From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Apr 1 09:45:55 2005 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 06:45:48 -0800 (PST) From: matthew patton Subject: Buell announces full factory support in AMA classes To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX At a packed press conference in Milwaukee at 7:15 this morning, Erik Buell, president of the Buell Motorcycle division announced that the Factory will be putting up 2 million dollars in contingency for AMA classes and running a full factory effort in the Formula Extreme class. When asked by Mindy Le'Joker of American Iron Racer magazine Erik said: "Our dedicated fans and owners have been calling and writing to express their disapproval of our earlier decision. The other day I was informed that Bill Wall of Metallic News, an investment blog, suggested that the Motor Company with it's millions of profits year after year after year from sales of T-shirts and chrome was in danger of being reclassified by Wall Street and the NYSE as a textiles company and maker of trinkets. We obviously need to remind the American public and the world that we are focused on supporting and expanding our customer's desires for 50yr old technology. We are a nastalgia company and our mission is to give our primary demographic, men over 45 with disposable cash, a renewed taste of their 20's." "We also couldn't take the humiliation of having the members of BadWeatherBikers' website pooling their unemployment checks and putting up more contingency money for the '05 season than the factory" he mumbled under his breath. Standing under a magnificent 24ft wide American flag, he continued: "We looked at FX and seeing as how it's a Honda-only game, we decided it was time for the superior might and will power of an American company to show that it can still defeat the Empire of Japan like this great nation did back in 1945." A factory tour after the conference showed highly skilled technicians threading fasteners and spinning wrenches doing final assembly of the company's main product. Along the walls stood shipping containers variously stamped "product of Mexico", "made in China", "Showa Kabushikigaisha" and "producte la Italia". When asked about the international flavor of the components Mr. Buell beamed "We are delighted to be working with so many dedicated partners and suppliers from around the world. Their craftsmanship and volume pricing is what allows us to sell $6000 motorcycles for $10,000 to the buying public." Raja Srnivasan also of American Iron Racer cornered Steve Minor an ex-CCS rider and new factory talent for an exclusive interview. Our photographer, however, was able to snag Mr. Minor's picture as he stood proudly in front of his red, white, and blue 'Screaming Yokel' sponsored bike with yellow #3 number plates. by Kyle Frisk, Milwaukee Chump News; April 1, 2005 pre-press edition From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Apr 1 09:56:25 2005 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:56:21 -0500 From: Robert To: matthew patton Subject: Re: Buell announces full factory support in AMA classes Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Is it April 1 already? Dang... At least the weather shows signs of improvement! On Apr 1, 2005 9:45 AM, matthew patton wrote: > At a packed press conference in Milwaukee at 7:15 this morning, Erik > Buell, president of the Buell Motorcycle division announced that the > Factory will be putting up 2 million dollars in contingency for AMA > classes and running a full factory effort in the Formula Extreme > class. When asked by Mindy Le'Joker of American Iron Racer magazine... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Apr 1 13:32:20 2005 Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:33:02 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: A close shave In honor of the ailing pontiff, I took a ride down Pope's Head Road in Fairfax Station today. Unfortunately, I was stuck behind a slow moving FL plated Saab, and din't feel like passing on double yellow. Eventually we got up to the Fairfax County Parkway which has a left and right turn lane, and a straight lane. Of course the Saab picked straight - the same way I planned to go. On the other side of the parkway, Pope's Head is 2 lanes wide. My plan was to cruise through the intersection and make a safe pass on the other side - legally. The light turned green, we progressed across slowly, and I went to make my pass just across the road when a WRX went by on the right doing well over 60. He had used the intersection to pass us. Had I been a split second later, he would have creamed me at top speed, and I'd be a cropper. After the pass he saw me and waved me in front of him for the rest of Pope's Head. I hadn't been on that section in years, but it is a roller coaster of fun. When we got to the 123 light, the WRX had stuck fairly close to me the whole run. I had him roll up and told him how close he had come to hitting me because he passed in the intersection illegally. It was hard to hear his response through my earplugs, but it sounded like 'oh, don't worry about it." Anyway, let is be known that I checked my mirrors as I pulled out to cross the parkway and no one was behind me. There is a blind curve before the stop about 100 feet back. I should have checked them again 5 seconds later as I went to pass. Someone was looking out for me. If you have to work today, fake a sickness and go for a ride. It is 63F, light breeze and the roads are in good shape. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 AMA - http://www.amadirectlink.com/ NMA - http://www.motorists.org "I'd rather die while I'm living, then live while I'm dead." - Jimmy Buffett From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Apr 1 13:44:18 2005 From: "Sean Steele" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:43:53 -0500 Subject: Seca fix volunteerism (was Re: A close shave) Glad to hear you're OK. That sounds like a real close shave. On a completely unrelated note, anyone interested in some karma boosting? I need a volunteer with tinkering experience and an air compressor to help me -- probably 10 minutes of work -- on two discrete maintenance items for my aged Seca II. Say early tomorrow morning so as not to ruin your day? The bike can't get out on the road until I put the front brakes back together. I've taken it all apart at this point (off the bike) and I need to do two things: 1) "blow out" the pistons in the front brake caliper assembly (I don't have an air compressor) 2) extract the rest of the front master cylinder assembly in order to put a new kit in (I can't for the life of me figure out how to get this one bit freed from the inside of the assembly and it's killing me) I live in Alexandria, but am willing to drive to your garage if you're w/i 30 miles of me. Thanks all. -Sean '92 Seca II Troutman wrote: > In honor of the ailing pontiff, I took a ride down Pope's Head Road in > Fairfax Station today. Unfortunately, I was stuck behind a slow moving > FL plated Saab, and din't feel like passing on double yellow. > Eventually we got up to the Fairfax County Parkway which has a left and > right turn lane, and a straight lane. Of course the Saab picked > straight - the same way I planned to go. On the other side of the > parkway, Pope's Head is 2 lanes wide. My plan was to cruise through the > intersection and make a safe pass on the other side - legally. > > The light turned green, we progressed across slowly, and I went to make > my pass just across the road when a WRX went by on the right doing well > over 60. He had used the intersection to pass us. Had I been a split > second later, he would have creamed me at top speed, and I'd be a cropper. > > After the pass he saw me and waved me in front of him for the rest of > Pope's Head. I hadn't been on that section in years, but it is a roller > coaster of fun. When we got to the 123 light, the WRX had stuck fairly > close to me the whole run. I had him roll up and told him how close he > had come to hitting me because he passed in the intersection illegally. > It was hard to hear his response through my earplugs, but it sounded > like 'oh, don't worry about it." > > Anyway, let is be known that I checked my mirrors as I pulled out to > cross the parkway and no one was behind me. There is a blind curve > before the stop about 100 feet back. I should have checked them again 5 > seconds later as I went to pass. Someone was looking out for me. > > If you have to work today, fake a sickness and go for a ride. It is > 63F, light breeze and the roads are in good shape. > > > _____________________________________ > Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org/vfr > > '97 Honda VFR 750 > AMA - http://www.amadirectlink.com/ > NMA - http://www.motorists.org > > "I'd rather die while I'm living, then live while I'm dead." > - Jimmy Buffett > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Apr 1 15:00:02 2005 Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:00:24 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: Seca fix volunteerism (was Re: A close shave) At 01:43 PM 4/1/05 -0500, Sean Steele wrote: >1) "blow out" the pistons in the front brake caliper assembly (I don't >have an air compressor) Got a spare tire around? Air brush makers sell adapters to hook their air hoses to spare car tires to use as an air source, or maybe you could throw one together with an old bicycle pump hose. The main advantage of the airbrush deals is that they usually include a filter and water trap, but those could be rigged up too. It's limited in capacity, but if you just need to blow out your calipers, that may be enough. You can take the spare to the gas station to refill afterward. Home Despot sells a portable air tank that does the same job...you fill it with a compressor, then take it to where you need some air pressure. I think they run about $30 and come with standard pipe thread couplings for using with standard air hoses and fittings. Tank is about 10 gal size (same as a typical small gym bag) and could probably be strapped to a bike's luggage rack. It's also possible that if you took the part to a service station they'd let you use their air hose to blow it out. I've found places like that to be helpful at that level in the past if asked nicely. Just some ideas in case you don't find any early risers with compressors. If you haven't found a solution by tomorrow afternoon, let me know. I'm planning on sleeping in a bit, but I do have a compressor (near Rockville). Can't help much with the other problem though...you probably know more about it than I do. I've never taken disc brake calipers apart. Now if it was drum brakes... ;-) -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Apr 1 15:00:02 2005 Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 14:48:41 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: A close shave At 01:33 PM 4/1/05 -0500, Troutman wrote: >If you have to work today, fake a sickness and go for a ride. It is 63F, >light breeze and the roads are in good shape. Did that Wednesday, so today I have to finish up some work, but yes, anyone who can, get out there! It's supposed to rain cats and dogs later (flood alerts out already), so watch the sky while you're at it. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Apr 1 15:15:33 2005 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 12:15:22 -0800 (PST) From: Sally Weaver Subject: Motorcycle stuff for sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Chris is selling his Harbor Freight tire changer w/ motorcycle attachment: $50 OBO. Must pick up from our place in Leesburg. Also, A friend is selling his 1992 FZR600 for $1,500. I've not seen it close-up but I suspect it's in good shape as he's real meticulous about his other bikes. Please contact Chris at 703-786-3286 if you're interested or if you'd like more information. Thanks, Sally __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Apr 1 20:03:19 2005 Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 20:09:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Seca fix volunteerism (was Re: A close shave) To: "Sean Steele" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" "Sean Steele" writes: >The bike can't get out on the road until I put the front brakes back >together. I've taken it all apart at this point (off the bike) and I >need to do two things: > >1) "blow out" the pistons in the front brake caliper assembly (I don't >have an air compressor) [snip] The $15 12-volt compressors are low volume but high pressure. They're pretty good for this job IF one of the tips will fit a brake fluid passageway. --garcia From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Apr 2 18:56:01 2005 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 15:55:49 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ray Subject: FS - AGV Imola Jacket To: DC Cycles Leather AGV Sport Jacket - Imola Model, size 48. Black, red, white, and silver. Vest liner. Like new condition. $100 OBO I've had it for a couple years, but only wore it a few times. See the cycleforums ad for pictures. http://www.cycleforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=2302597#post2302597 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 4 12:39:43 2005 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" From: Stephen Miller Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 12:39:58 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] Honda CB550F for sale For sale: 1975 Honda CB550F Supersport for sale. $1000/best offer. Runs well, though a little bit rich. Pics and some info at: http://homepage.mac.com/freecat/PhotoAlbum19.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 4 13:28:08 2005 To: "DC-Cycles" Content-ID: <5244.1112635685.1@XXXXXX> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:28:05 -0400 From: Harry Mantakos Subject: [dc-cycles] Re: Filtering e-mail, was Re:... >... Right now I filter based on looking for "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" >in the TO/CC headers. Once in a while a DC Cycles message slips by >because... The observant will note that, as of yesterday, postings to the list now have a "[dc-cycles]" prepended in the subject line, which you can use for filtering, if you wanna. Personally, I don't think it's really necessary, but it's been frequently requested over the years, and this is the only way I can think of to prevent continued requests. :) -harry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 4 13:34:04 2005 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:33:34 -0400 From: scooterfzr@XXXXXX X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Re: Filtering e-mail, was Re:... To: harry@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Thank you oh wise one. However, I don't filter. At least, not on list. In stopped traffic is a different story though. lol Scooter -----Original Message----- From: Harry Mantakos To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Re: Filtering e-mail, was Re:... >... Right now I filter based on looking for "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" >in the TO/CC headers. Once in a while a DC Cycles message slips by >because... The observant will note that, as of yesterday, postings to the list now have a "[dc-cycles]" prepended in the subject line, which you can use for filtering, if you wanna. Personally, I don't think it's really necessary, but it's been frequently requested over the years, and this is the only way I can think of to prevent continued requests. :) -harry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 4 14:05:47 2005 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:05:57 -0400 From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org \(E-mail\)" Subject: [dc-cycles] Colorado busting left-lane dawdlers http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=639205 Cedric Bernescut 2000 CBR600F4 Annandale, VA From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 4 14:16:54 2005 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:16:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Colorado busting left-lane dawdlers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX That's excellent! If only that would happen here... Glenn --- Cedric Bernescut wrote: > http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=639205 > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 4 14:20:52 2005 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:20:50 -0400 From: Michael Jordan To: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Colorado busting left-lane dawdlers Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > That's excellent! If only that would happen here... It's on the books in Virginny. Get 'em to enforce it. I will say, however, that the 6 months I spent in Denver a couple of years ago were absolutely horrible as far as left lane hogging went. MUCH worse than DC. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 4 14:23:05 2005 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 11:22:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Colorado busting left-lane dawdlers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Yeah I know its on the books its just not enforced. I would agree, I was there in Jan and riding out to the hills people ARE left lane hogs, as bad as Marylanders! ;-) Glenn --- Michael Jordan wrote: > > That's excellent! If only that would happen > here... > > It's on the books in Virginny. Get 'em to enforce > it. > > I will say, however, that the 6 months I spent in > Denver a couple of > years ago were absolutely horrible as far as left > lane hogging went. > MUCH worse than DC. > > Michael J. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 4 14:25:32 2005 From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Colorado busting left-lane dawdlers Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:25:20 -0400 (sigh) Wouldn't that be nice as a National law?! Grrr....daydream over. Rob '98 VFR800 From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Subject: [dc-cycles] Colorado busting left-lane dawdlers Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:05:57 -0400 http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=639205 Cedric Bernescut 2000 CBR600F4 Annandale, VA From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 4 14:44:57 2005 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 14:44:45 -0400 From: Aaron Maurer To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Motorcycle police chase http://www.latimes.com/wireless/avantgo/local/la/la-me-chase2apr02.story Interesting story about a "mysterious" police moto cop chasing a streetbike ... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 4 16:12:37 2005 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:13:07 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Colorado busting left-lane dawdlers At 11:16 AM 4/4/05 -0700, Glenn Dysart wrote: >That's excellent! If only that would happen here... > >Glenn > >--- Cedric Bernescut wrote: >> http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=639205 Be careful what you wish for...remember, if they are out there looking for "left lane dawdlers" they will also be there to ticket left lane lawbreakers of all stripes...like speeders for instance. This also opens yet another "judgement call" area to argue about in court. What is "too congested to pass"? I suspect definitions will vary... -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 4 16:21:00 2005 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:21:16 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Colorado busting left-lane dawdlers At 11:22 AM 4/4/05 -0700, Glenn Dysart wrote: >Yeah I know its on the books its just not enforced. > >I would agree, I was there in Jan and riding out to >the hills people ARE left lane hogs, as bad as >Marylanders! ;-) Difference is that in Maryland it isn't illegal to stay in the left lane...so long as you are doing the speed limit. In Maryland only slower traffic has to keep right...and the law does not recognize traffic that is going the speed limit as "slower". Given that it's at the maximum allowable speed how could it be "slower"? Ok, if the faster traffic has lights and sirens on that's an exception, but that's taken care of in other parts of the law, as is the case where the other traffic doesn't have such permission. It still strikes me as odd that most states have a legal requirement to assist lawbreakers with their lawbreaking by insisting that even maximum legal speed limit traffic move aside to allow lawbreakers room to speed. It's odd, but all but about 4 states seem to do that, Virginia among them. Seems kinda like requiring that you not lock your front door and ticketing you if you do. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 4 16:42:16 2005 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:02:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Wayne Edelen To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Motorcycle police chase On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Aaron Maurer wrote: > http://www.latimes.com/wireless/avantgo/local/la/la-me-chase2apr02.story > > Interesting story about a "mysterious" police moto cop chasing a streetbike ... I'm surprised a police bike can even keep a sportbike in sight. :-) -- Wayne From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 4 16:46:41 2005 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:07:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Wayne Edelen To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Motorcycle police chase On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Wayne Edelen wrote: > On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Aaron Maurer wrote: > > > http://www.latimes.com/wireless/avantgo/local/la/la-me-chase2apr02.story > > > > Interesting story about a "mysterious" police moto cop chasing a streetbike ... > > > I'm surprised a police bike can even keep a sportbike in sight. oops, reading comprehension issues here... it says, "large street bike". I read 'large sport bike'. -- Wayne From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 4 22:32:12 2005 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:32:00 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] jetting info on Katana 600 I thought there was a big forum/website for the Katana but I'm not finding it. A neighbor's buddy has a '99 and it's a mess carbs wise. anyone help? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 5 06:46:12 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 06:45:50 EDT Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Motorcycle police chase To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/4/2005 4:42:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wayne@XXXXXX writes: > I'm surprised a police bike can even keep a sportbike in sight. I am not. In most of the police "dash cam" videos I have seen the rider was such a squid that I could have kept up with him on a bicycle. Of course we only see the ones where the rider get caught... John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 5 11:04:51 2005 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:11:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: suzuki-l@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" Subject: [dc-cycles] soft ride, but a bit down in power... http://www.balloonmagic.com/byothersgallery/pages/motorcycle.htm From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 5 11:24:38 2005 From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] jetting info on Katana 600 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:24:30 -0400 I thought it was katanaplanet.com or similar, but looking at it, the site looks hosed. I had a '92 600 and after the stage 3, it was a pain to keep in tune. Rob '98 VFR800 (FI baby!) From: matthew patton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] jetting info on Katana 600 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:32:00 -0700 (PDT) I thought there was a big forum/website for the Katana but I'm not finding it. A neighbor's buddy has a '99 and it's a mess carbs wise. anyone help? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 5 12:37:55 2005 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:37:46 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Motorcycle police chase At 06:45 AM 4/5/05 EDT, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: >In a message dated 4/4/2005 4:42:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >wayne@XXXXXX writes: > >> I'm surprised a police bike can even keep a sportbike in sight. > >I am not. In most of the police "dash cam" videos I have seen the rider was >such a squid that I could have kept up with him on a bicycle. While the cops are very well trained. Ever seen them in the "police rodeo" games? Impressive skills... >Of course we only see the ones where the rider get caught... Caught by the cop chasing them, yeah. As the old song goes (_Sheriff of Boone County_, by Kenny Price, circa the 70s): "You may outrun my old Chevrolet, but you can't outrun my old 2-way...Leon's waitin' at the station to hear from me..." -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 5 14:29:04 2005 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 11:28:56 -0700 (PDT) From: dcpatti To: DC Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Hit and Run, GA Ave at Upshur Street NW I'm posting this on the off-chance that somebody saw it or hears about somebody who saw it... my buddy got hit-and-runned (hit-and-ran?) at around 12:30 this afternoon at the corner of Georgia Ave and Upshur Street NW. He was driving a brand new, silver R1 and got hit by a black pickup truck that was making a right turn from the center lane (there's a right-turn only lane and that's where my friend was driving). By the time he got back up, the truck had taken off and he didn't get a tag number. Fortunately the rider is just bruised up a little (thanks, Joe Rocket) and the damage to the bike is just cosmetic. If anyone saw this, or knows anyone who did, please let me know. Thanks! Patti __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 5 15:42:46 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: "Mike B." , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Colorado busting left-lane dawdlers Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:42:35 -0400 Man they can ticket you for going too fast, they can ticket you for going too slow. I dunno about all of you but I don't think I can keep my vehicle at exactly 55mph. But then again it's probably not about speed and safety it's about the money. Rob On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:21:16 -0400, Mike B. wrote > At 11:22 AM 4/4/05 -0700, Glenn Dysart wrote: > >Yeah I know its on the books its just not enforced. > > > >I would agree, I was there in Jan and riding out to > >the hills people ARE left lane hogs, as bad as > >Marylanders! ;-) > > Difference is that in Maryland it isn't illegal to stay in the left > lane...so long as you are doing the speed limit. > > In Maryland only slower traffic has to keep right...and the law does > not recognize traffic that is going the speed limit as "slower". > Given that it's at the maximum allowable speed how could it be > "slower"? Ok, if the faster traffic has lights and sirens on that's > an exception, but that's taken care of in other parts of the law, as > is the case where the other traffic doesn't have such permission. > > It still strikes me as odd that most states have a legal requirement > to assist lawbreakers with their lawbreaking by insisting that even maximum > legal speed limit traffic move aside to allow lawbreakers room to speed. > It's odd, but all but about 4 states seem to do that, Virginia among > them. Seems kinda like requiring that you not lock your front door > and ticketing you if you do. > > -- > -- Mike B. > > '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non- > Harley folks) > > Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes > is better. -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 5 16:14:32 2005 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 16:13:28 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: jkop@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Honda Nighthawk 750 for sale For sale: 1992 Honda Nighthawk 750, excellent condition, 23k, windshield, new tires and battery, red, $2,300. Email me back or call Jeff at home at 301-320-8868. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 5 20:31:52 2005 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:32:21 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: [dc-cycles] Accident fun.... I appreciate the advice some others have posted here over the last year or so about how to avoid various sorts of damage and injury on a bike. It's been interesting and I've adopted a fair bit of it, but I'm not sure what could be done to avoid the accident I was subject to an hour and a half ago. If anyone has ideas, I'm happy to hear them. Weather was great, so I decided to go mail my tax returns on the bike, and then go for a ride. I was less than a mile from home, sitting at a traffic light in a residential area, had already done the "watch behind in case someone doesn't stop" thing as described here a couple of times and there were at least three cars stopped behind me, so I shifted attention to the impending green light. I was about third or fourth in line for it and it's short, so I didn't want to delay any more than necessary when traffic started up, when...WHAM!!!!! Loud noise, sudden acceleration, view of the sky, view of the car in front of me as the bike, about half way over already, bumps his bumper. The guy behind me ran into me, and the light wasn't even green... All that stuff about the right way to pick up a dropped bike may be necessary for some, but for me, with an adrenaline rush, and crash and bag bars to act as pivots, I just bent over, grabbed some solid parts and hoisted it back onto its wheels and put the stand down. Didn't even feel heavy (book says about 860 lbs though). Car drivers both unhurt. I've got a goose-egg on my right shin. Ankle was sore immediately after, but settled down in a few minutes. Near as I can tell the goose-egg is from the acorn nut on the bottom of the right mirror. It's the only thing that lines up with my leg swinging up like that, and the size of the impact mark fits. Otherwise nothing seems to be damaged so far. Car damage in front was pretty much non-existent. A black mark on the bumper where the front tire hit. Car doing the pushing had scuff marks, but no obvious other damage. Bike? It will need some new parts (lights and rear sheet metal and maybe an exhaust pipe) and a little paint touch up (small scrape on the front fender). Not sure if the sudden shove has caused any other problems...bike runs, though there's a bit of a strange noise when hitting a bump at 35-40mph. Kind of a whine. Might be the tire making contact with the bent rear fender, or something else. Didn't try to track it down. Called insurance company from the post office parking lot. Driver that hit me has the same insurance company I do...and they've always been really good in the past (USAA). He was on his way to get his income taxes done...said he didn't feel well and probably shouldn't have been driving. Said he wasn't sure what happened...he thinks his foot slipped off the brake. If it did, it landed on the gas, but at least he got off it quickly and didn't keep coming after he hit me. Guy from the car in front had a camera and took some shots and said he'll e-mail them to me later tonight. So, now I wait for the insurance claims adjuster to call (up to two days they say), check my parts catalogue for the prices on the parts I know are history, and try to think if there was anything I could have done differently, and should do differently in future to avoid a repeat. Given that the guy was stopped, and I was stopped, and he was only a bike length or so behind me, I'm not sure I'd have had time to do much of anything even if I'd seen him just as he started to move. Anybody want to offer any advice for a situation like this? Worst part is that now I have a banged up bike just as the weather is turning nice...not sure how long it will take to get it looked over and fixed. If it's just sheet metal and lights, I can replace the parts myself once I get them. If something else is damaged, I might have to wait for the dealer to fix it. Sigh. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 5 20:58:25 2005 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 21:18:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Wayne Edelen To: Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Accident fun.... On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Mike B. wrote: > Worst part is that now I have a banged up bike just as the weather is > turning nice...not sure how long it will take to get it looked over and > fixed. If it's just sheet metal and lights, I can replace the parts myself > once I get them. If something else is damaged, I might have to wait for > the dealer to fix it. Sigh. I'd have a qualified mechanic/shop check out the bike. Lots of other damage may be hiding. Sorry to hear about your accident. Hope everything works out with the insurance. Also, it's good you weren't hurt worse. What gear were you wearing? From the goose-egg injury, it sounds like it was jeans. -- Wayne From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 5 22:56:48 2005 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:56:38 -0400 From: smthng else To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Accident fun.... I agree with Wayne... get it checked out. There's lots of stuff back there (or up front) that could be hosed without you realizing it. Tweaked suspension and swingarm springs immediately to my mind. The other issue you may have if you try to do it yourself is that you may find damage later that you didn't address at the time. It's kind of difficult for you to call the insurance company up and say "I need another couple hundred buck, I missed something". It's no problem for a dealer to do that though. As for how to avoid this one... you could have stayed home. :) There's always stuff that you can't do anything about... that's life. "Anti-bikers" will tell you that if you'd been in a cage, you'd only have a scratched bumper. A real biker would say that you could have been a pedestrian crossing the street, in which case you'd only be in traction. --smthng On Apr 5, 2005 8:32 PM, Mike B. wrote: > > I appreciate the advice some others have posted here over the last year or > so about how to avoid various sorts of damage and injury on a bike. It's > been interesting and I've adopted a fair bit of it, but I'm not sure what > could be done to avoid the accident I was subject to an hour and a half > ago. If anyone has ideas, I'm happy to hear them. > > Weather was great, so I decided to go mail my tax returns on the bike, and > then go for a ride. I was less than a mile from home, sitting at a traffic > light in a residential area, had already done the "watch behind in case > someone doesn't stop" thing as described here a couple of times and there > were at least three cars stopped behind me, so I shifted attention to the > impending green light. I was about third or fourth in line for it and it's > short, so I didn't want to delay any more than necessary when traffic > started up, when...WHAM!!!!! Loud noise, sudden acceleration, view of the > sky, view of the car in front of me as the bike, about half way over > already, bumps his bumper. > > The guy behind me ran into me, and the light wasn't even green... > > All that stuff about the right way to pick up a dropped bike may be > necessary for some, but for me, with an adrenaline rush, and crash and bag > bars to act as pivots, I just bent over, grabbed some solid parts and > hoisted it back onto its wheels and put the stand down. Didn't even feel > heavy (book says about 860 lbs though). > > Car drivers both unhurt. I've got a goose-egg on my right shin. Ankle was > sore immediately after, but settled down in a few minutes. Near as I can > tell the goose-egg is from the acorn nut on the bottom of the right mirror. > It's the only thing that lines up with my leg swinging up like that, and > the size of the impact mark fits. Otherwise nothing seems to be damaged so > far. > > Car damage in front was pretty much non-existent. A black mark on the > bumper where the front tire hit. Car doing the pushing had scuff marks, > but no obvious other damage. Bike? It will need some new parts (lights > and rear sheet metal and maybe an exhaust pipe) and a little paint touch up > (small scrape on the front fender). Not sure if the sudden shove has > caused any other problems...bike runs, though there's a bit of a strange > noise when hitting a bump at 35-40mph. Kind of a whine. Might be the tire > making contact with the bent rear fender, or something else. Didn't try to > track it down. > > Called insurance company from the post office parking lot. Driver that hit > me has the same insurance company I do...and they've always been really > good in the past (USAA). He was on his way to get his income taxes > done...said he didn't feel well and probably shouldn't have been driving. > Said he wasn't sure what happened...he thinks his foot slipped off the > brake. If it did, it landed on the gas, but at least he got off it quickly > and didn't keep coming after he hit me. Guy from the car in front had a > camera and took some shots and said he'll e-mail them to me later tonight. > > So, now I wait for the insurance claims adjuster to call (up to two days > they say), check my parts catalogue for the prices on the parts I know are > history, and try to think if there was anything I could have done > differently, and should do differently in future to avoid a repeat. Given > that the guy was stopped, and I was stopped, and he was only a bike length > or so behind me, I'm not sure I'd have had time to do much of anything even > if I'd seen him just as he started to move. Anybody want to offer any > advice for a situation like this? > > Worst part is that now I have a banged up bike just as the weather is > turning nice...not sure how long it will take to get it looked over and > fixed. If it's just sheet metal and lights, I can replace the parts myself > once I get them. If something else is damaged, I might have to wait for > the dealer to fix it. Sigh. > > -- > -- Mike B. > > '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) > > Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes > is better. > > -- --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 6 00:56:29 2005 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 00:55:53 -0400 To: you@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Accident fun.... At 10:56 PM 4/5/05 -0400, smthng else wrote: >I agree with Wayne... get it checked out. There's lots of stuff back >there (or up front) that could be hosed without you realizing it. >Tweaked suspension and swingarm springs immediately to my mind. Yeah, the noise when hitting bumps or otherwise loading the suspension while moving could be that...among other things. It wasn't there prior to the accident. >As for how to avoid this one... you could have stayed home. :) I thought of that, but given the weather today, that wasn't likely. ;-) >"Anti-bikers" will tell you that if you'd been in a cage, you'd only >have a scratched bumper. I did think about that, and I decided that if I'd been in a cage I'd probably have whiplash if hit by a vehicle that much bigger than mine. On the bike my whole body went back as the bike was shoved out from underneath me, more or less, not just my head, so there was no major strain on the neck like there would have been with a car seat and too-low "headrest" (i.e. "neckbreaker"). >A real biker would say that you could have >been a pedestrian crossing the street, in which case you'd only be in >traction. Maybe, but given how low the hood on his Mercedes was, and how tall I am, if I'd seen him with enough warning to get the weight off my feet, I'd probably have just landed on his hood and he'd have a huge "zitzmark" to remember it by. The force involved in this one was about like being tackled playing football. Not a "splat" sort of level, but enough to get your attention really well. Thanks for the advice...I'll be following it. Except the staying home part. :-) -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 6 00:56:30 2005 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 00:46:33 -0400 To: Wayne Edelen , From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Accident fun.... At 09:18 PM 4/5/05 -0400, Wayne Edelen wrote: >On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Mike B. wrote: > >> If it's just sheet metal and lights, I can replace the parts myself >> once I get them. If something else is damaged, I might have to wait for >> the dealer to fix it. Sigh. > >I'd have a qualified mechanic/shop check out the bike. Lots of other >damage may be hiding. Agreed. I don't plan to ride it again until the insurance guy sees it and the shop looks it over. A whack like that could easily have knocked the engine/tranny out of line with the drive pulley, or bent the frame (though I don't think that happened...it handled normally on the short ride home), or other things that I don't know enough to think of. I'm hoping it's just sheet metal and lights. I was really amazed that both rear turn signals and the brake light still work, despite being bent out of place and with shattered lenses on the turn signals. I figured the bulbs would have lost their filaments for sure, if not been broken. >Sorry to hear about your accident. Hope everything works out with the >insurance. I'm sure it will. USAA is a good company. Thanks for the kind thoughts though. >Also, it's good you weren't hurt worse. What gear were you >wearing? From the goose-egg injury, it sounds like it was jeans. It was jeans for the lower end. If it had been 10-15 degrees cooler I'd have had leather pants on too, but at almost 70 degrees, mine are too hot and bulky, especially for a short ride like I was planning on. Given the pointy nature of the acorn nut I hit (it's not one of the rounded ones), I'm not sure they'd have made a lot of difference. Some, sure, but I'm almost certain I'd still have the bruise. In addition to the jeans, I was wearing a full face helmet (which didn't hit anything), a leather vest, my FXRG leather jacket, and H-D combat-boot style riding boots (I'm guessing those saved me a sprained ankle from whiplash effect when my shin hit the underside of the bars). Also had on lightly padded leather gloves, but those didn't matter this time. One thing that did come in handy was the bag and engine guards I installed after I got the bike. The bike landed on them, rather than the bar ends, gas tank, engine, floorboards or other parts. I felt for scratches on the guards, but didn't find any, so they appear to have come through this intact. I'll check again tomorrow when there's better light. One thing I've found is that you can miss a whole lot of damage when you check right after the accident. Something about adrenaline and being methodical that don't go together. Thanks for the good words. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 6 07:30:15 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:29:44 EDT Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Accident fun.... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/5/2005 8:32:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, omni@XXXXXX writes: > A black mark on the > bumper where the front tire hit. That kind of hit could easily bend forks. Make DAMN sure that they are not bent! (and that means do not trust the shop to check unless you insist (and then do not bet on it.)) The slightest bend will seriously affect handling. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC 1999, Honda ST1100X Pan European 1983, BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles 1976, Honda CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 6 07:46:01 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:45:40 EDT Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Accident fun.... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 4/6/2005 12:56:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, omni@XXXXXX writes: > I'm hoping it's just sheet metal and lights. I was really amazed that both > rear turn signals and the brake light still work, despite being bent out of > place and with shattered lenses on the turn signals. I figured the bulbs > would have lost their filaments for sure, if not been broken. A long while back a friend of mine was rear ended at night, at a light. When the cop arrived the guy who hit him claimed that it was because my friends bike had no tail light. It was a fairly safe bet for the guy because the taillight assembly was torn off of the bike, hanging by the wires, the red plastic lens was shattered, and the glass on the bulb was broken. My friend kicked started the bike (I did say a long while back, far enough that this particular bike did not depend on, or even have, a battery. (A Harley Scat as I recall. )) The tail light lit up and burned brightly for a couple of seconds before the filament burned away. The guy in the car just shut up. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 6 08:15:02 2005 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:14:53 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] A tale of two wheels Yesterday morning a quick check of the Post online displayed a high of 72 degrees. A strange fever of 101 degrees gripped me and I was compelled to e-mail work and take a sick day. After some covert ops to get my two wheeler out of the company lot...I put three and change miles on my new R6. Part of this included a jaunt to motorcycleleatherexchange.com where I picked up a replacement set of Held Galaxy gloves. Thanks Jay! For taking the time to get me geared up and the chat. I have been consciously trying to increase my look well ahead distance..so I had the unpleasant surprise of turning right on Piney Meetinghouse road from River road and encountering some camouflage "gray" gravel. The rear wheel fishtailed violently but the bike remained fairly stable. I can't say enough about my new R6. It is a dream come true and I spent the day going from Great Falls to the Pentagon to Annapolis to cross the bay bridge. A kind Harley rider by the name of Rich happened to be at Ego Alley in Annapolis where there is some bike parking. He shared his table and we were both soon laughing about the sudden ailment skipwork-a-ridis which had struck us both. Traffic seems to have increased during the day and the usually quiet highway 50 was peppered with local law administrators some on two wheels. I could not resist one or two short squirts of riding WFO but I maintained sensible habits otherwise. A great day to ride on a wonderful bike. The difference between this one and my 02 is substantial..especially in the handling and braking departments. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 6 08:38:22 2005 Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Motorcycle police chase Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:38:18 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: "Mike B." , Bike magazine UK had an excellent article where they took an English motorcycle bobby out on the track with some part time racers and experienced track\street riders. This guy had either a comparatively clunky Harley or Kawasaki loaded with panniers and all the police gear. He was able to keep up and in some cases lap the sport bike riders. The icy calm of experience allowed him to drive at a very high level. When they put him on a GXR-750, that was all she wrote and he posted the best track times of the group. Interesting article. -----Original Message----- From: Mike B. [mailto:omni@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Motorcycle police chase At 06:45 AM 4/5/05 EDT, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: >In a message dated 4/4/2005 4:42:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >wayne@XXXXXX writes: > >> I'm surprised a police bike can even keep a sportbike in sight. > >I am not. In most of the police "dash cam" videos I have seen the rider >was such a squid that I could have kept up with him on a bicycle. While the cops are very well trained. Ever seen them in the "police rodeo" games? Impressive skills... >Of course we only see the ones where the rider get caught... Caught by the cop chasing them, yeah. As the old song goes (_Sheriff of Boone County_, by Kenny Price, circa the 70s): "You may outrun my old Chevrolet, but you can't outrun my old 2-way...Leon's waitin' at the station to hear from me..." -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 6 08:43:56 2005 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 05:43:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Ray To: DC Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Falling Harley Prices? Is it just me, or does the price of used Harleys seem to be coming down? Over the past few years, they generally kept their value, with used ones selling for almost the price of a new one - ergo the fabled "holding their value" remarks. Lately, though, I'm seeing used ones at lower prices. A 4k mile 883 sportster for $4000. Things like that: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mcy/67111276.html http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mcy/66932324.html http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mcy/66029146.html Is the bubble bursting here, too? Perhaps it's just the sporties, but it seems like there's lots in the papers, too, at similarly good prices.... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 6 09:10:40 2005 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 06:10:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Falling Harley Prices? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX This wouldn't suprise me. Since they have caught up with production in the last few years this was bound to happen. Glenn --- Brian Ray wrote: > Is it just me, or does the price of used Harleys > seem > to be coming down? > > Over the past few years, they generally kept their > value, with used ones selling for almost the price > of > a new one - ergo the fabled "holding their value" > remarks. > > Lately, though, I'm seeing used ones at lower > prices. > A 4k mile 883 sportster for $4000. Things like > that: > > http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mcy/67111276.html > > http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mcy/66932324.html > > http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mcy/66029146.html > > Is the bubble bursting here, too? Perhaps it's just > the sporties, but it seems like there's lots in the > papers, too, at similarly good prices.... > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 6 09:23:59 2005 From: To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Falling Harley Prices? Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 9:23:49 -0400 > > From: Brian Ray > Date: 2005/04/06 Wed AM 08:43:49 EDT > To: DC Cycles > Subject: [dc-cycles] Falling Harley Prices? > > Is it just me, or does the price of used Harleys seem > to be coming down? > > Over the past few years, they generally kept their > value, with used ones selling for almost the price of > a new one - ergo the fabled "holding their value" > remarks. > > Lately, though, I'm seeing used ones at lower prices. > A 4k mile 883 sportster for $4000. Things like that: > > http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mcy/67111276.html > > http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mcy/66932324.html > > http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mcy/66029146.html > > Is the bubble bursting here, too? Perhaps it's just > the sporties, but it seems like there's lots in the > papers, too, at similarly good prices.... > > they most definately are going down. Actually, they're just being sold for a more reasonable price. The demand in the past few years far outstripped the supply, hence the reason that dealers, as well as resellers, could gouge the public. The demand is still there, however now HD has manufacturered to meet that demand (and then some). That's especially true for the Anniversary bikes. There's still plenty on the showroom floor...not to mention a high number of consignment bikes. All of those factors are driving down the new and used bike prices. Patriot HD in Fairfax is advertising $1 down, zero percent financing and the first payment isn't due for 90 days. THAT was totally unheard of just 4 years ago when there were waiting lists and drawings just to get the *chance* of ordering a bike. No biggie..I didn't buy my bike as an investment anyway. I never expected to get any appreciable return if I sold it. I bought it to ride and nothing else. -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 6 09:24:57 2005 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 09:24:49 -0400 From: "Dr. Corona" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Accident fun.... Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I wish you the best and a speedy recovery for you and your bike. I think it may not have been wise to ride the bike after the wreck you described. Without a thourough review by a qualified mechanic to catch the "hidden damage" you put yourself at additional risk. You also should consider a trip to the Dr. for a good once over. I've had injuries that did not show up for a few days. I understand that may seem like overkill but it's prudent to have all your bases covered. -Norris On Apr 6, 2005 7:45 AM, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > In a message dated 4/6/2005 12:56:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > omni@XXXXXX writes: > > > I'm hoping it's just sheet metal and lights. I was really amazed that both > > rear turn signals and the brake light still work, despite being bent out of > > place and with shattered lenses on the turn signals. I figured the bulbs > > would have lost their filaments for sure, if not been broken. > > A long while back a friend of mine was rear ended at night, at a light. When > the cop arrived the guy who hit him claimed that it was because my friends > bike had no tail light. It was a fairly safe bet for the guy because the > taillight assembly was torn off of the bike, hanging by the wires, the red plastic > lens was shattered, and the glass on the bulb was broken. > My friend kicked started the bike (I did say a long while back, far enough > that this particular bike did not depend on, or even have, a battery. (A Harley > Scat as I recall. )) The tail light lit up and burned brightly for a couple of > seconds before the filament burned away. > The guy in the car just shut up. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 6 12:33:43 2005 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:29:46 -0400 To: DC Cycles From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Falling Harley Prices? At 05:43 AM 4/6/05 -0700, Brian Ray wrote: >Is it just me, or does the price of used Harleys seem >to be coming down? A little, but it will probably become moreso. Harley finally caught up with demand in their manufacturing capacity. The long waiting periods that were common for a long time for new bikes are pretty much gone now. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 6 12:46:07 2005 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 12:46:02 -0400 From: Michael Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Motorcycle police chase > Bike magazine UK had an excellent article where they took an English > motorcycle bobby out on the track with some part time racers and > experienced track\street riders. This guy had either a comparatively > clunky Harley or Kawasaki loaded with panniers and all the police gear. > He was able to keep up and in some cases lap the sport bike riders. The > icy calm of experience allowed him to drive at a very high level. Kids and I came across a Swiss motorcop coming down from the Julierpass in the rain the year before last. We weren't hustling, and neither was he, but he effortlessly disappeared into the fog. Nothing like lotsa practice. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 6 13:39:54 2005 Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:40:25 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: [dc-cycles] Accident fun....one last comment about RAM mounts... I had my GPS (Magellan Meridian) and a small clipboard on a R.A.M. mount on my bars when I got hit yesterday. It didn't even budge when I got hit. Just in case anyone needs another reason to claim these things really work well... -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 6 23:04:38 2005 From: "W.S." To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 23:04:23 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] A Bay Bridge day Took what has become an annual spring welcome afternoon today - DC to the Outlets at the 301/50 split on the Eastern Shore. For the kicks, summer gear, and a taste of Bay Crab. Notes: Made the deck-wounded Bridge around lunch. Warning signs on 50 leading up were gloomy, but couldn't believe there'd be serious problems at a Wednesday noon. Boy was I fooled: Booth traffic was backed up to the shopping center (2 mi?). Through the cash booths (only 2 open at the far right) took half an hour of lurch and duckwalk. (Some of you steady Bridge users might want to chime in on this one - is there a back road I missed?) E-ZPassers got an immense break using their left hand lane, which makes that option almost a necessity if the deck works carry to the hot weather. Bridge Info at http://www.mdta.state.md.us/mdta/servlet/dispatchServlet?url=/Home/main.jsp. The discount tool tent at the Outlets (the Rte. 50 side) was there again, for three months so they said. 200? trays of all kinds of orphaned new tools, from cloth gloves to power washers and a pile I'd never seen before at what seemed bottom prices. Picked up shirts at Van Heusen and poked around Bass and a few others: A pleasure in vacant stores with discount signs everywhere. Then to Hemingways for a great crab sandwich and soaking up the view that kickstarts the season. Finally saw what all the Bridge fuss is about on the westbound span -- no discomfort, really. Bill S. / DC (on digest) '99 VN750 > Would suffer bumpy deck for speedy passage. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Apr 7 13:49:12 2005 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 13:48:49 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] Arlington Spring Riding Advisory For all those just now getting on their bikes in the NOVA area...it seems the local PD have adopted a Red Cell guerrilla type mentality to speed enforcement. Changing tactics, timing and positions it seems the APD are doing their utmost to be unpredictable. The new MO include concealing themselves behind street lamp posts and zapping you sniper style....moving posts frequently and other tactics. North Glebe Rd. and Washington Blvd. are streets to be very careful on. I cruise by them every day usually in the right lane running two to four above the posted signage. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Apr 7 14:30:15 2005 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 14:30:13 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] Afternoon Entertainment... www.ironstride.com/GallardoDucati.wmv ..very interesting. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 11 12:13:49 2005 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:13:34 -0400 From: Aaron Maurer To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] ouch http://s88265598.onlinehome.us/vids/backloupe.wmv "You can go twice as fast." Ouch. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 11 12:24:09 2005 From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] ouch Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:24:00 -0400 Two words: Natural Selection From: Aaron Maurer To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] ouch Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:13:34 -0400 http://s88265598.onlinehome.us/vids/backloupe.wmv "You can go twice as fast." Ouch. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 11 12:38:59 2005 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:38:35 -0400 From: scooterfzr@XXXXXX X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] ouch To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Agreed. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Keiser To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] ouch Two words:)B  )B  Natural Selection)B  )B  From: Aaron Maurer )B  To: DC-Cycles )B  Subject: [dc-cycles] ouch)B  Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:13:34 -0400)B  )B  http://s88265598.onlinehome.us/vids/backloupe.wmv)B  )B  "You can go twice as fast.")B  )B  Ouch.)B  )B  From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 11 13:00:13 2005 From: "Altaan Choudhry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:59:58 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] You gotta see this!!! No words to describe. http://s88265598.onlinehome.us/vids/backloupe.wmv From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 11 14:07:40 2005 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:07:36 -0400 From: corey To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] You gotta see this!!! X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: egoinc,work@XXXXXX X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - victory.vs4dns.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - dc-cycles.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - egoinc.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: that's at travis pastrana's house up in annapolis. he's got 2 DVDs out that are pretty entertaining... if you're into that sort of thing. saw some XXXtreme squid behavior coming down 70 from frederick yesterday. moron on an R1 pushing 90+ filtering with his gal on the back. did a solid 300 on saturday, backroads thru leesburg, martinsburg, winchester & front royal. i was absolutely wrecked afterward, clutch-hand wrist especially... pix here: http://www.blanksky.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=11 ---------------------------- corey [journal] www.egoinc.org [portfolio] www.blanksky.com [forum] www.dcstreet.com Donald Duck comics were banned in Finland because he doesn't wear pants. ______________________________________________ Monday, April 11, 2005, 12:59:58 PM, you wrote: AC> No words to describe. AC> http://s88265598.onlinehome.us/vids/backloupe.wmv From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 11 14:43:19 2005 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:43:00 -0400 From: scooterfzr@XXXXXX X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] You gotta see this!!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Day late and a dollar short. Someone already posted this a little while ago. :-) Scooter -----Original Message----- From: Altaan Choudhry To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] You gotta see this!!! No words to describe.)B  )B  http://s88265598.onlinehome.us/vids/backloupe.wmv)B  )B  From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 13 07:27:07 2005 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 04:26:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] VFR Regulator/Rectifier Question For you VFR people. After doing some tests it seems my R/R has finally died on my 98. I'm wondering what the best replacement is? I see Honda is on a "2003" model R/R. Is the Honda one the way to go or it is better to go after market? Any other tips to replacement? One post I've found on the Internet suggests removing the quick disconnects and soldering the wires together as the thought it the connectors can't handle the current. TIA Glenn __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 13 08:40:52 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:40:36 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] News Cedric Bernescut if you are out there could you ping me off list? John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 13 08:53:39 2005 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 05:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Ray To: DC Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] FYI - Morton's BMW Open House is this Saturday. http://www.mortonsbmw.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 13 09:26:47 2005 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:26:37 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] VFR Regulator/Rectifier Question The aftermarkets are pretty solid now, but no more so than the Honda ones. If you get another 20k out of it, it is worth the $100 for OEM. I'm still on my 1st replacement OEM at 44k. Due for a new one this season most likely. YMMV, yadda yadda. At 07:26 AM 4/13/2005, Glenn Dysart wrote: >For you VFR people. After doing some tests it seems >my R/R has finally died on my 98. I'm wondering what >the best replacement is? I see Honda is on a "2003" >model R/R. Is the Honda one the way to go or it is >better to go after market? Any other tips to >replacement? One post I've found on the Internet >suggests removing the quick disconnects and soldering >the wires together as the thought it the connectors >can't handle the current. > >TIA > >Glenn > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 AMA - http://www.amadirectlink.com/ NMA - http://www.motorists.org "I'd rather die while I'm living, then live while I'm dead." - Jimmy Buffett From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 13 10:33:28 2005 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:34:26 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville Harley-Davidson Battley's is having their open house this Saturday. An edited down version of the announcement message follows for those interested. It's not all H-D either...for instance, a bunch of the Sidi boots that folks here seem to like are on sale... Full version at: http://www.psnnewsletter.com/redirect.asp?id=15717&nid=2066&rid=49856 ---------- Spring Open House Fun, Food, AND Savings Saturday April 16th 8:30am - 5pm Breakfast Ride at 7:30am Big Bike Blowout Sale Live Music by Welbilt Savings up to 70% jackets, boot, gloves and more Leather repairs by Industrial Sewing Meet Factory Reps Meet local area motorcycle clubs Big Bike Blow Out Sale 2004 VRSCB was $17,570 now only $14,900 Freight, set-up, tax, title, tags additional. 20th Anniversary Specials Hourly Specials ALL Day Long Sidi City, Reg. $200 Now $159.99 Sidi On Road, Reg. $260 Now 199.99 Sidi Chapmion Air, Reg $260 Now $129.99 Sidi Vertebra 2, Reg. $260 Now $182.99 Sidi Vert 2 air, Reg $315 Now $159.00 Sidi Vert 2 Tepor, Reg. $315 Now $225.00 Sidi Strada Air, Reg. $200. Now $159.00 Dainese TT2 Scarponcino, Reg. $189.99 Now $199.99 Dainese Stivali Mtg-Touring, Reg $259.99 Now $199.99 Womens Prexports, Reg. $179.95 Now $79.00 Womens Sidi Violet Reb. $225.99 Now $158.99 Three Ring Sales Circus Under the Big Top! Dainese Ice-X Reg. $59.99 Now $44.99 Dainese Firestarter Reg. $129.99 Now $99.99 Aplinestar GP plus Reg. $188.00 Now $129.99 Held ProFi racing gloves Reg. $179.95 Now $99.99 Rev-it PX2 Reg. $109.95 Now $76.99 Rev-it Hurricane Reg. $60.00 Now $29.99 Save up to 70% on Jackets, Boots, Gloves and more Dainese TRAX Reg. $339.00 Now $258.30 Dainese Zag Pelle Reg $519.00 Now $363.30 Dainese Charger Reg. $549.99 Now 384.00 ---------- Battley Cycles / Rockville Harley-Davidson 7830 Airpark Road Gaithersburg, MD 20879 -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 13 11:15:05 2005 From: "Rob Keiser" To: glenn_dysart@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] VFR Regulator/Rectifier Question Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 11:14:57 -0400 Glenn, I would stick with OEM and just shop around for the best price. If memory serves correct, there were a lot of problems with the aftermarket ones...Electrelex, or similar. Try Arizona Motorsports, Honda of Milpitas, and Service Honda. They'll probably have the best prices. Another mod I did when replacing mine was to sand down the paint on that part of the subframe and applied heat sink compound to the back of the R/R. The new ones now come with a mounting plate. I also made sure all the connections were clean and corrosion free. Didn't attempt any of the rewiring ideas floating around. Also make sure your battery isn't too old. If it is, get a new one. Just my two cents. Rob '98 VFR800 From: Glenn Dysart To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] VFR Regulator/Rectifier Question Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 04:26:53 -0700 (PDT) For you VFR people. After doing some tests it seems my R/R has finally died on my 98. I'm wondering what the best replacement is? I see Honda is on a "2003" model R/R. Is the Honda one the way to go or it is better to go after market? Any other tips to replacement? One post I've found on the Internet suggests removing the quick disconnects and soldering the wires together as the thought it the connectors can't handle the current. TIA Glenn __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 13 14:32:06 2005 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:32:05 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] VFR Regulator/Rectifier Question Unrelated VFR parts note - I just stopped by Manassas Honda for an exhaust to header coupling (basically two banana shaped bits of steel 4" long with a hinge and bolt) and they wanted $29. For each half. Glad I have a father-in-law who welds for a living. At 11:14 AM 4/13/2005, Rob Keiser wrote: >I would stick with OEM and just shop around for the best price. If memory >serves correct, there were a lot of problems with the aftermarket >ones...Electrelex, or similar. Try Arizona Motorsports, Honda of >Milpitas, and Service Honda. They'll probably have the best >prices. Another mod I did when replacing mine was to sand down the paint >on that part of the subframe and applied heat sink compound to the back of >the R/R. The new ones now come with a mounting plate. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 AMA - http://www.amadirectlink.com/ NMA - http://www.motorists.org "I'd rather die while I'm living, then live while I'm dead." - Jimmy Buffett From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 13 22:44:08 2005 Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1970 22:26:42 -0500 From: Bob McKeithen To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: [dc-cycles] Open house--slightly off center This Saturday is also the Open House at Winchester Motosports if any of you are non-mainstream types. You know who you are. Bob From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Apr 14 10:05:33 2005 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:05:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] VFR Regulator/Rectifier Question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Thanks for everyones response. I ordered the updated OEM version yesterday. Hopefully I won't be out of my ride for too long. I'm also going to try and clean all my grounds and solder the lugs where I think it will make a difference. Glenn --- Troutman wrote: > The aftermarkets are pretty solid now, but no more > so than the Honda > ones. If you get another 20k out of it, it is worth > the $100 for OEM. I'm > still on my 1st replacement OEM at 44k. Due for a > new one this season most > likely. > > YMMV, yadda yadda. > > At 07:26 AM 4/13/2005, Glenn Dysart wrote: > >For you VFR people. After doing some tests it > seems > >my R/R has finally died on my 98. I'm wondering > what > >the best replacement is? I see Honda is on a > "2003" > >model R/R. Is the Honda one the way to go or it is > >better to go after market? Any other tips to > >replacement? One post I've found on the Internet > >suggests removing the quick disconnects and > soldering > >the wires together as the thought it the connectors > >can't handle the current. > > > >TIA > > > >Glenn > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > >http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > _____________________________________ > Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org/vfr > > '97 Honda VFR 750 > AMA - http://www.amadirectlink.com/ > NMA - http://www.motorists.org > > "I'd rather die while I'm living, then live > while I'm dead." > - Jimmy Buffett > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Apr 14 14:24:12 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: Glenn Dysart , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] VFR Regulator/Rectifier Question Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:24:07 -0400 I think the honda OEM replacements are supposed to be a bit better than the versions that came with the bike. A lot of problems are cause by corrosion of the connectors. I think a new OEM R/R and cleaning off all the connectors would get you another 7 years down the road on the VFR :) Rob On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 04:26:53 -0700 (PDT), Glenn Dysart wrote > For you VFR people. After doing some tests it seems > my R/R has finally died on my 98. I'm wondering what > the best replacement is? I see Honda is on a "2003" > model R/R. Is the Honda one the way to go or it is > better to go after market? Any other tips to > replacement? One post I've found on the Internet > suggests removing the quick disconnects and soldering > the wires together as the thought it the connectors > can't handle the current. > > TIA > > Glenn > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Apr 14 15:00:32 2005 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:00:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] VFR Regulator/Rectifier Question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Surprisingly enough my connectors are nice and clean. I think I owe that to fellow lister Bruce Norton who put dielectric grease on them a few years ago for me. Of course others would argue my bike is entirely too clean. ;-) Glenn --- Rob Sharp wrote: > I think the honda OEM replacements are supposed to > be a bit better than the > versions that came with the bike. > > A lot of problems are cause by corrosion of the > connectors. I think a new OEM > R/R and cleaning off all the connectors would get > you another 7 years down the > road on the VFR :) > > Rob > > On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 04:26:53 -0700 (PDT), Glenn > Dysart wrote > > For you VFR people. After doing some tests it > seems > > my R/R has finally died on my 98. I'm wondering > what > > the best replacement is? I see Honda is on a > "2003" > > model R/R. Is the Honda one the way to go or it > is > > better to go after market? Any other tips to > > replacement? One post I've found on the Internet > > suggests removing the quick disconnects and > soldering > > the wires together as the thought it the > connectors > > can't handle the current. > > > > TIA > > > > Glenn > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources > site! > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > -- > Rob Sharp > rob@XXXXXX > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Apr 14 17:18:00 2005 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] VFR Regulator/Rectifier Question From: lister lynch To: Glenn Dysart Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 17:16:48 -0400 FWIW, when the the reg/rec went out in the VTR, (I replaced it with a new OEM VFR fully finned model that I had on hand) the connections were all good. The reg/rec just cooked itself internally and the epoxy separated from the casing. My best guess is that it didn't have enough heat dissipation, which was only to the frame with a poorly made contact. Mike On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 15:00, Glenn Dysart wrote: > Surprisingly enough my connectors are nice and clean. > I think I owe that to fellow lister Bruce Norton who > put dielectric grease on them a few years ago for me. > Of course others would argue my bike is entirely too > clean. ;-) > > Glenn > > --- Rob Sharp wrote: > > I think the honda OEM replacements are supposed to > > be a bit better than the > > versions that came with the bike. > > > > A lot of problems are cause by corrosion of the > > connectors. I think a new OEM > > R/R and cleaning off all the connectors would get > > you another 7 years down the > > road on the VFR :) > > > > Rob > > > > On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 04:26:53 -0700 (PDT), Glenn > > Dysart wrote > > > For you VFR people. After doing some tests it > > seems > > > my R/R has finally died on my 98. I'm wondering > > what > > > the best replacement is? I see Honda is on a > > "2003" > > > model R/R. Is the Honda one the way to go or it > > is > > > better to go after market? Any other tips to > > > replacement? One post I've found on the Internet > > > suggests removing the quick disconnects and > > soldering > > > the wires together as the thought it the > > connectors > > > can't handle the current. > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > Glenn > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources > > site! > > > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > > > > > -- > > Rob Sharp > > rob@XXXXXX > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Apr 15 11:30:34 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:30:28 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] Recommended Read "Under and Alone" by William Queen Fellow lister Rich Hall recommended "Under and Alone" by William Queen. Being a bookworm I dropped the $26.00 and change and picked it up. ATF agent William Queen writes about his two years deep undercover in the Mongols motorcycle gang. He eventually became a fully patched executive treasurer of the San Fernando chapter of the gang. I have read this type of recount in various shapes many times..but because this was related to motorcyclists in general I zipped through it. If you want to read about gang culture and the 1%er life style, you will find this a good read. Learning that a stolen bike is almost an initiation rite for a prospect wasn't a fun thought for me...a familiar tale of internal conflict and a undercover cop living the life of a gangster. Call me jaded but when I read the list of the entire gang's criminalities over two years..I would almost feel more relaxed being in a hard core biker bar then a few of the local venues I have dropped into during my wanderings. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Apr 15 12:43:18 2005 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:43:11 -0400 From: Michael Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Open Houses Tomorrow With demo riides, yet Morton's BMW in Fredricksburg N 38)Bº 15.302', W 077º 30.036' (5099A Jefferson Davis Highway) and Winchester Motorsports Exit 321 off of I-81 north of Winchester, -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA NRA etc. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Apr 15 13:57:02 2005 X-Sasl-Enc: vIaA7m54gMfaFGsgjCxr8yDvRsq81bwUVaayFPIT95Vc 1113587811 From: "Louis F. Caplan" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Open Houses Tomorrow Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:56:51 -0400 Also MFi in Woodbridge, demo ride the GL1800 and another bike I forgot. I've been warned though, if I demo ride the GL1800, keep the credit cards locked up and pictures of my wife and kid on hand and repeat the mantra... I can't afford it!! :-) Louis On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:43:11 -0400, "Michael Jordan" said: > With demo riides, yet > > Morton's BMW in Fredricksburg > N 38)Bº 15.302', W 077º 30.036' > (5099A Jefferson Davis Highway) > > and Winchester Motorsports > Exit 321 off of I-81 north of Winchester, ======= "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours Fairfax, VA Pls consider helping me support the Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation: http://www.the-caplans.us/ride4kids From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Apr 15 14:50:35 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Open Houses Tomorrow Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:50:25 -0400 I think the other bike is the VTX not sure which size. >From: "Louis F. Caplan" >To: "DC-Cycles" >Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Open Houses Tomorrow >Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:56:51 -0400 > >Also MFi in Woodbridge, demo ride the GL1800 and another bike I forgot. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Apr 15 15:06:24 2005 Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Open Houses Tomorrow Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:06:22 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: "rich hall" , Whats your sched again this weekend? Want to plan a bike trip..maybe down to deals gap or even red-eyes dock bar one Sunday? -----Original Message----- From: rich hall [mailto:richallmc@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Open Houses Tomorrow I think the other bike is the VTX not sure which size. >From: "Louis F. Caplan" >To: "DC-Cycles" >Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Open Houses Tomorrow >Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:56:51 -0400 > >Also MFi in Woodbridge, demo ride the GL1800 and another bike I forgot. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Apr 17 14:35:46 2005 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:42:06 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: suzuki-l@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" Subject: [dc-cycles] any ideas on how to remove broken carb air screw tips? No, not my bike, thank you 8^) Very thin tip that someone overtightened to the point of snapping off. thanx. --garcia "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Apr 17 14:39:29 2005 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:45:57 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" Subject: [dc-cycles] free: virago 750 rear wheel, ca. 1992 (fits lots of years) includes brake shoes and axle, but not brake cam or arm. will go on craigslist in 24 hours. --garcia "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Apr 17 17:49:34 2005 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:49:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Ray Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] any ideas on how to remove broken carb air screw tips? To: DC Cycles How about drilling a small hole, and using an easy-out or something similar? --- garcia oliver wrote: > No, not my bike, thank you 8^) > > Very thin tip that someone overtightened to the > point of snapping off. > > thanx. > > --garcia > > "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always > depend upon the > support of Paul." > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Apr 17 18:22:16 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville Harley-Davidson Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:22:07 -0400 I called Battley's on Thursday all excited about their sale on Sidi's. I was crunched for time on Sat, but what a deal. I called to make sure this wasn't just clearance. That it wasn't only size 5, 6, & 7 in purple or green. I'm assurred it wasn't. I wake up early on Sat. Ride up there. Ask where the boots are, I'm pointed to where the "clearance tent" is. I go over there. There was 1 pair of size 7's. Which is not my size. F Battley's. >From: "Mike B." >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville >Harley-Davidson >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:34:26 -0400 > >Battley's is having their open house this Saturday. >http://www.psnnewsletter.com/redirect.asp?id=15717&nid=2066&rid=49856 >> Sidi Vert 2 air, Reg $315 Now $159.00 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Apr 17 23:24:06 2005 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:17:08 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville Harley-Davidson At 06:22 PM 4/17/05 -0400, rich hall wrote: >green. I'm assurred it wasn't. I wake up early on Sat. Ride up there. >Ask where the boots are, I'm pointed to where the "clearance tent" is. I go >over there. There was 1 pair of size 7's. Which is not my size. F >Battley's. I got there about 11:30am. There were several tables of boots in the tent, and I saw several pairs of Sidis...at least one was bigger than 7...looked more like 9 or 10, but I didn't examine it closely. Did you ask the guy they had stationed there to help people find things? I did see one guy ask for boots and get told they didn't have anything for him, but he was looking for size 15. I didn't paw through the piles myself since I couldn't have tried anything on anyway...foot's still swollen a bit, though working ok. Dr. tomorrow. I did get a couple of T-shirts though, on sale, and talked to the service folks about the bike repairs. Parts get ordered Monday...then I can get a better estimate of when they will arrive. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 18 07:58:33 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville Harley-Davidson Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:58:19 -0400 I was looking for a size 10. Tried on the 1 11 they had, too big. I had the guy helping me, although he really didn't seem too intrested. Said they'd been trying to get rid of those boots since Dec. >From: "Mike B." >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville >Harley-Davidson >Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 23:17:08 -0400 > >At 06:22 PM 4/17/05 -0400, rich hall wrote: > > >green. I'm assurred it wasn't. I wake up early on Sat. Ride up there. > >Ask where the boots are, I'm pointed to where the "clearance tent" is. I >go > >over there. There was 1 pair of size 7's. Which is not my size. F > >Battley's. > >I got there about 11:30am. There were several tables of boots in the tent, >and I saw several pairs of Sidis...at least one was bigger than 7...looked >more like 9 or 10, but I didn't examine it closely. Did you ask the guy >they had stationed there to help people find things? > >I did see one guy ask for boots and get told they didn't have anything for >him, but he was looking for size 15. I didn't paw through the piles myself >since I couldn't have tried anything on anyway...foot's still swollen a >bit, though working ok. Dr. tomorrow. I did get a couple of T-shirts >though, on sale, and talked to the service folks about the bike repairs. >Parts get ordered Monday...then I can get a better estimate of when they >will arrive. > > > > >-- >-- Mike B. > >'04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley >folks) > >Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes >is better. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 18 08:08:41 2005 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 05:08:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Schmidt Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville Harley-Davidson To: rich hall , DCcycles I did the same thing fortunately for me I must have gotten there early enough and was able to snag a pair that fit me but I asked the same questions on the phone and got the same answers. I don' t think that I will be heading back there for a while. It was a dissappointing sale if you ask me. There was nothing really on sale or that good of a deal and the MotoGP Mesh Jackets that they had were $10 more than what MSRP was and what I later found at other stores. Good thing i didn't buy one. On another note, anyone riding the GW Parkway at all WATCH OUT! There is a new, what looks to be, Speed Camera just North of National Airport at Gravelly Point. Not sure what speed it's set to trip at but everyone was just cruising by at at least 10 above on Sunday. So take note. Ian __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Plan great trips with Yahoo! Travel: Now over 17,000 guides! http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguide From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 18 21:08:27 2005 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:08:18 -0700 (PDT) From: John Kozyn To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Paging Dale of Dale City Horkster, Can you ping me off list? Thanks, JK John C. Kozyn 1999 900SS 1995 VFR750F __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Apr 18 22:01:52 2005 Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:01:06 -0400 From: Bob McKeithen To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter03.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: [dc-cycles] Tire source where are we getting cheap tires now that Discount Motorcycle Tires seems to be history. I need some oddball size Metzler's Bob From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 19 18:28:02 2005 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:40:18 -0400 From: corey To: DCcycles X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: egoinc,work@XXXXXX X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - victory.vs4dns.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - dc-cycles.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - egoinc.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: [dc-cycles] dented tank i'm considering purchasing this guy's '01 SV... it had a ~30mph downage a few weeks ago that left it with a rashy fairing and a dented tank. the tank dents kinda worry me. i'm just thinking about the structural integrity of the metal and safety. does anyone have input on this? here's a pic: http://www.blanksky.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=10&pos=0 ___________________________________________ corey [journal] www.egoinc.org [portfolio] www.blanksky.com [forum] www.dcstreet.com Revolution is just a t-shirt away From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 19 18:53:42 2005 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:53:37 -0400 From: Michael Jordan To: DCcycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] dented tank > the tank dents kinda worry me. i'm just thinking about the > structural integrity of the metal and safety. does anyone have input > on this? As dents go, that's not too bad. The paint is still attached, and there don't appear to be any creased areas. The only problem you should have with the tank is a slightly reduced range between fillups. -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA NRA etc. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 19 19:05:30 2005 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:05:19 -0400 From: smthng else To: DCcycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] dented tank On 4/19/05, Michael Jordan wrote: > > the tank dents kinda worry me. i'm just thinking about the > > structural integrity of the metal and safety. does anyone have input > > on this? Tank dents are no big deal, as long as you make sure it doesn't open up an invitation to rust... if you've still got paint, you're probably fine. I'd be more worried about the steering and head. I'd be willing to bet that dent was caused by the handlebar smacking the tanks. Bars and steering heads ain't meant to go that far. I'd jack it up off the front wheel and do some good yanking on it to make sure that it doesn't do anything it shouldn't. Then do a low speed and high speed test, with hands off the bars to check for head shake. I'm not saying not to get the bike, just be aware of what *could* be wrong. I've had a couple of "denters" that were fine bikes. --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 19 21:18:10 2005 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:17:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville Harley-Davidson To: "Mike B." , dc-cycles@XXXXXX you can always count on mike b. to come running to the defense of battleys. --- "Mike B." wrote: > At 06:22 PM 4/17/05 -0400, rich hall wrote: > > >green. I'm assurred it wasn't. I wake up early on Sat. > Ride up there. > >Ask where the boots are, I'm pointed to where the > "clearance tent" is. I go > >over there. There was 1 pair of size 7's. Which is not > my size. F > >Battley's. > > I got there about 11:30am. There were several tables of > boots in the tent, > and I saw several pairs of Sidis...at least one was > bigger than 7...looked > more like 9 or 10, but I didn't examine it closely. Did > you ask the guy > they had stationed there to help people find things? > > I did see one guy ask for boots and get told they didn't > have anything for > him, but he was looking for size 15. I didn't paw > through the piles myself > since I couldn't have tried anything on anyway...foot's > still swollen a > bit, though working ok. Dr. tomorrow. I did get a > couple of T-shirts > though, on sale, and talked to the service folks about > the bike repairs. > Parts get ordered Monday...then I can get a better > estimate of when they > will arrive. > > > > > -- > -- Mike B. > > '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for > the non-Harley folks) > > Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from > someone else's mistakes > is better. > > Tom Gimer - 301 675-3980 (cell) - http://www.murphygimer.com - http://www.mgtitlellc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Apr 19 21:20:44 2005 Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:20:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Accident fun.... To: "Mike B." , dc-cycles@XXXXXX had you filtered to the front this would never have happened. --- "Mike B." wrote: > > I appreciate the advice some others have posted here over > the last year or > so about how to avoid various sorts of damage and injury > on a bike. It's > been interesting and I've adopted a fair bit of it, but > I'm not sure what > could be done to avoid the accident I was subject to an > hour and a half > ago. If anyone has ideas, I'm happy to hear them. > > Weather was great, so I decided to go mail my tax returns > on the bike, and > then go for a ride. I was less than a mile from home, > sitting at a traffic > light in a residential area, had already done the "watch > behind in case > someone doesn't stop" thing as described here a couple of > times and there > were at least three cars stopped behind me, so I shifted > attention to the > impending green light. I was about third or fourth in > line for it and it's > short, so I didn't want to delay any more than necessary > when traffic > started up, when...WHAM!!!!! Tom Gimer - 301 675-3980 (cell) - http://www.murphygimer.com - http://www.mgtitlellc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 08:28:23 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:28:20 -0400 From: lisagoddard@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Filtering is dangerous! Monday evening I am sitting at the light on 28 West, as it crosses over I-270, nearly done with my evening commute. There)B’s a BMW bike two cars ahead of me at the light. I decide to scoot over to the right and head up to his spot in traffic to say )B“Hi”. I made it about 5 feet and both wheels hit some mud on the side of the road. Next thing I know both the bike and I are sliding downhill and in to the bumper of a Volvo wagon. I get up quickly knowing I need to catch the BMW rider before the light turns green to help me pick my bike back up. I tap him on the shoulder, he immediately parks his bike and helps me pick the VFR up. We stand there comparing crashes along with our matching )B‘Stitch suits and Alpinestar boots. He had crashed three weeks ago as a car made a left turn in front of him. I explain that my original intention was not a traffic evading maneuver, but a social one. My VFR doesn)B’t look to bad, I had been at a complete stop before proceeding and couldn)B’t have been going more than 10 mph. The bike was fine to ride home and commute on yesterday. Jay has safety wired my farings together giving my bike that )B“Frankenbike” look and is looking for some replacements on Ebay. I have had my VFR for at least five years now. Other than parking lot tip-overs that was the first time it has gone down. One bruise on my calf, one spot on my hand that is a little sore. My wrist felt like it had been bent back a little too far but is no longer bothering me and my neck was a little sore yesterday. Lisa Goddard '95 VFR '97 GSXR 600, track only ------------------------------------------------------ This message was sent using BOO.net's Webmail. http://www.boo.net/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 08:41:16 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 05:41:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Filtering is dangerous! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX That sucks ass Lisa. Hope you and the bike feel better soon. Glenn --- lisagoddard@XXXXXX wrote: > > Monday evening I am sitting at the light on 28 West, > as it crosses over I-270, > nearly done with my evening commute. There)B’s a BMW > bike two cars ahead of me > at the light. I decide to scoot over to the right > and head up to his spot in > traffic to say )B“Hi”. I made it about 5 feet and > both wheels hit some mud on __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 09:05:46 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:05:43 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] Head screwed on straight Driving on your bike with your head unscrewed is not a smart thing. I was boiling over with stress and hunger yesterday afternoon so I hopped on my bike and decided to go to lunch in Georgetown. I had left my wallet in my right pocket of my Mach 1 Jacket the night before. My car is the staging area for all two wheeled adventures and I was relieved to find my jacket and the requisite lump where my wallet was. Checked tire pressure and the rear wheel was at 30 when it was 36 the night before. Taking off, I hit the Shell on Wilson and adjusted pressure, rode a brisk ride that took me into G-town under the WhiteHurst Freeway. A cab making an illegal left from one of the numbered streets perpendicular to M St....came flying out and almost made me a grease spot. Got to clyde's, got me the Halibut, wolfed it down and still felt crappy. I felt even more crappy when I went to pay and my wallet was absent from my jacket pocket. The jacket was in sight at all times, so I can best figure that my whirlpool of a brain that day neglected to pickup on the fact that the wallet parted company from me somewhere. I retraced my whole route to no success. Some lucky person may find about $350 and change and all my ID's including motorcycle registration. Julian "Mind playing tricks on me" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 09:14:32 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:14:24 -0400 From: Dave Yates Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Head screwed on straight To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX JH: >Some lucky person may find about $350 and >change and all my ID's including motorcycle registration. [Dave] Dude, major league bummer. Never lost the wallet, but dropped a checkbook once and finder tracked me down. Keep your fingers crossed. Do you think it came out *while* riding? Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 09:24:07 2005 Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Head screwed on straight Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:24:04 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: "Dave Yates" , I am usually fairly sensitive to where things are when I ride. On my trip to Montreal, somewhere in upstate NY my backpack top pocket was open and I felt some papers fluttering at the back of my neck..I was able to reach around and grab it before it flew away into the night. If I had to guess, it fell out when I was hunched over to check the tire pressure or when I was adding air at the Ballston shell. Except for the cash which I needed to pay a bill I am not that bummed out about it. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Yates [mailto:Dave@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Head screwed on straight JH: >Some lucky person may find about $350 and change and all my ID's >including motorcycle registration. [Dave] Dude, major league bummer. Never lost the wallet, but dropped a checkbook once and finder tracked me down. Keep your fingers crossed. Do you think it came out *while* riding? Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 09:44:03 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:42:55 -0400 To: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville Harley-Davidson And you to make a pointless comment about it...fuckwitt. -- Mike B. At 06:17 PM 4/19/05 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: >you can always count on mike b. to come running to the >defense of battleys. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 10:24:15 2005 From: To: Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Filtering is dangerous! Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:23:47 -0400 Damn Lisa. Glad to hear you're alright. On a different note, did anyone else notice, that unlike a male's perspective of the drop, Lisa didn't mention anything about her ego being bruised as well? Guess that's the male/female perspective. A guy would, and I know I'm being stereotypical, of tried to pick the bike up first, comment about how embarrassed they are, then as a LAST resort, look for help. -aki > > From: lisagoddard@XXXXXX > Date: 2005/04/20 Wed AM 08:28:20 EDT > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: [dc-cycles] Filtering is dangerous! > > > Monday evening I am sitting at the light on 28 West, as it crosses over I-270, > nearly done with my evening commute. There)B’s a BMW bike two cars ahead of me > at the light. I decide to scoot over to the right and head up to his spot in > traffic to say )B“Hi”. I made it about 5 feet and both wheels hit some mud on > the side of the road. Next thing I know both the bike and I are sliding > downhill and in to the bumper of a Volvo wagon. I get up quickly knowing I > need to catch the BMW rider before the light turns green to help me pick my > bike back up. I tap him on the shoulder, he immediately parks his bike and > helps me pick the VFR up. > > We stand there comparing crashes along with our matching )B‘Stitch suits and > Alpinestar boots. He had crashed three weeks ago as a car made a left turn in > front of him. I explain that my original intention was not a traffic evading > maneuver, but a social one. > > My VFR doesn)B’t look to bad, I had been at a complete stop before proceeding > and couldn)B’t have been going more than 10 mph. The bike was fine to ride home > and commute on yesterday. Jay has safety wired my farings together giving my > bike that )B“Frankenbike” look and is looking for some replacements on Ebay. I > have had my VFR for at least five years now. Other than parking lot tip-overs > that was the first time it has gone down. > > One bruise on my calf, one spot on my hand that is a little sore. My wrist > felt like it had been bent back a little too far but is no longer bothering me > and my neck was a little sore yesterday. > > Lisa Goddard > '95 VFR > '97 GSXR 600, track only > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > This message was sent using BOO.net's Webmail. > http://www.boo.net/ > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 10:52:27 2005 From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Filtering is dangerous! Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:52:07 -0400 Lisa, Sorry to hear about your mishap, but glad to hear that you and the bike are largely OK! I would disagree with you that "Filtering is dangerous" however. In this case, I would say that unseen road spooge (such as mud) is dangerous. If you hadn't hit the mud, you would have been able to filter just fine. Perry >From: lisagoddard@XXXXXX >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: [dc-cycles] Filtering is dangerous! >Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:28:20 -0400 > > >Monday evening I am sitting at the light on 28 West, as it crosses over >I-270, >nearly done with my evening commute. There)B’s a BMW bike two cars ahead of >me >at the light. I decide to scoot over to the right and head up to his spot >in >traffic to say )B“Hi”. I made it about 5 feet and both wheels hit some mud >on >the side of the road. Next thing I know both the bike and I are sliding >downhill and in to the bumper of a Volvo wagon. I get up quickly knowing I >need to catch the BMW rider before the light turns green to help me pick my >bike back up. I tap him on the shoulder, he immediately parks his bike and >helps me pick the VFR up. > >We stand there comparing crashes along with our matching )B‘Stitch suits and >Alpinestar boots. He had crashed three weeks ago as a car made a left turn >in >front of him. I explain that my original intention was not a traffic >evading >maneuver, but a social one. > >My VFR doesn)B’t look to bad, I had been at a complete stop before proceeding >and couldn)B’t have been going more than 10 mph. The bike was fine to ride >home >and commute on yesterday. Jay has safety wired my farings together giving >my >bike that )B“Frankenbike” look and is looking for some replacements on Ebay. >I >have had my VFR for at least five years now. Other than parking lot >tip-overs >that was the first time it has gone down. > >One bruise on my calf, one spot on my hand that is a little sore. My wrist >felt like it had been bent back a little too far but is no longer bothering >me >and my neck was a little sore yesterday. > >Lisa Goddard >'95 VFR >'97 GSXR 600, track only > > >------------------------------------------------------ >This message was sent using BOO.net's Webmail. >http://www.boo.net/ > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 10:53:38 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:53:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Re: [dc-cycles] Filtering is dangerous! To: adamme1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX odd. your stereotype sounds like mike b.s recount -tg --- adamme1@XXXXXX wrote: > Damn Lisa. Glad to hear you're alright. > > On a different note, did anyone else notice, that unlike > a male's perspective of the drop, Lisa didn't mention > anything about her ego being bruised as well? > > Guess that's the male/female perspective. A guy would, > and I know I'm being stereotypical, of tried to pick the bike up first, comment about how embarrassed they are, then as a LAST resort, look for help. > > -aki > > > > > From: lisagoddard@XXXXXX > > Date: 2005/04/20 Wed AM 08:28:20 EDT > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: [dc-cycles] Filtering is dangerous! > > > > > > Monday evening I am sitting at the light on 28 West, as it crosses over I-270, > > nearly done with my evening commute. There)B’s a BMW bike two cars ahead of me > > at the light. I decide to scoot over to the right and head up to his spot in > > traffic to say )B“Hi”. I made it about 5 feet and both wheels hit some mud on > > the side of the road. Next thing I know both the bike and I are sliding > > downhill and in to the bumper of a Volvo wagon. I get up quickly knowing I > > need to catch the BMW rider before the light turns green to help me pick my > > bike back up. I tap him on the shoulder, he immediately parks his bike and > > helps me pick the VFR up. > > > > We stand there comparing crashes along with our matching )B‘Stitch suits and > > Alpinestar boots. He had crashed three weeks ago as a car made a left turn in > > front of him. I explain that my original intention was not a traffic evading > > maneuver, but a social one. > > > > My VFR doesn)B’t look to bad, I had been at a complete stop before proceeding > > and couldn)B’t have been going more than 10 mph. The bike was fine to ride home > > and commute on yesterday. Jay has safety wired my farings together giving my > > bike that )B“Frankenbike” look and is looking for some replacements on Ebay. I > > have had my VFR for at least five years now. Other than parking lot tip-overs > > that was the first time it has gone down. > > > > One bruise on my calf, one spot on my hand that is a little sore. My wrist > > felt like it had been bent back a little too far but is no longer bothering me > > and my neck was a little sore yesterday. > > > > Lisa Goddard > > '95 VFR > > '97 GSXR 600, track only > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > This message was sent using BOO.net's Webmail. > > http://www.boo.net/ > > > > > Tom Gimer - 301 675-3980 (cell) - http://www.murphygimer.com - http://www.mgtitlellc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 10:54:42 2005 From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Filtering is dangerous! Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:54:33 -0400 Aki, I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at. If I can pick up my own bike, why would I ask for help? If I can't pick it up, I would certainly welcome (and even ask for) help to get it upright. Perry >From: >To: >Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Filtering is dangerous! >Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:23:47 -0400 > >Damn Lisa. Glad to hear you're alright. > >On a different note, did anyone else notice, that unlike >a male's perspective of the drop, Lisa didn't mention >anything about her ego being bruised as well? > >Guess that's the male/female perspective. A guy would, >and I know I'm being stereotypical, of tried to pick the bike up first, >comment about how embarrassed they are, then as a LAST resort, look for >help. > >-aki > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 10:55:51 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 07:55:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: RE: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville Harley-Davidson To: omni@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX .... and you to produce a flustered, feeble comeback -tg --- omni@XXXXXX wrote: > And you to make a pointless comment about it...fuckwitt. > > -- Mike B. > > At 06:17 PM 4/19/05 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: > >you can always count on mike b. to come running to the > >defense of battleys. > Tom Gimer - 301 675-3980 (cell) - http://www.murphygimer.com - http://www.mgtitlellc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 11:02:07 2005 From: To: Subject: Re: Re: [dc-cycles] Filtering is dangerous! Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:02:00 -0400 > > From: "Perry Coleman" > Date: 2005/04/20 Wed AM 10:54:33 EDT > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Filtering is dangerous! > > Aki, > > I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at. If I can pick up my own > bike, why would I ask for help? If I can't pick it up, I would certainly > welcome (and even ask for) help to get it upright. > > Perry > don't get me wrong..I'm merely saying that, in my observation, guys tend to focus on their ego over the actual mishap when they post of such an incident. Then again, it's probably just the lousy crowd I hang with. ;-) -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 11:37:31 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:38:16 -0400 To: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: RE: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville Harley-Davidson What's flustered or feeble about pointing out that once again you've posted a message containing nothing whatsoever of worth? Do ever post anything other than personal attacks and referrals to your lawyer pals? You know, something anyone else might give a damn about? You are really pathetic. -- Mike B. At 07:55 AM 4/20/05 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: >.... and you to produce a flustered, feeble comeback -tg > >--- omni@XXXXXX wrote: >> And you to make a pointless comment about it...fuckwitt. >> >> -- Mike B. >> >> At 06:17 PM 4/19/05 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: >> >you can always count on mike b. to come running to the >> >defense of battleys. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 12:01:03 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:00:31 -0400 From: scooterfzr@XXXXXX X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville Harley-Davidson To: omni@XXXXXX, t_gimer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX And do you BOTH need to keep including the ENTIRE list in this little pissing contest? Both of you go sit in the corner in Time Out while the rest of us go for a ride on this beautiful day. And, you're both grounded for a week. lol Scooter -----Original Message----- From: Mike B. To: Tom Gimer ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville Harley-Davidson What's flustered or feeble about pointing out that once again you've posted a message containing nothing whatsoever of worth? Do ever post anything other than personal attacks and referrals to your lawyer pals? You know, something anyone else might give a damn about? You are really pathetic. -- Mike B. At 07:55 AM 4/20/05 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: >.... and you to produce a flustered, feeble comeback -tg > >--- omni@XXXXXX wrote: >> And you to make a pointless comment about it...fuckwitt. >> >> -- Mike B. >> >> At 06:17 PM 4/19/05 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: >> >you can always count on mike b. to come running to the >> >defense of battleys. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 12:32:01 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:31:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Carl Custer To: bmckeithen@XXXXXX, DCCycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Tire source McKeithen baited me with, "where are we getting cheap tires now that Discount Motorcycle Tires seems to be history. I need some oddball size Metzler's" Here's my "cheap tire sources" Just posted on SabMag: < http://www.americanmototire.com/> ** * ordered two sets of tires from them recently; <> saved $1.50 over SWMT and could order by phone. So far, I'm happy. Older recommendations: http://www.tireexpress.com. Ordered a 170/60zr17 at 3:00 PM on Tuesday. It arrived today. Total price $110.95 ($101.95 plus $9.00 shipping/handling). This is a pretty good price, better than all 4 of these places Jack Hunt posted: http://www.discountmotorcycletire.com $109 plus $14 shipping http://www.chaparral_racing.com $133.99 plus shipping ??? (Their magazine prices are way cheaper than the catalog or web prices) http://www.cycledepot.net $106.74 plus actual shipping ??? http://www.parts411.com $128.38 plus actual shipping ??? And everybody's favorite (not) MAW (Motorcycle Accessory Whorehouse) http://www.accwhse.com $106.95 plus shipping (and they won't have it in stock, but tell you it is. Expect 3 days to 3 weeks for delivery. And from tire express's sister company http://www.compacc.com $107.05 plus shipping. Y sed: Just go to www.swmototires.com I have had nothing but good deals, service, and fast shipping from them. I ordered more than a dozen tires last season alone from them. Another good place is Kim Leong at www.Casporttouring.com. Not much of a web page but if you call him, his prices are a couple bucks cheaper than SW and he carries disco's on stuff like Givi. Z offered: Ron Ayers is killing them on price, in fact he's the best I've found. AA echoed: Just to chime in here....the $8.00 shipping per tire still doesn't overwelm the large difference in price...with the shipping ron ayers is still almost $23 cheaper for a set of tires. I don't know about other people but $23 is significant enough to make me choose Ron Ayers. YMMV http://www.ronayers.com/tires/tires.cfm?man=mez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 12:35:53 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:35:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: RE: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville Harley-Davidson To: "Mike B." , dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- "Mike B." wrote: > What's flustered or feeble about pointing out that once > again you've posted > a message containing nothing whatsoever of worth? Do > ever post anything > other than personal attacks and referrals to your lawyer > pals? You know, > something anyone else might give a damn about? > > You are really pathetic. notice that you are basically the only one here who i attack. think about it. that's it gang, no more referrals. they bother the big loud guy. > -- Mike B. > > At 07:55 AM 4/20/05 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: > >.... and you to produce a flustered, feeble comeback -tg > > > >--- omni@XXXXXX wrote: > >> And you to make a pointless comment about > it...fuckwitt. > >> > >> -- Mike B. > >> > >> At 06:17 PM 4/19/05 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: > >> >you can always count on mike b. to come running to > the > >> >defense of battleys. > > Tom Gimer - 301 675-3980 (cell) - http://www.murphygimer.com - http://www.mgtitlellc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 12:49:49 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:50:49 -0400 To: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: RE: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville Harley-Davidson At 09:35 AM 4/20/05 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: >notice that you are basically the only one here who i >attack. think about it. It's very simple: the others that you've gone after have left...along with others who just didn't like the atmosphere that such behavior creates here. I stick around despite what you do...though I do sometimes question why I bother. Most of the interesting posters have left, with a few exceptions (you aren't one of them, in case your ego was suggesting that to you) and the exceptions don't post much anymore. I wonder if it's because they are afraid that if they say anything much they'll get jumped on by the list jerks? -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 13:10:47 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:10:23 -0400 From: "De Boeser, Tom" To: DC-CYCLES Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] 20th Anniversary Open House at Rockville Harley-Davidson Mike B. wrote: >It's very simple: the others that you've gone after have left...along with >others who just didn't like the atmosphere that such behavior creates here. > > > I stick around despite what you do...though I do sometimes question why I >bother. Most of the interesting posters have left, with a few exceptions >(you aren't one of them, in case your ego was suggesting that to you) and >the exceptions don't post much anymore. I wonder if it's because they are >afraid that if they say anything much they'll get jumped on by the list >jerks? > > > What?!? How long have you been on the list? I know Tom G. has been on longer. I like Tom G., he's funny. You respond to almost anything like a wounded, and caged animal. The language you use shows your intelligence. Bike content: Do like the others on the list - get out and ride today. It's beautiful. I'm headed out now! Tom de '03 St1300 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 13:17:24 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:17:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Tire source To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX That first place you mention (American) although good prices has high shipping rates. I put in two Pirelli Diablo's (which were priced cheaper then Ron Ayers) but shipping was $12.50 a tire. Ron Ayers, albeit limited on selection ships for $6 a tire. Glenn --- Carl Custer wrote: > McKeithen baited me with, "where are we getting > cheap > tires now that Discount Motorcycle Tires seems to be > history. I need some oddball size Metzler's" > > Here's my "cheap tire sources" > Just posted on SabMag: > < http://www.americanmototire.com/> > ** * ordered two sets of tires from them recently; > <> > saved $1.50 over SWMT and could order by phone. So > far, I'm happy. > > Older recommendations: > > http://www.tireexpress.com. > Ordered a 170/60zr17 at 3:00 PM on Tuesday. It > arrived today. Total price $110.95 ($101.95 plus > $9.00 shipping/handling). This is a pretty good > price, better than all 4 of these places Jack Hunt > posted: > > http://www.discountmotorcycletire.com $109 plus > $14 > shipping > > http://www.chaparral_racing.com $133.99 plus > shipping ??? (Their magazine prices are way cheaper > than the catalog or web prices) > > http://www.cycledepot.net $106.74 plus actual > shipping ??? > > http://www.parts411.com $128.38 plus actual > shipping > ??? > > And everybody's favorite (not) MAW (Motorcycle > Accessory Whorehouse) > http://www.accwhse.com $106.95 plus shipping (and > they won't have it in stock, but tell you it is. > Expect 3 days to 3 weeks for delivery. > > And from tire express's sister company > http://www.compacc.com $107.05 plus shipping. > > Y sed: Just go to www.swmototires.com > I have had nothing but good deals, service, and fast > shipping from them. I ordered more than a dozen > tires > last season alone from them. > > Another good place is Kim Leong at > www.Casporttouring.com. Not much of a web page but > if > you call him, his prices are a couple bucks cheaper > than SW and he carries disco's on stuff like Givi. > > Z offered: Ron Ayers is killing them on price, in > fact > he's the best I've found. > > > AA echoed: > Just to chime in here....the $8.00 shipping per tire > still doesn't overwelm the large difference in > price...with the shipping ron ayers is still almost > $23 cheaper for a set of tires. I don't know about > other people but $23 is significant enough to make > me > choose Ron Ayers. YMMV > http://www.ronayers.com/tires/tires.cfm?man=mez > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 15:50:19 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:50:12 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] WERA / Summit Point Went to see the races Saturday at Summit point. Snapped a few pictures while I was there as well. If your interested here is the link: http://www.cobaltss.org/gallery/smptapr2005 Quite a few 600 CC novices, I think they had 5 waves. The 600 CC experts had a great race too. Got a wicked sun burn on my face from sitting out in the sun all day, since it was still a bit chilly I didn't notice until it was too late :) -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 20:50:51 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:50:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman To: DCCycles Subject: [dc-cycles] I need a couple of wrecked GIVI bags. My used V-Strom came with a GIVI top box. I'm not a GIVI guy, but my daughter likes it and I've got a couple of other boxes that I'd like to carry around. Looking at the GIVI website, they have lots of plates to mount their bags in lots of places, but they don't seem to have anything to mount something else to the bike. So. . . it occurs to me that if someone has a GIVI box that was wrecked badly enough to remove the lid and bust up the rest of it, I could cut the bottom (or side if it was used as a pannier) out of it and bolt it to my other boxes. So what do you have for $30 or so plus shipping? Leon Begeman '03 DL1000 Suzuki V-Strom From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Apr 20 22:25:14 2005 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:25:04 -0400 To: dc-cycles From: Aki Damme Subject: [dc-cycles] seen in dc.forsale fyi...don't know if anyone is interested but if you want to do your own machining for your bike: ********************************************************************************************* I am selling my machine shop. 2 Lathes 1 Horizontal Mill 1 Vertical Mill 1 Drill Press 1 Buffer 1 Valve Grinding Machine 1 Large Arbor Press 1 Metal Band Saw 1 Rotary Index Table Lots of tooling These are not bench top toys. You will not be disappointed. Getting rid of everything. Need the space. You won't believe the price. Call Jim @ 434-295-7896 for details. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Apr 21 14:11:52 2005 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 14:11:45 -0400 From: lisagoddard@XXXXXX To: julian@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] lost wallet and heads screwed on straight Keep hope up on the wallet. I lost mine at the Exxon at Key Bridge on a Friday night once. I cancelled all of the cards over the weekend and was working on a replacement drivers license. I went to work on Monday to discover a voice mail on my office phone saying they had found my wallet. They returned it completely intact with the $20 still in it! Also, I found a purse at Costco once. After some minor sluething I called the owner. She came to my house to pick it up and asked me if I wanted a reward. I replied that I did not want any reward except that she always look out for motorcyclists on the road and to be polite to them! Lisa Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Head screwed on straight Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:24:04 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: "Dave Yates" , I am usually fairly sensitive to where things are when I ride. On my trip to Montreal, somewhere in upstate NY my backpack top po