From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 1 11:19:29 1996 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.0) From: John Nelson Date: Mon, 1 Apr 96 11:17:12 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Looking for a salvage tank for my Honda Nighthawk Cc: steveb@XXXXXX, WeinsteJ@XXXXXX (John Weinstein) Hey everyone, I'm looking for a Salvage yard in the Virginia/Maryland area that will sell me a clean fuel tank from salvage. The exact specs: Honda CB750, Nighthawk, 1995, black as a raven's wing at midnight. This is not the California version. The tank I have is perfectly functional but looks like hell because it was in an accident. I don't want to pay the $400 that even the discount parts places charge, so.... it's salvage. Are there any mailorder parts/salvage places that I should be looking at? I know about Crazy Caton's but they want $400 for a new tank. Thanks all! - John --- John Nelson MCI Metro John.Nelson@XXXXXX SRMS 1.0 Development Team Home: 703-256-6514 Work: 703-918-0132 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 1 13:27:26 1996 From: "James L. Williams" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: AOD: Darkest Hour (our trip to Las Vegas) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:25:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Let's just say it didn't go as planned. I'll write a longer story later = this week. =20 In a nutshell: Army of Darkness arrived in Las Vegas for the first WERA National 6 hour = endurance event. Everything was perfect. We were _very_ fast. While = in 1st or 2nd place (in class, 9th overall out of 27) I took the bike = over at the third hour. It wasn't right. I had to push it real hard to = go a second slower then practice. Then it blew up coming out of turn 9 = onto the front straight. I kept it up and got off the track as soon as = I could and no one fell down. End of story. =20 I think a rod broke. Same thing happened to another team with the same = bike (YZF 600) that morning. We all had fun and all that. More info later. Jim Williams AOD Stress Analysis Engineer From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 1 13:31:43 1996 From: "James L. Williams" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: AOD: YZF 600 Motor; FZR Crank Needed ASAP! Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:29:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I assume you've read the previous message so I won't go into the details. Road Atlanta is coming up fast. We need a YZF Motor and an FZR crank as soon as we can get it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jim Williams From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 2 02:02:48 1996 From: THOMASONCO@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 02:02:16 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: A Hole in the wind shield? I walked into a Honda show room this afternoon just to check out a 1996 ST1100. There it was in all its glory, bright red and not a speck of dust anywhere. In the last 6 months I have seen about 1,000 touring rides, mostly at Bike Week last month in Daytona, but today I noticed two large holes, sort of diamond shaped and trimmed with black rubber in the windshield/faring of the ST1100. How can this be? I thought farings were for air management and keeping the wind off the rider. Can anyone explain why a new ST1100 has this feature. I have never seen this on anything else including a Beemer or a Concourse. Wouldn't this generate extreme wind noise? Dallas (STOC #169) From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 2 07:34:34 1996 Date: Tue, 02 Apr 96 07:40:12 EST From: cnorloff@XXXXXX (Chris Norloff) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Looking for a salvage tank for my Honda Nighthawk _Winding Road Motorcycle Times_ has ads for used parts places. There's also some in the Yellow Pages. Coleman (Falls Church, VA) sells used parts. P&F (Dover, DE) is a great place. There's a place in southern Baltimore, too. Chris Norloff >I'm looking for a Salvage yard in the Virginia/Maryland area that will sell >me a clean fuel tank from salvage. The exact specs: > > Honda CB750, Nighthawk, 1995, black as a raven's wing at midnight. > This is not the California version. From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 2 08:26:21 1996 Date: Tue, 02 Apr 96 08:22:43 EST From: "Daren Magness" To: THOMASONCO@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: A Hole in the wind shield? I am not an expert on the subject, but I have heard that the hole in the windsheild is to prevent "turbulence" (for lack of a better word) caused by larges windsheilds. I heard somewhere that a few years back, some southwestern U.S. police officers were having trouble keeping their bikes on the road because of the turbulence problem. By having holes in the windsheild, wind is allowed to pass through the windsheild and around, thus, not creating the turbulence factor on the great open road. Any techies out there want to really answer this question? Daren ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: A Hole in the wind shield? Author: THOMASONCO@XXXXXX at smtpgate Date: 4/2/96 2:20 AM I walked into a Honda show room this afternoon just to check out a 1996 ST1100. There it was in all its glory, bright red and not a speck of dust anywhere. In the last 6 months I have seen about 1,000 touring rides, mostly at Bike Week last month in Daytona, but today I noticed two large holes, sort of diamond shaped and trimmed with black rubber in the windshield/faring of the ST1100. How can this be? I thought farings were for air management and keeping the wind off the rider. Can anyone explain why a new ST1100 has this feature. I have never seen this on anything else including a Beemer or a Concourse. Wouldn't this generate extreme wind noise? Dallas (STOC #169) From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 2 09:15:29 1996 From: "McLoone, William J." To: DC-Cycles List Subject: RE: A Hole in the wind shield? Date: Tue, 02 Apr 96 09:07:00 EST Encoding: 22 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 > I noticed two large holes, sort of diamond shaped and trimmed > with black rubber in the windshield/faring of the ST1100. >How can this be? I thought farings were for air management and keeping the >wind off the rider. Can anyone explain why a new ST1100 has this feature. >Dallas (STOC #169) It is my belief that the vent wedges on the new ST's is to eliminate the back pressure vacuum effect of the windshield. With most windshields there is a low pressure area left behind the shield when traveling. The air tries to fill in that low pressure area causing all kinds of turbulence and wind noise. The wedge vents are designed to keep a moderate volume of air behind the windscreen to eliminate the fill in effect. From what I hear it works pretty well and is a nice windscreen to ride behind. Bill McLoone '82 Susuki GS-450TXz (SOLD) '81 Yamaha XS-11H (50% mine) Burtonsville, MD USA '82 Kawasaki KZ-750E (all mine) 1-800-AMA-JOIN BK-MD I "Ride with Pride" From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 2 20:26:00 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 20:26:06 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, race-l@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Powder coating in DC area I'm looking for a shop to powdercoat a wheel, preferably in the Washington, DC, area. rich From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 2 20:50:19 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 20:50:12 -0500 X-Sender: dale@XXXXXX (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: hsta@XXXXXX, st1100@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: dale@XXXXXX (Dale Coyner) Subject: ST1100 For Sale Boy this hurts: 1991 ST-1100 for sale. About 33K miles, excellent condition. Garaged. Never down. New Metzeler radials, cover, service manual, short and tall windscreens. $6,000 firm. Contact me via e-mail or during the day at 703.903.5527. I really hate to do this, but you gotta do what you gotta do. :-( Dale ************************************************************************** Ask me about "Motorcycle Journeys Through the Appalachians" -- The Book! 28 day trips thru the eastern US mountains, 320 pp. 60+ photos, US$20 ppd. To order or for info, visit www.his.com/~dale or e-mail to dale@XXXXXX ************************************************************************** From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 2 21:36:40 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 02:36:39 GMT From: leavitt@XXXXXX (Mr. Bill) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, race-l@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Powder coating in DC area Rich (and Leslie) Sturges writes: > I'm looking for a shop to powdercoat a wheel, preferably in the Washington, > DC, area. Please reply to the list(s). I'm also interested in a good powdercoater. I've got a couple frames/swingarms/etc that I'd like to get done this year. Baltimore area is best, but will consider any good shop from DC to Philly. Mr. Bill -- Bill Leavitt leavitt@XXXXXX | "Blow it out your ass, motorcycle man! AMA, ICOA, Lemans, KTC, DoD #0224 | I am THE DEVIL, do you UNDERSTAND?" HON: 82 CBX, 79 CX500C KAW: 72 H2 |________--Frank Zappa, "Titties & Beer" SUZ: 82 GS850G, 76 RE5, 75 RE5, 75 RE5, 73 GT380 "More bikes than brains!" From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 3 07:27:29 1996 Date: Wed, 03 Apr 96 07:33:12 EST From: cnorloff@XXXXXX (Chris Norloff) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's PMMail v1.1 Subject: RE: A Hole in the wind shield? >> I noticed two large holes, sort of diamond shaped and trimmed >> with black rubber in the windshield/faring of the ST1100. > >>How can this be? I thought farings were for air management and keeping the >>wind off the rider. Can anyone explain why a new ST1100 has this feature. > >>Dallas (STOC #169) > >... With most windshields there >is a low pressure area left behind the shield when traveling. The air tries >to fill in that low pressure area causing all kinds of turbulence and wind >noise. The wedge vents are designed to keep a moderate volume of air behind >the windscreen to eliminate the fill in effect. This is the same principle Parabellum and Rifle use on their aftermarket windshields (Parabellum calls theirs "Air Balance"). The Rifle add-on I had was very nice, but I never tried blocking the hole to see what the difference was. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 3 07:38:08 1996 X-Sender: mackinto@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 07:37:58 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: David Mackintosh Subject: New bikes at Battley I had heard there was a new Max Biaggi Edition Aprilia (250 2-storke) at Battley Cycles (Rockville HD) and went to check it out yesterday. Nice machine! The paint isn't the best, but the fabricated from sheet frame and banana swingarm is something to see. Strangely, only one fork leg has a spring preload adjuster, the other has rebound. They also have a Bimota Mantra and yes, it is at least as ugly as the mag pictures, maybe worse. Check out the wood dash. Of course, they still have two Tesis, and more Ducatis, BMWs, Triumphs, and Harleys than you can shake an Ohlins-upside-down-fork-leg-with-Brembo-caliper-mounted at. Too bad no Moto Guzzis, I'd love to swing a leg over the new Sport. I have no connection with Battley's other than as a satisfied drooler. David Mackintosh O- Germantown, MD, USA '82 245 Turbo WVC #M141 mackinto@XXXXXX '89 Honda Hawk GT RC31 DoD #1360 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 3 07:41:50 1996 Date: Wed, 03 Apr 96 07:47:33 EST From: cnorloff@XXXXXX (Chris Norloff) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's PMMail v1.1 Subject: List of Cycle Junkyards I just got this from a guy on the Honda Sport Touring Assoc. list: Chris Norloff Cycle Service 302 322 2453 (Bear, DE) Cycletronics 205 896 4115 (Camp Hill, AL) D & M 219 483 6833 (in Indiana) Dirt Cycles 508 478 5700 (Jefferson, LA) Eagle Systems Cycle Salvage 317 286 1673 (Muncie, IN) EEE Parts 507 374 2222 (Dodge Center, MN) Finish Line 603 228 8745 (Concord, NH) Fremont Cycle Salvage 800 424 5588 (Fremont, CA) Hap Jones 408 432 1918 (San Jose, CA) International 803 755 2300 (West Columbia, SC) JC Motors 714 557 2558 (CA) Jim's Cycle Salvage 800 392-2984 Kawasaki Parts Warehouse 800 448 8611 (Pittsburgh, PA, new parts only) M. A. P. 813 381 1151 (Saint Petersburgh, FL) Mike's Cycle Parts 800 327 7304 (Salem, OR, exchange only) Midway Cycle Salvage 800 232 6686 (Madison, AL) Midwest Action Cycle 800-343-9065 (Good prices, Good service, new Kawasaki parts) Motorcycle Performance 608 238 1195 (Madison, WI) Motorcycle Salvage 800 346 4424 (Hampton, VA) Motorcycle Salvage 615 581-4699 (Morristown, Tn) Nostalgia 605 393 2600 (Rapid City, SD) Norm's 412 462 2225 (in Pennsylvania) North County Motorcycle 800 321 2453 (Escondido, CA) North Edge Cycle 800 428 7821 (Beaumont, TX) Northeast Cycle Salvage 508 458 3310 (MA) Outpost Motorcycle Salvage 314 764-2359 (Rosebud, Mo) People's Motorcycle & Salvage (617) 969-3871 (Newton. MA) P & F Cycle Salvage 302 674 4990 (Dover, DE) Parts Connection 303 536 0406 (Hudson, CO) R & D 614 522 4671 (Heath, OH) Rancho Motorcycle Dismantling 800 494 2925 (Rancho Cordova, CA) Rice Paddy 614 224 1404 (Columbus, OH) Rick's 603 382 5299 (Plaistow, NH) Sam's 800 346 2838 S & K Hawkeye Cycle 319 557-7408 (Dubuque, Ia) Sky 800 345 6115 Sky Cycle 508 345 4647 (MA) Solar Tech 504 340 5351 (Harvey, LA) Someplace Else 608 269-4297 or 608 272-3976 (Sparta,Wi) Starklite 909 780 0421 (Perris Hill, CA, Indians only) Steele's Motorcycle Salvage and Service 303 781 5339 (CO) Steve's 912 386 8666, 800 622 9253 (Tifton, GA) Stocker's Motorcycle Salvage 800 660 2453 (San Diego, CA) Sport Wheels 800 821 5975, 612 492 2715, fax 612 492 3525 (Shakopuu, MN) Sun Cycle 302 368 3626 (Newark, DE, small junkyard) Steele's Motorcycle Salvage 303 781 5339 (Englewood, CO) Tracy's 800 860-0686 (Pittsburg, Pa) Two Wheels 317 787 7142 (Indianapolis, IN, specializes in Dirt Bikes) Western Slope Mcy Salvage 800 254 2453 (Grand Junction, CO) Wisconsin, Cycle Salvage 414 722 6909 (Neenah, WI) BMW Specialists Bent Beemer 503 549 9742 (Sisters, OR) Bent Bike MC Salvage 800 328 8810 Blue Moon Cycle 404 447 6945 (Norcross, GA) BMW Motorrad 800 9991269, 314 531 4010 (MO) Bob's BMW 301 924 5155 (Elkridge, MD) Capital Cycle Corporation 800 642 5100 CC Products 408 559 6602 (CA) Eurotech 800 845 4022 Luftmeister 800 275 2129, 213 408 0411 Perry BMW Exchange 317 564 6338 (Delphi, IN) Re-Psycle BMW Parts 614 837 1160 (Carroll, OH) Recycled Cycles Inc. 208 772 2645 (ID) Salvage & Used Parts 509 926 5044 (WA) San Jose BMW 408 295 0205 (San Jose, CA) Shail's Motorcycles Ltd 604 266 7736 (Vancouver, B.C.) Speed's Cycle 410 379 0106 (Elkridge, MD) From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 3 08:40:16 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 96 08:38:23 EST From: W.Michael.DiTullio@XXXXXX To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Powder coating in DC area Organization: Loral FSC News-Software: UReply 3.1 In a previous message, you wrote: >Message-Id: <199604030236.CAA18022@XXXXXX> >from: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, race-l@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Powder coating in DC area > >Rich (and Leslie) Sturges writes: >> I'm looking for a shop to powdercoat a wheel, preferably in the Washington, >> DC, area. > >Please reply to the list(s). I'm also interested in a good powdercoater. >I've got a couple frames/swingarms/etc that I'd like to get done this year. >Baltimore area is best, but will consider any good shop from DC to Philly. > >Mr. Bill >-- >Bill Leavitt leavitt@XXXXXX | "Blow it out your ass, motorcycle man! >AMA, ICOA, Lemans, KTC, DoD #0224 | I am THE DEVIL, do you UNDERSTAND?" >HON: 82 CBX, 79 CX500C KAW: 72 H2 |________--Frank Zappa, "Titties & Beer" >SUZ: 82 GS850G, 76 RE5, 75 RE5, 75 RE5, 73 GT380 "More bikes than brains!" > Well, in the Philly area there is DMG plating and powder coating. They do nice work and seem resonably priced. A guy here at work has had some harley parts chrome plated and is in the process of getting the wheels powder coated. Nice work, but turn-around time is terrible. I think they told him 6-8 weeks for the powdercoating. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Mike DiTullio |All opinions are my own, and I have | |ditullio@XXXXXX |thousands of them to donate...ask me. | |spazman@XXXXXX |Atlantic City, NJ | |1-800-AMA-JOIN |87 VW-GTI, 89 Hawk-GT, 95 ST1100 STOC# 105 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 3 09:14:33 1996 From: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:14:01 -0500 To: W.Michael.DiTullio@XXXXXX, DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Powder coating in DC area In Manassas I use American Stripping; they are a franchise; have been in biz for awhile; and do lots of bikes. In the phone book. Steve R65 Stop me before I buy a Daytona. From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 3 09:58:11 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:58:07 -0500 (EST) From: Marasco Newton Group X-Sender: mng@XXXXXX To: DC CYCLIST Subject: Aprilia Chesterfield at Battley? In-Reply-To: <9604031238.AA29093@oasys.dt.navy.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 3 Apr 1996, David Mackintosh wrote: > I had heard there was a new Max Biaggi Edition Aprilia (250 2-storke) at > Battley Cycles (Rockville HD) and went to check it out yesterday. Nice > machine! The paint isn't the best, but the fabricated from sheet frame and > banana swingarm is something to see. Strangely, only one fork leg has a > spring preload adjuster, the other has rebound. Whoa, are you serious? Is this for sale to the street-riding public? Can't be. This can only be purchased for track use right? Or is it just for display? What about test rides? Oooooh, I'm all aquiver. Bryndyn email: mng@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." CB-1, RZ350 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 3 10:39:51 1996 X-Sender: mackinto@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 10:39:32 -0400 To: Marasco Newton Group From: David Mackintosh Subject: Re: Aprilia Chesterfield at Battley? Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX At 09:58 AM 4/3/96 -0500, Bryndyn wrote: >> I had heard there was a new Max Biaggi Edition Aprilia (250 2-storke) at >> Battley Cycles (Rockville HD) and went to check it out yesterday. >Whoa, are you serious? Yes. It didn't have the Chesterfield stickers on it, but there may be a sticker kit with it. It is the Max Biaggi replica, though. >Is this for sale to the street-riding public? >Can't be. This can only be purchased for track use right? Or is it just >for display? Well, you can buy it, but registering it is up to you. The sales dude whose desk it's in front of (new sales manager?) said he thought registering it in WVA wouldn't be too hard. >What about test rides? Oooooh, I'm all aquiver. Yeah, right. I didn't even want to ask the price. Probably less than a 916 or any of their Bimotas, though. Neat scooter. David Mackintosh O- Germantown, MD, USA '82 245 Turbo WVC #M141 mackinto@XXXXXX '89 Honda Hawk GT RC31 DoD #1360 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 3 21:38:22 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 96 21:37:15 EST From: Keith McLagan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: unsubscribe unsubscribe sorry i'm leaving maryland so i'm not realy needing to keep up with the list any more.... it was cool hanging out with you guys.... wish i had the 6K to buy that ST1100 to ride back home to Vancouver.... Keith ====================================================== | Keith E. McLagan, AAS | The opinions expressed do not reflect | | CAD & Animation | the Innovative Logic Corporation.. | ====================================================== From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 4 02:34:57 1996 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 02:34:45 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman X-Sender: morris@geni34 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 82 Maxim Master Cylinder In-Reply-To: <9503141342.AA01096@jessica.nswc.navy.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm looking for a good local source of a 1982 Maxim 550 brake master cylinder. I don't want a boneyard part (bias against boneyard brake parts) so I am looking for some net.experience with the local shops and parts special orders. Anyone got a favorite shop for any particuliar reason? I am going to do the install myself, so I am looking for the least expensive part. Thanks for the help! -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, morris@XXXXXX MSB, PFD, WTD, ARL <-- Obviously a Government Employee Yamaha XJ550M [Yorick] (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 4 08:41:24 1996 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 96 7:37:54 EDT X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Cc: From: "Frank George" Subject: re:82 Maxim Master Cylinder ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:Morris Berman I'm looking for a good local source of a 1982 Maxim 550 brake master cylinder. I don't want a boneyard part (bias against boneyard brake parts) so I am looking for some net.experience with the local shops and parts special orders. Anyone got a favorite shop for any particuliar reason? I am going to do the install myself, so I am looking for the least expensive part. Thanks for the help! <> ===================================================================== Two thoughts. 1. I've had good success buying mail order parts. I can recommend MR Cycles (800)359-0567, and Ron Ayers Motorsports (800)888-3084. Both offered me approx. 20% off list price, and delivered in 7-10 business days. Midwest Action Cycle (800)241-2222 offers better discounts (25-35%), but I've heard of people having problems getting the right parts delivered. BTW I own Kawasaki's, so I'm not sure if any of these places carry Yamaha parts. 2. Have you thought about having your existing master cylinder rebuilt? IMHO, I wouldn't recommend doing the work yourself, but take it to a qualified shop. That should cost less than a new one, yet its not a risky venture like buying a boneyard part. Frank George fegeorge@XXXXXX fgeorge@XXXXXX Reynolds Metals Company / Corporate Engineering "opinions are mine, ... mailbox is the company's" From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 4 20:13:07 1996 Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 20:10:22 -0500 From: Warren Weiss Subject: Shipping Bikes To: DC Cycles Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT OK, Here's a topic that's been visited before, I'm sure, but does anyone have information on shipping bikes cross-country? A friend of mine and I are planning a trip out West in early June. Time is sorta limited, plus we don't want to bore ourselves to death crossing the Great Plains states. The plan is to ship the bikes (or travel with them if we can) to say Colorado, remount them there, ride around and see all that there is to see, and then probably ship them back when we are done. Any suggestions? TIA!! -- ************************************************************************ Warren W. Weiss VMI '87 wweiss@XXXXXX AMA # 409056 weiss@XXXXXX Hughes Information Technology Company Ride: '85 VF700F Interceptor Upper Marlboro, MD Deus Ex Machina Think For Yourself and Question Authority Anonymous ************************************************************************ From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 5 06:53:07 1996 Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 06:49:22 -0700 From: lucas.m@XXXXXX (Mark Lucas) Organization: National Multimedia Association of America X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Weiss CC: DC Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Shipping Bikes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You're an AMA member, so you should already know about their arrangement for uncrated motorcycle transport. Call Fed Co. at 800/747-4100 ext 214 or D&D Services at 800/282-0507 Good Luck and keep that rubber down! -- ====================================================================== \ Peace, + lucas.m@XXXXXX / / Mark J. Lucas + http://www.nmaa.org/member/lucas/index.htm \ ===================================================================== From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 5 08:51:26 1996 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 08:51:32 EST From: acoope00@XXXXXX (Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington ) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: The Great Plains Comment: Do not underestimate the beauty and wonder that are available through the Great Plains. Having completed two across the country rides, I found some fascinating stuff out there. Good luck and enjoy! =Drew Cooper ---------------------- FORWARDED MESSAGE ---------------------- >From: Warren Weiss Internet OK, Here's a topic that's been visited before, I'm sure, but does anyone have information on shipping bikes cross-country? A friend of mine and I are planning a trip out West in early June. Time is sorta limited, plus we don't want to bore ourselves to death crossing the Great Plains states. The plan is to ship the bikes (or travel with them if we can) to say Colorado, remount them there, ride around and see all that there is to see, and then probably ship them back when we are done. Any suggestions? TIA!! -- ****************************************************************** ****** Warren W. Weiss VMI '87 wweiss@XXXXXX AMA # 409056 weiss@XXXXXX Hughes Information Technology Company Ride: '85 VF700F Interceptor Upper Marlboro, MD Deus Ex Machina Think For Yourself and Question Authority Anonymous ******************************************************** **************** ************************************************************ Senders Internet Address dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX ************************************************************ *=========== END ==========* From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 5 09:56:24 1996 From: sanjay@XXXXXX Subject: Re: The Great Plains To: acoope00@XXXXXX (Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:56:07 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <9604051351.AA08481@ad0.reach.com> from "Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington" at Apr 5, 96 08:51:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn3.1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Comment: Do not underestimate the beauty and wonder that are > available through the Great Plains. Having completed two across > the country rides, I found some fascinating stuff out there. > > Good luck and enjoy! > > =Drew Cooper [snip] cultural question from newbie riding one coast to other and then back to starting point is considered one cross country ride or two cross country rides? curious ride safe, sanjay p.s. picking up tommorow a shadow 700 with 16 k miles in poseur condition. back to riding after 2 years. vacumned the baking powder out of the helmet, cleaned the visor, waxed the leathers last night. can you say excited... From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 5 11:52:45 1996 From: Dark Hacker Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:52:23 -0500 (EST) To: acoope00@XXXXXX, sanjay@XXXXXX Subject: Re: The Great Plains Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Riding cross country and back should be considered two cross-country rides since once you're on the other coast you're in the same position as someone on that coast preparing to take a cross-country ride. A little A Priori logic there. - Hacker From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 5 13:35:34 1996 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 13:35:34 EST From: acoope00@XXXXXX (Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington ) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Oh no! Controversy! Not to make a federal case out of this, but I would say that I have done TWO across-the-country rides, even though each was a round trip from coast to coast. I've also done two cross- country trips -- a five-week tour (mostly) east of the Mississippi and a foray into Newfoundland and Labrador. And, of course, I would never ride without my balalaika... balaclava... baklava... whatever. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 5 16:00:00 1996 Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 15:57:57 -0500 From: Warren Weiss Subject: Re: The Great Plains In-Reply-To: acoope00@counsel.com (Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington ) "The Great Plains" (Apr 5, 8:51am) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > Comment: Do not underestimate the beauty and wonder that are > available through the Great Plains. Having completed two across > the country rides, I found some fascinating stuff out there. I agree! I can think of a lot of places between here and there that I would like to see, but my buddy has made the cross-country trek a few times and for some reason isn't too enthusiastic about doing it again. One day, I am going to take three weeks, some really big saddlebags and tankbag, and my road atlas and do the trip coast-to-coast. Who wants to come along? -- ************************************************************************ Warren W. Weiss VMI '87 wweiss@XXXXXX AMA # 409056 weiss@XXXXXX Hughes Information Technology Company Ride: '85 VF700F Interceptor Upper Marlboro, MD Deus Ex Machina Think For Yourself and Question Authority Anonymous ************************************************************************ From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 5 17:59:59 1996 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 18:00:06 EST From: acoope00@XXXXXX (Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington ) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Three weeks Hey, you don't need three weeks to make it coast-to-coast; I made it in two. That's a lot of riding and not much sightseeing; but, after all, I do have my priorities. ;) From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 6 18:54:45 1996 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 15:51:25 -0800 X-Sender: nranone2@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: nranone2@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) Subject: Shops open on Sundays? Are there any shops in the area open on Sundays? Nick From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 7 03:35:00 1996 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 03:34:35 -0400 (EDT) From: my own worst nightmare To: Nick Ranone cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Shops open on Sundays? In-Reply-To: <199604062351.PAA13529@dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 6 Apr 1996, Nick Ranone wrote: > Are there any shops in the area open on Sundays? only one that i know of, and that's mine honda east yamaha bear, de (45 min from baltimore) if anyone wants to know more, let me know. seth From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 7 23:03:52 1996 Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 23:01:53 -0400 From: Warren Weiss Subject: IronButt... Was: Three weeks In-Reply-To: acoope00@counsel.com (Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington ) "Three weeks" (Apr 5, 6:00pm) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > Hey, you don't need three weeks to make it coast-to-coast; No, I guess you don't need three weeks to do that kind of mileage. A FOAF recently completed the IronButt Rally and placed 17th out of 34 or 35 riders. I am not sure of the details, but I guess the object of the game is to do 10,000 miles in 7 days or something like that. He rode 16 hours per day, slept 4 hours per day, and allowed 4 hours per day for maintenance and other necessary stops. I think he did the run on a '69 Triumph...just kidding! :) Seriously, it was a late-model Gold Wing. He mostly ate and drank while on the go and needed a lot of caffeine to give himself a boost. Man, talk about hardcore... -- ************************************************************************ Warren W. Weiss VMI '87 wweiss@XXXXXX AMA # 409056 weiss@XXXXXX Hughes Information Technology Company Ride: '85 VF700F Interceptor Upper Marlboro, MD Deus Ex Machina Think For Yourself and Question Authority Anonymous ************************************************************************ From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 8 15:33:23 1996 Date: Mon, 08 Apr 96 14:39:14 EDT From: cnorloff@XXXXXX (Chris Norloff) To: hsta@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Nat'l Transport Library Has stuff about motorcycles -- mostly High Occupancy Vehicle land usage and related subjects. FYI. http://www.bts.gov/ Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 9 10:51:59 1996 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:51:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Marasco Newton Group X-Sender: mng@XXXXXX To: DC CYCLIST Subject: Racing this weekend MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I believe there will be WERA racing this weekend at Summit Point, although I'm not sure if it will be on SNOWMOBILES or motorcycles. I'm interested in going up on Sunday if the weather is decent. Anybody else going? Any racers out there we should drop by to say hi to? Bryndyn email: mng@XXXXXX "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." CB-1, RZ350 From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 9 12:57:18 1996 From: "Osidach, Vera Z." To: "'dc cycles - all'" Subject: RE: Racing this weekend Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 12:56:00 EST Encoding: 8 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Bryndyn >email: mng@XXXXXX< writes: I believe there will be WERA racing this weekend at Summit Point, Yup, WERA Sprints Saturday & Sunday. I'll be there at least one of those days -- cornerworking or hanging out in the Team Charm pit. For more info, or directions to the track, search out the MARRC homepage. Ride safe and see ya there, maybe! -Vo (Vera Osidach) From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 9 13:43:53 1996 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:40:00 -0400 From: "Goddard, Jay" Subject: RE: racing this weekend To: DC Cycles X-Mailer: Worldtalk(NetConnex V3.50c)/stream I will be corner working this weekend (first time) with my wife to be. We are looking for some body to hang out with Saturday night. We will either be on a burg/black/silver ZX9R and a burg/white EX500 with Casper the ghost on the back. Or a red Nissan NX2000 if the weather is bad. Leave us a note or stop by and say "HI". Jay Goddard 94 ZX9R 91 EX500 (for sale) From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 10 07:39:26 1996 From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Date: 10 Apr 96 19:41:00 -0400 To: "'DC Cycles'" Cc: "'Mike Rowland'" Original-From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Original-To: "'DC Cycles'" Original-Cc: "'Mike Rowland'" Subject: FW: racing this weekend Original-Date: Wed Apr 10 19:41 EDT 1996 Encoding: 23 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Content-Type: text >Subject: RE: racing this weekend >I will be corner working this weekend (first time) with my wife to be. We >are looking for some body to hang out with Saturday night. We will either >be on a burg/black/silver ZX9R and a burg/white EX500 with Casper the ghost >on the back. Or a red Nissan NX2000 if the weather is bad. Leave us a note >or stop by and say "HI". Hi Jay, try hooking up with Mike and Mary Rowland from Frederick, Maryland. They have been corning working for a few years now and love to meet new race fans. Email him at rowlandm@XXXXXX or just introduce yourself at the track. They're great people. Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC AMA #609423 // klhawkins@XXXXXX '95 900CR (Desmo) // '93 GTS1000 (RADD Boy) From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 10 08:01:26 1996 X-Sender: rowlandm@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 08:01:12 -0500 To: "'DC Cycles'" From: rowlandm@XXXXXX (Mike Rowland) Subject: racing this weekend Cc: mary@XXXXXX >>Subject: RE: racing this weekend >> I will be corner working this weekend (first time) with my wife to be. >> We are looking for some body to hang out with Saturday night. We will >> either be on a burg/black/silver ZX9R and a burg/white EX500 with Casper >> the ghost on the back. Or a red Nissan NX2000 if the weather is bad. >> Leave us a note or stop by and say "HI". >Hi Jay, try hooking up with Mike and Mary Rowland from Frederick, > Maryland. They have been corning working for a few years now and love to > meet new race fans. Email him at rowlandm@XXXXXX or just introduce > yourself at the track. They're great people. > Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC Hello Jay, My SO, Mary, and I will also be out at the "Point" corner working this weekend. As Kevin stated abovew. We will either be on a Ducati 900SS/CR and a BMW R850R, or in our Green pickup truck with the license "WEPIKUP". Welcome to corner working and we look forward to meeting you this weekend. Mike Frederick, MD [ rowlandm@XXXXXX ] ---------------------------------------- | -->> '92 Seca II - For Sale <<-- | | '95 900SS/CR | HSTA / HSTA | | '91 ST1100 | AMA / STOC13 | | '96 R850R | MARRC Safety Crew | ---------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 10 20:09:30 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:09:38 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges (by way of Rich and Leslie Sturges ) Subject: Racing at Summit pt Ready or not, the first race at Summit Point is this weekend. It is a WERA event and entry fee should be $15, camping included. Be sure to look us up at the Team Charm Pits, white and pink EX500 with a few EX500 parts still on it. I will NOT mention that the weather report is currently favorable. Vague directions follow: take rt 7 west around leesburg; cross shenenenendoahhha river; turn right on rt 340 north; take first left on 611 or 612; at stop sign turn left on summit point rd; turn left into track; pays your money and enjoy. rich From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 10 22:17:58 1996 From: THOMASONCO@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 22:17:19 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Erols Connection Does anyone have an opinion on the web services from Erols here in the DC area. I'm looking for a backup provider to aol. Tia Dallas Thomason From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 10 23:13:26 1996 X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 23:11:26 -0400 To: rowlandm@XXXXXX (Mike Rowland), "'DC Cycles'" From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: racing this weekend Cc: mary@XXXXXX At 08:01 AM 4/10/96 -0500, Mike Rowland wrote: > My SO, Mary, and I will also be out at the "Point" corner working this >weekend. As Kevin stated abovew. We will either be on a Ducati 900SS/CR and >a BMW R850R, or in our Green pickup truck with the license "WEPIKUP". I understand Kevin is bringing some extra 900SS/CR fuel mixture screws...:-) Stephen Harris Stephen Taylor Harris http://www.his.com/~harris/index.htm From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 06:35:09 1996 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 03:32:28 -0700 X-Sender: nranone2@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: nranone2@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) Subject: Re: Erols Connection >Does anyone have an opinion on the web services from Erols here in the DC >area. I'm looking for a backup provider to aol. > >Tia > >Dallas Thomason > I use Netcom. They have two local numbers I can call, Woodbridge an Vienna, and they are only $20 a month for unlimited access. Their only downfall is that you must pay by credit card. Nick Ranone 82 Yamaha Vision 75 HD SS250 (Piglet) From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 08:28:47 1996 From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Date: 11 Apr 96 07:29:00 -0400 To: "DC-Cycles" Original-From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Original-To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: racing this weekend Original-Date: Thu Apr 11 07:29 EDT 1996 Encoding: 16 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Content-Type: text > My SO, Mary, and I will also be out at the "Point" corner working this >weekend. As Kevin stated abovew. We will either be on a Ducati 900SS/CR and >a BMW R850R, or in our Green pickup truck with the license "WEPIKUP". > I understand Kevin is bringing some extra 900SS/CR fuel mixture >screws...:-) DHOOOO!!!!!! I'll never live it down.......Good luck this weekend Steve and Rich. I'll see you guys at Road Atlanta! Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC AMA #609423 // klhawkins@XXXXXX '95 900CR (Desmo) // '93 GTS1000 (RADD Boy) From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 09:37:14 1996 Subject: Brake Noise, finally fixed From: crose@XXXXXX (Caron Rose) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 11 Apr 96 09:37:10 -0400 X-Mailer: MAILworks 1.7-A-1 Well - for those of you who remember my plea for help last fall about my brake noise problem, I think it is finally fixed. For those of you who don't remember - my brakes were making a loud humming type noise when I applied them. It sounded like a tractor trailor coming to a stop. First we did the new brake pads. That didn't work. Then we tried sanding the disk. That didn't work. Then we tried new brake pads AND blasting the disk with glass beads. I guess it's kinda like sand blasting. Well - no more noise. I am seeding the brake pads, just as they said. And so far, I haven't had the noise. I've gone nearly 100 miles since they did this, and so far so good. When they replaced the pads and sanded the disk, it only lasted about 5 miles. Wish me luck! Caron Rebel 450, CANDY8 Yes I'm short - Short and Sassy! From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 09:52:31 1996 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.0) From: John Nelson Date: Thu, 11 Apr 96 08:57:12 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: DC Area List Of Events I'd like to start maintaining a list of upcoming events on the Captial Area Motorheads home page. This would include mostly local area events but could include national events like Sturgis and Americaide. Is there already a national or local DC list? If not, can anyone send me a list of local events. These might include MARRC, swap meets, poker runs, club rides, open houses, etc. If you know of one send it to this address (John.Nelson@XXXXXX) and I'll put it on the home page! - John --- John T. Nelson MCI Metro John.Nelson@XXXXXX (NeXT mail preferred) SRMS 1.0 Development Team http://www.computation.com/pub/hacker/CAMS/ (703) 918-6073 "Chopper Chicks In Zombie Town!" From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 11:40:18 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 11 Apr 96 11:02:07 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Brake Noise, finally fixed Congratulations Caron, I have a few question though, just out of curiosity, is your rotor solid or drilled, and what material? What was the objective of bead blasting the disks? Also you refer to "seeding" the brake pads. I've never heard of that before. What did you mean by this? The reason for the questions is that I recently read that brake noise can occur when the brake dust gets trapped between the rotor and the pad. Drilled rotors, in addition to their cooling attributes, let the dust escape, whereas solid rotor don't. Also a lot, if not all, of the solid rotors I have seen do not have a completely flat surface, but instead small concentric grooves. Perhaps the grooves help to reduce the noise by providing a place for the dust to go. Although I would think that after a while the pad surface would just become the negative image of the rotor surface and nullify that effect. The grooves also increase surface area which is a good thing. Anybody out there have the true story. Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX <---new address "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." <---old sig. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Brake Noise, finally fixed Author: crose@XXXXXX (Caron Rose) at MNGNET Date: 4/11/96 9:37 AM Well - for those of you who remember my plea for help last fall about my brake noise problem, I think it is finally fixed. For those of you who don't remember - my brakes were making a loud humming type noise when I applied them. It sounded like a tractor trailor coming to a stop. First we did the new brake pads. That didn't work. Then we tried sanding the disk. That didn't work. Then we tried new brake pads AND blasting the disk with glass beads. I guess it's kinda like sand blasting. Well - no more noise. I am seeding the brake pads, just as they said. And so far, I haven't had the noise. I've gone nearly 100 miles since they did this, and so far so good. When they replaced the pads and sanded the disk, it only lasted about 5 miles. Wish me luck! Caron Rebel 450, CANDY8 Yes I'm short - Short and Sassy! From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 12:01:01 1996 Subject: Re: Brake Noise, finally fixed From: crose@XXXXXX (Caron Rose) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 11 Apr 96 12:00:57 -0400 X-Mailer: MAILworks 1.7-A-1 Bryndyn writes; > >Congratulations Caron, Thanks! >I have a few question though, just out of curiosity, is your rotor solid or >drilled, and what material? What was the objective of bead blasting the >disks? Also you refer to "seeding" the brake pads. I've never heard of >that before. What did you mean by this? Rotor - I don't know if I my rotor is solid or drilled. I don't know the material, either. btw - is the 'rotor' the same as the 'disk'? - sorry if that is a bonehead question, but I have an excuse; I'm a girl! The objective of bead blasting the disk (singular) was to remove any glazing. They tried sanding it, but that didn't do it. Seeding - - I may not have the correct term, there, but what I was told by the mechanic was, use a light hand on the brakes for a few days to allow the pads to conform to the surface of the disk. He said that with new pads, it's best to not let them get too hot(hard) until they have been given a chance to adjust to the disk surface. I have noticed one thing. When I left there, the disk had a dull surface, and gradually, the surface has come to look pretty much like it did before (kinda shiny), but without the noise. >The reason for the questions is that I recently read that brake noise can >occur when the brake dust gets trapped between the rotor and the pad. >Drilled rotors, in addition to their cooling attributes, let the dust >escape, whereas solid rotor don't. Also a lot, if not all, of the solid >rotors I have seen do not have a completely flat surface, but instead small >concentric grooves. Perhaps the grooves help to reduce the noise by >providing a place for the dust to go. Although I would think that after a >while the pad surface would just become the negative image of the rotor >surface and nullify that effect. The grooves also increase surface area >which is a good thing. Anybody out there have the true story. There are fine grooves on the disk. They were there before, and they are still there. I assume that's normal. > From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 12:02:27 1996 From: Jeff Poretsky Subject: Re: Brake Noise, finally fixed To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:02:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have a few question though, just out of curiosity, is your rotor solid or > drilled, and what material? What was the objective of bead blasting the > disks? Also you refer to "seeding" the brake pads. I've never heard of > that before. What did you mean by this? I'll bet the word being looked for here is SEATING > rotors I have seen do not have a completely flat surface, but instead small > concentric grooves. Perhaps the grooves help to reduce the noise by > providing a place for the dust to go. Although I would think that after a > while the pad surface would just become the negative image of the rotor > surface and nullify that effect. The grooves also increase surface area > which is a good thing. Anybody out there have the true story. > I've seen rotors with radial grooves, which would prevent the kind of imaging you're thinking of, in addition to using centripital force to force the dust off the rotors. JeffP From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 12:09:23 1996 Subject: Re: Brake Noise, finally fixed From: crose@XXXXXX (Caron Rose) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 11 Apr 96 12:09:04 -0400 X-Mailer: MAILworks 1.7-A-1 >I'll bet the word being looked for here is SEATING That might be it.. sorry for the goof... >I've seen rotors with radial grooves, which would prevent the kind of >imaging you're thinking of, in addition to using centripital force >to force the dust off the rotors. > >JeffP Also, one thing that they told me today, was, that when the examined the pads, there were some strange grooves on the surface, as if whatever tool that the manufacturer had used to grind the surface, 'left it's mark' - so to speak. Whatever happened - the manufacturer warranteed the pads, and the shop warranteed the work, so for the bead blasting and pad change, I paid nothing. That was really nice. It made my oil change a lot more affordable! No - I don't change my own oil - icky, slimey, nasty stuff. Now *Breaddough*, THAT's fun to get yer hands into! But that's another mailing list... Caron From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 12:16:26 1996 From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Suggestions for second helmets? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:16:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Now that I have about a year's experience on my motorcycle, some of my friends want me to take them for a ride. Of course they'll need to be wearing a helmet. There are several sales this weekend, so I'll be keeping an eye out for helmets. Are their any good "general sizes"? Most of the people who want to ride with me are women, but one or two guys want to go too. I only want to get one more helmet, not one for every head! Are there any tricks, or compromises that people have worked out that help? Any suggestion (short of resizing my friends' heads) welcome. Thanks, Louis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Caplan | louis@XXXXXX Alexandria, VA | '84 Honda Nighthawk-S 700SC DoD #1754 | No fancy quotations, yet!!! From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 13:01:58 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:01:44 -0400 To: "Louis F. Caplan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) From: sash@XXXXXX (Michael A. Dow) Subject: Re: Suggestions for second helmets? At 12:16 4/11/96, Louis F. Caplan wrote: >wearing a helmet. There are several sales this weekend, so I'll be >keeping an eye out for helmets. Are their any good "general sizes"? Where are the sales? I am also in need of a new helmet, and have been waiting for a sale to check them out. Is Cycles USA among the shops having a sale? Thanks, Sash. ___________________________________________________________________ Michael A. "Sash" Dow AMA# 403971 | HRCA Member | DoD# 1808 | Ask me about the CAMS! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Present: '94 Honda VF750C Magna Past: '92 Honda CB250M Nighthawk '87 Honda Elite 150 Scooter ___________________________________________________________________ "Love is a matter of chemistry; sex is a matter of physics." From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 13:05:10 1996 From: sanjay@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Suggestions for second helmets? To: louis@XXXXXX (Louis F. Caplan) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199604111616.MAA23281@clark.net> from "Louis F. Caplan" at Apr 11, 96 12:16:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn3.1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Now that I have about a year's experience on my motorcycle, some of my > friends want me to take them for a ride. Of course they'll need to be > wearing a helmet. There are several sales this weekend, so I'll be > keeping an eye out for helmets. Are their any good "general sizes"? > Most of the people who want to ride with me are women, but one or two > guys want to go too. I only want to get one more helmet, not one for every > head! > > Are there any tricks, or compromises that people have worked out that help? > Any suggestion (short of resizing my friends' heads) welcome. > most helmet manufacturers use different sizes. ES, S, M, L, XL, XXL are some of the sizes i've seen. some mail order palces like chapparal lists how to convert your hat size to the relevant helmet size of a particular helmet maker. that list, my personal and rec.moto expereince reveals that there is no industry standard for helmet sizes. may be there is one, but it does not work. you have to keep trying on every thing till one fits. if the purchaser has never worn a helmet (rollerblading helmets don't count), tell them that a new helmet would fit a little tight the first few days. after a few days of use, the inside of the helmet settles in and one gets a snug fit. ofcourse, you can always do what malcolm forbes did (no, not the wimp you heard about last month, his pappy), get a custom made helmet. sanjay From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 13:51:43 1996 From: ChrisHMann@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:51:10 -0400 To: louis@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Suggestions for second helmets? well...first of all i'm new to this list...so i want to say hi....so here it goes "HI"....currently i ride a 82 yamaha seca 550... and i'm also looking into a 82 yamaha vision 550 for my SO... who's taking the MSF course this weekend....but back to the topic of helmets.... i wear a Shoei RF200....which is a large....and it fits most of my friends just fine....except for some...they can't even get it onto their heads....but i got a HJC F-10 (i think that's the number) in a large....and it fits my friends with the bigger heads.... so i'd say you need to compare not only different sizes...but also different brands....it seems like the HJC fits a bit differently...this may be because it doesn't come down as far on the head....and therefore has a slightly wider opening....the best bet is to let some of your friends try on your helmet...and see where to go from there chris From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 16:02:58 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 11 Apr 96 14:50:12 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Subject: Area Moto Sales ...Cycles USA; starting tomorrow and lasting the weekend. Speaking of helmets, they are raffling-off a Shoei RF-200. Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX <---new address "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." <---old sig. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Suggestions for second helmets? Author: sash@XXXXXX (Michael A. Dow) at MNGNET Date: 4/11/96 1:34 PM At 12:16 4/11/96, Louis F. Caplan wrote: >wearing a helmet. There are several sales this weekend, so I'll be >keeping an eye out for helmets. Are their any good "general sizes"? Where are the sales? I am also in need of a new helmet, and have been waiting for a sale to check them out. Is Cycles USA among the shops having a sale? Thanks, Sash. ___________________________________________________________________ Michael A. "Sash" Dow AMA# 403971 | HRCA Member | DoD# 1808 | Ask me about the CAMS! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Present: '94 Honda VF750C Magna Past: '92 Honda CB250M Nighthawk '87 Honda Elite 150 Scooter ___________________________________________________________________ "Love is a matter of chemistry; sex is a matter of physics." From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 16:27:04 1996 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:25:00 -0400 From: Warren Weiss Subject: Re: Area Moto Sales In-Reply-To: BWEINER@marasconewton.com "Area Moto Sales" (Apr 11, 2:50pm) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > ...Cycles USA; starting tomorrow and lasting the weekend. > Speaking of helmets, > they are raffling-off a Shoei RF-200. I saw the signs when I was there this past weekend. I got a GREAT deal on a pair of Hein Gericke Stealth pants: $290. the best price I have ever seen on em. -- ************************************************************************ Warren W. Weiss VMI '87 wweiss@XXXXXX AMA # 409056 weiss@XXXXXX Hughes Information Technology Company Ride: '85 VF700F Interceptor Upper Marlboro, MD Deus Ex Machina Think For Yourself and Question Authority Anonymous ************************************************************************ From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 16:58:47 1996 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:58:42 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: richwest@XXXXXX (Rich Westbrook) Subject: MSF Course >well...first of all i'm new to this list...so i want to say hi....so here it >goes "HI"....currently i ride a 82 yamaha seca 550... and i'm also looking >into a 82 yamaha vision 550 for my SO... who's taking the MSF course this >weekend....but back to the topic of helmets.... I'm taking the MSF course at NOVA this weekend. Is that where you are going? I'm sure lots of you have taken this course. Got any tips on what to expect? I have been riding for about a year now and I have my licence but thought it would be a good idea to take this course and learn how to really ride a motorcycle. Rich From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 17:27:55 1996 From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Area Moto Sales To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:27:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > ...Cycles USA; starting tomorrow and lasting the weekend. Speaking of helmets, > they are raffling-off a Shoei RF-200. > Also both locations of Cycle Sport (632 Grant St. Herndon; 6603 Backlick Rd. Springfield) on April 13th. Louis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Caplan | louis@XXXXXX Alexandria, VA | '84 Honda Nighthawk-S 700SC DoD #1754 | No fancy quotations, yet!!! From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 18:20:17 1996 Subject: Re: MSF Course From: rhsu@XXXXXX (Richard T. Hsu) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 11 Apr 96 18:20:12 -0400 X-Mailer: MAILworks 1.7-A-1 > >I'm taking the MSF course at NOVA this weekend. Is that where you are going? > >I'm sure lots of you have taken this course. Got any tips on what to >expect? You might expect to see Leon Begeman, who taught my class at NoVA in October. - -Richard (bikeless, but looking) From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 19:53:32 1996 From: ChrisHMann@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 19:53:00 -0400 To: richwest@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, ChrisHMann@XXXXXX Subject: Re: MSF Course In a message dated 4/11/96 4:15:01 PM, richwest@XXXXXX (Rich Westbrook) wrote: <> well...she's taking the course in charlottesville...and that's where i took it last year....so i'm not sure how similar they are or not...but here's what i remember from last year... the first night you get together for a couple of hours and just talk about the basics of riding and what you need to look out for...we also split the class up into two groups at this time...one would ride bikes in the morning and be in class in the afternoon and the other vice versa....the next day i had class where we saw some msf videos which were a bit dated, but still informative....and then we talked about various safety techniques...and good habits to get started on....in the afternoon we went out to the course....they supplied the helmets and the bikes....although i'd say bring your own if you can....there's were only half faced and old old old....so not very comfortable....you also need gloves, boots, jeans and a long sleeved shirt. we then started out just pushing each other around to get used to the bike (this was my first time ever being on a motorcycle, so it really helped...some people had been riding before) we then went through some exercises on shifting and looking through turns....and making quick decisions. We also did some rear and front wheel slides to see how we'd react. The next day we went back and went through some more lessons, and then took the riding test and written test.... overall alot of fun...and i'm definitely thinking about taken the ERC course.... hope that helps chris From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 11 21:31:51 1996 From: RIdeY@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:31:43 -0400 To: John.Nelson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC Area List Of Events In a message dated 96-04-11 10:11:01 EDT, jnelson@XXXXXX (John Nelson) writes: > >I'd like to start maintaining a list of upcoming events on the Captial Area >Motorheads home page. This would include mostly local area events but could > >include national events like Sturgis and Americaide. > > GOOD IDEA !!! From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 12 07:45:53 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 07:42:03 -0400 To: BWEINER@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: Brake Noise, finally fixed At 11:02 AM 4/11/96, BWEINER@XXXXXX wrote: >I have a few question though, just out of curiosity, is your rotor solid or >drilled, and what material? What was the objective of bead blasting the >disks? Also you refer to "seeding" the brake pads. I've never heard of >that before. What did you mean by this? Seating the brakes allows them to match the surface shape of the rotor. this should be done with any brake, anytime the pad or the metal (disc or drum) is changed. >The reason for the questions is that I recently read that brake noise can >occur when the brake dust gets trapped between the rotor and the pad. >Drilled rotors, in addition to their cooling attributes, let the dust >escape, whereas solid rotor don't. Also a lot, if not all, of the solid >rotors I have seen do not have a completely flat surface, but instead small >concentric grooves. Perhaps the grooves help to reduce the noise by >providing a place for the dust to go. Although I would think that after a >while the pad surface would just become the negative image of the rotor >surface and nullify that effect. The grooves also increase surface area >which is a good thing. Anybody out there have the true story. I'll try to explain brake disk design and hope that those smart guys on the race list aren't listening. When you apply the brakes, the friction betwix the pad and the disk can create gases, which will expand and attempt to push the two apart (not a good thing). The holes or slots in the disk allow that gas to excape. This also has a few added benefits, namely: wet disk performance improves they make a really cool wrrrrr noise when used aggressively The downside is that the holes are a local stress point, and can ititiate cracking. rich From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 12 07:48:42 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 07:42:01 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: Erols Connection At 10:17 PM 4/10/96 -0400, THOMASONCO@XXXXXX wrote: >Does anyone have an opinion on the web services from Erols here in the DC >area. I'm looking for a backup provider to aol. We use Erols, and will I'm using the computer this morning everything's fine and dandy, in the evening it's often tough to get in. Or once in, you'll get dropped often. I'm not fully satisfied because of these speed losses, and I expect things will get worse as Erols continues their advertizing blitz. There is a not-for-profit service provide by a local rider, contact Tom Piergallini at pierre@XXXXXX rich From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 12 07:52:09 1996 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 07:51:31 -0400 X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: MSF Course >I have been riding for about a year now and I have my licence but >thought it would be a good idea to take this course and learn how to really >ride a motorcycle. I recommend the experienced rider course. The exercises aren't much more difficult than those in the beginner course, and you learn them with your own bike. This also keeps you from intimidating the true beginners in the other course. >well...she's taking the course in charlottesville...and that's where i took >it last year....so i'm not sure how similar they are or not... The instructors in Charlottesville get the same update every year that those of us in NOVA get. I teach in two places in Virginia and two in Maryland, there is some variation in the course based on where you take it, (CAUTION: personal opinion follows) but most of the variation occurs based on individual instructor emphasis. Some of those changes are minor and allowed, some have been approved in advance, some shouldn't happen. Richard Hsu mentioned my teaching at Loudoun, this year most of the teaching I do will be in Waldorf, MD. Check out the Web page at http://www.illuminet.net/~mrider/waldorf.html To sign up for a rider course at NOVA's Loudoun campus, call (703) 450-2551. For a course in Maryland, 1-800-638-1722. Leon. mrider@XXXXXX begeman@XXXXXX 1983 Honda CX650C 124Kmiles 1983 Honda GL650I 72Kmiles 1978 Honda CB400A 16Kmiles From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 12 07:52:26 1996 Subject: Re: MSF Course From: crose@XXXXXX (Caron Rose) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 07:52:20 -0400 X-Mailer: MAILworks 1.7-A-1 Basically, what Chris said. It sounds a lot like the MSF course at NOVA. And like Chris said, do bring your own helmet, if you have one. Theirs are not that great. I learned a lot from the class, and I'm glad I took it 5 years ago (this May). And it's definitely FUN! Caron >Questions about msf course.. > >Rich>> > >Chris's summary of the class in Charlottesville > >the riding test and written test.... > >overall alot of fun...and i'm definitely thinking about taken the ERC >course.... > >hope that helps > >chris > From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 12 08:17:07 1996 From: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 08:16:36 -0400 To: sturges@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Erols Connection In a message dated 96-04-12 08:13:26 EDT, sturges@XXXXXX (Rich and Leslie Sturges) writes: > We use Erols, and will I'm using the computer this morning >everything's fine and dandy, in the evening it's often tough to get in. Or >once in, you'll get dropped often. I'm not fully satisfied because of these >speed losses, and I expect things will get worse as Erols continues their >advertizing blitz. As always, you get what you pay for. And just wait another year when the net in general becomes a victim of its own success; it won't matter what provider you choose. Hey anyone going to Open House at Cycle Sport tomorrow? I am going to beat the crowds and test ride a new Triumph Speed Triple there today at lunch time. Steve R65 From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 13 17:24:26 1996 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 14:22:55 -0700 X-Sender: nranone2@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: nranone2@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) Subject: Any Vision Owners out there? I just got an 82 Yamaha Vision and I was wondering if there were any other Vision riders out there? If there are, please email me directly at nranone2@XXXXXX Nick From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 14 07:43:16 1996 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 96 07:42:44 EDT From: acoope00@XXXXXX (Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington ) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Rentals Although I originally sent this out Friday morning, it seems that it didn't go. If you receive it twice, I apologize. I will have a friend visiting from out of town next week. Does anyone have suggestions as to where he could rent a motorcycle in D.C. or the immediate area? What's available and what's required? Thanks! =Drew Cooper Cooper@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 14 16:25:09 1996 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 96 16:24:24 EDT From: acoope00@XXXXXX (Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington ) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Rentals I will have a friend visiting from out of town next week. Does anyone have suggestions as to where he could rent a motorcycle in D.C. or the immediate area? What's available and what's required? Thanks! =Drew Cooper Cooper@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 14 21:09:30 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 21:11:06 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: Brake Noise, finally fixed In regard to drilled brake disks: At 07:42 AM 4/12/96 -0400, Rich and Leslie Sturges wrote: > The downside is that the holes are a local stress point, and can >ititiate cracking. I must apologize to Steve for having written this last friday; Saturday we found that our brake disks are cracked. rich From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 15 11:59:06 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 11:09:06 To: DC-Cycles Subject: Evicting inhabitants I decided to clean out the carbs on the CB-1 this weekend as well as replace the fuel filter, air filter, and spark plugs. Perhaps others out there have had similar results, but I find that my motorcycles run much better after I evict the mice, along with all of their belongings, from the air box. I'm sure they found it a cozy little spot and, from the looks of it, tasty too. I think it was the same mice that I had previously evicted from the RZ's expansion chambers. Or at least they had the same decorator. The thing was full of leaves, peices of cloth, and sunflower seed shells. To prevent such homesteading in the future I cut out two square pieces of 1/4" square chicken wire and crimped them onto the front of the snorkels. I found nothing unexpected in the carbs though. Have I given any of you something to think about? I also went to Cycles USA's sale and sat on the new GSXR-750. Wow! Definitely not for bopping around town, though. Seating position is almost a full tuck. The SO liked the Ninja 250. I left pondering how I could get a new CBR600 F3 (shuweet) without putting myself under financially. Hmmm, trade in the CB-1 and the RZ? Donate a kidney? Oh well, a guy can dream can't he? Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX <---new address "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." <---old sig. RZ350, CB-1 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 15 13:56:50 1996 Subject: Re: Evicting inhabitants From: crose@XXXXXX (Caron Rose) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 13:22:49 -0400 X-Mailer: MAILworks 1.7-A-1 Bryndyn Weiner Wrote: >I decided to clean out the carbs on the CB-1 this weekend as well as >replace the fuel filter, air filter, and spark plugs. Perhaps others out >there have had similar results, but I find that my motorcycles run much >better after I evict the mice, along with all of their belongings, from the >air box. I'm sure they found it a cozy little spot and, from the looks of >it, tasty too. I think it was the same mice that I had previously evicted Hey THAT sounds familiar! When I first bought my 450, it was running kinda sluggish. I took it in for service, and they asked me if I had any 'pets'. Seems that there was some sort of nest in the air filter. They gave me a hard time, asking me if I could hear the poor little mice screaming as I ground them up in my engine.. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 15 14:37:33 1996 From: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 14:37:01 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Sports Cars at Summit Point If any of you enjoy sports car racing, there is an SCCA national race at Summit this weekend, the only National at Summit this year. Drop by and see me; I will be driving FF #77 and will be pitted somewhere near the back of the paddock. Hope the weather is as good as it was for the bikre races this past weekend... Steve From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 15 15:45:53 1996 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 15:45:48 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sash@XXXXXX (Michael A. Dow) Subject: FW: Re: who owns it?? FWD: Possible stolen bike sighting. Posted on balt-cycles. -Sash >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 96 13:53:11 PDT >From: carl >Subject: FW: Re: who owns it?? >To: balt-cycles@XXXXXX >Mime-Version: 1.0 > >Hey guys, >The Columbus, Ohio motorcycle list had a note about a bike with Deleware >tags that has been sitting all winter at a apartment complex. The guy on >the list asked the complex manager who owned it and he did not know. This >sounds like it could be a stolen bike. Ask around and forward this to the >Philly-cycles list and lets see if we can find out whos bike this is. If >it is stolen the owner will be very happy to find out where it is. The >info is included below. >---------------Original Message--------------- >Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:11:04 -0400 (EDT) >From: NEDIM TOSYALI >Subject: Re: who owns it?? >In-reply-to: >X-Sender: s006nlt@XXXXXX >To: carl >Message-id: >MIME-version: 1.0 >Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > >okey it's a 1992 ninja 250 forgot the license plate but the vin is: > JKAEXMF19PA030119 > >ned > > > >----------End of Original Message---------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 15 15:59:42 1996 Received-Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 15:55:15 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 15:49:24 -0400 From: B.Elwell@XXXXXX (Bill Elwell) Subject: Riding Apparel To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part I am seeking advice. I currently ride wearing a leather jacket (no vents). I was out riding on Saturday and already I am complaining about how hot that jacket is. I once had a chance to try a leather jacket with vents but I didn't think the vents made much difference. My questions are as follows: o Does anyone think that vents on a black leather jacket help. Keep in mind that I am behind a fairing. o What is the general opinion of Cordura? Is it cooler than leather? o Does anyone have other suggestions for keeping cool. I am seriously considering removing my fairing just to keep cool. Bill Elwell b.elwell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 15 18:12:55 1996 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 15:09:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "Justin V. Laubach" Subject: Re: Riding Apparel In-reply-to: <172a7d30@ccmail.mi04.zds.com> To: Bill Elwell Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Good question, Bill. I am curious about this too. I've heard that it helps to wear a wet t-shirt (no jokes, please) under the jacket. It seems like it would keep the upper body a lot cooler and it would probably stay damp for quite a while. Haven't tried it yet, though! from, Justin V. Laubach (JLaubach@XXXXXX) On Mon, 15 Apr 1996, Bill Elwell wrote: > I am seeking advice. I currently ride wearing a leather jacket (no > vents). I was out riding on Saturday and already I am complaining > about how hot that jacket is. I once had a chance to try a leather > jacket with vents but I didn't think the vents made much difference. From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 15 18:57:11 1996 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:01:11 -0700 X-Sender: nranone2@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: nranone2@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) Subject: Tire Questions My rear tire has plenty of tread on it, but it has cracks on the sidewall. Should I replace it? Where is a good place to get a bargain on motorcycle tires? Would it be cheaper to mail order an pay a shop to mount them or just pay full price at a shop? I am looking for a rear tire for my 82 Yamaha Vision. Nick From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 15 19:58:26 1996 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 19:55:48 -0400 From: "Robert E. King" To: B.Elwell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Riding Apparel I ride a BMW R65 with a Plexifairing 3 (fairly large windshield). I use a ProTech vented leather jacket and Motoport's UltraCordura overpants, at least up to about 80F. After 85F I just use jeans, the Cordura is too hot. My lower back problem won't let me ride far without a windshield. But I can stay cool in my leather jacket up to 95F. My secret is the little re-freezable ice blocks for lunches from the kitchen stores. I put one in every pocket while riding and put them in the freezer at work/home. Good for about 30 - 45 minutes at 90F. The thickness of my shirt and jacket lining keeps it from feeling too cold while walking to the bike. They only cost a couple of bucks each and last for years. Just remember to take a clerk with you in the store while trying to see which sizes fit which pockets. This prevents a shoplifting accusation. Bob King 1984 R65 Fenris (mine) 1982 KZ440 NoName (hers) From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 16 00:42:09 1996 From: RIdeY@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 00:41:37 -0400 her jacket with huge vents (custom made in Israel) which help alot if you're not stuck in trafic. Of course I also don't have a fairing and sit very upright on the DR650. A friend of mine has a similar jacket and when riding into town on a very hot day puts ice-cooler blocks (the plastic things with blue liquid that you freeze and use to keep you ice-box cold) in the two front pockets - Now thats an idea. Niv DR650 From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 16 09:15:52 1996 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 09:12:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: syswsb@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: B.Elwell@XXXXXX (Bill Elwell) From: syswsb@XXXXXX (Bill Bernstein) Subject: Re: Riding Apparel Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >I am seeking advice. I currently ride wearing a leather jacket (no >vents). I was out riding on Saturday and already I am complaining >about how hot that jacket is. I once had a chance to try a leather >jacket with vents but I didn't think the vents made much difference. > >My questions are as follows: > >o Does anyone think that vents on a black leather jacket help. Keep > in mind that I am behind a fairing. > >o What is the general opinion of Cordura? Is it cooler than leather? > >o Does anyone have other suggestions for keeping cool. > >I am seriously considering removing my fairing just to keep cool. > >Bill Elwell >b.elwell@XXXXXX > > Bill, I have a leather jacket with vents and an aerostitch. The 'stitch is MUCH cooler than the leather even with vents open, and is actually warmer in cool weather. In fact, I gotten to the point that the 'stitch is all I wear now, unless its just up the block to the 7-11. While it takes longer to put on the 'stitch than the leather jacket (by about 20 seconds), its well worth it. I wish I'd bought the 'stitch first! Bill Bernstein '95 Black Daytona 1200 From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 16 09:17:34 1996 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 21:35:38 -0400 X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Riding Apparel >I am curious about this too. I've heard that it helps to wear a wet >t-shirt (no jokes, please) under the jacket. It seems like it would keep >the upper body a lot cooler and it would probably stay damp for quite a >while. Haven't tried it yet, though! > Use a long sleeved t-shirt, it holds more water. Take the shirt off, soak it in water, get as much water as ou can in the shirt. Put it on and put your jacket or Aerostich on over it. Initially you may want to keep some of the vents closed so you don't get too cold, then as the shirt dries, open more vents. I can ride for about 45 minutes per soaking, it varies based on the temperature, humidity and speed. You can also add water to the shirt as you ride by using one of those water bottles with a tube. By squirting water directly on the hot spots, the time between shirt soakings can be increased. You might want to wear a regular t-shirt under the wet one for modesty's sake. I don't, but then I don't have the problem of people leering at me. Leon. mrider@XXXXXX begeman@XXXXXX 1983 Honda CX650C 124Kmiles 1983 Honda GL650I 73Kmiles 1978 Honda CB400A 16Kmiles From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 16 09:26:59 1996 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 96 07:46:39 EDT From: cnorloff@XXXXXX (Chris Norloff) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's PMMail v1.1 Subject: Re: Riding Apparel >I am seeking advice. I currently ride wearing a leather jacket (no >vents). I was out riding on Saturday and already I am complaining >about how hot that jacket is. I once had a chance to try a leather >jacket with vents but I didn't think the vents made much difference. > >My questions are as follows: > >o Does anyone think that vents on a black leather jacket help. Keep > in mind that I am behind a fairing. Vents on any jacket will likely help. Black is a very hot color. My Cool-Tech/Vent-Tech jacket is grey. The fairing will certainly reduce your cooling. Perhaps add wings to the sides that you can angle in to put more air on you (and bugs, but what the heck). >o What is the general opinion of Cordura? Is it cooler than leather? My goretex/cordura (Aerostich) suit breathes more than my leathers, so my overall comfort is better. Fabric suits can also use ice in the pockets to cool you (you wouldn't want to do that with leather!). >o Does anyone have other suggestions for keeping cool. Full Aerostich-type suit with all the vents open, high-top athletic shoes with little holes above the toes (point your feet down to cool your tootsies). Wet t-shirt and/or ice in the suit pockets. Wet kerchief over your head (under your helmet), or just wet down your hair. Well-ventilated helmet with all vents open. Remove the suit IMMEDIATELY when you stop for gas/directions/whatever (it takes a lot longer to cool off than it does to warm up). If you can't take a full suit, use a well-ventilated leather jacket (preferably light color) and jeans. Wet down everything. Ride a naked bike. >I am seriously considering removing my fairing just to keep cool. Better than sacrificing your protection. Personally, I was good to about 105 degrees with the Cool-Tech jacket. With the Aerostich, and a bit more age on me, I'm good only to about 95 or 100 deg. Hotter than that, or if I have to wear nice clothes or not show up damp-looking, I take the cage with built-in cooler. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 16 16:16:08 1996 From: "McLoone, William J." To: DC-Cycles List Subject: RE: Tire Questions Date: Tue, 16 Apr 96 16:07:00 EST Encoding: 29 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 >My rear tire has plenty of tread on it, but it has cracks on the >sidewall. Should I replace it? A judgment call, how old is the tire and how dried and cracked is it? If it's still relatively pliable I might not worry much. If it's dried and hard, I'd replace it without question. >Where is a good place to get a bargain on motorcycle tires? Would it be >cheaper to mail order an pay a shop to mount >them or just pay full price at a shop? I'm not a fan of high prices, but tires is one area I don't skimp on. I would go to a dealer I trust, consult them on what tire is a good match for my bike, riding style, and pocket book, then I'd have them installed there. If anything goes wrong with a mail order tire, who is going to support you. You may even ask them to take a quick look at you current tire and they can tell you if they feel it needs replacing or not. These are my ramblings and any advice you take is at your own risk, I don't want to be sued if you follow my suggestions and anyhting goes wrong. The bottom line is you have a few inches of rubber on the road keeping the shinny side up, make sure it's good. Bill McLoone '82 Susuki GS-450TXz (SOLD) '81 Yamaha XS-11H (50% mine) Burtonsville, MD USA '82 Kawasaki KZ-750E (all mine) 1-800-AMA-JOIN BK-MD I "Ride with Pride" From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 16 16:57:06 1996 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 96 17:00:46 EDT From: payter@XXXXXX (Payter Versteegen) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Tire Questions "McLoone, William J." sayz: * * I'm not a fan of high prices, but tires is one area I don't skimp on. I * would go to a dealer I trust, consult them on what tire is a good match for * my bike, riding style, and pocket book, then I'd have them installed there. * If anything goes wrong with a mail order tire, who is going to support you. * You may even ask them to take a quick look at you current tire and they can * tell you if they feel it needs replacing or not. * * These are my ramblings and any advice you take is at your own risk, I don't * want to be sued if you follow my suggestions and anyhting goes wrong. The * bottom line is you have a few inches of rubber on the road keeping the * shinny side up, make sure it's good. * No way I'd ever disagree with this. I got a pair of tires from a warehouse once. The rear was fine, but the front's a bit out-of-round. Not so good a first impression, eh? Saved myself about $20 overall, but the front end bounces a bit, and actually rides worse than the [albeit worn] tire it replaced. A disgrace to the brand, which I will not mention. My next tire change[s] will be at a dealer, even given the extra cost. L8r, P8r. payter@XXXXXX =;) From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 16 17:40:09 1996 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 14:39:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Justin V. Laubach" Subject: Memorial Day Ride To: DC Cycles MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I think it would be cool to ride the Blue Ridge Parkway over the Memorial Day Weekend. This is a fantastic road with not too much traffic, lots of curves, and great scenery. It starts a mere 2 hours away from DC. Would anyone else be interested in doing this? I know the Rolling Thunder is that weekend, but I'd rather use a 3-day weekend to take a trip than to just go into DC. from, Justin V. Laubach (JLaubach@XXXXXX) 92 Seca II From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 16 19:12:06 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 16 Apr 96 18:17:36 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re[2]: Tire Questions Three months ago I had never replaced my own tires. Then, I mail ordered the tires, a bead breaker, tire irons, valve stems, self-stick wheel wieghts and did it all myself following the step by step instructions in a Sport Rider magazine from the fall. The money I saved on the price of the tires and the service charges allowed me to get better tires. Besides, I enjoyed doing it myself. The mail order (Competition Accessories) place did send me the wrong size tire but they also sent me the correct one even before they had gotten the wrong one back from me. Just insist on getting tires that are not too old. I order the tools from Chapparal. If you use your credit card you are quite protected, in most cases, from rip offs. I'm not trying to convince you to do it yourself, just providing another option. Good luck, Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX <---new address "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." <---old sig. RZ-350, CB-1 ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Tire Questions Author: payter@XXXXXX (Payter Versteegen) at MNGNET Date: 4/16/96 5:00 PM "McLoone, William J." sayz: * * I'm not a fan of high prices, but tires is one area I don't skimp on. I * would go to a dealer I trust, consult them on what tire is a good match for * my bike, riding style, and pocket book, then I'd have them installed there. * If anything goes wrong with a mail order tire, who is going to support you. * You may even ask them to take a quick look at you current tire and they can * tell you if they feel it needs replacing or not. * * These are my ramblings and any advice you take is at your own risk, I don't * want to be sued if you follow my suggestions and anyhting goes wrong. The * bottom line is you have a few inches of rubber on the road keeping the * shinny side up, make sure it's good. * No way I'd ever disagree with this. I got a pair of tires from a warehouse once. The rear was fine, but the front's a bit out-of-round. Not so good a first impression, eh? Saved myself about $20 overall, but the front end bounces a bit, and actually rides worse than the [albeit worn] tire it replaced. A disgrace to the brand, which I will not mention. My next tire change[s] will be at a dealer, even given the extra cost. L8r, P8r. payter@XXXXXX =;) From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 16 23:19:21 1996 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 23:10:11 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Riding Apparel To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <9604161326.AA3029@quimby.os2bbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In the summer I wear a black CoolTech jacket.I've worn it here for the past four summers and down in Texas in 103 degree weather.I love it. The only time it becomes a problem is when I'm at a complete stop,like at a light.As long as you're moving it's very comfortable.It's not the kind of jacket you want once the temp gets below 70 degrees,however. CoolTech is out of business,but I think VentTech(the new version) is still around. Psst,hey buddy.Wanna buy a Buell? gnissley@XXXXXX Buell S2 Thunder(un)bolt GATB#1121 "Most problems in life can be fixed with a chainsaw." Bill D. Cat "But pessimism IS realism!" D.L.Bahr "Auto-Darwin the ignorant." D. Sorenson From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 17 08:53:08 1996 X-Sender: mackinto@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 07:52:58 -0300 To: "Justin V. Laubach" From: David Mackintosh Subject: Re: Memorial Day Ride Cc: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX At 02:39 PM 4/16/96 -0700, you wrote: >I think it would be cool to ride the Blue Ridge Parkway over the Memorial >Day Weekend. This is a fantastic road with not too much traffic, lots of >curves, and great scenery. It starts a mere 2 hours away from DC. I don't know about not too much traffic on Memorial Day weekend. That and Labor Day weekend are the last times I would do it. Between the RV's and the cops, I don't think it'd be too much fun; of course I like to ride fast, if you ride a "cruising" pace you may not mind. Better to go during the week, and when school is in session (may not be an option for you, though). David Mackintosh O- Germantown, MD, USA '82 245 Turbo WVC #M141 mackinto@XXXXXX '89 Honda Hawk GT RC31 DoD #1360 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 17 09:36:20 1996 From: ChrisHMann@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 09:35:48 -0400 To: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Memorial Day Ride i rode down skyline drive on friday afternoon....there are some drawbacks....first of all it takes a really long time to get there....about an hour and a half...and there are so many roads closer that are still lots of fun, that it's not always worth it....plus the speed limit is 35...which isn't necessarily an issue...but usually you do get stuck behind a minivan or something which only goes 25....or worst case scenario (this happened to me on friday) you can get stuck behind a park ranger....and they sure don't speed...and unlike other cars the also don't pull off to look at the pretty views...i guess they've seen it all before. plus there still is alot of gravel left on the road.. i don't know if this gets better in the summer or not... but the sight of gravel going into a tight turn with a 100 foot drop off on my right sort of makes me shudder. all in all i think it's a fun road...and they do have nice views, but i don't think it's necessarily worth the close to 2 hour drive to get there, and the 3 dollar charge. plus likes been said before...on the weekends it will be a madhouse i eventually got off the road, and just took some back roads through farmlands and stuff, which i found much more enjoyable. but if you are going to do it, try and take some back roads to get there, 66 is just plain blah ....i took some road down to warrenton and then took 211...which was still a bit too big for me... chris From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 17 09:53:54 1996 From: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 09:53:21 -0400 To: ChrisHMann@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Memorial Day Ride I gotta agree with Chris Manns comments on Skyline drive. Boring to get there, boring to pay, boring to go 35 and get a great view of the back of Winnebago. There are just too many excellent roads in Loudoun County, Clarke County, and Jefferson/Berkeley/Morgan counties in WV which are free, fast, and beautiful to get me interested in Skyline. Steve From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 17 10:32:03 1996 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:31:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Ted Roberts Subject: I have a leaky rear To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-VMS-To: IN%"dc-cycles@XXXXXX" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT tire. I was wondering if it would be a good idea to use one of those puncture seal products to extend the life of this tire. I've only put 5200 miles on this set; the treads are still good, and the front is fine. There are some things in the rear tire: a nail here, a screw there. What is the general opinion on pucture seal products? Is it a viable alternative to getting a new tire ($$$)? How long would I be able to ride on a tire that was treated this way? How will it affect wheel balance? Anybody out there experienced with this stuff (in either car or bike)? Thanks for your attention. Ted. (P.S. I tried to post this to rec.motorcycles but couldn't.) From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 17 11:23:25 1996 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 11:29:11 EDT From: cnorloff@XXXXXX (Chris Norloff) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, hsta@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's PMMail v1.1 Subject: 10 Reasons Why ... WARNING! The following is politically, fashionably, socially, and aerodynamically incorrect! WARNING! ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------ 10 Reasons Why Women Prefer Motorcycles 1. You expect a loud exhaust on a bike. 2. Your bike doesn't care what the house looks like. 3. Your bike never asks if you're sick just because you go one day without makeup. 4. You know when your bike has had enough to drink, and you don't get any arguments. 5. Your bike can easily handle the 10 pounds you put on over the holidays, without complaints. 6. When you get tired of listening to your bike, you can shut it off. 7. When your bike starts whining, you can get it fixed. 8. If you decide to miss a day of riding, your bike doesn't automatically assume it's because you're riding elsewhere. 9. You don't have to fake how much you enjoy the ride on your bike. 10. Your bike is always ready to go at the same time you are, never prematurely. 10 Reasons Why Men Prefer Motorcycles 1. Your motorcycle will never gain 40 pounds and lose the shape it had when you first met. 2. Motorcycle don't get headaches or have to do their hair. 3. Your motorcycle will never show up when you're driving your car and embarass you. 4. Motorcycles don't get cellulite or varicose veins. 5. Your motorcycle can be ridden every day of the month. 6. Motorcycles are always ready for a ride, however short and quick. 7. Motorcycle don't come with motorcycle-in-laws. 8. Motorcycles never insist that you go someplace you don't want to go. 9. Your motorcycle never mentions your previous motorcycle. 10. Your motorcycle will NEVER look up at you and say, "You want me to do WHAT?" from the ABATE of Maryland Newsletter, Nov/Dec 1995, from "Freedom of Road Riders, Inc. of Missouri" From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 17 11:33:43 1996 From: KRoy@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 11:33:12 EDT X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: Great local twisties - was Re: Memorial Day Ride X-Incognito-SN: 239 X-Incognito-Format: VERSION=2.01a ENCRYPTED=NO On Wednesday, April 17, 1996 at 9:53:21 am EDT, SRFox@XXXXXX wrote: >There are just too many excellent roads in Loudoun County, >Clarke County, and Jefferson/Berkeley/Morgan counties >in WV which are free, fast, and beautiful to get me interested >in Skyline. Ok, so does anyone have an interest in starting a thread on good places to go close to the DC area with nice twisties? Being a year round commuter means I ride a lot but have little back road skill. I'd like to take some rides where I can work on that. I don't have any roads to start the thing out though (although the beltway from College Park to Rockville is "great" for practicing the skill of keeping your feet on the pegs while hardly moving). Kirk '88 Hawk GT (with rear brake caliper being rebuilt - parts take a week to arrive - aaaaaahhhhhhh) From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 17 13:28:31 1996 X-Sender: mackinto@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 12:28:28 -0300 To: KRoy@XXXXXX From: David Mackintosh Subject: Re: Great local twisties - was Re: Memorial Day Ride Cc: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX At 11:33 AM 4/17/96 EDT, KRoy wrote: >Ok, so does anyone have an interest in starting a thread on good >places to go close to the DC area with nice twisties? Being a year >round commuter means I ride a lot but have little back road skill. >I'd like to take some rides where I can work on that. I don't >have any roads to start the thing out though (although the beltway >from College Park to Rockville is "great" for practicing the skill >of keeping your feet on the pegs while hardly moving). I commute all year on my Hawk, too (wimped out and bought a 'Stich and Widder this year, though). I've got a nice commute home from Carderock, MD, out MacArthur Blvd to Great Falls, River Road out to Seneca, and any number of combinations of back roads from there out towards Poolesville, Sugarloaf, around Seneca Lake, and eventually ending up in Germantown. I come in early and usually leave around 3pm, so not too much traffic. Some tight twisty stuff with a few whoops, so the Hawk is perfect. If anyone with a similar schedule wants to meet me, send some mail. >From Rockville to College Park you might want to head north and east to find some nice roads (sorry I can't recommend any specifically), eventually hitting Rt. 1 above the beltway. Get a county map and explore! If you don't have to get home, head west on 28, you don't have to go too far before you hit some decent stuff. Grab something to eat, or swing by my place, and head home after rush hour. >Kirk >'88 Hawk GT (with rear brake caliper being rebuilt - parts take a > week to arrive - aaaaaahhhhhhh) Grey or blue? I found a blue one in Ohio for a buddy last fall, I'm loving my red '89. While you've got it apart, get the brake line kit from Chafong (or make one) to run through the swingarm and get rid of that huge chain gaurd. Looks great on my bike! Later, David Mackintosh O- Germantown, MD, USA '82 245 Turbo WVC #M141 mackinto@XXXXXX '89 Honda Hawk GT RC31 DoD #1360 From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 17 13:34:34 1996 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:33:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Justin V. Laubach" Subject: Re: Great local twisties - was Re: Memorial Day Ride In-reply-to: To: DC Cycles MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > Ok, so does anyone have an interest in starting a thread on good > places to go close to the DC area with nice twisties? Being a year > round commuter means I ride a lot but have little back road skill. > I'd like to take some rides where I can work on that. I don't > have any roads to start the thing out though (although the beltway > from College Park to Rockville is "great" for practicing the skill > of keeping your feet on the pegs while hardly moving). This sounds like a good idea. There are actually a few nice roads in Clifton, which is only about 15 min from Fairfax. BTW, I prefer the Blue Ridge Parkway to the Skyline drive. BRP has a speed limit of 45 the whole way (you can go 55 without trouble). It has a lot less traffic than Skyline and goes about 3 times as far. During the week it is almost empty, which makes for almost heaven! Neither road has trucks, which is a big plus in my book. I also like them because they have lots of scenic overlooks and hikes to enjoy along with the twisty road. Also lots of campgrounds.... Justin jlaubach@XXXXXX 92 Seca II From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 17 14:17:12 1996 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:17:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Vimarsh To: "Justin V. Laubach" cc: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Memorial Day Ride In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sounds like a great idea. Count me in. Vimarsh Bakaya Phone (H) 301-365-0940 (O) 703-974-5165 Bell Atlantic e-mail : Vimarsh.S.Bakaya@XXXXXX Software Engineering WWW: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~joyous %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% If evolution is the imagination of God rising to the occasion, then motorcycles are the spirit of man rising to that challenge %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% On Tue, 16 Apr 1996, Justin V. Laubach wrote: > I think it would be cool to ride the Blue Ridge Parkway over the Memorial > Day Weekend. This is a fantastic road with not too much traffic, lots of > curves, and great scenery. It starts a mere 2 hours away from DC. > Would anyone else be interested in doing this? > > I know the Rolling Thunder is that weekend, but I'd rather use a 3-day > weekend to take a trip than to just go into DC. > > from, > Justin V. Laubach > (JLaubach@XXXXXX) > 92 Seca II > From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 17 14:47:11 1996 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:47:10 -0400 X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: I have a leaky rear When I saw the subject, I thought of this. REPORTER: Mr. Dole, boxers or briefs? BobDole: Depends . . . >What is the general opinion on pucture seal products? Bikers seem to me to be a spendthrifty group. Most of 'em will tell you to replace the tire with a new one from a dealer and let him mount it. That's the most expensive option. The options I've used. 1) puncture seal. Advantage - it seals the holes before they happen. Disadvantages - it corrodes the rim, making the next change more difficult - it won't seal as large hole as a rubber plug - some of the cheaper versions that look like whipped cream won't seal at all. 2) 'Snot on a string' plugs - Advantage - easier to install than a rubber plug - more reliable than puncture seal - sometimes comes with nice installation tools. Disadvantage - only lasts about a thousand miles. 3) Rubber plug inserted from the outside of the tire - Advantage - usually stays in - can be installed without removing the tire. Disadvantage - Hard to install. 4) Rubber plug with mushroom head - Advantage - always stays in. Disadvantage - must be installed from the inside of the tire. >Is it a viable alternative to getting a new tire ($$$)? Yup. It will repair nail/screw holes as long as they aren't very big. I prefer the rubber plugs, they don't corrode the rim, and they usually last the life of the tire. >How long would I be able to ride on a tire that was treated this way? I rode on mine until the tread was gone. >How will it affect wheel balance? I didn't notice any difference. But I've never noticed that any of my bike tires were ever out of balance. Leon. mrider@XXXXXX begeman@XXXXXX 1983 Honda CX650C 124Kmiles 1983 Honda GL650I 73Kmiles 1978 Honda CB400A 16Kmiles From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 17 14:50:45 1996 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 14:49:52 EDT From: acoope00@XXXXXX (Andrew Cooper -- Arent Fox - Washington ) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Route 66 - NOT OK, it's time for me to give up a secret. Those of you complaining about I-66 to Skyline Drive must not know about Route 55, which parallels 66 from Gainesville to Front Royal. Few cars use it; most prefer 66, which tracks the same route. Try it, you'll like it! =Drew Cooper Cooper@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 17 14:53:55 1996 From: ChrisHMann@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:53:24 -0400 To: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: Great local twisties - was Re: Memorial Day Ride In a message dated 4/17/96 1:38:07 PM, mackinto@XXXXXX (David Mackintosh) wrote: <<>Ok, so does anyone have an interest in starting a thread on good >places to go close to the DC area with nice twisties? Being a year >round commuter means I ride a lot but have little back road skill.>> well i commute to work on my bike fairly regularly...and i go against traffice which is an added plus....from arlington to reston, i take the gw parkway out to 495 and head south then pick up georgetown pike....which is a really nice twisty road.... but only if you go opposite traffic...otherwise it's at a standstill...i've also stopped off at greatfalls national park , which is on the way.... chris From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 17 16:11:05 1996 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 16:09:21 -0400 From: Warren Weiss Subject: Re: I have a leaky rear In-Reply-To: Leon Begeman "Re: I have a leaky rear" (Apr 17, 2:47pm) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > When I saw the subject, I thought of this. > > REPORTER: Mr. Dole, boxers or briefs? > BobDole: Depends . . . hehehehehe...Yeah, I was thinking along the same lines. I read that subject line and laughed out loud. :) > 3) Rubber plug inserted from the outside of the tire - Advantage - usually > stays in - can be installed without removing the tire. Disadvantage - Hard > to install. That's what I did to my rear tire on a bike one time and never had a problem with it. -- ************************************************************************ Warren W. Weiss VMI '87 wweiss@XXXXXX AMA # 409056 weiss@XXXXXX Hughes Information Technology Company Ride: '85 VF700F Interceptor Upper Marlboro, MD Deus Ex Machina Think For Yourself and Question Authority Anonymous ************************************************************************ From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 18 18:10:27 1996 X-Sender: mark@sport X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:13:49 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mark Vicuna Subject: Local Kawasaki Parts Q... Hi, Can anyone recomended a place to get replacement Ninja 250 sprockets in the Area? I've 'inheriated' my brothers bike and it has a huge number of teeth on it and he didn't keep the original AND since I don't plan on riding like he does I'd like to get it back to either original state or even a little taller since I spend a lot of the time on it just commuting. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks, MarkV. From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 18 19:41:43 1996 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 19:41:05 -0400 (EDT) From: my own worst nightmare To: Mark Vicuna cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Local Kawasaki Parts Q... In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960418221349.008f41a0@sport> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, Mark Vicuna wrote: > Can anyone recomended a place to get replacement Ninja 250 sprockets in > the Area? > I've 'inheriated' my brothers bike and it has a huge number of teeth on it > and he didn't keep the original AND since I don't plan on riding like he > does I'd like to get it back to either original state or even a little > taller since I spend a lot of the time on it just commuting. sprocket specialists make almost any size sprocket for almost any application out of more than one material (i.e. aluminum, steel, etc.) and will custom make whatever you like, for whatever you like. unfortunately, they only do business with dealers, the last time i checked. i have their sprockets on my F2, with a slight change in gearing ;) for a bit of acceleration... if you'd like any more info on them, i deal with them at work on a regular basis... let me know :) seth From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 00:12:01 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 00:16:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Williams To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Cheap Honda Parts? In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960418221349.008f41a0@sport> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I need cheap Honda parts in the dc area. Any ideas" Jim Williams jim@XXXXXX BTW How do I change my email address with the listserver? From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 08:20:25 1996 MR-Received: by mta WBHQB1; Relayed; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:17:52 +0000 MR-Received: by mta GATEWY; Relayed; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:17:17 +0000 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:17:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Perry Coleman Subject: Re: Local Kawasaki Parts Q... To: dc-cycles MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Posting-date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:17:52 +0000 (GMT) Importance: normal Priority: normal UA-content-id: B978IGM1SURY X400-MTS-identifier: [;25712191406991/8586373@WBHQB] A1-format: ASCII A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 2 Mark, Check out Cycle Accessory Discounters in Oldtown Gaithersburg. Good people and good prices. Their number is 301-977-7188 (I think.) Short of mail-order, I think their prices are among the best around. Perry From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 08:29:41 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 08:29:35 -0400 X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Jim Williams , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Cheap Honda Parts? > >I need cheap Honda parts in the dc area. Any ideas" 1) Keep an eye out for a bike of your model that is dead in somebody's yard, then go buy it. I bought two parts bikes to keep the CX running for $175 and $150 each, both were repairable and in better shape than the CX is now. I think I've got enough parts to ride it another 30K or so. 2) H&H Cycles in Woodbridge (and other salvage yards) has many used parts for about half of what new ones cost. 3) Get to know your dealer, Cycles Woodbridge gives me the normal 10% discount for AMA membership, and will often discount more than that if I wince and plead poverty when they quote the price. They have also done a special order over the phone with no money down, of course when asking for favors like that, I don't ask for a discount. Leon. mrider@XXXXXX begeman@XXXXXX 1983 Honda CX650C 124Kmiles 1983 Honda GL650I 73Kmiles 1978 Honda CB400A 16Kmiles From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 09:06:16 1996 From: Dark Hacker Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:06:07 -0400 (EDT) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, jim@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cheap Honda Parts? Salvage yards. Scrapyards

Motorcycle Boneyards And Parts Dealers

The Land Of The Dead

The following is my current list of motorcycle salvage and new/used parts suppliers. If you have any additional parts dealers you'd like to add then please send them to me and I'll add them to the list. Thanks to Chris Norloff for the beginings of this list.

Boneyards

Cycle Service                   302 322 2453 (Bear, DE)
Cycletronics                    205 896 4115 (Camp Hill, AL)
D & M                           219 483 6833 (in Indiana)
Dirt Cycles                     508 478 5700 (Jefferson, LA)
Eagle Systems Cycle Salvage     317 286 1673 (Muncie, IN)
EEE Parts                       507 374 2222 (Dodge Center, MN)
Finish Line                     603 228 8745 (Concord, NH)
Fremont Cycle Salvage           800 424 5588 (Fremont, CA)
Hap Jones                       408 432 1918 (San Jose, CA)
International                   803 755 2300 (West Columbia, SC)
JC Motors                       714 557 2558 (CA)
Jim's Cycle Salvage             800 392-2984
M. A. P.                        813 381 1151 (Saint Petersburgh, FL)
Mike's Cycle Parts              800 327 7304 (Salem, OR, exchange only)
Midway Cycle Salvage            800 232 6686 (Madison, AL)
Motorcycle Performance          608 238 1195 (Madison, WI)
Motorcycle Salvage              800 346 4424 (Hampton, VA)
Motorcycle Salvage              615 581-4699 (Morristown, Tn)
Nostalgia                       605 393 2600 (Rapid City, SD)
Norm's                          412 462 2225 (in Pennsylvania)
North County Motorcycle         800 321 2453 (Escondido, CA)
North Edge Cycle                800 428 7821 (Beaumont, TX)
Northeast Cycle Salvage         508 458 3310 (MA)
Outpost Motorcycle Salvage      314 764-2359 (Rosebud, Mo)
People's Motorcycle & Salvage   (617) 969-3871  (Newton. MA)
P & F Cycle Salvage             302 674 4990 (Dover, DE)
Parts Connection                303 536 0406 (Hudson, CO)
R & D                           614 522 4671 (Heath, OH)
Rancho Motorcycle Dismantling   800 494 2925 (Rancho Cordova, CA)
Rice Paddy                      614 224 1404 (Columbus, OH)
Rick's                          603 382 5299 (Plaistow, NH)
Sam's                           800 346 2838
S & K Hawkeye Cycle             319 557-7408 (Dubuque, Ia)
Sky                             800 345 6115
Sky Cycle                       508 345 4647 (MA)
Solar Tech                      504 340 5351 (Harvey, LA)
Someplace Else                  608 269-4297 or 608 272-3976 (Sparta,Wi)
Steele's Motorcycle Salvage     303 781 5339 (CO)
Steve's                         912 386 8666, 800 622 9253 (Tifton, GA)
Stocker's Motorcycle Salvage    800 660 2453 (San Diego, CA)
Sport Wheels                    800 821 5975
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Sun Cycle                       302 368 3626 (Newark, DE, small junkyard)
Steele's Motorcycle Salvage     303 781 5339 (Englewood, CO)
Tracy's                         800 860-0686 (Pittsburg, Pa)
Western Slope Mcy Salvage       800 254 2453 (Grand Junction, CO)
Wisconsin, Cycle Salvage        414 722 6909 (Neenah, WI)

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Bent Beemer                     503 549 9742 (Sisters, OR)
Bent Bike MC Salvage            800 328 8810
Blue Moon Cycle                 404 447 6945 (Norcross, GA)
BMW Motorrad                    800 9991269, 314 531 4010 (MO)
Bob's BMW                       301 924 5155 (Elkridge, MD)
Capital Cycle Corporation       800 642 5100
CC Products                     408 559 6602 (CA)
Eurotech                        800 845 4022
Luftmeister                     800 275 2129, 213 408 0411
Perry BMW Exchange              317 564 6338 (Delphi, IN)
Re-Psycle BMW Parts             614 837 1160 (Carroll, OH)
Recycled Cycles Inc.            208 772 2645 (ID)
Salvage & Used Parts            509 926 5044 (WA)
San Jose BMW                    408 295 0205 (San Jose, CA)
Shail's Motorcycles Ltd         604 266 7736 (Vancouver, B.C.)
Speed's Cycle                   410 379 0106 (Elkridge, MD)

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From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 09:27:12 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 09:27:07 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: richwest@XXXXXX (Rich Westbrook) Subject: Re: Cheap Honda Parts? >I need cheap Honda parts in the dc area. Any ideas" I have always had good luck finding used stuff at Coleman Powersport. As long as you aren't looking for a real popular part like a trun signal or a brake handle they might have it. The guys who work there have always been very helpfull. New parts I don't think are any great bargain but again the people there were very helpful. And no, I don't work for Coleman Powersport :-) Rich From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 11:44:27 1996 From: BWEINER@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 11:12:00 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cheap Honda Parts? Mail order. Try Banzai parts in Illinois. 1-800-405-7283. At least 20% lower than any shop around here even without any sort of club membership. Good luck, Bryndyn Weiner email: bweiner@XXXXXX <---new address "It only takes two-strokes to get me excited." <---old sig. RZ-350, CB-1 ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Cheap Honda Parts? Author: Jim Williams at MNGNET Date: 4/19/96 1:12 AM I need cheap Honda parts in the dc area. Any ideas" Jim Williams jim@XXXXXX BTW How do I change my email address with the listserver? From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 13:14:11 1996 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 13:20:04 EST From: "Daren Magness" To: 75460.2502@XXXXXX, bsummers@XXXXXX, catherine_hontiveros@XXXXXX, cohenj@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, GSANDE@XXXXXX, jcuevas@XXXXXX, khawkins@XXXXXX, lac013@XXXXXX, macy@XXXXXX, peted@XXXXXX, prime@XXXXXX, resinc@XXXXXX, Rivera_Robbie@XXXXXX, roapuno@XXXXXX, rrivera@XXXXXX Subject: Theft of laptop computers at airports This is something that came to me at work from our public relations folks on the NISC project - good information. Applies to laptops, but almost anything could be stolen in a similar fashion. I've recently learned of a hustle that's being employed at airports all across the country to steal lap top computers. It involves two persons who look for a victim carrying a lap top and approaching a metal detector. They position themselves in front of the unsuspecting passenger. They stall until the mark puts the lap top computer on the conveyor belt. Then the first subject moves through the metal detector easily. The second subject sets off the detector and begins a slow process of emptying pockets, removing jewelry, etc. While this is happening, the first subject takes the lap top as soon as it appears on the conveyor belt and moves away quickly. When the passenger finally gets throught the metal detector, the lap top is gone. The subject that picks it up heads into the gate area and disappears among the crowd. Sometimes a third subject will take a hand off from the first subject and the computer is out of the restricted area before the mark even knows that it is gone. This is becoming a widely practiced problem and is happening at airports everywhere. When traveling with a lap top computer, try to avoid lines to enter a metal detector when possible. When you can't do that, delay putting your luggage and lap top on the conveyor belt until you are sure that you will be the next person through the metal detector. As you move through the metal detector, keep your eyes on the conveyor belt and watch for your luggage and lap top to come through as well as watching for what those in front of you are picking up. From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 13:20:43 1996 From: "Weinstein, John, Dr, NSS" To: "'dc-cycles-request'" Subject: Local Kawasaki Parts Q... Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 10:03:00 PDT Encoding: 16 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 ---------- Can anyone recomended a place to get replacement Ninja 250 sprockets in the Area? -------------------------------------------------snip----------------------- ------------ try rob at h & h cyles (woodbridge) if ur looking for used parts. the # is 730-2833. the prices are fair. good luck- john From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 13:51:15 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 13:51:09 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: richwest@XXXXXX (Rich Westbrook) Subject: Used Bikes I have a question for any one that has bought a used bike from someone. I am most likely going to be puchasing a motorcycle from a guy in Pittsburgh this Saturday (April 20). I was going to rent a trailer or truck to carry the bike back to DC. The problem is that it is almost impossible to get one for the day on such short notice. Is it legal for me to ride the bike back to DC with his plates on the bike? Do I have to get some kind of temporary tag from DMV? Thanks in advance. Rich From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 14:44:49 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 14:44:37 EDT X-Sender: mackinto@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: richwest@XXXXXX (Rich Westbrook) From: David Mackintosh Subject: Re: Used Bikes Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX At 01:51 PM 4/19/96 -0400, Rich Westbrook wrote: >I am most likely going to be puchasing a motorcycle from a guy in >Pittsburgh this Saturday (April 20). I was going to rent a trailer or >truck to carry the bike back to DC. The problem is that it is almost >impossible to get one for the day on such short notice. Is it legal for me >to ride the bike back to DC with his plates on the bike? Yes, as long as you have the registration, etc., and he doesn't report it as stolen! Carrying the title would be a good idea, too, incase a cop gets suspicious. >Do I have to get >some kind of temporary tag from DMV? You can only do this if you have the title already, and you are not suposed to use the bike out of state with a temp. tag (I believe). It's a hassle. The only time I have bought a bike out of state, I took the tag and registration off my '88 Honda MC (this is all the registration says) which was a VTR250, flew to Ohio, and put it on the '89 Honda MC (Hawk GT) that I was picking up. Even if I had been stopped, the only way I could've been busted was if the cop compared the VINs on the registration vs. the bike. David Mackintosh O- Germantown, MD, USA '82 245 Turbo WVC #M141 mackinto@XXXXXX '89 Honda Hawk GT RC31 DoD #1360 From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 15:08:23 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 14:55:32 EDT X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: From: "Frank George" Subject: re:Used Bikes ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- Sent by:richwest@XXXXXX (Rich Westbrook) <> Is it legal for me to ride the bike back to DC with his plates on the bike? Do I have to get some kind of temporary tag from DMV? <> ===================================================================== I'm not sure of legalities, but I would be more concerned about insurance issues. Once you sign on the dotted line, I'd guess that his insurance company will no longer cover the bike. If you are involved in an accident on the way home, you might be personally liable for any damages caused to others. Will your insurance company will cover you for the ride home, even thought the bike hasn't been titled to you? My insurance friends tell me no. Even ignoring DMV hassles, I'd still wait until I could get U-Haul to get the bike. Its not worth risking every thing I own. (damn, I'm starting to sound old) Frank George fegeorge@XXXXXX fgeorge@XXXXXX Reynolds Metals Company / Corporate Engineering "opinions are mine, ... mailbox is the company's" From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 15:45:41 1996 From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Date: 20 Apr 96 03:48:00 -0400 To: "'DC Cycles'" Original-From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Original-To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Used Bikes Original-Date: Sat Apr 20 03:48 EDT 1996 Encoding: 18 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Content-Type: text >I am most likely going to be puchasing >a motorcycle from a guy in Pittsburgh this >Saturday (April 20). I was going to rent a >trailer ortruck to carry the bike back to DC. Unless your real strong, it's probably too heavy. >The problem is that it is almost impossible >to get one for the day on such short notice. Call Mike and Mary Rowland. They live in Frederick and it would be on your way to Pittsburgh. They have a nice motorcycle trailer that they will rent to you, if you seem honest. (301) 662-1959 Kevin From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 16:34:19 1996 From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Date: 19 Apr 96 16:30:12 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Used Bikes In-Reply-To: <3177ED52@hrfocus.cdesign> > Original-From: "Hawkins, Kevin" > Original-To: "'DC Cycles'" > Original-Date: Sat Apr 20 03:48 EDT 1996 > Encoding: 18 TEXT > X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 > Content-Type: text > > >I am most likely going to be puchasing > >a motorcycle from a guy in Pittsburgh this > >Saturday (April 20). I was going to rent a > >trailer ortruck to carry the bike back to DC. > > Unless your real strong, it's probably too > heavy. > > >The problem is that it is almost impossible > >to get one for the day on such short notice. > > Call Mike and Mary Rowland. They live in > Frederick and it would be on your way to > Pittsburgh. They have a nice motorcycle > trailer that they will rent to you, if you seem > honest. (301) 662-1959 > > Kevin > ..now THAT'S the most useful bit of information I've read in this list in a long time...good job Kevin! have a great weekend folks..hopefully the weather will hold steady and I can take my baby out for a run! cheers, -aki From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 17:32:43 1996 From: sanjay@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Used Bikes To: FEGeorge@XXXXXX (Frank George) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 17:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: from "Frank George" at Apr 19, 96 02:55:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn3.1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ----------------------[Reply - Original Message]---------------------- > Sent by:richwest@XXXXXX (Rich Westbrook) > <> > Is it legal for me to ride the bike back to DC with his plates on the > bike? Do I have to get some kind of temporary tag from DMV? > <> > ===================================================================== > > I'm not sure of legalities, but I would be more concerned about > insurance issues. Once you sign on the dotted line, I'd guess that his > insurance company will no longer cover the bike. If you are involved in > an accident on the way home, you might be personally liable for any > damages caused to others. > > Will your insurance company will cover you for the ride home, even > thought the bike hasn't been titled to you? My insurance friends tell me > no. do you currently own a bike with insurance? reading the fine print in that may help. two years ago i was reading the fine print on my (liability only) insurance policy, issued by progressive and found out that the coverage is still valid when riding friend's bike (no mention of the word rental) or transporting home a bike that i have purchased. hope it helps sanjay From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 20:43:06 1996 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) From: Thomas Piergallini Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 20:50:21 -0400 To: Subject: Re: Used Bikes (insurance) Frank wrote: > Will your insurance company will cover you for the ride home, even > thought the bike hasn't been titled to you? My insurance friends > tell me no. I have insured bikes many times without them being registered. All you need is the VIN. --pierre --- Thomas Piergallini NVIAC Network Manager EMail: pierre@XXXXXX, pierre@XXXXXX Send me NeXTmail and MIME From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 19 23:11:56 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 23:11:59 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: Cheap Honda Parts? At 12:16 AM 4/19/96 -0400, Jim Williams wrote: >I need cheap Honda parts in the dc area. Any ideas" Jim, try Dave at Cycle Accessories Discounters (Gaithersburg, MD) or Rick at Fast Lane Cycles (Centreville, VA). rich From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 20 08:29:09 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 08:29:21 -0400 To: "Weinstein, John, Dr, NSS" , "'dc-cycles-request'" From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: Local Kawasaki Parts Q... > Can anyone recomended a place to get replacement Ninja 250 sprockets in >the Area? If it's used you want I probably have some, email or call me at 703-526-4443 (falls church, VA) rich From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 20 08:29:10 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 08:29:22 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, race-l@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Big fun road trip, or how to work for free Tired of getting paid to work? Would you like to work all day for free? But wait, there's more! We'll even make you pay for your gate entry!! Order before midnight tonight and get an electric watermelon peeler at no additional costs. In two weeks, May 3rd and 4th, Team Charm will be racing a 6-hr endurance race at Rd Atlanta in Georgia. We are looking for a few good men, women, or trained monkeys to help us maintain our high pit-stop standard. Candidates should be reliable, able to pay for 1/8th of a hotel room, and should not currently be wanted for any felony violations. A mechanical aptitude is not required, but candidate must be able to execute simple commands such as: "Kindly use that fire extinguisher to put out the engine fire." Thursday night travel, Friday practice, Saturday race and you could be home on Sunday. Some light lifting may be required (not to exceed 12oz). Interested parties should contact me at sturges@XXXXXX rich From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 20 22:51:24 1996 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 02:51:23 GMT From: leavitt@XXXXXX (Mr. Bill) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Announcing RCR-V, and Official Call for Checks I'm spamming this to a number of regional mailing lists up and down the east coast, and to rec.moto. Sorry if you're seeing this more than once. ...RCR-V...RCR-V...RCR-V...RCR-V...RCR-V...RCR-V...RCR-V...RCR-V... The official Call for Checks for the 5th Annual Right Coast Ride (RCR-V) The Right Coast Ride started in 1992 when a Denizen (#0111), recently transplanted to the east coast, noted a lack of a major gather such as the UniCoastal Joust in California or the Ride 'n Feed in Colorado. Seeking to remedy the situation, he created the Right Coast Ride. There were about thirty attendees at this first RCR (or RCR-I as it came to be known), and due to its raging popularity has become an annual event ever since. Once a year, Denizens and other motorcycling inhabitants of the 'Net on the North American east coast have crawled from behind their terminals to meet one another face-to-face. This is the fifth such installment of the RCR. Here are the particulars for this year's edition: Date: Friday, June 21st (noon) to Sunday, June 23rd (noon) Place: Camp West Mar, in Thurmont Maryland (near Frederick) Price: $25.00 per person. (but read on) Included: * bunkhouse lodging for two nights (Friday and Saturday) for the first 120 or so of us. Camping is the same price. If we run out of bunkhouse space, you'll have to camp. (I tend to doubt this happening. If we fill the bunkhouses and you don't want to camp, I'll return your money.) * Dinner Saturday night (1.5 hours catered buffet). Buffet will feature fried chicken and barbeque pork. Vegetarian meals will be available on ADVANCE REQUEST only. * Coffee/tea/juice service Saturday and Sunday mornings. We will also lay in a stock of donuts and bagels for Saturday morning. Beer will be supplied at $10.00 per person for Saturday night. If expenses go better than expected, there may be some beer and soda for Friday night as well, but don't count on it. You might want to BYOB for Friday night. Some things you may want to bring: * Towels, toiletries: I plan to stock the bath houses with soap, toilet paper and paper towels. Everything else is up to you. * Bed "linens" (sleeping bag, sheets and blanket, whatever) and a pillow. The bunk beds have vinyl covers on the mattresses so something to lay on would be a good idea. To allow us to use the camp I HAVE to have a release form signed by ALL attendees. I'm adding some extra information to it that you may fill in for emergencies. This idea came to us at the Spring Fling a couple years ago when there was an accident. Hopefully we won't need it, and I promise not to give or use this information for any other reason. I will also destroy this information after the RCR. So if you want to attend, print the following form, fill it out, write a check and send it all to: Bill Leavitt 2206 Larchmont Drive Fallston, Maryland 21047-1610 I will acknowledge receipt of each form that contains a valid email address. I'll ask for phone numbers but won't use them unless absolutely necessary. There is an official email list for the RCR. If you plan to attend, I very strongly encourage you to subscribe to keep abreast of the latest news, verify directions to the camp, etc. The list's name is EAST, and to subscribe send email to with the following in the message body: SUBSCRIBE EAST your name My email address is . Please direct any other questions to this address. +++++++++++++++++++++++ cut here and print +++++++++++++++++++++++ MANDATORY section - all this information must be supplied. Name: ____________________________________________________________ Address: ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ (Optional) phone numbers: ___________________ ___________________ Internet EMAIL address: ____________________________ Lodging Preference: Bunkhouses ______ Camping ______ (planning purposes only) Number of attendees desiring a vegetarian meal Saturday: _______ (The vegetarian meal is a vegetable lasagna and MUST be ordered in advance) Number of attendees: _________ X $25.00 = $__________ Number of attendees drinking beer: _______ X $10.00 = $__________ Amount enclosed: $__________ (Canadian attendees, et al, please make these in US Funds only) RELEASE FORM: Camp West Mar will not be responsible for any accidents happening to any person or persons of the rental groups. We, the undersigned, hereby agree to adhere to all the rules and regulations regarding the use of Camp West Mar. Signatures of attendees: ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ Send to: Bill Leavitt 2206 Larchmont Drive Fallston, MD 21047-1610 ++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++ OPTIONAL SECTION: In case of emergency contact:_________________________________________________ name _________________________________________________ Phone number _________________________________________________ name _________________________________________________ Phone number I'll leave it up to you to decide if there are any other things you'd like to add that usually accompany "emergency" forms. Again, this information will go nowhere else. Mr. Bill -- Bill Leavitt leavitt@XXXXXX | "Blow it out your ass, motorcycle man! AMA, ICOA, Lemans, KTC, DoD #0224 | I am THE DEVIL, do you UNDERSTAND?" HON: 82 CBX, 79 CX500C KAW: 72 H2 |________--Frank Zappa, "Titties & Beer" SUZ: 82 GS850G, 76 RE5, 75 RE5, 75 RE5, 73 GT380 "More bikes than brains!" From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 21 13:31:32 1996 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Justin V. Laubach" Subject: Re: Announcing RCR-V, and Official Call for Checks In-reply-to: <199604210251.CAA04275@nemo.cs.UMD.EDU> To: DC Cycles MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey all, This Right Coast Ride sounds pretty cool. Has anybody ever been on one before? I this this list should try to send a group..... I'd be interested! from, Justin V. Laubach (JLaubach@XXXXXX) 92 Yamaha Seca II From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 10:01:42 1996 From: sanjay@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Announcing RCR-V, and Official Call for Checks To: jlaubach@XXXXXX (Justin V. Laubach) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 10:01:40 -0400 (EDT) Cc: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: from "Justin V. Laubach" at Apr 21, 96 10:31:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn3.1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > This Right Coast Ride sounds pretty cool. Has anybody ever been on one > before? I this this list should try to send a group..... > I'd be interested! i went to one in 1993. i think it was rcr II. it was held at a little town in west virginia. the location was great with lots of twisties for having a good time. a lot of the rec,.moto regulars know each other who meet only on these occassions. spring fling (tm) in april/may by north east dod, land/sea/air (tm) in june by philly/delaware dod etc. it is a cool way to put faces to sigs. i have high regard for mr. bill's moto abilities, and i assume he will do a really good job in organizing this thankless task. sanjay From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 10:46:57 1996 From: "McLoone, William J." To: DC-Cycles List Subject: Re: RCR-V Date: Mon, 22 Apr 96 10:38:00 EST Encoding: 27 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 >This Right Coast Ride sounds pretty cool. Has anybody ever been on one >before? I this this list should try to send a group..... >I'd be interested! >Justin V. Laubach I have not been to an RCR ride yet but hear great things about them. I AM going and will be honored to ride up with other DC-Cycles list members. The RCR is probably one of the biggest internet biker event on the east coast. Last year I believe it drew near 100 participants. Those I know that have been before, always return if they can and the RCR just keeps getting better. It's close to home for the second year in a row and I think it will move significantly further away next year so I'm going to be sure to catch it. Justin, if you want to organize a DC-Cycles group ride for those of us going, I would be pleased to join you. Bill McLoone '82 Susuki GS-450TXz (SOLD) '81 Yamaha XS-11H (50% mine) Burtonsville, MD USA '82 Kawasaki KZ-750E (all mine) 1-800-AMA-JOIN BK-MD I "Ride with Pride" From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 11:05:38 1996 Subject: PARR Poker Run From: crose@XXXXXX (Caron Rose) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 22 Apr 96 10:39:30 -0400 X-Mailer: MAILworks 1.7-A-1 Ok - So did anyone do this yesterday? Roy and I did, and it was pretty good. Not as good as some, better than others. I took low hand, so that gets me free admission to the next run. Mr Bill - I didn't see you . Were you not there, or did I just miss you? I was gonna wear my Denizen 'colors' but um.. I seem to have outgrown... I mean it seems to have shrunk .. yeah that 's it. It shrunk... Caron From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 11:11:09 1996 From: Hal@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:10:37 -0400 To: wjm1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RCR-V The RCR is probably one of the biggest internet biker event on the east coast. Last year I believe it drew near 100 participants. Those I know that have been before, always return if they can and the RCR just keeps getting better. It's close to home for the second year in a row and I think it will move significantly further away next year so I'm going to be sure to catch it.>>>> I am wondering what the schedule of events is (aside from eating and drinking) in case some of us wanted to come up just for a day or riding and bullshitting... Hal Burke, VA '95 BMW R1100GSA (Yet to be named) From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 11:14:24 1996 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:14:18 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: richwest@XXXXXX (Rich Westbrook) Subject: New Honda VFR I am now the proud new owner of a 95 Honda VFR. Thanks to all of you who gave me advice months back on what to get. Also thanks for the tips on getting the bike back to DC from Pittsburgh. I finally got a Uhaul truck and tied it down in the back. If I had palnned ahead I obviously could have done this a lot easier. BTW when I talked to my insurance company they told me that I was covered under my present motorcycle insurance. I presently only have liability so if something happened to the bike I would have been SOL. The new bike rides like a dream. It is quite a bit different from my 84 Honda Magna but after a few minutes I pretty much had it figured out. It is also ver very easy to go very very fast. The bigest difference is the amount of wind you feel. On the old bike you could really feel it if you you going 60mph. On the VFR you are much more protected from the wind so you don't feel the speed as much. I am practicing my speech already "Yes officer, I know I was going too fast but,...." Would anyone like to get together for a ride next weekend? Just a day trip on Sat. or Sun. I have no plans I am just throwing out the idea. Also is any one interseted in buying a 1984 Honda Magna 750 with about 26k. It has a problem with 6th gear but I put 4000 miles on it last year without 6th gear and never had a problem. Cosmetically it is in good shape, the seat has a couple tears in it but other that that people are amazed that it is a 12 year old bike. I am asking $1200 for it. If you are interested or know anyone who is e-mail me or call me at (703) 525-5285. Ask for Rich. Thanks agian for all your help. This mail list is a great source of information. Rich From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 11:34:41 1996 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:32:57 -0400 From: Warren Weiss Subject: Re: PARR Poker Run In-Reply-To: crose@mail03.mitre.org (Caron Rose) "PARR Poker Run" (Apr 22, 10:39am) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 06sep94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > Subject: PARR Poker Run > Ok - So did anyone do this yesterday? How does one get on the PARR mailing list? -- ************************************************************************ Warren W. Weiss VMI '87 wweiss@XXXXXX AMA # 409056 weiss@XXXXXX Hughes Information Technology Company Ride: '85 VF700F Interceptor Upper Marlboro, MD Deus Ex Machina Think For Yourself and Question Authority Anonymous ************************************************************************ From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 11:46:22 1996 Subject: Re: PARR Poker Run From: crose@XXXXXX (Caron Rose) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 22 Apr 96 11:45:54 -0400 X-Mailer: MAILworks 1.7-A-1 > > > Subject: PARR Poker Run > > Ok - So did anyone do this yesterday? > >How does one get on the PARR mailing list? You go to one of their runs, and fill out the registration form. Then they send you a card before each run. I believe the next one is in May sometime. They have changed their schedule. They used to do June, but now they do it in May. I'll check the card at home and post the info. Caron >************************************************************************ >Warren W. Weiss VMI '87 wweiss@XXXXXX >AMA # 409056 weiss@XXXXXX > Hughes Information Technology Company From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 11:52:30 1996 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 08:52:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Justin V. Laubach" Subject: Re: RCR-V In-reply-to: <960422111037_475368910@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: Hal@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT from, Justin V. Laubach (JLaubach@XXXXXX) On Mon, 22 Apr 1996 Hal@XXXXXX wrote: > > I am wondering what the schedule of events is (aside from eating and > drinking) in case some of us wanted to come up just for a day or riding and > bullshitting... > I agree with Hal. I would actually prefer to just go up for the day and do some riding or whatever and then come back that evening. Justin 92 Yamaha Seca II From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 12:05:01 1996 From: jimi@XXXXXX X-Authentication-Warning: clark.net: jimi owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 12:04:41 -0400 (EDT) To: "Justin V. Laubach" cc: Hal@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RCR-V In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 22 Apr 1996, Justin V. Laubach wrote: > I agree with Hal. I would actually prefer to just go up for the day and > do some riding or whatever and then come back that evening. > > Justin > 92 Yamaha Seca II If you do this, you really miss out. The RCR is best experienced in it's entirety. I went last year for the first time and had a blast. The roads are good, and the sport ride was brilliant, do mostly to the man who designed and orchistrated it. Great roads, good people, decent acommidations, good food, good beer. And MUFFY! It's $25 bucks, and you have a blast for the whole weekend. You can't beat that anywhere. -jimi 96 Ducati M900 86 Yamaha FJ1200 From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 12:49:34 1996 From: Hal@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 12:49:03 -0400 To: jimi@XXXXXX, jlaubach@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RCR-V Muffy? What the heck is Muffy? Hal McCabe Burke, VA 1995 BMW R1100GSA From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 13:22:18 1996 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 13:21:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Morris Berman X-Sender: morris@geni34 To: Hal@XXXXXX Cc: jimi@XXXXXX, jlaubach@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RCR-V In-Reply-To: <960422124902_475428370@emout16.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII AHHHHHHHHHHH, It's getting hot in here! Suffice it to say that Muffy is a CLOSE friend of Martyn. On Mon, 22 Apr 1996 Hal@XXXXXX wrote: > Muffy? What the heck is Muffy? > > Hal McCabe > Burke, VA > 1995 BMW R1100GSA > -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, morris@XXXXXX MSB, PFD, WTD, ARL <-- Obviously a Government Employee Yamaha XJ550M [Yorick] (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 13:27:41 1996 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 13:15:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: cherylg@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Hal@XXXXXX From: cherylg Subject: Re: RCR-V Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX At 12:49 PM 4/22/96 -0400, you wrote: >Muffy? What the heck is Muffy? > Isnt that one of those fuzzy things you put your hands in to keep them warm???? __________________________________________________________ Cheryl-squeakers-ME! I am NOT too short...You're just too tall! ( did I mention that I like to bite? ) cherylg@XXXXXX http://www.bgcc.com/~cherylg/pat3.html '96 red Hugger '82 kz550c From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 13:46:13 1996 From: "McLoone, William J." To: DC-Cycles List Subject: Re: RCR-V Date: Mon, 22 Apr 96 13:37:00 EST Encoding: 17 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 >> I am wondering what the schedule of events is (aside from eating and >> drinking) in case some of us wanted to come up just for a day or riding and >> bullshitting... >I agree with Hal. I would actually prefer to just go up for the day and >do some riding or whatever and then come back that evening. I don't know, maybe Mr. Bill can chime in. How about it Mr. Bill, do you have a tentative schedule yet. Bill McLoone '82 Susuki GS-450TXz (SOLD) '81 Yamaha XS-11H (50% mine) Burtonsville, MD USA '82 Kawasaki KZ-750E (all mine) 1-800-AMA-JOIN BK-MD I "Ride with Pride" From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 15:26:41 1996 From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Date: 23 Apr 96 03:29:00 -0400 To: "'DC Cycles'" Original-From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Original-To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: RCR-V Original-Date: Tue Apr 23 03:29 EDT 1996 Encoding: 15 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Content-Type: text Jimi wrote: >Great roads, good people, decent acommidations, good food, >good beer. And MUFFY! It's $25 bucks, and you have a blast >for the whole weekend. You can't beat that anywhere. $25 for food, beer and MUFFY!!! Damn what a deal!!! Be careful though Jimi, that cheap MUFF could come back to haunt ya! Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC AMA #609423 // klhawkins@XXXXXX '95 900CR (Desmo) // '93 GTS1000 (RADD Boy) From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 15:39:45 1996 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 15:39:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Lee X-Sender: kmlee@mail To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: help w/ a Hawk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey people, I've got a friend who owns an '89 Hawk GT and he's having some problems with his clutch. Symptoms are as follows... - Clutch lever, when pulled in, will not dissengage from the motor so the back wheel continues to turn - Clutch cable was replaced and tightened repeatedly - Funny thing is he can still ride and shift gears - The above symptoms were observed while the bike was on its center stand Any clues out there? I thought perhaps it may have something to do w/ his plates(???). He'd appreciate any help he can get before having to dish out big bucks and take it into the dealer. TIA. Michael "Kill" Lee 95 Ducati 900CR From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 15:58:21 1996 From: Matt Bennett Subject: Re: help w/ a Hawk To: kmlee@XXXXXX (Michael Lee) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 15:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: from "Michael Lee" at Apr 22, 96 03:39:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Lee writes: > > Hey people, > I've got a friend who owns an '89 Hawk GT and he's having some problems > with his clutch. Symptoms are as follows... > - Clutch lever, when pulled in, will not dissengage from the motor so the > back wheel continues to turn > - Clutch cable was replaced and tightened repeatedly > - Funny thing is he can still ride and shift gears > - The above symptoms were observed while the bike was on its center stand > > Any clues out there? I thought perhaps it may have something to do w/ his > plates(???). He'd appreciate any help he can get before having to dish > out big bucks and take it into the dealer. TIA. If everything works fine, but it just rotates with almost no torque while on the centerstand, there is no problem. The Hawk has a wet clutch, so the viscosity of the oil will transfer a little of the rotation between the clutch plates. This concerned me when I had a Seca 550, but now I have a BMW (with a dry clutch) which does not have this problem. ----------------------------- Matt Bennett | mjb@XXXXXX | http://www.hazmat.com/~mjb/ | From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 16:55:36 1996 From: THOMASONCO@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 16:54:59 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Used Bikes >Rich West asked ... > Buying a used bike? There is no easy answer to your question. I purchased a car in sunny Florida a couple years ago. Their local DMV provided me a temporary, 30 day tag. That ended all the problems for the drive back. One issue, some states require notorized signature(s) on the title for transfer. You need to check that out before you go, otherwise you will have a waisted trip. It's not legal to ride, drive, truck, trail, boat or fly on anyone else's plates. The simplest solution is to take a set of plates, hopefully your own, with you and ride them back. However, you do want a signed title and signed bill of sale. If you get stopped the title and bill of sale will be you best documents. Dallas From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 19:28:46 1996 X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 19:26:16 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: help w/ a Hawk At 03:39 PM 4/22/96 -0400, Michael Lee wrote: >Hey people, >I've got a friend who owns an '89 Hawk GT and he's having some problems >with his clutch. Symptoms are as follows... >- Clutch lever, when pulled in, will not dissengage from the motor so the >back wheel continues to turn Clutch needs replacing most likely. Stephen Stephen Taylor Harris http://www.his.com/~harris/index.htm From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 19:31:01 1996 From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: PARR Poker Run To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 19:30:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Ok - So did anyone do this yesterday? > > Roy and I did, and it was pretty good. Not as good as some, better than > others. I took low hand, so that gets me free admission to the next run. I did it too. I was the one who got the 3rd place trophy for AMA Solo. Then when the 2nd place winner was a no-show, got bumped up, got the 2nd place trophy, then when the 1st place winner didn't show, finally got bumped up to 1st place. I noticed after that, they awarded the trophies in 1st, 2nd, 3rd place order! The roads they picked were really nice. I especially like 600, Zepp Road all the way out near West Virginia. (The longer option) Went up the side of a mountain. I had to pull over 'cuz when I was looking to the right to look at the view, the bike started going to the right, and well, it was a LONG way down!! Previously, I've ridden in a small group, including with Mr. Bill. This time I wound up going alone, although I wound up behind a few people on the second leg of the trip. I noticed the difference when you aren't with a group, I'm able to set my own pace. I don't have to play the "catch up" game, since I'm still a little slow on curves. Still, it's also nice riding with other people so if one person makes a mistake in the directions, if the others are paying attention, it's not a problem. The next PARR Poker Run is Saturday May 11th. It's a charity poker run, in conjunction with the Law Ride that will be on Sunday. The poker run will leave from Coleman's Powersport in Falls Church. Hope they get a good turn out. And hope you get a better hand! (hey, I won with only a pair of 9's) Louis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Caplan | louis@XXXXXX Alexandria, VA | '84 Honda Nighthawk-S 700SC DoD #1754 | No fancy quotations, yet!!! From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 21:30:50 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 01:30:47 GMT From: leavitt@XXXXXX (Mr. Bill) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: PARR Poker Run crose@XXXXXX (Caron Rose) writes: > Ok - So did anyone do this yesterday? Mr Bill - I didn't see you. > Were you not there, or did I just miss you? No, I wasn't there. :-( I was planning on going, but there are just too many things staring me in the face the next couple months. I spent most of the day getting the CX500 and H2 ready for inspection later this week. I did get the H2 out for a nice 2-smoking blast in the country, tho' far too short... "Louis F. Caplan" writes: > I did it too. I was the one who got the [1st] place trophy for AMA Solo. Hey, congrats! > Previously, I've ridden in a small group, including with Mr. Bill. > This time I wound up going alone, ... I don't have to play the "catch up" > game, since I'm still a little slow on curves. Sorry 'bout that. :-} (I've usually been on point on the rides I've done with Louis in the past). You'll be rubbing my rear tire soon, no doubt! > The next PARR Poker Run is Saturday May 11th. It's a charity poker run, > in conjunction with the Law Ride that will be on Sunday. I'm probably going to miss that one, also. :-( I'll be busy getting my Karmann-Ghia convertible ready for the Bug-Out on Memorial Day Sunday, packing for the Spring Fling and prepping materials for an ASTM conference all about that same time. Not to mention getting things together for RCR. Like I said, I'm a busy boy until sometime after the July 4th. Hopefully I'll make the next run after that. Mr. Bill -- Bill Leavitt leavitt@XXXXXX | "Blow it out your ass, motorcycle man! AMA, ICOA, Lemans, KTC, DoD #0224 | I am THE DEVIL, do you UNDERSTAND?" HON: 82 CBX, 79 CX500C KAW: 72 H2 |________--Frank Zappa, "Titties & Beer" SUZ: 82 GS850G, 76 RE5, 75 RE5, 75 RE5, 73 GT380 "More bikes than brains!" From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 21:35:26 1996 X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 21:36:43 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: help w/ a Hawk At 03:39 PM 4/22/96 -0400, Michael Lee wrote: >Hey people, >I've got a friend who owns an '89 Hawk GT and he's having some problems >with his clutch. Symptoms are as follows... You might have warped plates. It would be best tp check them, and look for any other problems while you're in there. rich From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 21:45:35 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 01:45:34 GMT From: leavitt@XXXXXX (Mr. Bill) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RCR-V Hal@XXXXXX writes: > I am wondering what the schedule of events is (aside from eating and > drinking) in case some of us wanted to come up just for a day or riding and > bullshitting... Bill McLoone replies: > I don't know, maybe Mr. Bill can chime in. How about it Mr. Bill, do you > have a tentative schedule yet. The general course and drift in years past is that people start cruising in Friday afternoon/night, set up (house|tent)keeping, go out in various groups for dinner someplace, benchrace, etc. Saturday morning (9-10ish) various folks get together for rides. They were catch-can the first few years, but folks have started forming real scenic rides, sport-tour rides, etc. Planning is taking place on the EAST list. Mid-late afternoon they cruise back to camp. More folks dribble in as the day goes on. Everybody has dinner (6:30-8:00 this year), there is an awards ceremony ("Cruelest Bike", "Bike Most Unlikely to Make it Home", etc :-) then a grand gather and general bullshit and benchrace session to the wee small hours of the morning. Sunday morning, try to pour life into the participants, last few awards ("Best Nocturnal Noises", "Keeper of the HangOver"), folks start to head for home. The only thing about the sched that's fixed is the dinner Saturday night, as it's being catered. If folks who are sufficiently local only want to come up for the ride Saturday and the dinner, I'm sure we can work something out. If you plan to stay for the party (esp. if consuming the fine assortment of frosty barley & hop beverages I'm going to lay in ;-) I'd suggest staying over at least Saturday night. I strongly encourage that you make as much of the event as possible. As one of the few who has attended every RCR thusfar, it is a much better time than any other rally or club-style event I've ever been to (except possibly for the Spring Flings, a very close second). Mr. Bill -- Bill Leavitt leavitt@XXXXXX | "Blow it out your ass, motorcycle man! AMA, ICOA, Lemans, KTC, DoD #0224 | I am THE DEVIL, do you UNDERSTAND?" HON: 82 CBX, 79 CX500C KAW: 72 H2 |________--Frank Zappa, "Titties & Beer" SUZ: 82 GS850G, 76 RE5, 75 RE5, 75 RE5, 73 GT380 "More bikes than brains!" From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 22 22:05:38 1996 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 19:04:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Justin V. Laubach" Subject: Spring Maintenance To: DC Cycles MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT As I prepare for spring, I was left with two questions about service that I'm not sure about. 1) Brake Fluid: Does it really need to be changed as long as brake performance is good? Can I just fill it up to the proper level and leave it? How often should the fluid be bled and replaced? What happens if this is not done frequently enough? 2) Fork Oil: I helped my brother change the fork oil on his XR 100 dirtbike (150 lbs) and it was miserable. We broke one of the fork seals and scratched up his fork. Needless to say, it was a really miserable experience. On my 600 cc (450 lb) streetbike, how often should I do it? Any problems if I don't? How much would a shop charge to do this? etc... Thanks in advance for the help. BTW, I am mechanically inept. The first couple days after I got my bike I had to change an instrument bulb. In the process of doing this I made it too tight and broke the part that connects my instrument panel to the frame (this part costs $800-). The shop guy safety wired it together and it works fine. I just find repairs and work to be frustrating and difficult because I don't really know what I'm doing and I've never done it before. sorry for the tirade.... from, Justin V. Laubach (JLaubach@XXXXXX) 92 Yamaha Seca II From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 01:27:13 1996 From: "James L. Williams" To: DC Cycles Subject: RE: Spring Maintenance Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 01:27:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1) Brake Fluid: Does it really need to be changed as long as brake=20 performance is good? Can I just fill it up to the proper level and = leave=20 it? How often should the fluid be bled and replaced? What happens if=20 this is not done frequently enough? The brake fluid will crystalize. Looks ugly and can gum up the works. = I used to replace it every other race weekend on my TZ until I = discovered synthetic. I would say at least every 10,000 mi on a street = bike. More often if you leave the bike outside all year or you let it = sit for a long time. 2) Fork Oil: I helped my brother change the fork oil on his XR 100=20 dirtbike (150 lbs) and it was miserable. We broke one of the fork seals = and scratched up his fork. Needless to say, it was a really miserable=20 experience. On my 600 cc (450 lb) streetbike, how often should I do it? = =20 Any problems if I don't? How much would a shop charge to do this? = etc... The oil is forced through valves as you compress and extend the forks = (and rear shock). This breaks down the oil molecules and the oil will = turn gray and start to smell bad. I like to replace my fork oil (and = rebuild the rear shock) at least every 6000 miles (10,000 if you don't = ride in DC very often). If your not comfortable doing these things your self I would bring it to = a shop. I send my stuff out to Lindemann engineering in CA. They do a = great job. =20 Jim Williams Thanks in advance for the help. BTW, I am mechanically inept. The first couple days after I got my bike = I had to change an instrument bulb. In the process of doing this I made = it too tight and broke the part that connects my instrument panel to the = frame (this part costs $800-). The shop guy safety wired it together = and=20 it works fine. I just find repairs and work to be frustrating and=20 difficult because I don't really know what I'm doing and I've never done = it before. sorry for the tirade.... from,=20 Justin V. Laubach (JLaubach@XXXXXX) 92 Yamaha Seca II From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 07:41:13 1996 From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Date: 23 Apr 96 19:44:00 -0400 To: "'DC Cycles'" Original-From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Original-To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Used Bikes Original-Date: Tue Apr 23 19:44 EDT 1996 Encoding: 17 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Content-Type: text Dallas writes: >It's not legal to ride, drive, truck, trail, boat or fly on anyone else's >plates. The simplest solution is to take a set of plates, hopefully your >own, with you and ride them back. It's legal to use their plates if the vehicle is loaned to you by them. You simply use their plates till you get home and mail them back. It IS illegal to use plates registered to one vehicle on another vehicle. Kevin From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 07:55:35 1996 From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Date: 23 Apr 96 19:58:00 -0400 To: "'DC Cycles'" Original-From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Original-To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: help w/ a Hawk Original-Date: Tue Apr 23 19:58 EDT 1996 Encoding: 15 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Content-Type: text At 03:39 PM 4/22/96 -0400, Michael Lee wrote: >Hey people, >I've got a friend who owns an '89 Hawk GT and he's having some problems >with his clutch. Symptoms are as follows... >- Clutch lever, when pulled in, will not dissengage from the motor so the >back wheel continues to turn Stephen Taylor Harris responds: > Clutch needs replacing most likely. A simple answer from a man who knows motorcycles. Kevin From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 08:17:38 1996 Subject: Re: PARR Poker Run From: crose@XXXXXX (Caron Rose) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 96 08:16:20 -0400 X-Mailer: MAILworks 1.7-A-1 Louis writes: >I did it too. I was the one who got the 3rd place trophy for AMA Solo. Then >when the 2nd place winner was a no-show, got bumped up, got the 2nd place >trophy, then when the 1st place winner didn't show, finally got bumped up >to 1st place. I noticed after that, they awarded the trophies in 1st, 2nd, >3rd place order! Oh yeah! I remember you! That was funny! I don't know if you remember the guy that was yelling and hooting you on while you were moving up the trophy pole, but if you do, I was the one standing right next to him. We were with a smallish group with a harley, a yamaha, something else??, a suzi gs500, shadow, rebel and a goldwing. There was a couple in our group that were wearing tie dye daytona shirts. >The roads they picked were really nice. I especially like 600, Zepp Road >all the way out near West Virginia. (The longer option) Went up the side of >a mountain. I had to pull over 'cuz when I was looking to the right to look >at the view, the bike started going to the right, and well, it was a LONG >way down!! Yep - going up that mountain was interesting. Especially those two turns that started out high, the dipped in the middle, and then came back up again. I did a nice 'pucker' on one of those. And yes, it was a LONG way down. I tell ya, though, I'd rather go up a mountain than down a mountain. I really hate going down those curves. >able to set my own pace. I don't have to play the "catch up" game, since >I'm still a little slow on curves. Still, it's also nice riding with other >people so if one person makes a mistake in the directions, if the others >are paying attention, it's not a problem. I prefer riding with a group simply because I don't have to constantly look down for the directions. It's only a problem when you get stuck behind a particularly slow group. Caron From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 08:28:00 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 08:28:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "David O'Neill" To: Rich Westbrook cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New Honda VFR In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 09:21:15 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 09:21:03 -0400 (EDT) From: DMG To: "Hawkins, Kevin" cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Used Bikes In-Reply-To: <317CC1CA@hrfocus.cdesign> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > It's legal to use their plates if the vehicle is loaned to you by them. > You > simply use their plates till you get home and mail them back. It IS > illegal > to use plates registered to one vehicle on another vehicle. This is simply not true.. Sorry.. It depends on the state which you are in. Im Maryland, plates are NON TRANSFERABLE. Period. If you buy a bike from someone else, the plates must be removed and taken back to the MVA ASAP. You may not "Loan" them to someone else for the ride home. But they can go get plates from the MVA after they have A: the vin, B: Title, C: Insurance.. But you HAVE to have all that before you ride the bike.. From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 10:19:37 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 10:19:41 -0400 X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "'DC Cycles'" From: Leon Begeman Subject: RE: Used Bikes OK. Enough of the rumors and guesses. According to the assistant manager for the MVA at Waldorf,MD, you can get a 15 day temporary tag to move the vehicle to get it inspected, etc. by bringing the title (signed over to you) to the MVA office (I didn't ask about insurance). It is not legal to ride it with the old owners plates after the title is signed over. It is not legal to ride it with plates from another vehicle. A couple of ways to make it legal if you don't trust each other are 1) bring a truck or 2) leave a friend to watch the bike while you go to MVA to get the temporary plate. > >>It's not legal to ride, drive, truck, trail, boat or fly on anyone >else's >>plates. The simplest solution is to take a set of plates, hopefully >your >>own, with you and ride them back. > >It's legal to use their plates if the vehicle is loaned to you by them. >You >simply use their plates till you get home and mail them back. It IS >illegal >to use plates registered to one vehicle on another vehicle. > Leon. mrider@XXXXXX begeman@XXXXXX 1983 Honda CX650C 124Kmiles 1983 Honda GL650I 73Kmiles 1978 Honda CB400A 16Kmiles From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 10:32:30 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 14:32:29 GMT From: leavitt@XXXXXX (Mr. Bill) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Used Bikes Hope I got the attributes right... :-} "Hawkins, Kevin" writes: > It's legal to use their plates if the vehicle is loaned to you by them. > You simply use their plates till you get home and mail them back. It IS illegal to use plates registered to one vehicle on another vehicle. DMG replies: > This is simply not true.. Sorry.. It depends on the state which you are in. > Im Maryland, plates are NON TRANSFERABLE. Period. If you buy a bike from > someone else, the plates must be removed and taken back to the MVA ASAP. It depends on what you call ASAP... :-) Even tho' the title is signed over to you, the title still belongs to the seller until you file for a new one, as do the tags and insurance (so long as the seller doesn't cancel it right away). At this point, you're basically riding this other chap's motorcycle from his house to yours. It really doesn't become *your* motorcycle and hence invalidating the tags until you file for a new title, or he cancels out his insurance. > You may not "Loan" them to someone else for the ride home. But they can > go get plates from the MVA after they have A: the vin, B: Title, C: > Insurance.. ...and a valid Maryland state inspection, which you cannot get in Pennsylvania. > But you HAVE to have all that before you ride the bike.. Nasty Catch-22, eh? Mr. Bill -- Bill Leavitt leavitt@XXXXXX | "Blow it out your ass, motorcycle man! AMA, ICOA, Lemans, KTC, DoD #0224 | I am THE DEVIL, do you UNDERSTAND?" HON: 82 CBX, 79 CX500C KAW: 72 H2 |________--Frank Zappa, "Titties & Beer" SUZ: 82 GS850G, 76 RE5, 75 RE5, 75 RE5, 73 GT380 "More bikes than brains!" From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 10:59:15 1996 From: Matt Bennett Subject: Re: Used Bikes To: leavitt@XXXXXX (Mr. Bill) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 10:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199604231432.OAA03498@nemo.cs.UMD.EDU> from "Mr. Bill" at Apr 23, 96 02:32:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mr. Bill writes: > > You may not "Loan" them to someone else for the ride home. But they can > > go get plates from the MVA after they have A: the vin, B: Title, C: > > Insurance.. > > ...and a valid Maryland state inspection, which you cannot get in > Pennsylvania. > > > But you HAVE to have all that before you ride the bike.. > > Nasty Catch-22, eh? You can get plates with just the title and insurance, you need to file for a temporary inspection waiver. This is how I got my (motorcycle hauling) truck. My brother bought it in Oregon, sent me the signed title and bill of sale, I took that to the MVA with the insurance info, and got plates. I mailed the plates to Oregon, and he put them on the truck and drove it back here. I had to get it inspected before the due date, but once I mailed the inspection form in, I was good to go. (this is the case for MD, by the way) ----------------------------- Matt Bennett | mjb@XXXXXX | http://www.hazmat.com/~mjb/ | From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 13:42:15 1996 From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Date: 24 Apr 96 00:12:00 -0400 To: "'DC Cycles'" Original-From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Original-To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Used Bikes Original-Date: Wed Apr 24 00:12 EDT 1996 Encoding: 28 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Content-Type: text >> It's legal to use their plates if the vehicle >> is loaned to you by them. You simply use >> their plates till you get home and mail them >> back. It IS illegal to use plates registered to >> one vehicle on another vehicle. >This is simply not true.. Sorry.. It depends on the >state which you are in. In Maryland, plates are >NON TRANSFERABLE. Period. If you buy a bike from >someone else, the plates must be removed and taken >back to the MVA ASAP. What I was trying to get across is that you finish the sale of the bike and explain to the seller what a pain the ass it is to legally ride it home. Tell him that you would like to use the plates to ride home (technically illegal), and if you get pulled over, explain to the police that you are riding the bike with the permission of the owner. The registration and matching tags are still on the bike. The fact that the bike is already sold is known only to you and the seller. If the cop calls the owner, he simply verifies your story. Ass covered. When you get home, mail him the plates and registration. The original posting mentioned taking plates that already belong to you and placing them on the new bike. This is illegal too, and if the cop does any close looking, "Yo in a heap o' trouble boay" Kevin From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 14:40:39 1996 Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 96 14:35:39 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 14:35:22 -0400 From: B.Elwell@XXXXXX (Bill Elwell) Subject: RE: Used Bikes To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Kevin writes: >Tell (the seller) that you would like to use the plates to ride home >(technically illegal), and if you get pulled over, explain to the >police that you are riding the bike with the permission of the owner. >The registration and matching tags are still on the bike. The fact >that the bike is already sold is known only to you and the seller. If >the cop calls the owner, he simply verifies your story. Ass covered. >When you get home, mail him the plates and registration. I used this method to buy a used car a few years ago. I was pulled over with the previous owner's plates on the car. I explained that I was driving a friend's car. The cop checked it out and everyone was happy. In an earlier message, Leon outlined the method that Maryland DMV wants you to used to purchase and transport a used vehicle. Leon said, "you can get a 15 day temporary tag to move the vehicle ... by bringing the title to the MVA office." I have called Virginia DMV and they do not offer the 15 day tag option. In either case, the "official" procedure is not practical. This is especially true if you are buying a vehicle from outside the immediate area. As is always the case, I am not advocating that anyone break the law! Bill Elwell b.elwell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 15:30:17 1996 From: aki.damme@XXXXXX Date: 23 Apr 96 15:25:58 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Used Bikes In-Reply-To: <17d22d10@ccmail.mi04.zds.com> I know that when I worked for Va. DMV, the standard line was "buy the vehicle, have the title signed and bring the title to DMV for registration". I know at one time, we could issue a 24 hour temp tag to transport the vehicle into state but I don't know if they do that anymore. Either way, you HAD to PROVE you owned the vehicle. Offline, it wasn't uncommon to have the previous owner just let the new owner use the plates to transport the vehicle into state. I did this once, but I made the new owner sign a statement basically to the effect that the transfer of ownership would occur once the new owner drove the car back to their state and called me. At that time I would fedex the signed over title to them. I also made them sign a form that said that they were "renting" the vehicle from me and had my authorization to transport the vehicle (to PA in this case). It looked to all the world as if he was "renting" the car from me. This covered me from any tickets or criminal activity while they had my car and covered them should they get stopped by an overzealous officer along the way. I also told the guy that I was deregistering the vehicle from Virgina the next day, so he had 24 hours to get the car back before the plates were deactivated. Once he got the car back to his place, he called me that night. The next day, I deregistered my car and sent him the signed over title. I just told him to throw away the plates once he got to his place. cheers, -aki From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 15:49:51 1996 From: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 15:49:19 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Used Bikes My brother in law bought a bike at one dealer in PA and was riding it to another dealer in PA to have it shipped to Iowa (you know how unnecessarily complicated brother in laws are). He rode without plates and I followed him. He stopped for gas and of course he picked the one station that the local cop had chosen to get his donuts. As I was trying to calculate bail the cop listened to his story and said: "No problem, and if you get stopped again here is my business card; tell the next officer I said it was ok for you to ride to your destination". Honest, this really happened. I was stunned. Steve From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 16:16:21 1996 From: sanjay@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Used Bikes To: SRFox@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 16:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <960423154919_520253026@emout12.mail.aol.com> from "SRFox@aol.com" at Apr 23, 96 03:49:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn3.1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > My brother in law bought a bike at one dealer in PA and was riding > it to another dealer in PA to have it shipped to Iowa (you know > how unnecessarily complicated brother in laws are). He rode > without plates and I followed him. He stopped for gas and of course > he picked the one station that the local cop had chosen to get his > donuts. As I was trying to calculate bail the cop listened to his > story and said: "No problem, and if you get stopped again here > is my business card; tell the next officer I said it was ok for > you to ride to your destination". > > Honest, this really happened. I was stunned. the cop probably rides a bike off duty! stranger things have known to happen. scene: me outside a diner in a wee town in south dakota, looking at a map deciding which road to take. donut conneseur comes out of same diner, asks if i need help. look at map and discuss the merits of different roads going west. he points at one road and says 'try this one, hardly one patr^H^H^H^H drives on that road' as my jaw was touching the grouund, i looked up at his face; he grinned and walked away. sanjay -- Sanjay Sinha Resident of Washington D.C. DoD #1224 Statistically speaking, i'm safer in Beirut. CB 650 'The Cow' Standard disclaimers apply. VT 700C 'nonameyet' From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 16:17:16 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 20:17:16 GMT From: leavitt@XXXXXX (Mr. Bill) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Used Bikes Matt Bennett writes: mb> You can get plates with just the title and insurance, you need to file mb> for a temporary inspection waiver. This is how I got my (motorcycle mb> hauling) truck. My brother bought it in Oregon, sent me the signed mb> title and bill of sale, I took that to the MVA with the insurance info, mb> and got plates. I mailed the plates to Oregon, and he put them on the mb> truck and drove it back here. I had to get it inspected before the due mb> date, but once I mailed the inspection form in, I was good to go. It's been a while since I've had this class of plate (will be repeating it soon, I hope). As memory serves, this is more illegal than using the seller's title/tags/insurance to transport the vehicle. I recall that these tags are only good for transporting the vehicle between your home, the repair shop and the inspection station (tho' nobody actually does this). They are not valid outside the state of Maryland, as your home is not (supposedly) outside the state, nor is the inspection station. You might be able to claim the repair shop is, but not in Oregon. ;-) If anybody is really interested, I can update them when I get my 15 day plates in a couple weeks (I think they're good for 21 days now). mb> (this is the case for MD, by the way) be == B.Elwell@XXXXXX (Bill Elwell) writes: be> In an earlier message, Leon outlined the method that Maryland DMV be> wants you to used to purchase and transport a used vehicle. Leon be> said, "you can get a 15 day temporary tag to move the vehicle ... by be> bringing the title to the MVA office." I have called Virginia DMV and be> they do not offer the 15 day tag option. Moot point(s). Mr. Bill -- Bill Leavitt leavitt@XXXXXX | "Blow it out your ass, motorcycle man! AMA, ICOA, Lemans, KTC, DoD #0224 | I am THE DEVIL, do you UNDERSTAND?" HON: 82 CBX, 79 CX500C KAW: 72 H2 |________--Frank Zappa, "Titties & Beer" SUZ: 82 GS850G, 76 RE5, 75 RE5, 75 RE5, 73 GT380 "More bikes than brains!" From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 16:51:26 1996 From: Matt Bennett Subject: Re: Used Bikes To: leavitt@XXXXXX (Mr. Bill) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 16:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199604232017.UAA04840@nemo.cs.UMD.EDU> from "Mr. Bill" at Apr 23, 96 08:17:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mr. Bill writes: > Matt Bennett writes: > mb> You can get plates with just the title and insurance, you need to file > mb> for a temporary inspection waiver. This is how I got my (motorcycle > > It's been a while since I've had this class of plate (will be repeating > it soon, I hope). As memory serves, this is more illegal than using the > seller's title/tags/insurance to transport the vehicle. I recall that > these tags are only good for transporting the vehicle between your home, > the repair shop and the inspection station (tho' nobody actually does > this). They are not valid outside the state of Maryland, as your home > is not (supposedly) outside the state, nor is the inspection station. > You might be able to claim the repair shop is, but not in Oregon. ;-) Nope, these were the real live metal plates, with a valid year sticker and everything. Call up the MVA, thats how I found out this could be done. This was 100% legal, as suggested by the folks at the MVA. Really! The insurance was valid and my brother was on the policy. They just issued a temporary title until the inspection was mailed in. The inspection waiver is good for 90 days, with lotsa trouble if you don't bring get it back to the MVA on time. I did this in 1993, and I don't believe that the laws have changed since. ----------------------------- Matt Bennett | mjb@XXXXXX | http://www.hazmat.com/~mjb/ | From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 17:23:11 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 14:23:50 -0700 X-Sender: nranone2@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: nranone2@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) Subject: Looking for Hard Saddlebags I want to get some hard bags for my 82 Vision. I know they didn't make any specifically for my bike, so I am looking for some generic bags. Does anyone have a set for sale or know where I can get some that wont break me? Nick From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 23 18:28:08 1996 From: sanjay@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Used Bikes To: mjb@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 18:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Cc: leavitt@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199604232051.QAA22785@scdh-99.umd.edu> from "Matt Bennett" at Apr 23, 96 04:51:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn3.1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > it soon, I hope). As memory serves, this is more illegal than using the > > seller's title/tags/insurance to transport the vehicle. I recall that > > these tags are only good for transporting the vehicle between your home, > > the repair shop and the inspection station (tho' nobody actually does > > this). They are not valid outside the state of Maryland, as your home > > is not (supposedly) outside the state, nor is the inspection station. > > You might be able to claim the repair shop is, but not in Oregon. ;-) > > Nope, these were the real live metal plates, with a valid year sticker > and everything. Call up the MVA, thats how I found out this could be > done. This was 100% legal, as suggested by the folks at the MVA. > Really! The insurance was valid and my brother was on the policy. > They just issued a temporary title until the inspection was mailed > in. > > The inspection waiver is good for 90 days, with lotsa trouble if you > don't bring get it back to the MVA on time. I did this in 1993, and > I don't believe that the laws have changed since. i bought a va titled bike about three weeks ago. got the above mentioned real live metal plates, valid year sticker, and a 2.5" x 2.5" paper which says i paid x dollars as registration for 1 year. i was also handed a yellow sheet of paper and was instrcuted to mail my inspection certificate and this paper to the address printed on it, within two months. my title is on hold and wont be sent out till i mail the documents in. i was not given a temp title. sanjay p.s. getting 15 day tags is more expensive as you pay 15 day tag fee on top of everything else. plus two trips to mva. -- Sanjay Sinha Resident of Washington D.C. DoD #1224 Statistically speaking, i'm safer in Beirut. CB 650 'The Cow' Standard disclaimers apply. VT 700C 'nonameyet' From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 24 07:51:55 1996 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 07:51:34 -0400 From: John Schaaf X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a neighbor has a honda 400 ctm for sale. the bike has @12,000 mile, is in showroom condition, new exhaust, new battery. bike is adult owned and garage kept. for the collector, the bike must be seen. asking $950.00 to save bandwidth, if interested e-mail me at us001471@XXXXXX john schaaf '92 viffer -- From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 24 14:58:50 1996 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "DC Cycles" Date: Wed, 24 Apr 96 15:05:09 +0600 Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Chris Norloff's Registered PMMail 1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Spring Maintenance >1) Brake Fluid: Does it really need to be changed as long as brake >performance is good? Can I just fill it up to the proper level and leave >it? How often should the fluid be bled and replaced? What happens if >this is not done frequently enough? Check your service manual for recommended changing times. DOT 3 and 4 brake fluid are hygroscopic (they attract and absorb water, like from condensation). Water makes your brakes spongy, lowers the boiling point (possibly disabling hot brakes), and corrodes the parts of your brake hardware. >2) Fork Oil: I helped my brother change the fork oil on his XR 100 >dirtbike (150 lbs) and it was miserable. We broke one of the fork seals >and scratched up his fork. Needless to say, it was a really miserable >experience. On my 600 cc (450 lb) streetbike, how often should I do it? >Any problems if I don't? How much would a shop charge to do this? etc... My bike has drains for the fork oil. so it's relatively easy. Oh, well. >BTW, I am mechanically inept. Well, maybe you shouldn't work on critical system components like brakes? Do what you do well to earn the money to pay someone to do what you don't do well. Chris Norloff Chris Norloff cnorloff@XXXXXX http://www.os2bbs.com The OS/2 Shareware BBS From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 24 16:44:16 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08237; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 16:44:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from osdsync.osd.mil by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA23374; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 16:44:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from OSDSYNCmssmtp (osdsyncmssmtp.osd.mil [134.152.184.10]) by osdsync.osd.mil (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA02937 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 16:46:30 -0400 Received: by OSDSYNCmssmtp with Microsoft Mail id <317EBC6C@OSDSYNCmssmtp>; Wed, 24 Apr 96 16:42:36 PDT From: "Mantei, Debra, SSg, OSD/C3I" To: "'dc-cycles-info'" Subject: FW: KZ550 LTD FOR SALE Date: Wed, 24 Apr 96 16:37:00 PDT Message-ID: <317EBC6C@OSDSYNCmssmtp> Encoding: 20 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 ---------- From: Mantei, Debra, SSg, OSD/C3I To: dc-cycles-request Subject: KZ550 LTD FOR SALE Date: Wednesday, April 24, 1996 10:36AM Priority: High 1981 KZ550 LTD for sale. It's in good mechanical shape altho it needs new battery. New paint, rebuilt carbs, brand new front tire (I put it on). Must sell w/i two weeks due to personal obligations. Asking $1,000.00 -- is very well maintained and was covered when not in use. Will answer any/all questions you may have. Please contact SSG Debra Mantei at (703) 614-0596/7 or at home 313-7886. My email is debra.mantei@XXXXXX Thanks and pass the word! From dc-cycles-request Wed Apr 24 19:48:08 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA09673; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 19:48:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA10307; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 19:48:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from #nranone2 (ix-dc21-21.ix.netcom.com [205.184.183.117]) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA08471 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 16:44:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 16:44:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199604242344.QAA08471@dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: nranone2@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: nranone2@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) Subject: looking for Greg Neiss Greg Neiss name came up in response to a post I made to rec.moto. He is in charge of the Bull Run Chapter of ABATE. Does anyone have his email address? Nick From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 25 11:37:15 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA16307; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.rmc.com by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA05202; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ns.rmc.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19104; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:25:49 -0400 Received: from internet.rmc.com(137.25.3.24) by ns.rmc.com via smap (V1.3) id sma008600; Thu Apr 25 11:25:49 1996 Received: from factotum.rmc.com by internet.rmc.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14478; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:12:33 -0400 Received: by factotum.rmc.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17441; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:06:15 -0400 From: dpcook@XXXXXX (Dan Cook) Message-Id: <9604251506.AA17441@factotum.rmc.com> Subject: Replacement tires To: motolist@XXXXXX (Motolist), dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:06:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text I'm going to be in the market for a replacement tire for my CBR600f3 soon. At the moment, I'm still running the original stock Battleaxe's front and rear. I would like to retain as much stickiness as possible while getting more than 5000 miles out of a rear tire. Much of my riding is commuting so the tire is getting a bit square. Does anyone have any ideas? uncle dan -- *********************************************************************** Dr. Daniel P. Cook Phone: (804)-788-7512 Reynolds Metals Company Fax: (804)-788-7557 Corporate Research and Development email: dpcook@XXXXXX 4th and Canal St. Richmond, VA 23219 *********************************************************************** From dc-cycles-request Thu Apr 25 16:33:34 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA28777; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gw3.att.com by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09620; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hrfocus!mspo2.UUCP by ig4.att.att.com id AA09581; Thu, 25 Apr 96 16:25:16 EDT From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Date: 26 Apr 96 02:05:00 -0400 To: "'DC Cycles'" Received: from mspo2 by hrfocus; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 14:02 EDT Received: by hrfocus.cdesign with Microsoft Mail id <317FBE1B@XXXXXX>; Thu Apr 25 14:02 EDT 1996 Original-From: "Hawkins, Kevin" Original-To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Replacement tires Original-Date: Fri Apr 26 02:05 EDT 1996 Message-Id: <317FBE1B@hrfocus.cdesign> Encoding: 23 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Content-Type: text Uncle Dan writes: >I'm going to be in the market for a replacement >tire for my CBR600f3 soon. At the moment, I'm >still running the original stock Battleaxe's front >and rear. I would like to retain as much stickiness >as possible while getting more than 5000 miles >out of a rear tire. Much of my riding is commuting >so the tire is getting a bit square. Does anyone >have any ideas? Dunlop D205 Sportmax II Touring! I've got the D204 Sportmax II's on my Ducati and they last about 3,500 miles. A friend of mine switched from the D204's to the D205's and he says he simply can't tell much difference other than he now gets over 4000 from the 205s. BTW, he averaged just over 2300 miles on the two sets of D204s that he owned. Needless to say, he heads for the mountains nearly every weekend. Squidly boy....... Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC AMA #609423 // klhawkins@XXXXXX '95 900CR (Desmo) // '93 GTS1000 (RADD Boy) From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 26 00:02:55 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00558; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 00:02:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA08613; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 00:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA04701; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 23:58:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 23:53:23 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Replacement tires To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <9604251506.AA17441@factotum.rmc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dan, How much do you weigh,do you do burnouts,and have you ever ridden on the track?I had 9k miles on my CBR900RR when I traded it,and it still had the stock BattleAxes.The front was getting near replacement ,but the rear still had another good 2k miles left. I'd go with Dunlops.I've used K591's on some of my old bikes and I've got Sportmaxes on the Buell.I've always like their mileage, grip,and wet weather traction. Psst,hey buddy.Wanna buy a Buell? gnissley@XXXXXX Buell S2 Thunder(un)bolt GATB#1121 "Most problems in life can be fixed with a chainsaw." Bill D. Cat "But pessimism IS realism!" D.L.Bahr "Auto-Darwin the ignorant." D. Sorenson From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 26 00:23:41 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00601; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 00:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA09443; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 00:23:40 -0400 (EDT) From: THOMASONCO@XXXXXX Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA25584 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 00:23:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 00:23:10 -0400 Message-ID: <960426002309_522281387@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: REC MOTO >From time to time I see the mention of posting to rec. moto. What is that? TIA Dallas From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 26 10:37:49 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04073; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:37:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28608; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from erols.com.erols.com (ppp70.erols.com [205.252.17.70]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.7.4/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA29098; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960426144020.006a3884@erols.com> X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:40:20 -0400 To: dpcook@XXXXXX (Dan Cook), motolist@XXXXXX (Motolist), dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles) From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: Re: Replacement tires At 11:06 AM 4/25/96 -0400, Dan Cook wrote: >I'm going to be in the market for a replacement tire for my CBR600f3 >soon. At the moment, I'm still running the original stock Battleaxe's >front and rear. I would like to retain as much stickiness as possible >while getting more than 5000 miles out of a rear tire. Much of my >riding is commuting so the tire is getting a bit square. Does anyone >have any ideas? If you want used race tires come up to Summit Point May 11-12th and you'll have plenty to choose from. You can get them mounted at the track. rich From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 26 10:59:42 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04123; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29561; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:59:41 -0400 (EDT) From: SRFox@XXXXXX Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA10913; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:59:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 10:59:10 -0400 Message-ID: <960426105909_522497187@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sturges@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Replacement tires: race tires NOT In a message dated 96-04-26 10:53:23 EDT, you write: >>I'm going to be in the market for a replacement tire for my CBR600f3 >>soon. At the moment, I'm still running the original stock Battleaxe's >>front and rear. I would like to retain as much stickiness as possible >>while getting more than 5000 miles out of a rear tire. Much of my >>riding is commuting so the tire is getting a bit square. Does anyone >>have any ideas? > > If you want used race tires come up to Summit Point May 11-12th and >you'll have plenty to choose from. You can get them mounted at the track. > >rich When considering used race tires, reflect on this: tread wear is not a reliable indication that the tire is good. What really determines if a race tire is good is good tread AND ESPECIALLY low number of heat cycles. Heat cycles are the key and obviously you cannot tell from looking at the tire. A squid may run five weekends on race tires that look great when he sells them to you, but they are shot and should be destroyed. Steve ex-squid From dc-cycles-request Fri Apr 26 11:14:38 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA04334; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 11:14:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from skippy.umiacs.UMD.EDU by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00503; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 11:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mwunix.mitre.org by skippy.umiacs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA12569; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 11:14:35 -0400 Received: from tgate1 (tgate1.mitre.org [128.29.154.210]) by mwunix.mitre.org (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id LAA23979 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 11:14:32 -0400 Received: from mail03.mitre.org (128.29.250.2) by tgate1.mitre.org (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.60) with SMTP id ; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 11:12:46 -0400 Received: by mail03.mitre.org; (5.65 EXP 2/15/95/1.1.8.2/22Jun94-0628PM) id AA29208; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 11:14:32 -0400 Subject: Funny From: crose@XXXXXX (Caron Rose) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-Id: <960426111430.8155@mail03.mitre.org.0> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 96 11:14:30 -0400 X-Mailer: MAILworks 1.7-A-1 Apologies to those of you who saw this on the other cycle list I posted to.. But I thought you'd get a kick out of it. One of the ladies in my office saw something that she just had to share with me, since she knows I ride a motorcycle. It seems that she was driving to work this morning, and being morning, was not quite 'all there'. We all know how mornings are. Well, she was driving on the freeway, through a construction zone. Two lanes over, there was a jersey wall separating the freeway from the onramp. Past the jersey wall, you could only see the very tops of the cars going by. She happened to glance over, and saw a motorcycle without a rider! She said "And it was tailgaiting a truck!". She said that her heart almost stopped, thinking some poor rider had fallen off his bike! Then the jersey wall ended and she noticed the trailer under the bike.... It gave me a chuckle.. Caron From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 27 22:41:17 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA09659; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 22:41:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vais.net by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA12644; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 22:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [206.43.171.126] by vais.net with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uDLST-000PasC; Sat, 27 Apr 96 21:39 EDT Message-Id: To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Fwd: REC MOTO Date: Sat, 27 Apr 96 22:38:08 -0500 From: Mark Holm and Julie X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 -- [ From: Mark Holm and Julie * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- USENET news group. Often a complete waste of time. Hangout of the DoD and UKMC. ------- FORWARD, Original message follows ------- > Date: Friday, 26-Apr-96 12:23 AM > > From: THOMASONCO@XXXXXX \ America On-Line: (THOMASONCO) > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX \ Internet: (dc-cycles@XXXXXX) > > Subject: REC MOTO > > >From time to time I see the mention of posting to rec. moto. What is that? > > TIA Dallas > > ------- FORWARD, End of original message ------- From dc-cycles-request Sat Apr 27 23:02:50 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA09800; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 23:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA13200; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 23:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from #nranone2 (ix-wbg-va3-19.ix.netcom.com [205.184.195.115]) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA10306 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 20:01:05 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 20:01:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199604280301.UAA10306@dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: nranone2@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: nranone2@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) Subject: 82 Yamaha Maxim 400 wanted I need a parts bike for my 82 Maxim 400. Does anyone know of one I can get CHEAP? Nick From dc-cycles-request Sun Apr 28 21:48:04 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA13233; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA15991; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from erols.com.erols.com (pppc72.erols.com [206.161.73.72]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.7.4/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA20813; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960429014856.0068125c@erols.com> X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 21:48:56 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, race-l@XXXXXX, ex500@XXXXXX, hawk@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: many small parts needed If you have any of the following parts and would like to sell them to a starving racer please respond to sturges@XXXXXX right side front wheel spacer for honda F2 chain guard for Ninja 600 ('87? if it matters) coils plus brackets for EX500 brake caliper for CB-1 rearsets or stock footpegs for CB-1 good frame for EX500 thanks rich From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 29 19:28:30 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA19361; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA06530; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harris.his.com (harris.his.com [205.177.25.196]) by mail.his.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA20248 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:28:27 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960429232541.0070f7a4@mail.his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:25:41 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: race tires NOT At 10:59 AM 4/26/96 -0400, SRFox@XXXXXX wrote: >the key and obviously you cannot tell from looking at the tire. A squid may >run five weekends on race tires that look great when he sells them to you, >but they are shot and should be destroyed. Easy enough to fix. Make sure any tires you buy are purchased from a guy with WHITE number plates with LESS than two digits (or my number, 911..:-) Stephen Harris Stephen Taylor Harris http://www.his.com/~harris/index.htm From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 29 19:43:17 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA19396; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.tagdc.com by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA07142; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:43:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jim@localhost) by home.tagdc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA02451; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:47:29 -0400 (EDT) From: James Williams To: Stephen Harris cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: race tires NOT In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960429232541.0070f7a4@mail.his.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Easy enough to fix. Make sure any tires you buy are purchased from > a guy with WHITE number plates with LESS than two digits (or my number, 911..:-) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Now, would you buy used race tires from a guy with a number like '911'? Number 13 on the other hand... ;^) Jim jim@XXXXXX http://www.13x.com/aod From dc-cycles-request Mon Apr 29 21:50:39 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA19781; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:50:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.erols.com by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA12129; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from erols.com.erols.com (pppc88.erols.com [206.161.73.88]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.7.4/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA12101 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:50:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960430015047.00679fd0@erols.com> X-Sender: sturges@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:50:47 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rich and Leslie Sturges Subject: F2 rear sprocket I have an F2 rear sprocket, stock, looks brand new. I'll give it to the first person who shows up with a 6-pack. rich ps- none of that shitty beer, neither! From dc-cycles-request Tue Apr 30 09:28:33 1996 Received: from mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU by krishna.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23393; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com by mimsy.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA01803; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from #nranone2 (ix-dc17-13.ix.netcom.com [204.32.176.173]) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA09790 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 06:32:41 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 06:32:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199604301332.GAA09790@dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: nranone2@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: nranone2@XXXXXX (Nick Ranone) Subject: Help finding Parts bike I bounced off of a dumpster on a friends 82 Maxim. His front wheel was loose. I need a parts bike to fix it up. The forks are bent and the headlamp is destroyed. Does anyone know of a parts bike that would suffice my repairs? Nick