797.qmail@ww182.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.82 by ww182 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.30) on Fri Apr 2 21:30:30 GMT 1999 Date: 2 Apr 99 16:30:30 EST From: LindaT To: dc Subject: Grace period?? X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.30) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got the tags for my KLR250. Now I have to get the FFX county sticker a= nd the inspection. Do I have to have both of these before I can ride on the= street, or do I have 30 days (or something) to get them done?? Anyone hazard a guess??? LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (53K miles and counting) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/index.html ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 16:46:27 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from ww183.netaddress.usa.net (ww183.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.83]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05708 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:46:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25927 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Apr 1999 21:46:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990402214623.25926.qmail@ww183.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.83 by ww183 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.30) on Fri Apr 2 21:46:23 GMT 1999 Date: 2 Apr 99 16:46:23 EST From: LindaT To: dc Subject: Fwd: [Grace period??] X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.30) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----NetAddressPart-00--=_BVUX0624S834b854570" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------NetAddressPart-00--=_BVUX0624S834b854570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well DUH??? I called FFX police and the nice 'call-taker' said I have n= o grace period on the inspection, but up to 60 (sounded a little hesitant) = days to get the county sticker. OH Well. I got the tags for my KLR250. Now I have to get the FFX county sticker a= nd the inspection. Do I have to have both of these before I can ride on the= street, or do I have 30 days (or something) to get them done?? Anyone hazard a guess??? LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (53K miles and counting) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/index.html ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. ------NetAddressPart-00--=_BVUX0624S834b854570 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Forwarded Message" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from 204.68.24.82 by ww182 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.30) on Fri Apr 2 21:30:30 GMT 1999 Date: 2 Apr 99 16:30:30 EST From: LindaT To: dc Subject: Grace period?? X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.30) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got the tags for my KLR250. Now I have to get the FFX county sticker a= nd the inspection. Do I have to have both of these before I can ride on the= street, or do I have 30 days (or something) to get them done?? Anyone hazard a guess??? LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (53K miles and counting) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/index.html ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. ------NetAddressPart-00--=_BVUX0624S834b854570-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 16:59:53 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA05889 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:59:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from bruce (user78.anent.com [208.195.115.78]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA00812; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 16:54:08 -0500 Message-ID: <002001be7d54$57e801a0$4e73c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "LindaT" , "dc" Subject: Re: Grace period?? Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:01:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 You may have a grace period on the county sticker but not on the inspection. The only exception I can think of would be if you were riding to the inspection station on the brand new tags, but, you may need to have an appointment to prove it to the officer. >I got the tags for my KLR250. Now I have to get the FFX county sticker and >the inspection. Do I have to have both of these before I can ride on the >street, or do I have 30 days (or something) to get them done?? > >Anyone hazard a guess??? > > > >LindaT. >95 F3 Purple Haze (53K miles and counting) >86 KLR250 Klarabelle >http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/index.html From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 17:03:32 1999 Return-Path: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA06007 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:03:31 -0500 (EST) From: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from Lordorange@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.2) id 2MHFa06627 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:01:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:01:13 EST Subject: Track Day June 17th To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Lordorange@XXXXXX Hello all, Loudoun Motorsports in Leesburg, Virginia is sponsoring a track day at Summit Point Raceway on Thursday, June 17th, 1999. The final cost has not been established yet, but the price is expected to come in at less than $120.00 per rider. If you're interested, please contact Loudoun Motorsports at (703) 777-1652 . Not all details have been worked out yet - so they won't be able to answer all questions. However, I have received a good response so you may wish to reserve a spot quickly. The following modifications to your bike will be necessary to get onto the track: Safety wire the oil drain plug, Tape up all glass, lights and speedo, Drain out coolant and replace with distilled water, Proper riding attire - leather race suit preferred, but a leather jacket and 2 pair of pants acceptable My role in all of this is that I am the president of the local bike club (the Appalacian Motorcycle Club) which is sponsored by Loudoun Motorsports. My only goal is to get my own self on the track with all of you and have some fun!! -matt From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 21:01:09 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09872 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from henrywin (dc-csesp50.idsonline.com [207.176.21.50]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA00304 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:00:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: British bikes and Swedish visitor Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:02:46 -0500 Message-ID: <000301be7d76$11480ca0$3215b0cf@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Garcia Oliver sez, "A visitor from Sweden who rides an old (ca. 1960) BSA > would like some help in finding local Brit bike people, parts, swap meets, > and/or shows. If you are, have, or know about any of these, please let me > know and I'll pass it on to him. Thanks." > > British Bike Days is an annual event in Maryland (Between Germantown & > Damascus) > on the Sunday before Memorial Day. Nifty event, even for rice-pasta-kraut > rocket riders. It's been held at Butler's Orchard the past couple of years. Take 270 N to 118 East (Germantown) to 355. Left on 355, then right on 27. Then right on Brink Road and follow the signs. Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 21:11:13 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09966 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:11:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from henrywin (dc-csesp50.idsonline.com [207.176.21.50]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA01376 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:10:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: Grace period?? Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:12:51 -0500 Message-ID: <000401be7d77$79fda9c0$3215b0cf@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990402213030.23797.qmail@ww182.netaddress.usa.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I got the tags for my KLR250. Now I have to get the FFX county > sticker and > the inspection. Do I have to have both of these before I can ride on the > street, or do I have 30 days (or something) to get them done?? > > Anyone hazard a guess??? Why guess? Call the police in your jurisdiction. I'm sure they'll be happy to explain it to you. Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 22:48:09 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (web305.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.187]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11449 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:48:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990403035500.10441.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.112.195] by web305.yahoomail.com; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 19:55:00 PST Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:55:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Is it morning yet??? :) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hope the weather stays as nice tomorrow as it was all day today. Hope to see everyone out on the ride tomorrow... "Pepe the pack Mule" and I will be at the Exxon in Middleburgh plenty early and ready to go! I'm guessing I'll probably tool along in the faster group.. See ya out there in the AM... Collin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 23:00:17 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA11666 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 23:00:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from brn626 (207-172-77-184.s57.as3.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.77.184]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA14616 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 23:00:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000501be7d86$874e5520$b84daccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: See ya in the A.M. Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 23:00:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Can't wait to meet some a few of you from DCCyles. I'll been on the FZR600 w/ most of the stickers removed. See ya in the a.m. Brian N. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 2 23:03:53 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA11676 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 23:03:52 -0500 (EST) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 2DQDa16685 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 23:02:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 23:02:08 EST Subject: Some of this may apply to moto To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: McKeithen@XXXXXX http://members.xoom.com/minimopar/oilfilterstudy.html From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 00:08:42 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA12771 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:08:41 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 2SDNa13545 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:36:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5b249741.243702de@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:36:30 EST Subject: Saturday ride - Cycle Sport Springfield Directions To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Eternity23@XXXXXX Where is it & how di I get there from Sterling? (I can swing the Springfield part...although the particulars of where in Springfield might affect which route I might take. Any info/recommendations will be greatly appreciated!) -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 00:14:56 1999 Return-Path: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (zbig@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA12882 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:14:54 -0500 (EST) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id AAA04026; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:14:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199904030514.AAA04026@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: See ya in the A.M. To: brn626@XXXXXX (Brian N) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:14:48 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <000501be7d86$874e5520$b84daccf@brn626> from "Brian N" at Apr 2, 99 11:00:33 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Btw, if you want to see some of wydymf - http://www.apk.net/zbig/wydy/index.html warning: images are in high-res ( rather large :-) _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 00:36:43 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13291 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id AAA23257; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:36:33 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:36:33 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: Eternity23@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Saturday ride - Cycle Sport Springfield Directions In-Reply-To: <5b249741.243702de@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII CycleSport is on Backlick road near springfield mall. It's in the shopping center where backlick becomes one two-way road instead of two one-way roads (see map at link below - it's the very evident fork in Rt 617) The shopping center and shop are on the west side of the fork. http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?screen=ia-map-result&north=1&uid=u9q201g0u6r5caqq&randon=1114&link=ia-map-result - Brian On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 Eternity23@XXXXXX wrote: > Where is it & how di I get there from Sterling? (I can swing the Springfield > part...although the particulars of where in Springfield might affect which > route I might take. Any info/recommendations will be greatly appreciated!) > > -Sean Jordan > From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 00:36:54 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13301 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:36:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA29185 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:36:48 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA10565 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:36:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vDEZa06167 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:35:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19fa1a50.243702ab@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 00:35:39 EST Subject: Re: See ya in the A.M. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: NJitzul@XXXXXX Just wanted to wish you all a fun and safe ride! I finally got the "Black Wolf" back, but I have a prior commitment to be a motor marshall for a bicycle race. Is it too early to set up a group ride for next Saturday? Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 05:31:45 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web311.yahoomail.com (web311.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.107]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA21375 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 05:31:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990403103237.21137.rocketmail@web311.yahoomail.com> Received: from [216.70.70.56] by web311.yahoomail.com; Sat, 03 Apr 1999 02:32:37 PST Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 02:32:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Saturday ride - Cycle Sport Springfield Directions To: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >From the Beltway heading to the Woodrow Wilson Bridge, take Braddock Road (Exit 5) East. At the intersection with Backlick (approx one mile or so), turn right. After a spell, it becomes a one way road. Then it becomes Amherst. You'll pass some lights, go up over a bridge (Old Keene Mill) and down again. then it will veer to the left to rejoin Backlick. You'll see a Texaco on the right. Turn left (actually going back onto Backlick, in the other direction). Cycle Sports will be on your right in the shopping center. You should see the Yamaha sign. Have fun, I'll be teaching at Alexandria today. Louis --- Eternity23@XXXXXX wrote: > Where is it & how di I get there from Sterling? (I can swing the Springfield > part...although the particulars of where in Springfield might affect which > route I might take. Any info/recommendations will be greatly appreciated!) > > -Sean Jordan > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 18:47:23 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03427 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta2.mcit.com (omta2.mcit.com [166.37.204.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id XAA11519 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:46:23 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.44.172.57]) by omta2.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990403234651.DLZK31194@toddnt> for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:46:51 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: DC-Cycles First Ride! Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:44:46 -0500 Message-ID: <000701be7e2b$f4cb4bd0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal >From under a cover of early morning clouds, the DC-Cycles from Springfield to Middleburg contingent made their winding way. For a total of 67 miles eight early risers tested their steeds on roads that passed through the more glamorous of the citified horse country in Northern Virginy. A couple were dusting off the old cobwebs, but all were smiling ear to ear upon arrival. We were on our way to meet, greet and have some fun. A WHOLE lot of riders showed up for this, the first DC-Cycles ride of the season. Not quite as many as one particular day in 1998. Anita has the nose-count and will undoubtedly post it. Organizing this large of a ride is difficult to say the least. We tried something new today; a medium paced group. It seemed to work out pretty well as riders experimented with their abilities within each of their chosen groups and more or less sifted to the one they wanted to be in as the day grew sunny. We did have one unfortunate incident. Dave Wakefield Sr. went wide into a left sweeping embankment. He seemed well enough though his EX500's forks were slightly bent. After a fashion, Dave agreed it'd be best to try and ride home. Hope you're OK Dave. I don't know what the exact mileage was from Springfield out and back was, but I'm guessing close to 300. And they were 300 miles of 95% quality (as judged by road conditions, twisties and the all to occasional grins;). Zepp road, though potentially a scream, was patched over with that tiny crushed gravel used to build traction in the snow. Can you say, "Pucker"? Kudos to Anita for suggesting one of the old PARR poker runs. This is one I will try again later this summer, once Zepp road has a chance to be washed by a few good downpours. Lastly, it was very nice to have met some of the recent additions to DC-Cycles. If the turn out today can be considered a good sample of the whole, we are definitely more of a sport-bike crowd. Todd From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 18:57:07 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03579 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:57:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta2.mcit.com (omta2.mcit.com [166.37.204.3]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id XAA09051; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:52:15 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.44.172.57]) by omta2.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990403235533.DMEP31194@toddnt>; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:55:33 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Zbigniew J. Tyrlik" , "Brian N" Cc: Subject: RE: See ya in the A.M. Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:53:28 -0500 Message-ID: <000801be7e2d$2b95ac90$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <199904030514.AAA04026@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Zbig, Very nice pictures, though that Todd dude sure could use a haircut. Next time, hand the camara to someone else so they can take YOUR picture too ;) Hope you guys had a good ride today, with no unforseen mishaps. DC-Cycles had a blast. And with Collin Fagen pulling wheelies on that clap-trap Maxim, there was some added comedy relief as well! Todd > > > Btw, if you want to see some of wydymf - > http://www.apk.net/zbig/wydy/index.html > > > warning: images are in high-res ( rather large :-) > > _zjt > -- > ******************************************************************** > Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX > Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... > From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 19:35:35 1999 Return-Path: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (zbig@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA04195 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:35:30 -0500 (EST) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id TAA04512; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:35:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199904040035.TAA04512@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: See ya in the A.M. To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX (Todd Peer) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:35:04 -0500 (EST) Cc: zbig@XXXXXX, brn626@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <000801be7e2d$2b95ac90$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> from "Todd Peer" at Apr 3, 99 06:53:28 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > Zbig, > > Very nice pictures, though that Todd dude sure could use a haircut. Next > time, hand the camara to someone else so they can take YOUR picture too ;) > I was not there, only my camera :-). > Hope you guys had a good ride today, with no unforseen mishaps. > DC-Cycles had a blast. And with Collin Fagen pulling wheelies on that > clap-trap Maxim, there was some added comedy relief as well! > Same here. no damage except some not too well fitted underwear causing one of the riders to stop from time to time and perform a dance on the road. We departed from marshalls, via flint hill to 211. Fog, fog so dense that we have to open visors - there was no way to ride with closed visor; visibility about 20-50 feet. We took a breather on top, and then found that on west side was nice sunny weather. Ok, so via 715/648 to 55, 55 west for a lunch in Wardenswille; then 29 to Augusta, 29 north to Stainsville. We planned to get to Oldtown, but I managed to lost the route - and we ended in Cumberland. Well, we took 51 back to 9, and fought traffic all the way back. Total: 10-11 hours , depending on who from where. My mileage - 360 miles. 8 bikes... 2 x CBR900RR 1 x Yama R1 1 x Yama VMax 1 x CBR 1100 XX 1 x CBR 600F2 2 x VFR 750. _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 19:36:54 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA04210 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:36:53 -0500 (EST) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 2QQHa16315 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:36:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:36:08 EST Subject: Re: See ya in the A.M. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX There was also a ride in Maryland organized by Brad who brought his brand new CBR-600F4 and a couple of friends riding among other things a Monster 900. Brian Lasalle on his Night Hawk with after market pipes this year was there too. He is much louder but not much faster, needs a jet kit I think. Did the usual roads and had lunch and ice cream in Annapolis. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 20:45:01 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA05201 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:45:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from brn626 (207-172-77-72.s9.as2.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.77.72]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA18754 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:44:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001d01be7e3c$cd709e80$484daccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Great Ride-Thanks Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:45:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 To all you DCCycle riders, today was most enjoyable. First real long cruise on my FZR since I purchased last year. Upper body is pretty sore since I've been riding the lounge chair most of the winter. See ya all soon. Brian N. 96 Yamaha 600 PS Thanks Anita tolerating the slow guy. From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 20:49:01 1999 Return-Path: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA05300 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:49:00 -0500 (EST) From: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from JimJacks@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 2JFQa09763 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:47:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:47:25 EST Subject: 4/03/99 Middleburg. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Reply-To: JimJacks@XXXXXX Hi all, Jim here, a new guy (black zx11) Just wanted to say that this was my first group sex thing and you all kiss real nice! Had a great time, loved the route, felt tested and at ease at the same time, had a few 100mph plus sprints in between, and stretched my seat leather a bit with sphincter crunches on that dusty curvy road, loved checking out all the iron, and meeting all of you who I will surely not remember names, but faces I got. Nice folks, no injuries! I am ready to go again! Thanks for having me, and especially thanks to Anita for all of the patient emailing! What a hoot! -Jim From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 20:52:12 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA05379 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA09651 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:52:08 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA29117 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:52:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id vTAHa22186 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:51:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <87937dab.24381fab@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:51:39 EST Subject: RE: DC-Cycles First Ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: NJitzul@XXXXXX Thus spake Todd: "If the turn out today can be considered a good sample of the whole, we are definitely more of a sport-bike crowd." I have two good pics (the bikes wouldn't all fit in one pic!) from that huge group ride at the end of the season last year that shows just how much of a "sport-bike crowd" DC-Cycles is. The cruisers in the pics really stick out! But hey, at least the rides are more interesting than the local Shadow Club chapter's (get on the highway and ride until food/gas/rest is needed). And the parties are better too! ;) BTW, glad to hear that the ride was basically uneventful, and I hope Dave Wakefield Sr. is ok, and his bike gets fixed soon! Robert "just cruisin" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 22:13:17 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06541 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:13:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id DAA00925; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 03:13:03 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.44.166.238]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990404031247.FHVJ20027@toddnt>; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:12:47 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: RE: See ya in the A.M. Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:10:43 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01be7e48$ba2255b0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Excellent! DC-Cycles out in FORCE! > > There was also a ride in Maryland organized by Brad who brought > his brand new > CBR-600F4 and a couple of friends riding among other things a > Monster 900. > Brian Lasalle on his Night Hawk with after market pipes this year > was there > too. He is much louder but not much faster, needs a jet kit I think. > > Did the usual roads and had lunch and ice cream in Annapolis. > Ciao, > > Fred > From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 22:13:21 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06543 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:13:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id DAA11798; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 03:09:37 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.44.166.238]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990404031252.FHVL20027@toddnt>; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:12:52 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: RE: 4/03/99 Middleburg. Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:10:48 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01be7e48$bcd67930$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Hey Jim (and ever-body else), just remember, a steak and/or BBQ at the end of a good day is icing on the cake! Todd > > Hi all, Jim here, a new guy (black zx11) > Just wanted to say that this was my first group sex thing and you > all kiss > real nice! > Had a great time, loved the route, felt tested and at ease at the > same time, > had a few 100mph plus sprints in between, and stretched my seat > leather a bit > with sphincter crunches on that dusty curvy road, loved checking > out all the > iron, and meeting all of you who I will surely not remember > names, but faces > I got. Nice folks, no injuries! I am ready to go again! > Thanks for having me, and especially thanks to Anita for all of > the patient > emailing! > What a hoot! > -Jim > > From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 22:14:31 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06546 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id DAA10571; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 03:09:29 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.44.166.238]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990404031245.FHVI20027@toddnt>; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:12:45 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Zbigniew J. Tyrlik" Cc: , Subject: RE: See ya in the A.M. Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:10:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01be7e48$b7c83910$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <199904040035.TAA04512@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > > Same here. no damage except some not too well fitted underwear causing > one of the riders to stop from time to time and perform a dance on the > road. That sound like Tom G.. Guy always seems to be wearing his undies too tight ;) > 1 x CBR 600F2 Alright Bruce!! T From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 3 22:55:42 1999 Return-Path: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (root@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA07195 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:55:41 -0500 (EST) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA04701; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:52:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199904040352.WAA04701@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: See ya in the A.M. To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX (Todd Peer) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:52:51 -0500 (EST) Cc: zbig@XXXXXX, brn626@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <000a01be7e48$b7c83910$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> from "Todd Peer" at Apr 3, 99 10:10:39 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > > Same here. no damage except some not too well fitted underwear causing > > one of the riders to stop from time to time and perform a dance on the > > road. > > That sound like Tom G.. Guy always seems to be wearing his undies too tight > ;) > Bzzzz... Thanks for playing. next please... _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 09:16:33 1999 Return-Path: MJordan666@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15924 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 09:16:31 -0400 (EDT) From: MJordan666@XXXXXX Received: from MJordan666@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 2SBNa16956 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 09:15:28 -0500 (EDT) Message-ID: <9de03c04.2438bff0@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 09:15:28 EDT Subject: Re: DC-Cycles First Ride! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: MJordan666@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/3/99 19:54:56 Eastern Daylight Time, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: << Kudos to Anita for suggesting one of the old PARR poker runs. This is one I will try again later this summer, once Zepp road has a chance to be washed by a few good downpours >> Todd said it pretty well - a very nice way to kick off the season. If anyone's interested, I have the route in Street Atlas 6 and will e-mail it to anyone who is interested. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 10:03:27 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA16552 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 10:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc1-s19.wizard.net [206.161.15.49]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA09730 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 10:03:24 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Subject: RE: DC-Cycles First Ride! Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 10:06:32 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01be7ea4$57cde440$310fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000701be7e2b$f4cb4bd0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Peer [mailto:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 6:45 PM > A WHOLE lot of riders showed up for this, the first DC-Cycles ride of the > season. Not quite as many as one particular day in 1998. Anita has the > nose-count and will undoubtedly post it. I believe we had 28 riders start out from the Exxon in Middleburg. Besides Dave, I know at least one other rider had to drop out due to mechanical problems with his bike. Coleman Powersports strikes again! So, we were 10 short of the official record, but we might have to wait for another 70 degree day in Nov/Dec to top that one! > Organizing this large of a ride is difficult to say the least. We tried > something new today; a medium paced group. It worked out very well for myself, Ursulina and Brian N.. by the time the medium and fast groups took off from Middleburg, we were the only ones left for the "slow group!" It was pretty funny. But, it was nice just keeping track of two headlights in my mirrors... up until the point where I looked back and saw the fast group *behind* us... guess it can be hard to read a route sheet while travelling at warp speed! :-) The weather wasn't bad at all.. started out kind of iffy, but when I saw "75 degrees" on a bank clock in Strasburg, I knew it was going to be okay. Definitely a ton of new faces... I still think we should all get patches or name tags made with our names and email addresses on them... too hard to figure out who's who! :-) Overall I had a *great* time... when's the next one? :-) Anita 1996 GPZ1100 (no cobwebs now!) From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 12:10:16 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA18396 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 12:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user98.anent.com [208.195.115.98]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA01828; Sun, 04 Apr 1999 12:04:33 -0400 Message-ID: <001301be7eb5$d8b56720$6273c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "Todd Peer" Cc: Subject: Re: See ya in the A.M. Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 12:11:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 >> Same here. no damage except some not too well fitted underwear causing >> one of the riders to stop from time to time and perform a dance on the >> road. > >That sound like Tom G.. Guy always seems to be wearing his undies too >tight ;) It's a T but not a G. ;-) >> 1 x CBR 600F2 Man, that F2 ROCKS! I felt way more comfortable in fast turns than on the VFR. I think I was going much faster than on previous rides. It's got me thinking F4. =:-O > >Alright Bruce!! > >T From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 13:45:53 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA19821 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:45:51 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id NAA19968; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:47:03 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma019951; Sun, 4 Apr 99 13:46:06 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9O0077AEQIDV@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256749.0061716C ; Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:44:20 -0400 Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 13:38:39 -0400 Subject: New Superhawk! (Seca II now Sold) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256749.005FC798.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hi all. If anyone was wondering why I wasn't on the ride on Saturday with my Seca II (I doubt it), it was because I was at Loudon Motorsports buying my new '98 Honda VTR1000F Superhawk!!! WOOHOO! The place was really packed, but the folks there did a good job of keeping me happy. Everyone at that shop seemed very forthright and honest, and it was genuinely a pleasant experience. I highly recommend them to others looking to buy a new bike. Man, that girl is a real blast to ride. Even keeping the revs under 6000 (break-in), there was still enough power to drop my jaw and then cause it to grow into a huge grin. The v-twin pulsing is pretty cool too, but my hands have started getting numb pretty quick... Maybe foam grip time. I found myself just loping along and then looking at the speedo and being shocked by the speed that was indicated. The VTR and Seca II are so different, it's hard to even consider them the same mode of transportation. The VTR is far more stable than the Seca, albeit a bit harder to turn. The riding position seems pretty extreme after coming off of the Seca, but I'll probably get used to it. I think I'll get a set of bar risers, though. Wind buffetting is much less on the VTR, and I found that high-speed riding was much more comfortable. The VTR also inspires a lot more confidence when leaned over than the Seca did. Anyway, I thought I'd share my new pride and joy with everyone. I'm looking forward to joining the next group ride on the Superchicken! Chris Weaver '98 VTR1000F (I love this new sig!) From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 14:01:35 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA20041 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 4 Apr 1999 18:01:33 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA26770 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:01:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New Superhawk! (Seca II now Sold) In-Reply-To: <85256749.005FC798.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > Hi all. > > If anyone was wondering why I wasn't on the ride on Saturday with my Seca > II (I doubt it), it was because I was at Loudon Motorsports buying my new > '98 Honda VTR1000F Superhawk!!! WOOHOO! The place was really packed, but > the folks there did a good job of keeping me happy. Everyone at that shop > seemed very forthright and honest, and it was genuinely a pleasant > experience. I highly recommend them to others looking to buy a new bike. > > Man, that girl is a real blast to ride. Even keeping the revs under 6000 > (break-in), there was still enough power to drop my jaw and then cause it > to grow into a huge grin. The v-twin pulsing is pretty cool too, but my > hands have started getting numb pretty quick... Maybe foam grip time. I > found myself just loping along and then looking at the speedo and being > shocked by the speed that was indicated. > > The VTR and Seca II are so different, it's hard to even consider them the > same mode of transportation. The VTR is far more stable than the Seca, > albeit a bit harder to turn. The riding position seems pretty extreme after > coming off of the Seca, but I'll probably get used to it. I think I'll get > a set of bar risers, though. Wind buffetting is much less on the VTR, and I > found that high-speed riding was much more comfortable. The VTR also > inspires a lot more confidence when leaned over than the Seca did. > > Anyway, I thought I'd share my new pride and joy with everyone. I'm looking > forward to joining the next group ride on the Superchicken! > > Chris Weaver > '98 VTR1000F (I love this new sig!) Good to hear! I'm very close to picking up a VTR myself. I hear nothing but good things about them, and used ones go very cheaply (to the tune of 6k), so it looks like a pretty solid financial as well as riding deal. Any naysayers on the list? Figured I'd get you folks opinion before I went out and splurged.. most people see it as the 'friendliest' v-twin, and slightly more squidly than a comparable VFR. Not as comfortable, but still pretty decent, as sportbikes go. Torque everywhere, but not as nuts as a TL. Biggest bitch I've heard is that it has absolute crap for fuel range. 120 miles or so. That would get annoying, but I dont know if that really factors into my decision.. a great bike is a great bike, shitty fuel tank nonwithstanding. Am I mistaken? I'm almost scared to venture into the 'is this too much for someone with a little over a year of riding under their belt' topic.. because that starts flame wars pretty consistently.. but figured I'll throw that one out too. Anyone who manages to get militant over that one, can go piss somewhere else :P Alex. From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 14:03:09 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20049 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:03:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-106-2.s65.as1.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.106.2]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09857 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904041809.OAA09857@smtp2.erols.com> From: "D. Thompson" To: Subject: VTR Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:03:43 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris wrote: If anyone was wondering why I wasn't on the ride on Saturday with my Seca II (I doubt it), it was because I was at Loudon Motorsports buying my new '98 Honda VTR1000F Superhawk!!! WOOHOO Congrats! I hope you love it and enjoy it. Stay safe! Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 14:18:32 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20275 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:18:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id aLXEa13757; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:38:58 -0500 (EDT) Message-ID: <1f09b16f.24390bc2@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:38:58 EDT Subject: Re: New Superhawk! (Seca II now Sold) To: alexm@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/4/99 2:26:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, alexm@XXXXXX writes: << Am I mistaken? I'm almost scared to venture into the 'is this too much for someone with a little over a year of riding under their belt' topic.. because that starts flame wars pretty consistently.. but figured I'll throw that one out too. >> You really can't go wrong with a Honda, high quality etc. With only a year of riding experience I think it is a good choice. With a little more experience I would probably recommend the TL-R as it is the one that gets the closest to the Ducati in the tests I have read. Mind you, the testers always seem to prefer the Ducati in V-Twin only tests (when tested with the lightweight in-line 4 open-classers it's another story) They will soon have the Aprilia Mille to reckon with, it promises Ducati performance at close to Japanese prices. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 14:24:27 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20420 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:24:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-106-2.s65.as1.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.106.2]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14066 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904041831.OAA14066@smtp2.erols.com> From: "D. Thompson" To: Subject: Re: DC-Cycles First Ride! Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:24:51 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It was a great time, and I was really glad to get to meet some of you and put a couple of names with faces. Look forward to the next get-together. Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 17:23:54 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA23195 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 17:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA20401 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 17:23:50 -0400 (EDT) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA10496 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 17:23:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id pVDTa11522; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 17:22:25 -0500 (EDT) Message-ID: <25088ad8.24393211@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 17:22:25 EDT Subject: More trouble on the TLR front.... To: tl1000s@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Ok, just got everything fixed on my tlr enough to get it back on the road and riding. I took it up to my work to charge up the battery since its been sitting for about 2 months with no juice. The bike turned over a couple times with the charger on it, but wouldnt start. I let it sit for a half hour with the charger set on 70amps with the bike off to get it charged up faster. Anyway, my eagerness got to me when I tured on the ignition with that much juice flowing through. It blew out my low beams on my bike and now the ecu is ticking somewhat. the bike still turns on like normal, but I still havent had any luck starting it. so, if anyone has any input, besides that Im a dumbass, I would appreciate it. Sean.... From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 19:38:17 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA25215 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:38:15 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id cVAIa23483; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:36:26 -0500 (EDT) Message-ID: <8b7e4b2.2439517a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:36:26 EDT Subject: Re: DC-Cycles First Ride! To: 2xracers@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/4/1999 10:10:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 2xracers@XXXXXX writes: << I still think we should all get patches or name tags made with our names and email addresses on them... too hard to figure out who's who! :-) Overall I had a *great* time... when's the next one? :-) Anita 1996 GPZ1100 (no cobwebs now!) >> Sorry I couldn't attend. I would have been the third set of lights in your mirror Anita. :-) My sister and bro-in-law moved out last weekend and I went to their place this weekend to help put on the finishing touches. Since we now have a logo and t-shirts on the way, DC-Cycles stickers & patches with our names on them shouldn't be that hard. BTW, when will the shirts be ready? The EXUP list that I'm on printed some personalized stickers last year for us. I've got it on my bike. Real easy to spot a "Scooter" sticker. :-) Maybe next time. Scooter "Some-assembly-required" From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 19:54:26 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA25440 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:54:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from henrywin (dc-csesp25.idsonline.com [207.176.21.25]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA16237 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:53:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: More trouble on the TLR front.... Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:56:05 -0400 Message-ID: <000001be7ef6$b3f53a00$1915b0cf@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <25088ad8.24393211@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > hour with the charger set on 70amps with the bike off to get it > charged up > faster. Anyway, my eagerness got to me when I tured on the ignition with > that much juice flowing through. It blew out my low beams on my > bike and now > the ecu is ticking somewhat. the bike still turns on like normal, > but I still > havent had any luck starting it. so, if anyone has any input, > besides that Im > a dumbass, I would appreciate it. > > Sean.... Well, Sean, you said it, not me. You should NEVER, EVER charge a motorcycle battery with anything but a motorcycle charger. That includes trying to jump start of a car. If you must, turn the car off and use its battery for an electrical source, but do NOT have the car running. Anyway for what it's worth: I always find that when I'm in a hurry, no matter what it is I'm trying to do, things get messed up. Its possible you fried your electronics and your electrics--but I hope not. If it were me (and thank goodness it isn't :-) )I'd want to check the entire electrical system by somebody who knows what they are doing. Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 20:23:12 1999 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm01sm.pmm.cw.net (pm01sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.150]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA25914 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:23:10 -0400 (EDT) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by PM01SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35315) id <0F9O00001X1PZH@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:22:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr50-dialup225.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.196.231]) by PM01SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35315) with SMTP id <0F9O00HGJX1N1V@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 00:22:37 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:22:36 +0000 Subject: Re: More trouble on the TLR front.... To: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX, DC Cycles Message-id: <001301be7ed8$e1c56b80$e7c43ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sean, Take it to a dealership and act innocent. Warranty should take of everything, especially if you act pissed. Put up a fight and never let them know it was your fault. You'd be surprised how much bitching and moaning will work when it comes to warranty issues..... Jon >Ok, just got everything fixed on my tlr enough to get it back on the road and >riding. I took it up to my work to charge up the battery since its been >sitting for about 2 months with no juice. The bike turned over a couple >times with the charger on it, but wouldnt start. I let it sit for a half >hour with the charger set on 70amps with the bike off to get it charged up >faster. Anyway, my eagerness got to me when I tured on the ignition with >that much juice flowing through. It blew out my low beams on my bike and now >the ecu is ticking somewhat. the bike still turns on like normal, but I still >havent had any luck starting it. so, if anyone has any input, besides that Im >a dumbass, I would appreciate it. > >Sean.... From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 20:29:23 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm05sm.pmm.cw.net (pm05sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.154]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA25992 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35323) id <0F9O00101XC0GT@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:28:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr50-dialup225.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.196.231]) by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35323) with SMTP id <0F9O002PWXBV71@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 00:28:48 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 20:28:44 +0000 From: Jon Subject: pics added To: DC Cycles Message-id: <001501be7ed9$bec16160$e7c43ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal I added a few pics to the DC Riders Yahoo site under "Rides and Events" if anyone is interested. These pics are from that last Dec. ride where about 30+ showed up. Jon 92 FZR600 "bumblebee" My lame attempt at a web page: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Lane/9213/index.html From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 20:52:51 1999 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA26371 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:52:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (a0167.chantilly.mns.net [206.239.104.199]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA06365; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:52:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37082698.403B@mnsinc.com> Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 19:57:28 -0700 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles CC: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Subject: re: New Superhawk! (Seca II now Sold) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX > Hi all. --> snip <-- > The VTR and Seca II are so different, it's hard to even consider them the > same mode of transportation. The VTR is far more stable than the Seca, > albeit a bit harder to turn. The riding position seems pretty extreme after > coming off of the Seca, but I'll probably get used to it. I think I'll get > a set of bar risers, though. Wind buffetting is much less on the VTR, and I > found that high-speed riding was much more comfortable. The VTR also > inspires a lot more confidence when leaned over than the Seca did. Nice bike. Congrats Chris. I was seriously considering one of these before I finally made a decision and got my newish '95 VFR a little while ago. Rode 400 miles yesterday, loved it. This VFR is so sublime. The VTR will have to be an eventual addition for me - and not a replacement ! JK From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 20:57:30 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA26448 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-231.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.231]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA07222 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:57:23 -0400 Message-ID: <016501be7eff$2f935ea0$e7a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: A package deal on a cruiser -- Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:56:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0162_01BE7EDD.A7C17BE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0162_01BE7EDD.A7C17BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From the Vulcan list -- http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D85379507 (posted by a lady rider for the guys) Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> Known to bid Join the AMA. 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------=_NextPart_000_0162_01BE7EDD.A7C17BE0-- From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 22:21:43 1999 Return-Path: lmeyer@XXXXXX Received: from mail1.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe1.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.48]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA27694 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mgfairfax.rr.com ([24.93.71.239]) by mail1.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:17:40 -0400 Message-ID: <37081EAF.85A3A286@mgfairfax.rr.com> Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:23:44 -0400 From: Larry Meyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC-Cycles First Ride! References: <000b01be7ea4$57cde440$310fa1ce@anita> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anita Lauro wrote: > Definitely a ton of new faces... I still think we should all get patches or > name tags made with our names and email addresses on them... too hard to > figure out who's who! :-) > > Overall I had a *great* time... when's the next one? :-) > > Anita > 1996 GPZ1100 (no cobwebs now!) I was one of the newbies, and I can't remember a better ride or a better group of people. Can't wait to do it again. To help us new folks, how about if the people who showed up posted their names, the bikes they were on, and maybe what they were wearing. It'll give me something to study during the seemingly unending string of weekdays (ugh) before I can really ride again. Thanks again, especially to Anita, Todd, and Collin, for the great time. Larry Meyer Annandale VA '97 Bandit 1200, blue Blue Aerostitch Roadcrafter From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 22:36:22 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA27929 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2C6P171Z>; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:33:40 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F538410@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'zbig@XXXXXX'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: See ya in the A.M. Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:33:42 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Come on now get it right... 1 x VFR800FI and 1 VFR750 Glenn > 8 bikes... > > 2 x CBR900RR > 1 x Yama R1 > 1 x Yama VMax > 1 x CBR 1100 XX > 1 x CBR 600F2 > 2 x VFR 750. > > From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 4 23:03:41 1999 Return-Path: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (zbig@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA28346 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:03:39 -0400 (EDT) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id XAA05468; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904050303.XAA05468@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: See ya in the A.M. To: Dysart@XXXXXX (Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Cc: zbig@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F538410@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> from "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" at Apr 4, 99 10:33:42 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > Come on now get it right... > > 1 x VFR800FI > > and 1 VFR750 > > Glenn > Sorry, was unable to see a difference in my mirrors.. :-) > > > 8 bikes... > > > > 2 x CBR900RR > > 1 x Yama R1 > > 1 x Yama VMax > > 1 x CBR 1100 XX > > 1 x CBR 600F2 > > 2 x VFR 750. > > > > > _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 07:24:36 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07066 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AD706A701BC; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 07:24:32 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990405072317.01298af0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 07:24:50 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Virago 535 for sale Cc: evan@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My stepson is selling his bike: YAMAHA '94 Virago 535 Special, 5,000 mi., burgundy & chrome, beautiful, $3,800/obo, 703-595-5237, evan@XXXXXX Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 07:43:55 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07364 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2HLSN70Y>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 04:43:31 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: strong-arm.. Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 04:43:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Well then, any chance I can get someone with muscle to come over to my house and help me extract my frame from the engine that's sitting beneath it? Basically, we'd just need to lift the front end about 2" and rotate the bike 90degrees (it's not THAT heavy.. I did it alone when I was without cast/bum shoulder). I dropped the engine but I'm incapable of freeing it completely. Yes, I am still wrenching on my bike even though I'm injured.. gotta pass the time somehow, and I can't ride.. seems like a logical thing to do. Oh, and it'd be great if I could get the help tonight or tomorrow.. I live right by College Park, MD (that's where 95 hits 495 at the top of the beltway. I'm free and at home from 4:30pm on.. and can be reached via e-mail till 3:30, 301.445.4451 after 4:30. Thanks in advance.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 07:50:36 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07522 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer (207-172-53-39.s39.tnt4.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.53.39]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA18518 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:50:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "LindaT" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: DC-Cycles First Ride! Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:53:16 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01be7f5a$e43ade40$208eaccf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37081EAF.85A3A286@mgfairfax.rr.com> Sure, Linda Tanner Grey roadcrafter riding a turquoise F3 LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (54K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ Larry Meyer asked: To help us new folks, how about if the people who showed up posted their names, the bikes they were on, and maybe what they were wearing. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 08:15:15 1999 Return-Path: nomad98@XXXXXX Received: from web118.yahoomail.com (web118.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA07900 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:15:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990405121608.1689.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.108.10.1] by web118.yahoomail.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 05:16:08 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:16:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Nomad Subject: RE: DC-Cycles First Ride! To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sure, Herb Manell Arlington, Va Black Motoport Jacket/ 1/2 Helmet Black '94 Magna and Arrest me Red 98VFR800 Demo Ride Thanks to Hugh C. (Now lusting for a Sport Bike) --- LindaT wrote: > Sure, > Linda Tanner > Grey roadcrafter > riding a turquoise F3 > > LindaT. > 95 F3 Purple Haze (54K miles and counting...) > 86 KLR250 Klarabelle > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ > > Larry Meyer asked: > To help us new folks, how about if the people who showed up posted their > names, > the bikes they were on, and maybe what they were wearing. > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 08:41:35 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08224 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2BRSZ685>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:46:21 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC8B6@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: Dc-Cycles Subject: RE: British bikes and Swedish visitor Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:39:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Actually, it's even easier these days. Go one exit further on I-270, to Father Hurley Blvd. Take it towards the East (bear right) and when it intersects MD 355 it becomes MD 27. After crossing 355, go through first light (flashing?) and the next intersection is Brink Road. Bottom of the hill, make the first left and follow the signs to Butler Orchard. > -----Original Message----- > From: Henry S. Winokur [SMTP:henwin@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 9:03 PM > To: Dc-Cycles > Subject: RE: British bikes and Swedish visitor > > > Garcia Oliver sez, "A visitor from Sweden who rides an old (ca. 1960) > BSA > > would like some help in finding local Brit bike people, parts, swap > meets, > > and/or shows. If you are, have, or know about any of these, please let > me > > know and I'll pass it on to him. Thanks." > > > > British Bike Days is an annual event in Maryland (Between Germantown & > > Damascus) > > on the Sunday before Memorial Day. Nifty event, even for > rice-pasta-kraut > > rocket riders. > > It's been held at Butler's Orchard the past couple of years. Take 270 N > to > 118 East (Germantown) to 355. Left on 355, then right on 27. Then right > on > Brink Road and follow the signs. > > Henry S. Winokur > '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 > AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor > West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 08:42:49 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA08298 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id FAA01176 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:42:40 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:42:40 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: DC-Cycles First Ride! Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:42:37 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >To help us new folks, how about if the people who showed up >posted their names, >the bikes they were on, and maybe what they were wearing. >It'll give me >something to study during the seemingly unending string of >weekdays (ugh) before >I can really ride again. Michael Jordan Sterling, VA Black Suzuki GSX 1100G (with GiVi topcase) Black leather jacket, jeans and BRIGHT orange helmet. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 08:44:23 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08308 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-109-211.s20.as4.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.109.211]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07707; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904051244.IAA07707@smtp1.erols.com> From: "D. Thompson" To: , "Nomad" Subject: Re: DC-Cycles First Ride! Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:44:55 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can play... Danny Thompson Black Fieldsheer , gray helmet see below :) ....by the way, Herb, you might as well give in to the "Force" now. The sooner you do it the happier you'll be (Go for the '99 VFR or F4 you will not be sorry). Danny '99 VFR (the red one) "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 > > Larry Meyer asked: > > To help us new folks, how about if the people who showed up posted their > > names, > > the bikes they were on, and maybe what they were wearing. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 08:51:18 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08480 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:51:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA29439 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA20796 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:51:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id FAA01741 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:51:11 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:51:11 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: DC-Cycles First Ride Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:51:08 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >I have two good pics (the bikes wouldn't all fit in one pic!) from that huge >group ride at the end of the season last year that shows just how much of a >"sport-bike crowd" DC-Cycles is. The cruisers in the pics really stick out! Even more importantly, they keep up. DC Cycles is a lot like CAMS in that it's a collection of people who want to ride without any other agenda (OK - CAMS does have an other agenda - eating). Multiple groups based on perferred pace and regrouping spots so that those who prefer to actually look at the passing scenery occasionally can fully participate in the group experience. Anyhoo - great group, and one of the best that I've run in to in 38 years of riding. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 09:01:05 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08638 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29540 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ckgppxy1.proxy.att.com ([12.20.58.33]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA20926 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckgppxy1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id JAA11624 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE7F42.A3A2D800@XXXXXX>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:59:40 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: In-cement lock Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:59:38 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone have a URL for those stainless steel locks which anchor in the cement to lock your bike to with a krypto disc lock? TIA. John From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 09:26:33 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (web306.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.188]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09019 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:26:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990405132659.22764.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web306.yahoomail.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 06:26:59 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:26:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: DC-Cycles First Ride! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I can play too ;-) Collin Fagan Falss Church, VA ugly black leathers with uglier orange reflective vest over them 82 Maxim 650 with the leaking fork seals, blown rear shocks, crappy brakes, etc, etc, etc. And no test rides cause no one wants to go near poor "Pepe" :( he he he Collin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 09:37:17 1999 Return-Path: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09238 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:37:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from Lordorange@XXXXXX by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 2UAWa29801 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:47:30 -0500 (EDT) Message-ID: <4864ea7.243a18f2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:47:30 EDT Subject: Re: DC-Cycles First Ride! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Lordorange@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/5/99 8:47:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: << >To help us new folks, how about if the people who showed up >posted their names, >the bikes they were on, and maybe what they were wearing. >It'll give me >something to study during the seemingly unending string of >weekdays (ugh) before >I can really ride again. >> Matt Martinez Leesburg, Virginia Loud, Red Superhawk Black jacket, red helmet From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 09:38:27 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09255 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5-fddi.mcit.com [166.37.204.27]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA09394; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:36:39 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990405133622.WXDR24719@[166.41.242.214]>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:36:22 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Alex Milenkovic" , Subject: RE: New Superhawk! (Seca II now Sold) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:34:02 -0400 Message-ID: <000201be7f68$f7d0b890$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Alex Milenkovic: > I'm very close to picking up a VTR myself. I hear nothing but good > things about them, > > .. a great bike is a great bike, > shitty fuel tank nonwithstanding. > > Am I mistaken? I'm almost scared to venture into the 'is this too > much for someone with a little over a year of riding under their > belt' topic.. because that starts flame wars pretty consistently.. > > > Alex. So why bring it up? Are you trying to start a flame war? Before you mentioned it, I didn't know you HAD less than a year of riding experience. You seemed to ride pretty well the one time we were out together. Personally, I love the VTR. Aside from the fuel capacity, the seating position is the only other thing I'd consider intolerable. But then, I don't ride sport bikes. I'm sure that's just a matter of getting used to. One of the things I like about the VTR is the amount of attention it attracts (not always good). It's a good looking bike. If you want a VTR, go get one, and then GO RIDE! Todd From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 09:41:21 1999 Return-Path: redbelly@XXXXXX Received: from helix.nih.gov (helix.nih.gov [128.231.2.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09268 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:41:20 -0400 (EDT) From: redbelly@XXXXXX Received: from lejnarj ([156.40.49.10]) by helix.nih.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA2051673; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:41:11 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: To: , Cc: Subject: bike for sale Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:40:39 -0400 Message-ID: <000401be7f69$e565cbe0$0a31289c@lejnarj.drg.nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 85 Honda Interceptor 500, 25k miles, good tires, good brakes, tank bag, cover, looks ok, runs well, needs nothing, can have MD inspected. $1300/obo redbelly@XXXXXX, 301-738-0263 This is a good starter bike. It has been down some it the past, (3 owners) it has been owned by a buddy of mine for 4 years in that time it has lived a quiet life in a garage. When he first got it he put on about 4k miles in the first 2 years, but only about 500 in the last 2. He has little spare time or interest. I went with him when he bought it so I offered to bring it back to life and sell it. I have unwinterized it, cleaned it up, and fixed some minor issues. I am willing to give $30 to the person who sends me the buyer or I will take the same off the price for any list member. Thanks !! Jay Goddard From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 10:17:04 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA09983 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:17:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 5 Apr 1999 14:17:02 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA15881 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:13:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: No, I am not trolling :) In-Reply-To: <000201be7f68$f7d0b890$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > So why bring it up? Are you trying to start a flame war? Before you > mentioned it, I didn't know you HAD less than a year of riding experience. > You seemed to ride pretty well the one time we were out together. A little over a year. And yeah, I had a lot of fun on that ride. Scared the beejezus out of me once or twice (the top of that friggin hill - where WAS that by the way?) but I had TONS of fun! > Personally, I love the VTR. Aside from the fuel capacity, the seating > position is the only other thing I'd consider intolerable. But then, I > don't ride sport bikes. I'm sure that's just a matter of getting used to. I've heard it compared to the VFR. Not *as* comfy, but still better than most sportbikes. I was hoping to get the opinion of any VTR owners out there. > One of the things I like about the VTR is the amount of attention it > attracts (not always good). It's a good looking bike. I agree! > If you want a VTR, go get one, and then GO RIDE! > > Todd That's what I'm leaning towards. But given the veracity of the "Young squids should not buy overpowered superbikes" thread, culminating in that "I saw them wreck" hoax.. I sort of wanted to see whether I fell into the "Young squid with overpowered superbike" pigeon-hole if I went ahead and did it. Really, I guess it comes down to whether the VTR is a squid machine or not. It really doesn't strike me as one.. not like the R1 or GSXR750.. Ah well. No, I'm not trolling for flames. I swear. Alex From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 10:28:17 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10129 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:28:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01335 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA23010 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <2KZVZCY1>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:24:13 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Sport bike rider Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:24:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, folks, I've got a few minutes here and thought I'd mention a safety issue I saw this weekend. While traveling Baltimore-Washington Parkway with my family (in a = minivan, no less! =3D8^=DE), a Suzuki sport bike passed us. I glance over to = take a look and what do I see? The rider had his tennis-shoe-clad feet propped = behind him on the passenger seat. Needless to say, I stopped focusing on the = bike and had to explain to my 12-year-old son, who also noticed this riding style, why he would be traveling that way. Another thing, I was traveling about 72 mph, and he was passing my van = as well as starting his weave through a tad bit of traffic. I admired the "confidence" he had in his riding ability and the driving abilities of the vehicles around him, but this struck me as incredibly stupid. Does everyone concur, or am I just an old codger? Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda Magna From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 10:36:25 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10316 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2C6PFD9V>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:33:54 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F538429@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Sport bike rider Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:33:53 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I hope he was wearing shorts and a T-shirt too? If so the only thing that would top this story would be either bare feet of flip-flops. Glenn OK, folks, I've got a few minutes here and thought I'd mention a safety issue I saw this weekend. While traveling Baltimore-Washington Parkway with my family (in a minivan, no less! =8^?), a Suzuki sport bike passed us. I glance over to take a look and what do I see? The rider had his tennis-shoe-clad feet propped behind him on the passenger seat. Needless to say, I stopped focusing on the bike and had to explain to my 12-year-old son, who also noticed this riding style, why he would be traveling that way. Another thing, I was traveling about 72 mph, and he was passing my van as well as starting his weave through a tad bit of traffic. I admired the "confidence" he had in his riding ability and the driving abilities of the vehicles around him, but this struck me as incredibly stupid. Does everyone concur, or am I just an old codger? Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda Magna From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 10:49:02 1999 Return-Path: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bmdo.mcri.com (root@[207.124.52.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10532 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from My ([192.168.13.117]) by bmdo.mcri.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA08236 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:51:19 -0400 Message-Id: <199904051451.KAA08236@bmdo.mcri.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John Newman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:48:04 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Grace period?? Priority: normal In-reply-to: <19990402214623.25926.qmail@ww183.netaddress.usa.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Where do you need to go to get the inspection done? Will any local moto dealership do it for you? Can you just go to one of the gas stations which have inspections stations? How much does it cost? Anything "sneaky" about the test that they will fail you for? " I'm sorry sir, I can't pass you- you are missing the inner tube cap on your back tire..." Thanks, -John N 88FZR 400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 10:49:38 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10542 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01518 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:49:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA23693 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:49:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id cEBUa23883; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:11:38 -0500 (EDT) Message-ID: <8e7a010d.243a2caa@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:11:38 EDT Subject: Re: Sport bike rider To: HolmesM@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/5/99 10:34:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, HolmesM@XXXXXX writes: << Needless to say, I stopped focusing on the bike and had to explain to my 12-year-old son, who also noticed this riding style, why he would be traveling that way. >> 1. Practicing for when he installs really rear-set "rear-sets". 2. Trying to do the opposite of cruiser guys who put their feet on pegs near the handlebars. 3. Silly Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 10:53:12 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10643 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-109-211.s20.as4.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.109.211]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17150; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:53:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904051453.KAA17150@smtp1.erols.com> From: "D. Thompson" To: , "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" Subject: Re: Sport bike rider Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:53:44 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I admired the "confidence" he had in his riding ability and the driving abilities of the vehicles around him, but this struck me as incredibly stupid. Does everyone concur, or am I just an old codger? I concur whole-heartedly! Yet another example of why people on sportbikes are looked upon with disdain. Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 11:08:38 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10906 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:08:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id LAA06769; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:08:24 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id LAA29377; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:08:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: DC-Cycles First Ride! In-Reply-To: <19990405121608.1689.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hugh Caldwell Red Helmet and black jacket Red VFR800 and Herb's black Magna. Would like a cruiser but am not willing to trade ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Nomad wrote: > Sure, > Herb Manell > Arlington, Va > Black Motoport Jacket/ 1/2 Helmet > Black '94 Magna and Arrest me Red 98VFR800 Demo Ride Thanks to Hugh C. > (Now lusting for a Sport Bike) > > > --- LindaT wrote: > > Sure, > > Linda Tanner > > Grey roadcrafter > > riding a turquoise F3 > > > > LindaT. > > 95 F3 Purple Haze (54K miles and counting...) > > 86 KLR250 Klarabelle > > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ > > > > Larry Meyer asked: > > To help us new folks, how about if the people who showed up posted their > > names, > > the bikes they were on, and maybe what they were wearing. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 11:19:25 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11096 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:19:23 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA01513; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:19:57 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma014238; Mon, 5 Apr 99 10:45:40 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9Q00J0I11PUR@XXXXXX>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525674A.0050EC47 ; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 10:43:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 10:29:33 -0400 Subject: RE: New Superhawk! (Seca II now Sold) To: Todd Peer Cc: Alex Milenkovic , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525674A.004EC44D.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL As a note to Alex, and others, I find the VTR a very friendly bike for relative newbies. I AM one. I've been riding about 9 months now, and the power delivery is very smooth, with no suprises anywhere. The seating position IS a bit extreme compared to non-sport bikes, but as Todd mentioned, it's something you get used to. I only have 100 miles on the bike so far, but every mile has been enjoyable and stress-free. And that v-twin thump is something you have to experience to fully appreciate! Chris Weaver Alex Milenkovic: > I'm very close to picking up a VTR myself. I hear nothing but good > things about them, > > .. a great bike is a great bike, > shitty fuel tank nonwithstanding. > > Am I mistaken? I'm almost scared to venture into the 'is this too > much for someone with a little over a year of riding under their > belt' topic.. because that starts flame wars pretty consistently.. > > > Alex. So why bring it up? Are you trying to start a flame war? Before you mentioned it, I didn't know you HAD less than a year of riding experience. You seemed to ride pretty well the one time we were out together. Personally, I love the VTR. Aside from the fuel capacity, the seating position is the only other thing I'd consider intolerable. But then, I don't ride sport bikes. I'm sure that's just a matter of getting used to. One of the things I like about the VTR is the amount of attention it attracts (not always good). It's a good looking bike. If you want a VTR, go get one, and then GO RIDE! Todd From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 11:22:42 1999 Return-Path: mullins_john@XXXXXX Received: from mclean-mail.usae.bah.com (mclean-mail.usae.bah.com [156.80.5.109]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11175 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:22:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bah.com ([156.80.170.53]) by mclean-mail.usae.bah.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA6CD; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:20:49 -0400 Message-ID: <3708D499.5AD9F4F7@bah.com> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:19:53 -0400 From: "Mullins John" Organization: BAH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Newman CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Grace period?? References: <199904051451.KAA08236@bmdo.mcri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, I believe any gas station that inspects cars can inspect motorcycles and I believe most moto dealerships as well. I got my inspected two weeks ago at the local gas station. It's only five bucks. Nothing sneaky about the test. The test is one you should do before you ride each time. They check your headlight, signals, and taillight. That's all in Virginia. - John M John Newman wrote: > > Where do you need to go to get the inspection done? Will any > local moto dealership do it for you? Can you just go to one of the > gas stations which have inspections stations? > > How much does it cost? Anything "sneaky" about the test that they > will fail you for? > > " I'm sorry sir, I can't pass you- you are missing the inner tube cap > on your back tire..." > > Thanks, > > -John N > 88FZR 400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 11:30:56 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11348 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02069 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24876 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:30:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5.mcit.com [166.37.210.27]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA10038; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:30:04 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990405153033.VMI24719@[166.41.242.214]>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:30:33 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" , Subject: RE: Sport bike rider Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:28:12 -0400 Message-ID: <000801be7f78$eace1510$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > > I admired the "confidence" he had in his riding ability and the driving > abilities of the vehicles around him, but this struck me as incredibly > stupid. Does everyone concur, or am I just an old codger? > Maybe he thinks he's SuperMan, no wait that was some grizzled old drunk of a Harley rider we met in Princeton, WV. Did he have a blue cape on? Oh, and I concur. About 5 years ago I saw a similar act of stupidness. Guy was stretched out prone with his feet hanging over the rear signal stalks A La RiderWearHouses logo Todd From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 11:33:58 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11388 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user192.anent.com [208.195.115.192]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA00504 for ; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:28:08 -0400 Message-ID: <007001be7f79$f023c900$c073c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Used F2 Bodywork Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:35:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 While washing the inside of the bodywork on the '94 F2 I recently bought, I dropped the front upper assembly and broke off the two little tabs where the front corners of the side panels attach. I have the broken tabs but doubt that they can be reliably reattached and new left and right upper cowl replacements are $363 per side (yikes!) so I am looking for used bodywork. Are there any racers who have left over original bodywork? Collin? Brian? Any ideas? From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 11:48:44 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11703 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA24909 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:48:08 -0400 Message-Id: <199904051548.LAA24909@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:45:18 -0400 Subject: Re: DC-Cycles First Ride! Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4864ea7.243a18f2@aol.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Well, this isn't really any fun since everyone knows who I am (i.e. the one with the route sheets!). But in case anyone was asleep at the wheel (or would that be handlebars?)... Anita Lauro Sterling, VA - Purple/Black Canyon Jacket - Big, black 1996 Kawasaki GPZ1100 (top speed now confirmed to be at least 130mph but not by me... test ride? what test ride?) - Lowrance GM100 GPS *finally* mounted on the bike (the ultimate electronic toy) - Tourmaster TB-12 Tank Bag (finally found one I like) - Ventura sport rack (bought at the NYC bike show, now I'm ready for an overnight trip or two) From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 11:54:15 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11802 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:54:13 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA17653; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:54:10 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma013020; Mon, 5 Apr 99 11:43:20 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9Q002KY3PWK7@XXXXXX>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525674A.0056363E ; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:41:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:40:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Grace period?? To: Mullins John Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525674A.0055CAC4.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Although, I agree the test is no big deal, they do check a bit more than that ... Also checked are: -Tire tread life -brake pads -horn -gas cap -cables (visual) John N, you keep the Fizzer in good shape, you shouldn't have any probs ... I recommend going to a place that does not sell MC parts/service for an inspection. Then there is not temptation to fail you or sell you an "on the spot" part that you need to pass. --chris To: John Newman cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mullins John Date: 04/05/99 03:19:53 PM GMT Subject: Re: Grace period?? John, I believe any gas station that inspects cars can inspect motorcycles and I believe most moto dealerships as well. I got my inspected two weeks ago at the local gas station. It's only five bucks. Nothing sneaky about the test. The test is one you should do before you ride each time. They check your headlight, signals, and taillight. That's all in Virginia. - John M John Newman wrote: > > Where do you need to go to get the inspection done? Will any > local moto dealership do it for you? Can you just go to one of the > gas stations which have inspections stations? > > How much does it cost? Anything "sneaky" about the test that they > will fail you for? > > " I'm sorry sir, I can't pass you- you are missing the inner tube cap > on your back tire..." > > Thanks, > > -John N > 88FZR 400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 12:02:34 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA11952 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:02:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7FYLUAT; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:48:34 EDT To: brown@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Flame Wars Message-ID: <19990404.195602.8119.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <199904021520.KAA30096@tiamat.obscure.org> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-4,6-17 From: Bikes R Us Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:48:34 EDT In the tradition of such greats as Chuck Connors, I prefer to stand on the pegs and use both hands on my Winchester rifle... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:20:24 -0500 (EST) Dan Brown writes: > >> > >> >Any others I am missing? >> > > >Shooting your handgun with your right hand or your left as you >ride... > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 12:10:25 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12072 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:10:18 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id MAA25254; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:10:03 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma025963; Mon, 5 Apr 99 11:09:00 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9Q00JWQ24GTM@XXXXXX>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:10:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525674A.00531068 ; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:07:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:05:45 -0400 Subject: Re: No, I am not trolling :) To: Alex Milenkovic Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525674A.0052C897.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Can't you control your right wrist? I believe there are no squid bikes only squid riders. Of course, if you have to questions that fact, well then ... maybe you are a squid. --chris To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Christopher Meier/P I/Arlington VA/C&L/US) From: Alex Milenkovic Date: 04/05/99 02:13:46 PM GMT Subject: No, I am not trolling :) --snip-- That's what I'm leaning towards. But given the veracity of the "Young squids should not buy overpowered superbikes" thread, culminating in that "I saw them wreck" hoax.. I sort of wanted to see whether I fell into the "Young squid with overpowered superbike" pigeon-hole if I went ahead and did it. Really, I guess it comes down to whether the VTR is a squid machine or not. It really doesn't strike me as one.. not like the R1 or GSXR750.. Ah well. No, I'm not trolling for flames. I swear. Alex From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 12:16:18 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web312.yahoomail.com (web312.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.108]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12245 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:16:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990405161709.11768.rocketmail@web312.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web312.yahoomail.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:17:09 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:17:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Scrapping pegs in the RSS course To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Earlier last week there was some discussions about beginners scraping their pegs when taking the motorcycle rider course. This weekend while I was teaching, there was a beautiful example of what these beginner bikes can do. One guy was coming through a corner and didn't slow down enough before the turn. When he turned sharply, he and the bike leaned way in, and I could hear the pegs and exhaust pipe scraping. I was getting ready to go help him up, but the bike almost seemed to bounce back up and the rider went on his way. The other instructor and I looked at each other and shook our heads in disbelief. When I talked to the guy afterwards, I asked how long he has been riding. Turns out he was not on a motorcycle before taking the course! He said he frequently slides around in his pickup truck, and so he knew the best thing to do in that situation was not to brake but to give it some more gas. For the rest of the class he was dubbed "Hot-rod." Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 12:16:37 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12254 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:16:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5.mcit.com [166.37.210.27]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA20430 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:15:20 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990405161550.CMFD24719@[166.41.242.214]> for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:15:50 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: Subject: RE: DC-Cycles First Ride! Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:13:29 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01be7f7f$3e2d8fa0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <199904051548.LAA24909@radagast.wizard.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Todd Peer Springfield, VA - Black Darien Jacket - Draggin Jeans - Black Shoei Duotec flip-up - Big mother of an ST1100, w/hard luggage. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 12:24:38 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12385 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5.mcit.com [166.37.210.27]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA20504 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:20:51 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990405162407.CTPY24719@[166.41.242.214]> for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:24:07 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Insurance Question - VA Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:21:45 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01be7f80$65ebb480$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal I seem to recall reading sometime ago that if you had a policy in VA on one vehicle with liability coverage of 100/300, the extended 300k liability could be tapped if you ever needed it having survived a crash involving another of your vehicles. Anyone know if this is the truth? Todd From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 12:25:00 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12394 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:24:15 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:24:09 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 08:50:06 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: jnewman@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Flame Wars -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline 8) Tire choices, pressures 9) Riding gear/lack thereof >>> "John Newman" - 4/2/99 5:53 AM >>> Shaft drive vs. Chain drive Mommyvans & Volvos -John Newman Fzr 400 > At 09:37 AM 4/2/99 , Mike Troutman wrote: > >So - has anyone gathered a list of the hostile flame war topics > >1) The Little Wave > >2) I'd rather ride my Honda than haul my Harley > >3) Synthetic Oil vs. Dino > >4) Helmet Laws > >5) Winter riders vs. garage queens > >6) Non-MC List Content > > > >Any others I am missing? > > > 7) Right-angle tire valve stems vs. straight ones. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 12:26:40 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12407 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:26:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:25:35 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:25:26 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:04:20 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mark.petty@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Flame Wars -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I too vote for getting dialed-in with the left hand. And if flying casings bother you, switch to a revolver. Joe (semi-auto) >>> Mark Petty - 4/2/99 2:00 PM >>> What, you've never heard of a throttle control? And what of the issue of flying casings getting caught in the wind? -Mark Wednesday I had not one but two cig butts bounce off of my legs on the ride home. Friggin assholes. > -----Original Message----- > From: Hugh A. Caldwell [SMTP:Turnip@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 1:47 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Flame Wars > > > Well obviously you would use your left hand > so as to maintain a given speed and improve your aim. > However if your at a light and in gear than you would > have to use your right hand. How could this topic > possibly be controversial? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Dan Brown wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Any others I am missing? > > > > > > > > > Shooting your handgun with your right hand or your left as you > ride... > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 13:25:20 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13443 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A1F7D1C0270; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:25:11 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990405130716.012e87e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:09:47 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: S100 Total Cycle Corrosion Protectant Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Someone on this list said they were wondering about S100 Total Cycle Corrosion Protectant when I mentioned spraying it on my sidecar rig. And the answer is ... it works quite well! I just sprayed it on the engine cases and other places where corrosion had started, and it looks like it stopped the corrosion just fine. It has a dull, sort of matte finish to it, but they recommended buffing it (I didn't) so that would probably bring up the shine. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 13:28:53 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13538 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:28:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7F5RZYP; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:18:47 EDT To: jnewman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Grace period?? Message-ID: <19990404.202637.8119.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <199904051451.KAA08236@bmdo.mcri.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 6-9,11-27 From: Bikes R Us Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:18:47 EDT Most cycle shops (ours included) will inspect your bike. If you go to a motorcycle dealer for inspections, you're likely to get a more thorough, informed, and safer inspection. OTOH, if you have some "issues" you'd like to aviod explaining or fixing (an example would be non-DOT turn signals, for instance), an auto service station will be more likely to pass you, due either to ignorance of the laws or lack of concern over the finer details of the inspection. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:48:04 +0000 "John Newman" writes: >Where do you need to go to get the inspection done? Will any >local moto dealership do it for you? Can you just go to one of the >gas stations which have inspections stations? > >How much does it cost? Anything "sneaky" about the test that they >will fail you for? > >" I'm sorry sir, I can't pass you- you are missing the inner tube cap > >on your back tire..." > > >Thanks, > >-John N >88FZR 400 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 13:30:11 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13615 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:30:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03878 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA29217 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:30:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7F5RZZF; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:18:47 EDT To: HolmesM@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Sport bike rider Message-ID: <19990404.202637.8119.2.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-4,6-9,11-40 From: Bikes R Us Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:18:47 EDT I've seen sportbike guys hook their feet over the passenger pegs on the highway and thought that was insanity. You're saying this doofus had his feet way up behind him on the passenger seat? Deadly stupidity, IMO. I'm pretty flexible, but I'm not sure I could do that even if I wanted to! You're no codger, he was definitely dancing with the Devil by riding that way. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:24:09 -0400 "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" writes: >OK, folks, I've got a few minutes here and thought I'd mention a >safety >issue I saw this weekend. > >While traveling Baltimore-Washington Parkway with my family (in a = >minivan, >no less! =3D8^=DE), a Suzuki sport bike passed us. I glance over to = >take a look >and what do I see? The rider had his tennis-shoe-clad feet propped = >behind >him on the passenger seat. Needless to say, I stopped focusing on the >= >bike >and had to explain to my 12-year-old son, who also noticed this riding >style, why he would be traveling that way. > >Another thing, I was traveling about 72 mph, and he was passing my van >= >as >well as starting his weave through a tad bit of traffic. > >I admired the "confidence" he had in his riding ability and the >driving >abilities of the vehicles around him, but this struck me as incredibly >stupid. Does everyone concur, or am I just an old codger? > >Mitch Holmes >1986 Honda Magna > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 13:44:03 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13830 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:44:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id 2SBUa29940 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:40:31 -0500 (EDT) Message-ID: <572ab442.243a4f8f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:40:31 EDT Subject: Re: DC-Cycles First Ride! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Eternity23@XXXXXX Sean Jordan Red/Black Canyon jacket Silver Shoei RF800 with reflective visor '93 CBR1000F From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 13:55:34 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA14024 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:55:30 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id NAA16145; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:56:40 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma014810; Mon, 5 Apr 99 12:51:08 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9Q00DGQ6UWMA@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:52:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525674A.005C6ADE ; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:49:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:48:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Grace period?? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525674A.005C4487.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Probably meant for the whole list ... :-) --chris To: Christopher Meier/P I/Arlington VA/C&L/US@C&L US cc: From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Date: 04/05/99 04:18:05 PM GMT Subject: Re: Grace period?? As I just bought a bike, I have the inspection certification sheet. The items on the checklist are: Headlights Stop Lights Tail Lights License Lights Signal Lights Other Lights Reflectors Brakes Tires Wheels Exhaust System Mirror Glazing(?) Fuel System(?) Steering/Suspension Frame Coupling Device(?) I'm not sure exactly what they're supposed to be checking when they refer to Glazing, Fuel System, or Coupling Device, though. Chris Weaver VTR1000F #3913 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 14:03:57 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14234 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04383 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA00350 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AAFED630270; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:03:42 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990405135336.012f9b90@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:56:57 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Sport bike rider In-Reply-To: <19990404.202637.8119.2.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:18 PM 4/5/99 , Bikes R Us wrote: >I've seen sportbike guys hook their feet over the passenger pegs on the >highway and thought that was insanity. You're saying this doofus had his >feet way up behind him on the passenger seat? Deadly stupidity, IMO. I'm >pretty flexible, but I'm not sure I could do that even if I wanted to! Hmmm ... now if a guy's feet were all the way up on the passenger seat behind him, doesn't that mean that his hips are rotated forward quite a bit? And he's spread-legged across the seat, right? Doesn't that mean that this would be a VERY uncomfortable position unless he was quite small in a certain area? Inquiring minds want to inquire ... but don't really want to find out ... Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 14:10:39 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14359 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-109-211.s20.as4.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.109.211]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10677 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904051810.OAA10677@smtp1.erols.com> From: "D. Thompson" To: Subject: still looking for dual-purpose dirt bikers for trail ride the 11th Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:11:13 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey gang, I'm still hoping to find someone who is interested in the "Fort Valley Trail Ride" on the 11th. It is about 1 1/2 hours from DC. I really want to go ride, but don't want to ride my DR350 all the way there, ride the trails and then ride home, so I am looking for someone who will help out by carrying me and my bike there and back. I live in Warrenton (about 45 min. from DC). I would be glad to pay for the gas and buy the lunch... Thanks, Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 14:24:26 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14653 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04659 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:24:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send501.yahoomail.com (web506.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.73]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA01441 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:24:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990405182417.17014.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web506.yahoomail.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:24:17 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:24:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Shirts at last To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The DC-Cycles shirts have arrived! The shirts look great -- they were printed by lister Franz Muller. He was enthusiastic about the job and quickly tackled it, a refreshing change from other shops. For Brian McCoy and anyone else looking to print shirts, I would highly recommend Franz's SES Enterprises (410-560-9074). I'd like to distribute the shirts. I haven't yet replaced my bike after it was stolen, but I could bring the shirts to Springfield, Vienna or another metro station convenient to a ride on Saturday or Sunday morning. If that doesn't work or some people can't make it, we'll set up another drop. Sean _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 14:31:51 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14847 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:31:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04792 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA02436 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:31:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2BRS5LTJ>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:36:58 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC8B9@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Sport bike rider Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:29:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Or maybe he was just practicing the pose that Paige is using in her ad (from an earlier post...) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=85379507 Perry > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 1:57 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Sport bike rider > > At 01:18 PM 4/5/99 , Bikes R Us wrote: > >I've seen sportbike guys hook their feet over the passenger pegs on the > >highway and thought that was insanity. You're saying this doofus had his > >feet way up behind him on the passenger seat? Deadly stupidity, IMO. I'm > >pretty flexible, but I'm not sure I could do that even if I wanted to! > > > Hmmm ... now if a guy's feet were all the way up on the passenger seat > behind him, doesn't that mean that his hips are rotated forward quite a > bit? And he's spread-legged across the seat, right? Doesn't that mean > that this would be a VERY uncomfortable position unless he was quite small > in a certain area? > > Inquiring minds want to inquire ... but don't really want to find out ... > Chris Norloff > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 14:36:31 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14972 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2HLS3PQF>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:36:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: WERA Racing.. Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:36:08 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Well, I might have missed another post of this matter.. but, incase not.. WERA Races at Summit Point this weekend. Gates open at Summit point, 7pm Friday evening.. $20 entrance for the entire weekend. It's the first race of the year at our local track.. come out and support your friendly DC-Cycles Racing team members. Chances are, you'll see a lot more action that you might imagine, and it's definatally a lot more fun to be there live, in person..than watching it on Tv (though, in the winter.. I'll take what I can get!). Feel free to contact myself or Collin Fagan for more information of any sort. I can't speak highly enough for the Cornerworking experience (which gets you in the gate free, on the corner in the 2nd best seat in the house [first belonging to the racers], and fed.. sometimes with cornerworker incentive gifts). Or you can just be a pit monkey and help out the team... And, tell ya what.. We're offering DC-Cycles Racing t-shirts to anyone who helps out 2 days.. free of charge. No, they ain't for sale (yet).. so there's only one way to get them. Numbers are limited.. so act fast! Brian McCoy From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 14:48:14 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15203 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2L23HFTW>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:47:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: No, I am not trolling :) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:47:43 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > Can't you control your right wrist? NO! > > I believe there are no squid bikes only squid riders. Of > course, if you > have to questions that fact, well then ... maybe you are a squid. So.. when does on move from 'squid' to 'hooligan' to 'stunt-man'? Is it after a certain number of times doing an activity.. or certain muber of miles.. certain hours racked up? Just curious if I'm still a 'squid' or have moved on to the more prestigious 'Hooligan' catagory.. ;) Brian 'Hooligan' McCoy From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 14:51:25 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15295 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-109-211.s20.as4.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.109.211]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28324; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:51:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904051851.OAA28324@smtp1.erols.com> From: "D. Thompson" To: , "Gary Foreman" Subject: Re: still looking for dual-purpose dirt bikers for trail ride the 11th Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:51:42 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary Foreman wrote: > Where can I find out more info on this? Does the bike have to be street > legal? 2-Strokes? Appreciate any info. No they don't have to be street legal from what I understand as long as they have a spark arrester(sp?). I got a simple tri-fold brochure at Manassas Honda one day and it talks about it. The No. Va. Trail Riders Asc. is sponsoring it and they have a web site (www.nvtr.org) that might help as far as contacts go, but it has not been updated since Oct. '98. 2-Strokes are fine. This is supposed to be a looped course that will give riders a chance to "race" without racing. It will be based on how close in time you can do each loop. The brochure says, "...so make sure you fall at the same place each loop. Just kidding..." I think it sounds fun and I have met a couple of people involved in the NVTR asc. and they seem pretty nice. That is about all I know except how to get there. Try the contact on the web page. Let me know what you find out.... Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Hey gang, > > > > I'm still hoping to find someone who is interested in the "Fort Valley > > Trail Ride" on the 11th. It is about 1 1/2 hours from DC. I really want to > > go ride, but don't want to ride my DR350 all the way there, ride > > the trails > > and then ride home, so I am looking for someone who will help out by > > carrying me and my bike there and back. I live in Warrenton (about 45 min. > > from DC). I would be glad to pay for the gas and buy the lunch... > > > > Thanks, > > Danny > > '99 VFR > > '93 DR 350 > > "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." > > 1 Samuel 2:30 > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 15:03:06 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15512 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:03:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id PAA05209; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:03:01 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id PAA01311; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:03:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:03:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: WERA Racing.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Do you know at what time the races will starting on Saturday and Sunday? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 15:05:29 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15604 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id PAA05685; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:05:25 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id PAA02216; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:05:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Sport bike rider In-Reply-To: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC8B9@md-exchange1.nai.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, after riding Herb's Magna I figured owning a cruiser wouldn't be a bad idea. Now what did I do with my piggy bank? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Coleman, Perry wrote: > Or maybe he was just practicing the pose that Paige is using in her ad (from > an earlier post...) > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=85379507 > > Perry > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 1:57 PM > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: Sport bike rider > > > > At 01:18 PM 4/5/99 , Bikes R Us wrote: > > >I've seen sportbike guys hook their feet over the passenger pegs on the > > >highway and thought that was insanity. You're saying this doofus had his > > >feet way up behind him on the passenger seat? Deadly stupidity, IMO. I'm > > >pretty flexible, but I'm not sure I could do that even if I wanted to! > > > > > > Hmmm ... now if a guy's feet were all the way up on the passenger seat > > behind him, doesn't that mean that his hips are rotated forward quite a > > bit? And he's spread-legged across the seat, right? Doesn't that mean > > that this would be a VERY uncomfortable position unless he was quite small > > in a certain area? > > > > Inquiring minds want to inquire ... but don't really want to find out ... > > Chris Norloff > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 15:21:21 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15936 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2HLS3RMN>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:21:12 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: WERA Racing.. Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:21:07 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > Do you know at what time the races will starting on > Saturday and Sunday? > Ahh.. good Question.. Typically Racing starts at or about noon.. practice in the morning (both days) before that.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 15:26:04 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15977 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:26:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2HLS3RSQ>; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:25:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: dual-purpose dirt bikers for trail ride the 11th Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:25:47 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Hey.. if anyone's interested in doing this, but doesn't have a bike.. mine's for loan. It's a beat-up 81 XT250.. the suspention's way tired.. and not street-legal.. and if you make it un-ridable.. you pay to make it rideable again.... interested parties just e-mail me.. :) Brian > This is supposed to be a looped course that will > give riders a > chance to "race" without racing. It will be based on how > close in time you > can do each loop. The brochure says, "...so make sure you > fall at the same > place each loop. Just kidding..." From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 15:32:00 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA16143 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990405193921.2687.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web303.yahoomail.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:39:21 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:39:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: RE: WERA Racing.. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yep, practice starts at 0800... the first session is usually slower since people are dusting off cobwebs and the track is pretty slick... but the second round of practice sessions (about 0930 or so...) usually sees most folks up to full or near race speeds and some dicing between friends... --- "McCoy, Brian NAB02" wrote: > > Do you know at what time the races will starting on > > Saturday and Sunday? > > > > Ahh.. good Question.. Typically Racing starts at or about noon.. > practice in > the morning (both days) before that.. > > Brian > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 15:32:48 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16153 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AFDB17401C2; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:32:43 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990405152726.012eb360@mail.toward.com> Message-Id: <4.1.19990405152726.012eb360@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:29:03 -0400 To: "'dc'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: No, I am not trolling :) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:47 PM 4/5/99 , McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: >So.. when does on move from 'squid' to 'hooligan' to 'stunt-man'? Is it >after a certain number of times doing an activity.. or certain muber of >miles.. certain hours racked up? Just curious if I'm still a 'squid' or have >moved on to the more prestigious 'Hooligan' catagory.. ;) >Brian 'Hooligan' McCoy Squid - does it and doesn't care. Not very skilled. Hooligan - does it, does it with an attitude, and cares. Skill has improved through Natural Selection. Stunt Man- hooligan who does it for pay. :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 15:49:35 1999 Return-Path: true@XXXXXX Received: from gemini.smart.net (gemini.smart.net [206.27.242.109]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16414 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dilbernator (max1p84a.smart.net [209.136.133.84]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA06433 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:49:15 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990405154643.006a8b58@wingate> X-Sender: true911#pop.bellatlantic.net@wingate X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 15:53:01 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: WERA Racing.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This Saturday is also the Blessing of the Bikes. I think it's in Westminster, but I don't have the flyer here at work. It's not too early, probably around 11:00am. If anyone's interested, I'll post later from the flyer. MET >WERA Races at Summit Point this weekend. Gates open at Summit point, 7pm >Friday evening.. $20 entrance for the entire weekend. It's the first race >of the year at our local track.. come out and support your friendly >DC-Cycles Racing team members. Chances are, you'll see a lot more action --------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove Email: true@XXXXXX WWW: http://members.bellatlantic.net/~true911 ... playing around at work, like I shouldn't be ... --------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 16:10:57 1999 Return-Path: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bmdo.mcri.com (root@[207.124.52.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16850 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from My ([192.168.13.117]) by bmdo.mcri.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA10416 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:13:14 -0400 Message-Id: <199904052013.QAA10416@bmdo.mcri.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John Newman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:09:57 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) FZR-400: squid defined: Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) This just in. As found in Webster's under "squid" Squid: (skwid) (1) A marine cephalopod mollusk of the genera Loligo Rossa. (2) see web page below.... -John N. 88Fzr 400 ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:29:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Howard Polansky To: fzr-400@XXXXXX Subject: FZR-400: squid defined: Reply-to: fzr-400@XXXXXX these are squids. www.vegaskennels.com/gsxr From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 16:48:55 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA17653 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from henrywin (dc-csesp50.idsonline.com [207.176.21.50]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA21696 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:47:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: Grace period?? Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:50:37 -0400 Message-ID: <001401be7fa5$f56c4f00$3215b0cf@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <3708D499.5AD9F4F7@bah.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > John, > I believe any gas station that inspects cars can inspect motorcycles and > I believe most moto dealerships as well. > I got my inspected two weeks ago at the local gas station. It's only > five bucks. There is a problem with using a service station to inspect a motorcycle. They cannot be counted on to know what they are looking at. I have heard of bikes being passed that weren't safe to ride. Why? because the 'inspector' had no clue about motorcycles. If it were me, I'd prefer to have someone do it who knows what they are looking at. For my money, it makes sense to have a motorcycle inspection station do it. Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 16:48:57 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA17656 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from henrywin (dc-csesp50.idsonline.com [207.176.21.50]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA21702 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:47:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: Used F2 Bodywork Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:50:38 -0400 Message-ID: <001501be7fa5$f62e1860$3215b0cf@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <007001be7f79$f023c900$c073c3d0@bruce> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > While washing the inside of the bodywork on the '94 F2 I recently > bought, I > dropped the front upper assembly and broke off the two little > tabs where the > front corners of the side panels attach. I have the broken tabs > but doubt that Bruce...... Most MC body work these days is made out of ABS. Guess what?? So are plastic water pipes. Get thee down to your local hardware store and buy some ABS plastic cement. I've broken far too many of those little tabs, and believe me they can be glued on with the ABS cement with no problem and probably stronger than they were originally. Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 16:48:54 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA17650 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from henrywin (dc-csesp50.idsonline.com [207.176.21.50]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA21693 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:47:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: Sport bike rider Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:50:36 -0400 Message-ID: <001301be7fa5$f4b53400$3215b0cf@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > no less! =8^Þ), a Suzuki sport bike passed us. I glance over to > take a look > and what do I see? The rider had his tennis-shoe-clad feet propped behind > him on the passenger seat. Needless to say, I stopped focusing > I admired the "confidence" he had in his riding ability and the driving > abilities of the vehicles around him, but this struck me as incredibly > stupid. Does everyone concur, or am I just an old codger? I concur. While it may be arguably a bit more comfortable perhaps, anyone who rides in that kind of protective gear can (IMHO) be classed as only one thing. Incredibly stupid...probably self taught as well. Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 17:39:06 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA18653 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA07798 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:38:58 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA09787 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:38:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.3) id rXWUa05018; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:21:48 -0500 (EDT) Message-ID: <3c4d6aca.243a836c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:21:48 EDT Subject: Re: Shirts at last To: redsullivan@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/5/1999 2:31:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, redsullivan@XXXXXX writes: << The DC-Cycles shirts have arrived! >> Yiiippppeeeee. Sean, where do you live now? I live and work in DC and can swing by to pick mine up. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 18:16:10 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19348 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:16:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA08312 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA11017 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursulina (207-172-35-214.s214.tnt9.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.35.214]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id SAA04989 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:16:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00db01be7fca$bad20540$7c2caccf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: DC-Cycles First Ride! Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:13:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Well, the other two ladies on the ride have been announced so that just leaves me: Ursulina :-) 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD Vanson Leathers "Cobra" in black Black jeans Quick note of thanks to ANITA for putting on such an excellent ride. Loved the roads and the nice pace. Great to see so many new faces and bikes. - - Ursulina -----Original Message----- From: Larry Meyer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sunday, April 04, 1999 7:28 PM Subject: Re: DC-Cycles First Ride! >Anita Lauro wrote: > > > >> Definitely a ton of new faces... I still think we should all get patches or >> name tags made with our names and email addresses on them... too hard to >> figure out who's who! :-) >> >> Overall I had a *great* time... when's the next one? :-) >> >> Anita >> 1996 GPZ1100 (no cobwebs now!) > >I was one of the newbies, and I can't remember a better ride or a better group >of people. Can't wait to do it again. > >To help us new folks, how about if the people who showed up posted their names, >the bikes they were on, and maybe what they were wearing. It'll give me >something to study during the seemingly unending string of weekdays (ugh) before >I can really ride again. > >Thanks again, especially to Anita, Todd, and Collin, for the great time. > >Larry Meyer >Annandale VA >'97 Bandit 1200, blue >Blue Aerostitch Roadcrafter > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 18:43:38 1999 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19755 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from l4rite (207-172-122-16.s270.tnt14.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.122.16]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA08553 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <03d301be7fb6$074cc640$107aaccf@l4rite> From: "Leslie" To: Subject: Re: still looking for dual-purpose dirt bikers for trail ride the 11th Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:45:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 "Fort Valley Trail Ride" on the11th.Danny '99 VFR I wanted to take my KLR up there and ride...however...HillBilly had to start a war, so I gotta work....thats why I wasn't on the ride Saturday...but hey I get Tuesday off this week...lucky me....If you have a trailer hitch, I have a trailer that you can use.....Les...dying to ride in dirt.... From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 19:02:14 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20109 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:02:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-77-215.s24.as4.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.77.215]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA27078 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:08:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007f01be7fb8$67f87a00$d74daccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: DC-Cycles First Ride! Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:02:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Brian Nordwall, Ashburn, VA 1996 Yamaha FZR600 (white,red,blue-no FZR600 on it) Black Streetline leather jacket, blue jeans Shoei white, multi colored Helmet Get ride! Can't wait for the next one. I'm thinking about going to Summit this weekend. See ya. Brian N From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 19:07:13 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm05sm.pmm.cw.net (pm05sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.154]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20188 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr50-dialup183.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.196.187]) by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35323) with SMTP id <0F9Q00L67O6SH4@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:06:32 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 19:06:25 +0000 From: Jon Subject: Re: No, I am not trolling :) To: DC Cycles Message-id: <013501be7f97$6a908d00$bbc43ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Squid - does it and doesn't care. Not very skilled. >Hooligan - does it, does it with an attitude, and cares. Skill has >improved through > Natural Selection. >Stunt Man- hooligan who does it for pay. I think there are a few who fall into the category of "Squidly Hooligan". Eh-hem, mofo's, eh-hem Jon From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 19:07:52 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20198 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:07:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from henrywin (east-dialup46.idsonline.com [209.136.96.46]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA02538 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:06:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: helmet visor Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:09:33 -0400 Message-ID: <000001be7fb9$5e3a29e0$2e6088d1@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know if it was anyone on this list, but I think someone wanted to know what helmets had visors that would stay open. The visor on my brand new Arai Quantum/e seems to stay up pretty well. But I was riding behind a tallish windscreen. Don't know how it would do out in the air with no screen. Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 20:12:02 1999 Return-Path: rdt@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21149 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:12:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rdt (207-172-41-74.s74.tnt10.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.41.74]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10199 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000c01be7fc2$5db6da00$4a29accf@rdt> From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: Subject: Saturday's Ride Aftermath Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:13:57 -0400 Organization: Attorney at Law MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE7FA0.D5D42E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE7FA0.D5D42E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After departing from the group on Saturday Kevin and hit a few more back = roads. We then headed home by travelling on Route 55 East. While = coming out of the same turn (at a decent rate of speed) where a young = rider ran off the road last year on a group ride, a County Deputy = Sherrif appeared on the horizon. Kevin was leading and I was hanging = back a little. The next thing I saw was the Officer's blue lights. I = immediately pull over. Kevin did the same thing. The officer pulled a = quick U Turn and passed me on the left. He then pulled his cruiser in = front of Kevin's VFR and blocked him off. I then drove my GSXR up the = road and pulled over about 40 feet from where the Officer and Kevin = were. =20 I kept my helmet on and could not hear most of the conversation. I was = somewhat suprised that the Officer spoke with Kevin for only a few = minutes and then departed without writing a ticket!! Kevin said that = the Officer clocked him at 71 MPH on radar coming out of the turn. I = believe thew speed limit was 55. The Officer warned him that about 3 = bikes a year crash at that corner. Kevin told the Officer he was aware = how dangerous the corner was because he had seen a fellow group rider = crash there last year. The Officer also stated that he rode a bike. Lesson learned: It appears that being mature (old?), pulling over = immediately and having a good driving record can sometimes help you = avoid being ticketed for speeding. I have walked without incident the = last 4 times I have been pulled over (3 times on bike and once in car). = In at least one of my prior pull overs the Officer has been a biker. = Kevin has walked his last two times. Hopefully I will be able to keep my perfect driving record intact for = another year!!!! Roy D. Turner, Esq. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE7FA0.D5D42E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
After departing from the group on Saturday Kevin and = hit a few=20 more back roads.  We then headed home by travelling on Route 55 = East. =20 While coming out of the same turn (at a decent rate of speed) where a = young=20 rider ran off the road last year on a group ride, a County Deputy = Sherrif=20 appeared on the horizon.  Kevin was leading and I was hanging back = a=20 little.  The next thing I saw was the Officer's blue = lights.  I=20 immediately pull over.  Kevin did the same thing.  The officer = pulled=20 a quick U Turn and passed me on the left.  He then pulled his = cruiser in=20 front of Kevin's VFR and blocked him off.  I then drove my GSXR up = the=20 road and pulled over about 40 feet from where the Officer and Kevin = were. =20
 
I kept my helmet on and could not hear most of the=20 conversation.  I was somewhat suprised that the Officer spoke with = Kevin=20 for only a few minutes and then departed without writing a = ticket!! =20 Kevin said that the Officer clocked him at 71 MPH on radar coming out of = the=20 turn.  I believe thew speed limit was 55.  The Officer warned = him that=20 about 3 bikes a year crash at that corner.  Kevin told the = Officer he=20 was aware how dangerous the corner was because he had seen a fellow = group rider=20 crash there last year.  The Officer also stated that he rode a=20 bike.
 
Lesson learned:  It appears that being mature = (old?),=20 pulling over immediately and having a good driving record can sometimes = help you=20 avoid being ticketed for speeding.  I have walked without incident = the last=20 4 times I have been pulled over (3 times on bike and once in = car). In at=20 least one of my prior pull overs the Officer has been a biker. = Kevin has=20 walked his last two times.
 
Hopefully I will be able to keep my perfect driving = record=20 intact for another year!!!!
 
Roy D. Turner, Esq.
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE7FA0.D5D42E60-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 20:20:31 1999 Return-Path: rdt@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21361 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rdt (207-172-41-74.s74.tnt10.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.41.74]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA14254 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004901be7fc3$8df2c340$4a29accf@rdt> From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: Subject: Identification of Riders Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:22:27 -0400 Organization: Attorney at Law MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01BE7FA2.06394A80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BE7FA2.06394A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was riding my 98 red, black and silver Suzuki GSXR 750 (M4 slip on, LP = tank bra and smoke colored Zero Gravity screen). I was dressed in blue = jeans and a black leather riding jacket. I wore a solid red helmet. My buddy Kevin was riding his red 91 VFR ( Vance and Hines slip on and = LP tank bra). He wore a black riding suit and white helmet. Roy D. Turner, Esq. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BE7FA2.06394A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was riding my 98 red, black and silver Suzuki GSXR = 750 (M4=20 slip on, LP tank bra and smoke colored Zero Gravity screen).  I was = dressed=20 in blue jeans and a black leather riding jacket.  I wore a solid = red=20 helmet.
 
My buddy Kevin was riding his red 91 VFR ( Vance and = Hines=20 slip on and LP tank bra).  He wore a black riding suit and white=20 helmet.
 
Roy D. Turner, Esq.
------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BE7FA2.06394A80-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 22:20:30 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from gecko.troutman.org (root@XXXXXX [209.122.199.94]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23241 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA06602 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:20:18 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma006600; Mon, 5 Apr 99 22:20:04 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990405221702.00a19c50@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:20:02 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: RE: Sport bike rider In-Reply-To: <001301be7fa5$f4b53400$3215b0cf@henrywin> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:50 PM 4/5/99 -0400, Henry S. Winokur wrote: >I concur. While it may be arguably a bit more comfortable perhaps, anyone >who rides in that kind of protective gear can (IMHO) be classed as only one >thing. Incredibly stupid...probably self taught as well. Although I agree that what he was doing was probably stupid - not all of us have been able to find reasonably priced comfortable riding boots yet. I wear high ankle tennis shoes for the time being. They are sturdy, have good grip, and protect my ankles. The plan is to buy what I would call 'firemans boots'. Not the rubber waders - the water proof zip up nylon/cordura style. Just a bit out of my price range still ;-( _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 23:12:53 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24078 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:12:52 -0400 (EDT) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id 2VKEa09711; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <858cad26.243ad544@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:11:00 EDT Subject: Re: DC-Cycles First Ride! To: Lordorange@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: McKeithen@XXXXXX Bob McKeithen, 95 750 Night Hawk ( the one with the wimply windsheild) Red/black Teknic jacket From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 5 23:54:08 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web302.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.184]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA24671 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:54:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990406035502.15013.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.111.139] by web302.yahoomail.com; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 20:55:02 PDT Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 20:55:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: RE: Grace period?? To: "Henry S. Winokur" , Dc-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If I didn't know anything about takig care of my bikes, I'd have to agree. However, I do all my own maintenance and know when the bikes right and when it ain't. I've heard several horror stories about the dealers in this area... they will go through and nit pick and fail a bike that is perfectly fine.....just so they can offer on the spot repairs (at $57/hour or whatever the going rate is these days...) Good thing I'm an OR resident and don't have to do that silly inspection thing ;-p he he he Probably a good thing, since I know the maxim's leaky fork seal wouldn't pass.... Collin --- "Henry S. Winokur" wrote: > There is a problem with using a service station to inspect a > motorcycle. > They cannot be counted on to know what they are looking at. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 00:02:22 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA24824 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA12411 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:02:15 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA18237 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id vCVFa15822 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <688ebe0f.243ae11d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:01:33 EDT Subject: Re: helmet visor To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: NJitzul@XXXXXX My HJC LT12's visor stays up just fine no matter what speed. And I don't have a fairing or windshield either. The ratcheting mechanism works fine by me, and it's simple enough to replace visors in the field. I guess the most important thing to me is that I don't eat as many bugs as I used to with my 3/4 helmet! YUCK!!! Robert "the only bugs I eat are chocolate covered grasshoppers" VanSlyke ;) 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 00:30:02 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA25214 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:29:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA13059 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA18610 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id AAA25443; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:29:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:29:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: "Carver, John" cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: In-cement lock In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nope, but they have them at Coleman PS for you to look at before mail ordering it from somewhere better . I installed one of these two weeks ago. I highly recommend it. One thing worth noting... I own your average 3/4" corded drill... I weigh about 150 lbs. Drilling three holes 4 inches into concrete was not the easiest thing to do. It's in there now though, and I don't think it'll be coming out anytime soon. - Brian On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Carver, John wrote: > Anyone have a URL for those stainless steel locks which anchor in the > cement to lock your bike to with a krypto disc lock? > > TIA. > > John > From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 00:48:35 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA25519 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA13268 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA18910 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:48:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.43]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.7) with SMTP id ; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 00:44:17 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: Cc: Subject: RE: In-cement lock Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:45:34 -0400 Message-ID: <002701be7fe8$4ebb71c0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal What kind did you order? Were you using a 'hammer' drill, or just a regular drill with a masonry bit? ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > Nope, but they have them at Coleman PS for you to look at before > mail ordering it from somewhere better . > > I installed one of these two weeks ago. I highly recommend it. > One thing worth noting... I own your average 3/4" corded drill... > I weigh about 150 lbs. Drilling three holes 4 inches into concrete was not > the easiest thing to do. It's in there now though, and I don't think > it'll be coming out anytime soon. > > - Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 00:51:45 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA25596 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-38.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.38]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA04913 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:51:43 -0400 Message-ID: <039701be7fe9$14d407a0$e7a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Sticker pretties Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:51:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0394_01BE7FC7.8C61ED40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0394_01BE7FC7.8C61ED40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Happened to run across today, and recalling needs for mountings for = stickers -- inspection, parking, etc. -- Manassas Honda has shiny = bolt-on plates fit for a number of locations. About $10. 1 703 361 = 2233. =20 Bill S. / DC=20 99 VN750 --> my inspec stic mates to my plate Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. ------=_NextPart_000_0394_01BE7FC7.8C61ED40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Happened to run across = today, and=20 recalling needs for mountings for stickers -- inspection, parking, = etc.  --=20 Manassas Honda has shiny bolt-on plates fit for a number of = locations. =20 About $10.  1 703 361 2233. 
 
Bill S. / DC
99 = VN750 --> my=20 inspec stic mates to my plate
Join the AMA.  Help protect my = riding=20 fun.
------=_NextPart_000_0394_01BE7FC7.8C61ED40-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 01:24:59 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA26056 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA13630 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA19463 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:24:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id BAA25583; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:24:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 01:24:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: George Howell cc: roach@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: In-cement lock In-Reply-To: <002701be7fe8$4ebb71c0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, George Howell wrote: > What kind did you order? Were you using a 'hammer' drill, or just a regular > drill with a masonry bit? Uuuummm. I know this sounds lame, but I've already chucked the box and the name wasn't memorable. I'll look at it in the AM and see if the brand name is on it (I'm thinking it was called a "lockdown") Basically I saw it at Coleman a couple weeks back when trying to look at a Ducati SS (They didn't have one on the floor, noone seemed to know if they would have one anytime soon). I Immediatly decided this was a GoodThing and actually bought one there, rather than ordering it from somewhere else. The fact I had just had the Yamaha stolen with every other security device you can buy may have influenced this failure of principles ;) The Harley is now attached to this thing with a Kryptonite BarbWire cable run through the frame. In answer to your other question... Hand-held drill with 1/2" masonry bit. Took me FOREVER but i managed to do it. A hammer type drill would be MUCH better, and prob avoid the sore shoulders and arms the next day. - Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 07:22:01 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA02841 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:21:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA26444 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:11:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2L23H2GJ>; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 04:10:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Inspection (WAS: Grace period??) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 04:10:43 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > From: Henry S. Winokur [mailto:henwin@XXXXXX] > There is a problem with using a service station to inspect a > motorcycle. > They cannot be counted on to know what they are looking at. > I have heard of > bikes being passed that weren't safe to ride. Why? because > the 'inspector' > had no clue about motorcycles. If it were me, I'd prefer to > have someone do > it who knows what they are looking at. For my money, it > makes sense to have > a motorcycle inspection station do it. Of course, As was mentioned earlier.. there are reasons to avoid shops for inspections. When I got my VFR inspected, they found $500 worth of estimated work/parts to get it on the road. I grilled the guy on what SPECIFICALLY was wrong, and with 1 exception (a part that was missing), I could have fixed it all in their parking lot with the limited tools I had on hand in about 30 minutes. I brought the bike back to them the next day and demanded the same person inspect it again - going over specifically what he'd talked about the day before... They had a really condonsending attitude about the whole thing.. like they knew everything, and I knew nothing, which is why I was an ass with them (well, not in a bad way, I was just fery demanding in a lot of ways). In essence, I pretty much forced them to give me the inspection... Oh, not to mention that they tried to weasle money out of me by attempting to fail me on something the 2nd day that'd passed the first day... I wasn't about to let that happen.. Jon, you said something about how amazing things are in dealerships when you start bitching and doing it loud (I had other customers watching the scene.. it was great). Oh yea.. the shop was Clinton Cycles.. I had a TERRIBLE experience with them and can't urge anyone enough to STAY AWAY from there.. Bah Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 08:03:42 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03470 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA17326 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA23952 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A8158010278; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 08:03:33 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990406075424.0129e4e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 07:55:08 -0400 To: Sean Sullivan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Shirts at last In-Reply-To: <19990405182417.17014.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:24 PM 4/5/99 , Sean Sullivan wrote: > The DC-Cycles shirts have arrived! Great! Thanks, Sean. > I'd like to distribute the shirts. I haven't yet >replaced my bike after it was stolen, but I could >bring the shirts to Springfield, Vienna or another >metro station convenient to a ride on Saturday or >Sunday morning. Sounds good ... let's see how the weekends shape up. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 09:29:01 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04755 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18287 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:28:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA25616 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 8525674B.004A0031 ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:28:17 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525674B.00482C81.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:28:11 -0400 Subject: RE: Grace period?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline >>I do all my own maintenance and know when the bikes right and when it ain't. I've heard several horror stories about the dealers in this area... they will go through and nit pick and fail a bike that is perfectly fine.....just so they can offer on the spot repairs (at $57/hour or whatever the going rate is these days...)<< I agree with Collin. The first and last time I took a bike to a dealer (a one year old bike by the way), they failed it and said my steering head bearings were bad. They based this on the fact that the steering column would not fall freely to the stops on one side when the front wheel was off the ground. The mental midget of a mechanic couldn't figure out that the problem was being caused by not enough slack in the main wiring harness that travels up under the gas tank, through the triple tree into the headlight assembly. It was obvious to me within 5 seconds of looking at the problem. I looked at the guy, told him he was an idiot and went across the street to a gas station and had the inspection sticker on the bike 10 minutes later. With this type of incompetence, I don't want anyone but me working on my bike. No matter how much experience or knowledge a mechanic might have, he simply will not care as much about getting it right as I do. For this reason, no one will be doing any work on my bike but me. The only exception would be for major work that I don't have the ability to do myself. Steve Beck From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 09:33:27 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04836 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5-fddi.mcit.com [166.37.204.27]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA31821; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:33:11 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990406133254.FCGN24719@[166.41.242.214]>; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:32:54 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Mike T" , Subject: RE: Sport bike rider Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:30:28 -0400 Message-ID: <000901be8031$a2d28110$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <4.1.19990405221702.00a19c50@www.troutman.org> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Mike and everyone, You can get reasonably price ankle high boots at places like Sunny's Surplus (for around $50). Not need to spend a cajillion $$'s. Some people do (like me ;(, but it aint necessary. Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike T [mailto:mike@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 10:20 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Sport bike rider > > > At 04:50 PM 4/5/99 -0400, Henry S. Winokur wrote: > >I concur. While it may be arguably a bit more comfortable > perhaps, anyone > >who rides in that kind of protective gear can (IMHO) be classed > as only one > >thing. Incredibly stupid...probably self taught as well. > > Although I agree that what he was doing was probably stupid - not > all of us > have been able to find reasonably priced comfortable riding boots yet. I > wear high ankle tennis shoes for the time being. They are sturdy, have > good grip, and protect my ankles. The plan is to buy what I would call > 'firemans boots'. Not the rubber waders - the water proof zip up > nylon/cordura style. Just a bit out of my price range still ;-( > > > > _____________________________________ > Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org > > '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 09:47:46 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05073 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18856 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:47:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA26185 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:47:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:47:14 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:47:05 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 08:51:20 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: HolmesM@XXXXXX, bike.dealer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Sport bike rider -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline But this would be OK if you were riding a Honda. Joe DISCLAIMER: Above intended as humorous observation only. Not for use as flame bait or derision of fellow riders or their motorcycle brand of choice. Lighten up. >>> Bikes R Us - 4/5/99 1:18 PM >>> I've seen sportbike guys hook their feet over the passenger pegs on the highway and thought that was insanity. You're saying this doofus had his feet way up behind him on the passenger seat? Deadly stupidity, IMO. I'm pretty flexible, but I'm not sure I could do that even if I wanted to! You're no codger, he was definitely dancing with the Devil by riding that way. From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 09:51:01 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05152 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18896 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA26256 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id JAA02465 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:50:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE8012.EE2CE980@XXXXXX>; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:50:40 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'mullins_john@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Grace Period? Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:48:57 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Although I thought they would check the tire treads on my VFR, I went anyway. (I have about 10.5k on the stock D204s) The attendant didn't really seem to care, maybe because the front still looks okay, but he did get down on his knees and shine a flashlight to check the brake pads. It also only costs 5.00. All in all, probably the best inspection experience for me, south of NJ. (In NJ you get to go to the special line and by pass the cagers) BTW, I took the VFR to the Mobil station in Herndon across from Worldgate. John 98 VFR From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 09:59:29 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05260 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:59:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA20162 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id hXYZa18465; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3776cf5a.243b6cea@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:58:02 EDT Subject: Re: Inspection (WAS: Grace period??) To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/6/99 7:33:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX writes: << Of course, As was mentioned earlier.. there are reasons to avoid shops for inspections. >> In my experience, unless you need a set of tires and are willing to pay a little more for them at a shop (consider it graft) always go to a service station for a motorcycle inspection. My experience is that a shop must be able to do work on a bike they are inspecting in order to make the inspection profitable. They will always find something to replace or fix. Disc contamination is a oft used problem with brakes. That requires an expensive but extremely easy fix. If you tell the shop that you want to buy a tire and get a quote prior to the inspection a big 180-190 rear will cost you $230-$250 mounted at a shop, they usually don't find alot wrong with your bike. But it is always better to go to a gas station recommended by mollusks in your area if you want to pass the inspection the first time around. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 10:16:26 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA05602 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:16:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:15:42 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:15:36 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:20:05 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: henwin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Grace period?? -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline A dissenting opinion from an emigre from out there where they don't slap silly stickers all over your vehicles: YOU are responsible for keeping your machine safe to operate, not the state, and not the guy down at the local shop. Virginia's "inspection" is about selling stickers. I've seen more oil-burning, clapped out junk on the roads down here than just about anywhere in the country. Joe (Donning asbestos boxers) Henry wrote: There is a problem with using a service station to inspect a motorcycle. They cannot be counted on to know what they are looking at. I have heard of bikes being passed that weren't safe to ride. Why? because the 'inspector' had no clue about motorcycles. If it were me, I'd prefer to have someone do it who knows what they are looking at. For my money, it makes sense to have a motorcycle inspection station do it. From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 10:33:51 1999 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05865 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:33:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <2M89PKL7>; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:29:51 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Grace period?? -Reply Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:29:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain You haven't been to the mountains of North Carolina or South Carolina lately, have you? Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda Magna -----Original Message----- From: JOE NAGY [mailto:NAGYJ@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 9:20 AM To: henwin@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Grace period?? -Reply A dissenting opinion from an emigre from out there where they don't slap silly stickers all over your vehicles: YOU are responsible for keeping your machine safe to operate, not the state, and not the guy down at the local shop. Virginia's "inspection" is about selling stickers. I've seen more oil-burning, clapped out junk on the roads down here than just about anywhere in the country. Joe (Donning asbestos boxers) From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 10:55:18 1999 Return-Path: schelzig@XXXXXX Received: from research.circ.gwu.edu (research.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.250]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06220 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by research.circ.gwu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA17714 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:57:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:57:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Erik Schelzig X-Sender: schelzig@research To: "'dc'" Subject: idiots on the commute Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII so I'm ambling up the ramp towards memorial circle/bridge off of 110 this morning, when some idiot with Michigan tags pulls into my lane in a last minute move to get off of 110 instead of getting in the back of the line like everyone else. He pulled up along the side of my bike, and was talking on his cellphone. I hit my horn (wimpy though it is) hoping to get his attention, he just kept staring straight ahead, chatting away. finally I decided to take some action and hit his hood with my hand. he kind of looked my way, waved me off and tried to pull ahead of me. I should have just let him go and stopped worrying about him, but the dismissive way in which he focused more on his cell phone than on me on my bike really pissed me off. and so, I gave him the finger ("it's not passe, and still offends"), pulled around him on the right side, and was gone. He's lucky I didn't take my steel toed boot to his front fender or something. I know that violence isn't the answer, but this guy was really something. sorry for the rant, but I had to get it off my chest. Now I remember why I try to avoid rush hour traffic... allbests, erik ==== Erik J. Schelzig http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~schelzig From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 11:05:12 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06473 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2L23HKPB>; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:04:59 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: idiots on the commute Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:04:57 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > He's lucky I didn't take my steel toed boot to his > front fender or something. I know that violence isn't the answer, but this > guy was really something. Been there... done that.... left marks (to bad Tom and J aren't on the list right now.. ohh, the stories that could be told about my foot and a bus..) Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 11:10:54 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06508 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A3F99E30278; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:10:49 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990406110522.012f4310@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:09:33 -0400 To: "'dc'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: idiots on the commute In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:57 AM 4/6/99 , Erik Schelzig wrote: >sorry for the rant, but I had to get it off my chest. Now I remember why >I try to avoid rush hour traffic... I sympathize with you ... I ride in that every day. It's worse now with the tourists coming out, expecially for the Cherry Blossoms. (If it's Tourist Season, why isn't it legal to shoot them?). I find I move back and forth between dissociating myself from traffic, and following the rules. By dissociating, I mean just going with the flow, taking advantage of openings in traffic ... not being very concerned about what might or might not be legal (lane splitting, etc), using the bike's size and agility to position myself best to stay out of the way. Following the rules is better, in general, but then idiots like the one you described will get to you. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 11:17:13 1999 Return-Path: garicao@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (garicao@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06677 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id LAA12486; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:18:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:18:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Garcia Oliver To: Erik Schelzig cc: "'dc'" Subject: Re: idiots on the commute In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Erik Schelzig wrote: [snip] > bike really pissed me off. and so, I gave him the finger ("it's not > passe, and still offends"), pulled around him on the right side, and was > gone. He's lucky I didn't take my steel toed boot to his front fender or > something. I know that violence isn't the answer, but this guy was really > something. Now, now! Shouldn't let your temper cloud your judgement: kicking the front fender is silly---aim for the door. ;^) --garcia From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 11:32:18 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06908 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA15833 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:32:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Inspection (WAS: Grace period??) In-Reply-To: <3776cf5a.243b6cea@aol.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 Boiade@XXXXXX wrote: > But it is always better to go to a gas station recommended by mollusks in > your area if you want to pass the inspection the first time around. Speaking of which, does anyone know of such a place in northern PG/southern Montgomery county area? I know of one in Waldorf but don't want to travel that far just for this, unless I have to... Thanks, Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 11:34:27 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06920 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:34:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990406154152.12306.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web303.yahoomail.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 08:41:52 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:41:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: idiots on the commute To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You mean you allowed him to share lane space with you?? If a cager continues to merge and doesn't instantly respond by to my horn and shouts by getting back in their lane, I don't hesitate one instant applying my size 10, steel shanked, steel toed boot up side their car on the nearest surface!! I figure it's not violence, it's self defense. And I figure my life is worth more than some damn cell phone call. Also, people doing what you mentioned is one of my big pet peeves around here (and I have plenty of em ;-)) It's one thing if it's obviously tourists and they didn't realize they needed over or something, but the ones that piss me off are the ones that you can tell are 100% local and purposely trying to get a few car lengths farther down the road. The dammn idiots don't realize that that behavior is a good portion of why there's a backup to start with! I wish I had a bulldozer when I get to the end of the GW parkway and I see all the stupid MD tags in the left lane blocking traffic for miles, cause they jsut realized they wanted to go to MD where it splits at the end!! Never mind those three sets of signs along the way saying that there was a split.... OK rant off.. back to work for me... Collin (yeah, I know.. preaching to the choir..maybe we should all subscribe to a car email list for a day or two and vent on em for a while ;-)) --- Erik Schelzig wrote: > so I'm ambling up the ramp towards memorial circle/bridge off of 110 > this > morning, when some idiot with Michigan tags pulls into my lane in a > last > minute move to get off of 110 instead of getting in the back of the > line > like everyone else. He pulled up along the side of my bike, and was > talking on his cellphone. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 11:36:33 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07015 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:36:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:36:00 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:35:58 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 10:40:07 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: HolmesM@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Grace period?? -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline OK, maybe I could've included other areas of the CSA--Alabama, for example. Not that this don't happen "Up Nawth," but the cars just don't last as long--rust never sleeps. Joe From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 11:54:31 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07386 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:54:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id kENTa21887; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <879d4e38.243b859d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:43:25 EDT Subject: Re: Inspection (WAS: Grace period??) To: kirk@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/6/99 11:39:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kirk@XXXXXX writes: << Speaking of which, does anyone know of such a place in northern PG/southern Montgomery county area? I know of one in Waldorf but don't want to travel that far just for this, unless I have to... >> Shell station in Greenbelt I think, but call the Dirt Shop in College Park they know the place and have the number. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 12:37:10 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08140 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:37:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21649 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA00147 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (209-122-214-133.s387.tnt3.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.214.133]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA09950 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:36:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36EFD834.74DE@erols.com> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:28:36 -0500 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: bike inspections Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For my nickel, it's a damn poor biker that has to rely on a mandatory inspection to be certain that his bike is in proper operating condition. The purpose of the inspection is help get those vehicles that are unsafe off the road. Few, if any, of those that receive a "REJECTION" sticker are caught unawares...three tires with cord showing on a vehicle belong to an owner that doesn't care what type of menace they are and most likely will be pissed off if their car is rejected. And now on a completely different note...one likely to start a flame war: Did you ever notice the condition of the cars (and the drivers) that have all those "Jesus Saves" kind of bumper stickers? It's like if you're not 100 lbs overweight and your car isn't a piece of shit, then you aren't cleared to have that kind of sticker. -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 13:04:18 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA08603 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:04:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA22133 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:04:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01068 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <2M89PKYN>; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:00:05 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: dc-cycles Subject: RE: bike inspections Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:00:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Careful, careful now. Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda Magna _____________________ And now on a completely different note...one likely to start a flame war: Did you ever notice the condition of the cars (and the drivers) that have all those "Jesus Saves" kind of bumper stickers? It's like if you're not 100 lbs overweight and your car isn't a piece of shit, then you aren't cleared to have that kind of sticker. -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 13:23:26 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA08975 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA22542 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:23:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01523 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lcsa3 (sterling-internal-217.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0F9S00G0E2YAI3@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:23:04 -0400 From: Gary Foreman Subject: RE: bike inspections In-reply-to: <36EFD834.74DE@erols.com> To: Dc-Cycles Message-id: <002c01be8052$21839e20$d929bccc@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) I really think most of the VA inspections are ridiculous. I took my car in once and passed (nothing wrong according to the inspector). A week later, the front brakes were grinding the wear indicators against the rotors. I confronted them, and was told I must have done a LOT of heavy braking in the last week. What a load of $hit! I called the VA state police, and was told I had no grounds file a complaint. I also had to replace my steering wheel on my truck because it was 1/2" smaller than the stock wheel (which had huge chunks of plastic missing from it). I had to chuck the $100 wheel I had and get a new one the EXACT same size for $150. I had it on there for about 8 months, and couldn't return it. It's just another VA racket to take your money, and for locals to dig a little into your pockets for unneeded repairs. Gary Foreman fj1100@XXXXXX http://www.fj1100.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Art Crow [mailto:riders@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 11:29 AM > To: dc-cycles > Subject: bike inspections > > > For my nickel, it's a damn poor biker that has to rely on a mandatory > inspection to be certain that his bike is in proper operating condition. > The purpose of the inspection is help get those vehicles that are unsafe > off the road. Few, if any, of those that receive a "REJECTION" sticker > are caught unawares...three tires with cord showing on a vehicle belong > to an owner that doesn't care what type of menace they are and most > likely will be pissed off if their car is rejected. > > And now on a completely different note...one likely to start a flame > war: Did you ever notice the condition of the cars (and the drivers) > that have all those "Jesus Saves" kind of bumper stickers? It's like if > you're not 100 lbs overweight and your car isn't a piece of shit, then > you aren't cleared to have that kind of sticker. > -- > Art Crow > 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" > 1996 JRT, "Higgins" > 1998 JRT, "Diva" > "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is > better." > From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 13:30:40 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09143 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA22630 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:30:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01685 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:30:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5.mcit.com [166.37.210.27]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA06992; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:29:54 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990406173024.NGOZ24719@[166.41.242.214]>; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:30:24 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Art Crow" , "dc-cycles" Subject: RE: bike inspections Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:27:57 -0400 Message-ID: <001801be8052$cfb546b0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <36EFD834.74DE@erols.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Art Crow wrote: > For my nickel, it's a damn poor biker that has to rely on a mandatory > inspection to be certain that his bike is in proper operating condition. > The purpose of the inspection is help get those vehicles that are unsafe > off the road. Few, if any, of those that receive a "REJECTION" sticker > are caught unawares...three tires with cord showing on a vehicle belong > to an owner that doesn't care what type of menace they are and most > likely will be pissed off if their car is rejected. I'd be willing to bet more than half of those rejected still drive/ride around, oblivious to the potential danger they are to others. But then again, you don't need to drive a POS to be a potential danger. > > And now on a completely different note...one likely to start a flame > war: Did you ever notice the condition of the cars (and the drivers) > that have all those "Jesus Saves" kind of bumper stickers? It's like if > you're not 100 lbs overweight and your car isn't a piece of shit, then > you aren't cleared to have that kind of sticker. My car doesn't have any of those stickers. :-) Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 13:39:36 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09235 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:39:33 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id NAA20135; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:40:07 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma014185; Tue, 6 Apr 99 13:29:42 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9S00CGD3B2JB@XXXXXX>; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525674B.005FF4C6 ; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:27:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 12:53:16 -0400 Subject: Re: idiots on the commute To: "Collin T. Fagan" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525674B.005C8C14.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Nah ... they'd all probably just complain about it, too ... Even for them, it's always "the other guy" that's the problem. --chris To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: "Collin T. Fagan" Date: 04/06/99 03:41:52 PM GMT Subject: Re: idiots on the commute --snip-- (yeah, I know.. preaching to the choir..maybe we should all subscribe to a car email list for a day or two and vent on em for a while ;-)) --snip-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 15:10:46 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11032 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:09:42 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:09:36 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:11:35 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, schelzig@XXXXXX Subject: idiots on the commute -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Hmm, maybe this is why you can buy motorcycle gloves with metal studs in the palms. I've "heard" that they are quite useful in awakening a slumbering cager, helping prevent him or her from committing negligent homicide. Joe "Save lives--shoot car phoners." From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 15:40:13 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11605 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:40:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 379 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:40:03 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990406153646.01301ad0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:40:02 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: idiots on the commute -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:11 AM 4/6/99 , JOE NAGY wrote: >Hmm, maybe this is why you can buy motorcycle gloves with metal studs in >the palms. I've "heard" that they are quite useful in awakening a >slumbering cager, helping prevent him or her from committing negligent >homicide. If they are close enough for you to hit or kick them - and they are still merging - you had better be avoiding them, not thinking of a way to kick them. A friend was on 395 last summer, tooling along in the left lane when a car phone cager merged into his space. He kicked the driver's door, leaving a fair sized dent, and it did not phase the cager as he continued to merge. My friend wound up driving on the shoulder next to the cager, who never realized what he had done. The biker stoppped on the shoulder to shake off the anger - cager kept on rolling.... ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 15:44:39 1999 Return-Path: garicao@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (garicao@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11725 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id PAA00267; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:46:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:46:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Garcia Oliver To: suzuki-l@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Wheel bearing cross-reference guide? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi... Anyone know where there's a wheel bearing cross-reference URL for motorcycles? Thanks. --garcia From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 15:53:25 1999 Return-Path: garicao@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (root@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11952 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id PAA01496; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:52:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:52:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Garcia Oliver To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Kaw parts wanted (GPZ/KZ-550 and KZ-1000) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, again. I'm looking for an oil pan for a 1981 GPZ-550 (stripped drain--I didn't do it!), and (at least) brake parts for a 1978 KZ-1000. Anyone got used stuff? Danke. --garcia "Every murderer is probably somebody's old friend." Agatha Christie From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 16:07:12 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12231 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990406200755.23709.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web308.yahoomail.com; Tue, 06 Apr 1999 13:07:55 PDT Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:07:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: idiots on the commute -Reply To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Mike Troutman wrote: A friend was on 395 last summer, tooling along in the left > lane when > a car phone cager merged into his space. He kicked the driver's > door, > leaving a fair sized dent, and it did not phase the cager as he > continued > to merge. My friend wound up driving on the shoulder next to the > cager, > who never realized what he had done. KICK HARDER!!! I always look for escape route first, but I can do a nice side kick without turning my head that way.. so while I'm getting my escape route I can pound em...That's pretty scary that he kicked the car and the person didn't even notice... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 21:22:04 1999 Return-Path: rdt@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17900 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rdt (209-122-248-198.s198.tnt27.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.248.198]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA26655 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:21:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001301be8095$506dad00$c6f87ad1@rdt> From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: Subject: Country Roads MC Rally in WV Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:23:58 -0400 Organization: Attorney at Law MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE8073.C8942920" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE8073.C8942920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out this site: www.bikeweekwv.com Anyone interested in going? Roy D. Turner, Esq. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE8073.C8942920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Check out this site:   www.bikeweekwv.com  Anyone = interested=20 in going?
Roy D. Turner, Esq.
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE8073.C8942920-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 6 22:11:09 1999 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA18652 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:11:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust010.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.10]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA05317; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:11:05 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990406221027.006ac07c@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 22:10:27 -0400 To: Garcia Oliver , suzuki-l@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Wheel bearing cross-reference guide? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I just took the old one to NAPA, they read the number and found that they had wheel bearings for Tomos Mopeds in stock. Leon At 03:46 PM 4/6/99 -0400, Garcia Oliver wrote: >Hi... > >Anyone know where there's a wheel bearing cross-reference URL for >motorcycles? > >Thanks. > >--garcia > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 07:57:07 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA29337 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:57:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A808D23028C; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 07:56:56 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990407073009.01289a90@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 07:33:58 -0400 To: Garcia Oliver , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Wheel bearing cross-reference guide? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:46 PM 4/6/99 , Garcia Oliver wrote: >Anyone know where there's a wheel bearing cross-reference URL for >motorcycles? >--garcia No, but Motion Industries in Alexandria/Springfield (703-719-6803) was a great help recently with my Honda front wheel (axle) bearings. They looked up the Japan Koyo number in an instant, said it was very common, and apologized that it would actually take them up to 2 days to deliver them to my house ... for $5.74 each. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 09:10:15 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00532 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA32460; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:09:12 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990407130944.SEPK20027@toddnt>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:09:44 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." , Subject: RE: Country Roads MC Rally in WV Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:07:14 -0400 Message-ID: <000301be80f7$8e060830$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE80D6.06F46830" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <001301be8095$506dad00$c6f87ad1@rdt> Importance: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE80D6.06F46830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This actually looks like a lot of fun Roy. Too bad it's the same week of Honda Sport Touring Association STAR99. Todd -----Original Message----- From: Roy D. Turner, Esq. [mailto:rdt@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 9:24 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Country Roads MC Rally in WV Check out this site: www.bikeweekwv.com Anyone interested in going? Roy D. Turner, Esq. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE80D6.06F46830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This=20 actually looks like a lot of fun Roy.  Too bad it's the same week = of Honda=20 Sport Touring Association STAR99.
 
Todd
-----Original Message-----
From: Roy D. Turner, = Esq.=20 [mailto:rdt@XXXXXX]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 9:24=20 PM
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Subject: Country = Roads MC=20 Rally in WV

Check out this site:   www.bikeweekwv.com  = Anyone=20 interested in going?
Roy D. Turner, = Esq.
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE80D6.06F46830-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 09:29:20 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00906 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA07850 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:29:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA25656 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:29:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:28:38 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:28:37 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 08:32:57 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, riders@XXXXXX Subject: bike inspections -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Flame war? Hah! I'd nominate additional vehicles, however. My version of a nightmare cager then, would be a Jesus-fished, carphone-talkin, baby-in-the-back seat, fat, Volvo (or mommyvan) driver. Doing 62 in the left lane. Joe And now on a completely different note...one likely to start a flame war: Did you ever notice the condition of the cars (and the drivers) that have all those "Jesus Saves" kind of bumper stickers? It's like if you're not 100 lbs overweight and your car isn't a piece of shit, then you aren't cleared to have that kind of sticker. -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 10:03:53 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01469 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:03:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2BRS81RV>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:08:38 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC8C0@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Country Roads MC Rally in WV Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:01:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Last year, my wife and I were cruising towards Snowshoe, from Kentucky, on the Sunday that the rally ended. We didn't even know there had been a rally until we got to the resort area Monday morning. We just kept seeing packs of bikes heading south. We stopped about an hour south/southwest of Snowshoe Sunday night and then took a scenic ride through Snowshoe on our way up to Blackwater Falls. Anyway, most of bikes we saw on Sunday were Harleys. Now, I'm wondering if this rally is more of a Harley gathering or is it just that part of the country has more HD per capita, or what? I certainly wouldn't mind going to the rally - there are some great roads around those parts - but don't want to be the only jap bikes in a sea of HD. I'm on a Kawasaki Concours and my wife is on a Kawasaki Eliminator. Has anyone attended this rally? Any feedback? Perry > -----Original Message----- > From: Roy D. Turner, Esq. [SMTP:rdt@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 9:24 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Country Roads MC Rally in WV > > Check out this site: www.bikeweekwv.com > Anyone interested in going? > Roy D. Turner, Esq. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 10:14:16 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01647 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA08527 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26734 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A8298060208; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:14:01 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990407095632.012b4510@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:57:08 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: bike inspections -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" With tinted windows, and out-of-state license plates. Chris Norloff At 08:32 AM 4/7/99 , JOE NAGY wrote: >Flame war? Hah! I'd nominate additional vehicles, however. My version >of a nightmare cager then, would be a Jesus-fished, carphone-talkin, >baby-in-the-back seat, fat, Volvo (or mommyvan) driver. Doing 62 in the >left lane. > >Joe > > >And now on a completely different note...one likely to start a flame >war: Did you ever notice the condition of the cars (and the drivers) >that have all those "Jesus Saves" kind of bumper stickers? It's like if >you're not 100 lbs overweight and your car isn't a piece of shit, then >you aren't cleared to have that kind of sticker. >-- >Art Crow >1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" >1996 JRT, "Higgins" >1998 JRT, "Diva" >"I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is >better." > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 10:22:02 1999 Return-Path: riders@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01836 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:22:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (209-122-252-120.s374.tnt1.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.252.120]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id KAA09518; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36F10A03.6E15@erols.com> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:13:23 -0500 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garcia Oliver CC: suzuki-l@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Wheel bearing cross-reference guide? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wheel bearings are nails...bearing numbers are the same for all bearings with the only difference being the manufacturers name. To get new bearings CHEAP call Motion Specalities in Alexandria and give them the number found on the bearing you want to replace. It's likely they have it in stock at a fraction of the dealers price. Garcia Oliver wrote: > > Hi... > > Anyone know where there's a wheel bearing cross-reference URL for > motorcycles? > > Thanks. > > --garcia -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 10:28:35 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01954 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA18934 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:27:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv11-08.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.8) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma018868; Wed Apr 7 09:27:11 1999 Message-ID: <000901be8102$ac9f6ec0$085e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Country Roads Motorcycle Rally - West Virginia's first all week, all brands mot Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:26:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE80E1.23318F40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE80E1.23318F40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01BE80E1.23318F40" ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01BE80E1.23318F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do not know much about it , and will be attending a wedding so I cant = go, but here is their web site. Let me know how it was if anyone = attends. http://www.bikeweekwv.com/ ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01BE80E1.23318F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Do not know much about it , and will be attending a = wedding so=20 I cant go, but here is their web site.  Let me know how it was if = anyone=20 attends.

 http://www.bikeweekwv.com/= ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01BE80E1.23318F40-- ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE80E1.23318F40 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Country Roads Motorcycle Rally - West Virginia's first all week, all brands motorcycle rally..url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Country Roads Motorcycle Rally - West Virginia's first all week, all brands motorcycle rally..url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://www.bikeweekwv.com/ [DOC#4#5] BASEURL=http://www.bikeweekwv.com/nav.html [DOC#4#6] BASEURL=http://www.bikeweekwv.com/home.html [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.bikeweekwv.com/ Modified=A050CF790281BE017A ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE80E1.23318F40-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 10:31:50 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02046 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2NHJA1RN>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:31:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Bearing info... more Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:31:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) To get new > bearings CHEAP call Motion Specalities in Alexandria and give them the > number found on the bearing you want to replace. It's likely > they have > it in stock at a fraction of the dealers price. Is this true for ALL bearings? Say I need new head bearings of the tapered variety... I pull the number off my current one (which IS tapered) and they can get that to me? Same thing with the swingarm.. How about engine bearings? (I'm thinking of my RS125 here.. 2-smokes eat internal bearings sometimes).... Brian From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 10:33:56 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02057 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA27591 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:33:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA15644; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:28:53 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990407143210.SSUU20027@toddnt>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:32:10 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: Subject: RE: Country Roads MC Rally in WV Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:29:39 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01be8103$11f1d920$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <000301be80f7$8e060830$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Importance: Normal Do'h! Didn't look at the month on this. July! I won't commit, but this does look like a do-able for this year. I'm also trying to arrange for a haul-ass up to Sturgis this year. I've got one other person interested in going. 1642 miles one-way. 1000+ to be covered in 24 hours or less. Anybody else interested? Todd -----Original Message----- From: Todd Peer [mailto:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 9:07 AM To: Roy D. Turner, Esq.; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Country Roads MC Rally in WV This actually looks like a lot of fun Roy. Too bad it's the same week of Honda Sport Touring Association STAR99. Todd -----Original Message----- From: Roy D. Turner, Esq. [mailto:rdt@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 9:24 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Country Roads MC Rally in WV Check out this site: www.bikeweekwv.com Anyone interested in going? Roy D. Turner, Esq. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 11:20:46 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02972 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09521 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28640 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:20:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <2M89PNFC>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:16:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Tires Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:16:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Ok, boys and girls, I need some good advice on tires. I don't want to start any flame wars, but my baby needs new rubber and I'd like some guidance. I can't find any tire comparisons from my old Cycle World magazines. My bike is my car. I ride it everywhere -- work, church, errands, softball practice, etc. -- and do about three trips a year to Atlanta and Norfolk; there may be a trip to Oklahoma in about three months. Weather is not a factor, except for maybe hurricanes. Being the father of a supercharged family, our weekends are usually tied up, so I haven't been able to participate in group rides; I hope I can before the Navy transfers me away from here. I'm not a rider who pushes the limits, but I do look for the roads less traveled when I ride. If I were to participate in a DC Cycle group ride, I would place myself in the medium-to-slow group. I currently have Bridgestone S11s, which I've been happy with (about 9k miles). I bought them for name recognition more than anything else (I like their automobile tires pretty well, but I'm not adamant about them). Before I invest my hard-earned cash, I thought you all could steer me in the right directions. I guess I'm looking for a tire with good (but not necessarily great) handling characteristics and great mileage. What are your recommendations? Radials vs. bias? Is there a tire I should absolutely stay away from? Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda Magna From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 11:21:40 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02982 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA22704 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:21:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA29085; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:24:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904071524.LAA29085@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Chris Norloff Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:23:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: bike inspections -Reply Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4.1.19990407095632.012b4510@mail.toward.com> References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) My wife's cage has a Jesus fish on it, but no car phone. She also rides... hummmmm??? :) > At 08:32 AM 4/7/99 , JOE NAGY wrote: > >Flame war? Hah! I'd nominate additional vehicles, however. My version > >of a nightmare cager then, would be a Jesus-fished, carphone- talkin, snip.... Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 11:29:23 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03113 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A9C850E027A; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:29:12 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990407112508.01288d70@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:26:41 -0400 To: Art Crow , Garcia Oliver From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Wheel bearing cross-reference guide? Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <36F10A03.6E15@erols.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Art - I looked for Motion Specialties, but found only Motion Industries (who seem like a VERY good bearing source). They said there used to be a Motion Specialties in their industrial park, but they're gone now. I think Motion Industries is the one you were thinking of. Chris Norloff At 10:13 AM 3/18/99 , Art Crow wrote: >Wheel bearings are nails...bearing numbers are the same for all bearings >with the only difference being the manufacturers name. To get new >bearings CHEAP call Motion Specalities in Alexandria and give them the >number found on the bearing you want to replace. It's likely they have >it in stock at a fraction of the dealers price. > >Garcia Oliver wrote: >> >> Hi... >> >> Anyone know where there's a wheel bearing cross-reference URL for >> motorcycles? >> >> Thanks. >> >> --garcia > > >-- >Art Crow >1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" >1996 JRT, "Higgins" >1998 JRT, "Diva" >"I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is >better." From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 11:32:31 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03224 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2NHJAFHG>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:32:26 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Tires Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:32:24 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Oh Leon... hey, yea. you.. the one with the Authentic John Deere motorcycle.. *chuckle*.. you'd probably be the best source for answering this. I'm all the other way.. I don't care about mileage (much), but want GREAT grip, especially in foul (rain, sleet, snow, ice, sand) weather. And of course, nice ride characteristics too.. Brian > Before I invest my hard-earned cash, I thought you all could > steer me in the > right directions. I guess I'm looking for a tire with good (but not > necessarily great) handling characteristics and great > mileage. What are your > recommendations? Radials vs. bias? Is there a tire I should > absolutely > stay away from? From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 12:02:38 1999 Return-Path: SKPAH@XXXXXX Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03878 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:02:37 -0400 (EDT) From: SKPAH@XXXXXX Received: from SKPAH@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.4) id hELHa15822; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <297456d4.243cdae5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:59:33 EDT Subject: Re: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: SKPAH@XXXXXX In a related issue, I saw signs at Coleman PowerSport saying they're semi-sponsoring a ride up to summit meeting at 9am and leaving at 9:15 on Sunday morning....They're also supposed to have discount tickets available...a couple of bucks off..but I don't they have received them from the track yet...for sure the ride is leaving from falls church and is probably going out of the woodbridge store also..better call to be sure Steve 77 CB400F Grey Hein Gerick jacket Red/White/Black AGV From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 12:03:22 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03888 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10112 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:03:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA00435 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990407160932.27421.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web307.yahoomail.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:09:32 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:09:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Tires To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK, nobody laugh, but .... I really like the IRC Roadwinner Ow01 (or something like that) that I have on the Maxim. They seem to stick and handle amazingly well (well enough to grind every darn hard part on the maxim, even with me hanging off like a monkey). They are also very nice in the rain. I've only had them on the bike for aboout 1500 miles, but so far it looks like there has been very little wear... I'm guessing 10k miles easily! Collin --- "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" wrote: > Ok, boys and girls, I need some good advice on tires. I don't want > to start > any flame wars, but my baby needs new rubber and I'd like some > guidance. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 12:10:32 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA04024 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:10:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990407161202.8253.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web301.yahoomail.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:12:02 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:12:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: AMA - American Motorcyclist article To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In the May '99 American Motorcyclist, there is an article about DC-Cycle's frequent contributor, Henry Winokur. (starts on pg. 27) Seems he got pulled over by the police for having a headlight modulator on his bike, and the officer thought it was a violation of the law against flashing lights. Henry fought back (alone) with a letter writting campaign, and won. Good job! Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 12:26:42 1999 Return-Path: SKPAH@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04301 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:26:40 -0400 (EDT) From: SKPAH@XXXXXX Received: from SKPAH@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id zKZIa11768; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:22:47 EDT Subject: Re: Insurance Question - VA To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: SKPAH@XXXXXX todd, as an agent, i feel pretty confident telling you that the liability limits for your motorcycle are just what they state on the declaration page of your policy...as a rule, upgrading your bike policy to match your auto's liability is pretty easy and cheap ...your agent is the best place to check on this good luck steve 77 CB400F From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 12:51:39 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA04924 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990407165758.3078.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web307.yahoomail.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:57:58 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:57:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Personally, I think it would be quite a shame to have to pay $18 (unless they have some special arrangement with the track for less $$$) to only get to see a few hours of racing....but that's me :) Any of the area dealers should have advance tickets for $18 (versus $20 at the gate). And for your midweek reminder.... ;-) Gates open at 7 PM this Friday night. Brian McCoy and I will be sure to be there right about that time.... DC-Cycles racing will have a 10'x20' pit area across from the restrooms along the cold pit. We'll be easy to spot with the 10' DC-Cycles Racing Banner in Red on Black (thanks a million Franz, it looks great!!!). If you STILL can't find us, my bike is a GSXR750 with stock 96 bodywork on it (gold/brown) with the red beak of death on it (red fender). And if that still isn't enough, we'll have nifty dc-cycles racing T-shirts on sporting our fancy new logo designed by Richard Crishock! Normally, I have more than enough food and drink to go around, but I'm poor this month and won't have a lot of estras... but I will have a cooler and a small BBQ grill, so feel free to bring anything you like along and store it/cook it with us. Also, my truck will be next to the pit most likely, so feel free to lock up helmets and other riding gear in it if you like. I'll try to position it so that we have a nice sized dc-cycles parking area alongside the pit... Now for the good stuff....Practice starts at 0800. The first sessions are generally slower since the track is cold and so are the riders... but by the second go around, everything is warmed up and folks are generally at or near full race speeds and some interesting dicing occurs between people who know and like/hate each other... Racing starts around noon each day. I'm slated for 4 races this weekend, and if the schedule is similar to last year, that means one 20 lap race on Saturday and three 8 lap races on Sunday. Jay St. Peter and Joe Nagy are sure to be in lots of races as well since their smaller displacement bikes make them eligible for a lot more races. Saturday night is sure to be a hoot with lots of benchracing around a nice big bonfire followed by camping as usual... So come one come all... Collin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 13:00:49 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05146 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA15418 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:51:40 EST Message-Id: <199904071251.AA84476196@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Country Roads MC Rally in WV X-Mailer: How long do you plan on staying? I'd love to go, but I'd probably get fed up with the crowds after a day or two... Yes, I'm interested. Dale ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Todd Peer" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:29:39 -0400 I'm also trying to arrange for a haul-ass up to Sturgis this year. I've got one other person interested in going. 1642 miles one-way. 1000+ to be covered in 24 hours or less. Anybody else interested? Todd -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - Her's. Mine. Ours. :) 1987 Suzuki Savage - Unretired. 1998 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer - RIP :( -- From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 13:08:55 1999 Return-Path: mehran7@XXXXXX Received: from web120.yahoomail.com (web120.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.121]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05269 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:08:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990407171014.9096.rocketmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.49.117.168] by web120.yahoomail.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:10:14 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:10:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Mehran Subject: 1999 R1 For Sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1804289383-923505014=:9042" --0-1804289383-923505014=:9042 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Anyone interested in a 1999 Yamaha YZF 1000 R1??? It's brand new. Has only 600 miles on it. It's adult owned and has been broken in properly. Just had it serviced for its first 500 mile tune up. It has a Vance & Hines S4 Slip-on pipe. It's Red & White. $13,500 OBO. Moving Soon. Serious Inquiries only: e-mail mehran7@XXXXXX 202-429-4697 Pictures of it are attached. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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oC6AugV0BdAXQCAugV0Bzugs2RkKAsihVAgLIoRCsgEUWQFkBZAWQFkBZAWs gLICyAQFkBZAIBAIBAIBAIBAIBAIEgEAgEAgEC5oBAIBAIEgaBIBAIBFJAXQ CBIBAIBAroC6AQF0BdAroBAIFdAIBAXQF0BdAroC6AugSoLoP//Z --0-1804289383-923505014=:9042-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 13:21:39 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05546 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 17:21:34 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA02059 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:21:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point In-Reply-To: <19990407165758.3078.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Gates open at 7 PM this Friday night. Brian McCoy and I will be sure > to be there right about that time.... DC-Cycles racing will have a > 10'x20' pit area across from the restrooms along the cold pit. We'll > be easy to spot with the 10' DC-Cycles Racing Banner in Red on Black > (thanks a million Franz, it looks great!!!). If you STILL can't find > us, my bike is a GSXR750 with stock 96 bodywork on it (gold/brown) with > the red beak of death on it (red fender). And if that still isn't > enough, we'll have nifty dc-cycles racing T-shirts on sporting our > fancy new logo designed by Richard Crishock! Normally, I have more > than enough food and drink to go around, but I'm poor this month and > won't have a lot of estras... but I will have a cooler and a small BBQ > grill, so feel free to bring anything you like along and store it/cook > it with us. Also, my truck will be next to the pit most likely, so > feel free to lock up helmets and other riding gear in it if you like. > I'll try to position it so that we have a nice sized dc-cycles parking > area alongside the pit... I can relish in the fact that I am going to BEAT COLLIN TO THE TRACK! In fact, unless you've gone earlier this year, I'll be on the track before you *grin*. Signed up for friday at the track, this friday.. unfortunatley, I'm taking my cage, but it should be fun nonetheless. I was always wondering what it FELT like to drive around summit point, this should give me a sampling, at least. For those who care, I should have a VTR within a week or so. A used 98.. I found two EXCELLENT ones for $6500. I have a bit of a dillema as to which one I want, so I thought I'd run it by you guys. There's one in the NJ area, with about 16k miles. Mint, high slip on, but other than that, stock. There's one in the IL area (he's willing to drive halfway, so its the same drive), that also has 16k miles, but has TONS of mods. Corbin seat, TBR aluminum slip on, yellow powder-coated rims/wheels from the factory, etc, etc. About $1000 in aftermarket stuff. Bad part is that it has a 1/8" crack in the left fairing (bike was tipped over) and it has scratches on the gas tank, but they are not visible as they are covered up by the seat. The tires are somewhat worn, (1-2k of life left), brakes need replacing, etc. I'd prefer to get the one in IL, since its the same price.. and a crack on the fairing doesn't bother me in the least. On the other hand, I know its been ridden fairly hard, and after driving 5 hours, it would be somewhat hard to back out of the deal should the bike appear uglier in person than it sounds. On the other hand, I feel like I'm passing up a "good deal" if I go with the one in NJ. Input? Thanks, Alex. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 13:55:20 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06234 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id ABF585502A8; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:55:01 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990407125913.01294df0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:00:00 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: VICTOR McLAGLEN MOTOR CORPS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Impressive! VICTOR McLAGLEN MOTOR CORPS http://www.bzb.com/vmmc/index.htm Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 13:58:41 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06321 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA04336; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:57:21 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990407175753.UCWH20027@toddnt>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:57:53 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Alex Milenkovic" , Subject: RE: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:55:22 -0400 Message-ID: <001c01be811f$ce7c6260$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal Go with the one in Illinois with the intention of making the deal, but don't feel obligated if it is NOT what you thought. In any negotiation you must be prepared to walk away. Is it necessary to pass on a "good deal" in NJ? Maybe you can tell the guy in NJ if you are really interested that you'll call him by such-such a time (very shortly after your IL trip), and follow through with meeting him if things go that way. Todd > -----Original Message----- > > I'd prefer to get the one in IL, since its the same price.. and > a crack on the fairing doesn't bother me in the least. On the > other hand, I know its been ridden fairly hard, and after > driving 5 hours, it would be somewhat hard to back out of the > deal should the bike appear uglier in person than it sounds. > On the other hand, I feel like I'm passing up a "good deal" > if I go with the one in NJ. > > Input? > > Thanks, > > Alex. > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 14:03:44 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06437 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2NLKTPZV>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:02:48 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" Cc: "'kirk@XXXXXX'" Subject: Inspection & Shops Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:02:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain > But it is always better to go to a gas station recommended by mollusks in > your area if you want to pass the inspection the first time around. Kirk Roy asked, " Speaking of which, does anyone know of such a place in northern PG/southern Montgomery county area? I know of one in Waldorf but don't want to travel that far just for this, unless I have to..." The Exxon Station at Democracy & Old Georgetown used to do motorcycle inspections (and may still) They were recommended by the folks at Myers Cycles (301) 897-0050 (They don't do inspections). Guy who did the inspection had a Hardly (so was used to fixin' stuff ;^) The Dirt/Motorcycle Shop (301) 474-2228 may also have recommendations. Re reliable wrenches: Thomas Garage in Laurel was excellent but (sigh) dropped out of motorcycle wrenching >10 years ago. Have had both good and so-so experience with Clinton - but that was long ago when they were in Clinton and a Suzuki dealer. I've heard good stuff from several sources about Myers and Free State. Have seen screw ups from Cycles USA but have had no personal problems when they mounted tires (long ago when their sale prices were competitive) Too bad Checkbook hasn't done a motorcycle shop survey for recommendations as they have done with cage, roof, dental, and plumbing repair. But - then that's something a tyro can get from this list. Carl in Bethesda (Happy to be able to most of it myself or have curtis the sailor man pitch in) From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 14:16:06 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06743 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10Uwpi-0002nS-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:13:50 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA26590 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00f701be8123$5844e0a0$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: Subject: Used VTR. Was: WERA racing Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:20:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 >There's one in the NJ area, with about 16k miles. Mint, high slip >on, but other than that, stock. > >There's one in the IL area (he's willing to drive halfway, so its >the same drive), that also has 16k miles, but has TONS of mods I would tell both of them that you have found a similar bike for the same price (or for a slightly lower price, if you dont have a problem with a little dishonesty) and could they come down in price a little to help you decide. If the guy in IL is willing to drive that far to sell his bike he probably is having a hard time selling it locally which may indicate several things, none of them good. It may not be in as great a shape as he is letting on, or worse. Can he get you a picture of it and close-ups of the damage he described to you? If he is having a hard time selling it and he is willing to make the drive then I bet he would be willing to come down a few hundred bucks to make your decision easier. Another approach is to meet the guy half way and then offer him less hoping that he figures since he drove this far already he may just want to get the deal done, however he may do the same to you and you may find out the bike is not as clean as he said originally but he figures you went that far so maybe you will buy it anyway. I personally would go for the one in NJ because it is cleaner and I prefer to buy bikes as close to stock as possible. In terms of resale, damage takes away more than aftermarket stuff adds. Plus as you said the IL bike may have been ridden pretty hard. You may have already done this but I would ask to see copies of maintenance records to verify maintenance was done at the right times for both bikes. Also ask what type of riding was done primarily. >There's one in the NJ area, with about 16k miles. Mint, high slip >on, but other than that, stock. > >There's one in the IL area (he's willing to drive halfway, so its >the same drive), that also has 16k miles, but has TONS of mods. >Corbin seat, TBR aluminum slip on, yellow powder-coated rims/wheels >from the factory, etc, etc. About $1000 in aftermarket stuff. >Bad part is that it has a 1/8" crack in the left fairing (bike >was tipped over) and it has scratches on the gas tank, but they >are not visible as they are covered up by the seat. The tires >are somewhat worn, (1-2k of life left), brakes need replacing, etc. > >I'd prefer to get the one in IL, since its the same price.. and >a crack on the fairing doesn't bother me in the least. On the >other hand, I know its been ridden fairly hard, and after >driving 5 hours, it would be somewhat hard to back out of the >deal should the bike appear uglier in person than it sounds. >On the other hand, I feel like I'm passing up a "good deal" >if I go with the one in NJ. > >Input? > >Thanks, > >Alex. > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 14:24:28 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA06862 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:24:27 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id OAA25488; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:24:35 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma005439; Wed, 7 Apr 99 13:47:37 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9T00L8UYPAA6@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:48:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525674C.006160A2 ; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:43:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:35:50 -0400 Subject: Re: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525674C.006067DE.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I seem to recall that there is a campground on the infield at Summit - what are the facilities like? Are there showers & restrooms? Is there an extra cost for camping? Chris Weaver VTR1000 Superhawk From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 14:37:41 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07135 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:37:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2NLKTQAL>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:37:01 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" Subject: idiots on the commute Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:37:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Collin meekly commented, "You mean you allowed him to share lane space with you?? If a cager continues to merge and doesn't instantly respond by to my horn and shouts by getting back in their lane, I don't hesitate one instant applying my size 10, steel shanked, steel toed boot up side their car on the nearest surface!! I figure it's not violence, it's self defense." Letting the cage in the same lane is like letting a camel stick his nose under the tent. Once they're there, you'll lose any head butting contest. So, keep 'em out. 1) Get thee to Pep Boys. For $20 to $40 they have a collection of LOUD horns. Most will easily replace the stock meepers; others will need a little ingenuity to install. 2) Resolve NOT to rely on the new loud horns alone. Humans, even BDC's, react faster to visual input than audio. Remember (& practice) the stuff about lane placement, being conspicuous, Yadda . . . Carl in Bethesda (loud shirts save lives!) Long ago in Texas, I used to leave a empty wiper blade box on the front seat for the annual inspection. Never bought another new one -- at inspection time -- only paid for "head light adjustment". In Maryland, the first vehicle inspection is so-oo good, another isn't needed until they're sold. ;^> From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 14:39:26 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07179 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:39:24 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id OAA03570; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:39:38 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma013785; Wed, 7 Apr 99 14:02:28 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9T00KLRZHVT7@XXXXXX>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525674C.0062F295 ; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:00:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:54:35 -0400 Subject: Re: 1999 R1 For Sale To: Mehran Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525674C.0062456B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I thought this sort of thing was limited to Usenet... Surely there aren't any suckers of this type on our mailing list? Chris Weaver VTR1000 Superhawk To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: Mehran Date: 04/07/99 05:10:14 PM GMT Subject: 1999 R1 For Sale Anyone interested in a 1999 Yamaha YZF 1000 R1??? It's brand new. Has only 600 miles on it. It's adult owned and has been broken in properly. Just had it serviced for its first 500 mile tune up. It has a Vance & Hines S4 Slip-on pipe. It's Red & White. $13,500 OBO. Moving Soon. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 14:49:19 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (web305.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.187]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07435 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990407185641.3011.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web305.yahoomail.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:56:41 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:56:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes, the entire infield is wooded area that makes for great camping. $20 ($18 advance) gets you in the gate from Friday evening to Sunday evening. No extra charges for camping, etc. They do indeed have shower and toilet facilities; however, don't expect hot water in the male side ( I hear the female shower usually has warm to hot water, but obviously I haven't checked ;-)) They also have a cafeteria with decent food at reasonable (for a sporting event) prices. I also forgot to mention that if you volunteer to cornerwork, you get in for free, they feed you, and like Brian mentioned, you have the second best seat in the house. If you ever plan to race, cornerworking in advance will make you go faster, guaranteed!! Collin (Is it Friday yet?? I'm sooo tired of looking at boat blueprints!! I wanna ride!!) --- christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > I seem to recall that there is a campground on the infield at Summit > - what > are the facilities like? Are there showers & restrooms? Is there an > extra > cost for camping? > > Chris Weaver > VTR1000 Superhawk > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 14:53:03 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07534 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10UxQ8-000420-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:51:28 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA25529 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <011401be8128$9d57bb40$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: Subject: Re: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:58:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 >I seem to recall that there is a campground on the infield at Summit - what >are the facilities like? There are plenty of places to camp at Summit. I think the only place to get electricity (if you require it) is near the pits, but I could be mistaken. Are there showers & restrooms? Showers and restrooms . . . yes . . . but sometimes it is hard to tell the difference. The only showers i know of are in the pit area. There are portable restrooms scatered about the infield. >Is there an extra >cost for camping? No. Dave Cross Sponsored by Fast Lane Cycles http://www.fastlanecycles.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 14:53:19 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (web305.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.187]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07544 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990407190042.3416.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web305.yahoomail.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:00:42 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:00:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: 1999 R1 For Sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Actually, he's been a regular lister for a while now... If I recall, Mehran's wife purchased the R1 for him not too very long ago... Other than an overly optimistic price (plenty of low mileage ones around or under $10k...ask Tom T. he's had two now!), I'm sure the bike is all that he says it is.. --- christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > I thought this sort of thing was limited to Usenet... Surely there > aren't > any suckers of this type on our mailing list? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 15:01:17 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07779 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:01:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990407190404.22975.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web304.yahoomail.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:04:04 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:04:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point To: Alex Milenkovic , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well...... Actually I was out at the track 3 weeks ago for that Team Pro Motion track day. However, I only cornerworked on Saturday.. was going to ride on Sunday, but it rained all day and I didn't go back out... Do they run FATT on the main track?? I thought they did the JC...may just have to head out earlier then ;-) Collin --- Alex Milenkovic wrote: > I can relish in the fact that I am going to BEAT COLLIN TO THE TRACK! > In fact, unless you've gone earlier this year, _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 15:05:02 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07798 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id TAA15216; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:03:56 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990407190428.UOFO20027@toddnt>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:04:28 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: RE: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:01:55 -0400 Message-ID: <002301be8129$1af10d40$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <8525674C.006067DE.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Importance: Normal The price of entry gets you: - allowed camping anywhere on the infield and some of the outerbanks - a shower, but you'd be better off bathing in the Shenandoah - there is one main restroom (where the scuzzy (1) shower is) and numerous porta-johns. - seating and standing anywhere behind the fences on any part of the track See you there! Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX > [mailto:christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 1:36 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point > > > I seem to recall that there is a campground on the infield at > Summit - what > are the facilities like? Are there showers & restrooms? Is there an extra > cost for camping? > > Chris Weaver > VTR1000 Superhawk > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 15:21:51 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08188 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13322 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:21:45 -0400 (EDT) From: ddiefend@XXXXXX Received: from ibmmail.COM (ibmmail.com [204.146.168.193]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA07186 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:21:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ibmmail.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via spool with SMTP id 3103 ; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:21:41 1 E Received: from mail1.dominionsc.com [32.72.67.7] by imxgate.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:21:34 1 E Received: by mail1.dominionsc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (778.2 1-4-1999)) id 8525674C.006A6D37 ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:22:27 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: DSC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525674C.006A6C7F.00@mail1.dominionsc.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:22:01 -0400 Subject: bike to bike communicators Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I know this has been discussed some before.... I want to be able to communicate with an other bike, and also have intercom communications with a passenger. I want to stay cheap, as the budget dictates........ What have you tried that does not work? what works? I have the articles from MCN, but always value some actual experience. I am looking at either the Maxon HX or the Chatterbox HJC-90. Neither really offer much range, but my wife is always within sight. We do not have windshields, and my Harley is louder than stock, but not drag pipe loud. TIA, Dave From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 15:24:56 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08206 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:24:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id PAA25830; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:24:49 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from viking.concentric.net (viking [206.173.119.81]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id PAA14711; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:24:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 1999 R1 For Sale In-Reply-To: <8525674C.0062456B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ah damn, and I just spent my last $10,000 on an 800 Vulcan . ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 15:36:09 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08561 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:36:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10Uy5q-0005By-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:34:34 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA14893 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <014801be812e$9fbd13c0$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: Subject: Re: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:41:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 >I also forgot to mention that if you volunteer to cornerwork, you get >in for free, they feed you, and like Brian mentioned, you have the >second best seat in the house. If you ever plan to race, cornerworking >in advance will make you go faster, guaranteed!! Please take Collin's advice! Cornerworking is a lot of fun! If you cornerwork you get in free, get lunch (and dinner on Saturday) and get to see the races up close. If you work both Saturday and Sunday you get a free MARRC membership, if you work more days throughout the season you can get hats and jackets. I knew nothing about cornerworking the first time I did it and I had a blast. You definitely feel apart of the action . . . because you are. While cornerworking everyone gets a headset so you can listen in on whats going on around the track as the cornerworkers report in incidents, or ask other cornerworkers to "look for oil coming from amateur #210 on a Suzuki". MARRC has some of the most professional cornerworkers in the country, and there are usually 2-3 workers per corner, sometimes more. If you are new they put you with someone experienced to show you the ropes. Again, you dont need to know a thing about cornerworking, just be willing to learn. The racers depend on the cornerworkers to tell them whats coming around that blind corner, whats on the other side of the hill, or provide them with assistance if they go down. I got a real sense of satisfaction after each race when the racers said thank you with their waves from their bikes on the cool-down lap. Now that I am a racer I make it a point to acknowledge their contribution to my fun with a big "thank you" wave. So please try it at least once, I promise you will be glad you did. For more info go to http://marrc.nova.org Dave Cross CCS & WERA #416am Sponsored by Fast Lane Cycles http://ww.fastlanecycles.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 15:45:42 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08797 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2BRS87PW>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:50:32 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC8C2@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 1999 R1 For Sale Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:43:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Hugh, And did you get a date? ;^) Perry > -----Original Message----- > From: Hugh A. Caldwell [SMTP:Turnip@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 3:25 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: 1999 R1 For Sale > > > Ah damn, and I just spent my last $10,000 on an > 800 Vulcan . > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 15:46:34 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08815 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:46:28 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV3N40Z3; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:46:21 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31KBGB; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:46:22 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 8525674C.006C9CFB ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:46:20 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525674C.006C929F.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:46:55 -0400 unsubscribe dc-cycles-digest@XXXXXX djonesj@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 16:10:00 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09414 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:09:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2NLKTQPR>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:08:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" , "'Hugh A. Caldwell'" Subject: RE: idiots on the commute Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:08:56 -0400 Sensitivity: Personal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain > >2) Resolve NOT to rely on the new loud horns alone. Humans, even BDC's, > >react faster to visual input than audio. Remember (& practice) the stuff > >about lane placement, being conspicuous, Yadda . . . > > " Uhh, so should I carry a paint ball gun or with me" [Carl sez] I've been thinking so-oo hard about a paint ball gun. Probably against the law since it "discharges a projectile". Might as well have a panzerfaust. Eggs? Hmmm, did you ever read any of Robert Axelrod's stuff? "or should I wave a flag when someone tries to merge into me?" [Carl sez] Well, according to Hanlon's razor* if it's ignorance not evilness, then a flag would "help" alert the BDC to the error of its way. A horn "helps" alert them, just don't depend on to save your butt. Carl in Bethesda (Panzerfaust, hmmm, what's Ranger's phone number? =:^O ) *Hanlon's Razor "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 16:17:49 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09624 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:17:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id UAA03222; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:17:20 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990407201704.VBJX20027@toddnt>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:17:04 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: , "Mehran" Cc: Subject: RE: 1999 R1 For Sale Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:14:31 -0400 Message-ID: <002901be8133$3f124630$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <8525674C.0062456B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Importance: Normal What? You mean you don't have 13 large lying around? ;) Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX > [mailto:christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 1:55 PM > To: Mehran > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: 1999 R1 For Sale > > > I thought this sort of thing was limited to Usenet... Surely there aren't > any suckers of this type on our mailing list? > > Chris Weaver > VTR1000 Superhawk > > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > cc: > From: Mehran > Date: 04/07/99 05:10:14 PM GMT > Subject: 1999 R1 For Sale > > > > > Anyone interested in a 1999 Yamaha YZF 1000 R1??? > It's brand new. Has only 600 miles on it. It's adult > owned and has been broken in properly. Just had it > serviced for its first 500 mile tune up. It has a > Vance & Hines S4 Slip-on pipe. It's Red & White. > $13,500 OBO. Moving Soon. > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 16:25:44 1999 Return-Path: rdrdr@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09776 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:25:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (207-172-239-249.s58.as8.rkv.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.239.249]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id QAA06990 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:25:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001d01be814d$ad04f240$f9efaccf@default> From: "rdrdr" To: Subject: Re: Boots Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:23:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE8112.FFD50EA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE8112.FFD50EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found myself the Garne dual-sport boots which aren't cheep ($150) but = alot of the time, especially when commuting I ride with hiking boots = which I figure will do an o.k. job. If you're looking for hikers or combat boots check out = www.sportsmansguide.com for really amazing deals (I got a pair of = Hi-Teks for $30, a pair of Asolos - a VERY good Italian brand - for = $45). Mike T wrote:
I found myself the Garne dual-sport boots which aren't cheep ($150) = but=20 alot of the time, especially when commuting I ride with hiking boots = which I=20 figure will do an o.k. job.
 
If you're looking for hikers or combat boots check out www.sportsmansguide.com for = really=20 amazing deals (I got a pair of Hi-Teks for $30, a pair of Asolos - a = VERY good=20 Italian brand - for $45).
 
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<have been able to find reasonably priced = comfortable riding=20 boots <yet.  I
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<good grip, and protect my=20 ankles.  The plan is to buy what I would <call
<'firemans=20 boots'.  Not the rubber waders - the water proof zip=20 up
<nylon/cordura style.  Just a bit out of my price range = still=20 ;-(
------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE8112.FFD50EA0-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 16:31:13 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09970 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:31:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id UAA07983 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:30:07 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990407203038.VDUN20027@toddnt> for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:30:38 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Suzook Dealers Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:28:06 -0400 Message-ID: <002c01be8135$24aefc50$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Looking for good experiences from Suzi owners and the dealers (local, w/in 100 miles) they bought from. Got a friend at work interested in the new SV650. Todd From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 16:39:42 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10081 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA14559 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:38:58 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA10237 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:38:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id QAA07917; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:39:15 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma010818; Wed, 7 Apr 99 15:47:11 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9U00I6Z4CBFI@XXXXXX>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:48:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525674C.006C87BD ; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:45:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:44:04 -0400 Subject: Re: bike to bike communicators To: ddiefend@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525674C.006C2707.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Unfortunately, I have found that these two goals (quality communicators and low cost) are mutually exclusive. I tried several systems and finally ended up throwing in the towel and shelling out the $$$ for J&M. The J&M system works very well, and I recommend you go straight for it and not waste $$ on trying other systems in the hopes they will work (like I did). --chris From: ddiefend@XXXXXX Date: 04/07/99 07:22:01 PM GMT Subject: bike to bike communicators I know this has been discussed some before.... I want to be able to communicate with an other bike, and also have intercom communications with a passenger. I want to stay cheap, as the budget dictates........ From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 16:40:21 1999 Return-Path: rdrdr@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10094 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:40:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (207-172-239-249.s58.as8.rkv.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.239.249]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id QAA20291 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:40:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002501be814f$b1d246e0$f9efaccf@default> From: "rdrdr" To: Subject: Re: Idiots on the commute Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:38:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01BE8115.04AB8B00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01BE8115.04AB8B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A good friend of my dad's (with about 45 years of motorcycling) taught = me something interesting: A car's side mirrors will bend forward and aft, and tilt a bit around = their horizontal axis, but if you put your hand over it and apply = downward pressure (not much pressure either) it comes right off. Back when I was in the army I had half my platoon shaving with car = mirrors in the field. Much better than using your boots, and besides- the damned fools dont = use them anyway. Collin Wrote:
A good friend of my dad's (with about 45 years of motorcycling) = taught me=20 something interesting:
 
A car's side mirrors will bend forward and aft, and tilt a bit = around their=20 horizontal axis, but if you put your hand over it and apply downward = pressure=20 (not much pressure either) it comes right off.
Back when I was in the army I had half my platoon shaving with car = mirrors=20 in the field.
Much better than using your boots, and besides- the damned fools = dont use=20 them anyway.
 
Collin Wrote:
<You mean you allowed him to share lane space with = you??
<If a=20 cager continues to merge and doesn't instantly respond by to = my
<horn and=20 shouts by getting back in their lane, I don't hesitate = one
<instant=20 applying my size 10, steel shanked, steel toed boot up side
<their = car on=20 the nearest surface!!

<I figure it's not violence, it's self=20 defense.  And I figure my life is
<worth more than some damn = cell=20 phone call.

<Also, people doing what you mentioned is one of = my big=20 pet peeves
<around here (and I have plenty of em ;-))  It's = one thing=20 if it's
<obviously tourists and they didn't realize they needed = over=20 or
<something, but the ones that piss me off are the ones that you = can=20 <tell
<are 100% local and purposely trying to get a few car = lengths=20 farther
<down the road.  The dammn idiots don't realize that = that=20 behavior is <a
<good portion of why there's a backup to start=20 with!

I wish I had a bulldozer when I get to the end of the GW = parkway=20 and I
see all the stupid MD tags in the left lane blocking traffic = for=20 miles,
cause they jsut realized they wanted to go to MD where it = splits at=20 the
end!!  Never mind those three sets of signs along the way = saying=20 that
there was a split....

OK rant off.. back to work for=20 me...

Collin
------=_NextPart_000_0022_01BE8115.04AB8B00-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 16:44:09 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (web306.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.188]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA10196 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:44:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990407204406.8745.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.111.139] by web306.yahoomail.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:44:06 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:44:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point To: David Cross , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey hey hey!!!! The bike is ugly in appearance, but underneath she's in excellent shape... Besides, I'm number 305 this season ;-p Collin :) --- David Cross wrote: > or ask other cornerworkers to "look for oil coming from amateur #210 > on a > Suzuki". _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 16:51:04 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA10414 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 7 Apr 1999 20:51:00 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA15779 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:50:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 1999 R1 For Sale In-Reply-To: <002901be8133$3f124630$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've never understood this. Okay, last year R1s were rare. Now, however, there are PLENTY! And the sticker price on an R1 is $10,000. So. I'm going to pay $13000 for a bike that has been used? What is this, a harley? Dont think so! Wait. No. It has a slip on. Thus the extra 3k. Thats what I get for being sloppy and not reading thoroughly. SHEESH. Alex. > What? You mean you don't have 13 large lying around? ;) > > Todd > > > > > I thought this sort of thing was limited to Usenet... Surely there aren't > > any suckers of this type on our mailing list? > > > > Chris Weaver > > VTR1000 Superhawk > > > > > > Anyone interested in a 1999 Yamaha YZF 1000 R1??? > > It's brand new. Has only 600 miles on it. It's adult > > owned and has been broken in properly. Just had it > > serviced for its first 500 mile tune up. It has a > > Vance & Hines S4 Slip-on pipe. It's Red & White. > > $13,500 OBO. Moving Soon. > > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 17:05:08 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10765 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:04:10 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:04:04 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:08:19 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gixer_racer@XXXXXX Subject: Re: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for the plug Collin, but it looks like I'm still on the DL where combat is concerned. I'm hoping to be there as a spectator/bike pusher on Saturday though. See yez! Joe Black/Red Ninja 900 or big ugly rusty Ford truck From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 17:41:40 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11379 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:41:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id hIUCa21233; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:35:47 EDT Subject: Re: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point -Reply To: NAGYJ@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gixer_racer@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX Speaking of Summit Point, I would like to go Saturday afternoon (getting back from out-of-town late morning) but I'll probably go Sunday AM on my bike. Is anyone planning to go up either of those days/times from Maryland area. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 17:50:42 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA11622 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:50:40 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id RAA14859; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:50:02 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma019808; Wed, 7 Apr 99 17:00:15 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9U003UC7Q31J@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:01:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525674C.00733708 ; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:58:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:52:42 -0400 Subject: RE: idiots on the commute To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525674C.00728A17.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL What about flipping your kill switch off and on again for a nice loud backfire? That ought to get an errant cager's attention, surely! Chris Weaver VTR1000 "or should I wave a flag when someone tries to merge into me?" [Carl sez] Well, according to Hanlon's razor* if it's ignorance not evilness, then a flag would "help" alert the BDC to the error of its way. A horn "helps" alert them, just don't depend on to save your butt. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 18:01:05 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA11851 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 18:00:08 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 18:00:00 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:04:27 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: ZX-10 woes -Forwarded Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_F1A7C070.E988E6FE" This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_F1A7C070.E988E6FE Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Friend of mine has this problem, and it beats the hell out of me. Anyone? --=_F1A7C070.E988E6FE Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.4]) by mail.martinagency.com (GroupWise SMTP/MIME daemon 4.1 v3) ; Wed, 7 Apr 99 17:25:42 EDT Received: from Gtknedrgr@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id hQBRa08743 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:15:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7ad8c568.243d24fe@aol.com> X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Reply-To: Gtknedrgr@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:15:42 -0400 From: To: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Subject: ZX-10 woes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Hello all- I have a 1990 kawasaki ninja zx-10 that I am having a problem with, and I hope someone out there may have an idea that may help me. Thanks for your time. This past December, once again, I put this thing up for the winter, as I have for the past 5 years. I filled the tank, added Stabil, ran it till it stopped, cut the gas off, drained the floats, and rolled it into my basement apartment to look at for the next 3 months. When the weather broke, I took it out, took the battery off the Battery Tender, and started it right up. However, I now have other problems that I cannot put my finger on. It idles fine on the center stand, put when I push it off to ride it, it almost cuts off. If I am lucky enough to resurrect it, when I put it into gear to ride away, it stumbles and cuts off. I can scarcely move it a bike length. All side stands are up and the switches check out OK. It just dies. It will start up again, but not without difficulty (you have to hold the starter switch in as it slowly catches) and not without pulling the choke out again, even if I run it till the fan comes on before getting on. I am completely baffled. I have done the following: -Taken airbox apart. Checks OK. -Pulled carbs off & cleaned them. Twice. Pulled out main jets & cleaned them. -Pulled out slides, float bowls, float needles, and used up 2 huge cans of carb cleaner. I swear I don't think it's a carb problem. It idles wierd also...the revs rise and fall with no input from me...as much as 2500 rpm. All slides work great and also butterfly valves. -Installed new plugs. Had coils checked out yesterday and both are fine. I was told that the igniter box either works or not, so I rule that out. -Plugs are getting fire, although it looks a bit weak. -Drained tank fully. Drained carbs and put fresh gas in w/ gas line cleaner. No rust. (Bike has always been garaged). Good flow out of tank to carbs also. -Battery is full of charge, and on the Tender when not riding. -Could it be a fuel pump problem?? I ask b/c I don't know what else...fuel filter is new also. -It will run all day long at idle. It will even take gas up to redline with no problem. You can grab a handfull and tach it out till the cows come home @12,000 rpms or better -With the bike on the centerstand, you can start it, drop it in gear, and it will take throttle just like normal with the rear wheel turning. It seems to only be when it is UNDER LOAD. OK. I am baffled. I have never had this problem before with this bike (50, 000 miles so far). If after reading all of this you have an idea, please drop me a line at: GTknedrgr@XXXXXX. I sincerely thank you for your help. -greg in VA --=_F1A7C070.E988E6FE-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 18:42:50 1999 Return-Path: rdrdr@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA12667 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:42:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (207-172-205-167.s40.as15.rkv.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.205.167]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA04562 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:42:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000f01be8160$d4a3ca20$a7cdaccf@default> From: "rdrdr" To: Subject: Brake Line Installation Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:40:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE8126.2506DE20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE8126.2506DE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have in hand a new set of steel braided brake lines for my 95' Suzuki = DR650. Since I have yet to do this kind of job, I hereby turn to the vast = expanse of experience resident in the minds, backyards, and depleted = bank accounts of my fellow riders, i.e. DC Cycles. I have the shop manual and it all seems straight forward (therefore = probably isn't). Any input would be appreciated. Thanks Niv DR650 DC ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE8126.2506DE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have in hand a new set of steel braided = brake lines=20 for my 95' Suzuki DR650.
 
Since I have yet to do this kind of job, I = hereby turn=20 to the vast expanse of experience resident in the minds, backyards, and = depleted=20 bank accounts of my fellow riders, i.e. DC Cycles.
 
I have the shop manual and it all seems straight forward (therefore = probably isn't).
Any input would be appreciated.
 
 
Thanks
 
Niv
DR650
DC
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE8126.2506DE20-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 19:50:29 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13827 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:50:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user27.anent.com [208.195.115.27]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA02942; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 19:43:19 -0400 Message-ID: <004701be8151$75c60b80$1b73c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "Todd Peer" , "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: Suzook Dealers Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:50:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Bought my first bike ('94 Suzuki RF600) from Jim at Valley Cycles in Winchester. No fuss, No muss. Gave me a price $400 less than anyone else without my even asking. They now have a brand new building on Rt 50 east of I-81. My .02 Bruce >Looking for good experiences from Suzi owners and the dealers (local, w/in >100 miles) they bought from. Got a friend at work interested in the new >SV650. > >Todd From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 20:03:19 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web508.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.75]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA13990 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:03:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990408000510.23965.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web508.yahoomail.com; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:05:10 PDT Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:05:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: for sale: CBR F3 manuals To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii For sale: official Honda shop manual for the 1995-6 CBR600 F3. Low miles, just a couple of greasy fingerprints. Bought it for about $60, steal it for $20. Price includes matching owner's manual. Please contact me off-list at redsullivan@XXXXXX. Thanks, Sean Sullivan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 20:11:31 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14083 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm01sm.pmm.cw.net (pm01sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.150]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA17486 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr7-dialup4.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.67.132]) by PM01SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35315) with SMTP id <0F9U0071PGGJVE@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:10:00 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:09:45 +0000 From: Jon Subject: Re: Country Roads MC Rally in WV To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <012401be8132$9a358820$84433ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >...1642 miles one-way. 1000+ to be covered >in 24 hours or less. Anybody else interested? >Todd You're freakin' nutz! Jon From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 20:12:34 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm05sm.pmm.cw.net (pm05sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.154]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14159 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr7-dialup4.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.67.132]) by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35323) with SMTP id <0F9U00O8JGJS63@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:11:57 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:11:47 +0000 From: Jon Subject: Re: 1999 R1 For Sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <013a01be8132$dfe928e0$84433ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Anyone interested in a 1999 Yamaha YZF 1000 R1??? >It's brand new. Has only 600 miles on it. It's adult >owned and has been broken in properly. Just had it >serviced for its first 500 mile tune up. It has a >Vance & Hines S4 Slip-on pipe. It's Red & White. >$13,500 OBO. Moving Soon. That's got to be a typo.......... Jon From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 20:17:52 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm02sm.pmm.cw.net (pm02sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.151]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14248 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:17:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr7-dialup4.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.67.132]) by PM02SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35316) with SMTP id <0F9U001MWGS1Q6@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:16:58 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 20:16:44 +0000 From: Jon Subject: Re: WERA Racing..Ride to Summit Point -Reply To: Boiade@XXXXXX, DC Cycles Message-id: <013d01be8133$92ebe180$84433ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Speaking of Summit Point, I would like to go Saturday afternoon (getting back >from out-of-town late morning) but I'll probably go Sunday AM on my bike. Is >anyone planning to go up either of those days/times from Maryland area. >Ciao, >Fred Freddie, I might be interested.......... I know some good roads between Ft. Meade and Fredneck. Give me a departure/meeting time, etc.... Jon From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 21:18:35 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA15378 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA18331 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA18979 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mo3980r1.ems.att.com ([135.38.12.14]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id VAA11956 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com by mo3980r1.ems.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/ATTEMS-1.4.1 sol2) id VAA13052; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE813C.285E6B90@XXXXXX>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:18:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Inspections Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:23:28 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Speaking/writing about inspections, does anyone know what the criteria is for putting a car on the dyno for inspection testing? I did it for my SO's 95 Del Sol, but even the attendant wasn't sure if it was required or not. To be honest, I'm not going to bother with my '83 Impala unless they TELL me I have too. It's pretty silly, (for me), to be inspected anyway. I say a waiver should be issued for any motor vehicle which passes inspection 7 consecutive years in a row. IOW, you KNOW I maintain my vehicle, now stop wasting my time, my gas, and my money to get an inspection. This, of course, would be in lieu of just doing away with the whole silly process to begin with. Uh, oh, flame bait . . . . MC content --> got new MEZ4's for the VFR 800. I can't wait to mount them. Later . . . John 98 VFR From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 21:27:18 1999 Return-Path: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (zbig@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA15524 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:27:12 -0400 (EDT) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id VAA08202; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:26:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904080126.VAA08202@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: report from down under To: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX (Jon) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <013a01be8132$dfe928e0$84433ea6@0302104396168270> from "Jon" at Apr 7, 99 08:11:47 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Well, it is hard to belive but true: they use bikes down under. After I walked into our office in Melbourne, I noticed 2 helmest sticking from the cubes. Looks like my kind of a place.. They have a cc restriction: for the first year, you canot ride anythign above 250 cc. Leon, watch your JD - it may be gone in no time. After first year, no more restrictions. Despite fact that Australian market is much smaller than US, the have wider selection. For example, Honda 900RR Fireblade in gorgeous metallic siver/black combination; Honda DP Transalp; Honda XX in silver graphite color. Plenty of 250-500 class bikes, DP and sporties. Quite a few Triumphs. Bikes are in good shape. Still, I cannot understand why they are driving on left side all the time... _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 21:38:47 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA15749 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mo3980r1.ems.att.com ([135.38.12.14]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id VAA14589 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com by mo3980r1.ems.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/ATTEMS-1.4.1 sol2) id VAA18263; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE813E.E39B16E0@XXXXXX>; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:37:51 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'BRIT-IRON-L@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: We have met the Enfield, and it is ours. Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:27:57 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I refer, of course, to my wife's new 350 Enfield Bullet. Its name is Ed. I get to ride it until the Triumph (a horse with no name) gets back together, or the wife completes the MSF course, whichever comes first. My friend Don said, "Yeah, you bought your wife a bike and she can't ride it yet! Nice try. I wish that kind of logic would work on my wife. I would buy her a nice Ducati!" We trucked it 60 miles to get it home, as per the advice of some smart people. "You don't want to run a brand new motor wide open for an hour on the highway!" they said. Hmmm... I guess you're right. I've never had a new bike before. It's kind of ironic that my (our) first new bike is a 40 year old design. When it was unloaded, I decided I should probably go get some petrol in it. After stalling it several times (note to self: when the choke lever is down, it is "On"), I made it the 3 miles to the petrol station. After much messing about, I found neutral, and looked up to see that I had an audience. A father and son wanted to know all about the little Enfield. That was pretty cool. I wonder if this happens *every* 3 miles. I'll have to get some brochures to hand out if it does. After I filled him up, I just had to take Ed for a little spin. It's the first time while riding a motorcycle that I've been passed by a delivery truck. Hey, I'm breakin' it in! ;) Just thought I would share that with y'all. Be aware; cagers are everywhere. Rich '78 Triumph Bonneville '99 Enfield Bullet Sterling, VA USA From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 21:45:43 1999 Return-Path: ehand@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA15929 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA29636 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:45:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vna-va14-56.ix.netcom.com(207.223.178.248) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma029609; Wed Apr 7 20:44:46 1999 Message-ID: <370C099B.879DF74@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 21:42:51 -0400 From: Ed Hand X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'dc'" Subject: FS: 85 Nighthawk S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Everyone, I have a 1985 Honda Nighthawk S, CB700SC for sale. The bike is in good condition, Blue/Black and has 15.8K miles. Asking $1500/obo. Ed Hand 703-922-6759 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 21:55:00 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from gecko.troutman.org (root@XXXXXX [209.122.196.203]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA16046 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:54:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA07510; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:54:53 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma007508; Wed, 7 Apr 99 21:54:29 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990407215343.00a1cc30@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 21:54:27 -0400 To: Mehran , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Re: 1999 R1 For Sale In-Reply-To: <19990407171014.9096.rocketmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Since no one else mentioned it - don't ever send attachments to a mail list. If we want to see it we will go to a website to look. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 7 23:31:03 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA17717 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:31:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id 2YHUa27158; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:29:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5a8fecd4.243d7c82@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:29:06 EDT Subject: In regards to April 30th gas-out. Patently Ridiculous. (Non-moto) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cbr@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_5a8fecd4.243d7c82_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Eternity23@XXXXXX --part1_5a8fecd4.243d7c82_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_5a8fecd4.243d7c82_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Eternity23@XXXXXX From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Full-name: Eternity23 Message-ID: <5a8fecd4.243d7c50@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:28:16 EDT Subject: Fw: This may be a good idea....OR NOT; ALTERNATE FORWARD To: sethisx@XXXXXX, bdeitch@XXXXXX, Eternity23@XXXXXX, leharlow@XXXXXX, meana@XXXXXX, nmk@XXXXXX, palmiglx@XXXXXX, slutbitch@XXXXXX, jla4a@XXXXXX, Benbean23@XXXXXX, Bilslatt@XXXXXX, JillEM79@XXXXXX, lomnessp@XXXXXX, Typsloe@XXXXXX, Sabotag579@XXXXXX, bobdaw@XXXXXX, WAVE320@XXXXXX, TaviSivaT@XXXXXX, joshua.spalding@XXXXXX, Joy1623@XXXXXX, seankenny@XXXXXX, Sadhishr@hotmail..com, Infinit161@XXXXXX, Vchic104@XXXXXX, Fr0ggyglr@XXXXXX, SexyRexy37@XXXXXX, BigE42@XXXXXX, Kristalino@XXXXXX, BverLuv@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_5a8fecd4.243d7c50_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Eternity23@XXXXXX --part2_5a8fecd4.243d7c50_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you compared Europe's prices for gas against ours lately? They pay upwards of $4.00 a gallon. Also, in Virginia, $.361 cents per gallon is tax! Milk costs more than four times as much!!! We should have a "milk-out"! Strong bones be damned! Poorly thought out knee-jerk reactions like this piss me off. Sorry if anyone thought this was a good idea, but it's not. The most you'll do is ruin the sales of some local buisness for one day. Good idea, huh? Also, consider the fact that prices most likely will not make a drastic drop. The amount of people who recieved the initial forwards may or may not take part in this ludicrous, foolhardy experiment. The anonymous originator of the forward doesn't even quote any kind of source for their information! THIS 'GAS-OUT' IS PATENTLY RIDICULOUS!!! Please pass this on. Let's all kill internet hoaxes together. -Sean Jordan --part2_5a8fecd4.243d7c50_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-ya02.mx.aol.com (rly-ya02.mail.aol.com [172.18.144.194]) by air-ya03.mx.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:15:57 -0400Received: from roc.jmu.edu (roc.jmu.edu [134.126.10.50]) by rly-ya02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id RAA25929 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:15:56 -0400 (EDT)Received: from [134.126.160.59] (ip160-59.lab.jmu.edu [134.126.160.59]) by roc.jmu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA27398; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:15:46 -0400 (EDT)From: "Sethi, Salonika X" Sender: sethisx@XXXXXXReply-To: sethisx@XXXXXXTo: bdeitch@XXXXXX, eternity23@XXXXXX, leharlow@XXXXXX, meana@XXXXXX, nmk@XXXXXX, palmiglx@XXXXXX, slutbitch@XXXXXXSubject: fwd: Fw: This may be a good ideaMessage-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 04:08:50 +0000Priority: NORMALX-Mailer: Simeon for Macintosh Version 4.1 Build (3)X-Authentication: IMSPMIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Reply-To: To: undisclosed-recipients:; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- Begin Forwarded Message --- Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 08:44:23 +0100 From: Joanne Pickett Subject: Fw: This may be a good idea Sender: picketje@XXXXXX To: Recipient List Hidden by JMU mail server Reply-To: Joanne Pickett Message-ID: --- Begin Forwarded Message --- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:18:45 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Cohen, Jennifer L" Subject: fwd: Fw: Fwd: Fw: This may be a good idea Sender: cohenjl@XXXXXX To: Recipient List Hidden by JMU mail server Reply-To: cohenjl@XXXXXX Message-ID: >> We pay through the nose for gas year round because >> "big oil" thinks we >> will suck it up. And you know what...? So far, >> they're right! We're >> getting screwed in a big, ugly way, folks! Let's >> at least make this one >> small attempt to let the oil companies know that >> they can't pick our >> pockets without consequences! >> >> Power to the people! >> >> >> ====================================================== >> >> THE GREAT "GAS OUT" >> >> It's time we did something about the price of >> gasoline in America! We >> are all sick and tired of high prices when there >> are literally millions >> of gallons in storage. >> >> Know what I found out? If there was just ONE day >> when no one >> purchased any gasoline, prices would drop >> drastically. The so-called oil >> cartel >> has decided to slow production by some 2 million >> barrels per day to drive >> up the price. >> I have decided to see how many Americans we can get >> to NOT BUY ANY >> GASOLINE on one particular day... >> >> Let's have a GAS OUT! Do not buy any gasoline on >> APRIL 30, 1999!!!!! >> >> Buy on the Thursday before, or the Saturday after. >> Again, do not buy >> any gasoline on FRIDAY, APRIL 30, 1999. Wanna help? >> Send this message to >> everyone you know. Ask them to do the same. All we >> need is a few million >> to participate in order to make a difference. >> >> >> >> >> > >> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 >> From: JillEM79@XXXXXX >> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:20:49 EDT >> Subject: Fwd: Fw: This may be a good idea >> To: lomnessp@XXXXXX, Typsloe@XXXXXX, >> Sabotag579@XXXXXX, >> bobdaw@XXXXXX, WAVE320@XXXXXX, >> TaviSivaT@XXXXXX, >> joshua.spalding@XXXXXX, Joy1623@XXXXXX, >> seankenny@XXXXXX, >> Sadhishr@hotmail..com, Infinit161@XXXXXX, >> Vchic104@XXXXXX, >> Fr0ggyglr@XXXXXX, SexyRexy37@XXXXXX, >> BigE42@XXXXXX, >> Kristalino@XXXXXX, BverLuv@XXXXXX >> Reply-To: JillEM79@XXXXXX >> >> >> > >> ATTACHMENT part 2.2 message/rfc822 >> Reply-To: >> To: undisclosed-recipients:; >> >> >> >> >> Subject: This may be a good idea >> Date: Saturday, April 03, 1999 12:02 PM >> >> >> Take a look, sounds good to me. >> >> >> Let's go for this! >> >> While this message is circling the entire USA, I >> think it is >> especially important for all Californians to >> consider participating in this >> "strike". >> >> We pay through the nose for gas year round because >> "big oil" thinks we >> will suck it up. And you know what...? So far, >> they're right! We're >> getting screwed in a big, ugly way, folks! Let's at >> least make this one >> small attempt to let the oil companies know that >> they can't pick our >> pockets without consequences! >> >> Power to the people! >> >> ====================================================== >> >> THE GREAT "GAS OUT" >> >> It's time we did something about the price of >> gasoline in America! We >> are all sick and tired of high prices when there are >> literally millions >> of gallons in storage. >> >> Know what I found out? If there was just ONE day >> when no one >> purchased any gasoline, prices would drop >> drastically. The so-called oil >> cartel >> has decided to slow production by some 2 million >> barrels per day to drive >> up the price. >> I have decided to see how many Americans we can get >> to NOT BUY ANY >> GASOLINE on one particular day... >> >> Let's have a GAS OUT! Do not buy any gasoline on >> APRIL 30, 1999!!!!! >> >> Buy on the Thursday before, or the Saturday after. >> Again, do not buy >> any gasoline on FRIDAY, APRIL 30, 1999. Wanna help? >> Send this message to >> everyone you know. Ask them to do the same. All we >> need is a few million >> to participate in order to make a difference. >> >> >> > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > --- End Forwarded Message --- -- Cohen, Jennifer L cohenjl@XXXXXX --- End Forwarded Message --- ************* The person who walks in someone else's steps, leaves no footprints. ************* Pickett, Joanne E picketje@XXXXXX 540-438-3539 --- End Forwarded Message --- -- Sethi, Salonika X sethisx@XXXXXX --part2_5a8fecd4.243d7c50_boundary-- --part1_5a8fecd4.243d7c82_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 02:30:02 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA21410 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:29:58 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV3NVAYF; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:29:47 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31K1RS; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:29:48 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 8525674D.002DBA30 ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:29:43 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525674D.001FE3C5.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:30:16 -0400 Subject: A Comment & My New Toy Yo Riders, I've been on a few mailing lists & having a table of contents at the beginning of the digest makes for convenient browsing. I wonder if dc-cycles will ever incorporate that functionality on this list? Now, I want to share my feelings on my latest impractical toy, the Mighty Yamaha YZF1000R. First, some history. I've been riding for (20) years on & off. I've owned (10) bikes including this one. I've owned a 81' ? Suzuki GS650E, 86' Honda VFR750F, 89' Suzuki GSX-R750, 90' Suzuki GSX-R750, 91' Honda VFR750F, 85' Kawa Ninja GPZ900, repurchased the 91' VFR750F, 91' Yam FZR1000, 93' Honda CBR1000 & now the awsome YZF1000F ThunderAce. Simply put, I've never felt anything like this before. I'm talking a chasis that feels like it was designed for the track, ultra stable & rock solid. This machine is not as hardcore as the R1, but it's designed for the street not the track. This motor is putting out a dynoed 135bhp at the rear wheel. My old FZR put out 138bhp but both machines go about the business of making speed differently. The TA starts down low & pulls like a tractor. Incredible! The brakes will stand me straight up on the front wheel if I wanted to. Funny how when you read evaluations in motorcycle magazines, you wonder how accurate their impressions really are. Everything that's been written about the TA is right on the money. Whats disturbing is that kids are buying these kind of machines. This bike like all bikes will kill you dead. The Ultra sport bikes will probably do it quicker that's all. My son (6) loves my bike & likes to ride. I want to start him young in the dirt because if not he'll want to ride when he's (16) & his instincts won't be nearly as sharp as they will be if he starts at (7). Well, that's all I'm going to say about that, oh one other thing, "loud pipes save lives". DJ 97' Yamaha YZF1000R aka "Faith" Bowie MD From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 06:46:40 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA26307 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:46:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id 7KIAa01383; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:45:50 EDT Subject: Re: A Comment & My New Toy To: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/8/99 2:40:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, djones@XXXXXX writes: << This motor is putting out a dynoed 135bhp at the rear wheel. My old FZR put out 138bhp but both machines go about the business of making speed differently. >> Unless the two bikes are heavily modified, I think it was an optimistic dyno. Those are more like R-1 real dyno numbers. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 06:49:28 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA26322 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990408105100.13399.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.111.139] by web301.yahoomail.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 03:51:00 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:51:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: A Comment & My New Toy To: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- djones@XXXXXX wrote: Simply put, I've never felt anything like this > before. > I'm talking a chasis that feels like it was designed for the track, > ultra > stable & rock solid. This machine is not as hardcore as the R1, but > it's > designed for the street not the track. Congrats on the new bike... I really like the looks of the Thunder Ace...too bad todays demographics forced Yamaha to drop it fo rthe R1. The TA is arguably a much better bike than the R1 for 95% of riders...(4 of the other % are racers, and theres always about 1 looney % that can really ride something like that and willing to do it on the street) > "loud pipes save lives". > Uh-oh.. here we go again. How do you propose that loud pipes save lives?? All I've ever seen them do is really piss off the people BEHIND you....and we all know, "things in the rear view mirror no longer matter!" :) Seriously though, loud doesn't do nything for you, and you can still get top performance out of a reasonably sounding aftermarket pipe...case in point, the GSXR 7/11 that put out 165 rear wheel hp at Fast Lane's hp shootout... it was one of the quietest bikes there! Collin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 07:38:44 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from ckgppxy1.proxy.att.com ([12.20.58.33]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27041 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gab200r1.ems.att.com ([135.37.94.32]) by ckgppxy1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id HAA05493 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com by gab200r1.ems.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/ATTEMS-1.4.1 sol2) id HAA18812; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE8192.B6FEC1F0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:37:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'mehran7@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: 1999 R1 For Sale (please no more images) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:37:49 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please, oh please let's not forget us digest folks! All we get is page after page of trash when someone attaches a picture. I feel sorry for the folks that have to dial up at 28.8 and wait to download that stuff. If you must share a picture with the list, you could post it to the dcc yahoo page, or, if you can't or don't want to do that, email it to me, and I will post it to the web for you. Then you can just send the URL to people. Thanks, Rich '78 Triumph Bonneville '99 Enfield Bullet Sterling From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 09:08:55 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay6.UU.NET (relay6.UU.NET [192.48.96.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA28357 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:08:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay6.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgkbc21046 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:07:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8525674D.0048A080 ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:13:16 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Message-ID: <8525674D.00489F37.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:01:28 -0400 Subject: It Worked Like a Charm... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for all the suggestions regarding the hideous green parking sticker GMU wants me to mount on my tank. I just taped it to a big refrigerator magnet and then put it on the tank. It sure saved the looks of my bike! - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 09:28:02 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA28662 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA19327 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:26:55 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990408132748.MEVA751@toddnt> for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:27:48 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: RE: Suzook Dealers Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:24:59 -0400 Message-ID: <001401be81c3$335d7040$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <002c01be8135$24aefc50$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Thanks everyone who replied. > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Peer [mailto:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 4:28 PM > To: DC-Cycles > Subject: Suzook Dealers > > > > Looking for good experiences from Suzi owners and the dealers (local, w/in > 100 miles) they bought from. Got a friend at work interested in the new > SV650. > > Todd > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 09:53:57 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29091 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:53:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id 2UZZa03142 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:49:03 EDT Subject: Re: A Comment & My New Toy - HP readings To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Eternity23@XXXXXX I'm not sure how much more highly tuned the YZF1000 is than my CBR1000F, but my CBR was dynoed a week or so ago at 111.1 corrected hp. 135 hp might happen..... -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 10:19:12 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA29515 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00615 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA29890 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA26936; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:18:12 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990408141816.MMKN751@toddnt>; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:18:16 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Carver, John" , Subject: RE: Inspections Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:15:26 -0400 Message-ID: <001601be81ca$3fcd5230$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > I say a waiver should be issued for any motor > vehicle which passes inspection 7 consecutive years in a row. IOW, you > KNOW I maintain my vehicle, now stop wasting my time, my gas, and my > money to get an inspection. This, of course, would be in lieu of just > doing away with the whole silly process to begin with. Uh, oh, flame > bait . . . . > John > 98 VFR I think your on to something here John. Except for the part about the money, VA might go for it ;-) Todd From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 10:26:46 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA29923 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:26:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990408143347.7234.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web303.yahoomail.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 07:33:47 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:33:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: A Comment & My New Toy To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Actually, not really Fred... The FZR might have had some moderate moding, but 135 out of a Thunderace is pretty common... After all it is the older brother of the R1.... the big difference is that the TA is slightly more touring oriented and a lot heavier than the R1. However, IMHO it is a much nicer looking bike than the R1. --- Boiade@XXXXXX wrote: he business of making speed differently. >> > > Unless the two bikes are heavily modified, I think it was an > optimistic dyno. > Those are more like R-1 real dyno numbers. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 10:29:31 1999 Return-Path: riders@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00100 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (209-122-196-77.s77.tnt5.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.196.77]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA22880; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36F25D43.7208@erols.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:20:51 -0500 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Custer, Carl" CC: "'DCCy'" , "'Hugh A. Caldwell'" Subject: Re: idiots on the commute References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RE Paintball guns vs. idiot commuters. You're right, it is a felony to cause a projectile to strike a motor vehicle. Soooo, maybe you just get ahead of the idiot and "unclog the nozzle on your can of chain lube" works like a charm especially if said chain lube contains moly. Custer, Carl wrote: > > > >2) Resolve NOT to rely on the new loud horns alone. Humans, even BDC's, > > >react faster to visual input than audio. Remember (& practice) the stuff > > >about lane placement, being conspicuous, Yadda . . . > > > > " Uhh, so should I carry a paint ball gun or with me" > [Carl sez] I've been thinking so-oo hard about a paint ball gun. > Probably against the law since it "discharges a projectile". Might > as well have a panzerfaust. > Eggs? Hmmm, did you ever read any of Robert Axelrod's stuff? > > "or should I wave a flag when someone tries to merge into me?" > [Carl sez] Well, according to Hanlon's razor* if it's ignorance not > evilness, then a flag would "help" alert the BDC to the error of its way. > A horn "helps" alert them, just don't depend on to save your butt. > > Carl in Bethesda (Panzerfaust, hmmm, what's Ranger's phone number? =:^O ) > *Hanlon's Razor "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately > explained by stupidity." -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 10:42:35 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00435 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2PXHWX49>; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:42:23 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: idiots on the commute Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:42:21 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > -----Original Message----- > From: Art Crow [mailto:riders@XXXXXX] > Soooo, maybe > you just get > ahead of the idiot and "unclog the nozzle on your can of chain lube" > works like a charm especially if said chain lube contains moly. Great idea.. I heard (cough, cough.. 5th amendment here) that you can carry a tube of BBs.. umm, use a magnet stuck to your tank, and the tube stuck to that.. then just get infront of said moron.. and loose the little metal balls. I understand they wreak havoc on paint and windows.. (poor.. poor 911.. shouldn't have been such an ass.. er, opps.. 5th amendment, I swear!) Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 11:28:27 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01349 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02990 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:28:21 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA01910 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id vCNHa19161 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:28:04 EDT Subject: Saturday rides? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: NJitzul@XXXXXX Just wondering if there are any rides planned for this weekend that I can tag along on? That is, if ya don't mind one of the non-sport bike, slow cruiser, scenic pace types following far behind. ;) Robert "da caboose" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 11:59:51 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01950 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:59:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.7) id rHZIa29765; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <692b8785.243e2a5c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:50:52 EDT Subject: Re: A Comment & My New Toy To: gixer_racer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/8/99 10:34:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gixer_racer@XXXXXX writes: << The FZR might have had some moderate moding, but 135 out of a Thunderace is pretty common.. >> Ok, I am impressed. My 98-ZX-9R puts out 133 of the 140 claimed at the crankshaft although I have seen others that have gotten between 129-136 stock. The R-1 charts I have seen have had between 135 and 142. Could be a difference in SAE and Brit HP who knows. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 12:15:12 1999 Return-Path: riders@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02248 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (209-122-238-233.s233.tnt2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.238.233]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id MAA05942; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:15:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36F2761A.2C5D@erols.com> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:06:50 -0500 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" CC: "'dc'" Subject: Re: idiots on the commute References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit and I heard that "a friend of mine" spilled a bag of used sparkplugs from his coat pocket. Damned untidy, I'd say. McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Art Crow [mailto:riders@XXXXXX] > > Soooo, maybe > > you just get > > ahead of the idiot and "unclog the nozzle on your can of chain lube" > > works like a charm especially if said chain lube contains moly. > > Great idea.. I heard (cough, cough.. 5th amendment here) that you can carry > a tube of BBs.. umm, use a magnet stuck to your tank, and the tube stuck to > that.. then just get infront of said moron.. and loose the little metal > balls. I understand they wreak havoc on paint and windows.. (poor.. poor > 911.. shouldn't have been such an ass.. er, opps.. 5th amendment, I swear!) > > Brian -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 12:15:28 1999 Return-Path: tansey@XXXXXX Received: from links.magenta.com (tansey@XXXXXX [151.199.66.150]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02258 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:15:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by links.magenta.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA10670; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:12:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:12:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Tansey To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" cc: "'dc'" Subject: RE: idiots on the commute In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > Great idea.. I heard (cough, cough.. 5th amendment here) that you can carry > a tube of BBs.. umm, use a magnet stuck to your tank, and the tube stuck to > that.. then just get infront of said moron.. and loose the little metal > balls. I understand they wreak havoc on paint and windows.. (poor.. poor > 911.. shouldn't have been such an ass.. er, opps.. 5th amendment, I swear!) My little sister has been a rider for a few years and she learned that an old spark plug works wonders... Rather, the porcelain from the plug. Apparently it makes wonderful chips and cracks in windshields and expensive paint jobs. Other, somewhat more nefarious suggestions were: Pinballs Test tubes filled with anti-freeze or motor oil Ball bearings Chunks of epoxy (hit windshield, wipers turned on, epoxy smears BADLY) The bonus of the spark plug is that if you're not seen actively throwing it at the car, it's harder to pin on you. Road debris is common, but a test tube of anti-freeze implies premeditation. Of course, keep in mind, with road rage the way it is here, any of the above is likely to evoke some unwanted responses from the driver of said car. Shannon -pining for a bike VERY badly today From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 12:26:36 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02446 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2NLKTTDA>; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:25:58 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'HolmesM@XXXXXX'" , "'DCCy'" Subject: Tires Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:25:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Mitch Holmes slyly starts a tire thread with: "Ok, boys and girls, I need some good advice on tires. . . My bike is my car. I ride it everywhere . . . Weather is not a factor . . . I'm not a rider who pushes the limits . . .I would place myself in the medium-to-slow group. FWIW: I've been using Metzlers on my 85 VF700S ME 33 front, ME 88 rear. Similar riding: Lots of commuting rain or shine, a few weekend rides, a couple of longer distance rides (Vt, Tenn). I've been getting about 15K out of them. Both wear out about the same time. I'm going to try the Dunlop 205 next week for the SME 3.9 in Marietta Carl The "Choir Boy" in Bethesda From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 13:16:41 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03510 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:16:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02111 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:16:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f33.hotmail.com [209.185.131.96]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA06511 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 56215 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 17:16:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408171619.56214.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:16:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.22] From: "Leon Begeman" To: HolmesM@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Tires Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:16:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain I recommend Metzeler Marathons for that kind of use. On my Honda SilverWing I got about 15-20K from the rear tire and 35-45K on the front. On the Ninja 250, the front tire lasts forever and the rear about 30K. Now what can I put on my ZX6 (60 series radials) that will last as long as the Marathons do on my other bikes. Leon. >From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" >To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" >Subject: Tires >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:16:42 -0400 > >Ok, boys and girls, I need some good advice on tires. I don't want to start >any flame wars, but my baby needs new rubber and I'd like some guidance. I >can't find any tire comparisons from my old Cycle World magazines. > >My bike is my car. I ride it everywhere -- work, church, errands, softball >practice, etc. -- and do about three trips a year to Atlanta and Norfolk; >there may be a trip to Oklahoma in about three months. Weather is not a >factor, except for maybe hurricanes. Being the father of a supercharged >family, our weekends are usually tied up, so I haven't been able to >participate in group rides; I hope I can before the Navy transfers me away >from here. > >I'm not a rider who pushes the limits, but I do look for the roads less >traveled when I ride. If I were to participate in a DC Cycle group ride, I >would place myself in the medium-to-slow group. > >I currently have Bridgestone S11s, which I've been happy with (about 9k >miles). I bought them for name recognition more than anything else (I like >their automobile tires pretty well, but I'm not adamant about them). > >Before I invest my hard-earned cash, I thought you all could steer me in the >right directions. I guess I'm looking for a tire with good (but not >necessarily great) handling characteristics and great mileage. What are your >recommendations? Radials vs. bias? Is there a tire I should absolutely >stay away from? > >Mitch Holmes >1986 Honda Magna > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 13:30:00 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from web510.yahoomail.com (web510.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.80]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03732 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:29:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990408172918.21557.rocketmail@web510.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web510.yahoomail.com; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:29:18 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:29:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: RE: idiots on the commute To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii RE: BB and spark plug strikes It's easy for conflict to escalate. Despite the short-term satisfaction of striking back at a car driver that deliberately puts a rider at risk, I try to remind myself the best thing to do is to use the bike's maneuverability and get out of there, or count to ten if the car is gone. It's tough to come down from the rush of anger and adrenalin -- I want revenge every time. But avoidance keeps you safe, keeps you out of legal trouble, and keeps your bike from sustaining expensive damage that could result from a chase or a fight. Plus, (and I know a certain Libertarian disagrees with this philosophy :) it's better for our image as riders. Don't let the bastards affect your ride. Sean Sullivan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 13:38:20 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03968 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:38:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02460 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:38:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (law-f219.hotmail.com [209.185.130.157]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA07227 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33905 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 17:38:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408173801.33904.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:38:01 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.22] From: "Leon Begeman" To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX, ddiefend@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: bike to bike communicators Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:38:01 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain I agree with Chris, I've had several cheap intercom systems on bikes, they don't work. I suspect some of the expensive systems don't work either. Even the J&M cord needs to be replaced every year ($30 each) but that's better than replacing a cheap system twice a year. Leon. >From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX >To: ddiefend@XXXXXX >CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: bike to bike communicators >Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:44:04 -0400 > >Unfortunately, I have found that these two goals (quality communicators and >low cost) are mutually exclusive. I tried several systems and finally >ended up throwing in the towel and shelling out the $$$ for J&M. > >The J&M system works very well, and I recommend you go straight for it and >not waste $$ on trying other systems in the hopes they will work (like I >did). > >--chris > >From: ddiefend@XXXXXX >Date: 04/07/99 07:22:01 PM GMT >Subject: bike to bike communicators > > > > >I know this has been discussed some before.... I want to be able to >communicate >with an other bike, and also have intercom communications with a passenger. >I >want to stay cheap, as the budget dictates........ > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 13:56:23 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f29.hotmail.com [209.185.131.92]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04294 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 66595 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 17:55:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408175549.66594.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:55:49 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.22] From: "Leon Begeman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: report from down under Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:55:49 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Several of the contributor on the Ninja 250 discussion list are from down under. The only advantage I can see to cc restrictions for new riders is that it would make used little bikes cheaper and more plentiful. Leon. >From: zbig@XXXXXX >Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) >To: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX (Jon) >CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: report from down under >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:26:57 -0400 (EDT) > >Well, it is hard to belive but true: they use bikes down under. > >After I walked into our office in Melbourne, I noticed 2 helmest >sticking from the cubes. Looks like my kind of a place.. > >They have a cc restriction: for the first year, you canot ride >anythign above 250 cc. Leon, watch your JD - it may be gone in no >time. After first year, no more restrictions. > >Despite fact that Australian market is much smaller than US, the have >wider selection. For example, Honda 900RR Fireblade in gorgeous >metallic siver/black combination; Honda DP Transalp; Honda XX in >silver graphite color. Plenty of 250-500 class bikes, DP and sporties. >Quite a few Triumphs. Bikes are in good shape. > >Still, I cannot understand why they are driving on left side all the >time... > > > >_zjt >-- >******************************************************************** >Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX >Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 14:10:35 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mail.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04600 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:00:52 EST Message-Id: <199904081400.AA7995676@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: mriderleon@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: report from down under X-Mailer: Is that the ONLY advantage you see? If so, then why doesn't the MSF course use Vmaxes and R1's instead of 250 nighthawks and Rebels? If you survive the class, you can get your motorcycle license... Hork, stirring the pot ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Leon Begeman" Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:55:49 PDT >Several of the contributor on the Ninja 250 discussion list are from down under. The only advantage I can see to cc restrictions for new riders is that it would make used little bikes cheaper and more plentiful. Leon. -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - Her's. Mine. Ours. :) 1987 Suzuki Savage - Unretired. 1998 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer - RIP :( -- From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 14:17:10 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04795 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A29F19E00DE; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:17:06 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990408141002.012c0de0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:15:24 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: idiots on the commute In-Reply-To: <19990408172918.21557.rocketmail@web510.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:29 PM 4/8/99 , Sean Sullivan wrote: >RE: BB and spark plug strikes > > It's easy for conflict to escalate. Despite the >short-term satisfaction of striking back at a car >driver that deliberately puts a rider at risk, I try >to remind myself the best thing to do is to use the >bike's maneuverability and get out of there, or count >to ten if the car is gone. 'tis true. You don't have to read the paper or listen to the news much to know that there are crazy bastards on the road who will shoot into other cars, get out and pick fights, swing crowbars at cars, or deliberately run you off the road. I've never understood people deliverately picking a fight, but they're out there. For me, I find that squirting ahead in traffic (typically splitting lanes) and putting a car or two between me and the Idiot does wonders for my safety and my peace of mind. I try to never make eye contact, and just use the bike's advantages to my advantage. For example - two lanes merging into one, and the guy beside me doesn't want me to merge. I accelerate ahead by one car, and merge in front of that car. I find out-of-staters to be particularly susceptible to an assertive bike placement and give room. :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 14:48:02 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA05487 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:48:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7PZSN67; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:43:10 EDT To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Suzook Dealers Message-ID: <19990407.182244.8079.2.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <002c01be8135$24aefc50$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-5,7-16 From: Bikes R Us Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:43:10 EDT There's a dealership in Herndon that I can heartily recommend...I hear the finance guy (who, coincidentally, also doubles as a salesman sometimes) is particularly great to work with! ;) JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:28:06 -0400 "Todd Peer" writes: > >Looking for good experiences from Suzi owners and the dealers (local, >w/in >100 miles) they bought from. Got a friend at work interested in the >new >SV650. > >Todd > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 15:02:22 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05800 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA09887 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:02:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: report from down under In-Reply-To: <199904081400.AA7995676@tidalwave.net> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Horkster wrote: > Is that the ONLY advantage you see? If so, then why doesn't > the MSF course use Vmaxes and R1's instead of 250 nighthawks > and Rebels? If you survive the class, you can get your > motorcycle license... That's pretty obvious, the 250 is 20% of the cost of the others... When I took the class one of the instructors fell off the truck with one of the 250s. You should've seen the look on the face of the other instructor - it said something like, "!@#$, we're not here to give stupid unloading demos...". This other instructor did some of the most amazing stunts I've seen in person while on one of the little nighthawks... Rather than looking for snacks or resting during breaks I just watched him zipping around the lot. > >Several of the contributor on the Ninja 250 discussion list are from > down under. The only advantage I can see to cc restrictions for new > riders is that it would make used little bikes cheaper and more > plentiful. That sounds good to me... Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 15:23:26 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f66.hotmail.com [209.185.131.129]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06331 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 81345 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 1999 19:22:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990408192251.81344.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.23 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 12:22:51 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.23] From: "Leon Begeman" To: horkster@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: report from down under Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 12:22:51 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain I guess I don't understand the question. . . If the dealers gave them away, would the MSF course put a few V-Maxes and R1's into the mix? I don't know, but I suspect the two most important reasons for the Nighthawk 250 being in the course is Honda's support of the program and the low cost of the Nighthawk in the first place. Leon. >From: "Horkster" >Reply-To: >To: mriderleon@XXXXXX,dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: report from down under >Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:00:52 EST > >Is that the ONLY advantage you see? If so, then why doesn't >the MSF course use Vmaxes and R1's instead of 250 nighthawks >and Rebels? If you survive the class, you can get your >motorcycle license... > >Hork, stirring the pot > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: "Leon Begeman" >Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:55:49 PDT > >>Several of the contributor on the Ninja 250 discussion list are from >down under. The only advantage I can see to cc restrictions for new >riders is that it would make used little bikes cheaper and more >plentiful. > >Leon. > > >-- >Dale Horstman (the Horkster) >horkster@XXXXXX >Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > >1998 Kawasaki Concours - Her's. Mine. Ours. :) >1987 Suzuki Savage - Unretired. >1998 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer - RIP :( >-- > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 15:28:24 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06442 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:28:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id PAA05359; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:28:21 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from viking.concentric.net (viking [206.173.119.81]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id PAA16058; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:28:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:28:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Cheap bikes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Apparently this site sell damaged vehichles and includes pictures. Most of the pictures of the bikes I looked at didn't show much damage. http://www.ecocar.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 16:45:44 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08025 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id UAA14227; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:45:29 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990408204532.OROU751@toddnt>; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:45:32 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "JOE NAGY" , Subject: RE: ZX-10 woes -Forwarded Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:42:40 -0400 Message-ID: <002f01be8200$584d62b0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Beats the hell out of me too. At first I thought clogged jet(s) or sticking float(s). Then he said he cleaned everything up, twice. Indications are sputtering to dead after rolling, not just dying, but sputtering (non-electric). Also, sounds like he can red-line with quick blips while in vertical position (true?). Somehow it sounds like carbs, but sheeeiit! I don't know! This is a toughy! Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: JOE NAGY [mailto:NAGYJ@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 5:04 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: ZX-10 woes -Forwarded > > > Friend of mine has this problem, and it beats the hell out of me. > Anyone? From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 17:04:49 1999 Return-Path: ph@XXXXXX Received: from pine.eainet.com (root@XXXXXX [206.136.246.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08390 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oak (ph@XXXXXX [206.136.246.2]) by pine.eainet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA26572; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:05:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:04:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Hartzler To: Todd Peer cc: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: ZX-10 woes -Forwarded In-Reply-To: <002f01be8200$584d62b0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hmmm... Don't be too sure about non electric. I've seen electrical failures that only manifested themselves under very specific conditions -- i.e. a marginal connection that only changes with certain types of vibrations. -ph On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Todd Peer wrote: > Beats the hell out of me too. At first I thought clogged jet(s) or sticking > float(s). Then he said he cleaned everything up, twice. > > Indications are sputtering to dead after rolling, not just dying, but > sputtering (non-electric). Also, sounds like he can red-line with quick > blips while in vertical position (true?). > > Somehow it sounds like carbs, but sheeeiit! I don't know! This is a > toughy! > > Todd > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: JOE NAGY [mailto:NAGYJ@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 5:04 PM > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: ZX-10 woes -Forwarded > > > > > > Friend of mine has this problem, and it beats the hell out of me. > > Anyone? > --- Peter Hartzler Systems Analysis Ellsworth Associates, Inc. ph@XXXXXX (703) 821-3090 x 252 From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 17:20:03 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08746 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr50-dialup115.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.196.117]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35317) with SMTP id <0F9W00MCC389WF@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:19:29 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:19:16 +0000 From: Jon Subject: Re: Sun. ride to Summitt Point To: Boiade@XXXXXX, DC Cycles Message-id: <010d01be81e3$f2971720$75c43ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal For Sunday: How about meeting at the Hess gas station(green/white) on Rt.175 just north of Rt.32 across from Ft. Meade. Take Rt.32 to Rt.175 north and the Hess is 1/4 mile on the right. Meeting time: 8:30am Departure: 9:00am We should arrive at Summitt before 12 noon. We can crash DC Cycles Racing pit. I'll work on a route tonight. If anyone needs directions, let me know.... Jon >In a message dated 4/7/99 8:16:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >fzr_mofo@XXXXXX writes: > ><< Freddie, > I might be interested.......... I know some good roads between Ft. > Meade and Fredneck. Give me a departure/meeting time, etc.... > >> >If Sunday I would like to leave by 9. Think of a location near Ft. Meade to >meet. > >Ciao, > >Fred From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 17:20:37 1999 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08774 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:20:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl54.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.196]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 4022300 ; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:18:48 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:25:33 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199904080126.VAA08202@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: report from down under Message-Id: <199904082118.4022300@zzapp.org> On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:26:57 -0400 (EDT), zbig@XXXXXX wrote: >They have a cc restriction: for the first year, you canot ride >anythign above 250 cc. Leon, watch your JD - it may be gone in no >time. After first year, no more restrictions. I find it hard to believe that my old GS400 (a perfect starter bike) would be considered big, and too big to start out on. With 6 speeds, I shift into 6th at 35 mph. Not much top end performance..... >Still, I cannot understand why they are driving on left side all the >time... My baby brother went down there for the World Scouting Jamboree quite a number of years ago (my baby bro is now 30). What he found amazing was that he had an 80' Ford Bronco to drive around while he was "down Under". At that time he owned the same vehicle here. He was amazed that they put the steering wheel on the wrong side in front of the passenger's seat..... BTW, I now have a new email address. I can now be reached at snake69@XXXXXX. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 17:36:52 1999 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA09073 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:36:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl54.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.196]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 4028100 ; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:35:29 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:41:48 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <8525674D.001FE3C5.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: A Comment & My New Toy Message-Id: <199904082135.4028100@zzapp.org> On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:30:16 -0400, djones@XXXXXX wrote: >Whats disturbing is that kids are buying these kind of machines. This bike >like all bikes will kill you dead. The Ultra sport bikes will probably do >it quicker that's all. My son (6) loves my bike & likes to ride. I want >to start him young in the dirt because if not he'll want to ride when he's >(16) & his instincts won't be nearly as sharp as they will be if he starts >at (7). Well, at 36 I am still a kid, and sure that if I got one of these powerful sport bikes, I would be dead now, too. >Well, that's all I'm going to say about that, oh one other thing, >"loud pipes save lives". Before too many flames start, I better throw my hat into this ring too, so we get flamed together..... :) So far I am running the stock pipes on my little cruiser, but I can feel the need for new pipes. I have picked out the Vance & Hines Straightshots exhaust. The removable baffles allow me to be a nice, polite citizen 99% of the time, but allows me to be the social degenerate I have always really been that leftover 1%. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 17:43:20 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA09152 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:43:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA06075 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA16203 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:42:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl54.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.196]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 4029600 ; Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:41:09 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "NJitzul@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Saturday rides? Message-Id: <199904082141.4029600@zzapp.org> On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:28:04 EDT, NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: >Just wondering if there are any rides planned for this weekend that I can tag >along on? That is, if ya don't mind one of the non-sport bike, slow cruiser, >scenic pace types following far behind. ;) Rob, you and I can run drag. Kay quit her job so she is riding along with me a lot more frequently. You have seen me ride solo as well as two-up. You know that I could even pass for sane with my wife on the back. I know of a few that are traveling down to Richmond for a poker run this Sunday. I cannot convince my wife of the need to ride 130 miles one way to do a poker run. She had the highest hand in the JK Memorial 100 poker run sponsor by Heyser Cycle in Laural, and took 4th place at the Anne Arundal County ABATE poker run this last weekend. With her luck, I definately need to take her along..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 19:20:31 1999 Return-Path: F4Rider@XXXXXX Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (viper.bcbsblue.com [208.146.143.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA10769 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (root@localhost) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id TAA19428 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com ([199.97.109.162]) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id TAA19422 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com (root@localhost) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with ESMTP id TAA18032 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:24:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brad-s-pc ([192.168.90.14]) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with SMTP id TAA18028 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990408191837.007b1900@ns2.pgcc.net> X-Sender: brad@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:18:37 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Brad Subject: Off to Summit this weekend... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm leaving for Summit Point early (7-ish) Saturday morning. Anybody from MD wanna hook up for an early ride? I live along Rt 301, near Rt 4. If you want to meet up, email me... Brad CBR600F4 From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 21:01:59 1999 Return-Path: fwegerich@XXXXXX Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12521 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:01:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust178.tnt3.tco2.da.uu.net [153.34.247.178]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22880 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <370D51D9.3ADD96AA@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:03:21 -0400 From: Frank Wegerich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Rain gear - recommendations? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Got really wet last weekend and learned my lesson ====> I am looking for some good rain gear (pants + jacket preferred). Does anyone have recommendations? Thank you Frank - BMW R1100RT From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 21:05:27 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12613 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:05:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id zMSSa15514; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:50:09 EDT Subject: Re: A Comment & My New Toy To: snake69@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/8/99 5:45:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, snake69@XXXXXX writes: << Well, at 36 I am still a kid, and sure that if I got one of these powerful sport bikes, I would be dead now, too. >> I owned a GSXR-750 and a VFR-750 at your age 11 years ago. I still own one of those two bikes and now a more radical bike and I am not dead yet. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 21:10:17 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12660 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:10:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA07395 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:10:13 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA19835 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id zSTEa07519; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:07:08 EDT Subject: Re: Saturday rides? To: snake69@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: NJitzul@XXXXXX Snake, With that much luck, you should take Kay to Vegas! My luck with poker runs is this: 4 people in the category, 3 prizes.... I lost. Then again, it depends on what's being bet in the poker game! ;) Anyways, so far I've drawn a blank for riding on Saturday. Sunday is out of the question because I'll be caging it to my folks place for my mom's birthday (no saddlebags, so I can't carry her gift). Repeat of the Arch Run? Should I search for any other rides I might have? Or should I be totally impromptu and sally forth unguided? I was actually looking to follow, but I don't mind leading. Better than riding alone! Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 22:09:22 1999 Return-Path: Lodicojoe@XXXXXX Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13810 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:09:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Lodicojoe@XXXXXX Received: from Lodicojoe@XXXXXX by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id kONTa07519; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:53:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:53:01 EDT Subject: Re: inspection shops To: Kirk@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Lodicojoe@XXXXXX Kirk, last year at this time I had a bike inspected at Beltway Plaza Shell on Green belt Road in Greenbelt. The mechanic who looked at it gave it a pretty good once over, even road it around the block, checked the tire tread with a tire gauge and even used a micrometer on the front disk. It took about an hour but I waited a lot. He owns a Harley as does one of the other mechanics there. They were recommended by the Dirt Shop in College park who helped me rebuild the front brake caliper. The cost was $36 and he did not charge me for the re-inspection. Give them a call at 301-474-3443. It seems that the general idea is to take the bike to someone who knows what to check but has no interest in selling you anything. Good luck, Joe. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 22:12:25 1999 Return-Path: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13889 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:12:24 -0400 (EDT) From: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from STARAI@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id oCNMa12393; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <692d7896.243eb58e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:44:46 EDT Subject: Re: Suzook Dealers To: bike.dealer@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Reply-To: STARAI@XXXXXX In a message dated 99-04-08 14:54:46 EDT, bike.dealer@XXXXXX writes: << There's a dealership in Herndon that I can heartily recommend...I hear the finance guy (who, coincidentally, also doubles as a salesman sometimes) is particularly great to work with! ;) >> Who is he? LOL From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 22:35:42 1999 Return-Path: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA14308 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:35:41 -0400 (EDT) From: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from TZimm2450@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id iKJVa16615; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <86ba51c5.243ebe7f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:22:55 EDT Subject: Re: report from down under To: mriderleon@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TZimm2450@XXXXXX The CC restriction is a good idea for people who don't have the intelligence to take it easy till they learn how to ride. Example: Guy goes and takes the MSF course and feels he knows how to ride. He goes to Coleman and buys a 1998 Ninja Zx9R screamming bike. goes out to the street and locks up the front and burns the back. Guess what happens when the back caught. It shot straight out from under him and totaled the bike in about twenty seconds. Florida has a law under 16 under 450cc I started out on a Kaw 440LTD and damn near killed myself just on that. Z-mann From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 8 22:42:43 1999 Return-Path: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA14415 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:42:42 -0400 (EDT) From: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from TZimm2450@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rVRFa19256; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:22:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7137f756.243ebe80@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:22:56 EDT Subject: Re: A Comment & My New Toy To: gixer_racer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Set up a R1 with Hindle exhaust and Dynoed in at 143. going to set it up with the M4 next and see what we get. Z-mann From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 01:58:47 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA17582 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:58:47 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV3NVFDA; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:58:44 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31KPPA; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:58:45 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 8525674E.002DCE71 ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:58:40 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525674E.002059FE.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 01:59:13 -0400 Subject: Throttlemeister Ordered a throttlemeister today for my YZF1K. I'm hoping that by engaging the cruise control when necessary, I can give my throttle hand a break on long rides. Any sport bike pilots out there use this product? Comments? DJ From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 07:34:27 1999 Return-Path: rosenc@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA23481 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:34:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [207.172.96.81] (207-172-96-81.s272.tnt4.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.96.81]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with ESMTP id HAA16478 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904091134.HAA16478@smtp4.erols.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 07:33:49 -0400 Subject: Re: A Comment & My New Toy From: "Charles L. Rosen" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >I owned a GSXR-750 and a VFR-750 at your age 11 years ago. I still own one >of those two bikes and now a more radical bike and I am not dead yet. > What are you crazy?? Never tempt fate with a statement like that. I strongly urge everybody to stay clear of fred for at least a week. Maybe then the bad Karma will wear off -Charles (all too familiar with there is more evil than good at work in this universe) From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 07:38:07 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA23560 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2NLMP9KF>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:35:18 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F538519@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Classic Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:35:29 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Hey guys, I saw something classic yesterday. A guy on a newer model GSXR-750 wearing one of the those skull caps. The best part of it all was that he had a full face helmet strapped to the passenger seat. Can you say squid boy? Glenn From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 07:45:02 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA23690 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:45:01 -0400 (EDT) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id fJYBa20575; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <414325bf.243f41f8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:43:52 EDT Subject: Re: Rain gear - recommendations? To: fwegerich@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: McKeithen@XXXXXX It May not be expensive enough for you BMW folks, but I a $40 set from LL Bean. Folds up small enough to keep in the tank bag so its always with me and I never get caught out. Bob From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 07:58:33 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA23862 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:58:32 -0400 (EDT) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 2HXTa27564 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6c531c1.243f4549@aol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:58:01 EDT Subject: Knox Armour To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: McKeithen@XXXXXX Anybody on the list tried Knox Body Armour? Looks like it might be good idea for summer. Pros/Cons? Bob From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 08:07:27 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA23988 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2RKADW52>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:07:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Knox Armour Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:07:03 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > Anybody on the list tried Knox Body Armour? Looks like it > might be good idea > for summer. Pros/Cons? I hear it's good stuff (fram racers). Basically the same as the Dianiese (sp) bodyarmour. Why the comment about 'good for summer'? You don't want to wear it alone.. there's absolutly no abrasion protection.. it's all impact only and would shred about as fast as a rip-stop jogging suit. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 08:14:53 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA24107 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA10519 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:14:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA28202 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:14:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 8525674E.004334F4 ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:14:04 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: NAGYJ@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525674E.0042B92C.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:14:02 -0400 Subject: RE: ZX-10 woes -Forwarded Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I would check the cutout switch on the kick stand and I think there is another associated with the clutch. Even though the symptom doesen't point to these, I've seen them cause some strange problems. Worth a check. Steve Beck >>Beats the hell out of me too. At first I thought clogged jet(s) or sticking float(s). Then he said he cleaned everything up, twice. Indications are sputtering to dead after rolling, not just dying, but sputtering (non-electric). Also, sounds like he can red-line with quick blips while in vertical position (true?). Somehow it sounds like carbs, but sheeeiit! I don't know! This is a toughy!<< From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 08:43:41 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA24496 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990409124517.732.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web301.yahoomail.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 05:45:17 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:45:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: RE: Knox Armour To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Robert Lee bought the top of the line model at the NYC bike show. I tried one on and it looked and felt nice.... I don't think Robert is on list and I don't have his email, but I'm sure several others do and could send it direct to you or copy him. Collin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 08:48:59 1999 Return-Path: schelzig@XXXXXX Received: from research.circ.gwu.edu (research.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.250]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA24537 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:48:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by research.circ.gwu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA09593; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:49:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:48:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Erik Schelzig X-Sender: schelzig@research To: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Classic In-Reply-To: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F538519@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Hey guys, I saw something classic yesterday. A guy on a newer model > GSXR-750 wearing one of the those skull caps. The best part of it all was > that he had a full face helmet strapped to the passenger seat. Can you say > squid boy? I was picking my brother up at GW in the cage, and I saw a guy on newer model sports bike pull out onto 23rd st. wearing literally a t-shirt, shorts, and Teva sandles. Hopefully his backpack was one of those Dainese combined back-protector/back-packs because he was just asking for it. A friend who was riding along and has just gotten his MC license after taking an MSF course and I were beside ourselves about what a dipshit this guy must be. Appearance, my friends, is everything... allbests, erik From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 09:00:37 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24735 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10669 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web312.yahoomail.com (web312.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.108]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA28904 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:00:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990409130141.28397.rocketmail@web312.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web312.yahoomail.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 06:01:41 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:01:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Ride sheets was -->Re: Saturday rides? To: NJitzul@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey, if you guys have any nice ride sheets, I'd love to add em to the handful that I've already started on my web page... just email a text copy or snail mail em and I'll add em... http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ride.html Collin --- NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: . Repeat of the Arch Run? Should I search for any other > rides I > might have? Or should I be totally impromptu and sally forth > unguided? I was > actually looking to follow, but I don't mind leading. Better than > riding > alone! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 09:00:40 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24738 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:00:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2RKADYWV>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:00:35 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Classic Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:00:29 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > I was picking my brother up at GW in the cage, and I saw a > guy on newer model sports bike pull out onto 23rd st. wearing literally a t-shirt, > shorts, and Teva sandles. Perhaps he's so good that he'll never wreck? I mean, after riding for a couple weeks, and buying the 'best sportbike on the market'.. that means you're never wreck, right? *scratching under the cast from when I got hit from behind and pushing into the car infront of me.. while driving down the road* I mean, you know.. I have all the experience, I'll never wreck... Brian (yes, this is sarcasim.. laugh damnit! :) From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 10:00:32 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25582 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10Vbo7-0001ua-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:58:55 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA13037 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002c01be8292$1212a340$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: Subject: Re: Throttlemeister Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:05:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 >Ordered a throttlemeister today for my YZF1K. I'm hoping that by engaging >the cruise control when necessary, I can give my throttle hand a break on >long rides. Any sport bike pilots out there use this product? Comments? > A lot of people on the VFR list use them. I havent used it myself but I hear nothing but good comments about it. I plan to get one myself when I get some spare change. Dave From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 10:17:06 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25867 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:17:04 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA03835; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:16:36 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma029863; Fri, 9 Apr 99 10:08:56 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9X00HEQE0JB0@XXXXXX>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:10:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525674E.004D8E1A ; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:07:06 -0400 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:05:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Throttlemeister To: djones@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525674E.004D4E23.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I have a throttlemeister, and really like it. However, you have to taqke it for what it is ... a throttle lock. It works great for giving your hand a break on the slab, but it is not a cruise control that compensates for rpm and elevation changes ... Kinda pricey too ... --chris To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Christopher Meier/P I/Arlington VA/C&L/US) From: djones@XXXXXX Date: 04/09/99 05:59:13 AM GMT Subject: Throttlemeister Ordered a throttlemeister today for my YZF1K. I'm hoping that by engaging the cruise control when necessary, I can give my throttle hand a break on long rides. Any sport bike pilots out there use this product? Comments? DJ From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 10:19:31 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25897 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:19:30 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA05602; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:19:47 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma002794; Fri, 9 Apr 99 10:14:27 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9X00GQ4E9C00@XXXXXX>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525674E.004E0967 ; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:12:22 -0400 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:09:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Rain gear - recommendations? To: McKeithen@XXXXXX Cc: fwegerich@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525674E.004D93D5.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I bought a 2-piece fieldsheer set of motorcycling rain gear for that same price. I bought from MotoLE (Colleen), but I know motoport sells several 1 and 2 piece sets that are ~$40. I also bought boot covers and Glove covers at the Atlanta Int'l MC show. Haven't needed them yet, so I can't comment. --chris To: fwegerich@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Date: 04/09/99 11:43:52 AM GMT Subject: Re: Rain gear - recommendations? It May not be expensive enough for you BMW folks, but I a $40 set from LL Bean. Folds up small enough to keep in the tank bag so its always with me and I never get caught out. Bob From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 11:04:51 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26573 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:04:49 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA03852; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:05:31 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma001065; Fri, 9 Apr 99 11:00:43 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9X00MVKGEYME@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:01:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525674E.00524DF4 ; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:58:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:50:56 -0400 Subject: Directions to Summit Point? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525674E.005135A3.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hi all. I've been to Summit once before, but this time I'll be coming from a different direction. Can anyone give me directions to the track from Charlestown, WV? I know it's pretty close to there, but I'm not sure exactly how to get to it. I'll be coming west on route 9 into Charlestown. Thanks for any help. FWIW, I'm somewhat familiar with the area, having gone to college nearby (Shepherdstown). Chris Weaver VTR1000 From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 11:17:07 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web312.yahoomail.com (web312.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.108]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26802 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990409151813.14882.rocketmail@web312.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web312.yahoomail.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:18:13 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Directions to Summit Point? To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > Hi all. > > I've been to Summit once before, but this time I'll be coming from a > different direction. Can anyone give me directions to the track from > Charlestown, WV? This from http://marrc.nova.org/summitpt.htm Summit Point Raceway is a 2-mile track (see the map of the track layout) in sleepy Summit Point, West Virginia, reachable from many interesting roads that wind through the West Virginia mountains. Located about an hour and a half from Baltimore, MD, and just over an hour from Washington, DC, the track is easily accessible from throughout the Mid-Atlantic region. From Northern Virginia: Take Rt. 7 west past Leesburg toward Winchester. Turn right on Rt. 632 and turn right at the next two 'T' intersections. The track is on the right. From Frederick, MD: Take US 340 west through Charles Town, then go straight on WV Rt. 51 for one block. Bear left on Summit Point Road (Rt. 13). The track is eight miles from Charles Town on the left. From Winchester, VA: From US 81 take Rt. 7 east for about 7 miles, then turn left onto Rt. 632. Turn right at the next two 'T' intersections. The track is on the right. For more information and detailed directions from anywhere in the country, check out the Summit Point Raceway Home Page. Admission to the track is about $20.00 per person for motorcycle events (remember that safety crew volunteers get complimentary admission, plus are fed over the weekend!), and includes camping throughout the site. There is a concession stand with a limited menu, and bathroom facilities available. The nearest hotels are located in Charles Town, WV, and Winchester, VA. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 11:35:39 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from send501.yahoomail.com (web504.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA27073 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990409153653.1195.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web504.yahoomail.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:36:53 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:36:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Re: Rain gear - recommendations? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A two-piece rainsuit by Dri Rider has worked well for me. I'm not sure how much it costs, it was a gift, but I think you could get one for around $50-60. Sean Sullivan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 11:44:01 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA27199 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10VdQG-0005j6-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:42:24 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA06920 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007201be82a0$847fd160$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: Subject: Re: Directions to Summit Point? Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:48:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 I take 9 coming from Leesburg into Charles Town. In Charles Town I think its the second light I make a left. The name may be something like E Washington Street, but Im not sure. I do know that there is a Chinese restaurant on the corner which will be on your right once you turn left. After that you will go through one or two lights, passing a gas station on your left. You will come to a three way stop, its kind of a "Y" shaped intersection. You should see a sign that says Summit Point pointing you straight ahead. You will cross some train tracks, and then its pretty much a 10 mile ride of twisty road to the track. It will be on your left just after you pass a fenced in junk yard on your left, you cant miss it. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 10:50 AM Subject: Directions to Summit Point? >Hi all. > >I've been to Summit once before, but this time I'll be coming from a >different direction. Can anyone give me directions to the track from >Charlestown, WV? I know it's pretty close to there, but I'm not sure >exactly how to get to it. I'll be coming west on route 9 into Charlestown. >Thanks for any help. FWIW, I'm somewhat familiar with the area, having gone >to college nearby (Shepherdstown). > >Chris Weaver >VTR1000 > > > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 11:47:11 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mail.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA27262 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:37:59 EST Message-Id: <199904091137.AA16253184@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Directions to Summit Point? X-Mailer: My first trip up to SP last year, I only had a rough idea how to get there, I got myself so thoroughly lost, spent an extra couple of hours riding around until I stumbled across "Summit Point Road" - I figured I was getting close. And I was, after I reached Charles Town and had to turn around go back the correct way. :) Anyway, it was a nice trip, nice area to ride in, I had a blast hanging around in Collin's pit and watching the fun out on the track, and I even had a ball getting lost. Will I be going again sometime this summer - you bet! :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- Take US 340 west through Charles Town, then go straight on WV Rt. 51 for one block. Bear left on Summit Point Road (Rt. 13). The track is eight miles from Charles Town on the left. -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - Her's. Mine. Ours. :) 1987 Suzuki Savage - Unretired. 1998 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer - RIP :( -- From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 12:26:13 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27922 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:26:11 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id MAA25566; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:27:20 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma025147; Fri, 9 Apr 99 12:25:47 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9X00LKEKCDFP@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525674E.005A11BB ; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:23:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:16:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Directions to Summit Point? [Thanks - All Set..] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525674E.00595BA1.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Thanks to everyone who replied. I've got all the info I need now. Cheers, Chris Weaver From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 12:51:07 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28435 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA12848 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA05060 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lcsa3 (sterling-internal-217.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0F9X00J85LGKG7@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:50:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:51:28 -0400 From: Gary Foreman Subject: RE: Directions to Summit Point? In-reply-to: <8525674E.005135A3.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Cc: Dc-Cycles Message-id: <000001be82a9$3633c940$d929bccc@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) If anyone hasn't told you...watch out for the Law when cruising through the little town of Summit Point. They love to nab bikers there. They even follow you to the gate and write the ticket right there! > -----Original Message----- > From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX > [mailto:christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 10:51 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Directions to Summit Point? > > > Hi all. > > I've been to Summit once before, but this time I'll be coming from a > different direction. Can anyone give me directions to the track from > Charlestown, WV? I know it's pretty close to there, but I'm not sure > exactly how to get to it. I'll be coming west on route 9 into Charlestown. > Thanks for any help. FWIW, I'm somewhat familiar with the area, > having gone > to college nearby (Shepherdstown). > > Chris Weaver > VTR1000 > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 13:10:59 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f124.hotmail.com [209.185.131.187]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28752 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:10:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 51576 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 17:10:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409171020.51575.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:10:20 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.22] From: "Leon Begeman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: report from down under Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:10:20 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Z-mann wrote: >I started out on a Kaw 440LTD and damn near killed myself just on that. > So where was your father when all this happened? Did he help you with the Kaw LTD? If not why not? I think your parents failed in your upbringing if they didn't 1) teach you about dangerous things and 2) allow you to get into situations where you may experience some pain from doing it wrong before you get to 16 and are old enough to kill yourself by doing it wrong. Sometimes kids breaking bones is a good thing. Leon. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 13:28:34 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f168.hotmail.com [209.185.131.231]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29078 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36068 invoked by uid 0); 9 Apr 1999 17:28:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990409172800.36067.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.23 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:28:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.23] From: "Leon Begeman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Throttlemeister Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:28:00 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain DJones asked: >Ordered a throttlemeister today for my YZF1K. I'm hoping that by engaging >the cruise control when necessary, I can give my throttle hand a break on >long rides. Any sport bike pilots out there use this product? Comments? Does the John Deere count as a sport bike? I use the lever-style throttle lock. It's one of the first things that goes on a new bike. Leon. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 13:33:53 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA29157 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA13110 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06069 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:33:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10Vf8N-0001HO-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:32:03 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA20290 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:33:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00c801be82af$dc85da80$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: Re: Directions to Summit Point? Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:39:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 >If anyone hasn't told you...watch out for the Law when cruising through the >little town of Summit Point. They love to nab bikers there. They even >follow you to the gate and write the ticket right there! Good point. I almost always see cops waiting with radar in the afternoon to knab the sportbikers as they leave the track with visions of Kenny Roberts (or Collin Fagan) running through their heads. They usually have 4 or 5 guys pulled over waiting their turn to be written up. Follow you to the gate? How might you know that? Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 13:46:03 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA29394 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2R7YH5RJ>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:45:53 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Directions to Summit Point? Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:45:51 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Funny, I was going to say that in the past 2 years, I've never seen a cop up there (well, with the exception of one cruising through the pits looking for someone.. > >If anyone hasn't told you...watch out for the Law when > cruising through the > >little town of Summit Point. They love to nab bikers there. > They even > >follow you to the gate and write the ticket right there! > > > Good point. I almost always see cops waiting with radar in > the afternoon to > knab the sportbikers as they leave the track with visions of > Kenny Roberts > (or Collin Fagan) running through their heads. They usually > have 4 or 5 > guys pulled over waiting their turn to be written up. > > Follow you to the gate? How might you know that? > > Dave Cross > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 14:06:50 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29772 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:05:57 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:05:54 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:09:57 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Throttlemeister -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I've used these on a few bikes, and they're great for long trips. Just make sure you adjust it properly--it should be loose enough for you to override it when "on," and shouldn't interfere with normal throttle action when "off." Otherwise, rock on. Joe >>> - 4/9/99 1:59 AM >>> Ordered a throttlemeister today for my YZF1K. I'm hoping that by engaging the cruise control when necessary, I can give my throttle hand a break on long rides. Any sport bike pilots out there use this product? Comments? DJ From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 14:12:03 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29883 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:12:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13427 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:11:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07058 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lcsa3 (sterling-internal-217.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0F9X00JI0P7GUD@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:12:24 -0400 From: Gary Foreman Subject: RE: Directions to Summit Point? In-reply-to: <00c801be82af$dc85da80$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> To: David Cross , Dc-Cycles Message-id: <000601be82b4$84bf3440$d929bccc@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Nope, wasn't me. I was buying my ticket at the time. I will admit the WV State pulled me many many years ago. I was on my XS1100 cruising through Summit Point going towards Charlestown. I had my wife on the back, with both of our shields flipped up, turned and talking (really going slow). A Pickup truck blew by passing me. I turned to my wife and commented on what an asshole he was. Got to the crossroad, and the cop pulled me over. I thought "great, he's gonna say something about me having the shield up" (I was pulled over for this in Martinsburg once, warned and let go), but no. He said I was speeding. Sure...I speed, we all do...but this time, no. I asked him what about the pickup that just passed me doing 60. He said he didn't see a pickup. I commented on how nice it was that the WV police hire the handicapped, and wondered where his seeing eye dog was. All the time, my wife was getting a little nervous. He sat me in the car, and I started into a rage you wouldn't believe about how he could write until his fingers dropped off, and I'd never sign the ticket. He said he would have to take me in. I said let's go. Meanwhile my wife is standing on the side of the road, 5'4", 110 lbs. with a 500lb motorcycle. He finally called me a belligerent Son-Of-A-Bitch, and said he would just write me a warning ticket (something they don't have in VA). Of course this was in my young and dumb days. Now I just say thanks, have a nice day, and pay my ticket...though if I was in that exact same situation again, I'm not sure I wouldn't do the same thing on principal. Sorry for the long rant. It bought back memories! > Good point. I almost always see cops waiting with radar in the > afternoon to > knab the sportbikers as they leave the track with visions of Kenny Roberts > (or Collin Fagan) running through their heads. They usually have 4 or 5 > guys pulled over waiting their turn to be written up. > > Follow you to the gate? How might you know that? > > Dave Cross > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 14:36:03 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00400 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13868 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:35:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA07878 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:35:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id LAA05483 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:35:48 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:35:48 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: DC-Cycles Subject: twisties on the edge Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:35:46 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Check this out... http://members.tripod.com/~Lovik/invitasjonMCtreff.html From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 14:39:40 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00422 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990409184716.13626.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web303.yahoomail.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 11:47:16 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:47:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Throttlemeister To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > DJones asked: > Ordered a throttlemeister today for my YZF1K. I'm hoping that by > engaging the cruise control when necessary, I can give my throttle > hand a break on long rides. Any sport bike pilots out there use this > product? Comments? The Concours is a Sport Touring bike, so I guess it's close enough. :-) I love having my Throttlemeister. It makes the straight stretches of relatively same speed easier. I have it just tight enough so that it doesn't move by my having my hand on the handgrip, but if I should grip and twist (on or off) it will move easily. Gives me a chance to stretch, scratch, or otherwise just move my arms a bit without having to slowdown or speed up. I could have gotten the throttle lock with a lever, but on the Concours, that would have required screwing the lever to the brake fluid reseviour to keep the lever from spinning around. With my kind of luck, I'd go too far and cause a leak, all over the paint and other bad stuff. The Throttlemeister is a little expensive compared to the lever kind, but I thought it was worth it. Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 14:51:55 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00668 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:51:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7SLBW5P; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:45:38 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: They're here.... Message-ID: <19990408.174125.5039.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,4-5,7-9 From: Bikes R Us Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:45:38 EDT Today, we received both the GSX1300R Hayabusa and the Yamaha R6! The R6 feels taller in the saddle than the R1 and more tightly-wound. The Hayabusa may not be beautiful in your eyes, but it clearly will live up to its hype. It's low and squatty and just says, "I AM DAMN FAST." Feel free to stop by and check them out, but hurry 'cause they're both already sold. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 14:55:54 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil ([137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00745 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2TN08LYC>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:54:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Throttlemeister Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:54:46 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I agree with the 'bit pricey' thing.. but I figure that since I need replacment bar-ends anyway (due to my accident.. well, they were a bit beat-up when I got them too), the price is easily justifiable... Of course, that's for AFTER I pay for the RC-30 carbs, headlights, fairing stay, guages, HRC exhaust, new frame and swingarm (only $150 total for those) and bodywork.. :P I have a ways to go I think... Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 15:02:36 1999 Return-Path: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bmdo.mcri.com (root@[207.124.52.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00876 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:02:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from My ([192.168.13.117]) by bmdo.mcri.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA01712 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:04:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199904091804.OAA01712@bmdo.mcri.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John Newman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:04:25 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Directions to Summit Point? Priority: normal References: <00c801be82af$dc85da80$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> In-reply-to: <000601be82b4$84bf3440$d929bccc@loudoun.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Are you referring to having the face shield on your helmet up? I had no idea this was against the law in WV or anywhere else..... When I wear sun glasses I ride with mine up all the time- especially at slower speeds when the extra ventilation is needed.... Am I am outlaw? -John N Gary Foreman wrote: > I thought "great, he's gonna say something about me having the shield >up" (I was pulled over for this in Martinsburg once, warned and let >go) From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 15:21:29 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from send501.yahoomail.com (web503.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01246 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990409192434.8160.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web503.yahoomail.com; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:24:34 PDT Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:24:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Re: Throttlemeister To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I could not find the lever-style throttle locks last summer. The dealers said they didn't carry them for liability reasons or because customers kept returning them after they fell apart. Who's your source, Leon? Sean Sullivan --- Leon Begeman wrote: > Does the John Deere count as a sport bike? I use > the lever-style > throttle lock. It's one of the first things that > goes on a new bike. > > Leon. > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 15:28:34 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01400 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2TF6BPXF>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:28:05 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" Subject: Bearings Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:28:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain FWIW URL for bearing interchange. It's one of several. http://www.fag.com/service/wvs.html From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 15:38:28 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01560 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A72B8F900E4; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:38:19 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990409153642.012d3530@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:38:52 -0400 To: Sean Sullivan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Not Throttlemeister In-Reply-To: <19990409192434.8160.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:24 PM 4/9/99 , Sean Sullivan wrote: >I could not find the lever-style throttle locks last >summer. The dealers said they didn't carry them for >liability reasons or because customers kept returning >them after they fell apart. Who's your source, Leon? > Sean Sullivan Here's some http://www.dwrracesupport.com/~spider5/tr/throttle.htm http://www.dnet.net/~pemble/deals1.htm Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 16:19:53 1999 Return-Path: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02388 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:19:52 -0400 (EDT) From: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from TZimm2450@XXXXXX by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id iKFDa20343; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:58:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:58:05 EDT Subject: Re: report from down under To: mriderleon@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Well I havn't had a dad since 11 years old and yes he had a bike. It was fun to ride on until he left with no intentions of comming back. Now my mom has no idea how to ride or to teach me. I went to a MSF course and learned on NS50's had a great time and started out on the Kaw. I didn't have anyone to teach me so I learned by the process or elimination. Which almost led to my elimination but I'm feeling much better now. I have a YZF600 and don't push to hard. Zmann From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 16:31:36 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02662 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:31:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5-fddi.mcit.com [166.37.204.27]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id UAA03573 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:31:22 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990409203037.BZFI11909@[166.41.242.214]> for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:30:37 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Pathetic Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:28:11 -0400 Message-ID: <000201be82c7$7cb21160$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Just looking through my latest (free) issue of Motorcyclist (May99) and the article on the HYPER VTEC technology for the Japan only CB400. The column takes up but a small corner of one page with dismal graphics to illustrate the principal behind (HYPER) VTEC. This is pathetic. >From inside cover to inside cover, 91 of 146 pages are advertising of some sort (that's right, I'm bored at work), or 63%. There is no way you can convince me that at $3.50 newstand price, this magazine needs to carry this much advertising to make a healthy profit. Greedy it seems. Good thing I got mine free (he, he) and thank goodness for MCN. Todd From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 20:06:23 1999 Return-Path: rdt@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06208 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rdt (207-172-187-198.s198.tnt18.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.187.198]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA21287 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:06:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000b01be82e6$3a3b3400$c6bbaccf@rdt> From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: Subject: SP races on Saturday Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:08:12 -0400 Organization: Attorney at Law X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Anyone heading out to SP tomorrow morning? IF so, let me know the details. Roy D. Turner, Esq. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 20:10:14 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06243 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.42]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.7) with SMTP id ; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 19:50:13 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Sean Sullivan" , Subject: RE: Throttlemeister Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:52:23 -0400 Message-ID: <008401be82e4$032ba960$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <19990409192434.8160.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Got a lever style throttle lock at Morton's BMW. They had some about two weeks ago when I was last in there. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 20:10:17 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06245 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.42]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.7) with SMTP id ; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 19:45:17 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: Throttlemeister Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:47:26 -0400 Message-ID: <008301be82e3$5283a9a0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <8525674E.002059FE.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal VERY popular on the BMW lists. It's an easy install, but take a few extra minutes to make sure you have it correctly adjusted. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > Ordered a throttlemeister today for my YZF1K. I'm hoping that by engaging > the cruise control when necessary, I can give my throttle hand a break on > long rides. Any sport bike pilots out there use this product? Comments? > > DJ From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 20:10:19 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06254 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.42]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.7) with SMTP id ; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 19:40:52 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" , Subject: RE: Cheap bikes Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:43:01 -0400 Message-ID: <008101be82e2$b4a6c280$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal I'll see you and raise you: http://www.madmanbiker.com/ Just found this the other night. They sell damaged and repoed bikes. Lots of serious trash, but for the enterprising individual... ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > Apparently this site sell damaged vehicles and includes > pictures. Most of the pictures of the bikes I looked at didn't > show much damage. http://www.ecocar.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 20:10:20 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06263 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:10:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.42]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.7) with SMTP id ; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 19:43:34 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Frank Wegerich" , Subject: RE: Rain gear - recommendations? Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:45:43 -0400 Message-ID: <008201be82e3$1532f240$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <370D51D9.3ADD96AA@earthlink.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Belstaff waxed cotton. Never gotten wet, even in the crotch. But... It doesn't breathe so well. So I'm considering an Aerostich and will only use the Belstaff in the really crap. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Wegerich [mailto:fwegerich@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 9:03 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Rain gear - recommendations? > > > Got really wet last weekend and learned my lesson ====> I am looking for > some good rain gear (pants + jacket preferred). Does anyone have > recommendations? > > Thank you > Frank - BMW R1100RT > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 21:13:29 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA07197 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:13:27 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id VAA28858; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:14:17 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma028437; Fri, 9 Apr 99 21:13:32 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F9Y0049H8RRMM@XXXXXX>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525674F.00068A38 ; Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:11:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:09:45 -0400 Subject: Re: Not Throttlemeister To: Chris Norloff Cc: Sean Sullivan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525674F.00064083.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Chris, I think Leon meant a throttle lock (like Ventura, I think), not a throttle rest. They (used to) make a type that you rotated a lever and it locked the throttle in place. Two very different animals ... --chris To: Sean Sullivan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Christopher Meier/P I/Arlington VA/C&L/US) From: Chris Norloff Date: 04/09/99 07:38:52 PM GMT Subject: Not Throttlemeister At 03:24 PM 4/9/99 , Sean Sullivan wrote: >I could not find the lever-style throttle locks last >summer. The dealers said they didn't carry them for >liability reasons or because customers kept returning >them after they fell apart. Who's your source, Leon? > Sean Sullivan Here's some http://www.dwrracesupport.com/~spider5/tr/throttle.htm http://www.dnet.net/~pemble/deals1.htm Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 9 22:51:33 1999 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08511 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:51:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (a0215.chantilly.mns.net [206.239.104.247]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA13954 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <370ED9F1.874@mnsinc.com> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:56:17 -0700 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Throttlemeister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "David Cross" > >Ordered a throttlemeister today for my YZF1K. I'm hoping that by engaging > >the cruise control when necessary, I can give my throttle hand a break on > >long rides. Any sport bike pilots out there use this product? Comments? > A lot of people on the VFR list use them. I havent used it myself but I > hear nothing but good comments about it. I plan to get one myself when I > get some spare change. Why not just get a small rubber ring to place between the grip and the bar end to have a passive "system" ? Others on the VFR list have done this too. Cost is about .50 compared to $100. :) JK From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 10 02:30:34 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA11996 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:30:33 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV3NVJQR; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:30:26 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31K5WG; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:30:28 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 8525674F.002E0CF1 ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:30:25 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, thunderacelist@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525674F.00228B77.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:29:28 -0400 Subject: Sport Leathers Riders, It's time to splurge & purchase some leathers. I don't want to spend a grand, but I don't want poor quality leathers either. Since I just picked up the YZF, I might as well get some leathers to match. I've been on the pavement before & if I need to spend a grand, I will, price really isn't a limitation, but aren't there some good quality 2-piece leather suits? What about the AGV brand? Their prices are in my price range, $5-700. I'm not opposed to used sets either. 44 chest, 33 waist, 5'10", 205lbs......Comments??? Thanks, DJ From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 10 12:46:02 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22694 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:46:00 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 7NPRa27562; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <74c5fd0a.2440da20@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:45:20 EDT Subject: Re: Sport Leathers To: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, thunderacelist@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/10/99 2:37:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, djones@XXXXXX writes: << It's time to splurge & purchase some leathers. I don't want to spend a grand, but I don't want poor quality leathers either. Since I just picked up the YZF, I might as well get some leathers to match. I've been on the pavement before & if I need to spend a grand, I will, price really isn't a limitation, but aren't there some good quality 2-piece leather suits? What about the AGV brand? Their prices are in my price range, $5-700. I'm not opposed to used sets either. 44 chest, 33 waist, 5'10", 205lbs......Comments??? Thanks, DJ >> DJ, In case no one's mentioned it to you, try Colleen at www.leatherexchange.com. She's our DC area used leather dealer and she has some pretty good stuff at good prices. You can also try www.newenough.com. He's not in this area but he also sells used leathers at a reasonable price. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 10 15:02:27 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA24647 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:02:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id fABSa23597; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1b2f634b.2440fa0f@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:01:35 EDT Subject: Re: Classic To: Dysart@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/9/99 7:42:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Dysart@XXXXXX writes: << A guy on a newer model GSXR-750 wearing one of the those skull caps. >> I think I have seen that guy in Annapolis. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 10 17:50:58 1999 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27025 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust039.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.39]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA15006 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:51:13 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990410175007.006a8b00@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:50:07 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Not Throttlemeister In-Reply-To: <8525674F.00064083.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" christopher.meier wrote: >I think Leon meant a throttle lock (like Ventura, I think), not a throttle >rest. They (used to) make a type that you rotated a lever and it locked >the throttle in place. Chris Norloff wrote: >Here's some >http://www.dwrracesupport.com/~spider5/tr/throttle.htm >http://www.dnet.net/~pemble/deals1.htm I'm not sure if it's Ventura, but Chris Meier sounds right to me. The throttle lock uses a lever and locks the throttle into place (purchased for about $30 from Manassas Honda.) For the throttle rest like Chris Norloff recommended, I bought $7 handgrips from JCWhitney that have the nub already sticking out on the throttle side. It isn't adjustable, once you get it in place it stays there, it does essentially the same thing as the one Chris N. uses. Leon. From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 10 20:28:39 1999 Return-Path: F4Rider@XXXXXX Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (viper.bcbsblue.com [208.146.143.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28920 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:28:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (root@localhost) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id UAA27701 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com ([199.97.109.162]) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id UAA27697 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com (root@localhost) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with ESMTP id UAA17710 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brad-s-pc ([192.168.90.28]) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with SMTP id UAA17706 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:33:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990410202721.007be8c0@ns2.pgcc.net> X-Sender: brad@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:27:21 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Brad Subject: A great day at Summit! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Beautiful weather (I got sunburn :-( ), and a 2nd place finish for Collin in the Solo 16 made for a truly enjoyable day at the track. Met some fellow Dc-Cyclers for the first time, including Tom, Todd, Brian, Sean Sullivan, Anita, and a few other whose names I forget at the moment. Thanks to Collin, Brian, and Jay for letting me bum around their pit. I learned quite a bit guys! I got to watch an F2 clutch being taken apart and put back together - both the wrong way AND right. Unfortunatly, Jay didn't get to do a whole lot of track time due to problems with the clutch slipping. Hope you get that fixed by next time. --Brad From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 08:39:52 1999 Return-Path: fj1100@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28833 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lcsa3 (sterling-internal-217.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FA200D0HTTQ7W@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:39:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:40:34 -0400 From: Gary Foreman Subject: RE: Directions to Summit Point? In-reply-to: <199904091804.OAA01712@bmdo.mcri.com> To: John Newman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000001be84e1$a8e5e7e0$d929bccc@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) The officer said "Eye Protection" is required. I had no glasses on. The speed limit was 25...guess he had nothing better to do and the donut shop was closed. > -----Original Message----- > From: John Newman [mailto:jnewman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 11:04 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Directions to Summit Point? > > > Are you referring to having the face shield on your helmet up? I > had no idea this was against the law in WV or anywhere else..... > > When I wear sun glasses I ride with mine up all the time- especially > at slower speeds when the extra ventilation is needed.... > > Am I am outlaw? > > -John N > > > Gary Foreman wrote: > > I thought "great, he's gonna say something about me having the shield > >up" (I was pulled over for this in Martinsburg once, warned and let > >go) > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 08:44:35 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28910 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:44:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id IAA25584 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE84C0.92C14700@XXXXXX>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:43:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: A great day at Summit! Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:43:43 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brad wrote... > Beautiful weather (I got sunburn :-( ), Me too. I have a burn line right across my forehead from wearing my hat backwards :(. My wife giggles every time she looks at me. I guess that's why baseball hats have those bill thingies on them. >and a 2nd place finish for Collin in the Solo 16 ... Congrats, Collin! My party was leaving just as race 7 (Saturday) was starting, but the last thing I heard over the PA was "Collin Fagan in first..." :) So I didn't get any photos of the dcc crew on the track. Maybe next time. And I will definitely bring the long lens next time too. Rich From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 08:59:18 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA29110 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <24QCQ7QZ>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:59:09 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Summit experience.. Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:58:57 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Heh.. I don't know what you guys are talking about with Collin.. he was turning 2+minute lap times.. getting passed by Everyone.. don't know what happened.. maybe riding that cruiser all winter made him yearn for a harley and a half-shell lid.. ;) Ok, so it was raining and everyone else had rain-tyres... a better write-up to come.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 09:58:23 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29950 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D7ZSRRNR; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:52:44 EDT To: jnewman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Directions to Summit Point? Message-ID: <19990411.133230.8111.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <000001be84e1$a8e5e7e0$d929bccc@loudoun.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4-5,9-12,14-45 From: Bikes R Us Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:52:44 EDT The law in most states with helmet laws is that you must wear a DOT approved helmet and eye protection. If you have a full-face helmet with the visor down, you're complying with both statutes at once. If you raise the shield, you have to have glasses or goggles on to protect your eyes from flying foreign objects. If you wear your sunglasses while riding with your visor up, you're okay. Technically, your sunglass lenses should be made of shatterproof safety material, but the cop would have to be a super deluxe penis to write you up for that part. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:40:34 -0400 Gary Foreman writes: >The officer said "Eye Protection" is required. I had no glasses on. >The >speed limit was 25...guess he had nothing better to do and the donut >shop >was closed. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Newman [mailto:jnewman@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 11:04 AM >> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: RE: Directions to Summit Point? >> >> >> Are you referring to having the face shield on your helmet up? I >> had no idea this was against the law in WV or anywhere else..... >> >> When I wear sun glasses I ride with mine up all the time- especially >> at slower speeds when the extra ventilation is needed.... >> >> Am I am outlaw? >> >> -John N >> >> >> Gary Foreman wrote: >> > I thought "great, he's gonna say something about me having the >shield >> >up" (I was pulled over for this in Martinsburg once, warned and let >> >go) >> > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 10:17:24 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00417 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2Z1W77TV>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:14:24 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F538591@DADC040> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Bikes R Us'" , jnewman@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Directions to Summit Point? Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:16:43 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Why is that? All the full face helmet shields I've ever had specifically say "Not Guaranteed Shatterproof" right on them. Glenn >Technically, your sunglass lenses should be made of shatterproof safety >material, but the cop would have to be a super deluxe penis to write you >up for that part. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 11:13:15 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01397 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:13:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <24QCBJSK>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:12:58 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: WERA 4/10-4/11 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:07:28 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Well, after a really LONG day at work (ok, I was watching every second tick off the clock through the entire day!), I got on the road towards the track at about 4:40pm. Noticing a dark horizon and cloud-cover overhead.. I'd hoped that the storms I'd been watching on-line would be minimal and quick. No such luck.. I was POUNDED on the way up there.. though, it did back off long enough for Collin and I to set up our pit, and me to set up my tent.. Hell, even found myself downing a few beers before calling it an early evening (11~12pm). Next morning began at 7am for myself.. Listened in on the MARRC cornerworkers meeting to find out what the safety crew had to say about track condition. It was chilly, but sunny. Walked over to the pits with the information I'd gathered and found Jay there at this time.. Brad showed up a short time later. Collin and I worked on setting up his suspension (sag and pre-load.. dampening out back.. etc). Things were running fairly smoothly for Collin with the exception of having a dead battery and no numbers. Jay encountered a slightly more major problem.. his clutch was slipping something fierce. With no replacement in hand, and no idea of where to pick one up.. We decided to open up the bike and see if we could refurbish the plates in the bike. In reassemble (the first time), I didn't read the manual closely enough and got things misarranged.. this pushed the clutch bearing out, there-by causing it not to work at all.. 4~5 more disassembles and one kind soul (another racer, didn't ketch his name) later.. we had the bike together and looking like it'd work. Jay went out for his race, but ended up pulling in after the first lap because it was slipping so bad (Jay, just how DID you pass the people you did with the slipping clutch?). This was the same race that Collin took the lead in for the first few laps... then, somewhere in there arch-nemesis (ok, fell friend) Roman (something weird I can't even pronounce) got by him down in, what.. T5? and lead Collin for a bit. Of course, Collin running over the curbing in T6 didn't help our plans to win the race (and what a curb-shot it was.. left several feet of black markings up and over the concrete curbing). >From there on, it just seemed that Roman had to much of a lead for Collin to make up.. and from my position along the front straight, it seemed like luck was against Collin as he kept getting held up by lap traffic while Roman had it clear and easy. Turning times averaging in the 1.25's, we're very happy with the race, and it would have been much closer without the curb-shot.. but, hey.. 2nd is an awesome place to be on the first race of the year with unknown tires/suspension!!! By the end of the race, Jay was about ready to get home.. lots of DC-Cycles listers had dropped by to offer support, and we'd seen a 4th person of our race team (Joe Nagy) who's also currently unable to ride. The new Avons appear to be very good rubber - they didn't show hardly any signs of wear - even though our ham-fisted rider was sliding the back end through T10 everytime. In talking with some other riders on Dunlops.. it appears that we were about 2psi higher (on average) than the rest of them with 28psi. Collin will have to offer more info on them as far as stick and ride are concerned. It also appears as if our guesses on suspension were VERY close to accurate. Racing finished for the day, and we commenced with the eating and drinking.. it turned out to be a late night for me as I finished my last beer in conjunction with the first of a new days rain at 4am. The sound of a PA system woke me at about 8am.. as did the pond I was sleeping in (thank God for thermarest and thermafilld sleepingbags!). It had rained fairly hard.. and was fluctuating between moderate and really hard for the entire morning. Practices were shortened severely, stopped often and everyone seemed to be on their rains. We had rains, but debated putting them on. After discussion, we decided to leave the Avons on the bike and see how they handled in the wet. The rain tapered off, and stopped for much of the afternoon.. drying up enough to allow Collin a 3rd place position.. then the skys opened up once again and everyone on rains passed him by. We missed the final race of the day due to donating the borrowed battery to another racer (Al Lapp.. used to be a lister on DC-Cycles). Incidentally, Al took a home-built super-Hawk to a 2nd place finish in the rain yesterday. Well, the weekend ended, we packed up and headed out.. Next race weekend is April 24/25 - it's CCS. If you didn't make it to the track this time around, then come on out and see us then. I should have my RS125 on display (with a For Sale sign on it). Collin should pull a few wins out of the hat for our first team win. Jay should have a new clutch and back into the racing mix.. and hopefully Joe will be available to race as well (I'm out till at Least late May). I have some pictures from the track.. need to kill off the roll first though. I should have those posted sometime in the next couple of weeks. Ride safe everyone... Brian McCoy - Team DC-Cycles Racing From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 11:14:01 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01407 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com ([209.135.198.107]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id LAA10294 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990412110818.006cab0c@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:08:18 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: face-sheilds Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I guess the WV police have been hanging out with the Ocean City MD police. I have been pulled over for not having my full face visor down, while having sunglasses on. My question for the policeman who said I had to have the visor down is: What if you are wearing a police issue helmet that does not have a face visor? Again, the donut shop was out of fresh ones. Lisa Lisa Goddard Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 11:22:49 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01627 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:22:48 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 2XVIa20575 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:20:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <84a1bc8a.24436923@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:20:03 EDT Subject: Re: Sport Leathers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX http://members.aol.com/motorle/index.html try this website - she's got a good rep Marcy In a message dated 4/10/99 2:37:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, djones@XXXXXX writes: > I will, price really isn't a > limitation, but aren't there some good quality 2-piece leather suits? What > about the AGV brand? Their prices are in my price range, $5-700. I'm not > opposed to used sets either. 44 chest, 33 waist, 5'10", > 205lbs......Comments??? From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 11:27:30 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01714 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 252; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:27:23 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990412112511.01e30030@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:26:28 -0400 To: "Lisa S. Goddard" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: face-sheilds In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990412110818.006cab0c@kivex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:08 AM 4/12/99 , Lisa S. Goddard wrote: >I guess the WV police have been hanging out with the Ocean City MD police. >I have been pulled over for not having my full face visor down, while >having sunglasses on. My question for the policeman who said I had to >have the visor down is: What if you are wearing a police issue helmet that >does not have a face visor? I don't know the MD or WVA laws, but in VA faceshield up and sunglasses on is not a problem. Does the law specifically state that condition is punishable? Thats pretty anal. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 11:31:22 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01784 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00358 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:31:01 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02253 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 6FULa20575; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:30:14 EDT Subject: Re: face-sheilds To: Lisa@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: NJitzul@XXXXXX I thought you just had to have an "approved" helmet in MD. The MSF required us to have some sort of eye protection, but it didn't matter if it was a visor or glasses. Was there any citation given? If so, I'd challenge it. I wonder if these same cops wait at stop lights in August to catch the bikers that raise their visors to cool off while stopped? Sheesh... Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 11:49:50 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02048 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00750 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02900 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lcsa3 (sterling-internal-217.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FA300EPX2LN8E@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:49:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:50:08 -0400 From: Gary Foreman Subject: RE: face-shields In-reply-to: To: NJitzul@XXXXXX, Lisa@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000e01be84fc$23ecd060$d929bccc@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) This was MANY MANY years ago. I was not cited, just harassed, along with the other 4 bikers. All bikes got the once over, stick up the pipe to check for baffles, License/Reg, the whole nine yards. After 30 minutes or so we were let go. It was a young cop, with too much time on his hands. I'm not knocking all cops, my dad was one. But they have to have bigger problems to work on other than my shield being flipped up. > -----Original Message----- > From: NJitzul@XXXXXX [mailto:NJitzul@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 11:30 AM > To: Lisa@XXXXXX > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: face-sheilds > > > I thought you just had to have an "approved" helmet in MD. The > MSF required > us to have some sort of eye protection, but it didn't matter if it was a > visor or glasses. Was there any citation given? If so, I'd > challenge it. I > wonder if these same cops wait at stop lights in August to catch > the bikers > that raise their visors to cool off while stopped? Sheesh... > > Robert VanSlyke > 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 11:59:20 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02274 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:59:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24424 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:59:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Ride report: NVTR's Fort Valley Trail Ride In-Reply-To: <199904121552.LAA14692@members.fcac.org.> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I picked up a ride report from usenet (rec.motorcycles.dirt) and thought there might be someone here interested in checking it out. You can read it at http://members.nova.org/~kirk/fortvalleytrailride.txt After reading it I really wish I wasn't in VA Beach this weekend... Maybe next time. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 12:33:25 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02840 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:33:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA01717 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:33:21 -0400 (EDT) From: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04261 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from TZimm2450@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vXXBa16609 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:32:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:32:53 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TZimm2450@XXXXXX http://members.nova.org/~kirk/fortvalleytrailride.txt That was a pretty cool story. Do we have anyting like that around here or in this area? Race bikes are fun and all but the cops are really a bear at times and off roading looks like a different world all together. Z-mann 98/600YZF From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 12:37:58 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA02929 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 16:37:54 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA12586 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:37:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:37:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic Reply-To: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: My day at FATT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII First off, sorry I couldn't make it out to watch collin kick ass. I was pretty beat after friday, and had errands to run. Ick. But I'll try my darndest to be there at the end of april. Anyway. Slippery point. Er. Summit point. Fun fun fun! All I can say is, if you have a sports/sporty car, and are looking to have some great fun, I highly reccomend FATT. The instructors were very nice and helpful (and somewhat more daring than I was), and I really got a feel for the track. Of course, it had to rain. It rained on the way up, and I was quite upset - figuring that it would be raining all day. Luckily, when I arrived, it had stopped, and the track was only about 30-40% wet.. it was damp, but the only standing water was in the back stretch between 9 and 10. My first experience was with a .. *cough cough* lunatic *cough cough*.. er.. brave instructor by the name of Neil. Neil's operating words were: "Faster" "Rock and roll" "Faster" "Rock and roll" and I think he used the words "faster" a few times too. What neil did an *excellent* job of was showing me how to properly drive around the track. They also had the braking/apex cones up, which was quite useful as well. Amazingly enough, after the 20 minute session, I pretty much knew the lines I needed to take! My second session was in the POURING FREAKING RAIN. It didn't suck, but I almost lost it a few times. First, going down the front straight, into turn 1, coming in too hot.. braking.. braking.. locking the wheels. Bad. Letting off the brakes a touch. Shit. Not stopping fast enough. Applying more brakes. Lock the fronts again. Shit. Let off a bit, tires rolling again, starting to target fixate on gravel trap. My instructor says "TURN TURN TURN!". I promptly turn turn turn. Tires bite, get around turn 1 no problem. Whew. Red 911 behind me backs off, wondering what the hell is wrong with me :). Impressed with my car, I keep scooting around the track. I get to the stretch between turn 7-9. My first instructor warned me that the back end liked to get squirrely there. He wasn't kidding! All im going to say is, I dont know what the hell surface is between turns 7-9, but jeez louise! When you are going in a straight line, lightly accelerating, and you toss the back end loose three times, SOMETHING IS WRONG! Anyway, I slid my back end out, recovered, came back around next lap, slid, recovered, slid, recovered, and slowed down in that section from then on. I relished in the fact that the Dodge Viper and GT-40 in my group both spun out, but I did not. Mwahaha. Fear my little front wheel drive piece of jap engineering. I noticed that whenever I would brake hard (ie the 110 mph -> 40 mph slowdown for turn one, or the 90 mph -> 70 mph slowdown for 10), the back end would get real real squirrely. I talked it over with one of the instructors, and he told me that I was probably mashing the brake pedal too suddenly, and transferring the weight forward too quickly. He said just apply the brake pedal a TOUCH slower. Sure enough, it fixed it. Damn. They do know what theyre doing. I went to the skidpad after lunch. FUN! They take old police cruisers, deflate the rear left tire to like 15 PSI, put on nasty ass bald tires on all the wheels, and have you drive clockwise around a circle, throwing the back end out and recovering. 5 minutes later, I felt like one of the kids on the merry-go-round who got stuck there when a sadistic parent comes up and spins everyone far too fast so they throw up. Or something. Session three was uneventful. I was a little gun-shy after all the slipping and sliding in the second session, and I didn't really click with my instructor. He didn't say much, I didn't push hard, and the session ended. Anti-climactic would be the way to describe it. Luckily, the track was only the slightest bit damp at the end of session three. Session four. The best one of the day, by far! Got the same instructor I had in the second session. Whoever he was, damn, he knew his biz. He races in the SCCA RX7 Spec class, and clearly knew what to do around summit point. I also was at the front of the pack (I was the very first car in line at the pits) so I didn't have any slow people in front of me. Whooo! I squealed my tires through every single corner (yeah, theyre crappy street tires. What do you want), and went hog wild. He was still telling me to go faster in some sections, but I stayed where I was comfortable, and had a blast. After this VERY fun session, he was nice enough to take me out in his Spec RX7. HOLY CRAP. For an '84 with 100 hp, that thing *moves*. Goes to show that its not about brute power.. my car kicks out 210, but I'd be hard pressed to stay within 66% of his speed around the track. I got to see what racing around summit point was REALLY like. Banging into the sides of the roll cage, hanging on for dear life - it was awesome. Overall, one of the best times I've had. A very, very well spent $150. And for all you MC racers - is the crap between turn 7 and 9 as bad for bikes as it is for cars? ObMoto: I found a VTR. In PA. Excellent shape, about 4000 miles on it. Looks like this is the one I get. Hopefully I'll be able to start showing up on group rides again! Thanks, Alex. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 12:57:00 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03145 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02019 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:56:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA04842 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA25604; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:56:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: TZimm2450@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Fort Valley Trail Ride In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 TZimm2450@XXXXXX wrote: > http://members.nova.org/~kirk/fortvalleytrailride.txt > That was a pretty cool story. Do we have anyting like that around here > or in this area? That is around here. The GW Forest is just west of I-81 in VA. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 13:03:45 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03266 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:03:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2TF6BTW2>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:02:50 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" Subject: Rain Gear & Throttle Lock Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:02:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Frank Wegerich moaned, "Got really wet last weekend and learned my lesson ====> I am looking for some good rain gear (pants + jacket preferred). Does anyone have recommendations?" Someone recommended "Dry Rider". I second the recommendation. Had a two piece for umpty ump years until the coating wore thin in the saddle contact area. Was great, folded up, it fit in a Vetter Quicksilver pocket. RE: 'Stich, AeroStich claims it's good up to 90 minutes, then the zippers begin to leak. But, I rode over 5 hours in a "frog strangler" before water seeped through the zippers -- but I raised my fanny ever few minutes to prevent pooling. Many other 1 hour bursts and a 3 hour drizzle, - no problemo. Throttle Lock: DJ ordered a throttlemeister Comments? $100!!! cough, ack Does it make coffee; can it type? I have Vetta throttle locks on both bikes ~$15 - 20 at local shops. They've worked great. Handy for chilly morning warm up whilst you don your armored apparel. Waving at other bikers with your right hand (pretending the Suzuki is an ancient Brit). Unzipping the vent zippers on the other side of the 'Stich. Riding with no hands cuz the weather and road is so great you feel like flapping. Putting on a glove after picking your nose. Oops, shoulda stopped there ;^) Carl in Bethesda. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 13:29:42 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03762 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2ZNHN6W3>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:29:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Rain Gear & Throttle Lock Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:18:33 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > Throttle Lock: > DJ ordered a throttlemeister Comments? > $100!!! cough, ack Does it make coffee; can it type? In defense of the Throttlemeister.. they are Beautiful crafted bar-end replacements. Not the average plastic, try and fit it between your throttle and the switch-gear housing, type thing. $100 is a bit pricey.. but I look at it (I'm buing a set too BTW) as a replacment bar-end and throttle-lock in one. I could dump an easyt $60 on OEM bar-ends.. or $20 for piece of s$@t, don't stop no vibration generic ones and $20 for the throttle lock. The cleanness and fit and finish deserve the money.. Anyway.. what's my opinion count for anyway? nothin.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 13:34:11 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03813 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:34:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10WkZP-0005sZ-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:32:27 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA24490 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00a901be850b$69d73ac0$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: Subject: Re: My day at FATT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:39:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 >Overall, one of the best times I've had. A very, very well spent $150. >And for all you MC racers - is the crap between turn 7 and 9 as bad >for bikes as it is for cars? Worse. You had 4 wheels we only have 2. When I was a cornerworker in turn 7 I was walking that section of the track to check the track condition. I looked down at the ashpalt and could see the little round stones that made up the track surface in that area. These stones were polished smooth like glass and shinned quite nicely under the sun. I bent down to feel the surface and it felt as smooth as it looked. At that time I thought "Jeez, people race on this surface?!". Now I try not to think about it when I race through that section. In the wet you had better be straight up when going through there are you WILL go down, no matter how slow you are going. Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 13:39:10 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03909 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10WkeK-00060M-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:37:32 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA00970 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00c301be850c$21a955c0$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: "'dc'" Subject: Re: WERA 4/10-4/11 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:44:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 >but, hey.. 2nd is an awesome place to be on the first race of the year with >unknown tires/suspension!!! Congrats to Collin for his 2nd place finish in Solo16 and keeping himself out of trouble in the ugly track conditions on Sunday. I wasnt so lucky (read: smart) on Sunday only because I forgot the significant difference between braking on a dry track and a wet one. I learned that one can slide a long way on ones back in the braking area for turn one in the wet, and that you can pack alot of mud and clay inside an FZR400 engine bay, inside the exhaust, under the tank, . . . Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 13:41:59 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03934 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <24QCBQYB>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:41:54 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Helmets.. Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:41:47 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Hey, anyone interested in buying new helmets at some of the better prices I've seen.. let me know. They're available in conjunction with a sponsorship deal I'm looking to work for DC-Cycles Racing.. Actually, they deal tires, Dainese, Vanson, Spidi, Spyke, AGV, and many more. He's also a dealer for Lockhart Phillips, and Targa. Thanks, Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 13:43:50 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04030 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id NAA04322; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:43:46 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from viking.concentric.net (viking [206.173.119.81]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id NAA14874; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:43:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:43:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: ERC on Sunday Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Being the rocket scientest that I am I dragged myself out of bed bright and early Saturday morning to head to the ERC class. I needn't have worried about being late as I showed up 24 hours early :P. After dragging myself out of bed bright and early Sunday morning I took a look outside and decided that reading a book would be a much more pleasant way to spend the day than 8 hours in a parking lot enduring the cold and rain. I believe that someone else from DC-Cycles was taking the same class. If this person attended I would appreciate a rundown on how things went. Warm and dry, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 13:56:52 1999 Return-Path: richardgadon@XXXXXX Received: from web126.yahoomail.com (web126.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.195]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04211 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990412175708.13001.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com> Received: from [12.79.221.2] by web126.yahoomail.com; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:57:08 PDT Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:57:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Gadon Subject: Yamaha GTS for sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1993 Yamaha GTS, excellent condition, always garaged, 10,000 miles. I have the now-hard-to-find original, Krauser hard luggage, and Heli-bars. $6900 or b/o. located in south Jersey. e-mail me or call 609-823-0801 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 14:26:37 1999 Return-Path: mark.petty@XXXXXX Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04816 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:21:01 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Group Nomenclature Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:20:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Twice now I've seen a group of Goldwings rolling up Rt 7 in formation. After a few moments, I realised that the proper term would in fact be "a flotilla of Goldwings". (Actually, my first thought was _a pod of Goldwings_, but that wasn't quite it.) So what other breeds of bikes deserve their own group name? a sortee of Bandits? a horde of Harleys? -Mark '83 V65 Magna (a villainy of V4s...) From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 14:28:55 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04908 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2ZXH74ZY>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:28:36 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F5385A9@DADC040> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Kirk Roy'" , TZimm2450@XXXXXX Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Fort Valley Trail Ride Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:28:30 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) And east of I-81. Where you cross over the mountains on US 211 east of New market is the GW forest. Glenn On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 TZimm2450@XXXXXX wrote: > http://members.nova.org/~kirk/fortvalleytrailride.txt > That was a pretty cool story. Do we have anyting like that around here > or in this area? >That is around here. The GW Forest is just west of I-81 in VA. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 14:44:59 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA05220 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 471 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:44:51 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990412144355.012c6590@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:44:49 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: RE: Fort Valley Trail Ride In-Reply-To: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F5385A9@DADC040> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Speaking from experience, the trails at GW are a bitch to hike. Mostly fist sized boulders that shift when you step on them. Very pretty scenery though. At 02:28 PM 4/12/99 , Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM wrote: >And east of I-81. Where you cross over the mountains on US 211 east of New >market is the GW forest. > >Glenn > > > >On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 TZimm2450@XXXXXX wrote: >> http://members.nova.org/~kirk/fortvalleytrailride.txt >> That was a pretty cool story. Do we have anyting like that around here >> or in this area? > >>That is around here. The GW Forest is just west of I-81 in VA. ___________________________________________ “Too bad the only people who know how to run the country are busy cutting hair and driving cabs” - George Burns Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 14:57:50 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA05496 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2TXALG5J>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:02:22 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC8C7@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Group Nomenclature Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:55:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain How about "a conclave of Concours?" Perry > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Petty [SMTP:mark.petty@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 2:21 PM > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: Group Nomenclature > > Twice now I've seen a group of Goldwings rolling up Rt 7 in formation. > After a few moments, I realised that the proper term would in fact be "a > flotilla of Goldwings". (Actually, my first thought was _a pod of > Goldwings_, but that wasn't quite it.) > > So what other breeds of bikes deserve their own group name? > > a sortee of Bandits? > a horde of Harleys? > > -Mark > '83 V65 Magna (a villainy of V4s...) From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 15:12:15 1999 Return-Path: mberman@XXXXXX Received: from min.net (root@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05804 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hamilton.arl.mil (hamilton.arl.mil [158.12.28.19]) by min.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA09861 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:08:42 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Morris Berman To: DC Cycles Subject: Names Message-ID: X-X-Sender: berman@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Gaggle of GPz's. Though it's not often that you see two or more together (except in our group). -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL(DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C)#446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 15:14:29 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05836 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:14:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 12 Apr 1999 19:14:28 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA09885 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:14:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:14:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Group Nomenclature In-Reply-To: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC8C7@md-exchange1.nai.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A bunch of Buells? Maybe thats a fully baked loaf of.. er.. harleys. > How about "a conclave of Concours?" > > Perry > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Petty [SMTP:mark.petty@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 2:21 PM > > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > > Subject: Group Nomenclature > > > > Twice now I've seen a group of Goldwings rolling up Rt 7 in formation. > > After a few moments, I realised that the proper term would in fact be "a > > flotilla of Goldwings". (Actually, my first thought was _a pod of > > Goldwings_, but that wasn't quite it.) > > > > So what other breeds of bikes deserve their own group name? > > > > a sortee of Bandits? > > a horde of Harleys? > > > > -Mark > > '83 V65 Magna (a villainy of V4s...) > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 15:14:38 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailprime.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05847 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:14:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:04:45 EST Message-Id: <199904121504.AA38928648@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Group Nomenclature X-Mailer: Is Concours both the singular and plural version? Been on the COG list for over a year now, still haven't figured that out - I guess I need to brush up on my French. Dale ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Coleman, Perry" Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:55:04 -0700 >How about "a conclave of Concours?" Perry -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - Her's. Mine. Ours. :) 1987 Suzuki Savage - Unretired. 1998 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer - RIP :( -- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 15:15:06 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05887 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:15:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id rVUIa20584; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:12:21 EDT Subject: Re: Group Nomenclature To: mark.petty@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/12/99 2:33:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mark.petty@XXXXXX writes: << So what other breeds of bikes deserve their own group name? >> A Gaggle of GSXRs? A herd of Hondas? A pack of Polaris? A legion of Laverdas? A band of BMWs? From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 15:18:58 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05909 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2TXALHZ3>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:23:45 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC8C8@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Group Nomenclature Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:16:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Dale, Hmmm...Someone will probably disagree, but since the "s" is normally silent it would be pronounced like CONcour. Given that, I would say that it is always pronounced as "CONcour" regardless of the number. One Concours, two Concours, etc. Or, a conclave of Concours... ;^) N'est pas? Perry > -----Original Message----- > From: Horkster [SMTP:horkster@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 4:05 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Group Nomenclature > > Is Concours both the singular and plural version? Been > on the COG list for over a year now, still haven't figured > that out - I guess I need to brush up on my French. > > Dale > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Coleman, Perry" > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:55:04 -0700 > > >How about "a conclave of Concours?" > > Perry > > > > -- > Dale Horstman (the Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > 1998 Kawasaki Concours - Her's. Mine. Ours. :) > 1987 Suzuki Savage - Unretired. > 1998 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer - RIP :( > -- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 15:22:09 1999 Return-Path: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bmdo.mcri.com (root@[207.124.52.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06010 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:22:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from My ([192.168.13.117]) by bmdo.mcri.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA02763 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:24:20 -0400 Message-Id: <199904121824.OAA02763@bmdo.mcri.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John Newman" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:23:44 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Group Nomenclature Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) A swarm of FZR 400s......... ................BuzzzzzzzBuzzzzz....Can you hear them coming?..... -John N. 88 Bizzer 400 > From: Mark Petty > Twice now I've seen a group of Goldwings rolling up Rt 7 in formation. > After a few moments, I realised that the proper term would in fact be "a > flotilla of Goldwings". (Actually, my first thought was _a pod of > Goldwings_, but that wasn't quite it.) > > So what other breeds of bikes deserve their own group name? > > a sortee of Bandits? > a horde of Harleys? > > -Mark > '83 V65 Magna (a villainy of V4s...) > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 15:27:58 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f247.hotmail.com [209.185.130.212]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06144 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:27:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90518 invoked by uid 0); 12 Apr 1999 19:26:45 -0000 Message-ID: <19990412192645.90517.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.23 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:26:45 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.23] From: "Leon Begeman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Group Nomenclature Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:26:45 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain a swarm of mopeds? a school of 250 Nighthawks? Leon. >From: Mark Petty >To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" >Subject: Group Nomenclature >Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:20:52 -0400 > >Twice now I've seen a group of Goldwings rolling up Rt 7 in formation. >After a few moments, I realised that the proper term would in fact be "a >flotilla of Goldwings". (Actually, my first thought was _a pod of >Goldwings_, but that wasn't quite it.) > >So what other breeds of bikes deserve their own group name? > >a sortee of Bandits? >a horde of Harleys? > >-Mark >'83 V65 Magna (a villainy of V4s...) > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 16:08:26 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06776 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id QAA10606; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:08:05 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from viking.concentric.net (viking [206.173.119.81]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id QAA05987; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:08:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:08:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Group Nomenclature In-Reply-To: <19990412192645.90517.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A gaggle of Guzzis. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 16:33:54 1999 Return-Path: tansey@XXXXXX Received: from links.magenta.com (tansey@XXXXXX [151.199.66.150]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA07286 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by links.magenta.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA06819; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:31:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Tansey To: Mark Petty cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Group Nomenclature In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Mark Petty wrote: > a sortee of Bandits? > a horde of Harleys? A murder of Marauders Shannon From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 17:28:25 1999 Return-Path: ewinslow@XXXXXX Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08169 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:28:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (ewinslow@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17023 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:28:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Winslow To: DC cycles list Subject: GS500E for sale Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 1993 Suzuki GS500E, bought new in 1995. I am the original owner. It now has 28,000 miles on it and has been well maintained. It is all stock except for Progressive springs up front and a foam Uni air filter. It is red and in great condition. Comes with a color-matched National Cycle Airhawk GT windscreen which works great for the cold weather and long rides. Asking $1900. My home phone is 202-588-7349. Eric '93 GS500E '94 KLR650 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 17:36:28 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08305 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2TXALNVX>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:41:15 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC8CB@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: RE: Group Nomenclature Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:33:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Good one! -----Original Message----- From: Hugh A. Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sent: 4/12/99 1:08 PM Subject: Re: Group Nomenclature A gaggle of Guzzis. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 17:42:26 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08442 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:42:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D72MFMQF; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:39:04 EDT To: Dysart@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Directions to Summit Point? Message-ID: <19990411.201607.5047.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F538591@dadc040> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-4,6-19 From: Bikes R Us Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:39:04 EDT I don't know why. A cop told me this and I had no reason to doubt him at the time... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:16:43 -0400 "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" writes: >Why is that? All the full face helmet shields I've ever had >specifically >say "Not Guaranteed Shatterproof" right on them. > >Glenn > > >>Technically, your sunglass lenses should be made of shatterproof >safety >>material, but the cop would have to be a super deluxe penis to write >you >>up for that part. > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 17:54:01 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08619 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D72M2WMT; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:49:35 EDT To: mark.petty@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Group Nomenclature Message-ID: <19990411.202645.5047.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-5,7-20 From: Bikes R Us Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:49:35 EDT I've always referred to giant groups of Goldwings as the "Goldwing Armada" or "errant members of the Royal Japanese Navy," but the flotilla term sums it up pretty well, too. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:20:52 -0400 Mark Petty writes: >Twice now I've seen a group of Goldwings rolling up Rt 7 in formation. >After a few moments, I realised that the proper term would in fact be >"a >flotilla of Goldwings". (Actually, my first thought was _a pod of >Goldwings_, but that wasn't quite it.) > >So what other breeds of bikes deserve their own group name? > >a sortee of Bandits? >a horde of Harleys? > >-Mark >'83 V65 Magna (a villainy of V4s...) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 22:08:54 1999 Return-Path: holmzrus@XXXXXX Received: from floyd.qis.net (floyd.qis.net [209.150.96.22]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12328 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from qis.net (pm3-balt-175.qis.net [209.150.97.175]) by floyd.qis.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id WAA14557; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:08:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3712A833.7222D661@qis.net> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:13:07 -0400 From: "Mitchell K. Holmes" Reply-To: holmzrus@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Coleman, Perry" CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: Re: Group Nomenclature References: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC8CB@md-exchange1.nai.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Mass of Magnas (or is that a Mess of Magnas?) A Myriad of Magnas Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda Magna VF700C "Coleman, Perry" wrote: > > Good one! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hugh A. Caldwell > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Sent: 4/12/99 1:08 PM > Subject: Re: Group Nomenclature > > A gaggle of Guzzis. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 12 23:30:47 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13407 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA10148 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:30:44 -0400 (EDT) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA23310 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vKXGa23597 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <553a6c3a.244412c1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:23:45 EDT Subject: Thoughts on trailering To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Ive been toting aroung my stepbrothers bike as well as my own the past couple days, I just wanted to post some thoughts and see what you all thought. when towing the bikes, I usually just compress the forks a little bit, enough to keep it steady. Today though, we almost completely compressed the forks(just kinda worked out that way) and I found that when going over bumps, the bike wanted to jump more than it did when not so tight... I would have figured the more compressed the better.. any thoughts? Sean... From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 00:03:00 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13772 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:02:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA11111 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:02:55 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA23804 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id vWHZa16615 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:59:49 EDT Subject: Re: Group Nomenclature To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: NJitzul@XXXXXX a spectrum of Shadows... a sample of Shadows... a crew of cruisers... a group of Harleys (not broken down)? A miracle!! ;) Robert "the instigator" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 02:01:12 1999 Return-Path: Ondgo@XXXXXX Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA15381 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 02:01:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Ondgo@XXXXXX Received: from Ondgo@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 2CSTa22983 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 02:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 02:00:27 EDT Subject: please un-subscribe me To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Ondgo@XXXXXX unsubscribe, and thanks....... Jean Comtois From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 08:32:29 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA21578 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA15948 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA29478 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:32:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A955149201B0; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:32:21 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990413083128.012a2ca0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:32:01 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Thoughts on trailering In-Reply-To: <553a6c3a.244412c1@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:23 PM 4/12/99 , CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX wrote: >when towing the bikes, I usually just compress the forks a little bit, enough >to keep it steady. Today though, we almost completely compressed the >forks(just kinda worked out that way) and I found that when going over bumps, >the bike wanted to jump more than it did when not so tight... >I would have figured the more compressed the better.. any thoughts? Perhaps the forks are bottoming out. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 08:32:26 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA21575 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A951149201B0; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:32:17 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990413082709.012ab290@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:30:50 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Directions to Summit Point? In-Reply-To: <19990411.201607.5047.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F538591@dadc040> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I suspect "Not Guaranteed Shatterproof" is just a legal disclaimer. As I recall, VESC 8 or ANSI Z90 are the two standards for protective eyewear. This is not to say they cannot be shattered, merely that they provide a certain level of protection above ordinary eyewear and are not heavy or cumbersome to use. (Reminds me of trying on a Police "Tactical Entry Helmet" with two pieces of bulletproof (bullet resistant?) glass in a V-shape to look through. It sure was awkward). Chris Norloff At 05:39 PM 4/12/99 , Bikes R Us wrote: >I don't know why. A cop told me this and I had no reason to doubt him at >the time... > >JohnDavid@Bikes R Us > >On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:16:43 -0400 "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" > writes: >>Why is that? All the full face helmet shields I've ever had >>specifically >>say "Not Guaranteed Shatterproof" right on them. >> >>Glenn >> >> >>>Technically, your sunglass lenses should be made of shatterproof >>safety >>>material, but the cop would have to be a super deluxe penis to write >>you >>>up for that part. >> > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 09:15:22 1999 Return-Path: jay.stpeter@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22222 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:15:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10X30V-00034r-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:13:39 -0400 Received: from jay (ravinc.clark.net [168.143.30.5]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA07937 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001101be85af$a26bfe30$afc809c0@jay> From: "Jay St. Peter" To: Subject: RE: Group Nomenclature Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:14:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE858E.1A877DD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE858E.1A877DD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A trailerload of Harleys ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE858E.1A877DD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A trailerload of=20 Harleys
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE858E.1A877DD0-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 11:16:03 1999 Return-Path: bee@XXXXXX Received: from mtolympus.ari.net (newmtolympus.ari.net [198.69.192.180]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24185 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (bee@localhost) by mtolympus.ari.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16261; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:28:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bee@XXXXXX) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:28:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian E. Ewell" To: "Jay St. Peter" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Group Nomenclature In-Reply-To: <001101be85af$a26bfe30$afc809c0@jay> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ROFLMAO - I almost snorted coffee out my nose. Warn us next time, will ya. :-) Brian. On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Jay St. Peter wrote: > > A trailerload of Harleys > From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 11:43:58 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web302.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.184]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA24668 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:43:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990413154459.3692.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web302.yahoomail.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:44:59 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:44:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: WERA 4/10-11 results To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This will be the short form. A full weekend report will be forthcoming soon on our web page under the race reports section: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ MW Solo 16 2nd B Production 10th Formula 1 6th B superbike did not race Avon tyres worked Fantastic (see below) Saturday was clear and dry. Led the HW Solo16 for about 4 or 5, then was passed by a buddy. The two of us checked out big time from the rest of the pack. Took home $135 for the 2nd. Sunday was cold and wet! I had rain tires, but it boiled down to the fact that I was too lazy to put them on, as well as I wanted to see how the new tires would be in the wet. Lot's of sliding, but I was having a hoot passing folks on rain tires. The B production race I ended up in 10th. It dried some for the Formula 1 race, and I actually worked up into third place when my buddy (who won the day before) went down hard in turn 4 and I watched as him and his bike skidded off into the tire wall! OUCH! It was even drier on the restart, and once again I threaded my way up and was either 2nd or 3rd, laughing at all the guys on rain tires cause they were starting to shred on the drying pavement... then they got the last laugh as the sky opened up and deluged us. They went right back around me, and the race was red flagged. I ended up with 6th place in that one. Didn't get to race in the last event (B superbike) cause I had loaned out the battery that I was borrowing to another racer in the previous race. He took 2nd and was held up in post race tech. We got the battery put back in my bike jsut in time to see my race speed off.. oh well... not like I was in contention in the rain anyway... The Avon Azarro Supersports were awesome in the dry weather. The rounder profile eliminated almost all of the tank slapping problems I had been having on the dunlops...Rear wheel performance was outstanding as well. The slides were very predictable and pinpoint controllable with throttle application. They also appear to be wearing better than the dunlops... No severe peeling on the front, and no ripping, feathering, or cold tears on the rear. Convieniently, I just got a sponsorship package from Avon in the mail Monday morning!! woohoo. They were already $60 cheaper than the dunlops, now they are over $100 cheaper for me!! It's gonna be a great season! Collin Proudly sponsored by: Fast lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 12:02:17 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA25026 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:02:16 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id MAA16716; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:03:07 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma016403; Tue, 13 Apr 99 12:02:56 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FA40054JXYPPG@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:04:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256752.0057FB4F ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:00:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:42:55 -0400 Subject: Short Squid Conversation To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256752.004FD978.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I had a conversation last night that I thought some of you might find amusing. I was out for a short ride on my new VTR, and I stopped at a local gas station to fill up. As I'm doing so, a young guy (early twenties or so), comes by and starts looking her over. We start talking, and the guy says, "Oh yeah, I ride a Smokin' Joe's." I know enough to realize he's talking about the F3 race-replica paint scheme that Honda sold last year. I've seen the guy around before - more accurately, I've heard the guy around before. His pipe sounds like a 500 decibel buzz saw. He admires my bike and admits that he couldn't ride a bike like that because he "rides in shorts all the time, and the heat would cook my legs." I immediately felt like saying "Oh, so you're one of those squids I hear so much about!" I thought better of it, and just bade him farewell. Chris Weaver VTR1000 p.s. I wasn't able to make it to Summit Point after all, due to some unforeseen objections by the current s.o. From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 12:14:20 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25199 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2ZNH3CQ0>; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:14:03 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Short Squid Conversation Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:14:01 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > > p.s. I wasn't able to make it to Summit Point after all, due to some > unforeseen objections by the current s.o. > Shouldn't that be 'PAST' SO.. or soon to be forgotten SO..?? I mean, what good are they if you can't go out and do the things you love? (sheesh, can you tell I'm in for the long haul bachelor award?) Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 12:22:30 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA25348 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:22:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 13 Apr 1999 16:22:28 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA18514 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:22:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Short Squid Conversation In-Reply-To: <85256752.004FD978.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > p.s. I wasn't able to make it to Summit Point after all, due to some > unforeseen objections by the current s.o. Why does that sound so bad? :) "I thought my wife Julie was going to be on duty this weekend, but it turned out to be my wife Sharon.. and whenever I get that one, she never lets me go down to the races.. damn this SO rotation system!" *grin* Alex. From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 12:27:25 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA25425 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990413163409.10141.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web307.yahoomail.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:34:09 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:34:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Short Squid Conversation To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Uh-Oh... time to get a new S.O.!!!!! he hehe.. Just kidding man... --- christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > p.s. I wasn't able to make it to Summit Point after all, due to some > unforeseen objections by the current s.o. > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 12:35:33 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25584 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:35:31 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV3NVRV1; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:35:31 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31LQTY; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:35:31 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256752.005B20EF ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:35:22 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256752.005ADAFB.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:33:13 -0400 Subject: Throttle-Meister & Leathers Review: Nice peace of work. Had to fiddle a bit to get it to hold while in motion. In the garage, it would lock consistently, but once in motion, it would start to slip. I'm sure vibration had alot to do with it. After a few tightening mods, it holds beautifully. They are not as heavy as my original bar ends, but heavy enough to keep the vibration down. Leathers: I found a new set of discontinued Teknic leathers at www.newenough.com. They should be here by friday. I'll look like the neighborhood power ranger, but at least if I go down again, I'll be protected & I'll look good doing it. I've been down before & this will give me more confidence to really get squidly...(clear throat) just kidding. I heard the T-shirts were in? Thanks, DJ 97' YZF1000R aka "Faith" From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 12:36:13 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25587 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:36:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgkuc01821 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256752.005B67E2 ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:38:23 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256752.005B6532.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:28:13 -0400 Subject: Re: WERA 4/10-11 results Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline To: "Collin T. Fagan" @ INTERNET cc: Subject: Re: WERA 4/10-11 results (Document link not converted) Yay Collin! Congrats on the sponsorship! Here's hoping for dry track next time... - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 12:38:05 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25614 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:38:04 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV3NVRVY; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:38:04 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31LQV1; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:38:04 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256752.005B5CF0 ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:37:55 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256752.005AFA6C.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:34:14 -0400 Subject: Throttle-Meister & Leathers Review: Nice peace of work. Had to fiddle a bit to get it to hold while in motion. In the garage, it would lock consistently, but once in motion, it would start to slip. I'm sure vibration had alot to do with it. After a few tightening mods, it holds beautifully. They are not as heavy as my original bar ends, but heavy enough to keep the vibration down. Leathers: I found a new set of discontinued Teknic leathers at www.newenough.com. They should be here by friday. I'll look like the neighborhood power ranger, but at least if I go down again, I'll be protected & I'll look good doing it. I've been down before & this will give me more confidence to really get squidly...(clear throat) just kidding. I heard the T-shirts were in? Thanks, DJ 97' YZF1000R aka "Faith" From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 12:42:47 1999 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25698 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <26KQZ7Q0>; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:38:35 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Short Squid Conversation Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:38:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain And he probably puts his feet behind him on the tail. Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda Magna VF700C -----Original Message----- From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX [mailto:christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 10:43 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Short Squid Conversation I had a conversation last night that I thought some of you might find amusing. I was out for a short ride on my new VTR, and I stopped at a local gas station to fill up. As I'm doing so, a young guy (early twenties or so), comes by and starts looking her over. We start talking, and the guy says, "Oh yeah, I ride a Smokin' Joe's." I know enough to realize he's talking about the F3 race-replica paint scheme that Honda sold last year. I've seen the guy around before - more accurately, I've heard the guy around before. His pipe sounds like a 500 decibel buzz saw. He admires my bike and admits that he couldn't ride a bike like that because he "rides in shorts all the time, and the heat would cook my legs." I immediately felt like saying "Oh, so you're one of those squids I hear so much about!" I thought better of it, and just bade him farewell. Chris Weaver VTR1000 p.s. I wasn't able to make it to Summit Point after all, due to some unforeseen objections by the current s.o. From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 12:47:57 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web302.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.184]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA25834 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990413164901.17205.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web302.yahoomail.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:49:01 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:49:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: WERA 4/10-11 results To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I feel like a big heel. I forgot to throw out a big thank you to all that showed up to say howdy and to watch me race. It really does mean a lot to see familiar faces at the track, and even more hearing the cheers and seeing the waves on the cool down lap! Makes me want to do even better next time :) Thanks again to all who came out and to all those that wanted to but had other conflicts. Collin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 13:30:54 1999 Return-Path: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26666 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:30:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from Lordorange@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 2SPNa22984 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:29:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7cc71260.2444d915@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:29:57 EDT Subject: WERA 4/10 - 4/11 + corner working To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Lordorange@XXXXXX A big congratulations to Collin and his 2nd place finish. Saturday & Sunday I spent my first weekend as a corner worker at Summit Point. Big Fun!! However, I did pull about 9 - 10 bikes out of the deep, deep mud on turn one on Sunday. Fortunately, no serious injuries. I highly recommend corner working to anyone and everyone. -matt From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 15:27:38 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28612 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:27:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10X8on-0007Za-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:25:57 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA10355 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003001be85e4$72ec9ea0$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: Subject: Re: WERA 4/10 - 4/11 + corner working Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:33:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 >A big congratulations to Collin and his 2nd place finish. > >Saturday & Sunday I spent my first weekend as a corner worker at Summit >Point. Big Fun!! However, I did pull about 9 - 10 bikes out of the deep, >deep mud on turn one on Sunday. Fortunately, no serious injuries. > >I highly recommend corner working to anyone and everyone. Then you probably helped pull my bike out of the mud. I crashed at the start of the first race of the day in the breaking area for turn one. Black FZR400 and me in my white leathers which managed to stay pretty clean. I locked up the front brake and down I went. I must have slid several feet. Thanks for the help and thanks for voulenteering to stand out in the rain and wet for 10+ hours. I hope I never come face to face with another cornerworker again. I much prefer just to wave to you guys on the cool down lap. Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 16:19:34 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA29539 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:19:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990413202122.22349.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web301.yahoomail.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:21:22 PDT Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:21:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: My day at FATT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Alex Milenkovic wrote: > > First off, sorry I couldn't make it out to watch collin kick > ass. I was pretty beat after friday, and had errands to run. > Ick. But I'll try my darndest to be there at the end of april. > Yeah, yeah, ya weenie... hit a gym and get in better shape! (like I'm one to talk!!) > Anyway. Slippery point. Er. Summit point. > You said it brother! Even worse in the rain! > but the only standing water was in the back stretch > between 9 and 10. > You mean the LAKE that was in the entrance to T10?? :) > My first experience was with a .. *cough cough* lunatic *cough > cough*.. > er.. brave instructor by the name of Neil. Neil's operating words > were: > "Faster" "Rock and roll" "Faster" "Rock and roll" and I think he used > the words "faster" a few times too. My kind of instructor!! "Brakes?!? We don't need no stinkin brakes!!" > And for all you MC racers - is the crap between turn 7 and 9 as bad > for bikes as it is for cars? > Through 7, the front end of the bike likes to push a lot.. more than anywhere else on the track, but it is very linear and easy to control your line and make steering changes on.. you're just passing time through 7 anyhow though so you can "Rock and Roll" through 8 and 9. 8 is OK, but stay out of the potholes to riders right before 9. 9 has lots of grooves that make you feel like you're sliding, but you really aren't that much.. just go faster and it smooths out :) Collin === -- Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Tires _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 16:53:12 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA00295 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA24238 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA15700 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:52:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (209-122-205-54.s54.tnt4.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.205.54]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA18532 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3713AC8D.C87@erols.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:43:57 -0400 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: group nomenclature Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An EXHALTATION of BMW's A PALL of Harleys A BLUSTER of Hurricanes An ATTACK of Ninjas A POD of Gold Wings A WHOOSH of ZX-11's generic names a GLIMMER of cruisers squids: a GLIMMERING of; a CRASH of: a FESTERING of; a BOTHER of; -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 23:02:57 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA05938 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:02:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 2WNQa20578; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <367a80c.24455e59@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:58:33 EDT Subject: Peg dragging. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cbr@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Eternity23@XXXXXX Just thought I should let eveyone know that I dragged my first peg today. Scared the shit out of me. For a split second I thought about pulling out of the lean, but realized it meant running over a curb and launching off a small embankment, and then striking the back of a Target store......I kept it heeled over and thankfully came to a red light where I could ride my adrenalin rush. Whew! Crazy stuff....but fun...have to try again tomorrow. -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 23:31:36 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA06393 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA29406 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:31:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.205.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA24874 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:31:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA01382 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:31:22 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma001380; Tue, 13 Apr 99 23:31:02 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990413232653.0095f140@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:31:00 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Wow! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was riding on 395 tonight, and sure got cold in my shorts and Tevas. At one point, I was riding along with my feet tucked up on the rear seat when a bug hit me in the eye. I guess if I had been wearing a helmet or sunglasses, it wouldn't have hurt so bad. But they get in the way when I'm doing stoppies and wheelies. Oh - and my friends taught me to ride. They said the MSF course is useless. And it really is true that a slight beer buzz makes you more relaxed while you ride! _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 The great thing about lights set for 35MPH is that they work at 70 too. From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 13 23:37:43 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA06534 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA29451 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA25028 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zellto (adsl-151-200-16-190.bellatlantic.net [151.200.16.190]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA26347; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002501be8628$53ae53a0$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> From: "Thomas and Jeannette" To: "Gary Foreman" , , Cc: References: <000e01be84fc$23ecd060$d929bccc@loudoun.com> Subject: Re: face-shields Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:38:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Speaking of dads and cops... when my dad was a DC cop back in the 70's, I don't think he wrote more than 10 tickets during his entire career! I used to ride around with him in the squad car a lot and he never once pulled anyone over that I can remember. On the other hand I can remember him doing what the police used to do... fighting crime. Oh well... the good 'ole days. And back then it was fried chicken... not donuts. -Tom '86 VFR750 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Foreman To: ; Cc: Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 11:50 AM Subject: RE: face-shields > This was MANY MANY years ago. I was not cited, just harassed, along with > the other 4 bikers. All bikes got the once over, stick up the pipe to check > for baffles, License/Reg, the whole nine yards. After 30 minutes or so we > were let go. It was a young cop, with too much time on his hands. I'm not > knocking all cops, my dad was one. But they have to have bigger problems to > work on other than my shield being flipped up. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NJitzul@XXXXXX [mailto:NJitzul@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 11:30 AM > > To: Lisa@XXXXXX > > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: face-sheilds > > > > > > I thought you just had to have an "approved" helmet in MD. The > > MSF required > > us to have some sort of eye protection, but it didn't matter if it was a > > visor or glasses. Was there any citation given? If so, I'd > > challenge it. I > > wonder if these same cops wait at stop lights in August to catch > > the bikers > > that raise their visors to cool off while stopped? Sheesh... > > > > Robert VanSlyke > > 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 00:29:00 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07328 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA00947 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:28:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA25807 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.34]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.7) with SMTP id ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:24:31 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Mike T" , Subject: RE: Wow! Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:25:46 -0400 Message-ID: <003e01be862e$de2c10c0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <4.1.19990413232653.0095f140@www.troutman.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > Oh - and my friends taught me to ride. They said the MSF course is > useless. And it really is true that a slight beer buzz makes you more > relaxed while you ride! Dude! You're such a wuss. I taught myself how to ride on a brand-new Blackbird. Now I wish I hand't learned to ride until that GSXR1300 came out. -------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 05:30:51 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA12761 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA04186 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA29448 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s156.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.198]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 5535600 ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:29:22 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <002501be8628$53ae53a0$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: face-shields Message-Id: <199904140929.5535600@zzapp.org> On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:38:55 -0400, Thomas and Jeannette wrote: >Speaking of dads and cops... when my dad was a DC cop back in the 70's, I >don't think he wrote more than 10 tickets during his entire career! I used >to ride around with him in the squad car a lot and he never once pulled >anyone over that I can remember. On the other hand I can remember him doing >what the police used to do... fighting crime. Oh well... the good 'ole >days. And back then it was fried chicken... not donuts. I believe that the problem lies in the fact that most criminals are armed and tend to fight back. On the other hand, speeders...... Every time I see a cop go by with his lights flashing and siren blaring, I can't help but think that Dunkin' Donuts is down to their last dozen..... (remember the opening credits to the first Naked Gun movie???) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 06:26:35 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA13376 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2ZXH8S6X>; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:23:06 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F5385F6@DADC040> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Mike T'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Wow! Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:25:27 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Tevas? They just get in the way of shifting, try bare feet next time and 8 shots of tequila. I fund that makes for a better ride. The last thing is to make sure you have plenty of hair gel when riding without a helmet. That way you will still look pretty when you get where you are going. Glenn >I was riding on 395 tonight, and sure got cold in my shorts and Tevas. At >one point, I was riding along with my feet tucked up on the rear seat when >a bug hit me in the eye. I guess if I had been wearing a helmet or >sunglasses, it wouldn't have hurt so bad. But they get in the way when I'm >doing stoppies and wheelies. >Oh - and my friends taught me to ride. They said the MSF course is >useless. And it really is true that a slight beer buzz makes you more >relaxed while you ride! From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 06:46:56 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA13674 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-105-6.s69.as1.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.105.6]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id GAA09495 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003901be8664$37a40420$0669accf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: YSR50 races Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:47:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Last year I took a cruise to Monrovia Raceway in MD and watched the Yamaha YSR50 racing. These guys are a bunch of nuts. They race on a go cart track with lots of sharp corners. The racing was entertaining to say the least. This years schedule includes 5/2, 6/27, 8/7-8 and 10/17. I plan on going to at least one race this year. Has anyone else seen these guys race? I will post the web site when I find the address. I think there is a link thru Team Calamari racing. See ya all soon, Brian N 96 FZR600. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 07:59:15 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA14550 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA05389 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:59:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA01084 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A30B1FA300CA; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:59:07 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990414073355.0132db50@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:34:38 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Wow! In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990413232653.0095f140@www.troutman.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You forgot to tell us if you never use the front brake, to avoid flipping over. Chris Norloff At 11:31 PM 4/13/99 , Mike T wrote: >I was riding on 395 tonight, and sure got cold in my shorts and Tevas. At >one point, I was riding along with my feet tucked up on the rear seat when >a bug hit me in the eye. I guess if I had been wearing a helmet or >sunglasses, it wouldn't have hurt so bad. But they get in the way when I'm >doing stoppies and wheelies. > >Oh - and my friends taught me to ride. They said the MSF course is >useless. And it really is true that a slight beer buzz makes you more >relaxed while you ride! > >_____________________________________ > Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org > > '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 > The great thing about lights set for 35MPH > is that they work at 70 too. > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 09:21:24 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay4.UU.NET (relay4.UU.NET [192.48.96.14]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15705 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:21:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgkxh13444; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:19:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256753.00498183 ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:22:52 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Dysart Glenn B. Mr. SAM" cc: "'Mike T'" , "'DC Cycles'" Message-ID: <85256753.00498121.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:12:32 -0400 Subject: RE: Wow! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline ...and don't forget the girl in the bikini on back, that's a must every time!! "Dysart Glenn B. Mr. SAM" on 04/14/99 06:25:27 AM To: "'Mike T'" , "'DC Cycles'" cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: RE: Wow! Tevas? They just get in the way of shifting, try bare feet next time and 8 shots of tequila. I fund that makes for a better ride. The last thing is to make sure you have plenty of hair gel when riding without a helmet. That way you will still look pretty when you get where you are going. Glenn From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 09:34:02 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15884 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:34:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgkxi23552; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256753.004AC1DB ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:36:32 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: Eternity23@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cbr@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256753.004AC0F6.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:26:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Peg dragging. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline YOU GO!!! I haven't gotten to peg scraping yet, but hope to someday! : ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Eternity23@XXXXXX on 04/13/99 10:58:33 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cbr@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Peg dragging. Just thought I should let eveyone know that I dragged my first peg today. Scared the shit out of me. For a split second I thought about pulling out of the lean, but realized it meant running over a curb and launching off a small embankment, and then striking the back of a Target store......I kept it heeled over and thankfully came to a red light where I could ride my adrenalin rush. Whew! Crazy stuff....but fun...have to try again tomorrow. -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 09:42:09 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA16082 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 13:42:08 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA09645 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:42:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Wow! In-Reply-To: <85256753.00498121.00@172.16.2.37> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > ...and don't forget the girl in the bikini on back, that's a must every time!! > I think of all the squidly offenses, this is the one that bothers me the least, and I have to admit I stare at the nicely built girls who wear bikinis on bikes.. Kinda like that girl down in miami (back when I lived near there). She would sell hot dogs by the curbside in a G-String, till the cops made her stop, because she was causing too many fender benders (from the rubberneckers). Alex. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 09:45:28 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA16145 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:45:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id JAA16997; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:45:24 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from viking.concentric.net (viking [206.173.119.81]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id JAA13657; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:45:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Wow! In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990413232653.0095f140@www.troutman.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dude, your rock! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Mike T wrote: > I was riding on 395 tonight, and sure got cold in my shorts and Tevas. At > one point, I was riding along with my feet tucked up on the rear seat when > a bug hit me in the eye. I guess if I had been wearing a helmet or > sunglasses, it wouldn't have hurt so bad. But they get in the way when I'm > doing stoppies and wheelies. > > Oh - and my friends taught me to ride. They said the MSF course is > useless. And it really is true that a slight beer buzz makes you more > relaxed while you ride! > > _____________________________________ > Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org > > '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 > The great thing about lights set for 35MPH > is that they work at 70 too. > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 09:56:22 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA16293 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id JAA16490; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:56:18 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from viking.concentric.net (viking [206.173.119.81]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id JAA22199; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:56:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Wow! In-Reply-To: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F5385F6@DADC040> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Actually I find my Tevas quite comfy to ride in. The strap on the front acts as a pad when you're up shifting. Also, if you ride barefoot the bottom of your feet get all spooged up with road gunk and they won't let you into happy hour without shoes. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM wrote: > Tevas? They just get in the way of shifting, try bare feet next time and 8 > shots of tequila. I fund that makes for a better ride. The last thing is > to make sure you have plenty of hair gel when riding without a helmet. That > way you will still look pretty when you get where you are going. > > Glenn > > > > >I was riding on 395 tonight, and sure got cold in my shorts and Tevas. At > >one point, I was riding along with my feet tucked up on the rear seat when > >a bug hit me in the eye. I guess if I had been wearing a helmet or > >sunglasses, it wouldn't have hurt so bad. But they get in the way when I'm > >doing stoppies and wheelies. > > >Oh - and my friends taught me to ride. They said the MSF course is > >useless. And it really is true that a slight beer buzz makes you more > >relaxed while you ride! > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 10:02:59 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA16451 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:02:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id KAA17604; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:02:56 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from viking.concentric.net (viking [206.173.119.81]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id KAA14493; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:02:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:02:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Wow! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hmmmm, this is the actually the only squidly behaviour that actually offends me and it's not because I object to the view. After all I've been known to ride in full squid attire on occasion and it's damn fun. But, if I've got a passenger I kind of feel responsible for there well being. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Alex Milenkovic wrote: > > > > ...and don't forget the girl in the bikini on back, that's a must every time!! > > > > I think of all the squidly offenses, this is the one that bothers > me the least, and I have to admit I stare at the nicely built girls > who wear bikinis on bikes.. > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 10:06:48 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA16562 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <28398T0W>; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:06:18 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F538627@DADC040> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Hugh A. Caldwell'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Wow! Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:05:21 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Yeah, god I never thought about happy hour. Maybe I just need some new Tevas? The other thing I forgot to mention that I like riding with out a T-shirt. This way I can ride AND get that killer tan at the same time. Who needs the beach? Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Hugh A. Caldwell [mailto:Turnip@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 9:56 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Wow! Actually I find my Tevas quite comfy to ride in. The strap on the front acts as a pad when you're up shifting. Also, if you ride barefoot the bottom of your feet get all spooged up with road gunk and they won't let you into happy hour without shoes. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM wrote: > Tevas? They just get in the way of shifting, try bare feet next time and 8 > shots of tequila. I fund that makes for a better ride. The last thing is > to make sure you have plenty of hair gel when riding without a helmet. That > way you will still look pretty when you get where you are going. > > Glenn > > > > >I was riding on 395 tonight, and sure got cold in my shorts and Tevas. At > >one point, I was riding along with my feet tucked up on the rear seat when > >a bug hit me in the eye. I guess if I had been wearing a helmet or > >sunglasses, it wouldn't have hurt so bad. But they get in the way when I'm > >doing stoppies and wheelies. > > >Oh - and my friends taught me to ride. They said the MSF course is > >useless. And it really is true that a slight beer buzz makes you more > >relaxed while you ride! > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 10:10:27 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA16585 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990414141219.22937.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web301.yahoomail.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:12:19 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:12:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: RE: Wow! To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > ...and don't forget the girl in the bikini on back, that's a must every > > time!! > I think of all the squidly offenses, this is the one that bothers > me the least, and I have to admit I stare at the nicely built girls > who wear bikinis on bikes.. You have a point, but I've seen the result of this at the end of a long ride (saw the same bike/people in the morning and afternoon). The poor gal had a sunburn that probably would glow in the dark. Might have been part windburn too. I'll bet she was wearing loose fitting clothes for a week. Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 10:36:02 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay7.UU.NET (relay7.UU.NET [192.48.96.17]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA17119 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:36:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay7.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgkxm22090 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:35:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256753.00506E6B ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:38:31 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256753.00506D4E.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:28:07 -0400 Subject: RE: Wow! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline That's why it offends me, actually. One night I was riding behind this guy who was having fun "racing" me - whatever - with a girl on the back in shorts. She looked absolutely terrified and was holding onto him very tightly all scrunched up in a shaking ball. I couldn't help feeling bad for her and thinking the guy must be a real squid to take chances with an obviously terried girl on the back. I guess it made him feel like a "man" (?) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Hugh A. Caldwell" on 04/14/99 10:02:55 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: RE: Wow! Hmmmm, this is the actually the only squidly behaviour that actually offends me and it's not because I object to the view. After all I've been known to ride in full squid attire on occasion and it's damn fun. But, if I've got a passenger I kind of feel responsible for there well being. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Alex Milenkovic wrote: From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 10:47:55 1999 Return-Path: redbelly@XXXXXX Received: from helix.nih.gov (helix.nih.gov [128.231.2.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA17325 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:47:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from boo.net ([156.40.49.10]) by helix.nih.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA1408515; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3714AA70.46E0FD17@boo.net> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:47:12 -0400 From: Jay Goddard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , mrcengr@XXXXXX, cbxturbo@XXXXXX, bgsbny@XXXXXX Subject: Wanted: Nice Curves Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will be taking a few days this summer to ride the curves in West Va.. Please send me your advice on roads, motels and places to eat. If you know of any web pages that might help me that would be cool too. Thanks!! Jay From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 10:50:41 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA17424 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:50:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 14 Apr 1999 14:50:39 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA21201 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:50:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Wow! In-Reply-To: <85256753.00506D4E.00@172.16.2.37> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > > > That's why it offends me, actually. > One night I was riding behind this guy who was having fun "racing" me - whatever > - with a girl on the back in shorts. She looked absolutely terrified and was > holding onto him very tightly all scrunched up in a shaking ball. I couldn't > help feeling bad for her and thinking the guy must be a real squid to take > chances with an obviously terried girl on the back. I guess it made him feel > like a "man" (?) > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > > Hmmmm, this is the actually the only squidly behaviour > that actually offends me and it's not because I object to the > view. After all I've been known to ride in full squid attire > on occasion and it's damn fun. But, if I've got a passenger > I kind of feel responsible for there well being. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Well, I dont think its a safe or good thing by ANY stretch of the imagination! Its unsafe, the passengers hate it, etc, etc. I always get nervous, and have horrible visions of the poor passenger sliding across the pavement, and having the joy of full body bandages for a month. I suppose what I was trying to say was that of all the squidly offenses, this one bothers me just like all the others, but its always nice to see a nice girl in a nice bikini. Regardless of where she is. Alex. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 11:00:08 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA17546 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:00:06 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA24364; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:59:30 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma017204; Wed, 14 Apr 99 10:48:49 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FA6005G3P6GW8@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256753.00512963 ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:46:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:40:31 -0400 Subject: Rides This Weekend? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256753.00506283.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Is anyone planning a group ride in Virginia this weekend? By the way, is anyone else noticing the absolute cloud of insects around these days? I'm constantly cleaning off my visor of bug guts. Chris Weaver VTR1000 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 11:38:32 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA18223 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 471; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:38:15 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990414113555.01a87960@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:38:11 -0400 To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Rides This Weekend? In-Reply-To: <85256753.00506283.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:40 AM 4/14/99 , christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: >By the way, is anyone else noticing the absolute cloud of insects around >these days? I'm constantly cleaning off my visor of bug guts. Chris - Pop your visor and ride with your mouth open. Excellent source of protien. I am up for a group ride this weekend. Anyone on the list want to let me run around the block on their new VFR or F4? I'm looking around for a new bike for this winter or next spring. Hate not being able to test ride. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Suing the gun companies for wrongful death is akin to suing Indy car sponsers for 'making' you speed" From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 12:47:13 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA19349 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA17849; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:43:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv12-25.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.153) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma017625; Wed Apr 14 11:42:06 1999 Message-ID: <004a01be8695$a2bd0be0$995e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: , References: <85256753.00506283.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Subject: Re: Rides This Weekend? Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:40:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Just an FYI, there are a bunch of open houses this weekend, my favorite = though is the Open house at Winchester 'Indian' ( No Indians duh!!!!) ;) = but they do have Triumphs, Moto-Guzzis, Polaris Victory and a s-load of = trade ins and consignment bikes. Plus its free Hot Dogs and a coke, = after the ride out there.. Yeah Teah, always thinking with the = stomach. Anyway I can provide directions if you need them, but I think = by now, just about everyone knows where they are, justa few minutes from = Summit Point or N of Winchester. I had hoped to go, but unfortunately = have to deal with the In-laws this weekend..... Ugh.....They had what = was at one time a beautiful Guzzi LeMans 1000 that looks like its spent = the past 5 years sitting in the ocean, whata shame they were such = beautiful bikes. But its going to need a frame up which is = unfortunately beyond my abilities. Anyway, I am just back from a = beautiful ride out here in the Shenandoah Valley, and halfway through an = oil change. Later ...... Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 10:40 AM Subject: Rides This Weekend? > Is anyone planning a group ride in Virginia this weekend? >=20 > By the way, is anyone else noticing the absolute cloud of insects = around > these days? I'm constantly cleaning off my visor of bug guts. >=20 > Chris Weaver > VTR1000 >=20 >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 12:50:24 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA19440 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A749334000E6; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:50:17 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990414124112.01315c80@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:43:44 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Wow! In-Reply-To: <85256753.00506D4E.00@172.16.2.37> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Must have been a newbie -- an experienced passenger would know how to "convince" the driver to pull over. A friend convinced a driver not to wheelie by wrapping his arms around the driver, then taking his fist and driving it straight down. The driver understood that. sigh, Chris Norloff At 10:28 AM 4/14/99 , Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: >That's why it offends me, actually. >One night I was riding behind this guy who was having fun "racing" me - >whatever >- with a girl on the back in shorts. She looked absolutely terrified and was >holding onto him very tightly all scrunched up in a shaking ball. I couldn't >help feeling bad for her and thinking the guy must be a real squid to take >chances with an obviously terried girl on the back. I guess it made him feel >like a "man" (?) > >- Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > > > >"Hugh A. Caldwell" on 04/14/99 10:02:55 AM > > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) >Subject: RE: Wow! > > > > > > > Hmmmm, this is the actually the only squidly behaviour >that actually offends me and it's not because I object to the >view. After all I've been known to ride in full squid attire >on occasion and it's damn fun. But, if I've got a passenger >I kind of feel responsible for there well being. > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI >---------------------------------------------------------------- > >On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Alex Milenkovic wrote: > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 13:23:01 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA19947 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:12:58 EST Message-Id: <199904141312.AA9175398@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Biker pic X-Mailer: Hey everyone! In the USA Today paper, today, April 14, on page 17A, there's a picture of the morning commute through Springfield. Off in the distance, in the HOV lanes, there's a biker with a white helmet, and a John Deere green and yellow paint scheme! Anybody wanna guess who it could be? :) The article deals with daily traffic jams. Little did USA Today know that they got a picture of the solution, right before there eyes on two wheels. I thought it was priceless. Dale (two wheels are better then four...) -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - Her's. Mine. Ours. :) 1987 Suzuki Savage - Unretired. 1998 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer - RIP :( -- From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 13:43:38 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA20288 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18844 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:43:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Traffic lawyers Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am in search of a decent lawyer with a traffic law focus and a Maryland license. Any help in locating someone good would be appreciated. In spite of feeling like a poor guy it turns out that I'm excessively wealthy for a public defender... Thanks, Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 14:24:00 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA20989 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:23:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10XUIg-0001tx-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:22:14 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA09067 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:24:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001001be86a4$b7d80a20$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Dr. Gridlock Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:29:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Occationally I read Dr. Gridlock's articles on WashingtonPost.com (his column deals with traffic issues) and today I found some good PR for us motorcyclists. We should send him an email thanking him for bringing attention to the advantages of riding motorcycles and rider training. His email address: drgridlock@XXXXXX The article link: http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-04/14/012l-041499-idx.html The articles: ------------------------------- A Message to Motorcyclists By Ron Shaffer Wednesday, April 14, 1999; Page V01 Dear Dr. Gridlock: Recently, I was approached by the Metro station manager at the Franconia-Springfield Station (Blue Line). He asked where I had parked my motorcycle (I was carrying my helmet). I told him the garage, of course. He led me to the window and pointed out a long row of parking spaces set aside for motorcycles. These spaces are free. I have used this station for nine months and never saw those spaces. Why doesn't Metro publicize this? I doubt a few more motorcyclists would help alleviate traffic, but cyclists might be interested in knowing about this. TOM ADKINS Woodbridge Metro has free motorcycle parking spots at its 41 parking facilities. They are near the Kiss and Ride areas, according to spokeswoman Cheryl Y. Johnson. Why doesn't Metro mark them better? Good question, considering we ought to be encouraging people to get out of their cars by all means. From the consumer side, motorcycle riders not only get free Metro parking and have cheaper operating costs than for cars, they also can use the HOV (car-pool) lanes without restriction. Lessons in Motorcycling Dear Dr. Gridlock: I am interested in learning how to drive a motorcycle. Do you know of any companies that offer lessons? Any assistance you can offer would be greatly appreciated. ROB VEJDANI Fairfax The Motorcycle Safety Foundation offers beginner classes in Maryland and Virginia. The courses are for 20 hours, usually during a long weekend. Motorcycles and all gear are provided. The cost is $50 to $100. In Virginia, register through the Northern Virginia Community College campuses in Alexandria, 703-845-6240, or Loudoun County, 703-450-2551. For the Maryland courses, call 1-800-638-1722 within Maryland. From outside Maryland, call 410-508-2436. Motorcycle operators in Virginia, Maryland and the District must pass a skills test and a written test to be licensed. The Doctor welcomes any other suggestions for motorcycle training. ------------------------------ Pretty Cool! Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 14:41:33 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f241.hotmail.com [209.185.130.206]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA21230 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 33941 invoked by uid 0); 14 Apr 1999 18:40:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990414184059.33940.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:40:59 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.22] From: "Leon Begeman" To: horkster@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Biker pic Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:40:59 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Cool. It said Springfield, but it's actually in front of the Landmark Mall. I guess if you're not local, that wouldn't make much of a difference. Leon. >From: "Horkster" >Reply-To: >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Biker pic >Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:12:58 EST > >Hey everyone! > >In the USA Today paper, today, April 14, on page 17A, there's >a picture of the morning commute through Springfield. Off in >the distance, in the HOV lanes, there's a biker with a white >helmet, and a John Deere green and yellow paint scheme! Anybody >wanna guess who it could be? :) > >The article deals with daily traffic jams. Little did USA Today >know that they got a picture of the solution, right before there >eyes on two wheels. I thought it was priceless. > >Dale (two wheels are better then four...) > >-- >Dale Horstman (the Horkster) >horkster@XXXXXX >Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > >1998 Kawasaki Concours - Her's. Mine. Ours. :) >1987 Suzuki Savage - Unretired. >1998 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer - RIP :( >-- > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 15:13:48 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21812 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <28ZASR93>; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:13:26 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F538659@DADC040> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: Dr. Gridlock Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:13:26 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Hmmm, did you see the part about cheaper operating costs? I guess as far as parking is concerned and MPG they are cheaper but that's about it. Glenn - Occationally I read Dr. Gridlock's articles on WashingtonPost.com (his column deals with traffic issues) and today I found some good PR for us motorcyclists. We should send him an email thanking him for bringing attention to the advantages of riding motorcycles and rider training. His email address: drgridlock@XXXXXX The article link: http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-04/14/012l-041499-idx.html The articles: ------------------------------- A Message to Motorcyclists By Ron Shaffer Wednesday, April 14, 1999; Page V01 Dear Dr. Gridlock: Recently, I was approached by the Metro station manager at the Franconia-Springfield Station (Blue Line). He asked where I had parked my motorcycle (I was carrying my helmet). I told him the garage, of course. He led me to the window and pointed out a long row of parking spaces set aside for motorcycles. These spaces are free. I have used this station for nine months and never saw those spaces. Why doesn't Metro publicize this? I doubt a few more motorcyclists would help alleviate traffic, but cyclists might be interested in knowing about this. TOM ADKINS Woodbridge Metro has free motorcycle parking spots at its 41 parking facilities. They are near the Kiss and Ride areas, according to spokeswoman Cheryl Y. Johnson. Why doesn't Metro mark them better? Good question, considering we ought to be encouraging people to get out of their cars by all means. From the consumer side, motorcycle riders not only get free Metro parking and have cheaper operating costs than for cars, they also can use the HOV (car-pool) lanes without restriction. Lessons in Motorcycling Dear Dr. Gridlock: I am interested in learning how to drive a motorcycle. Do you know of any companies that offer lessons? Any assistance you can offer would be greatly appreciated. ROB VEJDANI Fairfax The Motorcycle Safety Foundation offers beginner classes in Maryland and Virginia. The courses are for 20 hours, usually during a long weekend. Motorcycles and all gear are provided. The cost is $50 to $100. In Virginia, register through the Northern Virginia Community College campuses in Alexandria, 703-845-6240, or Loudoun County, 703-450-2551. For the Maryland courses, call 1-800-638-1722 within Maryland. From outside Maryland, call 410-508-2436. Motorcycle operators in Virginia, Maryland and the District must pass a skills test and a written test to be licensed. The Doctor welcomes any other suggestions for motorcycle training. ------------------------------ Pretty Cool! Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 15:16:05 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21869 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:16:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A970353400E6; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:16:00 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990414150838.01321f10@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:10:42 -0400 To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Dr. Gridlock In-Reply-To: <001001be86a4$b7d80a20$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:29 PM 4/14/99 , David Cross wrote: >Occationally I read Dr. Gridlock's articles on WashingtonPost.com (his >column deals with traffic issues) and today I found some good PR for us >motorcyclists. Fantastic! The ol' doc must have lightened up, 'cause I remember a bikers-are-scum attitude of his from only a couple years ago. >A Message to Motorcyclists > By Ron Shaffer > Wednesday, April 14, 1999; Page V01 Dr. Gridlock comes out Thursday in the printed edition ... does page "V01" indicate "virtual" or online edition? thanks, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 15:26:37 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22004 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990414192744.13336.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web308.yahoomail.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:27:44 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:27:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Dr. Gridlock To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Free bike parking is pretty cool, but since its location really sucks! At West Falls Church, the parking is alongside the Park and Ride blocked from parking lot view by a row of bushes.... Faaaaar too easy for theft or vandalism to occur. I'd much rather see the parking in a corner of the lot with controlled entry... at least the gate attendant could see the bikes if some fishy behavior appeared to be going on...now would they do anything??? that's another story... Nice article though... Collin (glad I have $6/month garage parking right next to the guard shack where all of em know me!) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 16:35:06 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23215 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D77M7ZPJ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:28:35 EDT To: dave@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Dr. Gridlock Message-ID: <19990413.010418.4863.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <001001be86a4$b7d80a20$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-5,7-9 From: Bikes R Us Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:28:35 EDT Done and done. You're right. This type of common-sense thinking requires encouragement! JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:29:22 -0400 "David Cross" writes: >We should send him an email thanking him for bringing attention to the >advantages of riding motorcycles and rider training. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 16:53:43 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23597 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id UAA31248; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:52:56 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990414205149.SFGS14456@toddnt>; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:51:49 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "David Cross" , "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: RE: Dr. Gridlock Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:49:45 -0400 Message-ID: <001d01be86b8$541b43d0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <001001be86a4$b7d80a20$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> Importance: Normal If you can find the email address on that crazy site to send a letter, I will. This is very encouraging. T > -----Original Message----- > From: David Cross [mailto:dave@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 2:29 PM > To: DC-Cycles Mailing List > Subject: Dr. Gridlock > > > Occationally I read Dr. Gridlock's articles on WashingtonPost.com (his > column deals with traffic issues) and today I found some good PR for us > motorcyclists. > > We should send him an email thanking him for bringing attention to the > advantages of riding motorcycles and rider training. > > His email address: drgridlock@XXXXXX > > The article link: > http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-04/14/012l-041499-idx.html > > The articles: > ------------------------------- > A Message to Motorcyclists > > By Ron Shaffer > > Wednesday, April 14, 1999; Page V01 > > Dear Dr. Gridlock: > > Recently, I was approached by the Metro station > manager at > the > Franconia-Springfield Station (Blue Line). He > asked where > I had parked > my motorcycle (I was carrying my helmet). I told him the > garage, of > course. He led me to the window and pointed out > a long row > of parking > spaces set aside for motorcycles. These spaces are free. > > I have used this station for nine months and never saw > those spaces. Why > doesn't Metro publicize this? I doubt a few more > motorcyclists would help > alleviate traffic, but cyclists might be interested in > knowing about this. > > TOM ADKINS > > Woodbridge > > Metro has free motorcycle parking spots at its > 41 parking > facilities. They > are near the Kiss and Ride areas, according to > spokeswoman > Cheryl Y. > Johnson. > > Why doesn't Metro mark them better? Good question, > considering we > ought to be encouraging people to get out of > their cars by > all means. From > the consumer side, motorcycle riders not only get free > Metro parking and > have cheaper operating costs than for cars, > they also can > use the HOV > (car-pool) lanes without restriction. > > Lessons in Motorcycling > > Dear Dr. Gridlock: > > I am interested in learning how to drive a > motorcycle. Do > you know of any > companies that offer lessons? Any assistance > you can offer > would be > greatly appreciated. > > ROB VEJDANI > > Fairfax > > The Motorcycle Safety Foundation offers beginner classes > in Maryland > and Virginia. The courses are for 20 hours, > usually during > a long weekend. > Motorcycles and all gear are provided. The cost > is $50 to > $100. > > In Virginia, register through the Northern Virginia > Community College > campuses in Alexandria, 703-845-6240, or Loudoun County, > 703-450-2551. > > For the Maryland courses, call 1-800-638-1722 within > Maryland. From > outside Maryland, call 410-508-2436. > > Motorcycle operators in Virginia, Maryland and the > District must pass a > skills test and a written test to be licensed. > > The Doctor welcomes any other suggestions for motorcycle > training. > > ------------------------------ > > Pretty Cool! > > Dave Cross > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 17:19:59 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA24047 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:19:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990414212154.29894.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.113.181] by web301.yahoomail.com; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:21:54 PDT Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:21:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: RE: Dr. Gridlock To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hmmm... did you miss the line below Todd?? :) Time for the glasses old man!! he hehe --- Todd Peer wrote: > If you can find the email address on that crazy site to send a > letter, I > will. > > This is very encouraging. > > T > > > -----Original Message----- > > > His email address: drgridlock@XXXXXX > > > > The article link: > > > http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-04/14/012l-041499-idx.html _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 18:41:13 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA25395 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:41:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA24455; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:40:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv12-01.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.129) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma024179; Wed Apr 14 17:39:07 1999 Message-ID: <004601be86c7$82a64060$815e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "'dc'" , "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" References: Subject: Re: Rides This Weekend? Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:38:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Geesh, a thousand different ways, not sure whether you feel like = slabbing it, or a more leisurely pace, anyway from either Rt 270 or Rt70 = go west to Frederick. From Frederick you can either take Rt 340 to RT 7 = in Virginia then=20 West on RT 7 to Rt 11 or Rt 81. Go North to exit 321 hopewell Road in = Clearbrook Va. you cant miss the place from I 81, from Rt 11, Hopewell = Rd is on your left and you will see a restauraunt / gas station at the = road to Exit 321 onto Rt 81, From Rt 11 it is on you left. From 70 in = Frederick you could also just run all the way to I 81, then south on I81 = about 30 miles to Exit 321. =20 For a mo0re rustic ride, from Summit Point WV, take WV County Route 2 = which becomes Rt 761 in Virginia which then runs to Rt 11, where you = would make a right and go North just a mile or so, and Winchester Indian = would be on the left again at Exit 321 to I 81. Finally a real backwoods ride is from Rt 7 outside Winchester , go North = on SR 660, at T, make left onto SR 664, that will again run into Rt 11 = at Stephenson . Again make right ont Rt 11, and Winch. Indian will be = on left....=20 Hope this helps... Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO To: 'Ken' Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 2:57 PM Subject: RE: Rides This Weekend? > Could you pass along directions in my direction? I'm at Fort Meade, = so I'll > be coming in off Highway 32, I think. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Mitch Holmes > 1986 Honda Magna VF700C > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 10:40 AM > Subject: Rides This Weekend? >=20 >=20 > > Is anyone planning a group ride in Virginia this weekend? > >=20 > > By the way, is anyone else noticing the absolute cloud of > insects around > > these days? 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--Boundary_(ID_qiTBtk02nNBQ0qktU4i3RA)-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 21:25:41 1999 Return-Path: kamuelle@XXXXXX Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (root@XXXXXX [198.82.160.250]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28094 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:25:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21929 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:25:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kamuelle (kamuelle.campus.vt.edu [198.82.109.118]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA13287 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:25:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990414212959.008f5100@mail.vt.edu> X-Sender: kamuelle@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:29:59 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Karl Mueller Subject: Re: Biker pic In-Reply-To: <199904141312.AA9175398@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Wow, our own Leon is in USA today.. I knew that green and yellow paint scheme had to have SOME use :) cheers, karl From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 23:15:36 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA29550 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:15:35 -0400 (EDT) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id qWHCa02489; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:13:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <90e3cb6e.2446b33c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:13:00 EDT Subject: Re: RE: Wow! To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Reply-To: McKeithen@XXXXXX I find the Teves Sandles too restrictive. I use shower flip flops From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 14 23:19:59 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA29572 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:19:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-52.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.52]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA15619 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:19:53 -0400 Message-ID: <0cb001be86ee$beae8780$e7a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Dr. Gridlock etc. (and lanesplitting article) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:18:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0CA5_01BE86CD.23BD9FC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0CA5_01BE86CD.23BD9FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable More people seem to be smiling on bikes as traffic solutions these days = -- a trend from overseas, no doubt (saw a story about selling scoots in = Supermarkets in England). And electrics are coming. =20 For now, lanesplitting as a solution to congestion is tempting -- did a = little article for Winding Road Motorcycle Times last issue (March/April = -- toward the back) about possibility of making it legal in the area. = Fodder for any others looking for supporting material. =20 Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> Can grease sides if necessary Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. ------=_NextPart_000_0CA5_01BE86CD.23BD9FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
More people seem to be smiling on bikes = as traffic=20 solutions these days -- a trend from overseas, no doubt (saw a story = about=20 selling scoots in Supermarkets in England).  And electrics are=20 coming. 
 
For now, lanesplitting as a solution to = congestion=20 is tempting -- did a little article for Winding Road Motorcycle Times = last issue=20 (March/April -- toward the back) about possibility of making it legal in = the=20 area.  Fodder for any others looking for supporting material.  =
 
Bill S. / DC
99 VN750 --> Can = grease sides if=20 necessary
Join the AMA.  Help protect my riding=20 fun.
------=_NextPart_000_0CA5_01BE86CD.23BD9FC0-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 06:42:54 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA07206 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 06:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 03:56:23 EST Message-Id: <199904150356.AA1179936@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Early BRPers X-Mailer: Hey All, There's a Mid-Atlantic Region COG (Concours Owners Group) ride scheduled for this Sunday to do Skyline Drive from Waynesboro to Front Royal. Since they'll be meeting for breakfast at RBJ's off of Rt. 250 (E. Main St.), just west of Rt. 340 in Waynesboro at 9:00~9:30, I've been giving thought to leaving at O'dark thirty, going to Front Royal first, and doing Skyline solo before breakfast. (You can never have too much fun on a road like that... :) So, my real question is: Anybody know how early one can get on to Skyline Drive in the morning? It should be a beautiful ride, both down and back. Anybody who wants to spend it with a bunch of old slow guys on Goldwing wannabees (yeah, right!) is welcome to join us. Dale -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - Her's. Mine. Ours. :) 1987 Suzuki Savage - Unretired. 1998 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer - RIP :( -- From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 07:51:31 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc014.hqda.pentagon.mil (dadc014.hqda.pentagon.mil [141.116.33.24]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08122 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:51:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc014.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <28Z9XGSJ>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:51:16 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F538663@DADC040> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'horkster@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Early BRPers Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:51:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dale, Skyline drive is open 24x7 unless weather makes the road to difficult to pass, then they close certain sections. That shouldn't be a problem this time of year. If you get there early enough you may not have to pat either. Anyhow, its really awesome up there at night when the moon isn't present. Glenn >So, my real question is: Anybody know how early one can get on to >Skyline Drive in the morning? It should be a beautiful ride, both >down and back. Anybody who wants to spend it with a bunch of old slow >guys on Goldwing wannabees (yeah, right!) is welcome to join us. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 08:09:33 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08336 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A6F5BB8015A; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:09:25 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990415073003.009fd650@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:30:30 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Road Rage by Judges Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This showed up in the News of the Weird-- The Judicial Temperament * In road-rage incidents in Rochester, N.Y., in February and Delaware, Ohio, in June, the alleged maniacs were judges. Rochester judge William Bristol, reportedly miffed that a confused driver had stopped in the middle of the road, was accused of pounding on her windshield "like a lunatic" and following her home so that he could tell police her address. In the Ohio incident, judge Michael Hoague was convicted of threatening a 24-year-old woman whose car he said he had observed being driven recklessly. According to the woman, Judge Hoague had tailgated her at high speeds while yelling profanities, and he later ordered her to his courtroom despite the fact that no charge had been filed against her. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 08:12:58 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08415 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:12:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id IAA05931 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE8719.44A18200@XXXXXX>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:23:40 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'DCC'" Subject: How to annoy the IRS (no moto content) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:23:39 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >., CPA >MSA Tax Auditor Range B > > > > HOW TO ANNOY THE IRS or the FTB > (Without Getting In Trouble!) > >1. Always put staples in the right hand corner. Go ahead and put them down >the whole right > side. The extractors who remove the mail from the envelopes have to >take out any staples on > the right side. > >2. Never arrange paperwork in the right order, or even facing the right >way. Put a few upside > down and backwards. That way they have to remove all your staples, >rearrange your paperwork > and re-staple it (on the left side). > >3. Line the bottom of your envelope with Elmer's glue and let it dry before >you put in you > forms, so that the automated opener doesn't open it and the extractor >has to open it by > hand. > >4. If you're very unfortunate and have to pay taxes, send two or three >party check. On top of > paying with a third party check, pay one of the dollars you owe in cash. >When an extractor > receives cash, no matter how small an amount, he has to take it to a >special desk and fill > out of few nasty forms. > >5. Write a little letter of appreciation. Any letter received has to be >read and stamped > regardless of what it is or what it's on. > >6. Write your letter on something misshapen and unconventional. Like on >the back of a > supermarket sack. > >7. When you mail it, mail it in a big envelope (even if its just a single >EZ form). Big > envelopes have to be torn and sorted differently than regular business >size ones. An added > bonus to the big envelope is that they take priority over other mail, so >the workers can > hurry up and deal with your mess. > >8. If you send two checks, they'll have to staple your unsightly envelope >to your half > destroyed form. > >9. Always put extra paper clips on your forms. Any foreign fasteners or >the like have to be > removed and put away. > >10. Sign your name in ink on every page. Any signature has to be verified >and then date > stamped. > > These are just a few of the fun and exciting things you can do with the >IRS. These methods > are ONLY recommended when you OWE money. > > If they owe you money, being nice helps. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 08:30:44 1999 Return-Path: DGlassJr@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08718 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:30:42 -0400 (EDT) From: DGlassJr@XXXXXX Received: from DGlassJr@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id 2KCUa26459 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:29:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:29:38 EDT Subject: Re: Dr. Gridlock etc. (and lanesplitting article) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: DGlassJr@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/14/99 11:28:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mobacc@XXXXXX writes: << More people seem to be smiling on bikes as traffic solutions these days -- a trend from overseas, no doubt (saw a story about selling scoots in Supermarkets in England). And electrics are coming. For now, lanesplitting as a solution to congestion is tempting -- did a little article for Winding Road Motorcycle Times last issue (March/April -- toward the back) about possibility of making it legal in the area. Fodder for any others looking for supporting material. Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> Can grease sides if necessary >> Bill, although I would love to see it happen, don't count on it. In their infinite wisdom Virginia does not even allow two bikes to occupy the same lane unless they are in a parade! Chances of making lane splitting legal would have to rest with the feds. The only reason Va even lets bikes use HOV is because they were going to lose road money if they didn't. Don 98 VTR 1000 From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 08:34:22 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08744 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2TXA35CK>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 05:37:40 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC8CF@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Early BRPers Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 05:30:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Dale, Just a reminder: When riding on roads like that in the early morning hours, be ESPECIALLY alert for wildlife. Deer make lousy fairing decorations! Have fun! I love to ride Skyline Drive. Wish I could join you... Perry > -----Original Message----- > From: Horkster [SMTP:horkster@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 4:56 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Early BRPers > > Hey All, > > There's a Mid-Atlantic Region COG (Concours Owners Group) ride > scheduled for this Sunday to do Skyline Drive from Waynesboro > to Front Royal. Since they'll be meeting for breakfast at RBJ's > off of Rt. 250 (E. Main St.), just west of Rt. 340 in Waynesboro > at 9:00~9:30, I've been giving thought to leaving at O'dark thirty, > going to Front Royal first, and doing Skyline solo before breakfast. > (You can never have too much fun on a road like that... :) > > > So, my real question is: Anybody know how early one can get on to > Skyline Drive in the morning? It should be a beautiful ride, both > down and back. Anybody who wants to spend it with a bunch of old slow > guys on Goldwing wannabees (yeah, right!) is welcome to join us. > > Dale > > > > > -- > Dale Horstman (the Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > 1998 Kawasaki Concours - Her's. Mine. Ours. :) > 1987 Suzuki Savage - Unretired. > 1998 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer - RIP :( > -- From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 09:00:06 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09158 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990415130117.9896.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web308.yahoomail.com; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 06:01:17 PDT Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 06:01:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Dr. Gridlock etc. (and lanesplitting article) To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- DGlassJr@XXXXXX wrote: > In a message dated 4/14/99 11:28:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > mobacc@XXXXXX writes: > > Bill, although I would love to see it happen, don't count on it. In their > infinite wisdom Virginia does not even allow two bikes to occupy the same > lane unless they are in a parade! I wonder if this applies to motorcycle police. I was behind two of them on I-66 yesterday, and they were riding in the same lane. Eerily enough they were going to the same place I was (Fairfax INOVA) so it was almost like I had an escort. :-) Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 09:19:54 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09365 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:19:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id JAA11833 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE8722.4E7E2400@XXXXXX>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:28:22 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'DCC'" Subject: Free fridge (again, no moto content) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:28:22 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have a fridge that came with the house when we bought it about a year ago. 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I set up a lot of security on this web-page) From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 10:14:54 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10181 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA21443 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:11:01 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990415141358.FCJI20027@toddnt> for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:13:58 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: FW: For Sale Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:11:41 -0400 Message-ID: <001301be8749$e24975a0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Anyone? Sounds like a pretty decent deal. > -----Original Message----- > > http://users.apex2000.net/rbowen/For%20Sale.html > > '98 VTR1000 for sale. $6200.00, 8000 miles. > > Ronnie........... > rbowen@XXXXXX > http://users.apex2000.net/rbowen > > Good times are not just around the corner, > the good times are the corner! > " Rectus Non Bustus!" > Remember, If you have a "Bell of Brass", you won't fall down > and hurt your........ ( Hint, Hint! It rhymes with Brass!) > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 10:18:36 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA10238 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:18:19 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA14429; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:18:51 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa14292; Thu, 15 Apr 99 09:38:52 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FA800H4RGMOTR@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256754.004ACDD2 ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:37:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:29:31 -0400 Subject: Re: Early BRPers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256754.004B60F8.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Does anyone know what the longest stretch of the BRP is without a gas stop? I'd like to ride the whole thing this summer, but my bike only gets about 100 miles before the gas light starts blinking. Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 10:26:37 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10339 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:26:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA26691; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:22:00 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990415142521.FESD20027@toddnt>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:25:21 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Louis F. Caplan" , "DC-Cycles" Subject: RE: Dr. Gridlock etc. (and lanesplitting article) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:23:04 -0400 Message-ID: <001701be874b$797106e0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <19990415130117.9896.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal > > > > Bill, although I would love to see it happen, don't count on > it. In their > > infinite wisdom Virginia does not even allow two bikes to > occupy the same > > lane unless they are in a parade! > > I wonder if this applies to motorcycle police. I was behind two > of them on > I-66 yesterday, and they were riding in the same lane. Eerily > enough they were > going to the same place I was (Fairfax INOVA) so it was almost > like I had an > escort. :-) > > Louis It does not apply to the police. But then the HOV rules don't apply to the police from different states/districts when they drive into work. Dontcha love hypocrisy. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 10:34:02 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10507 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 434; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:33:54 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990415103336.012dd2a0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:33:52 -0400 To: "Todd Peer" , "DC-Cycles" From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: FW: For Sale In-Reply-To: <001301be8749$e24975a0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sounds great - too bad he is in Texas! At 10:11 AM 4/15/99 , Todd Peer wrote: >Anyone? Sounds like a pretty decent deal. > >> -----Original Message----- >> >> http://users.apex2000.net/rbowen/For%20Sale.html >> >> '98 VTR1000 for sale. $6200.00, 8000 miles. >> >> Ronnie........... >> rbowen@XXXXXX >> http://users.apex2000.net/rbowen >> >> Good times are not just around the corner, >> the good times are the corner! >> " Rectus Non Bustus!" >> Remember, If you have a "Bell of Brass", you won't fall down >> and hurt your........ ( Hint, Hint! It rhymes with Brass!) >> >> ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Suing the gun companies for wrongful death is akin to suing Indy car sponsers for 'making' you speed" From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 10:37:45 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from send501.yahoomail.com (web505.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.72]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA10602 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990415143944.14776.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web505.yahoomail.com; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:39:44 PDT Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:39:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Re: Early BRPers To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii RE: VTR range Chris, the part of the BRP that I've done (here to N.C. with DC-Cycle listers) seemed to have gas stations at reasonable distances. To feel secure, though, you could do the same as a Superhawk rider that Todd, Linda and I met out West (where the gas stations tend to be far apart). He had a framework of PVC pipe on his passenger seat that allowed him to carry plastic fuel bottles on either side of his tailpack. Sean Sullivan --- christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > Does anyone know what the longest stretch of the BRP > is without a gas stop? > I'd like to ride the whole thing this summer, but my > bike only gets about > 100 miles before the gas light starts blinking. > > Chris Weaver > 98 VTR 1000 > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 10:38:10 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10605 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <29D3JD36>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:36:17 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Cheap Dual Purpose bike anyone? Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:36:14 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Ok.. I'm going to get rid of the XT250.. anyone interested? I'll send you a picture if you haven't seen the bike. I'm looking for about $400 (cheaper than what I paid for it a year ago.. and I've put tires, fluids, and sprockets on this thing.. not to mention my time to get it running). Please reply directly.. Brian McCoy From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 10:44:19 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from ckgppxy1.proxy.att.com (ckgppxy1.att.com [12.20.58.148]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10717 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:44:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckgppxy1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id KAA23165 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE872E.6C58B1F0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:55:06 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'garicao@XXXXXX'" , "'DCC'" Subject: Brit bike get-together tonight Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:55:05 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tonight in Purcellville, VA there is an informal gathering of Brit bike enthusiasts. This gathering happens every other Thursday. The *official* starting time is 7:00 pm, but people start to show up anywhere from 6:30 on. Riding a bike there isn't mandatory but most seem to. Directions: Rt 7 west from Leesburg ~ 10 miles to Purcellville, left from exit towards town, right at flashing light into town, straight through 1st (& only) traffic light into town. At flashing light in the middle of town the White Palace is to your right front. Bikes should be parked somewhere in the vicinity. Bikes that have been seen there include (but are not limited to) Enfields (both Royal and otherwise), BSA's, (old and new) Triumphs, Dunstall (and other) Nortons, Guzzis, HD's, a Vincent, (old and new) BMW's, Buels, and many more. Rich From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 10:46:38 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10782 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA30827; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:46:24 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990415144604.FIQF20027@toddnt>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:46:04 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Mike Troutman" , "DC-Cycles" Subject: RE: FW: For Sale Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:43:47 -0400 Message-ID: <001801be874e$5e474340$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <4.1.19990415103336.012dd2a0@mail.wheatintl.com> Importance: Normal So what? Aside from the culture. :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Troutman [mailto:mike@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 10:34 AM > To: Todd Peer; DC-Cycles > Subject: Re: FW: For Sale > > > Sounds great - too bad he is in Texas! > > At 10:11 AM 4/15/99 , Todd Peer wrote: > >Anyone? Sounds like a pretty decent deal. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> > >> http://users.apex2000.net/rbowen/For%20Sale.html > >> > >> '98 VTR1000 for sale. $6200.00, 8000 miles. > >> > >> Ronnie........... > >> rbowen@XXXXXX > >> http://users.apex2000.net/rbowen > >> > >> Good times are not just around the corner, > >> the good times are the corner! > >> " Rectus Non Bustus!" > >> Remember, If you have a "Bell of Brass", you won't fall down > >> and hurt your........ ( Hint, Hint! It rhymes with Brass!) > >> > >> > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org > > "Suing the gun companies for wrongful death is akin > to suing Indy car sponsers for 'making' you speed" > From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 10:50:35 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10871 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.35]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.7) with SMTP id ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:36:13 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: Rides This Weekend? Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:37:48 -0400 Message-ID: <005501be874d$885bc620$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <85256753.00506283.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I'll be doing a group ride this weekend in Lynchburg. On a Nighthawk 250 attached to a Velorex sidecar going around a parking lot. BTW, anybody know any good routes from Fredericksburg to Lynchburg? ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 11:07:47 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11153 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990415151439.17285.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web307.yahoomail.com; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:14:39 PDT Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:14:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: FW: For Sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If I had a spare $6200 lying around, I'd get it myself!! Of course, I'd always be willing to drive down to Texas and pick it up for anyone that's interested... Just pay for my gas and feed me!! Just so happens that I'll have a good chunk of May and June off from work too!! Road Trip!!! Collin --- Mike Troutman wrote: > Sounds great - too bad he is in Texas! > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 11:20:22 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11368 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:20:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA21909; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:19:10 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990415151943.FPXM20027@toddnt>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:19:43 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: RE: Early BRPers Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:17:25 -0400 Message-ID: <001a01be8753$117ea3a0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <85256754.004B60F8.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Importance: Normal There are numerous roads you can turn off of from the BRP (461 miles according to SA5). I'd advise that you take some of these side excursions as a matter of course anyway, since the roads leading up and over the mountain ranges tend to be at least as if not more exciting than the BRP itself (in terms of adrenelin fix :) Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX > [mailto:christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 9:30 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Early BRPers > > > Does anyone know what the longest stretch of the BRP is without a > gas stop? > I'd like to ride the whole thing this summer, but my bike only gets about > 100 miles before the gas light starts blinking. > > Chris Weaver > 98 VTR 1000 > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If > you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 11:26:40 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11439 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09819 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:26:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: YSR50 races In-Reply-To: <003901be8664$37a40420$0669accf@brn626> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Brian N wrote: > Has anyone else seen these guys race? I've got a couple of friends who do this. It's got to be the cheapest and easiest way to race... One of the 2 guys claims he has more fun at it than he ever did "real" racing. The other has since bought a 125GP and has started "real" racing... I've been tempted at times to pick up a YSR and do this myself. How about http://www.magpage.com/~cfaison/ysr.htm for a url... He's got links to other YSR stuff (including Calamari). Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 11:34:05 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11631 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id LAA22684; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:34:02 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id LAA19827; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:34:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Early BRPers In-Reply-To: <199904150356.AA1179936@tidalwave.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To the best of my knowledge you can enter the BRP at any time of day or night. It's been my experience that if you go in the middle of the night you don't have to pay to enter. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 11:39:22 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11731 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:39:20 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA19385; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:38:50 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma007653; Thu, 15 Apr 99 11:24:13 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FA800G3VLICAR@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:25:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256754.00547436 ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:22:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:16:05 -0400 Subject: Re: Early BRPers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256754.00552B38.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL To any and all interested in riding the BRP, there are road maps and other information at the following site: http://www.blueridgeparkway.org/directory.html Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 12:42:49 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12842 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28284 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:42:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10797 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:42:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 143 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:42:38 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990415124118.01958d00@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:42:37 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Worth posting occasionally - The Hurt Study Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Hurt Study Motorcycle Accident Cause Factors and Identification of Countermeasures Approximately three-fourths of these motorcycle accidents involved collision with another vehicle, which was most usually a passenger automobile. Approximately one-fourth of these motorcycle accidents were single vehicle accidents involving the motorcycle colliding with the roadway or some fixed object in the environment. Vehicle failure accounted for less than 3% of these motorcycle accidents, and most of those were single vehicle accidents where control was lost due to a puncture flat. In the single vehicle accidents, motorcycle rider error was present as the accident precipitating factor in about two-thirds of the cases, with the typical error being a slideout and fall due to overbraking or running wide on a curve due to excess speed or under-cornering. Roadway defects (pavement ridges, potholes, etc.) were the accident cause in 2% of the accidents; animal involvement was 1% of the accidents. In the multiple vehicle accidents, the driver of the other vehicle violated the motorcycle right-of-way and caused the accident in two-thirds of those accidents. The failure of motorists to detect and recognize motorcycles in traffic is the predominating cause of motorcycle accidents. The driver of the other vehicle involved in collision with the motorcycle did not see the motorcycle before the collision, or did not see the motorcycle until too late to avoid the collision. Deliberate hostile action by a motorist against a motorcycle rider is a rare accident cause. The most frequent accident configuration is the motorcycle proceeding straight then the automobile makes a left turn in front of the oncoming motorcycle. Intersections are the most likely place for the motorcycle accident, with the other vehicle violating the motorcycle right-of-way, and often violating traffic controls. Weather is not a factor in 98% of motorcycle accidents. Most motorcycle accidents involve a short trip associated with shopping, errands, friends, entertainment or recreation, and the accident is likely to happen in a very short time close to the trip origin. The view of the motorcycle or the other vehicle involved in the accident is limited by glare or obstructed by other vehicles in almost half of the multiple vehicle accidents. Conspicuity of the motorcycle is a critical factor in the multiple vehicle accidents, and accident involvement is significantly reduced by the use of motorcycle headlamps (on in daylight) and the wearing of high visibility yellow, orange or bright red jackets. Fuel system leaks and spills were present in 62% of the motorcycle accidents in the post-crash phase. This represents an undue hazard for fire. The median pre-crash speed was 29.8 mph, and the median crash speed was 21.5 mph, and the one-in-a-thousand crash speed is approximately 86 mph. The typical motorcycle pre-crash lines-of-sight to the traffic hazard portray no contribution of the limits of peripheral vision; more than three-fourths of all accident hazards are within 45deg of either side of straight ahead. Conspicuity of the motorcycle is most critical for the frontal surfaces of the motorcycle and rider. Vehicle defects related to accident causation are rare and likely to be due to deficient or defective maintenance. Motorcycle riders between the ages of 16 and 24 are significantly overrepresented in accidents; motorcycle riders between the ages of 30 and 50 are significantly underrepresented. Although the majority of the accident-involved motorcycle riders are male (96%), the female motorcycles riders are significantly overrepresented in the accident data. Craftsmen, laborers, and students comprise most of the accident-involved motorcycle riders. Professionals, sales workers, and craftsmen are underrepresented and laborers, students and unemployed are overrepresented in the accidents. Motorcycle riders with previous recent traffic citations and accidents are overrepresented in the accident data. The motorcycle riders involved in accidents are essentially without training; 92% were self-taught or learned from family or friends. Motorcycle rider training experience reduces accident involvement and is related to reduced injuries in the event of accidents. More than half of the accident-involved motorcycle riders had less than 5 months experience on the accident motorcycle, although the total street riding experience was almost 3 years. Motorcycle riders with dirt bike experience are significantly underrepresented in the accident data. Lack of attention to the driving task is a common factor for the motorcyclist in an accident. Almost half of the fatal accidents show alcohol involvement. Motorcycle riders in these accidents showed significant collision avoidance problems. Most riders would overbrake and skid the rear wheel, and underbrake the front wheel greatly reducing collision avoidance deceleration. The ability to countersteer and swerve was essentially absent. The typical motorcycle accident allows the motorcyclist just less than 2 seconds to complete all collision avoidance action. Passenger-carrying motorcycles are not overrepresented in the accident area. The driver of the other vehicles involved in collision with the motorcycle are not distinguished from other accident populations except that the ages of 20 to 29, and beyond 65 are overrepresented. Also, these drivers are generally unfamiliar with motorcycles. The large displacement motorcycles are underrepresented in accidents but they are associated with higher injury severity when involved in accidents. Any effect of motorcycle color on accident involvement is not determinable from these data, but is expected to be insignificant because the frontal surfaces are most often presented to the other vehicle involved in the collision. Motorcycles equipped with fairings and windshields are underrepresented in accidents, most likely because of the contribution to conspicuity and the association with more experienced and trained riders. Motorcycle riders in these accidents were significantly without motorcycle license, without any license, or with license revoked. Motorcycle modifications such as those associated with the semi-chopper or cafe racer are definitely overrepresented in accidents. The likelihood of injury is extremely high in these motorcycle accidents-98% of the multiple vehicle collisions and 96% of the single vehicle accidents resulted in some kind of injury to the motorcycle rider; 45% resulted in more than a minor injury. Half of the injuries to the somatic regions were to the ankle-foot, lower leg, knee, and thigh-upper leg. Crash bars are not an effective injury countermeasure; the reduction of injury to the ankle-foot is balanced by increase of injury to the thigh-upper leg, knee, and lower leg. The use of heavy boots, jacket, gloves, etc., is effective in preventing or reducing abrasions and lacerations, which are frequent but rarely severe injuries. Groin injuries were sustained by the motorcyclist in at least 13% of the accidents, which typified by multiple vehicle collision in frontal impact at higher than average speed. Injury severity increases with speed, alcohol involvement and motorcycle size. Seventy-three percent of the accident-involved motorcycle riders used no eye protection, and it is likely that the wind on the unprotected eyes contributed in impairment of vision which delayed hazard detection. Approximately 50% of the motorcycle riders in traffic were using safety helmets but only 40% of the accident-involved motorcycle riders were wearing helmets at the time of the accident. Voluntary safety helmet use by those accident-involved motorcycle riders was lowest for untrained, uneducated, young motorcycle riders on hot days and short trips. The most deadly injuries to the accident victims were injuries to the chest and head. The use of the safety helmet is the single critical factor in the prevention of reduction of head injury; the safety helmet which complies with FMVSS 218 is a significantly effective injury countermeasure. Safety helmet use caused no attenuation of critical traffic sounds, no limitation of precrash visual field, and no fatigue or loss of attention; no element of accident causation was related to helmet use. FMVSS 218 provides a high level of protection in traffic accidents, and needs modification only to increase coverage at the back of the head and demonstrate impact protection of the front of full facial coverage helmets, and insure all adult sizes for traffic use are covered by the standard. Helmeted riders and passengers showed significantly lower head and neck injury for all types of injury, at all levels of injury severity. The increased coverage of the full facial coverage helmet increases protection, and significantly reduces face injuries. There is not liability for neck injury by wearing a safety helmet; helmeted riders had less neck injuries than unhelmeted riders. Only four minor injuries were attributable to helmet use, and in each case the helmet prevented possible critical or fatal head injury. Sixty percent of the motorcyclists were not wearing safety helmets at the time of the accident. Of this group, 26% said they did not wear helmets because they were uncomfortable and inconvenient, and 53% simply had no expectation of accident involvement. Valid motorcycle exposure data can be obtained only from collection at the traffic site. Motor vehicle or driver license data presents information which is completely unrelated to actual use. Less than 10% of the motorcycle riders involved in these accidents had insurance of any kind to provide medical care or replace property. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 Fairing for sale - $50 Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 12:50:31 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from ckgppxy1.proxy.att.com (ckgppxy1.att.com [12.20.58.148]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12970 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckgppxy1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id MAA10287 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE873E.603990A0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:49:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'DCC'" Subject: RE: Free fridge (again, no moto content) Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:49:17 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK. The fridge is spoken for. Thanks for tolerating the non-motorcycle content. Rich > From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 13:06:33 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13248 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:06:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA14917; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:05:22 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990415170556.GNPZ20027@toddnt>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:05:56 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" , Subject: RE: Early BRPers Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:03:38 -0400 Message-ID: <002401be8761$e7b37d70$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal No Pay ever on the BRP. You're thinking of SkyLine Drive > -----Original Message----- > From: Hugh A. Caldwell [mailto:Turnip@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 11:34 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Early BRPers > > > > To the best of my knowledge you can enter the BRP at > any time of day or night. It's been my experience that if you > go in the middle of the night you don't have to pay to enter. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 13:41:14 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from ckgppxy1.proxy.att.com (ckgppxy1.att.com [12.20.58.148]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13851 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckgppxy1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id NAA27826 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:40:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE8745.756AA890@XXXXXX>; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:40:00 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'Morris Berman'" , "'DCC'" Subject: The fridge has been claimed. Long live the fridge. Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:39:57 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Morris wrote... About how big is it? Could I fit on a dual sport? How about in a goldwing? On a roof rack/trunk (of a Subaru Legacy)? On a trailer? Does it include a freezer? -Mb To which I reply... It would not fit upon a dual sport. Not on the seat. It is too short. Not on a 'Wing. Nor in a rack. I think you must be smoking crack. No Mercury or Subaru Will haul my fridge. That would not do. Glenn has claimed it; he will not share. You cannot take it anywhere. Thank you very much. Rich (taking a bow) > From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 13:53:21 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14159 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:53:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA29297 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:53:18 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA13723 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:53:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.9) id oHBMa21395; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:44:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:44:58 EDT Subject: Re: Worth posting occasionally - The Hurt Study To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX thanks for posting that.....good to know :D as for the below comment - I guess they're also timed for 105 & 140 mph as well ;D Marcy In a message dated 4/15/99 1:14:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: > Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also > timed for 70mph. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 13:57:53 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14277 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A87D61C0288; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:57:17 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990415134118.01346160@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:43:54 -0400 To: "George Howell" , From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Rides This Weekend? In-Reply-To: <005501be874d$885bc620$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> References: <85256753.00506283.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:37 AM 4/15/99 , George Howell wrote: >I'll be doing a group ride this weekend in Lynchburg. > >On a Nighthawk 250 attached to a Velorex sidecar going around a parking lot. That sounds like the Sidecar Safety Course. Let me know what you think of those rigs ... I'd like all the details you get. Are the Velorexes (Velori?) always mounted to the bikes, or are they removed when not being used? Also, be sure to talk up the Falls Church City Memorial Day parade. Cundiff Simmons, one of your instructors, is thinking about putting three rigs in the parade -- it'd be nice to have the rigs, and good promotion too! fly the chair with care, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 13:57:56 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14278 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:57:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A88161C0288; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:57:21 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990415134432.01340930@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:47:17 -0400 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Early BRPers In-Reply-To: <001a01be8753$117ea3a0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> References: <85256754.004B60F8.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:17 AM 4/15/99 , Todd Peer wrote: >There are numerous roads you can turn off of from the BRP (461 miles >according to SA5). I'd advise that you take some of these side excursions >as a matter of course anyway, since the roads leading up and over the >mountain ranges tend to be at least as if not more exciting than the BRP >itself (in terms of adrenelin fix :) >Todd I'll second that idea! My favorite is the road to the Z.B. Vance birthplace, in North Carolina, I think. Z. B. Vance is Zebulon B. Vance, famed in song and story (down there I guess). The road off the mountain was incredible. Coming back up I was really moving, engine winding, bike leaned over, touching down a peg now and then. I got a chance to look at my speedo on a straight stretch and guess how fast I was going? 30 ... miles .. per ... hour. That's quite a road! Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 17:12:56 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17893 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:12:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA02367 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:12:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23687 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id oQWZa27249; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:09:22 EDT Subject: Re: Worth posting occasionally - The Hurt Study To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/15/99 1:14:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: << Most riders would overbrake and skid the rear wheel, and underbrake the front wheel greatly reducing collision avoidance deceleration. >> I have said this for years and don't want to cause another flame war, but once one insists on using the rear brake, it is almost certain to be overused in a panic situation. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 17:39:50 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA18292 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:39:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA02863 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA24438 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (209-122-229-91.s599.tnt5.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.229.91]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id RAA29914; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <371658D8.5E8F@erols.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:23:36 -0400 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sylvia Lacy-Crow , Mike French , marda@XXXXXX, Leo and Carol <" BklynCarol"@aol.com>, "JEFF (and RUTH) Markham" , "Glenn M. Duffield" , Dan Peck/Jeanne Kozak , dc-cycles , Dennis Kreps Subject: [Fwd: FW: Politically correctness] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3F3D4F2B621" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3F3D4F2B621 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." --------------3F3D4F2B621 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mx06.erols.com ([207.172.3.248]) by mta3.mail.erols.net (InterMail v03.02.07.03 118-128) with ESMTP id <19990412162736.CASM6280@XXXXXX>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:27:36 -0400 Received: from aries.azstarnet.com (aries.azstarnet.com [169.197.53.27]) by mx06.erols.com (8.8.8-970530/8.8.5/MX-980323-gjp) with ESMTP id MAA25341; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by aries.azstarnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA08056; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:26:19 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:18:54 -0500 Resent-Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990412111854.009fc100@XXXXXX> Resent-From: Harvey Brydon Resent-To: don Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:26:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: *0^4Iw) To: bbq@XXXXXX Subject: FW: Politically correctness Reply-To: bbq@XXXXXX X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/51751 X-Loop: bbq@XXXXXX Precedence: list Resent-Sender: bbq-request@XXXXXX HOW TO SPEAK ABOUT WOMEN AND BE POLITICALLY CORRECT She is not a BABE or a CHICK - She is a BREASTED AMERICAN. She is not a BLEACHED BLONDE - She is PEROXIDE DEPENDENT. She is not a BAD COOK - She is MICROWAVE COMPATIBLE. She is not HALF NAKED - She is WARDROBE IMPAIRED. She does not wear TOO MUCH JEWELRY - She is METALLICALLY OVERBURDENED. She is not CONCEITED - She is INTIMATELY AWARE OF HER BEST QUALITIES. She does not want to be MARRIED - She wants to lock you in DOMESTIC INCARCERATION. She does not GAIN WEIGHT - She is a METABOLIC UNDERACHIEVER. She is not a SCREAMER or MOANER - She is VOCALLY APPRECIATIVE. She is not EASY - She is HORIZONTALLY ACCESSIBLE. She does not TEASE or FLIRT - She engages in ARTIFICIAL STIMULATION. She is not DUMB - She is a DETOUR OFF THE INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY. She is not TOO SKINNY - She is SKELETALLY PROMINENT. She does not HAVE A MUSTACHE - She is IN TOUCH WITH HER MASCULINE SIDE. She does not HATE TELEVISED SPORTS - She is ATHLETICALLY IGNORANT. She has not BEEN AROUND - She is a PREVIOUSLY ENJOYED COMPANION. She does not WEAR TOO MUCH PERFUME - She commits FRAGRANCE ABUSE. She does not GET YOU EXCITED - She causes TEMPORARY BLOOD DISPLACEMENT. She is not KINKY - She is a NON-INHIBITED SEXUAL COMPANION. She does not have a KILLER BODY - She is TERMINALLY ATTRACTIVE. She does not GO SHOPPING - She is MALL FLUENT. She is not an AIRHEAD - She is REALITY IMPAIRED. She does not get DRUNK or TIPSY - She gets CHEMICALLY INCONVENIENCED. She does not get FAT or CHUBBY - She achieves MAXIMUM DENSITY. She is not COLD or FRIGID - She is THERMALLY INACCESSIBLE. She is not HORNY - She is SEXUALLY FOCUSED. She does not WEAR TOO MUCH MAKEUP - She has reached COSMETIC SATURATION. She does not have BREAST IMPLANTS - She is GRAVITY RESISTANT. She does not NAG YOU - She becomes VERBALLY REPETITIVE She is not a SLUT - She is SEXUALLY EXTROVERTED. She is not LOOSE - She is MORALLY IMPAIRED. She does not have MAJOR LEAGUE HOOTERS - She is PECTORALLY SUPERIOR. She does not have THIN LIPS - She is COLLAGEN DEPENDENT. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To unsubscribe, visit http://www.azstarnet.com/~thead/bbq/MailingList.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= --------------3F3D4F2B621-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 15 22:56:58 1999 Return-Path: holmzrus@XXXXXX Received: from floyd.qis.net (floyd.qis.net [209.150.96.22]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA22856 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:56:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from qis.net (pm4-balt-204.qis.net [209.150.97.204]) by floyd.qis.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id WAA20851 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3716A7F7.9B86AA7@qis.net> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:01:11 -0400 From: "Mitchell K. Holmes" Reply-To: holmzrus@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Early BRPers References: <85256754.004B60F8.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> <4.1.19990415134432.01340930@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a N.C. history note: Zebulon Vance was governor of North Carolina during the Civil War and again in the Reconstruction Period. He was born, I believe, in Western North Carolina. Can't find my history book right now. Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda Magna VF700C Chris Norloff wrote: > > I'll second that idea! My favorite is the road to the Z.B. Vance > birthplace, in North Carolina, I think. Z. B. Vance is Zebulon B. Vance, > famed in song and story (down there I guess). > > T From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 00:36:07 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA24231 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:36:05 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV3NV8XB; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:36:05 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31MQ1M; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:36:06 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256755.001941D5 ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:35:52 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256755.0016A6C2.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:34:54 -0400 Subject: Touching Pegs & Rear Braking 1st - Sean, what kind of bike were riding when you touched the peg. I was leaned over past 45 degrees on my YZF1K a couple of days ago & I wasn't able to touch the peg. Even at that lean angle, in the back of you mind, your praying your tires continue to stick. Fun, but scary. 2nd - Breaking the habit of using that damn rear brake. I've been riding for (15) years & I still go for that rear brake in a panic situation. As time has gone by, I've learned to regulate the amount of braking I apply from the rear but it's still such a natural instinct that I don't think I'll ever be able to regulate the rear brake without concentrating. The problem occurs when your about to hit or get hit & your brain screams "STOP". I think there's a big difference when your in a controlled emergency situation, ie, expecting gramps to pull out in front of you & he does as opposed to going into a curve too hot & realizing it at the last moment. The other day & was leaning into a curve & felt I was moving too rapidly. I applied the front brakes while the big YZF was tilted over & slightly pressed the rear foot break. This time everything worked & I was able to hold the line throughout the curve. What's disturbing is that although I used the breaks correctly, I wonder what would've happened if I was moving (5) mph faster. Would I have locked up the rear brake? Probably. Using both brakes correctly helps to keep the chasis composed during heavy braking. Unfortunately, you don't realize how much is too much until you feel the rear breaking loose & by then, it's probably too late. I think anti-locking rear breaks would be a great idea. DJ & "Faith" From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 07:21:01 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA00898 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <27GX56PJ>; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:20:44 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Leons' bike luggage Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:20:41 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Ok.. I seem to have tripped over a bike to commute with.. something I don't mind putting luggage on.. but of course I'm not going to spend big money on GIVI junk (*chuckle*, alright.. calm down now y'all.. it's only 'junk' because it's to expensive for my purposes.. I'm sure the build quality is wonderfull, and they are a great system.. are we all calm now again? Oh, yea.. it's junk.. :) Anyway.. Leon - or anyone that's got good knowledge of his 250.. how do you secure that rubermaid tub to the back? Is it waterproof when you're done? How easily can it be removed/installed? Is there a recomended - don't go bigger than XXX size - limit? I don't mind loosing the passanger seat (as long as it won't take me more than 30minutes to remove). *grin* Thanks.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 09:22:42 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02495 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:22:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA14831 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09090 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:22:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (209-122-214-218.s472.tnt3.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.214.218]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA24131 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:30:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3717377D.1C64@erols.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:13:33 -0400 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: message error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just realized while reading this am's e-mail that I accidentally posted to the dc-cycles board a message that was supposed to go elsewhere. My apologies to everyone. -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 09:54:48 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02987 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:54:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990416135752.15427.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web304.yahoomail.com; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 06:57:52 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 06:57:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Touching Pegs & Rear Braking To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- djones@XXXXXX wrote: > 1st - Sean, what kind of bike were riding when you touched the peg. He was on a very Sweet CBR 1000. Also reminded him to be careful since the steel exhaust canisters are sure to drag soon after pegs on that model.. and they don't grind down near as easy as the pegs or the aluminum canisters on some of the newer models. I > was > leaned over past 45 degrees on my YZF1K a couple of days ago & I > wasn't > able to touch the peg. Even at that lean angle, in the back of you > mind, > your praying your tires continue to stick. Fun, but scary. > Unless you are doing something silly (like jamming on brakes, trailing throttle too much, etc.) the stock tires are more than adequate to get you all the way down to the pegs...(unless they are dunlop D204's...) Just make sure you're on decent pavement and your tire pressures are set properly. > 2nd - Breaking the habit of using that damn rear brake. WHY?? It can be a life saver. And if you never practice using it, then sure, you're going to hose it up in a panic situation. Use it and use it often. Go to a parking lot and practice panic braking. I've been > riding > for (15) years & I still go for that rear brake in a panic situation. Got ya by a few years... working on my 19th year riding (not bad fer a young un) lol. and yep, I COUNT on the rear brake in a panic situation. > The other day & was leaning into a curve & felt I was moving > too > rapidly. I applied the front brakes while the big YZF was tilted over > & > slightly pressed the rear foot break. This time everything worked & I > was > able to hold the line throughout the curve. You're lucky. Using the front brake while leaned is the WORST thing you can do. If your front tire can handle the extra load, you can trail rear brake through the corner. If the front is already loaded a bit heavy, your best option is to roll on the throttle. It will unload the front tire as well as give you more ground clearance so you can lean farther to make the turn. The front brake will just work to stand the bike up and make you run a wider line. What's disturbing is > that > although I used the breaks correctly, I wonder what would've happened > if I > was moving (5) mph faster. Would I have locked up the rear brake? > Probably. Probably not, assuming you pressed the brake with the same force. It would take an even harder press to lock it up with more speed. > Using both brakes correctly helps to keep the chasis composed during > heavy > braking. Very much so. In addition it is great for scrubbing off speed while leaned in a corner. It also does a really nice job of kicking the rear end out so you can square off a corner and get the back tire spinning up some on corner exit, but I wouldn't recommend that for everyday street riding ;-) Unfortunately, you don't realize how much is too much until > you > feel the rear breaking loose & by then, it's probably too late. That's why you go to a parking lot and practice practice practice!!! Then you know...and when it is wet outside... go practice some more so you have a good idea how different conditions effect braking. Collin 97 GSXR 750 (Canary w/beak of death!) 82 Maxim 650 (Pepe the pack mule) and a bunch of other junk in the shed... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 09:57:36 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03086 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:57:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 7WQIa07983; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:56:58 EDT Subject: Re: Touching Pegs & Rear Braking To: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/16/99 12:43:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, djones@XXXXXX writes: << Probably. Using both brakes correctly helps to keep the chasis composed during heavy braking. Unfortunately, you don't realize how much is too much until you feel the rear breaking loose & by then, it's probably too late. I think anti-locking rear breaks would be a great idea. >> I think anti-lock brakes (but not linked) front and back would be good for everyone except exceptionally talented racers. I guess it is a weight issue though. When I was 16 I went from racing motocross to road racing and had been using the rear brake alot. My "coach" simply disconnected my rear brake on the race bike and only re-connected it for races, it worked. I now only use the rear brake for specific purposes and it isn't an automatic reaction. My Norton's rear brake is an on-off affair so I disconnected it, engine braking is so powerful on a Norton anyway. The 98-ZX-9R rear brake is pretty good in that it requires tremendous pressure to get it to work. Plus I set it so I really have to twist my foot downward to get any reaction. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 10:30:31 1999 Return-Path: F4Rider@XXXXXX Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (viper.bcbsblue.com [208.146.143.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03627 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:30:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (root@localhost) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id KAA19271 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com ([199.97.109.162]) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id KAA19267 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com (root@localhost) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with ESMTP id KAA01429 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bc41466 ([172.16.4.164]) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with SMTP id KAA01425 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990416102710.0124b620@ns2.pgcc.net> X-Sender: brad@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:27:10 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Brad Subject: Mid-Ohio Races Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Someone on the list here mentioned riding up to Ohio for the Superbike races this summer. (Sorry, I lost your email). Is that still planned? I'm trying to get my vacation days planned... Thanks. Brad From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 12:08:25 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (web803.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.63]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05268 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:08:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990416161246.28238.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:12:46 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:12:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: horkster@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Touching Pegs & Rear Braking To: "Collin T. Fagan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "Collin T. Fagan" wrote: > the stock tires are more than adequate to get > you all the way down to the pegs...(unless they are dunlop D204's...) > > Just make sure you're on decent pavement and your tire pressures are > set properly. Collin, Just curious as to what you recommend tire pressures should be on the street? I've found I get the best tire life running about 40 psi front/rear, that's just about the max pressure stamped on the sidewalls. I think when racing you guys use fairly low pressures, like 25psi or so, right? What are you comfy with when street riding? Dale === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 12:16:52 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05450 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:16:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from henrywin (dc-csesp54.idsonline.com [207.176.21.54]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA26745 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:16:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: Dr. Gridlock etc. (and lanesplitting article) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:16:54 -0400 Message-ID: <000401be8824$8adea5c0$3615b0cf@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <19990415130117.9896.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I wonder if this applies to motorcycle police. I was behind two > of them on Why didn't you ask them? Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 13:20:18 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06570 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:19:32 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Touching Pegs & Rear Braking Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:18:56 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > Just curious as to what you recommend tire pressures > should be on the street? I've found I get the best > tire life running about 40 psi front/rear, that's just > about the max pressure stamped on the sidewalls. I think > when racing you guys use fairly low pressures, like 25psi > or so, right? What are you comfy with when street riding? I'm not Collin.. but I might be as qualified to answer. First off, it depends Entirely on the tires you're running. Because I have direct experience with Dunlop 207s and Avon Azaros, I'll use these 2 tires to describe. The Dunlops are a stiffer carcas tire - to get them to heat properly, you need to lower the tire pressure so they flex and generate the necessary heat to loosen the rubber from its compounding agent and stick to the road. The Avons, because of a calculated, built in carcas flex, need to be run at a higher pressure. (When I'm talking 'carcas flex' - what I'm attempting to describe is the over-all softness. If you were to push on an un-mounted Avon Azarro, it would bend under your pressure.. the Dunlops, and infact, most other brands, will not.) In speaking with the Avon rep. at the NYC motorcycle show, Collin and I asked about their street-tires. At one point, we mentioned that a couple of our friends really didn't like the tire.. but associated that to being on V-twin bikes. Apparently, Avon recomeds a LOW pressure, for sport/stree riding of 38psi - that's fully 5~8 psi higher than what most guys run in their 207s. If you run them lower than that, the tires overheat, cook themselves, release the bonding agent to much, they slip, and the tires wear-out/chunk really quickly. All in all, a bad thing to have happen to your street-tires. On the track, it was a different story. Collin ran 28psi front and 28.5 psi rear (all pressures listed are cold). We got Awesome stick, well above average wqear, and none of the 'traditional' dunlop tire detonation/self destruction that most racers have accustom themselves to. Well.. after taking a long haitus from the topic.. I'd run the tire pressures in the middle of the manufactures recomendations unless you have reason to vary it. For me, with the Avons, that'll be 40psi.. at least till I notice they aren't heating completely.. then I'll drop them down to 38. This should give me the best mix of stick and longevity.. I hope.. *grin* ok, now who DIDN'T I confuse? :) let the flames begin? Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 16:13:34 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09365 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10YExl-0003VY-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:11:45 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26809 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000c01be8846$5c796360$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: Subject: Vanson Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:18:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Where is the best place to get a new Vanson jacket? Dave From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 17:02:07 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10336 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:01:06 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:01:05 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:59:06 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Touching Pegs & Rear Braking -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Brian, What the hell are you thinking? 28.5? Are you trying to get someone killed? 28 front/28 rear is the ONLY acceptable way to do it, and it doesn't matter that I weigh 20lbs more than Collin or that I'm slower or that my bike is 100lbs lighter than his or that he uses radials and I have to run bias-plys with tubes! Jeez! (hope I made your day by taking the bait ;-) Joe RD400Fwaiting, waiting . . . I'm not Collin.. but I might be as qualified to answer. First off, it depends Entirely on the tires you're running. Because I have direct experience with Dunlop 207s and Avon Azaros, I'll use these 2 tires to describe. The Dunlops are a stiffer carcas tire - to get them to heat properly, you need to lower the tire pressure so they flex and generate the necessary heat to loosen the rubber from its compounding agent and stick to the road. The Avons, because of a calculated, built in carcas flex, need to be run at a higher pressure. (When I'm talking 'carcas flex' - what I'm attempting to describe is the over-all softness. If you were to push on an un-mounted Avon Azarro, it would bend under your pressure.. the Dunlops, and infact, most other brands, will not.) In speaking with the Avon rep. at the NYC motorcycle show, Collin and I asked about their street-tires. At one point, we mentioned that a couple of our friends really didn't like the tire.. but associated that to being on V-twin bikes. Apparently, Avon recomeds a LOW pressure, for sport/stree riding of 38psi - that's fully 5~8 psi higher than what most guys run in their 207s. If you run them lower than that, the tires overheat, cook themselves, release the bonding agent to much, they slip, and the tires wear-out/chunk really quickly. All in all, a bad thing to have happen to your street-tires. On the track, it was a different story. Collin ran 28psi front and 28.5 psi rear (all pressures listed are cold). We got Awesome stick, well above average wqear, and none of the 'traditional' dunlop tire detonation/self destruction that most racers have accustom themselves to. Well.. after taking a long haitus from the topic.. I'd run the tire pressures in the middle of the manufactures recomendations unless you have reason to vary it. For me, with the Avons, that'll be 40psi.. at least till I notice they aren't heating completely.. then I'll drop them down to 38. This should give me the best mix of stick and longevity.. I hope.. *grin* ok, now who DIDN'T I confuse? :) let the flames begin? Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 17:18:48 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10586 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:18:15 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:18:13 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:16:05 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, kirk@XXXXXX Subject: Re: YSR50 races -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline These bikes are hilarious, especially when they're racing. A friend of mine built one with a YZ 80 engine. Really stupid, scary fun! Joe >>> Kirk Roy - 4/15/99 11:26 AM >>> On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Brian N wrote: > Has anyone else seen these guys race? I've got a couple of friends who do this. It's got to be the cheapest and easiest way to race... One of the 2 guys claims he has more fun at it than he ever did "real" racing. The other has since bought a 125GP and has started "real" racing... I've been tempted at times to pick up a YSR and do this myself. How about http://www.magpage.com/~cfaison/ysr.htm for a url... He's got links to other YSR stuff (including Calamari). Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 17:19:59 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10606 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:19:57 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id RAA29922; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:21:05 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma026012; Fri, 16 Apr 99 17:17:22 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FAA00GDCWIWBY@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256755.0074C859 ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:15:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:13:02 -0400 Subject: Re: Vanson To: David Cross Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256755.00756BF2.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Their factory store in Massachusetts. Other than that you can try Marietta Motorsports via mail order. I bought a Tecknic jacket from them and was very pleased with their service. --chris To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Christopher Meier/P I/Arlington VA/C&L/US) From: David Cross Date: 04/16/99 08:18:55 PM GMT Subject: Vanson Where is the best place to get a new Vanson jacket? Dave ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 18:11:05 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA11414 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:11:04 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 6UAGa25155; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:09:28 EDT Subject: Re: Vanson To: dave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/16/1999 4:29:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dave@XXXXXX writes: << Where is the best place to get a new Vanson jacket? Dave >> Try www.leatherexchange.com or www.newenough.com. Newenough.com specializes in Used Vanson leathers. Most of it looks brand new. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 19:16:39 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA12502 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer (207-172-119-233.s233.tnt2.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.119.233]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA00567 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:16:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "LindaT" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: Non-starter Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:19:20 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01be885f$8eb43d00$e977accf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal I've been trying for the last two weeks to get my cute little KLR250 started again, to no avail. The old plug was black and moist (but looked relative new). The new plug is NEW and dry after repeated kicks. I thought maybe it was acting like it's out of gas, but the fuel line has fuel in it and I get backfires while I'm kicking away. I am definitely getting spark as I pulled the plug and rested it against the head and kicked some more and I could see a spark. I guess I'll drain the tank and put some fresh stuff in there. Getting to the carb looks difficult, but I guess I'll try that too. Any other suggestions??? LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (54K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 19:23:00 1999 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA12607 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust033.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.33]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA22039; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:23:57 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990416192220.006a3024@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:22:20 -0400 To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Leons' bike luggage In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:20 AM 4/16/99 -0700, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: Brian asked: >Anyway.. Leon - or anyone that's got good knowledge of his 250.. how do you >secure that rubermaid tub to the back? 30 minutes??? Only if the fuel cell is full, and needed to be emptied first. I can switch from the one with the fuel cell to the cargo only version in less than 10 minutes. The backend of the Ninja 250 is mostly flat from the front of the passenger seat all the way back to the taillight. If you cut a hole in the bottom of the tub that will let the passenger grab bar stick up into the tub, you can put a large piece of plywood in the bottom of the tub and then use a smaller piece of plywood to wedge under the grab rail and hold the tub down. Up in front I used a couple of small fasteners to pull on the front bungee hooks. The whole thing pops off in a couple of minutes. When I got the second one with a fuel cell, I cut the grab bar off and put a couple of pieces of angle iron on the bottom of the tub, drilled and tapped the sides of the grab rail so two bolts hold the back end down and the front is still secured with the bungee hooks. Are you still working in the Casey building? If the weather is nice on Monday, how about I show it to you. Otherwise perhaps we could pick a day next week and get several people together for lunch. This weekend I'll be at the Waldorf MVA teaching motorcycle safety. You could also see it there. > Is it waterproof when you're done? Why would you want hard luggage if it isn't? >How easily can it be removed/installed? The toughest part is lifting it up over the CB antenna. >Is there a recomended - don't go bigger than XXX size - limit? If it's too wide, it's hard to split lanes. If it's too heavy the front wheel won't stay down. >*grin* Yup. Leon. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 20:01:10 1999 Return-Path: jbroga@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA13125 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:01:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (sterling-64.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FAB009J941KFH@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:54:40 -0700 From: jambroga Subject: Re: Vanson To: David Cross , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <002501be887d$a3dcd200$402fbccc@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 X-Priority: 3 Direct - 617 344 5444. I got a coupoun once for Loudoun Motorsports for 25% off any accessory so I ordered mine through them, but with no coupoun you might as well go direct, or call Greg at Loudoun motorsports and see if he can beat Vansons price. Jonathan Broga ps if you do call greg please mention my name - I am trying to get a little sponsorship for racing . . .thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: David Cross To: Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 1:18 PM Subject: Vanson >Where is the best place to get a new Vanson jacket? > >Dave > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 20:53:53 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web302.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.184]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA13803 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:53:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990417005438.3970.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.113.3] by web302.yahoomail.com; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:54:38 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:54:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: non-moto: Hacker help To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey all, I've had some little pissant hacker bugging me today... actually, I F'd up and accidentally ran an exe while I was trying to delete it and gave the little snot enough access to boot my machine... I *think* I have the access blocked off, but I'm not overly sure... The guy is obviously not that sharp of a hacker.. his IP is reaily accessible through ICQ... Well, since I AM really an a$$hole, anyone out there got some really really nasty tricks for me to make this guys day miserable?? Should I find a copy of winnuke and hit him repeatedly? Or are there some others that are even better?? Geeks unite!!!! help me squash this little bug! Collin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 16 23:08:56 1999 Return-Path: SKPAH@XXXXXX Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA15459 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:08:55 -0400 (EDT) From: SKPAH@XXXXXX Received: from SKPAH@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 6UVKa25511; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5d481cb2.244954de@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:07:10 EDT Subject: Re: Vanson To: dave@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: SKPAH@XXXXXX I think coleman's in falls church carries a pretty good selection (maybe even the woodbridge store) and if you're lucky enough to be on their mailing list, they've got a good discount coupon off of any single accessory item...their "regular" prices seem ok but that coupon ought to make a nice new piece of cowhide on your back even easier to justify. steve 77 CB400F 82 MB-5 From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 17 05:43:37 1999 Return-Path: jbroga@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA24137 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 05:43:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (sterling-64.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FAB00CJ1V0BDJ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 05:43:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 05:37:06 -0700 From: jambroga Subject: Re: Vanson/Coleman To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <005a01be88cf$00eb9700$402fbccc@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 X-Priority: 3 I have to put in my two cents here, and this has nothing to do with the fact that I like Loudoun Motorsports. I have stopped dealing with Coleman and will never spend a dime there again unless it is an absolute emergency. I have bought two bike there and hated the experience, been told to wait 2 dats for a simple job that Sprinfield Cycle Sport took care of in 5 minutes, and my wife bought me an Arai Quantum there for Christmas and they wouldn't take it back ( it was $135 more at Coleman than mailorder) I told them my parents bought me a helmet too and they still wouldn't budge. Basically they rip us uff and they are not customer service driven, Go with A small shop. You'll most likely get much better service. Jonathan VTR 883 EX500 Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 8:07 PM Subject: Re: Vanson >I think coleman's in falls church carries a pretty good selection (maybe even >the woodbridge store) and if you're lucky enough to be on their mailing list, >they've got a good discount coupon off of any single accessory item...their >"regular" prices seem ok but that coupon ought to make a nice new piece of >cowhide on your back even easier to justify. > >steve > >77 CB400F >82 MB-5 > From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 17 05:51:40 1999 Return-Path: jbroga@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA24253 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 05:51:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (sterling-64.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FAB00CK4VDRDJ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 05:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 05:45:10 -0700 From: jambroga Subject: 883 for sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <005e01be88d0$2158dec0$402fbccc@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 X-Priority: 3 All - I am selling our 1997 883 Hugger. 2800mi black, excellent cond. drag pipes, drag bars, Drag Specialties air cleaner, Corbin Solo seat, misc chrome, short stalk mirrors, low profile signals. Just started racing and now must sell everything! I checked the Post and $6900 seems way lower than what everyone is asking, so I hope it will sell fast. We paid over 8k with all the accesorries added. If you know any one looking please let me know. Jonathan 703 327 0528 From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 17 09:18:16 1999 Return-Path: blasalle@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA26642 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-200-119-1.bellatlantic.net [151.200.119.1]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA21490; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37188951.EFF3CAA@bellatlantic.net> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:14:58 -0400 From: Brian & Christa LaSalle Reply-To: blasalle@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Riding in Southern MD on Sunday Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If anybody is interested in an informal ride through Southern maryland (Prince Georges, Charles, St Mary's and maybe Calvert counties) on Sunday - Dan Kenny (red TLS) and I (yellow Nighthawk) are planning on starting at the custom car show in Charlotte Hall and heading in an undetermined direction for the afternoon. The exact time/place are not yet set, so please email me directly (I am on the digest version) and we'll figure out the details. Thanks Brian From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 17 14:45:35 1999 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01092 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:45:34 -0400 (EDT) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr50-dialup171.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.196.175]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35317) with SMTP id <0FAC00LBVK2ZPK@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:45:00 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 14:44:40 +0000 Subject: Re: Vanson To: David Cross , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <006401be88e0$d3f42fc0$afc43ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal David, Battley Cycles in Gaithersburg and Bob's BMW carry Vanson. Jon -----Original Message----- From: David Cross To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 8:38 PM Subject: Vanson >Where is the best place to get a new Vanson jacket? > >Dave > > From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 17 18:36:16 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03986 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer (207-172-117-212.s212.tnt12.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.117.212]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id SAA10785; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:36:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "LindaT" To: "DC-CYCLES" , "Klr" Subject: Non-starter Update Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:38:59 -0400 Message-ID: <000201be8923$15db3220$d475accf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal I drained the tank, fuel line and the carb and put in some nice new gas. What came out didn't look bad. The fuel line has a clear, inline filter so I could see the gas going through it. While poking around I noticed that the hose clamp sorta thingy that holds the carb to the engine was broken. I fixed it. The air filter I bought was too big. I think they sold me one for a 650, but it looks like I can just cut it down to fit. The old one doesn't look bad, so back in it goes. I kicked that puppy a zillion times and this time it coughed and started - for two minutes. I kicked it some more and it started again - for less than two minutes. I continued to kick and got sputters, but no start. I pulled the plug and it looked sooty. I cleaned it off and re-installed it. I tried the starter fluid, but by then I had run the battery down, so now the battery is charging and it looks like I need to get the carb loose and investigate. Any tips on getting it off?? It looks like the two hose clamps hold it on and the connector to the airbox is pretty flexible. Thanks to all who gave me great suggestions. You were right. It sure looks/sounds like a fuel problem. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (54K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 17 20:04:23 1999 Return-Path: ajax@XXXXXX Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA05063 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [166.70.9.208] (helo=kurt) by mail.xmission.com with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10Yf4I-0003uZ-00; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:04:14 -0600 Message-ID: <002601be892f$046a5be0$d00946a6@kurt> From: "Kurt Simpson" To: "LindaT" , "DC-CYCLES" , "Klr" Subject: Re: (klr650) Non-starter Update Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:04:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 >Any tips on getting it off?? It looks like the two hose clamps hold it on >and the connector to the airbox is pretty flexible. it is going to be hard for us to tell Jeff seems to be the only one that has been close to one...on our 650's the "choke" cable is the bugaboo...everything short of a soak can be done by rotating first this way and then that way...chances are most of your problems can be corrected by dropping the bowl, the floats, the float needle, and the two jets and making them squeaky clean... Kurt From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 17 20:21:24 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA05341 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:21:23 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV3NWCWQ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:21:23 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31M8M3; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:21:24 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256757.0001F0FA ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:21:12 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: thunderacelist@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256757.000186E3.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:20:18 -0400 Subject: What To Wear Under Full Leathers? Since I just purchased my first set of leathers, I'm wondering what people normally wear under them during warm weather. I was considering long runners pants & top (spandex). Any other suggestions? Later, DJ 97' Yamaha YZF1000R From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 17 20:50:46 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA05716 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:50:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 7NDMa00790; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:49:39 EDT Subject: Re: What To Wear Under Full Leathers? To: djones@XXXXXX, thunderacelist@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/17/99 8:28:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, djones@XXXXXX writes: << Any other suggestions? >> In winter log-johns and turtle neck. In summer a tee-shirt alone. From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 17 21:05:29 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA05919 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer (207-172-64-174.s174.tnt17.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.64.174]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id VAA26902 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:05:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "LindaT" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: What To Wear Under Full Leathers? Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:08:23 -0400 Message-ID: <000301be8937$f4da33e0$d475accf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Shouldn't that be a t-shirt and a smile? LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (54K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ Boiade@XXXXXX said: In winter log-johns and turtle neck. In summer a tee-shirt alone. From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 17 21:39:27 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA06328 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id VAA02254 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:39:15 -0400 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:39:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles Subject: Check from progressive, and new bike! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, I got the check from Progressive for the YZF yesterday. I cannot recommend them enough after this incident. They were very prompt, curtious, and nice to deal with. The biggest suprise was in the check amount... Progressive does not use blue book value. They find out what the bike is *actually worth* by calling around to see what that year/model is selling for in your area,, and that's what you get. The payout for my '98 YZF600R w/3400 miles was *$6800*. I paid $7200 for it new! SO anyway... I finally had decided on a new bike, and today purchased it. As of next Sat, I will be the proud owner of a '99 Ducati 900ss, full faringss, bright yellow! I ended up purchasing it from Rockville Harley-Davidson (Battley Cycle) in gaithersburg. Real nice folks, and miles above Coleman in customer service, even though they were very busy. Cannot wait till next sat... it better not rain!! - Brian Roach '99 HD FXDL '99 Ducati 900ss From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 17 21:40:36 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA06341 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:40:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id nIUWa12149; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:13:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5ab00074.244a8bbe@aol.com> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:13:34 EDT Subject: Re: What To Wear Under Full Leathers? To: ljtanner@XXXXXX, DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/17/99 9:11:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ljtanner@XXXXXX writes: << Shouldn't that be a t-shirt and a smile? >> Yes, a smile was assumed. And if one is a little shy boxers would be ok. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 17 21:52:45 1999 Return-Path: nbenda@XXXXXX Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (sp28fe.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.128.108]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA06553 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ufl.edu (sp17.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.128.17]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/2.2.1) with ESMTP id VAA29082; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:52:31 -0400 Received: from ufl.edu (ppp-24-ts51.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.26.28]) by ufl.edu (8.9.0/8.9.1/2.3.1) with ESMTP id VAA132202; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:52:29 -0400 Message-ID: <37192CA2.26C67A41@ufl.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:51:46 -0300 From: nbenda X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kurt Simpson CC: LindaT , DC-CYCLES , Klr Subject: Re: (klr650) Non-starter Update References: <002601be892f$046a5be0$d00946a6@kurt> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kurt Simpson wrote: > >Any tips on getting it off?? It looks like the two hose clamps hold it on > >and the connector to the airbox is pretty flexible. > > it is going to be hard for us to tell Jeff seems to be the only one that has been close to > one...on our 650's the "choke" cable is the bugaboo...everything short of a soak can be done by > rotating first this way and then that way...chances are most of your problems can be corrected > by dropping the bowl, the floats, the float needle, and the two jets and making them squeaky > clean... > > Kurt I don't know if this kosher, but on My little 60cc, the needle was so badly tarnished I had to polish it with rubber bit on my dremel tool. if you put it on low speed and are very careful, by the time you're done it's too clean to squeak! And for some fantastic news, I got my first KLR650 today!!! A '99 and I'm not saying how much I paid (I have no spine) I Finally had to put it away after putting a 100miles on it.......1/5th of the way!! A proud new member of the collective- Mike From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 17 22:01:06 1999 Return-Path: mberman@XXXXXX Received: from min.net (root@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06700 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 22:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dc-p1-01.min.net (dc-p1-01.min.net [208.210.93.160]) by min.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA24959 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 22:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:58:47 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: Morris Berman To: DC Cycles Subject: Aids Ride Message-ID: X-X-Sender: berman@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is anyone from around here going to be working with getting marshalls for the AIDS ride this year? I may be interested in helping out in this way this year. When is it? Thanks, -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL(DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C)#446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 17 22:15:31 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (web306.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.188]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA06888 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 22:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990418021639.17975.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [216.70.70.66] by web306.yahoomail.com; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:16:39 PDT Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:16:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Aids Ride To: Morris Berman , DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Is anyone from around here going to be working with getting marshalls for > the AIDS ride this year? I was a motorcycle escort for the '97 and '98 AIDS Ride, and will be again for the '99. The ride will begin June 24th in Raleigh, NC (need to be there on the 23rd for registration, safety briefing, etc.), and will end June 27th in DC. If you'd like to read my writeup of the '97 ride, see http://www.clark.net/~louis/aidsride.htm Overall I find it a very worthwhile event, and I get a real charge out of being a part of something this big. The bicyclists that I speak to tell me that they really appreciate those of us on the motorcycles because we are out there with them all the way. So far they have 2,000 riders signed up for this year, larger than any previous year. I'd be happy to answer any other questions you or anyone else have about the ride, and motorcycle escort duties. From what I understand they are still looking for other motorcycle people. There is a $45, fee, but it covers all meals, t-shirts, tents, gear trucks, etc. Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 18 06:13:33 1999 Return-Path: jlwalk@XXXXXX Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.58.53]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA13854 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 06:13:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jlwalk (slip-32-100-100-244.wa.us.ibm.net [32.100.100.244]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA83540; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 06:13:15 -0400 Message-ID: <00aa01be8984$3449e920$f4646420@jlwalk> From: "Jeff & Lisa Walker" To: "Kurt Simpson" , "LindaT" , "DC-CYCLES" , "Klr" Subject: Re: (klr650) Non-starter Update Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 03:14:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 > >>Any tips on getting it off?? It looks like the two hose clamps hold it on >>and the connector to the airbox is pretty flexible. > > >it is going to be hard for us to tell Jeff seems to be the only one that has been close to >one... Hey man, all I did was ride the things. In the Army, with TAMMS (The Army Maintenance Management System), I was considered the Operator. The PMCS (Preventative Maintenance Checks and Services) for the bike were as follows: Check to make sure that the tank has gas. Check the oil level and look for leaks. check the tires for pressure. Check to make sure it starts and the brakes work. That's it. I wasn't even authorized to check the chain, nor did I worry about it, because that is what the mechanic at HQ was paid for. To this day, I couldn't even tell you where the choke is on it. Sorry. Definitely sounds like a fuel problem, gummy varnish somewhere in the jets or something. Jeff From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 18 14:02:45 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19738 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:02:44 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 2NKKa16068 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <68c15463.244b77fa@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:01:30 EDT Subject: Re: What To Wear Under Full Leathers? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX I usually wear street clothes under the leather (jeans...shirt)- so i can take it off in public if I want to :D Marcy In a message dated 4/17/99 8:28:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, djones@XXXXXX writes: > I was considering long > runners pants & top (spandex). From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 18 14:04:33 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19758 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:04:32 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id fXMAa21067; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:03:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41659691.244b7866@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:03:18 EDT Subject: Re: Aids Ride To: mberman@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX www.aidsride.org I'm thinking about doing it on a bicycle again this year :D although motorcycling through it would be nice too M. From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 18 17:45:22 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA22724 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA23024 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:45:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.246.124]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA29617 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA03588 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:45:05 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma003586; Sun, 18 Apr 99 17:44:53 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990418174253.00994410@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:44:49 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: 6 Bikes on 66 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On my way to Rt. 123 on 66 this afternoon and saw 6-7 cafes on side of the road (East bound 1/4 mile before 123) with VDOT, flat bed tow and police. Was that anyone on the list? Saw no visible damage or downed riders..... _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 The great thing about lights set for 35MPH is that they work at 70 too. From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 18 18:04:22 1999 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA22907 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zellto (adsl-151-200-16-190.bellatlantic.net [151.200.16.190]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA19788 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:03:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001c01be89e7$a7dbc080$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> From: "Thomas and Jeannette" To: References: <85256757.000186E3.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Subject: Re: What To Wear Under Full Leathers? Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:06:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I usually wear leggings and a t-shirt. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Saturday, April 17, 1999 8:20 PM Subject: What To Wear Under Full Leathers? > Since I just purchased my first set of leathers, I'm wondering what people > normally wear under them during warm weather. I was considering long > runners pants & top (spandex). Any other suggestions? > > Later, DJ > 97' Yamaha YZF1000R > > > From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 18 19:01:53 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA23751 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:01:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 2UADa00664; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1a5f3743.244bbdf4@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 19:00:04 EDT Subject: Re: What To Wear Under Full Leathers? To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/18/99 2:09:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JinnSinn@XXXXXX writes: << I usually wear street clothes under the leather (jeans...shirt)- so i can take it off in public if I want to :D >> You would have to buy leathers a size larger unless you wear really tight jeans. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 18 21:51:58 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA26223 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:51:57 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV3NWDF5; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:51:58 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31M00Y; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:51:59 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256758.000A3AE0 ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:51:44 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256758.00096240.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:50:49 -0400 Subject: Impressions: Full Leathers All I can say is, better late than never. Riding in full leathers is like riding in an enclosed flexible leather body cast. Initially, a new set is stiff of course, but just knowing that I'm are fully protected increased my confidence immensely. I also found that my riding experience was greatly improved with full leathers & ear-plugs only made it more enjoyable. I was only able to do about 100 miles but I was ready to do 300. Can't wait to go out again ;) Anyone know of any good routes down 301 out of Bowie? DJ & "Faith" From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 18 22:24:51 1999 Return-Path: fnord@XXXXXX Received: from sasami.jurai.net (fnord@XXXXXX [207.153.65.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA26712 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from fnord@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA22202; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:24:42 -0400 From: Elie Rosenblum To: djones@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Impressions: Full Leathers Message-ID: <19990418222441.A21901@cosanostra.net> References: <85256758.00096240.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <85256758.00096240.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com>; from djones@bigyellow.com on Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 09:50:49PM -0400 X-Illuminati: Can you see the fnords? X-Cthulhu: HASTUR And thus spake djones@XXXXXX, on Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 09:50:49PM -0400: > All I can say is, better late than never. Riding in full leathers is like > riding in an enclosed flexible leather body cast. Initially, a new set is > stiff of course, but just knowing that I'm are fully protected increased my > confidence immensely. I also found that my riding experience was greatly > improved with full leathers & ear-plugs only made it more enjoyable. I was > only able to do about 100 miles but I was ready to do 300. Can't wait to go > out again ;) > > Anyone know of any good routes down 301 out of Bowie? I'd be interested in anything local to that area as well. A word of warning, stay close to the speed limit on 197 and Race Track Rd. in that area, the cops are heavy and eager. -- Elie Rosenblum '83 Datsun PU (beater/hauler) 2.4L I4 http://www.cosanostra.net '75 Volvo 164E (disassembled) 3.0L I6 Admin / Mercenary / System Programmer '74 Honda CB750 (fun) .74L I4 From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 18 23:20:39 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA27554 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-108.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.108]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA02921 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:20:31 -0400 Message-ID: <030f01be8a13$7bc6f240$36a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Nothing New Under . . . (Nonmoto) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:19:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_030C_01BE89F1.F3FCB0A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_030C_01BE89F1.F3FCB0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stolen from the Vulcan list -- >How did the dark ages come about ? see answer below.... " Y1K "< Bill S. / DC=20 99 VN750 --> Mi6K Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. ------=_NextPart_000_030C_01BE89F1.F3FCB0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_030C_01BE89F1.F3FCB0A0-- From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 18 23:35:22 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA27794 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-108.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.108]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA03181 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:35:18 -0400 Message-ID: <032101be8a15$8c5e7720$36a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Motorcycle Training -- Germanna Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:34:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_031E_01BE89F4.033CE2E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_031E_01BE89F4.033CE2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just today became aware of beginner and experienced training available = at Germanna Community College (F'Burg area). It is said that GCC has = several summer courses (which Loudoun apparently does not). =20 http://ganymede.dv.synetics.com/development/davej/gcc click on "novice = info" or "training bikes" or "ERC info". =20 Bill S. / DC=20 99 VN750 Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. ------=_NextPart_000_031E_01BE89F4.033CE2E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_031E_01BE89F4.033CE2E0-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 03:22:18 1999 Return-Path: chris_beasley@XXXXXX Received: from smtp0.mindspring.com (smtp0.mindspring.com [207.69.200.30]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA01930 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 03:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mindspring.com (user-33qsolb.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.98.171]) by smtp0.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17588; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 03:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <371ADA01.8CEAE886@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:23:46 -0700 From: Christopher J Beasley Organization: H&E Rife Fdn. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LindaT CC: DC-CYCLES , Klr Subject: Re: (klr650) Non-starter Update References: <000201be8923$15db3220$d475accf@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LindaT wrote: > I drained the tank, fuel line and the carb and put in some nice new gas. > What came out didn't look bad. The fuel line has a clear, inline filter so > I could see the gas going through it. While poking around I noticed that > the hose clamp sorta thingy that holds the carb to the engine was broken. I > fixed it. The air filter I bought was too big. I think they sold me one > for a 650, but it looks like I can just cut it down to fit. The old one > doesn't look bad, so back in it goes. > Well, I think you should take back the 650 filter. While you're there, buy acan of K&N filter cleaner, and another of filter oil. Follow the instructions to clean and re-oil your filter, then put it back in. Those foam types are reusable for a while. > I kicked that puppy a zillion times and this time it coughed and started - > for two minutes. I kicked it some more and it started again - for less than > two minutes. I continued to kick and got sputters, but no start. I pulled > the plug and it looked sooty. I cleaned it off and re-installed it. I > tried the starter fluid, but by then I had run the battery down, so now the > battery is charging and it looks like I need to get the carb loose and > investigate. > > Any tips on getting it off?? It looks like the two hose clamps hold it on > and the connector to the airbox is pretty flexible. First of all, make sure things are pretty clean around where you will be working.Both the bike, and the place you are going to work on the carb should be somewhat clean. You CAN wiggle the carb out of a 650 without too much trouble or you can just loosen the clamps, take the cables off and turn it 90 degrees around the axis of airflow. Dunno about the 250. On the 650, the first time I wiggled it out I put a small tear in the carb-head boot. The second time I did it, I used a qtip with vaseline to grease the boot first. This will allow you to disassemble the bottom of the carb remove the floats, float needle, and jets. If you're lucky, and you spray carb cleaner through all the passages, and the jets, put everything back together. Did I mention keep it clean? It might work. If you want to be sure though, take the carb out and soak it. Cheers! > > > Thanks to all who gave me great suggestions. You were right. It sure > looks/sounds like a fuel problem. > Oh, I forgot, never speak too soon, or, failing that, don't let the bike hear.Beez ( the run-on paragraph man ) > LindaT. > 95 F3 Purple Haze (54K miles and counting...) > 86 KLR250 Klarabelle > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 06:48:29 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA04617 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:48:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id 7XYZa03718; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1d7b0316.244c63c8@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:47:36 EDT Subject: Re: Impressions: Full Leathers To: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/18/99 10:00:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, djones@XXXXXX writes: << Anyone know of any good routes down 301 out of Bowie? >> yes quite a few. Brian, Dale and I hit many of them yesterday. ciao Fred From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 07:19:55 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA05008 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA02192 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA09195 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA01853 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust007.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.7]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA27347 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:21:22 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990419072000.006a7904@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:20:00 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Motorcycle Training -- Germanna In-Reply-To: <032101be8a15$8c5e7720$36a4fccd@newmicronpc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:34 PM 4/18/99 -0400, Bill S. wrote: > Germanna Community College (F'Burg area). . . has several summer courses (which Loudoun apparently does not). > http://ganymede.dv.synetics.com/development/davej/gcc Both GCC and Loudoun have beginner courses all summer, it may be that Germanna has space in earlier classes. The campus is located about 15 miles east of Culpeper on Rt3. From the Springfield interchange (I95/I495/I395) it is a little more 60 miles to the campus. They use Honda CB125s and Suzuki GN125s. They are working a deal to get newer bikes, see their web page for more info. Leon. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 07:35:07 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA05273 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990419113629.22772.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.16.7] by web308.yahoomail.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 04:36:29 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 04:36:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Memorial Poker Run To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I wanted to let you folks know about a poker run that is being held this weekend, on Sunday. The poker run is a memorial poker run in memory of Libby Hatch, a rider who had a fatal crash late in 1998. I met Libby when we were working on the Motorcycle Escort crew for the AIDS Ride in 1997, she was in the tent next to me. She had a smile for everybody and was a pleasure to know. If anyone knows of people who are not on DC-Cycles who were involved in the AIDS Ride, could you forward this e-mail to them? Unfortunately I lost the e-mail addresses of other escort riders. Louis *********************************************************************** Just wanted to make sure all of you know about the upcoming event sponsored by the Diamond Roses Chapter of Women in the Wind. Please help us spread the word! Here is the announcement: Libby Hatch Memorial Poker Run The Diamond Roses Chapter of Women in the Wind, an international women's motorcycle group, is sponsoring a poker run on Sunday, April 25, 1999 to raise money for the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund, in memory of Libby Hatch, who died on December 6, 1998. Libby, an employee of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund, devoted a large portion of her life to activities supporting our veterans. "From the start of her life in Greenwich, Connecticut, Libby was always marching to her own tune. She finished high school in three years, went on to attend St. John's College in Annapolis and was graduated from Emerson College where she received a B.S. in Mass Communications. Libby moved to Washington, DC in 1976. During her time in Washington, she worked as a graphic artist for the Chronical of Higher Education, Bell Atlantic, the Washington Tribune, Unicorn Times and TV Tokyo. In the 1980's, Libby played bass in two rock bands, the Shirkers and Tru Fax and the Insaniacs. In 1991, Libby became the first staff member of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund. Together she and Jan Scruggs, the founder and president of the Fund, worked to organize many events at the Wall, including the annual Memorial Day and Veterans Day ceremonies. She was also a part-time fitness instructor and personal trainer for the National Capitol YMCA. Libby was a member of the Diamond Roses Chapter of Women in the Wind. This poker run has been organized in her memory as a fund raising event to continue her work. A poker run allows each participating motorcyclist an opportunity to enjoy a 100-120 mile ride alone or with a group of friends. Each rider pays an entry fee and draws one card at the starting point and receives directions to four other locations and draws a card at each location. At the final stop, the riders with the top three poker hands receive prizes. The Libby Hatch Memorial Poker Run will have an unusual number of great prizes; local business people have donated prizes including a night at the Ritz Carlton, a leather vest, a portable tv, and many others. The club with the largest attendance will receive an adult CPR class for 10 people. The Libby Hatch Memorial Run will start at the Capitol Expo Center in Chantilly, Va. and will end at Ruby Tuesdays in Sterling, Va. Registration will begin at 10:00 am with the final rider leaving at noon. Prizes will be drawn at 4:00 PM. Cost per hand is $10.00 with all profits going to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund. Info: Jeanne 540-351-0979 or email HDGirlee@XXXXXX or Chris 703-404-8687 or email Spoonfree@XXXXXX. Women in the Wind (WITW) is currently celebrating the 20th anniversary of the organization. The organization was founded to support women motorcyclists. Information on joining the Diamond Roses Chapter is available at the chapter web page at http://home.earthlink.net/~jplacon or by calling the numbers listed above. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 09:23:49 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA06755 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5.mcit.com [166.37.210.27]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA09849 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:19:48 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990419132309.ICAL20790@[166.41.242.214]> for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:23:09 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: FW: Another Bonus from Erebuni Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:21:05 -0400 Message-ID: <001101be8a67$7ad16380$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 FYI and for all interested. 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Please continue to visit our site, and enjoy the magazine! Your friends @ Erebuni http://www.erebuni.net From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 09:56:04 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (web305.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.187]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07221 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:56:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990419140418.26983.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web305.yahoomail.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:04:18 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:04:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: (klr650) Non-starter Update To: ljtanner@XXXXXX Cc: DC-CYCLES , Klr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Linda, If you need help tearing down the carb, I can lend a hand.... I've done quite a few carb cleaning jobs lately :) Collin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 10:22:15 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA07688 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05486 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:22:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13031 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:16:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Speedometer Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:16:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This is a monstrously stupid question, but I need a virtual pat on the head that my thinking is clear about something. The speedometer on my Magna stopped working about a month ago - odometer as well. Haven't had time to really look at it, but connections seem tight. Can I just unhook the bottom end and twist it to see if the dial turns? If it doesn't turn, how do I know that I need a new speedometer, or just a new cable? If I need a new speedometer, how can I set the odometer safely? In my mind that seems right, but I found out a long time ago that my mind is not always right (SWMBO says my mind has never been right). Please don't make me feel too stupid, OK? TIA, Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda VF700C From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 10:40:35 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA08048 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:40:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:39:43 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:39:41 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:38:01 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, thunderacelist@XXXXXX Subject: What To Wear Under Full Leathers? -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline If your leathers vent, wearing a polypro "wicking" t-shirt underneath really feels good when it's hot. bottom, I wear padded (hip & tailbone) dirt bike skivvies from Thor. Joe Black (!) but vented Vanson suit From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 11:08:00 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08626 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:07:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <27GX76L7>; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:07:38 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: What To Wear Under Full Leathers? -Reply Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:07:21 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) >From the racers list.. I've learned that it's really not a smart idea to wear anything but 100% cotton under your leathers. If you fall off and slide, the heat generated by friction can (and has) melted synthetics worn under leathers (the gentleman who was telling us that, mentioned something about the elastic waist on his underware melting to his body.. ouch :( ) Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 11:12:39 1999 Return-Path: SuazoT@XXXXXX Received: from seg-pdc.seg-inc.com (mail.seg-inc.com [207.96.22.190]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08723 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by SEG-PDC with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:11:51 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Suazo, Tony" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Help Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:11:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Hello all, I just got back from Korea. I was there for about two weeks. Got in on Friday, and I took my motorcycle to Fast Lanes to get my chain tightened Saturday morning. I don't know if my brain was still in Korea driving mode or I was suffering from Jet Lag, but I just didn't have my thinking cap on. I got onto 66 at the Vienna Metro on ramp, and I was pulled over by the next exit which is for 123. Unfortunate for me, I was doing more than just a speeding ticket. Does anyone know of a good lawyer? Hopefully, one that isn't too expensive. I really appreciate any help or advice. Tony Suazo CBR600 F3 tony.suazo@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 11:15:26 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08803 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:15:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:15:18 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Lets get this ball a rollin.. Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:15:02 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Ok, CCS racing this weekend, 4/24~25. DC-Cycles Racing will be out there, hopefully with a bit more force than this last weekend (even though 2 of the riders are still disabled.. heh, I'm a disabled - can I park in the handicap spots?). Look for our Banner flying on the canopy.. right across from the bathrooms, just near winners circle (what, it ain't no stinkin circle!). We're looking for our first wins of the year in both the middle weight and heavy weight classes. If you need directions, they can be found through http://marrc.nova.org - as well as other information about motorcycle roadracing and cornerworking. You can be involved in the activities at the track by volunteering your time as a Cornerworker.. or helping out in the DC-Cycles Racing pits.. bring your camera and get some goo action shots of Collin and Jay (those are the only 2 racers I know of currently.. David Cross, Stephen Harris and a few others might be out and about too though!). It's $20 at the gate for the entire weekend.. camping is more than available. the night life at the track is worth hanging out for on Saturday night. The whole experience is a lot of fun! So, come on out and join us - the next race after this isn't for another month!! Brian - DC-Cycles Racing (manager/pit dude/mechanic/loud mouth) From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 11:30:58 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09066 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:30:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 15:30:56 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA08237 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:30:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Videos, VTRs, and Re: Help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Unfortunate for me, I was doing more than just a speeding ticket. Remember. You must always wear clothes in public, when in the US. No matter what. Speaking of which: I wanted to check out some of the very interesting looking videos from Performance Bikes, Fast Bikes, etc.. the crazy British magazines. Problem. Theyre all in PAL format, US TVs are in NTSC. No good. Does anyone have a VCR that can read PAL? A "multi format" bad boy? How does this tie into no clothes? Well there's one guy driving like a true squid on a GSXR 750 wearing his birthday suit. I want to see that. Woulda been better if it was a girl, but hey, I'll settle. And also: The bastard who was going to sell me his VTR backed out. Said his son liked it too much. I asked him why he put it up for sale if he didn't want to sell it. He didn't have much of an answer. I *had* a signed letter of intent, but.. the guy was somewhat nice about it, and was really apologetic. Dunno, I guess we chalk that one up to bullcrap. So, I'm kinda interested in the bad boy in texas, but how much would it cost to ship a motorcycle 1500 miles? And how would I do it? I'm also weary about buying a bike that I haven't seen. Not that I dont believe him, just.. makes me nervous. Ah well. Maybe sooner or later I'll finally find someone who isn't a #&#* idiot and decides to &$#@ me two days before I buy their bike. Alex. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 11:48:06 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09323 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990419155112.17687.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web304.yahoomail.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:51:12 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:51:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Videos, VTRs, and Re: Help To: Alex Milenkovic Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well...not even going consider why you'd be interested in seeing the neked guy on a gsxr....... However, I was serious when I mentioned that I'd be willing to drive down to Texas ( or at least most of the way) to pick up that bike if someone is interested.. why you may ask?? Well, I have good friends living right at the halfway point that I could stop and visit, and it would give me an excuse to drop in on my own family along the way. Coincidentally, I have from May 14 through June 20th off work! It would probably cost me about $300 round trip in gas (I'll worry bout my own food and lodging). That is, assuming you'd trust me to look over the bike for you and all... Other options would be to have it shipped out here... about $300 seems to be the going rate for that as well...But... you'd have to rely on the seller that the bike is what he says it is AND hope the shippers don't hurt it in the process.. Collin _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 12:02:00 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09542 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 473; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:01:45 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990419120020.01e291c0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:01:34 -0400 To: "Suazo, Tony" , "'DC Cycles'" From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Help In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:11 AM 4/19/99 , Suazo, Tony wrote: >thinking cap on. I got onto 66 at the Vienna Metro on ramp, and I was >pulled over by the next >exit which is for 123. > >Unfortunate for me, I was doing more than just a speeding ticket. Does >anyone know of a good >lawyer? Hopefully, one that isn't too expensive. I really appreciate any >help or advice. So - were you with a bunch of friends? Was that you I saw on the side of the road? You can't just tell us you were doing more than speeding - spill the beans! Was this major squidly activity or what?!? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Suing the gun companies for wrongful death is akin to suing Indy car sponsers for 'making' you speed" From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 12:02:22 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09553 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990419160857.11436.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web307.yahoomail.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:08:57 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:08:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Backing out To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > The bastard who was going to sell me his VTR backed out. Said > his son liked it too much. I asked him why he put it up for sale > if he didn't want to sell it. He didn't have much of an answer. > I *had* a signed letter of intent, but.. the guy was somewhat > nice about it, and was really apologetic. Dunno, I guess we chalk > that one up to bullcrap. This happened to me twice when I went to buy my first bike (Honda Nighthawk 700-SC, '84 or '85). The first guy I was going to buy from (I looked at it twice and was going to make an offer) called and said his car broke down, he couldn't afford to fix it, so he was going to use the bike. The second guy and I worked out a price, shook hands on it, and worked out the pickup/paperwork so I would have things ready when I went into DMV. He called the night before and said his friend wanted the bike, so even though he knew it was wrong, he was backing out of the deal. (which is where I learned a handshake means nothing, get it on paper) After that I found a third Nighthawk, and everything went smoothly. So while I was a little annoyed at the first two sellers, I guess things worked out okay because I was very happy with the bike while I had it. Who knows, maybe it was fate? :-) Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 12:10:57 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09702 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA30353 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:11:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199904191611.MAA30353@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:07:27 -0400 Subject: Motorcycle Rally in June Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) I'm helping to plan an East Coast GPZ Rally, which is being held in Cass, WV on June 9th, 10th, and 11th (Wed/Thurs/Fri). We could possibly get 15-20 GPZ's there (from as far away as Quebec and FL), but all makes and models are welcome. If anyone would like more information, please email me and I'll send you the details. It's going to be great fun, and it's pretty much in our backyard (and I was NOT the one who picked the location!). :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 12:13:40 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09808 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user97.anent.com [208.195.115.97]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00653 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:07:25 -0400 Message-ID: <007d01be8a7f$d4c7dbe0$2873c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Speedo Calibration on a motorcycle? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:15:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 After getting a lovely 75/55 speeding ticket which the state trooper wrote as RECKLESS DRIVING my lawyer has recommended getting the speedo 'calibrated' on my bike. Any ideas as to who could do this in the DC metro area? (northern virginia preferably) I have a spotless driving record with 5 plus points. I really want to keep from having a reckless driving offense on it. (reckless stays on your record for 11 years!) Thanks! Bruce From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 12:16:34 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09867 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:16:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28245; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:16:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List cc: enduro.rider@XXXXXX Subject: FS: Suz DR250 Dualsport bike Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I know nothing about the bike that isn't listed below... Contact Chuck, not me... The DR250 was produced from 90-95 and the AMA price guide has retail values from $1470-2400 for those years. Someone buy the bike and join me on the trails. It's a blast! Kirk 98 Honda SuperHawk 84 Honda XR350 80 Honda CB125S ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Hey Kirk, If you know of anyone who is looking for a Suzuki DR-250, I have a sweetheart deal on one. It's less than 1500 miles, IMMACULATE condition, and comes with a helmet and gloves, and it's already street legal inspected and tagged (for VA) $1,600 That's a darn good deal, and it will go fast (I hope) page me at (301) 913-1726 (pager) (301) 601-7216 (days) or (301) 391-6539 (eves) Chuck Marler email enduro.rider@XXXXXX home page http://www.x-press.net/enduro From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 12:37:12 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10219 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:37:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 396; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:37:04 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990419123414.012e8d40@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:37:01 -0400 To: "Bruce Norton" , "DC Cycles" From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Speedo Calibration on a motorcycle? In-Reply-To: <007d01be8a7f$d4c7dbe0$2873c3d0@bruce> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What is the standard for reckless anyway? I thought it 20+ over, driving over 80, or driving in a reckless manner. I had a ticket in my cage about 8 years ago in South Carolina for "85+" but was not a reckless ticket. Had another in my cage 2 years ago on 66 going 77 - he gave me reckless. It was easy to get pushed down to just speeding by going to court (which you have to do anyway). I just wish they were more consistent. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Suing the gun companies for wrongful death is akin to suing Indy car sponsers for 'making' you speed" From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 12:39:48 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10251 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 19 Apr 1999 16:39:46 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA18782 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:39:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Speedo Calibration on a motorcycle? In-Reply-To: <007d01be8a7f$d4c7dbe0$2873c3d0@bruce> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Bruce Norton wrote: > After getting a lovely 75/55 speeding ticket which the state trooper wrote as > RECKLESS DRIVING my lawyer has recommended getting the speedo 'calibrated' on my > bike. Any ideas as to who could do this in the DC metro area? (northern virginia > preferably) I have a spotless driving record with 5 plus points. I really want > to keep from having a reckless driving offense on it. (reckless stays on your > record for 11 years!) > > Thanks! > Bruce Generally, you can plea bargain for a lower offense or a set fine. Georgia wanted to nail my friend for 110 in a 65, and a "racing" charge. He just pled no contest to a minor charge (dont even remember what it was now), paid a $500 fine, and was done with it. Seems like if you have a clean record, you can wheel and deal, but that all depends on the DA and the Judge. Alex. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 12:44:29 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10368 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user97.anent.com [208.195.115.97]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00836; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:38:12 -0400 Message-ID: <010101be8a84$22202240$2873c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" , "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Speedo Calibration on a motorcycle? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:46:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 >What is the standard for reckless anyway? I thought it 20+ over, driving >over 80, or driving in a reckless manner. I had a ticket in my cage about >8 years ago in South Carolina for "85+" but was not a reckless ticket. Had >another in my cage 2 years ago on 66 going 77 - he gave me reckless. It >was easy to get pushed down to just speeding by going to court (which you >have to do anyway). I just wish they were more consistent. Basically it's whatever the cop says is reckless. 20 or more (75/55) is reckless driving only if the cop says so. He can write just speeding if he wants. My situation was: I was in the third of four lanes droning along on a sunny day in very light traffic. Everyone was going the same speed, I guess my red bike just happened to piss him off. He radar'd me at 75 and wrote it for 75. No slack. Lawyer says if the speedo is only 1 mph off reduction should be no problem. I don't mind paying a fine. I just don't want Reckless Driving on my record for 11 years. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 12:53:41 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10588 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA08086 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA18167 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:53:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5.mcit.com [166.37.210.27]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA19755 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:52:30 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990419152847.MHZP20790@[166.41.242.214]> for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:28:47 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: Subject: RE: Speedometer Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:26:43 -0400 Message-ID: <001901be8a79$075501c0$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Hi Mitch, and anybody else interested. Your cable is most likely the culprit here. Go ahead and unscrew the cable housing at the speedometer. The cable is square where it fits into the speedometer and then tapers to cylindrical shape. Turn it with your fingers, you should feel some resistance. If not, pull on the cable. You should not be able to pull it out of its housing from above. If you can, go ahead and pull the other end off (phillips head screw driver) and pull out the rest from there. Time for a new cable. Install the new cable from the lower end of the housing and make sure you grease it up some. Todd With a phillips head screw driver, remove > -----Original Message----- > From: Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO [mailto:HolmesM@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 10:17 AM > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: Speedometer > > > This is a monstrously stupid question, but I need a virtual pat > on the head > that my thinking is clear about something. > > The speedometer on my Magna stopped working about a month ago - > odometer as > well. Haven't had time to really look at it, but connections seem tight. > > Can I just unhook the bottom end and twist it to see if the dial > turns? If > it doesn't turn, how do I know that I need a new speedometer, or > just a new > cable? If I need a new speedometer, how can I set the odometer safely? > > In my mind that seems right, but I found out a long time ago that > my mind is > not always right (SWMBO says my mind has never been right). > > Please don't make me feel too stupid, OK? > > TIA, > > Mitch Holmes > 1986 Honda VF700C > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 12:54:47 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10602 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:53:48 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:53:41 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:52:07 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Subject: Lets get this ball a rollin.. -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Brian - DC-Cycles Racing (manager/pit dude/mechanic/loud mouth) Gee Brian, isn't "loud mouth" a little harsh? How about "Bearer of Opinion?" --Joe "Bad Chicken, Good Whiskey" Nagy (Blood counts on the way back, but still not high enough for combat) From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 13:09:15 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10885 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:09:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA08309 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:08:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA18816 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:08:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:08:29 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:08:19 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:06:40 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, HolmesM@XXXXXX Subject: Speedometer -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mitch, Unscrew both ends of the cable, and you'll probably be rewarded with a two-piece inner. Then go to your dealer and bend over, 'cause they'll make you buy a whole dang cable even though you need just the inside. Least that's how Kawi does it. Joe '85 zx "Munch a speedo cable every 5k mi" 900 >>> "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" - 4/19/99 10:16 AM >>> This is a monstrously stupid question, but I need a virtual pat on the head that my thinking is clear about something. The speedometer on my Magna stopped working about a month ago - odometer as well. Haven't had time to really look at it, but connections seem tight. Can I just unhook the bottom end and twist it to see if the dial turns? If it doesn't turn, how do I know that I need a new speedometer, or just a new cable? If I need a new speedometer, how can I set the odometer safely? In my mind that seems right, but I found out a long time ago that my mind is not always right (SWMBO says my mind has never been right). Please don't make me feel too stupid, OK? TIA, Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda VF700C From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 13:28:29 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11262 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:49:49 EST Message-Id: <199904190949.AA3277114@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Yamaha ST??? X-Mailer: Heard an intersting tidbit off of the LDrider list. Rumor has it that Yamaha is considering entering the burgeoning Sport Tourer market with a shaft-driven bike and an engine based off of the re-tuned for more midrange R1 powerplant. I also heard that the bike would tip the scales at under 500 pounds (the Connie is what, 600 dry?). Could this be the "Short Tourer" that is amazingly absent in this market, suitable for riders shorter in stature? Will it herald the return of the naked standard shaftie, which is also missing? Will it come with hardbags? Or will it's beauty be hidden underneath flimsy plastic panels? Stay tuned, my friends. 2000 promises to be an interesting year... Dale (the Horkster) -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - Her's. Mine. Ours. :) 1987 Suzuki Savage - Unretired. 1998 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer - RIP :( -- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 13:41:14 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11460 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:41:12 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id NAA18486; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:41:37 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa17972; Mon, 19 Apr 99 13:41:17 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FAG006V36IWMR@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:42:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256758.0060FF73 ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:39:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:29:42 -0400 Subject: Re: Videos, VTRs, and Re: Help To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256758.005BE6AB.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Performance Bikes puts out at least one of their videos in NTSC format. I know, because I have a copy of it - "Performance Bikes - Lost in France". It's not the one with a naked guy on a gixxer though. (Good thing too) Chris Weaver I wanted to check out some of the very interesting looking videos from Performance Bikes, Fast Bikes, etc.. the crazy British magazines. Problem. Theyre all in PAL format, US TVs are in NTSC. No good. Does anyone have a VCR that can read PAL? A "multi format" bad boy? How does this tie into no clothes? Well there's one guy driving like a true squid on a GSXR 750 wearing his birthday suit. I want to see that. Woulda been better if it was a girl, but hey, I'll settle. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 13:49:44 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11683 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:49:42 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id NAA28777; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:50:48 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma028255; Mon, 19 Apr 99 13:50:14 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FAG008G56XTSK@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:51:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256758.0061D14E ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:48:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:39:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Speedo Calibration on a motorcycle? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256758.005CC5D1.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Bruce, I don't think you can calibrate a motorcycle speedo like you can with cars. FWIW, usually motorcycle speedos read higher than the actual speed anyway, so you won't gain any bargaining points anyway. If you want to be sure how fast you're going in the future, you can install a bicycle speedo (Sigma BC700, BC800 & BC1100 are the best for this purpose). These are much more accurate than stock speedos, which often show a 10% higher speed than the bike is actually going. Chris After getting a lovely 75/55 speeding ticket which the state trooper wrote as RECKLESS DRIVING my lawyer has recommended getting the speedo 'calibrated' on my bike. Any ideas as to who could do this in the DC metro area? (northern virginia preferably) I have a spotless driving record with 5 plus points. I really want to keep from having a reckless driving offense on it. (reckless stays on your record for 11 years!) Thanks! Bruce ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 14:06:41 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12138 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:05:46 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F538702@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Speedo Calibration on a motorcycle? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:04:59 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) All, there are a bunch of different ways and charges that go along with Reckless Driving in VA. There is Reckless - Speeding, Reckless - Losing control of a vehicle, etc. On the Reckless - Speeding thing its pretty much 20 over EXCEPT in a 65 MPH zone because part of the law states you are driving Recklessly if you are doing over 80 regardless of the speed limit. Anyhow, you can be charged with reckless for wrecking your bike into a ditch, running past a stopped school bus, lighting up your tires among other things. I had the fine pleasure of reading the entire traffic code one day at my buddies law office and tried to remember much of it. Glenn >What is the standard for reckless anyway? I thought it 20+ over, driving >over 80, or driving in a reckless manner. I had a ticket in my cage about >8 years ago in South Carolina for "85+" but was not a reckless ticket. Had >another in my cage 2 years ago on 66 going 77 - he gave me reckless. It >was easy to get pushed down to just speeding by going to court (which you >have to do anyway). I just wish they were more consistent. >Basically it's whatever the cop says is reckless. 20 or more (75/55) is reckless >driving only if the cop says so. He can write just speeding if he wants. My >situation was: I was in the third of four lanes droning along on a sunny day in >very light traffic. Everyone was going the same speed, I guess my red bike just >happened to piss him off. He radar'd me at 75 and wrote it for 75. No slack. >Lawyer says if the speedo is only 1 mph off reduction should be no problem. I >don't mind paying a fine. I just don't want Reckless Driving on my record for 11 >years. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 15:22:44 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA13575 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id PAA03939; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:22:38 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id PAA09475; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:22:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:22:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Motorcycle Rally in June In-Reply-To: <199904191611.MAA30353@radagast.wizard.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is this primarily a 1100 GPZ rally? I'm on a mailing list for 650/750 KZs, GPZs, and ZRs (basically the same engine) and will post the rally information to that list if you would like. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 17:03:46 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA15343 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA12611 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA27309 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:03:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id VAA26309; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:03:57 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990419210328.ZOHB20027@toddnt>; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:03:28 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "JOE NAGY" , , Subject: RE: Speedometer -Reply Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:01:23 -0400 Message-ID: <000301be8aa7$c7f55c30$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Better still, if you don't mind used. Baltimore Cycle Salvage, Baltimore. H&H Cycles in Woodbridge. Call around. Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: JOE NAGY [mailto:NAGYJ@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 1:07 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; HolmesM@XXXXXX > Subject: Speedometer -Reply > > > Mitch, > > Unscrew both ends of the cable, and you'll probably be rewarded with a > two-piece inner. Then go to your dealer and bend over, 'cause they'll > make you buy a whole dang cable even though you need just the inside. > Least that's how Kawi does it. > > Joe > '85 zx "Munch a speedo cable every 5k mi" 900 > > >>> "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" - 4/19/99 > 10:16 AM >>> > This is a monstrously stupid question, but I need a virtual pat on the > head > that my thinking is clear about something. > > The speedometer on my Magna stopped working about a month ago - odometer > as > well. Haven't had time to really look at it, but connections seem > tight. > > Can I just unhook the bottom end and twist it to see if the dial turns? > If > it doesn't turn, how do I know that I need a new speedometer, or just a > new > cable? If I need a new speedometer, how can I set the odometer safely? > > In my mind that seems right, but I found out a long time ago that my > mind is > not always right (SWMBO says my mind has never been right). > > Please don't make me feel too stupid, OK? > > TIA, > > Mitch Holmes > 1986 Honda VF700C > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 18:53:40 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA17216 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:53:39 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id QAA15607; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:50:55 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma014686; Mon, 19 Apr 99 16:49:48 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FAG005KXF92PZ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256758.0072411C ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:47:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:19:35 -0400 Subject: Speeding Ticket Site To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256758.006B774E.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I forgot who it was that started the thread about needing a lawyer and other speeding ticket info... Check out http://www.speedingticket.net/ for attorney info and other tips & tricks, etc. Chris Weaver 98 Superhawk ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 19:37:05 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17860 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:37:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id TAA03620; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:36:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:36:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" cc: "'dc'" Subject: Re: Lets get this ball a rollin.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Brian - Do you have a schedule of events for the races this weekend? I've never been up for a CCS race, and am going to go! I'm picking up my new bike on Sat from gaithersburg, so I was wondering how late things ran. THanks, - Brian Roach From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 19:41:28 1999 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17873 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:41:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net [208.220.25.212] by tidalwave.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id AC001F0128; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:03:12 EST Message-ID: <371BBF15.B99FA65F@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:41:09 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: [Fwd: HWY PEGS] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C010434E923D081570BB7C08" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C010434E923D081570BB7C08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A question for the racers on the list - ever heard of these things? We're trying to figure out how to adapt these to the Concours... Dale David Mamanakis wrote: > > I was watching some bike racing last week, and I noticed something they use > to prevent fairing damage...it would require 2 or 3 neat 1" or 1 1/2" holes > in each side of the fairing...but it would look OK and protect the fairing > against major damage in case of a spill or tip over. > > They are little round (maybe nylon) "posts" that extend just a little out of > the fairing. When the bike slides or tips over, it hits these nylon > cylinders instead of the fairing. I am in the process of figuring out where > the best place for them would be, how many for sure and how far they will > need to stick out...then I was going to go talk to an extruder, and see how > much it would cost to manufacture these cylinders... -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours - Hers. Mine. Ours. :) 1987 Suzuki Savage - Back into Service for a little while longer. 1998 Kawasaki Concours - RIP --------------C010434E923D081570BB7C08 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from moto.micapeak.com [207.53.128.12] by tidalwave.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id A68B300FA; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:39:55 EST Received: from moto.micapeak.com (listproc@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moto.micapeak.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA06896; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:39:43 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:39:43 -0700 Message-Id: <014901be8a8c$affbc580$5db1cc8d@dmamanakpc.nwest.attws.com.> Errors-To: cog-owner@XXXXXX Reply-To: NeaEfialtis@XXXXXX Originator: cog@XXXXXX Sender: cog@XXXXXX Precedence: bulk From: "David Mamanakis" To: Concours Owners Group Subject: Re: HWY PEGS X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0 -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Concours Owners Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RCPT-TO: >>>snip>>>Ah yes Jim Palvis suggested that I look into tipover protection similar to the ST1100. Any intrest?<<; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:33:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990420003526.8933.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.111.139] by web308.yahoomail.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:35:26 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 17:35:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Lets get this ball a rollin.. To: Brian Roach , "McCoy, Brian NAB02" Cc: "'dc'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't have an exact schedule handy, but things are generally about the same... Practice sessions start at 0800... racing starts around 1200... Regular races end around 1700-1730 or so with the rider school hot laps and race right after...same general idear on sunday... I should have two races each day... Collin --- Brian Roach wrote: > Brian - > > Do you have a schedule of events for the races this weekend? > > I've never been up for a CCS race, and am going to go! I'm picking > up my new bike on Sat from gaithersburg, so I was wondering how late > things ran. > > THanks, > - Brian Roach > > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 21:13:44 1999 Return-Path: jirsak@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA19251 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from poboxes.com (207-172-75-35.s35.tnt3.man.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.75.35]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA17231 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <371BD4C3.E1A7303E@poboxes.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:13:39 -0400 From: jirsak Reply-To: jirsak@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Speedometer -Reply References: <000301be8aa7$c7f55c30$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Or, if you prefer, you can call the folks at Manchester Honda (1.800.348.0070). There, you can get OEM parts for wholesale. I use them for all my Civic parts, and for my recently purchased 85 VF700C parts (they handle parts for all Honda stuff generator, cars, & bikes). FWIW, I just had to buy a new speedo as the threaded nipple was sheared off. Dealer price is $218.87, wholesale was $188.23. Minus the shipping charge, it was a savings of $24 dollars. Of course they, if it's a cheap part, I'll try to get it local. Bottom line, they offer great service, and can find just about any part needed without knowing the exact part number (a good description is all they need). Happy hunting. Jay 85 Honda VF700C p.s. I'm new to the list and must say that you all seem like an excellent group of folks. I can't wait to get out on a group ride and put faces with the names. Todd Peer wrote: > Better still, if you don't mind used. Baltimore Cycle Salvage, Baltimore. > H&H Cycles in Woodbridge. Call around. > > Todd > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: JOE NAGY [mailto:NAGYJ@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 1:07 PM > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; HolmesM@XXXXXX > > Subject: Speedometer -Reply > > > > > > Mitch, > > > > Unscrew both ends of the cable, and you'll probably be rewarded with a > > two-piece inner. Then go to your dealer and bend over, 'cause they'll > > make you buy a whole dang cable even though you need just the inside. > > Least that's how Kawi does it. > > > > Joe > > '85 zx "Munch a speedo cable every 5k mi" 900 > > > > >>> "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" - 4/19/99 > > 10:16 AM >>> > > This is a monstrously stupid question, but I need a virtual pat on the > > head > > that my thinking is clear about something. > > > > The speedometer on my Magna stopped working about a month ago - odometer > > as > > well. Haven't had time to really look at it, but connections seem > > tight. > > > > Can I just unhook the bottom end and twist it to see if the dial turns? > > If > > it doesn't turn, how do I know that I need a new speedometer, or just a > > new > > cable? If I need a new speedometer, how can I set the odometer safely? > > > > In my mind that seems right, but I found out a long time ago that my > > mind is > > not always right (SWMBO says my mind has never been right). > > > > Please don't make me feel too stupid, OK? > > > > TIA, > > > > Mitch Holmes > > 1986 Honda VF700C > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 21:17:19 1999 Return-Path: jirsak@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA19292 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from poboxes.com (207-172-75-35.s35.tnt3.man.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.75.35]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19270 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:25:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <371BD590.93EC7D14@poboxes.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:17:04 -0400 From: jirsak Reply-To: jirsak@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Speedometer -Reply References: <000301be8aa7$c7f55c30$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> <371BD4C3.E1A7303E@poboxes.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------1BC14C4201588CDA04BA1261" --------------1BC14C4201588CDA04BA1261 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forgot to add this, you can find them on the web here ----> www.manhonda.com jirsak wrote: > Or, if you prefer, you can call the folks at Manchester Honda > (1.800.348.0070). There, you can get OEM parts for wholesale. I use them for > all my Civic parts, and for my recently purchased 85 VF700C parts (they handle > parts for all Honda stuff generator, cars, & bikes). FWIW, I just had to buy > a new speedo as the threaded nipple was sheared off. Dealer price is $218.87, > wholesale was $188.23. Minus the shipping charge, it was a savings of $24 > dollars. Of course they, if it's a cheap part, I'll try to get it local. > Bottom line, they offer great service, and can find just about any part needed > without knowing the exact part number (a good description is all they need). > Happy hunting. > > Jay > 85 Honda VF700C > > p.s. I'm new to the list and must say that you all seem like an excellent > group of folks. I can't wait to get out on a group ride and put faces with the > names. > > Todd Peer wrote: > > > Better still, if you don't mind used. Baltimore Cycle Salvage, Baltimore. > > H&H Cycles in Woodbridge. Call around. > > > > Todd > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: JOE NAGY [mailto:NAGYJ@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 1:07 PM > > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; HolmesM@XXXXXX > > > Subject: Speedometer -Reply > > > > > > > > > Mitch, > > > > > > Unscrew both ends of the cable, and you'll probably be rewarded with a > > > two-piece inner. Then go to your dealer and bend over, 'cause they'll > > > make you buy a whole dang cable even though you need just the inside. > > > Least that's how Kawi does it. > > > > > > Joe > > > '85 zx "Munch a speedo cable every 5k mi" 900 > > > > > > >>> "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" - 4/19/99 > > > 10:16 AM >>> > > > This is a monstrously stupid question, but I need a virtual pat on the > > > head > > > that my thinking is clear about something. > > > > > > The speedometer on my Magna stopped working about a month ago - odometer > > > as > > > well. Haven't had time to really look at it, but connections seem > > > tight. > > > > > > Can I just unhook the bottom end and twist it to see if the dial turns? > > > If > > > it doesn't turn, how do I know that I need a new speedometer, or just a > > > new > > > cable? If I need a new speedometer, how can I set the odometer safely? > > > > > > In my mind that seems right, but I found out a long time ago that my > > > mind is > > > not always right (SWMBO says my mind has never been right). > > > > > > Please don't make me feel too stupid, OK? > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > Mitch Holmes > > > 1986 Honda VF700C > > > --------------1BC14C4201588CDA04BA1261 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forgot to add this, you can find them on the web here ----> www.manhonda.com

jirsak wrote:

Or, if you prefer, you can call the folks at Manchester Honda
(1.800.348.0070).  There, you can get OEM parts for wholesale.  I use them for
all my Civic parts, and for my recently purchased 85 VF700C parts (they handle
parts for all Honda stuff generator, cars, & bikes).  FWIW, I just had to buy
a new speedo as the threaded nipple was sheared off.  Dealer price is $218.87,
wholesale was $188.23.  Minus the shipping charge, it was a savings of $24
dollars.  Of course they, if it's a cheap part, I'll try to get it local.
Bottom line, they offer great service, and can find just about any part needed
without knowing the exact part number (a good description is all they need).
Happy hunting.

Jay
85 Honda VF700C

p.s.  I'm new to the list and must say that you all seem like an excellent
group of folks. I can't wait to get out on a group ride and put faces with the
names.

Todd Peer wrote:

> Better still, if you don't mind used.  Baltimore Cycle Salvage, Baltimore.
> H&H Cycles in Woodbridge.  Call around.
>
> Todd
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JOE NAGY [mailto:NAGYJ@XXXXXX]
> > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 1:07 PM
> > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; HolmesM@XXXXXX
> > Subject: Speedometer -Reply
> >
> >
> > Mitch,
> >
> > Unscrew both ends of the cable, and you'll probably be rewarded with a
> > two-piece inner.  Then go to your dealer and bend over, 'cause they'll
> > make you buy a whole dang cable even though you need just the inside.
> > Least that's how Kawi does it.
> >
> > Joe
> > '85 zx "Munch a speedo cable every 5k mi" 900
> >
> > >>> "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" <HolmesM@XXXXXX> - 4/19/99
> > 10:16 AM >>>
> > This is a monstrously stupid question, but I need a virtual pat on the
> > head
> > that my thinking is clear about something.
> >
> > The speedometer on my Magna stopped working about a month ago - odometer
> > as
> > well.  Haven't had time to really look at it, but connections seem
> > tight.
> >
> > Can I just unhook the bottom end and twist it to see if the dial turns?
> > If
> > it doesn't turn, how do I know that I need a new speedometer, or just a
> > new
> > cable?  If I need a new speedometer, how can I set the odometer safely?
> >
> > In my mind that seems right, but I found out a long time ago that my
> > mind is
> > not always right (SWMBO says my mind has never been right).
> >
> > Please don't make me feel too stupid, OK?
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Mitch Holmes
> > 1986 Honda VF700C
> >

--------------1BC14C4201588CDA04BA1261-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 21:48:19 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA19770 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:48:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990420015130.8780.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.111.139] by web304.yahoomail.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:51:30 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:51:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: [Fwd: HWY PEGS] To: Dale Horstman , DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dale, They are called frame pucks, frame sliders, frame guards, etc. INtuitive Racing, Yoshimura and Kit racing (all easily found via search engines...if you can't find them let me know and I'll get unlazy and dig up the url) sells them. Basically they are countersunk cylinders of Delrin (hard abrasion resistant plastic.... like they make cutting boards out of). On most of the sportbikes they are fitted for, they are mounted directly into the frame at an upper motor mount location using longer bolts. Intuitive also makes bar ends out of this stuff... works fine for racing (where you could care less about vibration) but I think they may not be heavy enough to put on a street bike to kill handlebar buzz.... Collin --- Dale Horstman wrote: > A question for the racers on the list - ever heard of > these things? We're trying to figure out how to adapt > these to the Concours... > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 19 21:48:23 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA19773 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990420015135.8804.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.111.139] by web304.yahoomail.com; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:51:35 PDT Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:51:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: [Fwd: HWY PEGS] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dale, They are called frame pucks, frame sliders, frame guards, etc. INtuitive Racing, Yoshimura and Kit racing (all easily found via search engines...if you can't find them let me know and I'll get unlazy and dig up the url) sells them. Basically they are countersunk cylinders of Delrin (hard abrasion resistant plastic.... like they make cutting boards out of). On most of the sportbikes they are fitted for, they are mounted directly into the frame at an upper motor mount location using longer bolts. Intuitive also makes bar ends out of this stuff... works fine for racing (where you could care less about vibration) but I think they may not be heavy enough to put on a street bike to kill handlebar buzz.... Collin --- Dale Horstman wrote: > A question for the racers on the list - ever heard of > these things? We're trying to figure out how to adapt > these to the Concours... > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 06:50:00 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA28660 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:50:25 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F53870F@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Bruce Norton'" , DC Cycles Subject: RE: Speedo Calibration on a motorcycle? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:44:45 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) That sux and Bruce and I've been there. My suggestion to you, since nobody around here does MC calibrations (that I know of) is to get that faulty speedometer cable replaced by your local Honda shop. This way you will have a receipt that the work was done. It worked for me. Glenn >After getting a lovely 75/55 speeding ticket which the state trooper wrote as >RECKLESS DRIVING my lawyer has recommended getting the speedo 'calibrated' on my >bike. Any ideas as to who could do this in the DC metro area? (northern virginia >preferably) I have a spotless driving record with 5 plus points. I really want >to keep from having a reckless driving offense on it. (reckless stays on your >record for 11 years!) From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 07:47:04 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA29384 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:47:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA22730 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA08574 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:46:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:41:34 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Speedometer Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:41:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks, everyone, for the replies. You folks are the greatest; and when everyone suggests the same thing, it helps ease my feeble mind. I'll be taking a crack at it this afternoon; I have a trip planned to Western North Carolina this weekend. Woo-Hoo! Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda Magna VF700C From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 08:54:07 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00353 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:54:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A8E4C810218; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:53:59 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990420084344.012dadf0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:46:35 -0400 To: "'dc'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Touching Pegs & Rear Braking In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:18 PM 4/16/99 , McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: >I'm not Collin.. but I might be as qualified to answer. First off, it >depends Entirely on the tires you're running. Because I have direct >experience with Dunlop 207s and Avon Azaros, I'll use these 2 tires to >describe. The Dunlops are a stiffer carcas tire - to get them to heat >properly, you need to lower the tire pressure so they flex and generate the >necessary heat to loosen the rubber from its compounding agent and stick to >the road. The Avons, because of a calculated, built in carcas flex, need to >be run at a higher pressure. The only consistent advice I've heard, that works with different bikes, tires, and years, is that the tires should heat enough to raise the tire pressure by about 10%. So set your tire pressure (with the tire cold) where the owner's manual recommends it or the tire company recommends, then go ride. Check the tire pressure when the tire's hot. Adjust the cold tire pressure as needed so your hot tire pressure is 10% greater than cold. How's that sound to you racer-types? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 08:54:11 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00356 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:54:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA23561 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:54:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA09498 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:54:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A8ECC810218; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:54:04 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990420085235.012e4d90@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:54:31 -0400 To: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Speedometer In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:16 AM 4/19/99 , Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO wrote: >This is a monstrously stupid question, but I need a virtual pat on the head >that my thinking is clear about something. > >The speedometer on my Magna stopped working about a month ago - odometer as >well. Haven't had time to really look at it, but connections seem tight. > >Can I just unhook the bottom end and twist it to see if the dial turns? The speedo is driven by magnets, not by a direct physical connection. I recommend detaching both ends and then turn one end by hand to see if the speedo cable is broken - that's the most common failure. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 09:44:05 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA01100 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:42:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <27GX805F>; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:42:09 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Tire presures Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:42:05 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > The only consistent advice I've heard, that works with > different bikes, > tires, and years, is that the tires should heat enough to > raise the tire > pressure by about 10%. > How's that sound to you racer-types? > I'll buy into that for everywhere but the track. Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 10:15:30 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA01581 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:14:28 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:14:26 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:12:51 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Touching Pegs & Rear Braking -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline >>> Chris Norloff - 4/20/99 8:46 AM >>> At 01:18 PM 4/16/99 , McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: >I'm not Collin.. but I might be as qualified to answer. First off, it >depends Entirely on the tires you're running. Because I have direct >experience with Dunlop 207s and Avon Azaros, I'll use these 2 tires to >describe. The Dunlops are a stiffer carcas tire - to get them to heat >properly, you need to lower the tire pressure so they flex and generate the >necessary heat to loosen the rubber from its compounding agent and stick to >the road. The Avons, because of a calculated, built in carcas flex, need to >be run at a higher pressure. The only consistent advice I've heard, that works with different bikes, tires, and years, is that the tires should heat enough to raise the tire pressure by about 10%. So set your tire pressure (with the tire cold) where the owner's manual recommends it or the tire company recommends, then go ride. Check the tire pressure when the tire's hot. Adjust the cold tire pressure as needed so your hot tire pressure is 10% greater than cold. How's that sound to you racer-types? Chris Norloff Sounds reasonable. FWIW, (since I have to run bias-ply and tubes on my RD) I go with 28 front and rear cold and the footpegs grind hard before I run out of tire in 5 and 6 at Summit. This year, smaller pegs. Joe (still waitng for my platelets to come up) From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 10:52:20 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02107 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:52:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA24578 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA10248 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904201451.KAA10248@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:53:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: WSB P.I. tape Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Did anyone tape the WSB at Phillips this last weekend? I couldn't get it and would love to see it (or any races for that matter...) Does anyone know if it will be broadcast on ESPN (1 or 2) or Fox sports? Thanks, Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 11:22:24 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02726 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id LAA13305 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:21:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE8B1F.5CE06750@XXXXXX>; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:17:23 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'DCC'" Subject: FW: ALA Big Ride '99 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:17:22 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This was posted on the Brit-Iron site. Please don't respond to me. I am merely forwarding this because of the recent discussion about volunteering on such rides. Respond to ewertm@XXXXXX. >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Ewert [SMTP:ewertm@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 10:42 AM >To: BRIT-IRON-L@XXXXXX >Subject: ALA Big Ride '99 > >Take a deep breath and join the crew! > >This summer, the American Lung Association (ALA) is putting on a fundraiser >called the Big Ride Across America. In it 250 bicyclists raise donations and >then ride from Seattle to Washington, D.C. We are looking for motorcycle >riders to help us ensure road safety for our bike riders. This is an >opportunity for anyone concerned about lung disease to give some support to >the ALA. > >Bikers can volunteer for the entire Big Ride (June 14-July 31) or choose >from one or more parts of the country: > >* Pacific Northwest: June 14- June 23 > >* Big Sky: June 23- July 4 > >* Heartland: July 4- July 18 > >* Big Ten: July 18- July 23 > >* Appalachians: July 23- July 31 > >Volunteer crew members will get breakfast & dinner, hot showers in camp >every day, make lots of new friends, and other benefits. There is a $25 >registration fee. Please contact me for more information. > >I look forward to hearing from you, > >Mark Ewert > >ewertm@XXXXXX >Volunteer Support Manager >American Lung Association >1999 Big Ride Across America > >Phone: (877) BIG-RIDE, WEB site: WWW.bigride.com, general e-mail: >bigride@XXXXXX. From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 11:34:24 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02950 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA06162 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5.mcit.com [166.37.210.27]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA18371; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:33:16 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990420153348.UACO989@[166.38.156.10]>; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:33:48 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Danny Thompson" , Subject: RE: WSB P.I. tape Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:31:46 -0400 Message-ID: <001101be8b42$e6d7fe50$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <199904201451.KAA10248@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal There are to FIM races and one AMA 600 series SS race on this evening on Speed Vision. Starts at 8pm Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Danny Thompson [mailto:dthompso1@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 10:54 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: WSB P.I. tape > > > Did anyone tape the WSB at Phillips this last weekend? I couldn't > get it and would love to see it (or any races for that matter...) Does > anyone know if it will be broadcast on ESPN (1 or 2) or Fox sports? > > Thanks, > Danny > '99 VFR > '93 DR 350 > From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 12:54:42 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04441 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:54:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A14ADE90218; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:54:37 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990420123732.02a49230@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:38:28 -0400 To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Tire presures In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> The only consistent advice I've heard, that works with >> different bikes, tires, and years, is that the tires should heat enough to >> raise the tire pressure by about 10%. > >> How's that sound to you racer-types? > >At 09:42 AM 4/20/99 , McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: >I'll buy into that for everywhere but the track. >Brian What sort of tire pressure increase do you see on the track? thanks, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 13:14:14 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04793 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:14:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990420171725.8248.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web304.yahoomail.com; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:17:25 PDT Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:17:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Tire presures To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Totally depends on the tire brand... The Dunlops tend to follow along with the 10% rule. The Avons go about 15% or even a little more sometimes... What I look at more than pressure increase is the wear pattern. If you are a bit too low on pressure, the tire will really peel and roll back on itself... some of that is good because it constantly keeps fresh rubber on the pavement. Too much is bad though because it makes the tires feel very greasy and slip a lot... not to mention, wearing all the rubber off very quickly. I've got a dunlop front that I ran too low right before I pulled it off due to a defect. I won't have a chance today, but tomorrow I'll take a pic of it so you can see how bad it is peeled back and shreaded... Collin ps: Is it Friday yet!!!! --- Chris Norloff wrote: > What sort of tire pressure increase do you see on the track? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 13:23:21 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04950 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A8041457015A; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:23:16 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990420131610.02a4c010@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:23:56 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: [non-mc] 18-disc CD home deck for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, all, hope you don't mind a for sale ad ... note: this is too big for a bike, even a K1200LT :-) FOR SALE Pioneer 18-disc CD deck for home stereo. model PD-TM2, works fine, looks good, 3 or more years old (not sure). Selling it because I have another CD deck that I use. Holds 18 CD's in three 6-disc magazines. Includes seven of the 6-disc magazines, and one 1-disc magazine. Includes original owners manual. Has: random play, hi-lite scan, auto fader, program, time fade, repeat. $100 Chris Norloff days (202)863-2680 x225 eves (703)534-1510 From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 15:06:02 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06876 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A01280701F4; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:05:54 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990420150540.02a680f0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:06:28 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: [non-mc] 18-disc CD home deck SOLD In-Reply-To: <85256759.0067723A.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks, folks, the CD deck is sold. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 15:33:40 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07388 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5.mcit.com [166.37.210.27]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id TAA23530 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:32:27 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990420193300.DHZR24276@[166.38.156.10]> for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:33:00 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: T-Shirts Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:30:57 -0400 Message-ID: <002501be8b64$5067c140$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal <---- T-Shirts! ----> Since Sean Sullivan is w/o wheels at the moment, I offered to take him up to Summit Point for opening day. We stopped by his parents house and picked up the much sought after DC-Cycles T-shirts. I now have them in my possession. For those of you who purchased a T-shirt, you may stop by my house this Thursday afternoon to pick it/them up. Try and make it before 8pm, but after 6pm. If you need directions to my house, just ask. I'm also going to be working corners this weekend for CCS at Summit Point. If you plan to be there too, tell me and I'll bring your shirt. <---- Didn't Order One? ----> For those of you that didn't order a shirt and now want one, I've asked Sean to give the details to the list. I don't have any extras so please don't ask if I do, or how to get any. Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 20:59:15 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12591 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer (207-172-44-107.s107.tnt3.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.44.107]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id UAA28274 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:56:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "LindaT" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: Stugis-iana Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:59:26 -0400 Message-ID: <003101be8b92$34148a40$d475accf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal A got a flyer in the mail today from Schwartz and Monahan Inc. These are the folks who sell the official Sturgis - Black Hills Motor Classic stuff. The interesting thing is the prices/sizing: S-XL - 19.95 2X 20.95 3X 21.95 or 4X 5X Ltall-3Xtall 6X-8X Call for prices Do they know their audience or what?? How big is an 8X anyway?? LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (54K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 21:12:29 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12808 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA05330 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA03198 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursulina (207-172-64-199.s199.tnt17.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.64.199]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA27851 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:20:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <009f01be8bac$c92910a0$f357accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: New bike? Advice/Suggestions appreciated Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:09:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hi ya, Time to get some more advice from my favorite bunch of bikers. :-) This evening I went to check out a 1995 CBR F3. Here's what I found: * white, purple, and neon yellow color scheme * 10,500 miles * newish Dunlops 207s front and back * lip of front rim is bent about 1 inch out of wack - probably from a tire change (is this dangerous??) * right side fairing damage (3 small cracks and scrapes but not dreadful looking) * dent in the right side of the tank from where the handle bar impact occurred * right mirror was replaced and it doesn't quite match the left one * neon yellow wind screen * everything else is stock * clean title (not salvage) The guy wants $4,200. I was thinking of offering $4K. Does that sound fair, or too much to pay? I like the bike, it fits me perfectly, and looks sweeeeet. ;-) But logical dictates that I shouldn't get attached to the bike and end up paying too much for it. What do you think? - - Ursulina 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD (I know, I know, what a change!) From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 21:27:52 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA13037 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:27:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA05468 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:27:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA03444 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:27:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (8040) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id nAQUa26763; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:27:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9b0a0915.244e8364@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:27:00 EDT Subject: Re: New bike? Advice/Suggestions appreciated To: ursulina@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/20/99 9:20:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ursulina@XXXXXX writes: << lip of front rim is bent about 1 inch out of wack - probably from a tire change (is this dangerous??) >> You can get a used (straight) wheel with rotors for about 200 bucks. Straightening costs about the same. << dent in the right side of the tank from where the handle bar impact occurred * right mirror was replaced and it doesn't quite match the left one >> Has fallen hard on right side if clip-on hit tank. <> Alot of money. You should be able to get a pristine CBR-600 for that kind of money. That's my opinion. Ciao, FRED From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 21:38:31 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA13160 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA05551 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA03612 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-77-246.s55.as4.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.77.246]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA11787 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000801be8b97$d38b5900$f64daccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: New bike? Advice/Suggestions appreciated Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:39:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 1995 CBR F3. Here's what I found: >* 10,500 miles >* newish Dunlops 207s front and back >* lip of front rim is bent about 1 inch out of wack - probably from a tire >change (is this dangerous??) >* right side fairing damage (3 small cracks and scrapes but not dreadful >looking) >* dent in the right side of the tank from where the handle bar impact >occurred >* right mirror was replaced and it doesn't quite match the left one >* neon yellow wind screen >* everything else is stock >* clean title (not salvage) > >The guy wants $4,200. I was thinking of offering $4K. Does that sound >fair, or too much to pay? Hey Ursulina, I checked the Kelley Blue Book and the retail is $5265 and the trade in is $3525 for the 95F3. I aslo checked Motorcycle Consumer news and the show the retail at $4745. The retail prices are normally for reconditioned bikes in good shape. I personally would use these numbers to come up with an average. I would also check out the ads in the papers to get an idea of what they have been selling for. My only concern would be the bent front rim. Does the bike look like it might have gone down? Make sure you take a test ride and see how it feels. I've ridden my friends F3 and they are a blast. I hope my 2 cents helps you some. Brian N (96 Yamaha FZR600) From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 20 23:23:51 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14839 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA06633 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:23:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA06100 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zellto (adsl-151-200-16-190.bellatlantic.net [151.200.16.190]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA15213; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:26:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004c01be8ba6$99e97b00$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> From: "Thomas and Jeannette" To: , , References: <9b0a0915.244e8364@aol.com> Subject: Re: New bike? Advice/Suggestions appreciated Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:25:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I would have to agree with Fred on this one. A good friend of mine is picking up a '95 with only 6k miles on it for $4k and it is absolutely beautiful. Frankly, I would be worried about the rim deal. A tire change is not going to cause damage like that. Sounds to me like it was low-sided into a curb or something (same thing happened to Jeannette's VFR before she got it). I would go looking for another deal, preferably one that does not show signs of abuse. -Tom '86 VFR750 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 9:27 PM Subject: Re: New bike? Advice/Suggestions appreciated > In a message dated 4/20/99 9:20:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > ursulina@XXXXXX writes: > > << lip of front rim is bent about 1 inch out of wack - probably from a tire > change (is this dangerous??) >> > You can get a used (straight) wheel with rotors for about 200 bucks. > Straightening costs about the same. > > > << dent in the right side of the tank from where the handle bar impact > occurred > * right mirror was replaced and it doesn't quite match the left one >> > > Has fallen hard on right side if clip-on hit tank. > > < fair, or too much to pay?>> > > Alot of money. You should be able to get a pristine CBR-600 for that kind of > money. > > That's my opinion. > > Ciao, > FRED > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 01:10:44 1999 Return-Path: kwoods@XXXXXX Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA16277 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:10:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by kens.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-mod-for-majordomo) with ESMTP id BAA02529; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:10:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Woods To: Jay Goddard cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , mrcengr@XXXXXX, cbxturbo@XXXXXX, bgsbny@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Wanted: Nice Curves In-Reply-To: <3714AA70.46E0FD17@boo.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try Rt 50, up and over Mt. Storm, into the metropolis of Davis, WV. On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Jay Goddard wrote: > I will be taking a few days this summer to ride the curves in West Va.. > Please send me your advice on roads, motels and places to eat. If you > know of any web pages that might help me that would be cool too. > > Thanks!! > > Jay > -- Ken Woods kwoods@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 03:37:19 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA19036 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:37:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA10064 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA09423 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA08377 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:37:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust038.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.38]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA29127 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:39:02 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990421033751.006a7d54@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:37:51 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Summit Point on Sunday Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I probably missed this one earlier, but who's riding to the races on Sunday? When/where are you leaving from? Any place between Dale City and Anita's Burger King (Rt7 at 28) would be ideal for me. I won't be on the John Deere, so a slower group will be just fine. Leon. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 07:02:21 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA22135 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:01:50 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F538778@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'LindaT'" , DC-CYCLES Subject: RE: Stugis-iana Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:01:50 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Linda, 8X is huge. I saw one of these out in Sperryville one time. It must have been four - five feet across! So how many shirts did you order? Glenn >A got a flyer in the mail today from Schwartz and Monahan Inc. These are >the folks who sell the official Sturgis - Black Hills Motor Classic stuff. >The interesting thing is the prices/sizing: >S-XL - 19.95 >2X 20.95 >3X 21.95 >or >4X 5X >Ltall-3Xtall >6X-8X Call for prices >Do they know their audience or what?? How big is an 8X anyway?? From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 07:09:49 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA22226 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:09:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:09:33 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: New bike? Advice/Suggestions appreciated Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:09:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > << lip of front rim is bent about 1 inch out of wack - > probably from a tire > change (is this dangerous??) >> > You can get a used (straight) wheel with rotors for about 200 bucks. > Straightening costs about the same. Actually, wheels (of the F2/F3 kind) only run about 100~125 - and Ye Olde Wheele Shope does straightening for $100 a wheel for minor bends. No need for her to get one with rotors on it.. which means that one can be found for 75.. or, if you're lucky.. someone you know may already have one laying around.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 08:53:20 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA23529 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA13163 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:53:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA13596 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:53:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id IAA11855 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE8BD5.F2AD6F60@XXXXXX>; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:04:22 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'Horkster@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE --> Fwd: HWY PEGS Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:04:21 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<>> <> Competition accessories carries them (Derlin slider thingys). I can't remember how much they cost. I am also trying to figure out a way to mount them on my VFR but, with the side radiators and no side fairing openings like a GSXR, I think it to be impossible. Let us know what you figure out. John 98 VFR From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 09:56:40 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA24368 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990421140354.23614.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web307.yahoomail.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:03:54 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:03:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: RE: New bike? Advice/Suggestions appreciated To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Speaking of F3 wheels.. there is a guy on the EX and Race list that has a set for sale..probably pretty cheap.. he was looking to trade them for a set of 17" EX wheels, but had no takers... if anyone is interested, let me know and I'll forward his message to you... Collin --- "McCoy, Brian NAB02" wrote: > Actually, wheels (of the F2/F3 kind) only run about 100~125 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 10:17:49 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24742 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:17:47 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA08989; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:18:49 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma008051; Wed, 21 Apr 99 10:17:40 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FAJ00JT4MF2FX@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:18:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525675A.004E4FC8 ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:15:22 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:35:42 -0400 Subject: 97 Katana for sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525675A.004BFDEF.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I found this on the VTR list. It's in the northern Va. area. Contact them, not me. http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/3972/ Chris Weaver VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 10:25:40 1999 Return-Path: redbelly@XXXXXX Received: from helix.nih.gov (helix.nih.gov [128.231.2.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24845 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:25:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from boo.net ([156.40.49.10]) by helix.nih.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA371276; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <371DDFB3.213B4641@boo.net> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:24:51 -0400 From: Jay Goddard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , david g , Mike C , swifty Subject: Good news Crow Bar is down but not out Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There will be a Crow Bar Memorial Day Party. Check out there web page for details http://www.crowbardc.com/. No news on a new building yet. Jay Red belly rides again!!!! From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 10:53:05 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25278 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:53:03 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA10816; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:53:27 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma009602; Wed, 21 Apr 99 10:51:13 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FAJ0069JNYCKN@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525675A.00515BDA ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:48:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:21:56 -0400 Subject: Help Me Plan BRP/Deals Gap Trip? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525675A.00503432.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hi everyone. I'm currently planning a trip down the Skyline Drive/Blue Ridge Parkway and then possibly to Deal's Gap. I'm thinking I'll probably do it in May or June, possibly in conjunction with a day or two at the Honda Hoot in Asheville, NC. I'm hoping that those that have done this trip could give me some advice, both general and specific, for the trip. I'm hoping for some help with sightseeing spots, good roads, and good campgrounds or hotels/motels along the way. Are there any "must sees" along the way? Also, if two or three other dc-cyclers are interested in making it a group trip, I might be interested. Taking the trip with others might make it more fun. Thanks to anyone who can help, Chris Weaver VTR 1000 (break-in complete! woohoo!) ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 10:57:59 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25177 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ringding.cs.umd.edu (ringding.cs.umd.edu [128.8.126.2]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15291 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:44:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by ringding.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA28937 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA09105; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:40:27 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990421144351.MSOD20027@toddnt>; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:43:51 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Ursulina Viteri" , "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: New bike? Advice/Suggestions appreciated Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:41:35 -0400 Message-ID: <001901be8c05$0e2e40f0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <009f01be8bac$c92910a0$f357accf@ursulina> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > The guy wants $4,200. I was thinking of offering $4K. Does that sound > fair, or too much to pay? > > I like the bike, it fits me perfectly, and looks sweeeeet. ;-) But logical > dictates that I shouldn't get attached to the bike and end up paying too > much for it. What do you think? Keep looking. There are so many F3s on the market you shouldn't have any trouble finding one in better shape that hasn't already been crashed (this one has by the sound of it). Todd From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 11:35:40 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26065 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:35:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA06141; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:33:56 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990421153429.NGDX20027@toddnt>; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:34:29 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Jay Goddard" , Subject: RE: Good news Crow Bar is down but not out Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:32:13 -0400 Message-ID: <002301be8c0c$20f054b0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <371DDFB3.213B4641@boo.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Got this from Bill the other day, and just neglected to post it. If you've never been to one of the Crow Bars block parties, you don't know what you're missing. Harley Davidsons are WAY over-represented and there is more leather and chains and ripped jeans then in a bad moto-exploitation film, but this is a PARTY all the same. Everyone is generally cool, the bands are good and the tattoo contest is usually won by the girl with the biggest tits (if she shows them). Hey its a voice/applause vote, I don't make the rules. Todd ------------------- So it's been way to long since I've sent any mail. It makes me sad that I don't see people as much as I did when Crow Bar was open. Any way, I'm not going to weigh you down with the stories of trying to sign a lease but I am going to tell you that our block party will happen! Crow Bar Memorial Block Party V Saturday May 29, 1999 This is my chance to see everyone that I haven't seen for over 10 months. I hope you'll show up. We're just finishing up all the details and I'll send out more info as it comes. I do know we'll have 5 blues bands perform this year. If you are a local to DC, May 29 is the same day that the WHFSestival will happen up in Baltimore. I'm just throwing this out now because if you don't want to wait in line all night, pay $25 and travel to Baltimore, there'll be a party happening the same day in DC. ONE MORE NOTE BEFORE I GO. To all the DC locals that came to the Crow Bar. I personally am getting sick of going to Adams Morgan or the 18th & Conn. Ave. area. (Too may people, not enough parking spaces) I'm trying to get a Saturday night party going. It would be in the downtown area. The dj would play rock-dance music that you don't hear on the radio. I personally am sick of all the top-40 music that I hear when I go out to drink. If you think this is a cool idea, please drop me a line so I can tell if there are enough people that think like me. Peace, Love and Rock N Roll to everyone!! Bill Spieler > -----Original Message----- > From: Jay Goddard [mailto:redbelly@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 10:25 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; david g; Mike C; swifty > Subject: Good news Crow Bar is down but not out > > > There will be a Crow Bar Memorial Day Party. Check out there web page > for details http://www.crowbardc.com/. No news on a new building yet. > > Jay > Red belly rides again!!!! > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 11:35:55 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26074 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:35:09 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:35:01 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:33:19 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, zx@XXXXXX Subject: shock for '85 Ninja 900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Anyone got any experience, good, bad or ugly, with Bitubo shocks? Getting hard to find domestic stuff for the old beast. Only other options appear to be Hagon (UK) or WP (from White Bros). Thanks. Joe 1985 Ninja 900 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 11:37:33 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (web801.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.61]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26084 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990421154142.24579.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:41:42 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:41:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Reply-To: horkster@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Help Me Plan BRP/Deals Gap Trip? To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > I'm hoping that those that have done this trip could give me some > advice, both general and specific, for the trip. It's a nice day trip. About 1100 miles if you take the main highways down, and run through Deal's Gap a few times. Made the complete roundtrip in about 20 hours... Got this nice award from the IronButt Association, too... :) > I'm hoping for some help with sightseeing spots, good roads, > and good campgrounds or hotels/motels along the way. Are there any > "must sees" along the way? Oh, you wanna take your time going down! That's cool, too. I think it would be cool going the length of Skyline and BRP, and checking out Deals' Gap and the surrounding area again, at a more leisurely pace... === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 12:12:14 1999 Return-Path: bpape@XXXXXX Received: from gholam.ph.ucla.edu (bpape@[128.97.120.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26789 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (bpape@localhost) by gholam.ph.ucla.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA31007; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:12:11 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:12:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Pape To: zx@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: shock for '85 Ninja 900 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, JOE NAGY wrote: > Anyone got any experience, good, bad or ugly, with Bitubo shocks? > Getting hard to find domestic stuff for the old beast. Only other > options appear to be Hagon (UK) or WP (from White Bros). Thanks. I emailed them when I was looking for a shock for the 10. They were very kind and extremely polite, and responded right away. I ended up getting a Penske because it was easier than figuring out how to get money to them overseas. You might want to check out Penske, because they will evidentally build a shock for almost any bike (supposedly it's custom made when you order it, which is why it takes 2 months to get). From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 12:26:31 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27031 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA19335 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:26:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:26:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Help Me Plan BRP/Deals Gap Trip? In-Reply-To: <8525675A.00503432.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > I'm hoping for some help with sightseeing spots, good roads, and good > campgrounds or hotels/motels along the way. Are there any "must sees" > along the way? Check out http://members.nova.org/~kirk/echr/camping.htm for info on the Blue Ridge Motorcycle Campground, right off the BRP in NC. There's also Two Wheels Only in GA, although I don't have a web page for that one... The roads up and over the BRP are better for sporty bike riding than the BRP itself. The BRP is really not very twisty, is a major sightseeing route, has low speed limits, etc... One thing the BRP does have is many tunnels. If you have a loud bike these can provide some fun... ;) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 12:39:59 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27364 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:39:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8Q9PKQ8; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:36:13 EDT To: djones@XXXXXX Cc: thunderacelist@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: What To Wear Under Full Leathers? Message-ID: <19990417.181138.4495.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <85256757.000186E3.00@lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-14 From: Bikes R Us Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:36:13 EDT Wear something made of lace and silk. Makes you feel pretty! JohnDavid@Bikes R Us Hey, I'm straight. This is a joke, okay? On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:20:18 -0400 djones@XXXXXX writes: >Since I just purchased my first set of leathers, I'm wondering what >people >normally wear under them during warm weather. I was considering long >runners pants & top (spandex). Any other suggestions? > >Later, DJ >97' Yamaha YZF1000R > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 12:40:09 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27371 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8Q9PKR2; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:36:13 EDT To: ljtanner@XXXXXX Cc: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Stugis-iana Message-ID: <19990417.181139.4495.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <003101be8b92$34148a40$d475accf@oemcomputer> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4-10 From: Bikes R Us Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:36:13 EDT I'm about 5'8" and 150lbs. For Halloween a few years ago, a friend of mine and I went as a two-headed biker, wearing one of those 8x shirts. There was plenty of room in the head hole for our two necks; the shoulder seams were at our elbows; and the tail of the shirt was at our knees. You could use one as a cover for your bike, almost... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:59:26 -0400 "LindaT" writes: >Do they know their audience or what?? How big is an 8X anyway?? ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 12:48:50 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27535 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA17288 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:48:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23119 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8Q9PKSU; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:36:13 EDT To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Cc: ursulina@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New bike? Advice/Suggestions appreciated Message-ID: <19990417.181139.4495.2.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <001901be8c05$0e2e40f0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 9-12,14-33 From: Bikes R Us Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:36:13 EDT I'd have to agree. There are a million F3s around. You just have to be patient and wait for the right deal. What I like to do is to find one I like and offer the guy way less than he's asking. A lot of times they'll be offended and say "no." I just say, "Well, if you change your mind, here's my number." You'd be surprised how many people call back. The get desperate for the money and my $2500 looks better than the $4000 they were asking and not getting. It works. You just have to remember that he needs to sell it more than you need to buy it... And don't buy one with crash damage. There are plenty around without damage to choose from. If I hear of one, I'll let you know. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:41:35 -0400 "Todd Peer" writes: > >> The guy wants $4,200. I was thinking of offering $4K. Does that >sound >> fair, or too much to pay? >> >> I like the bike, it fits me perfectly, and looks sweeeeet. ;-) But >logical >> dictates that I shouldn't get attached to the bike and end up paying >too >> much for it. What do you think? > >Keep looking. There are so many F3s on the market you shouldn't have >any >trouble finding one in better shape that hasn't already been crashed >(this >one has by the sound of it). > >Todd > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 13:27:39 1999 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28189 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:22:11 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Help Me Plan BRP/Deals Gap Trip? Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:22:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Too bad that you're not doing it this weekend. I'm heading to Asheville either Friday or Saturday, depending on the weather. (Now where's that speedometer cable?) Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda Magna -----Original Message----- From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX [mailto:christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 10:22 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Help Me Plan BRP/Deals Gap Trip? Hi everyone. I'm currently planning a trip down the Skyline Drive/Blue Ridge Parkway and then possibly to Deal's Gap. I'm thinking I'll probably do it in May or June, possibly in conjunction with a day or two at the Honda Hoot in Asheville, NC. I'm hoping that those that have done this trip could give me some advice, both general and specific, for the trip. I'm hoping for some help with sightseeing spots, good roads, and good campgrounds or hotels/motels along the way. Are there any "must sees" along the way? Also, if two or three other dc-cyclers are interested in making it a group trip, I might be interested. Taking the trip with others might make it more fun. Thanks to anyone who can help, Chris Weaver VTR 1000 (break-in complete! woohoo!) ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 13:48:42 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil ([137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28512 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <27GX0XGG>; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:46:50 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: New bike? Advice/Suggestions appreciated Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:38:22 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Funny.. this works awefully well in a lot of cases (I ask a lot in the fall) - I can usually get them to drop to half their asking price.. kinda why I always seem to have bikes coming out my ears. good advice though. > find one I > like and offer the guy way less than he's asking. A lot of > times they'll > be offended and say "no." I just say, "Well, if you change your mind, > here's my number." You'd be surprised how many people call > back. The get > desperate for the money and my $2500 looks better than the $4000 they > were asking and not getting. It works. You just have to > remember that he > needs to sell it more than you need to buy it... And don't From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 16:20:53 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01316 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990421202934.9652.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web303.yahoomail.com; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:29:34 PDT Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:29:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: shock for '85 Ninja 900 To: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, zx@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Funny how I was just talking about Bitubo's products to some of the WSDY gang.... >From some of my acquantances, the scoop I hear is that you get Ohlins features and performance/quality, at Fox prices... sounded great to me, but I couldn't find a distributor at the time and with race season rapidly approaching, I ended up going with a used Fox that I got at a great price. Here's the info I sent to the WSDY guys: Also, an italian company called Bitubo makes dampers and shocks too... www.bitubo.com I probably would have gone with them for my race bikes rear shock had I had a decent US contact.... but I didn't... I have since found said contact, see info at: http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcdaily/day0175.html Let me know what you learn about these guys, as I am very interested in them for future uses.. Collin --- JOE NAGY wrote: > Anyone got any experience, good, bad or ugly, with Bitubo shocks? > Getting hard to find domestic stuff for the old beast. Only other > options appear to be Hagon (UK) or WP (from White Bros). Thanks. > > Joe > 1985 Ninja 900 > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 16:27:46 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01437 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:27:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id UAA24674; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:22:51 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990421202615.QAWU20027@toddnt>; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:26:15 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: RE: Help Me Plan BRP/Deals Gap Trip? Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:23:58 -0400 Message-ID: <003101be8c34$e293d600$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <8525675A.00503432.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal The BRP is a well maintained, 461 mile stretch of road....with no stop signs :) 45mph is the rule, but you can do 55mph fairly safely until you get into North Carolina. That's when the road begins to become quite twisty. I believe Kirk Roy already led you to a web-page for the BRP and mentioned taking side roads. Here are some specific roads you would be interested in: VA: SR56 - head east into Tyro. Tight, twisty, major grins. NC: sr181 - heading toward Morganton, turn back at around 10 miles. Twisty and well paved, kind of like a very long VA211. The road the FAst Company Draggin' Jeans were named for (181's). sr226 - head south and veer left to avoid 226A. Follow 226 until you see the right turn for 226A and take that for an outstanding twist and shout up the mountains. Stop in Little Switzerland for some sightseeing. sr80 - head south/east until you come to US70 and turn around. Another fun twisty road and not very far from sr226 off the BRP sr128 - heading north to Mt. Mitchell (6684 feet). About 4 miles down the BRP from sr80. Has a nice restaurant to rest in. us74A - heading south. Kindof flat for a bit and then turns fun. Take this to head over to Chimney Rock park (about 3 miles from Bat Cave). Go check out this park. Cool sr151 - heading north (pisgah hwy). This is the road travelled by the "fantasy sport bike ride" or somat the Honda Hoot puts on. Be careful. Very tight turns and drop offs close by. us276 - either way. If you head south there are a couple of cool water falls to check out. One of them (Sliding Rock) has a life gaurd on duty and a bath house. Kids actually slide down this long inclined rock into a natural pool below. sr215 - either way. Heading north is very twisty for quite a long time. This was the road Mike Benedict wedged his Zx6 under a gaurd rail on our "DC-Cycles to Deal's Gap" adventure. Yuk. The rest of the parkway from here is quite twisty all the way into Ravensford (us441). Take 441 south into Cherokee for some tourst trappings. Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX > [mailto:christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 10:22 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Help Me Plan BRP/Deals Gap Trip? > > > Hi everyone. > > I'm currently planning a trip down the Skyline Drive/Blue Ridge > Parkway and > then possibly to Deal's Gap. I'm thinking I'll probably do it in May or > June, possibly in conjunction with a day or two at the Honda Hoot in > Asheville, NC. > > I'm hoping that those that have done this trip could give me some advice, > both general and specific, for the trip. I'm hoping for some help with > sightseeing spots, good roads, and good campgrounds or hotels/motels along > the way. Are there any "must sees" along the way? > > Also, if two or three other dc-cyclers are interested in making it a group > trip, I might be interested. Taking the trip with others might > make it more > fun. > > Thanks to anyone who can help, > Chris Weaver > VTR 1000 (break-in complete! woohoo!) > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I've got an ad from an old Motorcycle Times for a place in Berkeley Springs, WV called the Biker Mountain Inn. Been through there quite a few times, but I've never seen it. Sounds too good to be true. Anybody know? Joe From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 18:45:19 1999 Return-Path: jmoran@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03610 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from loudoun.com (leesburg-71.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with ESMTP id <0FAK005429V3R4@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:53:09 -0400 From: Randy and Julie Moran Subject: Proper Oil for a Race Bike To: DC cycles list Reply-to: jmoran@XXXXXX Message-id: <371E56D2.579D5D91@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Hi All, I've just been reading an article in the May issue of Cycle World, called "Unfinished Business." It's about Suzuki's discontinued efforts to race the TL-R. In the article, Crevier's lead mechanic is asked about the break-in procedure. The author paraphrases him saying that "no break-in oil or special procedures were used?just the standard 0-30W wide-range multi-grade race oil." My question is for all of the other racers on this list: Is it safe, or good for the motor to run 30W in a race bike? I figure the thinner oil will let the motor rev more freely, but does it offer enough protection? I change the oil after every race, but I don't have the time or money to rebuild the motor like the pros do. I run Castrol GTX 20W50 in mine. Too thick? I'm really interested to hear your comments. Randy Moran '89 ZX-7 AMA Novice #567 WERA Novice #696 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 19:11:32 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA03915 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:11:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-80-136.s9.as8.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.80.136]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03422 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904212311.TAA03422@smtp1.erols.com> From: "D. Thompson" To: Subject: '92 F2 for Sale Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:13:15 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I ran into someone at the local shop who asked if I was interested in buying his bike. I said no but that I would be glad to post for the readers, so here is the info. I know nothing except what I have been told (he wrote it in a note). Please contact him at the e-mail address listed below the information. '92 Honda CBR F2 Primer Color, Yosh pipe, Stage 2 Jet kit New Battleax rear tire Polished wheels 30k miles. $3000 O.B.O reply to: bluterek97@XXXXXX Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 21 22:10:53 1999 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailprime.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06443 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:10:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net [208.220.24.88] by tidalwave.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id A502759010A; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:10:10 EST Message-ID: <371E8505.E38078A@tidalwave.net> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:10:13 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Super Shield Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, Thought you might want to take a look at the big homemade windshield I've got mounted on the new Concours. It's pretty kewl. http://www.tidalwave.net/~horstman/shield.html Now if I could only figure out why I keep hearing thunderclaps behind me when I get up to highway speeds... :) Dale -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 07:09:56 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA14837 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:09:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 04:09:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Proper Oil for a Race Bike Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 04:05:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Whoa.. another racers comes out from the shadows... :) Well, It'd be my understanding that because of the operating temps of a race-bike, you'll be fine with a 50wt oil, so long as it's a synthetic. I'm not so sure I'd recommend a 0-30 oil for someone who doesn't have the resources available to rebuild an engine after every weekend.. I think those guys are probably attempting to get the thinnest stuff possible in there to help allow the engine to spin faster, and it might have some detrimental effects on the internals.. then again, the bike's not operating on any higher temp level than a decently hard run street-bike on any summer day. I recommend, and use myself, Mobil 15/50 synth. in my 4-strokes.. the RS125 is a different creature altogether.. Not that I'm a national level mechanic or rider or anything.. just some guy who wants to be.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 08:57:36 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16169 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:57:20 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Just a Reminder.. Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:52:04 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Since I know a lot of people are off work tomorrow for the NATO thing.. I just wanted to send out one last reminder that there's CCS Racing up at Summit Point this weekend. Last (unofficial) count, I think there were about 8~9 racers on here that will be up there, and it's my understanding that a few more will be taking the Roadracing school shortly. Come on up and show your support for motorcycling, racing, and the fellow DC-Cycles members.. For more info, e-mail myself, or check http://marrc.nova.org Thanks, Brian McCoy From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 09:05:40 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA16285 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 06:05:37 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: April MCN??!? Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 06:05:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I heard that the april issue of MCN has a ride report on the Norton Nemiss? Is that true? Just curious to see the article... Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 09:20:31 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA16532 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:20:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09748 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:20:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:20:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: FS: 96 Suz DR350 Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is not my bike, I'm posting for someone else. His contact info is at the bottom... I posted this earlier in the week with an error - due to a typo the previous message said it was a DR250... $1600 1996 Suzuki DR350. Street titled/inspected in VA (I'm assuming this is a street converted DR350 and not a DR350S/dualsport). 1500 miles, immaculate condition. Chuck Marler email enduro.rider@XXXXXX home page http://www.x-press.net/enduro (301) 913-1726 (pager) (301) 601-7216 (days) (301) 391-6539 (eves) From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 10:02:48 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA17073 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com ([205.161.207.98]) by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:01:55 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:01:48 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:59:28 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Subject: April MCN??!? -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Nope. Got April and May issues right here. No Norty Nemesis. I'm sure they're having problems getting that balsawood engine started. May has a pic of the other "World's Most Awesome Motorcycle," the million-dollar, 289-mph claimed Maximum Turbine. How Special. Joe >>> "McCoy, Brian NAB02" - 4/22/99 9:05 AM >>> I heard that the april issue of MCN has a ride report on the Norton Nemiss? Is that true? Just curious to see the article... Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 10:12:26 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA17295 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AE35728026A; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:12:05 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990422101009.012742c0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:12:15 -0400 To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: April MCN??!? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:05 AM 4/22/99 , McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: >I heard that the april issue of MCN has a ride report on the Norton Nemiss? >Is that true? > >Just curious to see the article... >Brian I started reading mine last night, and don't recall anything about Norton's. They DID have half-page ride reports on the Excelsior-Henderson, Victory, Hayabusa, & Kawasaki Drifter. You might try their web site www.mcnews.com Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 10:14:40 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA17325 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:14:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AECE73B026A; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:14:38 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990422101430.0127a3f0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:15:16 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: April MCN??!? -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:59 AM 4/22/99 , JOE NAGY wrote: >May has a pic of the other "World's Most Awesome Motorcycle," the >million-dollar, 289-mph claimed Maximum Turbine. How Special. >Joe Just what I want to straddle -- a turbine spinning at 30,000 rpm! Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 10:22:49 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA17475 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03658 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw2a.lmco.com (mailgw2a.lmco.com [192.91.147.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03028 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:22:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss03g01.ems.lmco.com (emss03g01.orl.lmco.com [141.240.4.144]) by mailgw2a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27560 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:22:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) id <0FAL00F01H95EC@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss09m01.ems.lmco.com ([158.183.24.5]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) with ESMTP id <0FAL001X2H922N@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by emss09m01.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:22:55 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:21:14 -0400 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: Near miss To: "'DC Cycles'" Message-id: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655E35@emss09m05.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all - long time no see :) Stupid Melissa virus caused quite a stir here. But anyways, I just wanted to thank all the MSF instructors out there. Through your instruction and love of cycling, I am here today. Yesterday on my way to work, I had to use some of that instruction. I commute from Dale City to Manassas everyday via Dale Blvd, Purcell Road onto 234 into Manassas. Gives me some time to wake up and really enjoy the ride - no traffic too. When I reach 234 there was an unusally large volume of traffic on the road - so what, not that far to get over the bridge where there's a light that usually keeps traffic tied up. Was almost into Manassas when we had to stop for another light, I had a pickup truck in front of me and a cargo van behind me. We had finally picked up speed after crossing the bridge but had to stop at a light when the truck in front of me for some reason stopped suddenly before the light. There was really no time for the van behind to stop that fast without taking up the space I was occupying. So I just stopped beside the truck and let the van have room to stop too. No one was hit or bumped. I would have never thought of that except I was taught that in my MSF course. Thanks to all MSF Instructors! Tracy Tracy L. Horstman UNIX System Administrator Lockheed Martin Enterprise Information Systems 9255 Wellington Rd. Manassas, VA 20110 Voice: (703) 367-2981 Fax: (703) 367-1389 E-mail: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 10:26:54 1999 Return-Path: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA17542 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:26:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from Lordorange@XXXXXX (8067) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2BUSa13355; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:25:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:25:35 EDT Subject: Cornerwork a Ferrari event To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Gmars@XXXXXX, Conteh@XXXXXX, TRBLSHTR@XXXXXX, speedybkl@XXXXXX, pete.long@XXXXXX, F1REDUDE@XXXXXX, afhopson1@XXXXXX, Blazbustr@XXXXXX, Bax2000@XXXXXX, CEO@XXXXXX, Charles.W.Peacock@XXXXXX, Charles.W@XXXXXX, McKeithen@XXXXXX, D.Ferrentino@XXXXXX (Dan Ferrentino), LoudounMotorSports@XXXXXX CC: Dunlap_WH@XXXXXX, William@XXXXXX, DPD@XXXXXX.'Dunlap, Diane.'@aol.com (at work) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: Lordorange@XXXXXX Don't ask me how I got in the middle of this, but the Ferrari club is having a track day at Summit Point on next Monday and Tuesday (the 26th and 27th). They are in need of at least 2+ cornerworkers. The last I heard was that they were offering to pay (not much) cornerworkers, but I don't have the details yet. I will be speaking with "Ferrari of Washington" later so I should now what's going on by the end of this day. Anyway, please send me an e-mail if you're interested in this event (by this afternoon if possible) so that I can tell Ferrari approximately how many people to expect. You won't be commiting yourself when you send this e-mail. As soon as I fully know what's going on I'll send the details to whomever is interested. -matt (yeah, I wish I had a Ferrari) From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 10:32:25 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA17660 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:32:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:31:38 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:31:28 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:30:01 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: Re: April MCN??!? -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline >>> Chris Norloff - 4/22/99 10:15 AM >>> At 09:59 AM 4/22/99 , JOE NAGY wrote: >May has a pic of the other "World's Most Awesome Motorcycle," the >million-dollar, 289-mph claimed Maximum Turbine. How Special. >Joe Just what I want to straddle -- a turbine spinning at 30,000 rpm! Chris Norloff With a 65-inch wheelbase to boot! From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 10:45:14 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA17884 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:45:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 22 Apr 1999 14:45:09 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA22610 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:45:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cornerwork a Ferrari event In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > They are in need of at least 2+ cornerworkers. The last I heard was that > they were offering to pay (not much) cornerworkers, but I don't have the > details yet. I will be speaking with "Ferrari of Washington" later so I > should now what's going on by the end of this day. If they 'payment' is letting you take a Maranello around summit point for 8 laps, then hell yes, I'll take the day off of work. If its $20, I dont see that happening :) Alex. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 10:47:34 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA17904 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:47:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03984 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:47:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04077 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:47:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A67D773026A; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:47:25 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990422104312.012cf2b0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:43:56 -0400 To: "'DC Cycles'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Near miss In-Reply-To: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655E35@emss09m05.ems.lmc o.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:21 AM 4/22/99 , Horstman, Tracy L wrote: > We had finally picked up speed after >crossing the bridge but had to stop at a light when the truck in front of me >for some reason stopped suddenly before the light. There was really no time >for the van behind to stop that fast without taking up the space I was >occupying. So I just stopped beside the truck and let the van have room to >stop too. No one was hit or bumped. I would have never thought of that >except I was taught that in my MSF course. > >Thanks to all MSF Instructors! You're welcome, and glad you're okay. :-) ride smart, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 21:04:58 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25261 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (web306.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.188]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA16805 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990422170259.11292.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web306.yahoomail.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:02:59 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:02:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: 6 piston caliper anyone?? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Howdy all, I'm posting this to the list, although I know it really only applies to a couple of folks... On my race bike, my front brakes have been binding some. Last weekend, I did a complete teardown on the calipers figuring they needed a cleaning badly. They were indeed very grungy. However, once I put everything back together they were still binding...found that the left side was the culprit. Talked to Rick Beggs about possible problems. He said that maybe there was gunk BEHIND the return seals. So I tore into the left caliper again last night. Indeed there was some gunk behind the seals, however, what I did notice was that one of the return seals had a "twist" in it and was not mating properly to the piston. No dealer or shop within the metro area has any of them in stock :( So that brings me to the purpose of this email...Is there any Suzuki rider out there with 6 piston calipers that would be willing to let me borrow the caliper off their bike for the weekend?? I'll use my pads (so no wear on your stuff) and do all the work... Returned promptly at the end of the weekend, and replaced on your machine with nice new racing brake fluid and fully bled ready to go.... I *think* this only would apply to Roy Turner and Sean Petr, but if there are any other lurkers out there that could help, let me know... I'm kinda broke (racing ain't cheap ;-)) but as compensation, I can offer my next set of Avon take offs (which will most likely come off this weekend.. and will most likely have LOTS of life left in them), or if you would prefer, I currently have a set of Dunlop D207GP take offs that have some life in them as well (personally, I think the Avons are a better tire overall..but whatever...) Please let me know ASAP, as I'll need to head out to the track tomorrow night... If I don't get any takers, I guess I'll jsut put the old seal back in and run it binding for the weekend :( Collin === -- Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 21:03:26 1999 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25144 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:03:04 -0400 (EDT) From: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA07529 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:12:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from big-daddy (207-172-146-232.s232.tnt3.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.146.232]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA16408 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990422192443.006f71d4@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: cfagan@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:24:43 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 6 Piston Calipers Anyone?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Tried to send this earlier, but never saw it come through on the list.... Howdy all, I'm posting this to the list, although I know it really only applies to a couple of folks... On my race bike, my front brakes have been binding some. Last weekend, I did a complete teardown on the calipers figuring they needed a cleaning badly. They were indeed very grungy. However, once I put everything back together they were still binding...found that the left side was the culprit. Talked to Rick Beggs about possible problems. He said that maybe there was gunk BEHIND the return seals. So I tore into the left caliper again last night. Indeed there was some gunk behind the seals, however, what I did notice was that one of the return seals had a "twist" in it and was not mating properly to the piston. No dealer or shop within the metro area has any of them in stock :( So that brings me to the purpose of this email...Is there any Suzuki rider out there with 6 piston calipers that would be willing to let me borrow the caliper off their bike for the weekend?? I'll use my pads (so no wear on your stuff) and do all the work... Returned promptly at the end of the weekend, and replaced on your machine with nice new racing brake fluid and fully bled ready to go.... I *think* this only would apply to Roy Turner and Sean Petr, but if there are any other lurkers out there that could help, let me know... I'm kinda broke (racing ain't cheap ;-)) but as compensation, I can offer my next set of Avon take offs (which will most likely come off this weekend.. and will most likely have LOTS of life left in them), or if you would prefer, I currently have a set of Dunlop D207GP take offs that have some life in them as well (personally, I think the Avons are a better tire overall..but whatever...) Please let me know ASAP, as I'll need to head out to the track tomorrow night... If I don't get any takers, I guess I'll jsut put the old seal back in and run it binding for the weekend :( Collin === -- Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 21:04:48 1999 Return-Path: mark.petty@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25210 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA24373 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:57:33 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: DC Cycles Subject: New Tires! Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:57:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Doh! So this is what diving into a corner feels like! I think I could learn really quickly to enjoy this. I new, in a vague and philisophical kinda way, that replacing the Cheng Shins with Dunlops would make a difference, if in only that I would have a lot more confidence as I learn to corner better, smoother, faster. I didn't realise how much more _fun_ they would make riding. I hadn't realised how much work I had been doing wrestling the big bike into the corners until I didn't have to do it anymore. Not that I do much cornering, compared to most... -Mark '83 V65 Magna Riding my V65 Magna (cutting edge in '83) while listening to Devo (cutting edge in 83) on my cassette walkman (cutting edge in '83). This must mean something, but what.... but what.... From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 21:05:06 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25367 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA14604 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A3A994A0262; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:51:53 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990422124919.012e4310@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:52:33 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Prince William Motorcyclist Dies Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Today Tracy Horstman, whom I believe always wears protective gear, wrote how she pulled up beside a truck to protect herself from a tailgater - a tactic taught in the highly-regarded Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) course. On the other end of the riding spectrum we have the following-- Prince William Motorcyclist Dies The Washington Post, 22 Apr 1999 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-04/22/208l-042299-idx.html A Prince William County man died after when the motorcycle he was driving struck a curb in Woodbridge, authorities said yesterday. Lee Scott Fairweather, 33, of the 1400 block of Maryland Avenue, was pronounced dead at Potomac Hospital. Police said he was driving a relative's 1999 Harley-Davidson on Maryland Avenue about 7:50 p.m. Tuesday when it hit the curb, sending him hurtling into a motorcycle and Jeep Wrangler that were parked on the side of the road. Police said Fairweather was not wearing a helmet and that alcohol was a factor in the crash. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 21:02:49 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25129 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id TAA07096 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:10:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990422231226.2711.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.146.232] by web304.yahoomail.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:12:26 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:12:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Proper Oil for a Race Bike To: jmoran@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think you've kind of answered your own question... As Brian mentioned, I too run Mobil 1, 15w50 in mine. I'm sure it robs me of a fwe horsepower compared to a light oil, but in return, I'm hoping the motor lasts several seasons before it gets too tired... Looks like CCS has us heavyweight types racing with the experts in every single one of our races! That should be interested... Be sure to stop in and say howdy to us.... Collin --- Randy and Julie Moran wrote: > My question is for all of the other racers on this list: Is it safe, > or > good for the motor to run 30W in a race bike? I figure the thinner > oil > will let the motor rev more freely, but does it offer enough > protection? I change the oil after every race, but I don't have the > time or money to rebuild the motor like the pros do. === -- Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 21:05:19 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25389 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web302.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.184]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA12527 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990422164332.8041.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web302.yahoomail.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:43:32 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:43:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Just a Reminder..CCS Racing To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yeah, what Brian said ;-) Come out and visit and watch some good racing... I have 1 race on Saturday and 3 on Sunday... CCS has combined the Amateur and Experts in the Heavyweight classes (mine), so I'll have an opportunity to chase the really really fast guys and learn a lot.. and hopefully beat all the other amateurs in the process... Collin --- "McCoy, Brian NAB02" wrote: > Since I know a lot of people are off work tomorrow for the NATO > thing.. I > just wanted to send out one last reminder that there's CCS Racing up > at > Summit Point this weekend. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 21:04:54 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25230 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA23029 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id NAA14602; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:38:15 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id NAA11504; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:38:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Just a Reminder.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was just wondering who (if anyone) was planning on heading out to Summit Point on Friday? Are there any difficulties getting into the track on Friday? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 21:05:31 1999 Return-Path: jip98@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25409 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amerchem.acs.org (amerchem.acs.org [208.209.231.222]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA02314 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:57:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wash58.acs.org by wash24 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA13928; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:52:38 -0400 Received: by WASH58 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <27A04YWS>; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:53:52 -0400 Message-Id: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE96D5C4@WASH58> From: Jason Picton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Trailer Help. Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:53:51 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does anyone know the best way to secure bikes in a covered trailer. Here is my dilemna (sp?). I have access to a covered trailer that is normally used to transport a MGB sportscar. I need to know the best way to transport bikes in this trailer. I can make modification to the floor only. I was thinking of 4 recessed Ihooks per bike that the MGB can roll over when it is used as a car trailer. Can bikes be secured safely from the floor only. I am thinking that if I secured the bike to the floor by the front handlebars and the rear frame (4 straps) that it would be enough. anoyone got any ideas?? would it be a good idea to compress the suspension as well?? help Jason From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 21:04:16 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25178 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA00609 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8T4PXUG; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:06:46 EDT To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Just a Reminder.. Message-ID: <19990420.073116.7551.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-5,7-26 From: Bikes R Us Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:06:46 EDT I will be up there to watch the races on Sunday, in support of two of the roadracers who work here. I'm hoping neither of them crashes on Saturday, so they will, in fact, be racing on Sunday. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:52:04 -0700 "McCoy, Brian NAB02" writes: >Since I know a lot of people are off work tomorrow for the NATO >thing.. I >just wanted to send out one last reminder that there's CCS Racing up >at >Summit Point this weekend. Last (unofficial) count, I think there >were >about 8~9 racers on here that will be up there, and it's my >understanding >that a few more will be taking the Roadracing school shortly. > >Come on up and show your support for motorcycling, racing, and the >fellow >DC-Cycles members.. > >For more info, e-mail myself, or check http://marrc.nova.org > >Thanks, > > Brian McCoy ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 21:05:03 1999 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25275 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.6]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA15231 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:55:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.MIL ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04310; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:53:55 -0400 Message-ID: <6B6E7568D1C6D211A48C00600832A5B10B3461@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LT" To: "'Brian McCoy'" , "'dc'" Subject: FW: F3 wheels Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:53:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain hmmm... NOW he has the rotors, cush, and carrier.... His old price was an "I'm smoking crack" $400... Sounds like someone enlightened him, so he may be willing to go for a mroe reasonable offer... Respond to him, not me... > -----Original Message----- > From: Mickyc51@XXXXXX [SMTP:Mickyc51@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 12:52 PM > To: ex500@XXXXXX > Subject: F3 wheels > > I was trying to sell a set of F3 wheels and apparently I was asking too > much. > I'm now open to all offers. The rear includes the cush drive, carrier, and > > stock sprocket. The front includes the rotors. > > Micky > I used to have a handle on life, but it broke. > > > To unsubscribe: EX500-request@XXXXXX > with: unsubscribe - in message body From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 21:05:41 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25426 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA16987 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04079 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA04230 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2TXAYX0C>; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:56:30 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC8E9@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Near miss Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:49:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Tracy, WOW! That's scary! Good for you for being alert and able to react quickly. And good for MSF for helping you be in that state. Keep the rubber side down! On another note: How much trouble could Melissa cause you, as a UNIX system admin? Perry From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 21:43:26 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27487 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:43:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [216.164.225.138]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA23622 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:43:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA05249; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:43:11 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma005247; Thu, 22 Apr 99 21:42:51 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990422214216.0098b610@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:42:48 -0400 To: Chris Norloff , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Re: Prince William Motorcyclist Dies In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990422124919.012e4310@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:52 PM 4/22/99 -0400, Chris Norloff wrote: >Police said Fairweather was not wearing a helmet and that alcohol was >a factor in the crash. Fascinating. Driving a borrowed bike while drunk and helmetless. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 The 5 Golden Rules of Driving (a cage) 1. If you miss a turn or exit, just keep going and turn around at the next opportunity. It will probably save you from an accident or a fist to head injury. 2. Stay the fuck out of the left lane. 3. If someone wants to pass you, do everything in your power to let them pass. Don't speed up a little then slow down. Don't cut them off, just let them pass. 4. Keep your eyes on the road and hands on the wheel. When you are driving a 2000 lb auto, reading is not a priority. Neither is little Johnny screaming in the back of the family minivan. Pull over if you need to. 5. If you don't allow 10 car lengths between you and the next car, people won't cut you off. Mainly the guy cutting you off is the one that used to be behind you but got so pissed off at you, he went around. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 21:44:10 1999 Return-Path: jmoran@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27490 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from loudoun.com (leesburg-124.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with ESMTP id <0FAM00G2GCT2MM@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:52:13 -0400 From: Randy and Julie Moran Subject: Thx for the help on the Oil Question To: DC cycles list Reply-to: jmoran@XXXXXX Message-id: <371FD240.E9D7C573@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Thanks to all who weighed in on the racing oil question. I figure, based on the replies, that the best thing to do is fill it with 3in1 and leave it alone 'til the end of the season. :) I guess I'll stick to the Castrol, but you can't blame a guy for trying. The bike is 10 years old fer cryin' out loud; I need power wherever I can find it! I'll be at Summit this weekend. Hope to see you all there. Randy Moran '89 ZX-7 CCS Novice #567 From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 21:54:04 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27758 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA13919 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA26476 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA28156 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:53:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199904230153.UAA28156@dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com> Received: from lbg-va2-07.ix.netcom.com(205.186.72.71) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma028017; Thu Apr 22 20:53:14 1999 From: "Hank" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:09:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: DC Cycles Shirts Reply-to: conteh@XXXXXX X-Confirm-Reading-To: conteh@XXXXXX X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Picked up my shirt from Todd this evening. Thanks Sean. Good Job!! Hank From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 22:01:45 1999 Return-Path: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA27984 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:01:43 -0400 (EDT) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX (4535) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id uBQAa24482; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:56:53 EDT Subject: **WRONG INFORMATION & RIDE TO THE WALL** To: Wishn4him@XXXXXX, POSTMAN28M@XXXXXX, Voxreri@XXXXXX, Needlsnpin@XXXXXX, Crowbar446@XXXXXX, HOGWILDX2@XXXXXX, TOWISH@XXXXXX, JFitzge669@XXXXXX, LittleWW@XXXXXX, Cynthia.M.Collins.1@XXXXXX, rosie@XXXXXX, vitaman@XXXXXX, Chopprdq@XXXXXX, Livinlif41@XXXXXX, SassyJazz@XXXXXX, PSYCHONORD@XXXXXX, Edina5@XXXXXX, Bbmargie@XXXXXX, RGReaper@XXXXXX, ARMOR1955@XXXXXX, Suthrnpryd@XXXXXX, rwickman@XXXXXX, ADonne2346@XXXXXX, bob.graham@XXXXXX, nobr8nr@XXXXXX, HAWG4HIRE@XXXXXX, randy@XXXXXX, daultman@XXXXXX, DynaHog@XXXXXX, HarleymanJ@XXXXXX, ADONSNY@XXXXXX, CherEcoke1@XXXXXX, Waltrich1@XXXXXX, MCF007@XXXXXX, A65Shari@XXXXXX, AdjusterR@XXXXXX, LgOvrLethr@XXXXXX, evan.rosenberg@XXXXXX, Jay4dee@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX My new number was incorrect in the original email. 410.531.3082 is the correct number Special note: one of our riders had a bike stolen. misssstake@XXXXXX 1996 suzuki RF900 dark green, 12000 miles, from Bowie on April 8th -- It's a long shot, but if you know anything about this, please let him know. Thanks. MAY 30, 1999 -- RIDE TO THE WALL As for the Ride to the Wall, there are a number of options. I'm collecting all the data and will send out one notice with all your options. AUGUST 20-22 -- SKYLINE DRIVE RIDE This is set in stone. As soon as my computer is unwrapped in the new place, I'll make all the arrangements. PLEASE BE SURE TO MAKE RESERVATIONS... I'M NOT SLEEPING WITH TERRY, TOM & KELLY AGAIN. Not that they weren't wonderful roomies, I'm beyond that. MORE EVENTS PLANNED St. Michael's, Point Lookout, Solomon's Island, Harper's Ferry, Cumberland, The place where Snake took us where there's a park, swimming and food, the covered bridge run, and so much more. Just not enough time to ride in a year! Ride Safely and I'll see you all on May 9th at BWI Airport for the RFK Ride for fallen officers. la From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 22:23:57 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28595 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:23:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id WAA27897 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990423022618.11970.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.146.232] by web301.yahoomail.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:26:18 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:26:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Trailer Help. To: Jason Picton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jason, You can buy either fixed or removable chocks for the floor pretty cheap. Securing it in the method you described is fine... not really sure how else you would secure it... walls, ceiling?? In my open trailer, all i ever do is strap down the front forks from the handlebars to the floor near the outside of the trailer. Only on longer trips do I even fiddle with the rear... yes, I highly recommend compressing the forks if you aren't using something to hold the front end... otherwise, as you go over bumps, the suspension will compress, the wheel can turn, or even worse, the tiedowns may get enough slack to come off... Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 22:27:53 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28693 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:27:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id WAA28263 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990423023014.12661.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.146.232] by web301.yahoomail.com; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:30:14 PDT Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:30:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Just a Reminder.. To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nope..no problems at all.. gates open at (i believe) 7 pm. Brian and I will most likely be waiting at the gate for them to open ;-) CT --- "Hugh A. Caldwell" wrote: > > I was just wondering who (if anyone) was planning > on heading out to Summit Point on Friday? Are there > any difficulties getting into the track on Friday? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 22:30:41 1999 Return-Path: jbroga@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28747 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA28561 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:30:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (sterling2-68.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FAM00GOGEWULP@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:22:48 -0700 From: jambroga Subject: Re: 6 piston caliper anyone?/ New Racer To: "Collin T. Fagan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <004701be8d49$55132680$912fbccc@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 X-Priority: 3 Can you Fed EX it to the track? Just a stupid idea but desperate times . . . As a side note to all racers and riders alike, I to might as well chime in that I'll be racing this weekend too, and I am now proudly sponsored by Loudoun Motorsports. For any who aren't familiar with them they are an owner operated shop in Leesburg that mainly caters to Hondas right now, but the owner and mechanics are motocrossers who love bike racing of all kinds. They are great guys and willing to give me some help even though I am on an EX just because they would like to get their name out to folks at the track. Lordorange had mentioned earlier on the list that they are also sponsoring a track day this summer . . . to any who haven't tried the track I highly recommend it. It was the catalyst that brought me into racing this season. So anyway, if you can, please support Loudoun Motorsports because a shop that supports racing and track days helps keep our sport/hobby alive , plus you deal straight with the owners. Look for me and Randy Moran to be flying their banner . . . Jonathan Broga CCS #502 Proudly Sponsered by Loudoun Motorsports EX500 VTR1000 ----- Original Message ----- From: Collin T. Fagan To: Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 10:02 AM Subject: 6 piston caliper anyone?? >Howdy all, > >I'm posting this to the list, although I know it really only applies to >a couple of folks... > >On my race bike, my front brakes have been binding some. Last weekend, >I did a complete teardown on the calipers figuring they needed a >cleaning badly. They were indeed very grungy. However, once I put >everything back together they were still binding...found that the left >side was the culprit. > >Talked to Rick Beggs about possible problems. He said that maybe there >was gunk BEHIND the return seals. So I tore into the left caliper >again last night. Indeed there was some gunk behind the seals, >however, what I did notice was that one of the return seals had a >"twist" in it and was not mating properly to the piston. No dealer or >shop within the metro area has any of them in stock :( > >So that brings me to the purpose of this email...Is there any Suzuki >rider out there with 6 piston calipers that would be willing to let me >borrow the caliper off their bike for the weekend?? I'll use my pads >(so no wear on your stuff) and do all the work... Returned promptly at >the end of the weekend, and replaced on your machine with nice new >racing brake fluid and fully bled ready to go.... >I *think* this only would apply to Roy Turner and Sean Petr, but if >there are any other lurkers out there that could help, let me know... > >I'm kinda broke (racing ain't cheap ;-)) but as compensation, I can >offer my next set of Avon take offs (which will most likely come off >this weekend.. and will most likely have LOTS of life left in them), or >if you would prefer, I currently have a set of Dunlop D207GP take offs >that have some life in them as well (personally, I think the Avons are >a better tire overall..but whatever...) > >Please let me know ASAP, as I'll need to head out to the track tomorrow >night... If I don't get any takers, I guess I'll jsut put the old seal >back in and run it binding for the weekend :( > >Collin > > >=== >-- >Collin T. Fagan >DC-Cycles Racing >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ >Proudly sponsored by: >Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) >Avon Racing Tyres >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 22 22:45:31 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from tea.uk.pw.com (tea.uk.pw.com [193.131.169.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA29083 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:45:30 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by tea.uk.pw.com; id DAA28610; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:40:48 +0100 Received: from olive.uk.pw.com(10.44.240.46) by tea.uk.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa28506; Fri, 23 Apr 99 03:40:43 +0100 Received: from intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com by olive.uk.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FAM00LYWFKKLS@XXXXXX>; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:43:33 +0100 (BST) Received: by intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8025675C.000F200B ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:43:49 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:43:18 -0400 Subject: Re: **WRONG INFORMATION & RIDE TO THE WALL** To: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX, misssstake@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525675C.000EB4A4.00@intleursmtp10.uk.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL DAMN!!! That sucks! My bike and I hope for a speedy recovery ... --chris (1994 RF900 ... RED) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Date: 04/23/99 01:56:53 AM GMT Subject: **WRONG INFORMATION & RIDE TO THE WALL** --snip-- Special note: one of our riders had a bike stolen. misssstake@XXXXXX 1996 suzuki RF900 dark green, 12000 miles, from Bowie on April 8th -- It's a long shot, but if you know anything about this, please let him know. Thanks. --snip-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 06:38:37 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA07216 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 06:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990423104154.13832.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web304.yahoomail.com; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:41:54 PDT Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:41:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Prince William Motorcyclist Dies To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Darn it Chris, you scared me at first. With a subject of "Prince William Motorcyclist Dies" then starting off with "Today Tracy Horstman..." Glad to see the story wasn't about her! I don't know about you folks, but if I have a new motorcycle, I won't be letting a relative who's had a few go out for a ride! Louis --- Chris Norloff wrote: > Today Tracy Horstman, whom I believe always wears protective gear, wrote > how she pulled up beside a truck to protect herself from a tailgater - a > tactic taught in the highly-regarded Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) > course. > > On the other end of the riding spectrum we have the following-- > > Prince William Motorcyclist Dies > The Washington Post, 22 Apr 1999 > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-04/22/208l-042299-idx.html > > A Prince William County man died after when the motorcycle he was > driving struck a curb in Woodbridge, authorities said yesterday. > > Lee Scott Fairweather, 33, of the 1400 block of Maryland Avenue, was > pronounced dead at Potomac Hospital. Police said he was driving a > relative's 1999 Harley-Davidson on Maryland Avenue about 7:50 p.m. > Tuesday when it hit the curb, sending him hurtling into a motorcycle > and Jeep Wrangler that were parked on the side of the road. > > Police said Fairweather was not wearing a helmet and that alcohol was > a factor in the crash. > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 09:07:31 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09090 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA09147 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta2.mcit.com (omta2.mcit.com [166.37.204.3]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA04387; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:02:57 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta2.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990423130624.IIYQ31194@toddnt>; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:06:24 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" , Subject: RE: Just a Reminder.. Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:04:09 -0400 Message-ID: <000101be8d89$c68c1de0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Hugh, If you plan to work and haven't told MARRC yet, you'll pay to enter Friday. But MARRC will reimburse you the $20 entry after you've worked. Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Hugh A. Caldwell [mailto:Turnip@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 1:38 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Just a Reminder.. > > > > I was just wondering who (if anyone) was planning > on heading out to Summit Point on Friday? Are there > any difficulties getting into the track on Friday? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 09:08:15 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09093 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:08:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from henrywin (dc-csesp6.idsonline.com [207.176.21.6]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA19109 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:07:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: RE --> Fwd: HWY PEGS Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:08:30 -0400 Message-ID: <000301be8d8a$626a75e0$0615b0cf@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > < We're trying to figure out how to adapt > these to the Concours...>> >From what's been said there about those things you need a pretty solid mounting point to put them on. I don't believe that the Connie has any such solid mounting points under the fairing WHERE the slider will do any good if the bike falls over. Having had both my mirrors broken during falls on either side of the bike, that would seem to be about the only logical place. However, I've never (knock wood) had a higher than walking-speed fall on the bike! Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 09:18:16 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09247 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from henrywin (dc-csesp6.idsonline.com [207.176.21.6]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA19601 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:17:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: Near miss Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:18:34 -0400 Message-ID: <000401be8d8b$ca3e3e80$0615b0cf@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655E35@emss09m05.ems.lmco.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: Horstman, Tracy L [mailto:tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 10:21 AM > To: 'DC Cycles' > Subject: Near miss > But anyways, I just wanted to thank all the MSF instructors out there. > Through your instruction and love of cycling, I am here today. > Thanks to all MSF Instructors! > > Tracy > Tracy L. Horstman Tracy........please send $100 CASH to Henry S....... Just kidding of course. Glad you found your training helpful. And to those of you who think that training is NOT helpful, then apparently you didn't read the original of this post!! Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 09:25:16 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09355 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from henrywin (dc-csesp6.idsonline.com [207.176.21.6]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA20073 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:24:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: Prince William Motorcyclist Dies Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:25:30 -0400 Message-ID: <000501be8d8c$c1e809e0$0615b0cf@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <19990423104154.13832.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Darn it Chris, you scared me at first. With a subject of "Prince William > Motorcyclist Dies" then starting off with "Today Tracy > Horstman..." Glad to > see the story wasn't about her! > > I don't know about you folks, but if I have a new motorcycle, I won't be > letting a relative who's had a few go out for a ride! > > Louis I'd bet the owner had a few as well...probably just as many if not more than the idiot on the bike. Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 09:40:03 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09577 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:40:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA13095 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:39:22 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFAA9@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Mark Petty'" , DC Cycles Subject: RE: New Tires! Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:39:21 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) You should have switched to radials then you really would have seen a difference... Glenn > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Petty [SMTP:mark.petty@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 1:58 PM > To: DC Cycles > Subject: New Tires! > > Doh! So this is what diving into a corner feels like! > > I think I could learn really quickly to enjoy this. > > I new, in a vague and philisophical kinda way, that replacing the Cheng > Shins with Dunlops would make a difference, if in only that I would have > a lot more confidence as I learn to corner better, smoother, faster. I > didn't realise how much more _fun_ they would make riding. I hadn't > realised how much work I had been doing wrestling the big bike into the > corners until I didn't have to do it anymore. Not that I do much > cornering, compared to most... > > -Mark > '83 V65 Magna > > Riding my V65 Magna (cutting edge in '83) while listening to Devo > (cutting edge in 83) on my cassette walkman (cutting edge in '83). This > must mean something, but what.... but what.... From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 09:46:46 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09684 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta2.mcit.com (omta2.mcit.com [166.37.204.3]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA24834 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:46:44 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta2.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990423134623.IRKQ31194@toddnt> for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:46:23 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: Near miss Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:44:08 -0400 Message-ID: <000901be8d8f$5c4d4480$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <000401be8d8b$ca3e3e80$0615b0cf@henrywin> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal You know, I just don't recall anyone admitting that training is not helpful. Hmmm... Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Henry S. Winokur [mailto:henwin@XXXXXX] > > Just kidding of course. Glad you found your training helpful. > And to those > of you who think that training is NOT helpful, then apparently you didn't > read the original of this post!! > > Henry S. Winokur > '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 > AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor > West Bethesda, MD > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 09:50:56 1999 Return-Path: mark.petty@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09773 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:50:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA14528 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:50:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:45:04 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: DC Cycles Subject: RE: New Tires! Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:45:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain I believe the Dunlop D205s are, in fact, radials... I'm still amazed at how much difference a tire can make. -Mark -----Original Message----- From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM [mailto:Dysart@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 9:39 AM To: 'Mark Petty'; DC Cycles Subject: RE: New Tires! You should have switched to radials then you really would have seen a difference... Glenn > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Petty [SMTP:mark.petty@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 1:58 PM > To: DC Cycles > Subject: New Tires! > > Doh! So this is what diving into a corner feels like! > > I think I could learn really quickly to enjoy this. > > I new, in a vague and philisophical kinda way, that replacing the Cheng > Shins with Dunlops would make a difference, if in only that I would have > a lot more confidence as I learn to corner better, smoother, faster. I > didn't realise how much more _fun_ they would make riding. I hadn't > realised how much work I had been doing wrestling the big bike into the > corners until I didn't have to do it anymore. Not that I do much > cornering, compared to most... > > -Mark > '83 V65 Magna > > Riding my V65 Magna (cutting edge in '83) while listening to Devo > (cutting edge in 83) on my cassette walkman (cutting edge in '83). This > must mean something, but what.... but what.... From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 09:59:40 1999 Return-Path: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09875 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:59:39 -0400 (EDT) From: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA15795 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from STARAI@XXXXXX (537) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 4EBIa09414; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <982b91fb.2451d65c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:57:48 EDT Subject: Re:MSF technique To: cnorloff@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: STARAI@XXXXXX In a message dated 04/22/1999 9:16:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cnorloff@XXXXXX writes: << Today Tracy Horstman, whom I believe always wears protective gear, wrote how she pulled up beside a truck to protect herself from a tailgater - a tactic taught in the highly-regarded Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) course. O >> What is this technique? I have taken courses and never heard of this. Sounds like this is worth knowing. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 10:03:17 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA09963 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA16325 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:03:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:02:45 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFAB2@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Mark Petty'" , DC Cycles Subject: RE: New Tires! Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:02:43 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Oops, I guessed I missed the part where you mentioned they were 205's. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Petty [SMTP:mark.petty@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 9:45 AM > To: DC Cycles > Subject: RE: New Tires! > > I believe the Dunlop D205s are, in fact, radials... > > I'm still amazed at how much difference a tire can make. > > -Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM [mailto:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 9:39 AM > To: 'Mark Petty'; DC Cycles > Subject: RE: New Tires! > > > You should have switched to radials then you really would have seen a > difference... > > Glenn > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Petty [SMTP:mark.petty@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 1:58 PM > > To: DC Cycles > > Subject: New Tires! > > > > Doh! So this is what diving into a corner feels like! > > > > I think I could learn really quickly to enjoy this. > > > > I new, in a vague and philisophical kinda way, that replacing the > Cheng > > Shins with Dunlops would make a difference, if in only that I would > have > > a lot more confidence as I learn to corner better, smoother, faster. I > > didn't realise how much more _fun_ they would make riding. I hadn't > > realised how much work I had been doing wrestling the big bike into > the > > corners until I didn't have to do it anymore. Not that I do much > > cornering, compared to most... > > > > -Mark > > '83 V65 Magna > > > > Riding my V65 Magna (cutting edge in '83) while listening to Devo > > (cutting edge in 83) on my cassette walkman (cutting edge in '83). > This > > must mean something, but what.... but what.... From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 10:05:16 1999 Return-Path: riders@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10035 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA16513 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:05:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (209-122-220-199.s453.tnt5.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.220.199]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id KAA24032; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37207BE1.5D3C@erols.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:55:45 -0400 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike T CC: Chris Norloff , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Prince William Motorcyclist Dies References: <4.1.19990422214216.0098b610@www.troutman.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [snip] NO, my frined, the fascinating part is that there is an idiot out there that will let a helmetless drunk borrow his new bike!!! Mike T wrote: > > At 12:52 PM 4/22/99 -0400, Chris Norloff wrote: > >Police said Fairweather was not wearing a helmet and that alcohol was > >a factor in the crash. > > Fascinating. Driving a borrowed bike while drunk and helmetless. > -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 10:21:41 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10301 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id KAA18505 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:20:47 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:20:42 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:19:15 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: jip98@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Trailer Help. -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline In my experience, hooking your tie-downs to the floor is preferable to any other location. Yes, compress the suspension so the tiedowns are holding against it. I've gotten away with using just two tie downs on the handlebars, with four it should be really safe. The real key here is use good straps that don't slip (i.e., Ancra). Joe From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 11:23:31 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11310 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA23575 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw2a.lmco.com (mailgw2a.lmco.com [192.91.147.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08483 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:23:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss03g01.ems.lmco.com (emss03g01.orl.lmco.com [141.240.4.144]) by mailgw2a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30153 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) id <0FAN00C01BSBEV@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:23:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss09m01.ems.lmco.com ([158.183.24.5]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) with ESMTP id <0FAN007HECO5UL@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by emss09m01.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:39:11 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:38:23 -0400 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: RE: DC Cycles Shirts To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655E3A@emss09m05.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Dale picked up our shirts. Guess I missed something cause the don't look like the picture that was picked. Guess it has to do with the silk screening process. Just wanted to thank Sean for his efforts and Todd for distribution. BUT, I don't really like them too much. AND gonna wear it anyways because it has DC Cycles on it. I just think the colors are harsh and the gray wasn't like the gray I thought it would be. Dale says it stands out from my other Girl Scout t-shirts so I won't get it confused with them. Who knows, maybe the colors will eventually grow on me 'till I like it. Thanks again - yes I would purchase another T-shirt if I had to do it all over again. > -----Original Message----- > From: Hank [SMTP:conteh@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 10:10 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: DC Cycles Shirts > > Picked up my shirt from Todd this evening. > Thanks Sean. Good Job!! > Hank From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 11:24:53 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11321 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:24:52 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id JKYRH2S0; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:24:54 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV3136T0; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:24:55 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 8525675C.0054ABE1 ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:24:50 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525675C.0054360C.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:22:42 -0400 Subject: Deals Gap I would love to go! Although, I'll probably trailer. Memorial day weekend is bike week down in Myrtle Beach. If I do Deals Gap this year it'll probably be in June. DJ 97' YZF1000R From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 11:58:14 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12136 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:58:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com ([209.135.198.107]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id LAA04719 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:57:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990423115226.006c67b0@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:52:26 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: hello Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Everybody, I am sort of new to this list. Writing to tell you all I will be riding with the Montgomery County chapter of Women on Wheels to the Libby Hatch Poker run on Sunday. I'll be the one on the pink ZX-6 with a white helmet. I am looking forward to seeing some of you all the poker run. Lisa Goddard Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 12:58:43 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13213 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta2.mcit.com (omta2.mcit.com [166.37.204.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA19537 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:57:37 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta2.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990423165816.KLDG31194@toddnt> for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:58:16 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Vehicle Decal Application Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:55:59 -0400 Message-ID: <001001be8daa$29af8cc0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Just got the County of Fairfax, Department of Tax Administration, 1999 Personal Property Tax Return & Vehicle Decal Application in the mail yesterday for the XT350 I bought about a month ago. Fairfax wants $18 for a moto-decal. This is what they charge for a new decal. What I am surprised about is that they offer NO PRO-RATE on a decal that has lost its value from inception to date. So in effect, I'd be paying a higher premium for a sticker that is half it's stated value. I'd be willing to file the return, w/o paying for the decal and just take a chance of not getting caught by Mr. LEO. Anybody know the ramifications of this? If I'm ticketed, how much? Todd From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 13:16:08 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13533 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 152; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:16:00 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990423131506.0137cf10@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:15:58 -0400 To: "Todd Peer" , "DC-Cycles" From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Vehicle Decal Application In-Reply-To: <001001be8daa$29af8cc0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:55 PM 4/23/99 , Todd Peer wrote: >Fairfax wants $18 for a moto-decal. This is what they charge for a new >decal. What I am surprised about is that they offer NO PRO-RATE on a decal >that has lost its value from inception to date. So in effect, I'd be paying >a higher premium for a sticker that is half it's stated value. > >I'd be willing to file the return, w/o paying for the decal and just take a >chance of not getting caught by Mr. LEO. Anybody know the ramifications of >this? If I'm ticketed, how much? We are only talking about $9 here, right? Probably a lot better off just paying it and moving on.... ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Suing the gun companies for wrongful death is akin to suing Indy car sponsers for 'making' you speed" From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 13:33:09 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13853 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:32:32 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:32:27 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:30:39 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Subject: Vehicle Decal Application -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Got nabbed in my truck about a year after moving down here. I think the ticket was $25. Got totally reamed when we moved from City of Richmond to Goochland Co. Moved in Feb, yet Richmond sent me to collection for the entire year because "Goochland doesn't pro-rate." Joe From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 13:44:41 1999 Return-Path: ewhinger1@XXXXXX Received: from m20.boston.juno.com (m20.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.190]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14060 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:44:40 -0400 (EDT) From: ewhinger1@XXXXXX Received: (from ewhinger1@XXXXXX) by m20.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D8WJCXYD; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:43:54 EDT To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:42:50 EDT Subject: Re: Vehicle Decal Application Message-ID: <19990423.134304.218.0.ewhinger1@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-13,15,17-19 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:55:59 -0400 "Todd Peer" writes: > >Just got the County of Fairfax, Department of Tax Administration, >1999 >Personal Property Tax Return & Vehicle Decal Application in the mail >yesterday for the XT350 I bought about a month ago. > >Fairfax wants $18 for a moto-decal. This is what they charge for a >new >decal. Last time I heard, they impound the vehicle until you come up with proof of payment on the property tax. I used to have a 55 BMW that cost $18.99 each year, $18.00 for the sticker, $0.99 for the tax. Emmett W. Hinger ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 14:29:07 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14887 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta2.mcit.com (omta2.mcit.com [166.37.204.3]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id SAA28598; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:27:56 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta2.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990423182834.LDIL31194@toddnt>; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:28:34 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: Cc: Subject: RE: Vehicle Decal Application Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:26:17 -0400 Message-ID: <001401be8db6$c741b8d0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <19990423.134304.218.0.ewhinger1@juno.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Didn't say I wouldn't pay the tax. In fact I plan to go ahead forward the return. Just not so sure I will pay for the decal. Todd > > On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:55:59 -0400 "Todd Peer" > writes: > > > >Just got the County of Fairfax, Department of Tax Administration, > >1999 > >Personal Property Tax Return & Vehicle Decal Application in the mail > >yesterday for the XT350 I bought about a month ago. > > > >Fairfax wants $18 for a moto-decal. This is what they charge for a > >new > >decal. > > Last time I heard, they impound the vehicle until you come up with proof > of payment on the property tax. > I used to have a 55 BMW that cost $18.99 each year, $18.00 for the > sticker, $0.99 for the tax. > > Emmett W. Hinger From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 14:52:55 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15326 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:52:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA26656 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:52:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgw2a.lmco.com (mailgw2a.lmco.com [192.91.147.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14845 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:52:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss03g01.ems.lmco.com (emss03g01.orl.lmco.com [141.240.4.144]) by mailgw2a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10937 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) id <0FAN006019QCC5@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss09m01.ems.lmco.com ([158.183.24.5]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) with ESMTP id <0FAN0077CD3MUL@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:47:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by emss09m01.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:48:28 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:46:02 -0400 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: RE: MSF technique To: "'STARAI@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Message-id: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655E3C@emss09m05.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Had to do with making sure you gear down when you are stopping in case you need to zip around the car in front of you avoid getting rear-ended. We were practicing making sure we were in 1st gear when we can to a complete stop. Someone in the class asked why and the instructor said so that if you have someone behind can't stop you can zip up beside the car in front of you to protect yourself. Now he didn't want us gearing down like you do in a car, but he wanted to make sure that if you needed the "power" to get around something, you'll already be in the proper gear to do it. > -----Original Message----- > From: STARAI@XXXXXX [SMTP:STARAI@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 9:58 AM > To: cnorloff@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re:MSF technique > > In a message dated 04/22/1999 9:16:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > cnorloff@XXXXXX writes: > > << > Today Tracy Horstman, whom I believe always wears protective gear, wrote > how she pulled up beside a truck to protect herself from a tailgater - a > tactic taught in the highly-regarded Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) > course. > > O >> > > What is this technique? I have taken courses and never heard of this. > Sounds like this is worth knowing. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 18:16:13 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA18890 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA29089 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:16:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.252.108]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA20577 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:16:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA05682 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:16:06 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma005680; Fri, 23 Apr 99 18:15:51 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990423181402.00981220@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:15:50 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Damn the HAIL! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Came home tonight to find my tach glass shattered and seat ripped in 2 places. Didn't put the cover on the bike last night - not sure if it would have prevented the damage or not.... Now I am in the market for a small piece of replacement glass that will probably run me $50. Seat will have to be taped or replaced...neither is a comforting thought.... _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 18:30:52 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19174 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA29270 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:30:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA20873 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (8081) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vJAQa14183 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:30:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:30:12 EDT Subject: Summit Point Saturday To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX I'm planning to go up tomorrow, weather permitting. I would like to leave at 9 or 10 AM. Anyone from Md. going up about that time. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 18:44:44 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA19369 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA29423 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.252.108]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA21142 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:44:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA05691 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:44:37 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma005689; Fri, 23 Apr 99 18:44:21 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990423184252.0098ec70@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:44:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Damn the HAIL! Part II Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Because of Hail damage..... Must replace whole Tach - $378.50 Stock Seat - $346.50 Think I will go with a cut piece of glass and some black tape..... _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 19:00:29 1999 Return-Path: dankenney@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (f131.hotmail.com [207.82.251.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA19667 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31760 invoked by uid 0); 23 Apr 1999 22:59:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990423225900.31759.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.122.229.141 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:59:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.122.229.141] From: "DAN KENNEY" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Summit Point on Sunday Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:59:00 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Anybody from Md planning to go to Summit point on Sunday? Dan Kenney 1997 Red TL1000s _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 19:14:06 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA19885 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA29810 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:13:57 -0400 (EDT) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (zbig@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA21542 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id TAA07730; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904232313.TAA07730@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: Damn the HAIL! Part II To: mike@XXXXXX (Mike T) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990423184252.0098ec70@www.troutman.org> from "Mike T" at Apr 23, 99 06:44:11 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > Because of Hail damage..... > > Must replace whole Tach - $378.50 > Stock Seat - $346.50 > > Think I will go with a cut piece of glass and some black tape..... > Oops. That was an expensive event. Check if your insurance will cover it - if you have comprehesive, it might be covered ( minus deductible ). That is really painful... > _____________________________________ > Mike Troutman BTW - I am back in US. I managed to rent a bike in Melbourne, for a weekend. BMW F650, $300 Uastralian ( $200 USD ) + a $1000 AUS deposit. We did about 500 km, majority on the left side oof the road. Covered seaside road called Grand ocean road, an equivalent of Highway 101 on West Coast. Meet few local riders. let's count: - passing on double white - check; - splitting lanes in Melbourne - check; - exceeding posted seed limits - check; - riding on sidewalks - check, - running red light - check; - running stop signs - check; turning right from the left lane (The left lane ) - check; but that was only one way to keep up behind locals on 250cc bikes. Out of the city, they ride ina more civilised manner; only sometimes a guy on a nice fast GXXR1FRZZR will bzzzz by. Protective gear is very popular - helmets are obligatory, and almost everyone uses either Dainese or local Stich equivalent. Sport bikes abd dual purpose are dominant; cruisers are in minority, HD is a rare breed. As I said earlier, lot of small displacement bikes, 2 strokes are legal for street use. Some nice models - yamaha Tenere, Honda DP large diplsacement bikes, Honda 900RR black/silver combination - just gorgeous.. 250 and 125 race-replica Aprillias ( 2 stroke ) legal for street use, plenty of Ducatis. In melbourne all main bike shops are compacted on a quoater mile strech of Elisabeth street. When shops are open, bikes are parked on a sidewalk - and everyone walks between bikes and shop. Some shops are quite large, with 100 units ( new and used ) in stock. Something like take Coleman, Leesburg Honda, our friendly Herndon shop, all 3 winchester shops and locate all of them on RT 7, between 123 and Galleria. Well, I bacome a regular there - it was a nice 15v minutes walk from my hotel. _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 20:41:19 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21063 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:41:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA00767 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:41:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA22675 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:41:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust012.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.12]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA26859 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:43:27 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990423204233.006a5bfc@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:42:33 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Damn the HAIL! Part II In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990423184252.0098ec70@www.troutman.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Recovering the seat should be possible for under $150. Why would anyone pay that much money for a stock seat when a Russell Saddle can be purchased for about the same price. Leon. At 06:44 PM 4/23/99 -0400, Mike T wrote: >Because of Hail damage..... > >Must replace whole Tach - $378.50 >Stock Seat - $346.50 > >Think I will go with a cut piece of glass and some black tape..... > >_____________________________________ > Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org > > '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 23:30:02 1999 Return-Path: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA23365 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:30:01 -0400 (EDT) From: JimJacks@XXXXXX Received: from JimJacks@XXXXXX (8024) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXTJa12051 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <934c3bfb.24529488@aol.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:29:12 EDT Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 04/23/99 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Reply-To: JimJacks@XXXXXX RE: Does anyone know the best way to secure bikes in a covered trailer. Here is my dilemna (sp?). I have access to a covered trailer that is normally used to transport a MGB sportscar. I need to know the best way to transport bikes in this trailer. I can make modification to the floor only. I was thinking of 4 recessed Ihooks per bike that the MGB can roll over when it is used as a car trailer. Can bikes be secured safely from the floor only. I am thinking that if I secured the bike to the floor by the front handlebars and the rear frame (4 straps) that it would be enough. anoyone got any ideas?? would it be a good idea to compress the suspension as well?? help Jason Hey Jason Unusual that I can offer anything except readership, but I move my ZX11 in a 30' race car trailer behind a large Isuzu Turbo diesel, in other words I have NO idea what is happening back there unless I stop, so I want to be VERY sure that the zx wont be doing anything funky. I park it between the existing recessed D rings in the floor (so the rings are roughly next to my feet as I park) and run straps over the handle bar grips (place according to effectiveness, if you are unsure, pick a better spot) down to the rings, and again from the rear framework to the same rings. Kind of a triangulation thing. Anyhow I get her loosely tied in standing up rignt, then I compress the suspension under my own weight and tension the friction straps. After that I throw on another four in the same locations as cheap backup insurence. The triangulation (straps front AND back) is way safe, protecting against sudden STOPS as well as sudden GO'S (uncomon with a turbodiesel). I am anal as shit about moving loads, so if I like it, god probably would too. An aside, I really love reading most of what you all write here, nice group of folks. Only ridden with you once, but hope to again soon. -Jim 98 zx11 Reston From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 23 23:37:52 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA23452 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA02483 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.252.108]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA24701 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA05748 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:37:40 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma005746; Fri, 23 Apr 99 23:37:23 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990423233219.00973de0@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:37:22 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Re: Damn the HAIL! Part II In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990423204233.006a5bfc@illuminet.net> References: <4.1.19990423184252.0098ec70@www.troutman.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Couldn't get through to the insurance company (USAA) - steady busy signal. I have taken everyone's suggestions, and decided to order a Corbin seat. Put in the order online this evening. I wanted one anyway. I'll have insurance cover the replacement seat and the tach, with a $200 deductible. Since the Corbin seat is $250, I wind up saving $50, with the addition of a few headaches. I'll poke around junk yards for replacement tach / glass, but insurance will likely cover it either way. Next time I'll make sure and put the bike cover on every night....although I doubt that would have saved it. At least the paint was not chipped. MT _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 24 09:38:29 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04481 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA08643 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29857 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (209-122-196-5.s5.tnt5.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.196.5]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA28514 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3721C71E.6D6D@erols.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:29:02 -0400 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: hail damage Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check with Irv Simon in Randallstown, MD for the tach repair. He does this type of work and will also calibrate and "certify" speedos if anyone should ever have need for this type of service. -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 24 14:22:04 1999 Return-Path: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08306 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:22:03 -0400 (EDT) From: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from TZimm2450@XXXXXX (3702) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oPCHa19330; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:13:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <98b069a.245363ce@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:13:34 EDT Subject: Re: Damn the HAIL! Part II To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TZimm2450@XXXXXX I was lucky, I haven't found any damage to the bike. I was in DC all day and never new what hit the bike. Anyway. There are a bunch of salvage yards in Daytona, Florida and they do ship pieces around the nation. I don't know how much it would run, but they would probably have your parts. Trevor 98YZF600 From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 24 18:00:07 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA11152 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:00:06 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id JKYRHLND; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:59:59 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31PD8D; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:00:00 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 8525675D.0078D522 ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:59:48 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525675D.007880DA.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:58:28 -0400 Subject: SRAD in Ditch Coming out of Bowie today on Rt50, I saw a rider pushing his bike out of the ditch with trooper looking on. Also, there was a cager standing by looking bewildered. Hmmmm, did she/he run him off the road? Is this anyone on this list? DJ From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 24 21:52:27 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (web306.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.188]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14033 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:52:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990425015343.29199.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.146.232] by web306.yahoomail.com; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:53:43 PDT Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:53:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Crashing Sucks!!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yep folks, I blew it... Dicing with a friend and had the lead (hopefully to stay) and I biffed it in turn 4 (fasterst turn on course...about 135mph) Nice looooooong slide.... no real harm to me.. sore, but nothing broken. Since I slid most of the way on my back , the back protector and leathers kept me intact... wish I could say the same for the leathers... big gaping hole in the center panel. Bike didn't fair all that well either.... It made it all the way into the tire wall and did a good bounce number so it got whacked fairly hard as well... Bodywork somewhat salvagable, left clipon broken, brake lever damaged, left footpeg bracket torn off, and a bent subframe.....Other than that not too bad.... Possibly could have had it ready again for tomorrow if I found parts, but since I had a very generous offer of leathers and a bike, I'm going to take my time putting the gixer back together.... I'll be out there on a very nice looking red and white F2 and solid black leathers.... So come on out and see how I do on an underpowered bike ;-) Collin ps: did I mention that crashing sucks!!! lol pps: now where did I put that Naproxin!!! === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 24 22:52:25 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA14779 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5.mcit.com [166.37.210.27]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id CAA13885; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 02:48:33 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.44.172.205]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990425025148.RMJB24276@[166.44.172.205]>; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 21:51:48 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Collin T. Fagan" , Subject: RE: Crashing Sucks!!! Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:49:47 -0400 Message-ID: <000601be8ec6$47af9270$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <19990425015343.29199.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > > Yep folks, I blew it... Dicing with a friend and had the lead > (hopefully to stay) and I biffed it in turn 4 (fasterst turn on > course...about 135mph) ...s... > ps: did I mention that crashing sucks!!! lol > pps: now where did I put that Naproxin!!! > Yeah Collin, crashing does suck. John Kozyn and I were rooting for you as you took lead and then we heard 'a bike down in turn 4'. I look at John and say, "no way". Tough luck guy. Crashing sucks even more for people that get plowed over at the start/finish on the START. Jesus, what a melle(sp) today. Apparently a stalled bike on the line and an all to eager crowd of amateurs ended up with two riders down and semi-counscience, and another that nearly lost it. Can't/won't go into any gory details but two were airlifted to FFax Hosp. And those f**king legends cars kept screaming off turn 1 (Me, Hugh Caldwell, John Kozyn: listers) into puddles, splashing mud and wet onto the track. Lot's of clean up each time they came out (4). That and the major accident saw us off the track, finally, at 7:15pm....sigh. Excellent wx, good racing otherwise, a little tired, but what fun! Todd From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 24 23:39:38 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA15361 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:39:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr50-dialup170.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.196.174]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35317) with SMTP id <0FAQ0065X7GVNQ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 03:39:03 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:38:25 +0000 From: Jon Subject: Re: Crashing Sucks!!! To: "Collin T. Fagan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <002201be8eab$909e5540$aec43ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Damn, that sucks! That's the one part of racing you don't always account for. You know it's going to happen, but how bad. Glad to see you're ok and you get to wreck, I mean ride, another bike. 8^) I didn't get a chance to make it out(again), but I'll make it sometime soon... Jon -----Original Message----- From: Collin T. Fagan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 2:02 AM Subject: Crashing Sucks!!! >Yep folks, I blew it... Dicing with a friend and had the lead >(hopefully to stay) and I biffed it in turn 4 (fasterst turn on >course...about 135mph) Nice looooooong slide.... no real harm to me.. >sore, but nothing broken. Since I slid most of the way on my back , >the back protector and leathers kept me intact... wish I could say the >same for the leathers... big gaping hole in the center panel. > >Bike didn't fair all that well either.... It made it all the way into >the tire wall and did a good bounce number so it got whacked fairly >hard as well... Bodywork somewhat salvagable, left clipon broken, brake >lever damaged, left footpeg bracket torn off, and a bent >subframe.....Other than that not too bad.... > >Possibly could have had it ready again for tomorrow if I found parts, >but since I had a very generous offer of leathers and a bike, I'm going >to take my time putting the gixer back together.... > >I'll be out there on a very nice looking red and white F2 and solid >black leathers.... > >So come on out and see how I do on an underpowered bike ;-) > >Collin > >ps: did I mention that crashing sucks!!! lol >pps: now where did I put that Naproxin!!! > >=== >Collin T. Fagan >DC-Cycles Racing >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ >Proudly sponsored by: >Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) >Avon Racing Tyres >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 25 00:01:42 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15656 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:01:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (3703) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rPSOa23549; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:57:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5819ce9e.2453ecb6@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:57:42 EDT Subject: Re: Crashing Sucks!!! To: gixer_racer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: Boiade@XXXXXX Collin, I left before you did, how did you get on-line so quickly. Anyway, Collin was doing very well, had gotten the measure of the fellow leading, passed him (the second time) we were ready to take a nice photograph of him in the lead when he got to the carousel but he disappeared. Well, Brad got a long-distance shot of him in the lead the second time. We were unable to get a shot of him after his first pass of the eventual winner on the first or second lap, can't remember. Collin is more talented than the guy who won anyway. The guy who won Collin's race (by default) won another race too, I think so he is not a slouch. Jay was a steady mid-pack contender, very composed. We got shots of him too. I don't know if the fellow who had the second-hand AMA Yamaha was a DC-Cycles guy but he did ok. Jack (TLS) was there but I only saw one of his Hondas not he in person. I think I saw Urulina arriving at the track at about 4:30 PM, if she left at 9:00 AM from Arlington as she told me she would it sure took her a long time to get there. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 25 10:32:54 1999 Return-Path: wowbager@XXXXXX Received: from brap-3.cais.net (brap-3.cais.net [205.252.14.37]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24062 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:32:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wowbager (dynamic72.cl7.cais.net [205.177.20.72]) by brap-3.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA04801 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:32:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001701be8edc$e3c461c0$4814b1cd@wowbager> From: "Mike B." To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: Crashing Sucks!!! Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:31:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Glad you're okay. the best place to crash is the track. lotsa help etc.. Mike B. 98 ZX900R -----Original Message----- From: Collin T. Fagan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 7:02 PM Subject: Crashing Sucks!!! >Yep folks, I blew it... Dicing with a friend and had the lead >(hopefully to stay) and I biffed it in turn 4 (fasterst turn on >course...about 135mph) Nice looooooong slide.... no real harm to me.. >sore, but nothing broken. Since I slid most of the way on my back , >the back protector and leathers kept me intact... wish I could say the >same for the leathers... big gaping hole in the center panel. > >Bike didn't fair all that well either.... It made it all the way into >the tire wall and did a good bounce number so it got whacked fairly >hard as well... Bodywork somewhat salvagable, left clipon broken, brake >lever damaged, left footpeg bracket torn off, and a bent >subframe.....Other than that not too bad.... > >Possibly could have had it ready again for tomorrow if I found parts, >but since I had a very generous offer of leathers and a bike, I'm going >to take my time putting the gixer back together.... > >I'll be out there on a very nice looking red and white F2 and solid >black leathers.... > >So come on out and see how I do on an underpowered bike ;-) > >Collin > >ps: did I mention that crashing sucks!!! lol >pps: now where did I put that Naproxin!!! > >=== >Collin T. Fagan >DC-Cycles Racing >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ >Proudly sponsored by: >Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) >Avon Racing Tyres >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 25 12:16:24 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25446 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24109 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:16:21 -0400 (EDT) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA15654 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX (4537) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vIATa19330 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:15:37 EDT Subject: First experience at summit... something to remember. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX The weekend started out when me and Jack went to pick up the 2 F2's out of storage. We left the storage unit at exactly 7:30, exactly when they lock the gate. No vehicles get in or out, regardless of whether or not you have the code. So after calling the main number, police, and local office, we had to dismantle the chain that held the gate closed...(perfect start to a perfect weekend). The next morning we got up bright and early and headed to summit. (Mustangs dont make good tow vehicles when coming though the hills on rt 7.) Excited about taking the Marrc school we hurried up there. Unfortunately we showed up right as the school was starting. Jacks bike had to be bump started a couple times since it had been sitting, and mine wasnt anwhere near being ready. So, I bit the bullet, helped jack start his bike, and then tried to find something to do. Thanks to Dawn who rides the Aprillia (pitted next to dc-cycles) who got me involved in cornerworking. They put me over in ten, a pretty good sweeper leading to the front straight. The only "action" I saw in that corner was earlier in the day when a rider locked up his rear brake and went into the mud. From what I heard over the Marrc radios was turns 1 and 4 were the turns where most riders had difficulty. Later in the day, right after lunch race 7b(lightwieght twins, I believe) were up. there were 48 riders in this pack, 3 wave start. In the first start some riders went off and the race was restarted after the cleanup was done. During the second start, somehow in the third wave, 4 riders went down right on the grid. Cornerworkers from 1,3, and 10 ran down to help cleanup. One of the riders walked off from what I understood, and 2 others were airlifted to fairfax, not sure on the 4th. This was a very humbling experience. The rest of the day was without much commotion, the legend cars provided there own little "frills" and such, and it was pretty cool to see the guys in the race school ripping it up around the track. All in all, I had an awesome time and will definately do it again. Now if I can just get things straight for the race school and give that another shot. Thanks to everyone I met and lent a hand.... Sean... From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 25 12:43:16 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25822 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24325 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.199.75]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA16092 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:43:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA06956 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:43:05 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma006954; Sun, 25 Apr 99 12:42:46 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990425123806.00a7d760@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:42:46 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Katana test ride Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_64341368==_.ALT" --=====================_64341368==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A Katana for sale was posted on the list earlier this week. I went out Saturday and took it for a spin. Very nice guy selling it - didn't really want me to ride it, but gave in after a little pressure. Just have to say - the bike is in perfect condition, has smooth power and handles well....just not enough power for me. It is a '97 with 9600 commuter miles, and he said he wants an F4. I guess I can see why...just didn't feel strong. Not that it wasn't fast...just not torquish (sp?). So, if anyone is looking for a good beginner cafe...this is it.... Original Message ----------------------------- Subject: 97 Katana for sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I found this on the VTR list. It's in the northern Va. area. Contact them, not me. http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/3972/ Chris Weaver _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 --=====================_64341368==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" A Katana for sale was posted on the list earlier this week.  I went out Saturday and took it for a spin.  Very nice guy selling it - didn't really want me to ride it, but gave in after a little pressure.

Just have to say - the bike is in perfect condition, has smooth power and handles well....just not enough power for me.  It is a '97 with 9600 commuter miles, and he said he wants an F4.  I guess I can see why...just didn't feel strong.  Not that it wasn't fast...just not torquish (sp?).

So, if anyone is looking for a good beginner cafe...this is it....

Original Message
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Subject: 97 Katana for sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
I found this on the VTR list. It's in the northern Va. area. Contact them,
not me.
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/3972/
Chris Weaver





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       mike@XXXXXX

        '91 Honda Nighthawk 750
--=====================_64341368==_.ALT-- From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 25 22:39:16 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA03236 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:39:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-234.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.234]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA27314 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:39:12 -0400 Message-ID: <0c2d01be8f8d$def7e020$36a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: Subject: Re: Crashing Sucks!!! Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:37:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Darn. It sounds like your cocoon prevented even a scar to tell the kids about. Hope the event is rare. Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> for racing, just a voyeur Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. -----Original Message----- From: Collin T. Fagan >Yep folks, I blew it... Dicing with a friend and had the lead >(hopefully to stay) and I biffed it in turn 4 (fasterst turn on >course...about 135mph) Nice looooooong slide.... no real harm to me.. >sore, but nothing broken. ...snip From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 25 23:01:00 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03552 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:00:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-234.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.234]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA27710 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:00:56 -0400 Message-ID: <0c3401be8f90$e7b64fa0$36a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: MC emissions testing Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:00:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0C31_01BE8F6F.5FCA7C40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0C31_01BE8F6F.5FCA7C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will the District be the first in the area to require motorcycle = emission testing? Anyone with experience here? >From the DC DMV came in the mail Friday a brochure talking about the new = DC Enhanced Vehicle Emissions Inspection Program covering "all = gasoline-powered vehicles registered in the District." This coincident = with the reopening of the renovated SW inspection station tomorrow. =20 Inspection Frequency for privately-owned vehicles -- every 2 years.=20 Exemptions: New vehicles are exempt from testing until they are 2 years = old. Antique vehicles (>=3D 25 yrs old)are exempt . . .. The march of progress. =20 Bill S. / DC=20 99 VN750 --> pass only the cleanest of gases Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. ------=_NextPart_000_0C31_01BE8F6F.5FCA7C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Will the District be = the first in the=20 area to require motorcycle emission testing?  Anyone with = experience=20 here?
 
From the DC DMV came in = the mail=20 Friday a brochure talking about the new DC Enhanced Vehicle Emissions = Inspection=20 Program covering "all gasoline-powered vehicles registered in the=20 District."  This coincident with the reopening of the = renovated SW=20 inspection station tomorrow. 
 
Inspection Frequency = for=20 privately-owned vehicles -- every 2 years.
 
Exemptions:  New = vehicles are=20 exempt from testing until they are 2 years old.  Antique vehicles = (>=3D 25=20 yrs old)are exempt . . ..
 
The march of = progress. =20
 
 
Bill S. / DC
99 = VN750 --> pass=20 only the cleanest of gases
Join the AMA.  Help protect my riding = fun.
------=_NextPart_000_0C31_01BE8F6F.5FCA7C40-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 00:18:05 1999 Return-Path: garicao@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (root@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA04474 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:18:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id AAA14527; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:17:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:17:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Garcia Oliver To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: stas118@XXXXXX Subject: A guy from Russia is looking for some mc help. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A fellow from Russia tells me that he bought a Yamaha 400. He doesn't have a driver's license or know how to ride, and: (a) would like someone to take his bike through DC inspection (for $). (b) would like riding lessons (also $) Anyone interested, please contact him directly, at "stas118@XXXXXX" or 301-496-0817 (w) or 202-484-8876. Also, if you have phone number/info for msf class, that may be most useful for him. (please cc me a copy.) Thanks. --garcia From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 07:38:39 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA10635 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A03A203101B8; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:38:34 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990426072754.0130b170@mail.toward.com> Message-Id: <4.1.19990426072754.0130b170@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:30:38 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Ventilated leather jacket for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" CoolTech Ventilated leather jacket $200 size 48, color - grey. Good condition, new jacket zipper, never been down. With snap-in quilted liner (with full sleeves) and outer windbreaker shell. Padding in elbows & shoulders. Jacket material is vented mesh in armpits, sides of chest, and inside of elbows. Vents in shoulder epaulets. Thick, motorcycle-grade leather. One inner slash pocket, two front pockets with snapped flaps and zippers. Waist and shoulder expansion panels for ease of movement. Chris Norloff chris@XXXXXX days (202)863-2680 x225 eves (703)534-1510 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 07:38:39 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA10636 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A031203101B8; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:38:34 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990426073041.01325a10@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:31:31 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Leather chaps for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ProTech leather chaps $75 Size XXL , color - black. Belt buckle in front, leather tie in back to adjust waist (adjusts up to about 42 in. waist). Leg zippers are on outside of legs (to not scratch the bike). Legs never trimmed, and were plenty long for my 34 in. inseam. Good condition, never been down. Chris Norloff chris@XXXXXX days (202)863-2680 x225 eves (703)534-1510 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 08:14:00 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11113 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A88365A0244; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:13:55 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990426074929.012bc020@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:59:22 -0400 To: "Dc-Cycles" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Near miss In-Reply-To: <000901be8d8f$5c4d4480$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> References: <000401be8d8b$ca3e3e80$0615b0cf@henrywin> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:44 AM 4/23/99 , Todd Peer wrote: >You know, I just don't recall anyone admitting that training is not helpful. >Hmmm... > >Todd There's lots of riders who say training would not be helpful to them - young males in particular. Also, I believe the Insurance Institute of Highway Safety (IIHS) has stated that there is no statistical difference in the accident rate and injury rate of motorcyclists with training and those without training. (I think it was them, they hate motorcycles. But I can't find a reference on their web site www.iihs.org). Personally, I believe the lack of statistical evidence speaks more to the difficulty of collecting and analyzing data, not the true lack of evidence. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 08:14:00 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11114 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A88565A0244; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:13:57 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990426080351.0129c350@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:07:45 -0400 To: "DC-Cycles" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Vehicle Decal Application In-Reply-To: <001001be8daa$29af8cc0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:55 PM 4/23/99 , Todd Peer wrote: >Fairfax wants $18 for a moto-decal. This is what they charge for a new >decal. What I am surprised about is that they offer NO PRO-RATE on a decal >that has lost its value from inception to date. So in effect, I'd be paying >a higher premium for a sticker that is half it's stated value. > >I'd be willing to file the return, w/o paying for the decal and just take a >chance of not getting caught by Mr. LEO. Anybody know the ramifications of >this? If I'm ticketed, how much? >Todd Not sure about Fairfax County - here in Falls Church city, the ticket is about $25-30 plus the cost of a sticker. I think if you go to court and show you've bought the sticker the judge will let you off (factor in time vs. money here). Me, I just buy the stickers. It's not worth the money to me to worry about getting stopped, then pay the ticket or use my vacation time to stand in a courtroom. Heck, file a formal protest with the county about not pro-rating the tax stickers - that might change things! Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 08:14:04 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11118 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A88665A0244; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:13:58 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990426080808.012bf230@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:08:58 -0400 To: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Vehicle Decal Application -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:30 PM 4/23/99 , JOE NAGY wrote: >Got nabbed in my truck about a year after moving down here. I think the >ticket was $25. Got totally reamed when we moved from City of Richmond >to Goochland Co. Moved in Feb, yet Richmond sent me to collection for >the entire year because "Goochland doesn't pro-rate." >Joe But they still charged you property tax only for the time the vehicle was in their county, didn't they? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 08:14:37 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11121 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA16919 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A88465A0244; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:13:56 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990426075929.012a1010@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:01:36 -0400 To: STARAI@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re:MSF technique In-Reply-To: <982b91fb.2451d65c@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Today Tracy Horstman, whom I believe always wears protective gear, wrote > how she pulled up beside a truck to protect herself from a tailgater - a > tactic taught in the highly-regarded Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) >course. > >At 09:57 AM 4/23/99 , STARAI@XXXXXX wrote: >What is this technique? I have taken courses and never heard of this. >Sounds like this is worth knowing. Tracy posted it earlier that same day (last Thursday). Basically it's just pulling up beside the car in front of you, or pulling up between the cars in front of you if you think the car behind you might not be able to stop in time. Rear end collisions are the most common type of wreck in this area and nationwide. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 09:24:39 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA12114 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:24:37 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA16865; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:24:25 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa16197; Mon, 26 Apr 99 09:23:47 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FAS00BPGT9NK2@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:25:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525675F.0049627E ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:21:33 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:14:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Crashing Sucks!!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525675F.004A0D1B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Sorry to hear about your crash, Collin. At least you weren't one of the guys who crashed coming into the carousel early on Sunday. It might have been in middleweight supersport, but I'm not sure. Two guys crashed at the same time, with their bikes ending up next to each other. One of the bikes burst into flames, and the other rider was frantically pulling his own bike out of the way lest it became kindling. The burning bike turned away the efforts of the first guy with a fire extinguisher, finally requiring three extinguishers to put out. By that time, the bike was already a write-off. I imagine they might get a part or two out of the mess, but not much more. 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From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 09:27:02 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA12191 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:26:07 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:26:01 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:24:48 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, gixer_racer@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Crashing Sucks!!! -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Crashing sucks, but CF's crash sucked less than the guy who started a VF500 bonfire in turn 5. A cornerworker emtied an entire extinguisher onto it and couldn't stop it. I think the rider was embarrassed--he vanished while it was still burning. Joe From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 10:02:20 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12677 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:02:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA10126; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:58:21 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990426140146.PYGS20027@toddnt>; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:01:46 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Chris Norloff" , "DC-Cycles" Subject: RE: Vehicle Decal Application Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:59:38 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01be8fed$065ea680$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <4.1.19990426080351.0129c350@mail.toward.com> Importance: Normal > > Heck, file a formal protest with the county about not pro-rating the tax > stickers - that might change things! > > Chris Norloff The thing is, is that Fairfax used to pro-rate. They also used to return the unused premium if you returned a sticker from a sold/crashed/whatever vehicle. Guess they need to find more ways to pay for that WAY too expensive gubmnt center. Todd From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 10:18:37 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12911 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990426142614.29373.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web307.yahoomail.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:26:14 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:26:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Did I say CRASHING SUCKS?!?!? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: wantazx6r@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What I meant to say was CRASHING REALLY SUCKS! Sunday for me was spent on a borrowed F2. Didn't take too long to get used to since the CBR's have a much tamer steering geometry and about 25 or more horsepower LESS to play with. First race was Unlimited Supersport. Held my own fairly well.. only place people were passing me was on the straights, and I could usually use the draft to tag along and hopefully pull away from them. 2 laps from the end, the exhaust hanger in the rear broke, and as a result the weight caused the pipe to come off right where the riser mates to the header! I ran over it iin T10 and didn't even realize what was going on till after the race...(so *that's* why things seemed louder those last two laps and the power seemed to drop off!!! Got passed at the finish line by a front wheel, so I finished 7th...not too bad. The pipe literally rolled off the track right to Brian, so him and Tom Zell were wating for me in the pit. After a mad scramble, it was put back on the bike (sort of) just in time for my next race. Since I had a 600 to ride, and a little money, I went ahead and entered two of the middleweight races.. although I knew I'd be gridded waaaay back in the back.. figured it would be fun for passing people... Great start again, after two laps, I had mowed down too many riders to count and I was barreling down on a big slow pack in T1. In fact, I was drafting all the way down the straight by my pit mate (and soon to be lister) Jeff Ozeman and his super sweet Jamie Hacking YZF600. Everyone braked waaay late, and space was getting tight. Jeff locked his front tire and went down just ahead and inside of me! His bike came slamming into me as I straightened up trying to miss it. No such luck. It hit me hard in the side. There's a tire print halfway up the bike! I stayed up, but had to run into the gravel trap. Got myself over to the access road at T2 and waited for direction to re-enter the race. When I started to go back on, i suddenly realized that the right side footpeg bracket is broken and twisted :( Race over, limped back to pits. Borrowed a peg bracket from another racer and got ready for the last two races (back to back) The heavyweight race was uneventful other than I didn't get quite as good a start and also got passed by stronger motors by a couple of guys at the finish... 10th... still not bad... In the races I finished, I was getting the 8 year old F2 down into the 1:24 lap time range! Imediately got ready for the final race of the day, Middleweight GP. I was gridded dead last (of about 60?? or so bikes) at the back of the third wave. Got a great start and went from the back to the front of the third wave in only a few hundred feet... caught the heels of the second wave by turn 1. Ate through numerous other riders over the first and second lap. On the third lap, I was quickly cathing a very slow pack about to enter turn 1. They all lined up nice and orderly and took a tight inside line into T1. So i planned on carrying my corner speed and go around them way out wide so they had plenty of room. Out of nowhere, a kawi rider stands it up and when he did, his tail section whacked my right clip on and brake. Instantly shot the bike out from under me. Head hit the pavement hard, but the helmet did it's job. I walk away again unharmed.... little bit of a headache today though ;-) The bike was fairly lucky too. Brake lever and foot peg broken and some rash on the fiberglass (mud tends to not hurt things too much!). Brian had a spare footpeg assembly at his house, so all I need to do now is get a new brake lever and patch up the fiberglass and add some paint to make it look decent again... Thanks to Jack for loaning me his bike. It is VERY well set up. Needs a touch more preload and compression in the rear (bad bucks at the new pavement transition in T2) and less compression in the front (bad front end chatter in T4), but otherwise, it is ready to rock and roll. I'll have her cleaned up and put back together ASAP...(It's not as bad as it sounds buddy...I'm really good with fiberglass too.... can't say as much for my painting capabilities though... but it will at least look decent... :)) Collin (who's got sore muscles EVERYWHERE today!) === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 10:23:44 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA13002 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:22:56 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:22:47 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:21:25 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Vehicle Decal Application -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Goochland's fees are so low, I'd consider the difference between 10 and 12 months insignificant. what really chapped my keister was Richmond screwing me for an entire year's worth when I lived there for less than 2 months. On top of all this, I still get bills from the pricks even though I haven't lived there in 5 years (and of course, they send the bill to my current address. Duh). Our tax dollars in action, I guess. Joe But they still charged you property tax only for the time the vehicle was in their county, didn't they? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 10:26:47 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA13051 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A79C8AA025E; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:26:36 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990426101720.012b2150@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:20:32 -0400 To: "Todd Peer" , "DC-Cycles" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Vehicle Decal Application In-Reply-To: <000a01be8fed$065ea680$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> References: <4.1.19990426080351.0129c350@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:59 AM 4/26/99 , Todd Peer wrote: >The thing is, is that Fairfax used to pro-rate. They also used to return >the unused premium if you returned a sticker from a sold/crashed/whatever >vehicle. Guess they need to find more ways to pay for that WAY too >expensive gubmnt center. >Todd I hear you there. Not refunding unused "sticker" and not pro-rating might actually save money - the paperwork to refund $9 would probably cost more than $9, for example. Now, as the various gov'ts go to computer-based systems, they could easily refund money by merely taking it off your personal property tax, for instance. I helped pay for the Fairfax County goverment building monstrosity. 2 people there said I needed an electrical permit to replace a circuit breaker - after I payed $56 the inspector said I didn't need a permit. I hate it when government workers don't know government requirements. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 10:43:20 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA13382 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:42:25 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:42:19 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:40:53 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Crashing Sucks!!! -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Yeah, the second rider had to be way pissed. First he gets knocked off his bike by the sliding Interceptor, then his bike almost becomes part of the bonfire! Joe >>> - 4/26/99 9:14 AM >>> Sorry to hear about your crash, Collin. At least you weren't one of the guys who crashed coming into the carousel early on Sunday. It might have been in middleweight supersport, but I'm not sure. Two guys crashed at the same time, with their bikes ending up next to each other. One of the bikes burst into flames, and the other rider was frantically pulling his own bike out of the way lest it became kindling. The burning bike turned away the efforts of the first guy with a fire extinguisher, finally requiring three extinguishers to put out. By that time, the bike was already a write-off. I imagine they might get a part or two out of the mess, but not much more. Chris Weaver ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 12:00:48 1999 Return-Path: WantAZX6r@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14576 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:00:29 -0400 (EDT) From: WantAZX6r@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6r@XXXXXX (14396) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rWICa18284; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:57:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5acf8988.2455e6d8@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:57:12 EDT Subject: Re: Did I say CRASHING SUCKS?!?!? To: gixer_racer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: WantAZX6r@XXXXXX Hey Collin, Sounds like you did a pretty good job on the ol heavy underpowered 8 year old F2 ;). Dont worry about the damage, anything that you cant fix Im sure I have a spare of on the other F2. You are quite welcome for the use of the machine, after all the times you have helped me out, its the least I owe ya (and Im glad it didnt hinder you too much on the track). Im also very glad to hear that you think its set up pretty well. If you think it needs any small changes to the suspension go right ahead and change it. Overall, Im glad it helped you out and is up to standard ;). Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 12:35:57 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15167 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:35:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgmqc24557; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8525675F.005B770C ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:39:02 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: WantAZX6r@XXXXXX cc: gixer_racer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525675F.005B76F2.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:27:54 -0400 Subject: Re: Did I say CRASHING SUCKS?!?!? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Yeah, and thanks, Jack, for lending the bike to Collin so we could see Collin's amazing skill on the track! Brian and I were watching that last race, it sorta went like this.... "Here comes Collin!! Wow, he's fast!" Next lap, "Look, he passed 2 or 3 riders!!" Next lap, "Uh, did you see Collin?" "No, did you?" "Uh oh...." "Did he crash AGAIN???" LOL All in all, a very fun day...We'll definitely be back! - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 WantAZX6r@XXXXXX on 04/26/99 11:57:12 AM To: gixer_racer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: Did I say CRASHING SUCKS?!?!? Hey Collin, Sounds like you did a pretty good job on the ol heavy underpowered 8 year old F2 ;). Dont worry about the damage, anything that you cant fix Im sure I have a spare of on the other F2. You are quite welcome for the use of the machine, after all the times you have helped me out, its the least I owe ya (and Im glad it didnt hinder you too much on the track). Im also very glad to hear that you think its set up pretty well. If you think it needs any small changes to the suspension go right ahead and change it. Overall, Im glad it helped you out and is up to standard ;). Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 14:15:50 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f191.hotmail.com [209.185.130.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16772 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96342 invoked by uid 0); 26 Apr 1999 18:15:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990426181517.96341.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.23 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:15:16 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.23] From: "Leon Begeman" To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, WantAZX6r@XXXXXX Cc: gixer_racer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Did I say CRASHING SUCKS?!?!? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:15:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Jeannette related the conversation: Brian and I were watching that last race, it sorta went like this.... >"Here comes Collin!! Wow, he's fast!" >Next lap, "Look, he passed 2 or 3 riders!!" >Next lap, "Uh, did you see Collin?" "No, did you?" >"Uh oh...." >"Did he crash AGAIN???" At turn one where Ursulina, Jay and I were watching, the conversation in one of the earlier races was: "Here comes Collin!! he's about 9th. Did that bike wobble coming off the turn?" Next lap "Wow, he's up to 7th, that bike sure bucks a lot coming off the concrete." Next lap "Oh my God, it bucked even worse that time. Next lap "Look, they're waving at us. It's a good thing the race ended when it did, I don't think he'd have saved it again." Leon. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 14:46:03 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (web806.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17243 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990426184313.1212.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:43:13 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:43:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: Fickle Females To: "DC Cycles" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Tracy will be riding the Connie up to Pennsylvania solo this weekend. Her first real moto-trip anywhere without me along. Should be about a 700 mile round-trip. She'll also be commuting to work with it this whole week (sigh.) She called me up and told me how much she missed riding it. I took her Savage to work this morning. I agreed with her, I miss the Connie already. :) She's wavering a little bit in our deal to buy her a 99 Connie later this year. Keeping her options open. Right now she's been eyeing up Kawasaki Voyagers! She likes the cruise-control, lower seat height, radio and speakers, and the rear trunk and bags. What can I say? I haven't met a Kawasaki yet that I didn't like (Well, ok, maybe that Drifter :) - and I think the V'ger suits her style of riding pretty well. It'll be an interesting summer... Dale == Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 14:55:20 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web302.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.184]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17346 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:55:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990426185630.2003.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web302.yahoomail.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:56:30 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:56:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Did I say CRASHING SUCKS?!?!? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know exactly what you're talking about.. that transition onto the new pavement at the exit of 2 is very violent. That's where Jack's bike would really benefit from a touch more compression damping in the rear and a bit stiffer pre-load too I think. It was working well enough most everywhere else on the track that I didn't want to fiddle with anything. That particular race, I had a guy right on my tail, and I wasn't going to back off for anything. That last lap though (or was it next to last.. can't remember) was a doozy. Both front and back end started shaking back and forth... Maybe it scared the chaser off my tail a bit ;-) Collin --- Leon Begeman wrote: > Next lap "Oh my God, it bucked even worse that time. > Next lap "Look, they're waving at us. It's a good thing the race > ended when it did, I don't think he'd have saved it again." > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 15:20:34 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17772 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:20:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgmqn29060 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8525675F.006A882A ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:23:36 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT cc: "DC Cycles" Message-ID: <8525675F.006A8740.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:12:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Fickle Females Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=kzaqLIzckgau2HhffJ3RRGi3Hr3bxau7u55Biuut95NJhOqkKky03bMb" Content-Disposition: inline --0__=kzaqLIzckgau2HhffJ3RRGi3Hr3bxau7u55Biuut95NJhOqkKky03bMb Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Speaking of fickle, after riding Tom's VFR partway home yesterday, I think I want to trade mine for his! ; ) It's got so much more POWER in the low end...not to mention the throaty growl of the exhaust. That really can't be beat.... - Jeannette '86 VFR 700F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Dale Horstman on 04/26/99 02:43:13 PM To: "DC --0__=kzaqLIzckgau2HhffJ3RRGi3Hr3bxau7u55Biuut95NJhOqkKky03bMb Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable =A0Cycles" cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Fickle Females = --0__=kzaqLIzckgau2HhffJ3RRGi3Hr3bxau7u55Biuut95NJhOqkKky03bMb Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Tracy will be riding the Connie up to Pennsylvania solo this weekend. Her first real moto-trip anywhere without me along. Should be about a 700 mile round-trip. She'll also be commuting to work with it this whole week (sigh.) She called me up and told me how much she missed riding it. I took her Savage to work this morning. I agreed with her, I miss the Connie already. :) She's wavering a little bit in our deal to buy her a 99 Connie later this year. Keeping her options open. Right now she's been eyeing up Kawasaki Voyagers! She likes the cruise-control, lower seat height, radio and speakers, and the rear trunk and bags. What can I say? I haven't met a Kawasaki yet that I didn't like (Well, ok, maybe that Drifter :) - and I think the V'ger suits her style of riding pretty well. It'll be an interesting summer... Dale == Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --0__=kzaqLIzckgau2HhffJ3RRGi3Hr3bxau7u55Biuut95NJhOqkKky03bMb-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 16:03:46 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18387 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:03:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA13487 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:03:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA19095 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 440 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:03:26 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990426155813.01900170@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:03:23 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Entertaining thoughts FS:CB750 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am seriously thinking about buying a new VFR or F4. Maybe even a year old VFR. In that spirit, I am entertaining offers for my '91 Nighthawk 750. I love the bike...just need a little more wind protection and perhaps a bit more power. You all may recall that I bought the bike last July. Perfect condition, 11k miles, tank bad, soft saddle bags, bike cover, Corbin seat on order, runs great and looks great. $2400 Firm. Let me know if you are interested. And if anyone has a VFR for sale, let me know. MT ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 Fairing for sale - $50 Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 16:03:51 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18385 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:03:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:02:47 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:02:44 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:01:25 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, the_horkster@XXXXXX Subject: Fickle Females -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Aw, c'mon, man! Din't you read their ad? It sez the Drifter features "authentic styling" PLUS all kindsa high-tech hoobydoowah. Cripes, it'll probly make all those old Indians obsolete. I mean, it must be some kinda bike fer it ta have all that goin fer it! Joe What can I say? I haven't met a Kawasaki yet that I didn't like (Well, ok, maybe that Drifter :) - and I think the V'ger suits her style of riding pretty well. It'll be an interesting summer... Dale == Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 16:33:27 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18872 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:33:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D86J46N9; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:31:03 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: What I passed up... Message-ID: <19990426.232730.8111.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 27-30 From: Bikes R Us Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:31:03 EDT I was sitting at my desk last Friday, minding my own business, when the thunderous roar of a what sounded like a '68 Camaro street rod wafted in from the parking lot. Since I'm a sucker for a cool hot rod, I ran outside to see what it was. Imagine my surprise when I spied not a Camaro or a Mustang or even a Barracuda, but a motorcycle. Right there in the sunlight was a sparkling maroon (with subtle flames) real live Boss Hoss with a Chevy 350 V8 and DUAL nitrous bottles! The guy was very friendly and said I was more than welcome to take it for a spin. Feeling my mortality a little more than usual, I said, "Uhhh, no thanks. I'd be the one guy it fell on, but I wouldn't mind sitting on it." He agreed and I threw a leg over it. Lifting it off the sidestand was less difficult than expected. Even the smallest of you could have done it and balancing it was easier than any bike I've ever sat. This is due primarily to the width of the rear tire, which was in the neighborhood of a 235. Apparently, those Boss Hosses equipped with 50-series car tires don't even need a kickstand. They stand on their own, like a dragbike. Anyway, the owner put the key in the ignition and fired up the beast. It growled to life under me and I had the sensation of sitting spreadeagled in the engine compartment of a race car. The owner twisted his wrist in the air, showing me the universal "Give it some gas gas" sign. So I did. I cracked the throttle just a bit and was rewarded not only with the expected roar, but also with a most unexpected and violent jerk to the right. This drew a lot of laughs from the assembled crowd. The motor has so much torque that it twists everything over when you gun it. The owner said that if you want to leave a light in a hurry, you have to lean the bike over to the left before you hit the gas. Then, when you juice it, the bike stands straight up and shoots away at ludicrous speed. Not for the faint of heart and I was feeling too faint of heart to try it... Ah well... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 16:58:33 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA19251 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:58:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA14482 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:58:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA20947 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:58:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990426210106.27624.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.36.23] by web301.yahoomail.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:01:06 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:01:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Entertaining thoughts FS:CB750 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ack!! Another Honda freak!!! lol Wait till Brain (aka Net Turd) gets back in the office tomorrow.. he'll probably be able to point you to about a dozen of them within 5 minutes...the boy can find deals! --- Mike Troutman wrote: > And if anyone has a VFR for sale, let me know. > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 17:17:19 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19550 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:17:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-174.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.174]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA27840 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:17:13 -0400 Message-ID: <0db001be902a$0da38900$36a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: MC emissions testing (cont.) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:15:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0DAD_01BE9008.71647660" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0DAD_01BE9008.71647660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Update. On a whim (why just a whim, I should know better) I today = called the number listed on the Friday brochure (202 576 8865) to double = check applicability to motorcycles. A male voice passed this = information: "Oh, we never check motorcycles or mopeds." Wow. =20 I've turned it over to Dr. Gridlock of the Post to clarify both emission = testing for motorcycles and why the inaccurate info from one place or = the other.=20 Watch this and that space. =20 Bill ****** first post follows Will the District be the first in the area to require motorcycle = emission testing? Anyone with experience here? =20 >From the DC DMV came in the mail Friday a brochure talking about the new = DC Enhanced Vehicle Emissions Inspection Program covering "all = gasoline-powered vehicles registered in the District." This coincident = with the reopening of the renovated SW inspection station tomorrow. =20 =20 Inspection Frequency for privately-owned vehicles -- every 2 years.=20 =20 Exemptions: New vehicles are exempt from testing until they are 2 years = old. Antique vehicles (>=3D 25 yrs old)are exempt . . .. =20 The march of progress. =20 Bill S. / DC=20 99 VN750 --> pass only the cleanest of gases Join the AMA. 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Update.  On = a whim (why=20 just a whim, I should know better) I today called the number listed on = the=20 Friday brochure (202 576 8865) to double check applicability to=20 motorcycles.  A male voice passed this information:  "Oh, = we=20 never check motorcycles or mopeds."  Wow. 
 
I've turned it over to Dr. Gridlock of the Post to clarify both = emission=20 testing for motorcycles and why the inaccurate info from one place or = the other.=20
 
Watch this and that space. 
 
Bill
 
****** first post follows
 
Will the District be = the first in the=20 area to require motorcycle emission testing?  Anyone with = experience=20 here?
 
From the DC DMV came in = the mail=20 Friday a brochure talking about the new DC Enhanced Vehicle Emissions = Inspection=20 Program covering "all gasoline-powered vehicles registered in the=20 District."  This coincident with the reopening of the = renovated SW=20 inspection station tomorrow. 
 
Inspection Frequency = for=20 privately-owned vehicles -- every 2 years.
 
Exemptions:  New = vehicles are=20 exempt from testing until they are 2 years old.  Antique vehicles = (>=3D 25=20 yrs old)are exempt . . ..
 
The march of = progress. =20
 
 
Bill S. / DC
99 = VN750 --> pass=20 only the cleanest of gases
Join the AMA.  Help protect my riding = fun.
------=_NextPart_000_0DAD_01BE9008.71647660-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 17:37:57 1999 Return-Path: sayatm@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19852 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:37:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (207-172-113-176.s176.tnt5.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.113.176]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07264 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:36:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3724DCF1.2D51@erols.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:38:57 -0400 From: sayat Reply-To: sayatm@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody I have a question to all of you. Yesterday night while speeding on 66 and 495 (130-140mph) I got caught by a police officer(va). He gave a reckless driving ticket. My court day is on May 19th. -How much money do I have to pay ?? -What will happen if I don't show up?? I know that if I don't show up my license will be suspended but are there any other penalties. Thanks........ Sayat Muratoglu 98 YZF-600 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 17:53:29 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA20116 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:53:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX (226) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id nYFBa17637; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <803a3e44.245638b5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:46:29 EDT Subject: Re: Questions To: sayatm@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Reply-To: Eternity23@XXXXXX Um....fine....A LOT. Save your pennies. You might want a lawyer on that one... -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 18:15:59 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from gecko.troutman.org (root@XXXXXX [216.164.231.182]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA20547 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA07477; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:15:43 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma007475; Mon, 26 Apr 99 18:15:14 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990426181206.00987cd0@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:15:12 -0400 To: sayatm@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Re: Questions In-Reply-To: <3724DCF1.2D51@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:38 PM 4/26/99 -0400, sayat wrote: >Hi everybody I have a question to all of you. Yesterday night while >speeding on 66 and 495 (130-140mph) I got caught by a police >officer(va). He gave a reckless driving ticket. My court day is on May >19th. >-How much money do I have to pay ?? >-What will happen if I don't show up?? I know that if I don't show up my >license will be suspended but are there any other penalties. If I had to guess, you are going to lose your license. There is always the possibility that the cop will not show up in court. It does happen. Get a good lawyer, or you will most assuredly be riding the bus for a while. I believe the fine starts at $500. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 18:25:26 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA20741 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:25:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA15806 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web508.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.75]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA23662 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:25:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990426222757.27784.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web508.yahoomail.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:27:57 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:27:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: RE: DC Cycles Shirts To: "Horstman, Tracy L" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Todd mentioned some people might have missed out on the DC Cycles t-shirts and want to order some. If you are interested after seeing the shirts, the best thing would be for somebody in that group to gather orders and collect checks. I believe Franz Muller, the lister who did a great job on the first batch, still has the pattern so the shirts could be printed quickly and possibly in smaller numbers. Franz's number is 410-560-9074. Thanks for the thanks on the t-shirts, Tracy. I'm surprised that you were surprised. The only thing significantly different from the internet logo was the lack of gradient in the letters "DC," and in asking for orders I said the letters would have to be solid because a gradient would be impossible or expensive, according to people on the list and the shops. Sorry if you missed this. Sean Sullivan --- "Horstman, Tracy L" wrote: > Dale picked up our shirts. Guess I missed something > cause the don't look > like the picture that was picked. Guess it has to > do with the silk > screening process. Just wanted to thank Sean for > his efforts and Todd for > distribution. > BUT, I don't really like them too much. AND gonna > wear it anyways because > it has DC Cycles on it. I just think the colors are > harsh and the gray > wasn't like the gray I thought it would be. Dale > says it stands out from my > other Girl Scout t-shirts so I won't get it confused > with them. Who knows, > maybe the colors will eventually grow on me 'till I > like it. > > Thanks again - yes I would purchase another T-shirt > if I had to do it all > over again. > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 19:04:38 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA21479 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990426230803.25907.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.36.23] by web304.yahoomail.com; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:08:03 PDT Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:08:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Questions To: sayatm@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nice flame attempts... in this state you'd be spending the night in jail for those speeds.... (coworker got to spend 3 days for going 97 in a 55). === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 19:38:09 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA22090 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:38:08 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id JKYRHQ9L; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:38:10 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31PSM3; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:38:11 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 8525675F.0081D436 ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:38:04 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525675F.00817B28.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:36:53 -0400 Subject: T-Shirt Meet Is there a meet scheduled this weekend to pick up t-shirts? Thanks, DJ From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 19:46:11 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA22210 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA16809 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:46:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA25348 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursulina (207-172-142-148.s148.tnt21.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.142.148]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA18449 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <02eb01be9057$a8afca80$f357accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: Subject: Re: DC Cycles Shirts Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:42:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Maybe Todd or Dale and Tracy need to have another DC Cycles party??? ;) - - Ursulina -----Original Message----- From: Sean Sullivan To: Horstman, Tracy L ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 3:30 PM Subject: RE: DC Cycles Shirts > Todd mentioned some people might have missed out on >the DC Cycles t-shirts and want to order some. If you >are interested after seeing the shirts, the best thing >would be for somebody in that group to gather orders >and collect checks. I believe Franz Muller, the lister >who did a great job on the first batch, still has the >pattern so the shirts could be printed quickly and >possibly in smaller numbers. Franz's number is >410-560-9074. > Thanks for the thanks on the t-shirts, Tracy. I'm >surprised that you were surprised. The only thing >significantly different from the internet logo was the >lack of gradient in the letters "DC," and in asking >for orders I said the letters would have to be solid >because a gradient would be impossible or expensive, >according to people on the list and the shops. Sorry >if you missed this. > Sean Sullivan > > >--- "Horstman, Tracy L" >wrote: >> Dale picked up our shirts. Guess I missed something >> cause the don't look >> like the picture that was picked. Guess it has to >> do with the silk >> screening process. Just wanted to thank Sean for >> his efforts and Todd for >> distribution. >> BUT, I don't really like them too much. AND gonna >> wear it anyways because >> it has DC Cycles on it. I just think the colors are >> harsh and the gray >> wasn't like the gray I thought it would be. Dale >> says it stands out from my >> other Girl Scout t-shirts so I won't get it confused >> with them. Who knows, >> maybe the colors will eventually grow on me 'till I >> like it. >> >> Thanks again - yes I would purchase another T-shirt >> if I had to do it all >> over again. >> > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 19:55:13 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA22314 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA16894 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:55:09 -0400 (EDT) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (zbig@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA25485 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id TAA03434; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904262355.TAA03434@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: Entertaining thoughts FS:CB750 To: mike@XXXXXX (Mike Troutman) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990426155813.01900170@mail.wheatintl.com> from "Mike Troutman" at Apr 26, 99 04:03:23 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > You all may recall that I bought the bike last July. Perfect condition, > 11k miles, tank bad, soft saddle bags, bike cover, Corbin seat on order, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ what is bad with the tank ? Too much drugs inside ? dents from outside? wrong paint color ? _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 20:03:08 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA22453 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:03:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer (207-172-52-89.s89.tnt1.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.52.89]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id UAA18524; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:02:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "LindaT" To: "cbr" , "DC-CYCLES" Subject: Chills up my spine Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:05:39 -0400 Message-ID: <007001be9041$af396200$d475accf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal One of my neighbors stopped me tonight as I was returning home to tell me his bike (very nice black VFR) had been stolen last week. It has been recovered and is being repaired and they caught the perps (love them cop shows). After speaking to him, I remembered that one morning last week, I came out and it was obvious to me that the cover on my bike had been disturbed. I straightened it out and didn't think anything of it. ACK!! They looked at mine as a potential theft-object and rejected it. Hey, wait a minute. My bike isn't worth stealing?? I'm happy they didn't steal it, but am disappointed that they didn't like it enough. Don't like custom paint job?? My consolation, is that the side with the busted fairing was the side disturbed. Moral of this story - leave the broken bits broken, they might be useful. Secondarily, have someone with a really nice bike living nearby ;-) Tonight, I REALLY must find that lock that I put away before I went on vacation at Christmas. I put it somewhere safe. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (54K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 21:01:30 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm02sm.pmm.cw.net (pm02sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.151]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA23247 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr38-dialup18.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.75.82]) by PM02SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35316) with SMTP id <0FAT000IHPHE3Q@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:00:55 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:00:18 +0000 From: Jon Subject: Re: Questions To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <00c001be9027$cd0c1d00$524b3ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal ID-I-OT Jon -----Original Message----- From: sayat To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 9:46 PM Subject: Questions >Hi everybody I have a question to all of you. Yesterday night while >speeding on 66 and 495 (130-140mph) I got caught by a police >officer(va). He gave a reckless driving ticket. My court day is on May >19th. >-How much money do I have to pay ?? >-What will happen if I don't show up?? I know that if I don't show up my >license will be suspended but are there any other penalties. > >Thanks........ > >Sayat Muratoglu >98 YZF-600 > From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 21:57:44 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA24036 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-53.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.53]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA03063 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:57:40 -0400 Message-ID: <0e4401be9051$3bb1a080$36a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: FS: Starter Bike Vulcan 500 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:56:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0E41_01BE902F.B3D69600" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0E41_01BE902F.B3D69600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From the Vulcan List. This has been listed several times over the past = month or so. For the the right situation, and with a little = negotiating, this could be a fine opportunity. Reply to him not me. =20 Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> Proud to be a cousin of the EN500 Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. ******* FOR SALE: 1996 Vulcan 500LTD (EN500C1) color - black mica (dark purple) only 2000 miles !!! - original owner extended warranty until 3/2001 Fire & Steel leather saddle bags & tank panel with pocket Fire & Steel chorme parts: caliper piston cover saddle bag brackets horn cover steering crown nut cover bike is as new - garage kept !! purchased new - March 1997 BEST OFFER OVER $3000.00 ************************ jeff newton, nj ifly@XXXXXX ------=_NextPart_000_0E41_01BE902F.B3D69600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From the Vulcan = List.  This has=20 been listed several times over the past month or so.  For the the = right=20 situation, and with a little negotiating, this could be a fine=20 opportunity.  Reply to him not me. 
 
Bill S. / DC
99 = VN750 --> Proud=20 to be a cousin of the EN500
Join the AMA.  Help protect my = riding=20 fun.

*******
 
FOR=20 SALE:

          = 1996=20 Vulcan 500LTD=20 (EN500C1)
          = color=20 - black mica (dark=20 purple)
           = only=20 2000 miles !!! - original=20 owner
           = extended=20 warranty until=20 3/2001
           = Fire=20 & Steel leather saddle bags & tank panel with=20 pocket
           = Fire=20 & Steel chorme=20 parts:
          &nb= sp;       =20 caliper piston=20 cover
          &nbs= p;       =20 saddle bag=20 brackets
          &= nbsp;       =20 horn=20 cover
          &nbs= p;       =20 steering crown nut=20 cover

          = bike=20 is as new - garage kept=20 !!
           = purchased new=20 - March = 1997

           = BEST OFFER OVER=20 $3000.00
           = ************************

  jeff
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= ------=_NextPart_000_0E41_01BE902F.B3D69600-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 22:10:01 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA24195 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:10:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA18248 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [216.164.231.182]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA28086 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:09:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA07580; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:09:47 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma007575; Mon, 26 Apr 99 22:09:17 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990426220834.00a86520@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:08:53 -0400 To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) From: Mike T Subject: Re: Entertaining thoughts FS:CB750 Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199904262355.TAA03434@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> References: <4.1.19990426155813.01900170@mail.wheatintl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Damn typos! That was a good one....TANK BAG ;-) At 07:55 PM 4/26/99 -0400, zbig@XXXXXX wrote: > >> You all may recall that I bought the bike last July. Perfect condition, >> 11k miles, tank bad, soft saddle bags, bike cover, Corbin seat on order, > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >what is bad with the tank ? Too much drugs inside ? dents from outside? >wrong paint color ? > >_zjt >-- >******************************************************************** >Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX >Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... ______________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org =================================== No sig today..... =================================== DNRC member since '97 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 26 22:17:44 1999 Return-Path: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (zbig@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA24313 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:17:40 -0400 (EDT) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA03707; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904270217.WAA03707@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: Questions To: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX (Jon) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:17:29 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <00c001be9027$cd0c1d00$524b3ea6@0302104396168270> from "Jon" at Apr 26, 99 09:00:18 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > >Hi everybody I have a question to all of you. Yesterday night while > >speeding on 66 and 495 (130-140mph) I got caught by a police > >officer(va). He gave a reckless driving ticket. My court day is on May > >19th. > >-How much money do I have to pay ?? > >-What will happen if I don't show up?? I know that if I don't show up my > >license will be suspended but are there any other penalties. > > > >Thanks........ > > > >Sayat Muratoglu > >98 YZF-600 > > > it's a troll. let it die, or we will have another flame fest. don't ya know that: yama 600 cannot do more than 105 mph... there is no way in hell you can do more than 100 mph on VA roads... motorcycles do not work/ride at night, since tey need sunlight to create ignition spark... ( insert your part of irrelevant crap _HERE_ ) _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 06:27:56 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA01902 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:27:12 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFB27@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Questions Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:27:06 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Gotta agree with Collin here. This has to be flame bait. I had a friend in the office a few years back go to jail for doing 90 in a 55 around Richmond. Maybe he's sending the e-mail from the jail in Fairfax City? ;-) Glenn >Hi everybody I have a question to all of you. Yesterday night while >speeding on 66 and 495 (130-140mph) I got caught by a police >officer(va). He gave a reckless driving ticket. My court day is on May >19th. >-How much money do I have to pay ?? >-What will happen if I don't show up?? I know that if I don't show up my >license will be suspended but are there any other penalties. From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 06:41:38 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA02034 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:40:50 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFB2C@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: DC Cycles Shirts Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:40:37 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) If its at Todd's the thief better stay away! Glenn >Maybe Todd or Dale and Tracy need to have another DC Cycles party??? ;) From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 07:09:11 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA02425 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:09:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA22781 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:08:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv11-14.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.14) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma022768; Tue Apr 27 06:08:24 1999 Message-ID: <000a01be909e$19276fc0$0e5e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "'dc'" Subject: Norton Motorcycles.... Very Long but interesting... Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:07:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Minneapolis, MN. - (AMN) Hallmark Properties, Inc. has acquired the = assets of Norton Motors International in a strategic acquisition made 16 = April.=20 A 1-for-42 reverse stock split will occur soon. After the split, Norton = Motors International will own 6 million shares in Hallmark out of = 6,999,612 common shares outstanding. Hallmark is changing its name to = Norton Motorcycles Inc. (``Norton'') and its ticker symbol to NMOT. The = acquisition includes all Norton trademarks, its Shenstone, England, = assembly plant and all motorcycle and engine designs and prototypes. = Based on successful tests to date of the NEMESIS and MANX models, Norton = expects to complete its initial motorcycle development program later = this year. Genesis Capital Group of Minneapolis has agreed to invest an = initial $1 million in Norton.=20 Mark Osterberg will serve as Norton's Chief Executive Officer/Chief = Financial Officer. From 1990-1998, Osterberg served as Vice = President-Finance and Chief Accounting Officer of Northwest Airlines. He = brings more than 25 years of finance and management experience to = Norton.=20 Myron Calof, formerly Chief Executive Officer of NMI, will serve as = Senior Vice President. Calof served as Chief Executive Officer of NMI = following its acquisition in March 1998 of the assets of Norton = Motorcycles Limited of the United Kingdom. He has previously been a = senior officer of two major Canadian development/investment = organizations and practiced law. Calof brings to Norton almost 27 years = of experience in legal affairs, finance, business and corporate = management.=20 John Fiebelkorn will be Norton's Managing Director of Sales, after 20 = years at Polaris Industries, where he most recently served as Vice = President/International Sales.=20 The Board of Directors will be comprised of John Tastad of Minneapolis = and Roberto Aquilini of Vancouver, British Columbia, in addition to = Calof and Osterberg.=20 Norton has now road-tested two of its initial models, which were = designed by Melling Consultancy Design (MCD) of Rochdale, England. The = NEMESIS and MANX are powered by 1500 cc V-8 and 750 cc in-line-four = engines respectively, which were designed for Norton by MCD. These = engines have been in testing since last year. Motor Cycle News has said = that ``the sight and sound of the 16-valve (MANX) machine firing into = life marks another milestone in Norton's comeback story'' and described = the NEMESIS as the ``Hit of the Show,'' referring to last November's = Birmingham Motorcycle Show. The first NEMESIS in North America is now on = public display at Leo's South in Lakeville, Minn.=20 Newly designed Norton apparel and personal accessories will be available = on the company's website on 1 May. Norton has signed an extensive = license agreement with Canadian-based Wilson International of Vancouver. = Wilson has more than 25 years of licensing experience in association = with numerous organizations such as Molson Indy Racing and the British = Commonwealth Games. The new Norton merchandise will first be available = from the company's website and will be distributed to retailers in the = UK, USA and elsewhere later this year. Norton's internet website ( = http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com ) is being upgraded and will relaunch 1 = May.=20 Headquartered in Plymouth, Minn., with production facilities in England, = Norton Motorcycles will market a line of motorcycles and motorcycle = products throughout the world. Norton is presently engaged in the design = and development and of a line of high-performance, premium motorcycles = and the marketing of motorcycle products. All of the products will be = sold under the famous ``Norton'' brand name, which will provide its = motorcycles with worldwide appeal and brand recognition among motorcycle = enthusiasts. In addition to the NEMESIS and MANX, Norton is developing a = V-Twin model.=20 Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 07:11:11 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA02438 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA22892 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:10:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv11-14.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.14) by dfw-ix15.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma022878; Tue Apr 27 06:10:05 1999 Message-ID: <001401be909e$5574c0e0$0e5e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "'dc'" Subject: Not a Surprise, PA Helmet Law Defeated.. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:08:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE907C.CCFB0560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE907C.CCFB0560 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0011_01BE907C.CCFB0560" ------=_NextPart_001_0011_01BE907C.CCFB0560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Pennsylvania State Senate kills helmet-law repeal=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 April 22, 1999=20 Harrisburg, Pa. - (AMN) Riders who supported this bill = were shocked as a proposal to repeal the Pennsylvania helment law was = defeated in the state senate by a 26-24 vote. This same bill passed the = Senates last session only to be vetoed by Gov. 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Harrisburg, Pa. = - (AMN)=20 Riders who supported this bill were shocked as a = proposal to=20 repeal the Pennsylvania helment law was defeated in = the state=20 senate by a 26-24 vote. This same bill passed the = Senates last=20 session only to be vetoed by Gov. Ridge.=20

Ken S.
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HDKnight1 on AOL Instant=20 messenger
HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager
kshephard@XXXXXX
1996 XLH = 1200
Ride=20 Safe
Inwood, WV
------=_NextPart_001_0011_01BE907C.CCFB0560-- ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE907C.CCFB0560 Content-Type: image/gif; name="clearpixel.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Location: http://www.americanmotor.com/clearpixel.gif R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAAAAACH5BAEBAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw== ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BE907C.CCFB0560-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 08:03:34 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f164.hotmail.com [209.185.131.227]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA03126 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 96698 invoked by uid 0); 27 Apr 1999 12:02:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427120238.96697.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.23 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 05:02:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.23] From: "Leon Begeman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: What I passed up... Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 05:02:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain That bike showed up at Summit Point on Sunday. I agree it is a very nice looking bike. If I had the money to own a half-a-dozen new bikes, one like that would get serious consideration. It's good to see it gets ridden once in a while. Leon. >From: Bikes R Us >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: What I passed up... >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:31:03 EDT > >I was sitting at my desk last Friday, minding my own business, when the >thunderous roar of a what sounded like a '68 Camaro street rod wafted in >from the parking lot. Since I'm a sucker for a cool hot rod, I ran >outside to see what it was. Imagine my surprise when I spied not a Camaro >or a Mustang or even a Barracuda, but a motorcycle. Right there in the >sunlight was a sparkling maroon (with subtle flames) real live Boss Hoss >with a Chevy 350 V8 and DUAL nitrous bottles! The guy was very friendly >and said I was more than welcome to take it for a spin. Feeling my >mortality a little more than usual, I said, "Uhhh, no thanks. I'd be the >one guy it fell on, but I wouldn't mind sitting on it." He agreed and I >threw a leg over it. Lifting it off the sidestand was less difficult than >expected. Even the smallest of you could have done it and balancing it >was easier than any bike I've ever sat. This is due primarily to the >width of the rear tire, which was in the neighborhood of a 235. >Apparently, those Boss Hosses equipped with 50-series car tires don't >even need a kickstand. They stand on their own, like a dragbike. Anyway, >the owner put the key in the ignition and fired up the beast. It growled >to life under me and I had the sensation of sitting spreadeagled in the >engine compartment of a race car. The owner twisted his wrist in the air, >showing me the universal "Give it some gas gas" sign. So I did. I cracked >the throttle just a bit and was rewarded not only with the expected roar, >but also with a most unexpected and violent jerk to the right. This drew >a lot of laughs from the assembled crowd. The motor has so much torque >that it twists everything over when you gun it. The owner said that if >you want to leave a light in a hurry, you have to lean the bike over to >the left before you hit the gas. Then, when you juice it, the bike stands >straight up and shoots away at ludicrous speed. Not for the faint of >heart and I was feeling too faint of heart to try it... Ah well... > > >JohnDavid@Bikes R Us > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 08:25:36 1999 Return-Path: redbelly@XXXXXX Received: from helix.nih.gov (helix.nih.gov [128.231.2.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03387 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from boo.net ([156.40.49.10]) by helix.nih.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA1507695; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:25:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3725AC8C.52CA7F80@boo.net> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:24:44 -0400 From: Jay Goddard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , swifty Subject: Great bike Forsale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This bike belongs to a good friend of mine. This bike is in great shape. Email him for pictures. 1980 Suzuki 850 GL w/ Full Vetter Package, Incl Lowers. Has radio/’tape. New battery, new rear tire, all fluids fresh, brakes great, new custom seat cover. READY TO RIDE ANYWHERE!!! This is a very economical Touring Bike!! Asking $2750 obo only 19,000 miles Thanks John Swift 202-966-0889 cbxturbo@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 08:26:40 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03397 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id ACFD138901F6; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:26:37 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990427081354.012a4f10@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:14:22 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Questions In-Reply-To: <3724DCF1.2D51@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:38 PM 4/26/99 , sayat wrote: >Hi everybody I have a question to all of you. Yesterday night while >speeding on 66 and 495 (130-140mph) I got caught by a police >officer(va). He gave a reckless driving ticket. My court day is on May >19th. >-How much money do I have to pay ?? >-What will happen if I don't show up?? I know that if I don't show up my >license will be suspended but are there any other penalties. >Sayat Muratoglu Get a lawyer. Right away. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 08:42:45 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03677 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:42:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id IAA02440; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:42:38 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id IAA00522; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:42:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:42:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: Nomad cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: My corner working experience In-Reply-To: <19990426201601.23306.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Corner working was fun and very intense. They worker part or Corner Worker is not a joke I was very very tired by the end of the weekend. I worked on turn 1 at the end of the straight on Saturday and saw way too many wrecks. There was also a very bad wreck on the straight at the start of a race and we had to evacuate two riders by helicopter. On Sunday I was stationed at turn 3 which was an all around much more pleasant experience. Around 2pm in the afternoon I was standing at my station thinking what a nice day it was and how easy I had it when all of a sudden a bike comes off the track and tumbling towards me with the rider flying through the air with the greatest of ease. That will wake your ass up in a hurry ! I jumped off the berm and running to pick up the bike and passed the rider running in the opposite direction which I found kind of funny. I wasn't sure if I wanted to take up road racing next year or get my pilots license but after seeing all those "incidents" (track speak for accident) I think I'll go for a pilots license. All in all though it was a lot of fun and I plan to do it again. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 08:43:02 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03687 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A0CECC501F4; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:42:54 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990422075859.012a1570@mail.toward.com> Message-Id: <4.1.19990422075859.012a1570@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:27:56 -0400 To: Dale Horstman , DC Cycles From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Super Shield In-Reply-To: <371E8505.E38078A@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:10 PM 4/21/99 , Dale Horstman wrote: >Thought you might want to take a look at the big homemade >windshield I've got mounted on the new Concours. It's pretty >kewl. >http://www.tidalwave.net/~horstman/shield.html >Dale Looks good, Dale. Very professional job. I'd like a bigger but adjustable windshield on my bike. Bigger for less wind in the cold, and less wind when riding with my wife (she gets a sore neck) but adjustable so I can get more cooling wind when I need it. BMW makes a windshield with hinged side wings that may do the trick. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 08:46:49 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03728 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA09263 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:46:33 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990427124609.XXSW20027@toddnt> for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:46:09 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: FW: Letter to Dr. Gridlock Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:44:03 -0400 Message-ID: <000c01be90ab$a1804ce0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Don't know who all sent a note of thanks to Dr. Gridlock for the article about safe/easy commuting on the HOV lanes, but I got this note from the assistant to Dr. Gridlock this morning. Watch for the next article. Todd > Mr. Peer: > > Thank you for your recent letter to the Dr. Gridlock column. > > Dr. Gridlock is interested in addressing your letter in an > upcoming column. > It is our policy to include the author's first and last name, city and > state in the column with their letter. Would you please contact me to let > me know your city and state? It would also be helpful to Dr. Gridlock if > he could have a phone number where he could reach you, if he has any more > questions (the phone number will NOT be put in to print). > > Thank you very much. > > Regards, > Jessica Medinger > Assistant to Dr. Gridlock > medingerj@XXXXXX > #703-279-3233 > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 09:00:58 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03982 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:00:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990427130317.24409.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web301.yahoomail.com; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:03:17 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:03:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Not a Surprise, PA Helmet Law Defeated.. To: Ken , "'dc'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Talk about trying to confuse me early in the morning, Ken.... The subject line makes me think the helmet law is repealed. However, what the text is saying is that the helmet law was upheld by the state senate... Maybe I should start drinking coffee!!! lol Collin Ps: you have the html mail thingy turned on....sends a bunch of extra junk at the end of the email --- Ken wrote: > > Pennsylvania State Senate kills helmet-law repeal > > > > > April 22, 1999 > Harrisburg, Pa. - (AMN) Riders who supported this > bill were shocked as a proposal to repeal the Pennsylvania helment > law was defeated in the state senate by a 26-24 vote. This same bill > passed the Senates last session only to be vetoed by Gov. Ridge. > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 09:04:50 1999 Return-Path: ph@XXXXXX Received: from pine.eainet.com (root@XXXXXX [206.136.246.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04004 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oak (ph@XXXXXX [206.136.246.2]) by pine.eainet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA16709; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:04:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:03:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Hartzler To: Dale Horstman cc: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Super Shield In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990422075859.012a1570@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hmm... I wonder if the bending stress will shorten it's life... I also wonder if heating with a torch while it's mounted might allow it to relax some of it's internal stresses... Looks very cool though, and now you've got me thinking about my own too short windshield... -ph On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Chris Norloff wrote: > At 10:10 PM 4/21/99 , Dale Horstman wrote: > >Thought you might want to take a look at the big homemade > >windshield I've got mounted on the new Concours. It's pretty > >kewl. > >http://www.tidalwave.net/~horstman/shield.html > >Dale > > > Looks good, Dale. Very professional job. > > I'd like a bigger but adjustable windshield on my bike. Bigger for less > wind in the cold, and less wind when riding with my wife (she gets a sore > neck) but adjustable so I can get more cooling wind when I need it. > > BMW makes a windshield with hinged side wings that may do the trick. > > Chris Norloff > > > --- Peter Hartzler Ellsworth Associates, Inc. ph@XXXXXX (703) 821-3090 x 252 From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 09:06:51 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04093 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:06:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA07650; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:05:35 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990427130613.YBKB20027@toddnt>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:06:13 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: RE: Questions Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:04:07 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01be90ae$6f0ee930$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <3724DCF1.2D51@erols.com> Importance: Normal Flame Bait! Not likely the YZF is going to sustain those speeds, and no cop is going to give chase. Besides I don't think you'd have email access from jail which is where you'd be if you got caught. Todd > > > Hi everybody I have a question to all of you. Yesterday night while > speeding on 66 and 495 (130-140mph) I got caught by a police > officer(va). He gave a reckless driving ticket. My court day is on May > 19th. > -How much money do I have to pay ?? > -What will happen if I don't show up?? I know that if I don't show up my > license will be suspended but are there any other penalties. > > Thanks........ > > Sayat Muratoglu > 98 YZF-600 > From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 09:08:25 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04103 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2TXA992X>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:12:46 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC8F7@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: "'sayatm@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Questions Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:02:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sayat, If you are for real, then GET A LAWYER! If not, GET A LIFE! Warmest regards, Perry > -----Original Message----- > From: sayat [SMTP:sayatm@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 5:39 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Questions > > Hi everybody I have a question to all of you. Yesterday night while > speeding on 66 and 495 (130-140mph) I got caught by a police > officer(va). He gave a reckless driving ticket. My court day is on May > 19th. > -How much money do I have to pay ?? > -What will happen if I don't show up?? I know that if I don't show up my > license will be suspended but are there any other penalties. > > Thanks........ > > Sayat Muratoglu > 98 YZF-600 From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 09:15:10 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA04211 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:15:09 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA21824; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:15:55 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmab20977; Tue, 27 Apr 99 09:14:35 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FAU00H87NIDPI@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256760.00488DC9 ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:12:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:06:22 -0400 Subject: Re: FW: Letter to Dr. Gridlock To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256760.00495194.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL When does Dr. Gridlock show up in the Post? 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From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 09:17:08 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04221 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA12380; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:16:42 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990427131617.YDRG20027@toddnt>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:16:17 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Ken" , "'dc'" Subject: RE: Not a Surprise, PA Helmet Law Defeated.. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:14:12 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01be90af$d762b740$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <001401be909e$5574c0e0$0e5e23c7@oemcomputer> Importance: Normal Good! Now the Safety Mongrels can rest over the symbology of a less risky world; mandatory helmet use for motorcyclists. Pennsylvania has joined the ranks of the safer, less free union. Hurrah :P Now it's time to hinder bicyclists, skate-boarders, roller-bladers. The list goes on and on, which is a good thing dontcha know? What, pray tell, would these personal freedom obstructionists do without a cause? Well, at least I can ride safely in Pennsylvania now. Todd Thanks for the update Ken. >Pennsylvania State Senate kills helmet-law repeal > > > >April 22, 1999 >Harrisburg, Pa. - (AMN) Riders who supported this bill were shocked as a proposal to repeal the >Pennsylvania helment law was defeated in the state senate by a 26-24 vote. This same bill passed >the Senates last session only to be vetoed by Gov. Ridge. > >Ken S. >ICQ# 32289311 >HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger >HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager >kshephard@XXXXXX >1996 XLH 1200 >Ride Safe >Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 09:17:26 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04231 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:17:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A8E312EB02A2; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:17:23 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990427085351.0130d840@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:54:19 -0400 To: "Todd Peer" , "DC-Cycles" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: FW: Letter to Dr. Gridlock In-Reply-To: <000c01be90ab$a1804ce0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Neat! So what did you put in your letter that made it so noteworthy? Chris Norloff At 08:44 AM 4/27/99 , Todd Peer wrote: >Don't know who all sent a note of thanks to Dr. Gridlock for the article >about safe/easy commuting on the HOV lanes, but I got this note from the >assistant to Dr. Gridlock this morning. > >Watch for the next article. > >Todd > > >> Mr. Peer: >> >> Thank you for your recent letter to the Dr. Gridlock column. >> >> Dr. Gridlock is interested in addressing your letter in an >> upcoming column. >> It is our policy to include the author's first and last name, city and >> state in the column with their letter. Would you please contact me to let >> me know your city and state? It would also be helpful to Dr. Gridlock if >> he could have a phone number where he could reach you, if he has any more >> questions (the phone number will NOT be put in to print). >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> Regards, >> Jessica Medinger >> Assistant to Dr. Gridlock >> medingerj@XXXXXX >> #703-279-3233 >> >> > From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 09:26:30 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA04361 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990427133539.8841.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web303.yahoomail.com; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:35:39 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:35:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: FW: Letter to Dr. Gridlock To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > When does Dr. Gridlock show up in the Post? Twice a week, Mondays, and either Wednesday or Thursday depending on where you get the post. Also availible at the Washington Post web page (search for Dr. Gridlock) Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 09:30:42 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04484 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA13503 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:30:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA17146; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:25:24 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990427132850.YGYT20027@toddnt>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:28:50 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Collin T. Fagan" , "Ken" , "'dc'" Subject: RE: Not a Surprise, PA Helmet Law Defeated.. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:26:44 -0400 Message-ID: <001101be90b1$982204d0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <19990427130317.24409.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal I'm with you Collin, I don't drink coffee either but maybe it's time to start. I even read the whole thing and still misunderstood....(yawn)... Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Collin T. Fagan [mailto:gixer_racer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 9:03 AM > To: Ken; 'dc' > Subject: Re: Not a Surprise, PA Helmet Law Defeated.. > > > Talk about trying to confuse me early in the morning, Ken.... > > The subject line makes me think the helmet law is repealed. However, > what the text is saying is that the helmet law was upheld by the state > senate... > > Maybe I should start drinking coffee!!! lol > Collin > Ps: you have the html mail thingy turned on....sends a bunch of extra > junk at the end of the email > > > --- Ken wrote: > > > > Pennsylvania State Senate kills helmet-law repeal > > > > > > > > > > April 22, 1999 > > Harrisburg, Pa. - (AMN) Riders who supported this > > bill were shocked as a proposal to repeal the Pennsylvania helment > > law was defeated in the state senate by a 26-24 vote. This same bill > > passed the Senates last session only to be vetoed by Gov. Ridge. > > > === > Collin T. Fagan > DC-Cycles Racing > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > Proudly sponsored by: > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > Avon Racing Tyres > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 09:33:45 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04494 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:33:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA26350 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:33:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.UU.NET (relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA07115 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgmth28917; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:27:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256760.004A570B ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:31:59 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: Sean Sullivan cc: "Horstman, Tracy L" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX (null) Message-ID: <85256760.004A5612.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:20:31 -0400 Subject: RE: DC Cycles Shirts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I got mine and it looks great! After seeing Collin's black one, I want a black one, though! The design looks awesome on black! - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Sean Sullivan on 04/26/99 06:27:57 PM To: "Horstman, Tracy L" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX(null) cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: RE: DC Cycles Shirts Todd mentioned some people might have missed out on the DC Cycles t-shirts and want to order some. If you are interested after seeing the shirts, the best thing would be for somebody in that group to gather orders and collect checks. I believe Franz Muller, the lister who did a great job on the first batch, still has the pattern so the shirts could be printed quickly and possibly in smaller numbers. Franz's number is 410-560-9074. Thanks for the thanks on the t-shirts, Tracy. I'm surprised that you were surprised. The only thing significantly different from the internet logo was the lack of gradient in the letters "DC," and in asking for orders I said the letters would have to be solid because a gradient would be impossible or expensive, according to people on the list and the shops. Sorry if you missed this. Sean Sullivan From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 09:42:56 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04684 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:41:59 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: speeding, flame bait and jail.. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:41:56 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I sent a private note to Collin already.. this isn't always true (going to jail for elivated speeds.. blah). I suspect it has a lot to do with location.. I've a speeding ticket for 187 in a 55.. walked on that one, after paying the officer $5 for 'Waste of Natural Resources' - this was in Montana.. and yes, it was when there was a speed limit (they were FAR more liberal before they did away with the speed limits). Closer to home, last year I got tagged for doing +90 in a 55 out on Rt 55 just west of Front Royal.. the cop let me walk without hesitation.. the judge didn't even have a problem dropping the fine to 74 in a 55, speeding. Again, I was in the boonies.. Shit, even better, I was 'followed' doing 80+ in a 20 over a year ago on the Univ. of MD campus in College Park.. I walked - though they did impound my bike because I had no license, insurance, or tags - again, went to court with papers in order, and paid only court costs... I REFUSE to believe that I'm that well composed in the court room.. OR that lucky to have multiple incidents that turned out to be nothing more than a small fine and a wasted day.... YMMV (or time in jail) > Gotta agree with Collin here. This has to be flame bait. I > had a friend in > the office a few years back go to jail for doing 90 in a 55 > around Richmond. > Maybe he's sending the e-mail from the jail in Fairfax City? ;-) > > Glenn From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 09:43:43 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04694 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:43:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA26433 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA07313 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990427134529.17043.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web308.yahoomail.com; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:45:29 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:45:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: RE: DC Cycles Shirts To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hmmm... Maybe it was me... I have that effect on shirts ;-) he he he...at least my head is still inflated after it's hard whack on the ground Sunday.... CT --- Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > > > I got mine and it looks great! > After seeing Collin's black one, I want a black one, though! > The design looks awesome on black! > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 10:21:14 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f89.hotmail.com [209.185.131.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA05305 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:21:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 90296 invoked by uid 0); 27 Apr 1999 14:20:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427142040.90295.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.23 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:20:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.23] From: "Leon Begeman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Great bike Forsale Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:20:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain If you like that bike, I know where there is another with a very similar description, fewer miles and I think he said it was an 82. I know it's a Suzuki GS850 with shaft drive, Vetter fairing, bags and stereo, but it hasn't been ridden for several years so it will need tires and battery. I think he'd sell for $2K or less. Contact Bill Beard, diesel83@XXXXXX tell him Leon sent you. >From: Jay Goddard >To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" ,swifty >Subject: Great bike Forsale >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:24:44 -0400 > >This bike belongs to a good friend of mine. This bike is in great >shape. Email him for pictures. > >1980 Suzuki 850 GL w/ Full Vetter Package, Incl Lowers. Has >radio/’tape. New battery, new rear tire, all fluids fresh, brakes >great, new custom seat cover. READY TO RIDE ANYWHERE!!! >This is a very economical Touring Bike!! Asking $2750 obo only 19,000 >miles >Thanks >John Swift >202-966-0889 >cbxturbo@XXXXXX > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 10:27:59 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05391 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA31393; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:27:56 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990427142731.YXFZ20027@toddnt>; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:27:31 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Chris Norloff" , "DC-Cycles" Subject: RE: FW: Letter to Dr. Gridlock Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:25:25 -0400 Message-ID: <001401be90b9$ca83fe30$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <4.1.19990427085351.0130d840@mail.toward.com> Importance: Normal Nothing special: "Thank you for addressing the benefits of riding a motorcycle to work as a way of commuting. It is rare that I read even handed positive reports where motorcycles are concerned. I've been riding my bike to work for over 12 years and still to this day can't understand why anyone would want to sit in a virtual parking lot for up to 2 hours one way simply to get to work. "I realize motorcycling isn't for everyone, but anyone who ever felt a desire to try it should. Thanks again." Todd Peer > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff [mailto:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 8:54 AM > To: Todd Peer; DC-Cycles > Subject: Re: FW: Letter to Dr. Gridlock > > > Neat! So what did you put in your letter that made it so noteworthy? > > Chris Norloff > > > At 08:44 AM 4/27/99 , Todd Peer wrote: > >Don't know who all sent a note of thanks to Dr. Gridlock for the article > >about safe/easy commuting on the HOV lanes, but I got this note from the > >assistant to Dr. Gridlock this morning. > > > >Watch for the next article. > > > >Todd > > > > > >> Mr. Peer: > >> > >> Thank you for your recent letter to the Dr. Gridlock column. > >> > >> Dr. Gridlock is interested in addressing your letter in an > >> upcoming column. > >> It is our policy to include the author's first and last name, city and > >> state in the column with their letter. Would you please > contact me to let > >> me know your city and state? It would also be helpful to Dr. > Gridlock if > >> he could have a phone number where he could reach you, if he > has any more > >> questions (the phone number will NOT be put in to print). > >> > >> Thank you very much. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Jessica Medinger > >> Assistant to Dr. Gridlock > >> medingerj@XXXXXX > >> #703-279-3233 > >> > >> > > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 11:01:24 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05953 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:00:41 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFB4D@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: speeding, flame bait and jail.. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:00:33 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Now this isn't the story you told me. I specially remember you telling me you got caught in Shenendoah County doing something between 76-79 MPH. This isn't MT or MD. VA is very strict on speeders. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: McCoy, Brian NAB02 [mailto:Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 9:42 AM To: 'dc' Subject: speeding, flame bait and jail.. I sent a private note to Collin already.. this isn't always true (going to jail for elivated speeds.. blah). I suspect it has a lot to do with location.. I've a speeding ticket for 187 in a 55.. walked on that one, after paying the officer $5 for 'Waste of Natural Resources' - this was in Montana.. and yes, it was when there was a speed limit (they were FAR more liberal before they did away with the speed limits). Closer to home, last year I got tagged for doing +90 in a 55 out on Rt 55 just west of Front Royal.. the cop let me walk without hesitation.. the judge didn't even have a problem dropping the fine to 74 in a 55, speeding. Again, I was in the boonies.. Shit, even better, I was 'followed' doing 80+ in a 20 over a year ago on the Univ. of MD campus in College Park.. I walked - though they did impound my bike because I had no license, insurance, or tags - again, went to court with papers in order, and paid only court costs... I REFUSE to believe that I'm that well composed in the court room.. OR that lucky to have multiple incidents that turned out to be nothing more than a small fine and a wasted day.... YMMV (or time in jail) > Gotta agree with Collin here. This has to be flame bait. I > had a friend in > the office a few years back go to jail for doing 90 in a 55 > around Richmond. > Maybe he's sending the e-mail from the jail in Fairfax City? ;-) > > Glenn From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 11:17:57 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06249 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:17:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:16:57 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:16:54 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:15:14 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Not a Surprise, PA Helmet Law Defeated.. -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Pennsylvania has joined the ranks of the safer, less free union. Hurrah :P PA hasn't joined those ranks, it's had that law for a long time. Now it's time to hinder bicyclists, skate-boarders, roller-bladers. The list goes on and on, which is a good thing dontcha know? What, pray tell, would these personal freedom obstructionists do without a cause? Well, at least I can ride safely in Pennsylvania now. But what about all the poor cagers who suffer head injuries in car accidents? Isn't it time we protected them? Aw hell, why don't we bad sudden deceleration? Too many humans are being injured by it! Write your congressperson and demand a stop to the carnage . . . Joe From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 11:22:59 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06391 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA10441 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA22360; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904271522.LAA22360@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:24:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: VFR's for sale Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) --- Mike Troutman wrote: > And if anyone has a VFR for sale, let me know. Blalock Honda here in Warrenton has two VFR's for sale. A '96 and a '97. I was the previous owner of the '96 so if you have questions let me know. The '97 is stock with a brand new rear tire (D205?) and has 12k miles on it. I don't know the price. The '96 has a trimmed rear fender, heli-bars, some body repair, a K&N, 17k miles and is very strong, in my opinion stronger than the '97 (though not sure why). I can't think of anything else off the top of my head. Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 11:33:07 1999 Return-Path: garicao@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (root@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06563 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:33:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id LAA04761; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:33:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:33:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Garcia Oliver To: suzuki-l@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Great bike Forsale In-Reply-To: <19990427142040.90295.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE I've got one too: full Vetter (fairing, trunk, luggage (no stereo)) and only 5k miles. Not sure I want to sell it---great bike, but I don't do much touring. Got it running yesterday after sitting (properly stored) since October [the bike, not me]. Took about 1/2 second on the starter to come to life. The 750 Virago (definitely for sale; 8k mi) took about 10 minutes to start.=20 --garcia "Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana." On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Leon Begeman wrote: > If you like that bike, I know where there is another with a very=20 > similar description, fewer miles and I think he said it was an 82. I=20 > know it's a Suzuki GS850 with shaft drive, Vetter fairing, bags and=20 > stereo, but it hasn't been ridden for several years so it will need=20 > tires and battery. I think he'd sell for $2K or less. =20 > Contact Bill Beard, diesel83@XXXXXX tell him Leon sent you. >=20 >=20 > >From: Jay Goddard > >To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" ,swifty=20 > > >Subject: Great bike Forsale > >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:24:44 -0400 > > > >This bike belongs to a good friend of mine. This bike is in great > >shape. Email him for pictures. > > > >1980 Suzuki 850 GL w/ Full Vetter Package, Incl Lowers. Has > >radio/=92tape. New battery, new rear tire, all fluids fresh, brakes > >great, new custom seat cover. READY TO RIDE ANYWHERE!!! > >This is a very economical Touring Bike!! Asking $2750 obo only=20 > 19,000 > >miles > >Thanks > >John Swift > >202-966-0889 > >cbxturbo@XXXXXX > > > > >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com >=20 From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 12:03:22 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07215 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:03:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA28338 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA12341 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:03:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D88M5GET; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:02:08 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC Cycles Shirts Message-ID: <19990427.185551.7903.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <85256760.004A5612.00@172.16.2.37> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-14 From: Bikes R Us Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:02:08 EDT Having seen one, I'd be interested in a black one too, but without Collin's inflated head sticking out of it... :-P ;-) JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:20:31 -0400 Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX writes: >I got mine and it looks great! >After seeing Collin's black one, I want a black one, though! >The design looks awesome on black! > >- Jeannette ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 12:20:27 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07548 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user159.anent.com [208.195.115.159]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00784 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:19:58 -0400 Message-ID: <01fa01be90c9$d3883d60$4673c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: FS: Aerostich Darien Pants Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:20:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 For Sale: Aerostich Darien Pants Size 36 Regular Only worn 2 or 3 times, just like brand new. May be seen at www.aerostich.com Darien Pants Cut like jeans, these conventional looking, unlined overpants are the perfect match for a Darien jacket. Two front pockets, one back pocket, a flapped front fly, and a waistband with belt loops containing a removable Aerostich belt are all practical details. Full length separating side zips with inner and outer flaps insure easy on-and-off convenience and severe weather protection. Bent knees, large 3M Scotchlite reflective ankle adjustment tabs, and shaped, removable TF2 knee pads complete the specifications. Black 500 denier Cordura Gore-Tex fabric is fully seam taped for comfort and strength. In even waist sizes 30 through 44 regular and long (length alterations see Roadcrafter suit alterations). $ 297.00 new Selling because I just got a new Roadcrafter Suit. $200 or best offer Please respond off list. From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 12:22:19 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07566 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA24564 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA11798 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:21:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv11-54.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.54) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma011711; Tue Apr 27 11:20:56 1999 Message-ID: <002c01be90c9$c28b7c20$365e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "'dc'" References: <001101be90b1$982204d0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Subject: Re: Not a Surprise, PA Helmet Law Defeated.. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:19:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Geesh, you guys do need to drink more coffee, Its get up, brush teeth, = cup of coffee, shower, cup of coffee, going to work, cup of coffee, = morning meeting, cup of coffeee. Once your hands start shaking from = the caffeine, you can cut back to a cup every other hour..... And none = of that decaf crap either ;).... Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Todd Peer To: Collin T. Fagan ; Ken = ; 'dc' Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 9:26 AM Subject: RE: Not a Surprise, PA Helmet Law Defeated.. > I'm with you Collin, I don't drink coffee either but maybe it's time = to > start. I even read the whole thing and still = misunderstood....(yawn)... >=20 > Todd >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Collin T. Fagan [mailto:gixer_racer@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 9:03 AM > > To: Ken; 'dc' > > Subject: Re: Not a Surprise, PA Helmet Law Defeated.. > > > > > > Talk about trying to confuse me early in the morning, Ken.... > > > > The subject line makes me think the helmet law is repealed. = However, > > what the text is saying is that the helmet law was upheld by the = state > > senate... > > > > Maybe I should start drinking coffee!!! lol > > Collin > > Ps: you have the html mail thingy turned on....sends a bunch of = extra > > junk at the end of the email > > > > > > --- Ken wrote: > > > > > > Pennsylvania State Senate kills helmet-law repeal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > April 22, 1999 > > > Harrisburg, Pa. - (AMN) Riders who supported = this > > > bill were shocked as a proposal to repeal the Pennsylvania helment > > > law was defeated in the state senate by a 26-24 vote. This same = bill > > > passed the Senates last session only to be vetoed by Gov. Ridge. > > > > > =3D=3D=3D > > Collin T. Fagan > > DC-Cycles Racing > > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > > Proudly sponsored by: > > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > > Avon Racing Tyres > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 13:36:57 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA08799 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:36:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:36:36 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: In the market for.. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:36:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Just wondering if anyone's in the market for a 94 FZR1000.. It's got the 'standard' stuff.. pipe, jet-kit, K&N.. Bodywork's in perfect condition.. It's been ridden hard, but never put away wet. 17k miles.. If you're interested, I'll tell ya more. Brian McCoy From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 15:10:59 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f94.hotmail.com [209.185.131.157]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA10272 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 95963 invoked by uid 0); 27 Apr 1999 19:10:09 -0000 Message-ID: <19990427191009.95962.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:10:08 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.22] From: "Leon Begeman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Great bike Forsale Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:10:08 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain This is starting to sound like the classic Model T story. After Ford introduced the Model A, lots of people had Model T's for sale. One fellow finally put an ad in the paper stating that he'd leave it with the keys in it on a particular street corner for anyone who wanted it. At the end of the day, he went back to see if anyone came and got it. When he got there, he found two others also with keys parked behind his. Leon. >From: Garcia Oliver >To: suzuki-l@XXXXXX >CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Great bike Forsale >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:33:17 -0400 (EDT) > >I've got one too: full Vetter (fairing, trunk, luggage (no stereo)) and >only 5k miles. Not sure I want to sell it---great bike, but I don't do >much touring. Got it running yesterday after sitting (properly stored) >since October [the bike, not me]. Took about 1/2 second on the starter to >come to life. The 750 Virago (definitely for sale; 8k mi) took about 10 >minutes to start. > >--garcia > >"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana." > > >On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Leon Begeman wrote: > >> If you like that bike, I know where there is another with a very >> similar description, fewer miles and I think he said it was an 82. I >> know it's a Suzuki GS850 with shaft drive, Vetter fairing, bags and >> stereo, but it hasn't been ridden for several years so it will need >> tires and battery. I think he'd sell for $2K or less. >> Contact Bill Beard, diesel83@XXXXXX tell him Leon sent you. >> >> >> >From: Jay Goddard >> >To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" ,swifty >> >> >Subject: Great bike Forsale >> >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:24:44 -0400 >> > >> >This bike belongs to a good friend of mine. This bike is in great >> >shape. Email him for pictures. >> > >> >1980 Suzuki 850 GL w/ Full Vetter Package, Incl Lowers. Has >> >radio/’tape. New battery, new rear tire, all fluids fresh, brakes >> >great, new custom seat cover. READY TO RIDE ANYWHERE!!! >> >This is a very economical Touring Bike!! Asking $2750 obo only >> 19,000 >> >miles >> >Thanks >> >John Swift >> >202-966-0889 >> >cbxturbo@XXXXXX >> > >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________ >> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com >> > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 15:58:40 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11079 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:58:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A6EC11AE01CC; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:58:36 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990427155720.0133ba30@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:59:08 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Great bike Forsale In-Reply-To: <19990427191009.95962.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ha ha ha! My brother had a Datsun 240Z that was worth more wrecked than running due to extensive rust. He parked it on the outside of a turn used by speeding commuters hoping one of them would wreck it. But they didn't. :-) Chris Norloff At 03:10 PM 4/27/99 , you wrote: >This is starting to sound like the classic Model T story. After Ford >introduced the Model A, lots of people had Model T's for sale. One >fellow finally put an ad in the paper stating that he'd leave it with >the keys in it on a particular street corner for anyone who wanted >it. At the end of the day, he went back to see if anyone came and >got it. When he got there, he found two others also with keys parked >behind his. > >Leon. > > >>From: Garcia Oliver >>To: suzuki-l@XXXXXX >>CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >>Subject: Re: Great bike Forsale >>Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:33:17 -0400 (EDT) >> >>I've got one too: full Vetter (fairing, trunk, luggage (no stereo)) >and >>only 5k miles. Not sure I want to sell it---great bike, but I don't >do >>much touring. Got it running yesterday after sitting (properly >stored) >>since October [the bike, not me]. Took about 1/2 second on the >starter to >>come to life. The 750 Virago (definitely for sale; 8k mi) took >about 10 >>minutes to start. >> >>--garcia >> >>"Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana." >> >> >>On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Leon Begeman wrote: >> >>> If you like that bike, I know where there is another with a very >>> similar description, fewer miles and I think he said it was an 82. >I >>> know it's a Suzuki GS850 with shaft drive, Vetter fairing, bags >and >>> stereo, but it hasn't been ridden for several years so it will >need >>> tires and battery. I think he'd sell for $2K or less. >>> Contact Bill Beard, diesel83@XXXXXX tell him Leon sent you. >>> >>> >>> >From: Jay Goddard >>> >To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" ,swifty >>> >>> >Subject: Great bike Forsale >>> >Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:24:44 -0400 >>> > >>> >This bike belongs to a good friend of mine. This bike is in great >>> >shape. Email him for pictures. >>> > >>> >1980 Suzuki 850 GL w/ Full Vetter Package, Incl Lowers. Has >>> >radio/’tape. New battery, new rear tire, all fluids fresh, brakes >>> >great, new custom seat cover. READY TO RIDE ANYWHERE!!! >>> >This is a very economical Touring Bike!! Asking $2750 obo only >>> 19,000 >>> >miles >>> >Thanks >>> >John Swift >>> >202-966-0889 >>> >cbxturbo@XXXXXX >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________________________ >>> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com >>> >> > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 16:04:21 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11136 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D883XK74; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:03:35 EDT To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: In the market for.. Message-ID: <19990427.220910.5127.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-3,5-14 From: Bikes R Us Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:03:35 EDT Do tell! JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:36:31 -0700 "McCoy, Brian NAB02" writes: >Just wondering if anyone's in the market for a 94 FZR1000.. It's got >the >'standard' stuff.. pipe, jet-kit, K&N.. Bodywork's in perfect >condition.. >It's been ridden hard, but never put away wet. 17k miles.. > >If you're interested, I'll tell ya more. > > Brian McCoy ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 17:10:26 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (web805.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12243 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990427211420.11434.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.220.25.88] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:14:20 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:14:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Not a Surprise, PA Helmet Law Defeated.. To: Ken , "'dc'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thank you Sweet Lord. I've got lots of family and friends in PA. Now they won't have to choose between being "cool" and being safe. Dale (donning the nomex...) --- Ken wrote: > > Pennsylvania State Senate kills helmet-law repeal > > April 22, 1999 > Harrisburg, Pa. - (AMN) Riders who supported this > bill were shocked as a proposal to repeal the Pennsylvania helment > law was defeated in the state senate by a 26-24 vote. === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 17:24:27 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com ([128.11.23.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12487 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:24:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990427212109.17468.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.220.25.88] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:21:09 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:21:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Super Shield To: Peter Hartzler , Dale Horstman Cc: DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm not sure. I've tried heating smaller shields in the oven and molding them to the shape I wanted. The ended up too brittle, but that could have been the Lexan stuff I was using. It seemed brittle even before heating it. This polycarbonate is pretty flexible. I bent a small scap piece 180 degrees (i.e. flat) on itself and it didn't snap. Ended up with a neat 90 degree bend in it when I was done. :) Dale --- Peter Hartzler wrote: > Hmm... > > I wonder if the bending stress will shorten it's life... I also > wonder if > heating with a torch while it's mounted might allow it to relax some > of > it's internal stresses... > > >http://www.tidalwave.net/~horstman/shield.html === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 18:30:17 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from send501.yahoomail.com (web503.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA13524 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990427223417.9659.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web503.yahoomail.com; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:34:17 PDT Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:34:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Donuts and T-shirts To: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Todd Peer generously agreed to open his doors this Saturday morning from 9-10am for a pre-ride gathering. There will be donuts and juice, and everybody is welcome. Those who ordered t-shirts can pick them up then, those who didn't can just fuel up for a ride. (Please pick up your shirts then if you possibly can -- otherwise you'll have to pick them up in Northeast DC or wait until you and I are on the same ride and I know about it.) Anita Lauro said she might be able to lead a ride from Todd's house. She sounded open to suggestions of a route as she is not familiar with the area. Here are the directions to Todd's in Springfield, Va.: >From Washington DC. - I395 to I95 south. - Take Old Keene Mill Road exit (644, west. - Go approximately 4 miles and turn left onto Huntsman Blvd. - Take the 2nd left onto Houndmaster Road - Take the 2nd left onto PowderHorn Road - Take the 4th left onto Gillings Road - Take the 1st right onto Langport Drive 8605 Langport Drive Springfield, VA Todd 644.2695 ------------------------------------------------------- See you there! Sean Sullivan --- djones@XXXXXX wrote: > Is there a meet scheduled this weekend to pick up > t-shirts? > > Thanks, DJ > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 19:26:48 1999 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA14454 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:26:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zellto (adsl-151-200-16-190.bellatlantic.net [151.200.16.190]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA04379; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006b01be9105$bef5db00$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> From: "Thomas and Jeannette" To: , "Bikes R Us" References: <19990426.232730.8111.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> Subject: Re: What I passed up... Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:29:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Hey! I saw that guy at Summit Point on Sunday... that thing has got to be a real rocket... 400hp and 1100 pounds... geez! Not to mention the scary nitrous botles hanging off of it. That guy has got to be insane. Did you catch his name? Jeannette's dad does some printing work for a guy who owns one. Later, Tom '86 VFR750 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bikes R Us To: Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 4:31 PM Subject: What I passed up... > I was sitting at my desk last Friday, minding my own business, when the > thunderous roar of a what sounded like a '68 Camaro street rod wafted in > from the parking lot. Since I'm a sucker for a cool hot rod, I ran > outside to see what it was. Imagine my surprise when I spied not a Camaro > or a Mustang or even a Barracuda, but a motorcycle. Right there in the > sunlight was a sparkling maroon (with subtle flames) real live Boss Hoss > with a Chevy 350 V8 and DUAL nitrous bottles! The guy was very friendly > and said I was more than welcome to take it for a spin. Feeling my > mortality a little more than usual, I said, "Uhhh, no thanks. I'd be the > one guy it fell on, but I wouldn't mind sitting on it." He agreed and I > threw a leg over it. Lifting it off the sidestand was less difficult than > expected. Even the smallest of you could have done it and balancing it > was easier than any bike I've ever sat. This is due primarily to the > width of the rear tire, which was in the neighborhood of a 235. > Apparently, those Boss Hosses equipped with 50-series car tires don't > even need a kickstand. They stand on their own, like a dragbike. Anyway, > the owner put the key in the ignition and fired up the beast. It growled > to life under me and I had the sensation of sitting spreadeagled in the > engine compartment of a race car. The owner twisted his wrist in the air, > showing me the universal "Give it some gas gas" sign. So I did. I cracked > the throttle just a bit and was rewarded not only with the expected roar, > but also with a most unexpected and violent jerk to the right. This drew > a lot of laughs from the assembled crowd. The motor has so much torque > that it twists everything over when you gun it. The owner said that if > you want to leave a light in a hurry, you have to lean the bike over to > the left before you hit the gas. Then, when you juice it, the bike stands > straight up and shoots away at ludicrous speed. Not for the faint of > heart and I was feeling too faint of heart to try it... Ah well... > > > JohnDavid@Bikes R Us > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 27 20:44:15 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA15731 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA05709 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA00880 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:44:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursulina (207-172-65-126.s126.tnt24.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.65.126]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA29747 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:44:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003f01be9128$e9face00$7e41accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: About that wrecked CBR... Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:40:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hi ya, Thanks for all the kind advice and words of wisdom about the bike I checked out last week. Interested as I was, I know it's not "the one." Besides the obvious flaws (bent rim, oddly dented tank, cracks, etc) the price was too high. I'll keep my eye out for the one I want: the '96 done up in red, white, and black with the neon F3. Keep me in mind if you spot that bike looking for a new home! :-) - - Ursulina 1998 Kawasaki 454 LTD -----Original Message----- From: Ursulina Viteri To: DC Cycles Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 6:20 PM Subject: New bike? Advice/Suggestions appreciated >Hi ya, > >Time to get some more advice from my favorite bunch of bikers. :-) From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 00:36:38 1999 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA18857 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from defcon (207-172-35-148.s148.tnt9.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.35.148]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA09911 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <027801be90d4$708ce160$9423accf@defcon> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: References: Subject: Re: Crashing Sucks!!! -Reply Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:36:09 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: RE: Crashing Sucks!!! -Reply Crashing sucks, but CF's crash sucked less than the guy who started a VF500 bonfire in turn 5. A cornerworker emtied an entire extinguisher onto it and couldn't stop it. I think the rider was embarrassed--he vanished while it was still burning. Joe Yeah that would be me...I got a lil singged on the fire...amazing how the wind doesn't blow in your direction until your in front of a fire.....glad I had on my long sleeves and kevlar gloves...emptied the extenguisher on the bike, but the gas line had come off of the tank and it was running out on the ground...the tank must have been half full because there was atleast a gallon in the small ditch after the bike had burned....it took four cans to put the fire out....anything plastic or leather on the bike is toast including the battery and wires....the guy who was riding it just got pissed and walked back to the pits....he was upset about his bike and couldn't watch it burn I guess.....we had four Ducattis go down in turn 5 and 6....I got a couple of parts that I put in my pocket and I gave a handgrip to Collin......I stuck around a little after the races on Sunday, so I could take a look at the Ferraris that were racing this week...some sweet rides starting rolling off the trucks and hitting the course...wow what a machine...just wished I could have taken the day off Monday to watch them run....well until next time enjoy the road... Les 96Kat750, 89KLR650,86XR350,88NX2550, 93KLR650..about to buy a three wheeler..why I don't know.... From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 10:24:06 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27285 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:23:01 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:22:57 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:21:45 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Crashing Sucks!!! -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Leslie, You're to be commended for your tenacity in fighting that fire. About 15 sec into it, I turned to a buddy and said, "That guy needs bigger weapons!" I suppose we could say that the bike was toast, and not have it be just a figure of speech this time. The other racer that was taken out by the sliding VF showed some amazing speed getting back to his bike to pull it away from the 'ceptor roast. Joe >>> "Leslie N. Forewright" - 4/27/99 1:36 PM >>> Subject: RE: Crashing Sucks!!! -Reply Crashing sucks, but CF's crash sucked less than the guy who started a VF500 bonfire in turn 5. A cornerworker emtied an entire extinguisher onto it and couldn't stop it. I think the rider was embarrassed--he vanished while it was still burning. Joe Yeah that would be me...I got a lil singged on the fire...amazing how the wind doesn't blow in your direction until your in front of a fire.....glad I had on my long sleeves and kevlar gloves...emptied the extenguisher on the bike, but the gas line had come off of the tank and it was running out on the ground...the tank must have been half full because there was atleast a gallon in the small ditch after the bike had burned....it took four cans to put the fire out....anything plastic or leather on the bike is toast including the battery and wires....the guy who was riding it just got pissed and walked back to the pits....he was upset about his bike and couldn't watch it burn I guess.....we had four Ducattis go down in turn 5 and 6....I got a couple of parts that I put in my pocket and I gave a handgrip to Collin......I stuck around a little after the races on Sunday, so I could take a look at the Ferraris that were racing this week...some sweet rides starting rolling off the trucks and hitting the course...wow what a machine...just wished I could have taken the day off Monday to watch them run....well until next time enjoy the road... Les 96Kat750, 89KLR650,86XR350,88NX2550, 93KLR650..about to buy a three wheeler..why I don't know.... From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 11:29:21 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA28284 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16108 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:29:18 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA15436 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (8039) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vNJFa05228 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:28:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7c0235e1.2458832c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:28:44 EDT Subject: Summer Intern (No-MC content) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: NJitzul@XXXXXX I have a friend that's going to be an intern at NIH in Bethesda for three months this summer. He's looking for a place to stay, and unfortunately I can't help him out. He's willing to pay for rent and/or work around the house. If anyone can help, e-mail me offlist and I'll put you in touch with him. Thanks! Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 11:51:49 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA28683 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA29866 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA10626 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:54:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904281554.LAA10626@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:53:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) Cheap new & leftover VFRs Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) For anyone interested, (Are you out there Alex?) Anyone looking for a '97 or later VFR,the latest Cycle Trader has an ad from J & J Motors,Massillon,Ohio. 1-800-762-5993.They are in northeast Ohio.I know nothing other than the ad text. New '97 VFRs---$6489!!!! new '98 VTR1000---$6993 new '99 VFR800----$8399 new '99 VTR1000,yellow---$7799 Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 12:07:09 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm05sm.pmm.cw.net (pm05sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.154]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28865 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr38-dialup17.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.75.81]) by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35323) with SMTP id <0FAW005UYQ2UHR@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:06:35 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:05:52 +0000 From: Jon Subject: Fw: [fizzer-squad] burning rubber To: DC Cycles Message-id: <001301be916f$79929700$514b3ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal I thought this was kinda funny, yet scary at the same time....... Jon <<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>> *I'm New* How does one peel out on a motorcycle? Pardon my low knowledge of motorcycles, but it seems to me that the amount of power needed to spin the tire would flip the bike over. Also, how to you pop the front wheel up without loosing control or flipping? "As far back as I can remember I always wanted to be a gangster" Ray Liotta; Goodfellas Yamaha FZR600 Pic of my bike here: http://www.yamahausa.com/mcNEW/600/fzr600s3.jpg (Pic courtesy of www.yamahausa.com Visit my webpage! Click Here: http://www.geocities.com/Pipeline/Curb/5857/index.html Don't forget to sign the guestbook! From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 12:32:32 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA29211 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:32:31 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id JKYRHZNT; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:32:30 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31QHYM; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:32:31 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256761.005ADC9B ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:32:27 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: thunderacelist@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256761.0059502C.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:31:09 -0400 Subject: Heart Attack After an awsome ride yesterday. I arrived home & I was distracted by the kids who wanted to play. So away we went running around the house. Five minutes later I return to see my beloved YZF1000 leaning over at a 45 degree angel about to plummet to the ground. The kick stand had started to sink down into the driveway which needs another layer due the fact that it's new. I ran as fast as I could & saved her. Honest to God, I think I would've dove under the bike to save it from scratches. Whew, that was too damn close. I should've known better. Scatter Brain From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 12:55:45 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA29582 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:55:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA20850 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:55:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990428165731.667.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web308.yahoomail.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:57:31 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:57:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: (Fwd) Cheap new & leftover VFRs To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow.. those are some good prices!! Like previous offers, if anyone is seriously interested in one, I'd be happy to pick it up, so long as you put go go juice in the truck...Got friends in Ohio I've been meaning to visit anyhow... --- Danny Thompson wrote: > For anyone interested, (Are you out there Alex?) > > Anyone looking for a '97 or later VFR, === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 13:15:58 1999 Return-Path: okan1262@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00128 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-38-30.s30.tnt8.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com (207-172-38-30.s30.tnt8.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.38.30]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA13324 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:15:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: smtp1.erols.com: 207-172-38-30.s30.tnt8.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.38.30] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <3727439E.E4F@erols.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:21:34 -0400 From: Okan Seremetoglu Reply-To: okan1262@XXXXXX Organization: The American University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04GoldC-DH397 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Fast Ride Route Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I am planning to go on a fast ride with a friend of mine on friday to the back roads of Virginia. Anybody who is not working is welcome to come. The problem is that I do not know a route to go to. If anybody could give me some suggestions, I would appriciate it. And if anyone is interested to come along we will decide a meeting place. Okan 98 F3 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 13:25:50 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00283 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:25:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id NAA25798; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:25:42 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id NAA28876; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:25:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: (Fwd) Cheap new & leftover VFRs In-Reply-To: <19990428165731.667.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You do realize that if your street ride where something other then "Pepe the Pack Mule" you wouldn't have to travel all over the country just to ride another listers bike ;). ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Collin T. Fagan wrote: > Wow.. those are some good prices!! > > Like previous offers, if anyone is seriously interested in one, I'd be > happy to pick it up, so long as you put go go juice in the truck...Got > friends in Ohio I've been meaning to visit anyhow... > > --- Danny Thompson wrote: > > For anyone interested, (Are you out there Alex?) > > > > Anyone looking for a '97 or later VFR, > === > Collin T. Fagan > DC-Cycles Racing > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > Proudly sponsored by: > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > Avon Racing Tyres > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 13:59:44 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00957 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990428180135.12089.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web308.yahoomail.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:01:35 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:01:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Fast Ride Route To: okan1262@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii try http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ride.html Have a few Northern Virginia and MD ride sheets there, and another one or two still need to be posted... Collin --- Okan Seremetoglu wrote: > Hi > I am planning to go on a fast ride with a friend of mine on friday > to > the back roads of Virginia. Anybody who is not working is welcome to > come. The problem is that I do not know a route to go to. If anybody > could give me some suggestions, I would appriciate it. And if anyone > is > interested to come along we will decide a meeting place. > > Okan > 98 F3 > > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 14:05:28 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01103 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:05:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:04:44 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFBF5@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'okan1262@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Fast Ride Route Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:04:40 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) How many miles/hours would you like to go? If you tell me that I can recommend some good roads that will make you smile. Glenn > -----Original Message----- > From: Okan Seremetoglu [SMTP:okan1262@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 10:22 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Fast Ride Route > > Hi > I am planning to go on a fast ride with a friend of mine on friday > to > the back roads of Virginia. Anybody who is not working is welcome to > come. The problem is that I do not know a route to go to. If anybody > could give me some suggestions, I would appriciate it. And if anyone is > interested to come along we will decide a meeting place. > > Okan > 98 F3 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 14:06:40 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA01123 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990428180920.3132.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web301.yahoomail.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:09:20 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:09:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: (Fwd) Cheap new & leftover VFRs To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OUCH!!! lol Actually, Pepe is quite fun. Kinda funny listening to people talk about how brisk the pace is at rest stops, then reflecting on what the leader is riding... he he he Just wait.... Brian's Maxim will be up and running here very soon too (probably sooner than he is!!) and all you honda freaks with your matching red vfr's will be jealous of our matching Maxim's leading the pack ;-) CT --- "Hugh A. Caldwell" wrote: > > You do realize that if your street ride where something > other then "Pepe the Pack Mule" you wouldn't have to travel all > over the country just to ride another listers bike ;). === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 14:20:30 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01490 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:20:06 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: (Fwd) Cheap new & leftover VFRs Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:20:02 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > Actually, Pepe is quite fun. Kinda funny listening to people talk > about how brisk the pace is at rest stops, then reflecting on what the > leader is riding... he he he > > Just wait.... Brian's Maxim will be up and running here very soon too > (probably sooner than he is!!) and all you honda freaks with your > matching red vfr's will be jealous of our matching Maxim's leading the > pack ;-) LOL.. Damn straight! I'm even going to put a big 30gal box on the bike (al-la Leon style) and am considering painting a target on it (for more cagers to try and hit.. whee) From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 14:21:20 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm04sm.pmm.cw.net (pm04sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.153]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01508 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr7-dialup20.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.67.148]) by PM04SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35318) with SMTP id <0FAW008XZWA87P@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:20:37 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:19:54 +0000 From: Jon Subject: Re: (Fwd) Cheap new & leftover VFRs To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <002f01be9182$325ec440$94433ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Just wait.... Brian's Maxim will be up and running here very soon too >(probably sooner than he is!!) and all you honda freaks with your >matching red vfr's will be jealous of our matching Maxim's leading the >pack ;-) >CT Oh gawd, where are you two going to put the rainbow stickers? 8^P Jon From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 14:31:41 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01721 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:31:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id SAA25107; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:27:17 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990428183044.BFOI26508@toddnt>; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:30:44 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Collin T. Fagan" , "Hugh A. Caldwell" , Subject: RE: (Fwd) Cheap new & leftover VFRs Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:28:39 -0400 Message-ID: <000601be91a4$efb6ef00$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990428180920.3132.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > OUCH!!! lol > > Actually, Pepe is quite fun. Kinda funny listening to people talk > about how brisk the pace is at rest stops, then reflecting on what the > leader is riding... he he he > > Just wait.... Brian's Maxim will be up and running here very soon too > (probably sooner than he is!!) and all you honda freaks with your > matching red vfr's will be jealous of our matching Maxim's leading the > pack ;-) > > CT > We keep you out front as police decoys. No judge would believe 'Pepe' could perform like it does. Todd From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 14:36:27 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01855 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:36:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10cZAB-0001j6-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:34:28 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA29180 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004701be91a6$accf0680$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: Subject: Re: (Fwd) Cheap new & leftover VFRs Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:41:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 >Just wait.... Brian's Maxim will be up and running here very soon too >(probably sooner than he is!!) and all you honda freaks with your >matching red vfr's will be jealous of our matching Maxim's leading the >pack ;-) > I may be able to give that Maxim a run for your money on my red VFR ;-) Atlhough . . . it would be more fun to lead a pack of VFRs on a Maxim. Where can I get me one of those Maxim's? I've been tempted to trade my VFR for a V-Max anyway. Dave "I aint gonna be passed by no stink'n Maxim" Cross From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 14:49:11 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02083 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:49:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:48:28 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFBF9@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Collin T. Fagan'" , "Hugh A. Caldwell" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: (Fwd) Cheap new & leftover VFRs Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:46:53 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Hey Collin, I know the feeling. Nobody except Kirk ever wanted to ride my Magna but its a great fun little bike. Quite slow in the straights but very fun and quite nimble in the twisites. In the really tight stuff I can get it through easier then the VFR. Glenn > -----Original Message----- > From: Collin T. Fagan [SMTP:gixer_racer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:09 AM > To: Hugh A. Caldwell; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: (Fwd) Cheap new & leftover VFRs > > OUCH!!! lol > > Actually, Pepe is quite fun. Kinda funny listening to people talk > about how brisk the pace is at rest stops, then reflecting on what the > leader is riding... he he he > > Just wait.... Brian's Maxim will be up and running here very soon too > (probably sooner than he is!!) and all you honda freaks with your > matching red vfr's will be jealous of our matching Maxim's leading the > pack ;-) > > CT > > --- "Hugh A. Caldwell" wrote: > > > > You do realize that if your street ride where something > > other then "Pepe the Pack Mule" you wouldn't have to travel all > > over the country just to ride another listers bike ;). > > === > Collin T. Fagan > DC-Cycles Racing > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > Proudly sponsored by: > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > Avon Racing Tyres > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 14:57:33 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02295 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA08931 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:57:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA25447 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904281900.PAA25447@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:59:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: VFR's can lead? was: Cheap new & leftover VFRs Priority: normal In-reply-to: <004701be91a6$accf0680$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Dave Cross wrote: > I may be able to give that Maxim a run for your money on my red VFR ;-) You tell 'em Dave, we people on VFR's need someone to stand up to those big bulleys on those fancy shmancy supermoto Maxims :), besides Collin, what's wrong with red?.... > I've been tempted to trade my VFR for a V-Max anyway. and then you go and write something like this...? > Dave "I aint gonna be passed by no stink'n Maxim" Cross > Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 15:08:07 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA02559 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA22069 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:08:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:08:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: (Fwd) Cheap new & leftover VFRs In-Reply-To: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFBF9@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM wrote: > Hey Collin, I know the feeling. Nobody except Kirk ever wanted to ride > my Magna but its a great fun little bike. Quite slow in the straights > but very fun and quite nimble in the twisites. In the really tight > stuff I can get it through easier then the VFR. Indeed, I like that little Magna! I wouldn't mind at all if I could find one for my wife (which I could steal away on occasionally myself). It seems like the small cruisers of the 80s are often decent handling bikes. Even Ursulina's 454, with it's 8' long forks, doesn't handle that badly (and the chamfered footpegs are way trick). Perhaps the light weight alone is sufficient to meet my "decent handling" requirement... FWIW, I'd like to check out the Maxim some time... :) You can feel free to ride The Tank. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 15:16:46 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA02762 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:16:02 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFC01@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'David Cross'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: (Fwd) Cheap new & leftover VFRs Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:16:01 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) What's wrong with you dude? I've never been on one before but I hear they are pigs in the turns. I'd never know it though because Steve Beck can sure put his through the turns well. Glenn >I've been tempted to trade my VFR for a V-Max anyway. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 15:17:52 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA02783 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:17:45 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: VFR's can lead? was: Cheap new & leftover VFRs Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:17:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > You tell 'em Dave, we people on VFR's need someone to stand up to > those big bulleys on those fancy shmancy supermoto Maxims :), > besides Collin, what's wrong with red?.... heh.. best of both worlds baby! best of both worlds.... :) Brian McCoy 81 Maxim 650 87 VFR 700 92/94 RS125 and some year (borrowed) VX800... From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 15:31:22 1999 Return-Path: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA03029 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:31:21 -0400 (EDT) From: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from TZimm2450@XXXXXX (7812) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2ZPYa12047 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8c28ef7d.2458bbe0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:30:40 EDT Subject: Oil Change To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Reply-To: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Today was a great day to ride. Changed the oil yesterday and lubed the chain today. Thought I would run around a little. About 8 miles into the ride, The back started slipping when I was taking right turns.....Hum A little later the rear brake wasn't working......ok kept riding, came up to a light and smelled smoke. Looked back over my shoulder and found that the right rear half of the bike was drenched in a liquid. Must be brake fluid. I started home and played with the rear brake to find that it still had pressure but didn't want to stop. OK. confused. Made it home and nearly dropped the bike because my right foot slipped in oil. Well, I should say my right foot covered with oil. I looked down to see that the damn oil filler cap had vibrated off and slung oil all over the damn place. What a mess. How do you clean about a quart of oil off the brakes, tire, seat, basically everything? What is a good rim cleaner that takes off that tacky PJ chain lube? It makes a mess of the rim and collects dirt. Laid up till parts come in Trevor 98YZF600 (slickest bike in town). From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 15:37:40 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA03160 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:37:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10ca7R-0003kU-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:35:41 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07752 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <008501be91af$3ab1fcc0$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: Subject: Re: (Fwd) Cheap new & leftover VFRs Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:42:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Its got all of the handling of the Maxim just with more power for the straights. Dave >What's wrong with you dude? I've never been on one before but I hear they >are pigs in the turns. I'd never know it though because Steve Beck can sure >put his through the turns well. > >Glenn > > > > >I've been tempted to trade my VFR for a V-Max anyway. > > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 15:39:53 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA03190 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:39:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA22852 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:39:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:39:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Oil Change In-Reply-To: <8c28ef7d.2458bbe0@aol.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 TZimm2450@XXXXXX wrote: > How do you clean about a quart of oil off the brakes, tire, seat, basically > everything? Replace the brake pads and use Simple Green on everything else... That'd be best. After getting that out of the way - if it was me I wouldn't buy new brake pads, I'd just sand them off... :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 17:02:09 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA04686 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:01:02 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:00:56 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:59:31 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Oil Change -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline You're going to have to take the pads out since they're probably glazed with oil. Hit 'em with some emery or sand paper to remove the glaze. Or buy new pads. For the metal parts, brake/contact cleaner should work, but check that it doesn't affect painted parts. At the very least I'd clean the brake rotor with the stuff. For the rest, I'd mix up a big bucket of soapy water, the soap being a big squirt of grease-cutting dishwashing liquid. For the really nasty stuff like the rim, get something like Formula 409 degreaser and a 3M Scotchbrite pad. I've also used a WD40-soaked rag to get this crap off the rim. Wheel cleaner spray foam may work, but I haven't used it on flung PJ. And do yourself a big favor and resist the urge to blast it with high pressure from a hose--you'll be forcing water into places you don't want it. After all your scrubbing, a gentle stream will do. To help cut down PJ fling in the future: Only lube your chain when it's hot, like when you just get back from a ride. Helps the lube go down into the chain. Then wipe the outside of the chain with a rag full of WD (a track stand will help here). The lube that comes off isn't doing anything but attracting dirt anyway. Good Luck. Joe -snip- What a mess. How do you clean about a quart of oil off the brakes, tire, seat, basically everything? What is a good rim cleaner that takes off that tacky PJ chain lube? It makes a mess of the rim and collects dirt. Laid up till parts come in Trevor 98YZF600 (slickest bike in town). From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 17:15:11 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA04963 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:14:12 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:14:06 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:12:29 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: (Fwd) Cheap new & leftover VFRs -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline -snip- I hear they >are pigs in the turns. I'd never know it though because Steve Beck can sure >put his through the turns well. Actually, Mr. Max is adequate in the turns as long as you're not doing anything funky with the throttle or trying to pretend you're Mick Doohan. Certainly no worse than most cruisers out there, and after all we are talkin' 140-hp, shaft drive and 62-inch wheelbase . . . Joe 900 Ninja (bought from a friend who went and got a VMax) From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 17:17:47 1999 Return-Path: brown@XXXXXX Received: from tiamat.obscure.org (root@XXXXXX [199.34.35.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04973 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:17:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tiamat.obscure.org (tiamat.obscure.org [199.34.35.130]) by tiamat.obscure.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA09483; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:17:43 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:17:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Brown To: JOE NAGY cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Oil Change -Reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Go to your favorite bicycle store. Buy a big jug of Citrus Degreaser. The stuff works wonders on grease and has for me, not been harmful to paint, skin, etc. Its also biodegradable and smells VERY orangy. YMMV. > What a mess. > How do you clean about a quart of oil off the brakes, tire, seat, > basically > everything? > What is a good rim cleaner that takes off that tacky PJ chain lube? It > makes > a mess of the rim and collects dirt. > > Laid up till parts come in > Trevor 98YZF600 (slickest bike in town). > Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 17:26:14 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA05095 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id VAA24409; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:22:08 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990428151201.IMHI20027@toddnt>; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:12:01 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Dale Horstman" , "Ken" , "'dc'" Subject: RE: Not a Surprise, PA Helmet Law Defeated.. Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:09:57 -0400 Message-ID: <000001be9189$2dd1e4f0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990427211420.11434.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > Thank you Sweet Lord. I've got lots of family and friends in PA. > Now they won't have to choose between being "cool" and being safe. > > Dale (donning the nomex...) Of course, it isn't a matter of having to choose, at least on this issue where the right to choose has been squashed by a very un-majority. But hey, they haven't outlawed cigarette smoking yet! There's still a chance to be "cool"! ;) Todd From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 17:33:35 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web808.mail.yahoo.com (web808.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA05245 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990428213642.13894.rocketmail@web808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web808.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:36:42 PDT Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:36:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: RE: Not a Surprise, PA Helmet Law Defeated.. To: Todd Peer , dc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Todd Peer wrote: > But hey, > they haven't outlawed cigarette smoking yet! There's still a chance > to be "cool"! ;) Actually, most of the Pennsylvanians I know think being cool is having a big ol' pickup truck with a winch on the front and a bed full of crushed beer can empties in the back. Hell, most of 'em could use helmets in those trucks, considering the bumpy conditions of PA backroads! :) === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 20:34:26 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA08415 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:34:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user122.anent.com [208.195.115.122]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA00103 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:33:50 -0400 Message-ID: <009801be91d7$ff4a2d00$7a73c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: FS: Aerostich Darien Pants SOLD Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:32:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 >For Sale: Aerostich Darien Pants Thanks to everyone who replied! The Darien Pants are sold. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 21:08:00 1999 Return-Path: blasalle@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08996 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:07:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-200-119-95.bellatlantic.net [151.200.119.95]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA22582 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3727B01B.83B73769@bellatlantic.net> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:04:27 -0400 From: Brian & Christa LaSalle Reply-To: blasalle@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Ride Friday? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I may be done work early on Friday again - you interested in going for a ride in the early afternoon - say 1:00? By the way - went to Clinton Cycles re: tires - for instillation they charge $45/wheel with the wheel on the bike or $25/wheel with the wheel off the bike, regardless of where you buy the tire. I will save around $75 if I order the tires I am thinking about off the internet (including shipping and handling) so I may go that route. Brian From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 21:39:07 1999 Return-Path: coolshane@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09504 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:39:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer ([12.78.117.5]) by mtiwmhc06.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07 118 124) with SMTP id <19990429013809.DCXI12357@oemcomputer>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:38:09 +0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:35:50 -0400 Message-ID: <01BE91BF.15A887E0.coolshane@att.net> From: Bret Hopkins Reply-To: "coolshane@XXXXXX" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'Bret's Work'" Subject: New Member Introduction Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:34:43 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Encoding: 34 TEXT Good Evening; I am a new member to the organization. I will make this as brief as possible, but I did want to introduce myself so when you start to receive questions and answers from me, at least you will have some sense of who I am. I was introduced to your group via Jay St. Peter. Name: Bret Hopkins, engineer, age 33 Spouse: Justine, stay at home mom Kids: Shane (just turned 2 year old boy) and second child due 5 July. Dogs: 2 (Sheltie/Hound mix and Black Lab) Home: Fairfax Station, VA Current motorcycle: '96 Honda ST1100 with 32,100 miles Former motorcycle: '83 Honda V45 Magna with 42,000 miles Car/truck: '93 Nissan Maxima for family/'90 F-250 for family and stuff AMA member since 1996 Publications: Motorcyclist, Motorcycle Consumer News, Rider, AMA, and occasionally Cycle World Riding since April 1993 I ride to work every day, nominally 55 miles a day. I travel for work a fair amount and will ride to TDY. I ride year round. Last year I drove three times. I do all my own wrenching on cars and motorcycles unless it is something major that I do not have the competence or tools to handle; in which case, I go kicking and screaming to Fast Lane Cycles (the best I have found). I have the Honda shop manual, but still need plenty of questions answered and helpful advice. Typical questions will be concerning suspension mods/upgrades, engine tuning enhancements, riding apparel, ST1100 general information, riding/racing events, good shops/mechanics to buy quality products and/or ask advice, etc. I look forward to getting to know you. Bret From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 21:41:47 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09517 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:41:46 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (2612) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2UOJa19644 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:37:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <41901521.245911f0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:37:52 EDT Subject: Summer intern needs a place to stay (NO M/C Content) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Reply-To: NJitzul@XXXXXX Hey everybody, I have a favor to ask on behalf of a friend. This summer (for three months or so), my friend is going to be an intern at NIH (?) in Bethesda. Problem is that he needs a place to stay and I have no space to offer him (and I'll be moving in early August anyways). He's willing to pay some rent and/or work around the house during his stay. If anyone can help out, e-mail me offlist and I'll put you in touch with him. Thanks! Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 22:22:36 1999 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA10155 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:22:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zellto (adsl-151-200-16-190.bellatlantic.net [151.200.16.190]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA27230; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:21:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002701be91e7$77e19d20$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> From: "Thomas and Jeannette" To: , Cc: "'Bret's Work'" References: <01BE91BF.15A887E0.coolshane@att.net> Subject: Re: New Member Introduction Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:22:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Welcome to the list Bret! -Tom '86 VFR750 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bret Hopkins To: Cc: 'Bret's Work' Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 9:34 PM Subject: New Member Introduction > Good Evening; > > I am a new member to the organization. I will make this as brief as > possible, but I did want to introduce myself so when you start to receive > questions and answers from me, at least you will have some sense of who I > am. I was introduced to your group via Jay St. Peter. > > Name: Bret Hopkins, engineer, age 33 > Spouse: Justine, stay at home mom > Kids: Shane (just turned 2 year old boy) and second child due 5 July. > Dogs: 2 (Sheltie/Hound mix and Black Lab) > Home: Fairfax Station, VA > Current motorcycle: '96 Honda ST1100 with 32,100 miles > Former motorcycle: '83 Honda V45 Magna with 42,000 miles > Car/truck: '93 Nissan Maxima for family/'90 F-250 for family and stuff > AMA member since 1996 > Publications: Motorcyclist, Motorcycle Consumer News, Rider, AMA, and > occasionally Cycle World > Riding since April 1993 > I ride to work every day, nominally 55 miles a day. I travel for work a > fair amount and will ride to TDY. > I ride year round. Last year I drove three times. > I do all my own wrenching on cars and motorcycles unless it is something > major that I do not have the competence or tools to handle; in which case, > I go kicking and screaming to Fast Lane Cycles (the best I have found). I > have the Honda shop manual, but still need plenty of questions answered and > helpful advice. > Typical questions will be concerning suspension mods/upgrades, engine > tuning enhancements, riding apparel, ST1100 general information, > riding/racing events, good shops/mechanics to buy quality products and/or > ask advice, etc. > > I look forward to getting to know you. > Bret > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 22:25:10 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA10188 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:25:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-78-18.s18.as5.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.78.18]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA06809 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000201be91e7$bcbb0a80$124eaccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: YSR Racing at Monrovia Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:26:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This Sunday is the first race at Monrovia Raceway, in Frederick MD. I plan on taking a ride up on Sunday. Directions are on there website at http://www.teamcalamari.com/dox/earra.html. The YSR racing is a blast on these little bikes. The classes include the following: Stock, Supersport, 50GP, 60GP, 80GP. If you have never seen them its a must. Brian N (Yamaha FZR600) From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 28 22:40:26 1999 Return-Path: sayatm@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA10428 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (207-172-40-125.s125.tnt11.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.40.125]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id WAA12202 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3727C737.4B6B@erols.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:43:03 -0400 From: sayat Reply-To: sayatm@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: looking for a good lawyer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there anyone who knows a good lawyer. ANd any idea How much will cost me??? Thanks...... Sayat Muratoglu 98 YZF 600cc From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 00:17:21 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA12052 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id AAA12262 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE91D5.745917D0@XXXXXX>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:15:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'dcc'" Subject: FW: AMA Press Release Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:15:56 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought some of y'all might be interested in reading this. Rich=20 '78 Triumph Bonneville '99 Enfield Bullet Sterling >> >> AMA Outraged over Tennessee Freeway name >> >> PICKERINGTON, Ohio -- The state of Tennessee will name a stretch = of >> >> highway after a state senator who killed a motorcyclist in a traffic >> >> collision near that highway. The American Motorcyclist Association = (AMA) >> >> calls the legislation an outrage and is urging motorcyclists to help = stop >> >> the further callous insult to the motorcyclist >> >> =EDs family and friends. >> >> On April 7, Tennessee Gov. Don Sundquist signed into law a bill = to >> >> designate a section of Interstate 140 near Knoxville -- stretching = from >> >> Interstate 40 in Knox County to U.S. Highway 321 in Blount County -- = as the >> >> "Senator Carl O. Koella, Jr. Memorial Highway." Signs bearing the new = name >> >> are expected to be erected this summer. >> >> AMA member Terry Barnard of Huron, Ohio, was touring on his = motorcycle >> >> along Highway 321 in Blount County in October 1996 when an oncoming = van >> >> bearing state Senate license plates and driven by Koella turned left >> >> directly in front of him. Barnard struck the van and was killed. = Witnesses >> >> reported the van driver briefly stopped, got out of the van, then got = back >> >> in and drove off. >> >> Despite descriptions of the van and its special license plates, = and >> >> the fact that Koella lived just up the road where the van had turned, >> >> police waited nearly four hours after the accident before they = interviewed >> >> Koella. >> >> While a grand jury determined he should face felony charges, = Koella >> >> pleaded "no contest" in May 1997 in a plea bargain to a misdemeanor = charge >> >> of leaving the scene of a fatal accident. He was fined $2,500 and = ordered >> >> to perform 30 days community service. >> >> Koella died in January 1998 following emergency heart surgery. >> >> Sen. Bill Clabough, who assumed Koella's Senate seat, sponsored = the >> >> bill to name the stretch of freeway after Koella because of what he = called >> >> Koella's "exemplary public service" as a legislator, and cited his >> >> =ECtremendous leadership on transportation issues, particularly in = the >> >> development of U.S Highway 321...=ED=ED >> >> The AMA has extensively reported in American Motorcyclist = magazine on >> >> the death of Barnard and the subsequent treatment of Koella since the = fatal >> >> collision. In his column in the June issue of American Motorcyclist, = Greg >> >> Harrison, AMA vice president for communications, calls this new = decision by >> >> the Tennessee Legislature ``totally outrageous.=ED=ED >> >> "Naming any highway after the late senator is offensive to = Terry=EDs >> >> family and all sensible people,=ED=ED Harrison said. "Naming a = highway for >> >> Koella that ends on the very road where Terry Barnard was killed is = nothing >> >> short of an `in-your-face=ED action to his family and many = friends.=ED=ED >> >> Harrison has written state officials, vowing to never spend = another >> >> penny of his family vacation time or tourist dollars in Knox and = Blount >> >> counties if the memorial highway signs are erected. >> >> The AMA suggests that if you=EDd like to share your concise and = civil >> >> comments, send them to Sen. Bill Clabough, 309 War Memorial Bldg., >> >> Nashville, TN 37243 (e-mail = sen.bill.clabough,@legislature.state.tn.us) and >> >> Gov. Don Sundquist, State Capitol, Nashville, TN 37243-0001 (e-mail >> >> dsundquist@XXXXXX). Copies can be sent to the Knoxville >> >> News-Sentinel, P.O. Box 59038, Knoxville, TN 37950-9038 (e-mail >> >> letters@XXXXXX) and the Daily Times, 307 E. Harper Ave., = Maryville, TN >> >> 37501 (e-mail: dean.stone@XXXXXX). >> >> For more information on this issue, see the AMA's website at >> >> www.ama-cycle.org and the July issue of American Motorcyclist. >> From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 07:33:24 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA18943 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:33:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:32:39 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFC0A@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'TZimm2450@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Oil Change Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:32:38 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) My suggestion is a can of brake cleaner. Its not really harsh on the paint like carb cleaner and I think it does a better job then Simple Green. Glenn >How do you clean about a quart of oil off the brakes, tire, seat, basically >everything? >What is a good rim cleaner that takes off that tacky PJ chain lube? It makes >a mess of the rim and collects dirt. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 07:54:17 1999 Return-Path: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA19235 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:54:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 85256762.004139B7 ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:52:26 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: "Brian N" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256762.0041089A.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:52:22 -0400 Subject: Re: YSR Racing at Monrovia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I will be in that area on Sunday an might have time to check these races out. Do you know what time the races start? I looked on the web page, but I didn't see any start times. Steve Beck From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 08:39:06 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com (ndcrelay2.mcit.com [166.37.172.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19883 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA25053; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:35:10 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990429123903.DRSK10050@toddnt>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:39:03 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Cc: "'Bret's Work'" Subject: RE: New Member Introduction Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:36:35 -0400 Message-ID: <000101be923c$eb72b990$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <01BE91BF.15A887E0.coolshane@att.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > I am a new member to the organization. I will make this as brief as > possible, but I did want to introduce myself so when you start to receive > questions and answers from me, at least you will have some sense of who I > am. I was introduced to your group via Jay St. Peter. > > Name: Bret Hopkins, engineer, age 33 > Current motorcycle: '96 Honda ST1100 with 32,100 miles > Former motorcycle: '83 Honda V45 Magna with 42,000 miles You got my attention. Gleen too I bet. > I ride to work every day, nominally 55 miles a day. I travel for work a > fair amount and will ride to TDY. > I ride year round. Last year I drove three times. Excellent! Fairfax Station. So you use I66 HOV? I'm in Springfield and use I95 HOV. I love it. There are quite a few on this list who ride year around. > Typical questions will be concerning suspension mods/upgrades, engine > tuning enhancements, riding apparel, ST1100 general information, Go here as a start to any/all questions answered about the ST100: http://www.fremme.no/st1100/ There is a link guiding you to sign onto the ST1100 List. > > I look forward to getting to know you. > Bret Glad you dropped a note Bret. Todd 91 - ST1100 92 - CB750 94 - XT350 From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 08:41:32 1999 Return-Path: rdrdr@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19896 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:41:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (207-172-239-253.s62.as8.rkv.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.239.253]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA00289; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <024a01be9256$60448aa0$1df3accf@default> From: "rdrdr" To: , Subject: Cleaning solvent Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:38:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0247_01BE921B.B0D9F940" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0247_01BE921B.B0D9F940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Trevor wrote: >What is a good rim cleaner that takes off that tacky PJ chain lube? It = makes >a mess of the rim and collects dirt. >Laid up till parts come in >Trevor 98YZF600 (slickest bike in town). I ride a Suzuki DR650 and keep it way dirty too much of the time (I also = use blue PJ on the chain) and here is what I found: You can spend your money on various cleaners but nothing cleans better = than Coleman Fuel. Its very very cheap, can be purchased at any camping gear or sporting = goods stores and cleans grime with ease. I'm not sure what it would do to your paint (only my gass tank and frame = are painted) but it does nothing to mine. Oh, and...don't smoke or run the engine when using it ! Niv DR650 DC ------=_NextPart_000_0247_01BE921B.B0D9F940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Trevor wrote:
 
>What is a good rim cleaner that = takes off=20 that tacky PJ chain lube?  It makes
>a mess of the rim and = collects=20 dirt.

>Laid up till parts come in
>Trevor 98YZF600 = (slickest=20 bike in town).
 
I ride a Suzuki DR650 and keep it = way dirty too=20 much of the time (I also use blue PJ on the chain) and here is what I=20 found:
 
You can spend your money on various = cleaners but=20 nothing cleans better than Coleman Fuel.
 
Its very very cheap, can be = purchased at any=20 camping gear or sporting goods stores and cleans grime with = ease.
I'm not sure what it would do to = your paint=20 (only my gass tank and frame are painted) but it does nothing to=20 mine.
 
Oh, and...don't smoke or run the = engine when=20 using it !
 
 
Niv
DR650
DC
------=_NextPart_000_0247_01BE921B.B0D9F940-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 09:45:02 1999 Return-Path: Hopkins_Bret@XXXXXX Received: from relay.navsea.navy.mil (relay.navsea.navy.mil [140.195.79.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA20862 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:45:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Hopkins_Bret@XXXXXX Received: from gw2.hq.navsea.navy.mil (gw2.hq.navsea.navy.mil [140.195.79.12]) by relay.navsea.navy.mil (8.6.9/1.9) with SMTP id JAA19737; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:59:38 -0400 Received: from ccMail by gw2.hq.navsea.navy.mil (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 0036DFF4; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:38:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:39:13 -0400 Message-ID: <0036DFF4.1554@hq.navsea.navy.mil> Subject: Re[2]: New Member Introduction To: , , "Todd Peer" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Todd, Thank you for the note. I commute to Crystal City. I use the Fairfax County Parkway to 395 HOV. It works great. Nominally 35 minutes no mater what time I come and go as long as the HOV rules are still enforced. I have probably seen some of you on the road. I wear a black leather Firstgear jacket with a orange safety vest, black Olympia gloves, white Shoei RF-200 helmet, Alpinestar TechRoad boots, and green US Marine issue camouflage pants. Some of this sounds like an advertisement, it is not meant to be, but if someone wanted to ask my opinion of what I wear and why, it would facilitate that. I have been trying to scrape the funds together to buy a 38L Aerostich one piece. If there is anyone out there looking to part ways with one, I would be willing to listen. I forgot to mention that I garage a buddy's bike ('96 Ducati M900) and wife's bike (Honda '9? Rebel) for the record. We have been tinkering this spring with his Monster and I will invariable throw some questions out looking for advice with that bike. His wife's bike will probably get no more attention than routine maintenance for safety related items. Bret ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: New Member Introduction Author: "Todd Peer" at Internet Date: 4/29/99 8:36 AM > I am a new member to the organization. I will make this as brief as > possible, but I did want to introduce myself so when you start to receive > questions and answers from me, at least you will have some sense of who I > am. I was introduced to your group via Jay St. Peter. > > Name: Bret Hopkins, engineer, age 33 > Current motorcycle: '96 Honda ST1100 with 32,100 miles > Former motorcycle: '83 Honda V45 Magna with 42,000 miles You got my attention. Gleen too I bet. > I ride to work every day, nominally 55 miles a day. I travel for work a > fair amount and will ride to TDY. > I ride year round. Last year I drove three times. Excellent! Fairfax Station. So you use I66 HOV? I'm in Springfield and use I95 HOV. I love it. There are quite a few on this list who ride year around. > Typical questions will be concerning suspension mods/upgrades, engine > tuning enhancements, riding apparel, ST1100 general information, Go here as a start to any/all questions answered about the ST100: http://www.fremme.no/st1100/ There is a link guiding you to sign onto the ST1100 List. > > I look forward to getting to know you. > Bret Glad you dropped a note Bret. Todd 91 - ST1100 92 - CB750 94 - XT350 From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 09:47:05 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20872 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id JAA15771; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:47:01 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id JAA03987; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:47:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Saddle bags + near-dead-experience on bike (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Saw this on the KZ/GPZ/ZR list and though it was bizarre enough to be of interest. Not a Honda Head, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > From: Hansi og Majbritt > To: Kawasaki Group ; Jay M. Costanzo Sr. > Subject: Re: Saddle bags + near-dead-experience on bike > Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 7:26 AM > > The luggage rack and bags are German made Hepco and Becker bags. The rack > between the bags are some kind of custom mad which I have enforced by > welding. The bags can contain up to 40 L each and are made of some hard > black PVC-like plastic. Contrary to many other types of bags these are fully > water-proof and of very high quality. > Another benefit is the opening of the bag (which you of cause can not see on > the picture). Instead of placing the opening in the middle of the bag the > opening of these bags are placed near the top. This way it is easier to pack > the bag. Bags with the opening placed in the middle are often difficult to > use all the available space and they tend to be less water-proof due to this > construction. > > A little story from my biking life (including the bags somehow): > In spring 1993, I was on my way home from Switzerland to Denmark at 3 in the > night. I was doing around 100 mph on the motorway in Germany when suddenly > the bike was "gently" pushed from the outer to the inner lane (i.e. from the > left lane to the right lane). It felt like a big blast of wind. > I looked to the left and saw a Seat Toledo (car) going into the crash fence > in the middle of the motorway - a great deal of sparks was flying after it > as the side of the car hit the fence. I was a bit surprised. It looked like > something from a movie. > Well, we both pulled over. He told me that he too was going around 100 mph > and he had thought that I was in the inner lane and could pass me - instead > he drove into my bike. My guess is that he had fallen to sleep, he seemed > quit dizzy and he told me that he had to be in Bremen to hours later which > were approx.. 350 miles away! > After some minutes of "thinking" I realised that he must have hit the left > side of the bike. I looked to that side of the bike and the left Hepco and > Becker bag was missing. I was not that sharp - please consider the time of > night and situation - but then I realised that the bag had to be 2-300 > metres further back on the motorway. So it had to take at least 5 minutes be > fore we went back to find the bag. > At this time almost every vehicle on the road were trucks and my bag had > already been hit a couple of times as well as hitting the road at 100 mph. > The lid was torn off but everything in the bag was alright - even a bottle > of vine wrapped in some towels. Most of the bag-fittings were missing but I > managed to get the bag onto the rack with some strings. > We wrote an accident report and later I received a brand new set of Givi > bags (which was mounted onto a GPz500S - the Hepco and Becker did not fit > this model) paid by his insurance. > > I was lucky from at least to angles: > 1) If he had actually fallen to sleep and the difference in speed had been > greater he most certainly would have made the bike crash, by the way: we > were on the middle of a bridge. > 2) If I had been driving without the bags and the rack, he would have hit me > directly on the leg/frame instead of hitting the bag. The rack actually > worked as a "bumper" and was heavily deformed by the impact. > > I have earlier and later crashed a coupled of times, but without actually > crashing this is still my most dangerous experience on a bike. > > It could be interesting to hear other stories - with lucky and happy endings > like this one... > > > Best Regards/Venlig hilsen > Hansi > > ...did he fire six shots or only five? From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 09:56:30 1999 Return-Path: SuazoT@XXXXXX Received: from seg-pdc.seg-inc.com (mail.seg-inc.com [207.96.22.190]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20972 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:56:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.seg-inc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:55:40 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Suazo, Tony" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Motorcycle Trailer Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:55:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain I'm heading to Pennsylvania this weekend to visit with my fiance's parents. Lori will be heading up tonight, but I'll be going up tomorrow with Mom. Unfortnately, Mom doesn't drive. I'd like to take my bike up, but I'm in need of a trailer. Does anyone on the list have a trailer I could borrow for the weekend? Or, does anyone know where I could rent one? Thanks. Tony CBR600 F3 From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 10:20:02 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21467 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-109-175.s48.as3.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.109.175]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16544; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:19:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904291419.KAA16544@smtp3.erols.com> From: "D. Thompson" To: , "Suazo, Tony" Subject: Re: Motorcycle Trailer Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:21:21 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit snip> Does anyone on the list have a trailer I could borrow for the weekend? Or, > does > anyone know where I could rent one? > > Thanks. > > Tony > CBR600 F3 Tony, Hey man, how is it going? Sorry to hear about your encounter with the police. As for the trailer, try Leslie at l4rite@XXXXXX She offered her trailer to me for the Ft.Valley Trail Ride and doesn't even know me. Leslie, If your out there and I am overstepping my boundries, I'm sorry. I was just so impressed by your offer I figured if nothing else everyone else should know how nice you are. Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 10:26:29 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21498 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:26:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA10923 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:26:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:26:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Motorcycle Trailer In-Reply-To: <199904291419.KAA16544@smtp3.erols.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, D. Thompson wrote: > Hey man, how is it going? Sorry to hear about your encounter with the > police. As for the trailer, try Leslie at l4rite@XXXXXX > She offered her trailer to me for the Ft.Valley Trail Ride and doesn't even > know me. Methinks a sex change may have occured somewhere along the line! :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 10:30:46 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21638 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990429143240.15016.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web308.yahoomail.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:32:40 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:32:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Motorcycle Trailer To: "D. Thompson" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Suazo, Tony" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ummm.. Leslie's a nice person and all, but I'm sure HE would be upset at being called a SHE ;-) especially considering that he's a BIG fella...he he he Actually Danny, I think you have met him and his girlfriend. They were both cornerworking at Summit this past weekend. He was the very tall blonde guy helping us pack up on Sunday. I still haven't caught his girlfriends name, but she's super sweet as well.... Tony, I'd be happy to loan you my trailer; however, I already made a commitment to help a friend move a lot of stuff from storage tomorrow evening...Sorry Collin --- "D. Thompson" wrote: > > Hey man, how is it going? Sorry to hear about your encounter with the > police. As for the trailer, try Leslie at l4rite@XXXXXX > She offered her trailer to me for the Ft.Valley Trail Ride and > doesn't even > know me. > === Collin T. 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 10:49:28 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from www0p.netaddress.usa.net (www0p.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.45]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21896 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:49:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 688 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 1999 14:49:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990429144918.687.qmail@www0p.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.45 by www0p via web-mailer(M3.0.0.70) on Thu Apr 29 14:49:17 GMT 1999 Date: 29 Apr 99 10:49:17 EDT From: LindaT To: dc Subject: Re: Motorcycle Trailer CC: SuazoT@XXXXXX X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.70) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That 'trailer loan' offer may have been from me. I have a perfectly good= trailer I am will to loan to almost anyone. Tony, mail me at ljtanner@XXXXXX and we can set something up. I have = to find a new home for my trailer by Monday anyway as the pool is opening an= d the condo-nazis won't let me park is at my house. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (54K miles and counting) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle = http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/index.html ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 10:55:22 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22002 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-109-175.s48.as3.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.109.175]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06251 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904291455.KAA06251@smtp3.erols.com> From: "D. Thompson" To: Subject: Re: Motorcycle Trailer Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:56:25 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Public Apology! Leslie I'm sorry. Thanks to the ENTIRE list for correcting my mistake. :) Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 > Methinks a sex change may have occured somewhere along the line! :) > > Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 10:59:06 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22133 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A3B119340292; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:58:57 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990429105405.012d8af0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:58:05 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Kill a Biker, Get a Highway Named after You Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Remember that Tennessee legislator that killed a biker, ran away, got indicted by a grand jury, then died? Tennessee has passed a law to name a highway after him! Chris Norloff http://www.ama-cycle.org/magazine/1999/story1je.html Greg Harrison Column: A Monumental Mistake June 1999 I’ve seen a lot of outrageous things happen in politics since I’ve been working here, but this tops them all. It’s the equivalent of issuing a series of O.J. Simpson autographed steak knives. And no, this isn’t a joke. What I’m talking about is the latest twist in a case you’ve read about here before. It’s the case of Tennessee Sen. Carl Koella. If you don’t know the original story, read on. If you do, stick with me--you need to hear what’s happening now. The story begins on a late afternoon in October 1996, when AMA member Terry Barnard was touring on his motorcycle along U.S. Route 321 in Blount County, Tennessee, southeast of Knoxville. Terry had ridden down from Ohio to enjoy the great roads and fall colors in the Smoky Mountains. That ride, and Terry’s life, ended when an oncoming van turned left directly in front of him. Police reports said his motorcycle struck the side of the van and caromed off it into a stopped car. Witnesses reported the driver of the van pulled across the road, stopped, got out, then got back in and drove off. Terry was life-flighted to a nearby hospital where he was pronounced dead. He was 52, and left a wife, family and many friends to grieve for him. Back at the accident scene, witnesses gave investigators a detailed description of the blue van that caused the crash, right down to its state Senate license plate. And who lived right up the road where the van turned? State Sen. Carl Koella, who happened to own a blue van displaying Senate plates. Yet it mysteriously took nearly four hours before the police even knocked on the senator’s door--and almost five hours after the accident before Koella took a blood--alcohol test. It turned out that Koella had spent the afternoon with Gov. Don Sundquist, who had traveled to Koella’s home district to bolster support during a close election campaign. Koella was driving home from that affair when he claimed he “heard a thunk, and thought I had run over a sign or a rock or something.” He said he got out, checked the driver’s side of his van for damage, noticed a traffic accident across the highway, then got back in and drove home. Koella even called the Sheriff’s Department at about 7 p.m., saying that he thought someone behind him had run over a sign, and adding that he had been told that he hit someone. The officer who took the call said he mumbled and sounded confused. A grand jury determined Koella should face felony charges, but the senator copped a plea on a misdemeanor count. He was fined $2,500 and sentenced to 30 days of community service. At his sentencing hearing, Joyce Barnard, Terry’s widow, finally got to face Koella in court. “Eyewitnesses said you got out of your van, walked a few feet toward the scene, then turned around, got back in your van and left, leaving my Terry dying in a ditch along the road,” she told him. “Any decent person would have run to the scene to see if he could help in any way. Why didn’t you?” It’s a question we’ve all wondered about. Ironically, Carl Koella himself then died in January 1998 following emergency heart surgery. End of a very sad and appalling situation? Oh, no. Here’s the “in-your-face” update, courtesy of the Tennessee House and Senate. Sen. Bill Clabough, who replaced Koella, recently introduced Senate Bill 923 “to pay tribute to the late Senator Carl O. Koella for his exemplary public service.” The bill notes: “Whereas, Carl Koella truly epitomized the ideal of the dedicated and proficient public servant, and he often exceeded the call of duty? Whereas Sen. Koella demonstrated tremendous leadership on transportation issues, particularly in the development of U.S. Highway 321 (our italics).” Where is all this rhetoric heading? You won’t believe it. “It is important that the members of this body establish a lasting tribute dedicated to the memory of our longtime friend and colleague. Therefore, that segment of Interstate Highway 140 beginning at its intersection with Interstate 40 in Knox County to its terminus at U.S. Highway 321 in Blount County is hereby designated as the ‘Sen. Carl O. Koella Jr. Memorial Highway.’ ’’ Here’s the new rule: Kill a biker, get a highway named after you. The bill was signed into law by Sundquist on April 7. Two signs will be erected to note the designation. We’ll have more on this incredible development next month. Meanwhile, you might consider sending your concise and civil comments to: Sen. Bill Clabough, 309 War Memorial Bldg., Nashville, TN 37243 (e-mail can be directed to: sen.bill.clabough@XXXXXX); and Gov. Donald Sundquist, State Capitol, Nashville, TN 37243-0001 (e-mail: dsundquist@XXXXXX). Please send copies of your letters or e-mails to the Knoxville News-Sentinel, P.O. Box 59038, Knoxville, TN 37950-9038 (e-mail: letters@XXXXXX) and The Daily Times, 307 E. Harper Ave., Maryville, TN 37501 (e-mail: dean.stone@XXXXXX). Me? I’d like to send them the following message: As a tourist who has spent a lot of family vacation dollars in Sen. Clabough’s district, if those signs go up, you’ll never see another penny of mine in Knox or Blount counties. Copyright American Motorcyclist Association, 1999. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 10:59:29 1999 Return-Path: SuazoT@XXXXXX Received: from seg-pdc.seg-inc.com (mail.seg-inc.com [207.96.22.190]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22152 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.seg-inc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:58:36 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Suazo, Tony" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Mom Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:58:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain <> I like this idea! Actually, my mom told me she's been on the back of a bike only once on a date to the movies. Unfortunately, it was only once. Too bad she didn't marry the guy, I could have grown up riding dirt bikes! Tony From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 11:14:18 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22415 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:14:16 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA07242; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:13:37 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma006434; Thu, 29 Apr 99 11:12:33 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FAY006Q2IB4RA@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256762.00535929 ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:10:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:04:25 -0400 Subject: Changing Roster Info? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256762.00542CC1.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hi all. I need to change my information in the dc-cycles member roster on the webpage due to my new bike acquisition. Who do I need to talk to? Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 11:14:29 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22425 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 29 Apr 1999 15:14:23 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA25589 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:14:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: I found this amusing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Someone posted to the VFR list '131 ways to drop your bike'. Normally I dont cross-post, but I found this one quite amusing, as I think I have personally encountered almost a dozen of these. No, I haven't DROPPED my bike a dozen times, but still... I think this pretty much covers QUITE a bit of the stuff you see on the street. If you think it sucks, just let me know, and I wont forward any more crap I see :P Alex. '99 Bike Limbo >From vfr750fv@XXXXXX Thu Apr 29 11:11:43 1999 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:41:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Bird Reply-To: vfr@XXXXXX To: vfr@XXXXXX Subject: 131 ways to drop a bike.. (Svfrc) 131 (or more) Ways To Drop Your Bike 1. Putting your foot into a hole when stopping. 2. Putting your foot down on something slippery when stopping (gravel, dog shit etc). 3. Locking the front wheel during overenthusiastic braking. 4. Missing the driveway and sliding on the grass. 5. Not putting the kickstand down when getting off. 6. Make a turn from stop in gravel or sand at high throttle. 7. Not putting a board under the kickstand on asphalt on a hot day. 8. Letting overenthusiastic people sit on your bike who have never been on a bike. 9. Forgetting the bike's in gear when you jump on the kickstarter. 10. Revving the engine, releasing clutch, and putting feet on pegs when the light turns green, but the bike's in neutral. 11. Not putting your foot down when stopping on red light. 12. Losing balance when putting it on the centerstand. 13. Take an hour ride in 30 degree weather with no gloves, stop at a stop sign and pop the clutch when you start cause you've lost feeling in your hands. 14. Putting your foot down at a toll booth on the thick layer of grease that builds up when cars stop. 15. Using too much power when you pull out of a greasy toll booth. 16. Ignoring the sand that builds up in the spring at the side of the road in places that sand and salt roads in winter.(my wife dumped her bike at the end of our driveway last week) 17. Kicking your kickstand in a cool fashion and having it bounce back up instead of staying down. 18. Getting off your bike while it is running and forgetting that is in gear. (should have seen my wife do this one) 19. Trying to kickstart your first bike over and over 'cause you didn't realize that it was really out of fuel, and getting the goofy metal ring on the side of your boot caught in the kickstarter, causing you (and the bike) to go over on the right side. 20. Starting your brand-new electric-start trail-bike, riding around an ornamental shrub on full left lock, throwing it to the right and accelerating to wheelie over the curb onto the street and _then_ discovering that you hadn't unlocked the steering-lock... 21. On same bike, getting the dual-range lever caught inside your jeans as you come to a stop... 22. Having your boot/jeans catch the gear-lever and putting your running bike into first gear whilst reaching for the side-stand (which is why I now automatically pull in the clutch whenever deploying or retracting the stand). 23. Having "green" racing linings which have much higher coefficient of friction on the slight rust that forms on the polished drum when you've not ridden for a few hours, and lose the front-end holding the brakes on against the throttle to wear off the rust, with your brother on the back... 24. Having a three-cylinder two-stroke that's so smooth you think you're in second when you're actually in first, so you spin out when the undercarriage touches down in a tight corner passing a car and you think, "just a bit more throttle will help here..." 25. Revving bike in impressive squidly fashion at red light, thinking it's in neutral; dropping clutch and standing in place while bike wheelies and backflips into intersection. (saw it happen) 26. Having your fat-ass brother (as a pillion) lean waaay over to the side to look at something on the ground while at a stop sign. 27. Wife gets foot caught in saddlebag while getting on before you. 28. Rebuild carbs and treat bike like it still needs full gas away from a stop. 29. Add bald tires, and a smattering of rain to 28. 30. Look at the sand at the edge of the exit ramp rather than through the turn. 31. Neither you nor your dad watching while he's backing his car up to the woodpile to unload wood. 32. Not putting the pin that holds the center stand all the way in and then trying to put the bike on the center stand. 33. Trying to hold the bike upright before deploying the center stand only to find your knees are too weak from riding. 34. Park behind friend's mom's minivan figuring "If anybody goes anywhere, they'll surely see it. 'specially since there'll be 5 of them getting into the van. Why can't at LEAST ONE OF THEM LOOK AND SEE THE MOTORCYCLE SO PLAINLY IN VIEW BEHIND THEM?" "Damn." 35. After getting fuel at gas station and holding the bike level with your legs in order to fill it completely, jumping off forgetting that your legs were holding it upright not the kickstand. 36. Entering a DR ("decreasing radius") turn at too high of a speed... This is especially dangerous when making a right turn where if you attempt to straighten up and brake, you'll plow into oncoming traffic... 37. Trying to countersteer (or wheelie) your shaft driven bike? ;-} 38. Getting your boot/ shoelace caught on the gearshift. (I wear laceless boots now). 39. Attempting to kick start a cantankerous '84 CR500, whilst standing on a picnic table bench, and she *kicks* back! 40. Getting pissed off for dropping it in the first place, yanking it vigorously off the ground, only to have it dropped on the _other_ side. 41. Pulling out the swingarm stand, and forgetting to put the sidestand down first. 42. Backing down an inclined driveway, turning to either side with a full tank of gas. 43. Taking the bike off the centerstand and forgetting the sidestand. 44. Riding on wet grass with street tires (Almost as bad as ice!!) 45. Riding on wet asphalt with dirt tires (Almost as bad as ice!!) 46. *Thinking* the kick stand was down when it wasn't 47. Kick stand slowly burying itself in hot asphalt 48. Kick stand slowly burying itself in soft ground 49. Backing up perpendicular to a steeply sloped driveway and attempting to put your foot down on the downhill side while on a large bike with a high seat. (By the time your foot reaches the ground the bike is so far off center balance you won't be able to hold it up.) 50. Backing your bike down a plank, by yourself, from the bed of a pickup truck. Works great as long as you remember that once you start moving stopping for any correction is out of the question. Get two people to stand on each side of you and the bike. 51. Losing your balance when coming to a stop because of fatigue from a long trip. The wind and the buzz of the bike induces an unexpected case of vertigo. Stop often and rest. 52. Riding beyond your limits while trying to keep up with someone who is probably riding beyond their own. Always a temptation. The best riders/racers understand and use discipline when riding. 53. Not paying attention. Always strive to anticipate what could possibly go wrong and be planning what your going to do when it happens, eventually it will - and you'll be ready, instead of surprised when your much more likely to do something stupid and reactionary. 54. Assuming that all wet roads are created equal. They are much more slippery when it first starts to rain - until the oil and dirt are washed away. 55. Assuming that the condition of a blind corner is the same as it was the last time you rode it. Instead you find sticks, road kill, oil, rain wash, stones, pot holes, garbage etc. etc. 56. Not understanding how to get set-up for a corner when pushing the limits. In most cases the bike could have made the corner but the rider decided it couldn't and while in a panic attempted to correct the situation with the brake. WRONG! MSF course will discuss this at length. 57. Riding without all of the protective equipment because I forgot to bring it and after all it was just this one time. Turned out to be the wrong time! I forgot my MX boots and fell on a steeply banked corner and the foot peg attempted to drill into the back of my right calf. On crutches for 3 weeks with a deep bruise. 58. Using a little too much power turning the first corner after you've put on new tyres (with that nice slippery release compound on them). 59. Being to short for the bike you are riding, and coming to a stop sign. 60. Your rider hops on before you are ready. 61. Pushing your bike into the garage and letting it get leaned just a little away from you, pulling you on top of it to the ground. 63. Pulling off both fork caps while the bike is on its centerstand (did this) 64. Park pointing downhill, don't leave it in gear (almost did this, but caught it) 65. Park with sidestand facing up hill, sidestand is too long (Yamaha Radian 600) 66. Allow friend to ride bike that has either no riding experience, or only tiny dirtbike riding experience (they will wheelie out of control, fly straight at the nearest object, or drop it attempting to stop suddenly-happened to my bike twice) 67. Pulling into Dairy Queen and slipping on a spilt chocolate malt. 68. Sitting on your bike on an inclined driveway talking to a very pretty girl, forgetting where in the hell your mind is and then noticing that it's already too close to the ground to stop. 69. Change rear-end oil on a shaft drive bike, spill 90w on tire, don't clean it up and then make a really sharp turn out of the driveway. *Splat* 70. Parking your bike so that it stands upright w/the kick stand down and then having a slow leak in the rear tire which causes the kick stand to push the bike over (long story). 71. Running into a bus after a 120mph+ high speed chase where there is helicopter pursuit and you are being taped by 5 local news stations. 72. Spending 3 hours washing and waxing your bike and then stepping back to admire it with some buddies and then watch it fall right off its side stand while it was warming up. 73. Pushing it over. 74. Covering it with a windsail (aka canvas cover) and letting the wind push it over. 75. Unbolting too many components from the back so that the bike falls off the jack. 76. Having an internally rusted CX500 centre stand come apart whilst putting the bike onto it. 77. Discovering when you stop and try to put your foot down that the kickstart lever is up your pantleg. 78. Letting your wife drive the bike and having her stall it on an inclined driveway while in a 45 degree angle to the incline. 79. Entering a banked freeway onramp with a stoplight at the end, and realizing a little too late that the downside is just a _little_ steeper than you thought. 80. Whacking the throttle open on the highway when you think there's no cop around then slowing to normal speed again only to realize that a trooper has been trying to catch up with you for two miles and he's pissed so he decides to run you off the road because he thinks you were trying to run away from him, even though you explain to him that if you were trying to run that he wouldn't have caught you then getting out of any tickets because the *@!!$#, uh I mean cop, felt bad even though he never said "I'm sorry" . . . .but I'm not bitter 81. While pushing your bike in an attempt to start it compression,jumping on side-saddle with excessive vigor. 82. Successfully compression starting your bike while running alongside, only to find out that you'd held a BIT too much throttle! 83. Deploying the centre-stand without noticing that the ground falls away on the other side. 84. Taking the wife on a ride on your brand new, first bike in 20+ years and making a slow, tight, turn on gravel. . . . 85. Riding in stilettos and getting stuck on the footrest 86. Swinging your legs too enthusiastically over the bike with tight trousers on and kicking it over 87. Dismounting while trying not to wet yourself (cold weather..tuh!) 88. Riding short distances side-saddle fashion 89. Pulling off with a blood alcohol level exceeding the stated limit... 90. reaching down to pick up your gloves/keys/glasses. 91. paying too much attention to the tiltometer on your valkarie 92. Dropping your dirtbike on the side of a steep hill covered in pine humus, then while getting it righted go over the down side because it's too far of an angle to get a foot down. 93. Trying to ride away on the side of a steep hill covered in pine humus which is slipperier than sand. 94. Bopping down the freshly-oiled farm lane to see the neighbor kid with my brother on the back, cautiously toeing the rear brake, feeling the rear wheel slide as we headed straight for the barn, grabbing a panicky handful of front brake, doing a slow highside despite dabbing mightily, sliding right up to the barn door prone on the well-oiled bike with my brother on top of the pile, and hearing the neighbor say "Didn't that thing used to be orange?" 95. kill the bike while leaned over trying to make a slow, sharp turn in a parking lot 96. Forgetting to remove the disc lock and taking off from the curb with haste.... Tends to break front caliper too. 97. Falling asleep. 98. Getting help from a neighbor in pushing your 750 up a steep ramp into a moving truck. Though he might assure you that he used to ride a motorcycle, it turns out it was a 125 in Bombay. He gets 2/3 of the way up the ramp, looks panicked, and his knees buckle. Crunch. 99. looking at the pretty curb to your left on a right-hand bank. 100.Trying to get a wasp out of your jacket while sitting on the bike, got stung twice before the bike fell. 101.Trying to start out in a quick turn (leaning in anticipation of giving it throttle) and stalling it out because the engine hasn't warmed yet - it's a nice, slow drop... 102.Forgetting to put in oil after an oil change. Starting 'er up, and wondering why the low oil pressure dummy light doesn't turn off. 103.After a brake job, forgetting to pump the lever/pedal a few times, and taking off, wondering why there's no brakes as you're coming up on the intersection. 104.Having a mechanical gate close on you as you're trying to ride through. 105.Hitting that patch of sand which has washed across the road ona blind bend. 106.Absentmindedly putting the bike on the kick stand and walking away before you check to see if the driveway is level ... "crunch". 107.Applying your usual amount of throttle but with a passenger behind you ... "cool ... look at that plane". 108.Pushing your bike into the crowded garage, letting it get leaned just a little away from you, pulling you on top of it into your vintage MG. 109.Popping a wheelie while showing off for a girl, almost looping it, slamming on the rear brake to compensate, and passing out from the bollocking several yards later. 110.Assuming the puddle of liquid behind the convenience store was water when it was actually used motor oil. 111.Starting bike while habitually squeezing clutch lever,standing to the left of the bike, remembering too late that the bike is in gear. Realize too late that the choke gives the bike enough power to drag you 30' across the parking lot in first gear... 112.On your third ride with your first ever bike. Stop at a red light. When the light turns green, you have to start uphill, and turn right at the same time. Somehow that overwhelmed me.I was probably "thinking" too much and just dropped it. Did a lot of uphill practicing after that!! 113.Parking on a bit of an incline (slopes down right to left), having your left foot slip a little when getting back on the bike, and slowly loosing your balance.(actually, may not have been slowly, might have been on of those "time slows down" moments) 114.Let your buddy ride it. And if you are really stupid let him ride it again. 115.Turning onto a busy street and in the middle of the turn you suddenly remember that this street has trolley tracks. 116.Put armor all on your tires to make them look nice and pretty and then ride on the white safety lane line as you take a HARD right turn at 35mph. 117.Throw a party and get together with a random girl on your bike in the garage while extremely drunk. *boom* 118.Pull into parking and failed to ensure proper extension of the sidestand....concluding then with near perfect execution of the Laugh-in scene where the bike topples over onto your leg, and your going down, pinned beneath. 119.Stop for gas, carefully shut off ignition and take key out (to unlock tank), carefully remove helmet and set it over mirror, carefully remove gloves and place on instruments, open jacket, step off bike.. forgetting to put sidestand down. 120.With bike off, try to make walking U-turn in driveway. Bike doesn't have necessary turning radius, front wheel leaves pavement and goes into soft dirt. 121.The setting: Bikes at inside end of driveway, on centerstands, facing away from front of driveway. Backing cage into driveway... slowly... at about the right point, stop ... note that cover on bike #1 is moving slightly ... notice bike #1 ever-so-slowly roll forward off its centerstand, then sideways into bike #2. Bike #2 stands there and takes it without falling ... but there's no way to get it to lift #1 122.Tweaking the front brake at a light as you JUST come to a stop with the forks turned to either side at ALL on a top-heavy bike. 123.Jump an old dirt bike over your parents' fence (use a ramp to get enough height). Realize on the way down that you *don't* know how to land. (I believe this was caused by "Adolescent Invincibility Syndrome".) 124.Test-ride an Electra Glide Sport (OK, these days it would have to be a Road King) around the old, cracked pavement in Brisbane near the Cow Palace. 125.Have a BMW with the sidestand linked to the clutch lever, so that pulling in the clutch retracts the stand. 126.Put the bike back together after waiting months since the last crash for a part to arrive, and don't install fuel filters. Gas tank rust clogs carburetor float needles, overflow tubes lube rear tire, brake to avoid manhole cover in curve, the waited-for part is broken. 127.Park next to some twat on a Triumph who leaves his disclock on, and return to find your XV1100 with a few dents and a little note saying 'Sorry' in the brake lever. (I left my phone number too...) 128.While riding home the day after getting your shiny new bike turn onto a dirt road and discover that they are in the process of combing the road and your front tire is now sliding through four inches of loose wet sand (Did I mention it was raining). While picking up your bike be sure to grind plenty of sand into the tank. 129.Round a corner as a very atractive young lady in a mini skirt (minus panties) leans into her car trunk. I almost crashed a freind did in a seperate incident. 130.A loose dog tries to grab your leg while riding on the loose sand in the parking lane. (I was just leaving the girlfriends with her on the back.) 131.Clutch Cable breaking as you are trying to make a slow u-turn around a boulevard. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 11:31:59 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22709 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:31:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:31:19 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:31:19 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:30:02 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: Kill a Biker, Get a Highway Named after You -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline The bastard should've died in jail. Guess the thinking is, "Thank God it was only a filthy biker and not a little kid or old lady or purebred hunting dog." Didn't the widow sue? Not that it would bring her husband back, more to punish the prick--she should own his house. Joe From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 11:35:52 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA22826 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA14269; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:35:52 -0400 Message-Id: <199904291535.LAA14269@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:32:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Changing Roster Info? CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: <85256762.00542CC1.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 29 Apr 99, at 11:04, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > Hi all. > > I need to change my information in the dc-cycles member roster on the > webpage due to my new bike acquisition. Who do I need to talk to? Umm.. that would be me! :-) I'm hideously far behind in updating it, so I have quite a few changes to make. If you are just changing a few fields, just email the changes directly to me, and put "DC CYCLES ROSTER" as the subject. I'll be doing an update this weekend, so this would be a good time for people to email me with changes. Thanks. Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 11:59:44 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (web805.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA23175 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990429160349.24039.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:03:49 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:03:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: New Member Introduction To: coolshane@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: "'Bret's Work'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bret, Welcome! Darn, for once a newbie posted something so well written that I can't even begin to tease you about it. :) Nice intro. Maybe we'll meet sometime on a group ride. Looking forward to it. Dale 98 Concours --- Bret Hopkins wrote: > Good Evening; > > I am a new member to the organization. I will make this as brief as > possible, but I did want to introduce myself so when you start to > receive > questions and answers from me, at least you will have some sense of > who I > am. === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 13:19:25 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24452 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:19:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA26762 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990429172253.24782.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web304.yahoomail.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:22:53 PDT Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:22:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: VFR's can lead? was: Cheap new & leftover VFRs To: Danny Thompson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nothing at all.... The only problem I seemed to have with that cute little Honda thingy i borrowed to race on this past Sunday was that it seemed to have a target painted on it with a sign saying "please hit me" written on it!! lol It *was* kind of boring though.. I mean.. it was comfortable (even with rear sets), it wouldn't go into violent tank slappers at every bump, it wouldn't lift random wheelies coming out of turns, Sheesh... where's the fun in that!! he hehe Collin --- Danny Thompson wrote: > besides Collin, what's wrong with red?.... > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 13:36:32 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24806 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:36:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:36:11 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: targets.. Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:36:03 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Collin, I'm going to have a patch made up for you to sew to the back of those leathers.. in the form of a round target.. cover your whole back..... That way, everyone will KNOW who to aim for, instead of guessing... > From: Collin T. Fagan [mailto:gixer_racer@XXXXXX] > seemed to have a target painted on it with a sign saying "please > hit me" written on it!! lol From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 15:24:44 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA26932 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FAY000GIST071@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:00:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id TAA01092; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:01:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990429190108.HJMK10050@toddnt>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:01:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:58:37 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Kill a Biker, Get a Highway Named after You -Reply In-reply-to: To: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Message-id: <001e01be9272$499e7100$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal > The bastard should've died in jail. > Guess the thinking is, "Thank God it was only a filthy biker and not a > little kid or old lady or purebred hunting dog." > > Didn't the widow sue? Not that it would bring her husband back, more to > punish the prick--she should own his house. > > Joe Agree with the sentiments Joe, but I think the slime-ball died of a heart attack not too long ago. Todd From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 16:46:07 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA28433 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA18175 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:46:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199904292046.QAA18175@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:42:34 -0400 Subject: Saturday AM Ride (starting from Todd's house) Priority: normal In-reply-to: <19990427223417.9659.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Okay, my arm has been thoroughly twisted (ouch, ouch!) and I'll be leading a ride starting from Todd's house on Saturday. Departure time will promptly at 10 am. You all will be getting there early to get the best donuts anyhow! :-) Todd helped me out with the beginning of the route, from his house to The Plains. The roads look cool, and hopefully I won't get us lost! From there we'll head to Middleburg via 626, west on 50 to Rte 17, south to 688 (Leeds Manor Road, one of my personal favorites). >From there we'll head down towards Culpeper, where we'll pick up 729 N to Flint Hill, and then some cool roads out to Front Royal. We can have a late lunch at the Italian place in the Big Lots shopping center (some of you will remember this from last year), and then decide on a route back to the DC area. Those pressed for time can take either 55 or 66 back, others can head north along the Shenandoah and play on 601 and/or 606. Distance from Todd's to Front Royal is about 170 miles, so I expect lunch will be 2:30 or 3:00 pm. There will be other fuel/food stops along the way. I'll make up some route sheets in case some of the faster folks want to ride on ahead. Please feel free to email me if you have any questions. Also, if you have Street Atlas 5 or 6 I can email you a map of the route! Anita PS - I'll be riding down to Springfield from Sterling, if anyone wants to hook up. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 16:51:01 1999 Return-Path: sayatm@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA28542 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (207-172-49-56.s56.tnt14.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.49.56]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA04392 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3728C6D5.7DAB@erols.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:53:41 -0400 From: sayat Reply-To: sayatm@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-KIT (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Moving out of town, selling my brand new bike 98 Yamaha YZF600cc. Team blue color. Excellent condition, never been dropped, always kept in a garage. 2,700 miles Asking $6,500 or Best offer call me if you are interested (202) 686 5473. Sayat Muratoglu. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 17:00:50 1999 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA28711 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from defcon (207-172-53-149.s149.tnt4.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.53.149]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA09342 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:00:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00dd01be9227$1f5693a0$9535accf@defcon> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: References: <4.1.19990429105405.012d8af0@mail.toward.com> Subject: Re: Kill a Biker, Get a Highway Named after You Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:00:32 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: Kill a Biker, Get a Highway Named after You Remember that Tennessee legislator that killed a biker, ran away, got indicted by a grand jury, then died? Tennessee has passed a law to name a highway after him! Chris Norloff As a resident of Tennessee..I find this about average for Southern Politics and vote padding, but it still pisses me off....Tennessee is generally a motorcycle friendly state, but I think that I will write my state rep. and see what is up with this crap. Ofcourse out in East Tennessee where it is quite rural, politicians have a lot of power in their district...you know they bring home the pork and if you want to get reelected you have to honor the bastard that you replaced in order to make nice-nice with all of the voters..sad life, but that is how it is.....Les... From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 17:07:10 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA28810 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:07:08 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id RAA25579; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:08:04 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma025023; Thu, 29 Apr 99 17:07:02 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FAY00MCKYPWYW@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:08:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256762.0073CACC ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:04:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:58:49 -0400 Subject: Any Sunday Rides Planned? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256762.00749DD1.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hi all. The subject line says it all. I'm busy on Saturday working as "pit crew" for my sister's horse show/competition so I won't be able to make that ride. Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 17:48:00 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA29441 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:47:14 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:47:05 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:45:32 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Kill a Biker, Get a Highway Named after You -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline >>> Todd Peer - 4/29/99 2:58 PM >>> > The bastard should've died in jail. > Guess the thinking is, "Thank God it was only a filthy biker and not a > little kid or old lady or purebred hunting dog." > > Didn't the widow sue? Not that it would bring her husband back, more to > punish the prick--she should own his house. > > Joe Agree with the sentiments Joe, but I think the slime-ball died of a heart attack not too long ago. Todd Sure, but he should've had The Big One in jail. Among other things. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 18:37:55 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA00489 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-77-195.s4.as4.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.77.195]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id SAA17160; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:37:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001401be9291$29e5ecc0$c34daccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: Cc: Subject: Re: YSR Racing at Monrovia Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:39:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Steve, The gates open at 7:30, practice starts at 10:00 and the racing should start about 11:30. Hopefully I'll see some fellow DCCyclers. If my back is sore I'll be on my FZR600, if it does I will be in a Black Probe GT. See Ya, Brian N >I will be in that area on Sunday an might have time to check these races >out. Do you know what time the races start? I looked on the web page, but >I didn't see any start times. > >Steve Beck > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 21:05:36 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from gecko.troutman.org (root@XXXXXX [209.122.246.73]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02902 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA10180 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:05:23 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma010178; Thu, 29 Apr 99 21:05:13 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990429210429.0094bf00@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:05:00 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Re: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE In-Reply-To: <3728C6D5.7DAB@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:53 PM 4/29/99 -0400, sayat wrote: >Moving out of town, selling my brand new bike 98 Yamaha YZF600cc. Team >blue color. Excellent condition, never been dropped, always kept in a >garage. 2,700 miles >Asking $6,500 or Best offer This is the same bike you were doing 140 on right? I'm sure it was well cared for....? ______________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org =================================== No sig today..... =================================== DNRC member since '97 From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 21:17:01 1999 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA03076 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:17:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (a0105.chantilly.mns.net [206.239.104.137]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA04319; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:16:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37292FF4.FA2@mnsinc.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:22:12 -0700 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sayat CC: dc-cycles Subject: re: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: sayat > Moving out of town, selling my brand new bike 98 Yamaha YZF600cc. Team > blue color. Excellent condition, never been dropped, always kept in a > garage. 2,700 miles > Asking $6,500 or Best offer > call me if you are interested (202) 686 5473. > Sayat Muratoglu. You can get a brand new one from Coleman's for $6,000. Anyway, yours has bad karma written all over it. Prolly just as well that you'll no longer be a motorcyclist - 130 mph on the B'way? You need more than a good lawyer... (Problem with the gene pool is that there aren't any lifeguards ;) Good luck with your cage dood. I'd move outta Dodge too. JK From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 21:21:46 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA03177 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:21:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-58-219.s28.as8.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.58.219]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA09767 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:22:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000b01be92a8$0d1b3340$db3aaccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Mid-Ohio Race Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:23:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Just ordered my ticket for the Honda Super Cycle Weekend (July 16 - 18, 1999). I was curious if anyone on DCCycle list is thinking about going? I plan on leaving Thurs. 7/15 after work. I've gone to Indy car races at Mid-Ohio and I believe its one of the best spectator tracks around. I got the Super ticket which also includes a paddock pass for the weekend. I can wait to cruise around and check out all the cool bikes. If anyone else is thinking about going maybe we can share expenses such as hotel rooms etc. Feel free to e-mail me diectly. See Ya, Brian N. (Yamaha FZR600) From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 21:23:22 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm02sm.pmm.cw.net (pm02sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.151]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA03198 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr25-dialup49.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.72.49]) by PM02SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35316) with SMTP id <0FAZ00OWNAHWZI@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:22:49 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:22:05 +0000 From: Jon Subject: Re: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <00e601be9286$578d3ee0$31483ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >This is the same bike you were doing 140 on right? I'm sure it was well >cared for....? > Mike Troutman Hey, common, he was just cleaning out the carbon on those new valves..... 8^) Jon From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 21:23:39 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA03207 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:23:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (582) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oBUPa20980; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:16:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:16:46 EDT Subject: Re: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 4/29/99 9:11:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: << >Moving out of town, selling my brand new bike 98 Yamaha YZF600cc. Team >blue color. Excellent condition, never been dropped, always kept in a >garage. 2,700 miles >Asking $6,500 or Best offer This is the same bike you were doing 140 on right? I'm sure it was well cared for....? >> I am just not too sure about all of this, Ciao, fred From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 29 22:21:24 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA04210 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id WAA26517 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:20:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE928E.8046AF80@XXXXXX>; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:20:34 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'dcc'" Subject: EX 500 for sale cheap Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:20:33 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A friend of a friend is selling an EX500. This is what I know: price: "Around a grand," my friend said year: "Around a '94" condition: "Scuffed on one side, but good other than that" I saw a picture of it, and it looked very good. Apparently that was the side without the "scuff." And that is *all* I know about it. If interested, call Dawn at 703-661-0150 Rich ''99 Enfield Bullet (did you see me fiddling with it on the side of the road on 7 in Leesburg tonight?) '78 Triumph Bonneville Sterling From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 01:18:05 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA06567 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:18:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA11797 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.23]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.0) with SMTP id ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:06:22 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:06:33 -0400 Message-ID: <000501be92be$d5610760$1780e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <3728C6D5.7DAB@erols.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal And we know it will do an indicated 130... No thanks. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > -----Original Message----- > From: sayat [mailto:sayatm@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 4:54 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE > > > Moving out of town, selling my brand new bike 98 Yamaha YZF600cc. Team > blue color. Excellent condition, never been dropped, always kept in a > garage. 2,700 miles > Asking $6,500 or Best offer > > call me if you are interested (202) 686 5473. > > Sayat Muratoglu. > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 07:02:53 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA11995 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:02:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA03145 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:02:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Route book Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Check out http://www.extremetwisties.com/ for a route book covering GA-KY-NC-TN-VA-WV. I don't have the book, yet, but it comes highly recommended... Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 08:06:12 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA12826 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA05587 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA00719 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:08:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904301208.IAA00719@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:08:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: EX 500 for sale cheap Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) > A friend of a friend is selling an EX500. > > This is what I know: > > price: "Around a grand," my friend said > year: "Around a '94" > condition: "Scuffed on one side, but good other than that" > Can anyone tell me about this bike? What are its good points and bad points. Could this be turned into a weekend racer? (for an old guy who wants to try it out :) ) TIA Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 08:16:22 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA12942 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id IAA06108 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:16:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990430121625.476.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web303.yahoomail.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:16:25 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:16:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: EX 500 for sale cheap To: Danny Thompson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Can anyone tell me about this bike? What are its good points and > bad points. Could this be turned into a weekend racer? (for an old > guy who wants to try it out :) ) They make great intro racers.... Good points are that they are cheap, easy to ride, parts out the yinyang available for them.. and did I say CHEAP?? Bad points are that they are the worst handling in the lightweight class, a bit heavy compared to others in class, and low on horsepower... BUT, people still do very well on them, and if you want, you can turn them into fire breathing monsters. Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 08:44:09 1999 Return-Path: mullins_john@XXXXXX Received: from mclean-mail.usae.bah.com (mclean-mail.usae.bah.com [156.80.5.109]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA13288 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bah.com ([156.80.170.53]) by mclean-mail.usae.bah.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA5431; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:41:47 -0400 Message-ID: <3729A49E.43AA9CE@bah.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:39:58 -0400 From: "Mullins John" Organization: BAH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Saturday AM Ride (starting from Todd's house) References: <199904292046.QAA18175@radagast.wizard.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anita, Todd, and all, Hi my name is John and I am a newbie to this list and to riding. I'm thirty years old, live in Falls Church and only have about ten months of riding experience. I would love to join your ride tomorrow if you guys don't mind having a rider along with almost no group riding experience. I'd like to gain this experience with a group of somewhat safe riders (as well as, meet all of you) and have some of you more experienced riders critic my riding skills and ways to improve it. So, if you guys wouldn't mind having me along, could someone please repost the directions to Todd's house? (I got a little carried away with the delete key early this week) Thanks, John Anita L. wrote: > > Okay, my arm has been thoroughly twisted (ouch, ouch!) and I'll be > leading a ride starting from Todd's house on Saturday. Departure > time will promptly at 10 am. You all will be getting there early to > get the best donuts anyhow! :-) > > Todd helped me out with the beginning of the route, from his house > to The Plains. The roads look cool, and hopefully I won't get us > lost! From there we'll head to Middleburg via 626, west on 50 to > Rte 17, south to 688 (Leeds Manor Road, one of my personal > favorites). > > From there we'll head down towards Culpeper, where we'll pick up > 729 N to Flint Hill, and then some cool roads out to Front Royal. > We can have a late lunch at the Italian place in the Big Lots > shopping center (some of you will remember this from last year), > and then decide on a route back to the DC area. Those pressed for > time can take either 55 or 66 back, others can head north along > the Shenandoah and play on 601 and/or 606. > > Distance from Todd's to Front Royal is about 170 miles, so I > expect lunch will be 2:30 or 3:00 pm. There will be other fuel/food > stops along the way. I'll make up some route sheets in case some > of the faster folks want to ride on ahead. > > Please feel free to email me if you have any questions. Also, if you > have Street Atlas 5 or 6 I can email you a map of the route! > > Anita > > PS - I'll be riding down to Springfield from Sterling, if anyone wants > to hook up. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 08:59:38 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA13464 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A934136F027A; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:59:32 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990430085745.012c16b0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:00:24 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: M/C trailer for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This showed up in the BMW magazine On The Level. George is the president of the local BMWBMW club. I know nothing about the trailer, so call him not me. Mastertrack motorcycle trailer; holds 3 full size bikes; 2600 lbs. capacity; large wheels & tires. $600. George MD 301-262-7996 (H) 301-858-0666 (W), or gyoungbmw@XXXXXX That seems like a really good price, but that's what the ad says ... Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 09:04:51 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13508 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:04:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA20833 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA21953 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lcsa3 (sterling-internal-217.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FB000CIE6Z92Y@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:06:11 -0400 From: Gary Foreman Subject: Weekend Rides To: Dc-Cycles Message-id: <001a01be930a$3871f120$d929bccc@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Stay out of the Winchester area...it's Apple Blossom Weekend! Traffic will be hell. I know...I live there! ...but if you want to watch a good parade... Gary W. Foreman Email: fj1100@XXXXXX Web: http://www.fj1100.com `·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ A SUPERIOR Pilot may be defined as one who stays out of trouble by using his SUPERIOR judgement to avoid situations which might require the use of his SUPERIOR skills From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 09:37:54 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13980 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com ([209.135.198.107]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id JAA16771 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990430093211.006afd98@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:32:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: It's about time!!!!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There is now bike friendly parking in the parking garage at Bethesda Metro. This is exciting for a few reasons. It's free. Montgomery County spent 26 million dollars to build that parking garage and the gates still say "automobiles only". The new bike parking is on the top level before you go through the gates. I had written a few letters to county council executives because I used to work next door to this parking garage and I was ticked that they spent 26 million to build it and they accomodated every other special parking need: handicapped, two hour, three hour, 20 minute day-care drop off, carpool parking and nine hour spaces but no motorcycle parking anywhere! The added insult was that to park there the cost was just the same for using one half the space. It's not that I feel I deserve special treatment, I just did not like the fear of some cager getting mad that I was using a whole spot and dumping my bike over... On the other hand I felt I deserved the whole spot if I was forced to pay for it. Anyway, I am now content (except for the fact that I no longer work next door..... Lisa Goddard Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 09:37:59 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13983 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA12386 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:38:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199904301338.JAA12386@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:34:23 -0400 Subject: Dumb motorcycle thief... Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Phone Call Retrieves Stolen Motorcycle - (SEAL BEACH) -- A man has gotten his stolen motorcycle back after Seal Beach police left a message on the thief's answering machine. That message: ``We know who you are. Return the motorcycle.'' Police say they used the victim's phone to dial star-69 to identify the man who allegedly stole the bike while posing as a prospective buyer. Officers spotted the suspect, apparently on his way to return the bike and arrested him. [Lesson learned: if you are going to steal a bike advertised in the classifieds, don't call the seller from your home phone! Duh!!!] From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 10:02:25 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14405 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:02:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05983 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:02:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:02:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Switching from clip-ons to tubular bars... Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm seriously thinking about dumping the low clip-ons on my bike and getting some tubular bars. I know I've seen magazine articles on kits to make this change but I can't locate them (these were brit mags...). If anyone has any information on doing something like this I'd like to hear it. Of course, I realize there are higher clip-ons (some of which would be dirt cheap, e.g., Hawk GT bars) but I thought I might do this instead, assuming the cost isn't prohibitive. Thanks! Kirk 98 Honda VTR1000F 84 Honda XR350R 80 Honda CB125S From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 10:09:48 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14532 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A99A7210284; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:09:30 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990430100925.012d2ab0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:09:47 -0400 To: "Lisa S. Goddard" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: It's about time!!!!!! Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990430093211.006afd98@kivex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Nicely done! Chris Norloff At 09:32 AM 4/30/99 , you wrote: >There is now bike friendly parking in the parking garage at Bethesda Metro. > This is exciting for a few reasons. > >It's free. >Montgomery County spent 26 million dollars to build that parking garage and >the gates still say "automobiles only". The new bike parking is on the >top level before you go through the gates. > >I had written a few letters to county council executives because I used to >work next door to this parking garage and I was ticked that they spent 26 >million to build it and they accomodated every other special parking need: >handicapped, two hour, three hour, 20 minute day-care drop off, carpool >parking and nine hour spaces but no motorcycle parking anywhere! The added >insult was that to park there the cost was just the same for using one half >the space. It's not that I feel I deserve special treatment, I just did >not like the fear of some cager getting mad that I was using a whole spot >and dumping my bike over... On the other hand I felt I deserved the whole >spot if I was forced to pay for it. > >Anyway, I am now content (except for the fact that I no longer work next >door..... >Lisa Goddard >Kivex.com > Unlock the power of the Internet! > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 10:18:58 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.UU.NET (relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14672 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:18:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgnen22210 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:17:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256763.004EF8BD ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:22:34 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256763.004EF79C.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:10:05 -0400 Subject: DC Cycles Riders(?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Just wondering if anyone on the list parks in the motorcycle parking along New Hampshire Ave. and M Street, N.W. (not sure of the exact cross-street, but it's on New Hampshire)...(?) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 10:21:56 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14751 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990430142201.17340.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web303.yahoomail.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:22:01 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:22:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Switching from clip-ons to tubular bars... To: Kirk Roy , DC-Cycles Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii www.stick-up.com does all sorts of street fighter conversions... I'm guessing they might have something for you. It sounds as if you would need a new custom made upper triple clamp and that might be spendy... though they may just already have something... CT --- Kirk Roy wrote: > I'm seriously thinking about dumping the low clip-ons on my bike and > getting some tubular bars. I know I've seen magazine articles on kits > to === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 10:55:03 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15233 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:54:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: talk about something that sucks.. Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 06:40:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rc45sn0021/myhomepage/index.html this guy's probably hurting a little.. sheesh (nothing gory I swear). Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 11:01:17 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15362 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id LAA07380; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:01:11 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id LAA15606; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:01:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Looking for 99 VFR owner Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I saw a 99 VFR purchased 5/22 from Manassas Honda parked in a lot on Herndon Pkwy and was wondering if the owner was on the list. If you are contact me. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 11:09:19 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15493 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:09:09 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: EX 500 for sale cheap Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:08:42 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > Bad points are that they are the worst handling in the lightweight > class, a bit heavy compared to others in class, and low on > horsepower... > BUT, people still do very well on them, and if you want, you can turn > them into fire breathing monsters. Que ad for Team Charm and Fast Lane Cycles... ;) Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 11:53:57 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16299 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr31-dialup5.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.73.133]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35317) with SMTP id <0FB0004E4ESMCJ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:53:18 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:52:28 +0000 From: Jon Subject: Re: talk about something that sucks.. To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" Message-id: <005c01be92ff$f1ba8080$85493ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/rc45sn0021/myhomepage/index.html > >this guy's probably hurting a little.. sheesh (nothing gory I swear). > >Brian Yeah, you could say that. What do those go for, about $30k? Ouch.... Jon From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 12:06:28 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA16528 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:06:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37788) with ESMTP id <0FB0001VNE5F32@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:39:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA27388; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:38:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990430153549.QZSB26508@toddnt>; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:35:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:33:48 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: It's about time!!!!!! In-reply-to: <3.0.3.32.19990430093211.006afd98@kivex.com> To: "Lisa S. Goddard" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000d01be931e$d7350270$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Way to go Lisa! Your letters probably helped. Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa S. Goddard [mailto:Lisa@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 9:32 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: It's about time!!!!!! > > > There is now bike friendly parking in the parking garage at > Bethesda Metro. > This is exciting for a few reasons. > > It's free. > Montgomery County spent 26 million dollars to build that parking > garage and > the gates still say "automobiles only". The new bike parking is on the > top level before you go through the gates. > > I had written a few letters to county council executives because I used to > work next door to this parking garage and I was ticked that they spent 26 > million to build it and they accomodated every other special parking need: > handicapped, two hour, three hour, 20 minute day-care drop off, carpool > parking and nine hour spaces but no motorcycle parking anywhere! > The added > insult was that to park there the cost was just the same for > using one half > the space. It's not that I feel I deserve special treatment, I just did > not like the fear of some cager getting mad that I was using a whole spot > and dumping my bike over... On the other hand I felt I deserved the whole > spot if I was forced to pay for it. > > Anyway, I am now content (except for the fact that I no longer work next > door..... > Lisa Goddard > Kivex.com > Unlock the power of the Internet! > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 12:46:56 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA17198 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:46:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" Cc: "'blasalle@XXXXXX'" Subject: Tires fer Cheep Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:46:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Brian posted, " . . . Clinton Cycles re: tires - . . . charge $45/wheel with the wheel on the bike or $25/wheel with the wheel off the bike, regardless of where you buy the tire. I will save around $75 if I order the tires . . .off the internet (including shipping and handling) so I may go that route." Cycles Accessory Discount in Gaithersburg charges $15 off the bike ??Honda in Leesburg charges $15 Call around. Some swear by, others swear at -- changing them yourself. Also, check the local "open houses" for sale prices. I bought my previous two pairs of tires from Cycles USA Spring open house because they had a 20-25% off plus FREE mounting (first time was free ON the bike). Last years prices were so-so and they were uncertain about this years so DK got my business. But-- Cycles USA had Shoei RF 800's for $230-220 and had mailed out $10 off coupons. >From other folks experiences with mail order: Dennis Kirk and Chaparral have the best reputation for reliability (if they don't have it, they'll tell you) MAW generally has the best prices but a poor reputation for reliability Best of two worlds: DK will beat other's prices by a buck. Have the cheap ad handy when you call them. Tell them what you want, cite the magazine and page. They'll add the other guy's shipping charge and delete a buck each. Your tires will arrive in 4-5 days. YMMV but, I doubt it. Carl in Bethesda with a new Shoei, it smells so nice '85 VF700S "Rocin-ahorito" '80 GS450E "Caballoante"; FOM #3, AMA 676120; FOO/FOP; OGM #008; FMOENMC 0002 From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 13:35:33 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA17985 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990430173839.20845.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web304.yahoomail.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:38:39 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:38:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Drill needed To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just got a set of Baker Air Wings for my Concours. I need to drill a few holes in the fairing to set it up. I left the directions at home (doh!) but I'm pretty sure I need a 1/8" and a 3/8" bit. I'm teaching this weekend, but does anyone have a drill and the bits that I can borrow? Actually installation should be relatively quick (assuming I don't screw up royally somehow) so I probably wouldn't need to take the drill, using it at your place would work too. I'll be teaching the MSF class this weekend, but any afternoon/evening after 4 pm Mon - Thurs next week would work for me. If not I'll bring them with me to Connecticut and use my father's tools. Thanks, Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 13:48:19 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (web305.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.187]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18195 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990430175728.1711.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web305.yahoomail.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:57:28 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:57:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Drill needed To: "Louis F. Caplan" , DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Where do you live at Louis?? That may help someone volunteer ;-) If it's convenient for you, I live in Falls Church right near the west falls church metro. You're more than welcome to stop by and borrow my drill or any other tool necessary. Same goes for anyone else... I have front and rear stands available. Lots of tools, a few motorcycle guizmos, and always love to help wrench so long as I have company.... Collin --- "Louis F. Caplan" wrote: > > I just got a set of Baker Air Wings for my Concours. I need to drill > a few > holes in the fairing to set it up. === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 13:59:01 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18428 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:58:18 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Drill needed Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:58:14 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sheesh.. now we're offering out wrenching services? Well, I guess I'll jump on the band-wagon. Here shortly, I too, will have front/rear stands (nothing to accomidate single-sided people), all the tools you could probably need and a fair bit of experience working on all sorts of bikes with all sorts of problems. Woohoo.. I charge more than Collin though.. you've got to feed me (pizza or some-such). So those in the MD area around College Park have local access.. :) Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Collin T. Fagan [mailto:gixer_racer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 1:57 PM > To: Louis F. Caplan; DC-Cycles > Subject: Re: Drill needed > > > Where do you live at Louis?? That may help someone volunteer ;-) > > If it's convenient for you, I live in Falls Church right near the west > falls church metro. You're more than welcome to stop by and borrow my > drill or any other tool necessary. > > Same goes for anyone else... I have front and rear stands available. > Lots of tools, a few motorcycle guizmos, and always love to > help wrench > so long as I have company.... > > Collin > > --- "Louis F. Caplan" wrote: > > > > I just got a set of Baker Air Wings for my Concours. I > need to drill > > a few > > holes in the fairing to set it up. > === > Collin T. Fagan > DC-Cycles Racing > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > Proudly sponsored by: > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > Avon Racing Tyres > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 14:00:21 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18495 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990430180025.21887.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web303.yahoomail.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:00:25 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:00:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: boat shops?? Yes.. it is moto related ;-) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone know a decent boat shop in the area that works on composite hulled boats? Specifically, I'm looking for a source for some fiberglass and resin, so it doesn't have to be a boat shop... just somewhere that I can get some at a decent price... How is this moto related some might ask?? Well... I have some F2 race bodywork that needs some minor/moderate repair, and I have a GSXR that needs significant repair as well.... If i can get the supplies cheap enough, I may even go so far as to make a GSXR mold and a set or two of my own bodywork... Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 14:05:38 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA18584 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:05:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA11069 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:05:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Drill needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > Woohoo.. I charge more than Collin though.. you've got to feed me > (pizza or some-such). So those in the MD area around College Park have > local access.. I'm going to get some replacement clutch and brake lines for the VTR. I'll drop off the bike, lines, and pizza this evening around 7:00pm. Can you have it ready by Monday? :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 14:20:43 1999 Return-Path: knapik@XXXXXX Received: from smtp8.ny.us.ibm.com (smtp8.ny.us.ibm.com [198.133.22.20]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA18827 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:20:40 -0400 (EDT) From: knapik@XXXXXX Received: from southrelay02.raleigh.ibm.com (southrelay02.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.3.209]) by smtp8.ny.us.ibm.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA24864; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:18:35 -0400 Received: from d54mta02.raleigh.ibm.com (d54mta02.raleigh.ibm.com [9.67.228.34]) by southrelay02.raleigh.ibm.com (8.8.8m2/NCO v1.8) with SMTP id OAA06018; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:20:00 -0400 Received: by d54mta02.raleigh.ibm.com(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 85256763.0064B357 ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:19:55 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256763.0064B1F9.00@d54mta02.raleigh.ibm.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:19:50 -0400 Subject: boat shops?? Yes.. it is moto related ;-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Collin, I'd try Read Plastics in Rockville 301-881-7900 Boat US in Rockville or Mattos Paint in Derwood Md Regards, Tom Knapik '83 CX650 E-mail: knapik@XXXXXX Phone: (301) 803-2417, tie-262-2417 >>Does anyone know a decent boat shop in the area that works on composite >>hulled boats? Specifically, I'm looking for a source for some >>fiberglass and resin, so it doesn't have to be a boat shop... just From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 14:27:32 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA18914 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:27:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Drill needed Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:27:22 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Damn, that pizza's gonna get cold sitting out there on the steps while I'm off at Tom and Jeannetts having dinner.. :P Yea, I can do it though - just make sure to bring me some DOT4 brake fluid (I have a bottle, but I'd need it replaced if I used it.. race supplys ya know). If you're serious, I'll ride it over to Collin's house on Sunday when I'm going to work on his EX's with him.. we'll do it there (I like company too when I work).. (pssst, Collin.. wanna wheelie test a VTR next? See how it compairs to the TLS? *chuckle*) > On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > > Woohoo.. I charge more than Collin though.. you've got to feed me > > (pizza or some-such). So those in the MD area around > College Park have > > local access.. > > I'm going to get some replacement clutch and brake lines for > the VTR. I'll > drop off the bike, lines, and pizza this evening around > 7:00pm. Can you > have it ready by Monday? :) > > Kirk > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 14:28:53 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18924 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990430183648.27974.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web307.yahoomail.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:36:48 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:36:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: RE: Drill needed To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hell.. drop it by MY house for the weekend!! I'll save you the cost of the pizza... although the odometer might mysteriously increase over the weekend! lol --- Kirk Roy wrote: > I'm going to get some replacement clutch and brake lines for the VTR. > I'll > drop off the bike, lines, and pizza this evening around 7:00pm. Can > you > have it ready by Monday? :) === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 14:38:32 1999 Return-Path: fnord@XXXXXX Received: from sasami.jurai.net (fnord@XXXXXX [207.153.65.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19113 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from fnord@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA14171; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:38:28 -0400 From: Elie Rosenblum To: "Collin T. Fagan" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: boat shops?? Yes.. it is moto related ;-) Message-ID: <19990430143827.A14143@cosanostra.net> References: <19990430180025.21887.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990430180025.21887.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com>; from Collin T. Fagan on Fri, Apr 30, 1999 at 11:00:25AM -0700 X-Illuminati: Can you see the fnords? X-Cthulhu: HASTUR And thus spake Collin T. Fagan, on Fri, Apr 30, 1999 at 11:00:25AM -0700: > Does anyone know a decent boat shop in the area that works on composite > hulled boats? Specifically, I'm looking for a source for some > fiberglass and resin, so it doesn't have to be a boat shop... just > somewhere that I can get some at a decent price... > > How is this moto related some might ask?? Well... I have some F2 race > bodywork that needs some minor/moderate repair, and I have a GSXR that > needs significant repair as well.... > > If i can get the supplies cheap enough, I may even go so far as to make > a GSXR mold and a set or two of my own bodywork... Weird as it may sound, you can probably find out where to get that stuff by talking to high-end car audio people - they do fiber fab for various expensive equipment installs. -- Elie Rosenblum '83 Datsun PU (beater/hauler) 2.4L I4 http://www.cosanostra.net '75 Volvo 164E (disassembled) 3.0L I6 Admin / Mercenary / System Programmer '74 Honda CB750 (fun) .74L I4 From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 14:51:52 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA19314 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 30 Apr 1999 18:01:34 UT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:51 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Collin T. Fagan" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:boat shops?? Yes.. it is moto related ;-) Message-ID: <19990430145148869-a2e1fbc@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Collin, I know you already got a reply back on the materials thing, but how'd you like to help me fix some of the cracked body work on the VFR? Nothing real major but I don't want to tackle it myself and you said that you were prety good with the stuff. I would really appreciate it! -Tom From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 14:52:53 1999 Return-Path: mark.petty@XXXXXX Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19332 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:52:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:47:10 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: "'cycles'" Subject: Any ride Sunday? Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:47:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Anybody getting together on Sunday? I'm thinking of trying the Manassas route off of Collin's web page. As a rookie, I'll be moving at a fairly moderate pace. My home e-mail is quasi@XXXXXX, as I won't check this account after 5ish today. -Mark '83 V65 Magna From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 15:35:57 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20118 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:35:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:35:13 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:35:08 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:35:45 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Switching from clip-ons to tubular bars... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline First thing to do is talk to Storz and see if they make a kit for your bike. www.storzperf.com. Failing that, find a good machinist, it sure looks do-able to me. Joe (Storz kit on my Ninja since '87) From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 15:39:36 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20140 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:39:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13286 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:39:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: Drill needed In-Reply-To: <19990430183648.27974.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > If you're serious, I'll ride it over to Collin's house on Sunday when > I'm going to work on his EX's with him.. we'll do it there (I like > company too when I work).. On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Collin T. Fagan wrote: > Hell.. drop it by MY house for the weekend!! I'll save you the cost of > the pizza... although the odometer might mysteriously increase over the > weekend! lol You guys are dreaming! I wasn't serious! Just give my sub 2k mile bike to either of you? Craziness! Insanity! :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 16:18:56 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA20734 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:18:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id QAA24053; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:18:45 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id QAA15843; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:18:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Drill needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well gee, since you've just ruined Collin's and Brian's plans for the weekend I supposed I could just drop off the ZR and the 810 kit. What kind of pizzas do you guys like ;). ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Kirk Roy wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > > If you're serious, I'll ride it over to Collin's house on Sunday when > > I'm going to work on his EX's with him.. we'll do it there (I like > > company too when I work).. > On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Collin T. Fagan wrote: > > Hell.. drop it by MY house for the weekend!! I'll save you the cost of > > the pizza... although the odometer might mysteriously increase over the > > weekend! lol > > You guys are dreaming! I wasn't serious! Just give my sub 2k mile bike to > either of you? Craziness! Insanity! :) > > Kirk > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 16:31:44 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from send501.yahoomail.com (web505.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.72]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA20982 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990430203406.24251.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web505.yahoomail.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:34:06 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:34:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Re: Donuts and T-shirts To: Sean Sullivan , djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don't forget! Donuts and juice will be served to all DC listers who show between 9am-10am tomorrow (Saturday) at Todd Peer's motorcycle ranch. Those who ordered t-shirts can pick'em up then. Afterwards you can join a ride led by Anita, you can make your own ride or you can go back and watch cartoons on your couch. Welcome to the list, John. Here are the directions to Todd's in Springfield, Va.: > From Washington DC. > - I395 to I95 south. > - Take Old Keene Mill Road exit (644, west. > - Go approximately 4 miles and turn left onto > Huntsman > Blvd. > - Take the 2nd left onto Houndmaster Road > - Take the 2nd left onto PowderHorn Road > - Take the 4th left onto Gillings Road > - Take the 1st right onto Langport Drive > > 8605 Langport Drive > Springfield, VA > > Todd > 644.2695 > ------------------------------------------------------- See you there! Sean Sullivan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 16:37:10 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21071 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990430203718.17784.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.38.9] by web303.yahoomail.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:37:18 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:37:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: RE: Drill needed To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Kirk Roy wrote: > You guys are dreaming! I wasn't serious! Just give my sub 2k mile > bike to > either of you? Craziness! Insanity! :) he hehe.. we'll be gentle, and the odometer will still be sub 20k... d'oh.. there wasn't a zero after that was there ;-) he hehe === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 16:42:38 1999 Return-Path: dreamer@XXXXXX Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA21191 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brat.knowhere.net (p24.a3.du.radix.net [207.192.130.24]) by mail1.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA27613; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:42:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904302042.QAA27613@mail1.radix.net> X-Sender: dreamer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:39:50 -0400 To: Sean Sullivan From: "Dawn G.T. Gibson" Subject: Re: Donuts and T-shirts Cc: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <19990430203406.24251.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; types="text/plain,text/html"; boundary="=====================_69211614==_.ALT" --=====================_69211614==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sean, Thanks for all your efforts in the DC Cycles T-Shirt department. When is edition number two coming out? Dawn Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX '96 Virago 1100 Special, KnowMad --=====================_69211614==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Sean,

Thanks for all your efforts in the DC Cycles T-Shirt department.  When is edition number two coming out? <ducking>

Dawn
Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX
'96 Virago 1100 Special, KnowMad
 --=====================_69211614==_.ALT-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 16:53:37 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (web801.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.61]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21393 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990430205804.8836.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:58:04 PDT Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: RE: Drill needed To: "Collin T. Fagan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Shameful. Absolutely shameful. Here you are offering your mechanic services and you aren't even gonna bother to disconnect the odometer cable first. :) It's much tougher to hide excess tire wear, I've found. "What, you didn't realize the rear had threads showing when it showed up?" :) Dale --- "Collin T. Fagan" wrote: > Hell.. drop it by MY house for the weekend!! I'll save you the cost > of > the pizza... although the odometer might mysteriously increase over > the > weekend! lol === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 17:26:37 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21857 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:26:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com ([166.37.172.6]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37788) with ESMTP id <0FB0002AHRIZNA@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:28:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id UAA03277; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:24:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990430202818.TXRZ26508@toddnt>; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:28:18 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:26:15 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Saturday AM Ride (starting from Todd's house) In-reply-to: <3729A49E.43AA9CE@bah.com> To: Mullins John , "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <002001be9347$b2555350$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal >From Washington DC. - I395 to I95 south. - Take Old Keene Mill Road exit (644, west. - Go approximately 4 miles and turn left onto Huntsman Blvd. - Take the 2nd left onto Houndmaster Road - Take the 2nd left onto PowderHorn Road - Take the 4th left onto Gillings Road - Take the 1st right onto Langport Drive 8605 Langport Drive Springfield, VA Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Mullins John [mailto:mullins_john@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 8:40 AM > To: Anita L.; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Saturday AM Ride (starting from Todd's house) > > > Anita, Todd, and all, > > Hi my name is John and I am a newbie to this list and to riding. > I'm thirty years old, live in Falls Church and only have about ten > months of riding experience. > I would love to join your ride tomorrow if you guys don't mind having a > rider along with almost no group riding experience. I'd like to gain > this experience with a group of somewhat safe riders (as well as, meet > all of you) and have some of you more experienced riders critic my > riding skills and ways to improve it. > So, if you guys wouldn't mind having me along, could someone please > repost the directions to Todd's house? (I got a little carried away with > the delete key early this week) > > Thanks, > John > > > Anita L. wrote: > > > > Okay, my arm has been thoroughly twisted (ouch, ouch!) and I'll be > > leading a ride starting from Todd's house on Saturday. Departure > > time will promptly at 10 am. You all will be getting there early to > > get the best donuts anyhow! :-) > > > > Todd helped me out with the beginning of the route, from his house > > to The Plains. The roads look cool, and hopefully I won't get us > > lost! From there we'll head to Middleburg via 626, west on 50 to > > Rte 17, south to 688 (Leeds Manor Road, one of my personal > > favorites). > > > > From there we'll head down towards Culpeper, where we'll pick up > > 729 N to Flint Hill, and then some cool roads out to Front Royal. > > We can have a late lunch at the Italian place in the Big Lots > > shopping center (some of you will remember this from last year), > > and then decide on a route back to the DC area. Those pressed for > > time can take either 55 or 66 back, others can head north along > > the Shenandoah and play on 601 and/or 606. > > > > Distance from Todd's to Front Royal is about 170 miles, so I > > expect lunch will be 2:30 or 3:00 pm. There will be other fuel/food > > stops along the way. I'll make up some route sheets in case some > > of the faster folks want to ride on ahead. > > > > Please feel free to email me if you have any questions. Also, if you > > have Street Atlas 5 or 6 I can email you a map of the route! > > > > Anita > > > > PS - I'll be riding down to Springfield from Sterling, if anyone wants > > to hook up. > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 17:48:50 1999 Return-Path: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA22223 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:48:49 -0400 (EDT) From: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from TZimm2450@XXXXXX (14460) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7KBOa25646; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1b7a1d07.245b7ef6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:47:34 EDT Subject: Re: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE To: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Hey, the only way to know what the max is, is to push it. Not a bad price for the bike and it's pretty comfortable. add a micron Exhaust and you'll be trying to push the front end back down. And they are going for 7000 new, not 6000 Trevor 1998 YZF600 I guess He decided to leave the state instead of paying the ticket. I wonder if they kicked him out of the country? From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 18:41:56 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm06sm.pmm.cw.net (pm06sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA22994 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr39-dialup53.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.75.181]) by PM06SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35324) with SMTP id <0FB000IWBXOR20@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:41:20 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:40:35 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <003d01be9338$f1f88400$b54b3ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Hey, the only way to know what the max is, is to push it. Not a bad price >for the bike and it's pretty comfortable. add a micron Exhaust and you'll be >trying to push the front end back down. And they are going for 7000 new, not >6000 >I guess He decided to leave the state instead of paying the ticket. I wonder >if they kicked him out of the country? >Trevor 1998 YZF600 I'd rather push it in the corners and see what I'm made of more than what the bike can do in a straight line. Spend $20 on a smaller front sprocket, it'll reduce your top end speed and increase your acceleration. It'll have more effect than a pipe until you jet it. Besides, what's so fun in getting busted doing 140mph? Pick your places wisely or know how to disappear..... Jon From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 20:33:17 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA24575 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA23102 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-109-175.s48.as3.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.109.175]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA24993 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905010017.UAA24993@smtp3.erols.com> From: "D. Thompson" To: Subject: Fw: There are worse. WAS: Frogs are bad traction aid Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:18:45 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I read this on the VFR list and laughed too hard so I thought I would pass it along. Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 ---------- > From: Blroth@XXXXXX > To: vfr@XXXXXX > Subject: There are worse. WAS: Frogs are bad traction aid > Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 2:02 PM > > While we on the subject of animal stories... > > A friend of mine was on a ride a couple years back. I believe in VA somewhere. > Some of this is pretty fuzzy since he told me this little tale so long ago. > Anyhow, he was 3rd or forth in the group and at one point he rounded a corner > (gezz, imagine riding a bike on a curvy road.) to find his friend in the midst > of > panic stop on the straight after the turn. Back wheel locked, heading for > stoppie land > all that. The guy jumps off of the bike, after frantically getting the kickstand > down. > and is trying like hell to get his helmet off. (Now here is where it gets messy) > But > alas he is not fast enough and ralphs with his helmet on. Well, when my friend > finally got close enough to find out what the heck is going on it hits... The > guy > hit a skunk square on, the front wheel sucked it up and grated it through > the radiator. YUM. The smell was soooo bad that it took the other riders > a while to even be able to get close to him or the bike. Ever smell a dead skunk > after it has sat on a hot highway for a few hours.. Now translate that smell > to instant gratification. Don't forget to up the ante since you always smell it > as you pass at 60mph INSIDE your car. Now fortunately no one was hurt but > the guy apparently ended up having to ride the bike home in all its odorous > glory. Don't forget that there is a helmet law in VA so he had to use his newly > stained helmet too. I guess he borrowed a shirt from someone else, > wrapped it around his nose and mouth and rode home with the visor > cracked a bit. > > Bryan > 86' VF500F > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > The VF/VFR mailing list--see http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~john/vfr-list/ > for subscribe/unsubscribe, policy and archive information. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 21:07:52 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25097 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:07:50 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA25725 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:07:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (14433) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id nMPQa02293; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:04:51 EDT Subject: Re: Fw: There are worse. WAS: Frogs are bad traction aid To: dthompso1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 4/30/1999 8:39:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dthompso1@XXXXXX writes: << Don't forget that there is a helmet law in VA so he had to use his newly > stained helmet too. I guess he borrowed a shirt from someone else, > wrapped it around his nose and mouth and rode home with the visor > cracked a bit. >> ROTFLMAO I believe that that would be my tactic also. I can just smell it now. Both the skunk AND the helmet. 8-0 Scooter From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 21:09:05 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25107 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:08:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37788) with ESMTP id <0FB100BN34HMBX@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sat, 1 May 1999 01:08:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omss5.mcit.com (omss5-fddi.mcit.com [166.37.204.27]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id BAA31666; Sat, 01 May 1999 01:08:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.44.166.222]) by omss5.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990501010815.EXWR3676@[166.44.166.222]>; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:08:15 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:06:20 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE In-reply-to: <003d01be9338$f1f88400$b54b3ea6@0302104396168270> To: Jon Schumer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000601be936e$d307ec30$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal > >Hey, the only way to know what the max is, is to push it. Not a > bad price > >for the bike and it's pretty comfortable. add a micron Exhaust > and you'll > be > >trying to push the front end back down. And they are going for 7000 new, > not > >6000 > >I guess He decided to leave the state instead of paying the ticket. I > wonder > >if they kicked him out of the country? > >Trevor 1998 YZF600 > > I'd rather push it in the corners and see what I'm made of more than what > the bike can do in a straight line. Spend $20 on a smaller front > sprocket, > it'll reduce your top end speed and increase your acceleration. > It'll have > more effect than a pipe until you jet it. Besides, what's so fun > in getting > busted doing 140mph? Pick your places wisely or know how to > disappear..... > > Jon > Well said Jon. And if you need to do a buck 40, take it to the track! Todd From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 30 22:09:14 1999 Return-Path: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA26097 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:09:12 -0400 (EDT) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX (8007) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2RPSa12437 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:08:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <95188e6c.245bbc1a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:08:26 EDT Subject: **SUNDAY, MAY 2 RIDE** To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 SUNDAY, MAY 2 LOCH RAVEN RESERVOIR & GUNPOWDER STATE PARK Captain Scott will taking us through what's referred to as the "7 Sisters." 7 hairpin turns. This should be approx. a 2-3 hour ride and get you home way before the sun goes down and the air cools off. According to the riders I've spoken with, this is a MUST DO RIDE and we'll want to do it many, many, many times. FIRST HOOKUP ANNAPOLIS MALL -- 9:30 AM Scott's coming up from North Beach, so he'll meet you in the parking lot near Applebee's SECOND HOOKUP GREEN SPRING STATION -- 10:45 AM If you don't ride up with Scott and need directions from VA, please email WENDYROCKS@XXXXXX for directions. Any by the way gentlemen, Wendy's one of the women on the singles list! She has a '99 Heritage Softail and a '97 1200 Sporty! We'll break for lunch at a greasy spoon that Wendy says is fantastic -- Life is just too good. Scott will see you at the Mall, and I'll see you at Green Spring Station or my place if you'd like! Ride Safely, la